[Senate Hearing 118-679]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 118-679

                 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, 
                  AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS 
                  FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                                HEARINGS

                                BEFORE A

                          SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

                         COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS 
                            UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                                   on

                           H.R. 8998/S. 4802

   AN ACT MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, 
ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 
                    30, 2025, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES

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                      COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

                   PATTY MURRAY, Washington Chairman

RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois          SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine, Vice 
JACK REED, Rhode Island                  Chairman
JON TESTER, Montana                  MITCH McCONNELL, Kentucky
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire        LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 LINDSEY GRAHAM, South Carolina
CHRISTOPHER A. COONS, Delaware       JERRY MORAN, Kansas
BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii                 JOHN HOEVEN, North Dakota
TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin             JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
CHRISTOPHER MURPHY, Connecticut      SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West 
JOE MANCHIN, III, West Virginia          Virginia
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland           JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico          CINDY HYDE-SMITH, Mississippi
GARY PETERS, Michigan                BILL HAGERTY, Tennessee
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              KATIE BRITT, Alabama
                                     MARCO RUBIO, Florida
                                     DEB FISCHER, Nebraska

                      Evan Schatz, Staff Director
              Elizabeth McDonnell, Minority Staff Director

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 Subcommittee on Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related 
                                Agencies

                     JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon, Chairman

JACK REED, Rhode Island              LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska, Ranking 
JON TESTER, Montana                      Member
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland           MITCH McCONNELL, Kentucky
MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico          SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West 
GARY PETERS, Michigan                    Virginia
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              JOHN HOVEN, North Dakota
                                     DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
                                     KATIE BRITT, Alabama

                           Professional Staff

                           Melissa Zimmerman
                               Ryan Hunt
                              Rishi Sahgal
                            Anthony Sedillo
                             Angela Caalim

                        Emy Lesofski (Minority)
                         Lucas Agnew (Minority)
                         Nona McCoy (Minority)

                         Administrative Support

                       LaShawnda Smith (Minority)

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                                hearings

                       Wednesday, April 10, 2024

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United States Forest Service.....................................     1

                         Wednesday, May 1, 2024

Environmental Protection Agency..................................    51

                         Wednesday, May 8, 2024

Department of the Interior.......................................   105

                         Thursday, May 23, 2024

Indian Health Service............................................   365


          Statements and Letters of Nondepartmental Witnesses

Nondepartmental Witnesses........................................   413

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                              back matter

List of Witnesses, Communications, and Prepared Statements.......   759

Subject Index:

    United States Forest Service.................................   763

    Department of the Interior...................................   763

    Environmental Protection Agency..............................   763

    Indian Health Service........................................   764

 
     DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES 
                  APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                       WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met at 10:00 a.m., in room 124, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Jeff Merkley, chairman of the 
subcommittee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Merkley, Tester, Van Hollen, Heinrich, 
Sinema, Murkowski, Hoeven, and Fischer.

                      UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE

                      STATEMENT OF HON. RANDY MOORE, CHIEF, 
                              U.S. FOREST SERVICE


               opening statement of senator jeff merkley


    Senator Merkley. Good morning, and welcome to the first 
hearing of the Interior, Environments Appropriations 
subcommittee on the fiscal year 2025 President's budget. Chief 
Moore, thank you for being here to present the President's 
budget and discuss a variety of topics important to our States 
and important to the nation.
    As you and the members of this committee know, I continue 
to beat the drum about the dangers of climate chaos. This past 
year, we had the hottest day, hottest month, hottest year in 
human history, and we see the consequences all around us.
    In my home State of Oregon, the average snowpack in the 
Cascades has dropped 20ft in the last 90 years. A lot less 
snowmelt that contributes to the quality of our streams. A lot 
less snowmelt that contributes to the water for our farmers and 
ranchers.
    As droughts have deepened, and temperatures have soared, 
our wildfire season is getting longer and more extreme, and 
then we have the threats of insects and disease making a bad 
situation worse.
    So, we need to do all we can to help make our forests more 
resilient. Over the last 4 years since you became Chief and I 
became chair of this committee, Congress has invested 
significantly in the Forest Service.
    A major focus of these investments has been on restoring 
forest health and reducing the conditions of catastrophic 
wildfires. The Administration's Wildfire Crisis Strategy 
Implementation Plan details how we need to build landscape 
resiliency and cultivate healthy conditions.
    And the annual funding provided by this appropriations 
subcommittee, supplemented by investments from the bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law and the Inflation Reduction Act is making a 
difference. But forest improvements do not stop when a 
particular project is finished. We're touching only a small 
percent of the total number of acres that need to be addressed. 
And of course, the projects we've completed, the forest 
continue to grow on that land.
    I know that you and I share the goal of ensuring our 
forests are healthy and resilient in the face of climate chaos.
    We've put some of the best practices to work, to clear 
undergrowth, to thin stand density, to use prescribed burns to 
reduce individual wildfire events. And I've really seen how the 
attitude towards prescribed burns has changed in our state, 
where folks used to resist smoke on a single day, they now 
would much rather have smoke on a single day or a few days, 
rather than see the threat of their town burning to the ground, 
as happened in six communities in the Labor Day fires of 2020.
    I know my colleague from New Mexico is here. We also have 
to make sure prescribed burns stay on the prescribed landscape. 
And we should learn from the Tribal knowledge and incorporate 
indigenous practices into our maintenance and conservation 
efforts. But forests in the United States, they are way behind 
the benchmarks of where they need to be to withstand 
significant fire activity.
    As we celebrate the investments of the last few years, 
there are still a number of concerns regarding the ability of 
the Forest Service to sustain this work and set the stage for 
long term resiliency. The additional resources provided in the 
bipartisan Infrastructure Law and Inflation Reduction Act, 
those are one time investments, and those funds are running 
out.
    The Legacy Restoration Fund, from which this subcommittee 
allocates $285 million dollars each year to the Forest Service 
for deferred maintenance, expires next year. Over the last 5 
years, these funds have been used to repair roads and bridges 
on our public lands, to provide needed access and assist fire 
response, to renovate employee housing in remote areas for 
seasonal staff and firefighters, and to build and repair other 
facilities related to recreation in our National Forests.
    And then we have accelerating climate chaos. The world is 
not standing still in this regard. And we need to continue the 
Wildfire Suppression Reserve Fund, which expires in fiscal year 
2027. That is quite a few significant headwinds that we are 
facing.
    Turning to the fiscal year 2025 President's budget for the 
Forest Service, I'd note that the budget does not contain grand 
new policy initiatives. That's not a criticism. It's a 
recognition of the budget circumstances in which we are 
operating. But the budget does make an important statement that 
the Forest Service continues to prioritize its workforce, and 
that's important because that workforce is the way that we get 
the projects accomplished.
    We depend on our team members to deliver for the people and 
to deliver for the land. I want the Forest Service to have the 
resources it needs to confront the challenges of building 
forest resiliency in the face of climate chaos.
    I thank you for your dedication, to the people and to the 
mission of the Forest Service, and I am delighted that on this 
subcommittee, I have a partner from Alaska who understands 
these issues from the perspective of growing challenges for the 
forests of her home State. Been a pleasure to work with her, 
and I will turn the microphone over to her.


                  statement of senator lisa murkowski


    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's tough to 
figure out our calendar anymore. Having just completed fiscal 
year 2024, we are now racing into fiscal year 2025, and it is 
the 9th or 10th of April. Anyway, we are where we are.
    Chief Moore, welcome, to the committee. I appreciate this 
opportunity to discuss the President's budget and the role that 
the Forest Service plays in my state, but in the states across 
the country here.
    So, before we get into the budget, the President's budget 
request though, I want to talk a little bit about Christmas, if 
you want to talk about a confused calendar because we are 
excited for Christmas.
    We're excited for the holiday season in Alaska because once 
again, Alaska has been asked to host the Capitol Christmas tree 
that will grace the West Lawn. We were able to do this in 2015. 
Had a magnificent tree that came from the Chugach. I think 
we've all had an opportunity to host the tree, but logistics 
are just a little more complicated coming out of Alaska.
    But we managed to do it beautifully, so well that we were 
asked again. And this year, the tree will not come from the 
Chugach National Forest. It will come from our other great 
National Forest, the Tongass National Forest, a part of the 
state that I grew up in and is an amazing region, rich with 
resources and native cultural histories.
    So, Chief, I want to thank you and your staff for the work 
that you have already done in anticipation of this, working 
with our team, as we identify an extraordinary creation that 
will be here on the Capitol lawn on in some months. It is hard, 
though. It is hard.
    And sometimes I feel it's more than just a little bit 
ironic that we're gonna be able to harvest an extraordinary 
tree from the Tongass, but we can't seem to throw a lifeline to 
the timber industry in the region.
    This Administration--and you and I have talked about this 
many, many times before, and the committee has heard it also, 
but this Administration abandoned the Alaska Specific Roadless 
Rule in favor of reinstating the 2001 National Roadless Rule on 
the Tongass.
    Despite all the data and the analysis that supported the 
Alaska Specific Rule, the Administration has really made it 
near impossible to have a sustainable regional timber economy.
    It was Secretary Vilsack who promised me not only once, not 
only twice, but multiple times, and to my colleagues from the 
state, we were going to see a transition from old growth 
harvesting to harvesting young growth that would allow the 
Tongass to retain a small but a viable timber industry, and 
that transition simply has not materialized. It is more than 
just another broken promise to the residents of Southeast.
    Years of work and collaboration with the agency, 
environmental groups, and Tribes to invest in the promised 
transition has resulted in an all but dead timber program in 
the Tongass. And I certainly have conveyed my frustration. You 
have heard it. But it is frustrating that the Administration 
doesn't seem to agree that the Southeast part of the state can 
have both a healthy forest and a sustainable timber industry.
    I think the Administration can and should do more to 
provide opportunity for the people there of Southeast Alaska. 
Talk about wildfires. You know, we have significant wildfires 
in the state of Alaska. Oftentimes, it is eye popping the 
numbers of acres, hundreds of thousands, millions of acres. But 
they're usually in parts of the state where we have not much 
intersect with human population or property.
    We're seeing that change though in the state. And we have 
had a conversation again to speak about what is happening, as 
we're seeing warmer temperatures. The beetle kill that is 
moving up and around the state, the management decisions that 
are impacting our fire risk. This is significant in so many of 
our communities now.
    So, we pay close attention as my colleagues in the West do. 
I am looking forward to you sharing the wildfire outlook for 
us. Again, we're dealing with issues of drought, of mortality, 
and it just seems to build on that enhanced fire risk. I'm 
hoping that you're going to address how the Forest Service is 
using the major infusion of funding that we've seen in recent 
years aimed at wildfire risk reduction to invest in combating 
the threats to our collective states.
    I do want to note that the continuation of the proposal to 
modernize and reform wildland fire workforce pay is very 
welcome. As you know, in a tight budget environment in fiscal 
year 2024, we made it a point to invest heavily in our wildland 
firefighters.
    We ensured that they do not see a reduction in pay that is 
due to them in fiscal year 2024, but we all know that they're 
are looking for a permanent fix, and I know the authorizing 
committees have been working on this.
    So, I am looking forward to continuing to do what we can on 
the Appropriations side to take care of our frontline 
firefighters as they engage in this very dangerous line of 
work. As I am sure all my colleagues who interact with the 
Forest Service can tell you, there are so, so, so many needs in 
our states beyond wildfire, but oftentimes it is that one issue 
that literally sucks the oxygen out of the room.
    So, we don't want to lose focus on what we do to support 
our robust recreation industry, provide capacity to support 
critical mineral mining projects, broadband access, and of 
course, a timber supply for our withering timber industry. One 
important way we can enhance capacity is to empower Tribes to 
be partners with the Federal Government.
    And again, that is something that I look forward to 
extending conversation on. I do want to stress that what we 
need in our forest is not just capacity for its own sake, but 
rather the right capacity.
    The right workers with the right skills to meet the needs 
of our forest and our communities. So, I'm looking forward to 
hearing your vision of how the President's fiscal year 2025 
budget request will do just that. Now that you have a committee 
here that wants to try to work with you to do good things 
across our country.
    So, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and look forward to the 
testimony this morning.
    Senator Merkley. Chief Moore, we look forward to your 
testimony.


                 summary statement of hon. randy moore


    Mr. Moore. So, Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and 
members of the committee, thank you for the--inviting me today 
to testify, and we're grateful for your continued support.
    The President's budget names three primary goals for us, to 
modernize wildland fire management, sustain investments 
critical to mission, and ensure equitable access and benefits 
to Americans.
    Today, I will share our progress as we put money to work to 
confront serious challenges. I'll share how our work will 
continue to be a sound investment. We directly steward 
approximately 193 million acres of National Forest system 
lands. We reach across boundaries to assist states, Tribes, 
communities, and private landowners to keep millions more acres 
of forest healthy and productive.
    Every American benefits from these forests, directly or 
indirectly. Together, these lands provide basic needs for life, 
clean air, and water, while they contribute to energy 
production and support local economies.
    National Forest alone contribute more than 410,000 jobs and 
$44.3 billion dollars to the GDP. To sustain productivity and 
health, forests must be able to withstand these threats that 
are posed by wildfire, climate change, drought, disease, and 
insects. We invest the resources to act and ensure that they do 
just that.
    Foremost, we provide work to reduce wildfire risk, 
safeguard communities, and create resilient, healthy forests. 
In calendar year 2022, we launched the 10 year wildfire crisis 
strategy, and we have since moved to implement it. Annual 
appropriations, coupled with the historic bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law and Inflation Reduction Act, provided an 
extraordinary opportunity to take bold and strategic actions.
    We did just that. We progressed to deliver on a promise to 
increase pace and scale of our treatments. We're not just 
treating any acres, we're treating in the right acres, in the 
right places, at the right scale.
    We focused initial efforts on 21 priority landscapes within 
Western fire sheds that are at highest risk. They account for 
roughly 80 percent of wildfire risk. These investments are 
paying dividends. Experts roughly reported that $700 billion 
dollars worth of housing and infrastructure are at risk within 
priority landscapes, this includes about $6.5 billion of 
municipal watersheds, which supply drinking water to 12 million 
Americans.
    In the last 2 years, we reduced the average wildfire risk 
to these assets by 8 percent for infrastructure, 8 percent for 
housing, and 12 percent for watersheds. That means we protected 
more than $175 million worth of homes that are at risk.
    In the Stanislaus National Forest, for example, 17 
communities are at lower risk, including the towns of Cold 
Springs and Strawberry. A million socially vulnerable people 
are at less risk. Nearly half of National Forest lands and 
priority landscapes are now considered unlikely to burn at high 
intensity.
    We must remain on course and build on these gains that we 
have seen and that we are seeing. We must also invest in our 
firefighters. We recognize the urgency of investing in a 
permanent and comprehensive pay increase to provide a more 
livable wage, enhance recruitment, and stabilize retention.
    We must also improve housing conditions and provide better 
care for firefighters' physical and mental needs and health. We 
look forward to seeing an end to reports of firefighters living 
in cars, with few benefits and limited mental health care.
    In addition to work to address the wildfire crisis and 
firefighters, we continue to take actions that support access 
and benefits from forests. Visitor use, hunting and fishing, 
energy and minerals development, forest products and livestock 
grazing generate 69 percent of the contributions to the 
economy.
    Thanks to the Great American Outdoor Act funds, we relieved 
some of the pressures from the $8.6 billion maintenance 
backlog. The budget requested $58 million to maintain critical 
recreation services, with a focus on offering welcoming and 
equitable opportunities. We are also making a difference in our 
urban environments.
    The Forest Service and partners are planting and 
maintaining trees in cities and suburbs, where about 84 percent 
of Americans live. Trees combat extreme heat and climate change 
and improve access to nature.
    The 2025 budget returns basic funding to most programs. 
This include forest products, which are vital to sustaining our 
rural economies. This includes sustainable timber supply. We 
know it's a critical component and is part of a complex, market 
driven system.
    And while we don't control markets, we can support industry 
through forest products and wood innovations, which help mills 
adapt and modernize.
    So, in closing, we are fully committed to meeting the 
challenges before us with resources that Congress provides. The 
people of America deserve nothing less than to see their money 
put to work to benefit all. Thank you, and I welcome your 
questions.
    [The statement follows:]
                 Prepared Statement of Hon. Randy Moore
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for inviting me here today to testify on the 
President's fiscal year (FY) 2025 Budget request for the U.S. 
Department of Agriculture (USDA), Forest Service.
    The fiscal year 2025 President's Budget for the USDA Forest Service 
discretionary appropriations totals $6.5 billion for base programs and 
$2.4 billion for the wildfire suppression cap adjustment (through the 
Wildfire Suppression Operations Reserve Fund). The fiscal year 2025 
Budget focuses on three primary areas: modernizing the wildland fire 
management workforce; sustaining the foundational investments critical 
to the mission of the Forest Service; and ensuring equitable access to 
and benefits from the National Forest System.
    America's forests provide timber, clean air and water, forage, and 
energy production. They support local economies through employment, 
trade, recreation, tourism, green jobs, and livestock grazing. They 
host and protect sites and landscapes of high cultural, spiritual, or 
recreational value. These benefits are at risk from wildfires, pests, 
diseases, invasive species, and drought, all of which are exacerbated 
by climate change. It is vital to continue to act now to mitigate these 
threats and protect our resources. Alongside our partners, the Forest 
Service will continue to reduce the risk of catastrophic wildfires to 
communities in FY 2025 through investments in the wildland fire 
management workforce and throughout the high-priority landscapes 
identified within the agency's 10-year Wildfire Crisis Strategy. The 
investments highlighted below reflect services the Forest Service 
delivers through work on National Forests, partnerships with State, 
Private, and Tribal landowners, and our Research and Development 
mission area. These investments enable the Forest Service to restore 
long-term forest health and resiliency across landscapes the American 
people rely-on while ensuring equitable access to the resources on 
National Forest System lands.
    Recent analysis shows that in FY 2022, Forest Service programs and 
work contributed approximately 410,400 jobs (average of annual full-
time, part-time, temporary, and seasonal) and $44.3 billion in Gross 
Domestic Product (GDP). Recreational visitor use, hunting and fishing, 
energy and minerals development, forest products, and livestock grazing 
generated 69 percent of the economic activity. The Forest Service 
continues to be a good place to invest and will maximize every dollar 
invested into our agency, making every dollar work for the American 
people. The citizens we serve deserve nothing less than to see the 
value of their money at work for their benefit.
     the president's fy 2025 budget request for specific priorities
    The following investments align with and enhance the agency's 
efforts to modernize and invest in our wildland fire management 
workforce:

  --The 2025 Budget proposes $2.6 billion for base Wildland Fire 
        Management activities, investing in firefighter compensation, 
        benefits, mental health, and wellbeing, and supporting the 
        objectives of the agency's 10-year Wildfire Crisis Strategy.

    --Provides $216 million to implement a permanent, comprehensive pay 
            increase for the wildland firefighter workforce, providing 
            a more equitable wage, enhancing recruitment, and 
            stabilizing retention.

    --$136 million for additional Federal firefighting capacity (570 
            more permanent firefighters and continued transition to a 
            more full-time workforce) to enable the Forest Service to 
            more effectively meet the demands of the increasingly year- 
            round wildfire season, while improving the work-life 
            balance of firefighters and support personnel.

    --$10 million for mental health and well-being assistance to ensure 
            our wildfire firefighter workforce are supported in 
            managing the mental and physical aspects of their mission.

  --In addition, the Budget proposes $25 million to address the urgent 
        need for suitable employee housing through necessary 
        maintenance and repairs of Forest Service housing units.

    The 2025 Budget proposes to fund the National Forest System at $2 
billion, prioritizing recreation service delivery, climate smart land 
management, forest products, law enforcement, and the Collaborative 
Forest Landscape Restoration Program, while maintaining foundational 
hazardous fuels treatments to reduce wildfire risk:

  --$207 million for Hazardous Fuels Reduction: to return to previously 
        enacted program levels and mitigate wildfire risk on 4.0 
        million acres with a focus on high- priority and high-risk 
        firesheds, building on hazardous fuels funding from the 
        Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and Inflation Reduction Act, and 
        in aligning with the agency's 10-Year Wildfire Crisis Strategy.

  --$58 million for Recreation, Heritage, and Wilderness: to provide 
        critical recreation operations, planning, services, and 
        improvements, with particular emphasis on creating welcoming, 
        sustainable, and equitable recreation opportunities for all 
        Americans with a focus towards underserved and Tribal 
        communities.

  --$41 million for Forest Products: to support the foundational 
        funding needed to maintain the Forest Service's ability to sell 
        timber, which can be a critical component to sustaining local 
        rural communities.

  --$33 million for Vegetation and Watershed Management: to provide 
        support for healthy and resilient watersheds and landscapes, 
        sustain the production of clean and abundant air and water, 
        assist with meeting the Administration's climate goals, and 
        contribute to healthy and productive communities and Tribal 
        Nations.

  --$34 million for Collaborative Forest Landscape Restoration Program: 
        to invest in communities and regions with a collaborative, 
        common purpose in reducing wildfire risk and improving forest 
        health and resiliency.

  --$21 million for Law Enforcement Operations: to provide critical law 
        enforcement response for the prevention, detection, and 
        criminal investigation of violations of Federal laws and 
        regulations for the protection of visitors to National Forest 
        System lands, Forest Service employees, and natural and 
        cultural resources.

  --$1.5 billion for National Forest System Salaries and Expenses: to 
        maintain the workforce needed to support the agency programs 
        critical for forest health and resiliency, which complement the 
        10-Year Wildfire Crisis Strategy.

    Further investments ensure that the Forest Service relies on the 
latest science and technology to deliver results on the ground and for 
the people:

  --$470 million for Information Technology Capabilities: continue 
        modernization of our Information Technology systems that allow 
        the public to better access our services, sustain emergency 
        communication systems, and provide our workforce the tools they 
        need to carry out our conservation mission.

  --$316 million for Forest and Rangeland Research: continue 
        investments in research priorities, with a focus on climate 
        change-related research including reforestation, carbon 
        accounting, and fire and fuels research.

    These investments continue to build on the historic investments 
provided by the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) (Public Law 117-58) 
and the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) (Public Law 117-169). The Forest 
Service will continue to strengthen our long-standing work and 
relationships with States, Tribes, local communities, private 
landowners, and other stakeholders to adapt lessons learned into a 
coordinated and effective program of work to improve the resiliency of 
landscapes and watersheds, reduce wildfire risk, protect and maintain 
infrastructure, support outdoor recreation, establish tree canopy in 
nature-deprived communities, and invest in the reforestation of 
America's impacted landscapes.
    The Forest Service cannot succeed in this work alone, especially 
when addressing the firesheds highest at risk, which are typically in 
multiple ownerships. Through meaningful communication, expanded 
partnerships, and broader community support, the Forest Service will 
increase the use of prescribed fire and other fuel treatments and the 
management of unplanned ignitions to reduce long-term wildfire risks. 
Fortunately, we have decades of experience working through partnerships 
and collaboration based on common values and shared goals across shared 
landscapes as set out over 20 years ago in the National Cohesive 
Wildland Fire Management Strategy.
  ensuring equitable access to and benefits from the national forest 
                                 system
    The Forest Service remains unwavering in its commitment to the 
values of equity, inclusion, and equal opportunities for its employees 
and the public it serves. The Forest Service maintains the intent to 
focus on prioritizing activities that will provide benefits to 
disadvantaged or underserved communities. The Forest Service vows to 
proactively engage in actions that ensure a safe, resilient, and 
harassment-free work culture where employees are treated with respect 
and dignity.
    The Forest Service will continue to invest in actions that 
facilitate access to the vital resources our forests and grasslands 
provide. This effort is twofold. First, we must ensure that those who 
rely on these services and benefits can access those benefits safely. 
Therefore, we are committed to improving the operation and maintenance 
of our extensive infrastructure portfolio that includes buildings, 
dams, communication sites, recreation sites, roads, trails, and 
bridges. Second, to carry out this work effectively, the Forest Service 
is committed to continued intentional internal and external engagement 
with Tribal Nations and communities that live by, visit, and depend on 
national forests. The Forest Service is committed to identifying and 
removing barriers to access Forest Service programs and services for 
historically underserved communities. This will be done by integrating 
equity-centered criteria in the design, funding, and prioritization of 
all policies, programs, and activities to center equity considerations 
as part of the decision process. The Forest Service will also work to 
remove barriers and boost economic opportunities through improved 
access to contracts, grants and agreements, and permits.
               leveraging additional funding authorities
    It is expected that by FY 2025, much of the funding from the IRA 
will have been invested, but along with the tools and investments 
proposed in the FY2025 Presidents Budget, the Forest Service will 
continue to leverage funding within the BIL to combat climate change 
and confront the wildfire crisis, create new markets and technology for 
wood products, and restore forest health and resiliency through 
partnerships and collaboration across landscapes.
    The BIL provided $1.4 billion for hazardous fuels treatments, while 
the Inflation Reduction Act provided an additional $1.8 billion for 
hazardous fuels work within the wildland urban interface. In February, 
we announced $500 million for FY 2024 to expand work on the Forest 
Service's strategy to reduce the risk to communities, critical 
infrastructure and forests from the Nation's growing wildfire crisis. 
From 2022-2024, we have invested a combined $1.6 billion in the 21 
high-priority landscapes identified under the agency's 10-Year Wildfire 
Crisis Strategy as we continue moving these landscapes towards a 
maintenance state. These investments will help reduce the risk of 
wildfire to communities, Tribal lands, ecosystems, and critical 
infrastructure, including utility corridors and public water sources. 
Our work under the 10-Year Wildfire Crisis Strategy provides many 
values the public depends on and cares about including beginning to 
reduce risk to approximately 550 communities, of which 475 are 
underserved; 2,500 miles of power lines; and 1,800 municipal 
watersheds.
    Through Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) (Public Law 116-152) 
funding, the Forest Service continues to repair and upgrade vital 
infrastructure and facilities in the National forests and grasslands 
through the National Parks and Public Land Legacy Restoration Fund 
(GAOA- LRF). In both FY 2024 and 2025, increased emphasis was given to 
using GAOA-LRF funding to address deferred maintenance on Forest 
Service-owned housing units as one step towards helping our employees 
confront the housing availability and affordability crisis in this 
country. In addition to the $40 million Congress approved in FY 2024, 
we are proposing another $30 million in housing-related GAOA-LRF 
projects to address this critical need. It is estimated that in FY 
2025, GAOA-LRF projects at FS will contribute 3,200 jobs and $360 
million in GDP.
    In closing, the President's FY 2025 Budget request for the Forest 
Service proposes a landmark investment that reflects the 
Administration's ongoing commitment to building and sustaining a robust 
and resilient Federal wildland fire management workforce, maintains 
funding priorities for risk-based wildfire reduction, and improves 
overall access to and utilization of our National Forests System. The 
FY 2025 Budget request also highlights the importance of restoring and 
creating resilient landscapes, improving infrastructure, and removing 
barriers to access. We look forward to working with this subcommittee 
to fulfill the President's goals and our key responsibilities for the 
long-term benefit of the Nation's forests and grasslands, and for all 
Americans. I will be glad to answer your questions.

    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Chief Moore. And the 
first question I wanted to put forward is related to mass 
timber.
    In the fiscal year 2024 bill, we have the comment that the 
committee believes the service should be an exemplar in using 
mass timber building materials and require the use of mass 
timber in the construction, renovation, or repair of its 
facilities.
    The mass timber movement has really increased the ability 
to build buildings of multiple stories with timber rather than 
with concrete and steel, and so we are sequestering carbon 
rather than spending a lot more energy because concrete and 
steel are very energy intensive.
    Also, the buildings are very beautiful, they are more 
earthquake resistant, and they can be put up a lot faster. So, 
with all those advantages, we would literally like to see the 
Forest Service lead the way in using these materials. In some 
parts of the country, the building codes haven't changed and 
have created an obstacle.
    We've certainly changed them in Oregon and a number of 
other States, but those building codes don't apply on Federal 
land. Can you help lead the Forest Service into being kind of a 
driver of the mass timber movement, given all those advantages?
    Mr. Moore. Thank you for the opportunity, Senator, to 
respond to that question. And the short answer, of course, is 
yes.
    We feel that we are also making huge contributions for this 
area. In fact, my staff has informed me that looking at where 
we currently are and for this year, there is well over 2,000 
buildings that have been built, designed, or being designed 
using cross laminated timber.
    I would have you know that our forest products laboratory 
out of Madison, Wisconsin has been really one of the leading 
researchers on using this kind of technology, and we have been 
working with other companies like Woodwork and others to help 
push this issue of mass timber or cross laminated timber, those 
types of new technologies.
    So, we feel pretty good that we are responding. We have a 
lot of great partnerships. To give you an example of one of 
these successes that we would like to for you to consider, if 
you don't already know, we have actually the tallest building 
in the world right now using cross laminated timber that is in 
Milwaukee, Wisconsin and it is 26 stories high.
    And we think that this type of technology is going to 
continue to refine itself. Now, one of the challenges we have, 
and our researchers are working on this, is being able to use 
low value, small diameter material to use in these products.
    And so, that science is being perfected now, but it is not 
where it needs to be the same--particularly in terms of the 
large, commercial graded timber and lumber.
    Senator Merkley. Okay. Well, I am very glad to hear that. I 
am going to follow up to get more of a comprehensive report 
from your team on the uses in Forest Service buildings and the 
planned uses.
    And one of the advantages is that you can use small 
diameter. In fact, there is no reason not to use small 
diameter. So, it works very well with second growth forests and 
repeated harvesting on a multi-decadal cycle. Shifting gears, 
we have seen a number of sawmills close or prepare to close in 
Oregon this last year. I have a list of five of them. And the 
supply of timber is often cited as a significant factor.
    And one of the--there is multiple things that are going 
into this. One of these is, from some of our fires, we had big 
surges in salvage logging, which then may be wrapped up. We 
also have private timber companies that are shipping a lot of 
logs to China and to Japan.
    But does the Forest Service in its role--there's a 
partnership with the sawmills--kind of analyze the flow of logs 
and can help us gain insight on these various dynamics as we 
try to preserve these local sawmills.
    Once you have to carry the logs a longer distance, that is 
a big problem. And, of course, one of the reasons that I have 
been really supportive of forest management is that one, it 
makes our forest more resilient to fires, but it also supplies 
a steady supply of saw logs to the local mills and other 
cellulose.
    One mill owner said it's like we are weeding the woods, and 
he's producing like three or four different products from small 
scrap of wood, including pellets that are shipped over to Asia 
to burn.
    Anyway, the core question here is, does the Forest Service 
kind of track and analyze the flow of wood with these various 
influences as it tries to ensure this partnership with local 
sawmills is sustained and the sawmills stay open?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. Senator, the BIL and IRA, by the way, have 
really allowed us to increase the number of large scale 
contracts and agreements that we feel will provide increase 
availability of wood and wood products in the--for the long 
term. Now, while timber supply and some of the changes in the 
types of wood that is available now has created some concerns, 
there's other factors that are in play.
    The forest product industry, for example, and the 
associated mill and infrastructure, they're facing a set of 
what I would consider to be really complex challenges. The 
example that I use is over the last 20 years, the pulp industry 
has experienced a significant decrease in demand for paper 
products while moving toward a much higher proportion of 
recycled feedstock.
    And when you look at some of these shifts and changes that 
are taking place, I think our role, and we have been working 
with a lot of our partners, is to really create opportunities 
through wood innovations. Because when you look at National 
Forests, and when you look at the majority of products that 
come off National Forests, it is by and large small diameter, 
low value material. Now, that material still has a use.
    And so, how do we transition, I have to come to transition 
from not only just commercial saw logs, but also being able to 
use this material for things like what you've mentioned, cross 
laminated timber, nano cellulose material that strengthens 
products. How do we look at, you know, other, concerns like 
biochar, biofuel, and some of these types of things that are 
taking place across the country.
    And then there is market driven conditions that are taking 
place across the country. You know, if you look at the price of 
lumber right now, it is pretty low. When you look at what the 
Forest Service is doing, in many of our locations, we have wood 
that we have sold that has not been cut.
    And I think market conditions are driving a lot of those 
types of things. And so, the timber industry right now have a 
lot of concerns, a lot of complex issues, and they are 
legitimate.
    But I can tell you with certainty that if we do not have a 
vibrant timber industry, we are not going to be able to manage 
our forest and make them healthy and resilient. So, it's in all 
of our best interest to work together as partners.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Chief. Senator 
Murkowski.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that--those 
questions. And thank you, Chief, for the very final comment 
that you said right there. You said that if we don't have 
viable timber harvest in our National Forests, you know, this 
whole thing just--it doesn't work, right, if we are going to 
manage them properly.
    And I've just listened carefully to your statement that you 
have provided here at the table, and I think I only heard you 
mentioned the word timber a couple times. You said specifically 
forest products includes a sustainable timber supply.
    We get that. But in your written testimony, you mentioned 
the word timber twice, and maybe I am just--maybe I am just a 
little too focused on the words this morning. But we can't get 
to forest products, we can't get to the management, unless we 
acknowledge and accept that these trees, this renewable 
resource that is on these great public lands, that there is a 
use for them, a very important use for us.
    But also, if we fail to manage them, there are 
consequences, and we see those consequences play out more and 
more as we are seeing the catastrophic loss to property, to 
human life when we see these major fires coming through so many 
parts of the country.
    And so, I want to just ask a little more specifically in 
terms of what role you see the timber program playing in the 
Forest Service for the long term here. Because the fear that I 
have, you have got this old growth conservation plan, you have 
the comments that Senator Merkley has made--bless you--about 
your small sawmills.
    What you are gonna have is you are gonna to have the 
industry, the folks that have been kind of hanging on by their 
fingernails, who do not see enough timber coming to them, so 
they close their shops.
    And we can talk about thinning, we can talk about forest 
products, but if we don't have a viable industry out there 
then--you don't expect the Federal Government to be in the 
sawmill business necessarily.
    So, how do we marry this all up? Because I am concerned 
that Forest Service has gone from the mission and the focus of 
multiple use, including timber harvest that can help these 
communities. And you spent a lot of time in your written 
testimony talking about the--ensuring equitable access and 
benefits to the National Forest system.
    And I've got all of my communities that sit in the Tongass, 
whether it's Ketchikan or Craig, going all the way up to 
Yakutat. Those communities are suffering economically because 
we're not seeing any harvest. And I am not talking big stuff 
now.
    And you and I know that because we have ratcheted back so 
far under the policies not only of this Administration, but of 
other Administrations as well, to the point where there is 
nothing there.
    So, how do we balance all that? That's a rambling question 
to a very important--a rambling set up for what I hope you will 
share with me as to what role you see the timber program 
playing in Forest Service policy going forward.
    Mr. Moore. So, thank you, Senator Murkowski. And I 
understand what you are saying. You know, it's a question that 
I think all of us have to sit down and talk about, and it goes 
back into the history.
    And I'll just go back as far back as 1986 to 1989, where 
timber that was provided off National Forest was--represented 
about 17 percent of all the timber that was managed across this 
country. Today, it is somewhere around 3 to 4 percent. And when 
you look at the conditions on the landscape, that have changed 
over time.
    And you look at the largest land use shift that we have in 
this country, which is wildland urban interface areas, you have 
a lot of communities that have built homes and communities into 
the wildland interface.
    And so, now there's a basic question that I think we are 
trying to respond to is that, should we be moving to protect 
communities from wildfire. And I think the answer is yes. But 
when you look at the wildfire crisis strategy and what it's 
trying to focus on, it's doing that.
    Now, the type of material that you have generally, 
generally is small diameter kinds of things. And so, when you 
remove that, it's not as much biomass or it's not as much 
material in the smaller trees than what we have historically 
had, and we're cutting back in the 80s and before.
    And so, what I think we have a duty to do--and I say we. I 
am talking about us, but I am also talking about industry, and 
I am talking about all the communities we serve, is how do we 
transition the industry to take more of the type of materials 
that we have in abundance.
    And that is why under the BIL and IRA, we have been 
investing quite a bit in wood innovation so we can help 
transition more towards some of the type of material that we 
have in abundance.
    And I keep going to the small diameter, low value kinds of 
material, but we are creating products out of it through our 
scientists and working with other partners and universities. 
And I talked about the nano cellulose material. For example----
    Senator Murkowski. Before you get into the technology, 
because I get where you are going there and I understand that 
we need this technology to address some of the lower value, 
younger growth.
    But you still have significant forests around this country, 
National Forests around this country, that are not that lower 
value, but that are dead or dying because they're old, because 
they have been subjected to disease, and are presenting a 
threat to this wildfire.
    Now, I'm not suggesting that the answer is just to go out 
there and clear cut it. But what you've just said to me is that 
Forest Service role here is more from a timber management role, 
to one where it is designed to protect from wildfire, which if 
that's really what you think Forest Service role or mission is, 
I think that that's a different approach.
    Mr. Moore. Yeah. No, that's not it. But it is a basic 
question that I think need answering because we only have so 
much capacity to go in either one of those directions, or you 
just balancing both needs.
    Senator Murkowski. Yes. Why does it have to be an either, 
or? I think you have got a compatibility. You have the ability 
to be able to harvest sustainably, while at the same time 
protecting your communities from threat. I don't think it 
should be viewed as an either, or. And if that's the way we're 
structuring things, I think that's a risk to us.
    Mr. Moore. Yes, of course it is. And its different all 
across the country. And so, what you may be seeing in Alaska is 
different than what I see in Utah.
    Senator Murkowski. Sure. Sure.
    Mr. Moore. And so, how do you balance all of those 
differences, the diversity across the country. And when I look 
at--I mean, I'll give you an example of dead and dying trees 
and how when we have been working with the logger to market 
that type of material, the kind of creativity that's coming 
out.
    So, there on the Manti-La Sal National Forest, as an 
example, a lot of dead and dying trees, which most of your 
lumber companies, timber companies don't have a use for that. 
But they started working with this one logger to look at how do 
you market this dead and dying material, and they've created a 
market.
    Just to give you an example, before it didn't have much of 
a timber sale program. Now, timber sales is in excess of 300 
million board feet on that small forest. It's because they've 
created a use for small diameter, low value type material and 
dead and dying trees that we didn't have before.
    And so, I think the solution is really to engage the 
community and finding uses for the type of material that we 
have geographically across the country. I think that's where we 
can be successful.
    So, what I would do in Alaska may be different than what I 
would do in Utah, or vice versa. And that's what we trying to 
do, is how do we engage the community into helping us make some 
of these decisions where we have been traditionally making 
those decisions. Because I think the best solution is working 
with the communities and our partners.
    Senator Murkowski. I want to defer to my colleagues because 
I have exceeded my time, but I would certainly urge you to 
engage with the Southeast Alaska communities who, again, see a 
great resource, a renewable resource, and want the ability to 
not only provide that value, but also see the economic value to 
the region. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We come back for second 
rounds and thirds.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much. Senator Heinrich.
    Senator Heinrich. Chief, I want to follow up on Ranking 
Member Murkowski's question. What I am not--in that individual 
case to the Manti-La Sal, what is the use case for the low 
value, dead and dying timber that they are taking off the 
forest?
    [Inaudible.]
    Mr. Moore. So, they were--in one case, they worked out a 
contract with this unintelligible company, where you sell fire 
wood at some of these gas stations. That is one of the 
opportunity there.
    So, there is a lot of different uses for the type of wood, 
and that's where we have worked with the local community to 
market the type of material that is in that whole community.
    Senator Heinrich. Yes. I think that makes a lot of sense, 
given the geographic diversity of our forests and the fact that 
we all have this issue of--the biggest challenge is the 
economics of trying to take small diameter wood out of the 
forest that we don't have the money to extract.
    And so, I think the more focus you can put on that in many 
of our states, the more we will see the forest condition 
improve as a result.
    You and I met last September with Director Chuck Sams from 
the National Park Service, to talk about how to prevent the--
prevent cattle from grazing allotments on the Santa Fe National 
Forest from trespassing on to the Valles Caldera National 
Preserve and damaging the sensitive trout streams across the 
Northern portion of that preserve.
    That's been an ongoing problem. It's something I get 
complaints about all season long. What progress has been made 
on that problem since our meeting 6 months ago?
    Mr. Moore. So, Senator, Director Sams and with the National 
Park Service have talked about this and we have talked through 
the issues and we've basically committed to work together. So, 
the question was, well what's the result of that?
    And so far, the results have been the same, because we 
can't seem to get beyond where we are. One of the challenges we 
have, and the problem we are having is where the fence is 
located around forested areas, every winter, you know, trees 
fall and just break the break fence down.
    I do think that if we could pursue a hardier type fence, 
that would be more of a solution, but neither of us have the 
funding to provide the type of fence, say like the pole fence 
or something like that, that would provide a lot of stability 
and it would harden that fence line.
    Senator Heinrich. Well, its good that you are in front of 
the Appropriations committee then. I will be more than happy to 
work with you on a pipe and cable fence that can survive the 
winters out there. But what I would ask of the Forest Service 
is for the Forest Service and the Park Service together, 
together to take responsibility for the maintenance of that 
infrastructure and of any of the infrastructure we build to 
maintain that separation between the park and the forest. Is 
that something you are willing to commit to?
    Mr. Moore. Of course I am.
    Senator Heinrich. Okay. Thank you. That's progress. FEMA 
recently awarded a $1.9 million dollar grant to the state of 
New Mexico for watershed planning in the Hermits Peak Calf 
Canyon burn area.
    I want to ask if the Forest Service will participate in 
that planning process, cause we need to make sure so that the 
watershed plan can incorporate the flood risk for local 
communities from the damaged watersheds on the National Forest.
    Mr. Moore. Senator, yes, we would participate in that.
    Senator Heinrich. I appreciate that very much. We talked a 
little bit earlier about the backlog of infrastructure that you 
are seeking to address through the Great American Outdoors Act 
(GAOA). Can you elaborate a little more on the progress that 
you have made utilizing Great American Outdoors Act funds to 
reinvest in Forest Service infrastructure?
    Cause I know earlier that was a struggle for the Forest 
Service. And so, if you are doing better, I would love to know 
specifically where you're making progress, and are we going to 
get to where you are utilizing the full funds that we 
authorized?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. So, Senator, we are making some progress. 
The challenge that we really having, though, is that deferred 
maintenance is such a huge backlog that it's hard to make a 
dent in the amount of money that we have gotten through GAOA.
    But now, if we had not gotten the dollars through that, we 
would not have been able to do this. And I'll give you an 
example. We have $8.6 billion dollars worth of deferred 
maintenance. Every year we have more going into that.
    And we've estimated that it would take about $1 billion 
dollars a year to handle all of the deferred maintenance that 
we have. Now, we have been allocating roughly $285 million 
dollars or so from GAO monies to get at that backlog and that 
has been very helpful. So, thank you for your support and for 
this committee's support in providing those funds.
    But $8.6 billion dollars is a lot to try and get a handle 
on without a lot of additional resources, but we are doing it. 
We took our time with GAO monies, and we've had a lot of public 
meetings so that we could invite the public into helping us to 
decide how we would develop criteria to address this issue.
    And so, where we focused on was high public use areas, and 
we have a lot of support in the different communities because 
our criteria was based on those high public touched areas. And 
so, that's been our focus.
    Senator Heinrich. I think that's been a good focus. You 
know, we've seen that any closed infrastructure in National 
Forests is an economic limiter to these rural communities. So, 
if you have a campground that's closed, if you have 
recreational facilities that are closed, that has a direct 
impact on the gateway communities.
    And so, I very much support that focus. Last question, 
cause I am running out of time here. I know you've requested 
funding for 570 new full time firefighters, but we also 
recognize that we are not adequately compensating firefighters, 
even with the changes that have been made.
    We need to do more. Do you believe that you'll actually be 
able to find 570 new hires under the current conditions?
    Mr. Moore. I believe so. We are certainly moving into the 
hiring season with every intention of reaching that goal. You 
know, the challenge for us as it relates to a firefighter it's 
just a couple of things.
    One, that the trust is low that the pay bump will be 
permanent. And so, there's a lot of hesitancy within the 
agency. What we are also finding, though, is that when you have 
an employee who has worked 15 to 20 years, and when that person 
leaves, we've lost about anywhere between $1 and $2 million 
dollars investment in that person to get them up to speed where 
they are.
    And so, when you lose that kind of investment, it's just a 
continuous cycle of bringing new people in trying to get their 
proficiencies levels up to where that 15 to 20 year employee 
was at. So, its a real challenge for us, and that's what we're 
facing now.
    Senator Heinrich. I think that really raises for us, 
chairman, the challenge we have, which is we need to make these 
changes permanent. We need to address the housing challenges, 
the mental health challenges, and send the signals to these 
wildland firefighters that we value them and that that's going 
to be more than talk. It's going to be real resources.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Senator Murray.
    Senator Murray. Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 
Chief Moore, really glad to have this opportunity to hear about 
what you need for the Forest Service really important work. 
Like so many visitors, each year, I love the beauty of our 
National Forests in Washington State.
    We have the Olympic, the Okanogan, Wenatchee, Gifford 
Pinchot, Colville, and they're all amazing. They really are a 
national treasure, but they are also home to keystone species, 
including salmon, which are so important to my state. They are 
a resource in so many ways to our Tribes and to our 
communities, and they are part of our history.
    One of the first big businesses in Seattle was actually 
selling lumber to build cities across the West Coast. So, I 
really believe that we have a responsibility to not just manage 
our forest resources, but to maintain these for generations to 
come. And that means investing in our forests.
    Because if we shortchange them, there is not enough money 
in the world to restore forests if we fail to protect them now. 
I really don't want future generations hearing about the 
forests that we once had, or the trees that once stood really 
tall, or the salmon that once swam in their rivers. I want to 
make sure we pass those riches on to our kids and grandkids 
intact.
    And that means making sure that our Forest Service has the 
funding it needs to help preserve the public land in its care, 
to work with our communities, to be good stewards of our 
natural resources, and prevent and respond to threats like 
wildfire.
    And when it comes to wildfires, I am especially focused on 
making sure that we extend the fire fix and address the 
underfunding challenges that we have had for that work. So, 
first of all, thank you for your recent investments in Central 
Washington Initiative, which is delivering IRA wildfire risk 
reduction funding to the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest.
    That forest has hundreds of thousands of acres that need 
forest restoration and wildfire risk reduction work. It 
contains communities with some of the highest wildfire risks in 
the nation. And I have heard from my constituents there that 
they're concerned about staff turnover, especially among senior 
leaders in Washington State, which will really inhibit projects 
like the Central Washington Initiative.
    What are you doing to stabilize staffing, especially among 
senior leaders, and reduce that turnover?
    Mr. Moore. Thank you, Senator Murray. And I had a chance to 
visit that area that you mentioned earlier last summer, and I 
would agree with you, it's a beautiful area, but it's at risk. 
And we've been doing a lot of work in there trying to protect 
that community from fires that could go through there any day.
    And so, we've made that one of the high priority areas, and 
we've began to see a lot of results working with partners in 
that community, with the collaborative and whatnot. So, in 
terms of, you know, employees moving, those are personal 
decisions that they make, you know, to look at advancing.
    And so, one way that we've tried to respond directly to 
that issue is not necessarily require or put a high value on 
people moving all across the country. That still provides a 
value but not the same as perhaps what we used to do in the 
past.
    The pandemic has changed a lot of how we look at employees 
and how we look at keeping them in an area. And so, we making 
adjustments now based on what we have seen, living through the 
pandemic in terms of employees wanting to leave or not wanting 
to leave.
    And what you'll see is that we try to be as flexible as we 
can to allow the individual employees the flexibility that they 
need or desire. We decided to do when I first became Chief of 
this agency, and this is a conversation I had with the 
Secretary, is that we needed to--if we gonna implement the BIL 
and IRA, we really need to hire additional employees.
    And when I looked at the agency and what had happened over 
the last 15 years, we lost 38 percent of the non-fire 
workforce. And that equaled to about 8,000 people. And so, what 
we wanted to do was hire half of that back, and then leverage 
the other half working with communities and partners to do the 
work, and that did a couple of things for us.
    One, it brought the community to the table to help make 
decisions so that we can make decisions collaboratively about 
certain geographic areas. Now, we've done that. And what we've 
also had to do was look at a different skill sets that we need 
to break into the agency to meet the needs of the future.
    You know, you look at the trends that are developing across 
this country, whether it's climate change, whether it's those 
types of things, carbon sequestration and those types of 
issues, we needed to add capacity to the workforce to deal with 
those issues.
    And so, we have been doing that and we added additional 
people, non-fire positions as well as fire positions, to the 
workforce. Now with the budget situation as it is, we have to 
take another look to see where and how we make adjustments in 
some of those decisions.
    But it gave us a chance to pivot to prepare the 
organization for the future and how it's managing issues and 
concerns.
    Senator Murray. Okay. Well, we are concerned there because 
we are seeing staff overturn at the top. And you start working 
with the communities and you don't have that continuation, it 
really makes it challenging.
    Mr. Moore. Senator, I will tell you this, what I am hopeful 
about is that we have excellent employees that can move up. 
Now, it doesn't get directly at your question, but I want to 
give you some assurances that we have excellent employees in 
the pipeline and what they need are opportunities now.
    And this is providing opportunities to get local people to 
move into these positions at a much greater rate than what they 
have in the past. And so, that's the plus side of this.
    Senator Murray. Okay. Can you just talk really quickly 
about the impact of the fire fix, how it's impacted your 
operations, and what a lapse in that would mean?
    Mr. Moore. Well, I if I understand the question right, you 
know, getting a fire fix really means stop the bleeding from 
our firefighters because we're we had been losing them at an 
alarming rate, particularly the experienced firefighters.
    We had also been getting some declinations over the last 
couple of years because of the pay and the fact that you could 
work at a fast food restaurant and make more than a lot of our 
firefighters on the lower end of the pay scale was making. This 
pay bump that Congress has provided has been the difference in 
keeping people in place longer.
    But I'll tell you, they're real, they're concerned that 
this may not be permanent. And so, they are looking at their 
options on whether they can provide for their families by 
taking another job or whether they should stay here and trust 
that Congress is going to provide the stability that they're 
looking for. Because they love the work they do. They love 
working for the agency. It is just that they have families to 
care for.
    Senator Murray. Okay. And I'm out of time, but I did want 
to ask you quickly about the Mount St. Helens Johnston Ridge 
Observatory. There was a massive landslide there last May. And 
that observatory means a lot to people who visit the region and 
families in my state. I know there's ongoing long term planning 
to restore that. It's gonna to take several years, and I just 
wanted to find out from you what the intermediate access is for 
recreation opportunities is going to be.
    Mr. Moore. I don't know that, but I can find that out, 
Senator, and get back with you.
    Senator Murray. Would you? I would appreciate that. Thank 
you.
    Mr. Moore. Yes.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Murray. And I 
was just in the town of Saint Helens, which happens to be on 
the Oregon side of the border, cause it has such a spectacular 
view of the of the mountain. Let's turn to Senator Sinema.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you, Chairman Merkley and Ranking 
Member Murkowski. And thank you to Chief Moore for being here 
today. It's good to see you again, Chief Moore, and I hope to 
get you out to Northern Arizona again quite soon. I am looking 
forward to discussing critical forest restoration and 
firefighting needs with you today.
    My first question for you is, you know, thanks to the 
increased funding from the bipartisan infrastructure law and 
the IRA, and hard work from local Forest Service staff, the 
Four Forest Restoration Initiative, known as 4FRI, is beginning 
to make real progress in reducing wildfire threats across 
Northern Arizona.
    Partners like Coconino County, the City of Flagstaff, SRP, 
The Nature Conservancy, the National Forest Foundation, the 
Arizona Department of Forest and Fire Management, and many 
others have invested over $40 million dollars in partnerships 
with the USFS to get 4FRI where it is today. In addition, 
private industry, like Restoration Forest Product groups, has 
invested over $250 million dollars in infrastructure in the 
past 2 years to meet this challenge.
    So now is not the time to cut funding from this important 
wildfire crisis landscape. So how does the Forest Service plan 
to support this effort over the next 5 years as forest 
restoration implementation increases on this landscape?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. First of all, thank you for your support 
Senator over the years. We really appreciate it. One of the 
concerns that I would agree with you on is that 4FRI, for a lot 
of different reasons, has not been as successful as what we 
need it to be.
    And so, what we have decided to do was to take a step back, 
engage with people in the communities, and try and bring them 
to the table on how we are gonna to move forward with 4FRI. And 
I was just down there meeting with the region about a month or 
so ago to get a briefing on where we were going with 4FRI, and 
I have also assigned a person out of my office here in D.C. to 
work with them. And we have got a couple of things going on 
there.
    We have the need to work with Tribes. We have a need to 
work with the small operators. And we have a need to work with 
the large operators. And so, what we are doing is moving to a 
larger scale type of program or project that will allow the 
larger companies to have the products that they need to stay in 
operations, but also the smaller operators who have 
traditionally used those lands for those purposes as well.
    We feel like we have a really good path forward, looking at 
some of the stewardship contracts and just some of the 
agreements that we are working with the different folks in the 
community, and I'm hopeful that we'll be successful. We seem to 
be having success currently.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Another committee, I sit on the 
Homeland Security committee, recently held a hearing regarding 
the wildfire crisis.
    And I want to ask you the same question I asked a witness 
from the GAO. They've examined the impact of low pay on 
recruitment and retention of qualified wildland firefighters. I 
was proud to secure the temporary pay increase in the 
bipartisan infrastructure law, and we introduced a permanent 
pay fix for wildland firefighters, the Wildland Firefighter 
Paycheck Protection Act.
    Now, this legislation passed out of our committee last year 
with broad bipartisan support. It's urgent that the Senate 
consider this legislation quickly. But in your experience, how 
has the temporary increase in pay impacted the ability of fire 
services to recruit qualified candidates?
    And how has the promise of Congress working towards a 
permanent solution impacted workforce morale? And finally, what 
would be the impact to our Federal wildland firefighting 
workforce if these much deserved pay increases were to go away?
    Mr. Moore. So, let me start with the current status of 
them, whether it is through a CR or whatnot. The downside--the 
good side is that they are continuing to make the money. The 
downside is that it doesn't count toward retirement.
    And so, until it's permanent, the pay bump is not going to 
count towards their retirement. So, when you look at a 
firefighter that is up toward the end of their career, that 
have a, you know, 20 years in before they can retire, that 
doesn't do them any good.
    So, there is hesitancy there at that real high skill level 
area. Looking at the entry level type positions, they have 
other options that other companies and other entities are 
providing them that pays better, and the work is not as 
arduous.
    And so, the firefighters that we are recruiting, as hard 
and as dirty as that work is, they love it, and they are good 
at it. They are just not sure if this is the right decision for 
them. And so, we are having to deal with a lot of hesitancy. It 
affects morale, as you would imagine.
    And it's just a lot of tenuousness in the organization that 
we didn't have prior to this. And so, it's really critical that 
we have a permanent solution here, so we don't have to deal 
with that kind of an organization, or that side of the 
organization.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Switching back to forest 
management and 4FRI, I hear from constituents across Arizona 
that there are policies and procedures currently in place that 
are inefficient or restrict industry in reaching the pace and 
scale desired by the 4FRI initiative.
    What barriers do you see that hinder the Forest Service 
from meeting your goals of the wildfire crisis strategy, and 
are there policies that we in Congress need to address to make 
the Forest Service more effective?
    Mr. Moore. Yes, so we've been addressing those policy 
issues, Senator. I'll give you an example. When we got the BIL 
and IRA monies, we were going to do a lot of our work through 
partnerships.
    And in order to do that work through partnerships, we had 
to look at the policies and just kind of how it was guiding us. 
And to give an example, you know, to be a partner, we had to 
leverage--our partners had to provide 25 percent of the 
project. And if it's a significant cash contribution, up to 50 
percent. And when you look at the dollars we had under BIL and 
IRA, no partner could do that.
    And when you look at going outside of our traditional 
partners and going to nontraditional partners, they had even 
less of an opportunity. And so, I asked the question that, can 
we get rid of everything that is not in statute in terms of 
match requirements? Because if you take the Tribes as an 
example, there is indigenous traditional ecological knowledge. 
We didn't put a value on that, but that is very valuable.
    And so, the rules and the policies as they were, didn't 
allow for some of what we were finding working with our 
different communities. And so, bottom line is that everything 
that is not in statute has been eliminated from being a 
partner.
    And so, that has given us the opportunity to bring 
traditional and nontraditional partners to the table to do a 
lot of this work and to value their contributions differently 
than what we have in the past. And those are internal things 
that we have been making to allow us better opportunities to 
work with different people in the community.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, my time has 
expired but I have a few more questions for the Chief that I 
just submit.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much. They'll be submitted 
for the record. Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome, Chief. 
Nice to see you. In Nebraska, nearly 94 percent of the fire 
departments are entirely volunteer run, and the State has 
experienced an increased number of wildfires over the past 
couple of years. This has made programs like the Volunteer Fire 
Assistance Program vital to ensuring fire departments across my 
rural State are able to prepare and combat wildfires.
    The Nebraska's Forest Service was able to help hundreds of 
fire districts in my state, 475 in 2022 alone, improve their 
ability to prepare for and suppress wildfires through this 
program. And I was very pleased to see Nebraska receive 
recognition in the fiscal year 2025 budget on how our rural 
fire departments were able to utilize the program to purchase 
wildland firefighting protective equipment.
    In your budget request for the second year in a row, this 
program was level funded, along with other important programs 
like the State Fire Assistance Program. Given the integral role 
that volunteer firefighters play in combating wildfires in 
rural communities like we have in Nebraska, can you discuss how 
that decision was made?
    Mr. Moore. I don't know how that decision was made, 
Senator, because, you know, we react and respond to the budget 
that Congress provides us. Now, in terms of how we are working 
together.
    Senator Fischer. But this was in your budget request, that 
it was level funded.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. And keep in mind too, if you would, you 
know, we're trying to have more of a balanced look at things.
    And so, while we could use more, when we balance all of the 
needs across the spectrum, that's about what we thought was 
appropriate. Not saying that it was enough, but looking at it 
from a balanced approach, that's as good as we could do in the 
request.
    Senator Fischer. And can you outline for me other areas of 
your budget request that do support our volunteer firefighters' 
role in combating fire?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. You know, when you look at all the 
different agreements that we have across the board, we started 
with the assumption, and it's more than just an assumption, is 
that, you know, fires don't respect boundaries, and that it's 
in all of our best interest to work together so that we can 
work across boundaries.
    And so, we do work with many volunteer fire departments. 
And in fact, when you have wildfires even on Federal managed 
lands, a lot of those fire departments come and suppress fires 
there as well.
    Senator Fischer. Are there specific requests in the budget 
though that would benefit these rural fire departments where 
they are crossing those boundaries to work with Forest Service. 
So, I am talking funding here to be able to help these rural 
departments.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. The Community Wildfire Defense Grants would 
be one area where we are very helpful.
    Senator Fischer. And do you know offhand what the funding 
level for that program is?
    Mr. Moore. No, but I can certainly provide that to you.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. That would be great. The 
majority, vast majority, 88 percent of the Nebraska forest land 
is privately owned. And I know that there are partnerships 
between the Forest Service with our state foresters and local 
landowners out there, and they're extremely vital to be able to 
provide for proper management and productivity.
    The Nebraska Forest Service has been able to reduce 
wildfire risks across 40,000 acres through that Forest 
Stewardship Program and plant 650,000 pines by efficient 
reforestation plans. Can you speak to the benefits of utilizing 
the Forest Stewardship Program to defuel privately owned 
forests, especially with wildfires being a large risk in my 
home state, and with the program being crucial to preventing 
wildfires on private forest land, can you explain why that 
program was level funded in the fiscal year 2025 budget?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. I'll start with your first question. When I 
look at how we should be working together on fires, the 
grassland fires are what we consider to be flashy fuels and a 
lot of times they can be wind driven.
    And so, our firefighters are trained not only to look at 
forest fires, but also grassland fires--all fires really. Now, 
in terms of how we work together, I think we have a pretty good 
track record when you look at all of our wildfire grants and 
how we are working with many of the fire department.
    We generally work through the states, to work with the 
counties and the rural fire departments. So, that's where we 
currently are working together on those types of issues, 
Senator.
    Senator Fischer. As you're likely aware, we had a big fire 
in 2022 at Nebraska's National Forest, at Halsey, Nebraska. It 
was severely impacted in 2022.
    And I've heard concerns from some people in the area about 
the delay in contracting to remove dead standing trees, 
specifically the ponderosa pine, for example, because some of 
the wood stayed out of the forest too long after the fire 
because contracting remove--because of the contracting removal 
delays, some of the wood is now unusable.
    And it's also my understanding that because of funding 
constraints, wood is being piled in decks along forest woods, 
and currently there isn't any buyer for it. Can you speak to 
the difficulties with contracting, the removal of the dead 
standing trees, and the funding constraints with a stewardship 
contract?
    Mr. Moore. Sure. So, the for timber restoration effort, 
that contract was awarded back in October of last year. And it 
was awarded to, I think, Miller Timber Services of Oregon. And 
so, they began the work on I think it is 850 acres of pine 
stands and another 250 acres of cedar stands.
    And so, that work is ongoing. And most of that was from 
beetle kills, fire kills and that type of material. So, there's 
another contract that was let in August of this past year, and 
we had three proposals on that with a September deadline.
    So, the contractor was selected, and what we'e looking at 
now is what do we do with those decks that we have piled up out 
there? And so, the contractor began work in January of this 
year, and right now they are expecting to complete all the 
cutting and all the decking and the massification on the pieces 
that they are not going to be decking.
    That should be completed by the end of May. And so, we are 
currently looking for other options to really remove the deck 
materials on the other 250 acres of the cedar stands. So, the 
fence contract which is part of that. It was selected through a 
competitive bidding process as well, and that will begin on 
April 15th--next week, sometime.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. But would you be open to having a 
dialog on that? If we receive more questions from our state on 
that, can we reach out to you and be able to get information to 
those folks?
    Mr. Moore. Yes, absolutely. And in fact, this contract 
that's going to start on April 15th, is really for the removal 
and reconstruction of approximately about 24 miles of fencing.
    Senator Fischer. Great. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Fischer. 
Senator Tester.
    Senator Tester. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking 
Member. Thank you, Chief Moore, for being here today. You and I 
have talked extensively over the last year about the Forest 
Service's decision to fine a small electric co-op in Montana 
for wildfire service suppression stemming from a 2021 fire in 
Montana. And in fact, we just talked about this yesterday.
    I didn't intend to bring this up, but what I am hoping for 
is, that if you can't help me on this, then somebody who might 
be watching this video can help me on this. This a serious 
situation. The Forest Service fine a small electric cooperative 
in the state of Montana a little over $5 million bucks for a 
fire in 2021.
    To put this in perspective, the annual operating revenue 
for this small cooperative is $15 million bucks. If this isn't 
crazy enough, I recently learned that this is not a process--
there is not a process in place for the cooperative to be able 
to appeal this case directly to the Forest Service, which in my 
opinion, and I don't think this is false, this is absolute 
fact, would be the agency that's most readily equipped to hear 
an appeal on a forest fire in Forest Service land, that knows 
about things like dead trees and ten foot right of ways on each 
side of the pole and those kind of things.
    Instead, the only recourse for this small cooperative may 
be to enter into a settlement. And I say may, because hopefully 
we can find a different way to have some assurance for this 
small cooperative, but may be to enter into a with settlement 
process with lawyers at the Department of Justice.
    Now, while I appreciate the importance of holding folks 
accountable, and I believe in it strongly, on taking 
preventative measures to avoid costly wildfires, I can tell you 
the jury is still out on whether the cooperative was negligent 
at all. And put that together, this process seems extremely 
broken.
    So, let's put this in perspective for some issues that we 
deal about in Congress. Let's say the Federal Government had 
the authority to fine a social media company one-third of their 
operating revenue or an airline. What do you guys think would 
be the process there? It would be chaos--with no appeal rights.
    Now, I understand that there're some statutes that the 
agency needs to follow, but there are some questions. And Chief 
Moore, you know very well, at least you should, and I think you 
do, know very well the fining of a cooperative with a $15 
million budget, one-third of its revenue--a cooperative that's 
been around, by the way, for 87 years--would have two outcomes.
    The cooperative either goes out of business and folks lose 
electricity, which is pretty darn critical in the 21st century. 
Or the cooperative has to jack up energy costs on its entire 
members, because cooperatives are owned by the customer, to 
cover the bill. Given that the blame for the 2021 fire is 
disputable, my question to you, Chief Moore, is how the hell 
did we end up here?
    Mr. Moore. Well, first of all, Senator, you accurately 
described the process. And anything over $100,000 dollars move 
into DOJ for settlement or resolution.
    How we got there, I think that, you know, it is the same in 
many parts of the country and especially out in the Western 
part of the country, where you have overstocked forests, and 
the fact that climate change has exacerbated the conditions out 
on the ground. We have similar traditions in many parts of the 
country.
    So, this is not unusual, and we've tried to work with the 
utility--not tried, but we've actually worked with the utility 
sector by removing a lot of the redundancies of requiring them 
to come in every year to get so-called permission to do 
clearance around their power lines.
    So, I don't know all the specifics directly with that, but 
I know that where we are right now, we haven't done anything 
different with them as what we would normally do when there is 
a fire, and we look at the cause.
    And after the investigation, you know, it was determined 
that a tree had fallen on their power line, which started the 
fire.
    Senator Tester. So, can I ask you, how often does this kind 
of a fee be put on cooperatives or investor owned utilities, 
this kind of a fine?
    Mr. Moore. Well, I mean, it's always different. I mean, you 
know, a large, public utility it's gonna different than a small 
co-op utility. PG&E in California for one. They have been 
litigated as well on fires that have started under their power 
lines. And so, this is not an unusual process.
    Senator Tester. I would just say this, you know how big the 
trees are in the forest. You know that a 10 foot right of way 
on each side of the pole is required.
    And I believe we tried to adjust that right of way a few 
times and have been unsuccessful in being able to do that. I 
would just tell you that I think we've put this cooperative in 
a position where if we continue down this road, we're doomed.
    And I will say, you know, we had the conversation yesterday 
and you had mentioned to me that maybe I should call up the 
Department of Justice. I have found one thing in my 17.5 years 
in this job, when I start telling lawyers what to do, it 
usually ends up with a bad outcome, and that is a fact. That's 
not a joke at all.
    Because the truth the matter is, is that something about 
it, they take incredible offense to it. And I would just say 
this, if we cannot find some way in this equation to add common 
sense to what's going on here, because this doesn't make any 
sense.
    In fact, when they first told me that this had happened, I 
looked at them and scratch--you're not telling me the truth. 
You're kidding me. You're, this--no, it's the truth, and it was 
the truth.
    But if we don't figure out a way to do this, and if we need 
a legislative fix, I got notion we can do it in a bipartisan 
way, but putting a small company, a small cooperative, or a 
company, it doesn't matter, out of business because we got a 
forest that is half dead or more, because we got a right of way 
that is inadequate, because they didn't do anything wrong--and 
there is lots of things we do in this world that are wrong.
    But this outfit didn't do anything wrong, and they get 
slapped with a $5 million dollars they're done. They're done--
87 years of service by this company is done. And so, we need to 
figure out a solution here.
    And it can't be dependent on some attorney at the 
Department of Justice that doesn't know what the hell is going 
on in rural America to make a decision. I am just going to tell 
you, I don't like the looks of that outcome but that is me as a 
farmer talking, okay, and as a Senator.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. No, I don't disagree with you, Senator. 
This is something that needs to be addressed. I have--by 
statute, I just have no authority in any of this, but I agree, 
it's a concern. And there's a lot of conditions like that all 
across the West that are being put in a similar situation.
    Senator Tester. Hindsight is 2020, but I would love to meet 
the person who levied this fine in the Forest Service. I would 
love to meet that person because common sense was slim or none, 
and slim left town.
    Mr. Moore. Yes.
    Senator Tester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you, Senator Tester. Senator Hoeven.
    Senator Hoeven. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And Senator 
Tester, that's the kind of thing I'd be happy to work with you 
on, if a legislative solution is needed cause we need common 
sense. And listening to you, I understand you'd be pleased to 
meet the person that levied the fine.
    I'm guessing wouldn't be so--he might not share the same 
enthusiasm, but yes, right on. We need common sense in these 
solutions. Chief, thanks for being here today. Good to see you 
again. When are you coming to North Dakota?
    Mr. Moore. Well, I'd certainly work on that with you. I 
know I couldn't go the last time. Chris French went would love 
to accompany you there.
    Senator Hoeven. Yes. Well, we worked on it before, and so I 
would like to extend the invitation again. We would love to 
have you come out and see us. So, we can work on that.
    Mr. Moore. Great Yes.
    Senator Hoeven. And I must tell you and commend you. Deputy 
Chief Chris French came out last year in your stead, and I 
don't know, he set a pretty high bar. I think maybe that's why 
you are avoiding us.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Hoeven. Because he came out, we took him out West, 
and he helped us with the spraying on these noxious weeds. We 
got about $1.7 million out of a commitment of $4.5, which we 
really appreciate.
    And that's what I mean, he came out and was good. And I 
want to compliment him and also want to ask for your commitment 
that we follow up and we get the full $4.5 for those noxious 
weeds. Do we have your commitment?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. And in fact, I believe he may have 
committed to doing that as soon as we got a budget. So, we just 
got a budget, so we are committed to providing that. And of 
course, that would be provided over multiple years.
    Senator Hoeven. Yes. Yes. Great. And would you recommend to 
him that he come back out? I mean, if he is going to do that 
well, we might find something else for him.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. If he did that well, maybe he can just take 
my place.
    Senator Hoeven. Well, that is what I am saying. You don't 
want him outshining you, so you have to come out----
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Hoeven. But we do appreciate it. We'd like him come 
back to. So, if you encourage him, that would be great. I also 
want to follow up--we've had this conversation before, but 
would you please express for the record that you are committed 
to multiple uses of the land?
    Mr. Moore. I am.
    Senator Hoeven. Okay. And do you believe that, you know, 
timber harvesting and those kind of things can actually benefit 
fire risk management?
    Mr. Moore. It can and does.
    Senator Hoeven. Okay. And how do you proactively engage in 
that process?
    Mr. Moore. In timber management?
    Senator Hoeven. Yes. How do you make sure that folks out on 
the ground are able to accomplish that and not held up?
    Mr. Moore. Well, I mean, first of all, they need to have a 
budget in order to----
    Senator Hoeven. It kind of goes back to what Senator Tester 
was just talking about. You know, the ability for folks on the 
ground to be able to take commonsense action and not, you know, 
face sanctions for it for some reason, right. Go ahead, sir.
    Mr. Moore. I think you've just said it. You know, it starts 
with the budget. And I think that as we get our budget in the 
different program areas, then provide those types of activities 
on the forest.
    Senator Hoeven. Along those lines, in the Great American 
Outdoors Act, we secured funding that actually helps in the 
grasslands as well, get water out there to livestock and that 
kind of thing. And there is a number of things that are 
involved. In some cases, it's, you know, digging wells. In some 
cases, it's developing stock ponds. In other cases, it's is 
just actually moving the water across the grasslands.
    And they have to get permits to do that. So, we have got 
this program between the Great American Outdoor Act and our 
state where we help the grazers get access to water. But one of 
the challenges they hit is permitting, permitting, and that is 
you all.
    Can you help us there, or do you have some ideas on how we 
can help with the permitting process? Cause it's, you know, 
they go through a lot of work to do it. It's very burdensome, 
costly, and takes a lot of time.
    Mr. Moore. So, I don't know the specifics that you may be 
referring to, Senator, but I'd be more than happy to look into 
any specific permitting issues or concerns that you may have.
    Senator Hoeven. Yes, that would be great. That'd be a great 
reason to have you out there, because it involves a lot of 
things. In some cases, it's the historical society. There is 
just a lot of things--steps they have to go through. And to get 
you out there with some of our cowboys and let them kind of 
show you and talk to you.
    Mr. Moore. Yes.
    Senator Hoeven. I think back to that commonsense aspect. I 
think you applying some common sense would find ways to improve 
it--streamline it.
    And then the last thing I'll bring up is I have--Senator 
Bennett of Colorado and I have legislation we call the Joint 
Chiefs Program, which I think you're familiar with. Would you, 
you know, talk a little bit about how you think that program 
can help with things like improve fire resilience, soil health, 
water quality, those kind of things?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. So that's within USDA, the Joint Chiefs 
Project as an example, is myself and my counterpart within RCS, 
Chief Crosby.
    We've been looking at a number of those Joint Chiefs 
projects across the country, and I think that they're very, 
very valuable, particularly when you look at private lands 
versus Federal lands and how we can come together to address 
some of those critical issues on private lands.
    But also, particularly if what's happening on highlands, 
usually Federal lands, is it causing impacts on the private 
land down beneath. And in many cases the Joint Chiefs projects 
have been a godsend in many ways to address a lot of those 
issues.
    Senator Hoeven. Good. Thanks for being here, and thanks for 
the help that we have been able to receive from you and your 
staff. And again, look forward to have you come to our State as 
well. Thank you. Okay.
    Mr. Moore. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you, Senator Hoeven. Now, we turn to 
Senator Van Hollen.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And look 
forward to working with you and Ranking Member Murkowski as we 
kick off this new appropriation season.
    Chief, welcome. It's good to see you. And I was pleased to 
see in the budget request you submitted, a grant for 
Stillmeadow Peace Park, for the Stillmeadow Community 
Fellowship, environmental education program. Stillmeadow Peace 
Park is in West Baltimore, and it's been a place of innovative 
partnership with the Forest Service's Baltimore Urban Field 
Office.
    The community has worked to plant over 2,500 trees as it 
works to restore the woods, and the Urban Field Office has been 
able to use the land as a laboratory to understand urban green 
spaces.
    A partnership with the local workforce training, nonprofit 
Turnaround Tuesday's, graduated a class of new foresters just 
last summer. Can you speak to how the Forest Service can use 
this kind of innovative collaboration to maximize the benefits 
of renewing the urban tree canopy?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. So, as you know, between the IRA funding, 
we had about $1.5 billion dollars to invest in these types of 
projects and similar projects, and we have been all across the 
country.
    Now, what is exciting about this is that $1.5 billion 
dollars is a lot of money, but we actually have seven times the 
request for those dollars, which says there's a huge need in 
many of our urban areas for these types of dollars.
    This particular project that you mentioned was awarded $2 
million dollars, and many projects across urban areas have been 
awarded these types of projects. And so, I think when you look 
at, and our science is telling us this, when you look at a tree 
canopy neighborhood versus one that does not have trees, 
there's about 17 to 18 percent difference in the temperature.
    And so, when you look at the value of this type of work in 
these type of settings, it's very valuable and is particularly 
in many of our disadvantaged communities.
    Senator Van Hollen. Well, thank you, Chief. And I'd just 
like to ask unanimous consent to put in the record an article 
entitled, Stillmeadow Peace Park is Baltimore's Latest Tale of 
Urban Reinvention.
    Senator Merkley. Without objection.
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    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. I do think it's a great 
model and example of what we can be doing. So, I want to turn 
now to a little wider lens, which is the Chesapeake Bay. And 
the Chesapeake Bay Program released a report last fall tracking 
an overall loss of tree canopy in the Chesapeake Bay watershed 
as development and impermeable surfaces like driveways and 
parking lots have increased.
    The Forest Service has been a partner in the Chesapeake 
Forest Restoration Strategy, largely providing technical 
assistance to the states as they work to increase the tree 
canopy and riparian buffers.
    Could you just speak to the importance of trees and forest 
to the overall Chesapeake Bay restoration effort?
    Mr. Moore. Sure. So, as you know, riparian buffers, you 
know, they act as filters, is one of the uses of it. And it 
also removes a lot of air pollution from the area. It also 
reduces storm runoff. It also looks at the carbon 
sequestration.
    And when you look at stormwater runoff its--our team looked 
at the value of the work in the Chesapeake Bay and what it came 
up with, the trees are providing over $6 billion dollars of 
benefits annually, from air pollution, removal of stormwater 
runoff, and carbon sequestration, in the Chesapeake Bay.
    And so, I think what it tells you is that trees provide a 
really good buffer to filter out some of the things that's 
having negative impacts on the Bay, as well as many other 
areas.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. And, you know, my colleagues 
on this committee have heard and will continue to hear me talk 
a lot about the importance of protecting the Chesapeake Bay. 
It's a national and natural treasure--international treasure.
    And it also supports the livelihood of tens of thousands, 
if not millions of people in the entire watershed, from the 
watermen and others who get their living from the bounty of the 
Bay to the tourism industry, to the boating industry.
    So, a healthy Bay is not only important for ecological and 
preservation reasons, it's essential to our economy, and we 
need all pieces of this strategy to work, including the Forest 
Service. And I'm gonna to continue to reach out to you to see 
if there additional ways we can engage the Forest Service as 
part of our overall strategy to protect the Bay.
    I think I' right in saying that if you look at the land 
mass area to the water body size, it is the largest sort of 
ratio of land mass draining into a water body than any other 
water body in the country. From parts of New York, down the 
Mid-Atlantic coast, to Virginia, including the District of 
Columbia.
    So, when I talk about more driveways and impermeable 
surfaces, we're talking about a large land area where this is 
happening. And so, just to try to keep ahead of the game, we've 
got to be taking these measures.
    And to actually get the Bay clean up to where we want it, 
we're gonna to have to accelerate these efforts. So, this is 
one piece, an important piece of that overall strategy. So, 
thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Van Hollen. 
And I'm gonna have to compare the Columbia River drainage with 
the Chesapeake Bay. Thank you. Chief Moore, the Rogue River--
Siskiyou National Forest covers 2,700mi\2\, some seven 
counties, and two states, because some of it extends into 
California.
    The wildfire crisis strategy has identified the Rogue Basin 
as a high risk fire shed. And your team and my team and BLM are 
looking at investments in the landscape. With its 
identification as a high risk fire shed, can we make sure that 
it gets attention in terms of the funding for high risk fire 
sheds?
    Mr. Moore. Yes, Senator, it is considered a high risk fire 
shed.
    Senator Merkley. And can we make sure that it gets funding 
associated with being a high risk fire shed?
    Mr. Moore. Can I take a look to see where we are with 
funding, Senator, and get back with you on that? But this would 
be an important area for us, as it is with you.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. And despite the size of it, the 
2,700mi\2\, a big section in the middle, not included in that 
2,700mi\2\, is BLM land. If we include that, it's an even 
larger, and so we need cooperation between your team and the 
BLM team.
    Mr. Moore. Yes.
    Senator Merkley. Also, the Forest Service has a management 
plan direction for old growth across the National Forest 
System. In Oregon, we pretty much took out most of our old 
growth. I've been in many, many parts of the state where I look 
at some really big trees, 2 ft. to 3 ft. across, and very, very 
tall.
    And then I'll see the 6 ft. to 8 ft. across, stumps from 
the original harvest and realize that they're still kind of 
young. But we have that limited amount of old growth we have 
left is still critical habitat for a variety of species, and 
it's why the harvesting has really gone to second growth and 
protecting what remaining old growth there is.
    Not to mention that they're much more fire resistant to the 
fires that sweep through. Any insights on how the management 
plan direction for old growth is changing our perspectives or 
habits of the Forest Service harvesting?
    Mr. Moore. So, let's take a look at the wildfire crisis 
strategy, which I think this old growth amendment is going to 
be complementary to that because one of the biggest threats to 
old growth is--that has been identified is wildfires. Disease 
and insects is another one of the biggest threats.
    In order to manage old growth, then we have to go in and we 
will have timber sales. I mean, it's legitimate, in this old 
growth amendment. And so, you'll see a management within these 
old growth areas simply because they're being threatened by 
fire, disease, and insects.
    Senator Merkley. Well, I do want you to take a look at 
that. I want to make sure that what little of the true old 
growth we have left is not part of a harvest plan. Our mills 
have retooled for smaller trees.
    Our forest products have retooled for smaller trees. And so 
the few sections of old growth we have left shouldn't be in a 
harvesting plan.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. And it's not the same everywhere, Senator. 
I mean, there is geographic differences all across the country, 
and that's why it is really difficult to have, you know, just a 
standard that's going to apply across the country because it 
simply won't.
    There are some areas where you have larger stands of old 
growth, so you will be managing within those. There are some 
areas where you have a smaller growth, where you may not be 
doing much management.
    Senator Merkley. Do you have timing on when the land 
management plan directions for old growth will be available?
    Mr. Moore. So, the plan right now for the amendment is to 
have a draft sometime in June or so and to look at a final 
Rogue--regulative decision sometime toward the end of the year. 
That is the plan as of now.
    Senator Merkley. Okay. If your team could keep my team 
briefed on that, that would be helpful.
    Mr. Moore. Absolutely.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Last year, you released an 
action plan to advance nation to nation relationships with 
Tribal governments. We also worked with you to rename the State 
and private forestry account to include state, Tribal, and 
Private Forestry to acknowledge that Tribes are a critical 
partner. What are you and your staff doing to engage with the 
Tribes to ensure they have a role in agency decisionmaking?
    Mr. Moore. So, we started--and you just mentioned it 
yourself, Senator. We did a name change within the agency. It 
used to be State and Private Forestry, now State, Private, and 
Tribal Forestry. Tribal was always in there, but it was silent 
because it wasn't named.
    We changed that this year. We've also developed a Tribal 
action plan to really get at that. And we're requiring our 
employees to become familiar with Tribal issues, as well as 
some of the treaties that we have had through the years.
    And I think education is the first place to start about how 
those treaties have been honored or not honored in many cases. 
And so, we wanted to make an attempt to educate our workforce 
first about Tribal action plans and the treaty rights and all 
of those things as relates to Tribes.
    So, we are in the middle of that now. We are having a lot 
of dividends. I know myself and the Under Secretary has gone 
out and visited many of the Tribes and spent a week out there 
and just riding and getting familiar with their perspective, 
their side of the issues. And looking at Northwest Forest Plan, 
you know, we have five Tribes. That is going to be a part of 
the Federal advisory committee on that.
    So, we've been making a lot of efforts to reach more into 
the Tribal communities. We've also learned too, and this whole 
process this past year, I don't know if you have ever heard the 
term of two eyes seeing, but typically the Forest Service and 
others have looked at Western science as a way and as a 
foundation for us.
    And while that has provided a lot of valuable knowledge and 
insight, the indigenous traditional ecological knowledge is 
also providing a lot of insights into how we should be managing 
the ecosystems.
    And so, they refer to that is two eyes seeing. Rather than 
looking out of one eye of the Western science, use both eyes to 
also include the indigenous ecological knowledge. And so, we 
are learning how to be more inclusive, and our intent is to 
continue to find ways to engage with our Tribal partners.
    Senator Merkley. One specific opportunity that you and I 
have talked about previously is related to the Klamath Tribes. 
Their reservation was turned into the Fremont Winema National 
Forest when they were terminated, so they have a deep 
connection to these lands. And they have been working to 
establish a co-stewardship and management agreement with the 
National Forest Service. Any update on the progress in 
establishing that partnership?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. I mean, I think we are right in the middle 
of establishing the partnerships. The other things that we're 
doing with that partnership and in addition to that partnership 
is applying prescribed fire and restoring habitat for fisheries 
that are culturally significant for the Klamath Tribe.
    We are also, in addition to that is look--working to stand 
up Klamath Tribe's owned and operated equipment and fire crews, 
which is really increasing firefighting capacity for the entire 
basin that you talked about.
    So, we are moving to help establish that whole fire 
mechanism within the Tribes, but also working to restore those 
things that are very important for the Klamath Tribe.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. I want to turn to Senator 
Murkowski.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Kind of keeping 
with the focus on our Tribes, as you know well, under the farm 
bill in 2018, the Forest Service was provided 638 Authority to 
enter into agreements with Tribal Governments to conduct 
various projects on Forest Service lands.
    Our challenge in Alaska is that the 638 authority is 
limited both as to the scope of activity and to the area in 
which the activity occurs. It has to be on forest lands that 
are contiguous with Tribal trust lands. So, our challenge in 
Alaska is that we don't have much in the way of trust lands. 
And instead, you know, we've got the model under ANCSA, that 
includes Alaska native corporations that hold and manage the 
lands for the benefits.
    So, we're looking at this and suggesting that we need to 
expand this 638 Authority for the Tribal Forest Protection Act 
projects so that we can add on additional activities across 
forest lands, whether it's contiguous or adjacent to the Tribal 
trust lands.
    So, we look at this as a real opportunity for partnering, 
and in partnering particularly in areas where you have exactly 
what you have just acknowledged, the indigenous traditional 
cultural knowledge is there on the ground. Let's utilize our 
indigenous peoples and all that they bring to the table, and we 
think that 638 Authority can help us do just that.
    There's a little bit of resistance within USDA and the 
Forest Service. And so, what I'm asking for from you today, 
Chief, is your commitment to work with me and my staff as we 
look to expand this 638 Authority in Alaska and also for 
opportunities outside of the Tribal Forest Protection Act.
    Mr. Moore. Yes, Senator. I've enjoyed working with you on 
this issue.
    Senator Murkowski. And I know that there are others in my 
capacity as the ranking member on the Indian Affairs committee. 
I've had conversations with others about this who again think 
that there're real opportunities there.
    You know, we have an example in Alaska already where the 
Forest Service and Tlingit, Haida have signed this memorandum 
of understanding in October last year. I think it's a good 
first step, this collaboration, our commitment to collaborating 
on resource management, and the planning there at Mendenhall 
Glacier.
    I think that that's a positive, but I hope that the Forest 
Service doesn't stop there and consider 638 compacting on this. 
I think it is a great opportunity. Southeast Alaska sustainable 
strategy. This is something where, again, you and I have had 
conversation.
    USGA's initial commitment, and I underscore initial 
commitment, was $25 million dollars to focus on the local 
priorities for the short term investment there. We've seen good 
awards coming for those projects. That's great. I'm hearing 
good, good things from folks in Southeast about that.
    But there's a recognition that while $25 million is not 
something to walk away from, it is significant. But we also 
recognize that this was a commitment that was made by the 
Federal Government when you basically shut the door on any real 
timber opportunities coming out of the Tongass, and as a 
consequence of the decision on the Roadless Rule.
    So, we've got a lot of folks that are looking at the long 
term economic health in the region and asking me, well, what 
does it mean as a follow on? And this is a conversation that I 
have had with Secretary Vilsack. It was not a very satisfying 
conversation. I think I have shared with you.
    But it was made clear not just to me, but to the people of 
the Tongass, that that $25 million dollars was going to be an 
initial investment. So, I will ask you the question this 
morning about what we can expect in terms of additional 
investments and their focus towards long term economic 
sustainability.
    Mr. Moore. Okay. So, the data that I have is that in 
addition to that $25 million dollars that has been leveraged by 
tens of millions of building IRA dollars--so let me look into 
this, Senator, and get back with you to see if there is a 
disconnect. And if so, where? But my information, my data is 
telling me that we have leveraged that through BIL and IRA 
dollars.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, I would appreciate if you would 
look to that and confirm, because when the commitment was made 
for the Southeast Sustainable Strategy and that initial $25 
million dollars, we had not yet dreamed of IIJA.
    And I know that for a fact, because I was one of the 
architects of that. And so, there was a commitment made. You're 
correct, we have seen some pretty extraordinary resources come 
into the region because of IIJA and the IRA. I grant you that. 
But I also know that that is additive. It does not reference 
the initial agreement that we had with the Southeast 
sustainable strategy, so I look forward to your follow on.
    Let me continue on Alaska specific issues. I know that you 
are familiar with my legislation, that we are working through 
the process to address the landless Native Alaskans in 
Southeast Alaska. I appreciate that Forest Service 
understanding on this issue has evolved. I think that that has 
been very important to us as we've moved through the process.
    I think Forest Service has gone from a position of 
opposition to realizing that what we are attempting to do is to 
make good on the commitment to these five communities and are 
working cooperatively with us on that.
    Mr. Moore. Yes. You know, so we are committed to working 
with you on this, Senator. This is something that needs to be 
addressed, and we agree with you on this. So, we are committed 
to working with you.
    Senator Murkowski. Good. Thank you I appreciate that. And 
another area where again we need to recognize not kind of, but 
an injustice, that many of our Alaska Native veterans who were 
serving in Vietnam at the time that they were allowed to, to 
select their land entitlements, they were not able to do so 
because of their service, and they were left out.
    So, we're trying to make good on the commitment to the 
remaining. There's not that many of them that are left. One of 
the challenges that we have is that we have--you know, and 
we're very proud of the fact that we had so many Alaska Natives 
serving who were from the Southeastern region, but the 
challenge that we have is that the legislation that we were 
able to pass to allow for opening up for additional selection, 
excluded any selections in the Tongass.
    So, I hear from veterans all the time that it is like 
giving me a promise for a bus that will never come. I get a 
ticket, but this bus will never even be in my community, in my 
region. I will never be able to access it.
    So, we're trying to be helpful and creative. We are working 
through legislation that would open up areas in refuge land. 
I'm moving legislation that would open up areas in Forest 
Service.
    I just had a meeting with Alaska BLM last week in 
Anchorage, and I'm told that we have got about 500 veterans in 
Southeast who have not filed any application because they feel 
it would be meaningless to have to select in an area that is 
1,200 miles from their home, with no connection to that.
    And so, I'm encouraging those veterans to apply, even 
knowing that the Tongass is not available right now. But I am 
hoping that Forest Service is looking at this issue and is 
considering helping us address this 50 year inequity to our 
Vietnam veterans.
    And we've got more work to do on this, I understand that, 
but I would hope that Forest Service would be helping us as we 
try to seek areas for these veterans.
    Mr. Moore. Senator, we do want to do the right thing. And 
so, we're interested in working with you to see if there is 
some kind of solution to this.
    Senator Murkowski. Good. Thank you. Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Co-Chair Murkowski. 
And I want to turn to an issue related to the National Ambient 
Air Quality Standard. A new standard was rolled out by the EPA, 
in which they looking at the small particles that do the most 
damage to lungs, and they reduced basically by 25 percent the 
objective. That is, lowering the particulate matter 2.5 
standard from 12 micrograms per meter cube to 9.
    And if you don't meet that standard, then an area has to--
they're labeled as non-attainment center. They have to produce 
a plan on how they are going to achieve it. There has been a 
lot of questions raised about the impacts of this, and one of 
those questions is how it might affect prescribed burns.
    Senator Daines and I raised this question to the EPA, and 
they responded and said, essentially, there is a pathway called 
the Exceptional Events Program. I want to see if you understand 
this to mean that prescribed burns will be exempted from 
essentially triggering non-attainment, or whether that still is 
a little uncertain.
    Mr. Moore. Well, Senator, for me it's still a little 
uncertain. But I think it's something that we have to have some 
really honest discussions around because it is an either, or. 
We can either look at using prescribed fires or we can deal 
with the aftermath of wildfires.
    And there's a difference in the smoke, even though it's 
smoke from a fire. We have to really have an honest discussion 
about weighing the risk for either one and taking the, you 
know, the least damaging option.
    Because in this case, if we do not make a decision on this, 
we are going to continue to experience what we experiencing on 
our landscapes. So, this is something that we really need to 
have some discussions around. I understand, you know, the clean 
air attainment and what we're after, but we are at a point, I 
think, in this country where we ought to have some really hard 
discussion, even if it's temporary relief, on some of the 
requirements.
    Senator Merkley. All right, so I am disturbed by your 
answer. There was a November MOU between the EPA and a whole 
bunch of other agencies.
    I think it's really important to nail this down, because if 
we don't get clarity on prescribed burns not triggering non-
attainment, it will be a reason many communities will say 
absolutely don't do that two day prescribed burn because it's 
going to affect everything in our local economy because we will 
be labeled non-attainment.
    So, this is something that has to be figured out. The 
communities in Oregon that used to really resist prescribed 
burns because they didn't want those couple days of potential 
smoke now are asking at my town halls about making sure that we 
reduce the risk of a fire sweeping through their town after 
witnessing our 2020 Labor Day fires. I mean, people across the 
nation think of Paradise, California.
    But our 2020 fires, I traveled from the Northern border of 
our State to California and back, and never got out of the 
smoke. Six towns wiped out. Another six partially wiped out. It 
was extraordinary. People understand the risk with the 
changing, longer, hotter, drier summers.
    But this is a potential obstacle to using a significant 
tool to reduce risk. So, can I get your commitment to work on 
this, to try to get clarity that prescribed fires are the--
particulates that come from prescribed fires will not be 
utilized in triggering non-attainment?
    Mr. Moore. Yes. Perhaps I wasn't really clear in my 
response, but I am actually agreeing with you, Senator, that we 
need to be looking at prescribed fire in a much larger way than 
what we currently are. That's got to be part of the solution to 
this wildfire situation that we have going.
    Senator Merkley. And that will include working to make sure 
that smoke from prescribed fires does not trigger or count 
towards non-attainment?
    Mr. Moore. I don't know where we--I have no control over 
that. But I do think--that is a discussion I think we have to 
have, because I'm in support of prescribed burning. In fact, 
I'm in support of more prescribed burning in what we are 
currently doing. We're organizing to do more prescribed 
burning. And so, I think that's our position on the issue.
    Senator Merkley. Okay. Well, I'm hoping you would say yes, 
I will work to make sure that prescribed fire smoke does not 
count towards non-attainment. I think you're kind of saying 
that, but I'm not hearing it that clearly.
    Mr. Moore. I'm kind of saying it, but I don't know the 
unknown.
    Senator Merkley. Okay. Well, I want to try to get from a 
less clear statement to a clearer action, because this is 
really important piece of the puzzle that there's a lot of 
concern over.
    Mr. Moore. Yes.
    Senator Merkley. Did you have any last question?
    Senator Murkowski. Just very quickly, Mr. Chairman. And 
thank you, Chief, for giving us so much time here this morning. 
I mentioned in my comments that Alaska is no stranger to 
wildfire. Most of our fires are typically up North, out on the 
tundra.
    But we're seeing wildfires in different places. In areas 
that have typically been viewed as almost wetlands. In areas 
that have a great deal of permafrost. The question for you this 
morning is, as we're seeing fires in areas that typically 
didn't burn, we're seeing some concerns, particularly when 
you've a burned area and then exposure to areas that have been 
basically frozen through the permafrost, and now you've got 
releases, to the concerns that the chairman has--when that area 
is now kind of opened up, you have releases of carbon into the 
atmosphere that are notable.
    I'm wondering if the Forest Service has done any research 
into increased fires in areas with permafrost.
    Mr. Moore. No, we haven't to my knowledge, but that's a 
very interesting aspect. I'll talk with our scientists.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay. The other thing I would like you 
to explore with them is whether or not there's been any 
research with regards to impacts on watershed quality.
    As you probably know, we are experiencing some salmon 
declines, catastrophic impacts to salmon, and I'm wondering if 
there is any relationship between the catastrophic fires that 
we see and the dwindling populations that we are seeing on the 
Kuskokwim and on the Yukon.
    So, I don't know if you can ask your research folks if 
there's been any consideration given to that?
    Mr. Moore. I would certainly do that. I know typically you 
would have some impacts, because of the sedimentation that's 
going to be draining into the rivers, which would have a 
negative impact on----
    Senator Murkowski. Which all makes sense. We have always 
had fires, though. And so, what we are trying to understand is, 
this has been an unprecedented decline in our fisheries. 
Something else is going on. Is it because we are having fires 
in parts of the state that we haven't seen before.
    So, if there's no research out there, I get it. But if 
there is something, we would certainly be interested in that. 
And then my last question to you this morning is, I know you 
were up in the Chugach, and I hope you had an opportunity to 
discuss with the region the demand for increased access to the 
recreational areas. I think we have made some good progress on 
special use permits over the years.
    And so, know that we continue to hear from that the 
outfitters and the guides and the other providers, they want to 
share these areas with so many other people. So, I'm hoping 
that you heard firsthand that that increased demand is there.
    We want to do it right. We get all that. But hopefully you 
can work with us on accessing these recreation areas.
    Mr. Moore. I will, and I did hear about that when I was 
there on my visit.
    Senator Murkowski. Good, good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. And Chief Moore, thank you for 
addressing these many issues. And do you have a little bit of 
follow up?
    Mr. Moore. Just, if you don't mind, Senator, just a 
clarification because I am not sure if it came across, but the 
old growth amendment process, I had shared with you that is 
going have a draft June or July, but maybe what wasn't clear is 
that the draft will be completed in early 2025, but between the 
draft and the final, we'll have another public comment.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    Senator Merkley. Okay. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that 
clarification. The record for the hearing will remain open 
until the close of business on April 17th.
    So, if members have any additional questions they would 
like to submit, homework for Chief Moore's team, or articles, 
that is the deadline. And so, with that, this hearing is 
adjourned.
             Questions Submitted by Senator Kyrsten Sinema
    Question. What steps can Congress take to assist the Forest Service 
with expediting the availability of NEPA approved acres for forest 
health, restoration and thinning efforts in western regions of the 
United States--and specifically the Southwest Region--prone to 
catastrophic wildland fire?
    Answer. The Forest Service appreciates congressional support in the 
line items that funded NEPA efficiencies including those in the 
Inflation Reduction Act. These funds allowed the Forest Service to 
invest in additional resources for NEPA and pre-implementation surveys 
leading to more accomplishments. The funds also provided an opportunity 
for the Forest Service to find more efficient ways to meet requirements 
in both NEPA and pre-implementation.
    Generally speaking, in the Southwestern Region, we experience more 
process delays related to cultural heritage and archeological survey 
work when protecting cultural resources on National Forest System 
lands. The availability of NEPA-approved acres is not a primary factor 
in preventing the agency from treating more acres. Continuing to invest 
with budgets dedicated toward meeting the pace and scale of wildfire 
treatments and healthy forest lands would allow the Forest Service to 
meet the regulatory requirements, and plan for the best treatments on 
the land in a manner that meets the pace and scale needed for 
restoration and resiliency.
    Question. A substantial part of the challenge with 4FRI, now that 
we are in the implementation phase, is the staff capacity to execute. 
None of the 4 forests are fully staffed and the Apache-Sitgreaves is 
around half-staffed. What is the agency doing to fill jobs and what 
jobs are being prioritized?
    Answer. The four national forests associated with 4FRI exhausted 
all hiring opportunities and strategies available to the Agency over 
the past few years, including direct hiring authorities (Veterans' 
Preferences, Schedule A, and the Resource Assistant Program), national 
hiring efforts, and priority reassignments for existing employees, to 
meet the needs of the 4FRI landscape. In addition, 4FRI utilized 
innovative approaches to accomplish the fuels reduction goals in the 
Wildfire Crisis Strategy. Examples include expansion of existing 
partnerships, use of streamlined contracting mechanisms to hire crews 
outside the Federal Government, use of more efficient types of 
contracts, larger acreage in contract offerings, and stewardship 
contracts for work supervised by the Forest Service but completed, 
after competition, by industry (e.g., surveying, layout, and 
silvicultural prescriptions). 4FRI continues to prioritize positions 
directly associated with fuels reduction on the ground and has 
experienced increased interest in these positions.
    Even with these innovative hiring strategies, there are locations 
like the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest that have a hard time 
recruiting and retaining candidates because of their comparative 
remoteness There is still ample opportunity for improvement in 
addressing agency quarters for entry-level employees in remote areas 
and we look forward to opportunities to discuss these and broader 
housing needs of the wildfire crisis strategy workforce with the 
committee.
    Question. Forest restoration treatments typically generate 
approximately 26 green tons of logs and 23 green tons of slash, or 
``biomass'' per acre. Biomass cannot be left on the ground after 
treatments as an accumulation of dry fuel would actually increase the 
fire risks, and it cannot be piled and burned in the field as the 
number of acres treated would generate unacceptable smoke and air 
quality issues. Even if only 75% of the slash is removed, and if only 
30,000 acres are treated per year, over 500,000 green tons of slash 
must be removed and disposed of each year.
    The only solution to dispose of this scale of biomass is to burn it 
under controlled-emissions conditions to generate electricity. This is 
not viable economically without the Forest Service providing for slash 
removal through a Service Contract. The current Service Contract with 
Novo Biopower in Northern Arizona was structured prior COVID and does 
not reflect post-COVID economic realities. What actions is the Agency 
taking to increase the funding of the Service Contract so that it meets 
the post-COVID increased slash removal costs, and that it remains 
funded for a full 10-year duration?
    Answer. Optimizing the pace and scale of our hazardous fuels 
reduction with increased costs will require use of all available tools 
, including prescribed fire and use of biomass for electricity 
generation. The Southwestern Region currently holds a Master 
Stewardship Agreement with NovoPower to help address the biomass 
concerns from restoration treatments. This agreement was signed in 2022 
to improve access to slash removal across the 4FRI landscape, beyond 
the historical operational footprint of NovoPower. The agreement 
includes a total of $20 million dollars. As of the spring of 2024, only 
$1.7 million had been spent due to accounting challenges associated 
with the unique nature of the agreement. The Regional Office met with 
NovoPower in March of 2024 to discuss ways to improve the distribution 
of funds to meet both the Agency's goals of increased fuels treatments 
and greater financial access for NovoPower. By April of 2024, the 
agreement was modified and we are optimistic it will immediately 
improve the economic viability of biomass removal across 4FRI.
    In addition to these direct actions, the Regional Office has 
engaged the utility companies that work with NovoPower to stress the 
importance NovoPower plays for fuels reduction work and watershed 
protection in Northern Arizona. The Agency appreciates the ongoing 
congressional support for opportunities like Wood Innovation Grants to 
continue to incentivize the research and development of solutions to 
remove biomass while reducing wildfire risk and supporting market 
opportunities.
    Question. During the April 10th hearing you stated that 4FRI has 
not been as successful as we need it to be'. Can you elaborate on this? 
What could USFS have done better to ensure the program was successful? 
What lessons were learned and are there examples of how those lessons 
learned have been utilized to turn things around?
    Answer. Specifically, the Agency recognizes that the first 10-year 
stewardship contract did not result in the on-the-ground wildfire risk 
reductions that both Arizonians and the Forest Service desired. In 
response, the Agency conducted a rigorous examination of the current 
and desired industry market conditions needed for 4FRI to be 
successful. We gained a deeper, more comprehensive understanding of 
those needs and are now better positioned to balance the needs of 
larger and smaller operators partnering with us on 4FRI. 4FRI 
collaborative efforts include strategically located treatments that 
have a direct nexus to 58 at-risk communities, safeguarding 572 miles 
of transmission lines, and protecting 124 watersheds. This aligns with 
the Agency's consistent approach to addressing the wildfire crisis.

  --For FY 2024, working collaboratively with our partners on the 4FRI 
        WCS Landscape, we've accomplished treatment of over 100,000 
        acres of hazardous fuels and commercially thinned acres.

  --In FY 2024, 4FRI's record 44,422-acre commercial timber offering 
        includes 16,354 acres from partner commitments through the Good 
        Neighbor Authority and other agreements, contributing 37% of 
        our program of work leveraged with BIL and IRA investments from 
        FY 2022 and FY 2023

  --The Forest Service is in regular (weekly) communications with 
        various industry partners and groups. In addition, the Region 
        meets regularly with non-industry and congressional partners on 
        4FRI.
    Question. In January 2021, USFS committed to high priority projects 
in the 4FRI landscape over the next 10 years. USFS commitment has been 
successful in attracting additional partner funding. What is USFS's 
budget strategy to ensure USFS completion of the 2021 4FRI funding 
commitments?
    Answer. The bottom line is that we have made great strides towards 
making American communities safer under the Wildfire Crisis Strategy 
(WCS) using a range of historic investments, including those provided 
by the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Inflation Reduction Act. 
We have shown that with investments from Congress, we can deliver on 
meaningful work to reduce the risk of catastrophic wildfires. We expect 
to see outcomes for multiple years from investments we are making now, 
and we continue to take new and innovative steps to achieve our goals 
under the strategy.
    Question. USFS announced several Keystone Agreements with various 
non-profit partners. Can you detail for me how the funding for these 
agreements will be used, what the expected outcomes are, the timeline 
for each agreement, and which Wildfire Crisis Strategy Priority 
Landscapes will benefit from these Keystone Agreements?
    Answer. Keystone agreements are partnership agreements and support 
the WCS, landscape restoration, and other pressing agency challenges. 
Any landscape or forest across the National Forest System can explore 
the option to tier to a keystone agreement. Current scope, timelines, 
and priority landscapes include:
    The Nature Conservancy partnership is active through March 2031 and 
focuses on wildfire risk reduction and ecosystem restoration through 
convening, workforce development, site prep, thinning, revegetation, 
roads, trails, and activities related to supporting work and certain 
on-the- ground, active management. Additional work includes supporting 
prescribed fire training, implementation, capacity building, science, 
and traditional ecological knowledge. WCS landscapes include: Colorado 
Front Range; Four Forest Restoration Initiative (4FRI).
    The National Forest Foundation partnership is active through March 
2043 and focuses on supporting Wildfire Crisis Strategy implementation 
and project needs; including resource surveys, watershed health 
improvement projects, road and trail maintenance, decommissioning, and 
reforestation. WCS landscapes include: Colorado Front Range; 4FRI; 
Kootenai; North Yuba; Plumas; San Carlos Apache; Southwest Idaho.
    The Trout Unlimited partnership is active through March 2027 and 
provides capacity for watershed restoration and climate resiliency 
projects, aquatic organism passage improvements, abandoned mine land 
reclamation, and related stream habitat projects across NFS lands and 
lands adjacent to partnering national forests and grasslands, where 
projects directly benefit aquatic resources on NFS lands.
    The Mule Deer Foundation partnership is active through March 2043 
(stewardship agreement) and active through February 2028 (participating 
agreement) and focuses on conserving migration corridors and seasonal 
habitats for big game and other species, vegetation management, 
hazardous fuels reduction, road and trail maintenance or 
decommissioning and more. WCS landscapes include: Colorado Front Range; 
Plumas; San Carlos Apache; Wasatch.
    The National Wild Turkey Federation partnership is active through 
September 2042 and works in alignment with the seven items under 
stewardship law; emphasis on fuels reduction activities in priority 
firesheds and forest products generated through restoration work that 
support industry infrastructure. WCS landscapes include: Colorado Front 
Range; 4FRI; Klamath River Basin.
    The Student Conservation Association partnership is active through 
June 2028 and focuses on workforce development including engaging crews 
and interns to support the Wildfire Crisis Strategy and Inflation 
Reduction Act priorities and developing a diverse and qualified future 
fire and fuels workforce culminating in Public Land Corps hiring 
authority eligibility. The WCS landscape includes North Yuba.
    The National Fish and Wildlife Foundation is active through August 
2028 and supports the America the Beautiful Challenge, which focuses on 
conserving, connecting, and restoring the Nation's lands, waters, and 
wildlife and consolidates funding from multiple Federal agencies and 
the private sector in helping locally led projects to address shared 
priorities across landscapes.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Katie Britt
    Question. Please provide an overview of U.S. Forest Service 
spending in each State, broken out with spending from FY23 
appropriations in total, FY23 appropriations spent on wildfire 
prevention, FY23 appropriations spend on firefighting, Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) spend through December 2023 in total, 
IIJA spend through December 2023 on wildfire prevention, IIJA spend 
through December 2023 on firefighting, Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) 
spend through December 2023 in total, IRA spend through December 2023 
on wildfire prevention, and IRA spend through December 2023 on 
firefighting.
    Answer. Attachment 1 to this QFR is the breakout of spending by 
Forest Service unit (Region, Station, Washington Office Unit) as well 
as wildfire suppression and Wildfire Crisis Strategy Landscape (WCSL) 
spending by State. The Forest Service's geographic spending breakout in 
its financial system is by organizational unit (e.g., region or 
station) and not by State. Some priority projects and programs such as 
our WCSL projects and wildfire suppression can be broken out by State 
so those are also included in the attachment as well.
    Question. Many finished wood products require a combination of 
domestically grown species with international species, the latter of 
which cannot be grown in the U.S. The U.S. Department of Agriculture 
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS), and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) 
are jointly responsible for overseeing processes with respect to 
clearing imported wood products at U.S. ports of entry. In recent 
years, coordination across the three agencies on allowing or declining 
imports has frustrated importers, leading to delays for U.S. importers 
and additional storage costs.
    To what extent does the U.S. Forest Service provide assistance in 
the current import process? From the Forest Service perspective, what 
could be done to provide a more efficient, clear process for clearing 
imported wood products through ports of entry?
    Please describe any wood testing, screening, or analyzing 
capabilities the Forest Service International Programs Office possesses 
that could be used to clear delays for importers. Please include 
details on costs or cost estimates, testing speed for samples, and any 
impediments to utilization of Forest Service capabilities by importers 
for quickly clearing imported wood products through ports of entry.
    Answer. US Forest Service International Programs' Wood 
Identification and Screening Center (USFS/IP WISC) provides wood 
species identification services to APHIS, CBP, and other agencies 
within Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice 
related to import inspections or enforcement matters. This service is 
also available to FWS, but this agency instead requests services from 
its National Fish and Wildlife Forensic Laboratory (which is co-located 
with USFS/IP WISC).
    The processing time for sample test results can vary, but initial 
confirmation of declared species can normally be completed within two 
business days.
    Regarding current impediments to utilizing USFS/IP WISC 
capabilities, many CBP and APHIS personnel are unfamiliar with these 
services or the process to access them. Currently, USFS/IP WISC 
receives samples at the discretion of CBP field office personnel. 
Starting in 2024, USFS/IP began directly outreaching to CBP Field 
Offices to provide information, training, and direct sampling support 
for wood products. As far as USFS/IP is aware, CBP and APHIS has not 
issued standard national guidance to submit samples for analysis at 
USFS/IP WISC.
    USFS/IP's support to the wood import screening and processes is 
also impeded by the inaccessibility of CBP and APHIS data resources, 
including the Lacey Act Declaration Information System. If these data 
were available to USFS/IP, the office's trade economists and wood 
specialists could provide more advice to partner agencies on targeting 
and risk assessment of imported cargo, to focus inspections and 
sampling on high-risk containers.
    Regarding cost, USFS/IP WISC has collaborated with CBP and APHIS 
without requesting reimbursement from the partner agencies, as these 
operations are supported by the Forest Service's International Programs 
and Trade Compliance budget line item. Due to the previously described 
impediments, USFS/IP WISC's capacity has exceeded the volume of 
requests from CBP, APHIS, and interagency partners. However, if these 
impediments were resolved, the full demand of these services would 
likely exceed current USFS/IP WISC's capacity.
    USFS/IP does not have access to the necessary data to assess the 
total potential demand from interagency partners. However, USFS/IP 
estimates that one WISC laboratory center can test 10,000 samples per 
year and that one center would cost approximately $3,000,000 per year, 
inclusive of personnel, equipment, facilities, and other costs.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Merkley. [Whereupon, at 11:56 a.m., Wednesday, 
April 10, the subcommittee adjourned subject to the call of the 
Chair.]



     DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES 
                  APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                         WEDNESDAY, MAY 1, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:03 p.m. in 
Room 192, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Jeff Merkley, 
(chairman) presiding.
    Present: Senators Merkley, Murray, Tester, Van-Hollen, 
Heinrich, Peters, Sinema, Murkowski, Capito, Hoeven, Fischer, 
and Britt.

                    ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL S. REGAN, ADMINISTRATOR

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JEFF MERKLEY

    Senator Merkley. Today, we convene to review the 
Environmental Protection Agency proposed budget for fiscal year 
2025, as well as the agency's ongoing role in critical issues 
affecting our environment and our health.
    As stewards of this planet, it is our duty to protect it 
not only from pollution, but from the ravages of 
shortsightedness and neglect. Yet, as we gather here today, we 
are confronted with a stark reality, a reality that our 
commitment to environmental protection has been undermined by 
the decisions of fossil, gas, and oil industry that are 
prioritizing profit over the well-being of our planet and the 
well-being of our people.
    Administrator Regan, I commend you for your dedication to 
public service. The challenges we face demand bold action and 
unwavering resolve. Let me start with the topic of methane. The 
alarming rise in methane emissions poses a significant threat 
to our climate and to our public health.
    Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, sometimes referred to 
as natural gas, but there is nothing natural about it once it 
is taken out of the ground. It is pouring fuel on a fire of 
climate chaos and making extreme weather more frequent and more 
devastating.
    We know that EPA estimates of methane emissions are far 
lower than what are being observed with the latest monitoring 
tools. So, we need better modeling, better modeling using 
better technology.
    We can't use old estimates to justify projects that 
shouldn't be justified. Thankfully, EPA has finalized the Super 
Emitter Program, well done, and created the Methane Emission 
Reduction Program through the Inflation Reduction Act.
    Together, the Super Emitter Program and the Methane 
Emissions Reduction Program have the potential to significantly 
reduce methane emissions from oil and gas wells, but only if we 
use modern technologies.
    I am deeply concerned that EPA, given its deep expertise 
regarding human health impacts, has deferred its role in 
obtaining and securing the technology that has been funded 
through the work of Congress. It is important to ensure we 
maximize the Super Emitters Program in taking on this 
challenge, and we are also learning more about methane from 
landfills.
    Landfills provide an important, cost effective opportunity 
for us to reduce emissions now, and EPA needs to take a look at 
and update its regulations regarding landfills. Now, next, 
wildfires. In Oregon, we see wildfires becoming more powerful, 
more ferocious, and the wildfire season being longer, and that 
is a challenge.
    In that challenge, citizens are much more willing to use 
prescribed fire as a tool in our arsenal to protect our towns 
and our cities. It mitigates the risk of catastrophic blazes, 
and we need both strong science based standards for clean air 
and regulatory clarity for events like prescribed fire.
    If the particles that are in the air from prescribed fire 
are then used to force communities to adopt stronger standards 
on other things, as if that was the same particles from a 
natural fire, then there is an incentive for these communities 
not to use prescribed fire, which makes the whole situation 
worse.
    So that is a piece that I hope we will take on. Plastic 
pollution and toxic chemicals pose another formidable 
challenge. We know we are failing in our vulnerable 
communities, especially on the Gulf Coast, which are being 
overburdened by toxic chemicals from plastic production. We 
need to do more to protect those communities.
    On this committee, I will do all I can to increase EPA 
funding so we can implement and enforce our existing laws 
better, but then EPA must act. One place where it can start, 
EPA can start by reexamining significant impact levels for air 
quality standards for permitting petrochemical facilities.
    The evidence is clear that the substances that are 
carcinogenic to humans and States have abused the permitting 
process, to the detriment of frontline communities. Let's not 
impose even more pollutants on those frontline communities.
    This is a key issue of environmental justice. I was in 
Ottawa last week for the inter-governmental negotiating 
committee meeting where countries from around the world are 
gathered to reach agreement to address the plastic crisis.
    Plastics, which are choking our oceans, our rivers, our 
landfills. Plastics, which are being digested by marine life 
and land life, infect our ecosystems. Plastic, which in its 
micro form and nano form are providing even more dangerous 
pollution and it is infiltrating our food and water, even 
breast milk; meanwhile, leaching dangerous chemicals into the 
organizations--organisms that digest it, including us.
    It is estimated that each of us consumes about a credit 
card of plastic a week. Plastic is an endocrine disruptor and 
has strong associations with a series of health issues. So, we 
are encouraging our Government to take the ambitious track in 
having a vision for an international treaty on plastics that 
will result in measurable goals, with accountability for 
reaching those goals.
    Right now, our State Department is saying they want a Paris 
structure where everyone says we will go and do our best. Going 
and doing our best hasn't worked on climate and it won't work 
on plastics, so we need to have a more concrete, detailed 
approach, and there is a whole group of nations that are 
seeking to have concrete goals and measurable results and 
accountability, and we should join them and encourage EPA to 
help us pivot to be part of the solution in that area.
    I want to turn to EPA's new method of testing for 6PPD-
quinone. This is a chemical in tires, and it was found to be a 
chemical that has a huge impact on salmon. And there was a 
whole mystery as to why after rainstorms, there was a die off, 
and finally it was traced to the runoff from parking lots with 
tire dust.
    This is a big deal for us, and it is not an easy thing to 
address, but identifying and understanding it is a great first 
step in that direction. So, I encourage EPA to continue down 
that road, not just to understand the chemical and what 
alternatives there might be, what the impact of those 
alternatives might be, how we can cure this problem, because it 
is a big environmental impact that few of us were aware of 
until the last couple of years.
    So, as we go forward, let's continue to have an ambitious 
approach or a more ambitious approach to taking on these 
multiple challenges. We need an international treaty that 
decreases plastics, plastics that are produced, plastics that 
get into our waterways, plastics that get into our ecosystems 
and into our bodies.
    We need to continue our work on toxic chemicals through 
TSCA, and not have it take a decade to address a single toxic 
chemical and an overly complicated system. I am concerned that 
EPA's staffing levels have dropped 20 percent over the last 13 
years. It makes it a lot harder to do all this work on very 
complicated issues when you are understaffed.
    So, thank you for being a strong advocate for having the 
team that you need, and certainly that resonates with me and 
with many of us. In 2010, you had 17,300 FTEs at EPA. Since 
then, we are down to 14,000--3,300 people with a lot more 
complicated work to do now than then.
    I am pleased that the fiscal year 2025 request would 
increase permanent positions by more than 2,000 FTEs, which 
would start to rebuild the permanent capacity EPA needs. Those 
Americans with the least resources who have chronically 
suffered from injustice are often most affected by pollution, 
toxic chemicals, and climate chaos.
    So, I say, well done to having $100 million for 
environmental justice in the fiscal year 2024 bill. You all 
advocated, and we delivered. But I know that on environmental 
justice front, a lot more remains to be done. I will now turn 
to my colleague, Ranking Member Murkowski, for her comments.

                  STATEMENT OF SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI

    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Administrator 
Regan, thank you, and I appreciate the opportunity to discuss 
EPA's fiscal year 2025 budget request with you. I know that we 
had hoped to have a little bit of a conversation ahead of this, 
and travel interrupts just about everything around here.
    So, thank you for the time that you are going to spend with 
the committee here today. I want to appreciate and thank you 
publicly for the good working relationship that my office has 
enjoyed with you and your office. You know, there are, not 
surprising, going to be policy disagreements on many matters.
    That is just the nature of it. Some of the rulemakings that 
the agency has undertaken, I will mention some of those that I 
have concerns with, but I really do honestly appreciate the 
work that we have done together. I think you and your team have 
been forthright with us.
    You have been helpful in bringing historic levels of 
infrastructure investment to Alaska and really trying to solve 
some long term problems that we have faced with. And I just 
appreciate the efforts there.
    I will share though, the concerns, some of the concerns 
that I have about some of the--what I consider to be regulatory 
overreach that we have seen out of the agency on some of these 
national rulemakings, including the updated final WOTUS rule, 
the vehicle emissions rules, the final power plant rules.
    I have shared before the final WOTUS rule fails to reflect 
the uniqueness of Alaska and unfortunately will have 
disproportionate harm within my State. Congress has recent--has 
directly expressed its disapproval on many of the agency's 
recent broad rulemakings.
    I think the court is going to decide the outcome of many of 
these rules, but I have been disappointed that the agency did 
not reach consensus on these issues and instead moved ahead 
with a heavier handed action in a unilateral fashion.
    In addition to concerns over these national rulemakings, I 
would like to speak to several regulatory actions that are more 
specific to Alaska. First, as you know, we have had many 
conversations about this, but this is the potential enforcement 
actions that the agency may take against the State of Alaska 
and the Fairbanks North Star Borough regarding PM2.5 
emissions.
    Again, one of these longstanding issues that has been out 
there. But you have heard me say many times before that I think 
that the agency's mishandling of the residential woodstove 
testing, and certification program has played a role in what we 
are seeing in elevated emissions in the region. I have worked 
pretty hard to get additional support.
    We have secured tens of millions of dollars through the 
Targeted Air Shed Grant for woodstove change outs, so the 
agency's failures on this issue continue to be frustrating. So 
as this matter continues, I would fully expect the EPA to work 
closely with the State and the Borough and to incorporate their 
feedback.
    And then finally, I would just ask that your team sit down 
with my staff to discuss the reforms of the woodstove heater 
program and perhaps identify some creative funding solutions 
that we can undertake. We want to work to reduce the air 
emissions in that region.
    And it is important. I think we recognize that. But how we 
get there in a place where you have so few options and 
alternatives has been a real challenge. I have been concerned 
about potential regulations the agency may propose on small 
aircraft that we see used very commonly around Alaska.
    In so many parts of the State, as you know, we don't have 
the roads, so we rely on aviation, and so much of it is very 
small aviation. In October of last year, EPA announced an 
endangerment finding for leaded aviation gas, which is used to 
operate the piston engine aircraft.
    These are the small planes that carry roughly, you know, 2 
to 10 passengers. But we rely so heavily on these types of 
aircraft for travel around the State, moving people, moving 
basic necessities.
    And so, if EPA promulgates what would be unnecessarily 
strict standards for these lead emissions from these particular 
aircraft without considering the unique needs and the 
challenges that are specific within this State, Alaska could 
really, really be crippled by supply chain issues, travel 
disruptions as air carriers are literally forced out of 
existence because they don't have any other place to go, and 
that is a real concern.
    So, how the agency considers these unique needs in a State 
like Alaska before undertaking any issue is more that I would 
like to discuss with you. And then finally, to briefly talk 
about the 301(h) waivers for certain communities in Southeast 
Alaska.
    As these communities face meeting new State and Federal 
standards, I would hope that the agency will work closely with 
us to provide a pathway for these smaller communities to make 
economically feasible upgrades to their wastewater systems. 
Again, they want to make sure that they have good water 
systems.
    But it takes their breath away when they look at what they 
may be facing from a cost perspective. So, turning to 
investments in Alaska. Again, I want to thank you and those in 
the agency for your leadership on Alaska Native Claims 
Settlement Act (ANCSA) contaminated lands. It has been decades 
of Federal inaction on this true environmental injustice to 
Alaskan Native communities.
    And the Federal Government, with EPA's leadership, is 
finally providing resources to assess and clean up these 
contaminated lands. In the 2 years since we started working 
together on this issue, $190 million is now available to Alaska 
Native communities and organizations for contaminated lands 
remediations.
    So, it has been $40 million through the new annual grant 
and $150 million in one-time funding through EPA's Community 
Change Grant Program. But I know that securing these resources 
took some creative thinking and real commitment to the issues.
    You made that commitment to me, you carried through with 
that, and again, I thank you and your efforts, as well as those 
of your team members both here in Washington and in Region 10. 
It is deeply appreciated.
    Last year, in my opening statement, I spoke at length to 
the agency's poor performance in handling and processing 
congressionally directed spending projects. I wish that I could 
say a year later we are in a better place on that, but I can't 
see that significant progress has been made.
    I think it is unacceptable that the vast majority of fiscal 
year 2022 and 2023 projects remain unrewarded. And what we see 
with the delay in awarding these projects is substantial impact 
on the communities, the Congressional intent, and the cost of 
the projects.
    So, with the recent passing of the fiscal year 2024 
Interior Approps Act, the agency's workload on these projects, 
I think, is extensive. You know that. But the backlog in 
processing these projects just simply has to be reduced.
    So, we are going to keep urging you on this, but I would 
ask that you do everything that you can to again reduce this 
backlog and do so quickly. I am absolutely ready to be a 
constructive partner in getting these projects out the door 
into the designated communities, so let me know how I can help.
    One of the ways is I hear from people back in my home 
State, I am sure that other colleagues do as well, and when we 
call you up, we get attention to the matter, but it shouldn't 
have to be that way.
    So, let's work together on that. I will close by just 
telling you I appreciate that you have come to Alaska. You have 
worked with me on a number of important issues to my State and 
to my constituents.
    And I know we will continue to work together, but I hope 
that you and the agency will respond to and address some of the 
concerns that I have raised in my statement today, and we will 
have opportunity in the following questions.
    But Alaska is a great time to come and visit. And you are 
welcomed back anytime. With that, Mr. Chairman, I thank you.
    Senator Merkley. I thank you very much. Now we turn to your 
testimony.

                SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL REGAN

    Mr. Regan. Well, Chair Merkley and Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and Chair Murray and Vice Chair Collins, and members 
of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear 
before you today to discuss the bold vision laid out in the 
United States EPA's proposed fiscal year 2025 budget request.
    Our partnership and open dialog with Congress is invaluable 
for EPA to carry out its mission and to protect public health 
and the environment. Over the last 3 years, we have been hard 
at work at EPA, and under President Biden's leadership, my 
agency has finalized protections that will bring 100 million 
people cleaner and safer drinking water, free from PFAS, and we 
have worked hard to right many of the historic wrongs 
communities have faced for generations.
    Through our critical rulemaking, we banned the last 
remaining kind of asbestos used in the country and issued final 
technology-based standards that will eliminate more than 6,000 
tons of toxic air pollution from chemical plants each year, 
slashing cancer causing pollution from covered processes and 
equipment by nearly 80 percent and reducing elevated cancer 
risk for those living near these facilities by 96 percent.
    EPA is committed to protecting public health and the 
environment for all of the American people. But more than just 
the powerful health impacts EPA is undertaking, my agency is 
working hard to implement the historic laws you passed and 
President Biden's Investing in America agenda.
    President Biden's Investing in America agenda has not only 
directed investments and communities nationwide, but it has 
generated nearly $700 billion in funding for private sector 
manufacturing and clean energy projects, creating good paying 
jobs and enhancing our global competitiveness.
    Together, President Biden's Investing in America agenda and 
EPA's 2025 budget request will continue to invest in 
environmental actions that will promote cleaner communities and 
produce economic benefits for years to come.
    Last August, during my Journey to Justice tour, I joined 
Senator Murkowski in Alaska to spotlight the environmental 
justice challenges of Alaska Native tribes. We met with tribal 
leaders and heard firsthand about the challenges facing the 
community, including climate impacts and adaptation, food 
security, and water infrastructure.
    And the President's Investing in America agenda is helping 
to fund projects that address these concerns while benefiting 
federally recognized tribes all across the State. President 
Biden's proposed fiscal year 2025 budget request for EPA 
provides nearly $11 billion to advance key priorities for the 
American people, including protecting air quality, cleaning up 
pollution, upgrading the nation's aging water infrastructure, 
urgently fighting the climate crisis, and advancing 
environmental justice.
    Millions of people across the country are still grappling 
with the effects of poor air quality, perpetuating harmful 
health and economic impacts. In fiscal year 2025, EPA will 
improve air quality for communities by reducing emissions of 
ozone forming pollutants, particulate matter, and air toxics.
    The President's budget includes $1.3 billion to improve air 
quality for communities all across the country, to reduce 
exposure to dangerous levels of radiation, and to leverage 
regulatory tools and public and private sector partnerships 
that promote environmental stewardship and encourage the 
adoption of cost-effective technologies and practices.
    EPA's work to set these standards provides certainty to 
industry, builds on the advancements in technology, and 
reinforces market movement that reduces power plant emissions 
without sacrificing reliability and affordable energy. Clean 
and safe water is the foundation for healthy communities and a 
thriving economy.
    Although substantial progress has been made, many areas 
across our nation still face significant barriers and 
challenges to achieving this collective goal. Aging water 
infrastructure, the effects of lead pipes, cybersecurity 
threats to water systems, climate change, and emerging 
contaminants such as PFAS all pose dangerous health risks to 
our nation's water supply and the American people.
    EPA's budget request includes a total of $101 million for 
two EPA grants dedicated to remediating lead contaminated 
drinking water. From investing in clean air to cleaning up 
contaminated land and water, there is no shortage of important 
work to be done. Members of the committee, EPA is up for the 
task.
    We are eager to work with all of you to deliver for our 
fellow Americans and to secure our nation's global 
competitiveness. But we need your support. The fiscal year 2025 
President's budget continues the historic progress and 
investments made by the Biden-Harris Administration and 
positions EPA to advance our vital mission of protecting public 
health and the environment, championing environmental justice, 
and tackling the climate crisis.
    Thank you all for the opportunity to be here today to 
submit testimony for the record, and I look forward to our 
continued partnership to achieve these ambitious yet necessary 
goals, and I welcome all questions. Thank you all.
    [The statement follows:]
              Prepared Statement of Hon. Michael S. Regan
    Thank you, Chairman Carper, Ranking Member Capito, and members of 
the Committee. I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you today 
to discuss the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) proposed 
Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget request. In our FY 2025 Budget request, we 
provide the resources needed to advance a cleaner, healthier, and more 
equitable Nation where all people have equal access to safe and clean 
water, air, land, chemicals, and communities.
                 the fy 2025 president's budget request
    The President's FY 2025 Budget for EPA requests nearly $11 billion 
to advance the key priorities outlined in the FY 2022-FY 2026 EPA 
Strategic Plan, including urgently tackling the climate crisis, 
advancing environmental justice, protecting air quality, cleaning up 
pollution, upgrading the Nation's aging water infrastructure, and 
building the Agency's core capacity to carry out its vital mission. The 
President's FY 2025 Budget adheres to the discretionary spending levels 
set by the Fiscal Responsibility Act and continues to build on the 
historic progress and investments made by this Administration. EPA is 
committed to providing robust support to our Tribal, State, and local 
partners, with more than $4.5 billion in grants that directly reach 
these communities. The Budget adds more than 2,000 Full Time 
Equivalents (FTE) across program and regional offices, bringing EPA 
back to more than 17,000 FTE, to ensure that the agency has the 
workforce to protect human health and the environment across the 
Nation.
                  urgently tackling the climate crisis
    In FY 2025 EPA will continue to prioritize tackling climate change 
with the urgency that science demands by investing nearly $3 billion in 
climate-related programs. EPA requests an additional $19.3 million and 
14.5 FTE for climate adaptation efforts to strengthen the adaptive 
capacity of Tribes, States, territories, local governments, 
communities, and businesses. In addition, the Budget requests an 
increase in State and local air quality management grants to help 
expand the efforts of air pollution control agencies to implement the 
Clean Air Act (CAA). We will leverage an additional $65 million to 
implement the American Innovation in Manufacturing (AIM) Act to 
continue phasing out hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs).
    EPA also requests an additional $5 million to provide 
administrative support to implement the historic $27 billion Greenhouse 
Gas Reduction Fund (GGRF), enacted through the IRA. EPA recently 
released funding opportunities for three grant competitions through the 
GGRF: the $14 billion National Clean Investment Fund, the $6 billion 
Clean Communities Investment Accelerator, and the $7 billion Solar for 
All competition. With the requested enhanced administrative support, 
EPA will be able to more effectively and efficiently administer 
competitive grants to mobilize financing and leverage private capital 
for clean energy and climate projects that reduce greenhouse gas (GHG) 
emissions with an emphasis on projects that benefit low-income and 
disadvantaged communities.
                    elevating environmental justice
    The Budget bolsters the Agency's efforts to achieve environmental 
justice in communities across the Nation by investing nearly $1.5 
billion in environmental justice-related programs. This investment 
supports the implementation of the President's Justice40 commitment, 
which ensures at least 40 percent of the benefits of Federal 
investments in climate and clean energy as well as infrastructure work 
reach disadvantaged communities, including rural and Tribal 
communities.
    In FY 2025, EPA requests more than $324 million and 265 FTE for the 
Environmental Justice Program, an increase of $216 M and 41 FTE above 
the current levels, to expand support for community-based 
organizations, indigenous organizations, Tribes, States, local 
governments, and territorial governments to identify and develop 
solutions to environmental justice issues through multi-partner 
collaborations. Included in this increase is $36.5 million to scale up 
capacity- building grants to more communities, governmental partners, 
and academic institutions; and nearly $70 million and 39.3 FTE to 
continue building out the community-centered technical assistance hubs 
established in FY 2023, ensuring that the network provides robust 
coverage across the United States. In partnership with the U.S. 
Department of Energy, EPA has opened 17 Thriving Communities Technical 
Assistance Centers (TCTACs), three of which are dedicated to assist 
Tribes, with the goal of strengthening EPA's partnership with Tribal 
Nations to deliver much- needed infrastructure investments to Tribal 
communities.
    EPA's goal is to ensure that environmental programs inside Indian 
Country are as robust and protective as those same programs outside of 
Indian Country. The Budget requests $25 million to establish a new 
Direct Implementation Tribal Cooperative Agreements Program, with $13 
million of this funding dedicated to making Tribes more resilient to 
climate impacts. This unique funding vehicle will allow EPA to fund 
Tribes to implement Federal environmental programs in Indian Country. 
Since its creation by Congress in 2001, DITCAs have been proven 
successful as a tried- and-true method of providing Federal support 
directly to Tribes however at a limited scale due to a lack of 
dedicated funding. Once established, this program will be able to 
maximize the use of DITCAs and expand its access to reach more 
underserved communities in Indian Country. This program is expected to 
at least double the number of Tribes receiving EPA assistance for 
direct implementation activities while providing needed multi-media 
environmental protections.
                      enforcing environmental laws
    Enforcing and ensuring compliance of our Nation's environmental 
laws is foundational to achieving EPA's mission. EPA holds, and will 
continue to hold, bad actors accountable for their violations, with a 
particular focus on communities with multiple pollution sources. In FY 
2025, the Budget invests $260 million for civil enforcement efforts, 
such as increasing enforcement efforts in communities with high 
pollution exposure and preventing the illegal importation and use of 
hydrofluorocarbons in the United States. The Budget also requests $172 
million for compliance monitoring efforts, including funds to conduct 
inspections in underserved and overburdened communities and rebuilding 
the inspector corps. Additionally, the Budget directs $77 million for 
criminal enforcement efforts to pursue investigations of the most 
egregious environmental cases and to support a specialized Criminal 
Enforcement Initiative focused on addressing environmental justice 
issues in partnership with the Department of Justice (DOJ). In FY 2025, 
EPA will implement the National Enforcement and Compliance Initiatives 
to target these investments at the most serious environmental 
violations.
           ensuring clean and healthy air for all communities
    Poor air quality still affects millions of people across the 
country, perpetuating harmful short- and long-term health and quality 
of life impacts. In FY 2025, EPA will improve air quality for 
communities by reducing emissions of ozone-forming pollutants, 
particulate matter, and air toxics. The President's Budget includes 
$1.3 billion to improve air quality for communities across the country, 
to reduce exposure to radiation, and to leverage regulatory tools and 
public and private sector partnerships that promote environmental 
stewardship and encourage adoption of cost- effective technologies and 
practices. In FY 2025, EPA will make critical resource investments in 
air regulatory development and implementation work, including $269 
million to develop and implement programs such as the National Ambient 
Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) to reduce air pollution from vehicles, 
engines, and fuels. EPA's work to set these standards provides 
certainty to industry, builds on advances in technology, and reinforces 
market movement towards a cleaner energy system that provides reliable 
and affordable energy. Additionally, the Budget provides $100 million 
to expand the availability of Diesel Emissions Reduction Act (DERA) 
grants and rebates to include funds to replace existing school buses 
with low- and zero-emission buses.
    Recognizing the need to further support Tribal, State, and local 
partners, the Agency is requesting $423 million in grants to expand 
efforts in implementing air quality management programs that support 
on-the-ground efforts to address GHG emissions while building on core 
work such as air quality training and air toxics monitoring. EPA will 
continue to build on its historic progress in protecting human health 
and the environment from the harmful effects of air pollution and work 
to assure clean air for all Americans, with a particular focus on those 
in underserved and overburdened communities.
           achieving clean and safe water for all communities
    Clean and safe water is a foundation for healthy communities and a 
thriving economy, and EPA is committed to ensuring clean and safe water 
for all. While progress is being made, it is clear that the Nation 
still faces significant barriers and challenges achieving this goal, 
including access to safe and clean water, aging infrastructure, 
replacement of lead pipes, cybersecurity threats to water systems, 
climate change, and management of public health risks of emerging 
contaminants of concern, such as PFAS.
    In FY 2025, EPA will continue our work with federal, Tribal, State, 
and nongovernmental partners to advance water quality science, provide 
clean and safe water for all communities, and protect our Nation's 
waterbodies from degradation. The Budget provides $2.4 billion for 
EPA's Drinking Water and Clean Water State Revolving Funds (SRF) and 
$334 million for a range of grant programs authorized or modified in 
the America's Water Infrastructure Act (AWIA), the Water Infrastructure 
Improvement for the Nation (WIIN) Act, and the Drinking Water and 
Wastewater Infrastructure Act (DWWIA). These resources complement funds 
provided for water infrastructure programs in the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law (BIL). To further the President's goal of 
replacingall lead pipes within the next decade, the Budget proposes 
nearly $101 million for two grants dedicated to Reducing Lead in 
Drinking Water and Lead Testing in Schools.
    Also included is $80 million to support the Water Infrastructure 
Finance and Innovation Act (WIFIA) loan program. As of December 2023, 
EPA has issued 120 WIFIA loans to communities across the country 
totaling over $19 billion in credit assistance to help finance more 
than $43 billion for water infrastructure projects. WIFIA loans for 
these projects have saved communities nearly $7 billion, which can be 
used for additional infrastructure investment and to keep rates 
affordable for water system users. These WIFIA-financed projects have 
created over 140,000 jobs and benefited more than 63 million people, 
demonstrating that WIFIA credit assistance is an effective tool to help 
address a variety of water infrastructure needs to support communities 
nationwide.
    The Budget also requests $30 million for a new program that 
addresses gaps in resources to help improve Federal response to water-
related emergencies where water quality poses a risk to public health. 
This new program will expand EPA's capabilities both at the 
headquarters and in the regional offices and establish a water 
emergency fund that provides direct assistance to affected communities 
which could be in the form of bottled water, filters, and trained 
personnel to operate or manage drinking water and wastewater services, 
among other essential tasks. The agency also requests new authority 
under the Safe Drinking Water Act 1442(b) to provide technical 
assistance and grants to any appropriate recipient that is not a State 
or a publicly owned water system.
    To help deliver on President Biden's commitment to tackling PFAS 
pollution and to accelerate EPA's PFAS Strategic Roadmap, the FY 2025 
Budget requests an additional $60 million to increase our understanding 
of PFAS and their human health and ecological effects; restrict PFAS 
use to prevent new PFAS pollutants from entering the air, land, water; 
and remediate PFAS that have been released into the environment, the 
agency is taking a comprehensive approach to tackling PFAS pollution 
across the country. For example, the agency has finalized its PFAS 
drinking water regulation and is monitoring for PFAS in public water 
systems. EPA plans to propose an effluent limitation guideline rule for 
organic chemical manufacturing, metal finishing/electroplating, and 
landfills industrial point source categories. EPA has also finalized a 
rule to designate PFOA and PFOS as hazardous substances under Superfund 
and proposed to add multiple PFAS compounds as hazardous constituents 
under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA). These rules 
will strengthen protections for communities and better enable cleanup 
of lands contaminated with PFAS across the Nation. Additionally, the FY 
2025 Budget provides $289 million for the Section 106 Grants Program, 
which funds Tribal, State, and interstate water pollution control 
programs, and is critical funding for actions to identify, assess, and 
mitigate emerging contaminants in the environment like PFAS.
    From the Great Lakes to the Chesapeake Bay, from Lake Pontchartrain 
to the Puget Sound, the United States is home to water bodies of 
ecological, cultural, and economic significance. Through EPA's 
Geographic Water Programs, the Agency assists Tribes, state, and multi-
State partners to accelerate and manage the restoration of the 
ecological health of these water bodies. The Budget invests $682 
million to continue strong support for EPA's Geographic Water Programs 
to protect and restore these water bodies of special ecological and 
economic importance to the Nation. In FY 2025, EPA's Geographic 
Programs will deliver technical and financial assistance to solve 
problems and support healthy resilient ecosystems that address water 
quality, water infrastructure, nutrient pollution, habitat loss, treaty 
rights, equity, and environmental justice.
               safeguarding and revitalizing communities
    Preventing and cleaning up environmental pollution that harms 
communities and poses a risk to public health and safety continue to be 
a top priority for the Administration. Cleaning up America's most 
contaminated land and reducing exposure to toxic substances are 
critical components of the Agency's strategy to address human health 
impacts, particularly in underserved communities where many of these 
sites are located. The FY 2025 Budget enables EPA to continue to 
collaborate with Tribal, State, and local partners to improve the 
livelihood of all residents of the United States by addressing 
contaminated sites, including Superfund, brownfields, leaking 
underground storage tanks, and other waste sites and restoring them to 
productive use.
    The Department of the Treasury currently estimates that $2.2 
billion will be available to the EPA in Superfund tax receipts in FY 
2025. This funding, combined with annual appropriations, will enable 
the Superfund program to advance clean-up of the Nation's most 
contaminated land and respond to environmental emergencies and natural 
disasters. The Budget includes $300 million in the Superfund Remedial 
program to make more progress in communities across the Nation. This 
historic level of funding will allow EPA to advance critical Superfund 
pre-construction work such as site characterization, construction 
design, and community outreach/engagement. Additionally, this funding 
will allow EPA to continue to effectively and efficiently address 
situations that require emergency response and removal actions such as 
chemical releases, fires or explosions, natural disasters, and other 
threats to people from exposure to hazardous substances, including from 
abandoned and uncontrolled hazardous waste sites. The Budget also 
includes $208 million for EPA's Brownfields programs to provide grants 
and technical assistance to communities so they can plan, inventory, 
assess, safely clean up and reuse contaminated properties, as well as 
$20 million for the Alaska Contaminated Lands program. Taken together, 
these investments will ensure EPA is cleaning up sites and fully 
engaging the communities we serve in the process.
    ensuring the safety of chemicals for people and the environment
    Chemicals and toxic substances are ubiquitous in our everyday lives 
and are often released into the environment from their manufacture, 
processing use, or disposal. EPA has significant responsibilities under 
amendments to the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) to ensure the 
safety of chemicals in or entering commerce and addressing unreasonable 
risks to human health or the environment. EPA's work in managing 
chemical safety and toxic substances is particularly important to 
vulnerable populations, including low-income, minority, and indigenous 
populations, as well as children, who may be disproportionately 
affected by, and particularly at risk from, exposure to chemicals. The 
FY 2025 Budget requests $132 million for the TSCA Program, an increase 
of $49 million above current levels so the agency has the resources 
needed for the Program. These resources will support EPA-initiated 
chemical risk evaluations, protective regulations in accordance with 
statutory timelines, and establish a pipeline of priority chemicals for 
risk evaluation.
    The agency has significant responsibility under the Federal 
Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) to screen new 
pesticides before they reach the market and ensure pesticides already 
in commerce are safe. In addition, EPA is responsible for complying 
with the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and ensuring that federally 
endangered and threatened species are not harmed when the agency 
registers pesticides. To continue making progress toward meeting ESA 
mandates in FY 2025, the Budget includes an additional $29 million for 
a total of $80 million in our environmental pesticides program. The 
Budget also includes $29 million for the Pollution Prevention Program 
to support businesses, Tribes, States, and other partners to promote 
and facilitate the adoption of approaches to improve multimedia 
environmental conditions and address climate impacts through reductions 
in pollutants and other hazardous materials, including an additional 
$7.8 million for a new grant program to help small businesses 
transitioning to TSCA compliant practices to mitigate economic impacts.
 continuing to build back critical capacity to carry out epa's mission
    Ensuring the Agency has the workforce it needs to carry out its 
mission is essential. The Budget adds more than 2,000 FTE relative to 
the current level, for a total of more than 17,000 FTE, to help rebuild 
EPA's core capacity. The Budget also will dedicate resources to 
continue strengthening the agency's ability to recruit, hire, develop, 
promote, and retain top talent and remove barriers to equal opportunity 
at management and staff levels to strengthen and advance diversity, 
equity, inclusion, and accessibility.
    In FY 2025, the Agency requests an additional $3.8 million to 
expand an existing paid internship program across the Agency to 
strengthen talent and workforce acquisition. A commitment to follow the 
science underpins EPA's work, and the Budget includes approximately $1 
billion for the Science and Technology account, an increase of more 
than $200 million above current levels, that will ensure programs have 
the best available data to inform decisions.
                               conclusion
    All people deserve clean air, clean water, and safe land on which 
to live. This is the core of EPA's mission and is a worthy investment 
of Federal resources. The FY 2025 President's Budget continues the 
historic progress and investments made by this Administration and 
positions the EPA to advance our vital mission of protecting human 
health and the environment, championing environmental justice, and 
tackling the climate crisis. With these investments we lay the 
groundwork to ensure the benefits of a cleaner environment for future 
generations.
    Thank you for the opportunity to be here today. I look forward to 
our continued partnership and welcome any questions you may have.

    Senator Merkley. Great. Thank you very much. And I think we 
are going to have five minute sessions, which I will stop and 
not ask any more questions after my five minutes have expired 
and I will ask everyone else to do the same. I want to start 
with this issue of measuring methane.
    Back in fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024, we provided 
funding to the EPA to be able to address what they said was 
their challenge. What was their challenge? Their challenge was 
they said, we need to be able to digest information more 
effectively and validate it. And then the Inflation Reduction 
Act provided $850 million for methane detection and monitoring, 
yet nothing has been done.
    Not one bit of satellite data has been acquired by the EPA, 
and yet methane is a massive global warming gas. So, this is 
unacceptable. When is the EPA going to start taking methane 
seriously and develop a real program with the funds we have 
already provided?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you for the question, Senator. We 
are absolutely taking methane very seriously. I think the oil 
and gas rule specifically establishes, for the first time ever, 
emission control standards for methane for this sector. And so, 
our enforcement will make sure that facilities are meeting 
these standards.
    We have received approximately $15 million to support 
methane enforcement. With those resources, we are developing a 
data system to collect and publish information about methane 
super emitters. We are purchased in advance monitoring 
equipment for those inspections.
    And, you know, as far as the Methane Emissions Reduction 
Program, you know, February 2023, we issued a notice of intent 
for a second solicitation for competitive opportunities, and 
eligible opportunities are satellites to help characterize and 
quantify methane emissions, retrofits for existing wells and 
infrastructure, and focusing on smaller operators, and 
accelerating deployment of innovative and near commercial 
technologies.
    We are also laser focused on landfill methane.
    Senator Merkley. Yes, we will turn to landfills in a 
moment, but here's the thing, when we pursued this with EPA and 
said, what is going on? EPA said, what we want to do is provide 
data using private funding, which is more resilient and 
efficient as a basis for this program. So, we provide you with 
$850 million.
    We say multi-level monitoring is incredibly important. 
Satellites are a key piece of that. And we get back, we want 
folks to go out and make donations to someone and then provide 
us with free data. That is a stalling tactic on this important 
issue, and it is just not acceptable asking, let's go out and, 
you know, put out our cap and say, someday, can somebody help 
us acquire methane information? This is a big deal.
    We have raised it repeatedly, and we need you all to get 
the process together and really start tracking--it is fine to 
say you are going to go and do a penalty program for super 
emitters, but you don't know what they are if you don't have 
the data. We have to understand this program across America.
    Meanwhile, the basic estimates that EPA continues to put 
out, which say that methane leakage is around 1.4 percent, are 
completely rejected by the scientific community as wholly 
understating the challenge.
    So, this inaction is sustaining bad information, resulting 
in bad decisions, and this needs to change. Can you commit to 
really focusing on this challenge in this coming year?
    Mr. Regan. I can absolutely commit to continuing the laser 
focus that we have. I am not quite sure I agree with inaction. 
I think that when you look at the regulations we have produced, 
when you look at the enforcement actions we have taken, and 
quite fairly in the Inflation Reduction Act, they gave us a 
timeline, you guys gave us a timeline to develop programs.
    One side focused on State grants, the other more so open to 
non-state entities, which require a certain level of 
development, implementation, and oversight. So, I believe that 
with the time we have been given and the resources we have been 
given, we are moving incredibly fast to match these resources 
with our enforcement and our regulatory.
    Senator Merkley. All right. I am just going to repeat once 
more, telling us that you are waiting for private charities to 
provide money to allow you to acquire information is totally 
unacceptable.
    Mr. Regan. Yes, I am not quite sure who is suggesting that 
we are soliciting private resources.
    Senator Merkley. This was the EPA's response to our 
previous questions about inaction in this area.
    Mr. Regan. I will circle with my team.
    Senator Merkley. Okay.
    Mr. Regan. I can assure you that,
    Senator Merkley. I am giving you a hard time on it because 
methane is such a huge factor in climate change. Thank you. 
That is my time.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Administrator 
Regan, as I mentioned in the statement, in my opening 
statement, I am concerned about the potential for these new 
standards for lead emissions for this smaller aircraft and the 
implications that it will have on a State like Alaska.
    As you know, the Alaska delegation is working to address 
this legislatively. We are hoping that we may be able to 
address this in the FAA bill that we will be moving to 
hopefully this afternoon. You have stated, or EPA has stated 
that it is committed to working together with a wide range of 
stakeholders on this.
    Know that I want to add my name to that list of 
stakeholders, but can you share with me exactly who in the 
State your teams have been reaching out to, who the 
stakeholders are? Because what I want to know and what I want 
to commitment on is that the agency is going to consider the 
fundamental needs of the State of Alaska at issue here before 
finalizing any potential rulemaking.
    So, it is important who you are talking to. And so, if you 
have available right now some of the stakeholders that you have 
been reaching out to, I would love to hear them. Otherwise, we 
will take that back.
    But where I am trying to get is we have to address this 
because I am going to have whole portions of the entire State 
will have no way in and no way out of their communities because 
there will be nobody to fly them.
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Well, Senator, first of all, let me say 
thank you for inviting me to Alaska to see first-hand for 
myself. I completely recognize the unique transportation needs 
for the State of Alaska.
    I just want to state that we have, by law and by 
requirement, looked at the endangerment finding of lead. Now 
that we have done that, we are beginning to start the process 
to evaluate what kinds of actions we need to take.
    And I can assure you that we will wholeheartedly engage 
you, your staff, and also the State of Alaska as we begin to 
move down the road of promulgating any rules that pertain to 
aviation and lead.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, and I look forward to that 
engagement. But again, when we talk about what environmental 
justice looks like, think about what it means to some of our 
very remote, very rural, primarily Alaska Native communities 
that will again be completely locked in, shut down. No way to 
gain access to health care. No way to gain access to public 
safety.
    So please know how significant this is. We are just in a 
different place than anybody else on this. And it kind of ties 
into what we have been trying to do with the situation with 
PM2.5 in Fairbanks. We all want to work to reduce the emissions 
issues, improve that air quality. I know the agency is working 
with the State of Alaska and the Borough on a path forward, but 
we are just very concerned about this threat out there of 
enforcement actions.
    And so, knowing what we have in front of us, the history, 
and again, the actions that have been taken, I am hoping that 
the agency is going to be responsive to the feedback from the 
State and the Borough in working through a State implementation 
program. But one of the areas where you do have full control, 
this is the residential wood heater program.
    Last year, the agency's Inspector General found the flaws 
and the problems within the program. So, can you share with me 
and others on the committee what steps you have taken to 
improve the wood heater testing and the certification program 
so that we can kind of at least clean up this part of it?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Well, I will say that we take all reviews 
by the IG very seriously. We took a look at the things that we 
can improve in terms of testing procedures, processes, the ways 
that we are communicating with the State of Alaska and those 
who rely on these technologies.
    I believe that we have found a way through, a process 
improvement but also relationship improvement. I have to say 
thank you. You have done a great job helping to reestablish 
some very strong relationships on the ground that quite frankly 
we need.
    We are listening directly to the communities, and we 
understand the role that we play in solving this problem. So, I 
can tell you that through procedural improvements and 
relationship improvements, I believe that we are well on our 
way to solving the problem.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, I know that you have given me that 
commitment, but we are going to have to get--we are going to 
have to be creative in some funding solutions for working to 
reduce these PM2.5 emissions going forward. My time has 
expired. I have got a lot more. I am going to look forward to 
those. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Senator Tester.
    Senator Tester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member for 
holding this hearing. And Administrator Regan, thank you for 
being here. I appreciate you coming forward to the committee 
today.
    Look, as a farmer, somebody whose family has been on this 
land since we broke--for over 114 years, I know the value of 
clean air and clean water. There is just no doubt about that. 
But I will tell you that the rules that come out of Washington, 
D.C. have to be rooted in reality. If you can't meet them, it 
really is a huge problem.
    And that is why I want to talk a little bit today about the 
MATS rule. Now, in this rule, you acknowledge that the only 
power plant this is really affecting is one in Colstrip, 
Montana, okay. That is the only one.
    You also acknowledge it will take hundreds of millions of 
dollars to meet the standards, and this is a power plant with 
the public depreciation date of 2042. You and I both know there 
is no way they make hundreds of millions of dollars in 
investment in a power plant that has that depreciation date.
    I would just tell you that when it comes to jobs, when it 
comes to this community, when it comes to power, this is all 
really important as we try to meet that happy medium between 
clean energy and clean air and clean water, okay. But in your 
role, you also provide additional flexibilities and I want to 
flesh that out a little bit.
    These are additional flexibilities to bring sources into 
compliance. It does go into detail on what these are. So, my 
question to you is what are--and don't filibuster me. I know 
you won't. But what are these additional flexibilities?
    Mr. Regan. Well, and I won't filibuster. I will say that 
the flexibilities that are in there are number one, different 
types of control technology options and combinations----
    Senator Tester. Yes.
    Mr. Regan [continuing]. timing and looking at some of the 
unique aspects of the State of Montana. We have had direct 
conversations with this facility.
    Senator Tester. Yes.
    Mr. Regan. And what I would say is, I am not quite sure if 
my team would agree that it would take $100 million of 
investment. I think if our teams, your team are talking with 
this facility, and we look at these combinations of control 
technologies that we have helped other States do, like Kentucky 
and Oklahoma, I believe that we can get there.
    Senator Tester. Okay. And then the question becomes, can we 
get there and still have it so that when it turns 40 below 
zero, we got power. You know, unfortunately, because of climate 
change, we don't have those times very often anymore, but we 
had one last winter.
    Mr. Regan. Yes.
    Senator Tester. And you know what happens with peak power 
prices and things like that when it--and if you don't have the 
juice, I am telling you, it is over with. You got big costs.
    So, my question, is there any thought since this only 
impacts one power plant in the United States, the whole damn 
country, just one power plant, of potentially moving the day 
forward and giving some flexibility to maybe 2032?
    Mr. Regan. Well, let me say I think it does impact more 
than one, but let's----
    Senator Tester. No, the rule actually points out it impacts 
one.
    Mr. Regan. Yes, 93 percent of coal plants in this country 
we believe will be able to meet.
    Senator Tester. Yes, and this is the one that won't.
    Mr. Regan. Let me say this, I would love for our staff to 
talk.
    Senator Tester. Okay.
    Mr. Regan. They have been having some very technical 
conversations.
    Senator Tester. Good.
    Mr. Regan. And I do believe there is a path.
    Senator Tester. We need to visit. Now, I want to make 
something really clear. I talked to a lot of people about this. 
There is nobody who said, let's just throw the rule out.
    We think this rule is a bunch of garbage and we should 
throw it out. All of them said, I see what they are trying to 
do. They just need to understand that a one size fits all rule 
doesn't necessarily work all the time.
    Mr. Regan. Yes.
    Senator Tester. Okay. And so, if you are willing to work 
with my staff, and we are willing to move this thing forward in 
a way that really ensures both climate--find that sweet spot, 
ensures both climate stability and energy stability without 
totally torching this community, it would be a big win for 
everybody, okay.
    Mr. Regan. Sounds good to me.
    Senator Tester. We thank you for that. It is--this is 
really, really important. And I get it. I mean, I get it. I 
understand climate. I mean, I have been through two of the 
worst droughts I have ever had on our farm, and that is in 114 
years, okay, and we are still ain't out of it by the way. It 
could be another one this year, and I hope not but it looks 
like it might be.
    So, making sure that this stuff works for everybody is 
really, really, really important. Appreciate you. My time has 
run out. I want to talk about Superfund sites too, but we will 
do that when we come in and talk about MATS, okay.
    Mr. Regan. That sounds great, Senator. Thank you.
    Senator Tester. All right.
    Senator Merkley. Senator Heinrich.
    Senator Heinrich. Thank you, Chairman. First, I want to 
thank you for the work the EPA has done to finalize the 
national drinking water standard with respect to PFAS. This is 
something that all of our colleagues are struggling with in 
their States.
    Can you kind of walk through this budget request and all 
the pieces and parts of where you are going to be able to make 
progress with respect to PFAS contamination as a result of this 
budget? And do you think it is adequate to meet the incredible 
challenges that we face with PFAS?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you, and it has been a combination 
of all of us and our staffs working together. This is an issue 
that doesn't know boundaries, political or State. In the final 
rule that we designed, we had input from over 120,000, serious 
people in the water sector.
    And what I will say is, as I said in my opening, we are 
going to, you know, reduce PFAS exposure to over 100 million 
people. And then we also announced at that same time, a $1 
billion grant, thanks to the bipartisan infrastructure law, to 
help some of our smaller communities comply with this rule.
    The reality is, is that we are focused on a number of PFAS 
in this first drinking water standard, and we have thousands 
more to focus on. So, we really need the resources and the 
staff to have a comprehensive approach of protecting our water 
quality from these forever chemicals.
    So, we would use that money to continue to collect the 
scientific evidence, look at how to design technology and 
health based standards to protect as many people as possible 
from different forms of this pervasive chemical.
    Senator Heinrich. I want to ask you an IRA related 
question. And those of us who have worked with Department of 
Energy for years and the loan program office, we know it took a 
long time to sort of build the muscles in that organization to 
be able to do the things that they are doing at scale now.
    The Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, the National Clean 
Investment Fund, these were things that were sort of created 
out of whole cloth in the IRA. Can you talk about 
implementation progress there and where are you going with 
that?
    Mr. Regan. We feel really good about the $27 billion 
Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, that $20 billion that is focused 
on those investments for clean technology and the $7 billion 
that is focused on Solar for All. Thankfully, you all had the 
wisdom in the law to give us the flexibility to add to the 
expertise that we already had.
    And so, we were able to use some of those resources to hire 
some of the expertise that helped us to design this program. 
But the program is also designed in a way where we are 
leveraging those in the private sector, those in the investment 
space who understand how to leverage capital.
    This is $27 billion that we think is going to pour hundreds 
of billions off the sideline. So, with those time limited 
positions, coupled with the EPA expertise, we believe that we 
created a really strong grant competition, and we are going to 
see the fruits of that labor.
    Feel really good about the metrics. Feel really good about 
the types of transparency that we built in. And, you know, we 
have invited our Inspector General and others to ensure that we 
have the transparency, and we are keeping an open book on that.
    So, I feel really good about where we are headed.
    Senator Heinrich. I look forward to more news on that front 
as you continue implementation. You know, the Supreme Court's 
Sackett decision last year had an impact on New Mexico that is 
outsized to most of the rest of the country.
    Over 90 percent of New Mexico's waterways were left without 
any protection from pollution or infill. And New Mexicans have 
worked really hard over the years to improve water quality and 
now are grappling with this new situation that is really 
untenable. How can the EPA work together with States like New 
Mexico to fill that gap?
    Mr. Regan. Well, it was a disappointing decision for a 
number of us, but I committed as Administrator to follow the 
science and follow the law. And the Sackett rule is very 
prescriptive.
    And so, for those who are feeling left out, you know, 
whether it is North Carolina, New Mexico, whomever, we are 
encouraging our States, tribes, and municipalities to use 
available resources that we have, such as our wetland program 
development grants.
    There are some other grants in BIL and IRA that we believe 
we can couple to fill some of those gaps. Listen, I will say I 
have pledged, and my staff is pledging that we will not leave 
any communities behind.
    And we know that there are some serious water quality 
issues. I don't believe that the decision from the Supreme 
Court helps. I think it complicates. But that being said, EPA, 
and the Army Corps, will follow the law.
    And with help that you all have given us through grants and 
resources, we believe we can plug those gaps with resources and 
technical expertise.
    Senator Heinrich. Great. I am out of time. I have got 
another question on rodenticides that I am going to give you 
for the record. If you could get back to us on that, that would 
be appreciate it.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. And now we will turn to Senator 
Van Hollen.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Administrator Regan, it is good to see you again. And I want to 
start by thanking you and the team at EPA for your help in the 
response to the Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore.
    EPA was on the scene with coordinators who worked with the 
unified command to assess potentially hazardous cargo aboard 
the Dali, and provide recommendations as needed on removal or 
recovery plan. So, thank you for lending that technical 
expertise needed to protect the public health.
    And I understand that Senator Heinrich raised the issue of 
the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund. I just want to thank you and 
the EPA for the rollout on that fund. And thank you for 
consulting with us during that process, your entire team, Jahi 
Wise. Please give him my best and others on the team who worked 
on that.
    It was a long journey since I first introduced the National 
Green Bank legislation I think in 2009 back in the House of 
Representatives, along with my friends and colleagues. And 
originally that provision was included on what was known as the 
Waxman Markey bill that we actually passed out of the House, 
but it died in the United States Senate. It does show what 
collective persistence will bring.
    So, the IRA has many good provisions. This is one of them. 
Thank you and your team for helping roll it out. I see in the 
budget you have got $5 million for sort of administrative 
oversight right now.
    If you could just talk very briefly about how you are going 
to use it. It seems to me we have to make sure we are on target 
to achieve our goals. One goal is the amount of greenhouse gas 
reduction that is going to be associated with this $27 billion 
fund total.
    The other is the equity lens and the share of that that 
needs to be invested in lower income communities that have been 
too often overlooked. And third, and very important, it has got 
to be self-sustaining. The idea was this is not just a pool of 
funds for grant monies. These are investments to be made that 
will get a return to go back in the fund and be self-
sustaining.
    So, number one, do you agree with those goals, and are you 
committed to providing the oversight to make sure that we are 
on track to achieve them?
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. I think you have helped me answer 
your question, which is we did receive some, what we consider 
to be time limited resources, to help design and stand up this 
program. But you are absolutely right, the execution and 
implementation in a transparent way, with the appropriate level 
of oversight, is an absolute necessity.
    So, to do justice to this brilliant idea that you and 
others had, that you have been working on for over 15 years, we 
want to be sure that we actually pool those hundreds of 
billions of dollars of private capital off the sideline.
    And it is just amazing that just with the solar program, we 
may reach over 900 thousand, close to 1 million homes, and so 
many people through the other $20 billion, low income, moderate 
income, who will actually see these resources as investments 
into the quality of their lives, their homes, and the like.
    We want to use the budget to ensure that we continue 
operating this program in the utmost transparent way that has 
the proper oversight and also the proper engagement with those 
we need to be engaging with.
    Senator Van Hollen. I appreciate that. And I am now going 
to turn to the Chesapeake Bay. I am sure you are not surprised 
that we would raise Chesapeake Bay clean up with you. And as 
you know, the Bay sort of watershed includes six States plus 
the District of Columbia.
    The most recent Bay cleanup agreement was signed in 2014 
and set a series of goals to improve the health of the Bay by 
the year 2025. It includes measurable objectives that have 
helped us track progress and take course corrections as 
necessary.
    And together with the 2010 total maximum daily load (TMDL), 
I gave the EPA the ability to serve as the backstop and step 
in, as you have in some respects, with Pennsylvania, to ensure 
compliance. So, Mr. Administrator, we are coming up fast in 
2025.
    We know as of today that we are not on track to hit those 
targets. So, my question is, will you and the EPA commit to 
start working with the States right now to set ambitious goals 
and targets to move the Bay clean up beyond the year 2025?
    Mr. Regan. You have my commitment on that.
    Senator Van Hollen. I appreciate that because we do need to 
get started. I am concerned that we are not on track to hit 
those targets, and I do not want this to drift any longer. So, 
I think the sooner we get to work, the better. And thank you 
for the commitment for EPA to be right there at the table from 
the start, helping pool people together.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Great. Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
Administrator, for being here today. Biofuels are a great 
market for Nebraska's farmers, and it provides clean burning 
and cheaper fuel for American families.
    Sustainable aviation fuel is another important potential 
market for Nebraska's biofuels. Secretary Vilsack has 
encouraged the biofuels industry to lean into that SAF market, 
saying to a group last year, ``I want you all to understand 
this is a critical moment, a make or break moment.
    And if it is not seized and not taken full advantage of, 
you may have a different conversation years from now.'' Well, 
yesterday, an interagency task force, which included your 
agency, released an updated Greenhouse gases, Regulated 
Emissions, and Energy use in Technologies (GREET) model to 
determine the carbon intensity of fuels for the credit.
    And I am still reviewing the updated model that you sent 
out, but it seems to mandate a set of conservation practices 
that corn, and soybean farmers must do in order for the SAF to 
qualify for the tax credit.
    Additionally, with this updated modeling, corn and soy 
based biofuels, even if they complete the additional 
conservation practices, would still be deemed more carbon 
intensive than Brazilian sugarcane ethanol. My concern is that 
this is going to lead to taxpayer dollars incentivizing imports 
of foreign fuel.
    So, Administrator, I would hope that the Biden 
Administration would not have knowingly released an updated 
model that favors foreign feedstocks by imposing barriers for 
U.S. biofuels to qualify for that SAF tax credits.
    Is it your belief that the U.S. produced biofuels are less 
sustainable than foreign feedstocks like Brazilian ethanol, as 
the updated model seems to indicate?
    Mr. Regan. Well, what I would say is that number one, I 
agree wholeheartedly with Secretary Vilsack that this is a 
great moment in time, and I believe that SAFs have a great 
opportunity here.
    Our role in the interagency focused on updating the GREET 
model was to ensure that we gave all farmers options to comply 
with the Clean Air Act. So, what I think you will see with this 
updated model, and what I have heard farmers say is that there 
is more flexibility in how this model is going to determine the 
outputs to ensure compliance with the Clean Air Act.
    I think the design of conservation programs and tax policy, 
well those questions are probably better steered to USDA or 
Treasury. I am not an architect of how those programs work, and 
I tell you that my focus was to ensure that we put a product 
across the finish line that gave farmers maximum flexibility 
and options for Clean Air Act compliance.
    Senator Fischer. Oh, gosh, I think you are going to be 
hearing from corn producers all across the country and 
especially Nebraska. The requirements we see on this updated 
model that came out from you folks--it really has rather 
stringent requirements that have to be met.
    And it is a number of requirements that have to be met. And 
as I said earlier, you know, the Brazilian sugarcane ethanol is 
going to qualify for taxpayer dollars, United States taxpayer 
dollars, where what I am hearing from my producers is they are 
not going to be able to meet this new model that came out.
    Do you think maybe you need to relook at what that model is 
doing?
    Mr. Regan. You know, I think what we should probably do is 
have our staffs compare notes. That is not what I am hearing.
    I am hearing that we have produced a product that allows 
for our farmers to compete in a global market, as we look at 
filling this SAF gap. So, I would love for our teams to kind of 
talk a little bit about that.
    Senator Fischer. Oh, I would too. Because the air fuel that 
Secretary Vilsack was very excited about and looked at as 
another avenue to really help farmers, Ag producers be able to 
open up another market for them that was a very positive step. 
And we feel now that we are going backwards, we are going the 
other way. So, I look forward to having a continued 
conversation with you on that.
    Mr. Regan. Yes.
    Senator Fischer. I have also heard from numerous public 
power districts and electric co-ops about the regulations you 
released last week on power plants. In Nebraska, we are a total 
public power State.
    And we are seeing a dramatic increase in electric demand 
because of increased economic development, which is a good 
thing. We like to see that. And the public power districts and 
our electric co-ops, they have expressed concern that EPA's 
rule jeopardizes affordability and reliability by forcing the 
premature closure of coal powered plants.
    And you have been quoted as saying, the EPA knows the 
potential of this industry, power generators, and we have been 
talking to this industry. They provided us comments over the 
past 2 years, formally and informally.
    We believe that we have those interests baked in. Yet the 
National Rural Electric Cooperatives Association stated, the 
path outlined by the EPA is unlawful, unrealistic, and 
unachievable.
    It undermines electric reliability and poses grave 
consequences for an already stressed electric grid. So how do 
you square your comments that rural electric interests are 
baked in with the rural electric industry describing the rule 
as unlawful, unrealistic, and unachievable?
    Mr. Regan. Yes, I feel that is unfortunate that it is 
described that way. I would say that when you look at what we 
have proposed, the enormous amount of comments that we accepted 
from EEEI, and from rural electric cooperatives, I think that 
the rule gravitated towards a level of flexibility and 
expansion that took a lot of what they said very serious.
    And so, I believe that not only did we listen, but we 
produced a lawful rule. I am sure that the courts and others 
will decide. But when you look at the work that we have done 
with DOE and FERC, and those who specialize in grid 
reliability, this meets the mark. We understand that there will 
not be jeopardy in reliability based on this rule.
    And when we did the cost analysis, we looked at a potential 
increase in cost of between 0 and 1 percent. And so, I feel 
very good about the rule that we proposed, and we will look 
forward to the implementation processes, and working with the 
States to be sure that the flexibilities that we believe are 
there are actually built in.
    Senator Fischer. Well, with all due respect.
    Senator Merkley. Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. I would say our Nebraska public power 
districts and co-ops, again, public power, they are opposed to 
the regulations because they do believe it is going to really 
hurt our affordable electric generation. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much. Senator Peters.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Administrator 
Regan, as you know very well, the Great Lakes Restoration 
Initiative was established back in 2009 to accelerate efforts 
to protect and to restore one of the largest systems of 
freshwater in the entire world, the Great Lakes.
    And as Michiganders, I can say that the Great Lakes are not 
only in our DNA, they are a critical resource for drinking 
water, for economic growth, and for job creation. And since 
2010, GLI resources have been used to fund thousands of 
projects to improve water quality, to protect and restore 
native habitat and species, to prevent and control invasive 
species, and to address other Great Lakes environmental 
problems.
    However, challenges to the Great Lakes, unfortunately, from 
fluctuating lake levels to increased harmful algal blooms, to 
climate change, aren't going away and are increasing. And so, 
we need to make sure we have full funding for at least the 
authorized $450 million in the fiscal year 2025 budget.
    So, my question for you, Administrator, is can you speak to 
how EPA would be able to leverage a fully funded GLRI of $450 
million, with the historic level of funding received in the 
IIJA to continue this incredibly vital work to protect our 
Great Lakes?
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. I want to say thank you for your 
leadership on this topic, Senator Peters. And, you know, as you 
mentioned, GLRI has funded more than 7,500 projects and 
leveraging over $3.7 billion in partnership with Federal 
agencies, States, tribes, and local Governments.
    We just announced, four applicants will receive more than 
$35 million to fund projects across the Great Lakes. And the 
Southeast Michigan Council of Governments is one of the four 
that is set to receive $4.2 million. EPA will also invest 
another billion, under the bipartisan infrastructure law, 
largely targeted for accelerated cleanups of areas of concern, 
including the Detroit and Rouge River areas of concern.
    So, I feel really good that the vision of this program is 
working. The economic aspects of it, the leveraged dollars are 
making a lot of sense. And we have got $1 billion in additional 
resources that we are going to leverage against that to 
continue to see the progress that you and others have led.
    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate that. And it I think I 
would ask you, as a follow up a little bit on your response for 
the benefit of the committee, to just describe how the Great 
Lakes Restoration Initiative (GLRI)--because I think it is in a 
lot of ways used as a model Federal program.
    It enjoys one strong bipartisan support, which is always 
great to see, but it is also Federal, State, and local levels 
all have embraced these kinds of investments.
    So, I think it, for the benefit of the committee to hear, 
talk a little bit about both the significant environmental and 
economic benefits when we are able to bring all of these 
entities together and focus on this problem.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. You know, because of your leadership 
and the leadership of many on this committee, the interest has 
created a catalyst for unprecedented Federal agency 
coordination, a whole of Government approach, that really is 
yielding unprecedented results.
    You know, the economic benefits, a 2018 University of 
Michigan study shows that for every $1 spent in GLRI projects 
between 2010 and 2016, we are seeing the additional economic 
activity of about $3.35.
    So that is $1 to $3.35. So, you know, there has obviously 
been a great initiative to unify the Federal Government to 
focus on these resources, but also, again, it is making a lot 
of economic sense as well.
    Senator Peters. Yes, definitely. That is a good return on 
investment, so I appreciate you bringing that up.
    Mr. Regan. Yes.
    Senator Peters. Administrator, after long pushing for a 
national standard to limit PFAS in drinking water, I want to 
say I certainly applaud last month's very historic announcement 
by the EPA for the finalization of the nation's first ever 
national standard to address toxic PFAS chemicals in drinking 
water.
    Communities in Michigan, quite frankly, have waited far too 
long for this new standard to help our State and nation make 
the kind of progress necessary to rid our communities of these 
toxic chemicals.
    Researchers and scientists have underscored the serious 
risk of PFAS contamination in both human health and our 
environment, and that is why it is important to establish, I 
believe, additional national drinking standards as soon as 
possible to help communities.
    My question for you, Administrator Regan, is that when you 
were before this committee last year, you told me that the EPA 
had an additional 29 PFAS on its radar for potential 
consideration under a similar standard.
    Could you please provide me and this committee with an 
update on your work to designate these other dangerous chemical 
compounds, and how we need to regulate them accordingly.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. We are very proud of the focus on 
the six that you alluded to, and we all know that there are 
many more.
    And so, we are monitoring drinking water in communities all 
across the country for those 29 that we discussed at the last 
hearing through our unregulated contaminant monitoring rules.
    We have a formal process there where we are doing a lot of 
testing at significantly more water systems than ever before, 
using advanced methods to detect these pervasive chemicals, and 
we are regularly releasing that data that we collect under this 
rule for full transparency.
    So, again, we are beginning to uncover, monitor, detect, 
and determine some of the health disbenefits of those 29, with 
an angle or an idea that we will pursue regulation for those in 
the near future as well.
    Senator Peters. Well, good to hear that. Thank you. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator. And Senator 
Hoeven.
    Senator Hoeven. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Administrator, do 
you support developing carbon capture for coal fired electric 
plants, so that they can capture CO2 and continue to provide 
dependable, low cost baseload energy to the power grid?
    Mr. Regan. I do and thank you for the invitation to North 
Dakota to actually see some of those technologies operate up 
close and personal.
    Senator Hoeven. So right now, we have the largest carbon or 
CO capture project in the world with the DGC Dakota 
Gasification Company, which captures about 50 percent of the CO 
stream for EOR, for tertiary oil recovery.
    And now they are adding another 35 percent, which they will 
capture for geologic storage. They are continuing to work their 
way forward. We have got Project Tundra, which is an effort to 
put CO2 capture on a traditional coal fired facility that is 
owned by a cooperative. And then also Coal Creek, which is an 
investor owned coal fired electric plant who is also working on 
carbon capture.
    But they have got to have an environment that enables them 
to deploy these new technologies. They are investing hundreds 
of millions, billions of dollars in doing this, and the 
Department of Energy is their partner.
    Matter of fact Project Tundra, Minnkota was recently 
awarded, I think, $350 million under a DOE grant to continue 
forward with CO2 reduction or capture and sequester, okay. Now, 
you have just brought forward or finalized the MATS rule, which 
makes further reductions, but it particularly hits lignite 
coal, which is a type of coal that we have.
    And my question is, why are you now requiring another round 
of new MATS reduction, which is mercury standards, when your 
own regulatory analysis acknowledges that studied emissions 
from lignite fired sources, ``are below levels of concern from 
a public health standpoint,'' when that makes it very difficult 
for us to do the very things that you just said you support, 
which is capture and sequester CO?
    Mr. Regan. Yes, I think that----
    Senator Hoeven. And you recognize the differences between 
the lignite and other types of coal, and that these are mined 
mouth operations, right?
    Mr. Regan. I do, and I recognize that irrespective of the 
source, the exposure to mercury is same on children. And what 
we have said and what we have looked at in this rule is 93 
percent of the coal units in this country will qualify or meet 
this rule. And this is about 7 percent that we want to work 
with and focus on.
    That rule has some flexibilities in there, some technology 
combinations that we would like to consider. And so, when I 
spoke at CERAWeek about 2 years ago, what the utilities said to 
me was, hopefully we can align these rules that come out.
    If you are going to do something on mercury, on carbon, on 
water effluents, maybe you could do them in a close proximity 
so we could understand how to make our investments. And so, 
that is what we have attempted to do here.
    And so, I don't necessarily see a conflict in how we 
capture or eliminate these pollutants. I actually see an 
opportunity.
    Senator Hoeven. Well, then you are going to need to work 
with our industry, because lignite coal does have differences 
that you need to take into account. Are you willing to do that?
    Mr. Regan. We are willing to--that is part of the 
flexibility that is built into the rule. I think that we 
recognize that there is no one size fits all. We recognize that 
93 percent of the coal plants say they can do it.
    But we want to work with those 7 percent, like we have done 
in Oklahoma and Kentucky and other States, where we can prove 
that the rule is flexible enough that a combination of rules 
can get at that dangerous mercury toxic emission.
    Senator Hoeven. All right. If you want to have these 
technologies deployed, which our companies are making huge 
investments in, as is Department of Energy, then you are going 
to have to work with them so that they can, in fact, do it.
    Another example is your new CO rule as far as total 
emissions, now saying that emissions have to be reduced by 90 
percent by 2032. Okay, I just cited a project. It is now the 
largest carbon capture project in the world in the Coal 
Gasification Company, okay.
    They actually turned lignite coal in the natural gas. Now, 
with the new deployments, they will be up to maybe 85 percent. 
They are just getting up and running.
    But you are talking about these companies capturing 90 
percent by 2032 when we are just out--I mean, we are the 
first--you know, we are advanced, I think, ahead of anybody in 
this technology and deploying it.
    And if successful, it is not only going to have an impact 
here in this country, but globally, because they will be other 
adapters of these new technologies for carbon capture, which is 
what I think you want.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely.
    Senator Hoeven. But how do you expect them to hit a 90 
percent standard when we are just getting these things up and 
going now? In other words, you are putting regulations in place 
that are so stringent that you prevent anybody from actually 
achieving the very kind of reductions that, you know, that are 
possible from a scientific and a commercially viable 
standpoint.
    And if you--and if those regulations prevent it from 
happening in this country, there is nobody else around the 
globe that is going to do it. They are going to just keep 
emitting more CO.
    So, aren't you a lot better off to work with our industry 
to accomplish these new standards that continue to keep this 
baseload in operation? And just like we have done with SOx, 
NOx, mercury, and all these other things, addressed the CO. But 
if you keep setting standards that can't be achieved, you are 
just going to put them out of business.
    Mr. Regan. I think that we can get to that world that you 
just laid out with SOx, NOx, and others. What I would say is we 
are working very closely with DOE.
    We have got billions of dollars from the bipartisan 
infrastructure law. President Biden has said that he supports 
and wants to see carbon capture and storage in place.
    And so, when we look at what DOE is doing, what BIL is 
investing, and the timing of this rule, and what you were doing 
in North Dakota, what is happening with Governor Gordon in 
Wyoming and other places, I believe that we can get there.
    Senator Hoeven. Well, you understand that these regulations 
that you promulgate have to give the industry room to achieve, 
you know, these reductions by deploying these new technologies, 
and they are hundreds of millions and billions of dollars.
    Look at the impact on our ratepayers and look at the impact 
on the stability of the grid if we lose this baseload. So, 
don't those regulations have to empower our ability to do these 
things?
    Mr. Regan. I think they will, and I think they will work 
together. And I do believe that once we look at this rule and 
look at the State Implementation plans, and look at the process 
that individual States and these utilities will go through, 
taking into consideration the billions of dollars that we have 
gotten from BIL and IRA, and looking at, again, the resources 
that DOE is pumping into this technology, I believe that all of 
these things can and will converge if we approach the planning 
process the appropriate way and continue to have these 
conversations.
    Senator Murkowski. We are going to move on to Chairman 
Murray.
    Senator Murray. Thank you very much and thank you, 
Administrator Regan. Good to see you today. You know, these 
hearings really offers a really critical look at the needs that 
are facing our nation in fiscal year 2025.
    And as I have said before, and as we have seen many times, 
keeping our nation strong and our families safe is about a lot 
more than just how much we invest in our military. It is also 
about the absolutely essential investments we make at agencies 
like EPA, which ensures that we have clean air and clean water 
for our families and protects our communities from toxic 
pollutants and cancer causing chemicals, and a lot more.
    So as long as I am Appropriations Chair, I am going to make 
sure that we never lose sight of that reality or leave 
essential domestic needs behind. Now, I have been very clear 
from the start, I don't like the bipartisan spending caps we 
have to work with. They seriously limit our investments in our 
country's future, and they forced a lot of tough funding and 
decisions in the bill we just completed.
    There is no question that our fiscal year 2025 is going to 
be even tougher than last year, but I am absolutely committed 
to working again in a bipartisan way to make sure we address 
the challenges we face for defense and non-defense alike.
    For me, the order of the day, every day as we work on our 
new funding bills now is to make sure our families are always 
treated as an equal priority in our funding bills and are as 
important as our military spending. They are both critical to 
our nation's success.
    So, Administrator Regan, thank you again for being here. I 
wanted to ask you about the President's budget request for 
fiscal year 2025. You include key funding increases for some of 
EPA's core programs.
    This is the funding that ensures that EPA can enforce our 
bedrock environmental laws, like the Clean Air and Clean Water 
Acts, protect our ecosystems, our waterways, our communities. 
The request for clean air programs would boost funding by $393 
million. Would you talk to us about why that need is there and 
how it would be used?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you for that. And the increases in 
the President's budget, I believe, do respect those spending 
caps.
    And it is really important that we look at those requests 
that were made so that we can keep up with some of the progress 
we are making. We are--just proposed a really good strong 
drinking water rule on PFAS. But that is six.
    We have got 29 in the wings, and we have got thousands 
more. So, we need to keep the pace there. We want to ensure the 
safety of chemicals before they hit the markets. And that is 
one of the places on our team where we have a deficit in terms 
of staffing.
    Yet we are getting more and more requests from our Ag 
communities about herbicides and pesticides. We have to 
maintain the progress that we are making on cleaning up our 
Superfund sites and our Brownfield sites.
    And quite frankly, I wish it weren't the case, but we need 
the capability to respond to a lot of these emergencies that we 
are seeing, whether they are train derailments or bridge 
collapses or wildfires.
    And so, all of the requests that you see in that budget are 
really focused on some core, key core areas that are pertaining 
to the EPA's mission.
    Senator Murray. Okay. And I also want to ask you about the 
Puget Sound Geographic Program, which provides really important 
supports to protect and restore the Puget Sound and the larger 
Salish Sea.
    I am pleased to see that the budget continues to include 
robust funding for those efforts, protects our local ecosystems 
from climate change and habitat loss and pollution, and also 
protects tribal treaty rights and tribal sovereignty, including 
by supporting recovery efforts for salmon and southern resident 
killer whales, all really important priorities to me.
    Can you talk about how your budget investment supports the 
Puget Sound Geographic Program?
    Mr. Regan. Well, it does. It is very important that it 
does. All of--it keeps pace and maintains all the progress that 
you just laid out, in addition to the threat and danger that we 
are seeing from 6PPD. This underscores the need for the science 
and the ecological protection there.
    And so, I want to thank you and Congress for the resources 
and the focus there. But specifically for the Puget Sound, we 
have successfully followed through with our new statutory 
requirements to stand up the Puget Sound Recovery National 
Program Office and a Puget Sound Federal Leadership Task Force.
    As a matter of fact, I believe our task force leadership is 
completing our first report to Congress under the statute, and 
we will get you a copy of that. But I want to say that I am 
very proud of the work that we are doing on the Puget Sound and 
protecting that ecosystem and those waters.
    And through your leadership and through these task force 
and program offices, I think we are well on our way. We just 
need the budget resources to continue to progress.
    Senator Murray. Okay. And finally, let me just say that I 
really want to commend the EPA, along with the Department of 
Energy and the Washington State Department of Ecology, for 
reaching a holistic agreement on the treatment of tank waste at 
Hanford Site earlier this week.
    I take the Federal Government's moral and legal 
responsibility, and I just support the Hanford cleanup very 
seriously and make sure this committee does as well. So, we 
will be talking to you in the future about how you can make 
sure that that is on top of the agenda, and we are putting 
clean up first. So, thank you very much.
    Mr. Regan. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. All done. Okay, Senator Britt.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Administrator, 
thank you for being here today and taking time before the 
subcommittee. Alabama farmers are greatly concerned with the 
EPA's recent Endangered Species Act pesticide proposal like the 
herbicide strategy.
    These proposals could impose hundreds of millions of 
dollars in new restrictions on farmers who need these tools to 
protect crops and maintain conservation practices like reduce 
tillage and cover crops.
    Some farmers are finding that they may lack options to 
comply with the EPA proposal, which means that they have to 
entirely stop using tools that are vital to their farms. And I 
hope that you and I both share the thought that food security 
is national security, and making sure that we continue to 
support our farmers and continue to support the job they do, 
knowing that they protect their land.
    The fruitfulness of it is what allows them to continue to 
do their job. And support the work they do, not only for their 
community, but truly for the entire nation. In that vein, 
bipartisan instructions were provided to EPA in the final 
fiscal year 2024 Interior Appropriations Report to ensure the 
use of ``best scientific and commercial data about available'' 
to assess species risk as the law requires.
    These instructions include using real world data on 
pesticide usage, existing conservation practices farmers are 
using to protect wildlife, real world data on spray drift and 
water concentrations, to supplemental models, among other 
sources.
    My question for you, Mr. Administrator, is how does the EPA 
plan on implementing Congress's bipartisan instructions?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you for that. And we do share that 
goal. And I can say that I agree that no farmers should wake up 
in the middle of a growing season and have to face some of the 
decisions that they are having to face.
    Senator Britt. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan. You know, I think previous decisions that 
spanned decades and court rulings have put us all in a 
precarious position. I do feel really good that we are speaking 
with our farming community, our agriculture community, on how 
we approach to Pesticides and Endangered Species Act, and we 
have come up with some strategies that, quite frankly, a number 
of farm groups have spoken very positively about.
    Senator Britt. Okay.
    Mr. Regan. The American Soybean Association and the AG 
Retailers Association. So, I think we are digging our way out 
of this hole. We are having a lot of conversations using--
similar conversations around using the same science so that we 
can achieve some of these goals that will provide certainty for 
our agriculture.
    Senator Britt. The two things I have heard, and so these 
are my concerns, is that we are not using kind of the directive 
that was in the bipartisan report language. And so, it has been 
brought to my attention that in some ways the EPA seems to be 
intentionally using conservation models that are designed to 
overestimate risk and which is explicitly not, you know, the 
best scientific and commercial data available.
    And so that type of risk assessment is something that I am 
worried about because I believe it will necessitate farmers 
adopting additional restrictions and, you know, to just 
mitigate what may be a phantom risk.
    And so, I just want to make sure if that comes across, if 
you will make sure to just kind of drill down and ensure that 
is not happening, because I just want to caution EPA, after 
last year, you know, we saw the D.C. circuit court rule against 
the National Marine Fisheries Services for taking that similar 
approach of over overstating the risks to different species.
    And so, I just, I strongly advise EPA to implement the 
bipartisan data instructions, as Congress has directed. And the 
other feedback that I have gotten is that there may be a 
potential of you having some type of significant volume of 
things and maybe not having, you know, staffing in order to be 
able to implement this.
    And so, my question on that front is, would the EPA 
consider appointing designated non-Federal representatives to 
help you meet the ESA responsibilities and Congress's 
bipartisan data instructions?
    Mr. Regan. I think you will see in the budget, we attempted 
to be responsible and provide a request for the necessary 
bodies to do so. That particular office of the office that we 
are talking about is down to levels that early 2000s and more.
    So, I think what--there is a common agreement is, is that 
we need more staff, and more resources to keep pace with what 
the courts are pushing our way. And I am not certain that we 
are comfortable with the overreliance of a Federal 
responsibility to volunteers or folks who have expertise that 
are not contractually acquired. So, we would really need to 
talk through----
    Senator Britt. Yes, would you mind--I know I am about out 
of time. Would you commit that our staffs could get together 
and actually talk about this, because I don't think the EPA 
needs to do this alone.
    You know, if you look at the Endangered Species Act, it 
actually allows the agency to designate non-Federal 
representatives to help do this work. And so, would you commit 
to me that we can sit down and have that conversation and see 
if there is a path forward?
    Mr. Regan. I would, and I would love for us to prioritize 
doing it in a way that we haven't done in the past. The court 
decisions and the use of that program contributes to why we are 
here today.
    Senator Britt. Well, let's work together to see if we could 
find a path forward. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan. Thank you so much.
    Senator Merkley. Senator Sinema.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you, Chairman Merkley and Ranking 
Member Murkowski. And thank you to our Administrator for being 
here today. As you know, a slate of recent rulemaking from your 
agency stands to have enormous impacts on the prosperity of 
Arizona.
    We are committed to a clean and healthy environment, and 
the manufacturing boom in my State is helping to lead the way. 
From advanced semiconductors to batteries and the critical 
minerals they are made of, Arizona is at the forefront of the 
clean energy economy. But it doesn't feel like this progress 
and responsible growth is always supported by the Federal 
Government.
    So, I have a few important questions for you, and I look 
forward to discussing these matters. My office recently had the 
opportunity to host one of your assistant Administrators, Joe 
Goffman, in Arizona.
    As you no doubt are aware, the issue of ozone non-
attainment in Maricopa County is significant and could hamper 
the kinds of clean energy advanced manufacturing investments 
this Administration and Congress have sought to support and 
restore over the past years.
    I share your goal of providing clean air to the American 
people, but the simple fact is that my State does not have the 
industrial history on which to base a robust bank of emissions 
reduction credits that manufacturers like the semiconductor 
industry can use to support expansion.
    Maricopa County's proposed with 204 and 205 would provide 
the mechanisms to create a bank of these credits, though the 
process to get these rules has been extremely arduous. Now that 
the EPA is taking the first step towards conditional approval 
of 205, will you commit to working with Maricopa County 
throughout this process to ensure a timely, final approval by 
the end of this summer?
    And can you also provide an exact timeline of how the 
agency plans to work with the county to get rule 204 to 
conditional approval this calendar year?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you for the question. And what I 
will say is, I can commit that we will continue to work on this 
process. I think that Maricopa County has pioneered some very 
novel approaches that have gotten us this far.
    Administrator Goffman was there a meeting with stakeholders 
to try to learn from the success of 204 and 205, excuse me, so 
we can apply it to 204. So, I will circle my staff and have our 
teams converse about what timeframe we actually think we are 
on. I would hate to promise something that we can't meet.
    And I would like to give you some level of specificity on 
what that timeline is and what needs to occur to ensure success 
for that timeline.
    Senator Sinema. Well, thank you, Administrator. I like that 
specificity, though it would have been nice to have an open 
hearing. I will take it in a later time, if you are able to 
follow up. My second question, Western States face significant 
regional challenges in maintaining the eight hour ozone 
standard.
    This cannot be solved by States at the individual or 
regional levels. These challenges include high natural 
background ozone levels, increasing ozone impacts from 
wildfires, and significant ozone impacts from international 
transport.
    But the penalties for not attaining the eight hour ozone 
standard, including sanctions on major industries and highway 
funding, are directly imposed at the regional level. Now, the 
current EPA policies and guidance effectively bar Western 
States from pursuing Clean Air Act relief from locally 
uncontrollable ozone that is generated by wildfires and 
transport.
    So, what are you doing to revise those policy and guidance 
related to exceptional events and international transport, 
places like Arizona can't control that, so that Western States 
can access these limited Clean Air Act relief mechanisms and 
avoid sanctions that are associated with failing to obtain an 
ozone standard that we have no control over?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Well, thank you for that question. And I 
will say that, when we look at all of the work that we have 
done as of late with our National Ambient Air Quality Standards 
(NAAQS) program, we recognize that wildfires or unnatural 
events or prescribed burns need to be differentiated in terms 
of the air monitoring data that we are acquiring.
    So, we do have a process to diverge that data that comes 
from exceptional events, prescribed burns, so that States, 
counties, regions are not penalized for that. I think that when 
you look at----
    Senator Sinema. Administrator, just to interrupt, does that 
also include to account for international transport? As you 
know, we share a border with Mexico and have no ability to 
manage how they regulate their usage of ozone or pollutants in 
their air.
    Mr. Regan. Yes. What I would say there is I think that our 
program is designed to understand what transport is coming from 
out of State. That is part of what we have perfected in our 
Good Neighbor Rule, even though it is constantly challenged in 
court and other places.
    So again, that is another place where I think our teams can 
have a conversation about exactly when we look at ozone 
attainment, and in terms of meeting that goal, what percentage 
is coming from international airspace or what is coming from 
prescribed burns or exceptional events? I think that there is a 
way that we can focus more on that to assure the attainment 
that we are all looking for.
    Senator Sinema. Thanks. My last question is, when I 
expressed to you in the past, I have serious concerns with how 
the agency's rulemaking around ethylene oxide was handled.
    The potential impacts of this rule on the safety and 
availability of sterilized medical devices is one that I still 
don't believe the EPA has taken on with all seriousness, 
including comments that the FDA submitted about the massive 
risks to medical device supply chains.
    Can you explain how you have worked with Commissioner 
Califf at the FDA to address concerns that they have indicated 
around medical device supply chains that require ethylene 
oxide?
    Mr. Regan. I can. I can say that I have talked to Dr. 
Califf a number of times. Our teams at FDA and EPA have talked 
a number of times. I think that we were able to resolve those 
issues that the FDA had during the proposal and final phase. I 
will say that we are assured, based on our process, that we 
will not have any impact on sterilization of medical equipment 
that is used obviously to save lives.
    But we also feel really good that this rule can be complied 
with at less than 1 percent of the annual revenue of these 
companies. And we are reducing cancer causing risk, elevated 
risk, by surrounding communities by 96 percent.
    So, I think that we have done a really good job balancing 
those health obligations, the cost effectiveness of it, and 
some of the very serious questions that we took serious that 
were raised by the FDA.
    Senator Sinema. And I know I am over my time, Mr. Chairman, 
but just one last question. Do you feel confident in saying 
that the FDA shares your assessment, that through this process, 
you have addressed all of their concerns, and that the industry 
will be able to move forward without harm to patients or to the 
medical device supply chain?
    Mr. Regan. I believe that, and I believe we have the 
documentation that says so.
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    Senator Sinema. I would like to see that. Thank you. Thank 
you, Mr. Chair.
    Senator Merkley. You are most welcome. Senator Capito.
    Senator Capito. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome, Mr. 
Administrator. Good to see you again. I am sure that you will 
not be surprised that I am going to start by saying I am 
extremely disappointed by the EPA's Clean Power Plan 2.0 and 
other rules in the so-called EGU strategy that were announced 
last Thursday.
    I will discuss these more in detail because you are coming 
in front of our EPW committee, and we can dig deeper into that 
and discuss those rules. So, turning to another issue, would 
you agree that the EPA's offer--excuse me, Office of Inspector 
General plays an important role in conducting independent, 
third party auditing and oversight of the agency's programs?
    Mr. Regan. Yes, I would agree.
    Senator Capito. And would you also agree that the IG's work 
helps to ensure that the agency's programs are responsibly and 
effectively implemented, and waste, fraud, and abuse is 
minimized?
    Mr. Regan. Yes.
    Senator Capito. Well, we agree on the important role of the 
EPA's Inspector General. I think it is especially important 
when it comes to the oversight of the IRA, which was passed 
with Democrats only voting for it.
    The IRA appropriated more than $41 billion to the EPA, and 
established many new programs that require the agency staff to 
conduct activities that are outside their traditional roles.
    One example is the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, commonly 
referred to as the Green Bank provision, which I understand is 
$20 billion that you have just announced is going to eight 
entities. It is $20 billion going to eight entities.
    Democrats provided $27 billion for the entire program. The 
Inspector General has testified before the House, the EPA 
Inspector General, that the Green Bank and other new IRA 
programs carry a heightened risk of waste, fraud, and abuse.
    So, of note, however, the IRA provided not $1 of additional 
funding for an EPA Inspector General to independently oversee 
this $27 billion. By contrast, the Inspector Generals of other 
agencies did get IRA funding.
    For example, the DOE got $20 million to help oversee their 
funding. It is deeply concerning to me that we are now entering 
the second year since the IRA became law and the EPA Inspector 
General still has not received any additional dedicated funding 
to audit more than $40 billion in your EPA programs.
    So, do you support the EPA Inspector General being provided 
with additional funding to perform audits and reviews of the 
IRA programs?
    Mr. Regan. Actually, I do, and in our budget, we are 
requesting those resources.
    Senator Capito. Why was that not included in the IRA?
    Mr. Regan. I am not a member of Congress. It is a law that 
passed that I am responsible for implementing. And so, what I 
would say is, I would like to operate in a very transparent 
way. I have had a number of conversations--I meet with my IG 
routinely.
    We have a good partnership. He has indicated that it would 
be in both interest to have more oversight. And so, in that 
spirit of partnership at EPA, we have requested to Congress, 
through the budget, through the President's budget, that the 
Inspector General's Office receive adequate funding so that we 
could continue that strong partnership----
    Senator Capito. How much did you ask for in that?
    Mr. Regan. We have requested $79.2 million in total. I 
think the current is $54.6 million.
    Senator Capito. Okay, so that is additional like $25 or 
something like that. Am I hearing that correctly?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. It is 45 percent, yes.
    Senator Capito. So how do you say that you are going to 
finalize these agreements of $20 billion to eight different 
entities, and when are you finalizing those agreements, in 
September?
    Mr. Regan. Well, we had a very competitive process. We have 
selected those eight recipients, which I think--I don't want to 
speak for the IG or anyone else, but we chose eight applicants 
that have demonstrated expertise.
    From an oversight standpoint, that is much better than 
choosing 30 or 40 applicants that don't have quite the same 
level of expertise. And by the way, these eight recipients are 
distributing the resources. So, this is not $20 billion going 
to eight entities for their usage.
    Senator Capito. Which that makes it even harder to oversee, 
I think. I am not advocating that they are the ones that spend 
it.
    But it seems to me if you are going to have 300 different 
entities, you know, being the recipients of this with eight 
major entities putting this money out, I don't see how you are 
going to keep track of this.
    I mean, I just think it is so ripe for waste, fraud, and 
abuse, subjective kinds of deploying of the dollars, and that 
it very much concerns me.
    Mr. Regan. I think the design of the program--and I am very 
proud of the way we have designed this program.
    We have the metrics. We have the guardrails. We have 
carefully selected these eight entities. They are accountable 
to us. I think we have a ton of oversight mechanisms built in. 
But listen, some might consider me not as objective, which is 
why we are asking for the resources in the President's budget 
to ensure that our Inspector General feels comfortable with the 
actions that we are taking.
    Senator Capito. Well, I will end there on that. I would say 
it is just amazing to me that the authors of the IRA wouldn't 
want to be more accountable to the dollars that were being 
spent, billions of dollars being spent in a whole new program 
and wouldn't have included that in their initial proposal. 
Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator. And I think 
we are going to have additional five minute rounds, if you want 
to stay and ask any more questions. So, I am going to attempt 
to get through three or four questions in five minutes.
    First, just to restate what I think I heard you say, under 
the exceptional events criteria, any error contaminants that 
occur from a prescribed fire will not be counted against 
achieving attainment.
    Mr. Regan. That is correct.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Terrific. That was fast. All 
right. Second, in my home State is Coffin Butte landfill. In 
June of 2022, the EPA sent out a team to measure the methane 
coming out of it because of local concerns.
    The inspection resulted in recording 61 leaks, including 
three measurements that maxed out the instrumentation that was 
being used at 70,000 parts per million. So, can you give me a 
short version of what action the EPA is taking?
    This is now 23 months ago that the field inspection 
occurred. And if we need a longer discussion, I would like to 
follow up with you to make sure that there is going to be 
action regarding landfills like this that are out of 
compliance.
    Mr. Regan. Well, I will say that our enforcement arm has 
been very aggressive in looking at these methane leaks and 
opportunities here. This is one, as you said, that was 
discovered in 2022.
    Unfortunately, it is an active enforcement situation, so I 
can't speak to that without betraying the confidence or the 
legal obligations that I have. But I can tell you that we are 
coordinating with the State of Oregon. It is an active case, 
and we are laser focused on this case.
    Senator Merkley. Great. Because if you have a landfill that 
maxes out the instrumentation, which is, I think, quite rare, 
it probably should rise to the top of the list of places to act 
on.
    And I will convey to the folks in Corvallis and nearby that 
you are on the case. Great. Thank you. I want to turn to 6PPD. 
This is an ingredient in tires that makes them wear longer.
    But there is a fascinating study that was conducted in 2020 
because scientists in Washington noticed that the Coho salmon 
that were returning to spawn were dying, and they tried to 
figure out why, and they ended up testing 2,000 chemicals in 
the stream and discovered they finally had a smoking gun, 6PPD.
    Every time it would rain, it would flush the dust from 
tires into the stream and the Coho would die. We have lots of 
challenges on both coasts of this country for the survival of 
our salmon.
    Last thing we needed was a chemical that wipes them out as 
they are spawning each time it rains. And yet, this chemical, 
apparently no substitute has been found to make tires wear 
longer. And if they wear out too fast, that can create safety 
issues. So, this merits a high level of attention.
    And I applaud EPA for granting the TSCA application that 
came from the Yurok and two other tribes, because it is rare to 
have such a petition granted to examine a chemical. But we know 
how slow TSCA can be.
    Given this lethal impact on salmon that are spawning, and 
not to mention that it has a huge impact on rainbow trout and 
brook trout as well, what can we do to acceleate a solution to 
replace 6PPD with something that works a lot better? Or works 
equally well for the tires but doesn't kill our salmon, brook 
trout, and rainbow trout.
    Mr. Regan. Yes, I am very thankful for the EPA's storm 
water research has helped us connect these dots. I am very 
excited that we were able to approve that petition as quickly 
as possible, and our team is moving very quickly.
    We intend to publish an advance notice of proposed 
rulemaking under Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) by this 
fall. And so, from a regulatory standpoint, we are moving as 
quickly as possible. There are some, you know, mitigation 
efforts that we are researching to see if we can plug some of 
those gaps until we can take regulatory action.
    But the reality is, is that this is another one of these 
pervasive chemicals that has been ignored for far too long. 
Thankfully, we have been receiving the budget resources to 
tackle these pervasive chemicals, and we are going to do that 
with this budget request as well.
    Senator Merkley. Great. And my understanding was that that 
rule, that advanced rule or notice advanced rulemaking, leads 
to requiring the manufacturers to provide you with a lot of 
research data.
    That is great. I hope that some of the new hires you have 
on will become a team to tackle this challenge, because I am 
afraid that the process of considering the chemical could take 
so many years, our salmon could be gone. They have faced so 
many threats. So, if there is a way to--and I know the 
manufacturers already have a 16 company coalition that is 
working to test other products.
    They just haven't found one. We need a lot of understanding 
of this. And even if it comes close to matching, helping with 
the tire wear so it doesn't kill salmon, we need to figure that 
out and make a transition. And I am out of my time, so I don't 
get to ask another question until my co-chair here steps in.
    Senator Murkowski. Just keep moving through them. Good 
questions though. And, Administrator, know that the chairman 
and I, we are talking about this issue and how we are seeing 
the potential impact in our streams and the impact to our 
fisheries. Obviously, an issue that we are looking at with 
great attention in Alaska as well.
    I wanted to ask you about Superfund program next year and 
how you plan to ensure the long term viability of this program. 
I think we all agree that this is a critical program and 
certainly a big one within our budget request.
    But in the fiscal year 2024 request, the agency proposed to 
heavily reduce the annual discretionary funding because of the 
new revenues that are coming into it. And then what we just 
passed partially acts on that proposal, but not to the full 
reduction requested. So compared to the previous budget 
request, the agency's request this year includes additional 
funding to the program.
    And so, I am looking at that and thinking that this change 
in request level perhaps showcases a reversal in how the agency 
views the funding for the Superfund program over the long run. 
We know that the tax is bringing in, this new revenue are 
eventually going to expire. So, I guess this is a pretty broad 
question to you, but how do you view the long term funding 
outlook for the Superfund program?
    I feel pretty strongly last year that we needed to maintain 
a good level of discretionary funding for the program in case 
the expectations on the taxes weren't achieved. So, can you 
share with me where you think we are with that?
    Mr. Regan. Well, thank you. And unfortunately, your 
predictions were right. The tax collections have been much 
lower the first 2 years than forecasted by the Treasury 
Department. And so, we saw a big gap there. In this budget, I 
think we are requesting $300 million to fill that gap.
    Our Superfund program, our Brownfields programs are some of 
our most important programs, most productive programs. And so, 
we have that $300 million request in the budget this year, and 
we are going through a thought process of what do we need to do 
to ensure that the Department of Treasury and EPA are having 
the right conversations to understand what these projections 
are so that we can better prepare our budgets for the future.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, I appreciate that. And I was 
really worried last year because, you know, we were all looking 
for different ways that we could meet our budget. And, you 
know, we were really constrained.
    And there were a lot that were looking at the Superfund as 
well now we are going to have all this new revenue coming in, 
so we don't need to fund it on the discretionary side. So, I 
think we were--we are in a good place, but I agree with you, 
these programs are far too important across the country, so we 
want to make sure that we get this right.
    I raised the issue of Congressionally directed spending 
projects and getting them out the door to the intended 
communities. I don't think I mentioned any numbers in my 
statement, but looking just at Alaska as an example, of the 48 
fiscal year 2022 and 2023 projects that we secured for Alaska, 
only 15 of those have been awarded.
    And so, when you think about just the process that we are 
dealing with, we have communities that are coming to us and 
saying this is absolutely highest and most significant need. We 
work to achieve that.
    We get it. It is in law. And then, 1 year goes by and they 
don't see it. And the second year goes by. So, can you give me 
any updates on what the agency is doing to improve the 
processing?
    And I guess what I want, Administrator, is your assurance 
that you are really going to make this a priority and including 
talking with the new acting Administrator for water to kind of 
sit down and figure out, all right, how do we get these funds 
out the door?
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely. And I would love to also just 
continue this conversation so that we can drill down a little 
bit more. I know that Congress awarded us $7 million last year 
to try to help us close the gap.
    With these earmarks, as you and I have discussed, these are 
going to applicants who just are first timers in the grant 
application process. So, we have tried to take that $7 million 
plus other technical assistance we can provide to the 
applicants to submit qualified applications. Of the completed 
qualified applications, we are at a 99 percent approval rate.
    So, we really have a deficit in terms of getting these 
grant in the door in a decent fashion. And so, we put our heads 
together to think about how to speed that up. We can do that 
with existing technical expertise and the $7 million.
    But I do think we need to have a more robust conversation 
about not just with Alaska, but how do we close this gap all 
across the country, given that there is a big gap in terms of 
those who have never applied for Federal grants, and there is a 
process that we have to follow to ensure that they can handle 
those resources.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, we all want to get to the same 
place, but I am sure you can understand the frustration from 
those who have been the recipients, but now they are looking at 
it and they are like, we are recipient in paper only. And it is 
not legal tender paper. It is, you win, but you don't have 
anything yet. So, let's work together on that. My time has 
expired. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan. Absolutely.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Are you going to stay for 
another round of questions? Okay. All right, so back to 
landfill methane. One of the broader questions that doesn't 
just address Coffin Butte, the landfill that I noted in Oregon 
that we have lots of concerns about, is landfills more broadly, 
are you considering, will you consider updating the new source 
performance standards for landfills?
    Mr. Regan. That is something that I know has been discussed 
by the team. And so, what I want to do is get an update from 
them on where we are in that process, that discussion process, 
and I will be sure to circle back with you and your team on 
that.
    Senator Merkley. Okay. That would be great. I keep thinking 
about this one landfill that I visited in Oregon, where they 
would run piping throughout the whole thing, and they were 
collecting all the methane, and then they were burning it for 
energy.
    At least when you burn it, it makes it less lethal to the 
climate. Produces carbon dioxide, yes, but less toxic. But, but 
you are also producing energy for the grid and--but the 
landfills where they are just emitting massive amounts of 
methane that is not collected, not burned, whatever, is the 
worst case.
    I want to turn to follow up on the point my colleague was 
just making because we are getting a lot of feedback, not 
always so polite feedback, back home on the fiscal year 2022 
and 2023. In Oregon, we call them community initiated 
0projects. They put forward their best ideas, we fight for 
them.
    And so, we want to make it clear it is their priorities 
back home. It is not our priorities. But of the 1,225 awards 
that were made where people were told, yes, you are going to 
get your funding that you applied for the community initiative 
project, my understanding is only 486 extended applications 
have been completed.
    Because they are told about this award, but then they have 
to go out and they have to get maybe an architect to complete 
the work and a construction team, and they have got to make 
sure they are matching funds in the State or, you know, that 
that box is checked. So, out of that 1,225 from fiscal year 
2022 and 2023, I gather only 260 checks have gone out the door. 
And so, that leaves 1,000 frustrated organizations.
    And maybe that is because we don't help them understand 
what they have to do if they get the award. And part of it is 
because we are doing so much infrastructure work around the 
country, you can't get a design team, maybe you can't get an 
architect, maybe you can't get an engineering estimate, maybe 
you can't get a construction firm to build it.
    And but now we have, in addition, announcements of another 
471 projects for fiscal year 2024. And so, this is all within 
the EPA realm. This is not--it is just the community initiated 
projects that--so I know it is a much more extended 
conversation about how we educate those who apply, how they 
know what they have to do quickly, how do we solve--if there is 
any way to solve the challenges of fulfilling all the details 
of the application, the full application they have to do after 
they have been told they have the money, because we want this 
to work well.
    These were the community's top priorities. We want it--we 
get excited telling them we have gotten the money, and then 
this whole process gets frustrating for them. I had one 
community that said to me, we got $1 million grant, great, but 
in the year it took us to get all the boxes checked and 
approved by EPA, the project increased by $1 million.
    And that obviously didn't help anyone in that particular 
instance. The Greenhouse Reduction Fund--oh, EPA staffing 
normal. That is what I wanted to turn to. So, how does your 
fiscal year 2025 budget increase the permanent staffing?
    We know the staffing is increased from the Inflation 
Reduction Act and the infrastructure bill with shorter term 
contracts. But in terms of your permanent hires, which have 
decreased 20 percent over the past decade, how much repair work 
is done in this fiscal year 2025 budget?
    Mr. Regan. You know, it is a great--it is a good shot in 
the arm. I think when we look at 14,000 plus employees, and 
trying to get up to that 16,000 level, you know, 10 years ago, 
15 years ago, we were at 17,000 or more, and I would argue that 
the environment was less complex.
    Now we are focused on making up lost ground for TSCA. We 
are looking at all of these pesticides and herbicides that we 
need to respond to because of the court. We are tackling things 
like PFAS.
    And so, a significant portion of what we are asking for are 
permanent employees, folks who can focus on some of the bread-
and-butter issues at EPA. We have been rebuilding for the last 
3 years.
    We have got a little bit more to go. And these resources 
that we have requested will help us ensure that we are doing 
our jobs adequately.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Senator, back to you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you. Two more questions for me. 
Both of them not very easy, one is PFAS, and one is clean 
power, so. But there has been a lot of attention focused on the 
PFAS contamination, what we need to do.
    I am pretty proud of the funding that we were able to 
include in the bipartisan infrastructure bill to start 
addressing this PFAS contamination because we recognize that we 
have got to address it. But I worry a lot about the impact of 
these national rulemakings on our very small water system 
providers.
    I mean, they are small, you know, Administrator. You have 
had an opportunity to see some of them, to hear their concerns. 
They have not only expressed real, genuine concerns about the 
cost, but also the liability under the CERCLA designations, 
even with the enforcement discretion policy that the agency has 
released.
    So, how do we address the very legitimate concerns that we 
have here? And I don't know, maybe there has been some work 
that has been done in the rulemaking or separately to address 
some of the concerns of, again, of these very small, community 
providers like we see in Alaska.
    And it is not that anybody wants to say, well, we don't 
want to have good standards here. But for some, I mean, there 
is no option. It is like, okay, if we can't meet this and there 
is enforcement, and if there is enforcement, we can't pay for 
that, and therefore we have no water. What do we do?
    Mr. Regan. Well, and I understand exactly what you are 
saying. And thank you for introducing me to some of those small 
water utilities that I saw while I was in Alaska. I think we 
are very cognizant of that in terms of the way we designed the 
rule.
    And so, I would love for our team to get together so that 
we can talk about some of the flexibilities that exist there. 
In addition to the billion dollars that we announced to help 
some of these smaller systems, you know, within that $50 
billion water infrastructure package for BIL, there is tens of 
billions of dollars that we believe can be leveraged for PFAS 
compliance as well.
    And so, I believe that there are a number of pots of money, 
in addition to leveraging some of our public, private 
partnerships that can bring some of these water systems into 
compliance, that fall on the smaller scale or in that rural 
scale.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, what I would like to do is take 
you up on your invitation to introduce you to some of these 
very specific communities, share with you and your folks just 
the enormity and also the steps that they have taken to try to 
address some of these issues, and see if we can't be a little 
more creative in identifying some sources of funding.
    And last question to me is on the Clean Power Plan and its 
effects on Alaska. You again, you have spent some time there. I 
know that you are familiar with many of the issues that are 
distinct in my State, but we are facing a situation now with 
declining natural gas production in Cook Inlet.
    Natural gas is basically that baseload that powers the 
entire, South Central region, all the way up to Fairbanks. And 
we are in a place now where our Legislature and our Governor is 
actively discussing with the utilities the need to import LNG 
from Canada in order to avoid brownouts and worse. It is a 
situation that is absolutely untenable, in my view, but this 
kind of speaks to the place that we are in right now as we are 
trying to integrate in additional renewables.
    That is good, that is positive. But it doesn't come on soon 
enough and we are seeing the decline with available gas really 
a looming, looming threat. And so, a couple questions when it 
comes to the Clean Power Plan and our energy picture in that 
context, because under the previous rule, Alaska had an 
exemption to the Clean Power Plan.
    And I guess the question to you is whether or not the EPA 
actually looked to what these rules could mean for electric 
generation and energy costs in Alaska, particularly given this 
dynamic that we are seeing.
    It is like this wall coming at us. And whether or not we 
should be in a position where if because of the pressing 
urgency that we are in right now--and again, an option that is 
untenable, which is importing LNG from our neighbor in Canada.
    If Alaska is forced into a situation like this, can EPA 
look to the Alaska exemption that was in place in the prior 
Clean Power Plan and acknowledge that it might be time again 
for an Alaska exemption?
    This is a situation where I don't think anybody thought 
that our situation was so tenuous, but we are to that point. We 
are now to the place where the Governor is saying, we are going 
back to coal because we know we have got that, but we can't get 
the natural gas that we need, and we can't bring the renewable 
energy on in a manner--our transmission grid is not able to 
accommodate.
    We have a significant grid grant that we are very thankful 
for, but all this is kind of years in going forward. And so, 
part of my question is to ask you if it is something you would 
consider, but it is also intended to make sure that you are 
aware of this very real, very looming threat that Alaska is 
facing in a matter of like 18 months. It is coming up like a 
freight train.
    Mr. Regan. No, and I appreciate you raising this. It is 
something that I am paying close attention to. I will say that, 
when you look at the rules that we just announced, that they 
are more so focused on existing coal and new natural gas.
    So, the tenuous issues that you have raised are top of 
mind, and the timing is perfect because we took a step back in 
the proposal. We originally had existing natural gas as part of 
the package.
    At the urging of the environmental justice community and 
some in the environmental community who thought we needed to 
take a stronger look at that, as well as the industry, we took 
that piece out and now that is on a separate track.
    And so, the discussion you are raising now, the timing is 
perfect. I would like for our teams to get together and 
continue to have this conversation. And I commit to you that 
this line of thinking and the exemption that you have asked me 
to investigate, I will make that a priority.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you. I look forward to having a 
visit with you and your team, and when we can make that 
schedule happen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is the last of 
my questions.
    Senator Merkley. All right. Thank you very much, Senator 
Murkowski. And I would like to follow up after this with a 
better understanding of all that we expect to be accomplished 
from the $27 billion, including the $7 billion in the Solar For 
All program.
    I keep thinking about this project that a group in New York 
had called Up Rows where they were trying to work with local 
stores to be able to do solar canopies and then benefit from 
the community solar, so on and so forth.
    I know there is a lot of innovative ideas, solar panels 
that go on to affordable housing, helping low income families 
in various ways and so forth. But I think it would be helpful 
to try to, now that those eight nonprofits have received 
funding and have sort of laid out a vision of what they are 
going to accomplish, to try to do a kind of a compiled 
understanding of what are we really going to get from this and 
would appreciate that.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    If there are no other statements, the hearing record will 
be open until the close of business on May 8th, 2024. 
Obviously, there are tremendous diversity of complex challenges 
that are on your desk, Mr. Secretary, so thank you. I know you 
are waking up every day trying to tackle them, and we just keep 
piling more issues, even as we go forward.
            Questions Submitted by Senator Chris Van Hollen
    Question. There are many Federal agencies involved in the 
Chesapeake Bay cleanup process alongside the Environmental Protection 
Agency. USDA, for example, has provided critical resources to assist 
farmers in implementing conservation practices to avoid runoff. In 
2009, President Obama issued Executive Order 13508 on Chesapeake Bay 
Protection and Restoration. That order established a Federal Leadership 
Committee, chaired by the EPA Administrator and including senior 
leadership from other relevant agencies, to ensure a coordinated 
cleanup.
    Does the authority for the Federal Leadership Committee from the 
2009 Executive Order still stand?
    Answer. The Executive Order 13508 issued by President Obama has not 
been rescinded. The Executive Branch still has the authority and 
directive to convene Cabinet Members of departments and agencies that 
coordinate on the Chesapeake Bay Program.
    Question. Whether through existing authority or by pursuing a new 
authority, would you be willing to explore re-starting that Federal 
Leadership Committee to better-coordinate Federal resources to the Bay 
and ensure that each agency's efforts and funding are put to the most 
effective use?
    Answer. Yes. EPA is currently planning a meeting of this group for 
the fall.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Kyrsten Sinema
    Question. Last summer saw unprecedented energy demand in Arizona--
our largest utility needed 8,200 megawatts to meet peak demand. This 
demand is expected to grow by 40% by the end of this decade. And this 
is just for one utility. Maintaining grid stability throughout the 
year, particularly in the summer, is for me an issue of life and 
death--the consequences for vulnerable and underserved populations 
during a summer blackout in Arizona are that high. I have concerns 
about how the Agency will look to regulate existing gas-fired power 
plants in the future as well for future discussion.
    As States like Arizona continue to grow, and Federal regulations 
incentivize or even require greater levels of electrification our 
economy, what will the impacts of this new power plant rule be on grid 
stability and affordability? Is carbon capture and sequestration truly 
feasible at scale on the timeline your rule requires?
    Answer. In April, EPA finalized four separate rules that reduce 
pollution from fossil fuel-fired power plants, protect communities from 
pollution and improve public health, all while supporting the long-term 
reliable supply of the electricity needed to power America forward. EPA 
has an excellent, longstanding track record of delivering public health 
and environmental protections while supporting grid reliability. EPA 
performed a sensitivity analysis of the combined effect on the power 
sector of the carbon pollution, air toxics, and water rules, and EPA's 
recent rules for the transportation sector as well as examining a high 
demand scenario with the power sector carbon standards rule.\1\ The 
projections show that the EPA regulations will not adversely impact the 
sector's ability to meet growing demand for electricity and provide 
affordable electricity at the same time as it reduces pollution in 
accordance with these rules to protect health and the planet. After 
proposing the carbon pollution standards for new and existing fossil 
fuel-fired power plants,\2\ we engaged extensively with balancing 
authorities, power companies, reliability coordinators and other key 
reliability authorities including the Federal Energy Regulatory 
Commission (FERC), and U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) to understand 
their concerns and address them in the final rule. We expect this 
engagement will continue during implementation. In this rule, we made 
several adjustments that will provide flexibility for the power sector 
and reliability authorities to continue providing reliable electricity 
for consumers, including adjusting key provisions like subcategories, 
providing additional time for certain coal-fired plants to meet their 
standards, articulating how States may take reliability considerations 
in consideration when setting standards for plants under the provision 
of the Clean Air Act permitting consideration of remaining useful life 
and other factors, and providing compliance flexibilities. Although we 
have confidence that the rule is consistent with supporting 
reliability, as an additional safeguard, we also added two reliability-
related instruments. One is a ``short term reliability mechanism'' to 
address grid emergencies, such as weather-related emergencies and 
natural disasters. The other is a ``reliability assurance mechanism'' 
that States can use for existing coal plants that can provide 
additional time to units with cease operations dates, providing an 
extension when a documented reliability need exists, and when there is 
insufficient time for a State plan revision.
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    \1\ For details of EPA's sensitivity analyses, please see 
``Technical Memo--IPM Sensitivities Final'' available at: https://
www.regulations.gov/document/EPA-HQ-OAR-2023-0072-8917.
    \2\ Greenhouse Gas Standards and Guidelines for Fossil Fuel-Fired 
Power Plants (https://www.epa.gov/stationary- sources-air-pollution/
greenhouse-gas-standards-and-guidelines-fossil-fuel-fired-power).
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    Experience with carbon capture and sequestration (CCS) to date has 
demonstrated that it is technically feasible for electric power plants, 
and lower costs, alongside tax incentives from the Inflation Reduction 
Act that allow companies to offset the cost of CCS, informed EPA's 
determination of what is cost reasonable for new baseload combustion 
turbines and for existing long-lived coal plants. The Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) also known as the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law (BIL) also includes billions of dollars to advance 
and deploy CCS technology and infrastructure. EPA projects that the 
sector can comply with the standards with negligible impact on 
electricity prices, thanks to cost declines in CCS and the other 
emissions- reducing technologies that the rule relies on.
    EPA's 90% capture determination for CCS is based on the experience 
of existing large scale utility projects and projects in other 
industries. Compliance based on 90% capture would not have to be met 
until 2032. EPA's record indicates that power plants can achieve these 
standards in that timeframe because 90% capture CCS is adequately 
demonstrated at existing plants, and because vendors are currently 
offering CCS technology that captures 90% of carbon emissions.
    Question. Will the country have sufficient power generation and 
transmission capacity to reach the very ambitious targets the agency 
has set for light and medium-duty vehicles? A follow-up, is America's 
critical minerals production for batteries robust enough where we can 
say we aren't just outsourcing the emissions from our supply chain to 
adversarial nations?
    On the heavy-duty vehicle-side, can you explain how you believe 
hydrogen technology will have scaled sufficiently, including both the 
production and the mass transportation of hydrogen fuel, to make the 
new rule feasible?
    Answer. Electric utilities have historically met increases in 
electricity demand, and we anticipate they will continue to do so. We 
estimate that EV charging under the light- and medium-duty standards, 
combined with our projection of charging under the heavy-duty vehicle 
standards, will increase annual generation from the electric power 
sector by less than 1% in 2030, approximately 9% in 2040, and 12% in 
2050. The U.S. has historically met the demand from comparable 
expansions of generation and transmission capacity (e.g., residential/
commercial air conditioning in the 1970s-1990s; and recent expansion of 
generation needed to support computer data centers, cryptocurrency 
mining and residential/commercial expansion of heat pumps).
    Regarding your question on critical minerals, there are more than 
enough minerals to make enough hybrid and plug-in electric vehicles to 
meet the standards. All cars, including internal combustion engine 
vehicles, require some amount of critical minerals and other materials 
such as structural metals, plastics, electrical conductors, 
electronics, and computer chips that are produced both domestically and 
globally. It has long been the norm that global supply chains are 
involved in manufacturing these products. In the past, other countries 
including China have invested far more than the U.S. in producing 
critical minerals, but the U.S. is making enormous investments in this 
area because these minerals are also critical to America's 
competitiveness in the global economy. The Biden-Harris Administration 
worked collaboratively with members of Congress to design policies that 
create incentives for new facilities--like the Thacker Pass \3\ lithium 
plant and the Redwood Materials \4\ recycling operation--to extract, 
process, and recycle EV battery metals and materials in the United 
States and ally nations, and for on-shoring EV battery production. The 
U.S. is also securing new mineral supply chains through free-trade 
partners and other countries that are economic allies of the U.S. As 
with almost any other product, it is not complete domestic self- 
sufficiency but rather a secure and diversified supply chain that will 
meet our needs for critical minerals.
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    \3\ For additional information, please see: https://www.energy.gov/
lpo/articles/lpo-announces-conditional- commitment-lithium-americas-
corp-help-finance-construction.
    \4\ For additional information, please see: https://www.energy.gov/
lpo/articles/lpo-offers-conditional-commitment- redwood-materials-
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    On the heavy-duty vehicle side, hydrogen technology is a part of a 
modeled potential compliance pathway to reduce greenhouse gas 
emissions. As indicated in the rule, a diverse range of heavy- duty 
(HD) vehicle technologies are feasible and may be used to comply with 
the final standards in the rule. Fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) 
technologies powered by hydrogen are part of one potential compliance 
pathway, but the standards could also be met using internal combustion 
engines (including alternative-fueled), hybrid, and plug-in hybrid 
vehicle technologies, hydrogen- fueled internal combustion engine 
technologies, and battery electric vehicle technologies.
    We evaluated a range of FCEV technology cost projections, along 
with retail hydrogen price projections (in coordination with the 
Department of Energy), which include the costs of production, 
distribution, storage, and dispensing of hydrogen at a fueling station. 
Our assessment is that early market buildout of a hydrogen refueling 
station network to support modest HD FCEV adoption levels in the 
modeled potential compliance pathway can reduce costs sufficiently to 
make HD FCEVs cost-competitive in the 2030 to 2032 timeframe. We are 
not suggesting that a full national hydrogen infrastructure network 
needs to be in place by 2030 or even by 2032, and specifically note 
that a full national hydrogen infrastructure network is not needed to 
accommodate the demand projected in the modeled potential compliance 
pathway. Rather, a phased and targeted approach can offer sufficient 
lead time to meet the projected HD FCEV refueling needs in the rule.
    This assessment is supported by numerous provisions in the 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) and Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) 
designed to accelerate the deployment of zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs) 
and supportive infrastructure, including policies and incentives to 
reduce the cost of clean hydrogen production and jumpstart the hydrogen 
market in the United States. For example, the $7 billion Regional Clean 
Hydrogen Hubs \5\ (H2Hubs) program is expected to catalyze over $40 
billion in additional private investment to create networks of hydrogen 
producers, consumers and local connective infrastructure. The U.S. 
currently produces and consumes about million metric tons of hydrogen 
annually, and the H2Hubs are projected to produce at least three 
million metric tons per year, which is more than enough to accommodate 
the 130,000 metric tons of hydrogen projected as needed annually by 
2032 under the potential modeled compliance pathway.
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articles/biden-harris-administration-announces-7- billion-americas-
first-clean-hydrogen-hubs-driving.
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    Additionally, whole-of-government frameworks such as the U.S. 
National Clean Hydrogen Strategy and Roadmap \6\ and the National Zero-
Emission Freight Corridor Strategy \7\ offer hydrogen infrastructure 
deployment timelines that are aligned with the measured approach for HD 
FCEVs in the rule's modeled potential compliance pathway.
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www.hydrogen.energy.gov/docs/hydrogenprogramlibraries/pdfs/us- 
national-clean-hydrogen-strategy-roadmap.pdf?sfvrsn=c425b44f_5.
    \7\ For additional information, please see: https://www.energy.gov/
articles/biden-harris-administration-releases-first- ever-national-
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    Question. Those who live in Arizona, and the entire Western United 
States, have been impacted by increased wildfire activity in recent 
years.
    The Maricopa County Region submitted documentation to Region 9 that 
demonstrated 33 ozone exceedance days in 2015-2019 have been impacted 
by wildfires. Of those 33 days, to date, EPA Region 9 has evaluated 19, 
but has concluded that only three days have a high weight of evidence 
that would exclude them from attainment modeling exercises. The 
remaining 16 days have been classified as having either low or medium 
weight of evidence, and EPA Region 9 would generally not recommend 
excluding these days from attainment modeling.
    This demonstrates a fundamental difference between EPA and local 
air agencies perspectives on how and why ozone exceedances impacted by 
wildfires should be considered exceptional events and therefore 
excluded from attainment modeling.
    It will be exceedingly difficult for the Maricopa nonattainment 
area to demonstrate attainment without excluding ozone exceedances 
impacted by wildfires. Will you commit to looking at the way EPA Region 
9 considers and processes ozone exceedances impacted by wildfires and 
working on common sense solutions to this growing issue?
    Answer. The Clean Air Act has long recognized that it may not be 
appropriate to use monitoring data influenced by ``exceptional'' 
events, including wildfires and prescribed fires, when making certain 
regulatory decisions. EPA is committed to ensuring that the process for 
requesting the exclusion of event-influenced data is clear and 
efficient, and has been engaging with State, local, and Tribal air 
agencies as well as developing new tools and resources to that end. In 
April 2024, EPA made three products available to improve and support an 
efficient process for demonstrating exceptional events impacting air 
concentrations of fine particles (PM2.5). Some of these new tools can 
also assist in identifying event-influenced ozone data. In addition to 
these exceptional events implementation tools, EPA has also developed a 
memorandum that clarifies approaches and analyses outside of the 
Exceptional Events Rule that air agencies may use in certain situations 
to modify air quality data. Some of these approaches may be applicable 
to modeling scenarios. EPA will continue to offer tools and information 
to help support State, local, and Tribal air agencies (and their 
delegates) to seek exclusion of air quality monitoring data influenced 
by wildland fire smoke events.
    Question. I appreciate all the work EPA has done to address PFAS 
contamination, including implementing the billions of dollars in 
cleanup funding from my bipartisan infrastructure law. PFAS 
contamination is, as you know, a major ongoing issue in my hometown of 
Tucson.
    Regarding the Agency's recent actions under CERCLA and the Safe 
Drinking Water Act, I'd like to focus on liability, costs, and 
unintended consequences.
    How exactly will EPA determine what party, or parties, are liable 
in places like Tucson? Will ratepayers of municipal water systems be 
expected to foot the bill for cleanups? Lastly, how have you worked 
with the FAA and DOT to ensure that these rulemakings do not conflict 
with Federal regulations requiring airports to have firefighting foam 
containing PFAS on-hand?
    Answer. The Safe Drinking Water Act authorizes the EPA to act to 
protect drinking water resources where there may be an imminent and 
substantial endangerment. On May 29, 2024, the EPA issued a Safe 
Drinking Water Act Section 1431 Unilateral Administrative Order to the 
U.S. Air Force and the Arizona Air National Guard, which will focus 
those organizations on meeting their responsibilities for protecting 
drinking water supplies in Tucson, including communities with 
environmental justice concerns. The Order will require the U.S. Air 
Force to submit and implement a PFAS Water Treatment Plan to ensure 
PFAS levels in water are safe for use by Tucson Water, and to move 
forward with sampling and remediation of public and private water wells 
with high PFAS concentrations.
    Additionally, in April 2024, the EPA finalized two critical 
regulatory actions under the Safe Drinking Water Act and under the 
Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act 
(CERCLA) that will help address PFAS contamination and protect public 
health, welfare, and the environment. On April 19, 2024, the EPA also 
released a ``PFAS Enforcement Discretion and Settlement Policy Under 
CERCLA'' (Policy) that provides direction about how the EPA will 
exercise its enforcement discretion under CERCLA in matters involving 
perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) and perfluorooctanesulfonic acid (PFOS).
    The Policy does not change the EPA's usual approach: the Agency's 
CERCLA response and enforcement decisions are made on a case-by-case 
basis after considering the specific circumstances related to the 
CERCLA release at issue. Under the Policy, the EPA will focus on 
holding responsible entities who significantly contributed to the 
release of PFOA or PFOS into the environment. The EPA does not intend 
to pursue entities where equitable factors do not support seeking 
response actions or costs under CERCLA. Any CERCLA enforcement actions 
undertaken at a site such as the Tucson International Airport Superfund 
Site would be conducted by following the EPA's usual approach, while 
taking into consideration the terms of the Policy.
    The EPA understands challenges that users of Aqueous Film Forming 
Foam (AFFF) face in light of a growing body of scientific evidence that 
PFAS chemicals can cause adverse impacts to public health and the 
environment. The Federal family is working together to navigate these 
important
    cross-Agency issues. For example, as directed by Congress in 
documentation accompanying the December 2022 Omnibus Spending Bill, the 
Federal Aviation Administration worked jointly with the Department of 
Defense and the EPA to develop and publish the Aircraft Firefighting 
Foam Transition Plan \8\ in May 2023. The plan will support airports in 
their transition from PFAS- containing AFFF to a new fluorine-free 
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               Questions Submitted by Senator John Hoeven
    Question. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has a request 
pending at the EPA to allow enforcement of a new California rule that 
will impose significant financial and operational burdens on rail 
transportation, not just in California, but nationally as well.
    Concerning provisions of CARB's new rule include the banning of 
certain locomotives from operating in California starting in 2030, and 
imposing a requirement that locomotives utilize zero- emissions 
technologies that are not commercially available.
    A large coalition of local, State and national agricultural 
stakeholders recently wrote to EPA stating that the CARB rule poses a 
significant danger to U.S agriculture and the broader supply chain.
    Will you fully consider each of the comments filed to ensure that 
any final decision is legally sound and mindful of impacts on the 
Nation's supply chains?
    Answer. EPA has received an authorization request from CARB for its 
``In-Use Locomotive Regulation.'' The Clean Air Act sets forth both the 
administrative process for such authorization requests as well the 
criteria that EPA must consider in evaluating the request. EPA 
conducted a public hearing and written comment period that is now 
closed. EPA is now evaluating the comments received in order to reach 
an appropriate decision based on the Clean Air Act criteria.
    Question. Pesticides are an essential tool for many growers in 
North Dakota and across the country, protecting crops from pests and 
enabling conservation practices such as no-till and low- till.
    Unfortunately, there are misconceptions about pesticides that run 
counter to EPA's scientific findings on the safety of these crop 
protection tools.
    For one such product, glyphosate, EPA has concluded that ``there 
are no risks of concern to human health when glyphosate is used in 
accordance with its current label.''
    Given the European Commission recently approved the use of 
glyphosate for a 10-year period, through December 2033, does EPA 
continue to stand by its scientific finding that the product can be 
used safely?
    Answer. EPA's conclusion on the carcinogenic potential of 
glyphosate is consistent with the overwhelming consensus by the 
scientific community, including an external peer review by the 2016 EPA 
Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) Scientific 
Advisory Panel (SAP), as well as international regulatory authorities 
and organizations, including the
    Canadian Pest Management Regulatory Agency, the Australian 
Pesticide and Veterinary Medicines Authority, the European Food Safety 
Authority, the European Chemicals Agency, the German Federal Institute 
for Occupational Safety and Health, the Joint FAO/WHO Meeting on 
Pesticide Residues, the New Zealand Environmental Protection Authority, 
and the Food Safety Commission of Japan.
    Glyphosate is currently undergoing a reevaluation process called 
registration review. The law requires EPA to conduct registration 
review for existing pesticides, like glyphosate, at least every 15 
years, to ensure that as science evolves and new information becomes 
available, pesticides on the market continue to meet the appropriate 
safety standard.
    In December 2017, as part of glyphosate's ongoing registration 
review, EPA conducted a comprehensive human health risk assessment of 
glyphosate that considered hazard and exposure data, including any 
registrant-generated studies and any relevant information from the open 
literature (i.e., publicly available studies). EPA's risk assessment 
process combines hazard, dose- response, and exposure assessments to 
describe the overall risk from glyphosate. EPA's independent evaluation 
of the available scientific data for glyphosate found no risks of 
concern to human health when used in accordance with the current label 
instructions and concluded that glyphosate is ``not likely to be 
carcinogenic'' to humans.
    As part of the cancer evaluation for registration review, EPA 
completed a fit-for-purpose systematic review to identify relevant and 
appropriate studies with the potential to inform the human carcinogenic 
potential of glyphosate. This included an in-depth review of all 
relevant animal carcinogenicity and genotoxicity studies for the active 
ingredient glyphosate, as well as epidemiological studies that 
investigated potential cancer outcomes, including non-Hodgkin lymphoma 
(NHL), from using pesticide products containing glyphosate. Details of 
EPA's systematic review, studies identified on NHL, and EPA's 
evaluation of these studies can be found in the Revised Glyphosate 
Issue Paper: Evaluation of Carcinogenic Potential. This included 
consideration of analyses of glyphosate uses and cancer incidence in 
the Agricultural Health Study (AHS) cohort (Andreotti et al. 2018) that 
were published after the SAP. The AHS is the largest, best-designed, 
high quality epidemiological study available for glyphosate and did not 
find any association between glyphosate exposure and NHL.
    As part of the Agency's response to comments received on the 
proposed interim decision (PID) to support registration review, EPA 
evaluated two additional review articles involving NHL meta- analyses 
that were published in 2019--Zhang et al. and Leon et al.--and that 
review is available online.\9\ Meta-analysis is a statistical tool used 
to combine data from several studies. The studies summarized and used 
in the meta-analysis by Zhang et al. were all considered in EPA's 
evaluation of carcinogenic potential; however, EPA identified 
methodological deficiencies in those studies. In particular, the meta-
analysis by Zhang et al. did not properly incorporate the more recent 
data from Andreotti et al. (2018) for the AHS cohort. The Agency 
performed its own supplemental analysis to properly incorporate the AHS 
cohort data and found a lower non-statistically significant meta-risk 
ratio than that reported by Zhang et. al. Leon et al. performed a 
pooled analysis of NHL in agricultural cohorts from France, Norway, and 
the United States (the AHS cohort) and did not find statistically 
significant associations between glyphosate exposure and overall NHL 
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    In February 2020, after receiving and considering public comments 
on the PID, EPA published the interim registration review decision for 
glyphosate. On March 20, 2020, this ID was challenged in the U.S. Court 
of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Petitioners challenged EPA's analysis 
of human health and ecological risk, the weighing of risks against the 
benefits of glyphosate, and the interim risk mitigation measures, and 
they alleged that EPA violated the Endangered Species Act (ESA). In a 
June 2022 decision, the Ninth Circuit vacated the human health portion 
of the glyphosate interim decision and remanded to EPA for further 
analysis and explanation, remanded without vacatur the ecological 
portion, and imposed an October 1, 2022, deadline for EPA to issue a 
new ecological portion. In September 2022, EPA withdrew the glyphosate 
interim decision, primarily because the Agency could not meet the 
October 1, 2022, deadline imposed by the court.
    EPA's underlying scientific findings regarding glyphosate, 
including its finding that glyphosate is not likely to be carcinogenic 
to humans, remain the same. In accordance with the court's decision, 
the Agency intends to revisit and better explain and clarify the 
findings from its evaluation of the carcinogenic potential of 
glyphosate and to consider whether to do so for other aspects of its 
human health analysis. EPA intends to address the issues in the 
ecological portion of the interim decision that were identified by the 
court petition and respond to an administrative petition regarding 
glyphosate before issuing a final registration review decision.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Katie Britt
    Question. EPA recently employed its SAGE model. The model 
demonstrated a large uptick in investment. How does EPA generally 
understand its regulations driving large investments?
    Answer. The regulatory impact analysis (RIA) accompanying the final 
New Source Performance Standards for Greenhouse Gas Emissions from New, 
Modified, and Reconstructed Fossil Fuel- Fired Electric Generating 
Units and Emission Guidelines for Greenhouse Gas Emissions from 
Existing Fossil Fuel-Fired Electric Generating Units employed the SAGE 
model to estimate the economy-wide effects of the final rules. As noted 
in the RIA, EPA found that the final rules are expected to accelerate 
investments in the electricity sector, leading to an expected economy-
wide net increase in aggregate investment in 2026 and 2031 (0.09% and 
0.13%, respectively).
    This increased capital investment is a result of the expected 
compliance pathway for the electricity sector. This increased 
investment represents both new investment and accelerated investment 
that is now expected to occur earlier than it would have absent the 
final rules, as reflected by a small decrease in expected economy-wide 
investment in 2036 and 2041. The magnitude and pattern of expected 
shifts in economy-wide investment in response to regulatory actions is 
case-specific and depends on the expected compliance pathways and the 
expected baseline investments in the regulated sector.
    Question. The FY 2023 appropriation for PRIA-related activities 
represented an $11 million increase above the FY 2022 appropriation--an 
increase of approximately 8.5%. In addition, PRIA 5, signed into law in 
December 2022, increased industry maintenance fees and registration 
service fees by 30%.
    The FY 2024 appropriation represents a decrease of roughly $6 
million below the FY 2023 funding level. However, during FY 2023, 
despite additional resources there were not significant improvements in 
late decisions by the agency. Despite having the most resources in over 
10 years, staffing still fell during this period.
    Answer. The FY 2024 President's Budget requested $170.6 million 
dollars from Congress for the pesticides program. When PRIA 5 was 
enacted, Congress specified a $166 million-dollar minimum 
appropriations level to trigger fee collections. Congress provided 
approximately $133 million dollars or $38 million dollars less than the 
Presidential budget request, $33 million dollars below the ``minimum 
appropriations level'' set by Congress, and a reduction of over $6 
million compared to what was appropriated in FY 2023.
    FY 2024 also included a civilian pay raise, which further reduces 
available non-pay resources available compared to FY 2023. The 
reduction means that EPA may need to slow hiring in the Office of 
Pesticide Programs (OPP), cut contract support, or a combination of the 
two. Additionally, the FY 2024 PRIA fee collections are much lower than 
expected (by about $6 million dollars) leaving OPP with even fewer 
resources.
    In addition to a likely hiring freeze, OPP will likely need to slow 
their efforts to modernize our work like digital labelling, automating 
internal workflows, and implementing a streamlined platform for 
submitting and managing applications--all of which would help speed up 
pesticide reviews. These reductions in funding could delay pesticide 
actions an estimated 6-12 months.
    Question. How many net staff were added during FY 2023 with the 
additional resources available to the agency?
    Answer. The Office of Pesticides Program (OPP) added 14 (14) 
additional positions with the additional resources within the 
Environmental Programs and Management (EPM) appropriation.
    Question. What is the average time required to hire a new Office of 
Pesticide Programs staff person from the time the position is 
advertised to their first day on the job? How does this compare within 
other EPA divisions?
    Answer. In FY2023, for OPP it took an average of 78 days to hire a 
new staff person. The Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics (OPPT) 
(a separate office within EPA's Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution 
Prevention (OCSPP)) takes an average of 98 days to hire a new staff 
person. Other EPA divisions, on average, take 101 days to hire a new 
staff person. The reduction in funding to EPAs HR Office may result in 
longer overall hiring times.
    Question. It has been characterized that the $6 million funding 
decrease represents a 30 FTE loss to the agency. How many vacancies 
existed when the FY 2023 appropriations act was signed into law on 
December 29, 2022? How many exist today?
    Answer. The $6 million funding decrease does represent a 30 full-
time equivalents (FTE) loss to the agency in that an FTE costs 
approximately $200,000 per year for full compensation and benefits. 
However, in implementing the budget reductions, EPA prioritized funding 
FTE which instead put pressure on program contract funding. In FY 2024, 
OPP had an operating plan reduction of 10 (10) FTE to help offset the 
reductions in the FY 2024 appropriation bill.
    At the end of FY 2023, OPP had 14 (14) vacancies. OPP currently has 
20 (20) vacancies.
    Question. What investments is EPA making in IT or artificial 
intelligence to make the registration process more efficient?
    Answer. EPA continues to implement a workflow IT system within 
Salesforce platform to modernize and improve registration processes. 
However, the pace of implementation will be decreased due to funding 
with some projects delayed for 6 months or more.
    Question. What progress has EPA made in issuing a competitive bid 
for an independent third-party assessment of the Agency's workforce 
processes and performance?
    Answer. An existing EPA contract has been identified and we are 
drafting the statement of work, independent government cost estimate, 
and market research to ensure the existing contract can provide the 
services we need for our workforce process and performance. We 
anticipate having the contract in place sometime in FY 2025.
    Question. PRIA requires that EPA publish an annual report in late 
January. EPA still has not issued the 2023 PRIA annual report. What is 
the status of this report?
    Answer.The report was issued May 17, 2024, and can be found at 
https://www.epa.gov/pria-fees/implementing-pesticide-registration-
improvement-act-2022-pria-5-fiscal-year-2023.
    Question. Per EPA, scrap metal that is not excluded under 40 CFR 
section 261.4(a)(13) is not subject to Resource Conservation and 
Recovery Act (RCRA) hazardous waste regulation when recycled. Rather, 
it is a valuable product that propels our domestic circular economy.
    The State of California's Department of Toxic Substances Control 
(DTSC) has been using ad hoc enforcement to advance its own view that 
scrap metal must be managed as hazardous waste during recycling 
operations.
  --Does EPA view DTSC's actions treating scrap metal as hazardous 
        waste in conflict with Federal RCRA?
  --Does EPA view permitting DTSC to regulate scrap metal as hazardous 
        waste as setting a precedent that will result in scrap metal 
        bypassing recycling operations?
    Answer. Under RCRA Subtitle C, EPA may authorize States to 
implement their own hazardous waste programs in lieu of the Federal 
program. California has an authorized state RCRA program. EPA recently 
responded to a petition for Corrective Action or Withdrawal of Program 
Approval for California's RCRA Hazardous Waste Program. The response 
addresses the petitioners' concerns regarding California's regulation 
of material the petitioners characterize as ``scrap metal.'' As 
described in the response, ``scrap metal'' is a defined term. Whether a 
material truly qualifies as scrap metal is a technical and fact-
specific inquiry, and EPA has no basis to believe California is 
regulating materials in a way that is not in keeping with the Federal 
(or authorized state) regulations. But in any event, as the response 
explains, state RCRA programs may impose requirements that are more 
stringent or broader in scope than the Federal program. As a result, 
EPA has no basis to believe that DTSC's actions conflict with RCRA. The 
response (attached) addresses your first question in further detail.
    With respect to setting a precedent about scrap metal recycling, 
EPA does not view its response to the petition as precedential because 
it does not reflect any new principles. Rather, it determines that the 
petition did not demonstrate that California's actions are inconsistent 
with either its authorized program or the Federal program. Moreover, 
EPA did not ``permit'' DTSC to regulate scrap metal in any particular 
way; States are free to impose solid and hazardous waste requirements 
that are more stringent and broader in scope than the Federal program. 
The RCRA regulations do have a consistency requirement in 40 CFR 271.4. 
However, the requirement is particularly concerned with State programs 
that would prevent the movement of hazardous waste across state lines, 
and RCRA does not require uniformity among State programs. Such an 
interpretation of consistency would be inconsistent with RCRA and EPA's 
regulations.
    Question. How is EPA ensuring that Waste Emissions Charge 
calculation methods are equitable across a variety of oil and gas 
production areas with widely varying operating characteristics?
    Answer. Congress directed EPA to collect a Waste Emissions Charge 
on waste emissions of methane from applicable facilities that exceed 
statutory thresholds. Congress established separate thresholds for 
different industry segments; Congress did not establish separate 
thresholds based on operating characteristics or geographic location 
within those industry segments. EPA has engaged extensively with 
stakeholders, including producers, and will continue that engagement as 
we implement the Waste Emissions Charge. The charge incentivizes oil 
and gas companies to deploy available technologies and best practices 
to reduce harmful and wasteful oil and gas emissions. The proposed rule 
implements the specific requirements for calculating the Waste 
Emissions Charge, including flexibilities such as netting and 
exemptions, that were established by Congress in sections 136(c)-(g) of 
the Clean Air Act.
    Congress also directed EPA to revise its greenhouse gas reporting 
requirements to ensure that the Waste Emissions Charge is based on 
empirical data, and that the reporting accurately reflects total 
methane emissions from the applicable facilities.
    Question. EPA recently finalized Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program 
(GHGRP) requirements for the petroleum and natural gas sector. EPA will 
reportedly solicit input on the use of advanced measurement data and 
methods included in the revised methane rule to consider future 
rulemaking for the use of these technologies beyond that already 
included in the rule, and pledged to conduct engagements to learn about 
technological advances for measurement and detection technologies, and 
their appropriateness for use in regulatory reporting programs. Did EPA 
understand the existing technologies enough to issue a rulemaking?
    EPA's final rule also does not allow for companies to use real-
world monitoring and compliance data when calculating their emissions. 
Does EPA have a concern that companies will stop paying for costly 
monitoring since monitoring and stopping emissions except in the case 
of large events will not impact their Waste Emissions Charge?
    Answer. EPA's recent final rule updating and strengthening the 
Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program (GHGRP) requirements for the petroleum 
and natural gas sector, a key component of the IRA's Methane Emissions 
Reduction Program, will significantly improve the accuracy, 
transparency, and accountability of methane emissions reporting from 
oil and gas facilities, including by incorporating advanced measurement 
data collected by satellites and other advanced technologies for the 
first time. These final revisions to Subpart W will also inform EPA's 
congressionally directed mandate to implement a Waste Emissions Charge 
on methane emissions from large oil and gas facilities found to be 
high-emitting and wasteful. Together with over $1 billion in financial 
and technical assistance to support methane monitoring and accelerate 
the transition to technologies that reduce methane emissions, EPA's 
actions will advance the adoption of clean, cost-effective 
technologies, reduce wasteful practices, and yield significant economic 
and environmental benefits.
    The final subpart W rule allows owners and operators of oil and gas 
facilities to utilize advanced measurement technologies to quantify 
emissions from large release events not otherwise covered by EPA's 
Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program requirements. In addition, the final 
subpart W rule requires owners and operators to quantify emissions 
associated with super-emitter events that are reported to EPA through 
the Super-Emitter Program finalized as part of EPA's new Clean Air Act 
rule for new and existing oil and gas facilities. These provisions of 
subpart W reflect EPA's review of a variety of advanced measurement 
approaches that utilize information from satellite, aerial, drone, 
vehicle, and stationary platforms to detect and/or quantify methane 
emissions from petroleum and natural gas systems at different spatial 
and temporal scales. Advanced technologies have been a focus for 
research and emission monitoring strategies, and several technologies 
have progressed in recent years to provide valuable CH4 emission data. 
The spatial and temporal resolution of emission estimates varies 
widely, however, depending on the technology and platform. Given 
current detection limits and the uncertainty associated with advanced 
technologies, our analysis in the final subpart W rule is that advanced 
measurement methods based on remote sensing or continuous monitoring 
systems are currently appropriate for contributing to the 
quantification of emissions from other large release events. As the 
technologies continue to improve, we will evaluate whether and how 
remote sensing approaches could be used to estimate annual emissions 
from other sources under subpart W.
    The final rule also adds new calculation methods, including 
expanding the available options that use advanced technologies or other 
direct measurement or survey methods, to allow owners and operators to 
submit empirical emissions data. The inclusion of additional 
measurement and survey options is expected to incentivize the use of 
monitoring data.
    For example, facilities may choose to install continuous flow 
monitoring devices on natural gas supply lines dedicated to pneumatic 
devices and if installed, would use the measurement to calculate 
emissions. In the final rule, reporters also have the option to use 
advanced technologies to develop destruction and combustion 
efficiencies different than the default values when they elect to use 
an alternative test method that has been approved under 40 CFR 
60.5412b(d) of NSPS OOOOb.
    We expect that the availability of additional calculation methods 
will incentivize the use of monitoring data to calculate emissions and 
help incentivize the deployment of new technology meant to reduce 
emissions.
    Question. EPA's methane emissions proposals introduces the term 
``substantive errors'' but the definition of such errors is overly 
vague to the point that even the smallest of errors which do not impact 
the Waste Emissions Charge would trigger a revision. Has EPA considered 
a materiality threshold?
    Answer. The EPA's proposed Waste Emissions Charge Rule was 
developed to implement the Congressional directive to impose and 
collect a charge on methane emissions from oil and gas operations that 
meet statutorily defined criteria. The EPA proposed to define a 
``substantive error'' for the purposes of the Waste Emissions Charge 
Rule as any error in reporting that impacts the ability to accurately 
calculate the Waste Emissions Charge. This proposed definition 
parallels the established definition of ``substantive error'' in the 
Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program at 40 CFR 98.3(h)(3). The EPA is 
reviewing comments on the proposed rule, including on the proposed 
reporting requirements, and will consider them in the development of 
the final rule.
    Question. In the EPA's Proposed Rule on Effluent Limitation 
Guidelines for Meat and Poultry Products, the agency admits that some 
meat and poultry processing companies may have to close plants if the 
rule is implemented as draft. These forced closures and resulting 
reductions in production will have negative impacts not only on the 
country's food supply and food costs, but will also result in economic 
harm to farmers, growers, and producers due to overall lack of demand 
for their crops and animals. This proposed rule seems to directly 
contradict this Administration's goal to create a more resilient meat 
and poultry supply chain. How has EPA modeled and considered how 
agriculture producers, food supply, and consumer prices will be each be 
impacted by this rule?
    Answer. The EPA considered how agriculture producers, food supply, 
and consumer prices will be impacted by this rule by examining the 
effects of the proposed rule on the National markets for beef, pork, 
chicken, and turkey. The EPA modeled the impact by developing supply 
and demand equations for each meat product market based on the pre-
regulatory conditions and then estimated how each market would change 
if the proposed rule were to go into effect. The EPA looked at the 
potential effect of regulatory compliance cost on facility cash flow. 
Based on that, the EPA estimated that 16 facilities would incur 
negative cash flows, where they might decide to close. However, 
facilities may also choose to continue operating, and change their 
production operation and model, pay less for the livestock, or charge 
more to the retailers to address the possible negative cash flow. Also, 
these facilities, because they are treating their wastewater first, may 
pay less to the wastewater treatment plant receiving the cleaner 
wastewater, and this potential cost savings was not incorporated into 
the model.
    Under the EPA's analysis for its preferred option, only 0.4% of the 
total universe of 3,897 discharging meat and poultry products 
facilities may consider closing. The EPA's preferred option would be 
considered economically achievable under any reasonable measure of 
impacts. Even under the two more extensive options in the proposed 
rule, projected possible closures are no more than 1.4% of the universe 
of discharging facilities. In light of the Administration's goal to 
create a more resilient meat and poultry supply chain, the EPA 
structured all three options to avoid undue financial stress on the 
industry as a whole and expressed a preference in the proposal for 
option 1.
    Question. Several technologies and chemical treatments that EPA 
highlights in the recent proposed rule on Effluent Limitation 
Guidelines (ELG) for Meat and Poultry Processors will result in the 
increased production of solids. If solids cannot be land applied 
(either because of the composition of the material or lack of available 
sites), the solids must be disposed of via landfill or other expensive 
and less environmentally friendly options. How has EPA modeled this 
displacement and environmental harms resulting from this rule?
    Answer. EPA modelled the net incremental increases in solid waste 
generation for the meat and poultry products ELG Proposed Rule, which 
are estimated between 384,000 and 1,210,000 tons per year. To account 
for the generation of these solids, the EPA included capital and 
operation and maintenance cost for solids handling equipment, and 
solids disposal at a landfill associated with the incremental increases 
in solid waste generation.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Merkley. So, appreciate your service. The hearing 
is adjourned.
    Mr. Regan. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. [Whereupon, at 4:01 p.m., Wednesday, May 
1, and the subcommittee recessed, to reconvene at a time 
subject to the call of the Chair.]



     DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES 
                  APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                         WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:30 a.m. in 
Room SD-138, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Jeff Merkley 
(chairman) presiding.
    Present: Senators Merkley, Murray, Reed, Van Hollen, 
Peters, Murkowski, Hoeven, Fischer, and Britt.

                       DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

STATEMENT OF HON. DEB HAALAND, SECRETARY

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JEFF MERKLEY

    Senator Merkley. Good morning. And welcome to the Interior 
Environment Appropriations Subcommittee hearing on the fiscal 
year 2025 President's Budget for the Department of the 
Interior.
    Secretary Haaland, thank you so much for being here today, 
along with your team members.
    In 2023, we had the hottest day, the hottest month, the 
hottest year in recorded human history. There is no doubt that 
climate chaos is wreaking havoc on our land, our wildlife, our 
own health. In my home state of Oregon, as temperatures have 
steadily climbed, the average snowpack in the Cascades has 
fallen by 20 feet in the last 90 years.
    This means there is less snow melt running down to our 
streams and rivers, devastating trout and salmon populations, 
less water for our ranchers and our farmers, and continuing 
drought cycle after drought cycle without relief. Wildfire 
season is starting early and ending later each year, the fires 
becoming more extreme.
    Secretary Haaland, you and President Biden have made 
fighting climate change, or as I like to call it ``climate 
chaos'', a cornerstone of the administration. I have pushed the 
administration to be even more aggressive, to work faster on 
rulemakings, and leasing decisions, and other actions, to 
address this challenge. And I will keep making that advocacy, 
since climate chaos is such a great threat to all of us.
    But we shouldn't lose sight of how far the administration 
has come, making a number of decisions, you and your team, the 
hard work you have been putting in, digging out from dangerous 
policies, and catching up on a long to-do list. Congratulations 
on finalizing the Bureau of Land Management's Public Lands 
Conservation Rule. In essence, this rule formalizes what should 
have always been the case, that conservation is a valuable 
contribution and related to public land leasing, and as 
valuable and important as other uses, such as Energy 
Development and Recreation.
    For too long, public lands leasing has really only asked 
the question, to lease or not to lease, to drill, or mine, but 
this new rule puts conservation on an equal footing so public 
lands can be dedicated to restoring and protecting habitats, to 
fighting invasive species, and to improving the health and 
climate resilience of ecosystems and landscapes.
    Just one of the challenges of climate chaos is the growing 
extinction crisis, like the dramatic disappearance of the 
western monarchs and other native pollinators over the last 
decade, largely caused by the combination of habitat loss, 
pesticides, pollution, and invasive species. The loss of 
pollinators threatens to damage entire ecosystems and could 
devastate significant sectors of our agricultural economy.
    Secretary Haaland, thank you for your efforts to work with 
me to create the Center for Pollinator Conservation, a one-stop 
shop of ideas to help stakeholders promote collaboration, and 
provide solutions to the stressors driving pollinator decline. 
I want to continue to work with you and the Department so we 
can save and strengthen our pollinator populations.
    Turning to other issues in my home state, thank you to the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs Team in the Northwest Region for 
progress on the In-Lieu and Treaty Fishing Access Sites; 
Congress set aside these sites for tribal fishers whose 
traditional fishing grounds were lost to dam construction. The 
sites have a number of features, access roads, boat ramps, and 
fish cleaning tables.
    I visited these sites, and was really horrified by the lack 
of maintenance and facilities. So I was very pleased that we 
provided $9 million over the past two fiscal years to improve 
these sites, including $2.6 million to clean up the sites and 
improve infrastructure on the ground and in the water. And I am 
pleased with the quick progress that you all have made to make 
these safer, and cleaner, and more usable to tribal members.
    As you know, I have been asking questions about the process 
for offshore wind projects in Oregon. In March, our Oregon 
Governor, Governor Kotek, signed a bill to set the framework 
for an offshore wind roadmap, including stakeholder engagement 
with tribes, with fishermen, and coastal communities. I am 
encouraged by that public engagement, and I hope to work with 
the Department and the State to move forward with that 
engagement to make sure we get this right, what we call the 
Oregon Way, doing a transparent, honest conversation with 
existing stakeholders to work out win-win solutions.
    Thank you, also, for taking leadership of the Columbia 
River Basin Restoration Initiative. I can't tell you, and I 
know you understand how important salmon is to the tribal 
communities of the Northwest. This work will not only restore 
salmon but bolster resiliency and stability of the surrounding 
communities, the ecosystem as a whole, and the economic 
vitality of the region. It is a huge undertaking, given the $1 
billion in new Federal investments, and it requires sustained 
commitment from this administration and from Congress across 
multiple agencies and jurisdictions.
    I know there is a lot of work to do to complete this 
initiative, but I wanted to acknowledge the work that your team 
has done, underscore the confidence I have in your Department 
and the administration to see this vision through.
    Turning to the budget request: In fiscal year 2024, the 
first-round of budget caps imposed damaging cuts on important 
programs in the Interior Department. I was concerned about the 
budget caps in the Fiscal Responsibility Act because I thought 
they were irresponsible.
    As you work to manage your Department, you must be seeing 
not only immediate and painful impacts on staffing, but also on 
missed opportunities, missed opportunities to increase 
investment in reducing the loads of hazardous fuels that feed 
catastrophic wildfires. In my town halls where I go, open town 
hall in all 36 of our counties, I hear time and time again 
about, why can't we do more to make the forest more fire 
resilient, because loads of burnable materials have built up 
over time, and the very long, very dry, hot summers make this 
an enormous challenge, if we don't do more forest management.
    Another missed opportunity is increased strides in research 
and science that leads to better decisionmaking in protecting 
our lands, waters, and wildlife, to better meet our trust and 
treaty responsibilities by increasing support for tribal 
communities, and to more aggressively fight climate chaos.
    We also miss the opportunity to properly staff our national 
parks and other public lands as the summer season approaches. I 
am pleased to see that in the fiscal year 2025 Budget Request 
of $16.3 billion, it addresses some of the damage done by the 
caps in fiscal year 2024. The request also makes modest 
increases for critical priorities such as tribal communities, 
education, public lands, wildfire staff increases, and critical 
conservation initiatives.
    I support these efforts. In fact, I would probably like to 
go further than the request proposes, because I feel that the 
situation we are in is not sufficient to respond to the climate 
crisis, the extinction crisis, the chronic funding gaps in 
Indian Country, and other threats to our land and water. We 
must work to make sure that the fiscal year 2025 budget caps 
are increased so that we can start again to do our jobs as 
appropriators and address these overlooked, underfunded needs.
    Thank you for your dedication, Secretary Haaland, to the 
people and to the mission of the Interior Department.
    I now turn to our Ranking Member Murkowski from Alaska, for 
her comments.

                  STATEMENT OF SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI

    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And appreciate 
you being here, Madam Secretary. We had an opportunity briefly 
to see one another last week at an AFN Reception where I think 
it was good to note the progress that has been made with 
murdered missing indigenous women, and persons, and recognizing 
that May 5th was a day to acknowledge some of that progress. So 
I thank you for that.
    I also saw you last week at the Energy and Natural 
Resources Committee. That was probably a much less pleasant 
time for you. You certainly heard my frustration about the 
Department's continued targeting of resources and resource 
development specifically in my home state of Alaska.
    To kind of share with colleagues, if you are interested, I 
am just going to recount one day, and it was not a good day. 
But it was one day out of many. It was April 19th when the 
State of Alaska was targeted with three separate releases, 
three separate declarations out of the administration. The 
Department closed 13 million acres of our petroleum reserve. 
The Department rejected the Ambler Access Project, which is 
guaranteed by law. And the Department issued a major land plan 
that failed to lift public land orders that was directed by a 
law, that I wrote 20 years ago. For 20 years, we have been 
trying to advance this.
    But this day, April 19th, where there were three measures 
that came out of the administration that just kind of laid 
Alaska to its knees, these are on top of dozens of others that 
have effectively worked to limit Alaska's opportunity when it 
comes to our resources. The term that I have used and others 
have picked up is that Alaska is being sanctioned by this 
administration more heavily than they say sanctioned regimes in 
places like Iran or Venezuela.
    When President Carter signed Alaska National Interest Lands 
Conservation Act (ANILCA) in 1980, he promised in that that 100 
percent of Alaska's offshore and 95 percent of our onshore 
would be open to responsible development. And Alaskans accepted 
that. We accepted that in good faith in exchange for tens of 
millions of acres that were placed in Federal conservation 
status. And so, just as we did in our Statehood Act, we assumed 
that we would have access to the lands that had been granted 
that we had selected.
    And so the irony is not lost on me, that President Biden, 
who voted for ANILCA, is now turning his back on what was a 
very carefully balanced effort, and is part of Alaska's 
foundational laws, and instead he is cutting off vast swaths of 
our state to score points with the environmental community in 
the name of, quote, ``Protecting 30 percent of America's lands 
by 2030''. And more immediately, I think, an effort to court 
voters.
    But in the meantime, Alaskans are left asking themselves, 
they are saying: Why? What is it? Alaska doesn't need to be 
protected from Alaskans. This is an area that we treasure, we 
love. It is our home. Alaskan Native people, as you well know, 
Madam Secretary, have been stewards of the land since time 
immemorial. We recognize the development is not appropriate in 
all places, and then when we do seek to develop, we don't ask 
for very much.
    The Coastal Plain; the Coastal Plan, the agreement in the 
law that was passed, the 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act, agreed to 
access to 2,000 surface acres. It is one-10,000th of all of 
ANWR, one-10,000th, we describe it by way of a postage stamp. 
We describe it in ways that people recognize the 
extraordinarily small footprint. So when I look at that, and it 
is like: How is that for balance? Because effectively you have 
get Alaska that gets one part, and the Federal Government gets 
9,999. That doesn't seem like balance, but that was what we 
were asking for, not too much, and then where we have 
developed, our development, our environmental record, I will 
contend is second to none.
    And yet somehow, our record, our excellent record hasn't 
resulted in the trust that we deserve, but instead an even 
stronger effort to take more away. And that is a mistake. It is 
just absolutely, absolutely a mistake. There is so much that we 
have to offer in terms of energy, in terms of the minerals that 
we need to produce the clean energy. But it seems like the 
administration just does not care.
    Never mind that shutting down Alaska undermines the 
administration's own policies. Never mind that this enables 
authoritarian regimes, human rights abuses, environmental 
devastation in other nations. It just seems that the 
administration would rather export environmental injustice 
abroad, than develop our own resources to help our own people.
    So today, I see a Department that ignores the law with 
regards to Ambler, with regards to our petroleum reserve, with 
regards to our land management plans, our coastal plain, and 
the prioritization of conservation above all else. Even when it 
seems that you have the opportunity to do the right thing, you 
fail in it.
    A few months ago, I wrote language right here in this 
committee that directed you, Madam Secretary, to go back and 
consult with the Alaskan Natives on the North Slope before 
finalizing the NPRA Rule. If the Department have done that, if 
you had actually done that, you would have learned that those 
who live there, they didn't support that rule. You would know 
that they don't want Interior to protect them from the economic 
development that has done more to increase their life 
expectancies than anything else has.
    But you ignore the direction, and them, and the law, and 
Alaska's Congressional Delegation, and the Alaska's State 
Legislature, and you issued a bad Rule.
    And so I asked you last week to give some thought to what 
justifies this administration's treatment of Alaska. Why are we 
treated like one big national park and wildlife refuge, instead 
of a state that has balanced the need for development and the 
desire for conservation? Because that is what we try to do 
every single day, but when one end of that bargain is lost, the 
whole thing is lost. It took decades to settle Alaska lands 
matters but less than 4 years for this Administration to just 
turn everything on its head.
    So I hope that you are ready to answer my questions today, 
because right now I am in a position, I am in a place where it 
is really hard for me to discuss the budget request. All I can 
think of is if Interior is going to use its funding to make 
these kinds of decisions that penalize my state in this way. 
Then, I feel like what we need to be doing here is looking for 
ways to cut the Department's budget until the Department gets 
the point and returns to following the law and the balance that 
is reflected within it.
    So I am going to have a whole series of questions this 
morning, Mr. Chairman. And hopefully we can get some answers to 
some of the things that I have raised. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Well, thank you very much, Senator. And 
this is a great opportunity to ask those questions.
    We are going to now have five-minute rounds for questions, 
and I will ask everyone to not ask a question after your five 
minutes has expired. We will give the Secretary the ability to 
continue responding, and that way we will hopefully get through 
folks and have round two, round three, round four, and if I 
violate this myself, you feel free to gavel me down.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Merkley. And can we put five minutes on the clock?
    Well, first we have to hear your testimony. We are just so 
eager to get into our questions.
    [Laughter.]

                 SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. DEB HAALAND

    Secretary Haaland. And as eager as I am to hear your 
questions. Thank you for giving me time for my oral statement.
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify in 
support of Interior's fiscal year 2025 Budget Request.
    I appreciate all of the support the subcommittee, and your 
staff, have consistently shown the Department of the Interior. 
I have especially enjoyed visiting many of your home states; 
every trip informs my understanding of the issues important to 
the American people, the impact of the work that we do, and how 
our budget can support those interests.
    Our 2025 budget total is $18 billion in current authority. 
Of that amount, $16.4 billion is within the jurisdiction of the 
Interior Appropriations Subcommittee. First, I want to 
highlight several important proposals: permanent pay 
legislation and reforms for our Wildland Fire workforce, 
mandatory funding for future Indian Water Rights Settlements, 
and reclassifying Contract Support Costs, and leasing payments 
to tribes from discretionary to mandatory funding starting in 
fiscal year 2026.
    This administration has made a steadfast commitment to 
strengthen government-to-government relationships with Tribal 
Nations. We are doing so, thanks to significant investments 
from Congress, which are helping address the deficiencies that 
decades of underfunding have created. I am grateful to the 
Members of this Subcommittee for working on a bipartisan basis 
to champion tribal priorities.
    With a total request of $4.6 billion for Indian Affairs 
programs, this budget will address complex and difficult 
challenges such as the Missing and Murdered Indigenous People's 
Crisis, the legacy and continuing impacts of Federal Indian 
Boarding School policies, and Native language revitalization.
    Public safety continues to be a top priority for tribal 
leaders across the country. The budget includes $651 million to 
support critical public safety needs across all of Indian 
Country. We also request $1.5 billion for Indian education 
programs, with strong investments in the day-to-day operations 
of schools. This funding is critical as we prepare the next 
generation of indigenous Americans to lead their communities.
    Turning to wildland fire, we continue to see the 
devastating impacts fires are having across the country. I want 
to thank this subcommittee for your bipartisan support for 
extending supplemental fire pay for another year. The 2025 
budget invests in reforms, including $75 million to support 
permanent pay increases for Federal and tribal wildland 
firefighters.
    Stewardship of our natural resources is a core mission for 
us. Interior manages about 20 percent of American America's 
lands and is responsible for protection and recovery of more 
than 2,300 endangered and threatened species. Our request 
includes $2.8 billion in annual funding for conservation 
efforts that support key initiatives, such as wildlife 
corridors, and implementing the National Seed Strategy.
    I am proud of the proposal of $8 million for a mandatory 
funded Tribal Land Acquisition Program, a top priority of 
Tribes, as part of our implementation of the Land and Water 
Conservation Fund Program. This proposal honors the role Tribes 
play as stewards of the land, and will help ensure they have 
the resources to ensure healthy lands for future generations.
    The 2025 budget invests $189 million to continue the 
progress we have made in deploying clean energy, building a 
resilient domestic-based supply chain, and creating thousands 
of good-paying jobs. The demand for renewable energy has never 
been greater, and Interior is leading the way to a clean energy 
future.
    Regarding infrastructure, our request includes $2.7 billion 
to fund operations and maintenance for more than 130,000 
buildings and structures, and 65,000 miles of public roads. In 
addition, there is $1.6 billion in mandatory funding available 
in 2025 through the Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) Legacy 
Restoration Fund. We are currently executing 326 GAOA-funded 
projects, with 83 additional projects requested for 2025.
    We cannot address our major maintenance needs through 
annual appropriations alone. I look forward to working with 
Congress to reauthorize the GAOA Legacy Restoration Fund.
    Overall, the President's budget request for Interior 
invests in programs to strengthen our Nation for all Americans. 
This great work would not be possible without the dedication of 
career public servants at Interior.
    I look forward to our continued work together on these 
important issues. Thank you for your partnership and support 
for the important work at the Department and its incredible 
employees.
    I am pleased that Denise Flanagan, Joan Mooney, and myself, 
will be here to answer any questions that you have.
    [The statement follows:]
                 Prepared Statement of Hon. Deb Haaland
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify in support of 
the Interior Department's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request.
    It is an honor and privilege for me to be here with you today to 
speak on behalf of the President's 2025 Budget for the Department of 
the Interior. I value and appreciate the tradition Interior has had 
working together with this subcommittee to accomplish great things for 
the American people. Interior Appropriations plays a vital role in the 
success of our agency. I look forward to working with the Members of 
this subcommittee this year in continued collaboration to address some 
of our country's most pressing challenges.
    As the steward of 20 percent of America's lands, the DOI serves 
critical roles for the Nation. Interior's programs are important to the 
Nation's economy: generating jobs, supporting local economic growth, 
building resilience to the changing climate, and managing important 
natural and cultural resources. Interior is also charged with unique 
responsibilities to fulfill the Nation's Trust and other obligations to 
American Indians, Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians and the Insular 
Areas. In addition, Interior's scientists and technical experts provide 
actionable science and monitoring data people depend on to prepare for 
and respond to natural hazards, drought, and wildland fires.
    The Department's 2025 budget totals $18.0 billion in current 
authority ($17.8 billion in net discretionary authority)-an increase of 
$575.9 million, or 3 percent, from the 2024 continuing resolution (CR) 
level. An additional $360.0 million is accessible through a budget cap 
adjustment for wildfire suppression to ensure funds are available in 
the event the regular annual appropriation is inadequate to meet 
suppression needs. The budget also includes an estimated $14.8 billion 
in permanent funding available in 2025.
    Within the requested increase for 2025, $206.0 million is needed to 
cover fixed-cost increases, such as rent and Federal salary 
adjustments, to maintain Interior's core operations carried out by more 
than 68,000 people living and working in every corner of the country. 
The 2025 request also includes $412.2 million needed to keep pace with 
2024 fixed costs that are not included in the 2024 CR base.
    The 2025 President's Budget also allocates important mandatory 
funding available in 2025 through the Great American Outdoors Act 
(GAOA). This includes $1.6 billion for deferred maintenance projects 
through the Legacy Restoration Fund (LRF) in the Bureau of Land 
Management (BLM), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), National Park 
Service (NPS), and Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) and $681.9 million 
in mandatory funding for Interior's Land and Water Conservation Fund 
(LWCF) programs. Interior's 2025 allocation for LWCF includes $313.0 
million for voluntary Federal land acquisition projects and programs, 
$8.0 million for a new Tribal LWCF land acquisition program, and $360.8 
million for grant programs. An additional $117.9 million is estimated 
to be available for State LWCF grants in FY 2025 from offshore oil and 
gas revenue in the Gulf of Mexico.
                       2025 legislative proposals
    The 2025 budget request includes the following legislative 
proposals and technical budgetary adjustments.
    Wildland Firefighting Workforce-The 2025 President's Budget 
provides funding increases to advance wildland firefighter workforce 
reform initiatives first proposed in the 2024 budget. The cornerstone 
of these long-term reforms is a permanent increase in pay, as provided 
for in the pay reform legislation transmitted to Congress in March 
2023. This legislation will establish a special base rate salary table 
for wildland firefighters, create a new premium pay category that 
provides additional compensation for all hours a wildland fire 
responder is mobilized on an incident, and establish a streamlined pay 
cap that includes waiver authority to the Secretary on the basis of 
specific criteria. The budget includes funding for these Federal pay 
reforms and similar pay increases for Tribal personnel. These proposals 
build upon the historic reforms in the BIL to ensure wildland fire 
personnel receive the enhanced support they need to meet evolving 
mission demands from the increasing frequency and intensity of 
catastrophic wildfires, which are expected to continue due to climate 
change.
    Indian Water Rights Settlements-The budget proposes $2.8 billion in 
mandatory funding over 10 years to expand the Indian Water Rights 
Settlement Completion Fund to cover the costs of enacted and future 
water rights settlements and provide for ongoing operations and 
maintenance costs associated with enacted water settlements managed by 
the Bureau of Reclamation.
    Providing a stable, dedicated funding source for Indian water 
rights settlements helps to ensure these commitments are honored and 
Tribal communities have safe, reliable water supplies to support public 
and environmental health and economic opportunity.
    Transfer Authority for Implementation of BIL Projects-The 2025 
budget continues to propose appropriations language to expand authority 
for Federal agencies to transfer funds provided under the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law (BIL) to FWS to accelerate and improve Endangered 
Species Act consultations in support of responsible development of 
priority infrastructure projects and energy solutions.
    Tribal Contract Support Costs-Contract Support Costs funding is a 
critical Tribal sovereignty payment enabling Tribes to assume 
responsibility for operating Federal programs by covering the costs to 
administer the programs. The budget proposes to reclassify Tribal 
Contract Support Costs from discretionary to mandatory funding 
beginning in 2026 and requests discretionary funding in 2025 to fully 
cover estimated requirements.
    Payments for Tribal Leases-Section 105(l) of the Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act provides that Tribes and 
Tribal organizations carrying out Federal functions under a self-
determination contract or self-governance compact may enter into a 
lease agreement with the Department of the Interior for the tribally 
owned or rented facility used to carry out those functions. This 
critical Tribal sovereignty payment is allowing Indian Affairs to get 
Tribes closer to meeting the full cost of program implementation and 
improve their facilities. The 2025 budget proposes to reclassify 
funding for 105(l) lease agreement requirements from discretionary to 
mandatory funding beginning in 2026 and requests discretionary funding 
in 2025 to fully cover estimated requirements.
    Land and Water Conservation Fund Program for Tribes-The budget 
proposes language that will allocate $8.0 million of mandatory LWCF 
funding to establish a Tribal LWCF program in the Office of the 
Secretary account. The program will be managed by the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs to award funding for Tribal land acquisition proposals that 
meet the criteria of the Land and Water Conservation Fund to advance 
conservation and recreation opportunities. This program will, for the 
first time, provide Tribes direct access to participate in LWCF without 
relying on partners- an important advancement supporting Tribal Self-
Determination.
                      strengthening tribal nations
    This Administration has made a steadfast commitment to honor our 
Nation's Tribal trust responsibilities and strengthen government-to-
government relationships with Tribal Nations. This budget maintains 
that commitment to support and expand this work with a total request of 
$4.6 billion for Indian Affairs programs. Through initiatives 
addressing complex and difficult challenges, such as addressing the 
legacy of the Federal Indian Boarding Schools, meeting the need for 
native language revitalization, and coordinating Federal efforts to 
address Missing and Murdered Indigenous People, this Administration's 
commitment to respect the sovereignty of Tribal Nations and address 
long-standing disparities is unprecedented.
                      honoring tribal sovereignty
    The 2025 budget makes significant investments in Tribal sovereignty 
and revitalization, providing new and expanded funding opportunities 
and resources for Tribes to manage their lands and waters. Interior's 
efforts to strengthen Tribal sovereignty extend across the Department 
and with other Federal partners. For example, the Department held 
Tribal consultation sessions with the USDA, with the participation of 
NOAA, in which participants consistently pointed to the adverse impacts 
the changing climate is having on Alaska Native communities and 
subsistence practices, and they emphasized the need to expand Tribal 
co-management partnerships and incorporate Indigenous knowledge into 
subsistence management. Subsistence practices are vital to the lifeways 
of Alaska Native communities and people. Alaska Native people depend 
heavily on subsistence practices for their nutritional, social, 
economic, and traditional cultural needs. The budget includes increases 
in FWS and NPS to support resource management associated with Alaska 
Native subsistence. The Department is working to implement the FY 2024 
Congressional direction transferring the Office of Subsistence 
Management from FWS to the Office of the Secretary.
    In late 2023, I hosted the 12th and final session of the ``The Road 
to Healing'' tour, a year-long commitment to travel across the country 
to allow survivors of the Federal Indian boarding school system the 
opportunity to share their stories and help connect communities with 
trauma-informed support. During the ``Road to Healing'' Listening 
Sessions, one of the most significant Tribal concerns expressed was the 
devastating impact boarding school policies have had on the retention 
of Native languages in their communities. To address those concerns, 
the 2025 budget includes $18.0 million, an increase of $11.5 million 
from the 2024 CR amount, to expand BIA grant awards for Tribal Native 
language revitalization programs that are imperative to restore 
generational continuity and Tribal culture and strengthen Tribal 
sovereignty.
    The 2025 budget maintains the Administration's strong commitment to 
fully fund Tribal Contract Support Costs and Tribal 105 (l) lease 
costs, which compensate Tribes for the cost of administering programs 
on behalf of the Federal Government, and for the use of tribally owned 
space for the operation of Government-owned services. The budget 
continues to propose to reclassify these required costs as mandatory 
funding starting in FY 2026 and, for FY 2025, proposes discretionary 
funding to fully fund requirements in the budget year: an estimated 
$426.2 million for Contract Support Costs and $120.0 million for Tribal 
105(l) Lease Costs.
                    investing in tribal communities
    The budget includes $2.9 billion for Bureau of Indian Affairs 
programs, $344.8 million above the 2024 CR level. The 2025 BIA budget 
contains significant investments in Tribal communities, including $73.1 
million for the Tiwahe Initiative, $28.6 million above the 2024 CR 
level. Under Tiwahe, funding assists Tribes at selected sites to 
implement a tribally driven approach to deliver essential services more 
effectively and efficiently. The initiative facilitates collaboration 
within Tribal communities-which can help to leverage resources, share 
expertise, reduce duplication, and exchange information about families' 
needs-to formulate the most responsive approach to provide service. 
Since 2015, the Tiwahe Initiative has focused primarily on promoting 
family stability though several Human Services programs. The 
Department's 2025 budget further expands Tiwahe in Social Services, 
Indian Child Welfare Act, Housing, and Tribal Justice Support programs.
    The budget includes $50.1 million, $10.9 million above the 2024 CR 
level, to address another long-standing Tribal priority to improve road 
maintenance. Poor road conditions directly affect the quality of life 
in many Tribal communities, limiting transportation for public safety 
and emergency response, travel to school, and travel to work. This 
additional investment increases maintenance for an additional 5,000 
miles of BIA roads. Funding will also increase bridge maintenance and 
safety reviews of 250 bridges to inform prioritization, project 
selection, and planning to better implement construction funding 
available through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL). The 
estimated deferred maintenance backlog for BIA roads and bridges is 
nearly $400 million. BIA's budget includes additional investments in 
Tribal communities in areas such as Tribal climate resilience, social 
services, housing, and land consolidation.
    Public safety continues to be a top priority for Tribal leaders 
across the country. The elevated level of concern is coupled with 
emerging needs to expand services to address the McGirt v. Oklahoma 
decision and the needs of 31 Tribes that are eligible for but do not 
receive BIA public safety and justice funding. The budget includes 
$651.2 million in Tribal Public Safety and Justice funding, a net total 
change of $71.5 million above the 2024 CR level, to support critical 
public safety needs in Indian Country. The request provides additional 
resources to help meet Tribal needs in policing, detention, and Tribal 
courts. A $41.9 million program increase is included for Criminal 
Investigations and Police Services; of that amount, $33.5 million is 
specifically targeted to increase the number of officers and 
investigators on the ground in Indian Country. The budget also includes 
a $20.1 million increase for Detention and Corrections programs and 
maintains public safety and justice construction funding at the FY 2024 
CR level of $51.6 million.
                       advancing indian education
    Indian Education programs are funded in the 2025 budget at $1.5 
billion, $119.5 million above the 2024 CR level, to provide a strong 
educational foundation for Native children to succeed. Native students 
face stark inequities in access to education, many of which were 
highlighted and exacerbated by the pandemic. To help address the gap, 
the budget invests in the day-to-day operations of BIE-funded 
elementary and secondary schools. The budget includes $518.1 million, 
an increase of $36.5 million above the 2024 CR level, for Indian 
Student Equalization Program formula funds, which provide the primary 
support for academic activities in the classroom, instructional 
services, and teacher training, recruitment, and retention. The budget 
includes resources to operate and maintain BIE-funded schools and fully 
funds the estimated $100.7 million required for Tribal Grant Support 
costs, which cover the administration costs for Tribes that choose to 
operate BIE-funded schools. The 2025 budget also features $7.5 million 
for Native language immersion programs at BIE schools.
    The budget includes $191.1 million for postsecondary schools and 
programs-including Haskell Indian Nations University and Southwestern 
Indian Polytechnic Institute, Tribal colleges, universities, and 
technical colleges-and expanded Tribal scholarships and adult education 
programs.
    At $310.2 million in the 2025 budget, annual funding for Education 
Construction is $42.3 million above the 2024 CR level. The 2025 budget 
also continues efforts to address BIE-funded school facilities in poor 
condition and the deferred maintenance backlog in the BIE school 
system, which totals more than 180 schools. The budget includes $162.6 
million, $8.1 million above the 2024 CR level, for facilities 
operations and maintenance. An additional $95.0 million in mandatory 
funding for BIE school construction through the GAOA Legacy Restoration 
Fund is available in 2025 to support projects at two school campuses. 
Together, this funding will allow BIE to replace four schools in 2025 
and address cost increases at schools funded in prior years.
            meeting financial tribal trust responsibilities
    The 2025 budget includes $111.3 million, level with the 2024 CR 
amount, to support Tribal and Individual Indian Money financial 
functions managed by the Bureau of Trust Funds Administration (BTFA). 
BTFA was established within the Office of the Assistant Secretary- 
Indian Affairs in 2020 to house the ongoing financial trust management 
functions established through trust reforms carried out by the Office 
of the Special Trustee for American Indians.
    BTFA currently serves as the financial manager for more than $8 
billion of Indian Trust Funds and provides services for 4,200 Tribal 
accounts and roughly 411,000 Individual Indian Money accounts. Thank 
you for providing full recognition of BTFA as a bureau in the FY 2024 
Enacted Appropriation which will allow the organization to focus on its 
mission of serving Indian Country.
         addressing climate challenges and building resilience
    Across America, communities are enduring historic and catastrophic 
flooding, wildfires, extreme heat, drought, and more, and longer-term 
changes in temperature are affecting ecosystems and the economies that 
depend on them. The impacts of climate change are intensifying, 
disrupting lives and livelihoods, and causing billions of dollars in 
damages. Together with agencies across the Federal Government, States, 
Tribes, and other partners, Interior is working to address the 
immediate and long-term needs driven by the changing climate. 
Catastrophic fire, flood, and drought events are increasingly top-of-
mind considerations for Interior's resource managers. These events 
demand immediate attention and resources, but long-term success 
requires work to build climate resilience. The 2025 budget reflects 
Interior's important role in the all-of- government approach to 
tackling climate change and building long-term resilience. The budget 
invests $5.5 billion in climate adaptation and resilience efforts to 
address these important challenges.
                        wildland fire management
    The devastating consequences of severe wildfires continue to affect 
communities and wildland firefighters across the country. The National 
Interagency Coordination Center reports that more than 56,000 wildfires 
occurred across the United States in 2023, burning nearly 2.7 million 
acres. Climate change-driven, long-term trends continue, with 
increasing wildfire occurrence, burned area, and high-severity 
incidents expected in 2025 and beyond, with impacts ranging from direct 
loss of life and property to health, economic, and ecosystem impacts. 
For 2025, the President's Budget expands the Nation's response to 
wildfire impacts beyond the near term, investing in longer-term actions 
to restore wildfire resilience, rehabilitate burned areas, and increase 
the workforce capacity and capability to manage wildland fires.
    The 2025 budget request for the Department's Wildland Fire 
Management (WFM) programs is $1.6 billion, including $1.3 billion for 
WFM annual appropriations and $360.0 million for the Wildfire 
Suppression Operations Reserve Fund. The request for the WFM account 
includes $831.8 million in emergency designated appropriations (also 
referred to as shifted base). The total request is an increase of 
$206.7 million, and an estimated 61 Federal full-time equivalents 
(FTEs) and 7 Tribal FTE, a funding increase of 14.4 percent above the 
2024 CR level. The request includes $75.0 million to support permanent 
pay increases for Federal and Tribal wildland firefighters and an 
increase of $39.8 million above the 2024 CR level.
    The 2025 budget continues to press for implementation of permanent, 
comprehensive pay reform for Federal wildland firefighters at Interior 
and the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).
    Enacting pay reform is essential to meet the challenges posed by 
longer and more intense wildfire seasons to ensure stable firefighter 
recruitment and retention. The long-term reforms are supported by 
funding requested to implement a permanent pay increase to replace the 
temporary pay increases provided in the BIL and continued in the 2024 
Enacted Appropriation.
    Complementing these pay reforms are investments to enhance health 
services, hire additional permanent and temporary wildland firefighters 
to increase capacity, and improve government housing. These investments 
will help address long-standing recruitment and retention challenges, 
attend to firefighter mental health and well-being, increase the 
Department's capacity to complete critical risk mitigation and post-
fire recovery work, and further the Administration's commitment to 
build a more resilient wildland firefighting workforce as the frequency 
and intensity of catastrophic wildfires continue to increase due to 
climate change.
    The 2025 budget continues to reflect the important role proactive 
fuels management plays in wildland fire management to reduce the 
intensity, severity, and negative effects of wildfire and improve the 
resiliency of public and Tribal lands. The budget includes $287.6 
million for Fuels Management, which maintains program capacity at the 
2024 CR level and includes a program increase of $25.0 million to cover 
the program's share of the increased cost of the permanent firefighter 
pay reform. Combined with funding provided in the BIL for fuels 
management, the Department expects to treat 1.8 million acres in 2025.
    The 2025 budget also proposes appropriations language to increase 
Interior's flexibility to engage in cross-boundary fuels management and 
burned area rehabilitation work, including on non-Federal lands if the 
work benefits resources on Federal lands. These changes will address 
gaps and uncertainties in current authority and support implementation 
of the National Cohesive Wildland Fire Management Strategy. Among other 
benefits, these changes will support underserved communities that may 
be unable to share the costs for work that also benefits Federal 
jurisdictions.
    The budget for Wildland Fire includes $15.0 million for Facilities 
Construction and Maintenance, $5.0 million above the 2024 CR level, 
which includes $10.0 million to repair, renovate, and construct housing 
for wildland fire personnel. These funds will significantly help 
address the problem of inadequate or unaffordable housing facing many 
wildland firefighters working in certain geographic locations. The 
budget will further improve wildland fire management by establishing a 
Joint Office for Wildfire Science and Technology with the U.S. Forest 
Service. The budget includes $2.5 million in Interior's Preparedness 
program and $2.5 million in the U.S. Forest Service budget to support 
joint efforts leading to the development, deployment, and sustainment 
of technology, science, and data to be used to improve safety, 
effectiveness, and cost efficiency across the Wildland Fire Management 
program.
                  drought and ongoing water challenges
    Severe and sustained drought conditions across the West are forcing 
difficult challenges and choices to manage available water supplies. 
Limited water availability and increased wildland fire risk pose 
significant threats and challenges for communities, agriculture, 
Tribes, and ecosystems. Interior is bringing every resource to bear to 
help mitigate the impacts of drought and bolster long-term solutions 
supporting continued conservation and economic growth, so no community 
is left behind.
    The 2025 President's Budget for the Bureau of Reclamation, funded 
through the Energy and Water Development subcommittee, complements the 
transformative investments in water infrastructure, drought mitigation, 
and domestic water supply projects now underway through funding from 
the BIL and the IRA. The 2025 budget includes $1.5 billion for 
Reclamation's water programs and projects, sustaining a strong 
commitment to drought mitigation in the Bureau's annual appropriations. 
Funding in the request will help to ensure communities across the West 
have access to a resilient and reliable water supply by investing in 
rural water projects, water conservation, desalination technology 
development, and water recycling and reuse projects. The budget 
provides funding to address the ongoing drought affecting water systems 
across the West, including along the Colorado River System, which is 
near historically low levels.
    In the past 3 years, Interior has allocated $2.43 billion available 
through the BIL to address Indian water rights settlements enacted by 
Congress as of November 15, 2021. Indian reserved water rights are 
vested property rights for which the United States has a trust 
responsibility.
    Settlement of Indian water rights disputes helps create conditions 
that improve water resource management and provides certainty as to the 
rights of all water users who are parties to the disputes. Honoring 
those commitments promptly is especially important to the health, 
safety, and empowerment of Tribal communities.
    In addition to these previous investments, the budget provides 
$181.0 million in the Bureau of Reclamation to support the White 
Mountain Apache Tribe's water settlement agreement within the 
settlement's statutory completion deadline. The budget also includes 
$45.0 million in the Bureau of Indian Affairs to support payments 
authorized in the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement Act of 2022.
    The Administration proposes legislation to expand the Indian Water 
Rights Settlement Completion Fund. This proposal will provide $2.8 
billion in mandatory funding over 10 years to help ensure commitments 
are honored on existing, newly enacted, and anticipated Indian Water 
Rights Settlements. Included in this total is $340.0 million in 
mandatory funding for operations and maintenance costs associated with 
currently enacted Bureau of Reclamation funded settlement projects.
    The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) also works with partners to 
deliver water predictions and drought risk assessment tools that 
support the mitigation of and response to prolonged drought. USGS has 
supported extensive partner engagement throughout the Colorado River 
Basin with science to identify and begin to understand the cascading 
effects of drought on ecosystems and socioeconomic factors; improve 
partners' access to science, data, and tools; and improve the 
understanding of gains and losses of water as it moves from one 
Colorado River reservoir to another. Predictions and assessments-along 
with other fundamental information on how drought drives physical, 
biological, and chemical landscape change-are used to evaluate 
watershed conditions on multiple-use public lands, the status of fish 
and wildlife species, drought impacts on rangeland management, and 
plans and investments for infrastructure, conservation, and restoration 
projects. In FY 2025, USGS will invest an additional $7.0 million to 
support these efforts to address the critical issues facing our Nation 
due to drought.
                     building resilient communities
    The impacts of climate change on communities across the Nation have 
focused more attention on the need to strengthen resilience to these 
changes through short-term disaster preparedness and long-term planning 
and infrastructure investments. Interior programs advance these efforts 
in many ways through proactive investments leveraging science and 
critical monitoring networks.
    USGS manages the Groundwater and Streamflow Information Program, 
which maintains a nationwide network of streamflow and water level 
information collected from more than 31,000 sites. The budget includes 
$121.4 million for this program, $6.8 million above the 2024 CR level. 
Network information is available online to help States, Tribes, natural 
resource managers, scientists, and emergency managers across the 
country to monitor for floods and drought and forecast water 
availability for crops and natural resource management.
    The USGS Ecosystem Change Research Program analyzes and synthesizes 
the effects of environment, land use, and climate changes on ecosystems 
to inform natural resource management policy and decisions-including 
those concerning wildfires and drought-and collaborates with Tribal 
partners to assess climate impacts on Tribal lands and waters.
    As part of the USGS Coastal and Marine Hazards programs, 
researchers use on-the-ground field work, high-resolution data, and 
modeling to help communities understand and respond to changes in 
coastal landscapes. Federal, Tribal, State, and local entities around 
the country use USGS data to inform coastal management and strategic 
planning. Some organizations use this science to plan evacuation 
notices, inform city planning, and construct storm-resistant 
infrastructure. Others use USGS habitat assessments and decision-
support tools to restore coastal ecosystems and develop infrastructure 
that can help buffer future storm damage and coastal erosion. The 
budget includes $49.2 million for the Coastal and Marine Hazards 
program, $6.0 million above the 2024 CR level.
    The 2025 budget includes $48.8 million, $13.8 million above the 
2024 CR level, in the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) for Interior's 
Tribal Climate Resilience program to support Tribes in climate 
resilience planning, assessment, and adaptation activities. The program 
also funds planning and design work for Tribal communities evaluating 
the need for or pursuing climate- related relocation. This annually 
funded program complements the Voluntary Community- Driven Relocation 
program, led by Interior, and made possible with investments from the 
BIL and the IRA, with additional support for relocation from the 
Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Denali Commission. This 
initiative is helping Tribal communities severely affected by climate-
related environmental threats take the next step in the process of 
relocating crucial community infrastructure away from imminent threats.
    The Office of Insular Affairs budget includes $118.3 million for 
Assistance to Territories to support basic services in the Insular 
Areas and targeted investments related to climate change. These 
investments include $15.5 million to promote renewable energy and 
strengthen grid infrastructure in the Insular Areas and $2.8 million 
for work related to coral reef ecosystems and other natural resource 
needs. Funding in 2025 for Assistance to Territories includes total 
increases of $4.0 million for important investments needed to maintain 
ongoing support for conservation and climate resilience in the Insular 
Areas. These increases are offset by a reduction of $6.0 million 
reflecting the discontinuation of support for the discretionary funded 
Compact Impact program. Compact Impact is addressed in the recently 
enacted COFA legislation.
               healthy public lands, waters, and wildlife
    Interior manages more than 480 million acres of lands across the 
United States and is responsible for the protection and recovery of 
2,367 endangered and threatened species. Interior leads as an active 
partner in ongoing efforts to understand and mitigate climate impacts 
on natural resources, promote biodiversity, and ensure these valuable 
assets remain available for the public to experience and enjoy. Natural 
resource conservation, restoration, recovery, and adaptive management 
are a fundamental part of Interior's mission across the agency. 
Interior's conservation and adaptive management work relies heavily on 
partnerships and interagency collaboration to leverage information and 
resources. The 2025 budget includes roughly $2.8 billion in annual 
funding for conservation efforts, including critical work for 
restoration and improvements supporting healthier lands, waters, 
ecosystems, and their resident species.
    The 2025 budget includes targeted investments aimed at protecting 
biodiversity; restoring fish, wildlife, and their habitats; and halting 
nature loss. The request includes $2.0 billion for natural resource 
programs in NPS, BLM, and FWS. This funding supports Interior's core 
mission activities and at the same time supports the objectives of the 
America the Beautiful initiative to advance conservation efforts that 
are locally led, collaborative and inclusive, honor Tribal sovereignty, 
and follow science.
    The FWS budget invests $602.3 million in the National Wildlife 
Refuge System to maintain and operate 571 national refuge areas across 
the country. Each unit of the refuge system is established to target 
conservation of native species dependent on its lands and water, and 
all activities on those lands are reviewed for compatibility with this 
purpose. The budget includes $280.4 million for Wildlife and Habitat 
Management activities in the National refuge areas, an increase of 
$19.9 million above the 2024 CR amount.
    The budget also includes $942.5 million, an increase of $37.9 
million from the 2024 CR level, for FWS species and habitat 
conservation; restoration and recovery of species; migratory bird 
programs; fish and aquatic conservation; and international conservation 
programs. Many of these programs support collaborative partnerships 
leveraging the support of a wide range of partners, including 
sportspeople, local communities, private landowners, and Tribes. The 
budget includes $68.1 million for the Partners for Fish and Wildlife 
Program, $7.8 million above the 2024 CR level, to further support 
voluntary conservation on private lands-a key focus of the America the 
Beautiful initiative. The FWS budget also includes $17.6 million for 
the Migratory Bird Joint Ventures program, $0.8 million above the 2024 
CR amount, to continue collaborations with a multitude of partners to 
ensure the migratory pathways of our Nation's birds remain connected 
and support sustainable populations.
    A primary responsibility of the National Park Service is to 
conserve and protect the natural and cultural resources and values at 
429 park units, 25 trails, and 66 wild and scenic rivers. NPS natural 
resource stewardship activities support active management, research, 
and projects to conserve, protect, and better understand park natural 
resources. NPS is managing invasive plants and animals, restoring 
disturbed ecosystems, and addressing the resiliency of park resources 
to climate changes to conserve iconic natural resources and enhance the 
visitor experience. NPS develops best management practices and applies 
science to understand the risks to park resources from environmental 
hazards, identifies specific factors that affect park resources and 
park investments. National Park lands are also venues to collaborate 
with partners and the public on this important work. The budget 
includes $431.0 million for natural and cultural resource stewardship 
activities across the National parks, $11.3 million above the 2024 CR 
level.
    The Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) National Conservation Lands 
(NCL) system of national monuments and national conservation areas 
comprise nearly 37 million acres. The NCL system was created to 
recognize and help protect the outstanding value of these unique 
places, which are some of BLM's most popular and heavily visited sites. 
The 2025 budget includes $54.6 million, $4.0 million above the 2024 CR 
level, to maintain and operate these areas on behalf of the public. The 
funds support the management and operation of the NCL sites to protect 
and conserve these special places and address the impacts of stressors, 
such as high recreational use, invasive species, and climate change. 
BLM and its volunteers provide key visitor services and interpretive 
programs at areas with the highest visitation to offer the American 
people exceptional areas for recreation. The budget includes $61.5 
million, $5.9 million above the 2024 CR level, for recreation 
management activities across BLM. That amount includes increased 
funding to implement the MAPLand Act (Modernizing Access to Our Public 
Land Act) to improve geospatial data about and facilitate access to 
BLM-managed public lands.
    Interior bureaus often work collaboratively to address cross-
cutting resource stewardship challenges. A long-standing example of 
this approach is Interior's ongoing support to enhance wildlife 
migration corridors and habitat connectivity to help ensure fish and 
wildlife have the freedom to move and migrate, as areas are 
increasingly fragmented by roads, fences, and other barriers. Since 
2018, Interior has worked in partnership with 11 Western States, a wide 
diversity of nongovernmental organizations, and Western Tribes to 
support projects to better understand migration routes, remove barriers 
to migrating wildlife, and improve habitat conditions on public and 
private lands. The budget includes $12.0 million for migration corridor 
activities in the FWS, BLM, NPS, and the USGS to help leverage public-
private partnership efforts to protect pronghorn, elk, mule deer, and 
other iconic species across the West. As part of this work, USGS has 
led development of the coproduced science needed to manage migration 
corridors. Because of the widely acknowledged value of this work and 
the recognition of increasing threats to Western landscapes, the 2025 
USGS budget includes $3.9 million to support this work, a program 
increase of $3.5 million above the 2024 CR level.
    Interior plays a leadership role in implementing the National Seed 
Strategy (NSS) to support ecosystem restoration by addressing the 
increasing demand for native seed that outpaces the supply. The NSS 
provides a framework for coordination across Federal agencies and other 
partners and cooperators to build an adequate supply of native seeds. 
The 2025 budget includes $27.2 million, $4.3 million above the 2024 CR 
level, across BLM, FWS, and BIA to implement the NSS as part of 
Interior's core operations. This investment is consistent with 
congressional direction to ``supply native plant materials for 
emergency stabilization and longer-term rehabilitation'' and will 
strengthen broader restoration efforts by helping to reduce suppliers' 
uncertainty of demand for seed, increase the availability of stock 
seeds, and increase knowledge sharing.
     creating jobs and meeting energy and environmental challenges
    Interior's programs create jobs and spur economic growth in a 
variety of areas-energy and minerals, recreation and tourism, 
irrigation and other water-related activities, grants and payments, and 
infrastructure investment. Enactment of the Great American Outdoors 
Act, the BIL, and the IRA have and will continue to significantly 
expand Interior's contributions to America's economic and job growth. A 
DOI analysis completed in 2023 found that investments from three BIL-
funded programs alone-Abandoned Mine Lands; Orphaned Well Plugging, 
Remediation, and Reclamation; and Water Resources-support on average 
17,669 jobs and generate $2.0 billion for the U.S. economy each year. 
The 2025 budget maintains a consistent strategy to emphasize 
investments that create jobs and better position the country to be more 
competitive worldwide.
                developing a robust clean energy economy
    The 2025 budget continues to advance the Administration's clean 
energy goals. Interior has made significant progress to stand up clean 
energy projects on public lands and establish a strong offshore wind 
energy program, which will create good-paying union jobs and help the 
transition to a decarbonized economy.
    At the start of 2024, two U.S. offshore wind energy sites announced 
the first delivery of electricity to the grid from projects off New 
England and Montauk, NY. This event came on the heels of Interior's 
announcement at the end of 2023 that the Nation's sixth commercial 
offshore wind energy project had been approved and a new offshore wind 
lease sale was proposed in the Central Atlantic. Four offshore wind-
lease auctions have taken place during this Administration, which have 
brought in almost $5.5 billion in high bids. BOEM has also advanced the 
process to explore additional opportunities for offshore wind energy 
development, including in the Gulf of Maine and Gulf of Mexico and 
offshore the U.S. Central Atlantic and Oregon coasts. Also this year, 
the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (BSEE) stood up a 
regulatory and enforcement program for this new offshore industry. BSEE 
is also preparing a regulatory update to ensure safe development and 
operation of offshore wind facilities.
    In 2023, the Bureau of Land Management approved 10 wind, solar, and 
geothermal projects that, when built, will power millions of homes 
across the West. The Administration also made significant progress 
clearing the way for key transmission lines crossing federally managed 
lands and celebrated the groundbreakings of the TransWest Express 
Transmission Project (Wyoming), the Ten West Link (Arizona and 
California), and the SunZia Transmission Project (New Mexico, Arizona, 
and California).
    BLM is processing more than three dozen utility-scale onshore clean 
energy projects proposed on public lands-including solar, wind, and 
geothermal projects-and the interconnected generation tie lines vital 
for connecting clean energy projects on non-Federal land to 
transmission lines. These projects have the combined potential to add 
more than 22 gigawatts of renewable energy to the Western electric 
grid.
    Overall, the budget includes $189.3 million, $35.3 million above 
the 2024 CR level, to continue the Administration's progress in 
deploying clean energy, spurring economic development, and creating 
thousands of good-paying jobs. Funding supports the leasing, planning, 
and permitting of solar, wind, and geothermal energy projects and 
associated transmission infrastructure that will help mitigate the 
impacts of climate change and support the Administration's goal of 
deploying 30 gigawatts of offshore wind capacity by 2030 and 25 
gigawatts of clean energy capacity on public lands by 2025.
    The 2025 budget includes $53.1 million for BLM's onshore renewable 
energy program, $12.1 million above the 2024 CR level. The request will 
help build staffing capacity at BLM's Renewable Energy Coordination 
Offices and accelerate planning and permitting to accommodate increased 
demand and workload. BLM also plans to undertake market and technology 
trend analysis; enhance engagement with States, counties, and Tribes; 
and work to adopt a regional approach to permitting and environmental 
reviews.
    The 2025 budget includes $52.0 million for BOEM's Renewable Energy 
program, a $9.2 million increase above the 2024 CR level. This request 
includes funding to continue to support permitting for projects 
proposed on existing leases and activities associated with Interior's 
current Offshore Wind Leasing Path Forward 2021-2025. The budget 
includes $21.7 million within BOEM's Environmental Programs for studies 
that inform clean energy decisions, an increase of $1.7 million, which 
includes additional funding for environmental reviews associated with 
offshore renewable energy projects.
    The budget for BSEE includes $12.6 million to continue work in 
support of offshore renewable energy deployment. BSEE anticipates 
receiving more than 40,000 wind engineering, construction, and other 
technical reports for review through the end of FY 2025. The bureau is 
working closely with BOEM to implement the framework needed to ensure 
offshore renewable energy projects are constructed and operated safely 
and responsibly.
                          conventional energy
    The budget for BOEM provides $67.5 million for conventional energy 
programs, approximately $6.0 million above the 2024 CR level, to 
support Outer Continental Shelf planning, leasing, and oversight. This 
work includes inventorying oil and gas reserves, overseeing ongoing 
activities, ensuring adequate financial assurances for decommissioning 
liability and risk management, implementing the 2024-2029 National OCS 
Oil and Gas Leasing Program, reviewing and administering oil and gas 
exploration and development plans and geological and geophysical 
permits, and conducting economic analyses, environmental studies, and 
resource evaluation.
    Decisions pertaining to conventional energy activities also receive 
support from the Environmental Programs funding.
    The 2025 budget for BSEE includes $213.0 million that supports 
conventional energy program work. This funding supports OCS permit 
application reviews, regulation and standard development for offshore 
activities, verification and enforcement of operator compliance with 
all applicable environmental laws and regulations, technical reviews of 
planned operations and emerging technologies to properly identify and 
mitigate risks, an annual inspection program that includes risk-based 
inspections, and incident investigations. Within this funding, BSEE 
will continue to strengthen its technical workforce to keep pace with 
an evolving industry with increasingly complex deepwater operations. 
BSEE's budget also includes $12.0 million to fund the decommissioning 
of orphaned offshore oil and gas infrastructure. This funding, along 
with funding from other sources, will be used to address the most 
immediate and urgent well, pipeline, and platform decommissioning needs 
to help reduce the risk of pollution.
    Included in the 2025 budget is $115.8 million for BLM's Oil and Gas 
Management program, an increase of $3.0 million from the 2024 CR level. 
The BLM budget also includes $51.0 million for Oil and Gas Inspection 
Activities and proposes to offset the cost of this program through 
onshore inspection fees.
    The 2025 budget continues to support onshore and offshore carbon 
sequestration activities. The BIL provides authority to the Secretary 
of the Interior to grant a lease, easement, or right-of-way on the 
Outer Continental Shelf for activities that ``provide for, support, or 
are directly related to the injection of a carbon dioxide stream into 
sub-seabed geologic formations for the purpose of long-term carbon 
sequestration.'' Carbon sequestration permanently stores carbon dioxide 
(CO2) in secure subsurface geologic reservoirs to reduce the amount of 
CO2 in the atmosphere and mitigate its impact on global climate change. 
BOEM and BSEE are working to develop and publish draft offshore carbon 
sequestration regulations for public comment. The proposed rule will 
address aspects of carbon sequestration on the OCS, including the 
transportation and geologic sequestration of CO2, leasing of OCS areas 
for that purpose, storage site characterization (i.e., delineation of 
potential storage reservoirs), environmental plans and mitigation 
measures, facility and infrastructure design and installation, 
injection operations, monitoring, incident response, financial 
assurance, and safety, among other issues.
    While the rule is under development, BOEM and BSEE will continue to 
develop their carbon sequestration programs to facilitate program 
implementation upon final rule publication. The 2025 BOEM budget 
includes $1.0 million to establish a dedicated carbon sequestration 
team and fund environmental studies, scientific research, data 
collection, and other activities critical to implement the new program. 
The 2025 BSEE budget includes $1.5 million to prepare to regulate and 
oversee safe and effective offshore carbon sequestration activities.
                            reclamation jobs
    The 2025 budget continues to provide annual ongoing support for 
related reclamation activities targeting State and Tribal reclamation 
needs associated with abandoned hardrock mines, legacy pollution on 
Interior's lands, and innovative coal mine reclamation projects 
directly supporting local economic growth. The Administration is 
committed to remediating the physical and environmental hazards to 
repair those lands, improve air and water quality, and, at the same 
time, create jobs in rural communities. The budget includes $7.0 
million, $2.0 million above the 2024 CR level, for the Abandoned 
Hardrock Mine Reclamation Program to support State, Tribal, and Federal 
efforts to inventory and address legacy sites on their lands. Abandoned 
hardrock mine sites often pose significant health and safety risks to 
surrounding areas and are found across the country. Many States, 
Tribes, and Federal land programs do not have good inventories or 
strong programs to manage those sites. This program targets the need to 
build capacity and begin to address this long-standing problem.
    On Interior lands, the Department has identified thousands of mines 
and features that pose safety risks and generate environmental 
contaminants. USGS, in partnership with BLM, has developed the first 
national database of current and historical mine features. Tens of 
thousands of legacy pollution sites are on BLM lands alone, including 
roughly 56,600 abandoned hardrock mine sites, many of which pose 
serious threats to the public and the environment. Rural and Tribal 
communities proximate to historic mining sites feel the physical and 
environmental impacts of those sites most keenly, but the growing 
popularity of BLM lands for recreation has placed even more people in 
harm's way. The budget includes $58.4 million for BLM's Abandoned Mine 
Lands and Hazardous Materials Management program, $1.3 million above 
the 2024 CR level, which will work in tandem with national Abandoned 
Hardrock Mine Reclamation Program efforts to inventory and remediate 
those sites more broadly on State, private, Tribal, and other Federal 
agency lands.
    The Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) 
works with States and Tribes to regulate active coal mines to ensure 
environmental problems do not occur and remediate abandoned coal mines 
to address health and safety hazards. High-priority abandoned coal mine 
problems can include clogged streams, acid mine drainage, dangerous 
highwalls, waste piles or embankments, subsidence, underground mine 
fires, and polluted water-all of which can pose immediate threats to 
the public health and safety of communities. OSMRE manages the State 
and Tribal abandoned mine reclamation grant programs authorized by the 
Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act and the BIL. In 2023, OSMRE 
invested nearly $1 billion in coal communities, including $724.8 
million made available to 22 States and the Navajo Nation for 
reclamation as part of the BIL and $126.5 million available through the 
traditional, fee-funded, mandatory Abandoned Mine Land (AML) grant 
program.
    OSMRE also manages the Abandoned Mine Land Economic Revitalization 
(AMLER) program, which administers grants to six States and three 
Tribal Nations to return legacy coal mining sites to productive uses 
and foster economic and community development. Since 2016, the AMLER 
program has provided more than $900 million to America's current and 
former coal communities to deliver economic and community development 
and achieve reclamation of historic abandoned mine sites. The 2025 
budget includes $135.0 million to continue support for AMLER.
    In 2025, the OSMRE budget includes $2.5 million to provide grants 
to nongovernmental organizations and local and State government 
agencies to help construct, operate, maintain, and rehabilitate 
abandoned mine land passive-treatment systems that were previously 
constructed to address water pollution from mine drainage. This funding 
helps local communities protect the investments made in passive-
treatment systems installed to address water pollution discharges from 
abandoned mine lands.
 promoting equity, diversity, and inclusion of underserved communities
    Interior is taking steps across the Department to expand equity, 
diversity, and inclusion beyond day-to-day management policies to 
incorporate this concept into the delivery of DOI's missions. This 
commitment is consistent with the Administration's all-of-government 
approach to advance equity, civil rights, racial justice, and equal 
opportunity. Interior's 2025 budget request supports the actions needed 
to recognize and redress inequities and to proactively advance 
diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility within the Department's 
workforce and program implementation. The Department seeks to ensure 
that everyone-no matter their background or ZIP Code-can enjoy the 
benefits of Interior's mission programs.
    The Department of the Interior is committed to maintaining a 
diverse workforce that reflects the public we serve and sustaining an 
equitable and inclusive workplace environment. In 2022, the Department 
published its first Equity Action Plan, which was then updated in 2024. 
It outlines efforts to advance equity through all DOI operations, 
remove barriers to equal opportunity, and deliver resources and 
benefits equitably to the public.
               ongoing commitment to diversity and equity
    In support of the Equity Action Plan, the 2025 budget includes 
program increases of $2.8 million for the Office of Diversity, 
Inclusion, and Civil Rights; Office of Human Capital; and Office of 
Collaborative Alternative Dispute Resolution to strengthen Equal 
Employment Opportunity compliance and advance antidiscrimination 
protections provided to DOI employees and job applicants.
          increasing representation and tribal co-stewardship
    Reflecting the Administration's commitment to accessibility and 
inclusion, the budget includes targeted investments to increase 
representation in the delivery of Interior's core missions. An example 
is $3.1 million requested in the NPS budget to support recent or 
potential new designations that preserve important places and tell the 
stories of those historically underrepresented. Through the Outdoor 
Recreation Legacy Partnership Program, NPS recently designated three 
new local parks in urban areas to increase residents' opportunities to 
connect with the outdoors. The designations include a park in 
Anchorage, AK, in an area with a high concentration of low-income 
youth; an aging park in Moorhead, MN, in a community with a high 
poverty rate; and Roosevelt Park in Buffalo, NY, to address a severely 
deteriorated multiuse athletics field built in the 1950s in a community 
with a high poverty rate.
    The responsibility for meeting Tribal trust responsibilities and 
promoting Tribal sovereignty stretches across Interior. The 2025 budget 
includes targeted increases to expand Tribal co-stewardship across the 
Department. The NPS budget includes a $3.0 million increase to directly 
support Tribal participation in management of Federal lands and waters 
with cultural and natural resources of significance and value to Indian 
Tribes and their citizens, including sacred religious sites, burial 
sites, wildlife, and sources of Indigenous foods and medicines.
    The budget for FWS includes increases totaling $5.5 million to 
advance co-stewardship and engagement with Tribes on Indigenous 
knowledge research, conservation planning, and marine mammal 
management. Implicit in the Marine Mammal Protection Act is the 
realization that cooperative management of subsistence harvests between 
FWS and Alaska Native organizations is more likely to achieve the goals 
of the act than management by a Federal agency alone. The budget 
provides strong support to continue to build these relationships with 
partners such as the Eskimo Walrus Commission and the Alaska Nannut Co-
management Council, which is the FWS co-management partner for polar 
bears.
    The NPS 2025 budget proposes $2.5 million in dedicated funding for 
Tribal Heritage Grants within the Historic Preservation Fund to support 
Indian Tribes, Alaska Native villages and corporations, and Native 
Hawaiian Organizations for the preservation and protection of their 
cultural heritage in addition to other important ongoing Tribal 
programs.
    The Bureau of Reclamation budget includes $29.5 million for its 
Native American Affairs Program, $9.5 million above the 2024 CR level. 
The program supports a variety of Reclamation activities with Tribes, 
including technical assistance, drought assistance, the Secretary's 
Indian Water Rights Settlements Program, and outreach.
                        building agency capacity
    Interior is strengthening the Department's delivery of core 
programs and services for the American people. Efforts related to 
improving Interior's workforce and operations and better leveraging 
technology and information are underway across the Department.
                interior's workforce and infrastructure
    Interior is building its capacity for next generation hiring 
through promotion and expansion of existing and emerging hiring 
authorities, working closely with the Office of Personnel Management 
and the Office of Management and Budget. Recently, the Department 
received approval for use of term appointments excepted beyond general 
time limits for work in support of the Great American Outdoors Act and 
direct-hire authority for permitting positions. The Department 
continues to use direct-hire authority for wildland firefighting, 
information technology, and STEM positions. Interior also recently 
increased the hiring of former Public Lands Corps participants, 
Resource Assistant interns, Knauss Fellows, and military spouses.
    These programs-when combined with Schedule A hiring for persons 
with disabilities, Pathways internships, hiring of recent graduates, 
and the Presidential Management Fellowship (PMF) program-will greatly 
affect the Department's ability to acquire the talent needed to achieve 
its mission for the next several decades.
    The budget includes $206.0 million to fully support anticipated 
fixed-cost increases in 2025, assuming a 2.0-percent increase in 
Federal salaries in FY 2025. The budget also includes $412.2 million in 
program baseline capacity funding to reflect increased 2024 fixed-cost 
requirements over the 2-year budget comparison. Without full funding 
for these costs, Interior bureaus and offices will absorb these must-
pay costs by cutting funding for program work or staffing.
    Another key operational priority for Interior is infrastructure. 
Interior manages a real property portfolio valued at more than $400 
billion, consisting of more than 130,000 buildings and structures, 
65,000 miles of public roads, and a wide variety of other constructed 
assets. Those facilities serve millions of visitors each year, provide 
schooling for tens of thousands of Native American children, and are 
places of work for more than 68,000 DOI employees. Many of Interior's 
infrastructure assets are priceless for their historical significance. 
As the steward of those assets, DOI is committed to sustaining and 
making the lifecycle investments in facilities that are critical to its 
mission.
    The Department continues its evolution toward a lifecycle 
investment approach to help slow the growth of the maintenance backlog 
and sustain assets in the long term. This approach includes focusing 
efforts on preventive and recurring maintenance and selectively 
targeting assets for modernization and renewal investments, which will 
enable bureaus to move away from practices that result in an 
unmanageable backlog. The 2025 budget includes more than $2.7 billion 
for lifecycle management of real property.
    The Department continues to support the Administration's goals to 
transition the Federal motor vehicle fleet to clean and zero-emission 
vehicles. The 2025 budget includes $13.0 million across bureaus to 
support the Department's transition of light-duty fleet acquisitions to 
ZEVs. This funding will be used to conduct fleet planning (including 
ZEV integration), electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE) site 
evaluations, and EVSE installation The funding will also support 
Interior's efforts to right-size its fleet to ensure the Department has 
efficient, mission-capable vehicles at the right locations and with the 
right vehicle mix to deliver Interior's missions. Fleet planning will 
ensure ZEVs are integrated into the overall fleet plan, prioritizing 
locations and appropriate missions for deployment of those vehicles.
           investing in technology and information management
    The 2025 budget includes $57.8 million, $3.5 million above the 2024 
CR level, for the operation and maintenance of the Financial and 
Business Management System (FBMS), which supports the Department's core 
financial and business management requirements. The request provides 
for the ongoing operations and maintenance of the Department's 
integrated FBMS system of record, mandatory technology upgrades, 
improved end-user training, and implementation of zero trust 
architecture to strengthen FBMS' IT security. Modernizing Interior's 
core business system helps to ensure a strong administrative backbone 
and is critical to the continued execution of Interior's mission 
activities.
    Cybersecurity remains a top priority for the Department. Malicious 
actors continue to present risks to Federal systems and the Nation's 
critical infrastructure. Interior continues to work to support a 
consistent level of assurance and risk reduction for the Department at 
the enterprise level. This effort will provide a solid foundation for 
an operationally focused enterprise cybersecurity architecture that is 
resilient and scalable and will allow the Department to respond rapidly 
to sophisticated and advanced threats.
    The 2025 budget includes $67.8 million for Departmentwide 
cybersecurity, $23.5 million above the 2024 CR level. This investment 
funds high-priority recurring operations and maintenance costs for 
incident remediation, provides resources to fight emerging threats, and 
supports the development of an enterprise cybersecurity architecture. 
The increase in the 2025 budget enables foundational enterprise 
capability to implement zero trust principles, which require all 
devices and users-regardless of whether they are inside or outside an 
organization's network-to be authenticated, authorized, and regularly 
validated before being granted access. Within the increase is $5.0 
million to implement a secure access service edge (SASE) solution to 
secure access points to meet the required zero trust security and 
performance standards.
                               conclusion
    The 2025 President's Budget for Interior invests in programs which 
will strengthen our country for all Americans, protect our environment, 
and ensure future generations continue to not only enjoy, but improve 
their way of life.
    I look forward to doing this work together. Thank you again for 
having me, and I am pleased to answer any questions you may have.

                  NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SEASONAL HIRES

    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Madame Secretary. I 
am very pleased with the fiscal year 2024 budget that Senator 
Murkowski and I worked so hard on, but there were some very 
painful pieces of that, and one of them is related to the 
National Park Service, and the budget forces them to scale back 
on summer seasonal hiring. And of course that is when Americans 
pour out of their homes and love getting to our national parks. 
What kind of impact are we going to see at the parks this 
summer?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, thank you so much for the 
question. And of course, yes, we all know that visitation has 
increased immensely in our national parks. In 2024, park 
operations funding did not receive roughly $102 million that 
was needed to cover salary and benefit increases, and other 
fixed costs, in addition to taking a cut of $10 million below 
the prior year.
    Staffing costs account for the majority of park operating 
expenses and this loss of spending capacity will substantially 
impact the park seasonal employee levels. So yes, fewer rangers 
will mean that we may need to curtail visitor services, there 
are a lot of things that happen with that, maintenance 
activities such as, restroom cleaning, and campground cleanup, 
and things of that nature, visitor operating hours could also 
be cut, and newly established parks and programs did not 
receive requested funding increases, and those will be impacted 
as well.
    Senator Merkley. Will your budget prepare for the 
possibility of addressing this for fiscal year 2025?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.

            REAUTHORIZATION OF GAOA LEGACY RESTORATION FUND

    Senator Merkley. I want to turn to the extension of GAOA. 
GAOA was an investment per year, about 1.9 billion per year for 
5 years. The fiscal year 2025 budget doesn't include a proposal 
to extend GAOA. Will you and your administration aggressively 
push for an extension as we move further into 2024?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, as I mentioned in my remarks, 
we cannot address the major maintenance needs of our asset 
portfolio through annual appropriations alone, the amounts are 
too high. I supported GAOA when I was in Congress myself. I 
think it is a wonderful bipartisan effort, and so of course we 
would support that and hope that it can be reauthorized.
    Senator Merkley. When I think about this, I think about the 
Chateau at Oregon Caves. A hunter's dog chased a bear into the 
cave, and it was thereby discovered. He almost got lost and 
couldn't find his way out, but was fortunate to have a few 
matches on him, and eventually the matches ran out, but he 
followed the trickle of water and escaped, and thus was this 
very rare geological feature found in Oregon, which doesn't 
really have anything like this type of marble cave elsewhere.
    But the Chateau has been closed for years, and years, and 
years. It is a national monument, is a national historic 
landmark, and it is an example of the type of work that needs 
to be done. And so I hope we will continue to push to restore 
and save the investments. The last generation made in so many 
important pieces of infrastructure.

                    RENEWABLE ENERGY ON TRIBAL LANDS

    I want to turn to renewable energy development on tribal 
lands. The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Inflation 
Reduction Act created incentives to do large-scale renewable 
energy across Indian Country: tax incentives, loans, some 
subsidies. But here are a couple examples: The Warm Springs 
Tribe in Oregon has a lot of sunshine but has to build the 
infrastructure to connect to be able to get that potential 
renewable energy to market. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe of 
North and South Dakota is struggling to get a wind project off 
the ground with similar difficulties.
    It takes capital up front. This isn't just a Department of 
Interior challenge, so we need interagency cooperation with the 
Department of Energy and with FERC. But it is like a vision, 
but a valley that has to be crossed to get to that vision. You 
are co-Chair of the White House Council on Native American 
Affairs. What tools is the administration utilizing across the 
Federal Government to try to solve this problem and enable 
tribes to be part of the climate solution, and part of the 
renewable energy economy, including good paying jobs for tribal 
members?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Senator. As you know, the 
President restarted the White House Council on Native American 
Affairs, because he feels very confident that an all-of-
government approach to tribal issues is the best path forward. 
For our part, Interior offers loan guarantees and technical 
assistance to Tribes for renewable energy activities, but they 
are on a much smaller scale than the Department of Energy's 
programs.
    We are working to help improve opportunities for 
development. The BIA took action to improve and streamline 
applications for processing rights of way and business leases, 
including those needed for renewable energy projects. We will 
continue to work across the government to make sure Tribes have 
what they need to develop on their lands, and I am happy to 
work with you and the Tribes in your state to help. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Madam Secretary. The Chairman 
just informed me that he is going to have to excuse himself for 
a few minutes.

                              AMBLER ROAD

    So let me start with Ambler. You know the project very 
well. This is a proposed private haul road to a mining district 
that has great copper and numerous critical mineral potential. 
I think pretty key to the administration's push for the 
minerals that are needed for clean energy. And as I mentioned 
in my opening, ANILCA created the Gates of the Arctic National 
Park and Preserve, it is about 8.4 million acres. The same 
sections of the same law provide for service transportation 
access to the Ambler District.
    So I have got behind me a copy, or a quote from section 
2014, and it says in the highlighted area, ``Congress finds 
that there is a need for access for surface transportation 
purposes across the Western Kobuk River unit of the Gates of 
the Arctic National Preserve, from the Ambler Mining District 
to the Alaska Pipeline Haul Road, and the Secretary shall 
permit such access in accordance with the provisions of this 
subsection.''
    I think the text of the law is very clear. But what is 
equally clear is that this was a balance here, Congress created 
Gates of the Arctic and then guaranteed access to Ambler, ``The 
Secretary shall permit access''. So the concern, the problem 
that we have is when the administration announced that it will 
be choosing the no action alternative, it effectively denies 
this project to proceed, which is directly contrary to the 
Federal law that is stated pretty clearly, and in contrary to, 
again, this very careful balance that ANILCA struck between 
development and conservation.
    I look at this, and as a lawyer that hasn't practiced in a 
long time, I can read the plain meaning of the law, do you not 
see that the action that the administration has moved forward 
with, as a no action alternative, is contrary to the clear 
stated intention of this section of ANILCA?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, as you know, the Department has 
not yet made a final decision regarding either of the rights of 
away for Ambler Road. The proposed 211 mile route, it crosses 
different lands, approximately 25 miles of BLM-managed lands 
and 26 miles of NPS-managed lands. ANILCA does not address 
Ambler road crossing BLM managed lands. Those are all things 
that we needed to take into consideration. The BLM's 
discretionary authority to issue a right of way over BLM-
managed lands is found in FLPMA.
    We don't feel that we are ignoring the law. We are in fact 
doing exactly what the law has directed, and of course, we are 
happy to follow up with you, for the record, on specific legal 
citations.
    Senator Murkowski. I think we need, do need to have an 
understanding here, because if I am interpreting what you have 
just said, you are effectively saying that Congress protected 
the wrong lands, that that was Parklands instead of BLM lands, 
and you are ignoring the plain text again of the law which 
says, ``From the Ambler Mining District to the Alaska Pipeline 
Haul Road.'' I don't think, I don't think that that language 
could be any clearer.
    So the other thing that I heard you say here, though, is 
that this is not the final, the final is coming. I understand 
that, but are you suggesting here that we might see something 
different than the ``no action'' alternative coming out of the 
administration?
    Secretary Haaland. I am not saying anything. I essentially 
don't have any news to share today with respect to that, but we 
are more than happy to stay in touch with your office, and try 
to answer any other specific questions.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, let me ask it another way. How is 
this not a Federal taking? How is this not a Federal taking of 
lands that the State of Alaska owns, because nobody is 
disputing that they own the lands in the Ambler District, but 
if the administration proceeds with this, they are unable to 
access it despite the guarantees in Federal Law, how is that 
not a taking?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, I apologize, it sounds like a 
specific legal question, one that our solicitor would be happy 
to discuss with you, and in fact, I know that you have spoken 
with Bob Anderson on many occasions, and I am happy to have his 
office follow up.
    Senator Murkowski. And what I would like is a formal legal 
analysis from Interior on how this no action decision complies 
with ANILCA. I want to know. If you believe that the no action 
actually is within the law. I would like to see that before a 
Record of Decision is announced.
    [The information follows:]
                       ambler road legal analysis
    The Record of Decision, which follows, was finalized in June 2024 
includes a detailed legal analysis of issues concerning the Ambler Road 
Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement on pages 21-25.

    https://eplanning.blm.gov/public--projects/57323/200091317/
20118938/251018918/Ambler%20Road%20BLM%20ROD--508.pdf

    We will now turn to Senator Reed.
    Oh. I am sorry. Go ahead, Senator Peters.

                INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY TO PUBLIC LANDS

    Senator Peters. Thank you. Secretary Haaland, good to see 
you here today, as always. As you know, Secretary, our public 
lands are some of the Nation's most treasured resources, 
providing significant benefits to Americans, to our economy, 
and to the environment. And in Michigan, in particular, we are 
home to some spectacular geologic and ecological environments 
like the Pictured Rocks, the National Lakeshore, the Detroit 
River International Wildlife Refuge, and one of my all-time 
favorites, Isle Royale National Park, which is amazing.
    But at the Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore, thanks 
to a nonprofit partnership, visitors are able to reserve 
adaptive recreation equipment and explore new areas of the 
Lakeshore on additional designated trails. However, 
opportunities like this, unfortunately, are scattered across 
DOI public lands, not all of them, unfortunately, and accurate 
information about trails is needed to identify where different 
adaptive recreation equipment can be enjoyed for visitors to 
make informed decisions about where they will go.
    So my question for you, Madam Secretary, is can you speak 
to the importance of expanding these adaptive recreation 
equipment programs all across the Department of Interior?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you for the question, Senator. We 
went to your state and we went to the sand dunes. I had a 
broken leg at the time with a big boot on, and they offered me 
this sand buggy.
    Senator Peters. Right.
    Secretary Haaland. I declined, however, I know that those 
are available to people with accessibility issues, so I was 
grateful to be offered, and of course, I strongly support 
increased public accessibility for Americans to enjoy their 
public lands. My mother rest her soul, used a wheelchair in the 
later part of her years, and taking her to some of the parks 
where there were opportunities to wheel her around was 
important to us.
    We continue to identify and propose investments and 
opportunities to improve public accessibility as part of the 
budget process. We are happy to stay in touch with your office 
on this, and of course, please know that we are always working 
on that from our end.
    Senator Peters. Well, I would hope you would consider 
prioritizing funding opportunities, is that something you are 
open to and we can work together on?
    Secretary Haaland. Absolutely.

                       TRIBAL HATCHERY OPERATIONS

    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you. The DOI Fish Hatchery 
Operations Program provides funding to fish-producing tribes in 
support of associated hatching, rearing, and stocking programs. 
This, excuse me, this type of fish production helps achieve 
mandated fish recovery efforts throughout the Great Lakes 
states, and as well as across the country. And the benefits of 
tribal hatchery production is far-reaching, as I know you know, 
including boosting commercial and recreational fishing, but 
also tourism, as well as ecosystem benefits.
    My question for you, Madam Secretary, is can you speak to 
the importance of fully funding this program and how it is used 
to assist tribal subsistence efforts and the development of 
reservation economies?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much for the question. I 
can tell you that in 2023, EPA provided Interior with $368 
million for the important Great Lakes Restoration Initiative. 
As of January 2023, the Bureau of Indian Affairs had provided 
over $113 million through the Initiative to Great Lakes Tribes 
so that they could implement roughly 800 tribally Led 
restoration projects in capacity awards. That is ongoing. Happy 
to keep you and your staff informed of how that is moving 
forward.
    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate your work on the Great 
Lakes and your focus, and great that you were up there visiting 
and seeing firsthand, the joys of it.

                    NATIONAL PARK SERVICE EMPLOYEES

    Secretary, last year we discussed an issue that I am 
particularly interested in addressing, the disparities and high 
cost of Living for employees throughout the national park 
system. Specifically, we discussed the importance of taking a 
closer look at how pay is decided, and how that would bring a 
more detailed understanding of pay needs, and perhaps better 
match pay rates to the areas where the parks are actually 
located, which tend to have a very high cost of living because 
they are near wonderful places where people want to live, and 
bid the price up.
    Last year, you agreed that taking a closer look at how pay 
is decided would bring a more detailed understanding of pay 
needs, and you committed to taking a closer look at this. Can 
you provide me with an update on your work on examining this 
issue, please?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, thank you for the question. Of 
course, that is definitely a priority for us, the budget 
proposes over $100 million from different funding sources to 
improve employee housing and parks, and we also--because if you 
can get some of the cost down, of course, that also helps 
employees to have an opportunity to live. We were grateful to 
have a $40 million anonymous contribution toward National Park 
employee housing in Yellowstone. So that is still a priority 
for us. I don't have anything specifically to report on pay 
currently, but we are happy to keep you updated current, 
shortly after this hearing. But just know that we are working 
hard to ensure that we can get those costs down, and housing is 
one of those areas, one of the big-ticket items.
    Senator Peters. Good. Well, I look forward to keep working 
with you. It is a critical issue for folks who just can't find 
affordable housing near the parks.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes, indeed.
    Senator Peters. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator 
Fischer.

                    AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL INITIATIVE

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Murkowski.
    Welcome, Secretary, nice to see you again. Last year I 
discussed with you that Nebraska is a private property state, 
97 percent of Nebraska's land is privately owned. I continue to 
hear great concern about the administration's America the 
Beautiful Initiative or the 30x30 Proposal. As a reminder, 70 
counties in my State of Nebraska have issued resolutions of 
disapproval about the 30x30 Initiative. Nebraskans remain 
concerned that this effort is an attempt at a land grab, and a 
failure of the administration to recognize that private land 
owners often are much better at managing land than the Federal 
Government. I would like to start by following up on a question 
that I asked last year; in regards to the 30x30 Initiative, how 
exactly are you defining conservation?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much, Senator. With 
respect to the America the Beautiful Initiative, as you know, 
it is a voluntary, locally led, partnership driven, 
conservation and restoration effort across the country. With 
respect to the definition of conserved land, we continue to 
work toward a flexible, inclusive definition given the many 
types of conservation that exist on Federal, state, and private 
land.
    I think one of the operative words is ``voluntary''. Folks 
can volunteer to include their lands in conservation or the 
definition of conservation, or they don't have to.
    Senator Fischer. How do you reconcile stating that this is 
being a locally led, voluntary effort, yet in 2023 America the 
Beautiful Initiative, you cite five New National Monument 
designations, restoration of protections to various Federal 
lands, and several mineral withdrawals as key progress? How is 
that key progress when I don't believe that those actions sound 
at all like they are locally led, or voluntary efforts?
    Secretary Haaland. In fact, many of those are, Senator, we 
could take----
    Senator Fischer. Can you give me an example?
    Secretary Haaland. Sure. The Avi Kwa Ame National Monument. 
That was, a conservation effort that was worked on by the 
Tribes of Nevada for almost decades, and it is their ancestral 
homeland. When tribes come to us and ask us to help them to 
conserve a certain portion of land that they care deeply about, 
we listen. It is a transparent process. We open up a public 
comment period. There are a lot of people that get to weigh in 
on that issue.
    Senator Fischer. Does the land remain under the control of 
the tribe? Or is it put into a National Monument designation? 
You know, I can see the Federal Government trying to work with 
land owners on different conservation practices. I probably 
define that different than you, but when the tribe, you said, 
has worked for decades on this, do they still then maintain 
control? And does it fit into the bucket that the 
administration is trying to have for the 30x30?
    Secretary Haaland. So staying with the example of Avi Kwa 
Ame that I gave you, it is BLM managed land, however, we also 
enter into co-stewardship agreements with tribes.

             AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL AND THE 30X30 INITIATIVE

    Senator Fischer. So does that fit in the 30x30? Is that 
part of the program since it has been happening for decades?
    Secretary Haaland. So the 30x30 is an initiative. It is not 
a specific program. It is an initiative of the administration. 
And so it is not a specific program with a line item in our 
budget, but we work toward conserving land under that umbrella. 
But yes, we would count that land if we were counting land, 
sure, that would be under a conservation effort, and the tribes 
would have a say in it.

                           CRITICAL MINERALS

    Senator Fischer. If I could move on just quickly here, in 
your budget, you request $13 million for acquisition of zero 
emission vehicles, and electric vehicles we know are costlier. 
They have a host of issues, including increasing our nation's 
reliance on foreign controlled critical minerals.
    Secretary, thinking about the vast number of priorities 
across your Agency, including improving permitting and ESA 
consultations as we discussed, do you really believe this is 
the right time to be prioritizing the purchase of more 
expensive and probably less practical electrical vehicles for 
the Department? And do you find it troublesome that the 
Department has widely fought to restrict the development of 
critical minerals and mining domestically, while also pushing 
for vehicles that are currently heavily dependent on foreign 
supply chains for these? And I would emphasize, in areas of the 
world like Congo where we have children mining cobalt, which 
then we can sit back and say, oh but we don't allow that. But 
yet you want vehicles that are dependent upon it.
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, since President Biden took the 
oath of office in January of 2021, we have approved or moved 
through five critical mineral mine permits, and those mines are 
moving forward now. We started the Interagency Work Group on 
Mining Reform to look at the 150-year-old law. We felt there is 
a lot of new technology. We are trying to streamline some of 
these efforts, and so the report has come out and we are 
working to follow the recommendations of the report that we 
think will help us to move forward in a quicker fashion.
    Additionally, under President Biden's leadership, forty 
mine modification permits have also been approved. The career 
staff at Interior is working hard to move this process through. 
And we also believe very strongly that we need a supply chain 
of critical minerals if we wish to move our country toward 
clean energy.
    Senator Fischer. Do you think it is practical to request 
that 13 million in your budget for those vehicles?
    Senator Murkowski. Senator Fischer asks a great question, 
but the Chairman reminded me we were all going to try to stick 
to our five minutes.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Maybe we can answer this in response to 
another Senator. Senator Reed.
    Senator Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Murkowski, and I 
want to thank you, Madam Secretary, for visiting the Blackstone 
River Valley National Historic Park last summer, and thank you 
for including $9 million in the Great American Outdoors Fund 
for repairs to the historic Slater Mill, which is the 
birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution. It is 
something that is going to make a great deal of difference. So 
many thanks.

             ENERGY PRODUCTION ON FEDERAL LANDS AND WATERS

    I listened very attentively to Senator Murkowski, who is 
someone I have had the privilege of working closely with, and 
she has raised some very serious questions which I think must 
be answered. But it struck me, one of the ironies is that today 
the United States is the world's largest crude oil producer, so 
we are doing a lot when it comes to produce hydrocarbons in new 
drilling, and was in 2023, 2,100 new oil and gas wells on 
public lands, that is a 29 percent increase from 2021, and 
there are 7,300 permits to drill on public native lands that 
have not even been used yet.
    So we are in a very interesting situation. We have 
overtaken Qatar as the largest export of liquefied natural gas. 
And by the way, profits have almost tripled for the 10 biggest 
producers of oil and gas. So we are at a moment where we have 
to make a shift, I believe, to a green energy economy, but at 
the same time, we are not trying to suppress the oil and gas 
industry. In fact, they have never had it so good. And that is 
a very difficult and delegate balance that you and the 
President have to perform. And I wonder if you have any 
comments on that general topic.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much, Senator. And yes, 
you are right, companies have over 7,300 approved drilling 
permits on Federal and Indian lands that they aren't using. 
Onshore, nearly 11 million acres under lease that are not 
producing, roughly half of all Federal lands that are under 
lease. And offshore, nearly 10 million acres are under lease 
that are not producing, and that is over 75 percent of all 
offshore Federal lands that aren't producing.
    Yes, since President Biden has been in office, those 
applications for permits to drill have moved forward through 
our career staff. They are very dedicated to their jobs, and 
yes, it is undeniable that oil production is currently at an 
all-time high on our public lands.
    And yes, thank you also for recognizing the need for us to 
transition to a clean energy future. We believe very strongly 
that will benefit many Americans, and work to lower costs for 
them as well.
    Senator Reed. No. Again I seeing the weather effects 
recently in Rhode Island, I can't speak for the rest of the 
country, and something is changing, I sense, and we have to get 
ahead of that change.
    In 2022 BOEM proposed guidance to the mitigation, to 
commercial and recreational fisheries from offshore wind, again 
this is one of those balancing acts. We need offshore wind, 
Rhode Island was the first state to have an offshore wind 
project, but we also have to consider the effects on fishery, 
on other uses. They proposed to issue the final guidance. It 
has been 2 years now. When do you expect that guidance, Madam 
Secretary?
    Secretary Haaland. I beg your pardon, Senator? The specific 
question was?
    Senator Reed. It was, in 2022, BOEM proposed guidance for 
mitigation to commerci0al and recreational fisheries, issuing 
final guidance, they have not issued that yet, will provide 
clarity for all the stakeholders, when do you expect this final 
guidance to be issued?
    Secretary Haaland. I would love to get back with your 
office with a specific response, if that is possible.
    Senator Reed. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, we can work on that. I don't 
have that in front of me.
    [The information follows:]
      fisheries mitigation guidance for offshore energy production
    The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) is developing guidance 
for the mitigation of potential impacts from offshore wind energy 
projects on commercial and recreational fishing communities. The 
guidance will provide detailed processes that offshore wind lessees can 
follow to avoid, minimize, and mitigate impacts to fisheries in the 
areas of project siting, design, navigation, access, safety, and 
financial compensation.
    In June 2022, BOEM published the draft guidance document and opened 
a 60-day comment period that concluded on August 22, 2022. In total, 88 
comments were received from 79 organizations and 9 individuals. During 
that time BOEM also held four virtual meetings to present the draft 
guidance and answer questions. In April 2023, in response to comments 
from Tribal nations, BOEM directly solicited comments on the draft 
guidance from federally recognized Tribes.
    BOEM's goal is to have the final guidance available by the end of 
this year. It should be noted that all projects approved to date have 
included fisheries mitigation plans. BOEM is ensuring that lessons 
learned from implementation of those plans are incorporated into the 
guidance. BOEM intends to have a public meeting after the final 
guidance is issued to explain the changes made by the Bureau based on 
the comments received.

    Senator Reed. And I yield back to the Chair Lady, of the 
moment.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Senator Reed. Chairman 
Murray.
    Senator Murray. Thank you very much. And thank you 
Secretary Haaland for joining us today to talk about the 
resources that Interior needs to keep up its vital work.
    In my home State of Washington, our incredible forests, and 
mountains, and waters, give our families a great place to go 
outdoors and explore. We attract many visitors and bring in 
dollars from across the world, and it is central to our 
economy. The work we do to take care of them for now and for 
generations to come could not be more important. Everything 
from tackling the climate crisis and wildfires to protecting 
our priceless ecosystems and species, including salmon of 
course, and keeping our word to our tribes, which should 
include ensuring certainty for tribal sovereignty payments by 
moving them to the mandatory side of the ledger, which is 
something Chairman Merkley and I are both very focused on.
    And as we talk about our incredible public lands, I want to 
note that yesterday marks 1 year since the Hurricane Ridge Day 
Lodge at Olympic National Park in my home state of Washington, 
burned down. This was an amazing, iconic structure, and 
ensuring that Hurricane Ridge gets rebuilt remains a top 
priority for me. Our public lands are not just a national 
treasure, they are truly a national necessity, and I want to 
make sure that our fiscal year 2025 bills really reflect that.
    Fiscal year 2024 was a tough year that forced a lot of 
difficult decisions, and the 1 percent increase in funding that 
is now provided for fiscal year 2025 under the caps we are now 
living with is not enough to meet this moment, including for 
Interior. So as members talk about how we might increase 
investments to better meet our defense needs, I will not let us 
ignore our needs here at home as well, either.
    We have to remember that our national strength is directly 
tied to having strong, vibrant and resilient ecosystems, and 
our safety is directly related to our response to threats like 
wildfires, to just give a few examples. As I said before, when 
it comes to considering additional resources, I am going to 
insist on parity for nondefense.
    Secretary Haaland, the fiscal year 2025 budget request 
includes key funding increases to sustain programs. When we do 
not fully fund our programs there are real on the ground 
impacts, like at North Cascades National Park where cuts have 
meant that the park has had to cut back on staffing. Stehekin 
is going to offer fewer services this year, and the Golden West 
Visitor Center is going to remain closed this summer. How is 
your Department managing staffing levels, particularly, by the 
way, in the face of rising housing costs?

                     STAFFING AT THE NATIONAL PARKS

    Secretary Haaland. Senator, thank you so much for the 
question. And yes, I know this is a constant issue across the 
National Park system, specifically with the rise of visitation. 
Unfortunately, parks will not be able to hire as many seasonal 
rangers for the peak visitation season. However, we are working 
hard to ensure that we can move the needle on that forward. 
2024, yes, it was a terrible year. And it remains a priority 
for us given all the facts that you just mentioned to us.
    Senator Murray. Well, I just think we all have to remember 
that the work we do here impacts people's ability to visit our 
amazing places across the country, and that is why I am so 
adamant about funding for that.

                            SALMON RECOVERY

    Salmon are absolutely essential for tribes, the 
environment, and the economy of the Pacific Northwest, and 
salmon recovery is not easy. It requires working at it from 
every angle, like investing in our hatchery infrastructure, 
protecting and restoring our critical habitat, combating 
invasive species like the European green crab, and addressing 
emergent pollutants like 6-PPD.
    Secretary Haaland, talk to us about how your fiscal year 
2025 budget request will help with salmon recovery?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Senator. The 2025 budget 
includes $24 million in appropriated funding to support the 
Columbia River Basin Salmon Recovery efforts in Reclamation and 
in the Fish and Wildlife Service. This includes funding in the 
Bureau of Reclamation for the Columbia and Snake River Salmon 
Recovery Project for studies, habitat restoration, and 
mitigation to address the impacts of reclamation water projects 
on anadromous fish.
    Also, this provides funding to evaluate the potential 
success of reintroducing those fish upstream of the Grand 
Coulee Dam. Funding in the Fish and Wildlife Service Partners 
for Fish and Wildlife, and Coastal programs, and hatchery 
operations will also support Partnership Salmon Recovery and 
Habitat Restoration efforts.

               TRIBAL ENGAGEMENT OF OFFSHORE WIND LEASING

    Senator Murray. Thank you. And finally, the Department of 
Interior plays, as you know, a crucial role in the energy 
transition, an effort I know that you strongly prioritize. That 
includes offshore wind leasing, like last week's proposed 
auction off the Coast of Oregon. I certainly support the 
Department's efforts. I have heard from tribes in my state that 
the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management is not doing enough to 
consult with them before making decisions. These tribes have 
fishing rights for Pacific salmon, with migratory ranges 
extending all the way to Southern California. Can you tell me 
what BOEM is doing to not only consult with the treaty tribes 
but to incorporate their feedback when making offshore wind 
leasing decisions?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you for that question as well, and 
of course, we listen and take tribal concerns very seriously. 
Tribal consultation is one of our top priorities. I know that 
BOEM engages with indigenous communities on all of these 
issues. They have made that a specific part of their leadership 
team, to ensure that there is a specific person that liaises 
with Tribes.
    BOEM also works closely with tribal communities to support 
capacity building and meaningful engagement. We work with any 
of the wind companies that are working in the particular areas 
to create their own relationships with the Tribes. I know that 
there have been, recently, the industry has worked to create 
agreements with Tribes specifically for some of the issues that 
they are concerned about.
    I can just tell you that I have traveled personally to meet 
with Tribes on offshore wind on many occasions, both on the 
East and the West Coasts and we are doing our best to ensure 
they are part of the conversation, and yes, that their concerns 
get incorporated.
    Senator Murray. Okay. Well, we are hearing concerns from 
our tribes about being consulted, so if my staff could follow 
up with yours.
    Secretary Haaland. We will be happy to be in touch with 
them.
    [The information follows:]
                            offshore energy
    BOEM is committed to upholding its Tribal trust responsibilities 
and fostering working relationships with Tribes based on trust and 
meaningful consultation. BOEM engages and invites consultation 
regularly with Tribal Nations, including those in Washington State, at 
all phases of the renewable energy leasing process to incorporate 
Indigenous knowledge and Tribal perspectives. For example:

  --In 2023, BOEM held 6 individual meetings (government-to-government 
        and staff- level, depending on preference of the Tribe) with 
        coastal Washington Tribes to discuss two unsolicited offshore 
        wind lease requests offshore Washington State.

  --Tribal Nations are invited to join Intergovernmental Renewable 
        Energy Task Forces with Federal, State, and local agencies, 
        which help inform the process and timing of offshore renewable 
        energy planning from the very beginning.

  --BOEM sends letters to individual Tribes inviting them to consider 
        becoming cooperating Tribal Nations in BOEM's environmental 
        review processes. This invitation is included in BOEM's notice 
        of intent to conduct an environmental review of offshore wind 
        lease sales.

  --BOEM partners with Tribal Nations on studies and research to inform 
        offshore renewable energy development, including working with 
        interested West Coast Tribal Nations to develop cultural 
        landscape assessments near areas of potential offshore wind 
        energy development.

  --BOEM and NOAA collaborated with the Yurok Tribe of California, 
        Grand Ronde Tribe of Oregon, and Makah Tribe of Washington to 
        develop best practices for consultation through a cultural 
        landscape approach in 2017.

  --Recently, BOEM invited coastal Washington Tribes to participate in 
        the Tribal Cultural Landscapes effort that is currently 
        underway through the Udall Foundation.

  --BOEM is also working through Oregon State University with the 
        Quinault Indian Nation's Tribal Historic Preservation Office to 
        study Ancient Landforms off the Washington Coast: Ancient 
        Landforms off the Washington Coast (boem.gov).

    BOEM is not engaged in any active planning for wind energy 
development offshore Washington at this time. However, coastal 
Washington Tribes have stated interest in wind energy activities 
offshore California and Oregon due to potential effects to migratory 
species and the California Current Ecosystem. Therefore, BOEM regularly 
invites consultation and engagement with coastal Washington Tribes for 
any wind energy activities off the west coast.
    For the five existing California offshore wind leases, BOEM 
informed lessees to include coastal Washington Tribes in their 
engagement efforts and outreach on their Native American Tribes 
Communications Plans. BOEM's decision to remove a portion along the 
bottom of the Brookings Wind Energy Area offshore Oregon from final 
leasing consideration was due, in part, to concerns expressed by 
coastal Washington Tribes through consultation.

    Senator Murray. Okay. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you.
    Senator Murray. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Chair. Senator Van Hollen.

                             CHESAPEAKE BAY

    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you, Senator Murkowski. And 
welcome Madam Secretary. It is great to see you.
    And I want to start by thanking you and your team at the 
National Park Service, especially Director ``Chuck'' Sams, and 
the head of your Chesapeake Bay Office, Wendy O'Sullivan, for 
the technical assistance that they provided to us as we worked 
on establishing a Chesapeake National Recreation Area.
    We have had a long process of public feedback on how to 
highlight the cultural and ecological significance of the 
Chesapeake Bay, and increase of Public Access through the 
creation of a recreation area within the National Park Service. 
We will have a hearing. I am very excited we are going to have 
a hearing on this legislation to create CRNA (ph.) in the 
Energy and National Natural Resources Subcommittee on National 
Parks in just two weeks. And we have had a lot of excitement 
and support from around the state.
    So my question to you is pretty simple and straightforward. 
I just ask for your continued commitment to work with us to get 
this bill passed, and make the Chesapeake Bay Recreation Area a 
reality?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. I appreciate that. Let me 
turn to another program that is very important to protection of 
the Chesapeake Bay and its ecosystem. That is the Chesapeake 
Wild Program. This was a bipartisan initiative at the Fish and 
Wildlife Service launched by Senator Capito and I, a number of 
years ago. We got it passed, the authorizing bill, and 
Congress' provided funds on an ongoing and bipartisan basis.
    It is to protect habitat and water quality around the Bay. 
It has been very successful. Just this last summer, I visited 
Waterloo Farm to see an example of this conservation program at 
work in coordination with the Eastern Shore Land Conservancy. 
The National Aquarium is also building a floating wetland in 
Baltimore Harbor. These are just some examples of the good uses 
to which these funds have been put.
    You described this program, I think, in last year's 
testimony as I quote, ``Wonderful program''. It is not in the 
President's budget. I recognize that that, in addition to the 
Department of Interior, you have got OMB there. So my question 
to you, Madam Secretary is, I will work with this committee to 
do what we have done in the past to provide funding, and I just 
want, you know, your assurance that you continue to be 
supportive of the Subcommittee's efforts with respect to this 
program.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes, of course, we will.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. We will be supportive of, yes.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. And Senator, I could just say that the 
budget does include $38 million for work in the Chesapeake Bay 
through the USGS, the Fish and Wildlife Service, and the 
National Park Service.
    Senator Van Hollen. Yes.
    Secretary Haaland. I know it is not the same thing.
    Senator Van Hollen. No. I appreciate that. Look, the 
funding for the Bay comes through a number of different streams 
and agencies, all of it is important, and I do thank you for 
what you have in here, and for your commitment to work with us 
as we continue to move this important program forward.

              OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY IN THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC

    Turning to offshore wind, the administration, as you know, 
has a critical target of 30 gigawatts of offshore wind capacity 
by the year 2030. As of last month, the Department had approved 
eight offshore wind projects generating an anticipated 10 
gigawatts of clean energy. A simple question again: Are you 
committed to staying on track to hit the 30 gigawatt target in 
the next five-and-a-half years?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.
    Senator Van Hollen. And as you know, and BOEM has come up a 
couple times here, identifying and leasing suitable offshore 
wind areas requires a lot of coordination, and it requires 
coordination among Federal agencies. In my view, we need both 
BOEM, and frankly, also the White House, to play a stronger 
role in coordinating these efforts if we are going to achieve 
the administration's own goals, including Maryland's 
contribution to that. We also have a very ambitious offshore 
wind target, and during the recent process, we had a lot of 
issues with BOEM, and lack of coordination among Federal 
agencies.
    As a result of that, we did get a statement from the Biden 
Administration to Senator Cardin, and myself, and others, where 
the administration says, and I quote, ``The Administration has 
preliminarily identified acreage off of Maryland's offshore 
coast of a similar size and wind energy generation capacity to 
B-1.'' It goes on to pledge, ``Coordination for inclusion in a 
subsequent offshore wind lease sale as early as 2025.''
    Madam Secretary, I just want to confirm that you, and your 
Agency, and the administration are committed to working with us 
to make that commitment a reality?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes, Senator. Yes. This summer BOEM will 
proceed with the proposed lease sale for the Central Atlantic, 
which does include Maryland.
    Senator Van Hollen. Right. Just there is--those are some 
leases in Maryland that are going forward. The area I am 
talking about, which is called B-1, actually is not part of 
that sale. There were issues that arose which is why we got 
this commitment from the administration to work with us to make 
it available for leasing in 2025. And so my question is do we 
have your commitment to continue our work together on that?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes. Yes, we will continue to always 
work together with whoever we need to for our clean energy 
transition. Thank you.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Senator Britt.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Madam Vice Chairwoman.

                            WARRIOR MET COAL

    Thank you for being here today, Madam Secretary, I 
appreciate you testifying in front of this committee. Last 
year, we discussed how good stewardship of public lands 
includes using our resources effectively and sustainably. We 
discuss the pending lease application of Warrior Met Coal, one 
of the many of our Nation's companies who are working hard in 
conjunction with their community and the Federal Government to 
steward the Nation's resources effectively.
    As I noted last year, Warrior Met is an important economic 
driver in the Great State of Alabama. They employ close to a 
thousand people in Alabama and are the largest customer for our 
Port of Mobile. In questioning last year, you noted that the 
Bureau of Land Management has made you aware of the importance 
of this lease to the State of Alabama, and the Department 
committed to working with me to free their application from the 
red tape it was stuck in.
    Sadly, that progress has been slowed over the last year. 
After an initial conversation with my team, the Department 
resorted to what seemed to be slow-walking it, and so most of 
the calls and emails from my office seemed to have entirely 
been misplaced.
    Madam Secretary, I expect and hope that this will not be 
the case in the coming months. As you know, the Department 
completed a draft EA and FONSI for Warrior Met Coal in 2019. 
With no other issues, the Department of Interior should have 
approved the lease application, but in June 2022, the 
Department informed Warrior Met Coal that all coal leases were, 
quote, ``frozen'' due to the Ninth Circuit Court decision, even 
though Met Coal was obviously not targeted by the decision.
    Now, after years of unresponsiveness and unnecessary legal 
hurdles from the Agency, the company has agreed, at the 
Agency's request, to do a full environmental impact statement. 
In the Notice of Intent published in April, the Department 
included a time line of publishing a draft EIS this fall, the 
final EIS next summer, and a Record of Decision in early 2026.
    Madam Secretary, it is my expectation that given the amount 
of work already put into this application, the Agency's 
requests to move through the full EIS, and the familiarity that 
the Department has with Warrior Met Coal, that the Department 
could easily move faster than this time line.
    However, what I would like to have from you today is a 
commitment that to the very best of your ability, that you will 
at least hit the Agency's own published time line.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much for the question, 
Senator. And yes, just to make sure that you know, we issued 
the Notice of Intent to prepare an EIS on April 30th. BLM will 
accept public comments through May 30th, so for the rest of 
this month. And we are absolutely aware of the interest in the 
timely completion of this review process. It will continue.
    We don't have any plans to slow walk, or whatever, and I 
apologize if our staff hasn't been back in touch with your 
office, I will make sure that they are in touch with you when 
you call, and we are happy to keep you updated.
    Senator Britt. Thank you. I really appreciate it. And just 
so that I make sure that we are on the same page, that you just 
mentioned, obviously, the Notice of Intent that was published 
in April, you talked about the draft EIS this fall, I mentioned 
the final EIS next summer, and the Record of Decision in early 
2026. So you are committed to maintaining that time line. I 
have that commitment from you today?
    Secretary Haaland. If that is the time line. I will make 
sure that is what my staff has put out, and we will be in touch 
with your office, certainly.
    Senator Britt. I greatly appreciate that, because 
currently, as you know, Warrior Met Mine is right next to a 
Federal coal, and they mine their land more than about 1,500 
feet under the earth, and they will run into that Federal 
border that shifts that ownership to the U.S. Government, and 
the coal across that boundary is obviously the exact same coal. 
It is the same chemically. It is the same mine, and it leaves 
the ground the exact same way and goes to the same place.
    So Warrior Met wants the opportunity to continue to do 
that, to do what they do, and to do it well. So I appreciate 
your commitment to maintaining that time line, and obviously, I 
am hopeful that it can be done even quicker than that. The 
process has clearly taken entirely too long, and it is really 
put a number of Alabama jobs, not to mention a $1.2 billion 
revenue stream, at risk.
    And so I am glad to hear the Agency has a time line. I look 
forward to working with your team. I appreciate your commitment 
to continue to be responsive, and I look forward to getting 
this resolved in a positive manner. Thank you, Madam Secretary.

                         KLAMATH FISH HATCHERY

    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Britt.
    I want to turn to the Klamath ``Gone Fishing'' Hatchery. We 
had a situation on the Klamath Lake where two species of 
suckers, the c'waam and the koptu, which have been critical to 
the tribal culture and tribal nutrition in the Klamath Basin, 
were on the edge of extinction. And we set up a number of years 
ago I held a gathering to bring all the experts together, and 
out of that came this plan to have this hatchery. And actually, 
``hatchery'' isn't quite accurate. It is more rearing ponds. 
The small fry are harvested after they hatch, and brought in.
    We now have discovered that the younger fish die when they 
return to the lake because of the levels of toxins from algae 
blooms, but that the older fish have a chance of surviving, 
those 5 years or older. This process continues to build this so 
that we will save these two species, save that ecosystem. In 
February, Fish and Wildlife Service announced that it would 
send $20 million in infrastructure funding to complete the 
hatchery. So this is good, and I use ``hatchery'' in quotes.
    Do you have an update on the progress of that expansion? 
And the sooner we get this hatchery completed the sooner we 
will be able to say that this vital piece of restoration of the 
Klamath Basin has been achieved.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Chairman, for your ongoing 
support on so many things. Construction of the hatchery 
maintenance buildings is started and is projected to be 
completed in spring or summer of 2025. Construction is underway 
for a 14 tier two ponds, with tentative completion in the 
summer of 2025. Effluent retention pond and six brood stock 
ponds are targeted for a summer 2025 completion, and the Fish 
and Wildlife Service expects all phases of construction will be 
completed no later than the first quarter of fiscal year 2027.
    Senator Merkley. Well, it does seem like things are 
steadily progressing. My last visit, I was so impressed by how 
much had been built, and that how many, now, three-year-olds 
were there. And they said by age five, actually, the fish in 
the system will be able to start reproducing. So there is real 
hope that we are saving them from extinction.

                     WESTERN OREGON OPERATING PLAN

    I want to turn to the Western Oregon Operating Plan, or 
WOOP. A few weeks ago, I led a letter, without objection I 
would like to enter it into the record, the letter dated April 
22nd. And there was a parallel letter from the Douglas County 
Commissioner, Tim Freeman, on April 29th, without objection I 
enter both those into the record.
    [The information follows:]
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    Senator Merkley. The effort here is cooperation to be 
deeply engaged in wildfire preparation. One of the most 
important tools we have are firefighters, engines, equipment on 
the ground, ready to act. This agreement, the WOOP, has been a 
model for this sort of interagency collaboration.
    I am very concerned that the negotiations have stalled out 
on this. I would like your commitment, Madam Secretary, to 
finish this negotiation before the current agreement expires, 
and to get a replacement five-year agreement in place. Can I 
have your support and commitment to get the WOOP negotiation 
completed?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, yes, the BLM is committed t0o 
continue the interagency Wildland Fire Partnership with the 
Oregon Department of Forestry, and you have our ongoing 
commitment to work together to meet the requirements of both 
partners for the financial oversight and accountability, 
firefighter, safety, and industry risk management.
    Senator Merkley. Very highly important we get this done.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes. Thank you.

                     WILDLAND FIRE-HAZARDOUS FUELS

    Senator Merkley. Thank you. Turning to hazardous fuels. We 
have increased hazardous fuels funding from less than 500 
million 10 years ago to more than a billion today, so that is 
great. But we have to recognize that expansion is from one-time 
investments from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. The amount 
of forest that we can treat, whether it is prescribed burns, or 
thinning, or mowing, is microscopic compared to the amount of 
forest we have.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.
    Senator Merkley. So I am I am trying to get focused on the 
highest risk fire sheds, Rogue Valley is one of those highest 
risk fire sheds, so I have been working with Director Stone-
Manning and her team at BLM to get multiyear fuel treatments on 
the ground there in the Rogue Valley to reduce the potential 
for catastrophic wildfire.
    At our fiscal year 2024 hearing, it seems like a long time 
ago now, you committed to make sure the Rogue Valley would 
receive hazardous fuels funding either through annual 
appropriations, or the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. How is 
that going? Are we going to see that investment in the Rogue 
Valley?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, what I can say is that fuels 
management is obviously incredibly important to us. For fiscal 
year 2023, nearly 1 million of fuels management work was 
completed by the BLM in Southern Oregon, and in fiscal year 
2024 the BLM plans to conduct 1.5 million of fuels management 
work in Southern Oregon. Does that answer your question?
    Senator Merkley. No. Not quite. No, because Rogue Valley is 
a specific part, and we have got a lot of fires in different 
parts of Oregon, a lot of forest, so can we simply agree to 
follow up on this and address Rogue Valley, specifically?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes, we will be back in touch with you. 
I apologize I don't have that specific information right now on 
Rogue Valley, but we will be in touch with your office.
    [The information follows:]
      fuels management--rogue valley--jackson & josephine counties
    The info in the table below includes base and BIL funds planned and 
completed in fiscal year 2023 as well as work funded in fiscal year 
2024. In fiscal year 2023, only the BLM funded work in both counties, 
but in fiscal year 2024 the BLM and the National Park Service are 
funding work in the counties.

 
 
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                                                                             Annual Fuels
             Year Planned and Completed                   BIL Funding     Management Funding     Total Funding
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2023--Planned.......................................            $217,000            $953,000          $1,170,000
2023--Completed.....................................            $217,000            $953,000          $1,170,000
2024 - Planned......................................          $1,974,000                  $0          $1,974,000
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    Senator Merkley. Great. Thank you. Senator Hoeven.
    Senator Hoeven. Thank you Mr. Chair.

                    TRIBAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS

    Secretary Haaland, I know you are well aware of the very 
serious problem of missing and murdered indigenous women on 
reservations across the country, and you know, the challenges 
that we face in Indian Country with crime. Obviously there is 
an incredible need for more BIA law enforcement officers out 
there. For example in the Upper Great Plains, like where I 
live, I think we are at something like 50 percent of our 
staffing capacity for BIA law enforcement officers.
    And I think perhaps the greatest solution that we can bring 
to help solve the problem of crime on the reservation, the 
problem of missing and murdered indigenous women and children, 
is to have more BIA law enforcement officers out there. So we 
worked to create the Advanced Training Center at Camp Grafton, 
which is our Army--our National Guard Base which is right near 
Spirit Lake, in North Dakota, and near the Spirit Lake Tribe--
near Devils Lake, and near the Spirit Lake Tribe. To work along 
with Artesia, which is from your state, obviously, but you have 
got this issue of recruiting people to become BIA law 
enforcement officers, and it is hard to get folks from up in 
the North to go down to the South, and from South up, you know, 
vice versa.
    And so now we actually have some balance there, in terms of 
where individuals can go to be trained as BIA law enforcement 
officers. Last year, there were 5,429 personnel that went 
through those programs, would it surprise you to know that 
3,000 of those went through the Advanced Training Center at 
Camp Grafton. So about 5,500 roughly, and 3,000 went through 
our training center.
    So I guess I would like to know, one, are you aware of what 
we are doing here? And two, how can you help us do more? 
Because we still have incredible vacancy rates in our BIA law 
enforcement officers, and we need to do more.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Senator. And of course we all 
agree with you, we need more people out there, and I 
experienced that as a tribal administrator in New Mexico. So we 
would love to continue this conversation with you, if possible. 
I appreciate your efforts in that area, and want you to know 
that along with the training that you were talking about, we 
are working hard for things like pay parity, you know, the 
initiative to bring BIA law enforcement pay in line with other 
Federal law enforcement, we know that once you train these 
folks, you want them to stay put and not be lured away by 
higher pay in another agency.
    So we appreciate that. We would love to have a further 
conversation with you about this particular training center, 
and would be happy to talk more about it.
    Senator Hoeven. So we have your commitment to do more with 
these training centers, to do more recruitment--to do more to 
recruit these--recruit people to be BIA law enforcement, and 
remember we also provide ongoing training as well.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.
    Senator Hoeven. To get more of these personnel out on the 
reservation to combat crime. You are committed to working with 
us to do that?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes. And when I get back to my office I 
will ask Assistant Secretary Newland, to have someone reach out 
to your office.
    Senator Hoeven. Thank you, Secretary. I appreciate it.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir.

                              CRATER LAKE

    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Hoeven. And I 
want to turn to Crater Lake. You and I had the chance to visit 
Crater Lake. In fact, it was there where the ranger came out 
and displayed the sign showing decade-by-decade how much the 
snowpack, average snowpack had reduced. And it was stunning for 
me to see that, 240 inches of average loss of snowpack over 90 
years, roughly cutting the snowpack in half.
    But on a different issue for Crater Lake, this last year 
the National Park Service terminated the concessions contract 
at Crater Lake; it was held by a subsidiary of Aramark. My 
understanding is that a new concessionaire has been contracted 
with, and the transition is underway. Will there be any 
interruption or decrease service over the summer, or will the 
transition be fully complete before then? And will the new 
concessionaire honor all reservations and deposits that 
visitors have made for visiting Crater Lake?
    Secretary Haaland. Chairman, thank you so much. The 
hospitality company, ExplorUS, has taken over the concession 
contract at Crater Lake. ExplorUS is optimistic they will be 
able to provide a full suite of visitor services at the park 
this summer. There is nothing that I have heard that they would 
not honor any and all existing reservations, but I will make 
sure that we check on that, and get back with you to confirm.
    Senator Merkley. So smooth sailing in Crater Lake this 
summer?
    Secretary Haaland. All our fingers are crossed for smooth 
sailing, Chairman. Thank you.
    Secretary Haaland. Okay. Great.
    Secretary Haaland. And we hope that it will be a seamless 
transition.
    Senator Merkley. It is one of the truly extraordinary 
places on Earth. And as I travel throughout Oregon people say 
one of biggest moments of my life was visiting.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes. It is. I will never forget my trip 
there. And thank you so much for showing me Crater Lake.

                  RECLASSIFICATION OF TRIBAL PAYMENTS

    Senator Merkley. You are welcome. Let us visit it again. I 
want to turn to tribal sovereignty payments. The President's 
budget requests that we reclassify these tribal sovereignty 
payments, which are also known as contract support costs and 
105(l) building leases, as mandatory funding. This is 
important. The twin Supreme Court decisions have affirmed that 
the Federal Government is required to pay tribes for these 
administrative overhead and leasing costs as the tribes 
exercise their rights to self-government. In fiscal year 2024, 
these ate up $1.6 billion of the $38.5 billion allocation, and 
had increased by 12 percent compared to the previous year. That 
is tripling since 2010.
    And we have another pending Supreme Court case related to 
third-party bill with IHS, and in Health Service programs that 
could increase that cost further. These are mandatory payments 
required by the courts and that is why I am happy to see that 
you are proposing to reclassify them as mandatory payments, 
otherwise they just kind of eat up our efforts to fund every 
other program.
    Can you confirm that these payments are required by law? 
And do you think BIA and BIE, Bureau of Indian Education, 
programs will suffer if they are forced to continue 
accommodating these ballooning costs.
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Chairman. Yes, recent court 
decisions have affirmed the Government is required to cover 
these costs, which are called for in the Indian Self-
Determination Act. The funding covers the tribal costs 
associated with managing Federal programs on behalf of the 
Government. They are necessary and important for Tribes, and we 
will follow the law.

                     MONARCHS AND OTHER POLLINATORS

    Senator Merkley. Great. Thank you. I want to turn to one 
feature of the impact on species in the last few decades. Our 
western monarchs are a treasured symbol, and almost anytime you 
see a butterfly on anything, it is often a monarch. And the 
population crashed a couple years ago to less than 1 percent of 
its historic numbers just 30 years ago. It was down to about 
2,000 butterflies.
    It has since rebounded. So that is good, but we are still 
somewhere around 95 percent decline. So one of the areas that 
we have been working on is to have this monarch and pollinator 
highway, to make road side tracks that are pollinator-friendly 
tracks. It was in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Now, 
different groups can add to this. It is a Department of 
Transportation program, but the Act allows other Federal 
agencies to receive funding for these activities, such as the 
Department of Interior.
    Given the large land area managed by DOI, countless roads 
across the landscape, is the Department aware of this 
opportunity? And is it planning to apply for funds to create 
and improve pollinator habitat on our Nation's roadways?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much. Great idea, and 
yes, the Fish and Wildlife Service would like to partner with 
the Department of Transportation on this really innovative 
issue. And we will let them know about the current funding 
announcement.
    Senator Merkley. Terrific, because this is an opportunity 
for various approaches, including clubs adopting a piece of 
highway and planting pollinator-friendly plants. And since that 
creates a lot of north-south corridors that are important to 
the monarchs, there are many other opportunities for other 
pollinators.
    I promised not to ask a question after my time had expired, 
and my time has expired. So I am going to turn to Senator 
Murkowski.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

                   NATIONAL PETROLEUM RESERVE ALASKA

    Madam Secretary, I want to ask about NPRA Rule. As I 
mentioned, you are closing off 13 million of our 23 million 
acre preserve. We absolutely believe that this conflicts with 
the law, which calls for expedited leasing and development. And 
what we are effectively looking at is something that is 
designed to cut off access across the reserve.
    Now, I appreciated the issue that was raised by the Senator 
from Rhode Island, in noting that here in the United States we 
have seen increased oil production. I think it is great. I 
think it is fabulous for this country. I just wish Alaska were 
able to participate in it more, as other states are. Certainly, 
the State of New Mexico's oil production has increased by about 
900,000 barrels per day in this administration. In Alaska, our 
production has been flat. It has even declined a little bit 
here, your production, the production in your home state, in 
New Mexico, literally four times ours on a daily basis.
    And this is where I just don't get it. We are the ones that 
are the carbon bomb, so to speak. We are the ones that are 
targeted, in Alaska. It is only our lands that are being closed 
down, access denied. Somehow it seems like our emissions are a 
lot worse than anybody else's, in New Mexico or somewhere else.
    So I have to keep coming back to this because it is such a 
double standard. And this is where Alaskans are like: We are 
part of the United States, and yet we are treated in a very, 
very, very different manner. When you announced the NPRA Rule, 
you stated that, quote, ``The steps we are taking today are 
based on the best available science and in recognition of the 
indigenous knowledge of the original stewards of this area to 
safeguard our public lands for future generations.''
    But the question that I have for you is, how can you state 
that this rule is based on the best science, when Interior did 
not conduct a NEPA analysis, or any economic analysis, and made 
no attempt to understand how it would impact the subsistence, 
and the communities that, again, these are the original 
stewards of the land here? I have heard from them. The press 
has recounted time and time again, that eight times, eight 
separate occasions the Alaskan Native people who lived in the 
area asked to meet with you and your office to speak to this.

                        FINAL RULE ON THE NPR-A

    You said earlier in a response to one of my colleagues here 
today, I think you were referring to the Avi Kwa Ame, I am 
probably mispronouncing it, I am sorry, but you said, and I 
wrote it down because it struck me, you said, ``When tribes 
come to us to ask to conserve certain lands, we listen.''
    So the question is, when tribes want to come to you to ask 
to develop certain lands, do you also listen, because what they 
share with me is that you refuse them that opportunity. So I 
guess my question is, how can you claim the rule is based on 
the science, the best science when there is no NEPA analysis, 
there is no economic analysis, and the consultation with the 
people who live there, has failed?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I 
just have to say, with respect to New Mexico, there is a lot of 
private land there that is developed that is not under the 
Federal Government's purview.
    Senator Murkowski. I understand.
    Secretary Haaland. And we don't have any, you know----
    Senator Murkowski. And we have less than 1 percent of 
private lands. But what we do have are public lands, we have 
public lands.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes. And we take those lands seriously. 
And I also do want to say how much we have been engaged with 
Alaska on so many things. The Gravel-To-Gravel Initiative, for 
example, salmon crashes in the Yukon-Kuskokwim River delta. We 
are listening, we are working on those issues. So I don't want 
to lose sight of the good things that we have done in Alaska.
    Senator Murkowski. No. And I don't lose sight of that. I 
don't lose sight of that. But what I am trying to understand 
from this administration is, it seems that the actions that are 
being taken from the administration when it comes to the 
opportunity for economic activity, for people to be able to 
make a living, for people to be able to stay in their region, 
for people to have better life expectancies, and health 
outcomes, and education, and public safety, when we ask for 
that it seems that if it is on public lands, it is a no-go. It 
is a no-go.
    Can you give me your ironclad commitment that the Final 
Rule on the NPRA will have no impact on operators' ability to 
develop their existing leases, and not only on the leases 
themselves, but for the roads and the connective infrastructure 
as well, because this was the promise from the administration. 
This was the promise that we had, was that those existing 
leases would not be impacted. And I can tell you right now, the 
operators up there, are very, very, very concerned that they 
will be impacted, they will not be able to develop fully their 
leases, as the promise. Can you give me the commitment that 
they will be able to develop their existing leases?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, the rule includes specific 
protections for valid existing rights.
    Senator Murkowski. Um-hum.
    Secretary Haaland. And we encourage people to call us. We 
are happy to have conversations with anyone, and we have 
engaged more--I know people like to say we didn't consult, we 
didn't do this, we really have had many, many conversations, 
over a 100,000 public comments were received during this 
period. So the rule does include specific protections for valid 
existing rights. If anyone in particular has a specific 
question to ask us, we are happy to engage in a conversation.
    Senator Murkowski. I don't think anybody wants more 
conversation. They want the valid existing leases to be 
respected, to be respected in full, and that includes not only 
the leases themselves but the roads and the connective 
infrastructure as well.
    Mr. Chairman.

                  PESTICIDES ON WILDLIFE REFUGE AREAS

    Senator Merkley. Thank you. I wanted to turn to wildlife 
refuges. We have a number of them in my home state, and often 
the wildlife refuges are farmed. And one of the issues that 
folks have raised is that the pesticides that are used on the 
refuges have a big impact on the insect population, but also on 
the bird populations that are passing through and migrating.
    I want to enter into the record a study published in 2020 
in ``Nature Sustainability''.
    [The information follows:]
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    Senator Merkley. And it basically lays out how one 
particular pesticide, neonicotinoids, have affected a decline 
in bird diversity in the United States. When people hear 
``refuge'', they assume we are managing the refuge in a fashion 
that is good for the ecosystem on the refuge. But that is the 
issue that has been raised as a point of concern.
    Are you aware of this point of concern? Is there any sort 
of dialogue underway in terms of trying to make sure that the 
refuges are indeed refuges and not poisoning the insects, the 
animals, and the birds?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you very much, Chairman. And you 
might know that the Fish and Wildlife Service recently proposed 
updated regulations for its Biological Integrity, Diversity, 
and Environmental Health Policy, we call it BIDEH. The proposal 
will strengthen the Refuge System's ability to achieve its 
conservation mission. It would give refuge managers a framework 
to evaluate and implement management actions to protect 
species, restore habitats, and increase climate resilience.
    An example of how the framework would apply would be 
consideration of pesticide use on refuge lands. We completely 
understand what you are saying, and I hope that--if that 
doesn't answer your question, we are happy to engage with your 
office more specifically, if that would be helpful, and 
specifically for refuges in your state.
    Senator Merkley. Yeah, I think it is worth continuing to 
examine the science around this, and since they are a public 
trust, and we do have a variety of farming practices that do 
not involve using these pesticides, so maybe they are not 
compatible with the ecosystem on the refuge. That is, I think 
it is worth wrestling with that question.
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.

                         ABANDONED MINE CLEANUP

    Senator Merkley. I want to turn to a challenge we have had 
in the past, which is when coal mining occurs, and when oil 
drilling occurs, there is a process that sometimes results in 
the companies declaring bankruptcy and leaving the cleanup of 
those mines, or the cleanup of those drilling sites, the 
plugging of the wells if you will, to the public to pay for.
    And the issue really is whether the bonding requirements to 
be set aside for cleaning up when one abandons a well or a 
mine, are sufficient. I know the administration has taken a 
recent action to try to address this. Could you describe that, 
and do we have confidence that the costs of cleaning up newly 
abandoned wells, will not continue to be foisted on to the 
American taxpayer?
    Secretary Haaland. Thank you so much, Senator. Yes, we 
understand that and agree that the taxpayers shouldn't have to 
foot the bill for someone else's mess. So yes, the rule 
addresses that serious problem. Let us see. Some of the 
benefits of the rule, the rule increases the 1960s minimum 
bonding amounts for Federal onshore oil and gas activities. 
Increase minimums will reduce the risk from future 
bankruptcies. Minimum lease bond amounts increase from 10,000 
to 150,000. Minimum statewide bond amount increases from 25,000 
to 500,000. Now bond amounts provide an incentive for companies 
to meet their reclamation obligations, or cover the actual 
cleanup costs in the event an operator goes out of business, or 
otherwise fails to complete required plugging and reclamation.
    Senator Merkley. For some, what I would call irresponsible 
companies, it has almost become a business model: use 
bankruptcy to toss, if you will, your obligation to clean up, 
and then you reincorporate and continue with other sites. So I 
think that is important.
    I know when I was developing housing, we had to have a bond 
to complete the project, and it was like, you start this 
project, it is going to get completed, and that bond cost us 
some money. But it was very important that half-constructed 
projects, that it not sit there in the public landscape. I 
think the same thing applies here. That as one drills, or as 
one mines, you are fully responsible possible for cleaning up 
that mess.
    There is a phrase that is sometimes used about: Privatize 
the profits, socialize the losses. And that is a phrase that 
refers to, well, we will kind of run up the profit, and then we 
will dump the expenses of cleaning it up onto the public 
taxpayer. So I think this is an important process and applaud 
that you are all wrestling with appropriate bonding to make 
sure that that doesn't continue to happen.
    Let me turn to my colleague.

                   TRIBAL ENGAGEMENT ON THE NPRA RULE

    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before I ran 
out of time with the last question, we were talking about the 
NPRA Rule, and you had started to detail the consultation that 
had gone on, the numerous meetings. The reason there is such 
frustration over this consultation process is because there 
were multiple individuals that were frustrated over this issue. 
So it required the subcommittee to, basically, call on Interior 
to conduct additional consultation with Alaskan Natives and the 
tribal entities on the slope.
    It not only came here from the committee, it came from the 
Congressional Delegation, from the Legislature, and yet the 
Department announces the publication of the Final NPRA Rule on 
April 19. Not a single effort made to conduct additional 
consultation as we had requested.
    Part of the back and forth in this that, again, leads to 
ongoing frustration, is our comments from your own team, the 
NPRA Working Group met to discuss this issue in August, and one 
of your Deputy Assistant Secretaries, Kathryn Kovacs, stated, 
she says, ``I am happy to regale you with the ins and outs of 
the Congressional Review Act, but unfortunately, we are on a 
schedule with this one, that we don't have any control over. So 
we just don't have that kind of time for a rule. We are on a 
schedule on this one. We don't have any control over this.''
    And so you have got a situation where it has already been 
forecast to people; that look, we have got this clock ticking 
because we have got to--we want to avoid an effective veto 
under the under the CRA. How can this be considered meaningful 
consultation if your own Department is effectively sabotaging 
it before it even begins? I just--I can't believe that it is 
appropriate for somebody within the Department to, basically, 
say: This consultation is just kind of a check-the-box exercise 
that we have to get behind?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, I will just say that following 
all of those meetings that you spoke about, they extended the 
comment period on November 13 for an additional 20 days.
    Senator Murkowski. Twenty days, yeah.
    Secretary Haaland. Also, I want to say that we also 
reaffirmed that nation-to-nation consultation is not restricted 
to a public comment period, and could occur any time, when 
tribal leaders request those consultations. I also would like 
to offert, a fact sheet, which lists for you all of the tribal 
engagements that we had detailing that engagement for the 
record if that would be helpful as well.
    [The information follows:]
       rule alaska native tribes and ancsa corporation engagement
  --On March 13, 2023, the Administration previewed its intent to 
        develop a draft rule to maximum protections for significant 
        resource values on the more than 13 million acres of Special 
        Areas in the western Arctic, while supporting subsistence uses 
        and needs for Alaska Native communities.

  --On August 25, 2023, in advance of the publication of the draft 
        rule, the BLM mailed a formal offer for consultation to 45 
        Tribes and 30 Alaska Native Corporations to engage in 
        consultation on the proposal. The BLM did not receive a 
        response to these invitations from any of the Tribes or Alaska 
        Native Corporations. On September 6, 2023, agency staff called 
        state and local governments to ensure they were aware of the 
        upcoming publication of the proposed rule and to offer 
        opportunities to discuss the rule language.

  --On September 6, 2023, the Department released the draft NPR-A rule 
        and launched a 60- day comment period following publication in 
        the Federal Register on September 8th. The BLM continued to 
        offer consultation via phone, email, and in-person invitations 
        to Tribes and Alaska Native Corporations that it determined 
        would be most likely to have substantial direct effects from 
        the rule, including the Native Village of Atqasuk; Atqasuk 
        Corporation; Village of Wainwright; Olgoonik Corporation; 
        Native Village of Nuiqsut; Kuupik Corporation; Native Village 
        of Barrow; Ukpeagevik Inupiat Corporation (UIC); Arctic Slope 
        Regional Corporation (ASRC); and Inupiat Community of the 
        Arctic Slope (ICAS).

  --The BLM held three in-person meetings on the proposed rule in 
        Anchorage (October 10, 2023), Nuiqsut (November 1, 2023), and 
        Utqiagvik (November 2, 2023) to provide an overview of the 
        proposed rule and answer questions from the public. The BLM 
        also held one hybrid meeting in Wainwright on December 4, 2023. 
        A court reporter was present at the Nuiqsut and Utqiagvik 
        meetings to transcribe all comments and questions. The hybrid 
        meeting in Wainwright was recorded via the Zoom platform, and 
        those comments were collected by the BLM on behalf of the 
        commenters and submitted as comments to the rulemaking docket 
        on regulations.gov. For each meeting in Reserve communities, 
        the BLM coordinated with local entities.

  --Based on feedback our team heard in Alaska, the BLM extended the 
        comment period on October 17, 2023, for 10 additional days.

  --The BLM met with the Mayor of Atqasuk on October 31, 2023; the 
        Native Village of Nuiqsut on November 1, 2023; ICAS on November 
        3, 2023, and February 6, 2024; Village of Wainwright on 
        November 21, 2023; Olgoonik Corporation on December 19, 2023; 
        ASRC on December 21, 2023; and Kuukpik on February 1, 2024.

  --In addition, the agency met with the NPR-A Working Group three 
        times during the public comment period and three times since 
        its close. The NPR-A Working Group is comprised of 
        representatives from North Slope local governments, Alaska 
        Native Corporations, and Tribal entities. It is intended to 
        provide a forum for North Slope communities to provide input to 
        management of the Reserve. ICAS, NSB, Voice of the Arctic 
        Inupiat, and ASRC met with representatives of the BLM and the 
        Department on September 21, 2023, in Washington DC.

  --Representatives from ICAS, NSB, Voice of the Arctic Inupiat, ASRC, 
        Olgoonik Corporation and Anaktuvuk Pass, along with their 
        lobbying representation, met with Acting Deputy Secretary Laura 
        Daniel-Davis and BLM leadership in Washington DC on November 8, 
        2023, in Washington DC, where they were joined by 
        Representative Peltola.

  --The Acting Deputy Secretary, BLM Director and BLM Principal Deputy 
        Director also met with non-profit, Native Alaskan-led 
        organizations who support the rule: Sovereign Inupiat for a 
        Living Arctic and Grandmothers Growing Goodness.

  --Following those meetings, the BLM again extended the comment period 
        on November 13, 2023, for an additional 20 days, to ensure that 
        anyone who wanted to participate had the opportunity. We also 
        reaffirmed that nation-to-nation consultation is not restricted 
        to a public comment period and could occur anytime Tribal 
        leaders requested.

    Senator Murkowski. Is it not correct, though, that eight 
times you were asked by various leaders from the North Slope 
region for meetings, came all the way from Alaska to 
Washington, D.C., to specifically meet with you, only to have 
their request asked. I know that that is a fact because our 
offices tried to get meetings for our constituents when they 
traveled 5,000 miles to come and see you.
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, I know that our Acting Deputy 
Secretary did meet along with Congresswoman Peltola.
    Senator Murkowski. Our Acting Deputy Secretary did meet?
    Secretary Haaland. Yes.
    Senator Murkowski. Our Secretary of the Interior making an 
extraordinarily consequential decision about lands that this 
group of Alaska Native leaders call home and subsist upon, were 
denied meetings eight times. Let me ask about the Department 
took an additional 18 days to publish the Final Rule in the 
Federal Register. I am not sure why. What I really want to know 
is whether or not there were any changes between the unofficial 
pre-publication version of the rule, and the final version?
    Secretary Haaland. I can't answer that for you at the 
moment. But I will absolutely go back to the office and ask the 
BLM to respond to that question.
    Senator Murkowski. I think it is kind of important because 
there is a notable gap there. Your staff had previously 
committed to providing red line of the Draft Rule and the Final 
Rule, so can you share with me as well, the red line of the 
unofficial publication version of the rule?
    Secretary Haaland. Senator, we will absolutely be in touch 
with your office as to those two specific questions.
    Senator Murkowski. Yeah. I would like to get--I would like 
to get that red line by the end of this next week if we can.
    [The information follows:]
 management and protection of the national petroleum reserve in alaska
    A red-line strikeout comparison of the draft and final rules 
provided to the Subcommittee previously, follows.
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    Secretary Haaland. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you, Senator.
    And Secretary Haaland, and your team, thank you for coming, 
and addressing so many different issues. It is a vast swath of 
America that you have responsibility for, and it is so much 
more the case in the western part of the United States. And so 
I am pleased that Senator Murkowski and I both come from the 
West so we can work on these issues together. And we are 
entering another fiscal year in this challenge.
    So I know there will be lots of follow up from many members 
on the topics raised today. And thank you for striving to 
respond to our queries and our concerns.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    If there are no other statements, the hearing record will 
be open until close of business on May 15, 2024.
                Questions Submitted by Senator Jack Reed
    Question. I am encouraged to see the Administration helping to 
develop offshore wind energy... which is bringing with it thousands of 
jobs and significant investment in our port and grid infrastructure, 
particularly in my home State of Rhode Island.
    As you know, we must make these investments thoughtfully, while 
minimizing interference with other ocean users, including fisheries. In 
2022, the Bureau of Ocean Management (BOEM) proposed guidance for 
mitigation to commercial and recreational fisheries from offshore wind 
development.
    Issuing final guidance will provide clarity for all stakeholders 
during the review process for new offshore wind projects.
    Answer. BOEM is developing guidance for mitigation of potential 
impacts from offshore wind energy projects on commercial and 
recreational fishing communities. The guidance will provide detailed 
processes that offshore wind lessees can follow to avoid, minimize, and 
mitigate impacts to fisheries in the areas of project siting, design, 
navigation, access, safety, and financial compensation.
    As noted, in June 2022, BOEM published the draft guidance document 
for public comment. BOEM received public comments and conducted virtual 
meetings and in April 2023, BOEM expanded engagement with Tribal 
communities to ensure meaningful feedback. The Bureau's goal is to have 
the final guidance available by the end of this year.
    All projects approved to date have included fisheries mitigation 
plans. BOEM is ensuring that lessons learned from implementation of 
those plans are incorporated into the guidance. BOEM intends to have a 
public meeting after the final guidance is issued to explain the 
changes made by the Bureau based on the comments received.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Kyrsten Sinema
    Question. Domestically sourced and processed critical minerals and 
metals are essential for U.S. national security and energy 
independence. Do you agree that critical minerals are a key part of our 
National security strategy? What concrete steps has the Department 
taken to streamline the permitting burden on domestic mining projects 
to meet the growing need for critical minerals? What is DOI doing to 
collaborate with the Department of Defense to develop domestic critical 
minerals capabilities by leveraging extraction and processing as a part 
of reclamation activities on Federal lands?
    Answer. The BLM established a pre-planning process to improve the 
efficiency and effectiveness of processing plans of operations under 
the surface management regulations, 43 CFR subparts 3802 and 3809. 
Although pre-plan submittal meetings are voluntary on the part of the 
operator, they have proven beneficial in identifying issues in the 
early stages of a project to help facilitate the permitting process. 
The pre-planning process has demonstrated that this approach leads to 
shorter review and processing times for plans of operations and the 
associated National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) analysis.
    We are committed to working collaboratively with the Department of 
Defense to develop domestic critical minerals capabilities.
    Question. Given that the Department of Energy now considers copper 
as a critical material for the energy transition, and recent analysis 
of the copper market shows copper's supply risk exceeding USGS' 
threshold for inclusion on the Critical Minerals List (CML), why have 
you not exercised your statutory authority to add this critical 
material for the energy transition and national defense to the CML?
    Answer. The USGS appreciates that copper is an essential mineral 
commodity to U.S. economic and national security interests and notes 
that many types of copper deposits can also host several byproduct 
critical minerals. The USGS devotes significant effort within its 
Mineral Resources Program portfolio to the assessment of copper 
resources, the study of copper deposits, the investigation of the 
potential to extract critical and other minerals from copper mine 
waste, and detailed tracking of copper supply chains. Although copper 
did not meet the criteria for inclusion on the 2022 list of critical 
minerals, ongoing supply chain concerns are prompting reasonable 
questions over whether key commodities' supply chain risks should be 
reevaluated before the 3-year update cycle established by the Energy 
Act of 2020.
    In the analysis for the 2022 list of critical minerals, the USGS 
assessed copper as having a relatively high economic vulnerability 
score, indicating that the U.S. manufacturing sector is vulnerable to a 
supply disruption. In the years leading up to the 2022 list, this 
vulnerability was mitigated by a relatively low U.S. net import 
reliance on foreign supplies and a diversity of foreign supply sources.
    The most recent data for copper supply chains show a decrease of 
11% in U.S. copper mine production in 2023 relative to 2022, equivalent 
to a decrease in value of $1.3 billion. The decrease can be ascribed to 
a number of factors, including unusual weather conditions, major 
equipment failures, and declining ore grades and mining rates. 
Similarly, copper production at U.S. refineries decreased by an 
estimated 7% in 2023 compared to 2022 production, due in part to a 
major smelter rebuild. As a result of these changes, net import 
reliance for copper imports to the United States, which are 
predominantly refined copper, increased to 46%.
    This evolving situation will be factored into the analysis which is 
currently in preparation for the 2025 list of critical minerals. The 
criticality analysis requires a comprehensive look across all mineral 
commodities and relevant sectors of the economy. This means that there 
is no simple way to evaluate the critical mineral status of copper in 
isolation, and rerunning the 2022 analysis at this time would delay 
completion of the 2025 list, which is due in less than 1 year and 
incorporates an updated, forward-looking methodology.
    The Department of Energy (DOE) list of critical materials is 
focused on materials needed for energy technologies and categorizes 
energy materials as ``not critical'', ``near critical'', and 
``critical'' in both the near term (2020-2025) and medium term (2025-
2035)\1\. The DOE analysis evaluates copper as ``not critical'' in the 
near term and ``near critical'' in the medium term, based on the 
expectation of increasing copper demand associated with the energy 
transition. Although, as mentioned above, there are concerning trends 
in domestic copper production, copper consumption in the U.S. has yet 
to return to its pre-pandemic levels. As a result, it is not yet clear 
when, and to what degree, energy transition demands will have 
significant impacts on the copper market. As with domestic production, 
USGS will continue to monitor both domestic consumption and prices and 
incorporate those data in the evaluation of copper for inclusion in the 
2025 list of critical minerals.
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    Question. The GAO has examined the impact of low pay on recruitment 
and retention of qualified wildland firefighters. I was proud to secure 
the temporary pay increase in my bipartisan infrastructure law, and to 
introduce a permanent pay fix for wildland firefighters, the Wildland 
Firefighter Paycheck Protection Act. This legislation passed out of the 
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee last year with 
broad bipartisan support, and it is urgent that the Senate consider 
this legislation quickly.
    In your experience, how has the temporary increase in pay impacted 
the ability of the fire services to recruit qualified candidates, and 
how has the promise of Congress working towards a permanent solution 
impacted workforce morale? What would be the impact to our Federal 
wildland firefighting workforce if these much-deserved pay increases 
were to go away?
    Answer. By all accounts, the temporary pay increases authorized and 
funded by the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and continued for Fiscal 
Year 2024 with regular appropriations have had a positive impact within 
the wildland fire workforce. The temporary pay supplements have 
increased our ability to recruit and retain employees. The Department 
of the Interior has been able to increase our workforce capacity over 
the last few years, and these pay supplements are an important reason 
for that. However, wildland firefighters deserve permanent pay 
increases like the reforms and proposed legislation included in the 
President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget, and authorized in bi-partisan 
legislation similar to the bill you introduced.
    We cannot be certain of the effects of not enacting a permanent pay 
fix, but we hear from many employees that they will look for employment 
elsewhere if the increased pay they are now receiving does not 
continue. Entry-level personnel need permanent pay increases so they 
can be appropriately compensated for this arduous and sometimes 
dangerous line of work without having to worry about whether their pay 
rate will continue every year. Because our wildland firefighters 
develop highly specialized experience and qualifications it is very 
difficult to replace mid-level and senior-level employees. These 
personnel play a significant role in fireline leadership. We cannot 
afford to lose the Federal investment in these employees, which would 
set back ongoing efforts to build the pipeline of the entry-level and 
early-career workforce needed to advance interagency wildland fire 
management.
    Question. Does the Department have adequate resources to, in 
concert with the Department of Agriculture, set up and manage the Baaj 
Nwaavjo I'tah Kukveni--Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon 
National Monument? Please provide a timeline of recent administrative 
actions taken, and if there is insufficient funding, an estimate of 
what is needed.
    Answer. Reductions in appropriated dollars and new special areas 
designations impact the BLM's capacity to administer these areas and 
provide for their appropriate care and protection. The BLM is making 
progress on the following administrative actions for Baaj Nwaavjo I'tah 
Kukveni--Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon National Monument 
described below. As work continues to advance and the National Monument 
develops, additional resources will be needed. Recent administrative 
actions taken include:

  --The BLM has initiated the development of the Monument Advisory 
        Committee (MAC) Charter. We anticipate the MAC will meet up to 
        four times annually, and at other times as determined necessary 
        to support the development of the monument management plan and 
        the subsequent management of the monument.

  --The BLM is collaborating with the U.S. Forest Service and Arizona 
        Game and Fish Department on drafting a memorandum of 
        understanding with respect to fish and wildlife management, per 
        direction in the establishing proclamation.

    The BLM is coordinating with 13 Tribes on the formation of the Baaj 
Nwaavjo I'tah Kukveni--Ancestral Footprints of the Grand Canyon 
National Monument Commission. Thus far, the BLM has entered into co-
stewardship agreements with 9 of the Tribes and is working on co-
stewardship agreements with the remaining 4 Tribes.
    Going forward, the monument will require resources to support the 
monument planning process and associated environmental review under 
NEPA, additional signage, and maintain dedicated staffing.
    Question. In recent years, Congress expressed concern that 105(l) 
Payments for Tribal Leases have placed the House and Senate Committees 
on Appropriations in the difficult position where rapidly escalating 
requirements for lease costs are negatively impacting the ability to 
use discretionary appropriations to support core Tribal programs, 
including health, education and construction programs, or provide 
essential fixed cost requirements. Congress has acknowledged that both 
the language of the section 105(l) of the Indian Self-Determination Act 
and decisions from litigation appear to create an entitlement to 
compensation for 105(l) leases that is typically not funded through 
discretionary appropriations. Appropriators have directed both the 
Department of the Interior and the Indian Health Service to formulate a 
long-term solution to address the requirement to meet lease payments 
under the 105(l) program, including consideration of whether to 
reclassify 105(l) payments as an appropriated entitlement. As a result, 
this Administration has consisted proposed classifying 105(l) payments 
as mandatory funding. Please respond to the following questions which 
will help describe the impacts of leaving section 105(l) lease payments 
as discretionary appropriations:
    Please explain the impact that increasing 105(l) payments have had 
on discretionary appropriations for the agencies with the Department of 
the Interior (including the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Bureau of Indian 
Education and any other impacted agency with the Department).
    Please describe the current status of Tribal requests to enter into 
leases with the Department including the number of leases requested and 
the impact existing and new leases will have on the Department's 
staffing and funding.
    Please project the growth of the 105(l) program over the next 5 
years.
    Answer. The 105(l) program currently has over 1,400 leases in the 
backlog for requests from 2021-2024. We are still receiving new 
requests at a faster rate than we can process them. The program is not 
just growing but growing at an accelerated rate, with requests from 
three Tribes in 2019 to one hundred twenty-eight Tribes as of the end 
of FY 2024. This significant growth underscores the importance of our 
collective efforts to manage it. We have requested additional FTE to 
implement the program through BIA's Operation of Indian Programs 
account in the 2025 President's Budget.
    Discretionary appropriations for the 105(l) program for recent 
years have grown from $21.6 million in 2021 to $36.6 million in 2022, 
to the projected amounts of $82.5 million in 2024, and, $120.0 million 
in 2025. The impact of 105(l) payments will be greater in future years. 
Once initiated, most leases will likely continue into future years, so 
the total program will only increase as new leases are added to the 
program, as existing rents increase, and as existing leases grow in 
scope. Appropriation needs for 105(l) are expected to grow rapidly 
based Tribes' interest expressed in the program and the volume of lease 
applications. BIA is statutorily obligated to pay lease costs.
    As mentioned in the question, recent President's Budgets, including 
for FY 2025, have proposed reclassifying 105(l) lease costs as 
mandatory funding. If 105(l) funding remains on discretionary, the 
expected rapid growth of lease costs will continue to exert pressure on 
topline total for BIA's discretionary appropriations as well as the 
topline discretionary total for all of DOI.
    As stated above, 105(l) leases costs are expected to be $120 
million in FY 2025. Projected costs for 105(l) leases for FY 2026-FY 
2030 are difficult to construct because they depend on Tribes' 
engagement in the program. The total number of leases, and therefore 
total estimated lease costs, are difficult estimate into the out-years.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Lisa Murkowski
    Question. The Executive Summary of the Ambler Road FSEIS includes 
just a one sentence explanation on why the No Action Alternative has 
been recommended, saying: ``any of the action alternatives would 
significantly impact resources, including important subsistence 
resources and uses, in ways that cannot be adequately mitigated.'' I 
understand and empathize with the concern from Alaskans who rely upon 
the Western Arctic Herd and have watched the herd size decrease over 
the past few years. However, that isn't the result of a road that 
hasn't been built yet and the Ambler Access Project (AAP) shouldn't be 
penalized as a result.
    The WAH peaked 15 years after construction and operation of the 
Delong Mountain Transportation System, and as we've seen with roads 
like the Dalton Highway or up on the North Slope, caribou populations 
have grown and can thrive alongside responsible resource development.
    Why exactly does the BLM believe that impacts to subsistence 
resources cannot be mitigated?
    How does the SEIS account for the natural, cyclical fluctuations in 
caribou herd population?
    How does the SEIS reconcile the proven mitigation measures that 
other roads throughout Alaska have demonstrated?
    Why exactly does the BLM believe that impacts to subsistence 
resources cannot be mitigated?
    Answer. The Ambler Road Supplemental EIS Appendix N: Potential 
Mitigation identifies and discusses potential measures that could be 
applied to mitigate adverse impacts to natural, social, and cultural 
impacts from the Ambler Road Project. As part of the analysis, the 
effectiveness of each potential mitigation measure is noted, and in 
each resource section or subsection, the expected effectiveness of the 
mitigation measures if collectively applied is discussed. For this 
analysis, it is assumed that the measure would be implemented by Alaska 
Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA) and enforced by the 
BLM. The discussion includes consideration of whether and how the 
effectiveness of mitigation on BLM-managed land would be affected if 
the same mitigation is not applied off BLM-managed land. The landowner 
discussion is necessary because the BLM manages only part of the land 
along each alternative and its authority is limited to mitigating 
impacts to BLM-managed lands and resources.
    For subsistence resources such as caribou, fish, and waterfowl, the 
proposed mitigation was found to be only partially effective at 
reducing impacts. Most importantly, for mammals, including caribou, no 
combination of mitigation measures could substantially reduce the 
potential for behavioral disturbance, displacement, injury, or 
mortality as a result of the Ambler Road. Even with the adoption of 
mitigation measures, the construction and operation of the Ambler Road 
could cause population level impacts to the Western Arctic Caribou Herd 
and a reduction in the abundance of caribou available for residents of 
several communities, as well as population level impacts to fish and a 
reduction in the abundance of harvestable fish and their availability 
for several communities.
    The Record of Decision (p. 24) concludes:

        ``As discussed in Section 4.4 of this ROD, under Section 
        1104(g)(2) of ANILCA and implementing regulation 43 CFR 36.7, 
        there are nine factors an agency is to consider in making a 
        decision on an application for a transportation and utility 
        system submitted under Title XI of ANILCA. Having closely 
        considered each of these factors (see Section 4.4 above), in 
        this Decision the BLM disapproves the application for a ROW 
        across BLM-managed lands and terminates the previously issued 
        BLM ROW Grant. In doing so, the BLM finds that, even if the 
        agency were to adopt all reasonable mitigation measures 
        analyzed in the Final Supplemental EIS intended to reduce 
        impacts to important resources and subsistence uses (see 43 CFR 
        36.7(a)(2)(vii)), under each alternative route analyzed (see 43 
        CFR 36.7(a)(2)(ii)) the proposed road's significantly adverse 
        short and long term social and environmental impacts, including 
        impacts on fish and wildlife and their habitat and on rural, 
        traditional lifestyles including subsistence uses, and 
        associated adverse impacts to public values in the affected 
        communities (see 43 CFR 36.7(a)(2)(iv), (viii) and (ix)) 
        substantially outweigh other relevant factors including the 
        need for and potential economic benefits of the road and 
        impacts on national security interests (see 43 CFR 
        36.7(a)(2)(i), (iv) and (v)). For the same reasons, approving 
        the ROW across BLM-managed lands would not be in the public 
        interest.''

    Question. How does the SEIS account for the natural, cyclical 
fluctuations in caribou herd population?
    Answer.The Supplemental EIS contains a detailed discussion of 
natural fluctuations in caribou herd populations, including those of 
the Western Arctic Caribou Herd, as well as long term declining trends 
in many caribou herd populations throughout North America thought to be 
attributable to a warming climate. See Supplemental EIS, Section 3.3.4, 
pages 3-131 through 3-138. The Supplemental EIS analyzes impacts to 
caribou in the context of these fluctuations and trends. See, e.g., 
Supplemental EIS, Section 3.3.4, pages 3-141 through 3-149.
    Question. How does the SEIS reconcile the proven mitigation 
measures that other roads throughout Alaska have demonstrated?
    Answer. As explained in Section 3.3.4 of the Supplemental EIS, 
notwithstanding the adoption of mitigation measures, other roads in 
Alaska have resulted in significant effects on caribou movements and 
migrations, including delays or refusals to cross roads and route 
deflections. The 211-mile length and geographic orientation of the 
proposed Ambler Road to Western Arctic Caribou Herd migration routes 
makes it particularly likely to result in these impacts.
    Question. One of the reasons that your department voluntarily 
remanded the Record of Decision for the AAP was an alleged deficiency 
with regards to consultation. In the original EIS, the BLM determined 
that 27 communities along the proposed road corridor could be impacted 
by development of the AAP. However, in the SEIS, the BLM expanded that 
scope to 66 communities--including villages that are hundreds of miles 
away or on an island in the Chukchi Sea--that could impacted based on 
their subsistence practices.
  --Did the BLM visit each of those 66 communities and hold government-
        to-government consultation while drafting the SEIS?
  --[If not] Given that consultation was the reason for the voluntary 
        remand, why didn't they visit each community?
  --Did the BLM visit each of those 66 communities and hold government-
        to- government consultation while drafting the SEIS?
    Answer. While the original EIS analyzed impacts to 27 primary study 
communities, the Supplemental EIS analyzes impacts on 66 study 
communities, including the original 27 primary subsistence study 
communities, caribou subsistence study communities, and fish 
subsistence study communities.
    These are shown in Appendix F, Table 23 of the Ambler Road 
Supplemental EIS and on Map 1. Primary subsistence study communities 
are those located within 50 miles of the project alternatives, or with 
subsistence use areas documented within 30 miles of the project 
alternatives. In addition to the primary subsistence study communities, 
the Supplemental EIS analyzes communities that may experience indirect 
and/or downstream impacts resulting from changes in caribou and fish 
abundance, distribution/migration, and health. For caribou, these are 
the 42 communities that are members of the Western Arctic Caribou Herd 
Working Group (WACH WG). For fish, these are the 32 communities that 
are located downstream from where the project crosses tributaries in 
the Kobuk, Selawik, Koyukuk, and Yukon River basins.
    The BLM did not visit or hold government to government consultation 
with every one of the 66 study communities. However, through the ANILCA 
810 evaluation process the BLM identified 31 communities that had 
substantial levels of utilization for caribou, fish, moose, vegetation, 
and other subsistence resources that would have been affected by the 
proposed Ambler Road. For these communities, the BLM considered the 
three factors of abundance, availability, and access when determining 
if a significant restriction of subsistence may result from the 
proposed action, alternatives, or the cumulative case. As required by 
ANILCA, after determining that 30 or more communities may experience 
significant restriction of their subsistence use, the BLM held 12 
hearings in the vicinity of these communities.
    Question. [If not] Given that consultation was the reason for the 
voluntary remand, why didn't they visit each community?
    Answer.While consultation was one of the deficiencies identified as 
the basis for voluntary remand, the only consultation deficiency 
identified was inadequate government-to-government consultation prior 
to executing the National Historic Preservation Act Section 106 
Programmatic Agreement. In November 2022, 80 letters were sent to 
federally recognized Tribes, Tribal non-profits, and ANCs to reinitiate 
the Section 106 consultation process. Follow-up phone calls occurred 
every 2 weeks for 3 months to all entities, and follow-up emails were 
sent in December and January. As a result of this outreach the BLM held 
21 government to government consultation meetings, 19 that occurred in 
the communities, and two that were virtual.
    Question. As you know economic development in Alaska is a very 
challenging proposition and the Ambler Access Project not only would 
provide access to world class critical minerals needed for the green 
energy transition and defense technologies--like copper, cobalt, and 
germanium--but would provide extraordinarily high paying jobs and tax 
revenue in rural Alaska. We know that responsible resource development 
can positively impact Alaskans for generations. Take the North Slope, 
for example, where the life expectancy for Alaska Natives has grown 
more than any other region of the country thanks to the economic 
opportunity and jobs that have been provided by natural resource 
development and associated improvements to education, healthcare, and 
search and rescue.
    How does Interior view economic development in Alaska?
    Did the BLM consider the health benefits--like expanded access to 
telecom and telehealth--to Alaska's rural residents when the No Action 
Alternative was recommended?
    How about the decreased cost of household goods?
    What alternative economic development initiatives for the Upper 
Kobuk communities will you be pursing in light of this damaging 
recommendation?
    How does Interior view economic development in Alaska?
    Answer. The Department of the Interior views economic development 
in Alaska as part of the BLM's mission to sustain the health, 
diversity, and productivity of public lands for the use and enjoyment 
of future generations. BLM Alaska supports many uses of the public 
lands, such as recreation, nonenergy minerals mining and development, 
oil and gas development, timber/wood product sales, and rights-of-way. 
In Fiscal Year 2022, activities on public lands in Alaska supported 
$1.5 billion in economic output and almost 4,000 jobs (see BLM's 
``Valuing America's Public Lands 2023'' available on the BLM.gov 
website.
    Question. Did the BLM consider the health benefits--like expanded 
access to telecom and telehealth--to Alaska's rural residents when the 
No Action Alternative was recommended?
    How about the decreased cost of household goods?
    Answer. Yes, and yes. BLM's analysis of the economic and health 
impacts of the proposed road can be found in Section 3.4.5 
(Socioeconomics and Communities) of Volume 1 of the Final EIS available 
on the BLM.gov website.
    Through public meetings, ANILCA 810 hearings, Talking Circles, and 
the public comment period, many commenters discussed the potential 
economic benefits of the road, which are captured in Appendix Q of the 
Supplemental EIS). Many people expressed hope that the road would bring 
jobs for local residents, while at the same time potentially lowering 
the cost of goods such as fuel or groceries and allow for costly items 
like new vehicles or construction materials to be brought to 
communities with a lower shipping charge. This hope was tempered by the 
observation that an influx of new workers in the region comes with an 
influx in substantial social, economic, and environmental harms. Other 
commenters expressed skepticism that the economic benefits touted by 
the project would be realized and the concern that local employment 
could lead to increased outmigration by those employed once they have a 
steady income. Importantly, commenters voiced concerns that economic 
benefits, even if realized, will not outweigh the likely impacts of 
mining and road development.
    On the health front, potential benefits would come from 
socioeconomic improvements in household income and employment during 
active road construction and operation. Increased economic benefits may 
decrease the number of food-insecure households but could also change 
the use of traditional foods. BLM also heard concerns about the impacts 
the proposed road could have on subsistence and public health, 
including stress, subsistence-food insecurity, and potential exposure 
to toxins from the road, which would disproportionately negatively 
affect low-income and minority populations, specifically Alaska Native 
villages in and near the project area that depend on the surrounding 
area for their subsistence lifestyle.
    Question. What alternative economic development initiatives for the 
Upper Kobuk communities will you be pursing in light of this damaging 
recommendation?
    Answer. The Department of the Interior will continue to support 
economic development opportunities for the Upper Kobuk Region and 
throughout Alaska through our various bureaus and offices as funding 
from Congress allows.
    Question. A programmatic agreement was signed to execute the work 
under Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. This was 
intended to streamline and avoid duplicative work, but is instead being 
used to prevent any of the cultural work from moving forward.
    Interior is preventing AIDEA from doing work on private [State, 
NANA, and Doyon] lands--how is it ok for Interior to prevent a State 
agency from doing work on private lands? Do you expect that work 
prohibition to continue this summer?
    In the draft revision to the area of potential effect released 
earlier this year, the area that could potentially be impacted is 
growing from a 1-mile buffer on either side of the road to 10 miles. 
Why is there such a significant change? When do you expect the new 
programmatic agreement to be finalized?
    Interior is preventing AIDEA from doing work on private [State, 
NANA, and Doyon] lands--how is it ok for Interior to prevent a State 
agency from doing work on private lands? Do you expect that work 
prohibition to continue this summer?
    Answer. On July 11, 2024, the BLM sent a letter to Ambler Access 
Programmatic Agreement (PA) Signatories and Consulting Parties 
providing notice that the PA would be terminated in 30 days in light of 
the June 28, 2024, Record of Decision, which terminated the Federal 
undertaking.
    Question. In the draft revision to the area of potential effect 
released earlier this year, the area that could potentially be impacted 
is growing from a 1-mile buffer on either side of the road to 10 miles. 
Why is there such a significant change? When do you expect the new 
programmatic agreement to be finalized?
    Answer. The BLM reconsidered the project area of potential effects 
(APE) based on consulting party input, which included public and Tribal 
concerns. The proposed changes to the APE account for potential visual 
impacts to traditional cultural properties and other ethnographic 
resources not identified during the initial Section 106 review. The 
visual impact modeling takes into consideration a maximum 10 mile 
viewshed. The one-mile APE would remain for direct impacts to historic 
properties. AIDEA recently requested the BLM to suspend work on 
modifications to the PA, and thus it is unknown when those changes 
might be finalized. However, as noted above, the BLM has provided 
notice of termination for the PA.
    Question. Your Department has taken multiple actions that have a 
negative impact upon Inupiat people of the North Slope of Alaska. Has 
the Department conducted a full economic analysis of the cumulative 
impacts of those actions and the direct and indirect costs to the 
communities, Tribes and other Inupiat organizations? This includes 
working through the NEPA processes, consultations, and legal bills.
    Have you considered the cumulative negative impacts to providing 
basic infrastructure to communities of the North Slope Inupiat?
    How much taxpayer funding have you expended to deny economic 
stability, community infrastructure and limited access to subsistence 
resources for the North Slope Inupiat people?
    In the 1976 National Petroleum Reserve Production Act of 1976 
(NPRPA), did Congress intend for an oil and gas leasing program in the 
National Petroleum Reserve- Alaska (NPR-A)?
    When the NPRPA was passed was the land status for the Inupiat 
people of the Arctic Slope of Alaska and the State of Alaska settled 
and lands conveyed?
    Since you control the Bureau of Land Management, please provide the 
land status in the NPR-A at the time of passage of the NPRPA. In the 
report language for the NPRPA, did Congress recognize that the land 
pattern in the NPR-A was not settled and therefore, that the surface 
lands should be protected until the lands were conveyed to the 
appropriate indigenous people?
    Does it make sense that Congress would use language in the NPRPA 
for ``maximum surface protections'' until such time as the leasing 
program began and lands were conveyed?
    Did the Bureau of Land Management fail to conduct timely survey and 
conveyance of lands and stall the leasing program in the NPR-A, 
culminating in multiple laws to force the BLM to convey lands instead 
of creating de-facto wilderness? (i.e. 1981 Omnibus Appropriations Act, 
ANILCA, ALTAA, Tax Act of 2017)?
    Did Congress exempt the NPR-A from sections 203 and 602 of the 
Federal Land Management Policy Act (FLMPA)? Please explain how the 
Integrated Activity Plan process is different from sections 203 and 602 
of FLPMA as well as the process being used in the NPR-A rule.
    Given that there was an oil embargo when the NPRPA was passed and 
Congress was attempting to provide for national security, do you 
believe that Congress exempted FLPMA in the NPR-A to efficiently begin 
an oil exploration program anticipating as much production as soon as 
possible or to turn the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska into a de-
facto wilderness area?
    Is the Department of the Interior (DOI) using a few words in report 
language to completely change the intent of Congress for the NPR-A?
    Please describe the view of the Department regarding Congressional 
Intent for the NPR- A in the 1981 Omnibus Appropriations Act.
    Will all of the above considerations, how does the Department 
expect for the NPR-A rule to hold up to a legal challenge? Is the rule 
legally sufficient and do you have the legal opinion that supports it?
    Has the Department considered the totality of all the rule-makings, 
Environmental Impact Statements, Integrated Activity Plans, Biological 
Integrity and Environmental Health policies, wildlife connectivity 
corridors, on the Inupiat people of the Arctic Slope?
    Answer. Yes, the BLM conducted economic analyses for the proposed 
rule and the final rule. The analyses examined the incremental effect 
that the rule would have relative to the current management framework.
    The Naval Petroleum Reserves Production Act of 1976 (NPRPA), as 
amended, gives the Secretary three overarching mandates for managing 
the Reserve: (1) conduct an expeditious oil and gas exploration, 
leasing, and production program; (2) mitigate reasonably foreseeable 
and significantly adverse effects from those activities to the surface 
resources of the NPR-A; and (3) assure maximum protection for 
significant subsistence, recreational, fish and wildlife, historical, 
or scenic values in identified special areas of the NPR-A, to the 
extent consistent with the requirements for oil and gas exploration and 
development in the Reserve. Our team ensured the rulemaking process was 
robust, legal, and defensible.
    In 1976, when the NPRPA was passed, the processes established in 
the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA) and the Alaska 
Statehood Act for settling land status for the Inupiat people of the 
Arctic Slope of Alaska was well underway. Under ANCSA Section 12(a)(1), 
Village Corporations for each Native Village were required to identify 
their initial land selections by December 18, 1974. Similarly, under 
the Statehood Act, the State of Alaska was in the process of selecting 
its entitlement lands. Additionally, the BLM had begun to convey lands 
to the Alaska Native Village and Regional Corporations.
    Additionally, in the mid-1970s the ANCSA corporations were amending 
their selection applications and BLM was adjudicating the selection 
applications, identifying 17(b) easements to be reserved, and issuing 
decisions approving approximately 264,000 acres for conveyance.
    Within 9 months after the NPRPA was enacted, the BLM had conveyed 
approximately 3,224,000 acres. Details below:

  --11 June 1974--BIA issued final decision declaring Atqasuk to be 
        eligible for land and benefits under ANCSA.

  --11 June 1974--BIA issued final decision declaring Nuiqsut to be 
        eligible for land and benefits under ANCSA.

  --25 March 1975--Patent 50-75-0153 issued to Barrow/Utqiagvik for 
        2.80 acres.

  --18 March 1976--Decision issued approving approximately 154,000 
        acres for conveyance to Barrow/Utqiagvik.

  --18 March 1976--Decision issued approving approximately 110,000 
        acres for conveyance to Wainwright.

  --25 March 1976--Wainwright decision modified to delete approximately 
        5,000 acres.

  --05 April 1976--NPRPA enacted.

  --26 April 1976--Wainwright decision appealed.

  --12 May 1976--Wainwright appeal dismissed.

  --20 May 1976--Interim Conveyance No. 042 issued for approximately 
        105,000 acres to Wainwright.

  --27 August 1976--Decision issued approving approximately 1.5 million 
        acres for conveyance to the Arctic Slope Regional Commission 
        (ASRC).

  --17 September 1976--Decision approving approximately 1.4 million 
        acres for conveyance to ASRC.

  --16 November 1976--Decision issued approving approximately 66,000 
        acres for conveyance to Atqasuk.

  --19 November 1976--Interim Conveyance No. 045 issued for 
        approximately 153,000 acres to Barrow/Utqiagvik.

  --29 November 1976--Interim Conveyance Nos. 47 and 48 issued for a 
        combined total of 12.9 million acres to ASRC.

  --10 January 1977--Interim Conveyance No. 49 issued for approximately 
        66,000 acres to Atqasuk.

    The BLM is required by law to fulfill an approximately 105-million-
acre entitlement to the State of Alaska and an approximately 45-
million-acre entitlement to ANCSA corporations across the entire State 
of Alaska and is unaware of any intent within NPRPA to only provide for 
maximum surface protections of special areas until all entitlements 
have been fulfilled.
    As you can see from the above timeline, the BLM conducted the 
timely survey and conveyances to the Native Corporations within NPR-A 
under the legal constraints and processes created by ANCSA. The BLM has 
never intentionally held up the conveyance of those lands to prevent 
leasing or other activities within NPR-A.
    Question. The House Natural Resources Committee asked you Questions 
for the Record during a hearing in November 2023. You responded to the 
QFRs in February 2024 without providing specific details of your 
engagement with Tribes and communities. You simply stated that: ``the 
BLM presented project summaries- including renewing the invitation for 
Tribal consultation-twice to the NPR-A Working Group.
    Is the NPR-A Working Group a Tribe or an ANC?
    Answer. The NPR-A Working Group is neither a federally recognized 
Tribe nor an ANC. The NPR-A Working Group is an advisory body to the 
BLM established pursuant to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (5 
U.S.C. Appendix 1), the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 
(43 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.), as amended, and Section 2 of the 
Reorganization Plan No. 3 of 1950 (5 U.S.C. Appendix, as amended; 64 
Stat. 1262). The Working Group consists of representatives from North 
Slope local governments, Native corporations, and Tribal entities. The 
NPR-A Working Group provides a forum for North Slope communities to 
provide meaningful, regular input to on-going management decisions, 
proposed activities, and developments in the NPR-A. In response to 
comments and in consultation with local governments, Native 
corporations, and Tribal entities, the group was established by the 
February 2013 NPR-A Integrated Activity Plan/Environmental Impact 
Statement (IAP/EIS) Record of Decision.
    Question. Why would you use the NPR-A Working Group, as government 
to government engagement with Tribes and ANCs?
    Answer. We never characterized interactions with the NPR-A Working 
Group as meeting the requirements of government-to-government Tribal 
consultation or ANC consultation. We have used interactions with the 
group as an example of one of the many different ways we reach out to 
Tribes and ANCs for their input.
    Question. Are you attempting to cover your lack of engagement with 
the Inupiat Tribes and ANCs?
    To the contrary, there has been an abundance of engagement by the 
BLM and the Department with North Slope communities throughout this 
process. The Department is committed to strengthening relationships 
with Tribes and honoring our trust responsibilities. My team engaged 
extensively with Alaska North Slope communities prior to issuing the 
final NPR-A Rule. The following list of engagements was provided in 
that same February 2024 QFR response that you reference in your 
question--with the addition of two Working Group meetings, where we 
continued to invite Tribes and ANCs to consult.
    Before publishing the proposed NPR-A Rule, on August 25, 2023, the 
BLM invited 45 Tribes and 30 Alaska Native Corporations to engage in 
consultation via mail. Since the announcement of the proposed rule, we 
have continued to offer consultation via phone, email, and in-person 
invitations to the following: Native Village of Atqasuk; Atqasuk 
Corporation; Village of Wainwright; Olgoonik Corporation; Native 
Village of Nuiqsut; Kuukpik Corporation; Native Village of Barrow; 
Ukpeagvik Inupiat Corporation; Arctic Slope Regional Corporation 
(ASRC); and Inupiat Community of the Arctic Slope (ICAS).
    The BLM held the following consultation meetings on the NPR-A Rule:

  --November 1, 2023, in Nuiqsut: Native Village of Nuiqsut

  --November 3, 2023, in Utqiagvik: ICAS

  --November 21, 2023 (virtually via videoconference): Village of 
        Wainwright

  --December 19, 2023, in Anchorage: Olgoonik Corporation

  --December 21, 2023, in Anchorage: ASRC

  --February 6, 2024, (virtually via videoconference) ICAS

    The BLM held the following public meetings on the NPR-A Rule:

  --October 6, 2023--Public Information Session (virtually via 
        videoconference)

  --October 10, 2023--Public Information Session in Anchorage, Alaska

  --November 1, 2023--Public Comment Meeting in Nuiqsut (originally 
        scheduled for October 13, rescheduled due to weather)

  --November 2, 2023--Public Comment Meeting in Utqiagvik

  --Monday, November 6, 2023--Public Information Session (virtually via 
        videoconference)

  --December 4, 2023--Public Comment Meeting in Wainwright (originally 
        scheduled for November 3, rescheduled due to a death in the 
        community)

    In addition, BLM staff met with the NPR-A Working Group, consisting 
of representatives from North Slope local governments and Alaska Native 
Corporations and Tribes (intended to provide a forum for North Slope 
communities to provide input to management of the Reserve), to discuss 
the NPR-A Rule on the following dates:

  --September 26, 2023

  --October 17, 2023

  --December 1, 2023

  --February 13, 2024

  --March 14, 2024

  --April 9, 2024

    Finally, BLM and Department staff met with ICAS, the North Slope 
Borough (NSB), Voice of the Arctic Inupiat, and ASRC on September 21, 
2023 in Washington D.C. Acting Deputy Secretary Laura Daniel-Davis and 
BLM leadership met with representatives from ICAS, NSB, Voice of the 
Arctic Inupiat, ASRC, Olgoonik Corporation and Anaktuvuk Pass, and 
their lobbying representation in Washington D.C. on November 8, 2023, 
where they were joined by Representative Peltola.
    Question. You also stated: ``More recently, on August 25, 2023, the 
BLM invited 45 Tribes and 30 ANCs to engage in Tribal consultation 
regarding the proposed NPR-A rule''.
    You purport that a letter was mailed through the United States 
Postal Service on Friday August 25, 2023 to the Tribes and ANCs. The 
proposed rule was published on Wednesday, September 6, 2023. A total of 
8 working days.
    Your own Secretarial Order which was placed in Departmental Manual 
Part 512 Chapter 4 States: ``4.4 Policy. It is the policy of the 
Department to recognize and fulfill its legal obligations to identify, 
protect, and conserve Tribal trust resources; carry out its trust 
relationship with Federally recognized Tribes and Tribal members; and 
invite Tribes to consult on a government-to-government basis whenever 
there is a Departmental Action with Tribal Implications. All Bureaus 
and Offices shall make good-faith efforts to invite Tribes to consult 
early in the planning process and throughout the decision-making 
process and engage in robust, interactive, predecisional, informative, 
and transparent consultation when planning actions with Tribal 
implications. It is the policy of the Department to seek consensus with 
impacted Tribes in accordance with the Consensus- Seeking Model.
    Please share with us whether you believe that 8 working days is 
sufficient engagement with Tribes and ANCs in accordance with Executive 
Order 13175 (Consultation and Coordination with Indian Tribal 
Governments) and Departmental Manual 512 Chapter 4 which you signed on 
November 30, 2022.
    Answer. As noted in the responses to a-c, we have engaged with 
Tribes and ANCs within the NPR-A consistently and continuously since 
the August 25, 2023, letter--and we continue that engagement today. We 
have not declined any requests for consultation from a federally 
recognized Tribe or ANC. Further, while it is the Department's policy 
to engage in robust consultation with Alaska Native Tribes and ANCs and 
to seek consensus, it is not always possible to achieve consensus given 
the often-differing viewpoints involved.
    Question. You have stated under oath that the economic impact of 
the NPR-A is less than $100 million and therefore ``not significant'' 
nor will it affect current leases.
    With the expansion areas of ``Surface Occupancy'' for 
infrastructure, please explain how it is possible current leases will 
not be affected.
    Answer.The NPR-A Rule does not change any management provisions in 
the April 2022 NPR-A Integrated Activity Plan (IAP), which provides the 
current management direction for the Reserve, including for management 
of infrastructure. The rule recognizes valid existing rights and will 
be implemented in a manner that is consistent with the terms of current 
oil and gas leases in the NPR-A. Areas closed to leasing and new 
infrastructure under the current IAP remain closed, and conversely, 
areas open to leasing and new infrastructure under the current IAP 
remain open.
    Question. You included Mitigation Measure #27 in the Willow 
Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (Willow SDEIS). The NPR-A 
rule will negate that mitigation impacting existing leases and 
projects. Did you consider this in the economic analysis?
    Answer. Mitigation Measure #27 would preclude new oil and gas 
leasing and development in an area comprising Teshekpuk Lake and a band 
of land surrounding it, in a manner consistent with land use 
designations in the current IAP. The NPR-A Rule does not affect 
implementation of Measure #27.
    Question. Did the economic analysis include the Inupiat people and 
their communities in the Arctic Slope of Alaska?
    Answer. The BLM conducted an economic analysis for the proposed 
rule and made it available for public review and comment, along with 
the proposed rule. We received approximately 69 comments associated 
with the economic analysis--and addressed any issues raised in the 
preamble of the final rule. The economic analysis explains that the 
welfare effects of the rule include the increased protection of the 
ecological, subsistence, cultural, and other significant resource 
values. Additionally, the final rule establishes a framework that will 
protect and enhance access for subsistence activities throughout the 
Reserve.
    Question. On March 5, 12, 27, 28, and April 3, 2024, the Office of 
Regulatory Affairs heard from Tribes and Alaska Native Claims 
Settlement Act Corporations and Communities about the economic, social 
and cultural impacts to Inupiat people. In spite of that, you finalized 
the NPR-A rule, why didn't OIRA or the Department listen to their 
concerns?
    Answer. My team listened to their concerns--as well as feedback 
from the other organizations and industry who met with OIRA, from the 
consultation and public meetings listed in the response above, as well 
as from the more than 100,000 written comments we received during the 
robust 90-day public comment period.
    To reiterate, the NPR-A Rule does not change any management 
provisions in the April 2022 IAP. Areas closed to leasing and new 
infrastructure under the 2022 IAP Record of Decision remain closed, and 
conversely, areas open to leasing and new infrastructure under the 
current IAP remain open. The rule recognizes valid existing rights and 
will be implemented in a manner consistent with the terms of current 
oil and gas leases in the NPR-A. Under the rule, oil and gas leasing 
and development can still proceed, consistent with the 2022 IAP Record 
of Decision.
    Question. You have touted the NPR-A rule as a win for the 30X30 
initiative, in the America the Beautiful Report, a counter action to 
the approval of the Willow Master Development Plan, and a win for the 
environment. You stated under oath that the Department granted itself a 
categorical exclusion for the NPR-A rule under 43 CFR 46.210(i). The 
CFR reads as follows: on referrals of legislative proposals. (i) 
Policies, directives, regulations, and guidelines: that are of an 
administrative, financial, legal, technical, or procedural nature; or 
whose environmental effects are too broad, speculative, or conjectural 
to lend themselves to meaningful analysis and will later be subject to 
the NEPA process, either collectively or case-by-case.
    By giving yourself a categorical exclusion to the NEPA process for 
the NPR-A rule, but touting it as a major win for the environment, how 
can you cite the CFR stating that the rule is speculative, conjectural 
and too broad to lend itself to meaningful analysis?
    Answer. An action can have potentially beneficial environmental 
effects and still be categorically excluded. The Department often 
relies on the categorical exclusion listed at 43 CFR 46.210(i) for NEPA 
compliance when promulgating regulations that set forth procedures for 
taking action rather than regulations that approve specific management 
actions. The final NPR-A Rule is not self-executing, in that it does 
not result in immediate changes to management of any public lands, does 
not itself authorize any on-the-ground actions, and does not restrict 
the BLM's discretion to undertake or authorize future on-the-ground 
actions. The rule only modifies the standards and procedures for 
managing and protecting surface resources and Special Areas in the NPR-
A. It does not implement any management activities or alter any 
existing Special Areas within the NPR-A.
    The current IAP is the instrument that allocates land uses in the 
Reserve and includes oil and gas lease stipulations and infrastructure 
restrictions that apply to BLM authorizations in Special Areas and 
other areas throughout the Reserve. The rule codifies those current 
allocations, requires the BLM to maintain an IAP on an ongoing basis, 
and outlines a process for establishing, managing, and protecting the 
NPR-A's Special Areas. Any future change in management or authorization 
of on-the-ground activities would be subject to a separate decision- 
making process.
    Further, the rule would not directly result in any environmental 
effects. Any environmental impacts from this rulemaking would depend on 
BLM decisions implementing the rule, which would be fact-specific, 
making them too speculative or conjectural to lend themselves to 
meaningful analysis at the time the rule was issued. NEPA and other 
applicable environmental laws will apply on a case-by-case basis to 
those future Integrated Activity Plan level decisions and individual 
project-level decisions made pursuant to the processes established by 
the rule. As such, the rule is administrative and procedural in nature 
within the meaning of the Department's categorical exclusion, and no 
extraordinary circumstances are present that would prevent reliance on 
that categorical exclusion.
    Question. How does BLM have authority to manage or regulate lands 
in the NPR-A under the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA)? 
Where in the law is Interior--or BLM--authorized to manage NPR-A under 
FLPMA?
    Answer. FLPMA applies to all lands managed by the BLM unless 
otherwise provided by law. (see 43 U.S.C. 1702(e); 43 U.S.C. 1732). The 
1980 amendment [Sec. 6506a(c)] to the NPRPA States only that FLPMA 
sections 202 and 603 (43 U.S.C sections 1712 and 1782) shall not be 
applicable to the Reserve, meaning that the NPR-A is exempt from the 
land use planning and wilderness study provisions in FLPMA. The 
remainder of FLPMA applies to the BLM's management of NPR-A. See, for 
example, Pub. L. 98-366, Sec. 4(a), July 17, 1984, 98 Stat. 470--which 
specifically directs the BLM to manage rights-of-way within the NPR-A 
under Title V of FLPMA.
    Question. When is BLM going to hold the next lease sale in the NPR-
A? Will BLM offer lease blocks in Special Areas?
    Answer. There are no lease sales currently planned for the NPR-A. 
For future lease sales the BLM could offer lease tracts in those 
portions of Special Areas that are available for leasing under the 
then-applicable IAP. The BLM would determine which tracts to offer in 
future lease sales based on tract nominations from industry and public 
comments submitted during the call for nominations and comment process 
for specific sales.
    Question. The new NPR-A rule adds new processes and decisions that 
BLM must undertake and make when permitting activity in the NPR-A. Did 
BLM perform any analysis of the added time and cost for permitting 
activities in the NPR-A as a consequence of the new rule?
    Answer. Yes, as detailed in the economic analysis for the final 
NPR-A Rule, while the rule alters the procedural steps needed to change 
management of oil and gas activity within Special Areas in the future, 
it does not substantially affect the permitting requirements, including 
a public process, consultation, and appropriate NEPA analysis.
    Question. If an existing leaseholder proposes a new development in 
a Special Area, does the new rule's presumption against new 
infrastructure in Special Areas apply?
    Answer. The presumption will apply. However, the rule recognizes 
valid existing rights and will be implemented in a manner that is 
consistent with the terms of current oil and gas leases in the NPR-A. 
The current IAP allocates land uses in the Reserve and includes oil and 
gas lease stipulations and infrastructure restrictions that apply to 
BLM authorizations in Special Areas and other areas throughout the 
Reserve. The rule only codified these allocations, and it did not 
change the management allocations outlined in the current IAP or change 
them going forward.
    Similarly, the rule did not modify the terms of existing leases. 
The application of the presumption must be consistent with the terms of 
an existing lease.
    Question. Does BLM believe there will be no socio-economic 
consequences to Alaska Native communities as a result of this new rule?
    Answer. As described in the economic analysis for the final NPR-A 
Rule, this rule incorporates aspects of the 2022 IAP, which is the 
current management framework for the NPR- A and forms the baseline for 
the economic analysis. Compared to the baseline, there is either no, or 
minimal, change in oil and gas management or projected socio-economic 
impacts as a result of the rule. The rule will not alter the terms of 
existing leases and will have no effect on currently authorized oil and 
gas operations in the NPR-A, or future operations authorized consistent 
with the terms of valid existing leases. The rule establishes a 
framework for future decision-making processes that would result in 
management changes, such as requiring the BLM to maintain an IAP, which 
guides on-the-ground management and which could be updated in the 
future through a NEPA process, and establishing the process by which 
Special Areas would be designated, de- designated, or modified in the 
future. These future decision-making processes will require a public 
process, consultation, and appropriate NEPA analysis at that time.
    Question. The new rule purports to give BLM new authority to deny 
or delay activities when there is ``uncertainty'' about the effects? 
Please define and clarify the types of ``uncertainty'' that could cause 
BLM to delay or deny an action under the new rule? Does 
``uncertainty,'' as used in the new rule, include uncertainty about 
potential climate change impacts
    Answer. Considering uncertainty is a standard practice for any 
Federal agency that completes NEPA analysis. Agencies are required to 
use high quality information and science and data when conducting their 
analysis. To the extent there are uncertainties, current regulations in 
40 CFR 1502.21(a) address incomplete or unavailable information and 
state, ``When an agency is evaluating reasonably foreseeable 
significant adverse effects on the human environment in an 
environmental impact statement, and there is incomplete or unavailable 
information, the agency shall make clear that such information is 
lacking.'' The text in the regulation builds on the language in the 
NEPA regulations to require more specific discussion of how the BLM is 
taking uncertainties into account in making decisions, which is within 
the BLM's authority and beneficial in light of the rapidly changing 
conditions in the Arctic.
    Question. Under what statutory authority does BLM believe it can 
require compensatory mitigation for permitted activities in the NPR-A?
    Answer. The BLM Mitigation Policy establishes consistent principles 
and procedures for considering and implementing mitigation early in its 
decision-making processes to address reasonably foreseeable impacts to 
resources and their values, services and/or functions. The BLM takes a 
landscape-scale approach to mitigation, utilizing best management 
practices, ensuring that mitigation measures are durable, monitoring 
mitigation measures for compliance and effectiveness, and adaptively 
managing mitigation measures. Principal authorities that relate to or 
authorize mitigation by the BLM include: the Federal Land Policy and 
Management Act (FLPMA), the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), 
and the Endangered Species Act, among others. For activities in the 
NPR-A, the NPRPA, as amended, provides additional authority to require 
mitigation, both within and outside Special Areas. Depending on the 
type of permitted activity within the NPR-A and potential impacts, 
FLPMA, the NPRPA, and ESA may potentially authorize compensatory 
mitigation.
    Question. Under the rule, could BLM require compensatory mitigation 
for the estimated GHG-emissions associated with a new activity? Could 
mitigation or restoration leases be required as forms of compensatory 
mitigation for projects within the NPR-A. If so, would those mitigation 
or restoration leases required to also be within the NPR-A?
    Answer. Compensatory mitigation for residual impacts is warranted 
when required to (1) comply with law, regulation, and policy, (2) 
achieve objectives in a resource management plan--or for the NPR-A in 
an IAP, or (3) conserve important, scarce, or sensitive resources. The 
BLM generally considers compensatory mitigation measures only after 
considering and seeking to address impacts through avoidance and 
minimization measures.
    Under the rule and applicable policy, the BLM will identify the 
impacts to which mitigation measures relate and explain how the 
measures avoid, minimize, or compensate for these impacts.
    Neither this rule nor the Public Lands Rule contemplate the BLM 
requiring use of mitigation or restoration leases.
    Question. Please provide this committee with a list of meetings in 
which staff from either the Office of the Secretary, the Office of the 
Deputy Secretary, the office of the Assistant Secretary for Land and 
Minerals Management, or the Office of the Bureau of Land Management met 
with groups not affiliated with the Department of the Interior, or the 
Federal Government, excluding federally recognized Tribes or Alaska 
Native Corporations, in which this rule was discussed.
    Answer. The BLM held an extensive 90-day comment period on the 
proposed NPR-A Rule which included 6 public meetings and generated 
100,000 public comments from citizens, non- governmental organizations, 
advocacy groups, government including States and local governments, 
industry, recognized Tribes and Alaska Native Corporations. The 
Department did respond to public comments received on the proposed rule 
(88 FR 62025) and those comment responses can be found in the published 
final rule (89 FR 38712). The Department did not track or compile a 
list of meetings in which the rule was or may have been discussed and 
would have difficulty supplying such information.
    Question. President Biden stated that the new NPR-A rule was issued 
``to honor the culture, history, and enduring wisdom of Alaska Natives 
who have lived on and stewarded these lands since time immemorial.'' 
How do you reconcile that statement with the fact that almost all 
Tribal governments, villages, and other entities representing Alaska 
Natives on Alaska's North Slope vigorously opposed the rule?
    Answer. We are listening to all voices across the North Slope. For 
these projects, we have met with Tribes, ANCs, and local governments as 
well as with members of these communities. There are multiple 
perspectives and multiple voices in the region. Our directive under the 
NPRPA is to manage the NPR-A in a manner that will balance exploration 
for and development of oil and gas resources with protecting 
subsistence, recreational, fish and wildlife, historical, scenic, and 
other values that are important to subsistence users and Native 
communities in the Arctic. That is what we are doing.
    Question. Did BLM perform any analysis of how reduced leasing and 
development caused by the new NPR-A rule will affect the critical tax 
bases of the communities on Alaska's North Slope?
    Answer. As described in the economic analysis, the final NPR-A Rule 
incorporates aspects of the 2022 IAP, which is the current management 
framework for the NPR-A and forms the baseline for the economic 
analysis. Compared to the baseline, the economic analysis demonstrates 
that there is either no, or minimal, change in oil and gas management 
or projected tax bases as a result of the rule. The rule will not alter 
the terms of existing leases and will have no effect on currently 
authorized oil and gas operations in the NPR-A. The rule establishes a 
framework for future decision-making processes that would result in 
management changes, such as requiring the BLM to maintain an IAP, which 
guides on-the-ground management and which could be updated in the 
future through a NEPA process, and establishing the process by which 
Special Areas would be designated, de-designated, or modified in the 
future. These future decision- making processes will require a public 
process, consultation, and appropriate NEPA analysis at that time.
    Question. BLM recently announced its final Conservation and 
Landscape Health rule. This rule is remarkably similar to the BLM 2.0 
regulation I helped nullify in 2017: it upends decades of BLM precedent 
by administratively elevating conservation and mitigation into the 
definitions of multiple use under FLPMA. While I find this rule 
misguided for multiple reasons, I'm also concerned that BLM did not 
adequately understand the budgetary impacts that this rule will require 
on Departmental offices, in particular from the Appraisal and Valuation 
Services Office, and that it will cause all land management conveyances 
across land management agencies to slow to a crawl.
    The rule States that ``informed planning, permitting, and program 
decisions rest on the agency's ability to assess land health conditions 
and consider those conditions when making decisions.'' To gather 
landscape health assessments, the rule requires BLM to conduct 
watershed condition assessments and land health evaluations at least 
every 10 years.
    Question. Do you have any idea of the cost or the amount of time it 
would take BLM to conduct a landscape health assessment for all BLM 
lands in Alaska?
    Answer. The BLM envisions that watershed condition assessments will 
be completed using existing assessment, inventory, and monitoring (AIM) 
and remotely sensed data. This assessment would be supplemented with 
locally relevant data by field offices in Alaska to conduct land health 
evaluations on BLM managed lands. Implementing these requirements of 
the Public Lands Rule will occur over the course of several years, and 
the BLM anticipates that it can be done with existing resources.
    Question. Does BLM have this data on record, or would they be 
starting from scratch in Alaska?
    Answer. Much of this data already exists, and the BLM would not be 
starting from scratch in Alaska.
    Question. If this information is not available and BLM is unable to 
incorporate watershed condition assessments or land health evaluations 
in their decision making, is a BLM resource office compelled to get 
that information before they are able to make a decision on a project?
    Answer.43 CFR 6103.1.2(c) provides that the BLM must consider 
available watershed condition assessments and land health evaluations 
when it makes land management and use decisions; there is no 
requirement to complete additional assessments or evaluations prior to 
making a land use decision.
    Question. How is the value of a restoration lease calculated?
    Answer.43 CFR 6102.4(j) provides that rent for restoration and 
mitigation leases will be calculated in the same manner as for land use 
authorizations issued under 43 CFR part 2920. That provision also 
provides that restoration leases are eligible for a rent or fee waiver 
if they are not used to generate revenue or satisfy the requirements of 
a mitigation program and the restoration lease will enhance ecological 
or cultural resources or provide a benefit to the public.
    Question. According to a congressional staff briefing, the 
Department will rely on the AVSO office to determine the value of a 
restoration or mitigation lease. Do you have any idea of the current 
backlog of the AVSO?
    Answer. The BLM does not anticipate needing to consult AVSO on a 
regular basis to determine fair market value of a restoration or 
mitigation lease, and so has not evaluated a potential backlog.
    Question. Does your FY2025 budget request incorporate additional 
funding for the AVSO in anticipation of its increased expected 
workloads as a result of this rule?
    Answer. No, the BLM does not anticipate a significant increase in 
workload for AVSO as a result of this rule.
    Question. Can you commit to me that BLM will not delay a single 
decision in Alaska due to a lack of information regarding watershed 
condition assessments or land health evaluations or funding for the 
offices responsible for carrying out this burdensome rule?
    Answer. The BLM does not expect that implementation of the rule 
will be unduly burdensome or result in delays of decisions. The BLM has 
prioritized its data collection efforts in ways that ensure decisions 
are made in a timely manner and based on the best available science and 
information. The Public Lands Rule is consistent with and improves upon 
this approach, supporting the BLM's continued development of tools, 
like watershed condition assessments, that support informed management 
decisions.
    Question. Public Law 108-452; the Alaska Land Transfer Acceleration 
Act required the Secretary of the Interior to provide congress a report 
to reviewing the remaining withdrawals pursuant to section 17(d)(1) of 
ANCSA and determine if their withdrawal is still needed to protect the 
public interest in those lands. This report was provided in 2006 and 
refreshed again in 2019. The report notes that was prepared with public 
notice and its recommendations are to be ``consistent with the 
protection of the public interest in these lands,'' and concludes that 
``there are a total of 158,958,000 acres of d-1 withdrawals in Alaska. 
Approximately 152,181,400 acres or 95% of these withdrawals could be 
lifted consistent with the protection of the public's interest.''
    Why after more than a decade's worth of work from the Alaska BLM 
team going back to 2013, when this process kicked off, did the Bureau 
of Land Management publish a final SEIS that did not recommend lifting 
any of the public land orders?
    Answer. After careful consideration, final SEIS recommends a 
partial revocation of the ANCSA 17(d)(1) withdrawals within the Central 
Yukon Planning Area for the limited purpose of allowing Alaska Native 
Vietnam-era veterans to select allotments under Section 1119 of the 
Dingell Act, but to otherwise stay withdrawn. The Proposed RMP/FEIS 
determined that it is in the public interest to continue the protection 
afforded by the ANCSA 17(d)(1) withdrawals for the majority of the 
lands in the planning area, particularly with regards to ensuring 
subsistence access and maintenance of subsistence resources.
    Question. What is necessary in your view to lift the remaining 
17(d)(1) withdrawals and why was it not done in the Central Yukon RMP?
    Answer. Per the previous answer, revoking the 17(d)(1) withdrawals 
has the potential for significant social, economic, and environmental 
impacts--including impacts to Federal subsistence users who would lose 
their Federal subsistence priority if State top-filings become 
effective State selections.
    Question. Year after year, we hear testimony about strained budgets 
and how that impacts the agency's ability to undertake certain work. In 
2020 the cost of the Draft SEIS was estimated to be $5.1 million. So, 
on top of that investment, an additional three and a half years of work 
under this administration produced a product that still failed to meet 
the basic intent of a 20 year-old law.
    Answer. The Central Yukon Proposed RMP and Final EIS, released on 
April 19, 2024, reflects public input and discussion and input from 
Tribes, cooperating agencies, and stakeholders collected over more than 
a decade, and balances development, recreational access, and resource 
protection, with an emphasis on landscape connectivity and protection 
of subsistence resources. After being informed by additional input 
received during the 30- day protest period and 60-day Governor's 
consistency review, the BLM anticipates issuing a Record of Decision 
later this year that fully complies with all applicable laws.
    Question. I have heard that BLM intends to restart this process as 
soon as it's finished because this past summer progress has been made 
with the state of Alaska on the PLO 5150. Is this correct?
    Answer. Over the last year, the BLM and DNR have been engaged in 
regular conversations about the State's request to partially revoke PLO 
5150 and the public process BLM would use to consider the DNR's 
request. BLM appreciates the collaborative spirit that DNR has brought 
to those discussions and the commitment they have shown to negotiating 
a solution that works for all stakeholders.
    The BLM is taking the time we need to thoughtfully develop the 
5150-project proposal. The effort's success depends upon taking the 
time needed to engage Tribes, subsistence users and stakeholders in 
that work. It will also require deep engagement of the Bureau and the 
Department.
    Question. Please provide an accounting of the total cost to produce 
the Central Yukon RMP and an estimate for the future work associated 
with restarting the process, if applicable.
    Answer. The total cost of the Central Yukon RMP EIS process to date 
is $6.7 million dollars, with an estimated cost of $87,000 to publish 
the Record of Decision. Any additional effort aimed at analyzing a 
recommendation to revoke or partially revoke a withdrawal would involve 
a separate NEPA process tiered to a Final RMP/EIS. The BLM does not yet 
have a cost estimate for this additional process, but that will be 
evaluated along with considerations of schedules and workload 
priorities, among other variables.
    Question. The additional ACECs in this plan are extremely 
problematic in the way that they are purposely intended to block off 
huge swaths of land that will create additional land management 
challenges, issues for subsistence access, and make regional economic 
development plans challenging and more expensive. How did your 
department coordinate with the State and regional entities to ensure 
that this proposed RMP does not interfere with state or regional 
infrastructure development projects, most notably broadband?
    Answer. Areas of critical environmental concern (ACECs) are public 
lands where special management is needed to protect important resources 
and unique scenic landscapes, or to protect people and property from 
hazards. The designation is unique to FLPMA and allows the BLM to 
conserve important and relevant resource values through tailored, site- 
specific management. The purpose of the ACECs in the Central Yukon 
Proposed RMP is to provide management prescriptions for lands and 
resources that are critical to the existence or health of various 
natural and cultural resources. There are very limited circumstances in 
which designation of an ACEC would prevent subsistence use and none 
exist in the Central Yukon planning area. In fact, most of the ACECs in 
the proposed RMP are associated with preserving critical subsistence 
resource habitat. In some cases, ACECs contain ROW or mineral 
development avoidance or exclusion zones that would need to be 
accounted for while analyzing future land use applications, but the 
Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act section 1323(b) 
guarantees reasonable access to non-federally owned land surrounded by 
public lands. As most implementation-level decisions are discretionary, 
the BLM works with applicants to identify locations and means of access 
that accommodate the applicants' needs while protecting ACEC values.
    Question. According to DOI's website, ``the DOI International 
Technical Assistance Program works with partners around the world to 
build technical capacity on energy and minerals governance"-and, 
through the Mineral Security Partnership, among other activities, it is 
no secret that this administration is pushing other nations to produce 
minerals for the U.S. to import.
    Answer. Since 2010, the U.S. Department of State's (DOS) Bureau of 
Energy Resources (ENR) has paid the Department of the Interior's 
International Technical Assistance Program (DOI-ITAP) to provide 
procurement services and technical expertise to counterparts in foreign 
governments on issues particular to DOI's areas of expertise, including 
oversight of mineral resource extraction.
    Under these contracted work agreements, State identifies countries 
that currently extract or plan to extract mineral resources to receive 
DOI technical assistance. Projects aim to help develop governmental 
capacity to effectively regulate and manage the extractive activity. In 
some cases, a DOI contractor provided economic or geologic analyses to 
inform resource development decision-making and support the 
implementation of sound, effective regulations. Such support ensures 
that recipient countries will develop rules that encourage 
participation by responsible operators, thus levelling the playing 
field for mineral-producing countries.
    Question. Please list all foreign governments DOI is currently 
engaged with, or has previously engaged with during this 
administration, on mining or mineral development-including engagement 
on best practices and methods to attract investment in those nations' 
resource sectors.
    Answer. At the direction of State, DOI's ITAP has engaged with 
Argentina, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Fiji, Greenland, 
Indonesia, Mongolia, Philippines, Vietnam, Zambia. DOI employees 
participate(d) in projects with Argentina, Greenland, and Indonesia.
    Question. Please list all minerals that DOI has sought to help 
develop, or provided guidance on, in foreign nations during this 
administration.
    Answer. At the direction of State, DOI provided guidance regarding 
lithium and contracted with commercial vendors to address topics 
related to nickel, rare earth elements, and copper.
    Question. Please describe how DOI has worked with Indonesia on to 
help develop foreign supplies of nickel that could be imported into the 
United States. Please provide specific topics and areas of engagement.
    Answer. At the direction of State, the ITAP procured technical 
consulting services in 2021 to advise Indonesia's Ministry of Energy 
and Mineral Resources (MEMR) on topics related to mineral exploration, 
extraction, tailings disposal, mine closure, and land reclamation. A 
contractor provided this expertise, and the project concluded in 
September 2023. The information was included in a contractor-drafted 
report detailing best practices for mining oversight from various 
jurisdictions around the world.
    Question. Why is DOI proactively encouraging the growth and 
development of other countries' mining sectors instead of addressing 
inefficiencies in U.S. permitting processes for domestic mines, which 
would produce the same minerals under higher environmental and labor 
standards?
    Answer. The work directed by the Department of State's Bureau of 
Energy Resources prioritizes engagements according to foreign policy 
considerations, consultation with embassies, and decision-making 
processes internal to the agency.
    Question. Why is DOI prioritizing engagement with countries that 
take non-market actions- including, in the case of Indonesia, export 
bans-to undermine U.S. competitiveness and risk our supply chain 
security? Are you aware that some of these countries DOI is engaged 
with, like Indonesia, have documented deep connections with the Chinese 
Communist Party (CCP), which exerts control over their mining sector?
    Answer. DOI continues its efforts to implement the recommendations 
published by the Interior-led Interagency Working Group on Mining Laws, 
Regulations, and Permitting (IWG) to improve the way mining is 
conducted on U.S. public lands. The IWG's final report is informing 
efforts to modernize the Mining Law of 1872 and related Federal 
permitting processes to increase domestic supplies of critical minerals 
and uphold the strongest environmental, labor, and community engagement 
standards. To further support timely permitting and development of 
these minerals in an environmentally responsible manner, the 2025 BLM 
budget request also proposes a $3.0 million increase (fully offset by 
mine claim holding fees) to enhance BLM's capacity to review notices 
and review and approve mining plans of operations, as well as to 
implement recommendations from the IWG.
    Question. Is DOI as actively engaged in prioritizing efficient 
development and permitting at home for copper, cobalt, nickel, 
graphite, and other mining projects across the U.S. as it is overseas?
    Answer. All work related to minerals carried out by ITAP is funded 
by the State Department through Interagency Agreements and includes 
occasional limited time from DOI bureaus to describe U.S. oversight 
practices, for example. This State Department funded work leverages the 
U.S. experience to illustrate how other countries can involve local 
communities in developing mining plans, and implement high labor and 
environmental standards and is separate from work accomplished by DOI 
bureaus domestically with DOI appropriations.
    Earlier this year, the United State Geological Survey (USGS) 
launched CriticalMinerals.gov on behalf of the White House Office of 
Science and Technology Policy-led National Science and Technology 
Council's Critical Minerals subcommittee. The USGS leads the 
development of a list of critical minerals that are essential to the 
U.S. economy and national security, conducts assessment of the 
potential for critical minerals in the ground, and conducts critical 
minerals supply chain forecasting. Most recently, USGS announced $4.25 
million of Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) funding for geospatial 
mapping projects across the Kuskokwim Mountains (Alaska) and $10.0 
million of BIL funding for State geologic, geochemical mapping projects 
through the Earth Mapping Resources Initiative to locate critical 
minerals.
    Question. On May 6, my delegation colleagues and I sent a letter 
urging DOI to reconsider the Fish and Wildlife Service's (FWS) proposed 
BIDEH rule. I do not believe any one-size-fits- all rule is appropriate 
for Alaska, expect this rule to impact virtually every refuge in 
Alaska, and believe it is unlawful under multiple Federal statutes. As 
part of our letter, we urged FWS to engage in consultation with both 
the State of Alaska as well as Tribes and Alaska Natives on the impacts 
of this rule prior to moving forward with it.
    Why did FWS not engage in consultation with Alaska Native and 
American Indian Tribes and State governments that are affected by the 
proposed rule, which would alter refuge management and introduce new 
restrictions on permissible refuge uses?
    Answer. Before publishing the proposed Biological Integrity, 
Diversity, and Environmental Health (BIDEH) regulations and policy 
updates (BIDEH proposal) in the Federal Register, the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS) conducted proactive outreach to State and Tribal 
partners.
    In accordance with 601 FW 7, Coordination and Cooperative Work with 
State Fish and Wildlife Agencies, FWS proactively sought the input of 
State fish and wildlife agency representatives. Over the past year, the 
FWS met multiple times with State agency representatives, including 
from the States of Alaska, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Florida, as well as 
the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, to engage on pre-
publication drafts. This engagement process generated robust discussion 
of the proposed policy updates and regulations, included question and 
answer sessions, and resulted in FWS' incorporation of pertinent 
comments on the draft proposal.
    In accordance with 510 FW 1, the FWS' Native American Policy, and 
Director's Order 227, Fulfilling Trust Responsibility to Tribes and the 
Native Hawaiian Community (NHC) and Other obligations to Alaska Native 
Corporations (ANC) and Alaska Native Organizations (ANO), in the 
Stewardship of Federal Lands and Waters, the FWS also sought the input 
of Tribes, ANCs, ANOs and the NHC. Comments received from Tribal 
partners were incorporated into the draft, as appropriate.
    During the 90-day public comment period on the proposed rule and 
policy updates, the FWS provided two government-to-government 
consultation opportunities specifically for Alaska Tribal Governments 
and Alaska Native Corporations and offered additional opportunities for 
one-on-one consultations. The FWS will consider the input from these 
Tribal consultations, as well as all feedback received during the 
public comment period, in considering any next steps.
    Question. We also urged FWS to complete an analysis of applicable 
Federal laws implicated by this rule and to assess whether the 
prohibition on predator control in Alaska refuges is barred by a prior 
act of Congress (Pub. Law No. 115-20).
    Answer. In consultation with the Department of the Interior's 
Office of the Solicitor prior to drafting the BIDEH proposal, the FWS 
determined there was no conflict with Public Law 115-20.
    Question. How is the proposed rule's prohibition of ``predator 
control'' on national refuges not in conflict with Pub. Law 115-20, 
which Congress passed in 2017 abrogating a prior FWS rule prohibiting 
``predator control'' in all national wildlife refuges in Alaska?
    Answer. The predator control provisions in the BIDEH proposal do 
not conflict with Public Law 115- 20, which nullified the 2016 rule 
entitled ``Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation 
and Closure Procedures on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska'' under 
the Congressional Review Act (CRA). Rather, the predator control 
provisions in the BIDEH rule accord with CRA requirements that prohibit 
reissuance of any rule in substantially the same form or issuance of a 
new rule that is substantially the same in the future. The predator 
control provisions under the BIDEH proposal are substantially different 
from the rescinded 2016 rule in a variety of ways, including scope, 
framework, standard and process for application, as well as definition, 
exceptions, evaluation requirements, and potential effects.
    Question. Does the proposed rule conform with the unique Federal 
laws governing refuges in Alaska, such as the Alaska National Interest 
Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA)?
    Answer. The proposed BIDEH rule was reviewed by the Office of the 
Solicitor for sufficiency and conformity with Federal laws governing 
national wildlife refuges in Alaska, including the Alaska National 
Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA).
    Question. Has FWS conducted an evaluation assessing the Proposed 
Rule's compliance with ANILCA, the Alaska Statehood Act, and the 
Congressional Review Act? If not, please conduct such a review and 
provide it to my office prior to taking any further action on this 
rule.
    Answer. Yes. During this rulemaking process, FWS coordinated with 
the DOI Office of the Solicitor to evaluate the proposed rule's 
compliance with ANILCA, the CRA, and other pertinent State and Federal 
laws.
    Question. Why does this rulemaking not trigger NEPA and require 
analysis under that statute?
    Answer. As indicated in the Federal Register notice for the BIDEH 
proposal, FWS has determined that the proposal is covered by a 
categorical exclusion in compliance with the National Environmental 
Policy Act (NEPA). Under the proposed rule, FWS actions would be 
determined at the individual refuge level and their environmental 
impacts assessed on a case- by-case basis. Therefore, the environmental 
impacts of the proposal are too speculative to lead to meaningful 
analysis at this time, qualifying the proposal for a categorical 
exclusion. FWS would assess the environmental impact of any potential 
management action mentioned in the proposed regulations prior to taking 
that action on National Wildlife Refuge System (Refuge System) lands 
and waters.
    Question. I am also seeking to understand how this rulemaking will 
impact the status quo for recreational hunting programs in Alaska and 
throughout the United States.
    Answer. FWS anticipates the BIDEH proposal will benefit 
recreational hunting opportunities on national wildlife refuges by 
improving ecosystem health, increasing climate resilience, and support 
robust wildlife populations across the Refuge System, thereby 
contributing to higher quality recreational experiences.
    Question. How will refuge managers apply the exception excluding 
subsistence and recreational hunting or fishing from the rule's 
definition of ``predator control''?
    Answer. The predator control provisions in the BIDEH proposal 
contain explicit sideboards to ensure compatible recreational hunting 
and fishing opportunities and subsistence uses continue on national 
wildlife refuges. The evaluation of whether actions or programs qualify 
as predator control would continue to occur through context specific 
analysis during refuge management planning, NEPA, and compatibility 
determinations, as appropriate and consistent with the current, 
existing process that all refuges should follow. The definition of, and 
exceptions to, predator control would assist refuge managers in guiding 
such analysis. For example, the proposed predator control provisions 
specifically exempt compatible, refuge-approved taking of fish and 
wildlife for subsistence uses under Federal or State subsistence 
regulations, as well as compatible, refuge-approved recreational 
hunting and fishing opportunities on the refuge. In this manner, refuge 
managers will continue to provide for hunting, fishing, wildlife 
observation, photography, environmental education, interpretation, and 
subsistence, which are priority public uses enshrined in Refuge System 
law.
    Question. Are state-authorized hunting or fishing opportunities 
entirely outside the definition of ``predator control'' or will refuge 
managers conduct a preliminary evaluation to assess if such 
opportunities are ``disguised'' forms of predator control?
    Answer. Please see the response to question 23h above.
    Question. In determining whether hunting or fishing opportunities 
are ``compatible uses,'' will refuge managers need to first assess if 
those activities are forms of predator control?
    Answer. No. Under the BIDEH proposal, refuge managers would not 
conduct a separate assessment of hunting and fishing opportunities to 
determine whether they qualify as predator control.
    Question. Under the Inflation Reduction Act, the Department of 
Interior received $150 million to accelerate environmental reviews and 
authorizations by the Department's bureaus. (see IRA section 50303). 
The Department has obligated $58 million in funds through FY24, with at 
least $90 million in remaining budget authority that must be used 
before the funds expire in FY2026.
    Has the $62 million in obligated funds by the Department improved 
permitting timelines in any meaningful way for project applicants?
    Answer. Section 50303 of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) provides 
funding to facilitate timely and efficient environmental reviews and 
authorizations by the National Park Service, the Bureau of Land 
Management, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, the Bureau of 
Reclamation, the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement, and 
the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement. Under Section 
50303, the Department allocated roughly $43.0 million to the U.S. Fish 
and Wildlife Service (FWS), primarily to facilitate consultation under 
the Endangered Species Act and permitting under migratory bird 
statutes. These funds have enabled the bureau to hire dedicated staff 
to facilitate environmental reviews for Department of the Interior 
(DOI) bureaus.
    Supported by the IRA 50303 funds, FWS is developing Offshore Wind 
Development Guidance, best management practices guidance for the 
improvement of broadband services, and a geographic information system 
and web map tracker for wind energy development projects in California. 
The Service hired dedicated positions in high workload offices around 
the country, including West Virginia, to facilitate consultations. 
Examples of larger projects the Service has completed include complex 
reviews related to Abandoned Mine Land reclamation grants provided 
through the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement; and 
the Department's significant efforts to address ongoing drought 
conditions and protect the Colorado River System
    A portion of the Section 50303 funding provided to the FWS is 
dedicated to enhance and modernize the FWS' Information for Planning 
and Consultation (IPaC) system to expedite environmental reviews for 
DOI bureaus. IPaC serves an external user base that is growing by about 
1,000 users a month (82,000 users as of May 2024). DOI partners are 
increasing their users of the IPaC system and expediting their 
consultations as a result. Current trends are on track to outpace the 
165,582 streamlined consultation documents IPaC delivered in fiscal 
year 2023 and the reviews of DOI bureau projects have similarly 
increased. Section 50303 funding is being used to improve IPaC's 
functionality to reduce the time to complete consultation for 
qualifying projects. Bureaus and other partners using IPaC have saved a 
substantial amount of time by being able to obtain documents directly 
in a matter of minutes. FWS conservatively estimates that in generating 
the more than 600,000 documents issued by IPaC in the last 5 fiscal 
years, the system saved over 200,000 hours (100 FTE) work of staff 
time. FWS expects further improvements once the new IPaC functionality 
is in place.
    In May, the FWS implemented its first 'automated' or 'self-service' 
permit in ePermits which was a general eagle incidental take permit 
resulting from recent rulemaking. With this new permit, applicants can 
apply, pay fees, and receive their permits fully online and in real 
time, without any up-front review by a FWS permit specialist. In the 
first month that the general eagle permit was available to the public, 
the FWS issued nearly 50 wind energy permits, far more than are 
typically issued in a month. The FWS used IRA 50303 funding to develop 
the necessary system requirements for ePermits to implement this 
innovative and expeditious approach to permitting.
    Question. Notably, FWS was not included in the IRA legislative text 
even though FWS can be a severe bottleneck for permit approvals. Has 
the department transferred any funds to FWS to accelerate permits? If 
so, what is the status of these funds?
    Answer. FWS received $42.9 million in IRA funds transferred from 
the bureaus identified in the legislation to work on projects. Of these 
funds, FWS receivied $19.9 million to support regional ESA section 7 
consultations for DOI projects. These funds will support dedicated 
staff to improve the environmental review process on DOI's IRA 
projects, including dedicated positions to support the heavy 
environmental review workload in West Virginia and work associated with 
the Colorado River initiative.
    The bureau transferred IRA funds included $11.9 million to enable 
FWS to improve the IPaC System to better support the permitting needs 
of the bureaus specified in Section 50303. As described earlier, this 
includes modernizing and improving IPaCto expand consultation 
streamlining, including features such as the ability to interact with a 
FWS biologist and request consultation directly through IPaC.
    FWS also received $10.9 million of the transferred IRA section 
50303 funds to address migratory bird permitting and reviews. As of 
May, FWS had obligated $3.0 million for these activities. Funding is 
also being usedto implement new incidental take permitting of eagles, 
and hire regional biologists focused on renewable energy and improving 
environmental reviews.
    Question. What is the department's plan to spend the remaining 
unobligated $92 million in funding between FY25 and FY26?
    Answer. The Department is on track to obligate the remaining $80.7 
million by the end of fiscal year 2026.
    The Department was appropriated $150 million Section 50303 of the 
Inflation Reduction Act. Of that funding $69.3 million is obligated. 
Funding was allocated to several bureaus to support timely and 
efficient environmental reviews and authorizations. As of the middle of 
September 2024:

  --BLM received $41.1 million and has obligated $24.8 million

  --BOEM received $40.8 million and has obligated $18.9 million

  --FWS received $42.9 million and has obligated $14.8 million

  --NPS received $5.0 million and has obligated $0.9 million

    The remaining funds, about $20.2 million, will support crosscutting 
projects in support of timely and efficient environmental reviews and 
authorizations, and program administration.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Katie Britt
    Question. Please describe the anticipated impact a ban on 
traditional ammunition and fishing tackle would have on Pittman-
Robertson revenue that is apportioned to States and provide any 
supporting analysis.
    Answer. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) has not banned the 
use of lead ammunition and tackle across FWS lands and waters and is 
not developing a rule to do so.
    Question. Can the FWS please discuss which studies have been 
considered showing causal linkages between human health outcomes and 
consuming wild game harvested with lead component ammunition?
    Answer. Consistent with its wildlife conservation mission, the FWS' 
primary basis for any decisions regarding the use of lead ammunition 
and tackle on FWS lands and waters is the impact of lead on fish and 
wildlife health, based on the best available science. At the few 
stations where the FWS has implemented phase-outs of lead ammunition 
and/or tackle, it made those decisions to reduce a known threat to a 
wildlife species while still providing access to hunters and anglers.
    Question. The US Department of Agriculture, Customs and Border 
Protection, and the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) are jointly 
responsible for overseeing processes with respect to clearing imported 
wood products at U.S. ports of entry. In recent years, coordination 
across the three agencies on allowing or declining imports has led to 
delays for U.S. importers and additional storage costs.
What is FWS doing to better coordinate on the importation process with 
        respect to the wood importation process with the two other 
        agencies?
What steps has FWS considered implementing to provide a clear process 
        and procedures for agency coordination?
    Answer. The broadening of the Lacey Act in 2008 extended 
protections to a broad range of plants and plant products, making it 
unlawful to import into the United States any plant or plant product 
that was illegally harvested. It also makes it unlawful to import 
certain products without a declaration to the appropriate Federal 
agency.
    The FWS is responsible for implementation of the Convention on 
International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora 
(CITES) on behalf of the U.S. Under the Endangered Species Act (ESA), 
the Secretary of the Interior, specifically the FWS, is designated as 
the primary CITES wildlife enforcement agency while the U.S. Department 
of Agriculture (USDA) is designated as the primary CITES plant 
enforcement agency. After agency consolidation in 2002, the USDA 
delegated CITES plant importation regulatory authority to the U.S. 
Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Agriculture Specialists.
    The FWS does not have the authority to collect plant declaration 
data and is generally advised of timber shipments entering the U.S. 
upon consultation by a partner government agency on a possible CITES, 
ESA, or Lacey Act violation. FWS wildlife inspectors, who have 
authority to hold and inspect imports under the ESA and Lacey Act, 
currently have limited access to the CBP Automated Commercial 
Environment, International Trade Data Systems, Automated Targeting 
System, and Automated Export System databases. These systems contain 
the import, export, and entry data that the brokers, freight 
forwarders, and commercial carriers use to enter information for 
shipments. With limited access to these databases, FWS wildlife 
inspectors are restricted in their ability to obtain information about 
shipments, identify shipments for inspection, and coordinate with CBP 
on the movement of shipments.
    The FWS is working to optimize interagency communication by 
developing a Memorandum of Understanding with CBP that defines 
responsibilities and communication channels for each agency. The FWS 
also regularly participates in the Border Interagency Executive Council 
(BIEC) meetings and working groups. The BIEC is tasked with innovating 
and implementing enhanced cooperation between partner government 
agencies to measurably improve supply chain processes and the 
identification of illicit and non-compliant shipments.
    The FWS has also met with representatives from the timber industry 
to discuss ways to improve import processing and communication. The FWS 
sends wildlife inspectors to timber industry trade events to provide 
outreach and education on CITES regulations, enforcement, and the 
permitting process. Additionally, the FWS' National Fish and Wildlife 
Forensics Laboratory established a mobile forensics lab that can be 
positioned at key ports of entry to reduce the time required to 
identify species in timber shipments to allow for faster processing of 
those shipments. The FWS' Office of Law Enforcement can deploy the 
mobile forensics lab in a limited capacity given the operational costs 
and logistics required to deploy it.
    The FWS is also working with timber industry representatives to 
analyze instances where communication and notification issues have 
occurred and to audit the process and identify procedures that could be 
improved. The FWS is also looking to incorporate further training of 
CBP Agriculture Specialist officers on CITES regulations during their 
basic training as well as attending subsequent in-service trainings 
that may arise.
    Question. On May 9, 2024, the updated OSMRE Ten Day Notice rule 
took effect. This new rule is an update to the 2020 Ten Day Notice rule 
that all participants, State, Tribes and OSMRE, worked together to 
agree upon. OSMRE's preamble reports that it is proposing ``non- 
substantive'' changes and changes to ``improve'' readability. However, 
this new rule fundamentally alters the nature of state primacy under 
SMCRA whereby States are given exclusive rights over its regulatory 
program, and instead, the rule provides OSMRE with expanded powers over 
regulation of State programs not envisioned under SMCRA.
    Why does OSMRE believe this rule is necessary? How does the 
Department believe this new rule is in compliance with SMCRA when it 
comes to state primacy over regulatory matters?
    Answer. After evaluating the rule as prescribed by the President in 
Executive Order 13990, OSMRE determined that revising the Ten-Day 
Notice (TDN) rule was necessary to reduce burdens for citizens to 
report potential violations under SMCRA and establish procedures to 
more swiftly evaluate and process citizen allegations about those SMCRA 
violations, while continuing to minimize duplication of inspections, 
enforcement, and administration of SMCRA.
    As discussed in the Response to Comments in the final rule, because 
SMCRA specifically exempts the TDN process from States' exclusive 
jurisdiction at 30 U.S.C. 1271 and 1273, this rule is not inconsistent 
with SMCRA or any binding legal precedent on this topic. OSMRE will 
continue to honor state primacy and perform its statutorily mandated 
oversight under SMCRA to ensure appropriate SMCRA implementation in the 
primacy States.
    Question. Please describe the process by which States are informed 
of their Title V funding levels under SMCRA, how the timeline relates 
to the Department's known funding levels, and any impediments to 
communicating funding levels and actually allocating those funds.
    Answer. The States and Tribes are generally informed of their Title 
V funding levels around March of the fiscal year in which those funds 
are to be awarded, although that can be earlier depending on the date a 
full year appropriations bill for OSMRE is enacted. Once the 
appropriations bill is enacted, States and Tribes are informed of their 
Title V funding levels via issuance of the Regulatory Grant Notice of 
Funding Opportunity.
    When OSMRE is operating under a continuing resolution, contingent 
on the availability of previous years' appropriations, OSMRE provides 
States and Tribes with 25% of their previous year's funding level per 
quarter, at the start of a State's fiscal year.
    The timing of the enactment of an appropriation is the key factor 
driving the funding level, and how quickly OSMRE can inform the States 
and Tribes of their allocations.
    Question. Throughout last year, the Department ignored calls and 
emails from Congressional staff related to questions the Department 
chose not to answer. What is the average time and median time it takes 
the Department to respond to Congressional inquiries? Does the 
Department have a policy related to performance of individuals or 
offices that choose to ignore Congressional inquiry? If the Department 
lacks a policy, what authorizations or appropriations are needed to 
help the Department respond to Congress and create staffing policies 
related to ignoring Congressional inquiries?
    Answer. The Department is committed to providing timely and 
responsive service to not only Congress but to States, local 
governments, Tribes, stakeholders, and the general public. It is 
integral to the success of our agency and is a factor considered in 
employee performance reviews as it relates to the performance of their 
duties.
    Question. The Department has made clear in conversations with 
Congressional staff that it views court cases as requiring the Social 
Cost of Carbon (SCC) to be used in Environmental Assessments (EA) and 
Environmental Impact Statements (EIS), even for leases and minerals not 
relating to fossil fuels burned for energy. Further, a full EIS will be 
needed to properly take the SCC into account. In conversations at the 
staff level, the Department has noted that it reviews all lease 
applications and other reviews on a ``case by case'' basis but also 
acknowledged that the policies the Department was pursuing would 
require all leases to go through a full EIS.
    Does the Department continue to have the understanding that it will 
need to require a full EIS for all mineral and mining leases? If the 
Department has a policy of evaluating mineral and mining leases on a 
case by case basis, what is the framework that would result in a lease 
not requiring an EIS?
    Has the Department approved any leases in the last year without 
doing a full EIS?
    Has the Department approved any leases in the last 5 years without 
doing a full EIS?
    Answer. The BLM analyzes projects on a case-by-case basis to 
determine the level of NEPA analysis necessary for each project. The 
framework used to determine if an action requires an EA or an EIS is 
the Department's NEPA implementing procedures at 43 CFR Part 46, as 
well as the Departmental Manual part 516 that addresses NEPA 
compliance. NEPA procedures specifically applicable to the BLM are at 
516 DM 11. Sections 516 DM 11.7 and 11.8 address when an EA or EIS is 
to be prepared.
    Mineral development projects approved by the BLM that did not 
require an EIS in the last year include 622 mineral materials disposal 
contracts and free use permits and 11 mining plans of operation for 
locatable minerals.
    Leases or other mineral development projects approved by the BLM 
that did not require an EIS in the past 5 years (fiscal year 2019 
through fiscal year 2023) include:

  --5,901 mineral materials disposal contracts and free use permits;

  --Five non-energy leasable materials leases;

  --29 mining plans of operation for locatable minerals; and

  --72 Oil and Gas Lease sales.

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               Question Submitted by Senator Deb Fischer
    Question. The Nebraska Public Power District (NPPD) has proposed to 
construct a 226-mile, 345-kilovolt transmission line in Nebraska. This 
project will cross the habitat of the American burying beetle, so NPPD 
has applied to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) for an 
Incidental Take Permit (ITP) under the Endangered Species Act. NPPD 
started the process of obtaining an ITP in 2012, which it initially 
received in 2019. But, due to a court remand, additional analysis is 
required for USFWS to issue a revised ITP. NPPD has previously sent 
correspondence on this matter to Acting Deputy Secretary Laura Daniel-
Davis. Can you please provide an updated timeframe for the USFWS to 
complete the National Historic Preservation Act process so that it can 
issue the ITP expeditiously?
    Answer. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) anticipates 
completing a programmatic agreement under Section 106 of the National 
Historic Preservation Act by August 2025. Based on this timeline, the 
Incidental Take Permit (ITP) decision is anticipated in late 2025. The 
timeline and next steps towards an ITP decision were conveyed to the 
Nebraska Public Power District (NPPD) in late May 2024. FWS is 
currently working with NPPD on actions necessary to be able to issue an 
ITP decision by late 2025.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Merkley. This hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:16 p.m., Wednesday, May 8, the 
subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene subject to the call of 
the Chair.]



     DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES 
                  APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

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                         THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met at 10:30 a.m., in Room SD-138, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Jeff Merkley (chairman) presiding.
    Present: Senators Merkley, Tester, Van Hollen, Heinrich, 
Peters, Sinema, Murkowski, Hoeven, and Fischer.

                         INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE

STATEMENT OF THE HON. BRYAN NEWLAND, ASSISTANT 
            SECRETARY FOR INDIAN AFFAIRS
ACCOMPANIED BY ROSELYN TSO, DIRECTOR

               OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JEFF MERKLEY

    Senator Merkley. Good morning, and welcome to the last 
hearing on the Interior Environment Appropriations Subcommittee 
on the fiscal year 2025 President's budget.
    Director Tso and Assistant Secretary Newland, welcome to 
today's appropriations hearing. I am happy to have you both 
here. Your presence underscores the significance of our 
collaborative efforts in support of Indian Country. Also, 
welcome to Jillian Curtis from the Indian Health Service and 
Jason Freihage from the Department of the Interior who are 
accompanying today's witnesses and bringing their expertise to 
bear. Working together is paramount for the benefit of our 
tribal communities.
    The challenges faced by Native Americans and Alaska Natives 
are multifaceted, spanning healthcare, education, and economic 
stability. Therefore, our solutions must also be multifaceted 
and coordinated across various agencies. Your two agencies are 
inextricably linked. The social determinants of good health 
involve good education, a thriving community, a sense of 
belonging for Native-American youth, safety and security, and 
access to good roads, clean air, and safe drinking water. By 
aligning our efforts, we can amplify the impact of our 
initiatives and address the root causes of the systemic 
disparities that tribal communities face.
    The Indian Health Service request for fiscal year 2025 is 
$7.9 billion, which is a 14-percent increase. The request would 
make up for losses that flat funding in fiscal year 2024 have 
stressed the Agency given the required pay increases and 
medical inflation. The considerable increase requested for 
fiscal year 2025 also would make strides in reducing health 
disparities by expanding services such as primary care, disease 
prevention, drug treatment, dental care, pharmacy, and the list 
goes on. Another cost driver in the request is an electronic 
health records modernization effort, which proposed to be 
increased by $213 million to keep that important effort on 
track.
    The Indian Health Service serves a population with unique 
and pressing healthcare needs. Native-American and Alaska-
Native populations are facing health outcome disparities as 
compared to the cross-section of the American population, 
higher rates of diabetes, maternal mortality, cancer, and 
overdoses not seen elsewhere. Over the last 5 years, the IHS 
Service's account increased just 19 percent. That is not enough 
over a 5-year period to address the rising healthcare costs and 
the health disparities that I noted. For comparison, the VHA 
account, the Veterans Health Account, increased 42 percent over 
the same time period. The VA also has greater flexibility to 
hire, to retain, to recruit healthcare professionals, 
authorities that IHS does not have.
    Director Tso, I am pleased to see that your request 
includes several legislative proposals to improve on the status 
quo, such as a request to provide tax exemption for IHS health 
professions scholarships and loan repayment programs. The 
budget also proposes to make IHS funding exempt from 
sequestration, which the VA has already gained under the Fiscal 
Responsibility Act, while IHS was forgotten. I strongly support 
the critical funding needed to take care of our Nation's 
veterans. We should adopt a number of the VA reforms, afford 
the same dignity to Native Americans and Alaska Natives. As 
Supreme Court justice, Sonya Sotomayor, said in March at oral 
argument for an IHS-related case, ``The amount spent on tribal 
healthcare is about a third of what is spent on the average 
American. We need to do better.''
    Turning to the Department of Interior's tribal programs, 
the request includes $2.9 billion for the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs, a $485 million increase, and $1.5 billion for the 
Bureau of Indian Education, a $154 million increase. These 
investments are the building blocks of continued economic 
development and the well-being of tribal communities. This 
funding will help improve student academic outcomes, address 
maintenance needs, and expand native language revitalization 
efforts. Teachers across the country dedicate each day to their 
students and provide them with the tools to succeed. It is only 
fitting that we give the teachers the tools to be successful in 
their often thankless work.
    I want to also touch today on the in-lieu and treaty 
fishing sites along the Columbia River. Thank you, Assistant 
Secretary Newland, for your continued attention to these sites 
and providing maintenance, law enforcement services, and 
repairs. It is vitally important that we make these sites 
operable and safe for tribal members to exercise their treaty 
rights along the Columbia River. I have visited a number of 
those sites and was appalled at what I found a few years ago, 
and greatly appreciate our efforts to do better.
    And speaking of the Columbia River, as I told Secretary 
Haaland, I am pleased to see the administration has pledged a 
billion dollars in new Federal investments as part of the 
Columbia River Basin Initiative in partnership with the six 
sovereigns. We have long sought a resolution to the destruction 
of homelands, disruption of salmon runs, loss of traditional 
subsistence practices, and a loss of culture that will never be 
replaced. I hope you will continue to work closely with the 
tribes to ensure that their needs are met as part of this 
initiative.
    For the second year in a row, both budgets propose to 
reclassify tribal sovereignty payments to the mandatory side of 
the budget. These are the payments necessary to exercise tribal 
self-governance and are the reasonable overhead costs to 
administer essential government services. As Chair Murray said 
in our hearing with Secretary Haaland last week, we are adamant 
that we must reclassify these funds to the mandatory side of 
the budget where they legally belong. This is even more 
pressing given the pending Supreme Court case that could 
substantially increase contract support costs by $800 million 
to $2 billion or more per year. That is like an asteroid aimed 
at the Interior budget. These escalating costs limit our 
ability to increase investments in tribal programs.
    Finally, I want to repeat that I am calling for significant 
increases to the Fiscal Responsibility Act budget caps. These 
caps are not at all responsible, and, as I am sure we will hear 
today in this very room, that they are harming Indian Country. 
They are limiting our ability to meet the needs of tribal 
communities, which means we are falling short of fulfilling our 
treaty and trust responsibilities. I look forward to our 
discussions and the opportunity to work together towards 
comprehensive solutions. And we are going to now turn to your 
comments, Assistant Secretary Newland, but I will defer, when 
Senator Murkowski arrives, if she wants to hold her opening 
statement or to pause in order to present it.

                SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. BRYAN NEWLAND

    Mr. Newland. [Speaking native language.] Good morning, 
Chairman Merkley and members of the committee. I appreciate the 
opportunity to appear before you today on behalf of the 
Department of the Interior to provide a statement on the 
President's budget request for fiscal year 2025 for Indian 
Affairs. And before I begin, Mr. Chairman, I just want to 
acknowledge our deputy assistant secretary, Jason Freihage, who 
is here with us today to help fill in the details if we get 
down that far, but I will do my best to answer any questions 
members of the committee have.
    The President's fiscal year 2025 budget request for Indian 
Affairs totals $4.6 billion, an increase of $651 million over 
the fiscal year 2024-enacted level of funding. This represents 
funding for the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), the Bureau of 
Indian Education (BIE), and the Bureau of Trust Funds 
Administration (BTFA), as well as funding for the Office of the 
Assistant Secretary, which includes a number of program 
offices.
    The funding requested is an important step forward to meet 
our obligation to Tribes and supports the President's Executive 
Order to reform Federal funding and promote the next era of 
tribal self-determination. I have submitted a written statement 
for the record, and I want to use my limited time here today to 
focus on important areas of the budget: mandatory funding for 
legally-required payments, funding for public safety programs, 
Indian water rights settlements, and funding for Bureau of 
Indian Education and management improvements.
    First, as you just noted, Mr. Chairman, we have proposed 
reclassifying Tribal contract support costs and 105(l) lease 
payments as mandatory funding beginning in 2026. We are 
required by law to provide these payments to tribes upon their 
request, and in recent years, those costs have grown 
significantly. In fiscal year 2025, the Department will need an 
additional $232 million just to cover those costs in addition 
to water settlement costs to avoid cutting funding for existing 
programs, like public safety, transportation, and education. 
Reclassifying these funds as mandatory aligns our 
appropriations with our legal obligations, and it protects 
funding for other programs that are essential for Indian 
Country.
    I also want to speak directly to funding necessary to meet 
our trust obligations to protect people across Indian Country. 
In fiscal year 2022 and 2023, we were able to work with 
Congress to secure an additional $131.2 million for public 
safety programs for Indian Country, and I want to thank 
Congress and this Committee for working with the Administration 
on those increases. But even with those increases, our most 
recent report to Congress under the Tribal Law and Order Act 
shows that the United States funds public safety and justice 
programs at only 13 percent of the total need and obligation to 
Indian Country. In addition, the appropriations directed 52 
percent of that increased funding to just 16 tribes. That left 
only $11.5 million in additional funding to distribute to 182 
tribes across the country.
    The President's fiscal year 2025 request would increase 
public safety and justice funding by 17 percent over the fiscal 
year 2024-enacted amount. That would include a $33.5 million 
program increase in criminal investigations and police 
services--boots on the ground. Those are specifically targeted 
to increase the number of officers and investigators all across 
Indian Country. That would fund an additional 222 Federal and 
Tribal officers in Tribal communities across the Nation. The 
proposed budget would also fund an additional 120 Federal and 
Tribal corrections staff at detention and corrections 
facilities. The 2025 request would get us from 13 percent to 19 
percent of the overall public safety and justice need reported 
in the Tribal Law Order Act report. Without this requested 
increase, the Department will not be able to afford as many law 
enforcement officers, will not be able to meet court-ordered 
requirements to the Navajo Nation, and would delay maintenance 
and operating requirements at Tribal courts.
    The Administration is interested in working with Congress 
to find a solution to meet Federal commitments regarding 
current and future Indian water rights settlements, including 
the Hualapai settlement. The 2025 budget proposes legislation 
to provide mandatory funding for Indian Water Rights 
settlements, building on the Indian Water Rights Settlement 
Completion Fund, established in the Bipartisan Infrastructure 
Law. That settlement completion fund went a long way in 
clearing the backlog of settlement obligation. The Department 
has allocated over $2.4 billion of the $2.5 billion 
appropriated, however, more remains to be done.
    At this time, there are four Indian water rights 
settlements pending before Congress, and a number of other 
water rights settlements are in negotiations and likely to be 
introduced soon. The proposal would provide the Fund additional 
$2.8 billion: $250 million annually over 10 years for existing 
and future water right settlements and $34 million per year 
over 10 years for ongoing requirements implemented by the 
Bureau of Reclamation associated with the operation maintenance 
and repair costs of settlements.
    The 2025 budget for the BIE is $1.5 billion in current 
appropriations, a $154.6 million increase from the fiscal year 
2024 enacted. This increase is critical to improving BIE school 
operations and modernizing facilities. For example, the 
requested increase of $36.5 million for Indian School 
Equalization Program (ISEP) formula funds is critical for 
helping schools achieve competitive teacher salaries, which is 
a top priority of our schools, and the Tribal Interior Budget 
Council. To improve school facilities, the budget includes a 
$5.5 million increase for facility operations and maintenance 
and an additional $75.5 million for school construction. These 
facility increases are critical to continuing progress toward 
ensuring our BIE students are in modernizing, inspiring, and 
culturally-appropriate schools.
    I also want to note the importance of reauthorizing, the 
Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) and the National Parks and 
Public Land Legacy Restoration Fund. BIE currently receives 
about $95 million a year from GAOA funds, which is less than 
the average cost of completion of the most recent schools being 
built. Given these costs, replacing BIE schools in poor 
conditions will take decades, about 30 years at our current 
pace, so securing the fiscal year 2025 budget increases and 
GAOA reauthorization will help ensure the timeline is not 
extended further.
    I want to highlight the work our Indian Affairs leadership 
team is doing to improve operations. We are prioritizing 
recruitment and retention of staff in critical areas like law 
enforcement, awarding officials who move money from the BIA to 
tribal governments, as well as realty staff. Within law 
enforcement programs, we have worked to ensure BIA officer 
salaries are in line with their counterparts at other DOI 
bureaus to help improve our retention rates and to be 
competitive in recruitment. We are focused on infrastructure 
investment by exploring opportunities to address the growing 
number of 105(l) leases and needed data improvements related to 
facilities. We are also improving timelines for land into Trust 
and other realty activities, and we approach these issues from 
multiple angles, including resource and staffing levels, 
process improvements, and making better use of technology.
    Finally, the increased funding requested in this budget is 
an important step to meeting our trust obligations to Tribes. 
To support fully meeting our obligations, the President has 
signed Executive Order 14112, which directs Federal agencies to 
increase their deference to Tribal decisionmaking, streamline 
application processes for Tribes to obtain funding, and 
removing restrictions and cost-sharing requirements consistent 
with the law. The Executive Order also directs the 
establishment of a one-stop Tribal funding clearinghouse and 
requires agencies to measure and report annually on Tribe-
related funding shortfalls. I look forward to reporting to you, 
Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member Murkowski, on further progress 
to meet the requirements of the EO.
    Mr. Chairman, I have submitted a written statement for the 
record highlighting how the fiscal year 2025 budget request 
continues to focus on these priorities. I want to thank you 
again for the opportunity to testify and look forward to 
answering any questions you have.
    [The statement follows:]
                Prepared Statement of Hon. Bryan Newland
    Good afternoon, Chair Merkley and members of the subcommittee. 
Thank you for the opportunity to provide a Statement on the President's 
Budget Request for Fiscal Year 2025 (FY 2025) for Indian Affairs. The 
FY 2025 budget request for Indian Affairs programs totals $4.6 billion, 
which is an increase of $651 million over the FY 2024 Enacted level of 
funding.
    As the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs, I oversee the 
numerous programs within the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), the Bureau 
of Indian Education (BIE), and the Bureau of Trust Funds Administration 
(BTFA) along with other programs within the immediate Office of the 
Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs (IA or Indian Affairs). All of 
these programs play important roles in carrying out Federal trust, 
treaty, and other responsibilities to 574 federally recognized Indian 
Tribes. Programs serve more than two million American Indians and 
Alaska Natives in Tribal and Native communities. The BIA provides 
direct services and funding for compacts and contracts for Tribes to 
provide Federal programs for a wide range of activities necessary for 
strong Tribal communities, including natural resource and land 
management, public safety, and social service programs, among many 
others in Indian Country. BIE manages and serves a school system of 183 
schools, funds 29 Tribal Colleges and Universities (TCUs) and two 
Technical Colleges, delivering educational services and resources to 
approximately 40,000 K-12 students, as well as thousands of pre-school 
children and post-secondary college students. The BIE also operates two 
post-secondary schools. The BTFA is responsible for the financial 
management of approximately $8.8 billion of Indian trust funds held in 
about 4,200 Tribal accounts (approximately $7.2 billion) and about 
411,000 Individual Indian Money (IIM) Accounts (approximately $1.5 
billion). Indian Affairs programs are built on strong and productive 
government-to-government relations with Tribes.
    The FY 2025 budget request continues to invest in programs that are 
a foundation of Indian Country's strength. The request for the 
individual organizations is as follows: IA/BIA--$2.9 billion, an 
increase of $485.1 million above FY 2024 Enacted; BIE--$1.5 billion, an 
increase of $154.6 million above FY 2024 Enacted; and BTFA--$111.3 
million, an increase of $11.3 million above FY 2024 Enacted.
    The funding requested is an important step forward to meet our 
obligation to Tribes. To support fully meeting our obligation to 
Tribes, the President signed Executive Order 14112 (EO), Reforming 
Federal Funding and Support for Tribal Nations to Better Embrace Our 
Trust Responsibilities and Promote the Next Era of Tribal Self-
Determination. The EO directs Federal agencies to increase their 
deference to Tribal decision-making, streamline application processes 
for Tribes to obtain funding, and remove some restrictions and cost-
sharing requirements, consistent with applicable law or to recommend 
changes to existing law. The EO also directs the establishment of a 
one-stop Tribal funding clearinghouse and requires agencies to measure 
and report annually on Tribe-related funding need shortfalls. We have 
already established an initial clearinghouse and will continue to 
expand its contents and make it more user friendly to utilize for 
Tribes. I look forward to reporting to you on our further progress to 
meet the requirements of the EO.
    Before I dive into the details of the budget, I want to stress the 
importance of mandatory funding proposals for Indian Affairs and 
underline my focus on management improvements. Regarding mandatory 
funding, Contract Support Costs, payments for 105(l) Tribal leases and 
Water Rights Settlements costs are growing, legally required payments. 
These three programs should have mandatory funding to align with the 
mandatory legal requirements associated with each. If the funding 
associated with these programs is not transitioned to mandatory 
funding, it could force cuts to other critical operations such as law 
enforcement and school operations.
    Regarding continual management improvements, I want to let you know 
that our Indian Affairs leadership team is focused on operational 
improvements. One key area of focus is on improving recruitment and 
retention of staff in critical areas such as law enforcement, awarding 
officials and realty staff. Another area is infrastructure investment, 
this includes exploring opportunities to address the growing number of 
105(l) leases to process and data improvements related to facility 
improvement and repair and construction. We have also focused on 
improving timelines for land into trust status and other realty 
activities. In each of these areas, we are looking at these issues from 
multiple angles, including appropriate resources and staffing levels, 
process improvement and better use of technology. Now I will turn to 
highlights for the FY 2025 budget.
                     strengthen tribal communities
    Tiwahe means family in the Lakota language and symbolizes the 
interconnected-ness of all living things and one's personal 
responsibility to protect family, community, and the environment. To 
empower federally recognized Tribes to realize this potential, IA 
launched the Tiwahe Initiative in FY 2015. The Tiwahe Initiative is an 
extensive and bold approach to furthering Indian self-determination. 
The Tiwahe Initiative fosters systemic change in the delivery of 
services to children and families through the integration of Tribal 
practices, customs, values, and traditions. Each participating site's 
Tiwahe Initiative plan offers Tribes the flexibility to design 
programming and services to address the gaps and needs of their 
individual communities. To date, the Tiwahe Initiative has focused on 
improving collaboration and coordination across core programs like 
social services, Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA), recidivism, housing, 
and job placement and training. The 2025 Budget requests an increase of 
$28.6 million to expand the Tiwahe program by extending that 
coordination to include Healing to Wellness Courts and economic 
development needs as well as supporting the participation of new Tribes 
while sustaining the existing 10 Tiwahe Tribes.
                   federal boarding school initiative
    The BIA is uniquely positioned to assist in the effort to recover 
the histories of Federal Indian boarding schools. In 2023, as part of 
the Secretary's Federal Boarding School Initiative (BSI), Secretary 
Haaland and I completed a 12-stop Road to Healing tour, during which we 
traveled to locations across the country giving Indigenous boarding 
school survivors the opportunity to share their stories and connect 
with trauma-informed support. The 2025 budget includes $7.0 million to 
continue the Secretary's BSI and its comprehensive review of Federal 
boarding school policies. This funding will continue to implement 
recommendations laid out in the May 2022 Federal Boarding School 
Initiative Investigative Report Volume 1, including continued 
historical research and documentation, and work to identify and protect 
the remains of those identified. The funding will also support an oral 
history project to document and make accessible the experience of the 
generations of Indigenous children who attended the Federal boarding 
school system. Through the BSI, the Department is seeking to work with 
Tribal Nations to begin the long healing process through transparency 
and accountability.
                         protect indian country
    The BIA Office of Justice Services (OJS)-administered public safety 
and justice programs fund law enforcement, corrections, and court 
services to support safe Tribal communities and schools serving Indian 
Country youth. These programs safeguard life and property, enforce 
laws, maintain justice and order, and ensure detained American Indian 
and Alaska Native offenders are held in safe, secure, and humane 
environments. These programs also directly support the Administration's 
commitments to Indian Country, by increasing safety on Tribal lands and 
tackling the crisis of violence against Native women, children, and the 
elderly.
    The 2025 budget includes $651.2 million for Public Safety and 
Justice (PS&J) operations, an increase of $95.7 million above the 2024 
Enacted level. Operational funding supports the expanding Tribal needs 
in policing, detention, and Tribal courts. The budget includes a $33.5 
million program increase in Criminal Investigations and Police 
Services, specifically targeted to increase the number of officers and 
investigators on the ground in Indian Country. A program increase of 
$2.0 million is also requested to enhance functions within the OJS 
Professional Standards Directorate, including recruitment and retention 
initiatives, development and evaluation of law enforcement policies, 
program reviews, and training.
    The 2025 budget also includes $16.5 million to address the crisis 
of Missing and Murdered Indigenous People. The Missing and Murdered 
Unit engages in cross-departmental and interagency collaboration to 
identify gaps in information sharing and data collection to more 
effectively investigate these cases. As part of the proposed expansion 
to the Tiwahe Initiative, the budget includes a program increase of 
$1.9 million for the Office of Tribal Justice Support to provide 
technical assistance to Tribes looking to develop and operate Healing 
to Wellness courts. These courts serve as alternatives to incarceration 
and provide a culturally appropriate forum to support those within the 
criminal justice system by assisting in addressing underlying 
behavioral health and substance abuse issues.
    The recently released 2021 Tribal Law and Order Act report 
identified a total funding need of $3.5 billion for law enforcement, 
detention/corrections, and Tribal Court needs. (see: https://
www.bia.gov/sites/default/files/media_document/
2021_tloa_report_final_508_compliant. pdf). The total requested 
increase for law enforcement is an important step forward.
                         economic opportunities
    The 2025 budget funds the Community and Economic Development 
activity at $43.0 million, a $12.5 million increase above the 2024 
Enacted level, to advance economic opportunities in Indian Country. Job 
Placement and Training is funded at $13.9 million to assist Tribal 
members in obtaining job skills and finding and retaining jobs. 
Economic Development projects are funded at $24.5 million and include a 
request for an additional $11.5 million investment in Native language 
revitalization, which is crucial to preserve endangered languages, 
promote self- determination, and strengthen Tribal communities. A $1.2 
million program increase in Community Development Oversight is 
requested to support the implementation of Native language activities, 
the administration of the Native American Business Incubators program, 
and oversight of other grant programs.
                    manage trust resources and lands
    Tribal sovereignty and economic development cannot be achieved 
without addressing land needs. The FY 2025 budget continues to invest 
in Indian Land Consolidation with a request of $11 million to address 
fractionation and incorporate lessons learned from previous programs. 
This program has been especially important since the Land Buy-Back 
Program for Tribal Nations (LBBP), established as part of the Cobell 
Settlement, ended in November 2022. If the land consolidation program 
is not funded at a sufficient funding level, all the gains from 
reducing fractionation from LBBP funding could be lost by 2038, and we 
project that Indian Country will be back to the same level of 
fractionated interests as of 2012, preventing Tribes from effectively 
using large land areas. (see: U.S. Department of the Interior, ``Ten 
Years of Restoring Land and Building Trust 2012-2022, Land Buy-Buy Back 
Program for Tribal Nations,'' pg. 1 (December 2023)) The Land 
Consolidation program continues to be complimented by the $2 million 
provided for land acquisitions within Trust Real Estate Services 
through the Operation of Indian Programs account in FY 2024 enacted.
                   trust natural resource management
    The budget includes $359.3 million, a $37.0 million increase over 
the 2024 Enacted amount, for critical trust natural resources 
activities and investing in climate resilience and environmental 
justice. Of that amount, $48.8 million is provided for the Tribal 
Climate Resilience program. This program includes the Climate 
Relocation Grant program, which is funded at $13.5 million, $4.0 
million more than the 2024 Enacted amount, to provide relocation, 
managed retreat, and protect-in-place support for critically vulnerable 
communities. Also included in the request is$26.8 million for the 
Tribal Climate Adaptation Grant program, which helps Tribes better 
assess and address their growing adaptation needs. The Tribal Climate 
Resilience program also includes $7.8 million for Tribal youth corps 
programs. The Tribal youth corps program is an important jobs 
initiative to tackle climate change on the ground, ensure a living 
wage, and provide skills and a pathway to employment. These funds will 
also support Tribes in developing science, obtaining tools, training, 
planning, and implementing actions to build resilience into resource 
management, infrastructure, and community development activities. The 
budget supports the America the Beautiful initiative by honoring Tribal 
sovereignty and supporting the Trust Natural Resources priorities of 
Tribal Nations.
    Included in the budget request are two new elements of the Tribal 
Climate Adaptation program. First, it includes a $500,000 increase to 
fund the BIA's role in the National Seed Strategy. This funding will 
advance critical scientific requirements by supporting botanists and 
ethnologists who will seek out Indigenous knowledge to incorporate into 
restoration practices. The funding will also support co-developed 
climate adaptation and resilience best management practices for seed 
production and use in restoration. Second, in support of the White 
House national strategy to prioritize nature-based solutions (NBS) that 
benefit people and nature, advance equity, are evidence informed, 
integrate continuous improvement, and advance collaboration/co- 
stewardship opportunities, the BIA is requesting $250,000 to establish 
a Resource NBS expert to implement the NBS roadmap and strategies. The 
BIA will develop and maintain a tool for Tribes and decision makers 
that allows access to data needed to invest in protecting, sustainably 
managing, and restoring natural ecosystems.
    The budget also includes $41.0 million to support Agriculture and 
Range efforts and $33.6 million for Energy and Minerals activities, 
which includes investment in the deployment of clean energy in Tribal 
communities. IA views renewable energy as one of many tools available 
to American Indians and Alaska Natives to create sustainable economies 
on Indian land; many Indian reservations are well positioned to access 
or provide a stable source of competitively priced, low-carbon clean 
energy. These efforts also support the Justice40 Initiative, ensuring 
that at least 40 percent of the overall benefits from certain Federal 
investments are delivered to disadvantaged communities.
                              construction
    The 2025 budget includes $154.8 million for BIA Construction 
activities. The funding supports replacement and deferred maintenance 
projects to address needs at PS&J facilities. It also includes the 
irrigation rehabilitation program, which addresses critical deferred 
maintenance and construction needs at BIA-owned and operated irrigation 
facilities, including 17 Indian irrigation projects. The Safety of Dams 
program is responsible for 141 high-hazard dams on 42 Indian 
reservations. The Construction program also addresses needs at regional 
and agency offices serving Tribal programs and operations in Indian 
Country.
    Within Construction activities, the budget includes $10.0 million 
to address water-quality issues at BIA-owned water infrastructure, 
including systems of concern identified by EPA. In addition, $1.4 
million is included to support the Administration's governmentwide goal 
to accelerate the 0use of zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs) to enable a 
clean transportation future. Funds will be used to acquire ZEVs, 
install solar panels and related charging infrastructure, and perform 
planning and integration to support the initiative across Indian 
Affairs.
         contract support costs and tribal grant support costs
    Contract Support Costs funding is critical for Tribal sovereignty, 
enabling Tribes to assume responsibility for operating Federal programs 
by covering the costs to administer the programs. The budget proposes 
to reclassify Tribal Contract Support Costs from discretionary to 
mandatory funding beginning in 2026 while estimating $426.2 million in 
discretionary funding needs in 2025 to fully cover projected 
requirements.
    The BIE 2025 request includes $100.7 million in Tribal Grant 
Support Costs. These funds provide operating and staffing resources to 
Tribes who choose to operate BIE-funded schools. Nearly 70 percent of 
all BIE-funded K-12 schools are operated by Tribes.
                       payments for tribal leases
    Section 105(l) of the Indian Self Determination and Education 
Assistance Act (ISDEAA) provides that Tribes and Tribal organizations 
carrying out Federal functions under a self- determination contract or 
self-governance compact may enter into a lease agreement with the 
Department for the Tribally owned or rented facility used to carry out 
those functions. This critical Tribal sovereignty payment is allowing 
IA to get Tribes closer to meeting the full cost of program 
implementation and improving their facilities. The 2025 budget proposes 
to reclassify 105(l) lease agreement requirements from discretionary to 
mandatory funding beginning in 2026 while estimating $120.0 million in 
discretionary funding needs in 2025 to fully cover projected 
requirements. The budget also includes an increase of $2.2 million in 
Executive Direction which will help fund additional staff to meet the 
growing level of requests of Tribes. The annual number of Tribal lease 
requests currently exceeds 600. This funding for additional staff is 
critical to meet this demand in a timely manner.
                   land and water claims settlements
    Tribal land and water rights settlements ensure that Tribes have 
access to land and water to meet domestic, economic, and cultural 
needs. The 2025 budget proposes $45.9 million for the Settlements 
account. The 2025 funding request covers the continuing implementation 
of the White Earth Reservation Land Settlement Act (Public Law 99-264) 
and Truckee River Operating Agreement (Public Law 101-618). The request 
also includes initial funding of $45.0 million for Federal payments 
authorized in the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement Act of 2022 
(Public Law 117-419). The Hualapai settlement authorizes discretionary 
appropriations of $317.0 million plus indexing to the Tribe for the 
construction of the Hualapai Water Project and other domestic water 
supply infrastructure on the Hualapai Reservation. Payments to satisfy 
the settlement must be made by April 15, 2029.
    The Administration is interested in working with Congress to find a 
solution to meet Federal commitments regarding current and future 
Indian water rights settlements, including the Hualapai settlement. The 
2025 President's Budget proposes legislation to provide robust 
mandatory funding for Indian Water Rights Settlements, building on the 
Indian Water Rights Settlement Completion Fund (IWRSC), established in 
the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (Public Law 117-58). The IWRSC went a 
long way in clearing the backlog of settlement obligations and the 
Department has allocated over $2.4 billion of the $2.5 billion 
appropriated. However, more remains to be done. At this time, there are 
four Indian water settlements pending before Congress and a number of 
other water settlements are in negotiation and may be introduced soon. 
The proposal would provide the fund $2.8 billion: $250.0 million 
annually over 10 years for existing and future water rights settlements 
and $34.0 million a year over 10 years for on-going requirements 
implemented by the Bureau of Reclamation associated with the operation, 
maintenance, and repair costs of the Ak Chin Indian Water Rights 
Settlement Project, the Animas-La Plata Project (Colorado Ute 
Settlement), the Navajo Gallup Water Supply Project, and annual 
responsibilities under the Columbia and Snake River Salmon Recovery 
Project (Nez Perce Settlement).
                     foster tribal student success
    The 2025 budget for the BIE is $1.5 billion in current 
appropriations, a $154.6 million increase from the 2024 Enacted level. 
The budget includes key investments to strengthen the BIE's autonomy as 
a Federal agency and improve local services for Tribally controlled and 
bureau- operated schools while also advancing equity for historically 
underserved Tribal communities.
    The United States has a trust and treaty responsibility to provide 
eligible Indian students with a quality education. The BIE serves as a 
capacity builder and service provider to support Tribes in delivering 
culturally appropriate education with high academic standards to allow 
students across Indian Country to achieve success. Funding for the BIE 
supports classroom instruction, student transportation, Native language 
development programs, cultural enrichment, gifted and talented 
programs, behavioral health and wellness services, school safety, 
security, and education technology investments. The BIE operates two 
postsecondary institutions, administers grants for 29 Tribally 
controlled colleges and universities, funds two Tribal technical 
colleges, and supports multiple scholarship programs for highly 
qualified Native American students.
    The 2025 budget invests in improved educational opportunities and 
service delivery for Native American students from their earliest years 
through college. Under the BIE, the FY 2025 budget includes $310 
million for Education Construction activities, supporting critical 
school construction, deferred maintenance for schools and TCUs, and new 
employee housing and repair to support teacher recruitment and 
retention in underserved communities. With the 2025 budget request and 
Great American Outdoors Act Funding anticipated through 2025, the BIE 
expects to support the planning, design, and construction work at four 
BIE schools and address inflationary cost increases at schools funded 
in prior years. As the BIE continues to strengthen delivery of services 
to underserved communities as an independent bureau, the 2025 request 
includes a $6.3 million program increase in Education Program 
Management, which includes additional support for critical grant 
specialists, facilities specialists, and education information 
technology specialists. To ensure current and additional resources are 
well targeted, the BIE has developed and recently completed Tribal 
consultation across Indian Country regarding its 2024-2029 strategic 
plan, which will be published this summer. The BIE strategic plan 
creates a roadmap for the future to support Tribes in educating their 
youth and to deliver a world-class and culturally appropriate 
education.
                         trust fund management
    The 2025 budget includes $111.3 million, an $11.3 million increase 
from 2024 Enacted, to support Tribal and Individual Indian Money 
financial functions managed by the Bureau of Trust Funds Administration 
(BTFA). The BTFA was established within the Office of the Assistant 
Secretary--Indian Affairs in 2020 to house the ongoing financial trust 
management functions of the Office of the Special Trustee for American 
Indians. Trust funds include payments from judgment awards, settlements 
of claims, land-use agreements, royalties on natural resource use, 
other proceeds derived directly from trust resources, and financial 
investment income. Trust financial management functions include 
receipting, investing, disbursing, reconciling, and reporting of trust 
funds on behalf of individual Indians. We appreciate Congress's full 
recognition of BTFA as a bureau in the FY 2024 Enacted Appropriation, 
which will allow the organization to focus on its mission of serving 
Indian Country.
                               conclusion
    This FY 2025 budget request maintains strong and meaningful 
relationships with Native communities, strengthens government-to-
government relationships with federally recognized Tribes, promotes 
efficient and effective governance, and supports nation-building and 
self- determination. The request delivers community services, restores 
Tribal homelands, fulfills commitments related to water and other 
resource rights, executes fiduciary trust responsibilities, supports 
the stewardship of energy and other natural resources, creates economic 
opportunity, expands access to early childhood, K-12, and post-
secondary education, and assists in supporting community resilience in 
the face of a changing climate.
    Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. I am 
happy to answer any questions the subcommittee may have.

    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Secretary Newland, 
and we are going to turn now to ranking member, Senator 
Murkowski.

                  STATEMENT OF SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI

    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My apologies 
for being tardy here this morning. Thank you for your presence 
here, for your leadership at both BIA and in the Department of 
Interior, to welcome Director Tso, Assistant Secretary Newland. 
It has been a busy couple of weeks in the Approps Committee 
with the focus on the 2025 budget. I think this hearing marks 
the last one before we start to write a bill for the next 
fiscal year, and with the two agencies responsible for tribal 
programs under the subcommittee's jurisdiction. So we got a lot 
to do here, but I think one of the things that we have seen is 
a commitment, a priority to work together to fund essential 
programs that serve tribes and native communities.
    It is no secret that fiscal year 2024 was a lean year for 
the agencies that were funded by this subcommittee. We had to 
make a lot of tough choices, but we did our best to maintain 
funding for the programs that are critical to Indian Country 
and Alaska, including health, economic development, education, 
and workforce development, as well as water and sanitation 
infrastructure. And as we work to uphold the Federal 
Government's trust responsibilities, we have made great 
progress on the challenging issues related to contract support 
costs and 105 tribal lease payments. But the challenges keep 
coming, so Director Tso, we are going to need to keep in close 
touch on this, given the pending Supreme Court case regarding 
contract support costs and responsibilities related to third-
party payments.
    The President's proposal for IHS is roughly $8 billion, 
which represents an increase of over $1 billion above enacted 
and, again, proposes to shift the entire Agency to mandatory 
funding beginning in fiscal year 2025. And while I agree that 
there is far more need than funding levels can meet and have 
supported advanced appropriations for the Agency, I am not sure 
how the constraints of the Fiscal Responsibility Act would 
provide for that level of increase now or how we pay for a 
shift to mandatory funding in the out-years.
    A couple Alaska-specific issues with IHS that I have raised 
with you previously, Director Tso, and the first is IHS' 
consultation policy and the definition of ``Indian tribe'' in 
that policy. I think you know IHS has been using the ISDEA 
definition of ``Indian tribe'' for many years now. It allows 
Alaska's entire tribal health system to participate in 
consultation. You well know the unique structure that we have 
for delivery of healthcare that involves Alaska tribes, tribal 
organizations, and intertribal consortia. We have heard no 
clear reason to change from the definition of ``Indian tribe'' 
after years of productive tribal relations with IHS under the 
current policy, so I would urge IHS to not undermine the 
existing robust tribal consultation process. Just do not do it. 
I am going to mention the Alaska Native Medical Center, but we 
will do that in questions.
    Then turning to the Department of Interior, the proposed 
fiscal year 2025 funding for Indian Affairs, about $4.5 
billion, close to $588 million above enacted. I also recognize 
the importance and the need for the resources for activities 
funded by DOI, but, again, do not see how current law provides 
a path to that level of funding. The only promise that I can 
make as we look to write this bill is that we will continue our 
bipartisan tradition to prioritize the needs of native 
communities.
    Sitting as the ranking member on Indian Affairs, I am proud 
of all that we have been able to achieve together for missing 
and murdered indigenous people, but as we mentioned yesterday 
at the hearing, Assistant Secretary, I think we are just 
scratching the surface right now. As I talk with native 
communities in Alaska and across the country, public safety and 
justice investments are a top priority. And again, the hearings 
that we have had there in Indian Affairs have been important, 
talking about everything from adequate funding for PL 280 
States to address the inequities with respect to public safety 
and justice with non PL 280 States. This is a top concern. I 
have included funding for tribal courts in PL 280 States in the 
Interior bill for the last 10 years. I think we are making some 
progress there.
    We also mentioned the VAWA 2022, which established the 
Alaska Pilot Program and an Alaska Intertribal Technical 
Assistance Working Group. I am not quite sure if we are going 
to have a good acronym for that, but we are hoping to see DOI 
actively participate in those programs, too. And we are going 
to continue to support sufficient funding for the small and 
needy tribe supplement, subsistence, and programs that support 
native languages. It is also important to me that tribal 
management programs are effectively contributing towards 
economic development while meeting natural resource goals.
    A lot of ground to cover. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the 
good work of the committee and our staffs as we work to build 
out the budget in this subcommittee for these important 
priorities.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator Murkowski. 
Now we are going to turn to the director of the Indian Health 
Services, Roselyn Tso. Welcome.
STATEMENT OF ROSELYN TSO, DIRECTOR, INDIAN HEALTH 
            SERVICE
    Dr. Tso. Good morning, Chairman Merkley, and Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and members of the committee. Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify on the President's fiscal year 2025 
budget request for the Indian Health Service.
    Before I turn to the budget, I want to first acknowledge 
and thank you for your work over the years to grow the IHS 
budget, as well as prioritize Indian healthcare across Indian 
Country. We are especially grateful for the IHS advanced 
appropriations in fiscal year 2024, this historic achievement 
that has greatly improved the lives of American Indians and 
Alaska natives across Indian Country. I am happy to report that 
because of the fiscal year 2024 advanced appropriations, IHS 
has made a hundred percent of payments to eligible tribes 
through compacts and contracts within the first 2 weeks of the 
fiscal year.
    I also appreciate the opportunity to share with you the 
steps I have taken as the IHS director to improve transparency, 
accountability, and oversight at the Indian Health Service. As 
we seek additional funding and new funding authorities, it is 
critical that the Indian Health Service improve its internal 
operations to ensure safe and high-quality healthcare, and 
protect and support the relationships that we have with tribes 
and urban organizations. To ensure that I fully understand the 
challenges and successes throughout Indian Country, I 
appreciate the opportunity to visit with tribal leaders across 
the country in their space to better understand and also gain 
their input and perspective. In support of building a high-
performing organization, I implemented the first Agency work 
plan in January of 2023 that achieved three major 
accomplishments, including total system safety strategy, the 
IHS patient safety policy, and improvements to our purchase and 
referred care program, such as updating the medical priority 
levels, building a financial monitoring tool system, and 
training staff to obligate PRC funding in a timely manner.
    Building on the work plan, our 2024 Agency work plan 
outlines steps that the Agency is taking to address priorities 
as well as mitigate risk. The Agency work plan addresses a wide 
range of issues, but also incorporates the recommendation and 
principles identified by the GAO with the goal of being removed 
from the GAO High-Risk List. With your support, the IHS budget 
has grown by 69 percent in the last decade. We know that this 
type of growth is challenging to accomplish in a constrained 
discretionary funding environment. Over the years, the work 
with our tribes and urban partners underscore our shared goal 
to improve health outcomes for all American Indians and Alaska 
Natives. It is with this shared goal in mind that the 
administrative approach to the 2025 budget request for IHS.
    We know that despite our shared efforts, IHS is still 
underfunded. This underfunding of the Indian health system 
directly contributes to the stark health disparities in our 
tribal communities. For example, American Indians and Alaska 
Natives born today have an average life expectancy that is 10.9 
years fewer than U.S. all-race population. Longstanding health 
disparities were compounded by the pandemic, with American 
Indians and Alaska Natives experiencing disproportionate rates 
of COVID-19 infections, hospitalizations, and death. Addressing 
these inequities is a moral imperative for our Nation, and it 
will require bold steps from all of us to ensure we are 
upholding our commitment to Indian Country. That is why the 
budget proposes to build on the enactment of advanced 
appropriations for funding the IHS as discretionary in 2025. 
Beginning in 2026, the budget will move all funding to 
mandatory.
    The administration continues to stand behind mandatory 
funding as the most appropriate long-term funding solution for 
Indian Health Service, and we know it is a significant change 
that will take time and collaboration with Congress and tribes 
to accomplish. We believe that this change of this magnitude is 
overdue, and we must deliver to Indian Country. As we work 
together towards securing a stable, predictable, adequate 
funding to meet the needs of Indian Country, we are committed 
to working closely with our stakeholders. Thank you again for 
the opportunity to speak with you today, and I am happy to 
answer any questions that committee may have.
    [The statement follows:]
                 Prepared Statement of Hon. Roselyn Tso
    Good morning Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and 
Members of the Committee. Thank you for your support and for inviting 
me to speak with you about the President's Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Budget 
Request for the IHS.
    The Indian Health Service (IHS) is an agency within the Department 
of Health and Human Services (HHS) and our mission is to raise the 
physical, mental, social, and spiritual health of American Indians and 
Alaska Natives (AI/ANs) to the highest level. This mission is carried 
out in partnership with AI/AN Tribal communities through a network of 
over 600 Federal and Tribal health facilities and 41 Urban Indian 
Organizations (UIOs) that are located across 37 States and provide 
health care services to approximately 2.8 million AI/AN people 
annually.
    On March 11, 2024, the White House released the President's FY 2025 
Budget, which builds on the historic enactment of advance 
appropriations for the IHS by taking a two-pronged approach. In FY 
2025, the Budget proposes to fund all IHS accounts (other than the 
Special Diabetes Program for Indians) as discretionary, building on the 
advance appropriations already enacted. Beginning in FY 2026, the 
Budget would make all funding for IHS mandatory. The action taken in 
the FY 2025 President's Budget demonstrates the Administration's 
continued commitment to strengthening the Nation-to-nation 
relationship. This historic proposal addresses long-standing challenges 
that have impacted communities across Indian Country for decades.
    The Indian Health system is chronically underfunded compared to 
other healthcare systems in the U.S.\1, 2\ Despite substantial growth 
in the IHS discretionary budget over the last decade, 69 percent from 
FY 2013 to the current FY 2024 enacted level, the growth has not been 
sufficient to address the well documented funding gaps in Indian 
Country. These deficiencies directly contribute to stark health 
disparities faced by Tribal communities. AI/ANs born today have an 
average life expectancy that is 10.9 years fewer than the U.S. all-
races population. AI/AN life expectancy dropped from an estimated 71.8 
years in 2019 to 65.2 years in 2021--the same life expectancy as the 
general United States population in 1944.\3\ They experience 
disproportionate rates of mortality from most major health issues, 
including chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, diabetes, unintentional 
injuries, assault and homicide, and suicide. AI/AN people also have 
higher rates of colorectal, kidney, liver, lung, and stomach cancers 
than non-Hispanic White people.\4\ The pandemic compounded the impact 
of these disparities in Tribal communities, with AI/ANs experiencing 
disproportionate rates of COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and 
death.
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    \1\ Government Accountability Office Report--Indian Health Service: 
Spending Levels and Characteristics of IHS and Three Other Federal 
Health Care Programs https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-19-74r.pdf
    \2\ U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Report--Broken Promises: 
Continuing Federal Funding Shortfall for Native Americanshttps://
www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/2018/12-20-Broken-Promises.pdf
    \3\ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Report--Life 
Expectancy in the U.S. Dropped for the Second Year in a Row in 2021 
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/
20220831.htm#::text=AIAN%20people%20had%20a%20life,total%20 U.S.%20 
population%20in%201944
    \4\ CDC--Cancer Within American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/AN) 
Populations https://www.cdc.gov/healthyTribes/native-american-
cancer.html
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                         leadership priorities
    In January, the IHS implemented the 2024 Agency Work plan \5\ and 
closed out the 2023 plan. The 2023 Agency Work Plan produced remarkable 
achievements across the Agency, including implementing the Total System 
Safety Strategy, the IHS Patient Safety Policy in November 2023 to 
support system level safety for the IHS workforce and patients, and 
improvements to the Purchased/Referred Care (PRC) program, such as new 
medical priority levels, a financial monitoring tool, and staff 
training to obligate PRC funding in a timely way.
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    The 2024 Agency Work Plan outlines steps the IHS is taking to 
address priorities as well as mitigate risks. The plan details critical 
actions that will ensure safe, quality, and patient-centered care, as 
well as improve IHS operations and communication. The IHS will achieve 
these goals through rigorous management and oversight of resources to 
ensure the health care needs of AI/ANs are met. The 2024 Agency Work 
Plan also includes actions that are necessary to meet the U.S. 
Government Accountability Office's criteria for being removed from 
their high-risk list \6\.
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    \6\ Government Accountability Office- Key Practices to Successfully 
Address High-Risk Areas and Remove Them from the List https://
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    As I travel across Indian Country, I see the consequences of 
decades-long underfunding of the Indian health system. I see the 
promise of what could be accomplished with appropriate funding for the 
IHS in the achievements of IHS-operated hospitals and health clinics, 
Tribal Health Programs, and Urban Indian Organizations, despite 
resource limitations. I also see the immediate impact of predictable 
and timely funding through advance appropriations, including the IHS's 
fastest-ever distribution of annually appropriated funds and the 
continued focus on patient care uninterrupted by delays or potential 
lapses in appropriations. The FY 2025 President's Budget moves the 
Federal Government closer to meeting its responsibilities to Indian 
Country than ever before.
         advance appropriations and long-term funding solutions
    The FY 2025 President's Budget builds on the historic enactment of 
advance appropriations. For FY 2025, the Budget includes $8.2 billion 
in total funding for the IHS, which includes $8.0 billion in 
discretionary funding, and $260 million in proposed mandatory funding 
for the Special Diabetes Program for Indians. This is an increase of 
$1.1 billion above the FY 2024 Enacted level.
    Advance appropriations represent an important step towards securing 
stable and predictable funding to improve the overall health status of 
AI/ANs and ensuring that the disproportionate impacts experienced by 
Tribal communities during government shutdowns and continuing 
resolutions are never repeated. While the progress achieved through the 
enactment of advance appropriations will have a lasting impact on 
Indian Country, funding growth beyond what can be accomplished through 
discretionary spending is needed to fulfill the Federal Government's 
commitments to AI/AN communities. Funding for IHS has grown 
substantially in the last decade, but this growth is not sufficient to 
address the historic underinvestment and persistent health disparities 
in AI/AN communities.
    The Budget proposes to fully shift the IHS budget to mandatory 
funding in FY 2026. Under the mandatory proposal, IHS funding would 
grow automatically to address the growing cost of providing direct 
health care services, including pay costs, medical and non-medical 
inflation, population growth, key operational needs, and existing 
backlogs in both healthcare services and facilities infrastructure. 
This mandatory formula culminates in a total funding level of 
approximately $42 billion in FY 2034. In total, the mandatory formula 
would provide approximately $289 billion for the IHS over the budget 
window. When accounting for the discretionary baseline, the net cost of 
the proposal is approximately $208 billion over the budget window.
    The Administration continues to support mandatory funding for IHS 
as the most appropriate long-term funding solution for the agency and 
will continue to work collaboratively with Tribes and Congress to move 
toward sustainable mandatory funding. Until this solution is enacted, 
it is critical that Congress continue to provide advance appropriations 
for IHS through the discretionary appropriations process to ensure 
funding for healthcare services and facilities activities are not 
disrupted.
    Mandatory funding for the IHS provides the opportunity for 
significant funding increases that would be difficult to achieve within 
the limitations of the discretionary appropriations process. Further, 
this mandatory funding proposal would ensure greater predictability 
that would allow IHS, Tribal, and urban Indian health programs the 
opportunity for long-term and strategic planning. This increased 
stability and ability to conduct longer-term planning will improve the 
quality of healthcare, promote recruitment and retention of health 
professionals, and enhance management efficiencies for individual 
health programs and the Indian Health system at large. The request also 
responds to the long-standing recommendations of Tribal leaders shared 
in consultation with HHS and IHS to make IHS funding mandatory.
    The Budget also exempts all IHS funding from sequestration, which 
is the legislatively mandated process of budget control consisting of 
automatic, across-the-board spending reductions to enforce budget 
targets to limit Federal spending. Exempting the IHS budget from 
sequestration ensures funding for direct health care services for AI/
ANs is not reduced and is consistent with the treatment of other 
critical programs such as veterans' health care benefits.
    Lastly, the Budget proposes to reauthorize mandatory funding for 
the Special Diabetes Program for Indians and increase funding to $260 
million in FY 2025 and $270 million in FY 2026. This program has proven 
to be effective at reducing the prevalence of diabetes among AI/AN 
adults.\7\ Potential net savings to Medicare due to averted cases of 
diabetes-related end-stage renal disease were estimated to be up to 
$520 million over 10 years.\8\ The budget's proposed increases will 
enable the program to expand to additional grantees and allow local 
recipients to plan for larger and longer-term interventions more 
effectively.
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    \7\ 4 British Medical Journal- Prevalence of diagnosed diabetes in 
American Indian and Alaska Native adults, 2006-2017https://drc.bmj.com/
content/8/1/e001218
    \8\ HHS Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation Issue 
Brief- The Special Diabetes Program for Indians Estimates of Medicare 
Savings https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/private/pdf/261741/
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                 prioritizing high quality health care
    The Budget prioritizes investments that advance high quality health 
care and tackle the stark healthcare inequities 2.8 million Americans 
in the country who are AI/AN face every day.
    In FY 2025, the Budget provides $345 million to offset the rising 
costs of providing direct health care services. These resources will 
help the IHS to maintain medical care levels and address increasing 
costs affecting the operating budgets of IHS, Tribal, and urban Indian 
health programs.
    Similarly, the Budget includes $153 million to fully fund staffing 
and operating costs at 10 newly-constructed or expanded health care 
facilities opening in FY 2024 and FY 2025.\9\ These funds will expand 
the availability of direct health care services in areas where existing 
health care capacity is overextended. Beginning in FY 2026, the 
mandatory funding formula fully funds current services and staffing and 
operating costs for newly opening facilities in the out-years, which 
ensure that health care services are maintained and/or expanded.
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    \9\ As the budget was developed before Congress completed action on 
full year FY 2024 appropriations, the request includes $61 million to 
fully- fund staffing costs of 7 new or expanded facilities eligible for 
funds in FY 2024. Congress provided this funding in the FY 2024 
Omnibus, so this funding would become recurring and these increases 
would not need to be provided again in FY 2025.
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    In FY 2025, the Budget also makes targeted investments to address 
our Nation's most pressing public health challenges, which 
disproportionately impact AI/AN communities, including an additional 
$10 million to address HIV, Hepatitis C, and sexually transmitted 
infections and an additional $10 million to address opioid use in 
Indian Country.
    The Budget also makes numerous investments in high priority areas, 
such as the expansion of the successful National Community Health Aide 
Program and other activities that support high quality health care.
    Likewise, from FY 2026 to FY 2030, the Budget requests an 
additional $11.6 billion in mandatory funding for the Indian Health 
Care Improvement Fund to address the funding gap for direct healthcare 
services documented in the FY 2018 level of need funded analysis.\10\ 
The Budget would continue growth for direct services once the 2018 gap 
is addressed. This funding would be distributed using the Indian Health 
Care Improvement Fund formula. The formula targets appropriations to 
the sites with the greatest need, as compared to the benchmark of 
National Health Expenditure Data, which is maintained by the Centers 
for Medicare and Medicaid Services. The formula is the product of 
longstanding consultation with Tribes.
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responsive2017/display_objects/documents/2018/
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    The Budget also prevents a sharp reduction in services by providing 
an additional $220 million in mandatory funding in FY 2026 to partially 
sustain the one-time American Rescue Plan Act investments that were 
appropriated to expand access to mental health and substance abuse 
prevention and treatment services, and to expand the public health 
workforce in Indian Country.
    Lastly, the Budget proposes dedicated funding to address 
disparities in cancer rates and mortality among AI/ANs, providing $108 
million in mandatory funding in FY 2026 for the Biden Cancer Moonshot 
Initiative. Through this initiative, the IHS would develop a 
coordinated public health and clinical cancer prevention program to 
implement best practices and prevention strategies to address incidence 
of cancer and mortality among AI/ANs.
                  modernizing critical infrastructure
    In addition to funding for direct health care services, additional 
investments are needed to address substantial deficiencies in physical 
and information technology infrastructure across the IHS system. 
Outdated infrastructure poses challenges in safely providing patient 
care, recruiting and retaining staff, and meeting accreditation 
standards. The Budget includes critical funding increases to reduce or 
eliminate existing facilities backlogs and modernize the IHS Electronic 
Health Record (EHR) through implementation of a new system.
    The current IHS EHR is over 40 years old, and the GAO identifies it 
as one of the 10 most critical Federal legacy systems in need of 
modernization.\11\ The IHS relies on its EHR for all aspects of patient 
care, including the patient record, prescriptions, care referrals, and 
billing public and private insurance for over $1 billion reimbursable 
health care services annually. As a result of EHR modernization, 
patients and staff can expect improved patient safety, improved patient 
outcomes, better disease management, enhanced population health, 
improved clinical quality measures, opioid tracking, patient data 
exchange, third party revenue generation, and agency performance 
reporting; among others. Additionally, the new system will be 
interoperable with the Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of 
Defense, Tribal and urban Indian health programs, academic affiliates, 
and community partners, many of whom use different health information 
technology platforms.
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    In FY 2025, the Budget provides $435 million in discretionary 
funding for EHR modernization, an increase of +$245 million above 2024 
Enacted to support licensing, hosting, training, site remediation, 
implementation, and support costs to implement a modernized system. The 
Budget then builds funding for EHR by adding $1.3 billion in mandatory 
funding each year from FY 2026-FY 2030 to fully fund the modernization 
effort. Once the EHR modernization effort is fully funded, the Budget 
maintains sufficient resources for ongoing operations and maintenance 
of the new system.
    The Indian health system also faces substantial physical 
infrastructure challenges--IHS hospitals are approximately 39 years old 
on average, which is over three times the average age of hospitals in 
the United States. Infrastructure deficiencies directly contribute to 
poorer health outcomes for AI/ANs and limit services that can be 
provided. Starting in FY 2026, the Budget addresses these needs by 
fully funding the 1993 Health Care Facilities Construction Priority 
List over 5 years. The remaining projects on the list include the 
Phoenix Indian Medical Center, Phoenix, AZ; Whiteriver Hospital, 
Whiteriver, AZ; Gallup Indian Medical Center, Gallup, NM; Albuquerque 
West Health Center, Albuquerque, NM; Albuquerque Central Health Center, 
Albuquerque, NM; Sells Health Center, Sells, AZ, Alamo Heath Center, 
Alamo, NM; Bodaway Gap Health Center, The Gap AZ; and Pueblo Pintado 
Health Center, Pueblo Pintado, NM.
    Furthermore, the Budget includes an additional $454 million in 
mandatory funding over 2 years, from FY 2026 to FY 2027, to fully fund 
the medical equipment backlog. Many IHS hospital administrators report 
that old or inadequate physical environments challenged their ability 
to provide quality care and maintain compliance with the Medicare 
Hospital Conditions of Participation. The administrators also report 
that aging buildings and equipment is a major challenge impacting 
recruitment and retention of clinicians.
    Maintaining reliable and efficient buildings is also a challenge as 
existing health care facilities age and the costs to operate and 
properly maintain health care facilities increases. Many IHS and Tribal 
health care facilities are operating at or beyond capacity and their 
designs are not efficient in the context of modern health care 
delivery. The Budget tackles this challenge by fully funding the 2023 
Backlog of Essential Maintenance, Alteration, and Repair for IHS and 
Tribal facilities of $2.0 billion over 2 years, from FY 2026 to FY 
2027.
    The mandatory budget ensures that these facilities investments can 
be rapidly addressed by providing sufficient administrative support 
increases. Specifically, the Budget increases the Facilities and 
Environmental Health Support funding to account for the growth in 
Health Care Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities 
Construction (SFC). This ensures adequate staff to properly oversee and 
implement facilities projects, as well as a comprehensive environmental 
health program within IHS.
    Beginning in FY 2027, the Budget provides an additional $250 
million to address operation and maintenance costs for sanitation 
facilities projects, addressing longstanding recommendations from 
Tribes. In addition, the Budget dedicates $10 million in mandatory 
funding to support a nation-wide analysis to understand the cost 
implications of implementing section 302 of the Indian Health Care 
Improvement Act (25 U.S.C. 1632), which authorizes funding for 
operations and maintenance costs for Tribes who choose to directly 
compete their own SFC projects. The results of this analysis will be 
used and implemented as part of the updated mandatory formula 
structure. These funds would be used by IHS and Tribes to ensure that 
existing SFC projects are reaching their maximum life-cycle and 
operations of these projects are sustainable for as long as possible.
                     supporting self-determination
    IHS continues to support the self-determination of Tribes to 
operate their own health programs. Tribal leaders and members are best 
positioned to understand the priorities and needs of their local 
communities. The amount of the IHS budget that is administered directly 
by Tribes through Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance 
Act contracts and compacts has grown over time, with over 60 percent of 
IHS funding currently administered directly by Tribes. Tribes design 
and manage the delivery of individual and community health services 
through 22 hospitals, 330 health centers, 559 ambulatory clinics, 76 
health stations, 146 Alaska village clinics, and 7 school health 
centers across Indian Country. In recognition of this, the Budget 
maintains an indefinite discretionary appropriation for Contract 
Support Costs and Section 105(l) lease agreements with estimated 
funding levels of $979 million for Contract Support Costs and $349 
million for Section 105(l) Lease Agreements in FY 2025. The budget also 
includes appropriations language to allow IHS not more than $10 million 
for management and oversight activities in each of the CSC and Tribal 
Lease Payments indefinite discretionary appropriations. These resources 
are critical for providing appropriate technical assistance to Tribes, 
supporting timely processing of CSC and section 105(l) lease 
agreements, and overseeing these ever- growing programs. Starting in FY 
2026, the Budget would provide mandatory, indefinite funding for these 
accounts across the 9-year budget window to ensure these payments to 
Tribes are fully funded.
                     future emergency preparedness
    Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, the IHS made incredible 
achievements to save lives and improve the health of AI/ANs across the 
Nation. The IHS worked closely with our Tribal and Urban Indian 
Organization partners, State and local public health officials, and our 
fellow Federal agencies to coordinate a comprehensive public health 
response to the pandemic. Our number one priority has been the safety 
of our IHS patients and staff, as well as Tribal community members.
    COVID-19 has disproportionally impacted AI/ANs. Deficiencies in 
public health infrastructure exacerbated the impact of COVID-19 on AI/
ANs. To address the long-term impacts of COVID- 19, in FY 2026 the 
Budget provides an additional $130 million in mandatory funding to 
support IHS patients in recovery from the long-lasting effects of the 
COVID-19 pandemic, including treatment for long haul COVID-19. Based on 
data from 14 States, age-adjusted COVID-19 associated mortality among 
AI/AN was 1.8 times that of non-Hispanic Whites.\12\ In 23 States with 
adequate race and ethnicity data, the cumulative incidence of 
laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 among AI/AN was 3.5 times that of non-
Hispanic Whites. In the state of Montana, COVID-19 incidence and 
mortality rates among AI/AN were 2.2 and 3.8 times those among White 
persons, respectively.
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    Beginning in FY 2026, the Budget also establishes a new dedicated 
funding stream to address public health capacity and infrastructure 
needs in Indian Country. This funding will support an innovative hub-
and-spoke model to address local public health needs in partnership 
with Tribes and urban Indian organizations. Establishing a new program 
to build public health capacity is a key lesson learned from the COVID-
19 pandemic, and a top recommendation shared by tribal leaders in 
consultation with HHS. This includes $150 million in FY 2026, and would 
grow for inflation in the out-years under the formula, for a total of 
$500 million over 9 years.
    These resources are necessary to develop appropriate public health 
and emergency preparedness capacity in AI/AN communities to prevent 
these disproportionate impacts in the future. Tribes do not receive 
dedicated public health funding from the Federal Government, and the 
IHS does not currently have sufficient funding to support ongoing 
public health and emergency preparedness infrastructure. As of 2021, 
only four Tribal public health agencies are accredited through the 
Public Health Accreditation Board. Comparatively, 40 State and 305 
local public health agencies were accredited as of 2021.\13\ The 
proposal complements the Budget's proposed investments in public health 
readiness and pandemic preparedness by ensuring IHS and Tribal 
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                         legislative proposals
    In addition to proposed investments to ensure IHS has adequate 
operational capacity, the budget also includes several legislative 
proposals that would provide IHS with critical new or expanded 
authorities to address operational issues. Many of these proposals seek 
to enhance the agency's ability to recruit and retain healthcare 
providers, and provide parity with other Federal agencies to increase 
IHS' competitiveness when hiring for key positions. The IHS, as a rural 
health care provider, experiences difficulty recruiting and retaining 
health care professionals, physicians and other primary care clinicians 
in particular. Staffing shortages are particularly prevalent in the 
behavioral and mental health fields, which has only exacerbated the 
concurrent substance use crisis and suicide crisis that Tribes across 
the country are facing in their communities. Workforce challenges--and 
the impacts on care that come with them--are one of the top concerns 
raised to the Department by Tribes. The proposed legislative changes 
would: 1) Extend Title 38 personnel authorities, to enable IHS to offer 
specialized pay and benefits for health providers; 2) Provide tax 
exemption for recipients of IHS scholarship and loan repayment 
benefits, and allow these recipients to meet their service obligations 
on a half-time basis; 3) Enable IHS to fulfill mission- critical 
emergency hiring needs; 4) Provide IHS authority to hire and pay 
experts and consultants; 5) Enable IHS to provide on-call pay to its 
healthcare providers; and 6) Enable U.S. Public Health Service 
Commissioned Corps officers to be detailed to Urban Indian 
Organizations.
                                closing
    The FY 2025 Budget makes critical strides toward the goal of 
ensuring stable and predictable funding to improve the overall health 
status of for AI/ANs. The Budget is a historic step and a continuation 
of an ongoing conversation with Tribes to ensure the IHS system is 
meeting the healthcare needs in Indian Country. HHS looks forward to 
working in consultation with Tribes, urban Indian organizations, and 
Congress to refine the FY 2026 mandatory proposal through the 
legislative process to strengthen the Nation-to-Nation relationship.

         IMPACTS OF CONTINUED LOWER FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2025

    Senator Merkley. Well, thank you very much to both of you. 
As I said earlier, I do not love the Fiscal Responsibility Act, 
which I believe was irresponsible given the challenges that we 
are facing. But I was very pleased with the outcome of our 2024 
Interior bill, and it was a pleasure to work with Ranking 
Member Murkowski as we protected core programs and tried to 
minimize any negative impacts. But we need more support for 
tribal schools, for tribal law enforcement, tribal healthcare, 
and so what do you see happening if fiscal year 2025 has 
another round of cuts? And you mentioned some of them, and I 
will just open up with that concern, see what you are all 
seeing from the executive side, either one of you or both of 
you.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you. Thank you for that question. The 
immediate that I have seen is, of course, a $73 million 
reduction in SCF. SCF, of course, is our water/sewer 
infrastructure to Indian Country, and any home that does not 
have water or sewer infrastructure is going to be impacted by 
some kind of a health issue. So the public health need here to 
make sure that we protect those sources of funds is absolutely 
critical.
    The second line item that we received a reduction is our 
electronic health records. Our electronic health records at 
plural the Indian Health Service is more than 40 years old, and 
learning today and knowing today how significant that is for 
any healthcare system is imperative that we continue to stay on 
track as much as we can with our schedule and keep moving that 
forward so we can deliver improved healthcare to American 
Indians and Alaska Natives. Thank you.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The short answer is 
that we will see cuts to important services across Indian 
Country. So at the fiscal year 2024-enacted level, that already 
limited our ability to hire law enforcement officers across 
Indian Country, which is laid out in my opening statement and 
submitted testimony. We are well short, far short of our 
obligation to Indian Country when it comes to public safety 
funding. It will limit our ability to replace schools that are 
in poor condition. We are already 30 years out from replacing 
all of those schools. It will limit our ability to ensure that 
people in BIA and Tribal detention centers are in humane 
conditions. Twenty-three of those jails are already rated in 
poor condition, and we estimate in today's funds, it will take 
over $600 million to replace those. So any cuts or limitations 
on our ability to make these investments will amplify what is 
already a big problem in so many tribal communities.

                      TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY PAYMENTS

    Senator Merkley. Now, a big challenge--and those challenges 
are made potentially higher by the pending Supreme Court case 
related to third-party billing within IHS programs, which would 
expand the responsibilities of what we have referred to as 
tribal sovereignty payments, administrative overhead, and 
leasing costs that the courts have said we need to pay. I have 
heard estimates that depending on how this Supreme Court 
decision comes out, it could result in immediate additional 
costs of $800 to $2 billion. Do you all have any update on that 
challenge? I think, Director Tso, this is more in your camp, 
and could you explain why that Court decision might increase 
the cost so much?
    Dr. Tso. Yeah. Thank you for that question. Two things. 
One, you know, we are definitely waiting for that final 
decision from the Supreme Court, but we are relying heavily on 
our current system that we have in place to calculate contract 
support costs, and we will continue to review those numbers to 
make sure that we do get to a more firm number as we move 
forward. Part of this also will require extensive tribal 
consultation that I want to be respectful for as we move 
towards agreement with tribes on how to calculate contract 
support costs.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you, and you mentioned the challenge 
with electronic medical records. I must say this is one of my 
personal frustrations that we have so many different systems 
and so many different parts of our government makes absolutely 
no sense to me at all. We have to reinvent this time and time 
again. So I am going to ask my team to follow up on that, 
better understand where we are in that process, why it is we 
could not just adopt an electronic medical record system that 
had been developed for another Agency rather than trying to 
invent it from scratch. Back when we were working on the 
Affordable Care Act, I really lobbied for us to have one system 
across America. We ended up instead saying let's just make it 
free competition, which we have many systems, many systems that 
do not talk to each other. It does not serve the health of 
Americans, and it has amplified the overall cost a thousand 
times over. So just a personal frustration on that part.

                       LAW ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES

    Secretary Newland, talk a little bit more about the law 
enforcement challenge that we are facing and what we should be 
doing and we are not getting done.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, there are so 
many components to this. I will note that right now, the BIA 
funds 198 law enforcement programs across Indian Country. That 
includes 34 direct service Tribes where the BIA is responsible 
for policing and 164 Tribally-contracted law enforcement 
programs. That is less than half of all federally-recognized 
Tribes in the country, and as Ranking Member Murkowski has 
noted, you know, many Tribes in Public Law 280 States are 
facing similar challenges without the commitment of Federal 
funding, and, Mr. Chairman, you and I have spoken about this 
before as well.
    So you know, the need is really high, and it is across the 
board, from law enforcement officers to Tribal courts to 
detention facilities, and they all affect one another. When 
Tribal courts are not fully staffed up, we get a lot more 
people in jails on pretrial detention. When people are housed 
in pretrial detention in the jails, that limits the capacity 
and we have to move staff around, and we have to move inmates 
around to different locations, which takes officers off the 
beat to transport them. And so these all feed on each other.
    And, you know, we hear regularly from Tribal leaders about 
the urgent need for more officers in their communities, and for 
those direct service communities where BIA is responsible, if 
there is a public safety crisis, we have to pull officers from 
one Tribe and detail them to respond to that crisis. And so 
what that does is it creates a law enforcement shortage in the 
communities from which we have detailed those officers. And the 
overall level of investment, you know, really leads to this 
situation, and that is why we have put forward, or the 
President has put forward in his budget proposal to make these 
investments, to add hundreds of officers to Tribal communities 
across the country, make investments in jail construction and 
operations and maintenance.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much. Let's turn to our 
ranking member, Senator Murkowski.

                CONTRACT SUPPORT COSTS AND 105(L) LEASES

    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to talk 
about contract support costs and 105(l) tribal lease payments. 
You know, from a budgetary perspective, this is one area that 
just continues to confound as we see these ever-escalating 
costs and just the unpredictability of it from a budgetary 
perspective. The request, again, proposes to reclassify 
contract support costs and 105(l) lease payments to mandatory 
beginning in fiscal year 2026.
    As I look at this, functionally, there is no difference to 
tribes if a reclassification happens since the Interior approps 
bill provides a full funding for these accounts. So can you 
share with me this is going to be directed to both of you, what 
the functional difference for your respective agencies would be 
if we do reclassify that. And then give me some kind of a 
status update in terms of what you each are doing to meet the 
legal requirement that was laid out in Maniilaq v. Burwell 
because both IHS and DOI have both been directed to establish 
these guidelines regarding the parameters for which a lease 
agreement should be structured and paid for, but it seems that 
the Agencies are taking a different approach here on how to 
structure those payments. So talk to me a little bit about CSC 
and 105(l)s, Director Tso.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you, Ranking Member, for that question. With 
regards to, again, contracts per costs and our request to move 
it over to mandatory for both CSC and 105(l), we believe that 
that is the best place for it to be to protect the rest of the 
Indian Health Service budget, the service and the facilities 
budget. We have experienced this year that, as a result of 
meeting those obligations, that we did face the reductions that 
we had in 2024. So that is our position with respect to 
believing that that is the best place for it to be to protect 
the budget for the Indian Health Service.
    Senator Murkowski. Assistant Secretary.
    Mr. Newland. Sure. Thank you, Ranking Member, for the 
question. With respect to 105(l) leases, you noted the surge in 
demand over the last few years. We have gone from fewer than 5 
to more than 600 in the pipeline. And so we have seen that, and 
we would be happy to provide some of the charts and data to you 
and your team. We have seen the growth and the impact that has 
on not only our staffing levels, but also, you know, our 
overall budget. With respect to the requirements from the case 
that you had mentioned, we have put guidelines in place for how 
we negotiate and reach these lease agreements with Tribes and 
provide technical assistance along the way, and will see in the 
budget requests that we have asked for additional staffing to 
help us with this because it has become a bottleneck. We are 
processing these with the same number of staff who did, fewer 
than five leases, so when they are providing technical 
assistance that is time away from processing these leases.
    Going back to your first question, Ranking Member, about, 
the impact on the budget given with respect to our mandatory 
proposal, I am going to ask our deputy assistant secretary to 
maybe speak on this for just a moment to be responsive.
    [The information follows:]
     requests for tribal 105(l) leases to interior fy 2021-fy 2025
    The 105(l) program currently has over 1,400 backlogged lease 
requests from FY 2021-FY 2024. We are still receiving new requests at a 
faster rate than we can process them. The program is not just growing 
but growing at an accelerated rate. We had requests from three Tribes 
in 2019 and have requests from one hundred twenty-eight Tribes as of 
the end of FY 2024. This significant growth underscores the importance 
of our collective efforts to manage it. We have requested additional 
FTE to implement the program through BIA's Operation of Indian Programs 
account in the FY 2025 President's Budget.
    Discretionary appropriations for the 105(l) program for recent 
years have grown from $21.6 million in 2021 and $36.6 million in 2022, 
to the projected amounts of $82.5.0 million in 2024, and $120.0 million 
in 2025. The interest in 105(l) payments is expected to be greater in 
future years.
    Once initiated, most leases will likely continue into future years, 
so the total program will only increase as new leases are added to the 
program, as existing rents increase, and as existing leases grow in 
scope. The need for appropriations for 105(l) leases is expected to 
grow rapidly based on current Tribal interest expressed in the program 
and the existing volume of lease applications. BIA is statutorily 
obligated to pay these lease costs.
    Recent President's Budgets, including for FY 2025, have proposed 
reclassifying 105(l) lease costs as mandatory funding. If 105(l) 
funding remains as discretionary appropriations, the expected continued 
growth of demand for these leases will exert more and more pressure on 
the overall amounts available for BIA's other programs funded with 
discretionary appropriations as well as the topline discretionary total 
for all of DOI.

    Mr. Freihage. Our response would be similar to IHS in that 
by having it in the same discretionary pot along with public 
safety and justice, law enforcement activities, social 
services, forestry, the full gamut of BIE schools, the growth 
of 105(l) is going to squeeze out those other discretionary 
investments. By realigning them on the mandatory side for what 
is already a mandatory legal requirement, simply matches the 
funding framework with the existing legal requirement to pay 
the leases.

                  MANDATORY VS. DISCRETIONARY FUNDING

    Senator Murkowski. Well, this is an area, again, where I 
think you have got a lot of attention from this committee. 
Director Tso, I want to ask you about the mandatory approps 
versus discretionary and the proposal that is contained. The 
mandatory formula would increase IHS funding pretty 
dramatically, $42 billion in fiscal year 2034. This is an 
increase of $35 billion over the 2024 total appropriation of $7 
billion. This switch is going to cost about $289 billion and 
would be charged to whichever committee enacted the change to 
mandatory, but I also note that there is no legislative 
proposal accompanying the President's budget to accomplish 
this.
    So the question is whether or not you are anticipating 
transmitting authorization language to account for the proposed 
shift, and has there been internal conversation about how to 
pay for the shift to mandatory appropriations because we just 
cannot talk about it on paper. You do that, it comes from 
somewhere. So has that been identified?
    Dr. Tso. Yes. Thank you, Ranking Member. I am going to ask 
my colleague, Jillian, to respond. Thank you.
    MS. Curtis: Thank you very much, Director, and thank you, 
Senator, for that question. The kind of key focus that the IHS, 
the administration has around preparing a legislative proposal 
for the mandatory budget request would be to partner with 
Congress in doing so. I know we have shared some technical 
assistance in previous years, but we would be happy to continue 
those conversations with the key staff on both the 
appropriations and the authorizing side.
    Senator Murkowski. So I take it you are not prepared to 
transmit authorizing legislation at this point in time?
    Ms. Curtis. Not today, no.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay. Thank you. We will next turn to 
Senator Heinrich.

                     IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STOP ACT

    Senator Heinrich. Thank you. Secretary Newland, in 2022, I 
passed the STOP Act to stop the illegal export of tribal 
objects of patrimony, sacred objects. Your budget request does 
not include any funding to implement the STOP Act. The last 
time I raised this issue, the Secretary gave me an answer about 
NAGPRA, but that is not my question. I want to know what your 
plans are, how you are going to implement the STOP Act, which 
is current law, and what funding will you use.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator, and we are very grateful 
for that bill being passed into law, and we have been working 
with Indian Country on developing regulations as called for in 
the law in concert with the Department of Homeland Security, 
the State Department, and the Department of Justice. Our 
estimate at this time is that that program would be of a 
similar size and scope as the Department's NAGPRA Program.
    Part of the consultation concerning the regulations is 
about where we house STOP Act implementation at the Department, 
and what we heard from Indian Country is that it would be best 
housed within the Indian Affairs Bureaus. And so we are trying 
to get to publication of these regulations that would formalize 
that and allow us to place it in our budget someplace. But 
Senator, I think to get to the heart of your question about the 
costs to implement this, we estimate that they would be of a 
similar size and scope as the Department's NAGPRA Program, 
given the nature of the work, and then as we get into years of 
implementation, we will get a better sense as to the need. I 
hope that is responsive.
    Senator Heinrich. I am concerned that we are going to put 
off getting started for another year, and even without funding, 
this law has seen some success already. So I would certainly I 
am going to work with my colleagues here on the committee to 
start trying to identify funding in this fiscal year so that we 
can get this up and going.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you.

                      GALLUP INDIAN MEDICAL CENTER

    Senator Heinrich. Director, so you joined me a couple years 
ago at the Gallup Indian Medical Center. It is shameful the 
condition that that facility is in. I know IHS has been working 
with the Navajo Nation to identify a replacement site. Do you 
have an update on when a site will be selected, and what is IHS 
doing to move this forward?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you, Senator. It is good to see you again. 
Yeah, I have been on a regular basis making contact with the 
Navajo Nation with respect to site selection. This is crucial 
for us to do the appropriate planning for this. In my recent 
conversation, I am expecting at any point that the Navajo 
Nation will complete phase two of the site selection for two 
locations that they are working on, so I am looking forward to 
that information as we move forward. However, as I think your 
staff was informed a couple weeks ago, the situation that we 
are in at the Gallup Indian Medical Center is absolutely dire. 
We have actually had to close that facility for 24 hours within 
the last 30 days and move patients because repair of a water 
line. It is not going to take much more, and I am not sure it 
has gotten any better since we were there together.
    So I appreciate the $66 million that we have appropriated 
for that, but just as we have completed the last planning, we 
are looking at a billion dollars. Knowing the cost of 
construction and everything that we are looking at, we are 
probably looking at least an additional 40 percent onto that to 
complete that new facility today.
    Senator Heinrich. Well, I look forward to working with you 
on this. It is long, long overdue and incredibly important for 
that portion of Indian Country.

                       LAW ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES

    Secretary Newland, I secured funding in the fiscal year 
2024 appropriations bill for four new ballistics testing 
machines in New Mexico, and that is going to include one in 
Farmington and one in Gallup. These machines can help solve gun 
crimes in neighboring tribal communities as well. So I just 
want to urge BIA law enforcement to look to partner with the 
New Mexico Attorney General, who is going to be housing and 
looking after those new machines to come up with an agreement 
so that BIA law enforcement can spend their time driving to 
other NIBIN machines. I mean, you know well the challenges of 
distance and how much time BIA law enforcement spends driving 
someplace. This is an opportunity for us to turn that around 
and be able to process evidence fairly close and then have 
those BIA officers spending more of their time actually 
enforcing the law, so would love to work with you on that.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. We are absolutely 
committed to working with you and also the State on making sure 
we are keeping people safe in their communities and allowing 
police officers to be police officers.
    Senator Heinrich. Amen.
    Senator Murkowski. Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Murkowski, and thank 
you all for being here today.
    The Santee Sioux Nation, which is located in Northeast 
Nebraska, has been under a no-drink order since 2019, and that 
is nearly 5 years. The water from Sante Sioux Nation's wells 
contains more than 50 times the safe limits of manganese, 
which, as you know, can cause serious adverse health effects. 
Multiple studies from different agencies, including two from 
IHS, have all shown the same thing. Santee and the surrounding 
areas are isolated from Nebraska's major population centers, 
and they must rely on bottled water, which is costly. In fact, 
the tribe pays $14,000 a month to buy that bottled water. The 
tribe received a grant from the BIA during the pandemic for 
around $150,000 for the bottled water. The funding from that 
grant ran out in 8 months. The tribe has a plan to remedy this 
problem and is pursuing funding from many different sources, 
and while they have had some success, the total cost of this 
project will be very expensive. In 2021, I was proud to vote 
for the Infrastructure Bill, which provided billions to IHS for 
sanitation projects just like this.
    Assistant Secretary Newland and Director, so can I have 
both of your commitments to work with me and the Santee Sioux 
Nation to fix this problem once and for all?
    Dr. Tso. Yes, certainly with the Indian Health Service.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Mr. Newland. Yes, Senator.

              FUNDING FOR TRIBAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES

    Senator Fischer. Thank you. We look forward to getting this 
solved. Nebraska is also the home to two tribal colleges, 
Little Priest Tribal College and the Nebraska Indian Community 
College. These schools and other tribal colleges, which are 
often located in very rural areas, do a wonderful job in 
educating and preparing native and non-native students alike to 
have successful futures. Funding from the Department of 
Interior is critical. It is a critical part in these 
institutions' budgets, particularly in supporting operational 
costs as well as maintenance and repairs.
    For example, many of the campus buildings at Little Priest 
Tribal College are decades old, with some dating back to the 
1950s and in need of continuous maintenance and repair to 
ensure a safe learning environment for the students. Flat 
funding from DOI for TCUs means that they have to use other 
resources to support these operational costs, and it also 
results in them having to defer key maintenance projects, which 
leads to higher costs down the road. A budget request is a 
statement of priorities. While DOI's budget requests for Indian 
programs flat funds these key programs for TCUs, it proposes 
funding increases elsewhere, like a nearly $14 million increase 
for climate resilience and environmental justice programs at 
BIA.
    Given the limitations of budget caps for fiscal year 2025, 
I am concerned about the Department's priorities for Indian 
programs. Mr. Assistant Secretary, can you explain the 
rationale behind the Department asking for flat funding for our 
TCUs?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. First, let me express my 
gratitude to you for advocating for TCUs. I sat on the board of 
a Tribal college.
    Senator Fischer. They are fabulous.
    Mr. Newland. My wife presently teaches at a Tribal college, 
and, you know, one of the challenges I think everyone here, 
including the Committee members, understands is, with limited 
resources, trying to direct them where they are most needed. We 
develop our budget proposal in concert with Tribal leaders 
through the Tribal Interior Budget Council, and often our 
priorities are a reflection of that ongoing dialogue. I have 
heard from a number of Tribal leaders across the country about 
the present-day impacts of climate change. We have been asked 
to help them deal with the present-day effects of that, and the 
budget reflects that, and it is not necessarily a statement 
that Tribal colleges are not important.
    I agree with you that when Tribal colleges have investments 
and opportunities that really, really good things happen on the 
ground for people. We have requested $16 million for Tribal 
college and university facilities and, want to work with 
members of the Committee and you, Senator, and leaders of 
Tribal colleges to make sure that we are continuing to invest 
in those colleges because, again, they do just amazing things.
    Senator Fischer. I look forward to working with you on 
that, and for the record, I would like to submit some questions 
to you as well dealing with a shortage of officers on the 
Winnebago Reservation. Thank you.
    Senator Murkowski. Thank you, Senator Peters.

                  MISSING OR MURDERED INDIGENUS PEOPLE

    Senator Peters. Thank you, Senator Murkowski, and to our 
witnesses, welcome. It is good to have you here, and thank you 
for your service to our country. Secretary Newland, great to 
see you, a friend from Michigan, and it is always a pleasure to 
be in your company and appreciate your work.
    In my conversations with tribal leaders in Michigan, the 
issue of missing and murdered indigenous people MMIP arises, 
unfortunately, all too often. Indigenous persons, as you know, 
experience disproportionately high rates of violence and, 
relatedly, are reported missing or murdered at rates many times 
the national average. Michigan has not been spared from this 
crisis. Early this month, hundreds gathered in Grand Rapids, 
Michigan to demand justice for the crisis and mark May 5, which 
President Biden proclaimed as Missing or Murdered Indigenous 
Persons Awareness Act.
    So my question for you, sir, is how does your fiscal year 
2025 budget request support continuing work to achieve justice 
in these cases as well as address the broader crisis that we 
have dealing with?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator, and it is great to see you 
again as well. First, the budget starts with increased 
investments in Tribal justice systems, and I want to also note 
that when we talk about that, we often are thinking about 
Tribal justice in terms of cops and courts and jails, but it 
also includes increases to the Tiwahe Initiative, which 
supports a lot of the work that Tribes are doing on the front 
end to prevent bad things from happening in the first place.
    And so when you include the Tiwahe Initiative increases 
that we have proposed, that total budget is over $700 million. 
It maintains investments in the Missing and Murdered Unit that 
Secretary Haaland has established, and Ranking Member Murkowski 
and I discussed yesterday at a separate hearing about our 
ongoing work to fully staff that up. And then, of course, make 
sure that we are closely coordinating with the FBI and U.S. 
attorney's offices on enforcement and prosecution of cases, 
especially when they cross reservation boundaries.

                RIGHTS PROTECTION IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM

    Senator Peters. Very good. I am certainly very proud that 
Michigan is the home of over 50,000 native people and 12 
federally-recognized tribal nations. And several of these 
tribes, as you well know, benefit annually from the Bureau of 
Indian Affairs Rights Protection Implementation Program, the 
RPI. In Michigan, RPI funding enables a number of federally-
recognized tribes to establish and enforce conservation-based 
fishing, hunting, and gathering regulations, invasive species 
monitoring, and other biological support services.
    So my question for you, sir, is could you explain how full 
funding for the Bureau's Rights Protection implementation 
program is absolutely critical, not just for our great State of 
Michigan, but all across the Great Lakes region?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. I could probably speak all 
day about how great that is because I think it is an example 
of----
    Senator Peters. If you can do it a minute-45, that would be 
great.
    Mr. Newland. Yeah.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Newland. It is a win-win because what it does is it 
also allows Tribes to establish, you know, the departments with 
professional staff, biologists and wildlife and environmental 
technicians who go out and do this work, things like spraying 
boats off at the boat launch to prevent the transfer of 
invasive species. And really, that is augmenting Federal 
wildlife and environmental staff, State wildlife and 
environmental staff, and now you have adding Tribes to the mix, 
along with their traditional knowledge and practices as well. 
And it is putting more eyes on a lot of these threats to 
ecosystems, like the Great Lakes, so we can respond to those 
threats sooner, and also amplifies the resources we have to 
respond when we see them.
    Senator Peters. Well, thank you, and thank you for your 
leadership and working on that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. [Presiding.] Senator Hoeven.

                              CAMP GRAFTON

    Senator Hoeven. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Secretary 
Newland, as I mentioned to you yesterday at Indian Affairs 
Committee hearing, 2 weeks ago, I asked Secretary Haaland for a 
commitment to continue supporting the work of the Advanced 
Training center at Camp Grafton. Secretary Haaland stated she 
would speak with you about the advanced training center and 
have staff work with our team to continue the good work that is 
being done at Camp Grafton. And as a member of the Approps 
Committee, I have continued to advocate for growing the number 
and type of training taking place at the advanced training 
center. Also, as I noted yesterday, the BIA recorded 5,429 law 
enforcement public safety personnel participating in training 
programs offered across all BIA police training facilities. Of 
this roughly 5,500 participants, about 4,000 training 
participants, obviously, well more than half, receive their 
training at the Advanced Training Center. It is also worth 
noting that the North Dakota National Guard, which owns and 
conducts its own training camp at Camp Grafton has been a 
tremendous partner to both the BIA and the ATC.
    Can I once again get your commitment to work with us to 
leverage the ATC and ensure it has the necessary resources to 
provide advanced training so we can get more BIA law 
enforcement officers out on the reservation?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. Yes.
    Senator Hoeven. Very good. Thank you. I know it has been a 
long time since yesterday. I just want to make sure.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Newland. I always love also when my boss says, go talk 
to Bryan.
    (Laughter.)
    Mr. Newland. Thank you.

                       PROGRESS ACT IMPLENTATION

    Senator Hoeven. Thanks for your help and support on that. 
Administrator Tso, the PROGRESS Act, we passed, I do not know, 
a couple years ago. Anyway, it is to streamline 638 contract 
and giving tribes more control over services on the 
reservation, right? And so my question is, we passed it and 
then we passed it a second time because the rulemaking did not 
get done in time, so we have actually passed it twice. But what 
is the status? How are coming on that? Again, the whole idea is 
to expedite, you know, the ability of tribes for self-
determination and forth. And like in the Farm Bill, we will 
probably more with FDPIR and food programs and that kind of 
thing. So what are we doing on that?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you for that question. At present, we have 
64 percent of our tribes that have contracted and compacted 
with the Indian Health Service, so we really are passing money 
directly to the tribes as they continue to do that. We also, 
right now, are in a number of negotiations that are working and 
moving as quickly as we can get them moved forward, and we 
anticipate that there are at least 11 tribes that are 
interested in contracting and compacting, and that we will 
execute those agreements within the timelines required.

                      SUPPORT FOR TIBAL HEALTHCARE

    Senator Hoeven. Yeah, it is a good program, and we want to 
make sure the tribes that want to take advantage of it can do 
so, yeah, and then my other question for you relates to 
healthcare services. Over the last decade, funding for IHS has 
grown, but the life expectancy for American Indian and Alaska 
Natives is 11 years below that of other populations in the 
United States. Now, the budget before us is $ billion, or 
includes $8 billion discretionary funding, which is a 14-
percent increase over the fiscal year 2024 level. So we are 
increasing the resources, but, wow, we have not seeing the 
catch-up in terms of longevity for both American Indians and 
Alaska Natives.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you for pointing that out again, Mr. 
Senator. I really appreciate that. You know, there are a number 
of things that Indian Health Service continues to deal with 
across the board. I would say that the topics that keep me up 
at night is our workforce----
    Senator Hoeven. Yeah.
    Dr. Tso. [continued] and across the country, how fragile 
the healthcare system is across the country, let alone that to 
Indian Country. So really looking at, again, the equities, the 
legislative proposals that we have asking for to make sure that 
we are on parity with the--at least the Veterans Administration 
or other Federal organizations, is very important.
    Senator Hoeven. That is one of my questions.
    Dr. Tso. We have yet to talk about mental health today and 
how that is just absolutely critical right now in terms of the 
work that we have doing, and everything that we do, it crosses 
over to the questions about law enforcement and all of these 
entities that need to come together when we are talking about 
this.
    And then the last thing I would say are the social 
determinants of health that are directly impacting our people 
every single day. I was out visiting a food distribution center 
within the last 45 days, and realizing now that our people in 
Indian Country either have to choose between food stamps or a 
food box, and that more of our tribal people are choosing that 
food box versus securing--using food stamps. That just tells me 
that we are in such a place now. And of course, I looked at the 
box that was being provided, and many of those things that were 
in the box were not exactly healthy items. That then creates 
other health issues.
    Senator Hoeven. With the indulgence of the chair, I will 
finish up here quickly, but okay, so you went right to my next 
question, which was behavioral health. I appreciate that. And 
that, going back to 638 on the food, is why that is so 
important because in the Farm Bill, you know, we set up a pilot 
program, and now in the Farm Bill, we are going to continue to 
expand that, and that is going to give tribes more control over 
the food that they can get, you know, for their tribes. So 
whether it is bison or things that grow on reservation, all 
those kind of things, that opens that up for them. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much, Senator, and we have 
going to turn now to Senator Sinema.

                    INDIAN WATER RIGHTS SETTLEMENTS

    Senator Sinema. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, and thank you 
to our witnesses for being here today. Delivering results for 
tribal communities in Arizona has been one of my top priorities 
in the Senate, and I look forward to discussing a number of key 
issues with you both.
    The Federal Government's trust responsibilities to deliver 
water to our tribal communities is one of our most important 
duties. Last Congress, I was proud to introduce and secure 
unanimous support of the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement 
Act. This law ratifies the Hualapai Tribe's Colorado River 
Water Settlement Agreement and delivers approximately 4,000 
acre feet of critically-needed water per year to the tribe. The 
President's budget requests $45 million for this settlement in 
fiscal year 2025. Assistant Secretary Newland, what is the 
BIA's priority for funding this agreement, and will the Federal 
Government meet its obligation regarding the enforceability 
date?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. First it was my honor to 
visit Hualapai twice, once before the settlement to discuss it 
with Tribal leadership and we stood down on the banks of the 
river, and once to celebrate the settlement, so thank you for 
that. We have asked for $45 million to fund this, but on top of 
that, we have also asked for $2.8 billion in mandatory funding 
over the next 10 years to support the implementation of water 
settlements like the Hualapai bill. And it is every bit our 
intention to make sure that when a settlement is reached--and 
Members of Congress work hard to enact it--that we fulfill our 
obligations to ensure that it is fully implemented.
    Senator Sinema. And so are you on track for the 
enforceability date?
    Mr. Newland. I believe so that we are, and, again, these 
investments that the President has requested will allow us to 
help make that happen.

               105(L) LEASES AND CONTRACTS SUPPORT COSTS

    Senator Sinema. Thank you. In recent years, 105(l) payments 
for tribal leases and contract support costs have created the 
situation where escalating requirements are negatively 
impacting the ability to use discretionary appropriations to 
support core tribal programs like health, education, and 
construction programs, or to provide essential fixed-cost 
requirements. So Assistant Secretary Newland, in the 
Department's written testimony for this hearing and in 
testimony at other Senate and House hearings, you have 
expressed support for the President's request to reclassify 
both 105(l) leasing and contract support costs to mandatory 
funding. Can you explain why this is so important and what 
impact will be on the Federal budget and the Department's 
funding if we do not make the change? And then after that, 
Director Tso, can you provide IHS' view on this matter as well? 
Thank you.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. Well, first, these 
payments are mandatory, so we do not have a choice once a Tribe 
has requested to enter a 105(l) lease and provide those 
payments. And if they are mandatory to provide, you know, it is 
our view that the funding should match that legal obligation. 
We have seen this program grow exponentially or not 
exponentially, but significantly over the last 5 years, and 
that puts a squeeze on our discretionary funding for programs. 
And without mandatory funding and without this level of 
investment through appropriations, we are going to be forced to 
choose between fulfilling our legal obligations or providing 
the other funding that Congress appropriates for these programs 
to Tribes. And I do not think that is a position the Department 
wants to be in, and I do not believe that is a position that 
Congress wants the Nation to be in either. Thank you.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you for that question. Of course, the same 
as what the assistant secretary is saying. But, you know, we 
have seen in 2024, the direct impact of where contract support 
costs in 105(l) sit right now today with a reduction of $440 
million. That impacted IHS. As a result, I was trying to cover 
our responsibilities for that. We also believe that moving it 
into mandatory, moving both of those accounts into mandatory 
will protect the IHS Service's and facility budget.

                          CONSTRUCTION BACKLOG

    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Director Tso, I was proud to 
deliver a historic $3.5 billion to address the construction and 
maintenance backlog of IHS sanitation facilities. Can you 
provide me with a progress report on where IHS is at clearing 
the project backlog?
    Dr. Tso. Yes, thank you for that question as well. In 2024, 
the Indian Health Service with the 2024 allocation, we are now 
looking at 91 additional projects that we are working on that 
will address 10,000 homes across Indian Country. We are also to 
date tracking 680 projects total that will improve the homes of 
our tribal communities for 102,000 individuals that live across 
Indian Country. So we know that we have a ways to go. We are 
also struggling with a workforce issue, but we also have 
updates on our website at the IHS that is tracking every 
project, every dollar, and every timeline, and that is our 
commitment to make sure that we are accountable and transparent 
with the dollars that we appreciate receiving. Thank you.
    Senator Sinema. Chairman, I know my time has expired, if I 
might ask one quick follow-up up question?
    Senator Merkley. Yes, very quickly, please.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. You know, it is imperative that 
another backlog does not develop, so what IHS' plan to continue 
providing for these projects after those infrastructure funds 
expire?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you again for that question. So we have been 
working to make sure that we are crossing over not just on 
these dollars, but working across the Federal Government with 
our partners to make sure we just signed an agreement with BOR 
of some of the work that we can do to make sure that we are 
combining all of our resources together and leveraging that to 
complete projects, not just the ones that are on the current 
list, but the backlog that is also growing today.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Thank you very much. Senator Tester.

                           PILI 638 CONTRACTS

    Senator Tester. I thank the chairman and ranking member for 
having this hearing. I want to thank you all for being here. It 
is good to see you. Thanks. I am going to ask you a couple 
questions here, Bryan. It has nothing to do with the budget. I 
am going to get to that in a minute.
    We got tribes in Montana that have 638 contracts for law 
enforcement, and nd then we got tribes in Montana that depend 
on the BIA for law enforcement. On 638 contracts, do you look 
at that? Do the tribes get the same amount of money as the BIA 
would normally spend on a 638 contract?
    Mr. Newland. Are you asking?
    Senator Tester. So what I am asking is if BIA provides the 
law enforcement and then they want to go with the 638, do they 
get the same amount of money the BIA was spending anyway, or do 
they get nicked back a bit?
    Mr. Newland. That is not what the law says. So one of the 
challenges we face, Senator, is, you know, as new Tribes come 
into 638 we cannot pull funding from other Tribes that already 
have a contract.
    Senator Tester. I have got you, but what I am saying is, is 
BIA spends X amount of dollars for law enforcement, and that 
tribe does not want the BIA doing it anymore. They think they 
can do a better job, and they want to do the 638. Is that money 
for the 638 contract an equivalent amount than what would be 
spent by the BIA to provide that same law enforcement?
    Mr. Newland. It is supposed to be, Senator.
    Senator Tester. Okay. I would like to ask you to look into 
that because I have had a lot of tribes, not once, not twice, 
but many times say, look, they spend far less on us than they 
do. That is one point. Second point is this: is this budget 
adequate to take care of law enforcement? Now, you know better 
than anybody, law enforcement in Indian Country is not so good. 
I think many of the tribes are large land-based tribes are 
bigger in the States, and they just have a few officers.
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                    public law 638 contract payments
    When a Tribe initially contracts or compacts for work related to a 
[law enforcement or other] BIA program under ISDEAA, 25 U.S.C. Section 
5325(a)(1) requires the BIA to fund that contract/compact at the level 
of funding ``that is no less than the appropriate Secretary would have 
otherwise provided for the operation of the programs or portions 
thereof for the period covered by the contract'' (i.e., Secretarial 
amount).
    This most often equates to the annual amount BIA expended in prior 
years to provide the service directly to the Tribe. Through 
negotiations with a Tribe, the ``Secretarial amount'' is established 
for the specific program being contracted in the initial contract year 
and once agreed upon, the amount establishes the Tribe's ``base 
funding'' for the program, function, service, or activity (PFSA) 
contracted, going forward.

    Mr. Newland. Right.
    Senator Tester. And what we have seeing is what crooks do. 
They will go to where they can get away committing crimes, and 
sometimes that is an Indian Country. So my question for you is, 
is this budget adequate to take care of the crime issues that 
are occurring in Indian Country?
    Mr. Newland. I will say this, Senator, in response. We have 
reported to Congress just several months ago that the total 
need and obligation is $3.1 billion.
    Senator Tester. Yes.
    Mr. Newland. And our budget request through the BIA is over 
$600 million dollars. I cannot find the exact number, but $650 
million.
    Mr. Freihage. Six-fifty-one.
    Mr. Newland. Yeah, $651 million.
    Senator Tester. So the budget request is $651 million and 
need is $3.1 billion.
    Mr. Newland. Correct.
    Senator Tester. How can we expect Indian Country to be now, 
so where did this come from? So one of the things that I have 
been on this committee for a while now, and one of the things 
that I always argue is you can never get what you need unless 
you tell people what you need.
    Mr. Newland. Right.
    Senator Tester. How are you telling us a different story 
here? I mean, $650 million versus $3.1 billion? Now, I am not 
sure it will take $3.1 billion, but I am telling you what we 
got right now is inadequate.
    Mr. Newland. Correct. So, Senator, what I will say in 
response to that is I will voice 100-percent agreement with you 
and other Members of the Committee that we need more officers. 
We need more funding for law enforcement in Indian Country, and 
we have proposed to increase by $33 million the amount of 
funding that would allow us to hire more cops.
    Senator Tester. Okay. That is good because I think more 
cops on the beat are important. The MMIP problem, people have 
talked about it, I am sure. I was not here for the whole 
hearing, but they were here when I was here talking about it. 
It will not ever going to be fixed unless we get some more 
people on the beat. Would you agree?
    Mr. Newland. I would agree with that, Senator.
    Senator Tester. Well, we got a serious problem and it needs 
to be fixed, and people are dying because of it and that is not 
an overstatement. People are dying. Lives are being ruined. It 
is a problem. I need you to be more vocal, okay?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you.
    Senator Tester. You got a great chairman and ranking member 
on this committee. They understand the issues that are out 
there. We need to drive it home to the rest of this committee 
and Congress, so that is number one.

                          HEALTH CARE STAFFING

    Now, I have got to talk to you, Director. The statistics 
show that Native Americans live 17 years fewer. They die 17 
years quicker than everybody else. I think it is because of 
healthcare. Crime is a part of it, but we have just going to 
assume the healthcare thing. You got a diabetes epidemic. You 
have got folks--the life and limb stuff, which I have not heard 
about with the advanced funding, but the truth is, it is still 
out there. How are you set right now as far as recruitment of 
doctors and nurses and support staff in Indian Country?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you for that question, Senator. We are, 
across the board, at 29 percent vacancy rate at the Indian 
Health Service right now.
    Senator Tester. So you are at about a third less. Does this 
budget get you to a point where you can fill those positions?
    Dr. Tso. No.
    Senator Tester. And how much is this? I hate to ask this 
question. How much is this part of the budget short? The law 
enforcement was $2.5 billion short. How much is this one short?
    Dr. Tso. In the recent consultation that we had with 
tribes, their estimate for the healthcare need is at $53 
billion.
    Senator Tester. And how much is in this budget?
    Dr. Tso. A little bit over $8 billion.
    Senator Tester. I mean, how do you fulfill trust 
responsibilities with those kind of numbers? I do not--you 
know, I am way over time, and Van Hollen is going to kick me 
out of here in a minute, but I do not know what we do about 
this. I do know that you guys understand this issue, but we 
have got to do better, and we have got to figure out how to do 
better. We put you guys in a lose-lose position. We will bring 
you in front of the committees and we will beat the crap out of 
you because you are not doing your job, but if you do not have 
the resources to be able to--now, if you are wasting the money, 
you have going to hear about it, but the truth is, if you have 
not wasting the money, we need more cops on the beat, we need 
more doctors, we need more nurses, the works. Otherwise, these 
numbers are going to continue to grow. Cartels are going to 
continue to move into Indian Country. Thank you.
    Senator Merkley. Senator Tester, thank you very much for 
really hammering that point home. Much appreciated. Senator Van 
Hollen.

                       HEALTH CARE FUNDING NEEDS

    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, 
Ranking Member Murkowski, and thank you, Assistant Secretary 
Newland and Director Tso for being here and your team. You 
know, I am proud to say that Maryland is home to American-
Indian and Alaskan-Native communities, sizable numbers. People 
do not think about Maryland that way. We have three State-
recognized tribes the Piscataway Indian Nation, Piscataway 
Conoy Tribe, and the Accohannock Tribe. We have also the proud 
home of the Indian Health Service. And I do want to associate 
myself with the remarks of Senator Tester on the budget because 
I have not served on this subcommittee as long as he has, but 
there is a chronic underfunding of the Indian Health Service.
    And now because you have many members of tribes living off 
of reservations and in urban settings, ensuring access to 
comprehensive, culturally-relevant healthcare at the urban 
Indian organizations is critical for our communities. And it is 
especially important that American-Indian and Alaska-Native 
people continue to--because they continue to face the currently 
the worst health outcomes, as we just heard from Senator Tester 
and as you know. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, 
these communities have the shortest life expectancy compared to 
all other racial and ethnic groups.
    The Indian Health Service spends about 1 percent of its 
overall budget on the Urban Indian Health Program, so Dr. Tso, 
what are some of the limitations today to urban Indian--Indian 
health organizations being able to provide the care they need 
to, and what are some specific proposals in the 
administration's budget that might address that issue?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you very much for that question. Of course 
in 2025, we are asking for an increase for the urban programs. 
As I travel across Indian Country and particularly to our urban 
programs, the work that they do in our urban communities is 
amazing with the resources that we give them. And so there is a 
lot that we can learn from the urban programs in terms of how 
creative they are and what they can do to stretch that dollars 
as we move forward. However, what we are looking at, at the 
Indian Health Service is trying to streamline and improve how 
the Indian Health Service works with the urban programs to 
build those efficiencies to make sure that we support them in 
everything that they do.
    One of the things that I have been working on is making 
sure that, again, their ability to get reimbursement that is 
equal or similar to the Indian Health Service is absolutely 
critical. So when we talk about having a hundred percent FMAP 
reimbursement or using the Indian Health Service all-inclusive 
rate is absolutely critical. Again, just building parity across 
Indian Country is something that I would like to see happen, 
either one of those, either use the IHS all-inclusive rate or 
build in the 100 percent FMAP for the urban programs. That 
would take them a significant ways to meet the needs of the 
people they serve.
    Senator Van Hollen. Well, thank you for identifying that 
issue. I do look forward to working with you to make that 
happen because I met recently, you know, with some of our 
communities that have been, you know, negatively impacted by 
the lack of resources to the Urban Indian Health services.
    As you know, the President's budget for the Indian Health 
Service includes targeted funding to address some of the most 
pressing public health challenges, including identifying HIV, 
hepatitis C, and substance use conditions that are often co-
occurring. And I want to focus specifically on hepatitis C 
because the treatment for Hepatitis C is very effective, nearly 
98-percent recovery over a 12-week period. And yet because of 
barriers to care, including cost and prior authorization 
requirements, close to 4 million people in the United States 
are estimated to have chronic hepatitis C. Many do not know 
that they have the symptoms in time for accurate diagnosis and 
unintentionally spread the virus. I am actually working on a 
bipartisan proposal to address this.
    But I would like to know more about what you thinking and 
planning is on these issues because hepatitis C is the leading 
cause of liver failure and cancer, claiming the lives of almost 
15,000 Americans each year. So Dr. Tso, can you talk about the 
disproportionate impact of hepatitis C on American-Indian and 
Alaska-Native communities and current barriers to diagnosis, 
screening, and treatment?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you for that question, Senator. So one of 
the things that we are seeing across, of course, we know that 
as the 2021 data presents, that American Indians and Alaska 
Natives have 3 times the rate of other nationalities or other 
groups of people. And then we also have 3 times the rate of 
mortality when it comes to hep C, but we also agree that they 
are absolutely treatable. And of course, the President's 2025 
budget asked for additional $10 million to address this, and we 
are looking today at expanding screening and testing at every 
opportunity that we have, and we will continue to do that.
    We have also targeting pre- and post-exposure therapies 
that will help our patients that might fall into this category, 
and working with our tribal representatives that are on the 
ground to make sure that we communicate and educate as much as 
we can. That is absolutely critical in what we do, and, of 
course, the coordination across a tribal healthcare system, or 
a community rather, is so important to make sure that there is 
understanding and education of how we can beat this, how we can 
make sure that we are treating hep C for all of our patients.
    Senator Van Hollen. Thank you. I appreciate that. And you 
know, it is a tragedy when you have got a disease that is 
killing this many people when we have a treatment that we know 
works, right, almost 100 percent of the time. So people are 
needlessly dying in the United States from Hep C. We have a 
cure. We just need to make sure that we identify the people who 
have it and make sure that they get this treatment. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.

                CHALLENGES IMPACTING TRIBAL COMMUNITIES

    Senator Merkley. Thank you, Senator. I am going to ask just 
one question given the shortness of time, and then submit the 
rest of my questions for the record, then I am going to turn 
over the hearing to Senator Murkowski, and she will close out 
the hearing when she completes her questions.
    I hold a town hall in each of my 36 counties each year, and 
folks are welcome to come and talk about whatever they want. In 
Umatilla County this weekend, five young tribal members from 
the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Reservation came and 
spoke.
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    Senator Merkley. They are the five who are in the center of 
this picture above. Their names are Sunhawk, Awna'e, Abigayle, 
Lisa, and Luka. They asked me the following questions, so I am 
asking you those questions. They wanted to know what more we 
can do to address the challenge of missing and murdered 
indigenous women and girls. They asked what we can do to 
decrease drug addiction, what we can do better to address 
suicide, and how we can provide more mental health resources. I 
will start with you, Director Tso, since these are mostly 
healthcare questions.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you again, Mr. Chairman. Some very tough 
questions there in terms of the work that we do at the Indian 
Health Service. Absolutely this is something that we need to 
make sure that we have using all available strategies, whether 
they are telehealth, again, being at the community level to 
better understand what are the challenges there, what can we 
do, and to make sure that we are mitigating some of these 
activities. The education, the mental health, again, I think 
has so much to do in this space, and more work needs to be done 
in that--in that particular area to make sure that we are 
creating a healthy a healthy place for people.
    One of the things that I want to do before the end of the 
year is really look at our ability to utilize joint venture 
authority to make sure that there are facilities outside the 
traditional hospitals and clinics, but maybe looking at 
treatment centers, treatment facilities that need to be built, 
that need to be available and closer to the homes of tribal 
community members so they can go and seek treatment. Right now, 
even those are scarce. So when a patient is ready to go, you 
have got to have a place for them to go or that time that will 
pass will probably pass on us. And so I think having more 
resources on the ground near tribal communities is critical.
    Senator Merkley. One of the things I am pondering is the 
fact that we have too few mental health counselors in America, 
and in particular we need trained tribal members in the context 
of tribal tradition and how we can possibly help increase the 
number of counselors. Would you like to add anything, Secretary 
Newland?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Chairman. You know, we have been 
talking a lot about resources and appropriations here. At the 
Senate Committee on Indian Affairs yesterday, we talked about 
safety, which you relayed from the young people, and I have 
spoken with you, Senator, Chairman, and Ranking Member 
Murkowski about some of the challenges with Public Law 280 and 
how that makes it difficult for Tribes to keep people safe. 
That law was passed in a time when Congress and the government 
were trying to terminate the existence of Tribes altogether. 
Fifty years ago, we relegated that policy to history's dust 
bin, but Public Law 280 continues to reach up from that era and 
hold us back.
    And when it comes to safety in communities, we are now 
trying to build a public safety regime based on self-
determination, on the foundation of a law that was passed 
during termination. And it really makes it difficult for Tribes 
to keep those young people safe when they do not have the 
ability to control how public safety is administered in their 
communities. And so that is one of the responses I would give 
to the young folks who have spoken to you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Merkley. Well, thank you, and I really compliment 
these five young tribal members for coming, stepping forward to 
make their questions at my town hall. And they are questions we 
should be asking all across America, and I know they have 
questions that you all are working on, and I will continue to 
follow up with you on that. With that, let's turn this over to 
Senator Murkowski.
    Senator Murkowski. [Presiding.] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Those are questions that we all seek answers to, so there is 
unified support trying to figure this out because it is about 
safety. It is about life. It is about community.

                            PROBATE BACKLOG

    I want to ask you a question, Assistant Secretary Newland, 
that I hear a lot about when I am back home, and this is the 
probate backlog. I mean, the words that I have in my notes are 
``unreasonably long periods of time.'' It is really 
unacceptably long periods of time. We are hearing that some of 
our Alaska-Native families are waiting 6 years before BIA is 
able to assemble their probate case for adjudication. And, 
okay, we understand that sometimes things just take some time, 
but think about what happens to these families while they are 
waiting. Their loved one has passed. There is no denying that. 
There is no turning back on that, but it then pauses or freezes 
the ability to do anything. More often than not, it is the 
home. It is the family home. And so you have a situation where 
families are denied ownership of their lands. They are unable 
to build a home or even to renovate an existing home.
    And so in one of the communities that I was in just 
recently, what I heard, we were doing a little drive-by--drive-
through in the community, and there was a home that they 
pointed out no one has lived in for 5 years. Now, the housing 
issue and this was Minto--very acute as it is in so many other 
places, and nobody can live in it until they wrap up the 
probate. And so I looked at the budget to see what you are 
looking at for probate casework services there at BIA. It is an 
increase, $1.2 million above the $14 million enacted. Just, I 
mean, you want to talk about a drop in the bucket to solve the 
problem.
    So we have asked BIA to provide us with a cost estimate for 
the resources that are needed to reduce the probate backlog to 
less than 2 years. We have not received a response on this, so 
I would ask that you get back to me in writing with an update. 
In doing that, I think we need you to share the same urgency 
that these families have. And I do not know whether you are 
considering whether the BIA can do more to actually support 
things like will-writing services or transfer-upon-death deeds 
to help keep the backlog from getting worse, but you have to 
admit that this is--this is just a travesty of a process right 
now.
    Mr. Newland. I agree, Ranking Member, and we have asked for 
that. I think my last check, the number of probate cases was 
well north of 40,000. And we can get you those exact numbers, 
and I will go back today, work with our team to make sure we 
get you a written response to your inquiry.
    You know, we work with the Office of Hearings and Appeals 
at the Department of the Interior on these. One of the other 
areas, not directly relevant in Alaska, Senator, but with 
probate is the level of fractionation across Indian Country. 
And the budget also requests a continuation of what began with 
the Cobell settlement to invest in land consolidation, which 
will help on the front end of that.
    Senator Murkowski. Right.
    Mr. Newland. But you are talking about the back end----
    when cases get to probate, and certainly there are--you 
know, we are trying to add to that, and we were just discussing 
this, I think, yesterday morning in out-years about how to 
address this problem more aggressively. But I will make sure we 
respond to your written inquiry.
    [The information follows:]
               addressing the backlog in probate services
    We have developed an estimate of the resources needed to reduce the 
current probate backlog to less than 1 year. This information is not 
intended to circumvent or foreshadow the President's annual budget 
request process under 31 U.S.C. 11, and the resource estimates in 
should not be construed to imply Administration support for levels of 
appropriations for this program beyond what is included in the FY 2025 
budget request.
    The following three Department of the Interior organizations have a 
role in the probate adjudication process. The Bureau of Indian Affairs 
(BIA) prepares the probate file; the Department's Office of Hearings 
and Appeals Probate Hearings Division (OHA PHD), an independent office, 
holds hearings and issues decisions determining heirs and devisees of 
trust assets; BIA distributes the trust real property and the Bureau of 
Trust Funds Administration (BTFA) distributes trust funds in accordance 
with the OHA PHD division.
    The currently estimated caseload backlog is 44,000 cases. 
Considering factors such as dependence on family members to provide 
documentation, at current funding and staffing levels, it is estimated 
to take 5- 6 years to inventory the current backlog of requests needed 
to develop a plan to get to a shorter time frame like a 2-3 year 
process backlog. The initial estimate developed assumes there would be 
an initial need for surge funding, with most of the increased workload 
on BIA occurring in the first year. The estimate assumes the OHA PHD 
would also will need to ramp up in the first year to have additional 
Judges appointed and trained and in place to accommodate the additional 
workload in the second year, generated by BIA's increase in probate 
caseload processing. BTFA would start to see an increased load in the 
third year.
    The initial estimate for the work required to reduce the probate 
backlog to less than 1 year is an annual increase of $38.1 million to 
support an additional 131 FTE. Of this annual increase, $26 million and 
74 FTE would be needed in BIA's Probate program.
    An increase of $26 million in the BIA Probate program would allow 
the organization to hire additional FTE, upgrade IT systems, and 
provide contractor support to increase probate case work capacity by 
2,000 cases each year across the Bureau. Additionally, $6 million 
annually would be targeted for the Alaska region because of the 
significant number of Tribes requiring service and the lack of 
information infrastructure and connectivity available in the region, 
which many of the Tribes in the lower 48 already have. The additional 
funding would also support Streamlining Strategy Projects over a seven-
year time period to focus efforts to:

  --Develop a centralized team that will handle death notices. This 
        would ensure the timely entry of all reported death notices 
        into the system. This would also allow the Probate field staff 
        to concentrate on case preparation rather than perform research 
        to determine if a person holds trust assets with the 
        Department. This would also eliminate the need to push 
        unnecessary research onto the staff that are working on cases 
        that have trust assets.

  --Establish a team to gather documentation and family information by 
        going out to the urban areas. Rather than waiting for potential 
        heirs to come to us, we would go out to them leveraging Indian 
        Centers to assist in developing outreach for the urban areas 
        that would be visited. The team will also work with Tribal 
        enrollment offices to gather information. This would allow the 
        probate staff to concentrate on actual case development for 
        submitting cases for adjudication.

  --Establish a team to encode data into the Trust Asset Accounting 
        Management System from the information that is gathered. This 
        would assist the Probate staff to more efficiently prepare the 
        cases for submission to the Office of Hearings and Appeals.

    This initial estimate assumes the Office of Hearing and Appeals 
would need an additional $7.3 million annually to support an increase 
of 31 FTE. Independent of BIA, the OHA-PHD plays a critical role in the 
probate process. Probate cases originate with the BIA Division of 
Probate which, after notification of death, prepares a case file by 
identifying potential heirs and sends the case file to OHA PHD. OHA PHD 
judges adjudicate the cases--hold hearings and issue decisions 
determining the rightful heirs of the trust or restricted property. OHA 
PHD legal staff notify all potential heirs of the Judge's decision and 
send the case file back to BIA and BTFA to distribute trust assets.
    OHA-PHD would require increased funding per year to keep pace with 
an increased caseload of 7,000 per year from BIA Probate and continue 
to meet mission critical needs. This additional funding would support 7 
new Judge Units for a total of 14 Judge Units. An OHA PHD Judge Unit is 
comprised of 1 staff Judge, .5 attorney advisor, 1.75 Legal Assistants, 
and 1 Paralegal, and each Judge Unit can process and adjudicate 
approximately 500 cases per year. This funding would also support 
additional planning with BIA to improve collaboration, as well as fund 
the associated equipment, training, information technology needs, 
hearing support, and additional office space requirements.
    The estimate assumes the BTFA would require an additional $4.8 
million per year to meet mission critical needs while reducing the time 
an Indian heir must wait for processing, adjudication and distribution 
of trust or restricted property after the death of someone who owns 
trust or restricted property. The additional FTE would allow BTFA to 
ramp up capacity in anticipation of an increased workload of 
approximately 2,000 additional probate cases which would be distributed 
on an annual basis. These funds would also allow BTFA to explore 
automation options to improve the efficiency of certain manual estate 
distribution processes. With these changes, BTFA anticipates that 
processing times for probate distributions would improve, and directly 
impact Indian trust beneficiaries (many of whom reside in some of the 
poorest communities in the country and often depend on timely 
distributions for daily necessities and subsistence).

    Senator Murkowski. What about support for some kind of 
assistance, again, whether it is will writing? It seems to me 
that there are little things that we can do.
    Mr. Newland. Right.
    Senator Murkowski. That we might not going to change you 
from your 6-year backlog to 2-year, but is the Agency looking 
at doing any more of this?
    Mr. Newland. I know that is something that, the first time 
I was at the Department of the Interior, that we had worked on. 
I can get you an answer on how that work goes.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay.
    Mr. Newland. And I know a big challenge in the past has 
been trust in the BIA, you know, when we show up and offer 
help, you know, building that that license and that trust in 
communities so that they view it as help and not as something 
else.
    Senator Murkowski. Well, it is something that we have 
failed in that trust responsibility. We have just absolutely 
failed there.

                       BUILD AMERICA BUY AMERICA

    Another issue that kind of tangentially relates on the 
housing side is the BABA, Build America, Buy America. And what 
we have seen is that you have got multiple agencies that have 
issued waivers from the application of the BABA requirements as 
applied to the tribal recipients. That is good, that helps, but 
the problem is that many of these are set to expire this 
summer, which is coming up pretty quick. And this includes 
HUD's Tribal General Applicability Waiver and a whole bunch of 
others. So I am sending a letter today to OMB requesting a 5-
year waiver of BABA preferences for all Federal financial 
assistance programs for tribes of infrastructure projects.
    So you know the issue. You know how challenged and 
challenging these requirements are. I think we all agree we 
would love to see more that is built here in this country and 
bought here. But when I have tribal housing authorities come 
and say the stove that will provide heat to these little 
houses, believe it or not, is only available in Japan, and so 
we do not have anything right now, so what am I going to do to 
get this house that we have0 now finished, give it a little bit 
of heat.
    So I guess the question to you is, how is the White House 
Council on Native American Affairs and the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs working with OMB on a more comprehensive approach to 
address the BABA implementation issues?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Senator. We are actually engaged or 
kicking off a tribal consultation process right now on this.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay.
    Mr. Newland. I think our first session is in June. We will 
be happy to get your team information on those dates and where 
they are going to be held and follow up on that. But this has 
been a source of or a subject of conversation at the Department 
and through the White House Council for some time.
    [The information follows:]
     implementation of build america, buy america in indian country
    The Buy America preference set forth in section 70914 of the Build 
America, Buy America Act (BABA) requires all iron, steel, manufactured 
products, and construction materials used for infrastructure projects 
under Federal financial assistance awards be produced in the United 
States. On September 1, 2023, DOI issued a 1-year general applicability 
waiver of the BABA requirements for financial assistance agreements 
awarded to Federally recognized Indian Tribes in accordance with the 
Uniform Administrative Requirements, Cost Principles, and Audit 
Requirements for Federal Awards, 2 CFR Part 200.
    DOI conducted two virtual Tribal consultation sessions on June 11 
and June 12, 2024. These sessions solicited Tribal input on challenges 
and concerns about DOI financial assistance programs and BABA 
requirements during the open period of the DOI Tribal BABA waiver. 
Comments were received and consolidated through DOI's Office of Grants 
Management and we are actively engaged with Departmental leadership to 
summarize Tribal impact for ongoing discussions with OMB.
    In addition, DOI has determined BABA does not apply to Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act (ISDEAA) agreements, which 
represent a substantial portion of BIA's direct awards to Tribal 
recipients. BIA is working through DOI to engage with OMB on impacts to 
Tribes.

    Senator Murkowski. Yeah. Well, it is as you know, and I 
think both of you have heard it in different applications in 
different areas, I think the whole table here. So help us with 
this because it is frustrating a lot of good initiatives, and I 
think in a way that was just not intended.

                        IHS FACILITIES IN ALASKA

    Director, so let me ask you about the joint venture, JVCP 
Program. We obviously see great benefit to this in Alaska right 
now. Mount Edgecomb Medical Center there in Sitka, which is a 
joint venture construction project, is requesting about $47 
million for staffing and operation of the new package. We are 
really excited about this. I think have you had a chance to see 
it?
    [Nonverbal response.]
    Senator Murkowski. If you have not been to Sitka yet, it 
should be on your travel list because this is--this is so far 
from the facility that has been basically providing for 
healthcare services since World War II era, so this is a big 
deal.
    But we have been seeking a little bit of clarity from IHS 
on the eligibility of tribes for a joint venture construction 
program if they have been awarded congressionally-directed 
spending. And that is going to matter because we get the 
requests, we want to do what we can to help facilitate it, but 
if it then is determined that a CDS funding for planning or 
design deems the tribe ineligible for JVCP consideration, that 
is an entirely different thing. So can you give me a little 
more clarity on that?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you, Ranking Member. So we are doing some 
work with regards to our joint venture, as I have shared 
before, that we are looking to run an updated joint venture, as 
Congress has directed us, between 3 to 5 years coming up here 
before summer. That is my goal. That is our timeline to run in 
a new application process before summer.
    As a result of that, and as a result of comments that I 
have received from tribes, we are also updating and reviewing 
our eligibility processes to make sure that they are fair and 
open to all tribes that choose to do that. So I am expecting 
that we will be making some changes with regards to our process 
to make sure, again, that it is fair and consistent.
    With regards to the staffing package, though, those come as 
the projects are completed. And so we will continue to work 
with each of the joint venture recipients to make sure that we 
are putting forth their staffing packages for funding.
    Senator Murkowski. So with regards to this process that you 
have going through this summer, you have mentioned that you 
have done consultation. Do you have some kind of a working 
group that is providing some form of input to evaluate and make 
changes to the program then? I mean, it sounds like you have 
had a process underway for a bit.
    Dr. Tso. Yes, I do have an advisory group the Facilities 
Appropriations Advisory Group that looks at all of the facility 
infrastructure work for the Indian Health Service, but I have 
not completed tribal consultation.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay.
    Dr. Tso. So if there is going to be a change, we will make 
sure that goes to tribal consultation before anything is 
finalized. So we are going to have to run these pretty quickly 
to make sure that we get the input that we want from Indian 
Country.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay. All right. Thank you for that. I 
briefly mentioned ANMC, the Alaska Native Medical Center in 
Anchorage, the only tribal regional referral hospital in the 
State. As you know, we have supported the use of the non-
recurring expenses fund for construction and renovation there 
at ANMC, and I am just hopeful that we can find a way forward 
as, you think about the role that they play as this, it is 
regional, but it is not. It is absolutely a facility that is a 
statewide facility but it is a Federal facility, and we have to 
ensure that it is meeting the IHS mission of delivering really 
quality and comprehensive care. And the structure itself is 
just bursting at the seams, and I know you have had plenty of 
opportunity to walk through, to listen, but if you need more 
reinforcement as to why we need to prioritize the efforts there 
at ANMC, we will take you through yet another walkthrough 
because it is so vitally, vitally important.
    Dr. Tso. Thank you, Ranking Member. Just for your 
information, I will be up there all next week again, so I will 
be landing in Anchorage on Monday. I intend to have a 
conversation with regards to the facility again and look at 
ways that we can help address that. We know right now there is 
$17 million that have been allocated from the Indian Health 
Service, and so we need to know what the difference is there 
that is needed to complete that or at least move that project 
forward. So I am excited about that. That is one of the things 
that is on my list of priorities to evaluate and see what we 
can do to get that project completed.
    Senator Murkowski. Good. I appreciate working with you on 
that. We were expecting a report on the Purchase Referred Care 
Program policies focused on reimbursing travel costs. 
Apparently, we gave you 180-day deadline to do that. Do you 
know if you are on track, when we might expect that?
    Dr. Tso. Thank you again, Ranking Member. I will definitely 
follow up on that. With respect to that, I have shared before, 
we are doing extensive amount of work with regards to PRC and 
making sure that we do that. Our recent updated guidelines with 
regards to expenditures of PRC do include travel, so we know 
that in Alaska, I know the challenges there for just overall 
PRC, so we are taking a look at that as well.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay. Well if you can just kind of pay 
attention to that deadline, that timeline, because that kind of 
information I think is going to be instructive.
    This is for you, Assistant Secretary Newland. I was in 
Alaska in mid-April and had an opportunity to visit with the 
new project manager for the Newtok to Mertarvik, the relocation 
from Newtok up to Mertarvik. When I say ``new,'' she was maybe 
10 days on the job. And I have to tell you, what she shared 
with me, along with a couple other residents from Newtok, 
really concerned me just with a lack of coordination. And, you 
know, we have been working on this move for decades. A lot of 
Federal funds that have gone there, and they were updating me 
with the condition of the school and the erosion undercutting 
the school, and the fact that they were going to be closing the 
school at the end of this school year, so, like, right now. And 
it is gone. It is done, and I think everybody had thought that 
we had a little more time.
    Anyway, I am encouraged now, about 6 weeks later, that 
there is much greater coordination. We have got anybody who has 
any involvement with that project is engaged. I think we have 
got a plan for how to move the remaining families, how to begin 
a new school year up there. But I am just reminded that we have 
got 144 environmentally-threatened communities, maybe not all 
in the same dire situation as Newtok, but with a potential to 
get there, and so know that these are front and center in my 
mind. We have got to be working together, but I think we have 
to recognize that this is not one agency. This is not one 
entity. This is everybody here. You got to get your friends 
from EPA and from Transportation and HHS. We have some 
significant challenges just in coordination for these small-
small communities.

                         PUBLIC LAW 280 STATES

    Last question for you, Secretary Newland, and this follows 
on our hearing yesterday when I asked you about the timeline 
for consultations with regards to the PL 280 States. You were 
unsure yesterday, so I do not know if you have more detail to 
that or whether you need to get back to me still.
    Mr. Newland. No, we were able to confirm that we will meet 
the September deadline from the committee report to complete 
the consultation period. And I think the letter will be going 
out pretty soon, and those consultations will be happening this 
summer.
    Senator Murkowski. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. And then I have 
got a couple others, but I have kept everybody over the 
allotted time, and I appreciate your fielding all of these 
questions that the committee has had.

                     ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS

    And I know you have going to be responding to members' 
questions for the record. So if there is nothing else, the 
hearing record will be open until close of business, May 30, 
2024.
                Questions Submitted to Hon. Roselyn Tso
             Questions Submitted by Senator Martin Heinrich
    Question. IHS is not allowing Tribal members to access over the 
counter medications unless they have a prescription or a provider 
visit. That's not something we require of anyone else and it's not 
medically necessary. Will you look into this and make it easier for IHS 
patients to access over the counter medications?
    Answer. IHS believes providing access to needed medications is part 
of our mission to deliver safe, high quality care. Indian Health 
Service Federal pharmacies are required to provide medications listed 
on the IHS National Core Formulary (NCF) to eligible beneficiaries when 
clinically indicated.
    The NCF is a core drug formulary that includes both prescription 
and over-the-counter (OTC) medications, as determined by the IHS 
National Pharmacy and Therapeutics Committee.
    Following appropriate review, Federal IHS pharmacies are expected 
to supplement their local formularies beyond the NCF to include 
additional prescription and OTC medications according to the needs of 
the local service population. Federal IHS facilities differ from retail 
pharmacies, in that there are no retail shelves for patient selection 
and there is no mechanism for purchase of OTC medications by 
beneficiaries from the pharmacy. All pharmaceuticals, including OTC 
medications, are provided at no cost to eligible beneficiaries through 
the pharmacy. The pharmacy safely and securely stores all medications, 
including OTCs to ensure appropriate storage and handling.Patients are 
able to request OTC medications without a provider prescription 
directly from the pharmacy at an IHS Federal site, or it may be 
prescribed during the normal course of care. As the IHS has a 
comprehensive electronic health record for all medical care provided at 
the site, any prescribed medication or OTC is reviewed by pharmacy 
staff before dispensing medications to ensure appropriate dosing, and 
to avoid contraindications, duplicative drug therapy or drug-drug or 
drug-disease interactions. The wait time depends on the number of 
patients waiting at the pharmacy and the workload of pharmacy staff, 
but patients will receive requested OTC medication the same day as the 
request.
    Question. In July 2023, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 
approved Opill, the first over the counter daily oral contraceptive 
approved for use in the U.S., which has given patients to purchase oral 
contraceptive medicine without a prescription at drug stores, 
convenience stores, and grocery stores, and online. How are IHS 
facilities being directed to provide Opill without a prescription or 
visit with a provider? What is the IHS doing to educate IHS 
pharmacists, nurses, doctors, community health workers and educators in 
the community about the availability of Opill and how it can and should 
be provided at the pharmacy and without barriers?
    Answer. Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) was added to the IHS National 
Core Formulary (NCF) in August 2023 soon after the product was approved 
by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in July 2023. Since it was 
added to the NCF, IHS Federal sites are required to have this 
medication on their local formulary. Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) 
became commercially available for purchase the last week of March 2024 
and the IHS Chief Medical Officer (CMO) distributed guidance via email 
to all IHS staff in April 2024 directing IHS Federal sites to offer 
Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) with as few barriers as possible, similar 
to OTC emergency contraception dispensing practices. Additionally, IHS 
created and shared numerous resources for the implementation of 
Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg). The resources included example 
medication policies, FAQ handouts for clinicians, FAQ handouts for 
patients, example request forms for pharmacists and clinicians to 
distribute Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) and a combined form used to 
evaluate the need for emergency contraception in conjunction with of 
Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg). These resources could be adapted to meet 
the needs of the local facility, which allows for rapid uptake and 
integration of Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) into local practices. 
Patients are able to request Opill(r) (norgestrel 0.075mg) without a 
provider prescription directly from the pharmacy at an IHS Federal 
site, or it may be prescribed during the normal course of care.

                                 ______
                                 

             Questions Submitted by Senator Kyrsten Sinema
    Question. The Phoenix Indian Medical Center in Arizona provides 
direct health care services to over 150,000 patients. However, its 
facilities are in need of repair and renovation.
    In 2020, the abrupt closure of the Center's labor and delivery 
services created a lot of confusion and left expectant mothers 
scrambling to find alternative birthing arrangements with nearby 
providers.
    While the Women's Clinic at the Phoenix Indian Medical Center did 
reopen and provides comprehensive prenatal and postpartum care, in 
addition to women's health care--delivery and birthing services must be 
provided by an offsite partner.
    Director Tso, are there plans to restore delivery and birth 
services at the Phoenix Indian Medical Center, and if not--what remain 
the challenges?
    What is the status of other planned construction and modernization 
at the Phoenix Indian Medical Center?
    Answer. Labor and Delivery services at Phoenix Indian Medical 
Center (PIMC): PIMC currently has an agreement in place with Valley 
Wise Medical Center, which has been a successful means of providing 
access to labor and delivery services for IHS patients. Prenatal care, 
post-partum follow-up and newborn follow-up care is provided at PIMC. 
PIMC Certified Nurse Midwifes and OB/GYN providers provide the care 
while the patients are at the Valley Wise Medical Center for labor/
delivery/NB care. Care is then transitioned back to PIMC. Current plans 
are to resume labor and delivery care once a new facility is 
constructed.
    Status of Phoenix Indian Medical Center planned construction: PIMC 
is one of the oldest projects on the 1993 IHS Health Care Facilities 
Construction Priority List, and its replacement is estimated to cost 
$3.5 billion. Due to limited funding available for new facility 
construction each year, and the size and access limits of the current 
site, IHS is investigating leasing space, locating services at other 
locations, and forming partnerships as part of the strategy to provide 
health care at PIMC.
    The specifications for space needed to provide healthcare services 
at the PIMC replacement facility have been thoroughly reviewed with an 
established plan. However, Congress must appropriate additional funding 
to the IHS for the needed PIMC replacement facility. Typically Health 
Care Facilities Construction funding is allocated towards the 1993 
Priority list, which includes PIMC.
    The replacement and modernization of PIMC will be completed using a 
phased strategy to plan, design, and construct the replacement as 
Congressional appropriations become available. The IHS plan to replace 
PIMC prioritizes short and long-term healthcare needs of PIMC's local 
community, as well as specialty referral services of sites throughout 
the Phoenix Area. The phasing will strive to meet those needs through 
construction, leasing space, and renovation of existing space.
    Question. In 2019, Tuba City Regional Health Care Corporation, the 
Native-led nonprofit organization that operates Tuba City Hospital, 
responded to their community's urgent need for equitable access to 
cancer treatments by opening the Specialty Care Center, an outpatient 
oncology and hematology clinic.
    However, the I.H.S. rate does not reimburse Tribal health care 
providers for the cost of chemotherapeutics provided by a physician in 
an office setting.
    In June and September last year, Senator Kelly and I wrote to CMS 
Administrator Brooks- LaSure to urge CMS to improve Medicare 
reimbursements for high-cost, specialty drugs provided by I.H.S. and 
tribally-owned facilities. CMS did not move the policy forward despite 
5 years of active engagement.
    In the 5 years since its opening, the Specialty Care Center has 
treated over 400 patients and lost over $2 million. This makes the 
provision of cancer care on reservations unsustainable for Medicare 
patients and harms the ability of Tribal populations to access local 
cancer treatments.
    The President's budget request urges significant investments in the 
Administration's Cancer Moonshot goal to reduce the cancer death rate 
and improve the experience of people living with cancer. It includes 
approximately $108 million to develop a nationwide coordinated public 
health and cancer prevention initiative to address the unacceptably 
high cancer incidence and mortality rates among American Indian and 
Alaska Native populations.
    Director Tso, do you agree that increasing access to cancer care at 
I.H.S. and tribally-owned facilities is in alignment with the Cancer 
Moonshot and important to achieving greater health care equity for 
Tribal communities? Do you believe creating sustainable Federal 
reimbursements for complex care at I.H.S. and tribally-owned facilities 
(like the Specialty Care Center) will help achieve those goals?
    Answer. Increasing access to care across Indian Country is critical 
to health equity for the AI/AN population we serve, which is why the FY 
2025 President's Budget requests an additional $108 million for the 
Cancer Moonshot. In addition, the creation of sustainable Federal 
reimbursements for complex cancer care at IHS and tribally-owned 
facilities will support an organized and well- led cancer program 
(comprised of prevention, early detection, diagnosis, treatment, and 
palliative care) that involves stakeholders, creates and leverages 
partnerships, responds to the unique needs of our patients, and 
incorporates evidence and cultural values to be effective in improving 
health outcomes, controlling costs, and improving patient and family 
experiences. Supporting the infrastructure of Indian health care 
programs with sustainable reimbursement is essential to building health 
equity and to decreasing health disparities. In the calendar year 2024 
Medicare Hospital Outpatient Prospective Payment System final rule with 
comment period, CMS discussed comments it solicited on a number of 
potential payment for high-cost drugs provided by IHS and Tribal 
facilities (88 FR 81896 through 81897). We look forward to sustainable 
Federal reimbursement informed by commenters' suggestions to support 
specialty care such as that provided by the Tuba City Regional Health 
Care Cancer Center.
    Question. It has been a year since vulnerable Tribal members were 
targeted in Arizona in a Medicaid rehab scam--with criminals promising 
offers of mental and behavioral health services only to be denied 
legitimate health care services and stranded far from home, services, 
or their communities.
    Despite actions by the State and Arizona's Medicaid program, known 
as the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System (AHCCCS), many 
Tribal advocates, health care providers, and nonprofit organizations 
say Federal assistance in the aftermath has been woefully lacking.
    Director Tso, what role or assistance, if any, can I.H.S. play in 
assisting vulnerable Tribal members impacted by these crimes and the 
Tribal organizations who are aiding in their recovery and connection to 
legitimate services?
    Answer. IHS works diligently to ensure that we assist AI/AN 
patients with enrollment into Medicaid and that the agency is properly 
processing Medicaid claims for eligible services. All employees, 
contractors and anyone who has contact with the IHS is encouraged to 
combat fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement by reporting these 
matters to the IHS Division of Personnel Security and Ethics or the 
Department of Health Human Services Office of Inspector General.

                          SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS

    Senator Murkowski. So thank you, and if there are no 
further comments, we stand adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:16 p.m., Thursday, May 23, the hearing 
was adjourned and the subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene 
at a time subject to the call of the Chair.]



     DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ENVIRONMENT, AND RELATED AGENCIES 
                  APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025

                              ----------                              

                                       U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                       NONDEPARTMENTAL WITNESSES

    [Clerk's note.--The subcommittee was unable to hold 
hearings on nondepartmental witnesses. The statements and 
letters of those submitting written testimony are as follows:]
           Prepared Statement of the Alliance to Save Energy
    The Alliance to Save Energy, a bipartisan, non-profit organization 
representing a coalition of businesses, government, and environmental & 
consumer leaders, respectfully submits this testimony alongside the 
undersigned allied organizations to urge you to support robust energy 
efficiency (EE) investments in critical programs managed by the U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), particularly increasing the 
ENERGY STAR budget for FY 2025 to $50 million. ENERGY STAR is well 
known for its ability to facilitate energy savings for consumers and to 
encourage innovation in residential construction and appliance 
manufacturing. Energy efficiency, a key domestic resource, is critical 
to ensuring safe, reliable, & affordable energy to Americans now & in 
the future. Efficiency measures have cut our energy use in half 
relative to the size of the U.S. economy since 1980. This energy waste 
reduction has effectively delivered more than $2,000 in annual savings 
per American.
    In 2020 alone, ENERGY STAR saved American consumers and businesses 
more than $42 billion in avoided energy costs. During the same period, 
ENERGY STAR accounted for nearly 400 million metric tons of emissions 
reductions--equivalent to more than five percent of U.S. total 
greenhouse gas emissions. Since 1992 the program has helped businesses 
and consumers save 5 trillion KWhs of electricity and avoid over $500 
billion in energy costs- and the program is also responsible for 4 
billion metric tons of GHG reductions during the same period.
    Notwithstanding the program's success, ENERGY STAR has seen its 
funding steadily decline from a high of nearly $54 million more than a 
decade ago, to $33 million today. If we were to simply adjust for 
inflation, ENERGY STAR would have a budget of approximately $75 million 
\1\ in today's dollars versus a decade ago. This steady decrease in 
funding priority has greatly restricted ENERGY STAR's ability to keep 
up with fast-changing markets and to expand the program's reach in 
sectors where large untapped energy savings are achievable, including 
low-to-moderate income, disadvantaged, and Tribal communities.
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    \1\ The chained GDP deflator in the FY25 budget (Historical Tables 
10.1) gives 0.8968 for FY2010 and 1.2533 for FY2024 (estimate). 
53.6/.8968*1.2533 = 74.9
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    With broad bipartisan support and nationwide brand recognition 
above 90%, ENERGY STAR is among the most impactful energy and climate 
programs in the Federal Government. Our request to increase the ENERGY 
STAR budget to $50 million reflects the urgency to address climate 
change and the need to prioritize energy efficiency solutions as 
consumers and businesses are faced with higher energy costs. We fully 
appreciate the competing interests during the budget and appropriation 
cycles, however, we urge prioritization of energy efficiency- as ``one 
of the fastest, most cost-effective ways to save money, reduce 
greenhouse gas emissions, create jobs, and meet growing energy 
demand.''
    Thank you for your leadership on these important issues, and we 
look forward to working together to strengthen the ENERGY STAR program. 
If you have any questions or need additional information, please 
contact Sapna Dowla (sgdowla@ase.org) with the Alliance to Save Energy.

Sincerely,

    Alliance to Save Energy (ASE)
    American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE)
    Acuity Brands
    ASHRAE
    Building Performance Association (BPA)
    Building Potential
    Cellulose Insulation Manufacturers Association
    DuPont
    E4TheFuture
    Environmental and Energy Study Institute (EESI)
    Federal Performance Contracting Coalition (FPCC)
    Institute for Market Transformation (IMT)
    Midwest Energy Efficiency Alliance (MEEA)
    National Association of Energy Service Companies (NAESCO)
    National Association of State Energy Officials (NASEO)
    Northeast Energy Efficiency and Electrification Council (NEEEC)
    Polyisocyanurate Insulation Manufacturers Association
    Southwest Energy Efficiency Project (SWEEP)
    U.S. Green Building Council (USGBC)

    [This statement was submitted by Sapna Gheewala Dowla, Associate VP 
Policy & Research, Alliance to Save Energy.]
                                 ______
                                 
         Prepared Statement of the American Alliance of Museums
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to submit this testimony. 
My name is Marilyn Jackson, and I am the President and CEO of the 
American Alliance of Museums (AAM). We urge your support for at least 
$211 million in Fiscal Year 2025 funding for the National Endowment for 
the Arts (NEA), at least $211 million in funding for the National 
Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), as well as robust funding for the 
Smithsonian Institution. We also request your support for the Historic 
Preservation Fund, including at least $70 million for State Historic 
Preservation Offices (SHPOs) and $34 million for Tribal Historic 
Preservation Offices (THPOs). We support $28 million for African 
American Civil Rights Grants, $13 million for Historically Black 
Colleges/Universities, $7 million for Equal Rights Grants, and $5 
million for Underrepresented Community Grants. We request funding of at 
least $40 million for the Save America's Treasures program and $17 
million for Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization grants. We also ask that 
Congress include museums in, and provide robust funding for, 
supplemental programs for Federal agencies carrying out 
Semiquincentennial/America 250 programming and commemorations. In light 
of museums being banned from House Community Project Funding, which we 
strongly oppose, increasing funding for competitive grants for museums 
is all the more critical.
    Before detailing these funding priorities for the museum field, I 
want to express my appreciation for the funding enacted in FY 2024. The 
funds for the NEH, NEA, and historic preservation activities will 
enhance museums' work to enrich their communities and preserve our many 
heritages. Making these investments speaks volumes about Congress' 
commitment to our Nation's cultural institutions and its understanding 
of the economic and educational impact these institutions have on 
Americans.
    There is a museum for everyone, and in every part of the country. 
Museums are a robust and diverse nonpartisan business and cultural 
sector, including aquariums, arboreta, art museums, botanic gardens, 
children's museums, culturally-specific museums, historic sites, 
historical societies, history museums, maritime museums, military 
museums, natural history museums, planetariums, presidential libraries, 
public gardens, railway museums, science and technology centers, and 
zoos.
    Museums are economic engines and job creators. According to Museums 
as Economic Engines: A National Report, U.S. museums (pre-pandemic) 
support more than 726,000 jobs and contribute $50 billion to the U.S. 
economy per year. The economic activity of museums generates more than 
$12 billion in tax revenue, one-third of it going to State and local 
governments. For example, the total financial impact that museums have 
on the economy in the State of Oregon is $585 million, including 
supporting 9,740 jobs. For Alaska it is a $280 million impact 
supporting 3,240 jobs. This impact is not limited to cities: more than 
25% of museums are in rural areas. The import of these data is not the 
numbers alone--but the larger point that museums give back tremendously 
to their communities in numerous ways--including economically. The 
Federal funding for NEA, NEH, and the other programs does not stay in 
Washington, DC, it goes back to communities across the Nation. And it 
is leveraged many times over by private philanthropy, and State and 
local investments.
    Museums are key education providers. Museums spend more than $2 
billion yearly on education activities; the typical museum devotes 75% 
of its education budget to K-12 students, and museums receive 
approximately 55 million visits each year from students in school 
groups. Museums also answered the call and significantly ramped up 
online educational programs and resources for students and families 
throughout the pandemic and beyond. Museums help teach the State and 
local curriculum in subjects ranging from art and science to history, 
civics, and government. Museums have long served as a vital resource to 
homeschool learners. It is not surprising that in a public opinion 
survey, 97% of respondents agreed that museums were educational assets 
in their communities. The results were statistically identical 
regardless of political persuasion or community size. Museums are 
nonpartisan and accessible to all Americans.
    While making strides, the museum field continues to face financial 
strain in the aftermath of the pandemic, with half of museums 
indicating at least one sign of financial distress. In the 6 months 
prior to completing a recent survey, half of museums either lost 
revenue or had to make difficult decisions on personnel, programs, or 
other expenditures (or all of the above). Despite the tremendous 
financial and psychological stress caused by the pandemic, museum 
professionals understand the essential role they play in their 
communities and despite the stress and financial strain they have 
deepened their commitment to serving as community assets. Museums are 
essential community infrastructure.
    The National Endowment for the Humanities is an independent Federal 
agency created by Congress in 1965. Grants are awarded to nonprofit 
educational institutions, including museums, for educational 
programming, infrastructure and the care of collections. NEH supports 
museums as institutions of lifelong learning and exploration, and as 
keepers of our cultural, historical, and scientific heritages that can 
foster critical dialogues on challenging issues. Approximately 40% of 
its budget is awarded to state humanities councils located in every 
State and U.S. territory.
    In FY 2023, the NEH awarded 798 grants totaling more than $110.7 
million to institutions across the U.S., including museums. All of 
NEH's divisions and offices support museums. Humanities councils 
sponsor family literacy programs, speakers' bureaus, cultural heritage 
tourism, exhibitions, and live performances. Many councils also offer 
grants to local cultural organizations, including museums.
    In preparation for the U.S. Semiquincentennial in 2026, NEH's ``A 
More Perfect Union'' initiative provides funding opportunities across 
the agency's seven grantmaking divisions for humanities projects that 
promote a deeper understanding of American history and culture and that 
advance civic education and knowledge of our core principles of 
government. As part of the initiative, most of NEH's grant programs 
include special encouragements to applications related to the United 
States' 250th.
    Here are just two examples of how NEH funding was used to support 
museums' work in your communities:

  --The High Desert Museum in Bend, Oregon, was awarded a $500,000 
        Infrastructure and Capacity Building Challenge Grant for the 
        construction of a new 27,500 square foot wing to advance the 
        High Desert Museum's vision for the Center for the High Desert-
        a place for humanities-driven programming that brings together 
        scholars, artists, policy makers, nontraditional leaders, and 
        community members to transform conversations about the High 
        Desert region, significantly broaden and deepen community 
        engagement, and catalyze collaborative, creative solutions. 
        These adaptable new spaces will support interdisciplinary 
        programming that will broaden community engagement, drive new 
        scholarship, inform policy decisions, and build understanding 
        and collaboration between community members.

  --The Anchorage Museum in Anchorage, Alaska, was awarded a Challenge 
        Grant for the museum's Climate and Sustainability Working Group 
        to create and implement a sustainability plan for the 
        organization. The process will include a review of the museum's 
        existing energy audit, undertaking a carbon audit, and working 
        with national and international consultants who are 
        sustainability experts in the cultural sector. The 
        sustainability plan will be integrated into the museum's 
        existing strategic framework and long-term capital plan, 
        providing clear goals and benchmarks and outlining actions and 
        a timeline to achieve sustainability goals. The project will 
        also include opportunities to share the process and findings 
        with statewide cultural organizations, partners, and the 
        general public to help work collectively toward a sustainable 
        future.

    The National Endowment for the Arts makes art accessible to all and 
provides leadership in arts education. Established in 1965, NEA 
supports great art in every congressional district. Its grants to 
museums help them exhibit, preserve, and interpret visual material 
through exhibitions, residencies, publications, commissions, public art 
works, conservation, documentation, services to the field, and public 
programs. Annually, the NEA typically provides more than 150 awards to 
museums and museum-related projects, totaling approximately $5 million.
    Since 2010, the NEA has collaborated with Blue Star Families and 
the U.S. Department of Defense on Blue Star Museums, which provides 
free museum admission to active duty military and their families all 
summer long. Typically each year more than 2,000 museums in all 50 
States participate, reaching on average more than 900,000 military 
members and their families. Participating Oregon museums include the 
Columbia River Maritime Museum (Astoria), Eugene Science Center 
(Eugene), and Oregon Historical Society (Portland). Alaska includes 
Palmer Historical Society (Palmer) and the Valdez Museum (Valdez).
    The Federal role of the NEA is uniquely valuable; receiving a grant 
from the NEA confers prestige on supported projects, strengthening 
museums' ability to attract matching funds from other public and 
private funders. On average, each dollar awarded by the NEA leverages 
up to nine dollars from other sources. No other funder-public or 
private-funds the arts in every State and the U.S. territories. 40% of 
NEA's grant funds are distributed to state arts agencies for re-
granting.
    Here are two examples of how NEA funding was used to support 
museums' work in your communities:

  --The Portland Art Museum in Portland, Oregon, was awarded a $65,000 
        grant to support installation and administrative costs for the 
        presentation of Africa Fashion, an exhibition organized by the 
        Victoria and Albert Museum in London. The exhibition celebrated 
        the richness and diversity of African creativity, cultures, and 
        histories, using fashion as a catalyst through an extensive 
        display of garments, textiles, personal testimonies, 
        photographs, sketches, and film. Works featured hailed from the 
        archives of iconic mid-20th century African designers. Africa 
        Fashion builds on the museum's commitment to showcasing 
        innovative fashion and design, as well as important works from 
        local, regional, and international Black artists.

  --The Portland Museum of Art in Portland, Maine, was awarded $30,000 
        from the Grants for Art Project program to support a solo 
        exhibition of the work of Passamaquoddy basketmaker Jeremy Frey 
        (b. 1978). More than 45 works ranging from early point baskets 
        and urchin forms to recent multicolored vases with porcupine 
        quillwork will be presented. Public programming will include 
        artist talks, workshops, community projects, and gallery-based 
        discussions. The exhibition will benefit in-person and online 
        museum visitors, families, and collaborative partners including 
        Passamaquoddy youth, artists, and community organizations.

    The NEA also runs the Arts and Artifacts Indemnity program, which 
reduces the cost of insuring major exhibitions. Absent this program, 
such exhibitions would need to be reduced in scale limiting visitors 
and students access to great art and artifacts from around the world. 
It saves museums millions of dollars annually, at a cost of almost zero 
to taxpayers.
    The Smithsonian Institution comprises some of the most visited 
museums in the world. The National Museum of African American History 
and Culture has captivated audiences from around the globe, 
underscoring the power of our National museums to educate and inspire. 
We support robust funding that would allow these world-class museums to 
undertake critical collections care, make needed technology upgrades, 
conduct cutting edge research, and increase access for all. We applaud 
the establishment and ongoing development of the Smithsonian American 
Women's History Museum and the National Museum of the American Latino.
    The Historic Preservation Fund is the funding source of 
preservation awards to States, Tribes, local governments, and 
nonprofits. State and Tribal Historic Preservation Offices carry out 
the historic preservation work of the Federal Government on State and 
Tribal lands. Historic preservation programs are not only essential to 
protecting our many heritages; they also serve as economic development 
engines and job creators, and provide vital funding to help museums 
serve their communities.
    I hope that my testimony helped make it clear why these priorities 
are of critical importance to the Nation and how they provide a 
worthwhile return on investment to the American taxpayer.
    Thank you for your consideration.

    [This statement was submitted by Marilyn Jackson, President and CEO 
of the American Alliance of Museums.]

                                 ______
                                 
          Prepared Statement of the American Battlefield Trust
    Thank you for the opportunity to present testimony today. My name 
is David Duncan, and I am the president of the American Battlefield 
Trust. I testify today to respectfully request that the Senate 
Appropriations subcommittee for Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies fund the Battlefield Land Acquisition Grants Program, along 
with related grant programs administered by the National Park Service's 
American Battlefield Protection Program, at its authorized amount of 
$20 million. I also respectfully request $2 million for Multi-State 
Battlefield Parks inholding acquisition funding.
    The American Battlefield Trust is a national nonprofit organization 
dedicated to preserving America's remaining Revolutionary War, War of 
1812 and Civil War battlefields. Thanks to the generosity of our 
500,000 members and supporters from all 50 States, the American 
Battlefield Trust has protected more than 58,000 acres of critically 
important battlefield land in 25 States.
            outdoor classrooms and military training grounds
    America's battlefields are irreplaceable parts of our shared 
national heritage. When preserved, these battlefields serve as outdoor 
classrooms to educate current and future generations about the defining 
moments in our country's history. They are living memorials, not just 
to the soldiers who fought and died there, but to all who have proudly 
worn our Nation's uniform.
    Preserved battlefields are also economic drivers for communities, 
generating tourism dollars that are extremely important to State and 
local economies. Battlefield visitors, who typically travel in groups 
and as part of families, tend to stay longer and spend more than other 
types of tourists.
    Additionally, battlefields serve as training grounds for today's 
military, in the form of customized battlefield tours known as ``staff 
rides.'' Preserved battlefields are frequently used by the modern 
military to place officers and enlisted ranks alike in the shoes of 
combat commanders, asking them to make difficult choices, in the face 
of daunting obstacles, over the same terrain. The American Battlefield 
Trust is proud to work with the Marine Corps University Foundation and 
others to host staff rides on battlefields we own and have protected.
              the american battlefield protection program
    In 1990, Congress created the Civil War Sites Advisory Commission 
(CWSAC), a panel composed of lawmakers, historians and 
preservationists, to examine the status of America's Civil War 
battlefields. Three years later, the Commission released a report 
identifying the most important Civil War battlegrounds, prioritizing 
them according to preservation status and historic significance. In 
addition, the Commission also recommended that Congress establish a 
Federal matching grant program to encourage private sector investment 
in battlefield preservation. The Commission's proposal for Federal 
matching grants was the genesis of today's Battlefield Land Acquisition 
Grants Program.
    The Battlefield Land Acquisition Grants Program is an authorized 
competitive matching grants program that requires a 1-to-1 federal/non-
federal match, although on most occasions the Federal dollars are 
leveraged much more than that. The program promotes cooperative 
partnerships between State and local governments and the private sector 
to protect high priority battlegrounds outside existing National Park 
Service boundaries.
    Building on the enormous success and popularity of the program, 
Congress expanded its grant-making eligibility in fiscal year 2015 to 
include Revolutionary War and War of 1812 battlefields, in addition to 
Civil War battlefields. Similar to Civil War battlefields, funding for 
Revolutionary War and War of 1812 battlefield preservation is targeted 
toward sites reviewed and prioritized in a comprehensive study 
requested by the Congress and published in 2007 by the National Park 
Service.
    Since the program was first funded in FY1999, grants have been used 
to protect 36,000 acres of hallowed ground in 20 States. Among the 
battlefields that have been preserved using this program are: Antietam, 
Maryland; Bentonville, North Carolina; Brandywine, Pennsylvania; 
Champion Hill, Mississippi; Chancellorsville, Virginia; Chattanooga, 
Tennessee; Gettysburg, Pennsylvania; Hanging Rock, South Carolina; 
Harpers Ferry, West Virginia; Kettle Creek, Georgia; Mill Springs, 
Kentucky; Prairie Grove, Arkansas; Princeton, New Jersey; Sackets 
Harbor, New York; Wilson's Creek, Missouri; and Wood Lake, Minnesota. 
It is important to note that grants are awarded for acquisition of 
lands from willing sellers only; there is--and never has been--any 
eminent domain authority.
                 multi-state battlefield parks funding
    The Multi-State Battlefield Parks funding request provides the 
National Park Service with the flexibility to acquire privately-owned 
battlefield land within the boundaries of existing battlefield parks 
throughout the country. Since Federal inholding money often goes for 
high-profile, big acreage tracts at larger, natural parks, smaller 
battlefield parks have trouble competing for limited Federal inholding 
dollars. The Multi-State Battlefield Parks funding request provides NPS 
with the flexibility to acquire smaller but historically significant 
parcels when they become available for acquisition.
    In addition, since the process for securing inholding funding for 
individual battlefield parks often takes years, the Multi-State 
Battlefield Parks funding request enables the National Park Service to 
direct funding to the battlefield parks that have the most urgent 
needs. Further, it enables nonprofit organizations like the American 
Battlefield Trust to secure these properties with the rapidity often 
expected of willing sellers, with intent to ultimately transfer land to 
NPS.
    Since 2020, the Multi-State Battlefield Parks Line Item has been 
funded in FY2024 at $2.68 million; FY2023 at $2.5 million; FY2021 at $2 
million; and FY2020 at $2 million. We respectfully request that the 
Multi-State Battlefield Parks Line Item be funded at $2 million for 
FY2025.
                        urgent need for funding
    The American Battlefield Trust wishes to thank the subcommittee for 
its support for battlefield preservation and saving America's hallowed 
grounds for future generations. We recognize that these are difficult 
economic times and appreciate the constraints on this subcommittee.
    However, we must point out that the clock is ticking on the 
remaining battlefields of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 and Civil 
War. The American Battlefield Trust estimates that, in the next decade, 
most unprotected battlefield land will be either developed or 
preserved. Further, with the 250th anniversary commemoration of the 
American Revolution less than a year away, there is no better time to 
preserve these historic shrines and prepare for the influx of visitors 
expected at that time. The Trust and its partners strive diligently to 
put these funds to good use in a timely manner. There is no shortage of 
land that can be saved.
                               conclusion
    The Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and the Civil War were 
defining moments in our country's history. America's battlefields are 
important to understanding who we are as a nation, and where we come 
from. They are open spaces and outdoor classrooms that commemorate the 
sacrifices of those who fought and died on these fields. The 
Battlefield Land Acquisition Grant Program has been an irreplaceable 
tool for preserving these hallowed grounds.
    I sincerely hope you and your subcommittee will consider our 
request to provide funding of the American Battlefield Protection 
Program's land acquisition program at its authorized level of $20 
million and Multi-State Battlefields Parks inholding request at $2 
million. We look forward to working closely with you as we continue our 
important work to preserve America's sacred battlefield lands. Thank 
you for the opportunity to address the subcommittee.

    [This statement was submitted by David N. Duncan, President, 
American Battlefield Trust.]
                                 ______
                                 
            Prepared Statement of American Bird Conservancy
    To help recover endangered species, reduce environmental threats, 
and bolster programs needed to reverse bird declines, American Bird 
Conservancy respectfully requests funding increases for the following 
bird conservation programs in the FY 2025 Interior Appropriations bill.

                                     FY 25 Bird Conservation Recommendations
                                            (all figures in millions)
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                                                                                            FY25 to Bring Back
              Agency                     Program         FY24 Final   FY25 President's          Birds (ABC
                                                                           Budget            Recommendation)
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EPA..............................  Pesticides                 $48.7               $75.7                    $75.7
                                    Licensing.
EPA..............................  Marine Pollution           $10.2               $12.7                      $13
                                    Program.
NPS..............................  Window Collision              $0                  $0                      $10
                                    Mitigation.
NOAA.............................  Seabird Recovery              $0                  $0                      $10
                                    Technical
                                    Assistance.
USFWS............................  ESA Pesticide                 $1                  $1                      $10
                                    Consultations.
USFWS............................  Red Knot Recovery..           $0                  $0                       $5
USFWS, NMFS......................  Marbled Murrelet              $0                  $0                       $5
                                    Recovery.
USFWS............................  Lesser Prairie-               $0                  $0                       $5
                                    chicken Recovery.
USFWS, NPS, USGS.................  Hawaiian ESA              $15.51                 $15                      $20
                                    Recovery.
USFWS............................  NMBCA..............         $5.1                $5.1                     $6.5
USFWS............................  Migratory Bird            $16.82               $17.7                      $25
                                    Joint Ventures.
USFWS............................  California Central            $0                  $0                     $0.6
                                    Coast Joint
                                    Venture.
USFWS............................  Non-Lead Exchange..           $0                  $0                      $20
USFWS............................  MBTA Incidental               $0                  $0                      $10
                                    Take Mitigation.
BLM..............................  Sage Grouse                  $73                 $73                      $73
                                    Conservation.
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EPA and USFWS Pesticide Reviews
To address a 40-year backlog of reviews, and court-mandated Endangered 
Species Act compliance, we ask that Congress appropriate $75.7 million 
to the EPA's Office of Pesticide Programs to expedite registration and 
registration review procedures mandated by the Federal Insecticide, 
Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act.

EPA Plastic Pollution Mitigation
Plastic pollution is among the leading threats to seabirds. We 
recommend that the EPA's Marine Pollution Program receive at least $13 
million to support their goals of reducing marine litter, capturing 
trash, and protecting human health and the marine environment.

Reducing Window Collisions
Please provide $10 million to continue work by the National Park 
Service and other agencies to retrofit Department of the Interior 
buildings to make them bird-safe.

USFWS Pesticide Consultations
We also ask that an additional $10 million be appropriated to the USFWS 
to be used expressly for pesticide consultations, including 
programmatic expenses and an additional 20 FTE, under the Planning and 
Consultation division of Ecological Services.

Red Knot Recovery
We recommend $5 million to support the FWS Red Knot recovery program. 
Added funds should be used to improve state horseshoe crab egg density 
surveys and provide grants to reduce horseshoe crab bait fishing and 
bleeding for pharmaceutical purposes. Red Knot depend on horseshoe crab 
eggs to survive their migration and successfully breed.

Marbled Murrelet Recovery
We recommend an additional $5 million for recovery of the threatened 
Marbled Murrelet, a rapidly declining critically endangered seabird 
which only nests in the inland Old Growth forests of the Pacific 
Northwest. Funds are needed to support campground cleanup campaigns to 
reduce the number of ravens and jays predating Murrelet nests.

Lesser Prairie-Chicken Recovery
We recommend $5 million to initiate a robust recovery program that will 
incentivize landowners to provide for high quality habitat needed to 
maintain the currently declining population. A coordinated outreach 
campaign, technical support, and funding are needed to implement 
grazing rest and other practices that will improve the range.

Hawai'i ESA Recovery
ABC recommends funding Hawaiian Forest Bird Conservation through State 
of the Birds Activities and associated National Park Service and U.S. 
Geological Survey programs at $20 million for FY25. Funds are being 
used to halt the spread of avian malaria threatening 12 of Hawaiian 
forest birds.

Neotropical Migratory Bird Conservation Act
Please increase funding for migratory bird conservation including 
wintering grounds in Latin America and the Caribbean by providing $6.5 
million for the Neotropical Migratory Bird Conservation Act. This 
program is essential to the conservation of wintering habitats, 
building capacity of our Latin American and Caribbean partners, and 
providing greater access to conservation resources in a region where it 
is urgently needed.

North American Waterfowl Management Joint Ventures
The national network of Joint Ventures (JVs) are essential to address 
the conservation needs of migratory birds, and they leverage 
significant matching contributions from partner organizations and 
foundations. We recommend that to help reverse bird declines the Joint 
Ventures be allocated $20 million.

California Central Coast Joint Venture
We request $600,000 the California Central Coast Joint Venture's (C3JV, 
https://www.c3jv.org/) and its BIRDS (Bridging Information for the 
Recovery of Declining Species) Project, including the preparation of a 
State of the Birds Report, launch of the Central Coast Bird Monitoring 
Network, and development of an Indigenous Stewardship Program.

Non-Lead Exchange Program
We recommend $20 million appropriated to State Wildlife Agencies 
through the Department of the Interior for non-lead tackle and non-lead 
ammunition exchange programs.

Migratory Bird Treaty Act
We appreciate the President's FY25 Budget Justification from USFWS in 
regard to protections for birds under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, 
and are hopeful the Service will soon propose a draft rule establishing 
an incidental take permitting system and general sector permits to 
reduce preventable mortality and ask Congress to support and designate 
$10 million towards this effort.

Climate Change and Energy Development
Please include in wildlife incidental take mitigation funding. We also 
recommend report language emphasizing environmentally appropriate 
siting and minimizing wildlife impacts of renewable energy facility 
development and encouraging Federal agencies to avoid ecologically 
important areas on public lands and in Federal waters and to apply 
available best management practices that reduce wildlife mortality.

Greater Sage-Grouse Conservation
We remain deeply concerned by the Greater Sage-Grouse ESA listing rider 
given a recent USGS report indicating the species is in severe decline, 
and that that trend is anticipated to continue. We request the listing 
moratorium for all Sage Grouse populations be ended.

    1. We appreciate the proposed $73 million for sage grouse 
conservation in the House recommendation, and the Senate report 
language offering helpful guidance for the restoration program.

    2. The remaining grouse strongholds are at risk and require 
immediate protection. We ask Congress to please include the following 
bill language to recover grouse populations:

    No less than $3 million will be spent on the designation and 
planning for a network of ACECs deemed sufficient to prevent further 
long-term greater sage-grouse population declines in accordance with 43 
U.S.C. Sec. Sec. 1702(a) and 1712(c)(3).
                      recommended report language
Pesticides and Birds
Please include report language directing EPA to:

    1. In conjunction with the Center for Pollinator Conservation, 
conduct a scientific review of the impacts of neonicotinoid 
insecticides on birds, insects, and the environment and report these 
findings to Congress

    2. Clarify that the Treated Article Exemption, FIFRA Sec. 152.25(a) 
should not include pesticide-coated seeds

    3. Request that FWS ban the use of conventional pesticides used for 
crop production on National Wildlife Refuges and other important bird 
habitats

    4. Direct the Government Accountability Office to study the impact 
of pesticides used in crop production on National Wildlife Refuges

Public Lands Protection and Forest Carbon
We are encouraged by the Executive Order to map and conserve Old Growth 
and Mature Forests which could make a major contribution to address 
climate change. Please include report language recommending:

                The protection of existing carbon stores in mature and 
                old growth forests that provide habitat for the 
                threatened Marbled Murrelet, Northern Spotted Owl, and 
                California Spotted Owl.

Reducing Window Collisions
Please include previous report language:

                All agencies under the jurisdiction of this act are 
                directed to monitor visitor and nature centers and 
                office buildings for bird collisions with glass to 
                address bird collision risk. At a minimum, facilities 
                identified as high-risk should take low cost or no cost 
                action, such as turning off interior lights at night or 
                applying films or other adhesives to glass windows to 
                reduce bird collisions.

   subcommittee on commerce, justice, science, and related agencies, 
         national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa)
Reducing Seabird Bycatch
U.S. fisheries have taken great strides to reduce seabird bycatch. To 
further assist ongoing efforts, we recommend $10 million in technical 
assistance and seabird bycatch mitigation funding be provided to NOAA 
Fisheries in the Commerce, Justice, Science, And Related Agencies 
Appropriations Bill. We recommend that at least $100,000 of that money 
be directly appropriated to the National Seabird Program for staffing. 
This is necessary to boost program capacity and enhance internal 
coordination.
   agriculture, rural development, food and drug administration, and 
  related agencies fy2025--draft fy2025 appropriations report language

                The Committee recognizes the scientific, economic, 
                supply chain, environmental, and animal protection 
                benefits to utilizing synthetic safety approaches to 
                test for bacterial endotoxins in vaccines, injectable 
                therapies, and medical devices. Without clear guidance 
                that the Food and Drug Administration accepts modern 
                approaches in lieu of traditionally accepted animal-
                based methods, regulated entities are unlikely to adopt 
                new approaches that accurately detect fever-causing 
                contaminants with lower impact on animals and the 
                environment. The Committee directs the FDA to update 
                its 2012 Guidance for Industry on Pyrogen and 
                Endotoxins Testing within 120 days of enactment of this 
                act to reflect acceptance of recombinant Bacterial 
                Endotoxins Test (rBET) methods for new and existing 
                products. FDA must also provide staff training on rBET. 
                The Committee requests a written update by 180 days of 
                enactment of this act.

Contacts:

Steve Holmer
Vice President of Policy
sholmer@abcbirds.org
202-744-6459

Annie Chester
Policy Initiatives Coordinator
achester@abcbirds.org
202-888-7471

Steve Riley
Director of Farm Bill Programs
sriley@abcbirds.org
402-433-5078

    [This statement was submitted by Hardy Kern, Director of Government 
Relations.]
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   Prepared Statement of the American Cultural Resources Association
    Thank you for giving the American Cultural Resources Association 
(ACRA) the opportunity to provide written testimony about the 
Department of the Interior's appropriations for Fiscal Year 2025. I am 
Amanda Stratton, the Executive Director of ACRA.
    ACRA is the National trade association supporting the common 
interests of cultural resource management (CRM) firms of all sizes, 
types, and specialties. ACRA member firms undertake much of the legally 
mandated cultural resource studies and investigations in the United 
States and employ thousands of professionals, including archaeologists, 
architectural historians, historians, ethnographers, and an 
increasingly diverse group of other specialists in the museum and non-
profit sectors.
    The majority of CRM firms in the United States are designated as 
small businesses under the U.S. Small Business Administration's size 
standards. They work in every State in the country to balance the 
necessity to build infrastructure with the need to protect our Nation's 
cultural heritage. CRM firms like mine help enable smart development 
while elevating important cultural heritage assets.
    Numerous programs within the Interior Department play an essential 
part in helping our Nation understand its history. ACRA appreciates the 
important work of the subcommittee over the last few years to ensure 
historic preservation and cultural resource programs at the Interior 
Department have adequate funding despite a challenging fiscal 
environment. Our recommendations outlined below reflect the reality 
that, as the demand for cultural resource services continues to rise, 
Federal investments must keep up.
 national park service--historic preservation fund (hpf): $225 million
    Since its establishment in the 1970s, the Historic Preservation 
Fund (HPF) has supported the rescue and rehabilitation of historic 
sites, revitalized communities, and created opportunities for economic 
growth.
    The Fund helps the National Park Service administer heritage 
programs such as the National Register of Historic Places and the 
Historic Tax Credit Program. State and Tribal Historic Preservation 
Offices (S/THPOs), who are tasked with the survey and inventory of 
America's historic resources, rely on HPF funding for part of their 
budgets. Over the last four decades, the HPF has made possible the 
survey of millions of acres and identification of numerous cultural 
resources, resulting in over 95,000 listings on the National Register, 
provided millions of dollars for the rehabilitation of historic 
buildings, and leveraged more than $162 billion in private investment 
through the Historic Tax Credit.
    Not a single dollar of HPF funding comes from Federal taxpayers; 
funding for the HPF comes from offshore oil leases. States are required 
to match at least 40 percent of the funding that they receive from the 
HPF. Recognizing the immense economic and cultural value of historic 
preservation, Congress has increased funding for the HPF in recent 
years.
    Despite these increases, the investments have not kept up with 
rising demand. The need for full funding of the HPF has become more 
critical in recent years as SHPO responsibilities have increased, new 
THPO offices are established, and competitive grant programs are 
created and expanded. In addition, the passage of the 2021 bipartisan 
infrastructure bill means that state and Tribal preservation offices 
now face significantly more demand for their services as Federal 
projects get funded.
    Without adequate funding, state and Tribal preservation offices 
often lack the capacity to carry out programs that support management 
of our cultural resources, heritage preservation, and community 
development. As a result, critical infrastructure projects risk being 
delayed.
    In FY2024, Congress appropriated $188 million from the HPF. 
Although this amount is still above the $150 million amount that is 
authorized to be transferred into the Fund each year, it is a reduction 
from the $204 million appropriated the previous fiscal year. This 
reduction in funding comes at a time when many of the projects 
authorized by the infrastructure law are beginning to enter the 
permitting and construction phases.
    Congress can help States, localities and Tribes continue their 
efforts to protect and celebrate our heritage by providing $225 million 
from the HPF in fiscal year 2025, including $70 million for SHPOs and 
$34 million for THPOs.
  national park service-national recreation and preservation cultural 
                         programs: $50 million
    NPS National Recreation and Preservation Cultural Programs enable 
the Park Service to administer technical assistance and support for 
resource protection, not just within the Park system but across the 
Federal Government. Cultural resources professionals in the NPS work 
alongside Tribes, State and local governments, nonprofits and others to 
ensure that our shared heritage is not lost.
    The Cultural Programs include management of the National Register 
of Historic Places and the National Historic Landmarks Program, 
coordination of Federal archaeology programs, certification of Federal 
Historic Tax Credit projects, and the administration of grant programs 
like the Japanese American Confinement Sites Grants, American 
Battlefield Protection Program Assistance Grants, and others. These 
funds support projects and initiatives in virtually every community in 
the country, promoting economic development as they help celebrate the 
achievements of countless Americans whose stories otherwise would be 
lost to history.
    ACRA appreciates the subcommittee's efforts to maintain level 
funding for these programs in FY2024 and urges the subcommittee to 
continue to invest in them. ACRA requests that the subcommittee provide 
$46 million for these programs in FY2025.
  national park service--african american burial grounds preservation 
                          program: $3 million
    ACRA requests $3 million for the new African American Burial 
Grounds Preservation Program.
    From the early days of our Republic to the Jim Crow era, African 
American families were often barred from burying their loved ones in 
White cemeteries. Large numbers of African American burial sites lack 
any official record of their existence, and many have been neglected 
and abused over time, effectively erasing the memory of Americans whose 
history deserves to be told. In many areas of the country, burial 
grounds are the only tangible properties that represent African 
American culture and heritage.
    Congress recognized the importance of protecting these sacred sites 
in 2022 when it first authorized the African American Burial Grounds 
Preservation Program. This program supports efforts to research, 
identify, document, preserve, and interpret historic African American 
burial grounds, many of which have been badly neglected or lost to 
history. We urge the subcommittee to provide $3 million to this vital 
program.
     national park service--native american graves protection and 
             repatriation act (nagpra) grants: $12 million
    In addition, ACRA requests the subcommittee provide $12 million for 
Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) Grants.
    NAGPRA is the Federal Government's cornerstone statute recognizing 
that Native American human remains, funerary objects, sacred objects, 
and objects of cultural patrimony belonging to lineal descendants, 
Indian Tribes and Native Hawaiian organizations, and must be treated 
with dignity and respect.
    Compliance with the newly revised NAGPRA rules will require 
significant consultation between Tribes and museum and curation 
facilities. The NAGPRA Grant program is an indispensable resource that 
supports the documentation, protection and repatriation of remains and 
cultural objects. Recognizing the increased demand the new rules have 
created, ACRA urges the subcommittee to provide $12 million for these 
Grants.
    ACRA appreciates having the opportunity to provide this written 
testimony to the subcommittee and looks forward to working with you to 
ensure that the Federal Government continues to serve as a 
collaborative partner with State and local governments, Tribes, non-
for-profit organizations, the CRM industry and others who work every 
day to protect our Nation's cultural treasures.

    [This statement was submitted by Amanda Stratton, Executive 
Director of the American Cultural Resources Association.]
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          Prepared Statement of the American Fisheries Society
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide recommendations on Federal 
appropriations for Fiscal Year 2025. Founded in 1870, The American 
Fisheries Society is the oldest and largest professional society of 
fisheries biologists, managers, and researchers in the world. The 
mission of AFS is to improve the conservation and sustainability of 
fishery resources and aquatic ecosystems by advancing fisheries and 
aquatic science and promoting the development of fisheries 
professionals.
    AFS respectfully submits the following funding recommendations for 
the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, U.S. Geological Survey, and the 
U.S. Forest Service to secure critical funds for conservation and 
restoration of our country's important fisheries and aquatic 
ecosystems.
                     u.s. fish and wildlife service
    Fish and Aquatic Conservation (FAC) works with States, landowners, 
and other partners and stakeholders to achieve the goals of healthy, 
self-sustaining populations of fish and other aquatic species. Within 
this program, the National Fish Hatchery System has served an important 
role in recovering and restoring aquatic species through conservation 
aquaculture. AFS fully supports an increase in funding for this program 
for Restoring Salmon in the Columbia River Basin. However, we are 
particularly concerned with Administration's proposed funding 
reductions for Aquatic Habitat and Species Conservation. The program's 
important work to protect, restore, and recover native fish and our 
Nation's freshwater ecosystems must be maintained to address increasing 
impacts to freshwater ecosystems and native fish populations from 
habitat loss, fragmentation, aquatic invasive species, pollution, and 
climate change. AFS requests $253 million for FAC for FY 2025 to 
maintain funding for Aquatic Habitat and Species Conservation and for 
additional appropriations for Restoring Salmon in the Columbia River 
Basin.
    The State and Tribal Wildlife Grants Program (STWG) is the Nation's 
only program that encourages development and implementation of State 
Wildlife Action Plans. Collectively, STWG funds support strong 
partnerships among federal, state, Tribal, private, and nonprofit 
entities that enable fish and wildlife professionals to implement on-
the-ground conservation activities that benefit over 12,000 at-risk 
species, with the goal of eliminating the need to list them under the 
Endangered Species Act. In FY 2010, appropriations were at $90 million 
for the program--allowing States to complete more projects deemed 
necessary for monitoring and management of at-risk fish and wildlife. 
Subsequent budget reductions in STWG, however, have not allowed this 
highly successful program to reach its full potential. AFS requests 
that Congress increase funding for the program to at least $100 million 
annually.
         u.s. geological survey (usgs)--ecosystems mission area
    The Climate Adaptation Science Centers program addresses evolving 
challenges posed by climate change on regional fish and wildlife, 
ecosystems, and community-based stakeholders. Modest budget increases 
in recent fiscal periods have bolstered the program's ability to 
swiftly respond to demands and expand its capacity, facilitating 
proactive engagement of Tribal communities in project design and 
resource allocation. Nevertheless, funding levels have failed to match 
identified needs, especially in equipping USGS with adequate resources 
to effectively convey scientific insights to stakeholders for 
actionable decision-making based on project outcomes. For FY 2025, AFS 
recommends the full realization of the Administration's proposal, 
reaching no less than $69.3 million.
    The Cooperative Fish & Wildlife Research Units (CRUs) foster 
federal, state, nongovernment organization (NGO), and academic 
partnerships to provide actionable science tailored to the needs of 
natural resource managers. This science plays a pivotal role in the 
implementation of State and Federal management decisions. CRUs are an 
exemplary model for cooperative natural resource science programming; 
with the support of collaborators, this program leverages an average of 
three dollars in outside funds for every Federal dollar invested. 
Thanks to support from Congress, Indiana was able to establish the 
Indiana Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit hosted by Purdue 
University. Despite growing interest from other States, limited Federal 
funding has constrained the expansion of units and continues to result 
in vacancies at existing units. To address this gap, AFS recommends a 
funding increase to $36 million in FY 2025, enabling CRUs to capitalize 
on emerging partnerships and fill vacancies in an effort to meet 
longstanding commitments.
                       u.s. forest service (usfs)
    The Forest Service administers a large transportation and trails 
infrastructure system including roads, trails, bridges, and other types 
of stream crossing features. Stream crossings pose a significant 
challenge to water quality and the health of fish and aquatic species 
habitat. Legacy Road and Trail Remediation Program improves fish and 
aquatic species passage and reduces erosion and sediment into streams 
to improve water quality while increasing flood resilience. AFS 
requests the full $6 million in annual appropriations for FY 2025 in 
the Administration's proposal for decommissioning roads, removal or 
replacement of stream crossing structures that are barriers to aquatic 
organism passage, road and trail repair and improvements and associated 
activities in environmentally sensitive areas; and repair and 
improvements on roads and trails subject to recent storm damage.
    Thank you for your commitment to conserving our country's natural 
resources. We appreciate your consideration of this request.

    [This statement was submitted by Douglas J. Austen, Ph.D., 
Executive Director.]
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             Prepared Statement of American Hiking Society
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Murkowski, and members of the subcommittee, 
on behalf of American Hiking Society and the millions of trail users 
our collective 240 organizations and entities represent who spend their 
time, money, and energy to get out on trails for recreation, health and 
wellness, and to volunteer, we thank the Committee for the opportunity 
to provide testimony on the importance of adequately funding our 
Nation's trails and public lands to ensure access for all. We ask the 
Committee to adopt the following funding requests so the Federal 
Government can continue to leverage private contributions and benefit 
from volunteer labor as well as provide inexpensive, healthy outdoor 
recreation options for your constituents and all Americans. 
Appropriations for Federal land management agencies requested herein, 
coupled with the significant resources provided by non-profit partners, 
serve to accelerate collective stewardship of our Nation's public lands 
and waters, and enhance climate adaptability.
                          summary of requests
Forest Service:

  --Capital Improvement and Maintenance (CMTL), Trails at $30M, 
        including $15M for National Scenic and Historic Trails, and 
        funding for the National Forest System Trail Stewardship Trail 
        Partner Funding. In order to support adequate funding for all 
        Forest Service trails and to avoid a reduction in the existing 
        budget for non-National Scenic and Historic Trails managed by 
        the Forest Service, increases for non-National Scenic and 
        Historic Trails should occur in parity with the rate of 
        increases for National Scenic and Historic Trails;

  --At, minimum $70M to fund Recreation, Heritage & Wilderness;

  --At least $10M to fund Legacy Roads & Trails, with support for 
        Washington Watershed Restoration Initiative (WWRI) coalition 
        request of $100M;

    Bureau of Land Management:

  --Funding at $15M for National Trails System Line Item;

  --National Conservation Lands at $78.145M, but a minimum level 
        funding of FY24 Senate proposed at $65M;

    U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service:

  --Refuge Visitor Services at least $86.114M;

  --Support Infrastructure-National Partnership funding;

    National Park Service:

  --Rivers, Trails, & Conservation Assistance (RTCA) program at $15M;

  --Park Service Operations for the National Trails System at a minimum 
        of $20.964M;

  --Volunteers in Parks programs at a minimum of FY23 levels, including 
        dedicated funding to the National Trails System;

  --Visitor Services sub-activity, Youth Partnership Programs at a 
        minimum of $10.95M, including an acknowledgment of the benefits 
        for trails;

  --Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership (ORLP) Program, at a min 
        $125M;

    US Geological Survey:

  --$1.5M to fully fund the National Digital Trail Project (NDTP)
                     forest service recommendation
    National Forest trails benefit everyone and receive increasing 
public use each year. Collectively, the National Forests provide 
159,000 miles of trails for activities ranging from hiking, biking, 
horseback riding, off-highway vehicle usage, groomed winter trails for 
cross-country skiing and snowmobiling, and access points for ``river 
trails.'' Roughly 120,000 of the 159,000 miles of trails are in need of 
some form of maintenance or repair.

Program: Capital Improvement and Maintenance, Trails
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $30M
FY24 Enacted Level: $20M (House bill was $25M)
Department: USDA
Agency/Account: Forest Service, Capital Improvement and Maintenance, 
Trails
Report Language requested:

  --In order to support adequate funding for all Forest Service trails 
        and to avoid a reduction in the existing budget for non-
        National Scenic and Historic Trails managed by the Forest 
        Service, increases for non-National Scenic and Historic Trails 
        should occur in parity with the rate of increases for National 
        Scenic and Historic Trails

  --The committee supports continued funding for the National Forest 
        System Trail Stewardship Trail Partner Funding Program. Much of 
        the Forest Service's trail work is accomplished today by 
        volunteer groups and non-profit partners. The Forest Service 
        has a successful Trail Stewardship Partner Funding challenge 
        cost share program that leverages Federal funding by 3 to 5:1.

Program: Recreation, Heritage & Wilderness
FY25 Funding Level Requested: At, minimum $70M
FY24 Proposed Level (House): $60M
Department: USDA
Agency/Account: Forest Service, Recreation, Heritage & Wilderness

Program: Legacy Roads & Trails
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $10M minimum
FY24 Enacted Level: $6M (House bill was $10M)
Department: USDA
Agency/Account: Forest Service, Legacy Roads & Trails
                           blm recommendation
    The BLM manages 13,468 miles of trails over 245 million acres -more 
land than any other Federal land management agency and contains a 
diversity of landscapes that often provide the public less structured 
but nonetheless diverse recreational opportunities. BLM recreation 
resources and visitor services support strong local economies. More 
than 120 urban centers and thousands of rural towns (comprising 64 
million people) are located within 25 miles of BLM lands.

Program: Bureau of Land Management National Trails System Line-Item 
Funding
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $15M
FY24 Enacted Level: $11M (House bill was $15M)
Department: Bureau of Land Management
Agency/Account: Trails

Program: National Conservation Lands
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $78.145M, but a minimum $63.599M
FY24 Enacted Level: $59.135M (Senate proposed FY24 level was $63.599M)
Department: Bureau of Land Management
Agency/Account: National Conservation Lands
                           fws recommendation
    Refuge Visitor Services provides funding for trail maintenance 
across FWS-managed land. Located in every U.S. state and territory, and 
within an hour's drive of nearly every major U.S. city, National 
Wildlife Refuges provide incredible opportunities for outdoor 
recreation, including hiking, hunting, fishing, birding, boating, and 
nature photography across 2,500 miles of trails. More than 37,000 jobs 
are reliant on refugees. Funding at a level of $93M will provide for 
trail maintenance across the land and water trails, refuges, wetlands, 
and hatcheries, including 11 National Scenic and Historic Trails and 
forty-four National Recreation Trails.

Program: Visitor Services
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $86.114M
FY24 Enacted Level: $76M (Senate bill was $80.839M)
Department: Department of Interior
Agency/Account: Fish and Wildlife Service, Visitor Services

Program: Infrastructure
Department: Department of Interior
Agency/Account: Fish and Wildlife Service, Infrastructure
Report Language requested: National Partnerships are an important 
component to maintain trail infrastructure across Fish and Wildlife 
Service sites. The Department shall continue support for National 
Partnerships and prioritize funding to leverage these partnerships.
                           nps recommendation
    National Parks, and the world-class experiences their 18,844 miles 
of trails provide, are one of the most unifying forces in America. 
Well-maintained trails improve the quality of visitor experiences and 
enhance visitor safety.

Program: Rivers, Trails, & Conservation Assistance (RTCA)
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $15M
FY24 Enacted Level: $13M
Department: Interior
Agency/Account: National Park Service, National Recreation and 
Preservation
Report Language requested: Within, National Recreation and 
Preservation, $13.845M for the Rivers, Trails, & Conservation 
Assistance program.

Program: National Trails System
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $20.964M
FY24 Enacted Level: $18.856M
Department: Interior
Agency/Account: National Park Service, Park Service Operations
Report Language requested:

  --Within, Park Service Operations, $20.964M for administration of the 
        National Trails System.

  --National Trails System-The Committees understand the importance of 
        providing adequate funding for the development and maintenance 
        of the National Trails System for future generations to enjoy. 
        The Committees urge the Service to continue its efforts to 
        develop National Scenic and Historic Trails, not limited to 
        supporting construction and maintenance projects and volunteer 
        coordination efforts, and to recognize equal ``unit'' status of 
        National Scenic Trails.

Program: Volunteers in Parks
FY25 Funding Level Requested: Maintain FY23 increase, at minimum
FY24 Enacted Level: Level
Department: Interior
Agency/Account: National Park Service, Park Partnership Support 
Functions
Report Language Requested: The committee recommends funding through 
Volunteers in Parks be provided for volunteer support of the National 
Trails System, National Rivers, and National Park Service trails.

Program: Youth Partnership Programs
FY25 Funding Level Requested: Maintain FY23 increase, at minimum
FY24 Enacted Level: Level
Department: Interior
Agency/Account: National Park Service, Visitor Services
Report Language Requested: The committee recommends funding through the 
Youth Partnership Programs be provided for support of the National 
Trails System, National Rivers, and National Park Service trails.

Program: Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership
FY25 Funding Level Requested: At least $125M
FY24 Enacted Level: $125M
Department: Interior
Agency/Account: National Park Service, State Conservation Grants
Report Language Requested: The committee recommends funding through the 
Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership Program be provided for support 
of trails, including the National Trails System.
                 u.s. geological survey recommendation
Program: National Digital Trail Project
FY25 Funding Level Requested: $1.5M
FY24 Enacted Level: $1.35M
Department: U.S. Geological Survey
Agency/Account: Core Science Systems
     (across agencies) restore staffing for federal land managers 
                             recommendation
    Federal land agency field staff continue to suffer from previous 
job reductions, and the resulting lack of oversight is now a roadblock 
to proper collaborative management between Federal land agencies and 
volunteer-based partners. Crucial projects are stalled waiting for plan 
review or other necessary agency expertise, such as environmental 
studies, design, and other work that is above the ability and purview 
of trail groups. Delays have lasted years, contributing to the 
maintenance backlog and, ultimately, increasing the cost to taxpayers 
for this necessary work as trails continue to deteriorate at an even 
greater rate.
    We must improve agency staffing levels to meet the need. Agency 
front-line managers provide crucial and unparalleled expertise and 
oversight to nonprofit trail partners. This guidance is key to the 
success of nonprofits as they take on more of the management 
responsibility for our trails and recruit, train, and marshal thousands 
of volunteers in public service. Increasing agency staffing levels is 
essential to completing the complex work of managing and maintaining 
trails and public lands.
    Beyond increases in land management agency staffing, we ask the 
committee to include report language to audit the centralized agency 
hiring practices, which have been identified as a roadblock to filling 
thousands of crucial vacancies. Centralizing hiring prevents land 
managers from quickly filling vacancies from local talent pools. The 
cumbersome process slows hiring so much that vacancies often go 
unfilled. In many cases, by the time a job is offered, the candidate 
has already moved on. More hiring flexibility would help local land 
managers fill vacancies quickly.

    [This statement was submitted by American Hiking Society.]
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  Prepared Statement of the American Institute of Biological Sciences
    The American Institute of Biological Sciences (AIBS) appreciates 
the opportunity to provide testimony in support of appropriations for 
the Smithsonian Institution, the United States Geological Survey 
(USGS), the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), and the 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for fiscal year (FY) 2025. We 
encourage Congress to provide additional funding to the Smithsonian 
Institution in FY 2025, including at least $60 million to the National 
Museum of Natural History with new funding to support scientific and 
curatorial work. We urge Congress to provide the USGS with $1.85 
billion in FY 2025, with at least $395 million for its Ecosystems 
Mission Area. We further request that Science Applications within USFWS 
be provided at least $55.5 million in FY 2025. Lastly, we request that 
Congress provide EPA Science and Technology with at least $876 million 
in FY 2025.
    AIBS is a scientific association dedicated to promoting the use of 
science to inform decision-making that advances the biological sciences 
for the benefit of science and society. AIBS works to ensure that the 
public, legislators, funders, and the community of biologists have 
access to information to guide informed decision-making.
    The unprecedented loss of biological diversity and the associated 
negative impacts on human health and well-being are of significant 
concern. As human population grows and people increasingly come into 
contact with new environments and species migrating into new habitats, 
the risk of new diseases, such as zoonotic pandemics, is of growing 
concern. Biological diversity, however, offers a buffer against the 
spread of pathogens and contributes to environmental sustainability and 
increases our resilience to natural disasters. Robust Federal 
investments in scientific research and monitoring that improves our 
understanding of biological diversity and ecosystem function must be a 
priority. The agencies funded by this appropriations bill are centrally 
involved in conducting, supporting, and using this scientific research 
for public benefit.
                        smithsonian institution
    Scientific collections and the professionals and scientists who 
collect, care for, and study these resources are a vital component of 
our Nation's research infrastructure and bioeconomy. Collections are a 
critical resource for advancing the knowledge needed to address current 
global challenges such as climate change, biodiversity loss, and 
pandemics.
    The Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History 
(NMNH) is a valuable Federal partner in the curation of and research on 
scientific specimens. Scientists at the NMNH care for 148 million 
scientific specimens and ensure the strategic growth of this 
internationally recognized scientific research institution. To increase 
the availability of these scientific resources to researchers, 
educators, other Federal agencies, and the public, NMNH is working on a 
multi-year effort to digitize its collections and make the data 
available online. That effort will substantially increase the use of 
these collections by researchers, educators and students, and 
policymakers. NMNH is also working to strengthen curatorial and 
research staffing and to backfill positions left open by retirements 
and budget constraints. The current staffing level is insufficient to 
provide optimal care for the collections.
    Recognizing the importance of biological collections for research, 
the bipartisan CHIPS and Science Act called for the establishment of an 
action center for biological collections. Such a center will provide 
leadership, support, and coordination for federal, non-federal, and 
private collections and enable transformative research to address grand 
societal challenges. Many Federal agencies have a role in supporting 
the establishment of this center, including the Smithsonian 
Institution's NMNH. However, the budget for NMNH has not seen adequate 
increases in recent years. We urge Congress to provide NMNH with at 
least $60 million in FY 2025 to allow the museum to undertake critical 
collections care, make needed technology upgrades, and conduct cutting 
edge research.
                         u.s. geological survey
    The USGS provides unbiased, independent research, data, and 
assessments that are needed by public and private sector decision-
makers. Data generated by the USGS save taxpayers money by enabling 
more effective management of water and biological resources and 
providing essential geospatial information that is needed for 
commercial activity and natural resource management. The data collected 
by the USGS are simply not available from other sources.
    The Ecosystems Mission Area is the biological research arm of USGS 
and is integral to the agency's other science mission areas. It 
provides the science needed to achieve sustainable management and 
conservation of natural resources and inform land and water 
stewardship. The USGS conducts research on and monitors fish, wildlife, 
and vegetation-data that informs management decisions by other Interior 
bureaus. Biological science programs collect and analyze long-term data 
not available from other agencies, universities, or the private sector. 
The knowledge generated by the USGS are used by Federal and State 
natural resource managers to maintain healthy and diverse ecosystems 
while balancing the needs of public use.
    Examples of successful USGS Ecosystem initiatives include:

  --Development of comprehensive geospatial data products that 
        characterize the risk of wildfires on all lands in the United 
        States. These products are used to allocate firefighting 
        resources and to plan wildfire fuel reduction projects.

  --Development and evaluation of control measures and other management 
        interventions for invasive species, such as Asian carp and sea 
        lamprey, that cause billions of dollars in economic losses to 
        fisheries, hydropower, recreation, and many other industries.

  --Development of the scientific understanding needed to combat the 
        spread of avian flu, white-nose syndrome, and other diseases 
        spread by wildlife in North America, including diseases that 
        can jump from wild populations to livestock, agricultural 
        systems, and humans.

    The USGS also supports critical science needed to respond to a 
number of national and global challenges. Examples of the important 
work conducted by the USGS include:

  --The National and Regional Climate Adaptation Science Centers. This 
        program is responsible for developing the science and tools to 
        address the effects of climate change on land, water, wildlife, 
        fish, ecosystems, and communities. These centers play a vital 
        role in addressing the impacts of unique weather patterns on 
        ecosystem health across the country.

  --The National Wildlife Health Center. This USGS-wide program 
        investigates national and international wildlife health issues, 
        including the spread of zoonotic pathogens, such as the virus 
        that causes COVID-19. Zoonoses-diseases that spread from 
        wildlife to humans-can pose serious threats to human health and 
        cause significant disruptions to the economy.

  --Cooperative Research Units (CRUs). CRUs are located on 43 
        university campuses in 41 States. These research centers are a 
        cost-effective way for USGS to leverage research and technical 
        expertise affiliated with these universities to conduct 
        actionable research, provide technical assistance, and develop 
        scientific workforces through graduate education and mentoring 
        programs.

  --Environmental Health Research. The Toxic Substances Hydrology and 
        Contaminant Biology programs work collaboratively with other 
        Mission Areas, and with external collaborators to study 
        environmental contaminants and pathogens and provide the 
        critical science needed to help Federal, State, and local 
        government agencies, the private sector, non-governmental 
        organizations, and other stakeholders protect fish and wildlife 
        health using a One Health approach that recognizes the 
        interdependence of human, animal, and ecosystem health.

  --Research on ecosystems of concern. This research is a critical 
        component of efforts to restore and manage important national 
        resources, such as the Everglades and the Chesapeake Bay. The 
        Changing Arctic Ecosystems initiative conducts research on 
        wildlife and habitat responses to ecosystem change in the 
        Arctic to inform land and species management decisions and 
        address the needs of Arctic residents, including Native 
        communities.

    In summary, the USGS is uniquely positioned to provide a scientific 
context for many of the Nation's biological and environmental 
challenges, including pandemics, water quality and use, energy 
independence, and conservation of biodiversity. This array of research 
expertise not only serves the core missions of the Department of the 
Interior, but also contributes to management decisions made by other 
agencies and private sector organizations. USGS science also enables 
cost-effective decisions, as the agency's activities help to identify 
the most efficient management actions. Increased investments in these 
important research activities will yield dividends.
    We urge Congress to provide significant funding increases to the 
Ecosystems Mission Area. In recent years, the budget for USGS has not 
seen adequate increases. In fact, in FY 2024, the agency received a 3 
percent cut. Failure to make critical investments in the research 
conducted by the agency will hamper long-term data collection 
initiatives, lead to critical data loss, and undermine the Nation's 
ability to address national challenges.
    We request that Congress fund the USGS at $1.85 billion in FY 2025, 
with at least $395 million for the Ecosystems mission area.
                     u.s. fish and wildlife service
    The Science Applications program within USFWS supports science 
partnerships with external stakeholders for collaborative landscape 
conservation activities. It supports pollinator conservation, proactive 
conservation of at-risk species and their habitats, habitat and 
ecosystem restoration grants, as well the agency's climate change 
action program. In FY 2023, Science Support was merged with the 
Cooperative Landscape Conservation activity and renamed Science 
Applications. The enacted funding for Science Applications in FY 2023, 
however, was lower than the combined FY 2022 funding for its two 
activities. The program received a further 4 percent reduction in 
funding in FY 2024.
    We request that Science Applications be provided at least $55.5 
million in FY 2025 with robust funding for research activities 
previously under Science Support.
                    environmental protection agency
    Funding for EPA Science and Technology supports valuable research 
that identifies and mitigates environmental problems. EPA research 
informs decisions made by public health and safety managers, natural 
resource managers, businesses, and other stakeholders concerned about 
air and water pollution, human health, and land management and 
restoration. This program provides the scientific basis upon which EPA 
monitoring and enforcement programs are built.
    Despite the important role of EPA Science and Technology in the 
Federal Government's ability to ensure that people have clean air and 
water, funding for this account in recent years has remained 
significantly lower than its peak of $846 million in FY 2010. Notably, 
in FY 2024, EPA's Science and Technology budget was reduced by nearly 6 
percent to $758 million. Strong increases in funding are needed for 
programs such as the consistently under-funded Science to Achieve 
Results (STAR) Research Grants Program, which supports extramural 
research that advances EPA's mission to protect human health and the 
environment, and the Global Change Research program, which develops 
scientific information that allows policy makers, stakeholders, and 
society to respond to climate change.
    Please provide at least $876 million in FY 2025 to support 
scientific research at the EPA. This much needed increase will allow 
the agency to provide resources for efforts to protect and restore our 
Nation's natural resources.
                               conclusion
    We urge Congress to sustain its bipartisan support for science by 
investing in our Nation's scientific capacity. Thank you for your 
thoughtful consideration of this request.

    [This statement was submitted by Jyotsna Pandey, Ph.D., Community 
Programs Director, American Institute of Biological Sciences.]
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 Prepared Statement of the American Indian Higher Education Consortium
    On behalf of the Nation's 35 accredited Tribal Colleges and 
Universities (TCUs), which collectively are the American Indian Higher 
Education Consortium (AIHEC), we thank you for the opportunity to share 
our Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 funding requests. The following is a list of 
recommendations including the Department, programs, and funding 
requests.

Department of the Interior--Bureau of Indian Education

  --Title I, II, III, and Contracts & NCAA: $108,590, 607

  --Title V (Tribal Career/Technical Institutions): $15,000,000

  --TCU Construction & Facilities Improvement: $35,000,000

  --Institute of American Indian Arts with Center for Lifelong 
        Education & Museum: $13,982,000

  --Haskell Indian Nations University and Southwestern Indian 
        Polytechnic Institute: $30,000,000
tribal colleges & universities: serving students across indian country 
                            & rural america
    Currently, 35 accredited TCUs operate more than 90 campuses and 
sites in 16 States. Three emerging institutions, located in California 
(two) and Arizona (one), are on their way to seeking accreditation. 
These institutions serve students from over 250 Federally Recognized 
Indian Tribes and embody a vital component of Tribal higher education.
    Over 80 percent of Indian Country is served by TCUs. Tribal 
colleges not only serve students, but they also serve over 160,000 
American Indians, Alaska Natives, and other rural residents each year 
through a wide variety of academic and community-based programs. All 
TCUs offer certificates and associate degrees; 22 offer bachelor's 
degrees; 9 offer master's degrees; and one offers a doctoral degree. 
Our programs range from liberal arts to technical and career programs. 
As open enrollment, community-based institutions, Tribal colleges 
welcome all students and proudly became a part of this nation's land-
grant family in 1994.
    Funding cuts of any amount to even one TCU program would force TCUs 
to scale back vital programs and services that students rely on to 
complete degree and certificate programs needed to succeed in their 
chosen career paths. Any reduction in funding will threaten TCU 
accreditation status and further stretch overtaxed faculty and staff or 
result in cuts to faculty and staff. The following are justifications 
for TCU FY 2025 funding requests.
                       bureau of indian education
    Title I, II, III, and Contracts & NCAA: AIHEC requests the 
subcommittee to provide $108,590, 607 for the Title I, II, III, and 
Contracts. The $108,590,607 funds institutional operations under Title 
I ($92,200,000) and Title II (17,633,000) along with TCU Endowments 
($113,251) and technical assistance ($728,339,000), of the TCU Act. 
This funding would provide the Congressionally authorized amount of 
$10,907*/Indian student for the first time since the enactment of the 
TCU Act more than 40 years ago (*$8,000 per Indian student adjusted for 
inflation). This request also provides an additional $100,000 for 
needed technical assistance, which has been level-funded for 15 years 
despite the growing numbers of developing TCUs and increased demands 
for accountability and student success. As we move forward, we are 
worried about TCU operating funding: at least three new TCUs could join 
the pool soon (California Indian Nations College, California Tribal 
College, and San Carlos Apache College). The addition of these TCUs is 
important for Indian Country, but only if support is available to 
ensure that they can operate effectively.
    Title V (Tribal Career/Technical Institutions): AIHEC requests the 
subcommittee to provide $15,000,000 for Title V funding for the Tribal 
Career and Technical Institutions. For Tribal career and technical 
institutions authorized under Title V of the TCU Act, we request 
$15,000,000. Section 117 of Perkins V provides the primary operating 
funding source for Navajo Technical University (NTU) and United Tribes 
Technical College (UTTC). It is the responsibility of the Federal 
Government to provide operating funding for these institutions due to 
treaty obligations, the Federal trust responsibility, and the exchange 
of over one billion acres of land. Neither NTU nor UTTC are part of a 
State higher education system, and they do not benefit from state-
appropriated college funds. Current funding under section 117, while 
greatly appreciated, is low and does not adequately provide the 
resources necessary to fully support the operational needs of existing 
grantees. These institutions provide vital workforce development and 
job creation, education, and training programs to American Indians and 
Alaska Natives from Tribes and communities with some of the highest 
unemployment rates in the Nation.
    TCU Construction & Facilities Improvement: AIHEC requests the 
subcommittee to provide $35,000,000 for TCU Construction & Facilities 
Improvement. For TCUs to realize their goals of strengthening Tribal 
nations with a modern workforce, TCUs must have the facilities and 
infrastructure capable of educating and training students in a safe 
environment. It simply cannot be done on the scale needed in classrooms 
with leaking roofs and substandard electrical wiring; outdated computer 
labs; students sleeping in cars and trucks because there are no dorms; 
and the slowest--yet most expensive--Internet access of any institution 
of higher education in the country.
    The Senate Interior Appropriations report has requested that the 
Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) develop a consistent methodology for 
determining TCU operating and maintenance needs. The report's results 
will likely expand on the needs identified in a July 2021 AIHEC survey, 
which revealed many chronic unmet facilities and infrastructure needs, 
including a lack of student and faculty housing, inadequate classroom 
space, insufficient libraries, and outdated laboratories.
    Leech Lake reservation, the largest in Minnesota, requires students 
to drive over an hour to get to class if they have reliable 
transportation. Due to the size and lack of housing on the reservation, 
Leech Lake Tribal College has identified the need for dormitories to 
address many of the challenges faced by its students. Little Big Horn 
College in Montana is renting or borrowing space for its career and 
technical programs in electrical, plumbing, HVAC, Welding, and 
Agriculture technology. Northwest Indian College, serving the 
communities of Bellingham, Washington and Lapwai, Idaho would like to 
build its cybersecurity program to address Tribal community and 
business needs. The college also has $20 million in differed 
maintenance costs and needs $35 million to complete its campus master 
plans.
    In the aggregate, AIHEC's survey calculated $400 million (total) in 
deferred maintenance and rehabilitation costs and $2.7 billion (total) 
to complete existing master plans. To begin to address TCU 
infrastructure needs, AIHEC requests $35 million be allocated in FY 
2025.
    Institute of American Indian Arts with Center for Lifelong 
Education & Museum: AIHEC requests the subcommittee to provide 
$13,982,000 for the Institute of American Indian Arts. The Institute of 
American Indian Arts (IAIA) is the birthplace of contemporary Native 
art and holds a unique position as one of the only three colleges in 
the United States chartered by Congress. At IAIA, meaningful dialogue 
occurs, skills are honed, and creativity flourishes. World-class 
educational experiences happen inside our studio and classroom walls. 
Outstanding students, faculty, and staff gather to propel student 
success forward. The college embraces its rich history while actively 
working to share the future.
    Haskell Indian Nations University and Southwestern Indian 
Polytechnic Institute: AIHEC requests the subcommittee to provide 
$30,000,000 for the BIE's two postsecondary institutions (Haskell 
Indian Nations University and Southwestern Indian Polytechnic 
Institute). Haskell Indian Nations University (HINU) has an average 
enrollment of over 1000 students each semester. Students represent 
federally recognized Tribes from across the United States and are as 
culturally diverse as imaginable. Students select programs that will 
prepare them to enter baccalaureate programs in elementary teacher 
education, American Indian studies, business administration, and 
environmental science; to transfer to another baccalaureate degree-
granting institution; or to enter directly into employment. HINU 
continues to integrate American Indian and Alaska Native culture into 
all its curricula. The Southwestern Indian Polytechnic Institute (SIPI) 
is a federally funded Tribal college located in Albuquerque, New 
Mexico. It was established in 1971 as a vocational training center to 
provide education and training to Native American individuals from 
various Tribes across the United States. SIPI's main focus is on 
science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) education, 
along with other vocational and technical programs.
                               conclusion
    TCUs provide thousands of American Indian and Alaska Native 
students with access to high-quality, culturally appropriate, 
postsecondary education opportunities, including critical early 
childhood education programs. The modest Federal investment in TCUs has 
paid significant dividends in employment, education, and economic 
development. We ask you to renew your commitment to help move our 
students and communities toward self-sufficiency and request your full 
consideration of our FY 2025 appropriations requests. Thank you.

    [This statement was submitted by Tribal Colleges and Universities.]
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          Prepared Statement of the American Lung Association
           summary of fy 2025 appropriations recommendations
  --EPA topline--$12 billion
  --Clean Air Program overall--$915.5 million
  --Climate Protection Program--$181.2 million
  --Categorical Grants: State and Local Air Quality Management--$500 
        million
  --Categorical Grants: Tribal Air Quality Management--$57.4 million
  --Compliance Monitoring--$162.1 million
  --Enforcement--$391.4 million
  --Environmental Justice--$369.1 million
  --Diesel Emissions Reduction Grant Program--$150 million
  --EPA Radon Program--$5 million
  --Categorical Grant: Radon--$18 million
  --Wildfire Smoke Preparedness--$15 million
  --Office of Air and Radiation, Indoor Environments Division--$100 
        million

    Thank you for the opportunity to highlight the funding priorities 
of the American Lung Association within the Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA) for fiscal year 2025 (FY25). The American Lung Association 
is the trusted champion for lung health, working to save lives by 
improving lung health and preventing lung disease through education, 
advocacy and research. We urge the Committee to support $12 billion in 
funding for the Environmental Protection Agency.
    EPA programs play an important role in efforts to improve lung 
health and save lives. The Agency is responsible for setting and 
enforcing national air pollution standards, supporting air quality 
monitoring, implementing emissions reductions and educating the public 
about the health harms of pollution. Air pollution poses a threat to 
the health of all Americans, but some individuals are at elevated risk. 
There are 34.4 million Americans living with a chronic lung disease 
like asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Children, 
seniors, individuals who are pregnant and people who work and play 
outside are also more likely to suffer health harms. Additionally, 
people of color and people with low incomes are often exposed to air 
pollution at a higher rate. The Lung Association's 2024 ``State of the 
Air'' report found that nearly 70 million people of color and 16 
million people with incomes meeting the Federal poverty definition live 
in counties that received a failing grade for ozone and/or particle 
pollution.\2\
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    \2\ The American Lung Association. State of the Air, April 2024 
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    EPA is also responsible for administering grants to States, 
localities, Tribes and other entities to improve health by improving 
air quality and climate resilience. While legislation passed in the 
past few years provided necessary increases in funding for communities 
to see relief from the impacts of pollution and climate change, it does 
not replace the need for funding the agency's core programs and 
infrastructure. The American Lung Association urges robust investments 
in the following key programs:
    Provide $915.5 million for EPA's Clean Air program. EPA is the 
agency responsible for protecting the public from air pollution and the 
Clean Air program is necessary to meeting that responsibility. Through 
this funding line, EPA assists States, Tribes and localities with 
implementing comprehensive air quality management programs and provides 
testing and oversight to ensure unlawful pollution is not impacting the 
health of communities. Please provide $694.6 million for Environmental 
Programs and Management and $220.9 million for Science and Technology.
    Provide $500 million for State and Local Air Quality Monitoring 
Grants and $57.4 million for Tribal Air Quality Monitoring Grants. 
Accurately monitoring air quality is necessary to ensure resources to 
clean up pollution are spent effectively and deliver benefits to the 
areas in need of pollution cleanup. Unfortunately, State, local and 
Tribal air agencies--who run the Nation's official air quality 
monitoring system--continue to face budget shortfalls and many are 
operating with out-of-date monitors. Supplemental funding passed over 
the past few years was necessary to progress towards an expanded and 
more efficient network, but it was not a replacement for regular and 
dependable appropriations. Both the National Association of Clean Air 
Agencies and the National Tribal Air Association conducted baseline 
needs assessments of their members to determine what would be needed to 
successfully implement programs under current and anticipated Federal 
requirements. The results showed that air agencies need increases if 
they are to adequately protect health by monitoring air pollution 
levels.\2,3\
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    \2\ National Association of Clean Air Agencies FY 2025 Funding 
Recommendations October 2023 https://www.4cleanair.org/wp-content/
uploads/NACAA_FY_2025_Grant-Recommendations.pdf
  \3\ National Tribal Air Association. Tribal Air Quality Priorities 
and the Resources to Address those Priorities: Key Findings of the 
National Baseline Needs Assessment Among American Indian and Alaska 
Native Communities, May 2022 https://www.ntaatribalair.org/wp-content/
uploads/2022/06/5.5.22-NTAA-Baseline-Needs-Assessment-Key-Findings.pdf
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    Provide $162.1 million for Compliance Monitoring, $391.4 million 
for enforcement and $369.1 million for environmental justice efforts. 
Enforcing EPA's science-backed air quality standards is necessary to 
truly achieve the rules' intended health benefits. EPA must have the 
resources and capacity to reduce non-compliance, as well as enforce 
penalties for violations. EPA must also be prepared to respond to civil 
enforcement actions authorized by the Clean Air Act. Additionally, air 
pollution does not impact everyone equally. Recognizing--and 
rectifying--the health disparities that come from air pollution 
requires dedicated funding and attention. We applaud the commitments to 
improving health disparities and urge that the funding matches that 
commitment.
    Provide $150 million for the Diesel Emissions Reduction Act and 
Support the Clean School Bus Program. The Diesel Emissions Reduction 
Act (DERA) Program is a bipartisan program to clean up cancer-causing 
diesel emissions. There are millions of legacy diesel engines still in 
use today that emit large amounts of pollution, making efforts to 
improve diesel engine efficiency a public health imperative. And it's 
cost-effective, with monetized health benefits exceeding Federal 
funding by a factor of 10. Additionally, we urge the Committee to 
continue supporting the rapid transition to zero emission school buses 
through the popular Clean School Bus Program. Over 600 school districts 
have received awards to replace over 5,000 diesel school buses with 
cleaner, low or zero-emission versions which will provide a safer, 
healthier environment for children, who are among those most at risk of 
health harm from breathing in pollution.
    Provide $5 million for EPA's Radon Program and $18 million for 
State Indoor Radon Grants. Radon is the second leading cause of lung 
cancer in the United States and is estimated to result in 21,000 deaths 
annually. EPA's radon program and its State Indoor Radon Grants are 
critical for reducing radon exposure and a necessary component of a 
comprehensive cancer reduction strategy. Significant progress has been 
made in reducing radon risks, but more than 90,000 homes each year 
still require radon fixes. There are also health disparities in radon 
exposure that need to be addressed, such as financial barriers to radon 
testing and mitigation lack of tenant protections. Additionally, we 
recommend that the Agency prioritize SIRG funding to States are seeking 
to adopt or strengthen certification requirements for radon measurement 
and mitigation workers, including the adoption of national consensus 
standards.
    Please provide $100 million for the Office of Air and Radiation/
Indoor Environments Division and $10 million to EPA's Office of 
Children's Health Protection. Indoor air pollution is particularly 
dangerous when it exists in classrooms full of children, who are more 
susceptible to health harms from breathing in toxins and pollutants. 
Pollution exposure can decrease attendance, negatively impact test 
scores and harm health such as by worsening asthma symptoms. 41% of 
school districts were found to be in need of HVAC repairs in at least 
half of their schools.\4\ Many school districts lack the education, 
training and resources to implement effective prevention measures, 
making EPA guidance and assistance necessary to access funding 
opportunities. Additionally, the Office of Children's Health Protection 
plays a critical role in researching children's risks and exposures in 
school and childcare facilities. Improving indoor air quality in 
schools will benefit kids health both in the short-term and long-term.
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    \4\ Government Accountability Office. (2020). K-12 Education: 
School Districts Frequently Identified Multiple Building Systems 
Needing Updates or Replacement (GAO-20-494)
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    Please provide $15 million for wildfire smoke preparedness. 
Wildfire smoke is an urgent threat to public health. States across the 
country--not just in the western US--have experienced the impacts that 
wildfire smoke can have on health. Furthering our understanding of the 
depth and magnitude of that health impact as well as identifying what 
interventions are most impactful will help officials respond in 
effective ways and spend resources wisely.
    Oppose all policy riders. Lastly, the American Lung Association 
also asks for your leadership in opposing all policy riders that would 
weaken key lung health protections, including those in the Clean Air 
Act. Policy riders have no place in appropriations bills, and the Lung 
Association strongly opposes attempts to include them, especially 
riders that would make it harder to protect Americans from air 
pollution.
    Investments in EPA programs are critical to protecting public 
health. On behalf of the Lung Association, I thank you for your 
consideration of these requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Harold P. Wimmer, President and 
CEO, American Lung Association.]
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           Prepared Statement of the American Nuclear Society
                      american nuclear society \1\
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    \1\ The American Nuclear Society is the premier organization for 
those who embrace nuclear science and technology for their vital 
contributions to improving people's lives and preserving the planet. 
ANS membership is open to all, and current membership consists of 
individuals from all walks of life; including engineers, doctors, 
students, educators, scientists, soldiers, advocates, government 
employees, and others. ANS is committed to advancing, fostering, and 
promoting the development and application of nuclear sciences and 
technologies to benefit society.
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    On behalf of the 10,000 men and women of the American Nuclear 
Society (ANS), I am pleased to provide one recommendation for an 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) program under the subcommittee's 
jurisdiction. We continue to be grateful to the Committee for its 
dedication and support for environmental protection programs and U.S. 
environmental safety standards.
  epa; environmental programs and management, office of radiation and 
                               indoor air
    ANS recommends an additional $3 million dollars for the EPA Office 
of Radiation and Indoor Air in FY 2025. The $3 million dollar addition 
would allow the EPA to begin development on a new generic, technology-
neutral protection standard that reflects modern, international 
practices and that would apply to future high-level nuclear waste 
disposal facilities as authorized by the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 
1982.
    This new standard will not impact any policies related to Yucca 
Mountain. The current quantity of high-level waste in America exceeds 
the maximum capacity originally meant for storage at the Yucca Mountain 
site; when Congress chooses to pursue a second repository in the 
future, this standards development must be completed to prevent 
unnecessary delays and prevent burdensome litigation. Updating the 
EPA's generic geologic repository standard is a long-term endeavor and 
will not result in any immediate changes to U.S. policy; it may take 
five to 10 years. Given the extended timeframe for the action, it is 
imperative that the EPA starts now on the development of an updated 
standard using state-of-the-art science to be applied to future 
repositories in order to protect public health and safety.
    In a 2017 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report on nuclear 
waste, GAO-17-174, experts advised that ``it would be premature for 
[the U.S. Department of Energy] to site a... repository until health 
and safety regulations are revised.'' Recognizing that the EPA has 
responsibility for revising regulations, EPA officials specified in the 
same report that ``they do not plan to invest resources in revising 
health and safety regulations without specific direction from 
Congress.'' Therefore, specific input from Congress directing the EPA 
to revise the standard in advance of other policy actions is necessary 
for the success of any future policy actions on commercial spent 
nuclear fuel.
    The Administration's FY 2025 budget request highlighted this future 
need and included a request for 2-3 FTE's which would address some of 
the critical gaps in EPA's radiological protection capacity including 
the ability to provide ongoing site characterization and analytical 
support for site assessment activities, radioactive waste storage and 
disposal approaches, remediation technologies, and measurement and 
information systems.
Requested Report Language:

Within the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Office of Radiation 
and Indoor Air, the Committee provides $3,000,000 to develop a new 
generic, technology-neutral protection standard that reflects modern, 
international practices and that would apply to future high-level 
nuclear waste disposal facilities as authorized by the Nuclear Waste 
Policy Act of 1982 (Public Law 97-425) as amended.

    For further information or questions, please contact John Starkey, 
ANS Director of Public Policy, jstarkey@ans.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Craig H. Piercy, Executive 
Director/CEO, American Nuclear Society.]
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      Prepared Statement of the American Psychological Association
    APA Services is the companion organization of the American 
Psychological Association, which is the Nation's largest scientific and 
professional nonprofit organization representing the discipline and 
profession of psychology, as well as over 157,000 members and 
affiliates who are clinicians, researchers, educators, consultants, and 
students in psychological science. Through the application of 
psychological science and practice, our association's mission is to 
make a positive impact on critical societal issues across the States. 
Many programs funded in the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
bill provide essential support for our Nation's public health programs 
by helping to provide critical access to essential mental and 
behavioral health services to American Indians and Alaska Natives.
  apa services urges congress to provide the following funding levels.
                       the indian health service
    APA Services urges Congress to provide at least $8.2 billion for 
the Indian Health Service (IHS). The IHS provides Federal health 
services to American Indians and Alaska Natives (AI/AN). As the main 
Federal health care provider for AI/AN people, its main goal is to 
improve their health care to the highest extent possible. The agency 
provides a health service delivery system for approximately 2.6 million 
American Indians and Alaska Natives who belong to the 574 federally 
recognized Tribes.\1\
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    \1\ Indian Health Service, (October 2019). Indian Health 
Disparities. Retrieved from: https://www.ihs.gov/newsroom/factsheets/
disparities/.
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    Increased funding is essential for the IHS since this population 
has a life expectancy of approximately 5.5 years less than the U.S. all 
races population and often has a disproportionate disease burden when 
compared to other populations.\2\ For example, American Indians and 
Alaska Natives die at higher rates than other Americans as a result of 
intentional self-harm/suicide, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, 
diabetes, unintentional injuries and assault/homicide.\3\
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    \3\ Ibid.
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    COVID-19 also highlighted how AI/AN communities were especially 
vulnerable to COVID-19, partly due to the long-term inequalities, high 
rates of poverty and high rates of underlying medical conditions within 
these communities. Now more than ever, it is important that Congress 
continue to address the needs of the most vulnerable. If more resources 
are not provided, the substantial number of health needs for AI/AN that 
already exist will become even greater.
                             mental health
    Within the Indian Health Services, APA Services recommends $139 
million be allocated to mental health services. This program is 
currently funded at $130 million. AI/AN communities often lack access 
to adequate health care, including behavioral health. Particularly 
striking are the suicide rates among adolescents and young adults in 
these communities. Suicide rates for AI/AN individuals between the age 
of 15 to 24 years old was 39.7 per 100,000, compared with the overall 
U.S. rate of 9.9 per 100,000. This rate is more than 3 and half times 
the suicide rate for males of all races in the age group. The suicide 
rate for AI/AN females in the same age group was lower than males at 
20.2. per 100,000. However, this rate was still nearly six times the 
rate for females of all races.\4\ Furthermore, during 2015-2020, 3,397 
suicides among AI/AN individuals and 179,850 suicides among non AI/AN 
were reported. About three quarters (74.6%) of AI/AN suicide decedents 
were under the age of 44, compared to less than half (46.5%) of non AI/
AN decedents.\5\
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    \4\ U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse 
and Mental Health Services Administration, (2017). Suicide Clusters 
within American Indian and Alaska Native Communities: A review of the 
literature and recommendations. HHS Publication No. SMA17-5050. 
Rockville, MD. Retrieved from: https://store.samhsa.gov/sites/default/
files/d7/priv/sma17-5050.pdf.
    \5\ Stone, D., Trinh E., Zhou, H., Welder, L., End of Horn, P., 
Fowler, K., Ivey-Stephenson, A., (September 2022). Suicides Among 
American Indian or Alaska Native Persons- National Violent Death 
Reporting System, United States 2015-2020. Morbidity and Mortality 
Weekly Report 2022; 71:1161-1168. Retrieved from: https://www.cdc.gov/
mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7137a1.htm.
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    Given the prevalent mental health concerns following COVID-19, 
mental health resources are even more critical now for all communities, 
especially those that have extensive histories of high rates of mental 
health concerns such as American Indians and Alaska Natives.
                       alcohol and substance use
    Within the IHS, APA Services requests at least $291 million be 
allocated to alcohol and substance use programs. This program is 
currently funded at $267 million. High rates of alcohol and substance 
use in AI/AN communities are well documented.\6\ This serious 
behavioral health issue has a strong impact on the health of 
individuals and families. AI/AN communities are much more likely to 
report past-year alcohol and substance use disorders than any other 
race.\7\
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    \6\ Indian Health Service, (2023). Behavioral Health. Retrieved 
from: https://www.ihs.gov/sites/newsroom/themes/responsive2017/
display_objects/documents/factsheets/BehavioralHealth.pdf.
    \7\ Ibid.
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    This population is also more likely to require alcohol use 
treatment than persons of any other ethnic groups.\8\ These programs 
can be extremely helpful for individuals struggling with alcohol 
addiction, however there is often a lack of availability of culturally 
sensitive treatment programs.\9\ The IHS is especially positioned to 
ensure such programs contain culturally sensitive components in the 
treatment plans.
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    \8\ American Addiction Centers. (February, 2024). Alcohol Addiction 
Resources for Different Demographics and Populations. Retrieved from: 
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/native-
americans.
    \9\ Ibid.
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                       indian health professions
    Within the IHS, APA Services requests $81.3 million for the Indian 
Health Professions account. This program is currently funded at $80.6 
million. We emphasize the importance of having psychologists who are 
aware of the cultural sensitivities of this community and can best 
address this community's needs. The Indian Health Professions account 
includes the American Indians Into Psychology Program (INPSYC). The 
primary goals of the program are to increase the number of AI/AN with 
doctoral degrees in psychology and enhance the cross-cultural 
understanding and competence of non-AI/AN about AI/AN psychology. 
Together, these aims will help ensure the development and maintenance 
of AI/AN psychology career recruitment programs to encourage AI/AN to 
enter the field of psychology.
    More specifically, the program recruits and trains individuals to 
be psychologists. It also provides scholarships to individuals enrolled 
in schools of clinical psychology to pay tuition, for books, fees and 
stipends for living expenses. Additionally, the program seeks to 
directly engage with Tribal communities in order to provide greater 
exposure to the field of psychology. Finally, the program provides 
stipends to undergraduate and graduate students pursuing careers in 
psychology and training opportunities for psychology graduate students 
in Tribal communities.\10\
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    \10\ Indian Health Service. American Indians Into Psychology 
Program. Retrieved from: American Indians into Psychology Program 
Student Opportunities (ihs.gov)
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    With the higher rates of suicide and other behavioral health 
concerns for this community, APA Services values the importance of 
increasing the number of AI/AN psychologists.
    For these reasons, APA Services recommends $81.3 million for the 
Indian Health Professions Account.

    [This statement was submitted byBy Katherine B. McGuire, Chief 
Advocacy Officer.]
                                 ______
                                 
                 Prepared Statement of American Rivers
    My name is Tom Kiernan, I am the President and CEO of American 
Rivers. Since 1973, American Rivers has protected wild rivers, restored 
damaged rivers, and conserved clean water for people and nature. With 
headquarters in Washington, D.C. and 355,000 supporters, members, and 
volunteers across the country, we are the most trusted and influential 
river conservation organization in the United States, delivering 
solutions for a better future. On behalf of American Rivers, I would 
like to thank Chairman Jeff Merkley and Ranking Member Lisa Murkowski 
for your leadership to reduce pollution in rivers, improve clean water 
access, and safeguard public drinking water supplies now and into the 
future.
    American Rivers is pleased to submit our full requests (see the 
full River Budget here and below) as part of the written testimony for 
the record. We address the funding and programmatic needs for Federal 
agencies' programs to make sure they are effective and efficient. 
Today, rivers across the country face daunting challenges on the road 
to recovery. From algal blooms in the Great Lakes to water scarcity in 
the Southwest and flooding in the Northeast, we must use every tool at 
our disposal to ensure heathy rivers have a fighting chance to bounce 
back. Our critical water supplies are at risk if we fail to fund these 
key programs that enhance our ability to improve river health and grow 
our economy. These topline figures are backed by River Budget Partners, 
a network of 156 partner organizations including utility and state 
agency associations, fishing groups, small businesses, rural 
communities, public health organizations, environmental justice 
leaders, and more.
Per our FY25 River Budget, we respectfully request the following:

 
 
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                                                             FY25
             Agency                     Program         Recommendation
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BLM.............................  Wild and Scenic             $7,500,000
                                   Rivers.
BLM.............................  Threatened and             $51,000,000
                                   Endangered
                                   Species (T&E)
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Chesapeake Bay             $93,000,000
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Clean Water SRF...      $7,600,000,000
EPA.............................  Drinking Water SRF      $7,600,000,000
EPA.............................  Environmental             $294,938,000
                                   Justice Programs.
EPA.............................  Great Lakes                   $450,000
                                   Restoration
                                   Initiative.
EPA.............................  Indian Reservation         $50,000,000
                                   Drinking Water
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Low Income                $225,000,000
                                   Household Water
                                   Assistance
                                   Program Pilot.
EPA.............................  National Non-Point        $200,000,000
                                   Source Management
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Puget Sound                $57,000,000
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Reducing Lead in          $100,000,000
                                   Drinking Water.
EPA.............................  Sewer Overflow and        $280,000,000
                                   Stormwater Reuse
                                   Municipal Grants
                                   Program.
EPA.............................  Assistance for             $80,002,000
                                   Small &
                                   Disadvantaged
                                   Communities
                                   Drinking Water.
EPA.............................  Water                      $80,344,000
                                   Infrastructure
                                   Finance and
                                   Innovation Fund.
EPA.............................  Water Pollution           $255,000,000
                                   Control (Sec 106)
                                   grant program.
EPA.............................  Wetlands Program           $20,000,000
                                   Development
                                   Grants.
Forest Service..................  Threatened,                $24,667,000
                                   Endangered and
                                   Sensitive Species
                                   (TES) Program.
Forest Service..................  Legacy Roads and          $100,000,000
                                   Trails (LRT)
                                   Program.
USFWS...........................  Delaware Watershed         $15,500,000
                                   Conservation Fund.
USFWS...........................  National Fish and          $10,000,000
                                   Wildlife
                                   Foundation.
USFWS...........................  National Fish               $7,500,000
                                   Habitat Action
                                   Plan.
USFWS...........................  National Fish              $30,000,000
                                   Passage Program.
USFWS...........................  National Wetlands           $8,000,000
                                   Inventory.
USFWS...........................  National Wildlife       $1,500,000,000
                                   Refuge System.
USFWS...........................  North American             $50,150,000
                                   Wetlands
                                   Conservation Fund.
USFWS...........................  Partners for Fish         $100,000,000
                                   and Wildlife
                                   Program.
IHS.............................  Sanitation                $250,000,000
                                   Facilities
                                   Construction.
NPS.............................  Partnership Wild            $5,800,000
                                   and Scenic Rivers
                                   Program.
NPS.............................  Rivers, Trails and         $15,000,000
                                   Conservation
                                   Assistance.
USGS............................  Groundwater and           $150,000,000
                                   Streamflow
                                   Information
                                   Program.
USGS............................  National Water            $100,080,000
                                   Quality Program.
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*For more detail, see here.

     support funding for the national wild and scenic rivers system
    We request that you support sufficient funding for the stewardship 
of the Wild and Scenic River System which preserves select free-flowing 
rivers that have nationally significant values for future generations 
of Americans. The National System protects 13,467 miles of 228 rivers 
in 41 States and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico; this is less than one 
half of one percent of the Nation's rivers. We also request that you to 
institute transparency and accountability by creating a sub-category 
line item for the Wild and Scenic Rivers programs within the USDA 
Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service 
budgets to better track performance. Without true accountability it is 
difficult to measure results and to apply limited resources 
appropriately to meet the agencies' statutory mandates.
    Additional appropriations include:

  --USDA Forest Service request: $15 Million in support of ongoing 
        management of designated rivers, Forest Plan Revision planning, 
        and necessary increases in river manager staffing.

  --U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service request: $450,000 to improve 
        resource protection and management capacity for Alaska Wild and 
        Scenic Rivers, Comprehensive River Management Plan development 
        and leveraging community involvement, and youth engagement 
        including in urban refuges.

    Investing in this nationally significant system of rivers pays back 
in multiple ways--tourism, hunting, fishing, other outdoor recreation, 
healthier ecological systems, abundant water resources-- and leverages 
local investments that strengthen local economies as well as the 
public's use and enjoyment of our country's natural resources. We 
appreciate your help providing stewardship resources for this uniquely 
American idea and establishing a legacy for local communities. This 
funding will enable agencies to meet their statutory requirements to 
protect and enhance those rivers that have been designated as 
nationally significant and avoid unnecessary litigation.
 support additional funding to remove dams for safety and fish passage
    Many dams have reached the end of their useful lives and pose 
public safety risks, negatively impact fish and other aquatic life, and 
can be costly liabilities to their owners. Removing dams is the fastest 
way to bring a river back to life. Removing dams restores native 
aquatic life to rivers, increases climate resilience, and reduces the 
risk of aging dams failing and causing catastrophic flood damages and 
even loss of human life. In addition, more than 1,400 people have died 
in the dangerous hydraulics created at the base of low-head dams. 
Funding from Congress is necessary to support the removal of unsafe or 
obsolete dams, including dangerous low-head dams.
    Agencies of the Department of the Interior have demonstrated their 
ability to support barrier removal projects. These agencies need 
additional funding to support and expand this critical work. Funding is 
needed to adequately staff programs such as the U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service's (FWS) National Fish Passage Program. Despite the significant 
investment of Federal dollars through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law 
(BIL), FWS continues to receive many more proposals through their fish 
passage grant programs than can be funded. In addition, agencies need 
more funding to assess their water infrastructure, including dams, for 
safety, use, and end of life plans for projects no longer needed whose 
removal will relieve the maintenance burden on those agencies. 
Prioritizing funding to remove, rehabilitate, and/or retrofit dams is 
the best way to bring life back to damaged rivers and protect 
communities.
                          wetlands protection
    In May 2023, the U.S. Supreme Court limited the authority of EPA to 
regulate the Nation's waterway including creeks, streams, and rivers 
that are scientifically significant and/or connected to wetlands. In 
the ruling of Sackett v. EPA, the majority of justices narrowly 
interpreted the definition of ``waters of the United States'' in the 
Clean Water Act. American Rivers is concerned with this ruling and its 
impact to our Nation's rivers and waterways.
    This new interpretation puts unprecedented constraints on the types 
of waterways EPA has the ability to regulate which Congress empowered 
the agency to oversee. The amendments to the Clean Water Act in 1972 
passed overwhelmingly in a bipartisan fashion to enact strong 
protections to protect America's water resources. The dangerous 
precedent set by the Supreme Court sets us back and weakens national 
and State efforts to conserve and restore rivers, wetlands, and lakes 
that are essential to outdoor recreation, drinking water, and 
wastewater infrastructure.
    We urge the committee to fund the Wetlands Program Development 
Grants at a minimum of $20M for FY25. This funding will support 
development of State and Tribal wetlands programs and give communities 
a way to respond to water shortages. Today, one in 10 watersheds in the 
U.S. is stressed for water natural supply including Houston, TX; Salt 
Lake City, UT; Lincoln, NE; Cleveland, OH; Miami, FL; Atlanta, GA; 
Washington, DC; El Paso, TX; San Antonio, TX; San Franciso Bay Area, 
CA; and Los Angeles, CA.
  direct cost recovery funds back to usfws to support its hydropower 
            programs and improve fish migration initiatives
    Improving fish passage at hydropower sites can prevent further 
declines in migratory fish populations and support sustainable 
commercial, Tribal, and recreational fisheries. Fish such as the 
Pacific and Atlantic salmon and other migratory species, such as shad, 
river herring, American eel, lamprey, and sturgeon need access to both 
the ocean and freshwater habitat to complete their life cycles. But 
barriers like hydropower dams block migration patterns and access which 
lead to steep population declines and potential loss of species. USFWS' 
Hydropower Program is a vital program that partners rely on to identify 
and implement solutions to reopen rivers for migratory fish while 
preserving hydropower generation in smart and sustainable way. With 
more than 1,600 hydropower projects regulated by the Federal Energy 
Regulatory Commission, USFWS needs more funding for staffing and 
science to upgrade and retrofit our Nation's hydropower infrastructure.
    Over the next 10 years, we will see a rise in hydropower 
relicensing with over 440 scheduled to start the licensing process by 
2035. We request the committee support reporting language that makes 
cost recovery for agencies at USFWS' Hydropower Program more explicit 
and efficient so they can continue providing technical assistance, 
staffing, and capacity for the relicensing process that are in the 
pipeline. Specifically, we ask the committee to support language on the 
disposition of charges arising from licenses. Currently, during the 
relicensing process charges are returned to the U.S. Treasury instead 
of to USFWS' Hydropower Program which could then use the funds 
dedicated for hydropower to support workloads for upcoming relicenses. 
We must do more to empower NOAA Fisheries Hydropower Program to keep 
their funding for future projects, so they can better prepare and 
provide the much-needed expertise for the wave of relicenses that are 
incoming. Direct cost recovery would be a major benefit to the 
hydropower programs, however additional funding is likely necessary for 
the programs to work with the full suite of hydropower projects to 
conserve and restore the migratory fish affected by them.
                               conclusion
    Thank you for your consideration of these funding requests, and for 
your leadership on appropriations. We look forward to working with you 
to support these opportunities to restore and protect rivers across 
America. Please contact Jaime D. Sigaran, Associate Director, Policy 
and Government Relations (jsigaran@americanrivers.org) with any 
questions.

Sincerely,

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    President and CEO
    American Rivers
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   Prepared Statement of the American Society for the Prevention of 
                           Cruelty to Animals
    On behalf of our more than 2 million supporters, the American 
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) submits this 
testimony to the House Appropriations subcommittee on Interior, 
Environment and Related Agencies regarding the Wild Horse and Burro 
Program administered by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and U.S. 
Forest Service (USFS). Founded in 1866, the ASPCA is the first humane 
organization established in the Americas and serves as the Nation's 
leading voice for animal welfare. The ASPCA is dedicated to ensuring 
good welfare for all equines, building innovative programs to provide 
them with a unique, comprehensive network of support. We appreciate 
this opportunity and respectfully ask that the subcommittee consider 
the following requests when making FY2025 appropriations, including 
allocating $170,917,000 for the BLM's Wild Horse and Burro Program.
                    wild horse and burro management
    Our wild horses and burros should be revered as historical icons, 
treated humanely, and managed responsibly on our public lands. Yet, in 
the nearly 50 years since Congress charged the BLM with protecting our 
country's wild horses and burros, Americans have witnessed the agency's 
Wild Horse and Burro Program deteriorate into a continuous cycle of 
costly roundups and removals with little regard for the prioritization 
of on-range management of the herds. Thanks to past funding and strong 
congressional directives, we are starting to see the agency slowly 
embrace a more positive management framework. But more needs to be done 
to steer the program on track.
    Accordingly, we ask you to:

  --provide the funding needed to implement a multi-tiered non-lethal 
        management approach;

  --continue to include longstanding bill language prohibiting the BLM 
        and USFS from killing or selling wild horses or burros to 
        slaughter as part of the government's strategy for managing 
        wild herds;

  --continue to include report language directing the BLM to implement 
        each of the four below-described strategies for a more humane 
        and sustainable program; and,

  --ensure the agency will adhere to those directives by making the 
        funding contingent on BLM following the directives.

    Recognizing that the BLM's Wild Horse and Burro Program is in dire 
need of an overhaul, the ASPCA has partnered with a diverse group of 
stakeholders to propose a non-lethal, humane, and long-term approach to 
on-range management that would implement a strategic and comprehensive 
fertility control program on the range and eventually release the BLM 
from a continuous cycle of round-ups, removals, and warehousing of 
horses in off-range holding. The proposal contains four interdependent 
strategies that must be implemented simultaneously to have a meaningful 
effect: 1) immediate and robust application of proven, safe, and humane 
fertility control to manage the on-range population; 2) shifting horses 
currently in off-range BLM corrals to humane, cost-effective pasture 
facilities; 3) increasing safe wild horse and burro adoptions; and 4) 
removals of horses from densely populated herd management areas to 
reduce the population that must be managed on-range, the need for which 
will decrease over time as the program rebalances towards on-range 
management, with strict adherence to the BLM's Comprehensive Animal 
Welfare Program.\1\
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    \1\ Bureau of Land Management, Wild Horse and Burro Comprehensive 
Animal Welfare Program, PIM 2021-002: https://www.blm.gov/policy/pim-
2021-002
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    Accordingly, the FY2020 through FY2023 funding bills consistently 
increased funding for the Wild Horse and Burro Program and included 
clear language directing BLM to implement a comprehensive, on-range 
management program that embraces the four principles of our proposal. 
Although Congress decreased funding for the program in the FY2024 
funding bill, it maintained language requiring a non-lethal, science-
based wild horse and burro management program. With proper funding and 
with the appropriate safeguards guiding management, the BLM can 
effectively rebalance the program and ensure that wild horses and 
burros can live safely on our public lands for generations to come.
    We have been encouraged by some signs that the Department of 
Interior and the BLM are making important changes towards preventative 
management. Since Congress has allocated additional funds for the 
program, the BLM has been slowly embracing fertility control and has 
demonstrated an ability to scale up management activities. Yet despite 
report language directing the agency to implement an effective, 
nationwide fertility control program, it has long been the missing 
component of the prescribed multi-tiered management plan. Fertility 
control is a critical component of any successful program and it must 
be incorporated into the BLM's Environmental Assessments used to guide 
management decisions. Unfortunately, it appears that the prior report 
language has not been enough to convince the agency to implement a 
fertility control program at a meaningful scale. We therefore 
respectfully request the below bill language to more clearly direct the 
BLM to adhere to the report language.
    As part of its fertility control implementation, the agency should 
also do contingency planning for extreme climate conditions, drought, 
and other impacts to the program in order to achieve its goals for 
fertility treatment implementation. In 2021, for example, extreme 
drought conditions necessitated emergency removals of animals from the 
range. As a result, the BLM treated fewer than half of the mares they 
originally planned to inoculate using fertility control vaccines in 
their annual gather plan. In 2023, drought and inflation increased the 
cost of off-range care, resulting in a steep decline in fertility 
control treatments. It is mission critical, therefore, that the agency 
plan for these and similar, reasonably foreseeable events to ensure 
their management actions are effective and the program is in the best 
position to succeed in reaching its management goals.
    Unfortunately, Congress also must continue to adopt bill language 
to explicitly prohibit the agencies from destroying wild horses or 
burros or selling them with the result that the animal is destroyed as 
part of the government's management strategy. The Wild Free-Roaming 
Horses and Burros Act of 1971 declared that these icons were to be 
protected from harassment, branding, capture, and death. In 2004, 
however, the act was amended to allow the sale of these animals to 
slaughter; this infamous amendment, known as the Burns Amendment, was 
included as part of the appropriations package and was not voted on. 
The overwhelming majority of the American public opposes horse 
slaughter, and this amendment flew in the face of the stated purpose of 
the act, leading Congress to include annually the below requested bill 
language, which explicitly prohibits the agencies from utilizing lethal 
management. With the Burns Amendment still in place, this bill language 
remains necessary to protect our Nation's wild horses and burros.
    The ASPCA requests, therefore, that the subcommittee continue its 
progress towards a humane, non-lethal and effective wild horse and 
burro management program by reinvesting in the program and including 
the bill and report language identified below.
                        appropriations requests
    The ASPCA requests that the subcommittee fund the Wild Horse and 
Burro Program at the amount included in the President's Budget Request 
to implement a multi-tiered, humane, non-lethal and effective 
management approach: $170,917,000.
    The ASPCA requests that the subcommittee continue to include the 
following bill language, most recently included in FY24 as Section 417 
of Public Law 118-42, which prohibits the BLM and U.S. Forest Service 
from killing or selling wild horses or burros to slaughter as part of 
the government's strategy for managing wild herds:

        HUMANE TRANSFER AND TREATMENT OF ANIMALS
        SEC. XXX. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the 
        Secretary of the Interior, with respect to land administered by 
        the Bureau of Land Management, or the Secretary of Agriculture, 
        with respect to land administered by the Forest Service 
        (referred to in this section as the ''Secretary concerned''), 
        may transfer excess wild horses and burros that have been 
        removed from land administered by the Secretary concerned to 
        other Federal, State, and local government agencies for use as 
        work animals.
        (b) The Secretary concerned may make a transfer under 
        subsection (a) immediately on the request of a Federal, State, 
        or local government agency.
        (c) An excess wild horse or burro transferred under subsection 
        (a) shall lose status as a wild free-roaming horse or burro (as 
        defined in section 2 of Public Law 92-195 (commonly known as 
        the ''Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act'') (16 U.S.C. 
        1332)).
        (d) A Federal, State, or local government agency receiving an 
        excess wild horse or burro pursuant to subsection (a) shall 
        not-
            (1) destroy the horse or burro in a manner that results in 
            the destruction of the horse or burro into a commercial 
            product;
            (2) sell or otherwise transfer the horse or burro in a 
            manner that results in the destruction of the horse or 
            burro for processing into a commercial product; or
            (3) euthanize the horse or burro, except on the 
            recommendation of a licensed veterinarian in a case of 
            severe injury, illness, or advanced age.
        (e) Amounts appropriated by this act shall not be available 
        for-
            (1) the destruction of any healthy, unadopted, and wild 
            horse or burro under the jurisdiction of the Secretary 
            concerned (including a contractor); or
            (2) the sale of a wild horse or burro that results in the 
            destruction of the wild horse or burro for processing into 
            a commercial product.

    The ASPCA requests that the subcommittee include the following 
report language directing the BLM to implement the multi-tiered humane, 
non-lethal and effective management approach for a more humane and 
sustainable program:
    Wild Horse and Burro Program. The bill provides $170,917,000 for 
the Wild Horse and Burro program. These funds are in response to the 
Bureau's May 15, 2020 proposal to institute an aggressive, non-lethal 
population control strategy to address the current unsustainable 
trajectory of on-range wild horse and burro population growth. The 
Committees expect this strategy to continue and to include a robust 
expansion of fertility control utilizing methods that are proven, safe, 
effective, and humane. Such treatments and on-range gathers are to be 
maximized, even if appropriate management levels are not immediately 
achievable. As the Bureau works to substantially increase on-range 
gathers for removal, the Committees encourage the Bureau to continue to 
secure cheaper and longer-term off-range holding facilities and 
pastures. The Committees further expect the Bureau to demonstrate its 
ability to increase its capacity for gathers; procure additional short 
and long term holding facilities; and to ensure that adequate staffing 
requirements are met, both in the field and in a location that will 
facilitate communication with policy makers. The Bureau shall continue 
to abide by the Comprehensive Animal Welfare Program and the statutory 
restrictions on sale without restriction, and the directives contained 
in Fiscal Year 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 House and Senate 
Reports and Explanatory Statements. Finally, the Committees believe 
that the full and successful implementation of the Bureau's strategy 
will be greatly enhanced with a traditional congressional 
communications policy that includes regular and timely briefings on the 
progress being made and the challenges ahead.
    The ASPCA requests that the subcommittee include the following bill 
language directing the BLM to adhere to the report language below:
    Provided, That the funds for the wild horse and burro program shall 
be expended in accordance with the report accompanying this act. 
Provided further, That the Bureau of Land Management shall submit 
reports to Interior Appropriators in accordance with the report 
accompanying this act.

    [This statement was submitted by Meredith Hou, Director of Federal 
Legislation, Government Relations.]
                                 ______
                                 
                   Prepared Statement of AmericaView
    Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members 
of the subcommittee, for your past support and the opportunity to 
testify before you today. My name is Christopher McGinty, and I serve 
as the Executive Director of AmericaView. AmericaView is a national 
collaborative non-profit STEM network of 41 member States called 
StateViews. AmericaView's mission is to empower Earth observation 
education through remote sensing science, applied research, workforce 
development, technology transfer, and community outreach. We 
respectfully request that you continue to enable the USGS Remote 
Sensing State Grants Program within the Department of the Interior to 
reach all 50 States and the U.S. territories by including $10 million 
for the program in FY 2025.
    Remote sensing and Earth observation are vital to advancing 
technology and industry, conservation and environmental stewardship, 
and career paths in STEM. By investing in the USGS Remote Sensing State 
Grants Program, Congress will be pivotal in supporting the development 
of the next generation of Earth observation students, scientists, 
innovators, business leaders, problem-solvers, and public sector 
drivers of technological advancements. This crucial investment in the 
grant program will ensure that the United States remains globally 
competitive and has the technological prowess to support solutions that 
address critical issues such as natural resource sustainability, 
industry, and emergency response and recovery.
    The USGS Remote Sensing State Grants Program (also known as the 
National Land Remote Sensing Education, Outreach, and Research Activity 
[NLRSEORA] grant) has been competitively awarded to AmericaView since 
2003. Over the past two decades, this program has significantly 
addressed critical state-specific issues like health, security, 
emergency response, agriculture, and transportation. Each StateView 
provides technology, expertise, and actionable data collected from 
satellites and other means to tackle these challenges. Moreover, the 
program has been instrumental in engaging with educators and students 
to support tomorrow's technological workforce and provide educational 
opportunities for students through scholarships and training 
opportunities. It has also fostered relationships with underserved and 
indigenous communities across the United States, promoting the 
utilization of remote sensing and geospatial technology.
    In just the past 5 years, AmericaView has had an unmistakable 
impact across the remote sensing field, including but not limited to:

  --Trained or shared curriculum with 24,320 K-12 students, 2,621 K-12 
        teachers, 29,550 graduate and undergraduate students, and 4,299 
        members of the current workforce;

  --Established more than 35 new remote sensing courses or programs at 
        the university level and built an education resource portal for 
        its website;

  --Delivered hundreds of presentations to thousands of attendees at 
        national and international scientific and technology-sharing 
        conferences, statewide geospatial data meetings, and other 
        venues;

  --Made accessible and/or archived terabytes of publicly available 
        remote-sensing imagery and derivative information, hosting more 
        than half a million visitors at member websites;

  --Provided 464 funding opportunities for undergraduate and graduate 
        research and education positions;

  --Developed online STEM resources that supported tens of thousands of 
        educators during COVID pandemic school closures;

  --Funded 189 collaborative, regional projects to address 
        environmental challenges using remote sensing and Earth 
        observation.

    AmericaView is committed to expanding its program to all 50 States 
and U.S. territories, advocating for consistent funding to support 
state-specific initiatives. The use of remote sensing and geospatial 
data is rapidly expanding, driven by researchers and industries 
developing new applications to address pressing global issues such as 
resource and food security, a changing climate, urban planning, and 
disaster response. This evolution necessitates a workforce skilled in 
advanced technological applications. Thus, increasing funding for the 
USGS NLI Remote Sensing State Grants Program that supports AmericaView 
is essential. This increase will enable AmericaView to cultivate a 
nationwide workforce with the tools and expertise to effectively 
leverage these critical data and tools to address current and future 
challenges.
    For nearly two decades, the USGS NLI Remote Sensing State Grants 
Program has maintained roughly the same funding level, forcing 
reductions in the financial support allocated to each StateView year 
after year. As the number of participating States has increased-from 
just one to 41-the per-state funding has effectively decreased by more 
than 200%, creating a budget that now only allows for about $25,500 per 
State annually. Initially receiving $1.25 million annually since 2003, 
funding slightly increased to $1.465 million in FY 2023. This funding 
model is unsustainable as AmericaView strives to meet expanding 
national needs and USGS NLI grant objectives.
    The House-passed FY 2024 Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies appropriations bill included $3 million for the program. The 
Senate version of this appropriations bill maintained funding at the FY 
2023 enacted level of $1.465 million. The final FY 2024 spending 
package continued funding for the program at the enacted level. 
AmericaView appreciates this support for the Remote Sensing State 
Grants Program. However, we must underscore that for the program to 
make an even more significant, more sustainable impact nationwide and 
meet the current demand in our high-tech world, the Program requires an 
annual funding level of $10 million. Such an investment would 
significantly enhance a national program that has already demonstrated 
success. It would provide ample resources that USGS, NASA, EPA, FEMA, 
DHS, DOT, and State agencies in all 50 States depend on to bolster the 
use of Earth observation data that aids in education, outreach, 
workforce development, and applied research.
    As a nation, we are at an inflection point where our technological 
innovation and workforce can catapult our progress as a global leader 
and competitor in a way that directly impacts the economy and those 
most underserved in our society. The Remote Sensing State Grants 
Program, administered by AmericaView and allocated to the National 
network of StateView members, has not only helped enable the use of 
data throughout society for institutions, businesses, and government 
but has helped develop processes and educational tools that empower 
individuals, businesses, and academia. These processes and tools serve 
as a basis for establishing and responding to the needs of the 
workforce of the future.
    AmericaView and its national network appreciate your consideration 
of our request to include $10 million for the Department of the 
Interior's USGS Remote Sensing State Grants Program in the FY 2025 
Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies appropriations bill.
    Thank you for considering this request.

    [This statement was submitted by Christopher McGinty, Executive 
Director, AmericaView.]
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           Prepared Statement of the Animal Welfare Institute
    The Animal Welfare Institute, a national nonprofit animal welfare 
advocacy organization, asks the subcommittee to provide adequate 
funding levels for crucial wildlife programs and to include measures to 
protect at-risk species.
                   wild horses and burros (blm & fs)
    The BLM, which oversees the vast majority of America's wild horses 
and burros, continues to mismanage herds, relying on an endless cycle 
of costly removals from public lands instead of implementing 
immunocontraceptive vaccines to control fertility rates and manage 
these federally protected animals on the range. From FY22-23, the BLM 
removed over 25,500 wild equines. Historically, the agency has spent 
less than 1 percent of its annual WHB program budget on fertility 
control; yet the BLM spent over $100 million during FY23 alone on 
removals and holding. We ask the subcommittee to include a directive 
for a minimum of 10 percent of the BLM's WHB program budget to go 
towards the administration of proven and safe immunocontraceptive 
vaccines--specifically the widely supported porcine zona pellucida 
(PZP) vaccine, as per the National Academy of Sciences recommendation. 
Moreover, we strongly support the continued inclusion of provisions to 
ensure that both BLM- and U.S. Forest Service-managed wild equines 
cannot be destroyed for commercial purposes in order to protect these 
animals from slaughter, as well as language preventing the destruction 
of healthy, unadopted wild horses and burros.
    Lastly, in recent years, the BLM has pursued attempts to manage 
wild horses via a risky surgical procedure known as ``ovariectomy via 
colpotomy,'' which involves blindly locating the ovaries and severing 
them using a rod-like tool while the animal remains conscious. In its 
report on wild horse management, the NAS explicitly warned the BLM 
against using this procedure due to the risks of serious complications. 
Numerous lawmakers in the House and Senate have criticized the BLM's 
plans to ovariectomize horses and national polling shows overwhelming 
opposition to this procedure. In its FY25 budget justifications, the 
BLM proposes $15 million for a permanent sterilization program--despite 
clear congressional directives to devote a sizeable portion of its WHB 
program budget to implementing proven immunocontraceptive vaccines. We 
ask the subcommittee to include language barring the use of Federal 
funds to conduct ovariectomies on wild horses and burros so that 
taxpayer dollars can be directed towards cost-effective, safe, and 
humane fertility control methods such as PZP.
              endangered species act implementation (fws)
    We ask the subcommittee to appropriate $857.32 million across five 
programs to the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) for the purpose of 
Endangered Species Act (ESA) implementation:

  --$70.1 million for Listing

  --$469.36 million for Recovery

  --$185.56 million for Planning and Consultation

  --$10.5 million for Candidate Conservation in Conservation and 
        Restoration

  --$121.8 million for the Cooperative Endangered Species Conservation 
        Fund (CESCF)

    Implementation of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), our Nation's 
most effective law for species conservation, has been severely 
underfunded for years. The Fish and Wildlife Service requires a budget 
of $857.32 million across five programs to begin to make up for lost 
ground and put species on the path to recovery. As we face a worsening 
biodiversity crisis, this funding package will better allow FWS to 
implement the ESA in the way Congress intended when it dedicated our 
country to protecting the most imperiled species and habitats.
    Currently, FWS only receives around one-third of the funding 
required to properly implement the act. The funding levels requested 
above would help FWS process the backlog of approximately 200 species 
on the National Listing Workplan that still need to be reviewed for 
protections under the ESA, with more species petitioned for inclusion 
under the ESA every year. It would also be put toward developing 
recovery plans for the approximately 25% of species currently without 
plans and revising the 890 recovery plans that are now over two decades 
out of date and may no longer contain the best available science.
    In addition, the above funding levels would provide much-needed 
resources for maximizing the efficacy and efficiency of FWS 
consultations with other Federal agencies, States, counties, and 
private landowners, as well as implementing early conservation actions 
that keep species from ever reaching the brink of extinction. Finally, 
the CESCF serves as an essential source of funding for States and 
private landowners, making it a crucial tool for cooperative 
conservation.
                          trophy hunting (fws)
    We urge the subcommittee to include language prohibiting the use of 
funds by the FWS for the issuance of any permit authorizing the 
importation of a trophy-hunted elephant or lion trophy.
    African elephant and lion populations have undergone steep declines 
in recent years. African elephants and lions are both listed under the 
Endangered Species Act (ESA), demonstrating a scientific need for 
heightened protections. Between the early 20th century and 2016, the 
number of elephants in Africa plummeted from 3-5 million to 
approximately 400,000. In 2021, the IUCN Red List reassessed the 
African savanna elephant as endangered, meaning it faces a very high 
risk of extinction in the wild. African lion populations declined by 43 
percent from 1993 to 2014. The subspecies Panthera leo melanochaita, 
comprising the lions of east and southern Africa, is listed as 
threatened under the ESA, with only 17,000-19,000 remaining.
    The FWS responded with a series of vacillating trophy-import 
policies, calling into question the degree to which the agency had 
evaluated whether lion and elephant trophy imports from the countries 
enhanced the survival of the species, as required under the ESA. 
Subsequently, the FWS updated its regulations regarding the importation 
of elephant trophies in March 2024, adding some additional criteria 
that the country of origin must meet. However, it remains permissible 
to import African elephant and lion trophies into the U.S., a policy 
that continues to harm the viability of these species.
    In light of these conservation concerns, no funds should be 
provided for the issuance of import permits for African elephant and 
lion trophies.
                             trapping (fws)
    We urge the subcommittee to allocate $300,000 to the FWS to 
institute a 3-year pilot program that replaces the use of body-gripping 
traps (Conibears, legholds, and snares) on National Wildlife Refuge 
Service land by agency personnel with non-lethal methods and equipment. 
Furthermore, we hope the subcommittee will encourage the FWS to 
continue reviewing and updating both physical trapping signage and 
trapping information posted on the website, and continue providing 
trapping information to the subcommittee on an annual basis. In 
addition, for each refuge listed online as allowing trapping, the FWS 
should specify whether the trapping is conducted by private trappers 
for recreational/commercial purposes and/or by government personnel for 
management purposes.
    This request builds upon FY20-24 report language directing the FWS 
to conduct an evaluation of trapping practices by Federal personnel on 
Service lands, including an analysis of non-lethal alternatives to 
trapping. Given that FWS has not briefed the Committee on its findings, 
this request includes a directive to begin a pilot program to replace 
body-gripping traps with non-lethal methods for wildlife management 
purposes.
    The use of body-gripping traps by Federal personnel violates the 
mission of the National Wildlife Refuge System and is a threat to the 
safety of wildlife, humans, and pets. The purpose of these protected 
lands is clear: to be an inviolate sanctuary for native wildlife.
    Body-gripping traps, such as snares, Conibear traps, and steel-jaw 
leghold traps, are inhumane and inherently nonselective. The nontarget 
animals caught in these traps include threatened and endangered 
species, as well as family pets. Refuges are a very popular 
destination; the National Wildlife Refuge System attracts more than 61 
million visits every year. Additionally, many wildlife refuges are 
either close to or reside in urban areas. These traps are not an 
appropriate tool for wildlife management on national wildlife refuges 
where families enjoy spending time outdoors, and where anyone who trips 
a trap can become a victim.
    Nonlethal methods are often highly effective and FWS personnel 
would be serving both wildlife and outdoor recreation interests-such as 
hiking and nature photography, which account for approximately 86% of 
total recreation-related expenditures on refuges-by prioritizing their 
use.
                    beaver conflict mitigation (fws)
    Across the country, thousands of beavers are trapped, snared, and 
shot each year in an effort to prevent damage caused to property by 
beaver activity. However, this killing is often unnecessary due to the 
availability of cost-effective, nonlethal devices that can successfully 
prevent such damage. For example, trees can be shielded by encircling 
them with wire mesh fencing or coating their trunks with a mixture of 
paint and sand that deters beavers from chewing. Roads, agricultural 
resources, and other property can be protected from flooding by 
installing water flow control devices, which allow enough water to pass 
through a beaver dam to avoid flooding while ensuring sufficient pond 
depth for beaver use, thus maintaining acceptable water levels.
    Restraining traps and snares used to capture and kill beavers can 
cause prolonged pain and unintentionally injure and kill nontarget 
animals. They are also rarely, if ever, a long term-solution; beavers 
dispersing in search of suitable habitat can quickly recolonize trapped 
areas. By contrast, flow devices can provide long-term relief and 
typically last 10 years before they need to be replaced. Nonlethal 
measures to mitigate beaver conflicts are effective, cost-efficient, 
long-lasting, and ecologically beneficial. These devices can protect 
transportation infrastructure, buildings, agricultural lands, and other 
property. Despite these benefits, no Federal programs currently exist 
to promote or facilitate the use of these techniques.
    We urge the subcommittee to recognize the ecological benefits 
beavers provide to landscapes and ecosystems across the country by 
providing $3,000,000 to the Fish and Wildlife Service to institute a 
pilot program to provide grants to eligible entities for projects that 
seek to use nonlethal measures to achieve a reduction in damage to 
roads, railroads, bridges, buildings, airports, levees, dams, 
agricultural resources, trees, or other public or private property 
caused by beavers. Eligible entities are: States, Tribes; state, 
Federal and Tribal agencies, local governments, nongovernmental 
organizations, and landowners who have sustained property damage due to 
beaver activity in conjunction with one or more of these entities. 
Nonlethal measures are those that are not designed to grip, trap, 
relocate, injure, or kill beavers. Nonlethal measures include, but are 
not limited to, fencing and paint-sand mixtures used to protect trees, 
and water flow control devices used to prevent flooding and maintain 
beaver ponds at acceptable levels. To document the progress of this 
program, FWS should be encouraged to submit a report to the 
subcommittee describing activities under the pilot program each fiscal 
year.
                      prescott grant program (fws)
    We urge the subcommittee to provide no less than $4,000,000 for the 
John H. Prescott Marine Mammal Rescue Assistance grant program. The 
Prescott Program, led by the FWS, provides funding to eligible 
stranding network participants assisting stranded sea otters, manatees, 
Pacific walruses, and polar bears. Congress began to allocate funds to 
the FWS in fiscal year 2019 to implement the program. To date, the FWS 
has awarded $5.2 million in funding to conservation organizations and 
State agencies through the Prescott Grant Program. In fiscal year 2024, 
$2,300,000 was allocated towards this program. Given the rising number 
of strandings and the importance of marine mammals to the health of 
ocean ecosystems, at least $4,000,000 in funding is requested.

    [This statement was submitted by Nancy Blaney, Director, Government 
Affairs, Animal Welfare Institute.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Arctic Research Program at Woodwell Climate 
                            Research Center
    On behalf of the Arctic Research Program at Woodwell Climate 
Research Center (``Woodwell Climate''), I am pleased to provide this 
written testimony to the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on 
Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies for the official record. 
Woodwell Climate respectfully requests the subcommittee to (1) approve 
$492,374,000 in funding for the Bureau of Land Management Alaska Fire 
Service (BLM AFS) in Fiscal Year 2025 (FY 2025) so that it may meet its 
fire suppression mission amidst intensifying fire regimes in the Arctic 
and boreal regions; and (2) adopt the following report language:
    "Department of the Interior--U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service--
National Wildlife Refuge System. ``The Committee recognizes the 
Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management Commission recommendations to 
prioritize and deploy resources to address extreme wildfires in the 
U.S. As extreme fire regimes intensify across the U.S., there is an 
urgent need to understand evolving ecosystems and related data gaps in 
the Arctic and boreal forests. A standardized monitoring of the 
wildlife refuges is a prerequisite to designing and implementing 
effective and appropriate changes in fire management that the Fish and 
Wildlife Service and partner agencies are considering. The Committee 
directs the Fish and Wildlife Service through the National Wildlife 
Refuge System to conduct a study on ecological change due to fire 
regimes in Alaska wildlife refuges.''
    These requested actions are informed by Woodwell Climate's leading 
scientific research into cost-effective approaches for fire management 
in the high-latitudes; as this testimony explains further, a decision 
by the subcommittee to allocate additional resources for the BLM AFS 
and the National Wildlife Refuge System managed by the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS) will enable the U.S. government to mitigate 
immediate and long-term costs of Alaskan wildfires on infrastructure, 
ecosystems, human health, and the global climate.
  accounting for the costs of intensifying arctic-boreal wildfires in 
                                 alaska
    Record-breaking wildfires across the U.S. in recent years have 
highlighted the need for the Federal Government to reconsider the 
efficacy of existing fire management approaches and expenditures. This 
is particularly true for fires in Alaska, where rapid temperature rise 
in the region has led to pervasive intensification of wildfires in 
boreal forest, which have doubled the annual burned area compared to 
the mid-20th century. Wildfires in boreal forests pose significant 
implications for the U.S. carbon budget, as they contain roughly two-
thirds of global forest carbon, and Alaska wildfires currently 
contribute to half of all U.S. fire carbon emissions each year.\1\
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    \1\ Circumpolar boreal fires emitted roughly 1.8 Gt CO2 in 2021 
alone. See Zheng, B., Ciais, P., Chevallier, F., Yang, H., Canadell, J. 
G., Chen, Y., van der Velde, I. R., Aben, I., Chuvieco, E., Davis, S. 
J., Deeter, M., Hong, C., Kong, Y., Li, H., Li, H., Lin, X., He, K., 
and Zhang, Q.: Record-high CO2 emissions from boreal fires in 2021, 
Science, 379, 912-917, https://doi.org/10.1126/science.ade0805, 2023.
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    Woodwell Climate is collaborating closely with U.S. government 
agencies in Alaska to more accurately estimate the distinctive and 
outsized carbon emissions of these escalating fires, including the 
projected emissions from circumpolar wildfire and fire-permafrost 
interactions. Our latest research suggests that such emissions may 
reduce the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) estimates 
of remaining carbon budgets to stay within 1.5 to 2C of global warming 
by 10% or more.\2\
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    \2\ Treharne, R., Gasser, T., Rogers, B. M., Turetsky, M. R., 
MacDonald, E., Smith, T., and Natali, S.: Comprehensive assessment of 
permafrost carbon emissions indicates need for urgent action to meet 
Paris Agreement temperature goals, Nat. Clim. Change, in prep.
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    Limiting boreal wildfire emissions to pre-climate change levels 
through targeted suppression and other management approaches would both 
provide a significant natural climate solution and support a suite of 
co-benefits for Alaskan communities and those in the lower 48 who are 
likely to experience smoke exposure as northern fires intensify. Recent 
fire seasons have demonstrated the myriad of detrimental impacts caused 
by intensifying wildfires, including severe degradation of air quality, 
disruptions to air transport and travel, and damage to infrastructure 
(such downstream negative economic impacts are estimated at $30 billion 
to $200 billion per year in the lower 48). In addition to limiting 
these deleterious impacts, increased arctic-boreal fire management 
would create jobs and give fire managers desperately needed resources.
    Our research has found that fire management in Alaska is effective 
at reducing wildfire carbon emissions at a cost of $13 per ton CO2 of 
avoided emissions--comparable to or more cost-effective than many other 
climate mitigation measures.\3\ Yet Federal fire management in the 
state is also severely underfunded--receiving only 4% of Federal 
resources for fire management. The subcommittee therefore has a 
critical opportunity to reconcile this significant discrepancy by 
allocating additional funding to BLM AFS and FWS in FY 2025.
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    \3\ Phillips, C. A., Rogers, B. M., Elder, M., Cooperdock, S., 
Moubarak, M., Randerson, J. T., and Frumhoff, P. C.: Escalating carbon 
emissions from North American boreal forest wildfires and the climate 
mitigation potential of fire management, Science Advances, 8, eabl7161, 
https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abl7161, 2022.
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   supplemental funds for the bureau of land management alaska fire 
                                service
    Woodwell Climate urges the subcommittee to appropriate $492,374,000 
for the BLM AFS in FY2025, supplementing the AFS' FY2024 funding by $10 
million. This increase is necessary to enable the AFS to effectively 
respond to intensifying fire regimes in the Arctic and boreal; work 
with communities and state/local partners to reduce wildland risk, 
professionalize the AFS workforce, and otherwise support effective 
management of escalating wildland fires.
    For over 30 years, the BLM AFS has been dedicated to providing 
efficient and cost-effective fire suppression services for all DOI 
lands and those conveyed in Alaska under the Alaska Native Claims 
Settlement Act of 1971. Activities of the BLM AFS include, inter alia, 
implementing various services within the framework of approved fire 
management plans and through agreements with the respective land 
managers or owners, developing fire and aviation policy guidance and 
interpretation for BLM Alaska, leading the statewide fire and aviation 
programs, providing fuels management direction, conducting fire ecology 
research, and assisting with fire planning and policy interpretation. 
The BLM AFS also provides logistical and operational support to 
agencies, incident management teams, and individual firefighters; 
oversees initial and extended attack fire-related resources; and 
distributes wildland fire information to the public and news media 
during the fire season.
    Yet despite intensifying fire seasons, the BLM AFS budgets have 
remained at level or decreased over the past decade; current funding 
levels are directly impeding BLM AFS' ability to fully staff positions 
and meet its fire suppression mission against a backdrop of increasing 
fire activity. Unfortunately, Woodwell Climate's robust scientific 
research indicates continued escalation of this activity under our 
current climate trajectory.
    Woodwell Climate therefore recommends that the subcommittee approve 
this modest funding increase of $10 million in FY2025 for BLM AFS to 
measurably improve its fire management response for the subsequent fire 
season. The supplemental funding would better equip BLM AFS amidst a 
changing fire and climate regimes in the Arctic and boreal regions, 
including longer fire seasons and thawing permafrost. With the 
subcommittee's support, BLM AFS will be able to deploy more robust fire 
suppression efforts throughout Alaska, support active fuels management, 
and work with local communities and State and Federal partners to 
reduce wildland fire risk in Alaska, among other needs.
   directed fish & wildlife funding for research of alaska wildlife 
                                refuges
    Woodwell Climate appreciates that increased fire activity across 
the U.S. and projected escalation of fire regimes in the coming years 
has prompted a demand for improved fire management and preparedness. 
The Federal Government has consequently approved dedicated funding for 
strengthening wildfire response in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law 
and the Inflation Reduction Act, and funded a Report of the Wildland 
Fire Mitigation and Management Commission, which calls for bipartisan 
support of innovative approaches to wildfire management, additional 
Congressional appropriations for proactive measures, and allocation of 
additional funding for hazard data sets. While this progress is 
welcomed, notably absent from these efforts is sufficient scoping of 
fire impacts on the ecological systems in the Arctic-boreal region.
    Fire ecologists at Woodwell Climate and across the Federal 
Government focusing on the Arctic-boreal region agree that 
understanding such ecological impacts is a prerequisite for identifying 
new and cost-effective methods of fire management in Alaska. 
Accordingly, Woodwell Climate has recommended report language to this 
subcommittee that directs FWS to complete a baseline monitoring report 
on the ecological impacts of expanding wildfire on wildlife refuges in 
Alaska. As new fire management proposals are deployed so will ongoing 
monitoring of the refuges that deliver data on fire management 
protocols. This information will ultimately enable FWS to measure the 
appropriateness and effectiveness of various fire management 
interventions in comparison to the impact they have on ecological 
systems in the region. Capturing this information is increasingly 
important as fire regimes intensify in high latitude forests.
    Woodwell Climate is uniquely positioned to recommend this report 
language to the subcommittee, as our organization has collaborated with 
FWS and BLM AFS on a historic and foundational decision to enhance the 
fire suppression status of 1.6 million acres of Yedoma permafrost-rich 
land on the Yukon Flats National Wildlife Refuge in January 2023. 
Yedoma permafrost has particularly high ice and carbon content, and is 
highly vulnerable to post-fire thaw, degradation, and carbon emissions. 
This decision was the result of iterative consultation with Alaska 
Native residents within the refuge who are impacted by increasing smoke 
pollution and disruption to subsistence activities. It also addresses a 
growing concern for the loss of old growth habitat within the refuge.
    Support from this subcommittee to advance studies of the Yukon 
Flats National Wildlife Refuge and and others in Alaska would represent 
a monumental step in advancing arctic-boreal fire management and policy 
and indicate that carbon and permafrost protection from intensifying 
wildfires is a specific Federal priority. Over the next few years, 
Woodwell Climate scientists intend to collaborate with FWS and BLM AFS 
to estimate the avoided carbon emissions from reduced wildfires and 
permafrost thaw by combining data on suppression costs with modeled 
estimates of landscape fire progression. The requested report language 
and directive of this subcommittee will signal support for this work, 
thereby ensuring that a new era of Federal fire management is more 
responsive to climate, health, and economic considerations.
                               conclusion
    Woodwell Climate requests that the subcommittee approve a $10 
million supplemental to BLM AFS for FY25 and to approve report language 
that directs the US FWS, through the National Wildlife Refuge System, 
to conduct a study on ecological change due to fire regimes in Alaska 
wildlife refuges. On behalf of Woodwell Climate, I would like to thank 
you for the opportunity to provide this testimony. Please do not 
hesitate to contact me should you have any questions about Woodwell 
Climate or the Arctic Program's scientific research.

    [This statement was submitted by Dr. Peter Frumhoff, Senior Science 
Policy Advisor.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Assiniboine and Sioux Rural Water Supply 
                                 System
         fort peck reservation rural water system ($5,248,000)
    The Assiniboine and Sioux Rural Water Supply System (ASRWSS) 
submits this testimony in support of $5,248,000 in funding for 
continued Operations, Maintenance, and Replacement (OMR) of part of the 
Fort Peck Reservation Rural Water System as authorized by PL 106-382. 
The request consists of an increase of $1,803,000 above the FY 2023/24 
levels of funding as follows:

  --$750,000 to recover under-funding for FY 2024,

  --$750,000 in FY 2025 to maintain last year's base, and a

  --$303,000 in increases between FY 2024 and FY 2025 for inflationary 
        and other increases.

    The request for $1,803,000 above FY 2024 level of funding at 
$3,445,000.
    ASRWSS is the tribally chartered entity charged with the planning, 
design, construction, operation, maintenance and replacement (OMR) of 
the Assiniboine and Sioux Rural Water Supply System, which is the part 
of the Fort Peck Reservation Rural Water System on the Fort Peck Indian 
Reservation. We are strong partners with Dry Prairie Rural Water System 
(DPRWS), which operates the part of the Project that is off the 
Reservation.
    The most basic of governmental functions is the delivery of clean, 
safe, and reliable drinking water. We are honored to provide water and 
service in northeastern Montana to an area of 7,750 square miles 
connected by 3,200 miles of pipeline when completed in 2025.
    Obligation of all construction funding was concluded in FY 2023. 
The project provides drinking water to an area larger than New Jersey 
and just smaller than Massachusetts.
    The United States has invested $370 million in construction of 
ASRWSS and DPRWS through FY 2023 and will invest another $10 million as 
the project is completed. OMR funding is essential to the upkeep of 
this substantial Federal investment.
    The FY 2024 BIA Green Book intended to add $750,000 to the FY 2023 
funding in FY 2024 (see p. IA-CON-OTH-2), but conflicting tables in the 
Green Book requested only a minimal increase of $32,000 above the FY 
2023 level. The FY 2024 Explanatory Statement that ``...funding at the 
fiscal year 2023 enacted level for the project at Fort Peck...'' was 
likely based on the conflicting, unintended, virtually zero increase. 
BIA's $750,000 increase above the FY 2023 level of funding was intended 
to result in a budget of $4.205 million for FY 2024.
    The ASRWSS FY 2024 request of the House and Senate subcommittees 
was for $4.204 million in appropriations for the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs (BIA) Construction account ($772,000 above the FY 2023 funding 
of $3,445,000). The increase was an increase over FY 2023 and was due 
primarily to the significant inflation between 2021 and 2023. The 
following factors were listed in our FY 2024 testimony as supported by 
actual cost increases:

  i) inflation for all OMR items, particularly
    (1) chemicals
    (2) fuel
    (3) power and heating
    (4) asset replacement

  ii) continuing construction to advance service to more users on the
    (1) west side of the Fort Peck Indian Reservation
    (2) Scobey area of Dry Prairie

  iii) increase in production of water at treatment plant from 0.795 
        billion gallons in 2018 to 1.112 billion gallons in 2022.

    The annual increase in costs between FY 2024 and FY 2025 (not 
counting the 2 years of $750,000 needed) of $303,000 is due primarily 
to inflation. Water treatment production was basically the same in FY 
2022 and FY 2023 at 1.2 billion gallons, and we do not expect more than 
a 10% significant increase in FY 2025, barring severe drought. Chemical 
costs between FY 2022 and FY 2023 increased from $608,000 to $796,000 
and account for most of the additional $303,000 requested. Our power 
bills primarily for treating and pumping water throughout the project 
increased from $379,000 to $420,000. Both the chemicals and the power 
costs are dependent on the gallons of water produced. ASRWSS currently 
employees highly qualified and capable personnel that manage, operate, 
and maintain the system. Two more employees are needed to fill vacant 
points at a cost of about $150,000 for salaries, benefits, and payroll 
taxes or $75,000 each.
    ASRWSS continues to advance construction on the west side of the 
Fort Peck Indian Reservation, which will be completed in 2025 and will 
finish all ASRWSS construction. Dry Prairie is advancing on its 
remaining areas of construction north and west of the Reservation and 
will complete all construction in 2026.
    The funding request of $5,248,000 is necessary to:

  i) safely operate, maintain, repair and replace system features,
  ii) employ the necessary level of qualified and certified staff
  iii) purchase chemicals for treatment
  iv) purchase power for pumping and treatment facilities.

    The Congress (Energy and Water subcommittee) will have appropriated 
$380 million to complete the project through FY 2026. The ASRWSS/DPRWS 
projects are 98% complete, and full funding has been made available to 
complete the project in FY 2025. It is imperative, through Interior 
appropriations (and a DPRWS non-federal cost share), that ASRWSS 
maintain, and replace the investment of Congress in the ASRWSS 
infrastructure valued at $236 million and held in trust by the United 
States on behalf of the Tribes.
    The DPRWS cost share covers the OMR cost of their use common 
facilities as agreed upon between ASRWSS, DPRWS and the Secretary in a 
Water Service Agreement. DPRWS makes monthly payments on a timely 
basis. DPRWS will provide an estimated $789,000 in FY 2025 to 
supplement appropriations.
    ASRWSS provided drinking water to more than 17,400 residents in 
Northeast Montana in 2023. In 2026 when construction is completed in 
ASRWSS and DPRWS, over 19,300 residents will be served. Ultimately, 
31,000 residents will be served as the population of the region grows 
over the next several decades.
    The population served at the end of 2016 was less than 10,000, and 
OMR funding needs have been increasing accordingly. The project also 
serves social and governmental agencies, including the BIA Agency 
Office, schools, clinics, hospitals, Medicine Lake National Wildlife 
Refuge, Fort Union Trading Post National Historic site, U.S.- Canadian 
border stations, and the towns of Poplar, Wolf Point, Frazer, 
Culbertson, Medicine Lake, Scobey, Nashua, St. Marie, Fort Kipp, and 
Brockton. Opheim and will be served in 2024. The small Reservation 
communities of Reserve and Lustre were added in 2022.
    The Fort Peck Reservation Rural Water System was authorized by the 
Fort Peck Reservation Rural Water System Act of 2000, Pub. L. 106-382. 
The enactment ensured a safe, adequate, and reliable municipal, rural 
and industrial water supply for the residents of the Fort Peck Indian 
Reservation and the residents of Roosevelt, Sheridan, Daniels, and 
Valley Counties outside the Reservation. As noted in the President's 
previous budget requests: ``Groundwater from shallow alluvial aquifers 
... for the municipal systems . . . is generally poor with 
concentrations of iron, manganese, sodium, sulfates, bicarbonates and 
total dissolved solids above recommended standards.'' This project 
provides a perpetual remedy to historic water quality issues that 
impaired health and stunted economic growth.
    The Project called for the construction of a single treatment plant 
on the Missouri River near Wolf Point, Montana, that will distribute 
water through 3,200 miles of pipeline to both the Reservation Tribal 
system and through three completed and operational interconnections to 
DPRWS. A single water source on the Missouri River replaced nearly two 
dozen individual community water sources and ensured a clean, 
plentiful, and safe water supply.
    The Federal legislation authorizing the Fort Peck Reservation Rural 
Water System requires that the OMR costs of ASRWSS, held in trust by 
the United States, are fully funded. Interior appropriations to BIA are 
the Federal source of OMR funding. This is consistent with the Federal 
trust responsibility to the Tribes who were promised a permanent home 
when the Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes agreed to move to the 
Reservation. A permanent home requires safe drinking water. The funding 
request enables ASRWSS to deliver superior drinking water, meeting all 
Federal and State standards, to all the people, towns, and federal, 
Tribal, State, public and private agencies, and businesses.
    Thus, the $5,248,000 requested in FY 2025 for the OMR of this vital 
infrastructure project is critical. The increased funding of $1,803,000 
over the FY 2024 level for the OMR of the Project is needed as the 
Project buildout increases the service population and requires 
additional personnel, power, chemicals, repairs, replacements, and 
improvements to operate the water treatment plant and other facilities.
    We thank the subcommittee for the continued support of OMR funding 
for ASRWSS as authorized by PL 106-382.

    [This statement was submitted by Ashleigh Weeks, Project Manager 
Assiniboine and Sioux Rural Water Supply System.]
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Prepared Statement of the Association of Air Pollution Control Agencies
    The Association of Air Pollution Control Agencies (AAPCA) \1\ 
appreciates the opportunity to provide feedback on Fiscal Year (FY) 
2025 appropriations for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), 
including State and Local Air Quality Management Grants under the State 
and Tribal Assistance Grant (STAG) program. AAPCA's State and local air 
agency members are co-regulators with U.S. EPA, responsible for 
implementing Federal Clean Air Act (CAA) rules in their 
jurisdictions.\2\ Funding directed to air agencies--including State and 
Local Air Quality Management Grants under CAA Sections 103 and 105--
must be adequate for historic CAA obligations as well as the mounting 
number of significant and substantive regulatory actions \3\ from U.S. 
EPA that will further exacerbate existing resource constraints. AAPCA's 
State and local air agency members consider sufficient, stable 
resources to be critical to performing core CAA activities.
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    \1\ AAPCA is a national, non-profit, consensus-driven organization 
focused on assisting State and local air quality agencies and personnel 
with implementation and technical issues associated with the Federal 
Clean Air Act. Created in 2012, AAPCA represents 51 State and local air 
pollution control agencies, and senior officials from 21 state 
environmental agencies currently sit on the AAPCA Board of Directors. 
AAPCA is housed in Lexington, Kentucky as an affiliate of The Council 
of State Governments. More about AAPCA is at: www.cleanairact.org.
    \2\ AAPCA, State Air Trends & Successes: The StATS Report, May 
2024.
    \3\ U.S. EPA's Office of Air and Radiation lists 84 short- and 
long-term regulatory actions in the Fall 2023 Unified Agenda of 
Regulatory and Deregulatory Actions.
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    Congress provided a total of $4.418 billion for STAG in the 
Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2024 (H.R. 4366), which was signed 
into law on March 9, 2024.\4\ Approximately $61.5 million below the FY 
2023 enacted level, Congress departed from a formerly steady trend of 
annual increases directed to State, local, and Tribal environmental 
agencies through STAG. State and Local Air Quality Management Grants 
under the STAG program--which provide important support to air agencies 
charged with protecting air quality and public health--have been 
subject to stagnant funding levels for more than a decade. Virtually no 
change was seen in enacted funding levels from FY 2014 through FY 2020; 
incremental increases from FY 2021 through FY 2023 brought the 
appropriated amount to almost 11 percent above FY 2013 levels; and FY 
2024 enacted funding levels are only 3 percent higher than they were a 
decade ago. Table 1 includes the enacted State and Local Air Quality 
Management Grants for FY 2014--FY 2024.
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    \4\ H.R. 4366--Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024 (Public Law 
118-42). Including rescission of funds.

                 Table 1. FY 2014--FY 2024 Enacted State and Local Air Quality Management Grants
 
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                                                                    State & Local Air Quality Management Grants
                           Fiscal Year                                               (enacted)
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FY 2024..........................................................                               $235.922 million
FY 2023..........................................................                               $249.038 million
FY 2022..........................................................                               $231.391 million
FY 2021..........................................................                               $229.500 million
FY 2020..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2019..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2018..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2017..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2016..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2015..........................................................                               $228.219 million
FY 2014..........................................................                               $228.219 million
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    In fact, most STAG funding for programs implemented by State, 
local, and Tribal air pollution control agencies saw a decrease or no 
change for FY 2024 compared to the FY 2023 enacted levels, including:

  --$90 million for diesel emissions (DERA) grants ($10 million below 
        FY 2023 enacted);

  --$67.8 million for targeted airshed grants ($2.127 million below FY 
        2023 enacted);

  --$7 million for wildfire smoke preparedness (equal to FY 2023 
        enacted); and

  --$1.106 billion for categorical grants ($54.292 million below FY 
        2023 enacted), including:

    --$235.922 million for State and local air quality management 
            grants ($13.116 million below FY 2023 enacted);

    --$16.3 million for Tribal air quality management ($115,000 below 
            FY 2023 enacted); and

    --No funding for multipurpose grants (no change from FY 2023 
            funding levels).\5\
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    \5\ See STAG funding tables included in the Interior, Environment, 
& Related Agencies Explanatory Statement (pg. 218-221).

    Contrary to lapses in appropriations, there has been a significant 
increase in the technically complex and resource-intensive work for 
agencies with delegated CAA authority, and increased funding is 
essential to meet the growing complexities of implementing air 
pollution control programs. This is clearly indicated in U.S. EPA's FY 
2025 Justification of Appropriation Estimates for the Committee on 
Appropriations for the FY 2025 President's Budget, which States:
    The budget includes $1.465 billion for categorical grants, to 
directly support Tribal, State, and local partners. This represents an 
increase of $304.5 million above the FY 2024 [Annualized Continuing 
Resolution (ACR)] level to support our co-implementing partners in 
managing rising costs and advancing progress across core environmental 
programs. Of the total request, [$400.198] million will support the 
State and Local Air Quality Management Grants, an increase of $151.2 
million above the FY 2024 ACR level.\6\
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    \6\ U.S. EPA, FY 2025 Justification of Appropriation Estimates for 
the Committee on Appropriations, March 2024 (pg.18). See also U.S. 
EPA's ``FY 2025 EPA Budget in Brief'' (pg. 109).
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    These grants provide funding which State and local air agencies use 
judiciously by strategically deploying resources, creating efficient 
programing and best practices, and relying on leadership and staff that 
are dedicated public servants. For the prevention and control of air 
pollution, agencies with delegated CAA authority:

  --Develop and update state implementation plans (SIPs) to attain/
        maintain National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) and 
        improve visibility under the Regional Haze Program;

  --Serve as the Nation's primary air quality monitoring entities, 
        manage emissions inventories, and perform photochemical and air 
        dispersion modeling;

  --Implement Federal rules and standards for hazardous air pollutants, 
        including case-by-case maximum achievable control technology 
        (MACT) determinations;

  --Review, issue, and enforce air quality permits for a range of 
        sources, from small businesses to industrial and commercial 
        facilities;

  --Ensure facility compliance through inspection and enforcement 
        oversight, including conducting more than 15,800 Full 
        Compliance Evaluations (FCE) in 2023, compared to about 200 
        FCEs conducted by U.S. EPA \7\;
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    \7\ U.S. EPA, Analyze Trends: State Air Dashboard. U.S. EPA defines 
an FCE as ``a comprehensive evaluation of the compliance status of the 
facility. It looks for all regulated pollutants at all regulated 
emission units, and it addresses the compliance status of each unit, as 
well as the facility's continuing ability to maintain compliance at 
each emission unit.'' Data accessed May 20, 2024.

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  --Hire, train, and retain qualified staff; and,

  --Lead public outreach and information campaigns, including 
        forecasting air quality, responding to complaints, and 
        conducting stakeholder engagement.

    State and local air agencies have led these efforts and continued 
to improve the Nation's air quality \8\ while administering 
progressively complicated and demanding operations that have had to 
accommodate growing inflation in expenses related to personnel, travel, 
equipment and building costs for monitoring sites. Budgetary challenges 
have also been compounded by the achievements of air pollution control 
agencies, as fees collected on a per-ton basis from major sources 
through the CAA Title V Operating Permit program have substantially 
decreased in revenue as the program meets its primary goal: driving 
emissions down to create better air quality.
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    \8\ U.S. EPA, Air Quality--National Summary. See also: U.S. EPA, 
Our Nation's Air: Trends Through 2022, June 2023.
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    The Administration's latest regulatory agenda indicated there were 
52 forthcoming regulatory actions from U.S. EPA's Office of Air and 
Radiation (OAR).\9\ Of these, 63 percent (33) are expected to be 
completed by the end of the 2024 Federal fiscal year, including 9 
major/economically significant regulations. Once finalized by U.S. EPA, 
State and local air agencies will be (or are already) at the forefront 
of implementation and planning for many of these rules. Apart from 
adopting and implementing these regulations, State and local air 
agencies will be responsible for associated permitting changes and 
engagement with communities, regulated industries, and other 
stakeholders in their jurisdictions. Of concern, State and local 
agencies have indicated difficulties hiring and retaining a qualified, 
technical, and experienced workforce to meet the growing complexities 
of air pollution control work.\10\ Current funding levels coupled with 
other resource constraints and expanding CAA obligations, make meeting 
core CAA responsibilities even more challenging.
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    \9\ Fall 2023 Unified Agenda of Regulatory and Deregulatory 
Actions, released December 6, 2023. Excluding long- term actions.
    \10\ AAPCA, ``Staffing at State and Local Air Pollution Control 
Agencies,'' November 2023.
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    From their on-the-ground expertise, State and local agencies 
understand that melding national environmental regulations with local 
priorities, economic strategies, and social needs requires significant 
resources. Increased funding for State and Local Air Quality Management 
Grants that adequately accounts for new and historic CAA mandates and 
increased responsibilities already imposed
    is critical for State and local air agency budgets as well as 
ensuring the cooperative federalism balance needed for successful 
environmental outcomes. Providing maximum flexibility in air agency 
grants enables programs to determine the best use for addressing air 
pollution control needs in their jurisdiction. Additional 
considerations that may affect State and local resources include how 
U.S. EPA alters the regional and state allocation formula for State and 
Local Air Quality Management Grants as well as maintaining funding for 
PM2.5 monitoring under CAA Section 103, rather than Section 105.\11\
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    \11\ U.S. EPA's FY2023 and 2024 National Program Manager Guidance 
Monitoring Appendix States: ``Per appropriation language since the 
beginning of the PM2.5 monitoring program, EPA intends to continue to 
make grants available under Sec. 103 of the Clean Air Act to support 
PM2.5 monitoring activities. Should this appropriation language change, 
EPA will revisit this issue.''
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    Thank you for your attention to this letter. AAPCA's State and 
local air agency members appreciate the recognition of your Committee 
in recent funding legislation and look forward to working with you as 
Congress develops its priorities for FY 2025 appropriations for U.S. 
EPA. If you have any questions, please contact Ms. Morgan Dickie, 
Interim Executive Director, at mdickie@csg.org or (859) 244-8042.

    [This statement was submitted by E. Morgan Dickie, Interim 
Executive Director, AAPCA.]
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     Prepared Statement of Association of California Water Agencies
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to provide outside witness testimony on 
the Fiscal Year 2025 Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
appropriations bill. This testimony is submitted on behalf of the 
Association of California Water Agencies (ACWA). ACWA is the largest 
statewide coalition of public water agencies in the country. Our more 
than 470 public agency members collectively are responsible for 90 
percent of the water delivered to communities, farms, and businesses in 
California.
                 environmental protection agency (epa)
    We respectfully request the subcommittee provide $2.75 billion for 
the EPA's Clean Water State Revolving Fund (CWSRF) and $2.75 billion 
for the Environmental Protection Agency's Drinking Water State 
Revolving Fund (DWSRF). The CWSRF is a vital program that finances 
infrastructure for public wastewater systems to improve water quality. 
The DWSRF is a highly successful program that helps publicly owned 
water systems invest in drinking water infrastructure and comply with 
Federal Safe Drinking Water Act requirements. Every state in the Nation 
benefits from CWSRF and DWSRF programs. Unfortunately, the 
Administration's request of $1.239 billion for the CWSRF program, and 
$1.126 billion for the DWSRF program is not sufficient to meet the 
demand for these highly successful programs.
    In addition, we respectfully encourage the subcommittee to allocate 
$100 million to the EPA Water Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act 
(WIFIA), this is $20 million above the Administration's budget request. 
Over the last 10 years the WIFIA program has become a important tool 
for investing in water infrastructure. The innovative program leverages 
public and private dollars. To date the program has provided $19 
billion in credit assistance which has helped finance over $43 billion 
in water infrastructure projects.
    An investment in water infrastructure is an investment in our 
Nation, its future, and its economy. Water infrastructure funding is a 
powerful economic driver and provides significant return on investment. 
Funding water infrastructure is not only a sound economic decision, but 
also an essential investment in the health of every American. We 
appreciate the subcommittee's efforts to invest in our Nation's water 
infrastructure.
                       department of the interior
    We also respectfully request the subcommittee provide at least $1.6 
billion for the Department of the Interior (DOI) Wildland Fire 
Management Program. This reflects an increase of approximately 14.4 
percent over the fiscal year 2024 Annualized Continuing Resolution and 
is consistent with the President's budget request. Funding for the DOI 
Wildland Fire Management program will help improve forest health across 
DOI lands benefiting millions of Americans. This funding will help 
protect communities, improve forest and watershed health, and 
importantly provide increased pay for the wildland firefighters that 
are on the front lines protecting communities.
    The Federal Government owns approximately 45 million acres of land 
in California making up over 45 percent of California's total land 
mass. Only two States, Alaska and Nevada, have more Federal land inside 
their boundaries than California. The management of Federal lands is 
critically important to ACWA's members as we work to provide safe, 
reliable, and affordable water to tens of millions of Americans in 
California.
    The management of Federal forested lands is especially important 
because healthy forests are necessary to ensure healthy watersheds. 
Years of drought combined with a significant increase in tree mortality 
have degraded forest health and increased the risk of catastrophic 
wildfire in vital headwater areas. ACWA's members and the State of 
California regularly partner with Federal agencies in efforts to 
address forest health needs. The DOI, which manages over 22 million 
acres of land in California, is an especially important partner in this 
effort. Providing robust funding for the DOI Wildland Fire Management 
Program will benefit communities in California and throughout the 
United Sates.
    Thank you very much for considering our perspective and please let 
us know if we can provide any additional information.

    [This statement was submitted by Ian Lyle, Director of Federal 
Relations, Association of California Water Agencies.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit recommendations for Fiscal 
Year 2025 (FY25) Congressional appropriations. The Association of Fish 
and Wildlife Agencies' (AFWA) mission, since our founding in 1902, is 
to protect and enable state fish and wildlife agencies (States) to 
exercise their statutory authority to conserve and manage the fish and 
wildlife within their borders. All 50 States, the District of Columbia, 
Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands are members.
    Further, we support and endorse appropriations recommendations that 
are submitted by regional associations of fish and wildlife agencies. 
While we offer justifications for our highest priority recommendations 
in the narrative for this testimony, please refer to table 1.1 provided 
on pages 3-4 for the remainder of our recommendations, for which we 
would be glad to provide further information.
             united states fish and wildlife service (fws)
    Aquatic Habitat, Assessments, Restoration, and Species 
Conservation--We support no less than (NLT) funding at FY23 levels for 
Fish and Aquatic Conservation and support the FWS' FY25 budget request 
of $7.6 million for the National Fish Habitat Action Plan (NFHP), which 
includes funding for the NFHP grant program and $400,000 for the FWS to 
provide scientific and technical assistance support to the program. 
Further, we respectfully request full funding for the USGS, USFS, EPA, 
and NOAA to provide scientific and technical assistance to the program, 
as well as the inclusion of report language recommending that the USGS, 
USFS, EPA, and NOAA each provide the full authorized level of $400,000 
for scientific and technical assistance for the NFHP as authorized 
under Public Law 116-188. With full funding at congressionally 
authorized levels, this would ensure the NFHP's continued ability to 
advance aquatic conservation projects that benefit all Americans. 
National Fish Hatchery Systems (NFHS) Operations is a high priority, 
and we recommend no less than FY23 funding levels.
    State and Tribal Wildlife Grants and Partnership Grants--The State 
and Tribal Wildlife Grants program is the only Federal program 
available to States to leverage non-federal funds to conserve over 
12,000 state Species of Greatest Conservation Need (SGCN) identified in 
congressionally-required State Wildlife Action Plans to prevent them 
from becoming threatened or endangered. Funding for the State and 
Tribal Wildlife Grant program was cut by 2% in FY24, has been 
relatively flat since FY21, and remains 20% below FY10 funding levels
    As costs rise due to inflation, state, territorial, and Tribal fish 
and wildlife agencies are seeing an erosion in their ability to 
proactively conserve rare and declining fish and wildlife which is 
critical to the prevention and recovery of endangered species. This 
investment in voluntary, proactive, and state-led conservation is 
needed now to accelerate conservation of declining species to preclude 
an increase in Federal expenditures in the future under the Endangered 
Species Act (ESA). AFWA recommends the highest possible funding for the 
State and Tribal Wildlife Grants Program in FY25 and supports enactment 
of legislation consistent with the Recovering America's Wildlife Act as 
introduced in the 117th Congress.
    AFWA also recommends NLT $60 million for the North American 
Wetlands Conservation Fund to conserve vital wetlands and other 
habitats important to migratory birds and other wildlife. Since 1991, 
the NAWCA program has been a highly popular and successful conservation 
effort that protects and restores wetlands and associated habitats. It 
has leveraged more than $4 billion to benefit more than 31 million 
acres from 3,200 projects in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, contributing to 
the long-term recovery of many wetland-dependent birds. We also 
recommend full funding at $15 million for the Grant Program for Losses 
of Livestock Due to Federally Protected Species, as authorized by 
Public Law 116-188.
    Science Applications--USFWS' Science Applications (SA) program has 
evolved into an important collaborator with state fish and wildlife 
agencies, and we request NLT $55M for SA in FY25, including $27.274 
million for Science Partnerships. SA provides science, landscape 
design, and coordination capacity for the co-development of regional 
conservation blueprints and provides support for regional fish and 
wildlife association landscape conservation collaboratives. This work 
is improving the efficiency and effectiveness of State-based fish and 
wildlife conservation by facilitating work at landscape scales. SA also 
supports other state priorities including revision of State Wildlife 
Action Plans, at-risk species conservation, grassland and pollinator 
conservation, climate adaptation, and One Health. Chronic Wasting 
Disease (CWD) is a critical focus for Science Support, and we request 
robust funding for USFWS to fulfill CWD responsibilities, including 
implementation of the Interstate Action Plan, prioritized research, 
monitoring, and studies of CWD in wild, free-ranging deer species.
    Migratory Bird Management (MBM)--We support robust funding for MBM, 
including funding for Conservation and Monitoring at NLT $53 million. 
This element provides critical conservation needs for the Program, 
including by supporting partnerships, working groups, and bird 
conservation planning efforts. This element also supports key needs for 
population monitoring and surveys, research, technical assistance and 
guidance, species conflict reduction. We recommend funding of the 
Migratory Bird Joint Ventures at $25 million. The network of Migratory 
Bird Joint Ventures provides highly valuable partnerships that bring 
together stakeholders to focus on landscape-level bird conservation 
delivery. Since 1986, partners have invested more than $4.5 billion in 
conserving 27 million acres to benefit birds and people.
    To help meet the Program's responsibilities for permitting, 
including under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Bald and Golden Eagle 
Protection Act, at least $13.3 million is needed for staff capacity for 
the Permits element, along with further support for the ePermits 
program, to help promote efficient, modernized, and coordinated 
permitting efforts, including to address incidental take. We also 
recommend NLT $1.12 million for the Duck Stamp program, which has 
raised more than $1 billion in funding since its inception, which has 
been invested back into wetland habitat conservation to benefit the 
National Wildlife Refuge System and the birds it supports.
                 united states geologial survey (usgs)
    Ecosystems--We respectfully request no less than $36 million for 
the Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit Program (CRU) in FY24. 
This request is a step towards ensuring the program has more of the 
funding it needs to robustly implement its mission in support of 
partners and their fish and wildlife science needs. Additional funds 
would enable USGS to address vacancies across the units and address the 
safety equipment and training backlog. The core of the CRU program are 
the staff scientists. Each unit typically has 3 scientists, and there 
are >120 scientist positions across the program. Funds are needed to 
account for growth in existing staff salaries, fill existing and 
anticipated vacancies, and fill positions at newly established units to 
fulfil Federal commitments to cooperators. We support the National 
Cooperators' Coalition's testimony on CRUs.
    BUREAU OF LAND MANAGMENT (BLM)--AFWA supports the administration's 
request of $170.9 million for the BLM's Wild Horse and Burro (WHB) 
Program but recognizes that the need is much higher and recommends 
restoring BLM's authority for sale and transfer of WHB. BLM estimates 
there are over 73,500 WHB across habitats with a total appropriate 
management level of less than 27,000. The harm inflicted on public 
lands from excess wild horses and burros compounds yearly as on-range 
population growth rates and off-range holding costs outstrip the BLM's 
ability to manage herds. Further, there are 62,000 horses and burros in 
off-range holding facilities at a taxpayer expense exceeding $100 
million annually.
    UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE (USFS)--AFWA recommends that USFS 
begin to receive dedicated funding for WHB management within a newly 
specified line-item, as funds are currently reallocated internally from 
other budgets. While USFS is responsible for 20% of the Nation's WHB, 
we understand that a gradual ramp-up in funds will be necessary but 
encourage that the 80/20 ratio eventually be reflected for WHB 
appropriations across BLM and USFS.

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                                                                 Klamath Basin/
                                                                 Chesapeake Bay/
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                                                                Aquatic Animal Drug                        $1.2M
                                                                 Approval Partnership.
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                                                                 Fish Technology
                                                                 Centers/Wild Fish
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                                                                 Marking Program.
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                                                                 Northwest Mass Marking
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                                                                 Management Plan
                                                                 Implementation.
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                                                                 Invasive Carp           of FY21 report language
                                                                 Management/Control
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                                                                Sage Grouse/Rangeland                  Increased
                                                                 Improvement/Bighorn
                                                                 Sheep Disease
                                                                 Prevention.
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                                                                 Management--Combat
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OSMRE                                  Abandoned Mine Reclamation Fund                                    Robust
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                                                                 Research Program.
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    [This statement was submitted by Ronald J. Regan, Executive 
Director.]
                                 ______
                                 
      Prepared Statement of the Association of Zoos and Aquariums
    Thank you Chairman Merkley and Ranking Member Murkowski for the 
opportunity to submit testimony about the priorities of the Association 
of Zoos and Aquariums for Fiscal Year 2025. My name is Dan Ashe, and I 
am the President and CEO of the Association of Zoos and Aquariums 
(AZA). Founded in 1924, the AZA is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization 
dedicated to ensuring that our more than 250 accredited zoos and 
aquariums reflect the global standard of excellence in animal care and 
welfare, conservation, education, science, and guest experience. AZA's 
member facilities are examples of how economic and environmental 
prosperity can work hand-in-hand. Our members welcome nearly 200 
million visitors annually, generating more than $22 billion in economic 
activity, and supporting more than 198,000 jobs across the country. 
They also contribute well over $250 million in direct support for field 
conservation each year. They support work in 119 countries benefiting 
more than 998 species and subspecies, of which 232 are listed under the 
Endangered Species Act (ESA).
    At the heart of AZA is its mandatory accreditation requirement, 
which assures that only those zoos and aquariums--like Oregon Zoo--that 
are committed to meeting the world's highest standards can become 
members. The independent and objective AZA accreditation process 
includes self-evaluation, rigorous on-site inspection, and critical 
peer review. Our standards are publicly available and are continuously 
evolving and improving as we learn more about the needs of the animals 
in our care. Once earned, AZA accreditation confers best-in-class 
status, an important message for local, State, and Federal Governments 
and the visiting public. All AZA members are accredited every 5 years, 
ensuring that AZA members continue to grow as standards improve. AZA 
accreditation is the global gold standard for modern zoological 
facilities.
    AZA and its members are leaders, partners, and participants in 
species conservation. We work in concert with Congress, the Federal 
agencies, conservation organizations, State governments, the private 
sector, and the general public to conserve our wildlife heritage. AZA's 
Wildlife Trafficking Alliance is a coalition of private companies, non-
profit organizations, and AZA-accredited zoos and aquariums working 
closely with U.S. government agencies to combat wildlife trafficking 
worldwide. AZA and its member facilities have long-standing 
partnerships with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), National 
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and the U.S. Department 
of Agriculture (USDA). Our collaborative efforts have focused on:

  --Engaging in endangered species recovery and reintroduction, 
        including some of the most successful and heralded recovery 
        efforts, such as California condor, black-footed ferret, 
        Florida manatee, and southern sea otter;

  --Carrying out rescue, rehabilitation, and confiscation of tens of 
        thousands of animals in collaboration with Federal and State 
        agencies, including USFWS, to the benefit of many threatened 
        and endangered species;

  --Supporting conservation domestically and internationally through 
        multinational species conservation funds and state wildlife 
        grants; and

  --Partnering with USFWS, the National Park Service and others on 
        migratory birds, freshwater and saltwater fisheries, national 
        marine sanctuaries, illegal wildlife trade, amphibians, and 
        invasive species.

    I am submitting testimony in support of the following key programs 
funded through the annual Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
appropriations bill.
                 u.s. fish and wildlife service budget
    The 198,000 jobs and $22 billion in economic contributions, as well 
as the vital conservation work supported by AZA-accredited facilities 
depends on adequate USFWS staff levels. During the past several years, 
lengthy permitting delays have become the rule, rather than the 
exception. Often, these delays put the welfare of animals and crucial 
conservation projects at jeopardy. They are a serious hinderance to 
AZA's science-based conservation breeding programs that require animals 
to be moved in an efficient, humane, and timely manner. This is 
particularly acute and serious within the International Affairs program 
(Management and Scientific Authorities). AZA members are keenly 
interested in expanding their critical work in support of rescue, 
rehabilitation, and reintroduction of threatened and endangered 
species, care and placement of live confiscated wildlife seized at 
ports and borders, and on scientific and conservation research on 
species like polar bears in AZA facilities. The success of these 
important initiatives depends on much improved permitting from USFWS.
    For this reason, we request $31 million in Fiscal Year 2025 for the 
International Affairs program at USFWS. We also ask that the 
subcommittee include specific direction for the Management and 
Scientific Authority to enter into a Memorandum of Agreement, and hire 
and support a dedicated and qualified employee to facilitate zoo and 
aquarium permitting.
    We also request $110.8 million in Fiscal Year 2025 for the Office 
of Law Enforcement. As we battle the global epidemic of wildlife 
trafficking, and as the USFWS continues to improve detection and 
interruption of trafficking routes and syndicates, confiscated animals 
are the casualties. They are the unfortunate refugees from this crisis 
and need to be placed, and often held for lengthy periods, as evidence. 
Their care often requires very specialized and expensive expertise.
    Increasingly, USFWS looks to AZA and its members for this 
assistance. In response to this need, AZA has partnered with USFWS to 
launch the Wildlife Confiscations Network, a new conservation 
initiative to create a coalition of reputable and trusted animal care 
facilities with capacity to provide immediate medical care and housing 
for wildlife that are trafficked through U.S. ports of entry. The 
Wildlife Confiscations Network currently operates as a pilot project in 
Southern California. Expanding the Wildlife Confiscations Network 
nationwide will allow wildlife law enforcement across the country to 
concentrate on their core functions: the investigation and prosecution 
of criminals.
       endangered species recovery and recovery challenge grants
    We express our gratitude for the subcommittee's continued support 
for endangered species through the Recovery account and working with 
our partners at USFWS to create the Endangered Species Recovery 
Challenge Grant program in Fiscal Year 2018. This program recognizes 
the critically important role of nonprofit partners to the Service's 
endangered species recovery efforts, and it is a mechanism, through 
merit-based matching grants, to provide funding in a more commensurate 
manner to support and enhance these efforts. Recovery Challenge Grants 
are limited to nonprofit organizations implementing the highest 
priority recovery actions identified in recovery plans, such as for 
genetically sound breeding, rearing, and reintroduction programs.
    We urge you to continue to provide robust funding for endangered 
species recovery and prioritize longstanding recovery efforts in which 
existing resources and partner expertise can be most effectively 
leveraged. Specifically, we are requesting an increase in funding for 
the Recovery Challenge Grant program to at least $12 million in Fiscal 
Year 2025. This funding will power recovery partnerships and inspire 
their work to better recover critically endangered species.
    Additionally, we urge you to provide at least level funding of $2.3 
million in Fiscal Year 2025 for the John H. Prescott Marine Mammal 
Rescue and Response Grant Program. With increasing numbers of marine 
mammal strandings, the Prescott Program provides competitive grants to 
support the rescue and rehabilitation of marine mammals.
                multinational species conservation funds
    AZA supports the inclusion of $30 million for the Multinational 
Species Conservation Funds (MSCF) administered by USFWS. These programs 
support public-private partnerships that conserve wild tigers, Asian 
and African elephants, rhinos, great apes, freshwater turtles, 
tortoises, and marine turtles in their native habitats. Through the 
MSCF programs, the United States supplements the efforts of developing 
countries that are struggling to balance the needs of their human 
populations and endemic wildlife. These programs help to sustain 
wildlife populations, address threats such as poaching and illegal 
trade, reduce human-wildlife conflict, and protect essential habitat. 
USFWS is seen as a global conservation leader in large part due to its 
commitment to international conservation efforts. This Federal program 
supports AZA-accredited facilities in their field conservation efforts 
and partnerships with USFWS.
                         endangered species act
    AZA and its members enthusiastically support the ESA, which has 
saved hundreds of listed species from extinction. Like AZA 
accreditation, the ESA is the global ``gold standard.'' It reflects our 
National commitment to species and ecosystem conservation, and it is 
working. Since its inception in 1973, it has prevented the extinction 
of 99% of the species it protects. However, we know that the challenges 
facing our planet in the 21st century are as complex as they are 
urgent. Scientists estimate that the total number of mammals, birds, 
reptiles, amphibians, and fish has declined by more than 50% since 
1970, and many believe, including me, that we are living amidst the 
planet's sixth mass extinction. Climate change is accelerating this 
crisis. Without critical intervention today, we are facing the very 
real possibility of losing some of our planet's most magnificent 
creatures such as lions, cheetahs, elephants, gorillas, sea turtles, 
and sharks.
    AZA-accredited facilities have a unique opportunity and 
responsibility to help others understand this crisis. It is our 
obligation--to these animals and to all life on earth--to take bold 
action now to protect our planet's biodiversity. One achievement that 
has gone unnoticed by most people is that zoos and aquariums have 
played a significant role in bringing over 25 species, including 
California condor, Florida manatee, and black-footed ferret, back from 
the brink of extinction.
    Although we have made significant progress in saving endangered 
species, this work is far from done. Species protection and 
conservation requires long-term commitment by all of us. It is through 
the ongoing work related to species recovery plans that we will 
conserve these species for future generations. The AZA and its members 
support the ESA, and we encourage you to assure that the agencies 
responsible for carrying out the mandates of the act receive the 
necessary funding and human resource capacity to succeed.
    AZA and its members look forward to continuing to work with this 
subcommittee and Congress to assure that as a nation we are devoting 
the necessary resources to conserve wildlife at home and globally.
Thank you.

    [This statement was submitted by Dan Ashe, President and CEO 
Association of Zoos and Aquariums.]
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          Prepared Statement of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers
    On behalf of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our 
wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, I write in support of robust 
funding levels and critical funding increases for many key programs 
within the fiscal year 2025 Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
Appropriations bill. Programs within your subcommittee directly drive 
important economies related to our Nation's hunting, fishing and 
outdoor recreation industries with millions of Americans annually 
generating $1.1 trillion.
    As we enter the FY2025 appropriations cycle, BHA encourages this 
subcommittee to invest in the natural resource programs within the U.S. 
Department of Interior and the U.S. Forest Service that sustain fish 
and wildlife habitat, drive hunting and fishing opportunities, and 
enhance public access. BHA is motivated to work with you and the 
authorizing committees on identifying strategic funding solutions that 
benefit our public lands and waters for future generations of hunters 
and anglers.
                  doi land and water conservation fund
    BHA strongly supported the passage of the Great American Outdoors 
Act which permanently and fully funded the Land and Water Conservation 
Fund (LWCF). The $900 million floor for LWCF doesn't burden taxpayers 
and in fact expands economic support to rural communities, enhances 
public recreational access, and conserves quality fish and wildlife 
habitats.
    BHA supports the allocation of an additional $450 million in 
discretionary funding to take advantage of the tremendous opportunities 
to leverage funding and prioritize projects with partners in the land 
trust community that would eliminate landlocked public lands currently 
closed to hunters and anglers. We specifically support the use of funds 
to address projects that consolidate fragmented ownership of Federal 
public lands, connect wildlife corridors, enhance recreational access 
in addition to complementing State-based investments in natural 
resource management.
            doi abandoned hardrock mine reclamation funding
    BHA supports funding levels of at least $287 million to be provided 
for the abandoned hardrock mine reclamation program created by Sec. 
40704 of the Infrastructure, Investment, and Jobs Act. It is critical 
that this program receive funding to address the estimated 500,000 
abandoned hardrock mines in the West. According to the Government 
Accountability Office, Federal agencies spent, on average, about $287 
million annually from 2008 through 2017 identifying, cleaning up, and 
monitoring abandoned hardrock mine sites. However, at this rate it 
would still take nearly two centuries to clean up all our Nation's 
abandoned mines which represent the largest single source of pollution 
with 40% of Western headwaters contaminated by mine tailings and 
runoff.
                           blm land resources
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $317 million for the 
Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Land Resources subaccount. This 
subaccount includes funding for BLM's high priority planning efforts 
across more than 247 million acres of land the agency manages, 
including the initiation of new resource management plans, address the 
need for planning updates and amendments, and implementation 
strategies. It is essential to ensure that BLM has the resources 
necessary to integrate the most recent State and Federal fish and 
wildlife science, outdoor recreation needs, and balancing energy 
development and resource extraction uses within the planning process. 
We recommend an additional increase of $5 million that would be 
directed to Resource Management Planning budgets for RMP revisions, 
amendments, and evaluation.
              blm wildlife and aquatic habitat management
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $213 million for the 
BLM Wildlife and Aquatic Habitat Management account. The work conducted 
through this account supports the maintenance, restoration, and 
enhancement of fish, wildlife, and their habitats on BLM administered 
public lands. Important BLM activities such as conducting inventories 
of fish and wildlife resources and developing cooperative management 
plans while providing for responsible recreation and commercial uses 
are critically important for BLM's ongoing work with state fish and 
wildlife agencies and local communities across the West.
                       blm wild horses and burros
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $170 million for the 
BLM's Wild Horse and Burro Program as current funding does not provide 
enough resources for control efforts to outpace population growth 
rates. Additionally, we recommend that funds no longer be borrowed from 
other budget line items to fund the program. The BLM estimates there 
are over 73,000 wild horses and burros across habitats with a total 
appropriate management level of less than 27,000. The harm inflicted on 
public lands from excess wild horses and burros compounds yearly as on-
range population growth rates and off-range holding costs outstrip the 
BLM's ability to manage herds.
                    greater sage-grouse conservation
    BHA supports the removal of the harmful sage-grouse rider that 
compromises the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's (USFWS) ability to 
utilize important conservation tools within the Endangered Species Act 
should populations continue to decline. Greater sage-grouse habitat has 
experienced concerning degrees of fragmentation and degradation across 
the West and new planning from the BLM would build on historic 
collaborative efforts for conservation plans tailored to 11 States 
across nearly 70 million acres of sagebrush steppe. In turn, the 
conservation of sage-grouse habitat will provide direct benefits for 
species such as mule deer, pronghorn, and elk. This rider ties the 
hands of wildlife managers across the country and threatens the 
livelihood of rural communities that depend on sagebrush country for 
economic stability. BHA encourages you to oppose efforts to include any 
limiting sage-grouse rider language in FY25 appropriations bills.
             usfws north american wetlands conservation act
    BHA supports funding the North American Wetlands Conservation Fund 
at its fully authorized amount of $60 million. This one-of-a-kind 
program leverages 1:4 ratio in contributions from nonfederal partners 
to restore migratory birds and other wildlife habitat within FWS 
allocations. To date NAWCA has already conserved more than 30 million 
acres of wetland habitat to the benefit of waterfowl enthusiasts 
nationwide.
         usfws national fish habitat action plan & partnerships
    This USFWS account funds the National Fish Habitat Partnership, a 
coalition of outdoor, hunting, angling, industry, and other 
conservation organizations, that work together to address the loss and 
depletion of fish habitat in critical waterways throughout America. BHA 
supports funding this partnership at its fully authorized amount of 
$7.2 million to further water restoration efforts across our country.
                 usfws national wildlife refuge system
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $602 million for the 
USFWS National Wildlife Refuge System's (NWRS) Operations and 
Maintenance account. Adjusting for inflation, this level of funding is 
necessary to return to the level established for operations more than a 
decade ago. The NWRS currently allows hunting on 436 wildlife refuge 
units and fishing on 378. Additionally, BHA supports the dedication of 
$10 million to complete Comprehensive Conservation Plans, 40% of which 
are outdated despite the requirement by law to be updated every 15 
years.
              usfws partners for fish and wildlife program
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $68 million for the 
Partners for Fish and Wildlife Program. This program that provides 
technical and financial assistance to private landowners and help 
implement critical projects that restore grasslands, wetlands, and 
other habitats important to wildlife species such as grouse, 
canvasbacks, and mule deer.
           usfws neotropical migratory bird conservation fund
    BHA supports continuing funding levels of $5 million for the 
Neotropical Migratory Bird Conservation Fund. This competitive grant 
program benefits more than 3.7 million acres of habitat, promoting 
long-term conservation of neotropical migratory birds through partner-
based conservation and energizing local, on-the-ground conservation 
efforts through their migratory life cycles across North and South 
America.
                  usfws state & tribal wildlife grants
    BHA supports an increase in funding levels to $82 million for USFWS 
State and Tribal Wildlife Grants. This will provide state fish and 
wildlife management agencies the resources they need to continue 
managing and restoring critical habitats for species at risk of 
becoming endangered. In doing so the program facilitates collaboration 
between state, Tribal and Federal interests to invest in conservation 
efforts that prevent more expensive management costs in the future.
                      usfs legacy roads and trails
    BHA supports robust funding for the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) 
Legacy Roads and Trails Program. This will ensure major contributions 
to improve water quality and aquatic habitat while making USFS roads 
and trails more durable through road and trail repair and maintenance, 
necessary road decommissioning, and removal of fish passage barriers. 
This program creates important recreation and conservation jobs across 
the Nation and saves America's taxpayers millions in road maintenance 
costs.
                      usfs wild horses and burros
    BHA supports robust, dedicated funding for Wild Horse and Burro 
management within a newly specified USFS line-item, as funds are 
currently reallocated internally from other budgets. As USFS is 
responsible for 20% of the Nation's wild horses and burros, we 
recommend that the 80/20 ratio is continued for these appropriations 
across BLM and USFS.
    While we understand the need to be fiscally responsible with 
taxpayer dollars, we believe that conservation programs are key 
economic drivers, providing large returns on investment in addition to 
ensuring that America has clean drinking water. Therefore, we ask you 
to support stable, annual funding for our Nation's public land and 
waters to support healthy communities and habitat for fish and 
wildlife.
    Thank you for your consideration of Backcountry Hunters & Angler's 
fiscal year 2025 recommendations for the Interior, Environment, and 
Related Agencies Appropriations bill.

    [This statement was submitted by Kaden McArthur, Government 
Relations Manager, Backcountry Hunters & Anglers.]
                                 ______
                                 
     Prepared Statement of the Bristol Bay Area Health Corporation
                            recommendations
1.Provide full funding and advance appropriations for the Indian Health 
Service (IHS)
2. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country
3. Permanently exempt the IHS from cuts, sequestrations, and 
rescissions
4. Ensure mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and 
section 105(l) leases.
5. Amend Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act 
(ISDEAA) to clarify CSC provisions.
6. Fund Critical Infrastructure investments for the IHS.
7. Increase funding and extend self-governance to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians.
8. Increase funding for behavioral and mental health programs.
    Introduction. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share 
our funding priorities for FY 2025. My name is Robert Clark and I am 
the President/CEO of the Bristol Bay Area Health Corporation (BBAHC). 
BBAHC was created in 1973 to provide health care services to Alaska 
Natives of Southwest Alaska. We began operating and managing the 
Kanakanak Hospital and the Bristol Bay Service Unit for the IHS in 1980 
as the first Tribal organization to do so under ISDEAA. BBAHC is a co-
signer to the Alaska Tribal Health Compact with the IHS under the 
ISDEAA and is now responsible for providing and promoting health care 
to the people of twenty-eight Alaska Native Villages.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
the Indian health system in recent years via the CARES Act, American 
Rescue Plan Act, and Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. The direct funding 
model and successful implementation of these laws prove that when 
Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We would also 
like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to protect 
the IHS from cuts during the 2024 appropriations process. Furthermore, 
we urge you to remember that Congress' trust and treaty responsibility 
to provide for the health and wellbeing of Tribal Nations exists 
irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. It is imperative that 
this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts necessary to fulfill its 
obligations. To that end, I offer the following recommendations for 
your consideration for FY 2025 appropriations for the IHS.
    Provide Full Funding for the Indian Health Service: The IHS and its 
Tribal partners under the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act strive to provide Tribal people with access to high 
quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with the Federal 
Government's trust and treaty obligations. However, chronic 
underfunding of the Indian health system has had detrimental impacts on 
our communities. Alaska Natives are disproportionately affected by 
obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, substance-use disorder and 
other largely preventable conditions. We therefore urge the 
subcommittee to work towards full and mandatory funding for the IHS, in 
line with the IHS Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup.
    The Workgroup has calculated it will take $54 billion to fully-fund 
the IHS. We understand that this represents a dramatic increase in 
funding; however, it is essential that Congress address the true needs 
of the Indian health system. We support their full request and 
reiterate the following four priorities for program expansion as 
follows:

1) Hospitals and Clinics: $13.6 billion
2) Mental Health: $4.5 billion
3) Alcohol & Substance Abuse: $4.9 billion
4) Dental Services: $3.2 billion

    Continued Support for Advance Appropriations for IHS: If full, 
mandatory appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we continue to 
support advance appropriations for the IHS in the short-term. This 
year's tumultuous appropriations cycle clearly demonstrates why advance 
appropriations are critical-IHS clinical services remained continuous 
throughout the volatile political process. We urge the subcommittee to 
extend advance appropriations to all IHS accounts, including Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction for FY 2026.
    Reduce Dependence on Federal Grants: We also support moving away 
from competitive grants for Federal funding mechanisms. Grants unfairly 
pit Tribes and Tribal organizations against each other for resources we 
are all entitled to. The Federal trust responsibility does not require 
that we jump through a myriad of hoops and onerous applications to see 
that services are provided to our people. Too often, Indian County is 
under-resourced to apply for Federal grants and comply with their 
reporting requirements. Our staff must divert time to apply and report, 
thereby diluting the usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request 
wide-spread, formula-based funding across all programs. Tribes and 
Tribal organizations must also be granted the flexibility needed to 
respond to the specific needs of their own communities, not those 
prescribed by Federal grants. This also means appropriating enough 
resources so funds are provided in meaningful amounts across all Tribes 
and Tribal organizations. We join other Tribal leaders in calling for 
broad based funding for Indian Country.
    Permanently Exempt the IHS from Cuts, Sequestrations, and 
Rescissions: As demonstrated above, the Indian health system is 
chronically underfunded, with current appropriations sitting around 
one-seventh of need. Nevertheless, Congress routinely threatens and 
enacts additional budget cuts, sequestrations, and rescissions 
affecting the IHS. As recently as FY 2024, this Congress rescinded $350 
million marked for public health infrastructure from the IHS. 
Furthermore, the IHS is the only federally funded services providing 
direct patient care not exempt from sequestration.
    We remind this subcommittee again that its trust obligations to 
Tribal Nations exist regardless of any self-imposed budget control 
measures. In fact, the IHS budget remains so small in comparison to the 
National budget that cuts, rescissions, and sequestrations do not 
result in any meaningful savings in the National debt, but they do 
devastate Tribes and their citizens. We urge Congress to ensure that 
any budget cuts, whether automatic or explicit, hold the Indian health 
system harmless.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: We appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that 
CSC and section 105(l) lease payments are fully funded. However, these 
line items continue to take up a larger and larger percentage of the 
IHS discretionary budget, thereby leaving little room to expand other 
services given tight budget environment. We strongly agree with the 
subcommittee's words in the explanatory statement for the Further 
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116-94) regarding 
105(l) costs which said, in part: ``Obligations of this nature are 
typically addressed through mandatory spending, but in this case since 
they fall under discretionary spending, they are impacting all other 
programs funded under the Interior and Environment Appropriations bill, 
including other equally important Tribal programs.''
    Therefore, we ask you to continue to advocate with your colleagues 
on authorizing committees to enact mandatory appropriations for CSC and 
105(l) lease costs. Doing so will ensure that other areas of the IHS 
budget are held harmless by these costs and true increases in critical 
services line items can move forward. This will enhance care for Tribal 
patients and reduce health disparities.
    Amend ISDEAA to Clarify CSC provisions. We also request that the 
committee consider amending the ISDEAA to clarify that when agency 
funding paid to a Tribe for program operations is insufficient for 
contract and compact administration, CSC will remain available to cover 
the difference. In the recent court decision Cook Inlet Tribal Council, 
Inc. v. Dotomain,\1\ a Federal appeals court held that costs for 
activities normally carried out by IHS are ineligible for payment as 
CSC-even if IHS transfers insufficient, or even no, funding for these 
activities in the Secretarial amount. Under this new ruling, if 
facility costs are higher for a Tribe or Tribal Health Program than for 
IHS, the former is forced to cover the difference by diverting scarce 
program dollars. Recently, this serious misinterpretation of the ISDEAA 
that has been applied to one Tribal organization resulting in a 90% 
reduction of CSC reimbursement threatens Tribal self-governance and 
self-determination. Therefore, we call upon Congress to provide a 
legislative fix to clarify the intent on Congress for this matter, and 
ensure consistency with precedent.
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    Fully fund critical infrastructure investments: We were 
disappointed to see that this subcommittee approved cuts to Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 2024. The Indian health 
system's infrastructure is among the oldest and most dilapidated in the 
country. This is especially true in Alaska, where more than half of 
homes in thirty-one Alaska Native communities lack proper sanitation 
infrastructure. Additionally, we continue to experience significant 
challenges finding adequate housing for staffing for health 
professionals in our community. As you know, health staffing shortages 
across the Indian health system are dire, and providing adequate living 
spaces for professionals is directly linked with our ability to recruit 
and retain staff.
    Therefore, we request that this subcommittee restore and fully-fund 
these accounts. To implement an interoperable Electronic Health Records 
and telehealth system, $801 million is needed for FY 2025. As you are 
aware, this investment is especially critical as the Veterans' 
Administration and Department of Defense move to modernize their 
systems. It is also critical that Congress make significant investments 
in Health Care Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities 
Construction. IHS and Tribal facilities are severely outdated, and we 
appreciate Congress' investment in IHS sanitation facilities through 
the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Yet, with a multi-billion-dollar 
backlog and growing inflation, funding to close out the list is not 
keeping pace with need. This creates situations where facilities are 
unfit and unsafe. Therefore, consistent with the Workgroup's request, 
we recommend $2.8 billion for Health Care Facilities Construction and 
Equipment and $2.2 billion for Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 
2025.
    Extend Self-Governance Funding Options to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (SDPI) and increase funding to $250 million/year. 
While we understand that SDPI is not under the jurisdiction of the 
subcommittee, we appreciate that Congress included a short-term 
extension of SDPI in FY 2024 appropriations at a $160 million 
annualized rate. We recognize that this is the first increase for SDPI 
in two decades. Communities like ours across Indian Country rely on 
SDPI resources to address the alarming rates of diabetes and diabetes-
related health complications among our people. SDPI's success rests in 
the flexibility of its program structure that allows for the 
incorporation of culture and local needs into its services. Consistent 
with this model, Congress should authorize SDPI participants the option 
of receiving their Federal funds through either a grant (as currently 
used) or self-governance funding mechanisms under ISDEAA.
    Additionally, SDPI has not had a meaningful increase in funding 
since FY 2004 despite its overwhelming success. Short term 
reauthorizations continue to destabilize this program and make staffing 
and program continuity difficult. For this reason, we recommend 
permanent reauthorization for SDPI at a minimum base of $250 million 
per year with annual adjustments for inflationary increases. We urge 
you to work with your Congressional colleagues to enact this important 
priority.
    Behavioral Health: Our community, like all of Indian Country, has 
been devastated by the ongoing fentanyl and opioid epidemic. 
Nevertheless, funds for these services are extremely limited. For 
example, in FY 2024, Congress only appropriated $2 million to fund 
essential detoxification related services. That's less than $1 per IHS 
patient. We urge the subcommittee to dedicate resources to 
detoxification and reemphasize the importance of fully-funding the 
following accounts: Health Care Facilities Construction, Alcohol & 
Substance Use, and Mental Health. We also fully support the President's 
Domestic Supplemental Request, which includes a $250 million investment 
in the IHS to address the fentanyl and opioid epidemic. Recognizing 
that Indian Country cannot wait any longer, Congress should consider 
this request as soon as possible.

    [This statement was submitted by Robert J. Clark, President/CEO of 
Bristol Bay Area Health Corporation.]
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   Prepared Statement of the Business Council for Sustainable Energy
    The Business Council for Sustainable Energy (BCSE) requests funding 
in FY2025 for offices and programs impacting clean energy at the U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Department of Interior 
(DOI) in the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations 
Bill. As a diverse coalition, not all BCSE members endorse or take a 
position on the set of recommended requests.
    BCSE welcomes the opportunity to share information from the 2024 
edition of the Sustainable Energy in America Factbook\1\, published by 
BCSE and BloombergNEF, which shows the growth of renewable energy and 
natural gas in electricity generation, along with a decline in U.S. 
energy consumption due to energy efficiency investments. We encourage 
you to build upon this momentum and success with sustained support for 
clean energy programs at the U.S. Department of Interior and the 
Environmental Protection Agency in FY2025.
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       u.s. environmental protection agency clean energy programs
    As a business group working to advance clean energy policies, BCSE 
has seen firsthand the importance of the Federal role the U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) fills in sharing information 
about new technologies and practices that help speed the adoption of 
clean energy and allow consumers to make more informed decisions about 
energy usage. EPA initiatives help businesses manage environmental 
issues, foster transparency and best practices in emissions and water 
management and develop leadership in environmental stewardship and 
sustainability. The EPA provides transparent, standardized, and 
independent data and expertise that cannot be replicated with the same 
credibility by the private sector or non-governmental organizations.
    BCSE requests funding for EPA programs including the CHP 
Partnership, Green Power Partnership, ENERGY STAR, Natural Gas Star, 
AgStar, Methane Challenge, Center for Corporate Climate Leadership, 
SmartWay Transport Partnership, and more, which embody longstanding 
public-private endeavors that benefit American businesses and help them 
continue to compete on a global scale. These EPA initiatives provide 
market transparency, encourage voluntary action, and identify companies 
that are leaders in businesses and in environmental protection. 
Additionally, the EPA's laboratories lead the world in capabilities 
that make the United States preeminent in research and analysis, 
supporting private sector capabilities to enhance economic growth and 
emissions reductions simultaneously.
    The ENERGY STAR program serves many market sectors and is the 
foundation for energy efficiency programs across the country, from tax 
incentives and utility incentive programs to local building performance 
standards. While it is best known for the blue label on consumer 
products, the ENERGY STAR Portfolio Manager program is also critical 
for tracking and improving the energy performance of our Nation's 
building stock, which accounts for at least one-third of U.S. 
greenhouse gas emissions. ENERGY STAR programs for new homes and 
manufacturing facilities are also growing in popularity and delivering 
increased impact. BCSE and our members support funding for the ENERGY 
STAR program that maintains a fuel neutral approach to energy 
efficiency. The EPA's recent proposal to eliminate certain natural gas 
products from the ENERGY STAR program is worrisome. This goes against 
the fundamental principles of the program and threatens the 
effectiveness of the fuel neutral energy efficiency home rebate program 
(HOMES rebates). The EPA should reiterate the importance of efficient 
natural gas products in the ENERGY STAR program and enable it to 
function as it was intended, in a fuel neutral manner.
    The Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS), which is implemented by the 
Office of Transportation and Air Quality, has enabled the biomass and 
biogas industry to help meet lower carbon energy needs. The EPA has 
finally proposed the framework to enable electricity from biogas to 
qualify for renewable identification number (RIN) generation when 
biogas electricity is used to power electric vehicles. This is a great 
first step, but the program must be expanded to allow all RFS-
qualifying feedstocks to participate in the electricity program. BCSE 
encourages funding for the EPA for the processing of pathways and 
applications to enable biomass and waste-to-energy projects to 
participate in the program at the earliest possible opportunity. 
Electricity derived from renewable biomass and solid forms of biomass 
is currently being used as a transportation fuel and should be credited 
accordingly under the RFS program. Congress should appropriate $1 
million in funding for the EPA to take final action within 90 days on 
any registration application or pathway petition to participate in the 
Renewable Fuels Pathway II Rule.
    The EPA's State and Local Climate and Energy Program offers 
expertise about energy efficiency, renewable energy, and climate change 
policies and programs to interested State, local, and Tribal 
governments. By providing these resources, EPA removes barriers that 
would otherwise prohibit action at the local level due to resource 
constraints or lack of information on best practices. Through its 
programs on renewable energy, renewable natural gas (RNG), natural gas, 
combined heat and power, and energy efficiency, the EPA encourages the 
use of clean, efficient, and market-ready technologies that can lower 
costs and improve resilience in addition to lowering emissions.
    The EPA is also engaged in a variety of international activities to 
advance climate change science, monitor our environment, and promote 
activities that reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The EPA establishes 
partnerships, provides leadership, and shares technical expertise to 
support these activities.
           u.s. department of interior clean energy programs
    The U.S. Department of Interior has a critical role in renewable 
energy production on public lands and waters. BCSE requests funding to 
facilitate this transition to clean energy.
    The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management's (BOEM) Office of Renewable 
Energy Program (OREP) plays a crucial role in the development of 
offshore wind energy. Providing additional resources will help the 
processing of permits for offshore wind projects while allowing the 
Department to conduct additional lease sales and identify new lease 
areas on the Outer Continental Shelf. Funding is needed for the Bureau 
of Safety and Environmental Enforcement (BSEE) to ensure safety while 
deploying offshore wind projects. BCSE also supports funding for the 
Bureau of Land Management renewable energy management program, funding 
for planning and consultation services and staff at the Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS), funding for the National Park Service Historic 
Preservation Fund, and funding for the U.S. Geological Survey program 
to support supply chain research for emerging technologies.
                               conclusion
    BCSE looks forward to working with you throughout the FY2025 budget 
cycle. Please feel free to reach out to Ruth McCormick at 
rmccormick@bcse.org with any questions.
                             about the bcse
    BCSE is a coalition of companies and trade associations from the 
energy efficiency, energy storage, natural gas, renewable energy, 
sustainable transportation, and emerging decarbonization technology 
sectors. It includes independent electric power producers, investor-
owned utilities, public utilities, equipment manufacturers, commercial 
end users, and service providers in energy and environmental markets. 
Founded in 1992, the coalition's diverse business membership is united 
around the revitalization of the U.S. economy and the creation of a 
clean, secure, and reliable energy future in America.
    The Clean Energy Business Network (CEBN), comprising independent 
small- and medium-sized businesses, is an independent affiliate of 
BCSE. Together, BCSE and CEBN encompass a broad range of the clean 
energy economy, from Fortune 100 companies to small businesses working 
in all 50 States and more than 400 Congressional districts. On a 
national basis, these industries support more than 3 million U.S. jobs.

    [This statement was submitted by Lisa Jacobson, President, Business 
Council for Sustainable Energy.]
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       Prepared Statement of Carbon Utilization Research Council
                 summary of curc fy2025 recommendation
    The Carbon Utilization Research Council (``CURC'') is an industry 
coalition focused on technology solutions for the responsible use of 
our fossil energy resources in a balanced, low carbon generation 
portfolio.\1\ CURC recommends $9,000,000 for the Environmental 
Protection Agency's Office of Water Underground Injection Control 
Program.
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    Benefits of Investment in Carbon Management Technologies: 
Deployment of carbon management technologies including carbon capture, 
utilization, and storage (CCUS) will have emissions reductions 
benefits, contribute to a growing economy, and play a critical role in 
the ongoing energy transition. In addition to providing low-carbon, 
dispatchable electricity to load follow intermittent renewables on the 
electric grid, CCUS provides a means to reduce emissions from hard-to-
decarbonize industrial processes including cement production and 
steelmaking and can help to create low- and zero- carbon fuels 
including hydrogen that have a wide variety of applications to 
decarbonize transportation, hard-to-abate industries, and provide long 
term, seasonal storage for the grid.
    Federal Support of CCUS Research, Development & Demonstration 
(RD&D) Programs: In its Net Zero by 2050 report, the International 
Energy Agency (IEA) States government spending needs to be increased 
and reprioritized in critical areas such as decarbonized hydrogen and 
CCUS, which receive less than one-third of the level of public R&D 
funding of the more established low-carbon electricity generation and 
energy efficiency technologies.\2\ IEA also States this is in addition 
to funding support that is also needed to accelerate the roll-out of 
demonstration projects (in the case of the US, this would be funding 
for CCUS included in the Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act (IIJA) 
and the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA)), to leverage private investment 
in R&D, and to boost overall deployment levels to help reduce costs. 
This is because IEA determined that reaching economywide net-zero 
emissions in any scenario is ``virtually impossible'' without CCUS.
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    Federal investment in CCUS RD&D will also substantially benefit 
U.S. economic competitiveness, as the technology will allow us to 
maintain existing jobs and expertise in incumbent industries in 
addition to creating new, high-wage jobs in the energy and 
manufacturing sectors.
    CURC-EPRI Roadmap: CURC and the Electric Power Research Institute 
(EPRI) continuously evaluate technology needs that reflect changing 
markets and policies that impact fossil fuel use in the electric 
sector, which are communicated through an Advanced Technology Roadmap. 
The Roadmap identifies a suite of CCUS technologies that, if 
implemented, can deliver low carbon emission, fossil-fueled power 
plants between 2030-2035 that are cost-competitive with other sources 
of electricity. The Roadmap recommends robust funding for CarbonSAFE 
and ongoing CO2 storage activities for which EPA has responsibility in 
managing injection well permit applications. The recommendations 
provided are guided by those CO2 storage recommendations include in the 
Roadmap.
           curc fy2025 office of water program recommendation
    EPA, Underground Injection Control Program Class VI. CURC 
recommends $9,000,000.
    These funds are necessary to administer and expedite the Agency's 
processing of permit applications for Class VI injection wells, and to 
help develop expertise and capacity at the Agency to process the 
growing number of applications for both state primacy of the program 
and for Class VI applications submitted to EPA.

    [This statement was submitted by Shannon Angielski, Executive 
Director, Carbon Utilization Research Council.]
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    Prepared Statement of the Center for Invasive Species Prevention
    We seek your support for funding two programs of the USDA Forest 
Service that play vital roles in protecting the resilience of the 
Nation's forests in the face of invasive pests.
    We also support $20 million for efforts under State of the Birds 
Activities and associated National Park Service and U.S. Geological 
Survey to protect endangered Hawaiian forest birds

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Research and Development........................          $307.3            $300            $316            $316
    Forest Inventory & Analysis.................           $32.2           $31.5  ..............           $31.5
Forest Health Protection
    Federal lands...............................             $17             $16  ..............             $20
    Cooperative lands...........................             $33             $32  ..............             $35
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    Specifically, we ask that the subcommittee appropriate to the 
Forest Health Management Program (FHM) $20 million for the Federal 
Lands subprogram and $35 million for the Cooperative Lands subprogram. 
Both subprograms must be funded adequately in order to ensure 
continuity of protection efforts--which is the only way they can be 
effective.
    We also ask that the subcommittee adopt report language requiring 
that the USFS begin a phased increase in funding allocated to research 
on invasive species. We seek an allocation of five percent of the 
overall Research Program's budget request by FY27. Invasive species 
imperil forest health independently of increased fire intensity and 
frequency, or climate change. The enhanced research will improve 
understanding of invasive species' invasion pathways and impacts, 
thereby enabling development of effective management strategies.
   background: urban, rural, and wildland forests: indispensable and 
                               threatened
    The many economic and ecological benefits provided by America's 
forests are threatened by a growing number of non-native insects and 
pathogens. About 60% of these forests are owned by States, Tribes, or 
private entities, so the Forest Service must address threats to forests 
outside the National Forest System if it is to achieve its mission of 
sustaining ``the health, diversity, and productivity of the Nation's 
forests and grasslands to meet the needs of present and future 
generations.''
    Non-native pests already undermine these benefits. They threaten 
more than 41% of forest biomass in the ``lower 48'' States.\1\ The loss 
of live biomass is at rates similar to that attributed to fire. The 
majority of these non-native pests attack trees in Eastern forests--the 
very forests that store the majority of forest carbon stocks in the 
U.S.\2\ The non-native pests also destroy unique ecosystems and 
critical watersheds in the upper Midwest, California and Oregon, the 
Appalachians, and western mountain States.\3\ Recently detected pests 
add to the damage. Rapid ?ohi?a death is killing the most widespread 
tree species in Hawai`i, threatening the islands' water supplies. Beech 
leaf disease is killing a numerous and ecologically important tree 
species in the eastern deciduous forest. Oaks on the West coast are 
being killed by sudden oak death, goldspotted oak borer, Kuroshio shot 
hole borer, and the Mediterranean oak borer.
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    \1\ Fei, S., R.S. Morin, C.M. Oswalt, and A.M. 2019. Biomass losses 
resulting from insect and disease invasions in United States forests. 
PNAS August 27, 2019. Vol. 116 No. 35 17371-17376
    \2\ United States Department of Agriculture Forest Service. 2023. 
Future of America's Forests and Rangelands: The Forest Service 2020 
Resource Planning Act Assessment. GTR-WO-102 July 2023
    \3\ Invasive Species in Forests and Grasslands of the United 
States: A Comprehensive Science Synthesis for the United States Forest 
Sector, available here https://www.fs.usda.gov/treesearch/pubs/61982
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    Over the decade 2011--2020, tree mortality was detected on 59 
million acres.\4\ While three-quarters of the area was caused by native 
phloem feeders, especially the mountain pine beetle, nearly 10 million 
acres was lost to primarily non-native wood borers such as the emerald 
ash borer (EAB). Sap feeders such as the hemlock woolly adelgid (HWA) 
killed trees on another 635,000 hectares. The foliage feeders, 
primarily spongy moth, killed trees on 948,000 acres.
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Jacobs, B.D. Moltzan, S.S. Stephens, R.J. Rabaglia. 2023. Evaluating a 
decade (2011-2020) of integrated forest pest management in the United 
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    To counter this crisis the Forest Service must grow its pest-
control efforts substantially. Current funding levels do not allow 
this. We hope the Congress will correct this problem.
  usda forest service forest and rangeland research program: falling 
                                 short
    Currently the Research stations spend just 1% of the total research 
budget studying a few of the dozens of non-native pests. Low funding 
does not allow the Service to develop effective programs to prevent, 
suppress, and eradicate the majority of non-native pests. The funds 
have been decreased 70% since FY2010 even as new pests enter our 
forests.
    The Administration's research priorities--nature-based solutions 
for climate risk reduction, watershed resiliency, forest ecology, and 
forest genetics--cannot be achieved without greater understanding of 
bioinvasion and development of effective mitigation strategies. 
Adequate funding might allow adaptation of successful programs, e.g., 
spongy moth Slow the Spread and Southern Pine Beetle Prevention 
programs, to suppress other pests (see Coleman et al.). Funding 
shortfalls particularly undercut efforts to breed trees able to thrive 
despite introduced pests. The R&D program currently supports only a few 
such projects--for eastern hemlocks, ashes, beech and elms. Even these 
projects require outside funding.
    Therefore, CISP supports the Administration's request to increase 
funding for R&D. We urge allocating 2% of the total R&D budget in FY25 
($6.32 million) to research focused on invasive species. This increase 
would enable the Service to respond to the threats identified by the 
Forest Inventory and Analysis program--which has received additional 
funding in recent years.
    forest health management: supporting the full continuum of pest 
                               management
    Because they arrive on imported goods, non-native pests usually 
first appear in cities or suburbs. The immediate result is enormous 
damage to urban forests and associated ecosystem services. These pests 
then spread to rural forests, including National forests. Examples of 
tree-killing pests that have spread from urban areas to our National 
forests include the hemlock woolly adelgid, emerald ash borer, 
polyphagous and Kuroshio shot hole borers, goldspotted oak borer, and 
sudden oak death.
    Protecting America's forests from these killers begins where they 
are first found--usually in urban or semi-rural forests. The FHM 
Cooperative Lands subprogram assists the States and other partners in 
doing so. Our request for $35 million for work on cooperative lands 
would partially restore missing capacity lost through the 50% cut in 
funding over the past decade.
    Of course, management of the numerous non-native and native pests 
threatening our rural and wildland forests, including National forests. 
CISP supports $20 million for the Federal Lands subprogram to realize 
the full pest management continuum.
    Among projects deserving continued funding are those addressing the 
multiple strains of the sudden oak death pathogen in Oregon and 
California and emerald ash borer-caused mortality of black (or brown) 
ash in the Great Lakes and Northeastern States.
    The number of FHM projects and areas treated each year have shrunk 
since 2011--reflecting cuts in funding. Two-thirds of projects are on 
National Forest lands. Only a small proportion of the trees and areas 
at risk are addressed. Native forest pests are addressed by three 
quarters of projects. While 53 tree taxa are threatened, four--eastern 
oaks, loblolly and ponderosa pines, and hemlocks--are targetted by 95% 
of the projects. Nearly all--84%--of the area treated for non-native 
pests concerns only one--the spongy moth. To address threats to 50 
additional tree taxa under threat, the FHM program needs additional 
resources (Coleman et al.).
          breeding resistant trees: critical--and underfunded
    A critical component of a comprehensive pest-management strategy is 
breeding threatened trees to increase their resistance to non-native 
pests. Perhaps surprisingly, much of the (inadequate) funding is from 
FHM or the National Forest System, rather than the Research account. 
CISP advocates a substantial increase in USFS funding for resistance 
breeding programs.
    The model program is the Dorena Genetic Resource Center. Beginning 
in the 1960s, the Dorena center has bred western white pine seedlings 
resistant to white pine blister rust that are now being planted. A 30-
year effort has produced Port-Orford cedar trees sufficiently resistant 
to its root rot; they are being planted by National forests, the Bureau 
of Land Management, and others.
    Most breeding programs rely on identifying and cross-breeding 
``lingering'' trees--those that survive the pest's onslaught. Promising 
projects target whitebark pine, American chestnut, American elm, and 
Hawaiian koa. Programs at earlier stages address ash, beech, and 
?ohi?a; they are benefitting from the expertise of scientists at the 
Dorena Center.

  --Whitebark pine is listed as threatened under the Endangered Species 
        Act. Under Dorena's breeding program, begun in 2002, resistant 
        seedlings have been planted experimentally.

  --The American Chestnut Cooperators' Foundation (ACCF) has crossed 
        ``lingering'' American chestnuts for several generations. Some 
        are more than 50 years old and producing seeds.

  --American elms were once large, long-lived trees keystone species in 
        riparian forests. Dutch elm disease jeopardizes their ecosystem 
        role. USFS scientists are testing whether planting disease-
        tolerant elms into canopy gaps created by dying ash trees can 
        restore it.

  --Several species of ash trees face functional extinction due to the 
        emerald ash borer invasion. After a decade of effort, 
        scientists have proved that about 1% of green ash trees survive 
        years of heavy EAB attack. Scientists have begun breeding these 
        trees to raise the level of resistance. This phase of the 
        project will require another decade to ensure that the 
        seedlings will have sufficient resistance to thrive in the 
        forest.

    These accomplishments show what Federal dollars, wisely invested, 
can do. CISP is convinced that, with further investment, we can do even 
more to restore threatened trees to our forests.
 u.s. department of interior--state of the birds--protecting hawaiian 
                                 birds
    Funds from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law allowed the Department 
to launch it's Strategy for Preventing the Extinction of Hawaiian 
Forest Birds. The Strategy represents the most promising approaches for 
halting the imminent extinction of all the species of honeycreepers 
still extant on the Islands.
    Most urgent is curtailing spread of two diseases vectored by non-
native mosquitoes. Applying the Incompatible Insect Technique (IIT), 
scientists genetically modify strains of a naturally-occurring 
bacterium carried by the mosquitoes. This alteration makes the 
mosquitoes sterile. Treated mosquitoes must be released each year. 
Scientists are also preparing to translocate two immediately endangered 
species to higher-elevation, mosquito-free, habitats on Hawai`i Island. 
Finally, aviaries are being expanded so that they can house 80 more 
birds.
    Realizing the promise--restoring the bird species--requires 
continued funding through appropriations in FY25 and beyond.

    [This statement was submitted by Faith T. Campbell, President.]
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             Prepared Statement of the Chippewa Cree Tribe
Recommendations:

1. Provide full, mandatory funding for the Indian Health Service (IHS).

2. Ensure mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and 
    section 105(l) leases.

3. Restore critical infrastructure investments for the Indian health 
    system.

4. Increase funding and extend self-governance to the Special Diabetes 
    Program for Indians.

5. Increase funding for behavioral and mental health programs.

6. Fully Fund the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) Public Safety and 
    Justice Account

7. Adequately fund the North Central Regional Water System

8. Action needed to address contamination at a BIA site.

9. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country.

    Introduction: Thank you, Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, 
and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share our 
funding priorities for the FY 2025 Federal budget. My name is Joseph 
Rosette Jr., and I serve as a Business Committee Member of the Chippewa 
Cree Indians of the Rocky Boy's Reservation. Ours is the smallest of 
the seven Indian reservations in Montana. We have a total enrollment of 
6,862, including 4,031 who reside on the Reservation. Our community is 
isolated-the nearest supermarket is in Havre, 30 miles from Rocky Boy, 
and the nearest international airport and major shopping facilities are 
located in Great Falls, 110 miles away.
    In 1993, the Chippewa Cree Tribe was one of the first to achieve 
self-governance under a pilot program that preceded the Tribal Self-
Governance Act of 1994. As a result, our Tribal governing body was able 
to take over administration of all the programs, and their associated 
funds, that were previously under the management of the Federal 
Government. This includes the Rocky Boy Health Center, which is the 
sole health care facility on the Reservation. It provides integrated 
primary health care, including behavioral health and substance use 
services, dental care, and pharmacy access, to all American Indian 
people within the catchment area.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
Indian Country in recent years via the CARES Act, American Rescue Plan 
Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and Inflation Reduction Act. The 
direct funding model and successful implementation of these laws prove 
that when Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We 
would also like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to 
protect Indian Country from cuts during the 2024 appropriations 
process. Furthermore, we urge you to remember that Congress' trust 
responsibility to provide for the health of Tribal Nations exists 
irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. It is imperative that 
this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts necessary to fulfill its 
obligations. To that end, I offer the following recommendations for 
your consideration for FY 2025 appropriations for the IHS and BIA.
    Provide Full Funding for the Indian Health Service: The IHS and its 
Tribal partners under the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act strive to provide Tribal people with access to high 
quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with the Federal 
Government's trust and treaty obligations. However, chronic 
underfunding of the Indian health system has had detrimental impacts on 
our communities. American Indians and Alaska Natives are 
disproportionately impacted by obesity, diabetes, heart disease, 
cancer, substance-use disorder and other largely preventable 
conditions. We therefore urge the subcommittee to work towards full and 
mandatory funding for the IHS, in line with the IHS Tribal Budget 
Formulation Workgroup.
    The Workgroup has calculated it will take $54 billion to fully-fund 
the IHS. We understand that this represents a dramatic increase in 
funding; however, it is essential that Congress address the true needs 
of the Indian health system. We support their full request and 
reiterate the following four priorities for program expansion as 
follows:

    1) Hospitals and Clinics: $13.6 billion

    2) Mental Health: $4.5 billion

    3) Alcohol & Substance Abuse: $4.9 billion

    4) Dental Services: $3.2 billion

    Continue Advance Appropriations for IHS: If mandatory 
appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we support advance 
appropriations in the short-term. This year's tumultuous appropriations 
cycle demonstrates why advance appropriations are critical-IHS clinical 
services remained continuous throughout the volatile political process. 
We urge the subcommittee to extend advance appropriations to all IHS 
accounts, including Electronic Health Records Modernization, Health 
Care Facilities Construction, and Sanitation Facilities Construction 
for FY 2026.
    Fully fund critical infrastructure investments: We were 
disappointed to see that this subcommittee approved cuts to Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 2024. The Indian health 
system's infrastructure is among the oldest and most dilapidated in the 
country. Therefore, we request that this subcommittee restore and 
fully-fund these accounts. To implement an interoperable Electronic 
Health Records and telehealth system, $801 million is needed for FY 
2025. As you are aware, this investment is especially critical as the 
Veterans' Administration and Department of Defense modernize their 
systems. It is also critical that Congress make significant investments 
in Health Care Facilities Construction. IHS and Tribal facilities are 
severely outdated. This creates situations where facilities are unsafe 
or not appropriate for the size of the patient populations they serve. 
Therefore, consistent with the Workgroup's request, we recommend $2.8 
billion for Health Care Facilities Construction and Equipment. We still 
do not have ready access to clean, potable water. This creates 
significant health risks for the Tribal members living on the Rocky Boy 
reservation. We appreciate Congress' investment in IHS sanitation 
facilities through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Yet, with a 
multi-billion-dollar backlog and growing inflation, funding to close 
out the list is not keeping pace with need. We urge Congress to 
prioritize $2.2 billion for Sanitation Facilities Construction.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: We appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that 
CSC and section 105(l) lease payments are fully funded. However, these 
line items continue to take up a larger and larger percentage of the 
IHS discretionary budget, thereby leaving little room to expand other 
services given the tight budget environment. We strongly agree with the 
subcommittee's words in the explanatory statement for the Further 
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116-94) regarding 
105(l) costs which said, in part: ``Obligations of this nature are 
typically addressed through mandatory spending, but in this case since 
they fall under discretionary spending, they are impacting all other 
programs funded under the Interior and Environment Appropriations bill, 
including other equally important Tribal programs.'' Therefore, we ask 
you to continue to advocate with your colleagues on authorizing 
committees to enact mandatory appropriations for CSC and 105(l) lease 
costs. Doing so will ensure that other areas of the IHS budget are held 
harmless by these costs and true increases in critical services line 
items can move forward. This will enhance care for Tribal patients and 
reduce health disparities.
    Extend Self-Governance Funding Options to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (SDPI) and increase funding to $250 million/year: 
While we understand that SDPI is not under the jurisdiction of the 
subcommittee, we appreciate that Congress included a short-term 
extension of SDPI in FY 2024 appropriations at a $160 million 
annualized rate. SDPI's success rests in the flexibility of its 
structure. Consistent with this model, Congress should authorize SDPI 
participants the option of receiving their Federal funds through either 
a grant (as currently used) or self-governance funding mechanisms. 
Additionally, SDPI has not had a meaningful increase in funding since 
FY 2004 despite its overwhelming success. Short term reauthorizations 
continue to destabilize this program and make staffing and program 
continuity difficult. For this reason, we recommend permanent 
reauthorization for SDPI at a minimum base of $250 million per year 
with annual adjustments for inflationary increases. We urge Congress to 
enact this important priority.
    Behavioral Health: Our Tribe, like all of Indian Country, has been 
devastated by the ongoing fentanyl and opioid epidemic. We are in dire 
need of in-community sober living homes and detox centers for our 
Tribal members. In FY 2024, Congress only appropriated $2 million to 
fund essential detoxification related services. That is less than $1 
per IHS patient. We urge the subcommittee to dedicate resources to 
detoxification and reemphasize the importance of fully-funding the 
following accounts: Health Care Facilities Construction, Alcohol & 
Substance Use, and Mental Health. We also fully support the President's 
Domestic Supplemental Request, which includes a $250 million investment 
in the IHS to address the fentanyl and opioid epidemic. Recognizing 
that Indian Country cannot wait any longer, Congress should consider 
this request as soon as possible.
    Public Safety and Justice funding at the BIA: Like many Tribes we 
are seeing a drastic increase in drug trafficking and related crime 
coming onto our lands. There is a significant need for the Federal 
Government to improve law enforcement resources and bring State and 
local authorities to the table with Tribes to address public safety. 
Congress needs to provide additional resources to the BIA for law 
enforcement programs, the U.S. Attorney's Offices, the Federal Bureau 
of Investigation (FBI), and other agencies to help us stem the flow of 
illegal drugs, investigate crimes, and prosecute offenders. The 
underfunding of Tribal law enforcement and justice systems is well-
documented. Earlier this year, the BIA submitted a report to Congress 
required by the Tribal Law and Order Act estimating that to provide a 
minimum base level of service to all federally recognized Tribal 
nations, $1.3 billion is needed for Tribal law enforcement, $1.2 
billion is needed for Tribal courts, and $240.6 million is needed for 
existing detention centers. Based on enacted funding provided in FY 
2024--a total of just over $555 million was provided for BIA PS&J 
programs. This means that Tribal law enforcement, detentions/
corrections, and Tribal courts are funded at a staggeringly low amount 
of less than 20% of estimated need!
    The funding short falls for Tribal law enforcement endangers public 
safety on our reservation and forces us to use Tribal discretionary 
funds which means less resources in other areas and it hamstrings 
future business development. Another complicating factor is that our 
police and detention officers are required to be federally trained, 
however the state of Montana has an excellent officer training program, 
and it would be more efficient financially and logistically to take 
advantage of the Montana Law Enforcement Academy. The BIA needs to 
provide more flexibility in allowing officers to train at state 
academies rather than at the Federal training center in New Mexico, 
which often has a long wait list and requires recruits to spend weeks 
away from their homes and families. In line with recommendations put 
forth by the Tribal Interior Budget Council (TIBC) we urge this 
subcommittee to provide a total of $2.924 billion for BIA Public Safety 
and Justice funding, with approximately $1.77 billion for BIA Law 
Enforcement and $1.155 billion for Tribal courts in FY 2025.
    Rocky Boy's--North Central Regional Water System: The Rocky Boy's/
North Central Montana Regional Water System Project is critical to 
addressing the health impacts of poor water quality on the Rocky Boy's 
Reservation and surrounding off-reservation communities. This Project, 
the construction of which is funded by the Bureau of Reclamation, has 
been ongoing for over 20 years since being authorized by Congress in 
2002. Today, Tribal members are still waiting to receive safe drinking 
water as part of the Tribe's 1998 Water Rights Settlement. As portions 
of the Tribal components of infrastructure have been complete, the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) has been required to engage with, and 
pay for the Operations, Maintenance, and Repair (OM&R). This was part 
of the 2002 law authorizing the project and a Tri-Partite Cooperative 
Agreement established in 2005 between the BIA and the Chippewa Cree 
Tribe. As part of that agreement, a Trust Fund was established to pay 
for OM&R costs which have been sufficient to account for the interim 
costs while the Tribe awaits water service, however the Trust fund is 
estimated to be drastically insufficient once the new Water Treatment 
Plant and water system comes online.
    Due to the significant funding boost made to the Bureau of 
Reclamation for rural water projects in recent years through annual 
discretionary appropriations and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, 
substantial construction progress is being made on both the Tribal and 
non-Tribal water system, including substantial completion of the new 
Water Treatment Plant Building at Tiber Reservoir. Numerous pipelines, 
a pump station, and water storage tanks are in stages of progress, all 
with a goal to turn on water service in the 2027 time period. At that 
time, the additional funding will be required to pay for the BIA OM&R 
costs obligations under the Tri-Partite Agreement, which would be 
several million dollars annually. The Chippewa Cree Tribe is working 
actively with the BIA in the Rocky Mountain Regional Office to begin 
for preparations for full scale water system operations, and Tribal and 
non-Tribal residents are looking forward to receiving a clean, safe, 
and abundant water supply within the next few years.
    Contamination at the BIA road maintenance compound: There is a BIA 
road maintenance compound located in the heart of Rocky Boys agency, 
which is the hub of our community. Following a 2017 ``Soil and 
Groundwater Focused Feasibility Study''--fully funded by the BIA--we 
discovered hydrocarbons/gasoline in the soil, groundwater, and surface 
water downgrade and adjacent to the compound. The investigation also 
revealed Benzyne in the soil directly below the compound. These 
contaminants should not be allowed to continue to pollute the surface 
water, and drinking water and risk the health of the people of Rocky 
Boy and surrounding areas. Is this allowable in other communities in 
the country? Remediation is necessary, and the estimated cost of 
remediation is roughly $10,800,000. The remediation would involve a 
combination of excavation and removal of contaminated material as well 
as an interception trench, and pump and treatment of site and 
materials. So far, the BIA has failed to act and address this issue 
through remediation. If this were City Hall in your hometown, would 
this injustice go unchecked? The Chippewa Cree people demand justice in 
its simplest form. The Federal Government must step up and right this 
wrong.
    Reduce Dependence on Federal Grants: In addition to the critical 
funding needs that are outlined above, we also support moving away from 
competitive grants for Federal funding mechanisms. Grants unfairly pit 
Tribes against each other for resources we are all entitled to. The 
Federal trust responsibility does not require that we jump through a 
myriad of hoops and onerous applications to see that services are 
provided to our citizens. Too often, Tribes are under-resourced to 
apply for Federal grants and comply with their reporting requirements. 
Our staff must divert time to apply and report, thereby diluting the 
usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request wide-spread, formula-
based funding across all programs. Tribes must also be granted the 
flexibility needed to respond to the specific needs of their own 
communities, not those prescribed by Federal grants. This also means 
appropriating enough resources so funds are provided in meaningful 
amounts across all Tribes. We join other Tribal leaders in calling for 
broad based funding for Indian Country.

    [This statement was submitted by Joseph Rosette, Councilman, 
Chippewa Cree Tribe.]
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              Prepared Statement of the Conservation Fund
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
Appropriations subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies, thank you for this opportunity to submit outside witness 
testimony on behalf of The Conservation Fund (TCF). TCF supports the 
mandatory funding request of $900 million and additional discretionary 
funding in Fiscal Year 2025 for the Land and Water Conservation Fund 
(LWCF), which includes the Federal land acquisition programs of the 
Bureau of Land Management ($85 million), National Park Service ($115 
million), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service ($125 million), U.S. Forest 
Service ($134 million), as well as three State grant programs, among 
others: the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Cooperative Endangered 
Species Conservation Fund ($32 million); National Park Service's State 
Assistance Grants program ($260 million); and the U.S. Forest Service's 
Forest Legacy Program ($100 million). TCF also supports a funding 
request for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's North American 
Wetlands Conservation Fund ($50 million); U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service's State and Tribal Wildlife Grant Programs ($100 million); U.S. 
Fish and Wildlife Service's Chesapeake Watershed Investments for 
Landscape Defense Program ($15 million); National Park Service's 
Chesapeake Bay Gateways and Watertrails Program ($3 million); and the 
U.S. Forest Service's Community Forest and Open Space Conservation 
Program ($7 million); and the Department of Interior's (DOI) Natural 
Resource Damage Assessment and Restoration Program ($10 million). TCF 
requests funding for the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Great 
Lakes Restoration Initiative ($425 million) and Chesapeake Bay Program 
($100 million).
    TCF is a national, non-profit conservation organization dedicated 
to conserving America's land and water legacy for future generations. 
Established in 1985, TCF works with landowners; federal, State and 
local agencies; and other partners to conserve our Nation's important 
lands for people, wildlife and communities. To date, TCF has helped our 
partners to conserve over 9 million acres. These accomplishments are 
due, in large measure, to the leadership of this subcommittee over many 
years to appropriate funds to acquire lands for future generations, 
working forests, recreational opportunities, wildlife habitat, and many 
other benefits.
    Below are highlights of some benefits of the LWCF and land 
acquisition programs. While these projects show the tremendous 
diversity of benefits of land acquisition for the public, they have one 
thing in common: each of these projects is driven by landowners. Many 
farmers, ranchers and forestland owners have significant financial 
equity in their land. By enabling a landowner to sell a conservation 
easement or fee title, the LWCF program provides landowners with funds 
to stay in business, reinvest in businesses, or meet other financial 
goals.
    As the subcommittee crafts its Interior, Environment and Related 
Agencies Appropriations bill, there are several key points we 
respectfully request you to consider, listed below.
    Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) at $900 million in 
mandatory and additional discretionary funding: The enactment of the 
Great American Outdoors Act is a top momentous land conservation 
victory in a generation. The Conservation Fund applauds Congress for 
passing the bipartisan, bicameral legislation that provides full and 
mandatory funding (at $900 million) for the Land and Water Conservation 
Fund. We also encourage Congress to provide discretionary funding to 
address emerging needs and opportunities. Funding the Nation's premier 
conservation program with both mandatory and discretionary funding in 
FY2025 will ensure LWCF continues to fulfill its mission to safeguard 
natural areas, water resources, and our cultural heritage, and to 
provide recreation opportunities to all Americans.
    The Conservation Fund applauds the Senate and House Committees for 
its support for land acquisition and appraisal process improvements, as 
was included in the Fiscal Year 2023 and 2024 reports. TCF urges the 
Committees to continue working with the Departments to streamline and 
improve processes, particularly appraisal timelines and partnerships 
with non-federal parties, to deliver on priority land conservation 
efforts and effectively implement the Great American Outdoors Act.
    The Conservation Fund also urges the Senate and House Committees to 
support reprogramming of prior years' funding from the LWCF, as opposed 
to rescinding the funding as that practice undermines this critical 
conservation program. It is common for Federal land acquisition funds 
to remain ``unobligated'' until the last step in an acquisition 
project-this can reasonably take up to 5 years. Unobligated balances 
are not a problem in and of themselves, but funding should be moved to 
other acquisition projects if it is no longer needed for acquisitions 
within the Federal unit originally receiving the LWCF funding. To this 
end, Congress should continue to encourage the agencies to use a tool 
they already have-reprogramming-rather than rescissions to ensure LWCF 
funds are spent on critical conservation needs, fulfilling the purpose 
of the LWCF and the intent of the Great American Outdoors Act.
    LWCF-Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Land Acquisition at $85 
million. The BLM and its National Conservation Lands provide some of 
our Nation's best recreation and historic areas, such as opening new 
recreational access to sportsmen and protecting water quality and 
riparian resources in the Dominguez Canyon Wilderness in Colorado. We 
request $85 million to fund BLM's land acquisition program and 
projects.
    LWCF-National Park Service (NPS) Federal Land Acquisition at $115 
million. Hosting more than 325 million visitors in 2023, the 429 
National Park units provide an economic boost to their local 
communities and those employed directly and indirectly. Funding for NPS 
LWCF will help protect key access points for recreation, historic 
areas, trails and more. We respectfully request $115 million to fund 
NPS's land acquisition program and projects.
    LWCF-U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) Land Acquisition at $125 
million. National Wildlife Refuges (NWR) are our Nation's protectors of 
clean water, clean air, abundant wildlife, and world-class recreation. 
Funding for FY2025 FWS LWCF will help protect critical wildlife 
habitat, provide public access and recreation, and improve water 
quality at Refuges, including Maryland's Blackwater National Wildlife 
Refuge and Georgia's Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge; as well as 
preserving our Nation's working lands, such as at Montana's Rocky 
Mountain Front Conservation Area. We respectfully request $125 million 
to fund FWS's land acquisition program and projects.
    LWCF-USDA Forest Service (FS) Land Acquisition at $134 million. FS 
LWCF funding is an important forest management tool, as it protects key 
inholdings and reduces fire threats. As a national partner facilitating 
transactions, we are working with willing landowners at priority 
project areas and respectfully request $134 million to fund FS's land 
acquisition program and projects.
    LWCF State Grant Programs: FWS-Cooperative Endangered Species Fund, 
NPS- State Conservation Grants, and USFS-Forest Legacy: We encourage 
the subcommittee to fund:

  --FWS-Cooperative Endangered Species Conservation Fund: $32 million 
        (for the LWCF-funded portion)

  --NPS-State Assistance Grants program: $260 million

  --USFS-Forest Legacy Program: $100 million

    DOI and FS Conservation and Land Acquisition Programs: TCF 
encourages the Committee to fund:

  --FWS-North American Wetlands Conservation Fund at $50 million

  --FWS-State and Tribal Wildlife Grant Program at $100 million. The 
        State and Tribal Wildlife Grant Program is the only Federal 
        funding source available to States that leverages non-federal 
        funds to help protect critical habitat for over 12,000 species 
        in greatest conservation need identified in state wildlife 
        action plans. To build upon the State and Tribal Wildlife 
        Program, TCF urges Congress to enact the Recovering America's 
        Wildlife Act. This legislation aims to provide critical 
        resources to conduct proactive, non-regulatory fish and 
        wildlife conservation efforts nationwide.

  --FWS-Chesapeake Watershed Investments for Landscape Defense Program 
        at $15 million

  --NPS-Chesapeake Bay Gateways and Watertrails Program at $3.075 
        million

  --FS-Community Forest and Open Space Conservation Program at $7 
        million

    Department of the Interior-Natural Resource Damage Assessment and 
Restoration Program at $10 million. The Restoration Program leads the 
National response for recovery of natural resources that have been 
injured or destroyed because of oil spills or releases of other 
hazardous substances. Recoveries from responsible parties can only be 
spent to implement restoration plans developed by the Trustee Council 
for each incident. These funds are one hundred percent private and 
represent the amount needed to restore environmental resources or 
compensate for lost public use since the damage in question. The FY2024 
funds would allow the Program to add carefully targeted staff allocated 
to Interior bureaus and offices through its Restoration Support Unit to 
accelerate restoration activities.

    Environmental Protection Agency Programs: TCF encourages the 
Committee to fund:

  --Great Lakes Restoration Initiative (GRLI) at $425 million. TCF 
        urges funding of GLRI at $425 million. The Initiative provides 
        critical support for on-the-ground restoration programs and 
        projects targeted at the most significant environmental 
        problems in the Great Lakes ecosystem.

  --Chesapeake Bay Program at $100 million: TCF urges funding of the 
        Chesapeake Bay program at $100 million. This program brings 
        together a diverse partnership to support the Bay's 
        restoration.

    The Conservation Fund stands ready to work with you to secure full 
and consistent funding for the LWCF and the other critically important 
programs that help protect the environment, economies, forests, and 
community values across our Nation. Thank you for the opportunity to 
provide this testimony and your consideration of our request.

    [This statement was submitted by Kelly Reed, Senior Vice President 
of Government Relations, The Conservation Fund.]
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    Prepared Statement of the Chugach Regional Resources Commission
    Thank you to the members of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee 
on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies for the opportunity to 
be heard today. My testimony is about accounts within the Bureau of 
Indian Affairs (BIA)--Natural Resources Management--Tribal Management/
Development Program (TMDP) and line items within the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS) budget \1\ on behalf of the Chugach Regional 
Resources Commission (CRRC), an inter-Tribal organization in 
southcentral Alaska that provides crucial natural resource management 
and subsistence support to seven Tribes and nearly 3,000 Alaska Natives 
in a region the size of West Virginia.
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    \1\ The related USFWS accounts include: Resource Management: 
Ecological Services: Conservation and Restoration account and Fish and 
Aquatic Conservation: Aquatic Habitat and Species Conservation: 
Subsistence Managers and Tribal Trust Responsibilities accounts.
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    Today, I am asking that the subcommittee take action on three 
issues affecting CRRC's budget that have arisen through historical 
inequities. Taking action on these issues will not only honor your 
Federal trust responsibilities to the Alaska Natives we serve but will 
also result in sound fiscal oversight of the Federal budget.
    First, we ask that our TMDP base funding be increased to a level 
comparable to the increases that Congress has provided for other TMDP 
programs over the past 10 years. Second, we ask that this subcommittee 
fund the USFWS line items for co-stewardship and co-management and 
require USFWS to set aside a portion of the funding to support co-
management agreements for species and regions that have been left out 
of existing agreements. Third, we request this subcommittee to exercise 
fiscal oversight to ensure that BIA's spending of the funds aligns with 
Congress's intentions in forming and passing the Federal budget.
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    \2\ Subsistence is a way of life that describes the rich 
relationship between Alaska Natives and the gathering, fishing, and 
hunting of plants, fish, and animals (often referred to by the Service 
as resources). Subsistence harvests continue to sustain the cultural, 
nutritional, economic, and spiritual well-being of Alaska Natives.
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    CRRC is an inter-Tribal fish and wildlife commission authorized as 
a Tribal consortium under the Indian Self Determination and Education 
Assistance Act (ISDEAA. For forty years, CRRC has provided support for 
subsistence advocacy and natural resource management for seven Alaska 
Native villages in the Prince William Sound and Lower Cook Inlet 
regions of southcentral Alaska: the Native Village of Eyak, Qutekcak 
Native Tribe, Valdez Native Tribe, Native Village of Port Graham, 
Native Village of Chenega, Native Village of Nanwalek, and Native 
Village of Tatitlek. CRRC protects the subsistence lifestyle of the 
Native people of the Chugach region--a massive area that covers 20,000 
square miles of marine waters and includes more than 5,000 miles of 
coastline--where all of the natural resources are still recovering from 
the disastrous 1989 Exxon Valdez Oil Spill. As part of this mission, 
CRRC operates the Alutiiq Pride Marine Institute (APMI), which is the 
only shellfish hatchery in all of Alaska and one of only two Tribal 
hatcheries in the state.
    CRRC supports the health, economic stability, food security, and 
continuity of traditional ways of life for people throughout the entire 
Chugach region--both Native and non-Native. We perform all of these 
duties working with our federal, State, and local partners. By 
providing stable and sufficient Federal funds for our work, the 
benefits reach far beyond the local level. Every dollar provided to 
CRRC results in decreased need for Federal services in a remote region 
of Alaska. Most of the region is not on the road system and can only be 
reached by boat or air. It costs much more for the Federal Government 
to conduct program activities, and arrange travel, lodging, local 
support, and transportation, than for CRRC to locally manage such 
activities.
                   request for parity in tmdp funding
    We request that the line item for CRRC's TMDP funding be increased 
to $1.18 million, which is less than 1/4 of our current annual 
operating budget. This amount would bring CRRC's budget back in line 
with the other programs in the TMDP account, and would allow us to 
establish stable programs in habitat protection and enhancement, 
conservation of fish, wildlife and plant resources, subsistence 
management, surveys and stock assessments, and technical capacity 
building at the local level; support the documentation and appropriate 
use of traditional Alaska Native ecological knowledge; monitor the 
ecosystem to ensure access to traditional foods; incubate kelp 
mariculture farms for Tribal entrepreneurs; expand hydroponics and game 
processing facilities for food security in our remote communities; and 
operate and maintain the only Tribally-operated shellfish hatchery in 
Alaska.
    Over the past 10 years, Congress has laudably more than doubled the 
budget for TMDP programs. This is sound fiscal management, because 
every dollar provided to a Tribal organization for natural resource 
management at the local level results in far more savings to the 
Federal Government in terms of staffing, project costs, travel, 
research, data collection, and duplication of efforts. Unfortunately, 
though, our TMDP line-item funding level did not keep pace with the 
other programs. Our budget was increased only once, by an amount that 
works out to less than one percent per year in the same period.
    Over the past 4 years, our annual operating budget has grown from 
about $1 million to over $5 million from other sources. This money goes 
right back into the Chugach region, resulting in economic development 
and entrepreneurship for our Tribal people; employment opportunities 
through full-time, seasonal, and contract work; support for food 
security; data on wildlife and plants that enhances community, state, 
and Federal agency management decisions; and monitoring of ocean 
conditions and subsistence resources. It is no coincidence that this 
growth parallels increases in funding that we have received through 
one-time, competitive grants from BIA through the Alaska Inter-Tribal 
Subsistence Cooperative Management Program for special subsistence 
projects.\2\ A conservative analysis of our subsistence special 
projects funding shows that every $1 of Federal money we received for 
this work resulted in more than 3 1/2 times that amount returned on 
investment. We were able to use these special project funds to leverage 
other public and private funds and resources. We have been able to 
conduct surveys and stock assessments that Federal and State agencies 
have neglected in our region for many years: moose, marine mammals, 
salmon, and vegetation and wetlands surveys. Our efforts are informing 
Federal and State agencies' natural resource management decisions and 
directly impacting and enhancing the data compiled by USFWS, NOAA, and 
other agencies.
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    \2\ Subsistence is a way of life that describes the rich 
relationship between Alaska Natives and the gathering, fishing, and 
hunting of plants, fish, and animals (often referred to by the Service 
as resources). Subsistence harvests continue to sustain the cultural, 
nutritional, economic, and spiritual well-being of Alaska Natives.
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    But our lack of increase in recurring, base funding means that we 
can't make this a sustainable growth pattern. These efforts are 
severely limited by the short duration of the funds, the administrative 
burden of compiling applications and reporting, and the lack of budget 
certainty inherent in year-to-year fundraising. A stable, fair increase 
in our recurring TMDP base fundswould allow us to increase the Federal 
return on investment and build sustainable natural resource development 
foundations in the region.
                request for co-management opportunities
    We support USFWS's current requests for co-management and co-
stewardship funding. In addition, we request that the subcommittee 
allocate a portion of funding for regions or species for which there 
are no current arrangements. There are vast areas of Alaska that are 
not covered by existing co-management agreements, including our own 
Chugach region. We have had difficulty with USFWS when requesting new 
agreements because they have no budget to support those agreements. 
This means that Alaska Natives in Alaska's southcentral region have no 
ability to co-manage species that are critical to our people's 
cultural, spiritual, economic, and nutritional sustenance. Without such 
agreements, there is no direct channel for compiling and sharing 
information that we have with USFWS about species and the changing 
climate and effects on the ecosystem. This also means that Federal 
efforts to gather data, produce reports, and manage species are less 
effective, more expensive and more duplicative than they can and should 
be.
    Without meaningful, robust collaboration with the Native people who 
hold essential knowledge about the ecosystem, Federal efforts will 
continue to be less focused and effective than they could otherwise be.
    We focus our work on bio-cultural restoration. As the original 
managers of the lands and waters in our region, our people have an 
unparalleled knowledge base and strong cultural ties that have been 
developed through systematic observation and use over hundreds and 
thousands of years. These observations have been honed and refined as 
our Native people developed and adapted their subsistence practices. 
For decades, we have framed our work around this rich understanding of 
the Chugach region ecosystem to conduct research, collect data, produce 
high-quality hatchery technology, and repopulate animal and plant 
resources that were devastated by the 1989 Exxon Valdez Oil Spill and 
continue to be affected by climate change. APMI's marine research work 
is founded on our Tribal communities' rich understanding of the Chugach 
region ecosystem. We have dedicated significant resources towards 
research on our subsistence populations, ocean acidification, kelp 
mariculture, hydroponics farming, and development of large-scale 
hatchery enhancement models. This work centers on the need to protect 
and provide subsistence resources. Our Federal partners should be able 
to share the knowledge from our efforts, rather than duplicating or 
overlooking them.
    Far too often, decisions regarding subsistence resource management 
are made based on data collected in years past. But climate change 
means that conditions on the ground are rapidly deteriorating. In our 
region, climate change is manifesting as shoreline erosion, glacial 
retreat, early spring thaws, and warmer temperatures in both summer and 
winter. All of these changes are impacting the availability, location, 
and timing of subsistence resources. Yet there are no existing 
communication channels to exchange this type of up-to-date information 
between Tribes and Federal partners. This is a prime opportunity for 
co-management and co-stewardship agreements to bolster collaboration, 
and to create a better result through cooperative efforts between 
Federal agencies and Tribal organizations who possess the local 
knowledge and expertise.
                     agency oversight is necessary
    Federal agencies must be required to have systems that implement 
Congress's budget appropriations in the ways they are intended. Our 
experience shows that these systems are not properly functioning. 
Although the members of this subcommittee worked hard to ensure the 
continuity of government through continuing appropriations this year, 
we did not benefit from those efforts. Even now, we are 8 months into 
FY2024 and have not received any funds, or any responses to our 
inquiries about when we may expect payment. We are paying the Federal 
Government's bills and performing our work without payment and without 
even a promise of a payment date. These delays and uncertainties 
undermine our ability to carry out services for our region's Native 
population. This in turn undermines the Federal work in our region, 
since it jeopardizes CRRC's work on the government's behalf.
    Every year, BIA is months late paying our program funds, and is 
unresponsive to our requests for information. We have no budget 
certainty, and we are forced to leave positions unfilled and consider 
furloughs, with no communication from our Federal trustee about when 
our funds may be issued. As far as we can tell, the only way we can 
remedy our situation is to file a lawsuit, which we do not want to do. 
We want to work with our Federal partners, not against them. We 
urgently request that you address this situation through report 
language instructing BIA to make timely payments to all Tribes and 
Tribal Organizations and to report to you on any payments that are not 
made to the designated Tribes/Tribal Organizations within 30 days of 
BIA receiving the funding allocated by Congress under ISDEAA for 
FY2025.
    In closing, I would like to emphasize the important work that I 
have briefly described that has taken place because of your support 
over the past few years. Thank you for fully funding the President's 
budget for BIA's ISDEAA programs. With some of those funds, we have 
been able to make a difference in the lives of the Native people of our 
region, and to make a start on enhancing the work of the Federal 
agencies responsible for our region. We ask that you fully fund our 
necessary operations, so that we can lay a good foundation and sustain 
this work, and that we can collaborate with Federal agencies to 
effectively manage the precious natural resources of our vast region.

    [This statement was submitted by Willow Hetrick-Price, Executive 
Director, Chugach Regional Resources Commission.]
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  Prepared Statement of Coalition to Protect America's National Parks
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee, I am Philip A. (Phil) Francis, Jr., Chair of the 
Executive Council of the Coalition to Protect America's National Parks 
(Coalition). The Coalition is a non-profit organization composed of 
more than 2,500 retired, former and current employees of the National 
Park Service (NPS) who collectively have over 40,000 years of 
experience managing and protecting our National parks. The Coalition 
studies, educates, speaks, and acts for the preservation of America's 
National Park System. We appreciate the opportunity to present this 
statement for the record about the FY 2025 appropriations for the NPS, 
our National parks, and their partnership grant and assistance 
programs.
    Our membership and the Executive Council of the Coalition speak on 
a regular basis with the leadership of the NPS, park superintendents 
and park staff, program managers in central and regional offices, as 
well as park partners and volunteers. The messages we receive are very 
similar with a sense of desperation setting in as annual appropriations 
and available funding have not kept up with the NPS mission Congress 
has mandated and entrusted to park employees.
    Visitation has grown by 10 percent over the past 10-12 years while 
park staff has been reduced by over 2,500 full-time equivalents. 
Congress recognized this situation and appropriated additional funds in 
some of the recent years' appropriations bills, allowing the NPS to 
hire additional staff. Unfortunately, the current FY 2024 
appropriations reversed this progress with $150 million less than the 
previous year's funding, while also requiring NPS to absorb $125 
million in fixed costs. The president's budget for FY 2025 attempts to 
reverse this slide by requesting an additional $101 million for the 
NPS, which is appreciated, but still is inadequate to meet the needs of 
the NPS.
    The NPS is at a crossroads, and your subcommittee will determine 
the direction the agency will take. At the same time, your decisions 
will inform the American public of the importance you place on the 
protection of these nationally significant historical, cultural, and 
natural resources. In addition, you will be sending an important signal 
to those who visit our parks for recreational activities, for 
experiencing the historic buildings and related artifacts, and for 
learning about the stories told, what they can expect when they arrive.
    The NPS is facing an increasingly complex situation in managing 
park resources, as with the growing impacts from climate change. For 
example, recreational activities have been restricted at many of our 
water-based parks due to declining water levels at our lakes, 
reservoirs, rivers, and seashores. This is happening while both the 
House and Senate authorizing committees are considering comprehensive 
legislation to encourage more recreational activities among the 
visiting public at our National parks and public lands.
    On top of fewer programs being available for the visiting public, 
the parks also are experiencing growing traffic and parking issues, 
overcrowding, the degradation of natural and cultural resources, and 
increasing safety and public health concerns for both visitors and 
employees. Staff are less able to carry out basic functions that are 
important to visitors, such as frequent cleaning of restrooms and 
emptying of refuse containers. In program offices, reduced staffing has 
resulted in less support for parks and programs. All of this has led to 
loss of employees through attrition, unfunded positions, and low staff 
morale; problems that are compounded by the increasing challenges 
presented by an inefficient hiring process.
    Below are specific actions we recommend the subcommittee take as it 
prepares the FY 2025 Interior appropriations bill to address the needs 
of the NPS.
    1) Continuing to Enhance and Build Operational Capacity (ONPS). The 
Coalition believes the top priority is providing an adequate 
appropriation for park operations that will allow the NPS to hire 
additional employees to replace some of those lost over the past 12 
years. The president's budget recommends only an additional $21 million 
above the current year's appropriation in this account. The Coalition 
recommends this be increased to at least an additional $250 million.
    We place special emphasis on urging the subcommittee to provide the 
amount needed for fixed costs to ensure park, regional, and program 
offices do not further deteriorate by having to absorb those costs in 
their base budgets. Additionally, the Coalition recommends the 
increased funding focus on staffing for new parks, parks experiencing 
dramatic increases in visitation, and those with new programs enacted 
by Congress. We also urge any increased funding provide adequately for 
youth programs and Americorps, which help develop our next generation 
of conservation stewards. These programs are so important for alerting 
young people to the gateways available for working in our National 
parks through park ranger, laborer, and wildland firefighting 
positions.
    The Coalition continues to be concerned about the loss of almost 30 
percent of cultural resource management positions in our National 
parks, regional, and program offices over the past decade. Many 
cultural resources, including historic buildings, museum objects, and 
archeological sites, are unmaintained, severely threatened, or degraded 
due to a lack of funding.
    Protection of these resources and the many compelling stories 
associated with our country's history remain an important part of the 
NPS mandate. We urge the subcommittee to continue to work with NPS on 
ways to address these issues within available funding. We recommend the 
subcommittee include committee report language accompanying the FY 2025 
bill that directs NPS to provide the subcommittee with the status of 
vacant cultural resource positions, their anticipated ability to fill 
any of the vacant positions in the current fiscal year, and any 
recommendations they might have for prioritizing vacant positions for 
hiring in future fiscal years.
    Further, the Coalition urges that the provision that has been 
repeated for multiple years in appropriations bills concerning the NPS 
being prohibited from reducing, mitigating, and implementing 
educational awareness regarding the use of toxic lead be removed so 
that the NPS can appropriately address the continuing human and 
wildlife threat of toxic lead in parks where firing ranges and 
recreational hunting and fishing activities occur. This will enable the 
parks to protect and restore resources while ensuring a safe and 
healthy public environment.
    2) Construction. The president's budget recommends $237.2 million 
for the Construction account, which is an increase of $65 million over 
the FY 2024 enacted level. The Coalition supports this funding as a 
needed partner to the mandatory funding provided by the Great American 
Outdoors Act (GAOA). The NPS construction funding helps to ensure 
cyclic maintenance and repair/rehab activities are carried out in a 
timely manner so that the backlog of NPS maintenance does not continue 
to grow.
    Of particular importance to the Coalition is funding to address the 
NPS' park housing needs. The FY 2025 budget recommends building on last 
year's momentum by increasing the housing request by $9 million. The 
Coalition strongly supports this proposed increase to assist the parks 
in attracting and retaining the needed permanent and seasonal staffing 
who can live in affordable housing. Rental housing for temporary 
employees in resort areas has become almost non-existent due to the 
takeover of the rental market by weekly rentals. When government 
housing is unavailable, prospective employees either turn down jobs or 
quit when they cannot find a place to live.
    The Coalition continues to work with the House and Senate 
authorizing committees on additional authorities that the NPS and other 
Federal land management agencies may need to address the critical 
housing needs of the parks. To help advance this effort, we recommend 
the Interior appropriations subcommittee include in the bill a 
provision to authorize the NPS to fill vacant positions using local 
people who already live in the area and know the area well. Having this 
expanded authority, outside of the usual competitive process, would 
help reduce the need for providing some of the additional housing while 
taking advantage of the knowledge and experience of local people near 
the park. It also would reduce the number of times individuals are 
offered permanent positions at individual parks in remote, or high-
priced areas, only to have the offers declined due to the inability of 
the individuals to find and/or afford the cost of available housing.
    3) National Recreation and Preservation (NR&P) and the Historic 
Preservation Fund (HPF). Within the president's budget, various 
programs such as the National Register of Historic Places, Rivers, 
Trails, and Conservation Assistance, and several grant programs 
including the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation, 
Japanese American Confinement Sites, and National Heritage Areas, are 
funded under this account.
    The Coalition notes that these programs are critical to the 
partnership work of the NPS; they need adequate staff to fulfill their 
partnership responsibilities in a timely manner, which has been an area 
of critical concern in recent years. The president's budget recommends 
a decrease in funding for these programs of almost $7 million. However, 
it recognizes that the work of administering these grant programs 
continues to grow with the addition of the African-American Burial 
Grounds Preservation program in the most recent Congress and, 
therefore, requests an additional $500,000 to assist with this 
increased workload. The Coalition recommends maintaining at least level 
funding for these programs in FY 2025 to confirm the importance of 
these partnership opportunities and the resources being protected.
    An excellent example of NPS partnership activity is the 
collaboration through the Historic Preservation Fund, which preserves 
historically and culturally significant sites and provides competitive 
grants to non-Federal entities, including our Tribal nations. These 
partnerships have been of increasing importance to more and more parks 
through the Centennial Challenge program, with its matching funds from 
park partners for individual park projects. The Coalition supports 
these critical partnership opportunities as they often double the 
funding provided by Congress and increase the impact on park and 
associated historic and cultural resources.
    4) Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA). We note that the president's 
budget outlines its priorities for using the mandatory funding 
appropriated through the GAOA in FY 2025. The NPS is appropriated $1.3 
billion for various deferred maintenance programs through the Legacy 
Restoration Fund. This includes $25 million directed to Maintenance 
Action Teams (MAT) that carry out projects among the small and medium-
sized parks throughout the Nation. The Coalition believes this amount 
is too limited and we continue to emphasize that the needs of these 
smaller parks are just as important as the large parks and urge that 
the capacity of the MAT be increased to help these parks.
    The Coalition is supportive of the $104 million in mandatory 
appropriations through the Land and Water Conservation Fund, also 
coming from the GAOA. We remain disappointed that only $58 million is 
recommended for NPS Federal land acquisition when so many parks have 
private inholdings that are waiting to be acquired. We also note how 
the division of the $900 million available LWCF funding is heavily 
biased in the president's recommendation with over $335 million being 
dedicated to NPS state assistance grants, and almost half of the total 
available funding being dedicated to this and other grant programs. We 
urge the subcommittee to use its authority to redirect some of this 
funding to Federal land acquisition to balance these funds more 
equitably commensurate with the need.
    Thank you for consideration of our request. We look forward to 
continuing to work with you during the consideration of the FY 2025 
Interior appropriations bill.

    [This statement was submitted by Philip A. Francis, Jr., Chair of 
the Executive Council, Coalition to Protect America's National Parks.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Coalition of Refuge Friends and Advocates
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Coalition of 
Refuge Friends and Advocates, which was formed in 2020 to support the 
National Wildlife Refuge System. We appreciate the opportunity to 
submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations 
bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for 
National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    ``National Wildlife Refuges are places where the music of life has 
been rehearsed to perfection, where nature's colors are most vibrant, 
where time is measured in seasons, and where the dance of the crane 
takes center stage. They are gifts to ourselves and to generations 
unborn- simple gifts unwrapped each time a birder lifts binoculars, a 
child overturns a rock, a hunter sets the decoys, or an angler casts 
the water.'' This is a quote taken from Fulfilling the Promise in the 
forward by then U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS)Director Jamie 
Clark.
    The Coalition of Refuge Friends and Advocates(CORFA) is a not-for-
profit organization that supports more than 180 officially designated 
Friends Groups by FWS that support an individual or complex of National 
Wildlife Refuges across the United States. They are comprised of local 
citizens that volunteer and passionately support ``their'' refuge as 
well as citizens across the country that have visited a refuge and 
enjoyed that ``gift'' so beautifully described by Director Clark.
    The gifts to the American public are not just in connecting with 
nature. National Wildlife Refuges provides billions of dollars in 
ecosystem services. Storm water attenuation, groundwater recharge, 
protection of important oil and gas infrastructure, and carbon storage 
are all important benefits that refuges provide to local communities as 
well as the country.
    The Friends Community that supports Refuges is upset by the current 
conditions on refuges and concerned for their future due to the 
continual erosion in funding and staffing for the refuge system. Refuge 
staffs have been cut in half or have one staff person and most refuges 
are now part of a refuge complex with other refuges that have less 
staff. Trails are closed or poorly maintained, visitor centers are open 
only a couple days a week if at all. Worse yet is the unhealthy 
condition of habitats the refuges manage...rusting or inoperable water 
control structures, increasing spread of invasive exotics, the 
inability to use important habitat management techniques such as 
prescribed fire or impoundment management. The significant loss of 
biologists to monitor wildlife populations and provide the needed 
scientific expertise to ensure healthy wildlife populations, as well as 
the loss of refuge law enforcement officers to ensure the safety of the 
visiting public and stop poaching of wildlife have greatly impacted 
Refuges, the ``gifts'' Congress authorized over the last 121 years.
    In order to continue to be the greatest network and lands and 
waters in the world set aside for wildlife, increased funding to 
operate the National wildlife refuge system is desperately needed. 
Although the funding need is huge, CORFA understands the current budget 
climate. A minimum of $602.3 million is needed to begin the road to 
recovery of the refuge system and the billions of dollars in ecosystem, 
economic, and recreational values to the American public.

    [This statement was submitted by Mark J Musaus, Vice President, 
Board Member for the Coalition of Refuge Friends and Advocates.]
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Prepared Statement of the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Program
    This testimony is in support of Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 funding for 
the Department of the Interior's Bureau of Land Management (BLM) 
associated activities that assist the implementation of Title II of the 
Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act of 1974 (Public Law 93-320). 
This long-standing successful and cost-effective salinity control 
program in the Colorado River Basin is being carried out pursuant to 
the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act and the Clean Water Act 
(Public Law 92-500). Congress has directed the Secretary of the 
Interior to implement a comprehensive program for minimizing salt 
contributions to the Colorado River from lands administered by the BLM. 
BLM funds these efforts through the Aquatic Resources Program. BLM's 
efforts are an essential part of the overall effort. A funding level of 
$2.0 million for salinity specific projects in FY-2025 is requested to 
prevent further degradation of the quality of Colorado River water 
supplies and increased environmental and economic damages.
    The Colorado River Board of California (Colorado River Board) is 
the state agency charged with protecting California's interests and 
rights in the water and power resources of the Colorado River system. 
In this capacity, California participates along with the other six 
Colorado River Basin States through the Colorado River Basin Salinity 
Control Forum (Forum), the interstate organization responsible for 
coordinating the Basin States' salinity control efforts. In close 
cooperation with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and 
pursuant to requirements of the Clean Water Act, the Forum is charged 
with reviewing the Colorado River water quality standards every 3 
years. Every 3 years the Forum adopts a Plan of Implementation 
consistent with these water quality standards. The report ``2023 
Review: Water Quality Standards for Salinity, Colorado River System'' 
contains both the water quality standard and the Plan of 
Implementation, and can be found at:

    https://coloradoriversalinity.org/docs/
2023%20Review%20(final%20with%20
appendices%20to%20print).pdf.

    If adequate funds are not appropriated, significant damages 
associated with increasing salinity concentrations of Colorado River 
water will become more widespread in the United States and Mexican 
portions of the Colorado River Basin.
    The EPA has determined that more than sixty percent of the salt 
load of the Colorado River comes from natural sources. Through passage 
of the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act in 1974, Congress 
recognized that much of the salts in the Colorado River originate on 
federally owned lands, much of which is administered by BLM. Title I of 
the Salinity Control Act deals with the U.S. commitment to efforts 
related to maintaining the quality of waters being delivered to Mexico 
pursuant to the 1944 Water Treaty. Title II of the act deals with 
improving the quality of the water delivered to water users in the 
United States. In 1984, Congress amended the Salinity Control Act and 
directed that the Secretary of the Interior develop a comprehensive 
program for minimizing salt contributions to the Colorado River from 
lands administered by BLM. In 2000, Congress reiterated its directive 
to the Secretary and requested a report on the implementation of BLM's 
program (Public Law 106-459). In 2003, BLM employed a Salinity 
Coordinator to coordinate BLM efforts in the Colorado River Basin 
States to pursue salinity control studies and to implement specific 
salinity control practices. BLM is now working to create a 
comprehensive Colorado River Basin salinity control program as directed 
by Congress. In January 2018 BLM issued A Framework for Improving the 
Effectiveness of the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Program, 
2018-2023. This document lays out how BLM intends to implement Colorado 
River Basin salinity control activities over the next 5 years.
    With a significant portion of the salt load of the Colorado River 
coming from BLM-administered lands, the BLM portion of the overall 
program is essential to the success of the Colorado River Basin 
Salinity Control Program. Inadequate support for BLM salinity control 
efforts will result in significant additional economic damages to water 
users downstream.
    Over the fifty years since the passage of the Colorado River Basin 
Salinity Control Act, much has been learned about the impact of salts 
in the Colorado River system. As described in the 2023 Plan of 
Implementation, the salinity concentration of Colorado River water 
causes about $348 million in quantifiable economic damages in the 
United States annually. Economic and hydrologic modeling by Reclamation 
indicates that these economic damages could rise to more than $447 
million by the year 2040 without continued implementation of the 
salinity control program. For example, damages can be incurred related 
to the following activities:

  --A reduction in the ability and increased costs to reclaim and reuse 
        water due to high salinities in the water delivered to water 
        treatment and reclamation facilities;

  --A reduction in the yield of salt-sensitive crops and increased 
        water use to meet the leaching requirements in the agricultural 
        sector;

  --Increases in the amount of imported water;

  --Increased costs of desalination and brine disposal for recycled 
        water in the municipal sector;

  --A reduction in the useful life of galvanized water pipe systems, 
        water heaters, faucets, and other household appliances, and 
        increased use of bottled water and water softeners in the 
        residential sectors;

  --Increased costs of cooling operations and the cost of water 
        softening, and a decrease in equipment service life in the 
        commercial sector;

  --Increases in the use of water and cost of water treatment, and an 
        increase in sewer fees in the industrial sector;

  --Decreased life of treatment facilities and pipelines in the utility 
        sector;

  --Increasing difficulty in meeting wastewater discharge requirements 
        to comply with National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System 
        permit terms and conditions; and


  --Increased desalination and brine disposal costs due to accumulation 
        of salts in groundwater basins.

    Based on current program cost levels, a funding level of $2.0 
million for salinity specific projects in FY-2025 is requested to 
continue this longstanding program for minimizing salt contributions to 
the Colorado River from lands administered by the BLM.
    The Colorado River is, and will continue to be, a major and vital 
water resource to the nearly 20 million residents of southern 
California, including municipal, industrial, and agricultural water 
users in Imperial, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San 
Diego, and Ventura Counties. The protection and improvement of Colorado 
River water quality through the continued implementation of this very 
effective salinity control program avoids, or reduces, additional 
environmental and economic damages to California, the other Colorado 
River Basin States, and Mexico that rely on Colorado River water 
resources.
    Thank you for your consideration of this testimony.

    [This statement was submitted by Christopher S. Harris, Executive 
Director, Colorado River Board of California.]
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Prepared Statement of the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Program
    Waters from the Colorado River are used by nearly 40 million people 
for municipal and industrial purposes and for irrigation of 
approximately 5.5 million acres in the United States. Natural and 
human-induced salt loading to the Colorado River causes environmental 
and economic damages. Though past efforts have reduced annual damages 
to water users by several hundred million dollars per year, in 2023 the 
Bureau of Reclamation (Reclamation) estimated the quantifiable damages 
to Lower Basin water users due to elevated salinity levels still at 
about $348 million per year (unquantifiable damages add to this 
amount). Congress authorized the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control 
Program (Program) through the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act 
(Act) (Public Law 93-320) in 1974 to offset increased damages caused by 
development and use of the waters of the Colorado River. Modeling by 
Reclamation indicates that the quantifiable damages would rise to 
approximately $447 million by the year 2040 without continuation of the 
Program. Congress has directed the Secretary of the Interior 
(Secretary) to implement a comprehensive program for minimizing salt 
contributions to the Colorado River from lands administered by the 
Bureau of Land Management (BLM). BLM has funded these efforts as 
directed by Congress through its Aquatic Resources Program. BLM's 
efforts are an essential part of the overall effort. A funding level of 
$2.0 million for salinity specific projects in 2025 is requested to 
prevent further degradation of the quality of the Colorado River and a 
commensurate increase in downstream economic damages.
    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has identified that 
more than 60 percent of the salt load of the Colorado River comes from 
natural sources. The majority of land within the Colorado River Basin 
is federally owned, much of which is administered by BLM. In 
authorizing Program (Public Law 93-320, Act) in 1974, Congress 
recognized that most of the salts in the Colorado River originate from 
federally owned lands. Title I of the act deals with programs 
downstream of Imperial Dam that enable the U.S. to meet its commitment 
regarding the quality of waters being delivered to Mexico (Minute No. 
242 of the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States 
and Mexico). Title II of the act addresses measures upstream from 
Imperial Dam, thus improving the quality of the water delivered to 
users in the United States. This testimony deals specifically with 
Title II efforts. In 1984, Congress amended the Salinity Control Act 
(Public Law 98-569) and directed the Secretary to develop a 
comprehensive program for minimizing salt contributions to the Colorado 
River from lands administered by BLM. In 2000, Congress reiterated its 
directive to the Secretary and requested a report on the implementation 
of BLM's program (Public Law 106-459). Beginning in 2003, BLM employed 
a Salinity Coordinator to increase BLM efforts in the Colorado River 
Basin to pursue salinity control studies and to implement specific 
salinity control practices.
    BLM is now working on a comprehensive Colorado River Basin salinity 
control program as directed by Congress. In January 2018 BLM issued A 
Framework for Improving the Effectiveness of the Colorado River Basin 
Salinity Control Program, 2018-2023. This document lays out how BLM 
intends to implement Colorado River Basin salinity control activities 
over the 5-year period. Meaningful resources have been expended by BLM 
in the past few years to better understand salt mobilization on 
rangelands. With a significant portion of the salt load of the Colorado 
River coming from BLM administered lands, the BLM portion of the 
overall program is essential to the success of the effort. Inadequate 
BLM salinity control efforts will result in significant additional 
economic damage to water users downstream.
    Damages to water users in the United States and Mexico, caused by 
the concentration of salt in the Colorado River, by water usage sector, 
include the following:

  --a reduction in the ability to reclaim and reuse water for 
        beneficial uses, including drinking water and irrigation water 
        supplies, due to high salinities in the water delivered to 
        water treatment and reclamation facilities,

  --a reduction in the yield of salt sensitive crops, increased water 
        use to meet leaching requirements and additional actions 
        necessary to comply with the Clean Water Act for the 
        agricultural sector,

  --an increased use of imported water and cost of desalination and 
        brine disposal for recycling water in the municipal sector,

  --a reduction in the useful life of galvanized water pipe systems, 
        water heaters, faucets, garbage disposals, clothes washers and 
        dishwashers, and increased use of bottled water and water 
        softeners in the household sector,

  --an increase in the cost of cooling operations and the cost of water 
        softening, and a decrease in equipment service life in the 
        commercial sector,

  --an increase in the use of water and the cost of water treatment, 
        and a corresponding increase in sewer fees in the industrial 
        sector,

  --a decrease in the lifespan of treatment facilities and pipelines in 
        the utility sector, and

  --difficulty in meeting wastewater discharge requirements to comply 
        with National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit 
        terms and conditions, and an increase in desalination and brine 
        disposal costs necessary to minimize accumulation of salts in 
        groundwater basins.

    The Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Forum (Forum) is composed 
of gubernatorial appointees from Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, 
New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming. The Forum is charged with reviewing the 
Colorado River's water quality standards for salinity every 3 years to 
facilitate compliance with Section 303(c) of the Clean Water Act 
(Public Law 92-500). In so doing, it adopts a Plan of Implementation 
consistent with these standards. The level of appropriation requested 
in this testimony is consistent with the adopted Plan of 
Implementation. If adequate funds are not appropriated, significant 
damages from higher salinity concentrations in the water will be more 
widespread in the United States and Mexico.
    In summary, implementation of salinity control practices through 
BLM is a cost-effective method of controlling the salinity of the 
Colorado River and is an essential component of the overall Program. 
Continuation of adequate funding levels for salinity control within the 
Aquatic Resources Program will assist in preventing further degradation 
of the Colorado River's water quality and a commensurate significant 
increase in economic damages to municipal, industrial and irrigation 
users. A modest investment in source control pays huge dividends in 
improved water quality to nearly 40 million Americans. The Forum 
requests that this committee direct BLM to continue its support of the 
Program and expend at least $2.0 million in 2025 from its Aquatic 
Resources Program for Colorado River salinity-control specific 
activities.

    [This statement was submitted by Don A. Barnett, Executive 
Director, Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Forum.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes of 
                        the Flathead Reservation
    My name is Carole Lankford and I am a member of the Tribal Council 
of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes of the Flathead 
Reservation. We appreciate the Senate Interior Appropriations 
subcommittee for its dedication to the needs of Indian Country and the 
opportunity to present testimony concerning these important 
appropriations.
    For thousands of years the Bitterroot Salish, Upper Pend d'Oreille, 
and Kootenai people thrived in portions of what is now Montana, Idaho, 
and British Columbia. Under the Hellgate Treaty of 1855, the Flathead 
Reservation was reserved as our permanent homeland and encompasses over 
1.2 million acres in western Montana situated around the southern half 
of Flathead Lake, the largest freshwater lake west of the Great Lakes. 
Our Tribes are made up of approximately 8,000 enrolled Tribal members, 
with approximately 5,000 Tribal members living on the Reservation. Our 
Reservation has a total Reservation population of roughly 30,000 
people.
    As a Self-Governance Tribe we have for decades carried out all 
functions of the Bureau of Indian Affairs and Indian Health Services on 
our Reservation, as well as the functions of the Environmental 
Protection Agency under the Treatment as States authorities for many 
years. Local control and wise fiscal management have allowed us to 
stretch limited resources far beyond the capabilities of the Federal 
Government. Despite the efficiencies our Tribal government can achieve, 
limitations on Federal resources present significant challenges for the 
delivery of services. These challenges have been exacerbated by 
unprecedented drought, mental health, and addiction facing our 
communities.
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    Our Reservation continues to face a serious mental health and 
addiction crisis worsened by the introduction of fentanyl and other 
opioids to our Reservation. Existing resources and methods are 
inadequate to effectively combat the complexities associated with 
opioid abuse. We are dedicated to providing needed mental health care 
and substance abuse treatment. We are engaged in several promising 
initiatives that, with adequate resources, will produce results. 
However, full funding for the Indian Health Service is a critical 
component to adequately address this mental health and addiction 
crisis.
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    Social Services, Public Safety and Housing. Our Tribal Council has 
undertaken an aggressive response to the mental health, addiction and 
housing crisis faced by our people. Perhaps the most significant 
component of our response is our participation in the Tiwahe 
Initiative. Tiwahe was established in 2015 to improve the health and 
wellbeing of families in Tribal communities by reducing poverty, 
substance abuse, domestic violence, and associated outcomes, such as 
youth suicide.
    We appreciate the subcommittee's support for Tiwahe, and strongly 
encourage additional support for Fiscal Year 2025. The President's 2025 
budget requests an increase of $28.6 million for additional support for 
Tiwahe Social Services, Housing, Tribal Justice Support, Tiwahe Indian 
Child Welfare Act programs, services, functions, and activities, 
including support for Tribal capacity building, and direct funding 
opportunities to Tribes seeking to develop and operate Healing to 
Wellness courts. At CSKT we have had tremendous success with our 
efforts to reduce recidivism and with our drug and wellness courts. 
Through our participation in Tiwahe, we intend to expand these 
important programs to help families and individuals struggling with 
substance abuse to access critical services so that they can be 
successful in housing, employment, and sobriety.
    Since joining Tiwahe we have made significant strides in the 
development steps leading to a well-coordinated system of change 
resulting in positive outcomes for our children and families. We have 
identified the need to create a coordinated service delivery system to 
break through silos and have implemented a cross-disciplinary team to 
co-case manage children in need of care and services. We are working to 
incorporate Tribal language and cultural perspectives into our 
programming, reviewing our codes and policies to address current 
challenges, and eager to begin subsequent phases through action and 
strategic planning.
    In addition to the President's FY 2025 requested increases, we also 
encourage the subcommittee to provide an additional $2 million in 
Tiwahe Job Placement/Training funds and $5 million to establish a 
Tribal Economic Development component within the Tiwahe Initiative to 
further development and deployment of multi-disciplinary socioeconomic 
solutions. Funding will support Tribes in developing and operating 
comprehensive, integrated economic and community development programs.
    In addition to Tiwahe funding, we support increased resources for 
social services, housing, Tribal Court, law enforcement and 
corrections. Homelessness and overcrowding are at all-time highs across 
Indian country. The housing situation on our Reservation is further 
complicated by the drug and mental health crisis we face, as 
eligibility for Tribal housing may be impacted by addiction issues and 
drug and mental health events of one individual may have wide-reaching 
impacts on all members of that individual's household. The average home 
price on our Reservation far exceeds what a typical Tribal family can 
afford with a price tag of $725,000. Increased Federal funds are 
necessary to enable the Tribal government to increase housing 
availability for Tribal members on the Reservation. And importantly, 
housing funding must include the resources for infrastructure to ensure 
all new housing has water, sewer, electricity, and broadband access.
    Social services are critical to the wellbeing of families on the 
Reservation. For example, we provide services that support Tribal 
people in entering into and staying in the workforce, as well as 
parenting programs that help parents acquire the tools and practices of 
good parenting, which in turn helps keep many children out of the 
foster care system.
    Tribal courts are essential to a strong economy and safe 
communities. Our Tribal Court system provides an important venue for 
resolution of conflicts on the Reservation. And our Tribal Defender's 
office is leading several cutting-edge efforts to reduce recidivism 
which include novel approaches to case management and the provision of 
wraparound services like supportive housing. But these efforts need 
additional funding. This is especially the case because the Tribal 
Court system faces additional burdens and significant challenges 
associated with mental health and addiction.
    Similarly, law enforcement and corrections are in dire need of 
additional funding throughout Indian country, especially as opioid and 
other illegal substance use increases as people self-medicate to treat 
mental illness. Most cases handled by our law enforcement and in our 
jail have a substance abuse component.
    In addition, the Tribal Council is facing significant uncertainty 
as the State of Montana and its political subdivisions are anticipated 
to seek retrocession of felony criminal jurisdiction under Public Law 
280 within the next few weeks. If the State is successful in 
withdrawing from its public safety obligations, CSKT will necessarily 
need to assume a dramatic increase in public safety related services. 
Full funding for law enforcement and corrections is imperative if we 
are to adequately police our communities.
    Importantly, if CSKT is required to assume additional public safety 
obligations due to State retrocession, existing infrastructure will be 
wholly inadequate. Our criminal justice programs are spread out among 
different buildings and locations, hindering collaboration. Funding for 
Tribal justice centers with space aligned with the Tribal restorative 
justice values and objectives will be vital in consolidating justice-
related programs, ensuring adequate detention capacity, implementing 
effective treatment programs to address addiction and reduce 
recidivism, and providing vocational and other training and educational 
services to help people to leave the justice system with the ability to 
return to their communities and find meaningful work.
    Natural Resources: Wildland Fire and Aquatic Invasive Species. We 
thank the Committee for recent increases in Federal wildland fire 
appropriations and appreciate continued attention to additional funding 
for future challenges particularly in light of unprecedented drought 
conditions. We also encourage continued support for parity, equity, and 
inclusion of Tribal wildland fire management programs during the Agency 
allocation of these funds. Current criteria limits funding to full-
time, permanent wildland firefighters. However, due to our remote 
location and limited resources we regularly rely on part-time and 
seasonal employees as well as employees with other responsibilities in 
addition to just firefighting to fight fires when they arise.
    CSKT's Division of Fire was stretched to the breaking point during 
with fires in 2021 and 2022 that ravaged our homelands due in large 
part to inadequate infrastructure to support an evolving fire 
landscape. Lack of available space and facilities for permanent and 
emergency personnel and equipment is a problem that has grown 
exponentially over the past few years. With dry conditions expected 
this season we continue to see the critical need for a single engine 
air tanker base facility, personal facilities, vehicle bays for 
engines, and training and assessment facilities.
    We also are keenly concerned with the detection, prevention and 
eradication of invasive species and on the resiliency of our Tribal 
lands. There has been little to no coordinated effort across the 
Columbia River Basin for the protection against the introduction of 
Aquatic Invasive Species (AIS), such as the zebra and quagga mussels. 
Because it only takes one boat to infect an entire watershed, every 
potential vector is a threat to the entire region. It is therefore 
critical to empower local parties who are best suited to guard against 
invasion with additional resources and to build strong partnerships 
throughout the Basin. In our view, Federal monetary support and 
assistance in enhancing coordination are key to adequately protecting 
the vital water resources of the Pacific Northwest. Because of the 
interconnectedness of waterways, protection against AIS is an area 
where Federal funds can match or supplement local efforts in a cost-
effective manner.
    Additionally, and just as importantly, because the Federal Highway 
system is the primary vector for transmission of invasive species, 
including AIS, any robust line of defense against invasive species must 
involve the establishment of permanent check stations on all Federal 
highways in and out of the Columbia Basin. Working in tandem, the 
Transportation and Interior Departments could ensure that traffic is 
safely and efficiently moved into check stations, where watercraft can 
be inspected safely by local staff from Tribes, States, and local 
governments. These check stations could be constructed in conjunction 
with rest areas and weigh stations throughout the Basin.
    CSKT operates a number of programs that defend against the 
introduction of invasive species and mitigate the invasions that have 
already occurred. But funding for our efforts is sparse and 
inconsistent. We must have adequate resources and support for 
coordinated efforts among the various sovereigns in the region.
                    environmental protection agency
    Finally, we thank the Committee for additional resources provided 
in recent cycles for Solid and Hazardous Waste and the Brownfields 
Program. However, we strenuously urge Congress to prioritize adequate 
funding for the Environmental Protection Agency programs for Tribal 
communities. Tribal EPA programs steadily decreased for nearly a decade 
and a half, placing an unreasonable drain on our government and our 
ability to sustain vital programs to monitor, reduce, and prevent 
pollution on our Reservation. The Federal trust responsibility requires 
the United States to ensure the Tribes continue to have a livable 
homeland where pollution levels are safe for people, wildlife, and the 
environment. Without stable funding, CSKT cannot build sustainable and 
effective programs to protect our environment and community.
    Critical programs for protecting the Tribes' permanent homeland 
have seen stagnation or decreases in funding over the past decade or 
so. These critical programs include the Clean Water Act Section 106 
Water Quality Program, the Wetland Program Development Grant program, 
the Clean Air Act Section 103 and Section 105 Air Quality Program, the 
Underground Storage Tanks and Leaking Underground Storage Tanks 
Program, and Tribal Federal Insecticide Fungicide Rodenticide Act 
(``FIFRA'') Program.

    [This statement was submitted by Carole Lankford of the 
Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis 
                              Reservation
    On behalf of the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation 
(the ``Tribe''), thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony to 
the subcommittee. My name is Dustin Klatush, and I serve as the 
Chairman of the Chehalis Business Committee, the governing body of the 
Tribe.
    The Tribe requests that the subcommittee prioritize the need for 
increased funding for the Bureau of Indian Affairs' (BIA) law 
enforcement and Housing Improvement Program (HIP), as well as ensuring 
that the BIA has the necessary staff and processes to make timely 
payments of contract support costs (CSC).
    The Chehalis Reservation was established by Executive Order in 1864 
and is located between the confluence of the Chehalis River and the 
Black River. Geographically, the Tribe is located approximately halfway 
between Seattle and Portland, just off Interstate 5. The Tribe's 5,500-
acre reservation is largely checkerboarded, and spans three different 
counties in southwestern Washington state. The Tribe has approximately 
996 Tribal members, with forty percent of them being under the age of 
eighteen.
                            law enforcement
    The Chehalis Tribal Police Department (PD) carries out law 
enforcement and detention services under a contract with the BIA under 
the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act of 1975. Our 
BIA law enforcement contract allows us to have greater control and 
flexibility in the use of funds, program designs, services, functions, 
and activities, as needed, to address our local public safety and 
justice needs.
    The Tribe's PD has 13 commissioned officers who are certified under 
state law to enforce State and local criminal laws, in addition to 
Chehalis Tribal criminal laws. Currently, the Chehalis PD has two 
vacant positions. According to the BIA Tribal service population model 
for the Scalable Law Enforcement Budget \1\, the Tribe receives funding 
for a full-time basic program. Like most Tribes, however, the BIA 
portion of the Tribe's law enforcement represents a fraction of the 
actual need.
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    \1\ Report to the Congress on Spending, Staffing, and Estimated 
Funding Costs for Public Safety and Justice Programs in Indian Country, 
2020. Bureau of Indian Affairs, Office of Justice Services. March 2023; 
pages 4-5.
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    The Tribe is responsible for more than just its service population. 
The Tribe daily sees an influx of approximately 5,000 to 10,000 
employees and visitors to the Tribe's reservation. As noted above, the 
Tribe's reservation spans 5,500 acres and is checkerboarded with 
parcels up to 20 miles apart. The distance traveled to cover the area 
and reach all parcels is much larger than just the Tribe's land base of 
5,500 acres. The increase in visitor traffic to the reservation and the 
actual distance traveled should justify an increase in BIA law 
enforcement funding, so that the Tribe can hire more officers.
    Most Tribes also need additional resources to assist with the 
recruitment and retention of experienced law enforcement officers. The 
Tribe has lost experienced law enforcement officers to neighboring 
jurisdictions offering more competitive pay and benefits. This 
competition has been amplified by the shortage of officers in 
Washington and the recruiting efforts of neighboring jurisdictions. The 
Tribe currently offers a competitive salary only because it supplements 
the funding it receives from the BIA with significant Tribal funds. 
More BIA law enforcement funding is needed to allow Tribes to be more 
competitive with neighboring jurisdictions.
    In FY 2024, most BIA law enforcement programs received level 
funding compared to the FY 2023 enacted levels. The FY 2025 President's 
Budget Request seeks a $45.5 million increase in Criminal 
Investigations and Police Services, with $33.5 million specifically 
allocated to increase the number of officers and investigators in 
Indian Country. The Tribe is requesting that the subcommittee fund the 
Criminal Investigations and Police Services account with at least the 
FY 2025 requested levels.
                      housing improvement program
    Forty percent of Chehalis Tribal members are under the age of 
eighteen, demonstrating a need for new housing for Tribal members that 
will only become more acute over time. The Chehalis Tribal Housing 
Authority (CTHA), the Tribe's tribally designated housing entity, 
estimates that fifty low-income houses are required to meet the current 
waiting list demand. The CTHA primarily relies on funding from the 
Department of Housing and Urban Development's Indian Housing Block 
(IHBG) grant program.
    The IHBG grant program, however, does not cover all housing-related 
needs. The BIA's HIP program provides funds to Tribal members with 
substandard or no housing and no immediate housing assistance. HIP 
funds can be used for home repair, renovation, replacement, and new 
housing. HIP funds are allocated to BIA area offices based on an 
inventory of housing needs, including the number of units in 
substandard condition and the number of units needing renovation or 
replacement.
    When the Tribe receives HIP funds it provides them to the CTHA. 
Last year, the CTHA used HIP funds to provide plumbing upgrades in nine 
low-income homes. Like most Tribes with unmet housing needs, it could 
use more resources from the HIP program to improve and extend the life 
of its existing housing stock. In FY 2024, the HIP program received 
$11.9 million, which is a $280,000 decrease in funding from the FY 2023 
enacted levels. The President's FY 2025 Budget Request seeks $18 
million for FY 2025. The Tribe requests that the Committee fund the HIP 
program at the requested levels or higher levels.
                         contract support costs
    In the BIA's Northwest Regional Office, there is an acute shortage 
of contracting officers to process various types of transactions, 
including processing payments for CSC. The Tribe is awaiting payment 
for its CSC for fiscal years 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024, which 
collectively amount to more than $4 million. Timely payments of CSCs 
assist in keeping our contracted programs, such as law enforcement, 
housing, and other programs and services, operating smoothly.
    Based on discussions with the BIA, the reason for the delay is the 
shortage of contracting officers in the BIA. We understand that this 
problem is not limited to the Northwest Region but is nationwide. Given 
the backlog in payments that the Tribe (and likely other Tribes) are 
experiencing, the Department should deploy contracting officers from 
other agencies within the Department to assist the BIA in clearing the 
backlog of late CSC and other payments that Tribes are waiting for. We 
request that the Committee include the following language in the report 
that will accompany the FY 2025 bill:

                The Committee is aware that a lack of contracting 
                officers has resulted in a backlog of payments of 
                contract support costs and other types of payments to 
                Tribes, in some cases going back multiple fiscal years. 
                The Committee directs the Department to deploy 
                contracting officers from other bureaus and agencies to 
                the Bureau of Indian Affairs on a short-term basis to 
                assist in resolving this backlog.

    I want to thank the subcommittee for allowing me to provide 
testimony. Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by Dustin Klatush, Chairman, 
Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville 
                              Reservation
    On behalf of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation 
(the ``Colville Tribes'' or the ``CCT''), I thank you for this 
opportunity to provide testimony on the subcommittee's FY 2025 spending 
bill.
    The CCT has three recommendations for the subcommittee's 
consideration:

    (1) Indian Health Service (IHS): The CCT would like the 
subcommittee to include report language directing the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) to investigate and report on IHS's 
management of the Purchased/Referred Care (PRC) program at IHS managed 
facilities, specifically on why IHS has allowed such a large amount of 
carryover PRC funds in most IHS Area Offices.

    (2) Public Safety and Justice: the Colville Tribes has a fraction 
of the number of officers it needs to patrol its 1.4-million-acre 
(2,200 square mile) reservation. The CCT urges the Committee to provide 
a significant increase to the applicable accounts for law enforcement 
officer salaries to enable Tribes nationwide to hire more officers and 
retain the officers that they have.

    (3) Prioritize Tribal Wildland Fire Funding Requests: Approximately 
half of the 1.4-million-acre Colville Reservation has burned due to the 
wildfires during the past decade, yet Tribes routinely must compete for 
resources within DOI for funding from other DOI land management 
agencies. Tribes, on a per acre basis, receive a fraction of what is 
spent on U.S. Forest Service and other Federal lands for forest 
management and wildfire preparedness. The CCT urges the Committee to 
include language that would require DOI to prioritize funding requests 
from Tribes for preparedness and other on-reservation fire prevention 
purposes.
                   background on the colville tribes
    By way of background, although now considered a single Indian 
Tribe, the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation is a 
confederation of 12 aboriginal Tribes and bands from across eastern 
Washington state, northeastern Oregon, Idaho, and British Columbia. The 
present-day Colville Reservation is in north-central Washington state 
and was established by Executive Order in 1872. The Colville 
Reservation covers more than 1.4 million acres and its boundaries 
include portions of both Okanogan and Ferry counties. Geographically, 
the Colville Reservation is larger than the state of Delaware and is 
the largest Indian reservation in the pacific Northwest.
 direct gao to investigate ihs's administration of the prc program at 
                         ihs managed facilities
    The Colville Tribes is a ``direct service'' Tribe, which means that 
IHS provides all health services, from delivery of care to billing, 
using Federal IHS employees. For this reason, IHS has total control 
over the delivery of health care services on the Colville Reservation. 
The Colville Tribes in recent years have endured service delivery 
problems related to IHS's management of the PRC program that have 
directly resulted in Tribal member deaths.
    For an approximately 5-year period that ended in October 2022, the 
Portland Area IHS Office administered the PRC program for the Colville 
Service Unit in using Portland Area Office staff, not local IHS 
employees located on-reservation. Many problems ensued, including the 
following:

  --Onerous documentation requirements not required by the IHS handbook 
        or any other IHS authority were imposed on Colville Tribal 
        members to prove they were eligible for PRC. This meant that 
        Tribal elders, on an annual basis, had to produce utility 
        bills, blood quantum and other proof of Tribal enrollment, and 
        other information not required by the IHS regulations or 
        handbook in order to get referrals for specialty care. Those 
        who were unable to produce this information either went without 
        care or obtained care on their own and subsequently faced 
        collection agencies when IHS refused to pay.

  --During the 5-year period when the Portland Area IHS office 
        administered the CCT's PRC program, thousands of unreconciled 
        PRC purchase orders accumulated that have yet to be closed out. 
        The Colville Tribes estimates that of the $33 million in PRC 
        carryover funds in the IHS Portland Area, as much as $24 
        million is attributable to open PRC purchase orders from the 
        Colville Service Unit.

  --Private health providers have stopped participating in the PRC 
        program and others have informed the CCT that they are 
        considering abandoning it because the administrative 
        difficulties in getting paid for services from IHS is no longer 
        worth it for them.
    IHS has been on GAO's high risk program list since 2017 and it 
would appear that many of the issues that prompted GAO to classify IHS 
as high risk continue on the Colville Reservation. We request that the 
Committee direct GAO to investigate IHS's administration of PRC program 
at IHS managed service units and obtain input from affected Tribal 
governments in the preparation of the report.
                increase funding for bia law enforcement
    There is a constant need for additional funding for Tribal law 
enforcement and detention operations. The CCT requests that the 
Committee provide a $100 million increase for the Criminal 
Investigations and Police Services account to enable Tribes in all BIA 
regions to hire more police officers and retain their existing police 
officers.
    As the Committee is aware, large land-based Tribes often lack a 
sufficient number of Tribal police officers. This often results in 
police response times in excess of four hours. There are occasions when 
the Colville Tribes has only a single officer on duty for the entire 
1.4-million-acre Colville Reservation.
    Collectively, the Colville PD has a 30 percent vacancy rate for 
both commissioned and non-commissioned officer positions. Nationwide, 
BIA law enforcement is funded at only a fraction of the actual need. 
Recruitment and retention remain acute issues even with the Colville 
Tribes supplementing the BIA funding allocation by more than 200 
percent annually.
 include report language directing the secretary to prioritize tribal 
            requests for wildland fire preparedness funding
    The Colville Tribes suggests that the subcommittee include language 
in its FY 2025 spending bill that directs the Secretary of the Interior 
to prioritize Tribal requests for preparedness funding from the 
Wildland Fire Management Account. During the past decade, more than 
half of the 1.4 million acre Colville Reservation has burned in 
wildfire events and the CCT has been at the forefront of recommending 
policy changes to enable the Colville Tribes and similarly situated 
Tribes to protect their on-reservation forests.
    Tribal forest managers are in the best position to assess the 
danger and risk to on-reservation Tribal forests. Tribes rely on their 
forest resources for many uses and purposes, including economic 
development, and have a motivation to protect them from wildfires that 
distinguishes them from other Federal land managers. If Tribes are able 
to receive preparedness funds quickly and without having to navigate 
bureaucratic red tape, they can prevent fire events from becoming 
massive wildfires.
    Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions. Thank 
you again for the opportunity to provide this testimony.

    [This statement was submitted by the Confederated Tribes of the 
Colville Reservation.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Cooperative Alliance for Refuge Enhancement
    The following members of the Cooperative Alliance for Refuge 
Enhancement urge Congress to allocate at least $602.3 million in 
funding for the National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and 
Maintenance account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS). This funding is necessary for the Refuge System to effectively 
fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for wildlife-
dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature.
    Since 1995, the Cooperative Alliance for Refuge Enhancement (CARE) 
has worked to showcase the value of the Refuge System and to secure a 
strong congressional commitment to conserving these special landscapes. 
The CARE members listed below have endorsed this testimony and our 
request to your subcommittee. We represent millions of users of the 
National Wildlife Refuge System-wildlife watchers, hunters, anglers, 
wildlife professionals and conservationists, and Refuge Friends 
members.

American Birding Association
American Fisheries Society
Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies
Backcountry Hunters & Anglers
Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation
Defenders of Wildlife
Ducks Unlimited, Inc.
Izaak Walton League of America
Marine Conservation Institute
National Audubon Society
National Wildlife Federation
National Wildlife Refuge Association
Safari Club International
The Nature Conservancy
The Corps Network
The Wilderness Society
The Wildlife Society
Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership Trout Unlimited
Wildlife Forever
Wildlife Management Institute

    The National Wildlife Refuge System is the world's largest network 
of lands and waters dedicated to wildlife conservation, and the only 
set of Federal lands in the Nation set aside for the management of 
America's native wildlife. Found in every U.S. state and territory, 
national wildlife refuges conserve a diversity of America's 
environmentally sensitive and vital ecosystems, including wetlands, 
coasts, forests, prairie, tundra, deserts, and oceans. These public 
lands and waters are important recreational and tourism destinations in 
communities across the United States, and offer a variety of 
recreational opportunities, including sustainable hunting and fishing, 
wildlife observation, photography, and environmental education and 
interpretation.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7 percent 
since FY2010 and currently sits at $527 million, or $5.55 per land 
acre. In today's dollars, the appropriations allocated in FY2010 
equates to approximately $765 million. Because funding has not kept up 
with inflation, accounted for annual fixed costs, or correlated with 
the growth and increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the 
Refuge System budget has effectively decreased. This has led to 
unsustainably low staffing levels and lost capacity.
    Our request of at least $602.3 million for the Refuge System 
represents a needed increase over FY2024 funding levels and will help 
secure a strong future for the Refuge System, but more needs to be 
done. To achieve a fully funded and effective Refuge System, an annual 
budget of at least $2.2 billion is needed to provide for its basic 
needs, meet mandates and public demand, and ensure commensurate 
staffing of other similarly sized public lands systems. This request is 
an important step towards that goal and we urge Congress to make 
significant investments in these treasured public lands and waters.
                          staffing challenges
    At its peak, staffing levels exceeded 3,240 employees across the 
Refuge System. The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a 
fraction of the other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-
has decreased by 27 percent since FY2011. This has made it difficult 
for the Refuge System to manage its vast network of lands and waters 
and to fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and habitats.
    The insufficient funding and capacity impacts are felt System-wide, 
impacting conservation planning, wildlife and habitat management, 
visitor services, law enforcement, and maintenance. No refuges are 
fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero staff on site. 
Multiple refuges have been closed to the public and are completely 
unmanaged. Many employees must manage multiple wildlife refuge units, 
sometimes traveling hundreds of miles per day.
    Rising fixed costs are also eating into annual appropriations. It 
costs the refuge system an estimated $3 million for every one percent 
raise in payroll costs. Without base increases in the budget to cover 
these fixed costs, several much-needed positions are eliminated every 
year.
                          impacts to visitors
    The Refuge System has grown significantly since FY 2010, adding 21 
new refuge units and 549 million submerged marine acres, opening 6 
million acres for hunting and fishing, and visitation has grown to over 
68 million annual visitors-an increase of 47 percent since FY2011. 
While this growth has enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the 
communities around refuges, it has also put more pressure on the 
already stressed and underfunded System that provides vital wildlife 
habitat and important services to hunters, anglers, birders, and other 
nature enthusiasts.
    Visitor Services staff has decreased by 25 percent since FY10 
despite the increase in visitorship. Nearly all of the Refuge System's 
125 visitor centers operate on limited hours, with some centers 
completely closed, and none would function without volunteers. However, 
many volunteer programs have been cut back or eliminated due to a lack 
of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure. In 
2023, there were 48 percent fewer volunteers than in 2016.
    The Refuge System has a large deferred maintenance backlog of $2.65 
billion, with most structures near or past the end of their maximum 
useful life spans, such as buildings, roads, bridges, and trails. As 
the Refuge System has opened additional acres for hunting and fishing, 
there has not been an equivalent increase in funding to improve 
habitat, maintain necessary infrastructure like blinds, boat launches, 
piers, parking lots, and restrooms, or support popular hunting and 
fishing programs for youth and serve people with disabilities, 
veterans, seniors, and others.
    Public safety has also been jeopardized due to budget shortfalls, 
impacting both visitors and wildlife. As of February 2024, the Refuge 
System has the lowest number of law enforcement officers in over 10 
years while simultaneously seeing its highest visitation and crime 
rates in its history. Currently, seven States have no officers 
stationed within their boundaries (CT, DE, IA, MI, NH, OH, VT), and 
nine States with just one officer (GA, Guam, HI, IN, KY, PA, PR, RI, 
WY). Increased funding is needed to improve visitor access, public 
safety, and wildlife protection.
                      impacts on fish and wildlife
    The limited staffing capacity has several negative impacts on the 
ecological health of the Refuge System. Due to capacity issues, only 27 
percent, or 379 of the 1,364 threatened and endangered populations 
occurring on refuges, are monitored. This leads to compromised adaptive 
management capability, inability to manage invasive species, the 
destruction of native habitat, and the potential loss of more species. 
With current resources, USFWS can only successfully control 7 percent 
of 3.3 million acres of lands infested with non-native species, which 
has increased 30 percent since 2005. USFWS also has extremely limited 
capacity to effectively manage the Refuge System's millions of marine 
acres and 100 coastal and marine units.
    Significant progress has been made in the early detection and rapid 
response against newly introduced invasive species on Refuge System 
lands thanks to the expansion of invasive species strike teams. Now up 
to 21 teams, this program eradicates and prevents the spread of 
invasive species on the Refuge System and nearby public and private 
lands, protecting natural resources for adjoining communities. For 
example, nutria has successfully been eradicated from the Delmarva 
Peninsula through this work in partnership with other agencies, which 
is helping to build resiliency against sea-level rise in impacted 
counties of the Chesapeake Bay. Funding for wildlife and habitat 
management activities is desperately needed to deal with longer-term 
invasive species management challenges. Without funding to enhance and 
apply prevention measures, new threats will emerge and known invasive 
species such as phragmites, kudzu, quagga mussels, purple loosestrife, 
feral hogs, and invasive carps will continue their spread throughout 
the Refuge System.
    By law, refuges must update their Comprehensive Conservation Plan 
(CCP) every 15 years. Up-to-date management plans ensure that each 
wildlife refuge can be adaptable to present and upcoming needs, from a 
changing climate and extreme weather events like wildfires to rising 
recreational visitors and commercial uses. However, over 60 percent of 
CCPs have become out-of-date or were never finalized, which severely 
limits landscape-level planning and adaptability to changing 
conditions. With an increased planning budget, refuges could modernize 
and update these important management plans that help them reach their 
conservation goals.
                          the need for action
    Without a necessary increase in funding for the Refuge System, we 
anticipate further impacts both within and outside of refuge 
boundaries. These impacts could include more closures of visitor 
centers, elimination of environmental education programs for schools, 
reduced habitat quality, diminished hunting and fishing opportunities, 
reduced invasive species management on refuge lands and nearby private 
lands, and reduced capacity for prescribed fire, which is an important 
tool to improve wildlife habitat and to reduce hazardous fuels.
    The common denominator to all these challenges is a lack of 
funding. Adequate staffing and funding are critical to the maintenance 
of healthy wildlife populations and access for recreational users to 
healthy ecosystems. Increasing funding for the Refuge System will 
empower and enable individual refuge units to deliver on-the-ground 
conservation that benefits wildlife and local communities across the 
Nation. We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address 
these overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is 
equipped to effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and 
visitorship that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System.
    On behalf of our more than 16 million members and supporters, CARE 
thanks the subcommittee for the opportunity to submit comments on the 
FY2025 Senate Interior Appropriations bill. Thank you for considering 
our request of at least $602.3 million for the National Wildlife Refuge 
System in FY2025. Please contact Libby Marking at 
lmarking@refugeassociation.org for additional information.

    [This statement was submitted by the Cooperative Alliance for 
Refuge Enhancement.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Council of Infrastructure Financing 
                              Authorities
    The Council of Infrastructure Financing Authorities (CIFA) 
represents the Clean Water and Drinking Water State Revolving Funds 
(SRFs), the Nation's premier programs for funding water infrastructure 
that protects public health. The SRFs are state-run programs that 
provide subsidized loans to build infrastructure that provides safe 
drinking water, recycled water for multiple purposes, wastewater 
treatment, stormwater management and environmental restoration and 
protection.

    Requests from the Clean Water and Drinking Water SRFs:

  --Fund both SRFs to congressionally authorized levels of $3.25 
        billion each.

  --Fund congressional earmarks separately from the SRFs.

  --Eliminate duplicative mandates for additional subsidy (grants and 
        principal forgiveness).

  --Eliminate the outdated mandate for green infrastructure.

  --Protect public health.

    Fully funding the SRFs at $3.25 billion each is a conservative and 
economical investment in water infrastructure. Stable, routine 
investment in water infrastructure is the single greatest factor in 
averting life-threatening and costly water crises in communities across 
the Nation.
                    maintain affordable water bills
    The SRFs provide loans at below market rates, which can cut 
interest payments by as much as 75% compared to a municipal bond or 
private financing. These savings alleviate the pressure on utilities to 
raise rates on water bills, which has a direct impact on family 
budgets.
            meet the growing demand for affordable financing
    Increased Federal funding of the SRFs is needed to meet the growing 
demand for SRF subsidized loans, which has skyrocketed due to the 
increased cost of planning, design, construction and financing.

  --According to the results of the 7th Drinking Water Needs Survey, 
        America needs to invest $625 billion over the next 20 years to 
        provide safe drinking water to communities across the Nation, a 
        32% increase from previous assessment.

  --According to the recently released results of the Clean Watershed 
        Needs Survey, America needs to invest $630.1 billion over the 
        next 20 years in clean water infrastructure--55% for wastewater 
        infrastructure, 18% for stormwater infrastructure, 15% for 
        nonpoint source control and 12% for decentralized systems.

  --Complying with more stringent water quality standards requires new 
        investments in sophisticated and often expensive treatment 
        technologies.

  --While historic inflation has ebbed, the cost of planning, design 
        and construction remains well above pre-pandemic levels, 
        particularly in rural communities that can least afford it.

  --Higher construction costs are compounded by higher financing costs 
        from rising interest rates on the municipal market. The cost of 
        borrowing has become a barrier to needed investment in water 
        infrastructure.

                    strengthen fiscal responsibility
    Increasing Federal funding for the SRFs is a fiscally responsible 
approach to funding water infrastructure. Federal funding used for 
subsidized loans creates a perpetual, renewable source of revenue to 
meet the never-ending need to rehabilitate, replace and modernize aging 
infrastructure. Loan repayments are funding water infrastructure 
projects that may never have been built if the SRFs were established as 
a traditional Federal grant program.
                      restore financial integrity
    Unfortunately, Congress is systematically turning the SRFs, which 
have been successful, sustainable, state-run loan programs, into a 
massive Federal grant program. Over the last 3 years, Congress has 
diverted $3.73 billion in Federal funding from the SRFs to pay for 
congressional earmarks which are 100% grants. Congress has also 
mandated that the SRFs use another $1 billion of annual Federal funding 
for principal forgiveness or grants instead of subsidized loans. As a 
result, more than 55% of recent annual Federal funding for the SRFs 
will be used one time for one project in one community, rather than 
over and over for multiple projects in perpetuity.
                          fund the srfs first
    Congress can restore financial integrity to the SRFs by funding the 
programs first, then funding congressional earmarks in addition to the 
SRFs. Using the SRF capitalization to pay for congressional earmarks 
may be convenient, but it is inconsistent with the goals of the SRFs, 
one of which is to provide a long-term, cost-effective and sustainable 
strategy for rehabilitating, replacing and modernizing aging 
infrastructure to protect public health and the environment.

  --First, congressional earmarks are grants, not loans. Giving away a 
        majority of annual Federal funding as grants diminishes the 
        long-term lending power of the SRFs.

  --Second, SRF projects must be prioritized based on risk to human 
        health, environmental protection and affordability. It's 
        unclear how congressional earmarks are selected.

  --Third, congressional earmarks redistribute the allotment of Federal 
        funding, which is established by Federal law. Congressional 
        earmarks don't offset cuts to programmatic funding for the 
        SRFs. In fact, nearly all States have experienced a net loss of 
        Federal funding for water infrastructure (SRF funding plus 
        congressional earmarks) since Congress began using the SRF 
        capitalization grant to pay for congressional earmarks.
           sunset the duplicative mandate for ``free money''
    For more than a decade, annual appropriations bills have required 
the SRFs to provide a portion of annual Federal funding as principal 
forgiveness or grants. For the last 3 years, Congress has maintained 
these Federal mandates, despite duplicative Federal mandates being 
enacted in Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). Since then, 
the Federal mandate for the Clean Water SRFs doubled from 10% to 20% 
and the Federal mandate for the Drinking Water SRF increased from 20% 
to 26%.
    Sunsetting the duplicative Federal mandates won't end financial 
assistance for communities that need help. The Clean Water Act and Safe 
Drinking Water Act provide flexibility for the SRFs to use up to one-
third of their annual Federal funding to help communities that couldn't 
otherwise afford to build a water infrastructure project. Additionally, 
most States have more generous and flexible assistance programs to 
support small, rural and economically disadvantaged communities.
restore autonomy for prioritization of srf-funded water infrastructure 
                                projects
    For more than a decade, Congress has required the SRFs to allocate 
10% of annual Federal funding to build ``green'' water infrastructure 
projects as determined by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. 
While well-intentioned, this Federal mandate can have the unintended 
consequence of diverting annual Federal funding from water 
infrastructure projects that may provide greater protection for public 
health and the environment.
    Sunsetting this Federal mandate is unlikely to impact investment in 
``green'' projects. Green projects are the norm today, growing 
substantially over the last 10 years because of the need for resilient 
and sustainable solutions, demand by consumers, and cost-savings. 
Perhaps most importantly, many communities have adopted a more 
integrated and holistic approach, incorporating ``green'' components 
into every project rather than treating a green project as a separate 
special project.
       fund state programs that support infrastructure investment
    The Public Water System Supervision Grants and Water Pollution 
Control (Section 106) Grants play an integral role in building 
infrastructure projects that protect water quality and public health. 
Without increased Federal funding for these programs, States may not 
have adequate resources to process permit applications and conduct 
other fundamental obligations for drinking water and wastewater 
infrastructure projects.

    [This statement was submitted by the Council of Infrastructure 
Financing Authorities (CIFA).]
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      Prepared Statement of Detroit International Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the nonprofit 
``friends group'' that supports the Detroit International Wildlife 
Refuge (DRIWR). We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on the 
fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request Congress 
to allocate $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge 
System Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish 
and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Since 2001 the Detroit River International Wildlife Refuge has 
existed as the only international refuge in North America and proudly 
stands as one of only 14 priority urban refuges in the Nation with the 
distinct responsibility to bring conservation to cities. Stretching 
from southwest Detroit to the Ohio-Michigan border, the refuge 
highlights a remarkable 48 miles of shoreline. With over 6,000.00 acres 
of land under the careful watch of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service 
priorities such as conserving, protecting and restoring habitats for 
birds, fish and plants are a reality.
    To further the necessary work of the DRIWR a dedicated group of 
individuals came together in 2005 to form the nonprofit ``friends 
group'' known as the International Wildlife Refuge Alliance (IWRA). 
Nearly 20 years later the Alliance's mission ``to support the first 
International Wildlife Refuge in North America by working through 
partnerships to protect, conserve and manage the Refuge's wildlife and 
habitats, and to create exceptional conservation, recreational and 
educational experiences to develop the next generation of conservation 
steward.'' remains our prime focus.
    Now in its 23rd year, the refuge continues to conserve, protect, 
and restore habitats for the many fish, birds, animals, and plants 
thriving on the refuge, while also serving an equally important role of 
providing physical, mental and emotional support to the tens of 
thousands of visitors each year. The LEED-certified visitor center was 
designed and built to provide visitors of all ages and backgrounds the 
opportunity to experience a hands-on environmental and interpretive 
conservation adventure. The interpretive trails, learning stations and 
wildlife observation decks throughout the refuge invite individuals and 
families to explore, learn and embrace nature. For a truly unique 
opportunity, visitors can enjoy a casual stroll or the excitement only 
fishing can create on our 740-foot fishing pier, providing experienced 
or first-time anglers access to some of the Nation's finest fishing.
    With fewer individuals DRIWR Staff will be required to do more to 
maintain the level of service the Refuge System and visitors have come 
to expect. In 2023, more than 180,000 people visited the DRIWR and over 
18,600 visitors enjoyed the hands-on experience provided when entering 
the John D. Dingell Visitor Center. After only 4 months in 2024 both 
total refuge visitations and specifically visitor center visitations 
are on pace to far exceed the total numbers of 2023. We continue to ask 
our Refuge staff to focus on designing programs, creating habitat, 
increasing outreach while cutting their funding. How can we expect 
their devotion, passion, and commitment to the service and those they 
serve to remain at the highest level when our words say ``continue to 
serve and give more'' while our actions say ``your service isn't 
valued'' when we cut funding.
    The DRIWR staff is comprised of dedicated individuals who give of 
their time, energy, knowledge, and passion to provide each visitor the 
opportunity to learn, explore, and grow as individuals and 
conservationists. To support the wonderful work of refuge staff the 
IWRA's Nature Store Manager, board members and volunteers help operate 
the Nature Store within the refuge visitor center, provide some 
volunteer staff to outreach events, and assist park rangers during 
field trips and classroom activities. IWRA's Executive Director is 
instrumental in researching and applying for grants, creating 
sponsorships, and collaborating with donors to support large and small 
projects on the refuge. IWRA's board continues to explore opportunities 
to build new partnerships, strengthen relationships, and work with 
local organizations and agencies to encourage and actively create an 
inclusive environment enjoyed by all visitors.
    Since 2010 the overall Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units 
and 549 million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for 
hunting and fishing, and has seen visitation grow to over 68 million 
annual visitors-an increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these 
additions have enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities 
around these refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the 
already stressed and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere $0.62 
(or 62 cents) per acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual 
fixed costs, and increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the 
Refuge System budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    The Refuge system is forced to reduce the workforce necessary to 
adequately run each of the refuges, which creates fewer opportunities 
to fully implement the worthwhile and necessary programs and 
educational experiences required to reduce barriers and create 
inclusive programs for all visitors.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Gary R. Kirsh, the Chairperson of the International Wildlife Refuge 
Alliance, the ``friends group'' of the Detroit River International 
Wildlife Refuge at 1-586-707-5773.

    [This statement was submitted by Gary R. Kirsh, Chairperson, 
International Wildlife Refuge Alliance.]
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        Prepared Statement of ``Ding'' Darling Wildlife Society
    I submit this testimony on behalf of the ``Ding'' Darling Wildlife 
Society, the non-profit friends group supporting the J.N. ``Ding'' 
Darling National Wildlife Refuge Complex located on Sanibel Island, 
Florida, and its thousands of members who love this Refuge and the 
entire National Wildlife Refuge system.
    It is an honor to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 
Interior Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate a minimum 
of $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Before Covid-19, the J.N. ``Ding'' Darling National Wildlife Refuge 
welcomed more than a million annual visitors from around the world. It 
gave the refuge staff, volunteers and friends group the opportunity to 
educate and inspire these visitors about the importance of protecting 
our natural lands and having them available to both the wildlife and to 
each and every one of us. The refuge has been in existence for nearly 
80 years and the friends group since 1982.
    With the mission to ``Protect, Educate and Inspire'', the ``Ding'' 
Darling Wildlife Society (DDWS) worked for more than 40 years 
supporting the Refuge and its staff. We see the challenges that the 
small staff faces daily in accomplishing the conservation work 
necessary to maintain a refuge the size of ``Ding'' Darling and it is 
our mission to help fill in the gaps where Federal funding has fallen 
short. But it is not enough.
    Wildlife Refuges around the country not only foster a deeper 
connection between people and nature, but also generate significant 
economic benefits for the communities and surrounding areas in which 
they are located. By allowing visitors to explore these natural 
habitats, wildlife refuges promote environmental education, 
conservation awareness, and appreciation for biodiversity. Moreover, 
increased eco-tourism to these areas stimulates local economies through 
spending on lodging, dining, and recreational activities, thereby 
creating job opportunities and supporting small businesses.
    To understand the significance of funding for the National Refuge 
System, it is important to understand how the system has grown in both 
size and visitors. Since 2010, the Refuge System has added 21 new 
refuge units and 549 million submerged marine acres and opened 6 
million acres for hunting and fishing. Visitation has grown to over 68 
million annual visitors--an increase of 47 percent since 2011. While we 
all celebrate this growth and the benefits to the communities, it also 
puts considerable added pressure on the already under-funded Refuge 
System and its dedicated staff.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by only 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When you add in water 
acres, that becomes a mere .62 per acre. Then when you consider the 
level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and increased needs of the 
Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System's real time budget has 
decreased even more significantly. We simply cannot operate a system as 
important as this on a shoestring budget like that.
    The number of full-time Refuge employees (FTEs) -already a fraction 
of the other comparable Federal land agencies at merely 2,500 FTEs-has 
decreased by 16% since FY2010. At ``Ding'' Darling, the refuge staff 
has decreased by nearly 50% over the last 20 years. This makes it 
almost impossible for the Refuge System to manage its vast network of 
lands and waters and to fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and 
habitats, as well as educating the public on the importance of 
conservation.
    The impacts of insufficient funding and increased capacity are felt 
here at the J.N. ``Ding'' Darling National Wildlife Refuge and 
throughout the entire Refuge System. The funding shortage impacts 
conservation planning, wildlife and habitat management, visitor 
services, law enforcement, and overall maintenance. Just like ``Ding'' 
Darling, none of the other refuges in the country are fully staffed, 
and more than half of the refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple 
refuges have been closed to the public and are completely unmanaged, 
due to the lack of funding. In addition, many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day in their jobs. Many volunteer programs have been cut back or 
eliminated due to a lack of supervision from professional staff or 
necessary infrastructure.
    We ask Congress to fully fund the US Fish and Wildlife Service and 
its national wildlife refuge system to safeguard America's rich 
biodiversity, preserve critical habitats, protect imperiled species, 
and inspire millions of people. Adequate funding enables the US Fish 
and Wildlife Service to effectively manage and conserve diverse 
ecosystems and ensure their resilience. The national wildlife refuge 
system provides invaluable opportunities for outdoor recreation, 
wildlife observation, and education, benefiting millions of visitors 
each year and fostering a deeper appreciation for the natural world. It 
deserves adequate funding.
    By investing in the US Fish and Wildlife Service and its refuge 
system, Congress not only ensures the long-term health of ecosystems 
and wildlife populations but also promotes sustainable use of natural 
resources and supports local economies through tourism and recreation-
related revenue. Ultimately, the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 
billion in annual appropriations to effectively fulfill its 
conservation mission, provide opportunities for wildlife-dependent 
recreation, and connect communities to nature. The President's FY2025 
Budget Request of $602.3 million, while considerably short of the 
ultimate need, is an important step toward that goal and is what we ask 
you to support.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me directly or our Executive Director, Ann-Marie Wildman at 
wildman@dingdarlingsociety.org.

    [This statement was submitted by William H. Harkey, Board 
President, ``Ding'' Darling Wildlife Society.]
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              Prepared Statement of Defenders of Wildlife
    Mister Chairman, Ranking Member and Members of the subcommittee, 
thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony. I am Mary Beth 
Beetham, Director of Legislative Affairs at Defenders of Wildlife. 
Founded in 1947, Defenders has nearly 2.2 million members and 
supporters and is dedicated to the conservation of wild animals and 
plants in their natural communities.
    Biodiversity is in crisis on a global scale. Numerous scientific 
studies in the last several years have raised the alarm about this 
crisis. A landmark 2019 study \1\ compiled by hundreds of the world's 
leading scientists found that about one million species are facing 
extinction. In February 2023, a new study \2\ found that 40% of animals 
and 34% of plants in the United States are at risk of extinction, while 
41% of ecosystems are facing collapse. The health of wildlife and 
ecosystems is directly related to human health--healthy ecosystems 
support clean water, clean air, and pollination, on which we all 
depend. The 2024 World Economic Forum Global Risks report continues to 
find that biodiversity loss and ecosystem collapse is one of the 
fastest growing global risks, ranking as third most severe over the 
next 10 years after extreme weather events and change to Earth's 
systems.\3\
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    \1\ Diaz, S., J. Settele, E. S. Brondizio, et al. 2019. ``Summary 
for Policymakers of the Global Assessment Report on Biodiversity and 
Ecosystem Services of the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on 
Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services.''
    \2\ NatureServe. 2023. Biodiversity in Focus: United States 
Edition.
    \3\ World Economic Forum Global Risks Report 2024
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    The biodiversity crisis cannot be addressed without funding--more 
than 1,900 scientists previously signed a letter \4\ published in the 
journal Science which asked Congress to fully fund conservation 
programs to protect biodiversity, including the Endangered Species Act 
(ESA). We were extremely disappointed with the funding cuts in the 
final FY 2024 bill. Given the scale of the catastrophe facing the 
planet's wildlife, significant increases, not cuts, are needed in every 
area.
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    \4\ Malcom, J et al. 2019. ``Solve the biodiversity crisis with 
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    Defenders very much appreciates the removal from the final FY 2024 
appropriations bill of all the new riders in the House version of the 
bill that would have undermined the ESA, including protections for 
individual species, and would have blocked other key wildlife 
conservation efforts. However, we are deeply disturbed that the final 
bill once again included the longstanding prohibition on protecting the 
sage-grouse under the ESA that has been in the bill since 2014. We urge 
the subcommittee to remove the sage-grouse rider from the FY 2025 bill 
and to reject all such riders that undermine the ESA and protections 
for wildlife.
                       fish and wildlife service
    The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) is our Nation's premier 
wildlife conservation agency. To address the biodiversity crisis, the 
agency needs additional increases to support recovery of threatened and 
endangered species; protect migratory birds and fish, species of global 
conservation concern and other trust species; and prevent domestic and 
international wildlife crimes.
    Ecological Services--Defenders is part of a coalition of more than 
115 organizations requesting a significant infusion of funds into the 
Ecological Services program to begin to address the biodiversity 
crisis. We very much appreciate the $338.1 million in the president's 
request, but the need is far greater. Based on available data on the 
needs and costs for ESA implementation by FWS across its programs, as 
well as inflation adjustment, our recommendation is $735.6 million, or 
$447.3 million more than the FY 2024 level:

  --Listing: There are approximately 200 species on the FWS National 
        Listing Workplan for FY 2022-FY 2027 that must be reviewed for 
        protections under the ESA, with more species petitioned for 
        protection every year. For FWS to meet this obligation, a total 
        of $70.1 million is needed annually, an increase of $48.1 
        million.

  --Recovery: Of the more than 1,600 listed U.S. species, more than 
        1,200 have no recovery plans or have plans that are at least a 
        decade old and that may no longer contain current scientific 
        information, especially related to climate change. Hundreds of 
        listed species receive less than $1,000 per year for recovery 
        and many receive no FWS funding at all. Congress should provide 
        a minimum of $101,000 per year per species for recovery. For 
        FWS to meet its obligations under the recovery budget, a total 
        of at least $469.4 million is needed annually, an increase of 
        $358.9 million.

  --Planning and Consultation: FWS conducts ESA Section 7 consultations 
        on more than 10,000 Federal actions each year so that projects 
        can move forward while minimizing harm to listed species. The 
        agency also has significantly increased obligations under the 
        Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). To meet these 
        needs and to continue development and expansion of the web-
        based Information for Planning and Consultation (IPaC) system, 
        work with other agencies to develop proactive recovery plans 
        under ESA Sec. 7(a)(1), monitor ESA compliance and work with 
        non-federal stakeholders to develop Habitat Conservation Plans, 
        $185.6 million is needed annually, an increase of $67.4 
        million.

  --Conservation and Restoration: A total of $10.5 million per year, a 
        $4 million decrease is sufficient for the Candidate 
        Conservation element of Conservation and Restoration to assist 
        with early conservation action on the current 23 candidate 
        species.

  --Wolf Livestock Loss Demonstration Program: Defenders urges 
        continued funding at no less than $1 million for this program 
        that assists livestock owners co-existing with wolves.

    National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance--A key 
component of addressing the biodiversity crisis in the U.S. is to 
refocus Federal land management on it. Our National Wildlife Refuge 
System is the largest network of public lands and waters in the world 
dedicated to wildlife conservation. Since 2010, the System has added 2 
million land acres, 18 national wildlife refuges, and 600 million acres 
of Marine National Monuments, has experienced a 46 percent increase in 
visitation, and has worked to significantly expand its urban refuge 
program in historically excluded communities. Despite its growing 
responsibilities, the System has lost 27 percent of its staff since 
2010. Appropriations during that time have not kept pace with 
inflation, even in years when there has been a modest increase in 
funding. The $527 million provided for the System in the FY 2024 bill, 
a decrease of $14.5 million from FY 2023, will leave it even further 
below the FY 2010 inflation adjusted level of roughly $735 million. 
Defenders recommends $2.2 billion, an increase of $1.7 billion, which 
is needed for the System to meet its mission.
    Partners for Fish and Wildlife--Defenders supports the $68.1 
million in the president's request, an increase of $9.1 million, to 
address a backlog of applications and fund practices that could restore 
tens of thousands of land acres and stream miles on private land. We 
urge inclusion of report language directing continued prioritization of 
projects that connect, enlarge, and buffer national wildlife refuges.
    Migratory Bird Management--In North America nearly 3 billion birds 
have disappeared since 1970 and the only group to not suffer severe 
declines was waterbirds that has received substantial funding over the 
decades.\5\ The administration is currently working to develop 
regulations to govern incidental take under the Migratory Bird Treaty 
Act following the restoration of previously weakened MBTA protections. 
We are extremely pleased with the $73.1 million in the request, an 
increase of $19.9 million, to support crucial survey and monitoring 
programs, to build resilience of bird species and their habitats, to 
help support development of proposed regulations under the MBTA, and to 
support Urban Treaties intended to create bird-safe environments in 
cities.
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    \5\ Rosenberg, L. V. et al. 2019. ``Decline of the North American 
avifauna.'' Science 366 (6461): 120-124.
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    Office of Law Enforcement (OLE) and International Affairs (IA)--For 
OLE, we support the $110.7 million in the request, an increase of $18.8 
million, to help OLE continue to address the crisis in the illegal 
global wildlife trade and the threat of zoonotic diseases. For IA, we 
support $31 million, an increase of $2.4 million, crucial in continuing 
to combat the illegal wildlife trade and to build capacity in range 
countries.
    ePermits--We support the consolidation of the multi-program 
ePermits system into one subactivity at a funding level of $13.5 
million as included in the request. Defenders is hopeful that this 
consolidation will lead to improved oversight, compliance, and 
transparency. This funding also should support the provision of 
information on permit applications and issuances to the public.
    Science Applications--We support the request of $37.9 million, an 
increase of $4.1 million, to maintain and enhance partnerships and 
habitat strategies focused on biodiversity, adaptation, and resilience.
    Key grant programs--We support: $121.8 million for the Cooperative 
Endangered Species Fund, an increase of $67.2 million; $10 million for 
the Neotropical Migratory Bird Fund, an increase of $5 million; and $30 
million for the Multinational Species Conservation Fund, an increase of 
$9.5 million.
            u.s forest service and bureau of land management
    The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the U.S. Forest Service 
(FS) manage close to 20 percent of the country's land base, providing 
habitat for hundreds of species listed under the ESA and thousands of 
sensitive species. These agencies have long been deprived of the 
funding they need to adequately conserve and recover imperiled species. 
Proactive investments to recover at-risk species can prevent the need 
for listing under the ESA. Likewise, recovery actions help listed 
species reach the point where they can eventually be delisted. Given 
the enormity, urgency, and complexity of the extinction crisis and the 
importance of Federal public lands, continued increases are still 
needed for programs listed below to help prevent species' extinctions 
and restore resilient native ecosystems.
    FS Threatened, Endangered and Sensitive (TES) Species--We request 
$23 million for the TES Program and re-establishment of the TES budget 
line item under Wildlife and Fisheries Habitat Management (WFHM). Based 
on cost estimates in ESA recovery plans, FS would need to spend roughly 
twice the requested amount annually to meet its responsibility to help 
recover the over 400 listed plant and animal listed species on FS-
administered lands. This request should also be reflected in top-line 
increases for WFHM to ensure that increased capacity for TES does not 
detract from WFHM's other mission-critical functions, including 
``keeping common species common.''
    FS Land Management Planning, Assessment and Monitoring--We request 
$32 million, an increase of $17.5 million, for planning, assessment, 
and monitoring. Land management plans provide the blueprints for how 
national forest and grassland natural resources are to be utilized and 
sustained for 10-15 year periods. Close to half of all land management 
plans are over 15 years old and not reflective of current science and 
conditions. Increased funding is necessary to ramp up revisions and 
amendments. The 2012 planning rule requires that plans advance 
threatened and endangered species recovery and adaptations to climate 
change. Outdated plans cannot provide adequate guidance for managing 
projects and activities in the era of climate change and unprecedented 
biodiversity loss.
    BLM Plant Conservation and Restoration--Defenders supports $34.7 
million, an increase of $14.1 million, for BLM, in coordination with 
other agencies, to support rare plants conservation and operationalize 
recent National Academy of Sciences (NAS) recommendations \6\ for 
providing a reliable supply of native seeds necessary for ecological 
restoration and climate resilience. NAS warned that insufficient 
supplies of native seeds and plant materials are a major barrier to 
ecological restoration and revegetation and that ``substantial inter-
institutional commitment...at a much more intensive and expansive level 
than is currently underway'' is needed. We also urge establishment of 
the program as its own activity given its substantial responsibilities 
and importance to many Bureau programs.
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    \6\ National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 
2023. An Assessment of Native Seed Needs and the Capacity for Their 
Supply: Final Report. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. 
https://doi.org/10.17226/26618.
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    BLM Threatened and Endangered (T&E) Species--Defenders recommends 
$38.5 million, an increase of $4.5 million, and elevation of the 
program to its own subactivity to meet its obligations to help recover 
the over 300 listed species that occur on public lands. This increase 
should be reflected in top-line increases for Wildlife Habitat 
Management (WHM) to ensure that increased capacity for T&E does not 
detract from WHM's other mission-critical functions.
    BLM Wildlife Habitat Management (WHM)--Defenders supports $162 
million, an increase of $19 million and $8.6 million above the 
president's budget. This amount will help offset both recent needed 
increases in nested programs that were not reflected in increases in 
WHM and increases in fixed costs. It also will help fund the 
conservation of unlisted imperiled wildlife and wildlife corridors.
                         u.s. geological survey
    Ecosystems--Defenders supports the $326.1 million in the request, 
an increase of $26.7 million to support development of crucial 
scientific information for sound management of our Nation's biological 
resources. This includes a total of $69.3 million, an increase of $6.2 
million for the National and Regional Climate Adaptation Centers.

    [This statement was submitted by Mary Beth Beetham, Director of 
Legislative Affairs, Defenders of Wildlife.]
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Prepared Statement of Detention Facility and Public Safety in Northeast 
                                Oklahoma
    Problem. For many years, the State of Oklahoma and the Federal 
Government treated reservations in Oklahoma as disestablished, but this 
wrongful assumption was recently corrected. The Federal Government and 
Tribal Nations now need significantly more resources to provide law 
enforcement and public safety services throughout newly-affirmed Indian 
Country in Oklahoma. Most pressing for us, there is not an adequate 
detention facility in Northeast Oklahoma in which to house offenders, 
and this deficiency is a major barrier to Tribal Nations' exercise of 
criminal jurisdiction on their lands. Additionally, there are not 
sufficient resources for detainees struggling with chemical dependency 
and mental health issues, resulting in serious recidivism challenges.
    Reservation Affirmations. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in McGirt v. 
Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020), concerning the Muscogee (Creek) 
reservation, that reservations in Oklahoma are subject to the same 
exacting test for disestablishment as Tribal Nations' reservations 
elsewhere. Since that ruling, multiple other Tribal Nations' 
reservation boundaries have been affirmed, empowering Tribal Nations in 
Oklahoma to exercise their territorial jurisdiction. On March 7, 2024, 
the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals in Oklahoma v. Fuller, Case No. 
S-2023-409, affirmed what we already knew to be true: the Wyandotte 
Reservation-the seat of our government and the land on which our 
Ancestors sought refuge and created a home-continues to exist. This 
shifted the Wyandotte Nation's jurisdictional footprint in Oklahoma 
from approximately 760 acres of trust land to over 20,000 acres of 
reservation land. Many Tribal Nations near us have also had their 
reservation boundaries affirmed, including the Miami Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, Peoria Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma, Quapaw 
Nation, and Cherokee Nation. We expect the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of 
Oklahoma and Seneca-Cayuga Nation to receive affirmations soon.
    No Existing Detention Facilities. The Tribal Nations in Northeast 
Oklahoma have exercised jurisdiction over their trust lands even prior 
to the decision in McGirt, and therefore they have some public safety 
infrastructure in place. At present, some have agreements whereby they 
place offenders at the local county jail. However, we cannot understate 
the deteriorating condition of this facility and the lack of staff and 
services available there, in addition to its small size. Beyond the 
local county jail, no Tribal Nation operates a local detention 
facility, nor does the Department of the Interior's Bureau of Indian 
Affairs.
    Cooperation. Many of the Tribal Nations located in Northeast 
Oklahoma have cooperated closely on their exercise of criminal 
jurisdiction post-McGirt, including the Miami Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, Seneca-
Cayuga Nation, Shawnee Tribe, and Wyandotte Nation. This Tribal 
Consortium has also worked closely with the Oklahoma Attorney General 
and District Attorney, Ottawa County, and City of Miami. These 
governmental units have a healthy working relationship and a desire to 
coordinate to create a safe community for all, and they all support 
bringing more Federal public safety resources into the area.
    Past Efforts to Secure Detention Facility. Prior to many of the 
reservation affirmation decisions, the Tribal Consortium in 2022 
submitted and was denied a Coordinated Tribal Assistance Solicitation 
(CTAS) grant application to build a new detention facility. As part of 
the CTAS grant application process, the Tribal Nations designed a 
shovel-ready project that they would have operated jointly to provide 
detention and rehabilitative services. The Tribal Nations also made 
appropriations requests for this facility last year, along with other 
funding requests related to public safety.
                     requests for fiscal year 2025.
  --Congressionally Directed Spending for Detention Facility. The 
        Department of the Interior Budget Justification for Fiscal Year 
        2025 recognizes the need for funding to support ``the detention 
        and corrections needs for Tribes'' in the wake of McGirt. The 
        Wyandotte Nation seeks a congressionally directed spending item 
        to fund construction and operation of a detention facility in 
        Northeast Oklahoma-either by the Tribal Nations in accordance 
        with the plans set forth in their CTAS grant application or by 
        the Department of the Interior to house offenders prosecuted in 
        Tribal as well as Federal courts. According to the CTAS grant 
        application, construction costs were estimated at $26,849,750, 
        and annual operating costs were estimated at $2,808,462.

  --McGirt Funding for Tribes. In recent legislation, Congress has 
        appropriated $62 million to the Department of the Interior to 
        allocate to Tribal Nations to implement public safety changes 
        resulting from McGirt. This funding must be increased, and 
        indeed the Budget Justification recognizes ``other Tribes which 
        collectively span the eastern half of the State of Oklahoma'' 
        have now had their reservations affirmed and will be sharing in 
        this money. Additionally, the Department must allocate 
        sufficient monies to each Tribal Nation with an affirmed 
        reservation. Its current allocation methodology would only 
        provide $135,370 to the Wyandotte Nation, which is woefully 
        insufficient. The Wyandotte Nation is seeking at least $154 
        million for Public Safety and Justice monies in the Interior, 
        Environment, and Related Agencies appropriation legislation to 
        flow to McGirt Tribal Nations.

  --Funding for Office of Justice Services' Law Enforcement in 
        Oklahoma. The Federal Government is responsible for providing 
        law enforcement services in Indian Country, including policing 
        and detention services. Some of the Tribal Nations in Northeast 
        Oklahoma have contracted or compacted for portions of these 
        services, including the Wyandotte Nation. The Wyandotte Nation 
        is seeking increased funding for Public Safety and Justice 
        monies in the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
        appropriation legislation to better fund the Department of the 
        Interior's Office of Justice Services' law enforcement in 
        Oklahoma.

  --Funding for Northern District of Oklahoma U.S. Attorney's Office. 
        The Federal Government is also responsible for prosecuting 
        Federal crimes in Indian Country. In the past, Congress has 
        appropriated funding to the Department of Justice for increased 
        workloads resulting from McGirt, including at the U.S. 
        Attorney's Offices. The Wyandotte Nation is seeking increased 
        funding for Salaries and Expenses for U.S. Attorneys within the 
        Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies appropriation 
        legislation to provide the Northern District of Oklahoma U.S. 
        Attorney's Office the support it needs to prosecute crimes in 
        Indian Country.

    [This statement was submitted by Wyandotte Nation, Chief Billy 
Friend.]
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    Prepared Statement of the Dine Bi Olta School Board Association 
                                (DBOSBA)
    The Navajo Nation established the Dine Bi Olta School Board 
Association (DBOSBA) to represent the locally-elected school boards 
within the Navajo Nation. With its representation of school boards from 
the 66 Bureau of Indian Education-funded (BIE) schools located on the 
Navajo Nation in Arizona and in New Mexico, DBOSBA's membership 
constitutes more than one-third of the 183 BIE-funded schools 
nationwide. Of those 66 BIE-funded schools, 32 are operated by the BIE 
and 34 are tribally-operated (33 pursuant to grants under the Tribally 
Controlled Schools Act, Public Law 100-297 (TCSA) and one pursuant to a 
contract under the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance 
Act, Public Law 93-638 (ISDEAA)). DBOSBA unites school boards to 
advocate for educational programs and services that help ensure each 
Navajo student graduates with the preparation necessary to lead a 
productive and fulfilling life, with knowledge and understanding of 
Navajo language and culture.
    DBOSBA appreciates the key increases the subcommittees provided FY 
2023, but is concerned that the discretionary spending caps set by 
Fiscal Responsibility Act for FY 2024 and FY 2025 are keeping these 
critical programs flat funded, when increases are in fact needed just 
to provide parity with other school systems. DBOSBA respectfully asks 
that Congress prioritize funding for Indian Education in this FY 2025 
budget. Our requested funding levels and policy priorities for the FY 
2025 Bureau of Indian Education and Bureau of Indian Affairs budgets 
are as follows:

  --$950 million for ISEP Formula Funds (BIE);

  --Ensure full funding for Teacher Pay Parity (BIE);

  --Ensure that all the employees of BIE-funded schools receive Federal 
        Employees Retirement System (FERS) benefits (BIE);

  --Full and Forward Funding for Facilities Operations (BIE);

  --Full and Forward Funding for Facilities Maintenance (BIE);

  --$86 million for Student Transportation (BIE);

  --$50 million for Early Childhood and Family Development (BIE);

  --$39 million for Education IT, equitably provided to schools (BIE);

  --Continued full funding for Tribal Grant Support Costs (BIE);

  --Mandatory funding for Payments for Tribal Leases and Contract 
        Support Costs (BIA);

  --Substantial and sustained increases for Education Construction 
        (BIE) and a robust reauthorization of the Great American 
        Outdoors Act; and

  --Ensure BIE implementation of the statutory mandates Congress 
        established (BIE).

    ISEP Formula Funds are the core account for BIE-operated and 
Tribally Controlled Schools. This account funds everything from 
classroom instruction materials and teacher salaries to gifted and 
talented programs, and summer programs. Increases in ISEP Formula Funds 
directly benefit students and help attract and retain the quality 
teachers vital to our students' academic success. BIE-funded schools 
across the Nation are facing a significant teacher shortage, but that 
shortage is particularly acute here on the Navajo Nation, where many 
schools operate in remote locations, and because the surrounding public 
schools in New Mexico and Arizona have responded to the teacher 
shortage by substantially increasing teacher pay. Having the resources 
to attract and retain quality teachers is one of our biggest challenges 
and substantial increases are needed. Unfortunately, the $518.1 million 
the BIE requested for ISEP Formula Funds for FY 2025 would only provide 
an estimated Weighted Student Unit (WSU) value of $8,033 per student. 
When adding in some prorated non-ISEP line items which schools receive, 
the per student amount is still far behind the estimated $25,000 the 
Department of Defense Education Activity spends per student and 
estimated $14,000 on average spent per student by public schools across 
the country. When recommending $950 million for FY 2025 ISEP Formula 
Funds, the Tribal Representatives to the Tribal/Interior Budget Council 
calculated the average per student funding in public schools, 
multiplied by the WSU, and accounted for 1% contingency. When 
appropriating funding for ISEP Formula Funds, Congress must consider 
that these stark disparities, particularly between the two federally 
funded school systems in the Nation, are simply unacceptable and have 
significant, negative impacts on our students.
    Full Funding for Teacher and Counselor Pay Parity is a critical 
tool for attracting and retaining quality teachers. Federal law 
requires the BIE to provide funding so that teachers and counselors in 
the BIE-funded school system may be paid equivalent salaries to their 
counterparts in the Department of Defense Education Activity. Federal 
law also provides that, at the discretion of the local school board, a 
BIE-operated school may pay salaries consistent with those paid by 
public schools in the state where the BIE school is located.
    DBOSBA would like to thank Congress for the ongoing direction that 
the BIE clearly display funding amounts required to comply with Defense 
Department-equivalent pay rates and to include sufficient funding in 
its budget request to fully fund these requirements. The detailed 
information on this issue requested by Senate Report 118-83 is 
particularly helpful and we ask that it be continued for FY 2025. Given 
the acute teacher shortages, this parity is essential to our schools' 
ability to recruit and retain qualified teachers.
    Ensuring that all employees of BIE-funded schools receive Federal 
Employees Retirement System (FERS) benefits would significantly bolster 
the ability of Tribally Controlled Schools in the BIE-funded school 
system to attract and retain quality teachers. In Senate Report 118-83, 
accompanying the FY 2024 Consolidated Appropriations Act, Congress 
stated that,
    ``The Committee is concerned about the inequity created by the loss 
of Federal Employees Retirement System [FERS] benefits for teachers and 
staff when Tribes exercise their self-determination right to operate 
BIE-funded schools under Public Law 100-297 grants or Public Law 93-638 
contracts. The loss of these benefits is a major impediment to the 
recruitment and retention of teachers and staff, as these Tribally 
Controlled Schools often bear the hardship of recruiting, hiring, and 
training teachers and staff only to lose them shortly thereafter to 
other schools offering better pay and benefits. Any policy denying 
Federal benefits to employees carrying out a Federal trust 
responsibility is incompatible with the Federal policy of self-
determination. Congress recognized this incompatibility and barrier to 
recruitment and retention in 2020 when it extended the Federal Employee 
Health Benefits [FEHB] program to teachers and staff of Tribally 
Controlled Schools.''
    As such, we urge the subcommittees to use the appropriations 
process to equitably extend FERS benefits to teachers and staff at 
Tribally Controlled Schools in the BIE-funded school system.
    Full and Forward Funding for Facilities Operations and Facilities 
Maintenance. These two accounts play a pivotal role in the health and 
safety of our students and staff and are for day to day operating 
expenses. Facilities Operations is for things like monthly utilities 
and Facilities Maintenance is for preventive, routine, and unscheduled 
maintenance--not the type of things that can wait. These two accounts 
are also severely underfunded and two of the remaining core school 
operations accounts not forward funded. This means that when there are 
government shut downs or continuing resolutions, some schools do not 
receive these critical funds until the end of the school year! This 
also creates significant accounting problems for schools because they 
have to borrow from other forward funded accounts, such as their ISEP 
Formula Funds, when this funding is delayed. Delays in funding for 
these two accounts also delays Tribal Grant Support Costs (a forward 
funded account) from being calculated and provided to schools because 
Tribal Grant Support Costs are calculated based on total funding a 
school receives. Further, significantly more funding is needed to 
address the BIE system-wide deferred maintenance backlog (estimated to 
be more than $804 million in the BIE's FY 2025 Budget Justification).
    Student Transportation (BIE) and Road Maintenance for School Bus 
Routes (BIA) are of particular importance to schools located on the 
Navajo Nation. Our students travel some of the longest distances to 
their schools on some of the worst roads in the Nation. Outdated buses 
improperly equipped to handle the many unpaved and unimproved roads put 
our students' safety at risk or can mean that our students miss 
critical instruction days and fall behind their peers in other 
jurisdictions. DBOSBA also cautions that the proposed conversion to 
electric buses could actually present new problems given the extensive 
distances of remote bus routes on the Navajo Nation and the limited 
electric system capacity of many of our communities. Without further 
increases for Student Transportation and Road Maintenance, and the 
alignment of new technologies to our circumstances, this precarious 
situation will continue.
    Early Childhood and Family Development funding plays a critical 
role in preparing children for school and supporting and empowering 
their parents. Substantial program increases are needed each year to 
expand these opportunities to more BIE-system schools. Of the 183 
schools in the BIE-funded school system, the BIE's FY 2025 Budget 
Justification reports that just 51 receive Early Childhood and Family 
Development funds. The National Education Association finds that 
children in early childhood education programs are: less likely to 
repeat a grade; less likely to be identified as having special needs; 
more prepared academically for later grades; more likely to graduate 
from high school; and more likely to become higher earners in the 
workforce. DBOSBA asks the subcommittees to increase funds for this 
critical line item.
    Education IT, specifically, funding to increase connectivity for 
schools and students is critical: our schools' connectivity needs 
persist even after the worst of the pandemic recedes. Further, DBOSBA 
is concerned to hear reports that the BIE may be prioritizing Education 
IT resources for BIE-operated schools, while directing Tribally 
Controlled Schools to ``just use your ISEP funds'' to address critical 
technology needs. Any policy denying Federal resources to Tribally 
Controlled Schools carrying out a Federal trust responsibility is 
incompatible with the Federal policy of self-determination. Education 
IT and other Federal resources must be equitably shared throughout the 
entire BIE-funded school system.
    School Replacement Construction and School Facilities Improvement & 
Repair in the BIE's Education Construction budget significantly impact 
the health and safety of our students and staff. This funding not only 
helps keep our students and staff safe, it also helps prolong the 
useful life of our school buildings. Unfortunately, many schools 
throughout the BIE-funded system are far beyond the end of their safe 
and useful life and must be replaced. Many of these schools in poor or 
dangerous condition are located on the Navajo Nation. The BIE's FY 2025 
budget justification reports that only five of the 10 schools on the 
2016 School Replacement List are complete and none of the 40 schools 
identified through the Site Assessment--Capital Investment (SA-CI) 
program lists for 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2023 are complete. Of 
these 40 schools identified through the SA-CI process, only 10 of them 
are classified as ``funded.''
    If we take these 30 unfunded schools identified through the SA-CI 
process and estimate $90 million per school, that calculates to $2.7 
billion in unfunded schools waiting on the current SA-CI replacement 
lists, alone. Indeed, the $7.3 billion recommended by the Tribal/
Interior Budget Council (TIBC) Tribal Representatives just for the 
BIE's FY 2025 Education Construction budget (of which $6.2 billion 
would be for Replacement School Construction and $1 billion would be 
Facilities Improvement and Repair), is based on replacing all the 
schools rated in poor condition that have not yet been funded. If 
Congress continues to fund Replacement School Construction at the FY 
2023 rate of $116.5 million per fiscal year, Congress will never catch 
up. Unfortunately, we understand that the type of significant and 
necessary increase in funding recommended by the TIBC Tribal 
Representatives is not likely to be a reality for FY 2025, given the 
current discretionary budget caps and subcommittee allocations in 
place. With this in mind, we urge Congress to protect and increase 
Education Construction funding to the greatest extent possible and to 
swiftly reauthorize the Great American Outdoors Act, which has provided 
a supplemental $95 million per year for 5 years to help address this 
staggering and dangerous backlog in the BIE-funded school system.
    Continued Full Funding for Tribal Grant Support Costs means that 
Tribally Controlled Schools can focus ISEP funds where it counts: 
supporting students, improving classroom instruction, and attracting 
and retaining quality teachers. DBOSBA thanks Congress for providing 
full funding for Tribal Grant Support Costs since FY 2016.
    Shifting Tribal Leases and Contract Support Costs to Mandatory 
Funding would make the discretionary budget process more predictable 
and would free up additional funding for Indian Education programs 
within the topline allocation for the Interior, Environment and Related 
Agencies appropriations bill. In the BIA's FY 2025 budget request, the 
Administration is requesting that these accounts be classified as 
mandatory spending in FY 2026. DBOSBA strongly supports the request to 
reclassify these accounts, but urges that this occurs in FY 2025.
    Ensure BIE implementation of the statutory mandates Congress 
established in Public Law 95-561 and Public Law 100-297. Congress 
provided clear statutory parameters to ``facilitate Indian control of 
Indian affairs in all matters relating to education.'' 25 U.S.C. 
Sec. 2011(a). For example, when Congress enacted Public Law 95-561, it 
established consultation requirements to ensure Tribal school officials 
have the opportunity to guide BIE policy and improve the BIE's response 
to the needs of Indian students and our communities. Through Public Law 
95-561, Congress also authorized local Tribal school boards to exercise 
substantial control over the hiring and budgeting decisions of BIE-
operated schools. Through Public Law 100-297, Congress limited the 
BIE's bureaucratic authority over Tribally Controlled Schools' 
resources and prohibited the BIE from unilaterally transferring Federal 
responsibilities to local school boards unless such transfers are 
accompanied by the resources to carry them out. Yet, the BIE is 
undermining local school board authority at BIE-operated schools by 
ignoring statutory mandates that require BIE to consult with local 
Tribal school boards when making hiring and budgeting decisions and to 
provide school boards with approval authority over such decisions. The 
BIE is also subjecting Tribally Controlled Schools to burdensome 
requirements that are not permitted by statute, have not been agreed to 
by the schools, and that operate to perpetuate the Federal bureaucratic 
domination of Indian education programs. These policy concerns have an 
adverse practical effect: the BIE has made it much more difficult and 
much more expensive for Navajo schools to provide quality educational 
services in our communities. BIE must establish a training program to 
ensure BIE officials at all levels in the BIE bureaucracy comply with 
the statutory framework governing Indian education.

    [This statement was submitted by Ervin Chavez, Executive Board 
Chair of the Dine Bi Olta School Board Association.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Entomological Society of America
    The Entomological Society of America (ESA) respectfully submits 
this statement for the official record in support of funding for 
entomology-related activities at the U.S. Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA), the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Forest Service, 
and the U.S. Department of Interior (DOI). For fiscal year (FY) 2025, 
ESA recommends $976 million for the EPA Science and Technology (S&T) 
account, with $40 million towards the Science to Achieve Results (STAR) 
Program, as well as strong support for programs across the agency that 
advance the safe application of pesticides. ESA also strongly supports 
EPA's commitment to work with other Federal agencies to monitor and 
improve pollinator health. In addition, ESA requests the Forest Service 
be funded at no less than $9.7 billion in discretionary funds. Within 
the Forest Service, ESA requests the Forest and Rangeland Research 
budget be supported with at least $349 million to preserve valuable 
invasive species research and development. The Society also supports 
the Forest Inventory and Analysis Program be funded at levels no less 
than $36.7 million and continued investment in Forest Health Management 
programs across the Forest Service at no less than the FY 2020 request 
level of $100 million. ESA also recommends that DOI continue to support 
the important work of the National Invasive Species Council (NISC), at 
a level no less than $2 million for its critical coordination of 
efforts across agencies to respond to invasive species.
    Advances in forestry and environmental sciences, including the 
field of entomology, protect our ecosystems and communities from 
threats to our Nation's economy, public health, and agricultural 
productivity and safety. Through improved understanding of invasive 
insect pests and the development of biological approaches to pest 
management, entomology plays a critical role in reducing and preventing 
the spread of infestation and diseases harmful to national forests and 
grasslands. The study of entomology also contributes to the development 
of Integrated Pest Management (IPM) techniques, which use science-
based, environmentally conscious, comprehensive methods to take 
effective management action against pests, often resulting in lower 
costs through a more judicious use of pesticides. Entomology also 
improves our knowledge of pollinators and factors affecting pollinator 
health and populations, helping to ensure safe, reliable crop 
production that meets the needs of a growing world population.
    EPA carries out its mission to protect human health and the 
environment by developing and enforcing regulations, awarding grants 
for research and other projects, conducting studies on environmental 
issues, facilitating partnerships, and providing information through 
public outreach. Through these efforts, EPA strives to supply the 
Nation with clean water, clean air, a safe food supply, and communities 
free from pollution and harmful chemical exposures. EPA's Pesticides 
Licensing Program Area, supported by EPA's Science & Technology and 
Environmental Program & Management budgets, evaluates, and regulates 
new pesticides to ensure safe and proper usage by consumers. Through 
the mandate of the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act 
(FIFRA), EPA uses scientific expertise and data, including knowledge 
gained from entomological sciences, to set maximum tolerated residue 
levels and to register pesticide products as effective and safe. By 
controlling insects that carry diseases of humans and domesticated 
animals, consume agricultural and horticultural products, and become 
established as invasive species that endanger our environment, 
pesticides registered by EPA help protect public health and the 
Nation's food supply.
    Although pesticide registrations and regulations are within EPA's 
purview, the agency has not been a major sponsor of entomology 
research. However, EPA has provided support to projects that promote 
IPM adoption and the safe application of pesticides while also 
promoting pollinator protection. For example, the EPA has supported the 
Pesticide Educational Resources Collaborative (PERC), a cooperative 
agreement between the EPA's Office of Pesticide Programs and University 
of California Davis Extension, in collaboration with Oregon State 
University, which empowers farmworkers and other pesticide handlers to 
employ better and safer practices in pesticide use. Since 2016, PERC 
has developed and implemented over 40 multilingual pesticide-related 
training programs, manuals, videos, and guides which are widely relied 
upon by the community.\1\ The program has been so successful that it 
was renewed in 2021 for a second cycle, along with a similar program, 
PERC-Med focuses on education and awareness raising of the safe 
application of pesticides among health professionals. In addition, the 
EPA's Pesticide Environmental Stewardship Program (PESP) grants enable 
grantees to ``implement sustainable pest management practices that 
reduce unnecessary risks from pests and pesticides.'' \2\ While IPM is 
a long-standing paradigm for mitigating pests, relatively few focused 
funding sources are available to support entomologists conducting 
research or participating in community outreach on this subject. ESA 
encourages the committee to encourage EPA to expand IPM investments and 
support of other programs to promote the safe use of pesticides through 
increased funding for such activities across the agency's research and 
regulatory portfolios. ESA also requests $976 million for EPA S&T 
including $40 million for EPA's Science to Achieve Results (STAR) 
Program.
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    \1\ EPA Awards $6 Million to the University of California, Davis to 
Support Pesticide Safety Outreach https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-
awards-6-million-university-california-davis-support-pesticide-safety-
outreach. Accessed April 19, 2024.
    \2\ Pesticide Environmental Stewardship Program Grants https://
www.epa.gov/pesp/pesticide-environmental-stewardship-program-grants. 
Accessed April 19, 2024.
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    ESA is also supportive of increased funding for scientific studies 
and other efforts to protect pollinator populations and health. 
Pollinators play a vital role in our Nation's agriculture industry. 
Honeybees alone pollinate more than 100 crops in the U.S. and are 
essential to produce an estimated one-third of all the food we eat or 
export, contributing over $24 billion in annual crop and seed 
production in the U.S. alone, with even greater contributions when 
accounting for ecosystems services. To ensure a healthy bee population, 
more research is needed to fully understand the diverse factors that 
endanger bee health. Pesticides represent just one potential risk to 
bees, but both the risks and benefits must be balanced, and they will 
vary between different crops and different crop-producing regions of 
the U.S. EPA is well-positioned to identify methods for protecting bee 
health. The agency has awarded agricultural grants to three 
universities to aid in the development of IPM practices that lower 
pesticide risks to bees while protecting valuable crops from pests. ESA 
supports EPA's continued participation in multi-agency efforts to 
investigate pollinator health and implement plans to prevent pollinator 
population decline -including the new Vulnerable Species Pilot Project.
    The U.S. Forest Service (USFS) sustains the health, diversity, and 
productivity of 193 million acres of public lands in national forests 
and grasslands across 44 States and territories. Serving as the largest 
supporter of forestry research in the world, the agency employs 
approximately 30,000 scientists, administrators, and land managers. In 
addition to activities at the Federal level, the Forest Service 
provides technical expertise and financial assistance to state and 
private forestry agency partners. The USFS Forest and Rangeland 
Research budget supports the development and delivery of scientific 
data and innovative technological tools to improve the health, use, and 
management of the Nation's forests and rangelands. Programs within 
Forest and Rangeland Research provide science-based approaches to 
reduce and prevent the spread of destructive insects, plants, and 
diseases that can have serious economic and environmental consequences 
for our Nation. For example, USFS scientists are working to understand 
the impact of the mountain pine beetle (MPB, Dendroctonus ponderosae) 
on U.S. forests. Since 2000, outbreaks of MPB have affected more than 
10 million hectares of lodgepole pine forests, compromising long-term 
forest health while creating the potential for more dangerous 
wildfires, loss of wildlife habitat, poorer water quality, and soil 
erosion.\3\ Such outbreaks are predicted to continue in the face of 
increased temperatures and drought associated with climate change. 
Funding for such studies will enable land managers to better predict 
and respond to ecosystem changes that occur following such outbreaks. 
ESA requests that Forest and Rangeland Research be funded with at least 
$349 million for FY 2025.
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    \3\ Fettig, C.J., R.A. Progar, J. Paschke, F.J. Sapio. Forest 
insects. G. Robertson, T. Barrett (Eds.). (2020) Implications of Forest 
Disturbance Processes for Sustainability in the Western US. PNW-GTR-XX. 
U.S. Department of Agriculture, Forest Service, Pacific Northwest 
Research Station, Portland, OR.
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    In addition, research conducted through the Forest Service's Forest 
Inventory and Analysis (FIA) Program have provided valuable insight on 
how forest environmental conditions affected three problematic tick 
species in the southeastern United States. This research found that 
each species responds differently to environmental conditions, meaning 
that using only one forest management approach, such as controlled 
burning, may not be able to adequately control all tick populations. As 
tick populations increase and their habitats expand, more research is 
vital to better understand how to modify current forest management 
practices to control these populations and limit the spread of harmful 
diseases. ESA requests that the Forest Inventory and Analysis Program 
be funded at levels no less than $36.7 million.
    The Forest Health Management program, also implemented by the USFS, 
conducts mapping and surveys on public and private lands to monitor and 
assess risks from potentially harmful insects, diseases, and invasive 
plants. The program also aids State and local partners to prevent and 
control outbreaks that threaten forest health. Invasive forest insects 
cost local governments alone an average of over $2 billion per year; 
direct costs to homeowners from property loss, tree removal, and 
treatment averages $1.5 billion per year. The damage caused by these 
pests can often be mitigated by integrated pest management programs, 
but the success of such initiatives depends heavily on the presence of 
sustained funding and national response frameworks. A recent 
investigation of forest pest management programs supported by the USDA 
Forest Health Protection program identified several key weaknesses in 
modern pest management programs.\4\ Critically, these programs suffer 
from the lack of nationally coordinated response frameworks for 
invasive pests and minimal Federal investment in forest pest management 
programs, ultimately reducing the impact of programs that are designed 
to mitigate the economic impact of forest pests. The USDA Forest Health 
Management program provides the needed leadership and national 
coordination required to mitigate the economic burden of forest pests, 
but the success of their efforts is contingent upon a renewed national 
investment in forest health protection and insect pest management. To 
support these important functions, ESA requests that the subcommittee 
provide no less than $100 million for Forest Health Management.
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    \4\ Coleman, T.W. et al. 2023. Evaluating a decade (2011-2020) of 
integrated forest pest management in the United States. Journal of 
Integrated Pest Management 14(1). https://academic.oup.com/jipm/
article/14/1/23/7317488
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    The National Invasive Species Council (NISC) plays a critical role 
in coordinating policy, communication, and technology application to 
address invasive species detection and response across 16 Federal 
agencies. NISC serves a vital function since the impacts of invasive 
species are felt across sectors (agriculture, environmental protection, 
public health). According to the NISC, invasive species impose 
substantial costs on society, leading to an estimated $120 billion in 
environmental damages and losses annually in the United States. 
Invasive insects have directly impacted native insect populations and 
entire ecosystems through predation, plant consumption, and disease 
transmission. For example, emerald ash borer (EAB, Agrilus planipennis) 
is an exotic beetle discovered in Michigan in 2002. Since its 
discovery, EAB has been detected in 36 States, Washington, D.C. and 
five Canadian provinces. It has killed hundreds of millions of ash 
trees in North America and cost cities, property owners, forest 
products industries and many other stakeholders hundreds of millions of 
dollars.\5\ Preventing establishment of invasive species like EAB 
requires early detection and rapid response. Improving these efforts 
requires standard means of inspection and tracking and new 
technologies. NISC has responded by developing guidelines for decision 
makers that improve access to and analysis of invasive species 
information.\6\ Such methods enable effective communication and aid in 
early detection of invasive species and rapid response, saving billions 
of dollars' worth of crops, safeguarding ecosystems, and preventing the 
destruction of property. There are many other examples of NISC success 
addressing invasive species.\7\ ESA requests that the Committee provide 
the DOI funds to support NISC at no less than $2 million.
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    \5\ Emerald Ash Borer Information Network http://
www.emeraldashborer.info/index.php. Accessed April 19, 2024.
    \6\ Enabling Decisions that Make a Difference: Guidance for 
Improving Access to and Analysis of Invasive Species Information 2018. 
https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/isim_guidance.pdf.
    \7\ Holland, J.S., J.R. Kirkey, and J.K. Reaser. 2018. Protecting 
What Matters: Stories of Success. National Invasive Species Council 
Secretariat. 2018. https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/
protecting_what_matters_stories_of_success.pdf.
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    ESA, headquartered in Annapolis, Maryland, is the largest 
organization in the world serving the professional and scientific needs 
of entomologists and individuals in related disciplines. Founded in 
1889, ESA has more than 7,000 members affiliated with educational 
institutions, health agencies, private industry, and government. 
Members are researchers, teachers, extension service personnel, 
administrators, marketing representatives, research technicians, 
consultants, students, pest management professionals, and hobbyists. 
Thank you for the opportunity to offer the Entomological Society of 
America's support for programs at the National Invasive Species 
Council, Forest Service and EPA programs.

For more information about the Entomological Society of America, please 
see http://www.entsoc.org/.
170 Jennifer Road, Suite 230
Annapolis, MD 21401
301-731-4535

    [This statement was submitted by Jennifer A. Henke, BCE--President, 
Entomological Society of America.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Environmental Council of the States
    The Environmental Council of the States (ECOS)--the national 
nonprofit, nonpartisan association of State and territorial 
environmental agency leaders--appreciates the opportunity to submit 
written testimony on the Fiscal Year 2025 (FY25) President's budget 
request for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). ECOS 
requests: $671M for three specific Categorical Grant programs to help 
counter stagnant funding to the States for carrying out Federal 
delegated programs over the last two decades; $3.25B each--full 
appropriations--for the Clean Water (CW) and Drinking Water (DW) State 
Revolving Funds (SRFs); and robust support for addressing per- and 
polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) and the circular economy.
                        building state capacity
    Federal infrastructure funding and regulatory program support for 
States--the primary implementers and enforcers of the Nation's 
environmental laws--is critically needed for States to maintain robust, 
legally defensible programs.
    Congress has established in the Nation's three key environmental 
statutes--the Clean Water Act (CWA), the Clean Air Act (CAA), and the 
Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) Subtitle C--its intent 
for States to have primary responsibility and rights to prevent, 
reduce, eliminate, and control water, air, and hazardous waste 
pollution through the management of permit and enforcement programs. In 
assuming delegation, primacy, and authorization for Federal programs, 
States have made a commitment to match required Federal funding through 
approaches including seeking fees from the regulated community. 
However, States have been forced to seek funding to significantly 
overmatch costs to implement Federal programs. Federal support has 
eroded in the past two decades, whereas inflation has soared. A 
November 2023 report of the Association of State and Territorial Solid 
Waste Management noted, for example, that ``STAG [State and Tribal 
Assistance Grants] funding fell $63[M] short of the total cost to run 
the program in FY[22].'' The $63M difference was covered by 
``overmatch'' by States, with States actually matching 48% of the grant 
funding, well beyond the 25% state match required. In FY24 enacted 
funding, the STAG grant supporting hazardous waste programs was reduced 
$3.5M to $101.5M, with $5M directed to support post-consumer materials 
management or recycling facilities--further reducing funds for 
authorized state implementation of Federal hazardous waste programs to 
their lowest levels since before 2010 while new state program 
requirements are being added.
    Failure to increase Categorical Grant funding to keep up with 
growing regulatory and permitting responsibilities has a material 
impact on a State and territory's ability to deliver permits in an 
effective and efficient manner. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs 
Act (IIJA) provided funding to support communities and economic growth 
with transportation, water, and other infrastructure projects, yet 
these projects depend upon state environmental agencies to carry out 
permitting requirements. State environmental agencies are struggling to 
keep pace with increased permitting demands with limited staff.
    At an April 2024 National Governors Association-ECOS Congressional 
Briefing on environmental protection, a State agency environmental 
director noted, ``Finding and keeping knowledgeable staff is a real 
challenge, and... as long as staff see that the funding isn't 
necessarily stable, that's going to be a factor for them in terms of 
whether they stay at a State agency versus looking around to other 
opportunities.... State and local agencies really are the frontline for 
implementing the Federal clean air programs... it's really a challenge 
to keep... staff that are very knowledgeable in those areas.'' Other 
States have reported pulling staff away from permitting activities to 
meet deadlines for CAA State Implementation Plans or single projects 
that require multiple permit writers. Federal funding is critical to 
consistently support the state capacity required to implement and 
enforce these federally delegated programs. Many agencies are concerned 
about becoming a bottleneck in infrastructure and economic development 
projects because of the difficulties in competing for and retaining a 
specialized environmental permitting and related workforce.
    To ensure States are able to support effective programs that 
respond to new regulatory requirements, maintain vibrant communities, 
and act as co-regulators with our Federal partners, ECOS asks Congress 
to:

  --Provide $271.9M in combined funding through the STAG account of EPA 
        to support state implementation of CAA Sections 103, 105, and 
        106 for State and local air quality management;

  --Provide $275.1M in funding through the STAG account of EPA to 
        support state implementation of CWA Section 106 actions for 
        water pollution control; and

  --Provide $124M in funding through the STAG account of EPA to support 
        state implementation of Section 3011 of RCRA for hazardous 
        waste management, with any funding for implementation of a 
        Federal permit program for coal combustion residuals in 
        nonparticipating States, as authorized under section 
        4005(d)(2)(B) of the Solid Waste Disposal Act (42 U.S.C. 
        6945(d)(2)(B)), or to provide technical assistance to States 
        establishing their own permitting program under section 4005(d) 
        of the Solid Waste Disposal Act (42 U.S.C. 6945(d)) in addition 
        to the amount for State programs.
                         state revolving funds
    States ask the Committee on Appropriations to protect the integrity 
of the state-run and federally financed CW and DW SRFs, which affects 
our States' and territories' capacity to carry out Federal drinking 
water standards--including the recently adopted EPA PFAS standards--
along with properly managing SRF programs to make new loans from these 
perpetual revolving funds. ECOS requests fully authorized FY25 funding 
of the CW and DW SRFs at $3.25B each.
    According to the Council of Infrastructure Financing Authorities, 
the subsidized loans offered by SRFs nationwide to build CW and DW 
infrastructure may result in as much as 75% in interest payment savings 
for communities. In 2022, the average interest rate was 1.25%, compared 
to market rates that exceeded 3% and are among the highest interest 
rates in decades. Lower interest rates result in more affordable water 
rates, a more favorable platform for business development, and cleaner 
water.
    With the enactment of the 2022 IIJA, investments directed to the CW 
and DW SRFs were seen as transformative. Beginning in FY22, Congress 
appropriated funding for Community Project Funding/Congressionally 
Directed Spending (CPF/CDS) projects from SRF capitalization monies--
now approximately half of the SRF appropriations--without a requirement 
for these projects to be included on a publicly vetted state Intended 
Use Plan (IUP). CPF/CDS erodes the corpus of the SRFs while designated 
funding waits for the specified community to apply. Forty-seven States 
and all five territories saw cuts to net water infrastructure funding 
in at least one of the last three fiscal years regardless of whether 
CPF/CDS projects were received.
    A July 2023 Congressional Research Service report, The Role of 
Earmarks in CWSRF and DWSRF Appropriations in the 117th Congress, 
considered the impact of CPF on the SRFs in FY22 and FY23, including 
IIJA funding. Five States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and 
two territories did not receive CPF in these 2 years, but these and all 
States and territories saw across-the-board capitalization cuts. CRS 
found, ``The States, territories, and the Tribes that received no 
earmarks for clean water infrastructure projects received approximately 
13% less in clean water infrastructure funding after (emphasis added) 
considering the FY[22] IIJA supplemental appropriation for the CWSRF 
general program. For drinking water infrastructure funding, the States, 
territories, and Tribes that received no earmarks received 
approximately 19% less in available drinking water infrastructure 
funding after considering the FY[23] IIJA supplemental appropriations 
for the DWSRF general program.'' IIJA does not cover the gap created by 
CPF/CDS for all States and territories, makes planning for annual SRF 
management more challenging, and is fiscally unsound over the long term 
once IIJA funding reaches its limit. We request that Congress maintain 
the corpus of the SRFs, and separately fund CPF/CDS projects.
    In FY25, State and territorial SRF managers must also meet the 
increased required IIJA match of 20% (from 10% the first 3 years) and 
respond to increased EPA SRF oversight on climate resiliency and 
equity, increased project costs due to the scarcity of construction 
contractors, and competition for qualified engineers.
               funding and managing pfas responsibilities
    PFAS treatment, disposal, and destruction need continued 
advancements to enable water systems to fully comply with the National 
Primary Drinking Water Regulations (NPDWR), and to ensure PFAS is not 
moved across media, including to air. States encourage funding to EPA 
to continue to establish science-based recommendations related to 
treatment technologies, to research and approve methods for total 
destruction, and to continue to assist States with monitoring--all with 
a greater sense of urgency and Federal resources. States need support 
from EPA to understand and successfully implement the updated interim 
guidance on destruction and disposal.
    In addition, while the NPDWR rule applies only to public water 
systems, many Americans are on private wells and also experience 
challenges with PFAS contamination, but do not receive funding 
assistance under the SRFs. Congress should consider providing 
additional financial and technical support for all public water systems 
and communities before and after reaching the 5-year implementation 
deadline. We also encourage Congress to consider funding to assist 
State agencies in providing support to Americans who rely on private 
wells that are contaminated with PFAS. States need significantly more 
funding for state capacity building and infrastructure, including for 
assessments and the certification of laboratories, to achieve 
compliance with PFAS-related regulations.
                   accelerating the circular economy
    States and territories agree that sustainable materials management 
is a key strategy to help reduce carbon pollution and other 
environmental stressors, increase equity and community resilience, and 
grow the circular economy. Funding for solid waste and recycling 
infrastructure supports market-based and customized solutions in each 
State to maximize landfill diversion and ensure materials continue to 
have productive economic use.
                 advancing innovation and productivity
    Finally, States and territories alongside EPA and Tribes benefit 
when we share information and learn from each other and from our 
colleagues in the public and private sectors. Congressional funding for 
state capacity building funds these supportive activities, such as 
through E-Enterprise for the Environment, to modernize the business of 
environmental protection through permitting efficiencies, improved data 
exchange, and other advancements.
    Thank you for your consideration of these funding requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Elizabeth Biser, Secretary, North 
Carolina Department of Environmental Quality, and President, 
Environmental Council of the States.]
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           Prepared Statement of Environmental Working Group
    Testimony prepared for the U.S. Senate Committee on Appropriations 
subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies regarding 
the Environmental Protection Agency--Funding for the development and 
implementation of Effluent Limitation Guidelines for PFAS industrial 
discharges
    The Environmental Working Group (EWG) respectfully requests no less 
than $20 million in dedicated funding to the Environmental Programs and 
Management, Clean Water Program within the Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA) for the development and implementation of Effluent 
Limitation Guidelines (ELGs) for PFAS industrial discharges under the 
Clean Water Act.
    PFAS are known as ``forever chemicals'' because they build up 
inside the human body and do not break down in the environment.\1\ 
These chemicals are found in the blood of 98 percent of Americans,\2\ 
and are linked to health harms including cancer,\3\ developmental and 
reproductive harm,\4\ and damage to the immune system.\5\
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    \1\ What are PFAS Chemicals?, Env'tl Working Group, https://
www.ewg.org/what-are-pfas-chemicals (last visited May 2, 2024).
    \2\ Antonia M. Calafat et al., Legacy and Alternative Per- and 
Polyfluoroalkyl Substances in the U.S. General Population: Paired 
Serum-Urine Data from the 2013-2014 National Health and Nutrition 
Examination Survey, 131 Env't Int'l 105048 (2019).
    \3\ Study: PFAS Act Similar to Known Cancer-Causing Chemicals, 
Env'tl Working Group (Mar. 4, 2020), https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/
news-release/study-pfas-act-similar-known-cancer-causing-chemicals.
    \4\ PFAS and Developmental and Reproductive Toxicity: An EWG Fact 
Sheet, Env'tl Working Group (Sept. 2019), https://www.ewg.org/sites/
default/files/u352/EWG_PFAS_Toxicity_C02.pdf?--
ga=2.261156366.226128373.1596463302-1166909982.1546543464&--
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FXY10Ntg92CSH4GngKg_gjy_vA8DJtkkCgaAuCPEALw_wcB&--gl=1*gat5nn*--
gcl_aw*R0NMLjE1OTQzMDk0MDguQ2owS0NRandnSnY0QlJDckFSSXNBQjE3Skk3NmVQSlhsS
k56YzY3ekhscWp4RlhZMTBOdGc5MkNTSDRHbmdLZ19nanlfdkE4REp0a2tDZ2FBdUNQRUFMd
193Y0I.
    \5\ Tasha Stoiber, PFAS Chemicals Harm the Immune System, Decrease 
Response to Vaccines, New EWG Review Finds, ENV'TL WORKING GROUP (June 
21, 2019), https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/pfas-chemicals-harm-
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    EWG has estimated that nearly 30,000 companies could be discharging 
PFAS into the Nation's water supply.\6\ Industrial discharges of PFAS 
have caused significant contamination in places like North Carolina's 
Cape Fear River Basin;\7\ Parkersburg, West Virginia;\8\ and Hoosick 
Falls, New York.\9\
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    \6\ Twelvefold Increase in Suspected Industrial Dischargers of 
'Forever Chemicals', Env'tl Working Group
    \7\ Lewis Kendall, A Town's Water is Contaminated with 'Forever 
Chemicals'--How Did it Get This Bad?, The Guardian (Apr. 2, 2021), 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/02/pfas-testing-forever-
chemicals-pittsboro-north-carolina.
    \8\ Mariah Blake, Welcome to Beautiful Parkersburg, West Virginia: 
Home to One of the Most Brazen, Deadly Corporate Gambits in U.S. 
History, Huff Post (Aug. 27, 2015), https://
highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/welcome-to-beautiful-
parkersburg/.
    \9\ Hoosick Falls Area: Region 4--Environmental Remediation Project 
Information, N.Y. Dept. Env'tl Conservation, https://dec.ny.gov/
environmental-protection/site-cleanup/regional-remediation-project-
information/region-4/hoosick-falls-area (last visited May 3, 2024).
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    Uncontrolled industrial discharges of PFAS pose a major threat to 
drinking water supplies across the country. ELGs would regulate 
industrial polluters, requiring them to adopt technology that would 
result in the greatest PFAS pollution reductions that are economically 
achievable in their respective industries, limiting the amount of PFAS 
that can be present in dischargers' wastewater.
    Recognizing the importance of regulating industrial polluters in 
addressing the PFAS contamination crisis, the EPA's 2021 to 2024 PFAS 
Strategic Roadmap includes the potential development of ELGs for nine 
industrial categories.\10\ The Roadmap stated a goal of significant 
progress by the end of 2024, including proposed rules establishing ELGs 
for two industrial categories by the summer of 2023 and 2024 
respectively.\11\ The EPA has missed its deadline for developing a 
proposed rule for its first ELG for PFAS in part due to limited 
resources.
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    \10\ EPA, PFAS Strategic Roadmap: EPA'S Commitment to Action 2021-
2024 13-14 (Oct. 2021).
    \11\ Id.
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    Congress has expressed its intent that the EPA work expeditiously 
to establish ELGs for PFAS discharges from nine industrial categories, 
or what would likely amount to over 7,800 suspected PFAS 
dischargers.\12\ Twice in 2021, the House of Representatives has passed 
legislation that would require the EPA to issue ELGs for all nine 
categories within 4 years.\13\
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    \12\ Clean Water Standards for PFAS Act of 2024, H.R. 8076, 118th 
Cong. (2024); Jared Hayes, EPA Plan to Regulate Industry 'Forever 
Chemical' Discharges Omits Thousands of Potential Polluters, Env'tl 
Working Group (Sept. 30, 2021), https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/
2021/09/epa-plan-regulate-industry-forever-chemical-discharges-omits-
thousands.
    \13\ PFAS Action Act of 2021, H.R. 2467, 117th Cong, 2021; 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, H.R. 3684, 117th Cong. 12023 
(2021); see also Melanie Benesh, EPA's Plan to Regulate Industry 
'Forever Chemicals' Discharges Falls Short, Env'tl Working GROUP (Sept. 
17, 2021), https://www.ewg.org/news-insghts/news/2021/09/epas-plan-
regulate-industry-forever-chemicals-discharges-falls-short.
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    The development of ELGs for PFAS are particularly important in 
light of the EPA's historic action in April establishing a national 
drinking water standard for PFAS pollution.\14\ By limiting the amount 
of PFAS that can be present in their wastewater, these rules will 
ensure that polluters pay to clean up PFAS pollution, rather than 
passing the cost along to water utilities and taxpayers.
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    \14\ Biden-Harris Administration Finalizes First-Ever National 
Drinking Water Standard to Protect 100M People from PFAS Pollution, EPA 
(Apr. 10, 2024), https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-
administration-finalizes-first-ever-national-drinking-water-
standard#::text=EPA%20is%20setting%20enforceable%20Maximum,are%20feasibl
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    The requested $20 million dollars in dedicated funding to support 
the development of ELGs would allow the EPA to hire additional full-
time employees. The funding would allow the Agency to devote increased 
resources and personnel to data collection and conducting the studies 
necessary to inform these rulemakings.
    The funding in this request would expedite the process of 
developing ELGs for industrial discharges of PFAS, and in turn better 
protect communities living downstream from industrial dischargers. We 
urge Congress to recognize the importance of protecting these 
communities and provide the funding required to turn off the tap on 
PFAS pollution at the source.

    [This statement was submitted by Gianfranco Cesareo, Stabile Law 
Fellow.]
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   Prepared Statement of the Federation of State Humanities Councils
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and members of the 
subcommittee, my name is Phoebe Stein and I am the President of the 
Federation of State Humanities Councils (Federation), the membership 
organization of the 56 state and jurisdictional humanities councils. 
Thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony. The state and 
jurisdictional humanities councils were authorized in the founding 
legislation for the National Foundation for the Arts and Humanities and 
are funded, in part, through the Federal/State Partnership (F/SP) line 
in the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) budget. The councils 
are 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations, with voluntary boards and they 
leverage their NEH funding to raise tens of millions of dollars to 
invest in local projects and grassroots organizations. While councils' 
funding comes from a variety of sources, NEH support is critical, 
especially for on-going operations.
    It is important to remember that the state councils are the local 
face of the public humanities. They are long-standing institutions that 
understand the culture and the cultural organizations in their States. 
Councils offer a rich variety of programming--all driven by community 
needs. Nearly all councils focus on grantmaking to local entities; 
others concentrate on developing and presenting free public programs; 
many do both. The F/SP line is the principal NEH investment in many 
States and is the most evenly distributed, direct, and consistent 
Federal source of humanities funding within a State or jurisdiction
    The Federal/State Partnership (F/SP) funding, currently (FY 2024) 
at $65 million, goes directly to the state councils by a distribution 
formula. The Federation is requesting a $68 million appropriation for 
the F/SP in FY 2025. This would mean an increase of approximately 
$50,000 per council (although individual state allocations would vary 
according to the formula). Funding has been flat for 2 years so the $3 
million increase requested would help compensate for inflation, allow 
councils to reach additional unserved and underserved areas, and 
address new and expanded needs and requests for services. Every council 
has far more requests for funding than it can accommodate. We also 
strongly support the request for funding of at least $211 million for 
each of the NEH and the National Endowment for the Arts in FY 2025.
    In 2023, councils made more than 3,700 grants to local entities and 
partnered with more than 6,500 local organizations. In 2023, more than 
90% of councils supported civic education in their communities; 85% of 
councils provided cultural resources to rural residents; 47% of 
councils provided programs for veterans, active military, and families; 
and 34% of councils provided programs focused on health and well-being 
outcomes.
    Let me give you some details about specific programs and their 
contributions to your constituencies.
    Civic Education For decades, the State and jurisdictional 
humanities councils have actively conducted or supported nonpartisan 
programs, resources, and events providing civic education in support of 
our democracy. In Montana, The Democracy Project is a non-partisan 
initiative led by teens and supported by local libraries, community 
partners, and Humanities Montana to empower young people to address 
community needs while learning about their role in a changing 
democracy. Now in its third year, The Democracy Project is implemented 
in libraries throughout Montana, including rural, frontier, and Indian 
Country communities.
    Rhode Island continues to build upon its Civic Health Index which 
examines public engagement. Joining with partners across the State as 
well as the National Conference on Citizenship, the Council has 
developed a data-driven assessment that documents community 
participation, volunteerism, civic understanding, voting and other 
civic engagement, donating to political and non-profit organizations, 
use of public parks and libraries, connections to neighborhood and 
communities and other factors that illuminate how Rhode Islanders 
define and address public problems.
    Understanding and Sharing Our History Historical and cultural 
events, local, State, national and international, have been a mainstay 
of councils over the past half-century. A review of any council website 
will illustrate the breadth and scope of programming on historical 
topics. For example, the majority of councils have long participated in 
the annual National History Day Program which reaches far beyond a 
``day.'' The effort involves more than half a million students in 
grades 6-12 and tens of thousands of teachers annually in the student 
history contest which culminates in a week-long session for 3,000 
winners.
    The West Virginia Humanities Council, through History Alive, 
features scholars who portray historical figures in many venues, 
including museums, schools, libraries, community centers and fairs and 
festivals. Among the characters portrayed are Pearl Buck, Mother Jones, 
Walt Disney, Charles Schulz, Frances Perkins, Theodore Roosevelt, 
Harriet Tubman and Mark Twain.
    Michigan Humanities is supporting the Chaldean story through its 
Great Michigan Stories grant initiative. Features will include personal 
journeys from Iraq to Michigan, stories of business acumen and success, 
Chaldean spiritual life and the cultural influences contributed to 
Michigan.
    Maine Humanities' Community History project is engaging focus 
groups in all 16 counties to determine local and regional histories of 
special interest, a prime example of the local focus of council 
programs in general. And, many councils have been planning for some 
years for the Semiquincentennial in 2026 when our Nation will 
commemorate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. 
Council representatives are also serving in leadership positions on 
their state and jurisdictional 250th commissions.
    Strengthening rural connections and cultural opportunities Ninety-
seven percent of the American landscape is rural, and rural areas 
impact many aspects of our lives: food supply, water and other natural 
resources, forest products, recreational activities and are home to 
millions of Americans.
    Maryland Humanities, among other councils, will soon be hosting 
SPARK: Places of Innovation, the Smithsonian traveling exhibition that 
focuses on innovation in communities across the Nation, whether it be 
the innovation is technical, social, cultural or artistic. Programming 
in support of the exhibition will involve museums, libraries, colleges, 
humanities organizations and other non-profit institutions. The Arizona 
SPARK effort will ask how innovation shapes communities including the 
ones hosting the exhibit.
    Alabama Humanities Alliance, in its Humanities and the Future of 
Journalism in Rural Alabama, is exploring connections among democracy, 
journalism and an informed citizenry. Oregon Humanities recently 
supported a solicitation that funded mini grants for rural and rural-
serving libraries to create and host humanities events that are 
meaningful to their communities and focus on Fear and Belonging. Recent 
grants include one featuring the award-winning children's book, Wonder, 
by R.J. Palacio which advocates for nurturing a culture of kindness, 
friendship and inclusion. The library sponsoring the program will offer 
the book in English and Spanish. Another offers six sessions for youth 
and adults covering immigration, Japanese internment, Native American 
history, slavery and emancipation, and Chinese railway workers. Each 
event will include a reading and an activity.
    Veterans Councils support veterans and their families in a myriad 
of ways, including the collection of oral histories, the sharing of 
experiences, the examination of service as seen through literature, 
writing workshops encouraging the expression of and reflection on 
aspects of war and its aftermath, dealing with injuries and medical 
conditions, support for VA medical staff, and helping communities to 
understand their challenges. Nebraska's Warrior Writers project enables 
Humanities Nebraska to partner with the University of Nebraska-Lincoln 
to offer writing and discussion workshops with combat veterans, retired 
military, military spouses and civilians whose lives were touched by 
war. In celebration of the 10th anniversary of this program, Humanities 
Nebraska will publish a new anthology of fiction, non-fiction and 
poetry by participating veterans. In Maryland, Veterans Book Groups 
bring together veterans from all eras to talk about military 
experiences and returning to civilian life.
    Healthcare and the Humanities Councils have a long history of 
collaborating with the medical community and play a prominent role in 
efforts to better position those in the field to deliver their services 
as well as to help individuals and their families manage the many 
aspects of their illnesses. Since 1997, when Maine Humanities Council 
created and piloted ``Literature & Medicine: Humanities at the Heart of 
Healthcare,'' the reading and discussion program for healthcare workers 
has been a hallmark effort for many councils, including Arizona, 
California, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nevada, New 
Jersey, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, South Dakota, and 
Vermont. Councils have also targeted specific medical challenges, such 
as opioid addiction, with their programming.
    Serving Teachers & Students Support for our Nation's educators and 
students has never been more important. Arizona Humanities partners 
with K-12 schools and organizations to bring books, supplies , visiting 
authors and more to classrooms across the State through its AZ Reads 
program. Other councils, including the Louisiana Endowment for the 
Humanities, continue to support educators, students, and families with 
nationally-recognized literacy programs, such as ``PRIME TIME, Inc.'' 
and other similar programs. National History Day, referenced earlier, 
focuses on students in grades 6-12. Teacher institutes are widespread.
    Serving Native and Indigenous Populations The Minnesota Humanities 
Center has, for many years, actively reached and served Indigenous 
populations, educating Minnesotans about the history and culture of 
Indigenous people through the award-winning traveling exhibit, ``Why 
Treaties Matter: Self Government in the Dakota and Ojibwe Nations,'' 
and the ``Bdote Memory Map,'' a resource for teaching about the Dakota 
people's relationship to the people of Minnesota.
    In New Mexico, the Manitos Community Memory Project is a 
collaborative initiative to build an online digital cultural heritage 
archive by and for the Manitos, the Indo-Hispanic natives of northern 
New Mexico and southern Colorado, whether they live in the region or 
the diaspora. Part of the project includes developing repository of 
stories, reflections and insights regarding communal experiences from 
the Spanish flu to the pandemic of 2020 and wildfires of 2022.
    Environmental Humanities In 2023, 57% of councils provided their 
communities with resources related to the environment, using literature 
and history to make sense of the changing environmental concerns facing 
Americans.
    In late 2022, eastern Kentucky faced historical flooding that 
killed more than 30 people and caused catastrophic damage including to 
cultural facilities. With help from the NEH, Kentucky Humanities 
provided assistance to the affected cultural facilities. And, in the 
aftermath, it developed a series of workshops on readiness, response, 
recovery and resilience. These workshops are available online.
    Youth programs have been integral to council activities over the 
decades. For example, Alaska's ``Ilakucaraq Project,'' conducted in 
collaboration with the Alaska Native American Education Program, 
empowers youth to identify their heritage as a source of strength 
through personal reflections, positive self- and cultural identity 
formation, cross-cultural experiences, peer-to-peer learning, elder and 
culture-bearer teachings and art.
    Kentucky, through its Youth Innovation in Rural America effort, is 
partnering the Smithsonian SPARK exhibit with a school district or 
youth organization to encourage participants to look for innovative 
solutions to current challenges.
    Community Connections North Dakota remains committed to lifelong 
learning throughout the state. Since 1973, it has offered a series of 
in-person and online programs designed to provide affordable, 
accessible and engaging courses and events for all citizens.
    PA Humanities partners with communities to lead their own growth 
and change, bringing people together to shape their future through the 
power of stories, reflection, and relationships. ``PA Heart & Soul'' is 
a program using a unique community planning approach with storytelling 
and conversations to spark collective decision-making and action. This 
award-winning program is now in 13 towns.
    In this space, I described only a very few of the many activities 
underway in communities across the Nation. Councils are proud of their 
work and their contributions. But we are far from meeting the needs and 
interests of the States and localities. We need additional resources, 
and we ask this subcommittee's support for directing those additional 
resources to cities, towns and rural areas throughout the Nation. We 
can easily double the 3,700 annual awards that we make with additional 
funding. Investments in the Federal/State Partnership are a direct 
investment in communities. In a complex, fast- paced and rapidly 
changing nation, much work remains to be done. Please support the F/SP 
at a level of at least $68 million in FY 2025.

    [This statement was submitted by Phoebe Stein, President, 
Federation of State Humanities Councils.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa
    Chairman Simpson, Ranking Member Pingree, and respected members of 
the Committee, I am Kevin Dupuis, the Chairman of the Fond du Lac Band 
of Lake Superior Chippewa. On behalf of the Band, I would like to thank 
you for inviting me to testify. We submit this testimony to urge 
Congress to increase, or, at the very least preserve, the Federal 
funding levels for Indian programs.
    As we talk about funding needs in Indian country, it is essential 
to keep in mind that the problems that face communities nationwide are 
far more severe for Indian communities, with Tribes having far fewer 
resources to address problems like substance abuse, domestic violence, 
public safety, and homelessness. The Band has worked, and will continue 
to work, to find solutions to problems of this kind. With seed money 
from Federal funds, we provide health, education, social services, 
public safety and other governmental services to our 4,200 members and 
more than 7,300 Indian people who live on and near our Reservation. We 
are proud of what we have accomplished, but more remains to be done. 
Federal funding allows us to use Band resources and attract private 
partners so we can provide jobs, grow the local economy, educate our 
children, prevent crime, and care for our elders and infirm. We urge 
Congress to continue to fund these programs.
    BIA: Trust-Natural Resources Management. There is nothing more 
important than preserving and protecting the territories and resources 
that our ancestors reserved for our people when they signed our 
Treaties with the United States. The Band is committed to the 
management, conservation, and sustainability of the natural resources 
of the Fond du Lac Reservation and within our Ceded Territory, where we 
have Treaty rights to hunt, fish and gather. We urge you to provide 
full funding for Trust-Natural Resources Management in FY 2025, 
including increased funding for Rights Protection and Implementation 
which will allow us to protect, enhance, and restore natural resources 
within our Reservation and Ceded Territory.
    Our Reservation consists of 101,153 acres, including forests, lakes 
and rivers that must be managed and protected for the current and 
future generations. Our Ceded Territory covers 30 million acres in 
portions of Upper Michigan, Northern Wisconsin, North Central Minnesota 
and all of Lake Superior within the United States. The challenges to 
our natural resources across the region are diverse and complex, from 
species restoration and reintroduction to adaptation to climate change. 
Band members depend on our Treaty rights to put food on the table and 
for ceremonial practices that serve as the foundation for our culture. 
The stewardship of those natural resources-through scientific study, 
resource management, and enforcement of Band laws that regulate Tribal 
members who hunt, fish and gather-is critical and an important source 
of local employment.
    A great example of how the Band utilizes BIA funding can be seen 
with how we use BIA Endangered Species Program dollars to monitor our 
local ma'iinganag (wolves). Ma'iingan (the wolf) is an animal of 
special cultural significance to the Ojibwe people. BIA's Endangered 
Species Program funding has enabled the Band to annually estimate the 
number of wolves, track where they go and what happens to them. We have 
been able to determine how wolves responded to oil pipeline 
construction across the Reservation, we annually cooperate with the 
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources to estimate Statewide wolf 
populations and cooperate with local school districts and students on 
wolf ecology presentations and student science fair competitions.
    Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). We appreciate Congress's 
continued support to provide Federal funds for EPA, but we ask that 
funding for EPA in FY 2025 be increased.
    State and Tribal Assistances Grants (STAG). We thank Congress for 
continuing to support funding for STAG, including increasing funding 
for Sections 106 and 319 funding. We strongly urge Congress to increase 
funding for this Program, which has not seen a substantive increase in 
years, yet the Band's responsibilities continue to grow and face 
increasing pressures and obstacles.
    Water Quality. We have a robust federally-approved water quality 
standards program. Given the current threats to water resources in our 
region, we urge that Tribal Section 106 funding be doubled so that we 
can do the work needed to protect our waters. Additionally, Congress 
should continue to provide funding to EPA to support Tribal training in 
ATTAINS, the National water quality assessment database as well as 
training funding to assist Tribes in conducting and reporting on water 
quality assessments. Finally, as Tribes apply for treatment as a State 
to implement various Clean Water Act regulatory programs, such as 
303(c) or water quality standards, 404 wetland dredge and fill 
permitting, 402 NPDES permitting, or 303(d) impaired waters listing and 
Total Maximum Daily Load implementation, there should be financial 
support for that capacity.
    Air. We have a long-standing air monitoring program that has faced 
a steady decline in Federal funding. As the impacts of climate change 
continue to be felt in higher temperatures and more frequent heavy 
precipitation events, both indoor and ambient air quality concerns 
continue to impact Band members and their health. We request that air 
quality program funding for Tribes be increased.
    Climate Change. Climate crisis is imminent, and we request funding 
for planning, preparation and adaptation to deal with this existential 
threat to resources both on our Reservation and in our Ceded Territory.
    Wetlands. One-half of our Reservation is made up of wetlands. 
Funding for sustained wetland monitoring and protection for proper 
management and restoration of this valuable resource is needed.
    Great Lakes Restoration Initiative. The Band fully supports this 
initiative and thanks Congress for its continued bi-partisan support. 
We ask that Congress maintain the current level of funding for this 
initiative. This initiative has broad-reaching benefits to resources of 
importance for all stakeholders (state, Tribal and private) in the 
Great Lakes region. Funding helps support our wildlife programs, wild 
rice restoration efforts, fisheries stewardship and environmental 
staffing capacity. A good example of how this funding has a regional 
impact is how the Band has led an effort supported by the Great Lakes 
Restoration Initiative to restore omashkooz (elk) to the Band's 
Reservation and parts of the Lake Superior basin where they've been 
absent for over 150 years. Elk restoration will return a native species 
adaptable to a wide range of future climates, diversify and increase 
the Band's natural food sources and provide a local economic boost from 
elk tourism.
    Invasive Species. Invasive species threaten all natural resources 
within the Reservation and in the Band's Ceded Territory. They can 
inhibit cultural, agricultural, recreational, and ecological use of the 
land. Due to increasing pressure from climate change, development, and 
transportation we are finding invasive species in more areas than ever. 
To protect our resources, the Band utilizes Federal funding for its 
comprehensive program for the prevention, control, education, and 
monitoring of invasive species. We request continued funding and more 
capacity funding be made available for long term positions and programs 
for invasive species management.
    BIA: Public Safety and Justice. A significant part of protecting 
our homeland is having a fully staffed and trained law enforcement 
department. We appreciate Congress's decision to increase funding for 
BIA's Public Safety and Justice, including funding to solve Missing and 
Murdered Indigenous Women cold cases. Our law enforcement responds to a 
wide range of issues and calls, with the largest issues being related 
to opioids and other substance abuse problems.
    We address law enforcement by a combination of Tribal and available 
Federal funds and cooperative agreements with local law enforcement 
agencies, but more funding is needed. To meet need, we should have 25 
full-time peace officers to provide 24-hour coverage on the Fond du Lac 
Reservation, but currently we only have 21. Those 21 peace officers 
include the Chief of Police, Lieutenant Chief of Police, 4 
Investigators (General Crimes, Sex Trafficking, Narcotics), 1 Victim 
Advocacy Officer, 4 Patrol Sergeants, 9 Patrol Officers, 1 Officer in 
Field Training Program, and 1 K-9 Officer. With additional funding we 
would be able to add 2 more General Crimes and Narcotics Investigators. 
This would allow us to better respond to calls and protect our 
Reservation community. We currently respond to over 9,100 calls per 
year in two counties, an increase of approximately 30% in the last 
year.
    Funding is also needed for training. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic 
and with an increase in the drug epidemic and related crimes, our 
officers need, but are not receiving, vital training, including for 
dealing with an increase in people with mental health issues. We have 
consistently seen an increase in Heroin and Fentanyl overdoses, 
including fatal overdoses. We are also seeing that these incidents 
correlate with general crimes, burglary, theft and assaults. We have a 
regular need to replace equipment, including both marked and unmarked 
squad vehicles for narcotic investigations. A patrol vehicle typically 
only lasts 3 years due to the needs of law enforcement and our 
expansive patrol area-we have 2 major highways on the north and south 
borders of our Reservation and 1 major interstate along our eastern 
border.
    With the evolving trends in drug/illegal substances, our law 
enforcement has experienced an increase in services and equipment 
needs. Officer safety is critical in this area as the substances are 
becoming more dangerous to officers and all parties involved. Increased 
funding for Personal Protection Equipment is needed as costs are 
rising. Although our officers are utilizing equipment and training to 
address these community needs, more funding is needed for substance 
testing and identification, as well as First Aid response supplies for 
medical overdoses.
    Bureau of Indian Education. With funding from the BIE and the 
Department of Education, we operate the Fond du Lac Ojibwe School 
serving an average of 220 children from pre-K through 12th grade. BIE 
has failed to provide any funding increases to meet our needs.
    More than 90% of our students come from very low-income households, 
and 97.3% receive free or reduced-price lunch, which is an increase 
from prior years. We are slowly making progress in improving the 
outcomes for our students. While the high school graduation rates for 
American Indians in Minnesota is at 61.3%, we are now at 71.43%, which 
is still far behind the State-wide rate of 83.7%. BIE funding has never 
kept pace with need, which prevents us from providing the educational 
services needed for our students. We urge Congress to significantly 
increase Federal funding for Indian education.
    Indian Health Service. We appreciate Congress's continued support 
to increase funding for IHS. However, incremental increases do not 
begin to address substandard outcomes in Tribal communities. We urge 
Congress to both provide full funding and continue to advance 
appropriations for IHS. Our members continue to face severe disparities 
across a broad range of health issues. We serve over 7,300 Indian 
people at our clinics, but the current funding level meets only 33% of 
our health care funding needs.
    We support the preservation of Medicaid, and the continuation of 
the Indian Health Care Improvement Act (``IHCIA'') and other Indian-
specific provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. 
We believe there needs to be dedicated funding to begin implementing 
the new authorities contained in the IHCIA, which have not yet been 
implemented and funded.
    We continue to support Congress's prior actions to provide advance 
appropriations for IHS and request that this be continued. We also 
believe that Tribal health and other programs should be permanently 
excluded from sequestration and rescissions. IHS is the only Federal 
health care system created as the result of treaty obligations, yet it 
is the most chronically underfunded.
    We support the proposal to make both Contract Support Costs and the 
105(l) leasing funding mandatory, including establishing a mandatory 
appropriations account that is funded every year. This is important 
because this funding, which is a non-discretionary funding obligation 
for the agency, competes with discretionary funding. As a result, any 
Congressional increase in discretionary funding for IHS never truly 
results in the full amount of that funding reaching discretionary 
programs because a large part gets redirected to cover IHS's legal 
obligations to fund Contract Support Costs and 105(1) leasing 
requirements.
    We also support permanent reauthorization of the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (``SDPI'') and that it be funded at $250 million 
per year indexed for inflation. Tribes and Tribal organizations should 
also be authorized to receive SDPI awards through Public Law 93-638 
contracts or compacts.
    Congress recognized that the COVID-19 pandemic exposed the lack of 
infrastructure funding and support for Tribes. To address this need we 
support an increase of $627.5 million as well as recurring funding to 
support Public Health Infrastructure. Lastly, Congress should authorize 
Federally- Operated health facilities and IHS headquarters to use 
Federal dollars efficiently and adjust programmatic fund flexibility 
across accounts at the local level, in consultation with Tribes.
    Miigwech. Thank you.

    [This statement was submitted by Kevin R. Dupuis, Sr., Chairman, 
Fond Du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa.]
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            Prepared Statement of the Fort Peck Reservation
    I am Dana Buckles, Councilman of the Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes 
of the Fort Peck Reservation. I would like to thank the Senate Interior 
Appropriations subcommittee for the opportunity to present testimony 
concerning FY 2025 appropriations for the Indian Health Service (IHS) 
and Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA).
    The Fort Peck Reservation is in northeast Montana, forty miles west 
of the North Dakota border and fifty miles south of the Canadian 
border, with the Missouri River defining its southern border. The 
Reservation encompasses over two million acres of land. We have 
approximately 13,000 enrolled Tribal members, with approximately 7,600 
Tribal members living on the Reservation. We have a total Reservation 
population of approximately 12,000 people.
    Congress has long recognized that the foundation for economic 
development and prosperity in Indian country lies in community 
stability, which begins with quality healthcare and infrastructure, 
such as safe drinking water, roads, public safety and a clean 
environment.
                     indian health service funding
    Last year, former Chairman Floyd Azure testified before you about 
the mental health and addiction crisis facing Indian country and which 
the people of Fort Peck, in particular, are experiencing at devastating 
levels. Over the last year, this crisis has only magnified. It is 
critical, therefore, that the Indian Health Service be fully funded and 
Tribes economically empowered to face this crisis head on.
    The COVID-19 pandemic showed the Nation the chronic health care 
deficiencies in Indian country. Native people acquired and died of this 
disease at some of the highest rates in the Nation. This is because we 
suffer from comorbidities at higher rates, and because Indian country 
lacks access to adequate healthcare and basic community infrastructure. 
These same health inequities facing Native people are also exacerbating 
the current mental health and addiction crisis.
    For the current year, Congress funded the IHS Services Clinical 
Services account at $4.46 billion, an increase of $27.7 million over 
the FY 2023 enacted level-in other words, an increase of 6/10 of one 
percent. For FY 2025, the Administration proposes $5.12 billion, a 
proposed increase of $664 million, or what would be nearly a 15% 
increase over the FY 2024 level.
    Within the FY 2024 funding amount of $130 million for IHS Mental 
Health needs across Indian country, the Fort Peck Tribes receive 
$132,205 (about 1/10 of one percent). Within the FY 2024 funding amount 
of $267 million for the IHS Alcohol and Substance Abuse Program across 
Indian country, the Fort Peck Tribes receive $1.77 million (6/10 of one 
percent). It is not enough, and we urge the subcommittee to appropriate 
funds commensurate with the documented needs.
    I do not know how to describe the level of our needs other than to 
say that modest budget increases cannot begin to address the shortage 
of health professionals and the shortage of long- term and in-patient 
substance use disorder (SUD) programs our Tribe requires to address the 
mental health and substance use needs of our Tribal citizens.
    The addiction crisis at Fort Peck is fueled by opioids, 
specifically fentanyl, the availability on the Reservation of which has 
skyrocketed over the last several years. This is true across Indian 
country in Montana, where the opioid death rate for Indian people is 
twice that of non-Indians.\1\
    At Fort Peck, we have the Spotted Bull Recovery Resource Center 
(SBRRC) that serves as the Tribal SUD program. We provide best 
practices, evidence-based and culturally appropriate prevention, 
intervention and treatment services primarily related to substance 
misuse, complemented by mental health services to patients who present 
with SUD needs. We provide services according to the American Society 
of Addiction Medication (ASAM) levels of care.
    Our program offers four levels of care: Level 0.5 (Prevention and 
Education); Level 1.0 (Outpatient); Level 2.1 (Intensive Outpatient); 
and Level 3.1 (Day Treatment). We make referrals to higher levels of 
care involving primary residential inpatient treatment programs that we 
do not offer on the Fort Peck Reservation. I wish it were otherwise.
    At SBRRC, we offer the following services:

  --10 hours of individual/group therapy per week;
  --2 hours of Level 0.5 Early Intervention per week;
  --2 hours of Anger Management related to SUD;
  --2 hours of Recovery Support per week;
  --2 hours of Family Programming per week;
  --4 hours of Clinical Staffing per week;
  --2 hours of Community Education/Outreach bi-weekly; and
  --4 hours of Prime for Life programming.

    We urge the subcommittee to devote additional appropriations to IHS 
mental health and substance misuse programs so that outpatient and 
inpatient treatment services can be greatly expanded and made widely 
available on our Reservation and across Indian country.
    Furthermore, the Tribes contracted the IHS Dental and Public Health 
Nursing Program last fall. We are still working to establish Tribal 
servers and a Dentrix System independent of the IHS. We work daily to 
provide quality dental and PHN services with the few dentists, 
hygienists and PHN professionals we are able to employ. We urge the 
subcommittee to consider more than a 1.7% increase ($4.4 million) in FY 
2025 for the IHS Dental Health Program budget of $248 million and more 
than a 1% increase ($1.2 million) in FY 2025 for the IHS Public Health 
Nursing Program.
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    \1\ See Tribal Leaders Sound the Alarm, NPR (June 1, 2022), https:/
/www.npr.org/sections/health- shots/2022/06/01/1101799174/tribal-
leaders-sound-the-alarm-after-fentanyl-overdoses-spike-at-blackfeet-
nation.
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    1. Law Enforcement--One of the main symptoms of the fentanyl crisis 
on the Fort Peck Reservation has been a corresponding rise in crime on 
the Reservation. We have seen an increase in crime across the board, 
but especially in property crime and violent crime-including sexual and 
other violent assaults, kidnapping and homicide. Crimes at Fort Peck 
are being committed by and against every demographic within our 
community. Just last September, the Tribal Executive Board issued a 
State of emergency due to the severe increase in juvenile crime. Our 
Police Chief estimates that at least 80% of criminal conduct on the 
Reservation relates back somehow to drugs. For example, a perpetrator 
may have been high when they committed the crime, they may have 
committed the crime to secure money to purchase drugs, or they may have 
committed the crime in retaliation for something related to drug use or 
distribution.
    The Fort Peck Tribes have provided law enforcement and correctional 
services on our Reservation since 1996 under an Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act contract.
    BIA law enforcement must be fully funded so that Tribes like ours 
can attract, hire and retain more law enforcement personnel to live and 
work in our community. For FY 2024, Congress appropriated $274 million 
for the BIA's Public Safety and Justice Program's Criminal 
Investigations and Police Services Account, the same funding level as 
FY 2023. We are losing Tribal police due to burnout and the higher 
salaries and better benefits that surrounding State and county law 
enforcement programs can offer.
    We urge this Congress to pass this session the ``Parity for Tribal 
Law Enforcement Act'' to provide increased salaries and fringe benefits 
to Tribal law enforcement similar to other Federal law enforcement 
officers. Crime doesn't stop at our Reservation boundaries. We are not 
insulated and neither are surrounding areas. We must do better by our 
first responders. I ask this subcommittee to include Tribal public 
safety needs in the FY 2025 budget.
    2. Tribal Court Funding--Similarly, BIA must increase funding for 
Tribal justice systems. As Congress has known for years based on 
thorough, bipartisan study, the most effective law enforcement is 
locally determined and administered, and thus reflective of local 
values-in Indian country this means tribally determined and 
administered and reflective of Tribal values.\2\ At Fort Peck, we have 
always known that strong Tribal government is the best way to keep our 
community safe.
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    \2\ See generally A Roadmap for Making Native America Safer: Report 
to the President & Congress of the United States, Indian Law & Order 
Commission (Nov. 2013), available at https://www.aisc.ucla.edu/iloc/
report/files/A_Roadmap_For_Making_Native_America_Safer-Full.pdf.
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    It is for that reason that, for more than fifty years now, the Fort 
Peck Tribes have had an independent judicial system, including an 
appellate court. Our Tribal court system includes law- trained judges, 
law-trained prosecutors and public defenders, probation officers and 
experienced court clerks and court reporters. Our Tribal code is 
published and publicly available. We are also one of a small number of 
Tribal court systems exercising expanded jurisdiction and enhanced 
sentencing under VAWA and the Tribal Law and Order Act.
    This kind of work requires additional resources to attract, hire 
and retain skilled professionals and provide high-level services to all 
the individuals and families in the system. That is why I ask Congress 
to significantly increase funding for Tribal courts in the FY 2025 
budget.
    3. Housing--It is important that sufficient BIA funding be 
dedicated to addressing the social conditions on the Reservation that 
are interrelated with many of the problems we see with the mental 
health and drug crisis, the Reservation crime rate and health 
disparities within our community-and one such area for this is housing. 
We have a significant shortage of housing at Fort Peck. In many cases, 
we have multiple families living in a single home. There is 
overcrowding. This means that exposure to illness and unhealthy 
behaviors is unavoidable for many people, especially children. We must 
have greater funding to increase housing on the Reservation for 
families, to increase housing for people in recovery so that they do 
not go homeless during such a critical time (or return to homes where 
they may endanger others if they experience a relapse or other crisis), 
and to enable Tribes to better be able to recruit professionals to live 
and work in our community-especially teachers, law enforcement and 
healthcare professionals. Importantly, housing funding must include the 
resources so that new developments are built with access to basic 
infrastructure like water, sewer, electricity and broadband.
    Additionally, the BIA Housing Improvement Program (HIP) is 
insufficiently funded to address housing needs on the Reservation for 
the least well off. FY 2024 funding was $12 million. We understand, 
however, that the Tiwahe Initiative Program provides greater 
flexibility regarding Tiwahe HIP funding than the BIA HIP Program. We 
urge the subcommittee to increase the Tiwahe Initiative Program to 
benefit more Tribes and trust Tribes to wisely use Tiwahe Initiative 
funds to address unmet housing and interim housing needs of our 
members.
    4. Social Services & ICWA Funding--Our Tribal Social Services 
program has needed increased funding for some time, as our former 
chairman testified about last year. For FY 2024, Congress cut BIA 
Social Services about 2% below the FY 2023 level of $167 million. Our 
needs have only grown over the last year, particularly in light of the 
mental health and substance misuse issues I have highlighted. These 
issues have hit young adults, many of whom are parents, particularly 
hard and are thus exacerbating the stress put on our already thinly 
stretched social services providers and programs. Our families need 
additional wraparound and preventive social services support so that 
their children do not enter the foster care system. And for those 
children who do enter the system, we must have greater funding to 
recruit and retain licensed foster care homes on the Reservation.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify.

    [This statement was submitted by Dana Buckles, Councilman 
Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes of the Fort Peck Reservation.]
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   Prepared Statement of the Friends of Blackwater National Wildlife 
                              Refuge Inc.
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge, Inc., which was formed in 1987 to 
support the Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge near Cambridge, 
Maryland. We appreciate the opportunity to offer comments on the FY 
2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request that this subcommittee 
allocate $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance under the United States Fish and Wildlife 
Service (USFWS).
    Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge (NWR) was established in 1933 
as a waterfowl sanctuary for birds migrating along the Atlantic Flyway. 
It is home to an incredible amount of plant and animal diversity in its 
three major habitats--forest, marsh and shallow water. The Refuge 
contains one-third of Maryland's tidal wetlands, which makes it an 
ecologically important area within the state. These wetlands also 
provide storm protection to lower Dorchester County, including the city 
of Cambridge. Blackwater NWR is recognized as a ``Wetland of 
International Importance'' by the Ramsar Convention and was named a 
priority wetland in the North American Waterfowl Management Plan. In 
addition, the Refuge has been designated as an Internationally 
Important Bird Area. Blackwater NWR is home to the largest natural 
population of formerly endangered Delmarva peninsula fox squirrels and 
is also home to the largest breeding population of American bald eagles 
on the east coast, north of Florida. Blackwater NWR encompasses over 
33,000 acres, including an area believed to be the birthplace of 
Harriet Tubman.
    The Friends of Blackwater NWR (FOB) assists the Refuge with its 
environmental education, recreation, biological, and wildlife 
conservation programs in hopes of making the visitor experience the 
best that it can be. Over the past couple of years, visitation 
increased over 27% to over 233,000 visitors. Along with volunteering, 
we provide annual bus transportation and supplies for the Refuge 
environmental education program for all 4th and 6th graders in 
Dorchester County's public schools. FOB supports the maintenance of 
four Refuge hiking trails and over 20 miles of water trails. FOB 
recently supported studies of deer and bat populations on the Refuge 
and provided funds for tree planting projects. We operate five web 
cameras overlooking a bald eagle nest, two osprey nests and two 
waterfowl impoundments. In addition, FOB conducts monthly ``Night Sky 
Tours'' using a telescope we installed at the Refuge Visitor Center. 
FOB supports the annual Eagle Festival, Kids Fishing Event, and the 
Junior Duck Stamp Competition for Maryland. In recent years, the Refuge 
has sought support for other things out of the normal realm--like a 
mowing contract, new gutters on the environmental education building, a 
cleaning contract for the Visitor Center and Headquarters buildings, a 
well repair for managing the waterfowl impoundments, repair of the 
Marsh Edge Trail pavilion, and acquiring an intern for the Visitor 
Services program. In the 20 years I've been volunteering at Blackwater 
NWR, I've watched the Refuge workforce continue to dwindle, being asked 
to do more with less.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units, 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors--
an increase of 47% since FY2011. While these additions have enhanced 
the Refuge System and benefitted the communities around these Refuges, 
this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed and 
underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere 62 cents 
per acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased!
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)--already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at about 2,500 FTEs--has 
decreased by 16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the 
Refuge System to manage its vast network of lands and waters and to 
fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and habitats. The 
insufficient funding and capacity impacts are felt System-wide, 
impacting conservation planning, wildlife and habitat management, 
visitor services, law enforcement, and maintenance. No refuges are 
fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero staff on site. 
Multiple refuges have been closed to the public and are completely 
unmanaged. Many employees must manage multiple wildlife refuge units, 
sometimes traveling hundreds of miles per day. Many volunteer programs 
have also been cut back or eliminated due to lack of supervision from 
professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step toward that goal
    Thank you for your consideration, and please feel free to contact 
Richard Abend, the President of the Friends of Blackwater NWR, at 1111 
Taylors Island Road, Madison, Maryland 21648, email rdabend@yahoo.com, 
or cell phone 443-521-2201

    [This statement was submitted by Richard Abend, President, Friends 
of Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge, Inc.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of the Front Range Wildlife Refuges
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of the 
Front Range Wildlife Refuges, which was formed in 2013 to support the 
Rocky Mountain Arssenal National Wildlife Refuge. We appreciate the 
opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in 
funding for National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance 
account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Friends of the Front Range Wildlife Refuges (FFRWR) is a 501(c)(3) 
nonprofit organization founded in 2007 to support Colorado's two 
largest National Wildlife Refuges, Rocky Mountain Arsenal (RMANWR) and 
Rocky Flats (RFNWR) National Wildlife Refuges. FFRWR is part of the 
National Wildlife Refuge Association & Coalition of Refuge Friends & 
Advocates. These ``Friends'' groups raise funds for education programs, 
habitat restoration, community partnerships, and special outreach 
events.
    Friends envisions a space rich in natural and intercultural 
diversity that furthers environmental education and recreation for 
Front Range communities. Our mission is to support and advocate for the 
conservation and restoration of Rocky Mountain Arsenal and Rocky Flats 
National Wildlife Refuges and provide opportunities for the public to 
experience wildlife near a major metropolitan area in the form of 
volunteering, events, environmental education, and more.
    Ongoing programming Friends supports at RMANWR includes family and 
community programs and events and programs including the Pollinator 
Garden and Black-Footed Ferret Exhibit, Historical Egli House 
Restoration and Development, and host location of the Generation Wild 
Northeast Metro Coalition (GenWild NEMC) Youth Council program.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    The Projects Leaders and Visitor Services Manager at RMANWR are 
incredibly dedicated and hard-working individuals who are committed to 
fostering a connection to wildlife for future generations.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Vanessa Thurk, the General Manager of the Friends of the Front Range 
Wildlife Refuges at Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge.

    [This statement was submitted by Vanessa Thurk, General Manager, 
Friends of the Front Range Wildlife Refuges.]
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 Prepared Statement of Friends of Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of Friends of Great 
Swamp National Wildlife Refuge, which was formed in 1999 to support 
Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge. We appreciate the opportunity to 
submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations 
bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for 
National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge, a hardwood swamp relic of the 
Wisconsin glacial Lake Passaic, located in north-central New Jersey, 
was founded in 1960 as the result of a years-long campaign in 
opposition to the proposal of the Port Authority of New York and New 
Jersey to fill in the swamp to build a fourth jetport in the New York 
Metropolitan area. Local citizenry fought to preserve the swamp and 
acquired over 3,000 acres of swampland and presented it to the USFWS as 
the initial landholding of the refuge. The Refuge is currently nearly 
8,000 acres, which includes a wildlife management area and 3,000 acres 
of the first Congressionally designated wilderness in the National 
Wildlife Refuge System. It provides critical habitat for the endangered 
Bog Turtle, the Red-shouldered Hawk and the Spotted Salamander. It is a 
stopping place for migrating waterfowl, warblers and other seasonal 
migrants. 244 different bird species have been identified on the 
Refuge. Great Swamp NWR is home to 39 species of mammals, 12 species of 
turtles and 12 species of snakes.
    The Refuge is 26 miles from Times Square, NYC, and is surrounded by 
suburbs. It is within easy driving distance of both the New York and 
Philadelphia Metropolitan areas. It includes approximately 11 miles of 
hiking trails, in both the management and wilderness areas. The Refuge 
averages about 250,000 visitors per year.
    Friends of Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge (``Friends'') was 
incorporated as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit in 1999. It supports and assists 
the refuge by providing volunteers to staff the Helen C. Fenske Visitor 
Center, which includes a nature shop, and the Wildlife Observation 
Center, which includes boardwalks and trails. A construction crew aids 
the refuge in building and maintaining trails and boardwalks. The 
Friends, which is an entirely volunteer organization, provides an array 
of programs for the public, including a Fall Festival, birding and 
wildlife programs, lectures, service opportunities, and hosting school, 
scout and community groups. Friends have partnered with local 
organizations, including Groundwork Elizabeth, to bring underserved 
children and adults into nature settings. The Friends have two separate 
invasive species removal groups which regularly provide invasive 
species control, as well as a GardenKeepers group that plant native 
species, as needed. The Friends organization supports the operations of 
the refuge staff, donating between 15,000 and 18,000 hours per year 
(the equivalent of 8-9 FTEs).
    To provide a local perspective on the devastation continued budget 
cuts have caused, in 1999, when the Friends group was formed, the 
Refuge had 14 full-time employees. In 2005, the Refuge was complexed as 
one of four refuges in three States (New Jersey, New York and 
Pennsylvania). With the allocation of USFWS employees across the four 
refuges, Great Swamp NWR currently has the equivalent of only 5 full-
time employees! To appreciate the scope of this deficiency even 
further, it is noted that Great Swamp NWR currently has no single full-
time, on-site USFWS staff. In fact, there are only 13 full-time 
equivalents across the entire four refuge, multi-State complex. One 
wage grade maintenance employee recently took a position outside the 
Refuge System and there are no plans to fill the position due to lack 
of funds. The Complex has one law enforcement officer and only one 
visitor services specialist. The Friends have 160 volunteers who help 
provide services, but because of the loss of staff, personnel can no 
longer provide adequate supervision. As a result, volunteers cannot 
pursue needed projects as there are insufficient staff to advise and 
monitor. Habitat restoration goals cannot be met, participation in 
meaningful research is stymied, and collaboration with partners in 
conservation becomes a luxury, rather than standard operating 
procedure. The lack of funding is creating a situation that can only 
result in the failure of refuges to maintain habitat and encourage 
appreciation for and enjoyment of our natural resources.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. If you have any questions or 
would like added information, please contact Thomas Gula, President of 
Friends of Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge at tomgula@gmail.com.

    [This statement was submitted by Thomas Gula, President, Friends of 
Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of Hakalau Forest National Wildlife 
                                 Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge to support the Hakalau Forest 
National Wildlife Refuge (NWR) in Hawaii and the National Wildlife 
Refuge System nationwide. We appreciate the opportunity to submit 
comments on the fiscal year 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We 
request Congress to allocate $602.3 million, the amount requested by 
the President, to support the National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance under the United States Fish and Wildlife 
Service.
    The future of native forest birds in Hawaii has never been more 
dire. Conditions have reached a crisis point, with all the rare and 
endangered species at critically low populations. Extinction of some of 
these species is a real possibility in the next few years. Conditions 
at Hakalau Forest National NWR are more favorable than other refuges in 
Hawaii but could reach a crisis point in the next 5-10 years unless we 
can reverse the trends. Indeed, the upper elevations of Hakalau Forest 
NWR are perhaps the only safe refuge for many of the endangered birds 
because most of the reserve is located at relatively high elevations 
currently free from avian malaria.
    Hakalau Forest NWR was established in 1985 by the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service. It consists of two distinct parcels. The Hakalau 
Forest Unit is a 32,830 acre parcel on the windward slopes of Mauna Kea 
on Hawai'i Island. The other parcel is a 15,448 acre unit south of 
Kailua-Kona on the slopes of Mauna Loa, which is called the Kona Forest 
Unit.
    The higher elevation Hakalau Forest Unit contains some of the 
finest remaining stands of native montane rain forest in Hawai'i and 
habitat for 29 critically endangered species including seven birds, one 
insect, one mammal and 20 plants found nowhere else in the world. 
Currently, it is the only place in Hawai'i where native forest bird 
populations are stable or increasing.
    The lower elevation Kona Forest Unit is predominantly 'ohi'a 
(Metrosideros polymorpha) trees with an understory of nonnative trees 
and shrubs and home to a number of endangered birds, plants and one 
insect. This area was home to the last wild pair of ?alala (Corvus 
hawaiiensis) in 2002. The primary purpose of this unit is to protect, 
conserve and manage this native forest for threatened or endangered 
species.
    Volunteers and staff have restored approximately 5,000 acres of 
koa-ohia forest over the last four decades at Hakalau Forest. This has 
had a profound impact on habitat improvement as well as carbon 
sequestration. Awareness of the plight of the native forest birds has 
never been greater.
    Avian Malaria and Avian Pox, transmitted by introduced mosquitoes, 
are perhaps the most imminent and substantial threats to forest birds 
in refuges throughout the Hawaiian Islands. This threat is accelerating 
with the uphill movement of mosquitoes due to warming climate. Efforts 
to control/eliminate avian disease are underway on Kauai, Oahu and 
Maui. The use of a technique involving Wolbachia infused mosquitoes to 
control mosquito breeding has been shown to be locally effective but is 
not a viable long-term solution. More cost-effective, long-term means 
of control are needed.
    Loss/damage to the native forest habitat in both the Hakalau Forest 
and the Kona Forest units is also a major threat. Introduced ungulates 
(pigs, cattle, sheep, goats) continue to do significant harm to the 
sensitive habitats the native birds and plants depend upon. Introduced 
predators, such as feral cats, mongoose, and rats, also pose a 
substantial threat to native forest birds at all refuges in Hawaii.
    Hakalau Forest NWR and its surroundings offer the best hope for 
survival of native forest birds throughout the Islands. Most of the 
Hakalau Forest lands are at higher elevations than other native forests 
(i.e. less accessible to mosquitoes) and active management is stemming 
the tide of habitat damage to the forest floor by ungulates and 
invasive plants. The Kona Forest unit is not as actively managed, and 
in both units controlling mosquitoes, feral pigs, feral cattle, feral 
sheep, and predators is a relentless challenge.
    Volunteers recruited by the Friends currently work to help plant 
trees and shrubs and offer other assistance to Fish and Wildlife 
Service (FWS) staff to support tree planting, visitations, and other 
special projects. They are doing a terrific job, but additional Federal 
support for staffing and maintenance activities is desperately needed. 
Fencing to keep out ungulates needs to be regularly inspected and 
repaired is perhaps the greatest challenge, and the removal of invasive 
species in both units is a never-ending task.
    The Friends are working on developing a Visitor Services Plan to 
enhance access and visitor experiences and staff support at Hakalau 
Forest NWR. This plan would provide a small visitor/education center 
with restrooms, storage facilities, a suitable parking area, shelters 
for observing wildlife, and other amenities that do not exist today. 
Currently, there are no bathrooms or handwashing facilities for 
visitors or staff. Increasing opportunities for public visitation and 
education is an essential component in support of the Refuge system and 
its overall objectives. There are currently no funds in the 
Administrative Budget Request for such facilities.
    The conservation of the endangered and other native plants and 
animals at Hakalau Forest will require more support at the National 
level. Considering inflation, annual fixed costs, and increased 
salaries and other needs of the Refuge System, the Refuge System budget 
has effectively decreased since FY2010. This has made it difficult for 
the Refuge System to manage its vast network of lands and waters and to 
fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and habitats, including 
those in Hawaii.
    We are doing our very best to support Hakalau NWR to address the 
plight of native forest birds, and to preserve and protect the forest 
and other wildlife in Hawaii, but your support is needed to effectively 
manage the system in Hawaii and the Refuge System nationwide.
    We urge Congress to address these funding challenges to ensure that 
the USFWS is equipped to effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, 
programs, and support staff and visitors at Hakalau Forest and all the 
other refuges throughout the US that rely on the health and integrity 
of the Refuge System. The President's FY2025 Budget Request is an 
important step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request that you support $602.3 
million, as requested by the President, for operations at the National 
Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact me, 
President of the Friends of Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge, at 
debbieanderson808@gmail.com should you have any questions.

Mahalo!

    [This statement was submitted by Deborah J. Anderson, President, 
Friends of Hakalau National Wildlife Refuge.]
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    Prepared Statement of Friends of Heinz Refuge Board of Directors
    This provides testimony on behalf of the Board of Directors and 
Members of the Friends of the Heinz RefugeFriends of Heinz Refuge Board 
of Directors (FOHR) by Carol Armstrong, Ph.D., Secretary of the Board 
of Directors. The Friends was formed in 1997 to support the John Heinz 
National Wildlife Refuge. We appreciate the opportunity to offer 
comments on the FY 2025 U. S. Senate Appropriations.
    The FOHR is a non-profit charitable organization that works in 
partnership with the Refuge to connect people with nature, and promote 
a culture of environmental stewardship through education for all that 
also reaches children from low-income communities, and through 
outreach, service, and nature-based recreation for the conservation of 
wildlife and habitat.
    The John Heinz National Wildlife Refuge (JHNWR) is in the nexus of 
the Delaware River, Schuylkill River, and Tinicum Marsh--the largest 
remaining tidal marsh in Pennsylvania. It provides key environmental 
services by absorbing water during storm surges that otherwise would 
make the communities completely unlivable around Tinicum Marsh and 
Darby Creek, and which would otherwise flood the Philadelphia 
International Airport. It also provides cleaner air, protects drinking 
water drawn from the Delaware River, protects the Delaware Estuary, and 
is critical in the conservation and enhancement of biodiversity. It is 
a bird migration superhighway that provides safe forage and breeding 
areas for migrating birds along the Atlantic Flyway. It is home to over 
360 birds, such as this year's breeding Bald Eagles, the National Bird. 
The increased funding from FY 2025 appropriations would greatly impact 
this National Refuge by allowing them to hire needed staff for basic 
operations, repair infrastructure damage from storms, restore the 
confluence wetlands of the Delaware River watershed, complete watershed 
restoration, and build out environmental education programs.
    The 10 miles of hiking trails in the Refuge remained open for 
outdoor nature experiences for visitors during the covid-19 pandemic 
and all year round, which was so severely needed and for which 
Philadelphians and the 5,821,000 people who live in the total 
metropolitan area. flocked in record numbers to the Refuge during the 
pandemic. About 150,000 to 250,000 people visit the Refuge each year, 
which is heavy use and requires intensive management of facilities, 
educational programs, and visitor services along with the wildlife and 
watershed restoration programs that are carried out every year. In 
addition, there are storms each year that cause damage to the trails 
and water control structures that require repairs. The Refuge provides 
environmental and natural resource goods and services to people in the 
categories of:

    1. Maintenance and conservation of environmental resources, 
services, and ecological processes,

    2. Protection of natural resources such as fish, wildlife, and 
plants;

    3. Protection of cultural and historical sites and objects;

    4. Provision of educational and research opportunities; and

    5. Outdoor and wildlife-related recreation.

Boardwalk at John Heinz National Wildlife Refuge, 2023

In Summary:

    Rising fixed costs eat into the increases in appropriations and as 
a result do not keep up with inflation, so that Refuges are actually 
losing support every year. The Refuge System actually needs $2.2 
billion to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, connect 
communities to nature, and provide opportunities for wildlife dependent 
recreation. The President's FY 2025 request for $602 million is an 
important step towards that goal.
    The National Wildlife Refuge System was our country's first 
systematic program to protect biodiversity and climate resilient 
habitats, and meet the needs for expanding wildlife dependent 
recreation nationwide. The 588 Refuges are staffed by highly 
knowledgeable, dedicated, and committed individuals, but Refuge staff 
are under too much pressure and we are losing staff at a concerning 
rate without needed funding to rehire. Refuge law enforcement officers 
patrol an average of 440,00 dry acres per officer, and some States have 
no officers. The actual need for program staff is more than twice what 
was funded in FY2022; for example, we need 152 Conservation Planning 
specialists in FY2025 rather than 16 in FY2022; 1,595 Visitor Services 
specialists in FY2025 rather than 470 in FY2022; and 3,840 Wildlife and 
Habitat Management specialists in FY 2025 rather than 1,201 in FY2022.
    During the frequent and severe hurricanes and tropical storms of 
the past several years, the JHNWR sustained major damage to its hard 
structures, while the plantings survived, showing the importance of 
natural processes in becoming resilient to climate change. This refuge 
has geothermal facilities, and solar panels that were undamaged and are 
needed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The U. S. Fish & Wildlife 
Service work efficiently, consistently, and untiringly in their mission 
to provide all of this to the American people.
    However, their efforts require more support from Congress to enable 
them to recover from the damage caused by increasingly intense storms, 
because at the same time, they are stabilizing the region in the face 
of these storms. The Refuge System has accumulated (1) needs for 
repairs from storms and heavy public usage, and (2) pro-active work to 
become more resilient to climate change. They have been undestaffed and 
undermaintained, and are desperately in need of more funding. The 
requested large increase in funding is critical to the health and 
capabilities of the Refuge System, and retention of staff.
    Economically, the JHNWR also makes local contributions through 
economic output to resident and non-resident visitors, jobs, job 
income, and State and local tax revenue (cf The Economic Contributions 
of Recreational Visitation at John Heinz National Wildlife Refuge at 
Tinicum, May 2019, Div. of Economics, U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service.)
    Wildlife refuges are economic engines for their communities, yet 
the biggest challenge facing the Refuge System is a lack of funding. 
Each Refuge requires tailored management to protect its rich and 
diverse wildlife habitat, but faces a stark lack of staff. Since 
FY2010, when the budget was the same ($503 million) as it is today in 
FY2021, 3,500 staffers worked to maintain and protect the Refuge 
System. Today, that number is under 2,500, an enormous 30% loss in 
capacity.
    Due to years of low budget allocations, the funding gap has 
degraded critical wildlife habitat and imperiled important species. The 
number of wage grade staff have declined by 50% in the last 20 years to 
a level of just 500. These staff move the water, maintain the roads, 
and support all the infrastructure involved in Refuge management. 
Without them, roads are not repaired, trails are lost, wetlands do not 
receive the necessary water to grow food for migratory birds, invasive 
species management is neglected, and buildings (fishing piers, bridges, 
etc.) fall into disrepair.
    Refuge staff are working with escalating urgency to try to 
compensate for the lack of staffing, maintenance, and operations 
support, as they are incredibly stoic and are dedicated to their 
purpose with a great deal of grit. However, those of us who support the 
Refuges, can see the desperate situations they are in.
    Thank you for your consideration, and please feel free to contact 
the President of the Friends of Heinz Refuge.

    [This statement was submitted by Carol Armstrong, Ph.D., Secretary 
of the Board of Directors, Friends of the Heinz Refuge.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of Louisiana Wildlife Refuges, Inc.
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Louisiana Wildlife Refuges, Inc. (FLWR), which was formed in 1967 and 
continues today, to support the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS) in eight National Wildlife Refuges (NWRs) totaling over 135,000 
acres within the a) Southeast Louisiana NWR Complex and b) the Bayou 
Sauvage Urban NWR Complex of the NWR System in Southeastern and South-
Central Louisiana. We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on 
the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request 
Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for the NWR System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the USFWS. In addition, we ask 
that the focus of funding be toward increasing staffing of the USFWS to 
adequately address stewardship of not only the wildlife refuges in our 
two Complexes but NWRs nationwide.
    As stated in our bylaws, the purpose of FLWR, which has a mailing 
list of over 800 citizens, is to promote better awareness, appreciation 
and conservation of the refuges in our two Complexes and to work with 
other agencies and organizations to assist in the educational, 
interpretative and environmental projects of the USFWS.
    There are many highlights within the Southeast Louisiana NWR 
Complex and the Bayou Sauvage Urban Refuge Complex, which provide 
astounding environmental resources and opportunities for recreation, 
fishery, hunting and tourism.
The Southeast Louisiana NWR Complex

  --Atachafalaya NWR is recognized as a ``Globally Important Bird 
        Area'' by the American Bird Conservancy for sightings of birds, 
        habitat for migratory waterfowl and nesting of wood ducks. 
        Hunting for white-tail deer and fishing for crawfish are 
        important here.

  --Big Branch Marsh NWR supports a population of the endangered red-
        cockaded woodpeckers, numerous species of native wildflowers, 
        marsh grasses for the cover and nesting of birds and habitat 
        for migrating birds.

  --Bogue Chitto NWR is used annually by thousands for fishing, 
        hunting, hiking, photography, primitive camping and 
        observations of birds and mammals and possibly four threatened 
        or endangered species.

  --Breton NWR persistently provides vital habitat for species of shore 
        birds, sea birds and seasonally large populations ducks. 
        Hunting and crabbing are permitted.

  --Cat Island NWR is designated as an ``Important Bird Area'' by the 
        National Audubon Society and includes the National Champion 
        Bald Cypress Tree. Visitor opportunities include hunting, 
        fishing, canoeing/kayaking, hiking, photography and wildlife 
        observation.

  --Delta NWF is the food source for fish, waterfowl and other animals. 
        It is important as a wintering habitat and sanctuary migratory 
        for birds and hundreds of thousands of snow geese and ducks. 
        Hunting and fishing are allowed.

The Bayou Sauvage Urban NWR Complex

  --Bayou Sauvage Urban NWR, the second-largest, urban wildlife refuge 
        in the United States, is only thirty minutes from downtown New 
        Orleans, LA. Throughout a year, 340 species of birds including 
        the American bald utilize this refuge. Presently, canoeing, 
        hiking, birding and fishing are allowed on the refuge with some 
        restrictions. This refuge may have enormous potential for more 
        economically-friendly development, such as a visitor center.

  --Bayou Teche's primary purpose is to preserve and manage habitat for 
        the Louisiana black bear. Other objectives are to provide habit 
        for additional wildlife and fish, environmental education and 
        recreation. Boating, fishing, hunting, photography and wildlife 
        observation are permitted.

  --Mandalay NWR conserves and protects freshwater marshes and forested 
        habitats for thousands of migratory waterfowl and other birds.

    As stated above, the nine refuges are important to their 
communities by providing educational, recreational, harvesting and 
tourist opportunities to their citizenship. Personnel with the USFWS 
teach at Junior Ranger and home school events, give presentations to 
schools and serve on wildlife boards, such as Delta Waterfowl. 
Recreational opportunities, as mentioned above, are hiking, 
photography, canoeing/kayaking, and observations of wildlife and plants 
at all of the refuges. Harvesting wildlife at many of the refuges is 
through hunting, fishing and crabbing. Tourists from most States and 
overseas visit the refuges to experience the unique ecosystems.
    FLWR supports the refuges and their communities through community 
events, donations to the USFWS, obtainment of grants, and co-staffing a 
Visitor Center at the Headquarters of the Southeast Louisiana NWR 
Complex at Lacombe, LA. With the assistance of one or more personnel of 
the USFWS, we annually host four, major community events including 1) 
Bayou Gardens Open House (450+ attendees), 2) Bogue Chitto Youth 
Fishing Rodeo (125 youth participants, 350+ attendees), 3) Wild Things 
(7,200+ attendees) and Cajun Christmas (500+ attendees). Annually, FLWR 
also participates in nine community activities in Southeast Louisiana 
including 1) Christmas Tree Drop/Bayou Sauvage Urban NWR, 2) Northshore 
Youth Conservation Event/Covington, 3) Big Bass Rodeo and Fishtival/New 
Orleans, 4) Plant Fest/Lacombe, 5) Earth Day/Lacombe, 6) Earth Fest in 
the Dell/Slidell, 7) Step Outside Day/Lacombe, 8) Beach Sweep/Lacombe 
and 9) Walk for the Wild/Lacombe. Within communities our directors are 
a member of and assist with many environmental organizations including: 
Audubon Society, Common Ground Relief, Cornell Lab of Ornithology, 
Delta
    Waterfowl, Ducks Unlimited, Lake Pontchartrain Basin Foundation, 
Louisiana Native Plant Society, Louisiana Master Naturalists, Delta 
Chapter of the Sierra Club, and Wild Ones. Recent donations to the 
USFWS include a laptop with software and materials for demonstrations 
and Christmas decorations for the Visitor Center. Recently, following 
one of the field trips for visitors, we were given a plaque of 
gratitude from the Student Chapter of the Society of Wetland Scientists 
at Louisiana State University. Grants in progress are for an 
educational pollinator garden to demonstrate the value of native plants 
to insects and birds in the community. On Thursdays, Fridays and 
Saturdays our Visitor Center is open to the public to experience the 
sounds and vistas of eight of the refuges. Eventually, we hope to 
obtain funding to portray another refuge, Cat Island NWR, to the 
community. Finally, the FLWR is investigating starting and leading an 
environmentally-oriented Explorer Scout Post for boys and girls between 
14 to 20 years old at a local high school.
    Since 2010, the NWS System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the NWS System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded NWS System.
    Funding for the NWR System has only increased by 4.7% since FY2010 
to $527 million, or $5.55 per land-acre. When accounting for total land 
and water acres, the NWR System budget is a mere 0.62 per acre. 
Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and increased 
needs of the NWR System since FY2010, the NWR System budget has 
effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs) already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the NWR System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the NWR System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the NWR System. Ultimately, 
the NWR System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations to 
effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for 
wildlife-dependent recreation and connect communities to nature. The 
President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the NWR 
System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact William C. Trimble, 
President of the Friends of Louisiana Wildlife Refuges, Inc., at 
wctrirnble@yahoo.com or 334-663-5854.

    [This statement was submitted by William C. Trimble, President 
Friends of Louisiana Wildlife Refuges, Inc.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which was formed in 1999 to support 
the Oregon refuge of the same name. We request that Congress allocate 
$602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Our group does not make this request lightly. Malheur is a large 
refuge, containing over 290 square miles of critical habitat, and it 
holds iconic status as one of our Nation's oldest refuges and as a 
critical stop for migratory birds. In the twenty-five years since our 
organization was established, we have sought to support and enhance the 
refuge's operations and the visitor experiences that make it such a 
special place. Our thousand members care deeply about Malheur and show 
their support through cash donations and volunteer work group 
participation. This allows us to do everything from funding student 
interns to work with government staff to assisting with the refuge's 
trail and fencing needs. We also operate a nature store and information 
station at refuge headquarters that provides an important visitor 
service.
    In recent years, Malheur, like nearly all other Federal wildlife 
refuges, has seen annual reductions and erosion of its funding. This 
trend simply cannot be sustained without real damage to the refuge's 
natural resources and even more loss of public use and enjoyment. 
Groups like the one represented by this letter do not have the 
capacityto fill the resulting gaps. The scale of these reductions only 
makes full sense when the cuts to the entire refuge system are laid 
out.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    This level of funding is, quite simply an embarrassing failure for 
all those who endorse it. America's National Wildlife Refuge system 
deserves better.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. We know that many other 
organizations are making the same recommendation, and we urge you to 
listen to this groundswell of public opinion.
    Please feel free to contact me if I may be of further assistance to 
the committee.

William C. Tweed, Board President
Friends of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
559-786-6649
wtweed@bendbroadband.com

    [This statement was submitted by William Tweed, Board Chair, 
Friends of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of the Mid-Columbia River National 
                        Wildlife Refuge Complex
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of the 
Mid-Columbia River National Wildlife Refuge Complex, which was formed 
in 2001 to support seven (7) U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services refuges 
(McNary, Conboy Lake, Toppenish, Cold Springs, Columbia, McKay Creek, 
Umatilla) and the Hanford Reach National Monument, all in eastern 
Washington State. We appreciate the opportunity to offer comments on 
the FY 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. With this written testimony, 
we are requesting that Congress allocate $602.3 million in funding for 
the National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). Our reasons 
for supporting this action are given below.
    Our Friends group works closely with Refuge staff on many projects, 
including wildlife habitat remediation, environmental education 
including field trips for the general public, trail maintenance 
(including improved ADA access), and citizen science programs. We know 
from personal experience how hard Refuge staff work to keep these lands 
healthy for wildlife and, where appropriate, open to the public.
    Recent development and extensive construction in our area has 
resulted in the loss of much valuable habitat. Similar issues on a 
national level are resulting in a reduction in the population of many 
species. The Mid-Columbia River National Wildlife Refuge Complex 
provides critical habitat for hundreds of thousands of waterfowl, 
endangered salmon, and rare/declining species including burrowing owls, 
long-billed curlews, and ferruginous hawks. We feel strongly that the 
Refuge system should continue playing a role in turning around national 
trends, and if we do not act now, we will lose much that we hold 
precious and valuable to our very existence.
    The Mid-Columbia River NWR Complex sees about 100,000 visitors 
annually, including hunters, photographers, birders and naturalists, 
and this number is growing. Despite this increase in use, funding 
constraints have had a significant negative impact on the ability of 
our local Fish and Wildlife Service staff to serve our area. For 
example, staffing at the Complex has decreased from 13 employees in 
2019 to just eight as of this year. And this count does not include the 
reduction in law enforcement staff, which has decreased from three LEs 
shared across two Complexes with seven Refuges and a National Monument 
totaling 250,000 acres, to just one individual.
    It is our understanding that funding for the Refuge System has only 
increased by 4.7% since FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. 
Accounting for total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is 
a mere .62 per acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed 
costs, and increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the 
Refuge System budget has effectively decreased.
    We urge you to address these funding challenges so that the USFWS 
can effectively manage wildlife and habitat programs and also provide 
safe and worthwhile opportunities for the many visitors that use our 
Refuges. The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an 
important step towards that goal.
    Thank you in advance for your support of this important issue and 
providing the necessary funds for the National Wildlife Refuge System 
in FY2025. For clarification or additional details on any of the issues 
raised in this testimony, please contact Carl Berkowitz, Secretary of 
the Friends of The Mid-Columbia River National Wildlife Refuge Complex 
at CDBerkowitz@charter.net.

    [This statement was submitted by Carl Berkowitz, Secretary, Friends 
of the Mid-Columbia River National Wildlife Refuge Complex.]
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  Prepared Statement of Friends of Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony and offer 
comments on the FY 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. My name is Julie 
Filiberti, and I sit on the board of the Friends of Missisquoi National 
Wildlife Refuge, a non-profit organization formed in 2002 to support 
the Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge in Swanton, Vermont. My 
comments in this testimony are on the behalf of this organization. We 
request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for National 
Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account under the 
United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    The Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge is situated in the 
northwest corner of Vermont on the eastern shore of Lake Champlain. It 
is made up of lands and waters cared for by the Abenaki for thousands 
of years and is one of only two National Wildlife Refuges in the State 
of Vermont. Missisquoi NWR was established in 1943 to protect habitat 
for migrating waterfowl, and 70 years later, in 2013, was designated as 
a Ramsar Wetland of International Importance. In addition to the main 
parcel located where the Missisquoi River delta feeds into Lake 
Champlain, the 7218 acres of the refuge includes a 457 acre Eagle Point 
Unit in Derby, VT, co-managed with the Vermont Fish and Wildlife 
Department, and a 262 acre tract located in upstate New York. The 
refuge is also responsible for the management and oversight of 376 
acres of Conservation Easement in both Vermont and New York.
    The main parcel of the acreage in northwestern Vermont encompasses 
a variety of habitats. A majority of the refuge is composed of wetlands 
and floodplain forest where the Missisquoi River empties into Lake 
Champlain. This area is the most expansive intact floodplain forest in 
the state. The refuge also contains the largest bog in the northeast, 
the 900-acre Maquam Bog. In addition to these expanses of unique 
habitat, the refuge also contains shrublands and maintains 250 acres of 
managed grasslands. The refuge is an essential resting and feeding 
stopover for migrating ducks, geese, shorebirds, and other water birds. 
It is a haven for 17 state threatened or endangered species, including 
Spiny Softshell turtle, Black Tern, and the recently listed Eastern 
Meadowlark.
    The refuge is utilized for all six of the public use focuses of the 
National Wildlife Refuge system: hunting, fishing, wildlife 
observation, photography, interpretation, and education.
    Because of limited public lands in the area, the trails and 
waterways of the Missisquoi NWR provide the population of northwest 
Vermont with available areas for these outdoor recreation activities in 
all seasons. The Covid pandemic saw a dramatic increase in the usage of 
the refuge as people sought out places to safely immerse themselves in 
the natural world. The refuge lands also provide the habitats for 
important learning and mentoring opportunities for students engaging in 
environmental education. Perhaps most importantly, the Missisquoi 
National Wildlife Refuge, like most refuges in the system, has the 
critical job of protecting and conserving a biologically diverse, 
internationally important, and archaeologically significant area.
    In 2002, the non-profit Friends of Missisquoi National Wildlife 
Refuge, Inc. was formed to support the work at the refuge. Now in our 
22nd year, our small but dedicated group works to bring awareness to 
the refuge through public outreach by organizing educational and fun 
events for the public at large. We provide environmental education 
webinars, presentations, group birding opportunities, and various other 
outdoor events. Through our membership funds and donations, we support 
learning opportunities at the refuge for both students and adults. Our 
financial support also stretches to assist the refuge in acquiring 
grant funding for invasive species control. We work in collaboration 
with the refuge manager to provide financial assistance with any 
projects that do not have funding but are deemed necessary for the 
operation of the refuge.
    It has been many years since the Missisquoi NWR has had adequate 
Federal funding to keep up with its mission to appropriately manage the 
refuge for public use and provide protection for the lands and waters. 
According to the Comprehensive Conservation Plan, the refuge would need 
7 permanent full-time positions to completely function and meet its 
goals. Missisquoi is currently operating with a Refuge Manager, a 
Wildlife Biologist, a regional Administrative Officer, one Maintenance 
Worker, and an occasional seasonal technician. This current level of 
staffing is making operations and maintenance of the refuge difficult.
    The difficulties are seen in many areas. Missisquoi lost its Park 
Ranger in 2018, and the position has yet to be replaced. This critical 
loss, on top of an already short staff, has left a huge hole in the 
educational opportunities available, so our interpretive center and 
spacious classroom sit essentially unused. Many loved long-running 
programs such as the fishing derby and the Jr. Waterfowl Duck Stamp 
program have come to an end without staff to organize them. The refuge 
struggles to find volunteers to operate the visitor's center during the 
workweek, and it remains closed on weekends, which is peak visitation 
on the refuge. The trails and boardwalks are falling into disrepair 
because recruitment, management, and coordination of volunteers and 
supervision of youth programs such as YCC are no longer possible. The 
absence of a Law Enforcement Officer means poaching, vandalism, 
dumping, and drug use are going unchecked since the closest Federal 
officer to respond is in Massachusetts. The State Wardens respond when 
they can, but they cannot fully dedicate themselves to ongoing refuge 
enforcement. Planning for any new projects for the refuge has not been 
possible when even emergency projects are struggling to get done. This 
refuge, with its small staff, is struggling. The Friends of Missisquoi 
contributes when possible, but our small organization with limited 
dollars and limited time, cannot make up for the lack of Federal 
funding or staffing. Like refuges all across the country, ours is 
visibly showing the suffering under a continual lack of appropriate 
Federal funding.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    As you see, the situation at the Missisquoi NWR is not unique. 
Refuges across the country are suffering the same staffing and 
maintenance challenges. We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge 
System and address these overarching funding challenges to ensure that 
the USFWS is equipped to effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, 
programs, and visitorship that rely on the health and integrity of the 
Refuge System. Ultimately, the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 
billion in annual appropriations to effectively fulfill its 
conservation mission, provide opportunities for wildlife-dependent 
recreation, and connect communities to nature. The President's FY2025 
Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important step towards that 
goal.
    The National Wildlife Refuge System is a national treasure in this 
country, providing valuable areas for our citizens to recreate and 
enjoy the great outdoors. In our current world threatened by climate 
change, protecting these critical habitats for wildlife as a whole is 
increasingly important. Refuges are places that provide environmental 
learning opportunities and are areas to immerse oneself in nature's 
wonders, both of which are crucial for future generations to develop an 
appreciation and respect for our natural world. This country's refuge 
system is uniquely set up to effectively protect these important 
habitats, but they need adequate funding to do their job. Dollars spent 
on the National Wildlife Refuge System are a wise investment for our 
country and our world, and I urge you to consider adequately funding 
the System.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Rich Kelley, President of the Friends of Missisquoi, at 
info@friendsofmissisquoi.org if you would like any further information 
regarding our organization.

    [This statement was submitted by Julie Filiberti for the Friends of 
Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge.]
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    Prepared Statement of the Friends of the National Institute of 
                     Environmental Health Sciences
    The Friends of the NIEHS are pleased to submit the following 
testimony regarding Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 Federal appropriations for 
the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies in support of the vital 
work being carried out by the NIH/NIEHS as a result of the annual 
appropriation provided for this work in the subcommittee's bill. We ask 
you to provide at least $89.3 million for the Superfund Research 
program in FY2025.
    Our coalition of organizations represent a variety of interests, 
including medical and scientific professional societies, environment 
and public health focused organizations, children's health advocates, 
women's health advocates, and many others. Collectively, our community 
supports and calls attention to the vital work being done by the 
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). NIEHS, one 
of the component institutes and centers of the National Institutes of 
Health (NIH), focuses on the prevention of health problems and diseases 
with special emphasis on the intimate interactions between our bodies 
and the environments where we live, work, and play over our lifetimes.
    The NIEHS Superfund Program (SRP) supports research to address the 
health impacts from hazardous substances in the environment, develop 
clean-up technologies for hazardous waste, advance new risk assessment 
methods, and train the future generation of scientists to work in 
interdisciplinary research teams to tackle such problems. The SRP 
provides the scientific foundation used by the Worker Training Program 
(WTP) to train hazardous waste workers, to accelerate remediation 
efforts, and to prevent health consequences related to toxicant 
exposure. These programs have provided the safety tools and training to 
transform contaminated sites into new opportunities for residential, 
industrial, and commercial ventures--which means new jobs for the 
surrounding community and new sources of revenue for State and local 
governments.
    The SRP's research portfolio and research successes include:

  --Pregnancy Complications--Researchers at the University of Michigan 
        revealed how exposure to Trichloroethylene (TCE), a widely used 
        industrial chemical frequently found at Superfund sites as a 
        contaminant in soil and groundwater, may have a negative impact 
        on placental growth during pregnancy, which may affect the 
        growth and wellbeing of the baby.

  --Childhood asthma--Researchers at Louisiana State University are 
        investigating how the presence of environmentally persistent 
        free radicals (EPFRs) in household dust is linked to persistent 
        wheeze in children. The presence of these emerging 
        environmental contaminants in settled dust inside the home 
        demonstrates their longevity in the environment and the 
        association between EPFR characteristics and wheeze status 
        points to the involvement of oxidative stress.

  --Hurricanes--Researchers at the Texas A&M University Superfund 
        Research Program Center are developing methods and tools to 
        predict exposure during environmental emergencies, such as the 
        aftermath of Hurricanes Harvey and Florence and to produce 
        applied solutions to mitigate negative effects of environmental 
        disasters on human health. Researchers from Northeastern 
        University are providing water filtration kits and other 
        support to its study participants in Puerto Rico in the 
        aftermath of Hurricanes Irma and Maria. The researchers are 
        investigating links between the high preterm birth rate of 
        11.8% on the island, and the extent of hazardous waste 
        contamination there. Puerto Rico has more than 200 contaminated 
        sites that include 18 active Superfund sites.

  --Groundwater Contaminant Sensing, Tracking and Removal--Researchers 
        at MIT are developing ways of using tiny sensors and smart 
        phones to sense and track the movement of emerging chemical 
        contaminants in the environment. Researchers at the University 
        of California, Berkeley are developing a device for convenient 
        on-site treatment to remove lead and arsenic from drinking 
        water.

  --Addressing PFAS contamination--Researchers at the Brown University, 
        Harvard and Texas A&M SRP Centers and other SRP-sponsored SBIR 
        projects are heavily engaged in addressing legacy and emerging 
        PFAS contamination, providing urgently needed scientific 
        information on exposure sources, toxicity, and clean-up methods 
        to inform policy, and aiding States and impacted communities.

  --Airborne PCBs--Researchers at the Iowa superfund research program 
        are leading efforts to measure exposure to airborne 
        polychlorinated biphenyls and understand how these exposures 
        contribute to children's neurodevelopmental health, metabolic 
        syndrome, and other human health effects.

  --Remediation Efforts--Research teams supported by the University of 
        Kentucky Superfund Research Center are developing intervention 
        and prevention strategies to reduce disease risks from exposure 
        to hazardous chemicals, while also engineering solutions to 
        current and future exposures through innovative technologies. 
        Importantly, the Center, like other SRP funded projects, 
        includes stakeholder engagement activities to ensure that 
        solutions address the unique challenges faced by highly exposed 
        and under-resourced communities.

    To ensure that the critical activities of this program continue to 
advance alongside other important national research priorities, we ask 
the NIH/NIEHS Superfund-related activities receive an increase in 
funding in Fiscal Year 2025 to a total of at least $89.3 million, which 
will help to keep our air, soil, and water safe to improve public 
health, advance private sector job creation, and bolster the economy. 
If the opportunity to meet the current investment needs of the NIEHS 
Superfund Research Program and Worker Training Program is lost, we risk 
reversing a variety of public health, environmental, and economic 
gains. Thank you for considering our request.

    [This statement was submitted by Joseph Laakso, Director of Science 
Policy, Endocrine Society.]
  Prepared Statement of Friends of Neal Smith National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted by me in support of the Friends 
of the Neal Smith NWR near Prairie City, Iowa, a refuge that was 
established in 1990 as the Walnut Creek NWR to reestablish or 
regenerate a tallgrass prairie and oak savanna from row cropland so as 
to be able to answer basic questions and educate the public about the 
native tallgrass prairie lands of the 1840s and to extract valuable 
solutions to agricultural, land and water problems of the 21st century.
    I appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year 
(FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. I request Congress to allocate 
the full $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS) as recommended by the U.S. Dept. of the 
Interior and the National Wildlife Refuge System.
    My Friends organization, the Friends of Neal Smith NWR, has been in 
existence since 1993, grown to 350 supporters, and supplies over 14,000 
volunteer hours to this refuge each year. Our primary purposes are to 
support the refuge and in so doing we have purchased land within the 
12,000-acre boundaries defined by Congress and held it until purchase 
and transfer to the FWS could occur, supported up to 13 interns and 
maintained a nature store with nearly a $100,000 in sales to support 
interns and projects.
    We support collaborative research projects with partners from 
colleges and universities. Supported research included ``prairie 
strips'' for water quality improvement and runoff control and bee 
diversity with the finding that bee species diversity increases four-
fold over row cropped land. Projects included plantings of prairie 
violets and species of milkweed to support the fritillary and the 
monarch. Perhaps the most significant effort is in education. We have 
brought to the refuge some 8,000 students in elementary schools each 
year for age-appropriate environmental education. Of course, this was 
before Covid-19. But during the peak of Covid, refuge visitation 
increased from 240,000 to 320,000 visitors per year placing a strain on 
our ability to manage all these visitors. Today, some 4 years later, we 
have recovered school children visitorship lost during Covid-19 and 
have additional strains on our infrastructure.
    Help! That is what is required. The refuge has lost 77% of its 
original 13 FTE positions. We are fortunate to have a project leader, a 
visitor services and a maintenance position but neither maintenance nor 
our mission and goals can be preserved. It has become discouraging to 
volunteers who have helped so much.
    I am told that since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge 
units and 549 million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres 
for hunting and fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million 
annual visitors-an increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these 
additions have enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities 
around these refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the 
already stressed and underfunded Refuge System.
    Calculations show that funding for the Refuge System has only 
increased by 4.7% since FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. 
When accounting for total land and water acres, the Refuge System 
budget is a mere .62 per acre. Considering the level of inflation, 
annual fixed costs, and increased needs of the Refuge System since 
FY2010, the Refuge System budget has effectively decreased. This has 
led to sparce or non-existent field support, poor customer service, 
increased dependency on volunteer support, biodiversity loss, increased 
vulnerability to climate hazards and decreased conservation 
partnerships.
    Presentations by the DOI show that the number of full-time 
employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the other comparable Federal 
land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 27% since FY2011. This has 
made it difficult for the Refuge System to manage its vast network of 
lands and waters and to fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and 
habitats. The insufficient funding and capacity impacts are felt 
System-wide, impacting conservation planning, wildlife and habitat 
management, visitor services, law enforcement, and maintenance. No 
refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero 
staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to the public and are 
completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage multiple wildlife 
refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles per day. Many 
volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated due to a lack 
of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure.
    Again, I say Please Help!
    I urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering my request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me as a former Board member involved with grants within the Friends of 
Neal Smith NWR in Iowa.

    [This statement was submitted by Prof. James Johnson, Ph.D, Friends 
of Neal Smith National Wildlife Refuge Board Member (Retired) and 
Volunteer.]
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    Prepared Statement of Friends of O`ahu National Wildlife Refuges
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of O`ahu 
National Wildlife Refuges, which was formed in May 2023 to support the 
James Cambell National Wildlife Refuge and the Pearl Harbor National 
Wildlife Refuge. We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on 
the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request 
Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife 
Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account under the United 
States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Our Friends group was organized to provide much needed support to 
the O`ahu National Wildlife Refuge complex. The complex has the only 
urban refuge in the Pacific and provides a variety of benefits. Four 
endangered birds, two of them endemic to Hawaii, use the refuge as 
vital habitat. Numerous migrants also use the refuges as migration and 
winter habitat. Endangered Monk Selas, Green Sea Turtles, and a variety 
of threatened insects and plants benefit as well. The refuge provides 
potential flood control if needed and supports cultural artifacts from 
early Polynesian inhabitation. Our Friends group has supported public 
education and refuge tours, in addition to assisting in habitat 
improvement efforts. In 2024, we received a $10,000 grant from the 
National Fish and Wildlife Foundation. These funds will be used to 
support the most critical needs of the refuge complex.
    In these highly populous and increasingly developed islands, these 
small refuges are critical for the animals and plants that live on the 
refuges and are also very important in providing a learning experience 
in a natural world.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    Our Friends group is dedicated to growing our membership and our 
ability to support and fund our refuges. The shortfall in manpower and 
funding has taken its toll. Our dedicate professionals work hard to 
keep the programs going smoothly, but to get best results, more 
personnel and more funds are clearly needed. Our invasive plant species 
grow rapidly, 365 days a year, reducing viable habitat for the 
endangered species, and a variety of management actions are needed 
daily to merely keep up, much less to incorporate the improvements we 
hope for to add viable habitat within the complex and to better 
accommodate an eager public.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitor 
facilities that rely on funding for the health and integrity of the 
Refuge System. Ultimately, the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 
billion in annual appropriations to effectively fulfill its 
conservation mission, provide opportunities for wildlife-dependent 
recreation, and connect communities to nature. The President's FY2025 
Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important step towards that 
goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Richard M. May, Jr, the President of the Friends of O`ahu National 
Wildlife Refuges at rmayhi02@hotmail.com, or via phone or text at (808) 
375-2439.

    [This statement was submitted by Friends of O`ahu National Wildlife 
Refuges.]
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    Prepared Statement of Friends of Patuxent Research Refuge, Inc.
    Supporting wildlife conservation, education, and research at the 
Patuxent Research Refuge, a National Wildlife Refuge of the US Fish and 
Wildlife Service, and the Eastern Ecological Science Center of the US 
Geological Survey. We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on 
the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. This testimony 
is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of Patuxent Research 
Refuge, Inc.
    We would like to offer comments on appropriations needs generally 
for the National Wildlife Refuge System, of which Patuxent Research 
Refuge is a National Wildlife Refuge, and specifically on behalf of the 
Eastern Ecological Science Center of the US Geological Survey.
    The Friends of Patuxent Research Refuge was formed in 1992 to 
support the then Patuxent Wildlife Research Center which was later 
divided by the Department of the Interior into the Patuxent Research 
Refuge (PRR) under the jurisdiction of the US Fish and Wildlife Service 
and the Eastern Ecological Science Center (EESC) under the jurisdiction 
of the US Geological Survey. The Friends of Patuxent since its founding 
has remained dedicated to equally supporting the research, education, 
and conservation missions of the refuge and the science center. The 
Friends of Patuxent raise funds, conduct educational programs, and 
support the refuge and science center through an extensive network of 
volunteers.
    For Fy2025, the Friends of Patuxent supports full funding for the 
personnel at the refuge and science center including being able to fill 
all current and future vacancies in the coming fiscal year for both the 
Patuxent Research Refuge and the Eastern Ecological Science Center. As 
we have seen in recent years, past budget increases have not kept pace 
with inflation, costs-of-living increases, and annual fixed costs 
expenses. As a result, the refuge and the science center have had to 
make up these costs by effectively reducing their budgets to make up 
the operational costs, the cost-of-living increases, and the fixed 
costs that continue to grow dramatically due to inflationary pressures. 
The net result has therefore been budget reductions and a lack of 
ability to fulfill their missions. These facilities must be adequately 
funded to achieve their approved level of service in FY 2025.
    Patuxent Research Refuge is unique among the National Wildlife 
Refuges of our Nation. It is the only refuge dedicated to wildlife 
research. Additionally, it is critically located within the fast-
developing Baltimore/Washington corridor. The 13,000 acres of PRR have 
been called ``the green lungs of Baltimore and Washington'' by the late 
Sen. Paul Sarbanes. Patuxent is not only home to vital wildlife 
research and conservation, but also serves as a crucial conservation 
and educational resource to a burgeoning urban population which it 
serves.
    In general, we request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in 
funding for National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance 
account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). 
Recent additions of refuges and new responsibilities have enhanced the 
Refuge System and benefited the communities around these refuges, but 
this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed and 
underfunded Refuge System. The insufficient funding and capacity 
impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, wildlife 
and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or 
eliminated due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or 
necessary infrastructure. We see these effects at the Patuxent Research 
Refuge, which notably has been identified as one of FWS's urban 
refuges.
    Specifically for the Eastern Ecological Science Center under the US 
Geological Survey (USGS), we would like to see Congress address several 
urgent research needs. These include providing an additional $6 million 
(at least $2 million to start) to the US Geological Survey Ecosystem 
Mission Area's Biological Threats and Invasive Species Program to 
develop a comprehensive, multi-pronged and science-based response plan 
in collaboration with State agencies and coordinate a research program 
to understand the ecological and socio-economic impacts and inform 
population monitoring, control and mitigation strategies in Chesapeake 
Bay. USGS is the right organization and has the inherent capability to 
take on this mission.
    Additionally, the recent proliferation of invasive catfish in our 
Nation's waterways, especially the blue catfish, is now endemic in many 
of the Chesapeake Bay's major rivers and has the potential to disrupt 
the Baywide restoration efforts of not only the Federal Government, but 
a broad partnership of State, local, and nonprofit partners, and limit 
the full potential restoration of this critical ecosystem. USGS can 
increase science leadership and harness the technical capabilities to 
work with stakeholders, academics, and resource managers to provide a 
more strategic approach for managing this challenge.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025 and the specific requests for 
additional research funding for the Eastern Ecological Science Center 
of USGS. Please feel free to contact Richard Dolesh, the chair of the 
board of directors of the Friends of Patuxent Research Refuge.

Contact information for Richard Dolesh:
    dolesh@gmail.com
    301-848-8154 (cell)
    19603 Aquasco Road
    Aquasco, MD, 20608

    [This statement was submitted by Richard Dolesh, Chairman of the 
Board of Directors of the Friends of Patuxent Research Refuge.]
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            Prepared Statement of the Friends of Prime Hook
    I am submitting this testimony as a lover of our Nation's wildlife 
heritage, especially as found in our National wildlife refuges. I am a 
member of the Friends of Prime Hook NWR and a director of the National 
Wildlife Refuge Association, but I do not represent them in this 
testimony.
    Over the last 20 years I have visited refuges in Alaska, Hawaii, 
and many of the lower 48 States, including my native Virginia and 
coastal Delaware where I have a house. Over these two decades I have 
seen staff cut and cut, reducing public access to, and enjoyment of, 
our wonderful lands. I beg you to reverse this terrible trend, 
beginning this year by funding the Refuge System's Operations and 
Maintenance account under the Fish and Wildlife Service at $602.3 
million.
    The following facts detailing the challenges to the Refuge System 
are courtesy of the National Wildlife Refuge Association.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering inflation and the increased needs of the Refuge 
System since FY2010, the Refuge System budget has substantially 
decreased.
    The number of FTEs -already a fraction of those of the other 
comparable Federal land agencies, has fallen by 27% since FY2011. This 
has made it difficult for the Refuge System to manage its vast network 
of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife 
and habitats. The insufficient funding and capacity impacts are felt 
System-wide, impacting conservation planning, wildlife and habitat 
management, visitor services, law enforcement, and maintenance. No 
refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero 
staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to the public and are 
completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage multiple wildlife 
refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles per day. Many 
volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated due to a lack 
of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure.
    Ultimately, the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual 
appropriations to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide 
opportunities for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect 
communities to nature. The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 
million is an important step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering this request.
    Please feel free to contact me at robmorgan322@gmail.com.

    [This statement was submitted by Rob Morgan, Director of the 
National Wildlife Refuge Association.]
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Prepared Statement of Friends of Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge
    I have been a member of the Friends of Rachel Carson National 
Wildlife Refuge for the past 35 years. The group was founded in 1987, 
we are a small group supporting the refuge and it's staff in various 
ways. The mission of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is to work with 
others to conserve, protect, and enhance fish, wildlife, plants and 
their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people. For 
FY25, I request that this subcommittee allocate $1.9 billion in funding 
for U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS). This includes $602.3 million 
to address the National Wildlife Refuge System's Operations and 
Maintenance Budget. For Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge , I 
request $1.5M in land acquisition funds for the purchase of critical 
wildlife habitat.
    The Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge is named in honor of one 
of the Nation's foremost and forward-thinking biologists. After 
arriving in Maine in 1946 as an aquatic biologist for the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service, Rachel Carson became entranced with Maine's coastal 
habitat, leading her to write the international best-seller The Sea 
Around Us. This landmark study, in combination with her other writings, 
The Edge of the
    Sea and Silent Spring, led Rachel Carson to become an advocate on 
behalf of this nation's vast coastal habitat and the wildlife that 
depends on it. Our Friends group continue to have community activities 
that involve the local schools and neighbors with the teachings of 
Rachel Carson and her impact on the awareness of the natural world. In 
the past few years , The Friends have had a photography contest with 
the winners displayed in yearly Friends Calendar. We have kept busy 
working with the new Visitor Service Specialist in various educational 
programs and public outreach. With the refuge's building of a new 
headquarters, we will have a new Visitor's Center and a Multi-purpose 
room that will aid in more continuous community engagement. The Friends 
will have a bookstore and office by early 2026. People can use the 
refuge as a springboard to connect to nature by experiencing wildlife 
observation, environmental education, interpretation, wildlife 
photography, hunting and fishing.
    Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge was established in 1966 in 
cooperation with the State of Maine to protect valuable salt marshes 
and estuaries for migratory birds. Located along 50 miles of coastline 
in York and Cumberland Counties, it consists of 11 divisions in 12 
municipalities protecting approximately 5,600 acres within a 14,800 
acre acquisition zone. Consisting of meandering tidal creeks, coastal 
upland, sandy dunes, salt ponds, marsh, and productive wetlands, the 
Rachel Carson NWR provides critical nesting and feeding habitat for the 
threatened piping plover and a variety of migratory waterfowl, and 
serves as a nursery for many shellfish and finfish. The proximity of 
the Refuge to the coast and its location between the eastern deciduous 
forest and the boreal forest creates a biodiverse composition of plants 
and animals not found elsewhere in Maine. Major habitat types present 
on the Refuge include forested upland, barrier beach/dune, coastal 
meadows, tidal salt marsh, and the distinctive rocky coast. The Refuge 
provides public recreational opportunities, including wildlife 
observation, fishing, hunting, photography, and kayaking for the 
growing, and increasingly diverse and more urban, population of 
southern Maine and its summer visitors.
    With 568 units, the National Wildlife Refuge System is a model for 
conservation around the world. More than 160 coastal refuges buffer 
communities from the increasing frequency and intensity of storms, and 
even more provide habitat for millions of migrating birds each year. 
All of the refuges are in dire need of staffing and upkeep. An 
investment in the Nation's Refuge System is an excellent investment in 
the American economy, generating $3.2 billion and creating about 41,000 
jobs in local economies. Without increased funding for refuges, 
wildlife conservation and public recreation opportunities will be 
jeopardized. Overall, the National Wildlife Refuge System requires at 
least $602.3M in Operations and Maintenance Funding to be considered 
``full funding'', which all refuges staffed, with adequate maintenance, 
biological, hunting, fishing, environmental education, and 
interpretation programs. The failure to offset the impacts of inflation 
has led to unsustainably low staffing levels and lost capacity. Over 
800 permanent positions have been lost since FY2011-an enormous 25% 
loss in capacity. Much of the Refuge System is virtually unprotected 
due to the lack of law enforcement officers, with some officers 
covering entire States and refuge units hours away from one another. 
Several much-needed positions like these are eliminated every year as 
congressional appropriations lag behind inflation and actual funding 
needs. This also impacts the Friends Refuge volunteer groups like ours, 
as many volunteer programs-critical for the operation and maintenance 
of refuges-are being cut back or eliminated entirely due to a lack of 
supervision from full-time professional staff. We urge the subcommittee 
to do everything possible to bridge this inflation gap and provide the 
necessary additional funding of $602.3M to adequately fund the Refuge 
System.
    Here in Maine, Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge is seeking is 
have $1.5M secured in LWCF monies for land acquisition for 146 acres of 
vital marshland and upland habitat. FWS is in negotiations with 
landowners to acquire tracts that contain riparian and tidal habitats. 
These acquisitions will support salt marsh migration which is crucial 
to the long-term viability of this salt marsh focused Refuge. One 
parcel encompasses the west bank of the Little River in Kennebunkport, 
one of the least developed tidal river habitats in southern Maine. The 
parcel is adjacent to Timber Point and existing Refuge lands in the 
Little River Division in Biddeford and Kennebunkport. In 2009, your 
subcommittee was very supportive in securing funds to acquire Timber 
Point and it's surrounding lands, the refuge is now requesting to allow 
further expansion within the division. This acquisition would connect 
these parcels and improve public access for kayaking, fishing, and 
hunting on the river. The parcels are in very desirable areas of 
development in southern Maine and the funds are needed to conserve 
several properties. With towns in the area growing rapidly--at rates 
ranging between 11 percent and 32 percent over the next 10 years--
development pressures continue to spiral upwards and additional coastal 
properties are under threat. RCNWR needs the $1.5M.This will provide 
great dividends for refuge trust resources such as shorebirds and 
waterfowl and life and safety for local communities. As well as 
delivery of ecosystem services such as clean water, air, economically 
important marine resources and coastal protection in the face of sea 
level rise and increased storm incidences fueled by global climate 
change.
    I again extend our appreciation to the subcommittee for its ongoing 
commitment to our National Wildlife Refuge System and respectfully 
request the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies Appropriations 
subcommittee allocate $1.9B for the USFWS , $602.3M for the Refuge 
System's O & M Budget and $1.6M for Rachel Carson National Wildlife 
Refuge from the LWCF.
    Thank you again, Chair Merkley and Ranking Member Murkowski for the 
opportunity to present this testimony in support of protecting wildlife 
and it's habitat. Enjoy your next walk out on a National Wildlife 
Refuge.

    [This statement was submitted by Bill Durkin, President, Friends of 
Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge.]
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 Prepared Statement of Friends of the Savannah Coastal Wildlife Refuges
    All public lands are our Nations greatest treasure, one of our 
proudest achievements, and an ideal that separates us from other 
countries. They are truly American, however they are not treated the 
same. The National Wildlife Refuge System encompasses more acres than 
all other public lands combined, a staggering 62%, yet is appallingly 
underfunded to the pitiful amount of $0.62 per acre; roughly 4% of 
total appropriations amongst all public lands. While I struggle to 
comprehend the reasons for this disparity, I ask that the budget for 
the National Wildlife Refuge System be brought in-line with an 
appropriate respect to the other public land agencies.
    I choose to refrain from any lengthy discussion about staffing 
shortages or deferred maintenance projects, to which much could be 
said, because the truth is that no one will judge us, or remember, how 
many jobs we created or what backlog we cleared. Instead, we will all 
be judged on what we chose to invest in and what we saved for the 
future. If I could raise the stakes a bit higher, these underfunded 
refuges are some of our last bastions of hope against climate change 
here in America. They are home to some of our greatest carbon sinks, 
our greatest natural filters of drinking water, our greatest sponges 
against rising sea levels, yet we are dangerously close to losing them 
if we don't start investing in their protection, and subsequently our 
own.
    But it's not solely the ecosystem services the refuges bestow, a 27 
billion+ annual benefit to our Nation\1\, that's in jeopardy but our 
Nation's character- our American spirit. Near my home in Savannah, 
Georgia each refuge contains tidal salt marsh. No other place in the 
world has the same unique charm that the marsh provides here. It's the 
embodiment of legend, the very subject of song and verse, the reason 
that millions visit and the privileged few stay. Just one opportunity 
to witness the hypnotic sway of the grasses, the gentle texture of the 
late afternoon colors that awash the horizon in shades of gold, the 
rich umber browns of the plough mud that clings to your feet and binds 
to your soul- and your heart will ache at the thought of ever losing 
it.
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    \1\ Molly W. Ingraham, Shonda Gilliland Foster, The value of 
ecosystem services provided by the U.S. National Wildlife Refuge System 
in the contiguous U.S., Ecological Economics, Volume 67, Issue 4, 2008, 
Pages 608-618, ISSN0921-8009, https://doi.org/10.1016/
j.ecolecon.2008.01.012. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/
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    What will we lose as a country if we allow these refuges to slip 
away? What will it say about us as a society, when we cannot prioritize 
that which we cannot create ourselves?
    If not to save it for us, those who have already been blessed with 
these environs, then to save it for future generations, who may miss 
out through no fault of their own. What America will we choose to leave 
them? One without wonder, without wild places, without hope?
    I support these refuges because I choose to save the promise of a 
better tomorrow. One where alligators bellow under moss draped oaks, 
where snowy egrets dance in shallow pools, and where hardwood giants 
shield entire islands from view.
    I support these refuges because they hold the secrets needed to 
protect us from the worst effects of climate change.
    And I support these refuges because my children still run with open 
arms to the ocean, because their eyes still twinkle at the sight of 
fireflies, and because I want their children, one day, the chance to 
see the same magic.
    So now I ask you, for your support of these, our last wild places.

    [This statement was submitted by Matthew Emmer, President, Friends 
of the Savannah Coastal Wildlife Refuges, Inc.]
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    Prepared Statement of Friends of Seney National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of Seney 
National Wildlife Refuge which was formed in 1987 to support the Seney 
National Wildlife Refuge in Germfask, Michigan located in Michigan's 
Upper Peninsula. We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on 
the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request 
Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife 
Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account under the United 
States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    We are a volunteer-powered nonprofit membership organization and a 
proud partner of the Seney National Wildlife Refuge. Our mission is to 
support the Seney National Wildlife Refuge through community building, 
awareness and education, and fundraising. We've been working hard to 
build community engagement, raise private funding and communicate the 
importance of wild spaces like the refuge. We've been more successful 
than ever this past year, joining together with people who love the 
wildness of the refuge and who want to preserve and nurture it into the 
future. No matter how hard we work, as volunteers we can never make up 
the gap of lost funding caused by many years of inadequate Federal 
appropriations.
    The refuge is critical to the economy of our region in addition to 
its importance in maintaining essential biodiversity. Many visitors 
come to the UP for outdoor recreation and Seney is almost always a 
stop. The refuge protects wildlife and habitats and provides a level of 
resilience for our communities in responding to climate hazards. 
Without tourism, and people's love of our wilderness, we would lose 
many jobs and families would be forced to move elsewhere to make a 
living.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units, 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
William MacLachlan, the President of the Friends of Seney at 
friends@friendsofseney.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Polly Sheppard, Member, Board of 
Directors, Friends of Seney National Wildlife Refuge.]
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Prepared Statement of the Friends of Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Sherburne NWR, which was formed in July 1993 to support the Sherburne 
National Wildlife Refuge, Zimmerman, MN. We appreciate the opportunity 
to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations 
bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for 
National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    The Friends of Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge is a grassroots 
nonprofit organization with more than 600 members. We have a single 
purpose: to nurture an appreciation for, and the conservation of, the 
Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge. We are a 501(c)(3) Minnesota 
corporation founded in 1993 with a formal partnership agreement with 
the Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge, a unit of the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service. We are an all-volunteer organization with no paid 
staff, and we serve visitors from Central Minnesota and beyond, 
including the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul, outstate 
Minnesota, neighboring States, and beyond to the entire United States 
and even foreign countries. Our areas of strategic focus include 
Education, Advocacy, Volunteerism, Sustainability, and Diversity/
Equity/Inclusion.
    The refuge, within 50 miles of downtown Minneapolis, is a unique 
place with 30,700 acres of rare oak savanna as well as prairie, 
wetlands, and some woodlands. Well over 100,000 visitors come in all 
seasons of the year to explore the Blue Hill, Mahnomen, and Oak Savanna 
Learning Center hiking trails, tour the Wildlife Drive, and enjoy 
birding-from spring migrants, to summer nesting favorites like 
trumpeter swans and sandhill cranes, to the tens of thousands of 
sandhill cranes that stage at the refuge each fall before heading to 
the Gulf Coast and other southern locations for the winter. Hunting-
including waterfowl, deer, and turkey-is popular as well, and the 
refuge's nature education program serves thousands of students of all 
ages throughout the year. In addition, the refuge's events draw 
visitors from miles around. The highlight of the event calendar is the 
fall Wildlife Festival, which has attracted as many as 2,000 visitors 
in one day. Visitors especially flocked to the refuge for an escape in 
nature during the 2020 pandemic, when trailhead parking lots overflowed 
and lines of vehicles crowded the Wildlife Drive.
    We have seen that Sherburne NWR offers notable benefits beyond 
conservation. Refuge visitors and the refuge itself significantly 
enhance the quality of life as well as the economy of the surrounding 
area. Spaces like ours bring people together-regardless of age, 
ability, background, or political preference. It seems to us that 
funding for the Refuge System should be a winning proposition for 
Congress members, regardless of political party.
    The Friends of Sherburne do much to support the refuge through 
outreach in surrounding communities and volunteering to assist with 
education and conservation programs. We also raise funds to support the 
refuge's nature education program, free public events, informational 
brochures and signage for visitors, and more. Local support is 
important to both us and the refuge. We have recently raised more than 
$400,000 from the community to construct an amphitheater adjacent to 
the Oak Savanna Learning Center on the refuge. We have also raised 
funds to contract with a naturalist to assist the refuge's Visitor 
Services staff member.
    During my 25-year ``career'' as a Friends member and volunteer for 
the refuge and US Fish and Wildlife Service, I have watched refuge 
visitor and program numbers increase while the Service staff has 
shrunk. In fact, I would estimate that the current staff is only about 
half of what it was in 2010. Unfortunately, as staff numbers have 
decreased, funding has as well. In short, fewer people are being asked 
to do the same amount of work-and even more-but with much less 
financial support. When a staff member retires, transfers to another 
site, or otherwise leaves our refuge, that person is very rarely 
replaced. My greatest fear is that if we lose our Visitor Services 
Specialist-who works for the benefit of volunteers as well as visitors-
we may no longer be supported to do the very valuable work that we 
perform as volunteers. By the way, volunteers perform as much as 20% of 
the work done on National Wildlife Refuges each year!
    This sad situation is not unique to Sherburne Refuge! I am 
acquainted with many Friends and Service staff from across the United 
States, and I don't know any of them who currently have a full staff at 
their Service site. To me this is an unforgivable situation and shows 
no respect for the American people, for whom Service staff are 
``working with others to conserve, protect, and enhance fish, wildlife, 
and plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the 
American people.''
    So how has this happened? Let's take a look back. Since 2010 the 
Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 million submerged 
marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and fishing, and seen 
visitation grow to more than 68 million annual visitors-an increase of 
47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have enhanced the Refuge 
System and benefited the communities around these refuges, this growth 
has also put more pressure on the already stressed and underfunded 
Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased. I recently read that ``the five 
branches of the United States armed forces maintain nearly 150 military 
bands ... with annual spending on music ensembles in excess of $300 
million.'' We have nothing against the military or its bands but 
believe that we can-and should-do better than $527 million to support 
the Refuge System's 95 million land acres and 755 million water acres.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have no staff at all on site. Multiple refuges have been closed 
to the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitors that 
rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, the 
Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations to 
effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for 
wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. The 
President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. For more information, please 
feel free to contact Carol J Mertesdorf, President of the Friends of 
Sherburne NWR, at cjmertesdorf@yahoo.com

    [This statement was submitted by Susan L Hix, Member, Friends of 
Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge, Inc.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Friends of St. Marks Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of St. 
Marks Wildlife Refuge, which was formed in 1987 to support the St. 
Marks National Wildlife Refuge in St. Marks, Florida. We appreciate the 
opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill. We request the Senate to allocate $602.3 million 
in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and 
Maintenance account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS).
    The Friends of St. Marks Wildlife Refuge group was founded in 1987 
to support the educational and biological objectives of the St. Marks 
National Wildlife Refuge in Florida. It was awarded the National 
Friends Group of the Year in 2021 and the groups' accomplishments are 
numerous. Signature programs developed and implemented by the Friends 
include: support of over 73 youth conservation interns over 10 years to 
support endangered species management on the refuge; fundraising over 
$1 million for the extensive restoration of the St. Marks Lighthouse, a 
National Historic Site; support of a staffed ``lighthouse keeper'' to 
run the lighthouse volunteer program for thousands of visitors; 
advocacy and support of the full-time staff to run the Nationally 
recognized Environmental Education program; coordination of the 
donation of the 160-acre Byrd Hammock archeological site to the Refuge; 
and providing direct funding and facilitated donations by environmental 
partners to acquire Smith's Island, an important bird rookery.
    St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge in St. Marks, Florida was 
established in 1931. Stretching along 45 miles of fragile Gulf Coast in 
northern Florida, the refuge is of vital importance to the local 
community, maintaining healthy ecosystems that protect residents and 
their property and attracts over 320,000 visitors annually. Also, it is 
an asset to people and wildlife as the refuge:

  --is part of the North American Coastal Plain ``biodiversity 
        hotspot,'' one of 36 biologically rich and deeply threatened 
        regions across the globe targeted by Conservation International 
        for plant and wildlife conservation and critical to human 
        survival.

  --protects 32,000 acres of pristine Apalachee Bay as an Executive 
        Closure Boundary to benefit migratory birds and marine 
        resources.

  --is embedded within a matrix of over 1.46 million acres of nearly 
        contiguous public lands.

  --contains 17, 746 acres of Wilderness salt marshes, designated by 
        Congress in 1975.

  --is the only refuge in Florida to host a segment of the Florida 
        National Scenic Trail.

  --is designated as a Globally Important Bird Area in the United 
        States and considered in the top 50 sites nationally for 
        birding.

  --is recognized as the National Land Management Research 
        Demonstration Area for the endangered Longleaf Pine ecosystem.

  --offers one of the few Environmental Education programs with a full-
        time staff position in the National Wildlife Refuge System, 
        reaching thousands of pre-school students- adults annually.

  --staff actively recruits youth conservation interns to support 
        monitoring and maintenance of the endangered red-cockaded 
        woodpecker and frosted flatwoods salamander populations.

    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units, 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    Specific challenges facing the St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge 
include reduced law enforcement presence and biological inventory and 
management capacity due to reduced staffing and expansion of the 
staff's geographic areas of responsibility; aging and unsafe 
infrastructure; inadequate space for professional staff, interns, 
volunteers and Friends in a 45-year-old wooden Visitor Center/Office 
and lack of funding to over come these challenges. This coastal 
wildlife refuge will continue to face resiliency issues for wildlife 
and visitors with climate change ongoing and increased pressure from 
development and invasive species encroachment.
    We urge the Senate to prioritize the Refuge System and address 
these overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is 
equipped to effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and 
visitor ship that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge 
System. Ultimately, the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in 
annual appropriations to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, 
provide opportunities for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect 
communities to nature. The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 
million is an important step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Myrtle Bailey, Vice President, of the Friends of St. Marks Wildlife 
Refuge at (850)524-5756 or myrbailey@aol.com for more information.

    [This statement was submitted by Myrtle Bailey, Vice President, 
Friends of St. Marks Wildlife Refuge.]
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   Prepared Statement of Friends of the Tampa Bay National Wildlife 
                                Refuges
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of the 
Tampa Bay National Wildlife Refuges which was formed in 2008 as a 501c 
3 to support the Tampa Bay Refuges, which include Egmont Key, Passage 
Key, and Pinellas National Wildlife Refuges. We appreciate the 
opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill. We request that Congress allocate $602.3 million 
in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and 
Maintenance account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS) for the 2025 fiscal year.
    The Tampa Bay National Wildlife Refuge Islands are a part of the 
Crystal River National Wildlife Refuge Complex located in west central 
Florida. The offices are located roughly 90 miles north of Tampa Bay. 
Our Tampa Bay Friends group has over 300 members who spend many hours 
volunteering and raising funds. Our volunteer hours this past year were 
the equivalent of 1.5 full time employees. Our members are passionate 
about the environment, the wildlife, and the history of Egmont, 
Pinellas, and Passage Keys.
    The Tampa Bay National Wildlife Refuge islands were set aside for 
nesting and resting birds as well as preserving the ruins of Ft. Dade 
on Egmont Key NWR. The refuge complex has lost almost all of its staff 
due to budget cuts and staff retirements. They are not even close to 
having enough personnel to carry out their mission and mandates. The 
Tampa Bay NWR's have one visitor services manager for Tampa Bay but he 
frequently has to fill in at the Refuge Headquarters in Crystal River. 
There is almost always a budget shortfall towards the end of the fiscal 
year causing staff to discontinue many of the activities they should be 
doing to fulfill the mandates for each refuge. The Complex has a 
Project Leader, Visitor Services Manager, Visitor Service Specialist, 
and one maintenance employee to cover the five refuges which are 
located a hundred miles apart. The Complex doesn't even have a 
Biologist! The complex used to have 12 staff members and now they have 
4. It is a next to impossible task for the few staff left. Our Friends 
group is understandably concerned that there is not enough staff to 
protect these incredible places and wildlife on our refuges.
    The Tampa Bay Refuges large populations of wonderful birds, gopher 
tortoises, box turtles, and Loggerhead sea turtles are important to the 
community as well as our Friends members. The Friends do monthly bird 
counts for Pinellas Refuge Islands, but are not equipped to count 
Egmont or Passage Keys, that requires a biologist. The Friends also 
fill the gap of providing environmental education and field trips for 
adults and kids, as well as public outreach at festivals and 
presentations. Friends spend countless hours repairing boats to get to 
the islands, refurbishing informational kiosks, picking up trash, 
pulling invasive plants, and posting and reposting signs to keep the 
birds safe. We fund items for the refuges as needed if we have the 
funds and apply for community grants for larger projects to help 
protect the islands from erosion.
    Tampa Bay loves the refuges. Egmont Key NWR has hundreds of 
thousands of visitors each year who enjoy the beaches, see the Ft. Dade 
ruins, and watch the birds in the areas that are open to the public. 
Visitors are always thrilled to see the healthy gopher tortoises and 
some of the more than 150,000 birds during nesting season. Many of 
these folks are from all over the U.S. and abroad. Boating across the 
bay, exploring the island, and beachcombing gives people a feeling of 
relaxation and a way to unwind. Everyone needs that. It is important to 
protect Egmont and equally important for Passage Key and Pinellas 
Refuges which do not have visitors but supply the area with new 
generations of beautiful birds.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units, 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitation that 
rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, the 
Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations to 
effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for 
wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. The 
President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me, Barbara Howard, President of the Friends of the Tampa Bay National 
Wildlife Refuges at 727-512-4914 or Friends@TampaBayRefuges.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Barbara Howard, President, Friends 
of the Tampa Bay National Wildlife Refuges.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Friends of Tualatin River National Wildlife 
                             Refuge Complex
    I am submitting this testimony on behalf of Friends of Tualatin 
River National Wildlife Refuge Complex. We appreciate the opportunity 
to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations 
bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in funding for 
National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    I appreciate the opportunity to provide written testimony on behalf 
of the Friends of Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge Complex 
(Friends), near Portland, Oregon. Friends is a 501 (C) (3) nonprofit 
organization whose mission is to promote the conservation and welfare 
of the Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge for all dependent 
species and to enrich the lives of citizens through education and 
experience. Our organization has approximately 350 members. I am 
President of the Board of this organization. The Refuge Complex also 
includes Wapato Lake National Wildlife Refuge, in Gaston, OR. Our 
volunteer organization helps to support these two refuges and the 
refuge system. We provide thousands of volunteer hours each year to 
assist our understaffed and underfunded refuges and refuge system.
    In 2020, when the pandemic quickly shutdown most federal, State, 
and local parks, our beloved Oregon Coast beaches, and other public 
lands in the Portland area, there was one place where visitors could go 
and safely bask in nature. That place was Tualatin River National 
Wildlife Refuge. Although the Visitor Center and restrooms and even 
part of the parking lot were closed for a time, we flocked there by the 
thousands to soak up our much-needed ration of nature. The refuge 
became just that for humans as well as wildlife and we value it more 
today than ever.
    Located just 15 miles from the heart of Portland, OR, Tualatin 
River National Wildlife Refuge, founded in 1992 and opened to the 
public in 2006, is cradled in Portland's southwest suburbs and is 
easily accessible to this urban population including being accessible 
by public transportation with a bus stop at its main gate and a wheel-
chair friendly trail. The refuge has existed as a designated Urban 
Refuge since it was created. I am blessed to live less than a mile from 
the main gate of the refuge. As a 4th generation Idahoan, I grew up 
outdoors in nature and am passionate to protect these treasured places 
for all to enjoy.
    As more and more people ``discovered'' the Refuge as a respite in a 
very stressful time, there has been a heightened public awareness of 
its value as a resource to our community. But, with increased awareness 
and usage comes increased need for upkeep and protection. Being in an 
urban area results in a higher level of required management to 
safeguard the wildlife and habitat.
    Our Fish and Wildlife Staff has done a stellar job of preserving 
the refuge, but they are working at a great handicap. In 2012, the 
refuge consisted of 1,384 acres under the management of a full-time 
staff of 6. In 2013, the 944-acre Wapato Lake National Wildlife Refuge 
was created and complexed with Tualatin River NWR with no additional 
staff or funding. Since then, additional acres have been added to 
Tualatin River NWR, bringing it to over 1,800 acres. Managed acres have 
increased by 50% but there is still only a staff of 6. Complexing these 
two refuges also results in staff having to travel substantial 
distances several times a week to juggle duties on multiple refuges.
    Without sufficient staff, the progress toward public access at 
Wapato Lake and the date for opening to the public was delayed until 
last year. Restoration, conservation, and access to this refuge is 
extremely significant to the local communities and to the Confederated 
Tribes of Grand Ronde who are the original caretakers of this land. It 
also provides habitat for a variety of wildlife (https://youtu.be/-
GcQ_ORL-9M ) including many migratory waterfowl that stop-over in the 
winter. But the refuge is amazing year-round.
    Historically, the Wapato lakebed filled and receded with the rise 
and fall of the Tualatin River. A pump system and earthen levees, 
designed to facilitate farming, were installed in the 1930s. Eighty 
years later, the economic and public health risks of this aging 
infrastructure had become evident. The failing dikes on the Lake must 
be repaired to protect surrounding private and public lands, to ensure 
the safety of drinking water, and to enable US Fish and Wildlife 
Service Staff to adequately control water levels for the benefit of 
wildlife. The $9M that had been allocated toward the anticipated total 
$21M cost of the project was redirected without any thought to how this 
would impact Wapato Lake. The citizens of Gaston are wondering what 
will happen when the dikes fail and water from the lake contaminates 
the drinking water for their city.
    Challenges at Wapato Lake involved not only the aging 
infrastructure, but also the developing a significant level of 
collaboration, funding and expertise that would be needed to transform 
this expansive and critical site into a haven for wildlife and an asset 
to the surrounding communities.
    The past 3 years have been a time of exciting change at Tualatin 
River National Wildlife Refuge as well. Chicken Creek that flows across 
the main unit of the refuge has been reoriented to a sinuous flow, 
replacing the straight channel that was created when the land was 
converted for agricultural use over a century ago. The project created 
a 280-acre connected, naturally functioning wetland system on the 
Refuge's Atfalat'i Unit. A reconfigured pedestrian trail now allows 
visitors to access the new natural wetland and creek area.
    Both projects have been accomplished with the help of numerous 
community partners making the refuge more meaningful to even more 
members of our communities.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges, including Wapato Lake NWR, have zero staff on site. Multiple 
refuges have been closed to the public and are completely unmanaged. 
Many employees must manage multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes 
traveling hundreds of miles per day. Many volunteer programs have also 
been cut back or eliminated due to a lack of supervision from 
professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure.
    ``National Wildlife Refuges are places where the music of life has 
been rehearsed to perfection, where nature's colors are most vibrant, 
where time is measured in seasons, and where the dance of the crane 
takes center stage. They are gifts to ourselves and to generations 
unborn- simple gifts unwrapped each time a birder lifts binoculars, a 
child overturns a rock, a hunter sets the decoys, or an angler casts 
the water.'' This is a quote taken from Fulfilling the Promise in the 
forward by then U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS)Director Jamie 
Clark
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me, the President of the Friends of Tualatin River National Wildlife 
Refuge Complex at oregonchart@comcast.net or 503 758-5534.

    [This statement was submitted by Cheryl Hart, Board President, 
Friends of Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge Complex.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Tualatin River and Wapato National Wildlife 
                                Refuges
    I am submitting this testimony as a volunteer at the Tualatin River 
and Wapato National Wildlife Refuges in Portland, Oregon. We appreciate 
the opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 
Interior Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 
million in funding for the National Wildlife Refuge System Operations 
and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and Wildlife 
Service (USFWS).
    Founded in 1993, the Friends of Tualatin River National Wildlife 
Refuge (the Friends) is a community-based nonprofit organization. 
Unlike most refuges, Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge was 
established due to the vision and hard work of a group of local 
citizens who saw the value of having a National Wildlife Refuge in the 
midst of a rapidly growing urban area. These founders worked with local 
political leaders to gain approval for the establishment of the Refuge.
    The Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuges as urban sanctuaries, 
aim not only for ecological restoration but also to engage 
underrepresented communities in conservation efforts. However, progress 
in community involvement has been severely hindered by a shortage of 
USFWS staff and budgetary limitations. As volunteers, we are restricted 
from initiating projects without staff oversight, which has postponed 
projects due to staffing shortages. I have been a passionate supporter 
of community science projects that engage high school students in 
conservation. Still, the limited USFWS staff resources have prevented 
the launch of new initiatives in this area.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units, 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
16% since FY2010. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025.

    [This statement was submitted by Willem Stoeller, Vice-President, 
Friends of the Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge Complex.]
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          Prepared Statement of Geological Society of America
                                summary
    The Geological Society of America (GSA) recommends that Congress 
provide $1.85 billion in annual appropriations for the U.S. Geological 
Survey (USGS) in Fiscal Year 2025. As one of our Nation's key science 
agencies, the USGS plays a vital role in locating, characterizing and 
documenting mineral and energy resources that underpin economic 
security and growth; researching and monitoring potential natural 
hazards that threaten U.S. and international security; keeping 
communities informed about the impacts of a changing climate; and 
determining and assessing water quality and availability. Approximately 
two thirds of the USGS budget is allocated for research and 
development. In addition to supporting the science activities and 
decisions of the Department of the Interior, USGS research, data, and 
products are used by communities across the Nation to make informed 
decisions in land-use planning, emergency response, natural resource 
management, engineering, and education. To fully implement the agency's 
mission and fulfill the USGS 21st-Century Science Strategy will require 
$1.85 billion in annual appropriations.

The Geological Society of America (GSA) is a scientific society with 
19,000 members from academia, government, and industry. Through its 
meetings, publications, and programs, GSA enhances the professional 
growth of its members and promotes the geosciences in the service of 
humankind. GSA encourages cooperative research among earth, life, 
planetary, and social scientists, fosters public dialogue on geoscience 
issues, and supports all levels of earth science education.

    The Geological Society of America (GSA) thanks the Committee for 
recognizing the importance of the work of the U.S. Geological Survey 
(USGS) to protect lives, property, and national security, and to 
stimulate economic growth. GSA urges Congress to provide USGS $1.85 
billion in Fiscal Year 2025. This increase will allow the USGS to 
implement new initiatives, maintain the base funding for critical 
research and monitoring, fill vacant positions, and address deferred 
maintenance on existing facilities.
u.s. geological survey contributions to national security, health, and 
                                welfare
    The USGS is one of the Nation's premier science agencies, with the 
unique capacity to engage interdisciplinary teams of experts to gather 
data, conduct research, and develop integrated decision-support tools. 
USGS research is used by communities across the Nation to make informed 
decisions regarding land-use planning, emergency response, natural 
resource management, engineering, and education. USGS provides 
practical, pragmatic science that informs many of society's greatest 
challenges related to national and economic security, health, and 
welfare. Several are highlighted below.
                            natural hazards
    Natural hazards are a major cause of fatalities and economic 
losses. In 2023 alone, NOAA found that Federal costs due to natural 
disasters in the U.S. exceeded $90 billion. An improved scientific 
understanding of geologic and atmospheric hazards will reduce future 
losses by informing effective planning, mitigation, and resilience. 
USGS's products are innovative, reliable, timely, and actionable, 
providing critical information on potential and developing hazards like 
floods, droughts, earthquakes, volcanos, landslides, and space weather 
events. GSA urges Congress to continue supporting efforts for USGS to 
both maintain its fundamental research capabilities, and modernize and 
upgrade its natural hazards monitoring and warning systems, such as the 
ShakeAlert Earthquake Early Warning System which can improve our 
ability to predict and mitigate the impacts of these events, ultimately 
saving lives and reducing economic losses.
    Decision makers in many sectors rely upon USGS data to respond to 
natural hazards. For example, USGS volcano monitoring provides data to 
enable decisions to ensure aviation safety. Similarly, the USGS plays a 
key role in the National Tsunami Hazard Mitigation Program by tracking 
tsunami sources using seismic data, and USGS research on storm surge is 
used by the National Hurricane Center.
    USGS is a key partner in obtaining data necessary to predict severe 
space weather events, which affect the electric power grid, satellite 
communications, and navigation systems. The Promoting Research and 
Observations of Space Weather to Improve the Forecasting of Tomorrow 
Act (PROSWIFT Act) provides a path forward for USGS research to 
understand and mitigate space weather risks. In addition, the Space 
Weather Advisory Group established by the PROSWIFT Act conducts 
comprehensive surveys to identify the research, observations, 
forecasting, and modeling advances required to improve response to 
space weather products.
    GSA recommends adequate funding to implement recently-enacted 
hazards-related legislation. For example, the National Landslide 
Preparedness Act expanded the USGS Landslide Hazards Program, and 
authorized the 3D Elevation Program (3DEP) which leverages partnerships 
with the private sector, State and local governments, and other 
agencies to update and coordinate the collection of high-resolution 
elevation data across the country. Directives to USGS include 
identifying, mapping, and understanding landslide hazards, responding 
to landslide events, and developing landslide guidelines for 
geoscientists, emergency management personnel, and land-use decision-
makers in order to reduce landslide losses and protect communities at 
risk.
                          energy and minerals
    As articulated in the Energy Policy Act of 2020, there is a vital 
need to understand the global and domestic abundance and distribution 
of critical mineral resources, as well as the geologic processes that 
form them. Achieving this goal will require continually expanding 
collection and analysis of geological, geochemical, and geophysical 
data. Specifically, GSA supports completing the new Energy and Minerals 
Research Facility on the Colorado School of Mines campus, a USGS 
facility that will be critical to establishing the workforce needed to 
secure our energy future by expanding STEM talent, and increasing 
diversity through student engagement and university partnerships.
    GSA supports energy and minerals science, research, data collection 
and analysis that will allow for more economic and environmental 
management and utilization. GSA appreciates congressional support for 
the EarthMRI program, which will both provide new resources and 
leverage current data to accelerate geological and geophysical mapping, 
identify critical mineral sites for further scientific study to aid 
defense, security, and economic uses. The mapping has a central focus 
on minerals still in the ground and minerals that may be reprocessed 
from legacy mine waste, and will also provide important data for 
abandoned mine remediation and for understanding other natural 
resources.
                            water resources
    Improved understanding of the quantity, quality, distribution, and 
use of water resources through monitoring, assessment, research, and 
delivery of actionable information by the USGS and associated partners 
is necessary to ensure adequate and safe water resources for the health 
and welfare of society. For example, the USGS national network of 
stream gages provides key data for the weekly U.S. Drought Monitor Maps 
and classifications, but its funding has been flatlined for many years. 
A reinvestment in this program will allow the Survey to maintain 
significant long-term data collection necessary for assessing impacts 
to water resources brought on by stressors such as climate change. 
Improved representation of geological, biological, and ecological 
systems in USGS models-including underlying physical and chemical 
processes and their interactions-is needed to fully assess water 
availability across the U.S., and develop the tools needed to utilize 
them responsibly.
                             climate change
    USGS research on climate impacts is used by local policymakers and 
resource managers to make sound decisions based on the best possible 
science. In addition to fundamental, long-term climate change research, 
the USGS provides scientific information necessary to anticipate, 
monitor, and adapt to the effects of climate change at regional and 
local levels, allowing communities to make smart, cost-effective 
decisions. Much of this work operates through the network of nine 
regional Climate Adaptation Centers (CASC). For example, the Alaska 
CASC has assessed future landslide risks along road corridors in Denali 
and other Alaska parks, which will assist planning for new and existing 
infrastructure to endure under a changing climate. The Southeast CASC 
is using artificial intelligence to predict flood damage changes in 
response to rising sea levels across the country, and Northwest CASC 
researchers studied the impacts of wildfire severity and climate change 
on tree species that rely on fire to release their seeds. Additionally, 
the Federal Climate Data Portal will provide actionable climate tools 
and products that will help public and private decision-makers address 
climate risks.
         core science systems, facilities, and science support
    Activities from hazard monitoring to mineral forecasts are 
supported by Core Science Systems, Facilities, and Science Support. 
These programs and services, such as geologic mapping, data 
preservation, and satellite observation, provide critical information, 
data, and infrastructure that underpin the research of the USGS. 
Investment in advanced scientific computing will allow the agency 
cutting-edge analytics and models needed to study wildfires and 
droughts. Stagnant funding has created backlogs in the hiring of new 
scientists. Increased investment is needed to fill these critical roles 
and allow for the recruitment and training of a strong and diverse STEM 
workforce pipeline, paving the way for increased diversity, equity, 
inclusion, and accessibility within the field of Earth sciences.
    GSA appreciates the committee's recent investments in USGS 
facilities, including the support of the Energy and Mineral Research 
Facility included in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and encourages 
continued investment to assure the completion of these important, new 
facilities and to address deferred maintenance issues on older 
facilities. GSA also recommends long-term funding and support for the 
USGS Library, which is used by both Federal scientists and external 
researchers. The Library houses more than 1.5 million volumes and more 
than three million maps, photographs and field records, with much of 
the information unique to the USGS or available from very sources 
worldwide.
    The Landsat satellites have amassed the largest archive of remotely 
sensed land data in the world, a tremendously important resource for 
land use planning, and for assessment of water, energy, mineral and 
other natural resources, the impacts of natural disasters, and global 
agriculture production. GSA encourages continued support for existing 
programs, as well as interagency efforts for Landsat Next with improved 
spatial resolution and the ability to provide updated imagery with 
greater frequency.
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony about the U.S. 
Geological Survey. For additional information or to learn more about 
the Geological Society of America--including GSA Position Statements on 
climate change, water resources, mineral and energy resources, natural 
hazards, and public investment in Earth science research--please visit 
www.geosociety.org or contact GSA's Science Policy office at 
sciencepolicy@geosociety.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Dr. Christopher Bailey, President, 
The Geological Society of America.]
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             Prepared Statement of Grantmakers in the Arts
    On behalf of Grantmakers in the Arts, we urge you to increase 
funding in Fiscal Year 2025 to $211 million for the National Endowment 
for the Arts (NEA) in the Interior Appropriations bill. Grantmakers in 
the Arts represents over 300 arts supporters across the Nation. As the 
only national association of public and private arts funders, 
Grantmakers in the Arts provides members with resources and leadership 
to support artists and arts organizations that advance the use of 
philanthropic and governmental resources to support the growth of the 
arts and culture across the United States.
    GIA has witnessed firsthand how NEA funding supports artists and 
organizations, ensuring that they can thrive and continue to contribute 
to American culture. However, as we look towards the future, it's clear 
that increased investment in the NEA is essential to sustain and 
amplify these efforts. The arts sector has faced unprecedented 
challenges, from the economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic to 
ongoing struggles with equity and access. By bolstering NEA funding, we 
can provide much-needed support to these individuals and institutions, 
fostering innovation, resilience, and cultural equity. Moreover, 
increased investment in the NEA will yield significant returns, not 
only in terms of economic growth but also in fostering social cohesion 
and community well-being.
    Additionally, we know that the widespread and multiplying effects 
of these NEA investments are undeniable. For every dollar spent on 
direct grants, nine dollars in private and other public funds are 
leveraged, generating more than $500 million in matching support. 
Moreover, 40 percent of NEA's grant-making budget is re-granted through 
State arts agencies and regional arts organizations. These re-grants 
are often to communities not served by private philanthropy, such as 
rural and remote communities. Private support cannot substitute the 
leveraging role of government cultural funding.
    The arts and cultural industries in our country contribute over $1 
trillion to the U.S. economy. The nonprofit arts and culture sector 
alone generated $151.7 billion in economic activity in 2022 with $73.3 
billion spent by arts and cultural organizations and an additional 
$78.4 billion in event-related expenditures by audiences. This activity 
in the nonprofit arts and culture sector supported 2.6 million jobs, 
provided $101 billion in personal income to residents, and generated 
$29.1 billion in tax revenue to local State and Federal Governments.
    The arts also play a significant role in well-rounded educational 
opportunities for our Nation's students. In recent years, there have 
been consequential declines in the teaching of arts. Loss of access to 
arts education is a fundamental matter of equity, which is especially 
important to address considering how creative learning bolsters 
academic success. Students with an education rich in the arts have 
higher GPAs and graduation rates. The positive impact of arts education 
has been shown to be greater in low-income communities, a positive 
result for the equity, efficiency and effectiveness of investing in 
arts education as an intervention to support increasingly equitable 
outcomes. The NEA's education programs have helped sustain support in 
local communities for arts education, which has been proven to close 
the education achievement gap, and benefit children and adults in many 
critical ways throughout their lives.
    We encourage you to consider increasing funding for the NEA both to 
bolster support and opportunities for all communities to be able to 
access and participate in the arts, but also for the significant impact 
it has on our Nation's economy.

    [This statement was submitted by Eddie Torres, President and CEO, 
Grantmakers in the Arts.]
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            Prepared Statement of the Great Lakes Coalition
    My name is Laura Rubin, Director of the Healing Our Waters-Great 
Lakes Coalition, a Coalition that since 2004 has been harnessing the 
collective power of more than 180 groups representing millions of 
people, whose common goal is to restore and protect the Great Lakes. 
Today, the HOW Coalition joins our regional partners in asking you to 
support full funding for the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) 
Great Lakes Restoration Initiative (GLRI) at $450 million and other 
Great Lakes restoration priorities in Fiscal Year 2025.
    The Great Lakes define our region's way of life, serving as the 
drinking water source for more than 42 million people, providing a rich 
aquatic habitat supporting a $7 billion annual fishing industry, and 
supporting a Great Lakes recreation industry that draws millions of 
tourists who boost the economies of our communities. In short, the 
Great Lakes are where millions of people live, work and play.
    Congress has long recognized how important the Great Lakes are to 
our region and our Nation. Protecting and restoring them is a non-
partisan priority for the people in the eight-state region and we are 
grateful for the much-needed support the region has received. We are 
seeing on-the-ground results because of the investments in Illinois, 
Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and 
Wisconsin. However, the Great Lakes still face many urgent challenges. 
Legacy pollutants persist, well-known contaminants like lead and toxic 
PFAS make drinking water unsafe, critical habitat continues to degrade, 
emerging contaminants are uncovered, and severe storms and floods 
overwhelm aging infrastructure. Ongoing Federal investments to face 
these challenges are especially important if we are to help the 
communities that have been most burdened by pollution and environmental 
harm.
    The Federal Government is an essential partner in our shared 
endeavor to help heal the lakes through our undertaking of one of the 
world's largest freshwater ecosystem restoration projects, the GLRI. 
Non-governmental groups, industries, businesses, cities, and States are 
forging partnerships to clean up toxic hot spots, restore fish and 
wildlife habitat, and combat invasive species. And we know we have more 
work to do before Great Lakes restoration is complete. The region still 
faces fish consumption advisories, beach closures, and drinking water 
restrictions. Without the continued full support from Congress this 
progress will slow, the challenges we face will get worse, and the 
price we pay will rise. We urge the subcommittee to support full 
funding for the GLRI at $450 million in Fiscal Year 2025.
                  environmental and economic benefits
    Great Lakes restoration efforts are improving the lives of millions 
of people and work is underway or completed on more than 8,000 
restoration projects throughout the region. These projects are 
benefiting communities, strengthening their resilience, and cleaning up 
the source of drinking water for over 30 million Americans. Because of 
GLRI investments, we are seeing impressive results: \1\
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    \1\ https://www.glri.us/results

  --5 Areas of Concern (AOC), the most polluted rivers and harbors in 
        the region--Presque Isle, Pa.; Deer Lake, Mich.; White Lake, 
        Mich.; Lower Menominee River, Mich. & Wis.; and Ashtabula 
        River, Ohio--have been delisted since the GLRI began. The 
        management actions necessary to delist 10 additional AOCs have 
        also been completed. In the previous two decades before the 
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        GLRI, only one AOC had been cleaned up.

  --113 beneficial use impairments (BUIs), a benchmark of environmental 
        harm that characterize AOCs, have been addressed in Illinois, 
        Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and 
        Wisconsin under the GLRI, over 11 times the total number of 
        BUIs removed in the preceding 22 years.

  --Vital support for the early detection, monitoring, and regional 
        response to address the threat of new and existing aquatic 
        invasive species, including invasive carp has been provided. 
        Invasive species control activities have been implemented on 
        more than 250,000 acres in coordinated efforts with federal, 
        State, and local partners.

  --2.2 million farmland acres in priority watersheds have received 
        technical and financial support, in partnership with other 
        programs, to implement nutrient management actions. 
        Conservation efforts across the Great Lakes have resulted in a 
        projected reduction of 2.8 million pounds of phosphorus runoff, 
        a major contributor to toxic algal blooms.

  --Over 7,400 river miles have been cleared of dams and barriers 
        resulting in fish swimming into stretches of river where they 
        have been absent for decades and increasing biodiversity and 
        water quality overall.

  --Habitat and wildlife connectivity continue to improve as the Fish 
        and Wildlife Service, National Park Service, Natural Resources 
        Conservation Service, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric 
        Administration worked with partners to restore, protect, or 
        enhance more than 500,000 acres of habitat, including 65,000 
        acres of coastal wetlands.

    Moreover, investments in Great Lakes restoration create jobs and 
lead to long-term economic benefits for the Great Lakes States and the 
country. A 2018 assessment estimated that for every $1 the GLRI 
invested through 2016 to clean up toxic hot spots in Areas of Concern 
(AOC), control invasive species, restore wildlife habitat, protect 
wetlands, and reduce toxic algal blooms more than $3 in additional 
economic activity regionwide will be produced through 2036 (see 
chart).\2\ The GLRI is revitalizing our waterfronts and leading a 
resurgence in water-based outdoor recreation and increasing tourism 
across the region.
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    \2\ University of Michigan. 2018. ``Socioeconomic Impacts of the 
Great Lakes Restoration Initiative.'' Research Seminar in Quantitative 
Economics.


    While these numbers are impressive, the stories behind them are 
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more illuminating:

  --When the small town of Grand Marais, Minnesota, on the coast of 
        Lake Superior realized their stormwater runoff was polluting 
        the lake, they acted. With funds from the Great Lakes 
        Restoration Initiative, in partnership with State and local 
        support, the town is updating part of the city's green 
        stormwater infrastructure, using natural features to restore 
        habitat, improve water quality, and reduce flooding by 
        enlarging its main stormwater ponds to handle the more frequent 
        100-year storms the city is now experiencing.

  --The iconic Two-Hearted River in Michigan has seen increased 
        opportunities for recreation and fishing thanks to restoration 
        that stabilized the riverbanks. In addition, 23 road crossings 
        over the river were repaired and culverts were replaced. The 
        combination of this work connected 35 miles of river and 
        reduced sediment pollution by more than 625 tons per year.

  --At the Ashtabula River in Ohio, a sediment cleanup and habitat 
        restoration project has restored the lower two miles of the 
        river and advanced efforts to get it de-listed as a Great Lakes 
        Area of Concern. The project has improved water quality and 
        deepened the river channel, making the lower Ashtabula suitable 
        again for maritime commerce, fishing, and recreational boating.

    These stories and more can be found here and at 
www.healthylakes.org.
                        building on a solid base
    How the region is accomplishing all this work is as impressive as 
what we are doing. The GLRI is a model for large, landscape-scale 
restoration. It ensures that the focus remains on the highest regional 
priorities that are identified by stakeholders through the GLRI Action 
Plans \3\, which are themselves based on a larger restoration strategy 
called the ``Great Lakes Regional Collaboration Strategy to Restore and 
Protect the Great Lakes.'' It also provides a way for the U.S. to meet 
its commitments under the 2012 Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement with 
Canada. The GLRI is a critical component towards ensuring that the 
goals we set for ourselves in both the agreement and in this 
comprehensive plan can be achieved.
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    Additionally, the GLRI is effectively allowing Federal agencies to 
obligate their GLRI funds quickly to on-the-ground work. The EPA, 
working with other Federal agencies like the USACE, USFWS, USGS, NOAA, 
NRCS, and NPS, quickly convert the funding they receive to supplement 
restoration activities through existing, authorized programs. This 
structure allows for funds to move quickly from EPA through the 
interagency agreements EPA reaches with other Federal agencies and onto 
the ground to complete important restoration work. This model also 
ensures accountability through the establishment of an ``orchestra 
leader'' (EPA), helps accelerate progress, and avoids potential 
duplication, all of which help save taxpayers money while focusing 
efforts on the highest, consensus-based priorities.
    This model, however, works best when both existing Federal agencies 
and programs, as well as the GLRI, have the funding they need to 
support each other.
               maintaining support until the job is done
    Even with the tremendous results we are seeing, the Great Lakes 
face serious threats. Sixteen U.S. AOCs are still contaminated with 
toxic sediment, threatening the health of people, curtailing 
recreational opportunities, and stunting the development of 
communities. Harmful runoff from farm fields continues to pollute our 
waters, causing toxic algal outbreaks that threaten water systems, 
public health, and economic vitality. Habitat loss and aquatic invasive 
species continue to damage our region's outdoor way of life and outdoor 
ecomomy. And communities across the Great Lakes region continue to 
grapple with crumbling, antiquated drinking water and wastewater 
infrastructure and are faced with a staggering $225 billion \4\ over 
the next 20 years for needed improvements, upgrades, and repairs in the 
eight-state region. Many of these threats disproportionately impact 
communities that have historically borne the brunt of environmental 
injustice, underscoring an urgency to address these issues for everyone 
in the region.
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    \4\ Data from the EPA's ``Clean Watersheds Needs Survey 2012 Report 
to Congress'' and the 2023 ``Drinking Water Infrastructure Needs Survey 
and Assessment--7th Report to Congress''.
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    We have solutions to these problems. Congress must continue to fund 
the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative (GLRI) and other fundamental 
restoration programs that produce results. Congressional investments 
can help communities replace lead pipes, address emerging contaminants 
like PFAS, end polluted stormwater runoff, and keep water affordable 
and safe for everyone. Congress must support action to stop invasive 
carp and other aquatic invasive species from invading the Great Lakes 
and support communities in enhancing their resilience to more frequent 
severe weather and flooding to help the Great Lakes adapt to a changing 
climate. We also need strong clean water protections, as well as 
institutions that are adequately staffed and funded to enforce 
protections that we all depend on.
                               conclusion
    There is work to be done, and to keep restoration on track, we 
recommend support for the following Great Lakes programs under the 
subcommittee's jurisdiction: at least $450 million for the Great Lakes 
Restoration Initiative; $8 million for the Fish and Wildlife Service's 
Great Lakes Fish and Wildlife Restoration Program; $15 million for the 
U.S. Geological Survey's Great Lakes Science Center; $35 million for 
invasive carp prevention undertaken by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service; and $15 million for the USGS to continue making progress on 
invasive carp research. We also urge the subcommittee to support 
national programs like EPA's Sec. 106 and 319 programs and fully fund 
EPA's Clean Water and Drinking Water State Revolving Funds consistent 
with the bi-partisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (Public Law 
117-58).
    The GLRI and other Great Lakes restoration investments are 
producing results. But serious threats remain. Cutting restoration 
funding now will only make projects harder and more expensive the 
longer we wait.
    Thank you again for your support and the opportunity to share our 
views with you. If you have any questions regarding this request, 
please do not hesitate to contact our Coalition's Senior Policy 
Manager, Alexis Lopez-Cepero, at alopez-cepero@npca.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Laura Rubin, Director of the 
Healing Our Waters-Great Lakes Coalition.]
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  Prepared Statement of Great Lakes Indian Fish & Wildlife Commission
  department of the interior, bureau of indian affairs, operation of 
                            indian programs
    a. Trust-Natural Resources Management, Rights Protection 
Implementation (RPI) No less than $50,643,000 for FY 2025, with 
$8,125,000 for Great Lakes Area Resource Management. An overall need of 
no less than $66 million has been identified by the five Commissions 
funded within RPI, presuming historically proportionate shares for each 
Commission.

    b. Trust-Natural Resources Management, Tribal Management/
Development Program (TM/DP): At least the $18,696,000 proposed for FY 
2025 and the TM/DP requests of GLIFWC's member Tribes.

    c. Trust-Natural Resources Management, Fish/Wildlife/Parks Program: 
At least $24,019,000 the amount proposed for FY 2025.

    Funding Authorizations: Snyder Act, 25 U.S.C. s. 13; Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act, (Public Law 93-638), 25 
U.S.C. ss. 450f and 450h; and the treaties between the United States 
and GLIFWC's member Ojibwe Tribes.\1\
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    \1\ Specifically, the Treaty of 1836, 7 Stat. 491; Treaty of 1837, 
7 Stat. 536; Treaty of 1842, 7 Stat. 591; and Treaty of 1854, 10 Stat. 
1109. The rights guaranteed by these treaties have been affirmed by 
various court decisions, including a 1999 US Supreme Court case.
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                    environmental protection agency
    a. Environmental Programs and Management, Geographic Programs, 
Great Lakes Restoration: At least $368,000,000, including no less than 
$20,900,000 for the Distinct Tribal Program (DTP).

    b. State and Tribal Assistance Grants, Categorical Grants, Tribal 
General Assistance Program: At least $85,009,000, the amount proposed 
in FY 2025.

    Funding Authorizations: Clean Water Act, 33 U.S.C. s. 1268(c); 
Water Infrastructure Improvements for the Nation Act, Pub. L. 114-322 
s. 5005; and treaties cited above.
    These programs fulfill Federal treaty, trust, and contract 
obligations to GLIFWC's member Tribes, providing vital resources to 
sustain their governmental programs. We ask that Congress maintain and 
enhance these programs.
              glifwc's fy 2025 funding request highlights
    1. Should Congress provide an increase to the RPI line item, GLIFWC 
will use its share to address salary disparities between its staff and 
their colleagues at State and Federal agencies--$300,000 of that 
increase would be used specifically to address the 44% vacancy rate in 
the Commission's warden force. While GLIFWC was able to use its FY 2023 
increase to adjust its pay scale, years of Continuing Resolutions have 
led to a recruitment and retention problem in GLIFWC's warden force, 
primarily based on salary disparities with other similar agencies. 
GLIFWC's next funding priority with its proportionate share of the 
remaining RPI increase will be to compensate all its employees at rates 
similar to their State and Federal counterparts, a situation that is 
similarly hindering its ability to attract candidates for open 
positions. Annual RPI increases are needed to keep pace with the 
Federal scale so that no such shortfall occurs again.

    2. Great Lakes Restoration Initiative funding of no less than 
$368,000,000, as proposed in FY 2025, with an increase to the Distinct 
Tribal Program (DTP) to at least $20,900,000.

    3. Full funding for contract support costs, as required by the 
ISDEA Act.

    4. Sufficient funding in the Tribal Management and Development line 
item for GLIFWC's member Tribes to fulfill their needs for reservation-
based natural resource programs and to fund the Circle of Flight 
wetlands program.
  glifwc's goal--a secure funding base to fulfill treaty purposes and 
                           legal obligations
    For over 35 years, Congress has funded GLIFWC to implement 
comprehensive conservation, natural resource protection, and law 
enforcement programs that: 1) ensure member Tribes are able to 
implement their treaty reserved rights to hunt, fish, and gather 
throughout the ceded territories; 2) ensure a healthy and sustainable 
natural resource base to support those rights; 3) protect public 
safety; and 4) promote healthy, safe communities. These programs also 
provide a wide range of public benefits, and facilitate participation 
in management partnerships in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota.
 glifwc's programs--promoting healthy communities and educating tribal 
                 members through treaty rights exercise
    Established in 1984, GLIFWC is a natural resources management 
agency of 11 member Ojibwe Tribes with resource management 
responsibilities over their ceded territory (off-reservation) hunting, 
fishing, and gathering treaty rights. These ceded territories extend 
over a 60,000 square mile area in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and 
Michigan.\2\ GLIFWC employs over 80 full-time staff, including natural 
resource scientists, technicians, conservation enforcement officers, 
policy specialists, and public information specialists.
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    \2\ GLIFWC's programs do not duplicate those of the Chippewa Ottawa 
Resource Authority or the 1854 Treaty Authority. GLIFWC also 
coordinates with its member Tribes with respect to Tribal treaty 
fishing that extends beyond reservation boundaries by virtue of the 
Treaty of 1854 and the reservations' locations on Lake Superior.
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    GLIFWC strives to implement its programs in a holistic, integrated 
manner consistent with the culture and values of its member Tribes, 
especially in light of Tribal lifeways that the exercise of treaty 
rights supports. This means not only ensuring that Tribal members can 
legally exercise their rights but supporting community efforts to 
educate them about the benefits (physical, spiritual, and cultural) of 
harvesting and consuming a more traditional diet, as well as promoting 
inter-generational learning and the transmission of traditional 
cultural and management practices.
    GLIFWC and its member Tribes thank Congress, and particularly this 
subcommittee, for its continuing support of these treaty obligations 
and its recognition of the ongoing success of these programs. GLIFWC's 
FY 2025 funding request includes two main elements:
1. BIA Rights Protection Implementation/Great Lakes Area Management 
        (Within the RPI Line Item):
    No less than $50,643,000. The five treaty commissions have 
estimated the cost of full implementation of the court orders governing 
their treaty-reserved rights at, collectively, no less than 
$66,000,000. The recent increases to RPI are greatly appreciated, but 
many years of Continuing Resolutions has led to shortfalls that are 
self-perpetuating without a proactive approach. With the FY 2023 
increase, GLIFWC was able to adjust its pay to the FY 2023 pay scale. 
However, the funding discrepancy is still significant. GLIFWC estimates 
that it would need an increase of at least $963,000 to fully adjust its 
compensation structure.
    Appropriating through Continuing Resolutions has not allowed the 
RPI line item to keep up with inflation and cost-of-living increases. 
This shortfall is most acutely felt in GLIFWC's warden force. To 
highlight the significance of this shortfall, GLIFWC's warden force has 
a 44% vacancy rate. GLIFWC provides conservation officers that enforce 
Tribal conservation codes and who work with local authorities when they 
detect violations of State or Federal criminal and conservation codes. 
These officers also play a significant role in educating Tribal youth, 
including teaching hunter safety classes, cultural practices, and 
harvesting regulations; they provide Tribal youth meaningful, healthy, 
and safe ways to engage in outdoor activities; and they build trust 
between communities and law enforcement. While recruitment and 
retention of law enforcement officers is difficult nationwide, the 
stagnation of RPI funding has made it impossible for GLIFWC to compete 
with State and Federal counterparts; no amount of creative thinking has 
made up for the difference in wages. Beginning GLIFWC field wardens 
make an average of $6,000 less than those employed by MI, WI, and MN, 
and by the time they reach 7 years at their respective agencies, GLIFWC 
wardens will make, on average, $31,670 less than their colleagues with 
the same experience in MI; $34,660 less than those in WI; and $49,758 
less than those in MN.
    These warden vacancies make meeting the treaty obligations to 
monitor treaty harvest more burdensome and are a blow to partnering 
jurisdictions. GLIFWC's wardens are often called upon to assist other 
jurisdictions in emergency situations, particularly in the more rural 
areas of Michigan's Upper Peninsula. In 2023, GLIFWC wardens responded 
to over 170 calls for assistance, for which they have received numerous 
acknowledgements. The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is currently without 
a stationed GLIFWC warden and relies on coverage from wardens that may 
be stationed many hours away. Seasonal harvesting activities, such as 
spring spearing, require wardens to travel to lakes located in areas 
with warden vacancies, and create added costs in travel and lodging for 
the duration of the season. This creates a self-perpetuating cycle of 
burnout and makes it increasingly difficult to hire new wardens as 
senior officers retire.
    There is a long history of Federal funding for treaty rights 
protection and implementation programs. By now, this subcommittee is 
aware of GLIFWC's holistic approach to protecting and supporting treaty 
rights and the natural resources that support them. We have always 
enjoyed and appreciated the subcommittee's ongoing support for GLIFWC, 
its member Tribes, and its programs. We urge the subcommittee to 
support increases to the RPI line item that allow the Commission's work 
to continue unabated.
2. EPA Great Lakes Restoration Initiative: $368,000. Distinct Tribal 
        Program (DTP): $20,900,000.
    GLIFWC supports continued funding for the Great Lakes Restoration 
Initiative (GLRI) as an important non-regulatory program that enhances 
and ensures coordinated governance in the Great Lakes, fulfillment of 
international agreements, and substantive natural resource protection 
and restoration projects. GLIFWC supports the continuation of GLRI 
funding at no less than $368,000,000 proposed in FY 2025.
               results and benefits of glifwc's programs
    1. Maintain the Requisite Capability to Meet Legal Obligations, to 
Conserve Natural Resources, and to Regulate Treaty Harvests: At its 
most basic level, GLIFWC's programs support Tribal compliance with 
court decrees and intergovernmental agreements that govern the Tribes' 
treaty-reserved rights. Funding for science and research enhances 
GLIFWC's ability to address ecosystem threats that harm treaty natural 
resources, including those related to climate change.

    2. Remain a Trusted Management and Law Enforcement Partner, and 
Scientific Contributor in the Great Lakes Region: GLIFWC has become a 
respected and integral part of management and law enforcement 
partnerships that conserve natural resources and protect public safety. 
It brings a Tribal perspective to interjurisdictional Great Lakes 
management forums and would use its scientific expertise to study 
issues and geographic areas that are important to its member Tribes but 
that others may not be examining.

    3. Maintain the Overall Public Benefits That Derive From its 
Programs: Over the years, GLIFWC has become a recognized and valued 
partner in natural resource management. Because of its institutional 
experience and staff expertise, GLIFWC has built and maintained 
numerous partnerships that: i) provide accurate information and data to 
counter social misconceptions about Tribal treaty harvests and the 
status of ceded territory natural resources; ii) maximize each 
partner's financial resources and avoid duplication of effort and 
costs; iii) engender cooperation rather than competition; and iv) 
undertake projects that achieve public benefits that no one partner 
could accomplish alone.

    4. Encourage and Contribute to Healthy Tribal Communities. GLIFWC 
works with its member Tribes' communities to promote the benefits of 
treaty rights exercise. These include the health benefits associated 
with a more traditional diet and the intergenerational learning that 
takes place when elders teach youth. In addition, GLIFWC sponsors a 
camp each summer where Tribal youth build leadership skills, strengthen 
connections to the outdoors, and learn about treaty rights and careers 
in natural resource fields.

    [This statement was submitted by Jason Schlender, Executive 
Administrator, Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission.]
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                   Prepared Statement of GreenLatinos
    GreenLatinos is an active community of Latino leaders confronting 
national and local environmental issues in Latino communities. We thank 
you for the opportunity to provide comments on the proposed FY 2025 
Department of Interior budget.
    The Department of Interior is a critical agency charged with the 
stewardship of some of the United States' most critical cultural and 
environmental resources including over 480 million acres of lands. We 
expect that all agencies within DOI, especially the National Park 
Service (NPS) and Bureau of Land Management which administer public 
lands significant to Hispanic and Latino cultures and histories, are 
accountable to the various executive orders and agency memorandums 
intending to establish increasingly equitable outcomes for underserved 
communities, including but not limited to:

  --Executive Order 13171--Hispanic Employment in the Federal 
        Government

  --Executive Order 13985--Advancing Racial Equity and Support for 
        Underserved Communities Through the Government

  --Executive Order 14045--Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, 
        and Economic Opportunities for Hispanics

  --Executive Order 13583--Establishing a Coordinated Government-wide 
        Initiative to Promote Diversity and Inclusion in the Federal 
        Workforce

  --Executive Order 11478--Equal Employment Opportunity in the Federal 
        Government

  --Executive Order 14035--Executive Order on Diversity, Equity, 
        Inclusion, and Accessibility in the Federal Workforce

  --Presidential Memorandum on Promoting Diversity and Inclusion in Our 
        National Parks, National Forests, Marine Protected Areas, and 
        other Public Lands and Waters

  --Department of Interior Secretary Order 3406 establishing the 
        Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Accessibility (DEIA) Council

    We appreciate the overall commitment demonstrated in the FY 2025 
budget towards improving the quality of equitable outcomes for the 
Department of Interior's workforce and managed lands. In order for the 
Department of Interior to meet its statutory and legislative mandates, 
it must be adequately funded and staffed in order to ensure success of 
its initiatives. To this end, we are supportive of the overall proposal 
of $17.8 billion for FY 2025, an $800,000,000 increase from 2023 
levels. This funding will be essential to ensure success of the America 
the Beautiful Initiative, ensuring equitable representation within 
public lands administration, and addressing the longstanding public 
lands maintenance backlog. While estimates vary, all studies 
demonstrate need much larger than current funding levels. The National 
Park Service estimates that as of FY 2023 Quarter 4 there is 
$23,263,000,000 in deferred maintenance and repair. At the local level, 
the 2021 Report Card for America's Infrastructure also identifies a 
maintenance backlog of an additional $5.6 billion for state parks and 
$60 billion for local parks.
    GreenLatinos has identified three budgetary categories for 
improvement regarding the proposed FY 2025 budget. Generally, our 
concerns can be categorized under the following:

    1. Ensuring accurate and equitable representation of Latino 
histories at conservation and recreation sites under DOI jurisdiction.

    2. Ensuring adequate funding for the maintenance of existing Latino 
Heritage sites and public lands in close proximity to communities of 
color and;

    3. Advancing equitable hiring practices and removing barriers to 
career pathways within DOI and its umbrella agencies to ensure fair and 
equitable representation of Hispanics and Latinos in employment through 
the Federal Government

1. Ensuring accurate and equitable representation of Hispanic and 
        Latino histories at conservation and recreation sites
contemporary latino underrepresentation in public land protections and 
                              designations
    The FY 2025 NPS appropriations for National Recreation and 
Preservation programs, and the Historic Preservation Fund indicate 
specific program funding related to African American, Japanese 
American, Indigenous American, and Native Hawaiian histories and 
cultural resources including but not limited to historic sites, 
landscapes, ecosystems, parks and rivers. We celebrate and commend the 
Park Service's work to elevate the stories of underserved communities. 
But there are minority groups that are not explicitly prioritized by 
the Historic Preservation Fund, National Recreation and Preservation, 
and other program appropriations. At worst, the exclusion of other 
racial and ethnic groups of color makes a Statement that those who are 
excluded do not matter. Hispanic and Latino Americans, Middle-Eastern 
Americans, and Alaska Natives have been excluded from meaningful 
investments in the Historic Preservation Fund and the National 
Recreation and Preservation appropriations year after year during the 
Biden Administration. As a result, despite the robust framework of 
policy direction, Latinos, communities of color, and various other 
underrepresented identity groups such as the LGBTQ+, Asian American and 
Pacific Islander, and other communities are not currently equitably 
represented in lands administered by DOI agencies.
    For example, less than eight percent of NPS managed National 
Historic Register of Places units specifically conserve the stories of 
Native Americans, African Americans, American Latinos, Asian Americans, 
women and other underrepresented groups. Only 190 out of the nearly 
96,000 (0.02%) National Historic Register sites center Latino 
histories, and many are tied to Spanish colonial or military history. 
States like California, New Mexico, and Texas have many units on the 
Historic Register, but other States with significant Latino populations 
have much less Latino Heritage sites. Other States do not have any 
federally-protected Latino Heritage Sites at all. Additionally, the 
National Park Foundation reports that only 24 of 429 (5.6%) National 
Park units specifically preserve Latino/a/x history; most represent the 
history of Spanish colonization rather than recognizing contemporary 
history and the multitude of Latino cultures.
    Recommendation: Establish program funding specifically for Latino 
Heritage Conservation
    As is, the NPS budget does not meet its declared intention to fund 
``new and critical responsibilities at parks preserving the stories of 
underrepresented communities and for interpretive projects that tell 
these stories''. We recommend a one-time allocation of $3,000,000 to 
allow DOI, in close collaboration with agency staff and conservation, 
historical, and community experts to conduct a national systematic 
review of reinterpretation opportunities for existing parks, recreation 
areas, and historic sites to identify areas to include Latino history 
where appropriate, including the identification of new sites for 
Federal protections.
2. Increase funding for the maintenance of existing Latino Heritage 
        Sites and public lands in close proximity to communities of 
        color
    Latino communities, and communities of color in general, 
disproportionately lack access to healthy and protected green spaces. 
Black and Latino families with children are the most nature-deprived 
groups compared to any demographic. Moreover, Latino history in America 
exists far into history preceding Spanish colonization. And one in 
every four Americans by the year 2060 will be Hispanic/Latino. Yet 
Latino heritage represents a mere fraction of all federally-protected 
lands. As such, protecting the small number of existing sites while 
supporting efforts to expand equitable access to nature must be 
prioritized in the final FY 2025 budget.
    Budget recommendations for increasing funding for the maintenance 
of existing Latino Heritage Sites and public lands in close proximity 
to communities of color
    Given the scale of nature deprivation and underrepresentation in 
currently protected Federal public lands, FY 2025 must ensure robust 
levels of funding for flagship programs such as the Historic 
Preservation Fund and Outdoor Recreation Legacy Program but also 
smaller, yet effective initiatives to expand representation, education, 
and awareness of underrepresented communities. Specifically we 
recommend the following FY proposals:

    Funding for public lands in close proximity to communities of color

  --Support $125,000,000 for the Outdoor Recreation Legacy Program 
        Initiative. (Budget of the US Government FY 2025, 95-96)

  --Support $2,203,886,000 for the National Parks and Public Land 
        Legacy Restoration Fund (DOI Office of Secretary: FY 2025 
        Department Wide Budget Justification, GAOA -3)

  historical interpretation, education, and cultural preservation of 
                         existing and new sites
  --Increase allocation of Historical Preservation Fund from $151 
        million to $250 million

  --Support $84,400,000 for National Recreation and Preservation (NPS 
        FY 2025 Budget Justification, Overview--3)

  --Support $11,200,000 for New and Critical Responsibilities (NPS FY 
        2025 Budget Justification, Overview--8), including $215,000 for 
        Interpretation and Education Capacity at the Cesar E Chavez 
        National Monument, (NPS FY 2025 Budget Justification, 
        Overview--9,13)

  --Support $145,627,000 for Cultural Resource Stewardship (NPS FY 2025 
        Budget Justification, ONPS-28)

  --Support $287,058,000 for Interpretation and Education (NPS 
        GreenBook, ONPS--42) including the Fund Latino Heritage 
        Internship Program (NPS FY 2025 Budget Justification, ONPS--50)

  --Support $10,050,000 for Interpretation and Education Programs (NPS 
        FY 2025 Budget Justification, ONPS--43)

  --Support $4,567,000 increase in overall funding for Interpretation 
        and Education Programs (NPS FY 2025 Budget Justification, 
        Overview--67)

  --Support $3,768,000 for Informational Publications (NPS FY 2025 
        Budget Justification, Overview--67)

  --Support $3,848,000 for Interpretation and Education Program (NPS FY 
        2025 Budget Justification, Overview--68)

  --Support $331,000 for Interior's Museum Program ``to provide policy, 
        guidance, training, and technical support for the Department 
        bureaus and offices that together manage over 75 million museum 
        objects in over 2,000 locations nationwide and abroad.'' (DOI 
        Office of Secretary: FY 2025 Department Wide Budget 
        Justification, DO 34-35)
                increased representation on public lands
  --Support $3,100,000 for Increasing Representation on Our Public 
        Lands (NPS FY 2025 Budget Justification, ONPS--44) including 
        support for $385,000 for continuing start -up costs for 
        Blackwell School NHS (NPS FY 2025 Budget Justification, 
        Overview--5,6)

  --Support $11,000,000 for ``new sites that preserve the stories of 
        the cultures and history across America'' (NPS FY 2025 Budget 
        Justification, Overview -8)
3. Addressing Diversity Deficits in DOI Workforce Composition
    We support DOI's increased funding to expand the total number of 
full-time equivalent staff (FTEs) up to 1,369 FTEs through 2023. 
Although progress has been made on the aforementioned commitments to 
diversify DOI's workforce composition, much work is needed to ensure 
this projected expansion includes Latinos and other members of 
underserved communities. For example, a 2021 DOI assessment of 
workplace composition revealed that:

  --26.2 percent of the total DOI workforce in FY 2021 was identified 
        of race and ethnicity categories other than ``White'' or ``Not 
        Identified.''' In comparison, the Civilian Labor (CLF) 
        benchmark from 2014 to 2018 was 32.5 percent

  --69.8 percent of the total DOI workforce was from the category 
        ``White'' in FY 2021, a 3.9 percentage decrease from 73.7 
        percent in FY 2014

  --6 of 11 bureaus fall below the DOI average of 26.2 percent for 
        workforce representation from race and ethnicity categories 
        other than ``White'' or ``Not Identified'' in FY 2021

  --65.7 percent of the promotions in 2021 were issued to employees in 
        the category ``White"

  --Of the 887,383 applications received for DOI job opportunities that 
        were audited in FY 2021, 78.4 percent of the applicants were 
        ``White"

  --81.6 percent of selected applicants in FY 2021 were ``White"
 budget recommendations to address diversity deficit in doi workforce 
                              composition
    We support allocations dedicated to advancing DEIA initiatives 
within DOI agencies. Congress must support the Biden Administration's 
proposed budget allocations to ensure timely advancement and adequate 
resourcing of these efforts. Successful implementation will help 
eliminate access barriers for underrepresented communities. We support 
the $2.8 million proposed for implementation of the DOI Equity Action 
Plan through the Office of Diversity, Inclusion, and Civil Rights; 
Office of Human Capital; and Office of Collaborative Alternative 
Dispute Resolution (DOI Office of Secretary--Department Wide Budget 
Justification, OS-11).
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide our recommendations. For 
any questions or clarifications please reach out to Pedro Hernandez, 
GreenLatinos Public Lands Advocate, at pedrohernandez@greenlatinos.org 
and Olivia Juarez, GreenLatinos Public Land Program Director, at 
oliviajuarez@greenlatinos.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Pedro Hernandez, Public Lands 
Advocate, GreenLatinos.]
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        Prepared Statement of Great Lakes Restoration Initiative
    I am Howard Learner, Executive Director of the Environmental Law & 
Policy Center (ELPC), the Midwest's leading environmental legal 
advocacy and sustainability innovation organization. ELPC's staff works 
throughout the Great Lakes States, in Washington D.C., and with Canada 
to protect the Great Lakes. Since 2008, ELPC has engaged with 
policymakers and partners to build, effectively implement, and expand 
the successful Great Lakes Restoration Initiative (GLRI).
    Thank you Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and all members 
of the subcommittee for the opportunity to submit testimony in support 
of full funding for the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative for FY 2025 
at $450 million as provided in the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative 
Act of 2019 (signed into law on January 5, 2021). GLRI funds have been 
effectively deployed to protect safe clean drinking water supplies, 
clean up toxic sites, protect wetlands and shorelines, hold off 
invasive species from entering the Great Lakes, and safeguard aquatic 
resources. Restoring the Great Lakes creates substantial environmental, 
public health, and recreational benefits, while fostering economic 
growth. GLRI is a program that has worked very well and has 
demonstrated consistent successes.
    The Great Lakes are a global gem. They contain 21% of the planet's 
surface fresh water supply, and 42 million people rely on the Great 
Lakes for safe drinking water. They provide a rich aquatic habitat for 
many species. They support a $7 billion annual fishing industry, and 
Great Lakes recreation draws millions of tourists who boost the 
economies of shoreline communities. In short, the Great Lakes are where 
many millions of people live, work, and play.
    ELPC strongly supported reauthorization of the GLRI and the ramp up 
of funding to $475 million in 2026, matching the funding the program 
received in its initial year. We request that the Committee fully fund 
the GLRI program with at least the authorized $450 million for FY 2025 
and, hopefully, consider a higher amount.

    I'll make two points in support of fully funding the GLRI:

    First, the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative is vitally important, 
and it is successful. This is a model Federal program providing 
significant environmental and economic benefits, and it is working 
well.
    Second, the challenges to the Great Lakes from increases in harmful 
algal blooms and climate change merit full funding of at least the 
authorized $450 million for FY 2025 and, again, the program could 
benefit from an even higher amount.
    1. The Great Lakes Restoration Initiative is vitally important and 
successful. This is a model Federal program providing important 
benefits, and it is working well with strong bipartisan federal, State, 
and local support.
    The Great Lakes Restoration Initiative has been a breakthrough 
program, injecting vitally needed funding and structure that had been 
missing in order to restore the Great Lakes. Over the past 14 years, 
the GLRI has achieved strong results with sustained funding. As the 
third GLRI Action Plan States: ``the GLRI has been a catalyst for 
unprecedented Federal agency coordination, which has, in turn, produced 
unprecedented results.'' The program supports shoreline and wetlands 
protection projects, keeping out invasive species, and reducing harmful 
algal blooms. Congress' recognition of the effectiveness of the Great 
Lakes Restoration Initiative is reflected in the strong bipartisan 
support for fully funding this program and, in some years, increasing 
funding.

    The GLRI funds and supports thousands of projects across the Great 
Lakes States to:

  --Improve water quality for safe drinking water supplies, fisheries, 
        and aquatic habitats.

  --Protect shorelines and restore wetlands.

  --Protect and restore native habitats and species.

  --Help prevent and control invasive species.

  --Clean up toxic sediments on lake bottoms.

  --Reduce agricultural and other nutrient pollution that causes 
        harmful algal blooms.

    The Great Lakes Restoration Initiative creates an effective system 
of coordination among Federal agencies, State entities, and local 
partners to achieve important outcomes to make a meaningful difference 
for the Great Lakes. Since its inception, the program has achieved 
strong results with sustained funding.
    There are countless examples of GLRI projects that deliver multiple 
benefits to the Great Lakes, from watershed and natural area 
restoration projects to addressing and ultimately delisting Areas of 
Concern. Below are three examples of projects ranging from smaller more 
community-based work to major projects to clean up waterways. The 
Healing Our Waters Coalition provides additional examples of projects 
across the Great Lakes region.

  --Powderhorn Prairie and Marsh Nature Preserve on Chicago's Southeast 
        Side: This project next to the Calumet Area of Concern restored 
        192 acres of wetland habitat, 630 linear feet of stream habitat 
        and 45 acres of native vegetation, in an area burdened by 
        industrial pollution and flooding. This project benefits the 
        community by decreasing flooding and reconnecting Powderhorn 
        Lake with Wolf Lake and Lake Michigan, thereby allowing passage 
        for native fish and wildlife.

  --Gorge Dam Removal, Cuyahoga River: This project will remove 100 
        years of accumulated dangerous sediment (nearly 900,000 cubic 
        yards) that sits behind the Gorge Dam to allow for its removal. 
        This project will improve water quality in the Cuyahoga River 
        and bring recreational opportunities and economic development. 
        The four local partners include the Northeast Ohio Regional 
        Sewer District, the city of Akron, FirstEnergy, and the Ohio 
        EPA.

  --Milwaukee Waterways Clean Up: This multi-year project will address 
        a century of pollution that entered the Milwaukee River, the 
        Menomonee River, and Milwaukee's Inner Harbor and created an 
        ``area of concern.'' This project will result in cleaner water, 
        safer fish, and access to recreation. The five local partners 
        on the project include the Wisconsin Department of Natural 
        Resources, Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District, We 
        Energies, the City of Milwaukee and Milwaukee County Parks.

    GLRI projects bring together a broad array of partners to achieve 
the program's goals and create jobs. The GLRI Action Plan III details 
work to address Areas of Concern (AOC). As of October 2023, six AOCs 
have been delisted including the Ashtabula River in Ohio, Lower 
Menominee River in Wisconsin, Presque Isle Bay in Pennsylvania, and 
Deer Lake and White Lake in Michigan. Work toward delisting has been 
completed in 10 areas. Significant work remains to be done, however, to 
fully address Areas of Concern across the Great Lakes basin.
    GLRI has broad regional economic benefits. A University of Michigan 
study showed that every Federal dollar spent on GLRI projects between 
2010 and 2016 will produce $3.35 in additional economic activity in the 
Great Lakes region through 2036.
    2. The challenges to the Great Lakes from fluctuating lake levels 
and increases in harmful algal blooms and climate change merit full 
funding of at least the authorized $450 million for FY 2025, and we 
urge Congress to consider a higher amount.
    While recognizing the GLRI's success, the growing threats from 
recurring severe algal outbreaks and climate change are getting worse.
    ELPC commissioned 18 leading Midwestern and Canadian university and 
research center scientists to write the state-of-the-science report, An 
Assessment of the Impacts of Climate Change on the Great Lakes, which 
we released in 2019, along with recommended policy solutions. The 
scientists concluded that climate change is causing significant and 
far-reaching impacts on the Great Lakes region, including increasingly 
extreme water level fluctuations, which wreak havoc on communities, 
homes, beaches, businesses, and the overall shoreline's built 
environment. Annual precipitation in the region has increased at a 
higher percentage than in the rest of the country, and more 
precipitation is coming in unusually large events, such as derechos and 
intense storms. Lake Michigan had record-high water levels in 2021--
especially when strong winds whip up heavy large waves, causing the 
extensive flooding that damaged the shoreline and infrastructure.
    According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 
(NOAA), March 2024 was the warmest March on record and the December 
2023 through February 2024 was the warmest such winter time period on 
record. NOAA reports that there is a 55% chance that 2024 will be the 
warmest year in NOAA's 175-year record and a 99% chance it will rank in 
the top five. Climate change impacts the Great Lakes.
    ELPC issued our Rising Waters: Climate Change Impacts and Toxic 
Risks to Lake Michigan's Shoreline Communities report in June 2022 
focused on the threats to people, communities, and businesses from high 
Lake Michigan water and wave levels, Using NOAA's Enhanced Digital 
Elevation Model data, this report visualizes the extent and severity of 
inundation at 12 hot spots along Lake Michigan's shoreline and 
surrounding areas due to extreme weather events of the scale expected 
in the near future. This report points to opportunities for the GLRI 
and other programs to invest in projects that will enhance coastal 
protection, resilience, and flood control.
    Climate change impacts on the Great Lakes also exacerbate the 
growing problem of agricultural pollution--mostly fertilizers and 
animal waste--in waterways that is the principal cause of severe 
recurring toxic algae outbreaks in western Lake Erie and other Great 
Lakes areas including Green Bay, WI and Saginaw Bay, MI. The Ohio EPA 
concluded that agricultural pollution accounts for about 90% of the 
phosphorus flowing into western Lake Erie.
    The current GLRI Action Plan provides a detailed look at strategies 
to reduce this harmful agricultural pollution, noting that GLRI 
projects have kept more than one million pounds of phosphorus out of 
the Great Lakes. Nutrient pollution threats to the Great Lakes region 
continue, and are amplified by changing rainfall patterns. Industrial-
scale animal facilities, often called concentrated animal feeding 
operations (CAFOs), produce enormous volumes of waste, including those 
that enter the Maumee River basin and then flow into Lake Erie. A more 
robust GLRI will continue to be an important source of solutions for 
this urgent problem.
    In conclusion, the Environmental Law & Policy Center and I commend 
the Senate Appropriations Committee and this subcommittee's strong 
support for the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative with each year's 
budget. GLRI is a successful program and a model for federal, State, 
and local cooperation. We urge the full Committee and this subcommittee 
to fully fund the successful GLRI program with at least the authorized 
$450 million for FY 2025 and, also, to consider additional funding. In 
addition to this funding request, the Environmental Law & Policy Center 
is pleased to support S. 3738, the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative 
Act of 2024, which extends the GLRI program through FY 2031.
    Thank you for your and the subcommittee Members' consideration, and 
I would be pleased to address any questions or suggestions that you and 
the other Members may have.

    [This statement was submitted by Howard Learner, Executive 
Director, Environmental Law & Policy Center.]
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             Prepared Statement of Healthy Schools Network
    Children are not just little adults, and schools are not just 
little offices.
    We, the undersigned forty-four education, health, environment, and 
children's health groups from coast to coast, urge the Committee to 
include $100 million for the US Environmental Protection Agency Office 
of Air and Radiation/Indoor Environments Division (EPA/OAR/IED) to 
protect school children and personnel from unhealthy environments in 
schools and childcare facilities and to help improve the environmental 
conditions of our Nation's schools.
    Indoor air quality (IAQ) has been ignored for over 30 years (US GAO 
1995, US GAO 2020), eroding children's health, thinking, and learning. 
EPA/OAR/IED needs $100 million to lead a national educational campaign, 
with expanded national and regional education and training grants, 
including $50M for State grants, and for direct technical assistance to 
schools. EPA must also update or prepare guidance to enhance school 
indoor environments which will deteriorate in warmer, wetter outdoor 
conditions, and for site resiliency and adaptation that will help 
schools stay open or reopen quickly after severe disasters.
    Since it takes months if not years to rebuild a storm-damaged 
school, schools clearly need to be more resilient to extreme weather 
and or to reopen safely and quickly after disasters. EPA should also 
issue new guidance to States and schools' communities on how to assess 
and remediate storm damages, including risks from legacy toxics exposed 
by structural damages (lead, asbestos, PCBs, pesticides, lab, leaning 
chemicals, vehicle maintenance chemicals).
    Indoor air pollution is a serious threat that is hard to address: 
there are multiple potential sources to consider. Other EPA pollutants, 
such as lead in drinking water, PCBs, asbestos, or hazardous waste, are 
simpler to identify. Air pollutants can come from poor construction and 
siting near hazardous facilities; leaky roofs and growing molds; 
chemical spills and odors from science labs; kitchen, locker room, 
lavatory stench; carbon dioxide accumulations; lack of incoming fresh 
air; carbon monoxide leaks; cleaning and disinfecting products; and 
pests and pesticides, or from occupants themselves and the processes 
and products used in classes. It is complicated, which is why high-
turnover school leaders and boards of education, as well as personnel 
and communities, need long-term sustained education, guidance, and 
support.
    Why school environments and impacts on children are urgent issues. 
Education is a social determinant of health. During a school year, 
about fifty-five million children in the US spend the majority of their 
waking hours when not at home in schools. Numerous studies have 
documented that school conditions such as polluted IAQ, mold, dust and 
debris, high heat, poor siting, proximity to hazards, noise, and poor 
lighting and sanitation, damage children's ``health, thinking, and 
learning'' (Harvard SPH 2017; NRC 2006). Today, 40% of school-aged 
children have at least one existing chronic health condition (CDC), 
including asthma, which affects 1 in 13 school-aged children and 
remains the leading cause of school absenteeism due to chronic illness. 
When we as a nation put health-compromised children in polluted 
buildings every day, we cannot expect the next generation to be as 
healthy or competitive as we are today.
    Schools as critical infrastructure for children. Schools are not 
climate-ready--which means more frequent long-term school closures, and 
not epidemic-ready, again suggesting more frustrating closures and 
hybrid learning schemes. Schools are in fact critical infrastructure 
for children, families, and communities. Indeed, attendance is 
mandatory in all States, and 98% of US children are in school every 
day.

  --Schools are more densely occupied than nursing homes and less well 
        maintained

  --95% of school occupants are women and children

  --Nearly half of all public school students are children and youth of 
        color.

  --The poorest communities hardest hit by COVID and climate change are 
        also the communities where children's health and learning are 
        impacted by the worst conditions.

  --An estimated 50 percent of public schools have outdated heating and 
        ventilation systems, and thousands of schools likely contain 
        PCBs and asbestos, as well as old, outdated chemical products.

  --The nation's public schools today contain over 8 billion square 
        feet of learning space valued at over $3 trillion, which means 
        more frequent long-term school closures ahead if they are not 
        physically resilient. Investments in electric buses and energy 
        retrofits are appreciated and welcome but will not guarantee 
        that a facility will survive the next super-storm intact.
    This is the Senate moment to act. Put the EPA's existing 
authorizations and 30 years of expertise on indoor air/environmental 
quality to work to improve school buildings and grounds, and thus 
health and learning outcomes for children, especially for those most 
disadvantaged, including children with disabilities.
    We appreciate the funding for school infrastructure through the 
various COVID programs, ARPA, BIL, and IRA, however EPA gets a scant 
$50 million over 10 years from IRA to address indoor air. While the 
Department of Energy (DOE), Department of Education (ED), and CDC have 
far larger programs, none match EPA's knowledge and experience on the 
physical environment of schools and its impact on children: neither ED 
nor CDC has an authorization or in-house expertise on school 
facilities. To date, EPA's level of funding is embarrassingly small, 
considering the documented environmental problems in schools, and the 
lack of knowledge in communities and among education leaders on how to 
address those issues effectively.
    Of the $100 million annual funding that we recommend for EPA's 
indoor air program to improve school indoor air and related issues, we 
urge that half be awarded to States, and the balance through 
cooperative agreements and regional grants to Tribes, cities, 
universities, and nongovernmental organizations to provide ``hands-on'' 
technical assistance and education to k-12 constituencies and NGOs. EPA 
regional offices should also have at least one expert in school Indoor 
Environments. EPA's authorizations and guidance for States, drawn rom 
existing State policies, has been enriched with inputs from multiple 
state users. Local and State-level agencies can be helpful partners 
with EPA in addressing key issues of low-income schools and rural-
remote schools.
    Thank you for your consideration of our request.

    AFT Connecticut
    Airthings, GA
    Alaska Community Action on Toxics
    American Lung Association
    Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America
    BrainWorks, GA
    Cedar Creek Elementary School, TX
    Children's Environmental Health Network
    Citizens' Committee for Children of New York
    Climate Families NYC
    Coalition for Healthier Schools
    Comunidades Sin Fronteras CSF-CT INC, CT
    Connecticut Roundtable on Climate and Jobs
    Cool Green Schools, MD
    Environmental Working Group
    First Focus on Children
    Great Neck Breast Cancer Coalition, NY
    Healthy Schools Network
    Healthy Schools Now, WEC, NJ
    Informed Green Solutions, VT
    International WELL Building Institute
    Learning Disabilities Association of America
    MADE SAFE, NY
    MD Children's Environmental Health Coalition (MD CEHC)
    Mothers Out Front, MA
    National Association of Federally Impacted Schools
    National Association of School Nurses
    National Center for Healthy Housing
    New Jersey Association of Designated Persons
    NYS Parent Teacher Association
    Protect Education, OH
    Public Advocacy for Kids (PAK), VA
    Pure Air Solutions of PA
    Responsible Purchasing Network
    Society for Public Health Education
    Society of State Leaders of Health and Physical Education
    Texas Environmental Justice Advocacy Services
    The Autistic People of Color Fund, NE
    Vermont Public Interest Research Group
    WellAir, CT
    Wing's Testing & Balancing Co., Inc., CT
    Women for a Healthy Environment, PA
    Women's Voices for the Earth, MT

    [This statement was submitted by Claire L. Barnett, Executive 
Director, Healthy Schools Network.]
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          Prepared Statement of the Hualapai Tribe of Arizona
    The Hualapai Tribe thanks the subcommittee for the opportunity to 
present this testimony in support of the Bureau of Indian Affairs' 
request in the amount of $45 million to begin to fulfill the United 
States' obligations under the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement 
Act, Public Law 117-349.
    This settlement was enacted in 2022 to resolve all of the Tribe's 
reserved water right claims in the State of Arizona. The act settled 
those claims by securing to the Tribe 4,000-acre-feet per year of 
Central Arizona Project water from the Colorado River, and authorizing 
$312 million to be deposited into a Hualapai Water Trust Fund to allow 
the Tribe to implement the settlement by constructing and operating an 
infrastructure project to deliver this water to our Reservation.
    The Settlement Act provides that Congress must appropriate all the 
settlement funds by April 15, 2029, for the settlement to remain in 
effect. If this does not happen, the Settlement Act will by its terms 
be repealed and the benefits of the settlement for not only the Tribe, 
but for all of the parties-including the United States, the State of 
Arizona, the Central Arizona Project, the Salt River Project and 
Freeport Minerals Company-will evaporate.
    A key component of the Settlement Act is that as soon as any 
appropriated funds are deposited into a Hualapai Water Trust Fund, the 
Tribe can begin to expend these monies to do the compliance activities 
required by Federal law for construction of the infrastructure project, 
including the environmental studies required by the National 
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). The appropriation of the $45 million 
requested by the Bureau of Indian Affairs will allow the Tribe to begin 
to do this important NEPA work now-so that when the Trust Fund is fully 
funded, the Tribe can begin the actual construction of the project that 
will finally deliver a safe and secure supply of water to the 
Reservation. It is urgent that this be accomplished as soon as possible 
for the reasons set forth below.
    The Hualapai Reservation encompasses approximately one million 
acres in northwestern Arizona. The Colorado River forms the 108-mile 
northern boundary of the Reservation through a portion of the Grand 
Canyon. The Reservation is arid. It has no significant surface streams 
other than the Colorado River. It has very limited groundwater 
resources. The Tribe's groundwater wells are a depletable resource and 
well levels on the Reservation have been dropping for years.
    The Tribe's principal residential community at Peach Springs relies 
exclusively on three groundwater wells in the Truxton Aquifer near the 
Reservation's southern boundary. Since those wells were installed in 
1975, the piping for the system is 49 years old and has failed in the 
recent past, leaving our community without water for several days. One 
of the wells has also suffered episodes of dangerous E-coli and 
coliform contamination and we have not been able to locate the source 
of the contamination. When that well is out of service because of 
contamination, we are unable to supply sufficient water to the 
community, so we have to implement strict mandatory conservation 
measures. Because this groundwater is currently the only source of 
water for our residential needs on the Reservation, we are very 
vulnerable to any short-term interruptions in supply from these wells, 
and also to the long-term decline in the levels in the Truxton Aquifer 
that supplies our groundwater.
    The situation is even worse elsewhere on the Reservation. There is 
a small well on the east side of the Reservation that provides water to 
ranchers and wildlife in that area, but the water is not potable for 
human consumption. On the western side of the Reservation, the Tribe 
successfully operates a tourist attraction, called Grant Canyon West, 
that overlooks the Grand Canyon and has one million visitors per year 
while employing several hundred Tribal members. For the past 3 years, 
after the two wells that served Grand Canyon West failed, the Tribe has 
been forced to haul water 15 miles to the original well sites, where 
the water must then be pumped for 35 miles out to Grand Canyon West. 
This patchwork system is burdensome, insecure and very expensive, but 
it is the only way we can continue our vital tourist operations at 
Grand Canyon West.
    The Colorado River is the only feasible water supply for satisfying 
the long-term future needs of people who live on our Reservation. Our 
Tribe needs delivery of Colorado River water both to provide a 
permanent and secure water supply for the domestic and residential 
needs of our present and future population, and also to fully realize 
the unique opportunities for economic development that we have at Grand 
Canyon West.
    The $45 million in the BIA funding request is the first installment 
of the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement Act and is essential if 
our Tribe is to attain a secure future on our Reservation. We have done 
everything possible to allow our Reservation to be a permanent livable 
homeland, including developing our government and developing an economy 
to provide jobs and income to our people-but the lack of a secure and 
replenishable water supply on our Reservation has been a major obstacle 
that prevents us from achieving economic self-sufficiency, a goal that 
Federal Indian policy has long favored. This is why we finalized the 
water right settlement with the State of Arizona and its major water 
users.
    Passage of the Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement Act was an 
historic event for the Hualapai Tribe, but it will be a hollow victory 
if Congress does not provide the resources to fully fund and implement 
the act before the Enforceability Date in 2029. In the history of 
Indian land and water settlements Congress has never failed to provide 
the funding necessary by the Enforceability Date of a settlement. 
Therefore, we urgently ask the subcommittee to now take the first step 
to full implementation of the act and include $45 million in the Bureau 
of Indian Affairs Indian Water Rights Settlement Account for the 
Hualapai Tribe Water Rights Settlement Act.

    [This statement was submitted by Sherry Parker, Chairwoman, the 
Hualapai Tribe of Arizona.]
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   Prepared Statement of the Humane Society Legislative Fund and The 
                  Humane Society of the United States
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for this opportunity to offer testimony on 
matters of importance to our organizations and to our millions of 
supporters. We thank you for the support and investment in animal 
protection in the subcommittee's Fiscal Year 2024 appropriations bill. 
We appreciate your continued consideration of our priorities in Fiscal 
Year 2025 and urge you to include the following requests in the FY25 
Department of Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies bill:
u.s. fish and wildlife service--big cat public safety act enforcement & 
                       office of law enforcement
    The Big Cat Public Safety Act (Public Law 117-243) was signed into 
law on December 20, 2022. This law revises restrictions on the 
possession and exhibition of big cats, including restrictions on direct 
contact between the public and big cats. On June 12, FWS issued a 
strong interim final rule implementing the act. Numerous large cat 
species are now subject to seizure and forfeiture when possessed or 
exhibited illegally, the disposition of which will require 
collaboration with U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S. Department of 
Justice, and private sector entities to ensure proper placement and 
care.

We urge the inclusion of the following report language:

    On June 12, 2023, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued its 
plans and regulations for implementing the Big Cat Public Safety Act 
(Public Law 117-243).

    The Service is directed to use all available enforcement tools, 
including confiscation, to quickly address violations of the law in 
order to limit harm to the public and covered big cats. The Service is 
further directed to provide a report to the Committee no later than 90 
days after enactment of this act describing any resource needs required 
to fully address this issue, expected coordination with other Federal 
agencies, State and local law enforcement and key stakeholders, and 
plans to raise public awareness on how to report violations.

    We also support and urge inclusion of the President's FY25 Budget 
request of $110.8 million, an increase of $18.94 million more than the 
FY24 enacted level, to appropriately enforce and the Big Cat Public 
Safety Act and other wildlife laws. This function is within the Office 
of Law Enforcement's Law Enforcement Operations program.
u.s. fish and wildlife service--endangered species act implementation & 
                      ecological services program
    In 1973, the Endangered Species Act (ESA) was signed into law, 
establishing science-backed national protections to recuperate 
critically threatened plant and animal populations from the brink of 
extinction. As once-common wildlife and plants are dwindling worldwide, 
and scientists warn that one million animal and plant species are 
headed toward extinction, many in the next few decades, due to habitat 
loss, climate change, wildlife exploitation, and other human-caused 
factors, the ESA continues to be one of the strongest tools the United 
States has to combat the current extinction crisis.
    Thousands of animal and plant species depend on the ESA for 
survival, yet it has been systematically and severely underfunded for 
decades. Currently, the Service only receives around one third of the 
funding needed to fully implement the act. As a result, many species 
sit in limbo, or receive funding only after declining even closer to 
extinction, when the costs of action are higher or the conservation 
options are more limited. The requested funding level of $857.32 
million will ensure every listed species receives a minimum of $101,000 
per year for recovery, allowing the ESA to be implemented the way 
Congress originally intended.
    Furthermore, we request the rejection of any policy riders 
impacting the recovery of species protected by the Endangered Species 
Act, including grizzly bears and gray wolves. Legislating ESA listing 
decisions undermines the statute itself, which vests this authority 
within Federal agencies. For over 50 years, the success of this act, a 
bedrock environmental law supported by the majority of Americans, has 
been supported by the idea that listing and delisting decisions under 
the ESA are best made by scientists and other technical experts at the 
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, not by Congress.
    Maintaining Endangered Species Act protections for large native 
carnivores such as grizzly bears and gray wolves is vital to the long-
term, sustainable recovery of these species, to our Nation's interest 
in preventing the loss of vulnerable species, and to maintaining 
healthy ecosystems. Large native carnivores are particularly likely to 
be imperiled. In addition to their direct killing by poachers, trophy 
hunters, and trappers, they face many other threats, including loss of 
habitat and prey species. This is exacerbated by the fact that they 
have long reproductive cycles and produce relatively few offspring. As 
dozens of U.S. and international scientists have documented, the loss 
of top native predators such as wolves results in trophic downgrading 
and the subsequent disruption of ecosystem functions.
             u.s. fish and wildlife service--trophy hunting
    African elephant and lion numbers have dropped steeply in the last 
decade from poaching, habitat loss, and other threats. Poorly managed 
trophy hunting exacerbates this decline. The Endangered Species Act 
requires that imports of these and other listed species enhance their 
survival. Congress previously directed FWS to reevaluate its trophy-
import policy to this end, but the agency has not yet done so. It is 
time for FWS to show that importing African elephant and lion trophies 
helps, not harms, the species.

We therefore urge the inclusion of the following bill language:

    None of the funds made available by this act may be used to issue a 
permit for the import of a sport-hunted trophy of an African elephant 
(Loxodonta cyclotis and Loxodonta africana) or lion (Panthera leo). The 
limitation described in this section shall not apply in the case of the 
administration of a tax or tariff.

We also request the inclusion of the following report language:

    The Committee reiterates its concern first declared in the 
explanatory material accompanying Public Law 116-94 regarding the 
efficacy of the Service's policies for evaluating import applications 
for African elephant and lion trophies. These two species have 
undergone steep declines in the last decade, driven in part by trophy 
hunting. The FWS updated its regulations regarding the importation of 
elephant trophies in March 2024, adding some additional criteria that 
the country of origin must meet. This change does not apply to African 
lion trophies, making FWS trophy hunting regulations an inconsistent 
patchwork that do not prioritize species conservation. Furthermore, it 
remains permissible to import African elephant and lion trophies into 
the U.S., a policy that continues to harm the viability of these 
species. Therefore, the Committee includes bill language that prohibits 
the issuance of any permit for the import of a sport-hunted African 
elephant or lion.
  u.s. fish and wildlife service- office of international affairs and 
                multinational species conservation fund
    The Multinational Species Conservation Fund supports international 
conservation efforts through five congressionally established grant 
programs benefiting several of the world's most imperiled species in 
their native habitats, often in conjunction with efforts under the 
Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species. We join a 
broad coalition of organizations in requesting $30 million for the MCFS 
to continue supporting the conservation of iconic species such as 
tigers, African and Asian elephants, rhinos, great apes, turtles, and 
tortoises.
    Additionally, we request $31 million for USFWS' International 
Affairs program which supports broader conservation efforts of our 
planet's rich wildlife diversity. By providing oversight of domestic 
laws and international treaties that promote the long-term conservation 
of plant and animal species by ensuring that international trade and 
other activities do not threaten their survival in the wild, the 
program is critical in building capacity for landscape-level wildlife 
conservation and stopping illegal wildlife trade.
        bureau of land management--wild horse and burro program
    To maintain the wild horse population in a humane and fiscally 
conservative manner, we, along with our partner stakeholders in the 
Path Forward for Wild Horse and Burro Management, request continued 
support for BLM's implementation of a humane, nonlethal, and effective 
program. We support a funding level of $171.917 million for the Wild 
Horse and Burro Program, an increase of $29.945 million from the FY24 
enacted level. We support directives to implement a nonlethal 
management strategy with specific attention on: increasing the use of 
fertility control, including measurable objectives in reducing 
population growth with fertility controls; targeting removals from the 
most heavily ecologically impacted and populated areas; expanding long-
term, off-range humane holding; developing contingency plans for 
emergency situations to ensure the continuation of proactive management 
under a variety of conditions including extreme drought; and continuing 
adoptions while fully implementing and enforcing existing safeguards, 
including pre-approval of adoption applicants and postadoption 
compliance checks for adopted wild horses and burros. Additionally, we 
request that the agency act expeditiously to fill the high number of 
staff vacancies within the program.
    bureau of land management & u.s. forest service--prohibition on 
             destruction of healthy wild horses and burros
    We strongly support and urge the subcommittee to include the bill 
language requested in the President's FY25 request that bars BLM and 
USFS from sending any wild horse or burro to slaughter or selling/
transferring any horse or burro in a manner that results in its 
destruction, and bars any federal, state, or local government that 
receives any wild horse or burro transferred from BLM or USFS from 
doing likewise.
   environmental protection agency--commitment to ending vertebrate 
                                testing
    The EPA has a history of embracing new approach methodologies 
(NAMs) that do not use animals to assess the safety of pesticides and 
chemicals. In 2019, EPA confirmed its commitment to NAMs by setting a 
goal to end reliance on mammalian testing for its regulated products by 
2035 and achieve a 30% reduction by 2025 (including tests commissioned 
in-house and that businesses must conduct). The Frank R. Lautenberg 
Chemical Safety for the 21st Century Act (Public Law 114-182) included 
statutory language to reduce and ultimately end use of animals in 
toxicity testing for risk assessments of chemicals under the Toxic 
Substances Control Act.
    Non-animal approaches include cell cultures, computer modeling, 
organ-on-a-chip technologies, and other methods that are often faster, 
cheaper and more predictive of human health or environmental risks than 
animal tests. Different animal species and even differing sexes or sub-
species can respond differently when exposed to the same chemicals. As 
a result, results from animal tests may not be relevant to humans or 
other non-target species, or may under- or over-estimate health 
hazards. NAMs, by contrast, are much more likely to provide relevant 
safety information to protect human health and the environment. 
Finally, because animal testing is time-consuming and expensive, it 
limits the number of chemicals and products that can be tested. 
Thousands of new chemicals are created every year with tens of 
thousands more already in use. Using animal tests to evaluate the human 
and environmental safety of all these chemicals would take decades to 
complete and cost millions of animal lives.

We therefore urge the inclusion of the following report language:

    The Committee recognizes that new approach methods (NAMs) represent 
the cutting edge of toxicity testing and should be prioritized for use 
in assessing the safety of pesticides and industrial chemicals over the 
use of animals and encourages EPA to continue to fund the rapid 
development and acceptance of NAMs and eliminate requirements for 
animal testing wherever possible.

    [This statement was submitted by Tiffany Mendoza-Farfan, Senior 
Legislative Specialist, Humane Society Legislative Fund.]
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       Prepared Statement of Interstate Mining Compact Commission
    My name is Thomas L. Clarke. I serve as Executive Director of the 
Interstate Mining Compact Commission (IMCC), an interstate organization 
comprised of 26 States that together produce over 98% of the Nation's 
coal, as well as other important minerals. My address is 437 Carlisle 
Drive, Suite A, Herndon, VA 20170. My phone number is 703 709 8654. My 
email is tclarke@imcc.isa.us. We request that, at a minimum, the FY 
2021 funding level of $68.59 million be restored in the budget of the 
Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) of the 
Department of the Interior for State and Tribal regulatory grants under 
Title V of the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977 
(SMCRA) for Fiscal Year (FY) 2025. We also request that at least $65 
million be appropriated for the hardrock abandoned mine lands (AML) 
program authorized by section 40704 of the Infrastructure Investment 
and Jobs Act (IIJA) in FY 2024. Most of this funding for hardrock AML 
can come from claims maintenance fees being paid by industry under the 
General Mining Law of 1872. Currently, a portion of these fees go to 
the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), but a significant amount in excess 
of BLM's needs is going to the US Treasury. We understand that the 
Interior Department and industry both support using this money for 
hardrock AML.
    States are given exclusive jurisdiction, or ``primacy,'' over 
regulation of the environmental impacts of coal mining under Title V of 
SMCRA. The core regulatory functions under this Federal law are carried 
out by the member States of IMCC. These duties include inspection and 
enforcement, ensuring that timely reclamation occurs following mining, 
designating lands as unsuitable for mining and permitting of mining and 
reclamation activity, as mandated by SMCRA. SMCRA calls for the cost of 
coal regulatory programs to be borne equally by the States and the 
Federal Government for mining on non-federal lands. The Federal 
Government pays one hundred percent of the cost of the program on 
Federal lands.
    Primacy States are being caught in a squeeze. Congress has cut 
OSMRE's budget for regulatory grants to States and Tribes for SMCRA 
Title V Regulatory Programs twice now in the last three fiscal years. 
The FY 2024 budget cut funding to $62.4 million, down from $65 million 
in FY 2023. A cut to $65 million was made in the FY 2022 budget. In the 
FY 2021 budget, and for many years before, coal regulatory grants to 
States were funded at $68.59 million per year. At the same time these 
cuts are being made, inflation is hitting these programs hard. All the 
States' costs are increasing. Chief among them are personnel costs 
(salaries, benefits plus indirect costs paid on a per person basis), 
which comprise over 80% of the total cost of program operation. 
Competitive pay and benefits for staff are unavoidable costs. According 
to State coal program managers' estimates, personnel costs, alone, will 
be $15.8 million higher in FY 2025 than in FY 2022. Under SMCRA, the 
Federal share of the personnel cost increase is $8.9 million.
    Congress has an obligation to provide at least enough coal 
regulatory funding to States to meet the requirements SMCRA imposes on 
the Federal Government. As noted above, the Federal Government is 
supposed to pay 100% of the program cost for Federal lands and 50% of 
the program cost elsewhere. It has not been living up to these 
obligations. In the 3-year period since funding was cut in the FY 2022 
budget, States have often been required to pay more than their share of 
the program costs. The Federal Government needs to live up to its part 
of the bargain with primacy States. The total grant requests for all 
State and Tribal Title V regulatory programs combined have consistently 
exceeded $71 million. For the last five fiscal years, the total of 
State and Tribal Title V budget requests has ranged from $71 to $76 
million. These requests represent what the States believe they will 
need from the Federal Government to operate their regulatory programs 
for the year.
    Fulfilling SMCRA's Federal mandate for effective environmental 
regulation of coal mining impacts comes at quite a bargain to the 
Federal Government. Just the fact that a significant portion of the 
cost is shifted to primacy States, alone, allows the Federal Government 
to avoid these costs. In addition, the Federal Government also realizes 
significant savings by using state employees to carry out the core 
program functions because state pay scales are, for the most part, 
lower than those of the Federal Government. With personnel costs being 
the biggest single category of Title V program expense (over eighty 
percent (80%) of the total cost of program operation), the States' 
lower personnel cost is another feature of state regulation that makes 
it cost-effective. If you compare the cost of operating any State's 
program under SMCRA per ton of coal produced to what the Federal 
Government spends to operate a Federal coal regulatory program in the 
State of Tennessee, you will find what a true bargain state 
implementation of SMCRA is. If State coal regulatory programs become 
ineffective because they are starved for funding, the only alternative 
is to replace them with Federal regulatory programs, which will be far 
more costly to the Federal Government than simply providing adequate 
funding for the States.
    It is no secret that coal production in America has declined. 
Instead of simplifying the regulatory challenge for States, the effect 
of this decline has been the opposite. The challenge of effectively 
regulating the environmental impacts of an industry in decline is much 
greater than when its markets were robust. Not only do States have the 
challenge of gaining compliance from mine operators who face declining 
and disappearing revenue, they also have the challenge of navigating 
their way through complex, high-stakes bankruptcies. Meanwhile, the 
number of permits that States must inspect has not declined at anywhere 
close to the falling rate of coal production. In addition, each 
individual coal mine continues to require inspection and enforcement, 
ensuring that timely reclamation occurs, and permitting for revisions 
to reclamation activities, as mandated by SMCRA throughout the multi-
year liability period. In many instances the regulatory workload may 
increase once production decreases or ceases altogether. Adequate 
funding to protect people and the environment from the adverse impacts 
of coal mining is more important than ever. Appropriation of adequate 
funding for State regulatory programs is essential if these programs 
are to achieve the objectives Congress established for them.
    A forward-looking observation that should be made concerns the 
potential impact of actions to eliminate emissions of greenhouse gases. 
A foreseeable collateral impact of greenhouse gas regulation may be 
reduction or elimination of revenue from the coal industry many States 
have been using to pay for their state share of the cost of SMCRA Title 
V regulatory programs. If this happens, the States are likely to need a 
significant increase in the Federal Government's share of regulatory 
program funding to make up the difference. In the aftermath of any 
significant new regulation of greenhouse gas emissions, well-funded 
State regulatory programs will be essential to the effort to 
effectively address the environmental impacts of existing mines.
    Clear indications from Congress that reliable, consistent funding 
will continue will do much to stimulate support for these programs by 
State legislatures and budget officers who, in the face of difficult 
fiscal climates and constraints, have had to deal with the challenge of 
matching Federal grant dollars with state funds. This is particularly 
true for those States whose match is partially based on fees from the 
mining industry, where significant reductions in mining and permitting 
activity translate to lower revenue, but not necessarily a 
corresponding reduction in the volume of regulatory work for State 
agencies.
    For all the above reasons, IMCC urges Congress to approve not less 
than $68.59 million for State and Tribal Title V regulatory grants in 
FY 2025, the same amount enacted by Congress in recent fiscal years 
through FY 2021. In doing so, Congress will continue to fulfill its 
obligation to ensure the States have the resources they need to 
continue their work on the forefront of environmental protection and 
preservation of public health and safety.
    In addition to the States' funding needs under Title V of SMCRA, 
there are some other issues on which the Committee's attention may be 
beneficial. First, an OSMRE rule that takes effect on May 9, 2024, 
makes radical changes that totally redefine the federal-state 
relationship, contrary to the letter and spirit of the law. Primacy 
States are granted ``exclusive'' regulatory jurisdiction. OSMRE has no 
direct authority in a primacy State over permitting, enforcement or any 
other matter. OSMSRE retains two main types of authority: (1) to 
conduct oversight of the States' efforts; and (2) to notify a State of 
a potential violation by a mine operator (a ``Ten Day Notice'' or 
``TDN'') so the State can take appropriate action. The new rule 
effectively merges these two processes by redefining and expanding the 
term ``violation'' to include anything OSMRE does not like about the 
way the State is operating its program. Thus, the new rule transforms 
the TDN process from its statutory purpose (correction of violations by 
mine operators) into an enforcement mechanism for OSMRE's use in 
regulating the State, itself. Any distinction between the separate TDN 
and oversight processes is eliminated. There is no limit on the number 
of Ten Day Notices OSMRE can issue. Authority to issue a barrage of 
TDNs completely abrogates the ``exclusive'' regulatory authority States 
are supposed to enjoy. By caprice, OSMRE has seized authority Congress 
withheld from it and gave to the States. This cannot be allowed.
    Second, OSMRE has plans to adopt a rule regulating emergency action 
plans (EAPs) for coal related dams as well as related implementation 
procedures for EAPs. One problem with this plan is that OSMRE has zero 
statutory authority to intrude into this area. Another problem is that 
it is an intrusion on the authority of 49 of the 50 States that already 
have state laws, independent of SMCRA, governing EAPs for all dams, not 
just those that are coal related. EAPs establish the procedures for 
notifying the public and actions to be taken in the event of a dam 
safety emergency. Having two sets of potentially conflicting rules on 
this subject can only result in confusion as to what should happen in 
the event a real emergency occurs, which could be very dangerous. This 
is a solution in search of a problem OSMRE has no business pursuing.
    Third, until 3 years ago, OSMRE met with States at least twice 
every year and provided a detailed briefing on where the States stood 
in utilization of the funds Congress appropriated for regulatory 
program grants under Title V of SMCRA. During these meetings, OSMRE 
accounted for all funds appropriated by Congress for these purposes. 
Despite many State requests to resume these discussions over the last 
three plus years, OSMRE has yet to provide this transparency. OSMRE has 
this information but has been unwilling to share it. This information 
is extremely useful to the States in wisely managing their program 
finances, which is now more important than ever following two cuts in 
Title V funding over the last 3 years. OSMRE needs to account to 
Congress and the States for the disposition of all funds appropriated 
for Title V grants since 2019. It also needs to be encouraged to resume 
financial briefings with the States like those it held in the past, so 
States do not remain in the dark as to what has happened with the US 
taxpayers' funds Congress appropriated for State use.
    In addition to the Committee's consideration of our funding 
requests, we urge the Committee to, through report language or 
otherwise:

    1. Prohibit OSMRE from spending any money to implement the new TDN 
rule.

    2. Prohibit OSMRE from spending any money to promulgate an EAP rule 
for dams.

    3. Require, as a condition of funding provided to OSMRE, that it:

    (a) account for the disposition of all funds appropriated for State 
Title V grants from FY 2019 forward, and

    (b) be required to meet with State Title V program managers twice 
per year and provide a complete, transparent breakdown on utilization 
of Title V funds.

    With regard to funding for State Title IV Abandoned Mine Land (AML) 
program grants, in FY 2025, the States and Tribes should receive the 
mandatory appropriation (before sequestration) under the pre-existing 
AML Title IV program as well as grant amounts set under Section 40701 
of the IIJA. We also support appropriation of $135 million for the AML 
economic revitalization (AMLER) program for economic and community 
development goals. IMCC very strongly supports direct payment of money 
appropriated for the AMLER program to States and Tribes within 90 days 
of enactment, as the FY 24 budget required. IMCC also supports funding 
for watershed cooperative agreements at $1.5 million.
    Section 40704 of the IIJA authorized a multi-year $3 billion 
hardrock AML program that would provide badly needed grants to States 
and Tribes to address the legacy hazards of non-coal mining. 
Unfortunately, the appropriation necessary to make this program a 
reality was omitted from the IIJA. Appropriations for FY 2022 through 
2024 have only supplied $5 million per year for the program, with only 
$1.7 million per year targeted to State grants. IMCC appreciates that 
demand for Federal funding is great, but much more is needed for this 
program to make meaningful progress in eliminating legacy mining 
hazards. The amounts in the Administration's proposed budgets for FY 
2022 and 2023, $65 million per year, would be a good start. We urge you 
to appropriate at least this amount for the IIJA Section 40704 hardrock 
AML program in FY 2025. As noted above, funding for most of this is 
available from fees being paid by industry.
    We appreciate the opportunity to submit this statement on OSMRE's 
budget for FY 2025. We also endorse the statement of the National 
Association of Abandoned Mine Land Programs (NAAMLP), which goes into 
greater detail regarding the implications of OSMRE funding for the 
States and Tribes related to the AML program, as well as hardrock AML 
funding needs. We would be happy to answer any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by Thomas L. Clarke, Executive 
Director, Interstate Mining Compact Commission.]
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           Prepared Statement of InterTribal Buffalo Council
                      introduction and background
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and distinguished 
members of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on the Interior, 
Environment and Related Agencies, my name is Ervin Carlson, and I am a 
member of the Blackfeet Nation in Montana and serve as the President of 
the InterTribal Buffalo Council (ITBC). I greatly appreciate the 
opportunity to provide testimony to the members of this subcommittee. 
My testimony primarily involves funding requests from the Department of 
the lnterior (DOI) (specifically the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA)), 
but funding could also be obtained from the National Park Service 
(NPS), the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) and the Indian Health 
Service (IHS).
    ITBC was granted a Federal charter in 2009 pursuant to Section 17 
of the [Indian Reorganization Act and is comprised of eighty-three 
federally recognized Indian Tribes in twenty-one States now with over 
sixty buffalo herds. The combined membership of the ITBC Tribes is 
approximately 1,000,000 Indian people.
    American Indians have a long-standing spiritual and cultural 
connection with buffalo that has not diminished with the passage of 
time. Historically, buffalo provided the Tribes with food, shelter, 
clothing, and essential tools for survival. The near extinction of 
buffalo was analogous to the tragic history of American Indians in this 
country. However, today's efforts at restoring buffalo on Tribal lands, 
largely through the efforts of ITBC, signifies survival of the revered 
Tribal buffalo culture. ITBC Member Tribes strive to restore buffalo to 
Tribal lands to rekindle the cultural, traditional, and spiritual 
relationship between buffalo and Tribes and to utilize buffalo to 
promote the health, and economic well-being of Tribal populations.
    On behalf of the Member Tribes of ITBC, I am requesting an 
appropriation of $17 million which is a definite increase over the $1.4 
million we are presently receiving from the Department of Interior for 
funds to allow the organization to: 1) increase funds for the Tribal 
herd development grant program to sustain and grow Tribal buffalo 
herds, 2) to fund ITBC efforts to serve as a meaningful buffalo 
management partner to Federal agencies, and 3) to fund scientific 
research on the benefits of buffalo meat for the prevention and 
treatment of diet related diseases. The majority of this requested 
amount comes from totaling the requests for herd development funds from 
our member Tribes. We have been receiving funding in the vicinity of $1 
million for years despite growing from a dozen Tribes to 83 Tribes. 
Clearly, we are not able to make the types of transfers our members 
would like and need to establish or sustain herds.
                            funding history
    ITBC has been funded through various methods from the Department of 
Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs including the President's budget, 
Congressional earmarks, or administrative action since 1992. ITBC's 
funding history illustrates Congressional and Administrative support 
for ITBC's restoration and management program and the Tribal buffalo 
herds. Annual funding of ITBC provides evidence that buffalo 
restoration and management is not a limited or one-time ``project'' but 
a ``recurring program.'' ITBC has most recently been funded from the 
BIA, Natural Resources, Tribal Management/Development Program line 
item.
    The ITBC has worked for several years on the Indian Buffalo 
Management Act to create a permanent buffalo restoration and management 
program in the Department of Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs. This 
act would authorize an annual appropriation for Tribal buffalo programs 
and allow ITBC to expand technical services to its member Tribes. The 
Indian Buffalo Management Act was originally introduced by 
Representatives Don Young, Deb Haaland, Tom Cole, and others and passed 
the House in 2021. It was more recently introduced by Senators Martin 
Heinrich, Markwayne Mullin, Jon Tester, and Dan Sullivan in this 
Congress (S. 2908). The House companion bill from Congressman Doug 
LaMalfa, Mary Peltola and others was reported out of the House 
Committee on Natural Resources in March. The Department of Interior has 
testified in favor of the bill during both Republican and Democratic 
administrations.
                federal commitment to traditional foods
    At the request of the Department of Interior, Bureau of Indian 
Affairs, ITBC prepared a written comparison of the funding provided to 
Tribal fish commissions and the funding provided ITBC, primarily due to 
the fact both entities were funded out of the same line items of the 
Department of Interior budgets. This analysis of public records, 
historical documents and case law revealed that seven fish commissions 
receive Federal funding in an amount exceeding $140 million annually 
from various Federal agencies at the Department of Interior, the 
Department of Commerce, and the Environmental Protection Agency. The 
seven fish commissions cover 52 Tribes over 12 States, and an 
approximate population of 525,000 enrolled Tribal members. A single 
fish commission employs 10 times the staff we do and operates two 
additional offices. We don't begrudge these Tribes or the funding they 
receive. It is clearly deserved and needed but the comparison to the 
buffalo Tribes is stark.
    The level of Federal funding to fish commissions is largely due to 
the well-known Boldt decision that awarded fishing Tribes co-management 
authority over salmon with the States, access to half of the returning 
fish each year, and declared the security of Indian fishing rights was 
a trust obligation of the United States. While the Boldt decision 
focused on Tribal access to fish, the ruling supports all American 
Indians having a right to their traditional foods. This decision 
supports an argument that the Federal Government's trust responsibility 
extends to the return of buffalo to Tribes.
    Article XI of the 1868 Treaty of Fort Laramie guarantees Tribes 
access to buffalo ``so long as buffalo may range.'' Unfortunately like 
many other treaty provisions, the Federal Government has failed to live 
up to this promise. Recently, the United States Supreme Court examine 
the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty and upheld Tribal off-reservation hunting 
rights in the Herrera decision. Adequate funding for Tribal buffalo 
restoration provides an opportunity for the Federal Government to honor 
the 1868 Treaty language and a commitment for Tribes to access a 
traditional food source.
    An increase in funding to ITBC will enhance the necessary 
infrastructure to provide buffalo to a larger segment of the Indian 
community. This in turn will Lead to greater self-determination and 
food-sovereignty opportunities for Tribes through production of their 
own traditional foods and creation of economic opportunities. I 
respectfully request an increase in the Tribal Management and 
Development Program and the Fish, Wildlife, and Parks and Natural 
Resources Tribal Priority Allocation Programs in the BIA. The 
subcommittee may also consider using programs in the NPS and USFWS to 
increase the allocations for buffalo restoration and management 
involving the InterTribal Buffalo Council. We do routinely provide an 
important service to the National Parks who have herds of buffalo. When 
those Parks reach their carrying capacity they call ITBC, and we round 
up and transport identified buffalo from them (obviating the culling of 
those herds). We then find Tribes who want to take those buffalo, so we 
transport them, presently at no cost to the National Park involved.
                     funding increase justification
    ITBC's primary objectives are to restore buffalo to Tribal lands, 
and to sustain, conserve and manage existing Tribal herds through the 
promotion of traditional buffalo handling practices and beliefs. ITBC 
strives to aid Tribes to meet the needs and desires of individual 
Tribal programs. ITBC attempts to balance the varying interests of 
Member Tribes from maintaining herds for spiritual purposes to 
utilizing buffalo as viable economic development endeavors. ITBC 
accomplishes these objectives as follows:
                increase in herd development grant funds
    ITBC distributes $1,000,000 of its funding directly to ITBC Member 
Tribes via Herd Development Grants (HDG). The HDG funding has been 
stagnant despite the continued growth of the Tribal membership of the 
organization. In FY 2025, unmet needs for ITBC members exceeded $17 
million based upon the exigent needs of Tribal buffalo herd managers. 
ITBC members use these funds for a variety of purposes including water 
development, range management, fence construction and repair, corrals, 
purchasing handling equipment, supplemental feed, and administrative 
costs. These funds will create new jobs in Indian Country, create 
sustainable Tribal buffalo herds, and allow Tribes to utilize buffalo 
for economic development. I am requesting an increase of $15,600,000 to 
provide ITBC members with this desperately needed aid.
                funding for federal agency partnerships
    ITBC is a member of various Federal and State working groups 
organized to address buffalo issues. ITBC collaborates with NPS, the 
U.S. Forest Service, and the USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection 
Service regarding Yellowstone buffalo. ITBC provides critical 
transportation for translocation of Yellowstone buffalo to Tribal 
lands. However, ITBC cannot participate to its full potential and serve 
as a meaningful partner due to a lack of funding for these 
collaborative efforts.
    Since its inception, ITBC has partnered with the NPS on buffalo 
management efforts including population management through roundups and 
distribution of buffalo to Tribes. Badlands, Theodore Roosevelt, and 
Wind Cave National Parks have surplus buffalo that need to be moved 
from the parks to ensure that those ecosystems remain intact. This also 
allows NPS to avoid slaughtering these surplus buffalo which negates 
likely public outcry with needless slaughters. ITBC bears the costs of 
transporting these surplus buffalo but has not been funded for its role 
in these activities. Additionally, the USFWS does not provide funding 
programs to Tribes for buffalo restoration efforts. I would request the 
Committee appropriate funds to support ITBC's role in protecting NPS's 
wildlife and provide buffalo restoration in the USFWS in the amount of 
$2,000,000.
           health related research and school lunch programs
    ITBC has a long-term objective to prevent and treat diet related 
diseases in Native populations through the reintroduction of buffalo 
meat into daily diets. ITBC has eight Member Tribes serving Tribal 
raised buffalo in their school lunch programs to address health 
concerns of school-age children. ITBC anticipates expanding this 
program to 20 Tribes in the next 3 years with increased funding. 
However, these efforts to coordinate with health care providers have 
been limited by the lack of scientific evidence of the health benefits 
of natural, grass-fed buffalo diets. ITBC believes research to develop 
concrete evidence of these health benefits will facilitate ITBC 
partnerships with health programs to prevent and treat diet related 
diseases in Native populations. This critical research will support 
ITBC's efforts to provide buffalo meat to school lunch programs as a 
healthy alternative to other meat products. ITBC wants to partner with 
IHS to fund this research to promote traditional, healthy Tribal diets. 
I am requesting $100,000 to promote and fund this research.
             technical assistance, education, and outreach
    ITBC assesses current and potential Tribal buffalo programs to 
determine technical service and infrastructure needs. After this 
assessment, ITBC then provides technical assistance in the areas of 
wildlife management, ecological management, range management, buffalo 
health, cultural practices, and economic development. Further, ITBC 
assists with construction of fencing and corrals, facility design, 
water development, and equipment research. ITBC provides annual 
training sessions (national and regional) designed to enhance Tribal 
buffalo handling and management. However, current funding levels do not 
allow ITBC to be responsive to the needs of the growing ITBC 
Membership. ITBC only has two technical services providers which limits 
the frequency our member-Tribes receive this support. The hiring of 
more technical services providers would assist Tribes with reaching 
goals of self-sufficient herds.
    Additionally, ITBC staff provide educational presentations to 
school-age youth, Tribal buffalo managers, and others. The topics of 
these presentations range from buffalo restoration, conservation 
efforts, and the historical, cultural relationship between buffalo and 
American Indians. However, current funding limits outreach, educational 
efforts, and staff training. Additional funding in the amount of 
$500,000 would allow more American Indian youth to benefit from the 
important history of buffalo and Tribal.
                               conclusion
    ITBC has existed for over three decades to assist Tribes with 
restoration of buffalo to Tribal lands for cultural purposes. No other 
program exists to assist Tribes with buffalo restoration and 
protection. ITBC and its Member Tribes have created a new Indian 
Reservation industry that includes job creation and new revenue for the 
Tribal economies. ITBC ultimately hopes to restore Tribal herds large 
enough to support local Tribal health needs and generate sufficient 
revenue to achieve economically self-sufficient herds.
    ITBC and its Member Tribes are appreciative of past and current 
support from Congress and the Administration. However, I urge the 
Committee to increase ITBC funding to a total of $17,000,000 which is a 
level commensurate with the growth of the Tribal Buffalo Programs and 
other Tribal wildlife programs. This increase will demonstrate 
Congressional respect for the National mammal and allow ITBC to fulfill 
its responsibilities to restore, protect, and manage buffalo.
    I would like to thank this Committee for the opportunity to present 
testimony and I invite you to visit ITBC Tribal buffalo projects and 
experience firsthand their successes. Questions and/or comments 
regarding any of the issues presented within this testimony may be 
directed to Mr. Ervin Carlson, President, Troy Heinert, Executive 
Director, and/or to Ms. Majel Russell, Legal Counsel, at (406) 259-
8611. ITBC's office is located at 520 Kansas City Street, Suite 300, 
Rapid City, SD 57701.

    [This statement was submitted by Ervin Carlson, President, 
InterTribal Buffalo Council.]
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          Prepared Statement of the Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe
    On behalf of the Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe, I am pleased to submit 
this written testimony on our funding priorities and requests for the 
Fiscal Year 2025 Department of the Interior (DOI) U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS), Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), and Indian 
Health Service (IHS) budgets.
    The following investments will strengthen Tribal nation-building 
and support our goal of self-sufficiency:

     tribal funding priority--u.s. fish and wildlife service (fws)
    1. $1 Million for the Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe's Co-Management/Co-
Stewardship of the Dungeness National Wildlife Refuge

    2. Amend the Appropriations Act's Contract Support Cost (CSC) 
Provision for Non-BIA Agreements
       tribal funding priorities--bureau of indian affairs (bia)
    1. $36.6 Million to Fully Fund and Expand the TIWAHE Initiative

    2. $177.018 Million Increase Funding for Top Ten Tribal Priority 
Allocations (TPA) and Recurring Base Funding
         tribal funding priorities--indian health service (ihs)
    1. $383.64 Million increase over FY2024 enacted to Support Current 
Services

    2. $10.26 Billion for Purchased & Referred Care
tribal and national funding priorities--bureau of indian affairs (bia), 
 bureau of indian education (bie), and the indian health service (ihs)
    1. Advanced Appropriations for Tribal Programs and Services

    2. Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and Section 
105(l) Leases

    3. Ensure Agencies are Sufficiently Staffed to Carryout Trust and 
Treaty Obligations
    Funding for Tribal Nations accounts for approximately 1.16% of the 
entire Federal budget despite mandatory Federal trust and treaty 
obligations. Since Tribal programs and services are funded with non-
defense discretionary appropriations, the funding levels are severely 
deficient and unable to address our Tribal communities' unmet needs; 
and these unfulfilled Federal obligations continue to grow 
exponentially on an annual basis. As a result, American Indians and 
Alaska Natives (AI/AN) continue to rank near the bottom of all 
Americans in terms of health, education, and employment status. These 
harrowing statistics and funding inequities demand a shift in the 
current governmental appropriations paradigm not only because it is the 
right thing to do but because it fails to align with the legally 
enforceable fiduciary obligation on the part of the United States to 
protect Tribal treaty rights, lands, resources, and assets.
    Congress can take proactive steps to empower Tribal governments, 
and strengthen Tribal economies, and Indian communities by enacting 
measures that respect Tribal sovereignty and are truly reflective of 
the Government-to-Government relationship. First and foremost, expand 
Tribal Self-Governance and Self-Determination across the Federal 
system. Self-Governance generates a larger return on the Federal 
investment and allows for maximum flexibility and better programmatic 
outcomes at the local level. It is the most effective policy for the 
economic vitality of Tribal Nations and has proven successful in 
helping Tribal Nations rebuild, grow, and thrive.
    Other measures Congress can adopt to aid in the promotion of Tribal 
Nation Building and self-sufficiency include, providing mandatory 
funding for all Tribal programs and services, requiring the 
Administration to submit on an annual basis the total cost to fully 
fund trust and treaty obligations, provide direct funding to Tribes, 
demolish funding silos and create a legal mechanism to allow funding 
from all sources to be combined and allocated through Self-Governance 
compacts, increase funding for Tribal priority allocations and other 
recurring base programs, and ensure there are Tribal set asides for 
every funding opportunity.
     tribal funding priority--u.s. fish and wildlife service (fws)
    $1 Million Dollars--U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service--Jamestown 
S'Klallam Tribe's Co-Management/Co-Stewardship of the Dungeness 
National Wildlife Refuge--Our Tribe requests a Federal investment of 
one million dollars to support our Co-Management/Co-Stewardship 
Agreement with the U.S. FWS. This funding will support a range of 
critical services and ensure the health and vitality of our ancestral 
homelands, the Dungeness National Wildlife Refuge (DNWR). The Tribe's 
ability to undertake this co-management role is unquestioned and is 
evidenced by the primary role the Tribe has and continues to play in 
habitat preservation, conservation, and environmental stewardship of 
our ancestral homelands, traditional waterways, and resources.
    Amend the Appropriations Act Contract Support Cost (CSC) Provision 
for Non-BIA Agreements--We urge Congress to amend the Appropriations 
Act Contract Support Cost (CSC) provision to allow Tribes to fully 
realize the intent of the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act (ISDEAA) and address the structural impediments that 
hinder Tribal-Federal Co/Management/Co-Stewardship Agreements with land 
management agencies within the Department of the Interior (DOI). The 
ISDEAA requires full payment of CSC for administrative and overhead 
costs associated with implementation of contracted and compacted 
programs, services, functions, or activities (PSFAs). However, at 
present, the indefinite CSC appropriation is only available to the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) 
and other DOI agencies/bureaus must pay CSC out of programmatic 
dollars, leaving less funding for land management functions. This 
inconsistency undermines the intent of the ISDEAA and discourages 
Tribal-Federal co-management agreements. Congress can alleviate the 
incongruent interpretations of the ISDEAA and ensure consistent 
application of the law across DOI by amending the current language by 
deleting ``Bureau of Indian Affairs and Bureau of Indian Education'' 
and replacing it with Department of the Interior.
       tribal funding priorities--bureau of indian affairs (bia)
    $36.6 Million to Fully Fund and Expand the TIWAHE Initiative--The 
TIWAHE Initiative, established in 2015, fosters a dynamic approach to 
the delivery of services by embracing the Self-Governance/Self-
Determination service delivery model that has proven successful in 
enhancing the health and well-being of Tribal families and communities. 
Current funding levels support 10 (10) demonstration sites, 
representing sixty-five (65) Tribes. BIA's one time funding opportunity 
this past year allowed for planning grants for an additional 12 (12) 
TIWAHE Incubator Tribes seeking to become demonstration sites. 
Jamestown is one of the Tribes that was selected to participate as an 
incubator Tribe. We used the TIWAHE planning funding to create a 
synergistic model for the delivery of programs and services that better 
align with our community customs, values, and traditions.
    Adopting a coordinated approach that is grounded in Tribal values 
and principles leads to better outcomes at the local level. TIWAHE 
provides Tribes greater flexibility to build social service 
infrastructure that functions as all-inclusive and is responsive to 
addressing a broad range of issues such as poverty, substance abuse, 
domestic violence, youth suicide and other related issues. We are 
confident an additional investment of $36.6 million in the TIWAHE 
program will prove successful in promoting the development of 
prosperous, resilient, and self-sufficient Tribal communities.
    $177.018 Million Increase Funding for Top Ten Tribal Priority 
Allocations (TPA) and Recurring Base Funding--Tribal Priority 
Allocations (TPA) and Recurring Programs are consistently identified as 
funding priorities by the Tribal Interior Budget Council (TIBC) because 
they provide core funding that supports critical government programs 
and services. Flexibility in the use of funds to support local needs is 
an important aspect of this funding. TPA and Recurring Program funding 
provides security and certainty for Tribes rather than funding provided 
through grant dollars. There has been a growing trend among agencies to 
fund Tribal programs and services with grant dollars rather than 
providing base and recurring funding. Grant funding is incongruent with 
the trust and treaty obligations and Tribal Self-Governance.
         tribal funding priorities--indian health service (ihs)
    $383.64 Million increase over FY2024 enacted to Increase Support 
for Current Services
    The Federal trust obligation requires significant investment in 
Tribal healthcare systems. To maintain current services, factors such 
as the inflationary rate, pay costs, contract support costs, population 
growth and staffing needs for recently constructed facilities all need 
to be fully funded. When these mandatory factors are not funded, Tribes 
must supplement programs with their own limited revenue, or chose 
between limiting services or shutting down services completely.
    $10.26 Billion Purchased and Referred Care (PRC)--PRC funds are 
used to purchase essential health care services, including inpatient 
and outpatient care, routine emergency ambulatory care, transportation, 
and medical support services, such as diagnostic imaging, physical 
therapy, laboratory, nutrition, and pharmacy services. PRC funds are 
extremely important to the Portland Area Tribes because the Portland 
Area lacks hospitals and specialty care centers, so Tribes in the 
Northwest are forced to turn to the private sector to fulfill this 
need.
tribal and national funding priorities--bureau of indian affairs (bia), 
 bureau of indian education (bie), and the indian health service (ihs)
    $8.74 billion Behavioral Health Mental and Alcohol and Substance 
Abuse -The Jamestown Healing Clinic provides a holistic approach to 
treatment for those who suffer from opioid use disorder through the 
provision of wrap-around services, to include, primary care, dental 
services, transportation to and from the clinic, employment, housing, 
and other associated needs.
    Advance Appropriations for Tribal Programs and Services--Providing 
appropriations 1 year in advance for the BIA, BIE and IHS will mitigate 
the adverse financial effects of Federal budgetary uncertainties and 
allow Tribes to engage in more effective strategic planning, spend 
funds more efficiently, grow our Tribal economies and businesses and 
increase the quality of care and well-being of our Tribal citizens and 
community. Tribal Nations are resilient but the continuous delays and/
or lapse in Federal appropriations continues to disrupt the execution 
of Tribal government operations. The Federal Government has a legal and 
moral obligation to make sure that funding for trust and treaty 
obligations is not delayed. Time is of the essence when it comes to the 
survival of our people, our language, our culture, our homelands and 
resources and our sovereignty. Advance appropriation is a budgetary 
solution that does not impact spending caps and allows Tribes to 
continue to provide critical services.
    Reclassify Discretionary Spending for Section 105(l) Leases and 
Contract Support Costs to Mandatory--The agencies are legally required 
to compensate Tribes for Section 105(l) lease obligations and contract 
support costs (CSC) in accordance with the ISDEAA, but these 
obligations have grown tremendously since their inception. As far back 
as 2014, Congress acknowledged that obligations of this nature are 
typically addressed under mandatory appropriations because they have 
the potential to impact other programs. Separate, indefinite accounts 
were established to support Section105(l) leases and CSC but have 
resulted in the unintended reduction of funding for critical Tribal 
programs. Reclassifying mandatory funding for CSC and 105(l) leases is 
needed to prevent programmatic decreases.
    Ensure Agencies are Sufficiently Staffed to Carryout Trust and 
Treaty Obligations--Retention and recruitment of staff continues to be 
a challenge for our Federal Agency partners. The Federal Government 
must have competitive hiring packages and effective and efficient 
recruitment practices in place. The impacts of an understaffed 
workforce trickle down to the Tribal level with severe consequences--
funding distribution is delayed, and the processing of paperwork and 
other essential transactions impede Tribal programs and services. In 
addition, many of the Agencies, such as the BIA have taken on 
additional responsibilities associated with the number of new 
initiatives to include 477, Missing and Murdered, TIWAHE, 105(l) 
Leases, Federal Indian Boarding School, and others requiring additional 
staff and funding.
    The Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe continues to support the requests and 
recommendations of our Regional and National Indian Organizations. 
Thank you.

    [This statement was submitted by Hon. W. Ron Allen, Tribal 
Chairman/CEO, Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe.]
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     Prepared Statement of Johnson County Department of Health and 
                              Environment
    Our country's programs to reduce air pollution have been a 
tremendous success but, despite nationwide progress, air pollution 
still causes tens of thousands of early deaths in America and is a 
serious public health problem resulting in negative health impacts to 
millions every year. We are requesting your support to address this 
significant problem.
    Johnson County Department of Health and Environment (JCDHE) and 
other State and local clean air agencies across the country are charged 
with running the essential air quality programs that protect public 
health. Unfortunately, these programs have been underfunded for many 
years and need significant increases in resources. To meet current and 
expected obligations, we ask that Congress provide $500 million in 
Section 103 and 105 (Clean Air Act) Federal grants to State and local 
air agencies in FY 2025 to support current programs and new challenges 
and allow flexibility for State and local air agencies to use Federal 
grants for their highest priority needs. As much as possible, these 
grant increases should not require matching funds (e.g., providing 
funding under Section 103 authority, which does not call for a match).
    Federal grant funding under Sections 103 and 105 of the Clean Air 
Act, which support State and local clean air and climate agencies, has 
been essentially flatlined for nearly 20 years, despite many new 
regulations and requirements. These grants have not even kept pace with 
inflation, while our programs have become more costly and complex. 
Continued shortfalls in Federal funding will leave communities at risk 
and will result in cuts to existing programs, just as climate change 
and air pollution are exacerbated. For example, here in Kansas, the 
Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) and the two local 
programs have suffered through staffing issues that have impacted 
service to industry, particularly in permitting. Stagnant funding has 
resulted in personnel seeking better paying positions at Federal or 
private institutions with which KDHE can't compete. Management in turn, 
is burdened with continuously filling vacancies and training rather 
than focusing on program responsibilities and protecting public health.
    Additional funds would be used nationally for important efforts, 
such as advancing new programs and expanding existing clean air efforts 
that protect vulnerable communities; supporting pollution detection and 
visualization through air monitors and sensors; supporting small 
business programs; and addressing climate change with activities that 
include planning, monitoring, permitting, enforcement, adaptation and 
resilience. JCDHE would continue close collaboration with KDHE to 
overcome the multiple challenges non-attainment with the fine 
particulate matter standard is expected to bring to the Kansas City 
metropolitan area.
    We work hard to improve air quality, but sufficient Federal funding 
is critical. Please ensure that Federal grants to State and local air 
quality agencies under Sections 103 and 105 of the Clean Air Act are 
increased to $500 million in FY 2025. I would be glad to answer any 
questions you have or provide more information. Thank you for any 
assistance you can offer.

    [This statement was submitted by D. Charles Hunt, M.P.H. Director 
and Rollin Sachs, Environmental Specialist-Air Quality.]
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 Prepared Statement of Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa 
                                Indians
    Thank you for giving me the opportunity to testify on behalf of the 
Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians concerning the 
Tribe's FY 2025 funding needs primarily in the BIA, IHS, and EPA 
accounts. The Tribe is located in northern Wisconsin. Our 144 square 
mile reservation lies in Vilas, Iron, and Oneida Counties. The name of 
our Tribe means ``Lake of the Torches'' and derives from our ancestors' 
practice of harvesting fish at night by torchlight. Nearly half of our 
reservation is water with 260 lakes, 65 miles of streams, rivers, and 
lakes.
    Thank you for your bipartisan support of Tribes and for educating 
your colleagues on the needs of Tribal governments and the government-
to-government relationship between the United States and Indian Tribes. 
The Chippewa bands to which we belong entered into many treaties with 
the United States. Our ancestors forever ceded territory to the Federal 
Government, but reserved the right to hunt, fish, and gather food in 
the ceded territory.
    Our Tribal citizens live close to the land, Waaswaagoning, our 
homeland. We harvest fish, operate a fish hatchery, cultivate wild 
rice, and hunt deer and other game. For that reason, protection of our 
waters, lands, air, wildlife, and vegetation are critical to the health 
of our citizens. These resources are at risk from pollution, 
contaminants such as PFAS ``forever'' chemicals, mercury, and chronic 
wasting disease that endanger our citizen's health.
    Our enrollment is over 4,400 members and as a rural, remote 
Wisconsin reservation, our Tribal government is the first responder for 
so many needs. We operate the ``Lake of the Torches Casino,'' provide 
jobs, and generate revenues from tourism and other Tribal enterprises. 
Despite being the largest employer in Vilas County, Wisconsin, 
according to the most recent HUD data (FY 2024), there are 725 Native 
families on our reservation whose family income ranges from less than 
30% Median Family Income to 80% of Median Family Income. The U.S. 
Census Bureau lists Median Family Income on our Reservation as $51,742 
(2022). That means that these Tribal families earn less than $15,222--
$41,394 annually. This imposes great hardships on these families and 
the Tribe.
    Increase FY 2025 funding for BIA Law Enforcement and Pub. L. 280 
Court accounts--I will be blunt. Annual Federal appropriations to the 
BIA Public Safety & Justice account and Pub. L. 280 Tribal Court 
accounts are insufficient to address the immediate and urgent needs of 
rural, remote Tribal communities for public safety officers and Tribal 
Courts. In FY 2024, Congress appropriated $274 million for BIA Criminal 
Investigations and Police Services, and $21 million for the Pub. L. 280 
Tribal Court program, the same funding levels as FY 2023. As you 
consider the FY 2025 budget, I ask this subcommittee to consider the 
great unmet need we face for public safety services and Tribal Court 
needs and prioritize these accounts for increases.
    There are three significant community safety issues in our 
community: 1) a fentanyl epidemic and with it; 2) an increase in mental 
health crises; and 3) the emergence of human trafficking (MMIP). Our 
Police Department sees a direct correlation between the presence of 
fentanyl and offenses such as child abuse/neglect, elder abuse, 
domestic violence, sex trafficking and property crimes.
    We began to see heroin use in 2018 that has now transitioned to 
fentanyl alone or meth/fentanyl combined. Of the nine law enforcement 
agencies in the surrounding jurisdictions, Tribal law enforcement 
incidents and service calls are much higher than any other 
jurisdiction. From 2020 to 2023, the Tribe's Police Department averaged 
6,000 calls per year and the trend is increasing. From 2018 through 
2023, our Police Department made a total of 2,062 arrests; of those 706 
or one-third were for meth. While meth arrests are down, heroin/
fentanyl drug arrests are increasing.
    Fentanyl overdoses are common and officers must use several Narcan/
naloxone to revive users who have strong addictions. For non-Indian 
offenders, our officers must drive off-reservation to county detention 
facilities. Thus, the two patrol officers/12-hour shift are reduced 
because an officer is driving off-reservation.
    About 50% of Tribal Police arrests involve drugs, yet we only have 
7 Full-Time Patrol Officers, 2 Sergeants, 1 Chief of Police, and 1 
Detective, 1 part-time Detective Canine Officer, and 2 administrators. 
Our Tribal Police Department should be twice its size. Vilas County has 
a police force of 39 and Oneida Country has a police force of 36.
    We also see an increase in the number of welfare investigations 
(welfare checks) the Tribe performs. These checks are for well-being, 
suicide threats, missing persons, and voluntary and involuntary 
emergency commitments. These checks take time and we are shortstaffed.
    Please prioritize the BIA Criminal Investigations and Police 
Services and Tribal Pub. L. 280 Court accounts for meaningful 
increases. Public safety and judicial services are essential Tribal 
government functions. Our Tribe subsidizes law enforcement, Tribal 
Court, Wellness and Drug Court operations with some $3 million 
annually. We have MOUs with Wisconsin County police and sheriff 
offices. We apply for Department of Justice COPS grants and work with 
State and other Federal agencies to improve our law enforcement 
capabilities and training, such as the FBI, DEA, AFT, and Department of 
Homeland Security. But we need recurring BIA funding to sustain our 
Police Department and Tribal Court.
    We are proud of our Tribal Police and the incredible job they do 
with the few personnel and resources they have. But we are losing good 
officers due to non-competitive salaries and limited retirement 
benefits that do not vest until 10 years of service, twice the time a 
State-employed officer must wait for their pension to vest. Our 
situation is not sustainable. I respectfully request that Congress pass 
this session the bipartisan ``Parity for Tribal Law Enforcement Act,'' 
H.R. 4524 and for this subcommittee to provide funds to support such 
legislation.
    Our officers serve 12-hour shifts and respond to 50% more calls 
than surrounding non-Indian jurisdictions that have two and three-times 
the number of officers. Our Tribal Court docket handles domestic abuse, 
drug and alcohol abuse, truancy, theft, with nearly half of our Tribal 
Police arrests involving meth, heroin, and fentanyl. At times, Tribal 
Police are also called to appear in court to provide security for cases 
involving heated custody disputes and child welfare matters. The 
Officers are also first responders for emergency management services 
including motor vehicle crashes, spills, fires, and weather incidents.
    Our officers are also challenged by the fact that many Tribal 
health and social service programs operate weekdays only and close on 
the weekend. Physical and mental health services for individuals 
detained by Tribal Police after hours and on weekends require Tribal 
Police to transport individuals off-reservation for such services and 
programs. This leaves us short-staffed on a recurring basis. Tribal 
communities need more resources to keep families safe.
    Tribal Court--For our Tribal Court, we employ one full-time Judge, 
two contracted Judges, three Clerks, a full-time Tribal Attorney/
Prosecutor, and four judicial staff.
    Our court handled over 2,000 cases in FY 2023, including Civil Code 
violations, Juvenile Code violations, illegal drug possession, 
foreclosures, foreign judgments and garnishments, probate, adoption, 
child welfare petitions, family custody petitions, domestic abuse/
harassment injunctions. The Tribe must subsidize the Tribal Court based 
on the inadequate funding we receive from the BIA under current 
appropriations. We need Federal assistance to cover the costs of 
additional court personnel, including two deputy clerk positions, an 
associate judge position, and a bailiff for Tribal Court hearings, 
elections and other public events.
    We also operate the ``Zaagiibagaa'' Healing to Wellness Court 
(Ojibwe word interpreted as budding shoot or sprig, new life, new 
beginning) funded through the State of Wisconsin and SAMHSA grants as 
an alternative to incarceration program. It is a four-phase program: 1) 
treatment; 2) skill building; 3) walking straight on mother earth; and 
4) transition: getting ready to leave the nest.
    Tribal members suffering from addiction do not receive the level of 
treatment required to break addictions when incarcerated in county 
jails. Medical data reveals that six-month and greater term treatment 
programs work better than limited term treatments. With increases in 
the BIA accounts supporting alternatives to incarceration, and an 
opportunity to compete for such funds, the Tribe would like to develop 
transition programming for Tribal inmates. Please prioritize for 
funding increases in FY 2025 those demonstrably successful programs 
that reduce addiction, recidivism, and improve the wellness of rural 
Tribal communities.
    Wisconsin is a Pub. L. 280 State. Tribal Police refer all criminal 
cases to the District Attorney in Vilas County Circuit Court. Criminal 
prosecutions for drug and alcohol are turned over to the Vilas County 
District Attorney. If the District Attorney's Office declines, the 
Tribal Attorney/Prosecutor may prosecute the case on a civil citation.
    Increase FY 2025 Funding for BIA Human Services accounts--In FY 
2024, Congress appropriated $164 million for BIA Human Services 
programs, about a 2% cut from the FY 2023 enacted level of $167 
million. We cannot understand these funding decisions. The BIA Social 
Services account was cut to $53 million in FY 2024, Welfare Assistance 
funding was flat at $78 million, and ICWA was cut $1 million to $17 
million for FY 2024.
    ICWA enables the Tribe to maintain and protect the sanctity of the 
Anishinaabe family unit. The ICWA is one significant legislative action 
that provides the opportunity to protect the preservation of the Tribal 
family unit and Tribal culture, values, and norms.
    The Tribal Court handled about 2,000 cases in 2023. There were 248 
petitions in FY 2023 involving children and families, an increase of 7 
% over the prior year. These petitions involve child welfare, child 
support, parental and custody issues, domestic relations or divorce, 
guardianship, paternity actions, truancy citations and domestic abuse 
and harassment restraining order petitions/notice of injunctions and 
injunction hearings. There were 52 petitions relating specifically to 
Child Welfare involving child abandonment or children left without 
proper care, custody or guardianship. Over half of these petitions were 
filed by the Child Welfare office under emergency conditions.
    We need more resources in the Social Services accounts, including 
funds for increased Tribal foster families and housing improvements. We 
seek to provide child advocacy services on the Reservation, rather than 
having to add further trauma to Native children by providing various 
exams and forensic interviews 250 miles away in Marchfield, Wisconsin 
and 165 miles away (round trip) in Wausau, Wisconsin. We need more 
resources on the Reservation to address the impacts of child abuse, 
child sex abuse, and trauma.
    Expand the Tiwahe Initiative Program--Congress, responding to the 
request by Tribes, is gradually expanding funding for the Tiwahe 
``Family'' Initiative Program that assists Tribes by supplementing 
ICWA, BIA Social Services, HIP, and Job Training and Placement (JTP) 
programs with Federal funds and authority to Tribes to utilize these 
funds to help keep at-risk Tribal families together and to bring the 
parents and children of such families culturally appropriate services 
and programs to put them on a better path. We urge the subcommittee to 
increase funding for the Tiwahe Initiative so that more Tribes may 
benefit from this successful program.
    Increase FY 2025 Funding for BIA Rights Protection Implementation 
(RPI) account and EPA's GLRI account--In FY 2024, Congress appropriated 
$49.2 million for the BIA Rights Protection Implementation account 
(Trust-Natural Resources), the same level as FY 2023. As a member of 
the Great Lakes Indian Fish & Wildlife Commission (GLIFWC), the Tribe 
supports the Commission's request for no less than $8.125 million of a 
requested $50.6 million for Rights Protection Implementation. More 
broadly, the Tribe supports full funding for the RPI at no less than 
$66 million.
    Increase funding for BIA Natural Resources, Wildlife and Parks, 
TMDP, Fish Hatchery Operations and Maintenance Accounts--The Tribe 
operates a comprehensive Natural Resources Program, including the 
William J. Poupart, Sr. Fish Hatchery that produces and stocks Walleye, 
Fingerlings, Perch, Brown Trout, and White Sucker Fry. The hatchery is 
25-years old and requires significant renovations if we are to maintain 
our fish stocks and compete to stock Wisconsin lakes and waters. 
Growing fry to fingerlings to better ensure their survivability is 
costly. The hatchery supports Tribal subsistence and non-Tribal fishing 
stocking Reservation and ceded territory waters to provide sports 
fishing in northern Wisconsin. We appreciate the $290,000 U.S. F&WS 
award to replace worn pumps and make other emergency improvements, but 
we have only $1.3 million set aside from ARPA and State funds for a 
$6.5 million hatchery upgrade. Please take Tribal infrastructure 
replacement needs into account in the FY 2025 budget. Miigwech.

    [This statement was submitted by George Thompson, Vice President, 
Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians.]
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        Prepared Statement of the League of American Orchestras
    The League of American Orchestras urges the Senate Interior, 
Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations subcommittee to 
provide at minimum $211 million for the National Endowment for the Arts 
in fiscal year 2025. We are grateful for consistent bipartisan support 
from Senate and House Appropriators that has enabled the cultural 
agencies to provide much-needed grants to arts organizations throughout 
the country so they can bring inspiration, creative opportunity, and 
connectedness to people of all ages.
    The National Endowment for the Arts has long held a unique Federal 
leadership role; its direct and indirect grantmaking, indispensable 
research, and inspiring convenings advance learning and provoke 
important action by arts organizations, practitioners, other Federal 
agencies, and the public to advance the myriad benefits of the arts and 
reach more Americans. A direct grant awarded by the NEA is a highly 
sought national designation because it demonstrates an organization has 
offered an artistic engagement that a rigorous panel review process 
deems worthy of Federal investment. Every orchestra-large and small-is 
a vital part of its local ecology, and those that receive an award from 
the National Endowment for the Arts highly value this support of their 
continual work to enhance the experience of live music for people of 
all ages. The following examples highlight recent orchestra-led 
projects supported by the NEA.
    The Boise Phil received an FY24 Challenge America grant to support 
free performances for more than 7,000 3rd-5th grade students. From 
Treasure Valley's largest public school district of West Ada to 
individual homeschool students in Emmett, students were able to engage 
with classical music at a performance centered around the educational 
state standards for music history. Collaborating with Boise 
Contemporary Theater brought to life composers, instruments, and 
musical concepts, which won overwhelmingly positive feedback from 
students. Teachers were also appreciative that the concerts were able, 
thanks to grant funding, to offer accommodations for students who face 
accessibility hurdles to experiencing live orchestra music in an 
inclusive environment.
    Another orchestra making intentional strides to engage underserved 
students is the Palm Beach Symphony, which is utilizing its Challenge 
America grant to partner with the Palm Beach County School District for 
a residency program that brings symphony musicians to Title I schools. 
The teaching artists help students with technique, tone, posture, 
proper instrument position, and the intricacies of reading and 
interpreting music in small group settings, working toward a 
culminating event of a large group ensemble rehearsal alongside 
symphony musicians. Schools are selected after consulting with teachers 
and the School District of Palm Beach County's K-12 Arts Education 
Program Planner in the Department of Teaching and Learning, who 
oversees all music activities in the public schools. The symphony is 
intentional about maintaining an enduring and continuous relationship 
with teachers, schools, and students, and it is especially impactful 
for the students when they attend Palm Beach Symphony concerts as 
guests and see their coaches perform on stage.
    Yet another Challenge America grantee that is focusing its efforts 
on young audiences and learners is the Kamuela Philharmonic, which 
hosted two Children's Concerts in Kamuela, HI attended by approximately 
650 students, accompanied by teachers and chaperones. The enthusiastic 
response from the students underscored the impact of the orchestral 
experience on their musical education and appreciation, with students 
coming from seven public schools from around the island and a strong 
turnout from the Waimea/Waikoloa areas. In addition to school groups, 
13 individuals, homeschoolers, and families attended the concerts. The 
concerts allowed musicians to creatively demonstrate their orchestral 
instruments and the experience was enhanced with verbal narrations, 
American Sign Language interpretation, and captivating illustrations on 
the screen, providing a multi-sensory journey through the musical 
narrative. In addition, students were inspired by the performance of 
12-year-old violinist Yunju Cho, one of this season's Youth Concerto 
Competition winners.
    While much orchestral education programming focuses on young 
learners in elementary and secondary school, older students and adults 
also benefit from programming specifically curated for them. The 
Chicago Sinfonietta's Grants for Arts Projects FY24 award helped 
support a sold-out, free to the public orchestral concert and series of 
educational opportunities at the historically Black Spelman College in 
Atlanta, GA--an extension of the community work done in Chicago. The 
concert featured a performance of music by Black, woman, and living 
composers, an integral part of Sinfonietta's mission and especially 
relevant to the student body. In fact, surrounding events within the 
Sinfonietta tour offered several connection and enrichment engagements 
that highlighted the importance of diversity in the symphonic world, 
including lecture/demonstrations and master classes with Sinfonietta 
musicians, and a special pre-concert panel discussion for Spelman 
students.
    Featuring the work of historically underrepresented voices is a 
growing focus for many American orchestras, and the Oregon Symphony's 
2023-24 season provides a platform for women and people of color 
appearing as guest soloists, conductors, or composers on nearly every 
program. An FY24 NEA grant is supporting two concerts highlighting 
composers of color. The first features two Black composers whose music 
directly explores themes of racism and resilience: Darker America by 
William Grant Still, which fuses classical, jazz, and spiritual 
elements to depict the struggle of Black Americans, and Remnants by 
contemporary composer James B. Wilson, which utilizes spoken word 
poetry to address the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests. The second 
concert celebrates the rhythms and dances of Latin America, opening 
with a new commission by Portland-based Venezuelan composer Giancarlo 
Castro (b. 1980) and followed by an orchestral arrangement of Astor 
Piazzolla's Four Seasons of Buenos Aires. This concert will also 
welcome Artist-in-Residence Xavier Foley (b. 1994) on the double bass. 
Both programs will reach an in-person audience of more than 6,000 
people and will be broadcast globally on All Classical Radio, 
disrupting usual perceptions of classical music by utilizing orchestral 
music to illuminate the pressing issues of our time.
    The Louisiana Philharmonic Orchestra (LPO) serves as a culture 
bearer honoring monumental figures and telling stories of Louisiana 
through music. With an FY24 grant from the NEA, the LPO honored New 
Orleans icons Edgar ``Dooky'' Chase II and Leah Chase for their 
significant contributions to the city through their civic activism, 
musical influence, and culinary expertise. An ode to jazz in the art 
form's birthplace, the concert was a nostalgic celebration of the Dooky 
Chase Orchestra's 75th anniversary of their final performance ended 
with George Gershwin's 100-year-old timeless sensation, Rhapsody in 
Blue. Featured on the program were vocalist Chase Kamata--Mr. and Mrs. 
Chase's granddaughter--and the Marcus Roberts Trio. Audiences were 
immersed in the Chase family history with a pre-concert lecture 
featuring maestro Thomas Wilkins and a program book with their written 
legacy and archival photographs. The LPO values the various elements 
that thread New Orleans' cultural tapestry and aims to represent these 
elements in their programming and community initiatives throughout the 
season.
    Over the years, NEA support has empowered the Detroit Symphony 
Orchestra to make innovative programs come to life. In commissioning 
works by living composers, the orchestra especially seeks to showcase 
voices that may have been historically underrepresented. An FY24 Grants 
for Arts Projects award is supporting DSO's April performance of a new 
co-commissioned work for the pipa by composer Du Yun in a collaboration 
with the Philadelphia Orchestra and Carnegie Hall. Du Yun was an early 
recipient of the DSO's own Elaine Lebenbom Award for women composers 
and so the orchestra is thrilled to welcome the work of an honoree to 
the Orchestra Hall stage. One of the DSO's proudest achievements is the 
ability to share performances far beyond the in-person audience. This 
program will be broadcast live on Detroit radio station 90.9 FM WRCJ, 
and online in HD video through the DSO's free Live from Orchestra Hall 
program.
    Focusing on an enhanced local community experience is the 
Louisville Orchestra, which will utilize its NEA award to support the 
Creators Corps Program. The Creators Corps seeks artists that are 
passionate about forging relationships with community organizations to 
advance music's role in civic life, care deeply about education, and 
are interested in being ``artist-leaders'' for both the orchestra and 
the community more broadly. The unique experience of living in 
Louisville and working as part of the orchestra's staff for a year 
deeply informs and inspires the compositions the composers write, 
allowing for a level of specificity and customization for the orchestra 
and community. In addition, composers will work on projects that bring 
them into regular meetings or sessions with community members, 
students, and teachers. In becoming a Louisvillian, the investment in 
community and partnerships built over that time results in ties that 
are indispensable to the orchestra and community for years afterward.
    Finally, the Toledo Alliance for the Performing Arts received an 
FY24 grant which assisted in a commissioning and performance project 
featuring a new set of Symphonic movements by nine members of the 
composers' collective ADJbective New Music. The Toledo Symphony 
performed music inspired by the planets of the solar system in 
celebration of the anticipated total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. 
This project was an opportunity to partner with the University of 
Toledo Department of Physics and Astronomy and KV265, a nonprofit 
organization dedicated to communicating science through 
multidisciplinary artistic projects. As a part of TAPA's ongoing 
partnership with Imagination Station, Dr. Salgado from KV265 and 
composers from ADJbective New Music appeared as part of the Total 
Eclipse Lecture Series at Imagination Station's KeyBank Discovery 
Theater in the weeks leading up to the Toledo Symphony's performances. 
The first of these free Community Conversations was a lecture on 
exoplanets with solar system ambassador Jim Ottaviani and the composers 
of Jupiter and Pluto. Dr. Salgado shared how his work with NASA 
inspired the creation of his extraordinary videos that accompany 
existing and new orchestral works.
    These orchestral projects are a small sampling of the thousands of 
thoughtful initiatives and ongoing programs orchestras undertake year-
round in a variety of settings. Federal support is uniquely impactful 
and invaluable in leveraging additional forms of support. Just as the 
arts ecosystem in our country comprises countless partners all striving 
to meet people where they are, the funding ecosystem is similarly 
complex and relies on each element to provide as robust a level of 
support as possible. Thank you for this opportunity to share how the 
National Endowment for the Arts supports orchestras' engagement with 
their communities. These grants, and many others throughout the country 
disbursed via the agency's state and regional partnerships, make a 
tremendous difference by helping orchestras provide employment to 
musicians and staff while fulfilling their core purpose of educating 
and serving. We applaud the NEA's consistent leadership in promoting 
public engagement with all forms of art and for its responsiveness to 
both present and future concerns for the sector. With Congressional 
support for an annual appropriation of at least $211 million for the 
National Endowment for the Arts in FY2025, more communities throughout 
our Nation will be able to experience the life-changing and affirming 
benefits of the arts.
    The League of American Orchestras champions the vitality of music 
and the orchestral experience, supports the orchestra community, and 
leads change boldly. The only national organization dedicated to 
orchestras and their communities, the League supports the field through 
advocacy, research, convenings, leadership development, artistic 
programs, and grants. Founded in 1942 and chartered by Congress in 
1962, the League includes nearly 25,000 musicians, conductors, 
orchestra staff, board members, volunteers, and business partners 
working within our membership of 1600 world-renowned orchestras, 
community groups, summer festivals, student and youth ensembles, 
conservatories and libraries, businesses serving orchestras, and 
individuals who love symphonic music.

    [This statement was submitted by Simon Woods, President and CEO.]
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    Prepared Statement of Medical Students for a Sustainable Future
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide written testimony to 
highlight the funding priorities of Medical Students for a Sustainable 
Future within the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and/or 
Department of Interior for fiscal year 2025 (FY25). Medical Students 
for a Sustainable Future is a national organization comprised of 
medical students who are devoted to a greener, more sustainable planet 
for our future patients. We urge the Committee to support $12 billion 
in funding for the Environmental Protection Agency.
    While the Nation has made great progress in cleaning up air 
pollution thanks to the Clean Air Act, air pollution continues to 
threaten health across the country. Exposure to pollution like 
particulate matter, ozone, nitrogen oxides and sulfur dioxides can 
trigger asthma attacks, worsen lung conditions, lead to developmental 
and reproductive harm and even cause premature death. Climate change is 
also a health emergency. Communities across the country are 
experiencing adverse health and mental health impacts due to changing 
climate conditions. But climate change is also a health opportunity. We 
can avoid worsening of some of the catastrophic impacts we're seeing 
now while also delivering immediate health benefits. EPA's work to 
protect public health from pollution and climate change is imperative 
and deserves robust, dedicated funding.
    EPA is also responsible for administering funds to States, 
localities, Tribes and communities for improving air quality and 
building resilience. Funding in the Inflation Reduction Act is leading 
to improvements across the country and Medical Students for a 
Sustainable Future supports its continued implementation. But that 
funding does not replace the need for robust, predictable funding of 
the agency's core programmatic work. Medical Students for a Sustainable 
Future would like to highlight a few key areas that are need of strong 
appropriations:
    Provide $915.5 million for EPA's Clean Air program. Robust funding 
for EPA's clean air work is necessary to meet the agency's 
responsibility under the Clean Air Act to protect health from air 
pollution. This funding allows EPA to assist States, localities and 
Tribes with meeting Federal clean air standards by providing technical 
assistance, resources and expertise on how to clean up the sectors that 
contribute to air quality challenges. Please provide $694.6 million for 
Environmental Programs and Management and $220.9 million for Science 
and Technology.
    Provide $500 million for State and Local Air Quality Monitoring 
Grants and $57.4 million for Tribal Air Quality Monitoring Grants. 
State, local and Tribal air agencies receive grants from EPA to help 
maintain their air monitoring networks. Air agencies are operating 
under constrained budgets, impairing their ability to adequately 
maintain and improve air monitors. This funding is crucial to help 
inform the public about air quality risks to their health and in 
identifying areas that are most in need of pollution cleanup.
    Provide at least $369.1 million for environmental justice efforts. 
Far too many communities are still waiting on the promise of clean air. 
Targeted funding dedicated to cleaning the air in disadvantaged 
communities and to advance the protection of those overburdened by air 
pollution is necessary to provide clean air for all. As medical 
students, we see the effects of air pollution firsthand, and we request 
these changes in the name of our future patients.
    Provide $150 million for the Diesel Emissions Reduction Act and 
Support the Clean School Bus Program. The Diesel Emissions Reduction 
(DERA) Grant program continues to be a cost-effective program that 
enjoys bipartisan support. According to EPA's 2022 report to Congress, 
the health benefits of diesel emissions reduction projects are cost-
effective, with monetized health benefits estimated to exceed Federal 
funding by a factor of 10 to 1. But there are still millions of dirty 
diesel engines that are polluting communities--particularly low-income 
areas and communities of color. We also urge the Committee to support 
the popular Clean School Bus Program. The program has already led to 
the replacement of dirty diesel school buses with cleaner zero-emission 
versions and the Organization supports even greater adoption of zero-
emission school buses.
    Please provide $100 million for the Office of Air and Radiation/
Indoor Environments Division and $10 million to EPA's Office of 
Children's Health Protection. Exposure to indoor environmental 
pollution can decrease attendance, negatively impact test scores and 
worsen asthma symptoms or other health impacts. A 2020 GAO report found 
that 41% of school districts were in need of HVAC repairs in at least 
half of their schools. Educators and school personnel need education, 
training and resources to implement effective prevention measures. 
Additionally, the Office of Children's Health Protection plays a 
critical role in researching children's risks and exposures in school 
and childcare facilities.
    Please provide $15 million for wildfire smoke preparedness. 
Wildfire smoke is an urgent and increasing threat to public health, and 
it is not confined to western areas. In 2023, wildfires in Canada and 
the Northeast set off unprecedented air quality alerts down the East 
Coast, increasing emergency department visits for asthma-related 
conditions. EPA plays a vital role in forecasting and communicating the 
impacts of wildfire smoke.
    Oppose all policy riders. Lastly, Medical Students for a 
Sustainable Future strongly opposes the inclusion of policy riders that 
would weaken clean air protections, particularly those that would 
undermine the Clean Air Act. We urge the Committee to reject policy 
riders in appropriations bills.
    Investments in EPA programs are critical to protecting public 
health. On behalf of Medical Students for a Sustainable Future, I thank 
you for your consideration of these requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Aroub Yousuf, Advocacy Co-Chair, 
Medical Students for a Sustainable Future.]
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         Prepared Statement of the Metlakatla Indian Community
Recommendations:

    1. Support increased overall funding for the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs (BIA), including Tribal Hatcheries, the U.S. Canada Pacific 
Salmon Treaty, Tribal Court Assistance, Tribal Climate Resilience, 
Native Language Resilience, and Dams.

    2. Provide full funding and advance appropriations for the Indian 
Health Service (IHS).

    3. Ensure mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and 
section 105(l) leases.

    4. Amend the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act 
(ISDEAA) to clarify CSC provisions.

    5. Fund critical infrastructure investments for the IHS.

    6. Increase funding and extend self-governance to the Special 
Diabetes Program for Indians.

    7. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country.

    Introduction. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share 
our FY 2025 funding priorities. The Metlakatla Indian Community is 
located on the Annette Islands Reserve in southeast Alaska, a land base 
of 87,000 acres which includes significant fish and forestry resources. 
At our Annette Island Service Unit, we provide primary health services 
through funding from the IHS as a co-signer to the Alaska Tribal Health 
Compact under the ISDEAA.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
Indian Country in recent years via the CARES Act, American Rescue Plan 
Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and Inflation Reduction Act. The 
direct funding model and successful implementation of these laws prove 
that when Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We 
would also like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to 
protect Indian Country from cuts during the FY 2024 appropriations 
process. Furthermore, we urge you to remember that Congress' trust and 
treaty responsibilities to provide for the health and wellbeing of 
Tribal Nations exist irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. 
It is imperative that this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts 
necessary to fulfill its obligations. To that end, we offer the 
following recommendations for your consideration for FY 2025 
appropriations for the IHS and BIA.
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    Operation of Indian Programs. In FY 2025, we recommend a 
substantial increase for the Operation of Indian Programs at BIA. This 
base funding is critical in the functioning of our government and our 
survival as a Tribal Nation. They provide for social services, law 
enforcement, court services, child care services, public health and 
safety, and other essential government functions. We have repeatedly 
called on Congress to fulfill its trust and treaty obligations by 
adequately funding these accounts. Unfortunately, year after year, we 
experience large funding shortfalls across all BIA-funded programs, 
causing government services in our community to constantly depend on an 
inconsistent patchwork of Federal funding. For example, we have been 
forced to choose between meeting water quality standards or providing 
scholarships to our students.
    In some cases, these shortfalls force us to cut services 
altogether. Some programs that have been impacted are real estate, 
higher education, Tribal scholarships, social services, and 
firefighting. Despite significant supplemental appropriations, these 
programs remain critically underfunded. We support the Tribal/Interior 
Budget Council (TIBC)\1\ request to fund Tribal Priority Allocations 
and similar accounts at $455 million in FY 2025. We urge you to support 
this full funding amount as you craft your FY 2025 appropriations bill.
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    Additionally, we request that BIA appropriations be funded on an 
advance appropriations cycle. As exemplified by the FY 2024 
appropriations process, it has sadly become the norm for Congress to 
rely on multiple continuing resolutions before final bills are enacted. 
This creates uncertainty that delays the distribution of our full 
yearly amount by several months or more. This makes it impossible for 
us to plan and manage our annual budgets-we are not able to plan our 
finances even weeks ahead due to the uncertainty. Indian Country should 
not be held hostage by unrelated political disputes in Washington, D.C. 
Full advance appropriations for the BIA would better honor Congress' 
trust and treaty responsibility to Tribes, stabilize Tribal 
governments, reduce dependence on uncertain grant funding, and improve 
overall practices.
    Tribal Hatcheries. We deeply appreciate the increase for the Fish, 
Wildlife, and Parks sub-activity within the BIA Trust-Natural Resources 
Management budget in FY 2023 and are asking the subcommittee to resume 
increases in funding levels for FY 2025. We support TIBC's proposal of 
$18 million for support for associated hatching, rearing, and stocking 
programs.
    U.S./Canada Pacific Salmon Treaty. The Pacific Salmon Treaty was 
negotiated between the U.S. and Canada in 1985 to prevent overfishing 
and provide optimal production and fair sharing of the salmon harvest. 
In the Department of Interior's budget, this funding is appropriated 
through the BIA Trust-Natural Resources Rights Protection 
Implementation sub-activity and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's 
Pacific Marine Fisheries Commission. We thank you for the 
subcommittee's continued support for this program in FY 2024, and 
encourage further investments to in FY 2025. We are specifically in 
need of a tagging trailer ($1 million) to monitor and manage the salmon 
populations. The Biden Administration has requested $6.8 million for 
this activity in FY 2025.
    Tribal Court Assistance for Tribes Subject to PL 83-280. We deeply 
appreciate the much-needed support for Tribes who are affected by 
Public Law 83-280. We are grateful for the recent increases directed to 
the BIA Public Safety and Justice Law Enforcement-Tribal Justice 
Support program. We fully support the TIBC's ask of $45.7 million for 
this program and ask that the subcommittee continue to include PL 280-
specific funding in FY 2025.
    Increased Funding to Address the Impacts of Climate Change. Like 
many Tribal communities, we continue to be impacted by the growing 
challenge of climate change. We thank the Committee for the $750,000 
increase for Tribal Climate Resilience in FY 2024 appropriations, but 
request significantly more investment in this account. We need funds to 
implement our Climate Resilience plans. We fully support the $4.8 
billion requested by the TIBC.
    Support Sustained Funding for Native Language Programs. Our 
community is currently engaged in an effort to revitalize and sustain 
our Tsimshian language. We've received a 1-year amount of $300,000 to 
support our programs, but this funding is not guaranteed year-after-
year. While we are extremely grateful for your investment and support, 
it is unreasonable to expect Tribes to make meaningful progress towards 
revitalizing a language in just 1 year. We ask the subcommittee to 
initiate a direct, sustained funding model for Native languages.
    Increase Funding to Support Raising the Chester Lake Dam. Our sole 
source of municipal water for all our community needs is the Chester 
Lake Reservoir, maintained by a dam constructed in 1985. Our changing 
climate and environmental conditions have forced us to reevaluate our 
dam. It has been observed that significant rain events can cause the 
reservoir to overtop. This results in a loss of valuable water supply, 
especially in the drought conditions we are currently experiencing. We 
need to raise the damn an additional 10-20 feet to increase our 
resiliency and self-sufficiency. We have secured partial funding 
through the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Hazard Mitigations 
Assistance and Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities 
grants; however, more is needed. We urge the subcommittee to allocate 
more funding to these programs and fully fund the BIA's Safety of Dams 
and Dam Maintenance accounts at $87.6 million.
                         indian health service
    Support for Full, Mandatory Funding for the IHS: The IHS and its 
Tribal partners under the ISDEAA strive to provide Tribal people with 
access to high quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with 
the Federal Government's trust and treaty obligations. However, chronic 
underfunding of the Indian health system has had detrimental impacts on 
our communities. Alaska Natives are disproportionately impacted by 
obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, substance-use disorder and 
other largely preventable conditions. We therefore urge the 
subcommittee to work towards full and mandatory funding for the IHS, in 
line with the IHS Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup. To further these 
goals, we support the Workgroup's calculated need of $54 billion for 
full funding in FY 2025.
    Reclassifying the IHS budget as mandatory spending not only 
reflects the nature of the trust and treaty obligations to Tribal 
Nations, but also will allow IHS to be funded at a level that is 
necessary for providing health care to American Indians and Alaska 
Natives. This proposal must be developed in partnership with Tribal 
Nations. We stand ready to work with you and IHS to enact mandatory 
appropriations in FY 2025 so the Indian health system is finally 
provided adequate funding.
    Continued Support for Advance Appropriations: If full, mandatory 
appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we continue to support 
IHS advance appropriations in the short term. This year's tumultuous 
appropriations cycle demonstrates why advance appropriations are 
critical-clinical services remained continuous throughout the volatile 
political process. We urge the subcommittee to extend advance 
appropriations to all IHS accounts, including Electronic Health 
Records, Health Care Facilities Construction, and Sanitation Facilities 
Construction, for FY 2026.
    Fully fund critical infrastructure investments: We were 
disappointed to see that this subcommittee approved cuts to Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 2024. The Indian health 
system's infrastructure is among the oldest and most dilapidated in the 
country. Therefore, we request that this subcommittee restore and 
fully-fund these accounts. To implement interoperable Electronic Health 
Records, $801 million is needed for FY 2025. As you are aware, this 
investment is especially critical as the Veterans' Administration and 
Department of Defense move to modernize their systems. It is also 
critical that Congress make significant investments in Health Care 
Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities Construction. IHS and 
Tribal facilities are severely outdated and often unsafe. Therefore, 
consistent with the Workgroup's request, we recommend $5 billion total 
for IHS facilities accounts.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: If Congress is not able to enact full mandatory funding for 
IHS this year, we continue to support mandatory funding for Contract 
Support Costs (CSC) and 105(l) leases at both IHS and BIA. We 
appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that CSC and 
105(l) lease costs are fully funded by including an indefinite 
discretionary appropriation in recent years for both of these accounts. 
However, changing these accounts to mandatory appropriations in FY 2025 
would bring the appropriations process into line with the clear legal 
requirements of the authorizing statute. CSC and 105(l) lease funds are 
already an entitlement under substantive law for the ISDEAA to function 
as intended by Congress. It is contradictory and problematic to 
appropriate funding for these accounts on a discretionary basis. A 
simple amendment to an appropriations statute could solve this 
challenge.
    Amend ISDEAA to Clarify CSC provisions: We also request that the 
committee consider amending the ISDEAA to clarify that when agency 
funding paid to a Tribe for program operations is insufficient for 
contract and compact administration, CSC will remain available to cover 
the difference. In the recent court decision Cook Inlet Tribal Council, 
Inc. v. Dotomain,\2\ a Federal appeals court held that costs for 
activities normally carried out by IHS are ineligible for payment as 
CSC-even if IHS transfers insufficient, or even no, funding for these 
activities in the Secretarial amount. Under this new ruling, if 
facility costs are higher for a Tribe than for IHS, the Tribe is forced 
to cover the difference by diverting scarce program dollars. Recently, 
this serious misinterpretation of the ISDEAA that has been applied to 
one Tribal organization resulting in a 90% reduction of CSC 
reimbursement threatens Tribal self-governance and self-determination. 
Therefore, we call upon Congress to provide a legislative fix to 
clarify the intent of Congress for this matter, and ensure consistency 
with precedent.
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    \2\ Cook Inlet Tribal Council, Inc. v. Dotomain, 10 F.4th 892 (D.C. 
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    Extend Self-Governance Funding Options to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (SDPI) and increase funding to $250 million/year. 
SDPI's success rests in the flexibility of its program structure that 
allows for the incorporation of culture and local needs into its 
services. Congress should authorize SDPI participants the option of 
receiving their Federal funds through either a grant (as currently 
used) or self-governance funding mechanisms under ISDEAA. While we 
appreciate the increase provided in FY 2024 appropriations, SDPI 
funding has not increased according to its success level. We recommend 
permanent reauthorization for SDPI at a minimum of $250 million per 
year with annual adjustments for inflation.
                  reduce dependence on federal grants
    In addition to the critical funding needs that are outlined above, 
we also support moving away from competitive grants for Federal funding 
mechanisms. Grants unfairly pit Tribes against each other for resources 
we are all entitled to. The Federal trust responsibility does not 
require that we jump through a myriad of hoops and onerous applications 
to see that services are provided to our citizens. Too often, Tribes 
are under-resourced to apply for Federal grants and comply with their 
reporting requirements. Our staff must divert time to apply and report, 
thereby diluting the usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request 
wide-spread, formula-based funding across all programs. Tribes must 
also be granted the flexibility needed to respond to the specific needs 
of their own communities, not those prescribed by Federal grants. This 
also means appropriating enough resources so funds are provided in 
meaningful amounts across all Tribes. We join other Tribal leaders in 
calling for broad based funding for Indian Country.

    [This statement was submitted by Albert Smith, Mayor of the 
Metlakatla Indian Community.]
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Prepared Statement of National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and 
                                Medicine
                              introduction
    Members of the Senate Committee on Appropriations subcommittee on 
Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies, my name is Abigail Echo-
Hawk, and I am an enrolled citizen of the Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma, 
currently living in an urban Indian community in Seattle, Washington. I 
am the Executive Vice President of the Seattle Indian Health Board 
(SIHB) and Director of the Urban Indian Health Institute (UIHI), an 
Indian Health Service (IHS) designated Tribal Epidemiology Center 
(TEC), where I oversee our policy, research, data, and evaluation 
initiatives. I have a continuous record of accomplishment as a research 
and policy professional, specializing in Tribal government and urban 
Indian relations, and sit on multiple boards and advisory committees as 
the cultural and Tribal government expert and outreach specialist. I 
have also successfully led teams of Native and non-Native public health 
professionals to develop health and policy interventions with Tribal 
communities across the United States. I have also provided cultural 
expertise on working with rural and urban Native American communities 
for many agencies. I am pleased to submit my testimony today, including 
a request of $474.4 million for the Hospitals and Clinics: TEC line 
item to improve culturally attuned research, data, and evaluation 
services for the over 9 million American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/
AN) people in our Nation.
       leverage congressional authority to increase health equity
    As a member of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and 
Medicine (NASEM) Standing Committee on the Review of Federal Policies 
that Contribute to Racial and Ethnic Health Inequities, I urge you to 
adopt the recommendations in NASEM's Federal Policy to Advance Racial, 
Ethnic, and Tribal Health Equity, published in 2023. One of the 
recommendations outlined in the report is for the Federal Government to 
raise the prominence of agencies with jurisdiction over health equity 
for AI/AN communities. The report specifically calls for three key 
Congressional and Presidential actions: 1) Raise the level of the IHS 
Director to that of an Assistant Secretary, 2) Authorize mandatory 
funding for IHS, as proposed in the President's Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 
budget, and 3) Re-establish an Indian Affairs Committee in the House of 
Representatives.\1\ In addition to these structural reforms, I ask that 
you also leverage your appropriation authority to adequately resource 
IHS. In the recently enacted FY 2024 appropriations, IHS received $6.96 
billion, a 0.05% increase from FY 2023 enacted levels, while urban 
Indian organizations (UIO) and Tribal Epidemiology Centers (TECs) 
received the same level of funding as in FY 2023 at just $90.42 million 
and $24.4 million, respectively. Funding IHS at need would mean yearly 
appropriations of $53.8 billion for IHS, including $977.4 million for 
UIOs and $474.4 million for TECs.
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    \1\ National Academies for Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 
(2023). Federal Policy to Advance Racial, Ethnic, and Tribal Health 
Equity. Retrieved from: https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/
26834/federal-policy-to-advance-racial-ethnic-and-tribal-health-equity
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    The urgency of these requests come with the recent news the 
estimated life expectancy for AI/AN people has dropped from 71.8 years 
to 62.5 years during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic.\2\ This near-
decade loss in life expectancy means that AI/AN people now have the 
same life expectancy as the general U.S. population in 1944.\3\ It is 
imperative that Congress elevate AI/AN issues and priorities in the 
executive and legislative branches by addressing decades of chronic 
underfunding through investment in our public health and healthcare 
services offered by the Indian healthcare system.
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    \2\ Goldman N, Andrasfay T. Life Expectancy Loss among Native 
Americans During the COVID-19 Pandemic. (2022). Retrieved from: https:/
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8936100/
    \3\ National Center for Health Statistics. (2022). Life Expectancy 
in the U.S. Dropped for the Second Year in a Row in 2021. Retrieved 
from: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/
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                addressing violence against ai/an people
    UIHI continues to be a leader on the Missing and Murdered 
Indigenous Women and People (MMIWP) crisis through our groundbreaking 
MMIWP reports \4\ highlighting the depth of the crisis, identifying 
gaps in data collection methods and practices, and encouraging 
investment in cultural frameworks for gender-based violence programs. 
The collective efforts of community members, researchers, and 
legislative partners using our reports led to historic passage of Not 
Invisible Act (NIA) and Savanna's Act.
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    \4\ Urban Indian Health Institute. (November 14, 2018). Missing and 
Murdered Indigenous Women & Girls. https://www.uihi.org/resources/
missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-girls/; Urban Indian Health 
Institute. (September 2020). Sacred: Womxn of Resilience. www.uihi.org/
download/supporting-the-sacred-womxn-of-resilience/
?wpdmdl=18261&refresh=6217b40a4ce3e1645720586; Urban Indian Health 
Institute. (February 17, 2022). Service as Ceremony: A Journey Toward 
Healing. www.uihi.org/download/service-as-ceremony-a-journey-toward-
healing/?wpdmdl=19563&refresh=621d39d2458ae1646082514XX; Urban Indian 
Health Institute (February 17, 2022). Building the Sacred. 
www.uihi.org/download/building-the-sacred-an-indigenous-evaluation-
framework-for-programs-serving-native-survivors-of-violence/
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    In November 2023, the Not One More: Findings and Recommendations of 
the Not Invisible Act \5\ was released again sparking the contention 
that Federal policies, programs, and services are underserving our 
community thus perpetuating the violence against AI/AN people. In March 
2024, the Department of Justice and Department of Interior released 
their response to the NIA report, citing existing resources and efforts 
to address concerns raised in the report. It is clear from this 
underwhelming response that the legislative intent of NIA and Savanna's 
Act has not been upheld, which was also illustrated in a 2023 GOA 
report, and we urge members on the subcommittee to champion 
revolutionary change within the IHS to combat the high rates of 
violence experienced by our community members. As an MMIWP advocate, I 
urge the investment in IHS to expand gender-based violence services and 
violence prevention programming, and investment in clinics to establish 
Sexual Assault Nure Examinations (SANE), and primary care and 
behavioral health resources support victims in the hand of trusted 
providers.
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    \5\ Not Invisible Act Commission. (November 2023). Not One More: 
Findings & Recommendations of the Not Invisible Act Commission. 
Retrieved from: https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/
34%20NIAC%20Final%20Report_version%2011.1.23_FINAL.pdf
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    As co-chair of the Washington State MMMIWP taskforce, I co-authored 
legislation creating the Nation's first Missing Indigenous Person Alert 
(MIPA) system, referred to as the Red Alert, in Washington State. The 
following year, I provided consultation to individuals in California 
for the creation of the Feather Alert. After decades of education, 
research, and advocacy championed by Indian County, the Federal 
Communications Commission (FCC) announced the launch of an Emergency 
Management System (EMS) for Indigenous populations in March 2024. 
However, the FCC has not designated a specific code for AI/AN 
populations. In response, I submitted recommendations to the FCC urging 
them to designate a code that specifically identifies the system for 
AI/AN populations. Without an identifiable name, there will be a gap in 
the understanding and use of the system to support missing cases and 
intervene during human trafficking involving an AI/AN person. The FCC's 
proposal is evidence that Federal action can be monumental and IHS must 
follow this example through historic investments in MMIWP.
                ongoing impacts of the covid-19 pandemic
    We are among the 12 TECs located nationwide who have worked 
diligently to fill the gaps left by inadequate IHS funding. However, we 
are the only TEC with a national purview to address the public health 
needs of the urban Indian population which comprises more that 70% of 
the overall AI/AN population. For example, in 2023 after the Federal 
Public Health Emergency expired, UIHI sent all 41 IHS-designated UIOs 
COVID-19 resources which included culturally specific pediatric 
vaccination schedules, hand washing campaign materials, COVID-19 fact 
sheets, RSV fact sheets, COVID-19 treatment maps, and educational 
posters. TECs, while chronically underfunded, are continuing to do our 
part to address public health needs in our communities.
    The Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023 impacted COVID-19 funding 
that was sent to IHS, ultimately rescinding $419 million that were 
meant to support testing, treatment, and vaccinations as well as the 
purchase of supplies and the expansion and sustainment of the public 
health workforce. That is why it is painful to know that programs, 
vaccines, research, and public health workforce focused on COVID-19 
could have been significantly funded if there had been oversight by an 
Indian Affairs Committee to hold IHS accountable for obligating and 
distributing these funds appropriately.
            improve maternal and child health (mch) outcomes
    In 2022, the Secretary of Health and Human Services Advisory 
Committee on Infant and Maternal Mortality (ACIMM) released recommended 
actions to improve the health and safety of AI/AN mothers and 
infants.\6\ These recommendations included improvements to IHS 
including evaluation and funding to improve healthy perinatal outcomes, 
perinatal workforce expansion and diversification, and Federal 
strategies to address social determinants of health. Before these 
actions are implemented, it is necessary to improve the data reported 
by IHS to more accurately capture the MCH health crisis. It is critical 
for IHS to create a strategy for improving their measurements, 
evaluation and analysis, and reporting of maternal health collected. 
IHS will need to work in close partnership with the CDC who continues 
to inappropriately report on data on AI/AN maternal death. For example, 
in 2023 the National Center for Health Statistics, a unit of the CDC, 
published a report on 2021 maternal deaths nationwide but did not 
include data on AI/AN birthing people citing a lack of ``statistically 
significant data.'' \7\ As the director of a TEC, and a data scientist, 
I consider this to be inadequate and lazy epidemiology that results in 
the invisibility of the maternal death crisis in Native communities. 
The CDC should have used small populations methodologies to ensure AI/
AN data was included. It is essential that IHS ensures that CDC is 
sharing appropriate data with them as most AI/AN babies are delivered 
in non-IHS facilities but often receive care in IHS systems of care 
after birth. IHS must begin to implement best practices for collecting 
data on AI/AN and improve their reporting system to capture trends more 
accurately on MCH.
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    \6\ Advisory Committee on Infant and Maternal Mortality. (2022). 
Making Amends: Recommended Strategies and Actions to Improve the Health 
and Safety of American Indian and Alaska Native Mothers and Infants. 
Retrieved from: https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/advisory-
committees/infant-mortality/birth-outcomes-AI-AN-mothers-infants.pdf
    \7\ Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for 
Health Statistics. (2023). Maternal Mortality Rates in the United 
States, 2021. Retrieved from: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/
maternal-mortality/2021/maternal-mortality-rates-2021.pdf
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    ACIMM's recommendations are acutely important today given that the 
COVID-19 pandemic has exacerbated issues of gender-based violence, 
behavioral health, and suicide among AI/AN communities.\8\ These are 
all issues that severely impact the quality of life for AI/AN women and 
inform perinatal health outcomes. Research has shown that AI/AN 
pregnant and post-partum people are the highest risk of drug related 
and suicide death.\9\ Nationwide, the COVID-19 pandemic intensified 
intimate partner violence.\10\ It is a critical time for this committee 
to strengthen investments in gender-based violence and behavioral 
health prevention and intervention services across IHS. Without 
additional funding and Federal collaborations with IHS, it will 
struggle to provide wrap around services for AI/AN pregnant and 
parenting people. We ask for your support to address the far-reaching 
consequences of the pandemic and its impacts on MCH outcomes through 
the modernization of IHS's data system.
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    \8\ Ruiz A, Luebke J, Moore K, Vann AD, Gonzalez M Jr, Ochoa-
Nordstrum B, Barbon R, Gondwe K, Mkandawire-Valhmu L. The impact of the 
COVID-19 pandemic on help-seeking behaviours of Indigenous and Black 
women experiencing intimate partner violence in the United States. 
(2022). J Adv Nurs. 2022 Dec 19 : 10.1111/jan.15528.Retrieved from: 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9878234/; Haskins C, 
Noonan C, MacLehose R, Buchwald D, Manson SM. COVID-19 pandemic effects 
on emotional health and substance use among urban American Indian and 
Alaska Native people. (2023). J Psychosom Res. 2023 Sep; 172: 111424. 
Retrieved from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10290739/; 
Panchal, N., Garfield, R., Cox, C., Artiga, S., Substance Use Issues 
Are Worsening Alongside Access to Care. (2021). Kaiser Family 
Foundation. Retrieved from: https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/substance-
use-issues-are-worsening-alongside-access-to-care
    \9\ Margerison CE, Roberts MH, Gemmill A, Goldman-Mellor S. (2022). 
Pregnancy-Associated Deaths Due to Drugs, Suicide, and Homicide in the 
United States, 2010-2019. Obstet Gynecol. Retrieved from: https://
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8849543/
    \10\ Sutton A, Beech H. (2023). The impact of stay-at-home orders 
on safety and stability for women: A topical review of intimate partner 
violence and intimate femicide in the United States during the initial 
phase of COVID-19. J Fam Violence. Retrieved from: https://
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10041482/
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                  address ihs data practices for tecs
    In March of 2022, the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) 
released a report titled Tribal Epidemiology Centers: HHS Actions 
Needed to Enhance Data Access, which highlighted longstanding and 
pervasive issues experienced by Tribal public health authorities.\11\ 
Two of the GAO recommendations were directed at IHS. Now 2 years later, 
IHS has not addressed these recommendations. I urge this subcommittee 
to hold IHS accountable and ensure the agency develops written guidance 
on how TECs can request IHS data, as well as agency procedures on 
reviewing TEC data requests.
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    \11\ United States Government Accountability Office. (2022). Tribal 
Epidemiology Centers: HHS Actions Needed to Enhance Data Access. GAO-
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    TECs have a unique understanding of the gaps in data practices 
because of our close working relationships with UIOs and Tribal 
Nations. We can inform IHS efforts to improve data reporting and 
quality. UIHI, for example, is the only TEC overseen by a UIO, and has 
a proven track record in urban AI/AN data and research. In 2020, we 
published Best Practices for American Indian and Alaska Native Data 
Collection to address incomplete, inaccurate, and unreliable data 
collection practices which is currently being used as a guide in local, 
State and Federal efforts nationwide.\12\ In 2021 we published Data 
Genocide of American Indians and Alaska Natives in COVID-19 Data, a 
report card grading collection of racial data during COVID-19 and 
offering recommendations for collecting and reporting data on race and 
ethnicity.\13\ This report has be utilized by States, Tribes and UIO's 
to improve data that is then reported to HHS agencies. In 2023, we 
published Decolonizing Data, a guidebook intended to help understand 
the guiding principles of what it means to achieve data equity and 
uphold Indigenous Data Sovereignty.\14\ IHS can look to these resources 
and work with us to improve data reporting on UIOs and Tribal Nations. 
Together we can ensure that health surveillance data on AI/AN people is 
more accurately captured and utilized.
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    \12\ Urban Indian Health Institute. (2020). Best Practices for 
American Indian and Alaska Native Data Collection. Retrieved from: 
https://www.uihi.org/resources/best-practices-for-american-indian-and-
alaska-native-data-collection/
    \13\ Urban Indian Health Institute. (2021). Data Genocide of 
American Indians and Alaska Natives in COVID-19 Data. Retrieved from: 
https://www.uihi.org/projects/data-genocide-of-american-indians-and-
alaska-natives-in-covid-19-data/
    \14\ Urban Indian Health Institute. (2023). Decolonize Data: 
Accurate Data Tells Accurate Stories. Retrieved from: https://
www.uihi.org/projects/decolonizing-data-toolkit/

    [This statement was submitted by Abigail Echo-Hawk, MA, Director, 
Urban Indian Health Institute.]
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   Prepared Statement of National Association of Abandoned Mine Land 
                                Programs
    My name is Dustin Morin and I serve as Director of the Mining and 
Reclamation Division within Alabama's Department of Labor. I provide 
this statement on behalf of the National Association of Abandoned Mine 
Land Programs (NAAMLP), for which I currently serve as President. 
NAAMLP represents 32 States and Tribes, all of which implement coal 
abandoned mine land reclamation (AML) programs under Title IV of the 
Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act (SMCRA) or state level 
hardrock AML programs or both. My address is 649 Monroe Street, Room 
2218, Montgomery, AL 36131. My phone number is (205) 582--5182. My 
email is Dustin.Morin@labor.alabama.gov.
                   summary of naamlp funding requests
  --$65m for hardrock AML grants to state and Tribes under the Energy 
        Community Revitalization Program (ECRP), which can mostly come 
        from excess claims maintenance fees

  --$135m for the Abandoned Mine Lands Economic Revitalization Program 
        (AMLER)

  --$1.5m for the Watershed Cooperative Agreements Program under SMCRA 
        Title IV

    State and Tribal Hardrock AML Grants--The majority of States and 
many Indian Tribes suffer ongoing impacts of abandoned hardrock and 
other noncoal mines (referred to as ``hardrock AML'' hereafter). 
Hardrock AML damages the safety, environment, and economic vitality of 
nearby communities throughout the Country--it is especially prevalent 
in the West but is a problem in every other region as well. Most States 
and Tribes have very limited, if any, ability to address hardrock AML 
problems due to lack of funding. The States with well-established 
hardrock AML programs struggle to make consistent progress in the 
absence of steady funding.
    The $3 billion funding authorization for hardrock AML grants ($1.5 
billion for States and Tribes) in Section 40704 of the Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) was a very exciting development. 
However, funding has not yet been appropriated on the scale authorized. 
$1.7m for States and $400k for Tribes has been appropriated in each of 
FY 2022, 2023, and 2024 through the ECRP. This is a welcome beginning 
but is not enough to make meaningful progress addressing hardrock AML 
hazards. The total cost to address the National hardrock AML problem is 
estimated to be in the tens of billions of dollars. We urge Congress to 
appropriate an amount of funding more commensurate to the need, at 
least $65m for FY25. We also suggest encouraging Federal agencies with 
responsibility for addressing hardrock AML to expand their partnerships 
with States and Tribes, allowing State and Tribal hardrock AML programs 
to conduct additional projects enabled by Federal agency funding.
    We suggest utilizing excess funding generated by claims maintenance 
fees from mining on public lands for this purpose. We understand that 
between $40-50 million or more is generated by claims maintenance fees 
in excess of what the Bureau of Land Management is provided from these 
funds each year. It would be sensible to put this excess, industry-
generated funding, which otherwise goes to the general treasury, toward 
hardrock AML work. We understand this idea has the support of the 
National Mining Association and the Biden Administration.\1\
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Laws, Regulations, and Permitting (2023). Recommendations to Improve 
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    While awaiting additional funding, the nascent IIJA-authorized 
hardrock AML State and Tribal grants program has been developing very 
well. NAAMLP and our sister organization the Interstate Mining Compact 
Commission (IMCC) have been working closely with DOI's Office of 
Environmental Policy and Compliance (OEPC) and have appreciated its 
willingness to incorporate State and Tribal input. We have convened a 
group of 40+ States and Tribes to provide continuing input to OEPC on 
how the program should work and how funding should be utilized. We are 
also working closely with USGS on development of a national hardrock 
AML inventory, which will eventually provide Congress a nationwide 
picture of the scope of the hardrock AML problem--but this effort will 
take a significant amount of time to complete.
    The new inventory will confirm what we already know--that the need 
to address hardrock AML issues is great. The hardrock AML grants 
program is ready to be fully funded. It is too important to wait for 
the inventory to be complete, or for hardrock mining law reform 
legislation to be agreed upon. The States and Tribes are aware of the 
most harmful sites, and their harm is immediate and ongoing. We are 
prepared to begin delivering the benefits of safe, restored landscapes 
and water resources to our citizens as soon as funding is provided.
    Adequate government funding is just one element of the action 
Congress needs to take. The Appropriations Committee should be aware 
that Good Samaritan legislation is an essential part of a solution to 
the hardrock AML problem. Current law holds States and Tribes liable 
for the full costs of cleaning up water pollution at an AML site they 
have remediated, even if their work made the site better and perfect 
site cleanup was impractical or impossible. Community and conservation 
groups, as well as industry, who are the States' potential ``Good 
Samaritan'' partners in hardrock AML remediation, are threatened by the 
same undeserved liability despite having no connection to the site in 
question. We strongly support The Good Samaritan Remediation of 
Abandoned Hardrock Mines Act of 2023 (S. 2781 & H.R. 7779), a carefully 
tailored ``pilot'' Good Samaritan program. With or without this kind of 
legislation, the hardrock AML program should be fully funded as soon as 
possible--but it should not be forgotten that the programs' great 
potential for restoration of water resources, especially in the West 
where water is so precious, is majorly constrained without common sense 
Good Samaritan liability protections.
    IIJA Coal AML Funding Implementation--The infusion of new coal AML 
funding in the IIJA ushered in a re-invigorated era for coal AML 
programs. We thank Congress for recognizing the critical role AML 
programs play in safety, environmental restoration, and the creation of 
jobs and economic growth. These benefits are felt throughout the 
Country, especially in places like Appalachia that are most affected by 
the energy transition. We also thank Congress for the STREAM Act, which 
ensures the gains enabled by the IIJA for AML water restoration will be 
long-lasting.
    Implementation of IIJA coal AML funding is well underway. States 
and Tribes have been busy designing and coordinating an expanded number 
of AML projects and beginning construction on IIJA-funded AML projects. 
We have also been working with the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation 
and Enforcement (OSMRE) on implementation of the new program.
    The IIJA coal AML program is and will continue to be a great 
success, but OSMRE's handling of the IIJA coal AML program has made 
implementation more difficult than necessary. Congress directed that 
these funds be provided to States and Tribes ``as expeditiously as 
practicable''.\2\ OSMRE is treating the IIJA program as entirely 
separate from the long-standing, well-functioning AML fee-funded 
program, despite the new IIJA funding being for the same purposes as 
AML fee funding with only minor differences in how it can be utilized. 
The result has been slower than necessary roll out of funding, an 
unduly cumbersome and confusing process, and significant diversion of 
limited State and Tribal AML staff time away from the core mission of 
planning and executing AML projects.
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    We appreciate Congressional support encouraging OSMRE to improve 
collaboration with States and Tribes to improve implementation. As a 
result, there has been some recent progress, but there is much 
important work left to do. We request that Congress continue to 
encourage OSMRE to improve implementation of the IIJA coal AML program. 
In particular, OSMRE must be encouraged to do the following:
    Combine Grant Processes for IIJA and AML Fee Funding--OSMRE 
requires that State and Tribal IIJA-funded AML grants and AML fee-
funded grants be applied for in entirely separate applications. This 
effectively doubles the amount of time States and Tribes must spend 
managing Federal grants. It would be much more efficient to have a 
single combined grant application. Tracking the respective use and 
impact of IIJA- and fee-based funding can be accomplished through 
normal accounting controls, as we have done for years
    Constrain New Requirements, Priorities, and Information Gathering--
OSMRE continues to create new requirements for and request new types of 
information of the State and Tribal AML programs. Existing processes 
and available information are already more than adequate to effectively 
manage the AML program and inform OSMRE, Congress, and the Public what 
is being accomplished. This information is available through the 
National coal AML inventory (e-AMLIS), state/Tribe grant applications, 
authorization to proceed requests, annual reports, and websites 
maintained by individual AML programs, NAAMLP, and IMCC. Without 
restraint regarding new requirements and information requests, the 
burden of these administrative activities will outweigh their benefit, 
ultimately detracting from the programs' effectiveness.
    Increase Training Resources--Historically, OSMRE's training program 
has provided state, Tribal, and OSMRE personnel foundational education 
in how AML programs work and the design and management of AML projects. 
Current OSMRE planning for the training program is inadequate to 
accommodate the increase in state, Tribal, and OSMRE personnel as a 
result of expanded IIJA coal AML funding. The IIJA provided OSMRE with 
$339 million to implement the IIJA. To our knowledge, it has no plans 
to spend any of this money on the training program, where it is acutely 
needed. We recommend that Congress increase funding for the NTTP and 
TIPS training programs and encourage OSMRE to do the following: 1) 
increase the number of training courses offered, 2) offer regionally-
focused sections of courses to address regional climatic and ecological 
differences where appropriate, 3) offer compensation to instructors 
where appropriate, rather than continue to rely solely on volunteer 
instructors.
    SMCRA Title IV Coal AML--We encourage Congress to maintain OSMRE 
funding for the agency's role of supporting State and Tribal AML 
programs, for example, technical assistance and applied science. We 
also recommend funding for Watershed Cooperative Agreements be 
maintained. This funding serves an important role in facilitating State 
and local partnerships, helping to leverage outside sources of funding 
and allowing reclamation funding to go further.
    Abandoned Mine Lands Economic Revitalization Program--The States 
and Tribes are proud of what has been accomplished through the 
Abandoned Mine Land Economic Revitalization (AMLER) program (formerly 
known as the ``pilot program''), which looks for creative ways to turn 
AML sites into opportunities for economic development. We request that 
funding for AMLER in the amount of $135 million continue.
    While AMLER has been successful, it has experienced significant 
implementation difficulties. OSMRE's ``vetting'' process has done more 
to hurt than to help. It requires every AMLER project to be reviewed 
and pre-approved sequentially by three levels of OSMRE offices before 
project plans are fully developed. Vetting often amounts to OSMRE 
asserting its own opinions in place of the States and Tribes' more 
locally-informed expertise on economic and community development. 
Substandard communication and opaque evaluation criteria have caused 
delays, uncertainty and devotion of a disproportionate amount of AML 
program staff time to this program. Local businesses and community 
groups that would be AMLER project partners find it difficult to 
navigate the process and are increasingly less interested in 
participating.
    We thank Congress for its efforts to address these implementation 
difficulties. The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2024 directed 
OSMRE to distribute AMLER funding directly to eligible States and 
Tribes within 90 days. This should alleviate many of the problems 
described above and allow the program to operate as originally 
envisioned: State and Tribal AML programs working cooperatively with 
economic development agencies and local stakeholders to facilitate 
economic development on or near AML sites informed by their first-hand 
knowledge and expertise. We recommend that the direct payments 
requirement be continued in FY25.
    Conclusion--In closing, the States and Tribes represented by NAAMLP 
again express our gratitude to Congress for the recognition of the 
value of the AML programs, both coal and hardrock, and the investment 
in their future represented by the IIJA. We look forward to beginning 
this new chapter for coal AML and are thrilled to be moving toward a 
national-scale hardrock AML grants program. With Congress' continuing 
support and attentiveness to AML implementation issues, we feel 
confident that continued success of the State and Tribal AML programs 
is assured.

    [This statement was submitted by Dustin Morin, Director, Mining and 
Reclamation Division.]
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  Prepared Statement of the National Association of Clean Air Agencies
    On behalf of the National Association of Clean Air Agencies 
(NACAA), thank you for this opportunity to provide testimony on the FY 
2025 budget for the United States Environmental Protection Agency 
(EPA), particularly grants to State and local air pollution control 
agencies under Sections 103 and 105 of the Clean Air Act (CAA), which 
are part of the State and Tribal Assistance Grant (STAG) program. NACAA 
has four recommendations with respect to FY 2025 appropriations. The 
association urges Congress to 1) provide $500 million in grants to 
State and local air agencies, which is an increase of $264 million over 
the FY 2024 appropriation of $236 million; 2) provide flexibility to 
State and local air quality agencies to use Federal grants to address 
the highest priority programs in their areas; 3) retain grants for 
monitoring fine particulate matter (PM2.5) under the authority of 
Section 103 of the Clean Air Act, rather than shifting it to Section 
105; and 4) provide grant increases under authorities of the CAA that 
do not require matching funds (e.g., Section 103) as much as possible 
to allow agencies that do not have sufficient matching funds to still 
obtain the additional grants.
    NACAA is the National, nonpartisan, non-profit association of 157 
air pollution control agencies in 40 States, including 117 local air 
agencies, the District of Columbia and four territories. NACAA exists 
to advance the equitable protection of clean air and public health for 
all, and to improve the capability and effectiveness of State and local 
air agencies. These agencies have the ``primary responsibility'' under 
the CAA for implementing our Nation's clean air programs. As such, they 
conduct an array of critical activities intended to improve and 
maintain air quality and protect public health.
               the clean air act has been very successful
    Since the adoption of the CAA in 1970, federal, State and local air 
quality agencies have made tremendous strides in reducing air pollution 
and thereby protecting public health. According to EPA, total emissions 
of the six criteria air pollutants (for which the National health-based 
standards are set) have decreased by 73 percent between 1980 and 2022 
and, between 1990 and 2017, emissions of the toxic air pollutants 
identified in the CAA have declined by 74 percent.\1\ Since State and 
local air agencies have the primary responsibility for implementing the 
Federal clean air program, their contributions to the success of the 
program have been essential.
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    While these impressive air quality improvements took place, our 
country has continued to experience strong economic growth.\2\ During 
the same period identified above (1980--2022), during which pollution 
was reduced markedly, gross domestic product increased 196 percent, 
vehicle miles traveled went up 108 percent, energy consumption 
increased 29 percent and the country's population grew by 47 
percent.\3\ Improvements to air quality and a strong economy have gone 
hand in hand.
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         air pollution remains a serious public health problem
    Despite the gains federal, State and local programs have made in 
the pursuit of healthful air quality, air pollution remains a serious 
public health concern. In fact, very few problems this subcommittee 
addresses pose greater threats to public health than air pollution and 
climate change. Air pollution continues to threaten public health and 
welfare, especially in overburdened environmental justice communities 
that disproportionately suffer adverse human health and environmental 
impacts.
    Each year in America, air pollution causes tens of thousands of 
premature deaths and exposes millions to unhealthful levels of air 
contaminants, resulting in cancer, damage to respiratory, 
cardiovascular, neurological and reproductive systems and other health 
problems.\4\ In 2022, about 85 million people in the U.S. lived in 
areas that exceeded one or more Federal health-based air pollution 
standards.\5\ Additionally, EPA's hazardous air pollution data show 
that ``millions of people live in areas where air toxics pose potential 
health concerns.'' \6\ Environmental justice communities are 
particularly at risk.
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articles/PMC3670349/
    \5\ https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-
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    When it comes to climate change, there is still much to be done to 
address increasing greenhouse gas emissions that result in more and 
worse wildfires, longer ozone seasons and upward-trending global 
temperatures. State and local governments have instituted some of the 
country's strongest climate change programs, making meaningful progress 
towards reducing greenhouse gases.
 significant challenges remain for state and local air quality agencies
    As stated earlier, under the CAA, State and local agencies have the 
primary responsibility for implementing the Federal clean air program. 
This massive undertaking calls for monitoring, issuing permits, 
planning, developing emission-reduction strategies, enforcing rules, 
educating the public, hiring and training staff and conducting many 
other complex activities. Increasingly, these agencies are tasked with 
new and high-priority responsibilities to reduce air pollution, address 
the disproportionate harm facing overburdened communities and tackle 
climate change. Unfortunately, this simply cannot be accomplished with 
current levels of funding.
    Federal, State and local air quality programs have come a long way 
in cleaning up the air, but there is still far to go. Unfortunately, 
there are no longer any ``easy fixes'' or low-hanging fruit to be had. 
What remain are extremely difficult challenges toward making 
incremental, but essential, improvements. These include addressing 
dispersed sources (e.g., mobile sources and smaller area sources), 
climate change, cumulative impacts and other very complex issues. 
Confronting these problems requires investments in increasingly high-
tech solutions that come with a cost, including monitoring, modeling 
and data analysis, among others, not to mention investing in and 
retaining staff who are sufficiently trained in these increasingly 
complicated subject areas.
    Just one example of a problem that is placing greater demands on 
State and local air agencies is wildfires. These fires in many places 
across the country cause smoke and pollution that can pose significant 
public health challenges and they have been rising in number, frequency 
and size. Increased resources are needed for such complex activities as 
monitoring smoke, analyzing data, notifying and communicating with the 
public and promoting preparedness activities, all of which are 
essential to address public concerns and protect public health.
 air agencies need significant resources to succeed and help grow the 
                                economy
    State and local air agencies have been underfunded for many years. 
Federal grants to State and local air quality agencies (under Sections 
103 and 105 of the CAA) were not much higher in FY 2024 than 20 years 
ago, representing a substantial decrease in purchasing power when 
factoring in inflation. During this time, air quality issues have 
become more complicated and costly. Moreover, while Federal grants were 
originally intended to cover 60 percent of the cost of implementing the 
CAA, they cover less than a quarter of that today, with the remainder 
coming largely from State and local programs themselves.
    The increase in funds we are recommending is not necessarily 
sufficient for the many responsibilities facing State and local 
agencies, but it would be very helpful as a foundation of support to 
meet the modern-day demands of our programs. Not only would this 
further our quest for healthful air quality, but adequate funding for 
clean air programs would be good for the economy as well, ultimately 
helping in the creation of new jobs. For example, well-funded State and 
local programs could reduce delays in construction and operating 
permitting, increase needed compliance assistance for businesses, 
provide monitoring that would help tailor strategies to the hardest-hit 
areas and develop rules and plans to implement those strategies.
    Increased grants would be used for many of the basic ongoing and 
essential responsibilities facing State and local air quality agencies. 
Additionally, new funding would support:

  --strengthening pollution detection and visualization through 
        monitors, sensors and airborne- and mobile-detection equipment;

  --supporting small business programs and emission reductions from 
        smaller sources, including inspections, compliance assistance 
        and technical support;

  --addressing climate change through planning, monitoring, permitting 
        and enforcement; energy-transition assistance for communities 
        dependent on fossil fuels; and adaptation and resilience for 
        communities that face extreme weather and climate impacts;

  --ensuring State and local agencies can meet necessary long-term 
        planning requirements and take on the additional air quality 
        responsibilities in new Federal clean energy and clean 
        transportation programs;

  --tackling the ever-increasing threats posed by wildfires, including 
        mitigating adverse health impacts and communicating with the 
        public; and

  --expanding and adding new programs that protect all Americans, 
        especially vulnerable communities that continue to bear the 
        greatest pollution burdens.
 funds from permit fees and recent legislation do not solve the problem
    The permit fee program under Title V of the Clean Air Act, while 
extremely valuable, does not solve State and local air agencies' 
funding problems. Title V fees only support the operating permit 
program and must not be used for other activities (i.e., Federal grants 
and permit fees must not be mingled) and they apply only to major 
sources and do not cover the significant costs for non-major sources 
(e.g., permits, monitoring, enforcement, compliance assistance). 
Additionally, current fees already are substantial and there would be 
significant resistance to any increases. Finally, fee revenue has 
decreased drastically due to reductions in emissions on which they are 
based (i.e., success in controlling emissions results in diminished fee 
revenue).
    The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA)\7\ includes essential and welcome 
funding for State and local air agencies to address climate change in 
particular. However, those funds are not a substitute for the increases 
we seek, which are intended to make up for the historical deficits in 
State and local grant funding and bring the appropriations to the level 
they should be for these agencies to carry out the ongoing 
responsibilities that existed prior to the IRA and will continue into 
the future. Additionally, successfully implementing the IRA will likely 
increase the responsibilities of State and local air agencies' core 
programs, for which the measure did not allocate specific additional 
funding.
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                               conclusion
    Federal grants to State and local air quality agencies are a 
relatively small piece of the National budget. Yet the return on 
investment is among the highest when considering the benefits of 
protecting public health and the environment against the serious 
threats posed by air pollution and climate change.
    State and local air quality agencies' efforts to protect and 
improve air quality are critically important both for public health and 
a sound economy. NACAA recommends that Congress 1) provide $500 million 
in grants to State and local air agencies, which is an increase of $264 
million over the FY 2024 appropriation of $236 million; 2) provide 
flexibility to State and local air quality agencies to use Federal 
grants to address the highest priority programs in their areas; 3) 
retain grants for monitoring PM2.5 under the authority of Section 103 
of the Clean Air Act, rather than shifting it to Section 105; and 4) 
provide grant increases under authorities of the CAA that do not 
require matching funds (e.g., Section 103) as much as possible to allow 
agencies that do not have sufficient matching funds to still obtain the 
additional grants.
    Thank you very much for this opportunity to provide testimony. If 
you require additional information, please contact Miles Keogh 
(mkeogh@4cleanair.org) or Mary Sullivan Douglas 
(mdouglas@4cleanair.org) of NACAA.
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   Prepared Statement of National Association of Clean Water Agencies
    The National Association of Clean Water Agencies (NACWA) represents 
over 350 public wastewater and stormwater utility members nationwide, 
providing essential clean water services to more than 150 million 
Americans daily. These utilities serve communities large and small, 
urban and rural, in nearly every State and work around the clock to 
protect public health and the environment and support economic growth.
    Providing these essential clean water services come with a great 
deal of complex challenges, including reinvesting in aging 
infrastructure, managing the escalating operation and maintenance costs 
and supply chain disruptions, attracting and retaining a skilled 
workforce, addressing water quality impairments and regulations, such 
as for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS), emerging 
contaminants and nutrients, and investing in climate resilience and 
system security.
    Public clean water utilities are working each day to overcome these 
challenges and provide the highest level of service to the communities 
they serve while ensuring rates remain affordable for families and 
local businesses.
    NACWA greatly appreciates Congress's direct appropriations for 
clean water under the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). 
Other programs were authorized but not directly or fully funded through 
the IIJA. It is important that Congress fully appropriate the clean 
water programs authorized and reauthorized under the IIJA to ensure 
local communities have the resources they need to provide essential 
public wastewater and stormwater services.
    NACWA's FY25 requests are below. As always, we appreciate the 
subcommittee's engagement with the Association and our members and 
consideration of these clean water priorities.
                clean water state revolving fund (cwsrf)
    The CWSRF is the primary Federal clean water financing tool that 
communities and public clean water utilities utilize to help meet their 
Clean Water Act (CWA) obligations and infrastructure needs. The CWSRF 
has been instrumental to communities' successes in advancing water 
quality and public health protection for over 40 years. Yet as EPA's 
newly-updated Clean Watersheds Needs Survey shows, the cost of 
maintaining wastewater and stormwater infrastructure is growing 
substantially, with an estimated 20-year need of over $630 billion--a 
73 percent increase since a decade ago. The CWSRF must remain a vital 
tool to support communities in making these investments.
    While the IIJA provided a direct 5-year infusion of additional 
funds into the CWSRF, NACWA appreciates that it was the intent of 
Congress for these funds to supplement--not supplant--continued robust 
annual CWSRF appropriations. NACWA strongly urges annual CWSRF 
appropriations be provided at the full IIJA authorized level of $3.25 
billion for FY25.
    We note that NACWA members who have received Congressionally 
Directed Spending in recent Fiscal Years greatly appreciate those 
funds, and we support their continued provision. However, as the 
Committee considers Congressionally Directed Spending moving forward, 
NACWA urges that funding for these projects is not taken from the 
CWSRF's appropriation total, but rather be additive, to ensure that 
State programs do not see their ability to finance water projects 
severely curtailed and to avoid reducing access to the CWSRF by all 
eligible communities in a State.
    Lastly, NACWA wishes to emphasize that innovative technology will 
play an increasingly vital role in public clean water service 
provision. NACWA appreciates the subcommittee's work in the first FY24 
omnibus appropriations package to enhance the use of clean water 
technology. For FY25, NACWA requests that the Committee include 
language prioritizing eligibilities for technological innovation 
through the CWSRF by allowing States the ability to use up to five 
percent of the funds provided to them for projects that utilize proven 
or emerging clean water technology for publicly owned treatment works 
optimization and to meet or enhance local public health and 
environmental objectives. This will help underscore the ability of the 
CWSRF to finance innovative project approaches and new clean water 
technologies.
          sewer overflow and stormwater reuse municipal grants
    Reducing sewer overflows has been a key driver of financial strain 
on hundreds of communities and their ratepayers. This is especially 
clear in communities under Federal consent decrees, as well as those 
addressing aging infrastructure and/or adjusting to population and 
economic shifts, all while dealing with the growing impacts of climate 
change and extreme weather events.
    The Sewer Overflow and Stormwater Reuse Municipal Grants program 
provides Federal grant dollars to assist municipal clean water 
utilities and communities in more affordably managing combined sewer 
overflows, sanitary sewer overflows, and stormwater flows for water 
reuse. NACWA strongly supports the growth of this program, which 
provides communities with direct grant dollars (as opposed to loans) to 
make these critical investments and fully supports funding at the 
reauthorized level of $280 million in FY25.
                      low-income water assistance
    For over a decade, NACWA has pushed for the creation of a Federal 
low-income water assistance program to help households maintain access 
to affordable and reliable public clean and drinking water services. 
Similar Federal programs exist to help low-income families with food 
and energy costs, and the time has come for water to be equally 
recognized as a costly but vital public health need. A robust and 
permanent Federal water assistance program is critical to ensuring 
communities and public utilities can provide service to all customers 
and set the rates necessary to maintain safe, reliable water and 
wastewater systems.
    NACWA is grateful for the steps Congress has taken to advance this 
vital need by providing funding for a temporary emergency Low Income 
Household Water Assistance Program administered by the U.S. Department 
of Health and Human Services (HHS) and authorizing the establishment of 
an EPA low-income water customer assistance pilot program in the IIJA.
    However, HHS' LIHWAP funding expired at the end of 2023, leaving 
many struggling families unable to afford their essential water 
services. Additional resources are needed to bridge this gap and ensure 
the long-term viability of a permanent program, and NACWA requests the 
subcommittee provide $225 million in FY24 for the EPA to implement its 
pilot program.
                          integrated planning
    Integrated Planning (IP), codified into the CWA by Congress in 
2018, can assist large and small communities in managing costs and 
sequencing and prioritizing their clean water investments-empowering 
communities to maximize environmental benefits and prioritize their 
most critical environmental outcomes. The IP approach requires a shift 
from business as usual, requiring significant work upfront by 
communities, States, and EPA to achieve improved outcomes.
    NACWA greatly appreciates the $2 million provided by the Committee 
in the first FY24 omnibus appropriations package to provide EPA with 
dedicated resources to help communities develop IP frameworks. The 
Agency is currently working with state regulators to incorporate IP 
approaches into permitting and enforcement, a critical step. NACWA 
requests an additional $2 million in FY25 appropriations to continue 
these efforts.
             water workforce infrastructure grants program
    The public clean water sector can provide stable career paths 
across skill levels where workers take pride in serving their 
community. However, the water utility workforce is retiring rapidly and 
public utilities are struggling to compete with other sectors to 
attract and retain workers.
    NACWA strongly supports EPA's Water Workforce Infrastructure 
Development Grant Program and requests that the subcommittee provide at 
least $6 million in FY25, which is higher than the FY24 allocation but 
equal to the FY23 allocation. This funding will support innovative 
efforts to develop tomorrow's utility workforce and ensure long-term 
stability in the sector.
    water infrastructure finance and innovation act (wifia) program
    The WIFIA program complements the SRFs, accelerating significant 
water infrastructure investments and leveraging limited Federal 
resources. NACWA supports at least $75.6 million in FY25 for WIFIA, 
which is equal to the FY23 appropriated amount and a slight increase 
from FY24 appropriations. NACWA also supports an additional $5 million 
for the SWIFIA program, which allows state financing authorities that 
administer the SRFs to apply for WIFIA loans directly through the EPA. 
This ability of a State to bundle multiple projects on its approved 
intended use plan can increase participation in smaller, rural, and 
lesser-resourced communities.
    clean water infrastructure resilience and sustainability program
    NACWA strongly supports this program, which was established under 
the IIJA to help clean water utilities that are on the front lines of 
mitigating the impacts of climate change and extreme weather. 
Communities vary in how climate change impacts their infrastructure and 
are trying to implement locally appropriate solutions that ensure 
resilience for critical water services. For FY25, NACWA requests the 
fully authorized amount of $25 million to jumpstart this program.
   connection to publicly owned treatment works (potws) grant program
    NACWA continues its support for this program, established under the 
IIJA, which allows the EPA to provide grants to POTWs or nonprofit 
organizations to cover the costs incurred from connecting a household 
to a municipal or private wastewater system. Connecting Americans 
currently served by a decentralized water system can help provide clean 
water and sanitation services to underserved communities while also 
better-protecting water quality in impaired bodies of water across the 
country. NACWA requests the total authorized amount of $40 million in 
FY25 to establish this critical program.
 establish the small publicly owned treatment works (potws) efficiency 
                                 grants
    NACWA requests that the subcommittee establish the Small POTWs 
Efficiency Grant Program at EPA. This program, authorized under the 
IIJA, allows the EPA to assist small POTWs that serve fewer than 10,000 
people or a disadvantaged community by replacing or repairing equipment 
to increase water or energy efficiency. At least 15 percent of 
appropriated funds made available under this program will be used for 
grants to POTWs that serve fewer than 3,300 people. Because the rate 
basis of these small communities is so small, it can be very difficult 
for the POTWs serving these communities to upgrade their plants to 
operate more efficiently.
   grants for construction and refurbishing of individual household 
 decentralized wastewater systems for individuals with low or moderate 
                                 income
    NACWA requests that the subcommittee provide $50 million for grants 
from the EPA to allow nonprofit organizations to receive funds to 
construct, repair, or replace decentralized wastewater systems for low- 
or moderate-income households or groups of such families. This program, 
which was authorized under the IIJA, would significantly protect water 
quality throughout communities that do not have access to sewer 
sanitary disposal systems and where a connection to a publicly owned 
treatment works (POTWs) might not be feasible or is cost-efficient.
                                  pfas
    Clean water utilities are very concerned about emerging 
contaminants in their influent, the impact of these chemicals on 
treated effluent and biosolids, and potential costs that may accrue to 
public ratepayers. NACWA urges strong funding for EPA to advance 
scientific understanding of PFAS in the environment--particularly 
exposure pathways, toxicity levels, and treatment technologies--key 
factors that guide the development of appropriate, scientific, risk-
based standards to protect public health and the environment. This work 
can also help advance source control and the transition from PFAS in 
products and supply chains to alternative materials.
    As a crucial part of this, NACWA urges Congress to provide 
dedicated funding to bolster EPA's Biosolids Program, which regulates 
the beneficial reuse of wastewater treatment residuals. EPA's ongoing 
work on the problem formulation for biosolids is critical to providing 
certainty regarding continued safe residual management.
                        additional key programs
    NACWA also supports strong funding for the EPA's Geographic 
Programs, which support critical watershed-based investments; Section 
319 Nonpoint Source grants, which support watershed solutions to 
pollution driven by nonpoint sources, which remain the largest 
outstanding driver of water quality impairments; and the EPA's National 
Priorities Water Research grant program, which supports work on timely 
national water research initiatives.

    [This statement was submitted by Matthew McKenna, NACWA Director, 
Government Affairs.]
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Prepared Statement of the National Association of State Departments of 
                              Agriculture
    The National Association of State Departments of Agriculture 
(NASDA) commends the subcommittee for its work in support of farmers, 
ranchers, and rural communities. NASDA represents the Commissioners, 
Secretaries, and Directors of agriculture in all 50 States and 4 
territories. NASDA members are co-regulators with the Federal 
Government and strong advocates for American agriculture.
    As you begin the fiscal year (FY) 2025 appropriations process, 
NASDA asks you to prioritize the following programs that enhance 
farmers, ranchers, and rural communities and ensure a safe, affordable, 
and abundant food supply.
               state and tribal assistance grants (stag)
    State and Tribal Assistance Grants provide States with funding to 
implement the co-regulatory framework of the Federal Insecticide, 
Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act. Increased funds will allow States to 
meet their increasing workload regarding drift complaints and 
implementation of new Federal regulations.
FIFRA STAG--Pesticide Enforcement Program: $25.58 million
    The Pesticide Enforcement Program is critical to allow state 
enforcement agencies to continue their activities, particularly given 
substantial new compliance and enforcement obligations.
FIFRA STAG--Pesticides Program Implementation Program: $14.027 million
    The Pesticides Program Implementation Program allows States and 
Tribes to translate often complex pesticide regulatory decisions for 
end-users. This includes the Agricultural Worker Protection Standard 
and Certification and Training Program, the Endangered Species 
Protection Program, Integrated Pest Management, and more.
                   office of pesticide programs (opp)
    NASDA supports increased funding for EPA's Office of Pesticide 
Programs (OPP) at $166 million to ensure timely registration reviews 
and regulatory workload management. Increased funding would provide OPP 
with the resources needed to meet the decision timelines under the law 
and ensure that OPP has adequate funding for all of its activities. 
Since the enactment of the Pesticide Registration Improvement Act 
(PRIA), Congress has intended for industry fees to supplement annual 
appropriations. PRIA requires the termination of the fee program if a 
minimum level of appropriations is not provided.
                 u.s. fish and wildlife service (usfws)
    NASDA supports increased funding for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service (USFWS) to meet their pesticide consultation obligations and to 
manage their Endangered Species Act (ESA) workloads promptly. The USFWS 
and the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) have the primary 
authority to protect threatened and endangered species. The ESA also 
requires other Federal agencies to consult USFWS and NMFS when any 
action the agency carries out, funds, or authorizes may affect a 
species listed as threatened or endangered under the act or any 
critical habitat designated for it. Courts have ruled that the process 
EPA has utilized to meet the consultation requirement is inadequate. 
This has resulted in the revocation of product registrations and uses. 
This additional funding would allow for additional full-time employees 
to be used for pesticide consultations.
                  epa and u.s. army corps of engineers
    NASDA recommends that the Committee limit the EPA (Environmental 
Protection Agency) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) from 
funding the enforcement of the 2023 revised definition of ``Waters of 
the United States'' (WOTUS), until the agencies provide to Congress 
guidance documents that have been used by agency staff to implement the 
Sackett v. EPA decision.
    Almost a year has passed since the landmark Sackett decision, and 
it has been over 6 months since the conforming rule was published, and 
the Agencies still have not effectively engaged the public or addressed 
inquiries from the regulated community on implementation. The agencies 
have revised regulations attempting to implement the Sackett decision 
but have not provided the clarity needed for state departments of 
agriculture, farmers, and landowners across the country. NASDA 
respectfully requests that you limit EPA and USACE from funding until 
they provide implementation materials and guidance for the 2023 revised 
definition of WOTUS.
    NASDA thanks you for your careful consideration of these requests 
as you work to fund the programs that enhance farmers and ranchers and 
ensure a safe, affordable, and abundant food supply. If you have any 
questions, please contact RJ Karney, Senior Director Public Policy, 
RJ.Karney@nasda.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Ted McKinney, CEO National 
Association of State Departments of Agriculture.]
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  Prepared Statement of National Association of State Energy Officials
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee, I am David Terry, President of the National Association 
of State Energy Officials (NASEO), which represents the 56 State and 
Territory Energy Directors and their Offices. NASEO submits this 
testimony in support of funding for the ENERGY STAR program (within the 
Climate Protection Partnership Division of the Office of Air and 
Radiation) at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). NASEO 
supports funding of at least $50 million in FY'25, including specific 
report language directing that the funds be utilized only for the 
ENERGY STAR program. The program received $54 million a decade ago and 
is now down to approximately $35 million. The ENERGY STAR program is 
successful, voluntary, and cost-effective. The program has a proven 
track record--it makes sense, it saves energy and money, and Americans 
embrace it. ENERGY STAR helps consumers and businesses control 
expenditures over the long term. The program is strongly supported by 
product manufacturers, utilities, and homebuilders, and ENERGY STAR 
leverages the States' voluntary efficiency actions. Voluntary ENERGY 
STAR activities are occurring in public buildings, such as schools, in 
conjunction with State Energy Offices, in virtually every State, 
including Oregon and Alaska. The States and the public utilize ENERGY 
STAR because it is seen as unbiased and delivers cost-saving benefits 
to businesses, consumers and State and local governments.
    The ENERGY STAR program is focused on voluntary efforts that reduce 
energy waste, promotes energy efficiency and renewable energy, and 
works with States, local governments, communities and business to 
achieve these goals in a cooperative, public-private manner.
    Most State Energy Offices and NASEO work closely with the ENERGY 
STAR program. With very limited funding, EPA's ENERGY STAR program 
coordinates with the State Energy Offices to give consumers and 
businesses the opportunity and technical assistance tools to make 
better energy decisions and catalyzes product efficiency improvements 
by manufacturers without regulation or mandates. The program is 
voluntary.
    ENERGY STAR focuses on energy-efficient products as well as 
buildings (e.g., residential, commercial, and industrial). Over 300 
million ENERGY STAR qualified products were sold in 2019 alone, not 
including another 300 million ENERGY STAR certified light bulbs. The 
ENERGY STAR label is recognized across the United States. Approximately 
90 percent of households recognize the ENERGY STAR label and a majority 
of surveyed U.S. households reported having purchased an ENERGY STAR 
product. The manufacturing, installation, design, wholesale 
distribution, and provision of installation services related to ENERGY 
STAR products employed approximately 750,000 American workers (not 
including retail employment) according to a 2023 DOE Report. It makes 
the work of the State Energy Offices much easier, by providing 
consumers an easily-recognized product and services option. In order to 
obtain the ENERGY STAR label, a product has to meet established 
guidelines. ENERGY STAR's voluntary partnership programs include ENERGY 
STAR Buildings, ENERGY STAR Homes, ENERGY STAR Small Business, and 
ENERGY STAR Labeled Products. We are also encouraged by the ENERGY STAR 
Home Upgrades Program.
    State Energy Offices are working with EPA to promote ENERGY STAR 
products, ENERGY STAR for new construction, ENERGY STAR for public 
housing, etc. Another ENERGY STAR success is in the manufactured 
housing sector. Some States and utilities offer modest rebates for 
ENERGY STAR manufactured homes in order to deliver both energy cost 
savings to homeowners and lower overall electric grid operation costs 
for all customers.
    In 2023, millions of consumers and thousands of voluntary partners, 
including manufacturers, builders, businesses, communities, and 
utilities, tapped the value of ENERGY STAR and achieved impressive 
financial and environmental results.
    More than 840 utilities, State, and local governments and non-
profits utilize ENERGY STAR in their energy efficiency programs, as do 
approximately 1,700 manufacturers.
    The State Energy Offices are very encouraged by progress made at 
EPA, in partnership with the U.S. Department of Energy, and in our 
States to promote programs to make schools more energy-efficient while 
improving indoor air quality and comfort. In fact, there are over 150 
ENERGY STAR-rated schools in States from Arizona to Maine. In addition, 
many States' private sector partners voluntarily utilize ENERGY STAR to 
promote energy efficiency and lower operating costs.
    EPA provides technical assistance to the State Energy Offices in 
such areas as ENERGY STAR Portfolio Manager (how to rate the 
performance of buildings), setting an energy target, and financing 
options for building improvements and building upgrade strategies. 
ENERGY STAR Portfolio Manager is used extensively by State Energy 
Offices to benchmark performance of State and municipal buildings, 
saving taxpayer dollars. Portfolio Manager is the industry-leading 
benchmarking tool which has been used voluntarily in approximately 50% 
of the commercial buildings in the United States. Portfolio Manager is 
used to measure, track, assess, and report energy and water 
consumption. Portfolio Manager has been updated and is now more 
helpful. Portfolio Manager is utilized by 7 States and 48 local 
governments.
    Additionally, the industrial sector embraces ENERGY STAR at job-
creating companies such as GM, Eastman Chemical, Nissan, Raytheon, and 
Boeing. At the close of 2022, more than 750 U.S. industrial sites had 
committed to the ENERGY STAR Challenge for Industry
    The State Energy Offices are working cooperatively with our peers 
in the state environmental agencies and state public utilities 
commissions to ensure that programs, regulations, projects and policies 
are developed recognizing both energy and environmental concerns. We 
have worked closely with this program at EPA to address these issues. 
We encourage these continued efforts.
    For example, in Oregon, the State is focused on decarbonization 
efforts, and ENERGY STAR is a useful tool to promote sustained 
investments in energy efficiency. In Alaska, the State has worked with 
partners to promote the Village Energy Efficiency Program, and ENERGY 
STAR has been critical.
    Moreover, Oregon and Alaska have significant ENERGY STAR activities 
underway:

  --Oregon is home to more than 1,111 businesses and organizations 
        participating in U.S. EPA's ENERGY STAR program: 9 
        manufacturers of ENERGY STAR certified products; 10 companies 
        supporting independent certification of ENERGY STAR products 
        and homes; and 49 companies building ENERGY STAR certified 
        homes. ENERGY STAR Partner Activity in Oregon includes 1.9 
        million customers served by ENERGY STAR utility partners in 
        2020; 3,607 buildings (255 million square feet) benchmarked 
        using EPA's ENERGY STAR Portfolio Manager; 26,522 homes earned 
        the ENERGY STAR; 437 buildings earned the ENERGY STAR, 
        including 107 schools, 3 hotels, 6 hospitals, 142 office 
        buildings and 5 industrial plants.

  --Alaska is home to more than 52 businesses and organizations 
        participating in U.S. EPA's ENERGY STAR program; has 153,000 
        customers being served by ENERGY STAR utility partners; 437 
        buildings that have been benchmarked using EPA's ENERGY STAR 
        Portfolio Manager; 11,891 homes have earned the ENERGY STAR 
        label; and 31 schools and 4 hospitals.
                               conclusion
    The ENERGY STAR program saves consumers billions of dollars every 
year. The payback and job creation benefits are enormous. NASEO 
supports robust program funding of at least $50 million in FY'25. 
Funding for the ENERGY STAR program is justified. It is a solid public-
private relationship that leverages resources, time and talent to 
produce tangible results by saving energy and money and, in light of 
Administrator Michael Regan's commitment to environmental justice, can 
provide immense benefits to high-need and underserved communities. 
NASEO endorses these activities as well as the constructive 
partnerships that the State Energy Offices have with EPA to 
cooperatively implement a variety of critical national programs without 
mandates.

    [This statement was submitted by David Terry, President, National 
Association of State Energy Officials.]
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   Prepared Statement of the National Association of State Foresters
    The National Association of State Foresters (NASF) appreciates the 
opportunity to submit written public testimony to the House Committee 
on Appropriations, subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies regarding our fiscal year (FY) 2025 appropriations 
recommendations. Our priorities focus primarily on appropriations for 
the USDA Forest Service (Forest Service) State, Private, and Tribal 
Forestry (SP&TF) programs, as well as the Research and Development 
(R&D) Forest Inventory and Analysis Program.
    State foresters deliver technical and financial assistance, along 
with forest health, water, and wildfire protection for more than two-
thirds of the Nation's 751 million acres of forests. The Forest Service 
SP&TF mission area provides vital support to deliver these services, 
which contribute to the socioeconomic and environmental health of rural 
and urban areas. The comprehensive process for delivering these 
services is articulated in each State's Forest Resource Assessment and 
Strategy (Forest Action Plan), authorized in the 2008 Farm Bill and 
continued in the 2018 Farm Bill. State Forest Action Plans-completed in 
2010, updated in 2015, and comprehensively revised in 2020 by all 59 
States, U.S. territories, freely associated States, and the District of 
Columbia-offer practical and comprehensive roadmaps for investing 
federal, State, local, and private resources where they can be most 
effective in achieving national conservation goals. SP&TF programs 
provide a significant return on Federal investment by leveraging the 
boots-on-the-ground and financial resources of State agencies to 
deliver assistance to forest landowners, Tribes, and communities. As 
Federal and State governments continue to face financial challenges, 
state foresters, in partnership with the SP&TF mission area of the 
Forest Service, are best positioned to maximize the effectiveness of 
available resources by focusing work on priority forest issues where 
resources are needed most.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA/BIL) has provided 
game changing support in the form of flexible funding for State Forest 
Action Plan implementation-allowing States to address the highest 
priority forest management activities within their state, as identified 
and developed collaboratively with partners and stakeholders. 
Additionally, the IIJA/BIL provided critical support for the State Fire 
Assistance and Volunteer Fire Assistance Programs. We look forward to 
working with you to develop pathways for these historic investments to 
continue beyond FY2026.
    Your support of the following programs is critical to helping 
States address the many and varied challenges outlined in Forest Action 
Plans.
     assisting landowners and maintaining healthy forests--forest 
             stewardship program and forest legacy program
    Actively managed healthy forest landscapes are a vital part of 
rural America, providing an estimated 900,000 jobs, clean water, wood 
products, and other essential services to millions of Americans. Over 
50% of U.S. forestland is privately owned and supports an average of 
eight jobs per 1,000 acres.\1\ However, the Forest Service estimates 
that 57 million acres of private forests in the U.S. are at risk of 
conversion to urban development over the next two decades. Programs 
like the Forest Stewardship Program (FSP) and the Forest Legacy Program 
(FLP) are key tools identified in the Forest Action Plans for keeping 
working forests intact and providing a full suite of benefits to 
society. With the Great American Outdoors Act (GAOA) signed into law, 
the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) now receives permanent 
annual funding at the full authorized level of $900 million, nearly 
doubling historical appropriations for the LWCF. FLP should receive 
significantly increased funding levels commensurate with the increased 
funding provided to the LWCF by the GAOA.
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    \1\ Forest2Market. The Economic Impact of Privately-Owned Forests. 
2009.
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    Currently, there are over 20 million acres nationwide managed under 
the Forest Stewardship Program. FSP is the most extensive family 
forest-owner assistance program in the country and is delivered in 
partnership with state forestry agencies, cooperative extension 
services, certified foresters, conservation districts, and other 
partners. In 2023, the program initiated over 12,000 new management 
plans providing assistance and educational opportunities to over 
585,000 landowners and covering over 1.32 million acres. FSP equips 
private forest landowners with the unbiased, science-based information 
they need to sustainably manage their forests now and into the future, 
helping to keep forests as forests. In addition to delivering technical 
assistance directly to forestland owners, the Forest Stewardship 
Program often serves as a gateway to other landowner cost-share 
assistance programming, like the USDA Environmental Quality Incentives 
Program, State programs, and partner programs, that can help landowners 
keep their forests working and intact. Forest landowners with 
management plans are almost three times more likely to meet their 
management objectives compared to those without management plans. The 
FSP leads landowners to reach their management objectives while tying 
them to the State's Forest Action Plan.
    The Forest Stewardship Program is facing an uncertain future. Not 
only does current enrollment represent only a fraction of the 
landowners and acres that could benefit from the program with 
additional funding, but--assuming continued level funding--the Forest 
Stewardship Program will see close to 7 million acres leave the program 
over the next 3 years due to expiring plans. The result is families and 
individuals without the additional resources needed to meet their 
forest management goals and a strain on other agencies' programs and 
resources to support landowners who previously received assistance 
through the Forest Stewardship Program. Although effective and in 
demand, the Forest Stewardship Program has seen a troubling 50 percent 
decline in Federal funding over the last decade. The program simply 
cannot meet or maintain its current enrollment without sustained 
increases in funding.
    Following congressional direction, NASF has worked closely with the 
Forest Service to modernize the funding allocation formula to State 
agencies for FSP, focused on improving program delivery with greater 
emphasis on performance-based outcomes. Under the new allocation 
formula, priority areas and priority resource concerns have been 
designated in each State and greater emphasis has been placed on 
providing technical assistance and implementing land management plans 
in those priority areas. NASF supports funding for the Forest 
Stewardship Program at $22 million, a $10 million increase from the FY 
2024 enacted level and the Forest Legacy Program at $128 million, a $40 
million increase from the FY 2024 enacted level, in FY 2025.
    state fire assistance (sfa) and volunteer fire assistance (vfa)
    More people living in fire-prone landscapes, high fuel loads, 
drought, and deteriorating forest health have led most state foresters 
to identify wildland fire as a priority issue in their Forest Action 
Plans. We now grapple with increasingly expensive and complex wildland 
fires--fires that frequently threaten human life and property. Prior to 
2003, our forests and communities experienced an average of 2.8 million 
acres burning annually. Since 2004, however, annual wildfires have 
burned over 7.1 million acres on average, with historic highs in the 
numbers of acres burned in 2015, 2017, and 2020.\2\ As of last month, 
we have already seen nearly 1.8 million acres burned in 2024 with the 
summer and fall fire season yet ahead of us. State and local agencies 
respond to the majority of wildfires across the country; in 2023 State 
and local agencies were responsible for responding to 46,176 (82%) of 
the 56,580 reported wildfires across all jurisdictions.
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    \2\ Wildfires and acres. National Interagency Fire Center. (n.d.). 
Last accessed on April 30, 2024 at https://www.nifc.gov/fire-
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    SFA and VFA are the fundamental Federal mechanisms for assisting 
States and local fire departments in responding to wildland fires and 
conducting management activities that mitigate fire risk on non-federal 
lands. SFA also helps train and equip local first responders who are 
often the first to arrive at a wildland fire incident and who play a 
crucial role in keeping fires and their costs as minimal as possible. 
Attacking fires when they are small is the key to reducing fatalities, 
injuries, loss of homes, and cutting Federal fire-fighting costs. The 
need for increased funding for fire suppression on Federal lands has 
broad support. The need to increase fire suppression funding for state 
and private lands, where roughly 80 percent of wildfires occur and 
where many Federal fires begin, is just as urgent. NASF supports 
funding the State Fire Assistance Program at $85 million, a $9 million 
increase from the FY 2024 enacted level, and Volunteer Fire Assistance 
Program at $25 million, a $4 million increase from the FY 2024 enacted 
level, in FY 2025.
                    forest pests and invasive plants
    Among the greatest threats identified in the Forest Action Plans 
are native and non-native pests and diseases which have the potential 
to displace native trees, shrubs, and other vegetation types in 
forests; the Forest Service estimates that hundreds of native and non-
native insects and diseases damage the Nation's forests each year. The 
growing number of damaging pests and diseases are often introduced and 
spread by way of wooden shipping materials, movement of firewood, and 
through various types of recreation. An estimated 81 million acres are 
at risk of attack by insects and disease.\3\ These extensive areas of 
high insect or disease mortality can set the stage for large-scale, 
catastrophic wildfire.
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    \3\ Tkacz, Bory, et al. 2014. NIDRM 2012 Report Files: Executive 
Summary. 2013-2027 National Insect and Disease Forest Risk Assessment. 
Last accessed on March, 5, 2019 at: http://www.fs.fed.us/foresthealth/
technology/pdfs/2012_RiskMap_Exec_summary.pdf
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    The Cooperative Forest Health Management program supports 
activities related to prevention, monitoring, suppression, and 
eradication of insects, diseases, and plants through provision of 
technical and financial assistance to States and territories to 
maintain healthy, productive forest ecosystems on non-federal forest 
lands. The Cooperative Forest Health Management program plays a 
critical part in protecting communities already facing outbreaks and in 
preventing exposure of more forests and trees to the devastating and 
costly effects of damaging pests and pathogens. NASF supports funding 
the Forest Health-Cooperative Lands Program at $39.43 million in FY 
2025, a $7.4 million increase from the FY 2024 enacted level.
            urban and community forest management challenges
    Urban forests are essential for achieving energy savings, improved 
air quality, neighborhood stability, aesthetic value, reduced noise, 
and improved quality of life in municipalities and communities around 
the country. Urban trees and forests provide a wide array of social, 
economic, and environmental benefits to people living in urban areas; 
today, more than 83 percent of the Nation's population lives in urban 
areas. Yet, urban and community forests face serious threats, such as 
development and urbanization, invasive pests and diseases, and fire in 
the wildland urban interface (WUI).
    The program is delivered in close partnership with state foresters 
and leverages existing local efforts that have helped thousands of 
communities and towns manage, maintain, and improve their tree cover 
and green spaces. In FY 2023, the U&CF program delivered technical, 
financial, educational, and research assistance to 7,542 communities 
across all 50 States, U.S. territories, three nations in compacts of 
free association with the U.S., and the District of Columbia. NASF 
supports funding the Urban and Community Forestry Program at $42 
million in FY 2025, a $6 million increase from the FY 2024 enacted 
level.
    importance of forest inventory data in monitoring forest issues
    The Forest Inventory and Analysis (FIA) program, managed by Forest 
Service, Forest and Rangeland Research, is the only comprehensive 
inventory system in the United States for assessing the health and 
sustainability of the Nation's forests across all ownerships. FIA 
provides essential data related to forest species composition, forest 
growth rates, and forest health data, and it delivers baseline 
inventory estimates used in Forest Action Plans. Further, this data is 
used by academics, researchers, industry, and others to understand 
forest trends and support investments in forest products facilities 
that provide jobs and products to society. The program provides 
unbiased information used in monitoring of wildlife habitat, wildfire 
risk, insect and disease threats, invasive species spread, and response 
to priorities identified in the Forest Action Plans.
    As the key partner in FIA program delivery via State contribution 
of matching funds, state foresters look forward to continued work with 
the Forest Service to improve efficiency in delivery of the program to 
meet the needs of the diverse user groups for FIA data. This will 
ensure that, at a minimum, the historical level of base program 
delivery is accomplished, which should include funding the collection 
of data on a 7-year cycle in the east and 10-year cycle in the west. 
NASF appreciates Congress supporting this program with a significant 
increase in FY 2023 and encourages ongoing support of the Forest 
Inventory and Analysis Program at $32.4 million in FY 2025, a $930,000 
increase from the FY 2024 enacted level. Furthermore, we continue our 
request that you work with the Forest Service to establish a budget 
line item for FIA for salaries and expenses.
                   landscape scale restoration (lsr)
    The Landscape Scale Restoration (LSR) program is an important way 
that States address critical forest priorities across the landscape, in 
collaboration with the Forest Service and other partners. LSR projects 
focus on the most critical priorities identified in each State's Forest 
Action Plan and on achieving resource objectives outlined in the 2018 
Farm Bill. The program prioritizes funding projects that reduce the 
risk of uncharacteristic wildfires, improve fish and wildlife habitats, 
maintain or improve water quality and watershed function, mitigate 
invasive species, insect infestation and disease, improve important 
forest ecosystems, and measure ecological and economic benefits 
including air and soil quality and productivity. As a result, LSR 
contributes to achieving results across the landscape and to making 
meaningful local, regional, and national impacts. NASF supports funding 
the Landscape Scale Restoration Program at $20 million in FY 2025, a $6 
million increase from the FY 2024 enacted level.
    NASF appreciates the opportunity to share our FY 2025 
appropriations recommendations for the Forest Service with the 
subcommittee.

    [This statement was submitted by Scott Phillips, South Carolina 
State Forester, and President, NASF.]
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   Prepared Statement of the National Association of Tribal Historic 
                         Preservation Officers
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
subcommittee, I appreciate this opportunity to provide the National 
Association of Tribal Historic Preservation Officers' (NATHPO)'s 
recommendations for Fiscal Year 2025 appropriations. My name is Valerie 
Grussing and I am the Executive Director.
    We greatly appreciated the Committee's decision to include $23 
million in the Tribal line item of the Historic Preservation Fund (HPF) 
in the Fiscal Year 2024 Interior Appropriations bill. The Committee's 
support was instrumental in the Tribal line item, which supports Tribal 
Historic Preservation Officers (THPOs), being funded at $23 million in 
FY24.
    Despite the Committee's strong support, Tribal Nations still lack 
the funding they need to fulfill their federally delegated 
responsibility to protect and preserve cultural resources and sacred 
places. The $23 million for the Tribal line item for FY24 is the same 
amount as was allocated for the line item in FY23. This is problematic 
for two key reasons: THPOs have experienced a significant increase in 
the number of projects on which they are required to consult, related 
to efforts under the Inflation Reduction Act, the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law, renewable energy development, and improving 
broadband buildout. THPOs have not received a commensurate increase in 
funding for staffing to handle these increased reviews. The growing 
workload on THPOs is exacerbated by the significant annual increase in 
the number of THPOs. While the funding for the Tribal line item stayed 
at $23 million from FY23 to FY24, the number of THPOs increased from 
211 to 222. These combined challenges have resulted in the average 
amount of funding that each THPO receives declining from $108,000 in 
2023 to $104,000 in 2024.
    What is at stake? The work that THPOs do is about much more than 
restoring culturally important land or rivers or preserving species 
that are central to Tribal Nations' stories. At its core, THPOs' work 
is about addressing epidemics in Indian Country that are the symptoms 
of historical trauma--of people systematically cut off from their 
families, languages, practices, and lands. Reconnecting Native peoples 
to their cultural heritage, traditions, and places has the power to 
help heal deep generational wounds. Treating the cause: that is the 
work THPOs do. To continue this work in Indian Country, it is essential 
that THPO programs receive increased funding to meet the significant 
need. We urge the Committee to also support the following funding 
levels:

    1. National Park Service, Historic Preservation Fund, Tribal line 
item ($34 million)

    2. National Park Service, National NAGPRA Program:

    a. Exclusively for NAGPRA Grants ($12.4 million)

    b. Program administration ($1 million for Program Use)

    3. Bureau of Indian Affairs--Create line items and support the 
following divisions:

    a.Cultural Resource compliance at the 12 Regional BIA Offices ($8 
million);

    b.Central Office cultural resource efforts throughout the bureau 
($800,000);

    c.NAGPRA compliance work ($1.5 million);

    d.To fight ARPA crimes on Indian reservations ($850,000);

    e.Museum property and curation ($400,000).

    4. Smithsonian Institution: For repatriation activities, including 
Review Committee and repatriation office ($3 million)

    5. Bureau of Land Management: Tribal Liaison Program, NAGPRA 
compliance ($3 million)

    6. Department of Justice, Environmental Crime Section: STOP Act, 
NAGPRA, ARPA enforcement ($1 million)

    What are Tribal Historic Preservation Officers (THPOs)? THPOs are 
an exercise of Tribal sovereignty, appointed by federally recognized 
Tribal governments that have an agreement with the Department of the 
Interior to assume the Federal compliance role of the State Historic 
Preservation Officers (SHPO), per the National Historic Preservation 
Act (NHPA). Tribal historic preservation plans are grounded in self-
determination, traditional knowledge, and cultural values, and may 
involve projects to improve Indian schools, roads, health clinics, and 
housing. THPOs are the first responders when a sacred site is 
threatened or when Native ancestors are disturbed by development. THPOs 
are often responsible for their Tribe's oral history programs, 
operating museums and cultural centers, leading revitalization of 
Native traditions and languages, and many more related functions.
    What is NATHPO? NATHPO is a national nonprofit association of THPOs 
protecting culturally important places that perpetuate Native identity, 
resilience, and cultural endurance.
1. Historic Preservation Fund (HPF), administered by NPS--Tribal line 
        item ($34 million)
    As of March 1, 2024, there were 222 National Park Service (NPS)-
recognized THPOs. Each THPO represents an affirmative step by an Indian 
Tribe to assume the responsibilities of the SHPO for their respective 
Tribal lands, as authorized by Congress in the 1992 amendments to the 
National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA). Collectively, they exercise 
responsibilities over a land base exceeding 50 million acres in 30 
States. The HPF is the sole source of Federal funding for THPOs. We 
recommend $34 million to carry out the requirements of the NHPA. This 
would provide the 222 federally recognized THPOs an average of $153,153 
each to run their programs. Funding THPOs and staff creates jobs, 
generates economic development, and spurs community revitalization. It 
also facilitates required environmental and historic review processes, 
including for energy and infrastructure permitting. Tribes don't want 
to stop this development--they need it more than anyone. But they also 
need to reap the benefits rather than just continue to incur the costs. 
Providing $34 million for THPOs for FY25 would strengthen the 
permitting process, while at the same time making sure Tribal Nations' 
cultural resources and sacred places are protected and preserved.

Additional HPF programs administered by the National Park Service:

    NATHPO appreciates the strong HPF funding levels the Committee has 
provided in recent years. We support an overall FY25 HPF request of 
$225 million. Within that funding we recommend:

  --$70 million for State Historic Preservation Officers (SHPOs);

  --$34 million for Tribal Historic Preservation Officers (THPOs);

  --$28 million for competitive grants related to African American 
        Civil Rights;

  --$7 million for the History of Equal Rights Grants program;

  --$13 million for grants to Historically Black Colleges and 
        Universities;

  --$40 million for Save America's Treasures grants;

  --$17 million for Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization grants;

  --$5 million for grants related to communities underrepresented on 
        the National Register of Historic Places and National Historic 
        Landmarks;

  --$5 million for grants related to communities underrepresented on 
        the National Register of Historic Places and National Historic 
        Landmarks;

  --$11 million for the Semiquincentennial grant program to preserve 
        historical sites commemorating the 250th Anniversary of the 
        United States of America.
2. National Park Service, National NAGPRA Program
    The Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) 
provides for the disposition of Native American cultural items \1\ 
removed from Federal or Tribal lands, or in the repatriation of 
cultural items in possession or control of museums or Federal agencies 
to lineal descendants, Indian Tribes, or Native Hawaiian organizations. 
NAGPRA also prohibits trafficking of cultural items.
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    NAGPRA Grants Program: The National Park Service recently revised 
the regulations implementing NAGPRA. These revisions dramatically 
increased the burden on Indian Tribes, Native Hawaiian organizations, 
and museums. We request that the NAGPRA grants program be funded at 
$12.4 million. We also request that you direct the Government 
Accountability Office to evaluate the effectiveness of this grant 
program and the cost estimates prepared by the Department of the 
Interior for the regulations.
    Administration of National NAGPRA Program: $1 million, 
additionally, for NAGPRA program administration, including the 
publication of Federal Register notices, grant administration, civil 
penalty investigations, and Review Committee costs. We also request 
that you direct the Government Accountability Office to evaluate the 
effectiveness of the National NAGPRA Program's implementation of civil 
penalty investigations.
3. Bureau of Indian Affairs--Create line items and support the 
        following divisions
    The BIA has federally mandated responsibilities to work with Indian 
Tribes and comply with the NHPA, the National Environmental Policy Act 
(NEPA), NAGPRA, and the Archaeological Resources Protection Act (ARPA). 
Currently the BIA does not have any budget line items devoted to 
complying with these Federal laws. Funds are not only needed for the 
BIA to comply with their internal development efforts, such as roads 
and forestry, but also to conduct project reviews of outside 
development projects, such as oil and gas development. ARPA crime on 
Indian reservations continues to be a major problem, as looters and 
traffickers continue to steal valuable cultural resources from Tribal 
and Federal lands. Until recently, the BIA did not have any special 
agents or law enforcement forces to combat this uniquely destructive 
crime in Indian Country. There are now four agents nationwide and we 
urge the Committee to enable two additional agents nationwide plus two 
in Alaska. The new NAGPRA regulations place significant compliance 
requirements on the Tribes regarding grave protection, discoveries, and 
excavations on Tribal lands, including non-trust lands within the 
exterior boundaries of Indian reservations.

    NATHPO recommends the BIA create line items and support the 
following divisions:

    a. Cultural Resource compliance at the 12 Regional BIA Offices ($8 
million);

    b. Central Office cultural resource efforts throughout the bureau 
($800,000);

    c. NAGPRA compliance work ($1.5 million);

    d. To fight ARPA crimes on Indian reservations ($850,000);

    e. Museum property and curation ($400,000);

    f. Assistance to Tribes to carry out responsibilities for grave 
protection, discoveries, and excavations on Tribal lands ($40 million).

    4. Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of the American Indian 
and the National Museum of Natural History Repatriation Programs

    NATHPO requests that the Smithsonian Institution receive $3 million 
specifically directed to expediting its repatriation activities.

    5. Bureau of Land Management: Tribal Liaisons and Cultural 
Resources Management

    The BLM oversees the largest, most diverse and scientifically 
important collection of historic and cultural resources on our Nation's 
public lands, as well as the museum collections and data associated 
with them. We appreciate the Committee's commitment to ongoing 
oversight of the Department's reorganization. NATHPO and many other 
organizations are profoundly concerned with the impact of the 
reorganization and loss of staff within the Cultural Resources 
Division. The cultural resources program also supports NHPA Section 106 
review of land-use proposals, Section 110 inventory and protection of 
cultural resources, compliance with NAGPRA, and consultation with 
Tribes and Alaska Native Governments. We are very appreciative of the 
Committee's continuing support for the agency to enhance its National 
Cultural Resources Information Management System (NCRIMS).
    Additionally, responsive to recommendations in the 2010 GAO report 
on NAGPRA, BLM stated at that time that nine new positions and $22 
million were needed to improve compliance. Neither of these has 
happened, and now the new NAGPRA regulations present further demands 
that BLM (and other agencies as well as Tribes) are not equipped to 
meet. It is incumbent upon this Committee to provide commensurate 
resources to assist with the critical and overdue task of bringing 
ancestors home. We recommend providing specific funding of $3 million 
above enacted, specifically to continue building the vital Tribal 
Liaison Program, including the Headquarters agency lead and 12 State 
Office positions, and staffing related to NAGPRA compliance.
6. Department of Justice, Environmental Crime Section
    Add $1 million to the budget of the Environmental Crime Section 
specifically to enforce the Safeguard Tribal Objects of Patrimony Act, 
Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act, and 
Archaeological Resources Protection Act

    [This statement was submitted by Valerie J. Grussing, PhD, 
Executive Director.]
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      Prepared Statement of National Conference of State Historic 
                         Preservation Officers
Fiscal Year 2025 Historic Preservation Fund (HPF) Appropriations 
Request: $225 million

  --$70 million for State Historic Preservation Offices (SHPOs)

  --$40 million for the Save America's Treasures grant program

  --$34 million for Tribal Historic Preservation Offices (THPOs)

  --$28 million for the African American Civil Rights grant program

  --$17 million for the Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization grant 
        program

  --$13 million Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) 
        grant program

  --$11 million for the Semiquincentennial grant program

  --$7 million for the History of Equal Rights grant program

  --$5 million for the Underrepresented Community grant program
funded through withdrawals from the historic preservation fund (16 usc 
     470h), u.s. department of the interior's national park service
            unique and successful federal-state partnership
    Recognizing the importance of our National heritage, in 1966 
Congress passed the National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA, Title 54 
U.S.C. 300101 et seq), which established historic preservation as a 
priority of the Federal Government. Recognizing that State officials 
have local expertise, the act's authors directed Federal entities 
charged with its implementation--the Department of the Interior and the 
Advisory Council on Historic Preservation--to partner with the States. 
Duties delegated to the SHPOs include: 1) locating and recording 
historic resources; 2) nominating significant historic resources to the 
National Register of Historic Places; 3) cultivating historic 
preservation programs at the local government level; 4) providing funds 
for preservation activities; 5) commenting on Federal rehabilitation 
tax credit projects; 6) review of all Federal projects for their impact 
on historic properties; and 7) providing technical assistance to 
Federal agencies, State and local governments and the private sector.
    Ten years later in 1976, Congress established the Historic 
Preservation Fund (HPF) to assist the States in accomplishing this 
federally delegated work. The HPF is funded from outer-continental 
shelf lease revenues (rather than tax dollars), so that the depletion 
of one non-renewal resource can be used to help preserve another non-
renewable resource--our heritage. The States also contribute to this 
effort, matching at least 40 percent of the HPF funding they receive.
                       saving america's heritage
    The first step in preserving and protecting America's heritage is 
identifying it--which requires the survey, documentation, stewardship 
and sharing of historic place data. These places represent the many 
people and events that shape our collective national identity. Adequate 
funding is essential for SHPOs to meet these goals. For example, 
current shortfalls in funding mean that many States must continue to 
rely upon outdated paper records for a variety of program purposes. 
Having accurate, up-to-date, and digitally accessible information about 
our Nation's historic resources would dramatically increase the 
efficiency of and foster a balanced approach for all local, State, and 
Federal projects. From decisions on the design of local infill 
development, to state transportation planning projects, to Federal 
large-scale energy projects and disaster recovery efforts--every single 
project that could impact historic places, and by extension, the 
American people, benefit from enhanced and accessible historic resource 
databases.
    Directing $70 million for FY 2025 to SHPO offices will provide much 
needed operational funding to aid in increased capacity and 
efficiency--goals embraced by Congress and the Administration. With the 
recent $500 billion in new infrastructure spending nationally, SHPOs 
are in dire need of resources to operate programs as they continue to 
fulfill responsibilities to review and comment on increasing numbers of 
Federal undertakings under NHPA to fulfill their obligations towards 
protection and preservation of their States' irreplaceable historic 
places. In FY 2022, HPF funding also enabled SHPOs to review 177, 4003 
Federal undertakings--a 42.7% increase over the prior year. Likewise, 
Tribal Historic Preservation Offices (THPOs) assume many of the 
responsibilities of the SHPO on their respective Tribal lands. The 
number of THPOs continues to increase annually, requiring funding to 
keep pace with expanding needs. With over 222 THPOs currently, funding 
of $34 million for THPO offices is necessary to prevent a decrease in 
the average THPO grant.
    Once identified and documented, America's historic resources are 
primarily recognized at the local, State, and national levels by 
listing on both the National Register as well as State and local 
historic registers with varying degrees of protection, consideration, 
and recognition. State Historic Preservation Officers, through the 
authority of the National Historic Preservation Act, assist, support 
and encourage communities with their preservation efforts and are the 
gateway to listing on the National Register of Historic Places. 
National Register recognition by the Secretary of the Interior confirms 
citizens' belief in the significance of their communities' historic 
places and enhances support for their preservation.
    Allow me to underscore that the National Historic Preservation 
program is primarily one of assistance, not acquisition. The Federal 
Government does not own, manage, or maintain responsibility for the 
vast majority of the historic assets aided by the National Historic 
Preservation program. Rather, the program, through the SHPOs, provides 
individual Americans and communities, together with local, State, and 
Federal Governments with the tools they need to identify, preserve, and 
utilize the historic assets of importance to them. SHPOs are 
constituent-oriented and constituent-focused, and working closely and 
cooperatively with individual Americans to preserve historic places 
across the Nation is a fundamental role.
    HPF funds also support competitive grant programs aimed at 
protecting and promoting the Nation's historic and cultural resources, 
while furthering efforts to tell the full scope of America's history 
through recognition and preservation of irreplaceable historic places. 
As such, NCSHPO supports HPF funding of $40 million for the Save 
America's Treasures grant program; $28 million for the African American 
Civil Rights grant program; $17 million for the Paul Bruhn Historic 
Revitalization grant program to support historic preservation in rural 
communities; $13 million to assist in the preservation and 
rehabilitation of buildings on the campuses of Historically Black 
Colleges and Universities (HBCUs); $11 million to support the 
Semiquincentennial grant program to commemorate the Nation's 250th 
anniversary; $7 million for the History of Equal Rights grant program; 
and $5 million for competitive grants to identify, recognize and 
preserve the sites and stories related to Underrepresented Communities.
    The FY24 omnibus spending level for the HPF in the amount of 
$188.666 million, reflects a decrease of over $15 million from FY23, to 
the detriment of our historic and cultural assets.
         jobs, economic development & community revitalization
    Historic preservation has stimulated economic growth, promoted 
community education and pride, and rescued and rehabilitated 
significant historic resources throughout the country. By positively 
combatting the effects of blight and vacancy through respectful 
repurposing of existing historic building stock, historic preservation 
is frequently a catalyst for positive community change--resulting in 
dynamic destinations for visitors and residents alike. Further, 
preservation incentives and programs foster affordable housing and 
solutions to the challenge of environmental change.
    The Federal Rehabilitation Tax Credit (HTC) program, administered 
by the State Historic Preservation Offices in cooperation with the 
National Park Service, is an important driver for economic development. 
Since 1976, the HTC has driven completion of nearly 49,000 individual 
projects, created more than 3.2 million jobs, leveraged over $131.71 
billion in private investment nationwide, and created 199,138 low and 
moderate income housing units.\1\ On average, the HTC leverages $5 
dollars in private investment for every $1 dollar in Federal funding, 
cultivating highly effective public-private partnerships and community 
focused re-investment. 39 States currently offer a historic tax credit 
program \2\, including my own state of North Carolina. State tax credit 
programs complement the Federal HTC program incentives and provide 
additional opportunities for community revitalization and saving 
historic places for the use and enjoyment of future generations of 
Americans.
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    \1\ 2024. National Park Service, U.S. Department of the Interior, 
Technical Preservation Services. Federal Tax Incentives for 
Rehabilitating Historic Buildings Annual Report for Fiscal Year 2023.
    \2\ 2022. National Trust for Historic Preservation. Preservation & 
State Historic Tax Credits.
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    Historic preservation also stimulates economic development through 
heritage tourism. SHPOs are essential local partners in identifying and 
interpreting the historic places that attract and inspire visitors. A 
modest increase in SHPO funding would allow SHPOs to expand their 
public outreach and assistance efforts, enabling communities to take 
greater advantage of heritage tourism opportunities which lead to job 
creation, new business development and enhanced community pride.
          state historic preservation offices' accomplishments
    The HPF has facilitated nearly 100,000 listings to the National 
Register, with over 1.9 million contributing resources, and the survey 
of millions of acres for cultural resources.\3\ The HPF has also 
provided SHPOs with the administrative capacity for constituent access 
to the Federal Historic Preservation Tax Credit program, which has 
generated more than $50.3 billion in Federal tax revenue from historic 
rehabilitation projects from inception through FY 2022.\4\ Further, 
SHPO federally mandated responsibilities of project review are on the 
rise, and remain key to conscientious public consideration of how to 
balance two fundamental needs--public investments for the future and 
preservation of America's historic places.
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    \3\ 2024. National Park Service. Historic Preservation Fund Annual 
Report FY23.
    \4\ 2024. Rutgers & National Park Service. Annual Report on the 
Economic Impact of the Federal Historic Tax Credits for Fiscal Year 
2022.
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    Many SHPOs have made extensive use of HPF grant programs to ensure 
preservation of sites associated with the Civil Rights Movement. In 
North Carolina, in recent years, we have applied for and received 
grants under several of these grant programs. A 2015 Underrepresented 
Communities grant yielded National Register nominations and listings 
for eight Rosenwald School nominations, two historic African American 
cemeteries, and the College Heights Historic District, which is 
associated with the HBCU North Carolina Central University; a 2022 
Underrepresented Communities grant will focus on survey and 
identification and National Register nominations of surviving Green 
Books properties--telling the story of individual resilience during the 
Segregation era as ``oasis places'' for African American travelers. A 
2020 Civil Rights Phase I grant was finalized, and gathered invaluable 
oral histories and background research, and identified conclusively 
places associated with the Civil Right Movement in northeastern North 
Carolina; while Phase II will foster National Register nominations of 
these places. A 2022 Semiquincentennial grant provided $500,000 to the 
Brunswick Town State Historic Site, a key Colonial town and prime 
Revolutionary War site of pro-Patriot activity near Wilmington, North 
Carolina, and will be used to identify unmarked graves of colonial 
residents, preserve known graves, repoint the masonry of St. Philip's 
Anglican Church, and preserve the foundational ruins of private 
residences, a tavern and a courthouse.
                               conclusion
    Historic preservation recognizes that what was common and ordinary 
in the past is often rare and precious today, and what is common and 
ordinary today may be extraordinary, whether it is fifty, one hundred 
or five hundred years from now. But moreover, historic preservation 
elevates and promotes the value of the lives and stories of individual 
Americans through the places where they lived and worked, fulfilling 
one of the fundamental purposes of the National Historic Preservation 
Act: ``that the historical and cultural foundations of the Nation 
should be preserved as a living part of our community life and 
development in order to give a sense of orientation to the American 
people.''
    The national network of State Historic Preservation Offices helps 
to ensure that the places associated with the history of all Americans 
are recognized and preserved. To that end, I would like to thank the 
committee sincerely for its commitment to historic preservation. The 
Federal Government plays an invaluable role in preserving our Nation's 
history and our collective sense of place. Through our partnership, 
SHPOs remain committed to working together to identify, protect, and 
maintain our Nation's heritage.
    On behalf of all 59 SHPOs, I'd like to thank you, Chairman Merkley, 
Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the U.S. Senate Committee on 
Appropriations, subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies for the opportunity to submit testimony.

    [This statement was submitted by Ramona Bartos, President.]
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     Prepared Statement of National Council of Urban Indian Health
    My name is Francys Crevier, I am an enrolled member of Algonquin 
and the Chief Executive Officer of the National Council of Urban Indian 
Health (NCUIH). On behalf of NCUIH, a national representative of the 41 
UIOs contracting with the Indian Health Service under the Indian Health 
Care Improvement Act (IHCIA) and the American Indians and Alaska Native 
patients they serve. On behalf of NCUIH and the UIOs we serve, I would 
like to thank Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members 
of the subcommittee for your leadership to improve health outcomes for 
urban Indians and for the opportunity to testify today. We respectfully 
request the following:

  --$53.85 billion for the Indian Health Service (IHS) and $965.3 
        million for Urban Indian Health for Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 (as 
        requested by the Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup)

  --Maintain Advance Appropriations for the Indian Health Service, 
        until mandatory funding is authorized and protect IHS from 
        sequestration.

  --Reclassify Contract Support Costs and 105 (l) Tribal Lease Payments 
        as Mandatory Appropriations
                   ncuih supports tribal sovereignty
    First, I would like to emphasize that NCUIH respects and supports 
Tribal sovereignty and the unique government-to-government relationship 
between our Tribal Nations and the United States. NCUIH works to 
support those Federal laws, policies, and procedures that respect and 
uplift Tribal sovereignty and the government-to-government 
relationship. NCUIH does not support any Federal law, policy, or 
procedure that infringes upon, or in any way diminishes, Tribal 
sovereignty or the government-to-government relationship.
  urban indian organizations play a critical role in providing health 
           care for american indian and alaska native people
    UIOs were created by urban American Indian and Alaska Native 
people, with the support of Tribal leaders, starting in the 1950s in 
response to severe problems with health, education, employment, and 
housing caused by the Federal Government's forced relocation 
policies.\1\ Congress formally incorporated UIOs into the Indian Health 
System in 1976 with the passage of IHCIA. Today, over 70% of American 
Indian and Alaska Native people live in urban areas. UIOs are an 
integral part of the Indian health system, comprised of the Indian 
Health Service, Tribes, and UIOs (collectively I/T/U), and provide 
essential healthcare services, including primary care, behavioral 
health, and social and community services, to patients from over 500 
Tribes \2\ in 38 urban areas across the United States. There are four 
different UIO facility types, including full ambulatory, limited 
ambulatory, outreach and referral, and outpatient and residential 
alcohol and substance abuse treatment, that offer a wide range of 
healthcare services.
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    \1\ Relocation, National Council for Urban Indian Health, 2018. 
2018_0519_Relocation.pdf(Shared)- Adobe cloud storage
    \2\ Indian Health Service, IHS National Budget Formulation Data 
Reports for Urban Indian Organizations (2023), https://www.ihs.gov/
sites/urban/themes/responsive2017/display_objects/documents/
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    UIOs are on the front lines in providing for the health and well-
being of American Indian and Alaska Native people living in urban 
areas, many of whom lack access to care that would otherwise be 
provided through IHS and Tribal facilities. American Indians and Alaska 
Native people experience major health disparities compared to the 
general U.S. populations, including, lower life expectancy,\3\ higher 
rates of infant and maternal mortality,\4\ and psychological or 
behavioral health issues.\5\ A lack of sufficient Federal funding plays 
a significant role in these continuing devastating health 
disparities,\6\ and Congress must do more to fully fund the Indian 
health system to improve health outcomes for all American Indian and 
Alaska Native people.
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    \3\ Elizabeth Arias, et. al., Provisional life expectancy estimates 
for 2021, Vital Statistics Rapid Release; no 23, National Center for 
Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National 
Vital Statistics System (Aug. 2022), available at DOI: https://
dx.doi.org/10.15620/cdc:118999.
    \4\ David C. Radley et al., The Commonwealth Fund 2023 Scorecard on 
State Health System Performance: Americans' Health Declines and Access 
to Reproductive Care Shrinks, But States Have Options, Commonwealth 
Fund (June 22, 2023), https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/
scorecard/2023/jun/2023-scorecardstate-health-system-performance; 
Jennifer L. Heck et al., Maternal Mortality Among American Indian/
Alaska Native Women: A Scoping Review, 30 J. of Women's Health 220, 225 
(2021), https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/epdf/10.1089/jwh.2020.8890.
    \5\ Letter from National Council of Urban Indian Health, National 
Indian Health Board, Self-Governance Communication and Education Tribal 
Consortium, & United South and Eastern Tribes Sovereignty Protection 
Fund, to Shalanda Young, Director, Office of Management and Budget 
(Feb. 17, 2023), https://www.usetinc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/
Joint-Tribal-Organization-Letter-to-OMB-re-Native-Behavioral-Health-
Resources-Program-FINAL2_17_23.pdf.
    \6\ U.S. Comm'n on Civil Rights, Broken Promises: Continuing 
Federal Funding Shortfall for Native Americans (Dec. 2018), available 
at: https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/2018/12-20-Broken-Promises.pdf; 
The National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup, Advancing Health 
Equity Through the Federal Trust Responsibility: Full Mandatory Funding 
for the Indian Health Service and Strengthening Nation-to-Nation 
Relationships, The National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup's 
Recommendations on the Indian Health Service Fiscal Year 2024 Budget 17 
(May 2022), available at: https://www.nihb.org/docs/09072022/
FY%202024%20Tribal%20Budget%20Formulation%20Workgroup%20Recommendations.
pdf.
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   update: urban indian organization infrastructure study report to 
                                congress
    Congress appropriated funds in the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 
2021 (Pub. L. No. 116-260), for IHS to conduct an infrastructure study 
report on UIO facilities. The report, sent to Congress on February 22, 
2024, highlights key metrics that will need to be met in order to 
appropriately meet the needs of UIOs and their patients. The report 
found that to meet the 2032 vision of services for American Indian and 
Alaska Native people living in urban areas, UIOs will need to grow 
their staff from 3,420 full-time equivalents (FTEs) to 6,275 FTEs, a 78 
percent increase and operating budgets will need to increase to $1.37 
billion.\7\ We thank the Committee for funding this critical report, 
and we look forward to working with you in addressing the needs 
highlighted by the report.
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    \7\ IHS, Urban Indian Organization Infrastructure Study Report. 
Retrieved from: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CMR-HE20_300-
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  request: fully fund the indian health service at $53.85 billion and 
             urban indian health at $965.3 million for fy25
    The United States has a trust responsibility to provide ``federal 
health services to maintain and improve the health'' of American Indian 
and Alaska Native people.\8\ This responsibility is codified in IHCIA. 
Additionally, it is the policy of the United States ``to ensure the 
highest possible health status for Indians and urban Indians and to 
provide all resources necessary to effect that policy.'' \9\ To finally 
fulfill its trust responsibility, we request that Congress fully fund 
Indian Health at $53.85 billion for the Indian Health Service and 
$965.3 million for Urban Indian Health. These amounts reflect the 
recommendations made by the Tribal Budget Formulation Work Group 
(TBFWG), a workgroup comprised of Tribal leaders representing all 12 
IHS service areas and serving all 574 federally recognized Tribes.
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    \9\ 25 U.S.C Sec. 1602.
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    According to the TBFWG, fulfillment of this responsibility 
``remain[s] illusory due to chronically underfunded and woefully 
inadequate annual spending by Congress.\10\ Congress must prioritize 
increasing funding, as the current FY24 allocation of $6.96 billion for 
IHS and $90.49 million for Urban Indian Health represents only 12.9% 
and 9.4% respectively of the total FY24 funding requested by Tribes and 
UIOs to adequately address current needs.
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    \10\ The National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup, Honor Trust 
and Treaty Obligations: A Tribal Budget Request to Address the Tribal 
Health Inequity Crisis, The National Tribal Budget Formulation 
Workgroup's Recommendations on the Indian Health Service Fiscal Year 
2025 Budget (April 2023), available at: https://www.nihb.org/resources/
FY2025%20IHS%20 
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    UIOs are primarily funded through a single line item in the IHS 
budget, the Urban Indian Health line item, and without a significant 
increase to this line item, UIOs will continue to be forced to operate 
on limited and inflexible budgets, that limit their ability to fully 
address the needs of their patients. As one UIO leader highlighted, 
``funding to the Urban Indian line item is critical in ensuring that 
our funding better meets the needs of Urban Tribal citizens who come to 
us seeking medical, dental, and behavioral health care. Increased 
funding means that we can worry less about having to deny or delay care 
because of budget constraints.'' For example, current funding levels 
pose challenges for UIOs in offering competitive salaries to hire and 
retain qualified staff who are essential for UIOs to continue to 
deliver quality care to their patients. Additionally, UIOs need 
resources to expand their services and programs to address the needs of 
their communities, including addressing pressing issues such as food 
insecurity, behavioral health challenges, and rising facilities costs. 
One UIO reported, ``increased funding will allow our UIO to sustain our 
program capacity, maintain our workforce, address infrastructure needs, 
and expand health services that are greatly needed within our 
community.'' Increased investments in Urban Indian Health will continue 
to result in the expansion of health care services, increased jobs, and 
improvement of the overall health in urban American Indian and Alaska 
Native communities.
request: retain advance appropriations for ihs until mandatory funding 
            is authorized and protect ihs from sequestration
    We applaud Chair Merkley and this Committee for your work on the 
historic inclusion of advance appropriations in the FY23 Omnibus, and 
its continued inclusion in the FY24 minibus. This is a crucial step 
towards ensuring long-term, stable funding for IHS. Advance 
appropriations allowed the I/T/U system to operate normally and without 
fear of funding lapses during the entire FY24 budget negotiation 
process. Among other benefits, when IHS distributes their funding on 
time, our UIOs can pay their doctors and providers without disruption, 
ensuring continuity of care for UIO patients. Additionally, advance 
appropriations allow our UIOs to ensure they can stay open and provide 
patients with critically needed care, even in the event of a government 
shut down. We emphasize that advance appropriations are a crucial step 
towards ensuring long-term, stable funding for the I/T/U system and, 
therefore, it is imperative that you include advance appropriations for 
IHS FY26 in the final FY25 Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
Appropriations Act.
    While advance appropriations are a step in the right direction to 
avoid disruptions during government shutdowns and continuing 
resolutions, mandatory funding is the only way to assure fairness in 
funding and fulfillment of the trust responsibility. As the President's 
FY25 budget notes, ``Mandatory funding is the most appropriate, long-
term solution for adequate, stable, and predictable funding for the 
Indian health system.'' \11\ We request your support for mandatory 
funding, and until authorizers act to move IHS to mandatory funding, we 
request you continue to provide advance appropriations to the Indian 
health system to improve certainty and stability.
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    \11\ IHS FY25Congressional Justification, https://www.ihs.gov/
sites/budgetformulation/themes/responsive2017/display_objects/
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    We also request that this Committee protect IHS from sequestration 
through an amendment to Section 255 of the Balanced Budget and 
Emergency Deficit Control Act12. Sequestration forces Indian Health 
Care Providers to make difficult decisions about the scope of 
healthcare services they can offer to American Indian and Alaska Native 
patients. For example, the sequestration of $220 million in IHS' budget 
authority for FY13 resulted in an estimated reduction of 3,000 
inpatient admissions and 804,000 outpatient visits for American Indian 
and Alaska Native patients12.
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    Sequestering funds reduces UIOs' ability to provide essential 
services to their patients and communities, delaying care and reducing 
UIO capacity to take on additional patients. One UIO leader emphasized 
that loss of funding ``translates into Tribal citizens lacking access 
to care that is guaranteed to them through the trust and treaty 
obligations held by the United States. Cuts mean UIOs can't provide 
things like insulin for diabetics, counseling services for survivors of 
domestic violence, and oral surgery for our relatives.''
  request: reclassify contract support costs and 105 (l) tribal lease 
                  payments as mandatory appropriations
    We are also in strong support of the TBFWG's proposal to reclassify 
Contract Support Costs (CSC) and Section 105(l) Tribal Lease Payments 
as mandatory appropriations. These accounts are already mandatory in 
nature, and their inclusion in the discretionary budget makes it 
difficult for other programs to expand under discretionary funding 
caps. In 2014, the Appropriations Committees highlighted the 
challenging nature of these payments, stating, ``Typically obligations 
of this name are addressed through mandatory spending, but in this case 
since they fall under discretionary spending, they have the potential 
to impact all other programs funded under the Interior and Environment 
Appropriations bill, including other equally important Tribal 
programs.'' \13\
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    \13\ Contract Support Costs and Sequestration: Fiscal Crisis in 
Indian Country: Hearings before the Senate Committee on Indian 
Affairs.(2013) (Testimony of The Honorable Yvette Roubideaux)
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    This proposal will make sure that other IHS programs are not 
impacted by these costs and can receive true increases to their line 
items. Reclassifying as mandatory appropriations will have no direct 
impact on the Federal budget and does not conflict with restrictions 
set forth by the Fiscal Responsibility Act. On July 12, 2023, NCUIH 
joined the National Indian Health Board and 21 Tribal Nations and 
Native Partner Organizations in sending a letter to House and Senate 
leadership in support of this proposal.\14\
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                               conclusion
    The Federal Government must continue to work to fulfill its trust 
obligation to maintain and improve the health of American Indians and 
Alaska Natives. We urge Congress to take this obligation seriously and 
provide the I/T/U system with the resources necessary to protect the 
lives of the entirety of the American Indian and Alaska Native 
population, regardless of where they live. The requests outlined herein 
are an important step towards fulfilling this obligation, and we 
respectfully request your consideration of each request.

    [This statement was submitted by Francys Crevier, Chief Executive 
Officer of the National Council of Urban Indian Health.]
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           Prepared Statement of National Conservation Lands
    My name is David Feinman, and I am Government Affairs Director for 
Conservation Lands Foundation, which is the only organization in the 
country solely dedicated to safeguarding the National Conservation 
Lands, the most ecologically rich and culturally significant of lands 
managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).
    This provides us with perhaps the most clear-eyed view available on 
the cumulative impacts resulting from Congress's continued underfunding 
of BLM, and I offer this testimony with respectful frustration, 
urgency, and hope that it may give the committee greater clarity on how 
the lack of appropriate funding is suffocating the agency and harming 
the public's quality of life and access to their public lands. It is 
with this perspective in mind that I urge the subcommittee to include 
at least $1.395 billion for BLM for Management of Lands and Resources, 
at least $78 million for the BLM National Conservation Lands, and at 
least $25 million for BLM's cultural resources account.
    Conservation Lands Foundation and our Friends Grassroots Network--
that we have grown to now more than 80 volunteer-powered 
organizations--are at the forefront of stewarding the National 
Conservation Lands. These community-based non-profits provide essential 
partnerships to BLM throughout the West to ensure the National 
Conservation Lands, and all lands managed by the agency, have a 
dedicated team of local volunteers to welcome and educate visitors, 
provide on-the-ground monitoring, assist both financially and via 
volunteer hours to complete recreation improvements as well as 
stewardship and restoration projects.
    Conservation Lands Foundation, our Friends Network and local 
volunteers and supporters understand public lands have multiple uses 
and respect the work of BLM staff and the incredibly complex task they 
have to fulfill the Bureau's conservation mandate and multiple-use, 
sustained yield mission under the Federal Land Policy Management Act 
(FLPMA).
    What we don't understand is how Congress can continue to demand 
more of the Bureau and criticize it for its inability to fulfill its 
Congressionally-mandated work while continually refusing to allocate 
the resources necessary to do just that.
    BLM is responsible for the largest portfolio of public lands in the 
United States, managing more than 245 million acres of land (along with 
nearly 700 million subsurface acres) while being the lowest funded 
Federal land management agency. The unique mission of the Bureau and 
the sheer size of the estate it manages make the historic deficit in 
funding from Congress even more challenging and baffling.
    We can quantitatively measure the deficit the BLM faces in two 
clear statistics: dollars per acre, and dollars per visitor.

                  DOLLARS PER ACRE: FISCAL YEAR 2023\1\
 
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                                                            DOLLAR PER
                 AGENCY                    ACRES MANAGED  ACRE ALLOCATED
                                                            BY CONGRESS
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U.S. Forest Service.....................            193M          $52.20
National Park Service...................             84M          $41.37
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service..........             89M          $19.89
Bureau of Land Management...............            248M           $6.10
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\1\ Source: Bureau of Land Management


           DOLLARS PER VISITOR: TEN-YEAR AVERAGE 2012-2021\2\
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                            DOLLAR PER
                 AGENCY                    ACRES MANAGED  ACRE ALLOCATED
                                                            BY CONGRESS
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National Park Service...................             84M           $5.20
U.S. Forest Service.....................            193M           $1.70
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service..........             89M           $1.32
Bureau of Land Management...............            248M           $0.79
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\2\ Source: Bureau of Land Management

           public access and quality experiences are at risk
    Virtually every National Conservation Land location is negatively 
impacted by Congress's lack of funding and there are countless 
qualitative measures and examples of what this deficit has meant for 
the health of the land and water sources and for the people who have a 
right to access and have quality experiences on BLM lands.
    One result of this chronic underfunding is delays and poor customer 
service for outdoor recreation visitors and guides at a time when the 
outdoor recreation economy is booming. Visitors to BLM lands continue 
to increase year over year with more than 80 million visitors in 2023 
(a 10 percent increase from previous years), and according to the U.S. 
Department of Commerce, the outdoor recreation economy increased 4.8 
percent in 2022, compared with a 1.9 percent increase for the overall 
U.S. economy.\3\
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    \3\ ``Commerce's Bureau of Economic Analysis Reports Outdoor 
Recreation Economy Tops $1 Trillion in 2022'', U.S. Department of 
Commerce, December 15, 2023
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    Public Safety and Land and Water Degradation is a Growing Problem
    Ensuring that people are safe while on BLM lands cannot be 
overlooked as a Congressional responsibility to fund. Between 2016-2023 
there were 4,346 search and rescues on BLM lands, an average of 543 per 
year. These are straining local law enforcement budgets and increased 
BLM staff and resources on the ground will increase visitor safety and 
save lives.
    Another result of the failure by Congress to invest in the agency 
is the degradation and abuse of the public lands it manages. Across the 
system of National Conservation Lands managed by the BLM, we've seen an 
increase in vandalism and defacement of sacred sites and petroglyphs, 
illegal dumping, theft of personal and government property, poaching of 
wildlife, illegal off-highway vehicle (OHV) use, and unlawful shooting.
    The Caja del Rio Plateau in New Mexico is one of many examples. 
Located just a few miles outside of Santa Fe, the Caja del Rio Plateau 
holds deep historical value and remains vitally important to the Pueblo 
people of the middle Rio Grande. It's the most ecologically rich and 
culturally significant landscapes in the Southwest, known for 
petroglyphs dating back 8,000 years, wildlife and special status 
species, geologic features, and scenic values. The La Cieneguilla 
Petroglyph Site within it continues to be vandalized, off-highway 
vehicles are going off-trail and unchecked tearing up riverbeds, and 
graffiti on the canyon walls and trash is happening with abandon. Last 
month alone, 120 volunteers showed up to help clean-up the Caja for 
Earth Day and picked up 13,500 lbs of trash and toxic materials.
    Due to the rise in social media, these once remote and ``secret 
escapes'' no longer benefit from anonymity, and require much more 
active management from BLM, which cannot be provided without additional 
resources for rangers, outdoor recreation planners and other staff.
    Congress Holds the Power to Meet the Public's Needs
    Whether it's supporting ranchers with grazing leases, ensuring 
responsible mining operations, advancing energy production, providing 
the public with safe and accessible outdoor recreation opportunities, 
protecting cultural and paleontological resources, or managing lands 
for conservation, the Bureau of Land Management needs more funding to 
do all of this work it's been mandated by Congress to do on behalf of 
the American people.
    The American people expect the BLM to fulfill its mission and they 
expect Congress to fulfill its responsibility to provide the Bureau 
with the staffing and resources necessary to achieve it.
    It's time for Congress to invest in the Bureau of Land Management 
and do right by the American people, the public lands they cherish, and 
the public servants charged with managing them.
    Conservation Land Foundation urges Congress to take responsibility 
for the priorities and promises you have laid out to the American 
people by adequately investing in the health of and safe and quality 
access to America's public lands under BLM, and the many benefits they 
provide to communities across this great country.
    Thank you for your consideration of my testimony. Please contact me 
at davidf@conservationlands.org with any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by David Feinman, Government Affairs 
Director Conservation Lands Foundation.]
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         Prepared Statement of National Cooperators' Coalition
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide input to your FY2025 
Appropriations process. Our coalition is requesting at least $36 
million be appropriated to the U.S. Geological Survey's Cooperative 
Fish and Wildlife Research Unit program.
    The National Cooperators' Coalition is an alliance of nonfederal 
cooperators, supporters, and beneficiaries of the USGS Cooperative 
Research Unit (CRU) program. Our members include state fish and 
wildlife agencies, universities, and other organizations dedicated to 
wildlife conservation and research.
    The CRU program plays a significant role in advancing scientific 
understanding and conservation efforts for fish and wildlife across the 
United States. Cooperative Research Units are dynamic hubs for 
collaborative research that cuts across disciplines, and play a central 
role in training the next generation of conservation scientists
    The program's value is clear, as evidenced by its continuous growth 
since its inception in 1935. In FY 2023, CRUs generated $48 million in 
external funds and $22 million provided by universities. However, the 
lack of adequate Federal funding continues to limit the capacity of 
CRUs to produce actionable science and establish new units where 
they've been requested.
    The CRU program is supported by the USGS Ecosystems Mission Area. 
To empower the program to deliver on its full potential, we, the 
National Cooperators' Coalition, urge the appropriation of at least $36 
million. By investing in the CRU program, you are investing in the 
future of wildlife conservation in the United States.
    We look forward to working with you and answering any questions you 
may have about this $36 million request. Please reach out to 
ncc@wildlife.org if you have any questions.


    Sincerely,

           usgs cooperative fish and wildlife research units
    Spanning 41 States and strategically housed at 44 universities, the 
USGS Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Units (CRUs) form a 
powerful network. These units function as collaborative hubs where 
researchers, students, and stakeholders from diverse backgrounds come 
together to tackle critical challenges facing fish and wildlife 
populations.
    CRU research programs address a wide range of issues related to 
fish and wildlife conservation and management, and broader ecosystem 
health:

  --Habitat loss and fragmentation

  --Climate change impacts on fish and wildlife populations

  --Sustainable management of fisheries and wildlife resources

  --Invasive species

  --Diseases affecting fish and wildlife

  --Restoration of degraded ecosystems
Learn more about CRUs in the 2023 Annual Report: pubs.usgs.gov/
publication/fs20243006


USGS map of all 50 States showing Cooperative Fish and Wildlife 
Research Unit
(CRU) locations. Newest CRUs are indicated by a star: Nevada (Western 
Region)
 CRU, established in 2021; Michigan (Eastern Region) CRU, established 
in 2022;
and Indiana (Eastern Region) CRU, established in 2023.

    Quotes from new cooperators of the CRU program during the time of 
their establishment: ``We look forward to the tremendous opportunity 
that collaboration with the Indiana CRU will bring to our state and 
Purdue University,'' said Karen Plaut, executive vice president of 
research at Purdue University. ``It will have a direct impact on 
graduate education as well as research productivity and innovation.''
    ``For more than 30 years, the DNR has wanted to establish a USGS 
Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit at Michigan State 
University,'' said then-Michigan DNR Director Dan Eichinger. ``I'm 
excited that this goal has been achieved and look forward to scientists 
in the unit working with MSU faculty and DNR experts to help better 
inform our science-based management of Michigan's natural resources.''
    ``Nevada's creation of a Cooperative Research Unit Program is a 
monumental success for the scientific research and conservation efforts 
for the State's wildlife and habitat,'' said then-Nevada Department of 
Wildlife Director Tony Wasley. ``This partnership brings the State's 
top wildlife and research agencies together at the table and allows us 
to collaboratively address conservation and message our efforts 
consistently.''
              fy2025 appropriations request justification
    The National Cooperators' Coalition is requesting $36 million in 
FY2025 for the USGS Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit 
program. This request is a step towards ensuring the program has more 
of the funding it needs to robustly implement its mission in support of 
partners and their fish and wildlife science needs. Our coalition has 
identified more than $41 million as the current funding need for the 
program, and encourages appropriations as close to this level as 
possible. Future coalition requests will step-up to this level.
    The USGS Cooperative Research Unit program facilitates action-
oriented cooperation between the USGS, state fish and wildlife 
agencies, a host university, and the Wildlife Management Institute to 
advance fish and wildlife research, graduate education, and technical 
assistance to natural resource agencies. The National Cooperators' 
Coalition is an alliance of nonfederal cooperators, supporters, and 
beneficiaries of the USGS Cooperative Research Unit program.

Funding needed for the USGS Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit 
program:

Scientist Staffing:      $36 million

    The core of the CRU program are the staff scientists. Each unit 
typically has 3 scientists, and there are >120 scientist positions 
across the program. Funds are needed to account for growth in existing 
staff salaries, fill existing and anticipated vacancies, and fill 
positions at newly established units to fulfil Federal commitments to 
cooperators.

New Administrative Support:      +$300,000

    Units are supported by regional administrators. With the addition 
of 3 new units in the past 3 years, more administrative support is 
needed to guide the establishment of new units and enhance the 
partnerships established with each unit. Additionally, a new regional 
administrator in the Midwest will help align the Units with the 
regional associations of state fish and wildlife agencies, helping 
ensure greater levels of coordination and engagement with this key 
cooperator.

Vehicles and Equipment:      $2 million

    The program currently maintains a fleet of approximately 300 
vehicles plus other equipment (e.g., boats, ATVs, etc.) to support its 
research and operations. A substantial proportion of the fleet is more 
than 15 years old and needs to be replaced. The coalition recommends 
funding that supports replacing vehicles and other key equipment at 
least once every 10 years in order to minimize maintenance costs and 
reduce safety concerns for CRU students and staff.

Operating Expenses:      $1.5 million

    As part of the Department of the Interior, the CRU program has 
associated operating expenses to support the larger department. This 
includes costs for facilities, IT support, internal peer reviews, and 
other general programmatic costs.

Program Expansion:      +$1.2 million each

    Several States and territories have expressed an interest in 
establishing a new Unit in their borders to meet their own fish and 
wildlife science needs. This desire is indicative of the program's 
value to cooperators and partners. It takes $1.2 million to establish a 
new unit during its first fiscal year; future costs amount to approx. 
$700,000 per year to maintain that unit.

Total FY2025 Need:      >$41 million

FY2024 Enacted Level:      $28.206 million

FY2025 Request:      $36 million

    [This statement was submitted by Paul Johansen, Chair, National 
Cooperators' Coalition.]
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         Prepared Statement of National Endowment for the Arts
    As the only trade association in Washington representing all music 
creators--songwriters, performers, and studio professionals-the 
Recording Academy is pleased to offer testimony to the U.S. Senate 
Committee on Appropriations subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and 
Related Agencies in support of a continued increased funding for the 
National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) in Fiscal Year 2025 of no less 
than the $211 million. The Recording Academy is proud to support the 
NEA and its initiatives to enrich American music and culture.
    The NEA brings music and the arts to communities across the 
country, and its mission has never been more important. The agency is 
an indispensable part of the Nation's $1.1 trillion creative economy 
and is well-positioned to invest in local arts sectors in all 50 
States. As such, the Recording Academy supports increasing funding of 
the NEA for the coming fiscal year.
    Through supporting music and the arts, the NEA empowers local 
communities, improves student development, and advances cultural 
achievements. Considering that NEA grants yield more than $500 million 
in matching support-leveraging outside funds at a ratio of 9:1-it is 
financially one of the smartest investments the government can commit 
to. In the music industry, the NEA supports more than $50 million in 
music related direct grants each year-bringing music, and matching 
investments, to your back yards. From Young Audiences of Oregon, Inc. 
for arts education ($40,000, 2024) and Alaska Arts Education Consortium 
Inc. ($50,000, 2024); to the Boise Hive in Idaho (approx. $10,000, in 
2021), the Music & Ideas Festival ($10,000, 2021) and the 317 Main St 
Community Music Center in Yarmouth, Maine ($10,000 in 2022); and from 
the Van Cliburn International Piano Competition ($10,000, 2023) in Fort 
Worth to the New Haven Symphony Orchestra in Connecticut ($15,000, 
2023), the NEA has proven to support and foster local music communities 
and opportunities.
    The Recording Academy appreciates Congress's continued support of 
the NEA during recent fiscal years, but the Agency needs additional 
funding to fulfill its mission of expanding access to and participation 
in the arts. Robust funding for the NEA will ensure the agency can 
provide grants across all 50 States, while promoting more equitable 
access and reaching more diverse audiences.
    As you finalize appropriations for FY25, please make a strong 
commitment to the arts and music with robust funding for the NEA.

    [This statement was submitted by Todd Dupler, Chief Advocacy 
Officer, Recording Academy.]
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       Prepared Statement of the National Endowment for the Arts
    Thank you for providing the opportunity to submit outside witness 
testimony as you consider investments in vital Federal agencies, 
including the National Endowment for the Arts (Arts Endowment). The 
Western States Arts Federation (WESTAF), a regional partner of the Arts 
Endowment, writes to affirm the integral impact the Endowment plays in 
communities throughout the West. Through innovative programming, 
advocacy, research, technology, and grantmaking, WESTAF encourages the 
creative advancement and preservation of the arts in the West, serving 
the States and jurisdictions of Alaska, American Samoa, Arizona, 
California, Colorado, Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands, 
Guam, Hawai'i, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, 
Washington, and Wyoming. We express gratitude for Congressional support 
in funding the National Endowment for the Arts and the National 
Endowment for the Humanities in the FY 2024 Interior Appropriations 
bill at $207 million to broaden opportunities for Americans to realize 
the cultural, educational, and economic benefits of the arts and 
creativity in communities across the United States. We write to urge 
you to increase the Arts Endowment's FY 2025 budget to at least $211 
million and for Congress to maintain parity funding between the 
National Endowment for the Arts and its sister agency the National 
Endowment for the Humanities.
      supporting arts and creativity is supporting the us economy
    We know that arts and creativity strengthen our Nation. They make 
us stronger-as individuals, families, communities, States, and as a 
country. Arts, culture, and creative industries are a backbone of 
innovation, prosperity, and thriving people and places. They are also a 
major portion of the US economy. According to the BEA, in 2022 Arts and 
cultural economic activity accounted for $1.1 trillion of the US 
economy (4.3% of GDP) and over 5 million jobs. In addition, a 2024 
study commissioned by the National Assembly of State Arts Agencies 
provides strong evidence that there is a causal link between growth in 
the creative economy and overall economic growth in the US.\1\ However, 
the study also shows that growth in the overall economy does not 
necessarily lead to growth in the arts economy, which is why public 
investment in arts is vital. Choosing to invest in the arts is choosing 
to invest in US economic growth.
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    \1\ Noonan, D. (2024). Arts and Creativity Drive Economies and 
Build Resilience: 2024 Key Findings. NASAA. https://nasaa-arts.org/
nasaa_research/arts-and-creativity-drive-economies-and-build-
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    Because of the leadership of Congress, an increase will mean 
expanded investment in arts and culture across the US driven by 
decisions made at the community level. The structure of the Arts 
Endowment is focused on a local control model. By mandate, 40% of the 
agency's grantmaking budget is awarded to state and regional arts 
agencies. We further request you to support the sector by allowing the 
Arts Endowment to continue to provide more types of flexible funding, 
such as general operating support, within the scope of its grantmaking.
    We deeply understand the importance of the Arts Endowment's 
leadership in the West and would like to point out the following:

1. The Arts Endowment is a significant funder and a positive force for 
    arts development in the West, a fast growing and exceptionally 
    diverse region that is home to nearly a quarter of the U.S. 
    population.

2. Arts Endowment investment reaches every congressional district in 
    the West and throughout the United States. Public support is a 
    critical component in ensuring that arts funding reaches every 
    community in the U.S.

3. Investment is particularly critical to the most rural States and 
    jurisdictions. Rural communities make up a significant portion of 
    the WESTAF region and are home to nearly 20% of the people in the 
    US. Yet, rural communities receive only 7% of US private foundation 
    funding.\2\ Public support of arts and culture in these areas is 
    critical and an important strategy of community and economic 
    development.
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    \2\ Ford Family Foundation. (2021). Investing in Rural Prosperity: 
The Role of Philanthropy in Rural Community Development. Federal 
Reserve Bank of St. Louis. https://www.stlouisfed.org/community-
development/publications/invest-in-rural

4. Federal-state partnership is vital to the WESTAF region. Four 
    States, American Samoa, Guam, and CNMI receive over a third of 
    their agency funds from the National Endowment for the Arts. State 
    and jurisdictional arts agencies are crucial in ensuring that 
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    public funds are distributed to local and rural communities.

5. Every dollar of Federal funding invested in the National Endowment 
    for the Arts leverages $9 of additional funding nationally. 
    Investment into state arts agencies in our region alone provides a 
    nearly 7:1 return on investment based on 2024 data (see table 
    below). In addition to leveraging significant State and local 
    government dollars, Arts Endowment funding allows some 
    organizations to access additional investment from private 
    foundations.

                  Arts Endowment Contribution to State Arts Agency Revenue in the West in FY24
 
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                                                                                       Arts         % of Total
                              State                                Total Agency      Endowment     Funding from
                                                                    Revenue ($)      funds ($)    Arts Endowment
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Alaska..........................................................      $4,147,702        $874,002           21.1%
American Samoa..................................................        $540,695        $373,695           69.1%
Arizona.........................................................      $7,572,787      $1,136,787           15.0%
California......................................................     $40,923,900      $1,579,900            3.9%
Colorado........................................................      $3,121,031        $943,331           30.2%
Guam............................................................        $964,854        $378,700           39.2%
Hawai'i.........................................................     $11,238,035        $907,500            8.1%
Idaho...........................................................      $1,999,490      $1,002,155           50.1%
Montana.........................................................      $2,341,337      $1,074,400           45.9%
Nevada..........................................................      $3,262,440        $934,200           28.6%
New Mexico......................................................      $2,636,700        $918,600           34.8%
Northern Marianas...............................................        $631,054        $350,800           55.6%
Oregon..........................................................      $7,773,127      $1,016,100           13.1%
Utah............................................................     $10,635,339        $964,500            9.1%
Washington......................................................     $11,164,822      $1,110,200            9.9%
Wyoming.........................................................      $2,047,728        $899,978           44.0%
WESTAF region...................................................    $111,001,041     $14,464,848          29.86%
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Source: National Assembly of State Arts Agencies, 2024

    The Arts Endowment invests in projects that represent communities 
in the West and its support has been particularly important to engaging 
rural communities, indigenous communities, young people, and the full 
range of communities and cultures that make up the West in terms of 
race and ethnicity. The Endowment's long-standing focus on the 
underserved, prompted in part by Congressional leadership, inspires the 
work of state arts agencies across the West and WESTAF.
 supporting the endowment as supporting the creative economy ecosystem
    Arts and creativity are an engine for the US economy. In the West, 
jobs in creative occupations, creative industries earnings, and 
cultural nonprofit revenues have been on a growth trajectory for a 
decade. The National Endowment for the Arts acts as the flag bearer for 
this powerful national industry which in the West alone grew by 85% 
between 2011 and 2020.\3\ When looking at the value added across the US 
economy in 2022, arts and culture is ranked second among comparison 
sectors.\4\
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    \3\ WESTAF. Creative Vitality Suite. (2022).
    \4\ Noonan, D. (2024).
    
    
    Arts, culture, and creative industries provide people with the 
foundation for creative thinking, generate new ideas in every field, 
and keep our Nation globally competitive. Arts and creativity 
strengthen economic health by creating jobs in multiple industries, 
driving tourism, and providing workforce development opportunities for 
young people. Unlike conventional industries, the arts tend to grow 
independently from other sectors, which provides a diversification 
strength-something that may be especially important for States whose 
economic fortunes hinge on just a few industries. States with varied 
arts ecosystems (including nonprofit, commercial, and community-based 
arts) posted bigger economic gains after the Great Recession than their 
less-diversified neighbors. In addition, growth is not restricted to 
States with large populations and high concentrations of creative 
businesses, smaller States also experience notable growth on a per 
capita basis.\5\ Creativity stimulates economic development while 
bolstering civic engagement, making the arts a powerful catalyst for 
building community and economic strength.
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    \5\ Noonan, D. (2024).
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    Public funding for arts and creativity improves the lives of all 
Americans, equips an innovative workforce, and enriches communities. 
Public support in the arts is important because it fuels innovative 
public-private partnerships, leverages considerable additional public 
and private investment far surpassing the required Federal match of 
1:1, and puts tax dollars and decision-making authority into State and 
local hands. We encourage the House Interior Appropriations 
subcommittee to work with other Congressional leaders to increase the 
Arts Endowment's FY 2025 budget to at least $211 million and build a 
specific path to fund the Arts Endowment at $1 per capita. Currently 
funding is at about $0.62 cents per capita. A more robust NEA budget 
would ensure that the arts continue to contribute to the strength, 
pride, cohesion and economic success of every community in the United 
States.

Sincerely,
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    Teniqua Broughton            Christian Gaines        David Holland
    Chair                         Executive Director       Deputy 
Director

Endorsed by:
Regional Organization
Western Arts Advocacy Network
Co-Chairs: Andrew Schneider (Wyoming), Jessi Wasson (Washington)

State-Wide Organizations
Arizona Citizens for the Arts
CA Arts Advocates
Creative New Mexico
Hawai'i Arts Alliance
Inspire Washington
Montana Arts Council
Utah Cultural Alliance
Wyoming Arts Alliance

    [This statement was submitted by David Holland, Deputy Director, 
Western States Arts Federation in support of the National Endowment for 
the Arts.]
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  Prepared Statement of National Endowment for the Arts and National 
                      Endowment for the Humanities
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee. Thank you for the opportunity to submit this written 
testimony in support of Federal funding for both the National Endowment 
for the Arts (NEA) and the National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) 
at no less than $211 million each for Fiscal Year 2025. This represents 
only 0.006 % of last year's Federal budget. We also encourage the 
subcommittee to build a specific path to index funding for each of 
these two cultural agencies at $1 per capita. Each agency is currently 
funded at about .62 cents per capita.
    The arts are a national asset, and these agencies are vital to a 
thriving arts and culture sector which in turn positively affects the 
American economy as a whole. It has been a tough budget environment, 
but the arts community is thankful for this subcommittee's leadership 
as well as the entire Senate for its continued support.
    The arts and culture help drive our creative economy which is a 
primer to our country's economic activity. Last March, the U.S. Bureau 
of Economic Analysis reported that arts and cultural economic activity 
accounted for 4.3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), or $1.10 
trillion with over 5.2 million jobs. Additionally, America's arts and 
culture exports increased the trade surplus from $15.5 billion to $21 
billion. This data represents a new high-water mark that represents a 
larger percentage of GDP than the transportation, construction, and 
agriculture sectors.
    Furthermore, the nonprofit arts sector generated $151.7 billion in 
direct spending by organizations and attendees and $29.1 billion in tax 
revenue in 2022. The nonprofit arts sector also supported 2.6 million 
jobs and provided $101 billion in personal income to workers in 
communities across America, clearly demonstrating that the arts are an 
asset to the economy.
    The resilience of an artist is evident by these statistics, and the 
NEA and NEH have helped provide resources to support their creativity 
and work ethic. Every NEA grant dollar leverages at least $9 in private 
and other public funds, generating more than $500 million in matching 
support. This leveraging power far surpasses the required non-federal 
match of at least 1:1 and illustrates why Federal support for the arts 
is uniquely valuable. The Federal investment in the arts helps power 
the creative economy across the country.
    42% of NEA-supported activities take place in high-poverty 
neighborhoods, and 35% of NEA grants went to organizations that reach 
underserved populations such as people with disabilities and 
individuals in institutions. The NEA also funds school- and community-
based programs that have helped children and youth navigate a mental 
health crisis exacerbated by the pandemic.
    The NEA's funding to Local Arts Agencies (LAAs) is extremely vital 
to their ability to serve their communities. LAAs collectively are 
responsible for approximately $912 million annually in public and 
private grantmaking. They are also the largest grantmaker to individual 
artists. LAAs work directly for and with mayors, city managers, county 
supervisors, and township managers as well as corporate CEOs, real 
estate developers, and social service providers in every size community 
across the country. Additionally, LAAs have taken the lead in equity-
centered grantmaking in their cities, counties, and rural and suburban 
areas. They have been entrusted with federal, State, and local funds, 
including Community Development Block grants, CARES Act and American 
Rescue Plan Act State and local block grant funds, and other government 
sources to support emergency relief grants to arts small businesses, 
nonprofits, individual gig artists, and entrepreneurs.
    Both agencies offer healing programs for those who serve in our 
Armed Services as well as veterans reintegrating into civilian life. 
The NEH's Dialogues on the Experience of War programs bring together 
veterans and civilians to reflect on powerful literature and art. 
Across nine programs assessed from 2018-2020 by the National Humanities 
Alliance, ninety-six percent of respondents indicated that humanities 
materials helped them better understand their experiences. Seventy-nine 
percent of veteran respondents indicated that their program made them 
more likely to seek help if they needed it.
    The NEA's Creative Forces program supports military families, a 
collaboration with the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs, to 
serve the unique and special needs of military patients and Veterans 
diagnosed with traumatic brain injury (TBI) and psychological health 
conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). In clinical 
settings, creative arts therapists provide art, music, and dance/
movement therapies, as well as therapeutic writing instruction, for 
military patients and veterans. The NEA also provides community 
engagement services by partnering with nonprofit organizations to 
provide arts-based programming for military communities.
    Understanding our country's current environment that requires a 
focus on wellness and mental health, the NEA continues to provide sound 
leadership on arts and healing throughout our Federal agencies and our 
society. In January, the NEA and the White House hosted a first-ever 
summit that recognized the profound impact that arts and culture play 
in shaping our lives, communities, and nation. At this event, NEA Chair 
Maria Rosario Jackson moderated a conversation with the U.S. Surgeon 
General, Vice Admiral Vivek Murthy, about the importance of broadening 
the concept of healing to include our need for joy, social connection 
and hope. Murthy highlighted how arts and culture are critical ways in 
which we connect and essential tools for rebuilding the social 
infrastructure to address the Nation's epidemic of isolation and 
loneliness and the mental health crisis that young people are facing. 
With the NEA's leadership, more work is necessary through interagency 
partnerships to help solve this epidemic.
    The arts and humanities touch Americans in so many different ways, 
and its two cultural agencies provide the leadership necessary to help 
sustain livable communities for us and our children. Thank you for your 
consideration of Federal funding for both the National Endowment for 
the Arts (NEA) and National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) at no 
less than $211 million each for FY 2025. We also encourage the 
subcommittee to build a specific path to index funding for each of 
these two cultural agencies at $1 per capita.
    Americans for the Arts is the leading nonprofit organization for 
advancing the arts and arts education in America. We have more than 60 
years of service and are dedicated to representing and serving the more 
than 4,500 local arts agencies in every State. Together we work to 
ensure that every American has access to the transformative power of 
the arts.

    [This statement was submitted by General Nolen Bivens (U.S. Army 
Ret.), President and CEO.]
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    Prepared Statement of the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation
    Thank you for your longstanding support of the National Fish and 
Wildlife Foundation (NFWF). Created by Congress in 1984, NFWF works to 
sustain, restore, and enhance the Nation's fish, wildlife, plants and 
habitats for current and future generations. Many NFWF conservation 
outcomes also enhance nature-based infrastructure that protects 
communities from the impacts of flooding, sea level rise, drought, 
wildfire, and other natural threats. We appreciate Congress's continued 
bipartisan support for the Foundation and its many programs across the 
country.
    Congress provides Federal funding to NFWF that NFWF leverages with 
non-federal funds to increase conservation benefits across the country. 
NFWF applies 100% of the appropriated funding towards on-the-ground 
conservation projects and does not cover any administrative costs with 
these funds. These funds support many NFWF conservation programs, 
including the Monarch Butterly and Pollinators Conservation Fund that 
supports work that advances the conservation of the monarch butterfly 
and other at-risk native insect pollinators, and the Alaska Fish and 
Wildlife Fund that furthers conservation of species and habitat while 
supporting communities responding to challenges presented by changing 
climate and land use in Alaska.
    The Foundation appreciates the subcommittee's past support and 
respectfully requests that the subcommittee recommend the following 
funding levels for Fiscal Year 2025:

  --$3.0 million provided through the Bureau of Land Management's 
        Management of Lands and Resources appropriation. We also ask 
        that the subcommittee restore the bill text appropriating BLM 
        funds to NFWF to administer in support of BLM's wildlife 
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    \1\ Prior to the FY18 spending bill, the appropriations language 
required BLM to provide NFWF the full amount of appropriated funds. The 
FY18 appropriation bill changed the law by making the provision of 
funds to NFWF the discretion of the Director of the BLM and removed the 
language from the bill which has hindered the two organizations' 
ability to partner in the most effective manner. We request that the 
FY17 bill language be restored in the FY25 bill.

  --$7.032 million provided through the U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
        Service's Resource Management appropriation which would be a 
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        return to FY23 level and;

  --$3.0 million provided through the Forest Service's National Forest 
        System appropriation (same funding level as FY 2024).
                       bureau of land management
    The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has partnered with NFWF for 
more than two decades to further conservation efforts on BLM lands 
throughout the United States. The benefits this partnership provides 
have decreased over the last 5 years, however, as the amount of funding 
provided for species conservation efforts on BLM lands has decreased. 
For FY2023, NFWF received $2,200,000 from BLM which was a decrease from 
the FY2022 allocation of $3 million. For FY2021, NFWF received 
$800,000. This fluctuating amount of funding creates a lack of 
certainty for how NFWF can direct Federal funds consistently to 
conservation programs and is the primary reason we are requesting a 
return to the FY 2017 language that would provide $3 million on an 
annual basis.
    NFWF continues to administer programs that benefit BLM lands 
despite inconsistent amounts of funding. NFWF is focusing the BLM 
funding within just a few programs where it can have the greatest 
impact and conservation value. The primary program is the Western Big 
Game Seasonal Habitat and Migration Corridors Fund which was created by 
Secretarial Order 3362 that conserves habitat and migration corridors 
to maintain healthy populations of migratory animals. NFWF works with 
private landowners, state game and fish agencies and other entities to 
utilize a voluntary approach that will have the greatest project 
efficiency and return on investment. Last year NFWF awarded nearly $1.6 
million of BLM funds to projects through this program. To date, the 
program has awarded $18.6 million across 76 projects, leveraging $81.1 
million in matching contributions to generate a total conservation 
impact of more than $99.7 million. With the Federal funding NFWF 
receives we generate significant private match funding to further the 
impact of Federal funds. The Foundation urges the subcommittee to 
consider restoring earlier funding levels to enable the Foundation to 
continue its conservation work.

    Requested restoration of FY17 BLM Bill Language for FY 2025:

        ``; of which $3,000,000 shall be available in fiscal year 2025 
        subject to a match by at least an equal amount by the National 
        Fish and Wildlife Foundation for cost shared projects 
        supporting conservation of Bureau lands; and such funds shall 
        be advanced to the Foundation as a lump-sum without regard to 
        when expenses are incurred.''
                united states fish and wildlife service
    The United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) has been a 
trusted partner since NFWF was created by Congress in 1984. Since FY 
2020, NFWF has allocated over $21 million in FWS appropriated funds 
across 213 projects leveraging an additional $80 million in additional 
funding, for a total conservation impact of $101 million. The funds 
appropriated to NFWF enable the Foundation to attract private sector 
funds and enable the Foundation to strengthen public-private 
partnerships critical to restoring fish, wildlife, eco-system 
restoration, improving aquatic passage, addressing climate change, and 
increasing natural processes for immediate carbon sequestration.
    The annual appropriation of $7,032,000 which was reduced to 
$5,500,000 in FY24 provides critically important funding that NFWF uses 
to fully support some conservation programs and to fill important 
funding gaps in other conservation programs. The approximately $1.5 
million reduction in funding in FY24 will lessen NFWF's ability to 
support various conservation programs across the country, including 
some programs solely reliant upon this appropriations funding. For 
example, the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Fund (Alaska Fund) is fully 
dependent on FWS appropriated funds and United States Forest Service 
(USFS) appropriated funds. For FY23, NFWF directed $300,000 of 
appropriated FWS funds to the Alaska Fund but to continue this funding 
level for the Alaska Fund will require NFWF to decrease funding for 
other conservation programs that rely in part on these appropriated 
dollars. The FWS appropriated funds also provide NFWF with flexible 
funding that is used to support a myriad of programs such as Klamath 
Basin Restoration, efforts to combat white-nosed syndrome in bats, 
conservation of Monarch butterfly habitat, and fish passage.
    The Foundation appreciates the subcommittee's past support and 
respectfully requests that the subcommittee recommend the following 
funding level for the FY2025 bill:

    Requested FWS Bill Language for FY 2025:

        ``; of which $7,032,000 shall be available in fiscal year 2025 
        subject to a match by at least an equal amount by the National 
        Fish and Wildlife Foundation for cost-shared projects 
        supporting conservation of wildlife and other natural 
        resources; and such funds shall be advanced to the Foundation 
        as a lump-sum grant without regard to when expenses are 
        incurred.''
                      united states forest service
    Congress has appropriated approximately $3 million in annual 
funding to NFWF for partnerships with the United States Forest Service 
(USFS) since FY 1998. Since FY2020, NFWF has leveraged $15.0M in USFS 
appropriated funds across 150 projects into a total of $68.5 million in 
on-the-ground conservation impact. We respectfully request that the 
Committee continue supporting this cost-effective partnership. These 
USFS funds also support programs such as the Western Big Game Seasonal 
Habitat and Migration Corridors Program, the Northeast Forests and 
Rivers Fund, the Southwest Rivers Headwaters Fund which focuses on 
restoring, protecting, and enhancing aquatic and riparian species and 
their habitats in the headwaters of the Rio Grande and Colorado River 
watersheds, and the Alaska Fish and Wildlife Fund for habitat 
restoration benefitting salmon in southeast Alaska.

    Retain US Forest Service Language for FY 25 as with previous years:

        ``Pursuant to section 2(b)(2) of Public Law 98-244, up to 
        $3,000,000 of the funds available to the Forest Service may be 
        advanced to the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation in a lump 
        sum to aid cost-share conservation projects, without regard to 
        when expenses are incurred, on or benefitting National Forest 
        System lands or related to Forest Service programs: Provided, 
        That such funds shall be matched on at least a one-for-one 
        basis by the Foundation or its sub-recipients: Provided 
        further, That the Foundation may transfer Federal funds to a 
        Federal or non-Federal recipient for a project at the same rate 
        that the recipient has obtained the non-Federal matching 
        funds.''
                    environmental protection agency
    NFWF has partnered with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 
since FY 1997 to make grants to States and other grantees within the 
Geographic Programs appropriation. Therefore, we respectfully support 
the highest possible funding levels for the Great Lakes Restoration 
Initiative, Chesapeake Bay, Gulf of Mexico, and Long Island Sound 
within the EPA Geographic Programs. We also respectfully ask that the 
long-standing report language that delineates the amount of funding for 
nutrient and sediment removal grants and small watershed grants within 
the Chesapeake Bay program be continued (U.S. Senate approved FY 2024 
report language is below). Last year NFWF, through its Innovative 
Nutrient and Sediment Reduction Fund and Small Watershed Grant Fund 
which together award most of the funding for NFWF's Chesapeake Bay 
Stewardship Fund, collectively awarded $43.7m across 92 projects that 
leveraged $44.1m of matching funds to create nearly $87.9m for on the 
ground conservation impact.

    The Foundation appreciates the subcommittee's past support and 
respectfully requests that the subcommittee recommend the following 
report language in the FY2025 bill:

        Chesapeake Bay.--The Committee recommends $93,000,000 for the 
        Chesapeake Bay program. From the total amount provided, at 
        least $10,000,000 is for nutrient and sediment removal grants, 
        at least $10,000,000 is for small watershed grants to control 
        polluted runoff from urban, suburban and agricultural lands, 
        and at least $8,000,000 is for State-based implementation in 
        the most effective basins.
                            nfwf background
    NFWF was established by Congress in 1984 to catalyze private 
investments to conserve fish, wildlife and their habitats. NFWF raises 
private funds not only to leverage appropriated dollars, but also to 
support the associated management costs of implementing the 
appropriated funds. Since its creation by Congress in 1984, NFWF and 
its partners have funded more than 22,100 grants and supported more 
than 6,800 grantee organizations. The Foundation's investments since 
its founding have leveraged matching contributions from grantees and 
other partners to generate a total conservation impact of $10 billion.
    NFWF remains fully transparent and is required by law to notify 
Congress 30 days in advance of every grant that exceeds $10,000 in 
Federal funds. Details of all projects awarded during FY 2023 can be 
found in NFWF's annual investment guide and all NFWF's grants can be 
found on our website: https://www.nfwf.org/grants/grants-library
    In FY 2023, NFWF was audited by an independent accounting firm and 
issued an unqualified report with no material weaknesses identified and 
no deficiencies identified. This is the FIFTEENTH consecutive year of 
unqualified audits. In addition, NFWF has continually qualified as a 
low-risk auditee under OMB guidelines.
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and members of the 
subcommittee, we greatly appreciate your continued support and stand 
ready to answer any questions you or your staff might have.

    [This statement was submitted by Will Heaton, Director, External 
Relations.]
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         Prepared Statement of the National Humanities Alliance
                                overview
    For FY 2025, we respectfully urge the subcommittee to consider no 
less than $211 million for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
    While we recognize the difficult choices that are before this 
subcommittee, we believe that expanding the capacity of the NEH is 
essential at this moment in the Nation's history, when the humanities 
are so needed to 1) build strong communities and foster civic dialogue; 
2) preserve cultural heritage, including Indigenous languages; 3) 
cultivate knowledge of world histories and cultures; and 4) shore up 
local tourism economies and community institutions.
    The NEH has a clear track record of supporting programs that work 
towards these ends, and additional capacity is needed to ensure that 
these crucial goals are met around the country. The NEH does not have 
the capacity to fund many of the highly rated proposals it receives-in 
FY 2023, 784 applications with high ratings were not funded, amounting 
to a total of $67,082,488.
        building strong communities and fostering civic dialogue
    NEH funding builds strong, civically-engaged communities through 
its support of cultural organizations. The agency's grantmaking helps 
establish and sustain robust community institutions, providing 
opportunities for learning, empathy, and understanding. The 
International Storytelling Center in Jonesborough, Tennessee, regularly 
hosts programs that promote discussion and dialogue. Ninety-three 
percent of respondents to an NHA survey indicated that they were 
``motivated to listen to the stories of people whose background was 
different from their own'' after participating in a program featuring 
the stories of Black Appalachians. Meanwhile, Dialogues on the 
Experiences of War grants strengthen communities by offering veterans 
the chance to reflect upon their experiences while building bonds with 
each other and with civilians. Ninety-nine percent of respondents 
across eight programs reported a desire to ``keep in touch with some of 
the people [they] met during the program.'' Programs have been held 
throughout the U.S. and are tailored to local audiences. In California, 
San Francisco's Chinese Historical Society of America is hosting a 
program on Chinese American Veteran experiences, while Cal Poly 
Pomona's program featured California voices more broadly. In Maryland, 
Bowie State University's program brings together ROTC cadets, student 
Veterans, and Veterans from the broader community, while a 2017 program 
hosted by the University of Maryland was designed for women Veterans.
    NEH funding has an especially outsized role in small and rural 
communities, where it can build and support the infrastructure and 
programs that are vital to strong communities. Foundational support 
from the NEH has enabled Bend, Oregon's High Desert Museum to create 
engaging exhibitions and programs that showcase the region's diverse 
history. Recently, NEH funding has helped the museum strengthen 
relationships with and support for local Indigenous populations. In 
Matewan, West Virginia, NEH funding has proven transformative for the 
grassroots Mine Wars Museum, enabling it to hire staff, engage with 
partners and stakeholders, and create events for the local community 
that explore the region's significance to U.S labor history and the 
struggle to unionize the southern coalfields. And in Red Cloud, 
Nebraska, NEH funding helped the Willa Cather Foundation expand its 
facilities and programming, having a robust impact on the rural town of 
1,000 as both an employer and as an educational and cultural center 
that hosts theatrical adaptations on Cather's work, children's film 
screenings, and an annual conference.
      preserving cultural heritage, including indigenous languages
    Our cultural heritage lives in many forms, from presidential 
letters and great works of art to community archives and endangered 
languages. It is also vulnerable and requires protection from natural 
and man-made disasters as well as decay over time. NEH funding is 
indispensable to ensuring that our cultural heritage is both accessible 
now and preserved for future generations. The NEH funds documentary 
editions that make the papers of significant Americans accessible-from 
The Papers of John Adams and Civil War Governors of Kentucky to New 
Mexico's Amador Family Correspondence, 1856-1949. In a partnership with 
the Library of Congress, the agency's Chronicling America program is 
digitizing the historic newspapers of every State. And the NEH helps 
small and mid-size institutions invest in their own preservation needs. 
Institutions such as Dothan, Alabama's Wiregrass Museum of Art and the 
Stillwater Public Library in Oklahoma have used NEH funds to help 
ensure their collections are protected for the future.
    Funding for documenting traditional cultures and endangered 
languages supports Indigenous people throughout the United States. 
Through the Dynamic Language Infrastructure-Documenting Endangered 
Languages (DEL) program, a partnership with the National Science 
Foundation, NEH funding has preserved and made accessible languages 
spoken by Indigenous communities, having a profound impact on their way 
of life. In North Dakota, DEL grants have supported Sitting Bull 
College's Standing Rock Lakota/Dakota Language Project, including funds 
for a Master-Apprentice Language Learning Program and to expand an 
accessible digital language archive. NEH support for the Coeur d'Alene 
Online Language Resource Center helped create a single, searchable 
repository for a wide range of language resources, from dictionaries to 
archival recordings of personal narratives and coyote stories. The NEH 
additionally supports the documentation and revitalization of 
Indigenous American languages through its regular grant programs.
          cultivating knowledge of world history and cultures
    Established in the midst of the Cold War, the NEH has always 
provided funding to support research and programs that help Americans 
understand and engage with timely world issues. From scholarly 
exchanges with the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe and language 
institutes in the 1970s to international research support for American 
scholars and professional development for schoolteachers today, NEH 
funding supports efforts to understand other nations' languages, 
cultures, and geopolitical contexts. NEH funding has supported the 
research and publication of books such as Treason in Transit: Soviet 
Defectors and the Borders of the Cold War World (2022), by Erik R. 
Scott, and Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe, 1944-1956 
(2013)-among many other works of history that shed light on current 
events. NEH-supported English translations of Ukrainian literature, 
including Words for War: New Poems from Ukraine (2017) and The White 
Chalk of Days: The Contemporary Ukrainian Literature Series Anthology 
(2017) bring Ukrainian literature to broader American audiences.
    NEH funding also provides high-quality education on world affairs 
for school teachers and college educators. Using the Holocaust as a 
case study, Kean University's 2021 two-week seminar ``The Search for 
Humanity after Atrocity'' helped higher education faculty integrate 
atrocity studies into their research and curricula. A 2016 program for 
K-12 educators, hosted by Ferris State University, explored U.S.-
Russian/Soviet relations from 1776 to the present. Moreover, from 2013-
2018, a series of NEH grants helped community colleges throughout the 
U.S. integrate the study of world cultures into their curricula. These 
programs included content on Latin America, Asia, Russia, Eastern 
Europe, and the Middle East, among other topics.
 building local tourism economies and shoring up community institutions
    NEH funding catalyzes growth in local tourism economies and shores 
up local institutions so that they can continue serving their 
communities. A series of grants to the Dubuque County Historical 
Society, in Iowa, helped the organization transform from a small, 
regional museum into a world-class institution dedicated to the 
Mississippi River and its history-one that contributes more than $10.5 
million per year to the local economy. NEH support has also proven 
crucial to Thomas Jefferson's Monticello, which is an important 
economic driver in its Virginia region: 50 percent of the site's 
400,000 annual visitors stay in a hotel for at least one night, 
contributing no less than $13.1 million to the local economy.
    Humanities organizations play a crucial role in their communities, 
and NEH funding helps ensure their financial stability and longevity. 
From offering COVID relief funding to New Hampshire's Currier Museum of 
Art, to supporting Appalshop following historic flooding in Kentucky, 
NEH funding helps cultural organizations survive times of crisis. NEH 
funding also offers crucial financial support necessary for 
accomplishing the more mundane tasks that private funders often 
overlook, such as replacing the roof on Libby, Montana's Heritage 
Museum or upgrading HVAC systems and improving ADA compliance at 
Detroit's Opera House.

    [This statement was submitted by Stephen Kidd, Executive Director, 
National Humanities Alliance.]
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         Prepared Statement of the National Indian Health Board
    On behalf of the National Indian Health Board (NIHB) and the 574 
sovereign federally recognized American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/
AN) Tribal nations we serve, thank you for the opportunity to provide 
testimony on the Indian Health Service (IHS) for FY 2025. Tribal 
nations have a unique legal and political relationship with the United 
States. Through its acquisition of land and resources, the United 
States formed a fiduciary relationship with Tribal nations whereby it 
has recognized a trust relationship to safeguard Tribal rights, lands, 
and resources.\1\ In fulfillment of this Tribal trust relationship, the 
United States ``charged itself with moral obligations of the highest 
responsibility and trust'' toward Tribal nations.\2\ In the enactment 
of the Indian Health Care Improvement Act (25 U.S.C. Sec. 1602), 
Congress imposed upon itself the duty to provide the highest possible 
health status of Indians and provide the IHS with all resources 
necessary to effect that policy. Each year, the IHS National Tribal 
Budget Formulation Workgroup (NTBFWG), through Tribal input from the 12 
IHS Areas, creates a budget recommendation to meet Indian Country's 
health needs. Unfortunately, Tribal communities continue to be 
underfunded and remain in a health crisis despite these efforts.
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    \1\ Worcester v. Georgia, 31 U.S. 515 (1832).
    \2\ Seminole Nation v. United States, 316 U.S. 286, 296-97 (1942).
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                       the indian health service
    For FY 2025, the NIHB supports the request of the NTBFWG for IHS in 
the amount of $53.8 billion for IHS, as a mandatory funded program. 
This includes full amount estimates for all services, facilities and 
improvements needed to bring the Indian health system up to the same 
standards as the U.S. population. Top ranked priorities of the 
workgroup are hospitals and health clinics, purchased/referred care, 
alcohol and substance use and mental health, and the Indian Health Care 
Improvement Fund (IHCIF). In facilities the workgroup recommends 
maintenance and improvement, healthcare facilities construction, and 
sanitation facilities construction.\3\
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    For the first time in FY 2024, the Appropriations Committees needed 
to cut IHS accounts to make room for growing Contract Support Costs and 
Section 105(l) Lease Payments. Without a mandatory IHS budget as the 
NTBFWG has proposed, the costs for these accounts must come from within 
the discretionary caps placed on the budget. With an already 
dramatically underfunded health system and the rising costs of 
providing health care nationwide, there is little room for crimping to 
accommodate these increasing costs. The accounts which bore the brunt 
were facilities and the electronic health record line-item. This of 
course is also compounded on top of years of sub-inflationary increase 
the Agency's budget has weathered, diminishing Services purchasing 
power for years. These types of cuts impact the health status of 
American Indians and Alaska Natives.
    According to the Indian Health Service and Tribal Health Care 
Facilities' Needs Assessment Report to Congress, the need for 
facilities funding remains enormous. In 1992, the IHS established its 
current new construction priority list. Of the original 27 facilities 
on the list, over 30 years later, seven remain to be fully funded. The 
IHS hospitals now average 39 years of age, over three times older than 
the average age of U.S. not-for-profit hospitals (which is 11.5 years). 
Aging facilities risk code non-compliance, lower productivity, and 
compromises for health care services. Put another way, at the existing 
replacement rate, a new 2021 facility would not be replaced for 290 
years.
    Last year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 
that life expectancy for AI/ANs has declined by nearly 7 years, and 
that our average life expectancy is now only 65 years-equivalent to the 
Nationwide average in 1944.

    [This statement was submitted by The cuts also impact the roll out 
of significant enterprise-level operation and systems changes, such as 
the new electronic health record system IHS is adopting. Without 
consistent funding for such important high-level programs, systems 
transitions can become marred by stalls, leadership changes, and 
implementation delays. The IHS budget is already dramatically 
underfunded as evidenced by the NTBFWG's fully funding estimates, but 
when additional cuts to critical accounts and line items occur, it only 
sets the Indian health system back further.
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    \4\ Arias E, Tejada-Vera B, Kochanek KD, Ahmad FB. Provisional life 
expectancy estimates for 2021. Vital Statistics Rapid Release; no 23. 
Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics. August 2022. 
DOI: https://dx.doi.org/10.15620/cdc:118999.
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reclassify contract support costs (csc) and section 105(l) as mandatory
    The Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act (ISDEAA) 
requires IHS to compensate Tribes for CSC and Section 105(l) leases 
thus making these payments legally mandatory. Congress provides ``such 
sums as may be necessary'' to meet these obligations but does not 
account for them as mandatory spending in the budget. Since the 
payments are provided through discretionary spending it means that 
annual increases mostly go to these two accounts, leaving all other 
programs in IHS, Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), and Bureau of Indian 
Education (BIE) budget flat-funded.
    Congress intended for these payments to be mandatory when ISDEAA 
was first enacted. The Supreme Court upheld these payments as mandatory 
obligations. Appropriations Committees have cited this issue for nearly 
a decade and call on a solution, including reclassification of these 
accounts as mandatory. IHS has also consistently included this solution 
in their budget and this approach has been endorsed in the Committee 
report language throughout the years.
    Congress can reclassify these accounts by simply coming to an 
agreement on how to score them with the Budget Committees, 
Congressional Budget Office, and OMB, as official scorekeepers. We 
believe that no changes in law are necessary--there merely must be an 
agreement on record stating whether the payment is a mandatory or 
discretionary obligation of the United States.
    Now more than ever, this transition is critical. In FY 2024, 105(l) 
leases increased by 34.2 percent and CSC increased by 8.4 percent, 
whereas the total increased funding for IHS was only 0.05 percent. In 
fact, it was the first year where we saw actual IHS budget cuts--cuts 
from essential services and facilities--to fund these mandatory 
obligations. IHS funding last year did not even keep up with inflation, 
which is estimated to be 3.1 percent according to the Consumer Price 
Index. The U.S. Supreme Court is currently considering a case that 
could have major implications on the funding obligations from CSC. The 
court is expected to soon rule on Becerra v. San Carlos Apache Tribe 
and Northern Arapaho Tribe which could significantly increase the 
obligations for CSC in coming years. In today's funding model, it is 
unclear where this funding would come from.
    We are also cognizant that in FY 2025 the Appropriations Committee 
will have to work under the discretionary budget limits set forth by 
the Fiscal Responsibility Act (FRA) (Public Law 118-5) which will 
provide a maximum of $710.688 billion for nondefense programs; this is 
only 1 percent over FY 2024. All other programs being equal, this would 
not leave room for IHS to fully fund CSC and 105(l) leases (if the 
increases next year are similar to what they were in FY 2024) without 
cuts to other areas of the IHS budget. Furthermore, it would impede the 
ability of the Appropriations Committee to fund staffing, inflation and 
population growth, let alone much needed program expansion. With these 
growing costs, the Interior subcommittee would need a dramatic increase 
in its 302(b) allocation to avoid cuts to other critical programs 
funded by the subcommittee. The time to move these costs to mandatory 
is now.
               towards full and mandatory funding for ihs
    In addition to the transition of CSC and Section 105(l) Lease 
Payments to mandatory, the NTBFWG has recommended all IHS funding 
transition to mandatory appropriations. The recommendation includes the 
full funding estimate developed by the NTBFWG, $53.8 billion for FY 
2025. IHS funding should be provided for through direct appropriations 
with adjustments for inflation and population growth in an allocation 
mutually agreed to by Indian Tribes. These steps will secure the future 
of the Indian health system and meet the treaty and trust obligations 
of the Federal Government to provide for the health of AI/ANs. Until 
then, the provision, preservation, and enhancement of IHS advance 
appropriations is necessary.
    For the first time, IHS was provided advance appropriations in the 
FY 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act (Public Law 117-328). Proving 
the life-saving and cost-saving value of this authority in its first 
budget cycle, IHS and the Tribes were able to receive full-year 
appropriation starting on October 1, 2023 for FY 2024 for the first 
time in almost a decade. Advance appropriations is allowing IHS and 
Tribes to focus on implementation and execution of the core mission, 
instead of partial year budgets and reconciliations. Continuation of 
advance appropriations for IHS is imperative, however, not all IHS 
accounts and line items are included. All IHS accounts must be included 
in the advance appropriations as well as increases year-to-year that 
adjust for inflation, population growth, the IHCIF, and other necessary 
programs. Until IHS spending is mandatory, securing advance 
appropriations for every account in the IHS budget is critical to the 
health of every Tribal community in Indian Country.
  reforming federal funding and support for tribal nations to better 
 embrace our trust responsibilities and promote the next era of tribal 
                           self-determination
    On December 6, 2023, President Biden signed into law Executive 
Order (E.O.) 14112 marking the continuation and further advancement of 
the administration's historic commitment to uphold the Nation's treaty 
and trust obligations to Tribal Nations and their citizens. Further, 
the Executive Order reiterates the United States' commitment to protect 
and support Tribal sovereignty and self-determination.
    The Executive Order also directs the head of each agency to design, 
revise, provide waivers for, and otherwise administer Federal funding 
and support programs for Tribal Nations to achieve objectives such as, 
compacting and contracting, funding for programs to allow Tribal set-
asides, designing application and reporting criteria that reduces 
administrative burdens, and increasing the flexibility of Federal 
funding Tribes receive.
    At its core, E.O. 14112 recognizes three things: Tribal Nations 
have long-standing legal rights recognizing their inherent sovereignty; 
the United States owes a duty to Tribes that has not been met; and 
Federal agencies have authority to make meaningful change and progress 
toward meeting those obligations, doing so in collaboration with the 
sovereign nations they seek to serve. We hope that Congress will also 
recognize the principles outlined in E.O. 14112 as it makes FY 2025 
funding decisions.
            hhs program funding and report language requests
    Due to the restrictions in the Interior Appropriations 
subcommittee's 302(b) allocation, and increasing CSC and 105(l) leases, 
the most likely and needed funding is from other operating divisions at 
the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). As current law 
States and reiterated in E.O. 14112, all Federal agencies have a 
Federal trust responsibility to provide for Tribal nations. However, 
most agencies, including HHS, do not provide any significant, broad-
based, dedicated funding to Tribal nations despite significant support 
to States, localities, and territories.
    HHS consistently provides funding in the form of competitive 
grants, block grants to States only, and complicated overburdensome 
administrative procedures and reporting requirements that only serve to 
exclude the vast majority of Tribal nations. Those that get funding 
have a higher administrative capacity, the workforce to handle the 
significant reporting requirements, and likely receive more funding 
than Tribes who don't have this type of infrastructure. This increases 
a vicious cycle where those without resources continue to remain so.
    CDC has engaged with States and localities for decades on this 
work, with nominal support to Tribal nations. Through COVID-19 
supplemental funding IHS received limited funds to assist with public 
health capacity building. However, Congress took almost $800 million of 
that funding away through the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024 
(Public Law 118-42) and the Fiscal Responsibility Act (Public Law 118-
5). We call on the Appropriations Committee to end this epidemic of 
invisibility in the public health system by supporting Tribal nations 
beyond the IHS.
    In recognition of new Executive Order and the constraints on 
Congress in the FY 2025 budget, particularly on the Interior, 
Environment, and Related Agencies budget, we are recommending further 
report language and increases for Tribal set-asides within the Labor, 
Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies budget. We 
urge this subcommittee to communicate the constraints on Tribal 
programs and the shared responsibility of the Federal trust 
responsibility.
                               conclusion
    The IHS budget faces many pressures to meet the Federal treaty and 
trust obligations to Tribes in such a constrained fiscal environment. 
This subcommittee can make critical changes to the IHS budget, which 
are budget neutral and take pressure off the Interior budget and the 
IHS. Moving CSC and Section 105(l) Lease Payments, providing for full 
advance appropriations, and supporting expansion of Self-Governance and 
Tribal Support beyond the IHS can dramatically improve the outlook for 
Tribes without breaking a budget cap. This subcommittee can break the 
cycle of inequity. We thank you for the opportunity to provide 
testimony and look forward to working with you for the betterment of 
Tribal nations.

    [This statement was submitted by William Smith (Valdez Native 
Tribe), Chairman, National Indian Health Board.]
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     Prepared Statement of National Parks Conservation Association
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony on 
behalf of National Parks Conservation Association (NPCA). Founded in 
1919, NPCA is the leading national, independent voice for protecting 
and enhancing America's National Park System for present and future 
generations. We appreciate the opportunity to provide our views 
regarding the National Park Service (NPS) FY25 budget and provide 
commentary on related accounts and issues. We call for a $250 million 
increase for the Operation of the National Park System; $17 million for 
the Housing Improvement Program; $32 million for the National Heritage 
Area program; and support for other accounts without specified 
recommended amounts.
   increase the operation of the national park system (onps) by $250 
                                million
    This account remains NPCA's highest priority and critically needs a 
significant increase, in particular after the damaging cut in FY24. We 
respect your allocation will be limited this year and there are many 
competing priorities. We know you will have to make difficult 
decisions; at the same time, we also urge you to recognize the 
importance of helping our parks operate more capably. ONPS has been 
described as the ``bread and butter'' of our National parks, providing 
critical funding for personnel and other operational needs. It is the 
core funding that allows national parks to meet their mission 
protecting the world-class cultural and natural resources for which 
these places were designated, and to ensure the safety and enjoyment of 
the visiting public that collectively own them. Unfortunately, because 
the ONPS has not kept up with needs, NPS continues to struggle with 
insufficient staff and other operating needs due in part to the impact 
of uncontrollable fixed costs that has been a contributor to the long-
term erosion of staffing levels.
    Prior to this year, parks and supporting offices were already 
struggling with understaffing due to the impact of uncontrollable fixed 
costs that include staff Cost of Living Increases and pay raises, 
rental payments, the Departmental Working Capital Fund, unemployment 
compensation and more. Outside of more significant appropriated 
increases in FY16 and FY23, appropriated ONPS funding increases over 
the last decade have been largely insufficient to provide for these 
fixed costs. As a result, superintendents have become accustomed to 
letting positions lapse and making other hard decisions to absorb these 
costs. As a result, between 2012 and 2022, NPS lost nearly 3,000 staff 
(in FTES, or full-time equivalent staff).
    The disappointing ONPS appropriation in FY24-the account's first 
cut in a decade-is making this year even more challenging. The 
Interior, Environment and Related Agencies appropriations bill cut park 
operations by $35 million, but this cut was compounded by the forced 
absorption of more than $120 million in fixed costs-a significant 
amount this year due to the mandatory 5.2% Federal pay raise. As a 
result, appropriators in recent budget hearings have been appropriately 
expressing concern that this will mean fewer visitor services during 
the busy season. Resource protection will suffer as well, making it 
that much harder for parks to meet their mission. A $250 million ONPS 
increase would provide for an estimated $44 million in fixed costs and 
ensure a program change of a little more than $200 million that would 
ensure modest, direly needed increases across hundreds of NPS units.
    An ONPS increase is needed to help with high visitation and climate 
change adaptation: NPS understaffing is being compounded by record 
visitation increases. Between 2012 and 2022, NPS gradually lost 13% of 
its staff capacity. Meanwhile, visits to NPS sites grew by 10 percent. 
Superintendents regularly report staffing constraints that are 
compounded by often double-digit percentage increases in visitation. 
Staff commonly cover multiple collateral duties. It is not uncommon to 
have, for example, interpretive staff addressing increased restroom use 
or law enforcement assisting with cars in parking lots. As a result, 
other needs go unaddressed. Natural and cultural resource protection, 
research and monitoring, programming, and other services central to 
parks meeting their mission go unaddressed or delayed indefinitely. NPS 
is addressing the visitation challenge in many parks with timed entry, 
permits, and related tools. However, they all require staffing and 
resources that take away from other needs.
    Our national parks are also on the front lines of climate change, 
between storm surges, wildfire risks, and threatened wildlife habitat 
and irreplaceable cultural sites. Helping our parks adapt to a changing 
climate requires funding. These investments can be made across diverse 
subaccounts within park operations, including Cultural and Natural 
Resource Stewardship. Among other climate-related needs, funding is 
vital to relocate facilities threatened by erosion and storm surges, 
combat invasive species, address catastrophic wildfires, provide 
critical air and water quality monitoring and otherwise inventory and 
monitor cultural and natural resources to identify threats and develop 
adaptive management strategies. Management planning is needed in many 
areas including related to climate and increased visitation.
    ONPS support for cultural resource management is needed: As we 
outlined in our recently released Cultural Resource Challenge for the 
National Park Service, the ability for NPS to staff its cultural 
resource operations has fallen significantly and disproportionately 
over the years. Inventory and monitoring, climate-related needs, museum 
collections and more are all overdue for added investments. A 
significant shortfall in cultural resources funding has undermined the 
agency's ability to plan and manage the resources in their care. It is 
difficult to impossible to care for these resources when NPS has not 
been able to even properly inventory the resources they are tasked with 
stewarding. FY25 is an opportunity to help meet these needs and 
highlight the importance of NPS' world-class, nationally significant 
cultural and historic resources. Our cultural resource report calls for 
investments in: a professional cultural resource stewardship workforce; 
historic research; cultural resource inventory and monitoring; the 
Cultural Resource Project Budget; collections management; and museums 
collections digitization.
    New park units: We commend this committee for historically 
supporting more recent NPS designations. NPCA has advocated for these 
new units that better protect and interpret America's diverse history. 
We encourage continuing fiscal support as well as highlighting in the 
bill's Explanatory Statement the importance of these units, such as 
Birmingham Civil Rights National Monument, Blackwell School National 
Historic Site, and Amache National Historic Site.
    Management Planning capacity is needed. Planning is not happening 
at the pace needed to guide park decision-making; this becomes more of 
an issue when considering the dual and intersecting challenges of 
climate change and skyrocketing visitation at many parks. NPS must be 
equipped to successfully respond to rapidly evolving and increasing 
visitor use. We urge investments to conduct research and prepare and 
implement visitor use management plans to address rising use and its 
threat to visitor safety and resources. NPS needs staff and resources 
to collect baseline data on visitation and resource conditions to 
inform visitor use management planning processes; enhance NPS' capacity 
for conducting good social science and using it to guide visitor use 
management planning and adaptive management; study the application of 
recreation ecology science in visitor use management planning; and 
support mechanisms for gateway communities and other public land 
management agencies to collaborate and conduct coordinated regional 
visitor use management planning. NPS can also improve its 
communications systems to reach new and underrepresented communities.
    Great American Outdoors and appropriated maintenance and repairs: 
The Great American Outdoors Act's Legacy Restoration Fund (LRF) is 
funding hundreds of projects across the country that are successfully 
repairing park infrastructure. We commend your support for and 
oversight of this important program and ask that members of this 
committee support legislation to extend the LRF for at least an 
additional 5 years at current levels. We are hopeful authorizing 
legislation will be introduced in the coming months. We also encourage 
you to support cyclic maintenance, repair and rehabilitation and line-
item construction to address the $23 billion deferred maintenance 
backlog and ensure the day-to-day maintenance that can reduce the 
growth of the backlog. We are disappointed with the levels in the 
president's budget for these appropriated accounts and encourage you to 
provide more if your allocation allows.
    NPS Housing: Unfortunately, the lack of affordable housing facing 
countless Americans has been taking a toll on NPS' capacity to house 
its employees. Rent and home sale prices have increased prohibitively 
so that as staff who have long served parks retire, new incoming staff 
cannot afford to live near parks. In absence of decent housing within a 
reasonable commuting distance and with limited housing stock in parks, 
prospective park employees turn down jobs and superintendents struggle 
to fill positions even when funds are available. NPCA is discussing 
with partners, congressional offices and NPS the varied options for 
trying to address this housing crisis; however, additional funding 
would clearly be helpful in addressing some of these needs. 
Accordingly, we commend the committee for its $4.7 million increase in 
FY23 for the NPS housing program and its maintenance of that $7.9 
million level in FY24. We ask the committee to support the president's 
budget level of $16.9 million for this important account in FY25.
    Heritage Partnership Program: This program supports National 
Heritage Areas (NHAs) in dozens of communities throughout the country. 
NHAs are strong examples of truly effective public-private partnerships 
established in support of conservation and preservation values. NHAs 
allow local experts to better protect and interpret stories and 
resources that are regionally distinct and nationally significant. The 
Federal funding NHAs receive must be matched 1:1 with money from a non-
federal source. The NHA system was formalized through legislation at 
the end of the last Congress, so this subcommittee's maintenance of the 
$29 million funding level for this small but mighty program is 
commendable. We urge you to reject the president's proposed cut and 
urge you to provide level funding at a minimum. A modest increase to 
$32 million could ensure that every NHA has at least $500,000 in 
funding, that NPS guidelines and performance benchmarks are met, and 
that the program can support new NHAs and NPS management.
    Historic Preservation Fund: NPCA supports this important program 
that provides support for cultural resource protection in communities 
throughout the country, so were disappointed in the significant cut in 
FY24 and poor funding levels proposed in the president's budget. We 
support increasing this fund with a particular eye towards the Tribal 
Historic Preservation Offices (THPOs) that have long been underfunded. 
We commend the committee's increase for these grants-in-aid to Tribes 
in FY23. This increase raised the average for each THPO to $100,000, 
which is helpful, but these offices are expected to respond to 
thousands of consultation requests. We encourage an increase 
specifically for these THPOs to help meet preservation responsibilities 
under the National Historic Preservation Act and protect important 
artifacts.
    Investments are also needed for related agencies that support the 
health of park resources and communities. We commend the committee's 
work to better invest in the many agencies and programs that support 
wildlife, clean air and water in our parks and help research and 
address climate change. Park wildlife, for example, benefit from US 
Fish and Wildlife Service funding. We urge the committee to make 
significant investments in the protection and recovery of our most 
vulnerable species, including the more than 600 threatened and 
endangered plants and animals in national parks. The US Fish and 
Wildlife Service needs robust funding for Endangered Species Act 
programs. Investments in EPA's Geographic Programs are critical for 
restoring and maintaining the health of the Great Lakes, Chesapeake Bay 
and other waterways and ecosystems in and surrounding national parks. 
There are many important investments the committee can continue to make 
that helps our parks adapt to climate change. For example, USGS Climate 
Adaptation Science Centers are critical to support climate science that 
benefits our National parks and their ecosystems.
    We urge the committee to support supplemental disaster relief 
funding for NPS. Catastrophic weather events-increasingly related to 
climate change-cause massive harm to park communities and 
infrastructure. We commend the $1.5 billion investment in NPS disaster 
relief in FY23, which will address the damage to numerous parks from 
flooding, hurricanes, wildfires, and more. The nondefense supplemental 
bill introduced in October 2023 included $395 million for disasters at 
numerous parks. This includes the Hurricane Ridge day lodge at Olympic 
National Park and numerous national park sites in California, in 
addition to historic resource damage due to the wildfires in Maui. 
Since then, Acadia National Park has seen at least $20 million in 
damage from two back-to-back storms in January 2024 and Big Thicket 
National Preserve has recently joined surrounding communities in 
suffering from recent flooding. These disasters and any others this 
year should be included in a disaster supplemental package that we hope 
can move forward in the coming months to provide not only for the 
countless communities impacted by climate change-related and other 
disasters, but also our National parks. We urge members of this 
subcommittee to support this funding when an opportunity arises.
    Policy riders: The FY24 Interior bill included hundreds of riders 
that would have damaged national parks, their wildlife and clean air 
and water. We applaud the stripping of these riders in conference and 
urge that the underlying bill in FY25 does not contain damaging riders.

    [This statement was submitted by John Garder, Senior Director of 
Budget and Appropriations, National Parks Conservation Association.]
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    Prepared Statement of the National Tribal Contract Support Cost 
                               Coalition
    The National Tribal Contract Support Cost Coalition is a voluntary 
organization of 21 Tribes and inter-Tribal organizations located across 
13 States, which collectively operate over one billion dollars in 
Indian Health Service (IHS) and Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) programs 
on behalf of over 250 Native American Tribes.\1\
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    \1\ The Coalition members are the Alaska Native Tribal Health 
Consortium (AK), Arctic Slope Native Association (AK), Central Council 
of Tlingit & Haida Indian Tribes (AK), Cherokee Nation (OK), Chickasaw 
Nation (OK), Choctaw Nation (OK), Citizen Potawatomi Nation (OK), 
Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes (MT), Copper River Native 
Association (AK), Forest County Potawatomi Community (WI), Kodiak Area 
Native Association (AK), Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (MI), 
Muscogee (Creek) Nation (OK), Pueblo of Zuni (NM), Riverside- San 
Bernardino County Indian Health (CA), Shoshone Bannock Tribes (ID), 
Shoshone-Paiute Tribes (ID, NV), Southeast Alaska Regional Health 
Consortium (AK), Spirit Lake Tribe (ND), Tanana Chiefs Conference (AK), 
Yukon-Kuskokwim Health Corporation (AK), Northwest Portland Area Indian 
Health Board (43 Tribes in ID, WA, OR), and the Ysleta del Sur Pueblo 
(TX).
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    The Coalition was launched in 1996 to press Congress and the 
agencies to honor the Government's legal obligation to add contract 
support cost funding to every contract and compact awarded under the 
Indian Self-Determination Act (ISDA). During this same period, Tribes 
across the country launched massive litigation that eventually led to 
two Supreme Court victories cementing the Government's duty to pay 
contract support costs in full: Cherokee Nation v. Leavitt (2005) and 
Salazar v. Ramah Navajo Chapter (2012). In the wake of those victories, 
this Committee adjusted the appropriations process going forward to 
recognize the mandatory nature of these contract payments, based upon 
agency reports on the amounts required to fully reimburse the Tribes.
    But IHS understated the amounts required to fully reimburse the 
Tribes and it continued to underpay them, leading to a third round of 
litigation culminating in San Carlos Apache Tribe v. Becerra, now 
pending before the Supreme Court. I will address this case today 
because a Court decision against IHS in the San Carlos case will 
require a significant adjustment to Tribal contract support cost 
payments going forward, and because IHS has to date failed to advise 
this Committee about the true magnitude of its contract support cost 
obligations to the Tribes.
    The core issue presented in the San Carlos case is whether Congress 
in the ISDA required IHS to reimburse Tribal overhead costs for running 
the entire ``Federal program'' that IHS turns over to Tribal operation, 
including the portion of that program that IHS (and now Tribes) fund 
with ``program income"-principally third-party revenues that IHS and 
Tribes generate from providing services to patients eligible for 
Medicare, Medicaid and private insurance. As IHS has frequently told 
this subcommittee, in some IHS service units third-party revenues fund 
over 60 percent of healthcare operations (with agency appropriations 
funding the balance), and tribally operated service units equally rely 
on these same collections to sustain the contracted Federal programs.
    Contrary to the ISDA (as we see it), IHS has been unlawfully 
reducing its CSC reimbursements to ensure no overhead is paid to 
support the third-party revenue-funded portion of each contracted 
program. At the same time, since third-party revenues are a large part 
of IHS's own operations, IHS's overhead, including its HR and IT 
operations, supports all of its third-party funded personnel and 
expenditures. IHS has been wrong to treat Tribes differently by 
excluding from its CSC reimbursements the portion of Tribal overhead 
costs associated with spending third-party collections.
    In the San Carlos litigation, IHS irresponsibly asserted that the 
total additional cost of covering overhead associated with program 
income spending would be between $800 million and $2 billion. But in 
March, government counsel was forced to admit before the Supreme Court 
that this estimate was overstated, and that IHS had no reliable 
estimate of the amount of its annual underpayment to the Tribes. It 
also mixed up the issue of annual CSC reimbursements (which this 
committee will address) with damage awards for past underpayments 
(which Treasury will address through the Judgment Fund). This Committee 
needs an honest assessment of the added costs needed to fully fund 
Tribal contract support costs going forward. We therefore respectfully 
request that the Committee direct IHS, on an urgent and immediate 
basis, to engage in Tribal consultation on this issue over the next 90 
days. We also respectfully suggest that the Committee ask the General 
Accountability Office to undertake a stratified statistical sampling to 
facilitate this process.
    Other issues also remain which warrant this Committee's attention.
                        mandatory appropriation
    The Coalition renews its request that all contract support cost and 
section 105(l) lease accounts be moved to the mandatory side of the 
budget to ensure these vital funds remain available and are timely 
paid. Language to accomplish this result has been shared with the 
Committee.
 the reconciliation process and difficulties with current bill language
    As we noted last year, current bill language concerning contract 
support cost significantly differs for the BIA and IHS. Bill language 
for the BIA (but not IHS) States that CSC appropriations shall only be 
``available for obligation'' during the current fiscal year, impeding 
the BIA's ability to access the appropriation to reimburse additional 
audited amounts found due after the fiscal year has closed. The BIA 
language on this score should match the IHS language.
    Conversely, bill language for IHS (but not the BIA) States that 
unspent funds ``shall be applied to contract support costs due'' in 
``subsequent years"-necessitating an additional process to determine 
exactly how much is available to cover a future year's CSC obligation. 
This language may be responsible for the fact that IHS (but not the 
BIA) has built up a massive post- fiscal year ``reconciliation'' 
process that leaves the books open on every Tribal contract until 
audits and indirect cost rate agreements for each year are completed. 
Many Tribal overhead costs therefore go unreimbursed for up to 6 years, 
leading to additional Tribal claims against IHS.
    The IHS reconciliation process is contrary to standard practice for 
calculating and paying contract support costs. Both agencies calculate 
and pay contract support costs-mostly indirect costs-based on an 
indirect cost rate that can be up to 3 years old. This provides 
flexibility in case audits are late, or-as has often been the case in 
recent years-the rate-making agencies are late. Either way, the goal 
should be to pay contract support costs based upon the best available 
data, and to then move on to the next year. IHS's ``reconciliation'' 
practice does not facilitate Tribal self-determination and self-
governance, and each year it costs millions of dollars in man- hours 
for the agency and the Tribes combined. It also complicates Tribal 
accounting and indirect cost negotiations as adjustments are made years 
after the books are already closed. Similarly (and as also mentioned 
earlier), the BIA's practice of recalculating ``direct'' contract 
support costs every year differs from IHS practice and should be 
discontinued because it leads to recurring and unacceptable delays on 
contract payments.
    Attached to this testimony is suggested bill language that would 
make the CSC provisions uniform and eliminate the need for any 
reconciliation process.
                             payment delays
    The BIA and the DOI Office of Self-Governance consistently fail to 
timely disburse contract funds to contracting and compacting Tribes. 
Unlike other government contractors, Tribes are left to wait months, 
some years, before they receive payment. Last year we noted that one 
Region failed to make any CSC payments to its Tribes. Meanwhile, OSG 
holds back what should be recurring contract payments until late in the 
fiscal year, then threatens Tribes with no payment if information 
demanded in August is not promptly provided.
    These are government contracts, and forcing Tribes to file claims 
in order to be paid is unacceptable. A number of Tribes have called for 
penalties on agency personnel who fail to make timely payments.
                ihs misconduct in reducing csc payments
    Last year we noted that IHS had unlawfully reduced contract 
payments to a Navajo ISDA hospital contractor based upon a flawed case 
known as Cook Inlet Tribal Council v. Dotomain, 10 F.4th 892 (D.C. Cir. 
2021). Although this misconduct was quickly remedied in Fort Defiance 
Indian Health Board v. Becerra, 604 F.Supp.3d 118 (D. NM 2022)-and 
after the agency's own hearing officer also ruled against the agency-a 
better answer would be enactment of H.R. 409.
    H.R. 409 would not require IHS to pay any sums that IHS does not 
already pay, and the flaw in the Cook Inlet decision is this: the D.C. 
Circuit Court of Appeals concluded that costs which IHS ``normally'' 
incurs in its direct operation of a program are not eligible for 
reimbursement as contract support costs. But IHS has for decades 
reimbursed Tribal costs that IHS ``normally'' incurs too, like human 
resource (HR) costs and costs to cover management and planning, 
utilities, financial management, housekeeping and janitorial services, 
building and grounds maintenance expenses, general support services, 
property management repairs and maintenance, records management, data 
processing (information technology, or IT) and office services. 
Requiring that IHS continue to reimburse these costs precisely as it 
has in the past will not cause any increase in outlays, which is why 
H.R. 409 is a reasonable and measured response to the flawed Cook Inlet 
decision.
                            remaining issues
    Two other important issues warrant brief comment.

  --Untimely CSC Reporting. Neither agency is honoring its duty to 
        timely report to Congress on the execution of its contract 
        support cost obligations. See 25 U.S.C. Sec. 5325(c). IHS and 
        BIA reports are several years behind.

    Reporting assures accountability. The Coalition requests that the 
        Committee reinforce the agencies' CSC reporting obligations.

  --IHS replacement of contracts with grants. The IHS practice of 
        awarding new Indian healthcare funds as grants instead of 
        adding them to existing contracts and compacts bypasses the 
        ISDA's CSC obligation while also adding unnecessary grants 
        management overhead costs. The practice needs to end.

    Prior to FY 2012, IHS transferred earmarked domestic violence and 
        methamphe- tamine and suicide prevention (behavioral health 
        initiative) funds through compacts and contracts. But a few 
        months after the 2012 Supreme Court decision in Ramah, then-
        Director Roubideaux reversed course and demanded that grant 
        instruments be used. Without CSC reimbursements, Tribes were 
        then compelled to divert program funds to cover overhead costs, 
        while also incurring new overhead costs to comply with special 
        and different grant management rules.

    Six years ago this Committee pressed IHS to return to the pre-2012 
        practice of transferring these and similar funds through 
        compacts and contracts. IHS launched, stalled, then relaunched 
        a Tribal consultation on the matter, only to let the matter 
        die.

    The Coalition respectfully requests that the Committee add bill 
        language for FY 2025 mandating the transfer of substance abuse, 
        opioid, domestic violence, suicide prevention, and other 
        targeted funds to Tribes though their ISDA contracts and 
        compacts.

    Thank you for the opportunity to offer this testimony on behalf of 
the National Tribal Contract Support Cost Coalition.

    [This statement was submitted by Lloyd B. Miller, Sonosky Chambers, 
Sachse, Miller & Monkman LLP Counsel to the National Tribal Contract 
Support Cost Coalition.]
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   Prepared Statement of the National Trust for Historic Preservation
    I appreciate the opportunity to present the National Trust for 
Historic Preservation's recommendations for FY 2025 appropriations. My 
name is Shaw Sprague, and I am the Vice President of Government 
Relations. The National Trust is a privately funded nonprofit chartered 
by Congress in 1949. We work to save America's historic places to 
enrich our future.
    Thank you for considering recommendations made by the National 
Trust. We look forward to continuing our work with this subcommittee as 
you address the ongoing need for investments to sustain our Nation's 
rich heritage of cultural and historic resources that also generate 
lasting economic and civic vitality for communities throughout the 
Nation. We offer our gratitude for your longstanding support for 
preserving America's special places.
    Our annual report, ``The Preservation Budget: Select Preservation 
Priorities for FY 2025 Appropriations,'' \1\ includes more information 
on the programs identified below, including funding levels over time 
and many remarkable recent examples of program successes.
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    National Park Service: Historic Preservation Fund. The HPF is the 
principal source of funding to implement the Nation's preservation 
programs. This critical program saw six successive historic funding 
levels, until FY 2024. While this recent investment in the HPF has 
facilitated innovative and impactful historic preservation work across 
the country, additional appropriations are needed to ensure a more 
complete historic narrative is preserved for future generations and 
lesser-known places of historic and cultural significance may continue 
to enrich our communities.
    HPF funding supports fundamental preservation activities such as 
survey, nomination of properties to the National Register of Historic 
Places, public education, and project reviews required for Federal 
Historic Tax Credit (HTC) projects. Among many highlights, we would 
like to emphasize the subcommittee's sustained support for the African 
American Civil Rights grants program to preserve and highlight sites 
and stories associated with securing civil rights for All Americans. We 
would also like to highlight the extraordinary impact Paul Bruhn 
Historic Revitalization Grants have in fostering economic development 
in our Nation's rural communities. The competitive grant programs 
within the HPF are having a transformative impact in communities 
throughout the country and these investments are helping preserve a 
broader historic narrative while revitalizing communities and creating 
local jobs. State and Tribal historic preservation offices are at the 
forefront of protecting our Nation's historic and cultural resources 
and are consistently asked to do more with less funding. The National 
Trust strongly supports addressing this unmet financial need.
    We respectfully request that Congress provide a total FY 2025 HPF 
appropriation of $225 million. Within that funding, we recommend:

  --$70 million for State Historic Preservation Officers (SHPOs)

  --$34 million for Tribal Historic Preservation Officers (THPOs)

  --$28 million for competitive grants to preserve the sites and 
        stories of efforts to advance African American Civil Rights

  --$7 million for the History of Equal Rights Grants program to 
        preserve the sites and stories associated with securing civil 
        rights for All Americans, including women, American Latino, 
        Native American, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, and LGBTQ 
        Americans

  --$13 million for grants to Historically Black Colleges and 
        Universities to preserve and rehabilitate historic buildings

  --$40 million for Save America's Treasures grants

  --$17 million for Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization grants

  --$5 million for Underrepresented Community grants

  --$11 million for Semiquincentennial Grants program

    National Park Service: National Networks. The NPS manages five 
national networks around important themes in American history: African 
American Civil Rights, the Underground Railroad Network to Freedom, the 
Reconstruction Era, World War II Heritage Cities, and Japanese American 
World War II History. These programs coordinate preservation, research, 
and education efforts nationwide across large networks of partners. 
Please support $11.75 million to administer and enhance National 
Networks programs. Increased funding would provide additional support 
for the NPS to enhance the administration and expansion of National 
Networks programs.
    National Park Service: Deferred Maintenance. The NPS is responsible 
for maintaining a system comprised of more than 85 million acres that 
tell the stories of remarkable people and events in our country's 
history. Unfortunately, after over 100 years of operation and 
inconsistent public funding, the NPS faces a multi-million dollar 
deferred maintenance backlog. Deferred maintenance in our National 
parks puts historic and cultural sites at risk of permanent damage or 
loss, and in the absence of funding, the condition of these assets will 
continue to deteriorate and become more expensive to repair and 
preserve in the future. We also recommend sustained increases for 
specific line items to ensure the maintenance backlog continues to 
decrease.

  --Construction. We recommend at least $150 million in funding for 
        Line-Item Construction projects that address the deferred 
        maintenance for the NPS' highest priority non- transportation 
        assets with project costs greater than $1 million.

  --Repair and Rehabilitation; Cyclic Maintenance. We are enormously 
        appreciative of the Committee's commitment to enhancing these 
        accounts with significant investments since FY 2016. We 
        recommend additional increases for Repair and Rehabilitation at 
        $150 million and maintaining $205 million for Cyclic 
        Maintenance to ensure routine and emerging needs are 
        appropriately addressed.

    National Park Service: Cultural Programs. Within its cultural 
programs, the NPS manages many critical historic preservation 
activities, including management of the National Register of Historic 
Places and the National Historic Landmarks Program, certification of 
Federal historic tax credit (HTC) projects, coordination of Federal 
archaeology programs, and the administration of invaluable and targeted 
grant funding. These grant programs include the Native American Graves 
Protection and Repatriation Act Grants, Japanese American Confinement 
Sites Grants, American Battlefield Protection Program Assistance 
Grants, and many more.
    The National Trust recommends $46 million for Cultural Programs for 
FY 2025. Specifically, we want to highlight our recommendation of $3 
million for the African American Burial Grounds Preservation Program, 
which has been authorized since FY 2023, but has yet to receive any 
appropriated funds to begin this critical work. This recently 
authorized program will allow descendant-led and preservation 
organizations working to protect African American burial grounds to 
receive funding to preserve these sacred landscapes. Assisting with the 
discovery of these places of tribute and memory ahead of commercial 
development will help avoid disturbances of these sacred places and aid 
family members, descendants, and community members in honoring and 
remembering their shared past.
    Further increases in this account will support sustained demands to 
review and approve Federal HTC projects and allow improvements to, and 
a more complete list of, historic and archeological resources in the 
National Register of Historic Places.
    National Park Service: National Heritage Areas. We recommend $34 
million for the Heritage Partnership Program and National Heritage 
Areas (NHAs). This level of investment would provide the necessary 
funding for each of the 62 individual NHAs in 36 States, as well as NPS 
administrative support for coordination, guidance, assistance, and 
training. NHAs uniquely combine historic preservation, cultural and 
natural resource conservation, local and regional preservation 
planning, and heritage education and tourism. According to the NPS, 
NHAs leverage an average of $5.50 for every $1 of Federal investment to 
create jobs, generate local government revenue, and sustain local 
communities through revitalization tourism.
    Bureau of Land Management: Cultural Resources Management. The 
Bureau of Land Management (BLM) oversees the largest, most diverse, and 
scientifically important collection of historic and cultural resources 
on our Nation's public lands, as well as the museum collections and 
data associated with them. The National Trust recommends $25 million to 
bolster this program.
    The cultural resources program also supports Section 106 review of 
land-use proposals, Section 110 inventory and protection of cultural 
resources, compliance with the Native American Graves Protection and 
Repatriation Act, and consultation with Tribes and Alaska Native 
Governments. Moving forward, we recommend $1 million in dedicated funds 
for the agency to enhance its National Cultural Resources Information 
Management System (NCRIMS). This collaboration with state historic 
preservation offices is one of the Nation's most innovative programs to 
support predictive modeling and data analysis to enhance planning for 
large-scale, cross-jurisdictional land-use projects.
    Bureau of Land Management: National Landscape Conservation System. 
The BLM's National Landscape Conservation System (National Conservation 
Lands) includes approximately 37 million acres of congressionally and 
presidentially designated lands, including National Monuments, National 
Conservation Areas, Wilderness, Wilderness Study Areas, National Scenic 
and Historic Trails, and Wild and Scenic Rivers.
    We encourage the Committee to provide at least $78 million to the 
base program for the National Landscape Conservation System. An 
increase in funding will allow for greater inventory and monitoring of 
cultural resources in this growing system, prevent damage to the 
resources found in these areas, ensure proper management, and provide 
for a quality visitor experience.
    Independent Agencies: National Endowments for the Arts and for the 
Humanities. We urge the Committee to provide no less than $211 million 
each for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) and National 
Endowment for the Humanities (NEH). NEA and NEH funding is critical to 
communities around the country and strengthens our Nation by promoting 
the 'lessons of history' to all Americans. This funding has also 
supported efforts by the National Trust's Historic Sites and others to 
tell a fuller American story and engage visitors in compelling ways.
    Independent Agencies: Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. We 
recommend $10.5 million for the Advisory Council on Historic 
Preservation (ACHP). This increase would enhance the ACHP's ability to 
perform its essential role in ensuring the Nation's historic and 
cultural resources are protected while also advancing timely delivery 
of major infrastructure projects and improving consultation with Indian 
Tribes. The increase would also support the ACHPs efforts to promote 
enhanced mapping and digitization of cultural resources.
    We stand ready to assist the Committee in support of our 
recommendations.

    [This statement was submitted by Shaw Sprague, Vice President of 
Government Relations, National Trust for Historic Preservation.]
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       Prepared Statement of National Wildlife Refuge Association
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the National 
Wildlife Refuge Association. We appreciate the opportunity to submit 
comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We 
request Congress to allocate at least $602.3 million in funding for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance account 
under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). However, to 
achieve a fully funded and effective Refuge System, an annual budget of 
at least $2.2 billion is needed to provide for its basic needs, meet 
mandates and public demand, and ensure commensurate staffing of other 
similarly sized public lands systems. The President's budget request of 
$602.3 million is an important step towards that goal and we urge 
Congress to make significant investments in these treasured public 
lands and waters.
    The Refuge Association is a non-profit exclusively focused on 
protecting, promoting, and enhancing the National Wildlife Refuge 
System. As the Nation's only set of Federal lands dedicated to the 
conservation and management of America's native wildlife, it is the 
world's largest and most diverse network of conservation lands and 
waters, encompassing more than 850 million acres of unique habitats 
that our native wildlife species depend on. Our national wildlife 
refuges are essential for protecting biodiversity and climate-resilient 
habitats, providing community-driven conservation, and expanding 
wildlife-dependent recreational opportunities nationwide.
    The Refuge System has been stymied by over a decade of a severe 
lack of funding and resources. Steadily ??increasing funding needs 
paired with insufficient budgets has led to a Refuge System that is 
quickly eroding in habitat management and an ability even to keep 
refuges open. Understanding these impacts is critical for Congress to 
begin addressing the significant challenges facing our native wildlife 
and ensure the health and integrity of the Refuge System well into the 
future.
    USFWS' limited staffing capacity has several negative impacts on 
the ecological health of the Refuge System. For example, only 27% of 
the threatened and endangered populations occurring on refuges are 
monitored due to limited capacity. This leads to compromised adaptive 
management capability, inability to manage invasive species, the 
destruction of native habitat, and the potential loss of more species. 
With its current resources, USFWS can only successfully control 7% of 
the lands infested with non-native species, which has increased 30% 
since 2005. Planning is at the core of Refuge System management, but 
more than 60% of refuges have an outdated Comprehensive Conservation 
Plan or no plan at all. Limited capacity is hampering these efforts and 
severely limits landscape-level planning and adaptability to changing 
conditions.
    Significant investments must be made today to begin working towards 
better outcomes for our native wildlife. USFWS has done excellent work 
to deploy creative solutions and new partnerships to manage the Refuge 
System as well as possible with their existing resources. But USFWS 
should not have to make hard decisions every year about how to operate 
under this longstanding funding crisis. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting not just conservation 
planning and wildlife and habitat management, but also visitor 
services, law enforcement, and maintenance. Congress must provide 
adequate resources to effectively administer the Refuge System.
    The $503 million appropriated to the Refuge System in fiscal year 
(FY) 2010, when the Refuge System relatively saw its highest funding 
and staffing levels, is worth approximately $765 million today. Yet 
current funding sits at $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. 
Considering the level of inflation and increased needs of the Refuge 
System since FY2010, the Refuge System budget has effectively 
decreased, and USFWS has been forced to do more with less every single 
year. The failure to offset the impacts of inflation has resulted in a 
Refuge System that has long been strained under the weight of 
critically low staffing levels and lost capacity. Rising fixed costs 
are also eating into any increases in appropriations. It costs the 
Refuge System an estimated $3 million for every one percent raise in 
payroll costs. Without base increases in the budget to cover these 
fixed costs, several much-needed positions are eliminated every year. 
This situation is completely unsustainable.
    National wildlife refuges are important recreational and tourism 
destinations in communities across the United States, providing 
families and everyday Americans access to some of the Nation's best 
opportunities for wildlife observation, sustainable hunting and 
fishing, photography, and environmental education for people of all 
ages and backgrounds. Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new 
refuge units, hundreds of millions of acres of marine national 
monuments, opened 6 million acres for hunting and fishing, and 
visitation has grown to over 68 million annual visitors-an increase of 
47 percent since FY2011. This generates over 41,000 jobs and provides 
more than $3.2 billion in economic output each year. It has also added 
new services, such as the Urban Wildlife Conservation Program, which 
was launched in 2012 and seeks to address inequalities in recreational 
access and conservation participation. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at approximately 2,500 FTEs-has 
decreased by 27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the 
Refuge System to manage its vast network of lands and waters and to 
fulfill its mission of conserving wildlife and habitats. No refuges are 
fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero staff on site. 
While not all refuges need on-site staffing, many refuges and refuge 
complexes have been de-staffed or understaffed significantly. Multiple 
refuges are closed to the public and are completely unmanaged. Many 
employees must manage multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes 
traveling over vast distances, hundreds of miles per day.
    Visitor Services staff has decreased by 25% since FY10, yet the 
number of visits has steadily increased by an average of 3.8% annually. 
Sadly, nearly all of the Refuge System's 125 visitor facilities operate 
on limited hours, with some centers completely closed, and none would 
function without volunteers. However, many volunteer programs have been 
cut back or eliminated due to a lack of supervision from professional 
FTEs or necessary infrastructure. In 2023, there were 48% fewer 
volunteers than in 2016.
    A nationwide study conducted by the International Association of 
Chiefs of Police in 2005 indicated that the Refuge System only has 20% 
of the recommended 1,074 Federal Wildlife Officers (FWOs) needed to 
provide adequate public safety and resource protection. As of February 
2024, the Refuge System has the lowest number of FWOs in over 10 years 
with 221 officers, while simultaneously seeing the highest visitation 
and crime rates in its history. Currently, seven States have no 
officers stationed within their boundaries (CT, DE, IA, MI, NH, OH, 
VT), and nine States have just one officer (GA, Guam, HI, IN, KY, PA, 
PR, RI, WY).
    In 2022 alone, officers responded to a total of 10,854 criminal 
incidents on Refuge System lands. There have been 1,384 significant 
incidents in the last 4 years-an average of 1 per day. There have been 
1,605 arson or vandalism cases since 2019. Since 2016, the USFWS has 
sustained $1.7 million dollars in property loss due to theft or damage. 
However, USFWS does not currently have the authority to collect civil 
damages for repairs and restoration.
    The Refuge System also has a large deferred maintenance backlog of 
$2.65 billion, with most structures near or past the end of their 
maximum useful life spans, such as buildings, roads, bridges, and 
trails. Under current appropriations, supplemented by the Great 
American Outdoors Act (GAOA), deferred maintenance costs are projected 
to reach $28 billion by FY2050. Additional funding is necessary to 
address this backlog, or assets will continue to degrade well beyond 
their recommended life spans. This could jeopardize visitor access, 
safety, climate resilience, and wildlife conservation efforts, as well 
as double or triple long-term maintenance costs over the next 20 years. 
We support the permanent authorization of GAOA and increasing the 
allocation of GAOA funds to USFWS from 5% to at least 15% so it can 
begin to address its deferred maintenance backlog.
    Congress must recognize and understand the Refuge System's budget 
realities to begin addressing the significant challenges facing our 
native wildlife and habitats and ensure the health and integrity of the 
Refuge System for future generations. To achieve a healthy and 
adequately staffed Refuge System, the Refuge Association believes it 
needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations to effectively 
fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for wildlife-
dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. The 
President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602 million is an important step 
towards that goal.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of at least $602.3 million 
for the National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please contact Libby 
Marking at lmarking@refugeassociation.org for more information
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              Prepared Statement of Native Village of Eyak
Recommendations:

    1. Provide full funding and advance appropriations for the Indian 
Health Service (IHS)

    2. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country

    3. Permanently exempt the IHS from cuts, sequestrations, and 
rescissions

    4. Ensure mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and 
section 105(l) leases.

    5. Increase funding and accepted applications for the Joint Venture 
(JV) Program

    6. Amend Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act 
(ISDEAA) to clarify CSC provisions.

    7. Fund Critical Infrastructure investments for the IHS.

    8. Increase funding and extend self-governance to the Special 
Diabetes Program for Indians.

    9. Increase funding for behavioral and mental health programs.

    Introduction. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share 
our funding priorities for FY 2025. My name is Brooke Kwiik Mallory and 
I serve as the Chair of the Native Village of Eyak. The Native Village 
of Eyak is a federally recognized Tribal government located in Cordova, 
Alaska, on the southeast shores of Prince William Sound in the North 
Gulf Coast. The Tribe is a co-signer to the Alaska Tribal Health 
Compact with the IHS and operates a wide range of health care programs, 
including primary care services and behavioral health. We focus on 
self-determination and self-governance as a means of improving the 
lives and health of our Tribal citizens. We are not only responsible 
for providing quality, available health care services, but also for 
promoting opportunities and partnerships for our citizens, protecting 
our traditional land and natural resources, and for strengthening our 
culture.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
the Indian health system in recent years via the CARES Act, American 
Rescue Plan Act, and Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. The direct funding 
model and successful implementation of these laws prove that when 
Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We would also 
like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to protect 
the IHS from cuts during the 2024 appropriations process. Furthermore, 
we urge you to remember that Congress' trust and treaty responsibility 
to provide for the health and wellbeing of Tribal Nations exists 
irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. It is imperative that 
this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts necessary to fulfill its 
obligations. To that end, I offer the following recommendations for 
your consideration for FY 2025 appropriations for the IHS.
    Provide Full Funding for the Indian Health Service: The IHS and its 
Tribal partners under the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act strive to provide Tribal people with access to high 
quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with the Federal 
Government's trust and treaty obligations. However, chronic 
underfunding of the Indian health system has had detrimental impacts on 
our communities. Alaska Natives are disproportionately affected by 
obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, substance-use disorder and 
other largely preventable conditions. We therefore urge the 
subcommittee to work towards full and mandatory funding for the IHS, in 
line with the IHS Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup.
    The Workgroup has calculated it will take $54 billion to fully-fund 
the IHS. We understand that this represents a dramatic increase in 
funding; however, it is essential that Congress address the true needs 
of the Indian health system. We support their full request and 
reiterate the following four priorities for program expansion as 
follows:

    1) Hospitals and Clinics: $13.6 billion

    2) Mental Health: $4.5 billion

    3) Alcohol & Substance Abuse: $4.9 billion

    4) Dental Services: $3.2 billion

    Continued Support for Advance Appropriations for IHS: If full, 
mandatory appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we continue to 
support advance appropriations for the IHS in the short-term. This 
year's tumultuous appropriations cycle clearly demonstrates why advance 
appropriations are critical-IHS clinical services remained continuous 
throughout the volatile political process. We urge the subcommittee to 
extend advance appropriations to all IHS accounts, including Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction for FY 2026.
    Reduce Dependence on Federal Grants: We also support moving away 
from competitive grants for Federal funding mechanisms. Grants unfairly 
pit Tribes against each other for resources we are all entitled to. The 
Federal trust responsibility does not require that we jump through a 
myriad of hoops and onerous applications to see that services are 
provided to our citizens. Too often, Tribes are under-resourced to 
apply for Federal grants and comply with their reporting requirements. 
Our staff must divert time to apply and report, thereby diluting the 
usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request wide-spread, formula-
based funding across all programs. Tribes must also be granted the 
flexibility needed to respond to the specific needs of their own 
communities, not those prescribed by Federal grants. This also means 
appropriating enough resources so funds are provided in meaningful 
amounts across all Tribes. We join other Tribal leaders in calling for 
broad based funding for Indian Country.
    Permanently Exempt the IHS from Cuts, Sequestrations, and 
Rescissions: As demonstrated above, the Indian health system is 
chronically underfunded, with current appropriations sitting around 
one-seventh of need. Nevertheless, Congress routinely threatens and 
enacts additional budget cuts, sequestrations, and rescissions 
affecting the IHS. As recently as FY 2024, this Congress rescinded $350 
million marked for public health infrastructure from the IHS. 
Furthermore, the IHS is the only federally funded service providing 
direct patient care not exempt from sequestration.
    We remind this subcommittee again that its trust and treaty 
obligations to Tribes exist regardless of any self-imposed budget 
control measures. In fact, the IHS budget remains so small in 
comparison to the National budget that cuts, rescissions, and 
sequestrations do not result in any meaningful savings in the National 
debt, but they do devastate Tribal Nations and their citizens. We urge 
Congress to ensure that any budget cuts, whether automatic or explicit, 
hold IHS and our people harmless.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: We appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that 
CSC and section 105(l) lease payments are fully funded. However, these 
line items continue to take up a larger and larger percentage of the 
IHS discretionary budget, thereby leaving little room to expand other 
services given the tight budget environment. We strongly agree with the 
subcommittee's words in the explanatory statement for the Further 
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116-94) regarding 
105(l) costs which said, in part: ``Obligations of this nature are 
typically addressed through mandatory spending, but in this case, since 
they fall under discretionary spending, they are impacting all other 
programs funded under the Interior and Environment Appropriations bill, 
including other equally important Tribal programs.''
    Therefore, we ask you to continue to advocate with your colleagues 
on authorizing committees to enact mandatory appropriations for CSC and 
105(l) lease costs. Doing so will ensure that other areas of the IHS 
budget are held harmless by these costs and true increases in critical 
services line items can move forward. This will enhance care for Tribal 
patients and reduce health disparities.
    Support Expansion of the IHS Joint Venture Program. The IHS Joint 
Venture program provides Tribes with a critical opportunity to build 
new facilities and to enhance health services for their patients. Under 
this project, Tribes can build or acquire a facility with non-IHS 
funds, and the IHS commits to funding the additional staffing and 
operations costs associated with the new or expanded facility. The 
program has been very popular, with close to forty facilities built, 
acquired, or renovated since 1992. Yet, despite the remarkable success 
of this program, projects like ours remain unfunded by IHS. Recently, 
the Native Village of Eyak was on the top 10 list of projects, having 
received a high-score in the application. But we were not funded 
because the IHS only funds the top five projects. We request that the 
Committee direct IHS to fund all high-scoring applicants for JV 
construction projects.
    Additionally, the JV Program currently leaves Tribal facilities 
without necessary maintenance and replacement funds. The Indian Health 
Care Improvement Act requires that the Tribe lease the facility to IHS 
for 20 years at no cost. The JV facility is eligible to receive a share 
of IHS's perennially insufficient Maintenance and Improvement (M&I) 
funding, but is not eligible for a lease under section 105(l) of the 
ISDEAA. This leads to the anomaly that non-JV facilities can be fully 
funded under 105(l), receiving either fair market rental or the cost 
elements set out in the regulations, while JV facilities are stuck with 
nothing but M&I. We request that Congress amend the Indian Health Care 
Improvement Act to correct this issue. We are happy to provide any 
technical assistance necessary.
    Amend ISDEAA to Clarify CSC provisions. We also request that the 
committee consider amending the ISDEAA to clarify that when agency 
funding paid to a Tribe for program operations is insufficient for 
contract and compact administration, CSC will remain available to cover 
the difference. In the recent court decision Cook Inlet Tribal Council, 
Inc. v. Dotomain,\1\ a Federal appeals court held that costs for 
activities normally carried out by IHS are ineligible for payment as 
CSC-even if IHS transfers insufficient, or even no, funding for these 
activities in the Secretarial amount. Under this new ruling, if 
facility costs are higher for a Tribe than for IHS, the Tribe is forced 
to cover the difference by diverting scarce program dollars. Recently, 
this serious misinterpretation of the ISDEAA that has been applied to 
one Tribal organization resulting in a 90% reduction of CSC 
reimbursement threatens Tribal self-governance and self-determination. 
Therefore, we call upon Congress to provide a legislative fix to 
clarify the intent of Congress for this matter, and ensure consistency 
with precedent.
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    Fully fund critical infrastructure investments: We were 
disappointed to see that this subcommittee approved cuts to Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 2024. The Indian health 
system's infrastructure is among the oldest and most dilapidated in the 
country. This is especially true in Alaska, where more than half of 
homes in thirty-one Alaska Native communities lack proper sanitation 
infrastructure. Additionally, we continue to experience significant 
challenges finding adequate housing for staffing for health 
professionals in our community. As you know, health staffing shortages 
across the Indian health system are dire, and providing adequate living 
spaces for professionals is directly linked with our ability to recruit 
and retain staff.
    Therefore, we request that this subcommittee restore and fully-fund 
these accounts. To implement an interoperable Electronic Health Records 
and telehealth system, $801 million is needed for FY 2025. As you are 
aware, this investment is especially critical as the Veterans' 
Administration and Department of Defense move to modernize their 
systems. It is also critical that Congress make significant investments 
in Health Care Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities 
Construction. IHS and Tribal facilities are severely outdated, and we 
appreciate Congress' investment in IHS sanitation facilities through 
the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Yet, with a multi-billion-dollar 
backlog and growing inflation, funding to close out the list is not 
keeping pace with need. This creates situations where facilities are 
unfit and unsafe. Therefore, consistent with the Workgroup's request, 
we recommend $2.8 billion for Health Care Facilities Construction and 
Equipment and $2.2 billion for Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 
2025.
    Extend Self-Governance Funding Options to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (SDPI) and increase funding to $250 million/year. 
While we understand that SDPI is not under the jurisdiction of the 
subcommittee, we appreciate that Congress included a short-term 
extension of SDPI in FY 2024 appropriations at a $160 million 
annualized rate. We recognize that this is the first increase for SDPI 
in two decades. Communities like ours across Indian Country rely on 
SDPI resources to address the alarming rates of diabetes and diabetes-
related health complications among our people. SDPI's success rests in 
the flexibility of its program structure that allows for the 
incorporation of culture and local needs into its services. Consistent 
with this model, Congress should authorize SDPI participants the option 
of receiving their Federal funds through either a grant (as currently 
used) or self-governance funding mechanisms under ISDEAA.
    Additionally, SDPI has not had a meaningful increase in funding 
since FY 2004 despite its overwhelming success. Short term 
reauthorizations continue to destabilize this program and make staffing 
and program continuity difficult. For this reason, we recommend 
permanent reauthorization for SDPI at a minimum base of $250 million 
per year with annual adjustments for inflationary increases. We urge 
you to work with your Congressional colleagues to enact this important 
priority.
    Behavioral Health: Our community, like all of Indian Country, has 
been devastated by the ongoing fentanyl and opioid epidemic. 
Nevertheless, funds for these services are extremely limited. For 
example, in FY 2024, Congress only appropriated $2 million to fund 
essential detoxification related services. That's less than $1 per IHS 
patient. We urge the subcommittee to dedicate resources to 
detoxification and reemphasize the importance of fully-funding the 
following accounts: Health Care Facilities Construction, Alcohol & 
Substance Use, and Mental Health. We also fully support the President's 
Domestic Supplemental Request, which includes a $250 million investment 
in the IHS to address the fentanyl and opioid epidemic. Recognizing 
that Indian Country cannot wait any longer, Congress should consider 
this request as soon as possible.

    [This statement was submitted by Brooke Kwiik Mallory, Chair, 
Native Village of Eyak.]
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            Prepared Statement of Native Village of Kotzebue
Recommendations:

    1. Increase funding for Tribal Family Courts

    2. Fully Fund the Bureau of Indian Affairs' Indian Child Welfare 
Act (ICWA) Account

    3. Provide Direct Funding for Language Revitalization Activities

    4. Provide full, mandatory funding for the Bureau of Indian Affairs 
(BIA)

    5. Provide advance appropriations to the BIA

    6. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country

    7. Permanently exempt the BIA from cuts, sequestrations, and 
rescissions

    8. Enact mandatory funding for contract support costs (CSC) and 
section 105(l) leases

    Introduction. Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member 
Murkowski, and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share 
our funding priorities for FY 2025. My name is Qaiqpak Christina 
Hensley, and I am the Executive Director of the Native Village of 
Kotzebue. We are a Federally-recognized Tribal government representing 
the Qikiqtagrunmiut, the original inhabitants Qikiqtagruk (Kotzebue). 
Qikiqtagruk is located in northwest Alaska, thirty miles above the 
Arctic Circle on the Baldwin Peninsula. We operate a variety of 
programs such as realty, general assistance, child welfare, education, 
housing, and natural resource management. We are currently working on 
expanding our Tribal immersion school (Nikaitchuat Illisagviat) and 
establishing a Tribal Family Courts Program.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
Indian Country in recent years via the CARES Act, American Rescue Plan 
Act, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, and Inflation Reduction Act. The 
direct funding model and successful implementation of these laws prove 
that when Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We 
would also like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to 
protect Indian Country from cuts during the 2024 appropriations 
process. Furthermore, we urge you to remember that Congress' trust and 
treaty responsibility to provide for the wellbeing of Tribal Nations 
exists irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. It is 
imperative that this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts 
necessary to fulfill its obligations. To that end, I offer the 
following FY 2025 recommendations for your consideration.
    Provide Increased, Sustained Funding for Tribal Family Courts. Our 
top priority is to increase funding to Tribal Family Courts. We 
recently received one-time funding to establish a Tribal Family Courts 
program for which we are very grateful. Its mission is the protect the 
health, safety, and welfare of the Kotzebue people and Tribe by 
addressing problems locally through the application of unwritten 
cultural traditions and written Tribal ordinances. However, we remain 
hesitant to launch the program without it being a part of our annual 
funding agreement. We therefore ask this subcommittee to increase 
funding to the BIA's Tribal Justice Support and Tribal Courts accounts 
in the amounts of $45.7 million and $1.2 billion, respectively. We 
understand that this represents a dramatic increase in funding; 
however, it is essential that Congress address the true needs of Tribal 
justice programs like the one we are standing up.
    Fully Fund the BIA's ICWA Account. The Native Village of Kotzebue 
is currently engaged in multiple efforts to expand and improve our 
Tribal Family Services Department. However, we face challenges securing 
the funding necessary to provide the full scope of services that our 
families deserve, such as implementing our ICWA program. As you know, 
ICWA was a landmark law that has since greatly improved the outcomes of 
Alaska Native and American Indian children and families involved with 
the child welfare system. The BIA provides base funding to Tribes for 
their ICWA programs, but appropriations to this account have been 
woefully inadequate for decades. We are asking you to fully fund the 
BIA's ICWA account at $46.2 million.
    Provide Direct Funding for Language Revitalization Activities. As 
previously mentioned, we have established an Inupiaq language immersion 
school called Nikaitchuat Illisagviat. Its mission is to instill within 
our citizens knowledge of the Inupiaq language, culture, and identity. 
However, there is no direct funding available for these activities-we 
must instead sustain our school on community contributions and grant 
funding. Not only is this inconsistent with the Federal Government's 
trust and treaty responsibilities to Tribal Nations, but it is also 
problematic because immersion schools require consistent, proper 
funding to be most effective. We thank Congress for its attention to 
language revitalization in recent years, but we urge you to do more by 
establishing a direct funding mechanism for these activities. 
Specifically, we request an increase in funding to the BIA's existing 
language programs and authorization for Tribes to receive this funding 
annually in self-governance agreements, rather than through a 
competitive grant model.
    Provide Full Funding for the BIA. In addition to the accounts 
mentioned above, we urge the subcommittee to fully fund all Indian 
Country programs and move them to mandatory spending. The United 
States' trust and treaty responsibility to Tribes is obligatory and 
should be treated as such in the Federal budget. Discretionary 
appropriations have never, and will never, result in adequate funding 
for Indian Country. As it stands, Alaska Natives and American Indians 
are disproportionately affected by poverty, unemployment, crime, 
substance-use disorder, housing insecurity, poor educational outcomes, 
and involvement with the child welfare system. This is an affront to 
our dignity and sovereignty. We ask the subcommittee to rectify this by 
fully funding the Indian Affairs budget at $23.7 billion, in line with 
the Tribal Interior Budget Council.
    Support for Advance Appropriations for the BIA. If full, mandatory 
appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we support the provision 
of advance appropriations for the BIA in the short term. This year's 
tumultuous appropriations cycle clearly demonstrates why advance 
appropriations are so critical-BIA programs were regularly in a State 
of uncertainty due to Congress' reliance on continuing resolutions. The 
Federal Government's trust and treaty responsibilities should not be 
held hostage by unrelated political disputes in Washington, D.C. We 
urge the subcommittee to extend advance appropriations to all Indian 
Affairs accounts.
    Reduce Dependence on Federal Grants: We support moving away from 
competitive grants for all Federal funding mechanisms. Grants unfairly 
pit Tribes against each other for resources we are all entitled to. The 
Federal trust responsibility does not require that we jump through a 
myriad of hoops and onerous applications to see that services are 
provided to our citizens. Too often, Tribes are under-resourced to 
apply for Federal grants and comply with their reporting requirements. 
Our staff must divert time to apply and report, thereby diluting the 
usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request widespread, formula-
based funding across all programs. Tribes must also be granted the 
flexibility needed to respond to the specific needs of their 
communities, not those prescribed by Federal grants. This also means 
appropriating enough resources so funds are provided in meaningful 
amounts across all Tribes. We join other Tribal leaders in calling for 
broad-based funding for Indian Country.
    Permanently Exempt the BIA from Cuts, Sequestrations, and 
Rescissions: As demonstrated above, the BIA is chronically underfunded, 
with current appropriations sitting around one-tenth of need. 
Nevertheless, Congress routinely threatens and enacts additional budget 
cuts, sequestrations, and rescissions affecting the BIA. We remind this 
subcommittee again that its trust and treaty obligations to Tribes 
exist regardless of any self-imposed budget control measures. In fact, 
the BIA budget remains so small in comparison to the National budget 
that cuts, rescissions, and sequestrations do not result in any 
meaningful savings in the National debt, but they do devastate Tribal 
Nations and their citizens. We urge Congress to ensure that any budget 
cuts, whether automatic or explicit, hold BIA and our people harmless.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: We appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that 
CSC and section 105(l) lease payments are fully funded. However, these 
line items continue to take up a larger and larger percentage of the 
BIA discretionary budget, thereby leaving little room to expand other 
services given the tight budget environment. We strongly agree with the 
subcommittee's words in the explanatory statement for the Further 
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116-94) regarding 
105(l) costs which said, in part: ``Obligations of this nature are 
typically addressed through mandatory spending, but in this case, since 
they fall under discretionary spending, they are impacting all other 
programs funded under the Interior and Environment Appropriations bill, 
including other equally important Tribal programs.'' Therefore, we ask 
you to continue to advocate with your colleagues on authorizing 
committees to enact mandatory appropriations for CSC and 105(l) lease 
costs. Doing so will ensure that other areas of the BIA budget are held 
harmless by these costs and true increases in critical services line 
items can move forward.

    [This statement was submitted by Qaiqpak Christina Hensley, 
Executive Director, Native Village of Kotzebue.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Natural Science Collections Alliance
    The Natural Science Collections Alliance appreciates the 
opportunity to provide testimony in support of fiscal year (FY) 2025 
appropriations for the Smithsonian Institution and the Department of 
the Interior. We encourage Congress to make new investments that 
address agency backlogs and secure future efforts for the preservation, 
curation, growth and study of scientific and cultural collections 
within the Department of the Interior and the Smithsonian Institution. 
We request that Congress provide the National Museum of Natural History 
with at least $60 million in FY 2025, with new funding to correct for a 
lack of adequate increases in recent years. Please provide the United 
States Geological Survey (USGS) with at least $1.85 billion in FY 2025, 
with increased support for collections related activities.
    The Natural Science Collections Alliance is a non-profit 
association that supports natural science collections, their human 
resources, the institutions that house them, and their research 
activities for the benefit of science and society. Our membership 
consists of institutions that are part of an international network of 
museums, botanical gardens, herbaria, universities, and other 
institutions that contain natural science collections and use them in 
research, exhibitions, academic and informal science education, and 
outreach activities.
    Scientific collections, and the collections professionals and 
scientists who make, care for, and study these resources, are an 
important component of our Nation's research infrastructure. These 
collections and their associated experts contribute to the expansion of 
our bioeconomy. Whether held at a museum, government managed laboratory 
or archive, or in a university science department, these scientific 
resources form a coordinated network of specimens, samples, and data 
(e.g. genetic, tissue, organism, and environmental) that are a unique 
and irreplaceable foundation from which scientists are studying and 
explaining past and present life on earth.
    Preservation of specimens and the strategic growth of these 
collections are in the best interest of science and the best interest 
of taxpayers. Existing scientific collections that are properly cared 
for and accessible are a critical component of the US science 
infrastructure and are readily integrated into new research on 
significant questions. Specimens that were collected decades or 
centuries ago are now routinely used in research in diverse fields 
related to genomics, human health, biodiversity sciences, informatics, 
environmental quality, and agriculture.
    According to the U.S. Interagency Working Group on Scientific 
Collections (IWGSC), ``scientific collections are essential to 
supporting agency missions and are thus vital to supporting the global 
research enterprise.'' A 2020 report by the IWGSC highlights the long-
term benefits of scientific collections and presents a framework for 
estimating and documenting these benefits, both monetary and non-
monetary, generated by Federal institutional collections. In 2023, the 
IWGSC released another report enumerating the many ways Federal 
scientific collections have served the Nation in diverse areas, 
including with the COVID-19 response and improving national health, 
climate change research and mitigation, ensuring the Nation's food 
security, as well as environmental health and safety.
    Additional recent reports have highlighted the value of mobilizing 
biodiversity specimens and data in spurring new scientific discoveries 
that grow our economy, improve our public health and wellbeing, and 
increase our National security. In 2019, the Biodiversity Collections 
Network (BCoN) issued a community informed call for the development of 
an Extended Specimen Network. The report, Extending U.S. Biodiversity 
Collections to Promote Research and Education, outlined a national 
agenda that leverages digital data in biodiversity collections for new 
uses. ``Science and industry rely on physical specimens housed in U.S. 
biodiversity collections,'' the report suggests. ``Rapid advances in 
data generation and analysis have transformed understanding of 
biodiversity collections from singular physical specimens, to dynamic 
suites of interconnected resources enriched through study over time. 
The concept of the 'extended specimen' conveys the current perspective 
of the biodiversity specimen as extending beyond the singular physical 
object, to potentially limitless additional physical preparations and 
digital resources.'' This endeavor requires robust investments in our 
Nation's scientific collections, whether they are owned by a Federal or 
state agency or are part of an educational institution or free-standing 
natural history museum or other types of research or educational 
centers.
    A 2020 report by the National Academies of Science, Engineering and 
Medicine (NASEM), Biological Collections: Ensuring Critical Research 
and Education for the 21st Century, argued that collections are a 
critical part of our Nation's science and innovation infrastructure and 
a fundamental resource for understanding the natural world. The 
report's recommendations for establishing an action center for 
biological collections and requiring specimen management plans for 
research proposals generating new specimens underscore the importance 
of biodiversity specimen collections and have been supported by the 
CHIPS and Science Act.
    A recently published white paper, ``Envisioning a Natural History 
Collections Action Center,'' summarizes the features and functions of 
an action center and underscores the essential role that collections 
play in medical science, human health, food security, pathogen-borne 
disease, biosecurity, a strong bioeconomy, mitigating the effects of 
climate change, and conserving ecological services for human use and 
subsistence. Such a center will provide leadership, support, and 
coordination for federal, non-federal, and private collections and 
enable transformative research to address grand societal challenges. 
Many Federal agencies have a role in supporting the establishment of an 
action center for biological collections, including the Smithsonian 
Institution and the Department of the Interior and its bureaus.
    All of the above reports articulate a common vision of the future 
of biological collections and emphasize the need to broaden and deepen 
these collections and associated data to realize the potential for 
biodiversity collections to inform 21st century science. Collections 
are a critical resource for advancing the knowledge needed to address 
current global challenges such as climate change, biodiversity loss, 
and pandemics. The COVID-19 crisis has demonstrated how humans are 
inextricably part of the natural world. Biological collections, their 
extended data, and the experts that build and study them are globally 
important for understanding where viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 exist in 
nature or when they cross from their current hosts to humans.
    The Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History 
(NMNH) is the central Federal partner in the curation and research on 
scientific specimens. Scientists at the NMNH care for 148 million 
specimens and ensure that the institution remains a global leader in 
scientific research and public engagement. To increase the availability 
of these scientific resources to researchers, educators, other Federal 
agencies, and the public, NMNH is working on a multi-year effort to 
digitize its collections. Funding is required to ensure this work is 
completed.
    The National Museum of Natural History is also working to 
strengthen curatorial and research staffing and to backfill positions 
left open by retirements and budget constraints. The current staffing 
level is insufficient to provide optimal care for the collections. 
Future curatorial and collections management staffing levels may be 
further jeopardized given insufficient funding increases in recent 
years. This lack of funding for collections care jeopardizes our 
bioeconomy at a time when critical investments are needed to leverage 
our network of collections to address the myriad issues facing the 
country.
    Interior is an important caretaker of museum collections as well; 
the Department and its bureaus collectively manage an estimated 206 
million museum specimens. Although many of the department's collections 
are located in bureau facilities, numerous artifacts and specimens are 
cared for in non-governmental facilities, such as museums and 
universities. The Interior Museum Program supports these collections by 
providing oversight, policy development, advocacy, technical 
assistance, training, and data management support.
    In addition, the USGS furthers the preservation, inventory, and 
digitization of geological scientific collections, such as rock and ice 
cores, fossils, and samples of oil, gas, and water. The National 
Geological and Geophysical Data Preservation program helps States with 
collections management, improves accessibility of collections data, and 
expands digitization of specimens to ensure their broader use. One 
example of the returns from this program is the potash mineral deposit 
discovered in Michigan that is valued at an estimated $65 billion. Rock 
samples from Michigan were entered into a national database, where 
private companies discovered the deposit's existence and potential for 
mining.
    USGS supports the documentation and conservation of native 
pollinators through its Native Bee Inventory and Monitoring Lab (BIML). 
Pollinators, such as bees, are critical components of ecosystems and 
play an integral role in wildlife and habitat management and 
restoration. Three-fourths of the world's flowering plants and about 35 
percent of the world's food crops rely on pollinators to reproduce. 
Given that pollinator populations are in decline globally, BIML's work 
in developing a nationwide method to inventory and monitor bee 
population trends on public lands is crucial.
    USGS had more than a million specimens of birds, mammals, 
amphibians, and reptiles that were housed at the Smithsonian's National 
Museum of Natural History. The Biological Survey Unit (BSU) consisted 
of USGS scientists stationed at the NMNH, where they conducted research 
on USGS-specimens of fish, reptiles, birds, and mammals that are 
curated at the NMNH. These specimens, data, and the research they 
enable have been critical for informing land and natural resource 
management decisions at the Department of the Interior, and have also 
supported decision-making by State and Tribal governments. This 
arrangement, dating back to 1889, was recently eliminated with the 
Smithsonian taking over care of these collections. The work that BSU 
supported and conducted at the NMNH was important and in the National 
interest. Adequate funding is required to ensure continued care for 
these valuable collections.
    The Bureau of Land Management manages nearly 4 million museum 
objects and archives and has a large backlog of cultural resources to 
inventory on public lands. Currently, only about 11 percent of public 
lands have been assessed for heritage resources. Such assessments need 
to be conducted before unique resources are lost to looting, vandalism, 
fire, or environmental change.
    The National Park Service must continue its investments in 
scientific collections in order to monitor the Nation's protected 
natural heritage, which means cataloging millions of museum objects and 
connecting the resulting databases to national and global data portals 
to monitor changes through time. The National Park Service curates a 
wide range of specimens and artifacts, from historical and cultural 
items to preserved tissues from protected species and living 
microorganisms collected in our National Parks. Several parks have made 
progress on addressing planning, environmental, storage, security, and 
fire protection deficiencies in museum collections, but much work 
remains, and present and future collections will be fundamental for 
effective management efforts.
                               conclusion
    Scientific collections are critical research infrastructure that 
help support the Nation's bioeconomy. Research specimens connect us to 
the past and are used to document and solve current problems. They 
allow us to predict threats to human health, find successful methods 
for ensuring food security, and address the impact of future 
environmental changes. Sustained investments in scientific collections 
are in our National interest.
    The budget for NMNH has not seen adequate increases in recent 
years. We urge Congress to provide NMNH with at least $60 million in FY 
2025 to allow the museum to undertake critical collections care, make 
needed technology upgrades, and conduct cutting edge research. Please 
support adequate funding for programs within Interior bureaus that 
support the preservation and use of scientific collections--a truly 
irreplaceable resource. We urge Congress to provide the USGS with at 
least $1.85 billion in FY 2025, with increased support for collections.
    Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of this request.

    [This statement was submitted by Gil Nelson, Ph.D., President, 
Natural Science Collections Alliance.]
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              Prepared Statement of the Nature Conservancy
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to submit recommendations 
for fiscal year 2025 (FY25) appropriations. The Nature Conservancy 
(TNC) is a nonprofit conservation organization working around the world 
to protect ecologically important lands and waters for people and 
nature. Investments in our natural systems help bolster resiliency, 
respond to climate change and, if equitably implemented, aid socially 
and economically disadvantaged communities. Recent investments support 
but do not supplant the need for ongoing program funding through the 
appropriations process. A robust appropriations package is needed to 
ensure long-term success for critical programs under the subcommittee's 
jurisdiction.
    Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF). We are grateful for the 
Committee's continued leadership and support for conservation and 
recreation needs through dedicated funding of LWCF. Project demand in 
every State and county continues to far outstrip the $900 million a 
year of available funding for the program. TNC appreciates the 
continued support from Congress to improve the appraisal process and 
real estate policies of agencies delivering LWCF programs.
    Forest Restoration and Fire. TNC recommends funding for U.S. Forest 
Service (USFS) and Department of the Interior (DOI) programs that 
address forest threats like catastrophic wildfires, disease outbreaks 
and pest impacts. TNC supports substantial reinvestments in programs 
that increase forest resilience, specifically those that are 
collaboratively developed, science-based, climate-informed and 
ecologically focused. These programs also create jobs, support local 
economies and reduce wildfire risk to communities, among other 
benefits.
    An estimated 50 million acres are in critical need of wildfire 
resilience treatments across the United States. A 2021 TNC report 
recommends an investment surge of $5-6 billion per year over the next 
10 years to increase wildfire resilience and provide communities with 
much-needed resources for infrastructure and adaptation. In 2023, TNC 
released another report detailing 88 comprehensive wildfire policy 
recommendations backed by a diverse group of partners.
    TNC recommends investing in the USFS Hazardous Fuels Program at 
$207 million and DOI's Fuels Management Program at $288 million. In 
addition, TNC supports fully funding the Collaborative Forest Landscape 
Restoration Program at $34 million and the State Fire Assistance at a 
minimum of $76 million. TNC also supports funding Burned Area 
Rehabilitation at a minimum of $20 million in order to address the gap 
in post-fire restoration needs.
    Investing in Ecosystem Restoration, Reforestation and Planting. TNC 
supports sufficient funding for programs that enhance water quality, 
biodiversity and forest health. TNC recommends funding the Urban and 
Community Forestry program at a minimum of $40 million to support the 
increase in tree cover in urban landscapes to improve air quality, 
reduce electricity and help cities mitigate stormwater and floodwater. 
TNC also recommends budgeting $20 million for the Landscape Scale 
Restoration (LSR) Program. LSR promotes science-based restoration of 
priority forest landscapes across multiple jurisdictions.
    Additionally, Vegetation and Watershed Management promotes 
restoration and climate resilience of national forests through 
watershed treatment, invasive plant species control and reforestation. 
TNC supports a funding level for this program at or above $33 million 
in FY25.
    Research and Planning. TNC recommends sufficiently funding research 
programs to include the USFS Research and Development Program (with 
carve-outs for climate research and climate hubs), Forest Inventory and 
Analysis (FIA) and Joint Fire Science for USFS and DOI. Advances in FIA 
measuring and monitoring are critical for public and private forest 
carbon management. Investments in the Joint Fire Science programs would 
provide applied science solutions to improve land management and 
protect communities through interagency partnerships.
    The Land Management, Assessment and Monitoring program provides 
foundational stewardship direction to USFS related to high-carbon, 
mature and old-growth forests on public lands. In FY25, TNC supports 
funding this program at $32 million, $10 million of which should go 
toward developing adaptive strategies for the conservation of old-
growth forests and to assist USFS in creating a national old-growth 
monitoring network.
    State, Private and Tribal Forestry. Forest health protection 
programs work to minimize the impacts caused by invasive pests and 
disease. The Federal Lands Forest Health Management and the Cooperative 
Lands Forest Health Management programs help maintain carbon stocks and 
reduce outbreaks that destroy iconic American trees. TNC supports 
funding levels for these programs at a minimum of $17 million (federal) 
and $33 million (cooperative).
    Additionally, TNC supports reducing barriers for private landowners 
to reforest and improve management of their lands. The USFS Forest 
Stewardship Program supports landowners to sustainably manage their 
forests, with far-reaching cross-boundary benefits. TNC asks that this 
program be funded at $22 million in FY25.
    Endangered Species. TNC supports continuing funding of at least $60 
million for the Cooperative Endangered Species Conservation Fund. This 
funding supports critical matching grants to States and territories for 
conservation and species recovery efforts on non-federal lands. TNC 
requests the subcommittee's continued support for Habitat Conservation 
Plan (HCP) funding and HCP Land Acquisition Grants.
    State and Tribal Wildlife Grants. Substantial Federal investments 
are essential to support strategic actions by State, Tribal and Federal 
agencies and the conservation community to protect wildlife and their 
habitats. TNC appreciates the continued support from members of this 
subcommittee to address these significant funding needs through ongoing 
work to enact the Recovering America's Wildlife Act.
    Wildlife Conservation Programs. TNC urges the subcommittee to 
continue funding for North American Wetlands Conservation Act grants, 
the Neotropical Migratory Bird Conservation Fund, Migratory Bird Joint 
Ventures, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) Migratory Bird 
Management Programs and FWS Coastal Program at no less than the FY24 
funding levels. Likewise, TNC supports continued strong funding for the 
Partners for Fish and Wildlife Program, the Cooperative Landscape 
Conservation and Adaptive Science programs and the National Fish 
Habitat Initiative.
    International Programs. Programs appropriated annually within DOI 
and USFS with a global focus include DOI's Office of International 
Affairs, FWS Multinational Species Conservation Funds, FWS Wildlife 
Without Borders regional and global programs, the National Park 
Service's International Program and the USFS International Program. TNC 
requests modest increases over FY24 funding levels for these accounts 
and supports implementation of the Lacey Act to manifest U.S. global 
leadership.
    National Wildlife Refuge System. Found in every State and 
territory, national wildlife refuges conserve the diversity of 
America's environmentally sensitive and economically vital ecosystems, 
including oceans, coasts, wetlands, deserts, tundra, prairies and 
forests. TNC supports increased funding for the system's operations and 
maintenance accounts to meet the well-documented needs of the National 
wildlife refuge system. We support funding for the refuge system at the 
President's requested level of $602 million in FY25.
    Sage Grouse Conservation. TNC requests $85 million to support the 
implementation of the Greater Sage-Grouse Conservation Strategy (BLM: 
$75 million, FWS: $5 million, U.S. Geological Survey (USGS): $5 
million). These resources are needed to implement on-the-ground 
projects and monitor habitat treatments, address rangeland fire and 
noxious and invasive grasses, fund suppression and restoration efforts 
and facilitate the partnership and science necessary for effective 
conservation in western States. TNC continues to request the removal of 
language that would bar FWS from proposing a rule to list the greater 
sage-grouse under the Endangered Species Act from the FY25 bill.
    BLM Land Management and Renewable Energy Development. TNC supports 
ongoing work to expedite renewable energy development, including 
funding to operationalize the Renewable Energy Coordination Offices and 
regional clean energy plans. TNC recommends robust funding to support 
BLM's thoughtful planning and management of public lands. This includes 
the National Landscape Conservation System at $65.8 million, the 
Resource Management Planning at $71.6 million, the consolidated 
Wildlife and Aquatic Habitat Management budget line at $153.359 million 
and the Renewable Energy Development program at $53 million.
    BLM's Aquatic Resources Program. Aquatic resources on BLM lands are 
among the most important, productive and diverse resources in the 
Nation. Overall, BLM stewards over 155,000 miles of streams and rivers, 
which provide drinking water to one in 10 Americans. Increasing support 
for BLM's aquatic resource management efforts is key to providing 
reliable water supplies, building long-term wildfire and drought 
resilience, and improving the ability of BLM to conserve the economic 
and resource values of public lands. BLM's Aquatic Resources Program 
also works to prevent the establishment and spread of aquatic invasive 
species and sustain public access to quality hunting, fishing and 
outdoor recreation opportunities. TNC requests $65 million for the BLM 
Aquatic Resources Program in FY25.
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Geographic Programs. 
TNC urges the subcommittee to continue robust funding for EPA's 
geographic programs, including the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative 
and the Chesapeake Bay, Puget Sound, Long Island Sound and Gulf of 
Mexico programs. These programs make significant contributions to 
protecting habitat, improving water quality and enhancing resilience in 
the large landscapes they encompass.
    Colorado River Basin Recovery Programs. The Upper Colorado River 
Endangered Fish Recovery Program and San Juan River Basin Recovery 
Implementation Program take a balanced approach to the recovery of four 
threatened and endangered fish species in the upper Colorado River 
basin. The FWS budget includes $1.64 million to support these programs 
as well as fish hatchery needs associated with the recovery plans. TNC 
supports the budget request for these programs in FY25.
    Restoring Rivers and Streams. Removing problematic dams and 
upgrading culverts can improve public safety and provide environmental, 
economic and social benefits. TNC recommends $30 million for the FWS 
National Fish Passage Program and funding increases for USFS barrier 
removal efforts including the Legacy Roads and Trails program; State, 
Private, and Tribal Forestry programs; and National Forest System 
programs such as Vegetation and Watershed Management. Even with 
enhanced spending levels under the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and 
Jobs Act, demand for aquatic connectivity funds far exceeds the amount 
of funding available.
    Federal Priority Streamgage (FPS) Network. USGS operates the FPS 
Network to provide continuous streamflow information at over 8,400 
locations nationwide. TNC supports $33 million for the FPS Network to 
maintain existing gages. TNC also requests $68 million in Cooperative 
Matching Funds (CMF) for streamgaging and protecting the approximately 
5,275 CMF-supported streamgages already in place and functioning 
nationwide. Lastly, TNC supports $35 million for the Next Generation 
Water Observation System to expand this program and allow USGS to 
modernize water data delivery systems across the United States.
    3D Elevation Program (3DEP): 3DEP sponsors satellite topographical 
mapping, a critical resource that provides communities with high-
quality elevation mapping. This information is vital for assessing and 
developing strategies to combat challenges such as flood risk, drought 
and erosion. It also informs investments in infrastructure, water 
resource management and protection and much more. The program also 
equips USGS and other Federal agencies with the best scientific 
information to prepare for threats from natural hazards. Understanding 
these threats can help prevent communities from developing in unsafe 
areas and can allow risk mitigation in developed areas. TNC supports 
continued funding of $42.9 million in FY25 for 3DEP.
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit TNC's recommendations for 
the FY25 Interior, Environment and Related Agencies Appropriations 
Bill.

    [This statement was submitted by Brent Keith, Federal Lands Policy 
Team Lead, The Nature Conservancy.]
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               Prepared Statement of the Nez Perce Tribe
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide this testimony on behalf 
of the Nez Perce Tribe (Tribe) as the Committee evaluates and 
prioritizes FY 2025 appropriations. This testimony covers funding for 
the needs of Tribal Nations regarding the Bureau of Indian Affairs 
(BIA), Indian Health Service (IHS), Environmental Protection Agency 
(EPA), U.S. Forest Service, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS).
    The Nimiipuu (Nez Perce People) want to acknowledge and thank this 
Committee for your efforts, on a longstanding, bipartisan basis, to 
understand the needs of Indian Country and advocate for increased 
appropriations to the many programs in your jurisdiction that benefit 
our citizens, our Tribal governments, and all members of our 
communities. We are deeply grateful that the many funding increases to 
Tribal programs in the final FY 2024 Consolidated Appropriations Act 
build on the increases Congress provided in FY 2023.
    Like any government, the Tribe performs a wide array of work and 
provides a multitude of services to its Tribal membership as well as 
the community at large. The Tribe has a health care clinic; a Tribal 
police force; a Social Services Department; and a comprehensive Natural 
Resources program that does work related to forestry, wildlife 
management, land services and land management, habitat restoration, air 
quality and smoke management, water quality, and sewer service. The 
Tribe also operates one of the largest fisheries departments of any 
Tribe in the Nation working on the recovery of listed species under the 
Endangered Species Act. Each of these programs is necessary and vital 
for the Tribe as a sovereign nation that preserves and protects the 
Treaty rights of the Nez Perce People and provides day-to-day 
governmental services to our members and surrounding communities.
    The Tribe has long been a proponent of self-determination for 
Tribes and believes our primary obligation is to protect the Treaty-
reserved rights of the Tribe and our members. All the Tribe's work is 
guided by this principle. The Tribe works extensively with many Federal 
agencies and proper funding for those agencies and their work with, 
for, and through Tribes is of vital importance. To accomplish this 
work, as members of this Committee frequently note, the United States 
must affirm its trust responsibility to Indian Tribes by properly 
funding programs. Overall, for FY 2025, the Tribe supports an increase 
of three percent over FY 2024.
                        bureau of indian affairs
    The Tribe requests that overall funding for the BIA and Bureau of 
Indian Education be maintained at FY 2024 levels or increased as 
recommended below for FY 2025. The Tribe also supports the indefinite 
appropriation, recommended in the President's budget request, for 
contract support costs at $426 million for BIA in FY 2025. The Tribe 
also recommends that these costs be reclassified from discretionary to 
mandatory.
    In relation to the BIA Public Safety and Justice account, the Tribe 
supports a $75.5 million increase to funding for law enforcement over 
what was enacted for that account in FY 2024. The Nez Perce Reservation 
spans 1,200 square miles, covering five counties, and has a mixture of 
Tribal and non-Tribal residents. The Tribe provides a full-service Law 
and Justice program and recently completed construction of a detention 
facility. The Tribe has a fully trained and staffed police force, a 
fully staffed Tribal court, a prosecutor, a public defender, and other 
personnel that perform related administrative functions. Currently, the 
Tribe contributes $3,785,480 to cover the shortfall in BIA funding for 
the Tribe's law enforcement/prison boarding and corrections, $743,997 
for judicial services/probation, $480,040 for prosecutorial services, 
and $318,057 for public defender services. This supplemental funding is 
derived from Tribal taxes on goods and fuel and Tribal gaming revenues 
that would otherwise be used for Tribal governmental services. For the 
Tribe to fulfill its law enforcement services obligation to the 
Reservation, an overall increase of $1,623,554 is needed. Funding for 
these programs, including operational costs for the new jail facility 
needs to be maintained and ultimately increased to account for 
shortfalls in funding the Tribe must absorb to continue the operation 
of these important services on the Reservation.
    The Tribe also relies on the BIA for funding for our work related 
to endangered species and protection of the Tribe's Treaty resources, 
including Chinook and steelhead salmon. The funding is used to 
supplement research efforts of the Tribe relative to other sensitive 
species. The Tribe recommends a $1 million increase for the BIA 
Endangered Species Program. This account provides the Tribe with 
technical and financial assistance to protect endangered species on 
trust lands. Also, the Tribe recommends an increase of $2.8 million for 
BIA Natural Resource Tribal Priority Allocations which will help 
increase Tribal land and management capabilities.
    In addition, the funding provided under the BIA Rights Protection 
Implementation account is critical to support the exercise of treaty-
reserved, off-reservation hunting and fishing for Tribes and items such 
as the Pacific Salmon Treaty. The Tribe supports the $6.9 million in 
funding proposed for FY 2025 for the Pacific Salmon Treaty. These funds 
provide the foundation for core program administration and treaty 
rights protection activities, such as harvest monitoring. These efforts 
are central to the Tribe's fisheries management responsibilities as 
established by the Nez Perce Treaties of 1855 and 1863 and further 
delineated in court decisions regarding implementation of hunting and 
fishing Treaty rights. It is also important to understand that this 
funding is used for job creation.
    The Tribe supports maintaining the FY 2024 funding level in FY 2025 
for the BIA Fish, Wildlife and Parks account. The Tribe, through our 
fisheries programs, has invested a significant amount of personnel and 
resources into the restoration of salmon. The States of Oregon, 
Washington, and Idaho, as well as sports fisheries, directly benefit 
from this work. These programs have been successful with funding under 
the Tribal Management and Development Program which is critical for the 
Tribe's management of fish and wildlife. We recommend a $4 million 
increase over FY 2024 funding for the Tribal Management and Development 
Program.
    The Tribe recommends continued funding for the Columbia River In-
Lieu Treaty Sites by providing at least the total of $4.6 million 
requested for FY 2025 to implement the Columbia River In-Lieu and 
Treaty Fishing Access Sites Improvement Act.
    The Tribe supports the proposal of $2.8 billion in permanent 
funding over 10 years for the Indian Water Rights Settlement Completion 
Fund to support the work of Tribes such as our work on the Palouse 
River Basin Adjudication.
                         indian health service
    The Tribe operates Nimiipuu Health, a health care clinic on the Nez 
Perce Reservation in Lapwai, Idaho, and its satellite facility located 
65 miles away in Kamiah, Idaho. Nimiipuu Health provides services to 
approximately 4,000 patients each year. Annually, this computes to at 
least 40,000 medical/dental provider visits which does not include 
pharmacy or laboratory visits.
    The Tribe applauds the $12.2 billion provided for IHS in FY 2024, 
which included $5.2 billion in advanced appropriations. We recommend 
maintaining these levels going forward, but it must be noted that this 
funding must be appropriated to keep pace with medical and non-medical 
inflation and with population growth. Recommendations of substantially 
increasing this funding have been supported by the Tribe.
    The Tribe also supports a substantial increase in funding for 
Purchased/Referred Care (P/RC) from the FY 2024 enacted level of $996.8 
to continue to meet the P/RC spending needs of Tribal health facilities 
caused by medical inflation.
    The Tribe supports funding for contract support costs for FY 2025 
at $979 million, a $10 million increase, as contained in the 
President's budget request. However, this change in funding should not 
be accomplished or be offset by reducing other funding for these 
agencies that would adversely affect services or programs. This funding 
should not be reduced by excessive set-asides for administration 
either.
    The Tribe recommends permanent, mandatory funding of the Special 
Diabetes Program for Indians, as proposed in the President's budget, 
recognizing that the proposed increase to $260 million is an important 
step forward. In that regard, similar levels of funding are recommended 
for mental health and substance abuse treatment. The current annual 
allocation for mental health and substance abuse, while very important, 
falls well below the financial needs to provide adequate care and 
treatment on reservations.
    Finally, the Tribe would like to express our support for the 
President's budget recommendation for 105(l) lease costs and to make 
the funding mandatory beginning in FY 2026.
                     u.s. fish and wildlife service
    Additional resources are needed to implement beneficial actions 
across the Columbia River Basin, including salmon propagation at 
national fish hatcheries, studies on conditions impacting fish, and 
habitat restoration efforts. The Tribe supports the President's Budget 
Request of $3 million for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's (USFWS) 
National Fish Hatchery Operations Program--Columbia River Basin Sub-
Activity in FY 2025. These funds are important for the operations of 
Kooskia National Fish Hatchery. The Tribe manages the hatchery pursuant 
to the terms of the Snake River Water Rights Act of 2004. The hatchery 
is in dire need of a new water supply system to reduce the 
extraordinary amount of sediment that accumulates in the current water 
at the facility so the Tribe can continue to meet its production goals.
    Second, the USFWS-administered State and Tribal Wildlife Grants 
program is an important and cost-effective expenditure for the Federal 
Government and is one of the few sources of funds Tribes can tap into 
for wildlife research. Over the last several years, the Tribe has 
received grants funding for work on diverse issues such as rare plant 
conservation and Condor habitat research. Continued funding for the 
State and Tribal Wildlife Grants program will allow recipient Tribes to 
build capacity and maintain involvement in key conservation issues. The 
Tribe strongly urges this Committee to not reduce, but instead 
increase, funding for these competitive grants to $75 million for 
formula grants and increase the Tribal share to $6.5 million.
                    environmental protection agency
    The Tribe works closely with EPA on many programs that are 
essential to the health and safety of the 18,000 Tribal and non-Tribal 
citizens residing within the Nez Perce Reservation. These programs also 
protect the Treaty-reserved resources of the Tribe that the United 
States has a trust obligation to preserve. These programs include the 
Clean Water Act 106 Program, the Clean Water Act 319 Nonpoint Source 
(NPS) Pollution Prevention Program, the Indian General Assistance 
Program, the Tribal Brownfields Response Program, the Underground 
Storage Tank Program, the Delegation of Nez Perce Federal 
Implementation Plan, the Clean Air Act 103 Grant-Nez Perce Tribe Air 
Quality Project, and the EPA Region 10 Pesticide Circuit Rider Program.
    The Tribe recommends that the Indian General Assistance Program be 
funded at $75 million, the Tribal allocation under the Clean Water Act 
106 program be increased by 20 percent, Tribal Air Quality Management 
be maintained at $16.3 million, the Brownfields Program be funded at 
$100 million, and a funding amount be specifically allocated in lieu of 
the percent cap on Tribal funding for NPS pollution control.
    The Tribe requests that, within Geographic Programs, the Columbia 
River Basin Restoration Program, authorized under the Water 
Infrastructure Improvements for the Nation Act of 2016, be funded at no 
less than the $3 million that was previously enacted, but recommends 
that number be substantially increased.
                          u.s. forest service
    The Tribe does a tremendous amount of work with the U.S. Forest 
Service, including landscape restoration and resource management. The 
Tribe entered into a Good Neighbor Authority agreement with the U.S. 
Forest Service in 2022 that will allow more collaboration on work that 
will help protect Treaty-reserved resources on forest system land. 
Receiving stable and consistent funding is important for this work to 
continue. In fact, we would recommend expansion of Good Neighbor 
Authority and stewardship contracting authority to include USFWS and 
the U.S. National Park Service as proposed in the FY 2025 budget 
request. Thank you.

    [This statement was submitted by the Nez Perce Tribe.]
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    Prepared Statement of the North American Lake Management Society
    The North American Lake Management Society (NALMS), a professional 
society working to foster the management and protection of lakes and 
reservoirs in the U.S., writes to request $71 million in annual funding 
for the Nonpoint Source Pollution Management Program (Section 319) be 
directed specifically for monitoring lakes, restoration of degraded 
lakes and protection of high quality lakes in the Environmental 
Protection Agency (EPA) budget for the fiscal year 2025 Interior, 
Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act. We recommend the 
language below for inclusion in the related Explanatory Statement.
    ``The Committee recognizes our Nation's lakes as the economic 
engine for surrounding communities and for the highly valued ecosystem 
services they provide including drinking water supplies, recreational 
and commercial fisheries, habitat for freshwater species, and nature-
based recreation, particularly for underserved communities. The 
Committee recognizes the significant potential to build resilience for 
communities and fish and wildlife through lake-focused protection and 
restoration. The Committee supports $71 million for EPA's Nonpoint 
Source Pollution Management Program (Section 319) specifically for 
monitoring and restoration of degraded lakes, ponds, and reservoirs and 
protection of high quality lakes, including lake restoration and 
protection activities previously funded under the section 314 Clean 
Lakes Program.''
    The primary focus of the EPA's water quality programs since 1994 
has been to restore impaired waters and reduce pollutant levels in 
waterways through the Nonpoint Source Management Program (Section 319). 
The EPA, state, Tribal and other partners have made, and continue to 
make, considerable progress in understanding and addressing the many 
sources of pollution to our Nation's waters. There is no doubt that 
they must continue to do so, and appropriations to Section 319 should 
continue to be a priority.
    Nevertheless, existing funding strategies are insufficient to 
reverse the declining water quality trends in U.S. lakes. From 1976 to 
1995, EPA's Clean Lakes Program (Section 314), was a highly successful 
mechanism for funding to States, to clean up individual, publicly owned 
lakes but it has not been funded since the 1990s. In the last 30 years, 
water quality in lakes throughout the U.S. has significantly declined.
    Today, Section 319 is the funding mechanism used to address the 
nutrient pollution that impacts lakes from runoff from the surrounding 
lands that drain into them, called their watershed. States and Tribes 
must compete for very limited funding to address lake water quality. 
Despite roughly 20% of the total 319 funding going to lake, reservoir, 
or pond projects, the US EPA National Lakes Assessments have shown that 
the percentage of lakes with the highest nutrient pollution (called 
eutrophic and hypereutrophic lakes) just keeps growing. Section 319 
funding is typically focused on reducing pollution at the watershed-
level, but recent proposed guidance from EPA will allow for in-lake 
interventions when the watershed reductions are insufficient alone. In-
lake interventions have been demonstrated to be successful on lakes 
with historic nutrient pollution loadings, but they are costly. 
Meanwhile, protection of the remaining high quality, low-nutrient 
polluted lakes is urgently needed to ensure future generations can 
experience crystal clear lakes that support cold water fisheries and 
unparalleled recreational and aesthetic experiences. States and Tribes 
will need access to more funding to not only protect the best of the 
remaining healthy lakes, but to restore the overwhelming majority of 
the Nation's lakes that suffer from excessive nutrient pollution.
    Successful lake management requires 1) lake monitoring and 
assessment, 2) diagnostic/feasibility studies to determine cause of 
poor water quality trends or status, 3) restoration and protection and, 
importantly, 4) funding for evaluation to determine if restoration has 
been successful. Because restoration is so costly, much of the 319 
funding goes to implementing restoration efforts at the expense of 
monitoring, protection, diagnostic studies and post-restoration 
evaluation. Significant additional appropriations are necessary to 
provide dedicated resources for the full suite of lake management 
strategies that are needed to meet the goals of the Clean Water Act for 
the Nation's lakes and reservoirs.
    The quality of lakes is expected to worsen as the frequency of 
extreme weather events increases and intensifies. Invasive species, 
nutrient loading, and harmful algal blooms will increasingly impair and 
degrade lakes, exacerbate the release of greenhouse gases, threaten 
human health, limit recreational opportunities, and decrease the 
economic value of lakes. Section 319 does not currently provide funding 
necessary to address these critical threats to water quality in lakes, 
ponds, and reservoirs. Americans value their remaining high quality 
freshwater lakes and the fish and wildlife they support, but very few 
resources are currently available to protect and preserve them. 
Doubling the amount of funding for lake projects from approximately $35 
million to $71 million in annual appropriations will certainly not meet 
the full need, but it will help to stabilize declining lake water 
quality.
    By prioritizing funding for lakes, you will support healthy and 
resilient waters, fish and wildlife, and communities. We appreciate 
your consideration of this request and look forward to working with you 
to ensure our Nation's lakes continue to provide a myriad of important 
benefits across the country.

    [This statement was submitted by Kellie Merrell, President, North 
American Lake Management Society.]
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      Prepared Statement of Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Honorable Members of 
the subcommittee, for the record my name is Ed Johnstone, and I am 
Chair of the Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission (NWIFC). The NWIFC 
is composed of the 20 Tribes in western Washington that are party to 
United States v. Washington, which upheld the Tribes' treaty-reserved 
right to harvest and manage natural resources on and off-reservation, 
including salmon and shellfish. On behalf of the NWIFC, we are 
providing written testimony on our natural resource management and 
environmental program funding requests for the Bureau of Indian Affairs 
(BIA), Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) and Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA) Fiscal Year 2025 appropriations. These programs support 
Tribes to carry out their natural resource management responsibilities 
including the management of Pacific salmon fisheries, which contribute 
to a robust natural resource-based economy and the exercise of our 
treaty rights.
       summary of fiscal year 2025 (fy25) appropriations requests
Bureau of Indian Affairs

  --Provide $66.0 million for Rights Protection Implementation 
        (collective request)

    --Provide $17.146 million for Western Washington Fisheries 
            Management

    --Provide $3.771 million for Washington State Timber-Fish-Wildlife

    --Provide $7.82 million for U.S./Canada Pacific Salmon Treaty

    --Provide $2.4 million for Salmon Marking

  --Provide $15.0 million for Fish, Wildlife & Parks Projects (non-TPA)

  --Provide $1.109 million for the Salmon and Steelhead Habitat 
        Inventory and Assessment Program within the Tribal Management/
        Development Program Subactivity

  --Fully Fund Contract Support Costs

  --Provide $2.0 million for Western Washington Treaty Tribes' Wildlife 
        Management

  --Provide $60.991 million for Tribal Climate Resilience

Fish & Wildlife Service

  --Provide $8.0 million for Tribal Wildlife Grants

Environmental Protection Agency

  --Provide $96.4 million for General Assistance Program

  --Provide $57.0 million for Puget Sound Geographic Program
                       justification of requests
Bureau of Indian Affairs

  --Provide $66.0 million for BIA Rights Protection Implementation 
        Subactivity

    The 41 Tribes in the Great Lakes and Pacific Northwest with similar 
treaty-reserved rights have collectively identified that no less than 
$66.0 million for the Rights Protection Implementation (RPI) 
subactivity is necessary to support essential Tribal treaty-reserved 
resource management. This request is a $16.8 million increase over the 
FY24 enacted level of $49.2 million. The large disparity between our 
collective request and the enacted level demonstrates that the basic 
natural resource management functions of the treaty Tribes continue to 
be underfunded. Faced with the difficult combination of increasing 
natural resource scarcity and cumulative environmental stressors, 
Tribal natural resource management has become more complex and resource 
intensive. Considering this challenge, additional capacity is needed to 
manage treaty-reserved resources and protect Tribal rights. 
Unfortunately, most of the programs under RPI, such as Western 
Washington Fisheries Management, have not received a meaningful 
increase since FY18. A summary of the subaccounts of importance to us 
within RPI are identified below.

    --Provide $17.146 million for BIA Western Washington Fisheries 
            Management

    We respectfully request $17.146 million, an increase of $5.543 
million over the FY24 enacted level of $11.603 million. Funding for 
this program supports the Tribes to co-manage their treaty-reserved 
resources with the state of Washington, and to continue to meet court 
mandates and legal responsibilities. For example, funding supports 
harvest planning, population assessments, data gathering for finfish, 
shellfish and groundfish, and other natural resource management needs. 
This funding is critical to support the day-to-day operations of 
essential fishery management. Reduced abundance and increased 
regulatory scrutiny of fisheries, coupled with ongoing salmon habitat 
loss, increased recreational pressures and climate change are greatly 
increasing the difficulty (and cost) of co-managing salmon and other 
resources.

    --Provide $3.771 million for BIA Washington State Timber-Fish-
            Wildlife (TFW)

    We respectfully request $3.771 million, an increase of $51,000 
above the FY24 enacted level of $3.720 million and level with the FY25 
President's Budget Request. Funding for this program is provided to 
improve forest practices on state and private lands, while providing 
protection for fish, wildlife and water quality. This funding supports 
the Tribes' participation in the TFW Agreement--a collaborative 
intergovernmental and stakeholder process between the state, industry 
and Tribes.

    --Provide $7.820 million for BIA U.S./Canada Pacific Salmon Treaty

    We respectfully request $7.820 million, an increase of $1.028 
million above the FY24 enacted level of $6.792 million. This request is 
consistent with that of the Pacific Salmon Commission and is necessary 
to implement the Annex chapters of the Pacific Salmon Treaty (PST). 
Tribes assist the U.S. government in meeting its obligations to 
implement the treaty by participating in fisheries management 
exercises, cooperative research and data gathering activities. This 
funding also supports participation in the PST process.

    --Provide $2.4 million for BIA Salmon Marking

    We respectfully request $2.4 million, an increase of $948,000 over 
the FY24 enacted level of $1.452 million. This request would support 
ongoing coded wire tagging and adipose fin clipping (marking) 
operations at Tribal hatcheries. Marking is used to differentiate 
hatchery-origin salmon from natural spawning ones. Since 2003, Congress 
has required that all salmon released from federally funded hatcheries 
are marked for conservation management purposes. Coded wire tags are 
used to provide a unique identifier to a particular hatchery stock, 
which is then used in salmonid abundance assessments and catch rates. 
The NWIFC uses automated trailers to provide efficient centralized 
tagging and marking services to our 20-member Tribes. This state-of-
the-art equipment is very complex and requires expert technicians to 
operate and maintain. The operations and maintenance of the trailers, 
coupled with an increasing demand for these important services, 
continue to increase our costs to carry out this Federal directive.

  --Provide $15.0 million for BIA Fish, Wildlife & Parks Projects (Non-
        TPA) for Hatchery Operations and Maintenance

    We respectfully request $15.0 million for Hatchery Operations and 
Maintenance within the Fish, Wildlife and Parks Projects account, an 
increase of $2.032 million over the FY24 enacted level of $12.968 
million. More specifically, we request $8.0 million for Hatchery 
Operations and $7.0 million for Hatchery Maintenance. This funding is 
provided to Tribal hatcheries to support the rearing and releasing of 
salmon and steelhead for harvest by Indian and non-Indian fisheries in 
the U.S. and Canada. Without hatcheries, Tribes would lose their most 
basic ceremonial and subsistence fisheries that are central to our 
Tribal culture. We currently estimate that more than 80% of the salmon 
harvested are hatchery-origin fish. Yet despite the central importance 
of these facilities, Tribes face millions of dollars in deferred 
maintenance costs and significant funding shortfalls in operations.

  --Provide $1.109 million for BIA Salmon and Steelhead Habitat 
        Inventory and Assessment Program (SSHIAP) (within the Tribal 
        Management/Development Program)

    We respectfully request $1.109 million for SSHIAP within the Tribal 
Management/Development Program, an increase of $202,000 above the FY24 
enacted level, of $907,000. SSHIAP is vital to the western Washington 
Tribes because it provides essential environmental data management, 
analysis, sharing and reporting to support Tribal natural resource 
management. It also supports our Tribes' ability to adequately 
participate in watershed resource assessments and salmon recovery work.

  --Fully Fund BIA Contract Support Costs

    We respectfully request that Congress fully fund Contract Support 
Costs (CSC) and reclassify CSC as mandatory. Funding for CSC ensures 
Tribes and Tribal organizations have the capacity to manage Federal 
programs under self-determination contracts and self-governance 
compacts.

  --Provide $2.0 million for Western Washington Treaty Tribes' Wildlife 
        Management

    We respectfully request $2.0 million for western Washington treaty 
Tribes' wildlife management programs from an account within the Bureau 
of Indian Affairs Trust--Natural Resources Management Activity. The 
member Tribes of the NWIFC reserved the right to fish, hunt and gather 
natural resources throughout their ceded territories. Part and parcel 
with the Tribes' reserved right to hunt and gather outside of their 
reservation boundaries is the need to co-manage wildlife resources with 
the State of Washington. Requested funding will provide capacity to 
participate in state-Tribal co-management forums, develop wildlife 
management plans, develop and enhance Tribal hunting codes, and design 
and implement applied research projects. These capabilities are 
fundamental to the protection of our Tribes' treaty rights and there is 
currently no dedicated account or funding to directly support this 
critical work.

  --Provide $60.991 million for BIA Tribal Climate Resilience

    We respectfully request $60.991 million for Tribal Climate 
Resilience, an increase of $26.0 million over the FY24 enacted level of 
$34.291 million. Climate change is one of the largest threats to Tribal 
rights and resources. Funding from this competitive grant program will 
support Tribal participation in critical issues that impact treaty-
reserved resources and promote climate resiliency.
                        fish & wildlife service
  --Provide $8.0 million for FWS Tribal Wildlife Grants

    We respectfully request $8.0 million for the Nationwide Tribal 
Wildlife Grants program, an increase of $1.8 million over the FY24 
enacted level of $6.2 million. Funding from this competitive grant 
program supports the conservation of wildlife and their habitat, 
including species that are culturally or traditionally important to 
Tribes. FWS is using Traditional Ecological Knowledge to build 
partnerships and relationships between conservation biologists and 
Tribes.
                    environmental protection agency
  --Provide $96.4 million for EPA General Assistance Program (GAP)

    We respectfully request $96.4 million for the Nationwide GAP, an 
increase of $24.20 million over the FY24 enacted level of $72.2 
million. We also respectfully request bill or report language that 
would improve flexibility in the GAP to ensure individual Tribal 
priorities and implementation activities would be eligible and that 
allocations will not result in a decreased proportion of funds for EPA 
Region 10 Tribes and consortia. The GAP builds essential Tribal program 
capacity to address environmental issues that impact Tribes' health, 
safety and treaty-reserved resources. The GAP also provides critical 
funding to Tribal consortia to support interTribal coordination on 
environmental issues.

  --Provide $57.0 million for EPA Puget Sound Geographic Program

    We respectfully request $57.0 million for Puget Sound, an increase 
of $3.0 million over the FY24 enacted level. This Geographic Program 
provides essential funding that will help protect and restore Puget 
Sound--an estuary of national significance. Funding for this program 
supports Tribal participation in a broad range of collaborative Puget 
Sound recovery work, including scientific research, resource recovery 
planning and policy discussions that affect our treaty rights.
                               conclusion
    We respectfully request the subcommittee's support for these 
requests. We greatly appreciate your attention to these matters and 
thank you for your continued commitment to the Tribes.

    [This statement was submitted by Ed Johnstone, Chair of the 
Northwest Indian Fisheries Commission.]
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 Prepared Statement of the Northwest Portland Area Indian Health Board
    Greetings Chairman Merkley and Ranking Member Murkowski, and 
Members of the subcommittee. My name is Nickolaus Lewis, and I serve as 
a Council Member on the Lummi Indian Business Council, the elected 
governing body of the Lummi Nation, and as Chair of the Northwest 
Portland Area Indian Health Board (NPAIHB or Board). I thank the 
subcommittee for the opportunity to provide testimony on the fiscal 
year (FY) 2025 Indian Health Service (IHS) budget.
    NPAIHB was established in 1972 and is a Tribal organization under 
the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act (ISDEAA), 
Public Law 93-638, that advocates on behalf of the 43 federally-
recognized Indian Tribes in Idaho, Oregon, and Washington on specific 
health care issues. The Board's mission is to eliminate health 
disparities and improve the quality of life for American Indians and 
Alaska Natives (AI/AN) by supporting Northwest Tribes in the delivery 
of culturally-appropriate, high-quality health care. ``Wellness for the 
seventh generation'' is the Board's vision. This subcommittee is 
critical to making this a reality. We thank the subcommittee for 
continuing to support increased funding for IHS every year.
    In August 2023, the NPAIHB organized a National Tribal Opioid 
Summit that convened over 1,000 Tribal leaders, providers, community 
members, including Federal and State officials, to discuss opioid 
prevention, care and treatment, data, and law and justice policy 
priorities in Tribal communities.

    Based on the Summit, we make the following IHS funding 
recommendations related to opioids and substance use:

    Increase Funding for Substance Use, including Prevention Services. 
Portland Area Tribes have long recognized how deeply opioid and 
substance use disorders impact their Tribal communities and the healing 
that can occur when our relatives receive effective treatment and 
support on their recovery journeys. IHS and Tribally operated programs 
must support an integrated behavioral health approach to 
collaboratively reduce the incidence of substance use disorders in AI/
AN communities. IHS substance use funding is used to provide a 
comprehensive array of preventive, educational, and treatment services 
that are community-driven and culturally competent. These collaborative 
activities strive to integrate substance use treatment into primary 
care. Additional funding focusing on harm reduction and peer support is 
desperately needed. For FY 2025, the IHS Tribal Budget Formulation 
Workgroup recommends $4.86 billion for the Substance Use subaccount.
    Increase facilities funding, including for medical facility 
construction, dual-diagnosis facilities, and medically supervised 
withdrawal/detoxification for adults and youth. The need for new 
healthcare facility construction at IHS was estimated to be $23 billion 
in 2021 (up 59% from 2016). There is an additional $1.5 billion backlog 
in maintenance to existing IHS facilities. IHS facilities are often not 
appropriate, or available, to meet the current needs of the patient 
population when it comes to opioid use disorder (OUD) and substance use 
disorder (SUD). In FY 2025, this subcommittee should allocate $5 
billion for Health Care Facilities Construction specific to OUD/SUD 
services such as detox facilities.
    Increase funding for Tribal data analytics at Tribes and TECs. Many 
Tribes do not have sufficient funding to employ health data analysts, 
biostatisticians, or epidemiologists. The priority is the provision of 
clinical services rather than data analysis. In FY 2025, more funding 
is needed for Tribes to hire analysts to evaluate data and drive 
community-based recommendations using Tribal specific data. In addition 
to funding staff at Tribes to do this work, each Tribal Epidemiology 
Center would benefit from stable ongoing funding to support substance 
use disorder and behavioral health analytics.

    For FY 2025, we also make the following ongoing recommendations 
from Portland Area Tribes:

    Provide Mandatory, Full Funding for IHS. Advance appropriations 
will resolve some of the challenges presented by annual discretionary 
funding but will not address the issue of funding adequacy. At the core 
of Indian health policy are the Federal Government's trust 
responsibility and treaty obligations. To address unfulfilled trust and 
treaty obligations towards Tribes and end unacceptable health 
disparities of AI/AN people, the IHS needs full and mandatory funding. 
Determining a figure for full funding that meets the true level of need 
deserves a thoughtful, measured, and tribally-driven approach that 
keeps pace with population growth and both medical and non-medical 
inflation. The National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup 
recommended, and our Area supported, the request of $53.85 billion to 
fully fund the IHS in FY 2025.\1\ Looking ahead to FY 2026, the 
National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup met in February 2024 and 
recommended $63 billion to fully fund the IHS in FY 2026.
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    Provide Mandatory Appropriation for ISDEAA Section 105(l) Leases 
and Contract Support Costs (CSC). Although we are appreciative of the 
subcommittee's support in securing an indefinite appropriation for 
105(l) lease agreements and CSC, we request that this subcommittee 
commit to moving 105(l) leases and CSC to mandatory appropriations 
accounts to ensure that these appropriations are funded year after year 
without impacting programmatic increases to IHS and Tribal health 
facilities. Portland Area Tribes are experiencing decreases in funding 
annually due to the rising annual cost of 105(l) leases and CSC.
    Increase Funding for Purchased and Referred Care (PRC). Portland 
Area Tribes have to purchase all specialty and inpatient care because 
there is no IHS hospital in the Portland IHS Area. The PRC program 
makes up over one-third of the Portland IHS Area budget. When there is 
no increase or consideration of population growth and medical 
inflation, Portland Area Tribes are forced to cut health services. 
Areas with IHS hospitals can absorb these costs more easily because of 
their infrastructure and large staffing packages. Substantial PRC 
funding is a top priority for us. As long as the PRC program remains 
severely underfunded, the ability for AI/ANs to access specialty and 
inpatient health care will be threatened. Every year PRC is the second 
rated funding priority of the National Tribal Budget Formulation 
Workgroup--a top priority of Portland Area Tribes. The PRC subaccount 
receives only a nominal annual increase (i.e., average of 1%) and FY 
2024 had no increase. In FY 2025, we request that this subcommittee 
honor the request of the National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup 
and fund PRC at $9.14 billion.
    Fund Expansion of Community Health Aide Program. NPAIHB has 
successfully established a Community Health Aide Program (CHAP) in the 
Portland IHS Area, working closely with Tribes to set up the Portland 
Area CHAP Certification Board and to build education programs. Students 
are attending our Dental Health Aide Therapists (DHAT) and Behavioral 
Health Aides (BHA) education programs, and Community Health Aide 
education program is in development. Stable funding is necessary to 
ensure that the programs are accessible to our students and can best 
meet the health care needs of the Tribes they will serve. For FY 2025, 
we request $60 million for continuation of the National expansion with 
$10 million for Portland Area to continue to expand CHAP.
    Increase Funding for Mental Health In our Area and nationwide, 
there are high rates of depression and anxiety in our communities. 
Portland Area Tribes need funding to address mental health provider 
shortages and expand services. NPAIHB is particularly concerned about 
our AI/AN youth. Suicide is the second leading cause of death for AI/AN 
adolescents and young adults. AI/AN suicide mortality in this age group 
(10-29) is 2-3 times greater, and in some communities 10 times greater, 
than that for non-Hispanic whites. For FY 2025, the IHS Tribal Budget 
Formulation Workgroup recommends $4.46 billion for Mental Health 
subaccount.
    Fund Youth Regional Treatment Center Construction. Portland Area 
Tribes have prioritized the need for Youth Regional Treatment Centers 
(YRTC) to address the ongoing issues of substance abuse and co-
occurring mental health issues among AI/AN youth through the provision 
of clinical services, post-treatment follow-up services, and 
transitional living. While there are two Tribal facilities providing 
enhanced behavioral health services to youth and familes in the 
Portland IHS Area, the Healing Lodge of the Seven Nations and Native 
American Rehabilitation Association of the Northwest, more facilities 
are needed. In FY 2025, this subcommittee must fund an expansion of 
YRTC facilities across Indian country.
    Increase Small Ambulatory Program and Joint Venture Construction 
Program Funding. Portland Area Tribes do not support funding for new 
facilities construction under the current IHS Healthcare Facilities 
Construction Priority System because the structure of the existing 
system does not benefit Portland Area Tribes nor equitably benefit 
Areas nationally. For FY 2025, the National Tribal Budget Formulation 
Workgroup recommended a continuation of vital resources for the Small 
Ambulatory Program (SAP) with funding at $50 million and also 
recommended expansion of the Joint Venture Construction Program (JVCP) 
with funding for staffing and equipment. NPAIHB requests that the 
subcommittee provide future increases accordingly.
    Create New Source of Funding for Health Care Facilities 
Construction at $14.5 billion. In its recommendations for FY 2025, the 
National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup recommended at least $14.5 
billion in facilities construction funding be made available outside of 
the current IHS Healthcare Facilities Construction Priority System 
(HFCPS) as a new, equitable source of funding that will provide access 
to construction funds and demonstration projects under the Indian 
Health Care Improvement Act at 25 U.S.C. Sec. 1637. The Portland Area 
Facilities Advisory Committee (PAFAC) completed a pilot study in 2009 
to evaluate the feasibility of regional referral centers in the IHS 
system, and determined the Portland IHS Area needed three regional 
specialty referral centers. The U.S. Department of Health and Human 
Services partnered with IHS to identify funds to construct the first 
facility in Puyallup (Washington State). This innovative facility will 
provide services such as medical and surgical specialty care, specialty 
dental care, audiology, physical and occupational therapy, as well as 
advanced imaging and outpatient surgery. Some Tribes in our area 
request that the facility include inpatient mental health/substance use 
treatment. It is anticipated that this facility will provide services 
for approximately 50,000 users within the regional service area as well 
as an additional 20,000 in telemedicine consults. For FY 2025, funding 
to complete the first facility is needed in the amount of approximately 
$150 million. In addition, we request funding for the two remaining 
regional specialty referral centers to ensure these services can be 
accessed by IHS beneficiaries throughout the Portland IHS Area.
    Make Health IT Modernization Project Funding Available to Tribes. 
The IHS Health Information Technology (IT) Modernization Program is a 
multi-year effort to modernize health IT systems for IHS, Tribal, and 
Urban Indian health care programs into the 21st century. The software 
currently supported by IHS was implemented 38 years ago. Northwest 
Tribes are in a double bind--we want the IHS Health IT Modernization 
program to be fully funded, and the new EHR implemented because 
Northwest Tribes receiving services directly from IHS need health IT 
systems that support 21st century care for our people. Conversely, many 
Tribes in the Northwest have made significant investments of time, 
talent, and cash to modernize their health IT systems because their 
leadership exercised their rights under self-governance and realized we 
cannot afford to wait when the health of our people is at stake. Tribes 
must be reimbursed by IHS for the funds they have spent to purchase 
Health IT systems, and all Tribes must have access to 21st century 
technology in their health care delivery systems. For FY 2025, we 
request that this subcommittee hold the IHS accountable, through report 
language, for the prudent use of appropriated funds, and ensure funding 
be made available to both implement the IHS Health Technology 
Modernization Program as rapidly as possible and also direct IHS to 
reimburse and provide ongoing financial support for Tribal health 
facilities that have already purchased and implemented commercial off-
the-shelf EHR systems.
    Increase Funding for HIV and HCV Initiatives. From 2013 through 
2017, rates of new diagnoses of HIV for AI/AN people increased to 7.8 
per 100,000--although rates decreased or stayed stable for all other 
racial and ethnic groups. Chronic Hepatitis C Virus (HCV) is the 
leading cause of cirrhosis, liver cancer, and liver transplants in the 
United States. AI/ANs have more than double the National rate of HCV-
related mortality, and the highest rate of acute HCV infection. Current 
funding levels for HIV and Hep C initiatives will not end these 
epidemics in Indian Country and must be increased in FY 2025 to $25 
million.
    Thank you for this opportunity to provide recommendations on the 
IHS budget. I invite you to visit IHS, Tribal health programs, and 
urban Indian organizations in the Northwest to learn more about the 
utilization of IHS funding and the health care needs in our Area. I 
look forward to working with the subcommittee on our requests.\2\
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    \2\ For more information, please contact Laura Platero, NPAIHB, at 
lplatero@npaihb.org or (503) 416-3277.

    [This statement was submitted by Nickolaus Lewis, The Northwest 
Portland Area Indian Health Board.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Norton Sound Health Corporation
The requests of the Norton Sound Health Corporation (NSHC) for the FY 
2025 Budget include:
                         indian health service
  --Recognize Alaska Native communities of 10,000 or less to be treated 
        as entire Native communities in the IHS Sanitation Deficiency 
        System (SDS), thus eliminating the notion of pro rata 
        contribution for incidental benefits ineligible costs for 
        sanitation projects.

  --Recommend IHS fund an operation and maintenance (O&M) program to 
        support and maintain sanitation infrastructure.

  --Request appropriations in the FY2025 Budget for the operation and 
        maintenance of sanitation facilities and make funding available 
        through ISDEAA self-governance agreements.

  --Fund construction of employee housing quarters and prioritize 
        healthcare facilities without current facilities.

  --Support funding opportunities for Tribal Health to construct 
        daycare facilities.

Department of Transportation (DOT):

  --Increase the number of funded DOT Essential Air Service trips by 
        helicopter for passengers to Diomede, Alaska.

  --Support funding for 14 villages in Bering Strait Region, eligible 
        for Essential Air Services, to increase daily flight capacity 
        by existing airline.

Federal Aviation Administration (FAA):

  --Revise the mandatory requirement that only FAA personnel can reset 
        Automated Weather Observing Systems (AWOS) when they go down in 
        rural Alaska.

    Headquartered in Nome, Alaska, Norton Sound Health Corporation is 
owned and managed by the 20 federally recognized Tribes of the Bering 
Strait region. Our Tribal system includes a regional hospital, nursing 
home, and 15 village-based clinics, which we operate under an Indian 
Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act (ISDEAA) agreement.\1\ 
Our rural and remote Arctic region remains unconnected by roads, and we 
are 500 air miles from Alaska's economic hub of Anchorage. Our service 
area encompasses 44,000 square miles.
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    \1\ We serve the communities of: Brevig Mission, Council, Diomede, 
Elim, Gambell, Golovin, King Island, Koyuk, Mary's Igloo, Nome, St. 
Michael, Savoonga, Shaktoolik, Shishmaref, Solomon, Stebbins, Teller, 
Unalakleet, Wales, and White Mountain

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Funding for Water & Sewer Projects and Operation and Maintenance:

  --Recognize Alaska Native communities of 10,000 or less to be treated 
        as entire Native communities in the IHS Sanitation Deficiency 
        System (SDS), eliminating the notion of pro rata contribution 
        for incidental benefits ineligible costs for sanitation 
        projects.

    We face a $261 million sanitation need in the Bering Strait region. 
Five communities in our area, Diomede, Wales, Shishmaref, Stebbins, and 
Teller, still lack any connection for running water and sewer. The 
community of Gambell is 70% served, with 43 homes in the village 
remaining unconnected to water and sewer. Ongoing sewer and water 
upgrades and maintenance backlogs remain concerns in seven communities. 
An estimated 520 homes in the Bering Strait region have no running 
water or flush toilets, which research correlates with increased 
healthcare expenditures and lower overall quality of health.
    In the authorizing statute (Indian Health Care Improvement Act) for 
the IHS, Congress reaffirmed the Indian Health Service as the agency 
with ``primary responsibility and authority to provide necessary 
sanitation facilities,'' and furthermore, ``it is in the interest of 
the United States and it is the policy of the United States, that all 
Indian communities and Indian homes, new and existing, be provided with 
safe and adequate water supply systems and sanitary sewage waste 
disposal systems as soon as possible'' (25 USC 1632). These services to 
Norton Sound communities cannot come soon enough. Basic human needs 
that most Americans take for granted do not exist in many of our 
communities.
    We are opposed to the decision of the IHS to implement in the 
FY2018 Sanitation Facilities Construction appropriation using a 
methodology to serve Alaska Native homes. The error in this methodology 
is the premise that our Alaska Native villages are 'non-Indian.' Our 
unserved communities are primarily (over 90%) Alaska Native. The SDS 
policy places Indian communities in the same category as ``non-Indian'' 
communities, requiring that Tribes find contributions for ineligible 
buildings such as public schools, clinics, Tribal buildings, and 
teacher housing. All community buildings benefit the Native community, 
including schools, which often serve as the community's evacuation 
center and primary gathering place for healthy community activities. 
Schools and teachers' homes are often the only facilities connected to 
sewer and water, creating significant sanitation inequities in a 
community.

  --Recommend IHS fund an operation and maintenance (O&M) program to 
        support and maintain sanitation infrastructure and request 
        $200M in appropriations in the FY2025 Budget and make funding 
        available through ISDEAA self-governance agreements.

    The National Congress f American Indians passed Resolution ANC-22-
041, which recommends that IHS fund sanitation infrastructure operation 
and maintenance (O&M) as authorized in 25 USC 1632 (b). The FY 2024 
Tribal Budget Recommendations include a request for O&M funding by the 
National Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup. In addition, Congress's 
unprecedented amount of financing for the construction and repair of 
sanitation facilities through the IIJA underscores the need to protect 
the Federal investment and ensure the maximum life cycle and 
sustainable operation of these sanitation systems for as long as 
possible. O&M costs should also be used for existing systems to keep 
projects that are already complete off the SDS list in the future. 
Congress has provided IHS funding to train operators but not a 
designated O&M fund. IHS must request appropriations in the FY 2025 
budget for the operation and maintenance of sanitation facilities 
systems, and further such funding should be made available through the 
ISDEAA self-governance agreement.

Funding for employee housing quarters.

    Since NSHC opened its new hospital facility in 2013, the workforce 
in Nome and the villages has increased by 12 percent and 23 percent, 
respectively. Unfortunately, the construction project did not include 
housing quarters when the facility was built.
    NSHC owns 29 apartment units in Nome but still leases over 70 
apartment units from various landlords to meet the needs for adequate 
housing for new hires, locum physicians, nurses, clinicians, health 
aides in training, and students. NSHC's usage of such a large portion 
of currently available Nome housing has created a significant housing 
shortage for Nome.
    This housing shortage has prevented NSHC from filling critical 
healthcare positions and created further impediments to hiring a 
permanent local workforce. Typhoon Merbok exasperated the already 
limited housing situation in Nome when the flood destroyed housing 
units, and the subsequent fire destroyed a local hotel, which was 
housing homeless individuals and families.
    The approved Port Project for the City of Nome will result in an 
influx of people to the community while vacant housing is currently 
nonexistent. NSHC proposes constructing four 20-unit apartment 
buildings to meet its growing Nome workforce needs adequately. By 
owning its housing, NSHC could release 70 apartment units, which would 
be available to Nome Port Project laborers, teachers, and homeless 
individuals and families. The total cost to build four 20-unit 
apartment buildings is anticipated to be 73.25 M. The NSHC Board funded 
the $250,000 design and $13 M for the foundation, furniture, fixtures, 
and equipment (FF &E). The site work will begin in the summer of 2024. 
NSHC will dedicate $3M received through the FY23 Omnibus bill, which 
leaves a $57M Legislative and Federal Ask.
    In the surrounding villages, the ability to recruit and retain a 
permanent provider to work at the local clinic and live in the 
community is contingent on housing. There is also a need for more 
housing for local employees. While NSHC has received some funding to 
construct housing in some of its villages, other communities still face 
challenges with inadequate housing: Gambell, Stebbins, Teller, White 
Mountain, Brevig Mission, Shaktoolik, and Elim. NSHC will be building 
two duplexes in Gambell this summer, 2024. The total cost of the 
project is 6.25M. The NSHC Board has funded the design at $250,000; the 
foundation work at $1.75M, and the FF&E at $500,000, which leaves a 
vertical construction Legislative and Federal Ask of $3.75M.

Funding for Tribal Health to construct daycare facilities.

    The Bering Strait region needs childcare providers. Childcare is a 
basic need that hinders recruitment, retention, and family financial 
sustainability. NSHC aims to address its workforce childcare needs 
through a Nome-based facility currently in the conceptual design phase 
for a 7,460-square-foot building. The facility would be available to 
employees and patients for drop-in appointments and village-based 
health aides during training sessions. The project, estimated at $10.35 
M, received $2.2M from the FY23 Omnibus Bill.
Funding for additional air transportation to Diomede and other 14 
villages in Bering Strait Region.

  --Increase the number of funded DOT Essential Air Service trips by 
        helicopter for passengers to Diomede, Alaska.

    Diomede's residents and critical personnel, such as medical staff, 
rely heavily on the 52 trips funded annually by DOT EAS. However, the 
demand for seats on the 8-passenger helicopter is high, with four 
weekly seats utilized for healthcare needs. Patients use three of these 
seats, while critical healthcare workers use one. NSHC's new health 
clinic, which opened in October 2020, requires ongoing maintenance, and 
the village's clean water and sanitation program needs frequent staff 
visits to provide for the island's needs. While an on-site medical 
provider has increased the level of service available in Diomede, 
patients must still travel for needed imaging, procedures, and 
specialist visits. Flight cancellations due to inclement weather 
conditions can displace community members for extended periods when 
there are no vacant seats on the next available flights. This situation 
has caused residents to hesitate to attend much-needed medical care 
outside of Diomede, fearing displacement. Despite these changing needs, 
the level of EAS has remained stagnant since its establishment. NSHC 
calls on DOT EAS to increase the seats available to community members 
by funding one additional monthly trip at an annual cost of $174,000/
year.

  --Support funding for 14 villages in Bering Strait Region, eligible 
        for Essential Air Services, to increase daily flight capacity 
        by existing airline.

    Another critical concern is the need for more access to small 
airline travel in the region. Twenty years ago, the area had three 
small airline carriers, providing many options and opportunities to 
travel from rural villages to the hub of Nome and Anchorage. Over the 
past 5 years, the number of small airlines has reduced to one, with 
only two available flights per day to each community. Limited flights 
impact medical travel, especially for last-minute needs due to urgent 
situations requiring patients to see a physician in the hub of Nome. 
These communities are EAS eligible and this may be the only way to 
expand service for the region. NSHC urges DOT to provide funding to 
expand EAS for each of the 14 villages in the Bering Strait Region.
    Revise the mandatory requirement that only FAA personnel can reset 
Automated Weather Observing Systems (AWOS) when they go down in rural 
Alaska.
    NSHC requests that the FAA prioritize keeping rural airports in 
Alaska operational. Unavailable AWOS readings due to inoperable weather 
equipment are the number one reason why airplanes cannot fly into 
villages. Patient travel is already severely limited since the region 
has only one airline. Our emergency medevac flights experience the same 
restrictions. Due to heightened airport security, the FAA requires only 
FAA personnel to reset AWOS systems when the electrical power goes out. 
In rural Alaska, power outages are common due to the inclement weather 
and dated equipment. Each local airport has direct-hire DOT personnel. 
Recommend the FAA partner with DOT to provide the necessary security 
clearance to these individuals to allow them to reset the local airport 
AWOS systems when they go down. NSHC urges the FAA to consider this 
request to empower local direct-hire DOT personnel to reset AWOS 
Systems.
    We appreciate your consideration of the concerns and requests of 
the Norton Sound Health Corporation.

    [This statement was submitted by Angela Gorn, President/CEO, Norton 
Sound Health Corporation.]
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    Prepared Statement of Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and 
                              Enforcement
    OSMRE is failing to comply with adequate funding of Title V State 
and Tribal regulatory programs. Therefore, an increase of $13.9 
million, or 21.4%, is requested over the $65.0 million included in the 
FY 2025 budget of the Department of Interior--Office of Surface Mining 
Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) for State and Tribal regulatory 
grants under Title V of the Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act 
of 1977 (SMCRA). This increase to $78.9 million equals the funding 
requested by State and Tribal programs for FY 2024.
    My testimony is to bring attention to the significant risk OSMRE's 
is taking by underfunding State and Tribal regulatory programs, these 
programs are responsible for the prevention or mitigation of adverse 
environmental effects of present and future surface coal mining 
operations. Enacted under Title V of SMCRA are rules and regulations 
designed to prevent a repeat of pre- 1977 abandoned and unreclaimed 
mine sites, now costing our Nation billions annually.
    Using my state as an example, for FY 2024, Alabama requested $1.94 
million 50% matching funds as provided under SMCRA. This amount was 
reviewed and recommended for approval by the OSMRE field and regional 
offices to the OSMRE DC office. Yet, Alabama's distribution was set at 
only $1.31 million, a critical shortfall of $648,797 or 32.4%. The 
$1.31 million allocation does not even cover the 50% Federal share of 
payroll much less any other required operating expenses. Alabama must 
somehow cross this gap by elimination or deferral of necessary costs. 
And Alabama is not the only program experiencing the pressures of 
inadequate funding.
    For FY 2024, all Title V State and Tribal programs requested $78.9 
million, an amount that was reviewed and approved for recommendation by 
OSMRE field offices. However, the OSMRE DC offices decided otherwise 
and submitted a budget request of only $65.0 million, later cut of 
$62.4 million as included in the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024 
dated March 9, 2024. This represents a $16.5 million, or 20.9% 
shortfall across all State and Tribal programs. Also, all regulatory 
programs are personnel heavy, not overstaffed, but with personnel 
needed in multiple sciences. On average, 80% of program costs are 
personnel related. Therefore, $63.12 million, or 80%, of the $78.9 
million requested is personnel costs. The appropriation of $62.4 
million falls short of even covering payroll.
    These facts beg the question of how the OSMRE FY 2025 budget 
request amount was determined in the face of valid program needs. 
Apparently, the regulatory programs, those who have boots on the ground 
experience and knowledge of active coal mining and reclamation and 
recommendations of experienced OSMRE field personnel were not 
considered. Only the opinions of executive level OSMRE DC personnel, 
who probably have never been to a mine site, were considered. Exhibited 
on page 4, is a listing of individual State and Regulatory program 
requests and grant distributions for FY 2024. Underfunding is quite 
evident as not a single program was granted its request, with 
shortfalls ranging from -32.5% in Kentucky to -6.5% in Utah.
    Additionally, below is the history of OSMRE Grants as Compared to 
Budgets from 2019 to 2024.
    The current year distribution since FY 2019 decreased $6.19 
million, or 9%. Over the same period the regulatory request increased 
$6.84 million, or 9.5%. A swing of $13.3 million. When costs go up due 
to significant inflation, funding cannot be decreased. The result is a 
hollowing out of the necessary funding to accomplish the mission of 
protecting the environment as was intended by the 95th Congress. The 
regulatory programs cannot continue without a significant increase in 
funding, otherwise, programs may not be able to meet established Title 
V performance standards. The consequences of which are Federal 
Government takeover.
    One additional point for consideration, on May 9, 2024, the updated 
OSMRE Ten Day notice rule took effect. The effect of this rule is OSMRE 
overstepping its authority as outlined in SMCRA. This new rule is an 
updated version of the 2020 Ten Day notice rule that all participants, 
State, Tribe and OSMRE, worked together to agree upon. Yet, 2 1/2 years 
later, OSMRE decides the 2020 rule is insufficient. OSMRE's preamble 
reports that it is proposing ``non-substantive'' changes and changes to 
``improve'' readability. However, there are hidden consequences which 
cannot go unrecognized. Without going into detail, this rule 
fundamentally alters the nature of state primacy under SMCRA whereby 
States are given exclusive rights over its regulatory program. Instead, 
the rule provides OSMRE with unjust ``powers'' over regulation of State 
programs not envisioned under SMCRA. Yet to be determined, is what 
circumstances precipitated OSMRE to make such significant changes to a 
rule that was working as designed.
    In conclusion, for Alabama as well as other States and Tribes, the 
funding of Title V programs must be increased to provide adequate 
support. Without a significant increase the intent of SMCRA Title V 
cannot be accomplished to prevent or mitigate adverse environmental 
effects of present and future surface coal mining operations. Congress 
is urged to approve an increase of $13.9 million for State and Tribal 
Title V regulatory programs in FY 2025 to $78.9. A small price to pay 
for enjoying environmental protections and preventing unreclaimed 
properties.
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit my statement on this 
matter. I would be happy to answer any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by Kathy H. Love, Director Alabama 
Surface Mining Commission.]
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Prepared Statement of Oncology Advocates United for Climate and Health 
                             International
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide written testimony to 
highlight the funding priorities of Oncology Advocates United for 
Climate and Health International (OUCH) within the Environmental 
Protection Agency (EPA) for fiscal year 2025 (FY25).
    OUCH is a group of oncology-focused health professionals whose 
mission is to advance awareness, actions and policies that mitigate the 
effects of climate change on human health, cancer incidence and 
outcomes, and health equity. We advocate for urgent action by educating 
oncologists, policymakers, professional societies, the public, and 
other stakeholders about the relationships between climate change and 
cancer incidence and outcomes, and to call for actions that eliminate 
reliance on fossil fuels to protect public health. Since our founding 
in 2020 , we have authored more than 37 manuscripts, op-eds, abstracts, 
etc., testified or supported more than 14 initiatives; and presented at 
24 local, national, and international meetings. Our members include 
oncology health care professionals who are interested in mitigating the 
effects of climate change on cancer. Our members represent 27 States 
and 23 different countries, including six oncology professional 
societies.
    In 2021, the World Health Organization called climate change the 
single biggest health threat facing humanity. 230 medical journals, 
including the New England Journal of Medicine, jointly published an 
editorial describing the health effects of climate change as 
catastrophic. 2. yet, climate change is often perceived by the majority 
of the public as an environmental threat or a political problem. 
Largely overlooked is that climate change impacts health, including 
cancer incidence, care delivery and outcomes.
    Air pollution and climate change are two sides of the same coin; 
they both come from the burning of fossil fuels, whether these stem 
from combustion engines or from natural sources, such as wildfires. Air 
pollution contains ``fine'' particulate matter 2.5 microns thick 
(PM2.5). Air pollution and PM2.5 particles have 
been categorized as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency 
for Research and Cancer.
    How do we know that lung cancer is related to air pollution? 
Numerous epidemiological studies have shown that people living in 
highly polluted areas are more likely to die of lung cancer than those 
who live in less polluted areas.
    A study published in the Journal of the American Medical 
Association (JAMA), shows that long-term exposure to combustion-related 
fine particulate air pollution is an important environmental risk 
factor for cardiopulmonary and lung cancer mortality. This study 
indicates that the increase in risk of lung cancer from long-term 
exposure to PM2.5 in a polluted city was of roughly the same 
size as the increase in lung cancer risk of a non-smoker who breathes 
passive smoke while living with a smoker, or about a 20% increase in 
lung cancer risk (see Pope et al., 2002). The study concluded: ``Long-
term exposure to combustion-related fine particulate air pollution is 
an important environmental risk factor for cardiopulmonary and lung 
cancer mortality.''


Cardiovascular and Lung Cancer Mortality Risks Increase with Exposure 
to Fine Particulate Matter (PM2.5) (Adapted from Pope, et al 
2002)
    At least six meta-analyses concluded that the relative risk of 
death from lung cancer ranges from 1.07-1.16. Additionally, 10%--20% 
cases of lung cancer worldwide occur in people who have never smoked. 
One meta-analysis reported that the estimated hazard ratio for death, 
adjusted for age, sex, and smoking status, was 113 (95% CI 
1G607-120) per 10 mg/m\3\ elevation in PM2.5.
    We urge the Committee to support $12 billion in funding for the 
Environmental Protection Agency.
    Investments in EPA programs are critical to protecting public 
health. On behalf of OUCH, I thank you for your consideration of these 
requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Joan H Schiller, MD, Chair, 
Steering Committee, Oncology Advocates United for Climate and Health 
International.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Oregon Water Resources Congress
    The Oregon Water Resources Congress (OWRC) is writing to express 
its strong support for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's (USFWS) 
Fisheries Restoration Irrigation Mitigation Act (FRIMA) program and is 
requesting $15 million in FY2025, which is the previously authorized 
amount. The FRIMA program is an essential cost-share funding program 
that helps water users and fishery agencies better protect sensitive, 
threatened, and endangered fish species while ensuring water supply 
delivery to farms and communities.
    OWRC was established in 1912 as a trade association to support the 
protection of water rights and promote the wise stewardship of water 
resources statewide. OWRC members are local governmental entities, 
which include irrigation districts, water control districts, drainage 
districts, water improvement districts, and other agricultural water 
suppliers that deliver water to roughly one-third of all irrigated land 
in Oregon. These water stewards operate complex water management 
systems, including water supply reservoirs, canals, pipelines, fish 
screens and fish passage, and hydropower facilities.
                         fy2025 appropriations
    The FRIMA program meets a critical need in fishery protection and 
restoration, complimenting other programs through USFWS. Fish passage 
and fish screen installations are a vital component to fishery 
protection with several benefits:

  --Keep sensitive, threatened and endangered fish out of canals and 
        water delivery systems

  --Allow fish to be safely bypassed around reservoirs and other 
        infrastructure

  --Reduce water quality risks to fish species

    There are over one hundred irrigation districts and other special 
districts in Oregon that provide water supplies to over one million 
acres of irrigated cropland in the state. Almost all these districts 
are affected by either State or Federal Endangered Species Act listings 
of salmon, steelhead, bull trout or other sensitive, threatened or 
endangered species. The design and installation of fish screens and 
fish passage facilities to protect the myriad of fish species is often 
cost-prohibitive for individual districts to implement without outside 
funding sources.
    The cost of addressing fish screening and fish passage needs in 
Oregon far outweighs current appropriations or the program 
authorization as a whole. Oregon irrigation districts anticipate at 
least $25 million in funding is needed to meet current fish passage and 
fish screen needs in our state alone. Limited cost-share funds are 
available from the Oregon Watershed Enhanced Board (OWEB), but the 
primary cost-share for fish screen and fish passage projects has been 
provided by the districts and their water users. Projects include 
construction of new fish screens and fish passage facilities as well as 
significant upgrades of existing facilities to meet new requirements 
(new species or science) from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric 
Administration (NOAA) Fisheries Service and the USFWS. Upgrades are 
often needed to modernize facilities with new technologies that provide 
better protection for fish species as well as reduced maintenance and 
increased lifespan for the operator.
   background of the fisheries restoration irrigation mitigation act 
                            (frima) program
    FRIMA, originally enacted in November 2000, created a Federal 
partnership program incentivizing voluntary fish screen and fish 
passage improvements for water withdrawal projects in Idaho, Oregon, 
Washington and western Montana. The funding went to local governments 
for construction of fish screens and fish passage facilities and is 
matched with non-federal funding. Irrigation districts and other local 
governments that divert water for irrigation accessed the funding 
directly, while individual irrigators accessed funding through their 
local Soil and Water Conservation District (SWCD), which are local 
governments affiliated with USDA's Natural Resources Conservation 
Service (NRCS).
    The original legislation in 2000 (PL 106-502) was supported and 
requested by the Pacific Northwest Partnership, a coalition of local 
governmental entities in the four Northwest States, including OWRC. The 
FRIMA legislation authorized $25 million annually, to be divided 
equally among the four States from 2001 to 2012, which was when the 
original authorization expired. The actual funding appropriated to the 
FRIMA program (through Congressional write-ins) ranged from $1 million 
to $8 million, well short of the $25 million originally authorized and 
far short of what is needed to address fish passage and screening needs 
across the region. However, that small amount of funding was used to 
leverage other funds and assisted the region in making measurable 
progress towards installing fish screens and fish passage critical to 
protecting and restoring populations of sensitive, threatened, and 
endangered fish species.
    FRIMA funding was channeled through USFWS to state fishery agencies 
in the four States and distributed using an application and approval 
process based on a ranking system implemented uniformly among the 
States, including the following criteria: Fish restoration benefits, 
cost effectiveness, and feasibility of planned structure. All projects 
provided improved fish passage or fish protection at water diversion 
structures and benefitted native fish species in the area, including 
several state or federally listed species. Projects were also subject 
to applicable State and Federal requirements for project construction 
and operation.
    FRIMA was reauthorized as part of the Water Infrastructure 
Improvements for the Nation Act (WIIN) of 2016. However, a fifth state, 
California, was also added as an eligible FRIMA cost-share recipient 
and the program was only reauthorized for $15 million, well short of 
the estimated $500 million in fish screening and passage needs in the 
Pacific Northwest alone. Now that the program has been reauthorized, it 
is imperative the program receive appropriations so all five States can 
better leverage State and local funding to meet their fish passage and 
screening needs.
                            program benefits
    FRIMA projects provide immediate protection for fish and fills a 
large unmet need in the Western United States for cost-share assistance 
with fish screening and fish passage installation and improvements. 
Compared to other recovery strategies, installation of fish screens and 
fish passage has the highest assurance for increasing populations of 
sensitive, threatened, and endangered fish species in the Pacific 
Northwest. Furthermore, the construction of these facilities have 
minimal impact on water delivery operations, and projects are done 
cooperatively using methods well accepted by landowners and rural 
communities.
    Funding of the FRIMA program has catalyzed cooperative partnerships 
and innovative projects that provide immediate and long-term benefits 
to irrigators, fishery agencies, and local communities throughout the 
Pacific Northwest. This program is also a wise investment, with past 
projects contributing more than the required match and leveraging on 
average over one dollar for each Federal dollar invested. FRIMA 
provides for a maximum Federal cost-share of 65%, with the applicant's 
cost-share at 35% along with on-going maintenance and support of the 
structure for passage or screening purposes. Applicants operate the 
facilities and State agencies review and monitor the projects.
                       oregon projects & benefits
    Twenty-six fish screen or fish passage projects in Oregon were 
previously funded using FRIMA for part of the project financing. These 
projects have led to:

  --Installation of screens at 17 diversions or irrigation pumps

  --Removal or modification of 12 fish passage barriers

  --Three-hundred sixty-five miles of surface waters re-opened to safe 
        fish passage

    In addition, the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) has 
used some of the FRIMA funding to develop an inventory of needed fish 
screens and passages in the state. Grants ranged from just under $6,000 
to $400,000 in size with a local match averaging 64% of the project 
costs, well over the amount required under the act (35%). In other 
words, each Federal dollar invested in the FRIMA program generates a 
local investment of just over one dollar for the protection of fish 
species in the Pacific Northwest.
    The following are examples of how Oregon has effectively utilized 
FRIMA money.
    Santiam Water Control District: Fish screen project on a large 1050 
cubic feet per second (cfs) multipurpose water diversion project on the 
Santiam River (Willamette Basin) near Stayton, Oregon. Partners are the 
Santiam Water Control District, ODFW, Marion Soil and Water 
Conservation District, and the City of Stayton. Approved FRIMA funding 
of $400,000 leveraged a $1,200,000 total project cost. Species 
benefited included winter steelhead, spring Chinook, rainbow trout, and 
cutthroat trout.
    South Fork Little Butte Creek: Fish screen and fish passage project 
on a sixty-five cfs irrigation water diversion in the Rogue River Basin 
near Medford, Oregon. Partners are the Medford Irrigation District and 
ODFW. Approved FRIMA funding of $372,000 leveraged a $580,000 total 
project cost. Species benefited included listed summer and winter 
steelhead, Coho salmon, and cutthroat trout.
    Running Y (Geary Diversion): Fish screen project on a sixty cfs 
irrigation water diversion in the upper Klamath Basin near Klamath 
Falls, Oregon. Partners are the Wocus Drainage District, ODFW, and 
Jeld-Wen Ranches. Approved FRIMA funding of $44,727 leveraged a total 
project cost of $149,000. Species benefited included listed red-band 
trout and short-nosed sucker.
    Lakeshore Gardens: Fish screen project on a two cfs irrigation 
water diversion in the upper Klamath Basin near Klamath Falls, Oregon. 
Partners are the Lakeshore Gardens Drainage District and ODFW. Approved 
FRIMA funding of $5,691 leveraged a total project cost of $18,970. 
Species benefited included red-band trout, short-nosed sucker and Lost 
River sucker.
                               conclusion
    Providing funding for the FRIMA program fills a vital funding gap 
for fish screens and fish passage projects that are needed to protect 
and restore sensitive, threatened, and endangered fish species, which 
in turn benefits the economy, local communities, and the environment. 
Eligible FRIMA funded projects are ready for construction and will 
provide immediate habitat benefits for fish as well as jobs and 
economic revitalization for local communities. Dollar-for-dollar, 
providing screening and fish passage at diversions is one of the most 
cost-effective uses of restoration dollars, creating fishery protection 
at relatively low cost, with minimal risk and significant benefits.
    The return of a robustly funded FRIMA program will once again 
catalyze cooperative partnerships and innovative projects that provide 
immediate and long-term benefits to irrigators, fishery agencies, and 
local communities throughout the Pacific Northwest. We respectfully 
request an appropriation of $15 million for U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service's Fisheries Restoration Irrigation Mitigation Act program for 
FY2025.

    [This statement was submitted by April Snell, Executive Director, 
Oregon Water Resources Congress.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Oregon Water Resources Congress
    The Oregon Water Resources Congress (OWRC) is highly supportive of 
the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Clean Water State 
Revolving Fund Loan Program (CWSRF). OWRC respectfully requests FY2025 
appropriations for this program be increased to at least $3 billion, an 
increase from the $2.77 billion appropriated in FY2023 and FY2024 for 
the Clean Water and Drinking Water SRF programs. The CWSRF is an 
effective loan program that addresses critical water infrastructure 
needs while benefiting the environment, local communities, and the 
economy. As an existing and proven program, it is a perfect fit for 
increased investment during a time of need for climate and 
environmentally friendly infrastructure.
    OWRC was established in 1912 as a trade association to support the 
protection of water rights and promote the wise stewardship of water 
resources statewide. OWRC members are local governmental entities, 
which include irrigation districts, water control districts, drainage 
districts, water improvement districts, and other agricultural water 
suppliers that deliver water to roughly one-third of all irrigated land 
in Oregon. These water stewards operate complex water management 
systems, including water supply reservoirs, canals, pipelines, fish 
screens and fish passage, and hydropower production facilities.
                         fy2025 appropriations
    We recognize our country must make strategic investments with 
scarce resources. The CWSRF is a perfect example of the type of program 
that should have funding increased because it creates jobs while 
benefiting the environment and is an efficient return on taxpayer 
investment. CWSRF projects provide much needed construction and 
professional services jobs, particularly in rural areas facing economic 
hardship. Moreover, as a loan program, it is a wise investment that 
allows local communities to leverage their limited resources and 
address critical infrastructure needs that would otherwise be unmet.
    In Oregon, the CWSRF is administered by the Oregon Department of 
Environmental Quality (DEQ), which has updated its rules implementing 
the program to reflect new criteria enacted under the BIL. DEQ 
responsibly maintains the program through repaid loans, interest, fees, 
and available Federal capitalization grants. According to EPA, for 
every $1 of Federal capitalization funding, $3 worth of assistance is 
provided, leveraging available funds to maximize benefits for local 
communities, the environment, and the economy. Unfortunately, available 
funding for water infrastructure projects continues to be woefully 
insufficient to meet the growing water infrastructure funding needs in 
Oregon and nationwide. Appropriations for the CWSRF needs to be 
increased in FY2025, as authorized in the BIL, to support water 
infrastructure projects that are addressing these critical needs.
        background of cwsrf usage by oregon irrigation districts
    During the program's thirty-plus year history in Oregon, numerous 
OWRC member districts have successfully used CWSRF for projects that 
improve water quality and water conservation associated with water 
delivery diversions, canals, and pipelines throughout the state. OWRC 
and its members are highly supportive of the CWSRF, including promoting 
the program to our members, hosting workshops with agency staff, and 
annually submitting Federal appropriations testimony in support of 
increased funding for the CWSRF. We believe it is an important funding 
tool for irrigation districts and other water suppliers that are using 
it for innovative piping projects that provide multiple environmental 
and economic benefits.
    Numerous irrigation districts and other water suppliers need to 
pipe currently open canals, which significantly reduces sediment, 
improves water temperature, and provides other water quality benefits 
to rivers and streams. Piping immediately improves the efficiency of 
the water delivery system and helps increase available water supplies 
for aquatic life and irrigators alike. These projects also decrease 
energy consumption (from reduced pumping), and have opportunities for 
generating renewable energy, primarily through in-conduit hydropower. 
CWSRF is often an integral part of an overall package of local, State, 
and Federal funding sources necessitating a higher level of Federal 
loan funding availability for planned water infrastructure projects. 
Reductions in CWSRF appropriations could lead to loss of matching grant 
funding and delay or derail beneficial projects irrigation districts 
have been developing for years.
    The success Oregon districts have experienced using the loan 
program to design and implement multi-beneficial projects has led to 
increased applications to the CWSRF. Irrigation districts are once 
again eligible for a key funding element, principal forgiveness, up to 
50% and capped at $500,000 for projects in a distressed community or 
eligible for the Green Project Reserve designation. As a result, we 
expect to see even more interest in the program. OWRC is hopeful there 
will be enough funding available to complete projects that will not 
only benefit the environment and the patrons served by the water 
delivery system, but also benefit the rural economy.
                         cwsrf needs in oregon
    The appropriations for the CWSRF program prior to the BIL had 
fallen far short of what is needed to address critical water 
infrastructure needs in Oregon and across the Nation. This has led to 
fewer water infrastructure projects, and therefore a reduction in 
improvements to water quality and water conservation. However, OWRC is 
pleased with the 5-year commitment to increased funding authorized in 
the BIL. This Federal commitment is important as infrastructure needs 
have become more expensive and even more time critical.
    The most recent Oregon Intended Use Plan (IUP), updated on December 
20, 2023, includes forty-eight loan applications totaling $228,168,903 
in requested CWSRF funding. Currently, the Oregon CWSRF loan program 
has $209,476,794 net available to lend for state FY2024. DEQ can award 
a maximum individual loan amount of $31,421,519.
    The following irrigation district projects are included in the 
current FY2024 IUP. Increased funding will help catalyze many more 
projects like the ones below in Oregon and throughout the Nation.
                      oregon projects in fy24 iup
arnold irrigation district (deschutes county)--$8,699,900 (ranked #5 in 
                               fy24 iup)
    Design and Construction, Infrastructure Resiliency and 
Modernization Project. The Arnold Irrigation District Infrastructure 
Resiliency and Modernization Project will enclose 11.9 miles (62,868 
length-feet) of open porous canal into leak-free piping resulting in 
the conservation of 11,083 acre-feet (AF) of water per year. Piping the 
canals has two immediate outcomes: (1) a substantial reduction in water 
quantity diverted; and (2) substantial increase of water quantity 
remaining instream. These outcomes have an immediate benefit to 
improving streamflow that will result in improvements to water quality, 
habitat, and habitat availability in the Deschutes River downstream 
from Wickiup Reservoir.
 east fork irrigation district (hood river county)--$4,000,000 (ranked 
                            #1 in fy24 iup)
    Design and Construction, EFID Canal and Pipe Improvements. The 
proposed loan will support several water quality/water conservation 
projects that have been identified as high priority actions in recent 
East Fork Irrigation District planning studies. The primary projects 
will replace open canals or non-pressure rated pipe with pressure-rated 
pipe and pressure reducing stations; additional potential projects 
would reduce warm water return flows, reduce sediment and chemical 
inputs to the Hood River, reduce water loss and remove sediment from 
the system, reduce operation and maintenance costs, improve fish 
screening and increase instream flow. The proposed projects will meet 
multiple water quality improvement objectives including: 1) Decrease 
stream temperatures in the East Fork and mainstem Hood River; both 
reaches are covered by the Columbia-Hood River TMDL. 2) Reduce 
sediment, pesticide, fertilizer, and other chemical inputs to the East 
Fork Hood River, Neal Creek, and the mainstem Hood River, all of which 
have water quality 303(d) listings. This project is eligible for 
$2,000,000 in principle forgiveness under the Bipartisan Infrastructure 
Bill.
medford irrigation district (jackson county)--$2,443,000 (ranked #15 in 
                               fy24 iup)
    Construction, Community Floating Solar. Medford Irrigation District 
is developing a floating community solar project to provide low-cost, 
locally produced, renewable energy to irrigators and area residents. 
The project will be installed on a reregulation reservoir owned by MID 
and located adjacent to MID's offices. It will be Oregon's first 
floating solar installation. The 0.9 MW project will generate an 
estimated 2 million kWh of electricity each year. Under Oregon's 
Community Solar Program, 40% of the energy produced by the project will 
be offered to local businesses, and 60% to Jackson County residents and 
at least 30% to low-income community members. The floating solar panels 
will have water quantity and water quality benefits for MID and its 
patrons. The panels will reduce evaporation from the reservoir, 
improving water supply reliability for agriculture. By shading the 
reservoir, the solar panels will also reduce water temperature in the 
summer, reducing the growth of algae and aquatic weeds and improving 
the quality of irrigation water delivered to farms and other users. 
Once complete, the project will achieve the following objectives: 
generate an estimated 2 million kWh of renewable energy annually; 
reduce electric utility bills for local businesses, irrigators and 100 
low-income households by up to 50%; reduce evaporation from the 
reservoir, conserving water for irrigation supplies; reduce algae 
growth in the reservoir, improving water quality for agriculture; 
create approximately $46,000 in annual revenue for MID to support 
District operations and future modernization projects.
 owyhee irrigation district (malheur county)--$500,000 (ranked #14 in 
                             the fy24 iud)
    Construction--Kingman Lateral First Mile Piping Project. Owyhee 
Irrigation District will construct 5,800 feet of piping of the Kingman 
Lateral canal to address embankment instability caused by seepage. The 
piping will prevent sediment loading and other water quality issues in 
the Owyhee River basin caused by seepage and/or catastrophic failure of 
this canal section. The project includes installation of pipe between 
the lateral headgate and a tunnel at the end of the worst problem 
section.
              examples of green project reserves in oregon
    Oregon irrigation districts and other water suppliers are on the 
forefront of innovative piping projects that provide and leverage 
multiple benefits, including ``green'' infrastructure projects. 
Otherwise known as Green Project Reserve (GPR), DEQ is required to use 
at least 10 percent of annual Federal capitalization grants on projects 
that promote water and energy efficiency, are environmentally 
innovative, or include green infrastructure. Of the projects listed 
above, Arnold Irrigation District, East Fork Irrigation District, and 
Medford Irrigation District have qualifying GPR projects.
    Providing increased appropriations for the CWSRF program will help 
implement additional innovative and multi-benefit projects like these 
in Oregon and across the Nation.
                               conclusion
    In conclusion, OWRC is strongly supportive of increased 
appropriations to the CWSRF program, allowing Oregon's DEQ to continue 
making targeted loans that address Clean Water Act issues and improve 
water quality while incentivizing innovative water management solutions 
that benefit local communities, agricultural economies, and the 
environment. This voluntary approach creates and promotes cooperation 
and collaborative solutions to complex water resources challenges. We 
respectfully request an appropriation of at least $3 billion for the 
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Clean and Drinking Water State 
Revolving Loan Funds for FY2025.

    [This statement was submitted by April Snell, Executive Director, 
Oregon Water Resources Congress.]
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                 Prepared Statement of Outdoor Alliance

                                           Summary of Recommendations
 
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                        Agency                                      Program Funding Recommendations
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Department of Agriculture Forest Service\1\..........              --Recreation, Heritage, and Wilderness: $70M
                                                                                                             --Land Mgmt. Planning, Assessment, and Monitoring:
                                                                                                        $21.75M
                                                               --Cap. Improvements & Maintenance, Trails: $30M,
                                                         including $15M for National Scenic and Historic Trails
                                                              --Cap. Improvements & Maintenance, Roads: $109.5M
                                                                                                             --Legacy Roads and Trails: $100M
                                                                         --Forest and Rangeland Research: $375M
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Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management.....                  --Recreation Resources Management: $100M
                                                                          --Resource Management Planning: $102M
                                                                                       --National Conservation Lands: $78M
                                                                               --Wilderness Management: $27.67M
                                                                                 --National Trails System: $15M
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Department of Interior National Park Service.........         --National Recreation and Preservation: $136.85M,
                                                             including $15M for Rivers, Trails and Conservation
                                                                                                     Assistance
                                                       --Park Service Operations for the National Trails System:
                                                                                                       $20.964M
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Environmental Protection Agency......................                           --BEACH Act Grant Program: $15M
                                                       --U.S./Mexico Border Water Infrastructure Grant Program:
                                                                                                          $100M
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Other Priorities.....................................                                                        --Land and Water Conservation Fund: $1.35B, including
                                                                                  $125M for Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership.
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\1\ All Forest Service appropriations should be accompanied by a commensurate increase to Salaries & Expenses.

    Outdoor Alliance is a coalition of 10 member-based organizations 
representing the human powered outdoor recreation community. The 
coalition includes Access Fund, American Canoe Association, American 
Whitewater, International Mountain Bicycling Association, Winter 
Wildlands Alliance, The Mountaineers, the American Alpine Club, the 
Mazamas, Colorado Mountain Club, and Surfrider Foundation and 
represents the interests of the millions of Americans who climb, 
paddle, mountain bike, backcountry ski and snowshoe, and enjoy coastal 
recreation on our Nation's public lands, waters, and snowscapes.
    Federal public lands and waters provide outstanding opportunities 
for outdoor recreation, including at some of the world's most iconic 
recreation destinations. These recreation opportunities, as well as the 
irreplaceable cultural, ecological, and scenic values found across 
public lands, in turn support the growing outdoor recreation economy, 
which accounted for $1.1 trillion in gross economic output, 2.2 percent 
of U.S. GDP, and 5 million jobs in 2022.\2\
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    \2\ U.S. Bureau of Econ. Analysis, BEA 23-54, Outdoor Recreation 
Satellite Account, U.S. and States, 2022 (2023).
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    Due to decades of underinvestment, Federal land management agencies 
face staffing and resource challenges that have left them unable to 
meet modern needs related to recreation access, conservation, and 
sustainability. This trend of underfunding directly impacts the visitor 
experience on America's public lands and waters. Maintenance issues 
like trash, pollution, fire starts, and erosion have become more 
common, sometimes in a way that creates a public safety issue. In some 
cases, partner-led efforts to complete recreation infrastructure 
projects, such as trail systems, are delayed for years due to lack of 
capacity by agency staff to complete project planning. Moreover, the 
cost-of-living in many gateway communities has increased dramatically 
in recent years, and some land managers have been unable to fill 
recreation-related positions due to inadequate pay rates and cost-of-
living concerns, particularly around housing. Investing in recreation 
and conservation programs will help fill this capacity gap, improve the 
visitor experience, and enable partner organizations to better invest 
in public lands and waters.
    Over the past decade, Federal public lands have benefited from 
historic investments from Congress through the Great American Outdoors 
Act, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, and the Inflation 
Reduction Act. Land managers are currently in the process of putting 
these funds to good use through a wide range of beneficial projects. 
While significant, these funds are not a substitute for adequate 
discretionary funding to support staffing and other basic needs of the 
agencies. Investing in Federal land management agencies will help 
ensure that mandatory dollars are expeditiously put into action to 
benefit the American public.
                          usda forest service
    Recreation, Heritage, and Wilderness: $70M. The Recreation, 
Heritage, and Wilderness budget line item is the foundation of the 
USFS's recreation program. An increase is necessary to address 
inflation and cost-of-living for USFS employees and to account for a 
significant increase in recreational visits to USFS lands over the past 
decade. Between 2010 and 2020, funding for Recreation, Heritage, and 
Wilderness decreased 23% accounting for inflation, while recreational 
visits increased 17%.\3\ Funding this program at $70M would allow the 
agency to rebuild its recreation workforce, provide high-quality 
visitor experiences, and implement its new national recreation 
strategy: Reimagine Recreation.
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    \3\ Data are derived from agency budget justifications and NVUM 5-
year visitation estimates.
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    Land Management Planning/Assessment/Monitoring: $21.750M. Forest 
plans form the foundation for sustainable recreation opportunities and 
restoration activities across our National Forests, but a majority of 
plans are outdated. An increase in funding will help the USFS increase 
the pace and scale of forest plan revisions and launch the Planning 
Service Organization-a new national organization to make forest 
planning more efficient and responsive to stakeholder input.
    Capital Improvements and Maintenance, Trails: $30M, including $15M 
for National Scenic & Historic Trails. The Forest Service manages more 
than 160,000 miles of trails, which provide access to extraordinary 
scenic, cultural, and ecological resources. Increasing trails funding 
will help the agency maintain and expand its trail system and 
strengthen trails partnerships.
    Capital Improvements and Maintenance, Roads: $109.5M. Forest 
Service roads, bridges, and parking lots are critical access points for 
outdoor recreationists. Significantly increased resources are needed to 
help the agency improve recreation access and increase the resilience 
of the extensive USFS road system to high use levels and extreme 
weather events.
    Legacy Roads and Trails: $100M. Outdoor Alliance supports the WA 
Watershed Restoration Initiative's request for Legacy Roads and Trails. 
Although Congress permanently authorized this program in the IIJA at 
$50M per year, this does not meet the need for road and trail repair, 
road decommissioning, and other needs. IIJA investments should be 
augmented with an additional $100M to prevent adverse impacts to water 
quality, habitat, and recreation from USFS roads.
    Forest and Rangeland Research: $375M. Forest Service research is 
critical to understanding our natural world. Increasing research 
funding will help address pressing ecological questions and develop new 
techniques for forest and rangeland management.
                       bureau of land management
    Recreation Resources Management: $100M. The Recreation Resources 
Management subactivity is the BLM's primary account for providing 
sustainable recreation opportunities. Despite overseeing more lands 
than any other Federal land manager, BLM's recreation funding has 
historically lagged considerably behind other agencies. Since 2006, BLM 
has seen a 25% reduction in real appropriations for Recreation 
Resources Management.\4\ Meanwhile, visitation to BLM lands has 
increased 46%, and the number of full-time equivalents under Recreation 
Resources Management has decreased by 25%.\5\ $100M will restore 
historic funding levels, enabling the agency to rebuild its workforce 
and implement its new national recreation strategy.\6\
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    \4\ Historic funding data are derived from BLM budget 
justifications.
    \5\ Data are derived from BLM Public Lands Statistics reports and 
agency budget justifications.
    \6\ See, U.S. Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, 
Bureau of Recreation and Visitor Services, The Bureau of Land 
Management's Blueprint for 21st Century Outdoor Recreation, Washington, 
DC (2023).
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    Resource Protection and Maintenance-Resource Management Planning: 
$102M. BLM planning ensures the best use of BLM lands, including 
balancing recreation with other multiple use values. Approximately 134 
of the BLM's 169 Resource Management Plans are outdated, and additional 
plans need to be completed for new National Monuments.
    National Conservation Lands: $78M. The National Conservation Lands 
system includes some of our country's marquee destinations for outdoor 
recreation. Investing in these lands is critical for their long-term 
protection and their ability to deliver economic benefits to local 
communities. Increased funding is needed to account for the increase in 
acres protected over the last 20 years, and to address the backlog of 
management plans for recently protected areas.
    Wilderness Management: $27.67M. BLM Wilderness lands, which include 
a network of 263 Wilderness areas and 487 Wilderness Study Areas 
totaling more than 21 million acres, provide some of the Nation's best 
opportunities for backcountry recreation. Funding will maintain these 
areas' Wilderness character, while sustaining irreplaceable ecological 
and cultural resources.
                         national park service
    National Recreation and Preservation: $136.85M, including $15M for 
the Rivers, Trails, and Conservation Assistance program. NPS requires 
additional resources to meet the challenges of increased visitation, 
climate, and other stressors. Additionally, RTCA is a critically 
important program for helping local communities realize their visions 
for improved recreation resources.
                    environmental protection agency
    BEACH Act Grant Program: $15M. The BEACH Act grant program provides 
funding to coastal States to run their beach water quality monitoring 
and public notification programs. This funding is critical for 
protecting public health in areas valued for coastal recreation.
    U.S./Mexico Border Water Infrastructure Grant Program: $100M. This 
funding is needed to address a significant public health concern caused 
by sewage pollution from the Tijuana River affecting coastal recreation 
in southern California and Mexico. Funding will advance the EPA 
Comprehensive Infrastructure Solution to upgrade treatment facilities 
at the U.S./Mexico Border.
                    other appropriations priorities
    Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF): $1.35B, including $125M 
for the Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership. Congress guaranteed 
permanent dedicated funding of $900M per year to the LWCF through the 
GAOA. While significant, this funding is intended as a baseline for 
LWCF, and the number of time-sensitive projects seeking funding far 
surpasses $900M.
    National Trails System: We support an increase in appropriations 
for the National Trails System across agencies, including $20.964M at 
NPS, $15M at BLM, and $15M at USFS. This funding will ensure that 
Federal agencies and stewardship partners can keep these iconic trails 
accessible, maintained, and sustainable.

    [This statement was submitted by Louis Geltman, VP for Policy & 
Government Relations, Outdoor Alliance.]
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          Prepared Statement of the Pacific Salmon Commission
    Mister Chair, and Honorable Members of the Committee, in March 1985 
the United States and Canada agreed to cooperate in the management, 
research and enhancement of Pacific salmon stocks of mutual concern by 
ratifying the Pacific Salmon Treaty (PST). I am Ron Allen, the Tribal 
Commissioner and Chair of the Finance and Administration Committee for 
the U.S. Section of the Pacific Salmon Commission (PSC). The U.S. 
Section prepares an annual budget for implementation of the Pacific 
Salmon Treaty. The United States and Canada completed revisions of five 
of the Annex Chapters to the PST in 2019. The Annex Chapters contain 
the details for operations of fisheries under the Treaty for 10 years, 
through 2029. The U.S. and Canada are entering negotiations to revise 
the Annex Chapters for another 10 years, through 2039.
    Funding to implement the PST comes from the Departments of 
Interior, Commerce, and State. The integrated budget details program 
needs and costs for Tribal, Federal, and State agencies involved in the 
Treaty. Tribal participation in the Treaty process is funded within the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) budget as a line item within Rights 
Protection Implementation. Our recommendations are as follows:
    In order to meet the increased obligations under the Pacific Salmon 
Treaty Agreement, the 25 affected Tribes identified costs at $7,420,000 
for Tribal research and monitoring projects and participation in the 
U.S.-Canada Pacific Salmon Treaty process. This represents a 9.3% 
increase from FY 2023 levels and the FY 2024 CR. The funding for Tribal 
participation in the Pacific Salmon Treaty is a line item in the BIA's 
budget under Rights Protection Implementation.
    Under U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service programs, the U.S. Section 
identified funding needs as follows:

    USFWS participation in the Treaty process is currently funded at 
$372,362. In addition, the Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission 
(PSMFC) Regional Mark Center receives support from the USFWS to provide 
data services to the PSC process at $236,189 annually. The U.S. Section 
recommends increasing the funding for PSMFC by $150,000. The 
recommended total for the two programs for FY 2025 is $758,551. The 
USFWS received $4,700,000 for Pacific Salmon Treaty Implementation in 
the Hatchery Operations account starting in FY 2020. The USFWS uses 
these funds to work with State agencies and Tribes to implement 
projects on anadromous salmonids subject to the PST including producing 
hatchery salmon to offset Treaty fisheries impacts Southern Resident 
Killer Whales as required under the ESA. For FY 2025 the USFWS plans to 
transfer $400,000 of the additional funds to the BIA to support Tribal 
implementation of the PST. The U.S. Section recommends maintaining that 
level of funding for FY 2025.
    The base funding for the USFWS supports critically important on-
going work and participation in the process. The funding for Pacific 
States Marine Fisheries Commission's Regional Mark Processing Center is 
utilized to meet Treaty requirements concerning data exchange with 
Canada. These program recommendations are integrated with those of 
participating State and Federal agencies to avoid duplication of effort 
and provide for the most efficient expenditure of limited funds.
    The U.S. Section of the PSC and the Treaty Tribes appreciate the 
increases in funding in recent years for the Tribes to implement the 
revised chapters of the Pacific Salmon Treaty. Tribal programs are 
essential for the United States to meet its international obligations. 
Tribal programs have taken on additional management responsibilities 
over time. All participating agencies need to be adequately supported 
to achieve a comprehensive U.S. effort to implement the Treaty. The 
U.S. Section of the PSC recommends the proposed increase in funding to 
support the work carried out by the twenty-five Treaty Tribes' 
participating in implementation of the Treaty. Programs carried out by 
the Tribes are closely coordinated with those of participating State 
and Federal agencies.
    The USFWS activities are essential, so the U.S. can maintain the 
coded wire tag database necessary to implement the Treaty. The work of 
the Regional Mark Processing Center includes maintaining and updating a 
coastwide computerized information management system for salmon harvest 
data as required by the Treaty. This work has become even more 
important to monitor the success of management actions aimed at 
reducing impacts on ESA-listed salmon populations. Canada has a 
counterpart database. The U.S. database will continue to be housed at 
the Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission. The U.S. Section 
appreciates the $4,700,000 in the Hatchery Operations account of the 
USFWS budget to work with State agencies and Tribes on Treaty 
implementation. The U.S. Section recommends maintaining that funding 
for FY 2025.
    Funding to support activities under the Pacific Salmon Commission 
comes from the Departments of Interior, State, and Commerce. The U.S. 
Section can provide a cross-cut budget summary to the Committee. 
Adequate funding from all three Departments is necessary for the U.S. 
to meet its Treaty obligations. All the funds are needed for critical 
data collection and research activities directly related to the 
implementation and are used in cooperative programs involving Federal, 
State, and Tribal fishery agencies and the Department of Fisheries and 
Oceans in Canada. The commitment of the United States is matched by the 
commitment of the Government of Canada.
    Mister Chair, the United States and Canada established the Pacific 
Salmon Commission, under the Pacific Salmon Treaty of 1985, to conserve 
salmon stocks, provide for optimum production of salmon, and to control 
salmon interceptions. After thirty-eight years, the work of the Pacific 
Salmon Commission continues to be essential for the wise management of 
salmon in the Pacific Northwest, British Columbia, and Alaska. For 
example, upriver bright fall Chinook salmon from the Hanford Reach of 
the Columbia River are caught in large numbers in Alaskan and Canadian 
waters. Tribal and non-Tribal fishers harvest sockeye salmon from 
Canada's Fraser River in the Strait of Juan de Fuca and in Puget Sound. 
Canadian trollers off the west coast of Vancouver Island catch 
Washington coastal Coho salmon and Puget Sound Chinook salmon. In the 
Northern Boundary area between Canada and Alaska, fish from both 
countries are intercepted by the other country in large numbers.
    The Pacific Salmon Commission provides a forum to ensure 
cooperative management of salmon populations. The United States and 
Canada reached agreements for revised Annex Chapters for management of 
Chinook, Coho, Chum, Fraser River Sockeye and Pink, and transboundary 
salmon populations for the next 10 years. It is critically important to 
have adequate resources for U.S. participants to implement the revised 
agreements and protect our Tribal Treaty resources.
    Before the Pacific Salmon Treaty, fish wars often erupted with one 
or both countries overharvesting fish that were returning to the other 
country, to the detriment of the resource. At the time the Treaty was 
signed, Chinook salmon were in a severely depressed state because of 
overharvest in the ocean as well as environmental degradation in the 
spawning rivers. Under the Treaty, both countries committed to rebuild 
the depressed runs of Chinook stocks and recommitted to that goal in 
1999 when adopting a coastwide abundance-based approach to harvest 
management. Under this approach, harvest management has complemented 
habitat conservation and restoration activities undertaken by the 
States, Tribes, and other stakeholders in the Pacific Northwest to 
address the needs of salmon listed for protection under the Endangered 
Species Act. The updated Annex Chapters continue these commitments. The 
combination of these efforts is integral to achieving success in 
rebuilding and restoring healthy, sustainable salmon populations.
    Finally, you should consider that the value of the commercial 
harvest of salmon subject to the Treaty, managed at productive levels 
under the Treaty, supports the infrastructure of many coastal and 
inland communities. The value of the commercial, recreational 
fisheries, and the economic diversity they provide for local economies 
throughout the Pacific Northwest and Alaska, is immense. The Commission 
funded an economic study of fisheries and determined that this resource 
creates thousands of jobs and is a multi-billion-dollar industry. The 
value of these fish to the twenty-four Treaty Tribes in Washington, 
Oregon, and Idaho goes far beyond their monetary value, to the cultural 
and religious lives of American Indian people.
    The Commission funded a study to capture the socioeconomic value of 
the fisheries to U.S. Tribes and Canadian First Nations. A significant 
monetary investment is focused on salmon due to the listings of Pacific 
Northwest salmon populations under the Endangered Species Act. Given 
these resources, we continue to utilize the Pacific Salmon Commission 
to develop recommendations that help with the development and 
implementation of solutions to minimize impacts on listed stocks. We 
continue to work towards the true intent of the Treaty, and with your 
support, we will manage this shared resource for mutual enhancements 
and benefits.
    Mister Chair, that concludes my written testimony submitted for 
consideration by the Committee. I want to thank the Committee for the 
support that it has given the U.S. Section in the past. Please feel 
free to contact me, or other members of the U.S. Section to answer any 
questions you or Committee members may have regarding the U.S. Section 
of the Pacific Salmon Commission budget.

    [This statement was submitted by W. Ron Allen, Tribal Commissioner 
and Chair of the Finance and Administration.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Partnership for the National Trails System
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony on behalf of the 
Partnership for the National Trails System (PNTS). Use of the 32 
Congressionally designated National Scenic and Historic Trails (NSHTs) 
has grown substantially since the onset of the pandemic and is expected 
to continue to grow, making increased investment in National Trails 
System (NTS) critical to meet public demand. PNTS requests the 
following Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 funding for NSHT and the wider trails 
system on Federal lands:

  --Bureau of Land Management (BLM): $14 million for NSHT operations, 
        as well as a minimum of $3.15 million for Historic Trail 145 
        Interpretive Centers and $78.145 million for the wider National 
        Conservation Lands.

  --National Park Service (NPS): $20.964 million for NSHT operations 
        plus $15 million for the Rivers, Trails and Conservation 
        Assistance (RTCA) program, at least $8 million for Volunteers 
        in Parks, a minimum of $10.95 million for Visitor Services sub-
        activity Youth Partnership Programs and $125 million for the 
        Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership.

  --U.S. Forest Service (USFS): $30 million for Trails with $15 million 
        for NSHTs in the Capital Improvement and Maintenance (CMTL) 
        account plus $70 million for Recreation, Heritage and 
        Wilderness and $100 million for Legacy Roads and Trails.

    PNTS supports robust funding for the Land and Water Conservation 
Fund (LWCF) with up to $20 million set aside from the Federal land 
acquisition programs of the BLM, the NPS and the USFS for projects that 
complete NSHTs and protect side or connecting trails and viewsheds. 
Finally, we ask that Congress fully fund agency requests for deferred 
maintenance projects on NSHTs.
    Authorized through the 1968 National Trails System Act, the NTS 
includes 10 National Scenic Trails (NSTs) and 22 National Historic 
Trails (NHTs) that will eventually preserve over 62,000 miles of public 
trails, traversing all 50 States and the District of Columbia, 
connecting 84 national parks, 89 national forests, 70 national wildlife 
refuges, over 100 BLM public land areas and 179 national wilderness 
areas. The NTS continues to grow with new trails in the pipeline to be 
considered by Congress in 2025 and beyond. NSHTs represent a broad 
spectrum of our Nation's iconic landscapes and its natural and cultural 
heritage. From the Southern Appalachian Mountains to the wildest 
reaches of Alaska, the San Francisco Bay and the breathtaking coast of 
the ``Big Island'' of Hawaii, they feature diverse ecosystems and shine 
a light on the stories of the lands, the people and the United States 
as a nation such as the struggles for independence and equal rights, 
the forced relocation of Native Americans, the trails blazed by 
indigenous peoples, immigrants and pioneers and more.
    NSHTs are collaboratively managed with volunteer-based, private 
nonprofit partners and Federal administrators. In 2023 alone, nonprofit 
partners leveraged Federal funds to raise and invest over $56.5 million 
in private funding and volunteer hours on NSHTs. PNTS is the only 
national nonprofit focused on NSHTs. Our trail organization members are 
the primary partners working with the Federal agencies to cooperatively 
manage, construct, maintain, protect, and promote the NTS.
    PNTS is grateful for support for NSHTs, and all trails administered 
by the land management agencies that Congress has provided, in the 
FY2024 House Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations bill. It will 
have an incredible impact on the general public and on local economies. 
We also thank you for the 2020 passage of the Great American Outdoors 
Act and urge the reauthorization of the Legacy Restoration Fund to 
continue to address the backlog of deferred maintenance to the Nation's 
trail system that is the result of inadequate ongoing regular funding 
and the impact of climate change reflected to increasing levels of 
wildfire and storms.
    Adequate annual funding is essential to achieving Congressional 
intent to provide high quality outdoor recreation opportunities for 
urban and rural communities on National Trails. It is up to Congress to 
ensure that adequate annual trail funding needs are met so the agencies 
and their nonprofit partners have sufficient resources to complete and 
maintain NSHTs to the necessary, expected and deserved standard. Public 
access to public lands is at stake.
          land management agency staffing and assessment needs
    The impact of funding increases for trail development and 
maintenance over the last several years cannot be fully realized 
without adequate agency staffing. For instance, the commitment to fund 
deferred maintenance through GAOA has been critically needed yet, 
without additional staff resources, the backlog continues to grow even 
as specific deferred maintenance is addressed.
    The administrative and field staff at Federal land agencies have 
been severely reduced over the past 20 years, leading to fewer 'boots 
on the ground' and less oversight. For example, many USFS positions 
were vacated over the last decade due to ``fire borrowing.'' While 
Congress fixed that budgetary issue years ago, the results linger, and 
agency staff has not been restored to its previous strength.
    Federal agency NSHT staff work collaboratively with nonprofit trail 
partners, providing crucial administration, oversight, skills, and 
expertise. Their guidance is key to the success of nonprofit partners 
as they fulfill their co-management responsibilities, and as they 
recruit, train and marshal tens of thousands of volunteers in public 
service. Staffing must be substantially increased to sustain the 
current NTS, and to increase its capacity should Congress choose to 
designate more NSHTs.
    As the Committee prepares the FY 2025 budget, PNTS requests 
increased funding for Federal staffing at land management agencies as 
noted below, including at least one dedicated superintendent or 
administrator per NSHT, with related direction for the agencies. PNTS 
requests report language to audit the centralized agency hiring 
practices, which have been identified as a roadblock to filling 
thousands of crucial vacancies. Centralizing hiring prevents land 
managers from quickly filling vacancies from local talent pools. The 
cumbersome process slows hiring so much that vacancies often go 
unfilled. This is especially true for short term or seasonal positions.
    Great disparities in the levels of funding appropriated to operate 
each NSHT exist, further exacerbating the staff limitations on these 
trails. For greater clarity and transparency and to ensure fiscally 
sound management of the NTS, PNTS requests the Committee direct 
agencies administering NSHT to conduct an assessment to examine the 
actual needs and costs of operating NSTs and NHTs to establish a 
baseline level of funding needed to operate and staff trails.
                    bureau of land management (blm)
    The BLM administers and manages NSHTs as part of its National 
Conservation Lands. BLM protects nearly 6,000 miles of 18 designated 
trails in 15 States, in addition to thousands of miles of trails under 
study for potential designation. It administers the Iditarod NHT and 
co-administers the Old Spanish and El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro NHT 
with the NPS.
    We are grateful that Congress included language in the FY 2022 bill 
to encourage BLM to restructure its budget and for noting a dedicated 
National Trails System budget line item as an example. Moving forward, 
we request Congress continue to its support of adding transparency to 
agency budgeting by instructing BLM to retain and effectively manage 
its line items for trails and for each NSHT in its budget. At a 
minimum, like the guidance the subcommittee provided to the USFS in FY 
2020, we ask that the FY 2025 bill direct BLM to include unit-level 
allocations within major sub-activities for each of the NSHTs as BLM 
has done for individual national monuments, wilderness areas, and 
conservation areas.
    PNTS requests including at least $14 million for NSHTs to 
administer, manage, maintain and improve the Trails under BLM 
jurisdiction on public lands and add or improve amenities for trails. 
This should include for interpretive planning and resource inventory 
work on the Iditarod NHT.
    PNTS also respectfully requests $78.154 million for overall 
management of the National Conservation Lands. This level of funding is 
needed to properly administer the system's expansion by 18 million 
acres since 2000, and will permit increased inventory, monitoring, and 
protection of cultural resources, enhance proper management of all 
resources and provide a quality visitor experience.
                      national park service (nps)
    The NPS administers 26 NSHTs established by Congress. Funding at 
$20.964 million within the Park Service Operations account for the 
NSHTs is essential for keeping these popular trails that connect people 
to iconic landscapes and the quintessential stories of the U.S., both 
past and present, accessible for all. This request will help the work 
of NPS and its nonprofit trail organization partners as they build, 
maintain, and interpret the trails.
    PNTS requests additional fund totaling for construction projects on 
the Ice Age NST ($55,000), the Overmountain Victory trail ($1 Millon), 
and for signage along the Washington Rochambeau Revolutionary Route in 
the run up to the event's 250th Anniversary ($150,000), and to fund the 
completion of the long overdue, Congressionally required Comprehensive 
Plan for the Potomac Heritage Trail.
    In addition, continued support for the RTCA program will provide 
NPS expertise in trail and other recreation access projects to 
communities across the country. When a community asks for assistance 
with a trail or other project, NPS staff provide critical tools for 
success, on-location facilitation, and planning expertise, which draw 
from project experiences across the country and adapt best practices to 
a community's specific needs. Funding at $15 million will ensure these 
trail planning services are available to communities in all regions of 
the Nation.
                       u.s. forest service (usfs)
    The USFS is the administering Federal agency for five NSTs 
(Arizona, Florida, Pacific Northwest, Continental Divide and Pacific 
Crest), one NHT (Nez Perce) and manages 16 NSHTs in part where they are 
on USFS managed lands.
    Funding for the USFS administered and managed portions of the NSHT 
comes from the CMTL account. In FY25, PNTS respectfully requests an 
appropriation of $30 million USFS managed trails, with $15 million 
specifically allocated to the NSHT. This funding will allow the USFS to 
meet its administering agency responsibilities such as trail-wide 
coordination, guidance, technical assistance, and consultation with 
National Trail managers. Congressionally designated NSHT are special 
places and have specific legislative requirements that are broader than 
typical trail construction and maintenance activities on National 
Forest System trails. These legislative requirements, particularly the 
requirement for volunteer engagement and partnerships with volunteer 
organizations, are unique to NSHT programs and form a core component of 
their administration. Funding the USFS NSHT at $15 million will assist 
the Service meet its management responsibilities. An additional 
$888,000 for new trail construction for priority reroute projects on 
the Arizona NST.
    As part of its ongoing 'budget modernization' project the USFS 
removed the salaries and travel expenses from the CMTL line. This makes 
it impossible for trail partner nonprofits to track staff time 
dedicated to national trails. Already, we've seen the loss of a 
dedicated trail administrator position in favor of a much broader, 
regional trail administrator position and consolidation of their 
duties. Such a trend would further overwhelm over-extended staff in a 
manner that threatens the quality and integrity of the NSHT. We 
respectfully ask that the subcommittee include language in its FY25 
appropriations bill that compels USFS to calculate and provide staff 
and travel expenses in addition to CMTL for the National Trails System 
trails or otherwise delineate those expenses for each NSHT in its 
budget.
    We request report language that encourages the Forest Service to 
prioritize funding for their private partners who can often leverage 
Federal funds with private dollars and volunteer labor to extend the 
impact of the Nation's investment in these trails
                land and water conservation fund (lwcf)
    We appreciate and look forward to a minimum of $900 million in 
annual LWCF appropriations being utilized to protect public lands. 
Given the healthy pipeline of forthcoming land preservation projects on 
National Trails, PNTS respectfully requests Congress increase funding 
to a minimum of $20 million per year for the next 3 years for NSHT. The 
funding provides an important opportunity for agencies to prioritize 
voluntary trail land protection projects on Congressionally designated 
NSHTs. Dedicated funding would empower NSHT public and private partners 
to more actively pursue NHST projects to complete NSHTs.
    PNTS stands ready to work with you to secure critically important 
programs that help fund, maintain and protect the NTS across the 
Nation. The examples provided in the testimony of how the funding will 
be used represent only a small proportion of the work being done and 
funding needs of the NTS. PNTS would be happy to provide additional 
detailed information as needed. Thank you for the opportunity to 
provide this testimony and your consideration of our request for 
greater investment in our National Trails System.

    [This statement was submitted by Courtney Lyons Garcia, Executive 
Director, Partnership for the National Trails System.]
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      Prepared Statement of Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the Friends of 
Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge, which was formed in 1994 to 
support the Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge. We appreciate the 
opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in 
funding for National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and Maintenance 
account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    Established in 1994, as the 502nd national wildlife refuge in the 
country, the Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge and Management Area 
is located in rural southwestern Indiana, in Pike and Gibson counties. 
The refuge is 30 miles north of the city of Evansville, Indiana by way 
of State Road 57 and adjacent to the small towns of Oakland City along 
State Road 64 and Winslow on State Road 61.
    As of 2021 the Refuge was a mosaic of 10,295 acres of non-
contiguous parcels, and the Refuge continues to grow. Acquisitions 
obtained each year from willing sellers move the Refuge closer to the 
completion of its authorized 22,472-acre boundary. This boundary 
stretches for 20 miles as the crow flies in an east-west direction 
along the lower third reach of the 162-mile-long Patoka River. It 
includes 30 miles of Patoka River channel, 19 miles of cut-off river 
oxbows, three miles of the South Fork Patoka River, and 12,700 acres of 
existing bottomland wetland habitat. Shaped by the last retreating 
glacier 10,000 years ago, the Patoka River meanders through the sand, 
gravel, and silt deposits from the glacial outwash.
    Lying within the Southern Bottomlands and Southwestern Lowlands 
Natural Regions, the principle natural habitat in the Patoka River 
Refuge is bottomland forested wetland. These wetlands provide some of 
the most productive wood duck nesting and brood-rearing habitat in the 
State. They also support several nesting colonies of great blue herons. 
A few select areas of old growth forest maintain a healthy population 
of nesting cerulean warblers. These and other species of neotropical 
migratory songbirds thrive in this rich ecosystem which lies within the 
historically important north-south flyway of the Wabash River Basin.
    Two outlying wildlife management areas (WMAs) are also managed out 
of the Patoka River Refuge headquarters. The 463-acre Cane Ridge WMA 
lies 24 miles to the west of Oakland City. This Wabash River bottoms 
property lies off the southwest corner of the 3,000-acre Gibson Lake. 
The 219-acre White River Bottoms WMA lies nine miles to the north of 
Oakland City, just to the northwest of Petersburg on the south side of 
the White River.
    The mission of the National Wildlife Refuge System is to administer 
a national network of lands and waters for the conservation, 
management, and where appropriate, restoration of the fish, wildlife, 
and plant resources and their habitats within the United States for the 
benefit of present and future generations of Americans.
    For more information, visit the Refuge website at: www.fws.gov/
refuge/patoka_river/
    The refuge provides an area for the community to get out and enjoy 
nature by hiking, fishing hunting, bird watching, painting, photography 
etc.. The refuge also protects Over 380 species of wildlife, including 
nesting bald eagles, the Federally endangered Indiana bat and the 
threatened northern copperbelly watersnake that reside upon the Refuge. 
At least 20 plant species and 63 animal species considered as 
threatened, endangered or of special concern by the State of Indiana 
live within this river valley. The friends group works on projects such 
as building trails, surveying wildlife and eradicating invasive 
species. In addition to this they offer programs and activities, and 
educating the public about this special place and what it has to offer. 
This year programs had included: In February a ``Species Spotlight'' on 
the Whooping Crane. In the not-so-distant past, Whooping Cranes faced 
near extinction throughout North America. Thanks to the widespread 
conservation efforts, their population is slowly growing. A few can 
frequently be seen at the Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge. March 
was ``An Evening with the Woodcocks'' a unique birding experience for 
the whole family. April was Wabash and Erie Canal Walk/Talk. Where 
there are places the canal can still be recognized to this day on the 
Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge. Also in April the Friends Group 
gave away 1000 trees to members of the community in support of 
conservation efforts and in celebration of Earth Day. May the 18th at 
10 AM Central Time is a program on Dragonflies and Damselflies. 
Additional programs are being planned for the remainder of the year.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    **Anything further you want to say.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Nancy Gehlhausen, President of the Friends of Patoka River National 
Wildlife Refuge, at naturegirl.gehlhausen@gmail.com, Phone: 812-457-
4859, Address: 510 and One Half West Morton Street, Oakland City, IN 
47660

    [This statement was submitted by Lisa Clark, Board Member, Patoka 
River National Wildlife Refuge.]
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       Prepared Statement of Physicians for Social Responsibility
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide written testimony to 
highlight the funding priorities of Physicians for Social 
Responsibility (PSR) within the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 
for fiscal year 2025 (FY25). PSR is a national non-profit organization 
that works to protect human life from the gravest threats to health and 
survival, namely climate change and nuclear war. Our 24,000 members and 
e-activists and over 20 chapters nationwide contribute a health 
perspective to energy, environmental health, and nuclear weapons policy 
at all levels of government. On behalf of our membership, we urge the 
Committee to support $12 billion in funding for the Environmental 
Protection Agency in fiscal year 2025.
    While the Nation, with EPA's leadership, has made great progress in 
cleaning up air pollution thanks to the directives of the Clean Air 
Act, poor air quality contributed to by a range of pollution sources 
continues to threaten health across the country. Exposure to emissions 
like particulate matter, ozone, nitrogen oxides and sulfur dioxides can 
trigger asthma attacks, worsen lung conditions, lead to developmental 
and reproductive harm and even cause premature death. In addition to 
these severe impacts, climate change caused by carbon pollution is also 
a health emergency. Communities across the country are experiencing 
adverse health and mental health impacts due to changing climate 
conditions, such as increasingly frequent and severe natural disasters, 
record high temperatures, and stress on existing infrastructure, water 
systems and food production. Moving forward, we can avoid worsening 
some of the catastrophic impacts we're seeing now while also delivering 
immediate health benefits. EPA's work to protect public health from 
pollution and climate change is imperative and deserves robust, 
dedicated funding.
    EPA is also responsible for administering funds to States, 
localities, Tribes and communities to improve air quality and build 
resilience. Funding spurred by the Inflation Reduction Act is leading 
to additional improvements across the country and PSR supports its 
continued implementation. However, that funding does not replace the 
need for necessary and predictable funding of the agency's core 
programmatic work. Below, we have highlighted several key areas that 
are need of strong appropriations for FY25:
    Provide $915.5 million for EPA's Clean Air program. Robust funding 
for EPA's clean air work is necessary to meet the agency's 
responsibility under the Clean Air Act to protect health. This funding 
allows EPA to assist States, localities and Tribes with meeting Federal 
clean air standards by providing technical assistance, resources and 
expertise on how to clean up the sectors that contribute to air quality 
challenges. Please provide $694.6 million for Environmental Programs 
and Management and $220.9 million for Science and Technology.
    Provide $500 million for State and Local Air Quality Monitoring 
Grants and $57.4 million for Tribal Air Quality Monitoring Grants. 
State, local and Tribal air agencies receive grants from EPA to help 
maintain their air monitoring networks. Air agencies are operating 
under constrained budgets, impairing their ability to adequately 
maintain and improve air monitors. This funding is crucial to help 
inform the public about local air quality risks to their health and in 
identifying areas that are most in need of pollution cleanup.
    Provide at least $369.1 million for environmental justice efforts. 
Far too many communities are still waiting on the promise of clean air 
and a healthy environment. Targeted funding dedicated to improving air 
quality in disadvantaged communities and to advance the protection of 
those overburdened by pollution is necessary to close the gaps of 
health and environmental inequities.
    Provide $5 million for coal ash remediation. Coal ash constitutes 
the second-largest industrial waste stream in the U.S., second only to 
mining wastes. For decades, power plants disposed of coal ash by 
dumping it in unlined ponds, landfills, and mines where the toxic 
pollution could leak into the air, waterways, and groundwater. Coal ash 
routinely contains the neurotoxin mercury, cancer-causing elements such 
as cadmium, chromium and arsenic, and other dangerous substances. 
Exposure to coal ash can have negative impacts on all bodily systems 
and can contribute to mortality through cancer, heart disease, 
respiratory illnesses and birth defects. With new finalized regulations 
from EPA addressing coal ash remediation, proper funding must be 
ensured.
    Provide $150 million for the Diesel Emissions Reduction Act and 
Support the Clean School Bus Program. The Diesel Emissions Reduction 
(DERA) Grant program continues to be a successful program that enjoys 
bipartisan support. According to EPA's 2022 report to Congress, the 
health benefits of diesel emissions reduction projects are cost-
effective, with monetized health benefits estimated to exceed Federal 
funding by a factor of 10 to 1. However, there are still millions of 
dirty diesel engines that are polluting communities--particularly low-
income areas and communities of color. We also urge the Committee to 
support the popular Clean School Bus Program. The program has already 
led to the replacement of dirty diesel school buses with cleaner zero-
emission versions; PSR supports even greater adoption of zero-emission 
school buses.
    Provide $100 million for the Office of Air and Radiation/Indoor 
Environments Division and $10 million to EPA's Office of Children's 
Health Protection. Exposure to indoor air pollution can decrease school 
attendance, negatively impact test scores and worsen asthma symptoms, 
among other negative health impacts. PSR strongly supports the 
prioritization of indoor air quality through building decarbonization, 
promotion of energy efficiency, and decreasing the use of fossil fuels 
in homes. Outside of the home, educators and school personnel need 
education, training and resources to implement effective prevention 
measures. A 2020 GAO report found that 41% of school districts were in 
need of HVAC repairs in at least half of their schools. Additionally, 
the Office of Children's Health Protection plays a critical role in 
researching children's risks and exposures in school and childcare 
facilities.
    Provide $15 million for wildfire smoke preparedness. Wildfire smoke 
is an urgent and increasing threat to public health, and it is not 
confined to western areas of the country. In 2023, wildfires in Canada 
and the Northeast set off unprecedented air quality alerts down the 
East Coast, increasing emergency department visits for asthma-related 
conditions. EPA plays a vital role in forecasting and communicating the 
impacts of wildfire smoke.
    Oppose all policy riders. Lastly, PSR strongly opposes the 
inclusion of policy riders that would weaken clean air or other 
environmental protections, particularly those that would undermine the 
Clean Air Act and its benefits to public health. We urge the Committee 
to reject policy riders in appropriations bills.
    Investments in EPA programs are critical to protecting public 
health and our shared climate. On behalf of Physicians for Social 
Responsibility, I thank you for your consideration of these requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Brian Campbell, PhD, Executive 
Director, Physicians for Social Responsibility.]
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         Prepared Statement of Prairie Wetlands Learning Center
    I am submitting this testimony as a retired U.S. Fish and Wildlife 
Service employee and current volunteer at the Prairie Wetlands Learning 
Center, part of the Fergus Falls Wetland Management District in Fergus 
Falls, Minnesota and part of the National Wildlife Refuge System. I was 
employed there for 18 years ending last summer. Thank you for the 
opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill. I request Congress to allocate $602.3 million in 
funding for the National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and 
Maintenance account under the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS).
                    prairie wetlands learning center
    The award-winning Prairie Wetlands Learning Center (PWLC) sets an 
example to all of the USFWS in visitor services, especially innovation 
and effectiveness in environmental education. However, the USFWS fails 
to prioritize and adequately staff the facility to serve the public due 
to chronic inadequate funding from Congress. The visitor center has 
only been open one day per week to walk-in visitors for the last 2 
years due to declining staffing. The only USFWS employee currently 
working there is a maintenance professional.
    Visitor services have been significantly reduced for its former 
70,000 annual walk-in visitors, preschool through college classes, 
youth, and families. The PWLC no longer offers USFWS staff-led 
educational programming for preschool through college-level classes 
visiting the center with the exception of two visits per year with 
Fergus Falls Public Schools 3rd graders. Since most teachers prefer 
staff-led visits, the Prairie is void of the delighted voices of 
thousands of children from over 30 communities who visited up to 3 
times per year for the past 15 years. The PWLC no longer offers 
preschool through 6th grade summer nature programs, residential 
educational experiences for 5th grade and older, the Jr. Friends of the 
PWLC for youth, numerous special events for the public, and much more. 
Monarch tagging has been severely reduced at a critical time for this 
vanishing species. The PWLC has been tagging monarchs with students and 
the public longer than any other site in the National Wildlife Refuge 
System.
    The USFWS has recently invested large sums of Federal funds in 
building and parking lot renovations (which I applaud) but cannot staff 
the facilities to keep the doors open. The epitome of government waste. 
This is what flatlining agency budgets looks like on the ground. Who 
are the Fergus Falls Public Schools supposed to partner with for the 
new school they propose to build across Highway 210 from the PWLC 
entrance?
    This past winter, a former Friends of the PWLC president and I 
alerted the public to this staffing crisis. As a result of the public 
response, USFWS regional director Will Meeks committed to filling two 
of the four vacant positions by fall. Filling two vacancies sets us in 
the right direction, and at a minimum, we need the other two filled for 
a fully staffed and fully operational facility. It is past time for 
Congress to do its part to reverse this trend for the PWLC as well as 
for hundreds of sites in the National Wildlife Refuge System across the 
country.
                          friends of the pwlc
    The Friends of the PWLC are contributing to resolving this chronic 
and urgent matter by securing grant funds to temporarily hire a few 
seasonal naturalists (myself included) to keep the few remaining 
services afloat. However, it is not the role of Friends groups to 
permanently fix this ongoing crisis. It is Congress' job to provide 
Federal funding to fill Federal positions. I urge Congress to prevent 
frustrating and morale busting emergencies like this from happening 
again and to fully and sustainably fund and staff the internationally 
recognized PWLC so it can return to full staff capacity and full 
operations serving the public.

    The Friends of the PWLC:

  --Promote conservation and understanding of the prairie pothole 
        region

  --Support activities of the Prairie Wetlands Learning Center

  --Creatively generate funds and foster volunteer involvement at the 
        PWLC.

  --Solicit community, regional, Statewide and Federal support.

    More specifically, the Friends own and operate the Bluestem Store, 
welcome visitors, help staff events, provide funding for an education 
intern, help administer the annual Summer Explorers Biology Camp and 
concurrent Teaching in the Outdoor Classroom Workshop, publish a 
quarterly newsletter and The Compass to Nature booklet, sponsor a 
narrow photography contest, and donate thousands of hours of volunteer 
time to the PWLC. They have raised funds for construction of a teaching 
greenhouse and continue to fund a naturalist position.
                       pwlc and western minnesota
    The PWLC is so vital to western Minnesota that the city of Fergus 
Falls unanimously passed a resolution in support of fully funding, 
staffing and operating the facility. The city of Fergus Falls is the 
first Prairie City USA, has been a signatory to the Mayors Monarch 
Pledge for 5 years, has established numerous pockets of prairie in city 
parks and sites, and is a Fergus Falls Wetland Management District 
Partner of the Year. In large part, these achievements have occurred 
because of outreach efforts of PWLC staff into the community over more 
than 25 years.
    The city and USFWS have worked in close partnership since 1998 
through a Memorandum of Understanding. The city owns the PWLC 
buildings, while the USFWS owns the remaining acreage as Townsend 
Waterfowl Production Area and provides staff and most maintenance. The 
USFWS also works in close partnership with Fergus Falls Public Schools 
through another MOU for housing and operating the Prairie Science Class 
since 2003, where the same 200, 4th and 5th graders spend half of every 
school day over 9 months at the Prairie, taught mainly by school 
district teachers, indoors and outside daily.
    These two most vital partnerships are the resulting legacy started 
in the 1970s by dedicated, visionary, passionate, local conservation 
heroes. They flourished among many other partnerships not only in 
Fergus Falls but beyond in western Minnesota that thrived with a fully 
staffed and fully operational PWLC.
    The PWLC is our best connection to prairie wetlands ecology and 
conservation in the vast Prairie Pothole Region creating and supporting 
a citizenry that is literate and active in land stewardship. People of 
all ages, abilities and backgrounds CAN once again engage with USFWS 
professional conservation educators outdoors in meaningful ways that 
leads to respect for and a positive relationship with the natural world 
that sustains us all.
                        america's refuge system
    The staffing crisis at the PWLC is symptomatic of a larger, long-
term problem in the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service which can be fixed 
by Congress providing funding that keeps up with costs instead of 
flatlining the agency's budget for the past 10 years. Hundreds of sites 
across the country in the National Wildlife Refuge System, including 
the PWLC, are hurting for funds for staffing and suffering from a lack 
of professionals to keep visitor services in operation and to conserve 
wildlife and the habitats they need to survive.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    I urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering my request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Thank you for your effective 
attention to this matter.
    Please feel free to contact me at msprairiefairie@gmail.com or cell 
218-770-7291.

    [This statement was submitted by Molly Stoddard.]
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               Prepared Statement of Preservation Action
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and Members of the 
subcommittee, on behalf of Preservation Action's thousands of members 
and supporters--representing nearly every State--we appreciate the 
opportunity to present written testimony on the Department of 
Interior's FY 2025 Appropriations for the National Park Service and its 
historic preservation programs. Founded in 1974, Preservation Action is 
a 501(c)4 nonprofit created to serve as the National grassroots 
advocacy organization for historic preservation. We represent an active 
and engaged grassroots constituency from across the country, and this 
testimony reflects their priorities.
    Preservation Action's mission is to demonstrate that historic 
preservation is a national priority. For 50 years we've advocated for 
sound preservation policy, including two of the most important Federal 
tools for historic preservation: the Historic Preservation Fund (HPF) 
and the Federal Historic Rehabilitation Tax Credit (HTC).
    First, we would like to thank the subcommittee for their continued 
support of historic preservation programs and priorities--especially 
for including language to reauthorize the Historic Preservation Fund 
for 1 year in your FY24 Interior Appropriations bill. No doubt the 
Committee's support was instrumental in HPF authorization being 
included in the final bill. Thanks to your support, all Americans 
continue to benefit from programs that have a proven track record of 
saving places Americans value, revitalizing communities, combating 
climate change, promoting heritage tourism, and creating jobs. In 
Fiscal Year 2024 the HPF was funded at $188.66 million, a nearly $16 
million cut below 2023 enacted levels. While we recognize the 
challenging budget, these cuts undermine the critical preservation work 
carried out by the program.
        national park service: historic preservation fund (hpf)
    The HPF is the principal source of funding to implement the 
Nation's historic preservation programs. Since 1976 the HPF has helped 
to recognize, save, revitalize, and protect America's historic 
resources.
    HPF funding is critical to ensure State and Tribal Historic 
Preservation Offices (SHPOs/THPOs), whose job it is to administer 
Federal historic preservation programs, have the staffing capacity 
needed for the timely review of infrastructure, renewable energy, and 
other Federal projects, per requirements under the National Historic 
Preservation Act. In FY 2022 SHPOs reviewed and consulted on 177,400 
Federal undertakings (a 42.7% increase over FY 2021), provided 83,200 
National Register eligibility opinions and surveyed over 5.3 million 
acres for cultural resources.
    HPF's competitive grant programs preserve, document, and exhibit 
diverse histories. These programs address a wide variety of 
preservation needs across the country and fund various types of work. 
In 2019, the Oregon Parks and Recreation Department was awarded a 
$665,000 Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization grant to implement a grant 
program for the preservation of historic theaters in rural communities. 
Eight theaters received between $80,000-$90,000 to repair and preserve 
their venues. In 2023, the Chilkoot Indian Association received a Save 
America's Treasures grant for the stabilization and rehabilitation of 
the Noow Hit Tribal house. Noow Hit is the last surviving example of 
Lingit vernacular architecture in Haines, Alaska and this $744,507 
grant preserves the knowledge of traditional construction techniques.
    Preservation Action appreciates the support this Committee has 
shown for the HPF, but more is needed. The bipartisan Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act has added significantly to the workload of 
SHPOs and THPOs and cuts to HPF grant programs, like the ones mentioned 
above, undermine preservation efforts and the economic development 
these programs produce.

  --Preservation Action recommends this subcommittee support historic 
        preservation by appropriating $225 million in funding for the 
        Historic Preservation Fund in FY25's Department of Interior 
        budget, including funding at the following levels:

  --$70 million for State Historic Preservation Officers (SHPOs). SHPOs 
        carry out the primary functions of the National Historic 
        Preservation Act: finding and documenting America's historic 
        places, nominating places to the National Register, aiding 
        rehabilitation tax credit projects, reviewing impacts of 
        Federal projects, working with local governments, and 
        conducting preservation education and planning. Due to 2023 
        changes to SHPO apportionments, 23 States did not receive an 
        increase in funding from 2022 to 2023.

  --$40 million for Save America's Treasures Program. The Save 
        America's Treasures grants program helps preserve nationally 
        significant historic properties and collections that convey our 
        Nation's rich heritage to future generations of Americans.

  --$34 million for Tribal Historic Preservation Officers (THPOs). 
        THPOs are designated by federally recognized Tribal governments 
        and assume the Federal compliance role of the SHPO on Tribal 
        lands. Tribal historic preservation plans are based on 
        traditional knowledge and cultural values, and often involve 
        projects to improve Indian schools, roads, health clinics and 
        housing. THPOs are chronically underfunded. Funding levels have 
        not kept pace with the growing number of Indian Tribes with 
        THPO programs, resulting in a lower average apportionments per 
        tribe.

  --$28 million for the African American Civil Rights Initiative 
        Grants. A competitive grant program to preserve the sites and 
        stories of the African American struggle to gain equal rights.

  --$13 million for Historically Black Colleges and Universities 
        (HBCUs). Funding provides grants to HBCUs to preserve and 
        repair historic buildings on their campuses.

  --$17 million for Paul Bruhn Historic Revitalization Subgrants. 
        Supports the rehabilitation of historic properties and fosters 
        economic development of rural communities through subgrants.

  --$11 million for the Semiquincentennial Grants. Competitive grant 
        program that preserves publicly-owned historic sites 
        commemorating the 250th anniversary of the founding of the U.S.

  --$7 million for the History of Equal Rights Grant Program. A 
        competitive grant program to preserve sites and stories related 
        to the struggle of all Americans to achieve equal rights.

  --$5 million for the Under-Represented Communities Grant Program. 
        Competitive grants that support the survey and nomination of 
        properties to the National Register of Historic Places 
        associated with under-represented communities.
     total fy 2025 historic preservation fund request: $225 million
    Additionally, we are grateful to Congress for reauthorizing the HPF 
for 1-year as part of the FY24 Appropriations bill and urge support for 
a longer-term authorization. Preservation Action supports the 
bipartisan Historic Preservation Fund Reauthorization Act (H.R. 3350), 
which would reauthorize the HPF for 10 years and increase the 
authorized level to $250 million annually. This would provide much-
needed certainty to the States, Tribes, and local communities that rely 
on this funding to carry out their critical preservation work.

  --Preservation Action encourages inclusion of language to reauthorize 
        the Historic Preservation Fund and increase the authorized 
        level. The HPF's authorization has not been increased since the 
        program's inception in 1976 and the program's current 
        authorization is set to expire in September of this year.
national park service: federal historic rehabilitation tax credit (htc)
    The HTC, administered by SHPOs, THPOs, and the National Park 
Service is the most significant Federal investment in historic 
preservation. The HTC supports historic rehabilitation projects across 
the country, like the recent rehabilitation of the Patton Home in 
Portland, OR. The Patton Home was built in 1890 to provide shelter and 
social services to those and need and is now continuing that tradition 
by providing affordable housing to Portland's neediest residents. The 
HTC has been a catalyst for development and job creation, and is 
responsible for:

  --Rehabilitating more than 49,000 historic buildings across the 
        Nation.

  --Leveraging over $235 billion in private investment.

  --Creating more than 3.2 million jobs since its inception.

  --Producing over 199,000 affordable housing units.

  --Rehabilitating buildings and revitalizing communities in all 50 
        States.

  --Returning more to the Treasury than the cost of the program.

    Preservation Action supports the bipartisan Historic Tax Credit 
Growth and Opportunity Act (H.R 1785, S. 639), which would increase the 
value of the HTC, improve access to the credit, and make the credit 
more appealing for smaller projects.

  --Preservation Action urges the Committee to support the HTC by 
        sufficiently funding SHPOs, THPOs and the National Park Service 
        who administer the program.
  national park service: african-american burial grounds preservation 
                                program
    The African American Burial Grounds Preservation Program was 
established by Congress in 2023 and was included in the President's 
budget request. This program will identify, document, preserve, 
research, and interpret these historic and sacred burial sites whose 
protection and documentation has too often been neglected or forgotten.

  --Preservation Action supports $3 million in funding for the newly 
        authorized, African-American Burial Grounds Preservation 
        Program.
             national park service: national heritage areas
    Designated by Congress, National Heritage Areas (NHAs) are 
community-driven sites that weave cultural, natural, and historic 
resources together to tell nationally significant stories. NHAs rely on 
public-private funding where every Federal dollar allocated is matched 
with an average of $5.50 in public and private funds.

  --We express our support for $34 million for the Heritage Partnership 
        Program, which supports National Heritage Areas nationwide. 
        This funding level keeps individual NHAs at their existing 
        funding levels while providing funding for newly authorized 
        NHAs.
     independent agency: advisory council on historic preservation
    The Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP) is an 
independent Federal agency that promotes the preservation, enhancement, 
and sustainable use of the Nation's diverse historic resources, and 
advises the President and Congress on national historic preservation 
policy. We appreciate the continued support of this important agency.

  --Preservation Action recommends the Committee support $10.5 million 
        for the ACHP. This will enhance the critical functions of the 
        agency: ensuring the Nation's historic and cultural resources 
        are protected, advancing Tribal consultation, and finding 
        efficiencies to deliver timely Federal review of major 
        infrastructure projects.
                               conclusion
    Preservation Action appreciates the opportunity to provide our 
views on the FY25 Department of Interior budget. We work closely with a 
broad cross-section of preservation professionals from the State and 
local level and are pleased to add their perspective through our 
testimony. We value the dedicated work of National Park Service 
employees, partnership with the Advisory Council on Historic 
Preservation, and the instrumental work of SHPOs and THPOs in 
preserving our cultural heritage.
    Thank you for valuing the input of the preservation community as 
you consider the FY25 funding levels and your past support of vital 
historic preservation programs. We look forward to working with the 
committee and are happy to answer any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by Russ Carnahan, President, 
Preservation Action.]
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           Prepared Statement of the Public Lands Foundation
    We thank you for this opportunity to present the subcommittee with 
our views regarding the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) budget for FY 
2025. As a national, non-profit organization with more than 600 
members, comprised principally of retired BLM employees, the Public 
Lands Foundation (PLF) has a unique body of experience, expertise, and 
knowledge of public land management. As retirees, we believe we offer 
an objective and non-bureaucratic view of what is currently happening 
on the public lands managed by the BLM. The PLF supports the BLM and 
its programs, but we are independent in our views and requests. We 
strive to improve the effectiveness of the BLM by: 1) encouraging 
professionalism of its employees; 2) increasing the public's 
understanding of and support for the proper management of the public 
lands; and 3) promoting scientific management of lands administered by 
the BLM. The PLF supports a proposed FY 2025 budget of $1.6 billion for 
the BLM. The PLF also identifies additional funding needs in this 
written testimony.
                   bureau of land management overview
    The BLM manages the most diverse landscapes in the Nation's 
portfolio; providing stewardship to approximately 245 million acres of 
land and 700 million acres of mineral estate from the north slope of 
Alaska to Jupiter Inlet in Florida, and from tundra to old growth 
forests to desert landscapes. These lands consist of many attributes, 
habitat for thousands of species of plants and animals, clean water, 
cultural resources, scenic beauty, solitude, and special places. They 
also provide the Nation with wealth from its many resources including 
oil and gas, coal, renewable energy, non-energy minerals, all types of 
recreation, livestock grazing, timber, and wild horses and burros. The 
economic value of these lands to the American people is immense; 
according to the BLM: A Sound Investment for America 2022 report, 
during Fiscal Year 2021 these lands supported $201 billion in economic 
output and nearly 783,000 jobs. These lands are important economically 
to all taxpayers and are especially vital to the many rural communities 
throughout the West that are intermixed with these lands and whose 
citizens work and recreate on the lands. The BLM manages for a balance 
between energy development and other programs, such as wildlife, 
livestock grazing, forest management, and recreation to provide for the 
diversity of uses and maintenance of healthy, resilient landscapes.
               workforce capacity and organization health
    Three years ago Secretary Haaland made the decision to move the BLM 
Headquarters back to Washington, D.C. The PLF strongly supports that 
decision. This decision places the leadership of the BLM where it can 
better work with the Department, other agencies, OMB, Congress and 
National constituencies, while maintaining its western presence through 
its State and Field Office organizations. The reorganization in 2019 
and 2020 resulted in the loss of a large part of the senior level staff 
of the agency through reassignments to other agencies or retirements. 
This reorganization, along with the Covid-19 pandemic, resulted in a 
huge number of vacancies across the Bureau, estimated to be 25 percent 
of the full-time positions in 2023. BLM has reduced that number to a 
vacancy rate of around 19 percent, but more effort in FY 2025 is 
required. These vacancies affect the Bureau at all levels of the 
organization. The loss of capacity is impacting the BLM in efficiently 
meeting its multiple use and sustained yield mission, along with the 
additional workload that goes with implementing new initiatives such as 
the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). This lack of 
capacity is PLF's greatest concern for FY 2025. We request that 
Congress appropriate additional funding to cover workforce planning, 
hiring, and training as well as establishing more efficient hiring 
mechanisms. A 19 percent vacancy rate is significant and unacceptable.
                          greater sage-grouse
    An area of great interest to the PLF is the management of habitat 
for species across the diverse landscapes the BLM manages. Habitat for 
the greater sage-grouse is one species of particular concern because 
its management affects vast areas of the West. As the West has become 
urbanized over the last 100 years, large areas of sagebrush have been 
impacted and the bird has suffered population declines. Although it is 
a State-managed species, the BLM manages large areas of the habitat 
across the western States and must be in lock step with management 
strategies of the western States. The PLF fully supports the $71 
million funding for the BLM to coordinate activities on the public 
lands with State agencies, stakeholders, and partners to improve and 
restore habitat that has been damaged by wildfire, weed invasions, and 
development. Conserving and restoring habitat for sage-grouse will also 
enhance populations of elk, mule deer, golden eagles, and hundreds of 
other species. Healthy sagebrush habitats also sustain vibrant ranching 
communities dependent on these habitats and a thriving outdoor 
recreation economy.
                         wild horse and burros
    Wild horse and burro populations continue to be an issue. Our 
assessment of the May 2020 Report to Congress is that it presented a 
conservative estimate of what it would take to achieve a sustainable 
wild horse and burro program. Unfortunately, entering FY 2024, the 
program is $50 million behind in needed cumulative funding and over $70 
million behind what was needed for Program Year 4 . This has resulted 
in a disconnect between ability to gather excess animals, apply 
fertility control and regather for continued application of fertility 
drugs, and cover the cost of caring for animals removed from the range. 
Inadequate numbers are being gathered and inadequate numbers are being 
treated with fertility control drugs as priority is necessarily given 
to caring for animals that have already been removed. It will only be a 
matter of years before the populations on the range return to the 2020 
levels. We urge the Congress to revisit the May 2020 Report and fund 
the Program Year 3 level of $185 million in an effort to get back on 
track to a sustainable, although delayed, basis.
               wildland fire/rangeland and forest health
    Several Administrations and Congresses have recognized that 
catastrophic wildland fires continue to be a serious issue across all 
land ownerships. These fires are the result of several conditions 
across the landscape including climate change, deteriorating forest and 
rangeland health, increased recreational use, and increased development 
within the wildland-urban interface. Providing adequate funding for 
wildfire preparedness and suppression is critical and we appreciate the 
past funding made available. Equally important is the need to reduce 
wildland fuel loads and improve forest and rangeland health and 
resiliency through active management. The land management agencies have 
been working to reduce wildland fire risks over the past few decades; 
however, there has not been adequate funding for the agencies to 
address the problem at the pace and scale needed. We appreciate 
Congress recognizing this need and providing funding through the 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Inflation Reduction Act. This 
additional funding will allow the agencies to increase the pace and 
scale of this important work. The PLF fully supports the 
recommendations of the Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management 
Commission and encourages the Congress to provide the funding necessary 
to start implementation of the consensus-based recmommendations, 
particularily those related to providing for workforce capacitiy. The 
PLF requests that the BLM and other land management agencies be fully 
funded for wildland fire suppression and landscape health and 
resiliency projects.
    An increasingly growing need confronting BLM's forest management 
program is post-disturbance reforestation. Large wildfires over the 
last several years are creating a backlog that funding and 
appropriations in this program cannot keep up with the reforestation 
need. The BLM is faced with the need to procure seedlings, complete 
site preparation and planting of damaged areas, and conduct treatments 
to assure planted seedlings survive. One very successful tool the BLM 
has to help fund forest restoration projects is the Forest Ecosystem 
Health and Recovery Fund (FEHRF). In 1992, Congress established the 
FEHRF (Public Law 102-381) to authorize the BLM to recover dead and 
dying timber rapidly and restore the forested area quickly. This Fund 
was later broadened to include forest health treatments. The Fund 
provided that the Federal share of monies received from the disposal of 
the timber from these treatments would remain available, without 
further appropriation, for the BLM to conduct similar treatments. Since 
that time, the BLM has successfully treated tens of thousands of acres 
using this authority. It has been an important source of funds on the 
O&C lands, but in particular on the Public Domain forestlands to 
restore the health of forests. Authority for this fund had sunset; 
however, it was reauthorized for 1 year through the Consolidated 
Appropriations Act for 2023 and again in the 2024 Appropriation. We 
appreciate the Committee including this important authority; however 
year-by-year reauthorization makes it very difficult to conduct 
treatments that may take multiple years to complete. We strongly 
encourage the Congress to restore authority for this important funding 
tool permanently, or in the alternative, for a period of not less than 
10 years.
                          rangeland management
    The BLM administers approximately 18,000 grazing permits on nearly 
22,000 grazing allotments. Grazing permits are generally renewed every 
10 years. A proper renewal requires an appropriate level of NEPA 
analysis to ensure healthy rangelands and conserve and protect lands 
and other important resources. There is a backlog of approximately 
10,845 permit renewals as of November 2023 with 1,445 expiring in the 
next year. A priority needs to be placed on the funding for the 
analysis and review of those permits impacting riparian areas and those 
permits not meeting rangeland health standards. Some reports have 
indicated that 54 million acres, or half of the 108 million acres of 
BLM grazing leases, do not meet rangeland health standards. If the BLM 
is unable to conduct the reviews and analyses necessary to administer 
these permit renewals, it will not only affect the range management 
program but also all other programs. This backlog of permit renewals 
exposes the agency to litigation that will consume more manpower and 
financial resources. The PLF strongly urges Congress to appropriate an 
additional $8 million specifically for the analyses and administration 
of grazing permit renewals for each of the next 3 years, starting in FY 
2025. At the proposed funding level, the BLM is only committing to 
renewing 1,000 permits in FY2025, a losing battle.
                               recreation
    The BLM has seen a dramatic increase in the recreational use of the 
public lands. Western communities are growing and recent national 
trends toward more remote work have allowed more employees to locate 
nearer public lands. One of the attractions of the public land is the 
broad spectrum of recreation activities that the public lands support, 
both dispersed recreation and developed recreation sites. In 1993, the 
BLM recreation program budget was $47 million. Adjusted for inflation, 
the FY 2025 appropriation should be $98 million just to break even with 
the much reduced workload of 30 years ago. The 2025 budget only 
proposes $61.5 million, a shortfall of $36 million. Without adequate 
and sustained increases, the adverse impacts on the public lands from 
ever-increasing recreation use will continue to be significant and the 
recreational visitor will have less than positive experiences. In FY 
2023, the BLM counted 85 million recreation visits, a 35 percent 
increase just since 2015, with most of the increase occurring in the 
last 3 years.
                 foundation for america's public lands
    The current administration recently established the Foundation for 
America's Public Lands, which was authorized by Congress in 2017. This 
Foundation is being tasked with providing supplemental resources and 
support to the BLM which will benefit all Americans who value and use 
BLM-administered public lands. Congress needs to provide sufficient 
funding in FY 2025 to allow the Foundation to become fully functional 
and begin its work on behalf of the BLM.
                    a good investment for the public
    The public lands managed by the BLM are a good investment that can 
provide positive returns to the Treasury as well as many amenities that 
contribute to the wellbeing of the American people. These lands are the 
lifeblood of many communities that provide economic development in 
commodities, recreation, cultural identity, and many other benefits.
    Thank you for the opportunity to share the PLF's priorities for the 
BLM FY 2025 Budget.

    [This statement was submitted by Mary Jo Rugwell, President, Public 
Lands Foundation.]
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                 Prepared Statement of Pueblo of Acoma
Recommendations:

    1. BIA--$1.5 million in dedicated funding for NAGPRA 
implementation.

    2. BIA--$1 million for implementation of the Safeguard Tribal 
Objects of Patrimony Act.

    3. BIA--$40 million for Tribal Historic Preservation Offices.

    4. DOI--Maintain the funding moratorium for energy leasing in the 
Greater Chaco Region.

    5. DOI--Increase funding for all public lands conservation 
accounts.

    6. IHS--Provide permanent advance appropriations for the Indian 
health system.

    7. IHS--Designate Section 105(l) lease and CSC payments as 
mandatory funding.

    8. IHS--Increase SDPI funding to $250 million with annual inflation 
adjustments.

    9. IHS--Increase funding for Preventive Health Services.

    10. DOI--Support Funding for Indian Water Rights Settlements.

    11. BIA--Not less than $90 million for the BIA Roads Maintenance 
Program.

    12. DOI--Provide targeted funding totaling $ 59 million for 
community development.

    13. BIA--$40 million for Mesa Hill Bridge Project under Tribal 
Transportation Account.

    14. BIA OTS--Increase support for traditional irrigation 
infrastructure projects.

    15. BIE--$15 million to establish Regional BIE Tele-Education 
Learning Centers.

    16. BIA--Not less than $8 million for the BIA Endangered Species 
Program.

    17. DOI--$48 million for the BIA Tribal Climate Resilience Program.
                  safeguard tribal cultural patrimony
    1. $1.5 Million for Native American Graves Protection and 
Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) Enforcement. The provision of dedicated 
NAGPRA enforcement funding has supported the creation of a new FTE 
position committed to the protection of Tribal patrimony, as well as 
Bureau-wide trainings on the law and the harmful consequences that can 
ensue when it is violated. This is contributing directly to the 
development of a more culturally competent understanding of the 
importance of Tribal patrimony to Native peoples for improved law 
enforcement activities. We ask that this funding be maintained in FY 
2025 and beyond.
    2. $3 Million for Funding Implementation of the Safeguard Tribal 
Objects of Patrimony (STOP). Act. This law, passed in the last 
Congress, will assure the protection of many sensitive Tribal items 
from illegal export. It is important to put in place the necessary 
resources in the Federal Government to enable this law to be 
implemented. We request that at least $1 million be allocated for FY 
2025 for the purposes of implementation and enforcement of this law.
    3. $40 Million for Tribal Historic Preservation Offices (THPOs). 
The preservation of Tribal sacred and cultural sites is a priority for 
all Indian Country. Damage of these sites is often irreversible, 
forever altering the way in which we can express ourselves as 
indigenous people. More Tribes are establishing THPOs under the 
National Historic Preservation Act to protect this heritage, yet 
Federal funding has not kept pace with this expansion. It is thus 
difficult for Tribal governments to meet their preservation compliance 
duties and responsibilities, which include working with other 
governments on site identification, conducting surveys, compiling data 
and samples, documenting best practices, and assisting in museums and 
research centers that preserve and share Tribal material culture. We 
request $40 million for THPO support in FY 2025.
    4. Maintain the Funding Moratorium Related to Energy Leasing in the 
Greater Chaco Region. We request that Congress maintain the moratorium 
on oil and gas leasing on Federal land in the withdrawal area of the 
Greater Chaco Region. We request this moratorium span the lifetime of 
the legislation rather than becoming ineffective upon completion of the 
ongoing Tribally-led cultural resource studies. However, if a temporal 
limit must be included, we ask the moratorium stay in place until 
completion of the studies and the Resource Management Plan Amendment.
    5. Increase Funding for All Public Lands Conservation Program 
Accounts. Acoma's religious, cultural, social, and ancestral identity 
is rooted in the land of Bears Ears, Mount Taylor, and Chaco Canyon-
among countless other sacred landscapes in the region. Any reductions 
in the Federal protections accorded to these lands per their status as 
National Monuments, Forests, Parks, or Wilderness Areas necessarily 
impacts our cultural and spiritual interests. The failure to provide 
minimum appropriations to carry out Federal public lands management 
responsibilities impairs the ability of Interior agencies to fulfill 
trust obligations and places invaluable Tribal resources at risk. We 
urge Congress to provide increased funding for public lands 
conservation programs across the Department of Interior, including the 
NPS, USFS, USFWS, BIA, and BLM.
          promote the health and well-being of indian country
    6. Provide Permanent Advance Appropriations for the Indian Health 
System. We ask for full funding for the IHS on a permanent 2-year 
advance appropriations cycle to fulfill the United States' obligation 
to provide for Indian health. This advance appropriation has occurred 
for FY 2024 but needs to be made permanent. We strongly support the IHS 
Tribal Budget Formulation Workgroup's recommendation for $53.85 billion 
to fully fund the Indian health system budget. It is vital that this 
funding be consistently provided on an advance appropriations basis to 
promote greater stability in services, medical personnel recruitment 
and retention, and facilities management. Indian health should not be 
subject to the uncertainties of the annual budgeting process with its 
risk of continuing resolutions and government shutdowns. Critically, 
advance appropriations would align Federal funding with trust and 
treaty obligations. It would also provide the IHS long overdue parity 
with the Veterans Health Administration. We also urge the Committee to 
expand advance appropriations to the entirety of the four main 
appropriations accounts: services, facilities, contract support costs, 
and payment for Tribal leases.
    7. Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and Section 
105(l) Lease Payments. We appreciate this subcommittee's commitment to 
ensuring that CSC and Section 105(l) lease costs are fully funded by 
including an indefinite discretionary appropriation in past years. We 
ask that Congress build on this important work in FY 2025 by 
designating these accounts as mandatory funding. CSC and Section 105(l) 
lease funds are already an entitlement under the Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act. Changing the appropriation 
of these accounts from discretionary to mandatory would bring Federal 
funding into line with the clear legal requirements of the authorizing 
statute.
    8. $250 Million with Self-Governance Funding Mechanism Option for 
the Special Diabetes Program for Indians (SDPI). Indian Country has 
seen dramatic improvements in the prevention and treatment of diabetes 
and diabetes-related conditions under SDPI. For program stability and 
expansion, we seek an increase in mandatory funding to $250 million 
with automatic annual adjustments for medical inflation. We also ask 
that Congress authorize the use of either a grant (as currently used) 
or Public Law 93-638 funding mechanisms for SDPI participants 
consistent with our Tribal sovereignty.
    9. Increase Funding for Preventive Health Services. Acoma's 
experience with the Acoma-Canoncito-Laguna Hospital crisis and the 
vulnerabilities in the Indian health system revealed by the pandemic 
has taught us the critical value of preventive health. Such services 
are a cost-effective use of resources to reduce future incidence rates 
of chronic illness, acute conditions, and associated medical costs. We 
urge an increase in funding for IHS Preventive Health Services as an 
investment in future Indian health.
          construct safe tribal communities and infrastructure
    10. Support Funding for Indian Water Rights Settlements. The Pueblo 
of Acoma, along with other parties, has negotiated a water rights 
settlement with the United States and the State of New Mexico (Rio San 
Jose Water Settlement) that has just been introduced in the House and 
Senate. We ask that the Congress support full funding for Indian water 
rights and would like to note that the President's FY 2025 budget 
proposal includes funding to ``build on Bipartisan Infrastructure Law 
investments by providing $2.8 billion in additional mandatory funding 
to the Indian Water Rights Settlement Completion Fund, as well as $226 
million in discretionary funding to meet existing settlement 
obligations.''
    11. Not Less Than $90 Million for the BIA Road Maintenance Program. 
Funding for the BIA Road Maintenance program has been chronically below 
the level of demonstrated need. In FY 2021, the BIA received only 
$36.79 million to address a nationwide deferred maintenance backlog of 
almost $300 million-an equivalent to only 12% of documented need. It 
costs our Pueblo alone over $650,000 to maintain the 363.8 miles 
included on the BIA road inventory within our exterior boundaries (a 
further 298.2 miles are not on the inventory). We receive insufficient 
funding to cover these costs and are, thus, forced to use our limited 
Tribal funds to maintain Federal roads. Congress must start to 
alleviate this heavy financial burden by providing not less than $90 
million for BIA Roads Maintenance in FY 2025.
    12. $59 Million for Community Economic Development Projects. We 
seek $59 million in targeted funding to support the development of 
shovel-ready community economic projects that would greatly benefit our 
Tribe and our citizens. Specifically, these are (1) full reconstruction 
of the fifty-year old Haaku Road that has structural failures 
throughout its length, contributing directly to dozens of vehicle 
crashes over the years ($25 million request), and (2) development of 
the Acoma Business Park corridor that is planned to include a business 
incubator, retail and service enterprises, post office, and new housing 
to create jobs and generate revenue ($34 million request).
    13. $40 Million for Mesa Hill Bridge Project under BIA Tribal 
Transportation Account. Acoma is bisected by a major transcontinental 
railway that is level with the existing roadway with minimal safety 
features. The flat terrain, lack of a fixed schedule for freight 
trains, and misjudgments on train speed and distance pose a significant 
public safety risk to motorists and pedestrians. Distressingly, there 
is no way to avoid the danger. Our healthcare and businesses are 
located on the north side of the tracks, while our community service 
facilities-such as Head Start, residential areas, and government 
buildings-are in the south. Our people must face the daily challenge of 
traversing the tracks to bring their children to school or attend 
medical appointments without the safety of an elevated crossing. 
Despite the clear threat to public safety posed by this situation, we 
have faced repeated barriers in accessing the necessary funds to 
construct the Mesa Hill Bridge. We urge Congress to provide $40 million 
in targeted funding under the BIA Tribal Transportation Program to 
construct the Mesa Hill Bridge at Acoma Pueblo.
    14. Increase BIA Irrigation Infrastructure Funding. Congress 
enacted the Pueblo Irrigation Infrastructure Act as Section 9106 of the 
Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009. This
    Act directs the Secretary of the Interior to conduct a study of the 
irrigation infrastructure of the Rio Grande Pueblos, including Acoma. 
It also authorizes funding to address deficiencies identified by that 
study. The implementation of this act will favorably impact Pueblo 
traditional lifestyle and culture, which has been based on agriculture 
and irrigated lands for hundreds of years. We urge Congress to increase 
support for BIA irrigation projects on all New Mexico Pueblos in FY 
2025.
    15. Establish Regional BIE Tele-Education Learning Centers. 
Broadband is an essential service rapidly changing the educational 
landscape in rural communities. Acoma, however, continues to face 
significant challenges in this area stemming, in part, from a woefully 
inadequate municipal infrastructure and limited economic and 
educational resources. Rural education does not and should not mean 
limited opportunities for growth and development. We seek to expand 
Acoma's horizons by connecting Pueblo members with previously unheard-
of access to local tele-educational resources. We ask for targeted 
funding for regional BIE tele-education learning facilities with an 
initial allocation of $15 million to establish the account.
                 protect wildlife and natural resources
    16. Not Less Than $8 Million for the BIA Endangered Species 
Program. The effective management and conservation of our natural 
resources is not limited to the waters, soil, and trees that form the 
rich landscape of Pueblo Country. We must also account and 
appropriately care for the diversity of wildlife that is meaningful to 
our culture and essential to maintaining our ecosystems' equilibrium. 
The BIA Endangered Species Program provides Tribal nations with the 
technical assistance and financial resources to protect endangered 
species on Tribal lands through natural resources restoration and 
management, as well as economic development. We recommend Congress 
provide at least $8 million for the BIA Endangered Species Program.
    17. $48 Million for the Tribal Climate Resilience Program and 
Adequately Fund Cooperative Landscape Conservation Programs. Across 
America, communities are facing mounting challenges related to our 
progressively unstable natural environment. Invasive species, 
disappearing tree lines, and accelerated rates of erosion are also 
taking an increasing toll on our agricultural and natural resources. 
These two Interior programs equip Tribal nations with the tools to 
manage resource stressors, develop adaptive management plans, and 
engage in intergovernmental coordination. We request Congress 
appropriate $48 million for the BIA Tribal Climate Resilience Program 
and restore adequate funding for Department-wide Cooperative Landscape 
Conservation programs.

    [This statement was submitted by Governor Randall Vicente, Pueblo 
of Acoma.]
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            Prepared Statement of Ramah Navajo School Board
    Ramah Navajo School Board, Inc. (RNSB) operates a complex of Head 
Start, Elementary, Junior High and High Schools, as well as the Pine 
Hill Health Center and Behavioral Health and Social Services programs 
on the Ramah Navajo Reservation in New Mexico. In 1970, RNSB, Inc. 
established the Ramah Navajo High School, the first Indian community 
school governed by an all-Indian, locally controlled school board. Our 
efforts were a model for the groundbreaking 1975 Indian Self-
Determination and Educational Assistance Act, PL 93-638 (ISDEAA). In 
1978, we established health services under the ISDEAA. Today, RNSB, 
Inc. provides quality services and programs to address our community's 
needs and uplift their economic conditions.
    RNSB Inc. would like to express deep appreciation to Representative 
Gabe Vasquez for introducing bipartisan legislation to extend Federal 
Employee Retirement System (FERS) benefits to teachers and staff in 
Tribally Controlled Schools (H.R. 5669). We would also like to express 
deep appreciation for the Replacement Facilities Construction funding 
that has been allocated to replace some of our most dilapidated school 
buildings. RNSB, Inc.'s priority budget concerns include line items in 
the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE), Bureau Indian Affairs (BIA), and 
Indian Health Service (IHS) budgets. We also have significant facility 
and infrastructure challenges that must be addressed to be able to 
deliver our programs and services safely and without disruptions.
RNSB, Inc.'s Education priorities for the BIE and BIA budgets are:

  --$950 million for ISEP Formula Funds (BIE) to provide equitable per 
        student funding, and ensure full funding for Teacher Pay Parity 
        (BIE);

  --Ensure that all the employees of BIE-funded schools receive Federal 
        Employees Retirement System (FERS) benefits (BIE);

  --Increases for Student Transportation (BIE) and Road Maintenance for 
        School Bus Routes (BIA);

  --Full and Forward funding for Facilities Operations and Facilities 
        Maintenance (BIE);

  --Significant improvements to Maximo, the Facilities Management 
        System; and

  --Education Construction (BIE).

    RNSB, Inc.'s Health priorities for the IHS budget are:

  --$54 billion for full and mandatory funding for the Indian Health 
        Service;

  --Provide Tribal Communities with supplemental resources to recover 
        from the effects of COVID, protect against the next pandemic, 
        and address the opioid epidemic;

  --Increased support for emergency response capabilities; and

  --Funding for Staff Housing and Administrative Complex Replacement.
                               education
    ISEP Formula Funds is the core BIE account, which funds our 
school's operations, but it is severely underfunded. Underfunding ISEP 
means that RNSB, Inc. does not have the budget to compete with the 
teacher salaries and benefits being offered by public schools here in 
New Mexico, or with any other jurisdiction for that matter. Without 
equitable funding, we will continue to struggle to attract and retain 
quality teachers. Without quality teachers, we cannot offer our 
students a quality education--it is as simple as that. We ask the 
subcommittees to equitably fund ISEP Formula Funds and we ask that the 
subcommittees to continue to hold the BIE accountable for ensuring that 
the amounts requested for teacher and counselor pay parity are 
sufficient to match the increases provided by the Defense Department 
schools and are clearly calculated and identified for each school. 
Further, given the significant salary increases for public school 
teachers in New Mexico, RNSB, Inc. also encourages consideration for 
pay rate increases that would keep pace with either the Defense 
Department schools, or the rate of nearby public schools, whichever of 
these rates is higher.
    Ensuring that all the employees of BIE-funded schools receive 
Federal Employees Retirement System Benefits (FERS) is critical. 
Representative Vasquez's Parity for Tribal Educators Act (H.R. 5669) is 
urgently needed. RNSB, Inc. observes that while Tribally Controlled 
Schools and BIE-operated schools are both part of the BIE-funded school 
system, it only the teachers and staff in BIE-operated schools who are 
eligible to receive FERS benefits. This disparity puts Tribally 
Controlled Schools like ours at a significant disadvantage and has the 
effect of undermining the intent of Congress in the Indian Self-
Determination and Educational Assistance Act and the Tribally 
Controlled Schools Act, Public Law 100-297. As stated in Senate Report 
118-83, accompanying the FY 2024 Consolidated Appropriations Act, ``Any 
policy denying Federal benefits to employees carrying out a Federal 
trust responsibility is incompatible with the Federal policy of self-
determination.''
    Increases for Student Transportation in the BIE Budget and Road 
Maintenance Funding for School Bus Routes in the BIA Budget are of 
particular importance to RNSB, Inc. Our experience is consistent with 
what the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reported in 2017: poor 
road conditions on school bus routes present safety concerns and pose 
obstacles to student attendance. Our school is in a high-elevation high 
desert mountainous region where we receive abundant snowfall in the 
wintertime and when the snow melts the dirt roads become a sea of mud. 
Many of our students travel long distances on unpaved (gravel) and 
unimproved earth roads. A strong rain or snowstorm can render our 
school bus routes impassible and disrupt learning for days. Also, as 
the GAO pointed out, our geographically dispersed locations and poor 
road conditions result in increased transportation costs for fuel, 
additional vehicle maintenance, and the increased bus driver pay 
associated with our rural and isolated routes. RNSB, Inc. is greatly 
concerned by the increased costs for Student Transportation and the 
continued deteriorating conditions of the roads serving our 
communities. Most Tribally Controlled Schools on the Navajo Nation 
exhaust their student transportation funds by February of each school 
year.
    Full and Forward funding for Facilities Operations and Facilities 
Maintenance is long overdue. The amount of funding that is provided for 
our school Facilities Operations and Facilities Maintenance accounts is 
at 51%. Additionally, appropriations for these accounts have been 
funded in bits and pieces via numerous Continuing Resolutions for the 
last several decades. Because these two core operating accounts are not 
forward funded like the rest of our core school operations accounts, we 
constantly have to move money from our forward accounts to cover things 
like our monthly utility bills and our ongoing maintenance needs. The 
funds we do receive are sent to Pine Hill Schools randomly and at 
different intervals throughout the fiscal year. This makes it very 
difficult to operate our school and complete our annual reports.
    Significant improvements to Maximo, the Facilities Management 
System, and are needed. All the schools in the BIE-funded school system 
are expected to upload our facilities management deficiencies into the 
Maximo system. The Maximo system poses a barrier in reporting 
deficiencies and funding for projects needed at the school. The system 
is far more complex than most users are capable of. The awarding of 
funds and the approval process in Maximo also takes far too long. The 
awarding officials at the Indian Affairs Division of Facilities 
Management and Construction (DFMC) do not approve or provide feedback 
in a timely manner and in the meantime, the quotes we receive expire. 
This makes it extremely difficult to find contractors who will work 
with us. We have found that the only way to receive timely responses 
from the DFMC is if we travel to Washington, DC to request meetings 
with Federal officials or if we involve our Congressional delegation in 
the process. Further, the projects we pay for out of our ISEP funds are 
not reimbursed. The Pine Hill Schools have paid for numerous 
deficiencies dating back to 2004 that have never been reimbursed, and 
now we are now hearing that the DFMC is considering limiting 
reimbursements to only 2 years back! Finally, the DFMC now requires 
schools to pay for items under $10,000, when the threshold used to be 
$2,500. We need a computer system that is user-friendly or funds to pay 
the salaries of trained IT personnel to manage Maximo at each school, a 
quick response to our inquiries and requests for funding, to be 
reimbursed for all the projects we have previously paid for with our 
ISEP funds, and we need adequate facilities funding.
    Education Construction. RNSB, Inc. deeply appreciates being 
approved for Replacement Facilities Construction funding to address 
severe deficiencies in many of our school buildings. We are concerned; 
however, about the timing and the scope of this funding. Specifically, 
we operate our various education and health programs with a unified 
administration and support staff housed all in one administration 
building. As part of the planning for the Replacement Facility 
Construction process, were informed that the new administration 
building could only be built large enough to accommodate staff who work 
on Education, not Health. Because these programs share administration 
and support staff, this would create tremendous complications and 
inefficiencies for us.
                                 health
    Full, Mandatory funding for the Indian Health Service. The IHS and 
its Tribal partners under the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act strive to provide Tribal people with access to high 
quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with the Federal 
Government's trust and treaty obligations. Unfortunately, the 
inadequate funding levels appropriated to the IHS year after year have 
translated to average per capita spending on health care several times 
less than average per capita health care spending for the general 
population. This chronic and systemic funding disparity has real, 
detrimental impacts on our communities. Native people are 
disproportionately affected by obesity, diabetes, heart disease, 
cancer, substance-use disorder and other largely preventable 
conditions. RNSB, Inc. therefore urges the subcommittees to work 
towards full funding for the IHS, in line with the IHS Tribal Budget 
Formulation Workgroup's recommendation of $54 billion. Further, this 
funding should be reclassified as mandatory and thus not subject to the 
variability of the yearly appropriations process.
    Supplemental resources to recover from the effects of COVID, 
protect against the next pandemic, and address the opioid epidemic. 
Because of chronic underfunding for public health infrastructure, 
overcrowded and underfunded housing, and a lack of access to the type 
of basic utilities most communities take for granted, our Tribal 
communities were far less equipped to respond to the COVID pandemic. 
This resulted in much higher rates of disease incidence and mortality 
than the general population. We are also similarly ill-equipped to care 
for community members suffering from the effects of long COVID-a little 
understood, but often debilitating aspect of the disease. Another issue 
that the COVID pandemic revealed is the lack of mental health services 
for domestic violence victims and the profound trauma they are 
grappling with. As the pandemic recedes, many people want to simply 
move forward, but we are still mourning lost family members in our 
small, tight-knit community and trying to secure the resources to 
assist children who lost their primary caregivers. We are concerned 
that if another pandemic occurs, none of these things will have 
changed. We are also similarly ill-equipped to address the rapidly 
worsening opioid epidemic--a national problem with devastating local 
impacts. RNSB, Inc. therefore urges significant supplemental funding to 
support impacted families, address long COVID, improve our public 
health infrastructure, address the opioid epidemic, and address the 
multifaceted trauma in our Tribal communities.
    Increased support for emergency response capabilities. The growth 
of the population in our rural emergency response region is increasing 
and we are the only emergency medical service provider in the western 
part of Cibola County. We need to expand our EMS, by building another 
EMS station and helicopter landing pads for faster transport to urban 
trauma centers for life-threatening injuries or illnesses. Disasters 
like the recent train derailment in northwest New Mexico diverted 
Interstate 40 traffic onto rural narrow two-lane roads, making it 
dangerous to travel on with semi-tractor-trailers. There were many 
stories of near missed traffic accidents with semi-trucks. We need to 
be better prepared to respond to these emergencies and have the 
capability to transport patients within the ``Golden Hour'' of 
accessing life-saving health centers.
    Staff Housing. RNSB, Inc. has not provided a separate designated 
housing for its health clinic employees and it now necessary to address 
this need which requires additional funding, due to the remote and 
isolated location of the community it is essential to provide necessary 
staff housing. Pine Hill Clinic employs 90 specialized staff in health 
such as doctors, nurses, pharmacists, psychologists, and dentists and 
assistants, which are from outside the community and require 
appropriate and adequate housing accommodations. In addition, many are 
on rotating schedules for short periods and require available housing.
    Administration Complex Building. While the existing building that 
houses the comprehensive administration services comprising of 
administrative, financial, human resources and health and 
administrative service to provide the essential core functions of the 
RNSB, Inc. operations has been determined to be demolished due to its 
designated useful life and normal wear and tear. A replacement for this 
building for 40 employees is a dire need. A more modern building with 
state-of-the-art technology and appropriate equipment upgrades and 
infrastructures is overdue.
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide appropriations testimony 
about our priorities.

    [This statement was submitted by Ramah Navajo School Board, Inc.]
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     Prepared Statement of the Rappahannock Wildlife Refuge Friends
    I am submitting this testimony as vice president of the 
Rappahannock Wildlife Refuge Friends (RWR Friends), a refuge volunteer 
and a 32-year veteran of the National Wildlife Refuge System. We 
appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year (FY) 
2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate 
$602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    The RWR Friends is a 501c3 non-profit corporation formed in 2004 in 
Warsaw, Virginia dedicated to supporting the Rappahannock River Valley 
NWR and the National Wildlife Refuge System. The RWR Friends is made up 
of people with diverse backgrounds and interests. We build and maintain 
trails, establish and maintain native plant gardens, participate in 
wildlife surveys, fight invasive species, host educational field trips, 
administer hunt programs, and more. What all our members have in common 
is a love of the National Wildlife Refuge System and its mission to 
help protect our environment and, in particular, our wildlife.
    When I think about the Refuge System I am filled with pride, and 
immensely saddened. I am proud that at the dawn of the 20th century, 
our Nation's leaders had the foresight to create what would become 
largest, most diverse assemblage of lands and waters dedicated to fish 
and wildlife conservation anywhere in the world. I am in awe of a 
Refuge System workforce that is among the most resourceful, dedicated, 
and passionate of all in our public service sector. These facts should 
elicit pride in every American.
    What saddens me is to see it diminished and starved for lack of 
adequate congressional funding. Each year over the past ten, we 
witnessed modest increases to the Refuge System budget be completely 
swallowed by fixed salary costs and general inflation. Even before the 
recent spike in inflation resulting from a deadly world-wide pandemic 
and supply chain disruptions, ``normal'' inflation was enough to negate 
modest annual budget increases. The result is a Refuge System that is 
dying a death from a thousand cuts.
    That description is unfortunately not far off. The Refuge System 
has shed 27% of its workforce since 2011, over 600 full time positions. 
As noted by the National Wildlife Refuge Association, ``the 
insufficient funding and capacity impacts are felt System-wide, 
impacting conservation planning, wildlife and habitat management, 
visitor services, law enforcement, and maintenance. No refuges are 
fully staffed, and more than half of refuges have zero staff on site. 
Multiple refuges have been closed to the public and are completely 
unmanaged. Many employees must manage multiple wildlife refuge units, 
sometimes traveling hundreds of miles per day. Many on volunteer 
programs have also been cut back or eliminated due to a lack of 
supervision from professional FTEs or necessary infrastructure.''
    We have seen this play out over the past 10 years at the Eastern 
Virginia Rivers National Wildlife Refuge Complex. The Rappahannock 
River Valley NWR is one of four refuges that comprise this Complex. 
``Complexing'' is mild sounding word strikes fear into refuge staffs. 
It translates into combining what were stand-alone refuges with other 
refuges in the landscape, thereby giving refuge managers and staff more 
responsibility but with fewer resources. Example: Two refuges, each 
with a modest staff are located 100 miles apart. The manager of one 
refuge retires, so to save money, the refuge are combined into a 
``complex,'' with now one manager supervising both. When a position 
becomes vacant, it often remains vacant and the duties are spread among 
other staff. This has been happening for many years and has 
significantly diluted the ability of existing staff to fulfill the 
mission of the Refuge system.
    The Eastern Virginia Rivers NWR Complex has a staff of five 
individuals charged with achieving the Refuge System mission on four 
refuges scattered over hundreds of square miles. This is down from a 
staff of seven 10 years ago, when the Complex was much smaller. In past 
years there was also a student trainee position at the Complex to bring 
fresh ideas and diversity into the ranks. That position has been 
eliminated. That is simply unacceptable and as congressional leaders, 
it should give you pause.
    There is no law enforcement staff stationed at the Eastern Virginia 
Rivers Complex as there had been in the early-mid 2000s. If any 
emergency occurs, the refuge must call upon and rely on local law 
enforcement from the sheriff's departments of the various counties in 
which the refuge units are located. The counties have complained for 
years that refuge revenue sharing payments have significantly 
diminished and are at an all-time low. Localities are receiving less 
than 25% of what the revenue sharing formula calls for, so when the 
refuge asks a county for assistance, it can increase resentment of the 
refuge and the Federal Government as a whole.
    The Rappahannock River Valley refuge has never had a staff person 
dedicated to visitor services, yet it offers the visiting public 
opportunities to engage in all six of the priority uses that Congress 
directed the Refuge System to provide. That is why the RWR Friends have 
spent much of our energy and resources creating and maintaining visitor 
facilities, staffing events on and off the refuge, leading school field 
trips, and organizing special hunts for youth and disabled hunters to 
name a few of our regular activities. This frees staff to work other 
priorities, but the help from Friends and volunteers is not enough. 
More permanent staff are needed, and quickly, to stop the hemorrhaging.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me at joemccauley1955@gmail.com.

    [This statement was submitted by Joseph F. McCauley, Vice-
President, Rappahannock Wildlife Refuge Friends.]
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   Prepared Statement of the Riverside-San Bernardino County Indian 
                              Health, Inc.
    I am Catalina VillaMontes and I am the Treasurer of the Board of 
Directors for the Riverside-San Bernardino County Indian Health, Inc. 
(RSBCIHI), located in Southern California. I am also a member of the 
Pechanga Band of Indians, one of nine consortium Tribes of RSBCIHI and 
I also serve on the California Rural Indian Health Board. I serve in 
all these roles because the health and welfare of my people is my 
highest priority. I am honored to be here and have the opportunity to 
testify today.
                   protecting vital health care funds
    Year after year, you hear from Tribes and Tribal organizations 
asking for more Indian health funding. While we support those pleas, we 
also recognize the need to protect the recurring funding for Indian 
health programs we already rely on to provide services. Unfortunately, 
the many delays of the fiscal year (FY) 2024 appropriations process 
exemplified why the entire IHS budget needs to be moved to mandatory 
appropriations.
    To be clear, we are extremely appreciative that in FY 2023, 
Congress first provided for advance appropriations for the Indian 
Health Service. However, certain accounts were excluded from those 
advanced appropriations, including contract support costs, lease funds, 
and certain facilities funds. The threat and disruption of potential 
shutdowns, sequestrations and continuing resolutions continue to loom 
over our operations despite advanced appropriations. The only way to 
ensure that Indian health programs are held harmless, like other 
Federal health programs, is to move the IHS budget to the mandatory 
side. This is necessary to uphold the Federal obligation for Indian 
health care and to provide funding stability for Tribal health 
programs.
    We also ask that Congress realize that inflation, especially in the 
medical sector, has decreased our buying power and means these 
continuing funds do not go as far as they historically have. Post 
pandemic provider salaries, medication costs, and nearly every 
component of our programs have increased. While in fiscal year 2023, 
the Administration's projection to fully fund the Indian Health Service 
required only $36.7 billion, only 1 year later, that number rose to $54 
billion. Yet, the total agency appropriation remains less than $10 
billion. We continue to support the Budget's push towards full funding 
for the IHS and at the least meaningful increases to allow our programs 
to keep up with historically high inflation.
                 purchased/referred care (prc) funding
    The California Area does not receive equitable funding. Our State 
is one of four Indian Health Service Areas that are designated ``PRC 
dependent,'' meaning we have little or no access to an IHS or tribally-
operated hospital and therefore must purchase all or a large portion of 
inpatient and specialty care from non-Tribal providers at a 
significantly higher cost. As we've shared previously, our current PRC 
funding is insufficient to meet the need for specialty and advanced 
care. Every year our PRC funding is depleted before the end of the 
fiscal year. Due to the large carryover in PRC funds from federally-
operated service units, however, we have not seen a meaningful increase 
in PRC funds since 2018. As a result, our patients must forego the 
higher level care they need unless they have non-IHS resources to cover 
the costs. We ask this Committee to provide additional PRC funding for 
Tribal programs or to require redistribution of the large agency 
carryover balances so that funds can go where they are actually needed. 
We also ask the Committee to support funding for Regional Specialty 
Care Centers, especially in California, that will provide a Tribal 
facility we can refer patients to and alleviate pressure on our PRC 
budget.
    We note that when new funding comes in or a change in distribution 
formula is discussed, the California Area is routinely out voted by 
other Areas. As a result, we have little recourse to correct these 
inequities without Congressional funds directing them to the areas that 
need them most.
                  funding for tribal ehr modernization
    We know that IHS has continued to ask for large budget outlays for 
its health information modernization project and that the agency 
intends to move to replace its antiquated system with a new Oracle 
system. However, our programs could no longer wait for IHS to decide to 
modernize; over 6 years ago, we purchased our own modern electronic 
health record (EHR) system that was necessary for us to meet our 
patient needs. However, using this different EHR technology impacts our 
ability to submit data to the Federal data warehouse and the 
incompatibility between our system and IHS's system impacts patient 
data that may feed into funding formulas. We ask that Congress provide 
funding to improve systems integration with new IHS EHR technology, and 
ongoing maintenance costs required to enhance data accuracy.
                  fully funding contract support costs
    Contract support costs, which cover our necessary overhead and 
administrative costs, are necessary to sustain our operations and 
ensure that our program funds can be dedicated to services. However, 
ever since Congress mandated full funding of contract support costs in 
2014, IHS has devised different ways to attempt to limit or reduce 
these reimbursements. Therefore, we support the enactment of H.R. 409 
sponsored by Representative Tom Cole, which will maintain the status 
quo on these calculations, and protect against IHS reducing them by 
over 90% as it tried to do to a Tribal contractor on the Navajo Nation 
in 2022 and 2023. We also ask the Committee to order IHS to eliminate 
its ``reconciliation process,'' which permits IHS to come back years 
after our books are closed to request funds back for a prior fiscal 
year, many of which
    have already been spent. Our indirect cost rate-setting process 
already accounts for over or under recoveries in any given fiscal year 
and this repetitive agency reconciliation process only distorts this 
process further.
    We thank you for your time and consideration of our requests.

    [This statement was submitted by Catalina VillaMontes, Treasurer, 
Board of Directors for the Riverside-San Bernardino County Indian 
Health, Inc.]
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   Prepared Statement of Sage Memorial Hospital on the Navajo Nation
                            recommendations
    1. Provide full, mandatory funding for the Indian Health Service 
(IHS).

    2. Reduce dependence on competitive grants for Indian Country.

    3. Exempt the IHS from rescissions and sequestrations.

    4. Ensure mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs and section 
105(l) lease payments.

    5. Restore critical infrastructure investments for the Indian 
health system.

    6. Address Staffing Shortages through Full Funding and Enactment of 
S.3022.

    7. Increase funding and extend self-governance to the Special 
Diabetes Program for Indians.

    8. Increase funding for behavioral and mental health programs.

    Introduction: Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murowski, 
and Members of the subcommittee for the opportunity to share our 
funding priorities for the FY 2025 Federal budget. My name is Melinda 
White, and I serve as the CEO of the Sage Memorial Hospital on the 
Navajo Nation. The hospital campus included a Critical Access Hospital 
and outpatient clinic. We also operate a separate outpatient clinic 
located 28 miles away in Greasewood Springs, Arizona.
    We are the first Native-managed private comprehensive health care 
system in the country and have been managed since 1978 by an 
independent, entirely Navajo Board of Directors. Sage Memorial Hospital 
is the only Native American hospital to hold both a license from the 
Arizona Department of Health Services and Accreditation from The Joint 
Commission. Today, we are the sole provider of healthcare services for 
a community of approximately 23,000. We prioritize integration of 
Native culture with western medicine to provide quality health care to 
the residents in the Ganado, Kinlichee, Klagetoh, Wide Ruins, Lower 
Greasewood Springs, Cornfields, Nazlini, and Steamboat chapters of the 
Navajo Nation.
    We are grateful for the historic investments Congress has made in 
the Indian health system in recent years via the CARES Act, American 
Rescue Plan Act, and Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. The direct funding 
model and successful implementation of these laws prove that when 
Tribal sovereignty is honored, Tribal communities thrive. We would also 
like to thank this subcommittee for its bipartisan effort to protect 
the IHS from cuts during the 2024 appropriations process. Furthermore, 
we urge you to remember that Congress' trust and treaty responsibility 
to provide for the health and wellbeing of Tribal Nations exists 
irrespective of any self-imposed budgetary caps. It is imperative that 
this subcommittee appropriate the full amounts necessary to fulfill its 
obligations. To that end, I offer the following recommendations for 
your consideration for FY 2025 appropriations for the IHS.
    Provide Full Funding for the Indian Health Service: The IHS and its 
Tribal partners under the Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act strive to provide Tribal people with access to high 
quality and comprehensive medical services, in line with the Federal 
Government's trust and treaty obligations. However, chronic 
underfunding of the Indian health system has had detrimental impacts on 
our communities. American Indians and Alaska Natives are 
disproportionately affected by obesity, diabetes, heart disease, 
cancer, substance-use disorder and other largely preventable 
conditions. We therefore urge the subcommittee to work towards full and 
mandatory funding for the IHS, in line with the IHS Tribal Budget 
Formulation Workgroup.
    The Workgroup has calculated it will take $54 billion to fully-fund 
the IHS. We understand that this represents a dramatic increase in 
funding; however, it is essential that Congress address the true needs 
of the Indian health system. We support their full request and 
reiterate the following four priorities for program expansion as 
follows:

    1) Hospitals and Health Clinics: $13.6 billion

    2) Mental Health: $4.5 billion

    3) Alcohol & Substance Abuse: $4.9 billion

    4) Dental Services: $3.2 billion

    Continued Support for Advance Appropriations for IHS: If full, 
mandatory appropriations cannot be achieved for FY 2025, we continue to 
support advance appropriations for the IHS in the short-term. This 
year's tumultuous appropriations cycle clearly demonstrates why advance 
appropriations are critical-IHS clinical services remained continuous 
throughout the volatile political process. We urge the subcommittee to 
extend advance appropriations to all IHS accounts, including Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction for FY 2026.
    Reduce Dependence on Federal Grants: We also support moving away 
from competitive grants for Federal funding mechanisms. Grants unfairly 
pit Tribes against each other for resources we are all entitled to. The 
Federal trust responsibility does not require that we jump through a 
myriad of hoops and onerous applications to see that services are 
provided to our citizens. Too often, Tribes are under-resourced to 
apply for Federal grants and comply with their reporting requirements. 
Our staff must divert time to apply and report, thereby diluting the 
usefulness of the resources. Instead, we request wide-spread, formula-
based funding across all programs. Tribes must also be granted the 
flexibility needed to respond to the specific needs of their own 
communities, not those prescribed by Federal grants. This also means 
appropriating enough resources so funds are provided in meaningful 
amounts across all Tribes. We join other Tribal leaders in calling for 
broad based funding for Indian Country.
    Permanently Exempt the IHS from Cuts, Sequestrations, and 
Rescissions: As demonstrated above, the Indian health system is 
chronically underfunded, with current appropriations sitting around 
one-seventh of need. Nevertheless, Congress routinely threatens and 
enacts additional budget cuts, sequestrations, and rescissions 
affecting the IHS. As recently as FY 2024, this Congress rescinded $350 
million marked for public health infrastructure from the IHS. 
Furthermore, the IHS is the only federally funded services providing 
direct patient care not exempt from sequestration.
    We remind this subcommittee again that its trust and treaty 
obligations to Tribes exist regardless of any self-imposed budget 
control measures. In fact, the IHS budget remains so small in 
comparison to the National budget that cuts, rescissions, and 
sequestrations do not result in any meaningful savings in the National 
debt, but they do devastate Tribal Nations and their citizens. We urge 
Congress to ensure that any budget cuts, whether automatic or explicit, 
hold IHS and our people harmless.
    Fully fund critical infrastructure investments: We were 
disappointed to see that this subcommittee approved cuts to Electronic 
Health Records Modernization, Health Care Facilities Construction, and 
Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 2024. The Indian health 
system's infrastructure is among the oldest and most dilapidated in the 
country. Therefore, we request that this subcommittee restore and 
fully-fund these accounts. To implement an interoperable Electronic 
Health Records and telehealth system, $801 million is needed for FY 
2025. As you are aware, this investment is especially critical as the 
Veterans' Administration and Department of Defense move to modernize 
their systems.
    It is also critical that Congress make significant investments in 
Health Care Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities 
Construction. IHS and Tribal facilities are severely outdated, and we 
appreciate Congress' investment in IHS sanitation facilities through 
the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. Yet, with a multi-billion-dollar 
backlog and growing inflation, funding to close out the list is not 
keeping pace with need. This creates situations where facilities are 
unfit and unsafe. Therefore, consistent with the Workgroup's request, 
we recommend $2.8 billion for Health Care Facilities Construction and 
Equipment and $2.2 billion for Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 
2025.
    Address Staffing Shortages. The Indian health system is chronically 
understaffed due to a variety of challenges including underfunding and 
rural location. We face difficulties recruiting and retaining critical 
staff, including nurses, because we must compete with the larger non-
Tribal health systems nearby. We reiterate our request that this 
subcommittee fully fund the IHS at $54 billion, with $13.6 billion 
going to Hospitals and Health Clinics, to ensure Tribal health programs 
have the funding to offer competitive salaries and benefits. We also 
urge this subcommittee to direct resources to staff housing. Finally, 
we fully support S.3022, as reported by the Senate Committee on Indian 
Affairs, to permit IHS loan repayment and scholarship recipients to 
satisfy service obligations through half-time clinical work for a 
doubled amount of service time. This puts the IHS at parity with 
similar loan repayment programs through the Health Resources and 
Services Administration, which can be cumbersome and difficult to 
obtain.
    Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) lease 
payments: We appreciate the subcommittee's commitment to ensuring that 
Contract Support Costs (CSC) and section 105(l) lease payments are 
fully funded. However, these line items continue to take up a larger 
and larger percentage of the IHS discretionary budget, thereby leaving 
little room to expand other services given tight budget environment. We 
strongly agree with the subcommittee's words in the explanatory 
statement for the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public 
Law 116-94) regarding 105(l) costs which said, in part: ``Obligations 
of this nature are typically addressed through mandatory spending, but 
in this case since they fall under discretionary spending, they are 
impacting all other programs funded under the Interior and Environment 
Appropriations bill, including other equally important Tribal 
programs.''
    Therefore, we ask you to continue to advocate with your colleagues 
on authorizing committees to enact mandatory appropriations for CSC and 
105(l) lease costs. Doing so will ensure that other areas of the IHS 
budget are held harmless by these costs and true increases in critical 
services line items can move forward. This will enhance care for Tribal 
patients and reduce health disparities.
    Extend Self-Governance Funding Options to the Special Diabetes 
Program for Indians (SDPI) and increase funding to $250 million/year: 
While we understand that SDPI is not under the jurisdiction of the 
subcommittee, we appreciate that Congress included a short-term 
extension of SDPI in FY 2024 appropriations at a $160 million 
annualized rate. We recognize that this is the first increase for SDPI 
in two decades. Communities like ours across Indian Country rely on 
SDPI resources to address the alarming rates of diabetes and diabetes-
related health complications among our people. SDPI's success rests in 
the flexibility of its program structure that allows for the 
incorporation of culture and local needs into its services. Consistent 
with this model, Congress should authorize SDPI participants the option 
of receiving their Federal funds through either a grant (as currently 
used) or self-governance funding mechanisms under the Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act.
    Additionally, SDPI has not had a meaningful increase in funding 
since FY 2004 despite its overwhelming success. Short term 
reauthorizations continue to destabilize this program and make staffing 
and program continuity difficult. For this reason, we recommend 
permanent reauthorization for SDPI at a minimum base of $250 million 
per year with annual adjustments for inflationary increases. We urge 
you to work with your Congressional colleagues to enact this important 
priority.
    Behavioral Health: Our Tribe, like all of Indian Country, has been 
devastated by the ongoing fentanyl and opioid epidemic. Nevertheless, 
funds for these services are extremely limited. For example, in FY 
2024, Congress only appropriated $2 million to fund essential 
detoxification related services. That's less than $1 per IHS patient. 
We urge the subcommittee to dedicate resources to detoxification and 
reemphasize the importance of fully-funding the following accounts: 
Health Care Facilities Construction, Alcohol & Substance Use, and 
Mental Health. We also fully support the President's Domestic 
Supplemental Request, which includes a $250 million investment in the 
IHS to address the fentanyl and opioid epidemic. Recognizing that 
Indian Country cannot wait any longer, Congress should consider this 
request as soon as possible.

    [This statement was submitted by Melinda White, Chief Executive 
Officer, Sage Memorial Hospital.]
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  Prepared Statement of the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians
    The Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians is in the Upper 
Peninsula of Michigan. The Tribe administers 23 governmental divisions 
and manages over 75 federal, State, local and tribally funded programs 
across our seven-county service area-Alger, Chippewa, Delta, Luce, 
Mackinac, Marquette and Schoolcraft counties. We have a Tribal 
membership of approximately 50,000. Our territory includes 2,800 acres 
of trust land and our ceded territories throughout Michigan where we 
exercise our Treaty reserved rights to fish, hunt and gather. For 
almost fifty years the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe has built its 
governmental capacity to provide the full range of services to its 
members including health care, education, elder services, law 
enforcement, housing, family and social services, and cultural 
programs.
    The Tribe operates 8 health clinics across our seven-county service 
area. In these clinics we offer a wide range of services including 
medical, dental, behavioral health, special diabetes, nutrition, 
pharmacy, wellness programs, and traditional medicine. We are proud of 
our work in this space, but it is time to fully fund Indian Health 
Services.
    The Tribe wants to express its deep appreciation for the Congress's 
action in providing advanced appropriations for FY 2025 for the Indian 
Health Service. Given the very uncertain fiscal times facing our 
Nation, the security in knowing that the base budget of our Indian 
health system is secure critical. This allows our programs and our 
staff to plan on how best to continue to meet the health care needs of 
our people.
                         indian health service
                  substance abuse and mental treatment
    One of the greatest threats to the future of Tribal communities is 
substance abuse and mental health conditions. Since the Heroin/Opioid 
Public Health Emergency of 2018 illicit drug use and mental health 
illnesses have only escalated to a National Emergency, particularly in 
Indian Country. With Health Care Staff Shortages, long waiting lists 
and patients in crisis, the need for Mental Health and Addiction 
Treatment Services is overwhelming. It is clear that funding and staff 
shortages continue to be primary barriers to services.
    According to 2021 National survey on Drug Use and Health, ``nearly 
half of young adults aged 18--25 in 2021 had either Any Mental Illness 
(AMI) or a Substance Use Disorder (SUD) in the past year''. American 
Indian or Alaskan Native were 11.4% higher than all other 
nationalities, (at 34.2 percent) to have had either an AMI or an SUD in 
that same time period. Illicit Drugs are the number one drug of choice 
for adults aged 18+ by Mental Health Status. Adolescents aged 12-17 who 
had both a past year Major Depressive Disorder (MDE) and a past year 
SUD (i.e., drug use disorder, alcohol use disorder, or both) were 
classified as having co-occurring MDE and SUD, greatly increasing 
instances of SMI, SUD, Overdose, and Suicide among American Indian 
communities. However, as these rates continue to climb, the access to 
necessary hospital treatments to combat the Mental and Opioid Epidemic 
Crisis continues to be non-existent. Key programs offered by IHS, 
SAMHSA, DOI, and partnering agencies provide limited respite to 
exhausted communities and health staff.
    While the Department of the Interior (Bureau of Indian Affairs), 
Department of Health and Human Services, and the Department of Justice 
have been tasked with coordinating certain existing department programs 
pursuant to the Tribal Law and Order Act. However, funding to expand 
and implement successful prevention, treatment, after care programming 
is stagnant.
    The current interagency agreement calls for the development of a 
Tribal Action Plan. However, funding is limited to SAMHSA's available 
competitive funding instruments, leaving out necessary full funding of 
Tribal Action Plans that have been adopted by Tribes. Notwithstanding 
the lack of funding for the Tribal Action Plans, the Sault Ste. Marie 
Tribe of Chippewa Indians was one of the first Tribes in the Nation to 
have completed a Tribal Action Plan to combat substance abuse on 
reservations. The Tribe now needs the resources to implement this Plan. 
We would call on the Committee to provide additional funding to both 
the BIA and IHS to fund the implementation of Tribal Action Plans.
                         sanitation facilities
    Health Care facilities and sanitation program continue to be 
underfunded, given the vast need of facility space and staffing needed 
to take care of the overwhelmed health care systems in Indian Country. 
Alaskan villages are still living in third world standards when it 
comes to access to clean water. New facilities in Indian Country, 
require additional utility infrastructure from communications cabling 
to large wells and sewage systems. Residential scale water and sewage 
programming is underfunded, leaving many American Indians without 
necessary clean water sources. This was a key factor for why the 
pandemic was so devastating to Tribal communities across America.
                        bureau of indian affairs
                   tribal natural resources division
    The Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians are co-managers of a 
large part of lakes Michigan, Huron, and Superior, as we hold Treaty-
protected rights to fish in these lakes under the 1836 Treaty. We also 
hold Treaty-protected rights to fish in inland lakes, hunt, and gather 
across the 13.8 million acres of Ceded Territory. Thus, it is critical 
that Congress provide full funding for the Chippewa Ottawa Resource 
Authority to ensure proper management of the resources consistent with 
the court-approved consent decrees.
    The BIA's Natural Resources Management Endangered Species program 
is an important program, vital to the maintenance of important 
threatened and endangered species. Since 2012, Sault Ste. Marie Tribe 
of Chippewa Indians has identified several endangered species needs and 
submitted funding requests. To date, however, our funding requests have 
not been granted. This is due to the competitive nature of limited 
funds available to the Midwest region. My Tribe recommends full funding 
for the program.
    The Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians has relied on the 
BIA Forestry Program for several planning and management of forestry 
projects on the Reservation and are working with the BIA Fire Program. 
While my Tribe does not have substitutive commercial forest resources, 
we do have over 2,000 acres of forest lands that are maintained, and 
are actively acquiring more forest lands to be held in trust. The 
management of, and restoration of prescribed fire on, these acres are 
dependent on the Forestry and Fire Program funds and the BIA staff that 
work on our behalf. We have a strong interest in increasing our 
capacity for forest and fire management. We see this as an opportunity 
for the Tribe to create new jobs for Tribal members and increase access 
to natural resources for subsistence harvesting. We strongly recommend 
full funding of the BIA Forestry and Fire Programs.
                         tribal court programs
    Our Tribal Court program, an integral component to our Tribe's 
sovereignty, is significantly underfunded. In fact, the Federal 
Government provides only 3.76% of base need funding necessary to 
operate a Tribal Court capable of meeting our Tribe's service 
population needs. Federal base funding for our Tribal Court program has 
only increased a total of $3,000 in the past 21 years. In the end, our 
Tribe provides additional funding necessary to meet the needs of basic 
needs of our government, but that money is taken from other 
governmental programs, such as health, education, and care for the 
elderly.
    Even with this strong Tribal support for our program, our courts 
are still lacking. Our most recent BIA assessment of our courts 
identified the need to upgrade the Court's technology and improve the 
Tribal Court building's security. We recommend Congress fully fund 
Tribal Courts base funding levels to meet the budget model provided by 
the BIA.
                       fish and wildlife service
    The Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians has prioritized the 
resilience of coastal ecosystems throughout the 1836 Treaty Ceded 
Territory, with special emphasis on coastal wetlands along the St. 
Mary's River. We have relied on partnerships with, and funding from, 
the Fish and Wildlife Service to plan and implement stewardship of our 
coastal communities. We recommend increased funding for the Fish and 
Wildlife Service Coastal Program to provide more science support for 
our Tribe's coastal resilience work, with more scientists located in 
our communities and positioned to contribute to research in these 
unique ecosystems directly. We support full funding of the Wildlife Co-
Op Unit as it provides valuable science support within the 1836 Treaty 
Ceded Territory.
    The Sault Ste. Marie Tribe applauds the USDOI efforts to increase 
staff and funding in the Great Lakes Basin and looks forward to 
increased emphasis on engaging our Tribal communities in the 
implementation of Joint Secretariat Order 3403. We have felt the 
increased presence of Tribal liaisons in our region and have 
appreciated their contributions to advancing meaningful engagement of 
Tribes in advancing treaty rights. We support increased engagement in 
the co-stewardship and co-management of Federal lands; however, this 
cannot come at the cost of our already underfunded programs. Lastly, we 
would like to see new funding tools aimed at providing adequate support 
for Tribal fish, wildlife, forestry, and fire programs to fully engage 
in co-management and co-stewardship processes.

    [This statement was submitted by Mr. Austin Lowes, Chairman, Sault 
Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians.]
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        Prepared Statement of San Francisco Bay Wildlife Society
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of the San Francisco 
Bay Wildlife Society, a nonprofit Friends Group formed in 1987, with a 
formal agreement with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service 
(USFWS) to support the San Francisco Bay National Wildlife Refuge 
Complex in California. We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments 
on the fiscal year (FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We 
respectfully request Congress to allocate at least $602.3 million in 
funding for the National Wildlife Refuge System Operations and 
Maintenance account for the United States Fish and Wildlife Service.
    Our Friends group works at the heart of the San Francisco Bay, 
bringing children, families, college students, and a diversity of other 
groups out to learn about the abundantly diverse ecosystem in the 
middle of where they live their busy lives. It can be surprising to 
learn that such a densely populated place as the San Francisco Bay 
metropolitan region has large areas of preserved habitat (about 45,000 
acres) on the National Wildlife Refuges, important for the survival of 
millions of local and migrating birds, marine life, and other wildlife.
    Our organization is one of many that are pulling together to try to 
address the looming environmental crises threatening the San Francisco 
Bay area. The water and land that edge the bay are a thriving tidal 
habitat, with great potential to be naturally adapted to resist the 
impacts of flooding along the shoreline through appropriate restoration 
techniques. Restored marshlands and sloping levees can absorb and 
cushion the impacts of high water. Marsh habitat is also very effective 
at carbon sequestration as well. This restoration is a primary effort 
of our USFWS biologists, in their work to preserve habitat for 
endangered and threatened species.
    We know that there are many, many highly intelligent and aware 
people around us who support the preservation of nature, and who have 
the potential to be globally influential with the decisions they make 
in the tech industries and other important businesses around us. Our 
work is to help them become more aware, yet when they see the current 
state of our sites with invasive plants and decaying infrastructure--
all I can say is it is not inspiring. What is inspiring is when we get 
them out to help and facilitate them being part of the solution. They 
love that. This is what you support for people and wildlife refuges, 
and the future of life on Earth. But without funding to be able to work 
cooperatively under the supervision of USFWS staff, we cannot operate 
as effectively, because there is such a staff shortage that they are 
unable to accommodate the extra staff and volunteers we could bring to 
them. We need your help to turn around the dire state of affairs in the 
Refuge System.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere 62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, mandatory staff COLA raises, 
annual fixed costs, and increased needs of the Refuge System since 
FY2010, the Refuge System budget has effectively decreased 
significantly. It is also funded at a lower level than any other 
Federal public lands.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt System-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    Our own staff gives public programs at our refuge, and we have 
experienced firsthand, on a day-to-day basis, the effects of this 
severe underfunding. We see the staff and operations shortfalls 
resulting in loss of institutional knowledge, loss of infrastructure 
due to neglect, people with talent and skills doing the tasks that must 
be done at all levels beyond their focus areas and not able to do their 
own essential work, all in a time when the world is losing biodiversity 
at an alarming rate. We know we already have this great institution 
that can best address the problem of species loss and ecosystem 
imbalances, but the remaining staff is in danger of losing morale, and 
we are losing good people who could be our best hope at providing for 
the future of the diversity of life on earth.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitors that 
rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Currently, the 
Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations to 
effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities for 
wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. The 
President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
me, Mary Deschene, and I can put you in touch with others at San 
Francisco Bay Wildlife Society, at: mary.deschene@sfbayws.org, or 505-
417-2561.

    [This statement was submitted by San Francisco Bay Wildlife 
Society.]
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                Prepared Statement of Sealaska Heritage
    On behalf of the Sealaska Heritage Institute we respectfully 
request that the fiscal year 2025 appropriations bills include 
implementation funding for the Safeguard Tribal Objects of Patrimony 
(STOP) Act. The STOP Act marks a significant advancement in efforts to 
protect Tribal cultural heritage from illegal trafficking and sale. 
However, the successful implementation of this act hinges on the 
availability of adequate resources. Adequate funding will enable the 
Department of the Interior and associated agencies to:

  --Conduct comprehensive training for enforcement personnel.

  --Establish and maintain a robust database for monitoring and 
        protecting cultural items.

  --Facilitate effective repatriation processes and support voluntary 
        return initiatives.

  --Enhance interagency collaborations essential for the STOP Act's 
        success.

    Thank you for considering our important request to include 
implementation funding for the STOP Act in the fiscal year 2025 
appropriations bills. We look forward to your positive response and are 
available to discuss this matter further at your convenience.

Sincerely,


    [This statement was submitted by Rosita Kaahaani Worl, Ph.D. 
President.]
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         Prepared Statement of the Seattle Indian Health Board
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the Senate 
Committee on Appropriations--Subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and 
Related Agencies, my name is Esther Lucero. I am Dine, of Latino 
descent, the third generation in my family to be living outside of our 
reservation, and I strongly identify as an urban Indian. I serve as the 
President & Chief Executive Officer of the Seattle Indian Health Board 
(SIHB), one of 41 Indian Health Service (IHS) designated urban Indian 
organizations (UIO) nationwide designed to serve the health needs of 
the 76% of American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/AN) people residing in 
urban areas. I am also a delegate to the Washington state American 
Indian Health Commission, a member of the King County Board of Health, 
the City of Seattle Indigenous Advisory Council, and the AstraZeneca 
Health Equity Advisory Council. I have had the privilege of serving 
SIHB for 8 years, during which time I have increased the organization's 
operating budget by $36 million. It is transformative to have provided 
testimony to this subcommittee for the past 5 years. I am honored to 
have the opportunity to submit my testimony today, including a request 
of an increase to $977.4 million to the Urban Indian Health line item, 
which continue our momentum to address the chronic underfunding of the 
Indian healthcare system.
                    secure mandatory funding for ihs
    I am thankful to the members of this subcommittee for your 
leadership to secure advance appropriations for IHS for FY 24-25. This 
historic passage has brought greater certainty, parity, and protections 
to the Indian healthcare system and protected us from the looming fear 
of government shutdowns. I implore you to work with the same urgency to 
secure mandatory funding for the IHS. Mandatory funding will lead to 
greater financial sustainability, long range planning, secured service 
delivery, and frankly, will advance the efforts toward fulfilling the 
fiduciary obligation and trust responsibility.
    In the past year, SIHB has advanced the operation of 3 clinical 
expansion projects, restructured and adapted our workforce to meet 
growing needs, and expanded critical culturally attuned health care 
services. To address the growing opioid and fentanyl crisis, we will 
re-open Thunderbird Treatment Center (TTC), our 92-bed in-patient 
residential treatment program, in February 2025. At TTC, we will 
dedicate 15 beds to serve pregnant and parenting people, where each 
person will be able to bring 2 children with them (up to the age of 5). 
This effort will help us save our next generations from being removed 
from their homes and allow families to heal from addiction together.
    SIHB has expanded to 29 different workforce development programs. 
While others in the community health center world were struggling to 
hire Medical Assistants, we started a Medical Assistant Registered 
program designed to train on the job (fully paid) and acquire clinical 
experiences necessary to pursue advanced careers in health care. The 
program was so successful it had a wait list, helping us address a 
critical gap in support services. Last year we had 6 participants in 
the program go on to medical school, nurse practitioner school, and 
nursing school. We cannot limit our vision to the current 
appropriations cycles and must actively seek mandatory funding for IHS.
        uios impacted by covid-19 supplemental funding recission
    I am frustrated by IHS' inability to effectively obligate and 
distribute $419 million in supplemental funding for the Indian 
healthcare system to continue combatting and alleviating the impacts of 
COVID-19. I am particularly disappointed in the failure to invest these 
resources in the establishment, expansion, and sustainment of a public 
health workforce at a time when it is so critical to our community's 
well-being. Throughout much of the pandemic, AI/AN communities faced 
the highest mortality rates among all racial and ethnic groups;\1\ and 
even as recently as summer 2023, we saw an uptick in deaths in AI/AN 
communities.\2\ SIHB has been resourceful and our relatives (patients) 
of all ages and the community have low barrier access to COVID-19 
vaccinations, booster vaccines, and testing at our clinics. Our Tribal 
Epidemiology Center (TEC), the Urban Indian Health Institute (UIHI), 
has sent out COVID-19 support packages to UIOs nationwide. This $419 
million shows that the large-scale investments are achievable, but this 
funding was rescinded before it could reach our most impacted 
communities.
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    \1\ Sabo, S., and Johnson, S., Males and the Hispanic, American 
Indian and Alaska Native Populations Experienced Disproportionate 
Increases in Death During the Pandemic. United States Census. (2023). 
Retrieved from: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/06/covid-
19-impacts-on-mortality-by-race-ethnicity-and-sex.html
    \2\ APM Research Lab. (2023). The Color of Coronavirus: COVID-19 
Deaths by Race and Ethnicity in the U.S. Retrieved from: https://
www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race
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 advance legislation and appropriations to expand workforce development
    To address the longstanding and worsening workforce gaps in the 
Indian healthcare system, I urge the subcommittee to introduce a 
companion bill for S. 3022--the IHS Workforce Parity Act of 2023, which 
would authorize IHS scholarship and loan recipients to meet their 
service obligations through half-time clinical practice. It would help 
AI/AN students enter the healthcare workforce, which remains 
financially inaccessible for many. I further ask that you work to amend 
the IHS Loan Repayment Program to increase administrative FTE 
allocation from .2 to .3 administrative time, to support leadership 
development and training opportunities.
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    \3\ Veteran Affairs Department. (2020). Authority of VA 
Professionals to Practice Health Care. Federal Register. Retrieved 
from: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/12/2020-24817/
authority-of-va-professionals-to-practice-health-care
    \4\ Trost, S., Beauregard, J., Chandra, G., Njie, F., Harvey, A., 
Berry, J., and Goodman, D. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 
(2022). Pregnancy Related Deaths Among American Indian and Alaska 
Native Persons: Data from Maternal Mortality Review Committees in 36 
States from 2017-2019. Retrieved from: https://www.cdc.gov/
reproductivehealth/maternal-mortality/erase-mm/data-mmrc-aian.html
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    Further, I request new investments in community-based and 
culturally attuned workforce training programs and the expansion of 
paid workforce development opportunities for AI/AN students across the 
healthcare and public health sectors. SIHB was the first UIO to 
establish a family medicine residency program and now operates 29 
different workforce development programs to develop the next generation 
of Native and Native serving healthcare and public health 
professionals. For 30 years, SIHB has offered one-on-one time with 
providers, dedicated training space, mentorship opportunities and a 
fully integrated cultural experience. Each year, we invest at least 
$500,000 in our medical residency program, while our residency partner 
only invests 50% of our residency site director's salary. Our other 
limited funding sources cover our internship and fellowship programs. 
For the first time in 2022, we received new funding worth $161,000 from 
a private partner, which still does not cover total program costs. 
Additionally, we began our MSW practicum program 6 years ago and today 
all our mental health providers are Native. We have a lot of pride in 
that outcome.
    Congress must authorize IHS to have cross-state credentialing, 
which would allow for the preemption of state requirements for health 
care professionals to deliver services in a State other than the health 
care professional's state of licensure, registration, certification, or 
other state requirement. This best practice modeled by Veterans Health 
Administration, was critical to ensuring veterans' health care needs 
were met throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.\5\ This administrative 
solution would increase access to and portability of mental health and 
substance use disorder (SUD) professionals across the Indian healthcare 
system.
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    \5\ Indian Health Service. (2020). Special Diabetes Program for 
Indians 2020 Report to Congress: Changing the Course of Diabetes: 
Charting Remarkable Progress. Retrieved from: https://
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK571291/
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    invest in behavioral health workforce, infrastructure, and care
    Despite leveraging many funding streams, we face a $3 million 
funding shortfall that is threatening a timely opening of TTC. We look 
to our Congressional partners to ensure that all Indian behavioral 
health care providers have access to increased reimbursement rates, 
capital and operating investments, and a quality workforce. As we plan 
for our long-term services, we are among the providers nationwide 
calling for Federal investments to cover the true costs of behavioral 
healthcare.
    National Maternal Mortality Review Committee data has shown that 
mental health conditions, including deaths by suicide and overdose/
poisoning related to SUD, was the leading underlying cause of pregnancy 
related death among AI/AN people in 36 States from 2017-2019.4 We fear 
that the fentanyl crisis will only further deepen the inequitable 
maternal and infant health outcomes AI/AN parents face. Therefore, TTC 
will offer specialty services for pregnant and parenting adults, 
integrated Traditional Health Services, and medication-assisted 
treatment (MAT), while providing wrap around care through our clinic 
services. Within our clinic, we secured $2 million, from HRSA, for our 
Indigenous birthing sovereignty project that considers the impact of 
SUD. It is necessary to ensure innovative and culturally attuned 
behavioral health models are developed to create meaningful and lasting 
change for the health and well-being of our people.
            support traditional health services innovations
    The IHS is working with Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services 
(CMS) on a Medicaid traditional health care practices framework, and we 
request Congressional support for the inclusion of UIOs and 
reimbursement of traditional pharmaceuticals. CMS is following 
reimbursement guidelines under title XIX of the Social Security Act 
that allows for Federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP) of 100 
percent to IHS and Tribal facilities, but it excludes UIOs. During the 
CMS consultation held on April 3, 2024, many Tribes and UIOs were in 
favor of extending FMAP to UIOs that is proposed by H.R. 6533 Urban 
Indian Health Parity Act, and a companion bill must be introduced and 
championed in the Senate. We have also requested CMS set a mandate for 
the participation of Managed Care Organizations (MCO) to further use 
across all States.
    Our Traditional Health Services have grown significantly in the 
past 8 years and our Tribal Health Practitioners are now integrated 
into our core care teams in our main clinic, expansion sites, and 
provided through home and hospital visits. We offered 1,825 traditional 
health encounters to 662 relatives between December 2021 and March 
2024. Initial evaluation reveals that traditional health services 
decreased anxiety symptoms, depressive symptoms, alcohol consumption, 
and suicidal ideation. We are among the first providers to integrate 
our traditional health services into electronic health records (EHR). 
We are establishing the framework for third-party reimbursement 
nationwide, partnering with the Community Health Plan of Washington, a 
local MCO, to pilot the system. They have agreed to pay for our 
services as a value-added benefit. Traditional Health Services 
represent the future of integrated health services that center 
culturally attuned services to complement western healthcare.
permanently reauthorize the special diabetes program for indians (sdpi)
    I request this subcommittee support permanent reauthorization of 
the SDPI, the only culturally appropriate programming for diabetes 
proven to treat and prevent Type-2 diabetes and reduce Type-2 diabetes 
complications in AI/AN communities.\6\ Each year, UIHI conducts the 
Urban Diabetes Care and Outcomes Audit and publishes the results 
online. The audits track diabetes care and outcomes for AI/AN people 
served by UIOs. In 2023, we found that urban AI/AN patients have 
positive indicators in patient kidney health, hypertension management, 
and increased access to eye, foot, and dental examinations.\7\ 
Nationally, the prevalence of diabetes among AI/AN adults has grown at 
a slower pace than other racial or ethnic groups from 2006 to 2012; in 
addition, obesity and diabetes rates have not increased among AI/AN 
youth for over a decade.\8\ After 23 years of SDPI, we have remarkable 
reductions in diabetes-related mortality, kidney failure, 
hospitalization, and diabetic eye disease rates. Now is the time to 
permanently reauthorize SDPI and protect our advancements in diabetes 
treatment and prevention.
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    \6\ Urban Indian Health Institute. (2023). Special Diabetes Program 
for Indian: Impact for Urban Indian Organizations. Retrieved from: 
https://www.uihi.org/projects/urban-diabetes-care-and-outcomes-audit/
    \7\ Indian Health Service. (2014). Changing the Course of Diabetes: 
Turning Hope into Reality. Retrieved from: https://www.ihs.gov//sites/
newsroom/themes/responsive2017/display_objects/documents/RepCong_2016/
SDPI_2014_Report_to_Congress.pdf
    \8\ Bullock A, Burrows NR, Narva AS, Sheff K, Hora I, Lekiachvili 
A, & Espey D. Vital signs: Decrease in incidence of diabetes-related 
end- stage renal disease among American Indians/Alaska Natives--United 
States, 1996-2013. MMWR. 2017; Morbidity and mortality weekly report, 
66(1), 26-32. doi:10.15585/mmwr.mm6601e
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    Thank you for allowing me to offer some insights into the day-to-
day of service and I look forward to continued partnership to 
strengthen healing within our communities. I hope you join us in our 
unwavering passion to serve, ``for the love of Indian people''.

    [This statement was submitted by Esther Lucero, MPP, President & 
CEO, Seattle Indian Health Board.]
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Prepared Statement of Self-Governance Communication & Education Tribal 
                               Consortium
    On behalf of SGCETC, I submit this written statement regarding 
funding priorities for the FY 2025 budgets for the Departments of the 
Interior's (DOI) Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), Health and Human 
Services' (HHS) Indian Health Service (IHS) and Environmental 
Protection Agency (EPA).
    The fiduciary responsibilities of the United States to Tribal 
Nations arise from commitments made in treaties and agreements, in 
exchange for which Indians relinquished vast tracks of homelands and 
resources.\1\ More than 380 Tribal Nations have entered into Self-
Governance agreements with the DOI and/or IHS to transfer Federal 
resources and programs from Federal to Tribal administration to better 
serve the needs of their citizens and communities. Tribal Nations that 
elect to administer Federal programs through Self-Governance agreements 
know that increased Tribal control and decision-making authority 
results in improved social and economic well-being at the local level.
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    \1\ 1Pub. L. No. 114-178, Sec. 101, 130 Stat. 432 (2016) (codified 
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    Tribal Nations assuming administration over programs once 
administered by Federal agencies, do so knowing that this does not 
abrogate the Federal Government's treaty and trust obligations. It 
empowers Tribal governments as sovereign nations to best determine the 
needs of their citizens and communities while bolstering Tribal 
economies and job creation for Indian country and surrounding non-
Native communities. As such, we offer the following recommendations:
  increase base budgets and recurring funding for indian programs and 
                    reduce reliance on grant funding
    Across the board, Federal Indian programs are significantly 
underfunded. The lack of adequate funding puts the lives of Tribal 
citizens at risk and limits the services provided by Tribal 
governments. Increases in base budgets for Indian programs will allow 
Tribes to fund core Tribal government programs and will provide an 
opportunity for additional Tribal Nations to participate in Self-
Governance.
    SGCETC supports the growing sentiment expressed by Tribal Nations 
that we do not want our funding sources to be increasingly supplemented 
by grants. Short-term competitive grants hinder Self-Governance because 
it creates uncertainty in planning, imposes extensive regulations and 
reporting requirements, and restricts the use of indirect costs. Tribal 
Nations are not non-profit organizations and should not be treated as 
such. The signers of the over 400 treaties between Tribal Nations and 
the United States did not sign with the intent of being dependent on 
grants. Lives were not lost, nor land ceded for our needs to be 
dependent on the review of a grant application package.
         reclassify section 105(l) costs as mandatory spending
    Pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance 
Act (ISDEAA), most Tribal Nations now administer programs that were 
previously administered by the Federal Government, which results in the 
need for Tribal facilities to house these programs. Section 105(l) of 
the ISDEAA, 25 USC Sec. 5324(l), provides that the Secretaries of DOI 
and HHS must enter into leases with an Indian Tribe or Tribal 
organization for the administration and delivery of services under the 
ISDEAA. Section 105(l) requires both Secretaries to compensate each 
Indian Tribe or Tribal organization for infrastructure costs, including 
rent, depreciation, operation and maintenance, and other reasonable 
expenses. Tribal Nations across the country are successfully entering 
into Section 105(l) agreements with both DOI and HHS to be compensated 
for the use of Tribal facilities that are needed to fulfill Federal 
responsibilities.
    Tribal Nations commend Congress in recognizing the Federal 
Government's obligation to fully fund 105(l) leases. The next step in 
fostering this progress is by reclassifying Section 105(l) lease 
funding from discretionary to mandatory spending.
     reclassify contract support costs (csc) as mandatory spending
    Contract Support Costs (CSC) are legally required pursuant to the 
Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act and Supreme 
Court decisions, but they are currently paid for under discretionary 
spending caps. Inclusion of the CSC account that is mandatory in nature 
under discretionary spending caps has resulted in a net reduction on 
the amount of funding provided for Tribal programs. Immediately moving 
CSC to mandatory is good risk management for the United States because 
the amount is already mandatory in nature and there is a mechanism for 
controlling costs. Since the amount is already mandatory in nature, 
there is nothing added to the mandatory budget by moving this authority 
to the mandatory side of the Federal ledger.
        advance appropriations for tribal programs and services
    We are grateful that Congress enacted Advanced Appropriations for 
the Indian Health Service for FY2024; however, we now urge Congress to 
extend advanced appropriations to the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the 
Bureau of Indian Education (BIE). Providing appropriations 1 year in 
advance for the BIA and BIE will mitigate the adverse financial effects 
of Federal budgetary uncertainties and allow Tribal Nations to engage 
in more effective strategic planning, spend funds more efficiently, 
grow our Tribal economies and businesses and increase the quality of 
care and well-being of our Tribal citizens and communities.
encourage ihs to open a new round of applications for the joint venture 
                          construction program
    The IHS Joint Venture Construction (JVC) Program represents a 
collaborative approach to healthcare infrastructure development. Tribal 
governments alleviate the upfront burden on IHS by taking on 
construction, expansion, or renovation costs, and IHS provides staffing 
funds for the facility over a 20-year span. The program has proven 
successful. Among other benefits, the JVC program leads to the 
development of modern healthcare facilities closer to Tribal 
communities-reducing travel time and improving access to essential 
medical services. In addition, the JVC program stimulates Tribal 
economies by creating job opportunities and boosting economic activity 
through expanded healthcare positions and construction-related 
spending. Lastly, by partnering with Tribal governments in the planning 
and construction of healthcare facilities, the program empowers Tribal 
communities to take control of their healthcare infrastructure, 
aligning with principles of Self-Governance, sovereignty, and Tribal 
culture.
    Thank you for the opportunity to share our recommendations with the 
subcommittee.

    [This statement was submitted by W. Ron Allen, President, Board of 
Directors, (SGCETC) and Tribal Chairman/CEO, Jamestown S'Klallam 
Tribe.]
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         Prepared Statement of the Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe
                            recommendations
    1. Support expedient passage of H.R. 7859, the Tribal Environmental 
Resiliency Resources Act (TERRA Act).

    2. Increase funding for Tribal environmental resilience and related 
programs in FY 2025, including those supporting Tribal community-driven 
relocation efforts.

    3. Support full, mandatory, and continued advance appropriations 
for the IHS.

    4. Fully fund critical infrastructure investments for the Indian 
health system.

    5. Support mandatory funding for Contract Support Costs and 105(l) 
leases.

    Thank you, Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members 
of the subcommittee, for the opportunity to share our funding 
priorities for the FY 2025 Federal budget. My name is Quintin Swanson, 
and I am the Chairman of the Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe. We are 
located 2,800 miles west-by-northwest of Washington, D.C., on the 
beautiful north shore of Willapa Bay in Washington State, on the 
Pacific Ocean. Like most coastal Tribes, we are stewards of the great 
ocean.
    As Tribal Chairman and lifelong resident of Tokeland, Washington, I 
have learned firsthand that vibrant and successful Tribal communities 
are not possible without first attending to the human health of 
community members and ensuring a healthy environment. I appreciate that 
the subcommittee is responsible for those same priorities, and it is in 
that shared spirit of community responsibility that I speak to you 
today. The following testimony provides information about our 
community's urgent efforts to move to a safer elevation protected from 
the environmental hazards of erosion, rising sea levels, and tsunamis, 
and the need for additional funding to support Tribal environmental 
resiliency programs. This testimony also outlines priorities for the FY 
2025 Indian Health Service (IHS) budget.
    We appreciate the subcommittee's continuing steps to support Tribal 
environmental resiliency, such as the recognition in House Report 118-
155 that some coastal Tribes ``experience severe weather-related 
conditions that jeopardize public safety and health.'' We are 
disheartened, however, that the subcommittee approved FY 2024 
limitations on Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) funding for purposes such 
as housing improvement, land acquisition, and road maintenance, as well 
as cuts to many environmental justice and resilience programs. These 
and other opportunities are essential for complex community relocation 
projects like ours, and for the variety of environment- and disaster-
driven problems facing Tribal communities nationwide. Overcoming these 
challenges will require substantial investments, and the consequences 
of failing to invest now will be devastating. We therefore urge the 
subcommittee to consider the Federal trust responsibility to Tribal 
Nations and support significantly increased funding for Tribal 
environmental resilience and related programs in FY 2025.
        shoalwater bay indian tribe and environmental resiliency
    Tribal communities are uniquely impacted by our changing 
environment due to a deep connection to our ancestral homelands. 
Environmental instability threatens our people, our land, and our 
culture. For Shoalwater, a Pacific Northwest coastal Tribe, all 
existing homes and infrastructure are just barely above sea level. For 
the last century, we have been losing 100-130 feet of land per year, 
adding up to a loss of about 2 miles of land. Estimates suggest that a 
sea level rise of just 2 more feet would put Tokeland underwater. 
Meanwhile, a single tsunami event would take out our homes, our 
government, our economic development opportunities, and what defines us 
as Shoalwater people. Right now, we are protected only by an eroding 
embankment constructed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which will 
be increasingly expensive to rebuild and maintain and is not a long-
term solution. Our Reservation will soon be gone as relentless erosion, 
bolstered by intensifying winter storms and rising sea waters, 
continues.
    Still, what we face is both a challenge and an opportunity to 
rebuild our community with long-term resilience. A few years ago, we 
used Tribal funding to purchase 1,200 acres of land adjacent to our 
Reservation at 250 feet above sea level for our new community location. 
The land was completely raw and undeveloped, however, meaning we must 
attend to the most basic needs, like clearing trees and building access 
roads, before we can even begin to work on vertical development. We 
have been tapping out our Tribal reserves to coordinate and plan this 
upland relocation and to implement the early phases, while still 
maintaining the delivery of essential services to our Tribal citizens.
    The upland relocation project is currently estimated to cost about 
$450 million in total, including expenses for roads and utilities, 
housing, and government buildings. We must rely primarily on Federal 
funding for this effort. Among other resources, we have been able to 
gather congressionally directed spending (CDS) in FY 2023 and FY 2024, 
a substantial RAISE grant from the Department of Transportation (DOT), 
and a Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Indian Housing 
Block Grant Competitive award for various planning and early 
development aspects of the upland relocation project. However, it is 
not always easy to access these funds or to use them efficiently when 
differing agencies and restrictions are involved. And still, these 
amounts combined are a drop in the bucket compared to our remaining 
needs.
    The cost of not being able to obtain the necessary resources to 
relocate our village is the highest cost any community can pay-erosion 
sea level rise will mean the annihilation of our Tribal community. The 
more days that go by, the closer we are to vanishing off the coast. 
Even physical survival scattered away from our homelands, will mean the 
erasure of our Tribal culture. The failure to dedicate adequate 
resources to these efforts is tantamount to being complicit in the 
disappearance of our lands, our people, and our ways of life.
     the tribal environmental resiliency resources act (terra act)
    We ask the subcommittee to support prompt passage of the TERRA Act, 
H.R. 7859, legislation designed to solve many of the problems we have 
encountered in undertaking our upland relocation project. Modeled on 
the Public Law 102-477 program, the TERRA Act would create a hub in the 
Department of the Interior (DOI) to improve the accessibility and 
efficiency of existing resources, such as those named above, by 
allowing Tribes to integrate them into individual, comprehensive plan 
tailored to their environmental resiliency needs.
    This means all the funds and resources necessary to achieve a 
Tribe's resiliency goals can reach the Tribe at the same time, while 
the interagency framework fosters relationships between the Tribe, DOI, 
and affected agencies. Plans may also include waivers of restrictive 
statutory or regulatory requirements to cut through red tape so the 
programs can function together in an effective and efficient manner. 
The TERRA Act fills existing gaps and eliminates barriers, such as that 
noted by the Government Accountability Office in a 2020 report 
identifying ``[u]nclear Federal leadership'' as ``the key challenge to 
climate migration as a resilience strategy'' because ``no Federal 
agency has the authority to lead Federal assistance for climate 
migration.'' \1\ The same is true for other resilience efforts.
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    \1\ Gov't Accountability Off. (GAO), GAO-20-488, A Climate 
Migration Pilot Program Could Enhance the Nation's Resilience and 
Reduce Federal Fiscal Exposure (July 2020), https://www.gao.gov/
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    Without a program like TERRA, we have had to manage our upland 
community relocation project piece by piece, little by little, as we go 
from agency to agency and appeal to our Congressional Delegation to 
string resources together. This has resulted in a long, drawn-out 
requiring large amounts of staffing capacity, time, and financial 
resources that we simply do not have. The problem is not that the 
resources do not exist, but that they are siloed and strewn across the 
Federal Government, with restrictive or conflicting timelines and 
requirements. With TERRA in place, Tribes would be able to go to one 
place to identify and access all available resources, then decide for 
themselves how they best fit together to serve their communities.
    The TERRA Act would also help solve other problems Shoalwater has 
faced, by improving interagency coordination and facilitating the 
ability of Tribes to put land into trust for community-driven 
relocation purposes. Our experience with DOT provides an example, at 
the agency will often not release emergency funding for road 
infrastructure until an existing road completely fails. If that occurs 
with State Route 105, which runs through our Reservation, it will cut 
our Tribal community off from its schools, banks, closest groceries, 
and will cut off many Tribal employees from their homes. The TERRA Act 
could assist with waiving these and other restrictive requirements. 
Additionally, Congress can and should change these rules to allow for 
substantial road replacement funding in advance of an existing route 
becoming impassable. Any funding of this nature should be non-
competitive and provided directly to Tribal governments without 
matching fund requirements.
    Shoalwater's application to put the upland relocation land into 
trust is still languishing at the Department of the Interior. Without 
trust status, we are unable to take advantage of many Federal benefits 
and programs that would otherwise be available. Further, we still do 
not have the land base to support the Tribal community indefinitely; we 
will need to acquire additional land to survive. For Shoalwater and 
most Tribes, these types of acquisitions by definition will be off-
reservation and subject to higher scrutiny under existing regulations. 
The TERRA Act provides expedited mandatory and discretionary trust 
acquisition processes for Tribes needing land for community-driven 
relocation. This is sorely needed to ensure that Tribes do not endure a 
lengthy and expensive fee-to-trust process when moving their 
communities to safety.
    The TERRA Act was introduced with bipartisan support in the U.S. 
House of Representatives on April 2, 2024, as H.R. 7859. It has 
widespread support from Tribal Nations and organizations, including 
NCAI, USET, NIHB, ATNI, and ANHB. The bill is now before the 
subcommittee on Indian and Insular Affairs of the House Natural 
Resources Committee. The importance of the TERRA Act to all of Indian 
Country cannot be overstated. We urge the Members of the subcommittee 
to support the TERRA Act by cosponsoring the bill, supporting efforts 
to move it forward, and seeing it through to full passage before the 
end of this Congressional session.
                    indian health service priorities
    In addition to critical community and environment needs, we also 
strongly support increasing the IHS budget. We thank the subcommittee 
for its bipartisan effort to protect Indian Country from cuts during 
the 2024 appropriations process. However, Congress must do more to 
fully honor its trust and treaty responsibilities to Tribal Nations. We 
remind the subcommittee that these obligations exist irrespective of 
any self-imposed budgetary caps. The IHS Tribal Budget Workgroup 
calculates this need at $53.9 billion. We support fully funding this 
amount in FY 2025.
    Support Full, Mandatory, and Continued Advance Appropriations: We 
appreciate the subcommittee's words in House Report 117-400, 
accompanying the FY 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA) (Pub. 
Law No. 117-328), which acknowledged the Administration's proposal to 
provide mandatory funding for IHS in FY 2023. The Federal trust 
responsibility for health is a mandatory obligation and should be 
treated as such. We encourage the subcommittee to advocate with your 
colleagues, on a bipartisan basis, to move IHS to full, mandatory 
funding for FY 2025 and beyond.
    However, if full, mandatory appropriations cannot be achieved for 
FY 2025, we continue to support IHS advance appropriations in the short 
term. We greatly appreciate the subcommittee's continued commitment to 
support advance appropriations for the IHS.
    Fully Fund Critical Infrastructure Investments: We were 
disappointed that the subcommittee approved cuts to Health Care 
Facilities Construction and Sanitation Facilities Construction in FY 
2024. Significant investments in Tribal health facilities construction 
must be a priority. With an average age of 40 years, IHS and Tribal 
health facilities are some of the oldest in the Nation and have 
insufficient capacity to effectively serve their patients. We recommend 
at least $2.5 billion for Health Care Facility Construction and 
associated costs in FY 2025.
    Support Mandatory Funding for Contract Support Costs (CSC) and 
105(l) Leases: If Congress cannot enact full mandatory funding for IHS 
this year, we continue to support mandatory funding for CSC and 105(l) 
leases at a minimum. We are disappointed by the absence of subcommittee 
language in House Report 118-155 advocating for this. Last year, in 
House Report 117-400, the subcommittee acknowledged that ``obligations 
of this nature are typically addressed through mandatory spending'' and 
that failing to do so impacts all other programs funded under the 
subcommittee. We ask the subcommittee to return to its advocacy stance 
and work with your colleagues on authorizing committees to enact 
mandatory appropriations for CSC and 105(l) leases for FY 2025 and 
future years.
                               conclusion
    I want to thank you for your time and attention, and I invite you 
to come visit us at Shoalwater. Our doors are open and we look forward 
to sharing with you our continued strength and resilience as a 
sovereign Tribal Nation.

    [This statement was submitted by Quintin Swanson, Chairman, 
Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe.]
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           Prepared Statement of the Southcentral Foundation
    My name is Dr. Donna Galbreath, and I am the Senior Medical 
Director of Quality Assurance of Southcentral Foundation (SCF) and an 
enrolled Mentasta Traditional Council member.
    SCF is the Alaska Native Tribal health organization under the 
Tribal authority of Cook Inlet Region, Inc. and designated by 11 
federally-recognized Tribes--the Aleut Community of St. Paul Island, 
Igiugig, Iliamna, Kokhanok, McGrath, Newhalen, Nikolai, Nondalton, 
Pedro Bay, Telida, and Takotna--to provide health care services. SCF is 
a model of the benefits of self-determination and the importance of 
allowing Alaska Native peoples to chart their own health care journey. 
SCF is a two-time recipient of the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality 
Award for health (2011 and 2017) and one of the largest employers in 
Alaska.
    SCF, through over 2,700 employees, provides critical health 
services, for the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual wellness 
of 70,000 Alaska Native and American Indian people. This includes 
55,000 people living in the Municipality of Anchorage and the 
Matanuska-Susitna Borough, and 15,000 residents of 55 rural 
communities. SCF offers over 85 programs including primary care, 
dental, behavioral health, and addiction treatment. It co-owns and co-
manages the Alaska Native Medical Center with the Alaska Native Tribal 
Health Consortium (ANTHC). SCF's service area encompasses over 100,000 
square miles, an area the size of Wyoming.
    Thank you to the subcommittee for the opportunity to address the 
ongoing funding needs of Southcentral Foundation once again. It is 
truly historic that Congress takes this time to listen to Tribal 
leaders from around the country about our funding needs.
    In my testimony today, I would like to briefly raise six issues:
advance appropriation is critical to the stability of the tribal health 
                         care delivery system.
    SCF appreciates the Appropriations Committee for providing advanced 
appropriations for the Indian Health Service for FY 2025. The Committee 
should do so permanently until mandatory funding for the Indian Health 
Service can be secured. However, in addition to providing advance 
appropriations, sufficient funding to account for the cost of medical 
inflation and population growth in Tribal communities should also be 
considered by the committee. Failure to do so would eventually result 
in a decrease in access to care.
mandatory appropriations and exemption from sequestration would help to 
       meet the trust responsibilities of the federal government.
    The administration's proposal to begin moving the entire IHS budget 
to a mandatory appropriation structure is commendable. Moving away from 
a discretionary appropriation toward mandatory funding would help to 
demonstrate the Federal Government's commitment to the health and well-
being of Alaska Native and American Indian people across the United 
States. Combined with increases in funding amounts, it will help to 
meet the Trust responsibilities the Federal Government owes to Tribes 
and Tribal members.
    In addition, to alleviate additional pressures on the IHS budget 
and the budgets of Tribal entities that contract and compact with the 
IHS, the appropriations for the agency should be exempted from 
sequestration. The IHS is the only major Federal health program that is 
not exempt from sequestration cuts. The possibility of these cuts, even 
if not realized, leads to uncertainty in budgeting for the agency and 
the Tribes that it works with.
        section 105(l) lease payments and contract support costs
    The committee's careful attention to the issue of 105(l) leases is 
appreciated. SCF strongly supports that these costs remain an 
indefinite appropriation, but with the goal to make sure these costs 
(along with contract support costs) are made mandatory costs so they do 
not continue to stress the limited funding allocation the subcommittee 
receives.
    Regarding Contract Support Costs, there is concern that the Indian 
Health Service is seeking to undermine its obligation, which has now 
been confirmed twice by the U.S. Supreme Court, to pay full contract 
support costs, by categorizing certain necessary costs/activities as 
secretarial activities, and refusing to pay contract support costs for 
these activities. These are and have always been considered contract 
support cost activities for which Tribes have received CSC payment. SCF 
requests the committee include language in its appropriations bill that 
would require the Indian Health Service to compute FY 2025 CSC 
consistent with computations undertaken in FY 2021.
                      health workforce development
    The pandemic highlighted the drastic shortage of health care 
workers in America. The need is at every clinical level from doctors, 
nurses, dentists, mental health specialists, to medical assistants, and 
other medical technicians. Further, the pandemic has resulted in 
widespread professional burnout among health care workers throughout 
America. Solving this workforce crisis is a mission-critical priority 
and SCF is exploring all avenues for recruiting talent and developing 
our own employees.
    SCF has worked to build systems that recruit, train, and develop 
not only clinical staff but executive staff as well. But additional 
support from the Federal Government is needed. While we appreciate that 
the funding for Indian Health Professions has minimally increased the 
past few years, more must be done to recruit and retain health care 
professionals to serve in Tribal communities. This includes increases 
in scholarships and increases in hiring and retention bonuses for 
individuals serving in Tribal communities.
    A key factor in being able to recruit and retain health 
professionals in rural Alaska is the lack of housing. The IHS should do 
a needs assessment of the professional housing needs in Alaska, and 
then seek funding to address this need.
                       behavioral health programs
    Congress must increase available funds for behavioral health. 
Alaska Native and American Indian people are disproportionately 
represented in substance misuse, especially opioid addiction, and 
suicide statistics. According to the Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention (CDC), drug overdose death rates for Alaska Native and 
American Indian people increased by 39% between 2019 and 2020. The CDC 
also found the suicide rate among Alaska Native people is almost three 
times the U.S. general population rate and at least six times the 
National average in some parts of Alaska.
    While SCF has, for decades, worked to grow behavioral health 
integration and specialty services, dramatic increases in funding are 
needed in order to truly meet the needs of the communities in our 
region. This funding should be appropriated and then distributed across 
Tribal health programs through formulas, rather than grant processes.
              the impact of build america, buy america act
    The intent of the Build America, Buy America Act is appreciated. 
Ensuring jobs and economic development in the United States is a 
worthwhile endeavor. However, the impact of the restrictions on Federal 
financial assistance to Tribes and Tribal organizations is large. In a 
State like Alaska, which already has some of the highest construction 
costs in the country, BABA can make entire projects infeasible. While 
there are possibilities of receiving a waiver of BABA rules, in 
practice this leads to lengthy delays in projects beginning, sometimes 
missing entire construction seasons in rural areas.
    SCF encourages the committee and Congress to consider a narrow 
Tribal exemption from BABA. This will allow limited dollars meant to 
meet the Trust responsibility to go a bit further and help to meet that 
principle of the government-to-government relationship.
                               conclusion
    SCF is a successful story of the benefits of self-determination. 
SCF is a customer-owned health care system that is driven by the voice 
of Alaska Native peoples. The organization has grown over the past few 
decades into an internationally known system of primary and behavioral 
health care. In closing, SCF suggests that the committees of 
jurisdiction consider moving beyond the IHS when it comes to 
contracting and compacting for the care and well-being of Alaska Native 
and American Indian people. The initial steps the Administration is 
taking in this vein are appreciated. However, more can be done to allow 
for Indigenous people to chart their own health care path.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to provide testimony on behalf 
of Southcentral Foundation and the 70,000 people we partner with on 
their journey of health and wellness.

    [This statement was submitted by Dr. Donna Galbreath, Southcentral 
Foundation.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Society for American Archaeology
    The Society for American Archaeology (SAA) is pleased to once again 
present its recommendations to the subcommittee regarding fiscal year 
2025 (FY 2025) appropriations for the Department of the Interior's 
(DoI) cultural resources preservation programs. I am Dr. Daniel H. 
Sandweiss, president of the SAA.
    The SAA is an international organization that, since its founding 
in 1934, has been dedicated to research about and interpretation and 
protection of the archaeological heritage of the Americas. With more 
than 5,500 The upcoming fiscal year will make for a good first 
installment in this effort members, the SAA represents professional and 
avocational archaeologists, archaeology students in colleges and 
universities, and archaeologists working at Tribal agencies, museums, 
government agencies, and the private sector. The SAA has members 
throughout the United States, as well as in many nations around the 
world.
    The members of the SAA understand the fiscal difficulties facing 
Congress. The lengthy delay in completing the FY 2024 spending 
legislation only added to the complications that appropriators had to 
face. Given these realities, we appreciate the fact that the final 
agreement maintained many accounts at level funding. Nevertheless, we 
must make two important points. First, the need for more Federal 
archaeologists and funding to support cultural resources preservation 
is great and continues to increase, thanks in large part to the growth 
in workloads from the infrastructure bills of 2021 and 2022. Second, 
the recent revisions to the regulations implementing the Native 
American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) will create 
substantial new compliance burdens on agencies that are not adequately 
met by either existing appropriations or those called for in the 
administration's FY 2025 budget request.
    The Federal and federally funded historic and cultural preservation 
programs created under the National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA), 
the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), and other preservation 
statutes, and the activities that they support, comprise the principal 
means of preserving and protecting our Nation's irreplaceable historic, 
archaeological, and cultural treasures. It is imperative that Congress 
supply Federal agencies with the staff and the means necessary to 
effectively carry out these functions. This is especially true given 
that so many of the renewable energy infrastructure projects authorized 
by legislation in 2021 and 2022 have reached the permitting and 
construction phases.
    As we stated in last year's testimony, Federal archaeologists 
perform a huge number of mission-critical tasks, and their numbers are 
inadequate given the scale of the mission, which is immense and 
growing. The following table shows the number of acres overseen by the 
top land-managing agencies versus the number of archaeologists each 
agency employs to carry out reviews under Section 106 of the NHPA for 
Federal projects:

 
 
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                         Agency                              Acreage     Archaeologists    Acres/ Archaeologist
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BLM....................................................     244 million             217                1,124,424
USFS...................................................     191 million             462                  413,420
USFWS..................................................      89 million              22                4,045,455
NPS....................................................      80 million             268                  298,507
DoD....................................................    9 million\*\             305                   29,508
    Total..............................................     613 million           1,274                  481,162
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\*\  Domestic acreage only

    If the Section 106 process is to function effectively and federally 
sponsored undertakings are to be delivered in a timely manner, the NPS, 
BLM, and other agencies need still more archaeologists to satisfy the 
statutorily required program responsibilities.
  national park service-national recreation and preservation cultural 
                         programs: $50 million
    NPS National Recreation and Preservation Cultural Programs provide 
vital technical assistance and other support for resource protection 
within National Parks and for other Federal agencies. In particular, 
the archaeological program identifies, documents, and inventories 
archaeological resources in parks; produces archaeological technical 
and programmatic publications; implements regulations for protecting 
archaeological resources; and assists other agencies through program 
development and training. The SAA greatly appreciates the 
administration's budget request for $44.1 million for FY 2024, of which 
$3 million of the requested increase for FY 2024 would go to fund the 
new African American Burial Ground Network program and the balance to 
pay increases. The SAA believes, however, that more is needed and 
requests another $6 million to fill vacant archaeologist positions 
within the NPS. The increase will also allow the NPS to continue to 
apply its National Archaeology Database information to the NAGPRA 
compliance efforts of the NPS and other agencies. As pointed out in the 
National Parks Conservation Association's report of April 2024, the NPS 
will need $250 million over the next 5 years ``to help the National 
Park Service protect, restore, and archive our country's diverse 
history.'' The upcoming fiscal year would make for a good first 
installment in this effort.
            national park service-hpf funding: $225 million
    The Historic Preservation Fund (HPF) provides crucial support to 
State Historic Preservation Offices (SHPOs) and Tribal Historic 
Preservation Offices (THPOs) and matching grants to nonprofits and 
local governments to preserve and document historic resources. The HPF 
(among other programs) plays a crucial role in the ability of States 
and local municipalities to comply with the preservation system 
established by the NHPA, particularly with regard to Section 106 
consultations. SHPOs and THPOs remain the ``front line'' in the effort 
to preserve our cultural heritage, and just as Federal archaeologists 
are dealing with substantial workload increases, so are SHPOs and 
THPOs, the latter of whom face an even more difficult situation, given 
the average funding per office. There are now 221 offices and the 
average THPO receives just $104,000 per year. The increases for the HPF 
in the omnibus FY 2023 appropriations legislation were badly needed. 
Unfortunately, the president's request for static SHPO and THPO funding 
levels is insufficient to handle the increased workload. The SAA 
recommends an overall amount of $225 million for the HPF, of which $70 
million would go to SHPOs and $34 million to THPOs.
  bureau of land management-cultural resources management: $30 million
    The BLM manages 245 million acres, which makes the agency the 
largest land manager in the United States. These lands contain an 
enormous number of known and as-yet-undiscovered cultural resources, 
many of which are in remote locations, while others are in areas with 
high visitation rates. Patrolling, inventorying, and monitoring of 
cultural heritage sites is essential to their protection. The 217 
archaeologists on staff, along with the small number of other cultural 
resources specialists and law enforcement officers, are simply not 
enough to accomplish the mission when each archaeologist is responsible 
for over 1 million acres. The reduction of more than $800,000 in the 
final FY 2024 spending package is exacerbating the problem, 
particularly in light of recent salary increases. On top of that, 
complying with the new NAGPRA regulations is going to place a 
substantial new demands on BLM personnel that existing funding and 
staff levels cannot possibly meet. The administration's request for an 
additional $250,000 and a new full-time employee is completely 
inadequate. In order to bring BLM's cultural resources personnel and 
funding up to sufficient levels, we request an increase of $10.78 
million, $5 million of which should be dedicated toward NAGPRA 
regulatory work.
  bureau of land management-national conservation lands: $65.8 million
    The National Conservation Lands (NCL), first established in 2000 
and authorized by Congress in 2009, contains more than 37 million acres 
that are home to an extensive and diverse array of the Nation's 
archaeological and cultural resources. The FY 2023 omnibus 
appropriations bill contained $61.5 million for the NCL. Unfortunately, 
the FY 2024 budget agreement reduced that amount by $2.46 million. In 
order to secure the gains made to stewardship of these lands and the 
cultural resources they contain, we support the administration's 
request of $65.8 million for FY 2025, an increase of $6.67 million.
    forest service recreation, heritage and wilderness: $55 million
    USFS heritage activities focus on Section 106 compliance on Federal 
forest land, a task it is struggling to carry out, given the enormous 
increase in workload thanks to the passage of the infrastructure bills. 
While the USFS hired new archaeologists in FY 2023 to deal with the 
situation, most National Forests still remain understaffed. This 
situation will be exacerbated by the fact that many of the projects 
authorized by the Inflation Reduction Act and other measures are now 
ready to proceed. The $10 million reduction in the FY 2024 budget for 
the Recreation, Heritage and Wilderness account makes this reality even 
worse. In order to fulfill its preservation obligations and comply with 
the new NAGPRA regulations, we recommend the Recreation, Heritage and 
Wilderness account be allocated $55 million.
fish and wildlife service historic preservation: increase of $4 million
    The US Fish and Wildlife Service is tasked with identifying and 
caring for the historic properties located within the lands and waters 
under its management. This includes nearly 17,000 recorded 
archaeological and paleontological sites, as well as millions of 
objects under its control in museums and collections facilities. As we 
noted above, there are only 22 archaeologists on staff in the USFWS. 
This number is wholly inadequate if the Service is to carry out its 
congressionally mandated historic preservation responsibilities. 
Increasing the number of archaeologists will help clear the way for 
other projects in the refuges to move forward but also builds 
relationships with local communities, including many Indigenous 
peoples. As with other agencies, the work necessary for compliance with 
the new NAGPRA regulations will place an additional burden on the 
already-overworked archaeological staff. Though the USFWS historic 
preservation program does not receive a line item allocation, we 
recommend that the subcommittee specify an increase of $4 million for 
the program in FY 2025. This new funding will allow the USFWS to 
increase its archaeological staff to 40 and enable the Service to 
comply with its new NAGPRA responsibilities.
 department of defense (dod) legacy resource management program: $1.5 
                                million
    The Department of Defense Legacy Resource Management Program is 
partnering with the National Preservation Institute (NPI) to carry out 
survey projects under Section 110 of the National Historic Preservation 
Act. These projects identify and evaluate historic properties under the 
DoD's stewardship. About 51% of the Department's land holdings remain 
to be surveyed, and this initiative will make a significant 
contribution toward reducing that number. While the DoD has allocated 
$13.5 million over 5 years to the Legacy Resource Management Program, 
and the NPI will support the effort with $1.25 million this year, the 
SAA believes that Congress could strengthen and accelerate the effort 
with another $1.5 million.
  native american graves protection and repatriation act grants: $12 
                                million
    Compliance with the new NAGPRA rule will require a great deal of 
time and money from covered institutions. Consultation between Tribes 
and museum and curation facilities, and the disposition of remains and 
cultural objects, is an intensive and often expensive process but one 
that must be done correctly to ensure that objects are returned to the 
correct lineal descendants, Indian Tribes, and Native Hawaiian 
organizations, if that is the desired outcome of stakeholders. The 
NAGPRA Grants Program serves an invaluable role in facilitating these 
activities, but it will require far greater resources than are 
currently available in order to meet the increased demand expected to 
be created by the revised regulations. The SAA requests that the NAGPRA 
Grants Program receive $12 million in FY 2025.
    Cumulatively, these appropriations fund the bedrock of the 
protection and ongoing identification of archaeological sites in 
America. Preserving this fragile knowledge is crucial for today and for 
tomorrow. The SAA greatly appreciates your time and consideration of 
these important issues. Please contact us if you have any questions or 
concerns.

    [This statement was submitted by Daniel H. Sandweiss, President of 
the Society for American Archaeology.]
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                Prepared Statement of Sonoma Land Trust
    This testimony is being submitted on behalf of Sonoma Land Trust. 
We appreciate the opportunity to submit comments on the fiscal year 
(FY) 2025 Interior Appropriations bill. We request Congress to allocate 
$602.3 million in funding for National Wildlife Refuge System 
Operations and Maintenance account under the United States Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS).
    We partner closely with the San Pablo Bay National Wildlife Refuge 
(NWR) on many projects, including land acquisition, restoration, and 
conservation for the benefit of fish and wildlife and their habitats in 
San Francisco Bay. Our collaboration has been critical to the 
successful restoration of thousands of acres of diked baylands to 
wetland habitats. We have purchased, restored, and transferred several 
parcels to the San Pablo Bay NWR, including Sears Point and Haire 
Ranch.
    The Service worked closely with us on the development of the Sonoma 
Creek Baylands Strategy, an integrated plan for landscape-scale habitat 
restoration, flood reduction, and public access in the Sonoma Creek 
watershed. The planning area encompasses several units of the San Pablo 
Bay NWR. We are now working with the Refuge and our partners on 
implementing the restoration of this former tidal marsh ecosystem, 
starting with Phase One of the Sonoma Creek Baylands Restoration 
Project. The San Pablo Bay NWR needs additional funding and increased 
capacity to continue to collaborate with us to achieve the restoration, 
public access, and habitat goals of the Sonoma Creek Baylands Strategy 
and other regional plans.
    Since 2010 the Refuge System has added 21 new refuge units and 549 
million submerged marine acres, opened 6 million acres for hunting and 
fishing, and seen visitation grow to over 68 million annual visitors-an 
increase of 47 percent since FY2011. While these additions have 
enhanced the Refuge System and benefited the communities around these 
refuges, this growth has also put more pressure on the already stressed 
and underfunded Refuge System.
    Funding for the Refuge System has only increased by 4.7% since 
FY2010 to $527 million, or $5.55 per land acre. When accounting for 
total land and water acres, the Refuge System budget is a mere .62 per 
acre. Considering the level of inflation, annual fixed costs, and 
increased needs of the Refuge System since FY2010, the Refuge System 
budget has effectively decreased.
    The number of full-time employees (FTEs)-already a fraction of the 
other comparable Federal land agencies at 2,500 FTEs-has decreased by 
27% since FY2011. This has made it difficult for the Refuge System to 
manage its vast network of lands and waters and to fulfill its mission 
of conserving wildlife and habitats. The insufficient funding and 
capacity impacts are felt system-wide, impacting conservation planning, 
wildlife and habitat management, visitor services, law enforcement, and 
maintenance. No refuges are fully staffed, and more than half of 
refuges have zero staff on site. Multiple refuges have been closed to 
the public and are completely unmanaged. Many employees must manage 
multiple wildlife refuge units, sometimes traveling hundreds of miles 
per day. Many volunteer programs have also been cut back or eliminated 
due to a lack of supervision from professional FTEs or necessary 
infrastructure.
    We urge Congress to prioritize the Refuge System and address these 
overarching funding challenges to ensure that the USFWS is equipped to 
effectively manage the wildlife, habitat, programs, and visitorship 
that rely on the health and integrity of the Refuge System. Ultimately, 
the Refuge System needs at least $2.2 billion in annual appropriations 
to effectively fulfill its conservation mission, provide opportunities 
for wildlife-dependent recreation, and connect communities to nature. 
The President's FY2025 Budget Request of $602.3 million is an important 
step towards that goal.
    Thank you for considering our request of $602.3 million for the 
National Wildlife Refuge System in FY2025. Please feel free to contact 
Ariana Rickard, Public Policy and Funding Program Manager for Sonoma 
Land Trust at ariana@sonomalandtrust.org.

    [This statement was submitted by Ariana Rickard, Public Policy and 
Funding Program Manager, Sonoma Land Trust.]
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   Prepared Statement of Southeast Alaska Regional Health Consortium
    My name is Michael E. Douglas. I am a member of the Haida Indian 
Tribe of Alaska, enrolled with the Central Council Tlingit & Haida 
Indian Tribes of Alaska, and I am Senior Vice President, Chief Legal 
Officer for the Southeast Alaska Regional Health Consortium (SEARHC). 
Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony regarding FY 2025 
appropriations for the Indian Health Service (IHS).
 fund the mt. edgecumbe medical center joint venture staffing package.
    SEARHC is a Tribal consortium comprised of 15 federally-recognized 
Tribes that provides health care services to Alaska Natives, American 
Indians and other residents throughout Southeast Alaska through a 
comprehensive network of community clinics, behavioral health 
facilities, administrative facilities, and the Mt. Edgecumbe Medical 
Center (MEMC), a major hospital located in Sitka, Alaska that serves 
much of Southeast Alaska. MEMC is a 25-bed critical access hospital 
that offers a broad range of medical care services, including acute 
care, critical care, obstetrics, surgery, perioperative care, as well 
as outpatient primary and emergency service. The Emergency Department 
at MEMC is a Level IV Trauma Center staffed 24 hours a day, seven days 
a week by board-certified physicians, physician assistants, nurse 
practitioners and registered nurses who specialize in care for patients 
with serious illnesses and injuries. As SEARHC has often testified to 
Congress-and this subcommittee-MEMC has long been in dire need of 
replacement.
    Working together with IHS through the Joint Venture Program, and 
Congress-through critical land transfer legislation for parcels that 
will house the new facilities-SEARHC is constructing a new 234,000 
square foot healthcare facility that will be complete in 2025. The 
administration's FY 2025 Budget includes $47.75 million for the 
staffing and operations cost package for the new facility. This 
staffing package is a critical near-final step in a multi-year effort 
that has required deep coordination between SEARHC, the Federal 
Executive and Legislative branches, Tribal governments, and the State 
of Alaska. The result will be significantly improved access to 
healthcare at state-of-the-art facilities for the people of Southeast 
Alaska.
    SEARHC urges the subcommittee to support the Administration's 
request for Staffing and Operating Costs for Newly-Constructed 
Healthcare Facilities, including the requested funding the Mt. 
Edgecumbe Medical Center.
         continue providing advance appropriations for the ihs.
    SEARHC wishes to express its continued appreciation for providing 
advanced appropriations for the Indian Health Service. The Committee 
should do so again for FY 2025 and for every year until mandatory 
funding for the Indian Health Service can be secured. It is critical, 
however, that the advance appropriations funding level accounts for the 
cost of medical inflation and population growth in Tribal communities. 
In the current environment, flat funding or nominal increases could 
result in a decrease in access to care.
  move the ihs budget to mandatory appropriations and exempt it from 
                             sequestration.
    The administration proposes to begin moving the entire IHS budget 
to a mandatory appropriation structure. SEARHC supports this proposal 
and urges the Committee to do so as well. Movin the IHS budget to 
mandatory funding is in line with the United States' Trust and Treaty 
obligations to Alaska Native and American Indian Tribes and people, and 
will provide an additional measure of stability and support for our 
healthcare programs.
    Similarly, the Committee should protect the IHS budget, as well as 
the budgets of Tribes and Tribal Organizations that contract or compact 
with the IHS pursuant to the Indian Self Determination and Educational 
Assistance Act, by exempting them from sequestration. The IHS is the 
only major Federal healthcare program that is not exempt from 
sequestration, and the possibility of these cuts undermines the 
stability and certainty that is needed for planning and operating our 
programs.
                               conclusion
    SEARHC appreciates the hard work of the Committee in upholding the 
United States' obligations to Alaska Native and American Indian Tribes 
and people, even in a difficult fiscal climate. With your steadfast 
support, Tribal healthcare providers have been making major strides in 
improving access to high-quality healthcare in high-quality facilities. 
Supporting the IHS budget, including the Joint Venture staffing 
package, will continue this legacy.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to provide testimony on behalf 
of SEARHC. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

    [This statement was submitted by Michael E. Douglas, on behalf 
Southeast Alaska Regional Health Consortium.]
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       Prepared Statement of the Squaxin Island Tribal Leadership
    On behalf of the Squaxin Island Tribal Leadership and citizens, it 
is an honor to provide our priority funding requests and 
recommendations for the FY 2025 Budgets for the Bureau of Indian 
Affairs (BIA), Indian Health Service (IHS) and Environmental Protection 
Agency. We applaud the Committees' work to include advance 
appropriations for the IHS in the FY 2023 omnibus spending package and 
we will work with Congress to also include the BIA and BIE. We will 
also continue to advocate and urge Congress to shift funding for all 
Tribal programs to mandatory direct appropriations. Overall, we urge 
Congress to exempt Tribal program funding from sequestrations, 
rescissions, and disproportionate cuts.
                 squaxin island tribe specific requests
  
    1. +$3.7 Million Retention Ponds Upgrade--EPA

  2. +$20 Million Deschutes Estuary Restoration--Phase I

  3. +$1.8 Million--Northwest Indian Treatment Center (NWITC) 
        Residential Program in IHS

    A. +$1.5 million--Medicine Building

    B. +$300,000--Sustain Operations

  4. +$900,000 Shellfish Management Program--BIA

    SUPPORT NATIONAL and REGIONAL FY 2025 BUDGET Requests and 
Recommendations by the National Congress of American Indians, National 
Indian Health Board, National Indian Education Association, Affiliated 
Tribes of Northwest Indians and the Northwest Indian Fisheries 
Commission
                    squaxin island tribe background
    We are native people of South Puget Sound and descendants of the 
maritime people who lived and prospered along these shores for untold 
centuries. We are known as the People of the Water because of our 
strong cultural connection to the natural beauty and bounty of Puget 
Sound going back hundreds of years. The Squaxin Island Indian 
Reservation is in southeastern Mason County, Washington and the Tribe 
is a signatory to the 1854 Medicine Creek Treaty. Our treaty-designated 
reservation is approximately 2.2 square miles of uninhabited forested 
land, surrounded by the bays and inlets of southern Puget Sound. The 
Tribe has a current enrollment of 1,123 and an on-reservation 
population of 426 living in 141 homes. Squaxin has an estimated service 
area population of 2,747; a growth rate of about 10%, and an 
unemployment rate of about 30%.
         squaxin island tribe specific requests/justifications
   +$3.7 million--squaxin island retention ponds upgrade (epa stag--
                 congressional direct spending request)
    Our water conservation plan includes the use of retention ponds to 
store reclaimed water from our Membrane Bioreactor for irrigation. The 
purpose of the retention ponds is to control the outflow of reclaimed 
water for infiltration into the earth, improve water quality and 
support a healthy ecosystem. The use of reclaimed water conserves cold 
clean water for human consumption as well as salmon habitat and can 
satisfy most water demands, because it is highly treated to ensure 
water quality appropriate for most uses except for drinking. The 
current retention pond storage capacity is twenty-three million 
gallons. An additional twenty-three million gallons of reclaimed water 
storage is needed to limit winter infiltration needs and to have enough 
summer irrigation water. Efforts to build the additional storage were 
delayed by the COVID outbreak, but the urgency and need for these 
upgrades have escalated.
    Reclaimed water retention ponds are man-made, sloped ponds that 
collect reclaimed water and some stormwater. The water undergoes 
additional treatment in the retention pond in the form of filtering and 
settling of sediments and released very slowly in the winter season, 
and rapidly in the summer season. The soil and rock matrix of the earth 
serves as a natural filter and treatment medium for the reclaimed 
water. Without the retention ponds, release of reclaimed water could 
not be controlled, and it would result in some discharge to local 
streams.
    The Salish Cliffs Golf Course serves an important purpose of 
receiving, filtering, and infiltrating the Tribe's reclaimed wastewater 
into the earth. Without the golf course, the Tribe would have to 
discharge to Skookum Creek or Little Skookum Inlet. Discharging surface 
water would affect aquatic life and limit the opportunities of Tribal 
members and the public to recreate and to consume shellfish from 
Skookum Inlet. Two components of the reclaimed water disposal system 
need upgrades:
    Replace liner of current reclaimed water retention pond. The liner 
is reaching the end of its useful life.
    Build additional reclaimed water storage in the form of a second 
retention pond. The need for a second retention pond comes from the 
fact that the golf course cannot store enough reclaimed water in the 
winter to hold for summer irrigation. Golf course operators still must 
apply reclaimed water to the golf course during the rainy season 
because they cannot store enough. In the dry season, they use up all of 
the stored reclaimed water.
+$20 million deschutes estuary restoration project--design & permitting 
                        phase i (epa and usfws)
    The Restoration Project will improve ecological conditions, achieve 
state water quality standards, improve climate resilience, and restore 
recreational boating and fishing in the waterbody. In addition to the 
removal of the 5th Avenue Dam, an approximate 500-foot-wide opening 
will be created to reintroduce tidal flows to the project area and 
restore 260 acres of estuarine conditions and salt marsh habitat at the 
mouth of the Deschutes River.
    Capitol Lake was part of the Deschutes Estuary, where freshwater 
from the Deschutes River would mix with saltwater over expansive tide 
flats. The Deschutes Estuary has long-standing cultural and spiritual 
significance to local Tribes, particularly the Squaxin Island Tribe. An 
estimated 35,000 cubic yards of sediment is transported by the 
Deschutes River (and Percival Creek) into the Capitol Lake Basin each 
year, shallowing the Lake and resulting in conditions that are visibly 
altered. Following construction of the 5th Avenue Dam, construction 
sediment accumulation reached up to 13 feet thick in some areas. Water 
quality monitoring began in the 1970s in response to excessive growth 
of aquatic plants, dense algal mats, and reduced water clarity, which 
are caused by high nutrient levels.
    In the late 1980s, management strategies were implemented to 
address aquatic invasive species which currently consists of more than 
a dozen different plant and animal species in Capitol Lake. In 2009, 
the presence of the invasive New Zealand mudsnail resulted in official 
closure of the waterbody to all public uses. This includes restricted 
access by the Squaxin Island Tribe to their usual and accustomed 
fishing grounds and stations.
    In October 2022, a final Environmental Impact Statement was issued, 
and the Estuary Alternative was identified as preferred for long-term 
management of Capitol Lake because it will achieve project goals and 
has the greatest ability for long-term support. Some benefits of the 
project will include:

  --Provide productive habitat for shellfish, salmon, and other 
        anadromous species, including aquatic species listed as 
        threatened under the Endangered Species Act;

  --Serve as a key step in restoring productive migratory fisheries in 
        south Puget Sound and advancing Orca recovery;

  --Address chronic water quality violations by improving dissolved 
        oxygen conditions in Budd Inlet;

  --Increase climate resiliency across downtown Olympia by reducing 
        maximum flood elevations by one foot compared to conditions 
        with the 5th Avenue Dam in place;

  --Produce habitat that will better sequester carbon than existing 
        conditions; and,

  --Celebrate the Pacific Northwest through native plantings, 
        interpretive signs, and Tribal art installations.
. + $1.8 million increase for northwest indian treatment center (nwitc) 
  residential program--h"d3wxbi palil'' meaning ``returning from the 
                 dark, deep waters to the light'' (ihs)
    The Squaxin Island Tribe's Northwest Indian Treatment Center, D3f 
bi Pa lil, is a residential treatment facility that serves Native 
Americans with chronic substance abuse patterns related to unresolved 
grief and complex trauma, including generational trauma. NWITC is 
accredited by the Commission on Accreditation of Rehabilitation 
Facilities (CARF International) and is a recognized national model of 
treatment for trauma in the presence of addiction, uniquely integrating 
the best practice of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT) with Plant 
Medicines. This culturally infused best practice, based on the NWITC 
program, has been adapted in many Tribal communities since its 
development. DBT is a model of treatment with good research results for 
the treatment of substance abuse and mental health conditions. NWITC 
has these urgent needs:
    Medicine Building--this project is shovel ready with cost estimated 
at +$1.5 million--This building will support and expand the reach of 
the activities of the DBT/Plant Medicine program. It will be a place of 
medicine making, but also have video capacity linking this program to 
other Tribal medicine programs and creating a library available to 
Tribal behavioral health programs and NWITC alumni. The result will be 
better support for alumni, but also will help build capacity virtually 
in Tribal communities in the Northwest.
    NWITC Recovery Support Team and Outreach--+$300,000--The pandemic 
attributed to a high relapse rate in Tribal communities served by 
NWITC. Even though the NWITC has a Recovery Support Team who actively 
supports alumni for 1-year post treatment, in the current environment 
this is insufficient. NWITC requires a staff position to provide the 
DBT/Plant Medicine training/coaching in the Tribal communities in which 
alumni live. Costs include an FTE position, accommodation expenses for 
alumni to participate. In past events, NWITC has verified this as the 
most successful approach for teaching/coaching alumni.
    +$900,000--shellfish management (bia--fish hatchery maintenance 
                                program)
    The Squaxin Island Tribe faces an ongoing budget deficit to 
maintain and operate the shellfish program at its current level of 
operation-a level that leaves 20% of treaty-designated state lands and 
80-90% of private tidelands unharvested due to the lack of funding. To 
address this shortfall and enable effective growth and development of 
the program, an annual minimum increase of $900,000 is requested. 
Shellfish have been a mainstay for the Squaxin Island people for 
thousands of years--for subsistence, economically and for ceremonial 
purposes. The Tribe's right to harvest shellfish is guaranteed by the 
1854 Medicine Creek Treaty. Today, we are unable to fully exercise our 
treaty rights due to the lack of Federal support for our shellfish 
management program.

    [This statement was submitted by Kristopher K. Peters, Chairman, 
Squaxin Island Tribe.]
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   Prepared Statement of the State of New Mexico Office of the State 
                                Engineer
    Congress authorized the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control 
Program (Program) through the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act 
(Act) in 1974 to offset increased damages caused by development and use 
of the waters of the Colorado River. Congress has directed the 
Secretary of the Interior (Secretary) to implement a comprehensive 
program for minimizing salt contributions to the Colorado River from 
lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). BLM has 
funded these efforts as directed by Congress through its Aquatic 
Resources Program. A funding level of $2.0 million for salinity 
specific projects in 2025 is requested to comply with this direction.
    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has identified that 
more than 60 percent of the salt load of the Colorado River comes from 
natural sources. Most of the land within the Colorado River Basin is 
federally owned, and much of it is administered by BLM. In authorizing 
Program, Congress recognized that most of the salts in the Colorado 
River originate from federally owned lands.
    Reclamation estimates that damages costing about $350 million per 
year are caused by excess salinity in the Lower Basin of the Colorado 
River. The salinity of the River increases about 15-fold from its 
headwaters in the mountains of Colorado to the Lower Basin near Yuma. 
Modeling by Reclamation indicates that the quantifiable damages would 
rise to approximately $447 million by the year 2040 without 
continuation of the Program. These damages occur in the form of:

  --reduced ability to reclaim and reuse water for drinking or 
        irrigation,

  --reduced yield of salt sensitive crops,

  --increased use of imported water and cost of desalination,

  --reduced useful life of water pipe systems and household appliances,

  --increased cost of cooling operations and water softening,

  --increased use of water and cost of water treatment,

  --decreased lifespan of treatment facilities, and difficulty in 
        meeting wastewater discharge requirements to comply with 
        Federal laws

    New Mexico is a member of the Colorado River Basin Salinity Control 
Forum and voted in favor of adopting a Plan of Implementation developed 
to control the salinity levels in the Colorado River. The level of 
appropriation ($2 million) requested in this testimony is in keeping 
with this same Plan. New Mexico stands in support of Congress 
allocating this money to the BLM.

    [This statement was submitted by Mike A. Hamman, PE, New Mexico 
State Engineer.]
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             Prepared Statement of the Surfrider Foundation
    The Surfrider Foundation (``Surfrider'') strongly supports the 
appropriations of $15 million to the Beaches Environmental Assessment 
and Coastal Health (``BEACH'') Act Grants Program and $100 million to 
the U.S./Mexico Border Water Infrastructure Grant Program 
(Infrastructure Assistance: Mexico Border State and Tribal Assistance 
Grants) administered by the Environmental Protection Agency (``EPA'') 
to protect public health and beach water quality in the Fiscal Year 
(FY) 2025 Federal budget.
    The EPA BEACH Act Grants Program provides critical funding to 35 
States and territories to conduct beach water quality testing, publish 
results on public notification programs, and post signage when elevated 
bacteria levels are measured. Many States rely completely on this 
funding to administer their beach water quality testing and public 
notification programs which are essential for protecting public health 
and coastal tourism economies. However, years of funding this program 
at less than a third of its authorized level has resulted in piecemeal 
water testing across the Nation, where local agencies are forced to 
reduce testing frequency, test only at certain beaches, and test only 
during a portion of the year, leaving many beaches and communities in 
the dark regarding the status of their local water quality. According 
to the EPA, of the 5,089 EPA BEACH Act ``program beaches'', only 3,560 
beaches were monitored in 2023,\1\ with many of which monitored less 
than once a week and only during ``beach season''.
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    The nation's $138 billion coastal tourism and recreation industry 
supports nearly 2.5 million jobs,\2\ but it is dependent upon clean 
water and healthy beaches. Sadly, coastal water quality is constantly 
at risk of impairments from untreated and undertreated sewage due to 
outdated and inadequately maintained wastewater infrastructure, 
resulting in combined sewer overflows, sewage spills and diversions, 
backups and cracks of sewage distribution pipes, and more. Over 850 
billion gallons of raw sewage are released into U.S. waterways each 
year from sewer overflows alone.\3\
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    Additionally, many outdated decentralized wastewater systems 
provide no treatment before releasing sewage polluted wastewater into 
the environment. Approximately 25 percent of U.S. households are still 
serviced by septic and cesspool systems,\4\ with up to 50 percent of 
households serviced by septic and cesspool systems in certain 
States.\5\ For instance, there are nearly 88,000 cesspools in Hawaii 
that discharge 53 million gallons of sewage into coastal waters every 
day.\6\ On the East End of Long Island, New York, there are 
approximately 360,000 on-site sewage disposal systems of which 250,000 
are cesspools.\7\ Sewage polluted wastewater often makes it into 
stormwater runoff, which continues to be the main cause of beach 
closures nationwide. There is an estimated 10 trillion gallons of 
untreated stormwater runoff threatening our coastlines and local 
waterways each year.\8\
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the-days-when-septic-can-be-out-of-sight-out-of-mind#stream/0
    \6\ https://health.hawaii.gov/wastewater/home/cesspools/
    \7\ www.suffolkcountyny.gov/news/artmid/583/articleid/2725/suffolk-
health-officials-outline-changes-to-wastewater-practices-to-take-
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    Exposure to untreated and undertreated sewage poses a significant 
public health threat. Sewage contains bacteria, viruses and parasites 
that can make people sick with gastrointestinal symptoms, rashes, and 
eye infections, as well as more serious conditions including hepatitis, 
acute respiratory disease, cholera, giardia, methicillin-resistant 
staph infections (MRSA), and even flesh eating bacteria from V. 
vulnificus, among others. A 2018 study estimated that each year, 90 
million illnesses are caused by recreating in sewage-polluted waters, 
which costs the U.S. economy up to $3.7 billion annually.\9\ For this 
study, the primary exposure route was through dermal contact and 
accidental ingestion of polluted water during water recreation. 
However, bacteria and industrial chemicals in areas chronically 
polluted with high levels of sewage and industrial discharges, such as 
coastal waters near the Tijuana River Watershed at the U.S./Mexico 
border, can become aerosolized in sea spray, reducing air quality and 
causing an additional exposure route through inhalation, further 
threatening public health.\10\
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    This area of chronic coastal pollution in South San Diego County 
along the U.S./Mexico border is important for our second ask of 
elevated funding for the Border Water Infrastructure Grant Program 
managed by the EPA. Binational flows of polluted water, in part due to 
the insufficient treatment capacity, mechanical failures and neglected 
maintenance of the South Bay International Wastewater Treatment Plant, 
are wreaking havoc on the local community, economy, and environment. 
Since October 2018, the U.S. International Boundary and Water 
Commission has documented the entry of over 148 billion gallons of 
toxic effluent into the United States through the Tijuana River,\11\ 
with 28.2 billion gallons of polluted flows crossing the international 
border since the start of this year.\12\ The southernmost beach in San 
Diego County has been closed for 882 consecutive days and counting. 
Nearby, Imperial Beach has been closed 100 percent of 2024 to date, 
with Silver Strand Beach closed for 96 percent of this year, and world-
renowned Coronado Beach closed for 74 percent of this year as a result 
of these flows.\13\
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    Not only do polluted flows threaten the public health of 
surrounding communities, the Tijuana River pollution crisis undermines 
U.S. national security, affecting Navy SEAL training programs and the 
ability of Border Patrol agents to do their jobs. According to a House 
Report of the Committee on Armed Services that outlines impacts on Navy 
readiness and training, pollution from the Tijuana River caused over 
250 in-water canceled training events in FY2020.\14\ Additionally, 
Border Patrol agents have experienced illnesses from exposure to toxic 
water while performing job duties, including flesh-eating bacteria.\15\
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    Local businesses and economies have also been hit hard and continue 
to suffer due to increasing water and air contamination. The County of 
San Diego, with assistance from the San Diego Regional Chamber of 
Commerce, recently conducted an economic impact study to measure the 
impacts of border pollution on local businesses. Preliminary results 
reveal that 74 percent of local businesses have been negatively 
impacted, 30 percent have laid off staff, 50 percent have lost more 
than $100,000 in revenue, the City of Imperial Beach has experienced 
$1-1.5 million in property tax damage, and the estimated revenue loss 
for tourism is over $500,000 annually.\16\ Some businesses have been 
forced to close, and many residents have lost their livelihoods.
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Cazares, San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce, to the California 
Coastal Commission on October 11 2023: https://cal-span.org/meeting/
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    These economic and public health concerns are why the City of 
Imperial Beach, City of San Diego, and the County of San Diego maintain 
an ongoing State of Local Emergency related to the impacts of cross-
border pollution from the binational Tijuana River. The Tijuana River 
was also recently designated as one of America's most Endangered Rivers 
\17\ due to the severe level of sewage and industrial pollution 
threatening local communities and wildlife. Yet despite national 
attention, toxic flows continue to threaten families, expose Border 
Patrol personnel and impede public access to the coast every day.
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    Progress has been made with Federal funding allocated through the 
United States Mexico Canada Agreement (USMCA) to develop and advance 
the EPA Comprehensive Infrastructure Solution to repair and upgrade 
treatment facilities at the U.S./Mexico Border. The Comprehensive 
Infrastructure Solution is designed to both increase wastewater 
treatment plant capacity and the broader distribution system to be able 
to adequately handle wastewater flows. Once implemented, the 
Comprehensive Infrastructure Solution is estimated to decrease cross-
border flows by 75 percent year-round and reduce beach closures by 95 
percent in summer months.\18\ However, even with the $300 million 
provided from the USMCA, recent funding allocations to the 
International Boundary and Water Commission, and contributions made by 
the Mexican government, there is a several hundred million dollar 
funding gap to fully implement the Comprehensive Infrastructure 
Solution. Funding the EPA Border Water Infrastructure Grant Program at 
the full authorized level of $100 million in FY2025, with the majority 
directed specifically for the Tijuana River Watershed, will help close 
this gap and address the severe public health crisis and military 
preparedness threat occurring at the U.S./Mexico border.
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    Funding the BEACH Act Grants Program at $15 million, which is just 
half of the program's Congressionally authorized level of $30 million, 
would increase the ability of local health departments in coastal 
States and territories across the Nation to test more beaches more 
often and keep the public informed of their local beach water quality 
to prevent against unnecessary yet potentially life threatening water-
borne illnesses. Increasing funding for this program will also help 
agencies continue to identify pollution hot spots and more 
strategically invest in infrastructure upgrade solutions to stop 
pollution at the source.
    Thank you for your consideration of elevating funding for these 
critical water quality and public health programs.

    [This statement was submitted by Katie Day, Senior Manager of 
Science and Policy, Surfrider Foundation.]
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      Prepared Statement of the Swinomish Indian Tribal Community
    On behalf of the Swinomish Indian Tribal Community (Swinomish), I 
am pleased to provide this testimony for the subcommittee as it drafts 
its Fiscal Year 2025 spending bill.
    The Swinomish Tribe is a federally recognized Indian Tribe and 
political successor in interest to certain Tribes and bands that signed 
the 1855 Treaty of Point Elliott which, among other things, reserved 
fishing, hunting and gathering rights and established the Swinomish 
Reservation on Fidalgo Island in Skagit County, Washington. The 
Swinomish Reservation sits at the mouth of the Skagit River, the 
largest river system draining to Puget Sound and the only river in the 
Lower 48 States that still has all species of wild Pacific salmon 
spawning in its waters. Since time immemorial, the Swinomish Tribe and 
its predecessors have occupied and utilized vast areas of land and 
water in northern Puget Sound to support the Swinomish way of life.
    Fish and fish habitat are crucial to the cultural, spiritual, 
subsistence and commercial activities of the Swinomish Tribe, and the 
Tribe exercises Treaty-protected fishing rights in its usual and 
accustomed fishing areas, which include an extensive portion of the 
Salish Sea and the entirety of the Skagit River and its tributaries.
funding increase for behavioral health to address the opioid and mental 
                             health crisis.
    As the subcommittee is aware, the National opioid epidemic 
represents one of the great public health challenges of the modern era 
and nowhere is this more evident than in Indian Country. The opioid/
fentanyl epidemic has disproportionately impacted our community. 
American Indians and Alaska Natives (AI/ANs) in Skagit County 
experience a drug overdose mortality that is almost 3 times higher 
compared to the total population.
    In November 2017, Swinomish became one of the first-if not, the 
first-Indian Tribe in the United States to open its own unique and 
holistic opioid treatment facility. Swinomish constructed the facility 
without using any IHS funds. Swinomish is continuing to be at the 
frontlines of addressing the opioid epidemic both on-reservation and in 
the surrounding local communities. We need access to sufficient and 
flexible resources for prevention, treatment, and recovery to address 
this crisis. We urge the subcommittee to include additional 
appropriations to IHS for substance use disorder and mental health 
programs authorized through Indian Self-Determination and Education 
Assistance Act (ISDEAA) compacts and contracts.
    Swinomish supports the proposed supplemental appropriations request 
for $250 million to support funding for fentanyl and opioid abuse 
prevention, treatment, recovery services, and harm reduction 
interventions. To the extent that the Administration requests $250 
million or other amount of funding for fentanyl and opioid abuse 
prevention in another supplemental request, Swinomish recommends the 
subcommittee to support it, authorize funding through ISDEAA compacts 
and contracts, and urge its enactment into law.
    Swinomish supports the FY 2025 Budget request for a $10 million 
increase to the IHS Alcohol and Substance Abuse Opioid Grant program. 
Although we believe the amount for the Alcohol and Substance Abuse 
appropriations should closer to $50 million to reflect the magnitude of 
the crisis in Indian Country. These grants are intended to support a 
comprehensive response to the opioid epidemic with a specific focus to 
integrate primary care and substance use prevention and treatment 
activities, as well as establish or enhance community-based support 
services.
    We are concerned that distributing the funds through a competitive 
grant process will leave many Tribal communities out. Competitive 
grants are not a long-term solution, and they divert scarce staff 
resources from their regular program duties. This is especially true 
for Tribes like Swinomish that have made significant investments in 
treatment facilities and other infrastructure to combat the opioid 
epidemic. Behavioral health funding must be authorized through ISDEAA 
compacts and contracts to ensure sufficient, recurring, and sustainable 
funding.
  reclassification of funding for contract support costs and section 
        105(l) leases from discretionary spending to mandatory.
    All Federal Indian agencies and programs should be classified as 
mandatory funding to meet the Federal treaty and trust responsibility, 
while decreasing the chronic underfunding and inequity. Both contract 
support costs (CSC) and Section 105(l) leases are vital appropriations 
in addressing historical underfunding of facility and administrative 
costs. Separate indefinite funding for CSC and Section 105(l) leases 
has contributed to the lack of unintended program funding increases and 
reductions. Swinomish urges the subcommittee to include the FY 2025 
Budget request for reclassification of CSC and Section 105(l) leases 
from discretionary to mandatory spending.
 $2 million for the swinomish and skagit valley college dental therapy 
                           education program
    Our dental therapists have broken the cycle of historically poor, 
traumatic dental care provided by part-time traveling dentists who 
would drill and extract in a broken-down and unsanitary trailer that 
became known for pain and suffering. In September 2022, Swinomish, in 
partnership with Skagit Valley College developed the first Dental 
Therapy Education Program in Washington accredited by the Commission on 
Dental Accreditation. The Dental Therapy Education program will address 
the on-going oral health workforce disparities among American Indian 
and Alaska Native communities across the country. Swinomish requests 
the subcommittee to increase funding under IHS for $2 million to the 
Swinomish and Skagit Valley College Dental Therapy Education Program.
                    federal power compliance program
    Swinomish strongly supports the Bureau of Indian Affairs' (BIA) 
Federal Power Compliance program (FCP), which is within the Resource 
Management Construction section of the BIA's FY 2025 detailed budget 
justifications. The FCP provides resources to federally recognized 
Indian Tribes to ensure that impacts to Tribal interests and resources 
are sufficiently mitigated in any hydropower license issued by the 
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).
    For years, Swinomish has been an active participant in the City of 
Seattle's FERC relicensing proceeding involving Seattle City Light, 
which is seeking to relicense the Skagit River Hydroelectric Project. 
The Project is a series of three dams that provide approximately 20 
percent of the City of Seattle's power. The proposed license term is 
40-50 years, and the dams will generate billions of dollars of 
electricity value over that timeframe.
    Swinomish has had cultural and natural resources in the Skagit 
River since time immemorial and possesses treaty rights in the entire 
Skagit watershed. Swinomish is working to ensure that any new FERC 
license will provide a substantial financial investment in the Skagit 
River to address the 100 years of cumulative harm that the dams have 
had on the ecology and fishing in the Skagit watershed. Funding from 
the FCP has assisted Swinomish in its ongoing efforts to participate in 
the multi-year Federal relicensing process.
    The FY 2025 Budget Request seeks a modest increase to the FCP, with 
a total proposed budget for the program of $687,000. Given the 
magnitude of the Seattle City Light relicensing proceeding, Swinomish 
urges the subcommittee to fund the FCP at the $1 million level in FY 
2025, which would allow for more resources for Tribes to protect their 
interests in FERC proceedings.
                            law enforcement
    Like most Indian Tribes, Swinomish needs additional resources to 
assist with the recruitment and retention of experienced law 
enforcement officers, especially in a time when fentanyl-related 
activity is epidemic in many Tribal communities. Swinomish experienced 
challenges retaining officers and officer turnover because neighboring 
jurisdictions offer more competitive pay and benefits. This competition 
has been amplified by the shortage of officers in Washington state and 
the recruiting efforts of neighboring jurisdictions.
    In FY 2024, most BIA law enforcement programs received level 
funding compared to the FY 2023 enacted levels. The FY 2025 Budget 
Request seeks a $45.5 million increase in Criminal Investigations and 
Police Services, with $33.5 million specifically allocated to increase 
the number of officers and investigators in Indian Country. Swinomish 
requests that the subcommittee fund the Criminal Investigations and 
Police Services account to at least the FY 2025 requested levels.
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide our recommendations on the 
subcommittee's FY 2025 Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
spending bill. Please feel free to contact me with any questions.

    [This statement was submitted by Steve Edwards, Chairman, Swinomish 
Indian Senate, Swinomish Indian Tribal Community.]
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           Prepared Statement of Theatre Communications Group
    Mr. Chairman and distinguished members of the subcommittee, Theatre 
Communications Group-the national service organization for the American 
theatre-is grateful for this opportunity to submit testimony on behalf 
of our over 500 not-for-profit member theatres across the country and 
the approximately 10.4 million audience members that the not-for-profit 
theatre community served in 2022. We urge you to support the National 
Endowment for the Arts (NEA) appropriations in the FY 2025 Interior 
Appropriations bill to no less than $211 million, in order to broaden 
access to the cultural, educational, and economic benefits of the arts 
and to advance creativity and innovation in communities across the 
United States.
    The entire not-for-profit arts industry has a history of 
stimulating the economy, creating jobs, and attracting tourism dollars. 
Prior to the pandemic, the not-for-profit arts generated $166.3 billion 
annually in economic activity, supported 4.6 million jobs, and returned 
$27.5 billion in government revenue.
    The arts sector is an economic engine which uplifts, engages, 
educates, and innovates. The NEA can help leverage the arts sector to 
play a key role in the work to contribute to the American economy. The 
arts sector is also a powerful conduit for bridging and healing deep 
divisions. The NEA has a role in redressing systemic injustice-
including long-time inequities in arts funding, as well as a lack of 
appreciation for creativity from all cultures. The NEA's role is to 
make sure all Americans have access to the arts no matter where they 
live. Among the NEA's accomplishments is the growth of arts activity in 
areas of the Nation that have been under-resourced, especially in rural 
and inner-city communities. In many communities, NEA grants support 
free performances, as well as reduced ticket prices for those who 
cannot afford to buy a ticket. A significant percentage of grants 
benefit those who have fewer opportunities to participate in the arts.
    Federal funding for the arts creates a significant return, 
generating nine dollars in matching funds for each Federal dollar 
awarded, and is clearly an investment in the economic health of 
America. At this time of financial stress and economic uncertainty, 
increased Federal funding is essential. The not-for-profit sector will 
need sustained support to recover, rebuild, and be able to fully return 
to serving communities.
    Our country's not-for-profit theatres present new and classical 
works and serve as catalysts for economic growth in their local 
communities. These theatres also nurture and provide artistic homes for 
the development of the current and future generations of acclaimed 
writers, actors, directors, and designers working in regional theatre, 
on Broadway, and in the film and television industries. Our theatres 
develop innovative educational activities and outreach programs, and 
before the pandemic provided millions of young people, including ``at-
risk'' youth, with important skills for the future by expanding their 
creativity and developing problem-solving, reasoning, and communication 
abilities-preparing today's students to become tomorrow's citizens. At 
the same time, theatres have become increasingly responsive to their 
communities, serving as healing forces in difficult times and producing 
work that reflects and celebrates the strength of our Nation's 
diversity.

    Here are some recent examples of NEA grants and their community 
impact:

    Arizona Theatre Company in Tucson, AZ received a $15,000 grant to 
support staff salaries and artist fees for a playwrights festival. 
Intended to serve Latine playwrights, the festival will serve as an 
incubator for new theatrical works. Playwrights will have opportunities 
to workshop new scripts with directors, dramaturgs, and actors. Each 
play will receive staged readings for public audiences. The festival 
will benefit theatre artists and audiences in Arizona.
    Perseverance Theatre in Alaska received a $40,000 NEA grant to 
support the development and world premiere production of Cold Case by 
Cathy Tagnak Rexford. Exploring the issue of missing and murdered 
Indigenous women in Alaska, prior to the production, the play will 
receive a workshop focusing on translation, pronunciation, and use of 
the Inupiatun language in the play. The production will serve theatre 
artists and audiences in Douglas, Alaska, while the Nationwide theatre 
field will benefit from the creation of new work.
    Portland Playhouse in Portland, Oregon, received a $30,000 grant to 
support the production of Notes from the Field by Anna Deavere Smith 
and related engagement activities. Based on interviews Deavere Smith 
conducted with students, parents, and teachers, the play explores 
school disciplinary practices that drive children into the juvenile and 
criminal justice systems, instances of police brutality, economic 
despair, and the history of the civil rights movement. The playhouse 
also will program conversations about the play's themes facilitated by 
community partners who work with school districts, courts, and prisons. 
The project will serve theatre artists and audiences in the greater 
Portland, Oregon area.
    Trinity Repertory Company in Providence, RI, received a $15,000 NEA 
grant to support the world premiere production of La Broa' (Broad 
Street) by Orlando Hernandez, based on the book Nuestras Raices by 
Marta V. Martinez. Martinez's book turns a collection of oral histories 
into a fascinating story of the birth of Rhode Island's vibrant Latino 
community. The play will map the past, present, and future of Latino 
communities, showing how places transform over time through the 
circumstances and decisions of people often left out of history books. 
During the production, audiences will be invited into an immersive 
environment where the actors and musicians will perform all around 
them. The production will serve theatre artists and audiences across 
Rhode Island.
    These are only a handful of examples of the kinds of extraordinary 
programs supported by the National Endowment for the Arts. In terms of 
pre-pandemic annual appropriations, the Endowment's Theatre Program was 
able to fund only 60% of the applications it receives, so 40% of 
applying theatres were typically turned away-in part because available 
funds have remained insufficient. Indeed, the NEA was able to fund only 
7% of the eligible applicants through its American Rescue Plan program, 
further illustrating the unmet need for Endowment funding. Theatres 
were among the first to close and the last to reopen, and the financial 
consequences have been severe. The need across the arts field remains 
drastic.
    The arts infrastructure of the United States is critical to the 
Nation's well-being and economic vitality. Restaurants and hotels, 
along with other businesses, often depend upon the theatres and other 
arts organizations in their communities and the success of these 
sectors is intertwined. The arts community is supported by a remarkable 
combination of government, business, foundation, and individual donors 
and represents a striking example of federal/state/private partnership. 
Federal support for the arts provides a measure of stability for arts 
programs nationwide and is critical at a time when other sources of 
funding are diminished.
    Theatres work hard to serve their communities and maintain 
connection with audiences through performances and education offerings. 
Audiences have still not returned to pre-pandemic levels and costs 
continue to rise dramatically, and so theatres are still trying to 
manage the financial consequences of the impact of COVID-19 which we 
anticipate will be felt for several more years.
    The NEA's FY 2024 budget is $207 million. We thank the subcommittee 
for its leadership in supporting the work of the NEA. Theatre 
Communications Group urges you to support the largest possible increase 
for FY25 for the NEA, at no less than $211 million to maintain citizen 
access to the cultural, educational, and economic benefits of the arts; 
to advance creativity and innovation in communities across the United 
States; to restore the theatre sector beyond disaster relief, and 
toward ongoing recovery and service to communities. Please invest in 
the arts at a level that reflects the significant role the arts play in 
our society.
    Thank you for considering this request.

    [This statement was submitted by Laurie Baskin, Director of 
Advocacy, Theatre Communications Group.]
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   Prepared Statement of Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership
    The following is written testimony submitted by Alexander Funk, 
Director of Water Resources, with the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation 
Partnership. The testimony is for the subcommittee on Interior, 
Environment, and Related Agencies. The testimony regards an FY25 
appropriations request for the Bureau of Land Management's Aquatic 
Resources Program.
    The undersigned organizations support increased funding for the 
Bureau of Land Management's Aquatic Resources Program as part of the 
FY25 Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations 
legislation. Specifically, our organizations request $65 million for 
FY25 to increase the pace and scale of watershed restoration and 
conservation efforts to increase drought and wildfire resilience, 
support local communities, and secure reliable water supplies on 
America's public lands. Such investments will help these landscapes 
more reliably yield benefits in water residency times, water quality, 
habitat for terrestrial and aquatic species, recreation, rangeland 
health and forage, and carbon sequestration.
    The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) plays a critical role in 
stewarding the Nation's water resources. The agency manages over 
250,000 miles of streams and rivers, which provide drinking water to 
one in 10 Americans in the West. Its aquatic resources are among the 
Nation's most important and diverse, providing sustained value to the 
American public. Increasing support for BLM's aquatic resource 
management efforts is critical to providing reliable water supplies and 
conserving the economic benefits communities rely upon.
    A key focus of the BLM's Aquatic Resources Program is to conserve 
and restore watershed health. Unfortunately, in many watersheds with 
BLM-managed lands, stream channels are carved into deep trenches and/or 
disconnected from their floodplains, diminishing the benefits described 
above and ultimately creating landscapes and communities that are even 
more vulnerable to drought and other negative impacts of climate 
change. Through strategic restoration investments, we can reconnect 
streams to their floodplains to restore many of the benefits that have 
been lost over time. Such investments can raise the groundwater table 
and refill aquifers. This can maintain green vegetation later in the 
year, reducing wildfire burn severity and increasing late-season water 
availability for both wildlife and water users. Within arid and semi-
arid landscapes, restored wet meadows provide essential food and cover 
for wildlife such as sage grouse, elk, mule deer, and pronghorn. These 
areas can also provide forage for livestock. Protected and restored 
streams and their wetlands have also been shown to serve as fire breaks 
and filter out ash and sediment after fires thus protecting downstream 
water infrastructure.
    In addition to enhancing the benefits of our watersheds, BLM's 
Aquatic Resources Program supports other important initiatives such as 
restoring fish passage, preventing and controlling the spread of 
aquatic invasive species and managing some of the country's best 
remaining healthy rivers, including many that are designated Wild and 
Scenic Rivers. Finally, BLM's Aquatic Resources Program supports 
education and outreach through programs such as Project Healing Waters 
Fly Fishing, which seeks to rehabilitate the physical and emotional 
well-being of disabled veterans and underrepresented communities.
                        report language request
    We recommend in the Committee's report associated with the bill 
making appropriations for the Department of the Interior, environment, 
and related agencies that the following language be included in the 
``Department of the Interior'' title under the ``Bureau of Land 
Management'' header, for the ``Management of Lands and Resources'' 
account:
    ``Aquatic Resources.--The Committee recognizes that the Bureau of 
Land Management plays a critical role in stewarding the Nation's water 
resources. Aquatic resources on public lands managed by the Bureau of 
Land Management are among the most important, productive, and diverse 
resources in the Nation, providing sustained value to the American 
public. The Committee recommends $65,000,000, which includes program 
increases of $6,700,000 for building capacity and supporting 
partnerships with Tribes, States, and local governments to advance 
natural and cultural resource conservation and protection, and 
$2,383,000 for improving water resources. Of the amount allocated to 
build capacity, the Committee recommends $3,000,000 be used to hire 
aquatic restoration staff and at least one fisheries biologist or 
hydrologist in each Bureau District and Field Office to support the 
protection, management, and restoration of freshwater resources for 
drought, wildfire, and flood resilience; $1,500,000 be used to train 
Bureau staff and partners to manage, protect, and restore freshwater 
resources and build a restoration workforce; and $2,200,000 be used to 
support project implementation.''
    Bolstering the Aquatic Resources Program's annual budget will 
provide critical resources to support the BLM Aquatic Resources Program 
in the following ways:

  --Increase capacity, including resources to hire at least one 
        fisheries biologist and hydrologist in each BLM field office to 
        support the development and implementation of watershed 
        restoration and conservation efforts and support the 
        integration of aquatic restoration efforts across other BLM 
        programs, including wildland fire management.

  --Develop and offer training and workshops to build their capacity 
        and that of their partners to increase drought, wildfire, and 
        flood resilience.

    Overall, supporting the BLM's Aquatic Resources Program is a sound 
investment in enhancing our Nation's resilience to drought and wildfire 
while supporting fish and wildlife. Our organizations thank you for 
your consideration and are happy to answer any questions regarding 
these requests.

Sincerely,

Alexander Funk
Director of Water Resources
Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

Sara Porterfield
Western Water Policy Advisor
Trout Unlimited

Fay Hartman
Conservation Director, Southwest Region
American Rivers

Tom Cors
Senior Director Legislative Affairs
The Nature Conservancy

Alicia Marrs
Director of Western Water
National Wildlife Federation

Amy McNamara
Freshwater Ecosystems Strategist
Natural Resources Defense Council

Zachary Wurtzebach
U.S. Program Director
Center for Large Landscape Conservation

    [This statement was submitted by Alexander Funk, Director of Water 
Resources, Theodore Roosevelt Conservation.]
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         Prepared Statement of United South and Eastern Tribes
    Chairman Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and members of the 
subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify regarding our 
funding priorities for Fiscal Year (FY) 2025. The testimony of United 
South and Eastern Tribes (USET SPF) will focus on funding for Federal 
Indian agencies and programs at the Department of the Interior (DOI), 
the Indian Health Service (IHS), and beyond. We appreciate the 
opportunity to provide our views on the President's Request. This is an 
important oversight opportunity for appropriators to ensure that budget 
proposals reflect Tribal expectations and objectives.
    USET SPF is a non-profit, inter-Tribal organization advocating on 
behalf of thirty-three (33) federally recognized Tribal Nations from 
the Northeastern Woodlands to the Everglades and across the Gulf of 
Mexico. USET SPF member Tribal Nations are within the Eastern Region 
and Southern Plains Region of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and 
the Nashville Area of the Indian Health Service (IHS), covering a large 
expanse of land compared to other regions. Due, in part, to this large 
geographic area, USET SPF Tribal Nations have great diversity in 
cultural traditions, land holdings, and resources.
    Chronic Underfunding of Existing Obligations. We provide this 
testimony on the heels of yet another infusion of nearly $100 billion 
in Federal funding to several allies overseas. Since February of 2022, 
Ukraine, alone, has received over $135 billion while Tribal Nations 
have received far less. Though USET SPF does not dispute the necessity 
of this aid, it is a frustrating reminder that when Congress feels 
compelled to do so, it can direct substantial government resources 
toward other units of government--both foreign and domestic. And yet, 
Tribal Nations must appear before Congress year after year to advocate 
for U.S. payment on debt that we are due-only to receive minor 
``increases'' that fail to address the chronic underfunding of trust 
and treaty obligations and, often, fail to keep pace even with 
inflation.
    USET SPF, our partner organizations, Federal entities, and various 
research bodies have consistently provided data necessary for the U.S. 
to understand its own shortfalls in delivering upon its obligations to 
Tribal Nations, with little action taken in response. For example, the 
most recent annual Tribal Law and Order Act Report to Congress, for FY 
2021, revealed the total obligation of BIA for public safety and 
justice funding is $3.5 billion--over one billion more than the entire 
BIA budget. And yet, in FY 2024, Congress allocated a total of just 
$556 million to the BIA's public safety and justice lines-a decrease 
from FY 2023 enacted. It is no wonder, then, that in its 2018 Broken 
Promises Report, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights concluded that the 
funding of Federal trust and treaty obligations remains ``grossly 
inadequate'' and a ``barely perceptible and decreasing percentage of 
agency budgets.'' The report confirms what we in Indian Country already 
know-with the exception of some minor improvements, the U.S. continues 
to neglect to meet its ``most basic'' obligations to Tribal Nations. 
Though these chronic failures have persisted throughout changes in 
Administration and Congress, it is time that both branches confront and 
correct them.
    As the subcommittee is well aware, Native people have endured many 
injustices as a result of Federal law and policy, including Federal 
actions that sought to terminate Tribal Nations, assimilate our people, 
and erode Tribal territories, learning, and cultures. This story 
involves the cession of vast land holdings and natural resources, 
oftentimes by force, to the U.S., out of which grew an obligation to 
provide benefits and services to Tribal Nations-promises made that 
exist in perpetuity. These resources are the very foundation of this 
nation, allowing the U.S. to become the wealthiest and strongest world 
power in history, with each U.S. citizen a direct beneficiary of this 
exchange. Federal funding and services to Tribal Nations and Native 
people are simply a repayment on this perpetual debt. Regrettably, 
funding allocated to Indian Country represents a tiny fraction of the 
annual value that the U.S. enjoys from the lands and natural resources 
which once belonged to us. USET SPF has consistently called upon the 
U.S. to fulfill its sacred promises to Tribal Nations and to act with 
honor and integrity in its dealings with Indian Country.
    While we take a firm position that all members of Congress have an 
obligation to Tribal Nations, this subcommittee has a greater role in 
working toward fulfillment of trust and treaty obligations. As leaders 
who have consistently demonstrated a deeper understanding of our sacred 
relationship, we urge you to lead the change within Congress to improve 
how the U.S. views, honors, and fulfills its promises to Indian 
Country. The Federal budget is a reflection of this commitment. We ask 
that you always remember this nation's first promise to its First 
People-the promise that resulted in an exchange responsible for the 
vast wealth, power, and influence of this country. This is especially 
critical as we recognize you are working with statutory spending caps 
in FY 2025 in order to reduce our $34 trillion national debt. However, 
as we have stated repeatedly before this subcommittee and others, 
deficit reduction must never be accomplished to the detriment of 
Federal trust and treaty obligations owed to Tribal Nations.
    Executive Order (EO) 14112. USET SPF is encouraged by the issuance 
of this EO and underscores its importance, as it seeks to address many 
centuries of broken promises through long-sought reforms to the ways in 
which funding is delivered to Tribal Nations and quantify Federal 
failures to provide full funding in fulfillment of trust and treaty 
obligations. USET SPF and the Administration are committed to the 
success of this EO, but Congress also has a role to play. This body, in 
particular, should be invested in seeing the E.O. deliver meaningful, 
actionable information regarding unmet funding obligations, so that 
they may be addressed. Congress should also be prepared to exercise its 
oversight responsibilities in holding Federal agencies accountable to 
the mandates of this EO. Congress should ensure immediate action is 
taken to streamline and create funding flexibilities where barriers are 
administrative or regulatory, and that agencies support Tribal Nations 
in seeking legislative change where barriers are statutory. As we 
continue to face chronic underfunding, these flexibilities are critical 
opportunities to improve services to our people, including expansion of 
477 and self-governance authorities.
    Additionally, Congress should be appropriating necessary resources 
to Federal agencies and exploring opportunities for legislative change, 
in order facilitate compliance with the EO's directives.
    Mandatory Funding for the Indian Health Service and Binding 
Obligations. USET SPF continues to express its gratitude for the 
historic achievement of advance appropriations for IHS. For the very 
first time, the agency's clinical services have experienced budgetary 
certainty in the face of several continuing resolutions. It is our 
expectation that the subcommittee will continue to include language 
providing advance appropriations for IHS beyond FY 2025 and work to 
expand this mechanism through the IHS and into other Federal Indian 
agencies and programs. Despite its importance, however, we continue to 
view advance appropriations as a temporary funding mechanism in our 
overall advocacy for the full delivery of trust and treaty obligations.
    Above all, payments on debt to Indian Country should not be 
vulnerable to year to year ``discretionary'' decisions by 
appropriators. Since FY 2023, the Biden Administration has consistently 
proposed a shift in funding for the IHS to the mandatory side of the 
Federal budget, including a 10-year plan to close funding gaps and an 
exemption from sequestration. While we firmly believe all Indian 
Country funding should be fully funded today, we continue to strongly 
support this proposal, recognizing that additional detail and planning 
is necessary to provide a fully developed plan to fund IHS on a full 
and mandatory basis. This includes ensuring that it reflects the full 
depth of unmet funding obligations as uncovered by E.O. 14112. We look 
forward to working with IHS to draft legislation that reflects our 
guidance for implementing these changes and urge this subcommittee to 
ensure that IHS is working swiftly with Tribal Nations to develop this 
proposal.
    The FY 2025 Request also proposes mandatory funding for Contract 
Support Costs and 105(l) leases-binding obligations-at IHS, BIA and the 
Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) beginning in FY 2026. While we contend 
that all Federal Indian agencies and programs should be subject to 
mandatory funding, we continue to support the immediate transfer of 
these lines. This will ensure that funding increases are able to be 
allocated to service delivery, as opposed to the Federal Government's 
legal obligations.
    Indian Health Service (IHS). In addition to supporting full and 
mandatory funding for IHS, Nashville Area Tribal Nations identified the 
following top six priority line items for increases in FY 2025:

1. Purchased/Referred Care

2. Hospitals & Health Clinics

3. Mental Health

4. Alcohol & Substance Abuse

5. Dental Health

6. Health Care Facilities Construction

    Nashville Area priorities also include funding for Facilities 
Construction and Environmental Health, special initiative funding for 
newly recognized Tribal Nations, increases for Urban Indian Health 
programs, telehealth resources, recurring funding for Public Health 
Education, impacts of COVID-19 on user population and workload data, 
funding for Substance Use Disorder aftercare and housing programs, 
funding to reduce Hepatitis C, continued funding for Community Health 
Representatives, modernizing health IT, parity when sponsoring patients 
on insurance plans, funding for long-term care services and supports, 
and provider/staffing recruitment and retention.
    Special Behavioral Health Program. Despite the disproportionate 
impact opioid and other substance use has had in Indian Country, Tribal 
Nations continue to lack access to sufficient resources to address the 
damaging effects of substance abuse disorder in our communities. We 
continue to support legislative proposals that would establish a 
Special Behavioral Health Program for Indians at IHS, with dollars 
eligible for receipt through self- governance compacting and self-
determination contracting.
    Department of the Interior (DOI). Working in partnership with 
Indian Affairs, the yearly budget formulation process now offers a much 
more comprehensive look at the priorities of Tribal Nations across the 
many lines found within the BIA and BIE budgets. However, we remain 
focused on the addition of a component outlining BIA's unfunded 
obligations in order to measure how well the U.S. is honoring its 
promises, on which Indian Affairs recently agreed to collaborate. This 
body should also want to know the full extent of DOI's unmet funding 
obligations to Indian Country. In addition, we offer the Eastern 
Region's top priorities for FY 2025 in eight different strategic 
funding categories:

  --Strengthening Tribal Communities: Social Services (TPA)

  --Trust-Natural Resources Management: Natural Resources (TPA)

  --Trust-Land & Water Rights Management: Trust Services (TPA)

  --Public Safety & Justice: Tribal Courts (TPA)

  --Economic Development: Economic Development (TPA)

  --Education: Scholarships & Adult Education (TPA)

  --Construction: Education Facilities Improvement and Repair

  --Resource Management Construction: Federal Power Compliance (FERC)

    Payments in Lieu of Taxes (PILT). In addition to the above 
priorities, USET SPF remains focused on the restoration of Tribal 
homelands as a top priority and would like to reiterate a funding 
request that we believe will increase the amount of land going into 
trust for Tribal Nations. Since 1977, the DOI has issued billions in 
PILT to local governments that help offset losses in property taxes due 
to the nontaxable Federal lands within their boundaries. However, while 
PILT payments are made for lands administered by numerous other DOI 
Bureaus, Federal water projects, and some military installations, lands 
held in trust for Tribal Nations are not currently eligible. USET SPF 
believes that PILT for lands put into trust could remove barriers to 
the restoration of Tribal homelands while also easing the perceived 
impacts to local government as a result of lost tax revenue. We urge 
the subcommittee to consider working with the Administration to provide 
funding for this purpose in FY 2025.
    Land and Water Conservation Fund (LCWF) Program for Tribal Nations. 
The FY 2025 Request proposes $8 million for the establishment of a 
permanent LCWF Tribal Land Acquisition program. This will ensure that 
Tribal Nations have direct access to the LCWF for the first time, 
supporting Tribal self-determination and the restoration of our 
homelands. Though we urge that the level of funding be increased, we 
strongly support this proposal.
    Funding for Tribal Historic Preservation. Due to chronic 
underfunding, many Tribal Historic Preservation Offices (THPOs) are 
currently operating without the necessary personnel to conduct National 
Historic Preservation Act Section 106 and other cultural reviews. THPOs 
are the protectors of irreplaceable resources: our cultures and 
spirituality. The explosion in infrastructure development funded by 
recent infrastructure laws is overwhelming THPO capacity. We urge this 
subcommittee to provide increased resources for THPOs, so that we may 
protect our cultural and sacred sites.
    DOI Tribal Resiliency Continuity Program. Due to the structural 
barriers limiting our access to the Homeland Security Grant, we 
strongly urge Congress to appropriate $207 million to establish a 
Tribal Resiliency Continuity Program that is non-competitive, without a 
cost share, and streamlined at DOI to empower all Tribal Nations to 
build core emergency management, homeland security, and emergency 
services capacities and capabilities.
    Preservation of Structural Gains. Several advancements have been 
made during this Administration that must be institutionalized and 
supported in order to continue their progress. USET SPF is requesting 
permanency and dedicated funding for OMB's Tribal Affairs Advisor, as 
well as Treasury's Office of Tribal and Native Affairs. In addition, 
this Administration has once again prioritized the work of the White 
House Council on Native American Affairs (WHCNAA). In order to build 
upon its progress and provide necessary resources to coordinate the 
implementation of EO 14112, WHCNAA requires dedicated funding. USET SPF 
supports the Tribal Interior Budget Council (TIBC) request of $5 
million for WHCNAA.
    Improving the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Crosscut. OMB 
asserts that over $30 billion in Federal dollars is appropriated to 
Indian Country annually. This number seems to be widely inflated, with 
far less actually reaching Tribal Nations and Tribal citizens. Both 
USET SPF and TIBC have asked OMB for a full, detailed accounting of 
Federal funding distributed to Indian Country. While OMB is working to 
refine its Native American Crosscut, we have not yet seen the level of 
detail we are seeking. This information is essential to the measurement 
of the Federal Government's own success in meeting its obligations to 
us, as well as developing accountability mechanisms for instances where 
States fail to provide pass-through funding to Tribal Nations. In order 
to increase accountability, States must be required to detail actual 
dollars passed through to Tribal Nations, with accordant consequences 
for failure to provide us with funding to which we are entitled.
    Invest in and Rebuild Tribal Infrastructure-A Marshall Plan for 
Tribal Nations. For generations, the Federal Government--despite 
abiding trust and treaty obligations--has substantially under-invested 
in Indian Country's infrastructure and engaged in hostile actions 
against Tribal Nations. While the United States faces infrastructure 
issues nationally, Indian Country frequently lacks even basic 
infrastructure. Much like the U.S. investment in the rebuilding 
European nations following World War II via the Marshall Plan, the 
legislative and executive branches should commit to the same level of 
responsibility to rebuilding Tribal Nations, as our current 
circumstances are, in large part, directly attributable to the shameful 
acts and policies of the U.S. In the same way the Marshall Plan 
acknowledged America's debt to European sovereigns and was utilized to 
strengthen our relationships and security abroad, the U.S. should make 
this strategic investment domestically.
    Other Selected Lines and Programs. Though not an exhaustive list, 
USET SPF strongly supports increases for the following lines and 
programs: Good Health and Wellness in Indian Country (CDC), Rural 
Community Facilities (ACF), Tribal Opioid Response Grants (SAMHSA), 
Community Development Financial Institutions Fund grants, the Indian 
Community Development Block Grant, USDA Rural Business Development 
grants, EPA state and Tribal assistance grants, BIA Tribal Climate 
Science Centers, the Crime Victims 's Tribal set aside, and Native 
American Housing Block Grants. Finally, we support an increase to $207 
million for the Tribal Homeland Security Grant program.
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         Prepared Statement of the Water Environment Federation
   fy25 budget recommendations from the water environment federation
    Thank you for the opportunity for the Water Environment Federation 
(WEF) to provide this letter of funding priorities for the FY25 
Interior & Environment Appropriations bill and the FY25 Labor, Health & 
Human Services, and Educations Appropriations bill. WEF\1\ is the 
educational and technical association for over 34,000 water municipal 
wastewater and stormwater professionals, maintaining and improving 
water quality and public health in communities across the country and 
around the world. The FY25 Budget helps address WEF's top policy 
priorities to increase funding for water infrastructure, address water 
workforce development needs, improve resilience to climate change, 
increase system sustainability, protect communities from emerging 
public health concerns, and improve environmental equity for all 
Americans.
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    \1\ The Water Environment Federation (WEF) is a global nonprofit 
organization of water quality professionals. For more than 90 years, 
WEF has provided premier education and the latest technical expertise 
to the water sector. WEF pursues solutions to today's critical water 
sector challenges, including infrastructure funding, water 
affordability, and workforce sustainability and diversity. WEF advances 
innovation and technology and promotes the circular economy through 
water reuse, nutrient recovery, and energy conservation and generation. 
With worldwide members and partners, WEF supports the United Nations 
(UN) Sustainable Development Goals and is a proud partner of UN Water. 
Each year WEF organizes WEFTEC, the world's largest annual water 
quality exhibition and conference. To learn more, visit www.wef.org.
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   fy25 interior and environment appropriations bill recommendations
    It's critical for Congress to include in the FY25 Budget full 
funding for the programs authorized in Infrastructure Investment & Jobs 
Act (IIJA), as well as several additional existing programs. Without 
this funding, communities will struggle to make progress on the local 
water infrastructure investments that are critically needed to protect 
public health and the environment, as well as ensure continued local 
economic prosperity. WEF strongly urges Congress to include in the FY25 
Budget funding for the following programs:

  --$3.25 billion for Clean Water State Revolving Fund (IIJA Sect. 
        50210)

  --$3.25 billion for Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (IIJA Sect. 
        50102)

  --$80 million for Water Infrastructure Finance & Innovation Act 
        (WIFIA) (IIJA Sect. 50215)

  --$280 million for Sewer Overflow and Stormwater Reuse Municipal 
        Grants (OSG) program (IIJA Sect. 50204)

  --$1.6 billion for direct loans under USDA Rural Utilities Service 
        Rural Water and Waste Disposal Program Account (Consolidated 
        Farm and Rural Development Act Sects. 306 & 381E(d)(2))

  --$670 million for grants under USDA Rural Utilities Service Rural 
        Water and Waste Disposal Program Account (Consolidated Farm and 
        Rural Development Act Sects. 306, 306A, 306C, 306D, 306E, 310B, 
        306C(a)(2), 306D, 306E, and 381E(d)(2)

  --$25 million for Clean Water Infrastructure Resiliency and 
        Sustainability Grants (IIJA Sect. 50205)

  --$20 million for Wastewater Energy Efficiency Grant Pilot Program 
        (IIJA Sect. 50202)

  --$40 million for Connection Publicly Owned Treatment Works Grant 
        Program (IIJA Sect. 50209)

  --$10 million for the Small & Medium POTW Circuit Riders Technical 
        Assistance (IIJA Sect. 50206)

  --$5 million for 5 Centers of Excellence for Stormwater Control 
        Infrastructure Technologies (CESCITs) (IIJA Sect. 50217)

  --$10 million for community planning and implementation grants for 
        stormwater or watershed-based planning investments (IIJA Sect. 
        50217)

  --$25 million for the Alternative Source Water Pilot program (IIJA 
        Sect. 50203)

  --$20 million for the Title XVI-WIIN Water Reuse Grants Program

  --$6 million for Water Infrastructure and Workforce Investment Grant 
        Program (IIJA Sect. 50211)

  --Funding to establish the Small Publicly Owned Treatment Works 
        Efficiency Grant Program (IIJA Sect. 50207)

  --$2 million for EPA's Integrated Planning (IP) (33 U.S. Code, Sect. 
        1342(6)(s))
fy25 labor, health & human services, and education appropriations bill 
                            recommendations
    WEF supports the inclusion of additional Emerging Infectious 
Disease funding to support Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's 
(CDC) wastewater surveillance activities. As the President notes in his 
FY25 Budget proposal the Congress, wastewater surveillance demonstrated 
its value as a public health tool during the COVID-19 pandemic by 
providing timely, cost-effective, and unbiased information about 
community disease transmission.
    Since its establishment in September 2020 by CDC, the National 
Wastewater Surveillance System (NWSS) has grown to more than 1,400 
testing sites across 50 States, covering 1 in 3 people in the U.S. 
Through NWSS, CDC weaves together a network of independent, local 
wastewater efforts into a robust national system that has already 
expanded to include mpox virus surveillance. With funding and support 
from CDC, State and local health departments across the U.S. have used 
NWSS SARS-CoV-2 and mpox wastewater information to fill in clinical 
case data gaps, confirm trends observed in other public health 
surveillance datasets, prioritize vaccine distribution, alert 
healthcare providers about expected increases in community 
transmission, and communicate with the public. Many of these health 
departments are already analyzing wastewater for other emerging and re-
emerging health threats, such as antibiotic resistance genes, Candida 
auris, measles virus, and poliovirus. The CDC and state public health 
departments have now begun using NWSS wastewater data to monitor for 
avian influenza A (H5N1) in communities nationwide.
    Securing new base funding for wastewater surveillance will enable 
CDC to ensure equitable application of this tool, sustaining the NWSS 
network as a resilient and adaptable platform for addressing emerging 
infectious diseases in the U.S. To protect the tremendous progress in 
establishing this efficient public health surveillance system, we 
recommend including an additional $130 million annually in Emerging 
Infectious Disease funding to CDC for wastewater surveillance.
  --$130 million for the National Wastewater Surveillance System (NWSS) 
        administered by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Thank you for your support of infrastructure funding and public 
health protection priorities, and we look forward to continuing to work 
with Congress on the FY25 Budget.

Thank you,
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Senior Director, Government Affairs
Water Environment Federation
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       Prepared Statement of the Water Source Protection Program
    As you and your colleagues begin work on the Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 
appropriations bills, we respectfully request that you insert the 
following explicit report language that robustly funds the Water Source 
Protection Program (WSPP) in the Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies bill. The WSPP provides the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) a key 
tool for watershed protection and restoration projects on National 
Forest System (NFS) land.

                ``Vegetation and Watershed Management.--The Committee 
                directs the USFS to utilize not less than $10 million 
                of the Vegetation and Watershed Management budget 
                towards the development and implementation of USFS 
                Water Source Protection Program projects. The Committee 
                recognizes that wildfire risk mitigation and aquatic 
                restoration efforts are critical to protecting the 
                quantity and quality of source water in National Forest 
                System lands that provides drinking water and 
                agricultural use while benefitting fish and wildlife. 
                The Forest Service should maximize its use of provided 
                authorities and funding to protect and restore source 
                watersheds. The Committee encourages the Forest Service 
                to conduct additional outreach to water users to 
                utilize existing vegetation and watershed management 
                funding to demonstrate the value of restoring aquatic 
                ecosystems to build resilience to natural hazards in 
                source watersheds. The Water Source Protection Program 
                provides an important opportunity to increase the pace 
                and scale of source water restoration efforts.''

    NFS lands supply drinking water for nearly 20 percent of the U.S. 
population, and in the Western U.S., 29.5 million people (40 percent of 
the total population) derive more than 50 percent of their surface 
drinking water supply from NFS and adjacent forested lands. Ensuring 
the management of NFS lands and adjacent forests to protect and enhance 
drinking and agricultural water sources is a critical responsibility of 
the USFS, and one that complements USFS priorities of wildfire risk 
reduction and fish and wildlife habitat restoration.
    While the USFS has various programs that may tangentially benefit 
source waters, the WSPP is the sole USFS program that specifically 
focuses on restoring source watersheds relied upon by millions of 
people. WSPP was initially authorized in the 2018 Farm Bill and 
authorized the USFS to enter into partnerships with end-users (e.g., 
municipalities, irrigation districts, and non-governmental 
organizations) to develop and implement source water management plans. 
Despite the critical need for addressing watersheds restoration on NFS 
lands across the country, the WSPP has been underutilized due to lack 
of dedicated funding.
    As your subcommittees make funding decisions for FY 2025, we urge 
you to consider the tremendous benefits of these efforts and public-
private partnerships, such as the WSPP.

    [This statement was submitted by Alexander Funk, Director of Water 
Resources, Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.]
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            Prepared Statement of the WateReuse Association
    Thank you for the opportunity to present our FY 2025 funding 
requests for programs administered by the U.S. Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA). The WateReuse Association (WateReuse) urges you to 
include $25 million for the Pilot Program for Alternative Water Source 
Grants, Section 220 of the Federal Water Pollution Control Act (33 
U.S.C. 1300), in FY 2025 appropriations legislation.
    WateReuse is a not-for-profit trade association for water 
utilities, businesses, industrial and commercial enterprises, non-
profit organizations, and research entities that engage in and on water 
reuse. WateReuse and its state and regional sections represent more 
than 200 water utilities serving over 60 million customers, and over 
300 businesses and organizations across the country. Our mission is to 
advance safe and sustainable water supplies, to promote acceptance and 
support of recycled water, and to advocate for policies and funding 
that increase water reuse.
    In recent years, droughts have brought severe conditions including 
wildfires, heat waves, severely depleted water sources, and reduced 
crop production across the country. Despite rain events, in the West, 
conditions were recently at their driest point in 1,200 years and will 
almost certainly worsen. In parts of Pennsylvania, Illinois, New 
England, and other regions across the country, communities have faced 
significant and even extreme drought conditions.
    As water supply and water quality challenges intensify, the Nation 
must invest in water recycling to build resilience, manage energy 
demands, support public and environmental health, and ensure America's 
economic prosperity. Investments in water recycling ensure reliable and 
resilient community water supplies, support sustainable economic 
development, and help protect our rivers, lakes, streams, aquifers and 
wetlands.
    Water reuse is a long-standing practice in supply-constrained areas 
in the West. However, water reuse is also now common practice in other 
parts of the country, where communities are turning to reuse to 
recharge strained aquifers and meet other needs. The drivers for water 
reuse are many, including stringent discharge regulations and a need to 
reduce pollutant loads to receiving waters. Communities are also 
turning to reuse to manage a range of stormwater challenges.
    To help communities build resilient supplies and protect water 
quality, Congress authorized the Pilot Program for Alternative Water 
Source Grants as part of the recently enacted Infrastructure Investment 
and Jobs Act of 2021. Through the program, EPA will make competitive 
grants to state, interstate, and intrastate water resource development 
agencies to engineer, design, construct, and test alternative water 
source systems, including water reuse systems.
    By investing in the Pilot Program for Alternative Water Source 
Grants, Congress can begin to give communities in all 50 States plus 
the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico the tools and resources they 
need to protect public health and the environment, support economic 
development, and create long-term solutions for future generations.
          examples of water recycling from around the country
    In Virginia's tidewater region, Hampton Roads Sanitation District 
is pursuing a multi-benefit water reuse program called the Sustainable 
Water Initiative for Tomorrow (SWIFT). HRSD's SWIFT project treats 
wastewater effluent to drinking water standards and reuses it to 
recharge the regional aquifer. The investment of $1.1 billion in 
capital outlays provides critical public health, environmental and 
economic benefits by replenishing the overdrawn Potomac Aquifer, 
recharging 100 million gallons per day (MGD) of fresh water at full 
implementation, providing a reliable safe water supply to support the 
region's population and the Nation's critical military assets, and 
generating nutrient credits that HRSD can trade--providing an estimated 
savings of $1.5 billion for 11 counties across the region.
    In Florida's Tampa Bay Region, Hillsborough County's Saltwater 
Intrusion and Aquifer Recharge Program (SHARP) is creating a hydraulic 
barrier to saltwater intrusion between the Bay and the region's 
drinking water aquifer. At a cost of $20 million, SHARP is yielding 
significant climate-resiliency benefits by protecting the region's 
freshwater aquifer from sea level rise and saltwater intrusion, 
reducing pumping costs and energy use by raising groundwater levels and 
increasing pressure in the potable freshwater aquifer, generating water 
supply credits that offset the project's cost, and supporting seagrass 
and fishery recovery efforts by reducing nutrient and other effluent 
loadings.
    In Texas, El Paso Water is using water recycling and saline 
groundwater desalination to produce a drought-resilient, cost-
effective, and reliable water supply to support a vibrant local 
economy. Compared to the next best alternative (importing groundwater), 
El Paso's water reuse program is reducing energy use by 3.6 million MWH 
over the planning period and addressing affordability challenges 
related to imported water by saving more than $1.2 billion, or 74 
percent.
    In California's Chino Basin, local leaders developed the Optimum 
Basin Management Program (OBMP) to address the region's water 
challenges. The OBMP generates energy savings in excess of 5.8 Billion 
kWh over 30 years by relying on local resources rather than energy 
intensive water imports, saves ratepayers an estimated $2.4 billion in 
water supply costs, and restores instream flows and water quality in 
the Santa Ana River, returning a surface water supply and replenishing 
and improving water quality in the Chino Groundwater Basin.

    [This statement was submitted by Greg Fogel, WateReuse 
Association.]
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        Prepared Statement of the Western Governors' Association
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of the 
subcommittee, the Western Governors' Association (WGA) appreciates the 
opportunity to provide written testimony on the appropriations and 
activities of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (FWS), National Park Service (NPS), U.S. Forest 
Service (USFS), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). WGA is an independent organization 
representing the Governors of the 22 westernmost States and 
territories. The Association is an instrument of the Governors for 
bipartisan policy development and collective action on issues of 
critical importance to the western United States.
    The agencies within the subcommittee's jurisdiction wield 
significant influence over vast areas of the American West. Ninety-four 
percent of all Federal lands are located in the western States, and the 
Federal Government owns over 46 percent of the land within WGA States 
and territories. This subcommittee's work is vitally important to 
Western Governors, as it affects public lands management and Federal 
agency interaction with other levels of government and the public.
    There is a natural tension between State and Federal Governments 
that is embedded in the U.S. Constitution. These sovereign governments 
must have a close and productive working relationship to promote 
efficiency and maximize returns on taxpayer investments. Improving the 
partnership between States and territories and the Federal Government 
is central to WGA's mission and is reflected in WGA Policy Resolution 
2024-01, Strengthening the State-Federal Relationship.
    Western Governors were encouraged by past Committee report language 
directing Federal agencies to provide appropriate feedback and decision 
rationale related to Tribal input received via meaningful consultation 
in their decision-making processes. Similar direction to Federal 
agencies for government-to-government consultation with States and 
territories, which is required pursuant to Executive Order 13132, 
Federalism, would improve the co-sovereign relationship between States, 
territories, and the Federal Government.
    Federal agencies should provide state, territorial, local, and 
Tribal government officials with accessible and clear information on 
available Federal resources and programs and the most effective 
utilization of those resources in disaster recovery. WGA has worked 
with Federal partners to improve interagency coordination on post-
wildfire restoration work, including a roadmap of assistance available 
to communities affected by wildfire and identification of 
``navigators'' to help communities prioritize post-wildfire restoration 
needs. Western Governors urge the Federal Government to prioritize the 
funding of these important needs, as they should have a positive effect 
on maximizing the value of restoration work and, more importantly, 
addressing the needs of communities affected by wildfire.
    Reducing wildfire risk also requires conducting active forest 
management at an unprecedented pace and scale. This, in turn, relies on 
a handful of enabling factors including a qualified land management 
workforce and infrastructure to transport and realize the value of 
extracted biomass. Western Governors support many of the 
recommendations in the Wildland Fire Mitigation and Management 
Commission's final report. The Commission called upon Congress to 
provide funding for Federal public health agencies to address smoke-
related impacts of wildland fire, and the Commission also supported the 
creation of incentives for State, local, and Tribal governments to 
invest in the development of fire- and smoke-adapted communities. 
Western Governors appreciate Congress' increased attention to the issue 
as demonstrated in recent years' appropriation acts. Western Governors 
also appreciate USFS's investments in forest health as part of its ten-
year strategy to confront the wildfire crisis, and request continued 
funding for wildfire risk reduction.
    Responsible land management can only occur when federal, State, and 
local stakeholders collaborate to improve the health and resilience of 
our lands. Likewise, proactive fish and wildlife conservation is most 
effective when leveraging the cooperative efforts of state, territorial 
and Federal officials across multiple disciplines. To this end, Western 
Governors support funding for reasonable proactive management efforts 
to conserve species, including engaging stakeholders to implement 
early, voluntary conservation measures. WGA also believes Federal 
agencies should explore revised Government Schedule criteria and use 
detail positions and shared staff between nongovernmental partners, and 
State and Federal agencies to increase interagency coordination.
    States possess primary management authority over fish and wildlife 
within their borders, and they receive economic benefits associated 
with healthy species and ecosystems. At the same time, species listings 
can dramatically affect the efforts of western States to promote 
economic development, accommodate population growth, and maintain and 
expand infrastructure. Western Governors believe that States should be 
full partners in listing, critical habitat designations, recovery 
planning, recovery efforts, and delisting decisions. State agencies 
often have the best available science, expertise, and other scientific 
and institutional resources such as mapping capabilities, biological 
inventories, biological management goals, state wildlife action plans, 
and other important data, and Federal agencies should utilize state 
expertise and resources whenever possible All listing, recovery, and 
delisting decisions made by the Federal Government should utilize 
objective, peer-reviewed scientific literature and scientific 
observations.
    Fish and wildlife migration corridors and habitat are necessary to 
maintain healthy populations of species in the West. Western Governors 
applaud the past funding for Federal agencies to advance state-
supported programs and projects promoting voluntary migration corridor 
and habitat conservation and request that the subcommittee continue to 
appropriate these funds. The Governors note that any Federal efforts to 
identify, regulate, or conserve wildlife migration corridors through 
administrative or legislative action must involve coordination and 
consultation with States and should advance voluntary, incentive-based, 
and locally driven initiatives to conserve key wildlife corridors and 
habitat.
    Western Governors encourage the subcommittee to include full 
funding for the Payment in Lieu of Taxes (PILT) program administered by 
the Department of the Interior, and include language that addresses a 
permanent and stable funding mechanism for the program. PILT funding 
does not represent a gift to local jurisdictions; rather, it provides 
important compensation for the presence of non-taxable Federal lands in 
the West. Similarly, payments under the Secure Rural Schools and 
Community Self-Determination Act (SRS) compensate communities whose 
timber industries have been negatively affected by actions and 
acquisitions of the Federal Government. Western Governors request that 
the subcommittee continue to appropriate full funding annually for both 
PILT and SRS now and in the future.
    Western Governors support NPS in its efforts to preserve iconic 
landscapes, habitats and cultural resources. Western Governors are 
concerned, however, about the significant maintenance backlog affecting 
National Parks, especially in the context of increasing visitation 
rates. Western Governors appreciate recent investments in maintenance 
for national park infrastructure and additional actions that prevent 
future backlogs. Similarly, Western Governors urge Congress to extend 
funding for the National Parks and Public Land Legacy Restoration Fund 
beyond 2025 and examine longer term solutions to the deferred 
maintenance backlog.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (Pub. L. 117-58) has 
been a significant piece of legislation for western States; however, 
certain provisions remain unfunded. Western Governors specifically note 
that Section 40704 authorized an abandoned hardrock mine reclamation 
program. The Governors were encouraged by the $5 million appropriation 
for the program in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2022 (Pub. L 
117-103), but more substantial investment is required to address the 
tens of thousands of abandoned hardrock mines that pose physical and 
environmental hazards to communities and ecosystems across the West. 
Western Governors encourage the subcommittee to ensure Federal land 
management agencies receive adequate funding for staffing so that 
environmental reviews and permitting for abandoned mine projects on 
Federal public lands can be completed in a timely manner.
    Data for water management and drought response planning is critical 
to western States. Western Governors stress the importance of funding 
for the Groundwater and Streamflow Information Program administered by 
the U.S. Geological Survey and request continued funding for the 
program at or above the FY23 level. The data generated by the program 
is integral to water supply management decisions of States, utilities, 
reservoir operators, and farmers. It is also essential for risk 
management, disaster mitigation, and drought and flood forecasting 
throughout the West.
    Infrastructure management is another crucial element of water 
resource management, and Federal investments in our Nation's aging 
water and wastewater facilities are essential to our Nation's continued 
economic prosperity and environmental protection. EPA's Clean Water and 
Drinking Water State Revolving Funds (SRFs) provide necessary support 
for communities to maintain and enhance their water infrastructure. WGA 
Policy Resolution 2021-10, Water Quality in the West, encourages 
adequate funding for SRFs. Western Governors appreciate the SRF 
provisions included in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and 
previous years' appropriations acts, and encourage the subcommittee to 
continue supporting these programs. Western Governors also support the 
funding of Federal programs that promote non-federal water 
infrastructure investment, such as the Water Infrastructure Finance 
Innovation Act program. This important program provides flexible long-
term, low-cost supplemental credit assistance for projects of national 
and regional significance.
    States have exclusive authority over the allocation and 
administration of rights to groundwater located within their borders 
and are primarily responsible for protecting, managing, and otherwise 
controlling the resource. The regulatory reach of the Federal 
Government was not intended to, and should not, be applied to the 
management and control of groundwater resources. Western Governors 
encourage Congress to include express and unambiguous language 
protecting States' authority over groundwater resources in any water-
related legislation, as well as clear direction to administrative 
agencies to respect such authority. Federal agencies should also work 
within existing State authorities to address their groundwater-related 
needs and concerns. Western Governors urge the subcommittee to ensure 
that Federal efforts involving groundwater recognize and respect state 
primacy and comply with all statutory authorities.
    States also possess delegated authority from EPA to manage air 
quality within their borders. Congress and EPA should recognize state 
authority under the Clean Air Act (CAA) and accord States sufficient 
flexibility to create air quality and emissions programs tailored to 
individual state needs, industries, and economies. State CAA programs 
require financial support from Congress, yet funding has declined since 
the CAA's enactment. In addition, given the unique character of the 
West and the region's attainment challenges, funding should be 
appropriated for EPA to assist western States in research on 
background, interstate, and transported ozone. This is especially 
important as smoke from an increasing number of wildfires causes air 
quality to exceed the National Ambient Air Quality Standards for 
particulate matter and ozone, affecting public health, safety, and 
transportation. Western Governors' support full and consistent funding 
for Federal and State land managers to conduct prescribed fires and 
smoke management in order to protect public health alongside forest 
health.
    The Missing and Murdered Indigenous Persons (MMIP) crisis continues 
to affect communities across the West. Sufficient Tribal and BIA law 
enforcement personnel ensure timely responses and adequate resources 
for MMIP cases, while victim support services provide crucial 
assistance to survivors and their families. Western Governors support 
funding to increase the number of Tribal officers and victim services 
advocates, as well as the pace of hiring officers.
    Western Governors and Federal land management agencies deal with a 
complex web of interrelated natural resource issues. It is an enormous 
challenge to judiciously balance competing needs in this environment, 
and Western Governors appreciate the difficulty of the decisions this 
subcommittee must make. The foregoing recommendations are offered in a 
spirit of cooperation and respect, and WGA is prepared to assist the 
subcommittee in discharging these critical and challenging 
responsibilities.

    [This statement was submitted by Jack Waldorf, Executive Director, 
Western Governors' Association.]
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        Prepared Statement of Wetlands Program Development Grant
    The following is written testimony submitted by Alexander Funk, 
Director of Water Resources with the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation 
Partnership, for the subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related 
Agencies. It concerns an FY25 appropriations request for the 
Environmental Protection Agency's Wetland Program Development Grant 
Program.
    On behalf of the undersigned sporting and conservation 
organizations, we urge Congress to provide robust funding for the 
Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Wetland Program Development 
Grant (WPDG) Program and encourage EPA to revisit current WPDG guidance 
restricting funding for the implementation of state, Tribal, and local 
wetland conservation programs. As such, our organizations support an 
FY25 appropriations request of $30 million for the WPDG and 
corresponding report language clarifying Congressional intent that WPDG 
funds may be used to support both the development and implementation of 
wetland conservation programs.
    Wetlands provide countless opportunities for outdoor recreation, 
from hunting and fishing, to observing wildlife. Wetlands also provide 
broad public benefits, including erosion control, flood control, 
groundwater recharge, water quality enhancement, and minimization of 
certain wildfire impacts. Recent research shows that the loss of one 
acre of would result in increases in flood insurance costs of 
approximately $800 each year, and more than $3,000 per acre in more 
developed areas. Conservation of wetlands supports economic 
development, sustains fish and wildlife, and significantly reduces 
burdens on taxpayers and communities.
               wetlands program development grant program
    EPA's Wetland Program Development Grant Program provides critical 
funding to state, Tribal, local, and interState agencies to develop and 
refine comprehensive wetland conservation programs, including voluntary 
wetland conservation efforts. WPDG grant funding is divided among EPA's 
headquarters and 10 regional offices, according to the number of States 
and territories per region, providing important resources for capacity 
building efforts taken by State, Tribal, and local governments to 
increase the quantity and quality of wetlands. WPDG funding has been 
utilized by States and Tribes for wetland conservation and restoration 
efforts through the development of Wetland Protection Plans, which 
include wetland mapping and monitoring efforts. These plans and data 
management help inform strategic actions to increase the pace and scale 
of wetland conservation efforts. The Fremont County Soil and Water 
Conservation District in Iowa, for example, received WPDG funding to 
develop a program to support farmers and ranchers in evaluating 
financial incentives for conserving wetlands through conservation 
easements. WPDG program funding has similarly supported a wide range of 
wetland conservation efforts nationwide.
    Oregon has used WPDG funds to develop the Oregon Wetland Program 
Plan (2017 -2021) for their restoration projects and provision of 
technical assistance to landowners participating in their state 
voluntary conservation programs. The Oregon Wetland Program Plan 
provides guidance on statewide efforts to sustainably manage and 
conserve wetlands. Oregon's government agencies and non-profit 
organizations involved have participated in capacity building to 
administer these programs successfully, including developing staff 
training and monitoring protocols to improve program efforts. Oregon's 
wetland mapping efforts and development of methods and tools for site 
assessment have enabled the State's existing voluntary conservations 
programs to effectively utilize changing regulations, policy 
prioritization, and technological advances in implementing their 
mitigation activities and investments. Inter-agency discussions 
resulted in the development of clear guidelines for roles, 
responsibilities, and procedures; and collaboration resulted in 
recommend strategies and policies for salmon recovery and watershed 
restoration. The WPDG Program has also funded Oregon Tribes in their 
water conservation and wetlands restoration projects, including the 
Klamath Tribes and the Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians and 
Umatilla Indian Reservation (CTUIR).
    Maine's Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) Biological 
Monitoring Program hosts invaluable wetland resources for future 
generations and the Maine Wetland Program Plan created interagency work 
groups to identify needed regulatory, management, conservation, 
planning and research measures to address increasing environmental 
threats and cumulative impacts wetlands. WPDG funds contributed to the 
Maine State Wetlands Conservation Plan (2001), which identified 
protection goals for specific wetlands systems of statewide 
significance and allowed for monitoring and assessment efforts critical 
to the development of the Maine Wetland Program Plan 2023-2028. Through 
diverse collection of biological sampling, from locations of high 
quality to locations that were severely degraded, DEP was able to 
capture a broad spectrum of existing human impacts to wetlands. DEP 
also developed the wetland linear discriminant model (LDM) to predict 
potential impacts to wetlands, effectiveness of applicable mitigation 
measures, and ensure compliance with the State's Water Quality 
Standards program.
    The Washington Department of Ecology (Ecology), created in 1970, is 
the principal environmental management agency in Washington with the 
primary goals to prevent pollution, clean up pollution and support 
sustainable communities and natural resources. Under the State Water 
Pollution Control Act, the agency's Shorelands and Environmental 
Assistance Program plays the lead role in protecting wetlands. Ecology 
provides technical assistance and relies on partnerships with other 
government agencies and communities to facilitate the effective 
management of these resources. Ecology engages with their partners by 
reviewing development proposals to ensure proper consideration of 
potential wetland impacts, aid in developing mitigation policies to 
offset unavoidable impacts, and provide support in obtaining funding 
for wetland conservation projects. Through WPDG funding, the 
development of such tools, resources and guidance encourages 
collaboration when establishing the existence (location) and physical 
limits (size) of a wetland in accordance with federal, State, and local 
regulatory standards.
                      fy 25 appropriations request
    Funding under the WPDG program has been flat for more than a 
decade, maintained at approximately $14.5 million per year. When 
adjusted for inflation, FY23 funding levels are at a 22% reduction from 
10 years ago. Increasing funding for wetland conservation efforts can 
help reverse wetland loss trends and help meet the unmet demand for 
wetland conservation, given that all existing Federal wetland programs 
are oversubscribed without enough funding to address the backlog of 
wetland conservation projects seeking funding. Finally, States, local 
governments, and Tribes play an essential role in developing and 
implementing innovative wetland conservation strategies, such as the 
development of wetland ecosystem markets. Through these trading 
programs, wetland ecosystem markets have provided multiple benefits to 
landowners, while reducing water treatment costs for utilities.
    Table 1, EPA Wetlands Grant Programs, includes the appropriations 
enacted from FY22-FY24 and the requested funding for FY25 to allow the 
program to continue fostering collaborative approaches taken by diverse 
applicants to protect and conserve our Nation's wetlands.

                                                           TABLE 1 EPA WETLANDS GRANT PROGRAMS
 
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                                                                                                                                                FY25*
                            Grant                              Statutory     Program       FY22*        FY23*        FY24*     FY25* Admin  Conservation
                                                               Authority       Area                                              Request       Request
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Wetlands Program Development Grants.........................    FWPCA, as  Categorical      $14,192      $14,692      $14,104      $22,000       $30,000
                                                                 amended,      Grants,
                                                              Section 104        State
                                                                   (b)(3)   and Tribal
                                                                            Assistance
                                                                                Grants
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Note: *Funding amounts have been provided in millions.
Eligible recipients include States, Local Governments, Tribes, Interstate Organizations, InterTribal Consortia, Non-Profit Organizations to develop new
  wetland programs or enhance existing programs for the protection, management, and restoration of wetland resources.
Source: EPA FY 2025 Congressional Justification

                        report language request
    Currently, the Environmental Protection Agency interprets WPDG 
funding to be limited to the development of wetland conservation 
programs, although authorization of the Clean Water Act provision 
section 104(b)(3) is silent on whether funds can be used for program 
implementation. Given the limited capacity and resources within state, 
Tribal, and local governments, a lack of implementation support is a 
significant challenge in transitioning from program development to on-
the-ground results. As such, we respectfully request that the following 
report language be included in the FY25 Interior, Environment, and 
Related Agencies appropriations bill.

                ``Categorical Grant: Wetland Program Development 
                Grant.--The Committee recognizes the importance of the 
                Wetland Program Development Grant Program in aiding 
                States, Tribes, and local governments in developing 
                efforts to protect, restore, and manage wetlands and 
                aquatic resources to mitigate the impacts of natural 
                disasters such as flooding, enhancing drinking water 
                quality, and benefiting fish and wildlife. The bill 
                clarifies Congressional intent that funding provided 
                through the Wetland Program Development Grant, 
                authorized through Section 104(b)(3) of the Clean Water 
                Act, can be used to develop new or refine existing 
                State and Tribal wetland and aquatic resource programs, 
                as well as the implementation of these programs.''

    We urge you to prioritize increased funding for wetlands programs 
in the Fiscal Year 2025 appropriations bill. Your support in this 
matter is crucial for safeguarding our wetland ecosystems for future 
generations of hunters, anglers, and conservationists. We look forward 
to discussing these recommendations in further detail in support of 
restoration and conservation funding opportunities.
    Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. Please get in 
touch with Alexander Funk, Director of Water Resources, 
(afunk@trcp.org) or Elle Benson(lbenson@trcp.org), Rio Grande Program 
Manager, at the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership with any 
questions.

Respectfully,

Alexander Funk
Director of Water Resources and Senior Counsel
Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

Marla Stelk
Executive Director
National Association of Wetland Managers

Jim Murphy
Senior Director of Legal Advocacy
National Wildlife Federation

    [This statement was submitted by Alexander Funk, Director of Water 
Resources.]
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              Prepared Statement of the Wilderness Society
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony regarding the 
FY25 Senate Interior Appropriations bill and process. On behalf of our 
one million members and supporters, The Wilderness Society (TWS) 
respectfully urges Congress to sufficiently increase funding for the 
Department of the Interior (DOI) and the US Forest Service (USFS). 
Budget cuts and spending caps from the Fiscal Responsibility Act are 
hindering agency capacity to advance commitments to clean energy 
projects, environmental protections, and environmental justice for all 
our communities. When adequately funded, these agencies create jobs, 
foster climate resilience, save taxpayer money, and mitigate costly 
future harms.
    Congress should support the following priorities to address 
critical programmatic funding needs in any appropriations package/
legislation:
                     bureau of indian affairs (bia)
Tribal Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) FY25 Request: at least 
$8 million

    Tribal Nations and communities continue to highlight barriers to 
accessing LWCF funding with the existing program requirements to 
partner with or apply through States. To strengthen Tribal land 
management, TWS supports significant funding of at least $8 million to 
create a new Tribal LWCF land acquisition program. The new program 
would protect and conserve natural resource areas of cultural 
importance or that have significant recreational benefits for Tribal 
Nations and communities.
                    bureau of land management (blm)

Cultural Resources Account FY25 Request: at least $25 million

    We urge the subcommittee to provide at least $25 million for BLM's 
cultural resources management account to inventory and protect cultural 
resources, manage paleontological resources, and improve government-to-
government consultation with Tribes. We also request the subcommittee 
include $1 million specifically for the National Cultural Resources 
Information Management System (NCRIMS) to support collaboration with 
Western State Historic Preservation Officers to standardize and 
integrate cultural resources data.

National Conservation Lands FY25 Request: at least $78 million

    The National Conservation Lands encompass more than 37 million 
acres of National Monuments, National Conservation Areas (NCAs), the 
National Trails System, and similar designations, as well as Wilderness 
and Wilderness Study Areas (WSAs). Further investment is necessary to 
ensure BLM can properly manage this system of critical landscapes, 
complete and implement resource management plans, and rebuild staffing 
needed to do this work.

Oil & Gas Management and Oversight FY25 Request: $166.9 million, 
including inspection fees

    We support the Administration's request of $166.9 million to 
enhance capacity, perform inspections, and implement long-overdue 
reforms while enabling the continued permitting of renewable energy 
rights-of-way. TWS particularly supports the agency's proposal to 
implement inspection fees pursuant to language proposed in the FY23 
appropriations bill to cover the costs of BLM's inspection activities--
this would better align the onshore program with the offshore program 
and shift the cost burden of these critical inspections from 
communities to industry.

Renewable Energy Management Program FY25 Request: $53.1 million

    BLM is working to increase staffing and capacity to prioritize and 
improve permitting coordination on many utility-scale renewable energy 
projects. BLM's Renewable Energy Program has been critical to 
achieving, and exceeding, the statutory goal of permitting 25 gigawatts 
of renewable energy on public lands by 2025, and full appropriations 
are critical to meeting, and exceeding, the Administration's goal of 
carbon pollution-free by 2035.

Resource Management Planning, Assessment, and Monitoring FY25 Request: 
$71.6 million

    BLM faces a significant backlog of conservation, restoration, and 
planning needs, and about 80% of BLM's existing resource management 
plans (RMPs) are outdated or need revision, including:
    Alaska: BLM's Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act 17(d)(1) Draft 
Environmental Impact Statement highlighted substantial deficiencies in 
the 5 underlying RMPs: Kobuk/Steward, Bay, East, Bering Sea-Western 
Interior, and Ring of Fire. TWS encourages allocating sufficient 
funding and resources for BLM's Alaska Office to undertake a 
programmatic RMP process to correct deficiencies, modernize plans, 
incorporate Indigenous and traditional knowledge, and make this plan 
climate ready.
    High Divide: Idaho and Montana's High Divide is essential for 
maintaining continental-scale wildlife connectivity. With over 4 
million surface acres managed through the Upper Snake, Challis, Salmon, 
Dillon, and Butte Field Offices, this region's land use plans have 
outdated migration data and fail to address wildlife movement, 
connectivity, and landscape intactness. TWS requests $5 million 
additional planning dollars to address habitat connectivity threats and 
initiate preplanning to revise the Upper Snake and Lemhi RMPs and amend 
the Challis, Dillon, and Butte RMPs.
    Nevada: BLM's Nevada State Office needs continued funding to 
successfully modernize Nevada's 12 RMPs through a single Environmental 
Impact Statement. A recent evaluation found planning issues related to 
cultural, ecological, economic, environmental, resource, scenic, and 
social values and uses. We request $15 million be allocated through the 
appropriations process to continue and complete this effort.
                    fish and wildlife service (fws)
National Wildlife Refuge System FY25 Request: at least $602.3 million 
for Operations and Maintenance (O&M)

    The Refuge System is the largest network of public lands and waters 
dedicated to wildlife conservation in the world. However, after a 
decade of underinvestment, inflation, and soaring visitation, $2.2 
billion is needed for O&M. Within that, we request at least $4.9 
million for the Refuge System Conservation Planning line item. 
Comprehensive Conservation Plans (CCPs) are crucial to the purposes of 
each refuge unit yet 60% of refuges lack a current CCP.
                      national park service (nps)
Every Kid Outdoors FY25 Request: $25 million

    Every Kid Outdoors (EKO) provides fourth graders and their families 
with free access to any national park for an entire year, helping 
millions of children build lifelong relationships with their public 
lands. However, the EKO program has never been funded by Congress, 
leaving EKO unable to reach its full potential of reaching all 
families.

Outdoor Recreation Legacy Partnership (ORLP) Program FY25 Request: $125 
million

    Established by Congress in 2014 and funded through LWCF's State and 
Local Assistance Program, ORLP is a national competitive grant program 
that provides funding to urban communities to create new outdoor 
recreation spaces, reinvigorate existing parks, and forge connections 
between people and the outdoors in economically underserved 
communities.

Rivers, Trails, and Conservation Assistance (RTCA) Program FY 24 
Request: $15 million

    The RTCA program helps local communities and public land managers 
develop or restore parks, conservation areas, rivers, and wildlife 
habitats. The program bolsters community-led conservation and 
sustainable outdoor recreation projects.
                        us forest service (usfs)
Capital Improvement and Maintenance--Trails FY25 request: $21.5 million

    Recreational trails are the gateway to a wide range of activities 
in the National Forests System (NFS). Funding the trails program at 
this requested level will help to address the agency's significant 
trial maintenance backlog.

Collaborative Forest Landscape Restoration Program (CFLRP) FY25 
request: $34 million

    The CFLRP successfully prioritizes holistic restoration at the 
landscape scale. Congress should fully fund and expand the CFLRP to 
increase essential science-based forest restoration projects on public 
lands.

Forest Inventory and Analysis (FIA) FY25 request: $32.2 million for 
program; $54.9 million for salary and expenses

    The FIA's scientific knowledge on the current state of the Nation's 
forest is critical to support sound policy and forest management 
decisions. This requested increase reflects the many demands currently 
placed on the program, despite inadequate resources for implementation.

Joint Fire Sciences Program (JFSP) FY25 request: $8 million

    The JFSP is unique among Federal research programs in its focus on 
applied fire science through interagency partnerships. Fire and land 
managers from the Administration identify, with community and 
collaborator input, the most urgent research needs around fire 
management. The JFSP competitively solicits the best proposals, and 
research findings are delivered to fire and land managers and 
practitioners through the JFSP-funded Fire Science Exchange Network. 
The JFSP, with only a modest budget, is highly efficient and effective 
at meeting the needs of fire practitioners.

Land Management Planning, Assessment, and Monitoring FY25 request: $32 
million

    One-third of management plans are over 20 years old and cannot 
provide adequate guidance in the era of climate change and 
unprecedented biodiversity loss. The 2012 planning rule was meant to 
speed up planning, engage communities, provide land designation 
opportunities, promote species recovery, and establish robust 
monitoring programs. Monitoring is essential to enable adaptive 
management in the face of changing conditions, but the NFS rarely has 
the funds needed to conduct adequate monitoring. We ask Congress to 
include report language that ensures 25% of planning funds is devoted 
to monitoring.

Legacy Roads and Trails (LRT) FY25 request: $100 million, including 
salaries and expenses

    The LRT program primarily addresses water quality problems caused 
by USFS' extensive road and trail network, particularly old logging 
roads. Decommissioning unneeded roads, restoring fish passage, and 
providing critically needed maintenance to roads and trails is 
essential to protecting water quality, recreational opportunities, and 
economic benefits in our National forests and adjacent communities. 
Congress should increase funding for ecologically beneficial road 
improvements and decommissioning.

Recreation, Heritage, and Wilderness FY25 request: $94.367 million

    National Forests and Grasslands provide a great diversity of 
recreation opportunities, connecting the American public with nature in 
an unmatched variety of settings and activities. Funding at this level 
will give the agency the resources needed to continue providing these 
opportunities.

Research and Development (R&D) Programs FY25 request: $55 million

    Restoring and maintaining healthy ecosystems across NFS lands 
depends on robust R&D to generate knowledge and technologies that will 
help protect habitat and recover at-risk species. We ask that the 
subcommittee also include report language to encourage funding to focus 
on science foundational to strategies to enhance the resilience of old-
growth and mature forests to climate-induced changes in fire behavior.

Watershed Condition Framework (WCF) and Water Source Protection Plans 
(WSPP) FY25 request: $30 million each

    The WCF identifies and restores priority watersheds across NFS 
lands, and the WSPP encourages watershed restoration partnerships 
between the USFS and downstream water users. Increased funding for WCF 
would allow watersheds that are degraded or at-risk to be returned to a 
properly functioning condition, while also creating well-paying rural 
jobs. USFS also lacks funding to work with willing partners, such as 
water utilities, to fund and implement projects that protect water 
supplies.
        national environmental policy act (nepa) implementation
    We ask the Appropriations Committee to provide funding to ensure 
all agencies adequate capacity to conduct environmental reviews under 
NEPA. We know that, despite widespread claims, NEPA is not the reason 
for permitting delays, and a more inclusive and meaningful 
environmental review process can save time, money, and lead to better 
decisions. It is therefore critical that agencies receive adequate 
resources to staff the positions responsible for shepherding the 
environmental review process.

    [This statement was submitted by Lydia Weiss, Senior Director, 
Government Relations.]
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               Prepared Statement of the Wildlife Society
    The Wildlife Society appreciates the opportunity to provide 
testimony concerning the FY 2025 budgets for the U.S. Geological Survey 
(USGS), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), the Bureau of Land 
Management (BLM), and the U.S. Forest Service (USFS). The Wildlife 
Society inspires, empowers, and enables wildlife professionals to 
sustain wildlife populations and their habitat through science-based 
management and conservation. Founded in 1937, TWS and our network of 
affiliated chapters and sections represents more than 15,000 
professional wildlife biologists, managers, and educators dedicated to 
excellence in wildlife stewardship. As leaders in wildlife science, 
management, and conservation, TWS promotes the use of science in all 
aspects of policy and decision-making. Appropriations for the following 
programs within the jurisdiction of the subcommittee on Interior, 
Environment, and Related Agencies will affect current and future status 
of wildlife and wildlife professionals in North America.

                         FY 2025 Interior Appropriations Requests--The Wildlife Society
 
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                    Agency                                   Program               FY 24 Enacted     FY 25 TWS
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USGS..........................................  Climate Adaptation Science                63.1 M          69.3 M
                                                 Centers.
                                                Cooperative Research Units......          28.2 M            36 M
                                                National Wildlife Health Center.              --            66 M
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USFWS.........................................  National Wildlife Refuge System.           527 M         602.3 M
                                                State and Tribal Wildlife Grants          72.4 M           100 M
                                                Ecological Services.............         288.3 M         338.2 M
                                                NMBCA...........................             5 M            10 M
                                                Partners for Fish and Wildlife..            59 M          68.1 M
                                                Migratory Bird Joint Ventures...          16.8 M            25 M
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BLM...........................................  Wildlife Habitat Management.....           143 M         153.4 M
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USFS..........................................  Research and Development                    300M         315.6 M
                                                 programs.
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         u.s. geological survey (usgs)--ecosystems mission area
    The Climate Adaptation Science Centers program addresses evolving 
challenges posed by climate change on regional wildlife, ecosystems, 
and community-based stakeholders. Modest budget increases in recent 
fiscal periods have bolstered the program's ability to swiftly respond 
to demands and expand its capacity, facilitating proactive engagement 
of Tribal communities in project design and resource allocation. 
Nevertheless, funding levels have failed to match identified needs, 
especially in equipping USGS with adequate resources to effectively 
convey scientific insights to stakeholders for actionable decision-
making based on project outcomes. For FY 2025, we recommend the full 
realization of the Administration's proposal, reaching no less than 
$69.3 million.
    Located in Madison, WI, the Survey-wide National Wildlife Health 
Center is the sole Federal BSL-3 facility dedicated exclusively to 
scientific inquiry and exploration of wildlife diseases impacting 
human, animal, and environmental welfare. It is the only national 
center dedicated to wildlife disease detection, prevention, and control 
throughout the United States. TWS expresses gratitude to Congress for 
the allocation of $55 million in FY 2021 towards phase one enhancements 
at the Center. However, an estimated $135 million in no-year funding 
remains necessary for comprehensive fulfillment of the project. 
Progress towards modernization is underway at the Center, with 
contracts already awarded for architectural design and environmental 
evaluation. Construction is expected to begin in FY27, making FY25 
appropriations especially timely. TWS advocates for the appropriation 
of at least $66 million for FY 2025, available until fully expended, to 
allow continued modernization of the Center.
    The Cooperative Fish & Wildlife Research Units (CRUs) foster 
federal, state, non-government organization (NGO), and academic 
partnerships to provide actionable science tailored to the needs of 
natural resource managers. This science plays a pivotal role in the 
implementation of State and Federal management decisions. CRUs are an 
exemplary model for cooperative natural resource science programming; 
with the support of collaborators this program leverages an average of 
three dollars in outside funds for every Federal dollar invested. The 
Wildlife Society extends appreciation to appropriators for recognizing 
this critical need and for increased funding allocated in FY 2024. 
Thanks to support from Congress, Indiana was able to establish the 
Indiana Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Unit hosted by Purdue 
University. Despite growing interest from other States, limited Federal 
funding has constrained the expansion of units and continues to result 
in vacancies at existing units. To address this gap, The Wildlife 
Society recommends a funding increase to $36 million in FY 2025, 
enabling CRUs to capitalize on emerging partnerships and fill vacancies 
in an effort to meet long-standing commitments.
                 u.s. fish and wildlife service (usfws)
    With 850 million acres of lands and waters spanning across every 
U.S. state and territory, the National Wildlife Refuge System (NWRS) 
plays a key role in conservation of native species and connects 
Americans to recreation opportunities such as hunting, fishing, hiking, 
and environmental education. The current NWRS Operations and 
Maintenance (O&M) budget fails to meet the needs of native species and 
the American public. In order to effectively conserve species on NWRS 
lands and align with the multiuse goals of the Refuge System, 
significant investments in O&M programming are required. Conservation 
planning, a core O&M subactivity that deals with the creation of multi-
stakeholder Comprehensive Conservation Plans for refuge system units, 
has been chronically underfunded. As a result, 40 percent of these 
congressionally mandated plans are either out of date or do not exist. 
The NWRS has lacked funding to meet their own identified needs in 
bringing diverse audiences into USFWS programming. The Urban Wildlife 
Program, housed under NWRS O&M, seeks to target USFWS investments to 
underserved communities to bolster recreational access and conservation 
outreach. Through the Urban Wildlife Program, and more than 100 refuges 
located less than 25 miles from a city center, NWRS is well-positioned 
to engage diverse constituencies in the conservation of our native 
species. Unfortunately, NWRS is not able to meet these needs given 
currently available funding. TWS urges Congress to consider the 
significant shortcomings of the budget of the National Wildlife Refuge 
System in FY 2025, and provide at least $602 million in funding to 
begin making inroads on adequate visitor services, habitat management 
activities, and long-term conservation planning.
    The State and Tribal Wildlife Grants Program (STWG) is the Nation's 
only program that encourages development and implementation of State 
Wildlife Action Plans. Collectively, STWG funds support strong 
partnerships among federal, state, Tribal, private, and nonprofit 
entities that enable wildlife professionals to implement on-the-ground 
conservation activities that benefit over 12,000 at-risk species, with 
the goal of eliminating the need to list them under the Endangered 
Species Act. In FY 2010, appropriations were at $90 million for the 
program--allowing States to complete more projects deemed necessary for 
monitoring and management of at-risk species. Subsequent budget 
reductions in STWG, however, have not allowed this highly successful 
program to reach its full potential. TWS requests that Congress 
increase funding for the program to at least $100 million annually.
    Through the Ecological Services Program (ESP), USFWS works with 
diverse public and private partners to help identify species facing 
extinction, reduce threats to their populations, and return species 
back to the public trust responsibilities of States and Tribes. 
Wildlife professionals in USFWS are working on new strategies to 
increase efficacy of ESP, though the primary impediment to 
effectiveness remains inadequate funding. To effectively move species 
through all components of the ESA listing and delisting process, TWS 
requests full implementation of the Administration's FY 2025 request of 
no less than $338.2 million for all subactivities.
    Since 2002, the Neotropical Migratory Bird Conservation Act (NMBCA) 
has provided more than $80 million in grants to support 686 projects in 
43 countries. These grants have enabled partner entities and wildlife 
professionals to conserve approximately 400 migratory bird species 
across more than 5 million acres. Moreover, NMBCA has achieved a 
partner match ratio of nearly 4:1 despite requiring only a 3:1 match. 
The needs of U.S. migratory bird species and conservation efforts to 
keep these species common extends to landscapes far beyond U.S. 
borders. As a result, TWS recommends Congress increase funding to no 
less than $10 million in FY 2025 to achieve greater proactive 
conservation results under the NMBCA program.
    Further promoting USFWS' partnership with non-federal stakeholders 
is the Partners for Fish and Wildlife Program. This program allows 
voluntary habitat restoration goals, aligned with identified strategic 
priorities, on private lands to be achieved through cost-efficient 
financial and technical assistance. If adequately funded, this program 
has the potential to serve as a vital tool in implementing private land 
conservation efforts and proactively conserving at-risk species prior 
to reaching the point of Endangered Species Act listing. TWS supports 
an increase in Partners for Fish and Wildlife program funding to no 
less than $68.1 million in FY 2025.
    The Migratory Bird Joint Ventures (MBJV), part of USFWS' Migratory 
Bird Management program, are locally-directed partnerships that develop 
and implement science-based habitat conservation strategies for all 
species of birds across North America. These partnerships have 
leveraged Federal funds at 31:1 to enhance and conserve over 27 million 
acres of avian habitat. The MBJV's Urban Bird Treaties grant program 
supports partnerships to conserve birds in urban environments by 
conserving nearby wetlands and creating parks for local communities to 
learn about wildlife. TWS supports $25 million in FY 2025 for the 
Migratory Bird Joint Ventures to enhance and promote the program's 
highly effective and collaborative partnerships.
                    bureau of land management (blm)
    The Wildlife Habitat Management program maintains and restores 
fish, wildlife, and their habitat across a large portion of America's 
western landscapes. This includes projects to balance effects of 
multiple public land uses, such as energy development and livestock 
grazing, with the needs of native species. This program also includes 
management of approximately 300 listed species under the Endangered 
Species Act. TWS recommends Congress support the Wildlife Habitat 
Management program with no less than the Administration request of 
$153.4 million in FY 2025.
                       u.s. forest service (usfs)
    Research and Development (R&D) programs within the USFS deliver 
science and science-based products that improve the health and 
management of forests and grasslands. These programs assist land 
managers in developing climate change adaptation and resilience 
strategies, recovering from wildfire damages, and protecting watersheds 
and drinking waters. Increased funding for R&D programs is needed to 
achieve objectives such as better understanding ways to reduce 
community exposure to wildfires and improving tools to help land 
managers anticipate and manage for impacts of drought. TWS supports an 
increase in funding levels to $315.6 million for USFS R&D programs to 
ensure the continued delivery of critical new science improving the 
health and use of our Nation's forests and grasslands.

    [This statement was submitted by Ed Arnett, PhD, Chief Executive 
Officer.]
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        Prepared Statement of Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska Tribe
Summary of Budget Requests:

  --Bureau of Indian Affairs--Public Safety & Justice--Criminal 
        Investigations and Police Services

  --Bureau of Indian Affairs--Public Safety & Justice--Detention/
        Corrections

  --Indian Health Service--Mental Health

  --Bureau of Indian Education--Tribal Colleges & Universities

  --Bureau of Indian Education--Tribal Colleges Facilities Improvement 
        & Repair

    Greetings, Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski, and Members of 
the subcommittee on Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies 
(``Subcommittee''). My name is Victoria Kitcheyan and I have the honor 
of serving as Chairwoman of the Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska 
(``Tribe''). Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony on the 
Tribe's funding priorities, within the subcommittee's jurisdiction, for 
Fiscal Year 2025 (``FY25''). My testimony will focus on the need to 
increase funding for the following programs/accounts: Bureau of Indian 
Affairs (``BIA''), Public Safety and Justice (``PS&J''); Indian Health 
Service (``IHS''), Mental Health; and Bureau of Indian Education 
(``BIE''), Tribal Colleges and Universities (``TCUs'').
            increase funding for bia public safety & justice
    Everyone deserves to feel safe in their community, but that is not 
the case on many reservations throughout Indian Country, including the 
Winnebago Reservation. A major factor contributing to this unfortunate 
circumstance is the chronic underfunding of PS&J programs. Released in 
February 2024, the BIA's Office of Justice Services' Report to the 
Congress of Spending Staffing, and Estimated Funding Costs for PS&J 
Programs in Indian Country (``Report'') found that PS&J programs are 
funded at just under 13% of total need and that an additional 25,655 
personnel are required to adequately serve Indian country. The Report 
also stated that the 2021 unmet PS&J need for Indian country was just 
over $3 billion.
    The Tribe supports the Interior Department's request of $651.2 
million for Public Safety and Justice (PS&J) operations, which is an 
increase of $95.7 million above the 2024 enacted level. However, a 
drastic funding increase is needed to fill the vast unmet needs for 
PS&J programs.
              criminal investigations and police services
    To counter the steady decline in policing services, the Tribe has 
been forced to expend limited Tribal resources to perform the BIA's law 
enforcement functions. The Winnebago Tribal Council is doing all we can 
to avoid having a community where criminals feel emboldened and 
Reservation residents feel vulnerable. However, the Federal Government 
must fulfill its responsibilities to the Tribe.
    The BIA law enforcement staffing shortages and the overall 
insufficient level of police services are longstanding issues on the 
Winnebago Reservation. In just the last year, there have been multiple 
times when the BIA Police Department in Winnebago was severely short-
staffed for various reasons, such as positions being left unfilled for 
extended periods, officers detailed to other reservations, and officers 
on administrative or other leave. In September 2023, BIA District I 
detailed the current BIA Chief of Police to another jurisdiction for 
120 days, leaving the Winnebago Reservation vulnerable. There was no 
notice to the Winnebago Tribal Council regarding this decision and 
there was no communication from District I about the rationale. This 
action resulted in one of the existing officers being appointed as the 
acting Chief of Police, and no action to backfill this position.
    This situation was on the heels of the Tribe having to request that 
the acting BIA Chief of Police deputize the Tribe's conservation 
officers due to dangerously low law enforcement coverage on the 
Reservation. As a result of the BIA's failure to provide sufficient law 
enforcement staffing, the Winnebago Police Department has become overly 
reliant on Tribal police officers and Tribal conservation officers. 
These officers, as well as law enforcement support staff, are paid 
entirely from Tribal resources.
    The Tribe supports the Interior Department's request for a $41.9 
million program increase for Criminal Investigations and Police 
Services, which includes $33.5 million specifically targeted to 
increase the number of officers and investigators on the ground in 
Indian Country.
                         detention/corrections
    The lack of adult and juvenile detention facilities at Winnebago is 
further contributing to our serious public safety concerns. The closest 
adult detention facilities are located at the Omaha Tribe's 
Reservation, which is 11 miles away, and Thurston County, which is 20 
miles away. However, the BIA often does not have an active contract 
with those facilities, or those facilities do not have availability. As 
a result, detainees are sent to the closest BIA facility with 
availability. The closest one is the BIA Corrections Yankton Sioux 
Agency in Wagner, SD, which is 122 miles away, and takes over 2 hours 
to travel one way.
    Turning to juvenile detention, the BIA Chief of Police recently 
informed the Tribe that several juvenile detainees would have to be 
housed at the Tribe's Youth Crisis Intervention Center (``Center''). 
The Center is not equipped to provide housing for juveniles who require 
secure detention for extended periods. We are forced to resort to these 
measures because the closest BIA juvenile facility is 450 miles away in 
Standing Rock, North Dakota which is a 7-hour drive from Winnebago.
    The Tribe needs the BIA to do a better job of ensuring that there 
are active contracts with detention facilities near the reservation. 
Therefore, we support the Interior Department's request for a $20 
million increase for Detention and Corrections programs.
       increase funding for indian health service--mental health
    There is a mental health crisis across the Nation, and it is no 
different in Indian Country. However, Tribal members in Indian Country 
who are in crisis often face an additional burden in receiving 
necessary and life-saving treatment outside of the reservation. The 
Tribe's Twelve Clans Unity Hospital is not able to provide the 
necessary treatment for these mental health crises. Therefore, like 
many other rural hospitals and emergency departments, treatment is 
sought elsewhere at locations that are equipped to handle these 
emergency situations.
    The Tribe recently worked to enact legislation in the State of 
Nebraska (``State'') that provides for the recognition of Tribal mental 
health commitment orders and for the transportation of and commitment 
of persons civilly committed under Tribal law. This newly enacted 
Nebraska law will help facilitate critical, timely evaluation and care 
of behavioral health patients; eliminate inefficient jurisdictional 
bottlenecks when attempting to find placement and effectuate timely 
transportation to treatment facilities; and provide for cooperation 
between Tribal and non-Tribal medical facilities and law enforcement 
agencies.
    Now that the State acknowledges Tribal commitment orders, our 
Federal partners can no longer skirt their responsibility to provide 
and bear the financial cost for the healthcare of Tribal individuals as 
the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals (``Eighth Circuit'') has clearly 
laid out in White v. Califano (``Califano''). As a result of that case, 
the Great Plains Area administers an involuntary civil commitment 
program (``Califano Program'') to pay hospital charges for American 
Indians who require involuntary psychiatric hospitalization, usually 
for short stays of one week or less.
    The IHS has stated that the Califano ruling is an exception to the 
IHS policy regarding payment of involuntary commitments and that upon a 
State's request, it will pay for services provided by the state to 
involuntarily committed Indians who reside on reservations, over which 
the state has not assumed civil jurisdiction, but only in those 
midwestern States covered by the Califano decision. Although the 
Califano case applies to the entire 8th circuit, the Winnebago and 
other Tribes in Nebraska have never had access to the funding 
appropriated by Congress in response to this case.
    The Tribe urges the subcommittee to increase funding for Mental 
Health and clarify that all Tribes in the Eighth Circuit are eligible 
for the Califano Program.
            increase funding for bureau of indian education
                     tribal colleges & universities
    Little Priest Tribal College (``LPTC'') was established as an 
educational institution by the Winnebago Tribe to fulfill the goal of 
its namesake, Chief Little Priest, ``Be Strong and Educate My 
Children.'' Its major focus is to provide a 2-year associate degree and 
certification and prepare students to transfer and successfully 
complete a major at a 4-year institution. Another equally important 
part of the college's mission is to provide Ho-Chunk language and 
culture classes as well as provide training opportunities for upgrading 
job skills and improving employment opportunities.
    In the last 4 years the college's enrollment has almost doubled. 
The current spring enrollment is 209, which is the highest enrollment 
ever in a spring semester. The college also has doubled the number of 
programs from 6 to 12 in the last 4 years. Also, last year, the college 
celebrated the highest graduating group. To allow for LPTC's continued 
growth and positive impact on the community, the Tribe urges the 
subcommittee to increase funding for Tribal Colleges and Universities.
            tribal colleges facilities improvement & repair
    Many LPTC buildings are 20 to 70 years old and in need of 
improvements and/or repair. Funding for large, deferred maintenance 
projects is needed for the Library and Museum/Student Services 
Building, Food Service Building, and Administration Building, which was 
built in 1954. In addition, funding is needed to address overcrowded 
classrooms, limited housing, and lack of office space. Funding is also 
needed for LPTC to implement its Master Plan that would expand the 
campus onto an adjacent 10-acre site. Five new buildings are planned at 
an estimated total cost of $60 million. Planned buildings include 
Career & Technology Education Building, Cultural & Student Center, 
Dormitory, Wellness Center, and Day Care Center.
    LPTC is thankful for recent Facilities Improvement & Repair funds 
that have enabled the College to respond quickly to routine repairs and 
maintenance. LPTC has also been able to use Federal COVID funds to 
begin the construction of a new Science building that will provide 
modern lab facilities for the new Biology and Chemistry programs. The 
Tribe urges the subcommittee to increase funding for Tribal Colleges 
Facilities Improvement & Repair.
    The Winnebago Tribe appreciates the opportunity to share its Fiscal 
Year 2025 funding priorities with the subcommittee.

    [This statement was submitted by Victoria Kitcheyan, Winnebago 
Tribe of Nebraska.]
                                 ______
                                 
                Prepared Statement of the Yakama Nation
    Chair Merkley, Ranking Member Murkowski and distinguished members 
of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on the Interior, Environment 
and Related Agencies, I submit this testimony on behalf of the 
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation (``Yakama Nation''). 
The Yakama Nation is an inherently sovereign Native Nation with 
reserved rights and privileges pursuant the 1855 Treaty between the 
United States and the Yakamas (``Treaty'').\1\ A Federal treaty is 
considered the supreme Law of the Land under the U.S. Constitution.\2\ 
Pursuant to its status as a sovereign Native Nation and its Treaty-
reserved authority, Yakama Nation protects all of the natural and 
cultural resources in Yakama Nation's Treaty-territory and provides for 
the health, safety, and welfare of the more than 11,000 enrolled Yakama 
Members. The United States has a duty to provide for the services set 
forth below.
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    \1\ See Treaty with the Yakamas, U.S.--Yakama Nation, June 9, 1855, 
12 Stat. 951.
    \2\ See U.S. Const. art. VI, cl. 2.
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   appraisal backlog--'cobell' part two for probate & leasing (bia).
    The Yakama Nation Appraisals Program lacks sufficient resources to 
effectively manage an unwieldly appraisal workload. The Yakama Nation 
Appraisals Program is a Federal trust function administered through 
Federal contracts pursuant to Public Law 93-638, Indian Self-
Determination and Education Assistance Act (``ISDEAA''). The Federal 
Appraisal and Valuation Services Office (``AVSO''), like many ISDEAA 
contracts carried out by the Yakama Nation, is ``638ed'' for the Tribal 
government to carry-out necessary Federal functions. The 638 contracts 
typically establish an organizational framework and performance 
standards, and are supposed to provide enough funding for the 
contracted Tribal department to perform the contracted Federal 
function. There are currently around 500 individual probates pending at 
Yakama that will likely require 1,500 to 2,000 appraisals. Today, 
current funding levels only provide for a single full-time appraiser 
whose workload is driven by requests made through offices operating 
under the Bureau of Indian Affairs (``BIA'').
    Appraisals are critical to many Federal functions, including 
probate, leasing, and trust transactions. In probate, without timely 
appraisals, heirs are left to wait for years until an appraisal is 
prepared and approved for use by the court. The Yakama Nation has 
engaged with AVSO in government-to-government consultation and 
initiated the process of developing the model for standardized mass 
appraisals. Mass appraisals will accelerate the completion and approval 
of appraisals, but only to the extent there is sufficient staffing; 
success depends on funding for additional appraiser training, and 
funding for additional appraisal staff.
         in-patient treatment center (indian health services).
    On the Yakama Reservation, the opioid epidemic has had a profound 
impact, exacerbating existing social and health disparities among 
Yakama and non-Yakama Tribal members. The misuse of opioids has led to 
increased rates of addiction, substance abuse disorders, mental health 
issues, and social instability within the community. Additionally, 
barriers to accessing culturally appropriate and comprehensive 
addiction treatment services have hindered efforts to address the 
crisis effectively.
    There is a dire need for facilities in the Central Washington 
region that can ensure a safe detoxification process through medical 
supervision and withdrawal symptom management. County jails are 
becoming the de facto holding facilities to address substance addicted 
and housing-insecure populations on the Yakama Reservation and nearby 
trust lands. The Indian Health Services needs to be authorized and 
funded to implement initiatives dedicated to addressing the opioid 
epidemic and improving healthcare services on the reservation.
      necessary public safety & law enforcement funding (bia-ojs).
    The Yakama Nation has roughly a quarter of the officers needed to 
protect communities that reside withing the largest Treaty Reservation 
in Washington State. The Yakama Nation Police Department (``YNPD'') is 
638ed under the BIA Office of Justice Services (``OJS''). That 638 
contract currently funds 20 patrol officers for the 1.4-million-acre 
Yakama Reservation.
    The Yakama Nation has experienced an increase in violent crime and 
property crimes and has the highest occurrence of Missing and Murdered 
Indigenous Women/People in the region. The alarming rise in Latin 
American based gang and cartel-related drug activities is terrifying 
and the fentanyl epidemic plagues our Reservation communities. There 
are simply not enough law enforcement resources to meet our public 
safety needs. The Federal 638 contract has been flat for the past two 
decades, despite requests even for staying consistent with inflation.
    The YNPD needs more officers and more equipment. The region needs 
better public safety infrastructure to execute investigations and 
provide evidence for criminal prosecution. The OJS has their hands tied 
by budgetary constraints. The YNPD has had to figure out how to do more 
with less, year after year for decades. We need more law enforcement 
funding. We can no longer legitimately ask our People for patience when 
they reasonably demand public safety.
   treaty resources: columbia basin restoration initiative (ceq/bia).
    The Columbia River salmon fishery, Steelhead, Chinook, Sockeye, and 
Coho populations, are in jeopardy--for four decades the recovery 
funding has failed to keep pace with the required mitigation for the 
salmon lost each year to the hydroelectric system. Fishery returns have 
never come close to a Federal goal of 5 million salmon returning each 
year, the hydroelectric system continues to kill 5--11 million salmon 
per year, and the United States continues to fail its obligation to the 
Yakama Nation for 50% of the Treaty-era fishery harvest.
    The Yakama Nation's 638 contract funding levels for fish and 
wildlife programs need to increase inflation rates to ensure Treaty-
resource protection. Salmon are experiencing additional climate change 
pressure, warmer water temperatures, and drought-level water levels in 
the rivers and streams. The Yakama Nation's tireless work cannot 
reverse the effects of the Federal hydroelectric system's annual 
unmitigated fish kill and its $1 billion backlog in unfunded fish 
mitigation infrastructure, including but not limited to: hatchery 
projects; restoration work; and fish passage on the Columbia River and 
all of its tributaries.
    The Yakama Nation's fish and wildlife programs are also facing 
human resources challenges as intergovernmental efforts with Federal 
agencies, States, and Tribes continue to grow and as regional fish 
restoration efforts expand in scope to include energy, water, 
transportation, and recreation. Yakama Nation's 638ed contract is 
inadequate to recruit additional personnel and expertise to address 
intergovernmental efforts and regional needs.
    The Council on Environmental Quality (``CEQ'') and BIA need to 
exert their authority and funding to meet regional goals including the 
Columbia Basin Restoration Initiative. The Yakama Nation requests 
appropriations for the BIA grant and litigation support programs, and 
the Pacific Salmon Treaty program funding. The Yakama Nation further 
requests allocations for fish passages at hatcheries, like the critical 
Cle Elum hatchery. Congress needs a plan to fund the billion-dollar 
backlog to keep its Treaty-promises.
             degraded in-lieu & treaty fishing access sites
    The Federal management of In-Lieu and Treaty Fishing Access Sites 
(``Sites'') (see PL 116-99 and 25 CFR part 248) has been historically 
deplorable. More than $40 million is needed to address the list of 
repairs that must be completed across various Sites to maintain public 
safety, sanitation, and Site access. These Sites host year-round 
residents, families, and children.
    The Yakama Nation has Treaty-reserved rights to fish the banks of 
the lower Columbia River at all usual and accustomed fishing areas. The 
U.S. broke this Treaty-promise with the construction of the Bonneville 
Dam (1938), the Dalles Dam (1957), and the John Day Dam (1971), each 
inundating traditional villages and countless usual and accustomed 
fishing places. In response to these Treaty-breaches the Site 
improvements were made ``to provide access to usual and accustomed 
fishing areas and ancillary fishing facilities'' for Yakama People.
    Operation and maintenance of the 28 Sites is 638 contracted with 
the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission (``CRITFC'') to address 
infrastructure repairs, sanitation and safety needs, and property 
improvements. The Sites need improvement funding from Congress to 
ongoing operation and improvement obligations.
     alternative forestry harvest equipment (depts. of interior & 
                              agriculture)
    The Yakama Reservation encompasses the eastern slopes of the 
Cascade Mountains and a 650,000-acre forest. Federal forest practices 
and climate change have worsened the risk of insects, disease, and 
catastrophic fire in the Yakama Forest. Yakama Nation maintains a 
sustainable approach to forest management that addresses the needs of 
our resources and people. Steep slope harvesting is backlogged due to 
the limited availability of logging equipment.
    Due to the complexity associated with steep slope logging in the 
Yakama forest, the Yakama Nation is pursuing the acquisition of logging 
equipment to address the Yakama Forest backlog and reduce potential 
impacts of extreme wildfire risk. One specialized yarder equipment can 
treat approximately 1,000 acres a year. Support the Yakama Nation's 
alternative forestry harvest plan and help put the Yakama forest back 
to work.
           forest mismanagement--a direct federal duty (bia)
    Last year the BIA only completed one (1) timber sale from the 
Yakama Forest. Under the National Indian Forest Resource Management Act 
and implementing regulations, express trust duties were established for 
Federal management of Indian forests. The BIA Forestry Program at the 
Yakama Agency has failed to hire many dozens of vacant forestry 
positions for more than a decade. In 2014, the BIA Director identified 
that BIA Forestry at the Yakama Agency is, in his words, ``on the verge 
of collapse.''
    The BIA is functionally abrogating its direct services obligation 
through its gross mismanagement. The Forestry program has nearly 
stopped functioning altogether, and the U.S. is forcing the Yakama 
Nation to accept lost revenue through sheer neglect. This is a dramatic 
breach of the United States' trust obligations established by Treaty, 
statute, and regulation. Congress needs to fund maintenance and 
staffing consistent with the Federal obligation.
    Forest mismanagement has put Yakama Member-owned logging companies 
out of business. The Yakama Nation's commercial mill can no longer 
sustain itself on timber harvested from the Yakama Nation's own 
forest--threatening over 200 Yakama Member-held jobs. Yakama Members 
are losing the trust revenues that they should be receiving from a 
viable timber economy. Increase the resources available to the BIA to 
ensure that Federal direct service programs are able to meet Federal 
obligations to the Yakama Nation.
                  water resources and irrigation (bia)
    The BIA has systematically decreased its support for natural 
resource management; core functions such as water measurement, crop 
reporting, and Wapato Irrigation Project (``WIP'') maintenance have 
been underfunded to the point of system failure. The gross underfunding 
over the last 100 years has resulted in a shocking breach of the 
Federal Trust responsibility.
    The Yakama Nation is committed to water management and restoration 
of instream flows on the Yakama Reservation, including a conservation 
effort of 165,000 acre-feet of water through the modernization of WIP. 
The total price tag for modernization of WIP is between $165 million 
and $200 million. Providing this and other natural resource funding is 
a step towards fulfilling the United States Government's trust 
responsibilities.
                    tribal school construction (bie)
    The Yakama Nation Tribal School is a nearly 70-year old dilapidated 
facility and is evaluated in ``poor'' condition by the BIE's Facility 
Condition Index, yet under the available and projected BIE construction 
funding, the timeline for a new school facility is waitlisted for 25--
30 years. The Yakama Nation cannot wait decades for a safe educational 
environment. The BIE school replacement funding needs a significant 
increase to address the more than 80 Tribal schools ranked in 'poor' 
condition and authority needs to be provided so that the BIE can 
prioritize construction projects with matching funding, which will save 
money overall and redress this breach of duty faster.

    [This statement was submitted by Gerald Lewis, Chairman, Yakama 
Nation Tribal Council.]

       LIST OF WITNESSES, COMMUNICATIONS, AND PREPARED STATEMENTS

                              ----------                              
                                                                   Page

Alliance to Save Energy, Prepared Statement of the...............
  413............................................................
American:
    Alliance of Museums, Prepared Statement of the...............
      414........................................................
    Battlefield Trust, Prepared Statement of the.................
      417........................................................
    Bird Conservancy, Prepared Statement of......................
      418........................................................
    Cultural Resources Association, Prepared Statement of the....
      422........................................................
    Fisheries Society, Prepared Statement of the.................
      423........................................................
    Hiking Society, Prepared Statement of........................
      425........................................................
    Institute of Biological Sciences, Prepared Statement of the..
      428........................................................
    Indian Higher Education Consortium, Prepared Statement of the
      431........................................................
    Lung Association, Prepared Statement of the..................
      433........................................................
    Nuclear Society, Prepared Statement of the...................
      435........................................................
    Psychological Association, Prepared Statement of the.........
      436........................................................
    Rivers, Prepared Statement of................................
      437........................................................
    Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, Prepared 
      Statement of the...........................................
      440........................................................
AmericaView, Prepared Statement of...............................
  443............................................................
Animal Welfare Institute, Prepared Statement of the..............
  444............................................................
Arctic Research Program at Woodwell Climate Research Center, 
  Prepared Statement of the......................................
  447............................................................
Assiniboine and Sioux Rural Water Supply System, Prepared 
  Statement of the...............................................
  450............................................................
Association:
    of:
        Air Pollution Control Agencies, Prepared Statement of the
          452....................................................
        California Water Agencies, Prepared Statement of.........
          454....................................................
        Fish and Wildlife Agencies, Prepared Statement of the....
          455....................................................
        Zoos and Aquariums, Prepared Statement of the............
          459....................................................

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, Prepared Statement of.............
  462............................................................
Bristol Bay Area Health Corporation, Prepared Statement of the...
  464............................................................
Britt, Senator Katie, U.S. Senator From Alabama, Questions 
  Submitted by 

Business Council for Sustainable Energy, Prepared Statement of 
  the............................................................
  467............................................................

Carbon Utilization Research Council, Prepared Statement of.......
  469............................................................
Center for Invasive Species Prevention, Prepared Statement of the
  469............................................................
Chippewa Cree Tribe, Prepared Statement of the...................
  472............................................................
Chugach Regional Resources Commission, Prepared Statement of the.
  478............................................................
Coalition:
    of:
        Refuge Friends and Advocates, Prepared Statement of the..
          483....................................................
    to:
        Protect America's National Parks, Prepared Statement of..
          481....................................................
Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Program, Prepared Statement 
  of the 

Confederated:
    Salish and Kootenai Tribes of the Flathead Reservation, 
      Prepared Statement of the..................................
      487........................................................
    Tribes:
        Chehalis Reservation, Prepared Statement of the..........
          489....................................................
        Colville Reservation, Prepared Statement of the..........
          491....................................................
Conservation Fund, Prepared Statement of the.....................
  476............................................................
Cooperative Alliance for Refuge Enhancement, Prepared Statement 
  of the.........................................................
  493............................................................
Council of Infrastructure Financing Authorities, Prepared 
  Statement of the...............................................
  495............................................................

Detroit International Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of.....
  497............................................................
Defenders of Wildlife, Prepared Statement of.....................
  500............................................................
Detention Facility and Public Safety in Northeast Oklahoma, 
  Prepared Statement of..........................................
  503............................................................
Dine Bi Olta School Board Association, Prepared Statement of the.
  504............................................................
``Ding'' Darling Wildlife Society, Prepared Statement of.........
  499............................................................

Entomological Society of America, Prepared Statement of the......
  508............................................................
Environmental:
    Council of the States, Prepared Statement of the.............
      511........................................................
    Working Group, Prepared Statement of.........................
      513........................................................

Federation of State Humanities Councils, Prepared Statement of 
  the............................................................
  514............................................................
Fischer, Senator Deb, U.S. Senator From Nebraska, Question 
  Submitted by...................................................
  364............................................................
Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa, Prepared Statement of 
  the............................................................
  517............................................................
Fort Peck Reservation, Prepared Statement of the.................
  520............................................................
Friends of:
    Blackwater National Wildlife Refuge Inc., Prepared Statement 
      of the.....................................................
      522........................................................
    Front Range Wildlife Refuges, Prepared Statement of the......
      523........................................................
    Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of..
      524........................................................
    Hakalau Forest National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement 
      of.........................................................
      526........................................................
    Heinz Refuge Board of Directors, Prepared Statement of.......
      527........................................................
    Louisiana Wildlife Refuges, Inc., Prepared Statement of......
      529........................................................
    Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of......
      531........................................................
    Mid-Columbia River National Wildlife Refuge Complex, Prepared 
      Statement of the...........................................
      532........................................................
    Missisquoi National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of...
      533........................................................
    National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, Prepared 
      Statement of the...........................................
      535........................................................
    Neal Smith National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of...
      536........................................................
    O`ahu National Wildlife Refuges, Prepared Statement of.......
      537........................................................
    Patuxent Research Refuge, Inc., Prepared Statement of........
      538........................................................
    Prime Hook, Prepared Statement of the........................
      539........................................................
    Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of
      540........................................................
    Savannah Coastal Wildlife Refuges, Prepared Statement of the.
      542........................................................
    Seney National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of........
      543........................................................
    Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of the
      543........................................................
    St. Marks Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of the.........
      545........................................................
    Tampa Bay National Wildlife Refuges, Prepared Statement of 
      the........................................................
      547........................................................
    Tualatin River:
        And Wapato National Wildlife Refuges, Prepared Statement 
          of the.................................................
          550....................................................
        National Wildlife Refuge Complex, Prepared Statement of 
          the....................................................
          548....................................................

Geological Society of America, Prepared Statement of.............
  551............................................................
Grantmakers in the Arts, Prepared Statement of...................
  553............................................................
Great Lakes:
    Coalition, Prepared Statement of the.........................
      554........................................................
    Indian Fish & Wildlife Commission, Prepared Statement of.....
      558........................................................
GreenLatinos, Prepared Statement of..............................
  560............................................................
Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, Prepared Statement of........
  563............................................................

Haaland, Hon. Deb, Secretary, Department of the Interior:
    Prepared Statement of........................................
      111........................................................
    Statement of.................................................
      105........................................................
    Summary Statement of.........................................
      110........................................................
Healthy Schools Network, Prepared Statement of...................
  566............................................................
Heinrich, Senator Martin, U.S. Senator From New Mexico, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................
  409............................................................
Hoeven, Senator John, U.S. Senator From North Dakota, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................
  97.............................................................
Hualapai Tribe of Arizona, Prepared Statement of the.............
  568............................................................
Humane Society Legislative Fund and The Humane Society of the 
  United States, Prepared Statement of the.......................
  569............................................................

Interstate Mining Compact Commission, Prepared Statement of......
  572............................................................
InterTribal Buffalo Council, Prepared Statement of...............
  575............................................................

Jamestown S'Klallam Tribe, Prepared Statement of the.............
  578............................................................
Johnson County Department of Health and Environment, Prepared 
  Statement of...................................................
  581............................................................

Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians, Prepared 
  Statement of...................................................
  582............................................................
League of American Orchestras, Prepared Statement of the.........
  584............................................................

Medical Students for a Sustainable Future, Prepared Statement of.
  587............................................................
Merkley, Senator Jeff, U.S. Senator From Oregon:
    Opening Statement of 

Metlakatla Indian Community, Prepared Statement of the...........
  588............................................................
Moore, Hon. Randy, Chief, U.S. Forest Service:
    Prepared Statement of........................................
      6..........................................................
    Statement of.................................................
      1..........................................................
    Summary Statement of.........................................
      5..........................................................
Murkowski, Senator Lisa, U.S. Senator From Alaska:
    Questions Submitted by.......................................
      345........................................................
    Statement of 

National:
    Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, Prepared 
      Statement of...............................................
      591........................................................
    Association of:
        Abandoned Mine Land Programs, Prepared Statement of......
          595....................................................
        Clean:
            Air Agencies, Prepared Statement of..................
              598................................................
            Water Agencies, Prepared Statement of................
              600................................................
        State:
            Departments of Agriculture, Prepared Statement of....
              603................................................
            Energy Officials, Prepared Statement of..............
              604................................................
            Foresters, Prepared Statement of.....................
              606................................................
        Tribal Historic Preservation Officers, Prepared Statement 
          of.....................................................
          609....................................................
    Conference of State Historic Preservation Officers, Prepared 
      Statement of...............................................
      612........................................................
    Council of Urban Indian Health, Prepared Statement of........
      615........................................................
    Conservation Lands, Prepared Statement of....................
      619........................................................
    Cooperators' Coalition, Prepared Statement of................
      621........................................................
    Endowment for the Arts, Prepared Statement of 

        And National Endowment for the Humanities, Prepared 
          Statement of...........................................
          627....................................................
    Fish and Wildlife Foundation, Prepared Statement of the......
      628........................................................
    Humanities Alliance, Prepared Statement of the...............
      631........................................................
    Indian Health Board, Prepared Statement of the...............
      633........................................................
    Parks Conservation Association, Prepared Statement of........
      636........................................................
    Tribal Contract Support Cost Coalition, Prepared Statement of 
      the........................................................
      639........................................................
    Trust for Historic Preservation, Prepared Statement of the...
      641........................................................
    Wildlife Refuge Association, Prepared Statement of...........
      644........................................................
Native:
    Village
        of:
            Eyak, Prepared Statement of..........................
              646................................................
            Kotzebue, Prepared Statement of......................
              649................................................
Natural Science Collections Alliance, Prepared Statement of the..
  651............................................................
Nature Conservancy, Prepared Statement of the....................
  653............................................................
Newland, Hon. Bryan, Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs:
    Prepared Statement of........................................
      370........................................................
    Statement of.................................................
      365........................................................
    Summary Statement of.........................................
      367........................................................
Nez Perce Tribe, Prepared Statement of the.......................
  656............................................................
North American Lake Management Society, Prepared Statement of the
  659............................................................
Northwest:
    Indian Fisheries Commission, Prepared Statement of...........
      660........................................................
    Portland Area Indian Health Board, Prepared Statement of the.
      663........................................................
Norton Sound Health Corporation, Prepared Statement of the.......
  665............................................................

Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement, Prepared 
  Statement of...................................................
  668............................................................
Oncology Advocates United for Climate and Health International, 
  Prepared Statement of..........................................
  670............................................................
Oregon Water Resources Congress, Prepared Statement of the 

Outdoor Alliance, Prepared Statement of..........................
  676............................................................

Pacific Salmon Commission, Prepared Statement of the.............
  679............................................................
Partnership for the National Trails System, Prepared Statement of 
  the............................................................
  681............................................................
Patoka River National Wildlife Refuge, Prepared Statement of.....
  684............................................................
Physicians for Social Responsibility, Prepared Statement of......
  685............................................................
Prairie Wetlands Learning Center, Prepared Statement of..........
  687............................................................
Preservation Action, Prepared Statement of.......................
  689............................................................
Public Lands Foundation, Prepared Statement of the...............
  692............................................................
Pueblo of Acoma, Prepared Statement of...........................
  695............................................................

Ramah Navajo School Board, Prepared Statement of.................
  698............................................................
Rappahannock Wildlife Refuge Friends, Prepared Statement of the..
  701............................................................
Reed, Senator Jack, U.S. Senator from Rhode Island, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................
  342............................................................
Regan, Hon. Michael S., Administrator, Environmental Protection 
  Agency:
    Prepared Statement of........................................
      58.........................................................
    Statement of.................................................
      51.........................................................
    Summary Statement of.........................................
      56.........................................................
Riverside-San Bernardino County Indian Health, Inc., Prepared 
  Statement of the...............................................
  702............................................................

Sage Memorial Hospital on the Navajo Nation, Prepared Statement 
  of.............................................................
  703............................................................
San Francisco Bay Wildlife Society, Prepared Statement of........
  708............................................................
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, Prepared Statement of 
  the............................................................
  706............................................................
Sealaska Heritage, Prepared Statement of.........................
  709............................................................
Seattle Indian Health Board, Prepared Statement of the...........
  710............................................................
Self-Governance Communication & Education Tribal Consortium, 
  Prepared Statement of..........................................
  713............................................................
Shoalwater Bay Indian Tribe, Prepared Statement of the...........
  714............................................................
Sinema, Senator Kyrsten, U.S. Senator From Arizona, Questions 
  Submitted by 

Society for American Archaeology, Prepared Statement of the......
  719............................................................
Sonoma Land Trust, Prepared Statement of.........................
  722............................................................
Southcentral Foundation, Prepared Statement of the...............
  717............................................................
Southeast Alaska Regional Health Consortium, Prepared Statement 
  of.............................................................
  723............................................................
Squaxin Island Tribal Leadership, Prepared Statement of the......
  724............................................................
State of New Mexico Office of the State Engineer, Prepared 
  Statement of the...............................................
  726............................................................
Surfrider Foundation, Prepared Statement of the..................
  727............................................................
Swinomish Indian Tribal Community, Prepared Statement of the.....
  729............................................................

Theatre Communications Group, Prepared Statement of..............
  731............................................................
Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, Prepared Statement 
  of.............................................................
  733............................................................
Tso, Roselyn, Director, Indian Health Service:
    Prepared Statement of........................................
      378........................................................
    Statement of.................................................
      377........................................................
    Questions Submitted to.......................................
      409........................................................

United South and Eastern Tribes, Prepared Statement of...........
  735............................................................

Van Hollen, Senator Chris, U.S. Senator From Maryland, Questions 
  Submitted by...................................................
  93.............................................................

Water:
    Environment Federation, Prepared Statement of the............
      738........................................................
    Source Protection Program, Prepared Statement of the.........
      740........................................................
WateReuse Association, Prepared Statement of the.................
  741............................................................
Western Governors' Association, Prepared Statement of the........
  742............................................................
Wetlands Program Development Grant, Prepared Statement of........
  744............................................................
Wilderness Society, Prepared Statement of the....................
  747............................................................
Wildlife Society, Prepared Statement of the......................
  750............................................................
Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska Tribe, Prepared Statement of.........
  753............................................................

Yakama Nation, Prepared Statement of the.........................
  755............................................................

                             SUBJECT INDEX

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                      UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE

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Additional Committee Questions...................................
  47.............................................................
Ensuring Equitable Access to and Benefits from the National 
  Forest System..................................................
  8..............................................................
Leveraging Additional Funding Authorities........................
  8..............................................................
President's FY 2025 Budget Request for Specific Priorities, The..
  7..............................................................
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                    ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY

Achieving Clean and Safe Water for All Communities...............
  60.............................................................
Additional Committee Questions...................................
  93.............................................................
Continuing to Build Back Critical Capacity to Carry Out EPA's 
  Mission........................................................
  62.............................................................
Elevating Environmental Justice..................................
  58.............................................................
Enforcing Environmental Laws.....................................
  59.............................................................
Ensuring:........................................................
    Clean and Healthy Air for All Communities....................
      59.........................................................
    Safety of Chemicals for People and the Environment, the......
      61.........................................................
FY 2025 President's Budget Request, The..........................
  58.............................................................
Safeguarding and Revitalizing Communities........................
  61.............................................................
Urgently Tackling the Climate Crisis.............................
  58.............................................................
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                       DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

2025 Legislative Proposals.......................................
  112............................................................
Abandoned Mine Cleanup...........................................
  161............................................................
Additional Committee Questions...................................
  342............................................................
Advancing Indian Education.......................................
  114............................................................
Addressing Climate Challenges and Building Resilience............
  115............................................................
Ambler Road......................................................
  126............................................................
    Legal Analysis...............................................
      127........................................................
America the Beautiful Initiative.................................
  129............................................................
America the Beautiful and the 30X30 Initiative...................
  130............................................................
Building:
    Agency Capacity..............................................
      123........................................................
    Resilient Communities........................................
      117........................................................
Chesapeake Bay...................................................
  136............................................................
Crater Lake......................................................
  146............................................................
Creating Jobs and Meeting Energy and Environmental Challenges....
  119............................................................
Critical Minerals................................................
  130............................................................
Conventional Energy..............................................
  120............................................................
Developing a Robust Clean Energy Economy.........................
  119............................................................
Drought and Ongoing Water Challenges.............................
  116............................................................
Energy Production on Federal Lands and Waters....................
  131............................................................
Final Rule on the NPR-A..........................................
  148............................................................
Fisheries Mitigation Guidance for Offshore Energy Production.....
  132............................................................
Fuels Management--Rogue Valley--Jackson & Josephine Counties.....
  144............................................................
Healthy Public Lands, Waters, and Wildlife.......................
  118............................................................
Honoring Tribal Sovereignty......................................
  113............................................................
Increasing Representation and Tribal Co-Stewardship..............
  122............................................................
Increased Accessibility to Public Lands..........................
  127............................................................
Interior's Workforce and Infrastructure..........................
  123............................................................
Investing:
        Technology and Information Management....................
          123....................................................
        Tribal Communities.......................................
          114....................................................
Klamath Fish Hatchery............................................
  139............................................................
Management and Protection of the National Petroleum Reserve in 
  Alaska.........................................................
  164............................................................
Meeting Financial Tribal Trust Responsibilities..................
  115............................................................
Monarchs and Other Pollinators...................................
  147............................................................
National:
    Park:
        Service:
            Employees............................................
              129................................................
            Seasonal Hires.......................................
              124................................................
    Petroleum Reserve Alaska.....................................
      148........................................................
Offshore:
    Energy.......................................................
      135........................................................
    Wind Energy in the Central Atlantic..........................
      137........................................................
Ongoing Commitment to Diversity and Equity.......................
  122............................................................
Pesticides on Wildlife Refuge Areas..............................
  149............................................................
Promoting Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion of Underserved 
  Communities....................................................
  122............................................................
Reauthorization of GAOA Legacy Restoration Fund..................
  125............................................................
Reclamation Jobs.................................................
  121............................................................
Reclassification of Tribal Payments..............................
  146............................................................
Renewable Energy on Tribal Lands.................................
  125............................................................
Rule Alaska Native Tribes and ANCSA Corporation Engagement.......
  163............................................................
Salmon Recovery..................................................
  134............................................................
Staffing at the National Parks...................................
  134............................................................
Strengthening Tribal Nations.....................................
  113............................................................
Tribal:
    Engagement:
        NPRA Rule, on the........................................
          162....................................................
        Offshore Wind Leasing, of................................
          134....................................................
    Hatchery Operations..........................................
      128........................................................
    Law Enforcement Programs.....................................
      145........................................................
Warrior Met Coal.................................................
  138............................................................
Wildland:
    Fire:
        Management...............................................
          115....................................................
        Hazardous Fuels..........................................
          144....................................................
Western Oregon Operating Plan....................................
  140............................................................
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                         INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE

105(L) Leases and Contracts Support Costs........................
  395............................................................
Additional Committee Questions...................................
  409............................................................
Addressing the Backlog in Probate Services.......................
  404............................................................
Advance Appropriations and Long-Term Funding Solutions...........
  379............................................................
Build America Buy America........................................
  405............................................................
Camp Grafton.....................................................
  392............................................................
Challenges Impacting Tribal Communities..........................
  401............................................................
Construction.....................................................
  373............................................................
Contract Support Costs and 105(L) Leases.........................
  386............................................................
Contract Support Costs and Tribal Grant Support Costs............
  373............................................................
Construction Backlog.............................................
  396............................................................
Economic Opportunities...........................................
  372............................................................
Federal Boarding School Initiative...............................
  371............................................................
Foster Tribal Student Success....................................
  374............................................................
Funding for Tribal Colleges and Universities.....................
  390............................................................
Future Emergency Preparedness....................................
  382............................................................
Gallup Indian Medical Center.....................................
  388............................................................
Health Care Staffing.............................................
  398............................................................
Health Care Funding Needs........................................
  399............................................................
IHS Facilities in Alaska.........................................
  406............................................................
Impacts of Continued Lower Funding in Fiscal Year 2025...........
  383............................................................
Implementation:
    Build America, Buy America in Indian Country, of.............
      406........................................................
    Stop Act, of the.............................................
      388........................................................
Indian Water Rights Settlements..................................
  394............................................................
Land and Water Claims Settlements................................
  373............................................................
Law Enforcement Challenges 


Leadership Priorities............................................
  379............................................................
Legislative Proposals............................................
  383............................................................
Manage Trust Resources and Lands.................................
  372............................................................
Mandatory vs. Discretionary Funding..............................
  387............................................................
Missing or Murdered Indigenus People.............................
  391............................................................
Modernizing Critical Infrastructure..............................
  381............................................................
Payments for Tribal Leases.......................................
  373............................................................
PILI 638 Contracts...............................................
  396............................................................
Prioritizing High Quality Health Care............................
  380............................................................
Progress Act Implentation........................................
  393............................................................
Probate Backlog..................................................
  403............................................................
Protect Indian Country...........................................
  371............................................................
Public:
    Law
        280 States...............................................
          408....................................................
        638 Contract Payments....................................
          397....................................................
Requests for Tribal 105(l) Leases to Interior FY 2021-FY 2025....
  387............................................................
Rights Protection Implementation Program.........................
  392............................................................
Strengthen Tribal Communities....................................
  371............................................................
Support for Tibal Healthcare.....................................
  393............................................................
Supporting Self-Determination....................................
  382............................................................
Tribal Sovereignty Payments......................................
  384............................................................
Trust:
Fund Management..................................................
  374............................................................
    Natural Resource Management..................................
      372........................................................

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