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  DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND 
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                                HEARINGS

                                BEFORE A

                          SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

            COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                           H.R. 9029/S. 4942

 AN ACT MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND 
HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 
           ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

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                    PATTY MURRAY, Washington, Chair
RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois          SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine, Vice 
JACK REED, Rhode Island                  Chair
JON TESTER, Montana                  MITCH McCONNELL, Kentucky
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire        LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 LINDSEY GRAHAM, South Carolina
CHRISTOPHER A. COONS, Delaware       JERRY MORAN, Kansas
BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii                 JOHN HOEVEN, North Dakota
TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin             JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
CHRISTOPHER MURPHY, Connecticut      SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West 
JOE MANCHIN, III, West Virginia          Virginia
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland           JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico          CINDY HYDE-SMITH, Mississippi
GARY PETERS, Michigan                BILL HAGERTY, Tennessee
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              KATIE BRITT, Alabama
                                     MARCO RUBIO, Florida
                                     DEB FISCHER, Nebraska

                      Evan Schatz, Staff Director
              Elizabeth McDonnell, Minority Staff Director
                                 
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 Subcommittee on Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and 
                    Education, and Related Agencies

                  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin Chairwoman
PATTY MURRAY, Washington             SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West 
RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois              Virginia, Ranking
JACK REED, Rhode Island              LINDSEY GRAHAM, South Carolina
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire        JERRY MORAN, Kansas
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii                 CINDY HYDE-SMITH, Mississippi
CHRISTOPHER MURPHY, Connecticut      JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
JOE MANCHIN, III, West Virginia      KATIE BRITT, Alabama
                                     MARCO RUBIO, Florida

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                               Erin Dugan
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                              Meghan Mott
                           Kathryn Toomajian
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                        Ashley Palmer (Minority)
                        Tom Pfeiffer (Minority)
                       Emily Slack (Minority)

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                                HEARINGS
                        Tuesday, April 16, 2024

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                              BACK MATTER

List of Witnesses, Communications, and Prepared Statements.......   383

Subject Index....................................................   385

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        National Institutes of Health............................   385
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  DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND 
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                        TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met at 10:02 a.m., in room SD-138, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Tammy Baldwin (chair) presiding.
    Present: Senators Baldwin, Murray, Shaheen, Manchin, 
Capito, Kennedy, Hyde-Smith, and Britt.

                DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

                        Office of the Secretary

STATEMENT OF HON. XAVIER BECERRA, SECRETARY


               opening statement of senator tammy baldwin


    Senator Baldwin. The Appropriation Subcommittee on Labor, 
Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies will 
come to order.
    And I will start by recognizing myself for an opening 
statement, followed by my Ranking Member, Senator Capito.
    Good morning. I want to welcome everyone to the Senate 
Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human 
Services, Education, and Related Agencies' first hearing on the 
Biden administration's fiscal year 2025 budget request.
    We completed our work on fiscal year 2024 Appropriations 
less than 4 weeks ago. The final fiscal year 2024 
Appropriations bill was very much a compromise, but I was proud 
of that bill and the bipartisan work that went into it.
    At the same time, Mr. Secretary, you received your fiscal 
year 2024 appropriations more than halfway through the fiscal 
year. That makes your job harder and it is also a disservice to 
Wisconsinites, West Virginians, and communities all across the 
country that rely on funding and programs the Department of 
Health and Human Services administers.
    We have to do better. And to be clear, last year the Senate 
did its job under the leadership of Chair Murray and Vice Chair 
Collins. We reported overwhelmingly, bipartisan bills out of 
committee last summer.
    I look forward to continuing to work hand-in-hand with my 
Ranking Member, Senator Capito, again this year. We just need 
cooperation from our colleagues on the other side of the 
Capitol, and a key part of that is agreeing to adequate top 
lines that allow us to address important and bipartisan 
priorities.
    Kicking off our fiscal year 2025 process today, I am happy 
to welcome Secretary Becerra for our hearing on the 
administration's fiscal year 2025 budget request for the 
Department of Health and Human Services.
    Secretary Becerra, this budget highlights the need for 
continued investments among a wide range of bipartisan 
priorities that speak to the breadth of activities you oversee 
as the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Working within 
the budget constraints of the Fiscal Responsibility Act, I am 
pleased to see that this year's budget request meets families' 
most pressing needs, like lowering the costs of healthcare, 
tackling the fentanyl and opioid crisis, expanding access to 
affordable child care, and helping connect people with the 
mental healthcare that they need.
    This budget request includes increased funding to address 
our abysmal maternal health and mortality outcomes, including 
expanding the Maternal Health Workforce and improving access to 
care in rural and underserved communities.
    This is Black Maternal Health Week, which should be a 
glaring reminder that every pregnancy-related death is tragic, 
and Black women are three times more likely to die from 
pregnancy-related causes than White women. This budget will 
help improve maternal and child health outcomes, including 
addressing racial disparities.
    This budget recognizes the need for continued investments 
in child care and early learning programs. Sustained annual 
increases like the $1 billion increase for child care and Head 
Start in the fiscal year 2024 Labor, HHS bill are critical. But 
more needs to be done. In Wisconsin, some families are now 
spending more than 35 percent of their income on child care, 
running a family with two young children more than $25,000 per 
year. That is more than college tuition for many families.
    The steep cost not only impacts families, but also 
businesses, and our economy that feel the ripple effect when 
parents can't find child care. This request ensures that we are 
better prepared for and able to rapidly respond to emerging 
biological threats, including supporting the domestic 
manufacturing of medical countermeasures, and other critical 
resources in the public health supply chain.
    It also strengthens our core public health infrastructure, 
workforce, and data modernization programs nationwide to 
improve readiness for the next public health crisis.
    I am pleased to see the support for biomedical research and 
innovation to develop better diagnostics, improve treatments, 
and precision care for patients, including targeted investments 
for research on women's health, and in support of the goal to 
cut the cancer death rate by at least 50 over the next 25 
years.
    I am also happy to see investments to improve access to 
reproductive healthcare, including expanding the Title X Family 
Planning Program, which helps so many patients, particularly 
women of color, get birth control, cancer screenings, STD 
screenings, and other essential healthcare.
    I believe that we need to do more in these areas to truly 
meet the need. But Mr. Secretary, I appreciate this budget 
request prioritizing funding under the tight budget 
constraints. And look forward to working with you on them.
    To that end, Mr. Secretary, I want to hear more about how 
HHS (Health and Human Services) is working within its agency to 
address our Nation's mental health and substance use disorder 
crises. Tragically, overdose deaths remain stubbornly high, and 
continue to break records year after year. In 2022, nearly 
108,000 Americans died of an overdose. In my State of 
Wisconsin, there were 18,828 drug overdose deaths in 2022, 
surpassing the record set in 2021.
    Of these deaths, 1,464 involved opioids. I know my 
colleagues are seeing similar grim statistics in their States. 
Of particular interest, I will want to know how the 
administration is specifically addressing poisonings due to 
fentanyl. This drug is wreaking havoc across the country and we 
must partner to take an all-of-government approach to prevent 
it from coming into our communities, reduce use and misuse, and 
make accessible treatment programs and overdose reversal 
medications available.
    Finally, Mr. Secretary, women's health and reproductive 
rights are under attack in this country. Draconian laws are 
being put in place that deny Americans their rights to control 
their bodies, their families, and their futures, and that put 
women's health and well-being at risk. Just last week, we saw 
Arizona reinstate an 1800s-era abortion ban not dissimilar to 
my home State of Wisconsin's 1849 era criminal abortion ban 
that had devastating consequences.
    Everyone deserves the freedom to make their own healthcare 
decisions without interference from politicians and judges. I 
want to hear more about what HHS is doing to protect women's 
health and ensure women can access the reproductive healthcare 
that they need.
    I look forward to your testimony and appreciate your being 
here today.
    In a moment, I will turn it over to Ranking Member Capito 
for her opening remarks. Following Senator Capito's opening 
statement, we will hear from you, Secretary Becerra, and after 
that, Senators will each have 5 minutes for their rounds of 
questions.
    Senator Capito.


                statement of senator shelly moore capito


    Senator Capito. Thank you, Chair Baldwin. Thank you, 
Secretary Becerra, for coming, and thank you for sharing our 
thoughts a bit, yesterday, over the phone; I appreciate that.
    As Chair Baldwin noted, last year the Senate Appropriations 
Committee marked up all 12 bills for the first time in 5 years. 
I hope we can do it again, and this budget hearing is necessary 
to be a first step in that process. And so I look forward to 
hearing more about HHS budget proposals and the priorities for 
fiscal year 2025.
    I want to thank Chair Baldwin for working together, 
bipartisan, and the success of our process depends on finding 
common ground, as we did for fiscal year 2024, albeit 6 months 
late, we finally reached that.
    This budget proposes more realistic funding levels in some 
areas to align with that Bipartisan Fiscal Responsibility Act, 
and I commend you for that. However, unfortunately, the budget 
also continues proposals for new partisan mandatory programs 
that would spend too much money that we--in this day and age, 
we just do not have.
    Instead of focusing on our common goals to improve the 
health of Americans, the budget yet wades into polarizing 
issues, such as repealing the Hyde Amendment, increasing 
funding for Title X family planning, and gun violence research, 
and funding new climate change initiatives. These are all sort 
of recycled budget policies that the Congress has rejected over 
the last 3 years.
    Also, I want to note my disappointment, this is a personal 
thing for me, that the budget did not prioritize any new 
resources, specifically for Alzheimer's research. I acknowledge 
we are facing a very difficult spending climate, and we hope we 
can focus on bipartisan areas of need, including a continued 
focus on biomedical research, supporting rural healthcare, 
growing our health workforce, a huge problem across the 
country, and continuing to combat the devastating effects of 
substance abuse, as Chair Baldwin noted.
    I was pleased to see a focus on biomedical research related 
to the Cancer Moonshot across HHS agencies, including NIH 
(National Institutes of Health) and CDC (Centers for Disease 
Control and Prevention). West Virginia, my home State, 
continues to rank above the national average in both new cancer 
diagnosis and deaths.
    Substance abuse challenges also continue to be a real 
problem facing the country, but particularly my State. We have 
some of the highest statistics here.
    Concerning to me too is a proposed $10 million for new 
discretionary group program for funding harm reduction grants. 
This is the Partisan American Rescue Plan Program that, 
famously, attempted to fund crack pipes with taxpayer dollars, 
as my colleagues may recall, in the name of harm reduction. You 
did walk away from that ill-conceived policy, you walked it 
back, and I continue to have some serious concerns. And I would 
encourage a greater focus on primary prevention.
    Secretary Becerra, this is your fourth budget hearing 
before the subcommittee, so it should not be a surprise to you 
that rural healthcare is a priority for this body. I was a bit 
disappointed that the budget lacked new resources for rural 
health programs. In fact, it is $12 million below the recently 
enacted funding level.
    CDC data shows that rural Americans are more likely to 
suffer from higher rates of diabetes, are more likely to die 
from cancer, heart disease, and stroke, than urban Americans. 
This is, unfortunately, true in my home State, which also leads 
the nation in rates of diabetes and heart disease. Improving 
rural health outcomes goes hand-in-hand with investing in the 
healthcare workforce.
    Your budget proposes timely investments, $63 million above 
fiscal year 2024, across behavioral health, nursing, and other 
health professional workforce training. So thank you for that. 
The mental health and behavioral health crisis highlights the 
importance of trained professionals in every healthcare sector 
working to meet the physical and mental health needs of 
Americans.
    Workforce shortages and rural health challenges should push 
all of us to think differently about how and where care is 
delivered. Telehealth should be a part of the equation, we 
learned that during COVID, and we have seen that used quite 
effectively, yet the budget proposes an effective cut of $4 
million to the Office of Advancement of Telehealth.
    The healthcare landscape is complex and ever changing. I 
hope we hear from you today about these challenges and the 
other emerging challenges. Our jobs will be difficult, again, 
for 2025, given the economic realities that face our Nation. 
Just as we did for fiscal year 2024, it is my hope that we will 
come together in a responsible way to find areas of 
efficiencies and focus on the many areas of agreement I have 
just discussed.
    Thank you, Secretary Becerra, for coming. And I look 
forward to your testimony.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Capito.
    Our witness today is Xavier Becerra, the Secretary of the 
Department of Health and Human Services.
    Secretary Becerra, thank you for joining us today. You will 
have 5 minutes for your opening remarks. And you may begin.


                summary statement of hon. xavier becerra


    Secretary Becerra. Chair Baldwin, Ranking Member Capito, 
and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for inviting me to 
testify on the 2025 budget.
    When President Biden took office, I think it is important 
to note, back in January 2021, COVID was ravaging our families, 
and our economy, and thousands of Americans were dying every 
day, thousands of Americans were dying every day. About 4,000 
died the day that President Biden took office. In January 2021 
the number of Americans with health insurance was like our jobs 
and the economy, down and on the canvas. Prescription drug 
prices were skyrocketing, with patients and their pocketbooks 
at the mercy of Big Pharma and its profits.
    We changed that. Today, 3 years later, nearly 700 million 
shots of COVID vaccines have gone into the arms of Americans. 
COVID is still around, but we can now manage it like the flu. 
Today, more than 300 million Americans, a record number, can go 
to the doctor or hospital and not go bankrupt, because they 
have their own health insurance. More than 21 million of those 
Americans count on the Affordable Care Act Marketplace for 
their insurance. That is another record.
    Today, while Big Pharma is still big, the President's New 
Prescription Drug Law has brought down the price of insulin to 
$35 per month for Americans on Medicare. And as we speak, we 
are negotiating with drug companies to lower the price of even 
more prescription drugs, even as they sue us to stop us. The 
President's budget doubles down on the investments that made 
the comeback of our jobs, our economy, and our health possible. 
It doesn't just protect Medicare; this budget strengthens it 
beyond Medicare's life, and beyond our lifetime.
    This budget lays out a vision for a nation that invests in 
its most vulnerable, it fosters innovation, and protects every 
American's access to the care that she needs. Perhaps most 
importantly, it continues our shift from a health system that 
treats illness to one that sustains wellness.
    All told, the fiscal year 2025 budget proposes more than 
$130 billion in discretionary, and about $1.7 trillion in 
mandatory funding to advance our mission and invest in key 
priorities.
    Let me share a few of those highlights. The budget provides 
Medicaid-like coverage to low-income individuals in the outlier 
States that have not expanded Medicaid under the Affordable 
Care Act. When that happens, another 1.5 million of our fellow 
Americans will have healthcare coverage and the peace of mind 
that comes with it.
    This budget builds on the largest investment in behavioral 
health in a generation. It bolsters a 988 Suicide and Crisis 
Lifeline. It gives young people support at home and at school. 
The President's investments in Behavioral Health Workforce 
would add 12,000 new psychiatrists, psychologists, clinical 
social workers, marriage and family therapists, counselors, and 
peer support specialists, at a time when their services are 
desperately needed. Across HHS, the budget tackles the maternal 
health crisis by improving access to pre- and post-natal care, 
supporting emergency care services, and expanding maternal care 
in rural and underserved communities. We are also making child 
care more affordable for working families and more available 
where families live and work.
    This budget would provide increased wages for early 
childhood education workers. It would fund more than 750,000 
slots for children in Head Start, and it provides universal 
preschool for our Nation's four million 4-year-old children, 
and eventually would include our 3-year-olds as well.
    Our budget grows and strengthens our cybersecurity 
initiatives to ensure patient safety and privacy, and to keep 
our hospitals and providers, especially smaller ones, and those 
in rural communities, running and secure.
    Finally, this administration has made tremendous strides in 
preparedness capabilities since the pandemic, and we keep 
building. This budget invests in countermeasures to combat 
antimicrobial-resistant drugs. It expands our monitoring of 
supply chains, and it integrates 200 data sources across 
Federal, State, and local governments to improve information 
sharing.
    We can't reduce the health and well-being of Americans to 
align on a budget spreadsheet, but we can transform the numbers 
on the balance sheet into real investments and services that 
sustain health and promote wellness for all Americans.
    With that, I thank you for this opportunity. And I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The statement follows:]
                  Prepared Statement of Xavier Becerra
    Chair Baldwin, Ranking Member Capito, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to discuss the 
President's Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget for the Department of Health 
and Human Services (HHS). I am pleased to appear before you today, and 
I look forward to continuing to work with you to serve the American 
people.
    When President Biden took office, the number of Americans with 
health insurance was declining. We changed that. Over 300 million 
Americans now have health insurance--the most under any other 
Administration.
    Until now, Americans paying far too much for prescription drugs 
haven't had any relief. We changed that. The Inflation Reduction Act, 
signed into law by President Biden in 2022, caps the price of insulin 
at $35 per month per insulin prescription for people with Medicare, and 
certain important vaccines, like the Shingles vaccine, are available 
for free. And now, for the first time, HHS is negotiating directly with 
drug companies to lower prescription drug costs for people with 
Medicare, and we're working to make healthcare markets more competitive 
across the board.
    The Biden-Harris Administration has taken decisive action to 
protect access to reproductive healthcare, including abortion and 
contraception care. We are also fighting tooth and nail to stop the 
dismantling of the remaining rights and freedoms available to women 
across the country.
    In 3 years, the Biden-Harris Administration has made the largest 
investment in behavioral health, which includes both substance use and 
mental health, in a generation. We are on the path to increasing the 
number of mental health counselors in schools, have improved support 
services for high-risk and underserved populations, and trained 
healthcare providers, families and school personnel on best practices 
for supporting young people with behavioral health needs, including 
those taking medications to treat opioid use disorder.
    There are many, many more accomplishments that I could highlight--
but, there is more work to be done. It is critical that we look forward 
to the challenges that lie ahead and take the actions that will ensure 
that we can continue to improve the health and wellbeing of all 
Americans.
    This budget lays out a vision for a nation that fosters innovation, 
invests in health, and supports its most vulnerable.
    HHS remains at the center of some of the most important issues for 
American families--including expanding access to care and lowering 
healthcare costs; protecting and strengthening Medicare, Medicaid, and 
the Marketplace; helping ensure access to reproductive healthcare; 
improving maternal healthcare; transforming the way we deliver 
behavioral healthcare, particularly for substance use disorders; 
improving care for older adults and people with disabilities; preparing 
for future public health threats; ending cancer as we know it; and 
ensuring access to high-quality education and support for children.
    We also must continue to advance cutting-edge research, and meet 
the health needs of Tribal Nations and Native communities. And none of 
this would be possible without the resources to support our operations.
    All told, the FY 2025 budget proposes $130.7 billion in 
discretionary and $1.7 trillion dollars in mandatory funding to advance 
our mission and invest in key priorities that will impact the lives of 
all Americans. We remain steadfast in our commitment to be good 
stewards of taxpayer dollars, and to continually improving the 
experience of the people whom our programs serve.
           expanding coverage and lowering health care costs
    Once again, a record-breaking number of Americans enrolled in the 
Health Insurance Marketplace in 2024--over 21.3 million people. That 
means more Americans are getting the healthcare coverage they need at 
an affordable cost. This is a testament to the success of the 
Affordable Care Act.
    The FY 2025 budget continues to build on this success by making 
permanent the expanded premium tax credits that the Inflation Reduction 
Act extended and providing Medicaid-like coverage to low-income 
individuals in states that have not expanded Medicaid under the 
Affordable Care Act, along with financial incentives to ensure states 
maintain their existing expansions. For Medicaid and CHIP, the Budget 
allows states to extend the existing 12-month continuous eligibility 
for all children to 36 months, and allows states to provide continuous 
eligibility for children from birth until they turn age 6. Further, the 
budget prohibits enrollment fees and premiums in CHIP. It extends 
consumer surprise billing protections to ground ambulances, building on 
the No Surprises Act. The budget also advances the steps taken in the 
Inflation Reduction Act to improve access to affordable prescription 
drugs by further expanding
    Medicare's ability to negotiate prices directly with drug 
manufacturers, and expanding inflation rebates and the $2,000 out-of-
pocket prescription drug cost cap beyond Medicare and into the 
commercial market.
    Fundamental to our vision of affordable, accessible healthcare is 
ensuring Americans can rely on Medicare for generations to come. The FY 
2025 budget proposes changes that indefinitely extends the solvency of 
the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.
    In addition, the budget continues on the path to doubling Health 
Center Program funding, which provides healthcare services to millions 
of Americans, particularly those in underserved communities. The budget 
provides $8.2 billion for Health Centers in 2025, allowing the program 
to serve approximately 3.9 million additional patients. This investment 
also supports the expansion of behavioral health services at Health 
Centers.
                     transforming behavioral health
    The FY 2025 budget proposes over $20.8 billion in investments to 
improve behavioral health across the Department. This includes $602 
million, an additional $82 million, to the 988 Suicide and Crisis 
Lifeline for an expanded awareness campaign and increased technical 
assistance support and infrastructure. This investment in 988 also 
maintains specialized services for LGBTQI+ youth, Spanish speakers, and 
the Deaf and Hard of Hearing Community.
    The budget seeks to expand access to high-quality mental 
healthcare, including through a $1 billion investment in the Community 
Mental Health Services Block Grant. The budget also improves behavioral 
health benefits for people with Medicare and Medicaid and in the 
private insurance market, with an emphasis on improving access, 
promoting equity, and fostering innovation. In addition, the budget 
invests $1 billion in health information technology adoption for 
inpatient psychiatric facilities, as well as certain outpatient and 
residential behavioral health facilities. If we are serious about 
integrating behavioral health providers into the rest of the healthcare 
system, we must close the technology gap and advance better information 
exchange with other healthcare, public health, and community partners.
    The budget also addresses the sobering impact of the behavioral 
health crisis on our nation's youth. National surveys of youth have 
shown significant increases in certain mental health symptoms, 
including depressive symptoms and suicidal ideation, compounded by the 
effects of the COVID-19 pandemic. The surveys underscore the urgency 
and importance of our commitment to equip our youth with the tools they 
desperately need to address these unique challenges. The budget expands 
mental health services in schools and bolsters youth mental health 
programs by investing an additional $50 million in Project AWARE 
(Advancing Wellness and Resiliency in Education) and an additional $50 
million in Children's Mental Health Services. These programs provide 
services to states, tribes, and communities to support children with 
serious emotional challenges and their families. The budget also 
includes $30 million for the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention's (CDC) Essentials for Childhood: Preventing Adverse 
Childhood Experiences (ACEs) through Data to Action Program, which will 
increase the number of states, territories, localities, and tribes 
implementing ACEs prevention strategies and approaches in their 
communities.
    In addition, the budget increases funding to states for overdose 
prevention and substance use disorders treatment. In January 2021, the 
overdose death rate was increasing 31% year-over-year. Today, the rate 
of increase has dropped to about 2% year-over-year. We're making great 
progress, but in the face of an increasingly dangerous drug supply, we 
need to do more. The budget provides an additional $20 million for the 
State Opioid Response program, which has provided treatment services to 
over 1.2 million people and has helped states to reverse more than 
500,000 overdoses. It also includes a $5 million increase for the 
Tribal Opioid Response program to address the disproportionate impact 
of the overdose crisis on American Indian and Alaska Native people.
    The FY 2025 budget also continues to invest in growing and 
diversifying the behavioral health workforce. The budget includes $254 
million for the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) for 
Behavioral Health Workforce Development Programs, including expanding 
the substance use disorder provider workforce. The budget also 
continues to expand key HRSA programs by providing $916 million for the 
National Health Service Corps and $320 million for Teaching Health 
Centers Graduate Medical Education programs in 2025 to ensure the 
continued growth of healthcare services and expand workforce capacity 
across the country, including for behavioral health. The budget also 
includes $20 million for the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services 
Administration's (SAMHSA's) Minority Fellowship Programs to reduce 
health disparities and improve behavioral healthcare outcomes for 
underserved populations.
    improving the well-being of children, families, and older adults
    The FY 2025 budget invests in the future of our nation's children 
through high-quality early childhood education. The budget proposes to 
guarantee affordable child care to low- and middle-income working 
families from birth until kindergarten and offer preschool to all four-
year-olds, making early care and education programs affordable and 
available where families live and work, and increasing wages for early 
childhood education workers. Under this proposal, preschool would be 
free and the average family would pay no more than $10 per day for 
child care until their child starts kindergarten, saving them over $600 
per child, per month. This proposal will go a long way to support our 
most vulnerable children and their families.
    The budget continues to bolster Head Start for children from birth 
to age five and requests a $544 million increase for the Head Start 
workforce, allowing wages to keep pace with inflation and for us to 
maintain a high-quality child care workforce. As child care continues 
to be unaffordable or unavailable for millions of Americans, the budget 
provides funding to Americans that desperately need it to continue to 
work and support their families. It also requests a $500 million 
increase for the Child Care and Development Block Grant to continue our 
progress in stabilizing the child care sector and helping more 
Americans afford child care.
    The budget also invests in child welfare, with a package totaling 
$11.4 billion over 10 years. This funding expands services and supports 
to families at risk of child maltreatment or involvement with the child 
welfare system, increases funding for prevention services and kinship 
placements and supports for older youth, and increases and streamlines 
funding to tribes.
    Finally, we are also investing in supports for older adults and 
people with disabilities to ensure they can participate fully in our 
communities. The FY 2025 budget provides $2.7 billion for 
Administration for Community Living programs--a $84 million increase 
above the 2024 Enacted level. This includes additional funds for 
nutrition programs, as well as funding for suicide prevention for older 
adults.
                enhancing long-term care in all settings
    HHS programs support the health and well-being of people with 
disabilities and older adults. The FY 2025 budget includes a 10-year, 
$150 billion proposal to expand Medicaid home and community-based 
services to allow more older adults and people with disabilities to 
receive care at home and in their communities. Recognizing that a 
strong, well-trained workforce is essential to delivering high-quality 
services, the budget initiative is designed to enhance the quality of 
these jobs. When older adults' support needs become so great that they 
must enter nursing homes, they deserve safe, high-quality long-term 
care. At the 2024 Enacted level, state survey agencies would complete 
just 65% of statutorily required nursing home surveys in FY 2024, down 
from 100% in FY 2022 and 75% in FY 2023. To address the increasing 
workloads and align with the Administration's commitments to improve 
the safety and quality of nursing home care, the budget requests an 
increase in funding to allow CMS to conduct 85% of the mandatory 
surveys, as well as legislative proposals that strengthen quality and 
care in long term care facilities for FY 2025. In addition, the 
Administration's proposal to shift survey and certification funding for 
nursing home facilities from discretionary to mandatory and increase 
that funding to conduct 100% of mandatory surveys, effective in FY 
2026, would allow for sustained and reliable oversight and enforcement 
in the nation's nursing homes and ensure that Americans receive high 
quality, safe services within these facilities.
  strengthening maternal health outcomes and reproductive healthcare 
                                 access
    The budget reflects the Administration's commitment to address the 
U.S. maternal mortality rate, which is higher than all other developed 
nations and on the rise. The majority of these deaths are preventable, 
and Black and American Indian and Alaska Native women are 
disproportionately affected. Across HHS, the budget invests in tackling 
this maternal health crisis, including $376 million focused on 
addressing maternal mortality and maternal health equity. This includes 
targeted funding within the Indian Health Service (IHS) to provide 
culturally-relevant maternal healthcare in Indian Country, additional 
funding for CDC to expand maternal mortality prevention, and continued 
support for the Implementing a Maternal Health and Pregnancy Outcomes 
Vision for Everyone (IMPROVE) initiative in the National Institutes of 
Health (NIH). It also includes $215 million in HRSA specifically for 
reducing maternal mortality and morbidity. This funding will improve 
access to pre- and post-natal care, including for behavioral health, 
provide access to emergency care services, expand maternal care in 
rural and underserved communities, and more.
    To help improve maternal health coverage and prioritize person-
centered care, the budget also includes an optional Medicaid benefit 
that expands coverage of maternal health support services across the 
prenatal, labor and delivery, and postpartum periods, with enhanced 
Federal funding available for the first 5 years in which states take up 
the State Medicaid option. This includes coverage for a range of 
maternal health support workers, including doulas. With this benefit, 
we aim to bolster maternal health supports throughout the entire 
continuum of care and to demonstrate our dedication to supporting women 
at every stage of pregnancy and beyond.
    Access to reproductive healthcare, including contraception, is a 
more urgent issue now than it has been in decades. The budget provides 
$390 million, a 36 percent increase, to the Title X family planning 
program to meet the increased need for family planning services, which 
are essential to ensuring women have control over personal decisions 
about their own health, lives, and families. Title X remains the only 
Federal grant program dedicated solely to providing individuals with 
comprehensive family planning services in communities across the United 
States.
               preparing for future public health threats
    While this Administration has made tremendous strides in 
preparedness capabilities since the pandemic, there are many public 
health threats beyond COVID-19. The budget therefore includes over 
$28.9 billion in total resources across the Department to support 
preparedness, including efforts to prevent future pandemics, in 
addition to response capabilities, consistent with the President's plan 
to prepare for and respond to biological threats, as outlined in the 
2022 National Biodefense Strategy and Implementation Plan.
    This includes $8.9 billion in discretionary funding for 
preparedness across the Department. The budget invests an additional 
$55 million for CDC for the Center for Forecasting and Outbreak 
Analytics as well as to manage the Response Ready Enterprise Data 
Integration platform.
    Our nation continues to face emerging public health threats and it 
is important that we are well positioned to adequately respond. The 
budget continues to strengthen our domestic supply chain by investing 
$95 million to accelerate development and domestic production of 
medical countermeasures, and onshore production of active 
pharmaceutical ingredients and essential medicines through the 
Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response. It also 
includes $12 million to support the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 
in addressing medical and food shortages and $10 million for a new 
supply chain coordination office within HHS.
    As a continuation of our work to treat and prevent infectious 
diseases, the budget also includes a new HHS-wide proposal to eliminate 
hepatitis C infections in the United States. This five-year program 
focuses on high-risk populations and will increase access to curative 
medications, and expand implementation of complementary efforts such as 
screening, testing, and provider capacity.
                   advancing health in indian country
    HHS remains committed to addressing the significant health 
disparities faced by Tribal Nations and Native communities, and the 
chronic underinvestment in the Indian Health Service. The budget 
proposes $8.2 billion for IHS, a $1.1 billion increase above the 2024 
Enacted Level. This includes the proposed reauthorization of the 
Special Diabetes Program for Indians. This will maintain direct 
healthcare service levels, address targeted public health issues, and 
advance critical operational efforts like Health Information Technology 
modernization.
    Beginning in FY 2026, the budget proposes full mandatory funding 
for all IHS accounts, and automatically grows funding each year to 
account for factors like inflation and pay. This approach will address 
chronic underinvestment by ensuring funding grows along with IHS's 
needs. The budget also includes a dedicated funding stream for public 
health capacity and infrastructure needs in Indian Country, a key 
lesson learned from the pandemic.
    This budget also addresses healthcare workforce needs across the 
Indian Health Service by providing hiring authorities to improve the 
recruitment and retention of providers in our system. Workforce 
challenges--including significant staffing needs in behavioral health 
fields, such as substance use disorder care--are one of the top 
concerns raised by tribes to HHS. Addressing these challenges is 
critical to providing better-quality healthcare to the people IHS 
serves and to continuing to fight the concurrent substance use and 
suicide crises tribes are currently facing.
    The Department will continue to partner with Tribes and Congress to 
realize mandatory funding, and to ensure we can continue to provide 
advance discretionary appropriations so IHS can maintain critical 
healthcare services if there is a lapse in appropriations.
                  advancing science to improve health
    Cancer impacts Americans of all ages and from all walks of life. 
Decreasing the cancer death rate and the number of loved ones we lose 
to the disease remains a top priority for the Administration. The Biden 
Cancer Moonshot set ambitious goals to cut the cancer death rate by 50 
percent over 25 years, preventing more than 4 million cancer deaths by 
2047, and to improve the experience of people touched by cancer. The FY 
2025 budget invests $2.9 billion across the Department to make that 
possible, including $716 million in discretionary resources at the NIH 
National Cancer Institute to continue their efforts to speed delivery 
of cancer drugs and vaccines and ensure access to current and new 
standards of cancer care. An additional $100 million increase for CDC 
will support cancer prevention activities, including tobacco prevention 
and cessation. The Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health (ARPA-
H) will also support Cancer Moonshot goals by investing in the 
development of unprecedented breakthroughs to prevent, detect, and 
treat cancer.
    Additionally, ARPA-H will maintain its role as a catalyst for 
transformation in the health ecosystem-- including through its 
recently-announced Sprint for Women's Health. With its $1.5 billion 
budget, the agency will continue finding real-world solutions for real-
world problems, driving biomedical innovation in a variety of arenas.
    The budget continues the Administration's commitment to support 
scientific innovation. It includes $50.1 billion in total resources for 
NIH, prioritizing in particular women's health research and firearms 
and gun violence research with additional funds. The budget also 
continues to support Brain Research Through Advancing Innovative 
Neurotechnologies, All of Us, and important research on opioids and 
pain management, HIV/AIDS, and health disparities to improve American 
health outcomes.
    To keep our nation at the forefront of scientific innovation, we 
must seize the promise of artificial intelligence--while also managing 
its risks. NIH is committed to harnessing the power of artificial 
intelligence to advance research, and has already launched ambitious 
initiatives to propel the fusion of biomedicine and artificial 
intelligence and machine learning. In addition, the FY 2025 budget 
provides resources to oversee artificial intelligence within the 
Department to advance its responsible use in public health and 
healthcare.
    The FY 2025 budget also invests in scientific research that has 
resulted in significant improvements to American lives. CDC's overall 
budget--increased by $520 million--prioritizes investments in areas 
such as improving public health data, preventing and mitigating the 
impact of infectious diseases, reducing injury and violence, and 
protecting against environmental health hazards. The budget also 
provides a total of $513 million to the Agency for Healthcare Research 
and Quality to further invest in their mission to produce scientific 
evidence that makes healthcare better, more accessible, and more 
affordable.
   supporting program operations and mission-critical infrastructure
    HHS needs sufficient operational funding to fulfill our mission. 
This includes resources to allow the Office of the Secretary to oversee 
the Federal government's largest budget. The budget makes badly needed 
investments in Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) Program 
Management to ensure CMS can carry out its core operations, such as 
surveying hospitals and nursing homes to ensure quality care is being 
delivered to millions of Medicare and Medicaid enrollees. It also 
invests in FDA to support the agency's expert staff that ensures the 
safety of our food supply, guarantees the effectiveness of our 
medicines, and that conduct rigorous and transparent scientific 
reviews.
    The Nonrecurring Expenses Fund is a key source of funding for 
Departmental operations. The Fund permits HHS to transfer unobligated 
balances of expired discretionary funds into an account for necessary 
information technology and facilities infrastructure acquisitions. 
Since FY 2013, the fund has allocated over $6.5 billion in capital 
investment projects across the Department. HHS's proposed FY 2025 
projects will address aging systems and facilities, including at IHS, 
NIH, and CDC. These improvements are integral in improving the health 
and well-being of the American people.
    A fundamental component of HHS's infrastructure is its 
cybersecurity capabilities. We have seen a dramatic rise in large data 
breaches reported to HHS, and the healthcare information HHS protects 
is a prime target for cybercriminals. Our plan sets the direction for 
cybersecurity in healthcare, both from a policy and operational lens, 
and commits HHS to pursuing new priorities to both strengthen and 
support the sector at this critical time. The FY 2025 budget 
prioritizes investments to address cybersecurity threats and invests 
$141 million in cybersecurity initiatives in the Office of the Chief 
Information Officer to address cybersecurity mandates and allow 
deployment of cybersecurity initiatives and tools that will keep the 
Department at the forefront in battling ever-evolving cyber threats. 
The investment in cybersecurity includes $11 million for the 
Department's Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act 
modernization to increase compliance, enhance the privacy and security 
of health information, and to improve breach prevention and response 
efforts. The budget also includes an increase of $12 million above FY 
2024 for ASPR as the agency designated to coordinate cybersecurity 
incident prevention and response in the healthcare and public health 
sector. The budget also establishes a Medicare incentive program to 
encourage hospitals to adopt essential and enhanced cybersecurity 
practices.
    The budget also invests in civil rights enforcement to ensure we do 
our part to protect the American people's fundamental rights of 
nondiscrimination and health information privacy. The budget provides 
the HHS Office for Civil Rights a $17 million increase, which includes 
a robust investment in enforcement staff to address and resolve major 
case increases that have led to a significant backlog.
    HHS also invests in program integrity and promoting competition to 
support our commitment to good stewardship of taxpayer dollars. Our 
responsibility is to ensure that every dollar entrusted to us directly 
enhances the lives of the American people. The budget invests a total 
of $4 billion over 10 years in new mandatory Health Care Fraud and 
Abuse Control funding to provide oversight of nursing homes, managed 
care, and community-based settings. This mandatory investment will 
yield a net savings of $5 billion over 10 years. Additionally, the 
budget provides increased funding to the discretionary Health Care 
Fraud and Abuse Control program and the HHS Office of Inspector General 
to support its oversight.
       improving the customer experience for the american public
    Lastly, I wanted to talk about how we are making government and 
government programs easier for American people to access and use. HHS 
is improving customer experience throughout the Department, mostly 
using current administrative funds. In FY 2025, the budget includes an 
$11 million investment for the Department to improve data services for 
benefits delivery, as well as $3 million to support the Streamlining 
Medicare-Only Enrollment project, among other efforts. These 
investments are bolstered by the HHS-wide customer experience 
initiative launched in FY 2024, one of the largest such initiatives in 
the Federal government to date. Our goal is to provide a customer 
experience that ensures the public can access and utilize the impactful 
resources within HHS. As part of the initiative, every agency within 
HHS will pursue substantial projects to improve services to the 
American people. This expands on the many customer experience 
initiatives HHS has already pursued. For example, HHS continues to 
partner with other departments and agencies through the Life 
Experiences initiative to streamline enrollment and eligibility across 
benefits programs such as Medicaid and the U.S. Department of 
Agriculture's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, increase 
access to decisionmaking support for older adults, reduce burdensome 
and repetitive manual income verifications, and support states in 
innovating and improving Federal-state benefits access and delivery.
                               conclusion
    I am honored to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, 
working alongside dedicated civil servants to enhance the health and 
well-being of the American people. Investments in this budget will 
allow us to continue fulfilling our mission, and we know you are all 
critical partners in achieving this goal. We are grateful for your 
support of the Department, and we are excited to work with you on 
funding for FY 2025.
    I want to thank the Committee for inviting me to discuss the 
President's FY 2025 Budget for HHS. I look forward to working with you 
to fulfill that vision. Thank you for your partnership in advancing our 
shared goal to improve the health, safety, and well-being of our 
nation.

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    We are now going to begin our questions. And I will start 
by recognizing myself.

                            OPIOID EPIDEMIC

    Secretary Becerra, our communities continue to struggle 
with the opioid crisis. I cited the statistics in my opening 
statement, but as a reminder, in 2022, 108,000 Americans died 
from a drug overdose, a record high. We have seen the opioid 
epidemic transform over the years. When I first was elected to 
the Senate, it was primarily an epidemic of prescribed opioids, 
and then we saw some shift to the use of heroin. But now, with 
the emergence of synthetic opioids like fentanyl, we are seeing 
an increase in deaths among individuals, particularly youth, 
who don't even know that they are taking fentanyl.
    With fentanyl, one pill can kill. How does the HHS budget 
address the devastation that we are seeing from opioid-related 
deaths in our communities?
    Secretary Becerra. Madam Chair, perhaps the most important 
thing is that we recognize, as you just mentioned, that it is a 
shifting landscape. And so some $9 billion that the President's 
budget has to address drug overdose and the opioid addiction, 
are really targeted on things like fentanyl, on trying to make 
sure that we give States the capacity to help their young 
populations avoid overdose, and it makes sure that we are 
providing the harm reduction to make sure that people don't 
accidentally kill themselves when they think they are doing 
something that is recreational.
    And so of the $9 billion, it should not surprise you that 
more than a-billion-and-a-half is going to State Opioid 
Resource Grants that will help States decide how they can best 
tackle the opioid crisis, especially among children.
    SAMHSA (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services 
Administration), our agency that administers most of our 
substance use and mental health programs, is going to receive 
about $4.5 billion of the $9 billion, because they are the ones 
that work closely with state mental health programs throughout 
the country. And so it is letting the States have the 
flexibility and the resources to tackle this crisis.
    Senator Baldwin. I want to dig a little bit deeper here, 
because as I mentioned many times, teens will take a pill that 
they got from a friend or got online, unaware that it is laced 
with fentanyl. I have heard from so many parents in the State 
of Wisconsin who have lost a child to fentanyl poisoning. The 
budget proposes substantial funding for treatment programs, 
which is certainly incredibly important for tackling this 
crisis, but how is HHS working to prevent young adults from 
using--and children, from using drugs and making these deadly 
mistakes in the first place?
    Secretary Becerra. Madam Chair, we did something at the 
Federal level that had not been done before. We stopped relying 
on stigma to drive our Federal policy. So today, we actually 
support programs that offer fentanyl strips to individuals so 
they can find out if the drug they might be taking is laced 
with fentanyl. That way, they don't kill themselves.
    We also made naloxone far more available. So today, you 
could have access to naloxone in public places so that if you 
see someone who is overdosed, there is a great chance that you 
might save their life by administering the naloxone for them. 
And so we are also trying to make sure that local communities 
understand what they can do to make that naloxone more 
available.
    So whether it is naloxone, fentanyl strips, clean syringes, 
we are now using the evidence-based programs that have shown 
success to drive our policies.
    Maternal Health
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. I want to shift. In 2018, I 
worked to pass legislation requiring HRSA (Health Resources and 
Services Administration) to identify areas with critical 
shortages of maternity healthcare professionals, so that we 
would have evidence to support increased investments in areas 
where women and families need providers the most.
    Unfortunately, the number of maternity care deserts 
nationwide continues to increase, and over 2 million women live 
in a county without a hospital, birth center, or obstetrics' 
provider. The decision overturning Roe has made this problem 
worse, as States with abortion bans have seen a drop in 
applicants for obstetrics and gynecology residency.
    Given our Nation's unacceptably high rates of maternal 
mortality, we must do everything we can to target investment to 
increase access to care, and support the maternal healthcare 
workforce.
    Secretary Becerra, what is HHS doing to build the 
professional--the workforce pipeline and better support our 
maternal care professionals?
    Secretary Becerra. Madam Chair, there are about $8 billion 
dollars that are dedicated in this budget to trying to address 
maternal health. Much of it is focused specifically--$400 
million is focused specifically on trying to tackle the 
maternal mortality and morbidity rates that we see in some of 
our communities, especially the Black and Native American 
communities.
    We are trying to make sure that we get to women before 
there is any chance that they would have complications in their 
pregnancy. And as you know, as a result of our efforts on 
Medicaid, and your support, we now are able to offer a woman 
and her baby not just 60 days of maternal health and child care 
after delivery, not just 60 days, but 365 days of care for mom 
and baby so they can make sure they are going to start with a 
fruitful life.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Capito.

                              RURAL HEALTH

    Senator Capito. Thank you. Yes, Secretary Becerra, I want 
to talk about rural health, because I mentioned in my opening 
statement a $12 million--it appears as though it is $12 million 
lower. I understand that our bill funded it at $36--I think 
$364.6 million, which is rural outreach, rural hospital 
flexibility, and other things. The request is for $352, which 
is lower, 12.2 lower than what we actually funded this for.
    I understand also that the budget release and then the 
timing of the actual passing of the budget were almost at the 
exact same time, it might not have been ideal for you. What 
would you say about that? Healthcare delivery systems in rural 
America are still very difficult and underfunded; we have the 
lowest life expectancies in rural America. What is your 
response to that?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, you actually touched on 
probably the most important aspect of my answer, and that is 
that our budget was being framed at a time when we had no idea 
what the 2024 budget would look like. And because of the 
constraints on where we could go, we had to make sure we tried 
to be consistent with what might come out. So we are more than 
willing to work with you on the kinds of investments we would 
make in healthcare generally, but more specifically with regard 
to rural health.
    You will find that there are specific investments in rural 
health, especially in the area of substance use disorders, in 
trying to keep hospitals afloat that we can work on to build on 
because I think you are right. There is no doubt that it is 
tougher if you are in a rural community to find a healthcare 
facility near you. And so we will do everything we can to try 
to keep not just them sustained but also have them thrive.
    Senator Capito. Well, we will work on that. And 
understanding the circumstances of when your budget came out.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.

                          OVERDOSE PREVENTION

    Senator Capito. I did have a lot of questions on drug abuse 
and SAMHSA, prevention, and harm reduction. Here is the 
discouraging thing. These statistics are not coming down. I 
mean, the overdose statistics I heard on the radio the other 
day that the statistics in D.C. alone were up, I don't know, 
20, 30 percent deaths resulting from overdose. We don't have--I 
don't think we have the statistics quite yet for this past 
year.
    We have got a flow of fentanyl coming up through the 
southern border. We have got to do better here. I mean, we are 
really losing a generation. And I understand in your last 
answer, some of the areas, you know, fentanyl strips, and 
naloxone, but that is still just treating somebody who is 
already in heavy addiction. I mean, I think the prevention 
aspects of it have not gotten to the younger children as much 
as they should. We have got to start at kindergarten. What is 
your response to that?
    Secretary Becerra. With you, completely with you on that. 
Here is the difficulty. As you know, at the Federal level, the 
Department of Health and Human Services, we don't administer 
these programs. We work with the States. The States are the 
ones that have control over healthcare and this aspect of 
healthcare. What we do is, essentially, provide them with more 
resources, or we give them some support and flexibility in 
doing what they can with the dollars that we give them. We are 
more than willing to work with the States to increase their 
capacities. They need more capacity.
    Senator Capito. What States are doing it? Or I mean, I am 
sure you are looking at what the innovative programs of a State 
that might be able to be shared nationally, I am sure that is 
best practices that you are pursuing here on the prevention 
side.
    Secretary Becerra. Oregon, as you know, had an issue with 
increasing drug use, and what they have done, when I have been 
to visit, I have seen how they are incorporating young people 
into their programs, to try to get them to become essentially 
peer support, so that peer-to-peer kids are hearing from 
someone who can help them out, obviously getting the adult and 
professional help as well. But we need to try to reach young 
people, to your point, before they become users.
    And so there is where we have got to figure out a way to 
capture them quickly, and I think Oregon is doing a pretty good 
job of trying to use young folks to help them approach that 
cohort.
    Senator Capito. Well, coming from a State that doesn't have 
the legalization of recreational marijuana, I think that is an 
example of where some of the issues may be. I know there is a 
lot of people that believe that is a good thing to do. I 
personally am not one of them.

                           SUICIDE PREVENTION

    Quickly, on the suicide prevention line you have asked for 
a lot more money here, we have provided a four-fold increase in 
fiscal year 2023, you are requesting a $100 million more for 
2025, and I am wondering, can you give me a breakdown? You 
might not have that right now, but how is this breaking out to, 
is it going out the door to State and local crisis centers, 
versus a contractor that is administering the system? I would 
just like some more details on this request given the sensitive 
nature of the program and the critical work they do.
    Secretary Becerra. Certainly, and we can follow up with 
your staff to give you more of the details because those are 
out there. Most of the money helps sustain the State operation, 
the call centers that already existed. We essentially have 
buoyed them, because we established backup call centers, 
because a lot of the States didn't have the capacity to deal 
with all the calls that might come in. We didn't want people 
waiting on the phone, busy signal.
    Senator Capito. No. Yes.
    Secretary Becerra. So we stood up all the backup call 
centers. We also made specialty lines. So for example if you 
are a veteran there is a line that is specific for you.
    Senator Capito. Right.
    Secretary Becerra. Those are the things that the Federal 
dollars have really helped boost. We also helped create the 
text and chat feature so that if you didn't want to focus----
    Senator Capito. Is that online now, the text and chat 
feature?
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. Absolutely it is.
    Senator Capito. Okay.
    Secretary Becerra. Absolutely. It is available now for 
hearing impaired, it is available in some places in Spanish 
language, and we are trying to make sure no one feels like they 
should not call. And now you hear that we are going to finally 
get to the point where we can make the 988 Call work so that 
wherever you are, whatever your area code is you are going to 
get some--a professional where you happen to be, not based on 
your area code. It is working the $600 million that is in the 
President's budget for 988 is absolutely going to save lives. 
We know that in the first 18 months of launching national 988 
a-million-and a-half people reached out to us, and said, help, 
we were able to answer.
    Senator Capito. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Madam Chair.

                                ABORTION

    Thank you, Mr. Secretary, for being here. Mr. Secretary, if 
a mother is healthy, and the baby is healthy do you really 
support abortion of the baby up to the moment of birth?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, let me make sure, to the moment 
of birth you are saying after gestation, the 40 weeks of----
    Senator Kennedy. You know what I am saying, Mr. Secretary.
    Secretary Becerra. Well, if I----
    Senator Kennedy. Let us suppose it is a day before the day 
before the due date and the baby is fully formed, and the baby 
is healthy.
    Secretary Becerra. I think----
    Senator Kennedy. And mother is healthy, do you support 
aborting--the right to abort the baby then?
    Secretary Becerra. I have heard no one say that. I think 
everyone has said those who support Reproductive Rights have 
said----
    Senator Kennedy. You have said----
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Support Roe v. Wade.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. You have said it. In 2020 in 
a press release, this is what you say, you said, quote, ``No 
government, State or Federal, has the right to make decisions 
for a woman about her body or her healthcare'', end quote, your 
words, not mine.
    Secretary Becerra. Good words.
    Senator Kennedy. So let me ask you again, up to the moment 
of birth, if the mother is healthy, and the baby is healthy, do 
you believe that--that there should be the right to abort that 
baby up to the moment of birth?
    Secretary Becerra. And I, again, I will give you the 
answer. I have always supported Roe v. Wade, which does not do 
what you have just said. And I know of no one who is proposing 
or advocating what you have just announced, and I would hope 
that what you would recognize is that that should not stop a 
woman from having the right to decide for herself with the 
consultation of her physician what she should do.
    Senator Kennedy. Would you support making it legal -- 
illegal to abort a baby if the mother is healthy and the baby 
is healthy on the day before that baby is scheduled to be born?
    Secretary Becerra. I certainly would support the 
reestablishment of Roe v. Wade.
    Senator Kennedy. So you think that there are restrictions 
that the State, Federal, or State, as the case may be, can 
place on abortion?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, if you talk to any woman she 
will tell you that she uses common sense in making her 
decisions.
    Senator Kennedy. Do you -think that the State or the 
Federal Government, in the third trimester of a pregnancy, has 
the right to impose limitations, moral and legal right to 
impose limitations on an abortion? I think that is yes or no.
    Secretary Becerra. I would certainly say that Roe v. Wade 
answered those questions, we defend and support----
    Senator Kennedy. I want--sorry----
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Roe v. Wade.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Roe v. Wade has been 
overturned. I want your answer, do you support restrictions by 
the Federal or the State Government on the right to an abortion 
in the third trimester.
    Secretary Becerra. And my answer is clear that if we 
establish Roe v. Wade, we get back to a system that gives women 
protection----
    Senator Kennedy. Do you support restrictions to the right 
to an abortion in the third trimester? Why are you dodging the 
question?
    Secretary Becerra. Well, no, I am just saying--I am telling 
you where I am. I am----
    Senator Kennedy. Tell me, do you support restrictions in 
the third trimester----
    Secretary Becerra. I have personally----
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. If the mother is healthy and 
the baby is healthy?
    Secretary Becerra. And Senator, let me try to make sure I 
answer this. Personally, as you have mentioned, I have been 
quoted on a number of occasions before I became Secretary. I 
support a woman's right to make a decision about her body.
    Senator Kennedy. But do you support restrictions in the 
third trimester? I just asked--why are you embarrassed to 
answer?
    Secretary Becerra. Because I believe in Roe v. Wade, and I 
think everyone recognizes that that law----
    Senator Kennedy. You support Roe v. Wade?
    Secretary Becerra. I do.
    Senator Kennedy. Roe v. Wade allowed for restrictions in 
the third trimester.
    Secretary Becerra. Then you have your answer.
    Senator Kennedy. Do you support restrictions in the third 
trimester?
    Secretary Becerra. If Roe v. Wade is as you have described 
it----
    Senator Kennedy. Why are you scared to answer the question?
    Secretary Becerra. I am not afraid to answer, I am 
actually----
    Senator Kennedy. Are you scared you are going to get in 
trouble with people, with your--your colleagues----
    Secretary Becerra. No, no, no; not at all.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. To support abortion up to the 
moment of birth?
    Secretary Becerra. Not at all.
    Senator Kennedy. Then why won't she answer the question?
    Secretary Becerra. Because, Senator, I think I have given 
you the answer that makes the most sense. Roe v. Wade worked 
for some 50 years----
    Senator Kennedy. Do you support restrictions in the third 
trimester on the right to abortion? It is real simple. You are 
the Secretary of a Department of the United States of America. 
Do you support them or do you oppose them?
    Secretary Becerra. My answer is pretty simple, we will 
defend Roe v. Wade----
    Senator Kennedy. What is simple? You don't want to answer 
it, do you?
    Secretary Becerra. I have answered you----
    Senator Kennedy. Do you know why you don't want to answer, 
because you and your colleagues believe that a child has no 
rights, even a fully developed child, you know that.
    Secretary Becerra. You can say that.
    Senator Kennedy. And I know.
    Secretary Becerra. I know where I am. I will continue to 
defend women's rights.
    Senator Kennedy. Let me ask you for a final time. I think 
this is a number of times.
    Secretary Becerra. It is not going to make any difference. 
But go ahead.
    Senator Kennedy. Yes. Well, if you want to choose to not 
answer it. That is up to you.
    Secretary Becerra. I am not denying anything, Senator.
    Senator Kennedy. You--what--let me phrase it another way. 
What restrictions do you support in the third trimester to the 
right of a--to an abortion? Tell me what restrictions.
    Secretary Becerra. If you read the Roe v. Wade decision, it 
will answer your question.
    Senator Kennedy. Why don't you just answer it for me?
    Secretary Becerra. I did. Roe v. Wade established the 
protection----
    Senator Kennedy. What restriction do you support on the 
right to an abortion in the third trimester, you personally?
    Secretary Becerra. Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade.
    Senator Kennedy. Okay. Roe v. Wade doesn't say what 
restrictions. Roe v. Wade just says, the State and the Federal 
Government have the right to impose restrictions. I am asking 
you what restrictions you support? For example, if the mother 
and the baby are healthy, and we are week before birth, and the 
parents change their mind and say we don't want a boy, we want 
a girl, abort the baby who happens to be a girl, would you 
support that right?
    Secretary Becerra. I know no one who would go as far as 
what you are indicating.
    Senator Kennedy. Well, then why wouldn't you say you would 
oppose it?
    Secretary Becerra. Because I am telling you where I stand.
    Senator Kennedy. No, you are not.
    Secretary Becerra. And I have been very clear on that for a 
long time.
    Senator Kennedy. You are dodging, and wobbling, and 
weaving, and flip-flopping like a----
    Secretary Becerra. Let me stand as you would like. Senator, 
I won't move, and I will just move my lips----
    Senator Kennedy. Let me ask you this, if a week before--a 
week before birth baby healthy, mother healthy, would you 
support the right to an abortion because the parents dislike 
the gender of the baby. Yes or no?
    Secretary Becerra. As I said, a woman should have the right 
to----
    Senator Kennedy. But you haven't said, Mr. Secretary.
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Make decisions about her 
body.
    Senator Kennedy. Yes, you won't answer my question. Would 
you support that?
    Secretary Becerra. As I have said, I am going to do 
everything I can to support a women's right to make the 
decision about her body.
    Senator Kennedy. Would you support what I just described? 
You are not going to answer me are you? I don't understand why 
you are scared to answer me.
    Secretary Becerra. I am not afraid. I am not afraid to 
answer your question. I have answered it over and over.
    Senator Kennedy. You are scared to take----
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. I just find that appalling. You are the 
Secretary of the Department.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. Can we have a second round, Madam Chair?
    Senator Baldwin. I am just gonna start a second round right 
now.
    Senator Kennedy. (Off mic) I need some answers. If I can 
just add anything----
    Senator Baldwin. You just hang in here. We are going to 
start a second round of questioning. We will certainly 
accommodate any Senators who have not yet had their first 
round, who appear. As we know we have several competing 
subcommittee hearings at this juncture.

                           988 IMPLEMENTATION

    Secretary Becerra, I want to also address the 988 
implementation, I was proud to be the co-sponsor of the 988 
legislation along with former Senator Cory Gardner, and I 
believe that it has been a remarkable service. You know we 
always had a Suicide Prevention Hotline but nobody remembered 
the 10-digit number, especially at a time of crisis. And when 
we launched the 988 number it has, literally, been a lifeline 
for so many.
    I want to ask you specifically about a pilot program that 
has been underway regarding LGBTQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, 
transgender and queer) youth. You mentioned already, when you 
call there is a screening for Service members, if you are a 
veteran of our Military Service you can get routed to 
appropriate and knowledgeable services.
    Last year was a record-breaking year for legislative 
efforts around the country that target LGBTQ individuals, 
including the ability to receive healthcare, inclusion and 
education, even access to public restrooms, it should not 
therefore be a shock that lesbian, gay, bisexual, and 
transgender youth are more likely to experience anxiety, 
depression, and thoughts of suicide than their peers. In fact, 
LGBTQ young people are far more--are more than four times more 
likely to attempt suicide than their peers.
    We are seeing that these attacks do not live in a vacuum, 
and that they have real world consequences. I have been glad to 
work with you and the Department in creating and now expanding 
specialized services within the larger 988 crisis and suicide 
prevention lifeline, to provide response to LGBTQ youth in 
crisis. We know that there is a need there.
    In February alone almost 40,000 contacts were answered by 
the LGBTQ sub-network of 988. Can you expand on how these 
specialized crisis services for LGBTQ youth and the pilot has 
helped support this population?
    Secretary Becerra. Madam Chair, absolutely because I think 
you are going to the heart of what makes 988 so valuable, and 
that is that you have individuals who are challenged, who are 
at a moment of crisis who turn to someone, and actually trust, 
will extend confidence in someone through a phone call, through 
a chat, and that is a tremendous thing.
    And so to begin this pilot back in September of 2022, see 
it working, expand it to some seven different call centers, and 
see more than 40,000 calls come in specifically from the LGBTQ 
community means that they are responding. We want to continue 
that, because we want anyone who is facing crisis to feel like 
they can have the confidence to make the call, have their call 
be personal and private, and also get the help they need.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. I was just singing the praises 
of the program but I--still there are many people who are 
unaware of this crisis service. And I understand HHS is 
planning a public awareness campaign to spread the word on 988, 
will the proposed increase for 988, included in the budget 
request, support the anticipated increase in call volume as a 
result of the awareness campaign that you are conducting?
    Secretary Becerra. We are hoping to address it. We are 
hoping States will further step up to the plate to help us, 
because at the end of the day it is their call centers that are 
the front line. So we need States to continue to grow their 
capacity, because we can only depend on the generosity of 
Congress to help sustain that national component.
    What we don't want is to have gaps. We want you to be able 
to call from whatever part of the country you are in, so we 
continue to partner with States and tell them, please make 
commitments in your own budget to sustain your operations. Some 
States have actually done that they have got a permanent flow 
of dollars; most States don't.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Madam Chairman.

                       JESSICA GRUBB'S LEGACY ACT

    Secretary, I was pleased to see the Department's finalized 
the rule implementing the Jessica Grubb's Legacy Act we worked 
on for so long. The law reduces barriers for treating persons 
with substance abuse disorder by aligning the privacy laws 
governing the records with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability 
and Accountability Act), the law which governs all other health 
privacy records.
    This is a law for medical professionals to access vital 
information they need to properly coordinate the care. In 2018, 
Congress passed a separate law in honor of Jessica, Jessie 
Grubb's life, just called Jessie's Law, this requires HHS to 
develop best practices standards for hospitals, and doctors 
display a patient history of opioid disorder when the patient 
provides that information. With the implementation of the 
Legacy Act it is now time to fully implement Jessie's Law.
    So the Department has finalized the rule on confidentiality 
of substance use disorder, patient records, when will it be 
releasing best practices for displaying opioid use disorder in 
patient records?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, first, thank you for the work 
you have done, because I don't think people recognize that in 
many cases because of this--I don't want to call it an excuse, 
because of the difficulties with privacy laws, HIPAA privacy 
laws a lot of essential information about a patient wasn't 
getting to the providers, and they were making the wrong 
decisions especially when it related to drug addiction. And so 
the work that you and your colleagues have done has really 
helped.
    Senator Manchin. Senator Capito and I worked on it, and we 
know the family very well, it was so horrifying. This young 
lady had problems in something stemmed from when she was in 
college, but then she was trying to get herself, clean she 
started running, and being competitive.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. And she and her parents who--an attorney 
and her mother is an educator, both went with her to the 
hospital, and says, please, identify and mark my record showing 
it. And they forgot to do it.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. And so what we are doing is we are 
trying to tackle that HIPAA privacy hurdle, so that it doesn't 
become the reason the information isn't fully there. But you 
can understand how important it is to maintain privacy.
    Senator Manchin. Oh. And we know that. But now that we have 
done everything, we have got through every hoop possible.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. When will you all be doing--when can we 
expect it too finally----
    Secretary Becerra. We are now working with providers, we 
have developed a training module so that they understand how 
this can work, how they can be consistent with privacy laws, 
yet still include the information, so a lot of it is going to 
be, and we can use your help because we need providers to start 
understanding what the new rules are. They are going to say to 
you, oh, no, we can't do that because of HIPAA privacy. We want 
them to understand, oh, no, no, Jessie's Law----
    Senator Manchin. Well, I think this law is very clear, 
basically, it says that the patient himself and the guardians 
have to have permission, and give you permission to do it.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. So we thought we crossed every hurdle, 
crossed every T and dotted every I; it is just time to 
implement it.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. So I would implore you to----
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. We are doing it.
    Senator Manchin [continuing]. Get your staff moving on this 
one here. We waited a long time for it.
    Secretary Becerra. And, Senator, I just pointed out we need 
the help of the providers to make sure that they are getting 
their personnel to understand the new rule.
    Senator Manchin. Okay.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. Well, I think the quicker you put them 
out, the quicker they will understand them.
    Secretary Becerra. Absolutely.

                                  HRSA

    Senator Manchin. The Health Resources and Services 
Administration, administers grants and programs that are 
critical to rural health centers, and clinics, and hospitals, 
your budget requests a $2 billion increase to this agency to 
carry out these programs. However, many areas of West Virginia 
remain unable to access these resources; West Virginia is the 
only State that lies completely within the Appalachian Mountain 
region.
    The United States Department of Agriculture, Economic 
Research Services recognized a unique topography, we are the 
most rugged, mountainous State they know east of the 
Mississippi. And a recent report on what we call Rugged 
Terrain, that has all been identified and how we have been 
classifying it. The report found that almost 81 percent of West 
Virginians live in a rugged area, that is compared to just 11.7 
percent of the entire United States population.
    The fiscal year 2024 bill included language for HRSA to 
review this report to update their rural definition to better 
capture the uniqueness of Appalachia. Can you provide an update 
on this review and a time line for when we are going to see 
some results so they can qualify for the needed funds they need 
for rural healthcare?
    Secretary Becerra. So we are not waiting. As you know, 
Senator, we are moving forward with a new classification--some 
classification for hospitals that don't meet the critical 
access care definition, so that a lot of those facilities that 
are teetering don't go under, so they can get some additional 
funding.

                           BEHAVIORAL HEALTH

    I was mentioning to Senator Capito some of the work we are 
doing to make further investments in behavioral health 
especially in substance use. But we are absolutely prepared to 
work with you as you all give us some guidance about how to get 
into these communities that are very rural to make sure we are 
being as constructive as possible. We will work with the States 
as much as we can, because they understand better what their 
State needs in terms of the rural health facilities, but we are 
trying to make sure that these new changes that you helped us 
put forward will help some of the States that have large rural 
communities, address the concerns of individuals a lot faster.
    Senator Manchin. Sir, I thank you for your service. I just 
want to say again on Jessie's Law that has been a long time in 
coming, okay, and the family they are just hanging on, needles 
and pins, just waiting for it to be completed. They want to 
save lives. They don't want anyone to go through what they have 
gone through.
    And on the rural classification, if you want to know why 
that divide is becoming bigger and bigger, rural areas have 
been left behind, the money has not gone appropriately for the 
challenges they have. And that is so important.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, sir.
    Secretary Becerra. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Madam Chairman.

                              RURAL HEALTH

    Good to see you Mr. Secretary, thank you for being here. In 
2003, Congress established the Rural Community Hospital 
Demonstration Program to test an alternative payment model for 
rural hospitals that were facing certain financial constraints 
with the Medicare's Inpatient Prospective Patient Program, the 
IPPS. And Congress has extended the program several times, most 
recently in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021.
    Mississippi ranks among the States with the highest rate of 
hospital at-risk closings. This demonstration program could 
serve as a means to keep their rural hospital doors open to 
serve their communities in need of high quality healthcare. 
However, CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services) has not 
solicited applications since 2017, despite, as I understand it, 
there being a handful of open spots in the program. Do you 
believe this program has been helpful to rural hospitals facing 
closure, and should we extend the program when the time comes?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, thank you for the question. The 
rural emergency hospital designation extended a lifeline to 
some of these facilities, it is absolutely essential that we 
give hospitals that are willing to stay open, a chance to 
survive if the older version definition of how they could get 
reimbursed isn't working for them. So we look forward to 
working with you, because we have got to figure out a way to 
keep some of these facilities open and operating.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Do you know about how many spots are 
currently open right now in the program?
    Secretary Becerra. I don't have that with me, but I can 
make sure my team follows up with you.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. No problem. And can you commit to 
working with me to solicit applications for the program and 
find ways to help us keep these hospitals open?
    Secretary Becerra. Absolutely.

                            MATERNAL HEALTH

    Senator Hyde-Smith. I have talked to hospital 
administrators this morning that have been in my office, and we 
are constantly battling this in Mississippi, you know, we are 
just putting out one fire after the other.
    Mississippi has consistently seen some of the poorest 
maternal health outcomes in the Nation, made worse by high 
rates of chronic disease and limited access to specialty care 
for many mothers.
    And we have also led the Nation an infant mortality, 
something that we are not proud of at all, and very concerned 
about. It is driven largely by a very high pre-term birth rate 
stemming from lack of prenatal care. Access to maternity care 
in rural areas is a major challenge and we are seeing a rapid 
expansion of OB (Obstetric) deserts, that we refer to them as, 
across Mississippi.
    In some areas of my State women are having to drive more 
than an hour for any kind of obstetric care. How can we work 
with you to improve outcomes for our mothers and babies in 
Mississippi?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, because everything you have 
said I agree with, with regard to maternal health and 
especially how it is impacting our Black and Native American 
communities. The most important thing is early access. And as 
you mentioned, sometimes especially because a State like 
Mississippi has a lot of rural communities it is tough to have 
access. And so that is why it is so important to not allow any 
existing health facility to go under in Rural America, because 
then the access becomes even more difficult.
    Telemedicine, telehealth is going to be very important for 
communities, families in rural America, because it means they 
can have access without having to do the physical travel, we 
will continue to support that so long as Congress gives us the 
flexibilities to offer telehealth flexibilities.
    But the most important thing is access. And I will simply 
say here, many of the women who are having bad outcomes could 
have qualified for earlier care had they been eligible for 
Medicaid. And I think if we expand Medicaid in some of the 
States that haven't yet done it, about a-million-and-a-half 
more Americans, many of them women, who want to deliver a baby, 
would have access to early care and not wait until it is a 
difficult circumstance in the delivery.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Yes. Well, I appreciate your concern 
and your willingness to help with this, because it truly is 
crucial. Mississippi is a large State, we don't have many 
people but we are a large State.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. And we are scattered, and it is truly a 
hardship on so many mothers to actually get to that care. We 
have a lot of babies born in cars, sad to say. My time is out. 
Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Chair Murray.
    Senator Murray. Well, thank you very much Chair Baldwin. 
Secretary Becerra, good to see you. I appreciate you joining us 
today.
    HHS really is on the front lines of some of the most 
challenging issues that our families are facing, opioids mental 
health, child care, so much more. It is crucial that we 
maintain strong investments in life-saving biomedical research, 
building a strong healthcare workforce, and public health 
system, getting families affordable care close to home, and a 
lot more.
    Not to mention the constant attacks on reproductive care. 
Women in 21 States are now living under abortion bans, and 
Arizona is under a ban that dates back to before women even had 
the right to vote, despite strong support for abortion access 
around the country, anti-abortion extremists are continuing to 
attack not only abortion care, but IVF (In vitro 
fertilization), and birth control.
    Everyone, I believe, deserves the freedom to control their 
own bodies, their own lives, and their own future, free from 
interference from politicians, which is why I strongly support 
President Biden's decision to once again remove Hyde from this 
year's budget.

                               CHILD CARE

    I look forward to continuing to work with you to protect 
reproductive healthcare every way we can, in all 50 States. And 
I am glad we have the opportunity today to talk about how we 
can provide the resources necessary to meet all the healthcare 
challenges before us and support families in my State and 
across the country. Programs like the Child Care and 
Development Block Grant and Head Start are a lifeline for 
working parents, who need affordable high-quality child care 
and early learning opportunities for their kids. They are an 
investment, not just for our families, but in our workforce and 
in our economy.
    So I am really glad that Senator Baldwin and I were able to 
send an increase of $1 billion to the President's desk to 
invest in child care and early learning for fiscal year 2024.
    Since 2015, I and many others have increased funding for 
these programs by more than 250 percent. But it is, as you 
know, a drop in the bucket when looking at the child care 
crisis that exists in this country.
    We need to protect and strengthen the investments we have 
made to make sure families can find and afford child care, 
however possible. That means more annual funding, extending 
stabilization dollars, and hopefully passing my Child Care for 
Working Families Act.
    Can you tell us today about the current state of the child 
care sector and why investments in programs like CDBG 
(Community Development Block Grant) are critical now more than 
ever?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, thank you. And again, thank you 
for championing child care, writ large, and your success in 
getting additional funds for so many families desperately in 
need.
    Today, getting child care is like having your infant go to 
college, the cost of child care is, essentially, tuition in a 
major university. It makes it very difficult for parents, 
especially parents who have more than one child, to really 
sustain that.
    We also know that the quality of care can sometimes be 
questionable because the pay for some of these workers is so 
low. You can sometimes make more money flipping burgers than 
caring for children. We need to change that as well. The 
President's budget, thanks to the investments that many of you 
have made possible, will continue to move an effort.
    The President's proposal would make it possible for some 
families to qualify to have child care for $10 a day which 
would ultimately save them, each, those families about oh 
$7,200 in a year in the cost of their child care when you total 
it up. That would be a proposal that would help so many of the 
families, some 16 million families would qualify for that 
support. And so it is so important to move forward, as you 
said, to continue to make the investments in child care.

                            MATERNAL HEALTH

    Senator Murray. Thank you. I really appreciate that. We 
will continue to focus on that. Mr. Secretary this week is 
Black Maternal Health Week. It is an important time to talk 
about the devastating maternal mortality crisis here in the 
United States. The U.S. is now one of the most dangerous places 
in the world to give birth. And that really is astounding to 
me. Despite most maternal deaths being preventable, it is clear 
our systems are failing mothers, especially Black, Hispanic, 
and Native mothers who experience the high highest rate of 
maternal mortality.
    And extreme State abortion bans passed since the Dobbs 
decision, have further eroded the access to maternal health 
because we don't have as many providers for maternal health 
care across our country. We were able to secure a $21 million 
increase for the Improving Maternal Health Initiative across 
HRSA, CDC, and NIH in our fiscal year 2024 bill, and building 
on increases from 2023, and I hope to continue that progress in 
this budget.
    Can you talk to us about what HHS is doing now to address 
this issue and about the additional investments in maternal 
health that you are actually proposing for next year?
    Secretary Becerra. And again because of the efforts of you 
and others that we have been able to continue to increase the 
funding of maternal health. This budget, the 2025 budget by the 
President provides close to $400 million for maternal 
mortality, morbidity, to address that, because as you 
mentioned, in too many cases a Black woman is two or three 
times more likely to die at childbirth than a White woman.
    I think I misspoke and said $8 billion, it is actually $2 
billion in this Federal budget by the President, is dedicated 
to maternal health. We are now, as I mentioned earlier, before 
you got here, Senator, making available care for a woman who 
qualifies for Medicaid, and for her baby, rather than just for 
60 days, she now qualifies for 365 days of care, and so does 
her baby. We are doing a lot. Doulas are being made available 
to families.
    We are trying to do what we can upfront before the 
delivery, so the woman gets good care before delivery, gets 
good care during delivery, and good care after delivery.

                           YOUTH HOMELESSNESS

    Senator Murray. Okay. Very good. And finally, on youth 
homelessness prevention, I am laser-focused on making sure the 
Federal Government is doing everything we can to support young 
people who are experiencing homelessness and doing more to 
prevent it. I was very proud to champion new funding in our 
2024 bill for a demonstration program that will provide grants 
to State, local, and tribal governments, and local 
organizations to help prevent youth homelessness. What is HHS 
doing to address and prevent youth homelessness?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, thanks for that work that you 
are doing. We are working with States. I am the Chair of our 
Interagency Council on Homelessness, working with HUD 
(Department of Housing and Urban Development) and other 
agencies to make sure that we are tackling homelessness with 
the support of the local governments, who actually have the 
day-today-to-day responsibility for it.
    I will tell you this, we are focused on getting families 
and children, first and foremost, off the streets, and we are 
trying to make sure foster kids don't fall into homelessness 
once they age out of the foster care system. And so we are 
doing what we can--and by the way, we are also focusing on 
LGBTQ young people because we know so many of them end up 
becoming homeless. And if we get to them early, we can keep 
them with a family. We can keep them healthy.
    Senator Murray. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, 
Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Next, for a second round, we have Senator 
Capito.

                                 ARPA-H

    Senator Capito. Thank you. Thank you again, Mr. Secretary. 
We authorized ARPA-H (Advanced Research Projects Agency for 
Health) at 1--well, it was funded at $1.5 billion, and you are 
requesting flat funding for ARPA-H. For those who don't know 
what that is, it is intended to fund high-risk, high-reward 
research to find biomedical and health breakthroughs. It is 
fashioned after DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects 
Agency), which is done in the defense arena.
    And biomedical research has long enjoyed bipartisan 
support, of which mine is obviously part of that support. I 
have heard some concerns about either repetitive, or 
deflecting, or competitive, maybe, research that could be 
doing--that is conducted at NIH as opposed to ARPA-H. So ARPA-H 
reports to you and NIH is a separate entity. And I would like 
to know, can you tell me how you plan to make sure that the 
research activities of ARPA-H and NIH remain distinct? And I 
mean, I don't think they should be siloed because one can feed 
to the other, but to avoid that duplication?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, so just to be sure we are 
clear, both NIH and ARPA-H----
    Senator Capito. Right.
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Report to me. But ARPA-H, 
which is very similar in its research mission, some said should 
have been housed within NIH.
    Senator Capito. Right.
    Secretary Becerra. What we did was we kept it separate, 
because it is supposed to be a much more nimble operation. The 
difference, basic research is done at NIH, it may take 10 to 15 
years before we see some novel discovery come out of the NIH 
research. ARPA-H says in 2 years, no more than perhaps 3 years, 
you are on the ground with this novel approach.
    And so ARPA-H was, as you mentioned, with DARPA, with the 
Department of Defense, to help us get those innovators who are 
having difficulty finding enough money, because it is a small 
idea actually get them off the ground. And so this is where 
that cutting-edge research will quickly get moving.
    And so ARPA-H has actually had some great successes. And as 
I mentioned to you in our conversation, love to make sure that, 
if you would like, you know, we will let you know some of the 
projects that are underway at ARPA-H.
    Senator Capito. Yes. So I understand your longest project, 
so far, is 9 months' old. I mean, that is because this is a new 
program.
    Secretary Becerra. Correct.
    Senator Capito. You had the ability to withdraw funding at 
any--and I don't know how many projects you have going, nine to 
ten, maybe going right now.
    Secretary Becerra. Right. Yes.
    Senator Capito. You have the ability to withdraw funding if 
it looks like these things are--that is some of the hardest 
things to do, as we know.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. Yes.
    Senator Capito. We served together. Have you withdrawn any 
funding from any of your projects that are moving, so far, is 
it too early to tell?
    Secretary Becerra. We are only 9 months in, and so usually 
2 to 3 years, but you are right that these program managers are 
hired under with the understanding, 2 or 3 years. And that is 
it.
    Senator Capito. And so do you have a firm and affirmative 
oversight plan to make sure that, you know, you are redirecting 
funds if somebody has got an idea that is not going to work let 
us move on? And do you have that oversight plan already in 
place?
    Secretary Becerra. Yes, Dr. Wegrzyn who, by the way, came 
from DARPA, and Dr. Wegrzyn understands that completely. It is 
in the design of the proposals. Everyone understands this is 
not going to be something that is living for a decade, it is 
either, you hit it, you have success, or we are moving on.

                             RETURN TO WORK

    Senator Capito. Okay. I want to ask you about your return 
to work process. COVID is over. It has been over for over a 
year now. The White House Chief of Staff, Jeff Zients, and 
excuse me if I pronounced his name incorrectly, encouraged 
agencies through an order in May 11, 2023, to bring back in-
person work policies. What is your in-person work requirement?
    Secretary Becerra. We are complying with the OMB (Office of 
Management and Budget) Guidance that was----
    Senator Capito. Well, what is that? I don't know what that 
is.
    Secretary Becerra. It essentially says make sure that your 
work plans with all of your employees have a mix. So some are 
full-time, some have some telework ability. And so it is having 
the mix. And what you are traditionally trying to do is have at 
least half of your workforce in at all times.
    Senator Capito. Okay. So approximately what percentage 
would you say is back in the office 5 days a week?
    Secretary Becerra. Well, as I said, we are complying with 
the OMB Guidance.
    Senator Capito. I know, because actually and said that.
    Secretary Becerra. So that means we are essentially there, 
but we are 90,000. We have people throughout the country, we 
have a mix, and unlike other agencies we have folks who are 
medical----
    Senator Capito. Have you negotiated any contracts or with 
the Federal unions that say you have to be in 2 days every 2 
weeks, and a day is 6 hours?
    Secretary Becerra. We have negotiated contracts with the 
unions to make sure that we are complying with the OMB 
Guidance.
    Senator Capito. Well, I mean, are some of those like that, 
because I know that is--we are finding that in other agencies.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes, what we--for example, telework been 
around for a long time. And so there, we may have made 
adjustments to the telework plans that we have. But what we 
have to do is because they are under an employee collective 
bargaining agreement, we have to discuss that with you.
    Senator Capito. Okay. So can we have your collective 
bargaining agreements? I mean, I am sure they are public, so we 
could see what you have negotiated in certain areas, because 
quite honestly, 4 days a week, at 2-week period, 6 hours is a 
day, most of America would begin laughing at that.
    Secretary Becerra. Right. And that is not something that 
you have for the 90,000 people in the workforce. But let me see 
what I can do as far as providing you some of that information.
    Senator Capito. All right. And then in the--well, I think 
my time is up. So I will let these guys go ahead. Thank you.
    Secretary Becerra. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Kennedy.

                             HHS EMPLOYEES

    Senator Kennedy. Mr. Secretary, how many employees does the 
Department of Health and Human Services have?
    Secretary Becerra. Roughly 90,000, Senator.
    Senator Kennedy. And your testimony is that half are back 
in the office full-time and half aren't?
    Secretary Becerra. The OMB Guidance essentially calls for a 
process where we have physically----
    Senator Kennedy. I understand the OMB Guidance.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Kennedy. Is it your testimony that half are back, 
of those 90,000 are back in the office full-time and half 
aren't?
    Secretary Becerra. My testimony is that we are in 
compliance with the OMB Guidance on how we handle the 
workforce.
    Senator Kennedy. Is it your testimony that half of the 
90,000 are back in the office full-time and half aren't?
    Secretary Becerra. Again, my testimony is that we are 
complying with the OMB Guidance, like, we can make sure you 
know what the guidance is, so you know what we are complying--
--
    Senator Kennedy. I do know what the guidance is, I am just 
trying to understand how you have implemented it, what 
percentage of your employees are back in the office full time?
    Secretary Becerra. I could try to get that information back 
to you, because we have a mix.
    Senator Kennedy. You don't know?
    Secretary Becerra. I came to talk about the budget, but I 
can try to get----
    Senator Kennedy. You don't have any idea of how many of 
your 90,000 people are back in the office full-time?
    Secretary Becerra. I could tell you the types of mix of 
employment that we have----
    Senator Kennedy. Yes. Well, that is what I am asking. You 
have got 90,000 employees.
    Secretary Becerra. That is right.
    Senator Kennedy. How many are back in the office full-time 
what percentage? You don't know?
    Secretary Becerra. And as I said, this is a budget hearing, 
I came to talk about the budget.
    Senator Kennedy. If you don't know. You don't know how many 
of your people are back in the office full time.
    Secretary Becerra. I can get back to you Senator, I could 
get you as best I can a response to that particular question, 
but I came here to talk about the President's budget.

                           MEDICARE ADVANTAGE

    Senator Kennedy. Why is Medicare Advantage so popular?
    Secretary Becerra. I am sorry?
    Senator Kennedy. Why is Medicare Advantage so popular?
    Secretary Becerra. Why is Medicare Advantage so popular? 
You will have to help me with what do you mean by that?
    Senator Kennedy. You don't know what Medicare Advantage is?
    Secretary Becerra. Absolutely, I know what Medicare 
Advantage, but why so popular----
    Senator Kennedy. Yes. What is it so popular?
    Secretary Becerra. Is there some survey that you are 
talking about, or what?
    Senator Kennedy. Yes about--I deal in numbers.
    Secretary Becerra. Okay.
    Senator Kennedy. About half of our seniors who qualify for 
Medicare choose Medicare Advantage, don't they?
    Secretary Becerra. That is actually more than half?
    Senator Kennedy. Okay. And why is that, that makes it 
popular, right?
    Secretary Becerra. Medicare Advantage today this is the 
first year that we have seen more individuals select plans in 
the Medicare Advantage and it is----
    Senator Kennedy. Why is it so popular?
    Secretary Becerra. Again, when you say ``popular'' I have 
heard many Medicare beneficiaries who are complaining about 
being stuck at a Medicare Advantage plan----
    Senator Kennedy. Well, is it because the average person, 
average senior on Medicare Advantage pays $2,400 less in 
premiums on Medicare Advantage as opposed to traditional 
Medicare, plus gets more services, like dental, and vision, in 
many respects, could that have something to do with; do you 
think?
    Secretary Becerra. I am assuming that you have seen some 
polling or surveys that give you some of those answers, I have 
heard many, many things that are said about----
    Senator Kennedy. No. I am seeing the facts. Are you telling 
me that people on Medicare Advantage don't save money in 
premiums and co-pays over traditional Medicare?
    Secretary Becerra. I can get you some do----
    Senator Kennedy. Is that your testimony?
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. But I wouldn't have--no 
doubt that some pay more.
    Senator Kennedy. I am talking about the average.
    Secretary Becerra. Again, I don't know what numbers you are 
referring to, but I am more than willing to discuss those with 
you.
    Senator Kennedy. I am looking at the numbers that your 
Department puts out.
    Secretary Becerra. Okay. Then what are those numbers, 
Senator?
    Senator Kennedy. The numbers say that the average person on 
Medicare Advantage----
    Secretary Becerra. I am asking you if you can show me the 
numbers.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Pays $2,400 less in premiums 
and co-pays and gets extra benefits; is that right?
    Secretary Becerra. My understanding is they are also 
restricted in the doctors they have access to, the hospitals 
they have access to.
    Senator Kennedy. You are trying to destroy Medicare 
Advantage; aren't you?
    Secretary Becerra. We have actually provided an increase in 
funding for Medicare Advantage.
    Senator Kennedy. No. You haven't you cut--you cut funding 
in 2023 by 1.1 percent----
    Secretary Becerra. That is absolutely incorrect.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. And you--next year you are 
proposing a 0.16 percent cut, and in fact the Medicare----
    Secretary Becerra. That is absolutely incorrect.
    Senator Kennedy. That is not incorrect.
    Secretary Becerra. That is absolutely incorrect.
    Senator Kennedy. And in fact, that the Medicare Trustee----
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, saying it doesn't make it true.
    Senator Kennedy. The Medicare Trustee said that you have 
lost your mind, my words not theirs.
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, saying something doesn't make 
it true. The dollar amount that we are giving to health 
insurance companies----
    Senator Kennedy. You have cut----
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. To secure that has 
increased.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Are you telling me today that 
you have not cut payments to insurers in Medicare Advantage 
last year by 1.1 percent?
    Secretary Becerra. We are giving Medicare Advantage----
    Senator Kennedy. Are you denying that?
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Health insurance 
companies----
    Senator Kennedy. Are you denying that?
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Under Medicare Advantage 
are receiving more money this year than they got last year for 
Medicare.
    Senator Kennedy. You cut them by 1.1 percent----
    Secretary Becerra. That is not a cut, Senator.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. And you are proposing another 
0.1 percent cut. In fact, I mean you and President Biden say 
you will not touch a hair on the head of Medicare, but that 
is--you are trying to destroy Medicare Advantage, and I mean--
--
    Secretary Becerra. Actually the President's budget extends 
the life of Medicare----
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Look--look--look----
    Secretary Becerra [continuing]. Beyond your and my 
lifetime.
    Senator Kennedy. Look at the numbers. In 2023, under your 
watch, Medicare Advantage patients saw on average a 12 percent 
increase in deductible and a 5 percent----
    Secretary Becerra. The insurance companies did that not us, 
Senator.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. In premiums. And Florida, and 
Utah, and Wyoming, saw their premiums go up 50 percent----
    Secretary Becerra. Okay. Senator, blame the insurance 
companies, not us.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Because you cut the 
payments----
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, we did not cut.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. To the insurance companies to 
drive them to traditional Medicare where you can control them 
better; isn't that the case?
    Secretary Becerra. The fiction you are propounding doesn't 
resolve the issue that we have, every year, so far under this 
administration increased the funding for health insurance 
companies who offer these Managed Care Medicare Advantage 
plans.
    Senator Kennedy. Are you----
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
    Now, I will recognize Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Madam Chair, for your 
indulgence.

                         CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE

    Senator Hyde-Smith. Mr. Secretary, Mississippi has one of 
the highest rates of cardiovascular disease and deaths from 
this disease, and the frequency of the disease continues to 
increase. It has been concerning for a very long time. It is 
important that Americans receive cholesterol screenings, and 
appropriate treatments to manage this cardiovascular disease to 
prevent further complications that could lead to sicker 
outcomes or even death.
    The fiscal year 2023 Labor HHS Report included language 
requesting a report, which was supposed to be completed in the 
summer of 2023, on cardiovascular disease, and the implications 
associated with postponing, delaying, or being provided sub-
treatments. This remains a critical issue in Mississippi and a 
critical issue across the United States. I was very 
disappointed that the Department is nearly a year late in 
providing that information to this committee as it was 
instructed to do. Can you tell me the status of this report and 
how do you explain why the Department did not comply with the 
deadline?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, I am going to confess to you, I 
don't have that information in front of me, and I apologize. So 
how about we do this? Let me huddle with the team, and I will 
do it as quickly as you would like, and we can get back to you 
on that particular answer. I don't want to give you 
misinformation. But I wish I could give you something. And I 
don't know if I have any of that in my notes. So rather than 
try to wing it, let me get back to you on that, because it is 
an important question.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. But you have no idea why it was late, 
or that it was even late?
    Secretary Becerra. I am sorry. I don't know. I can't tell 
you that I remember my team saying to me we are going to be 
late. And so rather than give you--again, rather than try to 
dance, let me get back to you as quickly as possible.
    And Madam Chair, if the Senator would like, we could put my 
response on the record.
    Senator Baldwin. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]

    HHS agrees with the appropriations committees that cardiovascular 
disease (CVD) is an important condition affecting the lives of millions 
of Americans and results in substantial costs to our healthcare system. 
This is evidenced by the fact that heart disease--which is just one 
form of CVD--is the leading cause of death in the United States. ASPE's 
original analysis of traditional Medicare claims data found spending on 
CVD-related hospitalizations alone exceeded $21 billion in 2019.
    CVD is a broad topic that requires ASPE to review the extensive 
literature on the disease and develop a research strategy to analyze 
Medicare claims data. ASPE used Medicare claims data in the report 
because the Medicare population is at high risk for poor CVD outcomes. 
ASPE is working diligently with available data and existing research 
findings in the literature to prepare a detailed report describing: (1) 
CVD in the general population and its adverse health outcomes, (2) risk 
factors for CVD, (3) prevention and treatment options, (4) disparities 
in disease burden and potential barriers to accessing optimal 
treatment, (5) economic costs associated with untreated/undertreated 
CVD, (6) the prevalence of CVD among beneficiaries in the traditional 
Medicare program, (7) utilization and costs associated with CVD-related 
care for traditional Medicare beneficiaries, and (8) a brief overview 
of some of the key program and initiatives supported by the Department 
that specifically address CVD. These topics were intended to address 
the Committee's broad interests in better understanding the growing 
prevalence of CVD and the economic burden of this disease, with an 
added focus on the traditional Medicare program. The breadth and depth 
of the analytic work undertaken by ASPE impacted HHS' ability to 
provide the report in a timeframe consistent with the committee's 
request. HHS expects to transmit the report by Summer 2024 and will 
publish the report at https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/cvd-report-congress.

    Senator Hyde-Smith. I would like a response to that pretty 
quickly.

                               TELEHEALTH

    As we look at what may be the most consequential year for 
telehealth policy to date, we cannot overstate the urgency for 
Congress and CMS to act on Medicare legislative and regulatory 
telehealth flexibilities.
    Our Nation's healthcare systems and providers need clarity. 
We need stability to implement and maintain the operational and 
clinical practices needed to ensure seamless quality care for 
millions of Medicare beneficiaries nationwide. I strongly 
encourage CMS to work alongside Congress by continuing to share 
relevant telehealth data with members of Congress, and staff, 
as well as continuing to engage with stakeholders through 
public calls on pertinent healthcare issues. How actively will 
CMS engage with Congress this year on telehealth policies?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, we will be camped outside your 
door, if you would like, because this one is very important to 
us. As we discussed in our previous Q&A, telehealth is 
indispensable, especially in rural communities. It avoids the 
need for transportation. It makes it possible to have immediate 
access to a professional healthcare provider, and we don't want 
to lose that.
    And so we are at your door, ready to provide technical 
assistance as you all make decisions on what kind of 
flexibilities to continue to give us in working with the 
States.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. And as you know, many of those 
flexibilities that allow Medicare providers to offer telehealth 
expire at the end of this year.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. And Congress plans to address these 
policies but may not finalize updates until the close of the 
end of the year. Will CMS be able to create a regulatory 
pathway to allow for immediate and seamless updates to policies 
when the law is updated?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, I don't think you are going to 
like the answer here because regulatory work, as you know, 
takes more than just months to implement and actually put on 
the ground and operate. We are absolutely counting on Congress 
before the end of this calendar year to come up with some 
telehealth solutions, because we won't have the kinds of 
flexibilities that you or I would want to see if we get past 
December 2024, without Congress acting to extend those 
flexibilities.
    We will do whatever we can at the regulatory level, but 
more importantly at the executive level where we have any 
discretion, but as you know, the reason you all had to pass 
these extensions on flexibilities was because we didn't have a 
lot of executive discretion on what to do.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you. My time----
    Senator Baldwin. All right. Just to give you a quick status 
update, we are hearing that there are at least two other 
members who are desperately trying to get into this hearing to 
ask you questions. I will entertain a third round.
    Secretary Becerra. Lucky me.
    Senator Baldwin. Lucky you. And if they do not appear 
before the end of our third round, we will let you go.

                         CMS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT

    So I want to focus for a moment, on the Centers for 
Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS. This agency provides 
services for millions of Americans through Medicare, Medicaid, 
and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program), Wisconsin 
families and seniors rely on these programs, and I believe that 
we need to do everything that we can to ensure that they are 
working effectively to provide the care that our constituents 
deserve.
    Funding for program management at CMS was flat for almost a 
decade. Can you describe the negative impact that not investing 
in program management activities has on Wisconsin families and 
seniors, and American families and seniors?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, thank you for the question. I 
know everyone always focuses on what we do on the ground to 
help families, and that is absolutely what our government's 
local, State, Federal have to do is be there for folks when 
they need us. The folks who are there when they need us, are 
the folks who often get neglected when it comes time to 
providing budgetary authority.
    So we provide money, Congress provided--and I was here for 
24 years as a member, so I remember those days, we would always 
fund the program, but we would neglect or skimp on providing 
funding for the personnel. CMS is essentially in that strait, 
for the last 13 years its budget actually has gone down, at the 
same time its population that it serves, Medicare, Medicaid, 
CHIP, ACA (Affordable Care Act), Marketplace, has gone up by 
over 40 percent.
    So it is going in totally opposite directions. Every year 
we are doing more. We are negotiating--CMS is negotiating the 
drug pricing, CMS is helping States address the Medicaid 
redetermination so people don't lose their coverage. CMS is 
having to deal with all these determinations about whether 
Alzheimer's treatments or cancer treatments will get covered 
under Medicare.
    CMS is a workhorse, but it is not getting fed. The people 
that are doing all the work, unfortunately, are stressed, so 
anything we can do to ensure that we can continue to have good 
production would help. And by the way, I haven't even mentioned 
cybersecurity CMS, when Change Health suffered that cyber 
attack, CMS, through Medicare and Medicaid, was there to make 
sure doctors and hospitals still got money even though all the 
systems, electronic systems had gone down, that was CMS.
    Senator Baldwin. You have mentioned many of the functions 
that CMS participates in. Can you speak also to nursing home 
inspections?
    Secretary Becerra. Well, it is--I hate to say it publicly, 
but I think every American who has their loved one, their mom, 
their grandfather, their disabled brother in a nursing home 
expects that there is going to be quality care. One of the ways 
we ensure quality care is to do inspections, to do the surveys 
to make sure that these facilities are providing real care to 
Americans that we love.
    Unfortunately, the resources that we have received, 
especially in the administrative side of the budget that don't 
allow us to do the surveys 100 percent, we did over two-thirds 
of the surveys that we needed to of the nursing homes 
throughout the country, but the funding has continued to go 
down. I fear that we are going to continue to drop in the 
number of surveys of nursing homes that we are doing which, one 
of these days is going to result in some nursing home being in 
the news because some tragedy happens, and it is a nursing home 
that we didn't have an opportunity to inspect. That should not 
happen. And if we had the resources, and in a small drop in the 
bucket, of all the money that you all provide CMS; that would 
help us make sure that nursing homes are safe.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Shaheen.

                                INSULIN

    Senator Shaheen. Excuse me. Thank you, Madam Chair, and 
Ranking Member Capito. Secretary Becerra, thank you for being 
here today, and for all of your work on a daily basis, and I am 
sorry I missed your opening remarks, but I very much appreciate 
your mentioning insulin and the need to address insulin 
affordability.
    And despite the efforts in the last year's legislation, the 
Inflation Reduction Act to cap out-of-pocket costs for insulin 
for Medicare, at $35 a person, we still see challenges with 
affordability for insulin. Can you speak to that and what we 
are seeing on the private market compared to Medicare, now that 
we have capped the cost?
    Secretary Becerra. And Senator, I know despite many of your 
efforts to include the $35 cap on insulin for everyone in 
America, the bill ultimately had to get pared down to only 
provide it to the 66 million Americans who receive Medicare 
benefits. The President, in his budget, calls for extending 
that to everyone in America, not just those on Medicare, and 
what we are finding is that in some spaces some of the 
manufacturers of insulin have said that they would reduce the 
cost to commercial private insurance plans to $35, but not 
everyone in America is experiencing the savings that comes from 
having access to insulin at $35 a month.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. And in fact, then we have 
companies like Nova Nordisk who said that they were going to 
reduce the cost for Levemir, and then now they have taken 
Levemir totally off the market after saying they were going to 
reduce the cost. So there is some disingenuousness in what we 
are hearing from some of the providers.
    And on a similar note, I have heard from constituents about 
ongoing shortages of insulin, Humalog and NovoLog. We heard 
from Walter Chapman who is a 70-year-old constituent in Dover, 
New Hampshire, he visited three different pharmacies, he called 
several others in surrounding towns before he could finally 
find his insulin in stock. And he wasn't calling small, 
independent pharmacies, he was calling CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, 
with big footprints. So what are we going to do to address 
these shortages, and how can we make it more transparent so 
people know what they are getting?
    Secretary Becerra. And this is where work is ongoing. We 
have a proposal that we have submitted to try to have more 
transparency in the pharmaceutical industry, because it is so 
difficult to know what is going on behind the curtain.
    There is no reason why insulin should be in shortage 
anywhere, because it is so easy to produce, and so inexpensive 
to produce, but that is the game that is played, and that is 
why the President continues to want to get behind the curtain. 
That is why it is so indispensable that you gave us the 
authority, by law, to negotiate, to drive down the prices of 
some of the most expensive medicines under Medicare.
    Senator Shaheen. And in fact we have legislation in the 
Senate, Senator Collins and I do, Senators Warnock and Kennedy; 
that would cap the cost, out-of-pocket cost for insulin as well 
as dealing with availability. I hope that we will see 
leadership bring it to the floor this year, because I think we 
have the votes to pass it.

                                TITLE X

    On another note, as you know Title X funding is critical to 
ensuring family planning providers can keep their doors open in 
States, particularly States like New Hampshire where abortion 
remains legal but where we have many small providers, and we 
have State legislators that are preventing those small 
providers from getting the funding they need.
    I appreciate Health and Human Services working with family 
planning providers in New Hampshire, but can you tell us what 
else you are thinking about in terms of helping keep those 
folks in business?
    Secretary Becerra. So most every time I travel across the 
country I will visit a family planning program, because they 
are indispensable to so many families. They do more-- some 
people think all they do is provide care to women--they provide 
care to families, family planning. The President's budget, as 
you are probably aware, tries to boost funding under Title X, 
another $100 million so we get back to where we used to be in 
some of the funding levels for these programs, to over $350 
million. That is going to be important because families are 
desperate, desperate for the kind of care that helps them have 
good outcomes in all of their family planning.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, that is right. And it is unfortunate 
that this is an issue that has become all about abortion 
because the family planning providers in New Hampshire serve 
thousands of women, they provide well check visits, they 
provide cancer screenings, they provide STD (sexually 
transmitted disease) screenings, and without them we would have 
so many people who would not be able to get care at all. So you 
are absolutely right. And I appreciate what the Department is 
doing. Thank you.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Britt.

                                ABORTION

    Senator Britt. Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate it. Mr. 
Secretary, thank you for being here today; obviously, we are 
here to talk about budgets. I have heard a lot of talk about 
abortion today, and in particular, when I am looking at your 
budget, obviously, there was no mention of the Hyde Amendment 
to be in there. So I want to confirm that you believe taxpayer 
dollars should go to be able to fund abortions?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, thanks for the question. The 
President has made it clear he wants to remove the Hyde 
Amendment from the budget proposals, and that is what he has 
done.
    Senator Britt. Okay. So when we are talking about that, 
Senator Kennedy asked you a question, and you all were talking 
about your answer kept being Roe v. Wade, and Roe v. Wade, and 
I want that to be the law of the land. So let us just stipulate 
that your hypothetical is the truth. And so if Roe v. Wade were 
the law of the land, and a woman wanted to take the life of her 
child the day before her child was due or the day after her 
child was due, then you support her ability to choose to do 
that; is that correct?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, again, I will say what I said 
to Senator----
    Senator Britt. No, no, no, no, no, no. I have stipulated, 
Roe v. Wade is part is as law of the land, so, there are seven 
States in this country and the District of Columbia, that allow 
you to take the life of a child the moment before a child is 
born, so clearly you support--you support a woman's right to 
choose to do that?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, the example you gave is 
fiction, as far as I know. Can you give me a particular 
example?
    Senator Britt. Well, if it actually is fiction, then why 
not say, no. That is out of the realm of possibility that no 
woman would think to be able to do that? Because the truth is, 
if you say that taxpayer dollars should go to fund abortions, 
then you are saying that my taxpayer dollar should go to fund 
something like that. And if that is unthinkable, then why don't 
you just say it is unthinkable? And in fact, then we can just 
take it off the table and not allow that to be legal.
    Because the truth is when you do that, I am going to read 
this to you, ``In particular, when these abortions occur, the 
gruesome surgical techniques involve crushing, dismembering, 
and removal of the fetal body. So, they actually deliver the 
baby breech, and then have to put scissors up the baby's neck, 
open it up, and then suck out the brain so that they are able 
to get the head through the birth canal.''
    And so, I just--then there is also the opportunity to go in 
and actually put a needle in that child's heart, and kill that 
child. If that child is then delivered alive, do you believe 
that that child on that table that we should be able to save 
that child? Or do you believe that our taxpayer dollars give 
this woman the right to say, don't save my child? I just think 
when we are talking about this and you are saying so boldly no 
taxpayer dollars go, and you actually won't answer the question 
when it comes to Roe v. Wade.
    And I am saying I will stipulate that your hypothetical is 
the case. There are still seven States in this country and the 
District of Columbia that allowed us to do that. We are one of 
like seven nations that allow that to take place on our soil. 
Two of the other nations are North Korea and China. And I just 
believe when we are talking about budgets, I want you to know 
where I am coming from, and why I believe wholeheartedly, with 
every ounce of me that we have to preserve the Hyde Amendment.

                            MATERNAL HEALTH

    And on that note, moving to maternal health, when we look 
at this, Alabama knows this issue all too well when it comes to 
maternal mortality and the crisis we have in this country. 
Nationally, the number of reported pregnancies related to 
deaths in the United States increased from 7.2 deaths per 100 
live births in 1987, to 17.6 deaths per 100,000 live births in 
2019. We are moving in the wrong direction.
    Obviously, with more resources, and technology, and 
availability, we should be able to turn this in the opposite 
direction. The resources made available by HRSA's Title V 
Maternal and Child Health Services Block Grant are essential to 
reducing maternal mortality rates and providing better access 
to quality healthcare and services. Most of this vital funding 
goes to States to help them address the priority health needs 
in their State.
    Mr. Secretary, with this happening, why does your budget 
request actually deduce and take funding away from the Title V 
Maternal and Child Health Services Grants that actually go to 
the States?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, we actually increased funding 
for maternal health. We have some $2 billion in our budget for 
maternal health, and the----
    Senator Britt. So the actual grants, though, went down. The 
number for the grants went down?
    Secretary Becerra. We would have to take a look at that, 
because we have actually continued to provide support and for 
maternal mortality and morbidity programs. We are doing more. 
We have some $360-plus million in this budget for--to address 
the maternal mortality and morbidity rate.
    Senator Britt. Well, I would like to actually work with you 
on that, because obviously, Alabama, this is a significant 
challenge. We have the highest maternal mortality rate in the 
Nation. My reading of your budget is that that number actually 
goes down, even though your overall budget goes up. So let us 
have a conversation about that because we need that money in 
the States. It looks like you have a project-driven basis where 
a lot of that money is going. These grants help us, 
particularly in our rural communities, to make sure that we can 
get the care to these women that they need. And so, I would 
like you to commit to working with me on taking a look at that 
and making sure that States have the money they need to make an 
impact.
    Secretary Becerra. I commit to follow up with you on that.
    Senator Britt. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Should no one else arrive, I am 
going to recognize Senator Capito for her last round and then 
conclude the hearing if another member does appear. Okay, 
Senator Capito, and then I will allow both of the--since we 
have had multiple rounds, I will allow that.
    So, go ahead, Senator Capito.

                          ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE

    Senator Capito. Yes. Mr. Secretary, I will not have you 
answer these, but I am going to put these on your radar and 
maybe we can get follow-up in written. First of all, I want to 
talk about the Alzheimer's disease workforce, we know that this 
is a challenge as you have discussed in many other areas. We 
know that half of our primary care physicians do not feel like 
they are adequately prepared to care for individuals living 
with Alzheimer's and other dementia. So with joining with 
Senator Klobuchar, we have introduced the ADAPT Act which would 
help a--it would provide grants to organizations to set up 
dementia-specific project, ECHO programs that have been 
successful, in a small way, I believe emanating from New 
Mexico, to educate and support primary care providers in 
detecting, diagnosing, treating, and caring, so that is an 
issue of great importance to me, and if we could get a reaction 
there?
    And then the other thing; and this is very brief, Avian 
flu. I am a big believer in preparedness. We weren't ready for 
COVID as well as we could have been, and should have been, we 
certainly have got lessons learned here. And we have seen where 
Avian flu has been passed from a--I believe steer or beef 
cattle----
    Secretary Becerra. It is dairy----
    Senator Capito [continuing]. To a human individual.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Capito. I am just putting that on your radar, so it 
is an area of concern for me.
    Thank you very much for coming.
    Secretary Becerra. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator, Britt.

                              RURAL HEALTH

    Senator Britt. Thank you so much, Madam Chair. And I really 
appreciate it.
    Mr. Secretary you have said by helping rural hospitals stay 
open we are helping residents of rural areas get the care they 
need close to home, having access to care nearby is not only 
more convenient but it also lends to better health outcomes and 
boost local economies. I want to say I couldn't agree with you 
more. I certainly hope that you mean that, and I assume that 
you would confirm that you do.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. And any ideas you have because 
there are a lot of healthcare facilities in rural America that 
are on the verge of closing.
    Senator Britt. Yes.
    Secretary Becerra. Once they close it is tough to reopen. 
So we are more than willing to work with any of you who are 
interested in that.

                         PROVIDER RELIEF FUNDS

    Senator Britt. That is wonderful because that is actually 
the commitment I want from you today. As you know, there are a 
very small number of new rural hospitals that opened in 2020 
just before the country shut down, and one of these hospitals 
is actually located in Alabama. So Thomasville Regional Medical 
Center was among the unfortunate few who were deemed ineligible 
for Provider Relief funds due to the formula's reliance on the 
figures from 2019, and you are well aware of this, as you know.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes.
    Senator Britt. Throughout your tenure, you know, many of my 
colleagues, Representative Sewell there on the other side, the 
other chamber, and on the other side of the aisle has talked to 
you about this, and has asked for your commitment in budget 
hearings just like this, and received it to working with us to 
find solutions for this group of needy hospitals.
    These members received a commitment from you and their 
offices to ensure that these hospitals received proper Federal 
assistance via the Provider Relief Fund, and so my assumption 
is that you stand by that testimony. And my question would be, 
what actions did you take to ensure Thomasville Regional 
Medical Center received adequate Provider Relief funds?
    Secretary Becerra. Thomasville, like many of the facilities 
that have applied have to meet the criteria that Congress set 
forth for us to be able to fund them during the--with the 
Provider Relief dollars that were made available. Where we had 
some flexibility, some discretion, we took them to try to help 
some of the facilities that were clearly hurting and in 
desperate need, especially those that were providing services 
to folks who are in underserved areas.
    But our discretion, our flexibility is limited by what 
Congress set forth as the guidelines for distributing the 
dollars. Too many facilities, and I suspect Thomasville being 
one of them, fell within that scope where it became difficult 
to reach them because of the criteria----
    Senator Britt. So what do we do? I mean because there has 
to be a pathway to help, because just as you mentioned they are 
on the verge of closing, and if you look at some of the things 
that we have seen, they have--the Harvard School of Public 
Health put out that this congressional district has the lowest 
life expectancy in the country. And so if we are not going to 
help hospitals like this that provide people access to care 
within their communities, you know, your very first statement 
that I wholeheartedly agree with, then what are we, what are we 
doing? I mean this is what we are here for. So you are telling 
me why we can't. Tell me how we can, that is what I want to 
know.
    Secretary Becerra. Yes. And we can, if you all hadn't swept 
up close to $5 billion that we had in COVID relief dollars, we 
could have perhaps come to you and asked you for more 
flexibility to use some of that money for some of those 
providers under the Provider Relief Fund. We are out of money 
in the Provider Relief Fund, and we often----
    Senator Britt. So there was about $7 billion left, right? 
Is that right?
    Secretary Becerra. At this stage, no, that----
    Senator Britt. Right. But when that occurred?
    Secretary Becerra. It well left in the sense that it had 
not yet been obligated, but it was already destined to go to 
provide different services, it was then swept up by Congress, 
and now it is no longer available.
    Senator Britt. So what can we do?
    Secretary Becerra. Well, you can always try to re-up the 
Provider Relief----
    Senator Britt. Well, no, I mean what can you do in your 
role right now, what can you commit to me to help keep this 
hospital open? Or what resources are available, what thought 
process do you have? You obviously sit in the big chair, so 
don't tell me what you don't have, tell me what you do have and 
how we can get that to a path of success?
    Secretary Becerra. Well, the problem is if I don't have the 
resources to make things happen, there is only so much I can 
tell them we can do, because what they want is money. They are 
not interested in smiles, they are interested in money. If I 
don't have money in my pocket, you all swept it up, it makes it 
tough for me to offer----
    Senator Britt. Do you have any money that could work to go 
towards that at all?
    Secretary Becerra. Senator, as you know how the way things 
work, you tell me where I can spend the money.
    Senator Britt. Okay. So what would I need to advocate for 
right here in this budget to help move that forward?
    Secretary Becerra. There is two things you can do, pass 
legislation that gives us more flexibility in using some of the 
money you have already given us, which probably would gain some 
opposition from folks who say, wait a minute that is already 
money that we are going to use, and you are send it off to 
somebody else, so you are going to have to deal with that. But 
you could do that give us more flexibility with money we do 
have which we don't have flexibility to use, for example, with 
a program like Thomasville.
    Or you can re-up a program, like the Provider Relief Fund 
that has some resources so that when Thomasville comes to us, I 
can say we now have some resources that we can provide to you.
    Senator Britt. Will you commit to having--continuing this 
conversation with me, the two of us.
    Secretary Becerra. Absolutely.
    Senator Britt. Thank you.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    Senator Baldwin. That will end our hearing today. I want to 
thank my fellow committee members for their thoughtful 
conversation.
    And thank you, to you, Secretary Becerra.
    For any Senators who wish to ask additional questions, 
questions for the record will be due on April 23 at 5 p.m. And 
the hearing record will also remain open until then for members 
who wish to submit additional materials for the record.
    [The following questions were not asked at the hearing, but 
were submitted to the Department for response subsequent to the 
hearing:]
            Questions Submitted to Secretary Xavier Becerra
              Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Baldwin
    Question. Recently, the Environmental Protection Agency took a 
significant step that will require municipal water systems to virtually 
eliminate per-and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) from U.S. drinking 
water. According to the CDC, virtually all Americans have measurable 
amounts of PFAS in their blood today, which can be linked to many 
severe health outcomes including cancer and birth complications. 
Earlier this year the CDC recommended that physicians consider offering 
more blood tests for individuals who may have had high levels of 
exposure to PFAS.
    How is HHS working with providers and public health departments to 
advise when blood testing is necessary?
    Answer. On January 18, 2024, the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease 
Registry (ATSDR) released PFAS: Information for Clinicians. This 
document provides updated information for clinicians to consider when 
seeing patients who have concerns about per- and polyfluoroalkyl 
substances (PFAS) exposure or possible health effects.
    In deciding whether to order PFAS testing, the document recommends 
clinicians consider an individual's exposure history, including results 
of PFAS testing from the patient's water supply, food sources, or other 
exposure routes, and whether results from PFAS blood tests can inform 
exposure reduction and health promotion.
    CDC has shared the updated guidance with medical and healthcare 
provider associations, health departments, and partners. CDC/ATSDR will 
continue to review the science and periodically update this 
information.
    Question. Is HHS focusing on the most vulnerable populations, such 
as expectant mothers and babies?
    Answer. PFAS: Information for Clinicians provides information for 
providers to consider when addressing PFAS exposures in populations 
vulnerable to chemical exposures, including pregnant women and 
children. ATSDR also supports 10 regional Pediatric Environmental 
Health Specialty Units (PEHSU) that advise parents, child caregivers, 
and healthcare providers on protecting and caring for children 
potentially exposed to harmful chemicals, including PFAS. Regional 
PEHSU units respond to requests for information, offer advice on 
environmentally related health effects for pregnant women and children, 
and provide education to healthcare providers, other health 
professionals, and community members.
    The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) 
supports research to characterize and better understand the possible 
health effects of exposure to PFAS chemicals, with active support 
toward studies related to pregnancy and perfluoroalkyl substances. 
NIEHS grantees are exploring how exposure to PFAS during pregnancy and 
through midlife may alter cardiovascular disease risk. Other studies 
are exploring the effects of environmental exposure to PFAS/PFOS on 
children who may have been exposed prenatally. In one example, 
researchers are studying bone development in children, who may have 
been exposed to PFAS during gestation, and assessing how vitamin D and 
calcium status may impact those exposures.
    Question. If someone is found to have high levels of exposure to 
PFAS through a blood test, what kind of treatments or therapies are 
available to mitigate the potential negative health outcomes of that 
exposure?
    Answer. When patients have concerns about PFAS or other 
environmental exposures, clinicians can help address these concerns by 
actively listening and providing practical advice. Clinicians play an 
important role in helping patients identify and reduce exposures and in 
promoting standard age-appropriate preventive care measures for 
physical health, mental health, and wellness (e.g., Bright Futures and 
U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommendations).
    No approved medical treatments are available to remove PFAS from 
the body. Based on information from both a patient's PFAS exposure 
history and the patient's health history, clinicians can collaborate 
with patients to develop individualized care plans. Usual standards of 
care are appropriate to apply to any signs or symptoms of disease a 
patient might exhibit.
    Question. A few weeks ago a dairy worker in Texas tested positive 
for H5N1, or Avian flu, which has been devastating to wild birds and 
poultry around the world. Eight states have now detected the virus in 
dairy herds, which is concerning because we have not seen this virus 
affect cattle before.
    How is HHS coordinating with USDA to monitor the spread among dairy 
cows and in particular, how is HHS providing guidance to dairy farmers 
to keep themselves safe from exposure?
    Answer. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) works 
closely with our Federal partners, including the Administration for 
Strategic Preparedness and Response (ASPR), the U.S. Department of 
Agriculture (USDA), the Office of Pandemic Preparedness and Response 
Policy (OPPR), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to ensure a 
coordinated response to the H5N1 outbreak in cattle. CDC and USDA are 
integrated into the U.S. Government Joint Unified Coordination Group 
Response Structure. CDC has liaisons from USDA, ASPR, and FDA 
integrated into CDC's incident command structure, and CDC communicates 
on an ad-hoc basis to share technical information across relevant 
agencies.
    CDC is committed to protecting the health and safety of people who 
may have a greater risk of exposure to H5N1 through contact with 
infected animals or environments contaminated by infected animals.
    Moreover, CDC continues to work closely with state health 
departments in states with infected dairy cattle. State health 
departments are working with their local health departments and other 
community partners to support monitoring for symptoms of H5N1 and 
testing workers based on CDC guidance.
    FDA has been working with deliberate speed on a wide range of 
studies looking at milk along all stages of production--on the farm, 
during processing, and on retail shelves--using well-established 
methodologies used previously to confirm pasteurization effectiveness 
for known pathogens. FDA and other U.S. Federal partners have been hard 
at work quickly setting up these first-of-their-kind studies and we're 
encouraged that initial gold-standard egg inoculation test results show 
that pasteurization is effective in inactivating HPAI virus. The Agency 
is also temporarily expanding its biosecurity and planning approach to 
inspections. We are applying this established biosecurity approach, as 
informed by previous experience with HPAI in egg and poultry 
facilities, to all farms with livestock and/or poultry (cattle, swine, 
chickens, turkeys and other less common species), egg farms, and 
produce farms with livestock.
    FDA has implemented four concrete actions to achieve our goals:
    1. Following our already established guidance that has historically 
been used to control the spread of HPAI.
    2. FDA will contact APHIS and state veterinarians to determine when 
a specific on farm visit by the agency is advisable on farms that have 
reported HPAI cases.
    3. Preannouncing on farm activities.
    4. Rescheduling on farm activities as needed to increase the time 
between investigators' contacts with different farms and decrease any 
risk of transmission between farms, based on a case-by-case review. 
Inspections will continue at premises with suspected HPAI, as 
scheduled, when the public health needs require it.
    Question. How are HHS agencies like CDC and NIH coordinating with 
USDA to monitor if and when H5N1 acquires the capacity to spread human-
to-human?
    Answer. Because influenza viruses are constantly changing, CDC 
laboratory staff are continually analyzing viruses for genetic changes 
that could suggest H5N1 might spread more easily to people from animals 
or cause serious illness in humans. CDC labs are working to better 
characterize the virus. Our scientists have completed phenotypic 
testing of antiviral susceptibility, and our analyses confirmed that 
the virus was susceptible to commercially available, FDA-approved 
antiviral treatments. Developing Candidate Vaccine Viruses (CVVs) is a 
key early step in the vaccine development pipeline. Having an effective 
CVV in place for vaccine manufacturers can save up to eight weeks if a 
pandemic vaccine is needed.
    CDC is integrated into the US Government Joint Unified Command 
response structure, with CDC Subject Matter Experts co-leading key 
working groups around epidemiology, data and analytics, and 
communications. CDC is also participating in calls with USDA and FDA 
three times a week. Finally, CDC has liaisons from USDA, ASPR and FDA 
who are integrated into CDC's Avian Influenza incident command 
structure, and we're communicating daily on an ad-hoc basis to share 
technical information.
    The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), 
part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), is assisting with 
surveillance and virus characterization activities as requested by 
state and Federal partners, including USDA. Ongoing work from the 
NIAID-supported CEIRR (Centers of Excellence for Influenza Research and 
Response) Network includes completing characterization and risk 
assessment studies on virus isolated from milk samples and generating 
reagents for further research and response efforts. Information from 
these studies is being shared with other HHS agencies, as well as USDA. 
The NIAID-supported Bacterial and Viral Bioinformatics Resource Center 
(BV-BRC) is working to enable sharing of H5N1 data in the BV-BRC data 
portal. The BV-BRC is also currently working on deploying a 
phylogenetic tree to assist efforts to assess H5N1 virus spread, using 
the most recent viral isolates available in GenBank, the publicly 
available NIH database of annotated genetic sequences. NIAID-supported 
researchers continue to help enable tracking of pathogen evolution 
through Nextstrain, a collection of open-source tools for real-time 
phylogenetic analysis of viral outbreaks.
    NIAID has led NIH efforts to help develop medical countermeasures 
for emerging infectious diseases. These efforts help to inform 
strategies to address avian and other forms of influenza. NIAID is 
currently supporting multiple avian influenza vaccines, including 
several in early-stage clinical trials, as well as therapeutics and 
diagnostics for use across multiple influenza strains. Through the 
NIAID CEIRR Network, NIAID also has supported multidisciplinary and 
collaborative research investigating the natural history, transmission, 
and pathogenesis of influenza including avian influenza. In addition, 
NIAID supports research on the immunology of influenza infections and 
vaccines, including vaccine adjuvant discovery and influenza immune 
epitope discovery related to H5 influenza viruses. NIAID also supports 
development of therapeutics and diagnostics for use across multiple 
influenza strains. These efforts include NIAID intramural research to 
characterize H5N1 isolates in existing models, including organoid and 
animal models; to develop and test potential H5N1 medical 
countermeasures; and to isolate and characterize human antibodies that 
are broadly cross-protective against different avian influenza 
subtypes. Together, these programs provide a domestic and international 
research infrastructure to support an HHS response in the event of 
human-to-human spread of H5N1.
    Question. If human-to-human transmission of H5N1 occurs, are there 
adequate supplies of vaccines and antiviral medications in the 
Strategic National Stockpile to control the spread of this disease? How 
quickly could those doses be made available?
    Answer. While the risk to humans remains low, the Administration 
for Strategic Preparedness and Response (ASPR) does have a number of 
preparedness programs that HHS could leverage if necessary. As always, 
states can request personal protective equipment (PPE) from the 
Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) if needed, supplementing what is 
already commercially available or available in state-managed 
stockpiles. This PPE is available to protect farm workers and others 
who may come in contact with infected animals and includes face 
shields, face masks, goggles, and gowns. ASPR has reminded states of 
this resource should they need it.
    In addition, ASPR has tens of millions of antivirals in the SNS, 
many of which are also available on the consumer market. The antivirals 
are available to treat anyone who may test positive for the virus, and 
as you heard from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 
we are not seeing resistance to these antivirals in the current H5N1 
strain.
    And finally, we have two candidate vaccines that are well-matched 
to the circulating strain of H5N1 through ASPR's pre-pandemic influenza 
preparedness program. Hundreds of thousands of vaccine doses could be 
available in the near future. However, the use of the vaccine will 
require review of the available data and determination of the 
appropriate regulatory path by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). 
Should additional funding be provided, over 100 million doses could be 
manufactured in the coming months. Our flu preparedness program is 
designed to be fast-moving and flexible, and we continue to look for 
ways to innovate. As such, we have requested proposals for an mRNA 
platform for influenza vaccines, which could be integrated into this 
program. We are currently in discussions with companies about these 
proposals and hope to announce more soon.
    Question. If a substantial proportion of the U.S. population needs 
to be immunized against H5N1, what is ASPR's large-scale manufacturing 
capacity for tens of millions of doses of vaccine? How long would it 
take to produce additional doses?
    Answer. ASPR's U.S. National Pre-Pandemic Influenza Vaccine 
Stockpile (NPIVS) program enables response to pre-pandemic influenza 
strains as they evolve. NPIVS works closely with industry partners to 
make and test updated vaccines that match new strains of influenza 
viruses with pandemic potential as they emerge, while at the same time 
supporting manufacturing capacity to allow for large-scale vaccine 
production if needed. Vaccine candidates (CVVs) being developed and 
tested under this preparedness program, in close coordination with 
manufacturers, are expected to match the current strain. When vaccines 
might be available depends on a number of factors, including the strain 
of the influenza virus and whether there is a well-matched CVV. If 
there is limited mutation and the current CVV can be utilized, vaccines 
could start to be available 12-14 weeks after funding is provided. 
However, if significant mutation in the virus is observed and there is 
no longer a well-matched CVV, eight weeks would be required for 
generation of a new CVV that matches a mutated strain, and then 12-14 
weeks after the development of the new CVV, a longer timeline would be 
expected before vaccines could potentially start to be available, 
pending review of all data by the FDA. Efforts to support vaccination 
of a significant proportion of the U.S. population would require 
additional funding. For the CDC Tier 1 population (https://www.cdc.gov/
flu/pandemic-resources/national-strategy/planning-guidance/pandemic-
severities-tier-1.html), 60 million doses of adjuvanted vaccine would 
be required (two doses per person).
    ASPR's NPIVS program stores vaccines in building blocks, including 
antigens that match historical and more recent strains of influenza and 
adjuvants that increase the immune response to vaccine antigens, 
allowing the Federal government to maintain flexibility and quickly 
respond to an avian flu outbreak. Initial reserves can rapidly support 
the vaccination of priority population(s) while large-scale 
manufacturing is ramped up. If needed, ASPR would work with 
manufacturers to ramp up production to make additional vaccine doses 
available.
    Question. The Indian Child Welfare Act was firmly upheld by the 
Supreme Court last year and continues to be a vitally important piece 
of keeping tribal families together. Unfortunately, Native children 
continue to be removed from their homes at disproportionate rates. The 
final fiscal year 2024 bill includes $3 million within the 
Administration for Children and Families to provide assistance to 
states in developing strong partnerships with tribes to better serve 
Native children who come into contact with the child welfare system.
    How is HHS helping State and County child welfare agencies carry 
out their responsibilities under the Indian Child Welfare Act?
    Answer. HHS recognizes that effective implementation of the Indian 
Child Welfare Act (ICWA) is critical to honoring Tribal sovereignty and 
ensuring that American Indian/Alaska Native (AI/AN) children can remain 
connected to their families, cultures, and Tribal communities. We are 
committed to working with our Federal partners at the Department of the 
Interior and the Department of Justice to ensure effective 
implementation of ICWA. At HHS, we provide funding to support state and 
Tribal child welfare programs, as well as grants to strengthen the 
capacity of both state and Tribal courts to oversee child welfare 
cases. We also fund Capacity Building Centers for states, courts, and 
Tribes that offer resources, trainings, and other technical assistance 
relating to ICWA.
    The Children's Bureau Capacity Building Collaborative is comprised 
of the Capacity Building Center for States (CBCS), the Capacity 
Building Center for Tribes (CBCT), and the Capacity Building Center for 
Courts (CBCC). Each individual Center, as well as the Collaborative, 
offers technical assistance around tribal-state relationships. Requests 
for technical assistance can come through the State, the Tribe, or the 
Courts, or jointly in some combination of these Centers. These requests 
for technical assistance have included a variety of topics such as 
ICWA, legal/judicial and court issues, the Child and Family Service 
Reviews (CFSRs), title IV-E agreements, and general improvement of 
tribal-state relationships as well as resource and information sharing. 
The Center for Courts helped facilitate the ICWA Partnership Grantee 
Meeting on January 16-17, 2024, to kick off the new round of ICWA 
partnership grantees and teach selected project management techniques, 
including presentations by JBA evaluators. The Center for Courts and 
Children's Bureau facilitated this event and collaborated with the CIP 
Directors/Coordinators and tribes (grantees) in planning this event.
    One key to ensuring effective implementation of ICWA is to promote 
strong partnerships among state child welfare agencies, Tribes, and 
Courts. In fiscal year (FY) 2023, the Children's Bureau funded five 
State-Tribal Partnership grants for projects in Alaska, Minnesota, 
Nebraska, North Dakota, and Oregon. With the support of the additional 
$3 million provided in the FY 2024 Appropriations bill, the Children's 
Bureau in HHS will fund a cluster of grants for State-Tribal 
Partnerships to Implement Best Practices in Indian Child Welfare. These 
grants will support intergovernmental partnership models to improve 
implementation of child welfare best practices that are culturally 
appropriate for AI/AN children to prevent maltreatment and the removal 
from families and communities, and improve safety, permanency, and 
well-being. Recipients will serve as demonstration sites to design and 
implement projects to effectively implement culturally appropriate best 
practices in Indian child welfare, including measuring improvements in 
child welfare practice, Indian child welfare codes, legal and judicial 
processes, case monitoring, case planning, data collection, in-home 
family preservation services, infrastructure, and systems change. The 
Children's Bureau expects to award six grants, with an award ceiling of 
$500,000 per year for 4 years.
    Question. Almost 7 percent of American adults have been impacted by 
Long COVID. Many have struggled to find the support and services they 
need, in part because our understanding of this condition and what 
works for patients remains limited. The final fiscal year 2024 bill 
includes a $3.5 million increase for the Long COVID Care Network at 
AHRQ, which is working with grantees across the country to expand 
access to care, implement new care delivery models, and support 
providers with Long COVID education and management.
    What is HHS doing to ensure that Americans living with long COVID, 
especially those in rural and underserved communities, have access to 
the care and treatment they need?
    Answer.
  --The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) is funding 
        the AHRQ Long COVID Care Network to expand access to 
        comprehensive, coordinated, and person-centered care for people 
        with Long COVID, particularly underserved populations that are 
        disproportionately impacted by the effects of Long COVID. This 
        initiative funds nine multidisciplinary Long COVID clinics 
        located in different states across the nation to (1) develop 
        and implement new or improved care delivery models, (2) provide 
        services to more people with Long COVID, (3) expand services 
        offered, (4) strengthen care coordination, (5) implement and 
        share best practices for Long COVID management, (6) support the 
        primary care community in Long COVID education and management, 
        (7) evaluate project success, and (8) disseminate project 
        findings. The initiative reaches several underserved and 
        vulnerable communities, including rural, inner-city, low-
        income, and minority populations, and children and adolescents 
        (both normally developing and those with intellectual and 
        developmental disability). In addition to expanded care and 
        services delivered through the multidisciplinary Long COVID 
        clinics, the initiative will expand access to care through 
        primary care education and support activities. Through outreach 
        and dissemination activities, the initiative will increase 
        knowledge and awareness of Long COVID across clinicians, people 
        with Long COVID, and communities nationwide. The $3.5 million 
        increase in FY 2024 will enable AHRQ to add three centers to 
        its Long COVID Care Network.
  --The Indian Health Service (IHS) is working with healthcare 
        providers to support Long COVID care for American Indian and 
        Alaska Native communities by using telehealth and providing 
        technical assistance to tribes. The IHS expanded telehealth by 
        using technology and providing specialists as resources for 
        primary care clinicians in rural and underserved American 
        Indian and Alaska Native populations. Training and support on 
        using the technology and resources are provided to help treat 
        patients with complex conditions, including Long COVID, in 
        their communities.
  --The Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) is working 
        with community health centers across the country to improve 
        Long COVID care for underserved communities, using telehealth 
        and technical assistance. The Telehealth Technology-Enabled 
        Learning Program connects specialists at academic medical 
        centers with primary care clinicians in rural, frontier, and 
        underserved populations, providing evidence-based training and 
        support to help them treat patients with complex conditions in 
        their communities, including Long COVID.
  --The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) maintains an 
        Information for Healthcare Providers webpage on Long COVID. CDC 
        is working with the American Academy of Physical Medicine and 
        Rehabilitation to improve coordination and dissemination of 
        clinical knowledge of recovery and symptom management of Long 
        COVID. CDC also supports continuous learning through Clinician 
        Outreach and Communication Activity (COCA) webinars on Long 
        COVID and in partnership with Project ECHO.
  --The Office of Long COVID Research and Practice of the Office of the 
        Assistant Secretary for Health (OASH) works across HHS 
        Operating and Staff Divisions, interagency Federal partners, 
        and external groups to share resources, identify gaps, and work 
        to identify solutions to the longer-term impacts of COVID-19 
        including Long COVID and associated conditions. OASH is in 
        discussions with primary care professional associations and 
        other government agencies about how to better support primary 
        care clinicians to work with people with Long COVID, including 
        those in rural and underserved communities. Being able to 
        receive Long COVID diagnosis and care at the primary care level 
        will greatly expand access, as many people do not live near 
        Long COVID clinics.
    CDC has partnered with the Family Health Centers of San Diego, 
several academic institutions, and Project Extension for Community 
Healthcare Outcomes (ECHO) to improve care for people with Long COVID, 
myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), and post-
infectious fatiguing illnesses. The CDC-funded program, known as the 
``Long COVID and Fatiguing Illness Recovery Program'', works to develop 
confidence in managing these conditions among primary care providers, 
including those in federally qualified health centers, and share 
promising practices via interactive tele-mentoring sessions and monthly 
webinars. Finally, CDC maintains an Information for Healthcare 
Providers webpage on Long COVID as well as a webpage for Patient Tips.
    Question. Over 100,000 Americans are on the organ transplant 
waitlist. For years, the organ transplant system has been plagued by 
inefficiencies and mismanagement, but Congress and the Biden 
Administration have been working to make important improvements. The 
final fiscal year 2024 bill includes a $23 million increase to 
strengthen and modernize the Organ Procurement and Transplantation 
Network because patients and families deserve to be part of a high 
functioning system.
    What does HRSA hope to accomplish this year in working to modernize 
the organ transplantation system and how will this additional funding 
be used?
    Answer. The additional $23 million provided to HRSA in FY 2024 
allows HRSA to further the goals of improved transparency, performance, 
governance and efficiency of the US transplant system. Specifically, 
HRSA is on pace to establish a new and independent Board of the OPTN, 
including the review and support of changes to the OPTN governance 
structure and by-laws to ensure transparency and accountability. HRSA 
is working to support multiple vendors to improve and strengthen the 
OPTN operations including technology. Our new contract solicitations 
for multiple vendors will be awarded by the end of the fiscal year. 
HRSA has also established a project management function to support 
multi-vendor and multi-stakeholder collaboration, is launching the 
development phase for a modernized organ matching IT system, and is 
bolstering HRSA's oversight and technology staffing to support the OPTN 
modernization.
    Question. The President's Fiscal Year 2025 budget includes an 
increase of over $100 million for the Title X Family Planning Program, 
which provides services for over 2.6 million people. In a post-Roe 
America, where women do not have the freedom to get the care that they 
need, and judges and politicians have been inserted into doctor's 
offices, the Title X Family Planning Program is more important than 
ever.
    What are the consequences of keeping Title X level-funded for 
another year, and what is HHS doing to ensure that the program provides 
the highest standard of care in this environment?
    Answer. The HHS Office of Population Affairs (OPA) will continue 
its commitment to providing, through the Title X family planning 
program, a broad range of services related to achieving pregnancy, 
preventing pregnancy, assisting clients with achieving their desired 
number and spacing of children, as well as its focus on increasing 
access to and quality of comprehensive family planning and related 
preventive healthcare services, especially in areas with low and 
limited access.
    OPA allocates 90 percent of its overall funding for direct clinical 
services, including the Title X family planning services grants. In a 
level funding environment, OPA will continue to provide access to Title 
X across the country to as many clients as possible, but it will be 
difficult to expand access beyond those currently served.
    Title X grantees provide quality, client-centered family planning 
services that are consistent with the OPA and Centers for Disease 
Control and Prevention (CDC) national Quality Family Planning (QFP) 
recommendations and other relevant nationally recognized standards of 
care. For the Title X program, quality healthcare is defined as care 
that is safe, effective, client-centered, timely, efficient, and 
equitable. Client-centered care is defined as care that is respectful 
of, and responsive to, individual client preferences, needs, and values 
and where client values guide all clinical decisions.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
    Question. The Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) entitled 
``Supporting the Head Start Workforce and Consistent Quality 
Programming,'' published by the Office of Head Start on November 20, 
2023, is designed to increase the pay levels for Head Start teachers 
and staff. While the NPRM indicates that the cost to implement the 
proposed rule would be approximately $1.6 billion annually from 2024-
2033, the President's Budget Recommendation for FY25 includes only a 
$543.7 million increase for Head Start.
    With this funding amount, how would the Department intend to 
implement the proposed rule without reducing available slots for 
students?
    Answer. The Administration for Children and Families is considering 
and reviewing public comments of the proposed rule. The Office of Head 
Start (OHS) expects that most of the costs associated with the rule, 
when fully phased in after 7 years, will be covered within the existing 
funding allocation for Head Start, assuming that a full cost-of-living 
adjustment (COLA) investment is provided each year and programs right-
size their funded enrollment to match actual enrollment levels. Based 
on these two actions, we want to clarify that the cost of the proposed 
rule is not $1.6 billion annually. In recent years, Head Start programs 
have experienced a significant nationwide staffing shortage. This 
shortage facilitated persistent under-enrollment where the number of 
children actually served is far less than the number of children they 
are funded to serve, leaving a large number of slots unfilled. 
Increasing wages for Head Start staff is needed to stabilize the 
workforce and ensure the Head Start program can continue to fulfill its 
mission to promote strong outcomes for children and families. As Head 
Start programs work to improve their actual enrollment levels, many are 
also requesting reductions in their funded enrollment. Head Start 
programs are trying to right-size their funded enrollment to match 
their community needs, staffing realities, and fiscal constraints. OHS 
is also concerned about quality in Head Start, including child safety 
incidents and the ability to recruit and retain staff who meet the 
teacher qualification requirements in the Head Start Act and can 
support enriching interactions and early learning experiences.
    We estimate that many programs can approach full implementation of 
the policies when phased in by 2031 without additional appropriations 
(beyond COLA increases to account for inflation) by reducing their 
funded enrollment levels to align with their actual enrollment. Those 
programs would then have the ability to reinvest the resources 
associated with the reduced slots within their existing budgets to 
increase wages and compensation for staff. Based on NPRM estimates, 
reducing funded enrollment would result in about 1% fewer funded slots 
than FY 23 actual enrollment. Thus, if Head Start receives no 
additional funding from Congress beyond a full COLA each year--as 
represented by the $543.7 million included in the President's Budget 
for FY 25--a 1% reduction in currently filled slots would be needed to 
reach full implementation of the policies in the proposed rule by 2031. 
It is also important to note that these projections are based on 
standard COLA rates; the actual amount of COLA needed per year is 
subject to change based on updated measures of inflation.
    Question. Community Health Centers (CHCs) are an essential part of 
the healthcare safety net in New Hampshire. The Medicaid unwinding is 
causing some CHCs to have large numbers of patients shift from Medicaid 
to uninsured; for instance, one CHC has seen a 27 percent increase in 
uninsured patients since spring 2023. With additional funding, health 
centers could continue to provide the public health and comprehensive 
primary care services, including mental and behavioral healthcare, 
while also reducing healthcare costs.
    With this in mind, could HRSA please detail any plans to increase 
base allocations for Community Health Centers?
    Answer. We share your commitment to the work of HRSA-supported 
health centers. The President's FY 2025 Budget proposes to invest $700 
million to expand access to comprehensive services in health centers, 
$200 million to expand patient support and enabling services, $100 
million to support health centers to recruit, retain, and ``grow their 
own'' workforce, $50 million to expand health center access to high 
quality, patient-centered maternal health services, and $50 million to 
expand access to street medicine services, increasing street outreach 
and patient support services. We look forward to working with Congress 
to secure multi-year, sustainable funding for health centers.
    Question. Ensuring that Medicare beneficiaries are able to obtain 
accurate and timely diagnoses is critical to improved outcomes and 
quality of life for seniors. From a Medicare spending perspective, 
accurate and timely diagnoses are also essential to avoiding more 
expensive courses of treatment that result from delayed diagnoses and 
repeat scans. To that end, the Department of Health and Human Services 
(HHS) should ensure that Medicare's payment system for hospital 
outpatient services does not create disincentives for hospitals to use 
cutting-edge diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals, such as those used in PET 
scans, to detect diseases in early stages, including in particular 
prostate cancers and other cancers that have a disproportionate impact 
of people of color. Last year, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid 
Services (CMS) sought information from stakeholders on Medicare payment 
approaches that could avoid payment disincentives for these innovative 
diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals. One such approach, as envisioned in 
the Facilitating Innovative Nuclear Diagnostics (FIND) Act is to retain 
separate payment for innovative diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals rather 
than packaging the payment into the payment for the imaging scan.
    Will the administration commit to working with me and my office to 
help ensure that Medicare payments provide the appropriate incentive 
for hospitals to utilize innovative diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals for 
imaging scans?
    Answer. Under the OPPS, CMS packages several categories of non-
pass-through drugs, biologicals, and radiopharmaceuticals, regardless 
of the cost of the products. In particular, under Sec. 419.2(b)(15), 
payment for drugs, biologicals, and radiopharmaceuticals that function 
as supplies when used in a diagnostic test or procedure is packaged 
with the payment for the related procedure or service. Diagnostic 
radiopharmaceuticals, which include contrast agents, stress agents, and 
other products, are one specific type of product that is policy 
packaged.
    In the Calendar Year 2024 OPPS/ASC proposed rule, CMS solicited 
comment on a number of potential new approaches to payment for 
diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals that would enhance beneficiary access, 
while also maintaining the principles of the outpatient prospective 
payment system. Overall, commenters described clinical scenarios in 
which they believed CMS' payment policies created the most significant 
access issues, and accordingly, commenters urged CMS to reform payment 
policy for diagnostic radiopharmaceuticals to address these concerns. 
However, there was not a general consensus among commenters as to the 
most effective way for CMS to reform its OPPS diagnostic 
radiopharmaceutical payment policy.
    CMS agrees this is a complex and important issue and, given the 
wide array of information presented through the public comment process, 
we intend to further consider these points and take them into 
consideration for future notice and comment rulemaking. CMS welcomes 
ongoing dialogue and engagement from stakeholders regarding suggestions 
for potential future payment changes. We are happy to work with you on 
this issue moving forward.
    Question. The COVID-19 pandemic catalyzed significant advances in 
using wastewater to monitor a range of infectious diseases in 
communities across America. With insights learned throughout the 
pandemic, Congress can assist in building a national wastewater 
surveillance system with the capability, flexibility and Federal 
funding necessary to track multiple existing infectious diseases 
simultaneously, quickly detect new threats, and share that information 
with our communities.
    As you know, the COVID funding that has supported wastewater 
surveillance at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) 
lapses at the end of 2025.
    What steps is the administration taking this year to further 
strengthen our wastewater surveillance system at the CDC?
    What is the total amount of annual sustained funding that the CDC 
believes is necessary to accomplish our goals once the COVID funding 
that has supported this program has lapsed?
    Answer. From 2020-2024, CDC has invested more than $500 million in 
supplemental funding to build a robust and nimble wastewater monitoring 
system for infectious disease threats such as COVID-19, mpox, and 
influenza.
    With this support, CDC has carried out the following:
  --Established a national program of over 1,500 sampling sites, 
        capturing wastewater data that represents approximately 150 
        million Americans in all 50 states.
  --Established four Centers of Excellence advancing wastewater 
        surveillance across the United States through partnerships 
        between public health departments and academic institutions in 
        the City of Houston, California, Colorado, and Wisconsin.
  --Supported wastewater testing at community sites nationwide through 
        a national testing contract, and wastewater surveillance 
        initiatives among tribes through both a cooperative agreement 
        and contractual mechanisms.
  --Launched an updated wastewater surveillance data dashboard, with 
        new visualizations of COVID-19, along with materials that make 
        it easier to see national trends and for communities to take 
        action.
  --Encouraged collaborative learning and peer-to-peer sharing through 
        the NWSS Communities of Practice across utilities, public 
        health departments, and laboratories.
  --Leveraged the wastewater surveillance program to better understand 
        and implement public health response to emerging pathogens such 
        as influenza A.
  --Established a CDC leadership group to guide decisions around 
        prioritization of wastewater surveillance targets based on 
        evolving science and to adapt to any rapidly emerging public 
        health priorities.
  --Built and supported wastewater testing efforts in state, tribal, 
        local, and territorial (STLT) public health agencies, Centers 
        of Excellence, and commercial wastewater testing.
    The FY 2025 President's Budget request includes $20 million to 
support wastewater monitoring at CDC in the Emerging Infectious 
Diseases budget line, which provides nimble, disease agnostic funding 
for cross-cutting infectious disease needs. If funded, this would 
provide the first sustained funding for wastewater activities at CDC.
    The President's Budget request of $20 million would help ensure CDC 
can retain a smaller- scale, response-ready wastewater surveillance 
capability in the future in a limited, scalable capacity. This base 
investment would preserve some of the wastewater surveillance capacity 
that CDC has built, but CDC would not be able to retain a fully 
national wastewater program. Funding would likely support a small 
number of states to continue to conduct wastewater testing, and CDC is 
examining how best to retain response-ready capability--for example, 
focusing on states/sites that can be expanded for response needs, and 
balancing coverage for high-risk, major metropolitan, and rural areas 
and areas of high social vulnerability.
    The budget also includes $20 billion in mandatory funding, 
available over 5 years, of which $6.1 billion would be allocated to CDC 
to modernize detection infrastructure, improving early warning systems 
like wastewater surveillance and strengthening our nation's public 
health laboratory system.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Brian Schatz
    Question. I am concerned we are facing a telehealth cliff in 2024. 
My bill, the CONNECT for Health Act, cosponsored by 63 of my bipartisan 
Senate colleagues, would ensure permanent expansion of Medicare 
telehealth coverage.
    Do you support permanently removing geographic site requirements 
and providing the home and other settings as originating sites for 
Medicare telehealth services?
    Do you commit to working with Congress and CBO to provide the 
timely technical assistance needed to support our legislative work this 
year?
    What are the risks to the healthcare system if Congress fails to 
extend Medicare telehealth coverage by the December 31, 2024 deadline?
    What are the risks to the healthcare system if Congress provides a 
short-term extension that will have to be reauthorized in subsequent 
years?
    How does a short-term extension of telehealth policy impact CMS's 
annual rulemakings in the Medicare Physician Fee Schedule?
    Will CMS be able to create a regulatory pathway to allow for 
immediate and seamless updates to policy when and if the law is updated 
at the end of 2024?
    Audio-only services. There are a variety of high-value, low-tech 
telehealth modalities that benefit patients' access to care, including 
audio-only services. CMS could modify the definition of ``interactive 
telecommunications systems'' in regulations and program instruction to 
ensure that providers can utilize all appropriate means and types of 
technologies to furnish telehealth services. However, CMS stated in the 
CY23 and CY24 Physician Fee Schedule (PFS) Final Rule that its 
regulatory interpretation of ``telecommunications system'' generally 
precludes audio-only services except under certain circumstances.
      What clinical guidelines and peer-reviewed evidence is CMS using 
        to draw the distinction outlined in the PFS to determine when 
        to cover and exclude care modalities from the Medicare 
        telehealth services list?
      Since CMS has already determined that it can update its 
        definition of ``interactive telecommunications systems'' in 
        certain circumstances, what, if any, additional statutory 
        authorities does CMS need to ensure continued coverage?
    Protecting provider privacy. The architects of Medicare systems 
never envisioned that a provider would be practicing from their home. 
However, today it is commonplace and used as a strategy to reduce 
provider burnout. I am concerned that when providers furnish care from 
their homes, CMS could require that they publicly report their home 
address as the practice location, which is why I appreciate you 
extending pandemic flexibilities in the CY 2024 Physician Fee Schedule.
      Do you commit to finding an alternative solution for providers, 
        ensuring safety, privacy, and minimizing additional 
        administrative burdens that might hamper telehealth access?
    Answer. HHS and CMS continually consider how to best ensure access 
to medically necessary items and services and makes changes where 
appropriate and permissible under our statutory authority. We recognize 
the vital role that telehealth can play in the delivery of care, 
particularly among populations that are underserved. We implemented 
Section 4113 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023, which 
extended many telehealth flexibilities adopted during the public health 
emergency for COVID-19 through December 31, 2024. Additionally, through 
notice- and-comment rulemaking, the CMS solicited public comment and 
implemented regulatory changes that have permanently expanded certain 
telehealth policies that are within the agency's authority to modify. 
Some changes to Medicare telehealth policy would require legislative 
action to amend the statute, and we look forward to our continued work 
with Congress on this crucial issue.
    With respect to audio-only services, historically, CMS has not 
proposed any permanent modifications to the definition of ``interactive 
telecommunications system'' to allow for use of audio-only 
communications technology due to our interpretation of the statutory 
requirements, as well as concerns over program integrity and quality of 
care. In the CY 2022 Medicare Physician Fee Schedule (PFS) final rule, 
CMS noted that we believed it was reasonable to reassess these 
concerns, given the widespread utilization during the Public Health 
Emergency (PHE) for COVID-19 of Medicare telehealth services furnished 
using audio-only communications technology. Based upon an initial 
review of claims data collected during the PHE for COVID-19, which 
describe audio-only telephone E/M services, we observed that the audio-
only E/M visits were some of the most commonly performed telehealth 
services during the PHE, and that most of the beneficiaries receiving 
these services were receiving them for treatment of a mental health 
condition. We also believed that mental health services are different 
from most other services on the Medicare telehealth services list in 
that many of the services primarily involve verbal conversation where 
visualization between the patient and furnishing physician or 
practitioner may be less critical to provision of the service.
    Given these considerations, we believed that it was be appropriate 
to revisit our regulatory definition of ``interactive 
telecommunications system'' beyond the circumstances of the PHE to 
allow for the inclusion of audio-only services under certain 
circumstances. Therefore, we finalized amendments to our regulation at 
42 CFR 410.78(a)(3) to define interactive telecommunications system to 
include audio-only communications technology when used for telehealth 
services for the diagnosis, evaluation, or treatment of mental health 
disorders furnished to established patients when the originating site 
is the patient's home.
    CMS recognizes that telehealth plays a growing role in supporting 
beneficiary access to the care they need. Additionally, CMS 
acknowledges concerns about privacy and safety related to provider's 
home addresses being shared. In the Calendar Year (CY) 2024 Medicare 
Physician Fee Schedule (PFS) final rule, CMS finalized a policy to 
continue to permit the distant site practitioner to use their currently 
enrolled practice location instead of their home address when providing 
telehealth services from their home until the end of 2024. In that 
final rule, we also requested further information from interested 
parties to better understand the scope of considerations involved with 
including a practitioner's home address as an enrolled practice 
location when that address is the distant site location where they 
furnish Medicare telehealth services. The requested information will 
inform future enrollment and payment policy development as we consider 
this issue further for future rulemaking.
    Question. Eight months on from the devastating fires on Maui, the 
needs remain enormous. Thousands of people are still living out of 
hotels and vacation rentals. Congress needs to step up and help. In its 
FY24 domestic supplemental appropriations request, HHS requested over 
$400 million to support the health and social services needs for the 
people of Maui.
    What services are survivors missing out on if Congress fails to 
deliver supplemental funding?
    Answer. Failure to enact supplemental funding would result in 
delays or gaps in service delivery to families during a critical period 
of their post-disaster recovery. These services provide an essential 
lifeline--bridging the gap in survivor needs by providing human 
services that traditional disaster programs cannot fulfill. Human and 
social services includes programs with a focus on harm reduction for 
vulnerable persons and communities (e.g., families involved in the 
child welfare system, domestic and intimate partner violence survivors, 
individuals who have experienced or are at risk of human trafficking, 
tribal nations, recent immigrants, older adults, and individuals with 
disabilities or behavioral support needs); continuity and coordination 
of essential services (e.g., child care, crisis sheltering, nutrition 
assistance, financial, energy, and water assistance); and providing 
psychosocial case management and trauma-informed approaches for 
coordinated human and social service delivery.
    Without these funds, disaster survivors would not receive 
coordinated, holistic, and responsive services consistent with the 
standards and processes of traditional human service programs. This 
would result in disjointed delivery of already constrained disaster 
services; missed opportunities to provide targeted resources for 
particularly vulnerable populations; and further delay the 
stabilization and recovery of disaster survivors.
    The Hawai'i Department of Human Services (HDHS) has indicated on 
multiple occasions a streamlined approach to supplemental disaster 
human service funding is needed, as it would afford them flexibility 
to: respond over time to evolving and emerging human service needs for 
disaster survivors; assist HDHS in providing timely and responsive 
services through sub-grant awards to community based organizations; 
enable them to provide direct services to persons whose living 
conditions and circumstances were fundamentally and substantively 
changed by the wildfire; ensure the ongoing provision of culturally and 
linguistically appropriate human services; and enhance their 
administrative capabilities for state level emergency program 
management and crisis grant execution. Additional supplemental funding 
would also enable the coordinated delivery of ongoing case management 
services, beyond the immediate period of traditional disaster programs.
    ACF's Office of Human Services Emergency Preparedness and Response 
(OHSEPR) has requested to authorize and provide $150 million for a 
Human Services Emergency Fund and $12 million for disaster human 
services case management. ACF's Office of Head Start (OHS) has 
requested an additional $19 million to support critical Head Start 
program infrastructure and services in Lahaina. If Maui does not 
receive supplemental funding, disaster survivors may be denied services 
and supports including:
  --comprehensive and holistic case management support for Hawaii for 
        service coordination and support of survivors.
  --historical and cultural preservation (including the provision of 
        training, education, and language preservation).
  --Family Violence and Prevention Services for additional, direct 
        outreach and to augment the Strong Hearts and domestic violence 
        hotlines to respond to any spikes in call volume.
  --funding for Community Action Agencies to provide community-based 
        supports.
  --funding for construction or major renovation of destroyed or 
        damaged child care facilities, services for additional families 
        to receive child care subsidies to continue activities and 
        efforts to rebuild their lives, start-up grants to incentivize 
        new child care providers to address the gap in available 
        services, and mental health services for children and their 
        caregivers that experienced trauma because of the fires.
  --funding for the reconstruction of two Head Start facilities, 
        repairs to several other centers, replacement of necessary 
        furnishings and equipment, and support for interim providers to 
        ensure continuity of services for children and families during 
        rebuilding.
    This would also limit the capacity and ability of organizations to 
provide services to survivors as they would lack:
  --support for staff wellbeing and mitigating workforce trauma and 
        compassion fatigue to provide additional culturally appropriate 
        mental health services.
  --funding for emergency and incentive hiring for state human services 
        officials that can be surged into Lahaina.
  --ongoing training and technical assistance, research, and evaluation 
        to inform and enhance service delivery.
  --ongoing strategic planning and needs assessments over time, to 
        project and adjust to emerging needs or develop solutions to 
        address recurrent issues.
    If additional funding was provided via annual or supplemental 
funding for the Maui wildfires, ASPR would use the funding to replace 
and preposition medical caches, improve infrastructure and information 
technology for response and recovery activities, and support the 
Medical Reserve Corps.
    Specific to the medical caches, the Hawaii wildfire response 
activated ASPR's NDMS Disaster Mortuary Operations Response Team 
(DMORT) and Victim Identification Team, the only civilian mortuary 
response capability in the U.S. Government. This unique asset, however, 
has lacked sustained funding to keep critical staff and capabilities 
up-to-date. Therefore, they have urgent funding needs in order to 
modernize aging Disaster Portable Mortuary Unit (DPMU) equipment and 
supporting IT systems.
    The Maui wildfires severely disrupted the aging and disability 
networks' ability to provide vital services and programs to older 
adults, people with disabilities, and their family caregivers. At the 
same time, the aging and disability networks have and continue to face 
increased demand for their services, including nutrition services, 
personal care assistance, legal advocacy, transportation, assistance 
with identifying accessible housing, and more. Without supplemental 
funding for these services, older adults and people with disabilities 
will be unable to live independently in their own communities. For 
example, without assistance to find accessible housing and replace 
assistive technology and other support devices, people with 
disabilities and older adults are at risk of institutional placement 
and those institutions may be far from their community-based support 
network that includes direct care professionals, family, and friends, 
leading to more trauma.
    The Administration for Community Living has no authorities that 
allow for supplemental disaster funding to the disability networks with 
annual appropriations. A small amount ($1.1M) of funding under the 
Older Americans Act authorities was provided to the aging network last 
fall that was grossly insufficient for the scope of the disaster in 
Hawaii. As a result, programs redirected funds intended for other 
activities to address the immediate need, impacting their ability to 
provide ongoing services.
    In addition to the ongoing service needs, the infrastructure to 
provide services was lost or damaged. The area's senior center, 
nutrition sites, and an adult day center were destroyed, making service 
delivery even more challenging. The disability networks lost an 
accessible building and its contents (furniture, IT, etc.) plus an 
accessible van. The assistive technology (AT) program's inventory was 
destroyed and significantly damaged, greatly impacting the program's 
ability to loan equipment to support people with disabilities of all 
ages and their families while their AT is being replaced or fixed. Many 
individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities face 
difficulty comprehending, processing, and coping with the disaster. 
Assistive technology and other support devices are critical to their 
health, safety, and well-being. The equipment can be costly and may not 
be covered by insurance. Without supplemental funding for services, 
supports, and the networks' infrastructure, older adults, people with 
disabilities, and their families are struggling, and the health, well-
being, and independence of these populations are in jeopardy.
    CDC/ATSDR would support local residents by enabling 1) adequate 
public health surveillance, (2) poison center accessibility, (3) 
geospatial environmental sampling and contamination tracking, (4) 
health equity assessments, (5) community-targeted health education 
outreach, and (6) community clinical needs assessments with resultant 
clinician education aligned to the identified needs.
    Question. Maui residents have experienced so much loss, trauma, and 
grief, and addressing the mental health toll is just as important as 
dealing with the physical damage. Your domestic supplemental request 
included $144 million for behavioral health. Can you please describe 
the services included in this request?
    Answer. SAMHSA funding would be used to:
  --support grants for the 19 K-12 schools on Maui to provide trauma 
        informed supports and services to children and staff.
  --support grant programs to support to preschool age children and 
        support parenting training and supports for talking with 
        children about stress and trauma.
  --examine the distinctive needs of underserved populations, including 
        each racial and ethnic minority community, especially Hispanic/
        Latino, Asian, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander 
        populations.
  --focus on training and education services for peers, first 
        responders, and other key community sectors, on recognition of 
        the signs and symptoms of mental and substance use disorders in 
        adults. support individuals in Maui with possible alcohol use 
        disorder or drug use disorder; provide enhanced screening, 
        brief intervention, and referral to treatment as needed. 
        enhance and expand comprehensive treatment, early intervention, 
        and recovery support services for adolescents (ages 12-18) and 
        transitional aged youth (ages 16-25) with substance use 
        disorders (SUD) and/or co-occurring substance use and mental 
        disorders (COD), and their families/primary caregivers.
  --develop a low-threshold model within the harm reduction continuum 
        to provide portable substance use disorder services.
  --provide training and TA in culturally-valued practices that can be 
        integrated to address the immediate need for interpreters for 
        the monolingual, non-English speaking communities in Maui (e.g. 
        Native Hawaiian, Spanish-speaking, Filipino, Tongan, and other 
        Pacific Islander communities) and to provide additional staff/
        project manager support.
    Question. The Hawaii Department of Health found elevated levels of 
toxins in Lahaina wildfire ash, including more than twelve times the 
action level of arsenic and elevated levels of antimony, cobalt, 
copper, and lead. If supplemental funding were appropriated, how could 
the National Center for Environmental Health support local public 
health officials?
    Answer. Supplemental funding to CDC/ATSDR for the Hawaii Wildfire 
Recovery would support access to timely and appropriate healthcare to 
local residents by enabling (1) adequate public health surveillance, 
(2) poison center accessibility, (3) geospatial environmental sampling 
and contamination tracking, (4) health equity assessments, (5) 
community-targeted health education outreach, and (6) community 
clinical needs assessments with resultant clinician education aligned.
    Question. Multiple healthcare, aging and disability network 
providers, Head Start, and child care facilities were destroyed in 
Lahaina. How does HHS's domestic supplemental request help to alleviate 
the strains on families and fill gaps in healthcare and social services 
left by the fires?
    Answer. The proposed supplemental language would provide human 
services and social services to the most vulnerable survivors of the 
August 2023 wildfires. To provide this assistance, the Department has 
requested Congress provide $150 million for the ACF to provide grants 
and other assistance to the Hawai'i Department of Human Services 
through a single funding stream. To provide Hawai'i with maximum 
flexibility in responding to needs, the Department recommends that 
Congress authorize a fund known as the ``Human Services Emergency 
Fund'' (Fund). An additional $12 million is requested for case 
management support to Hawaii for ongoing service coordination and 
support of survivors of the wildfires.
      The Fund would allow ACF to fulfill the request from the Hawai'i 
        Department of Human Services to streamline the manner in which 
        ACF provides supplemental funds. Typically, supplemental funds 
        are distributed through each of ACF's program offices with 
        separate requirements for eligibility, timing, delivery, and 
        reporting. These varying requirements create unnecessary 
        administrative burden and costs on states in need.
      To reduce the administrative burden, Hawai'i requested ACF 
        provide supplemental funds through a single funding stream. The 
        request from Hawai'i is based on lessons learned from the 
        administrative burden Hawai'i encountered in administering 
        COVID funds from many different streams. The reduced 
        administrative burden would allow Hawai'i to direct the money 
        in a more efficient and timely manner to local agencies and 
        community service agencies in Maui. This would result in 
        survivors and their families receiving services expediently.
      In addition, the single funding stream would allow Hawai'i to 
        meet not only the immediate needs of survivors, but also allow 
        local agencies and community service organizations to meet the 
        needs of survivors that evolve as they recover from the 
        wildfire. These funds are essential for meeting the evolving 
        needs of the most vulnerable survivors, who require 
        interventions long after the majority of the population has 
        resumed their normal activities. The Fund would enable local 
        agencies to provide the necessary services to these vulnerable 
        populations.
    The request for $12 million to support case management would be to 
deploy an existing ACF/OHSEPR contractor currently funded in ``warm 
status'' to coordinate access to the direct services to significantly 
augment the state capabilities. This need was identified by the state 
of Hawai'i as a critical requirement to provide this support to augment 
the limited human services case management they currently have and 
enable Hawai'i's human services department to stabilize. The contract 
vehicle that DHSCM would allow these services to be provided within 
weeks after funding is received.
    These activities may include: conducting disaster survivor outreach 
and assessments; delivering case management services to disaster 
survivors including direct linkage to community-based supports; 
analyzing ongoing data to identify trends on current, emerging, and 
unmet community needs to the State of Hawai'i requiring additional 
resourcing; and providing technical assistance to the state to enable 
their successful implementation of disaster case management operations 
and transition as needed to steady-state or ongoing case management 
delivery.
    Question. Without supplemental funding for ASPR, what medical 
caches will be available in Hawaii and the Pacific territories in a 
future emergency?
    Answer. At current funding levels appropriated for FY 2024, ASPR 
will continue to support two Disaster Medical Assistance Team (DMAT) 
caches currently positioned in Hawaii. For background, a DMAT cache is 
a scalable field medical resource that can support up to a 38-person 
DMAT medical team. A DMAT cache is comprised of medical equipment and 
supplies, large tents, generators, military rations, water, and other 
support materiel necessary to support the DMAT medical team in a field 
base of operations for up to 72 hours before requiring resupply. The 
footprint of the DMAT cache is approximately 60 pallets and is 
transportable on two commercial refrigerated trucks, one 53-foot 
tractor-trailer, and one flatbed tractor-trailer to haul a forklift.
    With supplemental funding, ASPR would replace and preposition 
medical caches, improve infrastructure and information technology for 
response and recovery activities, and support the Medical Reserve 
Corps.
    Question. What are the Disaster Mortuary Operational Resource 
team's lessons learned from the Maui fires response? What priority 
funding would ensure the team is able to respond to a future event in 
which there are more fatalities than local resources can manage?
    Answer. The Hawaii wildfire response activated ASPR's NDMS Disaster 
Mortuary Operations Response Team (DMORT) and Victim Identification 
Team, the only civilian mortuary response capability in the U.S. 
Government. This unique asset, however, has lacked sustained funding to 
keep critical staff and capabilities up-to-date. Therefore, they have 
urgent funding needs in order to modernize aging Disaster Portable 
Mortuary Unit (DPMU) equipment and IT systems, expand the NDMS 
intermittent workforce with experienced mortuary and victim 
identification expertise, increase readiness of the existing workforce, 
and improve communications gear. As noted in an earlier response, 
supplemental funding would enhance this capability.
    Specifically related to after-action review, Congress should be 
aware that HHS utilizes an after-action process to identify areas for 
corrective action and ensure future response operations account for 
gaps and challenges. Specific to the response in Maui, ASPR noted there 
was inadequate communications devices for monitoring information flow 
and performing essential duties in an austere outside the continental 
United States (OCONUS) environment. Cellular communication is a known 
issue in OCONUS states and territories in Region IX. The wildfires 
caused significant damage to communication infrastructure in Maui, 
which further exacerbated difficulties in obtaining reliable telephone 
and Internet connectivity. Personnel, such as Incident Management Team 
members as well as agency representatives and liaisons, were eventually 
able to obtain more reliable connectivity after being provided access 
to Starlink via the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
    Question. The Hawaii congressional delegation secured $4 million in 
new funding to launch a Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander Health 
Research Office at the National Institutes of Minority Health and 
Health Disparities.
    When does NIMHD plan to launch this new office?
    What will be the focus and mission of this new office?
    How does NIMHD plan to work with NHPI communities to prioritize 
research topics?
    How will this new office help to support the development of future 
biomedical researchers from NHPI communities?
    Answer. The launch of the NIH Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 
Health Research Office at the National Institute on Minority Health and 
Health Disparities (NIHMD) is currently underway and will officially 
launch by September 2024. The focus and mission of the Native Hawaiian 
and Pacific Islander Health Research Office is to advance NIH efforts 
in supporting research, training, community engagement, and academic-
community partnerships to promote and improve health in Native Hawaiian 
and Pacific Islander (NHPI) communities in the U.S. and its 
territories. The NHPI Health Research Office will engage NHPI 
communities to prioritize research topics by conducting listening 
sessions with NHPI community leaders and workshops with investigators 
with experience in NHPI research. The NHPI Health Research Office will 
coordinate with established research initiatives such as the NIH 
Community Engagement Alliance, the Research Centers in Minority 
Institutions program, and other research projects focused on NHPI 
populations. Moreover, the NHPI Health Research Office will support 
efforts promoting career development-related outreach that fosters 
greater participation of NHPI individuals in NIH educational and 
training programs that target researchers who are in various stages of 
their careers.
    NIMHD looks forward to providing updates on the activities led by 
the NHPI Health Research Office that will strengthen NIH-supported 
research on improving the health and well-being of NHPI communities.
    Question. My bipartisan STOP Pain Act was enacted as part of the 
Comprehensive Addiction and Recovery Act (CARA) of 2016. The bill 
strengthened NIH research for treatment of chronic pain. Since 
enactment of CARA and the SUPPORT Act, NIH's HEAL initiative has funded 
1,800 projects in 50 states.
    How much NIH funding has gone to pain management research since 
passage of the STOP Pain Act ?
    CDC's April 2023 report in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly 
Report ``Chronic Pain Among Adults--United States, 2019-2021'' 
estimates that 21% of U.S. adults experienced chronic pain. What are 
the estimated annual direct healthcare costs (e.g., diagnostic, 
management and treatment) and indirect costs (e.g., missed work, loss 
of productivity, disability) incurred for individuals living with 
chronic pain? If this analysis is unavailable, what funding would be 
needed to complete this assessment?
    Answer. The NIH reports categorical spending on hundreds of topics 
through the Research, Condition, and Disease Categorization (RCDC) 
system. The reported funding under the RCDC category for Pain Research 
has increased since the passage of the STOP Pain Act. In FY 2016, the 
RCDC amount for Pain Research was $483 million. The most recent RCDC 
total is for FY 2023, which is $1 billion. The average from FY 2017 to 
FY 2023 is $835 million. CDC is committed to addressing and assessing 
the challenges that patients living with chronic pain face. CDC has 
undertaken research efforts to qualify the economic costs of chronic 
pain in the United States and plans to release a publication in the 
coming year to share this information broadly with members of the 
public. CDC will share the final publication upon its release with this 
committee and is happy to answer any questions.
    Question. How are HHS OpDivs translating the millions of dollars in 
NIH funding to incentivize evidence-based, integrated care delivery 
models for treatment of chronic pain so that individuals have robust 
alternatives to highly addictive opioids?
    Answer. The NIH HEAL Initiative supports pragmatic clinical trials 
to evaluate and embed evidence-based multidisciplinary pain care in a 
variety of healthcare settings. The program goals are to develop and 
implement models of care for a variety of pain conditions for diverse 
populations with a focus on health equity. The Pragmatic Studies for 
Pain Management Without Opioids \1\ supports studies in large 
healthcare systems, whereas the Prevention and Management of Chronic 
Pain in Rural Populations \2\ focuses on care in non-traditional 
healthcare settings such as community centers, and the Advancing Health 
Equity in Pain Management \3\ focuses on culturally based care in a 
broad range of settings.
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    \2\ heal.nih.gov/research/clinical-research/chronic-pain-rural-
populations.
    \3\ heal.nih.gov/research/clinical-research/health-equity-pain-
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    To help promote evidence-based, non-opioid based integrated care 
delivery models for treatment of chronic pain SAMHSA funded ten (10) 
grantees under the Emergency Department Alternatives to Opioids Program 
(ED-ALT) grant program (No. TI-20-005) authorized under section 7091 of 
the Substance Use Prevention that Promotes Opioid Recovery and 
Treatment for Patients and Communities Act (SUPPORT Act) (42 U.S.C. 
294i note; 132 Stat. 4035) in October 2018 which was to be used to 
``...carry out a demonstration program for purposes of awarding grants 
to hospitals and emergency department, including freestanding emergency 
departments, to develop, implement, enhance, or study alternatives to 
opioid for pain management in such settings.'' The grantees were 
awarded beginning in FY 2020; since that time, grantees have been 
implementing alternatives to opioids for pain management in hospitals 
and emergency department (ED) settings.
    Question. The President's FY2025 Budget includes a proposal to 
provide access to recommended vaccines for adults who do not have 
insurance coverage.
    How does the proposal seek to leverage and build on the state and 
local relationships established in response to COVID to improve access 
to routine vaccinations?
    Answer. The Vaccines for Adults (VFA) program proposal seeks to 
leverage and build on the long-standing infrastructure and 
relationships between CDC and state and local immunization programs), 
which were strengthened during the COVID-19 response. The longstanding 
infrastructure and relationships were successfully leveraged during the 
COVID-19 response, along with the newer retail and community-based 
partnerships established during the COVID-19 response and the Bridge 
Access Program. The VFA proposal would create a permanent program to 
cover Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)-recommended 
adult vaccinations for uninsured adults with a major goal of increasing 
routine adult immunization access points and adult vaccination coverage 
for all recommended vaccines and that could be used to deliver vaccines 
quickly during outbreaks or emergency responses.
    Question. How would this proposed program increase routine 
vaccinations for adults in rural and underserved areas?
    Answer. Lack of access to and confidence in vaccines 
disproportionately impact groups at higher risk of disease, including 
adults in rural communities. Similar to the Vaccines for Children 
program, the VFA program would allow a wide range of healthcare 
providers to participate and receive reimbursement for providing all 
ACIP-recommended adult vaccinations to people living in rural areas. 
According to a 2022 National Health Statistics Report, adults aged 18-
64 living in rural communities are more likely to be uninsured and less 
likely to have private insurance compared to those in metropolitan 
communities.\4\ For many small healthcare providers and clinicians, 
particularly in rural areas, the upfront cost of vaccine purchases and 
lack of reimbursement are major challenges to keeping all adult 
vaccines available to their patients. VFA would allow and support 
providers in rural areas to carry all ACIP-recommended vaccines for 
their uninsured patients. Making vaccines easy to get and convenient 
(through many access points) are two of the biggest building blocks in 
creating strong vaccine confidence and demand.
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    \4\ National Health Statistics Reports, Number 176, November 3, 
2022 (cdc.gov).
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    Through the Bridge Access Program, we have demonstrated the ability 
to improve access in all parts of the country, including rural areas. 
For example, the Bridge Access Program includes traditional healthcare 
providers, HRSA-supported health centers, health departments, large 
chain pharmacies, and independent pharmacies, providing access to 
approximately one third of zip codes where adults without insurance 
live. The Bridge Access Program has a specific focus on reaching rural 
areas and areas of low vaccine uptake. eTrueNorth, one of the three 
retail partners, serves as an aggregator of small and independent 
pharmacies. There are at least 24,000 pharmacy locations and 6,000 
safety net health providers actively participating in the Bridge Access 
Program. About 83 percent of people living in the United States (76 
percent of uninsured adults) live within a 5-mile driving distance from 
a participating pharmacy location.
    Question. What steps is CDC taking to support states in 
establishing and/or maintaining adult immunization programming? Have 
there been efforts to understand gaps in adult immunization, or to 
review states current capabilities to offer vaccines to uninsured 
adults?
    Answer. Outside of the Bridge Access Program (which is slated to 
end in August 2024) and in the absence of a statutorily authorized VFA 
program, CDC continues to support states and local public health 
partners in implementing some adult immunization programming. CDC 
provides limited support for adult programming and infrastructure 
through annual funding, which goes out to 64 immunization awardees. 
With current appropriations levels, CDC provides approximately $70 
million annually for purchase of ACIP-recommended vaccines for 
uninsured adults and for purchase of adult vaccines during outbreaks. 
This amount of funding must cover all 64 jurisdictional awardees and a 
growing adult immunization schedule (growing from six ACIP-recommended 
adult vaccines in 2004 to 17 in 2024) as well as newer, more advanced 
vaccines being added to each schedule, increasing the total cost of 
vaccine purchase. This means that jurisdictions must make increasingly 
challenging choices on which vaccines to purchase for uninsured adults.
    CDC is working to understand adult immunization trends and provide 
our jurisdictional partners with as much support as possible. This 
includes the following activities:
  --Establishing adult vaccine teams and units across the Immunization 
        Services Division that support data and coverage studies, 
        vaccine confidence efforts, adult-focused partnerships, and 
        health equity initiatives.
  --Conducting a formal analysis of section 317 and other funding 
        sources to support routine adult immunization activities among 
        the 64 state and local immunization programs, which included a 
        survey and key informant interviews of immunization awardees 
        (findings published in Public Health Reports, March 2024). This 
        analysis found that awardees reported limited funding outside 
        of section 317 funding to support vaccine purchase and adult 
        immunization operations and outreach activities, and limited 
        support for staff focused on adult immunization activities, 
        impacting their capacity to serve all eligible adults and offer 
        all ACIP-recommended vaccines. Many awardees reported decreased 
        level of state funding for adult vaccines, as well. This 
        analysis also showed that awardees reported significant 
        challenges, even with respect to maintaining current levels of 
        support for eligible adults, including underinsured adults, 
        despite stable discretionary funding, due to increases in the 
        number and costs of adult vaccinations and competing priorities 
        for these funds, which are also used to support an increasing 
        number of outbreak responses (e.g., measles, Hepatitis A).
  --Developing, piloting, and launching the Success Framework for Adult 
        Immunization Partner Networks (cdc.gov), a maturity model 
        planning tool and resource for jurisdictions to build the 
        robust partnership networks needed to support adult 
        immunization in the community.
  --Based on implementation of the Success Framework, noted above, 
        working with awardees to develop and pilot a more comprehensive 
        Adult Immunization Program Framework, a planning tool to help 
        awardees to move beyond partnerships to build and expand their 
        operational capacity, improve routine adult vaccination 
        coverage, and reduce longstanding disparities in adult 
        vaccination rates.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
    Question. The Health Resources and Services Administration, 
administers grants and programs that are critical to rural health 
centers, clinics, and hospitals. Your budget requests a $2 billion 
increase over FY23 to this agency to carry out these programs. However, 
many areas of West Virginia remain unable to access these resources.
    West Virginia is the only state that lies completely within the 
Appalachian Mountain region. The United States Department of 
Agriculture (USDA) Economic Research Service (ERS) recognized the 
unique topography of our state in their recent report on ``rugged 
terrain''.
    The report found that almost 81% of West Virginians live in a 
rugged area. That's compared to just 11.7% of the entire United States 
population. The Fiscal Year 2024 bill included language for HRSA to 
review this report to update their rural definition to better capture 
the uniqueness of Appalachia.
    Can you provide an update on this review and a timeline for when we 
will see the results?
    Answer. On April 26th, HRSA announced a proposed modification to 
the definition of `rural' used to designate eligible areas for rural 
health grants. Because access to needed healthcare is likely to be 
impacted when roads are most difficult to traverse, HRSA proposes to 
modify the definition of rural areas by integrating the new Road 
Ruggedness Scale (RRS) released in 2023 by the Economic Research 
Service (ERS) of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. All areas included 
in the current definition of rural would remain included. Public 
comments on the proposal are due May 28, 2024. After the comment period 
closes, HRSA will analyze the public comments received and issue an 
updated Federal Register Notice.
    Question. We have seen significant growth in the Medicare Advantage 
program, with enrollment tripling in the last decade. Many seniors 
appreciate the benefits offered, including $0 premium plans, and 
expanded treatment options, however we can not turn a blind eye on 
spending.
    MedPAC estimates that there will be an $88 billion spending 
difference between traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage plans in 
2024 alone. And in 2022, Medicare payments to Medicare Advantage plans 
averaged roughly 104% of Traditional Medicare spending, with roughly 
$12 billion of that attributed to incorrect billing practices.
    With the Congressional Budget Office projecting depletion of the 
Medicare Trust Fund by 2033, we must prioritize solutions to both 
improve quality and ensure long-term solvency.
    What is your Department doing to correct over spending in this 
program, while insuring we are still incentivizing quality health 
plans?
    Answer. CMS agrees it is imperative to protect Medicare coverage 
for beneficiaries. The President's FY 2025 budget includes proposals 
that, if enacted, would extend Medicare solvency indefinitely without 
cutting benefits. CMS is required to annually update Medicare Advantage 
(MA) payment rates and regularly implements technical updates to make 
improvements needed to keep MA payments up-to-date and accurate. On 
April 1, 2024, CMS released the Calendar Year (CY) 2025 Medicare 
Advantage Rate Notice, which continues to build on our actions to 
improve MA payment accuracy while being good stewards of the Medicare 
program and improving the program's long-term sustainability.
    CMS finalized an updated MA Risk Adjustment Model in the CY 2024 
Rate Announcement and began an expected three-year phase-in of the use 
of that model, referred to as the 2024 CMS-HCC model, starting with CY 
2024. The updated model includes important technical updates to improve 
its predictive accuracy, including restructured condition categories 
using the International Classification of Diseases (ICD)-10 
classification system (instead of the ICD-9 classification system), 
updated underlying FFS data years (from 2014 diagnoses and 2015 
expenditures to 2018 diagnoses and 2019 expenditures), an updated 
``denominator year'' in determining the average per capita predicted 
expenditures to create relative factors in the model, as well as 
applying our longstanding principles to make revisions focused on 
conditions that are subject to more coding variation.
    For CY 2025, CMS will continue to phase in the updated risk 
adjustment model as proposed by blending 67% of the risk score 
calculated using the updated 2024 MA risk adjustment model with 33% of 
the risk score calculated using the 2020 MA risk adjustment model. CMS 
is also applying a coding pattern adjustment set at the statutory 
minimum of 5.9%. By continuing to phase in the routine updates, CMS's 
work is ongoing to improve MA payment accuracy, with more money being 
paid to care for sicker and more costly Medicare enrollees, so that 
people in MA can continue to access to the care that they need. 
Additionally, CMS will adopt a more sophisticated methodology for how 
it normalizes risk scores to more accurately address the impacts of the 
COVID-19 pandemic without excluding data years.
    In addition, through the MA Value-Based Insurance Design (VBID) 
Model, CMS is testing a broad array of complementary MA plan 
innovations designed to reduce Medicare program expenditures, enhance 
the quality of care for Medicare beneficiaries, including those with 
low incomes such as dual-eligibles, and improve the coordination and 
efficiency of healthcare service delivery. Overall, the MA VBID Model 
contributes to the modernization of MA and tests whether these model 
components improve health outcomes and lower costs for MA enrollees.
    For plan year 2024, the MA VBID Model has 69 participating Medicare 
Advantage Organizations (MAOs) with a total of 12.4 million enrollees 
projected to be enrolled in participating plan benefit packages). Over 
8.7 million of these enrollees are projected to be offered additional 
Model benefits and/or rewards and incentives as part of the Model test 
in 2024. On March 13, 2024, CMS announced its decision to have a 
competitive application process for the MA VBID for plan year 2025, in 
order to ensure the success of the model test and safeguard against 
increased costs or decreases in quality of care.
    The MA risk adjustment data validation (RADV) program is CMS's 
primary audit and oversight tool of MA program payments. The Department 
of Health and Human Services' Office of Inspector General (HHS-OIG) 
also undertakes audits of MA organizations as part of its oversight 
functions, which are similar to RADV audits, and CMS can collect the 
improper payments identified during those audits.
    On February 1, 2023, CMS finalized policies for the RADV program 
and codified in regulation that, as part of the RADV audit methodology, 
CMS will extrapolate RADV audit findings for CMS and HHS-OIG audits 
beginning with payment year (PY) 2018 RADV audits (88 Fed. Reg. 6643-
4). CMS will collect non-extrapolated overpayment amounts identified by 
RADV audits prior to PY 2018. The finalized policies will also allow 
CMS to continue to focus its audits on those MA organizations 
identified as being at the highest risk for improper payments. In 2024, 
CMS is planning to initiate overpayment collection activities related 
to RADV audit findings and hopes to announce plans for future RADV 
audits. These activities will continue into FY 2025 and beyond, and CMS 
will continue to explore ways of strengthening and accelerating RADV 
audits.
    Question. Secretary Becerra, lung cancer remains the number one 
cancer killer in our nation, yet the current budget seems to overlook 
substantial programmatic support for combating this disease. 
Specifically, the Health Resources and Services Administration's 
Accelerating Cancer Screening program does not list lung cancer as an 
eligible topic.
    Recently, the NIH Director came to West Virginia to tour the LUCAS 
mobile screening unit at WVU, which is making significant strides in 
early detection of lung cancer, particularly in rural areas underserved 
by traditional healthcare facilities.
    Could you clarify why lung cancer initiatives, especially those 
serving rural communities, are not more prominently supported in the 
budget, and what steps the Department intends to take to address this 
vital issue in cancer care and prevention?
    Answer. The President's Budget request includes a total of $11 
million to support the provision of cancer screening services in health 
centers under the Alcee L. Hastings Program for Advanced Cancer 
Screening. The program focuses on leveraging outreach specialists and 
patient navigators to conduct patient outreach in underserved 
communities served by health centers to promote early detection of 
cancer, connect patients to screening services, and provide direct 
assistance with accessing high quality cancer care and treatment as 
needed.
    NCI remains committed to advancing research on all cancers to help 
all people live longer, healthier lives across the nation, including 
those in rural areas. This commitment extends to lung cancer, as NCI 
has long supported the advancement of lung cancer prevention, 
screening, and treatment research. NCI understands that populations in 
rural areas face increased barriers to cancer screening and care, and 
NCI will continue to fund research and support efforts to improve 
access and better address the unique needs of these communities.
    NCI support for lung cancer research has led to key scientific 
advances and public health progress, which were instrumental in guiding 
the development of lung cancer screening recommendations. The NCI-
sponsored National Lung Screening Trial (NLST) \5\ demonstrated that 
low-dose CT scans are an effective approach to screen for lung cancer 
in people at high-risk for the disease. Additionally, NCI-supported 
research continues to inform lung cancer screening guidelines issued by 
the United States Preventative Services Task Force (USPSTF), including 
USPSTF's 2021 expanded eligibility criteria for screening to age 50-80 
and to include those with 20 pack-years of smoking exposure or more.\6\
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    Increasing uptake of lung cancer screening remains a priority and 
NCI supports programs, partnerships, and individual research grants 
that reduce barriers and aim to increase screening uptake across the 
nation. Community outreach and engagement (COE) has been a fundamental 
and effective activity of NCI-designated Cancer Centers over the 
years.\7\ Through COE, Cancer Centers work with community stakeholders, 
who identify specific community needs and catalyze relevant activities 
to the Cancer Center's geographic catchment area population. For 
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  --The University of Kentucky Markey Comprehensive Cancer Center, in 
        partnership with community-based hospitals, continues to engage 
        in statewide collaborative efforts to increase lung cancer 
        screening and survivorship care, which has helped Kentucky 
        achieve the second-highest lung cancer screening rate in the 
        country, leading to a 19% reduction in the diagnosis of late-
        stage lung cancers in the state. This includes efforts underway 
        to explore partnership opportunities with other states to 
        support equitable and high-quality implementation of lung 
        cancer screening.
  --The University of Virginia Cancer Center serves 87 contiguous 
        counties across northwestern Virginia and West Virginia, where 
        30% of the population is rural. It is conducting a Telehealth 
        Lung Cancer screening program to provide radiology consults to 
        rural hospitals, leading to a sustainable pathway to screening.
  --Roswell Park Cancer Institute serves rural and Appalachian counties 
        in western New York state, and in 2022, it launched a mobile 
        lung cancer screening unit, called EDDY (Early Detection Driven 
        to You), which addresses geographic disparities in access to 
        lung cancer screening. Roswell Park is partnering with 
        federally Qualified Health Centers, government, and community-
        based organizations and is intensifying its lung cancer 
        screening initiative in 2024.
    NCI is supporting several additional research efforts, including 
projects focused on tools to facilitate physician and patient-centered 
discussions to increase screening awareness and completion. For 
example, one study is testing the impact of a genetically informed 
intervention on physicians' ordering and patients' completion of lung 
cancer screening and tobacco treatment in primary care. It plans to 
boost lung cancer screening by motivating behavior change and 
facilitating patient-centered discussions between primary care 
physicians and medically underserved patients at risk for lung 
cancer.\8\ NCI is also supporting a study that is testing the 
effectiveness of using a social media platform to reach screening-
eligible individuals and the effectiveness of a novel tailored 
screening tool to increase lung cancer screening awareness.\9\ Another 
study led by researchers at the University of Oklahoma aims to develop 
and implement a community-centered lung cancer screening system for 
American Indian/Alaskan Native populations.\10\
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    \9\ reporter.nih.gov/search/xyTHM3X6BEa0h76aF1omUg/project-details/
10712275.
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    Question. Ransomware cyber-attacks are not a new concept, but our 
government and industry has lagged far behind cyber criminals. Just 
this past February we saw the massive attack on Change Healthcare, a 
unit of UnitedHealth Group--which resulted in billions in losses for 
hospitals, pharmacies, and health providers across our county.
    For more than a decade the government has struggled to work 
individually through agencies that are responsible for their critical 
infrastructure sector, but we have failed because industry doesn't want 
to be held to a standard they believe may cut into their bottom line.
    As we're seeing service providers in every industry consolidate, 
making it easier for cyber criminals to target thousands of business 
that rely on these service providers, how are you working with the 
White House and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency 
(CISA) to put actual industry standards in place that will get us ahead 
of cyber criminals?
    Answer. The HHS Cybersecurity Working Group (CWG) regularly meets 
with CISA weekly, and as needed. The HHS CWG is composed of 
cybersecurity subject matter experts from HHS Staff and Operating 
Divisions with cybersecurity equities. Recently, the HHS CWG partnered 
with CISA to create the Cybersecurity Healthcare Toolkit to provide 
tools and resources regarding implementing cybersecurity best practices 
and industry standards to help the healthcare sector be better prepared 
to detect, respond to, and recover from cyber-attacks.
    HHS Staff and Operating Divisions with cybersecurity equities also 
meet with officials from the White House, CISA, and the Department of 
Homeland Security on specific cybersecurity issues and projects--
particularly as they relate to cybersecurity in the healthcare sector.
    Question. What type of support is being shared with smaller 
healthcare entities (such as rural hospitals) that may not have a large 
amount of cybersecurity staff and that may not be members healthcare-
related information sharing organizations?
    Answer. CMS recognizes the impact the Change Healthcare cyberattack 
has had on providers, particularly many small providers and those in 
rural areas. We are working expeditiously to do our part to ease the 
impact of the cyberattack.
    Specifically, CMS has taken several key actions to support the 
provider community during this difficult situation. CMS announced the 
availability of accelerated and advance payments for affected Medicare 
providers of services and suppliers. Providers and suppliers should 
reach out to their Medicare Administrative Contractors for more 
information or visit CMS' website for Frequently Asked Questions and 
Answers. CMS has also provided flexibility for certain Medicare 
reporting deadlines. We encourage Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part 
D plans to offer advance funding to providers, and to remove or relax 
certain timely filing and prior authorization requirements. We have 
provided flexibility for certain Medicare reporting deadlines. 
Similarly, we strongly encourage Medicaid and CHIP managed care plans 
to remove or relax prior authorization and utilization management 
requirements, and to consider offering advance funding to providers, to 
the extent permitted by the state.
    To support states and providers who rely on Medicaid, on March 15, 
2024 CMS released guidance to help states start making interim payments 
to Medicaid providers affected by the incident. Subject to certain 
guardrails to protect program integrity, CMS is encouraging state 
Medicaid programs to request authority to make certain interim 
payments.
    CMS has maintained frequent communications with United Healthcare 
and will continue to press them to communicate with the healthcare 
sector and to offer assistance to providers and suppliers to ensure 
continuity of operations for all healthcare providers and suppliers 
impacted by the incident.
    Additionally, the FY 2025 Biden-Harris Budget proposes two 
incentive structures to encourage hospitals to upgrade their 
cybersecurity practices, steadily increasing expectations from 
``essential'' to ``enhanced'' to elevate the level of hospital 
cybersecurity efforts stepwise over time and to evolve with the 
changing cybersecurity landscape.
    The cybersecurity initiative would leverage the structure of and 
provider familiarity with the Medicare Promoting Interoperability 
Program to efficiently collect information and make incentive payments 
to certain hospitals and assess penalties to strengthen the hospital 
cybersecurity response.
    This proposal first invests $800 million from the Medicare Hospital 
Insurance Trust Fund over FY 2027 and FY 2028 to approximately 2,000 
high-needs hospitals. Beginning in FY 2029, new penalties would apply 
within the Medicare Promoting Interoperability program as specific 
consequences of failing to adopt essential cybersecurity practices. 
Hospitals that fail to adopt essential cybersecurity standards face 
penalties of up to 100 percent of the annual market basket increase and 
beginning in FY 2031 potential additional penalties of up to 1 percent 
off the base payment. Critical Access Hospitals that fail to adopt the 
essential practices would incur an up to 1 percent payment reduction. 
But a Critical Access Hospital's total penalty is capped at a total of 
1 percent if it would otherwise incur higher total penalties due other 
elements of the Medicare Promoting Interoperability Program.
    The proposal also invests $500 million from the Medicare Hospital 
Insurance Trust Fund for all hospitals to implement enhanced 
cybersecurity practices, available for FY 2029 and FY 2030. Beginning 
in FY 2031, CMS would be able to add enhanced cybersecurity practices 
to the list of required cybersecurity practices, subject to a higher 
total maximum penalty level of 100 percent of the annual market basket 
increase and up to 1 percent off the base payment. Critical Access 
Hospitals would be subject to up to a 1 percent payment reduction. A 
Critical Access Hospital's total penalty is capped at a total of 1 
percent if it would otherwise incur higher total penalties due other 
elements of the Medicare Promoting Interoperability Program.
    The department's Health Sector Cybersecurity Coordination Center 
(HC3) releases public information publicly on cybersecurity threats 
through www.hhs.gov/HC3. This information is openly available to anyone 
with access to the Internet. The same cybersecurity threat information 
is also obtained and published by the Health ISAC, the American 
Hospital Association, and the College of Healthcare Information 
Management Executives (CHIME). Additionally, major threat intelligence 
platforms, such as Mandiant, Intel471, and CrowdStrike leverages HC3 
content to their postings.
    HC3 also directly distributes the same information to a variety of 
entities and associations such as:
  --Alaska State Hospital and Nursing Home
  --Arizona Center for Rural Health
  --Black Hills Information Security
  --BlueCross BlueShield Nebraska
  --BlueCross BlueShield of North Dakota
  --Colorado Rural Health Center
  --Commonwealth Healthcare Corp--CNMI
  --Idaho Department of Health and Welfare
  --Iowa Rural Health Association
  --Louisiana Office of Rural Health
  --Louisiana Rural Health Association
  --Midwest Surgical Hospital
  --Missouri Rural Health Association
  --Montana Office of Rural Health
  --Nebraska Rural Health Association
  --North Dakota CISO Office
  --North Mississippi Health Services
  --Oklahoma Information Fusion Center
  --Rural Health, Inc
  --Western Healthcare Alliance
  --Wyoming Information Analysis Team
    Information is readily and publicly available without any form of 
``membership''. Size isn't a factor regarding information sharing. HC3 
directly provides information to smaller entities and rural hospitals 
by presenting at a number of healthcare conferences. Examples include:
  --National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO)
  --Health ISAC conferences
  --KY ``SECRT'' on Cyber Exec Order
  --Colorado--2022 Annual Rural Health Conference
  --Arizona Rural Health--Cyber Threats to Rural Health
  --Oklahoma State Office of Rural Health Brief
  --Missouri Rural Health Association Quarterly meeting
  --HIMSS Hawaii/Alaska Presentation
  --Louisiana SORH--Rural Health Cybersecurity
  --HRSA-Region 6--Rural Health Cybersecurity
    For entities with limited cybersecurity resources, HC3 develops and 
delivers cyber threat products. These products are intended to inform 
the entire public and private health sector about current and emerging 
threats. These products focus on how entities can implement specific 
mitigations, patches, or system changes to enhance protection or detect 
malicious activities. As an example, in 2023, HC3 released 63 of these 
products. No less than 1,500 partners including rural health centers, 
state-based insurance companies, hospitals (large and small), and 
nursing home systems received this information.
    As an added level of support, HC3 also partners with the CISA to 
conduct facilitated table top exercises enabling organizations process 
to test their cyber resilience.
    HHS OCR administers and enforces the HIPAA Security Rule. Please 
see response to question 21 about the HIPAA Security Rule, and OCR's 
plans to propose modifications to the Security Rule.
    OCR also provides numerous guidance materials to assist HIPAA 
covered entities and business associates in complying with the Security 
Rule. Last year, OCR published a webinar on complying with the HIPAA 
Security Risk Analysis requirement, a foundational step in 
cybersecurity and protecting electronic protected health information 
(ePHI). This webinar explained how to prepare a risk analysis, how ePHI 
should be assessed, what it means to be ``accurate and thorough'', and 
examples of risk analysis deficiencies from OCR investigations. OCR 
also published a video on ``How the HIPAA Security Rule Can Help Defend 
Against Cyber-Attacks'', which provides information on trends in 
reported breaches, common attack vectors, and examples from OCR 
investigations. Additionally, OCR published two newsletters including 
one which explained single and multi-factor authentication, the 
Security Rule requirements, and resources for improving authentication 
requirements. The second newsletter addressed Security Rule enforcement 
policies and how they can improve HIPAA compliance.
    HHS also offers a free Security Risk Assessment Tool that is 
designed to help small and medium sized healthcare providers conduct a 
risk analysis as required by the HIPAA Security Rule. Identifying and 
assessing potential risks and vulnerabilities to ePHI is foundational 
to implementing security measures to protect ePHI.
    All of these materials are available on the HHS and OCR websites.
    ASPR, as the Sector Risk Management Agency for the Healthcare and 
Public Health Sector (HPH), is lead for certain activities related to 
engaging and informing the healthcare sector. On February 27, 2024, 
HHS, along with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency 
(CISA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), released an 
updated joint cybersecurity advisory (CSA) on ALPHV Blackcat 
ransomware, which includes recently and historically observed tactics, 
techniques, and procedures (TTPs) and indicators of compromise (IOCs) 
to help organizations protect against ransomware. ASPR facilitates 
interagency coordination engagements, including regular, sometimes 
daily, calls in support of incident response. This allowed us to 
coordinate with U.S. government (USG) partners, including the FBI, 
CISA, Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), DoD, and others.
    HHS has been sounding the alarm on the increased need for 
healthcare sector cybersecurity resiliency, and in December 2023, HHS 
released a concept paper that outlined the Department's holistic 
cybersecurity strategy for the HPH. Towards the end of January, we 
released the voluntary HPH cybersecurity performance goals (CPGs), 
aligned with the first pillar of this strategy. We also rolled out a 
new gateway website as part of our efforts to establish the one- stop-
shop for HHS cyber and simplify how the sector can access our resources 
and tools across all HHS divisions. These HPH CPGs will help healthcare 
organizations implement high-impact cybersecurity practices and ease 
access to the many cybersecurity resources HHS and other Federal 
partners offer. In the coming weeks and months as we emerge from this 
attack, we will be focused on developing additional tools, resources, 
and guidance to help with implementing these HPH CPGs and look forward 
to working with the sector to help improve its cybersecurity posture. 
We also launched the 2.0 version of our RISC Toolkit to the sector. It 
allows a system of systems risk assessment instead of focusing on a 
specific hospital.
    It is important to note that this cyber-attack was of a private 
company, Change Healthcare, and not of HHS systems. We continue to 
engage regularly with the healthcare sector and are urging UnitedHealth 
Group (UHG), clearinghouses, insurance companies, and other payers to 
do everything they can to maintain patients' access to care and support 
providers.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, the West Virginia Prevention Research 
Center (WVPRC) based at West Virginia University, funded continuously 
since 1995, has been part of a National Network of 26 Prevention 
Centers competitively funded by the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention. Over the years, the Center has served as a transformative 
force that conducts and translates innovative community-engaged 
research into practical solutions to improve health in WV with emphasis 
on rural and/or child mental health and substance abuse prevention.
    I have been a long champion of funding the CDC Prevention Research 
Center. I was greatly disappointed to learn that the WVPRC was one of 
eleven currently funded Centers whose applications were approved but 
not funded for the 2024-2029 cycle. This results in the loss of a 
$5,000,000 award over the next 5 years, significantly limiting the 
WVPRC's momentum to impact public health, especially in the area of 
youth mental and substance abuse prevention in high impact areas in 
West Virginia.
    Since its inception, the WVPRC's rural Appalachian focus has helped 
to create a West Virginia where everyone is empowered with the 
knowledge and support, they need to live their healthiest lives 
possible. With guidance from a long-standing statewide Community 
Partnership Board, the WVPRC has made positive impacts across WV by 
conducting nationally and internationally recognized youth substance 
abuse prevention research, fostering local capacity for addressing 
critical health needs through training and technical support, and 
providing state and local public health and education agencies with 
evaluation services in school-based mental health and chronic disease 
that share WV's emphasis on rural and/or child mental health and 
substance abuse prevention.
    As you are aware, there are currently 26 PRCs currently funded 
under the Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion account in 
the current five-year cycle. While funding for the PRC program has 
increased from $27 million in FY 2022 to $29 million in FY 2023 and 
2024, please explain why CDC reduced the number of funded PRCs from 26 
to 20 for 2024-2029?
    Answer. CDC is funding 20 recipients this cycle (FY 2024-2029) at 
$1 million per award ($20 million per year). This is six fewer than the 
26 recipients funded from FY 2019-2024, however, those awards were only 
$750,000 per award ($19.5 million per year). CDC is increasing the 
amount of funding per award due to additional expectations and 
requirements in this NOFO, which includes additional activities for 
collaboration and elevating the impact of the PRC network, as well as a 
focus on dissemination and implementation science to accelerate 
adoption of promising interventions. Increasing individual award 
amounts also aligns with long-standing recommendations from the field, 
including the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine, 
and the Association of Schools and Programs of Public Health.
    Question. The Appalachian region consistently ranks high in 
incidences of disease, injury, and poor health behaviors. Of the 20 
PRCs funded in the new FY 2024-2029 cycle, only three are rural focused 
and only one in Appalachia is located at the University of Pittsburgh, 
which is primarily urban-focused on aging issues. Can you explain why 
rural Appalachia has no representation in the new funding cycle?
    Answer. The 20 funded PRCs were ranked based on the review criteria 
described in the NOFO, and a quarter of PRC-funded projects in the new 
cycle will include rural populations. Geographic distribution was one 
of several factors considered for funding recommendations. As stated in 
the NOFO, those factors included the scientific and technical merit of 
the proposed project, as determined by scientific peer review; the 
availability of funds; the relevance of the proposed project to program 
priorities; a selection to ensure that the PRC core research projects 
address a variety of chronic disease prevention priority categories 
indicated in the NOFO; and a selection to ensure equitable geographic 
distribution of PRCs across the United States.
    Question. Are you aware of the USDA Economic Research Service March 
2024 report entitled ``The Nature of the Rural-Urban Mortality Gap''-- 
https://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/pub-details/?pubid=108701--that 
finds there is a growing natural-cause mortality gaps between rural and 
urban areas of the country, with rural prime working age population 
experiencing substantial increase in NCM rates? In light of this 
report, does it make sense to scale back rural-focused PRCs? Is the 
Administration prepared to invest in rural health research to 
understand why mortality in rural America is so much higher than that 
in urban America?
    Answer. While the number of awards has been reduced overall, there 
will still be a quarter of PRC-funded projects, including rural 
populations on a variety of health priority areas. Each PRC cycle 
brings new core research proposals with new opportunities.
    Additionally, the CDC Office of Rural Health (ORH), with its 
mission to coordinate rural public health activity across the agency, 
works with CDC researchers to identify and address gaps in rural-
focused research. The agency continues to conduct such research across 
an array of topics outside the PRC network. Moreover, ORH collaborates 
with HRSA's Federal Office of Rural Health Policy (FORHP) to conduct 
additional research into rural health disparities, which can provide 
more insight into rural-urban differences in health outcomes.
    Question. The 2024-2029 cycle includes three PRCs in Atlanta--Emory 
University, the Morehouse School of Medicine, and Georgia State 
University, all of which are in close proximity to CDC Headquarters. 
How do you justify funding three PRCs in the Atlanta region in the 
2024-2029 cycle, while the PRCs in West Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, 
Chicago, and Maryland with emphasis on rural and/or child mental health 
and substance abuse prevention and that have broad geographical 
representation did not make the payline?
    Answer. The PRC applications were reviewed by a Special Emphasis 
Panel (SEP) consisting of external, primarily non-Federal scientists 
for initial scientific and technical merit of the proposed project. 
Additionally, selection to ensure that the PRC core research projects 
addressed a variety of chronic disease prevention program priorities 
was applied
    Question. What level of FY 2025 funding would be required for CDC 
to award the approved, but unfunded proposals?
    Answer. CDC is funding 20 PRC recipients this cycle (FY 2024-2029) 
at $1 million per award ($20 million per year). This is six fewer than 
the 26 recipients funded from FY 2019-2024, however, those awards were 
only $750,000 per award ($19.5 million per year). With additional 
funding for awardees and program support, CDC could fund the entire 
approved but unfunded list of 15 additional PRCs.
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          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
    Question. The budget continues a focus on the Cancer Moonshot and 
continues efforts to accelerate smoking cessation.
    What is the Department doing to encourage new innovations 
surrounding smoking cessation, including new products or therapies that 
may be more successful in helping people quit than those currently on 
the market?
    Answer. Supporting innovative strategies to accelerate smoking 
cessation is an important priority for HHS, including the National 
Cancer Institute (NCI), the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), 
and the Office of Disease Prevention (ODP) within NIH. The Department 
recently published the HHS Framework to Support and Accelerate Smoking 
Cessation,\11\ which provides a unifying vision and set of common goals 
to help drive progress towards cessation, especially in populations and 
communities that experience smoking- and cessation-related disparities. 
NCI, NIDA, and the ODP helped to develop this framework and have been 
key contributors to a whole-of-government effort through the Cancer 
Moonshot, to increase access to smoking cessation treatment, in 
coordination with the President's Cancer Cabinet and the White House's 
Office of Science and Technology Policy.
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    The NCI Tobacco Control Research Branch (TCRB) also funds clinical 
trials examining novel pharmacological treatment strategies to optimize 
the efficacy of FDA-approved smoking cessation medications. For 
example, TCRB currently funds a comparative effectiveness trial 
designed to evaluate whether delivering an extended course of 
varenicline treatment, versus the standard course, improves smoking 
cessation outcomes among adult African-American smokers.\12\ 
Additionally, NCI and NIDA have recently developed a funding 
opportunity, ``Advancing Adolescent Tobacco Cessation Intervention 
Research,'' \13\ to support studies that develop, test, implement, and 
evaluate behavioral tobacco cessation interventions for adolescents, 
with a focus on the critical developmental risk period of mid- to late 
adolescence (approximately 14--20 years old). This funding opportunity 
aimed to address the critical need for empirically validated tobacco 
cessation interventions for adolescents. The last round of this funding 
opportunity closed in October 2023, and applications are currently 
under review.
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    NIDA is funding research on novel therapeutics and behavioral 
interventions for tobacco cessation. A multi-site randomized clinical 
trial is underway testing psilocybin for smoking cessation.\14\ Another 
study is following up on promising preclinical data to examine the 
effects of a ketamine infusion on craving and tobacco cessation in 
people who smoke.\15\ NIDA-funded researchers are also conducting a 
study using transcranial magnetic stimulation to modulate brain 
circuitry in people with co-occurring tobacco use disorder and 
schizophrenia and test if this treatment helps people to decrease or 
quit smoking.\16\ To help address adolescent nicotine vaping, NIDA is 
supporting a clinical trial testing varenicline, an FDA-approved 
treatment for smoking cessation in adults, to determine if it can help 
adolescents who vape nicotine and want to quit.\17\ NIDA is also 
funding a project developing a brief behavioral activation mobile app 
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    FDA's Center for Drugs Evaluation and Research has approved several 
safe and effective smoking cessation therapies including some nicotine 
replacement therapies (NRTs) that are available without the need for a 
prescription (i.e., over-the-counter). FDA considers tobacco dependence 
to be a serious, life-threatening condition and is committed to 
increasing access to and use of therapies, including NRT drug products, 
which could help more smokers quit. At the same time, FDA also 
recognizes the strong addictive characteristics of nicotine that make 
it challenging for smokers to quit, or if successful in quitting, to 
maintain abstinence. For this reason, smoking cessation drug therapies 
are all approved with adjunctive behavioral assistance, such as website 
and additional self-help guides. The reasons for low quit rate success 
include multiple factors unrelated to availability of safe and 
effective smoking cessation products, such as nicotine withdrawal, 
weight gain, and inaccessibility to effective therapies due to 
individual financial circumstances or insurance coverage. For these 
reasons, a multipronged approach to decreasing smoking in the United 
States is needed. To that end, FDA is currently collaborating with NIH 
to understand research needs in the areas of nicotine dependence, 
factors leading to smoking initiation in nonsmokers, novel targets for 
intervention, and innovative study trial designs. Methods to increase 
participation in clinical trials and smoking cessation interventions 
are also needed, particularly in patient communities that are 
disproportionately affected by smoking and its health-related 
consequences.
    As tobacco dependence results in many serious or life-threatening 
conditions (e.g., heart and lung disease and cancer), FDA recognizes 
there is an unmet need for novel therapies particularly for individuals 
who have not been able to quit despite available therapies. The Agency 
determines on a case-by-case basis whether a drug product meets the 
criteria (e.g., the drug represents a significant improvement over 
existing therapies, or addresses an unmet medical need) for inclusion 
in FDA's expedited development and review pathways. FDA encourages a 
sponsor that believes its drug product represents a significant 
improvement over approved smoking cessation drug products to consult 
FDA early in the development program to discuss whether the drug 
product may be eligible for review under one of the expedited pathways.
    In certain cases, a sponsor can rely on FDA's finding of safety and 
effectiveness for a drug product approved under section 505(c) of the 
FD&C Act to the extent the products share characteristics. An 
application submitted under the abbreviated approval pathway described 
in section 505(b)(2) of the FD&C Act may rely on published literature 
or FDA's finding of safety and effectiveness for an approved drug, when 
certain requirements are met.
    In addition to guidance in 2020 on Nonclinical Testing of Orally 
Inhaled Nicotine-Containing Drug Products,\19\ in May 2023, FDA issued 
final guidance entitled, Smoking Cessation and Related Indications: 
Developing Nicotine Replacement Therapy [NRT] Drug Products,\20\ which 
outlines a framework for new potentially clinically relevant outcomes 
for NRT products. The NRT Guidance discusses innovations in NRT drug 
development and provides a clear roadmap to help firms that are 
considering entering or expanding in the NRT drug product space. The 
guidance outlines opportunities for innovation including:
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  --For the first time, discussing ``reduction in risk of relapse'' as 
        a potential indication to assist smokers in their continuation 
        of quitting. Previously, the only approved indication was 
        cessation.
  --Outlining two new potential treatment regimens: (1) pretreatment 
        before quit day, and (2) reduce to quit. Industry may be able 
        to include information about these regimens in their labeling.
  --For the first time, outlining considerations for pediatric 
        populations and NRT products.
  --For the first time, outlining pathways for developing new treatment 
        regimens, including combination therapy.
  --Clearly outlining abbreviated pathways for NRT products, including 
        how to use FDA's previous findings of safety and how already 
        approved NRT products and published literature can be 
        leveraged. This includes reliance on the Agency's previous 
        findings of systemic safety for the higher nicotine exposure 
        drug product and Agency's previous finding of effectiveness for 
        the lower nicotine exposure drug product.
  --Explaining when simplified efficacy study requirements may be used 
        (e.g., recommending a 4-week study as the minimum period of 
        efficacy ascertainment).
  --Encouraging sponsors to consider expedited development and review 
        pathways and providing details on how to qualify.
  --Clarifying the appropriate pathways for companies that seek 
        approval for a product that alters the route of administration 
        compared to approved NRT drug products (e.g., products with 
        pulmonary route of administration rather than oral).
  --Describing how labeling for approved NRT products may include 
        information about clinical benefits of smoking cessation such 
        as lowering the risk of lung disease, heart disease and 
        smoking-related cancers without generating additional data.
    Additionally, FDA's Center for Tobacco Products regulates the 
manufacturing, marketing, distribution, and sale of tobacco products. 
Educating the public, especially youth, about the risks of using 
tobacco products, is a critical part of FDA's public health mission. 
CTP prioritized research efforts throughout the past year to inform 
public education opportunities for adults who smoke, recognizing that 
adults also want and need help as they attempt to quit smoking. For 
example, CTP is conducting formative research among adults who smoke to 
assess their comprehension and perceptions of messaging that nicotine--
while highly addictive--is delivered through products that represent a 
continuum of risk, and that combustible products such as cigarettes 
have the greatest risk. Importantly, these efforts will be accompanied 
by efforts to prevent youth tobacco product use; encourage first-line 
use of FDA-approved cessation therapies; and for adults who both smoke 
and use e-cigarettes, reinforce the importance of completely 
transitioning to e-cigarettes.
    CDC, in alignment with the HHS Framework to Support and Accelerate 
Smoking Cessation, is taking action to support and accelerate smoking 
cessation and reduce smoking- and cessation- related disparities. In FY 
2025, CDC's Tips From Former Smokers (Tips) campaign will continue to 
focus on motivating U.S. adults who smoke to try to quit. Ads will be 
placed on national broadcast, cable, and streaming video, and on 
digital and social media channels. Additional ads will be placed on a 
variety of channels to reach specific audiences, including people who 
are African American, American Indian, Alaska Native, Hispanic/Latino, 
Asian, Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islanders, LGBTQ+, and deaf or 
hard-of-hearing. Launched in FY 2024, CDC will continue to fund a 
community-based program to increase awareness of cessation services and 
coverage options among populations experiencing health disparities. 
CDC, in partnership with the American Academy of Pediatrics, will 
continue to promote resources to assist pediatric health clinicians in 
helping youth quit tobacco use.
    Question. Opioids continue to be a major public health problem 
across the nation. It is my understanding that there are nonopioid pain 
medications in the pipeline that are close to receiving approval.
    What is the Department doing to ensure nonopioids will be covered 
once approved by the FDA in a way that will put them on a level playing 
field with generic opioids?
    Answer. Substance use disorders (SUD) impact the lives of millions 
of Americans, including individuals who are enrolled in the Medicare 
program. CMS is committed to ensuring that Medicare beneficiaries who 
have an opioid use disorder (OUD) have the necessary access to 
treatment, including medications for opioid use disorder (MOUD). 
Ensuring access to these benefits and addressing equity concerns is an 
important part of combatting the nation's opioid epidemic, and CMS has 
been actively engaged in the work necessary to meet these goals.
    CMS is pleased to note that the OIG report entitled, ``The 
Consistently Low Percentage of Medicare Enrollees Receiving Medication 
to Treat Their Opioid Use Disorder Remains a Concern, OEI-02-23-00250'' 
found a 36 percent increase in the number of enrollees receiving 
naloxone through Medicare from 2021 to 2022 and found that indicators 
of misuse and diversion of prescription opioids in Part D continued to 
decline. However, CMS also recognizes there is more work to do in 
increasing access to OUD treatment and addressing health equity.
    Several recent changes have expanded Medicare beneficiaries' access 
to MOUD. First, on January 1, 2020, Medicare began paying Medicare-
enrolled Opioid Treatment Programs (OTPs) with a bundled payment to 
deliver OUD treatment services to Medicare beneficiaries as required by 
the Substance Use Disorder Prevention that Promotes Opioid Recovery and 
Treatment for Patients and Communities (SUPPORT) Act. Medicare 
Advantage plans must also include the Medicare OTP benefit and can 
contract with OTP providers in their service area, or agree to pay an 
OTP on a non-contract basis. To further promote continuity of care, in 
addition to on-site treatment, OTPs may also provide beneficiaries with 
unsupervised take-home doses of medication in accordance with certain 
time in treatment standards.
    Second, effective December 29, 2022, providers with a current Drug 
Enforcement Administration (DEA) registration no longer need the DATA-
Waiver (X-Waiver) from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services 
Administration (SAMHSA) to prescribe buprenorphine, a type of MOUD 
treatment, strengthening Medicare providers' ability to care for 
beneficiaries with OUDs.
    Finally, in March 2023, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 
announced that Narcan, a brand-name formulation of the opioid overdose 
reversal drug naloxone, would be available without a prescription. 
While Medicare Part D generally does not cover over-the-counter 
medications, this change will remove barriers to access by allowing 
beneficiaries to purchase the medication without first meeting with a 
provider. Other options for Medicare-covered naloxone will remain 
available, such as other formulations or dosages of naloxone that 
remain prescription drugs, as well as other overdose reversal 
medications.
    CMS will continue to monitor use of, and access to, these 
medications. CMS monitors prescription drug use in Part D (including 
over-utilization and/or under-utilization of opioids, buprenorphine, 
and MOUD) through prescription drug event (PDE) data to oversee 
sponsors' compliance with drug utilization review (DUR) requirements as 
described in 42 CFR Sec. 423.153. CMS also monitors complaints in the 
Complaints Tracking Module (CTM) in the Health Plan Management System 
to identify potential access issues. CMS may follow up with Part D plan 
sponsors that are outliers, or share information with Departmental 
partners, as appropriate.
    Combatting the opioid epidemic is a top priority for CMS, and CMS 
remains committed to ongoing examination of its payment and coverage 
policies to ensure healthcare providers are enabled to execute best 
practices with respect to pain management and treatment of OUDs. CMS 
continues to support opioid alternatives offered by Traditional 
Medicare, MA plans, and Part D plans, including the coverage of 
acupuncture to address lower back pain and educating providers on other 
non-opioid alternatives.
    Question. Medicare's seniors no longer have to worry about cost-
sharing when they get a vaccination--regardless of whether it comes 
under their medical benefit in their plan or their pharmacy benefit. 
Now, I am hearing that some Part D plans and PBMs could be placing new 
barriers like differential pharmacy reimbursement and utilization 
management in the way of some of these vaccines. CMS issued a letter to 
plans on December 14, working to share the agency's perspective on 
issue.
    Are you aware of this issue and what is next for CMS in resolving 
any new access barriers for seniors?
    Answer. CMS is continuing to work to improve the Medicare Advantage 
and Part D prescription drug programs and maintain high-quality 
healthcare coverage choices for all Medicare enrollees.
    In a December 14, 2023 letter to pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) 
and health plans, CMS noted concerns from pharmacies that the amount 
plan sponsors and PBMs that serve plans in Medicare and other markets 
pay pharmacies for some vaccine administrations is causing many 
pharmacies and other providers of vaccines to lose money administering 
vaccines, discouraging them from providing these vaccines. Particularly 
as we encourage people to get vaccinated against influenza, COVID-19, 
and RSV, CMS is very concerned about payment practices that may impede 
access to recommended vaccinations, and it is imperative that plans and 
PBMs take immediate steps to ensure adequate payment for and access to 
vaccines.
    CMS maintains, and will continue to maintain, a robust clinical 
formulary review process to ensure that all Medicare Part D plans meet 
applicable formulary requirements. Consistent with the requirements at 
42 C.F.R. Sec. Sec. 423.120(b)(2) and 423.272(b)(2)(i), CMS evaluates 
formularies based on the sufficiency of categories and classes, tier 
placement, and utilization management restrictions. This review process 
is based in part on section 1860D-11(e)(2)(D)(i) of the Social Security 
Act, which authorizes CMS to approve a prescription drug plan only if 
the agency ``does not find that the design of the plan and its benefits 
(including any formulary and tiered formulary structure) are likely to 
substantially discourage enrollment by certain part D eligible 
individuals under the plan.'' In addition, under Sec. 423.272(b)(2)(i), 
``CMS does not approve a bid if it finds that the design of the plan 
and its benefits (including any formulary and tiered formulary 
structure) or its utilization management program are likely to 
substantially discourage enrollment by certain Part D eligible 
individuals under the plan.'' Furthermore, Sec. 423.120(b)(2)(iii) 
requires each Part D plan formulary to ``include adequate coverage of 
the types of drugs most commonly needed by Part D enrollees, as 
recognized in national treatment guidelines.'' In addition, 
Sec. 423.120(b)(1)(v) requires that in making decisions about formulary 
design, the entity designing the formulary must base ``clinical 
decisions on the strength of scientific evidence and standards of 
practice.''
    Specifically for vaccines, CMS reviews all Part D sponsors' 
formularies to ensure they contain all commercially available vaccines 
(unless excluded due to available reimbursement under Part B, e.g., 
influenza or pneumococcal vaccines, or if a commercially available 
vaccine manufacturer does not participate in the coverage gap discount 
program). Part D sponsors are only allowed to use drug utilization 
management tools to:
  --Assess the necessity of vaccines that are less commonly 
        administered in the Medicare population, such as anthrax and 
        yellow fever vaccines;
  --Facilitate use of vaccines in line with Advisory Committee on 
        Immunization Practices recommendations; and
  --Evaluate potential reimbursement of those vaccines that could be 
        covered under Part B when directly related to the treatment of 
        an injury or direct exposure to a disease or condition (e.g., 
        tetanus).
    Additionally, CMS requires Part D sponsors to submit utilization 
management requirements applied at point of sale, such as prior 
authorization, step therapy, and quantity limits not based upon the 
FDA's maximum daily dose limits, as part of their Health Plan 
Management System formulary submission. Sponsors must perform adequate 
oversight of their PBMs and other delegated entities to verify that 
they are complying with all CMS requirements and not causing 
beneficiary harm due to impermissible delayed or denied access to Part 
D drugs.
    Question. How important is the Building Our Largest Dementia (BOLD) 
Infrastructure for Alzheimer's Act to our healthcare system as it 
pertains to helping health agencies and departments care for people 
living with Alzheimer's and their caregivers? Considering this program 
is coming up for reauthorization this year, would you support its 
reauthorization? Why?
    Answer. NIH funds and conducts research to better understand the 
complex and varied causes of Alzheimer's and related dementias, 
identify early signs of disease, develop effective interventions to 
prevent or delay disease progression, and improve care and support for 
those living with dementia as well as their care partners.
Workforce Readiness
    NIH remains committed to address the critical need to increase the 
number of health professionals and researchers trained to meet the 
demand for dementia diagnosis, care, and research. In addition, NIH 
maintains dementia resource pages for healthcare professionals with 
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    NIH funds research to develop a robust evidence base for dementia 
treatments and services. Efforts include funding for more than 500 
ongoing clinical trials, including pharmacological and non-
pharmacological clinical trials that test interventions that treat or 
prevent dementia, as well as care and caregiving interventions to 
provide support to people currently living with dementia and their care 
partners in a variety of settings. In addition, NIH continues to 
support the development of less expensive and less invasive biomarkers 
and diagnostics, which can help facilitate and enhance access to 
earlier and more accurate detection and diagnosis of dementia.
    BOLD is integral to helping health agencies and departments care 
for people living with Alzheimer's and their caregivers. It 
accomplishes this primarily through two BOLD-funded mechanisms: 
Alzheimer's and Related Dementias (ADRD) Public Health Centers of 
Excellence (PHCE) and Public Health Department programs.
    The three BOLD-funded ADRD PHCEs identify promising research and 
translate it into evidence-based intervention programs for health 
agencies and departments, focusing on dementia caregiving, risk 
reduction, and early detection. For example, the BOLD Public Health 
Center of Excellence on Early Detection of Dementia created an 
educational toolkit for health systems. This toolkit provides 
information on why early detection matters, the importance of preparing 
for cognitive screening, and ensuring continuity of care after 
detection.
    CDC supports 43 Public Health Department programs. These state, 
local, territorial, and tribal organizations implement the Road Map 
series, an essential resource for building public health infrastructure 
among state and local public health agencies addressing dementia and 
brain health in their communities. Thirteen focus on developing 
strategic plans and improving their ability to treat and address 
dementia. Thirty focus on implementing their strategic plans to address 
dementia in their jurisdictions. With the FY 2023 increase in 
appropriations ($8M), CDC expanded from 23 awards in the original 2020 
cohort of BOLD programs to 43 in 2023.
    There is more demand than we can currently meet from the field--
those 43 awards were drawn from 60 applications received. As the older 
population continues to grow and the number of people living with 
dementia increases, we anticipate that the demand for BOLD funding will 
also grow, especially since state, local, and tribal public health 
departments are all grappling with the same challenges and many more 
are eligible for BOLD program funding. For this reason, reauthorization 
of BOLD is critical to CDC's efforts to continue helping health 
agencies and departments care for people living with Alzheimer's and 
their caregivers.
    Question. I am working to introduce, along with my colleague 
Senator Klobuchar, the Accelerating Access to Dementia & Alzheimer's 
Provider Training (AADAPT) Act, which will empower primary care 
providers to better diagnose Alzheimer's and other dementia and deliver 
high-quality, person-centered care in community-based settings. My bill 
provides grants to organizations to set up dementia-specific Project 
ECHO programs to educate and support primary care providers in 
detecting, diagnosing, treating, and caring for Alzheimer's and other 
related dementia. As we see the population aging and the number of 
people living with dementia increasing, how is HHS working to ensure 
workforce readiness and access to treatments and services for people 
living with dementia?
    Answer. HHS works to ensure workforce readiness and access to 
treatment and services for people living with dementia through the 
previously mentioned BOLD initiative, particularly the three BOLD-
funded ADRD PHCEs. These PHCEs identify promising research and 
translate it into evidence-based intervention programs for health 
agencies and departments. For example, the BOLD Public Health Center of 
Excellence on Early Detection of Dementia created an educational 
toolkit for clinicians, administrators, and patients. This toolkit 
provides information on why early detection matters, the importance of 
preparing for cognitive screening, and ensuring continuity of care 
after detection. BOLD funds also support partner dissemination of 
continuing education programs for healthcare providers, such as the 
Cognition in Primary Care course. This is a three-part interactive 
module designed for primary care physicians that helps them to evaluate 
cognition, set a plan for newly diagnosed patients, and provide tips 
for managing mild cognitive impairment and dementia.
    In addition to the workforce capacity-building included in CDC's 
BOLD initiative, HHS ensures workforce readiness and access to 
treatment and services for people living with dementia through work 
under the National Healthy Brain Initiative (HBI). CDC funds the 
Alzheimer's Association to assist with the implementation and 
evaluation of the HBI's Road Map Series and with the development of 
future Road Maps. They have also created several training courses for 
current and future public health professionals on a public health 
approach to addressing dementia, dementia caregiving, and risk 
reduction.
    Public health agencies and their partners can use the Road Map 
strategically to prepare their communities to be ``dementia-ready'' by 
stimulating changes in systems and environments. The HBI Road Map 
includes sections based on four Essential Services of Public Health, 
including building a diverse and skilled workforce.
    Question. What efforts, if any, are ongoing to determine whether 
the H5N1 virus may be circulating in people asymptomatically or 
undiagnosed? To what extent is the CDC leveraging its advanced 
molecular detection program for this purpose?
    Answer. far, influenza public health or commercial laboratory data 
in the areas with H5N1-infected dairy herds, and emergency department 
visits for influenza-like illness and conjunctivitis remain in expected 
ranges. In addition to traditional surveillance systems, we are also 
exploring through CDC's National Wastewater Surveillance System the 
potential to identify and investigate trends in influenza A levels in 
wastewater.
    CDC is developing and finalizing a research study protocol to 
assess the prevalence of H5N1 among dairy workers. Analysis of data 
from a study using this protocol would inform CDC and states as to 
whether there is asymptomatic or undiagnosed spread of H5N1.
    Additionally, CDC's SPHERES SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health 
Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance (SPHERES) consortium 
and Pathogen Genomics Centers of Excellence (PGCoE) programs allow us 
to leverage advanced molecular detection in response to H5N1.
    CDC's Advanced Molecular Detection (AMD) program has been working 
to bring sequencing into regular public health practice since 2014. In 
2020, the AMD program established the SPHERES consortium as a forum to 
facilitate knowledge sharing around SARS-CoV-2 sequencing. SPHERES 
brings together scientists from clinical and public health 
laboratories, academic institutions, and the private sector for 
discussions around interdisciplinary and innovative research and 
applied public health pathogen genomics, bioinformatics, and genomic 
epidemiology. SPHERES shares information about ongoing work across 
sectors that advances opportunities for collaboration as we respond to 
and continue to learn more about the outbreak.
    In addition, CDC's AMD program established five PGCoE in 2022 to 
foster innovation and improve technical capacity in pathogen genomics, 
molecular epidemiology, and bioinformatics to better prevent, control, 
and respond to microbial threats of public health importance. Each 
PGCoE site consists of a health department and one or more academic 
institutions, and two of these PGCoE sites are focusing on One Health 
approaches--at the interface of animals, humans, and the environment--
to help protect human health against the risk of zoonotic pathogens. 
For example, the Washington Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory used 
funding awarded to the Northwest PGCoE to build genomic sequencing 
capacity for surveillance of highly pathogenic avian influenza in 
animals. As a result, Washington unified sequencing protocols across 
veterinary and human health to monitor and detect spillover events, 
assess the risk of mammal- to-mammal transmission, and stop threats 
before they spread to humans.
    Question. How are CDC and the ASPR coordinating right now and what 
preparedness steps are they taking in the event the level of risk is 
elevated with regard to H5N1? CDC, ASPR, and FDA officials have 
expressed confidence in the pandemic influenza medical countermeasures 
available in the U.S. Please provide a description of the available 
vaccines, antivirals, and diagnostics.
    Answer. As part of the current coordinated U.S. government response 
to the H5N1 outbreak in cattle, CDC is working closely with our Federal 
partners, including the Office of Pandemic Preparedness and Response 
Policy (OPPR), ASPR, USDA, and FDA. CDC has liaisons from USDA, ASPR, 
and FDA integrated into CDC's incident command structure, and CDC 
communicates on an ad-hoc basis to share technical information across 
relevant agencies.
    Since we first detected H5N1 in cattle herds, the interagency group 
has acted with urgency--working around the clock to stand up a response 
structure across HHS, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), and 
the White House. A Unified Coordination Group facilitates the 
coordination, with ASPR in the lead on human health and USDA in the 
lead on animal health.
    As the outbreak continues, this initial response structure has 
allowed us to focus on coordinated communication and decisionmaking 
across the Federal government. The focus throughout our response has 
been: protecting the health of the American people; protecting the 
safety of our food supply; acting urgently; and taking this seriously.
    ASPR, FDA, CDC, and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) each 
have important roles to play in the response, along with our USDA 
colleagues. FDA and NIH are working together on the efficacy of 
pasteurization and milk safety studies. CDC is working on surveillance 
of H5N1 and foodborne illnesses and has worked to expand those systems 
during this response. And ASPR, in addition to coordinating the 
Department's response, has provided PPE to impacted states, made 
antivirals available to those needing treatment, and is working to 
ensure well-matched vaccines are available if needed.
    Fortunately, the risk to humans remains low, but we remain watchful 
and ever ready as we work across the Federal government to respond to 
this avian flu outbreak and keep the American people safe.
    Question. The HHS Pandemic Influenza Plan was last updated in 2017. 
Based on the many challenges of the national COVID-19 response, is HHS 
confident that executing against this plan will be effective?
    Answer.
  --The FDA is actively engaged with Federal partners, as well as 
        industry, in assessing the currently U.S.-approved pandemic 
        influenza vaccines, as well as the evaluation of potential 
        vaccine candidates, should the need for vaccines arise.
  --The FDA has approved three H5N1 vaccines for use in the U.S. The 
        manufacturers of those vaccines are Sanofi Pasteur Inc., ID 
        Biomedical Corporation of Quebec, and Seqirus, Inc.
  --If it is determined that the U.S. population needs to be vaccinated 
        to prevent H5N1 influenza, then the anticipated regulatory 
        pathway would likely be for those manufacturers who have an 
        approved H5N1 influenza vaccine to submit a manufacturing 
        strain change supplement to FDA, as occurs for the seasonal 
        influenza vaccines.
  --FDA has provided Guidance to Industry on Clinical Data Needed to 
        Support Licensure of Pandemic Influenza Vaccines.
    Additionally, the Biologics Program's Influenza Performance measure 
supports the Department's national preparedness efforts in combating 
seasonal and pandemic influenza, by increasing manufacturing diversity 
and capacity for influenza vaccine production. In FY 2023, FDA met the 
target to continue evaluation of new methods to produce high-yield 
influenza vaccine reference strains. The Agency aims to maintain this 
target in FY 2024 and FY 2025.
    Activities to meet this target included the following:
  --FDA continued efforts to develop new methods for determining 
        influenza vaccine potency, an important component in the 
        evaluation of high-yield influenza vaccine viruses. A new 
        international collaborative study, designed to compare several 
        alternative potency methods and evaluate their potential to 
        quantify sub-potent vaccine using a variety of stress methods, 
        was completed in FY2022.
  --An H5N8 candidate vaccine virus for a recently identified H5N8 
        influenza virus with pandemic potential that was generated in 
        FY2021 was further characterized and listed on the WHO website 
        for interested manufacturers.
  --Demonstrated that candidate vaccine viruses for influenza viruses 
        with pandemic potential (e.g., H7N9) do not acquire adaptive 
        mutations when generated in egg substrates.
  --Continued efforts to evaluate neuraminidase (NA) in circulating 
        viruses and the impact of including NA in candidate vaccines. 
        Showed that a candidate vaccine virus engineered for higher NA 
        antigen content could provide protection in animal models with 
        a lower vaccine dose. Continued collaborations with the NIH 
        Vaccine Research Center to assist in producing recombinant NA 
        for vaccines and for measuring NA responses from individuals in 
        clinical trials.
  --Continued development of new methods to purify and quantify NA in 
        vaccine candidates, including a 3-step method for purifying 
        soluble NA vaccine antigens produced using insect cells.
    The last update to the HHS Pandemic Influenza Plan was in 2017 
(https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pan-flu-report-
2017v2.pdf). Plans are developed to provide general guidance for 
response to emerging incidents. Plans are the base guidance and assist 
in organization and general understanding of roles and responsibilities 
between Federal, state, territorial, tribal, and private-sector 
partners. However, every response has specific considerations, and some 
deviations from planning documents occur if and as requirements shift. 
Plans are reviewed periodically to incorporate lessons learned from 
responses. The general concepts included in this Plan are effective to 
guide the initial response and provide a roadmap for all involved. As 
noted, deviations can and do occur from planning documents based on the 
specific requirements of the emerging incident. Plans are simply plans 
and best practices that could be utilized for the response.
    Question. In order to better understand the scope of appropriations 
and the fiscal year 2025 budget request, please provide a table of the 
fiscal year 2023 obligations, the spend plan for the fiscal year 2024 
appropriation, and the fiscal year 2025 budget request by program, 
project, or activity for the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.
    Please provide a separate list of current grants, cooperative 
agreements, contracts, and subcontracts for the 988 Suicide and Crisis 
Lifeline, including a description, funding level, and funding source 
for each.
    Answer. Per standard HHS agency protocol, SAMHSA's 988 & Behavioral 
Health Crisis Coordinating Office and Office of Financial Resources are 
actively working to finalize the FY24 988 Spend Plan, along with the 
current list of grants, cooperative agreements, contracts and 
subcontracts for the 988 Suicide Crisis Lifeline. Once cleared by the 
agency, all of the above components will be submitted through HHS and 
OMB process for clearance, then shared with the Hill.
    Each year, SAMHSA, through ASFR has shared the 988 Spend Plan with 
the hill and will continue to share the updated plan once it has been 
finalized. In the interim, if Senator Capito would also like a copy of 
the FY23 988 Spend Plan, SAMHSA, through ASFR, is happy to provide that 
information again.
    Question. The West Virginia PRC is one of eleven currently funded 
Centers whose applications were approved but not funded for the 2024-
2029 cycle. The discontinuation of the WVPRC gives me great concern 
that the unique issues facing WV and Appalachia will be greatly 
diminished going forward. What specific criteria did the CDC use to 
determine which PRCs would receive funding for the 2024-2029 cycle, and 
how did the WVPRC fall short of meeting these criteria?
    Answer. As with all CDC research Notice of Funding Opportunities 
(NOFO), the CDC Prevention Research Center (PRC) applications were 
reviewed by a Special Emphasis Panel (SEP) consisting of external, 
primarily non-Federal scientists for initial scientific and technical 
merit. Raw scores were presented to a Secondary Review Committee (SRC) 
comprised of CDC scientists to apply the funding criteria stated in the 
NOFO for final funding recommendations.
    Question. There is a heavy concentration in the Southeast of PRCs 
in the 2024-2029 cycle. What justification is there for concentrating 
so heavily in this region while limiting geographical diversity across 
the country--in particular Appalachia?
    Answer. The 20 funded PRCs were ranked based on the review criteria 
described in the NOFO. Geographic distribution was one of several 
factors considered for funding recommendations. As stated in the NOFO, 
those factors included the scientific and technical merit of the 
proposed project, as determined by scientific peer review; the 
availability of funds; the relevance of the proposed project to program 
priorities; a selection to ensure that the PRC core research projects 
address a variety of chronic disease prevention priority categories 
indicated in the NOFO; and a selection to ensure equitable geographic 
distribution of PRCs across the United States.
    Question. A recent report by the USDA Economic Research Service 
entitled ``The Nature of the Rural-Urban Mortality Gap'' highlights a 
growing mortality gap between rural and urban areas, particularly 
affecting working Americans. Given this concerning report, I am 
dismayed by the CDC's decision to reduce the number of rural-focused 
PRCs. How is the Administration going to invest in rural health 
research to better understand and address this glaring disparity in 
mortality rates?
    Answer. While the number of awards in the most recent cycle (FY 
2024-2029) has been reduced overall, there will still be a quarter of 
PRC-funded projects that will include rural populations on a variety of 
health priority areas. Each PRC cycle brings new core research 
proposals with new opportunities.
    Additionally, the CDC Office of Rural Health (ORH), with its 
mission to coordinate rural public health activity across the agency, 
works with CDC researchers to identify and address gaps in rural-
focused research. The agency continues to conduct such research across 
an array of topics outside the PRC network. Moreover, ORH collaborates 
with HRSA's Federal Office of Rural Health Policy (FORHP) to conduct 
additional research into rural health disparities, which can provide 
more insight into rural-urban differences in health outcomes.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Lindsey Graham
    Question. During President Biden's State of the Union Address, he 
stated;
    ``Buy America'' has been the law of the land since the 1930s. Past 
administrations including my predecessor, including some Democrats as 
well in the past, failed to buy American. Not anymore. On my watch, 
Federal projects that you fund, like helping build American roads, 
bridges and highways, will be made with American products and built by 
American workers--creating good-paying American jobs.''
    Mr. Secretary, there are a number of Federal agency procurement 
officers that continue to use waivers to get around purchasing American 
made PPE, like nitrile gloves.
    Would you commit to have your procurement officials work to 
maximize American manufactures and labor at HHS?
    Answer. During the initial response to the COVID-19 pandemic in 
2020, the U.S. medical supply chain failed due to reliance on foreign 
manufacturing and production of supplies and products. Using COVID-19 
supplemental appropriations, ASPR invested over $17 billion to expand 
the country's domestic manufacturing infrastructure, to include PPE, 
vaccines and related supplies, and active pharmaceutical ingredient 
production. Because of these investments, there is now domestic 
capacity to produce over 3.9 billion gloves, 690 million N95 
respirators, and 531 million surgical masks per year. It took decades 
for these industries to leave our shores, and it will take time and 
continued investment to bring them back. Annual funding is required: 
(1) to preserve capacity investments made thus far by ensuring 
appropriate management and oversight of the existing contracts; (2) to 
evaluate and assess where the future investments should be made; (3) to 
make those investments; and (4) to ensure the overall portfolio of 
investments is balanced, productive, and sustained. ASPR is 
appreciative of the $10 million included in the FY 2024 appropriations 
bill to continue this mission.
    ASPR has made a number of awards to on-shore pharmaceutical 
manufacturing. ASPR, through the Department of Defense (DoD), has 
awarded $45 million to On-Demand Pharmaceuticals for continuous and 
distributed drug production of cisatracurium, midazolam, 
dexmedetomidine, and propofol. ASPR, through DoD, has also awarded $30 
million to DEKA Research and Development Corporation for the 
distributed production of 0.9N saline and other supportive care fluids. 
ASPR has also awarded a contract to Phlow for $491.9 million in 2020 to 
support domestic manufacturing of active pharmaceutical ingredients 
(API). This work will require continued support from Congress.
    Question. Congress passed the Make PPE in America Act as part of 
the Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act in 2022. This law strengthens 
efforts to onshore production of personal protective equipment (PPE) in 
the United States by requiring Federal agencies to issue long-term 
contracts for American-made PPE.
    Is HHS fully complying with this law? If not, what specific 
contracts and agencies are out of compliance and what is your plan to 
bring them into compliance?
    How does your office intend to prioritize PPE manufactured in the 
U.S., but with foreign materials and components to extent such items 
are not available in the U.S.?
    If a required material for PPE is not available in the U.S. in 
sufficient quantities, should agencies then be free to procure foreign-
made products, or should they first procure U.S.- made products even if 
they need to use foreign-sourced material or other inputs?
    Which should have a higher priority--foreign made PPE with U.S.-
origin materials, or U.S.-made PPE with foreign materials?
    Answer. During the initial response to the COVID-19 pandemic in 
2020, the U.S. medical supply chain failed due to reliance on foreign 
manufacturing and production of supplies and products. Using COVID-19 
supplemental appropriations, ASPR invested over $17 billion to expand 
the country's domestic manufacturing infrastructure, especially for 
(PPE). Because of these investments, there is now domestic capacity to 
produce over 3.9 billion gloves, 690 million N95 respirators, and 531 
million surgical masks per year. It took decades for these industries 
to leave our shores, and it will take time and continued investment to 
bring them back. Annual funding is required: (1) to preserve capacity 
investments made thus far by ensuring appropriate management and 
oversight of the existing contracts; (2) to evaluate and assess where 
the future investments should be made; (3) to make those investments; 
and (4) to ensure the overall portfolio of investments is balanced, 
productive, and sustained. ASPR is appreciative of the $10 million 
included in the FY 2024 appropriation bill to continue this mission.
    Purchasing critical medical countermeasures (MCMs) and PPEs 
domestically reduces the risk of relying on international partners. We 
learned during the COVID-19 pandemic that the supply chain can fail; 
having an SNS that relies on foreign manufacturing and production of 
critical products is not the best choice for national security. When 
and where possible, the SNS looks to domestic sourcing for products to 
include in the stockpile. HHS is complying with the Make PPE in America 
Act. For commercially available products with multiple manufacturers, 
domestic material may be more expensive than internationally sourced 
product. However, the higher cost of domestic material is justified by 
their superior quality, which results from stringent manufacturing 
protocols, adherence to product policies and regulatory compliance. 
Moreover, relying on foreign sourcing is not the best preparedness 
posture, and we experienced this firsthand during the COVID-19 
response. SNS also holds products that are not commercially available 
and for which there is limited or no domestic manufacturing capacity.
    ASPR requested $95 million in the FY 2025 President's Budget to 
support sustained efforts in domestic manufacturing. This funding will 
support ongoing efforts to continue partnership with the private 
sector, as well as other U.S. government partners, to sustain and 
enhance domestic manufacturing. We cannot go back to pre-COVID times 
when we all experienced the failure of the domestic supply chain. We 
have learned too much and made significant investment. We cannot let 
this effort dry up. Threats to our domestic medical and pharmaceutical 
industrial base supply chain still exist and must be addressed to 
ensure the nation is prepared to respond to the next public health 
emergency.
    The President's Budget also proposes $20 billion in mandatory 
funding, available for 5 years, across HHS to strengthen the nation's 
biodefense capabilities, of which $10.5 billion would support ASPR 
activities. This funding will support development of prototype 
vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics that we can put on the shelf 
that we can pull down when/should that virus hit. Funds will enhance 
and strengthen investments in domestic manufacturing and will ensure we 
are as prepared as possible for the next threat that could emerge.
    U.S. domestically manufactured products should be the priority for 
agency purchases. If specific components or raw materials are not 
available from a domestic source, the Make PPE in America Act does 
provide for a waiver process to seek approval for the use of non-
domestic materials. The waiver request will require justification to 
explain why that component is not manufactured within the United States 
and/or why the domestic supply is so limited that global sources are 
required. The waiver will be targeted and time-limited, providing 
domestic manufacturers the opportunity to increase their production.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jerry Moran
    Question. Seven of the 10 drugs selected for price setting by HHS 
are small molecule drugs. Mr. Secretary, the FDA Commissioner recently 
expressed concerns that innovation will suffer in the area of small 
molecule drugs, which can be found in virtually every American's 
medicine cabinet, because these products will be subject to price 
controls just 9 years after they are approved. The example that Dr. 
Califf used was an approved drug that took 6 years to get through 
clinical trials, leaving just 3 years before the price controls would 
take effect.
    Do you think manufacturers will spend finite resources on such 
products, knowing that simply covering the costs of bringing it to 
market will be difficult to do?
    The structure of the Inflation Reduction Act drug price 
negotiations will change the landscape for the way drugs are developed, 
especially cancer drugs. New oncology drugs usually start in smaller 
populations, allowing innovators to bring medicines to the market 
quickly while they work on application for broader patient populations. 
IRA starts the clock on negotiation with that first approval, which 
means that discovery could have a target on its back if it works really 
well. IRA starts the clock on negotiation with that first approval, 
which means that discovery could have a target on its back if it works 
really well.
    How will you make sure that new oncology discoveries are encouraged 
and not discouraged by the law you supported?
    Answer. The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) requires Medicare to 
negotiate drug prices for certain high- expenditure, single-source 
drugs directly with drug manufacturers for the first time. This kind of 
negotiation, used successfully for decades by the U.S. Departments of 
Defense and Veterans Affairs will increase competition, expand access 
to innovative, life-saving treatments, and lower costs for enrollees 
and the Medicare program.
    CMS supports innovation and believes it is vitally important that 
beneficiaries have access to innovative new therapies. There's a 
serious issue now with millions of Americans being unable to afford the 
drugs that are currently on the market. If patients cannot afford the 
drugs they need, they cannot benefit from innovations. Negotiation will 
make drugs more affordable for people with Medicare. The United States 
pays three times more for prescription drugs than other developed 
nations. We also expect negotiation to encourage drug makers to create 
business models to stay competitive, fostering the development of new 
treatments and delivery methods.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith
    Question. As CMS and Congress contemplate how to address Medicare 
telehealth policy this year, we must ensure that provider safety is a 
top priority. As you know, since the beginning of the COVID-19 
pandemic, CMS has allowed providers who render telehealth services from 
their home or other location to list a practice address on their 
Medicare enrollment and billing forms rather than their home address. 
We applaud CMS for extending this flexibility though 2024 within last 
year's Physician Fee Schedule. This has allowed all providers, but 
specifically in the mental health and behavioral space, to feel 
comfortable providing telehealth services from their homes and has 
alleviated administrative and operational barriers for healthcare 
systems and providers across the country. We cannot go back to pre-
pandemic policy where providers are required to list their home 
address.
    Can you commit to implementing an address requirement that is not 
administratively or operationally burdensome for healthcare systems and 
ensures provider safety and privacy?
    Answer. CMS recognizes that telehealth plays a growing role in 
supporting beneficiary access to the care they need. CMS also 
acknowledges concerns about privacy and safety related to provider's 
home addresses being shared. In the Calendar Year (CY) 2024 Medicare 
Physician Fee Schedule (PFS) final rule, CMS finalized a policy to 
continue to permit the distant site practitioner to use their currently 
enrolled practice location instead of their home address when providing 
telehealth services from their home until the end of 2024. Additionally 
in the CY 2024 PFS final rule, we requested further information from 
interested parties to better understand the scope of considerations 
involved with including a practitioner's home address as an enrolled 
practice location when that address is the distant site location where 
they furnish Medicare telehealth services. The requested information 
will inform future enrollment and payment policy development as we 
continue to consider this issue for future rulemaking.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, as you may know the poultry and cattle 
industries are critical to Mississippi's economy, and in recent years 
the transmission of highly pathogenic avian influenza has decimated the 
production of eggs, which in turn drives the price up for the already 
financially stressed American consumer. Just last year we saw egg 
prices increase almost 40% at the peak of the bird flu spreading around 
my state. Now we see it spreading to cattle, which is no less alarming. 
Mr. Secretary I know cows and chickens are not in the business of HHS, 
but the fact that this deadly flu has already sickened one cattle 
worker in Texas is deeply troubling to me, and I want to make sure your 
agency is focused on ensuring we have the personal protective equipment 
to keep farm workers safe, and vaccines and therapeutics ready to go if 
HPAI begins spreading more easily between people in the future.
    Are any efforts ongoing to determine whether the virus may already 
be circulating in people asymptomatically or undiagnosed? To what 
extent is the CDC leveraging its advanced molecular detection program 
for this purpose?
    Answer. Multiple CDC surveillance systems are used year-round for 
seasonal flu and other illnesses that help the agency monitor the 
health of the U.S. public. These public health systems are routinely 
used to detect rare events, like single human infections with influenza 
viruses. In addition to traditional surveillance systems, we are also 
exploring how wastewater surveillance might be used to monitor for 
influenza A (H5N1). CDC has also developed a research study protocol to 
assess the prevalence of H5N1 among dairy workers. Analysis of this 
information will help CDC and state partners to determine whether there 
is asymptomatic or undiagnosed spread of H5N1.
    Additionally, CDC's SPHERES SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health 
Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance (SPHERES) consortium 
and Pathogen Genomics Centers of Excellence (PGCoE) programs allow us 
to leverage advanced molecular detection in response to H5N1.
    CDC's Advanced Molecular Detection (AMD) program has been working 
to bring sequencing into regular public health practice since 2014. In 
2020, the AMD program established the SPHERES consortium as a forum to 
facilitate knowledge sharing around SARS-CoV-2 sequencing. SPHERES 
brings together scientists from clinical and public health 
laboratories, academic institutions, and the private sector for 
discussions around interdisciplinary and innovative research and 
applied public health pathogen genomics, bioinformatics, and genomic 
epidemiology. SPHERES shares information about ongoing work across 
sectors that advances opportunities for collaboration as we respond to 
and continue to learn more about the outbreak.
    In addition, CDC's AMD program established five PGCoE in 2022 to 
foster innovation and improve technical capacity in pathogen genomics, 
molecular epidemiology, and bioinformatics to better prevent, control, 
and respond to microbial threats of public health importance. Each 
PGCoE site consists of a health department and one or more academic 
institutions, and two of these PGCoE sites are focusing on One Health 
approaches--at the interface of animals, humans, and the environment--
to help protect human health against the risk of zoonotic pathogens. 
For example, the Washington Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory used 
funding awarded to the Northwest PGCoE to build genomic sequencing 
capacity for surveillance of highly pathogenic avian influenza in 
animals. As a result, Washington unified sequencing protocols across 
veterinary and human health to monitor and detect spillover events, 
assess the risk of mammal-to-mammal transmission, and stop threats 
before they spread to humans.
    Question. What would have to happen to trigger the CDC to raise the 
level of its risk assessment? If the CDC does change its assessment, 
how will it communicate this to the general public? What will its 
recommendations for the public be?
    Answer. CDC continuously assesses the risk of HPAI to the public 
based on animal and human data. As new data are obtained, CDC analyzes 
the data for any indications that the virus may become more 
transmissible to humans or may impact the use of antiviral drugs, 
available candidate vaccine viruses, or diagnostics. CDC is using its 
Influenza Risk Assessment Tool (IRAT) to assess new information and 
data from the current HPAI outbreak and the potential pandemic risk 
posed by the H5N1 virus in cattle.
    CDC is currently sharing weekly updates on its website with the 
latest data, guidance, and information on H5N1. Additionally, there are 
U.S. Government Unified Coordinating Group press conferences as well as 
calls with public health national and state partners that are channels 
for communicating new information on H5N1.
    Question. The HHS Pandemic Influenza Plan was last updated in 2017. 
Based on the many challenges of the national COVID-19 response, is HHS 
confident that executing this plan will be effective?
    Answer. The last update to the HHS Pandemic Influenza Plan was in 
2017 (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pan-flu-report-
2017v2.pdf). Plans are developed to provide general guidance for 
response to emerging incidents. They form the base guidance and assist 
in organization and general understanding of roles and responsibilities 
between Federal, state, territorial, tribal, and private-sector 
partners. However, every response has specific considerations, and some 
deviations from planning documents occur if and as requirements shift. 
Plans are reviewed periodically to incorporate lessons learned from 
responses. The general concepts included in this Plan are effective to 
guide the initial response and provide a roadmap for all involved. As 
noted, deviations can and do occur from planning documents based on the 
specific requirements of the emerging incident. Plans are simply plans 
and best practices that could be utilized for the response.
    Question. What are the CDC and ASPR doing right now to get ahead of 
a potential avian flu pandemic declaration? What preparedness steps are 
they taking?
    Answer. As part of the current U.S. government coordinated response 
to the H5N1 outbreak in cattle, CDC is working closely with our Federal 
partners, including the Office of Pandemic Preparedness and Response 
Policy (OPPR), ASPR, USDA, and FDA. CDC has liaisons from USDA, ASPR, 
and FDA integrated into CDC's incident command structure, and CDC 
communicates on an ad-hoc basis to share technical information across 
relevant agencies. CDC's SARS-CoV-2 Sequencing for Public Health 
Emergency Response, Epidemiology and Surveillance (SPHERES) consortium 
and Pathogen Genomics Centers of Excellence (PGCoE) programs allow us 
to leverage advanced molecular detection in response to H5N1.
    CDC's Advanced Molecular Detection (AMD) program has been working 
to bring sequencing into regular public health practice since 2014. In 
2020, the AMD program established the SPHERES consortium as a forum to 
facilitate knowledge sharing around SARS-CoV-2 sequencing. SPHERES 
brings together scientists from clinical and public health 
laboratories, academic institutions, and the private sector for 
discussions around interdisciplinary and innovative research and 
applied public health pathogen genomics, bioinformatics, and genomic 
epidemiology. SPHERES is hosting presentations and discussions about 
the highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 outbreak to share 
information about ongoing work across sectors that advances 
opportunities for collaboration as we respond to and continue to learn 
more about the outbreak.
    In addition, CDC's AMD program established five PGCOE in 2022 to 
foster innovation and improve technical capacity in pathogen genomics, 
molecular epidemiology, and bioinformatics to better prevent, control, 
and respond to microbial threats of public health importance. Each 
PGCoE site consists of a health department and one or more academic 
institutions, and two of these PGCoE sites are focusing on One Health 
approaches--at the interface of animals, humans, and the environment--
to help protect human health against the risk of zoonotic pathogens. 
For example, the Washington Animal Disease Diagnostic Laboratory used 
funding awarded to the Northwest PGCoE to build genomic sequencing 
capacity for surveillance of highly pathogenic avian influenza in 
animals. As a result, Washington unified sequencing protocols across 
veterinary and human health to monitor and detect spillover events, 
assess the risk of mammal-to-mammal transmission, and stop threats 
before they spread to humans.
    While the risk to humans remains low, ASPR does have a number of 
preparedness programs that HHS could leverage if necessary. As always, 
states can request PPE from the SNS if needed, supplementing what is 
already commercially available or available in state-managed 
stockpiles. This PPE is available to protect farm workers and others 
who may come in contact with infected animals and includes face 
shields, face masks, goggles, and gowns. ASPR has reminded states of 
this resource should they need it.
    In addition, ASPR has tens of millions of antivirals in the SNS, 
many of which are also available on the consumer market. The antivirals 
are available to treat anyone who may test positive for the virus, and 
as you heard from CDC, we are not seeing resistance to these antivirals 
in the current H5N1 strain.
    And finally, we have two candidate vaccines that are well-matched 
to the circulating strain of H5N1 through ASPR's pre-pandemic influenza 
preparedness program. Hundreds of thousands of vaccine doses could be 
deployed quickly, potentially in a matter of weeks if needed, subject 
to appropriate FDA review and action. If additional funding is 
provided, over 100 million doses could be manufactured in the coming 
months. Our flu preparedness program is designed to be fast-moving and 
flexible, and we continue to look for ways to innovate. As such, we 
have requested proposals for an mRNA platform for influenza vaccines, 
which could be integrated into this program. We are currently in 
discussions with companies about these proposals and hope to announce 
more soon.
    Currently, ASPR's U.S. National Pre-Pandemic Influenza Vaccine 
Stockpile (NPIVS) program would be best positioned to support a rapid 
response. The NPIVS was designed to support the development and 
manufacturing of countermeasures to influenza strains as they evolve. 
NPIVS works closely with industry partners to make and test updated 
vaccines that match new strains of influenza viruses with pandemic 
potential as they emerge, while at the same time supporting 
manufacturing capacity to allow for large-scale vaccine production if 
needed. Vaccine candidates being developed and tested under this 
preparedness program, in close coordination with manufacturers, are 
expected to match the current strain.
    Question. Do we expect the pandemic influenza medical 
countermeasures (vaccines, antivirals, diagnostics) that we have 
available in the U.S. work against this strain of influenza?
    Answer. ASPR's U.S. National Pre-Pandemic Influenza Vaccine 
Stockpile (NPIVS) program would be best positioned to support a rapid 
response. The NPIVS was designed to support the development and 
manufacturing of countermeasures to influenza strains as they evolve. 
NPIVS works closely with industry partners to make and test updated 
vaccines that match new strains of influenza viruses with pandemic 
potential as they emerge, while at the same time supporting 
manufacturing capacity to allow for large-scale vaccine production if 
needed. Vaccine candidates being developed and tested under this 
preparedness program, in close coordination with manufacturers, are 
expected to match the current strain.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, the University of Mississippi Medical 
Center, the only academic medical center in Mississippi, is working to 
achieve NCI designation. As you likely know, the cancer outcomes in 
Mississippi are much worse than the national average, yet there is not 
an NCI-designated center in Arkansas, Louisiana, or Mississippi, which 
means Mississippians have to go quite far in some cases to get access 
to the cutting-edge trials and treatments that these centers can offer. 
Because of the serious healthcare challenges Mississippians face, the 
reality of our healthcare disparities, the rural nature of my state and 
our high levels of poverty, I believe there is no place that needs 
access to cutting-edge cancer care more than Mississippi.
    Please share your thoughts on how achieving this designation and 
bringing these trials and treatments to Mississippi will change lives 
in our state?
    Would you commit to helping guide UMMC as it works to establish the 
infrastructure and garner the needed resources to achieve this 
designation?
    Answer. The NCI Cancer Centers Program \22\ represents a 
substantial financial commitment to supporting breakthrough approaches 
to preventing, diagnosing, and treating all types of cancers. The 
program currently supports 72 NCI-Designated Cancer Centers, in 36 
states and the District of Columbia; there are 57 Comprehensive Cancer 
Centers, 8 Clinical Cancer Centers, and 7 Basic Laboratory Cancer 
Centers. The NCI-Designated Cancer Centers are recognized for their 
scientific leadership in laboratory and clinical research, in addition 
to serving their communities and the broader public by integrating 
training and education for biomedical researchers and healthcare 
professionals. These centers dedicate significant resources toward 
developing research programs, faculty, and facilities that will lead to 
better and innovative approaches to cancer prevention, diagnosis, and 
treatment. NCI supports the research infrastructure for designated 
cancer centers to advance scientific goals and foster cancer programs 
that draw together investigators from different disciplines.
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    The NCI Office of Cancer Centers \23\ (OCC) consults on a regular 
basis with cancer centers such as the University of Mississippi Medical 
Center (UMMC) planning a first-time application for NCI designation. 
The timeline for attainment of the designation varies greatly, 
depending on the status of the center at the time of initial contact 
with OCC. If the center needs to both build the research base and 
address other essential characteristics prior to application, the 
process may easily take a decade or more, depending on resources 
available, leadership, and other factors. If it already has significant 
cancer research funding, and needs only to refine its organizational 
capabilities, the process may take only a few years. The OCC is pleased 
to continue working with UMMC on this process and recognizes the 
opportunity that UMMC has to improve services for medically 
underserved, rural populations in their catchment area.
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    NCI remains committed to providing access to cancer clinical trials 
to communities throughout the United States, including those with rural 
and underserved populations. In addition to the NCI-Designated Cancer 
Centers, the NCI Community Oncology Research Program (NCORP) is a 
national network that brings cancer clinical trials and care delivery 
studies to people in their own communities. NCORP is comprised of 7 
Research Bases and 46 Community Sites, two of which serve Mississippi 
by providing access to NCI-approved cancer clinical trials and research 
studies.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, in a 2016 final rule, CMS required all 50 
states to use the National Average Drug Acquisition Cost (NADAC or nay-
dak) when calculating Medicaid prescription drug reimbursements. This 
has led to transparency in Medicaid programs and potentially saved 
Medicaid programs millions of dollars. If applied to Medicare Part D 
plans, it seems like the NADAC methodology would:
  --Increase transparency,
  --Save the Federal government and seniors money,
  --Decrease drug prices,
  --Prevent steering to certain pharmacies,
  --Promote fair reimbursements, and
  --Help avoid the closure of independent pharmacies.
    If the NADAC methodology seems to be a cost saver, why is CMS not 
requiring this methodology to be used for Medicare Part D plans?
    Answer. Section 1860D-11(i) of the Social Security Act generally 
prohibits CMS from interfering in negotiations between drug 
manufacturers, pharmacies, and prescription drug plan sponsors or from 
instituting a price structure for the reimbursement of covered Part D 
drugs. Consequently, CMS cannot require Part D sponsors to use the 
National Average Drug Acquisition Cost (NADAC) when establishing and 
making payments for Part D drugs.
    Nonetheless, we continue to encourage Part D plan sponsors to work 
with pharmacies to increase transparency, decrease drug prices, and 
address pharmacy cash flow concerns. On November 6, 2023, we published 
a memo to all Part D plan sponsors via CMS' Health Plan Management 
System (HPMS) titled ``Application of Pharmacy Price Concessions to the 
Negotiated Price at the Point of Sale Beginning January 1, 2024,'' 
which reiterates and emphasizes several key points related to pharmacy 
price concessions that CMS also stated in the Medicare Program; 
Contract Year 2023 Policy and Technical Changes to the Medicare 
Advantage and Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit Programs final rule. 
Within the memo, we strongly encouraged Part D plan sponsors to 
consider options such as payment plans or alternate payment 
arrangements in advance of the January 1, 2024, implementation date of 
the policy. CMS additionally emphasized that Part D plan sponsors must 
meet the prompt payment requirements at 42 C.F.R. Sec. 423.520 and 
pharmacy access standards at Sec. 423.120.
    CMS uses existing monitoring and enforcement operations to ensure 
that Part D plan sponsors comply with the access requirements 
prescribed in Sec. 423.120 and prompt payment requirements in 
Sec. 423.520. CMS conducts quarterly analyses of all Part D plan 
sponsors' networks for the contract year to identify Part D plan 
sponsors that are not meeting the pharmacy access standards as required 
by Sec. 423.120(a)(1). Part D plan sponsors that do not meet the 
standards will receive compliance actions, where the level of the 
compliance action escalates when there is repeated noncompliance in 
consecutive quarters. Additionally, CMS monitors the status of Part D 
sponsors' complaints from beneficiaries and providers, such as 
pharmacies. Prompt payment or pharmacy access violations that come to 
CMS' attention can result in a compliance action (or, if the impact on 
beneficiary access is severe enough, an enforcement action, such as 
civil monetary penalties and suspension of enrollment).
    More recently, we reiterated these points in our December 14, 2023, 
``CMS Letter to Plan Sponsors and Pharmacy Benefit Managers,'' 
available at https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/cms-letter-plans-
and-pharmacy-benefit-managers, where we identified several concerns 
about practices by some plans and PBMs that threaten the sustainability 
of pharmacies and impede access to care. We encouraged plans and PBMs 
to work with pharmacies to alleviate these issues and safeguard access 
to care.
    We are committed to ensuring beneficiaries have access to necessary 
health services. We value the critical role pharmacies play in 
healthcare delivery and recognize that we must address the needs of 
pharmacies to serve our beneficiaries effectively. We will continue to 
engage with stakeholders and consider policies for inclusion in future 
rulemaking that would lower prescription drug costs for beneficiaries, 
address challenges that pharmacies face, and improve the quality of 
pharmacy care.
    Question. Pivoting to another issue within the pharmacy space--
Medicare Part D Convenient Access Standards. These standards are based 
on arbitrary geographic locations. For instance, the standard says at 
least 70 percent of Medicare beneficiaries who live in rural areas 
served by a Part D sponsor, should live within 15 miles of a network 
pharmacy. Often beneficiaries, who live within that 15 miles, may only 
have two choices: a single retail pharmacy 15 miles away and maybe the 
plan-owned, PBM-affiliated mail order service. Simply put, there is no 
real choice for the beneficiary and there is no competition in the 
market.
    For the plans that meet the Part D Convenient Access Standards, 
what percentage of service areas have more than 1 pharmacy meeting the 
distance standard?
    What data is available that details how many beneficiaries in 
urban, suburban, and rural areas have access to more than one in-
network pharmacy within those distances?
    Would tightening the distance requirements and directing plans to 
partner with more than one brick-and-mortar pharmacy and/or partner 
with a non-PBM-affiliated mail order pharmacy improve access, increase 
competition, and help promote drug adherence for beneficiaries?
    Answer. CMS is committed to ensuring that Part D sponsors establish 
a pharmacy network sufficient to ensure access to covered Part D drugs 
for their enrollees. Part D sponsors must demonstrate that they 
provide: (1) convenient access to retail pharmacies for all enrollees; 
(2) adequate access to home infusion pharmacies for all enrollees; (3) 
convenient access to LTC pharmacies for enrollees residing in LTC 
facilities; and (4) convenient access to I/T/U pharmacies for American 
Indian/Alaska Native (AI/AN) enrollees.
    The convenient access standards are applied to different types of 
Part D sponsors. Regional MA-PD and PDP sponsors must meet or exceed 
the convenient access standards across urban, suburban, and rural 
areas, respectively, in each State in which they operate. To the extent 
that a regional MA-PD or PDP sponsor operates in a multi-region or 
national service area, it will be required to meet the convenient 
access standards in each State in that multi-region or national service 
area; the sponsor may not meet the convenient access standards by 
applying those standards across the entire multi-State geographic area 
it services. Local-MA-PD sponsors must meet or exceed the convenient 
access standards across urban, suburban, and rural areas, respectively, 
in each service area (including multicounty service areas) in which 
they operate. Cost plans must meet or exceed the convenient access 
standards across urban, suburban, and rural areas, respectively, in 
each geographic area in which they operate. Part D sponsors may count 
I/T/U pharmacies and pharmacies operated by FQHCs and RHCs toward the 
standards for convenient access to retail pharmacies detailed above. 
CMS reviews Part D sponsors' pharmacy network submissions to ensure 
that inclusion of I/T/U, FQHC, and RHC pharmacies in contracted 
pharmacy networks does not substitute for the inclusion in Part D plan 
networks of retail pharmacies.
    MA-PD plans or cost plans that provide access (other than via mail 
order) to qualified prescription drug coverage through retail 
pharmacies owned and operated by the MA organization that offers the 
plan or the cost plan are not required to meet the retail pharmacy 
access standards. MA-PD plans and cost plans may receive waivers from 
meeting these standards. However, in order for the pharmacy access 
standards to be waived, the MA-PD plan or cost plan in question must 
have a pharmacy network that, per CMS' determination, provides 
comparable pharmacy access to its enrollees as provided under 42 CFR 
422.112 or 42 CFR 417.416(e), as appropriate. This waiver is 
automatically granted when the MA-PD plan or cost plan provides Part D 
drugs predominantly through plan-owned and operated retail pharmacies 
(i.e., more than 50 percent of prescriptions are provided through owned 
and operated retail pharmacies). While this waiver of the convenient 
retail access standards is automatically granted to plans that meet 
this criteria, MA-PD and cost plans using this waiver must initially 
submit information to CMS about the number of prescriptions filled at 
plan-owned retail pharmacies and at contracted pharmacies, and the 
percentage of prescriptions provided through plan-owned retail 
pharmacies during the last complete year prior to the contract year 
when the waiver applies. Part D sponsors that have been granted this 
waiver are required to provide CMS with data on an annual basis on 
prescriptions filled at plan-owned and operated retail pharmacies.
    CMS conducts quarterly analyses of all Part D plan networks for the 
contract year to identify Part D sponsors that are not meeting the 
pharmacy access standards as required by Sec. 423.120(a)(1). CMS uses 
Medicare Plan Finder data to determine whether sponsors meet pharmacy 
access requirements on a quarterly basis. Sponsors that do not meet the 
standards receive compliance actions as described in Sec. 423.505(n). 
Compliance with pharmacy access standards is generally high among the 
Part D plans and no sponsor has failed to meet access standards for 
multiple consecutive quarters.
    Question. Unfortunately, nearly three decades ago, Members of 
Congress decided that telehealth had great potential. . . but only for 
certain patients in certain settings and in certain geographic 
locations. They did not know then what the 21st century would bring and 
how telehealth and technology would evolve to be something as 
convenient as pressing a button. We now have the opportunity to fix 
mistakes and empower patients and their providers to decide when and 
where telehealth works.
    Secretary Becerra, I understand healthcare providers are regulated 
at the state level and held accountable by their licensure boards; 
state laws also dictate things like what types of telehealth modalities 
can be used (audio vs video vs message). At the Federal level, HHS's 
OIG, CMS, the FTC, and even the DEA all have policies and mechanisms in 
place to help contain fraud/waste/abuse, ensure patient safety, and 
decide the appropriateness of individual covered services.
    Do we really need Federal Medicare statute-on top of all of these 
mechanisms and guardrails -to restrict access to care based on 
something as arbitrary as the patient's location?
    Answer. HHS and CMS continually consider how to best ensure access 
to medically necessary items and services and makes changes where 
appropriate and permissible under our statutory authority. We recognize 
the vital role that telehealth can play in the delivery of care, 
particularly among populations that are underserved. We implemented 
Section 4113 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023, which 
extended many telehealth flexibilities adopted during the public health 
emergency for COVID-19 through December 31, 2024. Additionally, through 
notice-and-comment rulemaking, the CMS solicited public comment and 
implemented regulatory changes that have permanently expanded certain 
telehealth policies that are within the agency's authority to modify. 
Some changes to Medicare telehealth policy would require legislative 
action to amend the statute, and we look forward to our continued work 
with Congress on this crucial issue.
    Question. As we stated in the hearing, in 2003, Congress 
established the Rural Community Hospital Demonstration Program to test 
an alternative payment model for rural hospitals that were facing 
financial constraints with Medicare's inpatient prospective payment 
system (IPPS). Congress has extended the program several times, most 
recently in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021.
    Mississippi ranks among the states with the highest rates of 
hospitals at risk of closing. This demonstration program could serve as 
a means to keeping their rural hospital doors open to serve their 
communities in need of high-quality healthcare. However, CMS has not 
solicited applications since 2017 despite, as I understand it, there 
being a handful of open spots in the program.
    Do you believe this program has been helpful to rural hospitals 
facing closure and we should extend the program when the time comes?
    The program allows for 30 hospitals to participate, how many spots 
are currently open in the program?
    Can you commit to working with me to solicit applications for the 
program and to find ways to help hospitals keep their doors open in 
rural areas?
    Answer. The Rural Community Hospital Demonstration (RCHD) was 
authorized under the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and 
Modernization Act (MMA) of 2003 ``to test the feasibility and 
advisability of the establishment of rural community hospitals to 
furnish covered inpatient hospital services to Medicare 
beneficiaries.'' The goal of the RCHD is to strengthen the financial 
condition of small, rural community hospitals and help them to meet the 
needs of Medicare beneficiaries who reside in their market areas by 
providing the potential for higher Medicare payments for covered 
inpatient hospital services.
    In an evaluation of the RCHD, CMS found that prior to joining the 
demonstration, RCHD hospitals tended to have lower Medicare inpatient 
margins than eligible non-participant hospitals. Once hospitals joined 
the RCHD, they received payments for inpatient services that were, in 
general, much higher than they would have received under either IPPS or 
SNF PPS. For the cohort of hospitals that joined in FY 2018, results 
show that, on average, participation in the RCHD resulted in large, 
positive, and statistically significant increases in their Medicare 
inpatient and combined margins, bringing hospitals closer to the break-
even point. For continuing RCHD hospitals, results show that, on 
average, the RCHD did not result in any additional changes in their 
Medicare inpatient and combined margins relative to the changes they 
already experienced. In 2024, 22 hospitals are participating in the 
demonstration. We are happy to work with you on the important issue of 
access to hospital care in rural areas.
    Question. On February 13, 2024, HHS OIG released an audit that 
demonstrated that even during the height of the pandemic when everyone 
was using telehealth and providers were only starting to figure out how 
to bill for the services, there was no evidence of fraud and no reason 
for policies that restrict access to telehealth.
    As Congress considers permanently extending telehealth 
flexibilities for Medicare, do you agree with your OIG that fraud 
should not be a main concern? Do CMS and OIG have the appropriate 
authorities and tools to catch potential fraud--regardless of modality 
(in-person, via telehealth, etc.)?
    Answer. HHS and CMS continually consider how to best ensure access 
to medically necessary items and services and makes changes where 
appropriate and permissible under our statutory authority. We recognize 
the vital role that telehealth can play in the delivery of care, 
particularly among populations that are underserved. We implemented 
Section 4113 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023, which 
extended many telehealth flexibilities adopted during the public health 
emergency for COVID-19 through December 31, 2024. Additionally, through 
notice-and-comment rulemaking, the CMS solicited public comment and 
implemented regulatory changes that have permanently expanded certain 
telehealth policies that are within the agency's authority to modify. 
Some changes to Medicare telehealth policy would require legislative 
action to amend the statute, and we look forward to our continued work 
with Congress on this crucial issue.
    CMS recognizes the importance of analyzing the impact of these 
changes, and, as such, immediately evaluated the waivers and 
flexibilities issued by the Agency to determine the potential for 
fraud, waste, and abuse in the Medicare program. This process included 
identifying program integrity risks and vulnerabilities associated with 
the waivers and flexibilities; prioritizing those with the largest 
potential for financial loss, beneficiary harm and/or likelihood of 
occurrence; and creating mitigations that addressed these program 
integrity risks and vulnerabilities, including those related to 
telehealth.
    One such mitigation strategy was the continued use of data 
analytics to identify potential program integrity risks. During and 
after the PHE, CMS has continued to analyze claims data to monitor, 
trend, and respond to existing telehealth fraud schemes and to detect 
and respond to potential new emerging fraud schemes. CMS uses a robust 
program integrity strategy to reduce and prevent Medicare improper 
payments, which includes the use of the Fraud Prevention System (FPS). 
The FPS is a predictive analytics technology that runs sophisticated 
algorithms against Medicare Fee-For Service (FFS) claims nationwide. 
When FPS models identify aberrant activity or patterns, the system 
automatically generates and prioritizes leads for further review and 
investigation by Unified Program Integrity Contractors (UPICs). Based 
on the results of all information collected, the UPICs coordinate with 
CMS and the Medicare Administrative Contractors in taking appropriate 
administrative action to recover improper payments and prevent future 
loss of funds, or the UPICs refer the case to law enforcement.
    Additionally, CMS has supported our Federal law enforcement 
partners during and after the PHE on various fraud schemes including 
those related to telehealth. CMS continues to meet regularly with law 
enforcement to discuss new cases, fraud referrals, active UPIC and law 
enforcement cases, and paths for various administrative actions.
    CMS has also taken action to prevent improper Medicare payments by 
educating healthcare providers and suppliers on proper billing. For 
example, CMS has undertaken a number of stakeholder calls including 
open door forums and Medicare Learning Network calls, as well as 
published numerous pieces of subregulatory guidance designed to educate 
practitioners on the additional telehealth flexibilities, including how 
to appropriately bill for these services.
    Question. A bipartisan coalition of State Attorneys General raised 
serious concerns over the past several years about the incumbent grant 
recipient for the human trafficking hotline, Polaris, declining to 
forward tips about trafficking to law enforcement. The AGs note that 
proper reporting of these tips plays a vital part in achieving our 
national goals of disrupting human trafficking operations and helping 
victims recover from the trauma and abuse they suffered. They say, for 
example:
    Attorney General Rob Bonta (D-CA): ``Utilizing Polaris effectively 
and to its full potential is crucial in gathering intelligence to 
combat trafficking, which should include forwarding third-party tips as 
originally intended. Law enforcement relies on third-party tips to 
determine if a vulnerable victim is at risk from a trafficker. Even the 
smallest tip from a concerned citizen can play a significant role in an 
investigation, leading to the dismantling of a trafficking ring, 
rescuing trafficking victims from a life of violence, and providing 
critical support for victims through shelters and service providers. 
This intelligence is instrumental in ensuring the safety of those 
affected by trafficking, allowing survivors to rebuild their lives with 
assistance from dedicated organizations.''
    Attorney General Josh Kaul (D-WI) says, ``Getting information to 
law enforcement can make it possible for officers to hold traffickers 
accountable. Ensuring that law enforcement receives third-party tips 
about potential human trafficking can make communities safer.''
    The ACF FY 2025 Congressional Justification report appears to 
indicate that the Administration agrees that such reporting is 
important, agrees that it is a key function of the National Human 
Trafficking Hotline, and has taken the concerns of these Attorneys 
General and other law enforcement seriously. It notes that the 
Administration has been providing more oversight, technical assistance, 
and monitoring of the Hotline's operations. However, according to the 
Attorneys General, there is a serious disconnect between what you are 
reporting--or what Polaris is reporting to you--and what these 
Attorneys General are experiencing because they report no actual change 
in reporting, no apparent change in protocols, and no known outreach.
    Can you please provide further information on the updates in your 
justification, specifically:
    Has Polaris provided any data on its ``concerted efforts to improve 
coordination and provide tips to law enforcement about all potential 
trafficking incidents.'' For instance, can you provide the number of 
third-party tips (that is, called in by an individual who is not the 
victim), the number of those tips forwarded to law enforcement, and the 
breakdown of each by the age of the possible victim?
    Answer. The National Human Trafficking Hotline (Hotline or NHTH) 
grant recipient is making concerted efforts to improve coordination and 
provide tips to law enforcement about potential trafficking incidents. 
The Hotline grant recipient has also conducted a review and update of 
its protocols for providing tips to law enforcement, convened meetings 
with law enforcement partners in its database, developed a Public 
Service Announcement about the Hotline services and coordination with 
law enforcement for use in law enforcement training on human 
trafficking, and made efforts to clarify the types of information 
necessary to make a report law enforcement.
    Hotline data are dynamic. All data reflects a single point in time 
and figures are subject to change as the Hotline engages in continuous 
data validation and cleansing efforts. For example, multiple 
individuals, including potential victims, may contact the Hotline one 
or multiple times regarding the same potential trafficking situation, 
which complicates computation of ``tips forwarded to law enforcement'' 
by contactor type. Additionally, the specific ages of potential victims 
are frequently not known or reported, particularly among third-party 
contactors.
    In calendar year (CY) 2023, the NHTH reported 2,442 likely 
situations of trafficking to law enforcement, 552 of which were 
situations in which the potential victim was the initial signaler to 
contact the NHTH.\24\ The initial signaler to contact the NHTH in the 
remaining 1,890 likely situations of trafficking reported to law 
enforcement was someone other than the potential victim.
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the hotline about the situation and includes people directed to call on 
behalf of the potential victim, service providers with consent to 
contact, and other third parties. Some situations of trafficking may 
have more than one signaler; in some of these cases we may also have 
heard from the potential victim after the initial signaler contacted 
the Trafficking Hotline.
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  --Of the 552 likely situations of trafficking reported to law 
        enforcement in which the potential victim was the initial 
        signaler, 172 situations involved minors. Of the 1,890 likely 
        situations of trafficking reported to law enforcement where the 
        initial signaler was not the potential victim, 1,439 situations 
        involved minors.
    Question. Please provide the updates made to ``its protocols for 
providing tips to law enforcement.'' Is the clarification about the 
``types of information necessary to make a report [to] law 
enforcement'' part of these updates? If not, please share that as well.
    Answer. The following updates were made to the Hotline law 
enforcement protocols: a) removals of specific officers from protocol 
contact lists in response to turnover or reassignment; b) updates of 
existing law enforcement information; c) any enhancement made; d) new 
protocols created; f) comprehensive restructuring of report recipients; 
g) specialist in human trafficking added; h) reorganized by victim 
type; i) new agency added; j) emergency contact added; and k) human 
trafficking coordinator added.
    The Hotline updates do not reflect new information about how to 
make a report to law enforcement. ACF has required that the Hotline 
grant recipient consult with law enforcement regarding the information 
needed and the appropriate format for transmitting tips from the 
Hotline. ACF plans to consult independently with law enforcement 
officials regarding the same. This information will inform requirements 
incorporated in the next Notice of Funding Opportunity (NOFO).
    Question. Has Polaris provided a list of the meetings it has 
convened with ``law enforcement partners'' or the ``16 community-based 
awareness events,'' which included law enforcement, or a list of the 
``more than 1,000 new contacts'' made to its law enforcement points of 
contact database? Can you share what jurisdictions these cover?
    Answer. ACF maintains regular contact with the Hotline grant 
recipient, which includes discussions about meetings, community 
awareness conferences, and events it initiates or participates in. Such 
convenings include Federal, state, and local law enforcement including 
those from the Departments of Justice, FBI Prosecution Units, Human 
Trafficking Task Force representatives, and child protection services 
professionals in CA, CT, DE, FL, IL, MI, MO, NC, TX, VA, and WI.
    Question. As you noted, Polaris receives the final year of funding 
for its current grant cycle in FY 2024. Can you please share the steps 
that ACF intends to take to ensure that whatever recipient is awarded 
the Hotline grant next will operate the Hotline in a more cooperative 
manner with law enforcement? Further, please share the timeline ACF 
will pursue for awarding funds for the next five-year project.
    Answer. ACF convenes bi-weekly meetings with the Hotline grant 
recipient to monitor hotline operations. During those meetings the 
grant recipients describe ongoing efforts with law enforcement and 
provide updates about any concerns raised by law enforcement 
representatives. In addition, ACF is incorporating additional language 
in the next NOFO outlining specific coordination requirements with law 
enforcement.
    ACF is in the process of drafting the NOFO to solicit proposals to 
operate the National Human Trafficking Hotline. The award of a new 
cooperative agreement will be made in 2025. ACF anticipates issuance of 
the NOFO in December 2024, with applications anticipated to be due in 
March 2025 and grants awarded anticipated in April 2025.
    Question. How many Part D plans have a mail-order pharmacy in-
network?
    How many of those are vertically integrated?
    How many of these plans offer more than 1 mail-order pharmacy as 
in-network options?
    Is there any data available detailing how long it takes for mail 
order pharmacies to get prescriptions to a Part D patient?
    Can you locate the ``statement of work of solicitation (#MDA906--
03--R--0002) of the Department of Defense under the TRICARE Retail 
Pharmacy (TRRx) as of March 13, 2003'' that is the codified benchmark 
for Medicare convenient access standards?
    What is the medication adherence rate of Medicare Part D 
beneficiaries? Is there any data pointing to how many medications are 
never picked up? (first fill or refill?)
    Are there any metrics--other than geographic distance--that could 
measure adherence and true access to medications? Anything used by 
URAC? How about proportion days covered?
    Answer. HHS is committed to ensuring Medicare Advantage (MA) and 
Medicare Part D prescription drug plans best meet the needs of people 
with Medicare, and this administration has taken action to ensure MA 
and Part D prescription drug plans remain strong, stable, and 
affordable. Each Part D plan must give at least a standard level of 
coverage set by Medicare. Part D plans can vary on which pharmacies 
they use, prescription drugs they cover, and how much they charge.
    Part D sponsors must secure the participation in their pharmacy 
networks of a sufficient number of retail pharmacies that dispense 
drugs directly to patients (other than by mail order) to ensure 
convenient access to covered Part D drugs by Part D plan enrollees. The 
inclusion of mail-order pharmacies in Part D plan networks is optional. 
Network mail-order pharmacies do not count toward meeting the retail 
pharmacy access requirements. Additionally, Part D sponsors that 
include mail-order pharmacies in their networks must permit enrollees 
to receive benefits, which may include an extended supply of covered 
Part D drugs (for example, a 90-day supply), through a network retail 
pharmacy rather than a network mail-order pharmacy, if they so choose.
    CMS publishes the MA and Part D Star Ratings each year to measure 
the quality of health and drug services received by consumers enrolled 
in MA and Part D plans. The Star Ratings system includes data on 
medication adherence and are publicly available online.\25\
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Information files \26\ contain formulary and pharmacy network data for 
Medicare Prescription Drug Plans and MA plans and are publicly 
available online.
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    With respect to vertical integration, we know that the increasing 
level of vertical integration that is occurring among plans, PBMs, and 
their own pharmacies has the potential to result in anticompetitive 
behavior and place independent pharmacies at a disadvantage. That is 
why, in a December 14, 2023 letter to PBMs and plans, CMS urged plans 
and PBMs to engage in sustainable and fair practices with all 
pharmacies--not just pharmacies owned by PBMs. CMS also solicited 
comment in a request for information issued on August 1, 2022 on all 
aspects of data related to the MA program, including the impact of 
mergers and acquisitions, high levels of enrollment concentration, and 
the effects of vertical integration.\27\ CMS is closely monitoring plan 
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    Question. MA-PD plans are automatically waived from the convenient 
access standard requirements if they own their own retail pharmacy and 
demonstrate that 50% of prescriptions are filled there.
    Is there any data on medication adherence in these plans?
    Does disregard of the convenient access standard impact 
beneficiaries' access to medications?
    Is there any data capturing the geographic distance of these 
pharmacies to beneficiaries and if the plans --if not waived--would be 
able to meet the convenient access standards?
    Answer. CMS is committed to ensuring that Part D sponsors establish 
a pharmacy network sufficient to ensure access to covered Part D drugs 
for their enrollees. Part D sponsors must demonstrate that they 
provide: (1) convenient access to retail pharmacies for all enrollees; 
(2) adequate access to home infusion pharmacies for all enrollees; (3) 
convenient access to LTC pharmacies for enrollees residing in LTC 
facilities; and (4) convenient access to I/T/U pharmacies for American 
Indian/Alaska Native (AI/AN) enrollees.
    The convenient access standards are applied to different types of 
Part D sponsors. Regional MA-PD and PDP sponsors must meet or exceed 
the convenient access standards across urban, suburban, and rural 
areas, respectively, in each State in which they operate. To the extent 
that a regional MA-PD or PDP sponsor operates in a multi-region or 
national service area, it will be required to meet the convenient 
access standards in each State in that multi-region or national service 
area; the sponsor may not meet the convenient access standards by 
applying those standards across the entire multi-State geographic area 
it services. Local-MA-PD sponsors must meet or exceed the convenient 
access standards across urban, suburban, and rural areas, respectively, 
in each service area (including multicounty service areas) in which 
they operate.
    Cost plans must meet or exceed the convenient access standards 
across urban, suburban, and rural areas, respectively, in each 
geographic area in which they operate. Part D sponsors may count I/T/U 
pharmacies and pharmacies operated by FQHCs and RHCs toward the 
standards for convenient access to retail pharmacies detailed above. 
CMS reviews Part D sponsors' pharmacy network submissions to ensure 
that inclusion of I/T/U, FQHC, and RHC pharmacies in contracted 
pharmacy networks does not substitute for the inclusion in Part D plan 
networks of retail pharmacies.
    MA-PD plans or cost plans that provide access (other than via mail 
order) to qualified prescription drug coverage through retail 
pharmacies owned and operated by the MA organization that offers the 
plan or the cost plan are not required to meet the retail pharmacy 
access standards. MA-PD plans and cost plans may receive waivers from 
meeting these standards. However, in order for the pharmacy access 
standards to be waived, the MA-PD plan or cost plan in question must 
have a pharmacy network that, per CMS' determination, provides 
comparable pharmacy access to its enrollees as provided under 42 CFR 
422.112 or 42 CFR 417.416(e), as appropriate. This waiver is 
automatically granted when the MA-PD plan or cost plan provides Part D 
drugs predominantly through plan-owned and operated retail pharmacies 
(i.e., more than 50 percent of prescriptions are provided through owned 
and operated retail pharmacies). While this waiver of the convenient 
retail access standards is automatically granted to plans that meet 
this criteria, MA-PD and cost plans using this waiver must initially 
submit information to CMS about the number of prescriptions filled at 
plan-owned retail pharmacies and at contracted pharmacies, and the 
percentage of prescriptions provided through plan-owned retail 
pharmacies during the last complete year prior to the contract year 
when the waiver applies. Part D sponsors that have been granted this 
waiver are required to provide CMS with data on an annual basis on 
prescriptions filled at plan-owned and operated retail pharmacies.
    CMS conducts quarterly analyses of all Part D plan networks for the 
contract year to identify Part D sponsors that are not meeting the 
pharmacy access standards as required by Sec. 423.120(a)(1). CMS uses 
Medicare Plan Finder data to determine whether sponsors meet pharmacy 
access requirements on a quarterly basis. Sponsors that do not meet the 
standards receive compliance actions as described in Sec. 423.505(n). 
Compliance with pharmacy access standards is generally high among the 
Part D plans and no sponsor has failed to meet access standards for 
multiple consecutive quarters.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator John Boozman
    Question. In 2024 the projected number of new cancer diagnoses in 
the U.S. will top 2 million for the first time. This number is 
equivalent to about 5,480 diagnoses each day. Making decisions after 
receiving a complex medical diagnosis such as cancer is challenging for 
anyone. Patient navigation services help cancer patients and survivors 
get the care they need and provide a valuable return on investment by 
identifying diagnoses at earlier stages, reducing unnecessary resource 
utilization and increasing adherence to treatment regimens. Yet to 
date, patient navigation services are still absent or limited in many 
cancer programs and hospital settings due to cost concerns and lack of 
clinical reimbursement for some payers.
    Would you agree that these services play an important role for 
cancer patients and survivors in getting the care they need, and we 
should work to identify pathways to expand access to patient navigation 
services?
    Answer. Patient navigation services play an important role for 
cancer patients and survivors getting the care they need. It can help 
improve outcomes for cancer survivors and help prevent cancer when used 
to get people screened. Screening is an important first step in 
improving cancer outcomes; for example, precancerous lesions and polyps 
found during cervical and colorectal cancer screening tests can be 
removed before they become cancerous. CDC is supporting the use of 
patient navigation services through its National Breast and Cervical 
Cancer Early Detection Program (NBCCEDP) and National Comprehensive 
Cancer Control Program (NCCCP).
    Nearly all of the NCCCP programs are implementing patient 
navigation (PN) and/or community health worker (CHW) activities related 
to cancer screening and survivorship. For example, CDC has offered 
supplemental funding to all NCCCP awardees since 2023 to support the 
widespread adoption of practice-and evidence-based, sustainable, 
survivorship activities to increase the duration and quality of life of 
cancer survivors. Additionally, more than 20 programs are implementing 
a model, developed through a previous demonstration project, to improve 
wellness of cancer survivors in rural communities. Under the NBCCEDP, 
awardees like the New Mexico Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection 
Program are using patient navigators to help women get cancer 
screening, follow-up care, and treatment. Between 2016 and 2022, New 
Mexico used patient navigation services to help more than 1,300 women 
in 15 federally qualified health centers get screened for breast and/or 
cervical cancer, and all of the women diagnosed with breast cancer 
started treatment.
    CDC has hosted training webinars for NCCCP and NBCCEDP programs and 
coalitions to increase awareness and utilization of these newly covered 
treatment services. Enabling reimbursement of patient navigation 
services related to cancer screening, such as those provided by the 
NBCCEDP and other providers, would be very beneficial to helping adults 
receive recommended screenings for breast, cervical, colorectal, and 
lung cancer, especially among people who have little or no access to 
care.
    We are committed to promoting higher quality cancer care and 
improving outcomes while reducing costs. As part of that effort, the 
Biden Administration has taken a number of efforts to improve the care 
of Medicare cancer patients, most notably with the President's cancer 
agenda and the Cancer Moonshot. The Department of Health and Human 
Services (HHS) recognizes that patient navigators provide vital support 
for cancer patients and survivors. Decades of evidence, including 
studies supported through the National Cancer Institute (NCI) and other 
HHS operating divisions, that demonstrated clinical benefits--included 
higher survival rates--for patients who received patient navigation 
services.\28\
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    As part of the CY 2024 Medicare Physician Fee Schedule final rule, 
CMS finalized coding and payment changes to better account for 
resources involved in furnishing patient-centered care involving a 
multidisciplinary team of clinical staff and other auxiliary personnel. 
These finalized services are aligned with the HHS Social Determinants 
of Health Action Plan and help implement the Biden-Harris Cancer 
Moonshot goal of every American with cancer having access to covered 
patient navigation services. Specifically, we finalized a policy to pay 
separately for Community Health Integration, Social Determinants of 
Health Risk Assessment, and Principal Illness Navigation services to 
account for resources when clinicians involve certain types of 
healthcare support staff such as community health workers, care 
navigators, and peer support specialists in furnishing medically 
necessary care. Community Health Integration and Principal Illness 
Navigation services involve a person-centered assessment to better 
understand the patient's life story, care coordination, contextualizing 
health education, building patient self-advocacy skills, health system 
navigation, facilitating behavioral change, providing social and 
emotional support, and facilitating access to community-based social 
services to address unmet social determinations of health (SDOH) needs.
    The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) established 
policies in the calendar year 2024 Medicare Physician Fee Schedule 
final rule to make separate payment to healthcare providers for patient 
navigation services related to cancer treatment for Medicare, including 
for patients diagnosed with cancer. Additionally, in March 2024, 
President Biden's Cancer Moonshot announced commitments from seven 
leading health insurance companies, as well as 40 comprehensive cancer 
centers and community oncology practices nationwide, who are expanding 
access to navigation services to help patients and their families 
navigate treatments for cancer. This also includes the Administrations 
work to collaborate with the American Medical Association (AMA), which 
issued updated guidance on the appropriate use of CPT codes, which are 
used by all insurers in reporting clinical navigation services.
    Question. In your FY2025 budget, there is a proposal that would 
penalize hospitals and health systems for not meeting certain 
cybersecurity requirements. However, a review of the top data breaches 
in 2023 shows that over 95% of the most significant health sector 
breaches were related to ``business associates'' and other non-hospital 
healthcare entities. Reducing reimbursements when Medicare already 
underpays providers seems counterproductive to securing the 
cybersecurity the healthcare system as a whole. The recent Change 
Healthcare attack taught us that the system is highly interconnected.
    Are you considering how to address third-party cybersecurity risk 
for other entities such as insurers, medical device manufacturers, 
clearinghouses, and others?
    Answer. In 2023, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services 
(HHS) released a concept paper that outlines the Department's 
cybersecurity strategy for the healthcare sector. The concept paper 
builds on the National Cybersecurity Strategy that President Biden 
released last year, focusing specifically on strengthening resilience 
for hospitals, patients, and communities threatened by cyber-attacks. 
The paper details four pillars for action, including publishing new 
voluntary healthcare-specific cybersecurity performance goals, working 
with Congress to develop supports and incentives for domestic hospitals 
to improve cybersecurity, and increasing accountability and 
coordination within the healthcare sector.
    Hospitals are specifically at risk for ransomware and other types 
of cyber-attacks because of their scale of operations and the critical 
nature of their services. However, hospitals have many competing 
priorities, and investments in cybersecurity do not necessarily result 
in visible differences to patients or yield financial benefits unless a 
cyber incident occurs, meaning some hospitals have limited incentive to 
prioritize cybersecurity efforts at pace with escalating threats.
    The FY 2025 President's Budget includes a $1.3 billion hospital 
cybersecurity support proposal to ensure care and advance resilience. 
The proposal would establish two incentive structures leveraging the 
Medicare Promoting Interoperability Program structure to encourage 
hospitals to upgrade their cybersecurity practices, steadily increasing 
expectations from ``essential'' to ``enhanced'' to elevate the level of 
hospital cybersecurity efforts stepwise over time and to evolve with 
the changing cybersecurity landscape.
    The first incentive structure would provide $800 million total 
investment payments from the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund to 
incentivize approximately 2,000 high-needs hospitals (including CAHs) 
to adopt essential foundational cybersecurity practices in FY 2027 and 
FY 2028. The second structure would invest another $500 million from 
the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund to incentivize all Medicare-
certified hospitals and CAHs to adopt enhanced cybersecurity practices 
in FY 2029 and FY 2030. The cybersecurity initiative would leverage the 
structure of, and provider familiarity with, the Medicare Promoting 
Interoperability Program to efficiently collect information, make 
incentive payments to certain hospitals, and increase standards to 
strengthen the hospital cybersecurity response.
    Yes. In the Fall 2023 Unified Agenda, the Department announced 
plans for OCR to propose modifications to the HIPAA Security Rule. 
These modifications will improve cybersecurity in the healthcare sector 
by strengthening requirements for HIPAA regulated entities to safeguard 
ePHI; and prevent, detect, contain, mitigate, and recover from 
cybersecurity threats.
    The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 
(HIPAA) Security Rule applies to covered entities (CEs), including 
health plans, healthcare clearinghouses, and most healthcare providers; 
and business associates, which are persons or entities that generally 
on behalf of a covered entity create, receive, maintain, or transmit 
protected health information (PHI) for a covered function; or provide 
certain services to or for such CE, where the provision of the services 
includes the disclosure of PHI.
    The HIPAA Security Rule establishes national standards to protect 
electronic PHI (ePHI) created, received, maintained, or transmitted by 
covered entities and their business associates. The Security Rule 
requires appropriate administrative, physical, and technical safeguards 
to ensure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of ePHI.
    The HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) initiates investigations of 
covered entities' and business associates' compliance with the HIPAA 
Privacy, Security, and Breach Notification Rules based upon a complaint 
or breach report filed with OCR. Additionally, OCR may open compliance 
review investigations based on an event or incident brought to OCR's 
attention, such as through the media, referrals from other agencies, or 
based upon patterns identified through multiple complaints alleging the 
same or similar violations against the same entity.
    The HHS OCIO Cybersecurity Program includes the Health Sector 
Cybersecurity Coordination Center (HC3) to aid in the protection of 
vital, controlled, healthcare-related information and to ensure that 
cybersecurity information sharing is coordinated across the health and 
public health sector. HC3 does this through the development and 
distribution of comprehensive health and public health sector-specific 
cybersecurity threat briefs, alerts, on specific threats to the sector, 
and white papers.
    Question. Providers are struggling in the aftermath of the 
ChangeHealth cybersecurity attack, as many are faced with a staggering 
financial backlog. I understand many providers had to access private 
loans to continue providing care to their communities, threatening the 
viability of our nation's provider network.
    Are there additional flexibilities needed from Congress to ensure 
HHS can make resources available to providers earlier for future 
incidents?
    How can you assure that companies that are breached hold providers 
and vendors harmless for the impact of the breach?
    How will you ensure that patients are informed about how their 
information was shared?
    Answer. OCR enforces the HIPAA Breach Notification Rule, which 
requires HIPAA covered entities and their business associates to notify 
individuals affected by a breach of unsecured PHI within 60 calendar 
days from the date of the discovery of a breach. This breach 
notification requires important information be provided to affected 
individuals including: (a) a brief description of what happened, 
including the date of the breach and the date of the discovery of the 
breach, if known; (b) a description of the types of unsecured PHI that 
were involved in the breach (such as whether full name, social security 
number, date of birth, home address, account number, diagnosis, 
disability code, or other types of information were involved); (c) any 
steps individuals should take to protect themselves from potential harm 
resulting from the breach; (d) a brief description of what the covered 
entity involved is doing to investigate the breach, to mitigate harm to 
individuals, and to protect against any further breaches; and (e) 
contact procedures for individuals to ask questions or learn additional 
information, which shall include a toll-free telephone number, an e-
mail address, web site, or postal address.
    However, the Health Information Technology for Economic and 
Clinical Health (HITECH) Act and the HIPAA Breach Notification Rule do 
not authorize OCR to compel a covered entity to perform the breach 
notification requirements. OCR's available remedies for a potential 
breach notification violation include securing a settlement agreement 
with a corrective action plan that would include performance of breach 
notification, or proposing a civil money penalty. OCR may choose to 
propose a civil money penalty for a violation of the HIPAA Rules when a 
regulated entity does not resolve a potential violation with a 
settlement agreement and corrective action plan. When OCR proposes a 
civil money penalty, the HIPAA covered entity might choose to pay a 
penalty instead of taking corrective action, or it might proceed to an 
administrative hearing to adjudicate the violations and related civil 
money penalties.
    Additionally, HIPAA does not authorize HHS OCR to seek injunctive 
relief, such as going to court to request an order requiring a breach 
notification. HHS OCR's FY 2025 Congressional Justification to Congress 
includes a proposed law entitled, Enhancing HIPAA Protections by 
Increasing Civil Monetary Penalty Caps and Authorizing Injunctive 
Relief as a means of improving compliance with the HIPAA Rules. 
Authorizing HHS OCR to seek injunctive relief would significantly 
improve HHS OCR's ability to prevent additional or future harm to 
individuals resulting from entities' noncompliance with the HIPAA 
Rules.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Katie Britt
    Question. Secretary Becerra, the United States' manufacturing 
capacity for essential medical devices is at serious risk due to 
organized efforts by Chinese manufacturers to enter the U.S. market in 
response to inflationary pressures faced by U.S.-based manufacturers, 
distributors, and providers. Further, many of the devices currently 
entering the U.S. from China are substandard, with the Food and Drug 
Administration issuing safety communications in November 2023 and March 
and April of 2024 warning consumers, healthcare providers, and 
healthcare facilities to avoid syringes manufactured in China. These 
products are being widely used throughout the U.S. healthcare system 
despite the serious risks to patients and the resulting erosion of the 
domestic manufacturing base. As we have seen with personal protective 
equipment, the domestic industry for medical products is declining, in 
certain cases at a rapid pace, with only one domestic manufacturer of 
needles and syringes remaining.
    What steps will CMS take to advance payment policies to support 
provider procurement of domestic sources of essential medical supplies, 
expanding on the precedent set with new payment adjustments to 
hospitals for their share of additional cost incurred for domestically 
made N95 respirators?
    Answer. The COVID-19 pandemic has illustrated how overseas 
production shutdowns, foreign export restrictions, or ocean shipping 
delays can jeopardize availability of raw materials and components 
needed to make critical public health supplies. In the CY 2023 Hospital 
Outpatient Prospective Payment System (OPPS) final rule, CMS finalized 
payment adjustments to help sustain a level of domestic supply 
resilience for surgical N95 respirators that's critical to protect the 
health and safety of personnel and patients in case of a future 
pandemic or increase in transmissions of COVID-19. This policy goal--
ensuring that quality personal protective equipment is available to 
healthcare personnel when needed by maintaining production levels of 
wholly domestically made personal protective equipment--is emphasized 
in the National Strategy for a Resilient Public Health Supply Chain, 
published in July 2021 as a deliverable of President Biden's Executive 
Order 14001 on ``A Sustainable Public Health Supply Chain.'' We 
received many comments urging CMS to expand this policy to cover other 
forms of personal protective equipment and critical medical supplies 
beyond surgical N95 respirators, and will consider these comments for 
future rulemaking, if appropriate.
    Question. On March 29th last year, the FDA Commissioner testified 
before the House Appropriations subcommittee on Agriculture and was 
asked about the rise in illegal vapor products imported from China, a 
problem which has only worsened dramatically since last year. Today, 
the U.S. nicotine vapor market is dominated by these illegal products, 
predominately from China and with zero regulation from the FDA. Last 
year, during that hearing, FDA to a summit with the Justice Department 
on this issue.
    Did the summit with FDA, and hopefully HHS as well, with DOJ to 
discuss increased enforcement options ever take place?
  --If yes, what was the date (or dates) of the summit meetings?
  --If yes, what HHS and FDA employees were in attendance?
  --If yes, what DOJ employees were in attendance?
  --If yes, what enforcement strategies or actions were agreed upon?
  --If yes, what enforcement strategies or actions, of those agreed 
        upon, have been acted on?
  --If yes, what impact have those actions had on the total illicit 
        market supply chain?
  --If yes, what products no longer exist on the U.S. market because of 
        those actions?
  --If yes, what reduction or percentage of the illicit market has 
        occurred? Is the illicit market larger today than it was a year 
        ago?
    Answer. In response to the recommendations set forth in the Reagan-
Udall Foundation evaluation of the FDA's Center for Tobacco Products 
(CTP), the Center announced plans to convene a summit related to 
tobacco product enforcement. Senior officials from the U.S. Department 
of Health and Human Services (HHS) FDA, and the Department of Justice 
(DOJ) met in July 2023 to continue ongoing discussions and close 
collaboration on issues related to enforcement.
    Looking forward, FDA continues to engage in a comprehensive effort 
to take action across the supply chain to address unauthorized e-
cigarettes, particularly those that are popular among youth, in the 
United States. CTP monitors for unauthorized tobacco products and takes 
enforcement action, as appropriate and based on available evidence, 
across the supply chain-- including manufacturers, importers, 
distributors, and retailers. This work has included many ``first of 
their kind'' actions over the past 2 years in particular, including the 
first injunctions against e-cigarette manufacturers, the first civil 
money penalties (CMPs) against manufacturers for manufacturing and 
selling unauthorized e-cigarettes, and the first seizure of e-cigarette 
products. In particular, FDA has issued approximately 670 warning 
letters to firms and issued 57 CMP complaints for manufacturing, 
selling, and/or distributing new tobacco products without marketing 
authorization from FDA. FDA has also issued more than 550 warning 
letters and 130 CMP complaints to retailers for selling unauthorized 
tobacco products. Further, FDA has established 2 import alerts to 
detain without physical examination new tobacco products that do not 
have marketing authorization at the time of import, and FDA has 
participated in a joint operation with U.S. Customs and Border 
Protection (CBP) that resulted in the administrative seizure of more 
than $18 million worth of illegal e-cigarettes.
    FDA continues to work with DOJ and our other Federal enforcement 
partners. For example, DOJ, on behalf of FDA, has filed seven 
complaints for permanent injunction in Federal district courts against 
e-cigarette manufacturers for continued violations relating to the 
manufacture, sale, and distribution of unauthorized new tobacco 
products. In April 2024, FDA and DOJ seized tobacco products for the 
first time in coordination with the U.S. Marshals Service. In total, 
the joint effort resulted in the seizure of more than 45,000 
unauthorized e-cigarettes.
    Question. Regarding the Maternal and Child Health Services Block 
Grants, while I realize that funding has been designated elsewhere 
towards addressing maternal health and mortality (Special Projects of 
Regional and National Significance (SPRANS)), the fact remains that 
funding for the grants to states has been cut in your budget request. 
In total, States would receive $10,276,000 less in grant funding to 
address maternal health and mortality if the President's FY25 budget 
request were enacted.
    Would you clarify how this budget maneuver will help states among 
worst maternal mortality rates in the country, like Alabama?
    Answer. HRSA's FY 2025 Budget includes an increase of $50.9 million 
over FY 2024 enacted for investments aimed at reducing maternal 
mortality and morbidity before, during, and after pregnancy. This 
includes investments in the Alliance for Innovation on Maternal Health 
(AIM) program, which will continue to improve maternal health outcomes 
by promoting safety and quality of care during pregnancy, delivery, and 
in the postpartum period, increases in the Screening and Treatment for 
Maternal Mental Health program, and investments in the Advanced Nursing 
Education and Nurse Education, Practice, Quality and Retention programs 
to continue efforts to grow and diversify the maternal and perinatal 
health nursing workforce through the Maternity Care Nursing Workforce 
Expansion Program and grow the maternal health nursing workforce in 
rural and underserved community settings, as well as increases in 
SPRANS.
    The FY 2025 President's Budget Request for the Title V Maternal and 
Child Health (MCH) Block Grant Program is $831.7 million--which is an 
increase of $18 million over FY 2024 Enacted. To clarify, there is no 
cut in State Grants funding and it remains flat with FY 2024 Enacted. 
Activities authorized as part of the program include:
  --State MCH Block Grant ($593.3 million; flat with FY 2023 Enacted 
        and FY 2024 Enacted): The FY 2025 President's Budget requests 
        $593.3 million to support formula awards to states. HRSA will 
        continue to provide formula awards to states and jurisdictions 
        to meet their most pressing public health challenges.
  --Community Integrated Service Systems (CISS) ($10.3 million; flat 
        with FY 2023 Enacted and FY 2024 Enacted): The FY 2025 
        President's Budget requests $10.3 million for CISS to help 
        states and communities build a comprehensive, integrated system 
        of care to improve access and outcomes for all children.
  --SPRANS ($228.1 million; +$16 million above FY 2023 Enacted; +$18 
        million above FY 2024 Enacted): The FY 2025 President's Budget 
        requests $228.1 million for SPRANS, an increase of $18 million 
        above FY 2024 Enacted, and $16 million above FY 2023 Enacted 
        amount (after accounting for the shift of the Maternal Mental 
        Health Hotline moving out of SPRANS funding to its own 
        authority in FY 2024). Importantly, this additional funding 
        request supports new and expanded investments in maternal 
        health, including support for the workforce and furthering 
        state maternal health efforts.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Marco Rubio
    Question. New data from the American Society of Health-System 
Pharmacists shows there is currently a record number of active drug 
shortages in the United States-- 323 drugs in the first 3 months of 
2024. Issues with quality have consistently contributed to a majority 
of drug shortages for the most basic and lifesaving drugs, including 
medicines that treat cancer, pain medications, and ADHD medications. 
Many of the drugs in shortage are due to quality concerns and are 
sourced from foreign nations, particularly China, who have extensive 
histories of shameful quality standards. However, FDA data clearly 
shows that the agency has used its resources to prioritize domestic 
facility inspections, instead of evaluating sites in countries with 
concerning quality records. Though agency officials justified the 
agency's output as based on a ``risk-based schedule,'' it is concerning 
that the metric does not result in a higher number of foreign 
inspections as proportionate to the high amount of quality issues 
reported.
    What steps has the agency taken to address the high number of drug 
shortages in the United States? How will the President's proposed 
budget add to these efforts?
    Answer. HHS has taken steps toward building a better system to 
respond to drug shortages by proactively monitoring and assessing the 
risks and vulnerabilities to the supply chain to help protect patients 
and mitigate the impacts of shortages. These activities include 
implementing immediate term solutions to improve HHS' ability to 
respond and working to strengthen supply chain resilience. Building on 
the Administration's supply chain efforts, on April 2, 2024, the U.S. 
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) released a white paper 
highlighting steps HHS has taken to prevent and mitigate drug shortages 
and proposing additional solutions for policymakers to consider. In 
addition to the release of the HHS White Paper, recent steps HHS has 
taken that are described therein include: using all available tools to 
the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to oversee the safety, 
effectiveness and quality of FDA-regulated products; identifying and 
securing critical life-saving treatments through tools available to the 
Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response (ASPR); and 
examining the tools available to CMS to curtail shortages and promote 
adoption of supply chain resilient practices in hospitals. Also, as 
announced in the November 2023 White House Fact Sheet, HHS has 
designated a new Supply Chain Resilience and Shortage Coordinator to 
strengthen the resilience of medical product supply chains and to 
address related medical product shortages.
    The FY 2025 President's Budget includes requests from HHS to 
address the high number of drug shortages in the US and strengthen 
medical product supply chains. The FY 2025 President's Budget proposed 
$12.3 million to advance FDA's capabilities to help prepare for, build 
resilience to, and respond to shortages that are supply-driven, 
demand--driven, or both through improved analytics to identify shortage 
threats and vulnerabilities, as well as regulatory approaches to assess 
disruptions and shortages. Through this agency-wide crosscutting 
initiative, FDA will hire additional investigators to fulfill 
inspectional needs associated with increased supply chain disruptions 
and consequent human food and medical product shortages seen in recent 
years. It will also continue to engage in efforts to promote 
manufacturing quality across the pharmaceutical industry and develop 
and implement modernized systems to allow for faster response time to 
shortages.
    Drug shortages remain a significant public health issue in the 
United States and a top priority for HHS. Through important changes in 
FDA authorities, and through ongoing FDA actions, progress has been 
made in preventing many drug shortages from occurring even while FDA 
works to quickly help resolve shortages when they happen. FDA helps 
prevent and resolve drug shortages in various ways such as: expediting 
reviews of new production lines or material sources to increase 
production; reviewing requests for extensions of product expiration 
dating; and exercising temporary regulatory flexibility and discretion 
as appropriate. FDA also works with other stakeholders, including 
healthcare groups and patient organizations to get information about 
specific shortages and identify opportunities to resolve them as 
quickly as possible.
    As a result of presidential, congressional, and FDA actions, drug 
manufacturers are notifying FDA earlier than in the past about certain 
manufacturing interruptions and discontinuances. These early 
notifications give FDA additional time to work with manufacturers and 
other stakeholders to identify ways to maintain treatment options and 
prevent or mitigate a shortage.
    Going forward, FDA is working to identify opportunities to reduce 
the risks of drug shortages. Examples of these include:
  --Gaining fuller insight into the supply chain. Interruptions or 
        problems in the drug supply chain can create or worsen drug 
        shortages. The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security 
        Act amended the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act to 
        require manufacturers to notify FDA of discontinuances or 
        interruptions in manufacturing of active pharmaceutical 
        ingredient (API) for certain drugs and also to require firms to 
        report annually the amount of drugs they manufacture. However, 
        reporting when there is an increase in demand that 
        manufacturers likely will be unable to meet without meaningful 
        shortfall or delay would better position FDA to help prevent 
        and mitigate shortages caused by an increase in demand (in 
        addition to those caused by a disruption in supply).
  --Increasing the resilience of the drug supply chain. Drug 
        manufacturing in more than one facility and more than one 
        geographic region can provide flexibility that reduces the risk 
        of drug shortages and helps with resolution of shortages when 
        they occur. For example, if a manufacturing facility needs to 
        temporarily close, or its operations are curtailed by factors 
        such as travel restrictions, quarantines, or natural disasters, 
        it is important to have alternative facilities available to 
        manufacture the drug or its API. FDA is ready to work with 
        manufacturers to address these needs. Furthermore, addition of 
        an express requirement to annual ``amount reporting'' under 
        section 510(j)(3) of the FD&C Act, such that drug manufacturers 
        provide data identifying the suppliers they relied on to 
        manufacture a listed drug and the extent of such reliance, 
        would help FDA identify vulnerabilities in the supply chain 
        that may be hidden.
    Overall, important progress has been made in preventing drug 
shortages from occurring, and FDA continues to work to ensure that 
patients in the United States have access to the medicines they need. 
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    President's Budget that would address barriers to drug shortage 
mitigation tactics. If enacted, these proposals would greatly enhance 
the FDA's ongoing work to prevent and mitigate drug shortages. The FY 
2025 President's Budget also proposes $12.3 million for Shortages and 
Supply Chain, including $4.8 million for the Human Drugs Program and 
$2.0 million for the Biologics Program to advance FDA's capabilities to 
help prepare for, build resilience to, and respond to shortages that 
are supply-, and demand-driven through improved analytics to identify 
shortage threats and vulnerabilities as well as regulatory approaches 
to address disruptions and shortages. CDER requests funding for key 
areas that maintain and advance efforts to combat drug shortages. These 
include Drug Shortage Data and Analytics to continue to support the 
surveillance system built during the pandemic. CBER will begin to make 
investments for a shortage surveillance solution that leverages work 
already done in other FDA Centers to identify, manage, and track 
potential and actual shortages.
    Using Defense Production Act authorities, HHS, through ASPR, has 
expanded domestic HHS expanded domestic manufacturing capacity of 
medical countermeasures to make access to lifesaving drugs and vaccines 
more reliable and quickly scalable to respond to future threats. The 
President's FY 2025 Budget includes $75 million for ASPR to build on 
existing progress to invest in manufacturing of more essential 
medicines, medical countermeasures, and critical inputs in the United 
States.
    Finally, the President's Budget also includes $10M to establish an 
HHS supply chain resilience and shortage office to coordinate 
Department-wide activities, strategy, and guidance for drugs, 
biologics, medical devices, and medical foods, including the 
development and implementation of an action plan to strengthen supply 
chains and prevent critical shortages. This effort was initiated in FY 
2024, by establishing a Supply Chain Coordination team to provide 
advice, information, and recommendations to the Secretary on HHS-wide 
supply chain and shortage-related activities. The new funding will 
allow HHS to institutionalize these efforts in a new office within HHS 
and establish a 5-year Action Plan to outline concrete goals, 
milestones, metrics for measuring progress, and associated timelines as 
it oversees implementation of the Action Plan. The Office of the 
Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation (ASPE) is the location 
for the new supply chain resilience and shortages office.
    Question. What is the agency doing to support domestic 
pharmaceutical production/producers?
    Answer. On June 8, 2021, as part of the Executive Order effort, the 
Biden-Harris Administration announced a set of actions designed to 
ensure the U.S. has access to the pharmaceuticals necessary for 
economic security, health security, and national defense. These actions 
are centered on four pillars: boosting local production and fostering 
international cooperation; promoting research and development that 
establishes innovative manufacturing processes and production 
technologies to strengthen supply chain resilience; creating robust 
quality management maturity to ensure consistent and reliable drug 
manufacturing and quality performance; and leveraging data to improve 
supply chain resilience.
    HHS led the development of the 100-Day Review of Pharmaceuticals 
and API, which was published in a report (PDF, 6 MB) by the White House 
on June 8, 2021. HHS and FDA will work with the private sector and 
Congress to implement the recommendations and develop a strategy to 
create a robust and resilient pharmaceutical and API supply chain, 
including facilitating adoption of novel methods for commercial 
production of pharmaceuticals and biologics.
    ASPR has supported the investment in domestic API production via a 
contract totaling $491M to date with Phlow Corporation (PHLOW) in 
Virginia. Originally awarded in 2021, PHLOW is on track to manufacture 
four of the top APIs identified on the FDA essential medicines list by 
September 2024. ASPR's FY25 budget request includes $95 million to 
expand and accelerate development and domestic production of medical 
countermeasures and improve visibility and management of medical supply 
chains to mitigate potential shortages of priority drugs and devices. 
In addition, ASPR awarded $35M under the BioMaP Consortium for 
manufacturing of Key Starting Materials (KSMs) and active 
pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) to support domestic production of 
sterile injectable medicines. More information is available via https:/
/www.biomap-consortium.org/drug-substances-at-commercial-scale.
    The COVID-19 pandemic has shown the importance of a nimble supply 
chain that is flexible enough to rapidly change manufacturing volumes 
and products in response to fluctuations in consumer demand during a 
crisis. As this review details, the pharmaceutical supply chain is 
complex, global, and vulnerable to disruptions and is highly influenced 
by certain market factors that have led to an increasing reliance on 
foreign countries to manufacture the medicines, API, and their key 
starting materials (KSMs) that serve the American public.
    There are significant economic issues that are out of our purview 
that have contributed to increased foreign manufacturing, including 
pricing pressures and labor and regulatory costs.
    Within CDER the most important thing we can do to help reduce our 
reliance on foreign manufacturing is to encourage and facilitate the 
adoption of advanced manufacturing. Ensuring that both brand and 
generic drug manufacturers will have access to information regarding 
advanced manufacturing technologies is vitally important as advanced 
manufacturing requires a skilled workforce and can help domestic 
companies operate with lower costs and fewer potential quality issues, 
improving the global competitiveness of U.S. manufacturing.
    CDER's programmatic support for advanced manufacturing includes an 
Emerging Technology Program, a dedicated effort known as the Framework 
for Regulatory Advanced Manufacturing Evaluation (FRAME) initiative to 
address the regulatory framework for advanced manufacturing 
technologies, the implementation of the advanced manufacturing 
technologies (AMT) designation program, and a robust extramural and 
intramural advanced manufacturing research program. CDER's Emerging 
Technology Program was developed to engage with companies that are 
pursuing innovative approaches to pharmaceutical product design and 
manufacturing early in the development process. The Emerging Technology 
Team (ETT) can help identify and discuss scientific and regulatory 
challenges prior to a regulatory submission, which can streamline the 
application submission process. The ETT has facilitated the approval of 
drugs manufactured using continuous manufacturing (a type of advanced 
manufacturing) for a range of product types, including solid oral 
dosage forms, and biotechnology products.
    With respect to the implementation of the AMT designation program, 
FDA published draft guidance on the program on December 13, 2023, in 
advance of the applicable statutory deadline. The Agency is currently 
considering comments to the draft guidance and incorporating revisions 
as necessary with the intent to finalize the guidance in late 2024.
    CBER encourages development and adoption of AM technologies to 
support fewer interruptions in production, fewer product failures, and 
greater assurance that biologic products will provide the expected 
clinical performance. The CBER Advanced Technologies Team offers pre-
submission regulatory support to meet with prospective innovators and 
developers of AM technologies to provide informal consultation during 
early-stage development. CBER also works closely with FDA's ORA on new 
inspection strategies. To address manufacturing challenges, CBER has 
made several extramural awards to support research projects that 
promote the development and adoption of innovative approaches. Results 
have been communicated to stakeholders in over 17 scientific 
publications.
    Question. Please provide an update on the agency's progress to 
obtain multi-entry visas or other tools for FDA's pharmaceutical 
investigators to travel and complete site visits and inspections more 
frequently in China.
    Answer. The Agency remains committed to improve its foreign 
inspection efficiencies and processes. The Agency has sent U.S.-based 
FDA investigators on details to FDA's foreign office in China in order 
to limit travel from the United States to sites located in that country 
and allow us to accomplish more inspections. We have also worked to 
obtain six-month two-entry visas for China for many of our 
pharmaceutical investigators, which has saved a significant amount of 
time and avoided potential delays encountered in having to apply for a 
visa for each inspection trip to China. Currently, visas for China are 
valid for 6 months and not to exceed 2 entries.
    Question. What actions has the agency taken to maintain a resilient 
pipeline of safe and effective drugs from foreign manufacturing sites?
    Answer. FDA's shortage response focuses on intake of information 
from various sources to determine if a shortage exists or is expected, 
for example, receiving and analyzing the potential impact of 
manufacturer notifications of a discontinuance or interruption in 
manufacturing of finished products or active pharmaceutical 
ingredients. FDA can then plan and execute strategies to help mitigate 
or prevent the impact of shortages. FDA utilizes available tools to 
help mitigate a drug shortage, including prioritizing review of 
manufacturing supplements or abbreviated new drug applications (ANDAs) 
for drugs in shortage or for which there is only one approved 
application; communicating with manufacturers to understand options for 
increasing supply; or exercising temporary regulatory discretion to 
increase supply in certain circumstances. FDA also assesses 
manufacturers' compliance with reporting requirements enacted and 
effected through various laws and regulations.
    In addition, FDA remains committed to using all available tools to 
oversee the safety, effectiveness, and quality of FDA-regulated 
products. As drug manufacturing has globalized over the years, FDA has 
modernized its programs to help ensure that companies--regardless of 
where they are located--continue to meet the FDA's standards for 
producing medicines for U.S. patients that are high quality, safe, and 
effective. FDA has resumed normal inspection operations and continues 
to prioritize inspections that were delayed due to the COVID-19 public 
health emergency, while maintaining its high standards and 
responsibility for the public health. In Fiscal Year (FY) 2022, FDA 
conducted 863 human drug inspections, of which close to 70% were 
domestic firms. In FY 2023, FDA conducted a total of 1,205 human drug 
good manufacturing practice (GMP) inspections (nearly a 30% increase 
over FY 2022), with close to 60% including foreign facilities.
    Question. Do you believe there should be additional factors added 
to the ``risk-based schedule'' to prevent future drug shortages from 
foreign produced drugs?
    Answer. Under current authorities (Sec. 510(h)(4) of the FD&C Act) 
FDA can add risk factors to the Site Selection Model (SSM), as it says:
  --(G) Any other criteria deemed necessary and appropriate by the 
        Secretary for purposes of allocating inspection resources.
    The governance process for the SSM includes an annual review and, 
as needed, FDA can add new risk factors and/or change the weighting or 
data sources for existing risk factors. This provides the agency with 
suitable flexibility to introduce additional data into the model, if 
and when, there is a need and we have reliable data sources.
    Question. How can Congress and the agency work together to ensure 
there are enough foreign inspections of drug manufacturing sites to 
ensure quality standards are being consistently met?
    Answer. Timely investigations and inspections are critical to 
achieving FDA's mission and often require agency staff to undertake 
extensive travel both within the US and overseas. As a part of 
reorganization efforts, committees to modernize agency travel practices 
and procedures for staff members who must travel to conduct inspections 
and investigations have been developed. These committees will help 
ensure compliance with applicable policies and regulations, including 
the Federal Travel Regulation, while at the same time identifying 
opportunities to reduce complexity and make the travel process as 
flexible, seamless, and simple as possible.
    We also need to ensure adequate, consistent and sustained funding 
to FDA inspection resources to secure sufficient investigatory staff to 
conduct inspections and investigations, domestic and foreign, at a 
travel frequency that is both sustainable by staff and allows for the 
appropriate volume of inspections to be accomplished.
    FDA is exploring various strategies to provide additional support 
and resources to our staff who conduct foreign inspections, 
acknowledging the heightened demands associated with international 
travel. Foreign inspections involve longer travel durations, traveling 
to different time zones, and potential cultural differences, 
contributing to a heavier workload for investigators. In addition, the 
FY2025 President's budget requests additional funding to expand the 
Agency's foreign office footprint and deployed personnel. This funding 
would strengthen FDA's knowledge of imported products and expand our 
ability to quickly complete in-person inspections of foreign facilities 
in specific countries.
    Question. Through the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control 
Act, Congress required the FDA to publish a rule requiring foreign 
manufacturers to register with the FDA if they wanted to sell tobacco 
products in the U.S. In a public attempt to comply, the FDA committed 
to issuing the foreign manufacturer registration rule in 2012. It has 
been more than a decade and, yet, the FDA has consistently punted the 
date for issuing the rule. By failing to act on this rule, illegal 
vapor products from China have flooded our ports and dominated the 
domestic market. Floridians are particularly impacted by this as our 
numerous ports of entry and international facilities make our state 
ripe for the importation. This has caused the state to become the 
largest market for disposable vaping products in the country. 
Manufacturers in China are free of registration requirements or any FDA 
regulatory oversight because your agency has given these bad actors a 
free pass to infiltrate the American markets.
    Is the FDA on track to publish the foreign manufacturer 
registration rule by the end of this year?
    If no, could you provide a realistic timeline for when the rule 
will be issued?
    What obstacles has caused the agency to delay the implementation of 
the rule?
    How does the FDA hope the rule will help the agency, as well as CBP 
and USPS, enforce the law against these illicit products?
    Answer. FDA continues to work on the Establishment Registration and 
Product Listing for Tobacco Products proposed rule, which appeared in 
the Fall 2023 Unified Agenda (see: Agency Rule List-Fall 2023 
(reginfo.gov)). The Unified Agenda lists the estimated date for the 
proposed rule as November 2024. The proposed regulation would prescribe 
the format, content, and procedures for establishment registration and 
tobacco product listings for both domestic and foreign manufacturers of 
tobacco products.
    Taking action against illegal tobacco products across the supply 
chain--including importation--is a top priority for FDA in coordination 
with Federal partners. FDA works with U.S. Customs and Border 
Protection (CBP) to help prevent illegal tobacco products, including e-
cigarettes, from entering the country. Additionally, CBP and FDA, as 
well as the U.S. Postal Service at the International Mail Facilities, 
work collaboratively to screen products to determine admissibility into 
the United States.
    FDA uses Import Alerts to help flag for its staff products that can 
be detained without physical examination, including many unauthorized 
e-cigarettes from China. However, import alerts only help when products 
are accurately declared at the time of import, and bad actors are not 
typically inclined to do that. Because CBP and other Federal partners 
are best suited to identify and interdict inadmissible products, 
including those products that do not adhere to Federal legal 
requirements, the Agency continues to coordinate with them. For 
example, CBP is able to identify and may seize inadmissible products 
under the appropriate legal authority--such as the 1.4 million units of 
unauthorized e-cigarettes products seized at LAX airport last year.
    FDA is committed to enhancing our communication with CBP, engaging 
in joint operations with our Federal partners, and prioritizing this 
work, while maintaining our comprehensive approach along the entire 
supply chain to address unauthorized products from being imported, 
manufactured, distributed, and sold domestically.
    Question. Last year, on May 1, 2023, HHS' Office of Population 
Affairs (OPA) released a statement by Deputy Assistant Secretary Rachel 
Levine on National Adolescent Health Month, which touted new efforts by 
the Biden Administration to ``expand sexual and reproductive health 
information and services'' for teens. Accompanying the press release, 
OPA launched an official webpage promoting resources and guides for 
family planning clinics. However, this webpage disturbingly included 
several resources authored by fringe activist organizations that 
blatantly undermine parental rights and place vulnerable children at 
risk. One document praised ``creative ways to deliver prescriptions and 
supplies,'' like offering ``curbside pickup'' at ``locations frequented 
by youth,'' and using mobile vans to deliver birth control and 
contraceptives directly to teens in their neighborhoods. Another 
``resource'' advised clinicians on subversive methods to keep parents 
in the dark when their children are seeking advice on contraception, or 
getting tested for a sexually transmitted disease, such as ensuring 
that children log onto virtual family appointments in a locked 
bathroom, outside, or in a parked car so parents cannot overhear their 
conversations. These are the tactics of drug dealers and sexual 
predators, not reputable medical professionals. Healthy parental 
involvement is one the most powerful protections for children's health. 
Placing HHS' stamp of approval on resources that promote fringe methods 
of blocking parents out of some of the most important decisions their 
children can make does not only recklessly endanger children's health, 
it is also against the law. For decades, Congress has included a 
provision in annual appropriations legislation specifically requiring 
clinics that receive Title X Family Planning Grants to ``encourage 
family participation'' in children's decisions about sex, 
relationships, and family formation.
    Does the Biden Administration believe it is safe for minors to 
purchase or receive over- the-counter or prescription drugs without 
their parents' awareness, consent or supervision?
    Does the Biden Administration endorse efforts to give children 
birth control, contraception, and advice about sex without the input, 
consent and supervision of their parents?
    Will you commit to providing my staff with a complete record of all 
correspondence between HHS employees and external organizations related 
to OPA's strategy for National Adolescent Health Month, including Title 
X clinics, Planned Parenthood, the Reproductive Health National 
Training Center, the Human Rights Campaign, and any other external 
organizations?
    How does the agency justify OPA's promoting of fringe methods to 
block parents from participating in vital decisions their children make 
about family formation, when Federal law specifically requires clinics 
to ``encourage family participation'' on these matters?
    Answer. The Biden-Harris Administration strongly believes that 
reproductive healthcare, including access to birth control, is an 
essential part of health and wellbeing. High-quality contraception 
improves health outcomes, advances economic stability, and promotes 
overall wellbeing. As Secretary Becerra stated in 2023, ``The 
professionals at the FDA deserve our gratitude for continuing to foster 
critical innovation for consumers while achieving the highest standards 
for safety and scientific review.''
    Adolescent health involves many aspects of health and well-being, 
including sexual and reproductive health, mental health, community 
support, and the role of caring adults. The HHS Office of Population 
Affairs (OPA) recently released Take Action for Adolescents, the first 
national action plan to advance adolescent health and wellbeing. Take 
Action for Adolescents includes eight goals and action steps that can 
help create coordinated systems, services, and supports that young 
people need to thrive:
    (1) eliminate disparities to advance health equity,
    (2) increase youth agency and youth engagement,
    (3) ensure access to safe and supportive environments,
    (4) increase coordination and collaboration within and across 
systems,
    (5) expand access to healthcare and human services,
    (6) strengthen training and support for caring adults,
    (7) improve health information and health literacy, and
    (8) support, translate, and disseminate research.
    Parents, legal representatives, and caregivers play a critical role 
in health and wellbeing of adolescents. Take Action for Adolescents 
recognizes this role by highlighting how parents and other caregivers 
can participate to advance each of the eight goals. This year, National 
Adolescent Health Month encourages families, caregivers, and all 
stakeholders to make use of resources and ideas to help young people 
thrive, including those outlined in Take Action for Adolescents.
    The Title X Family Planning program provides access to adolescent-
friendly care and encourages family participation in the decisions of 
adolescents. Title X projects are required to encourage family 
participation to the extent practical.
    Question. Polling consistently shows that parents prefer for their 
child to be cared for by a parent or relative. For example, a 2021 
survey from American Compass found that 67 percent of lower- working 
class families with children under 5 years old prefer to have their 
child cared for by a parent or relative, while only 14 percent prefer 
to send their child to a full-time paid childcare facility. In spite of 
this, your agency--through its $5 billion request for universal Pre-K--
seems more focused on a one-size-fits-all approach rather than 
providing flexible support for parents to make the best decision for 
their families.
    Why should policymakers only be interested in helping parents place 
their children in daycare, when this runs directly against the 
preferences of most families who would prefer to have a mom, dad, or 
grandparent care for the child at home?
    Since your agency states that the Child Care and Development Block 
Grants (CCDBG), a program that offers greater flexibility and parental 
choice, only serves one in six eligible children, shouldn't Congress 
focus our efforts and appropriations on CCDBG than on programs that 
funnel all children into center-based childcare facilities?
    Answer. The Biden-Harris Early Education and Care Plan builds on 
the current Federal investment in the Child Care and Development Block 
Grant to ensure working families have a range of affordable options 
across the mixed delivery system of care, including home-based child 
care. For the vast majority of families, child care is an economic 
necessity as two thirds of children who are not yet in school have all 
available parents in the workforce. This funding would expand choices 
for parents and provide the ability for families to select care options 
that are most responsive to their needs and preferences.
    The Budget also includes a mandatory funding proposal of $400 
billion to help scale services to more than 16 million children across 
the country whose parents earn up to $200,000 per year, and parents 
could choose from a range of care options available in their state. 
Child care prices drive parent choices, and limited care options 
prevent families from finding the care they would prefer for their 
children. The impact that the lack of affordable child care has on 
parents' ability to work has been well documented, limiting lifetime 
earnings for women and costing the economy billions of dollars a 
year.\30,31\ The Biden-Harris Plan ensures that families don't have to 
choose between quality care that meets their needs and the types of 
employment decisions that can lead to economic sustainability for their 
family.
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    \30\ Ready Nation Council for a Strong America, ``$122 Billion: The 
Growing Annual Cost of the Infant-Toddler Child Care Crisis'' Sandra 
Bishop, Ph.D., February 2023, 05d917e2-9618-4648-a0ee-1b35d17e2a4d.pdf 
(strongnation.s3.amazonaws.com).
    \31\ Urban Institute, ``Lifetime Employment-Related Costs to Women 
of Providing Family Care,'' Richard W. Johnson, Karen E. Smith, and 
Barbara A. Butrica, February 2023, Lifetime-caregiving-costs_508.pdf 
(dol.gov).
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    Quality early education and care is not only beneficial for 
parents, it also has a long-term impact on children's health, 
education, and well-being.\32\ This is why the Biden-Harris 
Administration proposed $200 billion in high-quality preschool for 4-
year-olds, extending to 3-year-olds over time. This includes investing 
in compensation so that the early childhood workforce earns fair wages. 
High quality preschool education has been proven to prepare children 
for success in school and in life. Building from the foundation of Head 
Start, the Biden-Harris Plan will grow preschool access beyond the 
communities furthest from opportunity to ensure all families have 
access to the types of high-quality preschool in a setting that meets 
their family's preferences from a range of high-quality options. This 
investment can ensure that parents are offered choices that can help 
transform their child's life.
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    \32\ Davis Schoch, A., Simons Gerson, C., Halle, T., & Bredeson, M. 
(2023). Children's learning and development benefits from high-quality 
early care and education: A summary of the evidence. OPRE Report #2023-
226. Office of Planning, Research, and Evaluation, Administration for 
Children and Families, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
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                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Baldwin. And with that, the subcommittee will stand 
in recess.
    [Whereupon, at 11:48 a.m., Tuesday, April 16, the 
subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene subject to the call of 
the Chair.]


 
  DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND 
          RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

                              ----------                              


                        TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                   Washington, D.C.
    The subcommittee met at 10:01 a.m., in room SD-138, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Tammy Baldwin (chair) presiding.
    Present: Senators Baldwin, Murphy, Manchin, Capito, Hyde-
Smith, Boozman, Britt, and Collins.

                        DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

                        Office of the Secretary

STATEMENT OF HON. MIGUEL CARDONA, SECRETARY

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR TAMMY BALDWIN

    Senator Baldwin. The Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, 
Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies will 
come to order.
    I am going to start by recognizing myself for an opening 
statement, followed by Ranking Member, Senator Capito, before 
turning to you, Secretary Cardona, for your testimony.
    Good morning. Today, we are having a hearing on the Biden 
administration's fiscal year 2025 budget request for the 
Department of Education, and I am happy to welcome Secretary 
Cardona to our subcommittee once again.
    Mr. Secretary, I am looking forward to working in a 
bipartisan manner again this year, with Senator Capito, to help 
develop an LHHS (Labor, Health and Human Services) bill that 
can pass the Senate, pass the House, and be signed into law by 
the President.
    We did our job last year, but House Republicans' insistence 
on partisan policy riders and draconian cuts to essential 
programs that set our children and young people up for success, 
led to repeated shutdowns--showdowns, and CRs (Continuing 
Resolutions), that culminated in passing final Appropriations 
Bills in March that we should have passed months before.
    That kind of chaos does nothing to help ensure our Federal 
resources are used most effectively to serve the people we 
represent. It causes Federal agencies to waste time and money 
instead of working to ensure every dollar we appropriate serves 
our constituents.
    We cannot play politics with our children's future. We need 
to do better. And Mr. Secretary, this budget is a good first 
step in that direction. It outlines important investments that 
are necessary to ensure that all students receive the education 
and support they need to fulfill their potential and move our 
Nation forward.
    Mr. Secretary, you are aware of the opportunities and 
challenges across the education spectrum. Child care and 
preschool are often unaffordable or simply unavailable. There 
are efforts by lawmakers to ban books from classroom shelves. 
We are seeing young kids getting bullied and discriminated 
against in schools and on social media just because of who they 
are.

                        POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION

    Post-secondary education costs too much for too many 
families, and leaves some students saddled with insurmountable 
debt. Career and technical education is not as widely available 
as it should be, and employers are often unable to find the 
workers with the skills they need for available jobs. These are 
some of the concerns I hear across Wisconsin.
    All said, we have some challenges; Mr. Secretary, the 
investments proposed in the President's budget would help 
tackle many of these issues head-on. There is so much we need 
to do to improve the quality and affordability of post-
secondary education. The President's budget request contains 
investments to continue this important work, including 
investments in the cornerstone of our financial aid system, the 
Pell Grant Program. I look forward to working with you to 
protect and sustain the Pell Grant Program so it can continue 
to provide this critical assistance to millions of students 
around this country.
    I am pleased the budget request supports students, parents, 
and activities to help students complete a post-secondary 
education to further their careers. A growing number of post-
secondary students are nontraditional students, and our 
colleges need to adapt to help ensure that they can succeed.
    The President's budget request for the Child Care Access 
Means Parents in Schools Program would help parents from low-
income backgrounds afford childcare so that they can attend 
post-secondary education. Additional proposed investments in 
the Post-Secondary Student Success Program would support 
evidence-based activities to improve post-secondary persistence 
and completion rates, particularly among nontraditional 
students.
    The budget also rightly invests in our Nation's HBCUs 
(Historically Black Colleges and Universities), minority-
serving institutions, and Tribal colleges. I have seen 
firsthand the important educational opportunities Tribal 
colleges provide to Native students in Wisconsin and know how 
important it is that we continue to invest in Tribal colleges, 
HBCUs, and MSIs (Minority Serving Institutions), including, 
vitally, their research infrastructure.

                FREE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL STUDENT AID

    This budget also proposes additional investments for 
administering Federal Student Financial Aid Programs. This 
year, a very challenging rollout of the new simplified FAFSA 
(Free Application for Federal Student Aid) has upended the 
financial aid application process around the country, leading 
to much uncertainty for students and their families. I am 
deeply concerned about low FAFSA completion rates, particularly 
given the promise of FAFSA simplification to make it easier for 
students to apply, and ultimately help more students pursue 
post-secondary education.
    I know you and your staff are working hard to fix these 
issues, but I cannot emphasize enough how important it is that 
we get this right. Accessing this aid can mean the difference 
between someone being able to go to college or not. I am 
committed to working with you to correct any ongoing issues and 
improve completion rates of the FAFSA this year. At the same 
time, we also need to be working to ensure that next year's 
FAFSA is available on time this fall, and rolled out smoothly 
to students and their families.

                     CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION

    Mr. Secretary, because not every student will choose a 4-
year pathway, I know you share my interest and passion in 
career and technical education and the important role that 
high-quality CTE (career and technical education) can play in 
preparing students for both college and for careers. The 
budget's proposed increase in CTE would help States, school 
districts, and colleges improve the quality of CTE programs and 
better ensure CTE programs educate students for jobs of the 
future.

                   ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION

    Mr. Secretary, I am also pleased to see that this budget 
continues support for important investments in key Federal, 
elementary, and secondary education programs, building on the 
increases we have been able to provide in recent years. The 
budget doubles down on our commitment to Title I-A programs to 
provide additional funding to schools serving students from 
low-income families. And it also builds on our investment in 
the IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) State 
grants to boost the Federal share of the additional cost of 
meeting the needs of students with disabilities.

                             MENTAL HEALTH

    I am pleased that your budget also proposes extra 
investments for school-based mental health programs that will 
increase access to support students in need. The budget also 
proposes increased funding for the Full Services Community 
Schools Program, which can also increase access to needed 
mental health programs.
    While Wisconsin marked 2023 as the Year of Mental Health, 
we know that much work needs to be done to address the 
significant mental health challenges facing too many of our 
youth. A few alarming statistics from Wisconsin's Office of 
Children's Mental Health 2023 Annual Report make that clear. 
The report indicates that 34 percent of high school students 
reported feeling sad or hopeless, 18 percent of teens reported 
seriously considering suicide, and 48 percent of LGBTQ 
(lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer/questioning) youth 
reported seriously considering suicide. Each indicator is going 
in the wrong direction. National reporting tells the same 
tragic story. We need to do more to ensure that all students 
receive the support they need to succeed.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    Finally, I would be remiss if I did not address the ongoing 
protests on college campuses across the United States, 
including in my home State of Wisconsin. Peacefully protesting 
is a fundamental right that all people in this country are 
entitled to. It is an important tool for people to have their 
voices heard and one I support.
    However, when these protests turn to threats, intimidation, 
violence, and in recent cases, anti-semitism, they must be 
called out and condemned in no uncertain terms, hate has no 
place in any educational institution in America; full stop.
    I am glad to see that the President's budget helps address 
this head-on and rightly requests an increase in funding for 
Education's Office for Civil Rights. Every student from early 
childhood education to our college campuses deserves a safe 
place to learn, free from hate, bullying, or discrimination. 
This is a fundamental idea that I am committed to through and 
through; a key tool in helping make that a reality for 
educational institutions receiving Federal assistance is the 
Office for Civil Rights.
    In recent months, some have called for increased efforts to 
root out anti-semitism in educational institutions, which I 
fully agree we must do. But they have then paradoxically called 
for cutting of funding for the very office that leads that 
work. To help eliminate all forms of discrimination we have to 
put our money where our mouth is. We need to provide OCR, the 
Office for Civil Rights, with the additional resources it needs 
to get the job done.
    In a moment, I will turn it over to Ranking Member Capito 
for her opening remarks. Following Senator Capito's opening 
statement, we will hear from you, Secretary Cardona. And after 
that, Senators will each have 5 minutes for rounds of 
questions.
    I will now turn it over to Ranking Member Senator Capito.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO

    Senator Capito. Thank you, Chair Baldwin. And thank you, 
Secretary Cardona, for coming and being with us today to 
discuss the Department's budget for 2025.
    As our Chair said, last summer, this committee was able to 
work together to pass 12 bipartisan appropriations bills out of 
the great hard work of Senator Collins here, and Senator Murray 
leading the charge for us. And while I regret that it was so 
very delayed, last month Congress did pass the final bipartisan 
funding bills for 2024. And we were able to successfully 
complete the 2024 process because everyone worked together to 
find some common ground.
    Fiscal year 2025 is likely to face similar, if not greater, 
challenges, but I am hopeful that we will, once again, be able 
to come together and produce a bipartisan 2025 bill, Labor 
bill, that prioritizes programs that help provide the 
opportunity for a high-quality education for all. While the 
budget proposes to continue spending money on programs and 
activities that we simply can't afford, I appreciate the 
somewhat tempered approach this year compared to the previous 
budgets.
    The Fiscal Responsibility Act continues to be the law of 
the land, and will govern what is possible for moving forward. 
Just like last year, we are going to have to make some tough 
choices. So I am concerned that this budget attempts to go 
around the FRA, the Fiscal Responsibility Act, by proposing 
$140 billion in new mandatory spending for programs that this 
country simply can't afford and that the Congress has 
consistently rejected. Expensive new Federal programs, like 
free college, are ill-advised and unlikely to be considered. 
Pandemic-era spending is over, and we need to get down to 
business.
    The challenges facing K through 12, and I don't need to, as 
a former educator--or a lifelong educator I should say--facing 
K through 12 education are downright alarming for the current 
generation of our students. We are facing a crisis of chronic 
absenteeism and failing test scores, or falling test scores in 
this country. The number of kids counted as ``chronically 
absent'', missing at least 10 percent of school days each year, 
is double what it was before the pandemic.
    In West Virginia, my home State, 28 percent of the children 
in school missed more than 18 days of school last school year. 
That is almost a month of school. This isn't okay, and when 
kids don't go to school, they don't learn, they don't thrive, 
and they don't grow, not just academically, but also socially.
    I know you share this concern, and I hope that your 
Department will continue working to give States and districts 
the support they need to help get kids back into the classroom. 
Federal education spending should support States in policies 
that afford the greatest opportunity for kids to learn and 
achieve academically. Formula grant funding like Title I, IDEA, 
Career and Technical Education grants, put education decisions 
as close to the local schools as we can, to the teachers, the 
parents, and also provide the crucial flexibility that local 
communities need to best meet the needs of their students.

                            CHARTER SCHOOLS

    So I am pleased that the budget priorities do that with 
these essential programs. However, your budget also proposes to 
slash other funding intending to help public school students 
succeed. For instance, the Charter School Program, Secretary 
Cardona, this is your fourth year in front of the committee, so 
it shouldn't come to you as a surprise to you that a cut to 
charter school spending does not go over well in a bipartisan 
environment.
    This $40 million cut is based on false claims of the 
declining demand for the program, when really the Department's 
own actions are to blame. The Department's imposition of 
burdensome new program rules and failure to adequately staff 
the program office are the real reasons for any challenge in 
this program. When enrollment in traditional public schools 
declined following the pandemic, charter school enrollment 
increased. I think that is a pretty clear indication of 
increased demand.

                FREE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL STUDENT AID

    The budget also includes a $600 million, or almost 30 
percent increase in funding for the Office of Federal Student 
Aid, yet, the Office of Federal Student Aid already receives 
more than $2 billion a year and it is not clear what the 
American students are getting and people are getting for their 
investment.
    I am particularly concerned by the disastrous rollout of 
the new FAFSA for the 2025 school year. You know, I don't 
normally come before folks who are doing the best they can do 
in the jobs they are in, but this has just got me totally 
undone, because it has got everybody in my State and across the 
Nation just appalled at how this could be handled so ineptly.
    Congress passed the FAFSA Simplification Act to simplify--
and the Chairwoman said this--and improve the process of 
applying for Federal student aid in December of 2020, more than 
3 years ago, yet this administration's implementation of the 
law has not made things better for students or administrators.
    It is not an understatement to say this has been an 
unmitigated disaster caused by an inexcusable failure of 
leadership. Implementation of this bipartisan Congressional 
priority should have been a top priority for the Biden 
administration. It took us a long time to pass that 
Simplification Act; we could get Lamar Alexander up here to 
tell us how long.
    The deadline to update the FAFSA should have come as no 
surprise. In fact, Congress even gave the administration an 
extra year to complete it. But instead of prioritizing this 
important work, the political leadership at the Department of 
Education chose to spend time, resources, and personnel to 
advance the administration's priorities around cancelling 
student debt. To me, that is indefensible.
    I have spoken with so many West Virginians this past 
several months, who are angry about the Department's misplaced 
priorities and feel discouraged about their future because of 
the bungled FAFSA implementation. FAFSA completions are down 36 
percent nationally compared to this time last year. In my home 
State of West Virginia, the number of high school students that 
have completed FAFSA is down almost 40 percent compared to this 
time last year. For nontraditional age students in West 
Virginia, students age 25 and up, FAFSA completion rates are 
down 35 percent. Maybe students put off post-education to work 
or to care for a family member, and now because of this mess, 
they have to delay their goal of furthering their education. 
Some students may never end up enrolling in post-secondary 
education because the hurdles to complete the FAFSA are just 
too high.
    And many of those who have managed to overcome the 
difficulties and submit their FAFSAs are still left in the dark 
about what financial aid they are eligible for in the fall. 
This is obviously a huge issue for students and their families, 
but it is a challenge for our colleges and universities. 
Because of the delays and challenges concerning the rollout of 
the new FAFSA, $482 million is hanging in the balance for 
students in West Virginia, severely jeopardizing college access 
and affordability for those students, and many of whom would be 
the first in their families to go to college.
    Tomorrow is May 1, traditionally known as College Decision 
Day. In a typical year, high school graduates across America 
will be finalizing their decisions as to which college or 
university to attend. But this year, your Department, just 
yesterday, sent colleges and the correct information they need 
to package those aid awards. So students are still unable to 
make plans, and informed financial decisions, what is likely to 
be one of the most expensive and consequential choices that 
they will make in their lives.
    I agree with your statement that there is nothing more 
important right now at the Department of Education, and I hope 
moving forward you will be singularly focused on addressing 
outstanding issues and ensuring that these problems are not 
repeated in the 2025-2026 FAFSA cycle. Our students do deserve 
better.

                              REGULATIONS

    On that note, I am concerned with all the regulations 
coming out of the Department right now are expected to be, 
including the new Plan B Student Loan Forgiveness Title IX, new 
cash management rules that would increase the cost of 
educational materials for our students. I urge you to abandon 
these efforts.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    Finally, I would ask you to take action to protect our 
Jewish students and restore order on college campuses across 
America. Discrimination based on national origin violates Title 
VI of the Civil Rights Act, and your Department is required to 
enforce the law, that no student should have to fear for their 
safety while attending school. Last week, 26 of my Republican 
colleagues and I sent you a letter on this topic, and I look 
forward to your response.
    Mr. Secretary, we have a lot of important issues to discuss 
today, so I want to thank you so much for being here with us.
    Senator Baldwin. I see we are joined by the Vice-Chair of 
the Full Committee. Senator Collins, would you like to make an 
opening statement?
    Senator Collins. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. You are recognized.

                 STATEMENT OF SENATOR SUSAN M. COLLINS

    Senator Collins. Thank you, Madam Chair. I am just going to 
make a few comments because Senator Capito has raised many of 
the issues, as has the Chair.I89Free Application for Federal 
Student Aid
    But I have to tell you, Secretary Cardona, how disappointed 
I am in your leadership. What happened with the FAFSA System is 
simply inexcusable and inexplicable. As our ranking member, 
Senator Capito, has said, the Department had 3 years to 
implement the revisions and then another year to simplify the 
revisions to the Federal Financial Aid application. And I have 
heard from countless families, students, financial aid 
counselors, and administrators who have expressed their extreme 
frustration with the system, and I believe the Department owes 
them an apology.
    This is inexcusable. This wasn't something that was dropped 
on the Department at the last moment. It goes back 4 years, so 
there was plenty of time to get this right. And the fact is 
that students in my State have been up in the air about, what 
do they do. They don't know what package of assistance they are 
going to receive. And as Senator Capito points out, May 1 is 
usually Decision Day, yet the colleges just got the information 
they needed, yesterday. This is just inexcusable.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    I am also extremely concerned about the treatment of some 
Jewish students and faculty on far too many of our college 
campuses. As has been pointed out under the Civil Rights Law, 
the Department has the authority to act on the complaints, and 
there are more than a hundred investigations that have been 
filed since October 7th of last year. Every day, we hear from 
Jewish students who tell me that they are frightened on campus.
    I just cannot believe the rise of anti-semitism on our 
college campuses. That is not to say that people don't have the 
right to peacefully protest; they do, but that is not what is 
happening in far too many areas.

                  RURAL EDUCATION ACHIEVEMENT PROGRAM

    I am very concerned about the budget for rural education. 
In Maine, the majority of our schools are small and rural, 
which is why back in 2002 I co-authored the Rural Education 
Achievement Program known as REAP. We got a $5 million increase 
in the program the last fiscal year, but the administration's 
budget level funds it back--actually, doesn't level fund it; 
that would be okay, instead, the Department is going back to 
fiscal year 2023 levels.
    And finally, although there are so many other issues that I 
would love to touch on in my opening statement, including the 
TRIO Program, which is a wonderful program, and I am pleased 
there is an increase there, IDEA, what we need to start getting 
those numbers up.

                          TITLE IX REGULATIONS

    But a concern that I have is the return to a single 
investigator model under your new Title IX regulations when 
that model has been ruled by multiple courts as unlawful. So I 
just don't understand why the Department would ignore those 
court rulings and go back to a model that has been so heavily 
criticized.
    Again, I think there are a lot of issues to cover today, 
and I very much appreciate the opportunity to touch on some of 
them. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Collins.
    Our witness today is Miguel Cardona, the Secretary of the 
Department of Education. Secretary Cardona, thank you for 
joining us. You will have 5 minutes for your opening remarks. 
And you may begin.

                SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. MIGUEL CARDONA

    Secretary Cardona. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Baldwin, 
Ranking Member Capito, and Vice-Chair Collins, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee. Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today on President Biden's fiscal year 
2025 budget request for the United States Department of 
Education.
    And thank you for your leadership and continued 
partnership. I am proud of how we have worked together in a 
bipartisan fashion during this administration to raise the bar 
for American education. Together, we have prioritized substance 
over sensationalism, defending public education instead of 
defunding it, and recognizing that investing in education is 
investing in a better future for all of us.
    It is in that spirit that I come here today to discuss a 
budget that is not only about our priorities at the Department 
of Education, but about what we are hearing directly from 
parents and others all over this country, in red and blue 
States alike, about where we have common ground when it comes 
to our hopes for our children. This budget is about making 
responsible choices, together, to invest in the foundation of 
American opportunity and raise the bar for our nation's future.
    It is about sustaining academic recovery from the impacts 
of the pandemic through $82.4 billion in calculated investments 
to accelerate learning and success at a crucial time for our 
students to regain lost ground, while also adhering to the 
Bipartisan Fiscal Responsibility Act. It is about investing in 
a stronger future for all Americans by boosting funding to 
close achievement gaps in low-income communities through Title 
I, support for students with disabilities through IDEA, support 
multilingual learners through Title III, and retain, recruit, 
and develop great teachers.
    It is about investing in safer schools and the mental 
health of our students by making more funding available for 
more school counselors and mental health professionals and more 
full-service community schools. It is about giving more young 
people access to the American Dream by building more pathways 
to rewarding careers and opening doors to higher education for 
all students, by improving college affordability, retention, 
and completion, including through free community college and 
increased student supports. It is about making these 
investments in our Nation's future while fully honoring the 
caps under the bipartisan agreement to reduce the deficit.
    Make no mistake. When we look beyond the headlines and all 
the noise, there is so much common ground in our country about 
what matters for our students. Whether it is getting all 
students to read by third grade, providing mental health 
supports in the midst of a youth mental health crisis, opening 
career and college pathways so more students have options for 
rewarding lives and careers, or making higher education more 
affordable and accessible for those who choose that path.
    And I know we are going to continue to work together to 
build on that common ground, prioritizing results over 
rhetoric. We can raise the bar for our nation together. And I 
look forward to working with you to do so. Thank you.
    [The statement follows:]
                  Prepared Statement of Miguel Cardona
    Chair Baldwin and Ranking Member Capito and distinguished Members 
of the Committee. I am pleased to join you today, and I am proud to 
testify on President Biden's fiscal year (FY) 2025 Budget Request for 
the Department of Education. As an educator and a father, I know that 
nothing unites America's families more than the hopes we share for our 
children, and that is why the Biden-Harris Administration continues to 
push for increased investments to ensure all students have equitable 
access to schools, colleges, and educators that welcome and support 
them, inspire their love of learning, and prepare them to succeed in 
whichever career they choose.
    The President's FY 2025 Budget continues the historic progress made 
since the President took office--with nearly 15 million jobs created 
and inflation down two-thirds--by lowering costs for working families; 
protecting and strengthening Social Security and Medicare; investing in 
America and the American people; and reducing the deficit by cracking 
down on fraud, cutting wasteful spending, and making the wealthy and 
corporations pay their fair share. This is a budget that 
unapologetically strives to raise the bar for education in America and 
position our nation to lead the world for years to come. Even in an era 
of relative restraint, where we currently find ourselves operating 
within the discretionary caps of the Fiscal Responsibility Act (FRA), 
we're continuing to push for additional, critical resources that will: 
(1) Achieve Academic Excellence; (2) Boldly Improve Learning 
Conditions; (3) Create Pathways for Global Engagement; and (4) Expand 
Access to Higher Education by Reducing Costs for Students and Investing 
in Student Supports.
          department of education topline request and baseline
    The discretionary request for Department of Education programs is 
$82.4 billion, an increase of $3.3 billion over the FY 2024 enacted 
level. However, since final appropriations were not completed by the 
time of the budget release, the baseline for our FY 2025 request levels 
was the FY 2023 enacted level, and the FY 2025 request submitted does 
not reflect final FY 2024 appropriations action. We look forward to 
working with Congress to provide technical assistance during upcoming 
FY 2025 appropriations action for appropriate review of the 
Administration's proposal, including how FY 2025 requests compare with 
final FY 2024 enacted levels.
                     achieving academic excellence
    Title I funding is absolutely essential to our efforts to ensure 
every student achieves academic excellence. To date, and in partnership 
with Congress, the Biden-Harris Administration has grown Title I 
funding for schools supporting students from low-income backgrounds by 
$1.9 billion--expanding the base of this crucial funding to close 
opportunity and achievement gaps in our nation's schools and sustain 
our academic recovery from the impacts of the pandemic. Our request, 
operating within the constraints of the FRA, calls for a $200 million 
increase in FY 2025 over FY 2023 and $180 million more than the FY 2024 
level, for a total request of $18.6 billion. The Request also includes 
critical updates to ensure States have the resources they need to 
effectively administer the Title I program and ensure every student 
receives an excellent education.
    The President and I remain committed to ensuring that children and 
youth with disabilities receive the services and support they need to 
thrive in school and graduate ready for college and career. The Budget 
Request reflects that commitment through a significant boost in support 
for children with disabilities. We are requesting $15.7 billion for 
special education programs, a more than $200 million increase above the 
FY 2023 enacted level and $190 million more than FY 2024 enacted. This 
includes $14.4 billion for IDEA Part B Grants to States, $200 million 
more than FY 2023 enacted ($180 million more than FY 2024 enacted), and 
$425 million for Preschool Grants, $5 million more than FY 2023 and FY 
2024 enacted. Our request also includes $545 million for the IDEA Part 
C Infants and Families program, $5 million more than FY 2023 and FY 
2024 enacted. However, despite these requested increases there remains 
a nearly $31 billion annual gap between current funding levels and what 
is widely considered to be full funding of IDEA, and that is why the 
Administration continues to support legislation that achieves full 
funding over the next 10 years such as the IDEA Full Funding Act.
    With the obligation deadline for the last of COVID-19 supplemental 
education funding in September 2024, we are proposing a new Academic 
Acceleration and Achievement Grants program, which would help bridge 
the gap between the crucial recovery work that American Rescue Plan 
dollars provided to sustained academic acceleration and achievement 
efforts in the long run. This mandatory proposal would provide $8 
billion over years to help Title I and Title I-eligible schools--
including those in an improvement status and especially hard hit by the 
COVID-19 pandemic--to improve opportunities and outcomes for 
underserved students through a variety of proven, evidence-based 
strategies, including: increasing student attendance and engagement; 
providing high-quality, high-dosage tutoring; and expanding summer, 
extended, or afterschool learning time.
    The Budget proposes a new $25 million demonstration program to 
incentivize school districts to expand high-quality public preschool in 
schools and community-based settings, including by leveraging existing 
Federal investments like Head Start and Title I. This new investment 
complements the mandatory funding proposal also included in the 
President's Budget (at the Department of Health and Human Services, in 
partnership with the Department of Education), which would provide 
assistance to every State to establish and expand high-quality free 
preschool, through a Federal-state partnership.
                  boldly improving learning conditions
    Every student should have access to outstanding, well-prepared, 
well-supported educators who reflect the rich diversity of our nation. 
Our budget makes significant investments in educator recruitment, 
preparation, retention, and professional learning, improving resources 
and support for America's teachers and school leaders to expand their 
impact within and beyond their classrooms. This includes $2.9 billion 
in educator preparation, development, and leadership--an increase of 
nearly $100 million over FY 2023 levels and $200 million over FY 2024 
levels--including $30 million in Hawkins and $95 million in Teacher 
Quality Partnerships to build a diverse and well-prepared teacher 
pipeline, and $125 million to address shortages of special education 
teachers and providers. The Budget also supports an expansion of $17 
million in the National Professional Development program to help shore 
up the pipeline of bilingual educators, as well as $5 million in 
graduate fellowships for faculty in high-need areas.
    Improving learning conditions also means acknowledging that 
communities with high rates of poverty need comprehensive services to 
support and sustain student well-being and improved academic outcomes. 
Schools are ideally situated to provide such supports, which is why I 
am requesting $200 million to expand Full-Service Community Schools, an 
increase of $50 million over FY 2023 and FY 2024 enacted levels, to 
meet increasing demand for the program. I am requesting a total of $216 
million for School Safety National Activities, which will provide $40 
million in new funding to meet the mental health needs of our students, 
school staff, and teachers and build on the Administration's historic 
progress in increasing the number of school counselors, school 
psychologists, social workers, and other health professionals serving 
our students within schools. Already, the Department has obligated $571 
million in mental health programs for K-12 schools, enabled through 
partnership with Congress on the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act--
helping accelerate our nation towards the President's ambitious goal of 
doubling the number of mental health professionals in our nation's 
schools. Our budget also includes a new $25 million investment in the 
Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE) to help 
colleges and universities develop campus-wide strategies and improve 
institutional and systemwide capacity to address student mental health 
needs and other non- academic barriers to student success, including 
hiring additional providers on their campuses.
                creating pathways for global engagement
    I strongly believe that being bilingual is a superpower. It is why 
we are requesting $940 million for English Language Acquisition grants, 
an increase of $50 million over FY 2023 and FY 2024 enacted. This 
increase would not only strengthen capacity for schools to meet the 
needs of English Learners and their teachers, it would also provide $75 
million to build multilingual teacher pipelines and provide 
professional development in multilingual education and $5 million for 
postsecondary education fellowships to include the quality of 
multilingual teacher preparation and preparation in other critical 
educator shortage areas.
    To further prepare our students for global success, our high 
schools should evolve to meet the career and college demands of today 
and tomorrow. Reimagining traditional educational pathways is a 
critical piece of the President's vision to increase successful 
outcomes for all students and help them compete internationally. 
Accordingly, our budget request includes $1.5 billion for Career and 
Technical Education (CTE) state grants, an increase of $40 million 
above FY 2023 enacted and $30 million above FY 2024 enacted, to invest 
in workforce development and build the capacity of existing CTE 
programs. We are also requesting $64.4 million for CTE National 
Programs (an increase of $32 million over FY 2023 enacted and $52 
million over FY 2024 enacted), which includes a $57 million investment 
in the Career Connected High Schools program to redesign our high 
schools to build career and college pathways and align with our 
postsecondary education system. This program will provide competitive 
grants to partnerships among school districts, institutions of higher 
education (including community colleges), and employers. Key activities 
would include dual enrollment, work-based learning, career-related 
credentials, career-navigation support, and educator development to 
support effective integration of academic and career-connected 
instruction across grades 11--14. Further, our request includes $12 
billion in mandatory funding over 10 years for the new Reducing the 
Costs of College Fund--and this proposal includes over $7 billion in 
the Classroom to Career program, which reduces costs for students by 
providing funds to States to expand student access to free, career-
connected dual enrollment programs.
        making postsecondary education inclusive and affordable
    Most well-paying jobs today require some education beyond high 
school. But as college costs continue to rise, too many students and 
families are finding it harder to afford that path. And despite all the 
progress we have made, we still face serious gaps in college completion 
and attainment based on race and income. Our budget request invests in 
postsecondary success for all students, improving college 
affordability, retention, and completion.
    To expand equitable and affordable access to an education beyond 
high school, the Budget proposes to increase the maximum Pell Grant by 
$100 for the 2025-2026 award year building on successful efforts to 
raise the discretionary maximum award by $900 since the beginning of 
the Biden-Harris Administration. The Budget also increases the 
mandatory Pell add-on by $650 for a total maximum award of $8,145 for 
students attending public and non- profit institutions. This increase 
keeps the Administration on its path to double the maximum Pell Grant 
at such institutions by 2029. The Administration continues to support 
expanding all Federal student aid to students who are Dreamers--and we 
are committed to working with Congress to advance this goal.
    The Budget also proposes to create partnerships between the Federal 
government and States to make 2 years of community college free for 
first-time students and workers wanting to reskill. The Budget proposes 
mandatory funding for 2 years of subsidized tuition up to $4,500 per 
year for students from families earning less than $125,000 enrolled in 
an eligible four-year Historically Black College or University (HBCU), 
Tribally Controlled College or University (TCCU), or Minority Serving 
Institution (MSI).
    In addition to the aforementioned Classroom to Career program, the 
Reducing the Costs of College Fund proposal includes $5 billion for 
awards to colleges and universities that: (1) provide an excellent 
education at an affordable price to expand the number of students 
served and to share best practices, and (2) scale evidence-based 
strategies that increase college completion rates, reduce cost burdens 
for students, and lower costs per graduate.
    The Budget also builds on President Biden's historic actions to 
reduce student debt and college costs by eliminating origination fees 
charged to borrowers on every new Federal student loan.
    In addition to improving college affordability, it is critical to 
help students obtain the resources they need to persist in and complete 
a postsecondary education. The Budget supports innovative and promising 
strategies to improve student success and degree completion, including:
  --Enhancing institutional capacity at HBCUs, TCCUs, MSIs, and low-
        resourced institutions, including at community colleges, by 
        requesting $1.3 billion in institutional support under Titles 
        III and V of the Higher Education Act. Additionally, the 
        Request includes a $100 million initiative in the FIPSE program 
        to expand research and development infrastructure at four-year 
        HBCUs, TCCUs, and MSIs.
  --$100 million for the Postsecondary Student Success Grant Program, 
        which provides competitive grants to States, nonprofits, 
        institutions of higher education (IHEs), and systems of IHEs to 
        implement, expand, and evaluate evidence-based, data driven 
        completion and success strategies to improve student outcomes.
  --$80 million to colleges and universities providing affordable 
        childcare for low- income student parents, a $5 million 
        increase over FY 2023 and FY 2024 enacted levels to the Child 
        Care Access Means Parents in School Program, or CCAMPIS.
  --Increased funding for Federal TRIO programs and GEAR UP, $20 
        million and $10 million, respectively, above FY 2023 and FY 
        2024 enacted levels to expand services that promote access and 
        completion in postsecondary education for underserved 
        individuals.
  --$15 million to support a new Statewide Reform Grants program that 
        awards grants to States and state higher education governing, 
        policy, and coordinating entities to implement statewide 
        improvements and reforms to the entire spectrum of 
        postsecondary education--from access to career outcomes and 
        student success.
  --$10 million to support a new Postsecondary Advancement and Success 
        Technical Assistance Center to improve access to equitable 
        college inclusion, completion, and retention opportunities.
  --$12 million for the Open Textbooks Pilot to create new open 
        textbooks and expand their use, in alignment with the 
        Administration's goal of lowering the cost of college and 
        eliminating unnecessary junk fees.
    The Budget will improve the services we provide students and 
families to help them pay for college through an essential investment 
in Student Aid Administration. With limited resources, this 
Administration has been engaged on multiple fronts to improve the 
student aid experience, including on actions that are Congressionally 
directed. Some of these efforts include implementing an entirely new 
student aid formula, revamping a 40-year-old student aid application 
system, navigating a successful return to repayment from the pandemic-
driven payment pause, and overhauling a broken student loan servicing 
system. We are requesting $2.7 billion to administer the Federal 
student aid programs in FY 2025, an increase of $625 million and $600 
million, respectively, over FY 2023 and FY 2024 enacted, to support 
students and student loan borrowers as they navigate these modernized 
financial aid application and student loan repayment processes. The 
increase will allow the Office of Federal Student Aid (FSA) to 
effectively operate the student aid programs, and additionally protect 
against cybersecurity breaches to ensure protection of borrowers' 
personal information, implement critical improvements to student loan 
servicing, continue to modernize its digital infrastructure, and ensure 
successful administration of the financial aid programs through a 
simplified application process for students and borrowers.
             education research, assessment, and statistics
    Education research and data are important because high-quality 
information about effective practices and trends in student achievement 
can help improve teaching and learning, student outcomes, and the 
return on the public investment in education at the Federal, State, and 
local levels. Our Budget requests $816 million for the Institute of 
Education Sciences, an $8 million increase above the FY 2023 enacted 
level and $22 million above the FY 2024 enacted level, to conduct, 
provide and share research and scientific evidence in education.
                    enforcement of civil rights laws
    Finally, we prioritize efforts to enforce the Nation's civil rights 
laws, as they relate to education, by providing $162 for the Office for 
Civil Rights, a $22 million increase above FY 2023 and FY 2024 enacted. 
The increase would be primarily used to expand staffing capacity to 
address a complaint workload that has tripled since 2009 and has 
included alarming reports of rising Antisemitism and anti-Arab 
discrimination in our Nation's schools and college campuses.
                            closing remarks
    I want to thank the Committee for inviting me to discuss the 
President's FY 2025 Budget for the Department of Education. I have 
often said that a budget is a statement of values. As you review and 
consider our budget request, I hope you see how committed President 
Biden and I are to boldly raising the bar in education--to transform 
our education system to better serve the needs of all students. Our 
Budget is dedicated to achieving that goal. Our children and our 
country deserve it. Thank you, and I will do my best to respond to any 
questions you may have.

    Senator Baldwin. We are going to now begin rounds of 5-
minute questioning. And I will start that out.

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    Secretary Cardona, like many of my colleagues, I am 
troubled by the ongoing FAFSA implementation issues, and I am 
also deeply concerned that the number of our high school 
seniors, who have fully completed their FAFSA, is down nearly 
30 percent from last year, and even lower among students in 
low-income schools.
    I know that your staff is working hard to fix this, but as 
I said earlier, the Department has to get this right, and fast. 
Can you briefly describe what you and your staff are doing, 
right now, to get FAFSA back on track, including increasing 
completion rates this year so students don't lose access to 
financial aid?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes. Thank you, Senator. I can assure 
you that this issue is something that I take very seriously, 
very personally, and I acknowledge the frustration and 
challenges that families and schools are facing. Thirty years 
ago, when I was ready to make decisions about higher education, 
I never filled out the FAFSA. I was probably eligible, but it 
was such a big task that I was intimidated by it, and I didn't 
want to put that pressure on my family to go through that 
process. It felt too difficult.
    And for far too long in this country, too many students 
that have potential have missed out on Federal aid dollars to 
chase their dreams. So, I recognize the frustration and the 
challenge, but the problem that hasn't been touched in 40 
years. The rollout of the Better FAFSA has been riddled with 
delays and challenges, and it has been something that we have 
prioritized at the Department of Education.
    We are doing everything every day to make it right. We are 
holding FAFSA clinics. We are providing daily communication to 
colleges. We have sent information out over a month ago to 
schools, and we are on daily calls with college presidents, 
financial aid directors, hundreds of webinars in different 
languages. We are visiting States and helping with clinics for 
families. If you visit Ed.gov, and there is a spot right there 
where you can see resources for Better FAFSA.
    Just yesterday, I was on the call with national community-
based organizations who have signed up to hold clinics to make 
sure that they are connecting the dots with schools, and we are 
providing day-to-day support to educators, parents, students 
based on what we are hearing. We recognize the importance of 
this, and we are doing everything in our power to make sure we 
are providing more opportunities for students to fill out the 
Better FAFSA.
    At the end of the day, we are expecting the Better FAFSA 
can open the doors to an additional 600,000 students for higher 
education, and that is a huge difference for the potential of 
our country and the potential of our students.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you for that answer. While we are 
still working on FAFSA, this cycle, we know that next year is 
right around the corner, and students cannot bear another year 
of delays. So, can you commit to an on-time launch for the 
2025--2026 FAFSA by October 1 of this year? And will you commit 
that colleges will get all the data that they need from the 
FAFSA as soon as the FAFSA is launched?
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you. Yes. This is something that 
we have been focusing on while we are rolling out this year's 
FAFSA, thinking about next year's FAFSA. And I commit to make 
sure that we are moving all of our resources to make sure that 
we adhere to the time lines and do everything in our power to 
make sure not only that we are staying true to the time lines 
but also communicating with parents, students, and schools.
    Senator Baldwin. Okay. So will you be able to reach the 
October 1 deadline?
    Secretary Cardona. That is our expectation to reach the 
October 1 deadline.

                             MENTAL HEALTH

    Senator Baldwin. Okay. Mr. Secretary, I appreciate the work 
of the Department and administration on increasing access to 
mental health services for children and youth, and related 
proposals in the President's budget. While we have made some 
progress--certainly more needs to be done to overcome 
challenges that I hear about in Wisconsin, frankly every day. 
What I hear about is kids--getting kids the support they need. 
And I am also aware of the interest back home in the 
Department's school-based mental health programs funded out of 
the School Safety National Activities Program.
    We provided $216 million for that program in the budget 
that we just passed and directed the Department to use any 
funds not needed for current activities for new school-based 
Mental Health Grants. Do I have your commitment to use every 
available dollar from the School Safety National Activities 
Program for new Mental Health Grants, just as we directed in 
the recently passed budget?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes, we are committed to adhering to 
that.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. And can you describe how this 
budget request would expand and improve school-based Mental 
Health Services for kids?
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely. I have to tell you that one 
of the things that I feel pretty strongly about, as an educator 
who has had experience, even before the pandemic, addressing 
mental health needs in our schools, is that if the disruption 
of the pandemic results in us going back to the systems that we 
had for providing mental health for our students, we are 
failing our students.
    We are in a youth mental health crisis, and unfortunately 
across the country we have emergency room models of mental 
health support, meaning, after the trauma. We are committed to 
ensuring that funding and support for schools are available to 
make sure that students have the proactive support that they 
need.
    I have to say thanks to the Bipartisan Safer Communities 
Act. We have invested already $571 million in mental health 
services for students in K-12. We are committed to continuing 
to provide support funding for--in our budget proposal that is 
geared toward community--full-service community schools, will 
also bring in community providers to help students and families 
with mental health needs. There is a $40 million Grant to K-12 
Mental Health Services.
    What we are seeing is that some of it is proactive, just 
helping students understand how they are feeling, and 
communicate emotions. And we are also seeing an increase in 
support providers. There has been a 40 percent increase in 
school social workers; that is significant given where we are 
as a country. We have seen an increase of 25 percent of school 
nurses, which is again something that I know for the families 
and students that have benefited from that, they are thankful.
    So, we are committed to keeping that trajectory moving, 
recognizing that a strong system of mental health support for 
students is the foundation for academic progress and students 
reaching their potential.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Capito.

               ANTISEMITISM AND CIVIL RIGHTS ENFORCEMENT

    Senator Capito. Thank you. Mr. Secretary. I mentioned in my 
opening statement the Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 
prohibits discrimination on race, color, or national origin in 
programs and activities that receive Federal financial 
assistance. No student should feel unsafe on their campus, yet 
just last week Columbia University had to move classes online, 
and Jewish students were told by a campus Rabbi to go home, 
because it was no longer safe for them on their campus.
    And late last night, protesters took over Hamilton Hall on 
campus, and the University is locked down today with access 
limited to only residential students, if there-- whoever is 
left there. I would imagine some parents have said, you must 
leave, and essential personnel. This is just totally 
unacceptable.
    So, Secretary Cardona, do you believe what his happening to 
Jewish students at Columbia and in other colleges and 
universities across this country, is okay?
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely not. I think what is 
happening on our campuses is abhorrent, hate has no place in 
our campuses, and I am very concerned with the reports of anti-
semitism. I have spoken to Jewish students who have feared 
going to class as a result of some of the harassment that they 
are facing on campuses.
    It is unacceptable. And we are committed, as a Department 
of Education to adhering to Title VI enforcement. We have 137 
open cases. We take this very seriously. We have increased the 
number of communications to college campuses to make sure that 
they have what they need in terms of the law and best practices 
on how to make sure they are protecting students.
    Look, as an educator, lifelong educator, protecting 
students is our number one responsibility. We take that 
seriously, and you know the anti-semitism that we have seen on 
campus is unacceptable.
    Senator Capito. Unacceptable, we agree. So you have 136 
cases you said. How long does a case take? I mean, by the time 
this goes through the system, quite frankly, it is either going 
to be all over, or one way or the other. To me that is sort of 
an--I mean, that is good.
    Secretary Cardona. Yes.
    Senator Capito. I am glad you are doing that, but you have 
more immediate means at your disposal, for instance, removing 
Federal funds from institutions that get Federal funds, which I 
imagine most all of them--well they all do----
    Secretary Cardona. Right.
    Senator Capito [continuing]. If they are in violation of 
Title VI.
    Secretary Cardona. You are absolutely right.
    Senator Capito. Are you intending to do that?
    Secretary Cardona. You are absolutely right, investigating 
the cases is the enforcement part of it, but we do have on our 
website, Ed.gov, there is a button there Supporting Campus 
Safety, with guidance and regulations around how to do that. 
And this is why in our budget we are proposing a $22 million 
increase to increase the number of investigators so we can move 
on those investigations that are open. And ultimately if a 
school refuses to comply with Title VI, yes, we would remove 
Federal dollars.
    Senator Capito. Well, I mean a school can refuse. I mean, 
can go ahead and say they are going to abide by Title VI, but 
they are not doing anything. I would commend to you, our former 
member of the Senate, who is now the President at the 
University of Florida, he is not taking a light touch here. I 
mean, he is saying, for many days we have patiently told 
protesters, many of whom are agitators, or outsiders that they 
were able to exercise their right to free speech and free 
assembly.
    We also told them that, clearly, prohibited activities 
would result in trespassing order from the University Police. 
This is not complicated, the University of Florida is not a 
daycare, and we do not treat protesters like children, they 
know the rules, they break the rules, and they will face the 
consequences.
    I mean, I would recommend this, put this on the front of 
your page on best way to deal with anti-semitism on campus.
    Secretary Cardona. We do have a statement that I have 
updated after the campus protest, that makes it very clear that 
being unsafe on campus is not going to be tolerated, and that 
we do not condone, and we definitely reject any calls for 
genocide, or any calls for anti-semitism--or any anti-semitism 
on campus. And that is something that I have been pretty 
adamant about even before October 7.
    Senator Capito. Do you have people at Columbia right now on 
the scene to see what is going on there? Do you have staff 
there to watch?
    Secretary Cardona. I do not have staff at the moment.
    Senator Capito. Does the Civil Rights Office have somebody 
up there?
    Secretary Cardona. I do not have staff at the Columbia 
University. And I should share with you that we do have an open 
investigation at Columbia University.

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    Senator Capito. All right. Okay. I want to move to the 
FAFSA because I brought that up in my opening statement, the 
data that I used I put up here on a chart just so everybody 
could see. 36 percent down among freshmen nationally, in West 
Virginia down 40 percent, and I can tell you, Sarah Tucker, who 
heads up our Higher Education has been a wonderful resource for 
me on data, but also trying to help us find a way to get this 
going.
    This is disturbing as well. I talked to somebody who works 
at--a career and technical, she has more adult students, they 
are totally confused, so students that are amongst West 
Virginia students, age 25 and up, down 35 percent.
    Now, if you said, we are going to get 600,000 more students 
because of the simplification. You have lost all these students 
this year, think about that in terms of what that does going 
forward for the next four--the chances are for the next 4 years 
those students may not, some of them, maybe the majority of 
them--you are already going to lose students in that year, and 
maybe life gets in the way and they decide, I can't move 
forward on this, I am not even going to fill this out. It took 
too long. I don't understand it. I don't know what is going on.
    We have got to be more aggressive here. And I honestly get 
tired. I am on the Appropriations Committee, and it is all 
about money. But it seems like the only solution we ever hear 
is: I need more money for staff.
    Well, this could have been done a lot better. We should 
have heard from--what you said today we should have been 
hearing that a year ago, so that we could have been prepared 
for where we are. And I am sure you feel the same way; that you 
would have liked to have had that conversation a year ago.
    Is there any way--I mean is there--you know Senator Collins 
asked for an apology. Have you apologized? Have you said: We 
know we have really screwed this up and we need to make it 
better for, not just the students, but the institutions as 
well?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes. Absolutely.
    Senator Capito. I will give you a chance to----
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely. I have spoken to parents and 
students directly. I have sat with them while they are filling 
out FAFSA. We, at the FSA have worked to return 28 million 
borrowers to repayment, we changed servicers under FAFSA--
Better FAFSA----
    Senator Capito. You have also worked on forgiving a whole 
lot of student debt, that has diverted a lot of your resources 
into this, while you are not focusing on the fundamentals of 
people trying to go to college for the first time.
    Secretary Cardona. I would welcome an opportunity to engage 
with folks in West Virginia to share the strategies that we are 
doing. And I would love to work together with you to make sure 
that the West Virginians have access to higher education. The 
form is now about 15 minutes, we are processing. If a student 
in West Virginia applies today, by Friday the colleges are 
going to have the information. We have processed over 8.2 
million of----
    Senator Capito. Are you accurately processing now?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes, we are accurately processing.
    Senator Capito. That was an issue too.
    Secretary Cardona. We made those corrections, and we are 
accurately processing information. And to be very frank with 
you, I have been hearing students are getting their letters. 
Look, we are on the same team here, we want to get as many 
students connected.
    Senator Capito. Right.
    Secretary Cardona. And I look forward to working with you 
to make sure we can do that in your State.
    Senator Capito. Thank you.
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Murphy.
    Senator Murphy. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
    Secretary, good to see you.
    Secretary Cardona. Yes.

                    BIPARTISAN SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT

    Senator Murphy. Meriden says, hello. I want just to take a 
moment to thank members of this committee for the work that 
they put in, now, almost 2 years ago to make the Bipartisan 
Safer Communities Act a reality, we have already referenced it 
a number of times in this hearing. $13 billion much of it going 
to our schools to help build in-school Mental Health resources 
and build support services around children in need.
    But the data, the numbers, are really compelling. Since we 
passed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act we have seen a 
stunning drop in gun crime in this country from 2022 when we 
passed the bill to 2023, we saw a 12 percent reduction, in 
urban gun homicides, that is the biggest 1 year drop in the 
history of the country. While we are still collecting 
information on 2024, it looks as if there is going to be 
another massive drop in gun crime in 2024, in the 200 biggest 
cities in the country.
    The first 3 months of this year, compared to the first 3 
months of last year have seen a 20 percent average drop in 
crime. That is really something to celebrate.

                          CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM

    But I want to talk to you, Mr. Secretary, about a 
concerning development in our schools that, if unaddressed, 
potentially threatens to interrupt some of this really 
tremendous progress. And that is the increasing amounts of 
chronic absenteeism that we are seeing.
    There is a direct line between kids who are chronically out 
of school, and at-risk behaviors. And so, we want to continue 
to build on this remarkable success, because the story of this 
drop in crime is connected to the work that we are doing in our 
schools. You have a billion dollars in BSCA (Bipartisan Safer 
Communities Act) to use for building positive school climates, 
and then you have got a new $8 billion initiative in this 
budget, that amongst other things, is dedicated to trying to 
build--tackle chronic absenteeism, and try to build increasing 
safer and welcoming schools. Can you just talk a little bit 
about the importance of reversing this post-pandemic trend?
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely. Thank you, Senator. You 
know, throughout my career, whether I was a fourth-grade 
teacher or school principal, we would track the absenteeism of 
our students, and it was a clear correlation between students 
who were missing school and students who were struggling to get 
ahead, academically.
    So we often refer to absenteeism as a symptom of something 
greater. So the work that we are doing, and this budget 
reflects the priority that we take, that we are making with 
addressing chronic absenteeism, and introducing additional 
strategies across the country, because after the pandemic, it 
has gotten worse. In many States, they are much worse now than 
they were before the pandemic.
    We are holding a convening at the White House in a 
bipartisan fashion on May 15, to address strategies to improve 
chronic absenteeism. We recognize that if we don't address 
chronic absenteeism, all the strategies, and the tutoring, and 
the supports we provide in school, won't have the effect that 
it is supposed to have.
    It is all hands-on-deck, we are working with State chiefs, 
we are working with superintendents, teachers groups, to make 
sure that this message is one that we can all get behind. 
Students need to be in school. Part of this strategy is also 
increasing Full-Service Community Schools, because as I said 
earlier, attendance is a symptom of something else.
    When we have full-service community schools that are 
meeting the needs of the students and families, they are more 
likely to attend school.

                   FOSTERING DIVERSE SCHOOLS PROGRAM

    Senator Murphy. Let me ask one additional question. You 
have a really interesting demonstration grant program that you 
have used Title IV-A funds for, and this is the Fostering 
Diverse Schools Program. Listen, I am a believer that we should 
be in the business of helping give our students more access to 
diverse schools. The data just tells us that if you are in a 
diverse school, racially and economically diverse school, you 
are going to be more ready to learn--to succeed as an adult.
    Do you have data, yet, to understand how those 
demonstration grants are succeeding? I think you have made 
about ten 2-year planning grants, and four 5-year 
implementation grants. And if you don't, when are we going to 
know the impact that those grants have had?
    Secretary Cardona. Sure. You know, let me just comment. You 
know, as someone who grew up in an environment where I was able 
to attend diverse schools, and really learn how to navigate 
people from different cultures, and understand people with 
different perspectives, I think that helped me in my career, 
and I do believe all students benefit from that.
    So, this is something that we do stand behind, and I would 
be happy to follow up with you, and have my team follow up with 
you on some data to support that, whether it is through our 
grants or grants that we--or programs that we have seen across 
the country.
    Senator Murphy. I always tell the story. And I will turn it 
back to you, Madam Chair. The merit in public schools--you 
know, Connecticut does not have as many diverse school 
districts as we should. Meriden is one of them. And the level 
of engagement from those students, they know what they have, 
they know how special their experience is, and you feel it when 
you walk into any of these Meriden schools. So I appreciate 
that context that you bring.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Vice-Chair Collins.
    Senator Collins. Thank you, Madam Chair.

                FREE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL STUDENT AID

    Mr. Secretary, I want to ask you a very basic question, and 
that is, after all the time the Department had to implement the 
bill that Congress enacted to simplify the Federal financial 
aid forms, why wasn't it ready when it went live? I just don't 
understand, why, given that the Department had more than 3 
years, given the fact that Congress was very specific on what 
should be done, no more hundred questions on the form, for 
example?
    Secretary Cardona. Right.
    Senator Collins. What happened?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes. Thank you for that. And Congress--
Senator, I do share the frustration you share. Our kids deserve 
better, and we are working around the clock to make sure it 
improves. We have had delays. We had issues with some of the 
coding that we had to make changes to. And you know, it is an 
overhaul, it is not just a new website, it is an overhaul of a 
new formula, it required engaging with tax information 
differently.
    So, look, there is no excuse. Our students deserve better, 
and I am committed to making sure the process works to make 
sure that more students have access to higher education, and 
into a simpler FAFSA. A FAFSA process that encourages families 
to engage, and gives students an opportunity for higher ed.
    Senator Collins. I have worked at a college in Maine, 
Husson University in Bangor, and I know how critical Federal 
financial aid and other support are for students. In many cases 
it makes a difference between whether they go to college or 
not. And this is particularly true with first-generation 
college students. And back when I worked at Husson, the 
majority of students were first-generation.
    One reason that I wanted to help Lamar Alexander and others 
simplify the process, is I heard so many complaints about it. 
And the statistics that Senator Capito showed you about what is 
happening in West Virginia, I am sure could be applied to the 
State of Maine. So the problem is that the ineptitude here has 
real-life consequences. And I am curious whether you considered 
testing the new system with a small group of schools to ensure 
that it worked before it went live?
    Secretary Cardona. Yes. Thank you for that. And thank you 
for sharing that perspective. I am in agreement with you, we 
have to get it right for our students, and this is going to 
have an impact for generations. And yes, the process did 
involve testing and getting information from colleges. We have 
been in constant communication with financial aid directors 
across the country, with college presidents, hundreds of--I 
have been in those conversations myself, to test out processes, 
to hear from them what needs adjustments, and we have been 
adjusting.
    So, I recognize the strain it has put on colleges, on 
financial aid offices, and they have bent over backwards to 
really meet students' needs, and we are appreciative of that. 
And we are listening to them as we are making decisions moving 
forward.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    Senator Collins. I want to turn to the issue of the 
incidents of anti-semitism on far too many of our college 
campuses. The Anti-Defamation League has said that in the 
country, as a whole, that anti-semitic incidents are up 360 
percent since October 7, so it isn't just our college campuses, 
it is a problem nationwide, and a very disturbing one.
    But you do have the authority to investigate these 
incidences, and I am curious what specific communications you 
have had with institutions of higher education regarding anti-
semitism, regarding Jewish students not feeling safe, not 
feeling like they can attend classes? And when did you post any 
communications on this issue?
    Secretary Cardona. Okay. Thank you for that. And we are in 
agreement, Senator, it is unacceptable. I have spoken to Jewish 
students who have shared with me that they have had to take a 
different route to class, or that their parents don't feel safe 
sending them to school. And while you know safe and peaceful 
protests are protected by the First Amendment Right, not when 
they are unsafe, violent, or they are attacking students on 
campus.
    Look, I have a student in college myself, a child. I 
wouldn't want to send my child to a campus if I feel that they 
are not safe. That is the most important thing to me, to make 
sure that our kids are safe on campus.
    If you look on Ed.gov, there is a safer--supporting campus 
safety, it is--I repeat it because I want people to look at it. 
We have over a hundred resources and tools that many of them 
were put up after October 7th. But as you mentioned, this was 
an issue before October 7, there was a rise in anti-semitism 
before. And I have met with Jewish leaders at the Department of 
Education, I have met with students, I have been on college 
campuses talking to students, professors, presidents, who are 
struggling with it, and I have been on campuses where they are 
doing it well.
    So, if you look on that website, you will see examples of 
that. And as recently as this week, or late last week we put up 
updated information to address the issues that college campuses 
are facing. It is of utmost importance. I agree with you. We 
need to do better for our students on campus to make sure that 
they are safe.
    Senator Collins. And again, there is a big difference 
between peaceful, legitimate protest, and what we are talking 
about, harassment----
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely.
    Senator Collins [continuing]. Intimidation that cannot be 
allowed. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
    And thank you, Secretary, for being here. I reiterate what 
my colleague, Senator Capito from West Virginia; we are very 
much getting inundated on people concerning FAFSA. I have 
another--a problem that I have is the student debt forgiveness.
    Secretary Cardona. Um-hum.

                    PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS

    Senator Manchin. First of all, we have a bill out called 
the SMARTER Debt Act, and when people call my office we gave 
them 50 different variations of how they can reduce their debt 
without being--and give them a way they can work it off. They 
get paid, but they can work their debt off. I will give you a 
perfect example, all these smart, young people that work in our 
offices, when they come here and they have a 1-year contract, 
they get basically--we pay since they are working, we need them 
here, they get paid while they are working, but then we also 
pay their debt commitment.
    After 10 years it is totally forgiven. But you are not 
tell--no one is doing anything. Do you know how long it took us 
to find all 50 categories, whether it be in health professions, 
whether it is in public service, there are so many ways, 
scientific research, general repayment, everything, there are 
so many things, but yet we end up giving $620 billion of debt 
cancellation, has already been implemented including $275 
billion from President Biden's new income-driven repayment, and 
then we are talking about doing another $750.
    We are spending more on giving money away than we ever did 
on education. It makes no sense to me at all. And you all have 
done nothing as the Department of Education showing me how I 
can take this burden off of me while I still get paid and I am 
contributing to society.

                    STUDENT LOAN FINANCIAL LITERACY

    We have no financial requirements whatsoever, literacy, 
when a student goes into the college, as I am understanding it, 
you please correct me if I am wrong, they will go there and 
they say how much--what is your family's income, and do you get 
the Stafford Loan. So, you can borrow--they said, well, you can 
borrow up to $12,000 with your family income.
    They might only need $6,000, but they will take all 
$12,000, and then most of them majority fall out in 2 years. 
They think it is all free money because they have no payments 
at all, there is no accrued interest whatsoever, but when it 
comes time to pay the piper it hits them hard, because we don't 
require any financial literacy on the front end.

                              DEBT BURDEN

    This is stupid. And we just keep piling it on like it is--
there is no end to it. Your debt is $34.5 trillion and growing 
every day, and we are not going to be able to burn this--
education, and we are dumbing down on top of that, students 
aren't getting any better. And how about the kids who don't go 
to school? In our little State there is an awful lot of kids 
that can't go to school. They come to us as: Do you mean, I am 
working and paying my taxes, and you are giving it away to 
people who went to college and had a good time, and now they 
don't want to pay it back. Had a better chance for an 
opportunity, don't want to pay it back?
    We have got to answer. Do you want to know why the rural 
America, and urban and rural America is getting further and 
further apart, is because rural America has been being left 
behind and getting screwed. That is exactly why.
    So, sir, I don't know what in the hell you all are doing, 
but this makes no sense to me. If you would just take a look at 
our SMARTER Debt Act, we put it all together for you, it will 
be able--you can put on your website tomorrow and start showing 
people how to take the burden of high student loan debt off of 
their back by giving services back that we need in so many 
areas of our Government.
    So many areas of our country, everyone needs it, every 
State. But you all don't do it. Did you know about what we are 
talking about, the SMARTER?
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you for your comments, sir. And I 
think we share the opinion that higher education has been out 
of reach for too many people, and that we have a broken system. 
We are proud of the work that we are doing, to provide teachers 
who are making $35,000 a year, debt relief after 10 years of 
service in public service.
    So, we are committed to working with you, and others, this 
to me is about that teacher that I spoke to recently who has 
$60,000 in loans because the interest compounded. She took out 
a $30,000 loan, and is now owing $60,000, making under $40,000. 
The system is broken, and what we are trying to do is fix it. 
The Bipartisan Bill that passed --

                    STUDENT LOAN FINANCIAL LITERACY

    Senator Manchin. Why don't we just educate a person that 
basically when they take the debt out, when they sign up for 
the Stafford Loan, that they think is free money, it is not 
free money. Explain to them what their budget--so they have a 
budget when they go to college, this is your budget.
    Secretary Cardona. Um-hum.
    Senator Manchin. But if you tell a kid that they get 
$12,000, I will guarantee they will have a nice apartment and 
end up buying a car.
    Secretary Cardona. The folks that we are providing debt 
relief to, sir, are public servants, are veterans that have 
served our public, and have done it not to become rich, but to 
make their community better, people who have been taken 
advantage of by universities or colleges.
    Senator Manchin. I agree with all that.
    Secretary Cardona. So, we are trying to fix a system to 
make higher education more affordable.
    Senator Manchin. We have to--you are in the Education 
Department, you have to educate people on what is available.
    Secretary Cardona. Right?
    Senator Manchin. The education of basically the 
congressionally authorized student loan forgiveness programs. 
It is out there, 50 different categories where a student can 
say, oh, I am going to go in this education. I am going to work 
over here. I am going go in health. I am going go in scientific 
research, and I will go work over there because that takes care 
of my debt, to paying for my college tuition.
    But no, they go out and whatever happens because they have 
no idea, it comes back to roost on them. And I don't know. I am 
done.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Chairwoman Baldwin, and 
Ranking Member.
    I want to talk to you today, Mr. Secretary, and thank you 
for being here----
    Secretary Cardona. Of course.

                                TITLE IX

    Senator Hyde-Smith [continuing]. On something that is very 
near and dear to me in the State of Mississippi. On April the 
19th, the Department of Education released its Omnibus Title IX 
Rule, which frankly flies in the face of the original intent 
for Title IX.
    I have been around a long time. I have followed this, and 
it is amazing what this new rule is doing. There are many 
troubling aspects of it, like its weakening of due process 
protections. You know, in your own comments, in your own words, 
as you said here today, you said protecting students is the 
number one priority for you. Then you said: The most important 
thing for me is student safety. So I am glad to know that you 
have stated that for us today.

               SCHOOLS SHARING GENDER STATUS WITH PARENTS

    Redefining the word ``sex'' to include gender identity and 
compelling speech is part of this. You are redefining the 
definition of ``sex''. Does the rule require schools to share 
information with parents regarding their children's gender 
status?
    Secretary Cardona. As an educator I can tell you that 
engaging with families and communicating with families 
regularly is an important part of the work.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. But does it require the schools to 
share information with parents? Does this rule require schools 
to share the information with parents regarding their 
children's gender status? Does it require it?
    Secretary Cardona. Whether this rule does or not, parents 
and schools should be working together, and that is an 
expectation of educators, and that is what they have been 
doing. I have to tell you the rule strengthens protections for 
students. It is about keeping students----
    Senator Hyde-Smith. I don't necessarily agree with that. 
And I only have 5 minutes, so I am going to continue on. Do you 
investigate schools that socially transition children without 
notifying students' parents? Do you investigate those schools?
    Secretary Cardona. I do not investigate the schools that do 
that.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. So if they don't follow the rule, there 
are no consequences, and there is no investigation?
    Secretary Cardona. If there is a Title IX investigation 
request, we look at the merits of the request.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. So you do investigate schools that 
socially transition children without their parents' knowledge?
    Secretary Cardona. Depending on what the request is, I 
defer that to the investigators at OCR whether or not to take a 
case.

               IMPACT OF TITLE IX REGULATIONS ON FEMALES

    Senator Hyde-Smith. With the new rule redefining the word 
``sex'', what does your Department have to say about how this 
rule will impact biological females? I am thinking specifically 
about how it will allow transgender students to choose any 
bathroom, any locker room they wish, therefore eliminating the 
safe spaces for women and even pushing women out of athletics 
altogether? Do you agree that they are eliminating those safe 
spaces when they allow transgenders to choose the bathroom and 
the locker room that they want to go in?
    Secretary Cardona. I don't. And I will tell you why. I have 
been an educator for about 25 years, and it is the role of 
educators to make sure that students have the safety and 
privacy that they need, and that we take into account the 
perspectives of different students. You know, Senator, we 
cannot pick and choose which students we want to protect. All 
students deserve protection in our schools, and what this Title 
IX Rule does is ensure that all students, including our LGBTQI 
students, are protected.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. So when a biological male goes into the 
locker room with biological females, you think that that is a 
safe space for those young girls?
    Secretary Cardona. When girls walk into bathrooms, that 
is--you may not be recognizing students who are transgender, 
but because you don't recognize them doesn't mean that I don't 
protect them.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. But biological males going into a 
girl's locker room, and a girl's bathroom, you have no problem 
with that whatsoever, and you consider them being safe in all 
circumstances?
    Secretary Cardona. Again, I think the line of questioning 
is trying to create division. What we are trying to do is 
protect all students.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. I am not trying to create division. You 
just said protecting students is my number one priority.
    Secretary Cardona. Yes. All students.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. So do you feel like that those 
biological females are protected in that setting to the best of 
your ability, you are protecting them?
    Secretary Cardona. The Title IX regulations that we have 
protect all students, and give them access to the same 
opportunities that all other students have in our schools. As I 
said before, we can't pick and choose which students we want to 
protect, and for partly----
    Senator Hyde-Smith. I totally agree all students need 
protecting. But there is a difference in boys and girls and 
where they change clothes and undress. Do you agree with that?
    Secretary Cardona. Schools make rules on how to make sure 
students are safe and have privacy in our schools. We have been 
doing this, educators have been doing this, and the Title IX 
Rules just reinforce the work that they have to do to also 
protect students who are LGBTQ who have, unfortunately, 
historically in our country been under attack, and we need to 
protect those----
    Senator Hyde-Smith. No one is attacking anyone right now. 
We are talking about school safety and girls' locker rooms and 
bathrooms. Nobody is trying to attack anyone. We want all 
students safe.
    Secretary Cardona. We do.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. So you don't need to change the 
conversation that somebody is attacking someone. So your 
position is that they still have the safe spaces that they 
deserve when biological girls are undressing? That is your 
position?
    Secretary Cardona. It is my honor as an educator to protect 
students who have been marginalized in our community and 
because of that require additional mental health supports. 
These students, I am not saying you are attacking them. I am 
saying they are under attack in this country, and as Secretary 
of Education, it is my responsibility to protect all students, 
not just some.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. In the same breath that you say safety 
is number one.
    Thank you, Madam Chairman.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Boozman.
    Senator Boozman. Thank you, Madam Chair.

        FREE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL STUDENT AID AND FARM ASSETS

    Thank you, Mr. Secretary, for being here. I want to 
associate myself again with the problems of the FAFSA rollouts, 
you have heard so much about that. And it truly is a huge 
problem. One of the things that has come up is the farm and 
small business reporting requirement Question 22 Form. This 
question requires students to report the net worth of the 
family's business or for-profit agriculture operations.
    Given the fluctuation in revenue year-over-year operating a 
farm, Question 22 misunderstands how farm families operate. 
Farm assets cannot be cashed out to support a loan in the same 
capacity as traditional investments.
    Throughout the process of drafting this requirement, and I 
understand this is not something you have done, this is 
something Congress did. Okay. But it has unintended 
consequences that nobody realized. Has the Department engaged 
in conversations with farming stakeholders to understand the 
impacts of such a requirement? I think it is going to be very, 
very difficult for any farm family to actually be able to get, 
you know, the student aid that they have, in the past, in the 
future under this requirement.
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you for sharing that, Senator. And 
I am committed to making sure we are talking in--and yes to 
answer your question, our team has talked to farm families, and 
we recognize the challenge that they are under. We are 
committed to working with them, and to making sure that they 
have access. I was in Arkansas recently, in the last 2 weeks, 
working on increasing FAFSA completion. I want to work with 
you, and everyone in Arkansas to get those numbers up.
    I think one of the things that we don't really talk about a 
lot is that across our country, we have normalized a 60 percent 
completion, 70 percent completion of FAFSA. It is our 
expectation, as we work together, to get those numbers closer 
to 90-95 percent of students filling it out. And we recognize 
that in rural communities, farm families have challenges and 
concerns with it, and we are committed to working with them, 
and you, to identify those issues and support them in the 
process.

                              ANTISEMITISM

    Senator Boozman. You know, and that is exactly what, we 
want you to do, work with us, work with Congress to make sure 
that this really isn't going to be a very, very negative thing. 
Surveys tell us that over 50 percent of the Jewish students, 
you know, feel threatened.
    Secretary Cardona. Yes.
    Senator Boozman. You have got lots of levers, and the only 
thing I would say is that we really do expect you to use those 
levers.
    Secretary Cardona. Yes.
    Senator Boozman. Nobody needs to be bullied; everyone needs 
to be safe, not only Jewish students, but students in general. 
And again, you are going to need to step up and use some of 
those levers. Some of them you can do it outwardly; others, you 
know, you have got a lot of ability to put pressure on 
institutions. And then transparency, you know, identifying 
these institutions----
    Secretary Cardona. Right.

                    STUDENT LOAN FINANCIAL LITERACY

    Senator Boozman [continuing]. That we are hearing, you 
know, report after report about, people need to understand what 
is going on. The other thing is I, you know, in listening to 
Senator Manchin, I think what he was saying really is really 
important. You know, you have students that simply are not 
financially literate when they get out of high school. I would 
be interested.
    You gave the example of the lady that had the $30,000 loan 
that ballooned to $60,000. The question is, did she know that 
was going to happen? And I suspect she didn't. I suspect that 
she had no idea that what she was signing, there is no 
incentive for the higher ed. institutions to provide that 
knowledge because this is a cash cow for them.
    You know that it is to their advantage for students to take 
these loans out. They don't care if they pay them back or not. 
They don't have any really advantage of explaining that, you 
know, this is money that is going to need to be paid back. The 
interest rate is going to be a burden, and looking at their 
potential, you know, income in the future, how are you going to 
cash flow all this out?
    So I would really encourage you. Let us help you with that. 
But that is something that I think would really, you know, we 
can debate the student loan thing. I agree with Senator Manchin 
on that also, but regardless of that, as far as eliminating the 
problem in the future, you know, if you want to have a real 
impact on people's lives and not getting them in the situations 
going forward, that really would have a tremendous impact.
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you.
    Senator Boozman. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Britt.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Madam Chair.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    Mr. Secretary, thank you for being here today, I greatly 
appreciate it. As you are aware and have heard from a number of 
my colleagues, the large anti-semitic demonstrations and 
encampments that have broken out on college campuses nationwide 
are simply unacceptable. This has become, you know, some of our 
``elite institutions'', quote/unquote. To me, it is just a 
national disgrace, and it is a disservice to America's future.
    Going back to November, Republican Senators, myself 
included, have written multiple letters urging you to uphold 
Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, and ensure that a safe 
learning environment exists for Jewish students. I know the 
Department has opened investigations, and I have heard you 
reference that today, into some of these institutions, 
including Columbia.
    However, things have clearly not gotten better over the 
last 5 or 6 months. And in fact, in recent weeks and even days, 
it has proven that they have gotten significantly worse.
    So Mr. Secretary, does the Biden administration really 
believe that it is effectively upholding Title VI, and ensuring 
a safe learning environment for Jewish students right now; just 
a simple yes or no?
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you, first of all, Senator. 
Because I agree with you, the anti-semitism that students are 
experiencing on campus is unacceptable.
    Senator Britt. Thank you.
    Secretary Cardona. We are committed to making sure we 
investigate Title----
    Senator Britt. And so investigation is one thing, but do 
you think right now that this Administration is upholding Title 
VI?
    Secretary Cardona. We are, with the resources that we have, 
we are here to request additional investigators. You know, in 
2009, the number of cases has tripled since 2009, and we have 
58 less people in the----
    Senator Britt. But how long does this have to go on? I 
mean, if you look at these, the absurdity of some of this, just 
rhetoric on these campuses when they are saying: We are Hamas. 
I mean, do you think that is acceptable for a Jewish student to 
have to hear that, or ``from the river to the sea'', or ``go 
back to Poland'', or ``kill the Jews''? My question is, do you 
think that that type of rhetoric is acceptable, and do you 
think that that allows for Jewish students to feel safe on 
campus, yes or no? Yes or no?
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely not.
    Senator Britt. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Do you 
think that it is okay to link arms and keep Jewish students 
from attending class? Do you think that is okay?
    Secretary Cardona. Absolutely not.
    Senator Britt. Thank you. I am afraid that this 
administration is not learning the lessons from the past. When 
you look at the history, it wasn't okay to do that in the 
1960s, do you understand, and it is not okay to do that now. 
This is the United States of America, we have to uphold the 
laws in front of us. We have to make sure that different groups 
based on their race or ethnicity are not discriminated against. 
We have to have safe learning environments, and it is my 
thought that the Biden administration is utterly failing the 
American people right now, and failing the Jewish community 
across this Nation. And I ask you to do more.
    I don't know what investigation it takes. I don't know 
where the bar is. But to me, all of the things I just 
referenced are enough, and I hope that you hold these 
institutions accountable, and I hope you create a safe space 
across this Nation for Jewish students to learn, to grow, and 
to be fostered on these college campuses, and anything less is 
unacceptable.

                                TITLE IX

    I would like to ask you about your new Title IX proposal. 
So this weekend, I sat at track sectionals watching my daughter 
run. I was so proud of her. She wanted to get her PR, which I 
have had to learn what that meant, but when I saw the 
difference and the disparities between the top female athletes, 
and then the top male athletes, they were significant.
    I am reminded, as we look back over history here, and I 
want to make it very clear, I believe we are all made in the 
image of God, and I believe each and every person should be 
treated with dignity and respect. But Title IX was created to 
create fairness, to create a level playing field, to give young 
women the opportunity to strive, to grow, and to succeed. And 
when I look at the reality of your new Title IX proposal, it 
clearly shows that that playing field is about to be tilted.
    You can look back to 1988, when you had Ms. Joyner, known 
as Flo-Jo, who created a record in both the 100 and 200 meter 
dash that still stands today, you can look in 2019 though that 
very record that stands would have been beaten by 76 high 
school biological males. And my question to you is how are we 
going to continue to create fairness if you are tilting the 
playing field and underneath this current proposal, is it true 
that a biological man could receive a scholarship designated 
for a woman for Collegiate Athletics?
    Secretary Cardona. Thank you for your passion. And I just 
want to clarify the Biden administration has over three times 
the number of investigations on Title VI than the Trump 
administration in 4 years, so we are committed.
    Senator Britt. Sir, an investigation though, is very 
different than action. And I appreciate the opportunity to look 
into it, but now is the time for action.
    Secretary Cardona. We have closed more cases also.

                COLLEGE CAMPUS PROTESTS AND ANTISEMITISM

    Senator Britt. And so what are you doing right now on 
Columbia's Campus?
    Secretary Cardona. On campus, the situation?
    Senator Britt. Yes. Um-hum.
    Secretary Cardona. We are doing a lot. You know, we have 
updated guidance, we have a letter in draft right now, we have 
increased the Title VI investigations, we have open 
investigations that----
    Senator Britt. So when you see what happens on GW's 
Campus--and Madam Chairwoman, I understand my time has 
expired--and you see that they have actually asked for, you 
know, public safety have asked the Mayor to send in police to 
help them with that situation, and she has refused. Do you 
stand by the Mayor, or do you stand by GW?
    Secretary Cardona. I stand by the students who deserve to 
be safe on campus. As a father, that is what I expect for my 
children, I expect that for children all across----
    Senator Britt. Absolutely.
    Secretary Cardona. I agree with you on that. Let us work 
together to make sure that the message is clear, that while the 
First Amendment is their freedom, when it crosses the line and 
makes students feel unsafe or harmed on campus, that is where 
we draw the line. I have spoken to Jewish students who have had 
anti-semitic comments made at them, it is----
    Senator Britt. It is disgusting and despicable.
    Secretary Cardona [continuing]. Unacceptable I agree with 
you.
    Senator Britt. Absolutely. Well, let us work together. And 
let us not just talk about it, let us do something now. Thank 
you.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Thank you for 
your presence here today.
    This will end our hearing. I would like to thank my fellow 
committee members. And thank you, Secretary Cardona.
    For any Senators who wish to ask additional questions, 
questions for the record will be due on May 7. The hearing 
record will also remain open until then for members who wish to 
submit additional materials for the record.
    [The following questions were not asked at the hearing, but 
were submitted to the Department for response subsequent to the 
hearing:]
               Questions Submitted to Hon. Miguel Cardona
               Questions Submitted by Chair Tammy Baldwin
    Question. Mr. Secretary, you are aware of the significant resource 
disparities between schools serving more students from families with 
low-incomes and their wealthier peers, including disproportionate 
access to experienced educators, advanced coursework, and more. These 
resource discrepancies contribute to the achievement gap between 
students of color--who represent more than half of students served in 
Title I schools--and white students. In fact, Education's National 
Center for Education Statistics School Pulse Survey recently reported 
that 84 percent of high schools with fewer than 25 percent students of 
color offered advanced academic courses but just 65 percent of high 
schools serving 75 percent or more of student of color did the same.
    As you know, an important provision included in the reauthorization 
of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act requires a review of 
resource inequities in schools which have been identified for support 
and improvement. However, recent reporting by the GAO shows just about 
half of schools required to conduct those reviews did so.
    This and other findings from the GAO report supported our direction 
to your Department to conduct additional monitoring and support, 
including through the Comprehensive Centers program, to strengthen 
implementation of school improvement requirements.
    While the Department has taken some actions, would you please share 
your thoughts on implementation of the school improvement requirements 
to date and commitment to implement direction in our recently-passed 
budget and take additional actions to improve this situation?
    Answer. The Department agrees that the requirement to identify and 
address resource inequities in comprehensive support and improvement 
(CSI) and additional targeted support and improvement (ATSI) plans is 
an essential element of the Title I accountability and school 
improvement system. The Department reviews these requirements each year 
in State educational agencies through our comprehensive consolidated 
monitoring of the ESEA formula grants programs, which includes a 
comprehensive review of the State's implementation of Title I. We know, 
however, that we can only conduct a handful of consolidated monitoring 
activities each year. That is why, in 2022, the Department conducted a 
targeted monitoring of the requirements related to resource inequities, 
as well as the requirement for each State to conduct a periodic 
resource allocation review in local educational agencies (LEAs) that 
serve a significant number of identified schools. Of the nine States 
that were included in the review, seven States did not meet this 
requirement. The Department issued a corrective action letter to each 
State that did not meet the requirement to provide evidence of how it 
ensured that all identified CSI and ATSI schools include the resource 
inequities requirement in approved support and improvement plans. This 
typically included revised CSI plan templates or revised monitoring 
protocols that ensured the SEA was reviewing CSI plans for this 
requirement prior to approving such plans. Further, the Department 
issued a Dear Colleague letter on July 11, 2023, that addresses key 
findings and highlights best practices from our targeted monitoring 
review. This letter (available at: DCL-Title-I-Resource-Equity-for-
posting.pdf) includes four recommendations for ensuring that all CSI 
and ATSI plans identify and address resource inequities. In addition, 
the Department continues to provide technical assistance to States 
regarding these important provisions, including recent presentations to 
over 45 States at the National Association of ESEA State Program 
Administrators annual conference and to over 40 States at the Council 
of Chief State School Officers. In addition, the Department plans to 
fund a new Comprehensive Center this year that will focus on providing 
technical assistance on fiscal equity, as well as ongoing support 
around ESEA implementation.
    The Department continues to focus on State compliance with school 
improvement requirements. This summer, the Department is conducting 
targeted monitoring of five States (which includes a discussion with 
one LEA in each of those States) of the school improvement funding 
requirements in ESEA section 1003. Similar to prior targeting 
monitoring efforts, the Department will share the results of its 
review, including common findings, recommendations, and best practices, 
with all States.
    Question. How would the budget support improved compliance and a 
reduction in these disparities?
    Answer. The Administration's FY2025 budget request provided a $200 
million increase from FY2023 enacted under Title I, Part A Grants to 
LEAs. In addition, the request proposed appropriations language to 
increase the Title I administrative cap, which would result in SEAs 
having more resources to provide technical assistance and oversight to 
LEAs to meet these important requirements. Furthermore, the funding for 
the Comprehensive Centers program will also provide important technical 
assistance to States. In particular, in addition to the National Center 
and the Regional Centers, this year's Notice Inviting Applications 
includes a competition for a new Fiscal Equity Center.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, you are well aware of the challenges 
public schools have experienced over the last couple of years. Our 
public schools have faced the major disruption of the pandemic and 
communities divided by what our students should learn and whether they 
should be accepted for who they are.
    As you know, the Title I-A grant program supports roughly half of 
all schools and includes a requirement that generally requires these 
schools to spend at least 1 percent of their grant award on parent and 
family engagement activities. Of course, any reduction to this program 
like that Proposed by House Republicans last year would significantly 
cut funding for this important work.
    Please share how the Department is supporting efforts to strengthen 
these critical connections needed to support students in their learning 
and school success. How does the budget propose to further strengthen 
these efforts?
    Answer. We agree that parent and family engagement is vital to 
fostering strong connections between communities and schools and 
supporting all students to reach their full potential. The Department 
is currently working on technical updates to its Parent Involvement: 
Title I, Part A, Non-Regulatory Guidance (April 2004) to reflect 
changes to requirements in section 1118 of the reauthorized Elementary 
and Secondary Education Act, as amended by the Every Student Succeeds 
Act, which we aim to release later this year. This guidance will 
reiterate the importance of parent and family engagement and remind 
States, districts, and schools about their responsibilities to provide 
timely, useful information to parents and families and meaningfully 
engage them in planning for how best to use Federal funds to meet local 
needs.
    The Department also continues to annually review State and local 
report cards to ensure that States are making key information publicly 
available to aid local decision-making. We conducted targeted 
monitoring of State and local report cards in summer 2023 to conduct 
oversight and inform our technical assistance. Based on our 
observations and findings, we will be providing additional guidance and 
technical assistance to make recommendations for improving the 
timeliness, usefulness, and quality of data on State and local report 
cards so they are valuable tools for parents and families.
    In addition, the President's FY 2025 budget includes an increased 
request of $200 million for the Full-Service Community Schools program 
to provide comprehensive social, health, and academic services in 
school settings for students, students' family members, and community 
members by integrating existing school and community programs, among 
other evidence-based features. The budget request also includes $1.3 
billion for 21st Century Community Learning Centers, which provides 
funds for before- and afterschool and summer programs designed to 
support students from low-income backgrounds and provide programs that 
offer their families opportunities for active and meaningful engagement 
in their children's education. The budget also includes $91 million for 
Promise Neighborhoods, which provides competitive grants to support 
distressed communities in improving the developmental and academic 
outcomes for children, youth, and their families from birth through 
college. Finally, the budget request includes $20 million for Statewide 
Family Engagement Centers, which provides funding to statewide 
organizations to establish statewide centers that promote parent and 
family engagement in education and provide comprehensive training and 
technical assistance to SEAs, LEAs, schools, and organizations that 
support partnerships between families and schools.
    Question. The President's budget rightly requests an increase of 
$22 million for Education's Office for Civil Rights. Every student, 
from early childhood education to our college campuses, deserves a safe 
place to learn, free from any hate and discrimination. In recent 
months, some have called for increased efforts to root out antisemitism 
in educational institutions which I fully agree we must do but they 
have paradoxically called for cutting funding for the very office that 
leads that work. In fact, House Republicans advanced a bill last year 
that would have cut funding for OCR by $35 million/25%.
    How would that reduction impacted OCR's ability this year to timely 
and thoroughly process complaints of discrimination of all types, 
including those based on shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics, and 
establish corrective measures for the educational institutions to 
implement to provide all students a school environment free from 
discrimination?
    Answer. If Congress cuts OCR's funding by $35 million in FY 2025, 
the average caseload per investigative staff would rise from 33 cases 
per staff, as of May 2024, to an estimated 120 cases in FY 2025, which 
is not manageable. OCR would not be able to support the current full- 
time employees on board. The budgeted number of staff would require 
cutting approximately 167 full-time employees--from 563 FTE to 396 FTE. 
This cut in funding would severely hamper OCR's ability to timely 
process complaints and increase OCR's case backlog significantly. A $35 
million cut in OCR's funding, which is equivalent to a 25% reduction, 
would disproportionately impact OCR's enforcement workforce, which 
represents more than 80% of OCR's full-time equivalents (FTEs). 
Consequently, the enforcement workforce would be most severely impacted 
by the reduction.
    Question. How would that reduction impact OCR's ability to initiate 
based on shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics, and establish 
corrective measures for educational institutions to implement to 
provide all students a school environment free from discrimination?
    Answer. If Congress cuts OCR's funding by $35 million to $105 
million, OCR will have to cut the investigative staff by approximately 
150 full-time employees (90% of the total 167 FTE cut). Such a cut 
would significantly jeopardize OCR's ability to conduct and conclude 
all investigations.
    Question. How would additional resources requested in the 
President's budget for fiscal year 2025 enable OCR to better fulfill 
its mission to ensure school environments are free from discrimination 
for all students?
    Answer. The additional $22,359,000 requested for fiscal year 2025 
would enable OCR to hire at least 77 additional investigative staff to 
help process the 22,179 complaints projected to be received in FY 2025. 
The additional investigative staff the average caseload per staff from 
51 to 47 cases per investigator, which is still a very high yet 
incrementally lower caseload.
    Question. Both the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and 
Education's Inspector General have raised concerns about the risks to 
Federal funds posed by certain types of charter schools from virtual 
schools to those with contracts with for-profit management 
organizations, and the need for effective oversight of the Charter 
School Program.
    Please provide an update on actions taken and planned to address 
recommendations made by the GAO in GAO-22-10444 and recommendations 1.2 
and 1.3 of IG ED-OIG/A21IL0034. How does the budget request support 
full and timely implementation of all corrective actions and 
recommendations?
    Answer. Regarding GAO-22-10444, the Department initiated a review 
process for the data that States submitted via EDFacts for the 2021-
2022 school year to examine participation rates of students attending 
public virtual schools on required state standardized tests. Consistent 
with the prior year, a letter will be sent to each State with a virtual 
charter school that assessed less than 95 percent of its students. The 
letter will include both the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 school year 
participation data. Additionally, the Department provides technical 
assistance and support to states regarding their submission of data via 
the EDFacts data initiative. Each state submits data and provides an 
assurance that the data are complete and accurate. The Department's 
expectation for the submission of chronic absenteeism data is that the 
data are collected from each school using a uniform definition, as 
stated in our file specifications (see here for the 2021-2022 school 
year--file specification 195 (data group 814): https://www2.ed.gov/
about/inits/ed/edfacts/eden/non-xml/fs195-18-0.docx). As noted in that 
document, the state is required to include a student absent ``when not 
physically on school grounds and were not participating in instruction 
or instruction-related activities at an approved off-grounds location 
for at least half the school day.'' As further specified in the file 
specification, the state should ``include all students in grades 
Kindergarten through Grade 12, and comparable ungraded levels, who were 
enrolled in the school for at least 10 school days at any time during 
the school year, and who were absent 10% of the school days in the 
school in which they were enrolled.'' Any student enrolled for 10 
school days or more in the school must be included in the file. We 
believe the guidance we have provided results in comparable data across 
virtual and brick-and-mortar schools. We have no indication at this 
time that the data are less reliable for virtual schools compared to 
brick-and-mortar schools. The Department further notes that attendance 
data does not impact funding decisions for Federal funds. Lastly, 
through new CSP regulations issued in July 2022, the Department has 
strengthened requirements to improve grantee reporting and increase 
transparency with respect to funded charter schools that are operated 
or managed through contracts with management organizations.
    Regarding recommendation 1.2 in ED-OIG/A21IL0034, The Charter 
School Program Office (CSP) is currently working with our data 
collection contractor to streamline all reporting requirements for CSP 
grantees through the development of a performance management platform. 
The platform entitled, the Charter Online Management Performance System 
(COMPS) will combine the current data collection tables, APR and FPR 
reporting requirements for the SE, CMO, and Developer grant programs 
and other business processes into one system that serves as a 
repository for grantee implementation data. Full development of COMPS 
is intended to be completed by December 2024.
    Regarding Recommendation 1.3 in ED-OIG/A2IL0034, The COMPS system 
will serve as a clearinghouse of implementation information for each 
grant. The system will allow for data to be examined by grant and 
program, to allow the CSP leadership and program officers to view the 
data at multiple levels, and to aggregate to see trends across the 
entire program.
    The FY25 budget request includes $16 million for national 
activities including actions such as monitoring and technical 
assistance that can, in part, address GAO and IG concerns. The request 
also includes appropriations language to ensure, consistent with 
statutory intent, that new awards do not support schools that are 
operated or managed by a for-profit education management organization 
or other similar for-profit entity, including through a contract with 
such an organization or entity. This language would not limit the 
ability of a newly funded charter school to contract with a for-profit 
entity for purposes other than managing or operating the school, such 
as providing food services or payroll services.
    Question. Research has found consistently that students of color 
and students growing up in poverty are disproportionately more likely 
to be taught by teachers who are inexperienced, less effective or 
teaching out-of-field. Recent research from the Education Trust on 
access to experienced teachers found Black and Latinx students are more 
likely to attend schools that have higher percentages of novice 
teachers. In 2015, Congress reauthorized the Elementary and Secondary 
Education Act, with a new requirement for States to submit plans to the 
Federal government describing how low-income and minority children 
enrolled in Title I-A schools are not served at disproportionate rates 
by ineffective, out- of- field, or inexperienced teachers, and what 
States will do to report on this data to the public.
    What steps will the Department take to ensure public reporting by 
all States include multiple years of publicly available and readily 
understandable data demonstrating progress in addressing any 
disproportionate rates of access to ineffective, inexperienced, or out-
of-field teachers by low-income and minority children in Title I, Part 
A schools and that all States have a plan and timeline for regular 
updates of these data that are frequent enough to demonstrate progress 
being made?
    Answer. The Department's monitoring of this requirement has 
consistently identified noncompliance with ESEA's requirement on 
reporting on ensuring low-income and minority children enrolled in 
Title I schools are not served at disproportionate rates by 
ineffective, out-of- field, or inexperienced teachers. The Department 
reviews compliance with this requirement in our annual consolidated 
monitoring of ESEA programs, which includes a comprehensive review of 
implementation of provisions under Title I, Part A (Title I) in a 
handful of State educational agencies each year. However, given the 
importance of this requirement and public reporting in general, in 
2023, the Department conducted Title I targeted monitoring of the 
public reporting requirements in ESEA sections 1111(h) and 
1111(g)(1)(B) of nine States. This included the requirement for all 
States to publicly report their progress in addressing any 
disproportionate rates of access to ineffective, out-of-field, and 
inexperienced teachers by low-income and minority children in Title I 
schools. To meet requirements, each State must have reported at least 
two data points to reflect progress in addressing any disproportionate 
rates of access for these students. The Department chose to focus on 
these public reporting requirements in 2023 Title I targeted monitoring 
because we identified a pattern of non-compliance in prior monitoring 
efforts. As expected, all nine States received findings because they 
had not reported all required components of ESEA section 1111(g)(1)(B). 
For example, some States reported data for some of the teacher 
categories, but not all. Some reported statewide data but did not 
specifically report on data for students in Title I, Part A schools. 
The Department issued a letter to each State identifying the areas of 
non-compliance and we will follow up with each State to ensure it 
satisfactorily addresses the issue in order for us to close the 
monitoring finding.
    Following our Title I targeted monitoring of public reporting 
requirements, the Department is working on guidance and technical 
assistance for all States related to this requirement. For example, the 
Department will release later this year a Dear Colleague Letter that 
provides recommendations to States on these requirements. The Dear 
Colleague Letter will recommend that States post this educator equity 
data on their State and local report card for transparency and ease of 
access for stakeholders and that they publish at least every 2 years 
their progress reducing gaps in educator equity. In addition, the 
Department is making technical updates to its non-regulatory guidance, 
``Opportunities and Responsibilities for State and Local Report Cards 
(March 2019)'' to reflect common questions and findings and provide 
examples of how the educator equity report requirements differ from the 
educator reporting requirements in ESEA section 1111(h). The Department 
will continue to provide technical assistance to States on this 
provision to States at national meetings.
    Question. The Department collects required information on 
professional qualifications of educators through its EDFacts 
collection. The Department notes in its Fiscal Year 2025 Congressional 
Justification that a number of States have not reported complete data, 
limiting the Department's ability to report on measures on the 
differences between the lowest and highest LEA poverty quartiles in the 
percentages of teachers with provision credentials or teaching out of 
field.
    Please describe the assistance provided and planned to be provided 
to support complete reporting of these important data?
    Answer. The Department agrees that having timely, complete, and 
accurate data across all ESEA programs, including on the professional 
qualifications of educators, is essential. The Department has taken a 
number of actions following the submission of incomplete, inaccurate, 
or missing data. The Department typically begins with a technical 
assistance call with any State that has missing data or significant 
data issues. If the issue persists for a second year, the Department 
typically issues a warning letter to the State. If the issue persists 
for a third year, the Department can place a grant condition on the 
associated ESEA grant that cannot be removed until the State is in 
compliance with the reporting requirement. Currently, one State has a 
grant condition related to this specific data requirement.
    Question. The Student Support and Academic Enrichment [SSAE] Grants 
program provides formula grants to States based on each State's share 
of title I--A grants, which then sub-grant to LEAs, to help support 
activities that provide students with a well-rounded education, ensure 
safe and supportive learning environments, and use technology to 
improve instruction.
    Please describe the Department's plans and timeline for reporting 
on State and local expenditures, outlined by specific authorized 
activities, and provide detailed information about the most common uses 
of funds, as well as information about how LEAs plan to evaluate the 
effectiveness of their SSAE-funded activities.
    Answer. The Department is conducting an implementation study of the 
Student Support and Academic Enrichment grant program (Title IV, Part 
A). The purpose of this study is to evaluate how this program is being 
carried out across the country, focusing on assessing how states and 
districts are using Title IV, Part A funds; how states and districts 
make decisions about how to use funds, and the use of evidenced-based 
programs and practices.
    Question. The Statewide Longitudinal Data System program supports 
competitive grants to State Educational Agencies to enable such 
agencies to develop, expand or improve Statewide, longitudinal data 
systems; improve data access and use that improves student outcomes; 
enable research and evidence-based policy-and decisionmaking; and build 
capacity in States to secure and protect data.
    Please describe FY23 and FY24 actions and FY25 plans, including in 
coordination with the Departments of Labor and Health and Human 
Services to provide guidance on and support the integration of data 
source systems across all levels of education, workforce and related 
areas, including implementation of data governance policies and 
enhancement of data privacy and security measures.
    Answer. The Department made 27 new Statewide Longitudinal Data 
Systems (SLDS) grant awards in FY23 and one in FY24. These grants are 
supporting State developments in Infrastructure and Interoperability 
(22), College and Career (3), State Policy Questions (3) and School 
Finance (2). The program has supported States and territories with data 
governance through data governance-related webinars and briefs to 
support States in governance activities. Topics have included but are 
not limited to: ``Partnering for Success: Key Elements of Effective 
ECIDS [Early Childhood Integrated Data System] Data Governance,'' 
``Improving Data Quality and Data Use Through the Critical Data Issues 
Process,'' ``Cross-Agency Data Sharing, Governance, and Practice,'' and 
``Sustaining Core Processes for Data Governance.''
    The program also focused on data security and privacy through 
webinars and/or briefs including ``Preparing for an SLDS Security 
Audit,'' ``Securing Your SLDS,'' and ``Overcoming Challenges of 
Reporting Publicly Available Data.'' The SLDS program collaborates 
closely with the Privacy Technical Assistance Center, which reviews and 
provides feedback on states' data and security and privacy 
documentation required as part of the SLDS grant application process. 
Updated documentation is reviewed again as part of grant monitoring, 
both in Annual Performance Reports and as part of site visits.
    Our technical assistance plan includes collaboration with the 
Preschool Development Grant Birth through Five (PDG B-5) program in 
HHS. Many of the states participating in our Early Childhood Integrated 
Data System working group also have or have had PDG B-5 grants, and 
program staff from the SLDS and PDG B-5 grant program meet to discuss 
grantee progress and needs. The SLDS team also coordinates with the 
Department of Labor's Workforce Data Quality Initiative (WDQI) grants. 
Representatives from the WDQI program have been included in 
conversations about how to link workforce data to kindergarten-grade 12 
(K-12) data accurately and securely, resulting in issue briefs such as 
``Sources and Linking Strategies for Employment Data.'' Most recently, 
the WDQI grant team participated in the SLDS Best Practices Conference 
in May and hosted a round table to discuss developments in workforce 
data, linking, and usage.
    We expect that these technical assistance and collaboration 
activities will continue through FY25, reflecting the needs in the 
field.
    Question. Please describe how current funding levels and those 
requested in the FY25 budget justification will adequately support the 
plans described in 8a.
    Answer. The President's budget requested $38.5 million for SLDS in 
FY 2025 and proposed a rescission of $10 million from unobligated FY 
2024 SLDS funds expected to be carried over into FY 2025. Due to the 
$10 million reduction to the FY 2024 SLDS appropriation we no longer 
propose a rescission of SLDS unobligated carryover (the $10 million 
SLDS reduction in FY 2024 fully offsets the proposed $10 million SLDS 
rescission from the FY 2025 request).
    If the program is level-funded at the FY 2024 level and the 
proposed rescission of $10 million of funds carried over from FY 2024 
is enacted, the program is projected to experience a $7 million 
shortfall in FY 2025. The IES appropriations bill language has 
historically provided the Department with the authority for IES to 
utilize up to $6 million from the SLDS appropriation SLDS to support 
activities to improve data coordination, quality, and use at the local, 
State, and national levels. The cost of supporting technical assistance 
to States and districts on these issues is approximately $8.3 million 
annually, including $1.8 million to support the Privacy Technical 
Assistance Center, which is administered through the Department's 
Student Privacy and Policy Office, $5 million to support the SLDS 
Education Data Technical Assistance Program, and $1.5 million to 
support the Common Education Data Standards. As the cost of supporting 
these activities increased, the National Center for Education 
Statistics (NCES) used funding from the Statistics budget to make up 
the difference and ensure continued support for these activities. NCES 
has paused or reduced the scope and frequency of several Statistics 
data collections recently due to funding issues, so continued support 
for these activities with Statistics funds is likely not sustainable 
beyond FY 2025.
    Additionally, the success of these technical assistance activities 
depends on States and territories continuing to receive SLDS grant 
funding. With a shortfall of $7 million, NCES would likely not be able 
to provide full continuation awards in FY 2025 to SLDS grantees.
    Question. The Uniform Grants Guidance 2024 Revision makes clear 
that recipients may use Federal funds for data costs including (but not 
limited to) the expenditures needed to gather, store, track, manage, 
analyze, disaggregate, secure, share, publish, or otherwise use data to 
administer or improve the program, such as data systems, personnel, 
data dashboards, cybersecurity, and related items. Data costs may also 
include direct or indirect costs associated with building integrated 
data systems--data systems that link individual-level data from 
multiple State and local government agencies for purposes of program 
improvement, management, research, and evaluation.
    Please describe the Department's plans to operationalize the 2024 
revision and assist grantees in the effective and appropriate use of 
funds for evaluation-related activities, including data infrastructure 
and integrated data systems?
    Answer. The Department will release resources and provide support 
to applicants and grantees relating to the 2024 revisions to the 
Uniform Guidance, including those clarifying the use of funds for data 
and evidence-building, in the coming months.
    Question. Mr. Secretary, please describe the Department's plans to 
work with the Department of Health and Human Services to encourage more 
states to expand Medicaid School-Based Services and allow them to be 
reimbursed by Medicaid for school-based physical and behavioral health 
services.
    What are the obstacles that you're hearing about, given that two-
thirds of States including Wisconsin have failed to utilize this option 
to pay for the mental health services eligible students need?
    Answer. Secretary Becerra and I have teamed up to improve the 
delivery of school-based health services through Medicaid and CHIP. 
Medicaid funding is a new frontier for our schools, allowing them to 
extend the reach of mental health programs to more students and provide 
on-site physical and mental health services. In 2022, schools received 
more than $6 billion in reimbursement for Medicaid school-based 
services. To date, a total of 13 states have expanded coverage to all 
Medicaid enrolled students by working with CMS on an approved state 
plan amendment.
    ED is working closely with HHS to increase the number of States and 
schools that offer school-based services for children enrolled in 
Medicaid and ensure that schools are equipped to bill Medicaid for 
eligible services. In the past year, our Departments released 
comprehensive guidance to make it easier for schools to bill Medicaid 
and launched the new Medicaid Technical Assistance Center to help 
schools leverage this critical funding. My team will continue to 
support the Technical Assistance Center and provide subject matter 
expertise to the SEAs and LEAs engaged with the Center.
    Since BSCA's 2022 passage, ED and CMS actively engaged with more 
than 40 States and 1,200 local education leaders (through convenings, 
webinars, meetings, and technical assistance) to raise awareness about 
the availability of Medicaid funds for crucial school-based health 
services and ensure Medicaid can reach and benefit more students. This 
includes 8 individual conversations I had with Governors and ED 
meetings with state health and education leaders in more than 20 
states. My team is actively engaged in helping states and districts 
address challenges they face, including concerns related to LEA 
capacity and resources, student privacy, and more, by sharing 
resources, providing technical assistance, and developing guidance to 
clarify laws and policies related to the delivery of school-based 
services.
    Secretary Becerra and I also issued a joint letter to governors, 
emphasizing how BSCA grant funding will make it easier to provide 
health services, including mental health supports, for millions of 
students across the nation. In June, CMS awarded $50M to 18 states to 
increase and improve access to school-based services through Medicaid. 
Our agencies will continue to collaborate and support these and all 
states to develop the infrastructure to access Medicaid dollars for 
school-based services.
    Additionally, the President's FY25 Budget requested funding for 3 
additional FTE to provide technical assistance to States and districts, 
develop guidance, and coordinate with CMS to support increased access 
to school-based services through Medicaid.
    Question. The FY25 Congressional Justification indicates the 
Institute of Education Sciences (IES) plans to allocate $14.041 million 
in FY24 and $15 million in FY25 to the What Works Clearinghouse.
    How will the additional resources planned to be allocated to the 
What Works Clearinghouse improve the timely and reliable delivery of 
information education stakeholders need to implement evidence-proven 
approaches to important questions of policy and practice?
    Answer. What Works Clearinghouse Practice Guides are routinely 
cited by educators, district and state education administrators, 
educator preparation program faculty, and providers of professional 
development to classroom teachers as one of IES's most actionable and 
important publications for driving evidence-based practices. As such, 
IES is prioritizing their production. Requested resources are expected 
to support the development of new What Works Clearinghouse practice 
guides in 8 areas: (1) behavioral interventions, (2) college and career 
readiness, (3) STEM, (4) English Language Arts and literacy, (5) 
student success in secondary school, (6) supporting young children with 
disabilities, (7) improving school attendance, and (8) improving 
educator recruitment, retention, performance, and well-being. In 2024 
and 2025, IES plans to release 2 new practice guides for educators each 
year. Starting in 2026, supported by the higher level of funding 
(starting in FY 2025), IES plans to release 3 new practice guides for 
educators annually.
    Question. How did IES solicit feedback from the educators and other 
key stakeholders in identifying focal domains for completed systematic 
reviews?
    Answer. IES identified topics by meeting with organizations 
representing educators in various content areas such as mathematics 
education, teacher preparation, and special education. IES also 
leveraged the need-sensing activities of the Regional Educational 
Laboratories and formed panels of practitioners and researchers with 
relevant content expertise to inform and guide systematic reviews.
    Question. What policies and processes will it adopt going forward 
for stakeholder engagement on such reviews and increased awareness and 
use of the clearinghouse?
    Answer. IES plans to support broader, more frequent, and more 
systematic engagement with stakeholders to identify high-priority 
topics for future reviews, publications, and products that could 
strengthen evidence-based classroom practice and improve student 
outcomes. IES also plans to deepen its capacity to constantly monitor 
the supply of existing education research to detect innovative 
policies, programs, and practices more rapidly. Between FY 2025 and FY 
2028, IES intends to launch six ``Evidence Hub'' contracts to support 
this work in the following broad domains: (1) English Language Arts and 
literacy in K-12 education; (2) supporting K-12 student success and 
well-being; (3) K-12 science, technology, engineering, and mathematics 
(STEM) education; (4) postsecondary and adult education; (5) preschool 
and pre-kindergarten education; and (6) teacher policies and school 
systems. IES will also partner with stakeholders to disseminate 
existing practice guide resources.
    Question. According to the Department's FY25 Congressional 
Justifications, the Administration is requesting a $15 million 
rescission in the FY24 funding appropriated for the RELs. The 
Justifications state that this rescission ``As a significant amount of 
carryover funding has built up over time, a $15 million rescission 
would not have an impact on planned continuation awards.'' However, The 
FY24 appropriations act reduced funding for the RELs by $5 million.
    Given that fact, is it still the Administration's position that 
significant carryover has built up and the $15 million rescission would 
not have an impact on planned continuation awards?
    Answer. The President's budget requested $58.7 million for the RELs 
in FY 2025 and proposed a rescission of $15 million from unobligated FY 
2024 RELs funds expected to be carried over into FY 2025.
    Given that, in FY 2024, the REL Program was funded at $53.7 million 
instead of the $58.7 million requested by the President for FY 2024, a 
$15 million recission of FY 2024 carryover funds would impact planned 
continuation awards and likely result in a reduction of direct REL 
supports to states, districts, schools, and students.
    IES staff have carefully considered potential measures to spare 
direct REL services from being discontinued while fulfilling statutory 
requirements related to independent peer review of research and 
providing an independent evaluation of each of the regional 
laboratories. Since we submitted an FY 2024 operating plan to the 
Appropriations Committees, we have determined that we can scale back 
the REL evaluation and still meet the statutory requirement, which 
could save as much as $1 million in FY 2024 and FY 2025. However, even 
with those savings, we have concluded that it is not possible for the 
program to sustain a $15 million recission combined with the FY 2024 
cut without reducing the amount available for the RELs.
    It is also important to stress that the strategic use of carryover 
funds allows IES to provide uninterrupted funding for the REL contracts 
during fiscal years in which multiple short continuing resolutions are 
enacted. Strategic use of carryover funding allows IES to gradually 
build up sufficient funding during the 5-year contract award period to 
ensure that sufficient funding is available during the final year of 
the contracts to continue support for REL activities while also meeting 
Federal procurement requirements for the availability of funds for the 
next cycle of awards.
    Question. All of the funds appropriated for the RELs are used for 
the contracts for the RELs, and associated activities like web 
development and evaluation.
    Isn't it the case that a $15 million rescission in FY24 funding 
would result in a reduction in the amounts that the RELs receive 
through their contracts and in the activities they can carry out during 
FY24 or FY25 or both?
    Answer. When combined with the reduction of $5 million in the 
enacted FY 2024 appropriation for the REL program, a rescission of $15 
million in unobligated funds carried over from FY 2024 to FY 2025 would 
reduce the amount available for REL contracts in FY 2025 by 
approximately $700,000 if the President's budget request of $58.7 
million in FY 2025 is not enacted.
    Question. Please provide a table that displays the amount of 
funding that will go into the REL contacts by individual REL, into web 
development, into evaluation, and into any other activities in FY 2024, 
with and without a rescission of $15 million.
    Answer. As requested, we have provided a table showing the amount 
of funding each REL contract will receive in FY 2024. However, as the 
proposed rescission would apply to any unobligated funds carried over 
from FY 2024 to FY 2025, effects would not be felt until FY 2025.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                          FY 2024 Amount
            Regional Educational Laboratories                   ($)
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Regional Educational Laboratory West....................       5,699,896
Regional Educational Laboratory Northwest...............       4,746,534
Regional Educational Laboratory Midwest.................       5,800,000
Regional Educational Laboratory Appalachia..............       4,787,391
Regional Educational Laboratory Mid-Atlantic............       4,785,540
Regional Educational Laboratory Central.................       4,699,484
Regional Educational Laboratory Northeast & Islands.....       5,451,572
Regional Educational Laboratory Pacific.................       4,702,259
Regional Educational Laboratory Southeast...............       5,963,713
Regional Educational Laboratory Southwest...............       5,500,000
Associated Regional Educational Laboratory Program
 Activities:
Evaluation of the Regional Educational Laboratory              1,000,000
 program................................................
Peer Review of Regional Educational Laboratory products.       2,503,200
Regional Educational Laboratory Website.................         883,558
Technical and Administrative Support for the Regional            331,354
 Educational Laboratory program.........................
Contractor Security Clearance Support...................          90,106
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    Those effects would be realized in FY 2025 through the end of the 
current REL contract awards. As noted in our response to the previous 
question, we would have a shortfall of approximately $700,000 for REL 
contracts in FY 2025, even after IES reduced planned amounts for 
associated activities in FYs 2024 and 2025. REL contract activities are 
not directed by IES, but rather proposed by the RELs based on needs 
identified by stakeholders at the State and local level. For this 
reason. IES cannot provide estimates of the amount of funding that 
would be available in FY 2025 for each REL contract with and without a 
rescission prior to consulting with the RELs. IES cannot determine for 
each REL what work would be stopped or otherwise curtailed should 
funding levels decrease. The direct technical assistance and applied 
research supports RELs provide States, districts, and schools are 
proposed by each REL as part of a 5-year plan of work. As such, they 
represent multi-year commitments to design, launch, sustain, and 
evaluate programs and services, often with complex dependencies.
    For example, REL Southeast's Mississippi Adolescent Literacy 
Partnership seeks to ensure Mississippi educators beyond grade 3 can 
integrate evidence-based literacy strategies into a wide range of 
academic courses. The partnership began with REL Southeast developing 
and piloting a series of trainings for grade 6-12 content area leaders 
in partner districts to support classroom implementation of the 
evidence-based recommendations of two literacy-focused WWC Practice 
Guides. Data collected during these pilot trainings will inform the 
development of a year-long professional learning resource that will be 
scaled up statewide in 2025 and 2026. Were REL program funding to be 
reduced in, those trainings for educators would be at risk of being 
cut, and the benefits of the direct supports REL Southeast provided to 
their three partner districts would not be shared across the State.
    As noted above, the combined effects of reduced appropriations, 
particularly if sustained in FYs 2025-2027, and the proposed rescission 
would also affect IES ability to carry over REL funds to avoid 
disruption to funding during prolonged continuing resolutions and 
ensure sufficient funding is available to fulfill procurement 
requirements for the next REL contract cycle while also supporting REL 
activities in the final year of this cycle.
    Question. Please describe how additional resources requested for 
IES program administration would support duties of the Evaluation 
Officer and support implementation of Title I of the Foundations for 
Evidence-based Policymaking Act.
    Answer. Optimal staffing of program evaluation functions, as 
described in Title I of the Evidence Act, leverages the subject matter 
and methodological expertise of senior staff (GS- 14/15) to 
conceptualize, design, and oversee high-quality, policy-relevant 
evaluations while delegating day-to-day responsibility for their 
execution to qualified junior staff (GS-12/13). In addition to using 
Program Administration funds more efficiently, this approach promotes 
thoughtful succession planning and brings new, innovative talent into 
IES. The Evaluation Officer will use the additional resources requested 
for IES Program Administration in FY25 to hire 2 full-time equivalent 
(FTE) employees at the GS-12/13 level, freeing existing senior staff 
for high-leverage work including but not limited to the design of 
rigorous evaluations of programs authorized by the Higher Education Act 
of 1965, as amended.
    Question. Please provide a table and narrative showing FTE and 
budget amounts supported by IES program administration for fiscal years 
2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025 for each of IES's centers.
    Answer.

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              OFFICE                  SCIENCE       POLICY       NCSER         NCES         NCER         NCEE
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FY 22
FTE...............................            8           14            8           91           18           25
Budgeted Amount...................   $1,128,145   $1,899,766   $1,020,960  $12,967,901   $2,591,591   $3,644,552
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FY23
FTE...............................            8           15            7           93           17           25
Budgeted Amount...................    1,584,115    2,945,237    1,261,894   18,560,067    3,594,366    5,139,993
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FY24
FTE...............................            8           13            8           97           19           30
Budgeted Amount...................    1,718,348    2,737,262    1,709,167   20,562,344    4,143,509    6,472,793
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FY25
FTE...............................           12           12           10          106           21           38
Budgeted Amount...................    2,602,692    2,602,692    2,168,910   22,990,446    4,554,711    8,241,858
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    Question. The Department's FY25 Congressional Justification states 
``Beginning in fiscal year 2024, the Department will be undertaking a 
comprehensive review of all technical assistance offerings, including 
those offered under this [Comprehensive Centers] program, for reach and 
effectiveness for SEAs, LEAs, and schools.''
    Please describe this review process and scope, including the 
quantitative and qualitative information to be used to assess the 
quality and quantity of technical assistance services and products 
offered; the quantitative and qualitative information to be used to 
assess recipient usage of technical assistance services and products; 
and the quantitative and qualitative information to be used to assess 
the impact of technical assistance services and products on recipient 
organizational change and improved capacity, SEA and LEA policy 
changes, including those needed to address applicable requirements of 
Federal law, and SEA and LEA practice change, including those needed to 
address applicable requirements of Federal law.
    Answer. The Department is developing a thoughtful, Department-wide 
approach to the review of technical assistance activities to best 
support the education community. We are considering how best to measure 
the usage and value of technical assistance resources. As part of this 
effort, we will review the topic areas covered under current 
investments to identify lessons learned and opportunities to best serve 
those who can and could benefit from technical assistance. We will 
discuss project data and program performance measures and available 
customer feedback, among other sources of information as we undergo our 
review.
    Question. Please provide the amount of funding allocated to 
individual regional content centers and in total in FY23 at the 
appropriation level of $55,000,000 and the amount of funding expected 
to be allocated to individual regional content centers in FY25 at the 
request level of $50,000,000. Please describe the impact of this 
funding reduction on the services and products that the regional 
content centers are able to provide to SEAs, LEAs, and schools.
    Answer. Fiscal Year 2023 was the final year in the previous 
Comprehensive Centers competition and included 19 Regional Centers and 
1 National Center. There was also a single content center funded in FY 
2021 that is on a separate 5-year track. For FY 2023, the total amount 
awarded to Regional Centers was $45,387,357. The individual amounts to 
Regional Centers were as follows:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                          FY 2023 Amount
                    Regional Centers                            ($)
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Region 1 (ME, MA, NH, VT)...............................       1,000,000
Region 2 (CT, NY, RI)...................................       2,360,643
Region 3 (PR, USVI).....................................       1,000,000
Region 4 (DE, DC, MD, NJ, PA)...........................       2,557,246
Region 5 (KY, TN, VA, WV)...............................       2,444,033
Region 6 (GA, NC, SC)...................................       3,356,125
Region 7 (AL, FL, MS)...................................       3,378,769
Region 8 (IN, MI, OH)...................................       3,212,089
Region 9 (IL, IA).......................................       1,722,122
Region 10 (MN, WI)......................................       1,302,719
Region 11 (NE, ND, SD, WY)..............................       1,243,525
Region 12 (CO, KS, MO)..................................       1,963,421
Region 13 (BIE, NM, OK).................................       1,647,431
Region 14 (AR, LA, TX)..................................       5,413,464
Region 15 (AZ, CA, NV, UT)..............................       6,472,657
Region 16 (AK, OR, WA)..................................       3,313,113
Region 17 (ID, MT)......................................       1,000,000
Region 18 (FSM, GU, CNMI, PW)...........................       1,000,000
Region 19 (AS, HI, RMI).................................       1,000,000
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    For Fiscal Year 2025, the estimated amount available for Regional 
Centers at the budget request level is $37,500,000. This amount will be 
for continuation awards to 14 Regional Centers. The estimated awards 
for Regional Centers in Fiscal Year 2025 will range from $1,000,000 to 
$5,300,000. The remaining funds will be for continuation awards for a 
National Center and five Content Centers. The FY 2024 appropriation for 
Comprehensive Centers was $50,000,000.
    As a result of the reduction in funding in the Fiscal Year 2024 
appropriation as well as ED's decision to fund four new Content Centers 
in the new competition, the Regional Centers will receive a reduced 
share of total program funds as well as reduced individual amounts 
which will impact their capacity to provide services.
    Question. Please describe the Department's key actions completed 
and plans for ensuring States and school districts comply with ESSA's 
policy requiring the reporting of actual personnel and non-personnel 
expenditures, disaggregated by Federal, state and local source of funds 
for each school and school district and such information is reliable 
and made available to the public in an accessible and understandable 
manner.
    Answer. The Department is taking several steps to ensure that SEAs 
meet the report card requirements in ESEA section 1111(h), including 
the requirement to post per pupil expenditures that include actual 
personnel and non-personnel expenditures, disaggregated by Federal, 
State, and local source of funds for each school and school district 
and that such information is made available to the public in an 
accessible and understandable manner.
    For each of the past 5 years, the Department has conducted an 
annual review in January of each State's website to check whether the 
State has posted State and local report cards. Each year we review a 
subset of the requirements. The Department selects different elements 
each year; due to the importance of the per-pupil expenditure 
information (as well as the fact that this was a new requirement in the 
latest reauthorization of the ESEA), the Department has reviewed for 
this information each of the past 5 years. Each year, we follow up with 
the State if it is missing any of the elements that we have reviewed, 
including sending a letter that requires each State to address the 
issue in a timely manner, until the State shows evidence that the 
information has been publicly reported on State and local report cards.
    In addition, in summer of 2023, the Department conducted Title I 
targeted monitoring of nine States of all public reporting requirements 
in Title I, Part A including all requirements in ESEA section 1111(h) 
and the public reporting requirement on disproportionate rates of 
access to ineffective, out-of-field, or inexperienced teachers for low-
income and minority students in Title I, Part A schools. The Department 
issued corrective action letters to each State that was missing any 
report card requirements; these letters are available at https://
oese.ed.gov/offices/office-of-formula-grants/school-support-and-
accountability/key- documents/(note: filtering the year for 2023 will 
help you identify these letters). Following its Title I targeted 
monitoring of public reporting requirements, the Department is drafting 
a Dear Colleague Letter that provides recommendations to States on 
these requirements; the Department is also making technical updates to 
its non-regulatory guidance document, ``Opportunities and 
Responsibilities for State and Local Report Cards (March 2019)'' to 
reflect common questions and findings. Finally, the Department 
continues to provide technical assistance to States on this provision 
at national meetings. Most recently, at the National Association of 
ESEA State Program Administrators meeting, the Department conducted a 
professional development session that reviewed key findings from the 
Title I targeted monitoring across States and hosted a panel with two 
States that have strong report cards.
    In addition, a complete review of State and local report cards is 
included in the Department's Title I, Part A consolidated monitoring, 
which we conduct for four States each year. The full Title I monitoring 
protocols can be found at: https://oese.ed.gov/offices/office-of-
formula- grants/school-support-and-accountability/performance-review/. 
An important aspect of our consolidated monitoring is a thorough 
review, for each State monitored in a particular year, of the State's 
report card to ensure that it includes all required elements.
    Question. How many competitive grant programs will include an 
evidence priority in fiscal years 2024 and 2025? For programs in which 
the evidence requirement of demonstrates a rationale, how is the 
Department supporting ongoing efforts of grantees to evaluate the 
effects of such activities, interventions or strategies?
    Answer. In fiscal year 2024, the Department is running 30 grant 
competitions that include an evidence priority. The Department is still 
in the process of planning FY 2025 competitions.
    The Department supports grantee evaluation through regular contact 
and monitoring activities. Additionally, the Department uses portions 
of national activities funding for technical assistance contracts that 
assist grantees in the implementation of their grants including in 
evaluation activities, as applicable.
    Question. Please also describe the ways in which the Department is 
supporting or plans to support evidence building and use in ESEA 
formula grant programs.
    Answer. The Department released updated guidance to support state 
and local use of evidence-based approaches to supporting teaching and 
learning, including for ESEA formula programs. The guidance, Non-
Regulatory Guidance: Using Evidence to Strengthen Education Investments 
(PDF), provides information on using and building evidence along a 
cycle that includes identifying local needs, selecting relevant and 
evidence-based approaches, planning for implementation, implementing, 
examining and reflecting. The Department widely disseminates this 
guidance to the field and highlights it further during formula grant 
director convenings. In addition, IES promotes use of evidence at 
various formula grant director convenings, explains how the field can 
identify evidence-based approaches on the IES website, and aligns its 
resources and studies with the evidence levels in the ESEA.
    Question. Please provide an update on how the Department is using 
the funding Congress provided for assessment development in fiscal year 
2021, 2022 and 2023 to encourage states to improve their statewide 
assessments to provide more timely and relevant data to educators and 
stakeholders that can improve the timely use of assessment data needed 
to improve teaching and learning and accountability for high quality 
educational opportunities for all students.
    Answer. In September 2022, the Department made 11 awards totaling 
over $29 million to SEAs under the Competitive Grants for State 
Assessments (CGSA) program with FY2021 and FY2022 funds appropriated 
for this program. The 2022 CGSA competition focused on two priorities 
as directed by Congress: assessments based upon multiple measures and 
comprehensive assessments based on competency-based educational 
frameworks. The focus of the program is on improving State assessment 
systems and we hope these projects will provide models not only for 
these 11 States but for all States. (Abstracts for these 11 awards are 
available at https://oese.ed.gov/files/2022/08/CGSA-2022-
Abstracts.pdf.)
    In March 2024, the Department announced a new CGSA competition for 
FY 23 funds (approximately $19 million). The 2024 competition once 
again includes a priority for assessments based upon multiple measures 
or comprehensive assessments based on competency- based educational 
frameworks. This competition also includes a priority for funds for 
SEAs planning to submit an application under the Innovative Assessment 
Demonstration Authority authorized in ESEA section 1204. The Department 
expects to make these awards by September 2024. The announcement for 
the current CGSA competition can be viewed at https://
www.Federalregister.gov/d/2024-04972.
    Question. Please describe the challenges Education is hearing about 
that led to the FY25 budget proposal to increase the amount of funds 
States may reserve for administration purposes under section 1004 of 
the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA).
    Answer. The current cap has been in place since the 2001 
reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (No Child 
Left Behind) and has not been adjusted to account for inflation or the 
additional demands that have been placed on State educational agencies 
(SEAs) in the intervening 23 years. The current threshold was first 
exceeded in FY 2008 so it has been almost two decades since SEAs have 
been able to reserve a full 1 percent of their allocations for 
administration. During meetings with the Department, SEAs have shared 
that the current administrative cap limits them from:
  --Having sufficient resources to conduct extensive oversight or 
        provide technical assistance to LEAs and schools to ensure 
        compliance with all ESEA requirements.
  --Attracting the most qualified staff to administer Title I programs, 
        including to:
    --Provide robust technical assistance to subgrantees
    --Effectively monitor subgrantees
    --Implement complex accountability systems
    --Support LEAs' implementation of equitable services
    --Allocate funds consistent with requirements
    --Collect and report extensive data, including publicly reporting 
            data on State and local report cards and to the Department 
            through EDFacts
  --Developing their staff through high-quality professional 
        development opportunities.
  --Retaining qualified staff (to the detriment of students served by 
        Title I programs some very strong State staff have left their 
        positions in recent years.)
    The Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) has also shared 
similar concerns with the Department. The National Association of ESSA 
State Program Administrators (NAESPA) has recently instituted a new 
director training series to provide support for new SEA staff due to 
the very large number of new staff in SEAs across the country. The lack 
of experienced SEA staff means more technical assistance must be 
focused on the basics of administering the grant programs and less time 
and attention is able to be spent on helping districts and schools use 
their Federal funds in new and innovative ways to support needed school 
reforms.
    Question. How would the proposal further implementation of 
accountability requirements of the law?
    Answer. The proposal would make available additional resources for 
SEAs to help implement Title I, Part A requirements, including 
accountability reporting, and school improvement requirements; conduct 
oversight of LEAs; and provide additional technical assistance. Funds 
would help expand the capacity of SEAs to implement the complex 
accountability system required to meaningfully differentiate and 
identify comprehensive support and improvement (CSI) schools; targeted 
support and improvement (TSI) schools; and additional targeted support 
and improvement (ATSI) schools, by providing additional resources to 
hire, train, and retain staff; monitor LEA implementation of program 
requirements; collect, analyze, review data on a timely basis; and 
provide support and technical assistance to LEAs.
    Question. How does the National Center on Improving Literacy 
support improved services for the significantly higher share of 
students with disabilities, including the likely higher share with 
dyslexia, served through the Title I-D neglected and delinquent 
program?
    Please describe completed actions and plans to improve transition 
and re-entry supports for students served in this program.
    Answer. The National Center on Improving Literacy (NCIL) develops 
products and services to increase (1) access to, and use of, evidence-
based approaches to screen, identify, and teach students with literacy-
related disabilities, including dyslexia and (2) individual and 
organizational capacity to assess students' literacy-related skill, 
identify students with disabilities or those at risk of disabilities, 
and fully implement evidence-based literacy programs and professional 
development. NCIL does not target students served by the Title I-D 
neglected and delinquent program; however, the products and services 
are appropriate for a variety of students including those served 
through the Title I-D neglected and delinquent program.
    Question. The FY25 Congressional Justification states that the 
request for Program Administration includes additional resources to 
establish the position of Chief Artificial Intelligence Officer with 
one supporting staff. Education has named its Deputy Chief Information 
Officer, Gary Stevens, to the position as of May 2024.
    Please elaborate on how much funding is being requested in total 
and for each of the Chief AI Officer and supporting staff position.
    Answer. A total of $415,000 is being requested for two positions 
(SES $224,000 & GS- 15 $191,000).
    Question. Does Education intend to hire an additional person to 
fill the Chief AI Officer position and relieve the Chief Technology 
Officer of the additional AI responsibilities?
    Answer. Yes, ED intends to hire a dedicated CAIO/Digital Services 
lead and a Sr. Technologist experienced in AI Management and the 
Solutioning of AI technologies and Digital Services.
    Question. What key activities does Education plan to initiate and/
or complete in FY24?
    Answer. In alignment with the Executive Order 14110, ED has 
initiated and is working to:
  --Complete phases 1 & 2 for the Development and delivery of an 
        Enterprise Technology Platform to support AI technology 
        development and insertion.
  --Continue the maturity of AI governance through the establishment of 
        working groups and evaluation boards.
  --Finalize the Department's AI policy.
  --Complete the development of process guidance to administer 
        Generative AI (GenAI) request.
  --Collaborate with our business owners on the development of AI use-
        cases.
  --Continue the evaluation of existing AI systems for compliance with 
        EO principles.
  --Continue to define needs to establish a qualified Red Team
  --Partner with the National Science Foundation on AI Data inventories 
        for shared services.
    Question. What would the funding level identified in 26(a) enable 
Education to initiate and/or complete in FY25?
    Answer. In 2025, the Department will utilize these funds to 
complete the establishment of an AI program to meet the requirements of 
Executive Orders 14110 and 13960--to promote the safe, secure, and 
trustworthy development and use of Artificial Intelligence. We plan to 
focus on targeting resources to establish and implement policies, 
practices, and plans to acquire AI technologies and continue to build 
out the necessary infrastructure to house and manage such technologies 
consistent with EO requirements and OMB mandates. We will also leverage 
resources to train and upskill our workforce to bolster institutional 
competencies and capabilities to ensure we are postured to address AI 
vulnerabilities and threats to the mission. We are looking to acquire 
resources to complete the Red Team.
    Question. When will the Department launch the public comment period 
for the 2025- 26 FAFSA?
    Answer. To ensure a smooth user experience during the upcoming 
FAFSA cycle, the 2025-26 FAFSA form will remain consistent with the 
2024-25 form. As a result, and similar to previous years when we have 
not had major shifts in functionality, the 2025-26 form will not be 
made available for public comment. However, we will continue to focus 
our efforts on improving the user experience for students, families, 
and our partners and will collect feedback to inform our efforts 
through a series of listening sessions and a Request for Information 
(RFI) this summer to solicit feedback from those not able to attend the 
sessions.
    The Department will request specific feedback on ways to improve 
the help text on the form, student tip sheets, or other direct 
communication to students to ensure students can successfully complete 
and submit the form. The Department will also request feedback from 
financial aid administrators, counselors and others on ways the 
Department can provide additional support to them in their work. The 
listening sessions and RFI will also lead to the development of a new 
Better FAFSA Better Future Roadmap--to be released in late summer--that 
will outline new tools the Department is making available, such as 
additional trainings, webinars, counselor guides, and student tip 
sheets.
    Question. When will the Department post 2022-23 and 2023-24 FAFSA 
Data by Demographic Characteristics on the FSA Data Center?
    Answer. The Department has posted the 2022-23 FAFSA Data by 
Demographic Characteristics on the FSA Data Center, available here. 
This report is posted approximately 6-8 months after the end of a FAFSA 
cycle. As the 2023-2024 FAFSA application cycle does not end until June 
2024, this report is expected to be posted in early 2025.
    Question. When does the Department anticipate that all data 
resulting from 2025-26 FAFSA submissions, including the Institutional 
Student Information Records (ISIRs), will begin flowing to institutions 
once the 2025-26 FAFSA launches? Please provide an estimated number of 
days after the public availability of the 2025-2026 FAFSA.
    Answer. We have heard from students, families, institutions, 
states, and those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA 
form to launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal 
and toward launching other functionality to ensure students receive 
timely aid offers for the 2025-26 award year as quickly as possible.
    Question. Please provide all relevant information on the scope of 
the consumer or user testing that was conducted for 2024-2025 FAFSA 
cycle, including but not limited to:
      the number of users who participated in consumer testing;
      how users were selected for consumer testing;
      the applicable numbers of users who met the categories described 
        in the Higher Education Act, such as prospective first-
        generation college students, representatives of students 
        (including low-income students, English learners, first-
        generation college students, adult students, veterans, 
        servicemembers, and prospective students), and students' 
        families (including low-income families, families with English 
        learners, families with first-generation college students, and 
        families with prospective students;
      the specific dates when such consumer testing was conducted; 28e. 
        if and how users were compensated for such testing;
      which contractors involved were involved in any aspect of 
        consumer testing, and the scope of their contract;
      which Federal agencies and offices were involved in providing 
        input or receiving the results of such testing; and
      any other applicable details related to the consumer testing 
        process.
    Answer. To enhance the 2024-25 FAFSA form experience, Federal 
Student Aid (FSA) and its Office of Student Experience and Aid Delivery 
have conducted 21 comprehensive user experience research studies to 
date with over 300 participants. This consumer testing, which began in 
March 2022,\1\ included 1:1 usability testing observing participants 
engaging with early designs before development, as well as usability 
testing once the form went live in late December 2023. The participant 
selection was aligned to the FAFSA Simplification Act's consumer 
testing requirement and outreach to required audiences. In addition, 
FSA ensured participants were recruited from a wide audience, including 
students, parents, financial aid advisors, and high school counselors. 
Participants were also drawn from various specialized groups, such as 
first-generation college students, English learners, veterans, service 
members, low-income families (earning $50,000 and below), incarcerated 
students, adult students over the age of 25, homeless students, and 
others. Students and parents were recruited from all over the United 
States and sessions were predominantly held online via video 
conference.
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    \1\ Several user experience research activities were completed for 
the 2023-24 FAFSA form, which included implementing certain elements of 
the FAFSA Simplification Act. That testing began in November of 2021.
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    The testing methodologies were extensive, covering roles and 
taxonomy surveys, stakeholder interviews, cognitive walk-throughs, card 
sorting exercises, customer feedback surveys, email content testing, 
and co-creation workshops. This approach enabled a detailed evaluation 
of various elements of the application system, including the main form, 
embedded questions, dashboard, summary page, my activity feature, the 
FAFSA Submission Summary, and the overall user experience.
    The FSA design team within SEAD collaborated with various teams 
within FSA to manage and deliver the FAFSA user experience research. 
Individual studies were managed by FSA's vendor, Accenture Federal 
Services (AFS). Participants were recruited from a third-party 
recruitment platform along with partner organizations and school 
contacts to assemble the participant groups. AFS compensated each 
participant an average of $50 for their valuable input. This meticulous 
approach ensured that the insights obtained were thorough and aligned 
with FSA's broader objectives to optimize the application process to 
meet the needs of the millions of students and parents who interact 
with the FAFSA form.
    Question. When the 2025-2026 FAFSA launches, will all contributors 
who do not have a Social Security Number (SSN) be able to create an FSA 
ID and fill out the form at the same time as contributors and 
applicants who do have an SSN?
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. The Department created an incarcerated student 
application for the 2024-2025 FAFSA cycle. Does the Department 
acknowledge that students who are incarcerated, or whose parent(s) are 
incarcerated, can fill out a FAFSA online as a provisionally 
independent student using FAFSA On the Web?
    Answer. An applicant or contributor who is incarcerated can 
complete an application online if they have access to the Internet and 
the ability to complete the necessary multi-factor authentication. 
These applicants can be considered for all of the same professional 
judgment reviews as any other student. Applicants can proceed through 
the form as a provisional independent student but will be subject to 
financial aid administrator review to confirm that status.
    Question. Please describe the Department's plans to help applicants 
accurately fill out the FAFSA questions related to family size, such as 
divorce, marriage, death, births, or older siblings no longer living at 
home, and especially circumstances where family size changes may 
increase students' eligibility for aid.
    Answer. Data to support the determination of family size are 
provided directly via the IRS FA-DDX. If an applicant needs to manually 
enter family size or update the reported family size due to a change in 
circumstances, the Department provides help to applicants via the FAFSA 
application as well as separate help pages including, https://
studentaid.gov/2425/help/family-size, https://studentaid.gov/2425/help/
family-size-changed, and https://studentaid.gov/2425/help/parent-
family-size.
    Question. Under Section 483 (a)(2)(B)(ii)(XVII) of the Higher 
Education Act (HEA), the Secretary is authorized to add ``any other 
means-tested program determined by the Secretary to be appropriate'' to 
the list of information to be considered before determining eligibility 
for Federal financial aid. Therefore, will the Department consider 
adding the following means-tested programs to the list of benefits on 
the 2025-2026 FAFSA, please answer yes or no and provide a brief 
rationale:
      Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
      Unemployment Insurance (UI)
      Child Tax Credit (CTC)
      American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC) and/or Lifetime Learning 
        Credit (LLC)
    Answer. Yes, the Department will consider adding other means-tested 
benefits, such as the ones listed, to future releases of the FAFSA 
form.
    Question. Please describe the Departments views on adding an 
affirmative consent ``check box'' to the 2025-2026 FAFSA to provide 
applicants with the option to share their FAFSA information with 
applicable agencies that handle applications for means-tested Federal 
benefit programs, in accordance with Section 483(a)(2)(D)(ii) of the 
Higher Education Act.
    Answer. The Department is assessing when the consent box can be 
added to the FAFSA form, including planning for both adding it to the 
development cycle and computer matching agreements with other Federal 
agencies to share the data once it is collected.
    Question. Please indicate whether the Department currently 
maintains data-sharing Agreements under Section 483(c)(3) of the Higher 
Education Act for the purpose of connecting students to means-tested 
benefits, or the estimated timeline for establishing any such data-
sharing agreements, with the following agencies:
      Treasury
      Labor
      Health and Human Services 42d. Agriculture
      Housing and Urban Development 42f. Commerce
      Veterans Affairs; and 42h. Interior
    Answer. The Department does not currently have data sharing 
agreements with these agencies for the purposes under 483(c)(3). We are 
assessing when these agreements can be established.
    Question. When does the Department anticipate updating GEN-22-02 
guidance for institutions of higher education regarding the use of 
FAFSA data to connect students to public and tax benefit programs?
    Answer. The Department will be issuing updated guidance in the 
coming weeks.
    Question. Please describe the Department's efforts to comply with 
the requirements of Section 483(b)(1) of the Higher Education Act 
regarding the disclosure, in a consumer-tested format, of information 
to students regarding potential adjustments of their financial aid 
eligibility, including examples of such communications provided 
directly to students, and how such communications were tested with 
consumers.
    Answer. General usability testing of the application form pages was 
conducted in October 2022. This testing included the interstitial pages 
that display at the beginning of every section of the FAFSA form.
    The interstitial page that displays at the beginning of each 
Finances section (student's, parent's, student spouse's and parent 
spouse's) includes a general overview of the information we'll collect 
in that section. Almost all usability study participants mentioned 
appreciating the explanation of why the questions are asked. The text 
on the (student version of the) page says: ``The FAFSA form helps 
determine your ability to pay for school. In this section, we ask about 
your financial information.'' This is followed by the hyperlink: ``What 
if you have special financial circumstances?'' (which links to https://
studentaid.gov/help/reporting-special- financial-circumstances). The 
linked help topic provides some examples of special circumstances as 
well as guidance to submit the FAFSA form as instructed and then reach 
out to the financial aid office.
    Question. In October 2023, the Department issued new 
``administrative capability'' regulations which, among other things, 
strengthen financial aid communications with students by requiring 
institutions to include the institution's cost of attendance, the 
source and type of aid offered, whether aid must be earned or repaid, 
the net price, and deadlines for accepting, declining, or adjusting 
award amounts on their financial aid offers. Please provide the 
following information:
    Whether these new requirements are applicable to award offers being 
sent to students now, for award year 2024-2025;
    Answer. New provisions in 34 CFR 668.16(h) take effect on July 1, 
2024. Financial aid counseling and communications occurring prior to 
that date are not subject to the new rule, without regard to the award 
year to which they pertain, but will be evaluated under existing 
regulations. In determining (as part of an overall assessment of 
administrative capability) whether an institution's counseling and 
financial aid communications advise students and families to accept the 
most beneficial types of financial assistance available to them and 
include the information stipulated in new 34 CFR 668.16(h), we will 
look at financial aid counseling and communications that occur on or 
after July 1, 2024, again without specific regard to award year.
    Question. If the answer to (45a) is no, will the requirements be in 
place for the 2025-2026 award year?
    Answer. As discussed above, compliance with the new regulations is 
not keyed to the award year for which the student will receive Title IV 
assistance. Financial aid counseling and communications to a student 
who enrolled on say August 1, 2024 (having occurred after July 1, 2024) 
would be subject to evaluation under the new rule though that student's 
initial period of enrollment would be during the 2024-2025 award year.
    Question. How the Department plans to enforce the provisions added 
to Sec. 668.16
    Answer. Enforcement of this provision will be through the program 
review and annual compliance audit functions.
    Question. Whether the Department plans to issue any additional 
guidance or best practices related to this provision, beyond the 
College Financing Plan.
    Answer. Currently, the Department has no plans to issue further 
guidance on this rule. We believe the regulatory language is clear and 
that schools are well familiar with the terms and practices referenced 
therein. However, we will monitor compliance with the new rule as well 
as requests for technical assistance to determine if additional 
guidance is needed.
    Question. Accrediting agencies and state authorizers make up 
critical aspects of the program integrity triad and are expected to 
ensure adequate oversight of institutions of higher education 
participating in the Federal financial aid programs. What is the 
Department's expected timeline for proposing regulations regarding each 
of the issues discussed in the January-March 2024 negotiated rulemaking 
related to accrediting agencies and state authorizers?
    Answer. The Department expects to release proposed regulations for 
accreditation and state authorization this fall.
    Question. Now that funding has been awarded for the Career 
Connected High School Program, what evidence and data will the 
Department collect from grantees, how will the Department measure the 
success of the program, and how will the Department use lessons learned 
from these grantees to help school districts and technical colleges 
around the country improve their CTE programs?
    Answer. We are collecting data about Career-Connected High School 
(CCHS) grant implementation and student outcomes so that we can learn 
from and share the results with States, LEAs, and community colleges. 
The statute requires grantees to report on the core indicators of 
performance established for the Perkins State formula grant program, 
but we decided to collect more comprehensive outcome data from the 
grantees beyond the formula grant indicators. Furthermore, each grantee 
is supporting an independent evaluation that will collect and report on 
the number and percentage of students who graduated from high school 
having:
  --Earned through dual or concurrent enrollment 12 or more 
        postsecondary credits that are part of a program of study that 
        culminates with an associate, bachelor's, or advanced degree, 
        or completion of a Registered Apprenticeship Program.
  --Completed 40 or more hours of work-based learning for which they 
        received wages or academic credit, or both.
  --Attained an industry-recognized credential that is in-demand in the 
        local, regional, or State labor market and associated with one 
        or more jobs with median earnings that exceed the median 
        earnings of a high school graduate.
  --Met, in each year of high school, with a school counselor, college 
        adviser, career coach, or other appropriately trained adult for 
        education and career counseling during which they reviewed and 
        updated a personalized postsecondary educational and career 
        plan.
    These outcomes must be disaggregated by major racial and ethnic 
groups, sex, and special population status, as well as by each CTE 
program and program of study. Additionally, each grantee will report 
annually on the extent to which CTE participants and CTE concentrators 
in each CTE program or program of study reflect the demographics of the 
school, including sex, major racial and ethnic groups, and special 
populations status.
    We will disseminate what we learn from this program to States and 
subrecipients of Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act 
funds to inform and, we hope, propel more systemic reforms to expand 
access to career-connected learning.
    We are also excited to learn from the 13 CCHS grants that are 
predominantly serving rural communities that often do not have the 
resources to implement wide-scale reforms in career-connected learning. 
The CCHS investment in these communities may demonstrate new strategies 
for improving opportunities in rural communities that can inform State 
and Federal policymaking on CTE and rural economic development.
    Question. Earlier this year, the National Center for Education 
Evaluation of the i3 Fund, the program upon which the Education 
Innovation and Research was largely based, found that just more than 
half of scale-up grantees--those with the most rigorous prior research 
findings of effectiveness--reported positive effects on student 
outcomes from their grants. The report also noted that those scale-up 
evaluations included little reporting on what was learned about 
effective approaches to scaling.
    The FY25 Congressional Justification indicates the Department would 
reserve up to $13.45 million in fiscal year 2025 Education Innovation 
and Research appropriation for technical assistance, including 
technical assistance to help grantees develop and implement rigorous 
evaluations, and dissemination. How will these funds and other 
resources be used to increase the percentage of scale-up grantees with 
positive effects on student outcomes, expand and disseminate knowledge 
about effective implementation and approaches to scaling, and further 
learning from findings of no effect?
    Answer. The Department's Office of Elementary and Secondary 
Education and Institute of Education Sciences are collaborating on how 
best to utilize an increase in the Department's reservation for 
national activities under Education Innovation and Research (EIR) to 
improve grantee performance. Among the Department's efforts may be 
expanded technical assistance on performance measurement and analysis; 
studying conditions that make grantees with certain characteristics 
more or less likely to succeed in their EIR projects; pre-application 
evaluation design webinars to improve initial evaluation design; and 
support to grantees on dissemination strategies, including how to 
translate findings to non-scientific audiences.
    Question. The Institute of Education Sciences budget includes $2.2 
million for joint work with the National Science Foundation on a new AI 
Institute on Intelligent Tutoring.
    How much funding is requested within the NSF budget for this joint 
work?
    Answer. Each NSF Artificial Intelligence Research Institute is 
funded at up to $4.0 million per year for up to 5 years. Additional 
information on NSF's FY 2025 Request for these AI Research Institutes 
is located on the NSF Centers website.
    Across the 5 years of the grant, NSF and IES will be investing 
approximately $20M to support the AI Institute on Inclusive and 
Innovative Intelligent Technologies for Education (INVITE AI 
Institute). NSF and IES will split 50% of the costs to support the 
joint work (approximately $2M per FY/per agency).
    Question. Please describe how this new institute would build on the 
Digital Learning Platforms Research Network and develop AI-driven 
innovations that will reduce achievement gaps and address the needs of 
all learners, especially those from historically underserved student 
populations and diverse learners, including Native American students.
    Answer. The INVITE AI Institute is developing AI tools and 
approaches to track and promote skills that underlie successful 
learning and contribute to academic success: persistence, academic 
resilience, and collaboration. Fostering such skills can help improve 
academic achievement for learners from historically marginalized groups 
and close persistent achievement gaps. INVITE will also form a national 
community of practice with a shared mission to advance diversity, 
equity, and inclusion in computer science, as a pathway to 
participation in AI. Primary activities will focus on engaging members 
of the community of practice in taking action to deliver equitable and 
inclusive K-12 learning experiences in computing and introductory AI; 
providing K-12 teachers with knowledge of CS and AI provides an 
opportunity to introduce concepts to K-12 students. INVITE will 
collaborate with the STARS Computing Corps, which includes 53 
institutional members, including nine Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities (HBCUs) and engages higher education computing around a 
shared commitment to take action to advance diversity, equity, and 
inclusion in computing. Through this collaboration with STARS Computing 
Corps, the INVITE Institute will offer the INVITE Teaching Fellows 
program, which aims to equip K-12 teachers with K-12 computing 
education materials and practices that value the cultural wealth of 
Black and LatinX students and connect them with undergraduate students.
    The Digital Learning Platforms Research Network (also known as 
SEERNet) is a separate IES program that is part of IES's Accelerate, 
Transform, Scale (ATS) Initiative. The goal of this network is to 
leverage existing, widely used digital learning platforms for rigorous 
education research. Five digital learning platforms have developed 
tools and processes to support research, and IES is now providing 
funding to research teams to use those platforms to conduct their 
studies. NSF has recently funded the SafeInsights project through the 
Mid-scale Research Infrastructure program, which builds on and extends 
infrastructure development in this area. A more comprehensive overview 
of IES's investments in AI can be found here.
    Question. The Department's latest regulatory agenda identified 
plans to amend the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act 
regulations. The agenda further indicated a Notice of Proposed 
Rulemaking was expected in 5/2024. Please provide an update on whether 
and when such action is expected.
    Answer. The Department plans to amend the Family Educational Rights 
and Privacy Act (FERPA) regulations to implement amendments to the 
FERPA contained in the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 (Public 
Law 111296) and the Uninterrupted Scholars Act of 2013 (Public Law 
112278); to provide needed clarity regarding the of terms definitions 
and other key provisions of FERPA; and to make necessary changes 
identified as a result of the Department's experience administering 
FERPA and the current regulations. For an updated timeline on the 
expected Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, please see the Spring 2024 
regulatory agenda once it is published by the Office of Management and 
Budget.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Patty Murray
    Question. The FAFSA form was supposed to be cut by two-thirds. 
Millions of additional students were supposed to get more money for 
college. Students experiencing homelessness, incarcerated students, 
justice-involved students, parenting students, and many others were to 
gain access to college aid through a new and streamlined process. Yet, 
continued technical challenges and another 6 months of delays from when 
the form should usually launch in October have left students, families, 
and institutions of higher education uncertain of their future. In the 
face of these shortcomings, one of the Department of Education's 
(Department) main contractors running the FAFSA, General Dynamics 
Information Technology (GDIT), received $122 million to modernize FAFSA 
systems.
    Have you been informed of potential shortcomings with this 
contractor?
    Answer. Senior leadership within the Department became aware of 
challenges with the FAFSA timeline, including what contractors held 
responsibility for different FAFSA components, in fall 2022. We have 
been working closely with Federal Student Aid and other offices within 
the Department since that time to set priorities, oversee project 
planning and implementation, and ensure accountability for the 
development and launch of the 2024-25 FAFSA. This detailed and frequent 
oversight will continue leading up to and through the 2025-26 FAFSA.
    How much in Federal funds has GDIT received to date under its June 
2022 FAFSA contract with the Department?
    Question. As of May 23, 2024, the Department had paid 
$17,262,821.63 to GDIT.
    What accountability metrics were in place to ensure that GDIT 
completed the FAFSA form modernization in a timely manner?
    Answer. GDIT's contract has contained various service level 
agreements intended to measure their performance focused across several 
areas including testing, security, system development and architecture, 
and system performance.
    Question. One important way that other government agencies and the 
private sector pilot major new systems is through user testing. The 
FAFSA Simplification Act, requires the Department to put the new FAFSA 
through rigorous consumer testing before it was launched. This could 
have helped avoid some of the bugs and data errors we see today. In 
your FY25 request for Student Aid Administration, the Department cites 
that consumer testing is still one of the ``remaining provisions'' of 
the law that must still be implemented.
    Please confirm that user-testing of the FAFSA was done in advance 
of this year's launch as required by law, and provide details about the 
size and scope.
    Answer. To enhance the 2024-25 FAFSA form experience, Federal 
Student Aid (FSA) and its office of Student Experience and Aid Delivery 
have conducted 21 comprehensive user experience research studies to 
date with over 300 participants. This consumer testing, which began in 
March 2022,\2\ included 1:1 usability testing observing participants 
engaging with early designs before development, as well as usability 
testing once the form went live in late December 2023. The participant 
selection was aligned to the FAFSA Simplification Act's consumer 
testing requirement and outreach to required audiences. In addition, 
FSA ensured participants were recruited from a wide audience, including 
students, parents, financial aid advisors, and high school counselors. 
Participants were also drawn from various specialized groups, such as 
first-generation college students, English learners, veterans, 
servicemembers, low-income families (earning $50,000 and below), 
incarcerated students, adult students over the age of 25, homeless 
students, and others. Students and parents were recruited from all over 
the United States and sessions were predominantly held online via video 
conference.
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    \2\ Several user experience research activities were completed for 
the 2023-24 FAFSA form, which included implementing certain elements of 
the FAFSA Simplification Act. That testing began in November of 2021.
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    The testing methodologies were extensive, covering roles and 
taxonomy surveys, stakeholder interviews, cognitive walk-throughs, card 
sorting exercises, customer feedback surveys, email content testing, 
and co-creation workshops. This approach enabled a detailed evaluation 
of various elements of the application system, including the main form, 
embedded questions, dashboard, summary page, my activity feature, the 
FAFSA Submission Summary, and the overall user experience.
    The FSA design team within SEAD collaborated with various teams 
within FSA to manage and deliver the FAFSA user experience research. 
Individual studies were managed by FSA's vendor, Accenture Federal 
Services (AFS). Participants were recruited from a third-party 
recruitment platform along with partner organizations and school 
contacts to assemble the participant groups. AFS compensated each 
participant an average of $50 for their valuable input. This meticulous 
approach ensured that the insights obtained were thorough and aligned 
with FSA's broader objectives to optimize the application process to 
meet the needs of the millions of students and parents who interact 
with the FAFSA form.
    Question. Please describe what steps you are taking to ensure that 
a beta version of the online form will be available in September 2024.
    Answer. The Department will make a prototype of the form available 
several weeks prior to launch. The Department recently announced that, 
to ensure a smooth user experience during the upcoming FAFSA cycle, the 
2025-26 FAFSA form will remain consistent with the 2024-25 form. This 
mitigates the need for a beta version of the 2025-26 form.
    Question. New data from the Office of Federal Student Aid reveals a 
significant drop in the number of FAFSA completions for the 2024-2025 
school year for high school seniors. This decrease shows that only 
about 29 percent of the class of 2024 completed a FAFSA form compared 
to 46.8 percent of the class of 2023 through the same date last year.
    What action steps will the Administration be taking later this 
spring and summer to get FAFSA completions back on track compared to 
last year?
    Answer. The Department has already received over 12.22 million 
FAFSA forms, 11.68 million of which have been processed as of July 9, 
2024. The Department has made significant progress in closing the gap 
in FAFSA submissions to 5.7 percent as of July 9 compared to this time 
last year, down from nearly 40 percent in March. Submissions from high 
school seniors are currently less than 12 percent behind last year, as 
of July 2, 2024.
    In addition to the Department's existing messaging and media, the 
Department launched the Student Support Strategy in May to distribute 
$50 million to organizations on the ground supporting current cycle 
FAFSA completion efforts, specifically targeting this year's high 
school senior class. Organizations receiving funding are implementing 
projects such as paying for additional summer staffing, developing 
supportive resources, and working directly with students and families.
    This spring and summer the Department is taking significant action 
to get FAFSA completions at the levels of previous cycles. Over the 
summer months the Department is implementing four primary strategies to 
close completion gaps:
      1. Updating key messaging and asks by stakeholder group for the 
        summer months.
      2. Maximizing first-time FAFSA submissions and completions 
        through a community college specific campaign, adult learner 
        campaign, and territories-specific support.
      3. Converting students who have started but not submitted the 
        FAFSA to completed status through direct emails and text 
        campaigns from FSA, as well as other initiatives like 
        additional trainings for counselors.
      4. Ensuring that all returning students have completed the FAFSA 
        through tactics focused on students who may have stopped out of 
        higher education and/or who may be transfer students.
    The Deputy Secretary is hosting office hour sessions for state 
officials working on statewide FAFSA initiatives. The office hours have 
three objectives: (1) share information,
    (2) get feedback/open communication, (3) answer questions from the 
field.
    Finally, the Department has launched a Summer Resources campaign to 
new stakeholder groups who oversee locations that students frequent 
over the summer. These groups will provide a folder of promotional 
materials and resources to remind students to complete the FAFSA and 
offer support. The campaign includes more than 30 new stakeholder 
groups including: public recreation centers, gyms, movie theaters, 
libraries, supermarkets, one-stop centers, food pantries, malls, summer 
sports orgs, volunteer sites, etc.
    Question. What steps is the Department taking to ensure that the 
FAFSA form will launch on time in October 2024 in time for the 2025-
2026 academic school year?
    Answer. We have heard from students, families, institutions, 
states, and those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA 
form to launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal 
and toward launching other functionality to ensure students receive 
timely aid offers for the 2025-26 award year as quickly as possible.
    The Department has announced Jeremy Singer, president of the 
College Board, as a new FAFSA Executive Advisor. He will lead FSA's 
overall strategy on the 2025-26 FAFSA form, working closely with the 
Department's leadership and the FAFSA implementation team to strengthen 
internal systems and processes, bolster technical capabilities, and 
drive innovation to help ensure optimal performance leading to the 
launch of the 2025-26 FAFSA form.
    Senior leadership at the Department will continue to work closely 
with career staff to ensure the 2025-26 FAFSA is launched and ready for 
students to submit applications on an expected timeline of October 1, 
2024.
    To ensure a consistent and smooth user experience during the 
upcoming FAFSA cycle, the 2025-26 FAFSA will remain consistent with the 
2024-25 form. As a result, and similar to previous years when we have 
not had major shifts in functionality, the 2025-26 form will not be 
made available for public comment.
    However, we will continue to focus our efforts on improving the 
user experience for students, families, and our partners and will 
collect feedback to inform our efforts through a series of listening 
sessions and a Request for Information (RFI) this summer to solicit 
feedback from those not able to attend the sessions.
    The Department will request specific feedback on ways to improve 
the help text on the form, student tip sheets, or other direct 
communication to students to ensure students can successfully complete 
and submit the form. The Department will also request feedback from 
financial aid administrators, counselors and others on ways the 
Department can provide additional support to them in their work.
    The listening sessions and RFI will also lead to the development of 
a new Better FAFSA Better Future Roadmap--to be released in late 
summer--that will outline new tools the Department is making available, 
such as additional trainings, webinars, counselor guides, and student 
tip sheets.
    Question. The FY25 budget request includes appropriations language 
to increase to 10 percent the amount of grant funds States are allowed 
to reserve for evaluation of the comprehensive literacy development 
grants program.
    Please describe the justification for this proposal and how it 
would further the purpose of this program.
    Answer. ESEA section 2222(f) allows a State educational agency 
(SEA) receiving a CLSD grant to reserve not more than 5 percent for 
State level activities, including evaluation. Grantees have repeatedly 
expressed to the Department the need for a higher reservation of CLSD 
grant funding for such State level activities as supporting funding of 
literacy personnel, professional development, subgrantee monitoring, 
and evaluation.
    Additionally, current applicants have expressed concern with the 5 
percent cap and their ability to cover SEA expenses to administer the 
grant.
    Question. Please describe planned activities to support cross-
program efforts to help States and LEAs better serve students 
experiencing homelessness.
    Answer. The Department is committed to taking a cross-program 
approach to implementing programs for students experiencing 
homelessness, including the Education for Homeless Children and Youth 
(EHCY) program and the American Rescue Plan funding for Homeless 
Children and Youth (ARP-HCY) program, and programs focused on other 
highly mobile student populations. For example, the Department 
presented at the 2024 National Association of ESEA State Program 
Administrators (NAESPA) conference on the importance of supporting 
highly mobile students through cross-systems efforts. The Department's 
2024 annual meeting for State Coordinators of EHCY programs also 
featured discussions with staff from career and technical education 
(CTE) programs and Head Start programs, underscoring the need for 
cross-program collaboration to address the unique needs of both young 
children and older youth experiencing homelessness. Finally, the May 
2024 convening for State Coordinators of Title I, Part D programs 
included a session focused on addressing the unique needs of students 
who move between the juvenile justice, child welfare, and homelessness 
systems.
    The Department also worked with our National Center for Homeless 
Education (NCHE), to release a suite of resources focused on the 
importance of cross-program coordination to effectively identify and 
support students in foster care. For example, NCHE conducted webinars 
focused on cross-program implementation strategies, including webinars 
focused on support for English learners experiencing homelessness 
(https://nche.ed.gov/supporting-english-learners-els-experiencing-
homelessness-an-arp-hcy-implementation-spotlight/), migratory students 
experiencing homelessness (https://nche.ed.gov/serving-migrant-
students-experiencing-homelessness/?highlight=migrant), and students 
with disabilities experiencing homelessness (https://nche.ed.gov/
strengthening-the-provision-of-special-education-services-for-children-
with-disabilities-and-their-families-experiencing-homelessness/). NCHE 
has also focused its technical assistance on cross-systems efforts to 
support students experiencing homelessness, such as providing a suite 
of resources related to using program funds for systems navigation, 
including. For example, NCHE published a brief in April 2023 on systems 
navigators (see: https://nche.ed.gov/leveraging-systems-navigators-
brief/?highlight=systems%20navigator).
    Additionally, the fiscal year 2025 request also includes a proposal 
to improve coordination of services for students who face multiple risk 
factors and, as a result, are eligible for multiple Federal programs, 
including students experiencing homelessness. Each of these programs is 
designed to support the unique needs of students through coordination 
with multiple agencies and systems, such as state and local child 
welfare agencies, housing agencies and providers, and community-based 
organizations. The number of students who qualify for services provided 
under multiple Federal programs and deal with life circumstances that 
jeopardize their educational stability and success is significant. The 
Administration is requesting appropriations language under General 
Provisions to authorize a limited demonstration project to provide 
additional resources to SEAs and LEAs to address the challenge of 
coordinating services for students. The proposal would authorize the 
Department to reserve up to one-half of 1 percent of funds appropriated 
for the Migrant Education, Neglected and Delinquent, and Education for 
Homeless Children and Youths program for the Department to make 
competitive grants to SEAs to improve service delivery and coordination 
for at-risk students who are eligible to receive services under 
multiple Federal education programs. SEAs would have the authority to 
make subgrants to LEAs to carry out these activities. Ultimately, this 
authority would support better coordination of services across funding 
streams, help ensure more effective and efficient use of Federal 
resources for benefitting students, reduce duplication in services, 
ensure service continuity, and provide improved service delivery and 
direct student support. Funding could support personnel, training and 
professional development, data collection and analysis, and 
documentation of best practices to shore up SEA and LEA capacity to 
address needs of students that qualify for multiple programs (like 
migratory students and students experiencing homelessness) across ED 
grant funds.
    Question. Please also describe what actions are planned to work 
with State Title I directors and State Coordinators for Education of 
Homeless Children and Youths on effectively using a sufficient amount 
of Title I-A funds for identifying and meeting the needs of students 
experiencing homelessness.
    Answer. In the past 2 years, the Department has increased both our 
oversight and technical assistance with respect to the requirement that 
LEAs reserve a portion of their Title I-A funds to meet the needs of 
students experiencing homelessness. For example, we recently revised 
our monitoring protocols for the EHCY program to include a section 
focused on the Title I-A set-aside. We have issued findings in several 
States regarding this requirement and have required the SEAs to address 
this issue by providing guidance and technical assistance to LEAs. We 
have presented on the monitoring findings at several national 
conferences in 2024, including sharing both the common findings and how 
SEAs have addressed the finding. In addition, the Department has taken 
steps to improve the transparency of SEA data. In February 2024, for 
the first time, the Department required each State to submit data on 
LEA reservations of Title I-A funds, including the amount reserved for 
students experiencing homelessness. The Department is currently 
reviewing these data, after which we will make the data public. Having 
these data will help the Department compare the Title I-A homeless set-
aside to the homeless count. The analysis will inform our monitoring 
and technical assistance in FY 2025.
    Question. What is the Department's plan to ensure that applicants 
who indicate homelessness on the FAFSA, but do not have documentation 
from authorized entities, receive timely and accurate information on 
the process for the determination of their unaccompanied homeless youth 
status, including the responsibility of the FAA to make determinations 
based solely on a written statement from the student or a documented 
interview?
    Answer. While completing the FAFSA form, applicants can obtain 
assistance in answering the question regarding being unaccompanied and 
homeless or at risk of homelessness via a tool tip located next to the 
question. Upon selecting the tool tip icon, applicants are taken to 
https://studentaid.gov/2425/help/unaccompanied-homeless.
    Additionally, we communicate the impacts of selecting ``None of 
these apply'' after the applicant indicates they are unaccompanied and 
homeless or at risk of homelessness in several ways. First on the 
Dependency Results page, we say:
      ``Based on your answers, you're a provisionally independent 
        student. This means you don't need to answer questions about 
        your parents to submit your application. To complete your 
        application, you'll need to contact your college's or career 
        school's financial aid office and provide documentation to 
        verify your circumstances.
      We won't be able to calculate your Student Aid Index (SAI) until 
        you confirm your circumstances with your financial aid office. 
        Until then, we will provide only an estimate of your Federal 
        student aid eligibility as an independent student.''
    Then on the confirmation page, we explain the provisional 
independent status again with similar language.
    Once the FAFSA form is processed, the applicant receives this 
additional guidance on the FAFSA Submission Summary:
      ``You didn't report information about your parents because you 
        indicated that you are an unaccompanied youth and homeless, or 
        an unaccompanied youth at risk of homelessness. You need to 
        follow up with your college's or career school's financial aid 
        office before your eligibility for Federal student aid can be 
        determined. A financial aid administrator may request 
        documentation of your status in order to complete their review 
        of your FAFSA form.''
    As follow-up, the processed results are made available to 
applicants. The Department has emailed all FAFSA applicants who answer 
the FAFSA question on whether the student was unaccompanied and either 
(1) homeless or (2) self-supporting and at risk of being homeless in 
the affirmative. These emails are sent weekly to over 50,000 FAFSA 
applicants and have included information on what students should expect 
from the process and working with their FAAs.
    Question. What is the Department's plan to ensure that its FAFSA 
outreach initiatives, materials, and campaigns include tailored 
strategies for reaching homeless and foster youth, as well as the 
educators and service providers who work with them?
    Answer. In its April 2023 guidance on unaccompanied homeless youth, 
the Department stated that ``In all situations, institutions should be 
able to show that their Policies for reviewing and making homeless 
youth determinations are compliant with statutory requirements.'' The 
Department will also continue to collaborate with advocates of 
vulnerable unaccompanied and foster youth as part of our outreach 
strategy. We will also explore clarifications and update to existing 
guidance around supporting unaccompanied homeless and foster youth.
    Question. What is the Department's plan for oversight and 
monitoring institutions' compliance with these requirements?
    Answer. The Department will continue to ensure that institutions 
comply with all statutory and regulatory requirements through program 
reviews and other regular oversight activities.
    Question. How does the Department plan to ensure that unaccompanied 
youth at-risk of or currently experiencing homelessness are routed 
correctly on the FAFSA through a path that is separate and distinct 
from provisionally independent students on the 2025-2026 FAFSA?
    Answer. Currently, unaccompanied youth at-risk or currently 
experiencing homelessness with a designation are routed through the 
independent path. Students who need an administrator to confirm their 
designation are directed to a page that alerts them of the action 
needed by the institutional administrator but are then routed through 
the independent path where they will receive a provisional SAI pending 
their determination.
    Question. Public comments have previously suggested that the 
Department change the FAFSA questions for students who are experiencing 
homelessness, or at risk of homelessness, to inquire about whether 
student applicants were in such status during the previous 2 years 
(e.g. 2022 or 2023) instead of the previous year, consistent with the 
use of ``prior- prior year'' windows elsewhere throughout the form. 
Please indicate whether the Department will change the 2025-2026 FAFSA 
homeless filtering question (question 6 on the current form) to ask 
whether students were experiencing homelessness or at risk of 
homelessness, in 2023 or 2024, or the previous 2 years.
    Answer. To ensure a smooth user experience during the upcoming 
FAFSA cycle, the 2025-26 FAFSA form will remain consistent with the 
2024-25 form. The Department is assessing suggested changes to the user 
experience that do not require the public comment process, such as 
those impacting students experiencing or at risk of homelessness, to 
determine if changes can be implemented in 2025-26.
    Question. Based on the most recent data calculated by the 
Department, nearly 44,000 FAFSA applicants in the 2022-23 cycle 
indicated that they were, or were at risk of becoming, unaccompanied 
homeless youth, but had a status was ``unknown'' because no 
determination was made in response their requests for schools to 
consider their special circumstance of being homeless.
    What actions has the Department taken, and what steps will it take 
going forward to communicate directly with these applicants to make 
sure they have the information and resources needed to obtain financial 
aid?
    Answer. The Department's weekly email to students who indicate they 
are unaccompanied and experiencing homelessness or are unaccompanied 
and at risk of experiencing homelessness contains information on what 
students should do if their school has not already contacted them to 
determine eligibility for Federal student aid. This email makes clear 
that a student's financial aid administration is required to make a 
determination of the student's status based on a written statement from 
the student or a formal interview.
                                 ______
                                 
            Questions Submitted by Senator Richard J. Durbin
    Question. Over the past few years, the Department has provided 
widespread relief to defrauded students through group borrower defense 
discharge. This relief has totaled nearly $12 billion for 891,000 
borrowers. I applaud the Department for taking steps to offer group 
borrower defense discharge to students, including former students of 
Corinthian Colleges (Corinthian), ITT Technical Institute, Inc. (ITT 
Tech), Westwood College (Westwood), Ashford University, the University 
of Phoenix, the Arts Institutes, DeVry University (DeVry), and 
Marinello Schools of Beauty. These students were misled by unscrupulous 
for-profit colleges, and they are not the only students who are 
crippled with student loan debt and a worthless degree. Since June 
2018, the Department has released borrower defense data on a quarterly 
basis:
    Please provide a breakdown of ``total denied'' borrower defense 
claims to date by institution.
    Please provide a breakdown of ``total ineligible'' borrower defense 
claims to date by institution.
    Please provide a breakdown of ``total closed'' borrower defense 
claims to date by institution.
    Answer. Provided in attached Excel.
Please note that denied or ineligible have been used interchangedly in 
        the past.

                  Total Denied Cases By Primary School
                           As of May 31, 2024
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Case counts and totals are rounded to the nearest ten and redacted for
                          values less than 10.
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                                                                  Case
                        Primary School                           Count
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Heald College................................................        430
Altierus Career College......................................        130
Everest College..............................................         70
Everest Institute............................................         70
Clark Atlanta University.....................................         60
Galen Health Institutes......................................         60
Northern Illinois University.................................         60
St. Petersburg College.......................................         60
WyoTech......................................................         50
Arizona College..............................................         40
Belhaven University..........................................         40
Collin County Community College District.....................         40
Everest University...........................................         40
Faulkner University..........................................         40
Henry Ford College...........................................         40
Midlands Technical College...................................         40
Stark State College..........................................         40
University of South Florida..................................         40
Ball State University........................................         30
LeMoyne-Owen College.........................................         30
Middle Tennessee State University............................         30
Peirce College...............................................         30
Regency Beauty Institute.....................................         30
Roosevelt University.........................................         30
South College................................................         30
St. George's University, School of Medicine..................         30
Texas Woman's University.....................................         30
University of Houston--Downtown..............................         30
University of North Texas....................................         30
University of Southern Mississippi...........................         30
Virginia Commonwealth University.............................         30
Academy for Nursing and Health Occupations...................         20
Altierus Career Education....................................         20
Amridge University...........................................         20
Arlington Career Institute...................................         20
Auburn University Montgomery.................................         20
Austin Peay State University.................................         20
Bridgewater State University.................................         20
Brightpoint Community College................................         20
California Baptist University................................         20
California State University--Sacramento......................         20
California State University, Long Beach......................         20
Central State University.....................................         20
Clark State College..........................................         20
Cleveland State University...................................         20
Cuyahoga Community College...................................         20
Dallas Baptist University....................................         20
Darton State College.........................................         20
Dowling College..............................................         20
Eastern College of Health Vocations..........................         20
Eastern Illinois University..................................         20
Florida State University.....................................         20
Full Sail University.........................................         20
George Mason University......................................         20
Georgia Career Institute.....................................         20
Gwinnett Technical College...................................         20
Indiana Institute of Technology..............................         20
Indiana University--Bloomington..............................         20
Iowa Central Community College...............................         20
Jacksonville University......................................         20
Kirkwood Community College...................................         20
LA College International.....................................         20
Lane College.................................................         20
Lincoln College..............................................         20
Louisiana State University in Shreveport.....................         20
Metropolitan State University of Denver......................         20
Miami University.............................................         20
Mid-America Christian University.............................         20
Midwestern Career College....................................         20
National Louis University....................................         20
Oakland University...........................................         20
Ohio Valley University.......................................         20
Palm Beach State College.....................................         20
Park University..............................................         20
Pikes Peak State College.....................................         20
Saint John's University......................................         20
Saint Xavier University......................................         20
San Diego State University...................................         20
Santa Fe College.............................................         20
Seminole State College of Florida............................         20
Specs Howard School of Media Arts............................         20
Springfield College..........................................         20
Strayer University...........................................         20
Tarrant County College District..............................         20
Thomas Edison State University...............................         20
Tyler Junior College.........................................         20
University of Nevada , Reno..................................         20
Wake Technical Community College.............................         20
Washtenaw Community College..................................         20
Western Illinois University..................................         20
Winston-Salem State University...............................         20
Allen University.............................................         10
Allied American University...................................         10
American Musical & Dramatic Academy..........................         10
Ashland University...........................................         10
Auburn University............................................         10
Baker University.............................................         10
Central Carolina Technical College...........................         10
Central Florida Institute....................................         10
Central Texas College District...............................         10
Claflin University...........................................         10
College of Charleston........................................         10
CUNY John Jay College of Criminal Justice....................         10
Dade Medical College.........................................         10
Daytona State College........................................         10
Eastern Iowa Community College District......................         10
Eastern Kentucky University..................................         10
Edward Waters University.....................................         10
Everest University--Pompano Beach............................         10
Felician University..........................................         10
Francis Marion University....................................         10
Frontier Nursing University..................................         10
Gateway Community and Technical College......................         10
Generations College..........................................         10
Georgia Gwinnett College.....................................         10
Grand Rapids Community College...............................         10
Hocking Technical College....................................         10
Houston Christian University.................................         10
Indiana University--Purdue University Indianapolis...........         10
International Air & Hospitality Academy......................         10
Jarvis Christian University..................................         10
Laurus Technical Institute...................................         10
Lewis University.............................................         10
Limestone University.........................................         10
Livingstone College..........................................         10
Macomb Community College.....................................         10
Metropolitan College of New York.............................         10
Midwestern State University..................................         10
Mississippi University for Women.............................         10
Mountain State University....................................         10
MTI College of Business and Technology.......................         10
Nashville College of Medical Careers.........................         10
National Paralegal College...................................         10
Newbridge College--San Diego East............................         10
Newbury College..............................................         10
North Carolina Wesleyan University...........................         10
Northeastern Illinois University.............................         10
Northwest Career College.....................................         10
Ottawa University............................................         10
Owens Community College......................................         10
Palm Beach Atlantic University...............................         10
Pfeiffer University..........................................         10
Philander Smith College......................................         10
Rowan University.............................................         10
Saint Joseph's University....................................         10
San Francisco State University...............................         10
San Jacinto Community College District.......................         10
Southeastern College (Jacksonville)..........................         10
Southwestern Illinois College................................         10
St. Joseph's University New York.............................         10
Stephen F Austin State University............................         10
Tallahassee Community College................................         10
Trumbull Business College....................................         10
Tulsa Community College......................................         10
University of Advancing Computer Technology..................         10
University of Alabama........................................         10
University of Bridgeport.....................................         10
University of Denver.........................................         10
University of Massachusetts--Dartmouth.......................         10
University of North Florida..................................         10
Western Hills School of Beauty & Hair Design.................         10
Wichita State University.....................................         10
Wilmington University........................................         10
Winthrop University..........................................         10
A & W Healthcare Educators...................................        <10
Aaron's Academy of Beauty....................................        <10
ABC Technical & Trade Schools................................        <10
Abcott Institute.............................................        <10
Abdill Career College........................................        <10
Abraham Lincoln University...................................        <10
Academy College..............................................        <10
Academy Di Capelli...........................................        <10
Academy of Aesthetic Arts....................................        <10
Academy of Art University....................................        <10
Academy of Career Training...................................        <10
Academy of Massage and Bodywork..............................        <10
Academy of Salon and Spa.....................................        <10
AccuTech Career Institute....................................        <10
Ace Institute of Technology..................................        <10
ACT College..................................................        <10
Adams State University.......................................        <10
Adelphi Business College.....................................        <10
Adelphi University...........................................        <10
Adirondack Community College--SUNY Office of Community               <10
 Colleges....................................................
Advanced Institute of Hair Design............................        <10
Advantage Career Institute...................................        <10
Agnes Scott College..........................................        <10
Aiken School of Cosmetology and Barbering....................        <10
Aiken Technical College......................................        <10
Aims Community College.......................................        <10
Akron Institute of Herzing University........................        <10
Alabama State University.....................................        <10
Alaska Career College........................................        <10
Alaska Pacific University....................................        <10
Albany Law School of Union University........................        <10
Albany State University......................................        <10
Albright College.............................................        <10
Alcorn State University......................................        <10
Alfred University............................................        <10
All Beauty College...........................................        <10
Allan Hancock College........................................        <10
Allen County Community College...............................        <10
Alliant International University.............................        <10
Allied Medical and Technical Institute.......................        <10
Allure School of Cosmetology.................................        <10
Alma College.................................................        <10
Alpine College...............................................        <10
Altoona Beauty School........................................        <10
Alverno College..............................................        <10
Ambria College of Nursing....................................        <10
American Academy McAllister Institute........................        <10
American Academy of Art College..............................        <10
American Beauty Academy......................................        <10
American Business Institute (Closed).........................        <10
American Career Academy......................................        <10
American Career Training Travel School.......................        <10
American Careers Institute...................................        <10
American College of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine..........        <10
American College of Business.................................        <10
American College of Healthcare and Technology................        <10
American Institute...........................................        <10
American Institute of Alternative Medicine...................        <10
American Institute of Beauty.................................        <10
American Institute of Medical Sciences & Education...........        <10
American Institute of Medical Sonography.....................        <10
American Jewish University...................................        <10
American Medical Academy.....................................        <10
American Public University System............................        <10
American Transportation College..............................        <10
American University (The)....................................        <10
American University of Antigua College of Medicine...........        <10
AmesEd.......................................................        <10
AMG School of Nursing........................................        <10
Andrew College...............................................        <10
Andrews University...........................................        <10
Angeles College..............................................        <10
Angelo State University......................................        <10
Angley College...............................................        <10
Anne Arundel Community College...............................        <10
Anoka Technical College......................................        <10
Antelope Valley College......................................        <10
Anthem Institute.............................................        <10
Antioch University...........................................        <10
Antonelli Medical & Professional Institute...................        <10
Apollo Business & Technical School...........................        <10
Apollo College of Medical & Dental Careers...................        <10
Appalachian College of Pharmacy..............................        <10
Aquinas College..............................................        <10
Arcadia University...........................................        <10
Aristotle College of Medical and Dental Technology...........        <10
Arizona Culinary Institute...................................        <10
Arizona State University.....................................        <10
Arkansas Tech University.....................................        <10
Arkansas Technical School....................................        <10
Arlington Medical Institute..................................        <10
Armstrong State University...................................        <10
Art Center College of Design.................................        <10
Artisan College of Cosmetology (The).........................        <10
Artistic Nails & Beauty Academy..............................        <10
ASA College..................................................        <10
Asheville Buncombe Technical Community College...............        <10
ASPIRA City College..........................................        <10
Associated Technical Institute...............................        <10
Assumption University........................................        <10
ATA Career Education.........................................        <10
Atelier Esthetique Institute of Esthetics....................        <10
Athens State University......................................        <10
Atlanta College of Art.......................................        <10
Atlanta School of Massage....................................        <10
Atlanta Technical College....................................        <10
Atlantic Cape Community College..............................        <10
Augsburg University..........................................        <10
Augusta State University.....................................        <10
Augusta University...........................................        <10
Augustana College............................................        <10
Aurora University............................................        <10
Austin Community College.....................................        <10
Avalon School of Cosmetology.................................        <10
Avalon Vocational Technical Institute........................        <10
Avant Gard The School........................................        <10
Ave Maria School of Law......................................        <10
Aveda Institute--Fort Myers..................................        <10
Aveda Institute--South Florida...............................        <10
Aviation Institute of Maintenance............................        <10
Avila University.............................................        <10
Award Beauty School..........................................        <10
Azusa Pacific University.....................................        <10
Baker College................................................        <10
Balin Inst of Techlgy........................................        <10
Baltimore Studio of Hair Design..............................        <10
Baptist Bible College........................................        <10
Baptist College of Florida (The).............................        <10
Barat College................................................        <10
Barber--Scotia College.......................................        <10
Barclay College..............................................        <10
Barnes Business College......................................        <10
Barry University.............................................        <10
Barton College...............................................        <10
Baton Rouge School of Computers..............................        <10
Bay Area Legal Academy.......................................        <10
Bay De Noc Community College.................................        <10
Bay Path University..........................................        <10
Beauty Academy of South Florida..............................        <10
Beauty Institute Schwarzkopf Professional (The)..............        <10
Beck School of Practical Nursing.............................        <10
Becker College...............................................        <10
Bel--Rea Institute of Animal Technology......................        <10
BELBO Beauty Institute.......................................        <10
Bella Capelli Academy A Paul Mitchell Partner School.........        <10
Bellarmine University........................................        <10
Bellefonte Academy of Beauty.................................        <10
Bellevue University..........................................        <10
Bellus Academy...............................................        <10
Belmont Abbey College........................................        <10
Belmont College..............................................        <10
Belmont University...........................................        <10
Beloit College...............................................        <10
Bemidji State University.....................................        <10
Benedict College.............................................        <10
Benedictine College..........................................        <10
Benedictine University.......................................        <10
Bene's Career Academy........................................        <10
Benjamin Franklin Cummings Institute.........................        <10
Berkeley School of Theology..................................        <10
Berklee College of Music.....................................        <10
Berry College................................................        <10
Best Care College............................................        <10
Bethany College..............................................        <10
Bethune Cookman University...................................        <10
Beulah Heights University....................................        <10
Big Sandy Community and Technical College....................        <10
Binghamton University........................................        <10
BioHealth College............................................        <10
Biola University.............................................        <10
Birmingham-Southern College..................................        <10
Black Hawk College...........................................        <10
Blackburn University.........................................        <10
Blake Austin College.........................................        <10
Blue Ridge Community and Technical College...................        <10
Blue Ridge Community College.................................        <10
Bluefield College............................................        <10
Bluefield State University...................................        <10
Bluegrass Community & Technical College......................        <10
Bob Jones University.........................................        <10
Boca Beauty Academy..........................................        <10
BOCES Rensselaer School of Practical Nursing.................        <10
Boise State University.......................................        <10
Bos-Man's Barber College.....................................        <10
Boston Conservatory..........................................        <10
Boston Graduate School of Psychoanalysis.....................        <10
Bowling Green State University...............................        <10
Brandeis University..........................................        <10
Branell Institute............................................        <10
Brensten Education...........................................        <10
Brescia University...........................................        <10
Bridgewater College..........................................        <10
Brillare Hairdressing Academy................................        <10
Brookline College............................................        <10
Brown College of Court Reporting.............................        <10
Bryant & Stratton College....................................        <10
Bryant University............................................        <10
Bryman College...............................................        <10
Bryman School of Arizona (The)...............................        <10
Bryn Mawr College............................................        <10
Bucknell University..........................................        <10
Buckner Barber School........................................        <10
Bucks County Community College...............................        <10
Bucks County School of Beauty Culture........................        <10
Buena Vista University.......................................        <10
Burlington College...........................................        <10
Business Career Training Institute...........................        <10
Business Informatics Center..................................        <10
Butler Business School.......................................        <10
Butler County Community College..............................        <10
Butler Technology and Career Development Schools.............        <10
Butler University............................................        <10
Cabot College................................................        <10
Cains Barber College.........................................        <10
Caliber Training Institute...................................        <10
California Career Institute..................................        <10
California College of the Arts...............................        <10
California College of Vocational Careers.....................        <10
California Hair Design Academy...............................        <10
California Healing Arts College..............................        <10
California Intercontinental University.......................        <10
California Nurses Educational Institute......................        <10
California Polytechnic State University......................        <10
California State Polytechnic University, Humboldt............        <10
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona..............        <10
California State University Channel Islands..................        <10
California State University, Bakersfield.....................        <10
California State University, Chico...........................        <10
California State University, East Bay........................        <10
California State University, Fullerton.......................        <10
California State University, Los Angeles.....................        <10
California State University, Monterey Bay....................        <10
California State University, San Marcos......................        <10
California State University, Stanislaus......................        <10
Calumet College of Saint Joseph..............................        <10
Calvin University............................................        <10
Cambridge Junior College.....................................        <10
Cambridge Techl Inst.........................................        <10
Cameo Beauty Academy.........................................        <10
Cameron University...........................................        <10
Campbellsville University....................................        <10
Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine....................        <10
Canisius University of Buffalo, New York.....................        <10
Canton City School District Adult Career & Technical                 <10
 Education...................................................
Capital Area Career Center...................................        <10
Capital University...........................................        <10
Capitol City Careers.........................................        <10
Capitol City Trade & Technical School........................        <10
Capitol Court Reporting & Captioning Institute...............        <10
Capitol Technology University................................        <10
Capri Beauty College.........................................        <10
Cardiac and Vascular Institute of Ultrasound.................        <10
Career & Technology Education Centers of Licking County......        <10
Career College of Northern Nevada............................        <10
Career Colleges of America...................................        <10
Career Institute of Health and Technology....................        <10
Career Networks Institute....................................        <10
Career Point Business School.................................        <10
Career Quest Learning Centers................................        <10
Career School of NY..........................................        <10
Career Technical College.....................................        <10
Career Technical Institute...................................        <10
Career Training Academy......................................        <10
Carl Albert State College....................................        <10
Carlow University............................................        <10
Carmichael Beauty College....................................        <10
Carnegie Career College......................................        <10
Carnegie Institute...........................................        <10
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University of Utah...........................................        <10
University of Virginia.......................................        <10
University of Virginia's College at Wise (The)...............        <10
University of Washington--Seattle............................        <10
University of West Los Angeles...............................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Parkside............................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Stevens Point.......................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Stout...............................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Whitewater..........................        <10
Unlimited Cosmetology School.................................        <10
Ursuline College.............................................        <10
Utah State University........................................        <10
Utica School of Commerce.....................................        <10
Utica University.............................................        <10
Valencia College.............................................        <10
Valley Forge Military College................................        <10
Vantage College..............................................        <10
Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology.................        <10
VEEB Nassau County School of Practical Nursing...............        <10
Ventura College..............................................        <10
Vernon College...............................................        <10
Verve College................................................        <10
Vibe Barber College..........................................        <10
Vicksburg School of Cosm.....................................        <10
Victoria College.............................................        <10
Victory University...........................................        <10
Video Symphony EnterTraining.................................        <10
Video Technical Institute....................................        <10
Vincennes Beauty College.....................................        <10
Virginia Intermont College...................................        <10
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University............        <10
Virginia State University....................................        <10
Virginia Union University....................................        <10
Virginia University of Lynchburg.............................        <10
Vista College................................................        <10
Vogue Beauty and Barber School...............................        <10
Vogue College School of Hair Design #16......................        <10
Voorhees University..........................................        <10
Wade College.................................................        <10
Wade Gordon Hairdressing Academy.............................        <10
Wagner College...............................................        <10
Wake Forest University.......................................        <10
Walla Walla Community College................................        <10
Walnut Hill College..........................................        <10
Walsh College of Accountancy & Business Administration.......        <10
Walsh University.............................................        <10
Warner Pacific University....................................        <10
Warren County Career Center..................................        <10
Wartburg College.............................................        <10
Washington Adventist University..............................        <10
Washington Bible College.....................................        <10
Washington University in St. Louis...........................        <10
Watkins College of Art, Design & Film........................        <10
Wayne State College..........................................        <10
Wayne State University.......................................        <10
Waynesburg University........................................        <10
Waynesville Career Center....................................        <10
Webb's Barber School of Arts.................................        <10
Wentworth Institute of Technology............................        <10
Wesleyan College.............................................        <10
West Coast University........................................        <10
West Liberty University......................................        <10
West Texas A&M University....................................        <10
West Virginia Business College...............................        <10
West Virginia University.....................................        <10
West Virginia University--Parkersburg........................        <10
Westech College..............................................        <10
Western Area Career & Technology Center......................        <10
Western Beauty Institute.....................................        <10
Western Connecticut State University.........................        <10
Western Governors University.................................        <10
Western Nevada College.......................................        <10
Western Oregon University....................................        <10
Western Piedmont Community College...........................        <10
Western Seminary.............................................        <10
Western University of Health Sciences........................        <10
Western Washington University................................        <10
Westfield State University...................................        <10
WestMed College..............................................        <10
Westminster University.......................................        <10
Westmoreland County Community College........................        <10
Wharton County Junior College................................        <10
Wichita State University Campus of Applied Sciences and              <10
 Technology..................................................
Wichita Technical Institute..................................        <10
Willamette University........................................        <10
William James College........................................        <10
William Peace University.....................................        <10
William Penn University......................................        <10
Williams Baptist University..................................        <10
Wilmington College...........................................        <10
Wingate University...........................................        <10
Wisconsin Lutheran College...................................        <10
Wittenberg University........................................        <10
Wolford College..............................................        <10
Women's Techl Institute......................................        <10
Woodbury University..........................................        <10
Worcester Polytechnic Institute..............................        <10
Worcester State University...................................        <10
Xavier University............................................        <10
Xavier University of Louisiana...............................        <10
Yakima Valley College........................................        <10
Yale University..............................................        <10
Yavapai College..............................................        <10
Yeshiva University...........................................        <10
York College of Pennsylvania.................................        <10
Yorktowne Business Institute.................................        <10
                                                              ----------
      Grand Total............................................      7,700
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                  Total Closed Cases By Primary School
                           As of May 31, 2024
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 Case counts and totals are rounded to the nearest ten and redacted for
                          values less than 10.
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                                                                  Case
                        Primary School                           Count
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ITT Technical Institute......................................      1,830
Heald College................................................      1,700
Altierus Career College......................................      1,530
Everest College..............................................      1,510
University of Phoenix........................................        790
Everest Institute............................................        710
WyoTech......................................................        630
DeVry University.............................................        590
Everest University...........................................        280
Sanford-Brown College........................................        210
Altierus Career Education....................................        170
Argosy University............................................        170
Purdue University Global.....................................        170
Marinello School of Beauty...................................        150
University of Arizona Global Campus (The)....................        150
Bryman College...............................................        110
Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts......................        110
American InterContinental University.........................        100
Brightwood College...........................................        100
Virginia College.............................................        100
Westwood College--Denver North...............................        100
Art Institute of Las Vegas (The).............................         90
Brooks Institute.............................................         90
South University.............................................         90
Westwood College--Los Angeles................................         90
Everest College Phoenix......................................         80
Walden University............................................         80
Art Institute of Pittsburgh (The)............................         70
Capella University...........................................         70
Colorado Technical University................................         70
Everest University--Pompano Beach............................         70
Florida Coastal School of Law................................         70
Grand Canyon University......................................         70
Illinois Institute of Art (The)..............................         70
Keller Graduate School of Management.........................         70
Art Institute of Atlanta (The)...............................         60
Ross University, School of Medicine..........................         60
Anthem College...............................................         50
Strayer University...........................................         50
Art Institute of California--Los Angeles (The)...............         40
Daniel Webster College.......................................         40
DeVry Institute of Technology................................         40
Keiser University............................................         40
Las Vegas College............................................         40
Lincoln Technical Institute..................................         40
Miami International University of Art & Design...............         40
New England Institute of Art (The)...........................         40
Vatterott College............................................         40
American Career Institute....................................         30
Art Institute of California--San Diego.......................         30
Art Institute of Philadelphia (The)..........................         30
Art Institutes International Minnesota (The).................         30
ATI Career Training Center...................................         30
Bryman School of Arizona (The)...............................         30
Career Point College.........................................         30
Carrington College...........................................         30
Chamberlain University.......................................         30
Charlotte School of Law......................................         30
Empire Beauty School.........................................         30
Fortis College...............................................         30
Heritage College.............................................         30
Lincoln College of Technology................................         30
Medtech College..............................................         30
Minnesota School of Business.................................         30
Regency Beauty Institute.....................................         30
Ross University School of Veterinary Medicine................         30
Star Career Academy..........................................         30
Westwood College--O'Hare Airport.............................         30
Westwood College--South Bay..................................         30
Wright Career College........................................         30
American College for Medical Careers.........................         20
American National University.................................         20
Art Institute of Colorado (The)..............................         20
Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale (The).......................         20
Art Institute of Portland (The)..............................         20
Art Institute of Seattle (The)...............................         20
Brightwood Career Institute..................................         20
Brown Mackie College-Cincinnati..............................         20
Chicago School of Professional Psychology....................         20
Concorde Career College......................................         20
Florida Career College.......................................         20
Full Sail University.........................................         20
Globe University.............................................         20
Harrison College.............................................         20
Independence University......................................         20
ITT Technical Institute......................................         20
Kaplan College...............................................         20
Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts in Chicago...........         20
Liberty University...........................................         20
Remington College............................................         20
United Education Institute...................................         20
Universal Technical Institute................................         20
American Career College......................................         10
American Public University System............................         10
American University of the Caribbean.........................         10
Anthem Institute.............................................         10
Arizona Summit Law School....................................         10
Art Institute of California-Hollywood (The)..................         10
Art Institute of Houston (The)...............................         10
Art Institute of New York City (The).........................         10
Baker College................................................         10
Berkeley College.............................................         10
Brooks College...............................................         10
Brown Mackie College.........................................         10
Brown Mackie College-South Bend..............................         10
Centura College..............................................         10
Collins College..............................................         10
Dade Medical College.........................................         10
Daymar College...............................................         10
Drake College of Business....................................         10
ECPI University..............................................         10
Florida Technical College....................................         10
Hallmark Institute of Photography............................         10
Harris School of Business....................................         10
ICDC College.................................................         10
Kaplan Career Institute......................................         10
Katharine Gibbs School.......................................         10
Le Cordon Bleu Institute of Culinary Arts....................         10
McCann School of Business & Technology.......................         10
Miller-Motte Technical College...............................         10
Sanford-Brown Institute......................................         10
Southern New Hampshire University............................         10
Ultimate Medical Academy.....................................         10
Western International University.............................         10
Westwood College--DuPage.....................................         10
Wilfred Academy Of Hair & Beauty Culture.....................         10
A. T. Still University of Health Sciences....................        <10
Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College.........................        <10
Academy College..............................................        <10
Academy for Nursing and Health Occupations...................        <10
Academy of Art University....................................        <10
Academy of Business Careers..................................        <10
Academy of Cosmetology.......................................        <10
Academy of Court Reporting and Technology....................        <10
Academy of Esthetics and Cosmetology.........................        <10
Academy of Stenographic Arts.................................        <10
ACT College..................................................        <10
Adams State University.......................................        <10
Adelphi Business College.....................................        <10
Adelphi Technical Institute..................................        <10
Adelphi University...........................................        <10
Advance Beauty Techs Academy.................................        <10
Advanced College.............................................        <10
Advanced Technology Institute................................        <10
Alabama Agricultural & Mechanical University.................        <10
Alabama State University.....................................        <10
Alameda Technical College....................................        <10
Albany College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences...............        <10
Albany State University......................................        <10
Albany Technical College.....................................        <10
Albert Merrill School........................................        <10
Albizu University............................................        <10
Alfred University............................................        <10
All American Career College..................................        <10
Allegheny College............................................        <10
Allen School.................................................        <10
Alliance University..........................................        <10
Alliant International University.............................        <10
Allied American University...................................        <10
Allied Medical and Technical Institute.......................        <10
All-State Career.............................................        <10
Alvareita's College of Cosmetology...........................        <10
Alverno College..............................................        <10
American Academy of Art College..............................        <10
American Academy of Cosmetology..............................        <10
American Academy of Hair Design..............................        <10
American Academy of Personal Training........................        <10
American Bartenders School...................................        <10
American Beauty Academy......................................        <10
American Beauty College......................................        <10
American Business Institute..................................        <10
American Business Institute (Closed).........................        <10
American Career Academy......................................        <10
American Career Training Travel School.......................        <10
American Center for Technical Arts & Sciences................        <10
American College.............................................        <10
American College of Barbering................................        <10
American College of Education................................        <10
American College of Hairstyling-Des Moines...................        <10
American College of Medical Technology.......................        <10
American Commercial College..................................        <10
American Health Institute....................................        <10
American Institute...........................................        <10
American Institute of Alternative Medicine...................        <10
American Institute of Trucking...............................        <10
American International College...............................        <10
American National College....................................        <10
American River College.......................................        <10
American School of Cosmetology...............................        <10
American School of Technology................................        <10
American University (The)....................................        <10
American University of Antigua College of Medicine...........        <10
American Vocational Center...................................        <10
Amridge University...........................................        <10
Ams College Home Study Division..............................        <10
Anamarc College..............................................        <10
Anne Arundel Community College...............................        <10
Antelope Valley College......................................        <10
Antioch University...........................................        <10
Antonelli College............................................        <10
Antonelli Institute..........................................        <10
Apex Technical School........................................        <10
Appalachian State University.................................        <10
Arizona Academy of Beauty....................................        <10
Arizona Automotive Institute.................................        <10
Arizona Institute of Electrolysis Div Unif School of AM......        <10
Arizona State University.....................................        <10
Arkansas Baptist College.....................................        <10
Arkansas Beauty College......................................        <10
Arkansas Tech University.....................................        <10
Art Institute of Charlotte (The).............................        <10
Art Institute of Dallas (The)................................        <10
Art Institute of Tucson (The)................................        <10
Art Institute of York (The)--Pennsylvania....................        <10
Art of Beauty College........................................        <10
Arthur's Beauty College......................................        <10
Artistic Nails & Beauty Academy..............................        <10
ASA College..................................................        <10
Ashland University...........................................        <10
Aspen University.............................................        <10
ASPIRA City College..........................................        <10
Associated Business Careers..................................        <10
Associated Technical College.................................        <10
ATA College..................................................        <10
ATI- Career Training Center..................................        <10
ATI College of Health........................................        <10
ATI Technical Training Center................................        <10
Atlanta Medical Institute....................................        <10
Atlanta Metropolitan State College...........................        <10
Atlanta University...........................................        <10
Atlanta's John Marshall Law School...........................        <10
Auburn University............................................        <10
Auburn University Montgomery.................................        <10
Augusta Technical College....................................        <10
Aurora University............................................        <10
Austin Business College......................................        <10
Austin College...............................................        <10
Austin Community College.....................................        <10
Avalon Institute.............................................        <10
Ave Maria School of Law......................................        <10
Ave Maria University.........................................        <10
Aveda Arts & Sciences Institute Covington....................        <10
Aveda Institute--Fort Myers..................................        <10
Aveda Institute Boise........................................        <10
Aviation Institute Of Maintenance............................        <10
Avtech Institute.............................................        <10
Bacone College...............................................        <10
Bailie School of Broadcast...................................        <10
Bainbridge State College.....................................        <10
Baker University.............................................        <10
Baldwin Wallace University...................................        <10
Ball State University........................................        <10
Baltimore City Community College.............................        <10
Barber--Scotia College.......................................        <10
Barclay Career School........................................        <10
Barclay College..............................................        <10
Barnard College..............................................        <10
Barry University.............................................        <10
Barstow Community College....................................        <10
Barton County Community College..............................        <10
Baton Rouge Community College................................        <10
Bauder College...............................................        <10
Bauder College Specializing in Career Education..............        <10
Bay Area Medical Academy.....................................        <10
Bay State College............................................        <10
Baylor University............................................        <10
Beaufort County Community College............................        <10
Beauty Institute (The).......................................        <10
Beauty Institute Schwarzkopf Professional (The)..............        <10
Beauty Schools of America....................................        <10
Becker College...............................................        <10
Beckfield College............................................        <10
Bel--Rea Institute of Animal Technology......................        <10
Bellevue College.............................................        <10
Bellevue University..........................................        <10
Belmont University...........................................        <10
Benedict Business Institute..................................        <10
Bene's Career Academy........................................        <10
Benjamin Franklin Cummings Institute.........................        <10
Bentley University...........................................        <10
Berks Technical Institute....................................        <10
Bethel University............................................        <10
Big Bend Community College...................................        <10
Big Sandy Community and Technical College....................        <10
BioHealth College............................................        <10
Black Hills State University.................................        <10
Blackhawk Technical College..................................        <10
Blinn College................................................        <10
Bloomfield College...........................................        <10
Blue Cliff Career College....................................        <10
Blue Cliff College...........................................        <10
Blue Ridge Community and Technical College...................        <10
Blue Ridge Community College.................................        <10
Boca Beauty Academy..........................................        <10
Boise State University.......................................        <10
Bonnie Joseph Academy of Cosmetology & Barbering.............        <10
Boricua College..............................................        <10
Bossier Parish Community College.............................        <10
Boston College...............................................        <10
Boston University............................................        <10
Boulder Valley Region #2 Public School District..............        <10
Bowie State University.......................................        <10
Bowling Green State University...............................        <10
Bradford College.............................................        <10
Bradford School..............................................        <10
Bradley University...........................................        <10
Bramson ORT College..........................................        <10
Branell Institute............................................        <10
Branford Hall Career Institute...............................        <10
Braxton School of Business...................................        <10
Brazosport Junior College....................................        <10
Briarcliffe College..........................................        <10
Brittany Beauty Academy......................................        <10
Brittany Beauty School.......................................        <10
Broadview College............................................        <10
Brookline College............................................        <10
Brookstone College of Business...............................        <10
Broward College..............................................        <10
Brown Mackie College (the -).................................        <10
Brown Mackie College-Findlay.................................        <10
Brown Mackie College-Louisville..............................        <10
Brown Mackie College-Merrillville............................        <10
Brown Mackie College-North Canton............................        <10
Bryan College................................................        <10
Bryan Institute..............................................        <10
Bryan University.............................................        <10
Bryant & Stratton Business Institute--Rochester..............        <10
Bryant & Stratton College....................................        <10
Bryant and Stratton College..................................        <10
Bryman School................................................        <10
Buchanan Beauty College......................................        <10
Buckner Barber School........................................        <10
Bunker Hill Community College................................        <10
Burlington College...........................................        <10
Business Career Training Institute...........................        <10
Business Etcetera Institute of Technology....................        <10
Business Informatics Center..................................        <10
Butler Business School.......................................        <10
Butler County Community College..............................        <10
Cabot College................................................        <10
CALC, Institute of Technology................................        <10
Caldwell Community College & Technical Institute.............        <10
Calhoun Community College....................................        <10
Caliber Training Institute...................................        <10
California Aeronautical University...........................        <10
California Baptist University................................        <10
California College of the Arts...............................        <10
California College of Vocational Careers.....................        <10
California College San Diego.................................        <10
California Northstate University.............................        <10
California Polytechnic State University......................        <10
California School of Court Reporting.........................        <10
California State University--Sacramento......................        <10
California State University Channel Islands..................        <10
California State University, East Bay........................        <10
California State University, Fresno..........................        <10
California State University, Long Beach......................        <10
California State University, Los Angeles.....................        <10
California State University, Northridge......................        <10
California State University, San Marcos......................        <10
Cambria-Rowe Business College................................        <10
Cambridge College of Healthcare & Technology.................        <10
Cambridge Techl Inst.........................................        <10
Cameo College of Essential Beauty............................        <10
Campbell University..........................................        <10
Canada College...............................................        <10
Canisius University of Buffalo, New York.....................        <10
Cape Fear Community College..................................        <10
Capitol City Careers.........................................        <10
Capitol City Junior College..................................        <10
Capitol City Trade & Technical School........................        <10
Capri Institute of Hair Design...............................        <10
Cardinal Stritch University..................................        <10
Career Academy of Beauty.....................................        <10
Career Care Institute........................................        <10
Career Colleges of America...................................        <10
Career Colleges of Chicago...................................        <10
Career Institute of Health and Technology....................        <10
Career Point Business School.................................        <10
Career Quest Learning Centers................................        <10
Career Technical College.....................................        <10
Career Training Academy......................................        <10
Career Training Center.......................................        <10
Careercom College of Business................................        <10
Careers Unlimited............................................        <10
Carlow University............................................        <10
Carnegie Career College......................................        <10
Carnegie Institute...........................................        <10
Carousel Beauty College......................................        <10
Carson City Beauty Academy...................................        <10
Case Western Reserve University..............................        <10
Cashier Training Institute...................................        <10
Casper College...............................................        <10
Cayuga Community College.....................................        <10
Cazenovia College............................................        <10
CBM Education Center.........................................        <10
CCIC Beauty College..........................................        <10
CDA Technical Institute......................................        <10
CDE Career Institute.........................................        <10
CDI Career Development Institute.............................        <10
Cedar Valley College.........................................        <10
Center for Employment Training...............................        <10
Central Alabama Community College............................        <10
Central Carolina Technical College...........................        <10
Central Community College....................................        <10
Central Florida Institute....................................        <10
Central Georgia Technical College............................        <10
Central Michigan University..................................        <10
Central New Mexico Community College.........................        <10
Central Ohio Technical College...............................        <10
Central State University.....................................        <10
Central Texas College District...............................        <10
Central Washington University................................        <10
Century College..............................................        <10
Cerritos Community College...................................        <10
Chancellor University........................................        <10
Chapman University...........................................        <10
Charles A. Jones Career and Education Center.................        <10
Charles Stewart Mott Community College.......................        <10
Charmayne Beauty Academy.....................................        <10
Charter College..............................................        <10
Chase College................................................        <10
Chattahoochee Technical College..............................        <10
Chattanooga College--Medical, Dental and Technical Careers...        <10
Chemeketa Community College..................................        <10
Cheseapeake Business Inst of Virginia........................        <10
Chester Career College.......................................        <10
Chester College of New England...............................        <10
Cheyney University of Pennsylvania...........................        <10
Chicago State University.....................................        <10
Chowan University............................................        <10
Chris' Beauty College........................................        <10
Christine Valmy International School forEsthetics, Skin Care         <10
 & Make-up...................................................
Cincinnati Metropolitan College..............................        <10
Cincinnati State Technical & Community College...............        <10
CIT College of InfoMedical Technology........................        <10
City College.................................................        <10
City College of San Francisco................................        <10
Clark Atlanta University.....................................        <10
Clark College................................................        <10
Clark State College..........................................        <10
Clearwater Christian College.................................        <10
Cleveland Chiropractic College...............................        <10
Cleveland Clinic Educational Fndtn Schoolof Radiologic               <10
 Therapy Techlgy.............................................
Cleveland Institute of Art (The).............................        <10
Cleveland Institute of Technology............................        <10
Cleveland University-Kansas City.............................        <10
Clover Park Technical College................................        <10
Coast Career Institute.......................................        <10
Coastal Alabama Community College............................        <10
Coastal Pines Technical College..............................        <10
Cobb Beauty College..........................................        <10
Coconino County Community College............................        <10
Coleman University...........................................        <10
College of Court Reporting...................................        <10
College of Eastern Idaho.....................................        <10
College of Health Care Professions (The).....................        <10
College of New Rochelle (The)................................        <10
College of Office Technology (The)...........................        <10
College of Saint Mary........................................        <10
College of Saint Rose........................................        <10
College of Southern Idaho....................................        <10
College of Southern Nevada...................................        <10
College of Staten Island/CUNY................................        <10
College of the Mainland......................................        <10
CollegeAmerica--Flagstaff....................................        <10
CollegeAmerica Denver........................................        <10
Collin County Community College District.....................        <10
Colorado Mesa University.....................................        <10
Colorado State University....................................        <10
Columbia College.............................................        <10
Columbia College Chicago.....................................        <10
Columbia Southern University.................................        <10
Columbia State Community College.............................        <10
Columbia University in the City of New York..................        <10
Columbus College of Art & Design.............................        <10
Columbus State Community College.............................        <10
Commercial College of Shreveport.............................        <10
Commercial Trades Inst.......................................        <10
Commonwealth International University........................        <10
Commonwealth University of Pennsylvania......................        <10
Community College of Baltimore County........................        <10
Community College of Philadelphia............................        <10
Compass College of Cinematic Arts............................        <10
Computer Learning Center.....................................        <10
Computer Learning Center of Alexandria.......................        <10
Computer Learning Center of Anaheim..........................        <10
Computer Learning Centers Chicago............................        <10
Computer Learning Centers Los Angeles........................        <10
Computer Systems Institute...................................        <10
Concho Career Institute......................................        <10
Concord Law School...........................................        <10
Concorde Career Institute....................................        <10
Concordia College Alabama....................................        <10
Concordia University.........................................        <10
Concordia University--Saint Paul.............................        <10
Connelley Technical Institute & Adult Education Center.......        <10
Consolidated School of Business..............................        <10
Consumer Electronics Training Center.........................        <10
Continental School of Beauty Culture.........................        <10
Cornell College..............................................        <10
Cornerstone University.......................................        <10
Cortiva Institute............................................        <10
Cortiva Institute--Seattle...................................        <10
Cosumnes River College.......................................        <10
County Schools Home Study....................................        <10
Court Reporting Institute of St Louis........................        <10
Court Reporting Institute,Inc................................        <10
Covenant College.............................................        <10
Coyne College................................................        <10
Crandall Junior College......................................        <10
Creighton University.........................................        <10
Crescent City School of Gaming & Bartending..................        <10
Crowder College..............................................        <10
Crown College................................................        <10
Cuesta College...............................................        <10
Culinary Institute of New Orleans............................        <10
Cumberland County College....................................        <10
CUNY Borough of Manhattan Community College..................        <10
CUNY Bronx Community College.................................        <10
CUNY Brooklyn College........................................        <10
CUNY John Jay College of Criminal Justice....................        <10
CUNY Lehman College..........................................        <10
CUNY Medgar Evers College....................................        <10
Curry College................................................        <10
Cutting Edge Hairstyling Academy.............................        <10
Cuyahoga Community College...................................        <10
Dakota State University......................................        <10
Dalenas College of Beauty....................................        <10
Dallas Baptist University....................................        <10
Dallas College...............................................        <10
Dallas Court Reporting College...............................        <10
Dallas Institute of Funeral Service..........................        <10
Dallas Theological Seminary..................................        <10
Darton State College.........................................        <10
Davenport University.........................................        <10
Day Spa Career College.......................................        <10
Dayton Barber College........................................        <10
Daytona College..............................................        <10
Daytona State College........................................        <10
De Anza Community College....................................        <10
Debbies School of Beauty Culture.............................        <10
Decker College...............................................        <10
Del Mar College..............................................        <10
Delaware County Community College............................        <10
Delaware County Institute of Training........................        <10
Delaware State University....................................        <10
Delta Career Institute.......................................        <10
Delta College of Business & Technology.......................        <10
Delta School of Business and Technology......................        <10
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Fountainhead College of Technology...........................        <10
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Framingham State University..................................        <10
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Hypnosis Motivation Institute................................        <10
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Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana........................        <10
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Krissler Business Institute..................................        <10
L T International Beauty School..............................        <10
LA College International.....................................        <10
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La Jean's Beauty & Etiquette College.........................        <10
Lab Paul Mitchell Partner School (The).......................        <10
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L'Academie de Cuisine........................................        <10
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Lacy Cosmetology School......................................        <10
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Massage Therapy Institute of Colorado........................        <10
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Ozarks Technical Community College...........................        <10
PACE UNIV ALL CAMPUSES.......................................        <10
Pace University..............................................        <10
Pacific Coast College........................................        <10
Pacific College of Health and Science........................        <10
Pacific Oaks College.........................................        <10
Pacific Travel Trade School..................................        <10
Paine College................................................        <10
Palm Beach State College.....................................        <10
Palomar College..............................................        <10
Paris Junior College.........................................        <10
Park Avenue School of Cosmetology............................        <10
Park University..............................................        <10
Park West Barber School......................................        <10
Parkland College.............................................        <10
Pasadena City College........................................        <10
Pasco--Hernando State College................................        <10
Passaic County Community College.............................        <10
Pat Goins Benton Road Beauty School..........................        <10
Patsy And Rob's Academy of Beauty............................        <10
Paul Mitchell the School--Little Rock........................        <10
Paul Mitchell the School--Louisville.........................        <10
Paul Mitchell The School Costa Mesa..........................        <10
Paul Mitchell the School Green Bay...........................        <10
Paul Mitchell the School Roanoke.............................        <10
Paul Mitchell The School Tinley Park.........................        <10
PCCenter.....................................................        <10
PCI Health Training Center...................................        <10
Pearl River Community College................................        <10
Pellissippi State Community College..........................        <10
Pennco Tech..................................................        <10
Pennsylvania College of Technology...........................        <10
Pennsylvania Highlands Community College.....................        <10
Pennsylvania School Of Business..............................        <10
Pennsylvania State University (The)..........................        <10
Pensacola School of Massage Therapy & Health Careers.........        <10
Pensacola State College......................................        <10
Pepperdine University........................................        <10
Phillips Business School.....................................        <10
Phillips College of Chicago..................................        <10
Phillips Colleges............................................        <10
Phillips Junior College......................................        <10
Phillips Junior College At Birmingham........................        <10
Phoenix Educational Systems of Pensacola.....................        <10
Piedmont Technical College...................................        <10
Piedmont University..........................................        <10
Pierce College...............................................        <10
Pierpont Community & Technical College.......................        <10
Pikes Peak State College.....................................        <10
Pima County Community College................................        <10
Pima Medical Institute.......................................        <10
Pinchot University...........................................        <10
Pinellas Technical College--Clearwater Campus................        <10
Pinnacle College.............................................        <10
Pitt Community College.......................................        <10
Pittsburgh Career Institute..................................        <10
Pittsburgh Technical College.................................        <10
Pivot Point Academy..........................................        <10
Platt College................................................        <10
Platt College--San Diego.....................................        <10
Plaza Beauty School..........................................        <10
Plaza College................................................        <10
Plaza Three Academy..........................................        <10
Point Park University........................................        <10
Point University.............................................        <10
Polytechnic Institute........................................        <10
Pontiac Business Institute...................................        <10
Porter and Chester Institute.................................        <10
Porterville College..........................................        <10
Portland Community College...................................        <10
Post University..............................................        <10
Poteau Beauty College........................................        <10
Prairie View Agricultural & Mechanical University............        <10
Praxis Institute.............................................        <10
Presbyterian College.........................................        <10
Prince George's Community College............................        <10
Printing Trades School.......................................        <10
Prism Career Institute.......................................        <10
Pro Career Center............................................        <10
Professional Business School.................................        <10
Professional Career Centers..................................        <10
Professional Career College..................................        <10
Professional Careers Institute...............................        <10
Professional Skills Institute................................        <10
Prospect Hall School of Business.............................        <10
PSI Institute................................................        <10
PSI Institute of Washington..................................        <10
PTC Career Institue of Washington............................        <10
PTC Career Institute.........................................        <10
Pulse Beauty Academy.........................................        <10
Purdue University............................................        <10
Purdue University Northwest..................................        <10
Quincy College...............................................        <10
Quinebaug Valley Community College...........................        <10
Quinnipiac University........................................        <10
Radians College..............................................        <10
Rancho Arroyo Vocational Technical Institute.................        <10
Rasmussen College............................................        <10
Rasmussen University.........................................        <10
Real Barbers College (The)...................................        <10
Refrigeration School (The)...................................        <10
Regency Beauty Institute--Cleveland..........................        <10
Regent University............................................        <10
Regina's College of Beauty...................................        <10
Regis University.............................................        <10
Remington College--Cleveland Campus..........................        <10
Remington College--Mobile Campus.............................        <10
Remington College--New Orleans Campus........................        <10
Remington College--Tampa Campus..............................        <10
Reno Junior College of Business..............................        <10
Revell Training Center.......................................        <10
Richard Bland College........................................        <10
Richard J Daley College-City Colleges of Chicago.............        <10
Ridgewater College...........................................        <10
Ridley-Lowell Business & Technical Institute.................        <10
Ridley-Lowell School of Business.............................        <10
Robert Fiance Hair Design Inst...............................        <10
Robert Fiance Institute of Florida...........................        <10
Robert Morris College........................................        <10
Robert Morris University.....................................        <10
Robert Morris University Illinois............................        <10
Roberts Walsh Business School................................        <10
Rochester Community and Technical College....................        <10
Rocky Mountain College of Art + Design.......................        <10
Roger Williams University....................................        <10
Rogers State University......................................        <10
Rollins College..............................................        <10
Roosevelt University.........................................        <10
Rosedale Technical College...................................        <10
Ross Medical Education Center................................        <10
Rosston College..............................................        <10
Roswell College of Cosmetology...............................        <10
Rowan University.............................................        <10
Roxbury Community College....................................        <10
Roy Jorgensen Associates Truck Driving School................        <10
Royal Beauty Careers.........................................        <10
Royale College of Beauty and Barbering.......................        <10
RTP Hispanic American College................................        <10
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey..................        <10
SABER College................................................        <10
Saddleback College...........................................        <10
SAE Expression College.......................................        <10
SAE Institute of Technology, Los Angeles.....................        <10
SAE Institute of Technology, New York........................        <10
Saginaw Valley State University..............................        <10
Saint Ambrose University.....................................        <10
Saint Augustine's University.................................        <10
Saint Elizabeth University...................................        <10
Saint Francis College........................................        <10
Saint Gregory's University...................................        <10
Saint John's University......................................        <10
Saint Joseph's College.......................................        <10
Saint Joseph's University....................................        <10
Saint Leo University.........................................        <10
Saint Louis Community College................................        <10
Saint Paul College--A Community & Technical College..........        <10
Saint Peter's University.....................................        <10
Saint Thomas University......................................        <10
Saint Vincent College & Seminary.............................        <10
Saint Xavier University......................................        <10
Salem State University.......................................        <10
Salem University.............................................        <10
Salon Academy (The)..........................................        <10
Salon Professional Academy (The).............................        <10
Salt Lake Community College..................................        <10
Sam Houston State University.................................        <10
Samford University...........................................        <10
San Antonio College..........................................        <10
San Bernardino Beauty College................................        <10
San Bernardino Valley College................................        <10
San Diego Christian College..................................        <10
San Diego Miramar College....................................        <10
San Diego State University...................................        <10
San Francisco Art Institute..................................        <10
San Francisco State University...............................        <10
San Joaquin Valley College...................................        <10
Santa Ana College............................................        <10
Santa Barbara Business College...............................        <10
Santa Barbara City College...................................        <10
Santa Fe College.............................................        <10
Santa Fe University of Art and Design........................        <10
Sanz Secretarial School......................................        <10
Sarasota School of Massage Therapy...........................        <10
Savannah College of Art and Design...........................        <10
Savannah River College.......................................        <10
Savannah State University....................................        <10
Savannah Technical College...................................        <10
Sawyer College at Ponoma.....................................        <10
Sawyer School................................................        <10
Sawyer School (The)..........................................        <10
Sawyer School of Business....................................        <10
Saybrook University..........................................        <10
SBI Campus--an affiliate of Sanford-Brown....................        <10
Schenectady County Community College.........................        <10
School of Communication Arts of North Carolina...............        <10
School of Visual Arts........................................        <10
Schreiner University.........................................        <10
Scioto County Career Technical Center........................        <10
SCS Business and Technical Institute.........................        <10
Seattle Pacific University...................................        <10
Seminole State College of Florida............................        <10
Seton Hall University........................................        <10
Shear Finesse Beauty Academy.................................        <10
Shepherd University..........................................        <10
Sierra Valley College of Court Reporting.....................        <10
Simdex Techl Inst............................................        <10
Simmons University...........................................        <10
SIT..........................................................        <10
Skagit Valley College........................................        <10
Skelly Beauty Admy...........................................        <10
Skyline College..............................................        <10
Skyline College--Richmond....................................        <10
Smith Chason College.........................................        <10
Sojourner-Douglass College...................................        <10
Somerset Community College...................................        <10
South Bay Trade School.......................................        <10
South Carolina State University..............................        <10
South College................................................        <10
South College-Asheville......................................        <10
South Texas College..........................................        <10
Southeast Community College..................................        <10
Southeast Kentucky Community and Technical College...........        <10
Southeastern Academy.........................................        <10
Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary....................        <10
Southeastern Bible College...................................        <10
Southeastern College.........................................        <10
Southeastern Louisiana University............................        <10
Southeastern University......................................        <10
Southern Career Institute....................................        <10
Southern Careers Institute...................................        <10
Southern Illinois University at Carbondale...................        <10
Southern Illinois University Edwardsville....................        <10
Southern Institute of Cosmetology............................        <10
Southern New Jersey Technical School.........................        <10
Southern Technical College...................................        <10
Southern Technical Institute.................................        <10
Southern University and Agricultural & Mechanical Colg at            <10
 Baton Rouge.................................................
Southern University at New Orleans...........................        <10
Southern University at Shreveport--Bossier City..............        <10
Southern West Virginia Community and Technical College.......        <10
Southwest College............................................        <10
Southwest Institute of Healing Arts..........................        <10
Southwest School of Business & Technical Careers.............        <10
Southwest School of Medical Assistants.......................        <10
Southwest University at El Paso..............................        <10
Southwest University of Visual Arts..........................        <10
Southwestern College of Business.............................        <10
Southwestern Community College...............................        <10
Southwestern Community College District......................        <10
Southwestern Illinois College................................        <10
Southwestern Indian Polytechnic Institute....................        <10
Southwestern Law School......................................        <10
Spartan College of Aeronautics and Technology................        <10
Spartanburg Methodist College................................        <10
Specs Howard School of Media Arts............................        <10
Spelman College..............................................        <10
Spencerian College...........................................        <10
Spokane Community College....................................        <10
Spokane Falls Community College..............................        <10
Spoon River College..........................................        <10
Spring Arbor University......................................        <10
Springfield College..........................................        <10
St. Catharine College........................................        <10
St. Joseph's University New York.............................        <10
St. Louis College of Health Careers..........................        <10
St. Mary's University........................................        <10
St. Paul's School of Nursing.................................        <10
St. Petersburg College.......................................        <10
Stage One The Hair School....................................        <10
Stanbridge University........................................        <10
Stanly Community College.....................................        <10
Star Technical Institute.....................................        <10
Stark State College..........................................        <10
State University of New York at Albany.......................        <10
State University of New York at Buffalo......................        <10
State University of New York at Farmingdale..................        <10
State University of New York at New Paltz....................        <10
State University of New York at Oswego (SUNY Oswego).........        <10
State University of New York at Stony Brook..................        <10
Stautzenberger College.......................................        <10
Stenotype Institute of Jacksonville..........................        <10
Stenotype Institute of Springfield...........................        <10
Stephen F Austin State University............................        <10
Stevens Henager College All Campuses.........................        <10
Stevens Institute of Technology..............................        <10
Stevenson University.........................................        <10
Stockton University..........................................        <10
Stone Academy................................................        <10
Stratford School.............................................        <10
Stratford University.........................................        <10
Suburban Technical School....................................        <10
Suffolk County Community College.............................        <10
Sullivan and Cogliano Training Centers.......................        <10
Sullivan College of Technology and Design....................        <10
Sullivan University..........................................        <10
SUM Bible College & Theological Seminary.....................        <10
Summit Academy Opportunities Industrialization Center........        <10
Summit Beauty School.........................................        <10
Summit College...............................................        <10
SUNY Broome Community College................................        <10
SUNY College at Geneseo......................................        <10
SUNY College of Agriculture & Technology at Morrisville......        <10
Superior Training Services...................................        <10
Talladega College............................................        <10
Tallahassee Community College................................        <10
Tarleton State University....................................        <10
Tarrant County College District..............................        <10
Taylor Business Institute....................................        <10
TDDS Technical Institute.....................................        <10
Technical Career Institutes..................................        <10
Temple University............................................        <10
Tenaj Salon Institute........................................        <10
Tennessee Career Institute...................................        <10
Tennessee College of Applied Technology--Murfreesboro........        <10
Tennessee State University...................................        <10
Tennessee Temple University..................................        <10
Tennessee Wesleyan University................................        <10
Texarkana College............................................        <10
Texas A&M University.........................................        <10
Texas A&M University--Kingsville.............................        <10
Texas Barber College.........................................        <10
Texas Chiropractic College...................................        <10
Texas Schools................................................        <10
Texas Southern University....................................        <10
Texas State University.......................................        <10
Texas Tech University........................................        <10
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center.................        <10
Texas Vocational School......................................        <10
Texas Woman's University.....................................        <10
Texcel Career Center.........................................        <10
Thomas College...............................................        <10
Thomas Edison State University...............................        <10
Tidewater Community College..................................        <10
Tiffin University............................................        <10
TIGI Hairdressing Academy Legacy.............................        <10
Tompkins Cortland Community College..........................        <10
TONI&GUY Hairdressing Academy................................        <10
Touro University.............................................        <10
Trainco Bus School...........................................        <10
Transwestern Inst............................................        <10
Treasure Valley Community College............................        <10
Trebas Institute of Rec Arts.................................        <10
Trend Beauty College.........................................        <10
Trend Benders Academy........................................        <10
Trend College................................................        <10
Triangle Tech................................................        <10
Tribeca Flashpoint College...................................        <10
Tricoci University of Beauty Culture.........................        <10
Tri-County Technical College.................................        <10
Trident Technical College....................................        <10
Trident University International.............................        <10
Trinity International University.............................        <10
Tri-State College of Acupuncture.............................        <10
Tri-State Institute of Hair Design...........................        <10
Tri-State Semi Driver Training...............................        <10
Troy University..............................................        <10
Truckee Meadows Community College............................        <10
Tucson College...............................................        <10
Tufts University.............................................        <10
Tulsa Community College......................................        <10
Tulsa Welding School.........................................        <10
Tunxis Community College.....................................        <10
Tuskegee University..........................................        <10
Twin City Beauty College.....................................        <10
Tyler Junior College.........................................        <10
UEI (United Education Institute).............................        <10
UEI College..................................................        <10
Ultissma Beauty Institute (CLOSED)...........................        <10
Unified Schools of America-Compton Campus....................        <10
Union Adventist University...................................        <10
Union Institute & University.................................        <10
Unitech Training Academy.....................................        <10
United Career Center.........................................        <10
United College...............................................        <10
United College of Business...................................        <10
United Schools...............................................        <10
United States International Univ.............................        <10
Unitek College...............................................        <10
Universal Career School......................................        <10
Universidad Ana G. M ndez--Gurabo Campus.....................        <10
Universidad Ana G. Mendez--Cupey Campus......................        <10
Universidad Ana G. Mendez--Gurabo Campus.....................        <10
Universidad del Sagrado Corazon..............................        <10
University of Advancing Computer Technology..................        <10
University of Akron (The)....................................        <10
University of Alabama at Birmingham..........................        <10
University of Arizona (The)..................................        <10
University of Arkansas.......................................        <10
University of Arkansas--Grantham.............................        <10
University of Arkansas--Pulaski Technical College............        <10
University of Arkansas at Fort Smith.........................        <10
University of Arkansas at Monticello.........................        <10
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences..................        <10
University of Bridgeport.....................................        <10
University of California, Berkeley...........................        <10
University of California, Irvine.............................        <10
University of California, Los Angeles........................        <10
University of California, Riverside..........................        <10
University of California, San Diego..........................        <10
University of Central Arkansas...............................        <10
University of Central Florida................................        <10
University of Central Missouri...............................        <10
University of Central Oklahoma...............................        <10
University of Cincinnati.....................................        <10
University of Colorado Colorado Springs......................        <10
University of Colorado Denver................................        <10
University of Connecticut....................................        <10
University of Dayton.........................................        <10
University of Denver.........................................        <10
University of Detroit Mercy..................................        <10
University of Florida........................................        <10
University of Glasgow........................................        <10
University of Hartford.......................................        <10
University of Hawaii at Manoa................................        <10
University of Health Sciences and Pharmacy in St. Louis......        <10
University of Houston........................................        <10
University of Houston--Clear Lake............................        <10
University of Houston--Downtown..............................        <10
University of Illinois Chicago...............................        <10
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign......................        <10
University of Indianapolis...................................        <10
University of Iowa...........................................        <10
University of Kentucky.......................................        <10
University of La Verne.......................................        <10
University of Louisiana at Lafayette.........................        <10
University of Louisiana at Monroe............................        <10
University of Louisville.....................................        <10
University of Lynchburg......................................        <10
University of Maine..........................................        <10
University of Maine--Farmington..............................        <10
University of Management and Technology (The)................        <10
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor.............................        <10
University of Maryland--Baltimore County.....................        <10
University of Maryland--Eastern Shore........................        <10
University of Maryland Global Campus.........................        <10
University of Maryland, Baltimore............................        <10
University of Massachusetts--Dartmouth.......................        <10
University of Massachusetts--Lowell..........................        <10
University of Massachusetts at Boston........................        <10
University of Medicine & Dentistry of New Jersey.............        <10
University of Memphis (The)..................................        <10
University of Miami..........................................        <10
University of Michigan.......................................        <10
University of Michigan--Dearborn.............................        <10
University of Minnesota--Crookston...........................        <10
University of Minnesota Duluth...............................        <10
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities.........................        <10
University of Mississippi....................................        <10
University of Missouri--Columbia.............................        <10
University of Missouri--Kansas City..........................        <10
University of Missouri--Saint Louis..........................        <10
University of Mobile.........................................        <10
University of Montevallo.....................................        <10
University of Nevada , Reno..................................        <10
University of New Haven......................................        <10
University of North Alabama..................................        <10
University of North Carolina--Charlotte......................        <10
University of North Florida..................................        <10
University of North Georgia..................................        <10
University of North Texas....................................        <10
University of Northwestern Ohio..............................        <10
University of Oregon.........................................        <10
University of Oxford--St Catherine's College.................        <10
University of Portland.......................................        <10
University of Rio Grande.....................................        <10
University of Sarasota.......................................        <10
University of Scranton.......................................        <10
University of Silicon Valley.................................        <10
University of South Alabama..................................        <10
University of South Carolina--Columbia.......................        <10
University of South Carolina Upstate.........................        <10
University of South Dakota...................................        <10
University of South Florida..................................        <10
University of Southern California............................        <10
University of Southern Maine.................................        <10
University of Southern Mississippi...........................        <10
University of Southernmost Florida...........................        <10
University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences..............        <10
University of Sydney.........................................        <10
University of Tampa (The)....................................        <10
University of Tennessee......................................        <10
University of Tennessee--Martin..............................        <10
University of Texas at Arlington.............................        <10
University of Texas at Austin................................        <10
University of Texas at Tyler.................................        <10
University of Texas Rio Grande Valley........................        <10
University of the Cumberlands................................        <10
University of the District of Columbia.......................        <10
University of the Incarnate Word.............................        <10
University of the Pacific....................................        <10
University of the Rockies....................................        <10
University of the Virgin Islands.............................        <10
University of Toledo.........................................        <10
University of Utah...........................................        <10
University of Virginia.......................................        <10
University of Washington--Seattle............................        <10
University of West Florida (The).............................        <10
University of West Georgia...................................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Milwaukee...........................        <10
University of Wisconsin--River Falls.........................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Stout...............................        <10
University of Wisconsin--Whitewater..........................        <10
University of Wisconsin Colleges.............................        <10
University of Wyoming........................................        <10
Unknown-School-Name..........................................        <10
Urbana University............................................        <10
USA Training Academy Home Study..............................        <10
Utica School of Commerce.....................................        <10
Utica University.............................................        <10
Valdosta State University....................................        <10
Valencia College.............................................        <10
Valley Commercial College....................................        <10
Valor Christian College......................................        <10
Vanderbilt University........................................        <10
Vantage College--San Antonio.................................        <10
VEEB Nassau County School of Practical Nursing...............        <10
Velvatex College of Beauty Culture...........................        <10
Vernon College...............................................        <10
Verve College................................................        <10
Vet Tech Institute of Houston................................        <10
Victory University...........................................        <10
Video Symphony EnterTraining.................................        <10
Video Technical Institute....................................        <10
Villanova University.........................................        <10
Vincennes University.........................................        <10
Virginia Institute of Technology.............................        <10
Virginia Intermont College...................................        <10
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University............        <10
Virginia State University....................................        <10
Virginia University of Lynchburg.............................        <10
Vista College................................................        <10
Vocational Training Center...................................        <10
Wake Technical Community College.............................        <10
Walsh College of Accountancy & Business Administration.......        <10
Walter Jay M.D. Institute, An Educational Center.............        <10
Wards Corner Beauty Academy..................................        <10
Warner Pacific University....................................        <10
Washington School of Secretaries.............................        <10
Washington State University..................................        <10
Washington University in St. Louis...........................        <10
Washtenaw Community College..................................        <10
Watterson College Pacific....................................        <10
Waubonsee Community College..................................        <10
Wayland Baptist University...................................        <10
Wayne County Community College District......................        <10
Wayne State University.......................................        <10
Webster Career College.......................................        <10
Webster University...........................................        <10
Wesleyan College.............................................        <10
West Chester University of Pennsylvania......................        <10
West Coast University........................................        <10
West Virginia Junior College.................................        <10
West Virginia Northern Community College.....................        <10
West Virginia University.....................................        <10
Westech College..............................................        <10
Western Career College.......................................        <10
Western Governors University.................................        <10
Western Illinois University..................................        <10
Western Michigan University..................................        <10
Western New Mexico University................................        <10
Western Oregon University....................................        <10
Western Piedmont Community College...........................        <10
Western State University College of Law......................        <10
Western Suffolk BOCES........................................        <10
Western Technical College....................................        <10
Westfield State University...................................        <10
Wharton County Junior College................................        <10
Wheeling University..........................................        <10
White Mountains Community College............................        <10
Whittier College.............................................        <10
Widener University...........................................        <10
Wilberforce University.......................................        <10
Wilbur Wright College........................................        <10
Wiley College................................................        <10
Wilfred Academy..............................................        <10
Wilfred Academy of Hair and Beauty Culture...................        <10
Wilfred Academy of Hair Design & Beauty Culture..............        <10
Willfred's Frederic Hairstyling..............................        <10
William Paterson University of New Jersey....................        <10
William Penn University......................................        <10
William Woods University.....................................        <10
Williams Beauty Academy......................................        <10
Willsey Institute............................................        <10
Wilmington University........................................        <10
Wilson Community College.....................................        <10
Wingate University...........................................        <10
Winthrop University..........................................        <10
Wolford College..............................................        <10
Wood Tobe--Coburn School.....................................        <10
Woodbridge Business Institute................................        <10
Wooster Business College.....................................        <10
Worcester State University...................................        <10
Wright State University......................................        <10
Wyoming County Career and Technical Center...................        <10
Wytheville Community College.................................        <10
Xavier University of Louisiana...............................        <10
Yakima Valley College........................................        <10
York Institute...............................................        <10
York St John University......................................        <10
York Technical College.......................................        <10
Yorktowne Business Institute.................................        <10
Youngstown State University..................................        <10
YTI Career Institute--Altoona................................        <10
(blank)......................................................      3,660
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      Grand Total............................................     20,840
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    Question. Please provide the top five reasons that borrower defense 
claims are placed in ``total denied,'' ``total ineligible,'' and 
``total closed.'' Please also provide the number and corresponding 
percentage for borrower defense claims placed in each category.
    Answer.
    As of May 31, 2024, the top five reasons applications have been 
closed were as follows (numbers have been rounded to the nearest 5):

  --No Loans Pre-Adjudication (e.g., no federal loans; loans paid in 
        full; no loans at the applicable school) (14,475 applications 
        or 69%);
  --No Response from Customer (2,275 applications or 11%);
  --Borrower Received an Automatic Closed School Discharge (965 
        applications or 5%);
  --Borrower Requested Case Closure (785 applications or 4%).
  --Incomplete Application (685 applications or 3%)

    As of May 31, 2024, the top five reasons applications were denied/
deemed ineligible were as follows (numbers have been rounded to the 
nearest 5):

  --Post-Class Denial* (5,765 applications or 75%);
  --Sweet Initial Denial** (1,925 applications or 25%);
  --Sweet Resubmit Denial*** (<10 applications or <1%)

    Note:

    Post Class Denial*--Have been reviewed and do not meet the 
regulatory standard for approval under the 2016 regulation.

    Sweet Initial Denial**--Sweet class members whose application when 
through the streamline adjudication process as defined in the Sweet 
settlement, received a revise and resubmit notice, but failed to revise 
and resubmit within the 6 month period.

    Sweet Resubmit Denial***--Sweet class members who filed a revise 
and resubmit application, but did not meet the streamline standard as 
defined by the Sweet settlement.
    Question. The for-profit college industry drastically increased its 
enrollment during the Great Recession. In many cases, low-value 
colleges preyed on out-of-work adults, promising them an education that 
would lead to well-paying jobs--only to leave those students with a 
mountain of debt and no credential of value. Enrollment peaked in 2011 
at more than three million students in the for-profit sector. The 
Harkin investigation, which was conducted by the Senate Committee on 
Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions, showed that students were 
``churned'' through these schools, with more than 50 percent of for-
profit students leaving within 4 months. Schools like Westwood, 
Corinthian, and ITT Tech lied to prospective students about their 
employment outcomes and took their money, only to shutter 
precipitously, leaving those students without good options to complete 
their degrees. The Biden Administration has taken some important steps 
to right those wrongs, discharging student loans for borrowers who were 
not able to graduate. I particularly appreciate that the students from 
Westwood, which closed in 2016, finally have been granted relief. 
However, many other borrowers from many other institutions that 
similarly closed after taking advantage of students have not seen the 
relief they deserve, even when there have been investigations of those 
schools that have found widespread predatory conduct.
    When can borrowers who attended but could not graduate from 
colleges like Charlotte School of Law, Vatterott, schools run by the 
Center for Excellence in Higher Education, schools run by the Dream 
Center, and schools run by Education Corporation of America expect to 
receive the same group relief as students from Westwood?
    Answer. The Department continues to review evidence available to it 
to determine whether additional group discharges are appropriate and 
unfortunately cannot provide additional detail at this time. The 
Department is evaluating evidence while also prioritizing work to 
timely adjudicate the applications as is required by the Sweet 
settlement.
    Question. The Department granted borrower defense discharges for 
borrowers who attended Westwood in August 2022, more than 7 years after 
Westwood precipitously shuttered its doors. While I applaud the 
Department's actions to provide this deserved relief to former Westwood 
students, the notices to Westwood borrowers were not sent out until the 
end of March 2023, 7 months after the Department initially made its 
announcement. As of March 2024--19 months after the announcement--the 
Department reports having processed about 80 percent of those 
discharges.
    Please describe the steps the Department is taking to complete the 
discharges for remaining Westwood borrowers.
    Answer. Federal Student Aid (FSA) provided a list of approved 
borrowers and loans to servicers related to the Westwood group 
discharge with instructions to discharge, refund any payments, and 
delete credit tradelines for approved loans. FSA is working with the 
servicers to complete the remaining Westwood discharges, among other 
approved discharge populations. FSA is also working to reconcile any 
outstanding borrowers to ensure all borrowers receive full relief.
    Question. Please describe any steps the Department has taken to 
communicate with borrowers who have been promised, but have not yet 
received, a loan discharge.
    Answer. Federal Student Aid has not provided any additional 
communications to borrowers beyond the original approval notice sent 
under the group approval for Westwood.
    Question. Please provide an estimated date by which you expect 
these discharges to be completed.
    Answer. Federal Student Aid does not currently have an estimated 
date when we expect remaining discharges to be completed, but we are 
monitoring the situation closely with the loan servicers. Borrowers' 
eligible loans will remain in forbearance until the discharges are 
completed.
    Question. Last month, a court in San Francisco held a hearing on 
the delayed resolution of borrower defense to repayment claims under 
the Department's settlement under Sweet v. Cardona. Under this 
agreement, nearly 300,000 defrauded borrowers are entitled to student 
debt relief because they were defrauded by predatory institutions like 
for-profit colleges.
    Please provide the Department's efforts to use all available legal 
authorities to come into compliance with the Sweet settlement.
    Answer. We believe the declaration provided by Richard Cordray in 
that hearing lays out in significant detail our efforts to ensure that 
borrowers receive the relief to which we have committed. A copy of that 
declaration can be found here.
    Question. In 2021, the Department announced the re-establishment of 
the Office of Enforcement within Office of Federal Student Aid, which 
had been deprioritized under the previous Administration. Over the last 
several months, the Department has been in the process of reorganizing 
the Office of Enforcement and the Office of the Ombudsman to ensure 
adequate oversight of student loan servicers and enforcement of 
borrower rights.
    What is the status of these reorganization efforts? Please provide 
detailed plans of when the Department plans to finalize these efforts.
    Answer. The Department is working to finalize the pending Federal 
Student Aid reorganization as quickly as possible.
    Question. Please provide a list of all institutions for which the 
Department currently holds a letter of credit or other surety and the 
amount of such letter of credit or other surety.
    Answer. A list of financial protections held as of December 31, 
2023, is attached. [The Department provided the attachment to the 
Committee.]
    Question. In March 2022, the Department announced that it would 
begin requiring some private institutions to require signatures from 
their corporate owners on their Program Participation Agreements (PPAs) 
with the Department, particularly for institutions that have a 
demonstrated financial risk. The signatures would ensure that the owner 
remains on the hook for potential taxpayer liabilities, even if the 
institution itself is shuttered. In March 2023, the Department 
broadened the requirement to individual owners of private institutions.
    Has the Department exercised its authority as described in either 
of these electronic announcements (GEN-22-16 and GEN-23-11)? If so, has 
it exercised the authority with respect to any institution that 
shuttered after obtaining the signatures? Were liabilities assessed 
against the individual or corporate owner in any such case?
    Answer. Since issuing electronic announcements GEN-22-16 and GEN-
23-11, the Department has exercised its authority pursuant to 20 U.S.C. 
1099c(e) to require the assumption of liability by owners of 
institutions to protect the financial interest of the United States. 
Because the Department has only recently begun requesting additional 
signatures in new participation agreements, it is not currently aware 
of any recent closures where additional parties signed the agreement 
and for which there are unpaid liabilities.
    Question. Has the Department produced a list of institutions that 
are exempt pursuant to the statute (i.e., private institutions that 
have not been subjected to a limitation, suspension, or termination 
action; have not had an audit finding resulting in a liability of more 
than 5 percent of Title IV program funds in the two most recent audits; 
that meet and have met for the preceding 5 years the Department's 
financial responsibility requirements under Subpart L; and that have 
not been cited for failure to submit timely audits in the preceding 5 
years)? If so, please provide the list to the Committee.
    Answer. The Department has not produced a list of institutions for 
which 20 U.S.C. 1099(e)(4) prohibits it from seeking the assumption of 
liability or financial guarantees from owners as authorized by 20 
U.S.C. 1099c(e)(1). The Department's March 23, 2022, electronic 
announcement on signature requirements for entities exercising 
substantial control over non-public institutions noted that ``the 
Department may require additional signatures on an institution's PPA 
when an institution seeks initial certification or recertification, or 
when it undergoes a change of ownership under 34 CFR Sec. 600.31(a).'' 
It is at these events that the Department, as part of its analysis of 
whether an additional signature should be required, would evaluate the 
institution against the criteria contained in 20 U.S.C. 1099c(e)(4). On 
March 1, 2023, the Department provided additional guidance related to 
establishing personal liability requirements. That announcement notes 
that ``the Department will consider, on a case-by-case, individualized 
basis, a variety of factors in evaluating whether requiring an 
individual exercising substantial control over an institution to assume 
personal liability is necessary to protect the financial interest of 
the United States.'' Likewise, as part of that analysis, the Department 
would evaluate the institution against the criteria contained in 20 
U.S.C. 1099c(e)(4).
    Question. The Department issued new gainful employment regulations 
in October 2023. While those were scheduled to take effect on July 1, 
2024, the Department noted that it would delay reporting requirements 
until October 1, 2024, due to the challenges with the Free Application 
for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) form; that date is likely to slip 
further. In the meantime, the Department has been working on 
implementation by publishing FAQs and issuing an information collection 
request of the data elements it will require to be reported, but it has 
yet to stand up the new data reporting, leaving institutions further 
behind. Please provide a detailed implementation timeline for the 
gainful employment and financial value transparency regulations, 
including the timelines for: expected reporting; updates to the 
Department's data systems; the establishment of an agreement to produce 
earnings data with a Federal agency with earnings data; the production 
of completer lists; the production of debt-to-earnings rate and the 
earnings premium metric; and the launch of the disclosure website.
    Answer. As noted in the electronic announcement, institutions will 
have the ability to Start reporting as soon as July 1, 2024, but they 
must complete all reporting by October 1, 2024. Updates to the National 
Student Loan Data System are being made prior to July 1 so that 
functionality is ready. We anticipate sharing the data reported by 
institutions with the Federal agency after October 1, 2024, with the 
earnings data returned to the Department a few weeks later. We 
anticipate the first publication of rates in January 2025. The launch 
of the disclosure website is not scheduled until July 1, 2026.
    The Department is in the process of negotiating a memorandum of 
understanding that we anticipate finalizing early this summer.
    Question. The Department is required to review and, if appropriate, 
approve the changes in ownership of institutions for those institutions 
to continue receiving Federal student aid. A recent Government 
Accountability Office investigation into the Department's and Internal 
Revenue Service's processes, especially for conversions from for-profit 
to nonprofit tax status and new regulations finalized in Fall 2022, set 
the stage for a more robust process than the Department has previously 
used. However, the extent to which the Department is prepared to place 
conditions on, or even deny, conversions for for-profit colleges is 
unclear. One example already underway is the University of Arizona 
Global Campus (UAGC, formerly Ashford University), which was acquired 
by the public University of Arizona (UA) but has since apparently 
become a major source of taxpayer liabilities.
    Answer. The Department agrees that under section 498(i)(1) and (4) 
of the Higher Education Act of 1965, as amended (HEA) and implementing 
Federal regulations, an eligible institution of higher education that 
has had a change in ownership resulting in a change of control shall 
not qualify to participate the Title IV programs after the change in 
control unless the institution establishes that it meets the 
requirements of section 102 of the HEA. The Department may 
provisionally certify an institution seeking to continue its Title IV 
participation following a change in ownership based on the preliminary 
review of a materially complete application that is received by the 
Department within 10 business days of the change in ownership 
transaction, and the Department may extend the temporary provisional 
certification on a month to month basis until a final decision is 
issued on the institution's application for continued participation. 
See 20 U.S.C. Sec. 1099c(i), and 34 C.F.R. Sec. Sec. 600.20(g), 
600.20(h), and 668.14(g)(1).
    The Department has denied nonprofit conversions for for-profit 
institutions, including two denials of Grand Canyon University's 
(GCU's) nonprofit requests and the denial of the American Academy of 
Art College's nonprofit conversions request that were issued during the 
prior administration. The current administration has defended the 
Department's GCU decision in U.S. district court and in the appellate 
circuit.
    Question. Has the Department applied any conditions to the Title IV 
participation of the University of Arizona Global Campus?
    Answer. Yes. The Department currently allows UAGC to participate 
under a Temporary Provisional Program Participation Agreement (TPPPA) 
that was executed on July 31, 2023, and an Addendum to the TPPPA that 
was executed on July 31, 2023, after the public institution UA became 
the 100% owner of UAGC upon acquiring UAGC's educational assets from 
the nonprofit UA Foundation in a June 30, 2023, change in ownership 
transaction. The nonprofit UA Foundation acquired the assets of UAGC 
(f/k/a Ashford University) from Zovio Inc. (f/k/a Bridgepoint 
Education, Inc.) in an earlier change in ownership transaction. Copies 
of UAGC's current TPPPA and TPPPA Addendum, and the December 20, 2021, 
letter referenced in UAGC's current TPPPA's conditions are provided 
with this response. UAGC's current TPPPA includes the following 
conditions:
  --UAGC's financial statements must be submitted at the UA level and, 
        upon notification, in accordance with a ``school group'' to be 
        established by the Department in the Department's records for 
        the receipt of annual audit reports covering UA and UAGC;
  --Growth restrictions (new programs, new locations, increase level of 
        offering, change length of programs);
  --Biweekly cash balances and monthly reporting of cash budget vs. 
        actual as well as significant events;
  --Monthly student roster submissions;
  --Required reporting of any class action, accreditation or government 
        actions/investigations;
  --Student complaint reporting;
  --Heightened Cash Monitoring 1 (HCM1) condition; and,
  --The notification condition as specified in the Department's 
        December 20, 2021 letter.
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    Question. Has the Department formally assessed liabilities against 
UAGC, and if so, at what amount?
    Answer. No, the Department has not formally assessed liabilities 
against UAGC.
    Question. Does the Department anticipate future liabilities against 
UAGC?
    Answer. The Department does not comment on potential future 
oversight actions nor on open oversight actions until the results have 
been formally communicated to the participating entity.
    Question. What is the total of Title IV dollars held by borrowers 
who have filed a claim for borrower defense to repayment against 
Ashford University?
    Answer. As of June 2024, 13,000 borrowers have filed a claim for 
borrower defense to repayment against Ashford University and still have 
open loans for Ashford University or open consolidation loans 
associated with an Ashford University loan. These borrowers' loans have 
been disbursed for $459 million. Loans which have been discharged, 
forgiven, or paid in full have been excluded. This includes loans from 
any time frame, including loans before March 2009 or after April 2020.
    Question. What is the total of Title IV dollars (not already 
discharged or repaid in full) held by borrowers who attended Ashford 
University between March 2009 and April 2020?
    Answer. As of June 2024, 291,000 borrowers have open loans for 
Ashford University or open consolidation loans associated with an 
Ashford University loan. These borrowers' loans have been disbursed for 
$4.99 billion. Loans which have been discharged, forgiven, or paid in 
full have been excluded. This only includes loans from March 1, 2009 
through April 30, 2020.
    The following four OPE ID were used to respond to this data 
request.


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                OPE ID                    SCHOOL NAME      BRANCH NAME
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00188100..............................  University of    University of
                                         Arizona Global   Arizona Global
                                         Campus (The)     Campus (The)
00188101..............................  University of    University of
                                         Arizona Global   Arizona Global
                                         Campus (The)     Campus--Sauk
                                                          Valley
                                                          Community
                                                          College
00188102..............................  University of    Ashford
                                         Arizona Global   University--Ma
                                         Campus (The)     in Campus
00188103..............................  University of    Ashford
                                         Arizona Global   University--Cl
                                         Campus (The)     inton Campus &
                                                          Online Center
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    Question. This year, the Department is anticipating starting new 
contracts with student loan companies under the new Unified Servicing 
and Data Solution (USDS) system. I am concerned that this transition 
could lead to the transfer of student loans and errors on student loan 
borrower accounts. What steps is the Department taking to ensure that 
servicer accountability remains a priority and that borrowers can 
smoothly resume making payments and access relief programs enacted by 
Congress?
    Answer. One of the major goals of the Unified Servicing and Data 
Solution (USDS) contract with loan servicers is to increase servicer 
accountability and improve the borrower experience. Under the new 
accountability framework, there are detailed mechanisms known as 
service level agreements to hold servicers accountable for their 
portfolio performance and incentivize more support for borrowers at 
risk of delinquency and default. Poor servicer performance under USDS 
will result in corrective actions and, when appropriate, financial 
penalties. The contract also empowers the Department to reward 
servicers who serve borrowers well, especially those borrowers that are 
at-risk. The USDS servicers began work under the new contract on April 
1, 2024.
    Question. This month, the Department and MOHELA began notifying 
borrowers that MOHELA will no longer be the sole servicer charged with 
administering the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program (PSLF) and 
TEACH Grant programs and that administration of such programs will be 
handled by the Department directly. This is misleading and has caused 
borrower confusion since the Department's correspondence also says that 
borrowers ``will remain with their existing servicer.'' Further, MOHELA 
has notified borrowers that it will no longer be saving their records 
or keeping track of payments and encouraged borrowers to take 
``screenshots'' of their accounts prior to April 30 to keep track of 
their progress in anticipation of potential errors.
    Answer. The transition of PSLF and TEACH Grant processing from 
specialty servicers to Federal Student Aid (FSA) is designed to reduce 
processing time, increase FSA's oversight, and improve the borrower 
experience. It is accurate that nearly every borrower will stay with 
their existing loan servicer in USDS, which will handle their day-to-
day loan servicing needs (e.g., making student loan payments). What is 
changing is that the PSLF and TEACH Grant programs and their management 
are being transitioned to FSA's systems and day-to-day control, meaning 
borrowers interested in or participating in these programs will 
interact directly with StudentAid.gov and 1-800-4-FEDAID, not their 
loan servicer. This is no different from other loan processes that 
borrowers perform on StudentAid.gov, like signing promissory notes and 
applying for income-driven repayment plans and consolidation loans. As 
part of this transition, prior to the processing pause FSA recommended 
borrowers save screenshots and correspondence from the MOHELA website 
for their personal records, as that information would no longer be 
available after April 30, 2024. We encouraged borrowers to do so so 
that they could validate that the information they saw on MOHELA's 
website prior to the processing pause conformed with information on 
StudentAid.gov after the pause, as it is important to us for borrowers 
to have appropriate documentation if there are any discrepancies that 
need to be resolved. As of July 1, 2024, the PSLF program has 
successfully transitioned from MOHELA and now is fully managed by the 
Department on StudentAid.gov. We have resumed processing of PSLF forms 
and are currently working to update PSLF payment counts. With the 
updates to our systems and processes, borrowers can now manage their 
progress toward forgiveness under PSLF on StudentAid.gov from start to 
finish, which includes submitting a PSLF form, monitoring the status of 
their PSLF form on the My Activity section of their StudentAid.gov 
account, retrieving correspondence relating to their PSLF form, and 
accessing their payment counts and approved certified employment.
    Question. What is the Department doing to ensure that borrowers are 
made whole if errors are made on their accounts over the course of the 
PSLF processing pause and transfer to the new USDS system?
    Answer. As stated in the previous response, MOHELA transferred 
borrowers' PSLF records to Federal Student Aid (FSA) during the 
processing pause. FSA will retain all these records in their original 
format and convert these records into our systems. FSA also is 
conducting several data simulation exercises to ensure data integrity. 
If there are errors, MOHELA will be required to work closely with FSA 
to research the root cause of any issues uncovered and support any 
necessary corrections or mitigations. Finally, if a borrower disagrees 
with their status now that the pause has ended, they can contact FSA at 
1-800-4-FEDAID or file a complaint in our feedback system on 
StudentAid.gov.
    Question. How will MOHELA handle borrower records over the course 
of the PSLF processing transfer and pause?
    Answer. MOHELA transferred borrowers' PSLF records to Federal 
Student Aid (FSA) during the processing pause. This includes all data 
and images necessary for FSA's systems to populate borrower payment 
counts and resume processing now that the pause has ended. FSA will 
retain these records in their original format and will also convert 
these records into FSA's systems. New applications and supporting 
documents received but not processed by MOHELA during the pause were 
forwarded to FSA for processing following the end of the pause.
    Question. When a borrower disagrees with a qualifying payment 
count, how will they be able to address this disagreement?
    Answer. If a borrower disagrees with their payment counts, they can 
upload a Reconsideration request on StudentAid.gov. They can also 
upload a dispute (in a separate section) on StudentAid.gov.
    Question. How will the Department hold MOHELA accountable for any 
errors that take place during the transfer?
    Answer. As part of the data migration process, Federal Student Aid 
(FSA) conducted multiple production simulation exercises using actual 
data migrated from MOHELA to catch any data quality or processing 
errors introduced by MOHELA. MOHELA is under contract to work closely 
with FSA to research the root cause of any issues uncovered and to 
support any necessary corrections or mitigations.
    Question. Will the unprocessed PSLF applications currently on file 
with MOHELA be transferred to the Department?
    Answer. Federal Student Aid (FSA) continued to collect e-sign and 
e-submit Forms through the PSLF Help Tool on StudentAid.gov throughout 
the pause. Any forms received by MOHELA during the pause were forwarded 
to FSA for processing following the end of the pause.
    Question. Our children are facing a literacy crisis, which is 
worsened by skyrocketing chronic absenteeism. In the 2021-2022 school 
year, 31 percent of students were chronically absent. In Illinois, 28.3 
percent of students were chronically absent in the 2022-2023 school 
year, compared to 17.5 percent in the last full school year prior to 
the pandemic.
    According to the Illinois Policy Institute, ``this rate is 10 
percentage points higher among Illinois' low-income students: 38 
percent missed at least 10 percent of their school days in 2023.'' This 
is deeply concerning as chronic absenteeism is connected to lower 
academic performance in math and reading, negative effects on social 
and emotional development, and lower graduation rates. Research shows 
that chronic absenteeism is most detrimental for our nation's most 
vulnerable students--students of color, students from low-income 
families, students with disabilities, English learners, and homeless 
and foster and youth. I am encouraged by the Department's agenda to 
increase student attendance. Under the Every Student Succeeds Act 
(ESSA), 37 states measure chronic absenteeism as part of their 
accountability systems to reflect school quality and student success.
    How does the Department monitor how states are using this data to 
inform intervention strategies to create supportive learning 
environments that foster a sense of belonging? How are states using 
this data to inform school improvement efforts under ESSA state plans 
to address chronic absenteeism and improve student outcomes?
    Answer. The Department conducts a comprehensive review of an SEA's 
implementation of Title I as part of our ESEA consolidated monitoring 
process. This review evaluates State compliance with all of the 
requirements in Title I, including:
  --Implementation of accountability systems (including the School 
        Quality or Student Success (SQSS) indicators, which includes 
        chronic absenteeism in a majority of States);
  --State and local report cards, including reporting on the SQSS 
        indicators;
  --State oversight and approval of support and improvement plans for 
        schools identified for comprehensive support and improvement 
        (CSI), including State oversight of the requirement for each 
        CSI school to conduct a needs assessment, review all indicator 
        data, and identify evidence-based interventions;
  --State oversight of LEA review, approval, and monitoring processes 
        of plans for schools identified for targeted support and 
        improvement (TSI) and additional targeted support and 
        improvement (ATSI);
  --Use of ESEA section 1003 school improvement funds; and
  --General monitoring and technical assistance for LEAs and schools.
    In addition, in summer 2024, the Department is conducting a Title I 
targeted monitoring activity focused on the implementation of ESEA 
section 1003 school improvement funding requirements in five SEAs. This 
includes how the SEA is awarding funds to LEAs to support identified 
schools, how it is reviewing LEA applications, and how the SEA is 
ensuring that ESEA section 1003 funds are used to support evidence-
based interventions. As part of this review, the Department is asking 
States to identify effective evidence-based interventions that LEAs 
have implemented using section 1003 funds. Several States have provided 
interventions to address chronic absenteeism. For example, Alabama 
implemented a Building Assets, Reducing Risks (BARR) program, which is 
a schoolwide system of strategies focused on building relationships, 
utilizing real-time data, and enabling schools to improve student 
outcomes. Schools implementing BARR reported an increase in student 
attendance and decrease in student misbehavior. Illinois indicated that 
several schools used 1003 school improvement funds to hire attendance 
staff to monitor attendance and liaise with families to address chronic 
absenteeism.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
    Question. Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA): I am 
extremely concerned about the impact of this year's FAFSA errors and 
delays on students and their families, as well as on colleges and 
universities.
    What is the Department doing to address the alarmingly low rates of 
FAFSA completion caused by the Department's catastrophic handling of 
this situation, and what is the Department's plan to ensure that 
students in this year's graduating high school class do not permanently 
lose out on educational opportunities?
    Answer. The Department has already received over 12.22 million 
FAFSA forms, 11.68 million of which have been processed as of July 9, 
2024. The Department has made significant progress in closing the gap 
in FAFSA submissions to 5.7 percent as of July 9 compared to this time 
last year, down from nearly 40 percent in March. Submissions from high 
school seniors are currently less than 12 percent behind last year, as 
of July 2, 2024.
    In addition to ED's existing messaging and media, the Department 
launched the Student Support Strategy in May to distribute $50M to 
organizations on the ground supporting current cycle FAFSA completion 
efforts, specifically targeting this year's high school senior class. 
Organizations receiving funding are paying for additional summer 
staffing, developing supportive resources, and working directly with 
students and families.
    This spring and summer the Department is taking significant action 
to get FAFSA completions at the levels of previous cycles. Over the 
summer months the Department is implementing four primary strategies to 
close completion gaps:
      1. Updating key messaging and asks by stakeholder group for the 
        summer months.
      2. Maximizing first-time FAFSA submissions and completions 
        through a community college specific campaign, adult learner 
        campaign, and territories-specific support.
      3. Converting students who have started but not submitted the 
        FAFSA to completed status through direct emails and text 
        campaigns from FSA, as well as other initiatives like 
        additional trainings for counselors.
      4. Ensuring that all returning students have completed the FAFSA 
        through tactics focused on students who may have stopped out of 
        higher education and/or who may be transfer students.
    Finally, the Department has launched a Summer Resources campaign to 
new stakeholder groups who oversee locations that students frequent 
over the summer. These groups will provide a folder of promotional 
materials and resources to remind students to complete the FAFSA and 
offer support. The campaign includes more than 30 new stakeholder 
groups including: public recreation centers, gyms, movie theaters, 
libraries, supermarkets, one-stop centers, food pantries, malls, summer 
sports orgs, volunteer sites, etc.
    Question. Why am I still hearing from NH colleges and universities 
that have yet to receive all the information they need from the 
Department?
    Answer. Since rolling out the Better FAFSA, and as of July 9, 2024, 
the Department has received 12.22 million FAFSA forms. The Department 
has addressed nearly all known issues with the form and has made 
significant progress in closing the gap in FAFSA submissions to 5.7 
percent as of July 9 compared to this time last year, down from nearly 
40 percent in March. Nearly all four-year colleges and universities are 
packaging aid offers for students who are now making enrollment 
decisions.
    Throughout the launch of the new FAFSA, a top priority of the 
Department has been providing support to colleges and universities to 
make sure they have the resources they need to process student records 
as efficiently as possible, make aid offers to students, and encourage 
enrollment in higher education. Through the College Support Strategy, 
we have provided support to every college or university that has 
reached out to us for help, and last month we launched a new $50 
million program--the Student Support Strategy--to help drive FAFSA 
completion and increase college enrollment across the country.
    The Department will continue to leave no stone unturned in pursuit 
of our goal of ensuring that every student has the help they need to 
access the life-changing potential of higher education. We are happy to 
meet with your office or institutions in your state to provide 
additional information or support.
    Question. With ongoing FAFSA data errors impacting so many students 
and institutions, how will the Department ensure that students do not 
have funding clawed back from them if their financial aid packages may 
have been issued incorrectly as a result of these errors?
    Will there be a process for students to submit claims, should they 
be awarded erroneous amounts of grants and loans due to errors and 
problems with the FAFSA rollout?
    Answer. The Department will continue to assess ways to provide 
guidance to institutions regarding awards made under the 24-25 FAFSA 
while maintaining the appropriate improper payment safeguards.
    Question. How will the Department hold itself accountable for the 
harm it has caused institutions, students, families and taxpayers?
    Answer. Implementing the FUTURE Act and FAFSA Simplification Act 
required completely overhauling the entire FAFSA ecosystem. This 
included updating over 20 systems, some of which were over 50 years 
old. It required changes to the form itself, the underlying formula, 
data management and security procedures and working to ensure that 
institutions, states, and vendors could implement the changes. The 
Department acknowledges that the expansive scope and timeline of the 
changes for the 2024-25 FAFSA has been challenging for students, 
families, institutions, states, and organizations that support them.
    Executive leadership at the Department has been working closely 
with the Office of Postsecondary Education and other offices within ED 
since fall of 2022 to set priorities, oversee project planning and 
implementation, and ensure accountability for the development and 
launch of the 2024-25 FAFSA. This detailed and frequent oversight will 
continue leading up to and through the 2025-26 FAFSA implementation.
    The Department recently outlined comprehensive steps it is taking 
to improve Federal Student Aid (FSA) for students, families, borrowers, 
and schools. These efforts will ensure FSA works better and addresses 
ongoing management and operational challenges. Specifically, the 
Department has or is taking the following steps:
  --Searching for a new Chief Operating Officer (COO) for FSA.
  --Conducting a full-scale review of FSA's current and historical 
        organization, management, staffing, workflow structures, 
        business processes, and operations to continue bringing the 
        Federal financial aid system into to the 21st century.
  --Hired an independent consulting firm to make recommendations to the 
        COO and the Secretary on ways to improve the design, structure, 
        and processes within FSA, with a focus on building an updated 
        organizational structure and workflow.
  --Reviewing contracts and acquisition procedures to ensure contracts 
        are appropriately structured to hold vendors accountable for 
        meeting key deadlines, achieving desired outcomes, and 
        providing the best value to the agency and protecting 
        taxpayers' resources.
  --Restructuring senior leader reporting protocols to increase 
        accountability and make sure we provide the best value to the 
        agency and protect taxpayers' resources.
  --Creating a new IT innovation team empowered to lead information 
        technology design to support the digital transformation of the 
        organization. This new team will oversee recruitment of top 
        engineers, project managers, and designers who will bring 
        critical information technology expertise and experience to 
        strengthen FSA's work in this area.
  --Seeking input from the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) and 
        engaging Members of Congress, whose constituents receive 
        services from FSA.
  --Continuing our robust outreach efforts to parents, students, 
        colleges, and community organizations, and conduct listening 
        sessions with them this summer.
    Question. Student Loan Repayment: Secretary Cardona, at several 
previous hearings before this Committee, I asked you repeatedly about 
the transition back to repayment, and you assured me that the 
Department was committed to providing clarity for borrowers and 
facilitating a successful resumption of payments. At last year's 
hearing, you assured me explicitly that the Department would ``work 
with its contractors and outside partners to ensure that borrowers have 
the most up-to-date, accurate information on the status of their 
loans.''
    Why, then, have borrowers had to deal with incorrect information 
and confusion as they attempt to make the payments they owe?
    Answer. The Department has worked closely with its loan servicers 
throughout the return to repayment process. This was a herculean task 
to bring approximately 28 million borrowers back to repayment last 
October, which is five times more than in an entire typical year. 
Federal Student Aid has been burdened with flat funding and higher 
costs, leaving servicers with significantly fewer call center 
representatives per borrower than they had in 2020. FSA provided 
updated versions of a communications playbook to servicers to provide 
smooth communications to borrowers.
    Question. How is the Department working to better support borrowers 
and ensure they have the accurate information they need to successfully 
make their required payments?
    Answer. The Department has changed the way we communicate with 
borrowers and made it easier for borrowers to reach us through our call 
centers. The return to repayment was the first time the Department has 
been able to do direct outreach to borrowers. We emailed and texted 
millions of borrowers with information about repayment options and 
directed them to affordable repayment plans and the opportunity to 
enroll in auto-debit. The Department initiated a one-of-a-kind program 
developed with academic researchers call the Targeted Early Delinquency 
Intervention campaign that tested communication models for borrowers 
who missed payments to get them back on track.
    Question. Educator Shortage: Schools in New Hampshire are facing 
significant challenges with hiring and retaining teachers, staff and 
school administrators.
    How is the Department working to address the educator shortage 
facing schools across the country?
    Answer. The Department is working to help states and districts in 
their efforts to eliminate educator shortages through programs that 
expand access to high-quality and affordable educator preparation 
programs, promote career advancement and leadership opportunities for 
educators, provide high-quality new teacher induction and professional 
development throughout educators' careers, and address teacher 
compensation. The Department has partnered with the Department of Labor 
to bring Registered Teacher Apprenticeships to 37 states, DC, and PR in 
an effort to address educator shortages and invest in teacher 
preparation programs. Registered Apprenticeships are a key strategy in 
the Administration's plan to raise the bar in education and improve 
learning conditions in schools by ending the educator shortage and 
providing all students with great teachers prepared to succeed in the 
classroom. Additionally, the Administration's FY 2025 Budget requested 
significant increases for competitive programs that will strengthen and 
diversify the teacher pipeline by helping states and districts build 
high-quality pathways into the profession to recruit and prepare 
educators. The budget request includes:
      1. Increase of $25 million for Teacher Quality Partnerships, to 
        prepare educators through effective programs including teacher 
        residencies and grow-your-own programs.
      2. Increase of $15 million for the Augustus F. Hawkins Centers of 
        Excellence Program, to support a diverse and well-prepared 
        pipeline of effective educators by expanding and strengthening 
        teacher education programs at Historically Black Colleges or 
        Universities (HBCUs), Hispanic-serving Institutions, Tribally 
        Controlled Colleges or Universities (TCCUs), and other 
        Minority-Serving Institutions (MSIs).
      3. Increase of $10 million for the Personnel Preparation Program, 
        an investment designed to bolster the special education 
        educator pipeline.
      4. Level support is requested for the State Personnel Development 
        Program, an investment designed to help State educational 
        agencies (SEAs) reform and improve their systems for personnel 
        preparation and professional development of individuals 
        providing early intervention, educational, and transition 
        services to improve results for children with disabilities.
    Question. How is the Department supporting school districts in 
their efforts to recruit and retain teachers, school leaders and staff?
    Answer. In addition to the request for increased funding for 
teacher preparation programs, the Administration has requested an 
increase in funding for competitive grant programs that support 
educators and school leaders to develop, prepare and retain teachers 
throughout the pipeline. The budget request includes:
      1. Increase of $5 million for Graduate Fellowships, to support 
        the training of more higher education faculty with the 
        knowledge and skills to train the next generation of teachers.
      2. $90 million for the Supporting effective educator development 
        to prepare, develop, and retain an effective and diverse 
        teacher and school leader workforce, that can meet the social, 
        emotional, mental health and academic needs of their students.
      3. $173 million for the Teacher and School Leader Incentive 
        grants, to support school-based models of distributed 
        leadership that give teachers the opportunity to lead beyond 
        the classroom, and be compensated for this work, improving 
        teacher retention.
    Question. Pandemic Relief Funds: I am hearing concern from schools 
across my state about the upcoming expiration of Elementary and 
Secondary School Emergency Relief (ESSER) funds. I appreciate the 
guidance the Department has provided for states and school districts 
that may need additional time to continue liquidating funds, and I 
continue to urge the Department to work to ensure this process is 
feasible and not burdensome for school districts to navigate.
    Given that some school districts may be interested in submitting 
their late liquidation applications as soon as possible, whereas others 
may not be ready until closer to the deadline, can you confirm that 
states will have multiple opportunities to request late liquidation 
flexibility on behalf of their school districts?
    Answer. A State, as the Department's pandemic-relief grantee, 
determines both its timeline and process for requesting a late 
liquidation extension on behalf of itself and its school districts. The 
Department does, however, require that the submission of a State's 
request for a liquidation extension include the forecasted amount of 
funds to be liquidated during the period of extension for both the 
State and all of its districts. The Department does not review 
incomplete requests, meaning those requests that do not accurately 
project the anticipated needs of a grantee and all of the school 
districts for which the State will extend the liquidation period when 
its extension is approved. States may amend requests as better State 
and local fiscal data becomes available. This process ensures that the 
Department has the necessary fiscal data to provide adequate oversight 
for the continued implementation of ARP funds during the extended 
liquidation period.
    Question. How is the Department ensuring that districts are aware 
that they can extend time for contracted services through the late 
liquidation time period to ensure that tutoring services, mental health 
services and other effective programs can continue past the obligation 
deadline?
    Answer. The Department has held multiple office hours for grantees, 
including State education agencies and Governors, to ensure that the 
timeline and process for seeking an extension is clear. During these 
sessions, the Department has communicated that activities may continue 
past the obligation deadline under certain circumstances, namely, if 
allowable under State and local procurement laws. These office hours 
are recorded and available on the Department's website. Further, the 
Department held monthly check-in calls with each State throughout the 
spring. These calls focused on ensuring that grantees are regularly 
communicating their timelines and processes for requesting liquidation 
extensions to their subrecipients within the State. States have also 
received individual technical assistance to support the State to submit 
a complete and accurate request as soon as possible.
    Question. How is the Department's proposal for new ESSER spending 
data collection requirements, which the Department expects will require 
an additional four million personnel hours for school districts to 
comply with, different from existing data collection requirements on 
states and school districts, and why are these new requirements needed 
in addition to the information already provided through state and 
district plans?
    Answer. New ESSER spending data collection requirements include 
detailed sub-categories for the use of funds (e.g., meals for students, 
tutoring, additional staffing/activities to support social and 
emotional well-being, community schools, etc.). This will provide the 
public with more detailed information on ESSER expenditures compared to 
the broad categories we previously required, which offered little 
detail through general accounting code categories. States were notified 
of this change in 2022, with initial collection of the expanded data 
set beginning in 2024.
    Question. How is the Department working to support school districts 
facing upcoming budgetary challenges as a result of the expiration of 
pandemic relief funds?
    Answer. The Strategic Planning for Continued Recovery (SPCR), is an 
ED-funded initiative that began during the summer of 2023, which aims 
to support insular areas as well as state educational agencies (SEAs) 
as they work with local educational agencies (LEAs) to sustain 
effective investments funded by ESSER (Elementary and Secondary School 
Emergency Relief) and ESF (Education Stabilization Fund). To best 
support the field, ED complied a cross-office SPCR Project Team and 
Advisory Board, with representatives from: the Office of Assistant 
Secretary, Office of Formula Grants, Program and Grantee Support 
Services, Office of State and Grantee Relations, Office of School 
Support and Accountability, Rural Insular and Native Achievement 
Programs, and the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative 
Services.
    The SPCR focuses on supporting SEAs (and, by extension, LEAs) to 
implement six strategies: (1) Determine impact of investments; (2) 
Prioritize efforts for ongoing recovery & transformation; (3) Achieve 
sustainability through financial planning; (4) Ensure access & 
opportunity for all; (5) Communicate impact of investments; and (6) 
Support/sustain systemic capacity building. Within those strategies, 
SEAs have engaged LEAs by using five levers: 1) Grantmaking; 2) 
Monitoring; 3) Policies; 4) Technical Assistance; and 5) Partnerships.
    Through the SPCR, SEAs have participated in a variety of activities 
over the last year, including: attending live or watching a recording 
of strategy-specific webinars, learning from and sharing with other 
SEAs through cross-SEA collaboration sessions, and accessing 
individualized consultations with SPCR initiative content experts. The 
SPCR also has a robust resource inventory, including the SPCR SEA 
Sustainability Planning Template. The initiative regularly amplifies 
materials from SEAs and LEAs--such as North Carolina's ESSER Funding 
Cliff Toolkit--to support ED stakeholders with the sustainability of 
effective ESSER and ESF investments.
    Finally, at the start of June 2024, the SPCR team launched three 
short-term communities of practice. All SEAs and IAs were invited to 
join. These COPs, focused on return on investment [Participants: DC, 
Guam, IN, NE, NV, NJ, NY, NC], evaluating trade-offs [Participants: WA, 
AL, USVI], and planning sustainability of effective internal processes 
and technical assistance supports provided to LEAs [Participants: CNMI, 
OK, KS, American Samoa, CA], are convening SEA teams to learn from one 
another and to receive free coaching from SPCR subject matter experts. 
All COP participants will meet in Dallas, TX in July 2024 for an in-
person institute and in August 2024 for a cross-SEA share-out of 
lessons learned and best practices as they plan for the expiration of 
pandemic relief funds.
    Question. Given that school districts will be looking for 
alternative sources of funds to replace pandemic relief funding, how is 
the Department working to notify school districts about funding 
opportunities, such as new competitive grant opportunities, that can 
enable them to sustain personnel and services?
    Answer. When the Department opens new grant competitions it 
publishes a Notice Inviting Applications (NIA) in the Federal Register, 
which includes information on program purpose, eligible applicants, 
selection criteria, and award information. The Department promotes 
these new funding opportunities publicly and shares with relevant 
stakeholders (e.g., States, districts, professional groups, advocacy 
groups and others). Information on current open grant competitions, can 
be found here.
    The Department released a factsheet, Sustaining Investments in 
Teachers Beyond the American Rescue Plan, highlighting additional 
Federal resources available to sustain ARP investments in key 
strategies focused on attracting, preparing, supporting, and retaining 
a diverse teacher workforce and address teacher shortages for the long-
term. In addition, the Department has released two policy briefs, which 
discuss specific grants that can be used to support educators.
    Finally, the Department's Raise The Bar pages include information 
about grants and resources that States and districts can leverage to 
support an array of needs.
    Question. Mental Health: I continue to be concerned about the 
mental health crisis facing school communities.
    How is the Department using appropriated funds to help increase 
access to mental health services in schools?
    Answer. The Department has long supported increasing access to 
school-based mental health services to make it easier for any student 
struggling with these challenges to get the help they need. It is 
critical that we recognize psychological distress and ensure access to 
the support and services needed to diagnose and treat mental illness. 
The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA) authorized $2 billion in 
funding for the Department to expand school-based mental health 
services and to provide additional support for States and districts to 
support initiatives to promote safe and healthy learning environments 
for students and school staff.
    Through BSCA and School Safety National Activities funding, the 
Department has awarded a total of 264 grants under the School-Based 
Mental Health Services (SBMH) grant program and the Mental Health 
Service Professional (MSHP) Demonstration grant program to date. The 
purpose of SBMH is to increase the number of credentialed school-based 
mental health service providers delivering school-based mental health 
services to students. Funding for MHSP is used to train school-based 
mental health services providers for employment in schools and local 
educational agencies. In FY 2024, we plan to make additional awards 
under both programs with funding from the School Safety National 
Activities funding.
    In addition, under BSCA, the Stronger Connections grant program 
provided $1 billion in funding for State educational agencies to award 
competitive grants to high-need LEAs to broadly support safe and 
healthy learning environments, in accordance with section 4108 of the 
ESEA. This could include additional supports for school-based mental 
health services.
    The FY 2025 budget request builds on these investments through 
funding under the following programs:
  --The School Safety National Activities request would provide 
        approximately $39.8 million under for new awards under SBMH and 
        MHSP programs.
  --Funding under Student Support and Academic Enrichment program can 
        be used to support safe and healthy students and provide 
        school-based mental health services, including through 
        partnerships with mental health or healthcare entities. The 
        request for this program aims to increase access to school-
        based health services, including mental health services, for 
        students enrolled in Medicaid and the Children's Health 
        Insurance Program (CHIP). The Department is considering using a 
        portion of the FY 2025 funds reserved for technical assistance 
        and capacity building to further assist States and LEAs to 
        implement and expand school-based physical and mental health 
        services. Working in close coordination with the newly launched 
        technical assistance center for school-based Medicaid run by 
        the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the Department 
        would continue to provide technical assistance and resources 
        for States and LEAs to address physical and mental health needs 
        of students.
  --The request for Full-Service Community Schools would support 
        efforts to increase access to school-based health services, 
        including mental health services, for students enrolled in 
        Medicaid and CHIP. Community schools, which often offer mental 
        and physical healthcare services to students, may be well 
        positioned to leverage Medicaid and CHIP funding to expand the 
        school-based services offered to students.
    Question. What does the Department see as the primary challenges 
facing efforts to increase the numbers of school-based mental health 
professionals?
    Answer. Funding and access to licensed mental health professionals 
appear to be significant challenges to providing school-based mental 
health services according to results from the NCES School Pulse Survey 
for the 2023-2024 school year reported in March of 2024. Data from that 
survey indicated that only 48 percent of public schools agree that they 
are able to effectively provide mental health services to all students 
in need. Inadequate funding was identified as a limiting factor for 57 
percent of public schools, and inadequate access to licensed mental 
health professionals was identified as a limiting factor for 53 percent 
of public schools. A 2022 GAO report documented financial, educational, 
and workplace challenges for recruiting and retaining behavioral health 
providers that are relevant to school settings. These challenges 
include (1) low reimbursement rates and compensation for behavioral 
services; (2) a lack of a pipeline for recruitment for underserved 
populations to enter the workforce because many programs designed to 
recruit diverse behavioral health providers only benefit individuals 
already studying in a behavioral health field; and (3) a workload for 
behavioral health providers that is often high, which can lead to 
providers burning out and leaving the field.
    Question. Education Research: I appreciate that the Department is 
looking to diversify the types of institutions that receive funding 
from the Institute of Education Sciences (IES).
    What is the Department of Education planning to do in FY 2025 to 
ensure more funding goes out to research institutions that have not 
traditionally received IES funding?
    Answer. The Research Centers at IES (National Center for Education 
Research (NCER) and National Center for Special Education Research 
(NCSER)) are also implementing broad outreach strategies to research 
institutions across the nation. We are working collaboratively with our 
colleagues in other parts of the Department to ensure that our funding 
opportunities are shared broadly. In addition, we have announced our 
primary competitions with sufficient time so that our program officers 
can provide technical assistance to new applicants.
    Under its Research Training in the Education Sciences grant program 
(84.305B), NCER has developed opportunities for early career 
researchers from any research institution to submit applications for 
smaller grants. These efforts have resulted in NCER providing research 
grants to two MSIs and one research institution for the first time. 
NCER continues to reach out to potential early career applicants at 
institutions that traditionally have not been grantees.
    The Research Training in the Education Sciences grant competition 
also supports our Pathways to the Education Sciences program (https://
ies.ed.gov/ncer/projects/program.asp?ProgID=95) which are awarded to 
awarded to minority-serving institutions (MSIs) and their partners. To 
date, IES has made twelve awards to seven MSIs. IES intends to invite 
applicants to this program in FY 2025.
    NCER has also launched several programs intended to increase the 
number of applications we receive from a different and wider range of 
applicants. For example, both our Transformative Research in the 
Education Sciences and our Using Longitudinal Data to Support State 
Education Policymaking programs require partnerships with industry (the 
Transformative program) and with state and local education agencies.
    Question. How are you working to facilitate innovative education 
research at IES?
    Answer. IES recently established the Accelerate, Transform, Scale 
(ATS) Initiative, which supports advanced education research and 
development (R&D) to create scalable solutions to improve education 
outcomes for all learners and eliminate persistent achievement and 
attainment gaps. The ATS Initiative is inspired by the advanced 
research projects agencies (ARPAs) found throughout the Federal 
government. ARPAs leverage insights from basic and applied research to 
develop and scale breakthrough solutions and capabilities in focused 
areas that research and industry do not traditionally support.
    Through this initiative, IES is investing in bold, innovative ideas 
that come from interdisciplinary, diverse teams that have the potential 
to make dramatic advances towards solving seemingly intractable 
problems and challenges in the education field. A central part of IES's 
innovative education research investments is incentivizing partnerships 
between research institutions and other important education 
stakeholders. For example, the California Policy Lab (based at UC 
Berkely and UCLA) partnered with the California Community College 
Chancellor's Office, the University of California Office of the 
President, the California Department of Social Services, and the 
California Student Aid Commission. By combining data from these 
organizations, the researchers can estimate both the number of CA 
college students eligible for SNAP benefits and the number receiving 
them. The research is likely to lead to innovations in how the program 
is provided and disseminated in response to the finding of a wide gap 
between eligibility and receipt, and differences in how students are 
treated based on the type of college they attend. (Note: the report 
will be released tomorrow if we want to link to it).
    In the Transformative Research in the Education Sciences program, 
IES requires teams to include a partnership between a research 
organization, product development organization, and education agency. 
Awardees must also establish a cost sharing partner by the start of the 
second year of their grant to ensure that there is another entity with 
a vested interest in the sustainability of the project.
    Through its Statistical and Research Methods in Education grant 
program, IES is supporting the development of research methods that 
allow researchers to do new types of analyses and design new or 
improved research projects.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Jeff Merkley
TRIO and FAFSA
    Question. The rollout of the new FAFSA has been difficult for 
students and colleges across the country. One such population that has 
been negatively impacted by the new FAFSA is students who might be 
eligible for TRIO.
    TRIO law stipulates that to qualify for the program, students must 
demonstrate that their family's taxable income did not exceed 150% of 
the Federal poverty level. However, under the new FAFSA, TRIO programs 
are unable to automatically access information about whether a student 
qualifies for TRIO (their family's taxable income).
    Now, to obtain the information needed to determine students' 
eligibility, TRIO programs must ask students to submit a waiver to 
their financial aid offices consenting to the release of their Federal 
tax information. The student must then return to the TRIO office with 
this information, which the program will then use to determine program 
eligibility. This is a very cumbersome process that adds additional 
barriers to students' participation in TRIO.
    Secretary Cardona, is the Department of Education doing anything to 
address this problem or does Congress need to pass legislative language 
to fix this issues?
    Answer. The Department continues to prioritize our work in rolling 
out the new FAFSA. Specific to TRIO eligibility, we agree that the 
current definition of low-income in TRIO statute is overly restrictive 
and creates barriers for TRIO grantees seeking to enroll otherwise 
eligible students that meet commonsense definitions of low-income. For 
that reason, the Administration proposed appropriations language in the 
FY 2025 President's budget that would broaden the definition of low-
income to provide TRIO grantees with greater flexibility in determining 
whether a potential TRIO participant qualifies as a low-income 
individual. The proposed language would allow TRIO grantees to, when 
determining whether a potential participant is a low-income individual, 
consider whether the potential participant or their immediate family 
has participated in the past year in certain Federal assistance 
programs, in addition to the existing criteria set forth in the HEA. We 
believe that this proposed language would reduce barriers for 
recruiting and enrolling eligible participants, thereby ensuring that 
TRIO grantees are able to serve the students with the greatest need.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
Student Debt Forgiveness
    Question. Our national debt continues to grow and recently exceeded 
$34 trillion. This Administration's new student loan cancellation 
proposal is estimated to cost as much as $750 billion. We simply cannot 
afford to add another $750 billion to the national debt.
    There are already more than 50 student loan repayment and 
forgiveness programs that aim to attract individuals to vital service 
jobs, such as teachers, healthcare workers, and public servants. This 
Administration's student debt cancellation programs undermine these 
programs and force hard-working taxpayers who already paid off their 
loans or did not go to college to shoulder the cost. Instead, we should 
be focusing on bipartisan student debt reforms that take commonsense 
steps to fill the gaps in our workforce.
    That is why I introduced the bipartisan SMARTER Debt Act. This bill 
would establish an interactive, online dashboard at the Department of 
Education to improve public access to information about these existing 
student loan programs that aim to attract borrowers to public service 
and highly needed professions.
    Will you support my commonsense proposal to promote student loan 
forgiveness programs that aim to fill the gaps in our workforce 
shortages?
    Answer. We would be happy to discuss with your office the best ways 
to make sure that borrowers are aware of the forgiveness opportunities 
available to them.
    Question. Can the Department commit to promoting these existing 
programs to further incentive students to enter into public service, 
teaching, and healthcare?
    Answer. The Department believes that programs that provide relief 
for public service, particularly the Public Service Loan Forgiveness 
Program, are critical for ensuring that students are able to work in 
public service professions. We have and will continue to promote PSLF. 
If there are other Federal programs that we should consider, we would 
be happy to have a conversation with your office.
FAFSA and Homeless Youth
    Question. While we are all aware of the many of the challenges 
surrounding the launch of the new Free Application for Federal Student 
Aid (FAFSA), the application delays have been particularly burdensome 
for students in foster care and students experiencing homelessness. The 
West Virginia Department of Education identified more than 13,530 
students who experienced homelessness last school year.
    For anyone to move out of poverty and live a healthy life, it's 
helpful to have some sort of postsecondary education or skills 
training. One of the most significant barriers to access is financial 
aid. Without it, they cannot transition to and complete their college 
education--leaving them at a higher risk of continued homelessness and 
hardship as adults.
    The FAFSA Simplification Act included provisions to remove barriers 
that are commonly faced by youth experiencing homelessness--
specifically all of the documentation they needed to ``prove'' that 
they have no home. However, I am disappointed to hear about the ongoing 
challenges that these students are facing during the Department's 
rollout of the FAFSA.
    Can you share how the Department plans to resolve the documentation 
challenges that youth experiencing homelessness are facing and how the 
Department plans to provide assistance to these students?
    Answer. The Department has published via Electronic Announcement 
(GEN-23-06) and the FSA Handbook clear guidance outlining the 
responsibilities of the Financial Aid Administrator in implementing the 
provision of the FAFSA Simplification Act as it related to 
Unaccompanied Youth and Homeless determinations. We will continue to 
emphasize this guidance with the financial aid community.
FAFSA Completion Concerns
    Question. West Virginia's high school FAFSA completion rates are 
down nearly 40 percent, despite holding over 200 FAFSA workshops across 
the state. Students and parents have become increasingly frustrated 
when they receive errors and have to wait for the Department to 
reprocess them.
    Every student and their family deserve to know the full cost of 
going to college before they make such an important decision. Students 
should have all of the facts necessary to learn the best way to finance 
a college education, and these persistent FAFSA changes and delays are 
ultimately affecting these students' ability to pursue a college degree 
and will harm those most in need of aid.
    How is the Department assisting states, like my home state of West 
Virginia, who are experiencing lower than average FAFSA completion 
numbers?
    Answer. The Department is keeping careful track of the states who 
have lower than average FAFSA completion numbers this cycle and is 
implementing a variety of tactics to provide support, including 
dedicated outreach to make state officials aware of the Student Support 
Strategy--which provides funds for FAFSA completion efforts over the 
summer months, dedicated weekly office hours for state personnel to 
join with senior ED and FSA leaders to get information, share best 
practices, and ask questions, and importantly, sharing data through 
weekly emails to state, district, and local leadership about submission 
and completion data and metrics by state and district. Further, ED is 
working with national non-profit and college access organizations to 
direct surge capacity over the summer months to states needing support, 
is providing targeted direct messaging through existing communication 
channels and promotional campaigns, and is collecting state-specific 
data via survey about student completion portals and LEA utilization 
rates in order to provide and/or direct technical, operational, and 
philanthropic support over the summer months.
FAFSA Impacts on Schools
    Question. While colleges and universities are already extending 
their decision deadlines to give prospective students enough time to 
weigh their admissions offers, schools are now experiencing delays in 
even being able to send their financial aid packages out as the 
Department continues to find errors and reprocess FAFSA applications.
    These continuous delays and the Department's frequently changing 
guidance are creating uncertainty around college decisions for 
institutions, students, and their families. Not being able to provide 
financial aid information prevents students and their families from 
being able to make timely and informed financial decisions. This puts 
additional financial strain on families which in turn can be 
detrimental to institutions of higher education who have experienced 
declining enrollment since the COVID-19 pandemic.
    With these ongoing FAFSA issues, colleges are reporting significant 
declines in undergraduate deposits, potentially forecasting another 
decline in enrollments this fall.
    When does the Department plan to publish the draft FAFSA form for 
the 2025-2026 school year?
    Can the Department commit to making the form for school year 2025- 
2026 available to complete online by October 1, 2024?
    Answer. The Department has already received and processed over 
12.22 million FAFSA forms, 11.68 million of which have been processed 
as of July 9, 2024. The Department has made significant progress in 
closing the gap in FAFSA submissions to 5.7 percent as of July 9 
compared to this time last year, down from nearly 40 percent in March. 
Nearly all four-year colleges and universities are packaging aid offers 
for students who are now making enrollment decisions.
    We have heard from students, families, institutions, states, and 
those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA form to 
launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal.
    To ensure a consistent and smooth user experience during the 
upcoming FAFSA cycle, the 2025-26 FAFSA will remain consistent with the 
2024-25 form. As a result, and similar to previous years when we have 
not had major shifts in functionality, the 2025-26 form will not be 
made available for public comment. However, we will continue to focus 
our efforts on improving the user experience for students, families, 
and our partners and will collect feedback to inform our efforts 
through a series of listening sessions and a Request for Information 
(RFI) this summer to solicit feedback from those not able to attend the 
sessions.
    The Department will request specific feedback on ways to improve 
the help text on the form, student tip sheets, or other direct 
communication to students to ensure students can successfully complete 
and submit the form. The Department will also request feedback from 
financial aid administrators, counselors and others on ways the 
Department can provide additional support to them in their work.
    The listening sessions and RFI will also lead to the development of 
a new Better FAFSA Better Future Roadmap--to be released in late 
summer--that will outline new tools the Department is making available, 
such as additional trainings, webinars, counselor guides, and student 
tip sheets.
Homeless Youth
    Question. During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, I was proud 
to secure additional funding for the education of homeless children and 
youth in the response to evidence that children and youth experiencing 
homelessness were disproportionately impacted by school closures, yet 
were largely overlooked in the first two COVID-19 packages. Those 
funds, the American Rescue Plan--Homeless Children and Youth (ARP-HCY) 
funds must be obligated by September 30th of this year.
    Unfortunately, youth homelessness has worsened since the pandemic, 
and in the last year there has been a 16% increase in the number of 
families in homeless shelters. In 2023, the West Virginia Department of 
Education has identified more than 13,530 students who experienced 
homelessness. With the increase in student homelessness, I was pleased 
that the President's budget requested $129 million for McKinney-Vento 
education dollars.
    Given the increase in student homelessness, the incredible impact 
of the ARP- HCY funds for which I advocated, and the fact that current 
funding level only allows 1 out of 5 school districts to receive 
targeted support, can you share what the Department is doing to support 
and address the rise of homeless youth in West Virginia and across the 
country?
    Answer. The ARP-HCY funds presented unprecedented opportunities for 
SEAs and LEAs to enhance their ability to assist children and youth 
experiencing homelessness. While the ongoing McKinney-Vento Education 
for Homeless Children and Youths (EHCY) program typically focuses on 
educationally related support service needs, the ARP-HCY funds allow 
SEAs and LEAs to collaborate with other agencies and organizations to 
form a comprehensive support system for addressing various needs for 
students in the form of wrap-around services. The Department required 
States to allocate at least 75 percent of the ARP-HCY funding to LEAs 
via subgrants, which allowed SEAs to offer subgrants to LEAs that had 
not previously had an EHCY subgrant to improve their capacity to 
identify and support the needs of students experiencing homelessness. 
The remaining funds were available for State-level activities to 
support training, technical assistance, capacity-building, and 
engagement at the State and LEA levels.
    In addition, the Department's National Center for Homeless 
Education (NCHE) provides support to help States and LEAs maximize 
their ARP-HCY funds. The Department has offered regular webinars, 
office hours, and other presentations at national conferences on 
supporting implementation of the EHCY and ARP-HCY programs, including 
strategies for maximizing the obligation of funds and building 
sustainable impact (given that the ARP-HCY funds are a one-time 
investment). NCHE offers a range of products and services for homeless 
education staff and stakeholders in both States and LEAs, such as 
topical reports and briefs, including program practice spotlights from 
around the country, topical ad hoc workgroups of SEA staff, and 
regularly maintaining a hotline and website.
    Each SEA receives customized technical assistance by NCHE to meet 
their specific needs. This includes support with how to analyze its LEA 
data on students experiencing homelessness and strategies for 
obligating funds in collaboration with community-based organizations 
who also serve these students and their families. Department staff 
continue to regularly engage with SEA staff to provide support and help 
them maximize the reach and value of the ARP-HCY funds to meet the 
needs of homeless children and youth by the obligation deadline of 
September 30, 2024.
    Question. 52% of students experiencing homelessness were 
chronically absent during the 2021-2022 school year. Students 
experiencing homelessness face unique barriers to school attendance, 
including frequent moves that make transportation difficult, lack of 
basic needs like clothes and hygiene products, and more. Within the 
Department's efforts to reduce chronic absenteeism, what specific 
actions are being taken to address the high chronic absence rates of 
students experiencing homelessness?
    Answer. Chronic absenteeism is one of the performance measures for 
the EHCY program, so the Department tracks year-to-year performance 
nationally and by State. Furthermore, information is made public 
annually on ED Data Express and through the Department's National 
Center for Homeless Education. Both the Department and NCHE highlight 
this topic and data on chronic absenteeism among students experiencing 
homelessness and strategies for addressing this issue in presentations, 
webinars and other communications. In Dear Colleague Letters on the 
ARP-HCY program and various webinars and other communications, the 
Department has addressed allowable uses of funds that address chronic 
absenteeism from transportation and health barriers to strategies to 
engage and support students experiencing homelessness. For example, 
wraparound services, even provision of clothing and food, extra-
curricular activities, can be tied to reducing chronic absenteeism. 
Finally, in its approaches to addressing the increase in chronic 
absenteeism among public school students in general, the Department has 
focused on the needs of special populations such as students 
experiencing homelessness.
    Question. Will the Department issue public guidance affirming that 
the allowable uses of ARP-HCY funds, as explained in the September 2023 
Dear Colleague Letter to Chief State School Officers, are also 
allowable under Education for Children and Youth funds, including 
short-term motel stays when reasonable and necessary and used as a last 
resort when no other options are available?
    Answer. The Department does not have plans to issue guidance 
specific to this particular use of funds under the EHCY program. 
However, please note that in the September 2023 DCL, this particular 
use of funds had a footnote with the following explanation:
    ``The ARP-HCY statute provides additional emergency funding to SEAs 
and LEAs to enable homeless children and youth to attend and fully 
participate in school and to provide these children and youth with 
wraparound services given the COVID-19 pandemic. As an emergency 
program, the Department has determined that using ARP-HCY funds for 
short-term emergency housing is consistent with the purpose of the ARP-
HCY statute and could be allowable as a wraparound service made 
necessary by circumstances precipitated by or related to the COVID-19 
emergency, provided the cost of the housing is reasonable and necessary 
and all other requirements are met. This use of funds would not, 
however, be allowable under the regular EHCY program.''
    In our webinar on May 28, 2024, on ``Maximizing Unobligated ARP-HCY 
Funds,'' the Department clarified that it is possible for SEAs and LEAs 
to use ARP-HCY funds to extend the provision of this service as late as 
March 2026, if the SEA applies for liquidation extension for this 
period of time and the SEA or LEA contracts with a community-based 
organization to provide short-term temporary housing to students 
experiencing homelessness.
    Question. Will the Department provide sample language that States 
can utilize in their late liquidation applications for ARP-HCY to ease 
the burden on them and streamline the process for the Department?
    Answer. Yes. The Department has established a template to 
streamline State's applications for late liquidation and has provided a 
number of technical assistance opportunities to clarify the process for 
SEAs. For example, the Department held two webinars and a presentation 
on this topic and will be holding monthly office hours on ARP-HCY 
liquidation extension, starting in June 2024, to discuss the process 
and examples of how submit complete requests. This will build on the 
substantial work already in place, including the technical assistance 
webinars following the release of the CARES Act funding liquidation 
extension request template in October and November 2022 and the work to 
provide late liquidation for the ESSER and GEER programs. 
Communications to grantees detailing the ARP-HCY liquidation extension 
process are available on the Department's ARP-HCY webpage under 
``Fiscal Information'' (https://oese.ed.gov/offices/american-rescue-
plan/american-rescue-plan-elementary-secondary-school-emergency-relief-
homeless-children-youth-arp-hcy/fiscal-information/). Our policy for 
requesting an ARP-HCY liquidation extension is not new for SEAs; it is 
consistent with the templates for ESSER I-III and EANS.
    Question. Title I, Part A requires that LEAs receiving such funds 
set aside such sums as may be necessary to provide educationally 
related support services to assist students experiencing homelessness. 
What efforts have been made by the Department to encourage LEAs 
receiving Title I, Part A funds that have not identified students 
experiencing homelessness to use their set aside funds for 
identification purposes?
    Answer. The Department does not interpret the revised statutory 
language for the Title I, Part A LEA homeless reservation as requiring 
a set-aside of all LEAs receiving Title I, Part A funds if the LEA does 
not have any identified students experiencing homelessness enrolled in 
the LEA. Having said that, the Department is committed to supporting 
meaningful implementation of the Title I, Part A reservation for 
students experiencing homelessness. In our recent technical assistance 
and monitoring we have encouraged SEAs and LEAs to use recent trend 
data on homeless student enrollment and achievement gaps to determine a 
necessary and reasonable amount that is sufficient to address the 
unique needs of students experiencing homelessness.
    This topic has also been a significant part of the Department's 
monitoring efforts. The Department recently revised our monitoring 
protocol for McKinney-Vento to include questions about the Title I, 
Part A homeless set-aside and have had findings in several States that 
require the SEA to issue joint Title I and McKinney-Vento guidance to 
LEAs concerning how to determine a sufficient LEA homeless reservation. 
As a result, three SEAs monitored in recent years have already posted 
new guidance on their websites (i.e., South Carolina, Arkansas and 
Michigan). Other states are in the process of resolving corrective 
action on this matter by summer 2024 (e.g., Minnesota and Illinois). 
The Department has focused on this finding in our technical assistance 
and webinars with all SEAs, including both at conferences of State 
Title I coordinators and our annual conference of McKinney-Vento 
Education for Homeless Children and Youth program State Coordinators. 
We focused on the need by the SEA to provide this kind of oversight and 
guidance or technical assistance to all LEAs enrolling students 
experiencing homelessness. An LEA without an enrolled student 
experiencing homelessness may also use local or trend data to set-aside 
an amount to improve the identification of such students and connecting 
them to educationally related support services.
    As a further step for ensuring accountability on this issue, we 
have taken steps to improve transparency of SEA data. In February 2024, 
States submitted, for the first time, data on LEA reservations of Title 
I-A funds that includes the initially reserved amount to serve students 
experiencing homelessness. The Department is currently reviewing these 
data. Having these data will allow the Department compare the Title I 
homeless set-aside to the homeless student count. This analysis will 
show the number of LEAs that have not set-aside funds to address 
student homelessness and will inform our monitoring and technical 
assistance activities in FY 2025.
    Finally, the Department's National Center for Homeless Education 
(NCHE) has supported implementation of the Title I, Part A set-aside 
requirements through general technical assistance and targeted 
assistance to grantees. For example, NCHE published a training module 
entitled ``Title I, Part A Reservation of Funds for Students 
Experiencing Homelessness'' in April 2023 (https://nche.ed.gov/title-i-
pre-recorded-webinar/). NCHE has also updated its LEA Needs Assessment 
Tool (https://nche.ed.gov/needs-assessment/), which includes a section 
specific to the Title I, Part A reservation.
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          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
FAFSA Implementation
    Question. I'm concerned that the Department used time, resources, 
and personnel to advance its priorities around canceling student debt 
that otherwise would have been directed towards implementing the FUTURE 
Act and the FAFSA Simplification Act.
    How many staff at the Department worked exclusively on 
implementation of the FAFSA Simplification Act and the FUTURE Act?
    How many staff at the Department have spent any portion of their 
time working on debt cancellation or forgiveness efforts?
    Answer. Offices across the entire Federal Student Aid enterprise 
have and continue to support the 2024-25 FAFSA development and 
implementation in various capacities. This includes the Office of 
Student Experience and Aid Delivery, the Office of Partner 
Participation and Oversight, the Policy Implementation and Oversight 
Directorate, the Enterprise Technology Directorate and others. Many of 
these offices and others, such as the Partner Enforcement and Consumer 
Protection Directorate, are involved in ensuring that students receive 
access to student loan forgiveness programs for which they are 
eligible.
    Other offices across the Department also support the implementation 
of FAFSA Simplification Act and FUTURE Act including: Office of the 
Secretary, Office of the Deputy Secretary, Office of the Under 
Secretary, Office of Communications and Outreach, Office of Legislation 
and Congressional Affairs, Office of the General Counsel, Office of 
Postsecondary Education, and the Office of Planning, Evaluation and 
Policy Development.
    Question. The Department is facing a crisis of credibility and 
trust with financial aid offices, students, families, counselors, and 
the general public as a result of the continued delays and errors 
surrounding the 2024-25 FAFSA. This not only creates issues during the 
award year, but could result in effects that spill over into next 
year's cycle.
    What efforts are being made to restore trust with students, 
families, institutions, and the public?
    Answer. The Department recently outlined comprehensive steps it is 
taking to improve Federal Student Aid (FSA) for students, families, 
borrowers, and schools. These efforts will ensure FSA works better and 
addresses ongoing management and operational challenges. Specifically, 
the Department has or is taking the following steps:
  --Searching for a new Chief Operating Officer (COO) for FSA.
  --Conducting a full-scale review of FSA's current and historical 
        organization, management, staffing, workflow structures, 
        business processes, and operations to continue bringing the 
        Federal financial aid system into to the 21st century.
  --Hired an independent consulting firm to make recommendations to the 
        COO and the Secretary on ways to improve the design, structure, 
        and processes within FSA, with a focus on building an updated 
        organizational structure and workflow.
  --Reviewing contracts and acquisition procedures to ensure contracts 
        are appropriately structured to hold vendors accountable for 
        meeting key deadlines, achieving desired outcomes, and 
        providing the best value to the agency and protecting 
        taxpayers' resources.
  --Restructuring senior leader reporting protocols to increase 
        accountability and make sure we provide the best value to the 
        agency and protect taxpayers' resources.
  --Creating a new IT innovation team empowered to lead information 
        technology design to support the digital transformation of the 
        organization. This new team will oversee recruitment of top 
        engineers, project managers, and designers who will bring 
        critical information technology expertise and experience to 
        strengthen FSA's work in this area.
  --Seeking input from the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) and 
        engaging Members of Congress, whose constituents receive 
        services from FSA.
  --Continuing our robust outreach efforts to parents, students, 
        colleges, and community organizations, and conduct listening 
        sessions with them this summer.
    In addition, the Department announced Jeremy Singer as FAFSA 
Executive Advisor in FSA to lead the FAFSA overall strategy and 
accelerate technology innovation to further enhance FSA's technical and 
operational capabilities.
    We have heard from students, families, institutions, states, and 
those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA form to 
launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal and 
toward launching other functionality to ensure students receive timely 
aid offers for the 2025-26 award year as quickly as possible.
    As part of the effort to launch the 2025-26 form, the Department 
will also request feedback from financial aid administrators, 
counselors and others on ways the Department can provide additional 
support to them in their work.
    Question. Even though the Department is still in the midst of 
dealing with issues for this current FAFSA cycle, staff should also be 
focusing on the development of the 2025-26 FAFSA. The Department has 
not yet released any information on whether the 2025-26 FAFSA is on 
track, or whether additional delays should be expected. What we do know 
is that in a typical year, the draft FAFSA is released for public 
comment by late February, and to date, the 2025-26 draft FAFSA has not 
yet been released.
    Where does the FAFSA development cycle for the 2025-26 award year 
currently stand?
    What are you doing to ensure that the delays and errors that 
plagued this FAFSA cycle are not repeated?
    Can you commit that the 2025-26 FAFSA will be available and fully 
functional by October 1, 2024?
    Answer. We have heard from students, families, institutions, 
states, and those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA 
form to launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal 
and launching other functionality to ensure students receive timely aid 
offers for the 2025-26 award year as quickly as possible.
    The Department has announced Jeremy Singer, president of the 
College Board, as a new FAFSA Executive Advisor. He will lead FSA's 
overall strategy on the 2025-26 FAFSA form, working closely with the 
Department's leadership and the FAFSA implementation team to strengthen 
internal systems and processes, bolster technical capabilities, and 
drive innovation to help ensure optimal performance leading to the 
launch of the 2025-26 FAFSA form.
    Senior leadership at the Department will continue to work closely 
with career staff to ensure the 2025-26 FAFSA is launched and ready for 
students to submit applications on an expected timeline of October 1, 
2024.
    To ensure a smooth user experience during the upcoming FAFSA cycle, 
the 2025- 26 FAFSA form will remain consistent with the 2024-25 form. 
As a result, and similar to previous years when we have not had major 
shifts in functionality, the 2025-26 form will not be made available 
for public comment. However, we will continue to focus our efforts on 
improving the user experience for students, families, and our partners 
and will collect feedback to inform our efforts through a series of 
listening sessions and a Request for Information (RFI) this summer to 
solicit feedback from those not able to attend the sessions.
    The Department will request specific feedback on ways to improve 
the help text on the form, student tip sheets, or other direct 
communication to students to ensure students can successfully complete 
and submit the form. The Department will also request feedback from 
financial aid administrators, counselors and others on ways the 
Department can provide additional support to them in their work.
    The listening sessions and RFI will also lead to the development of 
a new Better FAFSA Better Future Roadmap--to be released in late 
summer--that will outline new tools the Department is making available, 
such as additional trainings, webinars, counselor guides, and student 
tip sheets.
    Question. Beyond a properly working FAFSA, there are several 
additional milestones that are critical to ensuring a smooth 
application experience for students, including the delivery of 
applicant data to institutions, the ability for students and schools to 
make corrections, and the processing of paper FAFSAs.
    When will ED make available a roadmap of resources and key delivery 
dates for these deliverables in the 2025-26 FAFSA cycle?
    Can the Department ensure that for the 2025-26 award year, ISIR 
processing timelines, availability of student, parent, and 
institutional corrections, and processing of paper FAFSAs will return 
to the usual schedule of being available when the 25-26 FAFSA goes 
live?
    Answer. We have heard from students, families, institutions, 
states, and those that support them that it is important for the FAFSA 
form to launch on October 1. The Department is working toward this goal 
and toward launching other functionality to ensure students receive 
timely aid offers for the 2025-26 award year as quickly as possible.
    The Department has announced Jeremy Singer, president of the 
College Board, as a new FAFSA Executive Advisor. He will lead FSA's 
overall strategy on the 2025-26 FAFSA form, working closely with the 
Department's leadership and the FAFSA implementation team to strengthen 
internal systems and processes, bolster technical capabilities, and 
drive innovation to help ensure optimal performance leading to the 
launch of the 2025-26 FAFSA form.
    Senior leadership at the Department will continue to work closely 
with career staff to ensure the 2025-26 FAFSA is launched and ready for 
students to submit applications on an expected timeline of October 1, 
2024.
    To ensure a smooth user experience during the upcoming FAFSA cycle, 
the 2025-26 FAFSA form will remain consistent with the 2024-25 form. As 
a result, and similar to previous years when we have not had major 
shifts in functionality, the 2025-26 form will not be made available 
for public comment. However, we will continue to focus our efforts on 
improving the user experience for students, families, and our partners 
and will collect feedback to inform our efforts through a series of 
listening sessions and a Request for Information (RFI) this summer to 
solicit feedback from those not able to attend the sessions.
    The Department will request specific feedback on ways to improve 
the help text on the form, student tip sheets, or other direct 
communication to students to ensure students can successfully complete 
and submit the form. The Department will also request feedback from 
financial aid administrators, counselors and others on ways the 
Department can provide additional support to them in their work.
    The listening sessions and RFI will also lead to the development of 
a new Better FAFSA Better Future Roadmap--to be released in late 
summer--that will outline new tools the Department is making available, 
such as additional trainings, webinars, counselor guides, and student 
tip sheets.
Return to the Office
    Question. The COVID national emergency has been over for almost a 
year now and, last August, the White House Chief of Staff encouraged 
agencies to bring back in-person work policies. What is the Department 
of Education's in-person work requirement?
    Answer.
  --Currently, non-bargaining unit employees on a telework agreement 
        are required to come into the office 5 days a pay period.
  --Upon completion of our bargaining obligations, the agency 
        anticipates increased in- person presence for bargaining unit 
        employees of 5 days a pay period.
    Question. Approximately what percentage of the ED workforce is back 
in the office five days a week?
    Answer. Out of the employees required to be in the office five days 
a week, 51% are back in the office.
Student Loan Forgiveness
    Question. Earlier this month, the Department of Education published 
a draft regulation governing the President's ``Plan B'' student loan 
forgiveness program that is estimated to cost over $147 billion. 
However, the draft is actually only part of the proposed program. The 
Department's press release said an additional rule will be published 
``over the course of the coming months'' for borrowers who experience 
financial hardship. That rule is expected to be so broad that it would 
very likely result in forgiveness even more costly than the program 
struck down by the Supreme Court last summer. Just like the last 
illegal forgiveness plan, both the current and expected draft rules are 
far outside the scope of what Congress intended in the law.
    Do you think Congress intended for the Department of Education to 
make up rules to forgive hundreds of billions of dollars of student 
loans when it wrote the Higher Education Act?
    Answer. We believe the regulations being proposed provide important 
clarifications and transparency into longstanding authority granted to 
the U.S. Secretary of Education under the Higher Education Act.
    Question. Will the Department commit that all forthcoming 
forgiveness rules will have at least thirty days between final 
publication and effective date, as required by the Administrative 
Procedures Act?
    Answer. Generally, regulations promulgated under title IV of the 
HEA are Subject to a master calendar requirement in which regulations 
finalized before November 1 of a given year take effect the following 
year. That same statute provides authority to exercise early 
implementation of provisions at the discretion of the Secretary. We 
believe that authority dictates the timing of regulations related to 
Federal financial aid.
Communities in Schools
    Question. The Department's FY 2025 budget would dedicate a 
significant amount of funding to provide support for planning and 
capacity building of services--such as integrated student supports--for 
traditionally underserved students in the Full Service Community 
Schools program. CIS and community schools have had tremendous impact 
in West Virginia, including serving over 114,000 students with the 
supports needed to succeed in school and life across 272 schools in 55 
counties. 89% of these students graduated or got a GED, 82% improved 
academics, and over 99% stayed in school. The planning and capacity 
building grants proposed by ED could provide early support for new and 
less experienced grantees to focus on one of the four pillars of 
community schools, like evidence-based integrated student supports, 
designed to meet the urgent needs of local communities, while they 
decide if they will apply for a full grant.
    What does the Department feel will be the benefits of planning 
grants as part of this program? What went into the choice to make this 
request in looking at past applicants and grantees? Are there 
improvements needed in the program?
    Answer. Efforts to increase investments in the planning stage will 
allow for new and less experienced grantees to develop community 
schools designed to meet the greatest needs of local communities. The 
planning and capacity building grants provide a critical on-ramp for 
local communities to eventually run full-service community schools.
    Question. Does ED feel it needs additional authority to operate 
planning grants in the program, or can you run them on your own under 
the existing program?
    Answer. Yes. ESEA section 4625(c) authorizes grantees to use not 
more than 10 percent of the total amount of grant funds for planning 
purposes during the first year of the grant. To allow grantees to spend 
their entire award on planning activities, the Department would need 
additional authorization.
    Question. If so, will you work with Congress to make sure the goals 
of the planning grants are fulfilled, Congressional ideas and intent 
will be considered, and new and lower capacity organizations will 
receive the planning grants to improve services to students?
    Answer. Yes, the Department will work with Congress to ensure the 
goals of the planning grants are fulfilled and lower capacity 
organizations will receive planning grants.
Inclusive Access
    Question. The Department is attempting to significantly alter a 
program that allows college students to receive their course materials 
at below market prices and before the first day of class. In the decade 
since this program took effect, data from the College Board has 
demonstrated that student spending on course materials has decreased by 
over 40 percent, which indicates that these affordable access programs 
are working. My understanding is that the Department has completely 
dismissed concerns from a wide range of colleges and universities, 
students, faculty, and other stakeholders that the Department's 
proposed regulations would undermine these affordable access programs.
    Has the Department conducted any studies to determine if its 
proposed changes are sustainable, and in particular whether students 
would still receive the same price discounts and automatic first-day-
of-class access under the Department's proposed ``opt-in'' framework?
    If not, will you commit to doing so before promulgating these 
regulations?
    Answer. The Department's current regulations permit schools to 
automatically charge students for books and supplies as part of tuition 
and fees, without student authorization, even when the materials can be 
obtained from a source other than the Institution. The regulations 
permit these charges if the school has a contract with a third-party 
publisher or retailer, offers the books ``below competitive market 
rates,'' and gives students a way to opt out, so long as the student 
can obtain the books and supplies by the seventh day of the payment 
period.
    As the Department explained in the first issue paper for the 
negotiated rulemaking committee, the Department has proposed additional 
rulemaking to address this policy issue due to a concern ``that lack of 
disclosure and transparency limits students' ability to find less 
expensive materials or assess if their school is offering the most 
affordable arrangement.'' In feedback received in negotiated rulemaking 
and the Department's review of the issue, we have seen that some ``opt-
out'' provisions are hidden or unclear and that costs are not truly 
below competitive market rates, with students repeatedly reporting that 
they can obtain books and supplies at a more affordable price. After 
consideration of information received from non-Federal negotiators and 
the public during the negotiated rulemaking sessions, the Department 
plans to release proposed language in a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking 
where it will seek additional public comment on the impact of the 
proposal.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith
    Question. Secretary Cardona, at last year's budget hearing, I 
questioned you about the level funding the Charter School Program has 
received since Fiscal Year 2019, despite the increase in demand and 
growing student waiting lists across the country. You said that your 
department would continue to support charter schools, however, you are 
now asking for a $40 million decrease for Fiscal Year 2025. This is 
almost a 10 percent cut.
    How is the Department of Education continuing to support charter 
schools as an option for students when you propose cutting a large 
percentage of these effective and beneficial funds?
    Answer. The Administration's FY 2025 budget request reflects tough 
decision- making for a number of Department programs due to tight 
discretionary spending caps. For Charter Schools Grants, the request 
also reflects declines in demand for funding since 2019, 2 years prior 
to this Administration, (including lower demand for continuation 
funding than initially requested by current grantees in their 
applications) under State Entity, Developer, and CMO grants, which is 
consistent with the slowed growth in the number of charter schools 
operating across the country. Historical program performance data show, 
for example, that the number of charter schools in operation increased 
by an average of 167 schools per year between 2016 and 2022 (from 6,859 
schools to 7,860 schools), compared with an average annual increase of 
311 schools between 2010 and 2016 (from 4,991 schools to 6,859 
schools).
    While reflecting a lower request level than in prior years, the 
Department believes the request would be able to meet demand for new 
and continuation awards and help ensure that program funds can be fully 
and appropriately expended without the need for excessive frontloading 
of out-year costs or the possibility of funds reverting to Treasury. 
Between fiscal years 2019 and 2023, for example, 10 annual State Entity 
continuation grant awards were cumulatively reduced by approximately 
$66 million, generally due to lower demand for subgrants to open or 
expand schools than grantees projected in their applications.
    In addition, between fiscal years 2019 and 2022, nine existing CMO 
grantees voluntarily terminated their projects or had their funding 
discontinued by the Department, and 30 annual CMO continuation grant 
awards were reduced by an amount totaling nearly $57 million, generally 
as a result of grantees' inability to replicate or expand the number of 
schools planned in their applications.
    With grantees needing less funding to support fewer school openings 
and expansions than anticipated, the Department has had to rely 
increasingly on frontloading grantees' out-year project costs, make 
supplemental awards, or reprogram funds to other programs in the 
Innovation and Improvement account to avoid lapsing funds.
    Question. A Bachelor's Degree, though valuable, is not the only 
path toward success for students. Many forego the traditional four-year 
university to attend community college for an Associate Degree or to 
enroll in short-term training courses--choosing which path best fits 
their personal goals. In many cases, these students are able to join 
the workforce quickly to contribute to the local and national economy.
    Do you agree that the extension of the use of Pell Grants for job 
training programs would be a good way to lead people, who are not 
interested in a traditional four-year college, into satisfying careers?
    Answer. Any policy that extends the use of Pell Grants should 
include strong guardrails to protect students and taxpayers, as not all 
short-term job training programs are high-quality and lead to good 
jobs. The existing short-term job training programs that are already 
eligible for Federal loans have shown low wage outcomes and high costs, 
particularly among for-profit programs. Any effort to expand Pell 
Grants should preclude for-profits from being eligible entities, 
increase data transparency, improve oversight, and remove Federal 
student aid eligibility for failing programs.
    Question. The rollout of the new FAFSA continues to have harmful 
effects on schools and students. Because of delays and calculation 
errors, the college admissions cycle has been absolutely destabilized. 
It is shocking to see just how badly this process is going, despite 
having years to prepare, as well as an extension.
    When did work on the new FAFSA begin, and was it a priority for the 
department?
    Answer. Implementing FAFSA Simplification Act and FUTURE Act have 
always been a top priority for the Department.
    Testing for the new FAFSA began in early 2022, and executive 
leadership at the Department has been working closely with Federal 
Student Aid and other offices within ED since fall 2022 to set 
priorities, oversee project planning and implementation, and ensure 
accountability for the development and launch of the 2024-25 FAFSA. 
This detailed and frequent oversight will continue leading up to and 
through the 2025-26 FAFSA.
    Question. Why did it take a year and a half for a contract to be 
made in June of 2022 to modernize the system?
    Answer. The Award Eligibility Determination (AED) solution replaced 
the 45- year-old Central Processing System (CPS) and modernized the 
processing of Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) forms. 
FSA conducted extensive market research to determine the most 
appropriate acquisition strategy to support its implementation; and FSA 
leveraged the results from this market research to ensure that all the 
appropriate tasks and legal review timeframes were built into the 
acquisition schedule to mitigate a pre- and post-award protest. For 
example, the review timeframes included extensive feedback 
opportunities for the FSA Contract Examiner, FSA Contract Review Panel, 
and the Department's Office of the General Counsel. Additionally, the 
schedule included the requisite timeframes to allow for contractors who 
offered a proposal to submit a pre- or post-award protest. With due 
diligence, the robust acquisitions schedule resulted in a solicitation 
award that did not result in any protests.
    Question. Secretary Cardona, when your confirmation was being 
considered by the Senate, you refused to take a position on Department 
of Education regulations protecting religious student groups, 34 CFR 
Sec. Sec. 75.500(d) and 76.500(d). These rules prohibit public college 
administrators from discriminating against student groups because of 
their sincerely held religious beliefs, speech, and leadership 
standards as a material condition of Department grants. However, your 
Department has proposed striking these protections in a Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking (RIN 1840-AD72).
    When do you anticipate issuing a final rule for RIN 1840-AD72?
    Is the Department reconsidering its proposed rule pursuant to 
Fellowship of Christian Athletes v. San Jose Unified School District, 
the recent en banc decision from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals 
requiring a California school district to end its discrimination 
against a religious student group?
    If you still plan on rescinding these protections for religious 
groups to choose leaders that affirm their faith, please explain how 
doing so is consistent with the promise you made during your 
confirmation process to ``adher[e] to the U.S. Constitution and Federal 
law as interpreted by the Courts.''
    Answer. On February 22, 2023, the Department published a Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking, RIN 1840-AD72, ``Direct Grant Programs, State-
Administered Formula Grant Programs,'' and requested written comments 
via the Federal eRulemaking Portal at regulations.gov as outlined in 
the February Federal Register Notice.\3\ The due date for submitting 
comments was March 24, 2023. We are carefully reviewing all comments we 
received in developing a final rule, which we expect to issue this 
fall. The Department also monitors relevant court decisions in 
consideration of its rules throughout the rulemaking process and will 
take them into consideration as appropriate.
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Direct Grant Programs, State-Administered Formula Grant Programs, 88 FR 
10857 (Feb. 22, 2023), https://www.Federalregister.gov/documents/2023/
02/22/2023-03670/direct- grant-programs-state-administered-formula-
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    Question. On April 29, 2024, your Department issued the final Title 
IX regulation, expanding the definition of ``sex'' to include sexual 
orientation and gender identity. Is it correct that under this new 
regulation, sororities and fraternities remain exempted, as they have 
always been, and may continue to make membership and leadership 
selections based on sex, including biological sex?
    Answer. On April 29, 2024, the Department published in the Federal 
Register a Notice of Final Rule (2024 Final Rule), which amends the 
Department's Title IX regulations effective August 1, 2024. The 2024 
Title IX Final Rule includes a provision, to be codified at 34 C.F.R. 
Sec. 106.10, that Title IX's prohibition on sex discrimination includes 
discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.
    Title IX includes several exceptions to its broad prohibition on 
sex discrimination in federally funded education programs and 
activities. One of those exceptions specifies that Title IX does not 
apply to membership practices of ``a social fraternity or social 
sorority which is exempt from taxation under section 501(a) of title 
26, the active membership of which consists primarily of students in 
attendance at an institution of higher education.'' 20 U.S.C. 
Sec. 1681(a)(6)(A). The Department did not propose any amendments to 
the corresponding regulation at 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.14(a) and that 
provision remains unchanged. Social fraternities and social sororities 
are therefore permitted under Title IX to set their own membership 
practices regarding any sex-based restrictions on their membership. 
Nothing in Title IX or its implementing regulations prohibits a 
fraternity from admitting transgender men or a sorority from admitting 
transgender women if it so chooses.
    The 2024 Final Rule includes a provision, to be codified at 34 
C.F.R. Sec. 106.31(a)(2), which recognizes that in the limited 
circumstances in which recipients are permitted to separate or 
differentiate on the basis of sex, recipients must carry out such 
separation consistent with the statute's nondiscrimination mandate, 20 
U.S.C. 1681, except when the statute itself allows otherwise. Section 
106.31(a)(2) identifies the statutory and regulatory provisions 
regarding the membership practices of social fraternities and social 
sororities as one such exception when the statute itself allows 
otherwise.
    Question. Is it your position that Title IX requires religious 
student groups operating as recognized student organizations on public 
school campuses to be bound by Title IX, and may not receive an 
exemption based on sincerely held religious beliefs?
    Answer. Since 1972, Title IX has provided that its prohibition on 
sex discrimination ``shall not apply to an educational institution 
which is controlled by a religious organization if the application of 
this subsection would not be consistent with the religious tenets of 
such organization.'' 20 U.S.C. 1681(a)(3). The 2024 Final Rule explains 
that educational institutions controlled by a religious organization 
can invoke Title IX's religious exemption, but, consistent with the 
statutory language, Title IX's religious exemption ``does not exempt 
student organizations, individual employees or students, or educational 
institutions not controlled by religious organizations.'' 89 Fed. Reg. 
33838.
    Question. If yes, how do you justify binding religious student 
groups by the nondiscrimination requirements of Title IX and refusing 
them the Title IX religious exemption?
    Answer. See response to above.
    Question. If no, what will you do to ensure that public schools do 
not attempt to impose Title IX's nondiscrimination provisions beyond 
their bounds?
    Answer. The Department is committed to enforcing Title IX 
consistent with all applicable free speech and religious liberty 
protections.
    Consistent with Sec. 106.6(d)(1), nothing in the Title IX 
regulations requires or authorizes a recipient to infringe on 
individuals' First Amendment or other constitutional rights. OCR, 
likewise, must act in accordance with the U.S. Constitution and OCR 
considers constitutional rights when it evaluates a recipient's 
compliance with Title IX. See 89 Fed. Reg. 33823.
    Question. Is it the Department of Education's position that the 
First Amendment's ministerial exception doctrine does not apply to 
Title IX claims?
    Answer. The 2024 Final Rule explains that ``[t]he Department 
recognizes the importance of religious freedoms, including the right 
for religious organizations to congregate and freely exercise their 
faith, as well as the doctrine of ministerial exception that precludes 
application of Title VII and other employment discrimination laws to 
the employment relationship between a religious institution and its 
ministers.'' 89 Fed. Reg. 33535. The 2024 Final Rule further ``notes 
that it is unclear the extent to which the First Amendment's 
ministerial exception doctrine applies to student religious 
organizations and Title IX, as the U.S. Supreme Court has not ruled on 
this question and some courts have declined to extend this exception 
beyond an employment law context. To the extent that a future court 
would find that the doctrine applies to Title IX, Sec. 106.6(d) 
instructs a recipient not to take action in violation of the First 
Amendment, which would include such an exception.'' 89 Fed. Reg. 33535-
36.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Marco Rubio
    Question. During your testimony before the subcommittee, you stated 
that you were very concerned about antisemitism and that the harassment 
Jewish students are currently facing is unacceptable. You said that 
that you have spoken with Jewish students who fear going to class due 
to the harassment they are facing on campus--students who have had to 
take different routes to class, and whose parents do not feel safe 
sending them to school. You specifically committed to remove Federal 
dollars if a college or university refuses to comply with Title VI. It 
is also true that individual students receive Federal support through 
several avenues, particularly through the administration's student debt 
cancellation plan, income-driven repayment plan, cancellation of 
interest on student loans, and other actions.
    To date, have any students who have been arrested, or convicted, of 
any Federal or state offense related to a protest over the Israel--
Hamas war at an institution of higher education received student debt 
relief under the administration's debt relief programs?
    If so, how much and to how many of the students?
    Going forward, will the administration take into account a 
student's actions at these protests when determining debt relief?
    Do students who espouse sentiments of ``Death to America'' deserve 
debt relief?
    Answer. Students currently enrolled at an institution of higher 
education are not eligible for debt relief. Nonetheless, calls to 
violence are absolutely abhorrent. If anyone creates a hostile learning 
environment for students, institutions of higher education have an 
obligation to act. Their primary obligation is to ensure students are 
safe. If investigations conclude that a student has incited violence 
against others, they may pursue disciplinary action that could result 
in suspension or expulsion.
    Question. The department's Office for Civil Rights (OCR) has the 
discretion to conduct compliance reviews to find and remedy 
discrimination at institutes of higher education that has not been 
identified through the traditional complaint process.
    How many Title VI compliance reviews has OCR, under your direction, 
initiated at universities that have failed to protect Jewish students 
against discrimination and harassment since October 7, 2023?
    Answer. Since October 7, 2023, OCR has received an influx of 
complaints filed at an unprecedented rate, challenging discrimination 
against Jewish students. We are working hard to open and investigate 
these cases at an unprecedented speed. In their 4 years, the previous 
Administration launched two nationwide initiatives of compliance 
reviews (neither of which were based on shared ancestry) and 27 total 
complaint investigations based on allegations of shared ancestry 
discrimination in all 4 years. Between October 1, 2023, and June 10, 
2024, OCR opened 118 cases of alleged shared ancestry discrimination, 
all based on complaints, and so far in this Administration OCR has 
already secured resolution agreements redressing investigations 
involving discrimination against Jewish students in more cases than the 
previous Administration secured in all 4 years.
    Question. To what degree has OCR increased these compliance reviews 
to find and remedy discrimination that was not identified through the 
compliant process?
    Answer. OCR continues to devote all resources to address alleged 
discrimination.
    Question. What is the department doing to raise awareness of 
students' option to file a discrimination complaint to OCR?
    Answer. OCR continues to emphasize in all of our public guidance 
documents as well as through outreach that anyone who believes that an 
entity that receives Federal financial assistance from the Department 
has discriminated against someone on the basis of race, color, national 
origin, sex, disability, or age may file a complaint with OCR. OCR has 
also initiated a technical assistance training initiative, informing 
school communities specifically about how the law applies to shared 
ancestry discrimination and the process to file a complaint with OCR. 
Under this initiative, OCR has held 24 trainings, engaging well over 
1,000 participants.
    Question. On November 6, 2023, Hillel International, the Anti-
Defamation League, the Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under 
Law, and Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP launched the Campus Antisemitism 
Legal Line (CALL), a free legal protection helpline for students who 
have experienced antisemitism. CALL was developed to allow any student, 
family, faculty, or staff member to report incidents of antisemitic 
discrimination, intimidation, harassment, vandalism, or violence on 
campus that might require legal action. Lawyers assess reports of 
antisemitic discrimination and hate, conduct in-depth information-
gathering interviews, and provide pro bono representation for victims 
who choose to move forward with specific cases. In the weeks following, 
CALL received more than 400 unique requests for assistance--showing 
that there is substantial need.
    As part of its Antisemitism Awareness Campaign, the department has 
committed to spotlighting and disseminating information about notable 
efforts by communities to prevent and address antisemitism. Has the 
department shared or distributed information about CALL, or other 
similar resources to provide free legal protection for Jewish students? 
If not, why?
    Answer. OCR vigorously enforces Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 
1964, including prohibiting discrimination on the basis of shared 
ancestry or ethnic characteristics. OCR has opened and resolved more 
cases on these topics in this Administration than in any prior 
administration, with over 145 open shared ancestry cases under 
Investigation as of July 2024. In comparison, the average number of 
open shared ancestry cases over the last 10 years is 25.
    Because public service is a public trust and government office 
cannot be used for private gain, see 5 C.F.R. Part 2365, the Department 
does not endorse any particular provider of legal services or direct 
students to any specific providers. However, OCR has provided 
guidance--more than in any prior Administration--to every federally 
funded school in the country reminding them of their Federal legal 
obligation to protect students' civil rights in this area. The Office 
has updated its complaint form and continues to provide technical 
assistance so that students know their rights and school leaders know 
their obligations. We encourage any student who has experienced 
discrimination at school to file a complaint.
    The Department is pairing OCR enforcement with more education, 
outreach, training, and resources than ever to build capacity for PK-12 
schools, universities, and community stakeholders. At ED.gov you can 
find a comprehensive overview of actions taken by the Department to 
counter antisemitic, anti-Muslim, and anti-Arab hate since October 7, 
2023. These include practical resources for teachers and school leaders 
including materials on countering antisemitism in PK-12 schools and 
universities reviewed and disseminated by the Department-funded 
National Center for Safe Supportive Learning Environments. And, in the 
coming weeks, the Department will release new materials and amplify 
effective strategies for supporting all students as the dynamics 
continue to evolve ahead of the fall semester. Also, we have and will 
continue to work closely with community leaders on countering 
antisemitism, including by offering them trainings on how to file Title 
VI complaints and meeting with them frequently to hear their feedback 
and suggestions.
    Question. I drafted report language that was included in the FY24 
appropriations legislation that requires the department to report on 
the presence and influence of Confucius Institutes in U.S. educational 
institutions and any steps it has taken to address undue influence 
within institutions of higher education.
    Will you commit to complete this report expeditiously and share 
updates with my office?
    Answer. According to a GAO report issued in October 2023 on the 
topic, the number of Confucius Institutes at U.S. universities has 
significantly declined since 2019, from nearly 100 to fewer than five. 
That same report also documented several steps that universities 
implemented to mitigate concerns or risks associated with hosting a 
Confucius Institute: (1) ensuring that exchange visitors had no 
decisionmaking authority on campus; (2) creating accountability for the 
U.S. director of the Institute to senior officials at the school; and 
(3) maintaining full control over Chinese language courses by the 
schools' academic departments or other appropriate units.
    With nearly all Confucius Institutes closed at this point, the 
higher education community is focused on identifying new and emerging 
threats, in partnership with all relevant national security agencies. 
For example, to help ensure that agencies responsible for protecting 
against foreign malign influence in higher education have the 
information they need, the Department finalized an information-sharing 
agreement with the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National 
Counterintelligence Taskforce. This agreement will better enable the 
Federal government to help institutions identify and protect against 
the risks of foreign malign influence. Additionally, colleges and 
universities can also apply the steps that GAO's report documented to 
mitigate risks from other international partnerships.
    Question. Will you commit to investigate the link between foreign 
gifts to institutes of higher education and the rise in campus 
antisemitism?
    Answer. The Department remains committed to ensuring robust 
compliance with section 117. Under section 117, institutions of higher 
education must file a disclosure report with the Secretary of Education 
on January 31, or July 31, whichever is sooner, whenever any 
institution is owned or controlled by a statutorily defined source, or 
whenever an institution receives a gift from or enters into a contract 
with a foreign source, the value of which is $250,000 or more, 
considered alone or in combination with all other gifts from or 
contracts with that foreign source within a calendar year.\4\
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    This disclosure requirement is an important measure in ensuring 
transparency and identifying possible foreign influence in U.S. higher 
education. More information about section 117 can be found on Federal 
Student Aid's webpage, available at https://fsapartners.ed.gov/
knowledge-center/topics/section-117-foreign-gift-and-contract-
reporting. Section 117 is a transparency statute, and the Department's 
responsibilities under section 117 are focused on ensuring compliance 
with reporting requirements.
    The Department is concerned about the rise of antisemitic incidents 
at our nation's colleges and universities, as well as in PreK-12 
schools and remains committed to protecting the civil rights of all 
students, including Jewish students. The Department's Office for Civil 
Rights (OCR) works every day to ensure that the civil rights of all 
students are protected. The Department has committed substantial 
efforts to preventing and addressing antisemitic discrimination in 
school communities, both before and since October 7, 2023. In January 
2023, OCR released a fact sheet, Protecting Students from 
Discrimination Based on Shared Ancestry or Ethnic Characteristics and 
in May 2023, OCR issued a Dear Colleague Letter as part of the 
Department's Antisemitism Awareness Campaign, in conjuncture with the 
release of the White House-led U.S. Strategy to Counter Antisemitism. 
In August 2023, OCR released a Dear Colleague Letter addressing race 
and school programming that specifically included examples related to 
antisemitism as well as to the creation of a hostile environment 
resulting from inflammatory campus speech that endorses violence.
    Since the proliferation of hate incidents reported in school 
communities following October 7, OCR has taken further steps to ensure 
full compliance with the Title VI obligations in schools. On November 
7, 2023, OCR released a Dear Colleague Letter, which once again 
reminded schools of their legal obligation under Title VI to address 
allegations of prohibited discrimination, including harassment. OCR 
also updated its complaint form to specific for the first time that 
Title VI's protection from discrimination based on race, color, or 
national origin, including shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics, 
extends to students who are perceived to be Jewish, Muslim, Arab, 
Hindu, or Sikh.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Susan M. Collins
    Question. Institutions of higher education are still awaiting 
direction regarding the processing of FAFSA forms for the 2024-2025 
school year.
    When will the Department begin to process paper FAFSAs?
    Answer. The Department will begin processing 2024-25 paper FAFSA 
forms in July.
    Question. When will the Department provide direction and timeline 
for financial aid administrators to provide corrections to ISIRs in 
cases where students would like to use tax information from 2023 or 
projected earnings from 2024 due to an event that significantly changes 
their family's income?
    Answer. The Department released the FAFSA Partner Portal (FPP) in 
early July that can be used by schools to submit corrections 
electronically.
    Question. The majority of Maine's schools and school districts are 
small and rural, which means they are often at a disadvantage when it 
comes to applying for competitive Federal funds. In 2002, I co-authored 
the Rural Education Achievement Program (REAP). In a tough fiscal year 
with limited program increases, the FY2024 Labor-HHS bill increased 
REAP by $5 million, so I was disappointed to see that the budget 
suggested returning the program to FY2023 levels. This key formula 
grant program is designed to help rural districts, like many in Maine, 
that may lack the personnel and resources to effectively compete for 
Federal competitive grants.
    What is the Department doing to lighten the burden on rural schools 
so that they can compete for competitive grants?
    Answer. The Department is including competition priorities or other 
means of advantage in grant competitions for rural applicants in 
several competitions in FY 2024. Additionally, the Department is 
revising the Education Department General Administrative Regulations by 
proposing to include a priority for rural applicants, codifying the 
Rural Applicants priority from the Department's Administrative 
Priorities that would allow the Secretary to establish a separate 
competition for, or provide competitive preference to, applicants that 
propose to serve rural locations. As a clarification, funding amounts 
for the President's Budget were finalized prior to final congressional 
action on FY 2024 appropriations, which provided an increase for REAP.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Baldwin. And our committee will now stand in 
recess.
    [Whereupon, at 11:18 a.m., Tuesday, April 30, the 
subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene subject to the call of 
the Chair.]


 
  DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND 
          RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                         THURSDAY, MAY 9, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., in room SD-138, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Tammy Baldwin (chair) presiding.
    Present: Senators Baldwin, Murray, Reed, Shaheen, Schatz, 
Manchin, Capito, Kennedy, Hyde-Smith, Boozman, Britt, and 
Collins.

                          DEPARTMENT OF LABOR

                        Office of the Secretary

STATEMENT OF HON. JULIE SU, ACTING SECRETARY

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR TAMMY BALDWIN

    Senator Baldwin. The Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on 
Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related 
Agencies will please come to order.
    Good morning. Today we are having a hearing on the Biden 
administration's fiscal year 2025 budget request for the 
Department of Labor, and I'm happy to welcome Acting Secretary 
Su to our subcommittee.
    As we did last year in the Senate, I'm looking forward to 
working in a bipartisan manner again this year with Senator 
Capito to develop a Labor HHS (Health and Human Services) bill 
that can pass the Senate, pass the House, and be signed into 
law by the President. That means looking for the common ground 
instead of pursuing partisan policy riders and draconian cuts 
to workforce development and worker protection programs.
    When a small minority is able to derail the appropriations 
process, like House Republicans did last year, repeatedly 
threatening government shutdowns, it hurts our constituents, 
our communities intended to be served by our Federal programs. 
It causes Federal agencies to waste time and money, instead of 
working to make sure every dollar is used effectively as 
intended by the laws we pass here in the Congress.
    We need to do better. And Acting Secretary, I think this 
budget is a good first step.
    Acting Secretary Su, you join us today to talk about the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget for the Department of 
Labor. We have had 27 months in a row of unemployment below 4 
percent, the longest stretch in 50 years. But I know that we 
still have more work to do to give Americans the economic 
security that they need and deserve.
    Over the last few years, Democrats and Republicans came 
together to pass landmark legislation that invests in 
manufacturing, helps us compete against China, invests in our 
aging infrastructure, and importantly, invests in our workers.

                INVESTING IN WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAMS

    And just this week, we are seeing the dividends. In my home 
State of Wisconsin, Microsoft announced that they will be 
investing $3.3 billion for an artificial intelligence data 
center complex, creating thousands of good-paying union jobs, 
and investing in education and job training programs for the 
next generation.
    This budget builds on this progress that we have made, and 
will help continue to build a strong economy that works for 
workers. It proposes investments necessary for training the 
workforce that we need today, and the evolving needs of 
employers.
    The budget also requests resources to maintain critical 
investments in our Nation's core workforce training programs. 
These programs help support workers and their families by 
providing them with access to high quality training programs as 
they seek to grow their careers.
    This includes programs to improve our Nation's public 
workforce system, boost our community college system, help ex-
offenders land on their feet, and address the employment and 
training needs of Native Americans, migrant and seasonal 
workers, and other workers.
    High quality workforce training programs are a proven path 
to accessing a job that pays a good wage and has good benefits. 
And I am pleased that this budget continues to support these 
important programs.

                   REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM

    The budget also includes a request, a proposed increase in 
funding for the Registered Apprenticeship Program. I have been 
proud to lead the effort to reauthorize the National 
Apprenticeship Act with my colleague, Senator Lisa Murkowski, 
and I am pleased that the Department is proposing to expand 
apprenticeships and increase opportunities for individuals who 
have historically not had access to apprenticeships programs, 
including women, people of color, and underrepresented groups.
    Apprenticeship programs provide technical instruction and 
on-the-job learning experiences to ensure that workers are well 
prepared for jobs. According to the Wisconsin Department of 
Workforce Development, employers in Wisconsin train around 
10,000 registered apprenticeships in nearly 200 occupations 
every year. Supporting the Federal Registered Apprenticeship 
Program will help Wisconsin and other States continue to 
strengthen and grow their apprenticeship programs.

                  WORKFORCE TRAINING SERVICES FOR VETS

    The budget includes funds for the Department of Veterans' 
Employment and Training Service, which provides workforce 
training services for our Nation's veterans and separating 
service members. These resources help ensure that our service 
members can transfer the skills that they learned serving our 
country to land a family-supporting job and help them 
successfully transition into the workforce. The Department's 
VETS (Veterans' Employment and Training Service) office 
provides critical services to military spouses as they make the 
transition to civilian life, and I look forward to hearing more 
about how the President's budget request would support the 
workforce and training needs of veterans and their families.

                         WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION

    Acting Secretary Su, I'm also pleased to see the increased 
investment in the Wage and Hour Division. The proposed $35 
million increase is needed to recover the hard-earned wages 
owed to workers stolen by their employers.
    Last year, Wage and Hour was able to recover more than $156 
million in Federal minimum wage and overtime owed to more than 
135,000 workers. In Wisconsin, Wage and Hour investigations 
last year identified more than $3 million in back wages owed to 
over 1,400 workers.
    This funding is also critical to enforcing child labor 
laws, and ensuring that when youth are working, they are doing 
so safely and appropriately. There has been extensive recent 
reporting of egregious incidences of child labor violations. As 
long as corporations think that they can ignore Federal child 
labor laws, kids will continue to be put at risk, including 13-
year-olds working overnight shifts in slaughterhouses and 
meatpacking facilities.
    Wage and Hour staffing has fallen to historic lows, and I 
believe we must provide an increase for the agency's important 
work.

             OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION

    The budget request also includes an additional $23 million 
for the vital work of the Occupational Safety and Health 
Administration. We've just marked Workers' Memorial Day on 
April 28, remembering workers who've died or been injured while 
on the job.
    Our latest fatality statistics indicate that there were 
5,486 fatal workplace injuries in 2022, up nearly 6 percent 
from the prior year. That's 5,486 too many. We must do better 
for workers, and I believe the proposed increase would move us 
in the right direction.

               EMPLOYEE BENEFITS SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    The proposed $15 million increase for the Employee Benefits 
Security Administration would help secure workplace-based 
benefits workers and their families are owed.
    I'm also pleased to see the increased investment of $46 
million for the Bureau of International Labor Affairs. That 
would help strengthen implementation of labor commitments of 
our trading partners and combat international forced labor, 
including in China. We can and must strengthen the economic 
security of our communities at home by our government working 
to eliminate labor abuses abroad.
    Acting Secretary Su, thank you for being here today to talk 
about the Department of Labor's important work.
    In a moment, I'm going to turn it over to Ranking Member 
Capito for her opening remarks. And following her opening 
remarks, we will hear directly from you, Acting Secretary Su. 
And after that, Senators will each have 5 minutes for a round 
of questions.
    Senator Capito.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO

    Senator Capito. Thank you, Chair Baldwin. And thank you for 
having the hearing. This is the first Labor budget hearing that 
we've actually had since we took over the reins of the Labor 
HHS subcommittee.
    So Acting Secretary Su, thank you for coming. You did not 
appear last year, in part because the budget came out right as 
Secretary Walsh was leaving the department. So thank you for 
being here today to describe the fiscal year 2025 budget 
priorities for the Department of Labor.

           NEW RULES IMPACTING INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR STATUS

    First of all, I will say I have had some concerns with the 
Department. There seems to be an agenda to push new regulations 
that impose layers of red tape and in some cases hurt worker 
choice. West Virginia needs fewer inefficient and expensive 
regulations and more job creation.
    To be clear, not all regulations are bad. I applaud efforts 
to curb child labor violations that the Chair was talking 
about, and to keep hard working West Virginians, including our 
minors, safe. So thank you for your efforts there.
    But the Department of Labor should be focused on workforce 
training and creating new jobs, not mandating new burdens that 
take away worker choice and flexibility.
    For example, the Wage and Hour Division earlier this year 
changed the rules governing who qualifies as an independent 
contractor. This new rule imposes a complicated six-factor test 
that allows bureaucrats to decide who is and is not an 
independent contractor, jeopardizing the ability of 27 million 
Americans to work in a way that best fits their needs and 
schedules.
    This regulation takes away the freedom for West Virginia 
real estate agents, truck drivers, freelance workers, and other 
self-employed workers to choose their own hours and work around 
other life priorities, such as going back to school or taking 
care of your children--raising the children.

                          ESG INVESTMENT RULE

    Another regulation that creates more complexity and 
undermines workers' livelihood is the so called ESG Investment 
Rule. This rule allows and even pressures retirement fund 
fiduciaries to consider environmental, social, and governance 
factors in their investment decisions involving workers' hard-
earned life savings.
    West Virginians who work today and save for tomorrow need 
to be able to optimize their returns to afford life in 
retirement. But this rule pressures financial experts to shift 
potential gains away from American retirees, and into the White 
House's radical climate agenda.
    And just last month, your Department further curbed worker 
flexibility and imposed sweeping new costs on businesses by 
drastically increasing the overtime salary threshold.
    Starting July 1, West Virginia businesses of all sizes, 
including nonprofits and small businesses, will have to figure 
out how to absorb this mandate. This costly change is likely to 
result in fewer hours worked and more restrictions for 
employees, and in some cases, even layoffs.
    Instead of doubling down on this agenda, the Department of 
Labor should focus instead on job creation in areas of 
bipartisan support.

                        APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS

    One area, and the Chair also talked about this, where I 
hope we can find some room for agreement is with the 
apprenticeship programs. This budget requests an increase of 
$50 million over fiscal year 2024 for the apprenticeship grant 
program.
    While I'm concerned that your budget would use this 
apprenticeship grant funding to support a green jobs agenda, I 
remain committed to increasing opportunities for West 
Virginians to succeed, and know apprenticeships can play a key 
role in that mission.
    I support Registered Apprenticeship programs, which is why 
I'm also concerned about the Department's proposal released 
late last year to completely overhaul the regulations governing 
the Registered Apprenticeship program. These proposed changes 
will make an already complex system even more difficult for 
employers to navigate, and I think it could reduce Registered 
Apprenticeship opportunities for workers across the country.
    There are a lot of worthy apprenticeship opportunities that 
don't fit the current Registered Apprenticeship model. I'd like 
to see the innovation to expand those apprenticeship 
opportunities to new programs and fields.
    In 2022, I secured funding for Marshall University to 
establish an apprenticeship initiative through Apprenticeships 
Works to train West Virginians to compete for good-paying, 
long-term jobs across the State.
    I've also been a longtime champion of expanding and 
strengthening the early childhood education workforce through 
apprenticeships. Giving our educators a clear path to 
successful careers opens the doors to higher quality and better 
coverage of care, helping both families and child care workers 
in our State.
    The Department of Labor should be focused on strengthening 
workforce development strategies that help all Americans get 
the skills they need to succeed.
    Acting Secretary Su, I hope you will work with this 
congress on that goal as we work through the fiscal year 2025 
process. And thank you again for being here.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Capito. Our witness 
today is Julie Su, the acting Secretary of the Department of 
Labor.
    Acting Secretary Su, thank you for joining us. You will 
have 5 minutes for your opening remarks, and you may begin.

                   SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. JULIE SU

    Ms. Su. Thank you so much. Chairwoman Baldwin, Ranking 
Member Capito, and members of the subcommittee, thank you for 
the opportunity to testify in support of President Biden's 
fiscal year 2025 budget request for the Department of Labor.
    As the acting Secretary of Labor, I get to travel the 
country to meet with workers. Workers like Mariah, a single mom 
who was living paycheck to paycheck, worried every day about 
how she would have enough to get by.
    She went to her local Social Services office to apply for 
SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) and Medicaid 
benefits, and that's where she noticed a flyer for a job 
training program in the pipe trades. Today, Mariah is in a good 
union job, and she has quadrupled her income.
    What struck me about Mariah was not just how much a good 
income meant to her. It was the pride she felt in putting in a 
hard day's work and getting rewarded for it, and the pride she 
saw in her children's eyes.
    It's undeniable. Good jobs change lives. This $13.9 billion 
request will help more people like Mariah get good jobs that 
can support families, lift up communities, and bring the 
dignity and pride that are core to the American dream.
    I want to frame our request under two priority areas.
    First, pathways to good jobs for all of America's workers. 
I've met with thousands of workers like Mariah who are in 
programs that work, programs that exist because we've invested 
in them.
    That's why we're requesting investments to develop and 
expand proven models, as Chairwoman Baldwin said, to connect 
workers to the good jobs they want and need, and employers to 
the workers that they want and need.
    For example, we're requesting $8 billion for the Career 
Training Fund. That investment would help as many as 750,000 
people who do not see 4-year college as their path enroll in 
evidence-based, high quality training programs for actual jobs 
in their communities. Workers who complete high quality 
programs don't end up with a job search, they end up with a 
good job.
    We also seek $335 million for apprenticeship programs. 
Registered Apprenticeships provide training for the actual 
skills that employers need. They allow workers to earn while 
they learn, and they increase job pathways for underrepresented 
groups including women, people of color, veterans, and 
individuals with disabilities.
    When I talk to business owners, many tell me that their top 
concern is recruiting and retaining workers. Well, the 
investments in our budget request are how Congress and the 
Department of Labor can tap into the talents and skills of all 
of America's workers, and make sure that the supply of skilled 
workers meets the demand, right now and well into the future.

                       ENFORCING CHILD LABOR LAWS

    The second priority I'd like to highlight is the Department 
of Labor's mission to protect workers including, and 
especially, those most vulnerable to exploitation. Too often, 
employers who hire 13-year-olds to work in hazardous conditions 
fail to pay workers overtime for 60-hour work weeks, or who put 
workers at risk of losing their limbs or even their lives on 
the job, do it because they believe they'll get away with it--
that no one will stop them, that they can operate in blatant 
disregard of the laws that Congress has passed.
    Not on our watch. That's why we're requesting modest but 
important increases for the Department's worker protection 
agencies. Because we can't do this vital work without dedicated 
public servants. The Wage and Hour investigators who combat 
child labor, the team that ensures workplaces are free from 
safety hazards, the benefits advisors who answer the phone when 
panicked patients have been denied coverage for mental health 
services by their health insurance company.
    We're asking for $7.5 million for additional staff to 
combat wage theft and child labor; an additional $23 million to 
investigate high hazard workplaces, protect whistleblowers, and 
give employers compliance assistance; and an additional $10.7 
million for my solicitor's office, which has been essentially 
flat-funded for more than a decade.

                          WORKFORCE PROTECTION

    The President's request would also help us advance worker 
rights and promote a level playing field internationally for 
U.S. workers and businesses. And, it would better support 
implementation of Congress's Secure 2.0 Act, the Mental Health 
Parity and Addiction Equity Act, and the No Surprises Act. 
Because when Congress passes laws, we should make them real.
    In all, this budget request will help make sure that 
workers can come home safe and healthy at the end of the 
workday and get high quality jobs with the power to truly 
change lives.
    Again, I thank the subcommittee, and I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The statement follows:]
                     Prepared Statement of Julie Su
    Chairwoman Baldwin, Ranking Member Capito, and members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the invitation to testify today. I am 
pleased to appear before this Subcommittee to highlight the investments 
that President Biden's Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget makes in the 
Department of Labor (DOL or Department).
    President Biden knows that good jobs change lives. The $13.9 
billion FY 2025 Budget for the Department continues to build on the 
Biden-Harris Administration's principles for growing a worker-centered 
economy from the bottom up and the middle out by creating pathways to 
good jobs and expanding equitable opportunities, while empowering and 
protecting workers and their families. The President's Budget does so 
in a cost-effective manner by proposing some shifts to prioritize 
critically important programs while remaining within the discretionary 
budget caps set by the Fiscal Responsibility Act.
Promoting job quality and pathways to good jobs for all workers, 
        especially historically underserved workers.
    The FY 2025 Budget expands workforce training that provides 
pathways to good jobs. It advances the President's historic legislative 
accomplishments rebuilding the Nation's infrastructure, supporting 
clean energy, and boosting American manufacturing that have and will 
create millions of good, high-quality jobs. In support of this effort, 
the Budget invests in effective, evidence-based training models to 
ensure that all workers, including women, workers of color, those 
living in rural areas, and workers with disabilities, have the skills 
they need to compete for and fill these and other jobs. This includes 
major new investments through the $8 billion mandatory Career Training 
Fund and a new $50 million investment in the Sectoral Employment 
through Career Training for Occupational Readiness program, both of 
which will support the development and expansion of public-private 
partnerships between employers, education and training providers, and 
community-based groups to equitably deliver high-quality training 
focused on growing industries. The Career Training Fund, as proposed in 
the budget, would provide full funding for 750,000 individuals to 
enroll in evidence-based, high-quality training programs that are 
proven to deliver sustained earnings increases.
    The Budget also invests $335 million in apprenticeship programs, 
increasing access for underrepresented groups, including women, people 
of color, and individuals with a disability, and diversifying the 
industry sectors involved. The Department continues making progress on 
the President's goal to serve at least one million apprentices annually 
within 10 years, advancing racial and gender equity, and supporting 
historically underserved and marginalized communities. Within the 
request is a $50 million increase to expand existing Registered 
Apprenticeship programs in clean energy and climate-related 
occupations. This investment will support successful implementation of 
the Inflation Reduction Act, prepare workers for the in-demand jobs of 
the present and future, and help build a thriving clean energy economy. 
Apprenticeship funds will also enhance the Department's support for 
pre-apprenticeships, youth apprenticeships, and degreed apprenticeships 
to ensure that more people have access to career pathways.
    Similarly, the Department's request includes $5 million for the 
Women in Apprenticeship and Non-Traditional Occupations (WANTO) grant 
program. The Department's Women's Bureau will leverage proven pre-
apprenticeship training and Registered Apprenticeship retention models 
across the Nation, so that more women can enter and succeed in high-
quality jobs in a variety of in-demand, nontraditional occupations.
    While pursuing career paths, women disproportionately are impacted 
by the high cost of childcare, which, in turn, impacts their ability to 
work. The National Database of Childcare Prices shows that childcare 
prices are untenable for families across all care types, age groups, 
and county population sizes. Ninety-four percent of all childcare 
workers in the U.S. are women, and childcare workers receive among the 
lowest wages of any occupation. As a country and as a government, we 
must do more to prioritize workers and their families.
    The Biden-Harris Administration has invested in the Nation's 
economy, creating millions of jobs over the past 3 years. Further, 
through the Good Jobs Initiative, we have embedded key principles 
regarding job quality, equity, and worker empowerment in Federal 
funding to ensure that the jobs that are created are good jobs that 
provide stability and security for workers and their families. In 
total, the Department has entered into agreements with six other 
Federal agencies, resulting in $239.6 billion of Investing In America 
(IIA) funds with equity and job quality incentives included in 141 IIA 
Funding Opportunity Announcements. To build on this work, this Budget 
requests an additional $2 million to provide training and technical 
assistance to other Federal agencies as they work to embed and promote 
the Good Jobs Principles in procurement, loans, grants, and other 
Federal financial assistance; and provide a centralized location for 
information and services on workers' rights. Good jobs accessible to 
all workers, including workers from underserved communities, are the 
foundation of an equitable economy, and by supporting workers, we make 
families and economies more competitive globally.
Protecting the rights, wages, health and safety, and benefits of all 
        workers, but especially the most vulnerable.
    One of the Department of Labor's primary roles is to protect 
workers' wages, benefits, and working conditions. And it is the 
dedicated public servants at the Department who do that critical work. 
This is why the FY 2025 Budget requests modest but important increases 
for the Department's worker protection agencies, particularly funding 
to maintain enforcement staff.
    This includes wage and hour investigators who help ensure children 
are not working in dangerous occupations. While positive and safe first 
work experiences can allow young people to develop skills, earn money, 
and learn what it means to be part of the labor force, a job should not 
jeopardize a child's well-being or their educational opportunities. And 
yet, every year, the Department's Wage and Hour Division (WHD) is 
finding thousands of young workers employed in violation of the law. 
The Department's request for WHD includes $7.5 million to support 50 
additional enforcement staff to protect our country's most vulnerable 
workers and combat exploitative child labor. The increased resources 
will allow WHD to maintain its progress in rebuilding enforcement staff 
responsible for carrying out mission-critical, evidence-based 
strategies and delivering on high-impact cases. In addition, the 
Department requests an additional $3.8 million for 19 staff in the 
Office of the Solicitor of Labor (SOL) for legal services to combat 
exploitative child labor, ensuring that WHD's work has the teeth of 
legal enforcement. The Department is committed to combatting all forms 
of illegal child labor because we cannot build our economy on the backs 
of children.
    The Department's work continues by protecting the health and safety 
of workers in high- risk occupations.
    The FY 2025 Budget provides an increase of more than $23 million 
over the FY 2024 enacted level for the Occupational Safety and Health 
Administration (OSHA) to help the agency maintain its enforcement 
presence, particularly in vulnerable and underserved communities.
    This includes staff to investigate high-hazard workplaces, 
enhancing OSHA's enforcement presence; prioritizing outreach and 
training in vulnerable and underserved communities; and improving 
workplace safety and health across the country. Additionally, the 
agency will continue to carry out critical enforcement and 
whistleblower programs, standard- setting activities, and compliance 
assistance programs.
    In addition to OSHA, the Mine Safety and Health Administration 
(MSHA) focuses its worker protection efforts on the more than 322,000 
people who work directly in the mining industry at more than 12,600 
mines nationwide. The request includes increases of over $18 million to 
support MSHA staff, allowing the agency to complete statutorily 
mandated inspections and investigations and expand efforts to work with 
the mining community to reduce fatalities, injuries, and illnesses.
    The Department further levels the playing field for all employers 
by holding scofflaw employers accountable and protecting workers from 
retaliation for enforcing their rights. Companies that choose to ignore 
the law and endanger or underpay their employees are undercutting other 
employers who comply with the law. This is why additional resources for 
SOL are so critical.
    The President's Budget requests an additional $10.7 million for SOL 
to help mitigate the effects of over a decade of near-flat funding and 
the depletion of supplemental appropriated funding from the American 
Rescue Plan Act. Without additional resources, SOL will have to 
significantly reduce its workforce, triggering a reduction in cases 
litigated, reducing pre-litigation advice and assistance, and lessening 
support for the worker protection agencies in developing and pursuing 
litigation-worthy cases. Meeting the demand for legal services at all 
steps in the enforcement process is a critical part of protecting 
workers' pay, benefits, safety and health, and rights.
    The Budget also addresses the Department's international work. The 
Bureau of International Labor Affairs (ILAB) advances worker rights and 
promotes a fair global playing field by enforcing trade commitments, 
strengthening compliance with labor standards, and combating 
international child labor, forced labor, and human trafficking. The 
Budget includes a program increase of $45 million for technical 
assistance funding related to the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Act (USMCA) 
following the expiration of the supplemental appropriation in December 
2023. This program increase will allow the Department to continue 
Mexico-specific technical assistance through awards of grants, 
contracts, and cooperative agreements, primarily to nongovernmental 
organizations whose projects and activities support USMCA 
implementation, including building capacity to legislate and implement 
new labor protections, improve working conditions, stabilize labor 
relations, and increase public awareness and engagement. ILAB will also 
continue its enforcement and monitoring of the labor provisions of the 
USMCA, including use of the facility-specific Rapid Response Mechanism 
and labor attaches stationed in Mexico to ensure compliance.
    Finally, the Department of Labor protects workers beyond the 
workplace and into retirement by ensuring that their hard-earned and 
promised benefits are available.
    The Department requests $4.7 million for the Employee Benefits 
Security Administration (EBSA) to implement provisions of the SECURE 
2.0 Act, which was enacted under the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 
2023. Although EBSA's reach is extraordinarily broad, with additional 
responsibilities added by Congress, its budget has not increased 
proportionally with the increased responsibilities. With the requested 
resources, EBSA will implement a wide range of retirement-focused 
provisions and numerous new requirements established under the SECURE 
2.0 Act, which includes amendments to existing law as well as new 
provisions focused on increasing retirement savings, improving rules 
governing the administration of retirement plans, and lowering the cost 
of setting up retirement plans.
    In addition, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021 included 
supplemental funds for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human 
Services and Treasury to implement and enforce the Mental Health Parity 
and Addiction Equity Act (MHPAEA) and the No Surprises Act. Those funds 
expire at the end of 2024, though EBSA's obligations and ongoing work 
to implement and enforce these laws continues. Fully one-third of 
EBSA's enforcement staff are paid out of these supplemental No 
Surprises Act resources, which will soon expire. The Budget request for 
the Department of Health and Human Services proposes to replenish and 
extend this supplemental No Surprises Act and MHPAEA funding. The 
agency, and the participants and beneficiaries it works to protect, can 
ill afford the precipitous loss of staff that would result from the 
loss of supplemental funding.
                            advancing equity
    The Department remains steadfast in our commitment to building a 
worker-centered economy in a way that expands equitable opportunities. 
This begins by ensuring that workers can access the Department and its 
programs.
    The Department is committed to providing meaningful language access 
for individuals with limited English proficiency (LEP). The Department 
released its updated Language Access Plan in November 2023 and 
established the Centralized Office of Language Assistance, a new office 
within in the Department's Civil Rights Center. This office is 
dedicated to supporting the language assistance efforts of individual 
Department agencies to ensure that activities, programs, and services 
conducted by the Department are accessible to individuals with LEP.
    The Department also recognizes the need for expanded disaggregated 
data by race and ethnicity, as well as gender and other demographics in 
order to make informed decisions. To better provide this information, 
the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has expanded available labor 
market indicators, including for the American Indian and Alaska Native; 
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander; and detailed Asian and Hispanic 
or Latino communities. Beginning in September 2022, BLS published data 
that includes key economic metrics, such as the unemployment rate, 
employment-population ratio, and the labor force participation rate for 
the Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander community, and, in September 
2023, began publishing monthly estimates of these metrics for detailed 
Asian groups. BLS also added labor force estimates for detailed 
Hispanic and Latino groups to its online database in October 2023.
    Finally, the Department also serves workers who have lost their job 
due to no fault of their own. As the COVID-19 pandemic showed, the 
unemployment insurance (UI) system is essential, and any delay in this 
critical earned benefit can have devastating consequences for families, 
particularly low-income families, and for the economy as a whole. The 
FY 2025 Budget improves states' ability to serve UI claimants more 
quickly and effectively by fully funding the formula for determining 
the amount states need to administer UI benefits based on current 
economic assumptions. The Budget also proposes resources to continue 
the Department's work to reduce identity fraud and to provide other 
critical supports to the states, as well as legislative proposals to 
improve UI integrity.
    The Department continues to use funding received through the 
American Rescue Plan Act to advance equity in the UI system by ensuring 
that all workers can securely access their hard- earned benefits. To 
date, the Department has awarded $219 million in grants to 45 states 
and the District of Columbia to address and improve equitable access to 
UI programs. Additionally, we have partnered with the General Services 
Administration and the U.S. Postal Service to provide both online and 
in-person options for UI claimants to verify their identity. Through 
the Department's identity verification services, we can ensure that the 
right payments go to the right workers without creating unnecessary 
barriers that disproportionately harm the most vulnerable workers.
                               conclusion
    The Department is putting workers at the center of the Biden-Harris 
Administration's historic economic agenda and playing a leading role in 
the most pro-union administration in history.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to appear before you today, and 
I look forward to your questions.

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Acting Secretary Su. We will 
now begin a round of 5-minute questions, starting with myself, 
and then Senator Capito.

                U.S. WORKFORCE REDUCTION IMPACTS & WARN

    Acting Secretary Su, I am deeply troubled by CNH 
Industrial's recent decision to lay off over 200 workers at a 
facility in Racine, Wisconsin, and move production to Mexico.
    Agricultural machinery has been made by workers in my home 
State for over 175 years. They have made Case New Holland, into 
the international manufacturing powerhouse that it is today.
    Even after delivering record profits for the company, plant 
workers at Racine are being told that their services are too 
expensive and are no longer welcome.
    An average worker at the Racine plant earns $52,000 
annually. CNH spent over $652 million in stock buybacks last 
year, or four times more than the $150 million they hope to 
save by reducing their workforce.
    Moving production to Mexico would not only be a slap in the 
face to the workers who have given so much, but it would 
destroy the institutional knowledge that the plant's workforce 
has developed over decades of building agricultural equipment.
    American workers are the best in the world, yet they face 
unfair disadvantages when it comes to competing against low-
road employers in other countries, engaging in a race to the 
bottom and exploiting workers.
    So can you start by expanding on how the budget would 
promote a fair global playing field and protect workers' 
paychecks here at home by advancing workers' rights abroad?
    Ms. Su. Chairwoman Baldwin, thank you so much. And thank 
you also for your opening comments about the President's 
announcement yesterday in Racine, which demonstrates that the 
race to the bottom is not the only option. We can, with the 
right investments, create a race to the top in which America's 
workers benefit, America's businesses benefit, and our economy 
and our country are stronger.

                             ILAB'S MISSION

    To your question, one of our agencies is ILAB, the 
International Labor Affairs Bureau. And the premise behind ILAB 
is the idea that the interests and welfare of working people in 
other countries is intricately tied to the welfare of workers 
in the United States.
    Too often I also hear what you have just suggested, which 
is companies saying that if we demand that workers do well in 
this country, we're going to take our work to another country 
in which there are even more vulnerable workers.
    And the work of ILAB is intended to create a more level 
playing field. ILAB engages in research and advocacy to make 
sure that conditions like child labor and forced labor in other 
countries are not condoned, that when goods that are made in 
such conditions try to enter the United States, that we do not 
allow that.
    We have also been very engaged in--in helping to monitor 
and assist the country of Mexico in implementation of the 
United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement that would help make sure 
that workers in Mexico also have their fair and free choice to 
join a union and to protect their working conditions--again, so 
that we really end the race to the bottom, as you mentioned.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you for that answer. While we 
appreciate this important work to level the global playing 
field and discourage companies from moving jobs out of the 
United States in the first place, we also recognize the 
critical needs of these workers who are faced with losing their 
jobs unless CNH decides to reverse course.

                                WARN ACT

    So I'd like to follow up on the WARN Act. This is an 
important law that, if followed, can help communities plan to 
provide services to workers affected by mass layoffs.
    Unfortunately, as in the case with CNH, not every company 
complies with WARN, and Department of Labor's authority to 
enforce the law needs to be strengthened. Will you work with me 
to explore how Congress can strengthen the WARN Act this 
Congress?
    Ms. Su. Yes, absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. We've discussed my desire to 
secure increased protections from workplace violence, 
especially for our Nation's nurses.

                HEALTHCARE WORKERS & WORKFORCE VIOLENCE

    Unfortunately, nurses continue to suffer from rising levels 
of workplace violence. A 2023 report from National Nurses 
United found that nearly one in five nurses have changed or 
left their jobs due to workplace violence.
    With Wisconsin facing a projected shortage of 20,000 nurses 
by the year 2040, we must do all that we can to protect, 
retain, and strengthen the nursing workforce.
    I know the Department has taken some steps towards issuing 
a proposed rule on workplace violence in healthcare and social 
assistance. Can you update us on the actions the Department is 
taking now to provide all nurses the protections from workplace 
violence that they deserve? And describe your efforts to 
accelerate the issuance of this proposed workplace violence 
standard.
    Ms. Su. Yes. Thank you so much, Chairwoman Baldwin.
    So, as you note, workplace violence is too often the 
reality for many in our healthcare settings. I recently made a 
trip where I met in a community in which there was a home 
healthcare nurse who had been killed on the job.
    And I also meet with nurses, including those in nursing 
programs, who are passionate and want to do the job, but 
recognize that violence is a reality that they should face, and 
that they have to face, and that should not-- simply not be the 
case.
    This also points to something that we believe really deeply 
at the Department of Labor, which is that sometimes labor 
shortages, or people not being--not staying in jobs that 
they're trained for and want to do, is a result of job quality 
issues. And we need to make sure that every job is a good job.
    So, our efforts include creating a workplace standard that 
would help to reduce and hopefully eliminate the incidence of 
workplace violence when it comes to healthcare workers. We have 
gone through the initial--the small business review process, 
which is always something that our OSHA (Occupational Safety 
and Health Administration) rules require, and we are doing 
everything we can to issue a notice rule as soon as we can.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Capito.
    Senator Capito. Thank you.
    Acting Secretary Su, I wanted to ask about two of the rules 
that I brought up in my opening statement.

                           THE OVERTIME RULE

    Senator Capito. The Overtime Rule, I'd like to start with 
that. You finalized that regulation just 2 weeks ago, the new 
level of $59,000. And let me ask you a technical question here 
really quickly, because I was talking to somebody who called me 
about this, who's going to be deeply affected. That $59,000 
goes up, right? To another figure shortly? Is that correct?
    Ms. Su. So thank you very much. And actually, if I could 
just say one thing, Ranking Member, I know you mentioned some 
of the workforce investments in West Virginia. We also have a 
Strengthening Community Colleges grant for West Virginia 
University, Parkersburg, which is about nursing. So it kind of 
connects----
    Senator Capito. Right.
    Ms. Su [continuing]. The two points.
    So thank you for the question about overtime. Basically, 
what will happen is in July, there will be, using the current 
methodology, a bump up in the overtime to $14,808----
    Senator Capito. Right. 1,405 to 59. 65 percent increase.
    Ms. Su. The new methodology will not kick in until January 
1 of next year.
    Senator Capito. And that's projected to be $75,000? Is that 
correct?
    Ms. Su. No. That's the 55--the $58,565. That's the $58,000. 
So, this is an example of how our--you know, when we get 
comments, we really pay attention to them. And so in several of 
our rules, we're giving employers some ramp-up time in order to 
comply.

                   OVERTIME RULE COMPLIANCE TIMELINE

    So the July 1st ramp is using the current methodology, not 
the new methodology. It's a smaller bump. And the bump to the 
$58,000, based on the 35th percentile methodology, is going to 
be, is going to effect on January 1 of 2025.
    Senator Capito. So we've gotten a lot of comments for this 
because of, as I mentioned, threatening to reduce worker 
flexibility with little or no effect of what actually employees 
are going to take home. It threatens both--we're hearing from 
nonprofits and colleges and universities who are concerned that 
they may have to raise tuition, curb flexibilities, career 
development opportunities.
    I mean, how do you justify a 65 percent increase in this 
when it was just increased, I guess, what, 4 years ago under 
the Trump administration? Is that correct?
    Ms. Su. So Ranking Member Capito, one of the fundamental 
jobs of the Department of Labor is to make sure that we are 
protecting and looking out for the well-being of workers. 
Because the overtime threshold has been eroded over time, there 
were too many workers who basically were working over 40 hours 
a week and not being compensated for it. And some of this was 
happening through things like, you know, giving people titles 
of managers or supervisors when they were actually doing basic 
frontline work. Our effort in raising the overtime threshold 
was to make sure that the overtime law in the Fair Labor 
Standards Act remains meaningful.
    Senator Capito. So I would have to say, did you get a lot 
of pushback on this when you had your comments, when you put 
your first rule out? You had to have, for a lot of smaller 
businesses. I don't know how they're going to keep track of all 
this.
    Ms. Su. We did--so we engaged. We had several sessions. We 
did 27 virtual listening sessions around the country that had 
more than 2,000 participants in 2022. And then we conducted 
nine separate listening sessions with small business 
stakeholders. It's important for us to engage and to listen. I 
think we received something like 33,000 comments on that rule.
    Senator Capito. Right. I would imagine.
    Ms. Su. And then we respond to those comments. And again, 
one of the reasons for the two-tiered implementation was 
because we heard what the impact would be and wanted to make 
sure that especially small businesses had time to implement.
    The other thing I want to mention, Ranking Member, is that 
we also provide as much assistance as possible when 
implementing new rules like this. So we have charts, we have 
small business compliance assistance tools, and we stand ready 
to assist employers that need it in your State.
    Senator Capito. Okay. So let me just make sure I get the 
process here, because I was a little confused. It does go to 
the $58,000 on July 1 under the old methodology.
    Ms. Su. No.
    Senator Capito. No.
    Ms. Su. It will go----
    Senator Capito. It stays at the same level. It doesn't do 
that until January 1. Correct?
    Ms. Su. It will bump up to 14 thou--40--give me one second. 
It'll bump up----
    Senator Capito. It's coming to you----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. Slightly----
    Senator Capito [continuing]. Right behind you. It's coming.
    [Laughter.]
    Ms. Su. It'll bump up slightly on July 1, using the 
existing methodology, just applied to the current wage rates.
    Senator Capito. Okay.
    Ms. Su. It's basically a math equation.
    Senator Capito. Right. And then it goes----
    Ms. Su. Updated.
    Senator Capito [continuing]. To the 58 in--so full 
compliance is not until January.
    Ms. Su. Exactly.
    Senator Capito. Okay. Okay. I did want to ask about the 
independent contractor rule, but I'll just submit that for----
    Ms. Su. Thank you.
    Senator Capito [continuing]. Until you respond in writing. 
Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Capito.
    Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Shaheen. Good morning. Thank you for being here, 
Acting Secretary Su.

                           H-2B VISA PROGRAM

    I know it won't surprise you to hear that one of the issues 
I hear frequently about from our small businesses in New 
Hampshire is their difficulty in finding seasonal workers and 
using the H-2B visa program. New Hampshire has consistently, 
for as long as I can remember since covid, had an unemployment 
rate that's below 3 percent right now. The March adjusted rate 
was 2.6 percent. A year ago, it was below 2 percent.
    We can't find the workers we need, and in a State where we 
rely on tourism, it's our second-largest industry--we need 
those seasonal workers. We need those H-2B visa workers.
    And one of the things that we're hearing is that, as you 
know, before employers can apply to the Department of Homeland 
Security for the visa, they have to be approved by the 
Department of Labor to certify that there are no U.S. workers 
who can fill those jobs. They've had trouble getting that 
certification because of processing delays at the Department of 
Labor.
    What are you doing to address that? And what do we need to 
do to adjust this budget to make sure you have the funding you 
need to help make sure we can approve the people who need these 
workers to run their businesses?
    Ms. Su. Yes. Thank you very much, Senator. So I understand 
the importance of the H-2B program in your State and in many 
others, and in multiple industries across the country.
    This is a program that has grown in demand. In fact, in the 
first 4 days of January of this year, we had an application for 
more visa--4 times the number of visas than the maximum number. 
So I recognize just how dire the need is.
    I have also focused since I came as deputy secretary in 
2021 on everything we can do to improve our operational--the 
functioning of how we process. And I have heard that there have 
been improvements in processing. I'm very happy to talk to you 
further about those who continue to struggle in your home 
State, Senator.
    But one thing I will say is that the way that the 
Department of Labor is funded to process these claims, has no 
relationship to the number of claims that we get. So as the 
number has gone up, we have remained flat-funded. Our----
    Senator Shaheen. That's why I'm asking--
    Ms. Su. Yes.
    Senator Shaheen [continuing]. What you need in this budget 
in order to move those approvals, because I think it's a two-
part process. One is getting workers certified, but the other 
is we don't have enough H-2B visas in the program.
    Ms. Su. Right.
    Senator Shaheen. We're looking at a nationwide unemployment 
rate, as you pointed out yourself, which is a good problem to 
have. But we're not producing enough workers to fill the jobs 
that we're creating.
    Ms. Su. Yes.
    Senator Shaheen. And we've got to figure out how to do 
that.
    Ms. Su. Yes.
    Senator Shaheen. And DOL's (Department of Labor) role in 
ensuring that there are enough H-2B visas available to 
employers is really critical.
    Ms. Su. Yes. Yes. And my team has been very hard at work to 
try to address that. Our budget request does include $1.8 
million to add staffing for processing. Keep in mind that is 
because our overall budget request comes in under the Fiscal 
Responsibility Act.
    Senator Shaheen. Right.
    Ms. Su. I mean, I'm very happy to explore with you other 
options. You know, one that has been floated in the past is 
having the Department of Labor get some of the fees that are 
submitted in order to again level up when the numbers increase. 
But I would be very happy to work with you on other creative 
ideas to make sure that we can process.

                    SALARY IMPARITIES IN RURAL AREAS

    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I appreciate that.
    In New Hampshire, we have a Federal prison called FCI 
Berlin that has really struggled with recruiting and retaining 
qualified corrections officers and other employees that they 
need.
    And part of the problem is that there is a lack of parity 
in salaries that are offered by local agencies and firms who 
compete with companies in the region. And FCI Berlin falls 
within the rest of U.S. Pay Locality, and the Locality Pay 
program has simply failed to keep pace with local salaries in 
the area.
    Now we've been told that establishing a new Pay Area for 
the Berlin micropolitan statistical area would help address 
this issue. However, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has said 
that the current wage survey model is not capable of producing 
reliable salary estimates for micropolitan statistical areas or 
rural counties.
    So how can we encourage the Bureau of Labor Statistics to 
explore ways to address this? Because we have so many rural 
areas, not only in New Hampshire, but across the country, where 
this is a huge problem, where people are competing with an area 
like--well, we get thrown in with Boston, and there's a big 
difference between what's happening in New Hampshire with pay 
and what's happening in the Boston area.
    So what can you tell us that the Bureau of Labor Statistics 
could do to help us deal with this problem?
    Ms. Su. Thank you, Senator. This is definitely an issue 
that we are seeing. As you noted, and as the Chairwoman noted, 
this is a moment in which there's a--like a tight labor market. 
And it is resulting in workers with more choice, and employers 
needing to recruit and retain and--including competing on 
wages.
    This has had some positive impact in terms of workers and 
their wages, especially. One thing we've seen since President 
Biden came into office is real wages rise, especially for low- 
and middle-income Americans, and that means more money in the 
pockets of working families.
    But to your point, I'm happy to work with you----
    Senator Shaheen. Okay----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. To figure out what we----
    Senator Shaheen [continuing]. And I appreciate--we want 
workers to do better----
    Ms. Su. Yes.
    Senator Shaheen [continuing]. But the Federal Government 
has to keep up with that pay scale as well. And right now, 
we're not doing that. So thank you very much.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Collins.
    Senator Collins. Thank you, Madam Chair.

          PROPOSED CHANGES TO NATIONAL APPRENTICESHIP SYSTEMS

    Acting Secretary Su, in December, the Department of Labor 
proposed significant and controversial changes to the National 
Apprenticeship System. Among other issues, the proposed rules 
would eliminate apprenticeship programs that face program 
completion on the mastery of skills, rather than an explicit 
time requirement.
    Competency-based apprenticeship programs are a very 
important part of the system in Maine, particularly in the 
areas of healthcare information technology and education. In 
Maine, we've found that competency-based programs often have a 
higher success rate than time-based or hybrid programs. Over 
the past 4 years, the percentage of apprenticeship that failed 
to complete either hybrid or time-based apprenticeship programs 
was almost double those of competency programs.
    So I don't understand why the administration made the 
decision to remove competency-based approaches to 
apprenticeships. Could you explain what the rationale was?
    Ms. Su. Thank you, full committee Ranking Member Collins, 
it's good to see you.
    So as--I think we--there's wide agreement here that 
Registered Apprenticeships are a proven and effective model of 
helping employers get the skilled and competent employees that 
they need, and to create opportunity for people who might not 
otherwise have seen themselves in jobs or be able to stop what 
they're doing and get the training that they need for another 
job. We know that the earn-and-learn model works for that.
    Since this administration has been in office, we have 
expanded those apprenticeship programs in numerous industries, 
including all of the ones that you mentioned. In healthcare, in 
IT, and in education. We now have teacher apprenticeships in 
over 30 States, and we need to continue to expand that. That's 
part of our budget request.
    I think--if you're referring to our proposed rule about 
this, our goal is not to limit the options for expanding 
Registered Apprenticeships. It is to make sure that those 
programs continue to have the standards that have made them so 
successful overall, and to make sure that when somebody 
finishes with an apprenticeship program, the employer knows 
that what they're going to get is somebody who has all the 
capabilities, including the experience and experiential 
learning that is needed to actually succeed in the job, to 
perform it, but also to keep themselves safe and healthy while 
doing it.
    Senator Collins. But the way that you do that is to measure 
their competency, not require an arbitrary amount of time. I 
know I have just a little time, so let me switch to a different 
issue.

                           H-2B VISA PROGRAM

    First, very quickly, I agree with the comments that Senator 
Sheehan made on H-2B visas. Those are absolutely critical in my 
State, where 10 times the State's population visits Maine. And 
I hope that you will be recommending to the Department of 
Homeland Security that it make available the full additional 
64,716 H-2B visas for this fiscal year.

                    NEW EMERGENCY RESPONSE STANDARD

    I want to switch to another issue that I'm hearing a lot 
about in the State of Maine from our firefighters and our first 
responders. And that has caused me to focus on aspects of the 
new Emergency Response standard proposed by OSHA (Occupational 
Safety and Health Administration) in February. When I talked to 
my small rural volunteer fire departments, they have huge 
concerns about the compliance costs, the potential retraining 
requirements that this proposed standard would entail.
    And indeed, OSHA itself has estimated nationwide compliance 
costs could exceed $100 million per year for volunteer fire 
departments alone.
    When I talked to the larger cities in Maine, there are 
fewer problems with complying with the standards. As your 
department finalizes this standard, will you commit to working 
with small, rural volunteer fire departments to ensure that we 
don't essentially force them to close down? Which would hurt 
public safety rather than help it.
    H-2B Visa Caps
    Ms. Su. Yes. Thank you. So just going back quickly to the 
H-2B caps, in this administration, we have used the discretion 
given to the Department of Homeland Security in partnership 
with us to make sure that we are meeting the needs that you've 
mentioned within the discretion that we do have. Obviously, 
Congress has the ultimate authority on the cap.
    Yes, I will definitely commit to you that we will work with 
all stakeholders, but especially what you're saying, the 
voluntary and rural first responder forces that are so vital, 
both to make sure that we hear them, and that we produce a 
standard that keeps them safe as well.
    Senator Collins. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Vice Chair Collins.
    Chair Murray.
    Senator Murray. Well, thank you very much, Chair Baldwin.
    Thank you, Acting Secretary Su, for coming here and joining 
us today.
    DOL has a really crucial charge, and that is protecting 
workers who are truly the backbone of our economy. It should 
not be controversial to say that we want all of our workers to 
have good wages and benefits and fair treatment from their 
employer, and safe workplaces.
    And the Department does crucial work on those issues, 
cracking down on wage theft, ensuring workplace safety, and 
even in some cases, fighting discrimination. So I'm really 
pleased you're here today to talk about what resources you need 
to support your work and support our workers.

                            CHILD LABOR LAWS

    Let me start with a topic that I've been particularly 
concerned about, the rise in child labor. The number of 
children and youth found employed in violation of Federal law 
has risen 88 percent since 2019. In my home State of 
Washington, a record number of businesses have been fined for 
violating child labor laws in recent years.
    Senator Casey and I actually introduced the Child Labor Act 
to help combat child labor and strengthen the law. And I know 
that DOL is already doing a lot to enforce our existing child 
labor protections.
    Can you talk with us about what the funding levels in your 
budget request would mean in real terms for child labor 
outreach and enforcement efforts?
    Ms. Su. Thank you so much, full committee Chair Murray, 
it's very good to see you. And thank you for raising this very 
important issue.
    As I think everybody knows, we have seen a rise in child 
labor. Part of the reason is because the Department of Labor is 
doing our job. We are exposing these practices. We are putting 
a stop to them. We are issuing penalties and using the full 
authority that we have. Not just penalties, but using ``hot 
goods'' and other ways to ensure that goods that are touched by 
child labor are not--that companies are not able to profit from 
it.
    So our budget request includes an overall increase of $35 
million for the Wage and Hour Division, with $7.5 million of 
that for child labor.
    We also have to keep in mind that our solicitor's office, 
the attorneys who advise on cases, who brings litigation, to 
drive home the, you know, the seriousness of enforcement, are 
also funded.
    And so both of those are part of the funding request.
    And we simply cannot stop the scourge of what we see, which 
has already been mentioned, like 13-year-olds working on the 
kill floor of the meat packing plant on the night shift with 
dangerous chemicals, or a 16-year-old who recently died in a 
sawmill. It's unconscionable that this is happening. And the 
Department of Labor often stands as the most important bulwark 
against those kinds of practices.
    And so our budget request is meant to stay within the 
bounds of the Fiscal Responsibility Act, but also increase our 
capacity to address this.
    Senator Murray. Right. So you're asking for funds for both 
the Wage and Hour Division and the Office of the Solicitor 
working together to combat this. Thank you. I think that's so 
important.

                         WAGE THEFT PREVENTION

    Another issue that I've been very focused on is combating 
wage theft. Workers deserve to be paid the full wages they 
earned. But unfortunately, some companies in the country are 
denying workers tens of billions of dollars in hard-earned pay 
each year.
    I actually introduced the Wage Theft Prevention and Wage 
Recovery Act to put money back into workers' pockets by 
protecting their right to fair and timely pay, and 
strengthening accountability for wage theft violations.
    I'm going to keep working on that, but I wanted to ask you 
today, what is the Department of Labor doing right now to fight 
wage theft?
    Ms. Su. So this is one of the most important things that we 
do, is to make sure that every worker gets a just day's pay for 
a hard day's work. We see violations of you know, basic failure 
to pay the minimum wage.
    The majority of violations we see when it comes to wage 
theft is in overtime. So workers not being paid when they're--
when they work over 40 hours, and we have--our investigators 
are in the field every single day uncovering these kinds of 
violations.
    You know, it should be, I think, obvious to many that for 
employers who choose to violate the basic labor laws, they will 
go to great lengths to prevent those practices from being 
found. And so it's very important for the Department to be able 
to gain the trust of workers to learn about what is going on, 
to be able to do inspections at the workplace, too. For 
example, be able to see whether records are being kept and you 
know, what exactly is going on in the workplace.
    For those employers who've decided that it's cheaper to 
break the law, and the chances of getting caught are slim, and 
the consequences even if they do get caught are minimal, we 
need to tell them that that is not the proper way to--you know, 
we're not going to allow those kinds of violations.
    And it's also very important--we hear this often, is from 
other employers in that industry who are complying with the 
law, need to know that the Department of Labor will help them 
ensure a level playing field.
    Senator Murray. So there's fair competition?
    Ms. Su [Nods yes.]
    Senator Murray. Fair--all right. Thank you very much. Thank 
you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Chair Murray.
    Next, Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Chairwoman Baldwin and 
Ranking Member Capito. And thank you for being here also as 
well, Acting Secretary Su.

                      IMPORTANCE OF SKILLED LABOR

    Mississippi, like the rest of the country, and that we've 
all had these discussions, is facing a pretty tough labor 
crisis, and the widening gap between jobs available to 
Mississippians and the career routes being chosen.
    Despite there being many positions offering significantly 
above-average wages, there's a huge shortage in our State of 
plumbers, electricians, diesel mechanics, utility linemen, HVAC 
technicians, precision manufacturing's, and many, many skilled 
jobs. Without more people pursuing these jobs, our workforce 
participation rate will continue to decline, average income 
increases will stall, and our economic health will suffer as we 
struggle to reach our economic potential.
    But from my conversations with training providers, State 
officials, community organizers, and employers, this shortage 
is not the result of a lack of opportunity or training 
resources. Rather, it is largely an issue of awareness and 
perception with these jobs.
    Many people exploring their career options are not aware of 
the high wages, good benefits, and the long-term stability 
these occupations provide. It's almost a little bit of a 
stigma. And if they are aware, there is a misguided view these 
occupations are less desirable. And that's really, really sad.
    But what is your stance on the importance of funding or 
supporting efforts to increase awareness of these jobs and 
their benefits, and to decrease any negative perceptions that 
may surround them?
    Ms. Su. Yes. Thank you so much, Senator. I also understand 
tomorrow is your birthday, so happy early birthday.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you very much.
    [Laughter.]
    Ms. Su. I could not agree more with what you are saying, 
and I see that also when I travel the country, that we do have 
to overcome a certain perception, both of the quality of the 
jobs--and again, in this moment when there are such historic 
investments in infrastructure, in manufacturing, in clean 
energy, in good jobs in every community, I think the reality is 
that these are good quality jobs.
    The other part of this is that--you know, one of the things 
I hear is that we need to do a better job of also aligning our 
educational system with this message. Too many young people 
hear that, you know, your only path, the only right path, is to 
go to a 4-year college. And I meet with people across the 
country who say, ``That's just not what I, that's not what I 
wanted to do. I wanted to work with my hands. I wanted to, you 
know, gain a trade.''
    And so making sure that our overall--those of us who are, 
you know, trusted messengers to young people, are also saying, 
there is another path, and this is a viable path, is very, very 
important.
    I hear from people who are--you know, let's say they're 
finishing an apprenticeship program, or they're in a career 
trade, who say, ``If I had known that this was available to me 
years ago, I could have started on this secure path with a good 
job, with benefits, with retirement a long time ago.''
    So we do have work to do there. I am very anxious to work 
with you on that. It's something that we're working on across 
the administration, you know, something that, for example, 
Secretary Cardona and I talk about as well. And everywhere I 
go, I try to raise awareness about that issue.
    I do think the added investments in actual training 
programs that reach communities that have been left out in the 
past would also help to create, you know, a climate in which 
people understand that these are real options for them.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Yes, and we have great training 
centers. I mean, that's--we're not lacking that at all. It's 
just getting the students in there with the pride of being in 
there. And I know that's kind of hard to buy.

        STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRAINING GRANT PROGRAMS

    But in addition to getting the word out about the potential 
careers, it's also important to properly train. And I'm pleased 
that the Department is seeking an increase in the Strengthening 
Community College Training Grant programs. And for fiscal year 
2025, we have some great community college system and does an 
outstanding job of targeting specific needs for our State.
    And many of the community colleges in Mississippi continue 
to work with companies to fill the training gaps in 
manufacturing and the technical jobs so we can continue to 
produce a ready, well-trained workforce.
    But will you commit to making sure these grants continue to 
go to deserving community colleges in rural States so they can 
continue to fill the workforce gaps across all sectors?
    Ms. Su. Yes, absolutely. And our budget request does 
include a modest increase in our Strengthen Community College 
grants. And 100 percent, they are key to the overall workforce 
system. And one way that young people--and mid-career people, 
hear about opportunities that they might not have had, and have 
the ability to gain the skills in the classroom that match the 
skills they're going to need in the workplace, 100 percent.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Okay. I'm over my time. Thank you, 
Madam Chairman.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Schatz.
    Senator Schatz. Thank you, Chair.
    And thank you, Secretary, for being here. And thanks for 
your great work and the way you engage with Congress. Even when 
members disagree with you, it's always substantive and 
respectful, and I just wanted to observe that it's not that 
easy to do so. So good job on that.
    I just want to quickly agree with Senator Murray about the 
Office of the Solicitor----
    Ms. Su. Yes.

                         CHILD LABOR PENALTIES

    Senator Schatz [continuing]. Especially as it relates to 
child labor. We can disagree about a lot, but the law already 
exists, and it is not sufficiently enforced. You've got around 
100 meritorious cases that are--that we are unable to prosecute 
per month. And there's a solution to that. We don't need a new 
statute.
    But I actually want to talk to you about an area where we 
do need a new statute. Senator Young and I also have a child 
labor bill that does something a fair amount more narrow than 
Senator Murray and Senator Casey, and that is simply crank up 
those penalties.
    As you know, it is $68,801 maximum penalty for a child 
labor violation that results in the death of a child. Sixty-
eight grand is what we have in Federal statute.
    And so not only have companies made the judgment that 
between the Office of the Solicitor and overall resources for 
the Department that they may not get caught, but even if they 
get caught, it's not that expensive. And it can be booked as a 
cost of doing business. If a child dies on a factory floor, 
it's $68 grand. Capped.
    So I'm sorry to take such a long time to wind up, but I'd 
like you to talk about the practical impact of those penalties, 
and what would happen if those penalties were turned up to the 
point where it was, you know, a real financial hit.
    Ms. Su. Yes. Thank you so much, Senator. I mean, I can't 
say it better than you've already said it. When employers feel 
like breaking the law can just be a cost of doing business, 
because the consequences, even when they're caught, are so 
minimal, the incentives to comply are too poor. And we do 
everything we can at the Department of Labor, through our 
investigative resources, to expose illegal practices, to hold 
all of the companies who are responsible accountable.
    But we do appreciate the efforts of Congress in light of 
all of the attention to child labor, and the cases that we 
continue to see, to do everything in your power to help make it 
more costly for those who break the law.
    Senator Schatz. Thank you very much. And I guess I just 
want to reiterate this point.
    You know, it's Labor, right? So we're going to have a 
difference of opinion on a lot of things about independent 
contractors, about union organizing and regulatory questions. 
But I think we can all agree that there's no justification for 
a violation of Federal law being so inexpensive as to not be a 
disincentive.
    And so this is something that I just think we ought to fix. 
We can either pass it by consent, or in some other must-pass 
piece of legislation, but this is not the kind of thing that 
could get--that ought to get caught up in are pretty 
fundamental ideological disagreements.

                             WOMEN'S BUREAU

    Speaking of fundamental ideological disagreements, here I 
move on to the Women's Bureau. I am continually impressed--and 
I have to say, I talk to my staff, and I'm always suspicious 
about bureaus, because our tendency on our side of the aisle is 
to identify a problem, and then establish a bureau for the 
thing we want to see fixed? And so they had to persuade me that 
this Women's Bureau was not just seven people in a bunch of 
cubicles.
    But boy, they've done really important work. And I'd like 
you to just spend a little bit of time talking about what the 
Women's Bureau has done for the workforce and for women in the 
workforce.
    Ms. Su. Thank you very much for that, Senator. So I think 
it's important to say that in many ways, women have helped to 
power the economic recovery that we have seen in this country. 
Last month, the labor force participation rate for prime age 
working women reached an all-time high, a high since we started 
collecting this data, which was back in 1948 when Harry Truman 
was elected President. So the role of women in this economy 
simply cannot be overstated.
    At the same time, we have much more work to do to tap into 
the full potential of women in the economy. And one of the 
studies that the Women's Bureau put out that I think is so 
important to note here, is that if our country invested in 
CARE, in the CARE infrastructure and policies that support 
CARE, like national paid leave, then about 5 million more women 
could enter the workplace, and that would result in $775 
billion worth of economic activity a year.
    So Women's Bureau's research and work in this space helps 
to tell us not just, you know, what policy--the impact of 
policies, but also what's happening when we don't invest in 
policies.
    The other piece that Women's Bureau puts out are grants 
called WANTO. They're Women Apprentices in Nontraditional 
Occupation. And it is meant to make sure that women see 
themselves in some of these good jobs that are being created 
that they have been underrepresented in for a very long time.
    I also feel like I need to say, because you asked about the 
Women's Bureau, and it's almost Mother's Day, that I want to 
thank all the working mothers who do this work. And our Women's 
Bureau is very much about continuing to lift up their voices 
and their stories and opportunities for them.
    Senator Schatz. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Schatz.
    Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Madam Chair.

                       SEXUAL HARRASSMENT AT FDIC

    Madam Acting Secretary, welcome. Part of your job, Madam 
Acting Secretary, is to protect and support employees, is it 
not?
    Ms. Su. Yes, sir.
    Senator Kennedy. And do you believe that we should 
protect--do you believe passionately that we should protect and 
support our employees?
    Ms. Su. I am passionate about that, sir. Yes.
    Senator Kennedy. Okay. Do you believe that we should 
passionately protect and support our employees at the FDIC 
(Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation)?
    Ms. Su. I do believe that all employees should be entitled 
to fair pay and come home healthy and safe and----
    Senator Kennedy. Including the FDIC?
    Ms. Su. Yes.
    Senator Kennedy. Okay. Have you read the recent outside 
report--234 pages about the creepy old men at the FDIC?
    Ms. Su. I have not seen that, Senator.
    Senator Kennedy. Have you heard about it?
    Ms. Su. I have not.
    Senator Kennedy. Are you curious about it?
    Ms. Su. Yes, I am. Sure. Yes.
    Senator Kennedy. Well, the report that--the people who 
conducted the report, Madam Acting Secretary, and I'm surprised 
you haven't followed it, asked employees at the agency to phone 
in complaints.
    There are 6,000 employees. Five hundred--almost one out of 
ten--employees phoned in complaints. Many of them were sexual 
complaints, sexual discrimination complaints. One young woman 
said, ``My supervisor continuously sends me text messages with 
photographs of his penis.'' Is that a labor violation?
    Ms. Su. I mean, it's horrible----
    Senator Kennedy. Well, another employee, a Hispanic 
employee, said, ``My supervisor required me to recite the 
pledge of allegiance, because he said I had to prove I'm an 
American.'' Is that a labor violation?
    Ms. Su. I think, Senator, everything that you're saying is 
not acceptable in the workplace.
    Senator Kennedy. Okay.
    Ms. Su. The technical question about labor violation is I 
know--they fall under various statutes. But yes.
    Senator Kennedy. But one young woman said, ``My supervisor 
sent me a text message saying, quote, 'Get naked, bitch.''' Is 
that a violation? Labor violation?
    Ms. Su. I think it's unacceptable workplace behavior, 
certainly.
    Senator Kennedy. It's pretty bad. One young woman said, 
``My supervisor regularly commented on my breasts and my legs 
and about his sex life.'' Is that a labor violation?
    Ms. Su. I think it's unacceptable behavior.
    Senator Kennedy. Yes, it's pretty bad, isn't it? One young 
woman testified--or sent in a complaint and said, ``One of my 
supervisors asked me the following question. Quote, 'Does your 
husband eat you?''' Close quote. Is that a labor violation.
    Ms. Su. Yes, I mean, it's unacceptable behavior. It's 
disgusting. It's----
    Senator Kennedy. Well, what do you plan on doing about it? 
Don't you think that all the senior management at the FDIC 
should resign and be prosecuted?
    Ms. Su. So, Senator, I don't know if a complaint was 
formally made to the EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity 
Commission). That is the Federal agency----
    Senator Kennedy. But ma'am, you can----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. That opens the----
    Senator Kennedy. [continuing]. Initiate a complaint. I'm 
here----
    Ms. Su. Okay --

                SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. You're Labor Secretary, and I 
know from your behavior you believe in protecting employees. 
Now this is as egregious as I've ever seen, and I suspect 
you've ever seen. And I thought we had already decided that 
this is no country for creepy old men.
    I'm asking you what you're planning. Do you--are you going 
to call for Martin Gruenberg to--the--who runs a place to 
resign? He's been there since 2005, and only--and one of two 
things are going on. If he says he didn't know about it, he's 
like a rock, only dumber. Or he condoned this behavior.
    Is--for the Biden administration, does ``Me, too'' apply 
except at the FDIC? Is that what you're saying?
    Ms. Su. No, Senator, I mean, I have seen some pretty 
horrible things. I mean, we see human trafficking and people 
forced to work in, you know, unconscionable conditions. We 
see----
    Senator Kennedy. What are you going to do about the FDIC?
    Ms. Su. So----
    Senator Kennedy. And how are you going to protect those 
employees?
    Ms. Su. Well, they definitely deserve protection. This is 
where the Department of Labor's authority over the Fair Labor 
Standards Act, the OSH Act, and other things--the sexual 
harassment claims that you were talking about fall under a 
different Federal agency. And----
    Senator Kennedy. So you're just going to ignore it?
    Ms. Su. No, I mean, you know, but I think that it's 
important for agencies to operate under the authority that 
they've been given by Congress----
    Senator Kennedy. Don't you think you have a moral----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. That's one reason I think I do know--
--
    Senator Kennedy. [continuing]. Imperative to ask Mr. 
Gruenberg to resign? To quit?
    Ms. Su. I would say this, Senator. I think you said that a 
complaint had been made. I'm assuming it was made to the proper 
Federal agency. I trust that our sister agencies----
    Senator Kennedy. Not yet, but they're coming. I'm just----
    Ms. Su. Okay.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. Asking you what you're 
planning on doing, if anything. It doesn't sound to me like 
you're planning on doing anything to help these young female 
employees.
    Ms. Su. Well, now that you've brought it to my attention, 
I'm happy to make sure that the EEOC is aware that there is a 
case like this.
    Senator Kennedy. But you're not going to do anything about 
it as Labor secretary.
    Ms. Su. Well, let me say this, Senator. I know that the 
people of America need a very strong Department of Labor to 
protect working people across this country. Our authority to 
investigate, to cite, to end bad labor practices, are bound by 
the authority that's given by you to me. These investigations 
occur at another agency.
    Senator Kennedy. You're not going to do anything, are you?
    Ms. Su. Oh, I just said I'm happy to reach out to them to 
make sure they are aware of it, and if they need any support 
that I'm able to give----
    Senator Kennedy. Yes, but you're not going to do anything 
in your power to help those employees, are you?
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
    We're going to begin a second round of questions. I do 
understand some members who were here earlier are trying to 
return for their opportunity to do their first round.

              EBSA AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ENFORCEMENT

    For far too long, many Americans were denied health 
coverage for life-saving mental health services. I was proud to 
support bipartisan legislation that requires private health 
insurance companies to cover mental health and substance use 
disorder just like they cover physical health.
    The Department of Labor plays a critical oversight role in 
securing parity compliance in employment-based health plans, 
covering an estimated 131 million plan participants.
    Supplemental appropriations Congress provided to help 
implement this legislation will be exhausted by the end of the 
year. These funds have helped the Department address parity 
violations, hold companies accountable, and facilitate access 
to treatment.
    Acting Secretary Su, how would additional resources 
requested in this budget help the Department's Employee 
Benefits Security Administration improve access to substance 
use disorder treatments that Wisconsinites and communities 
across the United States need to help overcome the crisis that 
claimed more than 100,000 American lives in the year 2022?
    Ms. Su. Chairwoman Baldwin, thank you so much for your 
leadership on this issue. Today is actually National Children's 
Mental Health Awareness Day, and this month is actually Mental 
Health Awareness Month.
    And at the Department of Labor, we play a very important 
role on making sure that individuals who need mental health 
services, substance use disorder treatment, actually get the 
coverage from the insurance company that they're supposed to 
get.
    Our EBSA that does this enforcement, our Employee Benefits 
Security Administration, the budget request there is an 
increase of $14.6 million. Again, in order to stay under the 
Fiscal Responsibility Act cap that was there, and in order to 
continue to do enforcement, as you mentioned, in a field that 
is so important, but in which the funding that was given is 
about to sunset.
    I just want to share a few examples of the kinds of 
enforcement that we do here. We have--I've spoken to several 
parents whose children needed some kind of mental health 
treatment, and they were denied coverage for it.
    And so sometimes it means that a family will simply forego 
the treatment, often with devastating results.
    Sometimes families will do everything they can, including 
get a second mortgage on their home, like go into great debt in 
order to pay what is needed.
    We had a case in which a child needed inpatient mental 
healthcare. The family took out a second mortgage for it and 
ended up paying over $200,000 out of pocket. Because of the 
Department of Labor's intervention, we got that amount covered 
by insurance--which, you know, the families will tell us that 
it's basically life-saving work.
    We have benefits advisors who answer the phone when 
somebody is being denied coverage, and sometimes that 
intervention will result in an immediate change.
    This is life-saving work. And oftentimes the impact of one 
enforcement effort is--has ripple effects, because once the 
insurance company recognizes what they're supposed to do in 
that one instance in which we got involved, they will change 
the way that they approach future requests for coverage. And 
then that has--you know, each of our investigations is 
amplified in terms of its impact.
    And so I can't overstate the importance of the work of 
EBSA, especially in this moment where we are seeing, you know, 
one in five adults report a mental health issue a year. And for 
young people, you know, I don't even know if the data is fully 
available.
    So we--you know, I can't overstate the importance of 
building up EBSA in order to continue this work.
    Senator Baldwin. Okay. Thank you. Give her a moment to get 
adjusted, and then I will recognize Senator Britt.

               LACK OF SENATE CONFIRMED SECRETARY AT DOL

    Senator Britt. Thank you very much. Just got finished with 
Banking and headed down, so thank you, I appreciate it.
    Acting Secretary Su, thank you for being here today. I 
wanted to begin by expressing my concern about the length of 
time the Biden administration has allowed the Department of 
Labor to operate without a Senate confirmed secretary at the 
helm.
    As you are aware, your nomination to be the Secretary of 
Labor is opposed in a bipartisan majority of the Senate, and 
you will not be confirmed to this position during this 
Congress.
    Despite that reality and repeated requests to the President 
to put forth a nominee who can receive adequate support to be 
confirmed, the Biden administration has instead left you in 
place as acting secretary on an indefinite basis with no 
current plans to put forth another nominee for secretary of 
labor.

                    PRESIDENTIAL LINE OF SUCCESSION

    You've also been listed on the White House website as a 
member of the Cabinet, quote, ``in order of succession to the 
presidency,'' signaling that despite having never been elected 
to any office nor confirmed by the Senate to any Cabinet-level 
position, the White House believes that you are eligible to 
assume the presidency pursuant to the Presidential Succession 
Act of 1974.
    In October, I led a letter to President Biden, along with 
29 of my colleagues, urging that the White House clarify its 
position on this very issue. I've yet to receive a response to 
that letter.
    And so I want to raise that question with you today. Do you 
believe that if the need were to arise, that you are currently 
eligible to assume the presidency under the Presidential 
Succession Act of 1974?
    Ms. Su. Senator, it is the honor of a lifetime to have been 
nominated by the President to serve in his Cabinet.
    Senator Britt. Absolutely. And do you believe that you are 
in the line of presidential succession?
    Ms. Su. So prior to being nominated, I was confirmed as the 
deputy secretary of Labor in 2021. And then when my predecessor 
left, I became the acting secretary through the normal----
    Senator Britt. Yes, ma'am, I'm aware. My question is, do 
you believe that you should be in the presidential line of 
succession? It's just a yes or a no.
    Ms. Su. I mean, Senator, I put it this way. I serve at the 
pleasure of the President. I appreciate his confidence in me. 
We've spent some time here today talking about the work of the 
Department and the important ways that we are----
    Senator Britt. And Ms. Su, this isn't--my question is 
specifically about the presidential line of succession. Do you 
believe, yes or no, that you should be in that, having not been 
confirmed into this position by the United States Senate? So 
just yes, you believe you should be able to succeed in the 
presidential line of succession if that were ever to happen? Or 
no, you believe you are not actually in that line of 
succession?
    Ms. Su. Let me--can I say two things about that, Senator? 
The first is that----
    Senator Britt. Well, I--you know what----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. The question of----
    Senator Britt. Yes, I actually have a lot of questions I 
want to get to on this, but I thought that that would be a 
really easy yes or no. And to me, it's no, you haven't been 
confirmed, and therefore should not be in the line of 
succession. I mean, this is a big deal, and I think that's a 
simple answer. And unfortunately, I didn't get that from you.

                           NEW OVERTIME RULE

    Like many other of my colleagues, I've been very concerned 
about a number of rules that have been issued by the Department 
of Labor during your tenure, starting with the new Overtime 
Rule. And I know we've discussed that a bit today.
    The new rule increases the minimum salary threshold for the 
executive, administrative, or professional overtime exemption 
by 65 percent from the 2019 rule, and increases the minimum 
salary threshold for a highly compensated employee overtime 
exemption by 41 percent from the 2019 rule.
    I've heard from numerous stakeholders in Alabama about the 
huge detrimental impact that this rule will have on them. As an 
example, many of Alabama's small colleges and universities, 
which include HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities)--we have more HBCUs in Alabama than any other 
place in the Nation.
    And as I hear from them about dealing with this, it is 
going to have significant ramifications. My office has spoken 
to schools that don't have large budgets or endowments, but are 
facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional costs for 
the upcoming academic year having to implement this rule and 
reevaluate salaries across the board due to this rule's 
provisions.
    At the same time, those schools are unable to lock down 
their incoming freshman classes, or fully make informed 
decisions and budgetary choices about the upcoming academic 
year.
    And I--if you look at that, you know, this rule is 
obviously having a huge impact--in addition to all of those 
things, and small businesses in Alabama. And to me, small 
businesses are the heartbeat of this country. They're what make 
Main Streets go. They're what allow people to achieve the 
American dream.
    And given these realities, do you, at the very least, 
envision the Department granting additional flexibility with 
respect to the timing of this rules implementation across the 
country?
    Ms. Su. So Senator, I agree with what you said about the 
importance of small businesses in our economy. There's no 
question about that. And we engage with small businesses in all 
of our rulemaking, but also in our Overtime Rule.
    In terms of the timing, actually----
    Senator Britt. And they're supportive of that?
    Ms. Su. We got comments on all sides. We got--I think I 
said this, over 33,000 comments on Overtime? I believe that's 
the right number for that particular rule.
    But we do hear from small businesses who rely on the 
Department of Labor to create a level playing field on which 
they can compete, especially in a moment where they need to 
recruit and retain, you know--keep workers by making sure that 
their working conditions are competitive.
    But let me just address the timing, because that is one of 
the things, and the ranking member and I already talked about 
this some is, we heard comments about the need for some time to 
come into compliance. So our Overtime Rule goes into effect in 
two phases. The first is on July 1. It will go up--it's a bump 
based on the current methodology, not the new methodology, but 
the current rule multiplied by current wage levels. The other 
bump, the bump of the 35th percentile in the new rule, is going 
to go into effect on January 1 of 2025.
    Senator Britt. I hope you'll take these things into 
consideration. And I am obviously out of time, but I heard my 
colleague from New Hampshire mention there is a big cost of 
living difference, as she mentioned, from in New Hampshire and 
Boston. When you look at the low cost of living in Alabama, 
there is a detrimental effect that occurs, and it--I hope that 
you will take all of those things into account. So thank you 
very much for your time today.
    Ms. Su. If I could just also say, the way our formula works 
does take that into account. And I'm happy to follow up if you 
want to hear more about that.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Britt.
    Senator Capito.

               ENVIRONMENTAL, SOCIAL, AND GOVERNANCE RULE

    Senator Capito. Thank you. Acting Secretary, I want to ask 
about ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance), because I 
mentioned that in my opening statement. So in 2022, the 
Employee Benefits Security Administration issued a final rule 
under ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act) that 
allows plan fiduciaries to consider climate change, 
environmental, social, and government factors when making 
investment decisions.
    What brought that decision forward? And was that a 
requirement from the President to have an all--throughout every 
department consideration of climate change?
    Because as we look at, say, the Social Security Trust Fund, 
which a lot of people are going to retire--relying on for 
retirement and also their retirement plans, in my view, the 
best way to keep our retirees as they move into their senior 
years in the best possible position, is to have the maximum 
financial benefit accrue to their plans, regardless of--I could 
see if things were illegal, but you know, if you're talking 
about a natural gas company or a coal company or somebody else 
who's really maximizing profits, this rule would--if that 
fiduciary takes this under consideration, would eliminate that 
as a possibility.
    Ms. Su. So, Ranking Member, I very much appreciate both the 
question and the way in which you asked it. Because I agree, 
and of course, you know, it's best for retirees for their 
investments to give them the maximum financial benefit. All of 
our work, our enforcement work, as well as our rulemaking is 
about that.
    This particular rule is consistent with that, in that it 
does not mandate, but it does allow an investor to take into 
account ESG factors, especially because--and I was just in a 
meeting about this with many investors who actually make these 
decisions.
    Sometimes when those factors--labor principles. You know, 
environmental, valuing environmental outcomes, those factors 
actually make an investment more profitable.
    And so what our rule did--the prior administration took 
away the ability to consider those factors. Said that you can't 
look at them. Our rule restores the ability for someone who's 
making those decisions to look at all of the factors that will 
help them to decide what is going to be best for the actual 
retiree.
    Senator Capito. In my opinion, this really politicizes a 
really important part of our financial fabric in this country. 
And I think that the pressures--you didn't answer the question 
as to whether the pressure to move forward with this rule came 
from the White House or from the financial institutions? Are 
you aware that there are a lot of ESG funds that have actually 
shuttered, closed down, because they're not generating the 
profits that they need.
    So who made the decision to move forward on this? Was this 
a decision you made, or the former head of Labor, or was it 
made in the White House?
    Ms. Su. Well, so, Ranking Member, if I could just say, 
again, it--just respond to that----
    Senator Capito. Well, answer that.
    Ms. Su. The politicization occurred in the prior 
administration when said, you cannot consider them. The point 
about being able to consider all factors is something that we 
heard from those people, financial advisors, those making those 
decisions, that they wanted to be able to consider all factors, 
but because of the prior administration's rule, they were 
afraid to do that, even when it would be in the best interests 
of the accounts in which it agree--in which it would result in 
the maximum investment return.
    So our rule was really about more flexibility. In terms of 
who made the decision, again, we went through the process for, 
you know, for rulemaking that we always go through. We are 
thoughtful, we are judicious, we take comments, we listen to 
them, we respond to them, and then we produce something that 
we--you know, that we believe is in the best interests of, in 
this case, not just the account holders, but also those who 
are--who asked for more flexibility in their decisionmaking.
    Senator Capito. Thank you.
    Ms. Su. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. All right. Senator Manchin.

                        THE JOINT EMPLOYER RULE

    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
    Thank you, Secretary, for being here. Recently, the 
President vetoed a bipartisan congressional resolution 
overturning the National Labor Relations Board NLRB rule, 
redefining who is a joint employer. The rule from NLRB will put 
the franchise model at risk, and I think you know how I feel 
about this.
    Small businesses are the heart of the economy and our 
communities, especially in our little State of West Virginia, 
which we love dearly, where more than 98 percent of our 
businesses are small businesses. One out of every three 
franchise owners say they wouldn't own a small business without 
the franchise business model. One--that's a tremendous--one in 
three, 33 percent.
    The last time NLRB tried this study, a study found that the 
policy led to 376,000 fewer jobs and $33 billion in lost output 
across the economy.
    While a Federal judge has currently blocked this rule from 
taking effect, I'm concerned what will happen if it does take 
effect.
    So my question would be, there continues to be bipartisan 
concern with what the NLRB is proposing. What does your 
Department plan to do to curb the job and economic output loss 
we experienced the last time if this would go into effect? And 
are you all still pushing it forward to be effective?
    Ms. Su. So Senator, it's nice to see you. I know everybody 
knows, but I will say this. The NLRB is a separate entity from 
the Department of Labor. The joint employer rule is not 
something that the Department of Labor has pursued or that we 
have put on our regulatory agenda.
    I will say, one of the things----
    Senator Manchin. Well, we tried to get rid of it, but the 
President over--he vetoed us. The President overrode us. You 
know, we tried to get rid of it, but he vetoed it. So he must 
believe, and the administration must believe, in the rule, the 
way the rule's been.
    Ms. Su. Yes. That is not a rule that the Department of 
Labor pursued or put into effect. I will say, though----
    Senator Manchin. Do you all acknowledge the job--can you 
acknowledge the job losses that came when they did implement it 
the last time?
    Ms. Su. I mean, Senator, I don't have any data about that. 
But I will acknowledge----
    Senator Manchin. Did you----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. The conversations we have had, and the 
important role that franchisees and franchisors played. I know 
we've talked about this, too.
    Senator Manchin. Sure, sure.
    Ms. Su. My own parents owned a franchisee business. And so 
I understand and have lived the benefits that such a business 
means for----
    Senator Manchin. If you would do me a favor with your able 
staff here, if they would just check and find out if that's 
accurate, the amount of jobs that we know have been lost before 
or our statistics shows, and the amount of revenue it's caused 
to our economy, and maybe that would make the President and his 
administration take a different look at this in a different 
way. We're very hopeful.
    Ms. Su. I mean, Senator, I know you know this, but since 
the President came into office, 15.4 million jobs have been 
added to the economy at the same time that the unemployment 
rate remains very low. It's been under 4 percent for 27 months 
straight. I know that's already been said as well.
    So we are in a moment of tremendous job creation, in no 
small part due to the investments that are being made through 
the President's Investing in America Agenda, which this body 
was obviously very critical in helping to make the----
    Senator Manchin. The way the bills that we all passed in a 
bipartisan way, and even the IRA (Inflation Reduction Act) 
bill, the way it's being implemented is different than the way 
we wrote it. So we're in contention. I mean, there's going to 
be a lot of legal cases that they're going to lose, because 
they're overstepping their boundary of how they're 
implementing.
    And I've said this many, many times. You're trying to 
implement a bill you never passed. I know the bills, because we 
wrote them. We all worked on them. We wrote the bills. We know 
what they are in them. And they're expanding those to a 
position that's going to exasperate the position we've taken.
    Bring manufacturing back to America. You can't bring 
manufacturing back if you relax the rules and where you get 
your critical minerals and where you put produce them. And if 
you allow China to keep doing it, all you're doing is promoting 
China's dominance in the market.

                       SCHEDULE A OCCUPATION LIST

    One final question was this. The Department of Labor 
scheduled a shortage occupation list which was designed to 
address workforce shortages by streamlining the process of 
hiring vetted international workers in high-demand industries 
like science, technology, engineering, and math--and STEM--and 
also healthcare.
    Schedule A is an important tool that exempts workers and 
understaffed industries from bureaucratic visa hurdles and 
backlogs. Despite having the authority to revise the Schedule A 
list, the Department has not updated it to include more than 
two specific occupation--professional nurses and physical 
therapists--since 2005.
    While the Department has not updated the list in over 20 
years, I was pleased to see the request for information, RFI, 
on how the Schedule A occupation list could be modernized to 
include STEM occupations, for which there is a demonstrated 
labor shortage.
    So what is the Department timeline to provide an update on 
Schedule A list? I'm glad you are taking it serious.
    Ms. Su. Yes, so that's what I was going to say. We did do 
an RFI on this to figure out exactly what we needed to do. And 
I can certainly get back to you more with the timeline.
    I thought, Senator, you were going to ask me about a rule 
that you had wanted to get done, that we did get over the 
finish line, which is I was in Uniontown, Pennsylvania recently 
to announce our silica rule, which is going to save thousands 
of lives and prevent thousands of injuries, but my----
    Senator Manchin. Let me thank you for that.
    Ms. Su [continuing]. But we didn't get to talk about it.
    Senator Manchin. I'm so sorry. I want to thank you for 
that, because it did help. Thank you.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Manchin.
    So that will end our hearing----
    Senator Kennedy. I would like my second round.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Kennedy, you are recognized.

                       SEXUAL HARASSMENT AT FDIC

    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Again, Madam Acting Secretary, thank you for being here.
    I'm a little confused by some of your answers, but I think 
we've made some progress. I think we've established, number 
one, that many supervisors and some members of the senior 
leadership at the FDIC, are pigs. They are sexual predators. 
They are bigots.
    Number two, this issue has been out there for some time. 
Since the Wall Street Journal broke the story, at least 6 
months.
    And so far, the Department of Labor--Labor has said 
nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. In fact, I think you said you 
haven't even read the reports and aren't familiar with the 
issue. Maybe I'm overstating it. If I am, correct me.
    Number three, Madam Secretary, you have a long history, 
that I know you're proud of, of passionate activism on behalf 
of employees.
    So here's my question. Are you or are you not going to use 
your legal authority and moral authority to open an 
investigation of the FDIC and help those young women over there 
and help those young people of color over there?
    Ms. Su. Senator, I am deeply concerned any time a working 
person goes to work and does not get the dignity and respect 
that they deserve. I am charged with enforcing certain laws, 
based on the powers that Congress has given to the Department 
of Labor. I appreciate that you are raising an issue involving 
working people who have experienced clearly horrific sexual 
harassment and other kinds of abuse. And what it demonstrates 
is that too often, workers may feel like they have to endure 
things that no one should have to endure, because of a power 
imbalance in the workplace.
    Senator Kennedy. When are you going to--excuse me for 
interrupting, and I'm sorry, but I've only had five minutes. 
Are you going to do anything about it? That's all I'm asking. 
If you're not, just tell me.
    Ms. Su. I mean, I answered the question about what--you 
know, there's an agency in the Federal Government who 
presumably, if the complaint has been made----
    Senator Kennedy. You're not going to do anything about it?
    Ms. Su. We'll be investigating it.
    Senator Kennedy. You're not--but you're not going to take 
any in light of--I mean, this is gut check time for you, Madam 
Acting Secretary. You either believe in protecting workers or 
you don't. I can't believe you would just--you--you can--we can 
debate how many lawyers can dance on the head of a pen, but you 
certainly have legal and moral authority to investigate labor 
violence.
    Ms. Su. I mean, I--yes, so----
    Senator Kennedy. I'm honestly surprised. I thought you 
would pounce on this like a ninja. I thought you'd say----
    Ms. Su. Like a what?
    Senator Kennedy. Like a ninja. Pounce on it like a ninja. 
I've seen--heard that expression in movies before. I thought 
you were going to say ``Kennedy, I'm on it. This is the most 
disgusting stuff I've ever heard in my life, in the history of 
ever.''
    But you're kind of waffling on me. Like, ``Well, I don't 
know what I'm going to do.''
    Let me ask you my last question, because I'm going to run 
out of time. Are you or are you not going to call for Martin 
Gruenberg, who runs the FDIC and has been there since God was a 
corporal, and the senior leadership over there, to resign?
    Ms. Su. So Senator, I do care about working people. That is 
why I am here--

                   HIGHLIGHTS OF DOL'S BUDGET REQUEST

    Senator Kennedy. You refuse to show it----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. With a budget request for $13.9 
billion for the Department of Labor to do what we do. To combat 
wage theft, to stop child labor, to make sure every worker goes 
home healthy and safe at the end of the day, to expand 
apprenticeship programs. In fact, we have a Youth 
Apprenticeship Week that's happening right now, the first time 
ever, because young people should see themselves and the 
opportunities that are being built right now. It's Teacher 
Appreciation Week, and we are making sure that we're expanding 
access for teachers to good jobs. We are hard at work to 
deliver for the workers of America within the job that the 
Department of Labor is supposed to do. Enforcing mental health 
parity. Making sure that workers who saved their whole life for 
retirement actually have the benefits that they have saved for. 
Those are all within our budget request----
    Senator Kennedy. Ma'am----
    Ms. Su [continuing]. Because those are all within the work 
of the Department.
    Senator Kennedy [continuing]. You're flip-flopping like a 
banked catfish----
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. Are you not going to answer my question? I 
mean, are you going to call for him to resign or not?
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Kennedy.
    The Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, 
Education, and Related Agencies will adjourn shortly. I want to 
thank my fellow committee members for a thoughtful 
conversation. I want to thank you, Acting Secretary Su.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    For any Senators who wish to ask additional questions, 
questions for the record will be due by May 16. The hearing 
record will also remain open until then for members who wish to 
submit additional materials for the record.
    [The following questions were not asked at the hearing, but 
were submitted to the Department for response subsequent to the 
hearing:]
            Questions Submitted to Acting Secretary Julie Su
              Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Baldwin
    Question. Acting Secretary Su, you are aware of the significant 
increase in children and youth employed in violation of Federal child 
labor law identified by the Department's Wage and Hour Division in 
recent years.
    One of the most notable cases last year involved a Wisconsin-based 
food sanitation services provider employing more than 100 children 
engaged in hazardous work in thirteen meat processing facilities in 
eight states. The New York Times has done extensive reporting on the 
growing problem of child labor exploitation in the United States and 
found a rapid increase of child labor fueled by migrant children and 
youth, largely from Central America.
    I supported the bipartisan compromise on border security and 
immigration reform that would have helped secure the border, stop the 
flow of fentanyl into our communities, and provide resources to 
communities needed to provide food and shelter to newly-arrived 
migrants. However, as long as corporations are willing to ignore 
Federal child labor law, migrants searching for better economic 
opportunities will continue to make the dangerous trek to our Southwest 
border.
    Acting Secretary Su, how would this budget help crack down on 
employers that exploit children and youth and reduce the economic 
incentive helping fuel the surge at the border?
    Answer. Providing the Department with the necessary resources to 
ensure it has adequate staff and enforcement capacity will increase the 
Department's ability to address child labor exploitation. Between 
fiscal years (FY) 2010 and 2023, the Wage and Hour Division (WHD) lost 
more than 15 percent of its full-time employees funded by its annual 
appropriation because it was nearly flat-funded during this period. The 
Office of the Solicitor (SOL) has essentially been flat-funded in its 
annual appropriation when compared to FY 2010, resulting in the loss of 
more than 100 staff (a 17 percent decline) from the peak as costs have 
increased. The number of workers protected by the laws enforced by the 
Wage and Hour Division is currently more than 165 million, however, WHD 
currently has the fewest investigators it has had on board in decades. 
For every $1 million investment, WHD can conduct 260 more cases, 
recover $2.7 million more in back wages, and help 2,300 more workers.
    The President's proposed budget acknowledges the Department's need 
for additional funding to combat the rise of exploitative and dangerous 
child labor across the nation. The FY 2025 budget requests 137 
additional FTE for WHD's enforcement activities overall plus an 
additional 50 FTE for enforcement to protect the most vulnerable 
workers and combat exploitative child labor. The increased resources 
will allow WHD to maintain progress in rebuilding enforcement staff 
responsible for carrying out mission- critical, evidence-based 
strategies protecting the most vulnerable workers. WHD has long faced 
budget constraints that require careful resource allocation and 
prioritization, and many child labor investigations are time- and 
resource-intensive. Since the start of the National Child Labor 
Strategic Initiative, WHD has been developing impactful cases involving 
the strategic use of enforcement tools and innovative strategies 
focused on addressing egregious forms of child labor across America. 
WHD's strategic approach to enforcement recognizes that combating 
illegal child labor requires leveraging its strength--its authority, 
expertise, and partnerships within and beyond the Federal government--
alongside comprehensive, creative, and data-driven strategies and a 
focus on the most dangerous workplaces. WHD has also increased 
enforcement, education, and engagement among employers providing 
valuable first work experiences.
    Question. Please provide data on the use of each enforcement tool 
available to the Department for violations of child labor requirements 
for each of the prior 5 years.
    Answer. The Department is leveraging all of its existing 
enforcement tools to combat illegal child labor. The Department of 
Labor's Wage and Hour Division (WHD) investigates every child labor 
complaint, tip, and referral, and it ensures compliance with child 
labor protections in all of its FLSA investigations, including cases in 
which the complaint cites only wage violations.
    In FY 2023, the Department of Labor saw an 88 percent increase 
since FY 2019 in the number of children it has found employed illegally 
by businesses across the United States. In FY 2023 alone the 
Department's investigations found 955 companies that had employed 
nearly 5,800 children in violation of labor laws.
    Today, the Department has more than 900 open child labor cases 
nationwide while it continues to field complaints and initiate 
investigations to protect children across the country. WHD is using 
every tool at its disposal to enforce Federal child labor laws and 
combat the egregious use of child labor including assessing civil money 
penalties (CMPs) to both penalize employers who employ children in 
violation of the law and also to deter future violations. CMPs are 
often part of compliance and enforcement strategies, in addition to 
using search warrants, temporary restraining orders, preliminary 
injunctions, subpoenas, and enhanced compliance agreements.
    The strategic use of enforcement tools, combined with publicizing 
egregious findings from investigations, collaboration with OSHA and 
state partners, efforts to combat human trafficking when it arises in 
child labor cases, and strategic use of media, has allowed the 
Department to effectively combine strategies and tools to stop 
violations and create ripple effects across industries and geographic 
areas leading to greater accountability and better industry practices. 
Ongoing investigations highlight the continued threat illegal child 
labor poses to the health and well-being of children and the need for 
sustained, strong enforcement.
    WHD Concluded Cases with Child Labor Violations:
  --FY 2019: 858
  --FY 2020: 851
  --FY 2021: 747
  --FY 2022: 835
  --FY 2023: 955
    Children Found Employed in Violation of the Law:
  --FY 2019: 3,073
  --FY 2020: 3,395
  --FY 2021: 2,819
  --FY 2022: 3,876
  --FY 2023: 5,792
    Child Labor Civil Money Penalties Assessed:
  --FY 2019: $3,183,584
  --FY 2020: $3,578,081
  --FY 2021: $3,262,796
  --FY 2022: $4,386,205
  --FY 2023: $8,039,728
    Question. Please describe your key strategies for eliminating 
illegal child labor from employer supply chains.
    Answer. The Department is using all available tools and its full 
authority to stop illegal child labor when found, to hold accountable 
those employers that violate the law, and to ensure employers remain in 
compliance with the law. Through collaborative strategies between SOL 
and WHD, the Department works to employ all available legal authorities 
to protect children and address supply chain accountability. In 
addition to assessing civil money penalties, the Department is also 
using the FLSA's ``hot goods'' provision, where appropriate, to stop 
the movement of goods made with illegal child labor, seeking 
injunctions when necessary to immediately stop exploitative practices, 
taking prompt legal action when we discover that an employer is 
retaliating against employees for asserting their rights or cooperating 
with the Department, and identifying ways to ensure compliance up and 
down supply chains.
    WHD is using its full CMP authority to deter future violations and 
to hold employers that violate the law accountable. However, because 
current penalties for violations of Federal child labor laws are not 
sufficiently high to deter major profitable companies, the President 
has asked Congress to increase penalties beyond the current maximum 
$15,629 fine applicable to all child labor violations that do not cause 
a child's serious injury or death.
    Question. The Department's Office of the Solicitor also plays an 
important role in this work.
    How would additional resources requested in the FY25 budget for the 
Office of the Solicitor increase the Department's capacity to combat 
illegal child labor?
    Answer. The Office of the Solicitor (SOL) works hand-in-hand with 
the Wage and Hour Division (WHD) to enforce Federal child labor laws, 
and SOL is using every resource to root out exploitative child labor in 
our country. Given that the enforcement of unlawful child labor laws is 
a top priority for the Department of Labor (DOL) and the Biden-Harris 
Administration, more SOL resources will improve the quantity and depth 
of legal services required for full and effective enforcement of child 
labor laws.
    As context, SOL's appropriated base budget has been essentially 
flat since fiscal year (FY) 2012, combined with continually escalating 
personnel and operational costs. This led on-board staff levels to drop 
from a high 773 in FY2012 to 651 at the end of FY2023. As of May 17, 
2024, SOL has an on- board staff level of 627.
    Recent successful child labor cases have underscored that the legal 
work that SOL provides in enforcing the Fair Labor Standards Act's 
(FLSA's) child labor provisions requires significant staff time and 
resources to prove effective. To achieve meaningful legal results, 
especially when immediate relief is required to protect endangered 
children, SOL must work extensively with WHD from the very beginning of 
investigations to build cases.
    SOL attorneys are responsible for obtaining warrants, assessing 
whether hazardous orders have been violated with regards to specific 
machinery and working conditions, assessing whether DOL can rely on the 
``hot goods'' provision of the FLSA to stop the shipment in commerce of 
goods produced in violation of child labor laws, filing motions for 
temporary restraining orders (TROs) or preliminary injunctions, and 
more. SOL also plays a lead role in crafting settlement terms that hold 
employers accountable, while also addressing supply chain issues. Some 
of these investigations may be resolved prior to litigation but 
achieving such resolutions is often complex and resource intensive. For 
the many cases that are not resolved at the investigation stage, 
litigation is needed to enforce the law, and SOL is the sole DOL agency 
responsible for litigating all such cases.
    For example, following a DOL investigation, a Federal court in Los 
Angeles entered a consent judgment in April 2024 that orders owners and 
operators to pay $4.8 million in back wages and damages to 476 workers 
and $221,919 in penalties. The case involved child labor violations and 
resulted in one of the largest wage settlements ever achieved for U.S. 
poultry workers. SOL's settlement also required the employers to 
disgorge $1 million in profits earned from the sale of goods tainted by 
oppressive child labor, as well as pay assessed penalties of $171,919 
for their child labor violations. The settlement followed SOL's 
successful request for a TRO that barred the shipment of goods into 
commerce and required the employer to disgorge all profits related to 
any such shipment. The consent judgment and TRO came after WHD 
investigators learned that the poultry enterprise illegally employed 
children--as young as 14 years old--to use sharp knives to debone 
poultry, a violation of Federal child labor regulations.
    When cases are not resolved at the pre-litigation stage or at the 
early stages of litigation, SOL is entirely responsible for litigating 
those cases through costly discovery, motion practice, settlement 
negotiations, and potentially trial.
    As noted in the President's FY2025 budget request for the 
Department, the Office of the Solicitor continues to experience rising 
demand for legal support in litigation, advice, and regulatory work, 
including with respect to child labor enforcement. Investigations rely 
on a credible threat of litigation to encourage employers to comply 
with the law, resolve investigations early, and enter into settlements 
that effectively protect children. Absent additional resources for SOL, 
the Department's ability to fully and effectively enforce child labor 
laws and other worker protection laws will be undermined. To avoid 
this, the President's Budget requests to increase SOL's funding by 
nearly $15 million, allowing SOL to, among other things, dedicate 
additional legal staff to become involved in child labor cases at the 
earliest possible stage to assist with investigation planning to 
develop the strongest possible cases for enforcement action and to 
provide legal advice.
    Question. Since enactment of the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement 
(USMCA), the Department and the Office of the United States Trade 
Representative have mobilized resources and expertise to implement and 
enforce the labor provisions under USMCA, particularly the United 
States-Mexico Facility-Specific Rapid Response Labor Mechanism (RRLM) 
under Annex 31-A. To date, twenty cases have moved forward through the 
RRLM with largely positive results. Additional cases are necessary to 
realize the potential of the RRLM to close the wage gap between workers 
in the United States and Mexico.
    What is the Department's plan and timeline for accelerating the 
progress achieved under USMCA, particularly in a time of budget 
constraints and competing domestic priorities?
    Answer. The Interagency Labor Committee for Monitoring and 
Enforcement, co-chaired by the Department of Labor (DOL) and the Office 
of the U.S. Trade Representative, remains committed to using the Rapid 
Response Labor Mechanism (RRLM) as a tool to ensure Mexico's compliance 
with its labor commitments under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement 
(USMCA). As of the end of May 2024, the United States has found denial 
of rights and requested Mexico review the alleged denials in 23 RRLM 
cases. These cases have directly benefitted nearly 30,000 workers, 
providing millions of dollars in back pay and benefits to workers, 
ensuring wrongly terminated workers were reinstated, and securing free 
and fair elections in which workers selected independent unions to 
represent them and bargain historic compensation packages.
    An important driver of progress is ensuring that workers are aware 
of their rights and that they know how to access the national systems 
of labor justice, as well as the RRLM. To this end, DOL awareness-
raising projects conducted with funding provided under the USMCA 
Implementation Act amplified the success of the RRLM process through 
videos, social media posts and educational materials. Information about 
the DOL-managed USMCA hotline resulted in a significant increase in 
labor-related tips that may lead to more RRLM actions in USMCA priority 
sectors. DOL expects that technical assistance projects initiated in 
prior years and scheduled to continue through 2027 will yield concrete 
improvements in the legal and institutional environment in support of 
the historic labor law reforms promoting freedom of association and 
collective bargaining. Five Mexico-based labor attaches, funded under 
the USMCA Implementation Act, are key points of contact with our 
government counterparts, the business community, and workers and 
unions. These relationships drive strategic use of the RRLM in key 
sectors. DOL continues to support the development of reliable 
government institutions, independent unions, and informed employers. 
All these efforts are expected to continue through 2027. The 
President's FY 2025 Budget request includes a program increase of $45 
million to replace the annual level of the USMCA resources that expired 
in December 2023, enabling ILAB to continue this important work.
    Question. How will the Department continue to prioritize global 
worker rights and union capacity building efforts in Mexico?
    Answer. DOL technical assistance projects launched with USMCA 
funding prior to 2024 will continue to build the capacity of industrial 
relations actors, which will lead to more and better collective 
bargaining agreements. This includes building on the success of 
Solidarity Center projects that have supported the expansion of 
independent unions such as La Liga Sindical Obrera into a national 
union, and the expansion of the Federation of Independent and 
Democratic Unions in the Auto Sector. In addition to the efforts 
outlined above, the Department will continue to prioritize global 
worker rights and union capacity building through initiatives such as 
the Multilateral Partnership for Organizing, Worker Empowerment, and 
Rights (M-POWER), which seeks to elevate the role of trade unions and 
organized workers as essential to advancing democracy.
    Question. On November 16, 2023, the Biden Administration issued the 
Memorandum on Advancing Worker Empowerment, Rights, and High Labor 
Standards Globally (Global Labor Strategy) to enhance the United States 
government's approach to protecting and promoting worker rights at home 
and around the world. The FY25 President's Budget does not include a 
specific request for the Global Labor Strategy.
    How will the Department contribute resources and capacity to ensure 
the successful implementation of the Global Labor Strategy and the 
elevation of the U.S. as a global leader on labor rights and standards?
    Answer. The Global Labor Strategy commits U.S. agencies operating 
abroad to a whole-of-government approach in the elevation and 
integration of workers' rights and the promotion of high labor 
standards in our foreign, international development, trade, climate, 
and global economic policy priorities. As one of the agencies with 
leading responsibilities in international labor affairs, the Department 
has developed a range of knowledge, resource, and training materials, 
which it will continue to make available to other U.S. departments and 
agencies. For example, the Department has used existing resources to 
collaborate with the Department of Homeland Security/Customs and Border 
Protection on training and to improve policy coherence with the 
Departments of Energy and State. Priority countries for implementation 
of the Global Labor Strategy identified by the White House are already 
providing opportunities for the United States to demonstrate leadership 
on key labor issues, and U.S. agencies operating abroad are promoting 
the whole-of-government approach in international engagements. The 
Department will continue to apply existing resources--primarily in the 
form of staff expertise and collaboration--to support full 
implementation of the Global Labor Strategy within the U.S. government.
    Question. How will the Department sustain and leverage the 
Multilateral Partnership for Organizing, Worker Empowerment, and 
Rights, the historic global initiative introduced in December 2021 as a 
component of the Biden-Harris Administration's Presidential Initiative 
for Democratic Renewal, to elevate the U.S. as a global leader on labor 
rights and standards?
    Answer. The Multilateral Partnership for Organizing, Worker 
Empowerment, and Rights (M-POWER) provides the Department an 
opportunity to amplify and multiply the impact of ILAB priorities by 
drawing on the collaboration of like-minded partners, including foreign 
governments, representative labor movements from around the world, 
labor-support organizations, and private philanthropic organizations. 
DOL has used its participation in M-POWER to coordinate international 
support for priority labor rights cases at the International Labor 
Organization (ILO), convene issue-focused discussions on emerging labor 
issues, and speed the United States Government (USG) and global 
responses to urgent incidents of labor organizations and activists 
facing threats and violence. M- POWER's activities and ILAB's work are 
mutually reinforcing and aligned with other high-profile whole-of-
government approaches to worker rights, like the Global Strategy.
    Question. The International Labor Affairs Bureau has developed new 
methods and tools to trace child labor and forced labor in global 
supply chains and build capacity of interagency partners to enhance the 
U.S. Government's ability to prevent the importation of goods made with 
forced labor.
    How does ILAB measure this increased capacity of interagency 
partners, refine strategies as needed, and establish goals for 
continuous improvement?
    Answer. Within the U.S. government, ILAB is the leading provider of 
in-depth research and expertise, both in particular regions and 
countries, as well as sectors, on global labor abuses. ILAB plays a 
critical role in supporting Administration priorities on supply chains; 
and elevating worker rights by developing tools, identifying best 
practices, and funding technical cooperation projects. Furthermore, 
ILAB supports counterparts of U.S. government agencies to take 
enforcement actions that ensure global supply chains are free of labor 
rights abuses.
    ILAB analyzes and traces supply chains, including researching goods 
that are made with inputs produced with forced labor or child labor. 
These findings are made public on the List of Goods Produced by Child 
Labor or Forced Labor. ILAB shares this research with partner agencies 
to support implementation of the import prohibition under section 307 
of the Tariff Act of 1930 and the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act 
(UFLPA) to make sure products sold in the U.S. are not tainted with 
forced labor.
    ILAB also prioritizes the promotion of labor rights and the voice 
of workers in global supply chains. ILAB expands efforts to counter 
forced labor through work with counterpart Federal agencies, including 
through the Forced Labor Enforcement Task Force (FLETF) as well as 
through work with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 
(NOAA). ILAB uses several indicators to measure progress on ongoing 
engagement and coordination strategy with interagency partners, which 
include:
  --Forced Labor Enforcement Task Force: ILAB contributes to the 
        development of the FLETF's Biannual Enforcement reports to 
        Congress, highlighting ILAB's work over the previous reporting 
        period. To date, ILAB has contributed to seven reports. ILAB's 
        Deputy Undersecretary Thea Lee serves as co-chair of the UFLPA 
        Entity List Subcommittee, along with the Department of Homeland 
        Security. This Subcommittee is responsible for additions, 
        removals, and modifications to the UFLPA Entity List, a list of 
        entities the FLETF has determined meet the criteria outlined in 
        the UFLPA under Sections 2(d)(2)(B)(i), (ii), (iv), and (v). 
        Since the initial release of the list in June 2022, ILAB has 
        been actively involved in the addition of all 68 entities to 
        the UFLPA Entity List and is committed to further expansion of 
        the list. DOL also provides litigation advice and support to 
        the Department of Justice to defend the FLETF's procedures for 
        and additions to the UFLPA Entity List. Finally, as a principal 
        member of the FLETF, ILAB participates in regular external 
        stakeholder engagement sessions, such as the Biannual UFLPA 
        Sessions with both private sector and civil society 
        organizations (CSOs); to date, we have held six sessions.
  --Customs and Border Protection (CBP): The Trafficking Victims 
        Protection Reauthorization Act of 2005 (TVPRA) mandated that 
        DOL collaborate with U.S. government agencies, including CBP, 
        to ensure that products made by forced labor and child labor in 
        violation of international standards are not imported into the 
        United States. As part of this same mandate, ILAB consults with 
        CBP and other interagency partners to reduce forced labor and 
        child labor internationally through sharing our reporting. 
        Additionally, ILAB participates in joint stakeholder engagement 
        sessions, including CBP's annual Trade Symposium, where ILAB 
        has presented for the last 5 years.
  --Forced labor identification in Illegal, Unregulated and Unreported 
        (IUU) Fishing: ILAB engages with interagency partners as 
        directed by the Memorandum on Combatting Illegal, Unreported 
        and Unregulated Fishing and Associated Labor Abuses (NSM-11). 
        Examples include participation in the U.S. Interagency Working 
        Group on IUU Fishing, collaboration with the U.S. Coast Guard 
        on the development of forced labor training modules and 
        Maritime Operational Threat Response processes, and with NOAA 
        to include labor considerations in their Improving 
        International Fisheries Management report to Congress.
    Question. Please provide examples of outcomes associated with 
ILAB's recent efforts in this area?
    Answer. ILAB's leadership on supply chain issues is demonstrated 
through participation in interagency working groups, such as co-
chairing the Senior Policy Operating Group's Procurement and Supply 
Chain subcommittee, as well as contributing expertise to whole-of-
government efforts like Executive Order 14017 Securing America's 
Critical Supply Chains and the National Action Plan for Responsible 
Business Conduct.
    ILAB leverages flagship reports (List of Goods Produced by Child 
Labor or Forced Labor, Findings on the Worst Forms of Child Labor, and 
List of Products Produced by Forced or Indentured Child Labor), tools 
(Sweat & Toil, Comply Chain, and Better Trade Tool), technical 
assistance, and expertise, to engage and collaborate with both 
interagency partners as well as trading partners, such as Mexico, 
Canada, and the European Union.
    Additionally, ILAB is uniquely positioned to contribute to the 
implementation of the Presidential Memorandum on Advancing Worker 
Empowerment, Rights, and High Labor Standards Globally. This includes 
development of training modules and capacity building for interagency 
partners. Examples of this include ILAB's coordination with the U.S. 
Coast Guard to incorporate identification of forced labor into training 
modules. In March 2024, ILAB hosted an interagency briefing on the 
ILAB-funded Handbook on Detecting Forced Labor in Commercial Fishing, 
which informed 54 government officials from U.S. Coast Guard, State 
Department, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, 
NOAA, and others. In May 2024, ILAB staff met with the U.S. Coast Guard 
at port in Ecuador and discussed the use of the ILAB-funded Handbook on 
Detecting Forced Labor in Commercial Fishing and the useful tools this 
provides to U.S. Coast Guard personnel in their work. ILAB also works 
with NOAA to include considerations of forced labor within 
identification of nations engaging in IUU fishing. DOL's assistance 
resulted in NOAA identifying Taiwan and China for forced labor in 
fishing and has led to multiple rounds of bilateral consultations with 
Taiwan and China on these identifications.
    ILAB committed to mapping the List of Goods Produced by Child Labor 
or Forced Labor as well as List of Products Produced by Forced or 
Indentured Child Labor to procurement-related Product Service Codes 
(PSC) to increase use by the government acquisition workforce. Mapping 
the named products to PSC will facilitate analysis of procurement data 
by country of origin and assist contractors in implementing additional 
protections, such as those outlined in M-20-01, Anti-trafficking Risk 
Management Best Practices & Mitigation Considerations, where there is a 
heightened risk of forced labor issues. In addition, ILAB will also 
develop training material for Federal agencies on forced labor 
indicators to support their efforts to work with Federal contractors to 
combat labor risks in U.S. procurement supply chains. ILAB will 
disseminate trainings directly to USG procurement officers through 
ILAB's participation in the Senior Policy Operating Group. ILAB will 
make this information accessible for acquisition officers by creating a 
designated webpage with information about USG resources, including 
ILAB's child labor and forced labor reports.
    ILAB's technical assistance project Strengthening Decent Work in 
the Fishing Sector of South America, implemented by the ILO, has an 
objective to address labor abuses in the fishing sector in South 
America, with a focus on Ecuador and Peru. While the project is early 
in its implementation, there have been successes and a range of 
upcoming planned activities. For example, the project provided 
technical support for the Vice Ministry of Aquaculture and Fisheries of 
Ecuador with the objective of including labor matters into the 
organization's agenda. Between Peru and Ecuador, the project trained a 
total of 37 officials (17 women and 20 men) from government agencies 
dedicated to decent work in the artisanal aquaculture and fishing 
sector. Finally, the project adapted the ILO Handbook, ``Towards 
freedom at sea, Handbook for the detection of forced labor in 
commercial fishing,'' that will be used for upcoming trainings during 
the remainder of FY24 and in FY25.
    Question. How would the FY25 budget request further these efforts?
    Answer. Additional support will enable expanded supply chain 
research and greater coordination on key findings, UFLPA Entity List 
expansion, as well as additional engagement and coordination on 
responsible procurement efforts. In addition, ILAB's engagement and 
collaboration with key U.S. government agencies on forced labor issues 
enhances the U.S. government's ability to prevent the importation or 
procurement of goods made with forced labor. ILAB would further engage 
with key agency personnel on the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) 
related to Executive Order 13126, which requires Federal contractors to 
certify that they have made a good faith effort to determine whether 
forced or indentured child labor was used to produce the items 
supplied. In addition to continuing close collaboration with the U.S. 
Trade Representative, Department of Homeland Security, Customs and 
Border Protection, and State Department on forced labor issues, ILAB 
will also continue to prioritize engagement and collaboration with the 
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on labor abuses and 
forced labor in the seafood sector, particularly as connected to IUU 
fishing. Without additional funding, ILAB will instead be forced to cut 
various components of these activities, as ILAB's budget will not be 
able to support even current staff at a flat appropriation amount.
    Question. Acting Secretary Su, I know you share my appreciation for 
workers exercising their legal right to choose representation and have 
a voice in the workplace.
    Workers at hundreds of Starbucks locations across Wisconsin and the 
United States have filed petitions and voted to join a union as allowed 
under the National Labor Relations Act. That law is under the 
jurisdiction of the National Labor Relations Board, which has 
determined in dozens of cases that Starbucks violated that law.
    The Department of Labor oversees important requirements for 
employers to report on spending intended to persuade their workers not 
to join a union, including through the use of labor consultants. 
However, employers frequently cite loopholes to hide this spending from 
their workers.
    What actions are you taking to improve the required reporting of 
spending on efforts to persuade workers not to join a union, and how 
does the budget propose to further strengthen those efforts?
    Answer. The Department is committed to strengthening its 
enforcement activities to protect workers' right to unionize and 
bargain collectively. Workers have the right to know about the 
existence of persuader and consultant agreements at their worksites, 
and to receive that information in a timely and complete manner. 
Workers and the public benefit from knowing the sources and amounts of 
employer spending on persuader and surveillance activities regarding 
union organizing. Employers and labor relations consultants have an 
obligation to report their expenditures made, and agreements entered, 
where the objective is to persuade employees to not exercise their 
federally protected rights under the Labor-Management Relations Act.
    The Department has undertaken significant efforts to enforce and 
secure timely and accurate reporting from employers on persuader and 
surveillance activities. Some of these efforts include:
  --Expanding the ``cross-match'' program to better identify employers 
        and consultants engaged in reportable activity;
  --Initiating a persuader tip line, beginning in May 2022, for the 
        public to report persuader activity, which has led to 131 tips 
        processed and 110 tip-related reports received, as of early 
        May, 2024;
  --Creating a new and updating an existing fact sheet and conducting a 
        nationwide webinar all geared toward advising employers and 
        labor relations consultants on their obligations to disclose 
        persuader activities and how to properly and timely complete 
        the disclosure forms;
  --Initiating information sharing with the NLRB to obtain information 
        on unfair labor practices as such activities may be reportable;
  --Increasing the number of ``special reports'' cases completed, which 
        includes persuader cases, from just 70 in fiscal year (FY) 2021 
        to 106 in FY 2022 and 100 in FY 2023; and
  --Conducting direct outreach to unions, employers, and consultants to 
        inform them of persuader reporting obligations.
    These achievements have led to a significant increase in persuader 
reports collected, from just 314 Form LM-20 consultant reports in FY 
2021, to 747 in FY 2022, and 761 in FY 2023. We fully anticipate that 
the number of reports collected in the current fiscal year and FY 2025 
will further increase as we continue to step up our compliance 
assistance and enforcement efforts in this area.
    With the requested funding, the Department would allocate 
additional investigative resources to help drive more on-time and 
accurate persuader reporting. At the requested funding level, the 
Department could sustain its compliance assistance and enforcement 
efforts to ensure that employers and labor consultants fulfill their 
obligations to report their persuader and surveillance activities 
timely and accurately.
    Question. In which year did the Department conduct the highest 
proportion of H- 2A and H-2B visa program investigations relative to 
the total number of H-2A and H-2B worksites?
    Answer. In 2023, the Department certified approximately 378,000 
temporary agricultural jobs under the H-2A program compared to 258,000 
certified jobs in 2019. The Wage and Hour Division (WHD) is responsible 
for enforcing the terms and conditions of employment required under the 
H-2A program, including those related to recruitment, wages, housing, 
transportation, and recordkeeping for employers of temporary non-
immigrant agricultural workers and non-H-2A workers in corresponding 
employment.
    Over the last 5 years, WHD has concluded 2,000 H-2A compliance 
actions in the agricultural industry where it found violations.
    WHD Concluded Cases with H-2A Violations:
  --FY 2019: 431
  --FY 2020: 377
  --FY 2021: 358
  --FY 2022: 421
  --FY 2023: 413
    Under the H-2B program, employers may temporarily employ 
nonimmigrants to perform nonagricultural labor or services in the 
United States. The H-2B program requires the employer, among other 
obligations, to attest to the Department of Labor that it will offer 
and pay a wage that equals or exceeds the highest of the prevailing 
wage, applicable Federal minimum wage, the State minimum wage, or local 
minimum wage to the H-2B nonimmigrant worker for the occupation in the 
area of intended employment during the entire period of the approved H-
2B labor certification. The H-2B program also establishes certain 
recruitment and displacement standards to protect similarly employed 
U.S. workers.
    Over the last 5 years, WHD has concluded 530 H-2B compliance 
actions where it found violations. WHD Concluded Cases with H-2B 
Violations:
  --FY 2019: 108
  --FY 2020: 124
  --FY 2021: 125
  --FY 2022: 100
  --FY 2023: 73
    Question. What was the total cost of conducting these 
investigations that year?
    Answer. WHD enforces more than 13 statutes that protect more than 
165 million workers at 11 million workplaces nationwide and conducts 
approximately 20,000 compliance actions each year with its current FY 
2024 appropriation of $260,000,000. These actions include 
conciliations, limited investigations, and full investigations. WHD 
continues to be as strategic as possible with its limited resources to 
have the greatest impact for the most vulnerable workers, on average, 
across all the laws it enforces.
    Question. What would it cost the Department to conduct H-2A and H-
2B temporary visa program investigations in FY25 at or above the level 
identified in 6a?
    Answer. The President's budget for FY 2025 requests an additional 
187 FTE and an increase of $20,818,000 to restore WHD's enforcement 
strength to address the full breadth of WHD's enforcement to protect 
the most low-wage, vulnerable workers including workers under the H-2A 
and H-2B program. For every $1 million investment in WHD enforcement, 
the agency can conduct 260 more cases, recover $2.7 million more in 
back wages, and help 2,300 more workers.
    Question. Please describe the Department's process to prioritize 
complaint-based investigations.
    Answer. The Department's WHD continues to fully maximize resources 
to protect workers and ensure a level playing field for employers, 
despite experiencing historically low staffing levels and virtually 
flat- funding. The Department is one of the only avenues that 
nonimmigrant workers have to obtain remedies from employers that 
violate the law, as affected employees have no private right of action 
under H-1B, H-2A, or H-2B programs. WHD achieves impact in the H-
programs through strategic planning, ingenuity, and data-driven 
enforcement strategies coupled with training improvements for 
enforcement staff.
    Based on the Department's enforcement experience, workers employed 
under the H-2A program face unique risks of exploitation, in part 
because of the temporary nature of the work, frequent geographic 
isolation and dependence on a single employer for housing, 
transportation, and employment. WHD prioritizes investigations where 
farmworkers' safety and health are at risk. This includes, for example, 
instances where it is reported workers do not have access to drinking 
water while working in the fields, workers report a pest infestation at 
the housing facility, or workers are not provided adequate heating 
during cold weather. Similarly, WHD prioritizes its resources to 
address situations where the safety of H-2B workers is at risk, such as 
situations where H-2B workers are transported by the employer in 
vehicles that do not comply with all applicable Federal, state, and 
local laws and regulations.
    WHD would welcome the opportunity to brief the Senator's staff 
further regarding this set of questions to ensure they are getting the 
feedback necessary to understand WHD's enforcement and related budget 
needs.
    Question. The FY25 President's Budget for the Department of Labor 
proposes to make certain appropriations to the Department available for 
obligation for two fiscal years. This includes proposals for the 
Department's worker protection agencies. The Department notes in its 
budget summary ``The multi-year availability would reduce the impact of 
short-term continuing resolutions at no cost to the annual 
appropriations bill, enhance staff oversight of the programs they are 
administering, and provide greater capacity to maintain staffing even 
if operating under a continuing resolution.''
    Please provide more information on how 2 year authority would 
achieve each of the benefits noted above for the Department's worker 
protection agencies.
    Answer. Multi-year authority would enable the Department's agencies 
to carry over funds from one fiscal year to the next, reducing 
disruptions caused by short-term continuing resolutions. The Congress 
often does not appropriate full-year funds until well into the fiscal 
year, typically between December and April, leaving a short timeframe 
for agencies to carry out their spending plans. Having multi-year 
funding would provide more time for agencies to plan and execute their 
funding, rather than trying to accomplish twelve months of work in the 
last few months of a fiscal year. In future years, this greater 
certainty will also allow agencies to maintain more staff, as they 
would be able to smooth out some of their contract and procurement 
activities. Additional staff are critical to the Department's worker 
protection agencies, because these enforcement personnel safeguard 
working conditions, health and retirement benefits, and pay for 
America's workers.
    Congress often passes full-year appropriations legislation at the 
end of December, but there is lack of certainty even in that timeframe. 
In fiscal year (FY) 2024, the Department received full-year funding at 
the end of March, and in FY 2017, Congress did not pass a full-year 
bill until May. Throughout the FY 2024 budget process, Congress was 
negotiating with very different funding levels, and agencies must wait 
to make decisions until there is certainty with regard to funding 
levels. This lack of certainty provides an extremely short window for 
accomplishing a full year's worth of work before the funds expire. 
Multi-year funding will allow agencies to plan and appropriately devote 
resources towards contracts, rent, and personnel over 15 to 18 months, 
rather than having to compress decisions into the last few months of a 
fiscal year.
    Question. What policies would be established to ensure appropriated 
funds are used in a timely way to most effectively achieve the missions 
of worker protection agencies?
    Answer. The Department is committed to ensuring funds are used in a 
timely way to achieve the missions of its worker protection agencies. 
Multi-year funding would allow the Department to better plan, and more 
effectively utilize appropriated dollars.
    The Department currently has several policies and procedures in 
place to support the goal of timely use of funds. Funds are apportioned 
quarterly, and the Department follows all of the policies and 
procedures for apportioning funds, as outlined in the Office of 
Management and Budget's Circular No. A-11. Following apportionment, the 
Department allots and sub-allots funds, following the same quarterly 
breakdown and budget activity/program as outlined in the apportionment. 
Departmental budget staff regularly monitor the status of obligations. 
OMB posts apportionments, including the Department of Labor's 
apportionments, publicly on their central webpage. In addition, OMB 
regularly produces the Standard Form (SF)-133, a Report on Budget 
Execution and Budgetary Resources. These documents assist Congress in 
its oversight responsibilities by providing the status of funds, 
including unliquidated obligations, unobligated balances, cancelled 
balances, and adjustments made to appropriation accounts during the 
fiscal year.
    Through these policies and procedures, the Department ensures the 
timely use of funds and provides transparency on the status of all 
funds.
    Question. The Department's New Core Financial Management System 
(NCFMS) is the financial system of record that annually processes an 
estimated 454,000 invoices, 266,000 payments, and 47,000 obligation 
documents, and is used to manage and account for nearly $60 billion of 
taxpayer funds. The contract for NCFMS ends in 2026. The Department has 
stated that it will continue working with the Department of Treasury 
and Office of Management and Budget to implement a government-wide 
Financial Management Quality Service Management Office (QSMO) solution 
for the Department's NextGen financial management and transaction 
processing. QSMOs offer solutions for Federal agencies that, over time, 
will standardize processes, shrink the technology footprint, and cut 
government-wide operating costs.
    Would the Department please outline its two-year replacement 
schedule (including time for proper systems migration and testing) to 
meet that objective?
    Answer. The Department of Labor (DOL) is following the General 
Services Administration's (GSA) Modernization and Migration Management 
(M3) Playbook processes and procedures. In October 2022, the Office of 
the Chief Financial Officer (OCFO) collaborated with cognizant 
acquisition personnel to outline the vision for the operational end 
state. OCFO submitted a modernization plan to the Department of 
Treasury in April 2023.
    DOL Leadership is actively and collaboratively engaged with 
Treasury Financial Management (FM) Quality Service Management Office 
(QSMO) leadership via bi-monthly touchpoint meetings. The teams' 
ongoing activities include reviewing updates to the Financial 
Management Capabilities Framework, providing annual Financial System 
Profile information, attending Treasury Financial Management Working 
Group meetings, and Vendor User Group Meetings/Industry days.
    DOL has been identifying potential commercial vendors that provide 
Financial Management (FM) Technology Operations Support Services. There 
is currently a limited number of vendors that are technically 
qualified, and that limitation is preventing the Department from 
performing an adequate Analysis of the Alternatives. Given those 
limitations and keeping in mind the magnitude of DOL's operations and 
to permit time for proper systems migrations and testing, DOL is not on 
schedule to transition to a new Core Financial System before the end of 
the current contract (Period of Performance--09/29/2026). Accordingly, 
DOL is developing a plan for the possible extension of the operations 
and maintenance services for NCFMS. If necessary, DOL would adopt that 
plan to bridge any gap between the end of our current contract and the 
time we go live with an FM QSMO Core Financial System. Upon selection, 
OCFO will determine the proper systems migration and testing schedule 
and ensure it is factored into the replacement schedule.
    Question. Please summarize what the Department of Labor has learned 
thus far from the third-party evaluations under the Strengthening 
Community Colleges Training Grant Program (SCCT), including how much 
grantees are setting aside for third party evaluations and the 
processes grantees are using to find evaluators.
    Answer. To date, the Department's evaluation contractor for the 
Strengthening Community Colleges (SCC) program has provided the Round 1 
Grantee Interim Report Synthesis, which compiles responses from the 
implementation or developmental studies procured by the eleven Round 1 
(SCC1) grantees. The interim report suggests that SCC1 grantees have 
focused on developing employer and workforce partnerships as an initial 
step toward informing the development and implementation of newly 
(re)designed SCC courses and credentialing programs. Overall findings 
highlight how community colleges are making unique yet disparate 
strides in establishing collaborative and often formal partnerships 
with employers and workforce partners; developing learning 
opportunities for accelerated and accessible career pathways through 
technology, stackable credits, and work-based learning; developing 
pathways and courses that directly align to the knowledge, skills, and 
abilities their local employers need from their prospective employees; 
supporting successful systems change using cohesive recruitment 
strategies; securing buy-in from internal and external partners; and 
relying on gap analysis and solution development. Grantees are allowed 
to use up to 5 percent of their grant budget for their third-party 
evaluation for an implementation or developmental evaluation and must 
follow competitive procurement procedures under Federal Uniform 
Administrative Requirements at 2 CFR Part 200, as well as their 
college's procurement guidelines.
    The Department also launched a national evaluation of the SCC 
program in fiscal year (FY) 2023, which the Department believes will 
provide a broader landscape with a wide-ranging assessment and 
information distinct from the individual grantee evaluations. As part 
of the national evaluation, it is the Department's intent to conduct a 
rigorous impact study, which will add depth to the SCC research base. 
In its FY 2025 Budget, the Department proposes to eliminate the 
requirement for third-party evaluations for each individual grant 
proposal. The Department has found that requiring individual third-
party evaluations is not cost-effective, the quality of the evaluations 
varies significantly, and it is difficult to obtain national results 
from separate evaluations, even with syntheses.
    Question. What is the timeline for the national evaluation for FY23 
SCCT grantees described on page TES-5 of the FY25 Congressional Budget 
Justification?
    Answer. FY 2023 Strengthening Community Colleges Training Grants 
(fourth round, referred to as SCC4) started their period of performance 
on May 1, 2024. The national evaluator began its contract on March 19, 
2024. While all Round 4 grantees will be included in the implementation 
evaluation, the contractor will determine a study design for the impact 
evaluation and select grantees to be included in the impact evaluation 
by August 2024. Beginning in Fall 2024, and continuing through Winter 
2028, grantees will enroll students into the impact study, and the 
evaluators will conduct site visits and collect data. DOL will receive 
interim reports, briefs, and final reports starting in Summer 2025 and 
concluding in Winter 2029.
    Question. Please describe how a national database for WIOA Title I 
participants would allow better measurement of program output and 
outcomes to improve service delivery and impact.
    Answer. A national database of WIOA Title I and Wagner-Peyser Act 
Employment Service participants would help mitigate grantee burden and 
provide the flexibility to use multiple national data sources to 
calculate participant outcomes. Currently, the Department depends on 
state grantees to capture participant outcomes, but grantees are 
limited to the State Wage Interchange System (SWIS) to capture outcomes 
for participants that receive services in their state but find 
employment in another state. This has led to a situation where there 
are significant gaps in State and Eligible Training Provider reporting. 
A national database would allow for a cost-effective and comprehensive 
approach for capturing participant outcomes without the need for 
maintaining a comprehensive data sharing agreement with state grantees. 
Furthermore, the data in SWIS is limited to state unemployment 
insurance (UI) wage records and this data source does not capture 
information on self-employed individuals, Federal workers, and military 
personnel. A national database would allow the Department to supplement 
UI wage record matches with other data sources, such as Internal 
Revenue Service (IRS) data.
    The most effective way to definitively match WIOA and Wagner-Peyser 
participants to wage record data sources (e.g., NDNH, state quarterly 
UI wage records, SWIS, etc.) is with the participant's social security 
number (SSN). WIOA programs that provide training services through 
Eligible Training Providers rely on the availability of SSNs to conduct 
automated wage matching for performance outcome purposes. It is often 
challenging and resource intensive to collect employment status and 
earnings information through supplemental means such as manual 
participant follow-up. In addition to the core purpose of providing 
accurate performance outcomes, having SSNs would allow the Department 
to match participants to other data sources, allowing for a plethora of 
long-term research and evaluation activities. Allowing the Department 
to collect this information would enable the Department to directly 
link participants to external data sources such as NDNH and IRS to 
enhance outcome data and research and evaluation studies. Furthermore, 
the ability to collect participant SSNs would allow the creation of 
Federal longitudinal data sets, as well as foster the Department's 
ability to explore additional approaches to reduce the burden 
associated with state grantee performance reporting. The Department 
notes that a strong Federal data management role has been instrumental 
to the success of other efforts to measure the outcomes of education 
and training programs. A notable example is the Department of 
Education's (ED's) College Scorecard, which matches administrative ED 
student data with IRS tax data to produce rich, granular information on 
higher education program outcomes.
    Question. Please describe how DOL will support states in 
prioritizing job quality to help workers attain high quality jobs.
    Answer. The Departments of Labor and Commerce published Good Jobs 
Principles to clearly articulate what comprises a good job. The 
Department has incorporated job quality into all its competitive grant 
opportunities, for instance, requiring grant applicants to include 
partnerships with worker organizations and businesses or scoring 
applicants based on the degree to which they include strategies to 
advance Good Jobs Principles. The Department also published guidance 
for the public workforce system on incorporating job quality into 
workforce development activities, as Training and Employment Guidance 
Letter No. 7-22, Increasing Employer and Workforce System Customer 
Access to Good Jobs. The guidance described ways that states and local 
areas can prioritize job quality to help workers attain high quality 
jobs. The Department also hosted a Job Quality Academy that provided 
technical assistance to sixteen communities on how to prepare workers 
for Good Jobs in specific sectors growing in their regional economy. 
Subsequently, the Department shared these lessons with all workforce 
development grantees through webinars and discussions. The Department 
will continue to provide technical assistance to states to prioritize 
job quality.
    Question. What is the timeline for guidance and technical 
assistance that aims to increase youth voice in the WIOA Youth program 
described on pages TES-27/28 of the FY25 Congressional Budget 
Justification? How will DOL involve youth or organizations representing 
young people in the development of this guidance and technical 
assistance?
    Answer. The Department of Labor plans to publish technical 
assistance resources that will guide local youth and young adult 
workforce development programs in effectively engaging youth voice into 
programming in Fall 2024 and Winter 2025 and provide examples of ways 
communities can incorporate youth in strengthening youth service 
delivery systems. The technical assistance will be developed from the 
input provided by young adults (participants and subject matter 
experts) and youth-serving organizations during the two cohorts of the 
Youth Systems Building Academies conducted in 2023 and 2024--consistent 
with the Department's Youth Employment Works Strategy that aims to 
provide a ``no wrong door'' approach to young people in the workforce 
system. The Department is also committed to incorporating youth voice 
into its work through career pathway interns and ongoing work with 4-H.
    Question. Please provide more detail on the research and 
evaluations that will be conducted in support of continuous program 
improvement in the WIOA Youth program described on page TES-31 of the 
FY25 Congressional Budget Justification, including when data from such 
research and evaluations will be publicly available.
    Answer. A Youth Case Management and Services Formative Study is now 
underway. The study seeks to understand the key elements of effective 
case management/career coaching for youth, which in turn can inform the 
basis of professional development opportunities for youth-serving 
staff. Using existing evidence scans, analysis of existing program 
data, and information collected from several former and active youth-
related program evaluations, the study team will develop a paper that 
will describe the taxonomy of key youth case management competencies, 
skills, and practices; promising case management practices and 
strategies for underrepresented and marginalized youth populations; and 
professional development recommendations for youth case managers and 
related staff. The Department is also interested in identifying 
strategies that help eliminate barriers to accessing youth service 
programs. The Department anticipates release of the report in Spring 
2025.
    Question. Please describe how the Department will provide the 
technical assistance to dislocated workers described on page TES-40 of 
the FY25 Congressional Budget Justification, including what specific 
entities the TA will be provided to and whether it will be distributed 
nationwide.
    Answer. The Department provides technical assistance to all its 
grantees, including states, local areas, and competitive grantees. Most 
of the Department's technical assistance is distributed nationwide 
through the online platform WorkforceGPS.org. Additionally, the 
Department's regional offices provide tailored coaching to individual 
grantees facing unique challenges. Planned technical assistance for FY 
2025 touches topics including equity and job quality, such as the Job 
Quality Academy previously discussed, regular training for workforce 
development boards such as that available at WorkforceGPS, retraining 
and reemploying Americans impacted by economic change, integrating 
intake and case management systems such as the Aligned Case Management 
Institute, replicating effective practices often conducted in 
partnership with the Chief Evaluation Office, enhancing capacity to 
conduct and use evaluation such as the technical assistance available 
on WorkforceGPS' Evaluation and Research Hub, and performance 
accountability also available within WorkforceGPS' community of 
practice.
    Question. Please provide more detail on the efforts to expand 
registered apprenticeship opportunities for diverse and underserved 
populations as detailed on page TES-80 of the FY25 Congressional Budget 
Justification, including how DOL will measure the success of such 
efforts and provide publicly available information on the results of 
such efforts.
    Answer. Registered Apprenticeship (RA) programs are a powerful tool 
for growing and diversifying the American workforce. Ensuring equitable 
access to these opportunities for all qualified individuals remains a 
primary goal of the system as the Department works to ensure that 
apprenticeship opportunities are available to qualified workers who 
have historically been underrepresented in RAs. Sponsors of RA programs 
are tasked with ensuring that their apprenticeship workforces are 
accessible to all individuals available for apprenticeship within the 
communities in which they operate. To support that goal, the Department 
of Labor has in place Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) regulations 
for Registered Apprenticeship. These provisions, found at 29 CFR Part 
30, prohibit discrimination against apprentices and applicants for 
apprenticeship, with the intent of bolstering RA opportunities for all 
Americans, and require sponsors to identify and address possible 
barriers to apprenticeship for certain underrepresented populations, 
including Black and Hispanic women.
    The Department also strives to support pre-apprenticeship programs, 
which are designed to prepare individuals to enter into and succeed in 
a Registered Apprenticeship program. The American Apprenticeship 
Initiative (AAI) evaluation found that 89 percent of pre-apprentices 
supported through this initiative are from underrepresented populations 
and that these programs are a valuable strategy for diversifying 
pathways into Registered Apprenticeship. Given evidence of the growing 
use of pre-pprenticeships among underrepresented populations and their 
effectiveness as a tool to promote diversity, equity, inclusion, and 
accessibility, the Department recently released guidance on the 
characteristics of quality pre-apprenticeship programs, which includes 
strategies for embedding EEO principles in pre-apprenticeship program 
designs and examples of quality pre-apprenticeship programs in diverse 
settings. In addition, the Department has announced the availability of 
$100 million in funds for a second round of State Apprenticeship 
Expansion Formula (SAEF) grants and $95 million through the second 
round of Apprenticeship Building America (ABA) grants. These grants aim 
to support strategies that promote equitable Registered Apprenticeship 
pathways and partnerships, including through pre-apprenticeship, and 
also promote other efforts to strengthen external linkages that are in 
furtherance of equity and diversification goals that concurrently align 
with the Department's Good Jobs Principles. These efforts include the 
enforcement of codified Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) requirements 
that serve to expand the RAP model into both new and traditional 
industries in such a way that recruitment and enrollment outcomes are 
improved for workers from underrepresented populations and underserved 
communities. The Department continues to invest in formal evaluations 
of these grants to build an evidence-based portfolio for increasing 
access to and retention in Registered Apprenticeship for 
underrepresented populations.
    Finally, the Department's Office of Apprenticeship (OA) recently 
released an interactive tool on Apprenticeship.gov, the Apprenticeship 
Population Dashboard, which provides a comparison of all available 
demographic categories for active registered apprentices against the 
same demographic representation of the total available workforce at 
national, regional, state, and county levels. By pulling data from the 
Registered Apprenticeship Partners Information Database System (RAPIDS) 
and total available workforce data from the 2020 United States Census 
Bureau's American Community Survey (ACS), the dashboard promotes the 
value of data analysis to best inform strategic planning for the growth 
and modernization of Registered Apprenticeship.
    Question. The FY25 Congressional Budget Justification mentions that 
DOL conducted an inventory of equity-oriented data collected by 
agencies to better understand equity gaps in workforce programs (TES-
87). The budget justification further states that there is often 
missing demographic data for program participants. Please describe what 
if any TA DOL is providing to workforce agencies to improve the 
collection of this demographic data and any statutory or regulatory 
hurdles to collecting such data.
    Answer. The Department has several tools and resources to help 
states improve demographic data reporting:
    Tools:
  --State Workforce Services Dashboards: These dashboards examine WIOA 
        Title I & Wagner- Peyser Act Employment Service program data 
        quality, system reach, and differences in access to services 
        and outcomes between demographic groups by state. These 
        analyses were produced in response to Executive Order 13985, 
        Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities 
        Through the Federal Government.
  --WIOA by the Numbers: States collect and report key data about who 
        is served and their outcomes. The Department invites the public 
        and workforce system stakeholders to explore the performance 
        accountability data for WIOA Title I and the Wagner-Peyser Act 
        Employment Service. This tool allows users to better understand 
        workforce system outcomes, including Data by Map, State 
        Comparisons, and Data by Tables. Data can be filtered by race/
        ethnicity, veteran's status, and disability status. Data is 
        compiled from the WIOA Individual Performance Records Full Use 
        Data files, which takes data submitted by states on a quarterly 
        and yearly basis to the Department and is aggregated so there 
        are no fewer than three individual participants in a subgroup 
        so the data underlying the dashboard can be released while 
        respecting privacy concerns.
    Resources:
  --The Demographic Data Quality and Collection Self-Assessment Tool 
        increases awareness about the quality of demographic data and 
        helps State Workforce Agencies (SWA) and local American Job 
        Centers (AJCs) determine whether the demographic data 
        collection processes and procedures are effective and lead to 
        high-performing data collection. This resource also helps 
        agencies consider whether improvements can be made to increase 
        the quality and completeness of the data stored in the 
        workforce registration and performance reporting system. This, 
        in turn, enhances the service delivery and customer experience 
        for the workforce system.
  --The Demographic Data Quality Promising Practices brief provides 
        examples from workforce programs across the country. These 
        practices have helped workforce programs improve the quality 
        and completeness of ethnicity and race data responses in the 
        Participant Individual Record Layout (PIRL) and workforce 
        registration systems. The Demographic Data Quality Promising 
        Practices brief covers four areas: 1. Promoting Effective 
        Communication, Understanding, and Collaboration for Program 
        Equity 2. Determining Staffing Needs and Roles 3. Designing 
        Technical Processes to Improve Demographic Data Quality and 
        Completeness 4. Using Data to Make Informed Decisions.
    Question. Please provide data for FY19 to FY23 describing how many 
YouthBuild applications were submitted, how many YouthBuild 
applications were awarded, and the percentage of both rural and Native-
serving applicants and awardees for both FY19 to FY23.
    Answer.

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                                                    YouthBuild # of       Tribal           Rural          YouthBuild
                    Fiscal Year                       Applications     Applications     Applications       Awarded      Tribal  Awarded   Rural  Awarded
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2019..............................................             165         3 (1.8%)       27 (16.4%)               67         0 (0.0%)       11 (16.4%)
2020..............................................             130         1 (0.8%)       20 (15.4%)               68         0 (0.0%)       13 (19.1%)
2021..............................................             122         0 (0.0%)       23 (18.9%)               68         0 (0.0%)       13 (19.1%)
2022..............................................             142         2 (1.4%)       17 (12.0%)               68         1 (1.5%)       12 (17.6%)
2023..............................................             154         4 (2.6%)       36 (23.4%)               72         1 (1.4%)         18 (25%)
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    Question. Please describe any steps DOL can take to provide a more 
stable and predictable timeline for releasing FOAs and award 
announcements for the YouthBuild program.
    Answer. We appreciate that consistent YouthBuild FOA publication 
and grant awards are beneficial to the stability of YouthBuild 
programs. For the last 3 years (2021, 2022, and 2023) the Department 
has published the YouthBuild FOAs in November and subsequently 
announced awards in late April/early May. We will continue to work with 
internal and external stakeholders to ensure potential applicants are 
aware of the forecast for FOA publication, and we will widely share the 
funding opportunity.
    Question. On page TES-98 of the FY25 Congressional Budget 
Justification, DOL proposes to allows YouthBuild funds to count towards 
AmeriCorps' match requirements. Is legislation needed to accomplish 
this goal or could DOL change its policies administratively as other 
agencies have done on this issue?
    Answer. Yes, legislation would be necessary. Currently, Federal 
funds may only be used to match where the ``Federal statute authorizing 
a program specifically provides that Federal funds made available for 
such program can be applied to matching or cost sharing requirements of 
other Federal programs.'' (See Uniform Guidance at 2 CFR 
200.306(b)(5)). Even though the authorizing statutes for the CNCS 
programs allow required matches to be provided from other Federal 
sources, the YouthBuild provisions do not specifically provide that 
YouthBuild grant funds may be applied to such matching or cost sharing 
requirements.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Patty Murray
    Question. The Women's Bureau plays an important role in supporting 
paid leave.
    What steps has the Women's Bureau taken to support paid leave in 
fiscal year 2024?
    Answer. As the data make clear, women shoulder disproportionate 
unpaid caregiving obligations that can force untenable choices between 
the earnings their families rely on and the care needs of family 
members. Paid family and medical leave programs are a critical linchpin 
to ensure women can deliver on both sets of obligations, and the 
Women's Bureau champions inclusive and effective paid family medical 
leave policies. Although the Women's Bureau did not receive funding to 
revive the $10 million Paid Leave Analysis Grants Program proposed in 
the President's fiscal year (FY) 2024 Budget, the Women's Bureau 
maximized available resources to mount a robust set of paid leave-
related research and technical assistance activities in the first half 
of FY 2024.
    The Women's Bureau commissioned microsimulation modeling to produce 
data and analysis related to how paid family and medical leave programs 
interact with and enhance the reach and impact of existing safety net 
programs, and how policy changes increasing access to leave would 
affect the broader economy and individuals' economic security and well-
being. At the same time, the Women's Bureau has delivered sustained 
technical assistance to five states and numerous academic research 
teams over the course of the fiscal year in the use and functionalities 
of the Department's Worker Paid Leave Usage Simulation (Worker PLUS) 
model and posted the resulting analyses to the agency's website for 
public use. Worker PLUS is an open-source tool designed to estimate 
administrative costs, as well as the effects of various worker leave 
scenarios and policy options on leave taking behavior.
    In 2023, the Women's Bureau updated the Department's 2015 analysis 
of the economic costs incurred by not providing a universal paid family 
leave program, producing a new ``Cost of Doing Nothing'' report. The 
report found if women in the U.S. replicated the labor force attachment 
of countries with more comprehensive paid leave and related work/family 
supports, five million more women would participate in the labor force, 
with $775 billion in additional annual economic activity.\1\
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    The Women's Bureau also posted information to its website about 
paid family and medical leave, creating a Federal government resource 
on the state programs. This website includes issue briefs on paid 
leave, data, and information for workers and employers.
    In 2024, the Women's Bureau entered into an agreement with the 
Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) to initiate data 
collection on workers' access to and use of paid and unpaid leave and 
job flexibilities. This data will provide one of the best sources of 
nationally representative worker reported data on leave access. The 
2024 data collection effort will also provide a critical comparator to 
gauge leave and flexibility policies in the aftermath of the COVID-19 
pandemic. The Women's Bureau is also supporting the Department of 
Labor/Office of Personnel Management (DOL/OPM) partnership responsible 
for conducting a multi-year paid leave research and evaluation 
initiative to answer key questions surrounding the implementation and 
effects of the fledgling Federal Employee Paid Leave Act (FEPLA) 
program, enacted in 2020 to provide paid leave benefits to the nation's 
two million Federal public servants.
    Question. What steps does the Women's Bureau plan to take in 
supporting paid leave in fiscal year 2025?
    Answer. Even under the budget caps set by the Fiscal Responsibility 
Act, the Department is proposing to invest in the important 
Administration priority of supporting paid leave. The President's FY 
2025 Budget includes a $2.5 million increase for the Women's Bureau to 
re-launch its State Paid Leave Analysis Grants Program, alongside a 
complementary technical assistance effort to support states, 
researchers and others in proper utilization of the Department's Worker 
PLUS simulation tool, as well as a new Technical Assistance Hub to 
share best practices among states. In the original grant deployment 
between 2014 and 2016, WB funded $3M in paid leave micro-grants, which 
engaged 17 states and municipalities in exploring how they could 
establish paid family medical leave programs, to demonstrable effect. 
Namely, three states passed paid leave laws after receiving these 
grants; two states expanded their laws; and three large, urban 
jurisdictions helped establish conditions for their states subsequently 
passing legislation, as well as one locality that implemented a paid 
leave program for the public workforce.
    In the absence of additional funding, in FY 2025, the Bureau will 
only be equipped to provide limited technical assistance to states and 
other requesters interested in deploying Worker PLUS analysis. At the 
same time, the agency will continue to continue to staff the ongoing 
DOL/OPM evaluation of the Federal Employee Paid Leave Act (FEPLA) 
program for Federal workers. In addition to commissioned research and 
data collection, the Women's Bureau will continue to publish and 
disseminate shorter-form research briefs on various aspects of paid 
leave program models on the dedicated paid leave section of its 
website, as well as any resulting analysis from technical assistance in 
use of the Worker PLUS tool.
    Question. Climate change is increasing workers' exposure to smoke--
which is a huge issue in my home state of Washington where many 
agricultural workers already suffer from smoke-related illnesses. Right 
now, there are still no Federal standards specifically protecting 
workers from smoke.
    What steps has the Occupational Safety and Health Administration 
taken to better protect workers who are exposed to dangerous levels of 
smoke while doing their jobs in fiscal year 2024?
    How does the Occupational Safety and Health Administration propose 
to better protect workers in fiscal year 2025?
    Answer. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) 
has a comprehensive website with safety tips and resources to help 
employers and workers reduce their exposure to smoke during wildfires. 
OSHA also has a preparedness page that provides information on 
evacuation plans, safety zones around buildings, and equipment to have 
on hand in case a wildfire occurs. Preparing evacuation plans in 
advance is key to helping workers get to safety before a wildfire 
affects an area and can also help prevent the impact from smoke. In 
addition, OSHA issued a national news release last summer (OSHA News 
Release, June 9, 2023) urging employers to have a plan to protect 
outdoor workers from hazards associated with poor air quality. The news 
release outlined the hazards associated with wildfires and provided 
ways that employers can prepare for and implement procedures to reduce 
exposures to smoke when necessary.
    OSHA will continue its outreach efforts to educate employers and 
will consider reissuance of its June 9, 2023, News Release to reiterate 
the need for employers to plan and prepare to protect workers from 
dangerous levels of smoke, as well as timely reminders to employers in 
regions of Federal OSHA coverage where workers are expected to be 
exposed to high levels of smoke.
    Question. Last year, I led the effort to pass the Beryllium Testing 
Fairness Act as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for 
Fiscal Year 2024. What steps has the Office of Workers' Compensation 
Programs taken to implement the new law, including any outreach the 
Department has conducted to make potential claimants aware of the 
changes to the program?
    Answer. The Beryllium Testing Fairness Act (the Act), passed as 
part of the Fiscal Year 2024 National Defense Authorization Act, 
includes a change to the Energy Employees Occupational Illness 
Compensation Program Act (EEOICPA) in relation to the establishment of 
beryllium sensitivity under Part B. In addition to existing statutory 
provisions, beryllium sensitivity under Part B can now also be 
established by submitting three borderline beryllium lymphocyte 
proliferation tests or beryllium lymphocyte transformation tests, 
performed on blood cells, that are conducted over a period of 3 years. 
The Department of Labor (the Department) is committed to increasing 
awareness of these program changes.
    To share this information, the Department's Office of Workers' 
Compensation Programs (OWCP), Division of Energy Employees Occupational 
Illness Compensation (DEEOIC), published EEOICPA Bulletin No. 24-01, 
Updated Criteria for Establishing Beryllium Sensitivity.\2\ The 
Bulletin provides DEEOIC staff with guidance about operationalizing the 
new standard during the evaluation of beryllium sensitivity claims. 
OWCP is currently in the process of making the necessary regulatory 
changes consistent with the Act's EEOICPA amendment. In addition, OWCP 
is in the process of reviewing all denied cases (1,158 cases) that may 
be impacted by the statutory, and resulting rule, change. DEEOIC will 
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the beryllium-related law changes. Specifically, OWCP emailed EEOICPA 
Bulletin No 24-01 to claimants and stakeholders. OWCP also promoted and 
held a Stakeholder Updates Webinar at which the changes to the law were 
discussed. This webinar was announced to claimants and stakeholders in 
advance of the event. The slides from the March 2024 webinar are posted 
on the Department's website.\3\ Finally, the DEEOIC Policy Branch 
provided a briefing to the Department's Advisory Board on Toxic 
Substances and Worker Health on the changes to the law and their impact 
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                Questions Submitted by Senator Jack Reed
WIOA Formula Grants
    Question. Rhode Island, like many other states, is experiencing 
record employment, and we desperately need more skilled workers . . . 
to build submarines . . . to work on our burgeoning life sciences 
sector . . . to build our infrastructure . . . and in many other areas. 
Unfortunately, just when we desperately need more investment in 
workforce development, our WIOA formula grant funding is declining by 8 
to 9 percent each year because our unemployment rate is low. What are 
your recommendations for ensuring that the formulas for distributing 
WIOA funds are responsive to workforce development needs during a time 
of very low unemployment?
    Answer. The statutory formulas governing WIOA Youth, Adult and 
Dislocated Worker funds are designed to shift funds to states with 
proportionally more unemployment than other states and already use stop 
loss, or minimum provisions, to mitigate losses. Given the design of 
the current formulas, there will always be some states that lose funds 
over prior year allotments. In times of low unemployment, the excess 
unemployment rate of 4.5 percent established in WIOA can result in a 
state losing out on one- third of the funding associated with that data 
factor. In these circumstances, the minimum provisions mitigate the 
drop in funding. To a lesser extent, the Areas of Substantial 
Unemployment threshold of 6.5 percent can also result in similar 
exclusions to one-third of the funding at the state level, but this is 
more of a concern within sub-state allocation formulas than state 
allotment formulas. Periods of very high and low unemployment can both 
result in reduced allotment levels for some states. During the great 
recession in 2008, states with chronically high unemployment that 
always received one-third of the funding associated with the excess 
unemployment data factor saw steep losses to their formula funds for 
several years because many new states suddenly had excess unemployment, 
which reduced the relative share of that data factor for those states 
with chronically high unemployment. In response, Congress added a stop 
gain provision to the Dislocated Worker formula in WIOA (in addition to 
the provisions for Youth and Adult that existed in WIA) to mitigate 
large shifts in funding.
    WIOA reauthorization legislation could revise the definition of 
excess unemployment and set different thresholds based on the level of 
national unemployment (and for sub state formulas and state 
unemployment). Any change to the formula impacts all states. The 
Department would be pleased to discuss this issue further and can model 
scenarios to evaluate the impact of various changes to the formula.
Public Libraries and Workforce Development
    Question. In the FY24 Report that accompanied the Labor, HHS, 
Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations bill, I included 
language asking the Employment and Training Administration to work with 
the Institute of Museum and Library Services to identify barriers to 
libraries participating in WIOA programs and develop a plan to address 
those barriers. Please provide an update on your actions to address 
this report language.
    Answer. The Department held periodic meetings with Institute of 
Museum and Library Service (IMLS) staff throughout FY 2023 and will 
continue to do so in FY 2024, including discussions on how the 
Department can help identify barriers to libraries participating in 
WIOA programs. With IMLS input, the Department held a live webinar in 
May 2023 for librarians, showing the capabilities of CareerOneStop.org 
and how librarians can utilize the website to assist customers in job 
search, career exploration, completing job applications, and many other 
tasks. Since 2023, the Department and IMLS have continued to engage 
libraries as they provide workforce services to their customers. The 
Department conducts quarterly webinars regarding CareerOneStop.org to 
demonstrate the tools available on the website, to which libraries, 
including Public Library Association (PLA) members, are invited to 
attend. Additionally, staff that work on the CareerOneStop site 
routinely attend the national PLA conference where they provide 
demonstrations to attendees; CareerOneStop promotes the conference and 
its website content via the CareerOneStop social media channels. The 
Department will continue to engage public libraries in workforce 
service delivery, on how to improve content on CareerOneStop, and on 
how to help remove barriers for library participation in providing 
workforce services within WIOA.
Job Corps
    Question. The FY23 NDAA mandated the inclusion of Navy shipbuilding 
workforce development incentives into new shipbuilding construction 
contracts. This month, the Exeter Job Corps Campus in Rhode Island 
hosted a shipbuilding workforce event with the Navy and its 
shipbuilders, including Electric Boat. Please provide information about 
the work Job Corps is doing with the Navy and our nation's shipbuilders 
to help address this critical workforce shortage.
    Answer. Since September 2023, the Department has coordinated with 
the Department of the Navy (DON) and the Naval Sea Systems Command 
(NAVSEA) to build awareness, career pathways, and opportunities for 
young adults to gain exposure to shipbuilding careers and occupations, 
and to begin building a pipeline of qualified workers who are ready to 
work for employers that serve the Navy's shipbuilding interests, some 
of which may provide registered apprenticeship program opportunities.
    The Department began this partnership through targeted 
collaboration and by hosting five shipbuilding-themed career fairs. The 
goal of these career fairs is to introduce shipbuilding occupations to 
students who are currently enrolled in technical training programs, 
including machinist, sheet metal fabricator, and electrical training 
programs.
    Job Corps programs are advancing the connection with the Navy's 
shipbuilding contractors beyond the major events the Department has 
hosted. For example:
  --Fincantieri, located in Green Bay, WI, has hosted Job Corps 
        students on tours of their facility, met with local Job Corps 
        leaders, and hosted job interviews for the initial group of 
        students who were interested in careers with their 
        organization.
  --Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, located in Kittery, ME, has hosted 
        discussions on the Federal hiring system with students who are 
        interested in applying for jobs in their organization and has 
        provided advice on how to submit applications with the best 
        chance for acceptance. The team at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard 
        also continues to provide the Job Corps program with valuable 
        feedback related to the curriculum and training equipment used 
        to prepare students for jobs in the shipbuilding industry.
  --Eastern Shipbuilding, located in Pensacola, FL, has hosted numerous 
        virtual information sessions since the career fair events were 
        held. These sessions have included overviews of their available 
        occupations and feedback related to the skills needed to 
        maintain jobs in their organization. Eastern Shipbuilding has 
        hired five Job Corps students from as far away as Shreveport, 
        LA, and continues to be one of the employers of choice for many 
        students who are focusing the outcome of their training on 
        shipbuilding occupations.
  --Huntington Ingalls Shipbuilding (Ingalls), located in Pascagoula, 
        MS, has been exceptionally active within the Job Corps 
        community. Since the career fair in which they participated, 
        Ingalls, at the request of the Office of Jobs Corps (OJC), was 
        a co-presenter at the National Association of Workforce Boards 
        Forum held in Washington, DC, in March 2024. Ingalls, along 
        with partners from the Department of the Navy's Shipbuilding 
        Industrial Base Task Force, addressed workforce leaders to 
        describe the need for skilled workers in this industry sector 
        and to tout the relationship with Job Corps to provide younger 
        job seekers with high quality training that can lead to jobs in 
        the shipbuilding workforce. Ingalls has held numerous virtual 
        and on-site dialogues with Job Corps campuses in the 
        southeastern part of the country to help acculturate 
        shipbuilding occupations in the Job Corps community and thus 
        create larger pipelines of interested students. Ingalls is 
        preparing to visit nine additional campuses by the end of July 
        2024 to meet with students who are enrolled in technical 
        training programs that support shipbuilding occupations to 
        describe the benefits of working in the shipbuilding industry, 
        and more specifically, in the Ingalls Shipbuilding 
        organization.
    OJC continues to hold regular discussions with the Department of 
the Navy's Industrial Base Task Force to strategically address the 
challenges related to connecting Job Corps students to shipbuilding 
employers with high-volume occupational needs. The Department has 
identified relocation as a significant barrier, given that most of the 
Job Corps campuses are not located near shipbuilding ports. The Navy 
appears to be working with its shipbuilding community to contemplate 
ways in which it may be able to help overcome this challenge.
    OJC and the Navy also are planning to focus partnership efforts in 
Arkansas, as Camden, AR, is host to the largest ammunitions 
manufacturing companies in the country. The Navy has advised the 
Department that, as with shipbuilding occupations, the organizations 
that provide them with ballistics are facing hiring challenges. Work is 
currently underway to bring these organizations to Job Corps campuses 
to initiate dialogue with interested students.
    In support of the activities detailed above, Job Corps will 
continue to host career fairs, which, to date, have been hosted by Job 
Corps campuses that are in relative proximity to areas that have a high 
density of shipbuilding vendors who are contracted to build or maintain 
the Navy's fleet and have a substantial need for a skilled workforce to 
meet their contracted deliverables. Since the initial shipbuilding 
career fair, a total of 41 Job Corps campuses have participated in the 
events and over 600 students have attended. A detailed breakdown of the 
five career fairs the Department has hosted follows:
  --Mississippi Job Corps Shipbuilding Career Fair (September 2023):
    --Employers Represented: 5
      -- Eastern Shipbuilding
      -- Austal USA
      -- Hiller
      -- Bollinger Mississippi Shipyards, LLC
      -- Ingalls Shipbuilding
    --Job Corps Students Attended: 150
    --Job Corps Campuses Represented: 8
      -- Campuses in Attendance: Shreveport (LA), New Orleans (LA), 
            Little Rock (AR), Gulfport (MS), Mississippi (MS), Finch-
            Henry (MS), Benjamin Hooks (TN), Gadsden (AL)
  --Milwaukee Job Corps Shipbuilding Career Fair (November 2023)
    --Employers Represented: 6
      -- INGE Team
      -- Milwaukee Valve
      -- Metal TEK International
      -- DRS Naval Power
      -- Fincantieri Marine Group
      -- Fairbanks Morse Defense
    --Job Corps Students Attended: 70
    --Job Corps Campuses Represented: 5
  --Campuses in Attendance: Milwaukee (WI), Blackwell (WI), Paul Simon 
        (IL), Joliet (IL), Gerald Ford (MI)
  --San Diego Job Corps Shipbuilding Career Fair (January 2024)
    --Employers Represented: 3
      -- Continental Maritime of San Diego
      -- General Dynamics
      -- Austal USA
    --Job Corps Students Attended: 110
    --Job Corps Campuses Represented: 7
      -- Campuses in Attendance: San Diego (CA), Treasure Island (CA), 
            San Jose (CA), Los Angeles (CA), Inland Empire (CA), Long 
            Beach (CA), Sacramento (CA)
  --Penobscot Job Corps Shipbuilding Career Fair (April 2024)
    --Employers Represented: 2
      -- General Dynamics Bath Iron Works
      -- Portsmouth Naval Shipyard
    --Job Corps Students Attended: 120
    --Job Corps Campuses Represented: 18
      -- Campuses in Attendance: Penobscot (ME), Loring (ME), 
            Northlands (VT), New Hampshire (NH), Shriver (MA), Grafton 
            (MA), Exeter (RI), Hartford (CT), New Haven (CT), South 
            Bronx (NY), Edison (NJ), Glenmont (NY), Westover (NY), 
            Oneonta (NY), Iroquois (NY), Delaware Valley (NY), 
            Cassadaga (NY), Arecibo (PR)
  --Exeter Job Corps Shipbuilding Career Fair (May 2024)
    --Employers Represented: 3
      -- Portsmouth Naval Shipyard
      -- Amtrol Inc
      -- Electric Boat
    --Job Corps Students Attended: 160
    --Job Corps Campuses Represented: 21
      -- Campuses in Attendance: Penobscot (ME), Loring (ME), 
            Northlands (VT), New Hampshire (NH), Shriver (MA), Grafton 
            (MA), Exeter (RI), Hartford (CT), New Haven (CT), South 
            Bronx (NY), Edison (NJ), Glenmont (NY), Westover (NY), 
            Oneonta (NY), Iroquois (NY), Delaware Valley (NY), 
            Cassadaga (NY), Arecibo (PR), Red Rock (PA), Keystone (PA), 
            Philadelphia (PA)
    The Department is currently planning its sixth shipbuilding career 
fair, which will take place in Virginia in August 2024.
    Question. The Fiscal Year 2024 National Defense Authorization Act 
included a provision to allow Job Corps Centers to be eligible 
placements for the Troops to Teachers Program. What are some other 
steps we can take to better support Job Corps Center staffing?
    Answer. The Troops to Teachers (TTT) program provides funds to 
recruit, prepare, and support service members and veterans to become 
certified and employed as teachers, including in schools in areas with 
high levels of poverty. Successful TTT candidates obtain certification 
or licensing as elementary and secondary school teachers, as well as 
vocational or technical teachers. The TTT program also helps 
participants find employment in high-need local education agencies or 
charter schools. Section 573 of the National Defense Authorization Act 
for Fiscal Year 2024, Public Law 118-31, titled, ``Extension of Troops-
To-Teachers Program To The Job Corps'', extends the opportunity to Job 
Corps Centers to hire these highly qualified teachers.
    Other steps that would support Job Corps Center staffing include 
the Executive Orders increasing the minimum wage for Federal 
contractors. In addition, personnel incentives such as eligibility for 
loan forgiveness and tuition reimbursement, modern technology to 
support academic learning, and sponsorship for professional development 
and certifications all could increase retention.
    Question. How much of a factor is pay in recruiting teachers and 
how do Job Corps salaries compare with salaries in our public schools?
    Answer. Despite contract requirements to recruit and retain 
qualified staff at competitive wages, Job Corps center operators have 
struggled to attract qualified individuals with expertise to serve 
opportunity youth.
    Pay is a significant factor in Job Corps' struggle to recruit and 
retain quality teachers. Job Corps collects and analyzes data on 
contractor staff vacancies as well as the salaries operators report 
they are paying staff. During the last two calendar years, the data 
collected has consistently shown that teachers have one of the highest 
rates of vacancy amongst all labor categories under center operations 
contracts. At the same time, a 2024 review of salary data showed that 
91% (983) of the 1080 full-time academic positions were not paid wages 
comparable to the wages and benefits paid in the local area market for 
like occupations, as reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The 
average wage gap is $20,484. This pay gap is further exacerbated when 
taking into consideration that teachers in the Job Corps program work 
year-round due to the program's open enrollment, whereas teachers in 
the public school system have summer months off.
    Beginning in May 2017, the Department of Labor developed a contract 
term, H.6 Wage Comparability, that required center operations 
contractors to pay wages comparable to those in the local labor market 
for like occupations. The contract term also identified a minimum 
salary amount for Academic and Career Technical Training Teachers.
    Then, in 2020, the Department began converting Job Corps center 
operations contracts from cost reimbursement to fixed price type 
contracts. Within these contracts, the Department retained the contract 
term regarding wage comparability, but instead of identifying a minimum 
salary amount, the Department required contractors to determine the 
compensation level required to be competitive with the local labor 
market for each position at a center. The risk assumed by the center 
operator under the fixed price contract type has made it more likely 
that the operator will not be willing or able to keep up with rising 
labor market demands. This has especially been the case after the 
COVID-19 pandemic, as the labor market for teachers has become 
increasingly competitive. To try to combat the impact of insufficient 
staffing under the fixed price contracts, Job Corps instituted a 
vacancy ``takeback'' to recoup the value of a vacant position. But this 
takeback has not resulted in significant improvement in contractors' 
vacancy rates, especially for teaching positions.
    As a result, Job Corps has renewed focus on teacher pay by 
publishing Bureau of Labor Statistics salary data in its Request for 
Proposal, to provide the operator community with better data on what 
teachers in the center's locality are paid. The Department also made 
the contractors' proposed staff compensation plans a rated factor in 
the evaluation to select the contract awardee.
    The Department anticipates that as greater pressure is put on 
center operators to recruit and retain teachers by paying more 
competitive salaries the operators will propose higher priced 
contracts.
    Question. Please provide a cost estimate for bringing Job Corps 
teacher pay to parity with public school teachers.
    Answer. Job Corps collects and analyzes data on center staff 
vacancies as well as the salaries operators report they are paying 
staff. A 2024 review of salary data showed that 91% (983) of the 1080 
full-time academic positions were not paid wages comparable to the 
wages and benefits paid in the local area market for like occupations, 
as reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The average wage gap is 
$20,484.
    To remediate this issue at its source, DOL developed new 
solicitation language for fixed price Center Operations contracts, 
including standardized position descriptions for Job Corps center 
positions and a crosswalk to Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data and 
local wage comparisons to ensure vendors propose fair and competitive 
compensation when bidding on Center Operations contracts. Even with 
these mechanisms in place, DOL's Job Corps Acquisition Services 
continues to see vendor proposals with salaries below the comparable 
local wage and is actively addressing the concerns prior to contract 
award. As Job Corps Acquisition Services continues to hold contractors 
accountable for paying competitive wages, it anticipates that the price 
of contracts will increase.
    Question. The Department of Labor (DOL) has been charged along with 
the Department of Health & Human Services and the Department of the 
Treasury with promulgating rulemaking for the provider 
nondiscrimination provision that were in the No Surprises Act and the 
Affordable Care Act. The agency has taken the lead on this rulemaking 
but has missed multiple deadlines and is now more than 2 years past the 
statutory deadline set out in the No Surprises Act. Will the agency 
work to ensure that this rulemaking is done this calendar year?
    Answer. The Department remains committed to promulgating rulemaking 
to implement the provider nondiscrimination provision of section 
2706(a) of the Public Health Service Act (PHS Act), as added by the 
Affordable Care Act. This rulemaking is required by section 108 of the 
No Surprises Act, and the Department's current Unified Regulatory 
Agenda reflects that notice-and-comment rulemaking implementing the 
provider nondiscrimination provision is a priority in the near term.
    To that end, the Department is actively studying the issues 
relating to the provider nondiscrimination provision. The Department, 
along with the Departments of Health and Human Services and the 
Treasury (together, the Tri-Departments), held a listening session on 
January 7, 2022, to foster an exchange of information and views and 
afford interested individuals and organizations an opportunity to share 
their perspective on what should be included in forthcoming proposed 
regulations.\4\ In addition, on August 3, 2023, the Tri-Departments 
issued a notice of proposed rulemaking, Requirements Related to the 
Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act (the MHPAEA NPRM), in 
which they sought comments on ways that the Tri-Departments can enhance 
access to mental health and substance use disorder benefits through 
their implementation of section 2706(a) of the PHS Act.\5\ The 
Department is considering the comments received at the 2022 listening 
session and in response to the MHPAEA NPRM, as well as feedback from 
other conversations with interested individuals and organizations, as 
it prepares to undertake the required rulemaking.
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surprises-act/listening-session-regarding-provider-nondiscrimination-
under-section-2706a-of-the-phs-act.pdf.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
    Question. Recently, the President vetoed a bipartisan Congressional 
resolution overturning the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) rule 
redefining who is a joint employer. This rule from the NLRB will put 
the franchise model at risk.
    Small businesses are the heart of our economy and our communities, 
especially in West Virginia where more than 98% of our businesses are 
small businesses. One out of every three franchise owners say they 
wouldn't own a small business without the franchise business model.
    The last time the NLRB tried this, a study found that this policy 
led to 376,000 fewer jobs and $33.3 billion in lost output across the 
economy. While a Federal judge has current blocked this rule from 
taking effect, I am concerned what will happen if it does take effect.
    Acting Secretary, there continues to be bipartisan concern with 
what the NLRB is proposing. What does your Department plan to do to 
curb the job and economic output loss we experienced the last time a 
similar standard took effect?
    Answer. The Department of Labor defers to the National Labor 
Relations Board (NLRB) on this particular rulemaking, which is not 
under our jurisdiction. However, the Department is engaging in efforts 
to improve workers' access to good jobs, including through the Good 
Jobs Initiative, which is aimed at improving job quality throughout the 
country by providing critical information to workers, employers, and 
government entities as they seek to improve job quality and create 
access to good jobs. As part of this initiative, the Department has 
helped Federal agency partners incentivize job quality criteria in over 
$239.6 billion dollars of their competitive grant funding. The 
Department is also working with other Federal partners to issue 
guidance to further promote job quality, including through six 
Memorandums of Understanding with the Departments of Transportation, 
Commerce, Energy, and the Interior, as well as the General Services 
Administration and Environmental Protection Agency, and by establishing 
shared Good Jobs Principles with the Department of Commerce.
    Finally, the Department has ongoing commitments to provide 
technical assistance to states and organizations on best practices for 
workforce development. This includes intensive technical assistance 
academies, including the Good Jobs, Great Cities Academy, the Youth 
Systems Building Academy, and the Job Quality Academy to enhance equity 
and job quality throughout the workforce development system. These 
efforts, coupled with the Yes, WIOACan! Initiative, https://
ywc.workforcegps.org/, are spurring innovation and enabling state and 
local workforce areas to shape plans for building the skilled workforce 
necessary for implementing the historic Federal investments provided 
for under the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS and Science Act, 
and Inflation Reduction Act.
    Through the Good Jobs Initiative and our other important work, the 
Department remains committed to building a modern, inclusive 
workforce--ensuring workers have good jobs, opportunities for 
advancement, and seats at the table to have their voices heard.
    Question. Acting Secretary, as you know, your Department has been 
active in the retirement space in the past 2 years. In November 2022, 
you released a final rule that permits Employee Retirement Income 
Security Act (ERISA) retirement plan fiduciaries to use ESG factors 
when selecting investments and exercising shareholder rights. The rule 
replaced a previous rule that mandated fiduciary decisions be made 
solely with the intent of getting the best returns for Americans.
    And most recently--in fact less than two weeks ago--the Department 
published a final rule that, among other things, broadens the 
definition of a fiduciary for investment planning purposes, a 
definition that has been in place and effective since the 1970s.
    West Virginians are concerned with the actions that your Department 
is taking. They are concerned with the politicization of their 
retirement savings, and they are horrified about potentially losing 
access to their investment advisors. West Virginians and Americans 
alike need protection, not uncertainty, when it comes to their long-
term financial security, and they do not need the Federal government 
further involved in their retirement decisions.
    It is quite evident that there is bipartisan concern in Congress 
for the actions taken by your Department. Why did your team seek to 
enact monumental changes to the ERISA process via rulemaking rather 
than engaging with Congress and making changes through the legislative 
process?
    Answer. These recent rulemakings are well within the Department's 
regulatory authority. Each rule was preceded by a proposal that was 
published in the Federal Register with an invitation for public 
comment. The Department received and considered written comments and 
petitions (e.g., form letters) submitted during the open comment 
period. In each case, comments were received from a variety of 
interested parties, both in support of and in opposition to the 
proposal.
    The recent rulemakings also provide important protections for 
Americans' long-term financial security. The Retirement Security Rule: 
Definition of an Investment Advice Fiduciary rule will protect workers 
and retirees from conflicted investment advice that can erode their 
retirement savings. It was necessary to update the prior regulatory 
definition of an investment advice fiduciary which was adopted in 1975 
when the most common type of retirement plan was a defined benefit 
pension plan. These plans were primarily managed by professional money 
managers and funded by employers, who shouldered the risk of poor 
investment performance and shortfalls. Individual Retirement Accounts 
(IRAs) were not commonplace and 401(k)-type plans did not even exist. 
In the decades since, 401(k)-type plans and IRAs have become the most 
common way workers save for retirement. In these plans, individual 
retirement investors, rather than professional money managers, 
typically are responsible for making important investment decisions 
regarding their retirement savings, and they, rather than their 
employers or plan officials, shoulder the risk of loss. The 1975 rule 
had not kept up with these important changes in the marketplace.
    The final rule entitled Prudence and Loyalty in Selecting Plan 
Investments and Exercising Shareholder Rights adopted in November 2022 
(``Investment Duties Regulation'') reflects the core principle that the 
duties of prudence and loyalty require ERISA plan fiduciaries to focus 
on relevant risk-return factors and not subordinate the interests of 
participants and beneficiaries (such as by sacrificing investment 
returns or taking on additional investment risk) to objectives 
unrelated to the provision of benefits under the plan. We do not 
believe the Investment Duties Regulation reflected a monumental change 
to ERISA. However, it was an important rulemaking, as the previous rule 
was perceived by some as creating a ``chilling effect'' that would 
potentially discourage ERISA plan fiduciaries from considering risk-
return ESG-factors that other investors in the marketplace would take 
into account. As stated in the 2022 rule, ``[t]he Department has a 
longstanding position that ERISA fiduciaries may not sacrifice 
investment returns or assume greater investment risks as a means of 
promoting collateral social policy goals.'' Under the final rule, 
fiduciaries may consider collateral benefits as a tiebreaker, but only 
when choosing between otherwise prudent competing investment options, 
which equally serve the financial interests of the plan.
    Question. Did your Department consider the impacts that these rules 
will have on rural and minority communities nationwide, who are much 
more susceptible to drastic changes to the retirement and financial 
landscape?
    Answer. For each rulemaking, the Department conducted the required 
regulatory impact analysis, including satisfying the requirements of 
Executive Orders 12866 (as amended by EO 14094) and 13563 that direct 
agencies to assess all costs and benefits of available regulatory 
alternatives.
    In the case of the Retirement Security Rule, the Department 
reviewed recent regulatory and legislative actions concerning 
investment advice, market developments in industries providing 
investment advice, and research literature weighing in on investment 
advice. From this review, the Department determined there was 
compelling evidence that retirement investors, including those with 
small account balances or of modest means and inexpert investors, 
remain vulnerable to harm from potentially imprudent advice and 
conflicts of interest in the investment advice they receive. The 
Department concluded that retirement investors would benefit from more 
uniform protections from conflicted advice that would ensure prudent 
and loyal investment recommendations from financial advisers regardless 
of the type of investment vehicle used. The Department further 
concluded that by requiring advisers to accurately represent the nature 
of their relationship and advice, retirement investment advice markets 
will work more efficiently and result in innovations and cost-efficient 
delivery models to provide prudent and loyal advice to small investors.
    In the case of the Investment Duties Regulation, the Department 
determined that the concerns with the prior regulation, if left 
unaddressed, would have a negative impact on plans' financial 
performance as they avoid using climate change and other ESG 
considerations in investment analysis even when directly relevant to 
the financial merits of the investment. The literature examined by the 
Department generally showed that the consideration of ESG factors can 
be beneficial to investing in many circumstances. Thus, Department 
anticipated that the benefits of the final rule would be significant.
    Question. The Department of Labor's Schedule A Shortage Occupation 
list was designed to address workforce shortages by streamlining the 
process of hiring vetted international workers in high demand 
industries, like Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) and 
healthcare. Schedule A is an important tool that exempts workers in 
understaffed industries from bureaucratic visa hurdles and backlogs.
    Despite having the authority to revise the Schedule A list, the 
Department has not updated it to include more than two specific 
occupations--professional nurses and physical therapists--since 2005.
    While the Department has not updated the list in over 20 years, I 
was pleased to see the Request For Information (RFI) on how the 
Schedule A occupation list could be modernized to include STEM 
occupations for which there is a demonstrated labor shortage.
    Acting Secretary Su, what is the Department's timeline to provide 
an update on the Schedule A list?
    Answer. Consistent with President Biden's Executive Order on 
Artificial Intelligence, which directed the Secretary of Labor to ``to 
publish a RFI soliciting public input to identify AI and other STEM- 
related occupations, as well as additional occupations across the 
economy, for which there is an insufficient number of ready, willing, 
able, and qualified U.S. workers for purposes of updating Schedule A,'' 
the Department of Labor published a Request for Information (RFI) on 
December 21, 2023.
    The Department's Office of Foreign Labor Certification (OFLC) 
developed the RFI and published it for comment so that the public could 
provide input, including data, statistical metrics or models, studies, 
and other relevant information, on how the Department may establish a 
reliable, objective, and transparent methodology for revising Schedule 
A to include Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) and 
other non-STEM occupations that are experiencing labor shortages, 
consistent with requirements of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
    The comment period for the RFI closed on May 13, 2024. During the 
comment period, the Department received over 2,000 comments and is 
currently reviewing those comments to inform decisions regarding 
whether or how to improve Schedule A and ensure that its purpose in 
responding to national labor shortages is more effectively met. Once 
comment review has been completed during Fall 2024, the Department will 
consider how, and through which process, it may apply any data, 
statistical metrics, models, studies, or other information provided in 
the comments to develop a reliable, objective, and transparent 
methodology for amending Schedule A.
    Question. In January, the Department of Labor published a final 
rule on whether a worker may be considered an independent contractor, 
or an employee. The rule the Department previously put together on this 
was delayed, withdrawn, then ultimately reviewed and decided by the 
courts.
    Before issuing this rule, the Wage and Hour Division said it would 
hold two public forums to hear feedback directly from both employers 
and workers. However, the rule as written is largely similar to 
previous attempts, and does not appear as if the Department took 
different viewpoints into account.
    While I was glad to hear that the Department wanted to consult with 
both employers and workers on the rule, I am concerned about the degree 
their comments and opinions were taken to account when this rule was 
finalized.
    Acting Secretary Su, can you share how the Department incorporated 
feedback from a wide array of stakeholders, from small businesses to 
workers, in the final rule?
    Answer. In developing the Employee or Independent Contractor 
Classification Under the Fair Labor Standards Act final rule, WHD 
considered input provided by stakeholders prior to the development of 
its proposal and received approximately 55,400 comments during the 
public comment period that followed the proposal's issuance in October 
2022. The input and comments were provided by a diverse array of 
stakeholders, including employees, self-identified independent 
contractors, businesses, trade associations, labor unions, advocacy 
groups, law firms, members of Congress, state and local government 
officials, and other interested members of the public, and commenters 
expressed a wide variety of views on the merits of the Department's 
proposal. Several adjustments were made in the final rule after careful 
consideration of the comments received.
    For example, business stakeholders expressed concern about language 
in the proposed rule advising that control implemented by a business 
for the purpose of complying with legal obligations ``may be 
indicative'' of an employment relationship. 87 FR 62275. We heard from 
commenters that such guidance, if adopted as proposed, could be 
confusing or disruptive for businesses in highly regulated industries, 
such as real estate or financing, and could have negative unintended 
consequences in other industries, such as healthcare or transportation. 
89 FR 1691-92. Therefore, in the final rule, we revised the language to 
state that ``[a]ctions taken by the potential employer for the sole 
purpose of complying with a specific, applicable Federal, State, 
Tribal, or local law or regulation are not indicative of [an employment 
relationship].'' 89 FR 1743. (emphasis added)
    Question. Job Corps is an educational and workforce training 
program administered by the Department of Labor. The Job Corps program 
helps youth build the skills they need to succeed, complete their high 
school education and help students find employment after they leave. 
West Virginia is proud to be home to two Job Corps centers, one in 
Charleston and one in Harpers Ferry.
    Many Job Corps centers currently have openings, that would allow 
homeless youth to be able to receive housing, education and training 
for free. This important program has the capacity to serve our youth, 
and help prevent cycles of poverty and substance use disorder that many 
of our communities are facing.
    However, the application requirements can often be too burdensome 
for someone experiencing homelessness to be able to navigate.
    Acting Secretary Su, how is the Department working to expedite and 
streamline the enrollment of homeless youth into Job Corps?
    Answer. Ensuring unhoused youth and other underserved youth have 
expedited and streamlined Job Corps enrollment is an important 
Departmental priority. While the Job Corps program currently allows 
expedited enrollment for victims of natural or man-made disasters, 
consistent with eligibility requirements set forth in the Workforce 
Innovation and Opportunity Act (WIOA), the Office of Job Corps (OJC) is 
working to update its policy to allow for expedited enrollment for 
individuals experiencing homelessness and for victims of severe forms 
of trafficking. In addition, OJC has built relationships with 
colleagues in the Department of Health and Human Services' Family and 
Youth Services Bureau who administer the Runaway and Homeless Youth 
Program and in the Department of Education's McKinney-Vento program to 
encourage states and community-based providers to refer youth 
experiencing homelessness to Job Corps for enrollment.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Lindsey Graham
    Question. Processing times for Labor Certifications and Prevailing 
Wage Determinations are currently 18-20+ months, which were previously 
6-8 months. Why does this delay hinder American businesses seeking to 
utilize legal employment-based visa pathways?
    Answer. The adjudication times in the Permanent Labor Certification 
(PERM) program have increased due to higher application filings across 
foreign labor certification programs, which stretch resources in each 
program, as well as statutory and regulatory processing deadlines in 
high-demand temporary labor certification programs, which at times 
require directing resources away from PERM. The Department's mandate is 
to review each employer's request for temporary or permanent labor 
certification to ensure U.S. workers have first access to apply for 
these job opportunities, protect U.S. workers from adverse effect on 
their wages and working conditions, ensure employer compliance with 
program requirements, and protect the integrity of the program from bad 
actors.
    As noted in its fiscal year (FY) 2025 Budget Request, the 
Department's Employment and Training Administration (ETA) has 
experienced a dramatic rise in application volumes in recent years, 
with application levels in most foreign labor certification (FLC) 
programs more than doubling since FY 2010 and new prevailing wage and 
labor certification requirements established for the CW-1 visa program. 
U.S. employers requested more than 1.7 million worker positions through 
the FLC programs in FY 2023. While application levels have doubled 
since FY 2010, inflation-adjusted funding for Federal FLC case 
adjudications decreased 13 percent over the same time period.
    The Department is building on its technology in the Foreign Labor 
Application Gateway (FLAG) System to modernize the application process 
for permanent, temporary, and prevailing wage applications, enhance 
program integrity, and assist analysts with their review of 
applications. To reduce the risk of delays associated with increasing 
application volumes, ETA cross-trains existing staff--which increases 
the number of trained personnel available to adjudicate applications 
across programs--and authorizes overtime to meet processing demands 
during peak filing periods.
    Question. What more can the agency do to prioritize the current, 
functional technology of attestation-based PERM Processing?
    Answer. Although ETA's Office of Foreign Labor Certification (OFLC) 
administers a fully electronic application filing and processing system 
that helps mitigate the risk of delays and avoid unnecessary 
administrative costs, the Department's mandate is to review each 
employer's request for temporary or permanent labor certification to 
ensure U.S. workers have first access to apply for these job 
opportunities, protect U.S. workers from adverse effect on their wages 
and working conditions, ensure employer compliance with program 
requirements, and protect the integrity of the program. The analysis 
necessary to meet these statutory mandates cannot be accomplished by a 
process that is completely attestation-based.
    As noted in the Department's FY 2025 Budget Request, while 
application levels have more than doubled since FY 2010, inflation-
adjusted funding for Federal FLC case adjudications has decreased by 13 
percent over the same time period. Although using the latest 
technologies--as ETA has endeavored to do--has and will continue to 
create efficiencies in the administration of employment-based visa 
programs, the Department must strike a proper balance between 
consistent and reasonable processing times and ensuring employer 
compliance with program requirements.
    ETA, in collaboration with the Department's Office of the Chief 
Information Officer (OCIO), developed the Foreign Labor Application 
Gateway (FLAG). Applications for all FLC programs are now submitted 
electronically in FLAG; most recently, FLAG replaced the nearly 20-
year-old legacy PERM case management system as the means by which ETA 
processes permanent labor certification applications. The Department 
agrees that use of the most up-to-date technologies can create 
efficiencies in processing and reduce unnecessary administrative costs. 
Indeed, as the replacement of the PERM processing system reflects, over 
the years ETA has continually enhanced its technology, as resources 
have allowed, to strategically improve its applications processing 
capacity. However, the significant annual increases in workload over 
the past decade, when combined with inadequate funding, have far 
outpaced ETA's capacity to process applications, even with these 
technological improvements. Additionally, a process to review employer-
filed applications that is completely attestation-based would make it 
more difficult for the Department to monitor and enforce employer 
compliance with program requirements, protect the integrity of the 
program, and make the required statutory determinations regarding the 
availability of qualified U.S. workers for the employer's job 
opportunity and the lack of adverse effect on the wages and working 
conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith
    Question. I want to express my concern over the department's 
continued overreach in respect to regulations, which is par for the 
course when it comes to this administration. Many of my constituents 
tell me they're concerned about these overreaches. For instance, the 
proposed ``walk around'' rule that would allow a third-party entity to 
accompany Occupational Safety and Health Administration inspectors. A 
third-party entity could be from any organization, which leads to the 
potential for a conflict of interest and an inspector who would not be 
objective in their findings of whether a workplace is safe.
    Why does the department deem it necessary now to allow such 
activities during OSHA inspections when these inspections have happened 
time and time again without the need of a third party?
    Will you and your department commit to seriously reconsidering this 
rule and only allowing certified inspectors in businesses during these 
reviews?
    Answer. Congress, in Section 8(e) of the Occupational Safety and 
Health Act (``OSH Act''), granted both employers and employees the 
right to designate representatives to accompany inspectors during an 
OSHA inspection. OSHA has long recognized this right in its regulations 
and practices, which allow employers and employees to designate third 
parties as authorized walkaround representatives. See 89 Fed Reg. 
22558, 22559-60 (Apr. 1, 2024) (discussing 29 CFR 1903.8(c) and OSHA's 
guidance related to the regulation). However, in 2017, a district court 
found that although OSHA's longstanding practice was consistent with 
the OSH Act, with respect to employee representatives, it was not 
consistent with the OSHA regulation as then written implementing 
Section 8(e). See NFIB v. Dougherty, No. 3:16-CV- 2568-D, 2017 WL 
1194666 (N.D. Tex. Feb. 3, 2017). In response, OSHA revised its 
regulation to reflect its long-standing practice of who may be 
designated as an authorized employee representative. Additionally, as 
discussed in the preamble to the Walkaround rule, see 89 Fed. Reg. at 
22563-22572, OSHA determined, through the agency's own enforcement 
experience and based on numerous comments providing real-life examples, 
that third-party walkaround representatives will improve OSHA 
inspections and benefit employee safety and health.
    The notice of proposed rulemaking was published on August 30, 2023, 
and commenters had until November 13, 2023, to submit their comments. 
OSHA received 11,529 timely comments. These comments were both in favor 
of the rule and opposed to it, ranging from requests to withdraw the 
rule entirely to criticism that the rule does not go far enough to 
ensure that employees are able to select a representative of their 
choice for the walkaround inspection. OSHA considered all issues raised 
in these comments, such as the qualifications of compliance safety and 
health officers, and the scope of authorized third-party 
representatives, as detailed in the explanation of the final rule, see 
89 Fed. Reg. 22558 (Apr. 1, 2024). Ultimately, OSHA determined that the 
revised 1903.8(c) more clearly aligns with the language and purpose of 
section 8(e) of the OSH Act, 29 U.S.C. 657(e).
    Question. Another regulation that concerns me and my constituents 
is the recently-published overtime rule. This rule will ultimately 
require businesses to pay overtime wages to employees who earn less 
than $58,656. This is a one-size-fits-all approach that simply doesn't 
make sense for rural states where the cost of living is far lower. 
Additionally, this rule alters the executive, administrative, and 
professional exemption under the current law. Some businesses fear they 
may have to cut staff if changes are not made to this rule.
    Please walk us through the reasons for a nearly 65% increase in the 
minimum salary?
    Answer. The Fair Labor Standards Act (``FLSA'' or ``Act'') 
generally requires that covered employers pay employees at least the 
Federal minimum wage (currently $7.25 an hour) for all hours worked, 
and overtime pay of at least one and one-half times an employee's 
regular rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 in a workweek. 
However, section 13(a)(1) of the FLSA exempts bona fide executive, 
administrative, or professional (EAP) employees from both of these wage 
and hour protections. Pursuant to Congress' grant of rulemaking 
authority, since 1938 the Department has issued regulations (located at 
29 CFR part 541) which define and delimit the scope of the section 
13(a)(1) exemption.
    The Department's final rule, Defining and Delimiting the Exemptions 
for Executive, Administrative, Professional, Outside Sales, and 
Computer Employees, updates and revises the regulations issued under 
section 13(a)(1) of the FLSA implementing the exemption from minimum 
wage and overtime pay requirements for EAP employees. Specifically, the 
final rule increases certain earnings thresholds for the EAP exemption 
and establishes a mechanism that provides for the timely and efficient 
updating of these earnings thresholds to reflect current earnings data. 
Employees who earn below the new thresholds (or do not meet the other 
components of the tests for exemption), are entitled to the FLSA's 
minimum wage and overtime pay protections.
    On July 1, 2024, the standard salary level increased to $844 per 
week (the equivalent of an annual salary of $43,888), and on January 1, 
2025, it will increase to $1,128 per week ($58,656 per year). The July 
1st increase updated the existing salary threshold of $684 per week 
($35,568 per year) based on the same methodology used during the prior 
administration to set the threshold in the 2019 overtime rule update--
the 20th percentile of salaried earnings in the lowest-wage Census 
Region and/or in the retail industry nationally. The January 1, 2025 
increase applies the new methodology under the rule--the 35th 
percentile of weekly earnings of full-time salaried workers in the 
lowest-wage Census Region (currently the South). In addition, the rule 
will adjust the threshold for highly compensated employees. Starting 
July 1, 2027, salary thresholds will update every 3 years by applying 
up-to-date wage data to determine new salary levels.
    Question. Does the rule have exemptions for states that, on 
average, have a lower cost of living, and if not why is this not a 
consideration for states with lower cost of living?
    Answer. In the Defining and Delimiting the Exemptions for 
Executive, Administrative, Professional, Outside Sales, and Computer 
Employees final rule, the Department maintained a single standard 
salary level that applies to all employers nationwide. As the 
Department explained in the 2019 rule, ``[h]aving multiple salary 
levels would . . . introduce unnecessary complexity, particularly for 
employers and employees who operate or work across state lines.'' 84 FR 
51239; see 89 FR 32868 n.187. In the final rule, effective July 1, 
2024, the salary threshold increased to $844 per week (the equivalent 
of an annual salary of $43,888), based on the methodology used in the 
2019 overtime rule update. On January 1, 2025, the standard salary 
level will increase to $1,128 per week (the annual equivalent of 
$58,656), equal to the 35th percentile of weekly earnings of full-time 
salaried workers in the lowest-wage Census Region, which is currently 
the South.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Katie Britt
    Question. I have a number of concerns about DOL's new independent 
contractor rule, which is designed to significantly curtail the ability 
of millions of Americans around the country to work as independent 
contractors rather than as employees.
    I worry that the ramifications of this rule will be similar to 
those of the disastrous California Assembly Bill 5 (AB5), which you 
championed and implemented during your time as secretary for the 
California Labor and Workforce Development Agency. In addition to the 
detrimental impacts this rule will have on the private sector, I'm also 
concerned about the impact the rule could have on labor costs for the 
Federal Government itself--costs that will ultimately be paid by the 
American taxpayer.
    The Federal Government often enters into agreements with individual 
independent contractors. As an example, in issuing this rule, DOL 
didn't even address its potential impact on Federal agencies like the 
U.S. Postal Service (USPS), which relies on almost 8,000 contracted 
delivery services to reach millions of its delivery points. Under this 
rule, potentially thousands of those contractors would have to be 
classified as employees of USPS--costing taxpayers hundreds of millions 
of dollars per year.
    In promulgating this rule, why did DOL fail to address this issue 
with respect to agencies like USPS or discuss potential increases in 
Federal employment costs?
    Answer. The Employee or Independent Contractor Classification Under 
the Fair Labor Standards Act final rule revises the Department's 
guidance on how to analyze who is an employee or independent contractor 
under the Federal Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). Specifically, the 
final rule rescinds the 2021 Independent Contractor Rule that was 
published on January 7, 2021, and replaces it with guidance for how to 
analyze the employee or independent contractor classification that 
aligns with the FLSA as consistently interpreted for decades by the 
Supreme Court and U.S. Courts of Appeals.
    Unlike AB5 in California, the Department's final rule does not 
adopt an ``ABC'' test, which permits an independent contractor 
relationship only if all three factors in a three-factor test are 
satisfied. The Department's final rule instead relies on the long-
standing multifactor ``economic reality'' test used by courts to 
determine whether a worker is an employee or independent contractor 
under the FLSA. This test relies on the totality of the circumstances 
where no one factor is determinative.
    WHD considered input provided by stakeholders prior to the 
development of its proposal and received approximately 55,400 comments 
during the public comment period that followed the proposal's 
publication in October 2022. The input and comments were provided by a 
diverse array of stakeholders, including employees, self-identified 
independent contractors, businesses, trade associations, labor unions, 
advocacy groups, law firms, members of Congress, state and local 
government officials, and other interested members of the public. 
Commenters expressed a wide variety of views on the merits of the 
Department's proposal. Several changes were made in the final rule 
after careful consideration of the comments received, including 
comments from employers.
    As explained in the final rule, the Department does not expect 
widespread reclassification or job loss as a result of this rule 
because the Department is adopting guidance in this rule that is 
essentially identical to the standard it applied for decades prior to 
the 2021 IC Rule, and that is derived from the same analysis that 
courts have applied for decades and have been continuing to apply since 
the 2021 IC Rule was published. Workers who were properly classified as 
independent contractors before the 2021 IC Rule will likely continue to 
retain their status as independent contractors. Therefore, the 
Department does not expect that this rule will significantly impact 
Federal agencies.
    Question. How many other Federal agencies that rely on contracted 
services would be impacted by this rule?
    Answer. The Employee or Independent Contractor Classification Under 
the Fair Labor Standards Act final rule revises the Department's 
guidance on how to analyze who is an employee or independent contractor 
under the Federal FLSA. As explained in the final rule, the Department 
does not expect widespread reclassification or job loss as a result of 
this rule because the Department is adopting guidance in this rule that 
is essentially identical to the standard it applied for decades prior 
to the 2021 IC Rule, and that is derived from the same analysis that 
courts have applied for decades and have been continuing to apply since 
the 2021 IC Rule was published. Workers who were properly classified as 
independent contractors before the 2021 IC Rule will likely continue to 
retain their status as independent contractors. Therefore, the 
Department does not expect that this rule will significantly impact 
Federal agencies.
    Question. Does DOL have any estimates of what those increased 
Federal employment costs might be?
    Answer. The Department does not expect that the new rule, Employee 
or Independent Contractor Classification Under the Fair Labor Standards 
Act, will result in increased labor costs for the Federal government. 
As explained in the regulatory impact analysis included in the final 
rule, the Department does not expect that a significant number of 
independent contractors will be reclassified into FLSA-covered 
employees as a result of this rule because the Department is adopting 
guidance in this rule that is essentially identical to the standard it 
applied for decades prior to the 2021 IC Rule, and that is derived from 
the same analysis that courts have applied for decades and have been 
continuing to apply since the 2021 IC Rule was published.
    Question. The 2024 fiduciary rule attempts to regulate sales of 
annuities to retirement investors, which are already regulated by the 
states. The Department of Labor claims its fiduciary proposal is 
necessary to fill loopholes and gaps.
    Is there evidence that gaps and loopholes exist in the NAIC model 
regulation and that those gaps are being exploited to harm consumers?
    Answer. The Department's final Retirement Security Rule, which 
covers compensated retirement recommendations under conditions when it 
is reasonable to place trust and confidence in the advice, falls well 
within the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974's (ERISA) 
broad fiduciary definition, even if it is more protective of federally-
protected retirement investments than State insurance regulations. The 
U.S. Supreme Court has made it clear that ``the McCarran-Ferguson Act 
does not surrender regulation [of insurance products] exclusively to 
the States so as to preclude the application of ERISA to an insurer's 
actions . . . . . . . .'' John Hancock Mut. Life Ins. Co. v. Harris 
Trust & Sav. Bank, 510 U.S. 86, 98 (1993).
    The Regulatory Impact Analysis for the Retirement Security Rule 
notes that the market for fixed annuities is very large, with sales 
estimated at $286 billion in 2023. Commenters on the Department's 
proposed rule discussed significant conflicts of interest associated 
with large commissions on annuity sales, as well as abusive sales 
practices. Conflicted, imprudent, and disloyal advice with respect to 
such annuity sales can result in large investor losses.
    The Retirement Security Rule further provides a discussion of 
research that demonstrates the low levels of financial literacy of many 
advice recipients. Given the complexity of some annuity products, it is 
very easy for investors to purchase products that have very different 
risks and benefits than they thought they were purchasing, and that 
have considerably more downside than they expected. For all these 
reasons, one type of annuity--fixed indexed annuities--has been the 
subject of various regulatory alerts, warning investors of the dangers 
associated with the products. See, e.g., Securities and Exchange 
Commission Office of Investor Education and Advocacy Updated Investor 
Bulletin: Indexed Annuities (July 31, 2020) and Iowa Insurance 
Division, Bulletin 14-02 (September 15, 2014).
    The NAIC Model Regulation, updated in 2020, includes a gap under 
which it does not apply at all to transactions involving contracts used 
to fund an employee pension or welfare plan covered by ERISA. It also 
is not as protective as the Department's Retirement Security Rule and 
related prohibited transaction exemptions. The NAIC model's specific 
care, disclosure, conflict of interest, and documentation requirements 
do not expressly incorporate the ``best interest'' obligation not to 
put the producer's or insurer's interests before the customer's 
interests, even though compliance with these component obligations is 
treated as meeting the best interest standard. Instead, the core 
conduct standard of care includes a requirement to ``have a reasonable 
basis to believe the recommended option effectively addresses the 
consumer's financial situation, insurance needs, and financial 
objectives.'' Additionally, the obligation to comply with the ``best 
interest'' standard is limited to the individual producer, as opposed 
to the insurer responsible for supervising the producer.
    The Model Regulation's definition of ``material conflicts of 
interest'' that must be identified and avoided or reasonably managed 
and disclosed also excludes all ``cash compensation'' and ``non-cash 
compensation.'' As a result, the NAIC Model Regulation excludes ``any 
discount, concession, fee, service fee, commission, sales charge, loan, 
override, or cash benefit received by a producer in connection with the 
recommendation or sale of an annuity from an insurer, intermediary, or 
directly from the consumer,'' as well as ``any form of compensation 
that is not cash compensation'' despite their obvious potential to 
drive recommendations that favor the financial professional's own 
financial interests at the expense of the investor's interests.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Marco Rubio
    Question. I drafted report language that was included in the FY24 
appropriations legislation on the disclosure of apprenticeship data, 
engagement between the Departments of Labor and Education to address 
mismatches between worker skills and employer needs, and the steps that 
the Labor Department has taken or plans to take to study numerous 
issues in the labor market.
    Will you commit to comply with the report language's requirement 
that the department disclose apprenticeship data within 180 days?
    Answer. The Department is aware that Senate Report 118-84, which 
accompanied the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024, Public 
Law 118-47, directs the disclosure of apprenticeship data within 180 
days of the March 23, 2024, enactment of the Act, and is working to 
ensure compliance with this requirement. The Department is committed to 
and anticipates being able to meet the deadline.
    Question. Will you commit to complete the other two reporting 
requirements within 365 days after the legislation's enactment?
    Answer. Senate Report 118-84 also requested that the Department 
report to the Senate Committee on Appropriations on the extent to which 
it is engaging with the Department of Education to address mismatches 
between worker skills or their participation in the labor force and 
employer needs and the steps the Department has taken or plans to take 
to study the drivers of skills mismatches, workforce shortages, 
productivity fluctuations, turnover fluctuations, stagnant wages, and 
poor working conditions across occupations, industries, and the economy 
as a whole. In addition, Senate Report 118-84 requested that the 
Department assess the feasibility of supporting a pay-for-success 
initiative to increase and expand registered apprenticeships. The 
Department is aware of these requirements and is working to comply with 
them within the requested deadline.
    Question. Will you commit to update my office on the department's 
progress on all three requirements?
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. As some scholars have noted, we have a ``depression-
level'' crisis of non-work on hand. Nearly one in seven working-age men 
(age 25-54) is neither working nor looking for work. Depression levels 
of non-work for American men are leading to social breakdown all around 
us. In June 2016, the Obama Administration released a report titled 
``The Long-Term Decline in Prime-Age Male Labor Force Participation.''
    Are you concerned about this depression-level crisis of non-work?
    Answer. The Department of Labor closely follows data on workers and 
working age adults, including data on prime age men's labor force 
participation. The Department analyzes detailed data on civilian 
noninstitutional prime age men's and women's labor force participation 
rate (LFPR) following each month's data release from the Bureau of 
Labor Statistics to monitor and evaluate changes over time. As 
discussed below, prime age men's labor force participation has fully 
recovered from pandemic-related declines, but the Department recognizes 
that this progress has not reversed longstanding declines in LFPR.
    Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics on labor force 
participation among men ages 25 to 54--otherwise known as ``prime age'' 
working men--begins in 1948.\6\ Prime age men's LFPR, as measured on an 
annual basis, hit a series high of 97.4 percent twice: \7\ once in 1953 
and again in 1955.\8\ The rate has generally been declining ever since; 
for example, between 1955 and 1977 prime age men's LFPR fell or 
remained static every year, with a total cumulative decline of 3.2 
percentage points. The largest declines have occurred during 
recessionary periods and since 1970 the rate typically has not fully 
rebounded during subsequent economic recoveries (see Chart 1).
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    \6\ U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Population Survey, 
(Washington DC: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics).
    \7\ The series high for seasonally adjusted monthly data was 97.9% 
in September 1954. --, Current Population Survey, Series IDs: 
LNS11300061, January 1948-May 2024, Raw Data.
    \8\ --, Current Population Survey, Series ID: LNU01300061, January 
1948-May 2024, Raw Data.
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    The lowest recorded labor force participation rate for prime age 
men--whether measured annually or on a seasonally adjusted monthly 
basis--occurred in 2020. In April 2020 prime age men's LFPR hit a 
series low of 86.3 percent,\9\ the point at which it would be most 
accurate to say that ``nearly one in seven working-age men (age 25-54) 
is neither working nor looking for work.'' However, prime age men's 
LFPR increased by 0.9 percentage point the following month and measured 
87.9 percent on an annualized basis in 2020.\10\ Prime age men's LFPR 
has since remained significantly above the April 2020 low (see Chart 
2).
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    \9\  --, Current Population Survey, Series IDs: LNS11300061, 
January 1948-May 2024, Raw Data.
    \10\  -- Current Population Survey, Series ID: LNU01300061; 
LNS11300061, January-December 2020, Raw Data.
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    In 2023 the annual labor force participation rate for prime age men 
was 89.1 percent, which translates to nearly 1 in 9 prime age men not 
working or looking for work and is the same rate as 2019.\11\ This is 
the highest annual prime age men's LFPR since 2010 and is more than 1 
percentage point higher than would be predicted based on historical 
trends (see Chart 3). As measured on a seasonally adjusted monthly 
basis, prime age men's LFPR has averaged 89.2 percent thus far in 2024.
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    \11\ --, Current Population Survey, Series ID: LNU01300061, January 
2010-May 2024, Raw Data.
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    Question. Is the department or the administration continuing the 
investigation into the long-term decline in prime-age male labor force 
participation? If not, why?
    Answer. Yes, the Department of Labor is continuing to research 
changes in prime age labor force participation rates for men.
    Question. What do you think are the drivers of this decline?
    Answer. Our data analysis is ongoing, and full results are not yet 
available. We hope to publish findings before the end of the year.
    Question. What is the department doing to reverse this decline in 
prime-age male labor force participation?
    Answer. Over the last 3 years, prime age men's labor force 
participation has steadily increased as the economy recovered from the 
effects of the pandemic-induced recession (see Chart 2). As of May 
2024, prime age men's LFPR has increased by 2.9 percentage points 
relative to the series low in April 2020 (86.3 percent) and is at the 
same rate as in February 2020 (89.2 percent).\12\ This is in stark 
contrast to the effects of the Great Recession (December 2007 to June 
2009), when prime age men's LPFR continued to decline well after the 
recession ended (see Chart 1).
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    \12\ -- Current Population Survey, Series ID: LNS11300061, February 
2020-December 2020, Raw Data (Washington DC: U.S. Bureau of Labor 
Statistics).
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    Prior research suggests that this positive trend among prime age 
men is likely tied to the overall strength of the recovery. While 
economists continue to debate the degree of cyclicality--in other 
words, what portion of change in LFPR is attributable to changes in the 
business cycle compared to structural changes--there is a well-
documented relationship between labor market conditions and labor force 
participation.\13\ For example, there are strong correlations between 
prime age men's LFPR and wages at the bottom of the wage distribution 
and demand in traditionally male sectors like construction.\14\
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    \13\ Cajner, Tomaz , John Coglianese, and Joshua Montes. ``The 
Long-Lived Cyclicality of the Labor Force Participation Rate.'' Board 
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. (2021).
    \14\ ``The Long-Term Decline in Prime-Age Male Labor Force 
Participation.'' The White House. (June 2016).
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    The Department of Labor continues to work alongside our sister 
agencies across the Federal government to ensure that the historic 
investments currently being made in infrastructure and clean energy 
lead to high quality jobs that pay family-sustaining wages. The 
Department does not claim credit for all of the positive gains made 
across the economy, and it is not possible to fully capture all the 
direct and spillover effects of our ongoing work. But we can measure 
total private constant dollar (inflation-adjusted) average hourly 
earnings, which remain higher than pre-pandemic, with the largest gains 
among production and non-supervisory employees.\15\ And employment in 
the construction industry continues to set new records, with 8.2 
million jobs in May 2024, seasonally adjusted, including more than 7 
million men.\16\
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    \15\ U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Employment Statistics 
survey, Survey IDs: CES0500000013; CES0500000032, January 2020-May 
2024, Raw Data.
    \16\ --, Current Employment Statistics survey, Survey IDs: 
CES2000000001; CES2000000010, January 1939-May 2024, Raw Data.
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    Economists have also linked declining prime age men's LFPR to 
declining demand and wages for workers without a college degree, the 
increase in opioid-related substance use disorders, and the rising 
share of men who have previously been incarcerated or otherwise 
involved with the criminal justice system.\17\ The Good Jobs 
Initiative, led by the Department of Labor, is focused on providing 
critical information to workers, employers, and government as they work 
to improve job quality and create access to good jobs free from 
discrimination and harassment for all working people. This work 
incorporates an emphasis on underserved communities, which includes 
those without a college degree, people with or recovering from a 
substance use disorder, and justice-involved individuals.
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    \17\ Tuzeman, Didem, and Thao Tran. ``The uneven recovery in Prime-
Age labor force participation.'' Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, 
Economic Review 104.3 (2019): 21-42; Aliprantis, Dionissi, Kyle Fee, 
and Mark E. Schweitzer. ``Opioids and the labor market.'' Labour 
Economics 85 (2023): 102446; Abraham, Katharine G., and Melissa S. 
Kearney. ``Explaining the decline in the US employment-to-population 
ratio: A review of the evidence.'' Journal of Economic Literature 58.3 
(2020): 585-643.
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    The Department of Labor is proud to support all workers, job 
seekers, and retirees, including prime age men. The examples briefly 
outlined above should in no way be considered an exhaustive cataloging 
of our efforts. And because there is a connection between labor market 
activity, wages and working conditions and prime age men's labor force 
participation, all the efforts of the Department to advance 
opportunities and ensure worker health and safety can directly and 
indirectly contribute towards increasing LFPR.




Chart sources: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Current Population 
Survey, Series ID: LNS11300061, LNU01300061, Raw Data.

    Question. Employee ownership improves productivity, builds more 
wealth for workers, and can make businesses more resilient during 
economic downturns, among other benefits. However, employee-owned 
businesses remain a minority in our economy, so there is much to do to 
encourage employee ownership, close workers' capital gap, and help 
workers navigate the process.
    Do you agree with Employee Stock Ownership Plans' (ESOP) ability to 
improve productivity, build more wealth for workers, and make 
businesses more resilient?
    Answer. Worker ownership arrangements, including ESOPs, can help 
create pathways for employees to earn a fair share of the profits that 
their labor makes possible and can play a critical role in the Biden-
Harris administration's fight to give workers a voice on the job and a 
seat at the table. These types of arrangements can also help balance 
the distribution of power in America's workplaces and empower the 
workers who fuel their employers' ability to be successful day in, day 
out, while demonstrating to employers how worker ownership can be good 
for business, Through our administration of ERISA, we seek to ensure 
that these workers' benefits, when offered through an ESOP, which is an 
ERISA retirement benefit plan, are protected. The Department has 
created the Division of Employee Ownership within the Employee Benefits 
Administration's (EBSA) Office of Outreach, Education and Assistance, 
to explore further the role that worker ownership models, including 
ESOPs, can play to further these shared goals.
    Question. The Labor Department is required by the WORK Act to set 
up the Employee Ownership Initiative to promote employee ownership. 
Please describe the current state of your implementation and outreach.
    Answer. Section 346 of the SECURE 2.0 Act directed the Secretary of 
Labor to establish an Employee Ownership Initiative to promote employee 
ownership and worker democracy. Since the passage of the WORK Act 
(Worker Ownership, Readiness, and Knowledge Act), EBSA has engaged a 
variety of stakeholders to open lines of communication and determine 
how best to promote worker ownership, voice, and democracy. In 2023, 
the Department created the Division of Employee Ownership within EBSA's 
Office of Outreach, Education, and Assistance to implement and 
coordinate the Department's new responsibilities. In fiscal year (FY) 
2024, EBSA continued stakeholder engagement to determine community 
needs regarding outreach and education events and materials; recruited 
for the position of Chief, Division of Employee Ownership; and is in 
the process of developing a webpage on this topic. In FY 2025, EBSA 
will develop materials and expand its website to promote worker 
ownership. EBSA's efforts will provide education and training generally 
about different worker ownership options; educate and assist employee 
efforts to become business owners or otherwise participate in worker 
ownership models; encourage employers and employees to explore and 
assess the feasibility of transferring full or partial ownership to 
employees; and promote the possibility of starting new employee-owned 
businesses.
    Question. What could the department do to improve its outreach, and 
how could it better partner with SBA entrepreneurial development 
programs?
    Answer. Section 346 of the SECURE 2.0 Act directed the Secretary of 
Labor to establish an Employee Ownership Initiative to promote employee 
ownership and worker democracy. Since the passage of the WORK Act 
(Worker Ownership, Readiness, and Knowledge Act), EBSA engaged a 
variety of stakeholders to open lines of communication and determine 
how best to promote worker ownership, voice, and democracy. In 2023, 
the Department created the Division of Employee Ownership within EBSA's 
Office of Outreach, Education, and Assistance to implement and 
coordinate the Department's new responsibilities. In FY 2024, EBSA 
continued stakeholder engagement to determine community needs regarding 
outreach and education events and materials; recruited for position of 
Chief, Division of Employee Ownership; and is in the process of 
developing a webpage on the topic.
    In FY 2025, EBSA will develop educational materials based on 
stakeholder input and expand its website to promote worker ownership. 
EBSA will leverage its existing relationship with the Small Business 
Administration to identify opportunities to expand to their 
entrepreneurial development programs, such as the Small Business 
Development Centers, Women's Business Centers, the CareerOneStop 
Business Centers, and the Veterans Business Operations Center. EBSA's 
efforts will provide education and training generally about different 
worker ownership options; educate and assist employee efforts to become 
business owners or otherwise participate in worker ownership models; 
encourage employers and employees to explore and assess the feasibility 
of transferring full or partial ownership to employees; and promote the 
possibility of starting new employee-owned businesses.
    Question. When do you expect that the department will issue a 
proposed rule on the ``adequate consideration'' under Section 408(e) of 
the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974?
    Answer. Departmental staff currently is developing a proposed rule 
on ``adequate consideration'' that will be published in the Federal 
Register for public comment. In an effort to develop a proposal that is 
responsive to the need for guidance, staff began meetings with ESOP 
stakeholders (including ESOP sponsors, appraisers, and plan service 
providers) in Fall 2023 to learn about issues they believe the 
Department's rule should address. Staff is continuing to meet with 
stakeholders as it makes progress in drafting the proposal. The 
Department also will consult with the Secretary of the Treasury as part 
of the rulemaking process.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Baldwin. And now the subcommittee will stand in 
recess.
    [Whereupon, at 11:35 a.m., Thursday, May 9, the 
subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene subject to the call of 
the Chair.]


 
  DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND 
          RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                         THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., in room SD-124, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Tammy Baldwin (chairwomen) 
presiding.
    Present: Senators Baldwin, Murray, Durbin, Reed, Shaheen, 
Schatz, Capito, Moran, Kennedy, Hyde-Smith, Boozman, Britt and 
Collins.

                DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

                     National Institutes of Health

STATEMENT OF DR. MONICA M. BERTAGNOLLI, M.D., DIRECTOR
ACCOMPANIED BY:
        DR. W. KIMRYN RATHMELL, M.D., PH.D., M.M.H.C., DIRECTOR, 
            NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE
        DR. JEANNE MARRAZZO, M.D., M.P.H., DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE 
            OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES
        DR. NORA D. VOLKOW, M.D., DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON DRUG 
            ABUSE
        DR. RICHARD J. HODES, M.D., DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON 
            AGING
        DR. GARY H. GIBBONS, M.D., DIRECTOR, NATIONAL HEART, LUNG, AND 
            BLOOD INSTITUTE

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR TAMMY BALDWIN

    Senator Baldwin. The Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on 
Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related 
Agencies will please come to order. Good morning. Today is our 
fourth hearing on the Biden Administration's fiscal year 2025 
budget request. And I'm happy to welcome Dr. Bertagnolli to 
testify for the first time in front of this committee as the 
Director of the National Institutes for Health.
    As the granddaughter of an NIH-funded scientist myself, I 
understand what an important role biomedical research plays in 
treating and curing disease, bolstering our economic growth, 
and ensuring America is a global leader in innovation. I know 
my colleagues here today agree.
    I'm looking forward to working in a bipartisan manner again 
this year to develop a Labor HHS (Health and Human Services) 
bill that can pass the Senate, pass the House, and be signed 
into law by the President. That should be a bill that invests 
in NIH (National Institutes of Health) and the promise of 
finding lifesaving cures and treatments for deadly diseases.
    But I want to be clear, our ability to do that depends upon 
agreeing to adequate top line discretionary funding levels. 
Because of House Republicans insistence on cutting funding for 
domestic programs, last year's Labor HHS allocation was more 
than $2 billion less than in fiscal year 2023, the first such 
decrease in more than a decade.
    Even under those constraints, I was proud that we were able 
to fight back cuts to secure a $300 million increase for NIH in 
fiscal year 2024. But we should do better. Just like last year, 
more than a decade ago, Republicans insisted on cutting 
discretionary funding as the price of raising the debt limit.
    As a result, back in fiscal year 2011, through fiscal year 
2015, funding for the Labor HHS bill actually decreased in 
nominal terms. And as a result, NIH funding also decreased over 
that same period. Starting in fiscal year 2016, Congress 
finally decided overly restricted discretionary caps were 
stifling critical investments, including on NIH.
    So, Congress began modestly increasing domestic spending as 
a result. From 2016 to fiscal year 2023, funding for Labor HHS 
increased on average by $7.7 billion annually, a modest 3.3 
percent per year. But that allowed this subcommittee to 
increase funding for NIH on average by $2.3 billion annually 
over the same period of time.
    Unfortunately, Republicans are now, again, insisting on 
cutting funding for domestic programs, including in Labor HHS, 
and that's putting consistent meaningful increases for NIH in 
peril. I'm deeply concerned that that will put us on a path of 
stagnating funding for NIH, just like what happened last time, 
as I described. Almost every Senator here today will say that 
they strongly support NIH funding. That's easy. But if that's 
the case, as we have seen over the last decade, we need a 
workable top line that allows for a workable Labor HHS 
allocation. And I hope we can return to the bipartisan 
consensus of just a few years ago and agree to adequate funding 
for Labor HHS that allows meaningful, consistent increases for 
NIH.
    Alternatively, agreeing to the draconian cuts proposed by 
our House Republican colleagues, on the other side of the 
Capitol, it would be devastating for biomedical research. It 
would set back years of progress made towards curing disease 
and weaken America's competitiveness, particularly against 
China. And we just can't let that happen.
    So, today, I am happy to welcome Director Bertagnolli and 
her colleagues to our subcommittee, to discuss the budget 
request for NIH. Director Bertagnolli, this budget highlights 
the need for continued investments along a wide range of 
bipartisan priorities that speaks to the breadth of research 
that you oversee as director of the NIH.
    I'm pleased to see the support for biomedical research and 
innovation to develop better diagnostics, to improve treatment 
and precision care for patients, including targeted investments 
for research on women's health and in support of the goal to 
cut the cancer death rate by at least 50 percent over the next 
25 years.
    And at a time when we are seeing the spread of H5N1 bird 
flu across cattle herds and the detection of another human 
infection yesterday, it highlights the urgency of NIH work.
    I'm interested to hear from Dr. Marrazzo about the 
important work NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and 
Infectious Diseases) is funding to detect and monitor this 
virus so that we can limit its spread. The fiscal year 2025 
budget request, includes $49.8 billion in total resources for 
NIH, including ARPA-H (Advanced Research Projects Agency for 
Health) and Mandatory Cures Act funding, an increase of $1.25 
billion over fiscal year 2024.
    I want to point out, however, that most of this increase is 
to backfill Decreased Cures Act funding that falls under this 
jurisdiction of the HELP Committee. Declining Cures Act 
funding, combined with very difficult discretionary spending 
caps created a uniquely challenging situation for fiscal year 
2024 and will again in fiscal year 2025.
    Outside of those increases in discretionary spending for 
Cures Act programs, which I'm happy to see maintained, I'm 
pleased to see increases for cancer research, mental health 
research and neuroscience research. And during a time when 
women's health and reproductive rights are under attack in this 
country, I was pleased to see the budget proposes a $76 million 
increase for the Office of Research on Women's Health.
    But I was surprised to see that the budget does not call 
for any new resources for Alzheimer's disease research. I want 
to hear more about that and what impact that will have on the 
progress we have made in Alzheimer's disease research from Dr. 
Hodes.
    And I want to hear about how NIH is working to address our 
Nation's mental health and substance use disorder crises. 
Tragically, overdose deaths remain stubbornly high. In 2022, 
nearly 108,000 people died of an overdose in my State. There 
were 1,828 drug overdose deaths in 2022 surpassing the records 
set in 2021 of those deaths, 1,464 involved opioids. I'd like 
to hear from Dr. Volkow about how NIDA (National Institute on 
Drug Abuse) and NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health) are 
working together to bring an end to this crisis.
    I also want to hear about how NIH is investing in the next 
generation of researchers, particularly in light of new data 
that reveal a decline in the number of U.S. postdoctoral 
scholars at NIH, over the last 2 years. I want to know how you 
are supporting early-stage investigators, particularly women 
and those from diverse backgrounds.
    And finally, I want to hear about NIH's ongoing research on 
Long COVID.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Baldwin. It's been more than 3 years since Congress 
appropriated $1.2 billion for Long COVID research. And NIH has 
moved slowly to enroll patients and has yet to deliver 
treatments for this debilitating disease. Dr. Gibbons, I want 
to know how you plan to leverage the RECOVER Initiative to be 
more efficient and effective to finally move the needle for 
millions of Americans who continue to suffer.
    I look forward to your testimony and appreciate all of you 
being here today. And in a moment, I'll turn it over to Ranking 
Member Capito for her opening remarks. Following Senator 
Capito's opening statement, we will hear from Director 
Bertagnolli, and after that, Senators will each have 5 minutes 
for a round of questions. Senator Capito, Thank you.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO

    Senator Capito. Well, Thank you, Chair Baldwin. Thank all 
of you for being here. And Dr. Bertagnolli, it's good to see 
you. Thank you for being here today, but also congratulations 
on your fairly new role as NIH Director.
    I also want to thank you, as you know, for coming to West 
Virginia in March, to see firsthand all of the amazing things 
that we are doing at West Virginia University, including seeing 
the work that Dr. Rezai and his team are doing to combat 
Alzheimer's disease and addiction.
    As you witnessed, my home State of West Virginia is a rural 
State, where we have some of the highest rates of health 
challenges in the country, a partnership with NIH is critical 
for us to make improvements. Dr. Volkow, who has also visited 
West Virginia and Dr. Hodes, who says he's coming, we just got 
to get the date right. Dr. Rathmell and Dr. Marrazzo, it's 
wonderful, and Dr. Gibbons, thank you for being here today to 
discuss the many important health issues facing our Nation. 
Many of you, as I said, have visited or will visit, and I'm 
very grateful for that.
    This will be a challenging funding year as Chair Baldwin 
aligned that out. But for me, biomedical research at NIH is a 
priority for me and has been for these long bicameral 
bipartisan priorities as well.
    The budget proposes $49.8 billion in funding for NIH, 
including 21st Century Cures and ARPA-H. The budget also 
proposes an additional $1.5 billion in mandatory funding for 
the Cancer Moonshot. Last year, I was proud we were at least 
able to get an increase of $300 million in very tough headwinds 
in discretionary spending for NIH. NIH is not just great 
biomedical research institution, it's also a driver of economic 
growth, funding more than $92.89 billion in national economic 
activity across the Nation in 2023.
    My small State of West Virginia, NIH supports 759 jobs and 
$148 million in economic impact in 2023 alone. And this is in a 
State that we really don't see too--many don't see us as one of 
the areas for medical innovation, but we are proving the Nation 
wrong every day.
    The NIH impacts every American in some way, and I hope to, 
again, work in a bipartisan way to fund our joint priorities, 
such as finding cures and treatments for cancer, Parkinson's, 
ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis), Alzheimer's disease, and 
many other conditions that plague Americans.
    As I mentioned, Dr. Bertagnolli, I'll get it there--with a 
name like Capito that gets for mispronounced as Capto, half the 
time, you'd think I would be better at this. I'm trying. She 
joined me at WVU (West Virginia University) and witnessed the 
innovative research, talented researches, advancements that we 
are doing in West Virginia.
    Much of this has been made possible by the partnerships 
that have been fostered by NIH over the years. Researchers 
throughout our State are making significant contributions to 
biomedical research, in areas ranging from cancer to 
Alzheimer's disease, to substance use disorders.
    Unfortunately, West Virginia continues to rank above the 
national average, both in new cancer diagnoses and deaths. So, 
I'm pleased that the budget devotes increases to finding cures 
and treatments for cancer. As a lead sponsor of the Childhood 
Cancer STAR Act, I look forward to hearing about your 
priorities and advancements to combat cancer and grow our 
clinical trial networks, especially among our children.
    I will continue to prioritize fostering NIH collaboration 
with smaller and more rural States. Last year, we were able to 
provide a modest increase for the NIH IDeA (Institutional 
Development Award) Program. This program provides funding to 23 
States, including mine, that historically received very little 
Federal research funding.
    And I'm proud of the friendship and partnership with Dr. 
John--at NIH for his leadership. The IDeA Program and the other 
NIH funding has been instrumental for Marshall University, WVU 
and other institutions in the State, developing world class 
research in neuroscience, cancer, stroke, vision, and addiction 
science.
    Dr. Bertagnolli was able to hear about West Virginia 
Clinical and Translational Science Institutes new mobile unit, 
named Maverick, purchased thanks to an NIH grant. Dr. Sally 
Hodder and her team, will use this mobile unit to give 
individuals all over the State, we know access is the issue in 
rural States, the ability to participate in clinical trials for 
new treatments, and as a prime example of how NIH investments 
can directly affect people. I do want to take a moment and the 
Chair and I are on like-minded here, to express my 
disappointment that the proposed NIH budget does not devote new 
resources specifically for Alzheimer's disease research at NIH.
    I have personally seen close hand through both of my 
parents the devastating effects that Alzheimer's can have on 
the family, the patient, and the caregivers. Nearly 7 million 
Americans are currently living with Alzheimer's in our country. 
And the national cost of caring for those with Alzheimer's and 
other dementia is estimated to reach $360 billion this year, 
that's staggering. Alzheimer's and dementia related research 
must remain a national priority.
    I'd also like to see more attention devoted to substance 
abuse. The National Institute on Drug Abuse receives only a 
nominal increase in this budget. Dr. Volkow has visited my 
State, as I mentioned, and she's seen firsthand how West 
Virginia's in the crosshairs, and as we know, every State is in 
the crosshairs of opioid and addiction crisis.
    I would like to add my voice in agreement with the Chair on 
the recovery program for those with Long COVID. And I know we 
have many in the audience today.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Capito. I know we're dealing with a tough funding 
situation this year, but investments in biomedical research are 
so important for the future of our country.
    Before I close, I would like to address Dr. Bertagnolli 
again on something that we learned last week. I want to comment 
on something that is concerning. For years, the NIH has 
leadership has taken the stance that NIH funded Gain-of-
Function research was not happening with EcoHealth Alliance or 
the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.
    This appears to be false based on Dr. Tabak's response to a 
house committee last week, when asked if NIH funded Gain-of-
Function Research at Wuhan, Dr. Tabak answered, ``If you're 
speaking about the generic term, yes, we did''.
    Last year, HHS debarred the Wuhan Institute from receiving 
Federal grants for 10 years and just last week suspended all 
funding for EcoHealth Alliance and plans to debar them too. I 
think both of those should have probably been done much sooner.
    The NIH has a credibility problem here when it comes to 
Gain-of-Function research, and I strongly encourage you and Dr. 
Marrazzo in your new roles, to restore strength and research 
integrity and trust to the NIH in this area. Thank you very 
much. Look forward to your testimony.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Capito.
    And I will now introduce our witnesses. We have Dr. Monica 
Bertagnolli. She is the Director of the National Institutes of 
Health. We have Dr. Gary Gibbons. He is the Director of the 
National Heart Lung and Blood Institute. Dr. Richard Hodes is 
the Director of the National Institute on Aging. Dr. Jeanne 
Marrazzo is the Director of the National Institute of Allergy 
and Infectious Diseases. Dr. W. Kimryn Rathmell, is the 
Director of the National Cancer Institute. And Dr. Nora Volkow 
is the Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
    Thank you all for joining us today, and I look forward to 
hearing from all of you. We'll start with Director Bertagnolli. 
You may deliver your opening remarks.

          SUMMARY STATEMENT OF DR. MONICA M. BERTAGNOLLI, M.D.

    Dr. Bertagnolli. Chair Baldwin, Ranking Member Capito, and 
distinguished members of the committee. It is an honor to 
testify before you today concerning our fiscal year 2025 budget 
request. Let me start by sincerely thanking you for the funding 
you provided to NIH in fiscal year 2024, every State receives a 
share of NIH investment.
    Each year, NIH awards over 60,000 grants supporting more 
than 300,000 researchers at more than 2,500 institutions. We're 
proud to contribute to nationwide innovation in biomedical 
research, and to support the next generation of researchers who 
will meet the challenges of the future.
    NIH is guided by the principle that our work is not 
finished when we deliver scientific discoveries. Our work is 
finished when all people are living long and healthy lives. 
Decades of sustained investment in fundamental science are 
producing exciting results. How can the brain be reprogrammed 
to relieve anxiety or depression or craving for harmful 
substances?
    How can we replace a defective gene, thereby achieving 
durable remission of a debilitating disease? How do we enlist 
the specific function of the immune response to eliminate an 
advanced cancer? Our laboratories are delivering answers to 
these questions and many more, but we still have work to do.
    Families across the country are facing high rates of 
maternal mortality, struggling to care for those suffering from 
Alzheimer's disease and losing loved ones to substance use 
disorders.
    The 2025 President's budget requests support to address 
these critical needs, including the Cancer Moonshot, Brain 
Initiative, Women's Health Research Initiative, and funding to 
promote mental health, to overcome suffering from Long COVID 
and related ME/CFS (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue 
Syndrome) and to achieve longer and healthier lives for people 
with Down syndrome.
    Our track record demonstrates that, with continued funding 
and support, NIH researchers will deliver progress toward 
understanding and overcoming these challenges. I call your 
attention to two overarching concerns.
    First, many are underrepresented in medical research, 
especially people who are older, uninsured, belong to minority 
groups or live in rural locations. And second, for the wealth 
of data we now collect, we still lack comprehensive, diverse 
data from the clinical care environment that can power new 
artificial intelligence approaches to improve health.
    On behalf of the 27 institutes and centers of NIH, I 
present, two new programs to address these important needs. 
First, to ensure that research discoveries benefit all who need 
them, we must partner with people across the entire Nation 
reaching them even, for instance, if they live in a rural 
location far from a major academic medical center.
    To do this, we will enlist primary care clinicians on the 
front lines, to develop ways to overcome health challenges that 
matter to the communities they serve. Care providers practicing 
in underserved communities will be the main focus, supporting 
them so that their patients and they will contribute to 
knowledge generation and also benefit from research that allows 
people to receive better care.
    Next, consider how information technology is changing our 
world and how much more efficient and inclusive our research 
would be if we could better collect data to learn from 
everyone. Artificial intelligence and machine learning are 
revolutionizing what is possible for biomedical research and 
clinical care.
    But to realize the potential of new technologies, we need 
to invest more in a secure and sustainable data sharing 
infrastructure. By engaging government, industry, and academic 
partners, we will enable health innovation on a national scale, 
supporting secure researcher access to data along with advanced 
analytics and computational power.
    And we will incorporate what we have learned from projects 
such as all of us, to obtain people's permission to use their 
health data for research and deliver results back to them, 
inviting them to be our true partners in research.
    These efforts to reach people from all locations and walks 
of life will accelerate progress and ensure that no one is left 
out. When we ask people what they need and deliver results that 
benefit them, when we are transparent and clear and respect 
their wishes, we will earn trust.
    So, NIH supported discoveries have benefited all of us, and 
we are opposed to do so much more. Your continued support of 
our mission to help all people live longer and healthy lives is 
crucial.
    Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. I 
look forward to your questions.
    [The statement follows:]
             Prepared Statement of Monica Bertagnolli, M.D.
    Good morning, Chair Baldwin, Ranking Member Capito, and 
distinguished Members of the Subcommittee. I am Monica Bertagnolli, 
M.D., Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Thank you 
for the invitation to appear before you today. It is an honor to lead 
the NIH, guide the work of a remarkable research community and provide 
stewardship of public resources to enhance the lives of all Americans.
    I am grateful for the committee's long-standing support for NIH. 
NIH research has made significant contributions to improving the health 
of people in the United States and around the world. NIH's successes 
would not have been possible without the investment made by this 
committee. But we still have work to do. Families across the country 
are grappling with new cancer diagnoses, managing chronic diseases, or 
struggling with ill health from Long COVID, among many other 
challenges. To tackle the most persistent and complex problems, and to 
restore trust in science and the value it brings to society, we need to 
bring more members of the public into the research enterprise as our 
partners in discovery. By linking the laboratory to the clinic and to 
diversity of communities that encompass our country, and making sure 
that the information we collect is used safely and ethically to improve 
health for all people, we can find solutions to the health challenges 
facing our communities.
    The FY 2025 President's Budget requests $50.1 billion in 
discretionary and mandatory resources for NIH Institutes, Centers, and 
Offices. This funding will allow the NIH to continue our vital work to 
support the Administration's goal to prevent more than four million 
cancer deaths by 2047, end the HIV epidemic, and make targeted 
investments in mental health, women's health research and data science 
in an environment of tight discretionary spending caps.
                    a reinvigorated cancer moonshot
    In FY 2025, the President's Reignited Cancer Moonshot Initiative\1\ 
will support priority investments to advance the goal of cutting 
America's cancer death rate by 50 percent by 2047. Since it was 
established in 2016, the Beau Biden Cancer Moonshot has supported over 
300 research projects that pushed the boundaries of discovery and 
collaboration on behalf of cancer patients. The President's FY 2025 
Budget requests $716 million in discretionary funding.
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    In addition to discretionary resources, the budget also proposes to 
reauthorize the 21st Century Cures Act Cancer Moonshot program through 
FY 2026 and provide $2.9 billion in mandatory funding in FY 2025 and FY 
2026, $1.448 billion each year. In total, the budget proposes $2.164 
billion in combined discretionary and mandatory funding for FY 2025.
    To attain the goal of a 50 percent reduction in cancer mortality, 
funding for the Moonshot will continue to focus on substantially 
increasing the number and diversity of people who participate in 
National Cancer Institute-sponsored clinical trials to develop new 
prevention, diagnosis, and treatment approaches. Additionally, making 
faster progress is critical against cancers that have proven the most 
difficult to treat, such as pancreatic cancer, glioblastoma, as well as 
rare cancers and certain pediatric tumors. The FY 2025 request will 
build on research supported through the Moonshot that led to 
foundational advancements in immunotherapy, progress in childhood 
cancer research, and expanded use of proven strategies for cancer 
prevention and early detection to reduce cancer risk and disparities.
         revolutionizing mental health with precision medicine
    Scientific and clinical advances are rapidly advancing mental 
healthcare in the United States. Progress in basic science has led to 
new tools and resources that enable investigators to gain significant 
insight into the complex interactions between the brain, environment, 
and disease. This Budget increases funding for NIMH mental health 
initiatives, including $10 million to support behavioral health 
prevention implementation science, focusing on sustainable prevention 
and early intervention approaches. For example, NIMH aims to change the 
game for precision medicine in psychiatry with a groundbreaking new 
initiative. NIMH's Individually Measured Phenotypes to Advance 
Computational Translation in Mental Health (IMPACT-MH) seeks to harness 
machine learning and other data-driven approaches to integrate data 
from behavioral assessments with clinically available data, with the 
goal of generating more precise, objective clinical signatures and 
improving mental health outcomes by helping mental health providers and 
their patients make more informed decisions.
    Additionally, the President's Unity Agenda for mental health \2\ 
emphasizes strategies for addressing our national mental health crisis, 
including scalable approaches for prevention and early intervention. In 
alignment with this agenda, NIMH is focused on building and 
disseminating a robust evidence base for effective preventive and 
treatment interventions for mental and behavioral disorders, driving 
this investment in the FY 2025 Budget.
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              women's health research across the lifespan
    Advancing science for women's health requires a multipronged 
approach to advance a vision in which sex and/or gender influences are 
integrated into the biomedical research enterprise; every woman 
receives evidence-based disease prevention and treatment tailored to 
her own needs, circumstances, and goals; and women in science careers 
reach their full potential. This budget directs $153.9 million in FY 
2025 to the NIH Office of Research on Women's Health (ORWH). ORWH plans 
to use the increase to support a range of new and ongoing activities to 
enhance research into women's health issues, including increasing the 
number of hubs in the Maternal and Pediatric Precision in Therapeutics 
Centers of Excellence (MPRINT) initiative to increase the knowledge, 
tools, and expertise in maternal therapeutics available to the broader 
research, regulatory science, and drug development communities; 
expanding trial capacity for the Maternal-Fetal Medicine Unit Network 
to advance specific treatment approaches to leading drivers of maternal 
morbidity and mortality, and establishing clinical trials to test 
technologies developed through the RADx-Tech Maternal Health Challenge 
based on levels of readiness of the technology in rural and remote 
locations. The funds will also support new research into important 
topics such as the intersection of menopause and diabetes, ORWH will 
continue to support cross-NIH initiatives to promote sex and gender 
equity across all domains of research.
    NIH is also playing a major role in the new White House Initiative 
on Women's Health Research, led by First Lady Jill Biden, who has long 
championed women's health, and the White House Gender Policy Council. 
In announcing this Initiative, President Biden stated: ``I have always 
believed in the power of research to save lives and to ensure that 
Americans get the high- quality healthcare they need. To achieve 
scientific breakthroughs and strengthen our ability to prevent, detect, 
and treat diseases, we have to be bold. That's why today, we're 
establishing a new White House Initiative on Women's Health Research so 
that my Administration--from the National Institutes of Health to the 
Department of Defense--does everything we can to drive innovation in 
women's health and close research gaps.'' The goal is to fundamentally 
change how our government approaches and funds women's health research, 
to improve how it is conducted and to maximize the impact of our 
investments.
                               long covid
    For many, symptoms of COVID-19 persist long after the initial, 
acute phase of COVID-19 infection has ended. To address this growing 
public health concern, NIH's National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute 
(NHLBI), the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases 
(NIAID), and the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and 
Stroke (NINDS), along with several other NIH Institutes and the Office 
of the Director (OD), are leading NIH's Researching COVID to Enhance 
Recovery (RECOVER) initiative,\3\ a national research program to 
understand post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 (PASC), commonly known as 
Long COVID. In 2023, the NIH RECOVER initiative launched and opened 
enrollment for phase II clinical trials to evaluate at least four 
potential treatments for Long COVID, with additional clinical trials 
planned. These trials were informed by findings from earlier RECOVER 
research and focus on several of the symptoms described as most 
burdensome by people experiencing Long COVID. With its complementary 
research efforts, RECOVER has positioned NIH to design and conduct 
trials that have the potential to provide Long COVID patients who 
experience varying symptoms with relief sooner than any individual 
study can alone. The Administration has dedicated an additional $515 
million of COVID supplemental appropriations to RECOVER over the past 
year, on top of the original $1.15 billion, to support a second wave of 
clinical trial activity, long-term patient follow-up, and further 
pathobiology and mechanistic studies, as well as electronic health 
record research and overall research infrastructure.
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               data sharing across the research ecosystem
    The lifeblood of a research-driven Agency is its data, and for NIH, 
this includes data spanning fundamental research (basic science) 
generated in laboratories, large healthcare systems, and individual 
communities. The FY 2025 Budget includes $30 million for the National 
Library of Medicine to serve as a focal point to support data sharing 
and use for biomedical, behavioral, and social sciences research across 
the Nation. NIH is committed to harnessing the power of artificial 
intelligence and machine learning to maximize benefits from this wealth 
of data to advance research across diverse fields, diseases, and 
scientific communities. Looking ahead, advanced scientific methods, new 
data analytics, and technologies are unlocking possibilities to 
leverage data in ways that achieve faster and more definitive results. 
These approaches are only as good as the data used to train them. For 
research extending to the clinic, this requires data that are 
comprehensive and include all communities that we serve. For example, 
NIH's AIM-AHEAD program seeks to promote broad researcher participation 
and increase the variety of data in the AI/machine learning field. NIH 
has launched innovative and ambitious initiatives to propel the fusion 
of biomedicine and artificial intelligence and machine learning, such 
as the Bridge2AI program, which aims to generate new flagship data sets 
and best practices for machine learning analysis.
    The NIH Office of Data Science Strategy will work with NLM to 
increase capacity for data hosting, development of programs, and 
infrastructure to deliver minimal cost access to open-industry data 
standards, support for broad access to advanced analytics and 
computational power, and support for education and workforce 
development, including promoting participation by population groups not 
currently represented.
    These efforts are informed by the NIH Strategic Plan for Data 
Science \4\ and the NIH Policy for Data Management and Sharing \5\ 
which aim to promote responsible sharing and management of data 
collected from NIH-supported research. Implemented in January 2023, the 
data management and sharing policy reflects NIH's longstanding 
commitment to making the results of the research it supports with 
public funds available to the public by expecting that NIH-supported 
researchers maximize appropriate data sharing.
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                        strengthening biodefense
    The FY 2025 budget will support biodefense activities across HHS 
with mandatory funding of $20.0 billion, including $2.7 billion for NIH 
research and development of vaccines, diagnostics, and therapeutics 
against high-priority viral families, biosafety and biosecurity, and 
expanding laboratory capacity and clinical trial infrastructure. NIH 
will conduct and support preclinical and clinical research on vaccines 
and vaccine platforms, monoclonal antibodies, and novel adjuvants to 
provide protection against prototype or representative pathogens. It 
will support the development and clinical trials of additional 
therapeutic candidates, including host- tissue-directed therapies, and 
develop next-generation diagnostics to fill critical gaps, such as the 
need for affordable and accessible at-home tests that are as reliable 
as lab-based PCR tests.
                        buildings and facilities
    Safe, reliable infrastructure and facilities are essential to 
pursuit the cutting-edge research within the NIH intramural research 
program. The FY 2025 request of $350 million enables NIH to continue to 
address the Backlog of Maintenance and Repairs (BMAR) which was 
estimated at $3.8 billion as of the end of FY 2023. This request 
enables NIH to continue to implement recommendations from the National 
Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine 2019 report. In 
addition to the B&F appropriation, NIH has received support for 
critical infrastructure projects in recent years from targeted 
allocations from the Nonrecurring Expenses Fund (NEF). The FY 2025 
request includes a planned allocation of $120.6 million in NEF funding 
for three critical infrastructure projects to improve electrical power 
reliability and distribution systems on the Bethesda and Research 
Triangle Park campuses.
                               conclusion
    Turning discovery into health remains the central goal and mission 
of NIH. Improving health across the lifespan is essential to 
maintaining our country's greatest asset: its people. My life 
experiences have given me a powerful sense of the transformative 
potential of research, and of the critical importance of equity and 
access for all people to research and its benefits. One of my guiding 
principles is that our work is not finished when we deliver scientific 
discoveries; our work is finished only when all people are living long 
and healthy lives. We should celebrate our successes but remain humble 
in the face of human suffering and approach our work with great 
urgency. With your support, NIH looks forward to tackling timely public 
health challenges through rigorous and innovative science in FY 2025. 
My colleagues and I look forward to answering your questions.

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Dr. Bertagnolli. I am going to 
kick off a round of questions, and I want to begin with Dr. 
Marrazzo.

                               H5N1 VIRUS

    More than a decade ago, researchers at the University of 
Wisconsin Madison studying avian flu or H5N1, warned that only 
a few mutations in the virus would enable it to transmit to 
mammals. Today, H5N1 has infected 51 dairy cattle herds across 
nine States.
    Just yesterday, a second human case of H5N1 infection was 
detected in Michigan. Fortunately, as far as we know, the virus 
has not spread to my home State of Wisconsin, but it has caused 
concern for dairy farmers in my State and across the country. I 
recently convened a round table with Federal and State agency 
leaders and dairy stakeholders in Wisconsin on the current 
state of the disease and strategies for mitigating its impact 
on human and animal health.
    Scientists still don't know how the virus is spreading, or 
how long cows remain infectious and are roughly a hundred 
thousand farm workers are at the highest risk of infection.
    So, Dr. Marrazzo please tell me about NIAID's tracking of 
the spread of H5N1 or mutations in the virus and the work that 
you're doing to develop a vaccine against it.
    Dr. Marrazzo. Thank you for that question. Chair Baldwin, 
this is an incredibly important topic, and I do want to 
acknowledge the great work that our University of Wisconsin 
colleagues have done. In fact, they have been part of one of 
the networks that I want to tell you about.
    This is a pathogen that has been on our radar for a long 
time because when it does get into human hosts, we have seen a 
mortality of about 50 percent. So, this is something we really 
do not want to happen. What we have been doing for more than 10 
years is funding a group of investigators called the Centers 
for Excellence in Influenza Research and Response of which your 
university is one.
    And what they do is to collect and characterize this virus 
in wildlife, including migratory birds, which has been, of 
course, a very big source of these viruses. And that's 
important because, as you mentioned, you do need to track the 
mutations that are occurring in the wild so that you can be 
prepared to prepare the vaccines and antivirals that you're 
going to need if those viruses get into human hosts. So, really 
important network that has been doing incredible work, and 
that's been informing us even before this current outbreak.
    With regard to the current outbreak, the good news is that 
many of the viruses that they have been identifying are very 
similar, if not almost identical to the case in the humans, 
both humans that we know about. Although the sequencing hasn't 
been done on the human case, we heard about yesterday, but we 
assume it's going to be the same one.
    So, the good news is that we're really prepared to not only 
test the current vaccines that we have in the stockpile, but 
also to really develop specific vaccines. So, I think we're in 
a very good place. We're also working closely with some of the 
other agencies that are involved in this and continuing to 
develop monoclonal antibodies, vaccines, and antiviral drugs, 
all very much a part of our remit and very much engaged right 
now in doing this.

                            OVERDOSE DEATHS

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Dr. Volkow, while recent CDC 
(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) data shows a 
slight decrease from the prior year, overdose deaths, still 
claimed more than a hundred thousand lives for the third year 
in a row. These deaths are largely attributable to illicit 
fentanyl. And a NIDA study published last week shows the 
availability of illicit fentanyl continues to skyrocket. 115 
million illicit fentanyl pills were seized by law enforcement 
last year.
    We can and must do more to stop this epidemic and save 
lives. I know this is a bipartisan priority for members of this 
committee, including Senator Capito and myself. That's why we 
provided a $5 million increase for opioid research in the 
fiscal year 2024 Labor HHS bill. So, Dr. Volkow, 2 years ago, 
HHS launched a coordinated National Strategy to prevent 
overdoses. What can you tell us about the HEALing Community 
Study and what interventions it has found to be most effective 
at the local level?
    Dr. Volkow. Thanks very much for your question, and thanks 
for your interest on this very challenging issue posed by the 
overdose crisis. The HEALing Community Study aimed to actually 
empower the communities in order to give them the resources and 
the support necessary for them to respond to the local 
circumstances at which they find, because we see that the 
overdose crisis is very heterogeneous across the Nation, and we 
wanted to learn from this community.
    So, the HEALing Community Study empowers them, allowing 
them to get the data and to develop the interventions that are 
more likely to be beneficial. And as a result of that we have 
learned strategies that then can be deployed to other States, 
because this was done just in four States, and now actually are 
expanding access to data that allows the communities to see 
whether their interventions are making difference or not.
    And in the process, we've seen a significant expanded 
distribution of Naloxone and a significant expanded recruitment 
of people into medications for opioid use disorder and an 
improvement in the practices for treating patients with pain 
properly with opioids when they need it or using alternative 
treatments.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you.
    Senator Capito.

                      ULTRASOUND SLOWING ADDICTION

    Senator Capito. Yes. Thank you. I'll stick with you Dr. 
Volkow because I know that you've seen and well aware of some 
of the research that's going on with NIH at West Virginia 
University with Dr. Rezai on his use of ultrasound potentially 
slow addiction and Alzheimer's. And I want to talk to Dr. Hodes 
about that as well.
    What do you think that work--what kind of promise does that 
work have with ultrasound to decrease some kind of cravings? I 
know there's no one solution fits all here, and that's the 
difficult part of what you deal with every single day. So, what 
do you see in terms of, on the horizon for treatment?
    Dr. Volkow. I was just saying you're seeing me smiling 
because this is a perfect example that you see where science 
has transformed the way that we can tackle problems like in 
this case, addiction. And this is possible because of our 
understanding how the brain works and what are the circuits 
affected in addiction on the one side, and through brain 
technologies developed by brain to be able to manipulate them 
in a non-intensive way very selectively.
    And that's exactly what Dr. Rezai's is doing, using a low 
intensity focus ultrasound to basically restructure the way 
that the nucleus accumbens, which is the area of the brain 
involved with reward, actually gets disrupted by drugs. And 
what he has shown, even though it's very pilot data, is quite 
dramatic. He sees that dramatic reduction in craving and 
anxiety on people with severe substance use disorder.
    And this is an intervention that's not invasive that 
requires one or two intervention and appears to have at least 
an effect that lasts 1 week, if not 4 weeks. So, we are funding 
research to try to exploit it, how to maximize its utility so 
that others can take advantage of it.
    Senator Capito. Yes. It's quite remarkable to watch and 
I've watched it myself. Dr. Hodes is also doing the same, well, 
its brain and it's interesting how all of these things can kind 
of interconnect at some point. I know you've had a long history 
of studying Alzheimer's.

                         ALZHEIMER'S TREATMENT

    So, what do you think about this as a potential 
breakthrough in combination with what we're seeing with some of 
the pharmaceuticals and other available, I don't know that 
they're full treatments, but at least improvements in how to 
handle Alzheimer's?
    Dr. Hodes. Just as you're reflecting, and as Dr. Volkow 
noted it, it's gratifying when we see convergence of 
technologies and approaches. In this case, the progress in 
these past years in Alzheimer's treatment has been quite 
remarkable with the first FDA (Food and Drug Administration) 
approval of a drug Lecanemab for treatment of mild cognitive 
impairment early stage. What we've learned from the series of 
both successful and unsuccessful trials is that the effect is 
very strongly related to the degree of decrease in amyloid that 
could be accomplished.
    And what was shown in these studies in West Virginia was 
that the use of targeted ultrasound, in combination with an 
antibody to amyloid increase, the effect in decreasing amyloid 
in the brain, preliminary data, which now will be followed up 
with promise for making more effective in combination the 
treatments that we have available.

                     NCI DESIGNATED CANCER CENTERS

    Senator Capito. It couldn't be done without NIH and without 
the innovators that we have. I'd like to move over to the NCI 
(National Cancer Institute) designations and clinical trials, 
and I don't know who wants to answer this, Dr. Rathmell or Dr. 
Bertagnolli, but there are 14 States, including my State, that 
do not have an NCI designated Cancer center. You know, you've 
seen the statistics. Our cancer statistics in our State are 
very disappointing and devastating to us.
    It goes back to my rural area question. My understanding 
anecdotally through the professionals that I've talked with is 
that in order to get this designation, you have to have $10 
million of repeating research into a center before you can 
become NCI designated. In some rural States that don't have the 
resources and other things that becomes a very big hill to 
climb.
    I'm suggesting here that have you thought about some kind 
of a carve out, or some kind of a way for access for the more 
rural States to take into consideration the certain dynamics in 
a State like that as opposed to some of these bigger medical 
centers that are around the other 36 States that have it. So, I 
don't know who wants to take that.
    Dr. Rathmell. Okay. Senator Capito. Thank you for the 
question. So, first, the Cancer Centers is only one part of the 
portfolio. And we would love to have more cancer centers and so 
I know we're working with several that are emerging and working 
toward becoming the comprehensiveness.
    But in terms of reaching out to rural America in particular 
with delivering on the discoveries to get into the hands of 
patients, which is ultimately what we all want here. First, 
I'll say that the NCI has long had dedication to this, but I 
grew up in Iowa, right? You know, I understand very much what 
it means to have great distance from wherever you are to a 
major medical center. And then was at Vanderbilt where although 
we had Nashville the surrounding area had very similar issues.
    So, I'll tell you just a couple of things that we're doing 
to try to take that on. Beyond the cancer centers, we have 2200 
sites that do clinical trials around the Nation. Our National 
Clinical Trials Network is something unique in the world in 
terms of a broad network for clinical research. I think we have 
over a hundred clinical trials in West Virginia and we also 
have the National Community Oncology Research Program, which is 
another way of engaging community oncologists, because that's 
really where most patients get their care.
    But we know that it's not enough. And so, we've engaged a 
group to work across agencies and with community centers to 
look at our capacity building opportunities. Absolutely, it's a 
huge priority for us.
    Senator Capito [presiding.] Thank you, Senator Durbin.

                         NIH FUNDING INCREASES

    Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator Capito. And welcome to 
the NIH team. It was about 10 years ago when I met with Francis 
Collins at NIH, went through one of their spectacular tours, 
which I recommended all my colleagues, and I said to him, I can 
remember as a member of the house when Arlen Specter and Tom 
Harkin and a Congressman John Porter decided to double the 
budget of NIH. It seemed an impossible task. They achieved it, 
it made such a difference in that agency. And still, we feel 
the benefits today.
    And I asked Dr. Collins, what is it I can do or we can do 
now, doubling it is not realistic. What is realistic? He said, 
5 percent real growth each year. I'm going to pass out a chart 
here, which shows what happened after that. I came in and 
engaged Roy Blunt, who deserves credit again and again for his 
leadership on this, and my seatmate, who will be here shortly, 
Senator Murray, as well as Lamar Alexander.
    And our effort was to try to make sure that year after 
year, we continued to give 5 percent real growth to the 
National Institutes of Health. The chart will show you that we 
did a pretty good job of it. The slope that heads on up there, 
the blue slope, I would attribute to the team that came 
together, the red or orange part of it that shows is the 
deficit where we failed to reach the 5 percent real growth.
    I would just say two things. I commend to my colleagues the 
theory that this is National Security. This is National 
Defense. Ask the American people, if it's of their tax dollars, 
I'm not going to take a penny away from the Pentagon, but for 
God's sake, NIH is doing things which are going to save as many 
lives as anybody at work in the Pentagon.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Durbin. So, I encourage the creation of a new team. 
Senator Capito, you sound like from your questions, you're deep 
into this subject, and that's a good thing. So, I hope in the 
memory of Roy Blunt, that you'll join the effort as we move 
forward, and I invite others to be part of it. And again, we 
count on Senator Murray now as Chair of the full committee to 
move in that direction.

                     AMYOTROPHIC LATERAL SCLEROSIS

    Like my colleagues, I have some specific questions about 
specific maladies and illnesses which we've taken an interest 
in. This success story for the National Institutes of Health 
has had its ups and downs in given areas.
    Next week, 6,000 blue flags we placed on the National Mall, 
each flag bearing the name of a grandparent, spouse, parent, 
child, neighbor, or friend, battling ALS. One of those flags 
will bear the name of my friend and constituent Brian Wallach 
who was active in the White House under President Obama. His 
wife, Sandra Abrevaya, a true courageous individual used to 
work on my staff as a press secretary. And of course, they have 
two little daughters. They have been battling ALS for years 
with some limited success. And I had to use that word advisedly 
because I know that you hardly ever want to say that word 
around ALS.
    Dr. Collins called me at one-point years ago and said, 
we've come to the conclusion that we're heading in the wrong 
direction in our research in ALS. We're just not coming up with 
anything after years and years of effort. What is the status of 
efforts today in research on ALS?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Thank you so much, Senator Durbin. And let 
me just say right out that this is a tragic disease, and we are 
approaching it with a great sense of urgency that it deserves. 
What has happened, among other things, the act for ALS, which 
has been really great for us, is a collaboration between NIH 
researchers and the people affected by this terrible disease. 
They worked with us to set strategic priorities for tackling 
the disease.
    And these goals encompass diagnosis, treatment, management, 
prevention, and cure. We have to use that word because that is 
what our goal is. And we're in implementation now, let me give 
you specifics of implementation.
    There is a very active partnership with FDA's Critical Path 
initiative, expanded access program for drugs that are 
experimental, which is certainly critical for hope for these 
individuals. A new accelerating medicines partnership for ALS 
that is done under the foundation for the NIH will be announced 
imminently. And then also some practical but critical things, 
data sharing, prognosis in the genetics of ALS, biomarker 
development and more new trials.

                          BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER

    Senator Durbin. Just have a few seconds left. The blood 
brain barrier seems to be a topic which I hear about more and 
more in breakthroughs in medical research.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Durbin. Can you tell me in a few sentences what 
we're finding?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Well, we're finding that there are 
techniques this barrier prevents drugs from getting into the 
brain where they need to work. And we are finding that certain 
techniques are able to open that barrier so that drugs we need 
to get in can pass through. The details don't matter, but I can 
tell you this incredibly active area of research to bring more 
effective therapies to those affected by neurologic disease.
    Senator Durbin. My last comment, glioblastoma, is an 
example. We've lost John McCain, Ted Kennedy, and Bo Biden to 
glioblastoma, and I'm hoping even at Northwestern University, 
where there's some research breakthroughs that we can find a 
way to treat this malady in a more effective way. Thank you.
    Senator Capito. Senator Hyde Smith.

                     NCI DESIGNATED CANCER CENTERS

    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Madam Chairman, and Ranking 
Member. And I certainly appreciate our panel for being here 
today, and I'm going to direct my question to Dr. Rathmell. The 
University of Mississippi, my State, is the only academic 
medical center, much like Senator Capito, We are working to 
achieve our NCI designation, but we're not there yet. UMMC 
(University of Mississippi Medical Center) does a fantastic 
job. First lung transplant, first heart transplant in the 
entire country in the early sixties, and I'm really proud of 
that.

                     CLINICAL TRIALS INFRASTRUCTURE

    So, we're working hard to get there, but we're not there 
yet. And my question is, as we work to get there, we're talking 
about the trials and treatments and being able to participate 
in that. Can you share your thoughts on--although we don't have 
that designation yet, bringing these trials and treatments to 
Mississippi, and what that looks like and if we're eligible for 
that, and how would that change lives in Mississippi?
    Dr. Rathmell. Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Senator for the 
question. So, as I said before, we do have multiple resources 
that we use to bring clinical trials in the NCOR. The National 
Community Oncology Research Program, is actually very active in 
in your State. This group, I'll expand a little bit on the 
group that I mentioned before that we're convening.
    Actually, one of the co-chairs of the group comes from 
Baptist Healthcare Center in in Memphis. And so, his group 
really sees a lot of patients in the Mississippi area. That 
group is, as I said, working across Federal Agencies, VA Indian 
Health Service, CMS (Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services), 
American Cancer Society, where they are, you know, grassroots 
efforts to see how we can make clinical trials more accessible 
and more desired and more available.
    And then we're doing other things as well. Smaller centers 
can't necessarily have all of the staff that they need to run 
clinical trials. And so, we've piloted a virtual clinical 
trials office, which has been really heralded as a different 
opportunity to take the clinical research nurse in virtual 
space in into these places. I think that will democratize the 
ability to bring clinical trials a lot further, and that's part 
of what this group will be looking at.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you for that, I'm certainly going 
to ask for your commitment as well at UMMC to help us get 
there. But recently, your editorial that stressed the 
importance of clinical trials infrastructure to address and 
eliminate the inequities in the healthcare system. You 
highlighted that increasing community capacity to conduct 
cancer research is the key goal.
    And we sure hope that we're part of all of that. Will this 
plan involve getting granting mechanisms and what impact would 
flat or declining budgets have such on the initiative, to help 
us all get there?
    Dr. Rathmell. I'm so glad, we're clearly on the same page 
here. And we want to work with you to be able to do more of 
these things. The flat budget makes it tougher to make new 
granting initiatives. And we have to come up with new ways to 
be able to get these initiatives out there within the budget 
constraints that we have today.
    So, that's where part of the reinvigorated Cures Act would 
bolster our infrastructure for clinical trials. We are looking 
at a future where we think that clinical trials could be much 
more available to patients everywhere where they are. And that 
takes real infrastructure.

                              IDEA PROGRAM

    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you so much. I have a little time 
left. So, Dr. Bertagnolli, thank you for being here as well. 
The NIH provides support to Mississippi through the 
Institutional Develop Award, the IDeA Program. And we currently 
have 10 active IDeA Awards totaling over $17 million. And as 
you know, the IDeA Networks of Biomedical Research Excellence 
funds statewide biomedical research developments, which 
includes a network in Mississippi colleges and universities 
that are collaborating to increase this research infrastructure 
in my State.
    And this is made possible through the NIH commitment to 
that program and to expanding our national research 
capabilities. But I certainly encourage you to continue the NIH 
to commitment to the IDeA Program and the funding it provides 
to Mississippi and other States. How committed are you to 
ensuring that NIH allocates at least 1 percent of NIH funding 
to the IDeA Program under your leadership?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. So, Senator, I can't give a specific 
percent, but I can tell you this is truly among my highest 
priorities, to make sure that our research, which means our 
funding, is delivered, and distributed through communities such 
as those that are served by the IDeA Program. And even more so, 
not just the IDeA Program alone, ideas capacity building, and 
the ability to do research.
    What we are going to do now is bring the research grants 
in, the actual trials, the actual studies. So, I think States 
like yours have done a great job with this funding to develop 
the capacity. Now we're going to put that capacity to work, and 
that is going to be really exciting and I think of great 
benefit. Thank you.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
    Senator Baldwin [presiding.] Next I recognize the Chair of 
our full committee, Chair Murray.
    Senator Murray. Thank you very much, Chair Baldwin, and 
thank you to all of our witnesses. Thank you for the great work 
you do. You know, the fact of the matter is, NIH is fighting 
some of our Nation's most devastating adversaries: Cancer, 
Alzheimer's, Heart Disease, Opioid Addiction, Long COVID to say 
nothing of rare diseases or pandemic threats.
    The lifesaving work happening at NIH really shows that, as 
I've been reminding my colleagues, if we are serious about 
protecting our families here, then we need robust defense and 
non-defense spending.
    Unfortunately, the tough caps that are squeezing DOD are 
squeezing NIH. They're threatening to slow or derail 
breakthrough patients and families are desperately counting on 
today. That's why I have been very clear that we have to invest 
in non-defense and in defense, we need parity, and we need to 
make sure that investments like medical research, which saves 
countless lives, get their due as well.
    I'm proud to say we have a long history of bipartisan 
support for NIH. I've worked across the aisle many, many times 
to advance this important work with crucial funding increase. 
So, I hope we can all come together to support this work again, 
along with many of our other crucial domestic priorities.

                           SEXUAL HARASSMENT

    With that, Dr. Bertagnolli, I wanted to start with you 
because I have a really important question, I need to press you 
on. It's something I have been pressing on NIH for years about 
how the agency will make sure that Federal dollars are not 
supporting researchers who create a hostile work environment 
for colleagues and students.
    We have seen NIH fall short when it comes to holding 
grantees accountable, and complicit as institutions pass the 
harasser. We simply can't afford to have this agency's 
potential limited and its workers harmed by sexual harassment, 
discrimination, or bullying in the workplace. NIH is in a 
position to set a standard for a safe work environment in the 
biomedical research field. Under your leadership now, talk to 
us about what steps you are taking to make clear to 
institutions and your grantees that these behaviors will not be 
accepted and will result in the loss of Federal funding.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Thank you so much, Chair Murray. And first 
of all, abusive behavior of any type sexual abuse, harassing, 
bullying, any type, is absolutely not to be tolerated anywhere. 
And we really thank you for your advocacy and championing this 
really important issue. So, specifics. First of all, thank you 
for your support in giving us the authorities to require that 
institutions that we fund must report to us anyone who has been 
found to exhibit this behavior, has a real finding of this 
behavior. And when that happens, their funding is withdrawn. 
That is a solid and important step forward that you provided us 
with.
    However, we still have more work to do and we need your 
help. And so, I really look forward to working with you on 
that. And I'll just say it is still possible to pass the 
harasser, if someone has been accused but has not really had a 
finding. It is possible for them to then move and get a new job 
and for us not to know what the results have been.
    Let me tell you, we've been trying to combat this as well 
by having an anonymous tip line. And we do get and follow up on 
everything we get with anonymous tip lines, but we can work 
better to close this one remaining way----
    Senator Murray. Does it need a legislative solution or do 
you have the capacity?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. I would like to work with you on that 
because I am not sure I exactly know the answer. We've been 
exploring it and I think maybe we could have a discussion and 
figure out the best way. So, thank you.

                        WOMEN'S HEALTH RESEARCH

    Senator Murray. Okay. Let's follow up on that. I also 
wanted to talk about the fact that women are half the 
population, you all know that, yet we are not near where we 
need to be when it comes to Federal investment in Women's 
Health Research. I strongly support the administration's 
efforts to tackle this problem head on, including the executive 
order that President Biden signed in March to better prioritize 
investments in women's health across the Federal research 
portfolio.
    This is really a needed step to make sure women's health is 
better understood, so women can get quality healthcare at every 
stage. There are significant gaps in what we know about 
diseases and conditions that impact women, and a lack of 
treatments available even for things as universal as menopause. 
Talk to us about what NIH is doing to advance Women's Health 
Research, including for conditions like menopause, that are so 
common and yet so misunderstood and overlooked.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Yes, thank you. So, NIH has a long-time 
commitment to women's health in many ways. I'll just call your 
attention to the Framingham study. 75 years deep understanding 
of women's cardiovascular health. 50 percent women, for all of 
those 75 years, and we've gained a lot of knowledge over that, 
Women's Health Study Research across all of our institutes and 
centers address women's health.
    However, we absolutely can do more. The new initiative now 
gives us an opportunity to address current challenges that are 
really important to women. All you've already illustrated a 
few, maternal health, vulnerable time you know, mental health, 
postpartum depression, so many areas there that deserve more 
attention.
    Alzheimer's disease, which has an increased risk in women, 
mental health overall. The menopause transition now, normal 
time of life, but the change in hormones can be incredibly 
disruptive. And there's also long-term health effects, bone 
health, et cetera, that we still haven't really developed the 
treatments and approaches that we need. Although we've made 
some progress, we can do more.
    And then finally, what's our approach? We are taking 
instead of a bit-by-bit approach, we want to take a lifespan 
approach to women's health. A much more comprehensive and 
lifespan approach that coordinates across all our institutes 
and centers.
    Senator Murray. Well, I appreciate your attention to that 
and I think I speak on behalf of many of us that we really want 
to see what we can do to help make sure NIH is really focusing 
on it. I mentioned menopause, working with a number of women 
Senators on making sure we have the research and knowledge and 
coordinate what we're doing here and have a better focus. I 
think it was Senator Murkowski who said to us, if men went 
through menopause, we'd have an institute at NIH.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Murray. We're not asking for that. We're just 
asking to make sure we really focus on it. So, I appreciate 
your response. Thank you.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Vice Chair Collins.
    Senator Collins. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I'm 
going to forego an opening statement because I have so many 
questions that I want to ask. And they really fall in four 
areas, Alzheimer's disease, Long COVID, Tickborne Illnesses, 
and Diabetes.

                          ALZHEIMER'S RESEARCH

    So, Dr. Hodes, we've talked so much over the years and this 
committee has been very generous in funding Alzheimer's 
research in the last 5 years. And I would like to hear from 
you, have we made any progress as a result of that fund?
    Dr. Hodes. Yes. Well, Senator, thank you for the support 
we've had from Congress, which has been enormously important 
and has yielded important results. In the past year, for 
example, we saw FDA approval of the first drug Lecanemab, which 
targets the underlying process of Alzheimer's. In terms of 
prevention, another important area, we've seen studies 
reporting the effect of repairing hearing deficits with hearing 
aids in those at high risk for Alzheimer's producing something 
like a 50 percent decrease in cognitive decline in that 
population.
    Early studies, but multiple of them have pointed to the 
possible role of multivitamins in reducing cognitive decline, 
as well as targeted coaching to address the individual risk 
factors. Biomarkers, for the first time giving us an 
opportunity to test by imaging, but also by blood biomarkers. 
The various components biochemically, molecularly of what 
contributes to Alzheimer's.
    So, with all the successes, some of those of which I've 
summarized these past years, where we are now, is an 
understanding that Alzheimer's is a complex disease, meaning 
multiple pathways that can occur in individual and differ 
across individuals. But most importantly, we now have 
increasingly the ability to monitor this with biomarkers, with 
studies that will identify the best treatment for individuals, 
a growing number of unique targets now in early-stage clinical 
trials, which we see as our next generation, both drugs and 
lifestyle interventions too.
    So, I think we've had great advances, and the work is only 
partially there with the increasing understanding we have of 
disease, targeting diverse approaches in these future years, I 
think is enormously promising.
    Senator Collins. Thank you very much. I'm encouraged as 
well. And I think we're going to find out that Alzheimer's is a 
multifactorial disease and that lifestyle factors play a role, 
inflammation, I think we're going to find is important as well 
as the amyloid plaque that we focused on for so many years.

                          TICK BORNE ILLNESSES

    Dr. Marrazzo, HHS recently released the National Public 
Health Strategy, to prevent and control vector-borne diseases 
in people. This was required as part of the Kay Hagan Tick Act, 
which I authored with Senator Murray and others, and it builds 
on the NIH strategic plan for tick-borne illnesses.
    This is increasingly a problem in the State of Maine. 20 
years ago, we didn't have tickss in Maine that transmitted 
these kinds of diseases like Lyme disease. Increasingly, it's 
all over the State of Maine. They're all over the United 
States, and it creates real problems. Maine had a record high 
number of Lyme disease cases in 2023, and as ticks continue to 
expand, those cases are likely to increase.
    I was pleased to see the specific goal of reducing the 
number of Lyme disease cases by 25 percent by the year 2035. 
Could you briefly update us on the progress made in Lyme and 
Tickborne disease diagnostics, treatments, and potential 
vaccines? Because one problem is there's been a real dispute in 
the medical community on how to treat Lyme disease.
    Dr. Marrazzo. Senator Collins, as someone who did my 
residency in Connecticut and worked in old Lyme for a summer, 
where I think I saw every manifestation of Lyme disease. And 
recently coming from Alabama where we saw tons of tick-borne 
illness, your comments could not resonate with me more. It's a 
really challenging infection.
    And you highlight the fact that we still 25 years after, or 
however many, we still don't even have a really good diagnostic 
test that we can use for it. The serology is very frustrating, 
it leads to a lot of misinterpretation. So, let me just say 
that we released our strategic plan, as you know, for tick-
borne disease in 2019. And the support from this committee in 
this area has been critical in advances for both the basic, the 
diagnostic, and the vaccine and the treatment areas.
    So, in the basic area, one of the more exciting things is 
that we finished with both intramural and extramural scientists 
sequencing the Ixodes scapularis genome, which is very exciting 
because you can now go in and be more specific about genetic 
targets to try to develop some of these vaccines and figure out 
what are the antigenic components, what is stimulating this 
immune response? That probably frankly informs post-treatment 
syndrome, what was previously called chronic Lyme disease, but 
it's clearly a post-treatment, inflammatory syndrome.
    I'll jump ahead to that and just note that in 2021, I think 
we actually had a proposal out for work specifically on post-
treatment conditions and awarded seven big grants to look at 
that, to try to figure out is that pathogen really persisting 
in these areas and how can we best address it.
    With the diagnosis, we're really looking carefully at a 
number of new serology approaches, some point of care 
diagnostics, which would help people a lot in the field, 
especially since people come to emergency rooms in the summer 
with these infections all the time.
    And then the last thing I'll mention is the vaccines. We 
have a pretty successful vaccine for dogs, right? There is a 
canine vaccine. We are figuring out why that vaccine is 
actually working, and we're trying to learn from that analogy 
to develop and refine the approaches to human vaccines, which 
has been really challenging. I'll stop there. There's more but, 
I'll stop there.
    Senator Collins. Madam Chair, I would ask that I be able to 
submit my question on diabetes. I'm concerned about the cut 
that is in the budget and surprise to see that and on Long 
COVID as well. The RECOVER initiative's been very 
controversial. The Maine medical center, I'm proud to say is 
involved in the research, but I'll submit those to for the 
record.
    Senator Baldwin. Without objection and any opening 
statement, you wish to submit, at the end, I will indicate the 
timeline we need for questions for the record but thank you.
    Senator Schatz.
    Senator Schatz. Thank you, Chair. And thanks to all of you 
for your good work. I think I speak for most of us when we'd 
say this is one of our favorite hearings. It gives us the most 
hope about the future.

        NATIVE HAWAIIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HEALTH RESEARCH OFFICE

    Dr. Bertagnolli, I wanted to start with something close to 
home for me. With the support of this subcommittee, we secured 
$4 million last year to launch NIHs first ever native Hawaiian 
Pacific Islander Health Research office. Can you tell me--our 
worry is that this is going to take 17 months to stand up. So, 
can you reassure me that this thing is going to get stood up 
quickly? I know I'm in no position to hector you for it not 
already being up, but could you please reassure us that this is 
going to happen quickly?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Absolutely. And we have an office of 
research in Tribal Health, and this will fall right into a very 
active program to do much more to care and engage in research 
our indigenous peoples.

                         CHRONIC PAIN TREATMENT

    Senator Schatz. Great. Dr. Volkow, my STOP Pain Act was 
enacted 8 years ago, and since then, NIH has funded hundreds of 
millions of dollars in pain management research. What have we 
learned in the last several years about chronic pain treatment?
    Dr. Volkow. Yes, and thanks very much for the budget 
because it has actually energized the whole science 
infrastructure necessary to bring treatments that are effective 
for patients that are suffering from pain. Pain is devastated. 
It's very, very prevalent, but it has been neglected. And as a 
result of that, many people with pain, ended up getting drugs 
that were very dangerous, which of course contributed 
tremendously to the overdose crisis.
    So, thanks to the resources that have come, in part through 
the HEAL Initiative, we've been able to advance several 
clinical trials and to actually uncover new treatments for pain 
that are not addictive and that are effective, completely new 
molecular targets. The resources have also enabled us to 
understand how multi-pronged approaches can be used to manage 
pain on people with chronic pain conditions and two other areas 
that we have never been able to investigate.
    Senator Schatz. Two quick questions. What do you mean by 
multi-pronged.
    Dr. Volkow. Multi-Pronged that is not just based on a 
medication, that it actually engages behavioral interventions 
and cognitive interventions to help the person live with the 
pain and like meditation, for example.
    Senator Schatz. So, how much of this is sort of, I'm not 
sure I'm using the right terminology here. How much of this is 
jumping the fence and getting into CMS and the private 
healthcare sector? That's the question I have, is that it does 
seem like over the last 3 to 5 years a lot of important 
discoveries that are not so, they're not merely suggestive, 
like we think we know some things now about pain management, 
but it doesn't seem to me that in its application, in the 
healthcare context that they've woken up to this new treatment 
modality.
    Dr. Volkow. And that's why it's so important that in all of 
these projects, we work closely with CMS so that we can ask 
them the question, what is it necessary for us to show with the 
science that will lead to its reimbursement?
    So, we work very closely and for example, acupuncture is a 
perfect example of a partnership that's being developed, if it 
shows effectiveness, you want to be able to provide it to 
patients and be reimbursed as a physician.
    Senator Schatz. So, you're not overly concerned that these 
are just two separate agencies that only talk when necessary.
    Dr. Volkow. No, there is a very proactive way of sort of 
interest and motivation to commit ourselves to make 
collaborations across agencies. Because otherwise the science 
doesn't go into the patients, it stays in the journals or in 
the laboratory issues.

                          PSYCHEDELIC RESEARCH

    Senator Schatz. This is what I worry about. So, it's time 
for my annual question about psychedelic research.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Schatz. You know, I am cautiously optimistic about 
the revived research on psychedelics. And I think that part of 
what we have to do as a committee, but also as a Congress, is 
to draw distinctions around drug policy and a kind of move 
towards liberalization of drug policy for other reasons, for 
maybe libertarian reasons, for criminal justice reasons. And 
the question of whether or not some of these things that are 
used recreationally and sometimes abused are medicine. That is 
a separate conversation.
    I am personally for drug liberalization. I am also a son of 
a principal investigator, and I'm not prepared to call this 
medicine until all of you do the adequate research. So, where 
are we with psychedelic research and particularly, there's a 
bunch of accumulated data that seems to indicate that this 
needs supervision, and the application of the administration of 
the drug has to be combined with talk therapy and supervision. 
So, can you talk through how you see this?
    Dr. Volkow. You're absolutely correct. I mean, this is an 
area of tremendous excitement from the very pharmacology to 
actually understanding how to optimally use it on patients. 
Because the data is starting to translate in evidence that it 
could be beneficial, what has happened is that the clinicians 
are ahead of actually where the data is.
    So, it's being offered to a wide variety of patients 
without sufficient evidence, including the question that you 
ask, how do you optimally give it without producing risk and 
ensuring that you're having long-term effects? And that's where 
we need to understand how the context that which you are giving 
the psychedelic drug is going to influence your therapeutic 
response.
    It's crucial, but like anything else, what people get 
excited, they want to start of sort of believing a little bit 
in fairytales that it's magic. It's not a magic, it's very 
promising, but we need to do much more research. Thank you.
    Senator Schatz. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Moran.
    Alzheimer's Disease and Down Syndrome
    Senator Moran. Chairwoman, thank you very much.
    Dr. Hodes, I was very interested in your answer to Senator 
Collins question about the state of research regarding 
Alzheimer's. Let me ask an additional question. What's the 
latest in the research? What does the research show in regard 
to the connection between Alzheimer's and Down syndrome? Is 
that connection still viable and are we learning something 
about both at the same time?
    Dr. Hodes. Yes. It's a very important connection between 
two very important conditions that we need to address. And as 
many may know, individuals with Down syndrome likely related to 
the fact they have an extra copy of Chromosome 21, have as they 
age, and the good news is of course, that those living with 
Down syndrome now age into older adulthood, and a very high 
proportion developed Alzheimer's disease.
    And there's been an extremely active program designed to 
study this, a network of longitudinal studies looking at 
biomarkers to understand how disease progresses in Down 
syndrome and establish a network for clinical trials and, 
clinical trials are already in progress. For example, looking 
at the effect of a, so-called GM-CSF, it's a growth factor 
granulocyte, monocyte growth factor as therapy in those with 
Down syndrome, a preventive therapy as well as behavioral 
exercise intervention.
    So, we're working all the way from the basic science 
connecting the trisomy of Down syndrome and the relationship to 
the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's clinical trials infrastructure 
and active clinical trials.
    Senator Moran. What would be the outcome if there, if this 
connection is determined, what would change in the way that we 
would then address the issue of Down syndrome?
    Dr. Hodes. Well, certainly as Down syndrome relates to risk 
of Alzheimer's disease, this becomes similar to the rare but 
tragic early onset autosomal dominant Alzheimer's and other 
aspects where we know with high priority, high probability, 
that individuals will develop Alzheimer's. We know that years 
in advance and importantly now that we have biomarkers to track 
the presence of disease early, allows us to intervene early in 
these populations to prevent.

                USE OF EMERGING DATA METHODS IN RESEARCH

    Senator Moran. Thank you. My following questions really are 
about process, mostly data. This could be to Dr. Hodes or to 
you, Dr. Bertagnolli. With all the data that's now available, 
in many instances, but related to Alzheimer's, electronic 
health records, diagnostic, sex, clinical treatment results, 
insurance claims, medical images. Is there a way now that NIA 
(National Institute on Aging) can harness that data, uncover 
new insights and patterns, that we can't see through individual 
research projects? Maybe that's my question. Is that being 
done?
    Dr. Hodes. I can begin. And then certainly Dr. Bertagnolli 
can amplify upon it because you're absolutely right. Real world 
data of the kinds that you mentioned are critically important 
to our fully understanding in an inclusive way what goes on 
with the health of the population, the way to maximize it.
    There have been some very important real world data studies 
already carried out around Alzheimer's disease. And 
importantly, I would say that now the promise more than ever is 
for us to leverage these real-world data initiatives in the 
context of the large data initiatives, NIH wide, and Federal 
agency wide that I think Dr. Bertagnolli can comment upon.
    Senator Moran. That really was going to be my question, how 
do we expand that?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. I'll be quick. The data we use has got to 
be good enough that we can make life altering decisions based 
on it. Right now, our real-world data is not at of that level 
of accuracy, frankly. We are working really hard with FDA and 
with partners across all of HHS to convert our current ability 
to gather real world data into one where we really can harness 
it appropriately, use it with new analytics like artificial 
intelligence, to make life altering decisions. Right now, it 
tends to be more hypothesis generating than testing, and we're 
going to fix that.
    Senator Moran. And the issue is not sufficient data. It's 
determining how to harness that data to get it in a form that 
it's valuable.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. It's not necessarily efficient. It's the 
accuracy and the interoperability. You know, you got to compare 
apples to apples, not apples to oranges. And, you know, some 
issues with how the messy data is in the clinical environment 
that can really lead to mistakes if it's not used properly.
    Senator Moran. Thank you for using a scientific term that I 
understand, apples and oranges.
    [Laughter.]
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Thank you.

                             ARPA-H FUNDING

    Senator Moran. Finally, just maybe make a statement because 
of the shortage of time. I raised this in last years or 
previous years' hearings with Dr. Tabak. ARPA-H at one point in 
time the funding of ARPA-H was at the expense of more 
traditional and clinical research at NCI. I hope that that's 
not a pattern. I assume that you'll say that it depends on how 
much money you have, but I want to make certain that you are 
prioritizing NCI competitive cancer grants with fiscal year 
2025 funding, Dr. Bertagnolli.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. So, yes, absolutely we are, and our 
relationship with ARPA-H is that we have our team members meet 
routinely to review what's happening in our sister agency and 
make sure that there is no redundancy and, in any way, we can 
amplify, we do so.
    Senator Moran. That question was also directed to you, Dr. 
Rathmell.
    Dr. Rathmell. But that's what I would say as well.
    Senator Moran. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Kennedy.
    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Madam Chair. Dr. Bertagnolli, 
I'm directing these comments to you because, you of course are 
the director of the NIH, but I could also direct to each of 
each member of this distinguished panel. Let me state a few 
things that I think most fair-minded people would agree are 
facts.
    The National Institutes of Health are more to the point, 
the men and women there are one of the most extraordinary 
collections of minds in the world, maybe in all of human 
history. Your work, their work has saved billions of lives. 
Their work, your work, has improved the quality of life for 
billions of people, not just in America, but worldwide.
    Additional fact, the National Institutes of Health is part 
of, at least in America, but I think the world as well is part 
of the Institution of Public Health.
    Another fact in my judgment. As a result of the pandemic, 
the Institution of Public Health, at least in America, and I 
think in some respects throughout the world, has been 
tarnished. And that's dangerous. That's very dangerous for 
America, for the world, if we have another public health 
crisis, I don't care to partake in who's at fault for that. Or 
depending on upon your perspective, who receives the credit for 
that?
    I'd like to suggest that we do something about it and that 
we learn from it. And I think the NIH is the perfect group of 
men and women with the requisite credibility to do that.

                       GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH

    Now, here are my suggestions. Number one, the NIH needs to 
clear the air on Gain-of-Function research. I would gently 
suggest that you, I don't know, you could do it in a symposium. 
You could do it at an extended press conference, with some of 
your bright minds making presentations. Be technical, but also 
speak directly to the American people in a way they can 
understand.
    Tell them what gain-of-function research is. Tell them how 
it is funded. Tell them what research projects the American 
taxpayers are funding. Tell them what if any America's 
involvement was with the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan 
lab. Tell them the benefits of gain-of-function research. 
Explain to them the risks and be transparent. That needs to be 
done. And I think the NIH could lead it.

                          PANDEMIC PREPARATION

    Number two, at a different symposium or extended press 
conference, I would like to see the NIH take the lead in 
speaking to the world and to the American people about what we 
learned from the pandemic. What did we get right? What did we 
get wrong? Here's why we got it wrong. Here's why we got it 
right. Here's how we saved lives. Here's how we could have 
saved more lives if we'd known then what we know now.
    The American people, they don't read Aristotle every day, 
but they're too busy earning a living, but they get it, you 
know, hindsight is wonderful. I think if you would consider 
doing those two things, we could remove some of the tarnish on 
the institution of Public Health in America.
    And I'll conclude with this point. I know there are risks 
here, and I know some of you are thinking, you know, what 
planet did Kennedy just parachute in from? Why do I want to get 
mixed up in this political hot mess? Because it's important and 
it's not going away, folks. Neither one of those topics is 
going away. So, I would again gently suggest you put those 
extraordinary minds to work and consider doing those two 
things.
    [Applause.]
    Dr. Bertagnolli. So, on behalf of all of us, thank you very 
much.
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Britt.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman, Vice 
Chairwoman. Appreciate you holding this hearing today. And 
thank each and every one of you for appearing before this 
subcommittee. I want to begin by expressing my deep gratitude 
to you, Dr. Bertagnolli. Is that right? How do you say it 
properly? Not that I'm going to be able to do it, but yes. The 
Alabama in me----
    I'm going to say Madam Director, how about we do that? 
Thank you so much for visiting Alabama this year. I am deeply 
grateful for your time and letting you come and visit with the 
incredible men and women that work there. See the work that's 
being done, figuring out how we can partner to continue to 
change lives for the better. Really, really appreciate it. And 
then also, and here we're going to have another challenge with 
how to say your name. Is it, Marrazzo?

                           MATERNAL MORTALITY

    Dr. Marrazzo, we are very proud, obviously, you having been 
at UAB (University of Alabama at Birmingham) and to see you in 
this job. Now, you obviously know what a special place UAB is, 
the tremendous work that is done there and look forward to 
working with you in your new position.
    As you both know, in Alabama, over a third of our 67 
counties are classified as maternity care deserts. Areas 
without access to birthing facilities or maternity care 
providers. Last fall, three more Alabama hospitals announced 
closures of their labor and delivery departments, leaving both 
Shelby County and Monroe County without access to labor and 
delivery services.
    Additionally, Alabama has the highest maternal mortality 
rate in the Nation. I am of the mindset, as I believe probably 
the men and women sitting at that table are as well, this is a 
crisis we should be able to fix. If you look back to 2019, NIH 
launched the implementing a maternal health and pregnancy 
outcomes vision for everyone, the IMPROVE Initiative. Madam 
Director, could you speak to the importance of this program and 
why the NIH felt so strongly that standing up the IMPROVE 
initiative was necessary even without a sustained funding 
source?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Oh, absolutely. Thank you, Senator. You 
know, pregnancy related complications related in the deaths of 
about 1,200 women in 2021. We're still waiting to see the 
figures coming in for the last couple years, but it was just an 
enormous jump and with much higher rates in black women, which 
is also terrible.
    And so, we are really--IMPROVE is one of many efforts a 
really important one, but one of many we are looking to tackle 
this problem because it's multifactorial. It's mental health, 
so our institute mental health plays a role. Yes, it is also to 
a certain degree associated with substance use disorder as 
well, which we know, you know, all these things----
    Senator Britt. All of these things together intersect, and 
that's why it's so critically important. I just want to say 
thank you. Improving healthcare for women before, during, after 
pregnancy is truly vital. And I really am thankful for your 
leadership in this space, and I want you to know that I want to 
continue to partner.
    As you mentioned though, obviously, that this research 
funding is so important, or this research is so important, but 
really lacks a sustainable funding source. And so, last month I 
was proud to partner with Senator Laphonza Butler from 
California on the NIH IMPROVE Act, which would authorize in 
statute and provide consistent funding for this initiative.
    And so, I just want to thank all of you and the NIH staff 
for providing your offices to help us with technical assistance 
on this, to make sure that we could get this important bill out 
there.
    I am committed to continuing to work with Senator Butler to 
finding a way to getting this passed into law. As you 
mentioned, I mean, not only is Alabama the highest maternal 
mortality, it disproportionately affects the black community, 
and we need answers and we need them now. So, we're going to 
keep working on that to help with America's maternal mortality 
crisis.

                    IMPACT OF CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS

    And I want to say, I know I'm almost out of time. Two quick 
questions. When it comes to CRS (Continuing Resolutions), which 
is what we end up seeing happen here, unfortunately, and I want 
to commend Chairwoman Murray, I want to commend Vice Chair 
Collins. This committee did its work last year. We finished on 
July 27, all 12 bills out of committee. Unfortunately, we did 
not get those to the President's desk until 236 days later, 174 
days into the fiscal year. Can you speak very quickly about 
what a CR does to your agency? Oh, look at this. I get a 
reaction from the whole crowd. And can you just speak very 
quickly to that?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. I'm sure we're the same as all of 
government, anyone knows this. If you don't know how much you 
have to spend, it's very hard to plan and make all of the 
strategic decisions we need to make that don't come at the very 
end of the year. You know, we do the best we can and are 
certainly grateful for our funding, but it is challenging.
    Senator Britt. Madam Chairman, would you allow me to ask 
one more question?
    Senator Baldwin. Yes.

                            CLINICAL TRIALS

    Senator Britt. Thank you so much. Last question. In your 
visit to Alabama, you were able to see some of the research 
that we are doing there, you know, how our community, our 
diverse population in Alabama is really a great place for 
clinical trials. Could you just speak to that very quickly, as 
to why you feel like those things match up so well?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. So, it is absolutely critical that we 
serve our populations that are having many of these 
extraordinary needs that all intersect, that have to do with 
community in a very effective way with our clinical trials 
infrastructure.
    And so, that is why we are launching a new clinical trials 
network, devoted toward primary care, to do exactly that, to 
get into the communities. And doctors and clinicians on the 
front line, like the ones that we were able to visit in Alabama 
and in West Virginia and in other parts of the Nation. And 
we're excited about this. It will be all of NIH effort to work 
with these communities to get the research that they need.

                FUTURE OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WORKFORCE

    Senator Baldwin. Thank you. Senator Capito and I have a 
couple of remaining questions. So, we're going to start a 
second round, hopefully quickly. Dr. Bertagnolli, new data from 
the National Science Foundation reveals the largest drop in the 
number of postdoctoral scholars at academic institutions in 
over 40 years. Employment indicators suggests that life science 
PhDs are choosing to pursue careers in the industry instead.
    In order for America to out-innovate the rest of the world, 
we must invest in the next generation of researchers. I was 
proud to author the Next Generation Researchers Act with my 
colleague, Senator Collins, to improve opportunities for new 
and early-stage researchers. Since this bill was signed into 
law as part of the 21st Century Cures Act, NIH has increased 
funding for early-stage investigators by 63 percent. I was 
pleased to see the NIH recent plan to increase the minimum 
postdoctoral salary by 8 percent, raising it to $61,008 per 
year, and provide an additional childcare benefit.
    This is a major step in the right direction, but it falls 
short of the 70,000 minimum salary that your advisory committee 
recommended. So, Dr. Bertagnolli how is NIH tracking the impact 
of the stipend increase and why aren't Cost of Living 
Adjustments part of that equation?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. So, thank you for that. And, you know, I 
will say that this discussion, how do we better support our 
young, the next generation, the ones who are going to transform 
the world? That discussion happens every single week in our 
meetings across all of our NIH directors. We need to support 
them on so many levels.
    You hit briefly on an increase in stipend for postdocs that 
came out of a working group of the Advisory Committee to the 
director. Many other parts of that working group we are 
responding to. I think you also alluded to why haven't we gone 
farther, faster? We are left with a challenge of do we fund 
more researchers at a lower level, or do we fund smaller 
numbers at the full level that the committee asked us to do?
    You know, it was an economic calculation. We did. We have 
made a declaration that as funding allows, we will increase it 
to the full $70,000 a year. That was advised by the committee 
over the next, hopefully 3 years.
    And then finally you also talked about the early-stage 
investigator support. We do have special review criteria for 
early-stage investigators. They get a little of a less 
stringent funding rate. So, we really actively encourage--and 
we put out a challenge every year across all of our institutes 
and centers to achieve at least it used to be 1,100 new early-
stage investigators a year. Yet last year we made 1,600. And 
I'm optimistic we'll get that this year as well. Thank you.
    Long COVIDSenator Baldwin: Dr. Gibbons, an estimated 20 
million Americans continue to suffer with the long-term effects 
of COVID-19.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Baldwin. More than 3 years have passed since 
Congress appropriated $1.2 billion to the NIH for long COVID 
research. NIH has moved slowly to enroll patients in clinical 
trials, and there are still zero FDA approved treatments for 
Long COVID. Critics of the RECOVER Initiative, fear that it may 
not deliver any meaningful treatments.
    Getting this right has massive ramifications because, it 
will dictate how doctors across the country treat their 
patients and impact people's ability to access work 
accommodations, disability benefits, and more. So, Dr. Gibbons, 
why has the pace of research been so slow? And what can you 
tell us about the status of clinical trials for Long COVID?
    [Applause.]
    Dr. Gibbons. Well, thank you for that question, Senator. As 
you know Long COVID is a debilitating disorder inflicting great 
suffering and affects nearly every organ system of the body and 
involves, quite frankly, the mission areas of many of our 
institutes. And in that regard, let me turn first to our NIH 
director, Dr. Bertagnolli for addressing your question.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Yes. Dr. Gibbons, thank you. And Chair 
Baldwin. I am very pleased to speak on this as the NIH 
Director. Really to emphasize that this is now really 
considered as a full NIH activity. Long COVID and the similar 
condition, myalgic encephalomyelitis are terrible diseases.
    [Applause.]
    Dr. Bertagnolli. We must find better ways to treat and 
actually cure, make the--restore the lives of these people who 
are affected by this terrible. And, you know, the increase 
related from this new disease, COVID SARS-CoV-2 is just very 
tragic.
    So, what's already been accomplished, I'll be very brief 
there. What has been accomplished is to understand a new 
disease that dropped on us that we didn't understand. 15,000 
people with biospecimens, their electronic health record data, 
have allowed us to do the following. Five platform clinical 
trial structures focused on what people need us to fix. 
Autonomic dysfunction, cognitive, you know, the brain fog, the 
cognitive challenges, fatigue and exercise tolerance, sleep 
disturbances, and viral persistence.
    So, targeting those five key really disruptive areas. We 
now are--and fully admit, we are not where we want to be in 
terms of a rapid, nimble clinical trials enterprise that's 
testing promising treatments very quickly. That is our focus 
right now, moving forward, to do that.
    And finally, you know, we have launched eight trials. New 
ones are pending, but as I said, we have clinically 
characterized platforms. We are ready to go into action and 
accelerate approaching this great sense of urgency.
    And the last thing I want to say about Long COVID and ME/
CFS, we are so grateful for our partnership with the people 
that are affected by this. They have taught us over the last 2 
years what we needed to do. Now we just need to deliver for 
them.
    [Applause.]
    Senator Baldwin. I'm going to recognize Vice Chair Capito 
for one remaining question, and then I will recognize Senator 
Shaheen. Go ahead, Senator Capito.
    Senator Capito. Yes. Thank you, Dr. Gibbons. You were 
either having your best day or your worst day because you 
hadn't gotten a question yet.
    [Laughter.]

                   RESPIRATORY SUPPORT IN RURAL AREAS

    Senator Capito. I wanted to ask a question about an NIH 
study through your institute that found higher mortality rates 
for patients on respiratory support in rural intermediate care 
units. This goes to the heart of what I talked about earlier. 
Obviously, I have a large rural population. What advice would 
you give, or what do you think can come out of this study in 
terms of helping rural intermediate care facilities be able to 
change the results of this study?
    Dr. Gibbons. Oh, thank you, Senator. You bring out the 
important aspect of your earlier comment in which we recognize 
that rural America and our systems need to focus in on where 
the burden and suffering is the greatest. And clearly when it 
comes to intensive care units there's actually a lower 
proportion per capita in rural communities.
    And we know that it is a challenge where we are hoping 
that, and we're testing strategies, many of which involve 
telehealth, in which we can ensure that the care is at the 
level where we can improve those rates of recovery in the 
context of rural communities.
    For example, one of the other elements of that challenge 
involves chronic pulmonary disease in which we know that 
pulmonary rehabilitation can actually reduce hospitalization 
rates for those with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
    And we've tested that in rural settings and shown that it's 
effective in the context of where patients are in rural 
communities. Similarly, we have established cohort studies 
focused in on rural communities to understand the whole 
trajectory of the development of chronic lung disease and heart 
disease. Our RURAL initiative is in Kentucky, Alabama, 
Louisiana, and Mississippi. So, we really want to be where 
individuals are to understand their risks and improve their 
care, including the use of a mobile CT scan to further 
understand those things.
    Senator Capito. Good. I was just talking to one of my West 
Virginia University doctors about a mobile unit to look more at 
heart. I just want to thank all of you, this has been, it is 
always so informative and hopeful.
    And also, my last comment would be to you Dr. Bertagnolli. 
27 Institutes, that's a lot to manage. Not just physically 
manage, but there's so much interplay between what's going on, 
and as we look at a time of dollars shrinking or not, you know, 
we got to be more efficient. So, any efficiencies, and I'm not 
asking you to speak on this, any efficiencies that can be found 
across the 27 institutes, I think you're going to reap the 
results of that. And I know that's something that you and I 
talked about earlier, so thank you all very much. Appreciate 
it. Thank you. Senator Shaheen, I haven't voted yet----
    Senator Baldwin. Senator Shaheen, you're recognized.

                        SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS

    Senator Shaheen. I have voted. So, thank you for holding 
the hearing, and thank you all so much. Not just for being here 
today, but for the work that you do every day.
    I really want to focus my questions on the area of 
substance misuse and Dr. Volkow. You have been so helpful and 
willing to come to New Hampshire to see our challenges there. 
But while CDC data shows overdose deaths decreased somewhat 
last year, for the first time since 2018, we still lost 107,000 
Americans, 430 in New Hampshire.
    And overdose deaths continue to take a devastating toll on 
not just those affected, but their families, friends. Last year 
we discussed the important work of the HEAL Initiative, and can 
you give us an update on the development of medications for 
treating or vaccinating individuals against substance use 
disorders?
    Dr. Volkow. Thanks very much for that question. And I am 
actually keeping an eye on this problem that yes, there was a 3 
percent decrease in 2023, but if you look at certain areas, 
they are continued to increase the mortality and the numbers 
are unacceptable.
    So, there are many strategies. One of them is how is it 
that we can provide better treatment for people that otherwise 
will die because of an overdose? And vaccines, in monoclonal 
antibodies has been one of the targeted, we have actually 
completed a trial on phase two for the monoclonal antibody 
against methamphetamine.
    And I want to note that the number of people dying from 
methamphetamine has continued to increase. We are not seeing 
reductions, and we have no treatment whatsoever. Unfortunately, 
the outcome did not reach the one that was set up by the FDA, 
so the company is withdrawing, unfortunately.
    We are in the stages of starting clinical trials with 
fentanyl monoclonal antibody. And we are in the last pre-
clinical stages for a fentanyl vaccine. So, we are advancing, 
and the HEAL funding has enabled us to accelerate that 
research.
    There are many challenges, but we have multiple potential 
treatments, if the results come forward, we will have better 
interventions for reversing overdoses and better interventions, 
not just for treating opioid use disorder, but we have no 
medications for stimulant use disorder, which, as I said, the 
mortality has continued to increase. So, we need to continue to 
do this in order to be able to bring the treatments to the 
people.

                             DRUG OVERDOSES

    Senator Shaheen. I appreciate that. And we are certainly 
seeing that in New Hampshire that the number of cases of people 
overdosing on meth has gone up. And as you point out, there's 
no treatment. One of the challenges that we're seeing in New 
Hampshire, is that so much of our funding and programs have 
been tied to specific drugs. And we need more flexibility in 
what those programs can do to address other drugs other than 
just opioids. Would you agree with that, that it would be 
helpful to see more flexibility in funding?
    Dr. Volkow. A hundred percent. And in fact, what the 
science is telling us is that the problem that we have in 
overdoses is polysubstance use, is very rare to see someone 
dying with just one substance. It's also very rare to have a 
person that has a substance use disorder that only consumes one 
drug.
    So, the strategy now--and genetically, you inherit genes 
that make you vulnerable for addiction in general. So, the 
strategy now is how do we do interventions that are going to be 
beneficial for any type of addiction regardless? And certainly, 
in terms of how we deploy care and how we fund it, there should 
not be distinguishes, categorical distinguish these or the 
other because it's not the way that the cases are presenting 
themselves.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Madam Chair, I hope as we're 
looking at the funding in the budget, we can look at that issue 
and try and ensure that we're not directing funding just at one 
substance.

                                DIABETES

    My other question has to do with diabetes and Dr. 
Bertagnolli, I think I'm going to direct this to you. As I 
understand, the last year I asked Dr. Tabak about beta cell and 
stem cell derived islet replacement therapies, cutting edge 
technologies. We're seeing companies, a new company in New 
Hampshire that's working on that. It has tremendous potential 
for curing, and I say that directly, curing diabetes.
    I have a granddaughter with type 1, so we know very 
directly the challenges. Can you talk about where NIH is and 
plans to address investments in diabetes focused cell 
therapies?
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Absolutely. This is a very exciting area, 
there's great hope. We have three wins that's come out of the 
special diabetes program.
    The first is, the first drug that can delay the onset of 
type 1 diabetes severe symptoms by almost 3 years. So, that's a 
win. The second you've already referred to the cadaveric eyelet 
cell transplants, where we're finally starting to know how to 
protect these precious eyelets from destruction by the immune 
system. And you know, this is one of those things where you get 
first proof of concept, then you can really expand and do 
better.
    And then finally, there's also good technology and new 
artificial pancreas technology and a lot of--so much better 
testing insulin control. I just want to raise one issue though, 
since I think we both really care about this disease, we've 
still got a long way to go with underserved people, minorities, 
very young people. We we're getting some advances, we got to 
make sure everybody gets them.
    Senator Shaheen. I couldn't agree more with that. And 
Senator Collins and I co-chair the Diabetes Caucus, we have 
legislation. We're working with some of our other colleagues to 
not only cap the out-of-pocket cost of insulin until we get 
these cures, but also to cover uninsured who definitely are 
experiencing more of the negative effects of the disease. So, 
thank you very much for what you're doing.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Baldwin. Thank you, Senator Shaheen, thank you to 
Director Bertagnolli, and the entire panel we have today of 
Institute directors. We really appreciate your presence and 
your work.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    The record is going to stay open for 1 week for additional 
questions.
    [The following questions were not asked at the hearing, but 
were submitted to the Department for response subsequent to the 
hearing:]
         Questions Submitted to Dr. Monica M. Bertagnolli, M.D.
              Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Baldwin
Focal segmental glomerulosclerosis (FSGS)
    Question. What is the current status of NIH research and investment 
into FSGS?
    What actions is the NIH able to take to increase activities 
relating to FSGS?
    What resources would NIH need to better support research on FSGS?
    Answer. The National Institutes of Diabetes and Digestive and 
Kidney Diseases (NIDDK) supports a robust research program on focal 
segmental glomerulosclerosis (FSGS) and other rare kidney diseases. 
Projects to better understand their causes and improve their treatment 
include the NIDDK-led Nephrotic Syndrome Study Network (NEPTUNE) and 
Cure Glomerulonephropathy Consortium (CureGN), both long-term studies 
of rare glomerular kidney diseases, are playing key roles in advancing 
FSGS research. Currently, 850 children and adults with FSGS are 
participating in these research programs, which are exploring disease 
mechanisms, biomarkers, and candidate treatment targets. Importantly, 
seminal research at NIDDK identified a genetic kidney disease risk 
mediator, APOL1, and found that individuals with high-risk APOL1 
genotypes--primarily people of West African descent--have a greater 
risk for FSGS and kidney failure. Current research therefore seeks to 
clarify the role of APOL1 in aggravating outcome disparities in FSGS 
and other kidney diseases, and to identify better treatment and 
prevention approaches for people with these genetic variants. Other 
ongoing NIDDK-supported research also aims to better understand FSGS 
disease mechanisms and markers of risk for recurrence after kidney 
transplant, with the goal of improving therapy for all people with the 
disease.
    NIDDK is investing in the future of research on kidney diseases 
such as FSGS by expanding its support for training programs through a 
new initiative known as KUH FAMILY, which is coordinating training 
programs for junior researchers in kidney, urologic, and hematologic 
research (K, U, and H). To better engage trainees and retain them in 
the KUH research community, the program will provide opportunities for 
trainees to: (1) connect with other trainees across the nation via a 
national peer-to-peer network; and (2) access the growing number of 
novel, modernized career development resources generated by the KUH 
FAMILY and previous training programs. In addition, the KUH FAMILY will 
provide support to ongoing institutional training programs, coordinate 
annual meetings and large-scale program evaluations, and promote 
continuous improvement activities. The NIDDK continues to encourage new 
research proposals from FSGS investigators to increase our 
understanding and treatment of this disease and other rare kidney 
diseases.
All of Us Research Program and the BRAIN Initiative
    Question. Dr. Bertagnolli, back in March, I had a chance to sit 
down with you and Dr. Josh Denny to discuss how the All of Us Research 
Program's rich diverse dataset is now a vital resource for medical 
researchers across the whole of NIH and at other institutions around 
the country. All of Us has over 800,000 diverse Americans from all 50 
states and U.S. territories which provides researchers access to the 
world's largest and most diverse dataset of its kind. I'm very proud 
that institutions in my state of Wisconsin such as the Marshfield 
Clinic and the University of Wisconsin in Madison have played a 
critical part in advancing the program and enrolling many of these 
participants.
    Likewise, the BRAIN Initiative supports breakthrough research to 
revolutionize our understanding of the human brain and develop new ways 
to treat, cure, and even prevent brain disorders. The Cures Act 
provides dedicated funding to the All of Us and BRAIN Initiative 
programs in FY25, but due to annual fluctuations in Cures Act funding, 
they face a $280 million decrease. Combined with the $678 million 
decrease Cures Act programs saw in FY24, I'm concerned these program 
are facing dramatic cuts that could endanger much of the progress we've 
seen since these unique programs were launched. They could face an up 
to 71% cut in FY25 unless this mandatory funding is restored.
    What happens to programs like All of Us and the BRAIN Initiative in 
a scenario where 30-70% of their funding is cut? What is the impact on 
the scientific breakthroughs that we hoped would come from them?
    Answer. The All of Us Research Program is an ambitious, visionary 
effort to put the United States at the forefront of personalized 
medicine, which is possible because of the diversity of our nation. The 
scientific breakthroughs we are beginning to see with personalized 
medicine are only possible when the program has the funding to engage 
and enroll participants that have been traditionally underrepresented 
in biomedical research. But due to the $184 million reduction of Cures 
Act funding in FY 2024, All of Us had to reduce funding significantly 
for all awards for the Program,\1\ diminishing many program activities 
and functions and resulting in an estimated 600-800 staff layoffs 
across the nation-wide consortium of partners. For example, the All of 
Us Wisconsin consortium's budget was cut 83 percent, resulting in a 78 
percent reduction in staff; the University of Alabama in Birmingham's 
award was cut from $12 million to $3.2 million; and the Program's 
newest regional medical center, the Heartland Consortium led by the 
University of Kansas, saw their award reduced from $6 million to $2.8 
million. These partners all contribute to the Program's ability to 
engage with individuals in rural communities. Additionally, All of Us 
planned to support two to three new enrollment awards focused on 
enrolling children in response to a Research Opportunity Announcement 
OTA-22-006,\2\ but we cannot make those additional awards and will not 
launch pediatric enrollment this year.
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    If the Cures Innovation Fund decrease is not addressed in FY 2025, 
the Program's funding level will be cut by 71 percent in two fiscal 
years, resulting in additional layoffs estimated at 1,500 to 2,000 
across the nation-wide All of Us consortium of partners. Under that 
scenario, All of Us will prioritize the security of the biosamples and 
the data already provided by the 800,000+ existing participants (as of 
May 2024), requiring the Program to stop all in-person enrollment at 
physical locations nationwide. This effort will curb the recruitment of 
underrepresented populations, impacting the study's diversity, 
representativeness, and usefulness of the data, potentially skewing 
research findings and undermining efforts to understand health 
disparities. Research aimed at understanding the optimal treatments for 
chronic diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, and cancer could be 
severely delayed. Currently the data have been accessed by more than 
10,000 researchers asking questions across some of our most critical 
disease areas. Cuts this significantly will impede the development of 
personalized treatments that can significantly improve patient outcomes 
and reduce healthcare costs, reducing efforts to achieve equity in 
healthcare access and effectiveness across different demographic 
groups. More funding cuts in FY 2025 will limit genomic sequencing 
efforts, delaying breakthroughs in genetic therapies and understanding 
genetic predispositions to diseases. Furthermore, the comprehensive 
data from All of Us supports the identification of biomarkers for 
disease, which in turn aids in developing targeted therapies. With 
reduced funding, fewer resources will be available for biomarker 
discovery and validation, slowing the development of new, more 
effective drugs. Another critical area affected by funding cuts is the 
genetic return of individual results to participants, including 
information on an individual's risk for certain diseases and potential 
responses to commonly used drugs. With further funding cuts, fewer 
genetic findings will be returned to participants, limiting 
opportunities to impact the health of those who have already enrolled 
or would enroll in a longitudinal program like All of Us. Finally, this 
will cause the program to further delay enrollment of children, which 
can accelerate discoveries and deepen our knowledge regarding risk 
factors, effective preventions, and therapeutic approaches during 
childhood and throughout the lifespan.
    NIH's The BRAIN Initiative was launched in 2014 with the goal of 
revolutionizing our understanding of the human brain, the most complex 
organ in the body whose very complexity leaves us vulnerable to 
devastating diseases. To date, the BRAIN Initiative's intentional focus 
on technology and resource development has built and cultivated a rich 
ecosystem of inclusive, open, and ethical research that is rapidly 
advancing the field in three fundamentally important ways: (1) by 
bringing novel technology-driven treatments to the clinic today for 
devastating neurological, mental, and substance use disorders, (2) by 
laying the basic science foundation for future cures through the 
development of large scale experimental and data resources, and (3) by 
changing the culture of science, building highly effective multi-
disciplinary teams to solve problems outside the grasp of traditional 
disciplines. The BRAIN Initiative undergirds brain research relevant to 
the missions of all NIH Institutes, Centers, and Offices (ICs) and 
supports projects that would not be possible within a single Institute. 
Simply put, these are projects that would not be funded by any one IC 
at the scale, depth, and breadth required to yield the impact that 
BRAIN-funded projects are currently providing.
    Because of fluctuations in the Cures Act authorizations and the 
reduction of base appropriations to the BRAIN Initiative in FY 2023, 
the current $402 million FY 2024 appropriation for the BRAIN Initiative 
reflects a $278 million or 40 percent decrease relative to FY 2023's 
$680 million top-line appropriation. This has forced a 50 percent 
reduction in funds available to support new awards in FY 2024, creating 
numerous lost opportunities in innovation, discovery, and treatments 
for human brain disorders. If not resolved, a further $81 million 
reduction in FY 2025 Cures Act funds would lead to a devastating 
situation, in which the Initiative could fund only 20 percent of new 
awards in FY 2025 compared to previous years, leaving even more 
lifechanging research on the table. Together these year-over-year 
reductions will have a severe impact on the ability of the BRAIN 
Initiative to fulfill its mission and delay desperately needed 
treatments, cures and preventions to those living with brain disorders, 
such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, debilitating 
depression and other mental disorders, substance use disorder and more.
Women's health research
    Question. NIH currently spends 10 percent of its overall funding on 
women's health research. The President's Budget proposes a $76 million 
increase for the Office of Research on Women's Health, doubling its 
budget. What activities would these additional funds support?
    Answer. The mission of the NIH Office of Research on Women's Health 
(ORWH) is to: enhance research related to diseases, disorders, and 
conditions affecting women; help ensure that women are appropriately 
represented in biomedical research supported by the NIH; and improve 
the advancement of women in biomedical careers. In FY 2025, ORWH plans 
to use a requested budget increase to fund a range of new and ongoing 
activities to enhance research into women's health issues. The increase 
will also allow ORWH to support cross-NIH initiatives aligned with the 
newly issued 2024-2028 NIH-Wide Strategic Plan for Research on the 
Health of Women,\3\ key objectives highlighted below, to promote sex 
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  --Expand research to address additional critical contemporary women's 
        health issues such as high rates of hypertension and 
        cardiometabolic diseases and the greater prevalence of multiple 
        chronic diseases, including mental health and autoimmune 
        diseases, among others, in women.
  --Support Interdisciplinary and Innovative Women's Health Research to 
        catalyze and accelerate the translation of science advances to 
        practical benefits on midlife health of women, menopause, and 
        chronic diseases.
  --Support research aimed at reducing the prevalence and impact of 
        mental health disorders, substance use disorders, chronic 
        stress, cardiopulmonary diseases, common metabolic disorders 
        (e.g., diabetes), and cancer.
  --Support data science infrastructure and big data methods (e.g., 
        data standardization, access and sharing, artificial 
        intelligence) to accelerate collaboration, innovation, and 
        interdisciplinary advances for diagnosis, treatment, and 
        prevention of complex diseases that cannot be answered by one 
        discipline alone.
  --Expand existing training and mentoring support for programs by 
        increasing the cadre of women's health researchers and 
        connecting them to settings to meet the growing needs of 
        getting evidence-based women healthcare to people faster for 
        maternal and postpartum health through innovative approaches 
        and models, improving continuity of care, engaging communities, 
        developing the workforce, and increased partnerships.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
    Question. Dr. Bertagnolli, thank you for joining Senator Capito and 
I while visiting West Virginia University (WVU)'s Health Science Center 
and its leaders this past March to learn more about the unique health 
issues impacting West Virginians and to see firsthand how WVU is using 
NIH funding to support research that addresses health disparities 
across the state and within Appalachia. While WVU and other colleges 
and universities in the state are making inroads, West Virginia 
continues to rank high in incidences of disease, injury, and poor 
health behaviors--ranking first for cardiovascular disease, diabetes, 
obesity; deaths related to cancer and opioid overdose; and with the 
second lowest life expectancy and fourth highest infant mortality.
    What can NIH do to help expand the medical research footprint in 
rural states like West Virginia so we can tackle high disease burdens 
and low life expectancy?
    Answer. The National Institute of General Medical Sciences (NIGMS), 
through the Congressionally mandated Institutional Development Award 
(IDeA) program, supports research capacity building in states and 
jurisdictions that historically have had low levels of NIH funding, 
including many rural states. In particular, the IDeA Clinical and 
Translational Research Networks (CTR-N) program funds statewide 
networks that build capacity for clinical and translational research in 
IDeA states, with a focus on health issues relevant to each state.\4\ 
The West Virginia Clinical and Translational Science Institute (WVCTSI) 
is one example of a successful CTR-N that has established a highly 
collaborative, statewide research infrastructure to address the 
substantial health disparities in West Virginia such as addiction and 
resulting emerging epidemics (such as hepatitis C), cancer, 
cardiovascular disease, and chronic lung disease. Since FY 2020, the 
program has required CTR-Ns to work with community clinics and primary 
care physicians affiliated with Practice-Based Research Networks (PBRN) 
in their state(s) to better engage patients throughout the state, 
including those in more rural areas. WVCTSI has expanded its PBRN 22 
percent over the past year to include 131 clinics across the state.
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  --One difficulty with engaging rural clinics in clinical and 
        translational research is access to technology that would 
        facilitate local clinical trial participation. To address this 
        issue, NIGMS has been funding Supplements to Advance the Use of 
        Electronic Health Records for Research. Many CTR-Ns, including 
        WVCTSI, have used this funding to upgrade software at rural 
        community clinics to help their patients become ``findable'' 
        for clinical research participation. In addition, with support 
        from NIGMS funding, WVCTSI is set to launch a mobile clinical 
        trials unit to expand clinical trial participation in rural 
        communities by taking the research to the people.
  --Another challenge for clinical research in IDeA states lies in the 
        training and resources to expand clinical trial availability. 
        NIGMS funded the IDeA States Consortium for Clinical Research 
        (ISCORE), a partnership between nine CTR-Ns and two IDeA state 
        CTSAs, to serve as a clinical research resource center for all 
        of the CTRs, as well as other institutions in IDeA states.\5\ 
        The ISCORE Resource Center, based at West Virginia University, 
        will help CTR-Ns develop collaborations with clinical trial 
        sponsors and build a cohort of clinical research coordinators 
        to manage clinical trials so that CTR-Ns can better address 
        health conditions with high prevalence among medically 
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    Question. I noticed with great interest of the recent announcement 
that NIH will support Network Research Hubs to Integrate Clinical 
Research into Primary Care settings. Can you explain how you envision 
these hubs will work and how would their efforts would help medically 
underserved and disadvantaged populations?
    Answer. Many communities across the United States are 
underrepresented or historically underserved in clinical research and 
are often disproportionately impacted by illness and disease. As a 
result, clinical studies frequently do not sufficiently produce results 
that are applicable to these communities. Communities Advancing 
Research Equity for HealthTM (CARE for HealthTM) 
will allow us to connect with patients and providers, earning trusted 
partnerships and engaging with community-guided opportunities to 
integrate the research we do into the routine clinical care patients 
receive. The program's Network Research Hubs will leverage existing 
research networks and partnerships with clinical sites to support 
clinical research in primary care settings. Participating sites will be 
able to select and collaboratively design the studies they want to 
offer their patients, directly driving research to best meet community-
identified needs. We hope that by enhancing access to research 
opportunities, particularly among those historically underrepresented 
and underserved in research, we will have a meaningful impact on health 
treatment and outcomes.
    Question. Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine (DOs) are trained and 
licensed to provide osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM), a hands-on 
treatment used to diagnose and treat illness and injury that can be 
used to treat structural and functional issues in the bones, joints, 
tissues and muscles of the body. OMM is a non-pharmacological solution 
to pain management that requires more research. Every year, the West 
Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine (WVSOM) holds an annual Student 
Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine Clinic for residents of Lewisburg and 
surrounding areas.
    As you know, the opioid epidemic has ravaged West Virginia like no 
other state. Every family in our state has been affected by this 
horrible epidemic and we must continue to address this crisis so that 
our communities can continue to recover. That is why I have been 
supportive of legislation that ensures non-opioid treatments are used 
whenever possible.
    What are the NIH's plans to increase and expand research into the 
use of osteopathic manipulative medicine as a non-addictive alternative 
to opioids for pain management?
    Answer. Research into non-pharmacologic and non-addictive 
techniques for pain management is a very important area of science 
supported by the NIH. The Helping to End Addiction Long-term 
Initiative, or the NIH HEAL Initiative, supports a number of programs 
focused on reducing opioid prescribing, improving pain management, and 
treating opioid-use disorders. The National Center for Complementary 
and Integrative Health (NCCIH) focuses solely on non-pharmacologic 
treatments and devotes approximately 40 percent of its budget to pain 
research.
    Physicians with a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree 
represent an important component of the medical community. They 
straddle the complementary, integrative health, and allopathic medical 
practices and have historically been connected to NCCIH through the 
practice of osteopathic manipulation. Osteopathic manipulation is a 
full-body system of hands-on techniques to alleviate pain, restore 
function, and promote health and wellbeing. This and other manual 
therapies are of interest to NCCIH. In 2022, NCCIH in partnership with 
the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS) 
launched three new research networks focused on studying the effects of 
mechanical forces on the human body. These exciting research networks 
bring together scientists that study neural systems with clinicians who 
use force-based manipulations--such as massage therapy, spinal 
manipulation or acupuncture--to treat health problems. These span basic 
research through dissemination and implementation science. However, 
NCCIH does not receive many applications from D.O.s or Colleges of 
Osteopathic Medicine. In the last 5 years, NCCIH has received 2,738 
scientific grant applications; of those only six applications have been 
from D.O.s or Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine. This suggests that the 
most impactful way to expand research into the use of osteopathic 
manipulative medicine is to increase the number of grant applications 
submitted from D.O.s or Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine.
    NIH is making efforts to increase the number of applications for 
osteopathic research through conversations with organizations 
representing osteopathic physicians and specific funding opportunities 
for clinician-scientists, which includes D.O.s. Examples of such 
programs include but are not limited to: Mentored Clinical Scientist 
Research Career Development Awards, Clinical Scientist Institutional 
Career Development program, Academic Research Enhancement Award 
program, Mentored Patient-Oriented Research Career Development Award, 
and the Loan Repayment Program. In addition to these efforts, NCCIH has 
launched one and plans to launch an additional Research Across 
Complementary and Integrative Health Institutions (REACH) Center. The 
idea of these Centers is to foster institutional partnerships between 
large research institutions and smaller complementary and integrative 
health institutions, including Schools of Osteopathic Medicine, to 
perform the necessary administrative functions related to writing and 
submitting a competitive grant application and conducting research.
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          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
NIH Proposal on Promoting Equity Through Access Planning RFI
    Question. Is this policy proposal intended to be complimentary to 
the NIST March In Rights proposal or separate?
    Public comments are due on July 22, 2024. Do you have an expected 
timeline for finalizing a proposal?
    Answer. All NIH activities are driven by the principle that our 
work is not finished when we deliver scientific discoveries; our work 
is finished when all people are living long and healthy lives. To 
advance this aim, NIH is seeking comment on a policy proposal that 
would require licensees that succeed in bringing products based on 
certain NIH-owned inventions toward market submit a plan outlining 
steps they intend to take to promote patient access to those products. 
This proposal, if implemented, would affect inventions developed by 
government scientists at the NIH Intramural Research Program, and makes 
it clear that access is of paramount importance in providing a return 
on taxpayers' investment in biomedical research. At this time, NIH is 
seeking comments on this proposal through mid-July and those comments 
will be critical in informing the nature of any final policy or 
timelines for implementation.
    While NIH's access planning efforts are complementary to the USG 
efforts to make products available to patients, this work is distinct 
from review of the use of march-in authority as laid out in the Bayh-
Dole Act. However, both endeavors reflect NIH's commitment to efforts 
to improve the health of all Americans and advance innovation 
consistent with the interests of the American public.
Osteopathic Research and Representation at NIH
    Question. What will the NIH do this year to increase utilization of 
osteopathic researchers to improve primary care and preventative 
research?
    Answer. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) is dedicated to 
strengthening and diversifying the biomedical research workforce, 
including for physician scientists. As part of this effort, NIH 
continues to address recommendations described in a 2014 report focused 
on the physician-scientist workforce from the NIH Advisory Committee to 
the Director (ACD).\6\ NIH agrees with the report's conclusion that 
``findings which lead to advances in practice are driven largely by the 
work of investigators with a variety of degrees, of whom those with 
clinical training contribute essential knowledge and skills.'' 
Physician-scientists represent vital investment in research discovery 
and innovation. These researchers help transform clinical observations 
into hypotheses and research findings into medical advances.
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    Though there are no plans to release funding opportunities specific 
for osteopathic research, osteopathic medical schools (and their 
principal investigators) are welcome to review and apply for any NIH 
funding opportunities in the same way other organizations seeking NIH 
support do. Osteopathic medical schools could also consider referencing 
their medical principles in their grant applications in response to 
current funding opportunities to highlight how these principles help 
strengthen the scientific and technical merit of the proposed research. 
NIH would also recommend interested osteopathic medical schools and 
Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.s) follow the NIH Guide for Grants 
and Contracts to learn about new biomedical and behavioral research 
grant policies, guidelines, and funding opportunities. They should also 
contact appropriate program staff at NIH to discuss potential funding 
opportunities, as well as participate in planned webinars and other 
outreach activities available to all organizations to learn more about 
NIH programs and policies (some of which are promoted through the NIH 
Extramural Nexus newsletter).
    NIH recognizes that strengthening the future workforce includes 
fostering opportunities for physician-scientists with osteopathic 
medical degrees. Physicians with a D.O. degree represent an important 
component of the medical system at the intersection of the 
complementary, integrative health, and allopathic medical communities. 
These physicians practice osteopathic manipulation, a full-body system 
of hands-on techniques to alleviate pain, restore function, and promote 
health and wellbeing.
    This promising approach is of interest to the National Center for 
Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH), and the Center makes 
every effort to ensure that D.O.s have representation on its advisory 
council. NCCIH currently has two members with D.O. degrees on its 18-
member council.\7\ Though they have historically been connected to the 
NCCIH, D.O.s have also been designated on applications submitted to and 
awarded from other NIH Institutes and Centers. Similarly, D.O.s also 
serve in other peer review capacities across NIH Institutes and Centers 
in addition to NCCIH.
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    Table 1 lists the total funding and number of awards (both 
competing and non-competing) NIH made to osteopathic medical schools in 
fiscal years (FYs) 2020 to 2023.
    Table 1. Number of NIH Research Project Grant Awards and Funding to 
Osteopathic Medical Schools: FYs 2020-2023

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                  Fiscal Year                      Awards      Funding
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2020..........................................           71  $42,618,974
2021..........................................           58  $35,426,785
2022..........................................           72  $43,408,636
2023..........................................           69  $39,161,807
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    Table 2 shows the success rate for competing research project grant 
\8\ applications submitted by investigators in osteopathic medical 
schools between FYs 2020 and 2023. The success rate is an application-
based metric that is calculated by dividing the number of awards made 
in a FY by the number of applications.\9\ NIH receives few applications 
from osteopathic medical schools, but their success rates are generally 
in line with overall NIH success rates.\10\ Again, NIH encourages 
osteopathic medical schools to review and apply for funding 
opportunities that are also available to the entire research community.
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    Table 2. Success Rate for Competing Research Project Grant 
Applications from Osteopathic Medical Schools: FYs 2020-2023

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2020............................           119           20        16.8%
2021............................            70           18        25.7%
2022............................           144           25        17.4%
2023............................           120           22        18.3%
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    NCCIH and other NIH ICs have specific opportunities for clinician-
scientists, including D.O.s, who conduct research across a wide range 
of complementary and integrative health approaches. Osteopathic medical 
schools and D.O.s should consider applying for these and other funding 
opportunities. Examples of such programs include, but are not limited 
to:
  --Communities Advancing Research Equity (CARE) for Health \11\
  --HEAL Prevention and Management of Chronic Pain in Rural Populations 
        program \12\
  --Mentored Clinical Scientist Research Career Development Awards \13\
  --Clinical Scientist Institutional Career Development program \14\
  --Academic Research Enhancement Award program \15\
  --Mentored Patient-Oriented Research Career Development Award \16\
  --Loan Repayment Program \17\
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    \12\ heal.nih.gov/research/clinical-research/chronic-pain-rural-
populations.
    \13\ researchtraining.nih.gov/programs/career-development/K08.
    \14\ researchtraining.nih.gov/programs/career-development/k12.
    \15\ grants.nih.gov/grants/funding/r15.htm.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator John Kennedy
    Question. Director Bertagnolli, the NIH has long resisted moving 
their chimpanzees from the Alamogordo Primate Facility to Chimp Haven 
in Louisiana, despite a clear congressional mandate to do so. These 
chimpanzees have remained in the same facility where they underwent 
experimental research for decades. According to your own agency, these 
chimpanzees are anticipated to live for many more years, justifying the 
need for annual revaluations.
    With this in mind, why does the NIH continue to refuse to relocate 
these chimps?
    Answer. NIH has already moved 494 chimpanzees to Chimp Haven 
between 2005 (when the sanctuary opened) and May 2024, including 75 
chimpanzees from the Alamogordo Primate Facility (APF); some of these 
chimpanzees had chronic health issues, but their disease progression 
was not at levels that would compromise successful relocation, 
introduction, and integration into new social groups. In contrast, the 
transport and integration of the remaining chimpanzees at APF would not 
be safe. Their health status puts them at high risk of dying during the 
transport or integration process. Since it is the responsibility and 
obligation of NIH to protect the health and welfare of the chimpanzees, 
we are unwilling to risk having them die in transport or shortly 
thereafter. As of May 23, 2024, twenty-four chimpanzees remain at APF 
and are in health category V, which consists of animals that have been 
diagnosed with life-threatening, systemic disease that poses a constant 
threat and could result in abrupt death. More details about this health 
category can be found at Chimpanzee Health Categorization Framework: 
Harmonized Across NIH-supported Facilities.\18\
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    In Humane Society of the United States, et al. vs. National 
Institutes of Health, et al., No. 8:2021cv00121, NIH stated that it 
reads the Court's December 13, 2022, Decision to hold that the ``CHIMP 
Act mandates the transfer of all APF Chimpanzees to Chimp Haven,'' ECF 
No. 54 at 13, unless a chimpanzee is ``moribund.'' ECF No. 70 at 3. NIH 
further stated that, ``[s]ince before this litigation began, NIH has 
used that term [moribund] to refer to chimpanzees placed in Class V on 
the rating scale NIH created after a lengthy scientific process--those 
animals with `life-threatening, systemic disease that poses a constant 
threat and could result in abrupt death.' Id. NIH has categorized each 
remaining APF Chimpanzee as being in Class V, and thus as `moribund' 
based on the agency's understanding of that term. Id. NIH plans to 
annually reevaluate each of the APF Chimpanzees, as urged by Congress, 
to consider whether they continue to be ``moribund'' or if they are no 
longer ``moribund'' and can be safely transported to Chimp Haven.'' Id.
    Question. Also, why does the NIH continue to express this position 
when in 2022 a Federal judge ruled that your agency was in violation of 
Federal law by refusing to move these chimps?
    Answer. On December 13, 2022, in its decision, the Court declined 
to direct NIH to transfer the chimpanzees at Alamogordo to Chimp Haven. 
In doing so, the Court stated: ``NIH has unique expertise regarding the 
transfer and care of the APF Chimpanzees that must also be taken into 
account when considering whether to [order a transfer] ECF No. 54 at 3-
4, 12. Notably, Congress has afforded discretion to NIH to make 
decisions about how best to safely accomplish the transfer of the APF 
Chimpanzees. These considerations . . . caution against the Court 
imposing a deadline, or other directives, on NIH regarding the timing 
and method of the transfer of the APF Chimpanzees. Indeed, as the Court 
observed in its December 13, 2022, Decision, `the Court recognizes and 
appreciates the difficult policy and practical considerations that NIH 
must confront in determining how best to ensure the health and safety 
of the frailest APF Chimpanzees, when transporting these chimpanzees to 
the Federal sanctuary system.' ECF No., 53 at 12. [A transfer order] 
would improperly supplant NIH's discretion in this regard.'' ECF No. 73 
at 7.
    Question. In response to my colleague Senator Lujan's question 
during your confirmation hearing, you wrote in your written response 
that ``. . .I am committed to carrying out the goals of the CHIMP Act 
to ensure that these chimpanzees get the sanctuary and care they 
deserve.'' I would like an update on NIH's work to carry out your 
commitment to get these chimpanzees to Chimp Haven.
    Answer. As noted in prior filings with the district court (ECF 55 
at 6, ECF 70 at 3), NIH plans to re- evaluate each chimpanzee on an 
annual basis to determine whether they can be safely transported to 
Chimp Haven, taking into account each chimpanzee's health conditions 
and the unavoidable and inevitable stresses that result from transport 
and transfer of animals from one facility to another. Annual reviews by 
NIH will begin in summer/fall 2024. NIH remains fully committed to 
complying with the relevant animal welfare laws and policies and 
ensuring the safety and care of all NIH-owned and -supported 
chimpanzees.
    The APF has been and will remain a chimpanzee care facility; no 
biomedical research has been or will be conducted at APF since NIH took 
over management of the facility in 2001. NIH will continue to monitor 
the chimpanzee care program at APF to ensure that chimpanzee care is 
provided at the highest standards expected by the NIH.
    Question. Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine (COMs) are critically 
underrepresented and underfunded by the NIH, despite educating a 
quarter of U.S. medical students. DO medical schools receive only $62 
million in NIH grants compared to $23 billion for MD schools, and DO 
representation is almost nonexistent on NIH study councils and study 
sections. Congress raised these concerns in the FY22, 23 and 24 omnibus 
appropriations bills (Public Laws 117-103; 117-328; and 118-47) and in 
a 2022 letter, yet the NIH has taken no overt action to address the 
concerns raised by Congress.
    What will NIH be doing this year to address the agency's chronic 
underfunding of osteopathic research and underrepresentation of 
osteopathic scientists?
    Answer. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) is dedicated to 
strengthening and diversifying the biomedical research workforce, 
including for physician scientists. As part of this effort, NIH 
continues to address recommendations described in a 2014 report focused 
on the physician- scientist workforce from the NIH Advisory Committee 
to the Director (ACD).\19\ NIH agrees with the report's conclusion that 
``findings which lead to advances in practice are driven largely by the 
work of investigators with a variety of degrees, of whom those with 
clinical training contribute essential knowledge and skills.'' 
Physician-scientists represent vital investment in research discovery 
and innovation. These researchers help transform clinical observations 
into hypotheses and research findings into medical advances.
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    Though there are no plans to release funding opportunities specific 
for osteopathic research, osteopathic medical schools (and their 
principal investigators) are welcome to review and apply for any NIH 
funding opportunities in the same way other organizations seeking NIH 
support do. Osteopathic medical schools could also consider referencing 
their medical principles in their grant applications in response to 
current funding opportunities to highlight how these principles help 
strengthen the scientific and technical merit of the proposed research. 
NIH would also recommend interested osteopathic medical schools and 
Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.s) follow the NIH Guide for Grants 
and Contracts to learn about new biomedical and behavioral research 
grant policies, guidelines, and funding opportunities. They should also 
contact appropriate program staff at NIH to discuss potential funding 
opportunities, as well as participate in planned webinars and other 
outreach activities available to all organizations to learn more about 
NIH programs and policies (some of which are promoted through the NIH 
Extramural Nexus newsletter).
    NIH recognizes that strengthening the future workforce includes 
fostering opportunities for physician-scientists with osteopathic 
medical degrees. Physicians with a D.O. degree represent an important 
component of the medical system at the intersection of the 
complementary, integrative health, and allopathic medical communities. 
These physicians practice osteopathic manipulation, a full-body system 
of hands-on techniques to alleviate pain, restore function, and promote 
health and wellbeing.
    This promising approach is of interest to the National Center for 
Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH), and the Center makes 
every effort to ensure that D.O.s have representation on its advisory 
council. NCCIH currently has two members with D.O. degrees on its 18-
member council.\20\ Though they have historically been connected to the 
NCCIH, D.O.s have also been designated on applications submitted to and 
awarded from other NIH Institutes and Centers. Similarly, D.O.s also 
serve in other peer review capacities across NIH Institutes and Centers 
in addition to NCCIH.
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    Table 1 lists the total funding and number of awards (both 
competing and non-competing) NIH made to osteopathic medical schools in 
fiscal years (FYs) 2020 to 2023.
    Table 1. Number of NIH Research Project Grant Awards and Funding to 
Osteopathic Medical Schools: FYs 2020-2023

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                  Fiscal Year                      Awards      Funding
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2020..........................................           71  $42,618,974
2021..........................................           58  $35,426,785
2022..........................................           72  $43,408,636
2023..........................................           69  $39,161,807
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    Table 2 shows the success rate for competing research project grant 
\21\ applications submitted by investigators in osteopathic medical 
schools between FYs 2020 and 2023. The success rate is an application-
based metric that is calculated by dividing the number of awards made 
in a FY by the number of applications.\22\ NIH receives few 
applications from osteopathic medical schools, but their success rates 
are generally in line with overall NIH success rates.\23\ Again, NIH 
encourages osteopathic medical schools to review and apply for funding 
opportunities that are also available to the entire research community.
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    Table 2. Success Rate for Competing Research Project Grant 
Applications from Osteopathic Medical Schools: FYs 2020-2023

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2020............................           119           20        16.8%
2021............................            70           18        25.7%
2022............................           144           25        17.4%
2023............................           120           22        18.3%
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    NCCIH and other NIH ICs have specific opportunities for clinician-
scientists, including D.O.s, who conduct research across a wide range 
of complementary and integrative health approaches. Osteopathic medical 
schools and D.O.s should consider applying for these and other funding 
opportunities. Examples of such programs include, but are not limited 
to:
  --Communities Advancing Research Equity (CARE) for Health\24\
  --HEAL Prevention and Management of Chronic Pain in Rural Populations 
        program\25\
  --Mentored Clinical Scientist Research Career Development Awards\26\
  --Clinical Scientist Institutional Career Development program\27\
  --Academic Research Enhancement Award program\28\
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              Questions Submitted by Senator John Boozman
    Question. Arkansas is currently struggling with the highest 
maternal mortality rate in the country, and the entire state has come 
together over the last year to find ways to improve the crisis. I am 
intrigued by the work NIH is doing in the maternal health space, 
including the launch of the IMPROVE Initiative, and was pleased to see 
a geographically diverse group of institutions chosen as the centers of 
excellence.
    Will any of the research be focused on rural areas and the unique 
set of factors impacting outcomes for women in rural areas?
    Answer. NIH is committed to improving health for all pregnant and 
postpartum women, which includes addressing the unique needs of women 
in rural areas who may not have access to specialized healthcare or 
technologies. This commitment is built into the IMPROVE initiative, 
including the Maternal Health Research Centers of Excellence, which 
focus on populations with known health disparities, including tribal 
communities, and those living in underserved and rural areas. These 
centers are working to develop and implement community-driven 
interventions, as well as supporting training and professional 
development of maternal health researchers, including those from 
underrepresented backgrounds.
    Another component of the IMPROVE initiative is the Rapid 
Acceleration of Diagnostics Technology (RADx Tech) for Maternal Health 
Challenge. It prioritizes the development of home-based or point-of-
care diagnostic devices, wearables, and other remote sensing 
technologies in order to improve postpartum outcomes for those living 
in areas lacking maternity care access. Ten teams have advanced to the 
final Technology Assessment Phase and are developing solutions related 
to blood pressure monitoring, mental health, hemorrhage, urinary tract 
infections (UTIs), and anemia.
    Question. NIH's Draft Intramural Research Program Policy released 
May 22nd includes requirements for Access Plans that include an 
``affordability'' component that could include ``committing to keep 
prices in the U.S. equal to those in other developed countries.'' I am 
concerned that this proposal could encumber NIH inventions with 
requirements that would not be associated with non-NIH inventions.
    Would this make it more difficult to license these inventions, and 
put taxpayer-funded inventions at a competitive disadvantage in the 
innovation ecosystem?
    Did NIH consider its November 2021 analysis that found the 
``reasonable pricing'' policy implemented from 1989 to 1995 drove 
industry away from potentially beneficial collaborations in issuing 
this draft?
    Answer. NIH is seeking comment on a policy proposal that would 
require licensees that succeed in bringing products based on certain 
NIH-owned inventions toward market submit a plan outlining steps they 
intend to take to promote patient access to those products. Access can 
take on many forms, including product affordability, availability, 
acceptability, and sustainability. Accordingly, NIH is currently 
seeking input on this proposal to consider the range of activities that 
could be considered and strategies to mitigate access challenges and 
expand the reach, and benefit, of drugs, biologics, vaccines, and 
devices stemming from NIH inventions.
    NIH seeks to drive effective partnerships that foster a shared 
commitment to transforming knowledge into improved health for all. NIH 
continues to explore a variety of approaches currently employed by 
technology transfer communities, such as the access planning model, as 
well as evaluate data generated from prior policy initiatives, such as 
the reasonable pricing efforts in the 1990s. We will continue to work 
with patients, industry partners, technology transfer and licensing 
professionals, research institutions, and other interested individuals 
to craft an approach forward that advances the NIH mission and drives 
biomedical innovation.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Marco Rubio
    Question. In a recent hearing of the Select Subcommittee on the 
Coronavirus Pandemic, NIH principal deputy director Lawrence Tabak 
confirmed on the record that American taxpayer dollars were used to 
fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 
China in the years leading up to the COVID-19 pandemic. The American 
people, of course, have known this fact for some time, yet Federal 
officials have avoided giving a direct answer to prevent blame for the 
pandemic from being traced to Federal investment in untrustworthy 
Chinese labs. There were many drastic errors in research oversight 
here, including grantees knowingly failing to report that their 
modified coronaviruses were altered to become 10,000 times more 
infectious. Accountability is the first step to ensuring a global 
health and security crisis of this magnitude will never happen again. 
The American people deserve to know what happened, how their hard-
earned money was egregiously invested, and how the agency is improving 
its transparency and communication.
    Could you define gain-of-function research as the NIH understands 
it?
    Can you confirm that U.S. taxpayer dollars were indeed granted to 
the Wuhan Institute of Virology to carry out gain-of function research?
    Does the NIH intend to reinstate its relationship with the 
EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology once their 
funding bans have lifted?
    As an act of building greater trust in public health agencies, 
would the NIH provide all of its documentation to Congress, and the 
public, regarding its internal and external correspondence about the 
NIH funded grant to the EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of 
Virology to carry out coronavirus gain-of-function research?
    What steps has the NIH taken/will take to ensure grantees engaging 
in research with infectious pathogens are complying with NIH rules and 
will not produce dangerous products?
    Will the NIH commit to ceasing all distribution of Federal funds 
toward research institutions domiciled in the People's Republic of 
China or otherwise directed or controlled by the Chinese Communist 
Party?
    Answer. NIH does not define the term gain-of-function, and current 
USG, HHS, and NIH policy do not define or operationalize these terms. 
Official Federal definitions pertaining to research that requires 
additional review and oversight are outlined in the following official 
USG and HHS policies: the 2017 Recommended Policy Guidance for 
Departmental Development of Review Mechanisms for Potential Pandemic 
Pathogen Care and Oversight (OSTP P3CO Policy Guidance) \31\ issued by 
the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, the HHS 
Framework for Guiding Funding Decisions about Proposed Research 
Involving Enhanced Potential Pandemic Pathogens (HHS P3CO 
Framework),\32\ the United States Government Policy for Oversight of 
Life Sciences Dual Use Research of Concern \33\ and the United States 
Government Policy for Institutional Oversight of Life Sciences Dual Use 
Research of Concern \34\ (collectively the USG DURC Policies). These 
oversight frameworks are part of a robust U.S. biosafety and 
biosecurity oversight system comprised of multiple, complementary 
regulations, policies, and guidelines to minimize potential risks and 
preserve benefits of critical life sciences research for the American 
people.
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PPPs%20resulting%20from%20the%20enhancement.
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    Information on research projects that have completed review in 
accordance with the HHS P3CO Framework since its adoption in 2017 is 
publicly posted on HHS's website.\35\ Research with pathogens, 
including research that may fall under the USG DURC policies and P3CO 
framework, is necessary to understand their function and helps us 
identify, understand, and develop strategies and effective 
countermeasures against rapidly evolving pathogens that pose threats to 
our public health, economic, and national security. The EcoHealth 
Alliance (EHA) application did not propose research to enhance 
coronaviruses to be more transmissible or virulent in humans and thus 
did not fall under these policy frameworks or definitions.
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    On May 6, 2024, OSTP released an expanded and unified USG Policy 
for Oversight of Dual Use Research of Concern and Pathogens with 
Enhanced Pandemic Potential.\36\ This new USG-wide policy, which will 
be effective on May 6, 2025, combines the current DURC and P3CO 
oversight frameworks, and expands the scope of research requiring 
additional review. NIH staff are evaluating the recently released 
policy and will work with our HHS counterparts towards updating and 
establishing policies and oversight procedures, as needed, during the 
1-year implementation period to ensure consistent implementation. The 
policy states that OSTP and NSC staff, in consultation with relevant 
departments and agencies, will coordinate a process for identifying 
countries posing risks in which the U.S. government should not fund 
DURC or research involving pathogens with enhanced pandemic potential 
(as defined therein). At the time of release of the policy, the Federal 
government will not fund such research in the following countries: the 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), the Islamic Republic of 
Iran, the Russian Federation, the People's Republic of China (along 
with the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, for the 
purposes of this policy), Cuba, Syria, and Venezuela. NIH will adhere 
to the requirements articulated in this new USG policy, including with 
respect to definitions, the assessment of risks and benefits and the 
development of risk mitigation plans. NIH notes that the term gain-of-
function also is not defined in this policy.
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government-policy-for-oversight-of-dual-use- research-of-concern-and-
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    NIH has not made any awards to the Wuhan Institute of Virology 
(WIV). Rather, NIH awarded a grant to the EcoHealth Alliance (prime 
recipient), who in turn made a subaward to WIV. Information on prime 
awards from NIH are available on the NIH RePORTER system,\37\ and 
subaward information made by prime recipients is available on 
USASpending.gov.\38\ On July 17, 2023, the DHHS Suspension and 
Debarment Office (SDO) officially suspended WIV and proposed debarment 
of WIV due to its failure to turn over requested records to EHA. On 
September 19, 2023, WIV was debarred until July 2033. And on May 15, 
2024, DHHS took action to suspend and propose for debarment of EHA. NIH 
awaits the SDO's findings.
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    NIH takes our stewardship over the Nation's investment in 
biomedical research very seriously. NIH actively manages and 
administers NIH awards in a manner to ensure that Federal funding is 
expended and associated programs are implemented in full accordance 
with the U.S. Constitution, Federal Law, and public policy 
requirements. Furthermore, the NIH follows all United States Government 
laws, policies, and guidance in distribution of Federal funds to 
research institutions in foreign countries. NIH remains committed to 
transparency with Congress and the public and will continue to produce 
internal and external documentation about research funded by NIH.
    Question. The NIH has long been a leader in supporting research and 
development to tackle our nation's greatest public health challenges. 
However, I remain concerned that the NIH is distorting priorities and 
constructing barriers that prevent qualified, needed researchers from 
accessing Federal grants in the name of promoting ``DEI.'' The NIH's 
policy of requiring grantees to submit a ``Plan for Enhancing Diverse 
Perspectives'' or PEDP mandates that researchers prioritize spending 
their precious time and capital to check the diversity box. The NIH 
should trust that researchers will hire the most qualified personnel 
and focus on partnering with entities that maximize the quality of 
their research, rather than seeing essential research as a laboratory 
to impose radical social mandates. At the end of the day, the NIH 
should care most about ensuring that taxpayer funded investments will 
yield results for the American people, not that they are appeasing to 
left-wing advocates.
    How many NIH initiatives and sub agencies are currently requiring 
applicants to submit PEDPs as a portion of their application?
    How did the NIH develop their criterion within their PEDP?
    How do the peer reviewers weigh an applicant's PEDP against the 
rest of their application?
    Are there additional avenues available for applicants who do not 
include a PEDP in their application?
    Is there an option for an applicant to appeal if they are denied 
based on their PEDP?
    Have any scientists refused to serve on an NIH peer review panel 
because of the directive to mandate inclusion of PEDPs in grant 
applications?
    Answer. The Plan for Enhancing Diverse Perspectives (PEDP) in NIH 
grant applications is a summary of actionable strategies to advance the 
scientific merit of proposed projects through diverse perspectives. The 
NIH recognizes that teams comprised of investigators with diverse 
perspectives working together and capitalizing on innovative ideas and 
distinct viewpoints outperform homogeneous teams. To support the best 
science, the NIH encourages inclusivity in research guided by the 
consideration of diverse perspectives. Broadly, diverse perspectives 
can include but are not limited to the educational background and 
scientific expertise of the people who perform the research; the 
populations who participate as human subjects in research studies; and 
the places where research is done. More information on the 
implementation of PEDPs is available on the NIH Grants site.\39\ NIH 
does not require that all funding opportunities include a PEDP as a 
part of the application submission process.
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    The NIH developed PEDP criteria through consultations with 
scientific experts from across the NIH, with input from the research 
community, and a review of relevant literature. Peer reviewers, 
individuals that are themselves comprised of scientists from the 
extramural research community, evaluate PEDPs as part of the Overall 
Impact score of an application, focusing on how these plans help to 
advance the scientific merit of the proposed project. This evaluation 
is integrated with other critical components of the application, such 
as significance, innovation, and approach. Consistent with Federal law, 
the race, ethnicity, or sex (including gender identity, sexual 
orientation, or transgender status) of a researcher, award participant, 
or trainee will not be considered, even in part, during the application 
review process or when making funding decisions. Applicants that do not 
have their applications approved for funding may utilize the long-
standing process of appeal developed by NIH.
    The review community has been very receptive to the goals of the 
PEDP. While a reviewer may recuse themselves from reviewing any 
application should they feel uncomfortable with its contents, to date 
no reviewer has reported that they recuse themselves from reviewing an 
application because of the inclusion of a PEDP.
    By fostering diverse perspectives, the NIH aims to support high-
quality science and maximize the impact of taxpayer-funded research, 
ensuring that the results benefit the broadest possible audience.
    Question. As you know, the NIH is currently in the process of 
updating its mission statement. However, as I and Senator Duckworth 
previously communicated to you in January, I remain concerned about the 
NIH's proposed removal of the goal to ``lengthen life'' from the 
agency's mission statement, without any justification. As U.S. life 
expectancy is now lower than it was fifteen years ago and nations are 
increasingly embracing physician assisted suicide, it is critical that 
the NIH continues to emphasize an approach to biomedical research that 
affirms the value and dignity of every human life.
    At what stage is the NIH in the process of reviewing and publishing 
its final mission statement?
    Answer. NIH has analyzed the hundreds of responses to the Request 
for Information (RFI) \40\ inviting feedback on a proposed update to 
the NIH mission statement. NIH Director Bertagnolli intends to provide 
an update on the progress during her Director's Report of the NIH 
Advisory Committee to the Director (ACD) meeting on June 13, 2024.\41\ 
The RFI results, which will be posted in a public report in the coming 
weeks, have indicated that more input is needed to better understand 
all perspectives before finalizing a new mission statement.
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    Question. Is the NIH concerned by evidence suggesting that false 
stereotypes and biases regarding people with disabilities could lead to 
discrimination in how doctors recommend physician-assisted suicide to 
their patients?
    Answer. NIH would be deeply concerned if false stereotypes and 
biases regarding people with disabilities led to discrimination.
    Question. When does the NIH intend to publish its final mission 
statement?
    Answer. As noted above (3a), analysis of the RFI results has 
indicated more input is needed. NIH intends to publish its final 
mission statement following additional public engagement over the 
coming months.
    Question. Does the NIH pledge to continue supporting research and 
innovation that will lengthen life?
    Answer. NIH intends to continue supporting research and innovation 
to help all people live long and healthy lives.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Susan M. Collins
    Question. Dr. Bertagnolli, despite a proposed increase of more than 
$1 billion across NIH, I am concerned about the proposed decrease for 
the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases 
(NIDDK), which is the primary Federal agency responsible for conducting 
research for the prevention and treatment of diabetes. This proposal 
comes at a time when rates of diabetes are skyrocketing, particularly 
among our youth. According to the CDC, the number of young people under 
age 20 with diabetes in the United States is likely to increase more 
rapidly in future decades. This expected upward trend may lead to as 
many as 220,000 young people having type 2 diabetes in 2060--a nearly 
700% increase. The number of young people with type 1 diabetes could 
increase by as much as 65% in the next 40 years. Even if the rate of 
new diabetes diagnoses among young people remains the same over the 
decades, type 2 diabetes diagnoses could increase nearly 70% and type 1 
diabetes diagnoses could increase 3% by 2060. Given the cost and burden 
of diabetes, why is the NIH proposing a decrease at the NIDDK?
    Answer. The National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney 
Diseases (NIDDK) sincerely thanks the Committee for the budget increase 
we received through the FY 2024 appropriations. Because the President's 
Budget was released prior to the enactment of FY 2024 appropriations, 
this increase was not considered in the process of budget development, 
which was based on the FY 2024 Continuing Resolution. There was no 
intent to propose a budget decrease in discretionary funding at NIDDK 
in FY 2025. NIH is committed to supporting diabetes research that will 
advance effective prevention and intervention approaches for all, 
including children and young people. The skyrocketing rates of diabetes 
in youth are especially alarming as NIH-supported studies have shown 
that type 2 diabetes is much more difficult to treat and progresses 
more rapidly when it occurs in young people than in those who develop 
it in middle age or later. Studies have also shown that type 2 diabetes 
in youth disproportionately impacts underrepresented populations. NIDDK 
is supporting a new study, called DISCOVERY, that will follow a cohort 
of youth at risk for developing type 2 diabetes to better understand 
diabetes progression in youth and adolescents and to discover factors 
that may help predict diabetes onset and progression. To combat the 
rising rates of type 1 diabetes, NIDDK-funded research, including The 
Environmental Determinants of Diabetes in the Young (TEDDY) study 
supported by the Special Diabetes Program, is working to identify what 
environmental factors may contribute to type 1 diabetes onset. These 
projects, as well as others in NIDDK's diabetes portfolio, aim to 
understand and curb these alarming increases.
    Question. In March, I led reauthorization of the Special Diabetes 
Program (SDP) through December 31, 2024, at an annual rate of 
approximately $160 million per year--a roughly $10 million increase 
from current funding levels. This is the first funding increase for SDP 
in 20 years. The Special Diabetes Program has made significant 
scientific progress toward the goal of preventing, treating, and 
ultimately curing type 1 diabetes. Can you discuss some of the advances 
that have come from this program and how the funding increase and 
extension under consideration at the end of the year would help further 
advance these important goals?
    Answer. The Special Diabetes Program (SDP) has led to 
groundbreaking progress that is improving the health and quality of 
life of people with type 1 diabetes. For example, decades of SDP-
supported foundational research and clinical trials culminated in 
recent U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approvals of the first 
drug (teplizumab) that can delay onset of type 1 diabetes diagnosis in 
people at high risk for developing the disease; the first cellular 
therapy (islet transplantation) to treat adults with type 1 diabetes 
who have recurrent episodes of dangerously low blood glucose levels; 
and hybrid artificial pancreas devices that have greatly eased the 
burden of type 1 diabetes management. Other successes stemming from the 
Program include the paradigm-shifting understanding of how type 1 
diabetes progresses in distinct stages from normal glucose levels to 
clinically overt disease, and clinical trial results that have 
transformed the treatment of diabetic retinopathy and diabetic macular 
edema worldwide.
    The recent SDP renewal and historic funding increase are critical 
for building on the progress made by the Program's ongoing landmark 
research consortia and networks, as well as to support new and emerging 
research opportunities. These opportunities include exploring the use 
of sodium-glucose co-transporter-2 inhibitors (SGLT2i)--drugs that 
protect heart and kidney health in people with type 2 diabetes--as a 
treatment for type 1 diabetes; understanding the neurocognitive impact 
of type 1 diabetes in children to inform strategies to mitigate the 
risk of developing neurocognitive complications in later life; 
identifying mechanisms that promote the development of cardiovascular 
disease (CVD) in people with type 1 diabetes toward developing CVD 
prevention and treatment strategies for this population; identifying 
factors that restore awareness of hypoglycemia in adults with type 1 
diabetes and impaired awareness of hypoglycemia toward tailoring 
treatment approaches for these individuals; and developing next-
generation hybrid artificial pancreas systems. New type 1 diabetes 
research opportunities will also be discussed at a November 2024 
meeting of the statutory Diabetes Mellitus Interagency Coordinating 
Committee. The FY 2025 President's Budget proposes a further increase 
to the SDP, with a level of $260 million in FY 2025 and $270 million in 
FY 2026.
    Question. Four years after the start of the COVID pandemic, we 
still have many questions surrounding how to identify and treat Long 
COVID. In 2021, NIH launched the RECOVER Initiative to study Long COVID 
and look for treatments across different types of research studies. I 
have discussed the RECOVER Initiative both with those involved in the 
research, who defend its complexity, and others who are more critical 
due to the time spent defining the symptoms and a delayed emphasis on 
therapeutics. I believe in the NIH's ability to translate research into 
results patients feel on the ground, but I also understand the 
frustration that no ``cure'' or even real treatment has been found. Do 
you have any NIH-wide strategies to help RECOVER continue to work 
better given how varied the symptoms and treatments are?
    Answer. NIH RECOVER is an agency-wide priority that involves many 
parts of NIH, including the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute 
(NHLBI), the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke 
(NINDS) and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases 
(NIAID). Many of the investments made and structures created thus far 
were designed for the long haul. Given the challenge that infection-
associated conditions have been thus far--with little evidence that 
advances our understanding or treatments, we knew tackling Long COVID 
was neither going to be quick or easy. Some of the learnings to date 
include better understanding of how the numerous symptoms cluster, how 
different types of people (adults, children, pregnant people, etc.) and 
communities are affected, and the effect the virus has on tissue and 
organ systems. These learnings are enabling us to identify potential 
therapeutic targets that can bring potential relief to those 
experiencing the greatest burden from clusters of specific symptoms. In 
addition, longer term follow-up with individuals remains critical for 
NIH to understand how Long COVID behaves in patients over time.
    The NIH strategy is to tackle Long COVID on many fronts. 
Understanding the pathology and how the virus effects specific organs 
and tissues has shown to be pivotal to evolving hypotheses surround 
therapeutic targets. Continuing to leverage data technologies and 
enable greater exploration of the data from others will similarly yield 
consideration of promising interventions. The clinical trials approach 
enables multiple potential therapies to be tested at the same time, 
with the expectation that additional interventions and therapeutics 
will be added to these platforms in the future. Finally, NIH is 
listening to the numerous ideas that are coming to us through various 
channels and from various communities of patients, caregivers, 
clinicians, policy makers, and of course, researchers with knowledge in 
infection associated conditions. It is our hope that this strategy will 
allow NIH to find therapeutics and hopefully a treatment for this 
debilitating disease.
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  Questions Submitted to Dr. W. Kimryn Rathmell, M.D., Ph.D., M.M.H.C.
            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
    Question. Dr. Rathmell, West Virginia tops the fifty states in 
cancer risk. West Virginia University (WVU) is committed to reducing 
the risk of cancer for West Virginians through strengthening research. 
They are making great strides, evidenced by their growing cancer 
research portfolio. WVU is working to accelerate its progress by 
building a National Cancer Institute-designated cancer center with 
access to all NCI-sponsored cancer trials. I am 100% supportive of that 
goal as studies show patients treated at NCI-Designated Cancer Centers 
have higher survival and recovery rates.
    I understand there are three basic types of Cancer Centers: 
Comprehensive Cancer Centers, Clinical Cancer Centers, and Basic 
Laboratory Cancer Centers. NCI creates strict guidelines for what 
criteria a facility must meet to become a cancer center, but NCI has 
yet to consider facilities that serve large rural populations, or 
conduct research predominately in rural areas.
    Will NCI consider adding a new category for Cancer Center Support 
Grants (CCSGs) awards for cancer centers that are primarily providing 
care to rural and disadvantaged populations?
    Answer. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) Cancer Centers Program 
\42\ represents a substantial commitment to supporting research on 
breakthrough approaches to preventing, diagnosing, and treating all 
types of cancers for patients in communities across the United States. 
The program currently supports 72 NCI-Designated Cancer Centers, in 36 
states and the District of Columbia. NCI supports the research 
infrastructure for designated cancer centers to advance scientific 
goals and foster cancer programs that draw together investigators from 
different disciplines. The NCI Office of Cancer Centers \43\ (OCC) 
consults on a regular basis with cancer centers such as West Virginia 
University (WVU) planning a first-time application for NCI designation. 
The timeline for attainment of the designation varies greatly, 
depending on the status of the center at the time of initial contact 
with OCC. The OCC is pleased to continue working with WVU on this 
process and recognizes the opportunity that WVU has to improve services 
for medically underserved, rural populations in their catchment area.
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    NCI recognizes that the remarkable advances in cancer prevention, 
treatment, and survivorship made in recent decades are not experienced 
equitably across all populations in the United States. Patients living 
in rural areas are among those individuals who are less likely to have 
access to cutting-edge cancer care. It has been a longstanding goal of 
NCI to ensure that any person with a cancer diagnosis, or at risk of 
developing cancer, has an opportunity to participate in cancer 
research--and take advantage of the latest therapies and prevention 
strategies. NCI-designated Cancer Centers, through their Community 
Outreach and Engagement (COE) efforts, create programs catered to their 
catchment area that have increased the reach to rural communities. This 
is one of many key NCI-supported initiatives focused on rural areas 
across the country, including the NCI Community Oncology Research 
Program (NCORP), NCI's Virtual Clinical Trials Office, ongoing research 
focused on rural cancer control, and the recently created Working Group 
in Support of Efforts to Enhance Community Cancer Research and Quality 
Care.
  --NCORP is part of NCI's National Clinical Trials Network (over 2,200 
        sites across the United States) that brings cancer clinical 
        trials and care delivery studies to people in their own 
        communities. NCI-supported trials are available in every state, 
        not limited to NCI- designated centers. NCI clinical trials 
        networks reach across the country and make this possible, with 
        a specific focus on bringing cancer clinical trials to rural 
        populations. More than 100 NCI-supported trials are available 
        in West Virginia, including at WVU--this includes pediatric 
        trials through NCI's Children's Oncology Group.\44\
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  --In February 2024, NCI launched the Virtual Clinical Trials Office 
        Pilot Program, which aims to address clinical trials staffing 
        shortages by providing remote support staff.\45\The ultimate 
        goal of the program is to make it easier for community sites to 
        support enrollment in clinical trials, particularly in rural 
        and other underserved areas. NCI is optimistic that by 
        providing support through a centralized team of remote support 
        staff--including research nurses, clinical research associates, 
        and clinical data specialists--eventually all clinical 
        practices, regardless of their scope, patient population, or 
        location, will benefit from the lessons learned during this 
        pilot. Six institutions across the United States with various 
        geographical settings and clinical practice characteristics 
        have been selected to receive virtual clinical trials staffing 
        from NCI for the initial phase of the pilot program.
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  --NCI supports ongoing research focused on cancer control in rural 
        areas, including recent funding opportunities focused on 
        improving the reach and quality of cancer care in rural 
        populations \46\ and social and behavioral intervention 
        research to address modifiable risk factors in rural 
        populations.\47\ These funding opportunities supported 12 
        research projects focused on rural populations, including a 
        project providing high-quality technology-based supportive care 
        resources to patients with metastatic cancer living in rural 
        Pennsylvania and rural West Virginia,\48\ as well as a project 
        leveraging community pharmacists to enhance provision of 
        smoking cessation services for people who smoke in rural 
        Appalachia.\49\
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    \48\ reporter.nih.gov/search/ztocNZSo1EOhnbaYLRlgUQ/project-
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  --Also in February 2024, NCI established the Working Group in Support 
        of Efforts to Enhance Community Cancer Research and Quality 
        Care through NCI's Board of Scientific Advisors. The Working 
        Group includes experts from across the country, including other 
        Federal agencies, and is charged with providing guidance on 
        ways to increase community capacity to conduct cancer research 
        and provide high-quality cancer care--across every community 
        oncology clinic and every patient across the nation. One of the 
        things this group will do is look at best practices of 
        institutions that participate in the National Clinical Trials 
        Network and NCORP.
    NCI remains committed to ensuring cancer research advances reach 
all communities, including rural communities, and that cancer research 
efforts, including clinical trials, are conducted in rural communities. 
NCI will continue to pursue these opportunities through a variety of 
appropriate research mechanisms, including NCI-designated cancer 
centers, NCI clinical trials networks, rural cancer control research 
projects, and other emerging research opportunities.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator John Boozman
    Question. As you know, the University of Arkansas for Medical 
Sciences is working on getting designated as an NCI cancer center. If 
they're able to do so, it'll be the first and only NCI-designated 
cancer center in the state--which would be significant. However, this 
goal may still take several more years to accomplish, and in the 
meantime, I think it is vital that Arkansans can participate in cancer 
clinical trials--especially without having to travel long distances to 
do so, given the rural nature of the state.
    What is NCI doing to support clinical trial capacity at the 
community level?
    How do we ensure that Americans, regardless of where they live, can 
participate?
    Answer. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) Cancer Centers Program 
\50\ represents a substantial commitment to supporting breakthrough 
approaches to preventing, diagnosing, and treating all types of 
cancers. The program currently supports 72 NCI-Designated Cancer 
Centers, in 36 states and the District of Columbia; there are 57 
Comprehensive Cancer Centers, 8 Clinical Cancer Centers, and 7 Basic 
Laboratory Cancer Centers. The NCI-Designated Cancer Centers are 
recognized for their scientific leadership in laboratory and clinical 
research, in addition to serving their communities and the broader 
public by integrating training and education for biomedical researchers 
and healthcare professionals. These centers dedicate significant 
resources toward developing research programs, faculty, and facilities 
that will lead to better and innovative approaches to cancer 
prevention, diagnosis, and treatment. NCI supports the research 
infrastructure for designated cancer centers to advance scientific 
goals and foster cancer programs that draw together investigators from 
different disciplines.
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    The NCI Office of Cancer Centers \51\ (OCC) consults on a regular 
basis with cancer centers such as the University of Arkansas for 
Medical Sciences (UAMS) planning a first-time application for NCI 
designation. The timeline for attainment of the designation varies 
greatly, depending on the status of the center at the time of initial 
contact with OCC. If the center needs to both build the research base 
and address other essential characteristics prior to application, the 
process may easily take a decade or more, depending on resources 
available, leadership, and other factors. If it already has significant 
cancer research funding, and needs only to refine its organizational 
capabilities, the process may take only a few years. The OCC is pleased 
to continue working with UAMS on this process and recognizes the 
opportunity that UAMS has to improve services for medically 
underserved, rural populations in their catchment area.
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    NCI remains committed to providing access to cancer clinical trials 
to communities throughout the United States, including those with rural 
and underserved populations. In addition to the NCI-Designated Cancer 
Centers, the NCI Community Oncology Research Program (NCORP) is a 
national network that brings cancer clinical trials and care delivery 
studies to people in their own communities. NCORP is part of NCI's 
National Clinical Trials Network (over 2,200 sites across the United 
States) and is comprised of 7 Research Bases and 46 Community Sites, 
one of which serves Arkansas by providing access to NCI-supported 
cancer clinical trials and research studies. Fourteen of these 
community sites are designated as Minority/Underserved (M/U) Community 
Sites. NCORP covers 41 states, as well as the District of Columbia, 
Puerto Rico, and Guam. NCI-supported trials are available in every 
state, not limited to NCI-designated centers.
    NCI clinical trials networks reach across the country and make this 
possible, with a specific focus on bringing cancer clinical trials to 
rural populations. More than 150 NCI-supported trials are available in 
Arkansas, including at the University of Arkansas for Medical 
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    Activities to increase access to cancer screening and treatment in 
rural regions are also often part of NCI-Designated Cancer Centers' 
Community Outreach and Engagement (COE) efforts, depending on the 
catchment area of the Cancer Center. COE activities are evaluated as 
part of Centers' applications for NCI designation. NCI's Center to 
Reduce Cancer Health Disparities (CRCHD) supports several initiatives 
to improve research capacity and cancer care among traditionally 
underserved populations, including those in rural areas.
    In February 2024, NCI also launched the Virtual Clinical Trials 
Office Pilot Program to address the decline in participation in NCI-
funded clinical trials that is due, in part, to clinical trials 
staffing shortages that were exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic. NCI 
is optimistic that by providing support through a centralized team of 
remote support staff--including research nurses, clinical research 
associates, and clinical data specialists--eventually all clinical 
practices, regardless of their scope, patient population, or location, 
will benefit from the lessons learned during this pilot. Six 
institutions across the United States with various geographical 
settings and clinical practice characteristics have been selected to 
receive virtual clinical trials staffing from NCI for the initial phase 
of the pilot program.
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        Questions Submitted to Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo, M.D., M.P.H.
          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
Rural Access to Infectious Disease Clinical Trials
    Question. The national clinical trials infrastructure often 
excludes health facilities that serve communities that are typically 
underrepresented in studies, including individuals in rural and 
sparsely populated areas. What more needs to be done to increase access 
to infectious diseases clinical trials in rural communities?
    Answer. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases 
(NIAID) conducts and supports basic and applied research to better 
understand, treat, and prevent infectious, immunologic, and allergic 
diseases, including in communities underrepresented in clinical 
studies. NIAID's rural health-related research and activities support 
this mission. Many of these activities aim to increase access to care 
for rural residents and help improve the quality of their lives. For 
example, NIAID--in collaboration with other National Institutes of 
Health (NIH) Institutes and Centers--has helped establish and maintain 
the national clinical trials infrastructure needed to serve communities 
that are typically underrepresented in HIV research.
    In support of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) 
Ending the HIV Epidemic in the U.S. (EHE) initiative, NIAID in 
collaboration with the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) 
supports implementation science research that focuses on expanding and/
or improving engagement and re-engagement in HIV prevention, testing, 
treatment, and care services. A major component of this activity 
involves deploying innovative community-based prevention strategies 
directed toward populations at an increased likelihood of HIV largely 
unreached by current programs, including people living in rural or 
medically underserved areas, or people and communities experiencing 
clusters and outbreaks. These research projects, supported through 
administrative supplements to the NIH Centers for AIDS Research (CFARs) 
and NIMH AIDS Research Centers (ARCs), focus on 57 priority geographic 
areas, including seven states (Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, 
Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, and South Carolina) with a substantial 
number of HIV diagnoses in rural areas.
    To date, NIAID and NIMH have funded over 45 projects in these 
states, with several projects explicitly focusing on addressing 
barriers to engaging rural populations. NIAID funds two CFARs located 
in these seven states: the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) 
CFAR and the new Midwest Developmental CFAR (D-CFAR) at Washington 
University in St. Louis, Missouri. Both CFARs have established 
scientific working groups to address the needs of their rural 
communities. The UAB ``Ending HIV in Alabama Scientific Working Group'' 
was created in 2017 to promote interdisciplinary research through: (1) 
the development of novel approaches to improve outcomes in HIV 
prevention, testing, linkage to care, retention in care, and viral 
suppression; (2) implementation of evidence-based interventions through 
coordination of interdisciplinary teams; and (3) recruitment and 
mentoring of trainees and early stage investigators in epidemiologic 
and implementation science research aimed at eliminating HIV in 
Alabama. Investigators at the UAB CFAR also are working to identify 
counties in Alabama at greatest risk for an HIV outbreak among persons 
who inject drugs in order to inform implementation strategies to 
integrate person-centered HIV, harm reduction, and addiction services. 
The ``Neglected Populations Scientific Working Group'' at the Midwest 
D-CFAR aims to establish a collaborative community involving academics, 
regional partners, and community-based partners. This collaboration 
will conduct pragmatic, community-engaged, and stakeholder-embedded 
research targeted towards neglected populations affected by HIV. The 
overall goal of these working groups is to improve health services for 
underserved communities.
    In addition, the NIAID-funded North American AIDS Collaborative 
Cohort on Research and Design (NA-ACCORD) added clinical sites to 
assess the disproportionate burden of HIV infection and HIV-related 
morbidity and mortality rate of HIV in the South. These sites, which 
highly represent the sex, race/ethnicity, and HIV transmission risk 
groups, enroll urban, suburban and rural residents. In total, NA-ACCORD 
now features seven sites considered in the ``Deep South'' which 
markedly enhances the ability to assess the HIV epidemic in this 
increasingly important region.
    NIAID will continue to conduct and support clinical research to 
better understand, treat, and prevent infectious diseases, including 
HIV, affecting underrepresented communities such as those in rural 
areas. NIAID also is committed to working with NIH Institutes, Centers, 
and Offices to help maintain the robust national clinical trials 
infrastructure needed to increase access to clinical trials in rural 
communities.
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            Questions Submitted to Dr. Nora D. Volkow, M.D.
            Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin, III
    Question. In 2023 alone, 109,000 Americans died from drug related 
overdoses and more than 76,000 of those deaths involved illicit 
fentanyl and other synthetic opioids. We have lost more Americans to 
drug overdoses since 1999 than the number of American lives lost in 
wars or conflicts since the Civil War, and it is absolutely 
heartbreaking.
    Dr. Volkow, you have been to West Virginia, visited the West 
Virginia University's Rockefeller Neuroscience Institute, and have seen 
first-hand the work being done to study and find treatments for 
substance use disorder.
    How can NIDA continue to support research institutions that are 
studying the science of substance use disorder and working on 
treatments for substance use disorder, especially those working with 
rural populations?
    What are other ways that we can better expand access to substance 
use disorder treatment in rural America, particularly in West Virginia, 
where the overdose rates continue to be some of the highest in the 
nation?
    Answer. Through a variety of NIH funding mechanisms, The National 
Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) continues to fund meritorious 
applications submitted by researchers from diverse institutions to 
maximize its support of research, including researchers who work with 
underserved rural populations. There are also multiple NIH mechanisms 
geared toward increasing research infrastructure. For example, the 
congressionally mandated Institutional Development Award program builds 
research capacity at institutions in states with historically low 
levels of NIH funding, including West Virginia.\53\ NIDA also uses 
novel approaches to bring more institutions that work with rural 
populations into the research enterprise. For example, with funding 
from the NIH Helping to End Addiction Long-term, or the NIH HEAL 
Initiative, NIDA expanded its Clinical Trials Network (CTN) by adding 
five additional research nodes, including the Appalachian Node, a 
collaboration between West Virginia University, University of 
Pittsburgh, and Penn State University.\54\ NIDA is also currently 
participating in two NIH funding opportunities to further increase the 
diversity, breadth, and geographic locations of research 
programs.\55,56\ Together, these efforts aim to encourage research that 
includes underserved rural populations and increases the scientific 
value and impact of research.
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    NIDA acknowledges the vital need to ensure rural access to 
evidence-based interventions and supports substance use research in 
rural communities. The Rural Opioid Initiative (ROI), which is in the 
process of concluding, was a collaboration of NIDA with the Appalachian 
Regional Commission, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services 
Administration (SAMHSA), and the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention (CDC). The researchers supported under this initiative 
worked with state and local health departments to fill data gaps 
regarding the opioid epidemic (including polysubstance use) and 
supported the development and testing of locally focused interventions 
to address overdose and expand access to evidence-based services. These 
efforts included peer-based efforts to increase access to treatment for 
drug use disorders and Hepatitis C, development of local infrastructure 
for harm reduction, and establishment of mobile drug use and Hepatitis 
C services. To continue this important work, NIDA recently released a 
funding opportunity in collaboration with SAMHSA focused on drug use 
prevention in rural areas.\57\ Applications are under review now.
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    Telehealth approaches are promising tools to increase access to 
services for people in rural areas. NIDA's Clinical Trials Network has 
conducted research to test ways to expand medications for opioid use 
disorder in rural settings, including a study that tested adding 
telemedicine components to opioid treatment in rural primary care 
clinics.\58\ Additionally, the increased flexibilities in telehealth 
prescribing and take-home doses of medications for opioid use disorder 
during the COVID-19 pandemic allowed research opportunities to 
understand the benefits and risks of expanded telehealth treatment 
access. Studies from NIDA, CDC, and other researchers have shown that 
these enhanced flexibilities were not associated with increases in 
methadone- or buprenorphine-involved overdose deaths and were 
associated with reduced risk for fatal overdose and increased retention 
in treatment.\59,60,61\ NIDA is also funding the development of new, 
longer acting forms of medication for substance use disorders, such as 
once-weekly oral methadone,\62\ that would benefit those in rural areas 
with limited access to treatment clinics.
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    \59\ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35830198/.
    \60\ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36662523/.
    \61\ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36988913/.
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    With funding from the NIH HEAL Initiative, NIDA supports large 
research programs in real-world settings in collaboration with a 
diverse range of partners to ensure that the strategies being studied 
are sustainable and scalable, including studies focused on rural 
populations. The HEALing Communities Study is investigating the impacts 
and challenges of implementing evidence-based strategies to reduce 
opioid-related overdose deaths, increase uptake of medications for 
opioid use disorder, and reduce high risk opioid prescribing in 67 
communities across four states, including in rural areas highly 
affected by the overdose crisis. The Harm Reduction Research Network is 
testing the effectiveness, implementation, and impact of harm reduction 
approaches in rural areas and other communities. As part of the HEAL 
Integrative Management of chronic Pain and opioid use disorder (OUD) 
for Whole Recovery (IMPOWR) program, one study is developing and 
testing interventions for co-occurring chronic pain and OUD to meet the 
needs of people in rural and Black communities.\63,64\ Another HEAL-
funded NIDA study is focused on disrupting social determinants of 
health to improve substance use and mental health outcomes for parents 
in rural regions.\65\ Findings from these studies will provide valuable 
insights into how specific rural communities can increase access to 
interventions for substance use disorder through tailored approaches 
that meet individual and community needs.
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          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
Smoking Cessation
    Question. According to NIDA, addiction to nicotine in tobacco 
remains the most deadly substance use disorder, resulting in more than 
480,000 deaths each year from tobacco-related diseases including lung 
cancer. What role do you see for new safe and effective smoking 
cessation therapies to help patients be more successful in their quit 
attempts? Do we need new tools in the smoking cessation toolkit?
    At a Cancer Moonshot event at the White House last year, you asked 
Dr. Califf what more could be done to bring forward new, more effective 
smoking cessation treatments. What role do you see for product 
innovation to advance more effective smoking cessation therapies for 
patients?
    Smoking cessation products have been on the market for decades. Why 
are patients not more successful in their quit attempts with the 
current FDA approved methods? What do we need to do to change that?
    Answer. There are effective treatments that support tobacco 
cessation, including both behavioral therapies and FDA-approved 
medications; however, fewer than one in ten adults who smoke cigarettes 
succeed in quitting each year.\66\ This is due in part to 
underutilization of existing treatments.
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    Although most people who smoke cigarettes make a quit attempt each 
year, less than one-third use FDA-approved cessation medications or 
behavioral counseling to support their attempts.\6\ In the recently 
published HHS Framework to Support and Accelerate Smoking 
Cessation,\67\ several primary goals aim to address this issue by 
strengthening cessation services and supports and increasing access to 
comprehensive evidence-based cessation treatments. This framework 
provides a unifying vision for the agency to help drive progress 
towards cessation, especially in populations that experience smoking- 
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    Beyond existing treatments, supporting the development of new safe 
and effective strategies for tobacco cessation is an important priority 
for the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to increase the number 
of people who are able to stop smoking. Current NIDA-funded research is 
focused on developing and testing innovative therapeutics and 
behavioral interventions for tobacco cessation to expand the evidence-
based options available to help people. A multi-site randomized 
clinical trial is underway testing psilocybin for smoking 
cessation.\68\ Another study is following up on promising preclinical 
data to examine the effects of a ketamine infusion on craving and 
tobacco cessation in people who smoke.\69\ NIDA-funded researchers are 
also conducting a study using transcranial magnetic stimulation to 
modulate brain circuitry in people with co-occurring tobacco use 
disorder and schizophrenia and test if this treatment helps people to 
decrease or quit smoking.\70\ NIDA has developed a standardized 
research electronic cigarette (SREC) to facilitate clinical research on 
e-cigarettes,\71\ which is allowing high quality studies to be done on 
the impacts of switching from cigarettes to SRECs on use behaviors, 
chemical exposures, and biological effects across a range of 
populations and will inform our understanding of the value of e-
cigarettes as potential cessation interventions.\72,73,74,75\
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    \69\ reporter.nih.gov/search/UWMVimJmYUiKO6pI49-iRQ/project-
details/10371688.
    \70\ reporter.nih.gov/search/xxJjtoaLJkSZ7VmE4C-Ouw/project-
details/10775767.
    \71\ nida.nih.gov/research/research-data-measures-resources/nida-
drug-supply-program-dsp/nida-drug-supply-program-dsp-ordering-
guidelines/nida-standardized-research-electronic-cigarette-srec-for-
clinical-research.
    \72\ reporter.nih.gov/search/MSUv_jmK2k2w0_j2RFALgA/project-
details/10811935.
    \73\ reporter.nih.gov/search/tozXm3VREkyB2cyj4EuvPw/project-
details/9752505.
    \74\ reporter.nih.gov/search/49YSVOqdu0KVzL4TkoabjA/project-
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    Research is also needed to develop cessation therapies for youth, 
since there are currently no FDA-approved tobacco cessation medications 
for this population. To help address adolescent nicotine vaping, NIDA 
is funding a clinical trial testing varenicline to determine if it can 
help adolescents who vape nicotine and want to quit.\76\ NIDA is also 
funding a project developing a brief behavioral activation mobile app 
to help adolescents stop vaping nicotine.\77\ NIDA and the National 
Cancer Institute (NCI) have developed a funding opportunity, 
``Advancing Adolescent Tobacco Cessation Intervention Research,'' \78\ 
to support research that will develop, test, implement, and evaluate 
behavioral tobacco cessation interventions for adolescents, with a 
focus on the critical developmental risk period of mid- to late 
adolescence (approximately 14--20 years old). This funding opportunity 
aims to address the critical need for empirically validated tobacco 
cessation interventions for adolescents.
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    \77\ reporter.nih.gov/search/7QIGg_2Dd0iXuyF V6s4w/project-details/
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            Questions Submitted to Dr. Gary H. Gibbons, M.D.
          Questions Submitted by Senator Shelley Moore Capito
Pulmonary Fibrosis Research
    Question. Pulmonary fibrosis results in the deaths of 40,000 
Americans each year, how is the NHLBI working to strengthen the 
pipeline of pulmonary fibrosis investigators to ensure that there is 
ongoing, robust research into this devastating disease.
    Answer. The National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) 
supports a robust portfolio of basic, translational, and clinical 
research focused on understanding the causes of pulmonary fibrosis 
(PF), and improving early detection, diagnosis, and treatment outcomes 
across the lifespan.
    NHLBI is harnessing data science and machine learning to drive 
precision medicine for heart, lung, blood, and sleep conditions 
including pulmonary fibrosis. This information will enable us to 
discover new targets for interventions that may improve health outcomes 
for diseases such as pulmonary fibrosis, that has historically had poor 
prognosis. NHLBI's Trans-Omics for Precision Medicine (TOPMed) program 
has assembled one of the world's largest, most diverse collections of 
genomic and multi-omic data, derived from participants in NHLBI-funded 
studies including the Women's Health Initiative, Framingham Heart 
Study, Jackson Heart Study and others.\79\ Through TOPMed, 2,180 cases 
of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPF), the most common type of PF 
which has no known cause, were sequenced and data was tested for 
association focused on the combined effect of rare variants within 
genes or regions. Researchers identified individual rare variants 
within the TERT and RTEL1 genes as high risk factors for IPF and as 
potential new therapeutic targets.\80\ Continued utilization of the IPF 
TOPMed data will yield additional discoveries to advance diagnosis, 
treatment and prevention of this disease.
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    An NHLBI-supported multicenter clinical trial testing the drug 
Setanaxib in patients with IPF holds the potential to shift future PF 
clinical trial design more towards meaningful patient outcomes. This 
drug inhibits nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate (NADPH) 
oxidase (NOX) isoforms, known to play an important role in the 
development of IPF. The trial represents the bedside application of a 
series of NOX translational and basic studies and discoveries, over 
several years, supported by NHLBI. Treatment with Setanaxib could 
result in significant benefit for PF, which currently has limited 
treatment options.
    NHLBI is committed to strengthening a diverse pipeline of future 
researchers in PF to guarantee the future of research in this disease. 
The Institute's workforce development programs offer a myriad of 
mechanisms geared at all careers levels including high school and 
undergraduate level, postbaccalaureate, graduate, doctoral and 
postdoctoral levels, along with early career, mid-career and 
established investigators. Similarly, NHLBI's workforce training 
programs encompass a variety of career development and training 
opportunities.
    The Institute prioritizes support for early-stage investigators 
(ESI's) with initiatives such as the BioData Catalyst Fellows program, 
which provides ESI's with funding opportunities to support research on 
novel and innovative data-science and data-focused research 
programs.\81\ The Institute's Stimulating Access to Research in 
Residency Transition Scholar Career Development program (StARRTS) and 
Mentored Research Scientist Career Development Award support career 
development opportunities for ESI's to accelerate the transition to 
independent careers across heart, lung, blood and sleep 
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    NHLBI's T32 Training Program for Institutions that Promote 
Diversity, which provides research capacity development at institutions 
that do not receive substantial NHLBI funding.\84\
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Heart Disease and Maternal Health
    Question. Cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of maternal 
death, how is the NHBLI addressing maternal health in its research to 
protect women's heart health before, during, and after pregnancy?
    Answer. The maternal mortality rate in the United States is higher 
than in any developed country in the world. In 2021 more than 1,200 
women died of causes related to pregnancy in the United States.\85\ The 
National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) has taken a lead role 
in research to reduce the nation's alarming rates of maternal mortality 
and morbidity. Black women have a three-times greater risk for death 
during pregnancy or childbirth compared to White women.\86\ American 
Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, and other Pacific Islander 
populations also experience increased risk. NHLBI recognizes that 
addressing maternal morbidity and mortality requires a life-course 
approach that focuses on improving women's heart health before, during, 
and after reproductive age.
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    NHLBI is the second largest funder of maternal health studies at 
NIH. Some key programs NHLBI leads and/or has strong involvement in 
include:
  --Nulliparous Pregnancy Outcomes Study: Monitoring Mothers-to-be 
        Heart Health Study (nuMoM2b) studies the effects of pregnancy 
        complications on future cardiovascular health, including links 
        between social factors that correlate with the future heart 
        health of new parents, especially in communities of color.\87\
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    --Women with adverse pregnancy outcomes, such as gestational 
            hypertension, gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, and 
            preterm delivery were more likely to:
      -- Have higher blood pressures, glucose, insulin, and obesity in 
            the first trimester.
      -- Have higher risk of hypertension 2-7 years after delivery.\88\
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  --Early Intervention to Promote Cardiovascular Health of Mothers and 
        Children (ENRICH), which works directly with communities that 
        have a high burden of cardiovascular disease (e.g., low-
        socioeconomic status communities, tribal nations, low- resource 
        areas).\89\
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  --Implementing a Maternal health and PRegnancy Outcomes Vision for 
        Everyone (IMPROVE), which was designed to understand and reduce 
        health disparities among populations disproportionately 
        affected by maternal morbidity and mortality, including African 
        American, American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian American, 
        Pacific Islander, Hispanic/Latina, very young women, older 
        women, and women with disabilities.\90\
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  --Maternal Health Community Implementation Program (MH-CIP), a 
        community-driven initiative studying how evidence-based 
        interventions, such as regular blood pressure readings, can 
        work to improve women's heart health and reduce maternal 
        mortality.\91\
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  --MH-CIP funds four regional coalitions, in areas with high maternal 
        morbidity and mortality, to conduct community-engaged research 
        testing implementation strategies to increase uptake and 
        adoption of proven interventions to improve maternal health and 
        address maternal health inequities.\92\
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  --Chronic Hypertension in Pregnancy (CHAP), which examined the safety 
        of treating mild hypertension during pregnancy, found that 
        treatment for mild chronic hypertension leads to better 
        pregnancy outcomes and has no negative effect on fetal growth. 
        Due to this study, the American College of Obstetricians and 
        Gynecologists changed their clinical practice 
        guidelines.\93,94\
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  --Implementing a Maternal health and PRegnancy Outcomes Vision for 
        Everyone Community Implementation Program (IMPROVE-CIP), the 
        community-engagement arm of IMPROVE, which addresses underlying 
        factors associated with health disparities (e.g., substance 
        use, mental health, social determinants of health).\95\
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    NHLBI will continue to prioritize and advance research efforts in 
pursuit of tackling the current public health crisis in maternal 
health.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Susan M. Collins
    Question. Four years after the start of the COVID pandemic, we 
still have many questions surrounding how to identify and treat Long 
COVID. In 2021, NIH launched the RECOVER Initiative to study Long COVID 
and look for treatments across different types of research studies. I 
have discussed the RECOVER Initiative both with those involved in the 
research, who defend its complexity, and others who are more critical 
due to the time spent defining the symptoms and a delayed emphasis on 
therapeutics. I believe in the NIH's ability to translate research into 
results patients feel on the ground, but I also understand the 
frustration that no ``cure'' or even real treatment has been found. Dr. 
Gibbons, can you describe what research gains RECOVER has made and 
update us on clinical trial efforts?
    Answer. For many, Long COVID is a long-lasting and life-altering 
experience. It presents with hundreds of heterogeneous symptoms that 
vary across the lifespan and demographic groups. The millions of adults 
and children currently struggling with debilitating symptoms of Long 
COVID urgently need proven tools for diagnosis, treatment, and care. 
Within a year of receiving supplemental appropriations for the study of 
Long COVID, NIH designed and launched RECOVER--the world's most 
comprehensive and diverse patient-centered research study to 
understand, treat, and prevent Long COVID. RECOVER is a multi-faceted 
research initiative that includes longitudinal observational studies, 
electronic health record (EHR) studies, pathobiology and tissue 
pathology studies, a mobile health platform, and clinical trials. 
RECOVER created a network of nearly 300 research sites (universities, 
hospitals, clinics) where hundreds of Long COVID researchers across the 
nation are working with nearly 90,000 adult and pediatric research 
participants, conducting medical tests and collecting data and then 
analyzing and sharing the data and results broadly with the research 
community, physicians, patients, and the public.
    RECOVER has already established a comprehensive set of adaptive 
clinical trial platforms that focus on potential causes as well as the 
symptoms deemed most burdensome by Long COVID patients, which are 
collectively testing 13 active interventions for Long COVID. The 
adaptive nature of this platform approach enables the evaluation of 
multiple treatments simultaneously. This advanced methodology enables 
the best treatments to get to patients quicker than traditional trials. 
Interventions not showing promise can be ended and quickly allow for 
more nimble pivots to test new interventions as needed. Three RECOVER-
sponsored clinical trials have started enrolling patients: RECOVER-
VITAL (viral persistence and immune dysregulation) began enrolling in 
July 2023; RECOVER-NEURO (neurologic/cognitive dysfunction, such as 
``brain fog'') in September 2023; and RECOVER-AUTONOMIC (autonomic 
dysfunction, such as racing heart, dizziness, fatigue) in March 2024, 
and two additional platform protocols were released this spring, 
RECOVER SLEEP (sleep disorders, such as excessive sleepiness or 
disrupted sleep) and RECOVER ENERGIZE (exercise intolerance or 
fatigue). The first two of these trials (VITAL and NEURO) are nearing 
completion of enrollment.
    Over the past 2 years, we have learned crucial information about 
Long COVID that is helping patients by informing diagnosis, monitoring, 
and preventive measures, including:
  --The incredibly broad range of clinical symptoms in adults and 
        children, and how these symptoms cluster;
  --Risk factors for developing Long COVID;
  --The impact of viral variants on the risk for and severity of Long 
        COVID;
  --The impact of vaccination on Long COVID;
  --The risk of developing new-onset conditions and/or worsening of 
        pre-existing conditions; and
  --Health disparities in Long COVID.
    As of May 2024, 54 scientific papers have been published or 
accepted for publication, 16 are under journal review, and another 77 
reports are in preparation. Importantly, RECOVER is making its data 
publicly available to other authorized researchers with the hope of 
accelerating discoveries with greater data analyses. In April 2024, the 
first set of secure, deidentified data from RECOVER observational 
research was made publicly available on BioData Catalyst \96\ to 
authorized researchers. The addition of RECOVER data to BioData 
Catalyst, NHLBI's cloud-based data repository, can help investigators 
identify and explore Long COVID connections that may benefit from or 
inform future studies.
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    This large and complex research enterprise is aimed at leaving no 
stone unturned for discoveries in Long COVID. Given the history of 
post-infection conditions, the enormous challenges these conditions 
pose, and the lack of progress for them, the RECOVER Initiative and its 
associated research assets aim to ensure meaningful advances for this 
post-infection condition, and likely others as well.

                         CONCLUSION OF HEARINGS

    Senator Baldwin. And now, the subcommittee will stand in 
recess.
    Dr. Bertagnolli. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:45 a.m., Thursday, May 23, the hearings 
were concluded, and the subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene 
subject to the call of the Chair.]




 
       LIST OF WITNESSES, COMMUNICATIONS, AND PREPARED STATEMENTS

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                                                                   Page

Baldwin, Senator Tammy, U.S. Senator From Wisconsin:
    Opening Statements of 




    Questions Submitted by 





Becerra, Hon. Xavier, Secretary, Office of the Secretary, 
  Department of Health and Human Services........................     1
    Prepared Statement of........................................     6
    Questions Submitted to.......................................    43
    Summary Statement of.........................................     5
Bertagnolli, Dr. Monica M., M.D., Director, National Institutes 
  of Health, Department of Health and Human Services.............   323
    Prepared Statement of........................................   330
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   357
    Summary Statement of.........................................   328
Boozman, Senator John, U.S. Senator From Arkansas, Questions 
  Submitted by 




Britt, Senator Katie, U.S. Senator From Alabama, Questions 
  Submitted by 




Capito, Senator Shelley Moore, U.S. Senator From West Virginia:
    Questions Submitted by 







    Statements of 



Cardona, Hon. Miguel, Secretary, Office of the Secretary, 
  Department of Education........................................    99
    Prepared Statement of........................................   107
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   129
    Summary Statement of.........................................   106
Collins, Senator Susan M., U.S. Senator From Maine, Questions 
  Submitted by 





Durbin, Senator Richard J., U.S. Senator From Illinois, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................   152

Gibbons, Dr. Gary H., M.D., Director, National Heart, Lung, and 
  Blood Institute, Department of Health and Human Service........   323
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   378
Graham, Senator Lindsey, U.S. Senator From South Carolina, 
  Questions Submitted by 




Hodes, Dr. Richard J., M.D., Director, National Institute on 
  Aging, Department of Health and Human Service..................   323
Hyde-Smith, Senator Cindy, U.S. Senator From Mississippi, 
  Questions Submitted by 





Kennedy, Senator John, U.S. Senator From Louisiana, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................   363

Manchin, Senator Joe, III, U.S. Senator From West Virginia:
    Questions Submitted by 







Marrazzo, Dr. Jeanne, M.D., M.P.H., Director, National Institute 
  of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Department of Health and 
  Human Services.................................................   323
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   374
Merkley, Senator Jeff, U.S. Senator From Oregon, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................   236
Moran, Senator Jerry, U.S. Senator From Kansas, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................    75
Murray, Senator Patty, U.S. Senator from Washington, Questions 
  Submitted by 




Rathmell, Dr. W. Kimryn, M.D., Ph.D., M.M.H.C., Director, 
  National Cancer Institute, Department of Health and Human 
  Services.......................................................   323
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   372
Reed, Senator Jack, U.S. Senator From Rhode Island, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................   303
Rubio, Senator Marco, U.S. Senator From Florida, Questions 
  Submitted by 






Schatz, Senator Brian, U.S. Senator From Hawaii, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................    51
Shaheen, Senator Jeanne, U.S. Senator From New Hampshire, 
  Questions Submitted by 



Su, Hon. Julie, Acting Secretary, Office of the Secretary, 
  Department of Labor............................................   253
    Prepared Statement of........................................   259
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   287
    Summary Statement of.........................................   258

Volkow, Dr. Nora D., M.D., Director, National Institute on Drug 
  Abuse, Department of Health and Human Services.................   323
    Questions Submitted to.......................................   375




 
                             SUBJECT INDEX

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                        DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION

                        Office of the Secretary

                                                                   Page

Achieving Academic Excellence....................................   108
Additional Committee Questions...................................   128
Antisemitism.....................................................   125
    and Civil Rights Enforcement.................................   114
Bipartisan Safer Communities Act.................................   116
Boldly Improving Learning Conditions.............................   109
Career and Technical Education...................................   101
Charter Schools..................................................   103
Chronic Absenteeism..............................................   117
College Campus Protests and Antisemitism 







Creating Pathways For Global Engagement..........................   109
Debt Burden......................................................   121
Department of Education Topline Request and Baseline.............   108
Education Research, Assessment, and Statistics...................   111
Elementary and Secondary Education...............................   101
Enforcement of Civil Rights Laws.................................   111
Fostering Diverse Schools Program................................   118
Free Application for Federal Student Aid 






    and Farm Assets..............................................   124
Impact of Title IX Regulations on Females........................   123
Making Postsecondary Education Inclusive and Affordable..........   110
Mental Health 



Postsecondary Education..........................................   100
Public Service Loan Forgiveness..................................   120
Regulations......................................................   105
Rural Education Achievement Program..............................   106
Schools Sharing Gender Status with Parents.......................   123
Student Loan Financial Literacy 




Title IX 



    Regulations..................................................   106
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                DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

                     National Institutes of Health

A Reinvigorated Cancer Moonshot..................................   330
Additional Committee Questions...................................   357
Alzheimer's:
    Research.....................................................   343
    Treatment....................................................   335
Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis....................................   337
ARPA-H Funding...................................................   348
Blood Brain Barrier..............................................   338
Buildings and Facilities.........................................   333
Chronic Pain Treatment...........................................   345
Clinical Trials..................................................   351
    Infrastructure...............................................   339
Data Sharing Across the Research Ecosystem.......................   332
Diabetes.........................................................   356
Drug Overdoses...................................................   356
Future of Scientific Research Workforce..........................   352
Gain of Function Research........................................   349
H5N1 Virus.......................................................   333
IDeA Program.....................................................   340
Impact of Continuing Resolutions.................................   351
Long COVID.......................................................   331
Maternal Mortality...............................................   350
Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander Health Research Office..........   345
NCI Designated Cancer Centers 



NIH Funding Increases............................................   337
Overdose Deaths..................................................   334
Pandemic Preparation.............................................   349
Psychedelic Research.............................................   346
Respiratory Support in Rural Areas...............................   354
Revolutionizing Mental Health with Precision Medicine............   331
Sexual Harassment................................................   341
Strengthening Biodefense.........................................   332
Substance Use Disorders..........................................   355
Tick Borne Illnesses.............................................   343
Ultrasound Slowing Addiction.....................................   335
Use of Emerging Data Methods in Research.........................   347
Women's Health Research..........................................   342
    Across the Lifespan..........................................   331

                        Office of the Secretary

988 Implementation...............................................    20
Abortion 



Additional Committee Questions...................................    43
Advancing:
    Health in Indian Country.....................................    10
    Science to Improve Health....................................    11
Alzheimer's Disease..............................................    40
ARPA-H...........................................................    28
Behavioral Health................................................    23
Cardiovascular Disease...........................................    33
Child Care.......................................................    26
CMS Program Management...........................................    35
Enhancing Long-term Care in All Settings.........................     9
Expanding Coverage and Lowering Health Care Costs................     7
HHS employees....................................................    30
HRSA.............................................................    23
Improving the:
    Customer Experience for the American Public..................    12
    Well-being of Children, Families, and Older Adults...........     9
Insulin..........................................................    36
Jessica Grubb's Legacy Act.......................................    21
Maternal Health 




Medicare Advantage...............................................    31
Opioid Epidemic..................................................    13
Overdose Prevention..............................................    15
Preparing for Future Public Health Threats.......................    10
Provider Relief Funds............................................    41
Return to Work...................................................    29
Rural Health 




Strengthening Maternal Health Outcomes and Reproductive 
  Healthcare Access..............................................     9
Suicide Prevention...............................................    16
Supporting Program Operations and Mission-Critical Infrastructure    11
Telehealth.......................................................    34
Title X..........................................................    37
Transforming Behavioral Health...................................     8
Youth Homelessness...............................................    27
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                          DEPARTMENT OF LABOR

                        Office of the Secretary

Additional Committee Questions...................................   287
Advancing Equity.................................................   262
Apprenticeship Programs..........................................   257
Child Labor:
    Laws.........................................................   271
    Penalties....................................................   274
EBSA and Mental Health Services Enforcement......................   278
Employee Benefits Security Administration........................   255
Enforcing Child Labor Laws.......................................   258
Environmental, Social, and Governance Rule.......................   282
ESG Investment Rule..............................................   256
Healthcare Workers & Workforce Violence..........................   264
Highlights of DOL's Budget Request...............................   287
H-2B Visa Program 



ILAB's Mission...................................................   263
Importance of Skilled Labor......................................   272
Investing in Workforce Training Programs.........................   254
Joint Employer Rule, The.........................................   283
Lack of Senate Confirmed Secretary at DOL........................   280
New:
    Emergency Response Standard..................................   270
    Overtime Rule................................................   281
    Rules Impacting Independent Contractor Status................   256
Occupational Safety and Health Administration....................   255
Overtime Rule Compliance Timeline................................   265
Overtime Rule, The...............................................   265
Presidential Line of Succession..................................   280
Proposed Changes to National Apprenticeship Systems..............   269
Registered Apprenticeship Program................................   254
Salary Imparities in Rural Areas.................................   268
Schedule A Occupation List.......................................   285
Sexual Harassment:
    at FDIC 



    in Federal Government........................................   277
Strengthening Community College Training Grant Programs..........   274
Summary Statement of Hon. Julie Su...............................   258
U.S. Workforce Reduction Impacts & WARN..........................   263
Wage:
    and Hour Division............................................   255
    Theft Prevention.............................................   271
WARN Act.........................................................   264
Women's Bureau...................................................   275
Workforce:
    Protection...................................................   259
    Training Services for VETS...................................   255

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