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                 TRAFFICKED, EXPLOITED, AND MISSING: MIGRANT 
                  CHILDREN VICTIMS OF THE BIDEN-HARRIS AD-
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                             JOINT HEARING

                              BEFORE THE

                            SUBCOMMITTEE ON
                    BORDER SECURITY AND ENFORCEMENT

                                AND THE

                            SUBCOMMITTEE ON
             OVERSIGHT, INVESTIGATIONS, AND ACCOUNTABILITY

                                 OF THE

                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                           NOVEMBER 19, 2024

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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY

                 Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee, Chairman
                 
Michael T. McCaul, Texas             Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi, 
Clay Higgins, Louisiana                  Ranking Member
Michael Guest, Mississippi           Eric Swalwell, California
Dan Bishop, North Carolina           J. Luis Correa, California
Carlos A. Gimenez, Florida           Troy A. Carter, Louisiana
August Pfluger, Texas                Shri Thanedar, Michigan
Andrew R. Garbarino, New York        Seth Magaziner, Rhode Island
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia      Glenn Ivey, Maryland
Tony Gonzales, Texas                 Daniel S. Goldman, New York
Nick LaLota, New York                Robert Garcia, California
Mike Ezell, Mississippi              Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Anthony D'Esposito, New York         Robert Menendez, New Jersey
Laurel M. Lee, Florida               Thomas R. Suozzi, New York
Morgan Luttrell, Texas               Timothy M. Kennedy, New York
Dale W. Strong, Alabama              LaMonica McIver, New Jersey
Josh Brecheen, Oklahoma              Yvette D. Clarke, New York
Elijah Crane, Arizona
                      Stephen Siao, Staff Director
                  Hope Goins, Minority Staff Director
                       Sean Corcoran, Chief Clerk
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            SUBCOMMITTEE ON BORDER SECURITY AND ENFORCEMENT

                   Clay Higgins, Louisiana, Chairman
Michael Guest, Mississippi           J. Luis Correa, California, 
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia          Ranking Member
Tony Gonzales, Texas                 Robert Garcia, California
Morgan Luttrell, Texas               Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Josh Brecheen, Oklahoma              Thomas R. Suozzi, New York
Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee (ex     LaMonica McIver, New Jersey
    officio)                         Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi 
                                         (ex officio)
                Natasha Eby, Subcommittee Staff Director
       Brieana Marticorena, Minority Subcommittee Staff Director
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     SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT, INVESTIGATIONS, AND ACCOUNTABILITY

                  Dan Bishop, North Carolina, Chairman
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia      Glenn Ivey, Maryland, Ranking 
Mike Ezell, Mississippi                  Member
Dale W. Strong, Alabama              Shri Thanedar, Michigan
Elijah Crane, Arizona                Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee (ex     Yvette D. Clarke, New York
    officio)                         Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi 
                                         (ex officio)
                  Sang Yi, Subcommittee Staff Director
           Lisa Canini, Minority Subcommittee Staff Director
                           
                           C O N T E N T S

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                               Statements

The Honorable Clay Higgins, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of Louisiana, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Border 
  Security and Enforcement:
  Oral Statement.................................................     1
  Prepared Statement.............................................     3
The Honorable J. Luis Correa, a Representative in Congress From 
  the State of California, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
  Border Security and Enforcement................................     4
The Honorable Dan Bishop, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of North Carolina, and Chairman, Subcommittee on 
  Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability:
  Oral Statement.................................................     6
  Prepared Statement.............................................    61
The Honorable Glenn Ivey, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of Maryland, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
  Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability..................    62
The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress 
  From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on 
  Homeland Security:
  Prepared Statement.............................................    65

                               Witnesses

Mr. J.J. Carrell, Private Citizen, Retired Deputy Patrol Agent in 
  Charge, U.S. Border Patrol:
  Oral Statement.................................................    66
  Prepared Statement.............................................    68
Ms. Alicia Hopper, Private Citizen, Consultant on Human 
  Trafficking, Sadulski Enterprises, LLC:
  Oral Statement.................................................    70
  Prepared Statement.............................................    72
Ms. Kathryn A. Larin, Director of Education, Workforce, and 
  Income Security, United States Government Accountability 
  Office:
  Oral Statement.................................................    75
  Prepared Statement.............................................    77
Ms. Tara Lee Rodas, Private Citizen, Former Deputy to the 
  Director of the Federal Case Management Team, U.S. Department 
  of Health and Human Services:
  Oral Statement.................................................    87
  Prepared Statement.............................................    89

                             For the Record

The Honorable Dan Bishop, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of North Carolina, and Chairman, Subcommittee on 
  Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability:
  Article, New York Times, February 25, 2023.....................    10
  Article, New York Times, April 17, 2023........................    41
  Article, New York Times, February 15, 2024I6059................
The Honorable J. Luis Correa, a Representative in Congress From 
  the State of California, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
  Border Security and Enforcement:
  Statement of Kids In Need of Defense (KIND)....................   114

                                Appendix

Ms. Tara Lee Rodas, Private Citizen, Former Deputy to the 
  Director of the Federal Case Management Team, U.S. Department 
  of Health and Human Services:
  Supplemental Statement.........................................   121

 
  TRAFFICKED, EXPLOITED, AND MISSING: MIGRANT CHILDREN VICTIMS OF THE 
                      BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION

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                       Tuesday, November 19, 2024

             U.S. House of Representatives,
                    Committee on Homeland Security,
                       Subcommittee on Border Security and 
                                       Enforcement, and the
                Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, 
                                        and Accountability,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittees met, pursuant to notice, at 2:17 p.m., in 
room 310, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Clay Higgins 
[Chairman of the Subcommittee on Border Security and 
Enforcement] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Higgins, Bishop, Guest, Greene, 
Gonzales, Ezell, Luttrell, Strong, Brecheen, Correa, Ivey, 
Thanedar, Ramirez, Clarke, Suozzi, and McIver.
    Mr. Higgins. The Subcommittee on Border Security and 
Enforcement and the Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, 
and Accountability will come to order.
    Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare the 
committee in recess at any point.
    Without objection, the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Pfluger, 
is permitted to sit on the dais and ask questions of the 
witnesses.
    The purpose of this hearing is to examine how the Biden-
Harris administration's crisis at the border has led to 
increased numbers of trafficked, missing, and exploited 
children.
    I now recognize myself for an opening statement.
    Well, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 
Subcommittee on Border Security and Enforcement and the 
Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability. 
This is a joint hearing on the trafficking, exploitation, and 
missing unaccompanied children of the Southwest Border.
    We're here today to examine how the Biden-Harris 
administration's border policies have allowed dangerous 
cartels, criminals, and human traffickers to prey upon the 
world's most vulnerable people, unaccompanied children that 
come to our country.
    Our committee has been actively engaged in addressing this 
important issue.
    In August, I, along with Chairmen Green and Bishop, sent a 
letter to the deputy assistant secretary for humanitarian 
services and director of the Health and Human Services Office 
of Refugee Resettlement, Robin Dunn Marcos, requesting critical 
information on the screening and vetting of potential sponsors.
    In September, Chairman Bishop and I held a Member briefing 
with officials from the Department of Homeland Security and 
Health and Human Services to better understand how DHS 
encounters, screens, and transfers unaccompanied children to 
HHS and how HHS subsequently places those children with 
potential sponsors.
    As the administration's border crisis continues to spiral 
out of control, the number of unaccompanied minors arriving at 
the Southwest Border has increased greatly, turning the 
situation at the border into a devastating humanitarian 
catastrophe. In fact, the Biden-Harris administration has 
encountered nearly 530,000 alien children at the border to 
date. In comparison, the Trump administration had less than 
half that number over the same period of time.
    I think America, we should ask ourselves, why are so many 
children arriving at the border alone and afraid, sometimes in 
the hands of an unconfirmed relative with no apparent 
indications of family connection? These children show up with 
arbitrary phone numbers and addresses scribbled on their arms 
as if they're, like, packaging arriving at someone's warehouse 
or doorstep. Some children that arrive at the border appear to 
be drugged, preventing law enforcement authorities from 
properly questioning them about those they're traveling with.
    This is outrageous, and it's an affront to the very core 
principles that form the morality of any decent nation. 
Certainly, Americans should not accept this moving forward.
    The purpose of this hearing is to put some hard facts on 
the table so that we can work together on both sides of the 
aisle and address actual solutions.
    The Biden-Harris administration has stated that they have 
the most humanitarian border policies in history, yet we 
witness these horrors that are happening, and there's nothing 
humanitarian about enabling criminal cartels to exploit, abuse, 
and profit from vulnerable children.
    Once the children enter the United States, Customs and 
Border Protection, the CBP, and Immigration and Customs 
Enforcement, ICE, and Health and Human Services, HHS, are 
tasked with their well-being and safety. Initially, CBP works 
to process and screen those children once they're encountered 
at the border. Next, HHS works to identify and place them with 
a potential sponsor. Finally, ICE works to ensure they follow 
through with their immigration court proceedings.
    That's how it's supposed to work. However, those agencies 
do not have the capacity or resources to handle the sheer 
number of children who have crossed the border in the last 4 
years.
    Compounding this crisis, the administration is not 
thoroughly vetting potential sponsors. This is a serious weak 
link in the chain.
    According to information leaked to the media, Health and 
Human Services reportedly lost contact with more than 85,000 
unaccompanied children between 2021 and 2023. Now, think about 
that. That's the size of major cities in America. In my 
district, that would be about the size of Lake Charles, 
Louisiana. Eighty-five thousand children that are stated and 
known to be lost, and this was a year and a half ago.
    We are appalled that our Government has neglected its 
primary duty to protect the safety and well-being of those 
children placed in our care. It's entirely unacceptable that 
the current administration has allowed human traffickers to 
take advantage of this on-going border crisis. We have a 
responsibility to our Nation to fight against human-trafficking 
horrors and to find and rescue the children at that are 
currently missing.
    I would like to express my gratitude to our witnesses for 
appearing before the committee today.
    Before I yield to the Ranking Member of the Border Security 
Subcommittee, Mr. Correa, I'd first like to thank my good 
friend and colleague, Representative Dan Bishop from the great 
State of North Carolina, for joining me one last time as we 
work together to bring awareness to this very important topic.
    After winning a special election in 2019, Representative 
Bishop was appointed the seat on the House Homeland Security 
Committee. He later became Chairman of the Subcommittee on 
Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability in 2023.
    Known for his tenacious questioning of hostile bureaucrats 
who've come to testify before both this committee and the House 
Judiciary Committee, where he also serves, Dan has devoted 
himself to combating the abuse of weaponized Government.
    Dan is an extraordinary champion of the right to free 
speech, defending the homeland through strong border security, 
and enforcing the immigration laws passed by Congress.
    Agree or disagree with him on policy, Dan Bishop's 
intellectual rigor and command of the law are indisputable and 
have earned him the respect of colleagues on both sides of the 
aisle. There is never any doubt about where Representative Dan 
Bishop stands.
    It's been an honor to serve with him on this committee, and 
I'm sure that he will continue to use his God-given talents to 
serve our country.
    With that, I yield the balance of my time.
    [The statement of Chairman Higgins follows:]
                   Statement of Chairman Clay Higgins
                           November 19, 2024
    Good afternoon, and welcome to the Subcommittee on Border Security 
and Enforcement and the Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and 
Accountability joint hearing on the trafficking, exploitation, and 
missing unaccompanied children at the Southwest Border.
    We are here today to examine how the Biden-Harris administration's 
open border policies have allowed dangerous cartels, criminals, and 
human traffickers to prey upon the world's most vulnerable people--
unaccompanied children.
    Our committee has been actively engaged in addressing this 
important issue. In August, I, along with Chairmen Green and Bishop, 
sent a letter to the deputy assistant secretary for humanitarian 
services and director of the Health and Human Services Office of 
Refugee Resettlement, Robin Dunn Marcos, requesting critical 
information on the screening and vetting of potential sponsors. In 
September, Chairman Bishop and I held a Member briefing with officials 
from the Department of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services 
to better understand how DHS encounters, screens, and transfers 
unaccompanied children to HHS and how HHS subsequently places these 
children with potential sponsors.
    As the administration's border crisis continues to spiral out of 
control, the number of unaccompanied minors arriving at the Southwest 
Border has skyrocketed, turning the situation at the border into a 
devastating humanitarian catastrophe.
    In fact, the Biden-Harris administration has encountered nearly 
530,000 alien children at the border to date. In comparison, the 
previous Trump administration had less than half that number.
    America, ask yourself--Why are so many children arriving at the 
border alone and afraid and sometimes in the hands of unconfirmed 
``relatives'' with no apparent familial indicators?--These children 
show up with arbitrary phone numbers and addresses scribbled across 
their arms as if they are a package arriving at somebody's doorstep. 
Some children arrive at the border drugged, preventing law enforcement 
authorities from questioning them about those they are traveling with. 
This is a moral outrage.
    The Biden-Harris administration has touted that they have the most 
``humanitarian'' border policies in history. Yet, there is nothing 
humanitarian about enabling the cartels to exploit, abuse, and profit 
from vulnerable children!
    Once the children enter the United States, Customs and Border 
Protection (CBP), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and Health 
and Human Services (HHS), are tasked with their well-being and safety. 
Initially, CBP works to process and screen these children once they are 
encountered at the border. Next, HHS works to identify and place them 
with a potential sponsor. Finally, ICE works to ensure they follow 
through with their immigration court proceedings. However, these 
agencies do not have the capacity or resources to handle the sheer 
number of children who have crossed the border in the last 4 years.
    Compounding this crisis, the administration is not thoroughly 
vetting potential sponsors. According to information leaked to the 
media, Health and Human Services reportedly lost contact with more than 
85,000 unaccompanied children between 2021 and 2023. Think about that. 
That is the size of the city of Lake Charles, LA.
    We are appalled that our Government has neglected its primary duty 
to protect the safety and well-being of these children placed in our 
care.
    It is entirely unacceptable that the Biden-Harris administration 
has allowed human traffickers to take advantage of this on-going border 
crisis.
    We have a responsibility to our Nation to fight against this 
scourge of human trafficking and to find the children that are 
currently missing.
    I would like to express my thanks to our witnesses for appearing 
before the committee today.
    Before I yield to the Ranking Member of the Border Security 
Subcommittee, Mr. Correa, I first would like to thank my good friend 
and colleague, Representative Dan Bishop (from the great State of North 
Carolina), for joining me one last time as we work together to bring 
awareness to this very important topic.
    After winning a special election in 2019, Mr. Bishop was appointed 
a seat on the House Homeland Security Committee. He later became 
Chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and 
Accountability in 2023.
    Known for his tenacious questioning of hostile bureaucrats who have 
come to testify before both this committee and the House Judiciary 
Committee, where he also serves, Dan has devoted himself to combatting 
the abuse of weaponized Government.
    Dan is an extraordinary champion of the right to free speech, 
defending the homeland through strong border security and enforcing the 
immigration laws passed by Congress.
    Agree or disagree with him on policy, Dan's intellectual rigor and 
command of the law are indisputable and have earned him the respect of 
colleagues on both sides of the aisle--and there is never any doubt 
about where he stands.
    It has been an honor to serve with him on this committee, and I am 
sure that he will continue to use his God-given talents to serve our 
country.
    With that, I yield back the balance of my time.

    Mr. Higgins. I recognize my friend and colleague, Mr. 
Correa.
    Mr. Correa. Good afternoon. Thank you to Chairman Higgins 
and Chairman Bishop for holding this most important hearing 
today on unaccompanied children.
    I want to thank our witnesses again for being here. Thank 
you for your time and interest.
    I'm going to listen to your testimony from you, the 
witnesses, very closely, not just as the Ranking Member of this 
committee but as a father, as an individual that, like I think 
all of us in this country, cares about children. We want to 
find some good solutions to these challenges. I hope that this 
hearing will also generate some good, bipartisan, across-the-
aisle solutions that all of us can work on moving forward.
    Let me be clear at the onset that it's everyone's 
responsibility to make sure all our children, as many children 
as we can put in safety, that we put them there. It means 
ensuring that these children that we're talking about today are 
protected at all stages of the immigration process, and that 
includes when they're encountered and held at the border, 
transferred to Department of Health and Human Services, and 
sent to what we hope is a vetted sponsor.
    All of us--all of us--want to stop human trafficking, child 
trafficking, and other horrible, unspeakable crimes against 
children. Human traffickers are not going to be waiting for us 
or our permission. They're going to keep doing what they do.
    But, again, I'm interested in hearing solutions today from 
our witnesses and also how you believe we can implement those 
solutions. All of us can give advice and counsel, but I want to 
hear, how do we implement them based on the constraints that we 
have?
    Of course, Mr. Chairman, we all need to address the root 
causes of this problem of immigrants approaching the border. 
You know, at earlier hearings, we found out, discovered, that 
80 percent of the women by the time they reach the Southern 
Border are either raped or sexually abused. It's a long, 
expensive, and dangerous journey. So the question is, what 
would prompt people to undertake that journey? What would 
prompt parents to let their children go on this very dangerous 
journey?
    None of us want these children crossing our border or 
making this journey. Nobody in this committee wants to see that 
situation. So we have to ask ourselves, what is it that 
prompted these individuals to undertake this journey?
    A lot of young children I've spoken to in other countries 
have said, ``Either I leave or I join a gang. One way or the 
other, I'm probably going to die.'' Others come from families 
that have nothing to eat, essentially starvation. It's what 
prompted our ancestors to come to this country. Stay in Europe 
or starve; you've got a choice.
    Also, we need to investigate those individuals that are 
making a lot of money from trafficking children, dropping kids 
over a wall, as well as those individuals in the United States 
that actually make a buck from looking the other way and hiring 
children to do adult work.
    Of course, we also need to make it easier for the victims 
that are trafficked to come forward and to ask for help.
    I've worked closely with my Republican colleagues to 
counter a lot of human trafficking, child exploitation. I've 
also spoken to special agents at Homeland Security 
Investigations to hear about their investigations, what are 
they doing, and what tools do they need to be more effective.
    In this committee I've spoken to many CBP officers about 
the ways they identify human-trafficking situations. I've also 
heard from the Department of Health and Human Services on their 
efforts to improve outreach to unaccompanied minors, expand 
access to post-release services, and improve the vetting 
process.
    Just last year, our Chairman Higgins and I introduced H.R. 
4574, Cooperation on Combating Human Smuggling Trafficking Act. 
This bill would enhance Homeland Security's transnational 
criminal investigative units, which help stop trafficking in 
their home countries before these children undertake that long 
journey.
    I'm glad this bill was passed out of this committee and 
then is now scheduled to be marked up in the Senate, and 
hopefully we'll be able to get it to the President's desk for 
his signature.
    But so much more is left to be done, and that's where all 
of you come in.
    Of course, we know that, basically, we need more agents 
dedicated to investigating these cases, preventing child 
trafficking and exploitation. We also need more legal services 
available for children so that toddlers aren't defending 
themselves in a courtroom.
    We also need the resources for more home visits of those 
sponsoring unaccompanied minors. We need to make sure that 
those children, after they're placed, are actually in safe 
living conditions.
    Those are just a few things that we need to do. A lot of 
work to do across the aisle. A lot of work.
    Finally, Mr. Carrell, I want to note that I saw your 
prepared remarks and they don't conform to the rules of the 
committee. Here in Congress, we don't accuse sitting 
Presidents, Vice Presidents, or Members of Congress of treason.
    But you are invited by the Chairman, and in this hearing 
I'm going to respect that. I want to make sure we move ahead 
and hear your testimony, sir. We want to be productive here and 
move forward.
    With that, I want to thank our witnesses for being here.
    Finally, I also want to turn to Mr. Bishop.
    Chairman Bishop, sir, every once in a while, you and I have 
disagreed on issues. Just once in a while. But I've enjoyed the 
debates, the discussions, the intellect that you brought to the 
House of Congress.
    Like the Chairman has said, I don't think you're done. I 
think you're just taking a reprieve and going to recharge the 
batteries, and God knows where we'll find you in a couple of 
years.
    Give him a round of applause, please.
    [Applause.]
    Mr. Correa. Thank you, sir, and may God be with you.
    Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Higgins. The Ranking Member yields.
    I now recognize the Chairman of the Subcommittee on 
Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability, the gentleman 
from North Carolina, Mr. Bishop, for his opening statement.
    Mr. Bishop. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, thank you, Ranking 
Member Correa, both of you, for your very kind words.
    My passing from this place doesn't hold a candle to the 
seriousness of the subject that is before us today. So I very 
much appreciate your comments, but I want to get to the matter 
at hand.
    I do want to say to Mr. Correa, I have such a fond feeling 
for you, sir, and it is important to say that we do have very 
fundamental disagreements and yet you are a warm-hearted, kind 
individual.
    I wish that it were possible for us to express just how 
deeply our differences are felt without it appearing sometimes 
that we dislike each other on a personal basis. I do not. I 
haven't disliked anybody in this Congress--well, I'm sure 
there's probably an exception or two to that. But, for the most 
part, it is merely the seriousness of the problems that we 
confront and the deep disagreements about what leads to them 
that I think leads me to the things I'm going to say right now.
    When you say that we need more resources for rescuing 
children from these circumstances, when we say that we need 
more resources to crack down on employers who would employ 
vulnerable children in the country, when you say you need more 
resources to ferret out child sex trafficking and the most 
horrendous sorts of victimization that you can imagine, sheer 
hell on Earth, I don't know how you can talk about that need 
without reckoning with whether or not decisions that each of us 
made gave rise to the need that is articulated.
    Why do the people come? Because it was declared that the 
border was open. Let's face it, that's what was declared. 
That's why you saw a sudden, dramatic change. You saw a 
massive, complete 180-degree reversal of policy that had 
attenuated the flow most successfully in history. It was 100 
percent reversed.
    So we see the horrific circumstances that you now want to 
articulate more burdens on the American taxpayer to attempt to 
solve. You want to impose more burdens on the men and women of 
law enforcement, who are already overburdened with the problems 
we have in society in the United States that will now be 
increasingly neglected because you have chosen to recreate in 
the United States, to a substantial degree, the horrific 
circumstances that are causing people to flee elsewhere.
    I, too, want to thank our witnesses for joining us today to 
examine this tragic crisis enabled by one of the major parties 
in politics in the American political system and the Biden-
Harris administration's gross mismanagement of caring for 
unaccompanied migrant children.
    I think it also bears noting at the beginning, what we're 
examining here today are the unaccompanied children, who went 
into the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement and were 
supposedly cared for to the best of the capability of the 
overtaxed resources of the United States of America, and it 
overlooks every other migrant child who came in, many of them 
purportedly with family units to which they may not have been 
genuinely attached. What has happened to them? We won't even 
see that in the numbers, upwards of 100,000 that we say have 
gone missing. We don't even know--those people aren't even 
represented in those stats.
    So, under the Biden administration, over 526,000 
unaccompanied alien children crossed the Southwest Border--
unprecedented number. Each year from 2021 to 2023, CBP 
encountered over 130,000 unaccompanied children, more than 
twice the levels seen under the Obama and Trump 
administrations.
    While CBP is usually the first point of contact for 
unaccompanied children who cross the border, the Health and 
Human Services Department's Office of Refugee Resettlement is 
primarily responsible for the care and placement of these 
children. Much of this work is done in partnership with 
nongovernmental organizations that provide shelter and 
services, usually under contract.
    Under the Biden-Harris administration, these NGO's received 
a windfall of taxpayer money through ORR, whose budget for its 
Unaccompanied Children Program was $6.9 billion in fiscal year 
2023.
    We throw these terms around, these numbers, up here like 
they don't matter. Six-point-nine billion. My good friend and 
colleague from California is up here talking about we've got to 
get a lot more, we need a lot more.
    Southwest Key Programs, the largest housing provider of 
unaccompanied children--one contractor--received more than $2.5 
billion in taxpayer funding over the past 3 years. This summer, 
the Federal Government sued Southwest Key, alleging that 
employees engaged in a pattern of sexual abuse and harassment 
against children in its shelters and failed to take sufficient 
action to protect the children in its care.
    Do you see how the dominoes fall? This is what happens when 
you begin with one ill-considered, ideologically-bound decision 
that did not take account of the realities on the ground or the 
circumstances that would certainly ensue, and they have ensued.
    Another company, Deployed Resources, has had a contract for 
a migrant facility in Greensboro, North Carolina, my State, 
since May 2022. Thirty-nine-point-five million has already been 
spent, with another $64 million obligated, but, incredibly, 
according to HHS, no children have been in care at the facility 
from the time it became operational in March until it went into 
standby in June.
    Do you see how the consequences proliferate of unbelievably 
bad decision making? What did we spend all that money on?
    The Biden-Harris administration placed political aims above 
the welfare of unaccompanied migrant children who crossed or 
were trafficked across the Southern Border, releasing UACs--I'm 
not going to use that term--releasing unaccompanied children 
with inadequate vetting and follow-up to avoid the bad optics 
of crowded facilities.
    The Office of Refugee Resettlement releases children to 
sponsors in the United States. Thorough vetting of these 
sponsors is absolutely critical and morally compelled if that's 
the path you're going to undertake to bring these children 
across.
    Unfortunately, the Biden-Harris administration's push to 
bring in migrants, to quickly release migrants, resulted in 
countless cases of migrant children being released to sponsors 
with major red flags, placing children at obvious risk of 
exploitation that has played out in exactly the exploitation 
that would've been anticipated.
    Far too often, children are released to sponsors who do not 
care about their welfare and intend to exploit the child 
through, at a minimum, child labor and, very often, far more 
heinous forms of trafficking.
    Should we really--is it really in the interests of these 
children to rush to release them to individuals who are trying 
to sponsor multiple unrelated migrant children? This is a 
systemic failure that has put thousands of vulnerable children 
in risky situations here in the United States.
    This failure goes well beyond the vetting issues on the 
front end, as an inspector general report earlier this year 
made clear that the Federal Government cannot account for tens 
of thousands of children that HHS released to sponsors. Thirty-
two thousand children didn't show up for their immigration 
court hearings.
    Those hearing dates are one of the only opportunities that 
ICE must engage with unaccompanied children and observe signs 
of trafficking or exploitation. What happened to those? What 
happened not just to 32,000, each one of them, what happened to 
that child? We do not know. They cannot be reached.
    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Over 290,000 have been 
released by HHS without a notice to appear for an immigration 
court date at all, so there will be no such opportunity to 
observe signs of trafficking or exploitation. There is no way 
for ICE to monitor their location, the status of these 
children, or verify their safety.
    We've asked and even subpoenaed HHS for information about 
the screening of potential sponsors and the children that 
they've lost contact with.
    In many cases, documented by investigative journalists with 
The New York Times, children released to sponsors who may not 
even be related to the child ended up working dangerous jobs to 
pay off debts or send money back home, often working night 
shifts or dropping out of school.
    Mr. Chairman, I request unanimous consent to enter into the 
record 3 articles: ``Alone and Exploited, Migrant Children Work 
Brutal Jobs Across the United States.'' That's February 28, 
2023. Second one, ``As Migrant Children Were Put to Work, U.S. 
Ignored Warnings,'' April 17, 2023, New York Times. Finally, 
``U.S. Failed to Safeguard Many Migrant Children, Review 
Finds''----
    Mr. Higgins. Without objection.
    Mr. Bishop [continuing]. February 15, 2024.
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      U.S. Failed to Safeguard Many Migrant Children, Review Finds
By Hannah Dreier, Feb. 15, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/us/migrant-child-labor-review.html
            Many sponsors were inadequately vetted and safety checks 
                    went unfulfilled, an independent watchdog found. 
                    Children ended up in dangerous jobs across the 
                    country.

    An independent government watchdog found serious lapses at the 
Department of Health and Human Services in its protection of children 
who migrate to the United States on their own, according to a report 
released Thursday.
    H.H.S., the Federal agency responsible for sheltering migrant 
children when they arrive by themselves, repeatedly handed them over to 
adult sponsors in the United States without thorough vetting and 
sometimes failed to conduct timely safety checks on children once they 
were released, said the report by the department's inspector general.
    ``I would define these gaps as very serious,'' said Haley Lubeck, 
the project leader for the review. ``We know that these children are 
especially vulnerable to exploitation.''
    The findings echoed New York Times reporting that the screening of 
sponsors and other safeguards for migrant children broke down during 
the first years of the Biden administration as hundreds of thousands of 
children crossed the border amid a pandemic-era economic collapse in 
parts of Central America.
    Migrant children have ended up working dangerous industrial jobs in 
violation of child labor laws across the country--in slaughterhouses, 
factories, construction sites and elsewhere, The Times found. Some have 
been gravely injured or killed.
    The report follows a June audit that H.H.S. conducted in response 
to Times reporting that found that many children were living with 
strangers who expected or even forced them to work. That audit revealed 
that government case workers had released more than 340 migrant 
children to adults who were sponsoring 3 or more children who were not 
family members.
    In early 2021, record numbers of children started crossing the 
border faster than H.H.S. could process them. With no room left in 
shelters, many children stayed on cots in crowded tents, sparking 
public outrage. The Biden administration pressured staff members to 
move the children out of shelters more quickly, and government workers 
said they saw children being sent to adults who clearly intended to put 
them to work.
    H.H.S. is supposed to call all children a month after they begin 
living with adult sponsors. But data obtained by The Times showed that 
over 2 years, the agency could not reach more than 85,000 children. In 
Thursday's report, the inspector general found that in more than a 
fifth of cases, H.H.S. workers did not make these calls in a timely 
way, and in some instances, waited nearly a year.
    In other cases, the review found, government workers skipped 
important safety checks, including looking into whether adults had 
abused children in the past, or ensuring that the addresses to which 
children were released were actual residences. In a third of cases, 
sponsors submitted illegible identification. In other cases, the agency 
sent children to sponsors without making mandatory home visits.
    The report also found that some protective measures, including 
periodic reviews by case coordinators, were removed when shelters were 
overcrowded.
    One child who said he had not received the mandatory follow-up call 
is Wander Nimajuan. He was 13 when he was released in 2022 to a man 
whom H.H.S. caseworkers listed as an unrelated adult. His mother had 
arranged for him to travel to the United States because the family was 
struggling in Guatemala. He said he had expected to continue studying 
in middle school. Instead, his sponsor put him to work immediately.
    Wander has spent the past 2 years working in roofing, the most 
dangerous job in the country for young people outside of agriculture. 
``I would have liked to talk to someone,'' he said.
    An H.H.S. spokesman, Jeff Nesbit, said the new report raised issues 
the agency had ``already improved,'' including through better policies 
and a joint task force with the Department of Labor. ``These changes 
simultaneously prioritize child welfare and safety while minimizing the 
time children spend in congregate care settings,'' he said.
    In the past year, H.H.S. has created a team that focuses on 
identifying cases of exploitation of migrant children, committed to 
providing universal case management for children after they are 
released, and begun offering more children free legal services.
    The inspector general for the Labor Department is also looking into 
how officials there have handled the recent surge in child labor.

Hannah Dreier is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter on the 
investigations team. Email her at [email protected].

    Mr. Bishop. The Federal Government has precipitated and is 
facilitating this humanitarian catastrophe. The unaccompanied 
children are released from the HHS shelters right into the 
hands of these sponsors despite multiple warnings from staffers 
within the agency that the vetting process was failing to 
protect children.
    The Biden administration was so focused on moving people 
through the system as fast as possible that they failed to 
ensure the safety of the children they were releasing. Many of 
these children already suffered at the hands of criminal 
cartels on that treacherous journey to the border, only to find 
themselves exploited again after leaving Government custody.
    The human cost of this impossible-to-understand bad 
judgment is simply heartbreaking and tragic. I look forward to 
the testimony of our witnesses as we shine a light on this 
monumental failure.
    Mr. Chairman, thank you. I yield back.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Bishop follows:]
                    Statement of Chairman Dan Bishop
                           November 19, 2024
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank our witnesses for joining 
us today to examine this tragic crisis enabled by the Biden-Harris 
administration's gross mismanagement of caring for migrant children.
    Under the Biden-Harris administration, over 526,000 unaccompanied 
alien children--or UACs--have crossed the Southwest Border--an 
unprecedented number. Each year from 2021 to 2023, CBP encountered over 
130,000 unaccompanied children--more than twice the levels seen under 
the Obama and Trump administrations.
    While CBP is usually the first point of contact for UACs who cross 
the border, the Health and Human Services Department's Office of 
Refugee Resettlement (ORR) is primarily responsible for the care and 
placement of these children. Much of this work is done in partnership 
with nongovernmental organizations (NGO's) that provide shelter and 
services.
    Under the Biden-Harris administration, these NGO's received a 
windfall of taxpayer money through ORR, whose budget for its 
unaccompanied children program was $6.9 billion in fiscal year 2023.
    Southwest Key Programs, the largest housing provider of 
unaccompanied children, received more than $2.5 billion in taxpayer 
funding over the past 3 years. This summer, the Federal Government sued 
Southwest Key, alleging that employees engaged in a pattern of sexual 
abuse and harassment against the children in its shelters and failed to 
take sufficient action to protect the children in its care.
    Another company, Deployed Resources, has had a contract for a 
migrant facility in Greensboro, North Carolina since May 2022.
    Thirty-nine-point-five million dollars has already been spent, with 
another $64 million obligated, but incredibly, according to HHS, no 
children have been in care at the facility from the time it became 
operational in March until it went into standby in June.
    What did we spend all that money on?
    The Biden-Harris administration placed political aims above the 
welfare of unaccompanied migrant children who crossed, or were 
trafficked across, the Southern Border, releasing UACs with inadequate 
vetting and follow-up to avoid the bad optics of crowded facilities.
    ORR releases children to sponsors in the United States. Thorough 
vetting of these sponsors is absolutely critical. Unfortunately, the 
Biden-Harris administration's push to quickly release migrants resulted 
in countless cases of migrant children being released to sponsors with 
major red flags, placing children at risk of exploitation.
    Far too often, children are released to sponsors who do not care 
about their welfare and intend to exploit the child through child labor 
or more heinous forms of trafficking.
    Should we really be rushing to release children to individuals who 
are trying to sponsor multiple unrelated migrant children?
    This is a systemic failure that has put thousands of vulnerable 
children in risky situations here in the United States.
    This failure goes well beyond the vetting issues on the front end. 
As an inspector general report earlier this year made clear that the 
Federal Government cannot account for tens of thousands of children 
that HHS released to sponsors.
    Thirty-two thousand children didn't show up for their immigration 
court hearings.
    Those hearing dates are one of the only opportunities that ICE must 
engage with unaccompanied children and observe signs of trafficking or 
exploitation.
    What happened to those 32,000 children? We don't know. We can't 
reach them.
    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Over 290,000 have been 
released by HHS without a notice to appear for an immigration court 
date. There is no way for ICE to monitor the location and status of 
these migrant children or verify their safety.
    We've asked and even subpoenaed HHS for information about the 
screening of potential sponsors and the children that they've lost 
contact with.
    What is happening to these migrant children?
    In many cases documented by investigative journalists with the New 
York Times, children released to sponsors, who may not even be related 
to the child, ended up working dangerous jobs to pay off debt or send 
money back home, often working night shifts or dropping out of school.
    Mr. Chairman, I request to enter 3 articles into the record: Alone 
and Exploited, Migrant Children Work Brutal Jobs Across the U.S.; As 
Migrant Children Were Put to Work, U.S. Ignored Warnings; and U.S. 
Failed to Safeguard Many Migrant Children, Review Finds.
    The Federal Government is facilitating this humanitarian 
catastrophe.
    The unaccompanied children are released from the HHS shelters right 
into the hands of these sponsors, despite multiple warnings from 
staffers within the agency that the vetting process was failing to 
protect children.
    The Biden-Harris administration was so focused on moving people 
through the system as fast as they could that they failed to ensure the 
safety of the children they were releasing.
    Many of these children already suffered at the hands of criminal 
cartels on the treacherous journey to the border, only to find 
themselves exploited again after leaving Government custody.
    The human cost of this crisis is simply heartbreaking and tragic. I 
look forward to the testimony of our witnesses as we shine a light on 
this monumental failure.
    Thank you Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.

    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman yields. Thank you, Chairman 
Bishop.
    I now recognize the Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on 
Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability, the gentleman 
from Maryland, Mr. Ivey, for his opening statement.
    Mr. Ivey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I want to join with both of you in my comments regarding 
Chairman Bishop of North Carolina. We had a chance to work 
together on a subcommittee, several hearings, actually, with 
respect to forced labor, and I appreciate the work that we were 
able to do together on that. We also serve on the Judiciary 
Committee together. I share the view about his insight, his 
legal acumen, and his energy and passion that he brings to 
these.
    I was mentioning to him, I was campaigning for another 
candidate down in North Carolina and happened to see some of 
his commercials down there, and I realized what a full-contact 
sport politics is in North Carolina. I'm going to stay in 
Maryland, I guess.
    But I do appreciate the fact that you've done such great 
work. The fact that you're leaving public office, I assume, 
does not mean you're leaving public service, so I look forward 
to your continued work. As they say, God is not finished with 
you yet.
    To the matters of the day, I do want to say this. I 
actually share in the concerns that have been voiced I think by 
all three of my colleagues so far with respect to the dangers 
and the horrors that these kids have been facing, as they not 
only face sometimes death, sometimes maiming, sometimes sexual 
assaults as they make this trip to the United States, but that 
the system has let them down here when they get to the United 
States.
    I think those have been well-documented not only by this 
committee but New York Times reporter Hannah Dreier. I believe 
these are the 3 articles that Chairman Bishop just put into the 
record, and I reference these as well.
    One of my colleagues from Michigan, Hillary Scholten, said 
that ``stories of kids dropping out of school, collapsing from 
exhaustion, and even losing limbs to machinery are what one 
expects to find in a Charles Dickens or Upton Sinclair novel 
but not an account of everyday life in 2023, not in the United 
States of America.''
    So I think we can all agree that there are horrific 
circumstances here in the United States right now that these 
young people are facing. I think we have to try and figure out 
how to work our way out of that.
    I'll say this, too. I mean, we've got a new administration 
coming in. I've heard some comments by some of the nominees, 
and I'm not sure that what they're proposing actually would 
necessarily address this particular problem. There's a lot of 
focus on shutting down the border, and, you know, that's 
certainly of interest, I think, to many of us on that front. 
But figuring out what to do with the kids that are here, I 
think, is the immediate challenge that this hearing I hope will 
focus at least in part on.
    Because, as has been stated, there's at least--I think 
320,000 is the number that I've heard--here in the United 
States, many of whom have not been located, many of whom we 
don't know what they're doing or how they're doing. I do want 
to make sure we figure out how to touch base with them and help 
get them on the right track. Many of them are due for court 
proceedings. I don't know that those are on track. Apparently 
they are not. I think we need to address that too.
    I know my colleagues have made some comments about money, 
but, you know, unfortunately, I think money's going to be 
relevant to trying to address these problems. It's going to be 
expensive to locate these kids. It's going to be expensive to 
try and put them back in connection with their parents, to the 
extent they are here. To the extent there's a decision about 
sending them back to a different country, that's going to be 
expensive. To the extent there's a decision made about keeping 
them here, that's going to be expensive too.
    I do want to note that the fiscal year 2024 
Congressionally-enacted budget for this particular issue, 
Unaccompanied Children Program, was $100 million less than the 
prior year and the President's request, and then for the fiscal 
year 2025 budget approved by the House Committee on 
Appropriations, more than $3 billion less than the prior year 
and what the President requested.
    Now, money doesn't fix everything. You know, I'm of the 
mindset that money can play a role but there's got to be other 
types of impact that can make a difference on these sorts of 
things, but I really do think money's going to have an impact 
here.
    Mr. Correa referenced a moment ago the issue about 
unrepresented minors not getting any legal representation to 
the extent they're coming through court. Some of them might not 
speak English. Some of them might be too young to understand 
what's going on. Some of them might be old enough to understand 
what's going on, but I can tell you, the immigration process is 
a complicated legal system.
    Now, I remember in this committee, when we were voting on--
I think it was H.R. 2, if I recall correctly--Mr. Magaziner 
offered an amendment to that bill that would've provided 
funding for legal representation for kids in these 
circumstances, and that was voted down and has not been 
included. So I hope that's one of those things that we can 
revisit as we move forward with this.
    I'll say this, as well. I think that one of the things that 
we really need to do is make sure that we're--well, I'll say it 
this way. I read in the testimony 2 statements--well, multiple 
statements, actually--about the harvesting of organs from 
children, and that was news to me. When I looked for footnotes 
and references and citations to support those claims, I didn't 
see them.
    So, I'll say, you'll have a chance to testify about those 
when your time comes, but those are very serious allegations. 
To the extent that that's actually taking place, I would 
strongly support the effort to energize Department of Justice, 
the FBI. To the extent my--I know I've got some colleagues that 
want to defund them, but I don't think they're going anywhere; 
at least I hope not.
    I hope that we can try and address whatever these types of 
issues may be--certainly the sexual assault, certainly the 
trafficking, certainly the international cartel activity. I 
know the Department of Justice has had some success there, 
especially with the Sinaloa Cartel, but we've got a long ways 
to go to actually make a dent on that activity.
    Then, Mr. Carrell, I guess--you know, I've just got to 
mention this before you have a chance to testify, and you can 
address it. But, you know, staff found a couple of quotes from 
you about punching--I guess it was the Speaker--square in the 
head, and ``the mass deportations will be swift, but they will 
be deadly.'' I'm concerned about those kinds of comments.
    Now, you'll have a chance to speak to those things. You 
know, I don't know that mass deportations are going to be the 
way to go, especially with respect to the children, 
unaccompanied children issue, but you'll have a chance to 
discuss that. I look forward to questioning you about it as 
well.
    But to all of those here today, I'll say this: These are 
very serious problems. These are very serious concerns. These 
children are very much at risk here in the United States. We 
want to make sure that we do everything we can to address those 
problems and help to get those children back on the right 
track, as well as the immigration issue as a whole.
    So, Mr. Chairman, I thank you again for giving me a chance 
to speak.
    Mr. Bishop, I've got to thank you one last time for your 
service.
    Mr. Bishop. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Ivey. Michael Jordan--you know, I guess he's kind of a 
GOAT out of North Carolina. Maybe you can be the Republican 
GOAT for Congress out of North Carolina as well.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Ranking Member Ivey.
    Other Members of the committee are reminded that opening 
statements may be submitted for the record.
    [The statement of Ranking Member Thompson follows:]
             Statement of Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson
                           November 19, 2025
    I'm glad we are here today to talk about protecting the most 
vulnerable among us.
    We should all agree that children, all children, deserve to be safe 
and cared for.
    No child should be placed in an unsafe home, exploited, or forced 
to work in a dangerous place.
    Unfortunately, this happens all too often--to both American 
children and migrant children.
    And unaccompanied children--those children who arrive to the United 
States without their parents and without immigration status--are among 
the most vulnerable. And the most in need of our protection.
    These children, often fleeing violence in their home countries, 
come to the United States alone, seeking asylum and sanctuary. They are 
children in need.
    These children can become victims of traffickers on their way to 
the United States, and can become victims of traffickers once inside 
the United States.
    The stories we've all read about children being exploited and 
forced to work in unsafe environments are heartbreaking. As some of the 
witnesses noted in their testimony, this has been a real problem going 
back over a decade.
    No matter the administration, this is unacceptable.
    The Federal Government must ensure appropriate care for these 
children and prioritize their safety and well-being.
    While the Biden administration has made positive steps, there is 
more to be done.
    This should not be an issue of politics--it should be about common 
decency and humanity.
    Yet, I fear that migrant children are being used yet again by 
Republicans to score cheap political points.
    When Trump was last in the White House, Republicans didn't focus on 
helping children.
    Instead, the Trump administration separated thousands of children 
from their parents, and President-elect Trump's new border czar wants 
to do it again.
    He wants to conduct massive raids on the immigrants in our 
communities, including those with American citizen children.
    And this Congress, my Republican colleagues chose to ignore 
requests from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) for new 
laws that would protect children.
    They ignored a request to allow HHS to partner with the Department 
of Justice for anti-trafficking programs.
    They also ignored a request to lower the cost-sharing requirements 
for grants that help trafficking victims, which make it easier for 
victims to get the help they need.
    They also ignored a request to expand training programs that teach 
parents and caregivers about preventing human trafficking among youth.
    Instead of passing these proposals, my Republican colleagues passed 
legislation that put unaccompanied children in even more danger.
    Their legislation would allow unaccompanied children to stay in 
Border Patrol's jail-like facilities for weeks.
    They would also send unaccompanied children back to the places they 
fled, where they are at enormous risk for exploitation and abuse.
    They would also make it harder for children to obtain lawyers to 
help them navigate our incredibly complex legal system.
    Democrats want to help children, not put them in more danger. I 
hope the witnesses today have recommendations for doing this.

    Mr. Higgins. I am pleased to welcome our panel of 
witnesses.
    I ask that our witnesses please rise and raise your right 
hand.
    [Witnesses sworn.]
    Mr. Higgins. Let the record reflect that the witnesses have 
answered in the affirmative.
    Thank you, and please be seated.
    I'd like to now formally introduce our witnesses.
    Mr. J.J. Carrell is a retired U.S. Border Patrol agent with 
a distinguished 24-year career, most recently serving as deputy 
patrol agent in charge of the San Diego Sector.
    Ms. Ali Hopper is a nationally-recognized counter-
trafficking expert and policy advocate dedicated to combating 
human trafficking and exploitation.
    Ms. Kathy Larin serves as director in the Government 
Accountability Office's Education, Workforce, and Income 
Security Team. Her portfolio covers a broad range of issues, 
including child welfare and refugee resettlement.
    Ms. Tara Rodas--how do you say your last name, ma'am?
    Ms. Rodas. ``Rodas.''
    Mr. Higgins. ``Rodas.''
    Ms. Tara Rodas is testifying in her personal capacity as an 
anti-human-trafficking advocate, but, professionally, Ms. Rodas 
is an 18-year veteran of the Federal inspector general 
community.
    In 2021, Ms. Rodas was detailed to the United States 
Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee 
Resettlement. As a detailee, she blew the whistle on the 
failures of the Unaccompanied Children Program and was 
threatened with retaliation and investigation.
    I thank the witnesses for being here today.
    The witnesses' full statements will appear in the record.
    I now recognize Mr. Carrell for 5 minutes to summarize his 
opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF J.J. CARRELL, PRIVATE CITIZEN, RETIRED DEPUTY 
           PATROL AGENT IN CHARGE, U.S. BORDER PATROL

    Mr. Carrell. Chairman Higgins, Ranking Member Correa, 
Chairman Bishop, Ranking Member Ivey, and the Members of the 
subcommittee, I appreciate the opportunity to speak about the 
evil of child trafficking caused by the open-border policies 
under President Joe Biden and his administration.
    I served in the United States Border Patrol for 24 years 
until I retired as a deputy patrol agent in charge of San Diego 
Sector. I worked under 5 Presidential administrations, and only 
1 President secured the border--President Donald Trump. Border 
Patrol agents went from working and being supported by the 
greatest border President in American history to the worst, 
President Joe Biden.
    My last year in the Border Patrol was Joe Biden's first 
year in office. On his first day in office, I watched in 
disbelief as 94 executive orders cascaded down from Washington, 
DC, obliterating every immigration policy that had been 
providing the most secure border in America's history. Border 
Patrol agents were forced to carry out unconstitutional orders 
that violated every law in the Immigration and Nationality Act.
    President Biden, through Department of Homeland Security 
Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, created policy out of thin air, 
ignored Federal immigration law, and facilitated the largest 
mass invasion into America that the world has ever seen.
    The United States of America will have spent hundreds of 
billions of dollars in 4 years to fund the needs of over 50 
million illegal aliens that populate our Nation. Between 1 in 6 
and 1 in 7 residents in America is an illegal alien. America 
has suffered the greatest demographic shift in modern history.
    After serving in the United States Border Patrol for 24 
years, spending a year researching and writing a best-selling 
book entitled ``Invaded: The Intentional Destruction of the 
American Immigration System,'' and filming 2 documentaries, I 
state with complete certainty that Biden, Harris, and Mayorkas 
intentionally, strategically, and purposely weaponized illegal 
immigration and used it as a tool to fundamentally transform 
America.
    Inside this invasion, the unspoken evil of child 
trafficking and, more specifically, child sex trafficking has 
flourished. At the end of this current administration, the 
number of children trafficked will have grown to over 550,000 
unaccompanied alien children, known as UACs. This horrific 
number of children will have been arrested, released into 
America, and then lost.
    To put this into context, during President Trump's last 
year in office, Customs and Border Protection arrested 30,557 
UACs who were accounted for and not lost. Conversely, in the 
first year of Biden's Presidency, CBP arrested 147,975 UACs, 
most of which are unaccompanied for and lost.
    In a 2023 Congressional hearing, Health and Human Services' 
Xavier Becerra and Director of Office of Refugee Resettlement 
Robin Marcos were forced to admit that their agency had no 
contact with over 85,000 UACs; they were lost.
    What did DHS, HHS, and ORR do to correct this humanitarian 
disaster? Nothing. In fact, all 3 agencies created further 
policies and procedures to increase the efficiency of moving 
UACs from the border to the interior of the United States to 
unknown and unvetted sponsors. Unaccompanied alien children 
were being handed off to total strangers. Then they disappeared 
into the darkness of labor and sex trafficking.
    In fact, a year later, in August 2024, the inspector 
general with oversight over DHS issued a report stating the 
number of lost UACs was not 85,000, it was over 320,000.
    My business partner, Ryan Matta, and I spent 6 months 
traveling across America filming a documentary titled ``What is 
Treason? #Trafficked.''
    The evil of child sex trafficking is difficult to digest 
and understand. However, after conducting numerous interviews 
with officers, agents, and whistleblowers from every alphabet 
agency and department, it was made clear to us that the Federal 
Government knowingly and actively facilitated these criminal 
acts.
    After several exhaustive months of filming, interviewing, 
and then editing this documentary, I state without reservation 
that the United States Federal Government is the world's 
largest child-sex-trafficking organization in modern history.
    The probability that thousands of these UACs are being 
raped at this very moment is 100 percent.
    The call to action has 3 parts--my call to action--and 
they're swift, and they happen at the same time.
    Every means necessary is to be taken to ensure all 4 
borders of the United States of America are sealed shut.
    No. 2, there's a law enforcement--a national law 
enforcement emergency to locate and rescue every single one of 
the 550,000 unaccompanied alien children that are lost.
    No. 3, a full-scale investigation of every U.S. department, 
agency, and every NGO participating in this criminal act shall 
be launched, and every person involved shall be arrested.
    Finally, the intentional opening of our borders is an act 
of treason.
    I encourage questions, and I--so I may further articulate 
this allegation.
    Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Carrell follows:]
                   Prepared Statement of J.J. Carrell
                           November 19, 2024
    Chairman Higgins, Ranking Member Correa, Chairman Bishop, Ranking 
Member Ivey, and Members of the subcommittees, I appreciate the 
opportunity to speak about the evil of child trafficking caused by the 
open border policies under President Joe Biden and his administration.
    I served in the United States Border Patrol for 24 years until I 
retired as a deputy patrol agent in charge in San Diego Sector. I 
worked under 5 Presidential administrations and only 1 President 
secured the border, President Donald Trump. Border Patrol Agents went 
from working and being supported by the greatest border President in 
American history to the worst, President Joe Biden.
    My last year in the Border Patrol was Joe Biden's first year in 
office. On his first day in office, I watched in horror as 94 Executive 
Orders cascaded down from Washington, DC obliterating every immigration 
policy that had provided the most secure border in America's history. 
Border Patrol Agents were forced to carry out unconstitutional orders 
that violated every law in the Immigration and Nationality Act.
    By the action of Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary, 
Alejandro Mayorkas, President Biden was able to create policy out of 
thin air, ignoring Federal immigration law, and facilitating the 
largest mass invasion into America that the world has ever seen.
    By the end of the Biden administration, approximately 12,000,000 
illegal aliens will have been arrested and, essentially, every one of 
those illegal aliens will have been released onto the streets of 
America.\1\ In 2023 and 2024, DHS was forced to admit that Customs and 
Border Protection (CBP) used both commercial and private airlines to 
fly hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens into America. DHS also 
openly admits to losing 3,000,000 illegal aliens as they absconded 
through the unprotected and open borders. These illegal aliens are 
classified as ``get-aways''.
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    DHS admits to arresting, releasing, flying into America, and losing 
between 15 and 16 million illegal aliens in 4 years.
    The data used by DHS and CBP are misleading and false. For the 
record, immigration experts believe that the flights into America 
carried millions of illegal aliens. The true number of ``get-a-ways'' 
who crossed the border is, actually, between 15,000,000 and 18,000,000 
illegal aliens. The total and true number of illegal aliens entering 
America in 4 years is 30,000,000.
    After serving in the Border Patrol for 24 years, spending a year 
researching and writing a best-selling book entitled INVADED: The 
Intentional Destruction of the American Immigration System,\2\ and 
filming two documentaries: WHAT IS TREASON? #TRAFFICKED \3\ and WHAT IS 
TREASON? INVADED \4\ I state, with complete certainty, that Biden, 
Harris and Mayorkas intentionally, strategically, and purposely 
weaponized illegal immigration and used it as a tool to fundamentally 
transform America.
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    \2\ Carrell, J.J.. INVADED: The Intentional Destruction of the 
American Immigration System. United States of America: Carrell, 2023.
    \3\ Matta, Ryan, director. WHAT IS TREASON? #TRAFFICKED. Carrell 
Entertainment, LLC & Ryan Matta Media, 2024, 1 hr., 46 min. https://
rumble.com/v5ewdmy-what-is-treason-trafficked-vip-only-do-not-share-
private-screening.html, https://www.thisistreason.com.
    \4\ Matta, Ryan, director. WHAT IS TREASON? #INVADED. Carrell 
Entertainment, LLC & Ryan Matta Media, 2024, 1 hr., 44 min. https://
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    Biden, Harris, and Mayorkas have committed the crime of treason 
against the United States of America.
    From the first day of Joe Biden's Presidency to the present, there 
are anywhere from 5,000 to 20,000 illegal aliens entering the United 
States of America each day. By the end of Biden's term in office, he 
will have accomplished the following:
   30,000,000 illegal aliens will have entered America 
        unlawfully
   Approximately 11,000,000-12,000,000 illegal aliens will have 
        been arrested and released into America
   Over 180 nations will be reported in the United States 
        Border Patrol arrest data
   Approximately 60-70 percent of all illegal aliens are 
        single-adult military-aged males
   Over 932,000 Venezuelans will have illegally entered America
   Over 500,000 Haitians will have illegally entered America
   Over 131,000 Russians will have illegally entered America
   Over 326,000 Chinese will have illegally entered America--
        and of these, there are tens of thousands that are soldiers 
        from the People's Liberation Army (PLA)
   Over 250,000 Special Interest Aliens/Terrorists will have 
        illegally entered America
   60-80 percent of every woman and child will have been raped 
        or sexually assaulted making their journey to America
   Over 550,000 Unaccompanied Alien Children (UACs) will have 
        illegally entered America
   The vast majority of the 550,000 UACs will have been lost 
        into labor and sex trafficking.
    The destruction of America is visible in every facet of American 
life from the biggest metropolitan cities to the smallest towns across 
America. The United States of America will have spent over $1 trillion 
in 4 years to fund the needs of the over 50,000,000 illegal aliens that 
populate our Nation. Between 1 in 6 and 1 in 7 residents in America is 
an illegal alien. America has suffered the greatest demographic shift 
in modern history. The fundamental transformation of America has begun.
    This invasion of 30,000,000 illegal aliens entering America in 4 
years was created and facilitated by Democrat representatives in office 
but it was funded by Republican representatives in office. This act of 
treason is a uni-party effort.
    Inside this invasion, the unspoken evil of child trafficking and, 
more specifically, child sex trafficking, has flourished. At the end of 
this current administration, the number of children trafficked will 
have grown to over 550,000 UACs. This horrific number of children will 
have been arrested, released into America and then lost. To put this 
into context: during President Trump's last year in office, Customs and 
Border Protection (CBP) arrested 30,557 UACs who were accounted for and 
not lost. Conversely, in the first year of Biden's presidency, the CBP 
arrested over 147,975 UACs, most of which are unaccounted for and lost.
    In a 2023 Congressional hearing, Health and Human Services (HHS) 
Secretary Xavier Becerra denied knowing that over 85,000 UACs had been 
lost. In another Congressional hearing that same year, Director of 
Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) Robin Marcos was forced to concede 
that her department had no contact with over 85,000 UACs. They were 
lost.
    What did the DHS, HHS, and ORR do to correct this humanitarian 
disaster? Nothing. In fact, all 3 agencies created further policies and 
procedures to increase the efficiency of moving UACs, their ages 
ranging from newborn infants to 17-year-olds, from the border to the 
interior of the United States to unknown and unvetted sponsors. 
Unaccompanied alien children were being handed off to total strangers. 
They then disappeared into the darkness of labor and sex trafficking.
    What was the result of this criminal negligence?
    A year later, the inspector general with oversight of DHS stated in 
a 2024 report that the number of UACs lost had surpassed 320,000. When 
you understand the policies and procedures of what constitutes a 
``welfare check'' on UACs establishing them as accounted for and 
protected, you would then know the horrific truth that every one of the 
550,000 or more UACs in America are lost.
    These children are being labor-trafficked, sex-trafficked, 
barbarically harvested for their organs and, quoting President Trump, 
``A lot of them are already dead.''
    My business partner, Ryan Matta, and I spent 8 months traveling 
across America while filming our documentary entitled, WHAT IS TREASON? 
#TRAFFICKED.\3\ What we discovered, through numerous interviews with 
Border Patrol agents, CBP officers, DHS employees, FBI agents, former 
CIA officers, HHS whistleblowers, FBI whistleblowers, organizations 
that combat child sex trafficking and individuals that worked inside 
the non-governmental organizations (NGO's) that traffic children, were 
the grotesque evils of child sex trafficking and criminal acts 
committed by our own Government.
    The current Federal Government knew, in the first few months of the 
Biden-Harris administration, that the number of UACs entering the 
country was spiking to never-before-seen statistics. However, they did 
nothing to stop it. Instead, the conveyor belt of child-trafficking 
production was more heavily funded and procedures were put in place to 
ensure the maximum output of these innocent and most vulnerable 
children.
    The Biden-Harris government knows that transnational criminal 
organizations from across the globe have discovered and are exploiting 
loopholes in the child sponsorship program. Human smuggling cartels 
specializing in children are smuggling the children over the border. 
They then wait for the Border Patrol to arrest these children. Because 
of the Flores Settlement Agreement, the Border Patrol's internal 
procedures are to release these children to NGO's within 72 hours.
    The NGO's then have a total of 20 days from the date of arrest to 
release the children. These NGO's then coordinate with HHS and ORR to 
reunite these children as quickly as possible with the same cartels 
that reside within the United States. There are no background checks or 
DNA tests on the sponsors who receive these children. There are no site 
visits to ensure the child's safety or to confirm the child has been 
taken to a home that actually exists.
    The probability that thousands of these UACs are being raped at 
this very moment is 100 percent.
    After several exhaustive months filming, interviewing, and then 
editing this documentary, I state, without reservation, that the United 
States Federal Government is the world's largest child sex trafficking 
organization in modern history. This is not just my belief, it is the 
adamant belief of every person we interviewed for this documentary.
    The call to action has 3 parts. All 3 parts are to happen 
simultaneously:
    1. Every necessary measure is to be taken to ensure all 4 borders 
        of the United States of America is sealed shut.
    2. A national law enforcement emergency shall be declared in order 
        to locate and rescue every single one of the missing 550,000 
        unaccompanied alien children.
    3. A full-scale investigation of every U.S. department, agency, and 
        every Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) participating in this 
        criminal act shall be launched. Every person involved shall be 
        arrested.
    The intentional opening of our borders is an act of treason. I 
encourage questions so I may further articulate this allegation.

    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Carrell.
    I recognize Ms. Hopper for 5 minutes to summarize her 
opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF ALICIA HOPPER, PRIVATE CITIZEN, CONSULTANT ON 
          HUMAN TRAFFICKING, SADULSKI ENTERPRISES, LLC

    Ms. Hopper. Chairman Higgins, Chairman Bishop, Ranking 
Member Correa, and Ranking Member Ivey, and the distinguished 
Members of the committees, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify and for prioritizing this important issue.
    Human trafficking is one of the greatest humanitarian 
crises of our lifetime. In the 5 minutes I speak today, men, 
women, and children are being sold, exploited, and brutalized 
within our borders.
    As a Hispanic mother, this crisis is deeply personal to me. 
I have witnessed first-hand the unimaginable suffering 
experienced by migrants on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico 
border. In one interview I conducted, a local resident, whose 
property straddles the border, told me about the screams of 
women and children he hears, including just 2 days before my 
visit.
    I walked these very paths, and I found discarded clothing, 
personal belongings, and chilling evidence of brutal assaults, 
all under the control of ruthless cartels like the Jalisco New 
Generation Cartel. No one passes through without their 
approval.
    Among the discarded items, I found IDs, many belonging to 
children--some real, others forged or burned. One was the 
passport of a 5-year-old Colombian girl, a haunting reminder of 
the dangers these children face.
    Traffickers erase migrant identities to smuggle them in 
under false names. In an interview with a former Sinaloa Cartel 
affiliate, he revealed how cartels use advanced technology to 
forge documents and erase children's identities before crossing 
into the United States.
    Tragically, the horrors don't end at the border. The very 
system meant to protect vulnerable children has become a 
trafficking pipeline. An OIG report recently revealed that 
324,000 unaccompanied children processed at the border are 
currently accounted for.
    Policies from the Biden-Harris administration prioritizing 
speed over safety have placed children with unvetted sponsors, 
increasing their risk. Furthermore, this administration's 
decision to eliminate DNA testing to verify familial 
relationships has created dangerous loopholes which traffickers 
are now currently aware of and actively exploiting.
    A young girl who arrived at the border in the custody of 
individuals claiming to be her family was bruised, disoriented, 
and in pain. Medical examinations revealed that she had been 
raped. Yet she was sent back to her abusers because no 
verification was done to confirm her guardianship. This is not 
an isolated case but a glaring failure of the system, leaving 
children in the hands of those who exploit them.
    The failure extends beyond the Government to NGO's 
contracted by ORR to care for these children. During my 
research, I interviewed auditors tasked with inspecting an NGO-
run facility in Pecos, Texas, and it exposed a lack of 
oversight, with critical information filtered to mask abuse, 
neglect, and trafficking, as seen in the DOJ lawsuit against 
Southwest Key for sexual abuse of children in those shelters.
    Meanwhile, taxpayer dollars fund no-bid contracts for these 
NGO's, whose CEOs have tripled their salaries, hire staff 
teaching migrant girls to dance provocatively, and continue 
receiving payments for undelivered services.
    The crisis does not end there. Trafficking extends beyond 
sexual exploitation and forced labor to organ harvesting. 
During a recent interview I conducted in a Central American 
prison, the convicted trafficker described organs being 
harvested in places like veterinary clinics in Merida, Mexico, 
recounting the removal of 3 livers, often sold to U.S. buyers. 
Another trafficker revealed that migrant children are the 
frequent targets. My colleague, Dr. Jarrod Sadulski, testified 
last year about a 12-year-old boy whose eye was harvested in 
Mexico for $15,000.
    We need rigorous oversight, strong accountability, and, 
where necessary, criminal prosecution of those who fail to 
protect these children. We must designate cartels as terrorist 
organizations, reinstate DNA testing, and demand accountability 
from NGO's and Government agencies responsible for these 
children.
    With this new administration, the American people have 
issued a clear and urgent mandate, one that now rests in your 
hands. With top-down support, the trust of the American people, 
and the eyes of the world upon you, you have a profound 
opportunity to lead with decisive action.
    Today, over 324,000 children are unaccounted for, each one 
a life in desperate need of our protection. We cannot afford to 
wait any longer. These children's future depends on what we do 
today.
    Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Hopper follows:]
                  Prepared Statement of Alicia Hopper
    Chairman Higgins, Chairman Bishop, Ranking Member Correa, Ranking 
Member Ivey, and distinguished Members of the committees, thank you for 
prioritizing this urgent issue. We are facing one of the most 
significant humanitarian crises of our time. In the 5 minutes I have to 
deliver this testimony, women and children here in the United States 
will be sold into trafficking and disappear. Unaccompanied migrant 
children will continue to be exploited, extorted, abused, and 
neglected--tragically, a direct consequence of the Federal Government's 
failure to meaningfully vet their sponsors.
    This is not a political issue, this is a humanitarian crisis, one 
that is costing the lives of countless children. I've witnessed this 
devastation first-hand. I have been on the front lines at the border, 
in Mexico, and throughout Central America, and what I've seen is gut-
wrenching. The disastrous effects of the current administration's 
immigration policies are fueling child trafficking, and I have seen 
cartel members, with children in their grasp, operating with impunity 
at our borders.
    In my efforts to further grasp the depth of this crisis, including 
the trafficking of children, I have taken steps to understand the inner 
workings of these operations. I've interviewed former sex traffickers 
and cartel members, both in the United States and abroad, who are 
currently or were previously incarcerated. These conversations have 
given me critical insights into the realities at our Southwest Border.
    Cartels bring trafficking victims to the border and rely on a vast 
network of gangs to facilitate the trafficking operations within the 
United States. This activity has surged under the Biden administration. 
My research has uncovered the complex system of stash houses on both 
sides of the Southwest Border, where gangs and cartels hold and exploit 
their victims. I've personally seen stash houses used by the Jalisco 
New Generation Cartel as lookout points, and I've encountered cartel 
members both at the border and in Mexico, continuing their operations 
with alarming boldness.
                       jacumba, ca/mexico border
    Recently, I returned from the border with my research partner, Dr. 
Jarrod Sadulski. During our time there, we interviewed a property 
manager overseeing a large, unfenced border property in the Jacumba, CA 
area--a site frequently exploited by cartels and traffickers for 
migrant smuggling. What we uncovered was deeply disturbing.
    On this property, migrants are led down 1 of 2 paths, depending on 
their ability to pay. Higher-paying migrants from Asia, the Middle 
East, and Turkey are funneled through a route that shows little 
evidence of exploitation. However, the second path, designated for 
poorer migrants from Central and South America, reveals a much darker 
reality. The property manager told us of the consistent screams of 
migrant women and children being sexually assaulted--screams that are 
heard regularly along this path. Just 2 nights before our arrival, 
those horrifying cries echoed once again, but the property manager, out 
of fear for his own safety, didn't dare investigate. He knows all too 
well that neither law enforcement nor Border Patrol can protect him. 
This area, like many others, is controlled by the Jalisco New 
Generation Cartel, operating with impunity right on U.S. soil.
    In one instance, a young, bloodied girl being chased ran up to him 
on the property. I walked both paths, and evidence of sexual assault 
was apparent on the second path. I found torn clothing indicative of 
exploitation, particularly of young female teenagers. I examined the 
sizes of clothing that reflected sexual assault. Some were children. I 
examined different parts of the trail where the sexual assault 
routinely occurs, which included a brush area that provides concealment 
if Border Patrol aircraft fly through the area.
    Following my exploration of the alarming realities of human 
trafficking and exploitation, I ventured to another path in Jacumba, 
CA, notorious for the smuggling and trafficking of migrants. This 
route, like many others, is tightly controlled by the cartels--no one 
passes through without their approval or involvement. As I walked along 
the pathway near the border, discarded identifications littered the 
ground, many belonging to children. Initially, we wondered why so many 
were left behind--some valid, many forged, often burned, torn, or 
buried. Among the debris, I found the passport of a 5-year-old 
Colombian girl, hauntingly staring back at me from the photo. In that 
moment, I was struck by the harrowing realities children like her face 
at the hands of these cartels.
    Delving deeper into this crisis, we uncovered a chilling reality: 
individuals are deliberately erasing their identities to enter the 
United States under false names. Our host, Cory Gautereaux, who lives 
on the border and has offered invaluable insights into this situation, 
has collected hundreds of IDs issued from various countries around the 
world. This collection underscores the global scope of this tragic 
phenomenon. The discarded identifications highlight a disturbing 
truth--those smuggled through this area effectively lose their original 
identities. This issue extends beyond immigration; it poses a 
significant national security threat. Some individuals are concealing 
criminal histories or their countries of origin, but when children's 
identities are erased, even darker questions emerge: Where are they 
coming from? Are they being exploited? What horrors have they endured 
to reach this point?
    To gain a more comprehensive understanding, I interviewed a former 
Sinaloa Cartel affiliate who had previously worked as a sex trafficker 
in Southern California before his incarceration. His extensive 
knowledge of trafficking in this region revealed that cartels routinely 
discard IDs to create new identities just before crossing the border. 
He detailed how scanners are utilized in vans to produce these new 
documents. At one point along the border, we even observed a van on the 
Mexican side that matched his description, reinforcing the alarming 
reality of how these operations are executed. This on-going crisis 
demands urgent attention and action to protect vulnerable lives caught 
in this web of exploitation.
                live & in-person migrant border crossing
    While conducting human trafficking research at the border last 
month, I witnessed a shocking scene: a child being handed through the 
border wall panels by a masked cartel member to an adult on the other 
side. Two cartel members in ski masks were present during this 
exchange. With Border Patrol nearby, we approached the area, and from 
about 15 feet away, I captured this photo as one of the cartel members 
flashed a peace sign (introduce picture as evidence). They utilized a 
black rope ladder to smuggle over 2 adults connected to the child. One 
cartel member even took a photo to document the successful crossing, 
referred to as ``proof of life.''
                        staging sexual violence
    A disturbing aspect of cartel operations is the sexual exploitation 
that occurs at specific points along the smuggling route. Scholarly 
research spanning over a decade has documented what cartels refer to as 
``rape trees''--designated spots along the route where such 
exploitation takes place. These trees are marked by hanging 
undergarments as a grim symbol of the violence endured by victims (The 
Performative Speech and Silence of Rape Trees: Staging Sexual Violence 
Against Migrant Women in the U.S.-Mexican Borderlands). Tragically, 
during our time on the border, we discovered a rape tree, and our host 
informed us that since our visit, additional undergarments have been 
found on that same tree. We also observed a van used for smuggling 
people to the border, which contained a large amount of undergarments 
that further, further reflecting the pervasive sexual exploitation in 
this area.
                     office of refugee resettlement
    Under the current Presidential administration, the Office of 
Refugee Resettlement (ORR) has processed and sent 329,457 unaccompanied 
children to sponsors between Oct. 2021 and July 2024 In contrast, only 
124,627 children were sent to sponsors during the period from Oct. 2017 
to Sep. 2020. This represents a staggering 164 percent increase, 
highlighting a significant rise in the number of children who are at 
grave risk while being smuggled and trafficked to the border. This 
alarming trend underscored the urgent need for effective policies and 
protections to safeguard these vulnerable children.
    Cartels are actively targeting migrant children for exploitation in 
the United States through the Unaccompanied Children (UC) program, and 
this alarming trend has intensified under the Biden administration. The 
cartels have taken advantage of the fact that the administration no 
longer requires DNA testing to verify familial relationships with child 
sponsors. It is essential for you to understand the dire circumstances 
faced by these innocent unaccompanied children. One heartbreaking case 
involved a little girl who crossed the border in Arizona with 
individuals claiming to be her family, though they were not. This 
situation is tragically common. When she arrived, she had bruises 
covering her legs and complained of stomach pain, prompting her to be 
taken to the hospital as a precaution. There, it was discovered that 
this little girl had been raped. Even more distressingly, despite the 
trauma she endured, she was returned to those who falsely claimed to be 
her family due to the discontinuation of DNA testing. This is a 
horrifying reality that is happening right here in the United States.
    Children in migrant groups are often sold to traffickers when it 
becomes apparent that their families cannot afford the unexpected 
expenses imposed by the coyotes embedded within these smuggling 
networks. In a migrant shelter in McAllen, Texas, a mother who had 
traveled to Texas from Reynosa, Mexico, refused to let her child out of 
her arms. She shared with staff that she had been robbed not only of 
her belongings but also of the 2 other children she had started the 
journey with in Mexico, all because she lacked the money for bribes. 
This heart-wrenching situation underscores the desperation that 
families often endure in their impossible struggle to find safety.
    The strategies employed by cartels are constantly evolving and 
rapidly improving, as they increasingly leverage cloud technology to 
monitor the finances and demographic information of child trafficking 
victims. This creates a digital trail that is often completely 
overlooked. Cartels provide unaccompanied migrant children with the 
names and contact information of individuals designated as potential 
sponsors once the children are processed by the Office of Refugee 
Resettlement.
    Post-placement protections for migrant children are alarmingly 
inadequate. In one instance, law enforcement conducted a welfare check 
on 25 unaccompanied migrant children but could only locate 2 of them. 
Disturbingly, some sponsors reported that the children never arrived at 
their intended destinations. In another troubling instance, a sponsor 
provided an address in Delaware that turned out to be nothing more than 
an open field, raising serious concerns about the safety and legitimacy 
of such sponsorships.
    Based my research, ORR has failed to adequately protect 
unaccompanied children in several critical areas:
   Vetting Sponsors.--There is a significant absence of 
        thorough background checks, leading to children being placed 
        with sponsors who in some cases have turned out to be gang 
        members, individuals on terror watch lists, known pedophiles, 
        or those who ultimately abuse or traffic them.
   Home Studies.--ORR has not conducted home studies to ensure 
        that children are being placed into suitable environments.
   Information Sharing.--The agency does not share sponsor 
        information with State child protective services or law 
        enforcement, hindering efforts to ensure child safety.
   Well-Being Checks.--After a child is placed with a sponsor, 
        ORR makes only a single phone call to check on their well-
        being. If neither the child nor the sponsor answers, no further 
        follow-up is conducted.
   Tracking Unaccompanied Children.--The failure to track 
        unaccompanied children once they are delivered to sponsors has 
        resulted in ICE being unable to issue Notices to Appear (NTAs), 
        exacerbating the risks these children face.
                                 ngo s
    This lack of oversight extends beyond sponsor vetting; through my 
research, I've discovered that the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) 
relies on NGO contractors to manage influx facilities. This raises 
critical concerns about the need for greater accountability within 
these facilities to ensure the safety of migrant children. 
Additionally, NGO's often use staffing agencies to provide personnel, 
which has resulted in inadequately vetted staff having unsupervised 
access to children, without the necessary background checks or security 
clearances.
                               endeavors
    I conducted interviews with auditors tasked with inspecting the NGO 
Endeavors in Pecos, Texas. One auditor explained that while ORR has an 
on-site monitor, they often receive ``filtered information'' from 
Endeavors regarding what is actually happening at the facility. This 
lack of transparency can hinder ORR's ability to be aware of incidents 
and ensure compliance with their policies. A former supervisor at the 
Endeavors facility detailed how, during a surge of unaccompanied 
children, the facility was grossly unprepared. Staff arrived with 
little to no experience or training, and background checks, including 
fingerprinting, were sometimes completed a year after hiring.
    Case managers on-site reported that the same addresses were 
frequently used to sponsor children, raising further red flags about 
the vetting process. Although the facility is designed to accommodate 
children aged 13 to 17, the former supervisor explained that Endeavors 
sometimes knowingly allowed adults to remain, opting not to process the 
paperwork that would alert ICE to their status and prevent deportation. 
The third-party auditor and compliance supervisor also shared that 
Endeavors leadership discouraged her from documenting concerns in 
writing, further obstructing transparency regarding sponsor vetting.
    The dysfunction in the Unaccompanied Children (UC) system is so 
pronounced that during a recent flight from San Diego to Florida, I 
encountered several unaccompanied children on-board. When I inquired 
with the flight attendant about how common it is for unaccompanied 
minors to travel without escorts, she confirmed it is a frequent 
occurrence. She also mentioned that UC migrant children are often taken 
to the wrong airport or dropped off at gates with no waiting sponsors, 
highlighting the systemic issues at play.
    The on-going crisis involving the exploitation of children through 
the UC program underscores the urgent need for reform in how we manage 
this system to mitigate further risks of exploitation and trafficking.
              human trafficking involving juvenile organs
    Building on the systemic issues highlighted earlier, it's crucial 
to address one of the more insidious aspects of human trafficking: 
organ harvesting. Recently, I conducted research in a prison in Central 
America, where I spoke with a former sex trafficker and a member of a 
Mexican cartel incarcerated for arms trafficking. Through these 
discussions, I learned that organ harvesting thrives due to the 
desperate demand from buyers. When families face the anguish of having 
a dying loved one and can't find the needed organ, they often resort to 
traveling to Mexico in search of a solution.
    The trafficker recounted chilling details of witnessing multiple 
organs harvested in Merida, Mexico, noting that such practices are 
alarmingly common in both veterinary clinics and hospitals in the 
region. He emphasized that American buyers frequently seek out these 
illicit organ trades. Disturbingly, news reports from August 2024 
surfaced about 2 American college girls who may have been drugged with 
the intent of having their organs stolen while on the Yucatan 
Peninsula.
    In my conversation with the former sex trafficker and ex-Sinaloa 
cartel member, he revealed the lengths family members will go to for a 
dying relative, illustrating how organ traffickers exploit this 
vulnerability. These traffickers often take what he described as a 
``custom order'' for specific organs and then target areas where 
migrants congregate on their way to the U.S. border. Migrant camps, in 
particular, serve as hotspots for exploitation, leaving individuals 
especially susceptible to these heinous acts.
    The former sex trafficker also pointed out that under the Biden 
administration, human trafficking has escalated, as cartels and gangs 
are reaping substantial profits. Many organizations that previously 
shied away from human smuggling are now deeply involved, capitalizing 
on the current lax immigration policies.
    Despite the grim realities I've uncovered regarding human 
exploitation at the border, I remain hopeful--hopeful in you. I believe 
in the power of bipartisan action to enact meaningful legislation that 
can alleviate the crisis threatening lives. The current immigration 
system fails everyone, and it is imperative to establish legal pathways 
that include proper vetting for entering the United States. We must 
send a clear message to the cartels that the border is no longer open 
and empower Border Patrol with the funding and resources necessary to 
secure the border rather than merely processing migrants who have been 
smuggled into the country.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to share my research and I 
welcome your questions.

    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Ms. Hopper.
    I now recognize Ms. Larin for 5 minutes to summarize her 
opening statement.

     STATEMENT OF KATHRYN A. LARIN, DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION, 
   WORKFORCE, AND INCOME SECURITY, UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 
                     ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE

    Ms. Larin. Chairman Higgins, Chairman Bishop, Ranking 
Member Correa, Ranking Member Ivey, and Members of the 
subcommittees, thank you for inviting me here today to discuss 
GAO's work on the Department of Health and Human Services' 
Office of Refugee Resettlement and its role in the care and 
release of unaccompanied children.
    In reports we issued in 2016 and 2020, we called on the 
agency to better ensure that those who provide care to 
unaccompanied children are qualified, to strengthen its 
oversight and monitoring of facilities housing these children, 
and to better track services that are provided to children 
after they're released to sponsors.
    HHS has made significant progress in addressing our 
recommendations, but, as I will discuss today, more can be done 
to safeguard unaccompanied children.
    Every year, thousands of children enter the United States 
without a parent or guardian and without lawful immigration 
status. The number of unaccompanied children has increased 
substantially over time, from about 14,000 in 2012 to around 
119,000 in 2023. Many of these children have been exposed to 
trauma and violence, and they're at increased risk of becoming 
victims of child trafficking.
    The Office of Refugee Resettlement, or ORR, is the primary 
agency responsible for ensuring the safety and well-being of 
children that enter the country unaccompanied. ORR awards 
grants to providers that care for children in shelters, foster 
homes, treatment facilities, and other types of facilities 
until the children are placed with sponsors. Both State 
licensing agencies and ORR play a role in overseeing the 
facilities to ensure the health and safety of children in their 
care.
    Reports we issued in 2016 and 2020 identified several 
significant lapses in ORR's implementation of policies and 
procedures affecting the quality of care provided to these 
children. Since that time, ORR has taken action to address all 
9 of our recommendations and we have closed 5 recommendations 
as implemented.
    Specifically, with regard to ensuring that care providers 
are qualified to provide care, we found that ORR did not have 
up-to-date and accurate information about whether applicants 
were licensed and, as a result, awarded grants to providers who 
did not have a license to operate or who were unable to obtain 
one.
    We also found that ORR either did not have information or 
did not consider information that they did have about past 
allegations and concerns when awarding the grants, including 
concerns that providers were not meeting standards to protect 
the health and safety of children. As a result, grants were 
renewed even when there were significant outstanding child 
safety concerns uncovered during monitoring.
    We made 3 recommendations to address these gaps, and ORR 
has fully or partially addressed all 3.
    With regard to oversight and monitoring of facilities, we 
also found significant gaps. These ranged from providers not 
consistently notifying ORR about issues that could affect their 
State license to ORR and State licensing agencies failing to 
share information about their activities and findings, which 
could hamper effective oversight.
    We made 4 recommendations to address these deficiencies, 
and ORR has taken action on all 4 and fully addressed 2.
    In addition, we found that ORR was not meeting its own 
monitoring goals. For example, they weren't always notifying 
providers right away when they found a compliance issue, and 
they weren't following up to ensure that issues were resolved 
in a timely way.
    Our recommendation in this area was fully addressed.
    I'd like to turn now to the question of what happens to 
children after they're released from ORR care. In 2016, we 
found there was limited information on follow-up and services 
provided to children after they were placed with sponsors. At 
that time, only a small percentage of children were eligible 
for post-release services, but as of November 2023, all 
children and sponsors are to have 3 virtual check-ins to 
confirm that children are residing with their sponsors, 
enrolled in and attending school, aware of upcoming court 
dates, and are healthy and safe.
    We recommended that ORR develop a process to ensure 
information on its post-release efforts is reliable and 
systematically collected, and this recommendation is still 
relevant and open.
    ORR has taken some action to revamp its case management 
system, to include tracking of children post-release. Officials 
have told us that these enhancements will be complete at the 
end of 2024.
    This concludes my statement, and I'm happy to answer any 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Larin follows:]
                     Statement of Kathryn A. Larin
                           November 19, 2024
                             gao highlights
    Highlights of GAO-25-107840, a testimony before the Subcommittees 
on Border Security and Enforcement and Oversight, Investigations, and 
Accountability, Committee on Homeland Security, House of 
Representatives.
Why GAO Did This Study
    Thousands of children enter the United States without a parent or 
guardian and without lawful immigration status each year. Many 
unaccompanied children have been exposed to trauma and violence and 
travelled great lengths to get to the United States. In addition, 
unaccompanied children may be at greater risk becoming child 
trafficking victims.
    These children are generally referred to ORR for care by the 
Department of Homeland Security. ORR is responsible for coordinating 
and implementing the care and placement of unaccompanied children. In 
fiscal year 2023, ORR cared for about 119,000 unaccompanied children, 
according to agency data.
    This testimony summarizes findings from GAO's 2016 and 2020 reports 
on ORR's role in the care and release of unaccompanied children. It 
provides an update on ORR's efforts to address 9 recommendations 
contained in those reports. The reports identified several significant 
lapses in ORR's implementation of policies and procedures that could 
affect the quality of care provided to these children.
    GAO's 2016 and 2020 reports contain a detailed description of the 
methodology used. Generally, GAO reviewed relevant Federal laws and 
regulations and ORR policies and monitoring documentation. GAO also 
obtained the views of a range of relevant stakeholders such as ORR 
officials, State licensing agencies, staff at grantee facilities, and 
others.
unaccompanied children.--efforts by the office of refugee resettlement 
                     to address gao recommendations
What GAO Found
    The Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee 
Resettlement (ORR) has taken several steps to address prior GAO 
recommendations related to its role in caring for unaccompanied 
children--those that enter the United States without a parent or lawful 
immigration status. ORR awards grants to providers that operate 
facilities to house and care for unaccompanied children.
    In its 2020 report, GAO found that ORR had awarded grants for 219 
facilities operating in 25 States. ORR and State licensing agencies 
each play a role in overseeing facilities and ensuring that they meet 
health and safety standards, among others. Facilities generally must be 
licensed to operate in the State.
    ORR took steps to sufficiently address 5 GAO recommendations, while 
ORR has partially addressed 4 others. The 9 recommendations were 
related to:
   Ensuring care providers are qualified (3 recommendations).--
        GAO's 2020 report found that ORR's grant announcements used to 
        solicit care providers for unaccompanied children were unclear. 
        Specifically, it was unclear what information applicants were 
        to submit on their licensing status and related concerns. This 
        information helps ensure that providers are qualified to care 
        for unaccompanied children. ORR took steps to address 2 
        recommendations that staff verify applicants' licensing and 
        performance information. ORR partially addressed a third 
        recommendation by requiring in recent announcements that 
        applicants report any allegations of abuse or neglect or 
        adverse licensing actions. GAO will close this recommendation 
        when ORR clarifies that applicants should report licensing 
        issues at all facilities that they operate.
   Oversight and monitoring of facilities (3 
        recommendations).--GAO's 2020 report also found that ORR did 
        not provide clear instructions to grantees on including State 
        licensing citations in their performance reports to ORR, which 
        is needed for effective oversight of ORR facilities. ORR 
        addressed 2 of GAO's recommendations by collecting information 
        from its grantees on any State licensing citations and 
        notifying grantees and ORR staff that grantees were required to 
        report this information. ORR also addressed a third 
        recommendation to develop plans to help meet its monitoring 
        goals.
   Information sharing (2 recommendations).--In its 2020 
        report, GAO also found limited information sharing between ORR 
        and State licensing agencies. ORR has partially addressed the 
        recommendations by establishing communication channels and 
        points of contact in some States. GAO will close the 
        recommendations when ORR completes outreach to all States.
   Tracking post-release services (1 recommendation).--GAO's 
        2016 report found that there was limited information available 
        on post-release services that ORR provides. These services 
        include linking families to education and community resources, 
        in-home counseling, and case management. Tracking these 
        services would allow the information to be compiled in summary 
        form and provide useful information to ORR and others. GAO will 
        close this recommendation when ORR completes improvements to 
        its case management system to enable tracking of post-release 
        services.
    Chairmen Higgins and Bishop, Ranking Members Correa and Ivey, and 
Members of the subcommittees:
    Thank you for the opportunity to discuss our work related to the 
Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) Office of Refugee 
Resettlement's (ORR) responsibilities for unaccompanied children. Every 
year, thousands of children enter the United States without a parent or 
guardian and without lawful immigration status. Primary responsibility 
for ensuring the health, safety, and well-being of these children after 
they enter the country lies with ORR.
    In 2016 and 2020, we issued reports related to ORR's role in the 
care and release of unaccompanied children.\1\ These reports identified 
several significant lapses in ORR's implementation of policies and 
procedures that could affect the quality of care provided to these 
children. Our recent efforts have focused on monitoring the agency's 
progress in addressing recommendations contained in those reports.\2\ 
Of 9 recommendations we made in our 2016 and 2020 reports, ORR has 
addressed 5 of them.\3\ ORR has partially addressed the remaining 4 
recommendations.
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    \1\ GAO, Unaccompanied Children: HHS Can Take Further Actions to 
Monitor Their Care, GAO-16-180 (Washington, DC: Feb. 5, 2016) and GAO, 
Unaccompanied Children: Actions Needed to Improve Grant Application 
Reviews and Oversight of Care Facilities, GAO-20-609 (Washington, DC: 
September 15, 2020).
    \2\ We have also issued reports related to the care and custody of 
unaccompanied children while they are in the custody of the Department 
of Homeland Security. For more information, including the status of 
recommendations that we have made in these reports, see: GAO, 
Unaccompanied Alien Children: Actions Needed to Ensure Children Receive 
Required Care in DHS Custody, GAO-15-521 (Washington, DC: July 14, 
2015) and Southwest Border: Actions Needed to Improve DHS Processing of 
Families and Coordination between DHS and HHS, GAO-20-245. (Washington, 
DC: February 19, 2020).
    \3\ There are a total of 11 recommendations contained in our 2016 
and 2020 reports. Nine are discussed in this testimony. This testimony 
does not discuss 2 recommendations in the 2016 report, 1 of which 
relates to how ORR determines the number of beds needed to house 
unaccompanied children, and 1 of which is similar to a monitoring-
related recommendation in our 2020 report. ORR has addressed both these 
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    My statement today will focus on ORR's efforts related to: (1) 
ensuring care providers are qualified; (2) overseeing and monitoring 
facilities that care for unaccompanied children; and (3) tracking 
services that are provided to these children after they are released to 
sponsors. My statement is based primarily on the findings from our 2016 
and 2020 reports. Each of our prior reports contains a detailed 
description of the methodology we used. Generally, we reviewed relevant 
Federal laws and regulations and ORR policies and monitoring 
documentation. We also obtained the views of a range of relevant 
stakeholders such as ORR officials, State licensing agencies, staff at 
ORR grantee facilities, and others.
    The work upon which this statement is based was conducted in 
accordance with generally accepted Government auditing standards. Those 
standards require that we plan and perform the audit to obtain 
sufficient, appropriate evidence to provide a reasonable basis for our 
findings and conclusions based on our audit objectives. We believe that 
the evidence obtained provides a reasonable basis for our findings and 
conclusions based on our audit objectives.
                               background
    Unaccompanied children are those who arrive in the United States 
without lawful immigration status and without a parent or guardian 
available to provide care and physical custody for them. These children 
are generally referred to ORR for care by the Department of Homeland 
Security.\4\ ORR is responsible for coordinating and implementing the 
care and placement of unaccompanied children.
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    \4\ Generally, children are to be transferred from DHS to HHS 
custody within 72 hours after a determination is made that they are 
unaccompanied children. In past work, we have recommended that both DHS 
and HHS should collaborate to address information-sharing gaps to 
ensure that ORR receives information needed to make decisions for 
unaccompanied children, including those apprehended with an adult. The 
departments concurred with these recommendations and they have been 
partially addressed based on a number of steps DHS and HHS have taken 
to better share information on unaccompanied children. As of September 
2024, the departments are continuing to work on a new interagency 
agreement to govern information sharing. GAO-20-245.
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    ORR is required to promptly place unaccompanied children in its 
custody in the least restrictive setting that is in the best interest 
of the child. In addition, ORR must provide proper physical care, 
including suitable living accommodations, and appropriate medical care 
and educational services. According to ORR, all children in its care 
receive classroom education, mental and physical health services, case 
management, recreation, and unification services that facilitate their 
release to family members or other sponsors who can care for them. ORR 
awards grants to care providers that operate facilities to house and 
care for unaccompanied children.\5\ The majority of children in ORR 
custody are cared for in shelter facilities. However, some are cared 
for in other settings, such as secure shelters for children with an 
offender history or residential treatment centers for children with 
diagnosed mental health disorders. In 2020, we reported that ORR had 
awarded grants for 219 facilities operating in 25 States.\6\
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    \5\ The grants are cooperative agreements that are funded for a 3-
year project period. Funds are awarded for the second and third years 
based on approved continuation applications, subject to satisfactory 
progress by the grantee and a determination that continued funding 
would be in the best interest of the Federal Government.
    \6\ GAO-20-609.
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    ORR and State licensing agencies each play a role in overseeing 
facilities and ensuring that they meet health and safety standards, 
among other things. With a few exceptions, facilities must be licensed 
to operate in the State.\7\ Generally, both State licensing agencies 
and ORR monitor the facilities.
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    \7\ In 2021, Texas and Florida State agencies that had previously 
licensed ORR grantee facilities were directed to discontinue these 
licenses. In States that do not allow State licensing of programs 
providing care and services to unaccompanied children, ORR expects 
these facilities to meet the State's licensing requirements that would 
otherwise be applicable. In addition, ORR funds facilities, which may 
be unlicensed, to provide temporary additional bed capacity during 
emergencies or influx periods. ORR provides additional monitoring to 
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    The number of unaccompanied children referred to ORR for care has 
increased substantially over time. In fiscal year 2012, nearly 14,000 
children were referred to ORR. By fiscal year 2019, this number rose to 
more than 69,000 children. The agency's most recent data show that ORR 
cared for about 119,000 unaccompanied children in fiscal year 2023.\8\ 
Many unaccompanied children have been exposed to trauma and violence 
and travelled great lengths to get to the United States. In addition, 
unaccompanied children may be at greater risk of child trafficking 
victimization.\9\
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    \8\ Department of Health and Human Services Office of Refugee 
Resettlement, ``Fact Sheets and Data'', https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/
about/ucs/facts-and-data.
    \9\ GAO, Child Trafficking: Addressing Challenges to Public 
Awareness and Survivor Support, GAO-24-106038 (Washington, DC: December 
11, 2023). Child trafficking generally refers to human trafficking 
involving individuals under the age of 18. Children may be trafficked 
for the purposes of commercial sexual exploitation, forced labor, or 
both. Survivors of child trafficking may suffer harmful, long-lasting 
effects, such as depression, suicidal thoughts, and substance use 
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  orr took steps to address 2 of 3 recommendations aimed at ensuring 
       providers caring for unaccompanied children are qualified
    Our 2020 report found that ORR's grant announcements used to 
solicit facilities to provide care for unaccompanied children were 
unclear about information applicants were required to submit regarding 
their licensing status or related concerns and past allegations of 
abuse or neglect. As a result, applicants provided inconsistent 
information.\10\
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    State licensing concerns may arise when providers do not meet 
certain standards, including standards related to the health and safety 
of children in care. We also found that ORR did not systematically 
confirm the State licensure information submitted by applicants or 
document a review of their past performance on ORR grants, when 
applicable.
    Reviewing and obtaining consistent information on State licensure 
status and grantee past performance are key parts of ensuring that ORR 
providers are qualified to operate facilities to care for unaccompanied 
children. Taking these steps helps ORR reduce the likelihood of 
awarding grants to organizations that cannot obtain a State license or 
have a history of poor performance.
    To address these concerns, we made 3 recommendations to ORR. The 
agency has taken steps to address 2 of them and has partially addressed 
the third recommendation (see table 1).

    TABLE 1: STATUS OF GAO RECOMMENDATIONS TO ORR RELATED TO ENSURING CARE PROVIDERS ARE QUALIFIED TO OPERATE
                           FACILITIES FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN, AS OF SEPTEMBER 2024
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The director of ORR should clarify    ORR's recent grant announcements      Open: partially addressed.
 in its grant announcements the        have required applicants to report   We will close this recommendation
 information and supporting            allegations of abuse and/or           when ORR releases future grant
 documentation applicants are          neglect, as well as any denial,       announcements clarifying that
 required to provide in their grant    suspension, and/or revocation of      applicants are to report licensing
 applications with respect to their    their license over the prior 5        issues at all facilities that they
 State licensing status,               years.                                operate.
 eligibility, and allegations and
 concerns.
The director of ORR should take       ORR updated its guide for staff       Closed: implemented.
 steps to develop, and ensure that     reviewing grant applications and
 officials reviewing grant             training curriculum to add
 applications implement a process to   instructions for assessing
 verify the accuracy and               licensing information included in
 completeness of information           grant applications. Staff are to
 reported by grant applicants on       determine whether the applicant is
 State licensing status,               currently licensed and in good
 eligibility, allegations, and         standing in the State in which it
 concerns.                             is proposing to provide services.
                                       Staff are instructed to take steps
                                       to verify the grantee's license and
                                       determine whether it has any
                                       disciplinary actions against it.
The director of ORR should ensure     ORR updated its staff guidance and    Closed: implemented.
 that the grant review process         training curriculum on conducting
 includes a documented review of       and documenting reviews of grantee
 applicants' past performance on ORR   performance. ORR staff are to use
 grants for those that have            information from grantee quarterly
 previously received grants to care    progress reports to ensure grantee
 for unaccompanied children. This      performance is satisfactory and
 could include, for example, a         determine whether funding should be
 systematic review of previous         continued for another budget
 quarterly and annual performance      period. Staff are directed to pay
 reports and a review of corrective    particular attention to grantees'
 actions issued by all ORR             descriptions of any issues they
 monitoring staff to all ORR-funded    experienced in the past reporting
 facilities previously operated by     period. This includes all
 the applicant.                        documented State licensing
                                       allegations or concerns, any
                                       corrective actions issued by ORR or
                                       others, and the steps the grantee
                                       took to resolve these issues.
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Source: GAO-20-609 and GAO review of Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) documentation./GAO-25-107840.

    orr addressed 3 of 5 recommendations related to state licensing 
citations, information sharing, and monitoring of facilities caring for 
                         unaccompanied children
    ORR facilities generally must be licensed by a State licensing 
agency to provide residential care and services for unaccompanied 
children, or meet State licensing requirements if they are located in a 
State that does not allow State licensing of programs providing care 
and services to unaccompanied children, as previously noted.\11\ States 
set the minimum standards of care for their facilities, including those 
related to child health and safety and physical building standards. 
State licensing agencies issue citations to State-licensed ORR grantees 
if licensing violations are found and grantees are expected to address 
them.
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requirements, such as those related to fire, health, and other safety 
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    Our 2020 report found 2 areas lacking clarity regarding grantees' 
reporting of State licensing citations to ORR.\12\ First, ORR did not 
provide clear instructions to grantees on whether and how they should 
include State licensing citations in their quarterly performance 
reports to ORR. Second, some ORR staff did not have a clear 
understanding of what grantees should report to them about State 
licensing citations. As we reported in 2020, ORR needs this information 
to have a record of State licensing deficiencies and whether they were 
addressed and to conduct effective oversight of ORR facilities.
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    To address these concerns, we made 2 recommendations to ORR that 
have been implemented by the agency (see table 2).

 TABLE 2: STATUS OF GAO RECOMMENDATIONS TO ORR RELATED TO GRANTEE REPORTING OF STATE LICENSING CITATIONS, AS OF
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The director of ORR should clarify    ORR is using its grantee quarterly    Closed: implemented.
 in its instructions to grantees the   performance report to collect
 information they are required to      information on any State licensing
 report on State licensing citations   citations a grantee received during
 in their quarterly performance        the quarter. ORR sent an email
 reports.                              notifying grantees that they were
                                       required either to report any State
                                       licensing citations, suspensions,
                                       or revocations that the grantee or
                                       any subrecipients had received
                                       during the quarter or affirmatively
                                       note that no such licensing issues
                                       had occurred.
The director of ORR should take       ORR updated its staff training        Closed: implemented.
 steps, such as through guidance or    materials to clearly state that
 training, to ensure that project      grantees must report a license
 officers clearly understand the       revocation or suspension to ORR
 requirement that grantees report      within 24 hours and that licensing
 State licensing citations at any of   citations should be reported in the
 their facilities within 24 hours      section of the quarterly
 and include State licensing           performance reports on significant
 citations in their quarterly          findings and events.
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Source: GAO-20-609 and GAO review of Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) documentation./GAO-25-107840.

    Our 2020 report also found that information sharing between ORR and 
State licensing agencies was limited. In addition, State licensing 
agencies and ORR staff said that improved information sharing would 
benefit their monitoring of facilities. Information sharing between ORR 
and State licensing agencies is important to ensure that both entities 
are aware of on-going issues at ORR facilities.
    To address these concerns, we made 2 recommendations, which ORR has 
partially addressed (see table 3).

  TABLE 3: STATUS OF GAO RECOMMENDATIONS TO ORR RELATED TO INFORMATION SHARING BETWEEN ORR AND STATE LICENSING
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The director of ORR should work with  ORR is working to connect with State  Open: partially addressed.
 State agencies that license ORR-      licensing agencies to establish      We will close this recommendation
 funded facilities to develop a plan   communication channels to discuss     when HHS has demonstrated its
 for mutual information sharing,       any questions about licensing         outreach to all States where it has
 including processes for ORR           requirements that arise during the    licensed grantee facilities about
 outreach to States during the grant   grant application review process.     developing information-sharing
 application review process and on-    According to ORR, its goal is to      protocols.
 going information sharing on ORR      develop mutually beneficial
 and State monitoring processes and    information-sharing relationships.
 identified deficiencies.              ORR has entered into a Memorandum
                                       of Agreement with 1 State licensing
                                       agency.
The director of ORR should ensure     ORR had a list of points of contact   Open: partially addressed.
 that ORR provides and maintains a     at 49 States' licensing agencies,    We will close this recommendation
 current point of contact for each     as of February 2024. According to     when ORR has demonstrated that it
 State agency that licenses ORR        ORR, it plans to update the           has provided an ORR point of
 grantees to facilitate information    spreadsheet quarterly.                contact to State licensing agencies
 sharing regarding ORR-funded                                                to whom they can direct questions
 facilities.                                                                 or concerns.
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Source: GAO-20-609 and GAO review of Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) documentation./GAO-25-107840.

    With respect to monitoring, ORR requires grantees to take 
corrective action to address noncompliance it identifies through 
monitoring. Our 2020 report found that ORR had not met some of its 
monitoring goals or notified grantees of the need for corrective 
actions in a timely manner.\13\ We also found that ORR had not ensured 
the facilities it funded were audited for compliance with standards to 
prevent and respond to sexual abuse and sexual harassment of children 
in their care, as required by ORR regulations. Without action, ORR 
risked continuing to not meet its own monitoring goals and 
requirements, which are designed to ensure the safety and well-being of 
children in its care.
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    To address these concerns, we made 1 recommendation, which ORR has 
implemented. Our recommendation called on ORR to develop a plan to 
guide and focus the agency's efforts to meet its goals to:
   conduct on-site monitoring visits to each facility at least 
        every 2 years in accordance with ORR policy,
   report any noncompliance to the facility within 30 days of 
        the site visit, in accordance with ORR policy, and
   conduct an audit of each facility's compliance with ORR 
        standards on preventing and responding to sexual assault.
    ORR fully addressed our recommendation by developing plans to 
address these issues. One plan for calendar year 2024 articulates ORR's 
goals to increase its workforce capacity to meet monitoring needs and 
submit monitoring reports within ORR's required time frames. It also 
identifies targets, time frames, and staff responsible for meeting its 
on-site facility monitoring goals. In addition, in October 2021, ORR 
contracted with an outside organization to conduct compliance audits 
related to preventing and responding to sexual assault, and this 
contract specifies time frames for conducting the audits.
    Going forward, continued work remains for ORR to meet the targets 
established in its plan. According to ORR officials, they lack the 
staff resources to fully meet their goals for increased monitoring of 
some facilities. For example, ORR documentation shows that as of April 
2024, staff had met the requirement to monitor all of its standard, 
State-licensed facilities within a 2-year period. However, 24 
facilities in Texas and Florida, which no longer license ORR grantees, 
were overdue for the more frequent, quarterly visits ORR now conducts 
to these facilities.\14\ Further, in fiscal year 2023, ORR 
documentation shows that on average ORR staff took 31 days after a 
monitoring visit to submit the report to the facility, instead of the 
30 days required to notify each facility as outlined by ORR policy. For 
7 facilities, staff took over 45 days to send the report.
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    With respect to auditing facilities' compliance with standards on 
preventing and responding to sexual assault, as of October 2023, ORR's 
new contractor had conducted audits at all facilities that had not been 
audited by the original contractor within the initial 3-year period set 
in regulation, according to ORR officials.\15\ These officials told us 
they anticipated audits at an additional 70 facilities would be 
completed by October 2024. In addition, officials said that a newly-
formed Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect team within ORR was 
working with the contractor to ensure they meet the time lines 
specified in the contract going forward.
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audited at least once within 3 years of February 22, 2016, and during 
each 3-year period thereafter. 45 C.F.R.  411.111(a).
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orr has partially addressed 1 recommendation related to grantee follow-
     up with children and their sponsor after release from orr care
    In 2016, we reported that there was limited information available 
on post-release services provided to children after they leave ORR 
care.\16\ Since that report, ORR has made changes to the timing and 
frequency of certain post-release services.\17\ Specifically, in 
November 2023, ORR reported that post-release services providers would 
become responsible for a series of 3 virtual check-ins with all 
children and sponsors.\18\ These providers would be expected to confirm 
that children are residing with their sponsors, enrolled in and 
attending school, aware of upcoming court dates, and healthy and safe.
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    \17\ At the time of our 2016 report, ORR provided post-release 
services to a small number of children, such as those who were victims 
of trafficking. ORR also conducted safety and well-being calls for all 
unaccompanied children released to sponsors. ORR guidance required the 
calls to occur 30 days after children were released from ORR care to 
sponsors. Staff were required to make a reasonable effort to contact 
the children and document the results of the call in the children's 
case files.
    \18\ From November 30, 2023 through July 31, 2024, unaccompanied 
children were most commonly released from ORR care to a sponsor that 
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    Our recommendation from 2016 remains relevant. We recommended that 
ORR develop a process to ensure all information collected through its 
post-release efforts are reliable and systematically collected. Doing 
so, would allow this information to be compiled in summary form and 
provide useful information to other entities internally and externally.
    ORR has begun taking some actions to address this recommendation, 
including awarding a contract in September 2023 to revamp its case 
management system known as the UC Portal. According to ORR, the 
contractor will replace and build technology to support the recent 
expansion of post-release services. The agency reported that responses 
from the virtual check-ins, including information on services provided, 
will be collected directly into the UC Portal.\19\ In November 2023, 
ORR updated the UC Portal to include additional tracking of children 
post-release, including screens to update the child's current location, 
history of the child's moves, and whom the child is living with.
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include linking families to educational and community resources, home 
visits, case management, in-home counseling, and other social welfare 
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    ORR reported that by the end of 2024, the Portal will be updated 
further to enhance and digitize information on post-release services. 
We are continuing to monitor ORR's efforts to address this 
recommendation and will close it once ORR completes improvements to the 
UC Portal and demonstrates that it can use the portal to collect 
reliable post-release services data and disseminate it internally and 
externally, as appropriate.
    Chairmen Higgins and Bishop, Ranking Members Correa and Ivey, and 
Members of the subcommittees, this completes my prepared statement. I 
would be pleased to respond to any questions that you may have at this 
time.

    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Ms. Larin.
    I now recognize Ms. Rodas for 5 minutes to summarize her 
opening statement.

STATEMENT OF TARA LEE RODAS, PRIVATE CITIZEN, FORMER DEPUTY TO 
    THE DIRECTOR OF THE FEDERAL CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM, U.S. 
            DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

    Ms. Rodas. Good afternoon, Chairman Higgins, Chairman 
Bishop, Ranking Member Correa, Ranking Member Ivey, and 
distinguished Members of the committees. I thank you for 
inviting me to testify at this critical hearing on the crisis 
of trafficked, exploited, and a staggering 320,000 missing 
migrant children.
    Today, my goal is to spark action to rescue children, 
prosecute traffickers, and dismantle trafficking 
infrastructure. We must prevent children from being lost into 
slave labor, commercial sex, organ harvesting, and other 
unspeakable evils.
    Migrant children are working overnight shifts in 
slaughterhouses and factories, and some may die today because 
they don't have the knowledge or skills to do the job that 
they're supposed to be doing, but they're doing it because they 
need to repay debts to their smugglers and traffickers.
    Children, boys and girls, are being sold for sex. Just last 
month, I spoke with a care provider in Florida who told me 
about cases of migrant children as young as 8 with sexually 
transmitted diseases--8 years old.
    Last week, I spoke with a private investigator in Texas who 
shared challenges trying to find an emergency shelter for this 
one girl--she's only 12--an unaccompanied minor who was 9 
months pregnant and about to go into labor.
    How did we get here? How did we get here?
    For over a decade, the United States Department of Health 
and Human Services has been responsible for the suffering of 
countless children. HHS has a 10-year, demonstrated record of 
losing children to sponsors who abuse, exploit, traffic, and 
harm children in unthinkable ways.
    Now, to be fair to HHS, they are not an investigative or 
law enforcement agency. HHS simply does not have the knowledge, 
skills, ability, or the tradecraft to protect children from 
traffickers.
    Child trafficking has evolved into an international 
syndicate of gangs and cartels. It's highly organized and 
efficient. It mirrors the tactics and operations of terrorist 
organizations.
    Smugglers and traffickers have moved more than 500,000 
children. They flooded across our borders, and we have 
delivered them to criminals and traffickers and members of 
transnational criminal organizations, who are using the UC 
program as a white-glove delivery service of children. Criminal 
sponsors are defrauding the U.S. Government by using this 
Government program as a logistical chain in their trafficking 
operation.
    These children are not merely victims; they are hostages of 
transnational criminals and the financial backbone of material 
support for organizations seeking to profit off of the lives of 
children. This simply must change.
    Now, there is hope if we act with urgency. Let's implement 
simple safety measures like DNA testing for children and their 
sponsors. Let's implement stringent--stringent--penalties, like 
prison, for sponsors who are unable to produce the children 
they are in charge of.
    Again, there's hope if we act, but action must include 
oversight, transparency, and accountability.
    Now, according to oversight conducted by Senator Grassley, 
who's been a true champion of these endangered children, HHS 
failed to fully comply with subpoenas that were issued by DHS 
to investigate evidence of child exploitation the Senator 
referred to law enforcement earlier this year.
    That's just simply unacceptable. HHS should be commanded to 
comply with the Inspector General Empowerment Act to enable 
cross-agency data sharing.
    Let's treat child trafficking as the national security 
threat that it truly is. Let's mobilize the full power of our 
intelligence and law enforcement communities to dismantle these 
criminal networks.
    No. 1, we can elevate the activity of child trafficking on 
the NIPF, which is the National Intelligence Priorities 
Framework.
    No. 2, we can designate child trafficking as a terrorist 
activity so that centers like the National Counterterrorism 
Center, the Terrorist Screening Center, the National Targeting 
Center can provide the manpower, the tradecraft, and immediate 
implementation of targeting these trafficking networks.
    Every child lost to the current system is a tragedy. We 
cannot be a Nation that looks the other way. We have a moral 
imperative to care for children that the Government takes into 
custody. The time to act is now. Children are in need now. 
Children are depending on you now.
    I thank you for your time and your attention to this crisis 
of these trafficked, exploited, and missing children. I am 
happy to answer any questions that you may have.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Rodas follows:]
                  Prepared Statement of Tara Lee Rodas
                       Tuesday, November 19, 2024
    Chairman Higgins, Chairman Bishop, Ranking Member Correa, Ranking 
Member Ivey and distinguished Members of the committee: Thank you for 
inviting me to testify at this critical hearing on the crisis of 
trafficked, exploited, and missing migrant children. Chairman Bishop, I 
thank you for joining Senator Grassley and more than 40 other 
legislators in signing the letter to President Biden and Vice President 
Harris urging them to stop covering up the migrant child crisis.\1\
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    \1\ Grassley Leads Bicameral Colleagues in Calling Out Abuses in 
the Biden-Harris Unaccompanied Migrant Children Program (senate.gov).
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    Today, my goal is to spark action: (1) action to rescue children 
and (2) action to prevent children from being lost in slave labor,\2\ 
commercial sex,\3\ organ harvesting,\4\ and other unspeakable evils.\5\ 
\6\ Prior to action, it's critical to obtain a comprehensive and 
detailed understanding of the data and information from all parties 
involved, including but not limited to HHS, DHS, and DOJ, as authorized 
under the Inspector General (IG) Empowerment Act of 2016.\7\ \8\
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    \2\ Grassley Highlights Exploitation and Abuse of Migrant Children 
During Senate Roundtable.
    \3\ Ibid.
    \4\ Central American trafficker describes what happens to children 
at the hands of cartels (youtube.com).
    \5\ https://youtu.be/Mp9E5nkr-wQ?si=m1k_l3jK-28Rbva.
    \6\ RECORDS: HHS Sent Unaccompanied Minors to Sponsors with MS-13 
Ties, Potential Trafficking Rings (senate.gov).
    \7\ CIGIE Statement on the Signing of the IG Empowerment Act.pdf 
(ignet.gov).
    \8\ BILLS-114hr6450enr.pdf (Congress.gov).
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    Today, as we speak, children are preparing to work grueling 
overnight shifts in slaughterhouses, restaurants, and factories.\9\ 
Some children may die today in jobs they don't have the knowledge or 
skills to do \10\ in order to repay never-ending debts to their 
smugglers and traffickers.\11\ Today, children are being sold for 
sex.\12\ Some children, girls and boys, will get sexually transmitted 
diseases.\13\ Some girls--as young as 12, 11, or even 10 years old--
will give birth to children of their own. ``Forced labor and 
prostitution among underage migrants have more than tripled under [the 
current administration].''\14\ Today, desperate children will call 
hotlines, to report they are being abused, neglected, and 
trafficked.\15\
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    \9\ Slaughterhouse series/NBC News.
    \10\ Children Risk Their Lives Building America's Roofs--The New 
York Times (nytimes.com).
    \11\ Finding The Feds' Missing Children/CHILD TRAFFICKING IN 
AMERICA (muckraker.com).
    \12\ U.S. Department of Health & Human Services Whistleblower 
Reveals `Tax Dollars' Spent to `Put Migrant Children in the Hands of 
Criminals'/Project Veritas.
    \13\ Health Department released thousands of illegal immigrant kids 
with latent tuberculosis infections--Washington Times.
    \14\ Inside America's Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex 
Trafficking/The Free Press.
    \15\ Alone and Exploited--The New York Times (nytimes.com).
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    For at least a decade, the United States Department of Health and 
Human Services (HHS) has been responsible for the suffering of 
countless children.\16\ This assessment is based solely on the 
information currently available;\17\ however, it has been established 
that the unknown factors significantly outweigh what is known. This 
MUST change.
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    \16\ Majority & Minority Staff Report--Protecting Unaccompanied 
Alien Children from Trafficking and Other Abuses 2016-01-282.pdf 
(senate.gov).
    \17\ 21st SW Grand Jury Releases Shocking Report/My Florida Legal.
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    I'm confident we all agree that children should be protected and 
defended. HHS has failed at that mission. HHS has a 10-year 
demonstrated record \18\ of losing children to sponsors who traffick, 
exploit, and harm children in unthinkable ways (see 2-Page Fact Sheet).
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    \18\ Overwhelmed Federal officials released immigrant teens to 
traffickers in 2014--The Washington Post.
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    To be fair, HHS is not an investigative or law enforcement 
agency.\19\ They simply do not have the knowledge, skills, ability, or 
tradecraft to protect children from traffickers. President-elect Donald 
Trump's nominee for HHS Secretary, Robert Kennedy, Jr., is aware of 
this crisis and his talented team is discussing solutions to end this 
crisis.
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    \19\ carey-testimony.pdf (house.gov).
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    Child trafficking has evolved into an international syndicate of 
gangs \20\ and cartels that is highly organized and very efficient. 
Smugglers and traffickers, during this administration, have moved many 
of the more than 500,000 unaccompanied children that have flooded 
across the U.S. Southern Border.\21\ James O'Keefe's film ``Line In The 
Sand'' shows exactly how children are moved through a vast network of 
NGO's and delivered to sponsors.\22\
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    \20\ Gangs and Human Trafficking/National Gang Center (ojp.gov).
    \21\ Scott, Grassley, and Bicameral Colleagues Call Out Abuses in 
the Biden-Harris Unaccompanied Migrant Children Program--U.S. Senator 
Tim Scott of South Carolina (senate.gov).
    \22\ Line in the Sand Movie.
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    Sadly, due to the failed open border policies of the Biden-Harris 
administration, we have delivered these unaccompanied children to 
criminals, traffickers, and members of transnational criminal 
organizations \23\ who are using the UC Program as a white glove 
delivery service of children. These criminal sponsors are defrauding 
the U.S. Government by using the UC Program as the logistical chain of 
their child trafficking operation.\24\
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    \23\ (460) DHS Insider Blows Whistle on Int'l Child Sex Trafficking 
Gangs Exploiting `Reasonable Fear' Loophole--YouTube.
    \24\ rodas-testimony.pdf (house.gov).
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    In June 2021, while serving at Pomona Fairplex Emergency Intake 
Site (EIS) as the deputy to the director of the Federal Case Management 
Team, I (and the Team) began reporting suspicious sponsor and suspected 
trafficking cases. In June 2021, we thought less than 50 children were 
affected. After funneling more than 8,300 children through the EIS in 
less than 6 months, we knew thousands were affected. In February 2023 
we learned from Hannah Dreier at the NYT that 85,000 children were 
missing.\25\
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    \25\ Alone and Exploited--The New York Times (nytimes.com).
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    Yet no action has been taken to rescue children. No action was 
taken to prevent other children from being lost in slave labor, 
commercial sex, organ harvesting, and other unspeakable evils.
    Then, in July 2024, we learned that the Biden-Harris administration 
has lost track of more than 320,000 children.\26\ \27\ \28\ HHS ignored 
warning signals, demonstrated they were unable to identify trafficking 
patterns and went so far as to establish a fundamentally flawed 
rule,\29\ which demonstrated a clear inability to comprehend the 
emerging threat landscape, accurately identify trafficking patterns, 
and recognize critical indicators and warnings. Meanwhile, forced labor 
and prostitution among underage migrants has more than tripled.\30\
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    \26\ Biden-Harris admin loses track of 320,000 migrant children--
with untold numbers at risk of sex trafficking and forced labor 
(msn.com).
    \27\ Management Alert--ICE Cannot Monitor All Unaccompanied Migrant 
Children Released from DHS and U.S. Department of Health and Human 
Services' Custody.
    \28\ https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1845201479818412334 [Bob 
Unanue, CEO of Goya Foods].
    \29\ Grassley and Senate Republicans Demand Changes to Biden Admin 
Rule Endangering Safety and Wellbeing of Unaccompanied Alien Children.
    \30\ Inside America's Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex 
Trafficking/The Free Press (thefp.com).
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    It's astonishing. How can this happen? It happens because HHS lacks 
oversight, transparency, and accountability.
    HHS must commit to oversight, transparency, and accountability.
    The UC Portal database is the official system of record for the UC 
Program. Currently, HHS denies direct access to the UC Portal data to 
law enforcement and others who could use it to identify trafficking 
activity, rescue exploited children and conduct critical oversight of 
the UC placement program.\31\ But, there are simple data sharing and 
data analytics solutions \32\ that will lead to the rescue of children, 
the prosecution of criminal sponsors & traffickers, and the dismantling 
of trafficking infrastructure.
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    \31\ Grassley Leads Bicameral Colleagues in Calling Out Abuses in 
the Biden-Harris Unaccompanied Migrant Children Program (senate.gov).
    \32\ Statement of Michael E. Horowitz, concerning ``Overseeing the 
Overseers: Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and 
Efficiency @ 10 Years'' (pandemicoversight.gov).
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    Data from the UC Portal database needs to be examined by expert 
data analysts in the inspector general (IG) community. The IG 
Empowerment Act of 2016 granted IGs the ability to request and match 
datasets across Federal agencies by exempting IGs from the Computer 
Matching Act.\33\
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    \33\ BILLS-114hr6450enr.pdf (Congress.gov).
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    Children could be rescued, criminal sponsors and traffickers could 
be prosecuted, and trafficking networks could be dismantled if the IG 
had direct access to data in the UC Portal database and could match it 
with other data at agencies, not limited to but including, DHS and DOJ. 
It's unthinkable that HHS Secretary Becerra is withholding critical 
information regarding children and their sponsors, that could save the 
lives of children.\34\ \35\
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    \34\ April 17, 2024--Attorney General Miyares Demands Biden 
Administration Address Missing Migrant Children Crisis (state.va.us)
    \35\ 02-22-ia-ms-ut-dhs-fbi-auc-final.pdf (scag.gov).
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    It's devastating to know that after nearly 3\1/2\ years of sounding 
the alarm, no significant action has been taken to rescue children. 
According to oversight conducted by Senator Grassley, who has been a 
true champion for these endangered children for the last decade, HHS 
failed to fully comply even with subpoenas issued by DHS as it 
investigated evidence of child exploitation he referred to law 
enforcement earlier this year.\36\ At least in part because of this 
obstruction, law enforcement was able to find less than 4 percent of 
their targets (children and sponsors).\37\ This must stop, and sharing 
of this data will help stop it.
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    \36\ Grassley Alerts DHS, FBI to Evidence of Human Trafficking; 
Calls for Immediate Action to Locate & Rescue Migrant Children 
(senate.gov).
    \37\ Grassley Leads Bicameral Colleagues in Calling Out Abuses in 
the Biden-Harris Unaccompanied Migrant Children Program (senate.gov).
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    In the new administration, there are simple fixes that Border Czar 
Tom Homan, HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy, Jr., DHS Secretary Kristi 
Noem, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, and others can 
do to defend and protect children:
   implement simple safety measures to include but not limited 
        to DNA testing
   implement stringent penalties, including but not limited to 
        imprisonment for sponsors who are unable to account for a 
        child's whereabouts
   hold release of all children until we rescue the missing 
        children
   order HHS to share their data and comply with The IG 
        Empowerment Act \38\ \39\
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    \38\ CIGIE Statement on the Signing of the IG Empowerment Act.pdf.
    \39\ BILLS-114hr6450enr.pdf.
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   elevate the activity of child trafficking on the National 
        Intelligence Priorities Framework \40\
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    \40\ ICD_204_National_Intelligence_Priorities_Framework_U_FINAL-
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   designate child trafficking as a terrorist activity so that 
        centers such as the National Counterterrorism Center \41\CTC), 
        Terrorist Screening Center \42\ (TSC), and National Targeting 
        Center \43\ (NTC) can provide manpower, tradecraft, and 
        immediate implementation of targeting trafficking networks.
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    \41\ NCTC Home.
    \42\ Terrorist Screening Center--FBI.
    \43\ CBP National Targeting Center/U.S. Customs and Border 
Protection.
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    In closing, I'm confident we all agree that children should be 
defended and protected. I'm eager to work with you to:
    1. Rescue Children
    2. Prosecute Traffickers and other Criminal ``Sponsors''
    3. Dismantle Trafficking Infrastructure.
    Thank you for your time and attention to the crisis of trafficked, 
exploited, and missing migrant children.
    I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
 2-Page Overview of Child Trafficking in HHS's Unaccompanied Children 
                              (UC) Program
                                summary
    Smugglers and child traffickers are recruiting, harboring, and 
transporting children to the United States; using force, fraud, and 
coercion; for the purpose of involuntary servitude, debt bondage, 
slavery, commercial sex, and possibly forced organ harvesting. By 
exploiting flawed policies and deficiencies in the U.S. Department of 
Health and Human Services' (HHS) Administration for Children & Families 
(ACF) Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) Unaccompanied Children (UC) 
Program, a sophisticated network of smugglers and traffickers are using 
the U.S. Government as part of the logistical chain of their child 
trafficking operation. Although the causes of the recent surge of 
Unaccompanied Children (UCs) is debated, all stakeholders agree one 
reason migrant children make the perilous journey to the United States 
is they are ``brought into the United States by human trafficking 
rings.'' (As per HHS's Fact Sheet).
documentation of a dark decade of child trafficking in hhs's uc program
   2014 newspaper article highlighting the failures of HHS to 
        protect minors from trafficking: Overwhelmed Federal officials 
        released immigrant teens to traffickers in 2014--The Washington 
        Post
   Senator Rob Portman's opening remarks at the 2016 
        Congressional hearing on HHS placement of migrant children 
        highlighting how HHS placed UCs in the hands of traffickers: 
        Portman's Opening Remarks--HHS Puts Children in the Hands of 
        Traffickers
   The 2016 Congressional report highlighting HHS's failure to 
        protect children from trafficking: Majority & Minority Staff 
        Report--Protecting Unaccompanied Alien Children from 
        Trafficking and Other Abuses 2016-01-282.pdf (senate.gov)
   The FRONTLINE documentary ``Trafficked in America'' 
        highlighting how teenagers from Central America were smuggled 
        into the United States by traffickers who promised them jobs 
        and a better life--only to force them to live and work in 
        virtual slavery to pay off their debt. Trafficked in America 
        (full documentary)/FRONTLINE_YouTube
   August 21, 2021 and October 21, 2021 interviews of DHS 
        Whistleblower, Aaron Stevenson, who exposed how MS-13 and other 
        Transnational Criminal Organizations are sponsoring children 
        through the HHS UC Program.
   DHS Insider MS-13 (August 2021 interview in the shadows)
   DHS Insider Goes PUBLIC (October 2021 on the record)
   U.S. probes trafficking of teen migrants in August 2021 
        Trafficking Teen Migrants for Poultry-Plant Work
   August 2022 news article on HHS's child trafficking 
        operation: child-trafficking-operation-at-southern-border
   August 2022 interview of Whistleblower from MVM (the 
        contractor responsible for transporting UCs around the country 
        in the middle of the night) highlighting how UCs are delivered 
        to sponsors the UCs don't know: https://youtu.be/B2IU9FvIJtc
   August 2022 interview with a Central American trafficker 
        describing the horrifying realities Unaccompanied Children face 
        in the United States to include labor trafficking, sex 
        trafficking, and forced organ harvesting: https://youtu.be/
        ksJkZeHxk1s
   November 29, 2022 press release and shocking video expose 
        (PART 1) on child trafficking by Project Veritas: PV_Child 
        Pimped Out for Sex
   November 30, 2022 shocking video expose (PART 2) detailing 
        how traffickers exploit illegal child labor with social 
        security fraud; minor forced to pay back `debt': PV_Traffickers 
        Exploit Illegal Child Labor
   January 19, 2023 video highlighting how at least 50 migrant 
        children were found working graveyard shifts cleaning Midwest 
        slaughterhouses: https://youtu.be/7haUShzBsrc
   Feb 28, 2023 NYT article ``Alone and Exploited, Migrant 
        Children Work Brutal Jobs Across the US'' exposing how migrant 
        children are working and dying in the United States. NYT-
        Alone_and_Exploited
   March 1, 2023 NBC report titled ``Feds expand probe into 
        migrant child labor in slaughterhouses'' probing how children 
        from Central America were brought to the United States to work: 
        https://youtu.be/EjXgGIZISrM
   March 6, 2023, Aaron Stevenson & Tara Rodas (aka ``Double 
        Trouble'') on the Kyle Seraphin Show: Double Trouble
   March 29, 2023 3rd Presentment of the Florida Statewide 
        Grand Jury: FLGrandJuryPresentment-3-29-23
   April 12, 2023 USDA letter to Members of the Meat and 
        Poultry Industry warning them to crack down on illegal child 
        labor. Combating illegal child labor (usda.gov)
   April 12, 2023 NBC news ``A 16-year-old says he's still 
        cleaning a Kansas slaughterhouse months after his employer was 
        fined for employing kids'' exposing Dept of Labor's inability 
        to control illegal child labor. 16-Year-Old_Slaughterhouse
   April 12, 2023 War Journalist shows Rape Kits for migrants 
        that are paid for with Government money. Michael_Yon-Rape Kits 
        Given to Migrants
   April 13, 2023 NBC news segment identity-theft-linked-to-
        illegal-work-in-slaughterhouses
   April 17, 2023 Letter from Florida AG Moody to Congress 
        regarding HHS's & DHS's trafficking of UCs: 4-17-23 
        Letter_AG_Moody
   April 17, 2023 NYT article, ``As Migrants Were Put to Work, 
        US Ignored Warnings.'' NYT-US Ignored Warnings
   April 26, 2023: Testimony before the House Judiciary 
        Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, Security, and 
        Enforcement will hold a hearing on ``The Biden Border Crisis: 
        Exploitation of Unaccompanied Alien Children''
   Link to Mrs. Rodas' Testimony: Tara Lee Rodas Full Opening 
        Statement
   Link to full Congressional hearing: https://www.youtube.com/
        live/Ehul6b-t09M?feature=share
   July, 26, 2023 interview of 2-time whistleblower, Carlos 
        Arellano, on The Kyle Seraphin Show: https://rumble.com/
        v32dld0-nyc-migrant-hotel-whistleblower-carlos-arellano-speaks-
        out.html. This clip shows workers at the Row NYC complaining 
        about safety concerns: https://youtu.be/A88SHSGrHDU
   October 2, 2023 Muckraker Twitter (X) undercover report 
        ``Federal Child Trafficking Pipeline Exposed.'' https://
        rumble.com/v3mfhq7-Federal-child-trafficking-pipeline-exposed-
        the-real-sound-of-freedom-muckra.html
   October 16th promo for ``Police State.'' Aaron Stevenson & 
        Tara Rodas were featured together: Twitter Promo-Police State
   October 27th expose by America's Future of 4 HHS 
        Whistleblowers: Where Did The Children Go?_Americasfuture.net
   October 30, 2023, 4th Presentment of the Florida Grand Jury 
        Florida-4th-Presentment-of-the-21st-Statewide-Grand-Jury
   Nov 3rd Press Release & Call to Action by America's Future 
        on HHS's proposed rule change that would make trafficking of 
        the children more easy: Press Release: America's Future Issues 
        Call To Action: Oppose HHS's Proposed Rule
   November 29, 2023 Aaron & Tara on the Kyle Seraphin Show 
        Opposing HHS's Proposed Rule Change: Kyle Aaron Tara
   December 18, 2023 MSNBC expose titled ``Slaughterhouse 
        Children.'' Slaughterhouse Children: Child Labor Exposed
   December 28, 2023 article by Hannah Dreier of the NYT: 
        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/28/us/migrants-
        children-
        data.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K00.TtLo.xM2tex0SU_Cv&smid=url
        -share
   August 8, 2024 article in NY Post: Biden-Harris admin loses 
        track of 320,000 migrant children (nypost.com)
   August 19, 2024 DHS OIG Report: Management Alert-ICE Cannot 
        Monitor All Unaccompanied Migrant Children Released from DHS 
        and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Custody
   September 25, 2024 expose: Finding The Feds' Missing 
        Children/CHILD TRAFFICKING IN AMERICA (muckraker.com)
   October 14, 2024 expose in the Free Press: Inside America's 
        Fastest-Growing Criminal Enterprise: Sex Trafficking/The Free 
        Press (thefp.com)
    A sampling of the evidence above shows that HHS has lost control of 
the UC Program. Immediate steps must be taken to safeguard vulnerable, 
migrant children who come into the custody of HHS. It is unacceptable 
for a Federal Government agency to place children in the hands of 
unvetted and unsafe ``sponsors'' who are criminals, traffickers, and 
members of Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs). HHS is 
distributing migrant children across the country (though a 
sophisticated delivery network), bypassing State authorities in a 
secretive manner with limited transparency and inadequate oversight. 
This lack of openness, consent, and coordination is unacceptable and is 
contributing to the abuse, neglect, sexual exploitation, and 
trafficking of migrant children.
                          congressional action
    1. 12/5/22: Letter from 3 U.S. Senators to the U.S. Senate 
        Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs 
        requesting a hearing to investigate Mrs. Rodas' claims: 
        79E2D68B-E48E-4FC2-8A52-879041840686 (senate.gov)
    2. 12/5/22: Letter from 5 U.S. Senators to HHS Secretary Becerra 
        requesting a response to Mrs. Rodas' allegations: BEEFDA90-
        4130-4BAF-BBAA-8F5080C35930 (senate.gov)
    3. 4/26/23: House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration Integrity, 
        Security, and Enforcement hearing ``The Biden Border Crisis: 
        Exploitation of Unaccompanied Alien Children,'' (1) Tara Lee 
        Rodas Full Opening Statement (2) Full Congressional hearing: 
        https://www.youtube.com/live/Ehul6b-t09M?fea- ture=share
    4. 9/12/2023: Press conference outside the U.S. Capitol, Rep. Smith 
        announced new legislation called the ``Safeguarding Endangered 
        Children, Unaccompanied and at Risk of Exploitation Act of 
        2023'' aka the ``SECURE Act of 2023.'' Ex-DHS agent who 
        inspired `Sound of Freedom,' GOP rep demand Biden admin find 
        85K `missing' migrant kids/Fox News
    5. 9/13/2023: Testimony before the Committee on Homeland Security: 
        An Unbearable Price: The Devastating Human Costs of the Biden-
        Mayorkas Border Crisis--Committee on Homeland Security 
        (house.gov)
    6. 9/14/2023: Testimony before the House Foreign Affairs 
        Subcommittee on Global Health, Global Human Rights, and 
        International Organizations: Children Are Not for Sale
    7. 12/4/2023: Press Release from Senator Grassley's office opposing 
        HHS's Proposed Rule Change: Grassley and Senate Republicans 
        Demand Changes to Biden Admin Rule Endangering Safety and 
        Wellbeing of Unaccompanied Alien Children
    8. 1/22/2024: Press Release from House Judiciary Committee: 
        Chairman Jordan Subpoenas HHS Secretary Becerra for Information 
        on Criminal- and Gang-Affiliated UACs, Placement of UACs/House 
        Judiciary Committee Republicans
    9. 1/24/2024: Press Release from Senator Grassley: Grassley Alerts 
        DHS, FBI to Evidence of Human Trafficking
 Data Fidelity, Data Fusion, Data Distribution A PACE-Like Solution to 
                        Combat Child Trafficking
by Aaron Stevenson (former DHS intel) and Tara Rodas (former HHS 
        detailee)
                             key takeaways
   A PACE-like entity can centralize and fuse data across DHS, 
        DOJ, HHS, and other agencies to uncover patterns in child 
        trafficking networks that isolated systems cannot detect. This 
        will create the ability to both (1) rescue children and (2) 
        prevent other children from being lost in slave labor, 
        commercial sex, organ harvesting, or other activities.
   By streamlining the flow of intelligence through watch-list 
        packages, the PACE-like system enables real-time collaboration 
        between Federal, State, and local law enforcement to respond 
        swiftly to trafficking threats.
   Integrating contractor and NGO performance data allows a 
        PACE-like model to proactively identify fraud, waste, and 
        abuse, enhancing accountability and safeguarding resources 
        intended for vulnerable children.
    Just as the PRAC's PACE offered a solution to pandemic-related 
oversight challenges, a similar approach can be applied to address the 
trafficking of Unaccompanied Children, where the need for coordinated 
data analysis and integration across agencies is critical.
    The solution to the trafficking crisis of Unaccompanied Children 
(UC) shares significant parallels with the challenges faced during the 
pandemic response, particularly in terms of resource distribution and 
oversight. During the pandemic, multiple Government agencies struggled 
to track and account for large-scale disbursements of relief funds, due 
to disjointed systems and lack of coordination.
    The Pandemic Analytics Center of Excellence (PACE) at the Pandemic 
Response Accountability Committee (PRAC)--using the best practices from 
the former Recovery Accountability and Transparency (RAT) Board's 
Recovery Operations Center (ROC), which supported OIGs in oversight of 
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009--emerged as an 
effective solution to these problems, empowering oversight through the 
consolidation of data from different agencies. The PACE utilized 
advanced data analytics to detect fraud, waste, and abuse, identifying 
patterns that individual departments or contractors alone could not.
    A PACE-like entity operating under the framework of the Council of 
the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE) could be 
critical in addressing the growing issue of child trafficking by 
harmonizing the efforts of different agencies involved. Such an entity 
would play a vital role in fusing information from various Government 
departments, identifying trafficked children and sponsors, and pushing 
vital intelligence to law enforcement at all levels.
   data integration for identifying trafficked children and sponsors
    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of 
Health and Human Services (HHS) currently manage the process for 
handling Unaccompanied Children who cross the border. The children are 
initially apprehended by Border Patrol (BP) and/or Customs and Border 
Protection (CBP) under DHS, held for up to 3 days, and then transferred 
to HHS custody. HHS is responsible for placing these children with 
sponsors, often relying on contractors to manage case files and perform 
the necessary due diligence.
    However, existing challenges are threefold:
   HHS lacks access to critical datasets from other agencies 
        like DHS, the Department of Justice (DOJ), and State or local 
        law enforcement databases
   HHS lack tradecraft and ability to identify trafficking 
        patterns
   DOJ/DHS/non-Federal law enforcement have demonstrated an 
        inability to accurately and timely find trafficked children
   HHS remains an unresponsive entity to adhere to subpoenas.
    This fragmentation creates gaps which traffickers have operated 
freely.
    A PACE-like entity could solve this by centralizing access to these 
disparate datasets, creating a comprehensive, real-time database that 
includes immigration data (DHS and layered through numerous 
compartments), criminal records and unclassified intelligence 
information of transnational criminal organizations (DOJ), sponsor 
verification data (HHS), and more. By aggregating data from across 
these Federal departments and integrating it, this entity would enable 
the capabilities to quickly, efficiently, and thoroughly identify the 
children and sponsors for accountability and if necessary, recovery 
operations. This entity could identify patterns and anomalies in the 
sponsor system that suggests trafficking activity, such as (but not 
limited to):
   Multiple children placed with a single sponsor
     A pattern commonly associated with trafficking networks
   Sponsors with criminal records or known ties to human 
        trafficking
     Data integration could flag potential traffickers that 
            might have otherwise been missed in isolated departmental 
            checks
   Frequent movement between States or sudden transfers of 
        sponsorship
     Another red flag that could indicate trafficking networks 
            shuffling children to avoid detection.
    By merging all this information, the PACE-like entity would create 
a comprehensive and constantly updated footprint of child placements, 
ensuring that trafficked children and fraudulent sponsors are more 
quickly and accurately identified.
    Once the PACE-like entity successfully identifies suspicious 
patterns and trafficked individuals, the next vital step is to ensure 
that this intelligence is swiftly communicated to the appropriate law 
enforcement agencies for action.
             data sharing and law enforcement collaboration
    Once the PACE-like entity identifies suspicious patterns or 
confirmed cases of trafficking, it must act quickly to distribute this 
information to law enforcement agencies. A key function of this model 
would be the creation and dissemination of ``watch-list packages'' (CBP 
conducts transnational organized crime [TOC] watchlisting) for Federal, 
State, and local law enforcement. This would mirror the pandemic-era 
data-sharing approach, where Federal agencies used tools like the PACE 
to push important fraud data to local levels.
    In practice, this would work as follows:
   Watchlist Packages
     Whenever the PACE-like entity identifies a suspicious 
            sponsor or trafficking network, it can automatically 
            generate a detailed watch-list package, which includes all 
            relevant data (criminal history, sponsor records, movement 
            patterns, etc.) and flags the individual or group for 
            immediate investigation.
   Interagency Data Flow
     These packages could be pushed to agencies ranging from 
            Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to State and 
            local police, who would be equipped with the necessary 
            intelligence to track down traffickers or intervene before 
            children disappear into exploitative networks.
   Real-Time Alerts
     Law enforcement could be alerted in real-time to emerging 
            threats or anomalies. This allows immediate action on 
            suspicious sponsor applications or child transfers, 
            improving response times and potentially preventing 
            trafficking incidents.
    This systematic flow of information would allow Federal, State, and 
local agencies to operate cohesively in targeting traffickers. The 
ability to access unified data from multiple agencies and quickly 
disseminate it to law enforcement will ensure that critical information 
doesn't slip through bureaucratic gaps, as it often does in the current 
system.
    While timely information sharing with law enforcement is crucial 
for addressing immediate threats, the PACE-like entity's role extends 
further--identifying and mitigating fraud, waste, and abuse in the 
broader system, especially within NGO's and contractors tasked with 
handling these vulnerable children.
       detecting fraud, waste, and abuse in ngo's and contractors
    Much like how PACE was instrumental in identifying fraudulent 
contractors and bad actors during the pandemic, a PACE-like entity 
overseeing child trafficking could identify cases of fraud, waste, and 
abuse among the non-governmental organizations (NGO's) and contractors 
tasked with managing the care and placement of children. Currently, 
these organizations operate under HHS and often rely on case workers, 
some of whom are volunteers or contractors, to verify sponsor 
information and manage child cases.
    The complexity of these contracts--ranging from case management to 
transportation and service delivery--presents ample opportunity for 
exploitation, especially if oversight is weak. A PACE-like model can 
apply the same pattern analysis and fraud detection techniques used to 
uncover financial fraud during the pandemic to track misuse of 
Government resources in this context, which would include (but not 
limited to):
   Analyzing Contractor Performance
     By integrating contract and case management data, this 
            entity could identify patterns of underperformance or fraud 
            by NGO's and contractors, such as mismanagement of cases, 
            improper screening of sponsors, or the misallocation of 
            funds intended for child services.
   Spotting Fraudulent Activity
     The PACE-like entity could also identify contractors or 
            NGO's with unusually high rates of sponsor placements that 
            later turn out to be fraudulent, suggesting complicit 
            behavior or negligence in vetting. Using a combination of 
            contract data, payment information, and case outcomes, this 
            entity could flag bad actors and push that information back 
            to HHS for contract termination or legal action.
   Reducing Waste
     By automating the analysis of contracts and service 
            delivery outcomes, this entity could also help reduce waste 
            and improve the efficiency of the system, ensuring that 
            funds allocated for the care of Unaccompanied Children are 
            spent effectively and not lost to inefficiency or 
            corruption.
    By tackling these systemic inefficiencies and potential abuses, the 
PACE-like entity ensures a more transparent and accountable framework, 
setting the stage for a comprehensive solution to combat child 
trafficking and better protect unaccompanied minors.
                             lasting impact
    In addition to its primary role of identifying trafficked children 
and fraudulent sponsors, the PACE-like entity would play a crucial role 
in shaping and informing border policies to prevent trafficking before 
it occurs. By analyzing large datasets and detecting patterns of 
exploitation, this entity can provide key insights and recommendations 
that drive the creation of best practices at the border.
    One significant policy enhancement that could be supported by this 
entity is the implementation of mandatory DNA testing for individuals 
claiming to be relatives of unaccompanied minors. Currently, sponsors 
can sometimes falsely claim familial ties, which traffickers exploit to 
gain custody of children. Mandatory DNA testing would help confirm 
familial relationships, drastically reducing fraudulent claims. By 
analyzing data from such tests in combination with other records, the 
PACE-like entity would be able to monitor trends and continuously 
refine screening processes to make them more effective.
    Additionally, this entity could guide data collection efforts at 
the border, recommending the capture of biometric data (e.g., 
fingerprints, facial recognition) and cross-referencing it with 
criminal records and watch lists from DOJ and DHS databases. This 
integration of data collection practices would ensure that individuals 
attempting to exploit or traffic children are flagged before they can 
enter the system.
    Through its insights, this entity could advocate for other key 
policy recommendations, such as (but not limited to):
   Continuous vetting procedures for sponsors, which include 
        background checks across multiple agency databases.
   Continuous monitoring of sponsor-child relationships post-
        placement, to identify any red flags of trafficking or abuse.
   Inter-agency collaboration protocols, ensuring that border 
        officials, case workers, and law enforcement agencies follow 
        consistent and thorough screening methods to prevent 
        trafficking.
    By continuously refining these practices based on emerging 
trafficking patterns, the PACE-like entity would not only respond to 
trafficking incidents but also prevent future cases by shaping more 
robust, data-driven policies at the border.
                               conclusion
    The creation of a PACE-like entity under CIGIE could significantly 
enhance the ability to combat child trafficking by centralizing and 
analyzing data from across Government departments, identifying 
trafficked children and fraudulent sponsors, and pushing critical 
intelligence to law enforcement. The integration of data sets from DHS, 
DOJ, HHS, and other sources would allow for a more holistic view of 
trafficking networks and improve the identification of fraud, waste, 
and abuse within the system. By providing law enforcement with real-
time, actionable intelligence and rooting out bad actors among NGO's 
and contractors, this approach could help protect vulnerable children 
and bring traffickers to justice.
Systems of Data
   HHS
   DHS
   DOJ
   And other various agencies.

    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Ms. Rodas.
    Members will be recognized by order of seniority for their 
5 minutes of questioning. An additional round of questioning 
may be called after all Members have been recognized.
    I need to advise Members, we have votes scheduled for 4 
o'clock, so I'm going to be strict about 5 minutes. Please 
watch the clock, keep your questioning to 5 minutes.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes of questioning.
    America needs to understand that the historical model of 
the cartel operations has changed quite drastically in the last 
4 years.
    We had always envisioned that the criminal cartels, 
essentially born in their modern form in the 1980's and 1990's, 
have taken control of the criminal operations and the pipelines 
for drugs and human beings across Central America and Mexico up 
to our entire Southern Border, which is 1,954 miles of 
sovereign border. As Americans, we envision the cartels operate 
south of that border. They traffic drugs and human beings to 
the border, they make a lot of money doing it, it's all 
criminal, they're brutal. We have envisioned that there was 
always a measure of sovereign protection of our Nation at the 
Southern Border and cartel operations sort-of stopped.
    We also recognize that, within the interior of our country, 
we have traditional criminal networks that exist in our 
densities of population, commonly run by gangs. Those 
operations, although similar to cartel operations, were not 
nearly as organized or incredibly well-funded, but they 
operated independently of the cartels in many, many hundreds of 
factions across the country.
    What America has to understand right now is that the cartel 
operations now operate across the entire United States, and 
their pipelines continue through Central America and Mexico, 
across our Southern Border, into our major cities. I have 
reports of entire buildings held by cartels, old hotels and 
apartment complexes the cartels are buying for cash, taking 
possession of for cash. They are running their operations out 
of there--not one, but several buildings like that in the 
density of population, a network of sexual slavery operations 
and drug distribution operations, each easy to walk away from 
on short notice of a pending raid by law enforcement.
    America has to understand that this has happened; that, 
historically, the cartels would bring their product--human 
beings and drugs--to the Southern Border, there'd be some level 
of interaction by CBP, by Federal law enforcement, State and 
local law enforcement, and then unaccompanied children would be 
processed through HHS and turned over to nongovernmental 
organizations, where they would be turned over to family 
sponsors, either family or non-family, but sponsors that were 
vetted in some manner.
    This is a memorandum of understanding that operated for a 
long time--it was quite significant--between the Office of 
Refugee Resettlement and United States Department of Health and 
Human Services, the beginning process by which unaccompanied 
children were delivered to sponsors that were vetted.
    Because of the volume of children that were coming across 
in the last 4 years--and a part of that, the HHS and DHS joint 
statement of termination of this agreement--and this is from 
March 2021, my brothers and sisters. This was a policy decision 
to step away from the strict means by which these children were 
monitored and controlled. What it was replaced with was this 
Sponsor Care Agreement--there's nothing to this; it's 3\1/2\--2 
pages of nothing--that the criminal networks can easily take 
advantage of. So we have now delivered hundreds of thousands of 
unaccompanied children to unvetted sponsors that have enslaved 
them across our country.
    Ms. Hopper, you have done some brilliant research on the 
connection between trafficking--human trafficking--south of the 
border and as it networks into our country. Please expound upon 
what I've been discussing today.
    Ms. Hopper. Thank you, Chairman Higgins.
    You're correct, the terrorists, the cartels--sorry, the 
terms are interchangeable to me--they do know our policies and 
the 94 actions that were rescinded upon the new current 
administration coming in.
    They actually do use our programs and the manner in which 
we process unaccompanied children against us. They actually use 
Border Patrol and refer to them as ``migrant Uber.'' They know, 
once migrants cross the border, it's one phone call away; the 
Border Patrol picks them up and processes them. Then they know 
to write the number and name of the sponsor of the child--
sorry.
    Mr. Higgins. I'm not stopping you. I'm just telling you 
we're out of time here.
    Ms. Hopper. Oh. Sorry.
    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, ma'am.
    My time has expired, and I recognize the Ranking Member, 
Mr. Correa, for 5 minutes of questions.
    Mr. Correa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I hear your testimony, and anybody who's listening to your 
testimony has to cringe, to think of what you're saying and the 
words, what they mean.
    Looking at some data, the biggest number, the biggest group 
of sex-trafficked minors, reported cases, are American-citizen 
children of the United States. So the Chairman's discussion 
that this is an international ring operating--rings, I should 
say--operating across international lines is absolutely 
correct.
    We have a lot of work to do. We're going to have to work 
with our partners to make sure we begin to address this 
challenge.
    You know, last week, I heard David Beasley, former Governor 
of South Carolina, speaking. He was at The Aspen Institute 
talking about hunger in the world. It was interesting because, 
at this lecture, it was standing-room-only. We had Senators and 
Congress Members there listening to his discussion.
    His message was a sad one. It was a message, a warning to 
us. He was telling us that hunger around the world is only 
going to get worse. The situation around the world is in a 
crisis mode, and as soon as parts of the world like Africa and 
the rest of Latin America begin to really starve, heaven help 
us.
    If you don't take my word for it, take his. He won a Nobel 
Prize recently. He is former head of the U.N. world food relief 
organization.
    I say this to you because, again, during my opening 
statement I said, we've got to figure out the roots of this 
challenge. We can shut off the border. We'll do that. I doubt 
if it's going to work. You're still going to have children 
being trafficked. There's always a way when there's a profit to 
be made.
    So, in my 3 minutes I have left, I'm going to--very complex 
issue, trying to break it down into little pieces. But I'm 
going to ask each one of you, very succinctly, tell me, what 
would you do that would be quick and effective to stop sex 
trafficking?
    Mr. Carrell? In a few words, a couple of sentences.
    Mr. Carrell. Yes, sir.
    In order to stop child sex trafficking coming across the 
border, the border must be closed, period.
    Mr. Correa. To tourists? To commerce? All of the above?
    Mr. Carrell. Sir, we have ports of entry. That's where we 
come through, ports of entry. We don't come----
    Mr. Correa. Thank you.
    Mr. Carrell [continuing]. Through a steel fence. No, thank 
you.
    Mr. Correa. Ms. Hopper, what would you say? What would your 
answer be?
    Ms. Hopper. To actually build on what Mr. Carrell was 
saying, once the borders are closed, reinstate DNA testing.
    Mr. Correa. Thank you.
    Ms. Larin.
    Ms. Larin. You know, we found that child trafficking is 
complex. It involves law enforcement, it involves services to 
children, it involves multiple programs across the Federal 
Government. I think better coordination between those programs 
will help.
    Mr. Correa. Ms. Rodas.
    Ms. Rodas. I believe we must designate child trafficking as 
a terrorist activity. This would unlock critical 
counterterrorism tools, including expanded intelligence 
collection, interagency collaboration, and financial sanctions 
to dismantle trafficking infrastructure through interagency 
cooperation.
    Mr. Correa. Would that include additional resources?
    Ms. Rodas. No.
    Mr. Correa. OK. Thank you.
    Ms. Larin, I'm going to focus on you in the last minute I 
have.
    Twenty-twenty, GAO identified a host of problems with the 
Trump administration management of temporary shelters: failing 
to check State licenses of providers who ran these shelters, 
failing to conduct audits to ensure the facilities met 
standards, insufficient information sharing with their 
agencies.
    Anything happen with that? Were those issues taken care of?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah. As I mentioned in my testimony, we made 8 
recommendations covering all of those deficiencies that we 
found in our work during 2018 and 2019. Of them, 5 of the 
recommendations have been closed as implemented, and 3 of the 
recommendations are still open but progress has been made to 
address them.
    Mr. Correa. Which ones would those be, in the last 30 
seconds here?
    Ms. Larin. I'm sorry?
    Mr. Correa. Which of the 3 recommendations are still open?
    Ms. Larin. There's still recommendations open related to 
maintaining--ensuring that policies are being followed and 
maintaining records accurately.
    Mr. Correa. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Chairman, I'm out of time. I yield.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman yields.
    Mr. Bishop is recognized.
    Mr. Bishop. So, Mr. Carrell, we're hearing some amazing 
things today: children being sacrificed to harvest organs. Of 
course, somebody said they don't--Mr. Ivey said he's not so 
sure about that. You've got the amazing 8-year-old with 
sexually transmitted diseases, 12-year-old 9 months pregnant.
    My colleagues on the Minority are very concerned, though, 
about your language. What do you think of that?
    Mr. Carrell. I find it fascinating and interesting that, 
after hearing about all this testimony--and, right now, 
thousands of children are being raped; that's just statistical 
probability, 100 percent. Children are being murdered. I'm 
going to quote President Trump when he said, ``A lot of these 
children are already dead.''
    What I find fascinating is, all of this that we've got to 
talk about, all this tragedy that we're dealing with, and we 
want to talk about what I said about Speaker Johnson in a 
podcast that I don't even remember.
    I think maybe it goes back to the Congressman. Would he 
like to ask me a question that has any relevance to helping 
secure these children?
    Then you go back further, sir. The reason why we are in 
this position is because we destroyed the border--not just the 
Southern Border, the Northern Border, and both coastlines.
    This is a tragedy. It is treason, because this is not bad 
policy or bad mistakes or somebody's incompetent; this is 
intentional. So, when you do intentional acts against your 
Nation, that is treason.
    I'll be glad to talk about Speaker Johnson and him funding 
NGO's to the hilt. I would love to talk about that as well.
    Mr. Bishop. Ms. Hopper, I sat in another briefing on this 
subject, and one of the witnesses there, a libertarian guy as I 
recall, sort-of said, these people that have all gone off-grid, 
the people that ORR can't contact, that there's no problem, and 
if they don't want--they sort-of live--they don't want to have 
contact with official sources, but they're fine.
    I find that to be amazing, but can you respond to that? I 
mean, you've seen a fair number of things, it sounds like.
    Ms. Hopper. So, if American citizens can't deflect from 
agencies like CPS and just respond and say, ``Oh, these 
children are fine, you don't need to do a home check'' or 
foster-care checks or welfare checks on American citizens, and 
you don't take American citizens' words that the children are 
fine, why would you take the word of a sponsor who you don't 
know, don't have accurate background records?
    If they are an illegal migrant, many background checks 
haven't been done on them. So we are handing kids over to known 
MS-13 members and known pedophiles.
    So I'm sorry, I'm not willing to take someone's word that 
the child is OK.
    Mr. Bishop. Isn't that unbelievable, callous indifference, 
to take the position that these people are just, you know, not 
wanting to be in touch with authorities? Isn't that a horrific 
disregard of human beings that you know are being abused and 
suffering? Would you agree?
    Ms. Hopper. I agree.
    Mr. Bishop. Ms. Rodas, what--one of the--Mr. Correa, I 
believe, just made the point that the United States is already 
the--I think he said the leading location of sex trafficking in 
the United States. We've been having whatever resources are in 
law enforcement already sorely tested.
    What will happen to the American children that might be 
rescued from sex trafficking if our already over-taxed, over-
burdened law enforcement resources have to bear this additional 
immense burden? What's going to--aren't they all going to 
suffer, all the children who would benefit from those services, 
if you just have more and more of them, unless we can pay more 
and more?
    How much would it cost, how many trillions of dollars would 
it cost to stop this entirely?
    Ms. Rodas. Well, I would submit that you could save a few 
billion dollars by not running the program in the manner that 
it's being run.
    I'm very unclear as to why we're luring children to the 
United States to be the white-glove delivery system of these 
children to known MS-13, 18th Street Gang, Russian Balkan crime 
syndicates, and other unsavory characters?
    We've known since February 2021, when DHS whistleblower 
Aaron Stevenson came forward, we've known since 2015, when DHS 
whistleblower Jason Piccolo came forward, that children are 
being used. So we----
    Mr. Bishop. My time's expired.
    Ms. Rodas. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Bishop. Very well said. Someone may get a chance to 
follow up.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Ivey is recognized.
    Mr. Ivey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Ms. Rodas, you picked up 2 books there. What were they?
    Ms. Rodas. So this book is actually called ``Out of the 
Shadows'' by Dr. Jason Piccolo. He was the very first 
whistleblower, in 2015, so prior to when the Chairman 
referenced the severing of the DHS and HHS information-sharing 
agreement because they didn't want chilling on their sponsors.
    At one point, this brave whistleblower, when he was looking 
and had the ability to look at the data, said, hey, we are 
giving children to criminals and pedophiles and traffickers. 
That was 2015.
    Mr. Ivey. OK. That was 2015.
    What was the other book I think you had?
    Ms. Rodas. Oh, it wasn't a book, sir.
    Mr. Ivey. Oh, I'm sorry.
    Ms. Rodas. No, I referenced Aaron Stevenson, who is the DHS 
whistleblower from 2021.
    Mr. Ivey. Uh-huh.
    Ms. Rodas. He was the TOC Mission expert--that's the 
Transnational Organized Crime Mission expert. He identified the 
very first time in the history of the program that a TOC 
member, because of all the relaxation of the vetting, was able 
to sponsor a child.
    That brave whistleblower lost his job for coming forward to 
expose child sex trafficking.
    Mr. Ivey. All right.
    Let me ask a couple of questions to follow up on what I 
think I've heard. I think you and Ms. Hopper mentioned resuming 
DNA testing----
    Ms. Rodas. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Ivey [continuing]. As steps that should be taken?
    Prison for sponsors who lose their--I wrote ``charges,'' 
but unaccompanied children--I think that was you, Ms. Rodas--as 
a solution?
    Ms. Rodas. Yes.
    Mr. Ivey. OK.
    Do you know if there's Federal law that covers that, or do 
you think Federal law would need to be implemented to address 
that?
    Ms. Rodas. We would probably need to say--yeah, we would 
need to put in a law, because it doesn't currently exist.
    I think it's very important for people to understand----
    Mr. Ivey. All right.
    Ms. Rodas [continuing]. Just like PRS is not enforceable--
--
    Mr. Ivey. Fair enough. I'm running out of time. I 
apologize.
    You also mentioned that you thought this was a 10-year 
problem. You raised concerns about HHS not having the tools or 
the expertise to address some of these problems because of the 
cartel involvement, I take it, that has become part of this?
    Ms. Rodas. Well, even Mr. Carey, who used to formally be 
with HHS, he's even said, they're not law enforcement. They 
know----
    Mr. Ivey. OK.
    Ms. Rodas [continuing]. They're not law enforcement.
    Mr. Ivey. So that would be DOJ, then, potentially, or other 
law enforcement entities that should be more involved with 
this?
    Ms. Rodas. Absolutely.
    Mr. Ivey. All right.
    Then--boy, I think this was Ms. Larin?
    You mentioned--to Mr. Correa too--that some of the changes 
that had been made--more accurate licenses, better information 
regarding past allegations of misconduct--because sometimes 
entities would, even though they'd been identified for 
misconduct, would still be receiving unaccompanied children--
that that needed to be addressed.
    Is that fair?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah, that's correct.
    Mr. Ivey. All right.
    Then you said something about improving the ability to 
confirm that kids are in school, aware of their court dates and 
the like.
    I was curious about how that would be done. Would that--
you'd have to increase the number of people who have oversight 
over these children? Or how would that work?
    Ms. Larin. I mean, what we're really asking for is 
documentation. We're asking that, when they reach out and 
children receive post-release services, HHS keeps a record of 
that so that they can show which kids have gotten the services, 
which haven't.
    Mr. Ivey. I see. So when the----
    Ms. Larin. That's what they haven't been able to do.
    Mr. Ivey [continuing]. Kids reach out, if they call, for 
example, that that would be tracked?
    Ms. Larin. Exactly.
    Mr. Ivey. OK.
    Then, Mr. Carrell--I apologize; I'm running out of time--
you had 3 points--well, first of all, let me--let's--the organ 
harvesting issue.
    So, Ms. Hopper, I think you identified issues, but I think 
the ones you mentioned were in Mexico. Are there any you're 
pointing to in the United States? Not that that makes it 
better, but I just want to make sure we know what we're talking 
about here.
    Ms. Hopper. You are correct. You had mentioned that there 
were no footnotes. I was not going to put an incarcerated 
cartel member's information out there, but that would be the 
footnote.
    However, they were harvested for buyers that were in the 
United States looking for those organs.
    Mr. Ivey. Well, for footnotes, what I would mean in that 
instance would be, for example, if there are cases that have 
been brought to prosecute, you could cite those.
    But the fact that--I just want to nail down, they are not 
in the United States.
    Mr. Carrell, you made an allegation about organ harvesting 
as well. Are you saying that's taking place in the United 
States or somewhere else?
    Mr. Carrell. In my documentary, I interview multiple 
people----
    Mr. Ivey. Please give me the quick answer.
    Mr. Carrell. Yes, this is happening in America. To deny 
that is----
    Mr. Ivey. I'm not asking you to deny it. But have any 
charges been brought against anyone for doing that?
    Mr. Carrell. I don't know that right now, sir.
    Mr. Ivey. OK.
    Then you mentioned that, as your 3 parts to your solution, 
every single one of the 550,000 unaccompanied children should 
be identified.
    After they are identified, what is the next step in the 
process that would happen there? What happens to those kids 
after we identify them?
    Mr. Carrell. We make sure they're safe.
    Mr. Ivey. By--in what way? What do you have in mind?
    Mr. Carrell. What do you mean by ``what''--I don't 
understand the question, by what way?
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Carrell. I don't understand.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Guest is recognized for 5 minutes for questioning.
    Mr. Guest. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Carrell, first, I want to thank you for your 24 years 
of service to your country and for all that you are doing to 
call attention to the crisis along our Southwest Border.
    Ms. Hopper, I also want to thank you, as well, and direct 
my questions first to you, Ms. Hopper.
    You state in your written testimony, you talk about this 
not being a political issue, that this is, in fact, a 
humanitarian crisis that has costed the lives of countless 
children. You go on to talk about the devastation that you've 
seen first-hand and that you have seen cartel members operating 
with impunity along our Southwest Border.
    We are well aware of human trafficking and the number of 
individuals who are brought into the country illegally, both 
children and adults, some of those forced into modern-day 
slavery to pay back the cost of their safe travel across the 
border.
    We're also very well aware of sex trafficking. We're aware 
that individuals are brought into the country and they're sex-
trafficked once they are--sex-trafficked once they've entered 
the country.
    You do a great job in your report talking about issues of 
sexual violence that occur during transit. You talk about 
that--you say here that there's a disturbing aspect of cartel 
operations and the sexual exploitation that occurs at specific 
points along the smuggling route. You even refer to those as 
what are known as ``rape trees,'' where young women and in some 
cases possibly young men are sexually assaulted by those 
individuals that are giving them passage across the border.
    So, while we as the committee are well aware of those 
allegations, you also bring up another disturbing, shocking new 
category, I guess, if you will--and I think, Mr. Carrell, you 
may have addressed that briefly as well--involving the 
harvesting of organs and that drug cartels are now moved into 
this new category of activity involving organ harvesting.
    In many cases, it seems like, from reading your testimony--
I'm going to ask you to expand on that in just a minute--that 
these are migrants who are attempting to travel into the United 
States--that drug cartels are, in cases, harvesting organs of 
those individuals. You said that this is a common practice that 
occurs at both veterinarian clinics and hospitals, I'm assuming 
there in Mexico.
    You even talk about a report from August 2024 where there 
were 2 American college students who were there in Mexico who 
were drugged, with the belief that they were to be apprehended 
so that their organs could be harvested.
    So, as we move into this, I just want to give you a minute 
to enlighten our committee about what you have found as it 
relates specifically to drug cartels, which are now moving into 
this disturbing new arena of harvesting organs of individuals 
attempting to come to the United States.
    Ms. Hopper. Thank you for the opportunity to expand on 
that.
    During the interview with the former Sinaloa Cartel 
affiliate, he expanded on a lot of these, a lot of what you 
highlighted.
    He expanded on the fact that these migrant children, 
especially if they're traveling without their parent, there is 
no way to communicate whether they've made it through their 
journey or not. If a cartel member or a smuggler gets a call 
that there is a specific organ that they're looking for, they 
will scout out those organs, and especially focus on migrant 
children, namely for the fact that they are vulnerable, they're 
unable to fight back, and, you know, as horrid as it sounds, 
their organs are more, you know, intact and in better shape.
    So there is no way to communicate with these children once 
they've crossed into the border, so they kind-of disappear 
along the way.
    Mr. Guest. Mr. Carrell, let me ask you, since you've also 
talked on this subject, briefly, do you agree with the 
assessment of Ms. Hopper on the organ harvesting? Do you have 
anything that you would like to add?
    Mr. Carrell. Organ harvesting is real. To think that it's 
not--that we're trafficking--this Federal Government is 
bringing children over that are being lost, sexually mutilated, 
sexually raped, murdered, and then we're shocked or appalled 
that there could be organ harvesting?
    The people I've interviewed, multiple people, said--and I 
asked them, is this an anomaly, is this a one-off? No. This is 
pervasive and is growing daily.
    Mr. Guest. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman yields.
    Mrs. Ramirez is recognized for questions.
    Mrs. Ramirez. Thank you, Chairmen and Ranking Members.
    You know, I'm not surprised that my Republican colleagues 
here, including one who has so candidly and callously posted 
racist tweets about Haitian immigrants, are calling up yet 
another witness with no credibility on the hearing topic, who 
believe in conspiracy theories, write about it and promote 
lies, all to write extremist ideologies, to be here.
    On your X account, Mr. Carrell, formerly Twitter, you 
asked, ``What is treason?'' Well, let me answer for you. This 
right here, this is treason.
    In one of your tweets, you claimed violent January 6th 
rioters who destroyed public property and attempted to stop a 
democratic transition of power as ``political prisoners.'' I 
find it to be shameful that a former law enforcement agent 
would defend a mob who beat law enforcement officers protecting 
this very building.
    In another post, you write, ``Mass deportations will be 
swift, but they will be deadly.'' Actually, I agree with you on 
that; they will be deadly. So I find it unforgivable that you, 
Trump, and Republican Members of this committee would even 
advocate for it.
    In another post, you say, we should destroy the Federal 
Government and that the Federal Government is the enemy. I find 
it odd, considering you were once a Federal employee and you've 
been begging to come back into the incoming Trump 
administration for a new job.
    Last, you posted that the Federal Government is the 
epicenter of pedophilia--an outright falsehood, with perhaps 
the exception of Trump's stellar Attorney General pick.
    I have no questions for you. No one serious about our role 
here should be asking you questions. Your misleading statements 
are counterproductive.
    This committee, tomorrow, is supposed to be having--
although I'm hearing we may not have--a committee hearing on 
worldwide threats. To me and so many others, the fearmongering, 
the racist ``invasion'' rhetoric that you and extremist 
Republicans spread, in my opinion, is probably the truest 
threat to our homeland.
    So, Ms. Larin, I want to ask you a question.
    First, let me start by saying, more than 4,000 children 
were forcibly separated from their parents under Trump's family 
separation policy, including infants who were literally removed 
from their mothers' arms.
    Because of that administration's cruelty and incompetence, 
more than 1,400 of these children still have not been reunited 
with their parents more than 6 years later. They may never be 
reunited with their parents.
    Trump has said that he will do it again; he will deport and 
separate families.
    Ms. Larin, can you tell us why it's been so difficult to 
reunite children separated under President Trump?
    Ms. Larin. You know, there are several reasons.
    First, there was no planning before the separation policy 
was put in place, so DHS and ORR didn't have an opportunity to 
put procedures in place to track the children.
    There was no database that both agencies could access and 
share to track the whereabouts of the children. In HHS's 
database, ORR's database, there was no field to indicate even 
whether a child had been separated from a parent.
    So it became a very labor-intensive paper process to 
reunite children with their family members that has taken many 
years and, as you say, is on-going.
    Mrs. Ramirez. Do you think that particularly the babies, 
the toddlers, the 1-year-olds who were ripped away from their 
families will ever be reunited?
    Ms. Larin. They were particularly difficult to reunite 
because they could not advocate for themselves.
    Mrs. Ramirez. Yeah. Thank you.
    Look, folks, you're going to--you have a trifecta. You'll 
have an opportunity to pass solutions. We want to address the 
issues, and, look, I'm the first to tell you, I don't want to 
hear about one woman being raped crossing that border. My 
mother experienced it while pregnant with me, crossing that 
border.
    So let me tell you something. If you decide that you are 
going to be the party that's going to bring solutions and 
create the legal pathway so no child is kidnapped, raped, or no 
woman is, then I look forward to working with you on that.
    But if all we're going to continue to do in this committee 
is bring people here who continue to dehumanize children and 
families who are risking everything because they have lost 
everything crossing that border, then I'm going to continue to 
push back and fight back.
    Because I actually understand what's happening in these 
countries. I have visited these countries. I want to get to the 
root cause of migration. I want to get to solutions. You've 
been talking about policy solutions; you're----
    Mr. Higgins. The gentlelady's time has expired.
    Mrs. Ramirez [continuing]. Going to have the opportunity to 
do it.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentlewoman from Georgia, Ms. Greene, is 
recognized for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Greene. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The root cause of migration is a Federal Government that 
has legalized an invasion into this country. That's the root 
cause.
    You talk about treason. I can tell you right now, I 
consider that treason against American citizens. This has been 
an invasion in this country, and the cartels have benefited by 
tens of billions of dollars.
    Mass deportations cannot happen fast enough, not fast 
enough, not for the cartels, terrorist gangs, and criminals 
that have made billions and billions of dollars, and children 
have been the biggest victims of it.
    Human trafficking is a $150-billion-a-year industry. In 
2021, Georgia had one of the highest number of cases per capita 
that were reported through trafficking hotlines. Approximately 
one-third of all human-trafficking victims are children.
    The United States is one of the top destinations for human 
trafficking and is among the largest consumers of child sex. 
That is sick. The average age of entry into the commercial sex 
market is 12 years old.
    Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been complicit--
complicit--just as you testified, Mr. Carrell, in making the 
United States Federal Government the world's largest child-sex-
trafficking organization in modern history. My God, what has 
happened to our country?
    This administration has adhered to our enemies and allowed 
cartels and coyotes to make around $13 billion a year in human 
trafficking alone. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Mayorkas have 
allowed over 500,000 unaccompanied alien children to cross our 
border.
    As Mr. Carrell testified, the probability that thousands of 
these alien children are being raped at this very moment is 100 
percent.
    Ms. Rodas, you further highlighted that when we learned in 
February 2023 that 85,000 of these children were missing, zero 
action was taken to rescue the children, and zero action was 
taken to prevent other children from being lost in slave labor, 
commercial sex, organ harvesting, and other unspeakable evils.
    I don't care if the organ harvesting happened in Mexico. If 
the buyers are in the United States, we've got a serious 
problem.
    Consequently, more than a year later, in July 2024, we 
learned that this administration has lost track of more than 
320,000 children. How on Earth do we do that?
    The failures, that's how. These are the results of Democrat 
policies. The Democrats want to claim moral superiority and 
accuse us of family separation policies. Well, they are the 
party of child sex trafficking. The American people spoke out 
about that on the election.
    Surrendering control of our borders to the cartels, 
expediting vetting processes, and refusing to share data with 
law enforcement so they can dismantle the trafficking 
infrastructure are the policies of Democrats. More than 100 
children being released to the same address in Austin, Texas, 
is a policy of the Democrats.
    Mr. Carrell, in your documentary, ``What Is Treason?'', 
there are some very heart-wrenching claims about the 
trafficking of unaccompanied children. Several of the most 
disturbing claims we heard are: Religious organizations and 
NGO's are operating as co-conspirators. These organizations are 
used as the pipeline to traffic the children to the end abuser, 
in many instances. Other disturbing claims made include 
pedophilia rings purchasing children, as well as organ 
harvesting.
    Can you please talk in specifics about the evidence and 
finding of your research that have led you to these 
conclusions?
    Mr. Carrell. That's a great question, because the problem--
the Federal Government does not have the ability, the capacity, 
or the manpower to move 30 million people that have crossed the 
border in the last 4 years into America. They can't. So who do 
they partner with? The Federal Government partner with the 
NGO's, all cloaked under the umbrella of religion.
    Ms. Greene. They're paying them with American tax dollars, 
by the way.
    Mr. Carrell. We are talking about--this is Joe Biden's 
numbers and statistics. In 4 years, he will have spent over 
$700 billion on illegal immigrants, to surpass $1 trillion. 
That's the range that we have.
    I'm telling you, these NGO's are making tens and hundreds 
of billions of dollars, and they are the traffickers.
    Ms. Greene. But, Mr. Carrell, can you talk specifically 
about the organ harvesting? Where do we find evidence of this? 
Who do we need to talk to?
    Mr. Carrell. Well, this is just like somebody says, ``Well, 
show me where the drug cartels are.'' They're not showing you 
where they are. The organ harvesting is not going to--they're 
not going to show you. It's not ``60 Minutes.'' They're not 
going to come and show you, ``Hey, this is what we're doing, 
this is how it's going.''
    Ms. Greene. Uh-huh.
    Mr. Carrell. I'm talking to people that are inside the 
belly of the beast that are hunting children down to save them, 
to going after organizations that go after the----
    Mr. Higgins. The gentlewoman's time has expired.
    Mr. Carrell. This is happening in America. Undeniable.
    Ms. Clarke. Thank you, Mr. Chairman----
    Mr. Higgins. Representative Clarke is recognized for 5 
minutes of questions.
    Ms. Clarke. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I thank the 
Ranking Members.
    The energy in this room is just so toxic. But let me share 
facts.
    President-elect Trump and his would-be newly-appointed 
border czar, Tom Homan, who is known as the ``father of family 
separation,'' falsely claimed that people will not come to the 
United States border if they know they will be ripped apart 
from their family.
    Yet, under their watch and the cruel policies, illegal 
entry at the border increased dramatically under Trump's first 
term, before the pandemic halted migration around the world. 
Fact.
    Caring for children was not and is not a priority for the 
Trump administration. The Trump administration had no plans for 
how to care for the children they ripped away from their 
parents. GAO found that the Trump administration had no 
contingencies in place to deal with the thousands of children 
they separated from their families, and this is why children 
remain separated to this day.
    So, Ms. Larin, could you explain more about what GAO found 
and why this became such a large problem?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah, we looked at the family separation policy 
back when it was happening, and, as I mentioned before, we 
found that there was a lack of planning; there was a lack of 
consistent data that DHS and HHS had on these children; there 
was no way to record which children had been separated from 
their parents.
    Yeah, the separation policy created a crisis at ORR because 
they weren't prepared for the number of very young children. 
Most shelters were really geared toward 13- to 17-year-olds and 
weren't really ready to take care of infants and young 
children. So they really had to scramble to be able to do that, 
and it created a crisis.
    Ms. Clarke. This is a fact.
    My Republican colleagues pretend to care about children, 
but their actions say otherwise. They defended President-elect 
Trump's family separation policy, put kids in cages, joked 
about it, and left kids at the mercy of the cartels by making 
them wait in Mexico under the Migrant Protection Protocols.
    Just this Congress, they tried to undo protections for 
children in the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization 
Act. Why don't we hear Republicans talk about the harm that 
those policies do to children? Hm.
    When they have full control of the Government next 
Congress, I hope to see my colleagues take actions to make 
children safer.
    Director Larin, your agency completed a report in December 
2023 that analyzed Federal efforts to counter child trafficking 
and made several recommendations.
    Ms. Larin, can you speak to those recommendations and how 
the Biden administration has made efforts to resolve them?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah. We found that, while there are a number of 
programs that serve all human-trafficking victims, including 
children, there were 6 programs specifically in the Federal 
Government, both at the Department of Justice and at HHS, that 
are focused on children. What we recommended is that an 
interagency task force be formed to ensure that those efforts 
are coordinated so that children who are victims receive the 
services that they are entitled to.
    That recommendation to both DOJ and to HHS has been 
implemented. There is an interagency task force to coordinate.
    Ms. Clarke. Very well.
    Are you aware of whether concerns about the lack of 
contingencies and appropriate planning were raised before 
family separation was implemented?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah. The lack of planning meant that the 
agencies had to figure it out on the fly. That was really--the 
key deficiency was a system for tracking where the children 
were. That's what didn't exist, because there was no time to 
plan for it.
    Ms. Clarke. Well, I thank you very much for your response.
    Mr. Chairman, I think that, you know, this is a very 
serious issue, but the way that this committee has conducted 
this hearing, bringing entertainment to the table to share with 
us their opinions and opine without facts, this committee has 
never done that. I see that that's the rabbit hole we're going 
down. Mr. Chairman, we need to put this in check before it gets 
out of hand.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentlelady yields.
    The gentleman from Mississippi, Mr. Ezell, is recognized.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    It's pretty obvious today that we have a lot of differences 
of opinions. I've spent my entire life until coming to Congress 
as a police officer, a sheriff, a chief of police, and I have 
seen first-hand--I have held a victim's hand who has been 
violently raped and abused. Let me tell you something: It is 
the worst thing you will ever witness in your life, to see a 
victim of rape and terrible abuse. There's nothing that can 
compare to it except for murder, and that victim is no longer 
able to speak. But I have seen first-hand just how terrible it 
is.
    So, no secret here that the border's wide open. It's no 
secret that everything has been going on for the last 3\1/2\ 
years.
    What I've heard today--Ms. Larin, with all due respect, 
I've heard you answer questions several times about lack of 
planning on the Trump administration for whatever failures they 
had.
    So tell me what some of the planning, successful planning, 
that we have seen over the last 3\1/2\ years out of this Biden 
administration to stop some of these hundreds of thousands of 
people coming across this border. What have this Biden 
administration done in the last 3\1/2\ years to plan and to 
stop what we have seen?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah, I can't speak to border-control issues.
    Mr. Ezell. Uh-huh. OK. But what I've heard you say multiple 
times: a lack of planning, a lack of planning. I haven't seen 
very much planning coming out of this administration.
    So what I'd like to go into, what I'd like to ask Mr. 
Carrell and anybody else that would like to answer this: Can 
you name some of these NGO's that have specifically taken these 
hundreds of millions of dollars and not used it to protect 
these children?
    Mr. Carrell. Catholic Charities. Lutheran Family Services. 
Jewish Family Services.
    I spoke to a gentleman that works in DHS; he actually sends 
the electronic fund transfers. I asked him, ``Sir, tell me, who 
do you send--who are you responsible for, and how much is the 
largest check you've cut?'' He said, ``I am over Jewish Family 
Services, and I cut a check for $600 million.'' I said, ``Is 
that for, like, 3 years?'' He told me, ``J.J., get in the game. 
That's 2 or 3 months, and it's renewable.''
    That's one NGO.
    I said, ``Well, Catholic Charities is bigger than Jewish 
Family Services.'' ``Yes. They get the same or more.''
    You're talking about billions upon billions of dollars 
given to NGO's to further the trafficking of all--of everyone 
crossing the border, to include children.
    Mr. Ezell. Uh-huh.
    Ms. Rodas, I understand you were on detail to care for and 
place children entering into the United States via the 
Southwest Border with sponsors in the United States.
    While serving on detail at HHS, I understand you sounded 
the alarm about how HHS handled these unaccompanied children. 
Thank you for your bravery.
    Do you believe any of these concerns were taken seriously?
    Ms. Rodas. Congressman, no, sadly, I don't.
    As I was raising the alarm, along with other wonderful 
people who were on the site--Deb White, a fellow 
whistleblower--we were told, ``You are not to be investigating 
the sponsors. Your job is to get the child to that sponsor.''
    When we had children who were going to addresses that we 
had already ID'ed as having multiple children, and I'm talking 
to the boss, who is an attorney, my superior, the director, she 
said, ``Tara, you need to understand, at HHS, we only get sued 
if we keep kids in care too long. We don't get sued by 
traffickers.''
    That is appalling, that I heard from a Federal Government 
employee regarding children who we knew were going to addresses 
that were already under investigation. I've never witnessed 
anything in my whole life, and had I not seen it with my own 
eyes, I'm not sure I could believe it.
    Mr. Ezell. What happened as a result of you pushing the 
envelope?
    Ms. Rodas. Well, I wasn't the most popular person on the 
site.
    But when DHS whistleblower Aaron Stevenson sounded the 
alarm and went public in August 2021 and I saw that they were 
MS-13 and 18th Street Gang--my husband is from El Salvador, so 
I know that this is not a good thing, to be giving children to 
MS-13--they discovered that I went to the Department of Justice 
Office of Inspector General and HHS Office of Inspector 
General, and it took them less than 20 days to falsely accuse 
me of wrongdoing, threaten me with investigation, walk me off 
the site, the ``perp walk'' in front of your peers, and take my 
badge.
    So that's how much they appreciated that I was revealing 
that children were being sponsored by MS-13.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman yields.
    The gentleman from New York, Mr. Suozzi, is recognized.
    Mr. Suozzi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I want to also wish my best wishes to Mr. Bishop. I 
really--whenever anyone asks me about him, I said, he's really 
a very smart guy. You've got a lot of tremendous ability.
    I want to thank the witnesses for being here today.
    I have to tell you, I'm very sad, the whole thing's very 
sad. I look up at the Capitol dome sometimes, and I'm inspired 
by it every time I look at it, but I think to myself, boy, that 
really hides a lot of dysfunction. You come into a beautiful 
hearing room like this, you see the drapes and the chandeliers 
and this dais, and it seems, you know, so wonderful, and 
there's a lot of dysfunction.
    It's sad, the stories everybody's telling here today about 
kids being raped, people being trafficked, organs being 
harvested, families being separated, kids in cages, parents 
worried about their children, people trying to make money off 
of other people's misery. All we do is, we--I heard a lot of 
stuff I agree with here today, but all we do is point fingers 
at each other.
    Ms. Rodas, you talked about a whistleblower in 2015 talking 
about sex trafficking. It didn't start all of a sudden one day 
on January 20, 2021. It's been going on for decades. We spend 
all of our time blaming each other and trying to point at 
bogeymen instead of doing our jobs in the U.S. Congress to try 
and find agreement with each other.
    I've got great friends on the other side of the aisle. 
We've been talking about what can we do to find some common 
ground to secure the border, to fix the broken asylum system, 
to treat people like human beings and address some of the 
thorny problems related to DACA and TPS and farm workers and 
health care workers and Afghan readjustment. We've got a lot of 
common-ground agreement.
    But people are terrified, on both sides of the aisle, of 
speaking up, because they're afraid that the extremists in 
their party are going to cut their legs off if they dare try to 
work with the other side.
    The toxicity that we hear in this hearing room and in the 
media constantly, instead of trying to actually solve the 
problem, where these kids are suffering every day, where 
families are suffering--blame, blame, blame, blame. We've got 
to do our jobs to find common ground to help people that are 
suffering.
    We can find clever things for us to say about you guys and 
for you to say about us. ``Ha, I got him. I showed him.'' 
``Look what I got you on. I got you on one.'' Let's do our 
jobs. Let's solve the problem.
    So thank you to the witnesses for being here today. I know 
many of you have devoted your lives to try to address these 
problems. I appreciate it.
    I've only got a minute and a half left, but--I'm not even 
sure what to ask you, really, other than, what's the one thing 
you'd like us to do, Ms. Rodas? What's the one main thing you 
want us to do?
    Try and do it quick so I can give everybody a shot to 
speak.
    Ms. Rodas. For me, I'm going to stick with that we need to 
designate child trafficking as a terrorist activity. I think 
this would unlock the critical counterterrorism tools, expanded 
intelligence, interagency collaboration----
    Mr. Suozzi. All--all complicated things. It's so 
complicated to deal with these problems. You cannot solve 
complicated problems in an environment of fear and anger and 
blame. You can only do it when people who are reasonable are 
willing to sit down across from each other and say, I think 
this; or, I think that; well, how about this; or, how about--
and find common ground.
    So thank you, Ms. Rodas.
    Ms. Rodas. Thank you.
    Mr. Suozzi. Ms. Larin, do you want to say anything?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah. I would say, the key is oversight. We have 
programs that are in place, and the problems occur when the 
implementation is not done correctly.
    Mr. Suozzi. Who do we need to do the oversight? The 
Congress needs to do the oversight? Or do we need--is there--
Inspector General? Who should be doing a better job of 
oversight?
    Ms. Larin. Yes. All of the above.
    Mr. Suozzi. Thank you, Ms. Larin.
    Ms. Hopper, are you back to DNA?
    Ms. Hopper. I would like to echo what Tara said as far as 
designating these organizations as terrorists.
    Mr. Suozzi. Thank you very much, Ms. Hopper.
    Mr. Carrell.
    Mr. Carrell. Yes, sir. The root cause of all this is the 
open borders and the----
    Mr. Suozzi. We have to secure the borders. There was a 
bipartisan deal to secure the borders. I've got a new proposal 
to secure the borders. No asylum applications in between the 
ports of entry; that's what I'm in favor of. No Executive 
Order, no--Congress says, no asylum applications in between the 
ports of entry.
    Let's create Safe Mobility Offices. You want to do ``Remain 
in Mexico''? I don't want you to remain in Mexico. I want you 
to remain in other countries all throughout the world and apply 
there, and if you apply there and you get denied, you don't 
come in; if you get accepted, you come in. Safe Mobility 
Offices throughout the country.
    Thank you, Mr. Carrell.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mrs. McIver is recognized for 5 minutes for questions.
    Votes have been called, and we're trying to close out 
quickly.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you, Mr. Chairmen and Ranking Members 
and our witnesses, for joining us today.
    Homeland security extends beyond protecting our borders and 
ports of entry. It's about ensuring that these protections are 
implemented fairly and equitably. The pathway to citizenship is 
thought to unlock prosperity, but not everyone has the same 
key.
    I commend the Biden-Harris administration for taking 
significant steps to improve the care and safety of 
unaccompanied children, including addressing the harm caused by 
family separations during the Trump administration.
    However, more must be done. Like my colleague from New 
York, the fine gentleman from New York, stated, we must talk 
about what we should be doing to address the problem.
    We know that the Biden administration has also come to 
Congress for help with the resources needed to do more.
    My question is to Ms. Larin.
    Can you also describe some of the assistance that the Biden 
administration has asked for from Congress? Have you received 
that help yet?
    Ms. Larin. Yeah, I actually can't speak to that. I am not 
familiar with the Biden administration's request.
    Mrs. McIver. OK. That's interesting. All right.
    My closing, because I know we have to rush to votes, is 
that Congress has a responsibility to come together to fund and 
support these critical efforts. Our conversation today is 
vital, even though it's a little toxic, to advancing fair and 
equitable practices that protect all children within our 
borders and those seeking safety and refuge here.
    With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back my time.
    Mr. Higgins. The gentlelady yields.
    I thank the witnesses for their testimony today and Members 
for the questions.
    Mr. Correa, do you need----
    Mr. Correa. Yeah. I'd like to submit something for the 
record if it's the right time, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Higgins. So let's do that now.
    Mr. Correa. I'd like to submit a statement for the record 
from the Kids in Need of Defense, some recommendations on how 
the Government can protect some of these children.
    Mr. Higgins. Without objection.
    Mr. Correa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    [The information follows:]
              Statement of Kids in Need of Defense (KIND)
                           November 19, 2024
    Kids in Need of Defense (KIND) is the leading U.S.-based 
organization dedicated to the protection of unaccompanied children. 
KIND was founded by the Microsoft Corporation and the United Nations 
Refugee Agency (UNHCR) Special Envoy Angelina Jolie. We have provided 
legal representation to more than 16,000 children in U.S. immigration 
proceedings, provided legal rights education to more than 75,000 
children in the United States, and formed pro bono partnerships with 
over 800 corporations, law firms, law schools, and bar associations to 
provide children with pro bono representation. KIND's social services 
program facilitates the coordinated provision to unaccompanied children 
of counseling, educational support, medical care, and other services. 
KIND also helps children who are returning to their countries of origin 
to do so safely and to reintegrate into their home communities. KIND's 
programs in Mexico and Central America work to address the root causes 
of forced migration and help protect the safety and well-being of 
migrant children at every phase of their migration journey. Through its 
European Initiative, KIND and partners in Belgium, France, Greece, 
Ireland, and the United Kingdom work to ensure access to high-quality 
pro bono legal assistance for unaccompanied children in Europe.
    Each year, thousands of unaccompanied children arrive to the United 
States, having fled extreme violence, sexual abuse, human trafficking, 
and other dangers in their countries of origin. Many of these children 
come from countries across Central America, and increasingly, from 
throughout the Western Hemisphere, as global displacement has reached 
historic levels due to war, political unrest, natural disasters, and 
other threats in many parts of the world. Unable to find safety in 
their countries of origin, children are often forced to undertake 
dangerous journeys, and once in the United States, face complex 
immigration proceedings. These children, many of whom have experienced 
severe trauma, confront numerous obstacles after arrival, including 
limited resources, language barriers, and the need to navigate the 
complex U.S. immigration system, often on their own.
    Recognizing the unique vulnerability of unaccompanied children, 
Congress created fundamental procedural protections designed to help 
these children fairly access protection and navigate immigration 
proceedings to prevent their return to harm or exploitation. These 
safeguards, enacted on a broad bipartisan basis through the Trafficking 
Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (TVPRA), build upon 
foundational child welfare safeguards for all children in Federal 
immigration custody that are embodied within the Flores Settlement 
Agreement, signed by the Federal Government in 1997.
    The necessity of these protections--and Government-wide efforts to 
ensure the well-being of unaccompanied children--have only grown in 
importance in light of recent media articles and investigations and 
Congressional oversight documenting devastating and wide-spread labor 
exploitation, including in various cases labor trafficking, of 
unaccompanied migrant children throughout many U.S. companies and 
industries. Many children have worked long hours or overnight shifts in 
factories producing goods or cleaning dangerous industrial equipment. 
Harmful conditions have led to chronic illness, the loss of limbs, and 
other severe injuries. These reports have garnered critical attention 
to the need for a coordinated, whole-of-Government effort to eradicate 
such exploitation, protect unaccompanied children's safety, and empower 
children to thrive.
    KIND strongly supports interagency efforts to prevent and combat 
child trafficking and labor exploitation and to uphold TVPRA and Flores 
protections, which play an important role in reducing children's 
vulnerability and facilitating their access to legal processes and 
supportive services that can advance safety and stability and mitigate 
risks of mistreatment. We remain deeply concerned, however, about 
recent Congressional proposals that, by weakening existing legal 
protections for unaccompanied children, would make these children more 
vulnerable to trafficking and exploitation, not less.
    As Congress considers measures to protect unaccompanied children it 
is essential that any proposals build on existing legal protections and 
treat unaccompanied children as children first and foremost--leveraging 
a trauma-informed and holistic response to meeting the needs of this 
particularly vulnerable population.
    KIND recommends the following practical and achievable measures to 
reduce trafficking and exploitation risks to unaccompanied children, 
achieve new processing and resource efficiencies, and best deploy the 
expertise and experience of border personnel: (1) ensure robust 
compliance with anti-trafficking safeguards provided for by the TVPRA 
and ensure the ability of unaccompanied children to request protection 
at U.S. borders; (2) hire child welfare professionals in CBP 
facilities; (3) expand legal and social services for unaccompanied 
children; (4) support specialized children's dockets; and (5) ensure 
safe reintegration services for children who are ordered removed or 
have requested to return to their country of origin.
  prevention of trafficking of unaccompanied children at u.s. borders
    When first arriving to the United States, unaccompanied children 
are initially processed by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), 
which must comply with specific protections provided for by the 
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 (TVPRA) 
regarding identification, screening, and transfer of unaccompanied 
children. Enacted with broad bipartisan support, the TVPRA created 
additional procedural safeguards for unaccompanied children in the 
immigration system to help ensure children's cases will be 
appropriately considered to prevent children's return to trafficking 
and other harm. Prior to the law's creation, border authorities often 
rapidly returned children back across the border to Mexico or to other 
countries without any assessment of whether the child would face 
persecution or other harm if returned. Traffickers and other criminal 
actors, accustomed to these practices, often waited on the other side 
of the border to target or recruit returning children.
    The TVPRA's safeguards have protected thousands of children from 
trafficking, exploitation, and other harm and ensured that the Federal 
Government will be able to appropriately receive, screen, and care for 
unaccompanied children. Under the law's provisions, CBP must conduct an 
initial screening of unaccompanied children from Mexico and Canada to 
determine whether the child is at risk of or has a history of being 
trafficked, credibly fears persecution if returned, and is able to make 
an independent decision to withdraw their application for admission to 
the United States.\1\ If indicators of harm or risk are present, the 
child cannot make a voluntary decision about withdrawing their 
application, and/or CBP. cannot make a decision within 48 hours, the 
child must be immediately transferred to ORR custody. For unaccompanied 
children from all other countries, the TVPR--A provides that CBP must 
identify the child as unaccompanied within 48 hours and make a referral 
to ORR within 72 hours. ORR, which was tasked by the Homeland Security 
Act of 2002 with care and placement of unaccompanied children based on 
its experience with refugee children,\2\ conducts intake screenings to 
identify indicators of trafficking or other protection concerns once a 
child is transferred to the agency's care.
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    \1\ 8 U.S.C.  1232(a)(2).
    \2\ 6 U.S.C.  279.
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    Additional TVPRA protections help ensure that unaccompanied 
children are able to better navigate a system designed principally for 
adults and that the Government can fully evaluate children's cases for 
legal protection. These protections include access to counsel and 
independent child advocates, exemption from the 1-year filing deadline 
for asylum claims, and the opportunity for unaccompanied children to 
have their asylum claims first heard in a non-adversarial interview 
setting before U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).\3\ 
Compliance with the TVPRA's safeguards at all times remains a critical 
component of migration management and safe, orderly, and humane border 
processes to ensure that children are never deported to trafficking and 
other harm and that they are able to obtain lasting protection.
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    \3\ See 8 U.S.C.  1232; 8 U.S.C.  1158(a)(2)(E).
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    Mindful of the need for improved care and protection of children 
during border reception, Congress has directed and on a bipartisan 
basis supported funding for the Department of Homeland Security to hire 
licensed child welfare professionals along the U.S.-Mexico border. 
These professionals, who will have expertise in identifying protection 
needs and trafficking indicators, will help advance child well-being at 
a critical point in a child's search for protection. They will also 
strengthen border security by freeing up agents and officers to focus 
on vital law enforcement functions for which they are specially 
trained. Efforts to place child welfare professionals in border 
facilities must be accompanied by DHS's robust compliance with national 
minimum standards for care and treatment of children in Federal 
immigration custody, as provided for by the Flores Settlement 
Agreement. By providing for children's unique needs in--all border 
processes and ensuring robust compliance with TVPRA and Flores 
protections, the Federal Government can better prevent trafficking and 
other harm and foster greater trust among children and families that 
can aid in the early identification and investigation of trafficking 
concerns.
    Several prior border policies in the United States and the region 
have placed limitations on the ability of asylum seekers to request 
protection. The Federal Government has exempted unaccompanied children 
from many of these policies, such as Remain in Mexico, the Title 42 
policy, and recent border asylum regulations, consistent with legal 
protections provided by the TVPRA.
    It is imperative that all border policies recognize the particular 
vulnerability of unaccompanied children, uphold specific protections 
provided by the TVPRA, and ensure that unaccompanied children are 
exempt from any restrictions that limit, bar, or delay access to the 
border to apply for protection.
 importance of legal and social services to addressing trafficking and 
                              other risks
    Pursuant to the TVPRA and related legal settlements and 
regulations, unaccompanied children transferred to ORR care are to be 
placed into the ``least restrictive setting'' in the child's best 
interests.
    ORR maintains a nationwide network of more than 289 facilities and 
programs in 29 States that it funds to provide temporary care and 
custody of unaccompanied children,\4\ including transitional foster 
care placements, shelters, and residential treatment centers. ORR 
provides for children's basic care, medical care, counseling, 
recreation, and educational services, among other needs.
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    \4\ ORR, Unaccompanied Children Bureau Fact Sheet (Nov. 1, 2024), 
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/orr/fact-sheet/programs/uc/fact-sheet.
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    ORR works to reunify children in its care with safe and suitable 
sponsors pursuant to numerous policies and consistent with requirements 
set forth in the TVPRA. This process includes the potential sponsor's 
completion of an application, and any required criminal background 
checks and public records checks. Pursuant to the TVPRA, ORR is also 
required to conduct home studies for certain particularly vulnerable 
children and may also conduct such studies in other cases where it may 
help in evaluating the sponsor's safety and suitability.\5\ Following 
approval of a sponsor and the child's release, ORR conducts safety and 
well-being follow-up calls within 30 days to verify the child's safety, 
that they are living with a sponsor, that they know of pending court 
proceedings, and that they are enrolled in school.\6\ Although ORR's 
role with a child formally ends after release, the TVPRA requires ORR 
to provide post-release services for unaccompanied children for whom a 
home study is required and also authorizes ORR to provide such services 
for other children with mental health or other needs who may benefit 
from them.\7\ ORR provides limited funding for these services; however, 
the comprehensiveness and duration of services varies depending on a 
child's needs, available funding, and the child's geographic location. 
Historically, a small percentage of children have received case 
management and post-release services, and where provided, such services 
typically only endure for a couple months. ORR also operates a National 
Call Center hotline that is operational 24/7 to connect children, 
sponsors, and providers with support and assistance.\8\
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    \5\ 8 U.S.C.  1232 (c)(3)(B).
    \6\ ORR Policy Guide  2.8.4.
    \7\ 8 U.S.C.  1232 (c)(3)(B). Pursuant to the ORR foundational 
rule and related policy, such services ``may include linking families 
to educational and community resources, home visits, case management, 
in-home counseling, and other social welfare services; as needed.'' 89 
Fed. Reg. 34384, 34587 (Apr. 30, 2024), https://www.govinfo.gov/
content/pkg/FR-2024-04-30/pdf/2024-08329.pdf.
    \8\ ORR, Office of Refugee Resettlement National Call Center, 
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/orr/national-
call-center-eng.pdf.
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    Pursuant to the TVPRA, ORR also must ``to the greatest extent 
practicable'' provide unaccompanied children with ``counsel to 
represent them in legal proceedings or matters and protect them from 
mistreatment, exploitation, and trafficking.''\9\ ORR is also 
authorized to provide independent child advocates to represent the best 
interests of especially vulnerable children.\10\ Currently, however, 
many children must navigate complex immigration proceedings without an 
attorney. ORR has set a goal of ensuring legal representation for 100 
percent of unaccompanied children by 2027, an important commitment that 
will necessitate on-going support by both the agency and Congress. 
Fulfilling this aim will prove beneficial in identifying and mitigating 
myriad risks that unaccompanied children may be facing, both related to 
and independent of their immigration case.
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    \9\ 8 U.S.C.  1232(c)(S).
    \10\ Id. at  (c)(6).
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    Unaccompanied children are often eligible for various forms of 
humanitarian protection. Applying for such protection necessitates that 
the child disclose and be interviewed about sensitive information 
regarding harm and trauma they have experienced--a significant 
challenge for many children who have survived serious violence, 
threats, or abuse, including at the hands of adults and other authority 
figures. In the months or years working on the child's legal case and 
due to the confidentiality of the attorney-client relationship, the 
child may develop the trust and rapport with an attorney that is 
necessary to be able to disclose experiences of trafficking, 
exploitation, or other circumstances giving rise to a need for 
protection. Children may also share information indicating unstable 
housing, financial insecurity, health challenges, issues at school, or 
other challenges that could exacerbate their vulnerability to 
trafficking and other harm and suggest a need for social services 
support or engagement by child welfare professionals or other 
authorities.
    Attorneys can work with the child to screen for any legal 
protections for which the child is eligible, provide the child with 
information about child labor laws and other legal rights, refer the 
child to trusted community organizations and other professionals for 
social and other services, and work with the child to assist them, 
where appropriate, in reporting concerns to child welfare or law 
enforcement authorities. Legal assistance may also include helping 
eligible children to apply for a Child Eligibility Letter or interim 
assistance with the Department of Health and Human Services' Office on 
Trafficking in Persons (OTIP). This form of assistance offers children 
who have experienced or potentially experienced trafficking to access 
services and benefits to the same extent as refugees. These benefits 
include case management; food and cash assistance, health insurance, 
education, and housing.\11\ Interim assistance can also help eligible 
children access the Unaccompanied Refugee Minors (URM) program, which 
provides for children's care with a foster family or in a group home. 
Without an attorney, however, child survivors of trafficking may remain 
unaware of protections for them and could become vulnerable to re-
trafficking and other exploitation.
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    \11\ See Dep't of Health and Human Services, ACF, Office on 
Trafficking in Persons, Child Eligibility Letters https://
www.acf.hhs.gov/otip/victim-assistance/child-eligibility-letters.
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    For many children, legal assistance can make a life-saving 
difference--facilitating access to humanitarian protection so the child 
will not be deported to harm and helping children find safety from 
situations of violence, abuse, trafficking, and exploitation they may 
confront in the United States. Attorneys can also help children apply 
for work authorization, which provides a vital form of Government-
issued photo identification for children, even when not used for work. 
Such identification is frequently necessary to access services such as 
health insurance, to obtain a social security card, or to receive a 
driver's license. For older youth, work authorization can improve 
access to safe, lawful jobs that enable children to more easily avoid 
exploitative situations and harmful working conditions.
    The importance of offering post-release legal and social services 
for unaccompanied children cannot be overstated.\12\ Long-standing 
child welfare and medical research has documented the potential for 
traumatic experiences, known as Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs), 
to have long-term impacts for children's development, health, and well-
being, including in adulthood.\13\ Unaccompanied children often endure 
numerous ACEs and significant trauma due to prior experiences. However, 
children frequently have only limited access to case managers, social 
workers, or supportive services after they are released from Government 
care.\14\ Legal and social seryices can help to ensure children's needs 
are promptly identified and addressed and build on children's existing 
self-help skills and resilience. Such assistance can help mitigate 
risks to children and promote safety in both the short- and long-term.
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    \12\ See generally Migration Policy Institute, Strengthening 
Services for Unaccompanied Children in U.S. Communities (2021), https:/
/www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/publications/rnpi-
unaccompanied-children-services_final.pdf [hereinafter ``MPI report''].
    \13\ CDC, About Adverse Childhood Experiences, https://www.cdc.gov/
aces/about/index.html.
    \14\ See MPI report, supra note 12, at 1 (``In most years, only a 
minority of children receive case management, legal services, or both, 
and most children receive no Federal follow-up services other than a 
call 30 days after their release to check on their safety and well-
being.'').
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 concerns about children missing or trafficked following release from 
                                orr care
    Recent news reports and Congressional oversight efforts have 
galvanized concern for children's safety after release from ORR 
custody. Some of these efforts have inaccurately indicated that nearly 
85,000 unaccompanied children are ``missing'' or being trafficked, 
based on information that ORR was unable to reach children during 
follow-up safety and well-being calls. Reports have also misleadingly 
asserted that 300,000 unaccompanied children were ``lost'' by DHS, 
misrepresenting information in an August 2024 report by the DHS Office 
of Inspector General stating that DHS had not filed Notices to Appear 
(NTAs) in immigration court for these unaccompanied children.\15\ Based 
on this information, Members of Congress have advanced several 
proposals that would enact new restrictions on sponsors, limit TVPRA 
protections, and risk prolonged detention of children.
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    \15\ See Associated Press, FACT FOCUS: Claims that more than 
300,000 migrant children are missing lack context, https://apnews.com/
article/fact-check-misinformation-migrant-children-missing-
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    While efforts to ensure children's safety are paramount at all 
times, data about ORR call pick-ups is not a reliable indicator of 
children's safety or trafficking risk. There are many reasons why a 
child or family may not have responded to ORR's calls. A child or 
sponsor may not have been home or available to respond to the call, may 
not have recognized the caller's phone number, or may have recently 
changed their phone number. By indicating that tens of thousands of 
unaccompanied children have been trafficked, based on missed phone 
calls, these mischaracterizations risk diverting resources away from 
current trafficking investigations and assistance for children 
currently experiencing harm.
    Such reports also obscure the limitations of existing data. To 
date, data on trafficking and exploitation of unaccompanied children in 
the United States and world-wide remains incomplete, and accurate data 
collection remains a necessary priority. Various factors exacerbate 
these limitations, among them inconsistent methods for identifying and 
documenting trafficking and exploitation; fear among survivors that 
reports could lead to immigration enforcement or retaliation against 
the child and their family; and confidentiality protections and 
concerns.\16\ Improving children's access to necessary services and 
expanding training about all forms of trafficking among agencies and 
providers can promote better data collection and enhance programming 
for impacted children.
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    \16\ See, e.g., AAP, Clinical Report, Exploitation, Labor and Sex 
Trafficking of Children and Adolescents: Health Care Needs of Patients, 
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/151/1/e2022060416/
190310/Exploitation-Labor-and-Sex-Trafficking-of-Children?autologin- 
check=redirected (``Reliable national prevalence data for child labor 
and sex T/E in the United States are not yet available.''); U.S. 
Department of State, About Human Trafficking, https://www.state.gov/
humantrafficking-about-human-trafficking/ (``It is hard to find 
reliable statistics related to human trafficking. The quality and 
quantity of data available are often hampered by the hidden nature of 
the crime, challenges in identifying individual victims, gaps in data 
accuracy and completeness, and significant barriers regarding the 
sharing of victim information among various stakeholders. For these 
reasons, data and statistics may not reflect the full nature or scope 
or the problem.'').
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    Similarly, claims that children are missing based on DHS's having 
not filed Notices to Appear for court proceedings mischaracterize 
protections for unaccompanied children in the U.S. immigration system. 
Following an unaccompanied child's arrival to the United States and 
consistent with the TVPRA, DHS places the child in full immigration 
removal proceedings, in which the child will have an opportunity to 
apply for any protections for which they are eligible, including 
affirmatively applying for asylum with USCIS. Typically, Immigrant and 
Customs Enforcement does not file the child's NTA with the immigration 
court to formally commence the child's proceedings until after the 
child is released from ORR. This is essential to ensure the child has 
an opportunity to obtain legal counsel prior to proceedings and also 
recognizes that a child may be released to the care of a sponsor in a 
different State or location than they initially arrived to the United 
States. Without such delayed filings, notices may be sent to locations 
where children no longer reside, creating significant due process 
concerns and administrative inefficiencies for ICE, the immigration 
courts, and children and their families alike. DHS's not having filed 
an NTA with the immigration court does not correlate with a child's 
being missing or trafficked.
    Indeed, prevention of trafficking and other harm is best achieved 
not through immigration enforcement against vulnerable children, but in 
ensuring the availability of appropriate screening and services for 
them. The provision of post-release legal and social services is 
critical. Additional measures across Government agencies can bolster 
fair adjudication of children's protection cases, identify trafficking 
of children, and help ensure children's safety.
          specialized children's dockets in immigration court
    The Executive Office for Immigration Review recently issued policy 
guidance encouraging the creation of specialized children's dockets to 
address the legal cases of unaccompanied children.\17\ These dockets 
will ensure that immigration judges specially trained in child-centered 
and trauma-informed practices oversee children's cases--improving the 
quality of adjudications, ensuring children's access to legal 
protections available through other agencies such as USCIS, and 
enabling efficiencies for Government agencies administering and working 
amid court dockets. Under these dockets, DHS attorneys will be 
similarly trained in forms of legal relief available to children, 
child-sensitive interviewing techniques, and trauma-informed practices. 
Children's dockets can also facilitate the identification of and 
provision of assistance to child victims of trafficking by enabling the 
presence of trained nonprofit attorneys and organizations at court 
locations who can screen children for protection needs, provide 
information to children about their legal rights, and connect children 
with services providers and professionals. Together, these measures can 
create a more child-centered adjudication process that can mitigate 
risks to children and enhance access to vital protection.
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    \17\ Executive Office for Immigration Review, Director's Memorandum 
24-01: Children's Cases in Immigration Court, Dec. 21, 2023, https://
www.justice.gov/d9/2023-12/dm-24-01.pdf.
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    The EOIR guidance reflects in important respects key provisions of 
the Immigration Court Efficiency and Children's Court Act,\18\ 
bipartisan legislation introduced in Congress in 2023. Further, 
language in the bipartisan fiscal year 2025 Commerce, Justice, and 
Science (CJS) appropriations report commends EOIR for its establishment 
of these dockets and requires the agency to report on their 
implementation. Additional efforts to implement and expand these 
dockets promise improvements to safety and protection for children and 
administration and efficiency for the Government.
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                 safe return and reintegration services
    Protection of unaccompanied children at all points necessitates 
ensuring that children are never returned to harm--and that any child 
ordered removed or requesting to return to their country of origin will 
be safely received and cared for following return. The TVPRA directs 
the Federal Government to consult Department of State reports on Human 
Rights and Trafficking in Persons in evaluating whether a child may be 
safely returned to a country and similarly provides for a return and 
reintegration pilot program to protect children from trafficking and 
exploitation and to implement best practices for safe return and 
reintegration.\19\ To date, several nonprofit organizations, including 
KIND and its community-based partners in Guatemala and Honduras, have 
collaborated to provide return and reintegration services that help to 
screen unaccompanied children for any protection needs or other 
concerns, provide predeparture counseling, coordinate safe reception, 
and connect children with reintegration services upon their return. In 
addition to helping to ensure that children are not returned to harm 
and assisting their safe return, these services can help to prevent 
future trafficking and other harm by facilitating children's access to 
protection, education, housing, medical and mental health care, 
counseling, case management, and opportunities that can reduce the need 
for children to re-migrate and undertake dangerous journeys to find 
safety and assistance. By helping children to secure protection at the 
earliest point possible, these services can also reduce pressure on 
U.S. border operations and facilities.
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    KIND recommends that the Federal Government formally establish and 
dedicate on-going funding for a return and reintegration program for El 
Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, to be led by individuals with 
expertise in child migration and child protection, This may be achieved 
through partnerships with community-based organizations that can help 
to improve the accessibility of services for children wherever they are 
in need. Additional efforts can grow such programs over time to reach 
children returning to any countries of origin, including through cross-
border case management.
                               conclusion
    KIND welcomes Congress' continued commitment to the well-being of 
unaccompanied children at all points in their migration journey. We 
urge Congress to ensure that all Federal agencies uphold critical anti-
trafficking protections created by the TVPRA as well as the Flores 
Settlement Agreement; and support critical services that can help 
reduce children's vulnerability to harm, help children secure lasting 
safety, and nourish children's resilience to grow and make valuable 
contributions to their communities and the United States.

    Mr. Higgins. Again, I thank the witnesses for your 
testimony today and the Members for their questioning.
    The Members of the subcommittees, both, may have additional 
questions for the witnesses, and we would ask the witnesses 
respond to these in writing.
    Pursuant to committee rule 7-delta, the hearing record will 
be open for 10 days.
    Without objection, the subcommittees, both, stand 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 4:13 p.m., the subcommittees were 
adjourned.]



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