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                  THE STATE OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUC-
                     TURE AND SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES

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                                HEARING

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                              COMMITTEE ON
                   TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                            FEBRUARY 1, 2023

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             COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

                 Sam Graves, Missouri, Chairman
                 
Rick Larsen, Washington,             Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford, 
  Ranking Member                     Arkansas
Eleanor Holmes Norton,               Daniel Webster, Florida
  District of Columbia               Thomas Massie, Kentucky
Grace F. Napolitano, California      Scott Perry, Pennsylvania
Steve Cohen, Tennessee               Brian Babin, Texas
John Garamendi, California           Garret Graves, Louisiana
Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr.,      Georgiavid Rouzer, North Carolina
Andre Carson, Indiana                Mike Bost, Illinois
Dina Titus, Nevada                   Doug LaMalfa, California
Jared Huffman, California            Bruce Westerman, Arkansas
Julia Brownley, California           Brian J. Mast, Florida
Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon,
Donald M. Payne, Jr., New Jersey       Puerto Rico
Mark DeSaulnier, California          Pete Stauber, Minnesota
Salud O. Carbajal, California        Tim Burchett, Tennessee
Greg Stanton, Arizona,               Dusty Johnson, South Dakota
  Vice Ranking Member                Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey
Colin Z. Allred, Texas               Troy E. Nehls, Texas
Sharice Davids, Kansas               Lance Gooden, Texas
Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   Tracey Mann, Kansas
Chris Pappas, New Hampshire          Burgess Owens, Utah
Seth Moulton, Massachusetts          Rudy Yakym III, Indiana
Jake Auchincloss, Massachusetts      Lori Chavez-DeRemer, Oregon
Marilyn Strickland, Washington       Chuck Edwards, North Carolina
Troy A. Carter, Louisiana            Thomas H. Kean, Jr., New Jersey
Patrick Ryan, New York               Anthony D'Esposito, New York
Mary Sattler Peltola, Alaska         Eric Burlison, Missouri
Robert Menendez, New Jersey          John James, Michigan
Val T. Hoyle, Oregon                 Derrick Van Orden, Wisconsin
Emilia Strong Sykes, Ohio            Brandon Williams, New York
Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        Marcus J. Molinaro, New York
Valerie P. Foushee, North Carolina   Mike Collins, Georgia
                                     Mike Ezell, Mississippi
                                     John S. Duarte, California
                                     Aaron Bean, Florida

                                CONTENTS

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Summary of Subject Matter........................................   vii

                 STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Missouri, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, opening statement..............................     1
    Prepared statement...........................................     2
Hon. Rick Larsen, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Washington, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, opening statement..............................     2
    Prepared statement...........................................     4

                               WITNESSES

Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive Officer, American 
  Trucking Associations, oral statement..........................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................     7
Ian Jefferies, President and Chief Executive Officer, Association 
  of American Railroads, oral statement..........................    21
    Prepared statement...........................................    22
Jeff Firth, Vice President, Hamilton Construction Company, on 
  behalf of the Associated General Contractors of America, oral 
  statement......................................................    29
    Prepared statement...........................................    30
Roger Guenther, Executive Director, Port Houston, oral statement.    40
    Prepared statement...........................................    41
Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO, 
  oral statement.................................................    42
    Prepared statement...........................................    44

                       SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD

Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
  Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation 
  and Infrastructure, from Corey Rosenbusch, President and CEO, 
  The Fertilizer Institute, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Eric 
  A. ``Rick'' Crawford...........................................    51
Submissions for the Record by Hon. Rick Larsen:
    Slide........................................................    55
    Letter of October 3, 2022, to Hon. Pete Buttigieg, Secretary 
      of Transportation, from the Community Transportation 
      Association of America et al...............................   164
Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
  Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation 
  and Infrastructure, from Catherine Chase, President, Advocates 
  for Highway and Auto Safety, Submitted for the Record by Hon. 
  Eleanor Holmes Norton..........................................    58
Opinion, ``I'm a successful female minority truck driver. 
  California's AB5 forced me to leave the state I love,'' by Dee 
  Sova, Fox News, January 30, 2023, Submitted for the Record by 
  Hon. Doug LaMalfa..............................................   101
Submissions for the Record by Hon. Dusty Johnson:
    Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Thomas Madrecki, 
      Vice President, Supply Chain, Consumer Brands Association..   109
    Statement of the Shippers Coalition..........................   110
    Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from the American 
      Chemistry Council..........................................   166
Statement of the National Mining Association, Submitted for the 
  Record by Hon. Bruce Westerman.................................   114
Statement of Robert W. Murray, President, National Association of 
  Waterfront Employers, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Mike 
  Ezell..........................................................   119
Submissions for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves:
    Letter of February 10, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, 
      Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, from 
      Christine M. Burgeson, Senior Vice President, Airlines for 
      America, and attached aviation stakeholders letter of 
      November 15, 2022..........................................   133
    Report, ``The Safety Impact of Technology and Crew Size: An 
      analysis of accident data, incorporation of technology, and 
      train crew staff levels on rail safety trends,'' B. 
      Dierker, December 2022, Alliance for Innovation and 
      Infrastructure.............................................   135
    Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Chet Thompson, 
      President and CEO, American Fuel & Petrochemical 
      Manufacturers..............................................   136
    Letter of February 15, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, 
      and Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Chris Spear, 
      President and Chief Executive Officer, American Trucking 
      Associations...............................................   137
    Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Kristen Swearingen, 
      Vice President, Legislative and Political Affairs, 
      Associated Builders and Contractors........................   142
    Statement of the Association of Equipment Manufacturers......   145
    Letter of February 8, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Jeff Farrah, 
      Executive Director, Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association   146
    Statement of the Corn Refiners Association...................   147
    Statement of Joanne F. Casey, President and CEO, Intermodal 
      Association of North America...............................   148
    Letter of February 15, 2023, and ``Competing To Win'' Report, 
      to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking 
      Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
      from Ben Siegrist, Director of Infrastructure, Innovation, 
      and Human Resources Policy, National Association of 
      Manufacturers..............................................   151
    Statement of Michael C. Seyfert, President and Chief 
      Executive Officer, National Grain and Feed Association.....   153
    Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Michael W. Johnson, 
      President and CEO, National Stone, Sand & Gravel 
      Association................................................   155
    Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
      Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on 
      Transportation and Infrastructure, from Sean O'Neill, 
      Senior Vice President of Government Affairs, Portland 
      Cement Association.........................................   158
    Statement of the Wabtec Corporation..........................   160

                                APPENDIX

Question from Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton to Chris Spear, 
  President and Chief Executive Officer, American Trucking 
  Associations...................................................   169
Questions to Ian Jefferies, President and Chief Executive 
  Officer, Association of American Railroads, from:
    Hon. John James..............................................   169
    Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton...................................   172
    Hon. Donald M. Payne, Jr.....................................   173
    Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr...........................   175
Question from Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., to Jeff Firth, 
  Vice President, Hamilton Construction Company, on behalf of the 
  Associated General Contractors of America......................   176
Question from Hon. John James to Roger Guenther, Executive 
  Director, Port Houston.........................................   177
Questions to Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
  Department, AFL-CIO, from:
    Hon. Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford...............................   177
    Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr...........................   177
    Hon. Donald M. Payne, Jr.....................................   178

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    SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER

    TO:      LMembers, Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure
    FROM:  LStaff, Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure
    RE:      LFull Committee Hearing on ``The State of 
Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges''
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                               I. PURPOSE

    The Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
(Committee) will meet on Wednesday, February 1, 2023, following 
the Committee's Organizational Meeting, in 2167 of the Rayburn 
House Office Building to receive testimony at a hearing 
entitled ``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and 
Supply Chain Challenges.'' The hearing will provide an 
opportunity for Members of the Committee to discuss the current 
state of our Nation's transportation infrastructure, the 
implementation of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act 
(IIJA, P.L. 117-58), and receive updates on North American 
supply chain challenges. Members will receive testimony from 
representatives from the American Trucking Associations (ATA), 
the Association of American Railroads (AAR), Associated General 
Contractors of America (AGC), Port Houston, and the 
Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO (TTD).

                             II. BACKGROUND

STATE OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE

    Infrastructure is generally acknowledged as the physical 
facilities that support the transportation, energy, and 
communications sectors.\1\ Transportation infrastructure is the 
underlying system of public works designed to facilitate 
movement.\2\ Based on current mobility patterns and 
transportation modes in the United States, this infrastructure 
includes roads, railways, airways, transit systems, waterways, 
canals, pipelines, bike lanes, and sidewalks, as well as 
terminals, such as airports, ports, railway stations, bus 
stations, warehouses, and trucking terminals.\3\ These systems 
are essential to the movement of people and goods nationwide 
and globally, and play an integral role in the United States' 
economic competitiveness and Americans' quality of life.
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    \1\ U.S. Dep't of Homeland Sec., FEMA, Infrastructure, available at 
https://www.fema.gov/glossary/infrastructure.
    \2\ National Geographic Resource Library, Transportation 
Infrastructure, available at https://education.nationalgeographic.org/
resource/transportation-infrastructure.
    \3\ See IGI Global, What is Transportation Infrastructure?, 
available at https://www.igi-global.com/dictionary/infrastructure-and-
growth/59134; see also DOT, Research By Mode of Transportation, 
available at https://www.transportation.gov/research-and-technology/
research-mode-transportation.
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    The United States transportation system, overseen by the 
United States Department of Transportation (DOT), includes 4.2 
million miles of public roads, nearly 620,000 bridges as of 
2020, 3.3 million miles of oil and natural gas pipelines, more 
than 250,000 miles of commercially navigable waterways, 
approximately 140,000 railroad route-miles, and more than 5,000 
public-use airports.\4\ The transportation system also includes 
more than 900 urban and 1,200 rural and Tribal public transit 
operators and more than 300 ports on the coasts, Great Lakes, 
and inland waterways.\5\
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    \4\ See OST, Transportation Statistics Annual Report (2022) 
available at https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/65841; see also DOT, 
DOT Overview, available at https://www.transportation.gov/transition/
dot-overview.
    \5\ Id.
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    Although the state of infrastructure in the United States 
was once unparalleled, according to statistics from 2019, our 
country no longer has the best infrastructure in the world.\6\ 
The World Economic Forum (WEF) ranked United States physical 
infrastructure as 13th in the world.\7\ Additionally, a Council 
of Foreign Relations' report states that the United States' 
infrastructure is dangerously overstretched and lagging behind 
economic competitors, particularly China.\8\
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    \6\ Declining Global Ranking for U.S. Infrastructure + Looming 
Highway Trust Fund Insolvency = Need for New Investment, Am. For 
Transp. Mobility (Feb. 3, 2020), available at https://
www.fasterbettersafer.org/2020/02/declining-global-ranking-for-u-s-
infrastructure-looming-highway-trust-fund-insolvency-urgent-need-for-
new-investment/.
    \7\ Klaus Schwab, The World Economic Forum, The Global 
Competitiveness Rep. (2019), available at https://www3.weforum.org/
docs/WEF_TheGlobalCompetitivenessReport2019.pdf.
    \8\ James McBride & Anshu Siripurapu, The State of U.S. 
Infrastructure, Council on Foreign Relations (Nov. 8, 2021), available 
at https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/state-us-infrastructure 
[hereinafter State of U.S. Infrastructure].
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    Further, the American Society of Civil Engineers' (ASCE) 
2021 Report Card for American Infrastructure rated America's 
overall infrastructure as a C minus.\9\ This report, issued 
prior to the enactment of IIJA, recommends the following: ``To 
improve our quality of life and strengthen our international 
competitiveness, we need a strategic and holistic plan to 
renew, modernize, and invest in our infrastructure. This plan 
should make basic maintenance a centerpiece as we improve our 
legacy systems.'' \10\ The report also encourages streamlining 
permitting processes across infrastructure sectors.\11\
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    \9\ Am. Soc. of Civil Engineers, A Comprehensive Assessment of 
America's Infrastructure: 2021 Rep. Card for America's Infrastructure 
available at https://infrastructurereportcard.org/wp-content/uploads/
2020/12/National_IRC_2021-report.pdf.
    \10\ Id.
    \11\ Id.
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    Ensuring the United States' transportation infrastructure 
systems are equipped to handle future demand from freight and 
the traveling public is also a challenge. In 2021, DOT 
projected that from 2020 to 2050, freight activity would 
increase by 50 percent in tonnage and double in value.\12\ This 
is significant, as the $20 trillion United States economy 
relies on the vast network of infrastructure, and poor 
infrastructure can impose large costs on the economy and 
negatively affect economic competitiveness.\13\ Additionally, 
the need to update and improve America's aging infrastructure 
is paramount for mobility and safety.\14\ The Biden 
Administration's DOT's Strategic Plan for Fiscal Year (FY) 2022 
to FY2026 identifies the following strategic goals: safety; 
economic strength and global competitiveness; equity; climate 
and sustainability; transformation; and organizational 
excellence.\15\
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    \12\ Press Release, Bureau of Transp. Statistics, Freight Activity 
in the U.S. Expected to Grow Fifty Percent by 2050 (Nov. 22, 2021), 
available at https://www.bts.gov/newsroom/freight-activity-us-expected-
grow-fifty-percent-2050.
    \13\ State of U.S. Infrastructure, supra note 8.
    \14\ Declining Global Ranking for U.S. Infrastructure + Looming 
Highway Trust Fund Insolvency = Need for New Investment, Americans for 
Transp. Mobility (Feb. 3, 2020), available at https://
www.fasterbettersafer.org/2020/02/declining-global-ranking-for-u-s-
infrastructure-looming-highway-trust-fund-insolvency-urgent-need-for-
new-investment/.
    \15\ DOT, Strategic Plan FY 2022-2026 available at https://
www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2022-04/US_DOT_FY2022-
26_Strategic_Plan.pdf.
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            III. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act

    On November 15, 2021, the President signed IIJA into law, 
representing the largest Federal investment in decades in the 
United States' infrastructure.\16\ This legislation provided 
$1.2 trillion for infrastructure programs over five years, from 
FY 2022 to FY 2026, of which $660 billion will be administered 
by DOT.\17\ IIJA included provisions to sustain and modernize 
the Nation's infrastructure, including roads, bridges, transit, 
railroads, and airports, as well as energy and broadband. 
Specifically, the law provides:
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    \16\ IIJA, Pub. L. 117-58, (2021).
    \17\ FHWA., Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, available at https://
www.fhwa.dot.gov/bipartisan-infrastructure-law/.
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     L$365 billion for highway programs administered by 
the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA); \18\
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    \18\ See id. (providing further information on highway programs).
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     L$108 billion for transit programs administered by 
the Federal Transit Administration (FTA); \19\
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    \19\ See FTA, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, available at https://
www.transit.dot.gov/BIL (providing further information on transit 
programs).
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     L$102 billion for rail programs administered by 
the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA); \20\
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    \20\ See FRA, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Information From FRA, 
available at https://railroads.dot.gov/BIL (providing further 
information on rail programs).
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     L$43 billion for multimodal project, safety, and 
innovation grant programs administered by the Office of the 
Secretary of Transportation (OST); \21\
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    \21\ Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Dashboard, DOT, https://
www.transportation.gov/mission/budget/bipartisan-infrastructure-law-
dashboard (last updated Dec. 28, 2021).
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     L$25 billion for aviation programs administered by 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA); \22\
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    \22\ See FAA, What the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Means for U.S. 
Aviation, available at https://www.faa.gov/bil (providing further 
information on aviation programs).
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     L$8 billion for safety programs administered by 
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA); \23\
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    \23\ See NHTSA, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, available at https:/
/www.nhtsa.gov/bipartisan-infrastructure-law (providing further 
information on NHTSA programs).
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     L$5 billion for motor carrier safety programs 
administered by Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration 
(FMSCA); \24\
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    \24\ Bipartisan Infrastructure Law: Impacts for FMCSA Grant 
Programs, DOT, https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/Bipartisan-Infrastructure-Law-
Grants (last updated Jan. 6, 2022).
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     L$2.3 billion for port and waterway programs 
administered by the Maritime Administration (MARAD); \25\ and
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    \25\ See MARAD, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law: Maritime Admin., 
available at https://www.maritime.dot.gov/about-us/bipartisan-
infrastructure-law-maritime-administration (providing further 
information on MARAD grant programs).
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     L$1 billion for modernization of natural gas 
distribution pipelines administered by the Pipeline and 
Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA).\26\
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    \26\ See Press Release, PHMSA, USDOT Begins Accepting Applications 
for President Biden's Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Program Designed to 
Improve Pipeline Safety, Reduce Gas Distribution Leak in Communities 
Across the Country, (May 24, 2022), available at https://
www.phmsa.dot.gov/news/usdot-begins-accepting-applications-president-
bidens-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-program (providing further 
information on pipeline grants).

    While IIJA provided historic levels of funding to address 
America's infrastructure needs, stakeholders have raised 
concerns that persistently high inflation is undermining those 
funding increases.\27\ The majority of funding in IIJA (under 
FHWA, FTA, and OST) allows recipients up to four years to 
obligate funding. If high inflation levels continue to hold, 
IIJA's funding increases in the outyears also would 
``erode''.\28\ However, if the higher inflation levels 
experienced since early 2021 drop, IIJA's buying power may not 
be affected in the outyears.
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    \27\ Jenni Bergal, Inflation is Cutting Into States' Big 
Infrastructure Windfall, The Pew Charitable Trusts, (Nov. 30, 2022), 
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/
2022/11/30/inflation-is-cutting-into-states-big-infrastructure-
windfall; David A. Lieb & Michael Casey, Inflation Taking a Bite Out of 
New Infrastructure Projects, Associated Press, (June 19, 2022), 
available at https://apnews.com/article/inflation-us-infrastructure-
projects-e89dcd5f3e623e532353f087265f9a63.
    \28\ Jeff Davis, How Much Could Inflation Erode IIJA Buying Power?, 
ENO Ctr. for Transp. (Apr. 27, 2022), available at https://
www.enotrans.org/article/how-much-could-inflation-erode-iija-buying-
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    Inflation began rising in January 2021, reaching a 41-year 
record high of 9.1 percent in June 2022.\29\ As of December 
2022, the 12-month inflation rate stood at 6.5 percent, and 
slowed for the sixth month in a row.\30\ However, this marks 
the 22nd consecutive month that the rate remains far above the 
two percent the Federal Reserve targets for a stable 
economy.\31\ Additionally, producer prices representing prices 
paid by businesses producing goods, increased 6.2 percent year-
over-year.\32\
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    \29\ Press Release, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Consumer 
Prices Up 9.1 Percent Over the Year ended June 2022, Largest Increase 
in 40 Years (July 18, 2022), available at https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/
2022/consumer-prices-up-9-1-percent-over-the-year-ended-june-2022-
largest-increase-in-40-years.htm.
    \30\ Press Release, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Consumer Price 
Index--Dec. 2022, (January 12, 2023), available at https://www.bls.gov/
news.release/cpi.htm.
    \31\ U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 12-Month Percentage Change, 
Consumer Price Index, selected categories, available at https://
www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-
category-line-chart.htm; Board of Governors of the Fed. Reserve System, 
Current FAQ's, What is an Acceptable Level of Inflation?, https://
www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/5D58E72F066A4DBDA80BBA659C55F774.htm (Last 
updated July 25, 2011).
    \32\ Press Release, U.S. Bureau Of Labor Statistics, Producer Price 
Indexes--December 2022 (January 18, 2023), available at https://
www.bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm.
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    In early 2022, the Eno Center for Transportation warned 
that if inflation for highway costs averaged higher than seven 
percent through 2027, the increased funding provided for 
highways under IIJA could be eliminated entirely.\33\ In June 
2022, the American Association of State Highway and 
Transportation Officials (AASHTO) also raised concerns about 
the ability of states to capitalize on IIJA funding due to 
inflation, saying ``[t]he cost of those projects is going up by 
20%, by 30%, and just wiping out that increase from the federal 
government that they were so excited about earlier in the 
year.'' \34\ Prices for construction materials remain 
particularly steep. In December 2022, the AGC cautioned that 
although inflation may be moderating in some areas, 
construction costs were still rising and squeezing businesses, 
citing an 11.2 percent increase in non-residential construction 
prices year-over-year.\35\
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    \33\ Jeff Davis, How Much Could Inflation Erode IIJA Buying Power?, 
ENO Ctr. for Transp. (Apr. 27, 2022), available at https://
www.enotrans.org/article/how-much-could-inflation-erode-iija-buying-
power/.
    \34\ David A. Lieb & Michael Casey, Inflation Taking a Bite Out of 
New Infrastructure Projects, Associated Press, (June 19, 2022), 
available at https://apnews.com/article/inflation-us-infrastructure-
projects-e89dcd5f3e623e532353f087265f9a63.
    \35\ 2022 Construction Inflation Alert, Associated Gen. Contractors 
of Am., available at https://www.agc.org/sites/default/files/users/
user21902/Construction%20Inflation%20Alert
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    Fuel costs began increasing in 2021, and over the past 
year, gasoline and diesel prices surpassed record highs.\36\ 
The rate at which these prices increased were also record-
breaking.\37\ These historically high prices contribute to 
increased business costs at multiple points in supply chains. 
After reaching a record high of $5.81 per gallon last summer, 
the National average price for a gallon of diesel fuel was 
$4.60 per gallon as of January 23, 2023, an increase of $1.89 
per gallon or about 70 percent, from January 2021.\38\ The 
average price for a gallon of regular gasoline reached an all-
time national high of $5.00 in June 2022, but as of January has 
fallen to $3.41 per gallon.\39\
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    \36\ See U.S. Energy Information Admin., Petroleum & Other Liquids, 
Weekly U.S. No 2 Diesel Retail Prices, available at https://
www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?
n=PET&s=EMD_EPD2D_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W.
    \37\ Data Spotlight, Bureau Of Transp. Statistics, Record Breaking 
Increases in Motor Fuel Prices in 2022, (Aug. 18, 2022), available at 
https://www.bts.gov/data-spotlight/record-breaking-increases-motor-
fuel-prices-2022.
    \38\ See U.S. Energy Information Admin., Petroleum & Other Liquids, 
Weekly U.S. No 2 Diesel Retail Prices, available at https://
www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?
n=PET&s=EMD_EPD2D_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W.
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         IV. Supply Chain Challenges and Administrative Actions

THE SUPPLY CHAIN

    The supply chain is defined as a network of the entire 
process of making and selling commercial goods, from the supply 
of materials, manufacture of the goods, through their 
transportation, distribution, and sale.\40\ Moving goods is 
critical to the success of this endeavor.\41\ A well-managed 
supply chain results in the efficient use of resources, reduced 
costs, a faster production cycle, and satisfied consumers.\42\
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    \40\ Jason Fenando, Supply Chain Management (SCM): How It Works and 
Why It Is Important, Investopedia, (July 7, 2022), available at https:/
/www.investopedia.com/terms/s/scm.asp.
    \41\ The Transportation Supply Chain, Supply Chain Drive, (Jan. 17, 
2021) available at https://www.supplychaindive.com/spons/the-
transportation-supply-chain/433934/.
    \42\ Jack Grimshaw, What is Supply Chain? A Definitive Guide, 
Supply Chain Digital, (May 17, 2020), available at https://
supplychaindigital.com/supply-chain-2/what-supply-chain-definitive-
guide.
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    The rapid spread of COVID-19 exposed fragilities in 
transportation networks, with a disruption in one part of the 
supply chain having a ripple effect across all parts of the 
supply chain, from manufacturers to suppliers and 
distributors.\43\ Weaknesses in the global supply chain were 
exacerbated by supply and demand imbalances, restrictions and 
regulations, and workforce and infrastructure challenges.\44\
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    \43\ Peter S. Goodman, How the Supply Chain Broke, and Why it Won't 
Be Fixed Anytime Soon, N.Y. Times (Oct. 21, 2021), available at https:/
/www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/business/shortages-supply-chain.html 
[hereinafter How the Supply Chain Broke].
    \44\ Chuin-Wei Yap, William Boston, & Alistair MacDonald, Global 
Supply-Chain Problems Escalate, Threatening Economic Recovery, Wall St. 
J., (Oct. 8, 2021), available at https://www.wsj.com/articles/supply-
chain-issues-car-chip-shortage-covid-manufacturing-global-economy-
11633713877.
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    In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, factories in Asia 
closed, and shipping companies cut schedules anticipating 
reduced demand for consumer goods.\45\ However, the rapid 
growth of e-commerce during the pandemic led to a surge in 
consumer demand that inundated the system, particularly for 
freight, shipped from Asia into West Coast ports and 
transported through the rest of the country via truck and 
rail.\46\ The lack of available space onboard vessels, trains, 
and trucks; in distribution warehouses; and at ports, impacted 
industries, frustrated consumers across the country and 
increased prices for some goods and commodities.\47\
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    \45\ See Simina Mistreanu, China's Factories Are Reeling from 
Forced Coronavirus Closures, Forbes (Feb. 23, 2020), available at 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/02/23/chinas-
factories-are-reeling-from-forced-coronavirus-closures/
?sh=21d514eb73f2; see also COVID-19 Cuts Global Maritime Trade, 
Transforms Industry, United Nations Conference on Trade and 
Development, (Nov. 12, 2020), available at https://unctad.org/news/
covid-19-cuts-global-maritime-trade-transforms-industry.
    \46\ Jessica Young, US E-Commerce Grows 32.4% in 2020, Digital 
Commerce 360 (Feb. 18, 2022), available at https://
www.digitalcommerce360.com/article/us-ecommerce-sales/.
    \47\ How the Supply Chain Broke supra note 43.
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    For example, the Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach (San 
Pedro Bay ports), the Nation's two largest container ports by 
TEU (Twenty Foot Equivalent units) for calendar year 2022, 
experienced significant cargo volume increases.\48\ The 
inability to process incoming shipping containers resulted in 
cargo logjams off-shore and within the port complex.\49\ First 
reported as a five-vessel backlog, on October 15, 2020, the 
number of vessels waiting to berth at the San Pedro Bay ports 
steadily increased during the pandemic, consistently resetting 
records before peaking at 109 vessels in January 2022.\50\ The 
backlog at the Nation's two largest container ports ended in 
November 2022, in part due to a new queuing system, reduced TEU 
volumes, and increased investments in other ports, as shippers 
and cargo carriers demanded more diversity within the 
transportation supply network.\51\
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    \48\ DOT, Bureau of Transp. Statistics, 2023 Port Performance 
Freight Statistics Program: Annual Rep. to Congress (Jan. 2023) 
available at https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/65990.
    \49\ Id.
    \50\ Paul Berger, Southern California's Notorious Container Ship 
Backup Ends: Slump in Imports, Cargo Diversions to Other Ports Help 
Shrink Quote of Dozen of Vessels, Wall St. J. (Oct. 21, 2022) available 
at https://www.wsj.com/articles/southern-californias-notorious-
container-ship-backup-ends-11666344603.
    \51\ See Alejandra Salgado, The `Ship Backup Has Ended' at Los 
Angeles, Long Beach Ports: Lower Demand as a Result of Cargo Shifting 
to the East Coast has Helped Clear the 25-month Backlog, Supply Chain 
Drive, (Nov. 23, 2022), available at https://www.supplychaindive.com/
news/the-ship-backup-has-ended-in-los-angeles-long-beach-ports/637250/; 
see also Lori Ann LaRocco, East Coast Ports Including New York are 
Winning a Domestic Trade War at the Expense of California, CNBC (Dec. 
15, 2022) available at https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/15/east-coast-
ports-like-new-york-are-winning-trade-war-over-california.html.
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BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ACTIONS TO ADDRESS THE SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS

    The Executive branch took various actions to relieve 
pressure on the supply chain, including issuing Executive Order 
(EO) 14017, ``America's Supply Chain.'' \52\ Signed on February 
21, 2021, the EO directed Federal agencies to conduct a 100-day 
review of and report on the supply chain vulnerabilities 
associated with key imports.\53\ A broader one-year review was 
also required.\54\ The order prioritized reviews by the 
Departments of Commerce, Energy, Defense, and Health and Human 
Services, which were subsequently released on June 8, 2021.\55\ 
DOT's report, Supply Chain Assessment of the Transportation 
Industrial Base: Freight and Logistics, was released on 
February 24, 2022.\56\ On the same day, the Administration 
announced additional plans to build long-term resilience in 
supply chains based on findings from the reports ordered by 
E.O. 14017.\57\
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    \52\ Exec. Order No. 14,017, 86 Fed. Reg. 11,849 (Feb. 24, 2021), 
available at https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-03-01/pdf/
2021-04280.pdf.
    \53\ Id.
    \54\ Id.
    \55\ The White House, Building Resilient Supply Chains, 
Revitalizing American Manufacturing, and Fostering Broad-Based Growth 
(June 2021) available at https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/
2021/06/100-day-supply-chain-review-report.pdf.
    \56\ DOT, Supply Chain Assessment of the Transportation Industrial 
Base: Freight and Logistics (Feb. 2022), available at https://
www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/
2022-03/EO%2014017%20-
%20DOT%20Sectoral%20Supply%20Chain%20Assessment%20-
%20Freight%20and%20Logistics_FINAL_508.pdf.
    \57\ Press Release, The White House, The Biden-Harris Plan to 
Revitalize American Manufacturing and Secure Critical Supply Chains in 
2022 (February 24, 2022) available at https://www.whitehouse.gov/
briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/24/the-biden-harris-plan-to-
revitalize-american-manufacturing-and-secure-critical-supply-chains-in-
2022/.
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    Additionally, on June 8, 2021, the White House announced 
the establishment of a Supply Chain Disruption Task Force (Task 
Force), led by the Secretaries of Commerce, Transportation, and 
Agriculture. The Task Force is directed to focus on a whole-of-
government response to address short-term supply chain 
bottlenecks, with an emphasis on ``homebuilding and 
construction, semiconductors, transportation, and agriculture 
and food.'' \58\ Coordinated by the National Economic Council, 
the Task Force produced a series of blog posts highlighting the 
congestion at ports, in addition to coordinating inter-agency 
and stakeholder meetings.\59\ This data collection function was 
transferred to the DOT in March of 2022.\60\ The Administration 
also announced the Freight Logistics Optimization Works (FLOW) 
initiative on March 15, 2022, which includes a pilot effort to 
``develop a proof-of-concept information exchange and 
operationalize it to support industry decision-making.'' \61\ 
Participants include private companies, warehousing and 
logistics firms, ports, and others.\62\ Finally, the Task Force 
led calls to implement a container dwell fee at the San Pedro 
Bay ports, as an incentive to clear long-dwelling cargo off of 
terminals. This fee was never implemented, and the authority to 
collect phased out on January 24, 2023.\63\
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    \58\ Press Release, The White House, Fact Sheet: Biden-Harris 
Administration Announces Supply Chain Disruptions Task Force to Address 
Short-Term Supply Chain Discontinuities (June 8, 2021), available at 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/
2021/06/08/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-supply-
chain-disruptions-task-force-
to-address-short-term-supply-chain-discontinuities/.
    \59\ Recent Progress at Our Ports: Robust Inventories and New Moves 
Toward Greater Velocity, The White House (Nov. 29, 2021), available at 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/nec/briefing-room/2021/11/29/recent-
progress-at-our-ports-robust-inventories-and-new-moves-toward-greater-
velocity/.
    \60\ Press Release, DOT, Transportation Supply Chain Indicators 
(Mar. 1, 2022), available at https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-
room/transportation-supply-chain-indicators.
    \61\ Agency Information Collection Activities; New Information 
Collection: Freight Logistics Optimization Works (FLOW) Initiative, 87 
Fed. Reg. 42,796 (July 18, 2022), available at https://www.govinfo.gov/
content/pkg/FR-2022-07-18/pdf/2022-15247.pdf.
    \62\ Id.
    \63\ Ports of LA, Long Beach to End Container Dwell Fee, Safety4Sea 
(Dec. 20, 2022), available at https://safety4sea.com/la-long-beach-end-
container-dwell-fee/.
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                              V. WITNESSES

     LMr. Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive 
Officer, ATA
     LMr. Ian Jefferies, President and Chief Executive 
Officer, AAR
     LMr. Jeff Firth, Vice President, Hamilton 
Construction, on behalf of AGC
     LMr. Roger Guenther, Executive Director, Port 
Houston
     LMr. Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
Department, AFL-CIO (TTD)

 
 THE STATE OF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES

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                      WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2023

                  House of Representatives,
    Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
                                            Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:05 a.m., in room 
2167 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Sam Graves (Chairman 
of the committee) presiding.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. The committee will come to order.
    I would ask unanimous consent that the chairman be 
authorized to declare a recess at any time during today's 
hearing.
    Without objection, that is so ordered.
    I now recognize myself for the purpose of an opening 
statement.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. SAM GRAVES OF MISSOURI, CHAIRMAN, 
         COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. I do point out that in my opening 
before that I said that we will have four-person panels. I see 
we have a five-person panel. My staff has just taken note of 
that. That will be corrected, but I do appreciate all of our 
witnesses being here.
    Robust and respectful discussions are very much a part of 
this process, which brings us to today's hearing, which is 
entitled ``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and 
Supply Chain Challenges,'' which kicks off our activity for the 
118th Congress.
    America has a vast transportation network that is essential 
to the Nation's economic competitiveness, the movement of 
people and goods, both nationwide and globally, and is integral 
to obviously Americans' quality of life.
    Vulnerabilities within our transportation network were laid 
bare during the COVID-19 pandemic and were only made worse by 
stifling our regulation.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, IIJA, signed 
into law on November 15, 2021, provided $1.2 trillion, roughly 
half of which went towards programs that are under this 
committee's jurisdiction. I did not support the IIJA; however, 
I do accept that it is now the law of the land.
    What we have to do is make sure that Congress, and in 
particular, this committee, ensures that the money from the 
IIJA is spent responsibly and is directed towards making our 
Nation's transportation supply chain more efficient and more 
resilient. We owe it to the American people to do just that.
    So, with that, I recognize Ranking Member Larsen for his 
opening statement.
    [Mr. Graves of Missouri's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
Prepared Statement of Hon. Sam Graves of Missouri, Chairman, Committee 
                  on Transportation and Infrastructure
    America has a vast transportation network that is essential to the 
nation's economic competitiveness, the movement of people and goods 
both nationwide and globally, and is integral to Americans' quality of 
life.
    Vulnerabilities within our transportation network were laid bare 
during the COVID-19 pandemic and were only made worse by stifling 
regulations.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), signed into law 
on November 15, 2021, provided $1.2 trillion, roughly half of which 
went toward programs under this Committee's jurisdiction.
    Although I did not support IIJA, I accept that it is the law of the 
land. What we have to do is make sure Congress and this Committee 
ensure the money from IIJA is spent responsibly and is directed toward 
making our Nation's transportation supply chain more efficient and 
resilient. We owe it to the American people to do just that.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. RICK LARSEN OF WASHINGTON, RANKING 
     MEMBER, COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

    Mr. Larsen of Washington. I ask consent to have the rest of 
your time as well on the opening statement.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Chair, thank you so much for holding this hearing. I 
appreciate it. As committee Democrats organized this week, we 
set priorities for this Congress to promote investments in a 
cleaner, greener, safer, and more accessible transportation 
network; to ensure these investments create jobs and 
opportunities; to build capacity in our communities as they put 
Federal dollars to work; to restore and protect our 
environment; and to safeguard our Nation's economic 
sustainability and competitiveness. I know Members on both 
sides of the aisle share many of these goals, and we do stand 
ready to work together in good faith where we can find common 
ground.
    We have come a long way in 2 years. At the start of the 
117th Congress, we faced an unprecedented economic challenge as 
COVID-19 placed incredible stress on American workers and 
families as well as massive pressure on supply chains. These 
pressures exposed the fragilities of an aging, congested, and 
overburdened transportation and infrastructure network that was 
dangerously overdue for an overhaul.
    Last Congress, we finally responded decisively to bolster 
our economy and limit the fallout from the immediate crisis 
facing our Nation, while modernizing and transforming the way 
people and goods move, with the passage of several landmark 
bills: the American Rescue Plan, the Inflation Reduction Act, 
the CHIPS and Science Act, and the Bipartisan Infrastructure 
Law, or BIL. This committee had the largest role in delivering 
the BIL and will continue to focus on the implementation of the 
$660 billion where we have oversight.
    This dollar amount and the number of grant opportunities is 
significantly larger than any previous transportation or 
infrastructure authorization that the DOT has administered. And 
the pace at which these dollars are reaching communities is 
impressive.
    DOT has already made available over $150 billion in 
highway, transit, and airport formula money over fiscal years 
2022 and 2023. And these are not federally controlled dollars. 
This funding passes through the U.S. DOT directly to States and 
local governments to build projects--projects designed and 
built by private sector construction and engineering firms and 
workers they hire in everyone's districts. That is why you will 
hear me say frequently that transportation means jobs.
    States have launched 29,000 new projects with Federal 
highway formula funding in fiscal year 2022, according to an 
analysis from the American Road and Transportation Builders 
Association. That is at least one new project underway in every 
congressional district in the country. The BIL also provides 
funding for competitive grant programs, and, to date, the 
administration has announced funding for 6,900 projects under 
competitive grants to over 4,000 communities nationwide for 
roads, bridges, rail, buses, ferries, ports, safety projects, 
and other infrastructure needs.
    BIL grants provide strong support for projects in 
geographically diverse areas. Under the RAISE grant program, 
funds are awarded evenly between rural and urban areas. In the 
latest round of INFRA grants totaling $1.5 billion, 15 of 26 
projects selected were in rural areas. The Rural Surface 
Transportation Grant Program awarded $274 million to 12 
projects in its first funding round as well. And it supports 
major projects that are larger than any one State or community 
could advance, such as the recently announced grants for the 
Hudson tunnels in New York and the Brent Spence Bridge 
connecting Ohio and Kentucky.
    BIL also includes grants exclusively for Tribes and local 
communities, such as the Tribal Transportation Program Safety 
Funds and Safe Streets and Roads for All, to ensure these 
communities reap the benefits of transportation investments.
    So, we have 4 more years of this bill to implement for 
States and local communities and Tribes, and oversight to 
continue. We need to ensure that the investments represent a 
benefit for our local priorities, put people to work in our 
districts, and maintain and modernize our infrastructure.
    However, this won't happen if we play chicken with the U.S. 
ability to invest, especially invest in our competitiveness, 
and threaten the U.S. economy with a catastrophic default on 
our debt. That would set back infrastructure projects 
immeasurably. So, we need to ensure that we find a way to come 
up with a debt ceiling deal so that infrastructure investments 
and the money that comes with it are not cut or eliminated over 
time. And I hope we can focus some of our work on defining what 
would happen if there is a default and what would happen to 
transportation investments.
    I look forward to working with you. We are going to hear 
today about how inflation is undercutting the purchasing power 
of Federal transportation dollars. We will hear today as well 
about how the BIL has invested in U.S. competitiveness in our 
transportation infrastructure.
    And finally, with the time I have left, I want to emphasize 
human infrastructure, the need to develop today's necessary 
workforce and to build a pipeline for new workers in the next 
generation of infrastructure investment.
    I want to thank our witnesses today.
    With that, I yield back.
    [Mr. Larsen of Washington's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Hon. Rick Larsen of Washington, Ranking Member, 
             Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
    Thank you, Chairman Graves, for holding this hearing. I look 
forward to partnering with you in support of our nation's 
transportation and infrastructure--a bipartisan tradition of this 
Committee.
    As Committee Democrats organized this week, we set priorities for 
this Congress:
    1.  Promote investments in a cleaner, greener, safer, and more 
accessible transportation network;
    2.  Ensure these investments create jobs and opportunities for all 
people;
    3.  Build capacity in our communities as they put federal dollars 
to work;
    4.  Restore and protect our environment; and
    5.  Safeguard our nation's economic sustainability and 
competitiveness.

    I know Members on the other side of the aisle share many of these 
goals. We stand ready to work together in good faith where we can find 
common ground.
    We have come a long way in two years. At the start of the 117th 
Congress, America faced unprecedented economic challenges as the COVID-
19 pandemic placed incredible stress on American workers and families 
as well as massive pressure on supply chains.
    These pressures exposed the fragilities of an aging, congested, and 
overburdened transportation and infrastructure network that was 
dangerously overdue for an overhaul--cries for which echoed in the 
halls of Congress for nearly a decade of Infrastructure Week after 
Infrastructure Week.
    Last Congress, we finally responded decisively to bolster our 
economy and limit the fallout from the immediate crisis facing our 
nation, while modernizing and transforming the way people and goods 
move, with the passage of several landmark bills: the American Rescue 
Plan, and the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS and Science Act, and 
the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL).
    Of these, this Committee had the largest role in delivering the BIL 
and will continue to focus on implementation of the $660 billion under 
U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) that we oversee.
    This dollar amount, and the number of grant opportunities, is 
significantly larger than any previous transportation or infrastructure 
authorization administered by DOT. And the pace at which these dollars 
are reaching communities is truly impressive.
    DOT has already made available over $150 billion in highway, 
transit, and airport formula funds for Fiscal Years 2022 and 2023.
    These are not federally controlled programs. This funding passes 
through U.S. DOT directly to states and local governments to build 
projects--projects designed and built by private sector construction 
and engineering firms and workers they hire in our districts. That is 
why you will hear me say frequently: transportation means jobs.
    States have launched 29,000 new projects with federal highway 
formula funding in FY 2022, according to analysis by ARTBA (American 
Road & Transportation Builders Association). There is at least one new 
project underway in every Congressional district in the country.
    The BIL also provides funding for competitive grant programs. To 
date, the Administration has announced funding for 6,900 projects under 
competitive grants to over 4,000 communities nationwide for roads, 
bridges, rail, buses, ferries, ports, safety, and other infrastructure 
needs.
    BIL grants provide strong support for projects in red and blue 
states, and in urban and rural areas. Under the RAISE grant program, 
funds are awarded evenly between rural and urban areas. In the latest 
round of INFRA grants totaling $1.5 billion, 15 of 26 projects selected 
were in rural areas. The Rural Surface Transportation Grant Program 
awarded $274 million to 12 projects in its first funding round.
    BIL grants support major projects that are larger than any one 
state or community could advance, such as the recently announced grants 
for the Hudson tunnels in New York and the Brent Spence bridge 
connecting Ohio and Kentucky.
    BIL also includes grants exclusively for Tribes and local 
communities, such as Tribal Transportation Program Safety Funds and 
Safe Streets and Roads for All, to ensure that these communities reap 
the benefits of transportation investments.
    This is just the start. BIL will deliver benefits for communities 
across the country and create good jobs for years to come, with 
guaranteed funding through 2026. That's four years for the states, 
local communities, and Tribes we represent to benefit from forward-
looking investments in local priorities, put people to work in each of 
our districts, and maintain and modernize our infrastructure.
    That won't happen if we play chicken with our competitiveness and 
threaten the economy with a catastrophic default on our debt. That 
would set back infrastructure projects immeasurably.
    It won't happen if we play politics with this money. I caution my 
colleagues to think hard before seeking to repeal or rewrite the rules 
for BIL programs. Eliminating programs has an obvious effect. However, 
even smaller changes to program considerations or eligibilities will 
block the quick pass-through of these funds to our communities if DOT 
has to go back to the drawing board.
    Our transportation system's shortcomings and our planet's 
challenges can't be ignored or wished away. Taking measured action--in 
line with statutory authority--to evolve how we move people and goods 
is responsible and appropriate, and that is what this Administration is 
doing with BIL funding.
    Without the investments made by the major laws enacted last 
Congress, our economy would be in far worse shape today. This committee 
held a hearing on industry and labor perspectives on the supply chain 
crisis in November 2021--where witnesses, many of whom are here again 
today, hailed the passage of the BIL and its positive impacts to 
improve our freight network supply chain.
    We will hear today how inflation is undercutting the purchasing 
power of federal transportation dollars. To the critics who want to 
brush off the impacts of the BIL, know this--funding provided by this 
law was the largest increase in investment in over 50 years to roads, 
bridges, transit, and safety projects. It provides the largest 
investment in passenger rail service since the Amtrak was established.
    As pointed out in ARTBA's recent testimony before the Senate, even 
with inflation taken into account, there has been market growth over 
the last year in the construction sector; whereas without the BIL, ``we 
would likely be looking at a market contraction.'' Congress did its job 
to give the transportation construction sector the long-term resources 
to ride out tough economic times.
    Physical assets and facilities are a huge part of rebuilding 
America's infrastructure, but they are only one part of the equation. 
Investing in human infrastructure is equally important to the long-term 
success and sustainability of our transportation systems and the supply 
chain network.
    That's why you'll see a clear focus among committee Democrats as we 
oversee implementation of BIL and other laws, and work on new 
legislative initiatives to protect good wages and benefits, ensure safe 
working conditions, create opportunities for underrepresented groups, 
and support strong training and workforce development.
    Thank you to each of our witnesses for joining us today. I look 
forward to your testimony.

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you.
    Now I would like to welcome all of our witnesses here 
today, and thank you for coming in and for your testimony.
    Just to explain the light system real quick. Green means 
go, yellow means you are running out of time, and red means you 
are out of time.
    I would ask unanimous consent that the witnesses' full 
statements be included in the record.
    And, without objection, that is so ordered.
    As your written testimony has been made part of the record, 
the committee asks that you try to limit your remarks to 5 
minutes.
    And, with that, we have Mr. Chris Spear, who is the 
president and chief executive officer of the American Trucking 
Associations. Thanks for being here.

    TESTIMONY OF CHRIS SPEAR, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
    OFFICER, AMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS; IAN JEFFERIES, 
PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN 
 RAILROADS; JEFF FIRTH, VICE PRESIDENT, HAMILTON CONSTRUCTION 
  COMPANY, ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF 
AMERICA; ROGER GUENTHER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PORT HOUSTON; AND 
 GREG REGAN, PRESIDENT, TRANSPORTATION TRADES DEPARTMENT, AFL-
                              CIO

    TESTIMONY OF CHRIS SPEAR, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
            OFFICER, AMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS

    Mr. Spear. Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and 
members of this committee, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify this morning.
    For 90 years, the ATA has helped Congress shape its 
understanding of our Nation's infrastructure needs and supply 
chain challenges, and today's oversight is both welcome and 
timely. The IIJA provided a 38-percent increase in road and 
bridge funding, a historic investment not witnessed since the 
Eisenhower era. Prior to passage, ATA testified 25 times before 
the House and Senate, sharing how the decaying state of our 
Nation's infrastructure is hamstringing America's ability to 
compete with rising global powers, like China. In short, a 
first world economy cannot survive a developing world 
infrastructure.
    While the ATA strongly supported the IIJA, it was not a 
perfect piece of legislation. No bill is. This hearing provides 
oversight of $1.2 trillion of taxpayer-earned income. An 
industry that makes up just 4 percent of the vehicles on our 
Nation's highways, yet pays nearly half the tab into the 
Federal Highway Trust Fund, we ask that every dollar be spent 
wisely and in accordance with what Congress instructed.
    To that end, ATA objects to the Federal Highway 
Administration's memorandum directing the IIJA moneys be spent 
on existing roads and bridges and not new construction. Not 
only does this directly conflict with congressional intent, it 
does nothing to address congestion, improve safety, and reduce 
emissions. Our industry loses nearly $75 billion a year sitting 
in congestion annually. That is 425,000 drivers sitting idle 
every year. That is 6.87 billion gallons of fuel, more than $34 
billion of wasted energy. That is 67.3 million metric tons of 
CO2 being pumped into our environment.
    Let me be clear, funding existing infrastructure alone does 
nothing to fix congestion, it just makes it worse. Congress has 
proven that it can do the right thing: passage of the Ocean 
Shipping Reform Act, passage of the CHIPS Act. We need more of 
this. We need new, secure truck parking capacities proposed by 
the bipartisan Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act. We need a 
greater emphasis on our workforce.
    The IIJA, including elements of the bipartisan DRIVE Safe 
Act, will do what none of the 49 States have done, requiring 
training and technology for young talent to operate our 
equipment. What the IIJA didn't do is require inward-facing 
cameras, opposed by drivers young and old, union and nonunion. 
Requiring a company camera be in a driver's workspace every 
minute of every hour, including the sleeper berth, is 
intrusive, disrespectful, and opens a prying door into the 
other transportation modes. Your oversight is warranted.
    Lastly, we need a realistic discussion about our Nation's 
energy and environmental policies. For four decades, ATA has 
worked with the EPA producing phases 1 and 2 emissions 
reduction rules. To date, 98.5 percent of all emissions have 
been removed from our tailpipes. In fact, 60 trucks today emit 
what 1 truck emitted in 1988. This is not a matter of if we get 
to zero, but when. And we will get there, just not on the 
timelines being proposed in California. Their rush to zero 
makes their timeline and targets unachievable, and they will 
fail. The rare minerals needed for millions of 5,000-pound 
truck batteries, the infrastructure needed to charge them, and 
the additional electricity needed to power our trucks full 
scale doesn't yet exist, and won't anytime soon.
    Again, we are committed to a cleaner environment. We have 
proven that. We simply ask we be realistic about the path 
forward. Do that and we will have the best infrastructure and 
the strongest, most sustainable economy like no other.
    I thank the committee and yield.
    [Mr. Spear's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
   Prepared Statement of Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive 
                Officer, American Trucking Associations
                              Introduction
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and Members of the 
Committee, I appreciate the opportunity to testify before you today on 
behalf of the American Trucking Associations (ATA).\1\
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    \1\ The American Trucking Associations is the largest national 
trade association for the trucking industry. Through a federation of 50 
affiliated state trucking associations and industry-related conferences 
and councils, ATA is the voice of the industry America depends on most 
to move our nation's freight.
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    ATA is a 90-year-old federation and the largest national trade 
organization representing the 7.65 million men and women working in the 
trucking industry. ATA is a fifty-state federation that encompasses 
34,000 motor carriers as well as their corresponding suppliers. ATA 
represents every sector of the industry, from Less-than-Truckload to 
Truckload, agriculture and livestock transporters to auto haulers and 
movers, and large motor carriers to mom-and-pop one-truck operations. 
ATA member companies have overcome tremendous challenges over the past 
couple years and will continue to adjust as international and domestic 
supply chains recalibrate in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.
    The pandemic and resulting supply chain crisis shined a glaring 
spotlight on the costs of inaction. Over the last few decades, federal 
leadership and investment in infrastructure have decreased 
significantly, and our nation's transportation networks have gradually 
fallen into a state of disrepair. Years of neglect have materialized as 
deteriorating roads and bridges, unreliable intermodal connectors, a 
shortage of truck parking capacity, severe congestion, insufficient 
space at and around ports, and paralyzing freight bottlenecks. These 
inefficiencies predate the pandemic but were exacerbated by the global 
supply chain disruptions, and industry is still navigating the long-
term consequences. The inescapable conclusion is that decades of 
underinvestment in our nation's transportation networks have weakened 
our supply chains and global economic competitiveness.
    If the United States is to remain the leading economy, it must have 
the best infrastructure and a resilient transportation network that can 
withstand supply chain pressures. ATA applauded enactment of the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) last Congress because the 
legislation provides significant resources to remedy years of neglect, 
improve the efficiency of our transportation networks, and enhance U.S. 
competitiveness in the global economy. Looking forward, we hope that 
Congress will resolve its differences over existential threats to our 
economy--such as addressing the debt limit--so that we can continue 
implementing the necessary improvements to keep freight flowing through 
our supply chains.
    To be clear, the degree to which investments in transportation 
infrastructure improve supply chain efficiency depends largely on how 
infrastructure investment strategies are defined and implemented. The 
IIJA has the potential to move the needle, but funding must be 
prioritized and allocated for projects that improve supply chain 
inefficiencies. As evidenced by the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, 
and as highlighted by the current challenges facing our supply chains, 
trucking is the dynamic linchpin of the U.S. economy, but trucking can 
only be as efficient as the roads and bridges upon which we operate.
    Relatedly, the truck driver shortage and regulations impacting the 
movement of freight also limit supply chain efficiency. In 2021, the 
driver shortage reached a record high of roughly 81,000, and that 
number is only expected to grow over the next decade. Despite this 
significant and persistent labor constraint, some in Congress continue 
to contemplate the Protecting the Right to Organize (PRO) Act and other 
legislation that would decimate the independent contractor business 
model and ban most independent owner-operators from working in the 
trucking industry. If enacted, these legislative proposals would 
destroy the livelihoods of over 350,000 small business entrepreneurs 
and needlessly gut the nation's already fragile supply chain.
    More than 80% of U.S. communities rely exclusively on trucking to 
meet their freight transportation needs, and trucking currently moves 
more than 70% of the nation's annual freight tonnage.\2\ Over the next 
decade, trucks will be tasked with moving 2.4 billion more tons of 
freight than they do today, and trucks will continue to deliver the 
vast majority of goods to American communities.\3\ Smart, forward-
leaning investments in our nation's transportation infrastructure 
coupled with concerted efforts to bolster the trucking workforce will 
help the industry meet these increasing demands.
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    \2\ U.S. Census Bureau Commodity Flow Survey. U.S. Census Bureau, 
2017.
    \3\ Freight Transportation Forecast 2020 to 2031. American Trucking 
Associations, 2020.
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    As the Committee examines the nation's transportation 
infrastructure needs and ongoing supply chain challenges, I ask that 
you please consider four key areas: 1) responsible implementation of 
the IIJA, 2) workforce development for supply chain resiliency, 3) 
implementation of ocean shipping reforms to ensure the efficient 
movement of goods, and 4) ambitious yet achievable energy and 
environmental policies. I will address each of these areas in detail in 
my testimony, as they are critical to ensuring the economic vitality 
and competitiveness of the American trucking industry.
    Thank you for holding today's hearing to consider these critical 
issues. I look forward to working with you to share information and 
inform potential legislative solutions to protect the safe and 
efficient movement of our nation's goods.
                 In Pursuit of the Best Infrastructure
    Well-maintained, reliable, and efficient infrastructure is crucial 
to the delivery of the nation's freight--both international and 
domestic--and vital to our country's economic and social well-being. 
That is why ATA applauded enactment of the historic Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) in 2021. The IIJA represents the largest 
investment in our nation's infrastructure and competitiveness in nearly 
a century, and we remain optimistic that the bill will create the 
conditions necessary for long-term prosperity and growth.
Barriers To Supply Chain Efficiency
    Enactment of the IIJA is all the more important when one digs 
deeper into the entrenched problems that plague our nation's highway 
infrastructure. Highway congestion, for example, adds nearly $75 
billion to the cost of freight transportation each year.\4\ In 2016, 
truck drivers sat in traffic for nearly 1.2 billion hours, equivalent 
to more than 425,000 drivers sitting idle for a year.\5\ This caused 
the trucking industry to consume an additional 6.87 billion gallons of 
fuel in 2016, representing approximately 13% of the industry's total 
fuel consumption, and resulting in 67.3 million metric tons of excess 
carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions.\6\
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    \4\ Cost of Congestion to the Trucking Industry: 2018 Update. 
American Transportation Research Institute, Oct. 2018.
    \5\ Ibid.
    \6\ Fixing the 12% Case Study: Atlanta, GA. American Transportation 
Research Institute, Feb. 2019.
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    Congestion serves as a brake on economic growth and job creation 
nationwide. A first-world economy cannot survive a developing-world 
infrastructure system. As such, the federal government has an 
obligation to ensure that necessary resources are available to address 
this self-imposed and completely solvable situation. Specifically, ATA 
recommends that the U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) 
prioritize the discretionary program resources made available by the 
IIJA to address major freight bottlenecks. A recent report from the 
American Transportation Research Institute identified the top 100 
freight bottlenecks nationwide.\7\ Furthermore, given the importance of 
the National Highway System--and especially the Interstate System--to 
the supply chain, a greater share of federal investment should be 
directed toward the maintenance and improvement of these highways.
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    \7\ Top 100 Bottlenecks--2022. American Transportation Research 
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    Another barrier to supply chain efficiency is the poor state of 
freight intermodal connectors--those roads that connect ports, rail 
yards, airports and other intermodal facilities to the National Highway 
System--are critical to trade. While they are an essential part of the 
freight distribution system, many are neglected and denied the 
attention they deserve in spite of their importance to the nation's 
economy. Just 9% of connectors are in good or very good condition, 19% 
are in mediocre condition, and 37% are in poor condition.\8\ Not only 
do poor roads damage both vehicles and the freight they carry, but the 
Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) found a correlation between poor 
roads and vehicle speed. Average speed on a connector in poor condition 
was 22% lower than on connectors in fair or better condition.\9\ FHWA 
further found that congestion on freight intermodal connectors causes 
1,059,238 hours of truck delay annually and 12,181,234 hours of 
automobile delay.\10\ Congestion on freight intermodal connectors adds 
nearly $71 million to freight transportation costs each year.\11\
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    \8\ Freight Intermodal Connectors Study. Federal Highway 
Administration, April 2017.
    \9\ Ibid.
    \10\ Ibid.
    \11\ An Analysis of the Operational Costs of Trucking: 2018 Update. 
American Transportation Research Institute, Oct. 2018. Estimates 
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    One possible reason connectors are neglected is that the vast 
majority of these roads (70%) are under the jurisdiction of a local or 
county government.\12\ Yet, these roads are serving critical regional, 
national, and international needs well beyond the geographic boundaries 
of the jurisdictions that have responsibility for them, and these 
broader benefits may not be factored into the local jurisdictions' 
spending decisions. While intermodal connectors are eligible for 
federal funding, it is clear that this is simply not good enough. ATA 
supports a set-aside of funding for freight intermodal connectors to 
ensure that these critical arteries are given the attention and 
resources they deserve.
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Prioritization of Projects That Improve Freight Mobility
    Although the IIJA did not set aside funding for either highway 
bottleneck elimination or intermodal connectors, these projects are 
eligible for funding under several of the discretionary programs, 
including the Nationally Significant Freight and Highway Projects 
Program, the Bridge Investment Program, the National Infrastructure 
Project Assistance Program, and the Local and Regional Project 
Assistance Program. Congress should provide the necessary oversight to 
ensure that the resources available from these important programs are 
used primarily for projects that improve transportation safety and 
mobility, as well as projects that address infrastructure deficiencies 
that contribute to supply chain inefficiencies. These programs should 
not be used to advance parochial agendas that are outside of their 
Congressionally-mandated scope. Under the IIJA, States will receive 
more than $50 billion per year in federal-aid highway funding, and much 
of that can be used to repair and modernize existing infrastructure to 
improve the performance of freight corridors.
    Additionally, ATA recommends against federal policies that are 
likely to prevent or hamstring State and local agencies' efforts to 
expand highway capacity. This includes conditioning the expenditure of 
federal funds for new capacity on a showing that alternatives, such as 
operational strategies or investment in alternative transportation 
modes, are definitively ruled out. The National Environmental Policy 
Act (NEPA) process already requires consideration of alternatives, and 
layering additional requirements onto the existing process is 
redundant, costly, and cumbersome. We are also concerned about policies 
that seek to eliminate or downgrade highways in the name of equity or 
environmental justice without fully accounting for the impacts of these 
approaches on supply chain efficiency.
    Furthermore, ATA is concerned about a December 16, 2021 Federal 
Highway Administration (FHWA) memorandum to its staff that outlined 
Administration policies with regard to the federal-aid highway program. 
The memo, in part, directed staff to ``encourage'' states and other 
federal-aid recipients to prioritize roadway maintenance and non-
highway modal projects over the construction of new highway capacity. 
This directly contravenes policies that Congress rejected during IIJA 
debate. While USDOT claims that the memo will not have a substantial 
impact on project selection, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) 
disagrees. In a December 15, 2022 report, GAO stated that the memo ``. 
. . sets out FHWA's preferred projects for funding under the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. When an agency rule has the 
effect of inducing changes to the internal policy or operations choices 
of the regulated community, that rule has a substantial impact on the 
rights and obligations of non-agency parties.'' \13\ Therefore, GAO 
concluded that the memo is subject to the Congressional Review Act. ATA 
strongly supports current efforts by Members of Congress to pass a 
resolution of disapproval that negates the effects of the FHWA memo.
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    \13\ Federal Highway Administration--Policy on Using Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law Resources to Build a Better America. U.S. Government 
Accountability Office, December 15, 2022.
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Truck Parking
    Another barrier to supply chain efficiency is the shortage of truck 
parking, which has been well documented for decades. In 2015, the 
Federal Highway Administration's Jason's Law report acknowledged the 
shortage of truck parking capacity as a serious highway safety concern. 
The FHWA found that more than 75% of truck drivers and almost 66% of 
logistics personnel ``regularly [experienced] problems with finding 
safe parking locations when rest was needed.'' \14\ Due to inaction at 
the federal, state, and local level, the truck parking shortage has 
only worsened since 2016. In 2019, the FHWA found that the percentage 
of drivers who regularly experienced difficulty finding truck parking 
had skyrocketed from 75% to 98%.\15\
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    \14\ Jason's Law Truck Parking Survey Results and Comparative 
Analysis. Federal Highway Administration, U.S. Department of 
Transportation, August 2015.
    \15\ Jason's Law Commercial Motor Vehicle Parking Survey and 
Comparative Assessment Presentation. Federal Highway Administration, 
U.S. Department of Transportation, December 2020.
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    The lack of available truck parking has a severe impact on the 
health and wellbeing of truck drivers, but it also contributes to 
driver utilization inefficiencies. Time spent looking for available 
truck parking costs the average driver about $5,500 in direct lost 
compensation--or a 12% cut in annual pay, according to a 2016 
report.\16\ Truck drivers give up an average of 56 minutes of available 
drive time per day parking early to avoid the risk of being unable to 
find authorized parking down the road. Additionally, hours-of-service 
(HOS) violations stemming from an inability to find safe, legal truck 
parking can be costly as well. HOS fines range from $150 to $16,000, 
and an accumulation of violations can lead to a decrease in a driver's 
safety history, leading to higher insurance rates and even license 
suspension. All of these factors contribute to the driver shortage and 
supply chain inefficiency.
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    \16\ Managing Critical Truck Parking Case Study: Real World 
Insights from Truck Parking Diaries. American Transportation Research 
Institute, December 2016.
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    Federal investment in the expansion of trucking parking capacity is 
key to addressing this longstanding problem. ATA supports the Truck 
Parking Safety Improvement Act, which would establish a competitive 
discretionary grant program and dedicate $755 million over five years 
for truck parking projects across the country. Unfortunately, the IIJA 
did not include dedicated funding for truck parking. We encourage 
Congress to seek other opportunities to address this critical problem.
Consistent, Sustainable Funding
    Underpinning all these recommendations is the need for a long-term, 
stable revenue source. Without one, states will find it difficult to 
commit to funding crucial and expensive projects. The fuel tax has, for 
at least a century, provided that stable income. However, because 
Congress has failed to increase the rate of the federal tax since 1993, 
inflation has significantly reduced the value of the revenue generated 
by the tax. While the fuel tax will likely have to be replaced or 
supplemented at some point, it will be a viable revenue source for at 
least the next decade, and the rate of tax should be raised and indexed 
to inflation. In the meantime, the Administration should work with 
Congress, the States, and the private sector to find a viable 
replacement for the fuel tax that can provide stable highway funding 
for the foreseeable future. The IIJA included funding for State, 
national, and local pilot programs to explore new revenue sources. ATA 
looks forward to working with the U.S. Department of Transportation and 
grant recipients to implement a robust and comprehensive research and 
testing program.
Emergency Weight Limits Permit System Reform
    Natural disasters--hurricanes, tornados, floods, wildfires or 
pandemics, to name a few--can cause serious disruption to communities 
for days, weeks, or even months. In the aftermath of disasters, the 
trucking industry gets to work providing life-saving supplies and 
helping affected communities to recover. Relief and recovery supplies 
can include water for drinking or fighting fires, food, generators, 
equipment for rebuilding a decimated power grid, trailers to provide 
shelter for those who are suddenly made homeless, or building supplies 
to repair or replace damaged homes, buildings, roads or bridges. In 
addition, trucks must often remove thousands of tons of debris in order 
to allow the recovery process to begin.
    Most often in these scenarios, time is of the essence. Lives are at 
risk when potable water is in short supply, hospital or nursing home 
patients too sick to evacuate do not have the electricity needed to 
power life-saving medical equipment, or water needed to fight wildfires 
is in short supply. In these cases, maximizing the trucking industry's 
ability to move as much cargo as possible, as quickly as possible, is 
critical. A key to expediting these loads is to maximize a truck's 
cargo space by allowing the trucking company to exceed state and 
federal weight limits on a temporary basis.
    Federal law limits a truck's gross (total) and axle weights when 
they are operating on the Interstate Highway System. States determine 
weight limits on non-Interstate roads. In 2012, federal law authorized 
states to issue special overweight permits for vehicles and loads that 
are delivering relief supplies during a Presidentially-declared 
emergency or major disaster. Both the routes that permitted trucks may 
operate on and the weight limits are to be determined by each state. A 
Presidential declaration expires after 120 days. Trucks operating under 
special permit may only deliver to a destination in the locations 
covered by the declaration, or haul debris from those locations. An 
overweight vehicle must have a permit from each state in which it 
operates if that vehicle exceeds the state's legal weight limits.
    In practice the current system has significant flaws. Emergencies 
that qualify under the Stafford Act are limited to traditional natural 
disasters such as floods and hurricanes. Certain emergencies, such as 
the supply chain crisis caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the energy 
shortage caused by the cybersecurity attack on the Colonial Pipeline, 
do not qualify. In addition, relying on a Presidential declaration to 
enable the issuance of permits is problematic. First, some situations 
do not rise to the level of a national emergency. Some are more limited 
in scope, but still require a significant response from the trucking 
industry. Waiting for a Presidential declaration can also slow the 
process or make it less effective. Finally, Stafford Act declarations 
expire after 120 days. In some cases--the COVID-19 pandemic being a 
good example--emergency response may need to be extended.
    To address these challenges, ATA recommends the following changes 
to federal law governing the issuance of emergency overweight permits:
      A more expansive definition of qualifying emergencies 
must be implemented to ensure that all potential situations receive an 
adequate response;
      Both the Secretary of Transportation (or Federal Highway 
Administrator) and Governors should be given the authority to issue an 
emergency declaration that enables the issuance of emergency overweight 
permits. If Governors issue the declaration FHWA should have the 
authority to override the order if it finds that the declaration is not 
consistent with Federal law; and
      The Secretary or FHWA Administrator should be given the 
authority to extend the declaration beyond 120 days.
                  In Pursuit of a Qualified Workforce
    The trucking industry, which serves as the backbone of our nation's 
economy and supply chain, continues to face significant driver 
shortages. In 2022, the shortage of qualified drivers reached a near-
record high of 78,000.\17\ The already substantial shortage is expected 
to increase to 160,000 drivers by 2031 absent any changes to the status 
quo. Furthermore, over the next decade, the industry will need to hire 
roughly 1.2 million new drivers to keep pace with growing demand and an 
aging workforce.\18\
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    \17\ ATA Driver Shortage Update 2022. American Trucking 
Associations, October 25, 2022. Available online at: https://
ata.msgfocus.com/files/amf_highroad_solution/project_2358/
ATA_Driver_Shortage_Report_2022_Executive_Summary.October22.pdf 
(accessed January 19, 2023).
    \18\ Ibid.
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    The driver shortage is the result of many concurrent factors. Like 
many industries, we are witnessing how the downstream impacts of the 
COVID-19 pandemic continue to exacerbate the trucking industry's 
already-dire labor constraints. The work to rebuild from the pandemic's 
effects will certainly take some time. In the meantime, companies 
working throughout the supply chain are facing higher transportation 
costs, leading to increased prices for consumers on everything from 
electronics to food. The driver shortage is a looming threat that, if 
left unaddressed, could destabilize the continuity of trucking 
operations with ripple effects across the supply chain that will be 
felt by every American.
Addressing the Driver Shortage
    Given these realities, ATA is vitally interested in safely 
expanding the number of professional drivers to meet the demand for 
freight transportation in our economy. The shortage will only continue 
to grow unless Congress and regulators modernize requirements that 
govern who can drive in interstate commerce and make targeted 
investments in programs to attract a new, diverse generation of drivers 
and supply chain workers to the transportation industry.
    We need Congress and the Administration to help us grow our 
workforce. The trucking industry offers fulfilling careers with family-
sustaining salaries--all without the debt that often accompanies a 
college degree--but obsolete regulatory barriers prevent the trucking 
industry from offering these pathways to recent high school graduates 
who may otherwise want to pursue a career in trucking. Truck drivers 
make good salaries, with truckload drivers earning a median amount of 
$69,687 per year, not including benefits, according to the ATA industry 
survey for 2021.\19\ This represents an 18% increase from 2019.\20\ 
Recent Bureau of Labor Statistics data on weekly earnings in the long-
haul trucking sector show that average earnings are $1,202.04 per week 
or over $62,500 when annualized.\21\
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    \19\ 2022 ATA Driver Compensation Study Executive Summary. American 
Trucking Associations, June 30, 2022. Available online at: https://
ata.msgfocus.com/files/amf_highroad_solution/project_2358/
ATA_2022_Driver_Compensation_Study_-_Press_Executive_Summary.pdf 
(accessed January 19, 2023).
    \20\ Ibid.
    \21\ Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment 
Statistics survey (National), Average weekly earnings of production and 
nonsupervisory employees, general freight trucking, long-distance tl, 
seasonally adjusted, Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Department of 
Labor, November 2022. Available online at: https://beta.bls.gov/
dataViewer/view/timeseries/
CES4348412130;jsessionid=AE34706CE9F6C023880E7FE11F660D0C (accessed 
January 19, 2023).
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    In addition to rising pay, many fleets offer generous signing 
bonuses and other expanded benefits packages to attract and keep 
drivers. We want to welcome more individuals into the trucking 
industry, but we need Congress' help to open up career pathways that 
are currently closed to qualified individuals due to outdated or 
artificial barriers. One such outdated regulatory barrier is the 
general prohibition of 18-to-20-year-old drivers from driving trucks in 
interstate commerce, even though these same individuals are allowed to 
obtain their CDLs and drive in 49 States and the District of Columbia.
Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program
    As you know, ATA strongly supported the inclusion of the Safe 
Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program (SDAP) into the IIJA, and we are 
grateful that it was included as Sec. 23022 of the Act. This program, 
which was the result of a carefully crafted bipartisan compromise, will 
allow 18-to-20-year-old drivers to be trained as professional truck 
drivers and drive in interstate commerce, much like they are able to do 
in intrastate commerce in 49 States plus the District of Columbia. 
Through this program, the U.S. Department of Transportation will be 
able to collect data that proves what the States and the District of 
Columbia already know--that these individuals can be trained to safely 
operate in interstate commerce, just like they are able to do in 
intrastate commerce. ATA and its members are actively working to ensure 
that the entire 3,000 available apprentice slots in the program are 
filled.
    We are enthusiastic about the SDAP and want it to be successful. 
That said, the rollout of the program has been frustratingly slow, and 
USDOT added additional requirements not found in law. These include a 
requirement that participating motor carriers be part of a U.S. 
Department of Labor-approved Registered Apprenticeship Program (RAP) to 
be eligible, and a requirement that participating motor carriers 
utilize another safety technology beyond the six safety technologies 
already required. I will also note that the latter requirement was 
added almost eight months after enactment of the IIJA.\22\ The last-
minute equipment addition prompted several motor carriers to decline 
participation in the program. Others who do not have a RAP may have 
also chosen not to participate.
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    \22\ The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Public Law 117-58, 
was signed into law on November 15, 2021. The additional equipment 
requirement of an in-cab, inward-facing camera was first announced in a 
July 2022 Federal Register notice. Agency Information Collection 
Activities; Renewal of an Approved Information Collection: Safe Driver 
Apprenticeship Pilot Program, Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration, U.S. Department of Transportation, 87 FR 41164 (July 
11, 2022).
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    ATA, in conjunction with the U.S. Department of Labor (USDOL), has 
done the work necessary to become a RAP sponsor and, as such, can help 
our member motor carriers gain eligibility to participate in SDAP. That 
said, our strong preference is for USDOT to implement the program as 
Congress prescribed. The SDAP is critical to ATA's workforce 
development efforts because the data it generates will bolster our 
calls to eliminate the regulatory barrier preventing safe and qualified 
drivers from participating in interstate commerce. Given the importance 
of this program as a potential supply chain solution, we urge the 
Committee to conduct rigorous oversight of its implementation.
Protect Independent Contractors
    In addition to creating pathways for the next generation of 
drivers, ATA is also committed to protecting the individuals who choose 
to become independent contractors (ICs) in the trucking industry. 
Unfortunately, the independent contractor business model is under 
sustained attack from some in Congress and government regulators at 
both the federal and State levels. California's AB-5 has wreaked havoc 
on our independent truckers in that state, and many motor carriers have 
been forced to either engage in the wholesale reorganization of their 
business structures or leave California altogether. Independent 
contractors are stuck in the middle and their options are limited, 
expensive, and filled with unnecessary red tape. Litigation on this 
awful law continues, and while we hope for a good outcome, significant 
damage has already been done.
    At the federal level, a whole host of agencies--including the 
National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Trade Commission, the 
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and the U.S. Department of 
Labor--are engaged in activities intended to undermine the independent 
contractor business model. The Wage and Hour Division of the U.S. 
Department of Labor published a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 
that, if finalized, would create significant safety issues for both our 
truckers and the motoring public.\23\ Unlike the rule currently in 
effect, the NPRM would create a morass of additional factors to be 
considered when determining whether an individual is an employee or an 
independent contractor. In particular, the proposed control provision--
control either exercised or unexercised, directly or indirectly, over 
things like workplace health and safety--will disincentivize efforts to 
improve health and safety, increase environmental protections, and 
ensure compliance with other legal obligations in all industries. The 
proposed control provision will have an especially harmful effect on 
trucking. Indeed, virtually every motor carrier in our industry has 
contractual provisions with their ICs requiring adherence to the law, 
including health and safety, environmental, and taxation standards.
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    \23\ Employee or Independent Contractor Classification Under the 
Fair Labor Standards Act, Wage and Hour Division, U.S. Department of 
Labor, 87 FR 62218 (October 13, 2022).
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    If ICs are prohibited from operating as ICs because the motor 
carriers with which they contract require ICs to follow the law and 
doing so transmutes those ICs into employees, then many hard-working 
entrepreneurs will suffer. The NPRM thus contains a perverse incentive 
to reduce or eliminate requirements that benefit everyone. As such, the 
NPRM poses a direct risk to health and safety, the environment, and tax 
responsibilities, among other things, and directly or indirectly 
contravenes congressional actions and several other agencies' 
requirements at the federal, state, and/or local levels.
    The trucking industry has been utilizing independent contractors 
since the inception of interstate trucking, and court decisions over 
the last 90 years have continually reaffirmed the legitimate role that 
ICs play in the economy. Employers in our industry are also doing the 
right thing by adhering to applicable workplace safety requirements and 
including compliance monitoring--in many instances pursuant to a 
mandate from USDOT--in their contractual relationships. Some even go 
beyond what is required by law to make workplaces safer by providing 
training or equipment as part of their subcontracting arrangements with 
smaller motor carriers or independent contractors. Motor carriers often 
take this approach for environmental stewardship or to comply with 
other legal mandates. This is good corporate citizenship, something to 
reward rather than turn into a liability by using it as evidence of 
control for classification purposes.
    ATA led a national coalition to convey these and other points to 
USDOL during the comment period on this NPRM. Our affiliated state 
organizations provided numerous examples of real-life situations that 
would be negatively affected by the NPRM. We are hopeful that USDOL 
will recognize the harm that its NPRM would cause if finalized, but if 
they do not, then we may need to take additional actions to protect the 
health and safety of our members' employees, independent contractors, 
and the public. We hope Congress will echo those concerns with the 
USDOL. While this matter is primarily under the jurisdiction of the 
Committee on Education and the Workforce, your attention to it is 
warranted as well due to the negative impacts on the trucking industry 
and the supply chain it supports.
    Furthermore, the USDOL proposal would revoke the freedoms of 
working Americans to choose occupations and economic frameworks suited 
to their needs and ambitions. Americans choose to work as ICs because 
of the economic opportunity it provides and the empowerment to select 
the conditions (e.g., hours and routes) that align with their 
lifestyles. Many of ATA's larger member companies today began as one 
independent contractor with a truck. Accordingly, the Americans who 
choose to become ICs in trucking should be respected and supported in 
their endeavors, not driven out of business because of the 
authoritarian view that employee status is better for them.
    The IC model in trucking has also been a source of empowerment for 
women, minorities, and immigrants seeking to become entrepreneurs. One 
of ATA's Road Team Captains \24\ put several kids through college while 
working as an independent contractor for one of our motor carrier 
members. At the driver level, the trucking industry is more diverse 
than the vast majority of industries in terms of ethnic representation. 
In many parts of the country, there are substantial concentrations of 
ICs performing vital supply chain services--Sikh drivers in northern 
California, Somali drivers in Minnesota, etc. They are as much a part 
of the trucking industry and supply chain as every employee truck 
driver, and their choices should be respected.
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    \24\ America's Road Team is a national public outreach program led 
by a small group of professional truck drivers who share superior 
driving skills, remarkable safety records and a strong desire to spread 
the word about safety on the highway.
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A Safe and Qualified Trucking Workforce
    Safe and qualified are the operative words with regard to an 
expanded workforce. As such, this Committee must ensure that efforts to 
exempt training requirements for new drivers are rejected, and that 
efforts to better ensure a safe and qualified workforce are supported. 
ATA has long supported the Entry Level Driver Training (ELDT) rule, 
published in 2016 and implemented in January 2022.\25\ Ensuring that 
entry-level drivers receive appropriate instruction from a consistent, 
industry-wide curriculum is paramount to improving safety on our 
nation's highways. While most of the trucking industry has embraced 
ELDT, ATA is discouraged by recent legislative efforts that attempted 
to exempt certain individuals from this standardized training 
curriculum. Rampant misinformation online prompted a belief that small 
businesses and other entities can no longer train their employees ``in-
house,'' and that ELDT now requires individuals to pay thousands of 
dollars in tuition for truck driver training schools. While truck 
driver training schools are a good option for compliance with ELDT, the 
regulations do not prohibit motor carriers of any size from continuing 
the in-house training programs they have offered for years. Carriers 
can complete the self-certification process to be listed on the FMCSA's 
Training Provider Registry and continue training as they always have.
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    Safe and qualified truck drivers are the trucking industry's 
greatest asset. Conversely, there is no room on America's roads for 
drivers operating under the influence of a controlled substance. 
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 
(NHTSA), drug prevalence is on the rise among all drivers, and 
unfortunately truck drivers are not immune to this trend. ATA believes, 
and the scientific community generally agrees, that hair testing is a 
proven safety tool for detecting illegal drug use, but the U.S. 
Department of Transportation does not accept hair tests as an 
alternative to urinalysis. Furthermore, motor carriers are prohibited 
from reporting positive hair tests to the Drug and Alcohol 
Clearinghouse. Truck drivers who have tested positive on a hair test 
are able to escape accountability and sidestep the rigorous corrective 
actions that are otherwise required of individuals who are reported to 
the Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. There is nothing to prevent drivers 
who test positive on a hair test from operating a truck on our nation's 
highways today. Federal acceptance of hair testing as an independent, 
alternative testing method would allow employers to use this testing 
method to identify a greater number of safety-sensitive employees who 
violate federal drug testing regulations and keep these unsafe drivers 
off the road, and get them help as well.
            In Pursuit of Fairness and Transparency at Ports
    The extraordinary volumes of freight that challenged our maritime 
ports in the past three years exposed competition and infrastructure 
issues that have bedeviled America's intermodal motor carriers for 
years. Unfair and illegal treatment of truckers and other port users by 
foreign-owned ocean carriers and marine terminal operators was 
exacerbated by the historic inflow of freight. Agricultural exports 
were left on docks to rot, and bottlenecks led to enormous delays in 
the delivery of imported goods. Passage of the Ocean Shipping Reform 
Act last year, the first major rewrite of laws governing port practices 
in decades, will complement the major investments in IIJA for 
intermodal port connectors and projects of national economic 
significance, and ensure that American port users are treated fairly so 
that import and export goods can move more efficiently through our port 
facilities. With a level economic playing field in place, port 
facilities can then play an important and visible role in making our 
supply chains more sustainable.
Implementing Ocean Shipping Reforms
    The passage of the Ocean Shipping Reform Act (OSRA) last summer 
with strong bipartisan support was a major step in the right direction. 
ATA thanks Rep. Garamendi, Rep. Johnson, and the other members of this 
Committee for their strong leadership in drafting this legislation and 
generating the widespread Congressional support that enabled such a 
substantive piece of legislation to pass on the suspension calendar.
    OSRA will bring greater fairness and transparency to the 
relationships between ocean carriers, marine terminal operators, motor 
carriers, and shippers. The legislation also equips the Federal 
Maritime Commission with additional tools to ensure that ocean carriers 
are meeting their obligations under the law. ATA would like to 
recognize the Commission for the work they have done to meet the 
implementation deadlines outlined in the legislation and for the 
thoughtful approach they have taken in their regulatory proposals. The 
Commission's actions thus far have focused on increasing transparency 
between trading partners; for example, the Commission proposed that 
ocean carriers send detention and demurrage bills only to the person 
that has contracted for ocean carriage rather than to motor carriers. 
This will create significant incentives for all parties to provide 
accurate invoices and resolve any disputes that arise quickly and 
fairly. This is the kind of transparency that has long been lacking 
within the intermodal supply chain, and a final rule with these 
provisions would represent a strong step toward greater cooperation and 
efficiency among intermodal partners. We look forward to working with 
this Committee, Congress, and the Commission as the OSRA implementation 
process continues.
Addressing Chassis Supply Challenges
    The last few months have seen significant reductions in freight 
volume coming into the nation's ports, which has alleviated many of the 
backups and bottlenecks that we saw last year. However, that does not 
mean that the root causes of these issues have disappeared. The 
insufficient supply of intermodal chassis needed to move containers was 
one of the largest contributing factors to the bottlenecks, yet the 
chassis provisioning process continues to be a source of considerable 
frustration for motor carriers both at the ports and at inland 
railheads. While OSRA does contain requirements to study this issue, we 
believe there are additional changes in this area that would 
significantly increase efficiency and reduce costs.
    Motor carriers are often denied the ability to choose their chassis 
provider or use their own chassis due to ocean carrier interference in 
the marketplace. Provisions such as ``box rules'' permit ocean carriers 
to dictate which chassis provider must be used to move their 
containers. These requirements result in artificial limitations on 
chassis availability, which significantly impacts efficiency and adds 
unnecessary costs for motor carriers, as well as importers and 
exporters. ATA is currently litigating this issue before the FMC, in an 
attempt to resolve this problem without Congressional intervention. 
However, we encourage the Committee to consider legislation that would 
allow motor carriers to choose their chassis provider; increasing 
transparency and efficiency in chassis provisioning is critical to 
addressing some of the underlying supply problems that enflamed port 
operations over the last few years.
Implementing Port Sustainability Initiatives
    Many states with significant maritime port activity are pursuing 
ambitious climate goals at those facilities. ATA and our members are 
committed to sound environmental policies but would emphasize that 
meeting the timeframes envisioned in many of these efforts will require 
significant advancements in both technology and infrastructure. Even if 
equipment with advanced environmentally friendly technologies become 
commercially available at the scale these climate goals require, the 
economics of acquiring and deploying that equipment need to be 
considered, and reasonable timetables set, in order to avoid 
destabilizing supply chains and the overall economy.
    While the IIJA and Inflation Reduction Act contain considerable 
federal funding to assist ports in this process, the changes that will 
be required seem certain to bring with them the potential for 
substantial disruption. ATA urges this Committee to use its oversight 
authority to balance the focus on improving port efficiency and meeting 
environmental targets with the economic realities facing trucking and 
other supply chain providers who will be tasked with meeting those 
ambitious goals.
    In December of 2022, 99.87% of visits to the Port of New York/New 
Jersey were by diesel-powered trucks,\26\ while at the Port of Los 
Angeles, 93% of container moves and 95% of trucks are powered by diesel 
fuel with virtually all of the remaining portion powered by natural 
gas. At the beginning of this year, California prohibited the use of 
truck engines manufactured prior to 2010 which accounted for 15% of all 
containers moves at the Port of Los Angeles in November.\27\ (The 
figure for New York/New Jersey is even higher at 30.48%.\28\) Thus far, 
the reduction in freight levels has meant that this requirement has not 
impacted the overall supply chain. However, the California Air 
Resources Board is considering a regulation phasing out older trucks 
each year and ultimately allowing only zero emission trucks at the 
ports by 2035.\29\ This would mean all drayage trucking companies would 
need to replace their fleets entirely. While ATA has expressed our 
significant concerns regarding this potential regulation and similar 
efforts in other locations, there is little question that as new 
technologies become available, trucking companies will need to make 
substantial upgrades in their equipment at considerable cost in the 
years to come. As we look more closely at the fleets serving the 
nation's ports, we see that at ports as in most of the trucking 
industry, smaller companies comprise a significant portion of the 
overall trucking fleet. Truck statistics from the Port of Los Angeles 
show that 67% of fleets registered to work at the port have less than 
20 trucks and these companies account for more than 27% of container 
moves.\30\ Ensuring that trucking companies, especially smaller 
businesses, can make any required technological transition is critical 
to the ability of the trucking industry to meet the needs of our 
customers at the ports.
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    \26\ PortTruckPass Comprehensive Report. Port Authority of New York 
and New Jersey, December 2022.
    \27\ Clean Truck Program (CTP)--Gate Move Analysis. Port of Los 
Angeles, December 2022. Available online at: https://
kentico.portoflosangeles.org/getmedia/452bad8c-4e16-490f-bab6-
155b061866bb/POLA-Monthly-Gate-Move-Analysis (accessed January 19, 
2023).
    \28\ PortTruckPass Comprehensive Report. Port Authority of New York 
and New Jersey, December 2022.
    \29\ California Air Resources Board Proposed Advanced Clean Fleets 
Regulation. Available online at: https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/rulemaking/
2022/acf2022
    \30\ Clean Truck Program (CTP)--Gate Move Analysis. Port of Los 
Angeles, December 2022. Available online at: https://
kentico.portoflosangeles.org/getmedia/452bad8c-4e16-490f-bab6-
155b061866bb/POLA-Monthly-Gate-Move-Analysis (accessed January 19, 
2023).
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    There is a critical role for Congress to play in continuing to 
ensure that the laws governing maritime freight ensure fairness as well 
as to help increase efficiency at ports and ensure that they have the 
resources they need to upgrade their facilities to meet future 
technology requirements. The Ocean Shipping Reform Act brought long-
needed change, but the work is not done, and we look forward to working 
with the Committee to draft and enact additional legislation to ensure 
that foreign-owned ocean carriers treat all participants in the supply 
chain fairly. The IIJA provides significant resources to improve port 
operations and we are optimistic that this important funding will be 
used to implement new technologies to streamline operations as well as 
make the critical infrastructure improvements that will lead to more 
efficient operations. Together, we hope these changes will help us 
avoid the types of bottlenecks that we saw over the last two years when 
higher volumes return to the supply chain.
         In Pursuit of Achievable Energy and Emissions Policies
    The trucking industry has an admirable story to tell about our 
ongoing emissions reductions and sustainability initiatives and looks 
forward to working with Congress and regulatory agencies to set 
ambitious, achievable environmental goals. Our industry has made major 
steps over the past forty years to reduce our emissions even as the 
trucking industry has grown to transport more than 70% of all freight 
in the United States. One of the primary ways our industry has achieved 
these tremendous emission reductions is through incredible advancements 
in engines and emission control systems that make today's trucks 
significantly cleaner than the past. A new truck today emits 99% fewer 
particulate matter emissions than one in 1985, and 99% fewer nitrogen 
oxide (NOx) emissions than one in 1975. By comparison, 60 trucks today 
emit the same pollution as a single truck manufactured in 1988.
    Our industry is unwaveringly committed to environmental 
sustainability. We have a long history of working with the U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to reduce emissions and improve 
transportation efficiency through programs like the Cleaner Trucks 
Initiative and the voluntary SmartWay program. As a result of these 
efforts, participating fleets have saved billions of dollars in fuel 
costs, reduced oil consumption, and eliminated millions of tons of air 
pollutants. EPA SmartWay estimates that the program has helped its 
partners save 357 million barrels of oil since 2004.\31\ If one barrel 
of oil produces 11 to 12 gallons of diesel fuel,\32\ that means 
trucking companies participating in the SmartWay program have saved 
more than 4 billion gallons of fuel--over $19 billion at current 
prices--in the last eighteen years.
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    \31\ SmartWay Program Successes, U.S. EPA, Available online at: 
https://www.epa.gov/smartway/smartway-program-successes.
    \32\ Frequently Asked Questions, U.S. EIA, Available online at: 
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=327&t=10
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    In 2006, our industry began phasing out harmful sulfur in diesel 
fuel, and practically eliminated sulfur oxide emissions. ATA championed 
two separate EPA and NHTSA regulations in 2011 and 2016, establishing 
the first-ever truck engine, vehicle, and trailer greenhouse gas (GHG) 
emission and fuel consumption standards--known as Phase 1 and 2, 
respectively. In total, between 2014 and 2027, the combined Phase 1 and 
2 GHG standards stand to cut CO2 emissions by 1.37 billion metric tons, 
saving vehicle owners and operators $220 billion in fuel costs and 
reducing oil consumption by up to 2.5 billion barrels of oil over the 
lifetime of the vehicles sold under the program.
    The trucking industry supports cleaner transportation technologies 
and fuels to protect our environment and diverse communities. As a 
society, we rely on trucks in our daily lives to receive everything 
from groceries, to mail, to packages--as we say in the industry, ``if 
you got it, a truck brought it.'' Fleets don't make trucks--they are 
consumers that buy trucks; however, it is trucking companies that buy 
technologies that ultimately dictate the success or failure of any 
emission regulation or policy agenda. Trucks are not restricted by 
geography. They cross city, county, state, and international borders on 
a routine basis. It is for this reason that ATA supports national 
harmonized standards for the trucking industry.
    As Congress and the Administration consider laws and regulations to 
meet ambitious environmental goals, ATA will evaluate proposals to 
determine whether they improve trucking's emissions profile, are 
technology neutral, significantly increase the cost of maintenance, are 
thoroughly tested, and are widely available to all segments of the 
industry. Trucking will work with our partners in every mode of the 
supply chain, the supplier community, and regulators to develop and 
deploy technologies that can achieve major improvements in 
sustainability. To accomplish those improvements, we need to ensure 
that the fuels that currently power our nation's supply chains are 
affordable for trucking fleets of all sizes, that the costs of clean 
heavy-duty vehicles do not serve as financial barriers to entry, and 
that national standards are put in place for key pollutants.
Powering the Future of Transportation Affordably
    While diesel remains the key fuel source for our industry, new 
technologies that capture pollutants from diesel fuel have enabled the 
trucking industry to significantly reduce its emissions. However, 
investments in these new technologies are more challenging because of 
increasingly volatile fuel prices, which create existential challenges 
for fleets of all sizes. According to the American Transportation 
Research Institute's (ATRI) annual survey of the industry, fuel is the 
second-highest operating cost for trucking and accounts for 22% of the 
motor carriers' average marginal costs.\33\ The burden of high, 
volatile energy costs falls hardest on small fleets. These smaller 
trucking companies, which are typically family-owned, struggle to 
operate in a competitive business environment when fuel prices and 
regulatory demands for cleaner equipment force those operating costs 
upward.
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    \33\ An Analysis of the Operational Costs of Trucking: 2022 Update, 
American Transportation Research Institute, August 2022.
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    Surges in diesel prices hit the trucking industry hard and can cost 
the industry an additional tens of billions of dollars, which increases 
prices for American families and makes it more difficult for the 
industry to invest in new equipment and technology. In 2019, U.S. 
trucks consumed 45.6 billion gallons of distillate fuel--36.5 billion 
gallons of which were diesel fuel.\34\ The trucking industry's diesel 
fuel bill in 2019 was $112 billion when prices were $3.00/gallon. 
However, diesel prices rose throughout 2022, reaching a high of $5.81/
gallon--90% higher than 2019 average prices. This would result in an 
annual diesel fuel bill exceeding $200 billion for the American 
trucking industry, nearly a $100 billion per year increase.
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    \34\ ATA Economics and Industry Data. American Trucking 
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    To address these critical fuel supply issues, ATA supports 
immediate action to increase domestic production of oil and gas. This 
can be achieved by expediting oil and gas permitting and removing 
regulatory barriers that were put in place in 2021. Additionally, 
offshore oil and gas lease sales should be considered in the current 
production areas of the Central and Western Gulf, as these can be 
brought online in a few short years and would send a powerful signal to 
world oil markets. Financial restrictions on oil and gas investments 
should also be removed to encourage exploration and development in an 
environmentally responsible way. Further, Congress should restore 
parity in tax incentives for renewable diesel and renewable natural gas 
with Sustainable Aviation Fuel, which benefitted from higher tax 
incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act and put trucking at a 
competitive disadvantage for renewable fuels with other modes of 
transportation.
Availability of New Clean Equipment and Supporting Infrastructure
    Mandates for emissions reduction and decarbonization will require 
the widespread deployment of new, cleaner, or alternative fuel vehicles 
that are significantly more expensive, and which are not yet widely 
available. The antiquated Federal Excise Tax (FET) on heavy-duty 
vehicles, created by Congress to fund America's participation in World 
War I, adds an additional 12 percent to the cost of every new truck. If 
Congress is serious about reducing emissions from trucking and the 
supply chain, then the first step is to remove this onerous tax and 
immediately make new, clean equipment more affordable.
    As Congress considers a path towards transportation electrification 
and conducts oversight of IIJA investments in EV charging and 
alternative fuel infrastructure, it is essential that existing fuel 
providers be prioritized. There is a symbiotic relationship that exists 
between trucking and our fuel providers. The energy transition can only 
work for trucking if it works for our fuel providers. It is essential 
that these IIJA alternative fuel grant dollars are distributed to 
entities that are attuned and responsive to the trucking industry's 
evolving needs.
    The reality for many of these new technologies is that they are not 
yet commercially mature, and the deployment of equipment and supporting 
infrastructure will take time and money. Unrealistic mandates that are 
impossible for businesses to achieve may serve political purposes, but 
not practical ones. The transition to battery electric and zero 
emission vehicles can only occur after we make massive improvements to 
the national energy grid, install sufficient charging and fueling 
infrastructure nationwide, and increase the availability of affordable 
alternative fuel power units. Without all those elements, any mandate 
is destined to increase costs for supply chains, disrupt commerce, and 
fail to achieve emissions reduction goals.
    For example, take battery electric vehicles--mandated by California 
and other states as the go-to replacement for internal combustion 
engine vehicles. A recent study from the American Transportation 
Research Institute (ATRI) raises significant doubts about the grid's 
ability to handle a transition to battery electric trucks. 
Electrification of the U.S. vehicle fleet would consume 40.3% of the 
current total electricity demand when our aging grid can hardly sustain 
its current energy needs.\35\ In California where rolling blackouts are 
common, utilities would need to generate an additional 57% of their 
current total electricity output to support an electric vehicle 
fleet.\36\
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    \35\ Charging Infrastructure Challenges for the U.S. Electric 
Vehicle Fleet, American Transportation Research Institute, December 
2022.
    \36\ Ibid.
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    We also know the United States' minerals supply chains are not 
prepared for an abrupt transition to battery electric technology. To 
produce the lithium-ion batteries that would power the hundreds of 
thousands of long-haul power units needed to meet the Administration's 
emissions goals, we need tens of millions of tons of cobalt, graphite, 
lithium, and nickel, and that amount could take as long as 35 years to 
acquire given current levels of global production.\37\ Expanding that 
capacity raises enormous ethical questions and costs related to both 
developing nations' exploitive child labor policies and the carbon 
reduction problem that battery production intends to resolve.
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    To provide a proper accounting, we need a holistic view--from 
``well to wheel''--that includes the total cost of carbon output 
through its lifecycle, from extraction, production, and transportation 
of the mined and refined product to ultimate fuel use. In the case of 
lithium mining, production creates considerably more CO2 and pollution 
than does the manufacturing of internal combustion engine materials 
alone. In some operations, a minimum of one million gallons of water 
are necessary to produce a single pound of lithium.\38\
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    Fleets face several practical challenges when acquiring battery 
electric technology. Few public fast charging stations currently have 
the space and infrastructure needed to accommodate battery electric 
heavy-duty vehicles, and building more stations could exacerbate the 
existing shortage of safe commercial truck parking. Battery electric 
truck models currently sell for significantly higher costs than do 
typical diesel trucks, and the number of models that are commercially 
available is limited to a small selection. Long-haul heavy trucks with 
significantly heavier batteries suffer from limited range and reduced 
payload capacity. And while some of these challenges can be mitigated 
with longer payback periods or the installation of private or semi-
private charging facilities, we know this technology will require 
unprecedented advancements in battery range, capacity, and power grid 
integration to become a truly viable option for most operators.
    Interestingly, the Biden Administration's multiagency U.S. National 
Blueprint for Transportation Decarbonization identifies battery 
electric technology as a ``limited long-term opportunity'' in the long-
haul segment and points out better-positioned opportunities with 
hydrogen and sustainable liquid fuels.\39\ These alternatives offer 
advantages in energy density, comparable refueling times with diesel 
fuel, and in the case of sustainable liquid fuels like biodiesel and 
renewable diesel, compatibility with many current internal combustion 
engine configurations. Despite the promising role of these liquid fuels 
in achieving emissions goals, the last Congress failed to level the 
playing field between Sustainable Aviation Fuels and other alternative 
renewable fuels when it passed the Inflation Reduction Act last year. 
ATA strongly encourages Congress to take action to lower the costs of 
new, clean equipment for trucking and, as mentioned before, restore 
parity in tax incentives for clean, renewable, alternative fuels to 
power future generations of clean trucks.
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    \39\ The U.S. National Blueprint for Transportation 
Decarbonization, page 50, U.S. Department of Transportation, January 
2023.
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Harmonizing Federal and State Emissions Requirements
    ATA supports emissions regulations that are ambitious yet 
achievable. However, proposals by California and other states would 
create a patchwork of truck engine and fleet sales standards that are 
unworkable for trucking. National goals for emissions reductions and 
environmental sustainability need to be facilitated by achievable 
national standards.
    The next round of GHG emission regulations will address a national 
zero-emission vehicle (ZEV) pathway. The President's August 2021 
Executive Order requires EPA to complete a Phase 3 Rule by the Summer 
of 2024. With initial discussions already underway, new stringent 
carbon metrics for new heavy-duty vehicles will take effect beginning 
in 2030. The trucking industry supports the pursuit of one national ZEV 
plan that is reasonable, logical, affordable, and the least-disruptive 
to the nation's supply chains; establishing an unworkable piecemeal 
approach to address the nationwide impacts of climate change would 
impose chaos on trucking operations, supply chains, and the economy.
    No single state will move the national needle on climate change, 
but a 50-state approach may. All 50 states in our country together face 
compelling and extraordinary conditions posed by global warming. The 
country as a whole may meet CAA Section 209(b)(1)(B) compelling and 
extraordinary conditions insofar as climate change is concerned, but 
such waiver definition is better applied to the whole of the country. 
This matter is not defined as ``global warming'' by chance, and 
opportunities to address potential solutions are best championed by 
national thought leaders.
    As purchasers of new trucks and equipment and as an integral link 
in the American supply chain, trucking is keenly aware of the costs of 
new requirements and their impacts on energy supplies and supply 
chains. Projecting forward, fleets are apprehensive about product 
unavailability, infrastructure delays, and high upfront equipment and 
supply costs that will undoubtedly eat into their narrow profit 
margins. That is why our members support one national, low-NOx 
standard; a patchwork of state regulations is unworkable for an 
industry that crosses state lines daily.
    For example, the implementation of a unique NOx program in 
California (which may be expanded to some opt-in states under Section 
177 of the Clean Air Act) will put at least two different regulatory 
programs in play nationwide, which is unworkable and problematic for 
interstate freight transportation. Truck manufacturers would not only 
face the prospect of two different product lines, but also two 
different sets of engine certification requirements and two different 
review and approval processes for these products. This will undoubtedly 
add to the already high cost of bringing new engines to market and 
create duplication in the administrative approval process. Truck fleets 
purchasing new equipment will be forced to make difficult decisions on 
which product line and price point fits their operational needs to meet 
customer demands.
    ATA does not define ``harmonization'' as federal standards 
mirroring those of a single state, such as California. California has 
unique air quality issues given its large population and unique 
geographical features. Their regulations should not automatically 
become the template for establishing the next national low-NOx 
standard. Our definition of ``harmonization'' is the creation of one 
federal standard that reduces NOx emissions nationwide, is 
technologically and economically achievable, and does not impede 
trucking operations or purchase plans across the country. If one 
national standard across the country is not established, fleets will 
become creative with how, where, and when they purchase equipment to 
remain compliant. For example, while States such as California will not 
allow you to register new trucks purchased outside the State that do 
not meet the California Air Resources Board's (CARB's) low-NOx and 
warranty requirements, such vehicles can be purchased and operated 
outside the State and then be registered in California once their 
odometers hit 7,500 miles. Other states may have similar registration 
provisions.
    Such creativity will be continually challenged by additional 
regulations, which will in turn needlessly complicate purchasing 
decisions for our nation's trucking fleets. As an example, in addition 
to the NOx program, California is moving forward with its Advanced 
Clean Trucks (ACT) Rule. The intent of the ACT Rule is to expedite in-
state decarbonization efforts within the freight sector. This 
regulation requires manufacturers who certify Class 2b-8 chassis or 
complete vehicles with combustion engines to sell zero-emission trucks 
as an increasing percentage of their annual California sales from 2024 
to 2035 and beyond. By 2035, zero-emission truck/chassis sales would 
need to be 55 percent of Class 2b-3 truck sales, 75 percent of Class 4-
8 straight truck sales, and 40 percent of truck tractor sales. CARB's 
companion Advanced Clean Fleets (ACF) Rule will direct large fleets 
operating in-state to purchase increasing percentages of ZEVs beginning 
as early as 2024. Layering these blanket requirements on a state-by-
state basis unnecessarily complicates business decisions for every 
company in the trucking industry, but especially for medium and small 
family-owned fleets.
    While California has its unique topography and associated air 
quality issues, it is imperative that the state and EPA find common 
ground in plotting a path forward. Putting differences aside, ATA 
encourages EPA and CARB to ultimately unify their approaches. Fleets 
have choices and if one harmonized national standard cannot be 
achieved, fleets may be forced to change their business models and 
purchasing decisions. As Congress considers long-term legislation to 
combat climate change, and conducts oversight of federal agencies, ATA 
strongly encourages the development of clear, achievable, national 
goals.
                             In Conclusion
    I am grateful for the opportunity to testify before you today on 
behalf of the American Trucking Associations and the 8 million people 
in trucking related jobs who power our nation's supply chains and keep 
the wheels of the economy turning. For the Committee to focus its first 
hearing on the status of our supply chains is encouraging; it is 
imperative that we as a nation continue to be mindful of the importance 
of safe and efficient freight transportation and its impact on the 
wellbeing of our nation. Trucking is the dynamic linchpin of the U.S. 
economy, and as I have emphasized in my testimony, the industry can 
only be as efficient as the roads and bridges upon which we operate.
    Looking forward, Congress should seize opportunities to enhance the 
efficiency and resiliency of the supply chain, and that must involve 
smart oversight of IIJA implementation, as well as efforts to empower 
the next generation of safe and qualified transportation workers. By 
resolving key supply chain bottlenecks, making port operations fairer 
and more efficient, and taking meaningful steps towards environmental 
sustainability, we can grow our economy and ensure American 
competitiveness for generations to come. I look forward to working with 
Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and the other Members of the 
Committee to support efforts to meet those challenges. Thank you.

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you very much.
    We now turn to Ian Jefferies, who is the president and 
chief executive officer of the Association of American 
Railroads. Thanks for being here, Ian.

   TESTIMONY OF IAN JEFFERIES, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
           OFFICER, ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN RAILROADS

    Mr. Jefferies. Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, 
members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to be 
here today representing America's freight railroads. And thank 
you also to my colleagues and friends at the table today who 
are all critical to the integrated supply chain. Collectively, 
we work together to move the goods the Nation relies on to grow 
and thrive.
    Taking a moment to reflect, railroads were a prominent part 
of the national discourse over the past year. From untangling 
pandemic-related supply chain challenges to a historic 
collective bargaining round that culminated at the end of the 
year, railroads were in the national spotlight like never 
before. Certainly, this level of exposure has its pros and 
cons, but one core truth was clear: Freight rail is critical to 
the economy.
    To that end, while it is important to reflect on and learn 
from past experiences, it is equally important to focus on the 
here and now with an eye toward the future. And so, I hope you 
take away four things today from my remarks.
    First, safety is at the forefront of everything railroads 
do. Our industry operates a 24/7, 365 outdoor assembly line 
handling a mix of traffic across every terrain imaginable, and 
we do it safely, every day working toward the ultimate goal of 
zero injuries and zero deaths. We have more work to do, and we 
have got to shoulder into it to keep driving towards that end 
game.
    The past decade has been the safest in history for the 
railroads, and we are safer than almost every industrial sector 
you can compare us to. Our employees deserve immense thanks and 
appreciation for their role in safely moving America's freight 
day in and day out. Their commitment is unparalleled. Yes, last 
year's bargaining round was challenging, yet we are glad to see 
the terms of the agreement go into effect, including historic 
pay increases, the highest in five decades; maintenance of 
best-in-class healthcare; and a path to further improve quality 
of life and work-life balance issues that remain in our 
industry.
    Know this: Railroads continue to provide some of the 
highest compensated jobs with the best benefits of any industry 
in the country. And yet, we recognize that employee relations 
is a never-ending process. We are committed to modernizing jobs 
to reflect evolving employee values and priorities and, in 
turn, building an appropriately staffed and more resilient 
railroad to not only serve today's demand, but the demand that 
will come in the future. And this is happening on-property as 
we sit here today.
    Hiring continues throughout our industry at a time when we 
read about countless layoffs in industries every morning in the 
paper. Railroads continue to hire, with train and engine 
workers up nearly 10 percent in the past 12 months, and 
overarching rail employment level is up just over 6 percent as 
well.
    Third, our investments, not only in our employees but in 
our top-rated infrastructure, is creating a network built to 
serve customers today and into the future. Each year, railroads 
invest billions of their own funds to maintain and expand their 
infrastructure. The result: The highest rated infrastructure in 
the country, according to the American Society of Civil 
Engineers.
    For context, railroads invested an average of $24 billion 
annually of their own funds over the past 15 years. That is $1 
billion more than the investments Congress made in this year's 
historic level of spending in rail and multimodal programs as 
part of the IIJA and the omnibus combined. So, if the IIJA's 
investments are historic, I guess railroads make history every 
year with their investments.
    Last, in no small part because of these factors I have 
outlined, service is improving. Over the past year, we 
certainly had service challenges, and many of our customers 
didn't receive service that they deserve and expect. And so, we 
have kept a shoulder into that, working hard, and the results 
are coming. Velocity, terminal dwell, trip plan compliance, 
other measurements, other metrics are improving across the 
board, and even our regulator, the STB, recognizes that as 
well. Still more work to do, and we are continuing to drive 
those processes forward.
    Now turning to matters of direct import today. AAR and its 
members absolutely supported the infrastructure bill. Of 
course, no bill is perfect, as Chris said. And certainly we had 
issues with some of the pay-fors. We would like to get back to 
a user pay structure with the highway system, but it had 
numerous positives. Specifically, the creation of a 
multibillion-dollar grade crossing elimination initiative will 
pay dividends into the future, reducing accidents, limiting 
motorist delay, and increasing freight fluidity.
    And while we proudly fund our own infrastructure, we will 
work diligently with our public partners in States and towns 
across America so that they can leverage the CRISI program, 
Mega program, INFRA program and other grant programs out there.
    Looking at agency oversight, we continue to have concerns 
about the Federal Railroad Administration's view on technology 
and technological deployment. We need a champion, we need a 
partner about getting new technology that is going to drive 
safety to its next levels, not one that is going to hold us 
back. And so, we can get into that further, but I see my time 
is running out. And thank you for holding this today, and I 
look forward to the discussion.
    [Mr. Jefferies' prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Ian Jefferies, President and Chief Executive 
               Officer, Association of American Railroads
    On behalf of the members of the Association of American Railroads 
(AAR), thank you for the opportunity to testify today. AAR members 
account for the vast majority of North America's freight rail mileage, 
employees, revenue, and volumes as well as Amtrak and some passenger 
rail.
    U.S. freight railroads operate a network spanning more than 136,000 
miles and serve every industrial, wholesale, retail, agricultural, and 
mining-based sector of our economy. Together with their Canadian and 
Mexican counterparts, U.S. railroads form the world's best freight rail 
system (Figure 1).
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    In this testimony, I will provide general background on railroads; 
discuss steps railroads have taken to improve service over the past 
year; provide an overview of rail labor issues; and discuss what 
policymakers can do to maintain a regulatory and legislative framework 
conducive to moving freight by rail.
        Freight Railroads Offer Enormous Benefits to Our Nation
    America's freight railroads are proud of the tremendous role they 
play in the U.S. economy. The operations and capital investments of 
America's major freight railroads support a million or more jobs and 
several hundred billion dollars in nationwide economic activity, wages, 
and taxes.
    Moving freight by rail meaningfully reduces greenhouse gas 
emissions. In 2021, U.S. freight railroads moved a ton of freight an 
average of nearly 500 miles per gallon of fuel, making railroads three 
to four times more fuel efficient than trucks. Safety is the foundation 
of everything the railroads do, and the past decade has been the safest 
in rail history. The train accident rate in 2021 was down 30 percent 
from 2000; the employee injury rate was down 47 percent; and the grade 
crossing collision rate was down 23 percent.

                        Railroad Accident Rates:
                                2000-2021
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Total accidents                           -30%
  Collisions                              -50%
  Derailments                             -35%
  Other                                   -9%
Employee injuries                         -47%
Grade crossings                           -23%
Hazmat incidents \\               -60%
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 Through 2020. Source: FRA, AAR

                                Figure 2

    Unlike trucks, barges, and airlines, America's privately-owned 
freight railroads operate almost exclusively on infrastructure they 
own, build, maintain, and pay for themselves. From 1980 to 2022, 
freight railroads spent more than $800 billion of their own funds, not 
government funds, on capital expenditures and maintenance expenses. 
That's more than 40 cents out of every revenue dollar invested right 
back into a rail network that keeps America's economy moving.
    The affordability of freight rail saves rail customers billions of 
dollars each year; enhances the global competitiveness of U.S. 
products; and helps American consumers. Average rail rates (measured by 
inflation-adjusted revenue per ton-mile) were 44 percent lower in 2021 
than in 1981. Changes in rail rates over time compare favorably to 
changes in the prices of things we buy every day (Figure 3).

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             Rail Customers Deserve Safe, Reliable Service
    Railroads know rail service over the past year has not been what 
their customers want or deserve and are fully committed to restoring 
service to a consistently high level.
Hiring and Retaining a Robust Rail Workforce
    Over the past two years, railroads, along with virtually every 
other industry, have found that attracting and retaining enough 
employees to meet their needs has been a major challenge. The pandemic 
turned labor markets upside down. When rail traffic collapsed, 
railroads deployed a long-standing method of temporarily furloughing 
some employees. As the economy recovered faster than anyone expected, 
and demand for rail service surged, far fewer furloughed employees 
chose to return than historical patterns would suggest, leaving 
railroads without sufficient workforce. We now know that furlough 
policies must be carefully reviewed to build more resiliency into the 
system to better ride economic ups and downs.
    To this day, competition for workers remains fierce. In December 
2022, the national unemployment rate was 3.5 percent, matching the 
lowest it's been in 50 years. In many key railroad states, the 
unemployment rate is even lower. The extremely tight labor market means 
railroads' single-biggest service-related challenge is finding and 
keeping employees.
    I'm happy to say, though, that railroads are making progress. Total 
Class I railroad employment in December 2022 was up 6.8 percent over 
January 2022.\1\ Train and engine employment (mostly engineers and 
conductors in locomotive cabs) was up 9.6 percent in December 2022 over 
January 2022. Railroads are taking many concrete steps to recruit new 
employees and continue this progress, including hiring bonuses, 
relocation bonuses for current workers who move to high-need areas, and 
employee referral bonuses. In fact, this month Union Pacific reported 
that last year it received 12,000 employee referrals which led to 1,200 
job offers. Railroads are confident they will continue successfully 
recruiting the next generation of railroad workers to meet the nation's 
rail freight demand.
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least $944 million. The seven U.S. Class I railroads account for 
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Investing in Rail Infrastructure
    America's freight railroads operate overwhelmingly on 
infrastructure they own, build, maintain, and pay for themselves. In 
recent years, railroads invested close to $70 million every day, on 
average, back into the network, making railroads at or near the top 
among all U.S. industries in terms of capital intensity (Figure 4). 
Thanks to this spending, ``crumbling'' might describe some U.S. 
infrastructure, but not freight rail. The American Society of Civil 
Engineers has consistently awarded rail the highest grade of all 
American infrastructure.\2\ U.S. freight rail infrastructure is in 
better overall condition today than ever before.
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    \2\ See American Society of Engineers, 2021 Report Card for 
America's Infrastructure (available at https://
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                Capital Spending as % of Revenue 
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Average all manufacturing                     3.0%
 
Petroleum & coal products                     2.3%
Food                                          2.3%
Machinery                                     2.6%
Motor vehicles & parts                        2.8%
Fabricated metal products                     3.2%
Primary metal products                        3.2%
Wood products                                 3.4%
Plastics & rubber products                    3.8%
Chemicals                                     3.8%
Paper                                         4.3%
Nonmetallic minerals                          4.4%
Computer & electr. products                   5.0%
 
Class I Railroads                             18.4%
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 Avg. 2012-2021. Source: Census Bureau, AAR

                                Figure 4

    Railroads remain firmly committed to investing in and growing their 
operations to improve and expand service, as evidenced by the plans 
announced by many of the railroads to expand capacity:
      BNSF recently announced a 2023 capital investment plan of 
$3.96 billion and will invest more than $1.5 billion in the Barstow 
International Gateway, a new state-of-art integrated rail facility in 
Southern California.
      Union Pacific plans to spend close to $2 billion in 2023 
on maintenance and capital spending and opened a new intermodal 
facility in Oregon in December, which will encourage agricultural 
shippers to bypass the congested I-5 corridor in the Pacific Northwest.
      Norfolk Southern has announced major investments 
including capacity projects in the Chicago-Cincinnati-Jacksonville and 
Atlanta-Birmingham-New Orleans/Mobile corridors.
      CSX began work in late 2021 on a multi-year project to 
enlarge the Howard Street Tunnel that runs beneath Baltimore and clear 
obstructions at 22 other locations between Baltimore and Philadelphia.

    The list goes on. Kansas City Southern, CN, Canadian Pacific--even 
short line systems like Genesee and Wyoming and Watco--continue to 
spend massively, including on new capacity, to improve the safety, 
resiliency, and reliability of their networks.
    Railroads are making these investments because they want to grow 
with their customers through a safe, fluid, and reliable network. These 
investments will improve service now and help railroads and their 
customers better weather service disruptions in the future.
Metrics Show Service is Improving
    Data reported by individual railroads and compiled by the Surface 
Transportation Board (STB) indicate that railroads are making progress 
on a variety of key service metrics. A recent STB report stated that 
railroads are meeting six-month targets for service improvement, with 
key performance indicators trending in a positive direction.
    For example, average train speeds have all been trending higher for 
most railroads over the past nine months. The same holds true for 
manifest trains \3\, coal unit trains \4\, grain unit trains, and 
intermodal trains. Average terminal dwell time \5\ has been falling for 
most railroads and the percentage of rail cars in manifest trains 
delivered within 24 hours of their original arrival estimate has been 
trending higher. Train recrew rates \6\ have been trending down for 
most railroads as well. All these metrics point to a more fluid, more 
efficient system.
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commodities.
    \4\ A unit train is a train carrying just one commodity.
    \5\ Terminal dwell time is the time a railcar sits in a rail yard 
before being switched into an outbound train.
    \6\ Train recrew rates is the percentage of rail train crews who 
had to go off duty before trains completed their runs because their 
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    It's not just STB data that show recent improvement in rail service 
levels. A recent survey of rail shippers by Wolfe Research, a highly 
respected Wall Street investment and advisory firm, found that ``Rail 
service ratings . . . have reached their highest level in our survey in 
the past 10 quarters.'' \7\ The pace of rail service improvement might 
be slower than some rail customers and policymakers would prefer, and 
not every service metric for every railroad has been improving in 
recent months, but the progress railroads have made is unquestionably 
good news and the work to improve service is continuing.
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    \7\ Wolfe Research, ``The State of the Freight--1Q Shipper 
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                        Rail Labor Negotiations
    Railroads are pleased to have concluded the round of national 
collective bargaining with the twelve major rail unions at the end of 
last year. The historic agreements reached in the round were based on 
the recommendations of neutral arbitrators appointed by President Biden 
and were facilitated directly by senior members of his administration. 
These agreements contain a 24 percent wage increase, the largest 
compensation increases seen in the industry in approximately 50 years. 
They also maintain the railroads' platinum-level healthcare plans, 
provide additional paid time off for all represented rail workers, and 
establish a process and timeline for the railroads to work directly 
with the operating craft unions to make additional work rules changes 
this year that will enhance predictability and quality of life for 
those employees who currently have the least predictable schedules. We 
would like to thank Congress for the swift, bi-partisan action to avert 
a shutdown of the nation's rail system.
    The industry and its employees take great pride in the work that 
they do to move the nation's freight and support the U.S. economy. Rail 
jobs are, and always have been, great jobs. The recent national 
agreements will ensure that railroad compensation and benefit levels 
remain near the very top of the American workforce. However, even 
though the bargaining round is behind us, the railroads recognize that 
more can be done to enhance the work-life balance traditionally 
associated with certain types of rail employment. Individual carriers 
are already engaging with the rail unions to discuss steps that can be 
taken to modernize railroad work rules and provide greater flexibility 
for rail employees to structure their personal lives. In this regard, 
the railroads look forward to productive and collaborative discussions 
with the rail unions.
                  Opportunities for the 118th Congress
    The 118th Congress will play a critical role as railroads continue 
to find innovative ways to improve safety, coordinate with state and 
local governments to invest in infrastructure, and work with regulators 
and customers to enhance service.
Supporting Innovation and Technology to Improve Safety
    Safety is the foundation of everything the railroads do, and 
railroads have long applied technological solutions to improve safety, 
enhance performance, and create efficiencies. The industry has made 
major progress in safety over the last few decades. The next great leap 
forward in safety directly relies on the ability of railroads to 
innovate and deploy new technology but achieving the maximum benefit 
from these new technologies requires regulatory flexibility. While 
other Department of Transportation modal agencies are working to 
support greater automation and the safety benefits that accompany such 
technology, the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA)--railroads' prime 
safety regulator--stands alone in its efforts to lock in yesterday's 
regulatory approaches.
    Congress can support the goal of achieving better outcomes through 
new technology by ensuring the FRA becomes increasingly forward-looking 
in how it proposes and promulgates new rules, particularly when 
innovation can improve safety. Identifying specific safety concerns a 
new rule is meant to address; relying on sound science and building 
robust data sets to support rules; identifying specific metrics to 
measure effectiveness; adopting performance-based, rather than 
prescriptive regulations; and issuing waivers that facilitate new 
technology will all enhance the industry's ability to innovate and 
create new ways to improve safety while still being subject to FRA 
oversight.
    For example, automated track inspection (ATI) is changing the 
nature of track inspection by allowing railroads to gather massive 
amounts of data, analyze it for patterns and warning signs, and 
preventatively maintain their track. In some instances, ATI testing of 
track has resulted in more than a 90 percent reduction in the rate of 
unprotected main track defects found, yet the FRA is preventing 
railroads from widely implementing this safety-enhancing technology.\8\
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    Another example of FRA failing to understand the importance of 
technology in improving safety is the July 2022 Notice of Proposed 
Rulemaking (NPRM) that, for all intents and purposes, would mandate two 
crew members in a locomotive cab.\9\ Proponents of a two-person crew 
mandate for railroads, including current FRA leadership, say it would 
enhance rail safety. There is no data to support this claim. In fact, 
many railroads--including shortline, passenger, and most European 
railroads--already operate with a one-person crew in the cab. We do 
know, however, that a two-person mandate could stifle the adoption of 
other new technologies that would enhance railroads' safety and 
efficiency. Crew size has always been, and should continue to be, 
collectively bargained and the flexibility to evolve and adapt should 
be maintained.
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Implementing the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
    Railroads appreciate the work of this Committee and the 117th 
Congress to pass the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) in 
2021. IIJA's grant programs enable the public sector to partner with 
freight railroads and others to advance projects that provide 
significant public benefit. The Consolidated Rail Infrastructure and 
Safety Improvements (CRISI) program appropriates $1 billion per year 
for projects that improve the safety, efficiency, and reliability of 
intercity passenger rail and freight rail, a dramatic increase from 
past funding levels. For the first time, IIJA also provided $600 
million annually in dedicated funding for the Grade Crossing 
Elimination Program to help state and local communities close grade-
level crossings. These projects will dramatically improve safety, 
reduce emissions, and connect communities. Other IIJA grant programs, 
including Infrastructure for Rebuilding America (INFRA) and Rebuilding 
American Infrastructure with Sustainability and Equity (RAISE), will 
allow state and local governments working with freight railroads and 
other partners to fund major projects with regional and national 
impacts.
    For example, last year the Illinois Department of Transportation 
and the Chicago Region Environmental & Transportation Efficiency 
Program (CREATE), of which AAR is a proud partner, received a $70 
million INFRA grant for the Ogden Junction project in Chicago to 
replace, repair, or eliminate 16, 100-year-old bridges along a two mile 
stretch of freight rail lines. By modernizing these tracks, CREATE will 
increase safety, reduce delays for commuter rail, enhance the local 
community and businesses, and improve the flow of freight through the 
vitally important Chicago rail hub.
    Because of railroads' fuel efficiency, good-paying jobs, and strong 
ties to the communities in which they operate, the industry is in a 
unique position to achieve the broader goals of IIJA. While IIJA does 
address some permitting issues to ensure the money goes as far as 
possible while maintaining environmental protections, further 
permitting reforms would be beneficial.\10\ We look forward to working 
with Congress on its continued implementation.
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Maintaining Balanced Regulation
    Throughout history, the degree of government control over rail 
operations has tremendously impacted the industry's vibrancy and 
effectiveness. Prior to the enactment of the Staggers Act of 1980, 
excessive regulation was preventing railroads from earning adequate 
revenues and competing effectively in the freight transportation 
market. Congress recognized the need for a new regulatory scheme that 
allowed railroads to establish their routes and tailor rates based on 
market conditions and demand. Importantly, however, the Staggers Act 
did not completely deregulate railroads. The STB, the federal agency 
that regulates rail rates and service, retained authority to set 
maximum rates if a railroad was found to have ``market dominance'' over 
a particular movement and the rate was determined to be unreasonable. 
The STB was also permitted to take other actions if a railroad engages 
in anti-competitive behavior. Effectively, under today's balanced 
regulations, the market is allowed to govern, unless and until it is 
determined to have failed.
    Since Staggers, rail spending has risen dramatically as well as 
rail income, leading, in turn, to greater efficiency, improved safety, 
better service, and sharply lower average rates (Figures 9 and 10). 
These improvements are exactly what Congress hoped for when it passed 
Staggers. Today, railroads' survival is not in doubt, but that doesn't 
mean the need for balanced regulation has gone away. America's 
railroads are healthy precisely because of the regulatory balance that 
Staggers ushered in.

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    Unfortunately, some rail industry critics want policymakers to re-
impose excessive regulations and price controls on railroads. The STB 
is currently considering several proposals that would do just that. If 
this happened, the rail industry would not disappear overnight, but 
over time its physical plant would deteriorate, needed new capacity 
would not be added, and rail service would become slower, less 
responsive, and less reliable. Of course, the STB does, and should, 
play a productive role in adjudicating disputes between shippers and 
railroads, but excessive government intervention into private activity 
only risks sending the industry backwards.\11\
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                               Conclusion
    Railroads are bullish on 2023 and beyond. In the long term, demand 
for freight transportation will grow as our economy and population 
grow, and railroads are the most efficient, cost-effective, and safest 
way to meet much of this growing demand. Railroads reduce emissions and 
the overall environmental impact of transportation; provide good-
paying, stable careers to millions of Americans; enable domestic 
manufacturing, agriculture, and other industries to continue expanding; 
and enhance America's competitiveness in the global economy. In such an 
interconnected supply chain, every segment must be robust. Only through 
working together can we maximize supply chain performance and keep our 
economy moving.
    Railroads want to build on these successes, and they remain ready 
and willing partners with this Committee, the STB, and other 
policymakers to achieve our shared goals of a robust, strong U.S. rail 
network long into the future.

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you very much. I appreciate 
it, Mr. Jefferies.
    And now I am going to yield to Ms. Hoyle for introduction 
of our next witness.
    Ms. Hoyle of Oregon. Thank you, Chairman Graves and Ranking 
Member Larsen, for the opportunity to introduce Jeff Firth from 
Hamilton Construction, one of Oregon's largest construction 
firms. He has deep ties in southwest Oregon, and we both live 
in Springfield, Oregon. He is here today on behalf of the 
Associated General Contractors of America. And I am delighted 
to have this opportunity to introduce him to you, Mr. Chairman, 
and to the rest of my colleagues.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you.
    Mr. Firth, you are recognized.

TESTIMONY OF JEFF FIRTH, VICE PRESIDENT, HAMILTON CONSTRUCTION 
  COMPANY, ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS OF 
                            AMERICA

    Mr. Firth. Good morning, Chairman Graves, Ranking Member 
Larsen, and members of the Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure. Thank you for inviting me to testify on this 
vitally important topic.
    Again, my name is Jeff Firth, and I am the vice president 
of Hamilton Construction Company, and a board member of the 
Associated General Contractors of America, or AGC, where I 
serve as vice chair of the Highway and Transportation Division.
    AGC is a leading association in the construction industry, 
representing more than 27,000 firms, including America's 
leading general contractors and specialty contracting firms, 
many of which are small businesses. AGC contractors are both 
union and open shop, and are engaged in the construction of our 
Nation's infrastructure, including roads, bridges, airports, 
transit systems, levees and dams, and more. In 2020, 91 percent 
of firms within the construction industry had 20 or fewer 
employees.
    Hamilton Construction Company has been building bridges and 
highways as a heavy civil contractor since 1939. Hamilton has 
partnered with owners to deliver numerous award-winning, 
complex bridges, highways, dams, and other critical 
infrastructure projects. We have four divisions that operate 
throughout the West.
    In my testimony today, I will discuss the status of the 
construction industry, including the challenges that lie ahead 
for rebuilding our Nation's infrastructure.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, or IIJA, 
represents the most significant infusion of investment, 
including over $350 billion dedicated to roads and bridges in 
our infrastructure since the enactment of the Interstate 
Highway System since 1950. However, inflation and supply chain 
constraints have threatened the success of the IIJA. And in my 
testimony today, I will discuss the challenges that have 
emerged from the industry even as some conditions improve.
    Infrastructure project costs continue to climb amid rising 
construction materials prices and shortages. Material prices 
have increased and doubled or even tripled in some cases. The 
construction industry is facing material challenges that reach 
far and wide. In fact, a recent survey of AGC members found 
that 93 percent of construction companies are experiencing long 
lead times and/or allocations--less-than-full shipments--for 
construction materials. Supply chain disruptions from the 
pandemic have inflated the cost of construction materials and 
made project delivery schedules and product availability more 
uncertain.
    Construction firms, in situations where they are able to, 
will pass along the rising materials prices in order to remain 
successful. Unfortunately, the lead time in bidding these 
projects is so long that they are unable to predict the 
availability and price of some of these materials. We are 
experiencing an unprecedented burden with bidding procurement 
of new projects. As you can imagine, the impacts are especially 
devastating to small and DBE construction firms that lack the 
resources to absorb these unexpected costs.
    The industry is also facing uncertainty around Buy America 
requirements included in the IIJA, which expands domestic 
sourcing requirements to all construction materials on 
federally assisted projects, such as affordable housing, 
drinking water, transportation projects, and more. I want to be 
clear, AGC supports sensible efforts to incentivize the growth 
of domestic manufacturing capacity to restore balance to the 
supply chain.
    There is still significant confusion among industry, 
Federal, State, and local agencies regarding the difference 
between a construction material and a manufactured product and 
what manufacturing processes must occur domestically for 
construction materials.
    There is also heartburn within the construction industry 
about needing a Buy America waiver in the future and the low 
likelihood in it being granted based on history. To make the 
waiver process even more problematic, because of an Executive 
order, Federal agencies must submit waivers for items not made 
in America to the Office of Management and Budget. At Hamilton 
Construction, this new requirement has caused us confusion. 
Owners should have a better handle on what is being specified 
on their projects and ensure that these materials are available 
to meet Buy America requirements. Most owners simply pass the 
onus on to the contractor and stipulate that they will not pay 
the contractor until they find something that works. As you can 
imagine, this is hard to do if there is nothing out there that 
qualifies as an equivalent.
    While the IIJA provides a historic level of funding in our 
infrastructure, we are still recovering from a global pandemic, 
addressing a supply chain crisis, and implementing new Federal 
requirements that were part of the IIJA, which has created 
challenges for those of us tasked with rebuilding our 
infrastructure. But let me be clear, if Congress did not pass 
the IIJA, the impacts on transportation contractors would be 
have been significant with likely a cut of 20 to 30 percent in 
projects by the States.
    I thank the committee for the opportunity to testify today. 
I look forward to answering any questions that you may have.
    [Mr. Firth's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
Prepared Statement of Jeff Firth, Vice President, Hamilton Construction 
  Company, on behalf of the Associated General Contractors of America
                            I. Introduction
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and members of the 
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, thank you for inviting 
me to testify on this vitally important topic. My name is Jeff Firth, 
and I am the Vice President of Hamilton Construction Company and a 
board member of the Associated General Contractors of America (AGC) 
where I serve as Vice Chair of the Highways and Transportation 
Division.
    AGC is the leading association in the construction industry 
representing more than 27,000 firms, including America's leading 
general contractors and specialty-contracting firms, many of which are 
small businesses. Many of the nation's service providers and suppliers 
are also associated with AGC through a nationwide network of chapters. 
AGC contractors are both union and open shop and are engaged in the 
construction of the nation's commercial buildings, shopping centers, 
factories, warehouses, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, waterworks 
facilities, waste treatment facilities, levees, locks, dams, water 
conservation projects, defense facilities, multi-family housing 
projects, and more. In 2020, 91% of firms within the construction 
industry had 20 or fewer employees.\1\
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including+ZIP+Code+Business+Patterns,+by+Legal+Form+of+Organization+and+
Employment+
Size+Class+for+the+U.S.,+States,+and+Selected+Geographies:+2020
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    Hamilton Construction Co. (Hamilton) has been building bridges and 
highways as a heavy civil contractor since 1939. Hamilton has partnered 
with owners to deliver numerous award-winning, complex bridges, 
highways, dams, and other critical infrastructure projects. Hamilton 
has four divisions and operates throughout the West. The divisional 
organization allows Hamilton to better serve our clients and employees 
from local offices in Oregon, Washington, and Alaska.
    In my testimony today, I will discuss the status of the 
construction industry including the challenges that lie ahead for 
rebuilding our nation's infrastructure. The Infrastructure Investment 
and Jobs Act (IIJA) represents the most significant infusion of 
investment, including over $350 billion dedicated to roads and bridges, 
in our infrastructure since the enactment of the Interstate Highway 
System in the mid-1950's. However, inflation and supply chain 
constraints have threatened the success of the IIJA. In my testimony 
today I will discuss the challenges that have emerged for the industry, 
even as some conditions improve.
     II. Provide Flexibility for States and Construction Companies
States Need Flexibility to Meet their Transportation Needs
    AGC believes that the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) must 
continue to provide state and local governments with the flexibility to 
address and prioritize their unique transportation needs as Congress 
intends. Secretary Buttigieg recently \2\ stated, ``No one understands 
a community's needs better than those who live there,'' and AGC could 
not agree more. As each area of our country is diverse and unique, so 
are the transportation needs of each community. When standardized 
transportation solutions do not work in a community, too often the 
contractor gets blamed despite often not being involved in project 
selection or the design of a project.
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    Historically, the federal-aid highway program has been federally 
funded and state administered with over 90 percent of the highway 
funding going to states via formula. This ensures maximum flexibility 
for states to address their transportation needs and allows them to 
``flex'' funding between programs when necessary. We ask that Congress 
continue to prioritize formula funds and state flexibility in future 
surface transportation reauthorizations.
    FHWA released a guidance memo highlighting, among other things, 
that states should focus exclusively on maintenance and repair work on 
existing roadways before building more or new roads.\3\ This memo has 
caused confusion with state DOTs about the mismatch between this 
guidance and the lack of corresponding requirements for such measures 
by the IIJA. This policy, which was rejected by Congress in IIJA 
negotiations, paints a false narrative based upon FHWA's own data which 
states that 80% of roadway construction projects already repair 
existing roads and bridges.\4\ States are already fixing it first, 
thanks to the policies like performance management requirements--put in 
place by Congress. Our nation's interstate system was built and 
designed over 50 years ago, and it is past time that states modernize 
them to meet the current needs of the cities and populations they 
serve. Flexibility to add new capacity to meet these changed needs is 
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    AGC led a coalition \5\ effort requesting that FHWA rescind the 
``Policy on Using Bipartisan Infrastructure Law Resources to Build a 
Better America'' memorandum issued on December 16, 2021. The recent 
December 15 U.S. Government Accountability Office determination that 
this memo is a rule under the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) 
further underscores two of our concerns.\6\ First, if the memo 
articulated a valid rule, the regulated community--including state and 
local transportation agencies--must comply with its parameters. Second, 
formulation of the rule must comply with the APA, requiring public 
notice and comment which did not occur in this case. If FHWA wishes to 
prioritize certain types of programmatic policy changes, then the 
agency should work with Congress to legislate such changes or follow 
the notice and comment rulemaking process as required under the APA. 
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    Putting policy priorities aside, AGC is also concerned about the 
precedent that this policy memo sets. We fear the potential policies 
that future administrations could prioritize without undertaking a 
formal notice and comment rulemaking.
       III. Challenges to Rebuilding the Nation's Infrastructure
Supply Chain Constraints
    Infrastructure project costs continue to climb amid rising 
construction materials prices and shortages. Material price increases 
have doubled or even tripled in some cases \7\. The construction 
industry is facing material challenges that reach far and wide. In 
fact, a recent survey of AGC members found that 93 percent of 
construction companies are experiencing long lead times and/or 
allocations (less-than-full shipments) for construction materials.\8\ 
Supply chain disruptions from the pandemic have inflated the cost of 
construction materials and made project delivery schedules and product 
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    Infrastructure projects across the country have been delayed and 
more could be jeopardized. Construction firms, in situations where they 
are able to, will pass along the rising materials prices in order to 
remain successful. Unfortunately, the lead time in bidding these 
projects is so long that they are unable to predict the availability 
and price of some of these materials. We are experiencing an 
unprecedented burden with bidding and procurement of new projects. 
Specifically, some of these challenges for Hamilton include:
      Steel Pricing--We receive a price the day of bid but are 
required to let the supplier know anywhere from that same day up to one 
week if we will place an order. As a result, we have to decide in an 
incredibly short time period whether we will buy materials for a 
project that we do not know if we will be awarded, placing significant 
risk on our business.
      Concrete Shortages--Suppliers have been putting us on a 
weekly allocation (or rationing) for concrete. This is a challenge when 
you might have a 300+ cubic yard pour, can only get 50-75 cubic yards 
and have a set schedule to meet.
      Lattice Boom Crawler Cranes--The supplier we use only has 
six available on the west coast.
      Other Construction Equipment--The forecast for air 
compressors, light plants, generators, manlifts, forklifts is 40-50 
weeks at a minimum.

    Companies are also unable to foresee things like world events that 
cause a spike in oil prices or soaring inflation and therefore, in some 
instances, are forced to absorb these increases because there is no 
price adjustment clause available to them. At Hamilton Construction we 
have had experiences that vary state to state:
      Some of our owners have fuel adjustment clauses but only 
for certain scope of work performed on the project.
      Some owners have adjustment clauses for steel and 
asphalt, however, only for certain scopes of work within the project 
and the adjustment clauses do not cover all materials that will be used 
on a project.
      Some owners that we work with do not have any type of 
adjustment clauses at all.
      At Hamilton Construction fuel escalations were helpful, 
but not enough. Our fuel bill for the year overran close to $1 million 
dollars from what was budgeted.

    While contractors are in the business of managing risk, the events 
and circumstances of the last two years have led to such unparalleled 
unpredictability in the supply chain and market that contracting firms 
of all sizes are at greater risk now than in recent history of business 
failure. As you can imagine the impacts are especially devastating to 
small and DBE construction firms that lack the resources to absorb 
these unexpected costs.
Implementation of the Build America, Buy America Act (BABAA)
    The industry is also facing new uncertainty around Buy America 
requirements. I want to be clear, AGC supports sensible efforts to 
incentivize the growth of America's domestic manufacturing capacity to 
restore balance to the supply chain. As you know, the IIJA included the 
Build America, Buy America Act (BABAA) which expands domestic sourcing 
requirements to all construction materials on federally assisted 
projects such as affordable housing, drinking water, transportation 
projects and more.
    The Office of Management & Budget (OMB), who oversees 
implementation of BABAA, issued preliminary guidance defining 
construction materials on April 18, 2022, and told agencies to include 
BABAA requirements in all new contracts on May 14. OMB issued these 
``rules'' before conducting significant research on the supply chain, 
as it put forth a request for information within the guidance and has 
yet to issue final guidance. The Department of Transportation (U.S. 
DOT) initially issued a transitional waiver for six months which has 
since expired. We believe that U.S. DOT should issue another 
transitional waiver of six months to a year, or until the Department 
can provide clarifying guidance and ensure there is adequate time for 
public owners and contractors to understand these new requirements.
    There is still significant confusion among industry, federal, state 
and local agencies remain regarding the difference between a 
construction material and a manufactured product and what manufacturing 
processes must occur domestically for construction materials. For 
example, there is still no guidance from OMB or U.S. DOT about asphalt 
and concrete which has created confusion among industry and state DOT's 
about whether they are exempt from these new requirements--even though 
the statute is clear. To address this issue, U.S. DOT must identify a 
specific list of which construction materials will have to be Buy 
America compliant and which materials will be considered a manufactured 
product. To date, they have not done this.
    In addition, OMB has also added new uncertainty for the 
construction industry. For example, their April 18, 2022, Memo \9\ 
requires the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) to reevaluate its 
existing 1983 manufactured products waiver. To date, FHWA has not 
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    There is also heartburn within the construction industry about 
needing a Buy America waiver in the future and the low likelihood in 
being granted one based on history. To make the waiver process even 
more problematic, because of an executive order, federal agencies must 
submit waivers for items not made in America to OMB. They assure us 
though that OMB must approve or deny the waiver within 15 days. 
However, this does not detail when U.S. DOT or another agency received 
the waiver request first and only starts the 15-day deadline when the 
agency actually transmits the waiver request to OMB. We ask that the 
Committee conduct thorough oversight to ensure that the waiver process 
is transparent and does not get caught up in politics of the White 
House and OMB.
    At Hamilton Construction this new requirement has caused confusion. 
Owners should have a better handle on what is being specified on their 
projects and ensure that these materials are available to meet Buy 
America requirements. Most owners simply pass the onus onto the 
contractor, and then stipulate that they will not pay the contractor 
until they find something that works. As you can imagine, this is hard 
to do if there is nothing that qualifies as an equivalent.
    We have heard that one DOT is going through and creating a product 
list that meets the new Buy America requirements and distributing it 
amongst their contractors. As contractors, we only bid and build what 
is on the plans, meaning substitutions can also be very difficult to 
obtain.
    A more responsible way to implement these new requirements would be 
for OMB and U.S. DOT to implement them on a product-by-product basis, 
after identifying manufacturing capacity. However, it appears as though 
they are choosing to charge full speed ahead amidst supply chain woes--
like long lead times and material allocations.
    One thing FHWA has done is a Request for Information on the 
availability of Buy America compliant electric vehicle (EV) charges and 
then subsequently a proposed waiver for them. AGC offered support for 
such waiver.\10\ However, it is disappointing that the agency did not 
undertake outreach and research to a similar degree of rigor on other 
manufactured products and construction materials subject to BABAA.\11\ 
While this waiver will address the challenges present with EV charging 
stations, the manufactured product is merely one example of a much 
larger industry-wide problem when it comes to meeting these new 
requirements. Put nicely, implementation of the new Buy America 
requirements is off to a rocky start and the construction industry is 
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Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) into law--USDOT and the 
Department of Energy published an RFI seeking comments within 47 days 
to discern whether EV charging stations could meet BABAA requirements. 
FHWA, on the other hand, issued an RFI to help understand the possible 
impacts of BABAA requirements on the vast field of construction 
materials utilized on federal-aid highway projects on July 28, 2022--
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Greenhouse Gas Performance Measure
    Last summer, FHWA proposed a rule to establish a greenhouse gas 
performance measure. During debate of the IIJA and prior surface 
transportation laws, Congress considered proposals that would provide 
FHWA with the authority to create a performance measure on greenhouse 
gas emissions but ultimately rejected them. AGC believes that this 
greenhouse gas performance measure would be a one-size-fits-all mandate 
that would limit a state's ability to choose transportation projects 
that fit its unique needs. We believe FHWA should follow congressional 
intent and refrain from reviving policy ideas that Congress considered 
and ultimately rejected.
    A greenhouse gas performance measure will limit a state's options 
to connect people to jobs, healthcare, and education. The 
transportation needs faced by Americans living in urban areas are not 
the same as those living in rural parts of the country. Requiring New 
York to invest in the New York City subway rather than a roadway 
project might work for the transportation needs of their state. 
However, factors like climate and population density may limit some 
states' transportation options.
    If the Administration insists on moving forward with this 
rulemaking, AGC believes that they should provide an exemption for low-
population density states and focus on the states with the highest 
greenhouse gas emissions. Likewise, we believe that FHWA should not 
penalize states for not meeting their greenhouse gas emissions targets.
Waters of the United States (WOTUS) Rule
    The Clean Water Act (CWA) grants the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers 
(Corps) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) jurisdiction over 
``navigable waters,'' defined in the act as ``Waters of the United 
States'' (WOTUS) without further clarification. Both the federal 
agencies and the courts have long struggled to define WOTUS: 
establishing which waters are regulated by the federal government and 
which fall under the jurisdiction of state and local governments for 
protection. Federal jurisdiction affects all CWA programs (not just 
dredge and fill/wetlands permits) and determines when a construction 
site must obtain a federal permit.
    The administration released its new WOTUS rule despite the fact the 
U.S. Supreme Court is currently weighing the scope of the Clear Water 
Act as part of the Sackett v. EPA case. A ruling in that case could 
render elements of the new rule irrelevant, adding further regulatory 
confusion for a large section of the economy. AGC urged the Biden 
Administration to wait for the Supreme Court to issue a ruling on the 
Sackett case before proceeding. We also urged the administration to 
focus its regulatory efforts on implementing the environmental 
streamlining provisions that were included in the IIJA the president 
signed into law over a year ago.
    The construction industry invests a significant amount of time and 
cost in compliance with the Clean Water Act and to avoid or reduce 
potential impacts on the environment. The new rule is the sixth time 
the requirements have changed in seven years, compounding the existing 
uncertainty in an area of law that can not only significantly delay and 
increase costs on projects but also bring criminal as well as civil 
penalties. AGC would support any congressional efforts to halt 
implementation of this new rule, especially given how any Supreme Court 
decision could lead to the seventh change to the rule in just as many 
years.
Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) Program
    On July 21, 2022, the U.S. Department of Transportation announced a 
notice of proposed rulemaking on the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise 
(DBE) Program. AGC represents DBE and non-DBE firms and has identified 
many areas of agreement on how to improve the DBE program. For example, 
we are pleased that the Department is proposing to increase the 
personal net worth cap and exclude retirement assets from the 
calculation. DBE firms should be able to grow without punishing the 
owner of the company for planning for retirement. Likewise, we are 
pleased that the Department is taking steps to streamline the 
interstate certification process. This will enable these small 
companies to focus more of their time and resources on running their 
construction company and not forcing them to spend time on a 
duplicative paperwork process.
    AGC supports better alignment of the DBE program with the federal 
small business program under the Small Business Act. However, AGC warns 
U.S. DOT against a wholesale substitution of the existing rules for DBE 
size determination with that of the U.S. Small Business 
Administration's (SBA) without careful consideration and study.
    AGC believes that U.S. DOT should ensure that DBE availability and 
capacity in an area does not diminish, which would undermine efforts to 
achieve programmatic goals. That is why AGC supports aligning the DBE 
statutory size standard--currently capped at $28.48 million gross 
annual revenue--with NAICS code 237310 (Highway, Street, and Bridge 
Construction) that sets a $45 million cap and is revised for industry 
trends and inflation at least every five years by the SBA.
    And, rather than limiting DBEs to certain sub-sizes as specialty 
contractors--as NAICS codes for specialty contractors are generally 
capped at a $19 million gross annual revenue threshold--AGC supports 
maintaining just the one singular code and its accompanying threshold 
to avoid administrative confusion that could lead to DBEs being 
prematurely removed from the program. Also, DBE contractors can work as 
prime contractors on some transportation construction contracts and 
specialty contractors (i.e., subcontractors) on others. That 
flexibility maximizes their opportunity to bid on and win federally 
assisted transportation construction contracts.
    Such a change is not unprecedented. In fact, Congress enacted this 
approach in section 150 of the Federal Aviation Administration Act of 
2018 for the mode's DBE program.
    As it stands, however, NAICS codes for the specialty construction 
sector were designed for vertical building construction, not 
transportation construction contractors. These codes do not account for 
the fact that in transportation construction, jobsites can span many 
miles and require more heavy equipment than for constructing a 
building. For example, to face a cap of $19 million can be especially 
challenging for a structural steel contractor that specializes in 
bridge work, as steel remains at elevated prices, is a ubiquitous 
material in bridges and whose placement requires significant investment 
in heavy equipment.
    Instead of allowing room for DBE contractors to grow, the program 
is further handicapping their success. Instead of making it easier for 
prime contractors to utilize specialty DBE firms, it is making it more 
difficult. Finally, it is making it harder for states to meet or even 
exceed their DBE goals by limiting the work these DBE firms are able to 
perform. AGC looks forward to working with Congress and U.S. DOT to 
address the unintended consequences of the use of NAICS codes in 
transportation construction.
    At Hamilton we have had very positive experiences in working with 
DBEs. The main challenge we see is that the pool of DBE's is not 
growing. As a prime contractor, we want to have options available. We 
also want to ensure that when the time comes to perform the work, the 
DBE has the capacity to perform the job and isn't trying to work on 10 
jobs concurrently with limited resources.
    We utilize DBEs for various types of jobs. For example, one good 
experience with a DBE firm was on a Washington State DOT project. They 
performed the traffic control for us and did a great job. It was one of 
the more difficult jobsite conditions where there are 3-5 lanes of 
traffic in each direction, on/off-ramps to contend with, and also 
challenges with the general public--not paying attention in work zones, 
driving too fast, not focusing on the road, etc.
Facilitate Efficient Project Delivery
    AGC believes a great way to maximize the investment in IIJA would 
be to implement the environmental review and permitting reforms that 
were mandated in the bill. The complicated operations of these current 
laws and the intersection of their requirements can delay projects that 
would improve the overall safety and efficiency of the surface 
transportation system. By implementing these provisions, we believe the 
costs associated with delivering projects will be reduced without 
jeopardizing environmental protections.
    Specifically, we ask that the administration implement the 
provisions that would:
      Codify the One Federal Decision policy;
      Allow for utility relocation in the right of way prior to 
the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) review being completed; 
and
      Extend the time period for a state to assume the 
responsibility for small projects, that have little or no environmental 
impact, from a term of not more than three years, to a term of five 
years.

    AGC also has concerns about recent changes to the National 
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) in the Council on Environmental 
Quality's (CEQ) Phase I rulemaking. These changes add bureaucratic 
steps in an already onerous and slow process, require more time-
consuming analyses, increase litigation risk for project decisions, and 
encourage agencies to impose requirements that go beyond CEQ 
regulations and would slow agency decision-making and discourage the 
transformational investments needed across the economy.
    Federal agencies are not just making changes to NEPA, they are 
systematically reversing all streamlining reforms from recent years as 
well as introducing additional requirements that will delay projects. 
This can be seen in the major permitting programs such as Clean Water 
Act section 404 permitting, section 401 water quality certifications, 
threatened and endangered species, and migratory birds.
    The promises to deliver timely and sorely needed infrastructure 
under the IIJA and the Inflation Reduction Act will be significantly 
challenged if projects are delayed and, in turn, face steep cost 
increases that block their construction. These delays will make it 
harder to achieve climate change goals, to make infrastructure more 
resilient, and to better prepare and protect communities from natural 
disasters, especially disadvantaged communities.
Buy Clean
    Under Executive Order 14057 and provisions of the Inflation 
Reduction Act, federal agencies are looking at ``Buy Clean'' programs 
that would force material/product choices based on embodied carbon 
using Environmental Product Declarations (EPD). EPDs were initiated by 
industry to present general information about the environmental 
attributes of a product, including the carbon emissions associated with 
its development.
    While EPDs are a tool for measuring embodied carbon, they can be 
varied in their approach, do not provide a full life cycle assessment, 
and are not universal. In addition, EPDs have limited functionality for 
making or comparing important design choices (such as for safety or 
performance) or calculating the embodied carbon of an entire 
infrastructure project--and/or comparing it to another project.
    Buy Clean programs are new and have not been fully implemented even 
in the limited states--including California--that have begun to utilize 
them. Their impact on the supply chain is unknown. As is whether they 
will require more staff to administer and change traditional roles 
within the infrastructure development team--possibly resulting in new 
professional services or roles for the general contractor (e.g., a new 
environmental review akin to determining how to actually build a 
project) and introducing risk.
    AGC asks that Congress and the Administration allow for an 
appropriate transition time to these new requirements and examine the 
impacts that these new requirements could have on small and DBE 
contractors and suppliers. The uncertainties associated with Buy Clean 
programs could have serious implications if approached in a rushed/
haphazard manner. In addition, we ask that they work with industry to 
implement these requirements. Recognizing the proactive role that 
industry has played in the development and adoption of EPDs, AGC 
encourages market-based incentives associated with embodied carbon. 
Furthermore, the government should continue to include industry in the 
EPD process moving forward, reward private sector innovation, and 
recognize the importance of consensus-based processes for industry 
standards.
                 IV. Support the Construction Workforce
State of the Construction Workforce
    The construction industry's labor shortages remain severe with most 
construction firms expecting labor conditions to remain tight. Despite 
firms increasing pay and benefits, the workforce shortage continues. A 
2022 AGC survey found 93 percent of construction firms report they have 
open positions they are trying to fill. Among those firms, 91 percent 
are having trouble filling at least some of those positions--
particularly among the craft workforce that performs the bulk of onsite 
construction work. While finding qualified workers remains a challenge, 
the survey does show that contractors are optimistic, particularly with 
road, bridge, and transportation construction.
    The industry is facing the effects of decades of policies directing 
students to attend four-year institutions as the only career option. 
About 21 percent of all total federal education funding goes to career 
or workforce education with the majority going to traditional four-year 
colleges.\12\ That is why AGC supports increased funding for Career and 
Technical Education funding (Perkins Act.). Perkins is the primary 
federal program for developing and supporting career and technical 
education programs for secondary and post-secondary students. Exposing 
younger individuals to construction skills and careers is critical. 
However, these programs, especially construction focused ones, are 
expensive to operate and administer for local schools. And these 
programs face rising inflationary pressure and lingering pandemic 
impacts.
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The Jumpstart Our Businesses by Supporting Students (JOBS) Act of 2021
    Last Congress legislation was introduced, Jumpstart Our Businesses 
by Supporting Students (JOBS) Act of 2021, which is one legislative 
initiative that could help make a tangible impact on this problem. This 
bill would expand Pell Grants to all individuals seeking a career. 
These grants provide billions of federal aid to over seven million 
students in post-secondary programs of at least a semester in length. 
Currently, Pell Grant eligible programs must be a full-time semester in 
length which has largely limited student's ability to use Pell Grants 
to pursue short-term career education programs. Emphasizing competency 
and value of a program over instruction time metrics would allow for a 
host of craft worker industry-recognized certificate programs to become 
eligible for federal needs-based aid. I know many of you on this 
Committee have cosponsored this legislation in the past and we thank 
you for your support.
                             V. Conclusion
    The IIJA provides market opportunities for transportation 
contractors, heavy contractors, building contractors and utility 
contractors. And most importantly, it demonstrates to our existing and 
future workforce that there is sustainable work in the years to come. 
This historic level of funding in our infrastructure when combined with 
recovering from a global pandemic, addressing a supply chain crisis, 
and implementing new federal requirements that were a part of the IIJA 
has created challenges for those of us tasked with rebuilding our 
infrastructure. But let me be clear, if Congress did not pass the IIJA, 
the impacts on transportation contractors would have been significant 
with likely a cut of 20-30 percent in projects by the states. I thank 
the Committee for the opportunity to testify today. I appreciate its 
continued efforts to help improve our nation's infrastructure and enact 
policies that create good paying jobs in America. I look forward to 
answering any questions you may have.
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    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you, Mr. Firth.
    Now we will move to Mr. Roger Guenther--did I get that 
right?
    Mr. Guenther. Yes, Chairman, that is correct.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. The executive director of Port 
Houston. So, you are recognized.

 TESTIMONY OF ROGER GUENTHER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PORT HOUSTON

    Mr. Guenther. Thank you.
    Good morning, Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen and 
members of the committee, it is a pleasure to be with you 
today. And thank you, Chairman, for taking the time to come and 
see our port late last summer to see what it is all about.
    Again, my name is Roger Guenther, and I am the executive 
director of Port Houston. The Houston Ship Channel serves the 
largest port in the Nation, handling more waterborne tonnage 
cargo than any other port in the United States, either by 
annual tonnage as well as the number of ships, by a wide 
margin. Our ship channel sustains more than 3.2 million jobs 
each year and more than $800 billion in annual economic impact 
for the United States.
    Now, I can, and I will speak to the challenges and 
opportunities specifically about Port Houston. I don't speak 
for other ports, but I am quite sure there are similar issues 
across the Nation.
    Over the past 2 years, Houston has not been immune to the 
challenges of a global supply chain that has been overwhelmed. 
Our strong partnerships with labor and industry played, and 
continue to play, a critical role in our ability to push cargo 
through our terminals and accommodate the increase in cargo 
share the gulf continues to experience.
    Strained by unprecedented demand, we have seen firsthand 
how critical each logistical segment of the supply chain is for 
the efficient movement of freight. And I can tell you, the 
seaports are one of those critical links.
    As demand peaked, terminals became congested as import and 
export cargo were limited by many, many factors, and container 
facilities maxed out the capacity because they had no place to 
go and nowhere to take them, so, they sat on our terminals. To 
ensure a resilient supply chain and be prepared for future 
demands, investment must be made in our Nation's seaports where 
cargo continues to rapidly grow, and where private investments 
are being made near ports, in distribution centers for imported 
consumer goods and for manufactured goods that are exported, 
like petrochemical products and agricultural commodities of the 
like and, again, exported globally. As Congress provides money 
for infrastructure, those resources should be focused on 
Federal assets--the roads, the rails, the waterways--and 
perhaps even nearby inland depots that are critical to serving 
the fluidity of our Nation's ports.
    I can give you an example of what is going on in Houston. 
In 2022, as the U.S. container imports were flat, Houston grew 
by 19 percent, and our exports were up 18 percent compared to 
an overall decline in exports of 5 percent. That is container 
imports and exports. To put it simply, Houston is an example 
that is exponentially outpacing cargo growth around the Nation, 
and we have had to speed up many projects to try to accommodate 
this continued growth. And we cannot wait.
    Ports are responsible for capital investments of their own 
terminals, such as wharf improvements and facilities to 
accommodate this growth. And we are making, as ports, those 
improvements. But it must be a Federal priority and a Federal 
obligation to make the capital investments on the waterside and 
landside in our channels and highway infrastructure that serve 
our Nation's ports to maintain the resiliency and fluidity 
going forward. Houston, and ports most critical to the Nation's 
economy, should be prioritized for infrastructure investments. 
If not, the Nation's busiest supply chains are vulnerable to 
disruption.
    Another example: Houston Ship Channel has been underfunded 
by 50 to 60 percent for operations and maintenance dollars over 
the past several years, resulting in draft restrictions 
throughout our channel. We have received 18 cents per ton of 
cargo compared to the national average of 60 cents per ton of 
cargo. Houston serves as the gateway for the gulf for many 
global trade routes. Without an adequately maintained channel, 
vessels must leave cargo behind at the port of origin, which 
exacerbates the chain backups.
    In Houston, we have been able to speed our deepening and 
widening project, Project 11, by prefunding the first segments 
of the dredging, shaving off already 5 to 7 years of a 
traditional timeline. Each day earlier that we deliver this 
project, which serves more than 200 waterfront facilities in 
our own port, it generates $366,000 a day of economic impact to 
the Nation. In the past few years, the Federal Government has 
funded several other ports with Federal dollars to finish their 
dredging projects to completion. Adding the Port of Houston to 
that list would have enormous positive impact on the Nation's 
economy.
    As I mentioned earlier, each segment of the supply chain, 
including the highways, rails, and those trades that support 
them, are necessary, as my colleagues here at the table have 
mentioned. And, Mr. Chairman and committee members, I applaud 
your commitment to funding solutions to ensure we learn from 
the past supply chain crisis and are well prepared to minimize 
the next.
    Thank you for your time today, and I am happy to answer any 
questions that you have later.
    [Mr. Guenther's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Roger Guenther, Executive Director, Port Houston
    Good Morning Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and members of 
the Committee. It is a pleasure to be with you today. My name is Roger 
Guenther and I am the Executive Director of Port Houston. The Houston 
Ship Channel serves the largest Port in the nation, handling more 
waterborne cargo than any other port in the United States in terms of 
both annual tonnage and number of vessel calls . . . by far. Our ship 
channel sustains more than 3.2 million jobs and generates more than 
$800 billion in annual economic impact for the United States.
    I can, and I will speak to the challenges and opportunities 
specifically about Port Houston. I don't speak for other ports but I'm 
quite sure there are similar issues across the nation. Over the past 
two years, Houston has not been immune to the challenges of a global 
supply chain that has been overwhelmed. Our strong partnerships with 
labor and industry played, and continue to play, a critical role in our 
ability to push cargo through our terminals and accommodate the 
increase in cargo share our Gulf region continues to experience. 
Strained by unprecedented demand, we have seen first-hand how critical 
each logistical segment along the supply chain has been to the 
efficient movement of goods. Seaports are one of those critical links.
    As demand peaked, terminals became congested as import and export 
cargo were limited by many factors, and container facilities maxed out 
capacity because cargo had no place to go and did not move. To ensure a 
resilient supply chain and be prepared for future demands, investments 
must be made in our nation's seaports where cargo continues to rapidly 
grow, and where private investments are being made near ports, in 
distribution centers for imported consumer goods and for manufactured 
products and agriculture commodities that are exported globally. As 
Congress provides money for infrastructure, those resources should 
focus on federal assets--roads, rails, and waterways--or perhaps, 
inland depots, that are critical to serving the fluidity of our 
nation's ports.
    I can give you an example of what is going on in Houston. In 2022, 
as the US container imports were flat, Houston grew 19%. Our exports 
were up 18% compared to the US overall declined 5%. To put it simply, 
Houston is an example that is exponentially outpacing the cargo growth 
around the rest of the nation, and we have had to speed up many 
projects to try to accommodate this continued growth. We cannot wait. 
Ports are responsible for capital investments of their own terminals, 
such as wharf improvements and facilities to accommodate growth. And we 
are making those investments. But, it must be a federal priority and 
federal obligation to make the capital investments on the waterside and 
the landside in our channels and highway infrastructure that serve our 
nation's ports to maintain resiliency and fluidity going forward. 
Houston, and ports most critical to the nation's economy, should be 
prioritized for infrastructure investments. If not, the nation's 
busiest supply chains are vulnerable to future disruption.
    The Houston Ship Channel has been underfunded by 50%-60% for 
operations and maintenance dollars over the past several years, 
resulting in draft restrictions throughout the channel. We have 
received 18 cents per ton of cargo compared to the national average of 
60 cents. Houston serves as the Gateway to the Gulf for many global 
trade routes. Without an adequately maintained channel, vessels must 
leave cargo behind at the port of origin, exacerbating supply chain 
backups. Therefore, if Houston is draft restricted, many of the other 
Gulf ports effectively are as well. To remain in front of fluid 
commerce, our federal dollars must go to maintaining the authorized 
depth at our nation's most critical ports, like Houston. Vessels 
continue to get larger and carry more cargo each year. We must be able 
to accommodate them.
    In Houston, we have been able to speed up our deepening and 
widening project (Project 11) by pre-funding the first segments of the 
dredging, shaving off about 5-7 years of a traditional timeline. Each 
day earlier that we deliver this project, which serves more than 200 
waterfront facilities, it generates $366,000 of economic impact to the 
nation. In the past few years, the federal government has funded 
several other ports to finish their dredging projects to completion, 
and adding the Port of Houston to that list would have enormous 
positive impact on the nation's economy.
    As I mentioned earlier, each segment of the supply chain including 
our highways, rail, and those trades that support them, are necessary 
to make goods movement run smoothly and efficiently. As I am joined 
here today by experts in those fields, I am sure they can shed more 
light on those specific segments. Mr. Chairman and committee members, I 
applaud your commitment to funding solutions to ensure we learn from 
the past supply chain crisis and are well prepared to minimize the 
next.
    Thank you for your time today, and I am happy to answer any 
questions y'all may have.

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you.
    Now we turn to Mr. Greg Regan, who is the president of 
Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO. Thanks for being 
here.

   TESTIMONY OF GREG REGAN, PRESIDENT, TRANSPORTATION TRADES 
                      DEPARTMENT, AFL-CIO

    Mr. Regan. Good morning. Thank you, Chairman Graves and 
Ranking Member Larsen, for inviting me to testify at this 
committee's first hearing of this new Congress.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. You might pull your mic a little 
closer.
    Mr. Regan. Little closer.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Yes.
    Mr. Regan. I am Greg Regan, president of the Transportation 
Trades Department of the AFL-CIO. I am speaking today on behalf 
of 37 unions who build, operate, and maintain our Nation's 
transportation systems, whose members are on the front line of 
our freight network.
    This hearing occurs at a pivotal moment. TTD has long 
advocated for making generational and much needed investments 
in infrastructure and transportation services to meet our 
growing freight and passenger needs. Because of the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, there are already 7,000 
projects underway that are putting Americans to work, that 
includes 3,800 bridge projects, improvements to nearly 70,000 
miles of roads and highways, and the largest ever dedicated 
investment in our ports. These projects are creating jobs, 
growing the economy, and strengthening supply chains in rural 
and urban communities alike.
    Just yesterday, the DOT announced the first round of Mega 
grant recipients. And we learned that long overdue freight 
needs are being met nationwide. This includes $250 million for 
improvements to the Brent Spence Bridge, which facilitates $400 
billion in freight movement annually. Another $150 million will 
go to replace the I-10 Calcasieu River Bridge in Louisiana. And 
that will include a workforce agreement to target jobs and 
training opportunities to underserved communities.
    Other IIJA investments in ports and rural communities will 
improve the efficiency and reliability of our supply chain not 
just in major cities, but also in communities like Tell City, 
Indiana; Columbus, Mississippi; Sanford, North Carolina, and 
many more. Cities and towns represented by every single member 
of this committee will benefit from these investments.
    These projects are not only helping to meet the demand of 
our freight network through more modern and efficient 
transportation infrastructure, they are also ensuring that 
millions of workers will have higher wages and better benefits. 
This economic opportunity is possible because of the Biden 
administration's whole-of-Government approach to supporting 
workers and creating good union jobs.
    Coupled with the CHIPS Act, the IIJA will also ensure our 
domestic manufacturing capabilities are resilient to sudden 
shocks or rapid changes in the global economy. Policies like 
Build America, Buy America in the law will significantly 
increase domestic manufacturing of iron steel and other 
manufactured goods. And the CHIPS Act will serve as an historic 
boost to domestic advanced manufacturing.
    But these investments and policies enshrined into our law 
over the past 2 years are only part of the picture. If we are 
serious about strengthening our national supply chain, we must 
also address the fundamental and structural problems that 
caused the crisis which cannot be not be solved through 
investment alone.
    Since the beginning of this pandemic, the most significant 
supply chain challenges we faced were not the result of 
inadequate infrastructure, but were largely due to business 
decisions made by employers in key freight industries that put 
profits over workers and consumers. Their decisions in the 
years leading up to the pandemic were not driven by better 
service but, rather, by shareholder concerns. Thus, they 
rendered themselves completely unprepared for the stress the 
pandemic placed on our own supply chain. Even as the system 
came crashing down around them, freight companies continued to 
rake in record profits while your constituents paid the price.
    While my written testimony goes into much greater detail, I 
would like to highlight just a handful of examples for the 
members of this committee. In the years leading up to the 
pandemic and during its onset, the freight rail industry 
furloughed 45,000 rail workers, a staggering 30 percent of its 
total workforce, not because these workers weren't needed, but 
simply because the railroads wanted to maximize profits. When 
consumer demands spiked, the railroads simply couldn't keep up 
because they had already slashed their workforce and operating 
equipment to the bone.
    The trucking industry has complained of so-called workforce 
shortages, but the truth is, they have slashed wages and 
benefits and made working conditions so bad that workers who 
would otherwise be interested in driving are simply looking 
elsewhere. When our ports needed trucks and trains to move 
cargo so they could offload ships, the capacity just was not 
there.
    Elsewhere in the airline industry, some are pushing the 
same false narrative about workforce shortages with the goal of 
reducing pilot training requirements and boosting profits. As 
we prepare for an FAA reauthorization, we must reject any 
efforts to go backwards on safety for any reason, least of 
which being profit margins.
    And in the maritime industry, the lack of a comprehensive 
national maritime strategy has left our country subject to the 
whims of the largely four known shipping conglomerates, since 
we do not have the sealift capacity to meet our own export and 
import needs. We can loosen this choke hold and increase our 
competitiveness by supporting the construction and operation of 
Jones Act vessels. Enabling U.S.-built, U.S.-flagged, and U.S.-
crewed feeder vessels to carry a portion of America's trade 
will ensure a more resilient supply chain
    Finally, pursuing a more efficient supply chain cannot be 
an excuse to eliminate or weaken longstanding labor laws, such 
as collective bargaining rights, fatigue protections, training 
and qualification requirements, and others. Doing so would only 
harm the workers that tirelessly keep the economy and the flow 
of goods moving. But it is the dedication and expertise of 
these workers, in addition to the investments that are 
currently being made, that give me the confidence that we will 
deliver a stronger and more resilient supply chain in the years 
to come.
    Thank you for inviting me, and I look forward to answering 
your questions.
    [Mr. Regan's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
                          Department, AFL-CIO
    On behalf of the Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO (TTD), 
and our 37 affiliated unions, I thank Chairman Graves and Ranking 
Member Larsen for inviting me to testify before the Committee today on 
the current state of our supply chain. The employees represented by 
TTD-affiliated unions are on the front lines of these challenges--
including the workers directly engaged in freight transportation at 
railroads and ports and who work in industries that have struggled with 
the down-economy effects of chokepoints and delays.
    Since the beginning of the pandemic, many of the most significant 
supply chain challenges we've faced as a nation are due to harmful 
employer practices driven not to increase efficiency or deliver better 
service but purely out of greed. These practices have degraded the 
transportation and infrastructure workforce in every possible way and 
upended the reliability of our freight network. And it is your 
constituents who have paid the economic price for the decisions and 
practices of these companies.
    From rail and aviation to maritime and trucking, employers are 
simply not investing in their employees. Nor are they investing in the 
critical infrastructure on which our economy and communities depend. 
The lack of investment from employers in their workforce and 
infrastructure lies in stark contrast to the record federal investments 
resulting from the historic, bipartisan Infrastructure Investments and 
Jobs Act (IIJA). Transportation Labor has been sounding the alarm about 
the severe consequences of slashing workforces in the freight industry 
and investments in infrastructure long before the pandemic brought 
these challenges squarely into the spotlight. I'm not sure how much 
louder we can be at this point. And despite the fact that 
transportation unions and their members have worked tirelessly to shore 
up and improve our transportation network and systems, I'm sad to say 
there are those who continue to try to blame the workers for supply 
chain problems.
    Labor unions, the workers they represent, and even this 
administration--which signed the most consequential infrastructure and 
domestic manufacturing bills in generations--have all been scapegoated. 
Those who blame working people or this President for our supply chain 
problems do so knowing their claims are hollow but advance their 
narrative anyway to score cheap political points and shield themselves 
from blame. The truth is, since the start of the pandemic, corporations 
have vacuumed up massive, record-setting profits.
    At the same time, they've opportunistically made it harder for 
American families to get by. These companies charge obscene amounts of 
money for goods, gouging the public and making it harder for everyday 
workers to make a fair and honest living. That blame needs to be 
focused where it's due: rampant corporate greed that prioritizes 
already wealthy shareholders over everyday consumers, workers, and the 
economic health of this country. That is the true reason our supply 
chain has suffered and it's the reason American families have suffered. 
It's time to rein in these practices and refocus our national goals on 
helping working people get ahead. We urge all policymakers to do the 
same.
Class I Freight Railroads Have Spent Years Undermining Their Workforce 
 and the Quality of their Service and Their Behavior Continues To This 
                                  Day
    The supply chain crisis put a spotlight on components of the 
freight network that were particularly ill-prepared for the demand 
shock during the pandemic. Class I freight railroads were one of the 
root causes of the crisis. Railroads made deep cuts to their workforce 
and capital infrastructure, which has rendered them unable to meet 
freight service demand, including the pandemic-era surge. These 
problems continue in the freight rail industry to this day.
    Class I railroads have moved away from the traditional operating 
model of a service industry that responds to variable demand of its 
customers. Instead, for the last eight years, the Class I railroads 
have pursued an operating model known as ``precision scheduled 
railroading'', or PSR. Under PSR, railroads supposedly operate on a 
more regimented schedule. Put another way, instead of providing service 
to shippers in a manner that fits their business needs, trains are 
supposed to arrive at a ``scheduled'' time and it is then incumbent on 
the shipper to be prepared to load or unload cargo. Further, by 
eliminating on-demand response and flexibility in the construction and 
quantity of freight trains, railroads can reduce capital assets like 
locomotives and cars, and eliminate jobs across the network. 
Unfortunately, PSR fails to provide neither precise nor regularly 
scheduled service. The experience with PSR over the last eight years 
proves that it is a failed operating model. It does not provide the 
service rail customers need, has led to the elimination of thousands of 
rail workers vital to the operations of these railroads, and ultimately 
threatens the long-term viability of the Class I railroads.
    Freight rail is of vital importance to our country's economy. It 
accounts for around 40% of long-distance ton-miles and hauls one-third 
of the country's exports.\1\ The supply chain challenges that arose 
from the backlog of ships and containers at ports like the Ports of Los 
Angeles and Long Beach were due in large part to capacity issues in our 
freight rail system. Throughout the pandemic, many railroads self-
imposed ``service embargoes'' to limit the freight they would accept 
from customers.\2\ These service embargoes have led to massive backlogs 
of freight waiting to move by rail, including containers at ports that 
the railroads were supposed to move.\3\
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Rail-Network-Fact-Sheet.pdf
    \2\ https://www.bnsf.com/news-media/customer-notifications/
notification.page?notId=limited-embargo-of-certain-shipments-destined-
for-california and Union Pacific asks customers to meter traffic or 
face embargoes--Trains
    \3\ https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/08/railroad-bottleneck-at-west-
coast-ports-reaches-inflection-point.html
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    Members of Congress from both parties and both Chambers have 
repeatedly raised how the railroads' poor service is negatively 
impacting their constituents and a wide array of businesses in 
practically every sector of the American economy, including 
agriculture, energy, mining, and chemicals.\4\ Just last month, the 
Surface Transportation Board (STB), which is the federal agency that 
regulates the economic aspects of the freight rail industry, held an 
emergency hearing involving Union Pacific (UP) and one of its 
customers, Foster Farms, because Union Pacific is not providing 
adequate rail service to deliver corn feed to Foster Farms to prevent 
millions of chickens from starving to death.\5\ It has taken two 
emergency service orders from the STB to improve the situation. And 
it's not just Foster Farms suffering. In 2017, UP had 27 service 
embargoes. In 2022, UP had over 1,000 service embargoes, a tenfold 
increase.\6\ 98% of the service embargoes in 2022 were attributed to 
congestion on UP's rail network, which is entirely in the railroad's 
control.\7\
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    \4\ See Finstad Leads Letter Urging Action on Union Pacific Rail 
Service Delay--Press Releases--United States Congressman Brad Finstad 
(house.gov); https://www.cramer.senate.gov/news/press-releases/sens-
cramer-baldwin-colleagues-press-surface-transportation-board-on-rail-
disruptions-urge-reliable-service-for-american-industries-shippers; 
Rep. Ralph Norman & Rep. Jim Costa Lead Bipartisan Effort Concerning 
Deficient Rail Service's Role in Fertilizer, Grain and Feed Shortage 
Affecting American Farmers--U.S. Representative Ralph Norman 
(house.gov)
    \5\ https://www.wsj.com/articles/poultry-farm-says-millions-of-
chickens-could-starve-from-rail-delays-11673054052
    \6\ See the November 22nd, 2022 Notice issued by the Surface 
Transportation Board entitled: ``Oversight Hearing Pertaining to Union 
Pacific Railroad Company Embargoes'', Docket No. EP 772. Accessed at 
https://www.stb.gov/proceedings-actions/search-stb-records/.
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    The rise in service problems and complaints from customers are not 
affecting the railroads' bottom line, though. The Class I railroads 
have achieved record profits--more than over $160 billion since 2015. 
In nominal terms, these profits are more than even what the railroads 
made at the height of their robber baron days in the 19th century.
    Last week, Union Pacific announced that despite these service 
challenges, or perhaps because of them, they still managed to make a 
record profit in 2022 of $7 billion, up from $6.5 billion in 2021.\8\ 
CSX and Norfolk Southern (NS) also announced record profits in 2022 of 
$4.17 billion \9\ and $4.8 billion \10\ respectively. The current trend 
in the industry is clear: rail service gets worse, capacity and 
workforce gets slashed, while the railroads make record profits year 
after year and the American people and businesses pay the price.
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230124.htm
    \9\ https://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-us/media/press-releases/
csx-corp-announces-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2022-results/
    \10\ https://nscorp.mediaroom.com/2023-01-25-Norfolk-Southern-
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    To achieve these profits for their shareholders' benefit, the 
railroads have stripped their rail networks of their human and physical 
capital. Fundamentally, that is how PSR works--it seeks to make the 
railroads and their shareholders the most money possible by achieving 
the lowest possible operating ratios (a railroad's expenses as a 
percentage of revenue).
    Since 2015, the Class I railroads have collectively laid off 45,000 
workers, which is the equivalent of 30% of their total workforce. 
Simultaneously, the railroads slashed their investments in physical 
infrastructure like railroad tracks and sold off or sidelined essential 
equipment. For example, in its latest financial disclosures, UP stated 
that since 2015 it had reduced its rail locomotive fleet by 11% and the 
number of freight cars by 21% and only managed to keep 62% of its 
remaining locomotives and 80% of its freight cars in service in 
2021.\11\ Collectively, the four largest railroads in the United States 
(BNSF, UP, NS, CSX) have cut $32 billion in capital expenditures since 
2015 versus their expected 2015 baseline. These decreases do not 
account for the inflation that has happened since that time, which 
makes the decline in investment even worse.
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    That decline in private investment from the railroads is in stark 
contrast to the $66 billion in record investments in freight and 
passenger rail infrastructure in the IIJA. TTD urges Members of 
Congress to consider this point with the seriousness it deserves. Not 
only are the railroads driving up costs for Members' constituents back 
home for the benefit of their shareholders alone, but now the American 
people are being asked to further pad the profits of this industry with 
their tax dollar supported federal investment. There is not a single 
Member of Congress or American who shouldn't be outraged by this.
    The bottom line is that the freight railroads are failing their 
customers by not providing the level of service their customers need. 
And the railroad CEOs admit that.\12\
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    \12\ ``I was a customer for a couple decades. Our customers don't 
really love us.'' New CSX CEO Joe Hinrichs, September 26th 2022. See 
New CSX CEO pledges to improve service and company culture--Trains
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    Both labor unions and the railroads agree that the first stepping 
stone to better freight rail service is to hire more workers. It is not 
physically possible to move the same amount of volume of goods with 30% 
fewer workers. The railroads claim they are trying to hire more workers 
but they have not made near enough progress. Employment levels as of 
December 2022 across all the Class I railroads, except Canadian Pacific 
(CP), are below their pre-pandemic levels.\13\ Most rail crafts are 
also below their pre-pandemic levels, with maintenance of equipment and 
stores employees more than 20% below pre-pandemic levels and train and 
engine transportation employment levels currently 3% below pre-pandemic 
levels.\14\ The one exception is executives, which are 5% above their 
pre-pandemic levels.\15\
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    \13\ 49 CFR employment data, EP 770 employment data, and EP 724 
service data that the STB collects. 49 CFR and EP 770 employment data 
can be found in the Urgent Issues Employment Data report found at 
https://www.stb.gov/reports-data/economic-data/employment-data/
#Urgent%20Issues%20Employment%20Data. EP 724 data can be found in the 
Service Issues Data report found at https://www.stb.gov/reports-data/
rail-service-data/.
    \14\ Ibid
    \15\ Ibid
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    Furthermore, the railroads' training programs for new workers are 
falling woefully short. In order to replace employees that have been 
voluntarily or involuntarily separated from the railroads, there would 
need to be more employees graduating from those training programs than 
there are employees being separated. The Federal Railroad 
Administration (FRA) conducted an analysis of Class I training data 
from the last eight months of 2022. In six of the eight months, the 
number of employees graduating from training programs did not keep up 
with the number of employees separated from the four largest Class I 
railroads (BNSF, UP, CSX, NS).\16\
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    While the railroads' targeted hiring campaigns and incentive 
programs to boost the number of new hirings are certainly welcomed, the 
ongoing exodus of highly-skilled and experienced rail workers who have 
decades of knowledge and the resulting consequences greatly outweighs 
the limited amount of new hiring the railroads have done.
    TTD and its rail unions will continue to fight to address the 
horrific conditions rail workers face on a daily basis like a lack of 
paid sick leave \17\, draconian attendance policies \18\, increased 
safety issues \19\, and an inability to get time off for medical 
appointments that risk workers' health.\20\ Rail workers deserve paid 
sick leave--it is the morally right and just thing to do. TTD and our 
unions are forever grateful to the 221 House members and 52 Senators 
last Congress who stood with the rail workers in their fight for paid 
sick leave. We are equally as disappointed in those lawmakers who stood 
with wealthy railroad CEOs at the expense of working people. However, 
sick leave and the other problems mentioned above are symptoms of the 
underlying disease, which is PSR. Even if these issues are addressed, 
they will not wholly fix the fundamentally broken freight rail system. 
The underlying freight railroad operating model needs to be changed in 
order to restore a healthy freight rail system.\21\
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    \17\ For Rail Workers, Anger Persists Over Sick Leave--The New York 
Times (nytimes.com)
    \18\ Railroads' workplace attendance policies at the heart of labor 
dispute--NPR
    \19\ https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article268941917.html
    \20\ In rail strike showdown, death of worker helped stoke anger--
The Washington Post
    \21\ https://ttd.org/policy/getting-our-nations-freight-rail-
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    Since the freight railroads refuse to fix the mess they've created, 
it is going to take action from Congress and federal regulators such as 
the STB and the FRA to solve the problems that still exist in the 
freight rail industry today that threaten not only our country's supply 
chain, but our economy as a whole.
    The long-term health of our freight rail industry, which impacts 
our entire supply chain and economy, is in peril. TTD and the whole of 
rail labor stand ready to work with every member of this Committee to 
fix our once great freight rail system.
To Meet Demand in the Trucking Workforce, We Must Ensure that Trucking 
                           Jobs are Good Jobs
    Participants in today's hearing are likely to point toward the 
purported ``truck driver shortage'' as a contributor to last year's 
supply chain challenges and as the impetus for future legislative and 
regulatory action. While there are certainly instances of trucking 
companies reporting difficulties in hiring and retaining drivers, we 
reject the notion of a workforce shortage out of hand. As discussed in 
our April 2022 policy statement on the topic, there is no shortage of 
workers. There is a shortage of employers offering good jobs that offer 
people who are eager to work the dignity they deserve, and they are fed 
up.\22\
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    It is incumbent on our partners in government to conduct a more 
rigorous analysis of the practices in the trucking industry that drive 
workers away from their jobs and make it harder and harder to keep pace 
with demand. Shockingly, in recent years, the long-haul trucking sector 
has experienced approximately 90% turnover on an annual basis. Yet, 
according to a recent publication by the American Trucking Association, 
``high turnover is an indicator of driver empowerment'' and not a 
blaring alarm necessitating self-reflection on industry practices.\23\ 
I cannot imagine a more flippant response to this problem of their own 
making.
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    While a convenient political narrative for the industry, it is a 
woefully incomplete understanding of the economic and quality of life 
issues facing the nation's truck drivers. Long hours, time away from 
home, rampant misclassification of drivers under labor law, predatory 
vehicle leasing schemes, and inadequate real wages all serve to 
discourage new drivers from entering the industry and making a career 
of driving.
    In short--Congress should focus its efforts on fundamental changes 
to the industry that improve the quality of jobs and working conditions 
and promote economic fairness. The answer will not be found in reducing 
licensure or training standards, including irresponsible efforts to 
address ``shortages'' of unsafe teenage drivers. The answer is 
similarly not found in allowing companies to overwork drivers through 
hours of service expansions or encouraging and protecting predatory 
employment models.
    To this end, we commend the Biden administration's swift actions 
last year to implement its Trucking Action Plan, including the 
expansion of registered apprenticeships as a high-quality and proven 
recruitment and retention strategy and allowing these programs to be 
stood up rapidly.
Keys to Developing a Healthy Supply Chain in the Longshore and Maritime 
                                 Sector
    Despite the pandemic's challenges, our nation's ports are clear of 
supply congestion and mostly back to pre-COVID levels. At this time 
last year, there were more than 100 container ships stuck waiting off 
Los Angeles and Long Beach, California ports, with around 150 
containers from all North American ports combined. Today, almost zero 
ships are waiting off the Pacific and very few off the East and Gulf 
coasts. Remember that there were never issues at our ports, but 
instead, more capacity was needed on the rail and trucking side once 
containers were offloaded. Longshore workers' productivity shattered 
records throughout the pandemic, and rail and trucking infrastructure 
couldn't keep up the same pace.
    Additionally, the international ocean shipping industry is 
dominated by foreign-owned companies that have greatly increased their 
profits during the pandemic. The consequences of the U.S.' dependence 
on foreign vessels and foreign goods greatly affect American 
agricultural cargo and our manufacturing exports.
    Transportation Labor believes the key to developing a healthy 
supply chain is the continued application of the Jones Act to the 
movement of waterborne commerce in the domestic trades and the greater 
utilization of U.S.-flagged and U.S.-crewed vessels in America's 
foreign trades. The United States needs greater self-reliance in ocean 
shipping and must act with urgency to reverse the dangerous dependency 
on foreign flag vessels to carry more than 98 percent of America's 
exports and imports. Because our domestic maritime industry has 
dedicated terminals, equipment, and longstanding partnerships in U.S. 
ports, Jones Act vessels have been able to deliver goods without the 
outsized increases in freight rates, disruptions, and service 
challenges wrought by foreign cargo vessels during the pandemic. 
Without the Jones Act, domestic waterborne commerce would similarly be 
controlled by foreign vessels. We've seen the ramifications play out 
throughout the pandemic as almost all global ocean freight shipping is 
controlled by foreign companies that have raised prices for American 
businesses and consumers while threatening our national security and 
economic competitiveness.
    TTD urges Congress and the administration to fully enforce, fund, 
and enhance the policies and programs necessary to support the 
operation of U.S.-flag vessels in the foreign trades. This will ensure 
that a greater portion of America's trade will be controlled by 
American vessels and their American crews, lessening the opportunity 
for foreign flag vessels to dictate the terms and conditions governing 
ocean transportation. This will also reduce the serious maritime 
seagoing workforce shortage caused in large measure by the pandemic and 
help guarantee that this segment of the maritime industry will remain 
available to provide the commercial sealift readiness capability relied 
upon by the Department of Defense. We also call on Congress and the 
Administration to take the necessary steps to facilitate the 
construction and operation of Jones Act vessels as part of a new, 
expanded marine highway system along America's coasts. Creating a fleet 
of U.S.-built, U.S.-flagged, and crewed feeder vessels to carry a 
portion of America's trade along our coasts to be offloaded in 
underutilized ports for transportation by truck and rail to their 
ultimate inland destination will not only strengthen the maritime 
industry and create jobs aboard ship and in our ports but will help 
mitigate against future shipping supply chain disruptions.
   The US Aviation Sector Should not be Undermined by Unfair Foreign 
                               Practices
    Often overlooked in these discussions is the amount of freight 
cargo moved by aviation in America every year. Last year, it was 
16,047.526 million in revenue ton-miles \24\. Therefore, we must also 
work to ensure that our aviation sector remains competitive and is not 
undermined by unfair foreign practices. For example, as air travel 
resumes internationally, the U.S. government should consider the 
substantial competitive and safety issues posed by a resumption of 
flying by Chinese air carriers. China suspended its bilateral air 
services agreement with the United States and has dictated the terms 
for U.S. carrier operation in the region, including the draconian 
treatment of U.S. flight crew. We urge the federal government to pursue 
a phased approach to flight restoration, a focus on crew treatment and 
ensure that the lack of U.S. airline use of Russian airspace does not 
place our carriers at a disadvantage.
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Strengthen American Manufacturing and Supply Chain Resiliency to Boost 
                      our Economic Competitiveness
    We commend the administration and President Biden on signing an 
Executive Order (EO) in January 2021 that tasked the U.S. government 
with using federal financial assistance awards and procurements to 
maximize production in the United States. The EO will require a new 
domestic manufacturing initiative to strengthen U.S. manufacturing 
exports and is essential to building long-term resilience across 
critical supply chains, especially as the government implements the 
IIJA, our country's most significant investment in modernizing the 
transportation systems on which our supply chains depend. The IIJA 
includes an expansion of Buy America rules that were supported for 
years by this committee, paving the way for the inclusion of the Build 
America, Buy America (BABA) Act in the IIJA. BABA enhances DOT's 
existing Buy America requirements by applying domestic content 
preferences for iron, steel, manufactured products, and construction 
materials to all federal aid assistance infrastructure projects.
    TTD has expressed concerns with DOT's pace of implementation, given 
that it has been over a year since the IIJA was enacted and over eight 
months since the BABA statutory implementation deadline on May 14, 
2022. TTD has expressed concerns with DOT's proposed adoption of new 
general waiver policies that would carve out large amounts of federal 
infrastructure money from the BABA requirements. These investments have 
been necessary for many years, and America's factory workers are ready, 
willing, and able to meet the country's needs if given the opportunity. 
Congress was clear that the era of flagrant misuse of waivers and 
egregious loopholes was over. The law intended to enhance Buy America, 
not weaken existing policies. We urge the committee and administration 
to ensure the durability of these landmark provisions is appropriately 
implemented.
    In addition to the EO, the CHIPS and Science Act passage last year 
was another historic win for American workers and our economy, adding 
more resiliency to America's supply chain. The legislation is a 
necessary long-term investment to ensure America maintains an edge 
abroad and will revitalize domestic manufacturing and workforce 
development at home. But unless there are strong worker protections to 
ensure high-quality jobs with a free and fair choice to join a union, 
the tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer investments in 
semiconductor factories will amount to a blank check to Big Tech. These 
federal investments need to be tied to binding and enforceable 
commitments to workers and communities to make sure the economic 
benefits are shared broadly and equitably and can strengthen the middle 
class by creating high-quality union jobs.
     Long Overdue Investments Made by Congress is Already Making a 
                         Significant Difference
    Finally, we must acknowledge the powerful impact the IIJA has 
already had--and will continue to have for years to come--as we make 
generational and long overdue investments across our entire 
transportation network, including key bottlenecks for the movement of 
goods. Already, there are 7,000 IIJA projects underway. That includes 
3,800 bridge projects, improvements to nearly 70,000 miles of roads and 
highways, and the largest-ever dedicated investment in our ports.
    Just this week, the DOT announced $1.2 billion from the new 
National Infrastructure Project Assistance (MEGA) discretionary grant 
program for nine projects across the country. These projects will 
create jobs, grow the economy, strengthen supply chains, improve 
mobility for residents, and make our transportation systems safer for 
all users. These desperately needed federal investments are not 
cynically red state or blue state projects for the sake of political 
expediency. They are being made wherever the need is most significant. 
Consider the importance of the following projects for today's hearing:
      $250 million for Brent Spence Bridge improvements 
(Cincinnati, OH, and Covington, KY): This critical freight corridor 
over the Ohio River sees over $400 billion in freight movement annually 
and is among the worst truck bottlenecks in the nation. The MEGA award 
is in addition to a $1.38 billion Large Bridge Grant that was announced 
in early January. Together, this generational investment will support 
critical improvements to the Brent Spence Bridge and fund construction 
of a new bridge alongside the existing bridge to relieve congestion and 
improve travel time reliability--supporting the regional economy.
      $150 million to replace the I-10 Calcasieu River Bridge 
(Calcasieu Parish, LA): The existing bridge, constructed before the 
Interstate Highway System, is structurally and functionally deficient, 
resulting in significant freight bottlenecks, despite its location on 
one of the most important domestic freight highway corridors. The new 
bridge will relieve congestion and improve regional mobility, supply 
chain efficiency, and safety. What's more, a workforce agreement will 
be created for the project that includes ways to target jobs and 
training opportunities to underserved communities.

    The IIJA is also making historic investments in our coastal 
seaports, Great Lakes ports, and inland river ports, helping improve 
supply chain reliability through increased port capacity and 
resilience, more efficient operations, reduced port emissions, and new 
workforce opportunities. Together, these investments will help get 
goods to shelves faster and lower costs for American families. These 
investments will benefit small and large ports alike in many of your 
communities back home. Consider just one example: $1.6 million for the 
Ohio River Pier Project in Tell City, Indiana. This small port provides 
pig iron to the local foundry that helps sustain 1,000 jobs in a town 
of around 7,000 people. The project will fund construction of a 40-foot 
diameter pier for a crane that will be used for direct barge-to-truck 
unloading of cargo. Currently, when the river is too high, the pier 
cannot operate. The new design will allow the crane to operate 
regardless of water levels. This will have a significant economic 
impact for this small town and will help move goods faster and cheaper.
    I also want to highlight the funding in the rural grant program, 
which is just one part of the IIJA's commitments to rural America and 
will play a significant role in improving our supply chain in every 
corner of this country. Smaller communities have some of the greatest 
needs when it comes to better roads, bridges, and other infrastructure 
needs. Projects like the I-64 Widening Project in Kent County, Virginia 
will add a third lane in each direction, widen shoulders, add rumble 
strips, and add wider and flatter clear zones in each direction of I-
64. These investments will improve safety, efficiency, and reliability 
along what is known as the I-64 Innovation Corridor, supporting access 
to more than 1 million jobs in the region.
    Other discretionary grant investments--like those being made in the 
INFRA and RAISE grant programs--and funding through formula grants are 
finally working to meet the demand that has gone unmet for far too long 
in this country across our entire transportation network. While I know 
some of you did not support the IIJA, I hope you will reflect on the 
benefits it is delivering to your communities and that we can work 
together regardless of political affiliation in the future to ensure 
that we don't find ourselves once again dealing with the effects of 
underinvestment in all of our communities.
                             Looking Ahead
    As Congress and the administration continue to work to solve the 
ongoing challenges and prevent future interruptions of this magnitude, 
we call on you to work closely with supply chain employees and their 
union representatives across the nation to develop long and short-term 
solutions to the supply chain crisis.
    We also call on you to reject ill-conceived efforts to hijack the 
crisis to attack supply chain workers and their industries. Pursuing a 
more efficient supply chain cannot be an excuse to eliminate or 
deconstruct critical regulatory safeguards, such as fatigue 
protections, or to water down carefully crafted training and 
qualification requirements. In particular, we strenuously oppose 
legislation that seeks to amend long-standing labor law to deny 
collective bargaining rights. Transportation labor views any such 
efforts as an unwarranted and deeply misguided assault on employees in 
the supply chain who continue to work tirelessly to keep the economy 
and the flow of commerce moving.
    TTD thanks the Committee for the opportunity to testify today on 
the state of our supply chain. We look forward to continuing to work 
together to foster more resilient freight transportation industries 
well into the future.

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you very much.
    Now we will open it up for questions from the committee. We 
will start with Mr. Crawford.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I ask unanimous consent to submit a letter for the record 
from The Fertilizer Institute on their concerns about supply 
chain challenges.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
  from Corey Rosenbusch, President and CEO, The Fertilizer Institute, 
       Submitted for the Record by Hon. Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford
                                                  February 1, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 2167 Rayburn House 
        Office Building, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 2164 Rayburn House 
        Office Building, Washington, DC 20515.

Via Electronic Mail

Re:  Hearing on ``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply 
Chain Challenges''

    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    Thank you for holding today's hearing regarding ``The State of 
Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges.'' The 
Fertilizer Institute (TFI) appreciates the opportunity to share 
information on what has been an extraordinarily challenging couple of 
years for fertilizer shippers.
    TFI represents companies that are engaged in all aspects of the 
fertilizer supply chain in the United States. The fertilizer industry 
ensures that farmers receive the nutrients they need to enrich the soil 
and, in turn, grow the crops that feed our nation and the world. 
Fertilizer is a key ingredient in feeding a growing global population, 
which is expected to surpass 9.5 billion people by 2050. Half of all 
food grown around the world is made possible through the use of 
fertilizer, hence its importance to farmers and food production. The 
U.S. fertilizer industry generates more than $130 billion in economic 
benefit each year and supports approximately 487,000 American jobs.
    In terms of logistics, virtually every mode is critical. Fertilizer 
moves year-round. Although there is a two- to three-week window when 
most crops are planted and fertilized, continuous production and 
transportation to storage locations throughout the year is necessary to 
ensure sufficient supplies during application periods. While the 
timeliness of shipments is more sensitive in the Spring planting 
season, the volume of shipments is virtually the same each quarter of 
the year. The transportation of fertilizer from producer to storage to 
farmer can involve truck, barge, pipeline, rail or some combination of 
two or more modes. In terms of ton-miles, 63% moves by rail; 15% by 
truck; and 17% by barge. While it moves shorter distances by truck, all 
fertilizer touches a truck at least once in its journey to the farm. 
For ammonia--a critical fertilizer and building block for three-fourths 
of all fertilizers--60% of ton-miles move by pipeline.
    There have been several bipartisan successes of recent years that 
Congress should build upon. The bipartisan Infrastructure Investment 
and Jobs Act provided crucial investments for roadways, inland 
navigation, and rural broadband. Last year, Congress approved the Water 
Resources Development Act of 2022, which among other priorities, 
permanently modified a cost-share change to promote enhanced funding 
for critical inland navigation projects. Congress also acted to prevent 
a rail network shutdown, which would have devastated our economy.
    TFI urges Congress to consider the following infrastructure 
priorities.
      Rail Policy: While a rail strike would have been 
catastrophic, rail service was also highly problematic last year. Rail 
carriers must do better, and they can start by hiring more employees so 
they can reasonably comply with their common carrier obligation (CCO). 
Rail shippers typically do not have any competitive options. Promoting 
rail competition is a sensible market-based incentive to encourage a 
more customer-focused industry that currently enjoys grossly unbalanced 
market power. Congress should consider clarifying the CCO and it should 
support the Surface Transportation Board as it modernizes its outdated 
oversight.
      Motor Carriers: The fertilizer industry relies on 
commercial drivers for ``just in time'' delivery to their farmer 
customers. Trucking capacity is a serious challenge. The vaccine 
mandate on transporters of essential commerce should be eliminated. 
Driver apprenticeship programs should be promoted. Hours of service 
(HOS) regulations should be streamlined and reformed. Capacity can also 
be improved through efficiency gains. For example, the current Gross 
Vehicle Weight (GVW) limit for Federal Interstate Highways of 80,000 
lbs. on 5 axles was established in 1982, prior to the standardization 
of anti-lock brakes and other roadway safety improvements. Outdated 
weight restrictions make U.S. farmers and businesses less competitive 
and require MORE trucks to travel on roadways to haul the same amount 
of goods, making matters worse for infrastructure wear-and-tear and 
trucking capacity (driver shortage).
      Waterways: One-fifth of fertilizer movements rely on 
inland navigation while exports of agricultural goods comprise 20 
percent of farm income and support more than 1 million jobs. Our 
nation's locks and dams are in urgent need of maintenance and 
modernization. Most locks and dams were built in the 1920s and 1930s 
and have far exceeded their 50-year design lifespan. In the past 
decade, there has been a 700 percent increase in unscheduled stoppages 
for repairs.
      Pipelines: The U.S. pipeline system in the United States 
is critical to fertilizer manufacturers. Currently there are two 
ammonia pipelines in the United States. Manufacturers utilize pipelines 
to transport anhydrous ammonia from production facilities to high-
utilization regions in the corn belt and from the Port of Tampa to 
phosphate production facilities in Florida. Ammonia production 
facilities also utilize substantial volumes of industrial natural gas 
for power and as a feedstock for ammonia production. Pipelines are also 
important for sequestration of carbon dioxide, which is increasingly 
being utilized to decarbonize production of ammonia.
      Critical Infrastructure and Unmanned Aircraft Systems 
(UAS): The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) should promote safe 
deployment of UAS, but it must also ensure our nation's critical 
infrastructure facilities, including fertilizer production facilities, 
are protected from unauthorized UAS activity. The federal government 
should have clear guidelines to protect our nation's critical 
infrastructure facilities and FAA should coordinate with the Department 
of Homeland Security (DHS) to promote swift and effective responses to 
unauthorized UAS activity.

    Thank you again for holding today's hearing and for the opportunity 
to submit this statement. TFI looks forward to working with the 118th 
Congress. Should you have any questions, please reach out to Justin 
Louchheim of my staff.
        Sincerely,
                                          Corey Rosenbusch,
                       President and CEO, The Fertilizer Institute.

    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I thank the panelists for being here today. I want to start 
with you, Mr. Spear. Looking back at the COVID-19 pandemic, in 
your estimation, what could the Federal Government have done 
better to manage the public health concerns, at the same time 
maintaining the continuity of our supply chain?
    Mr. Spear. How much time do you have?
    Mr. Crawford. Yes.
    Mr. Spear. Seriously, I think--look, it is our first time 
all of us together dealing with a global pandemic. I mean, 
there were a lot of things thrown at our country, our economy, 
our industry that we had to adjust to very quickly in order to 
make certain that store shelves had milk, eggs, bread; gas 
stations had fuel. It then became the rush to get PPE, test 
kits, certainly the vaccine itself. That was moved largely by 
truck.
    And our industry stepped up to the plate when a lot of 
people stayed at home not knowing what impact this would have 
on their health, their family's health, real concerns. And 
isolated in the cab, with those risks still in their minds, 
they still got in the cab, they still drove those loads to 
where they needed to be. They were the glue, certainly in the 
early weeks and months of the pandemic.
    And I think the inclusiveness of Government and industry to 
solve problems of this magnitude is absolutely essential. I can 
point to things where we had a lot of conflict between our 
Government and the Government of Canada. And our inability to 
match bearings with public safety and health policy to get our 
trucks across the line, their largest trading partner. We are 
dependent on one another. And it just took two governments 
sitting down to hammer that out, and they didn't do it.
    So, that is leadership. And I am not pointing fingers. It 
is just a reality that has an impact, on an industry like ours, 
to serve the populous, to serve society on the basic needs that 
they have to have.
    I think that, when we looked at the OSHA announcement to 
require vaccines for employers with more than 100 employees, 
and my background coming off Senate Labor Committee, OSHA at 
DOL, we knew, my team and I, that they did not have the 
authority to do that. We did not want to go to court. That was 
something that we certainly could have sat down and worked out 
but would have ended up litigating it. It went to the Supreme 
Court, 6-3 decision, you know the outcome. A lot of wasted time 
on issues that we really should be sitting down and working 
collectively toward.
    But I can also point to a lot of good that came out of it 
as well. I drove many instances across the country. We have a 
home in Wyoming. Seeing those billboards out in the cornfields 
thanking a trucker, seeing the banners fly off the overpasses, 
our drivers getting off an interstate and being met by a police 
officer to escort them to where they can get a hot meal and a 
shower. Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts, church groups handing out 
baked goods at rest areas. Our image climbed to a level not 
even known possible.
    Mr. Crawford. On that note, Mr. Spear, I would say that you 
did this at a time when the trucking industry was suffering and 
continues to suffer through a massive driver deficit.
    Mr. Spear. Yes.
    Mr. Crawford. And on that note, I share your support as you 
outlined in your testimony, make it easier for our constituents 
to choose a career in the trucking industry, such as ensuring 
that 18- to 20-year-old drivers have a CDL, can work across 
State lines. I know you have been supportive of that in the 3-
year pilot program that was included in the IIJA.
    How is that implementation going?
    Mr. Spear. It is like everything in this town: slow, slower 
than we would like. But we have grown accustomed to it. I do 
think this program is going to bear fruit. We worked really 
hard in this committee to create a bipartisan understanding of 
this block of talent, 18 to 20. But I am also mindful, as you 
understand, that 49 States already allow an 18-year-old to 
drive a class 8, they just can't cross State lines. Now, that 
works pretty good from Redding, California, down to San Diego. 
Twenty minutes outside of Providence, Rhode Island, not so 
much.
    What we need to do is have good training and technology. 
None of the 49 States do that. This program that was put into 
the IIJA does. So, we need to teach young talent how to safely 
and responsibly operate this equipment. Inserting an issue like 
forward-facing cameras, that was not part of the deal. That was 
not in the bill. And it is going to cause--that is a matter, by 
the way, that most companies and their employees should 
negotiate out. Having a camera in your face every minute of 
every hour of every workday, that is not in the bill, and it is 
going to limit companies from joining this program and putting 
young talent in a capacity where they can replace our aging 
workforce.
    So, this is a concern. Oversight is needed. I applaud you 
for shedding some light on this. We need to follow the law that 
you handed the agency. And so, that is one area where I think 
it is going to serve as a bit of a headwind in getting this 
program off of the ground.
    Mr. Crawford. I appreciate it. My time has expired.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you.
    Mr. Larsen.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    First question is for Mr. Spear. First, I want to recognize 
on page 2 in your testimony in paragraph 3, your recognition 
that this debt limit debate could have existential threats to 
our economy and certainly to spending on investments on our 
infrastructure, if infrastructure spending gets wrapped up in 
this debate. So, I want to recognize that.
    My question, though--and I am going to put up a graphic 
here, if I could have the staff put up the graphic.
    So, in your testimony, on page 5--it will get there--on 
page 5, you note the December 16, 2021, memo from the DOT and 
your concerns that the guidance will force money into fixing 
infrastructure first as opposed to highway expansion. This 
graphic does show in fiscal year 2021, about $8.1 billion--this 
is Federal Highway Administration numbers--$8.1 billion in 2021 
to highway expansion or reducing congestion.
    [Slide shown.]

                                 
           Slide Submitted for the Record by Hon. Rick Larsen
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    Mr. Larsen of Washington. The memo comes out. The fiscal 
year 2022 number is about 25 percent higher. It is not lower. 
It is not an indication that the memo had much of an impact, if 
any impact at all, in the State's ability--any State's ability 
to invest in expansion or reducing congestion. And then we have 
4 more years left on the BIL.
    So, if you could help me understand the basis of your 
argument when at least the early numbers show that is not the 
case. Now, I will say, the jury is still out, but right now, I 
think you ought to take a plea deal on your argument.
    Mr. Spear. Well, I appreciate that. I am not there yet. 
Candidly, I think this is trending. It is encouraging, but it 
also begs the question: Why have the memo at all? Why have the 
memo at all? Why do we have to draw lines between new and 
existing infrastructure?
    The emphasis and concern that we have is, within the top 
100 bottlenecks, which we provide you every year, we track it 
every year based on GPS data, shows by speed where are the 
worst bottlenecks. Start with that and let's address them.
    What we don't want to have is really nice roads and 
bridges, and we are still sitting on them going nowhere. We 
need truck lanes. We need parking. We need new bridges. We need 
more capacity to move the freight. We are burning fuel, and we 
are emitting CO2 just sitting there. That is the concern. If 
this trends continues, I can see that being resolved, but I 
don't see any need for the memo.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. And I think that is a fair 
concern. When you look at the competitive grants the 
administration has included with regards to highway expansion, 
in 2022, $225 million through the RAISE program, $1.3 billion 
through the Mega, INFRA, and Rural grant programs were awarded 
that include highway expansion as well. So, it does seem to be 
headed that way.
    And, Mr. Firth, good friends who are members of the AGC in 
Washington State, so, this is certainly not an anti-Oregon 
question. I want to clarify that immediately for you.
    But given these numbers and the AGC's argument on highway 
expansion versus--in Washington State, we call fix it first 
preservation and maintenance. I believe we actually do need to 
preserve and maintain our existing infrastructure, as well as 
invest in new infrastructure.
    Can you address what you see in these numbers and what AGC 
might respond?
    Mr. Firth. Yes. This is the first time I have seen these 
numbers.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Sure, I understand.
    Mr. Firth. But 80 percent of the funding is already on fix 
and repair of existing infrastructure and everything. And the 
way I look at it is, our infrastructure is over 50 years old 
and it needs to be repaired. And I think having States having 
that flexibility to decide what is best for their process or 
what their needs are will be good. Having a one-size-fits-all 
policy I don't think is very practical.
    As I was flying yesterday from Oregon over, and I am flying 
over Montana and South Dakota, and I am just thinking of what 
their needs are versus Oregon or Washington's.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes. Sure. Well, I appreciate 
that. In Washington State, 21 percent of our transportation 
package the past year was funded through the IIJA over the next 
several years. And Washington State tends to use that money for 
preservation and maintenance because we have the third highest 
gas tax in the country. Now, we are tied for lowest income tax 
in the country as well, zero. So, there is a tradeoff. That is 
our particular experience. But I think the numbers are starting 
to show that the memo is having no impact. So, maybe there is a 
concern about why it was issued at all, but still I think the 
concerns being expressed don't really seem to yet match the 
reality.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Mr. Webster.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guenther, does the port have any problems dealing with 
permitting or other forms of restraint when you are trying to 
upgrade or maintain your infrastructure?
    Mr. Guenther. Regarding our channels that I spoke about, 
obviously those are Federal projects, and we are the non-
Federal sponsor working with the Corps of Engineers to get 
those going. We need to--those are the investments that I am 
talking about that we need to do.
    As far as permitting for our ports, seaports that we invest 
in, the ports are investing in, our dollars, permitting is not 
an exorbitant amount of strain on that relationship there. But 
we need to focus on the moneys that are allocated to the Corps 
of Engineers from the Federal Government to make sure that we 
are moving forward with these projects and so that we stay 
ahead of what these needs are for serving our seaports with 
deeper and wider channels, and maintain channels, the 
maintenance of those channels to deliver the goods.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. So, is there something Congress 
could do to speed up--I know the Corps is sometimes hard to 
move--but we could speed up or help with those, or is there 
some funding issue or other things that need to be done in 
order to get the channels open?
    Mr. Guenther. Sure. And we really focus on, again, the 
operation and maintenance funding. For instance, the Houston 
Ship Channel hasn't been at its authorized depth and width that 
it was authorized for for many years due to the lack of 
operation and maintenance funding. It typically takes, in our 
channel, for instance, $50 million, $60 million a year to keep 
it properly maintained, and we get far less than that--the 
Corps gets far less than that to put in their work plan to keep 
it maintained.
    And we are in that situation now that we have been 
underfunded for years, and we are about to a point where we are 
going to become draft restricted again, which we have been in 
the past. And what that means, it puts a tremendous burden. The 
vessels are light-loaded. It puts more cost on the goods that 
are to be shipped, and it is passed along to the consumer 
ultimately.
    So, I would stress the emphasis on making sure that our 
channels that are most critical in terms of tonnage in serving 
the supply chain, make sure that those channels are funded for 
operation and maintenance.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. So, what depth are they approved 
to?
    Mr. Guenther. Well, our particular channel, we are 
authorized to an operating depth of 45 feet. Without going into 
detail, typically they will have some advanced maintenance on 
that. But several times--and we are about to get to that point, 
because there is not enough money in the Corps work plan right 
now to maintain the channel, that we are about to be draft 
restricted, probably as early as March.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. So, what is the depth you are at, 
then, that you get to?
    Mr. Guenther. Well, it is at 45 feet, but as the channel 
silts up, it is going to be restricted to maybe a foot or two. 
And a foot is a tremendous amount of cost to the 9,000 ships 
that come and go in the Houston Ship Channel every year that 
are restricted.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. So, the idea is just more dredging?
    Mr. Guenther. Yes. Directing operation and maintenance 
funds to our channels.
    Mr. Webster of Florida. Thank you very much. I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Eleanor.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    First, I would like to submit into the record a letter from 
the Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety that outlines 
important issues of trucking safety.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
from Catherine Chase, President, Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety, 
         Submitted for the Record by Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton
                                                  January 31, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves, Chair,
The Honorable Rick Larsen, Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
United States House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    As you prepare for tomorrow's hearing, ``The State of 
Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges,'' Advocates 
for Highway and Auto Safety (Advocates) urges you to prioritize safety 
in policies and legislation involving our nation's roadway 
infrastructure, commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) and the supply chain. 
We respectfully request this letter be included in the hearing record.
    Fatal Truck Crashes Continue to Occur at an Alarmingly High Rate
    In 2021, over 5,600 people were killed in crashes involving a large 
truck.\1\ Since 2009, the number of fatalities in large truck crashes 
has increased by 66 percent.\2\ Additionally, nearly 147,000 people 
were injured in crashes involving a large truck in 2020.\3\ New data 
finds that in the first six months of 2022, traffic fatalities in 
crashes involving at least one large truck are up 10 percent; 2,811 
people were killed.\4\ The cost to society from crashes involving large 
trucks and buses was estimated to be $143 billion in 2019, the latest 
year for which data is available.\5\ When adjusted solely for 
inflation, this figure amounts to over $156 billion.\6\
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    \1\ Traffic Safety Facts: Crash Stats; Early Estimates of Motor 
Vehicle Traffic Fatalities and Fatality Rate by Sub-Categories in 2021, 
NHTSA, May 2022, DOT HS 813 298.
    \2\ Id. and Traffic Safety Facts 2019: A Compilations of Motor 
Vehicle Crash Data, NHTSA, Aug. 2021, DOT HS 813 141. Note, the 66 
percent figure represents the overall change in the number of 
fatalities in large truck involved crashes from 2009 to 2021. However, 
between 2015 and 2016 there was a change in data collection at U.S. DOT 
that could affect this calculation. From 2009 to 2015 the number of 
fatalities in truck involved crashes increased by 21 percent and 
between 2016 to 2021, it increased by 20 percent.
    \3\ Traffic Safety Facts, 2020 Data: Large Trucks, NHTSA, Apr. 
2022, DOT HS 813 286.
    \4\ National Center for Statistics and Analysis. (2022, December). 
Early estimates of motor vehicle traffic fatalities and fatality rate 
by sub-categories through June 2022 (CrashStats Brief Statistical 
Summary. Report No. DOT HS 813 405). NHTSA.
    \5\ 2022 Pocket Guide to Large Truck and Bus Statistics, FMCSA, 
Dec. 2022, RRA-22-007.
    \6\ CPI Inflation Calculator, BLS, available at https://
www.bls.gov/data/inflation_
calculator.htm.
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Weakening Essential Safety Regulations Endangers Truck Drivers and the 
                                 Public
    Issues involving the nation's supply chain have highlighted 
problems that members of the trucking industry have not effectively 
addressed for decades including high turnover rates for drivers and 
poor working conditions. We urge the Committee to reject the following 
proposals that fail to address the root of these issues and will 
jeopardize all road users.
    ``Teen Truckers'' are a substantial threat to public safety. Some 
segments of the trucking industry have been pushing to allow teenagers 
to operate CMVs in interstate commerce for at least 20 years, often 
relying on their own forecasts for the number of drivers needed as a 
rationale. These projections have consistently failed to 
materialize.\7\
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    \7\ FMCSA Document ID: 2000-84100-0782. American Trucking 
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    The trucking industry continues to face a driver retention crisis, 
not a driver shortage. In fact, a March 2019 U.S. Bureau of Labor 
Statistics (BLS) analysis found that ``the labor market for truck 
drivers works about as well as the labor markets for other blue-collar 
occupations'' and ``a deeper look [at the truck industry labor market] 
does not find evidence of a secular shortage.'' \8\ Rather, industry 
data shows driver turnover at some carriers is near 90 percent.\9\ As 
U.S. Department of Transportation (U.S. DOT) Secretary Pete Buttigieg 
noted, such a high rate of turnover is indicative that there are some 
real issues with the quality of the job of driving a truck.\10\ In 
addition, states issue more than 450,000 new commercial driver licenses 
(CDLs) each year demonstrating that there are candidates to fill 
vacancies.\11\ Instead of proposing initiatives that will degrade 
public safety, the industry should be focused on addressing the 
retention issues through improved, safe working conditions.
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    \8\ United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics, 
Is the U.S. labor market for truck drivers broken? (Mar. 2019).
    \9\ American Trucking Associations, Fourth Quarter Truck Driver 
Turnover Rate Shows Muddled Picture (Mar. 12, 2021).
    \10\ See: https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/transportation-
secretary-buttigieg-on-supply-chain-issues-worker-shortage-125851717987 
(Nov. 10, 2021).
    \11\ Greg Rosalsky, Is There Really A Truck Driver Shortage?, 
National Public Radio (May 25, 2021).
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    Younger drivers are demonstrated to be less safe. The Insurance 
Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), citing numerous studies, has 
stated that ``age is a strong risk factor for truck crash 
involvement.'' \12\ In fact, age is the most important factor in the 
high rate of involvement of younger CMV drivers in fatal crashes. The 
general pattern of over-involvement in fatal crashes for younger CMV 
drivers dominates all other factors. Studies of young CMV drivers show 
that as the age of the driver decreases, large truck fatal crash 
involvement rates increase.\13\
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    \12\ Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, Comments to the 
docket, FMCSA-2000-8410-0515; citing Christie, R. and Fabre, J. 1999. 
Potential for fast-tracking heavy vehicle drivers. Melbourne, 
Australia: National Road Transport Commission; Blower, D. 1996. The 
accident experience of younger truck drivers. Ann Arbor, MI: University 
of Michigan Transportation Research Institute; Frith, W.J. 1994. A 
case-control study of heavy vehicle drivers' working time and safety. 
Proceedings of the 17th Australian Road Research Board Conference, 17-
30. Queensland, Australia: Australian Road Research Board; Stein, H.S. 
and Jones, I.S. (1988).
    \13\ Campbell, K. L., Fatal Accident Involvement Rates By Driver 
Age For Large Trucks, Accid. Anal. & Prev. Vol 23, No. 4, pp. 287-295 
(1991).
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    CMV drivers under the age of 19 are four times more likely to be 
involved in fatal crashes, as compared to CMV drivers who are 21 years 
of age and older, and CMV drivers ages 19-20 are six times more likely 
to be involved in fatal crashes (compared to CMV drivers 21 years and 
older).\14\ This plain-truth reality is not surprising. Generally, 
younger drivers are more likely to be involved in fatal crashes because 
they lack driving experience and skills and tend to take greater risks. 
Development of the brain region vital to decision making and complex 
tasks, specifically the pre-frontal cortex, may not be fully reached 
until one's mid-20s.\15\ While proponents of younger truck drivers have 
justified this misguided policy proposal by citing state laws that 
allow them to operate intrastate, expanding the operations of these 
dangerous drivers extends existing safety problems while introducing 
additional safety considerations such as unfamiliar terrain and weather 
conditions.
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    \14\ Campbell, K. L., Fatal Accident Involvement Rates By Driver 
Age For Large Trucks, Accid. Anal. & Prev. Vol 23, No. 4, pp. 287-295 
(1991).
    \15\ Arian, M, et al., Maturation of the adolescent brain, 
Neuropsychiatric Disease and Treatment (Apr. 3, 2013).
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    Diverse stakeholders including safety groups, law enforcement, 
public health and consumer organizations, truck drivers, labor unions, 
some trucking companies, and truck crash victims and survivors have 
repeatedly opposed efforts to lower the age to operate CMVs in 
interstate commerce. Additionally, the public has rejected lowering the 
minimum age for interstate truck and bus drivers with 62 percent of 
respondents in opposition, according to a 2020 public opinion poll 
conducted by Engine's Caravan Survey.\16\ Furthermore, in 2001, a 
petition was filed with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration 
(FMCSA) to lower the age at which a person could obtain a CDL to 
operate in interstate commerce from 21 to 18 as part of a pilot 
program. The FMCSA declined to lower the minimum age for an 
unrestricted CDL because the agency could not conclude that the safety 
performance of younger drivers was on par with, or even close to, that 
of older CMV drivers. In comments to the docket for the petition, the 
public strongly rejected the idea with 96 percent of individuals who 
responded opposing the proposal along with 88 percent of the truck 
drivers and 86 percent of the motor carriers.\17\
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    \16\ Engine's Caravan Survey Public Opinion Poll (2020).
    \17\ Young Commercial Driver Pilot Training Program, Notice of 
denial of petition to initiate a pilot program, 68 FR 34467, 34469 
(June 9, 2003).
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    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) enacted in 
November 2021 included a provision requiring the establishment of pilot 
program to permit teen truckers to operate in interstate commerce.\18\ 
This imprudent initiative could have a drastic impact on public health, 
even more so if not executed with needed safeguards. This program is 
basically a ``science experiment'' with all road users serving 
unknowingly as ``test subjects.'' If accepted research protocols are 
not followed by FMCSA, it could result in preventable deaths and 
injuries and will also jeopardize the legitimacy of the outcomes of the 
program. Lastly, the agency's recommendations and conclusions in the 
required report to Congress must be supported by sufficient evidence 
and data collected during the program. We urge this Committee to 
execute effective oversight of this program.
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    \18\ Pub. L. 117-58, Sec.  23022 (2021).
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    Allowing teenagers to drive trucks in interstate commerce will 
worsen and expand the major problems with truck driver working 
conditions from inside state lines to the entire nation. Improving 
working conditions to ensure experienced drivers are safer, rather than 
tapping into an unsafe pool of teenage drivers to fill the void, will 
ideally lead to healthier and more fulfilled drivers who stay in their 
jobs as well as attract new applicants. Further attempts to pull 
teenagers from high school hallways onto high-speed highways, such as 
the Ceasing Age-Based (CAB) Trucking Restrictions Act (H.R. 267), 
should be rejected by Congress.
    Driver fatigue is a well-known and documented dangerous issue that 
plagues the trucking industry. The National Transportation Safety Board 
(NTSB) has repeatedly cited fatigue as a major contributor to truck 
crashes.\19\ Currently, truck drivers are permitted to drive up to 11 
hours per day for a total of 77 hours per week. These grueling hours 
can lead to cumulative fatigue and devastating safety consequences. 
Self-reports of fatigue, which almost always underestimate the problem, 
find that fatigue in truck operations is a significant issue. In a 2006 
driver survey prepared for FMCSA, ``65 percent [of drivers] reported 
that they often or sometimes felt drowsy while driving'' and almost 
half (47.6 percent) of drivers said they had fallen asleep while 
driving in the previous year.\20\ Expanding the hours truck drivers can 
drive in an attempt to move more goods puts truck drivers, their loads 
and everyone on the roads with them at risk.
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    \19\ NTSB, Highway, Multivehicle Work Zone Crash on Interstate 95 
Cranbury, New Jersey June 7, 2014, Accident Report NTSB/HAR-15/02 (Aug. 
11, 2015).
    \20\ 75 FR 82170 (Dec. 29, 2010), citing Dinges, D.F. & Maislin, 
G., ``Truck Driver Fatigue Management Survey,'' May 2006. FMCSA-2004-
19608-3968.
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    One of the most effective tools to help prevent driver fatigue is 
the use of Electronic Logging Devices (ELDs) to record drivers' hours 
of service (HOS). Paper logs are frequently referred to as ``comic 
books'' throughout the industry because of the ease in falsifying 
actual driving and work time. The FMCSA estimated that requiring ELDs 
will save 26 lives, prevent over 500 injuries and avoid over 1,800 
crashes annually.\21\ The U.S. DOT also estimated the annualized net 
benefits of adopting ELDs to be over $1 billion.\22\ Congress, 
recognizing the benefits of ELDs, mandated their use as part of the 
Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century (MAP-21) Act.\23\ In 
2015, the FMCSA delivered on this Congressional directive and issued a 
rule requiring the use of ELDs which went into effect in December 
2017.\24\ FMCSA reports that since the implementation of the ELD rule, 
the percentage of driver inspections with an HOS violation has 
decreased significantly.\25\ Despite this compelling evidence, broad 
support and an established final rule, some continue to object to the 
use of this technology.
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    \21\ 80 FR 78292 (Dec. 16, 2015).
    \22\ Id.
    \23\ Pub. L. 112-141 (2012).
    \24\ 80 FR 78292 (Dec. 16, 2015).
    \25\ FMCSA, Electronic Logging Devices: Improving Safety Through 
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    It is important to note that the ELD rule did not change the 
underlying HOS rules. Yet, a barrage of legislative and regulatory 
proposals continues to target these regulations. For instance, truck 
drivers hauling livestock or insects are currently exempted from having 
to use ELDs. In addition, the IIJA expands the HOS exemption already 
provided to these carriers to include one covering a 150 air-mile 
radius from the final destination (the prior exemption was for a 150 
air-mile radius from the source).\26\ Allowing certain haulers to skirt 
the ELD rules jeopardizes the safety of the animals in transport, truck 
drivers and all who travel on the roadways.
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    \26\ H.R. 3684, 117th Congress 1st Sess, (2021).
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    Additionally, in 2016, the FMCSA published an Advanced Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRM) requesting information regarding the 
potential benefits of regulatory action to address the safety risks 
posed by CMV drivers who are afflicted with obstructive sleep apnea 
(OSA).\27\ Compelling and consistent research has revealed that drivers 
afflicted with OSA that is not properly treated are more prone to 
fatigue and have a higher crash rate than the general driver 
population. In fact, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
considers OSA to be a disqualifying condition unless properly 
treated.\28\ Yet, in August of 2017 the FMCSA withdrew the OSA 
rulemaking without providing any credible analysis or reasoning for 
such an ill-advised course of action.\29\ We urge the Committee to 
address this critical safety issue.
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    \27\ 81 FR 12642 (Mar. 10, 2016).
    \28\ Id.
    \29\ 82 FR 37038 (Aug. 8, 2017).
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    In March 2020, FMCSA issued an Emergency Declaration exempting 
drivers from critical safety regulations including those governing 
hours of service for those operators providing direct assistance for 
relief efforts related to the COVID-19 pandemic.\30\ The declaration 
expired in October 2022. Advocates has called for the agency to be 
transparent about the use of this exemption by making any related data 
available to the public.\31\ To date, the agency has not responded or 
posted any data on its website. Release of this information will 
contribute significantly to the public's understanding of the impact to 
roadway safety resulting from the exemptions to the Federal Motor 
Carrier Safety Regulations granted by the Emergency Declaration, as 
well as the frequency of use of the exemptions by the industry.
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    \30\ FMCSA, Extension and Amendment of Emergency Declaration 2020-
002 (Aug. 31, 2021).
    \31\ Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety, Statement on Extension 
of Emergency Declaration and Exemptions from Certain Truck Safety 
Regulations (Sep. 2, 2021).
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    Overweight trucks disproportionately damage America's crumbling 
infrastructure and threaten public safety. While certain special 
interests are advocating to suspend federal limits on the weight and 
size of CMVs in response to purported supply chain issues, these laws 
are essential to protecting truck drivers, the traveling public, and 
our nation's roads and bridges.
    According to the 2021 Infrastructure Report Card from the American 
Society of Civil Engineers, America's roads receive a grade of ``D'' 
and our bridges were given a ``C.'' \32\ Nearly 40 percent of our 
615,000 bridges in the National Bridge Inventory are 50 years or older, 
and one out of 11 is structurally deficient.\33\ The U.S. DOT 
Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Study found that introducing double 
33-foot trailer trucks, known as ``Double 33s,'' would be projected to 
result in 2,478 bridges requiring strengthening or replacement at an 
estimated one-time cost of $1.1 billion.\34\ This figure does not even 
account for the additional, subsequent maintenance costs which will 
result from longer, heavier trucks. In fact, increasing the weight of a 
heavy truck by only 10 percent increases bridge damage by 33 
percent.\35\ The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) estimates that 
the investment backlog for bridges, to address all cost-beneficial 
bridge needs, is $123.1 billion.\36\
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    \32\ 2021 Infrastructure Report Card--Bridges, American Society of 
Civil Engineers (ASCE); 2021 Infrastructure Report Card--Roads, ASCE.
    \33\ 2021 Infrastructure Report Card--Bridges (ASCE).
    \34\ Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits Study: Bridge 
Structure Comparative Analysis Technical Report, FHWA, June 2015.
    \35\ Effect of Truck Weight on Bridge network Costs, NCHRP Report 
495, National Cooperative Highway Research Program, 2003.
    \36\ 2015 Status of the Nation's Highways, Bridges, and Transit: 
Conditions and Performance, Chapter 7, p. 7-34, FHWA, 2016.
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    Raising truck weight or size limits could result in an increased 
prevalence and severity of crashes. Longer trucks come with operational 
difficulties such as requiring more time to pass, having larger blind 
spots, crossing into adjacent lanes, swinging into opposing lanes on 
curves and turns, and taking a longer distance to adequately brake. In 
fact, double trailer trucks have an 11 percent higher fatal crash rate 
than single trailer trucks.\37\ Overweight trucks also pose serious 
safety risk. Brake violation are a major reason for out-of-service 
violations.\38\ According to a North Carolina study by IIHS, trucks 
with out-of-service violations are 362 percent more likely to be 
involved in a crash.\39\ This is also troubling considering that 
tractor-trailers moving at 60 miles per hour are required to stop in 
310 feet--the length of a football field--once the brakes are 
applied.\40\ Actual stopping distances are often much longer due to 
driver response time before braking and the common problem that truck 
brakes are often not in adequate working condition.
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    \37\ An Analysis of Truck Size and Weight: Phase I--Safety, 
Multimodal Transportation & Infrastructure Consortium, November 2013; 
Memorandum from J. Matthews, Rahall Appalachian Transportation 
Institute, Sep. 29, 2014.
    \38\ Roadside Inspections, Vehicle Violations: All Trucks Roadside 
Inspections, Vehicle Violations (2019--Calendar), FMCSA.
    \39\ Teoh E, Carter D, Smith S and McCartt A, Crash risk factors 
for interstate large trucks in North Carolina, Journal of Safety 
Research (2017).
    \40\ Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Title 49 Part 571 Section 
121: Standard No. 121 Air brake systems (FMVSS 121).
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    There is overwhelming opposition to any increases to truck size and 
weight limits. The public, local government officials, safety, consumer 
and public health groups, law enforcement, first responders, truck 
drivers and labor representatives, families of truck crash victims and 
survivors, and even Congress on a bipartisan level have all rejected 
attempts to increase truck size and weight. Also, the technical reports 
released in June 2015 from the U.S. DOT Comprehensive Truck Size and 
Weight Study concluded there is a ``profound'' lack of data from which 
to quantify the safety impact of larger or heavier trucks and 
consequently recommended that no changes in the relevant truck size and 
weight laws and regulations be considered until data limitations are 
overcome.\41\
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    \41\ Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits Study, Federal 
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    The IIJA invested billions of dollars to improve and elevate the 
safety of our nation's roads and bridges. Any increase to federal truck 
size and weight limits will undermine this objective, worsen safety 
problems, and divert rail traffic from privately owned freight 
railroads onto our already overburdened public highways. Despite claims 
to the contrary, bigger trucks will not result in fewer trucks. 
Following every past increase to federal truck size and weight limits, 
the number of trucks on our roads has gone up. Since 1982, when 
Congress last increased the gross vehicle weight limit, truck 
registrations have more than doubled.\42\ The U.S. DOT study also 
addressed this meritless assertion and found that any potential mileage 
efficiencies from the use of heavier trucks would be offset in just one 
year.\43\ We urge this Committee to oppose any increases to federal 
truck size and weight limits, including mandating double 33 feet 
trailers, pilot programs and state or industry specific exemptions. 
This includes the Safer Highways and Increased Performance for 
Interstate Trucking (SHIP IT) Act (H.R. 471) that has numerous reckless 
provisions, among them, the establishment of a pilot program for 
overweight trucks.
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    \42\ 2017 Annual Report.
    \43\ Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits Study, Federal 
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    While autonomous driving technology could offer the promise of 
significantly reducing crashes involving CMVs in the future, it is far 
from ready to be deployed safely on our nation's roads and therefore is 
not a viable option to address the U.S.'s supply chain issues. The 
advent of this technology must not be used as a pretext to eviscerate 
essential safety regulations administered by the FMCSA, and 
particularly in the absence of new standards to ensure the technology 
performs safely and as needed. The public safety protections provided 
by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) become no less 
important or applicable simply because a CMV has been equipped with an 
autonomous driving system (ADS). In fact, additional substantial public 
safety concerns are presented by autonomous commercial motor vehicles 
(ACMVs).
    Autonomous technology is still in its relative infancy as evidenced 
by fatal and serious crashes involving passenger motor vehicles 
equipped with automated driving systems of varying levels.\44\ If those 
incidents had involved ACMVs, the results could have been even more 
catastrophic, and the death and injury toll could have been much worse. 
Some of the most pressing safety shortcomings associated with 
autonomous vehicle (AV) technology, which include the ADS properly 
detecting and reacting to all other road users, driver engagement and 
cybersecurity, are exponentially amplified by the greater mass and 
force of an ACMV. As such, it is imperative that ACMVs be subject to 
comprehensive regulations, including having a licensed driver behind 
the wheel for the foreseeable future.
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    \44\ NHTSA, Standing General Order 2021-01 (Aug. 2021).
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    Advocates and numerous stakeholders developed the ``AV Tenets,'' 
policy positions which should be a foundational part of any AV 
legislation.\45\ The AV Tenets have four main, commonsense categories 
including: 1) prioritizing safety of all road users; 2) guaranteeing 
accessibility and equity; 3) preserving consumer and worker rights; 
and, 4) ensuring local control and sustainable transportation. While 
the AV Tenets were developed for application to vehicles under 10,000 
pounds, many of the principles also could apply to larger commercial 
vehicles. At a minimum, ACMVs must meet safety standards for the ADS 
and related systems, including for cybersecurity, and operations must 
be subject to adequate oversight as a starting point for their 
potential deployment. In February 2022, Advocates commissioned a public 
opinion poll that found that 85 percent of respondents were concerned 
with sharing the road with driverless trucks.\46\ Moreover, 60 percent 
of respondents indicated that their concerns would be addressed if the 
vehicles were required to meet minimum government standards.
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    \45\ See: https://saferoads.org/autonomous-vehicle-tenets/
    \46\ ENGINE'S CARAVAN SURVEY, Public Concern About Driverless Cars 
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    Lastly, we commend Congress for the safety advances included in the 
bipartisan IIJA and have been urging the U.S. DOT to implement the 
directives with urgency to address the motor vehicle crash fatality and 
injury toll. With 115 people being killed on our roadways every day, 
time is certainly of the essence.
    Thank you for your consideration of these issues. We look forward 
to working with you to improve safety on our nation's roadways.
        Sincerely,
                                           Catherine Chase,
                  President, Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety.

cc:  Members of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure

    Ms. Norton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Jefferies, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act 
provides $102 billion in total rail funding. This is a historic 
investment that will advance our goal of reducing carbon 
emissions from transportation. In addition to mitigation, 
adaptation is also an essential aspect of responding to climate 
change.
    Could you expand on how the industry is investing in 
climate-resilient rail infrastructure?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, thank you for that question, and 
certainly a very top-of-mind point. So, right now, freight rail 
is the most fuel-efficient, least environmentally intensive way 
of moving goods over land. One gallon of diesel can move one 
ton of freight about 500 miles. And 1 intermodal train will 
take about 200 trucks off the highway. What does that do? That 
reduces emissions, it reduces congestion, it reduces wear and 
tear on public infrastructure.
    And so, as we stand here today, an immediate way to reduce 
emissions is to partner with my friend at the ATA and get that 
supply chain humming so you are going from truck to rail to 
truck, pulling trucks off the highway. But we can't just sit 
where we are right now and be happy with our environmental 
performance. We have got to continue to drive that process 
forward, and that includes both out on the network, but also in 
the yard.
    So, in the yard, we are investing in electric cranes, 
emissions-reduction technology, the technology that shuts off a 
locomotive so it is not idling, similar to what you have in 
your car at a stoplight or stop sign. But we are also investing 
in battery-electric power, hydrogen power, increased use of 
biofuels, decreased friction between wheel and track to 
increase glide. So, there is a vast number of tools that are 
being deployed.
    And certainly, the IIJA provides significant opportunities 
to partner with the Federal Government, both in money coming 
out of the DOT, but also money coming out of DOE as well. And 
we are working with our members to leverage those opportunities 
to really partner with the Federal Government and with the 
suppliers and the OEMs to make sure that we are really pushing 
the limits of what we can do with battery electric, what we can 
do with hydrogen, what we can do with biofuels, because it is 
not a just pick one path right now and go forward. We need to 
be exploring all opportunities and the pros and cons of each 
type of NextGen fuel and NextGen power source.
    And so, that is what we are doing. And the programs that 
the IIJA provided and the agencies that it did are just getting 
up and humming. And so, we are looking forward to really 
working with the Government to advance that R&D.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear, I was surprised--perhaps I shouldn't have been--
to note that women make up, according to the Bureau of Labor 
Statistics, only 7.9 percent of truckdrivers. That was in 2021. 
That was an increase of only 0.1 percent compared to the year 
before.
    How does the trucking industry plan to increase recruitment 
and training opportunities for women?
    Mr. Spear. Great question. Added emphasis across all of our 
member companies has to change and shift toward different pools 
of talent. We talked just recently about the 18 to 20, veteran 
service members exiting. We also need to really make an 
emphasis on urban hiring and gender.
    And with respect to women drivers, you have got to sit down 
and listen to them. You have got to begin to understand what 
are the headwinds, what are the reasons and concerns that they 
have about joining our industry. Talk to the ones that are out 
there among the 7 percent, and what are their concerns.
    You are going to find that, within training, those programs 
need to improve. There needs to be more women and women 
trainers. And that is essential that those programs be adjusted 
and understand the concerns that women have about becoming a 
truckdriver. But you also have drivers that will say, when they 
are out on the road, there are concerns for getting out of the 
truck at night, not having well-lit, secure parking. And it is 
an inhibitor. It is a deterrent from someone entering a good-
paying job with exceptional benefits. We want to grow this 
populous.
    I was just in Europe and found out that their percentage is 
actually 3 percent. I thought 7 percent was bad. So, we really 
need to have better training. We need to look at ways that we 
can improve safety and security and alleviate those concerns, 
and women feel safe in this industry. And they are a major 
contributor. It is a pool of talent that we believe could 
really shore up our shortage. We are short 78,000 drivers. I 
would love all 78,000.
    Mr. Rouzer [presiding]. The gentlelady's time has expired.
    I now recognize Mr. Perry for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Perry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, 
gentlemen, for making the trip and being here.
    Mr. Spear, since we are on the discussion, not where I 
wanted to go, but I think it is important to recognize that 
truckdrivers, whether you are a man or a woman, need to be able 
to protect yourself in an increasingly violent society. And the 
inability to carry a firearm across State lines in many cases 
because of the restrictions in various States makes that an 
impossibility and to stay legal. So, it is something that you 
might want to consider taking up in all the things that you are 
doing to protect your drivers and keep them safe.
    But I would like to talk to you about the independent 
contractor business model in our Nation and how important it is 
to the trucking industry, the supply chain, and the people's 
freedom and ability to get into a business and make good 
decisions for themselves and for their family. And to note that 
the administration, in particular people on the left in States, 
are assaulting this model of making a living in your industry. 
The front line in this war is California, of course, where AB5 
effectively outlawed owner-operated models by reforming the--or 
restating the term ``employee.''
    I just wonder if you could characterize, with as much cargo 
comes into California and has to be shipped across the country, 
how AB5 has affected the industry and the supply chain, from 
your viewpoint.
    Mr. Spear. Well, independent contractors have--that model 
has been in existence for over 90 years, and it is the spirit 
of being a small business person. A lot of our largest members 
started with one truck as independent contractors. Now, they 
employ thousands of people. So, giving people the right to 
choose that path, that is what is in question here, with AB5 
and the Department of Labor NPRM that is currently pending.
    And I would just say that, stop talking to the media and 
start talking to the independent contractors. I can bring 
scores of them up here, and they will tell you exactly why they 
choose this path. They want seasonal work. They want part-time 
work. They have another business on the side. Whatever the 
reason may be, that is their decision. That is their choice. 
And saying that an employer is forcing them into this category 
because they don't want to pay them more or they don't want to 
pay health benefits, the independent contractors will tell you 
that that is not the case.
    Now, I am not saying in any employment category there isn't 
some instance out there of abuse, but to reform the entire 
State law or the national law based on an anecdote--just talk 
to the independent contractors. They will tell you that this is 
a wonderful profession. This is a business that they want to 
grow. They want to add trucks, drivers underneath them, serving 
other companies. Give them that option. Don't take it away. We 
are short 78,000 drivers. You take away our independent 
contractors, you are going to pay more for everything we eat, 
drink, and wear. Think inflation is bad now; it makes it only 
worse.
    Mr. Perry. Sir, so, everybody in the room knows, even 
though we are not sometimes willing to talk about what this is 
about. It is not about profits. It is about unionized labor and 
forcing it on people. And you already mentioned the Wage and 
Hour Division of the U.S. Department of Labor's notice of 
proposed rulemaking in that regard.
    But what I am looking for, in the last 1\1/2\ minutes or 
less that we have: What has been the impact to the supply 
chain, if you can contextualize that, in California and across 
the country, and what will be the impact if it is allowed 
through the NPRM to go across the country? What will be the 
impact to consumers, to people that want to be in the business, 
and to citizens across the country?
    Mr. Spear. Any State like California that adopts AB5 as a 
model, you are going to have an inability to move freight from 
those ports to the rest of the country. I have companies that 
are simply dependent on this model, cannot operate, cannot 
comply with the rules of AB5. They added layers for testing who 
is and isn't an independent contractor. They are going to pull 
out. They are just simply not going to operate in California. 
That is unacceptable, not just for the people that live in 
California, but throughout the rest of the country.
    We can't put everything on rail. I mean, we have to work 
together, Ian is right. But that stuff is going to have to move 
out of those ports by truck. By and large, those companies 
aren't going to operate there. That is the impact on the supply 
chain. You are going to pay more. You are going to have less 
options. I think consumers, constituents are going to find that 
unacceptable.
    And you are right--by the way, there is no enforcement 
mechanism in California for this. It is done by the plaintiff's 
bar. That is by design. They are going to litigate us, and then 
the unions are going to come in and try to organize them. That 
is what is behind this.
    Mr. Perry. I yield.
    Mr. Rouzer. The gentleman's time has expired.
    I now recognize the gentlelady from California, Mrs. 
Napolitano.
    Mrs. Napolitano. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Jefferies--it is on. Can you hear? OK.
    The infrastructure law provided $3.7 billion for much 
needed grade separation projects. Now, we need to construct 
these projects to relieve congestion through safety, air 
quality, and freight movement in the communities such as mine.
    How and when will the railroads work with local communities 
and State transportation agencies to ensure these projects get 
built quickly? Are railroads willing to remove redtape and 
invest in these projects?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, that is a great question. And we are 
100 percent willing to remove redtape to get projects done. We 
often need a partner in the State and Federal Government to do 
that as well. But you are spot on. The $3.7 billion for grade 
crossing safety, grade separations was probably the most 
dynamic, exciting piece of that vast legislation for our 
particular industry. And we look forward--I believe we are 
expecting the first round of the NOFA to come available here in 
the near future, and I know my railroads are excited about the 
opportunities there.
    And you are right, we have got to pick the most high-impact 
projects. We have got to collaborate with communities to make 
sure that we are being good partners. We do have a track record 
there. We have got models around the country of working with 
States and localities to get projects done. And this is a 
really, really transformational opportunity for pedestrian 
safety, for quality of life, for freight fluidity, for 
emissions reductions. So, we are absolutely ready, willing, 
able to work to put these dollars to work.
    Mrs. Napolitano. We sure could have used approval of some 
of those on the Alameda Corridor-East. We have some projects 
that railroads gave zero on projects.
    Mr. Spear, I am very concerned by the increasing number of 
reports of new female truckdrivers being sexually assaulted 
during training rides. Stories are often the same: New 
truckdriver is required to take a training ride with an 
experienced truckdriver and then is sexually harassed or 
assaulted during the ride. It often occurs in isolated areas 
and results in the trainee being left on the side of the road.
    What is the trucking industry doing to address this 
situation?
    Mr. Spear. Great question, Congresswoman. Zero tolerance. 
Zero. It is unacceptable to have that happen in any industry, 
but specifically to trucking. Just to Congresswoman Norton, I 
would love to have all 78,000 vacancies filled by women 
drivers. To do that, our members, our industry have to have not 
just programs that train to this of why that is unacceptable, 
they actually have to enforce it to ensure that it doesn't 
happen.
    At ATA, we are very active with Truckers Against 
Trafficking, working with our driver populous to train them to 
spot the trafficking of women and children for sexual 
exploitation. That there sets the bar that that behavior is 
unacceptable. We train drivers to look for it. Internally 
within the company, we have to go further. We just launched, 
last year, the Women in Motion program, to really focus on 
training programs that overcome this instance, and having women 
train women drivers is certainly a good step forward. These 
programs have to speak to that.
    Mrs. Napolitano. Well, I certainly would like to see some 
of those programs carried through, sir.
    Mr. Spear. Absolutely.
    Mrs. Napolitano. Mr. Regan, I recently visited busdrivers 
in my district in the El Monte bus station. They were very 
pleased with our work in the infrastructure law to improve 
busdriver safety. They informed me of the need of more and 
bigger shields to protect them. We must continue to hold FTA 
and transit agencies accountable for these bus safety 
improvements. Busdrivers also mentioned that many drivers are 
reaching retirement. And there needs to be improved recruitment 
and training on the jobs.
    Can you please comment on both the needs for bus safety and 
this busdriver recruitment?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Thank you for that question, Congresswoman.
    And thank you for your help in getting that driver safety 
provision included in the IIJA. That was a vital piece of 
legislation. And to be honest with you, I am a little 
frustrated by the pace with which that is being implemented. I 
would like to see us moving a little bit further along, a 
little bit faster in terms of protecting these workers, simply 
because it is horrific what they have to deal with and the 
number of stories I see of somebody being attacked.
    But also, I think that is a direct impact on your second 
part of the question, which is on recruitment. We do need to 
recruit a whole lot more people into this industry. It starts 
with making them good jobs, which I think in most systems, 
these are going to be good-paying jobs with good benefits. But 
if the best advertisement for your industry is the local news 
story about another driver being assaulted, then that is not a 
very good advertisement about bringing people into your 
industry.
    So, we need to address this right now, and I think shields 
are a good start, but also bringing workers into the planning 
and training, and the safety planning committees is a critical 
part.
    Mrs. Napolitano. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Rouzer. The gentlelady's time has expired.
    The gentleman from Texas, Mr. Babin, is recognized for 5 
minutes.
    Dr. Babin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I really appreciate all 
these good witnesses that are here today.
    I proudly represent the 36th Congressional District of the 
State of Texas, and home of our great Port of Houston. Thank 
you for being here, Mr. Guenther. We really appreciate it. I am 
going to get to a question to you here in just a little bit.
    As you all know, some of you mentioned in your testimonies, 
Government investment is absolutely vital to our transportation 
and infrastructure industry. And that said, we all also know 
that just throwing money at a problem doesn't make it go away. 
Unfortunately, the Federal Government proved that, once again, 
with last session's Democratic bill, the $1.2 trillion bill 
that has directly, I think without question, contributed to the 
current economic crisis that we find ourselves in.
    I hope that some lessons were learned. Throwing billions of 
taxpayer dollars at this industry without prioritizing supply 
chain solutions, pandemic recovery issues like fraud and abuse, 
serious workforce issues, overly burdensome redtape, and other 
underlying issues will not actually allow us to see long-term 
sustainable improvement and investment in our Nation's 
infrastructure. As some of you noted, it will lead to industry-
specific inflation, increasing the costs that are unique to our 
sector.
    On top of that, carving out political handouts for niche 
green transportation and infrastructure projects and companies 
is not good for the industry as a whole. In fact, it causes 
delays, increases costs, and is anticompetitive and all around 
counterproductive. I am very deeply concerned about the left's 
rampant spending and the impact it is having on inflation and 
our economic stability as we face a $31.4 trillion national 
debt now.
    Quickly, Mr. Firth, are AGC members hurting due to higher 
costs: timber, transportation, equipment, and things like that?
    Mr. Firth. I am sorry, could you repeat the question?
    Dr. Babin. Yes. Are your general contractor members hurting 
due to higher costs? Are higher costs hurting your members?
    Mr. Firth. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, look anywhere you want. 
Fuel is a big one. Just internally in our own company, this 
last year, our fuel bill, we were close to over $1 million over 
budget on fuel.
    Dr. Babin. Absolutely.
    Mr. Firth. Our workers have to drive further, as we are in 
rural areas. It costs more money. So, fuel is just one that 
comes to my mind.
    Dr. Babin. Thank you.
    Mr. Jefferies, are AAR members hurting from higher costs: 
constructing new facilities, labor, maintenance, et cetera?
    Mr. Jefferies. Absolutely. Inflation affects not only the 
goods and materials we use to operate, it also affects the 
customers whose goods we move. So, it is hit on multiple 
layers. Absolutely.
    Dr. Babin. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear, are ATA members hurting from higher costs: fuel, 
labor, sky-high new truck prices, batteries, et cetera?
    Mr. Spear. All of the above.
    Dr. Babin. Amen.
    Mr. Spear. The price of fuel is still a huge headwind, 
especially for the smaller companies, owner-operators.
    Dr. Babin. Right.
    Mr. Spear. It is a serious matter.
    Dr. Babin. Thank you.
    Now, Mr. Guenther--again, thank you all for being here. As 
the proud Representative of the Port of Houston, I have a 
question for you regarding the port's underfunding issue which 
you mentioned in your opening statement. I am personally very 
familiar with the operations and maintenance funding challenges 
that our port has faced for many years.
    But would you quickly elaborate on the Houston Ship 
Channel's specific needs for additional investment there? You 
mentioned that in your opening statement.
    Mr. Guenther. Yes. Thank you, Congressman Babin. The 
reality is, you mentioned throwing money at a problem. Yes, we 
have got a short term. We are about to be draft restricted. A 
quick fix might say throw money at the problem, but what really 
needs to happen in reality is annual maintenance; deliberate, 
robust in decisions to make sure that we are providing the 
funding for those waterways in the United States that have the 
most economic benefit, and make sure they are not deficient or 
limited.
    As I mentioned, we, the largest port in the country in 
terms of tonnage and number of vessel calls on a per-ton basis, 
are getting less of funding for operating and maintenance, 
which makes our channels--our Houston Ship Channel become more 
limited. And at the end, when ships are drawing less water and 
able to haul less freight, it is going to cost more money. And 
we have to be prepared for those ships and making future 
investments--we are building our channel now, deepening and 
widening our channel now, to handle those ships that can come 
through the Panama Canal, the new Panama Canal.
    Dr. Babin. Yes, sir. Exactly.
    I see that my time is up, so, I will yield back, Mr. 
Chairman. Thank you.
    Mr. Rouzer. The gentleman yields back.
    The gentleman from California, Mr. Garamendi, is recognized 
for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Garamendi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank 
Chairman Graves for calling this hearing.
    The implementation of the IIJA is of critical importance to 
this Nation. The bill itself will--could, if properly 
implemented, really lay the foundation for America's economic 
future, all the pieces of it, whether it is dredging or 
highways or railroads, also the grid system and the like. 
Critically important.
    I want to focus on two issues. First of all, Mr. Regan, if 
you could respond to the AB5 issue quickly.
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Thank you for that. First of all, the 
language--what AB5 does is simply provide a clear definition 
for what is an employee, what is not. It does not eliminate the 
independent contractor method, because there are plenty of ways 
for someone to do outside work and clearly demonstrate they are 
independent contractors; nor does it require them to be in a 
union. In fact, all it does is properly classify workers so 
that they have the constitutionally guaranteed ability to join 
a union should they choose to do so.
    Mr. Garamendi. Thank you. There will be much more 
discussion about this. This is an ongoing discussion in 
California about the implementation and possible modification 
of it along the way. Thank you.
    I want to really deal with an issue that was raised by Mr. 
Firth, and also you, Mr. Regan, and that deals with the $1.2 
trillion. Who is it to benefit? The construction industry, the 
transportation industry, or all of America's new existing and 
potential industries? This is the Buy America provision.
    We spent a lot of time in this committee working on that, 
not only here in this House, but also in the other house, and 
we have put in place the Buy America provisions that are much 
more broad than they were before the IIJA and other legislation 
went into effect.
    So, what I want to really get to, Mr. Regan, if you could 
deal with this, is how the ancient 1983 broad waiver, which 
still exists in the Department of Transportation, how it 
conflicts with the law that we have passed, that is the Buy 
America provisions.
    Mr. Regan. Yes. It addresses--the waiver is on manufactured 
goods. So, it goes beyond iron and steel. And that should be 
repealed, because if we truly do want to use this type of 
investment to rebuild our manufacturing capability in this 
country, we need to have expansive Buy America protections 
across the board. But we also need to have expectations within 
the industry to know what is going to be required to be made 
here. And I think we need to have those definitions put in 
place very soon.
    So far, we are still lagging behind, and I totally 
understand that it is a complicated process. It was a big 
expansion of the program, but we do need to put very clear 
definitions and timelines in place so the industries have an 
opportunity to respond and start reshoring some of that work.
    Mr. Garamendi. I want to be very, very clear here; the 1983 
waiver is a broad waiver. It basically says, with very few 
exceptions, everything can be waived. It is in direct conflict 
with the law that we passed. And while Mr. Firth correctly 
raised the issue, it is complicated. There are many different 
pieces to any construction project. However, that waiver, it 
should be repealed. And then we should simultaneously get about 
further definitions and clarification.
    And so, Mr. Firth, if you would like to deal with the 
clarifications and along the line, I'll give you 30 seconds and 
will come back at other issues here.
    Mr. Firth. Well, thank you for the question. It is 
confusing.
    Mr. Garamendi. Indeed it is.
    Mr. Firth. It really is. I don't know if, as a company, am 
I going to have to hire somebody to really sort this out as a, 
you know, what the rule really means. From a construction 
standpoint, I guess we believe that when we go to build 
something, Buy America should already be--or if it is a 
material or some type of gadget or whatever that we are 
supposed to implement into a project, it should already be 
spelled out for us, very clear. And I guess that is where the 
confusion is, is because we never know until it seems like at 
the very end, where it isn't. And then trying to find an 
equivalent to even get a waiver is very difficult.
    Mr. Garamendi. Good. Department of Transportation, you must 
be here in the room. Be prepared to be banged on here until you 
get this squared away. Repeal the 1983 law and get about, 
simultaneously, the clarification that is necessary to 
implement the law that we wrote last year.
    With regard to one other issue, in 18 seconds, Dusty 
Johnson, Mr. Johnson has stepped out of the room, but the Ocean 
Shipping Reform Act is in place. I understand he is going to 
pick up this issue and ask those of you that are at the ports, 
railroads about that law. And it was a nice bipartisan bill.
    Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri [presiding]. Mr. Rouzer.
    Mr. Rouzer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank our panelists 
for being here today. I really appreciate the value of your 
input.
    So, we often talk about the ramifications of COVID and 
mandatory shutdown of the economy and all the supply chain 
disruptions, but just for the sake of educational purposes, I 
want to go back pre-COVID: before COVID, when the economy was 
humming along pretty good, gas prices were pretty low, 
respectively.
    What were your biggest supply chain challenges then? If we 
could go, starting with Mr. Spear all the way down.
    Mr. Spear. I think our leading headwind is the shortage of 
talent. It was before COVID. We were roughly 50,000, 51,000 
short on drivers; about 29,000, 30,000 short on technicians. 
That inflated to 81,000. Starting to tick down a little bit. We 
are at 78,000 short on drivers. I would say for all the other 
sectors of employment out there that are now post-COVID facing 
the same problem that we had before COVID, welcome to the show.
    We really are stretched thin in terms of what we can do 
without people, hard-working men and women getting behind the 
wheel to move the freight. So, we are moving 72.5 percent of 
the domestic freight in this country. To grow that, you are 
going to have to put more people behind the wheel. So, it is 
going to continue to be a real issue for us.
    Mr. Rouzer. Mr. Jefferies?
    Mr. Jefferies. I think it is the ability to put dollars to 
work on projects and do it in a reasonable amount of time, in 
order to not only maintain and replace what might be older 
equipment, bridges, et cetera, or expanding into new 
facilities, new yards, really just incredibly long timelines 
for review, a lot of uncertainty there. So, lack of certainty 
and lack of timeliness of being able to put our dollars to work 
to maintain and grow capacity.
    Mr. Rouzer. Mr. Firth?
    Mr. Firth. For us it is probably going to be steel, whether 
it be rebar for the bridges that we work on or anything like 
that. Hitting rolling dates from the mills or whatnot, takes a 
little bit of logistics to make sure that you get your order in 
ahead of time.
    Mr. Rouzer. Mr. Guenther?
    Mr. Guenther. For ports, our port and most seaports I would 
say it is just--the supply chain is very asset based, from 
ships to ports to trucks to chassis to where they end up at a 
warehouse or vice versa. And when one link in that supply chain 
backs up, for us as seaports, it caused a lot of congestion on 
our ports with the inability to move them out quickly. Ports 
can't be storage facilities. They have to be transit 
facilities. And you saw ships backing up in Houston, on the 
east coast, and across the country.
    So, just measures that may be more fluid to move cargo 
through ports. And we will have to continue to look at that, 
making investments in opportunities to get cargo out of our 
ports.
    Mr. Rouzer. Mr. Regan?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you. Honestly, it was insufficient 
workforce levels at Class I railroads. It is a problem that 
continues today. And I appreciate the comments from my friend, 
Ian, about what they are doing to address it. But that was a 
problem before the pandemic and continued throughout.
    Mr. Rouzer. Yes. Mr. Jefferies, going back to you, what are 
some current or proposed regulations being discussed that could 
negatively impact freight railroads' ability to respond to 
significant supply chain bottlenecks? And then, follow up to 
that, are there any deregulatory actions that need to be taken 
to help address the matter?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, to parrot my friend, Chris, how long 
do we have? I will keep it short.
    So, a couple different things, and it is different parts of 
Government. I talked about the ability to put dollars to work. 
So, there are opportunities to build on the success of IIJA 
when it came to One Federal Decision to expand that beyond DOT-
led projects. There are other opportunities to limit timelines 
and scope for other reviews through different agencies.
    When it comes to our regulator, the FRA, as I said, 
deployment of technology is not only the next leap forward in 
safety, it is also the next leap forward in efficiency and 
increasing the ability to move more goods on what is a limited 
fiscal infrastructure. And we need a partner there. We need a 
partner that is going to work with us to build objective 
datasets in order to demonstrate that a new tool is resulting 
in a higher level of safety and allow that to be folded into 
the regulatory structure.
    So, I wouldn't even say deregulatory. I would say 
regulatory modernization. Our economic regulator, the STB, is 
considering some rules that would increase the amount of 
touches, increase the amount of switches into the freight rail 
network. And that is the last thing you want to do. You want to 
go in the opposite direction for fluidity. Reducing employee 
risk is getting switches out of the network and allowing goods 
to move end to end with as few touches as possible. I am happy 
to get into that further, but just a few quick points there.
    Mr. Rouzer. Thank you very much. I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Mr. Carson.
    Mr. Carson. Thank you.
    Congratulations to Chairman Graves and Ranking Member 
Larsen.
    For the panelists, what is the most important thing in your 
mind--I know we have a committee agenda--but in your mind, that 
we should work on this year, and why is that your priority? And 
what specific changes should be made?
    Mr. Spear. I think oversight. This being the first hearing, 
to really look at a $1.2 trillion bill first year and 
implementation is a really good start. I think we all have a 
vested bipartisan interest in having a solid supply chain that 
isn't contracting in various points, and when it does, to 
collectively look at the problem and come up with real 
solutions. And I think we have demonstrated an ability, 
Government and private sector, to do just that.
    I thought the Ocean Shipping Reform Act, the CHIPS Act, 
bringing it back, those sensitive items so that we can 
manufacture them here, ensures that we are going to have the 
capability to serve this economy long term. If there is 
anything that came out of COVID, it is really shining a 
spotlight on the weaknesses. I think the IIJA does a lot of 
potentially good things to solve that. Oversight of this law, 
not just this year, but in the coming 4 years, is going to be 
really, really important.
    Mr. Jefferies. I would certainly echo that. Wherever you 
are on--whether you support it or didn't support the IIJA, 
there is an immense opportunity to put a lot of dollars to good 
projects. And so, I would say the hard part starts now, is how 
do the agencies get that money out in a merit-based, 
transparent, objective manner to make sure the impact of such 
projects is maximized, and how do you put that money to work as 
quickly and expeditiously as possible. This committee can 
really lead that charge in a bipartisan way.
    I think we are all excited to hear the tone coming out of 
the heads of the committee here. You look around the room, you 
see all the prior leaders of this committee, all of them now. 
There are a lot of folks from different walks of life, 
different backgrounds, but I think getting back to the 
tradition of accomplishment and getting things done together 
will be key and allow this committee to be remarkably 
successful in supporting the projects that I have mentioned.
    Mr. Carson. No doubt.
    Mr. Firth. I think for us from the contracting community, 
it would be streamlining the permitting process. As we get all 
the work from the designers and the owners and everything like 
that, concurrent reviews, something that can speed up the 
process to get the projects out the door. The projects all 
start with permits and, for us, that is where our biggest 
bottleneck is.
    Mr. Guenther. Just further to what I have talked about 
before--from the IIJA, just staying on point with the operator 
maintenance. Talked a lot about channels, but also with highway 
infrastructure, it is landside, waterside, efficient movement 
of freight, and making those continued investments to make sure 
that the infrastructure side of the supply chain stays 
adequate.
    Mr. Regan. I think it is pairing the investments that are 
being made with really strong workforce development and 
training programs as well, to ensure that not only are we 
building our human infrastructure as we are building our modern 
transportation infrastructure, but more importantly, that once 
we are able to deliver on expanded services, new routes, things 
like that, that we have the workforce there ready and able to 
deliver the service that the people expect.
    Mr. Carson. Thank you. I yield back, Chairman.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Mr. Bost.
    Mr. Bost. Thank you, Chairman. And I want to thank the 
panel for being here.
    And, Mr. Spear, the trucking industry has recognized it is 
difficult finding safe parking, and you have elaborated a 
little bit on that, and it is a major challenge for 
professional drivers due to the lack of capacity. Your research 
and the institute has established drivers spend about 56 
minutes each day searching for a place to be safe and park 
their vehicle. Now, this is clearly a major inefficiency in our 
supply chain. However, the problems can be fixed, and I thought 
we were going to get it done last year. This committee 
unanimously passed a truck parking bill out of this committee. 
It got to the floor, but didn't get anywhere from there.
    Have you ever seen any issue, that is, such a time when we 
have a fix, we know what we need to do, we pass it, we can't 
get it through, and a time whenever we really need to get 
something done? And I have been around Government a long time, 
but watching something that is so much agreed on and then 
stalled, I am just going to ask you: Have you seen anything to 
that level?
    Mr. Spear. I have, actually.
    Mr. Bost. Yes. Me too.
    Mr. Spear. But let's focus on this issue. And first of all, 
thank you and to the entire committee for this support. This is 
not a partisan issue.
    Mr. Bost. No.
    Mr. Spear. Anybody can drive out of the beltway here, and 
you will see trucks on on-and-off ramps resting. Why? Because 
they are required by Federal law to take breaks. And when those 
breaks come up and they don't have a place to park, they are 
going to look for the next best thing. So, this is a safety 
issue, not just to our drivers, men and women; it is also a 
safety issue for the motoring public. I am out there driving my 
car, my family, my kids. I don't want to tangle with our 
members. I don't think anybody else does either.
    Getting them safe, secure, well-lit parking is a no-
brainer. It is why then-Chairman DeFazio had $1 billion in his 
bill. It didn't go anywhere. Your bill, I hope, bipartisan, 
start early, we are going to be out there pounding marble. We 
are going to be knocking on doors to make certain this gets 
done. This is a necessity.
    And by the way, we have been really working hand and glove 
with the Secretary of Transportation and his team to tap into 
those discretionary moneys that he has under the IIJA to ensure 
that blocks that and States have access to it for truck 
parking. So, in the interim, while that legislation moves, we 
are going to be working with them to ensure that we are 
tackling the problem as well. I haven't confronted anybody on 
this issue that disagrees.
    And by the way, we sent that letter up. That is a joint 
letter between ATA and OOIDA. That makes a statement. We are in 
this together. This is an issue that impacts whether you are an 
owner-operator, an IC, a full fleet, we all need more safe 
parking.
    Mr. Bost. Thank you.
    And on my next question, I want to go this route. And you 
know that I was born and raised in the trucking industry. I 
like to tell people I came home from the Marine Corps, ran a 
business for 10 years, loved it for 8. But I need you to 
expand, if you can--now, this is a State issue, but I want to 
bring it up here.
    My brother works tirelessly to get drivers. He gets the 
drivers, gets them qualified, makes sure he wants to have them, 
and then because of State law now that has legalized marijuana, 
they can't pass the drug tests. And it is happening all over 
this Nation, and this committee needs to know exactly how much 
that is affecting the trucking industry. And can you expand on 
that?
    Mr. Spear. Yes. The Secretary asked me what keeps me up at 
night, this issue: someone who is impaired getting behind the 
wheel of an 80,000-pound vehicle. You have got multiple States, 
over a dozen now, plus Canada, legalizing recreational 
marijuana. It is widespread. We are regulated by the Federal 
Government. We cannot have anyone impaired, using marijuana or 
any other narcotic, operating this equipment.
    So, this channel conflict between the Federal rules and the 
States allowing it, this ambiguity is creating a litigious 
environment, and we are caught right in the middle of it. 
Somebody has got to step up to the plate and put safety first. 
You want to smoke weed at home, smoke weed at home. If it is 
legal, fine. Do not get behind the wheel of an 80,000-pound 
vehicle.
    We need to have strong standards, and we need to enforce 
the law. And it is tough to say that because we are short 
78,000 drivers. I want more of them coming in, but not if they 
are impaired. Can't afford that to happen. You hit a schoolbus 
full of kids, and they are impaired, that is on us. We have got 
to do better than that. So, this is an issue that, I pose to 
you all, we have got to work on.
    Mr. Bost. Thank you. My time has expired. I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Ms. Titus.
    Ms. Titus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    One of the things that I think is a real asset to this bill 
we have been discussing this morning is that it pairs 
investment in workforce development with investment in 
sustainable fuels, green energy, environmental concerns. And I 
see that in Nevada. We have already got almost $9 million 
through our RTC to buy electric buses.
    So, Mr. Regan, could you talk about how that combination of 
workforce development and good energy policy through transit 
could be used in other Government agencies?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Thank you so much for that question, 
because I think one of the really great developments that has 
come out of the implementation of this law was with the Low- 
and No-Emission Bus Program, where 5 percent of that money is 
required to go towards workforce development. That is critical 
because, as I said before, making sure that we have the 
workforce ready and trained once these buses become available, 
but also we are making a pretty--it is a bigger transition than 
you might expect to change from a diesel bus to an electric 
bus. You do have to have specific requirements from a 
maintenance side and an operations side to make sure that we 
are fully prepared to deploy them into our communities.
    I think that is exactly the type of model that needs to be 
used in other programs in infrastructure, because for too long, 
we have focused on the new shiny equipment or the new shining 
bridge without focusing on the people that are going to be 
critical to operating it, building it, and maintaining it.
    Ms. Titus. Thank you. I agree with that.
    In addition to buses, we have been hearing a lot about two-
man crews on railroads, and we hear about how the trains have--
there are so fewer now than there used to be, so many fewer 
people working than there used to be, so many stock buybacks as 
opposed to supporting a workforce.
    Isn't that kind of part of the problem with the supply 
chain, is the lack of personnel or qualified personnel or 
personnel that is stoned, as we heard, in trucks, that sort of 
thing? Could you describe that a little bit for us?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. I think there is a direct correlation 
between the workforce reductions that we saw in rail and the 
disruptions in service that we saw pretty severely over the 
last few years. And that has been pointed to by the customers 
from the railroads as well. If you go to the Surface 
Transportation Board hearings, a lot of trade associations, 
from agriculture, from energy, from chemical companies, pointed 
to the insufficient workforce numbers as the number one cause 
for why there were delays and why they couldn't move their 
goods to market. So, I do think that is a really pressing issue 
that needs to be addressed.
    And when it comes to two-person crew, we support the 
Federal rulemaking that is underway right now. We are glad to 
see that this is being treated as a safety issue, which to us, 
it truly is. If you ask any one of our members who operate a 
train, the crew size is a vital safety issue to making sure 
that they can operate these upwards of 3-mile-long trains that 
go through every community in this country in a very safe 
manner.
    Ms. Titus. Well, thank you. And I will yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Mr. Mast.
    Mr. Mast. Thank you, Chairman.
    My comments/questions today are primarily for Mr. Spear and 
Mr. Guenther. Speak a little bit about trucking, some of the 
issues related specifically--sorry. It is hard to see you 
around Mr. Owens' head right here. He is a big guy. I can 
barely see you over there.
    Thanks, Burgess. I appreciate it.
    So, talk about a couple of things on this. We identified as 
an issue in this way, when you are looking at goods coming into 
port--and by the way, I will pause and say I was glad to hear 
you talk about the 80,000 driver shortage. Not that I am glad 
that exists, but I was glad to hear you speak about it.
    So, we look at goods coming into port and say, if those 
goods were taken out of port in some of these States, they 
could go from the place they were dropped off to somewhere else 
in the State, and you could have a CDL driver between the ages 
of 18 and 20. They, in some States, don't have to hit that 21-
year-old threshold. But you can't have somebody take the goods 
out of port and then take them to somewhere else in the State 
if they don't reach that 21-year-old age threshold because of 
the interstate commerce that that is associated with.
    So, I certainly don't look at this as an issue that solves, 
by any means, everything that is going on with trucker and 
driver shortage, but I would love to hear your thoughts on that 
specifically as a lane, adjusting the age for bringing goods 
out of port to other places in the State for CDL drivers 
between the age of 18 to 21 to add a little bit to that 
workforce. Would love to hear you guys comment on that.
    Mr. Spear. Go ahead, please.
    Mr. Guenther. So, thank you for that question, Congressman 
Mast. As one of the largest container ports in the country and 
one that is served primarily by truckers, we certainly--99 
percent of the volume that comes to our port is by truckers, 
yes. We live by the fact that we think truckers have the right 
to make a good living. So, increasing the availability, that we 
saw in availability, that we saw to the pandemic, I think, 
certainly adds to and it is a good thing for moving cargo and 
commerce. We would certainly support that.
    But somebody said earlier, as long as they were certified 
and trained and doing whatever, which I am sure they would be, 
I think any additional trucking workforce moving goods to and 
from our port would be welcome.
    Mr. Mast. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear?
    Mr. Spear. Yes. I think the keyword there is ``training.'' 
From our perspective, making certain that that block of talent 
can safely and responsibly operate the equipment, whether it is 
across State lines or not. We would want that in any of the 49 
States. That was the beauty of the DRIVE Safe Act. I think you 
are working on legislation that is really intended to tap into 
this talent pool.
    And we have an aging workforce, higher than the national 
average. As they exit, if we do not replace those drivers, that 
78,000 is going to increase to 150,000 over the next 8 to 10 
years. And that is unacceptable. Our ability to service this 
economy is going to be inhibited if we don't bring in new 
talent.
    So, training them, leveraging technology, ensuring that 
they have the ability to competently operate this equipment, 
and grow in our industry. The pay is remarkable. It is 
averaging around $70,000 with full benefits, without a college 
degree and all the debt that comes with it. So, we believe that 
this is a viable workforce of the future, if we can tap into 
that and compete. No differently than our military. And we 
train 18- to 20-year-olds to do the unthinkable. Hopefully they 
don't have to. I think we can teach young people how to operate 
this equipment safely.
    Mr. Mast. Mr. Spear, I will make one other quick comment on 
this just reflectively, and if you have a response, by all 
means give it. But we are the tradesmen committee. We deal with 
building things vertically, horizontally. Tradesmen of all 
kinds. If somebody were to get into one of those trade programs 
to be a journeyman for X, Y, Z coming right out of high school, 
the fact of the matter is, it is less likely that that is going 
to be their pursuit: trucking and moving our goods. But if 
somebody has that same availability at the same level at that 
age, then you are probably going to get to capture more 
individuals, instead of them moving to one of the other 
journeymen professions, hypothetically?
    Mr. Spear. Yes, absolutely. And I think the apprenticeship 
program, the national apprenticeship program that was put forth 
by the Biden administration--we worked for 4 years with the 
Trump administration to produce this product. We finally got it 
done. This is the gold standard of training. Any company, any 
member of ours that amplifies apprenticeship programs that are 
nationally registered, that is the gold standard. It shows that 
that employer really is focused on training, giving that 
employee the skill sets that they are going to need to be 
successful long term.
    So, I think replicating that is a no-brainer, and we are 
really, really pleased to have that national Registered 
Apprenticeship Program up and running.
    Mr. Mast. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Crawford [presiding]. Thank you, Mr. Mast.
    Ms. Wilson, you are recognized.
    Ms. Wilson of Florida. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Graves 
and Ranking Member Larsen, for holding today's hearing.
    As founder and chair of the Florida Ports Caucus, the state 
of our Nation's infrastructure and supply chain have long been 
among my top priorities because of their impact on jobs. As a 
newly elected Congresswoman in 2011, I created a door sign that 
read: ``Today marks''--and the number of days--``without the 
passage of a jobs bill.''
    It took 3,970 days, or more than 10 years, but finally, 
under President Biden's leadership, Congress finally passed a 
landmark, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law that supports the level 
of job creation that I long sought. The Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law, along with the American Rescue Plan and 
Inflation Reduction Act, delivered the resources to rebuild our 
infrastructure and address the supply chain crisis.
    I am especially proud to have been one of five Members 
selected to cosponsor this historic infrastructure bill. 
Consequently, Florida is receiving $18 billion to update our 
highways, bridges, transit, seaports, and airports.
    Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen, I look forward 
to working with you on a bipartisan infrastructure legislation.
    With that, I have a few questions.
    Mr. Regan, thank you for bringing attention to the bridge 
improvement projects authorized by the IIJA. In my district we 
have Broad Causeway Bridge, which connects mainland Miami-Dade 
to various cities on the beaches. The Broad Causeway is looking 
to use that funding to update the bridge and increase 
accessibility.
    Can you explain how discretionary grant funding has 
benefited the men and women of the TTD?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Thank you for that question.
    The grant programs--and we are starting to see the money 
really flow now--are just critical towards advancing especially 
the building and construction trades that I represent.
    But the bridge programs in particular, you look at the 
number of structurally deficient bridges around this country 
that have been highlighted by the American Society of Civil 
Engineers, I mean, we need--this is a--it is an epidemic in 
this country that we have so many bridges that are not safe to 
drive on right now.
    And getting this money out quickly and getting it with 
expert union workforce operating on these bridges is going to 
be critical to making sure that we have both a more efficient, 
but also a safer system in this country.
    Ms. Wilson of Florida. Thank you.
    Mr. Firth, you stated in your testimony that without the 
IIJA, States would have to cut roughly 20 to 30 percent of 
their projects.
    Can you provide examples of the projects that you were able 
to complete because of the IIJA grant programs?
    Mr. Firth. We haven't had any IIJA projects yet. We 
anticipate, though, here in 2023 that they will be coming out. 
So, I don't have any examples for you.
    Ms. Wilson of Florida. OK. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear, in your testimony you mentioned years of 
infrastructure neglect. Can you highlight how the IIJA has 
improved working conditions for drivers?
    Mr. Spear. Well, I think, as I mentioned, congestion is a 
significant concern, not only in terms of the $75 billion that 
we lose just sitting idle, but the amount of time a driver 
spends sitting idle. That is a lot of time to think about maybe 
doing something different with their life.
    Moving goods from A to B efficiently is good. It burns less 
fuel, it is less emissions, it gets the product where it needs 
to be. That means we also pay less for it. So, inflation goes 
down.
    But the impact that it has on the driver, I can't think of 
anything worse, maybe even the dentist, that I would rather not 
do than sit in traffic. And 425,000 drivers sitting idle for an 
entire year, that is unacceptable.
    So, the IIJA has the potential to really target those top 
100 bottlenecks and find ways to alleviate that, get the trucks 
moving, whether there are more lanes, but get the cars and 
trucks moving. That is going to be a huge factor.
    Ms. Wilson of Florida. Thank you.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Burchett, you are recognized.
    Mr. Burchett. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I have some very hard-hitting questions on COVID, but I 
realized I am not in the Oversight and Accountability Committee 
right now. So, when I get to the Oversight and Accountability 
Committee, I will ask some hard-hitting transportation 
questions, Mr. Chairman.
    And I do want to thank you all. And I always wonder why we 
always thank you all for holding these meetings when it is your 
dadgum job to hold these meetings. I mean, I don't understand 
that. That is probably why I am not at the schmooze levels that 
some of these other guys are. But, anyway, take note.
    Mr. Firth, you stated that Federal agencies under the Biden 
administration are systematically reversing streamlining 
reforms to the National Environmental Policy Act and are 
introducing additional requirements to delay infrastructure 
projects.
    I am wondering, do these changes by the administration 
increase these project costs?
    Mr. Firth. Absolutely. The longer that the permitting 
process goes on, it is less projects that are getting out to be 
constructed. That is where different risks as a contractor we 
have to be thinking about when it comes to the permitting 
process.
    Projects for me, working in the Pacific Northwest, for 
instance, I will give you the example, fish windows for us. So, 
we have to work in the water, say, from July to October. When 
those projects are being developed, they are usually having to 
get out to bid, say, 2 months before right now, so, in the 
fall. And if for some reason that permitting process gets 
missed or whatnot, it might delay the project another year or 
whatnot.
    So, I don't know if that answers your question.
    Mr. Burchett. It does.
    Why do you think these bureaucrats are making it so 
difficult for working folks to complete these infrastructure 
projects, just out of meanness or justifying their job? I don't 
know. You tell me, brother.
    Mr. Firth. I don't have an answer, I guess.
    Mr. Burchett. You're afraid to answer? Afraid to get a 
project delayed?
    Mr. Firth. Yes.
    Mr. Burchett. See my buddy Sullivan back there, he is not 
smiling. He is like, ``Oh, crap, Burchett, don't say anything 
else.''
    Well, could the environmental permitting reform speed 
project delivery or lower project costs and still protect the 
environment?
    Mr. Firth. I think so. I think there is definitely an 
opportunity there for concurrent reviews and having both sides 
work hand in hand. I guess one thing that I always think about 
is, is that we need the permits to build the projects. So, in 
order to get all this done there has got to be a little bit of 
give and take. So, yes.
    Mr. Burchett. All right. I will let you off the hook for a 
little while. How about that?
    Mr. Firth. Thank you.
    Mr. Burchett. You are welcome.
    Mr. Spear, you like to talk. I am going to give you an 
opportunity again.
    I am concerned that this administration's EV charging 
programs could discourage private investment and would increase 
electricity prices for our ratepayers. And it would leave 
drivers waiting in remote parking lots and rest areas.
    What are your thoughts on that?
    Mr. Spear. I think we need a realistic timeline. That 
starts with an honest discussion. I really do. I think that 
this rush to net zero is missing a lot of key elements that we 
all need to be talking about.
    Let's just say that we have all the infrastructure across 
the country to charge. Let's just say right now that it is all 
in place. Where is the power going to come from that goes into 
the charging stations? Nobody seems to want to talk about that.
    We will consume, just our 4 percent of the vehicles on the 
road, will consume 40 percent of all power to charge.
    Mr. Burchett. In Tennessee it comes from nukes, coal power, 
and hydroelectric.
    Mr. Spear. Wherever. But it has got to happen.
    Mr. Burchett. Yes.
    Mr. Spear. If you are going to have the power to go into 
it, if you are going to make us do this, then we are going to 
need the power. But also, beyond that, where do the minerals 
come from for a 5,000-pound battery?
    Mr. Burchett. Slave labor, mostly.
    Mr. Spear. Child labor.
    Mr. Burchett. I have another question along those lines. I 
wonder, do you feel like when we did this rush to do this, this 
Government was going to put all these charging stations. And in 
my area I worry about the entrepreneurs, the mom and pops who 
built these truckstops and gas stations and invested their 
hard-earned dollars, and now yours and my tax dollars are going 
to put something out on the interstate somewhere that is 
unsafe, unregulated into--well, overregulated by the 
Government, and not very well thought of.
    What do you think?
    Mr. Spear. Look, I think that the markets have to dictate 
this. Markets reflect reality, and these timelines that we are 
facing don't. And we need an honest discussion about getting 
there.
    Because what is going to happen when we get to these 
timelines, like California, 2035, that is 12 years away? It is 
going to fail. It is going to be embarrassing. They are going 
to be issuing all these exemptions because they rushed to zero 
and didn't take into account all these realities.
    And what I am saying to you is, we are going to get there 
eventually, let's just be realistic about it. And I think what 
we are dealing with right now is impactful on the supply chain 
and what we pay, inflation, because we are not going to be able 
to deliver the goods because we don't have the equipment to do 
it.
    Mr. Burchett. My time is up. Mr. Chairman, I yield back no 
time.
    Mr. Crawford. I would love to yield you another 5 minutes 
just for the entertainment value, but I need to go to Mr. 
Carbajal.
    Mr. Burchett. Our ratings would go way up. I understand now 
two people are watching this back home.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. And I would object. And I would 
object.
    Mr. Burchett. I know you would, Mr. Chairman--Mr. Ranking 
Member. Excuse me.
    Mr. Crawford. Mr. Carbajal, you are recognized.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Crawford. Correction. I am sorry, Mr. Carbajal. Mr. 
Payne is actually next.
    Mr. Carbajal. I thought I was getting ahead. Thank you.
    Mr. Crawford. So did Mr. Payne.
    Mr. Payne. I got worried there for a minute.
    But thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And I would like to thank Chairman Graves and Ranking 
Member Larsen for their leadership.
    And just a quick note. Mr. Spear, Mr. Jefferies, I am glad 
the point that you made in reference to trucking and rail 
working together. I need you to think about this as a relay 
team, as opposed to an adversarial relationship. The rail has 
the baton, and they pass the baton to the trucking to get to 
the finish line. So, please let's look at this in that manner.
    I appreciate you calling this hearing today so we can 
examine the challenges facing our transportation network. Last 
year, the Railroads, Pipelines, and Hazardous Materials 
Subcommittee held two hearings to examine rail service delivery 
problems.
    The Surface Transportation Board held an emergency 2-day 
hearing on freight rail shipping delays and their impact on 
Americans. Rail shipping delays over the past years have 
resulted in shortages in the agriculture and energy sectors. 
Freight railroads have halted shipments to certain parts of the 
country because they lack the capacity to provide adequate 
service.
    As a result of these problems, the Surface Transportation 
Board has had to issue emergency service orders and service 
recovery plans to ensure that freight railroads are serving 
their customers.
    Mr. Jefferies, a yes or no, please. Do you feel that 
freight railroads have enough workers to handle the current 
demand for rail shipping?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, certainly that has been front of mind 
over the past year. And you are right, we certainly had 
significant service challenges over portions of the last few 
years.
    Mr. Payne. So, is that a yes?
    Mr. Jefferies. I am getting to that.
    Mr. Payne. Well, that is really in the interest of time.
    Mr. Jefferies. Sure thing. We have been hiring aggressively 
over the past 18 months, and we continue to hire in certain 
regions around the country, so, we are still leaning into that 
and those efforts still continue.
    Mr. Payne. Thank you.
    The Surface Transportation Board says that long-haul 
intermodal truck traffic has grown 20 percent more than rail. 
Between April and September of 2022, the four big railroads 
added just 420 total train and engine employees--420--an 
increase of less than 1 percent.
    Mr. Jefferies, we will try it again. Yes or no, are the 
railroads scaling back hiring plans due to softening demand?
    Mr. Jefferies. We continue to hire as we stand here today 
and that number is actually 9 percent year over year when it 
comes to employee increases of T&E.
    Mr. Payne. So, you are saying it is more than 420?
    Mr. Jefferies. I am sorry?
    Mr. Payne. You are saying it was more than 420?
    Mr. Jefferies. I am saying that.
    Mr. Payne. OK. We will check that.
    And with the time I have remaining, I would like to ask Mr. 
Regan, who represents these workers, if his members shared the 
assessment of the state of the freight railroad industry. And 
if not, how do the men and women working for freight see the 
state of their industry?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you for the question.
    I think, as we saw very clearly last year, the morale among 
freight rail workers has never been lower, at least in my 
experience. They are frustrated, they feel overworked. A lot of 
the focus on attendance policy, and, yes, sick leave and other 
issues, I think are a direct result of the insufficient 
workforce levels.
    I think if we are able to deal with some of those and 
continue to improve on some of the gains that were made in that 
contract that was resolved, I think that we will start to turn 
the industry around.
    And I assure you, nobody wants to see a growing, more 
robust freight rail industry than the members that I represent. 
They are proud to be railroaders and they want to continue to 
do it, but they need to see a change in the operating 
mechanisms right now, in the operating systems, so that they 
can return some degree of quality of life to their work.
    Mr. Payne. Thank you.
    And with the few seconds that I have left, I would be 
remiss if I didn't mention that I am going to continue the 
effort. It is good that the salaries went up fivefold, but that 
was not what the workers were asking for. They were asking for 
sick time, and that is something that we need to address.
    It is great that their incomes have gone up, but they were 
interested in sick time, as probably all of you sitting at that 
panel have in your capacities, in your positions. And they 
deserve it as well. And I will continue to fight for that.
    And with that, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Garret Graves, you are recognized.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
    It has been interesting. Last Congress, we had the 
infrastructure bill and we spent, gosh, I think 24 hours or so 
in this committee marking up a bill that, with the exception of 
a handful of provisions, was largely ignored and a Senate bill 
became law.
    There is no question we have a supply chain problem. There 
is no question we have a labor shortage. There is no question 
that we have inflation issues. There is no question that what 
is happening with energy prices is having a profound impact on 
your industry, on the ability to carry out logistics around the 
United States and around the world.
    But when I look at legislation like the IIJA, the 
infrastructure bill that became law last Congress, I look at 
things like mandates on trying to transition us to electric 
vehicles. I look at simple math problems where you literally 
could not produce enough minerals to develop the battery 
storage or the electric engines or other things that are 
required under the bill. And then I look at the problem we are 
having in supply chain right now where we are not investing in 
roads because funds have been diverted to EV charging stations 
or other things.
    And the reality is that the legislation has exacerbated the 
problem that you are already experiencing in your industry: 
trying to get goods around the United States and around the 
world.
    And so, one of the things--and I know the chairman shares 
my concern--is that we are going to be looking at kind of how 
to recalibrate that bill and reprioritize the dollars in places 
where they are actually needed to complement your efforts to 
address supply chain issues and again try to address the worker 
shortage and other challenges that we have.
    I want to--I am going to take the conversation a little 
different. One of the things, I think, lessons we have learned 
from what has happened with energy over the past couple of 
years, we have moved in a direction first that made us more 
dependent upon Russia for oil, and that hasn't worked out so 
well. Now looking at where we are being forced into a renewable 
energy direction.
    And I want to be crystal clear, I support renewable energy 
technologies, I support reducing emissions, but I also support 
doing it in a way that makes sense. And what we are doing right 
now is we are forcing greater dependence upon countries like 
China.
    And I am curious if any of you have thoughts on how we 
should be looking at this a little bit differently. For 
example, looking at NATO or NATO Plus as more than just a 
military organization, looking at it like a supply chain and an 
economic alliance as well.
    And that way we have more secure, more allied resources 
that we are dependent upon, and we are not subjecting ourselves 
to the volatility of some of these countries that we are not 
friends with, that are simply going to use their resources as 
leverage, as we have seen China do with some of the critical 
mineral markets they have cornered around the world, including 
processing and refining of those minerals.
    Anyone?
    Mr. Spear. I think sourcing is key. If you are going to 
build out a transition to an alternative source of energy, say 
electric, those batteries are going to have to have the 
minerals. And it is not coming from China, it is not going to 
come from Congo. So, where are we going to get them? It is 
going to have to come from here in North America.
    So, these are key questions, and they take time to develop, 
not just 12 years, but beyond. And we are fine in transitioning 
to that as the market dictates. I think there has to be some 
give and take with that. Rushing to zero is going to cause 
havoc within the supply chain and economy if we are not careful 
about it.
    But I hear what you are saying about friends. You are 
creating good trade relationships. We haven't seen too many 
trade agreements come down the pipe lately. And I think we 
really need to focus on shoring that up.
    If we are going to transition away from China, we are going 
to have issues with Europe, certainly about sourcing in Africa, 
then we need to have better, stronger trade agreements that 
allow us access to these minerals and can manufacture sensitive 
things here at home. That is going to be very key.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you. And I want to make note 
that you said transitioning to zero is effectively going to be 
painful. And I want to make note that the United States has led 
the world in reducing emissions. For every ton of emissions we 
have reduced, China has gone up by four. We are not headed in 
the right direction. All we are doing is penalizing the U.S. 
economy at the same time.
    Anyone else?
    Mr. Jefferies. I would align my comments with Mr. Spear's 
that energy security is all about working with trusted allies, 
stable allies, and identifying trusted sources for the 
materials we need.
    We all, I think, are headed in the same direction when it 
comes to reducing emissions and alternative forms of energy. 
But while we work on that path, we have got to maintain stable, 
trusted resources for the fuels that supply us today.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you.
    And I know Mr. Stauber is probably chomping at the bit 
looking at this forced direction into renewable energy 
technologies, while at the same time shutting down two mining 
operations in Minnesota, one in Arizona. It seems entirely 
incompatible or even contradictory with the objectives of the 
legislation and some of the stated commitments in terms of 
targets and reductions. So, we certainly need to be thinking 
about this a little bit differently.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, Mr. Graves.
    Mr. DeSaulnier, you are recognized.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. Thank you. And I will say thank you to the 
chair and the vice chair for having this hearing.
    The context of my comments, I want the panel to realize and 
my colleagues, it is in getting this investment right, who 
benefits from it. I am not against private equity getting a 
reasonable rate of return. It is an important partnership. But 
I would argue that right now we are at the most historical 
divergence between capital as a percentage of GDP and wages. 
So, we have got to reduce that and create a new middle class 
that President Eisenhower championed.
    So, that context, on the air quality side. Sorry my 
colleague left. As a former air regulator in California, I am 
one of those bureaucrats. I think we were motivated--and I was 
a Republican at the time--by doing what the Clean Air Act said, 
which was signed by a Republican California President, Richard 
Nixon, and updated by a Republican California President that 
created the waiver, the California waiver.
    So, this isn't 12 years in the future, as I look at it. 
George Deukmejian, who was Governor in the 1980s, a Republican 
conservative, he introduced a zero-emission vehicle.
    So, Mr. Spear, you know that we have been working at this 
for a long time. The challenges are not unknown to California. 
Most of the reductions that my colleague just referred to came 
because of the California waiver and the 12 or so States who 
join us under that waiver.
    So, in that context, Mr. Spear, you mentioned President 
Eisenhower. One of my favorite quotes by President Eisenhower, 
he said: ``Only a fool would try to deprive working men and 
women of the right to join the union of their choice.'' And 
President Eisenhower said that when GDP was at historic records 
because we were building an amazing middle class.
    So, President Reagan--another President Reagan--started 
cash buybacks or started the acceleration on open-market 
buybacks.
    So, what is the right rate of return for an investor and a 
taxpayer and an employee, a worker, a union worker under Davis-
Bacon, for Congress to be looking at? And this is in the 
context of--and I am not specifically saying rate of return, I 
would just like you to talk about your members and the 
multiplier.
    As a former small business owner, the multiplier for every 
one of your jobs, if memory serves me, is about 13, 14, which 
all goes out to small businesses in rural and urban areas.
    So, it is really important that your investors get a 
reasonable rate of return, but that Main Street gets a 
reasonable rate of return, if we are going to rebuild that 
middle class.
    So, just for instance, the rail industry has had more open-
market cash buybacks in 2021 than ever before, you are more 
profitable than ever before. Granted, you are a semi-utility, 
so, the profit margin is smaller. But there is historically 
supposed to be low-risk, reasonable return, not low-risk, high 
return, from my perspective.
    Chevron, which is headquartered, back to the environmental 
question, in my district, has a lot of employees. They just did 
$75 billion in cash buybacks on the back of inflated gas prices 
during COVID. That is not going back in the refinery in the 
county I represent. That is going off.
    UP did $4.6 billion in cash buybacks in 1 year--no, wait, 
$4.6 billion in payroll and benefits, but they did $6.3 billion 
in cash buybacks.
    So, Mr. Regan, could you talk a little more about what you 
said in your introduction about the balance between returning 
that investment to the workforce and capital investment in the 
infrastructure versus it going back to the shareholder at 
obscene rates of return?
    Mr. Regan. Yes, thank you for that question.
    I think that as we are looking at investing, especially the 
sums of money we are talking about right now with the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, we should be using it 
as an opportunity to rebuild the middle class and ultimately to 
invest in the people in this country.
    And to your point, when people have a stable wage, when 
they have a middle-class wage and good benefits, they are 
returning that money into their local economy. They are 
spending it at their local stores, at the local small 
businesses. They are sending their kids to college. They are 
doing all these things because they have the opportunity, they 
have a wage that allows them do that.
    And when you look at certainly a lot of the industries that 
I represent, even the private sector, we are the antidote to 
this idea that unions kill businesses.
    Look at the airline industry where they were at the highest 
profitability they had been in their history before the 
pandemic, and that is 85, 90 percent unionized right now. 
Railroads are at the highest profitability they have been in 
the history of railroading. They are wall-to-wall unionized.
    We can be really good partners in advancing a better 
system, but we also are going to expect that our members are 
paid fairly.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Stauber, you are recognized.
    Mr. Stauber. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. Great 
conversation.
    I know the supply chains have been really a big issue, in 
particular under this administration, and the decisions 
thereof.
    And I want to say great work to all of you for doing what 
you need to do, making the decisions that you need to make to 
overcome this.
    Mr. Graves was talking about supply chains and with respect 
to critical minerals. But before I get into that, Mr. Spear, I 
just have to make a comment.
    I appreciate what you said. Three weeks ago, a friend of 
mine took his brandnew electric pickup truck down to the 
Vikings game, U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. Plugged it in 
on a charger during the game. Unfortunately, we lost. He lives 
164 miles north of Minneapolis. He had to stop twice for 45 
minutes each to charge his vehicle. So, it took him 2\1/2\ 
times the travel time to get home.
    To your point, we have to link that conversation. And in 
linking the conversation, we have to talk about critical 
minerals and supply chains.
    The Duluth Complex, located in northern Minnesota, has 95 
percent of our Nation's nickel reserves, 88 percent of our 
Nation's cobalt reserves, over one-third of the copper and 
other platinum group metals. This administration just banned 
mining in northern Minnesota for 20 years.
    Mr. Regan, they are my friends, they are union jobs, 
project labor agreements. Where are we going to get these? And 
I am telling you what right now, I think you all know this, our 
adversaries that control the critical minerals, it is going to 
dry up for us. They are not going to sell. They are going to 
pinch the United States, and we cannot get these mines up 
overnight.
    So, I am asking your industry to push back against this 
anti-mining stance from this administration.
    And it is not only in northern Minnesota--where, by the 
way, we have mined taconite, that makes over 80 percent of the 
iron ore--or 80 percent of the steel in this country, which is 
a national security and a strategic national security interest 
to build our roads and bridges.
    We have to bring that sourcing back. I hear everyone during 
their testimony and reading their testimony. We have to control 
the destiny of this country in the palm of our own hands with 
the natural resources that we are blessed with.
    We have an administration, in October of 2020, then-
candidate Joe Biden said we are going to mine these critical 
minerals domestically. What? We thought that was awesome for 
northern Minnesota, awesome for our miners across this country.
    What did he just do? He took out the opportunity to mine 
these minerals here under the best environmental standards and 
the best labor standards.
    Just over a month ago, he signed a memorandum of 
understanding with the Congo, which has 15 of the 19 mines 
owned by the Chinese Government. This is where we are supposed 
to get our critical minerals? Give me a break.
    This is a dangerous administration to our country when it 
comes to supply chain and critical minerals and mining. The 
anti-jobs and anti-mining stance has to stop. And you, I am 
asking you and your associations to help. As an association, 
push back on this anti-mining stance, push back on us relying 
on adversarial nations for our critical minerals and their 
processing.
    And we talked about reforms. Should it take 10 years to 
build a bridge? Should it take 10 years to build a bridge in 
California, Minnesota? Should it take 20 years to open up a 
mine in northern Minnesota? In the same watershed the country 
of Canada, our friend, opened up a gold mine, same watershed, 
in 3 years.
    Please do your part and push back. I will help you advocate 
for that.
    We lost multigenerational union jobs because of that 
political decision. Didn't even let an environmental impact 
statement move forward--that is the process--for political 
reasons. Killed great-paying jobs for my constituents.
    So, I am asking on behalf of the mining community, on 
behalf of our strategic national security, you have a voice in 
this, and join me.
    And I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Carbajal, you are recognized.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Regan, we know that to maintain a healthy supply chain 
we need to continue to support the Jones Act, cargo preference, 
and Maritime Security Program. The pandemic was a perfect 
example of the need to move away from relying on foreign 
carriers and mariners.
    As chair and now ranking member of the Coast Guard and 
Maritime Transportation Subcommittee, I have been a supporter 
of bolstering our U.S. maritime sector.
    Can you expand on the benefits of enforcing and expanding 
the programs that bolster the U.S. maritime industry, including 
the Jones Act, cargo preference, and Maritime Security Program?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you so much for the question.
    You just named the three-legged stool that keeps our 
maritime system afloat as it is. But even with that, we have 
over 98 percent of all goods that go into and out of U.S. ports 
are shipped on foreign-flagged vessels. We have simply ceded 
away any sort of sealift capacity to our competitors.
    And we see, frankly, the consequences of that when, for 
example, we are trying to get goods out, there is a shortage of 
containers, there is a shortage of space on board ships, and 
they are not taking our goods.
    What we need to be doing is instead of trying to whittle 
away at these programs like cargo preference, we need to be 
fully enforcing them. We need to be advocating for more U.S.-
built vessels. We need to be advocating to ensure that every 
time we are shipping goods overseas on the Government dime that 
we are doing it on a U.S.-flagged vessel with U.S. mariners.
    Because once we do that and we start expanding their 
capacity, we are going to generate more business and we are 
going to grow the mariner population, and we will be more 
competitive and less reliant on foreign shipping conglomerates.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan, I continue to read industry reports about the 
ongoing mariner shortage and the lack of new mariners entering 
the industry. This is obviously an issue of deep concern.
    Simply put, the current mariner shortage is a national 
security issue, as you pointed out as well, and that the 
Department of Defense cannot do its job if the maritime 
industry cannot supply enough mariners to support the DoD 
sealift readiness capacity for contingencies such as global 
conflicts.
    While I understand that the core of this issue has to deal 
with recruitment and retention, what can Congress do in the 
short and long term to shore up the pool of qualified mariners 
working in the industry?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you.
    In the short term obviously we need to invest in the 
training schools that are out there. It does take 10 years for 
an entry-level mariner to become a chief engineer or a captain. 
So, there is a growth period there.
    But one thing we can do to attract more people into the 
industry certainly is to improve the onboard experience for 
mariners, so that we have to have better connectivity so people 
can speak with their family, better access to internet.
    We also need to make sure that it is a safer environment. I 
think there was a lot of publicity about some really horrific 
sexual assault allegations that happened on board ships, and 
that has absolutely no place in the U.S. maritime industry.
    And if we don't address some of those problems, and I know 
the unions I represent are focused on making sure that that 
never happens again, we are basically casting aside half of our 
population who would be potential mariners for what is a very 
good job, one you can go see the world with.
    And so, we need to make sure it is a safer, better 
workplace for everybody.
    And then, finally, I think we need to invest in more 
opportunities so that there are options for shoreside work for 
employees so that we can have a continued pool of mariners that 
are available to operate on ships but continue to do that work 
if there are not opportunities at that very moment.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you. I was going to ask you to say 
shoreside 10 times, but I won't.
    Mr. Regan, while the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law provides 
over $60 billion in Federal dollars for rail infrastructure, I 
know we need to do more to improve passenger rail and freight 
rail services.
    In your testimony, I know you highlighted the need to 
invest in workers. Can you delve into what that means, what you 
mean by that?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. I think, again, going back to what I said 
earlier about making sure that we are investing in the 
workforce while we invest in expanded services. And I certainly 
believe that the money that was invested into Amtrak through 
the infrastructure law is going to be the catapult to get us 
towards a true national passenger rail system and one that is 
more efficient and a better option for people in communities 
large and small. But we do need to have a workforce to be able 
to do that.
    I am very happy to see that Amtrak is aggressively hiring. 
They had a goal of 4,000 people in fiscal year 2023 in order to 
hire that many new people into Amtrak. They hired over 3,000 
people last year.
    When I talk to Stephen Gardner, the CEO of Amtrak, that is 
the number one thing on his mind, is how do we hire more people 
into the railroad.
    And so, I think that as we start doing that and 
demonstrating this is another really good middle-class job, we 
will have the workforce to make a passenger rail system that we 
can be proud of in this country.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am out of time. I 
yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Nehls, you are recognized.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I would like to thank the witnesses for being here today. I 
think this is wonderful. We are all together, meeting in 
person. Just what a treat that is.
    And it is no secret that the transportation sector has 
experienced a series of supply chain issues, some resulting 
from the pandemic and others obviously resulting from the 
policies of this administration.
    And so, Mr. Guenther, certainly good to see you, sir. Good 
to see you this morning.
    My question to you is from a port perspective. What is the 
best investment we can make today to minimize another supply 
chain crisis in the future?
    Mr. Guenther. Thank you for your question, Congressman. 
Talked about it a little bit today, making those investments in 
the channel again and the operation and maintenance, but also 
making the investments of future development of our ports and 
waterways.
    So, we talk about seaports are a critical link, they are 
served by the waterside with our channels but also on the 
landside. And looking for those opportunities to continue to 
grow to efficiently handle our cargo is very important.
    And it was mentioned earlier about the IIJA and the amount 
of funding that has been made available in the last $2 billion, 
I believe, in fiscal year 2022 and $1 billion in fiscal year 
2023. But to maintain our channel, for instance, we have got 
$12 million for the Houston Ship Channel.
    So, we have to emphasize, if I answer your question, we 
have to emphasize the important things, whether it is on the 
waterside, whether it is on the landside, to make sure that we 
keep freight moving.
    Mr. Nehls. Yes. And in your testimony it says that the 
Houston Ship Channel has been underfunded by 50 to 60 percent 
as it relates to O&M dollars. Is that correct?
    Mr. Guenther. That is correct.
    Mr. Nehls. All right.
    It is my understanding also that draft restrictions are 
going to occur in March. What changes do I and others of the 
Houston delegation, Houston Members, need to be aware of to 
prevent this from happening again? In other words, what is the 
long-term fix for this issue?
    Mr. Guenther. Well, the short-term fix is inevitable. We 
talked about it, hey, do we throw money at it to fix this? But 
the long-term solution is looking at the need based upon the 
tonnage that is served by these waterways, like the Houston 
Ship Channel, and making sure that those dollars are invested 
to keep the channel maintained to its authorized depth and 
width, and we have to do that.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, sir. I can assure you that you have 
my attention.
    Mr. Jefferies, I would like to zero in on regulations 
affecting the rail industry. Often we hear about automated 
technologies in the transportation sector with media coverage 
and attention given to the other industries, like the autos and 
drones.
    In your testimony you mentioned ATI, which is automated 
track inspection, has resulted in some instances more than a 
90-percent reduction in the rate of unprotected main track 
defects found.
    So, my question is, how is FRA preventing railroads from 
implementing these kinds of safety-enhancing technologies? And 
can you provide some examples, sir, how this sort of technology 
reduces supply chain issues?
    Mr. Jefferies. Sure, that is a great question.
    The role of a safety regulator should be pretty simple: to 
advance safety, to advance safety in an objective, data-driven, 
transparent way, not to call in political favors, not to play 
politics, not to seek other outcomes.
    And we are running into roadblocks in deploying 
technologies and advancing innovation in this industry that has 
undeniable safety benefits.
    Automated track inspection allows a railroad to inspect 
vastly more track, with a vastly higher level of frequency, 
with a vastly more sensitive technology that allows for 
detecting potential defects before they become issues at 
upwards of a 90-percent higher rate.
    Undeniable safety benefits. So, you would think the 
regulator would welcome that. Well, why are we in litigation to 
be able to expand that test program--test program--to continue 
to build out the data set, to eventually roll it into the 
regulatory requirements, again modernizing the regulatory 
process?
    Two, the crew size NPRM has come up. Again, the role of a 
safety regulator should be to advance safety. There is 
absolutely no data in that NPRM to support the rule moving 
forward, there is no safety outcome. And if it is a safety 
issue, why doesn't it apply to passenger railroads?
    Mr. Nehls. And I am looking forward to hearing more.
    I am going to end with this. It doesn't get much attention, 
but I think it is relevant since we are discussing supply chain 
issues.
    Bathroom access for truckers. I said, what the hell do you 
mean, bathroom access for truckers?
    Folks in the room, imagine you went to the office and you 
are there after a long commute. And you said, I would like to 
use the bathroom. And they say, sorry, it is not available, you 
are going to have to hold it for a couple of hours. It makes no 
sense to me. I thought it was ridiculous.
    So, we partnered with Representative Houlahan and OOIDA and 
Women In Trucking on the Trucker Bathroom Access Act to get 
this figured out. I encourage my colleagues to support this 
bipartisan legislation that ensures our truckers have access to 
a business' restroom when they are making a pickup or delivery.
    I am kind of smiling here. I said, I can't believe Congress 
has to address this issue.
    Again, it is bipartisan, just plain common sense. I will do 
everything I can to ensure this bathroom bill becomes law.
    Thank you. And I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Stanton, you are recognized.
    Mr. Stanton. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    As we continue to implement the Bipartisan Infrastructure 
Law, few States stand to benefit more than my home State of 
Arizona.
    For the communities I represent, one of the top 
infrastructure priorities for years has been the expansion of 
Interstate 10. I-10 connects Arizona's two largest cities, 
Phoenix and Tucson, and tens of thousands of people commute 
along it every day.
    But more than that, it is also a key commercial artery for 
freight traffic to and from the ports in southern California 
and for international commerce with our largest trading 
partner, Mexico.
    But despite being such a vital connection for freight and 
commuter traffic, there is still a large section, 26 miles, 
that is only two lanes.
    Every Arizonan who has taken I-10, myself included, will 
tell you that these two lanes are not enough. It causes heavy 
congestion and daily bottlenecks, and a single crash or 
disabled vehicle can back up traffic for many, many miles.
    Not only is that inefficient and costly for people doing 
business, it is a serious public safety concern.
    The need for expansion is clear, but despite a substantial 
non-Federal investment by the State and support from the local 
Tribal and business stakeholders from across the region, we 
were disappointed and, quite frankly, very frustrated not to 
receive Federal funding under the Bipartisan Infrastructure 
Law's Mega grant program to finally complete this critical 
project. And when 90 percent of the Mega grant funds were 
directed to projects east of the Mississippi, I can tell you, 
Arizonans and our regional partners feel left behind.
    Like many States, Arizona cannot meet its growing needs, 
including on projects of regional significance, like the I-10 
expansion, on its own. We need Federal support. We need a 
Federal partnership.
    It is clear to me that the allocation for Mega grants is 
not enough to advance many projects like an I-10 that must get 
done. It is my hope and expectation that I-10 will receive 
Federal support necessary to get its expansion across the 
finish line.
    My question is for Mr. Spear from the American Trucking 
Associations.
    Mr. Spear, good to see you.
    Mr. Spear. You too.
    Mr. Stanton. I understand the ATA strongly supported the 
IIJA and that the American Transportation Research Institute 
works with the Department of Transportation both to identify 
key points of congestion along our Nation's highway system and 
to quantify the impact of that congestion.
    Given the enormous amount of commerce that moves along I-10 
in Arizona, the expansion project the State has advanced has 
enormous national significance for our supply chains and for 
trucking in particular.
    Can you speak to the impacts that congestion has on supply 
chains and the importance of investment in projects like the I-
10 expansion?
    Mr. Spear. I can. Thank you.
    And I am well aware of that stretch. I have driven it. My 
wife just drove it last weekend. And it is a problem. It is one 
of the choke holds in the country that needs to be addressed.
    And it is not just safety, albeit that is the top priority. 
It is fuel burn. Fuel burn creates emissions when we are 
sitting in congestion, as I have talked about earlier. This is 
a key point the IIJA can alleviate.
    And we come out every year with the top 100 bottlenecks. 
Your State has one, as you just stated. And they are not 
difficult to track. We do this with DOT initiatives. We have 
GPS that tracks them. We can see the speeds. It is a heat map, 
shows every red spot around the country where we have 
congestion.
    If you are looking for the top 100 priorities to go after, 
alleviating the supply chain contraction, creating better 
safety, better environmental controls, go after the top 100 
bottlenecks.
    It is an easy list. It just so happens it comes out next 
week, so, stay tuned. We do this every year. We will be 
shipping it up to all of you. You can see if your districts or 
States are among them.
    There shouldn't really be any surprises in there, and that 
should be the roadmap for DOT and States to target. It will 
have such great gains for the economy, lowering inflation by 
getting goods to where they need to be faster. We are all going 
to be paying less as a result.
    So, I could not agree more that that is a good way to 
prioritize.
    Mr. Stanton. That's right. It is also an important equity 
project because much of that land where the expansion would be 
is on the Tribal community of the Gila River Indian Community 
as well.
    Thank you for that answer.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Owens, you are recognized.
    Mr. Owens. Thank you so much.
    I want to also add my thanks to the witnesses here. What a 
remarkable insight and education we are getting here.
    I am excited about being part of this committee or this 
team and adding some of the innovation and collaboration and 
the entrepreneurial spirit that Utah has to this conversation.
    A couple comments and then a question that I want to follow 
up with that Mr. Mast asked you, Mr. Spear.
    Well before coming to this industry, I had a passion to end 
and deal with sex trafficking of women and children. It is a 
passion. It is a big mission for a lot of us in Utah.
    And I will say this. Well before hearing it today, being in 
front of you guys, I have heard about how the stakeholders all 
are thankful for the trucking industry for the awareness that 
has come about throughout the years.
    Many people won't talk about it. They don't see it. But the 
industry saw it. And I have had an opportunity to meet a victim 
that was rescued through this process. So, I want to thank you 
guys for being aware and working on that.
    The other thing is, I was in the software industry for 30 
years, and I was also an independent contractor on the side. 
Why? Because it was not my goal to have another employer. I 
wanted to have my own business to one day be free of someone 
else having on their own whim drive my career.
    The greatest sector in our country is the middle class, and 
it is powered by business owners. So, let's never forget that. 
And any time we take this option away from business owners we 
are going to hurt our culture, our future, and the idea to 
dream past somebody else's whims. So, I just wanted to make 
that point.
    Mr. Mast was asking you about the workforce supply chain. 
And obviously we are talking about 18 to 21. Is there anything 
else that Congress can do or not do? As we understand, we have 
to mitigate the fact that we are graying out in all these 
industries, some kind of way we have to bring these young 
people in, knowing there is income to be made, and they can 
pursue their dream at a much lower cost getting into the 
process.
    Is there anything else we can start looking at--and I want 
to start off with you, Mr. Spear--that can help us to either 
get out of the way or to allow this process to move and get the 
supply chain moving a little bit faster with the workforce?
    Mr. Spear. I think it starts with training. Greg and I are 
actually friends. We have some differences obviously, but I 
don't think you will ever hear either one of us talk or devalue 
training, the importance of it, especially with entering 
talent.
    Whether it be 18 to 20 or anyone coming into our industry, 
we want to make certain first and foremost that they can safely 
and responsibly do their job. We want them to get home to their 
families at night safely. That is something we should all want.
    So, training is absolutely paramount and ensuring that they 
have the right standards in place across the board. Entry-level 
driver training comes to mind. This is a rulemaking that we do 
support.
    I think exemptions for certain folks to not comply with 
that, based on what segments of our industry they are in, 
create inconsistencies in that. I think we all need training. I 
go through it myself at work. We are aware of a lot of things 
in our work environment that are reoccurring every year and we 
remind ourselves of that.
    So, I can't emphasize that enough, the importance of it. 
Developing a good workforce to replace those that retire and 
exit is absolutely critical on training.
    Mr. Owens. Mr. Jefferies, would you like to add to that?
    Mr. Jefferies. Absolutely.
    The training piece is critical. We are immensely proud of 
our workforce who does a remarkable job moving America's 
freight day in and day out, doing it safely.
    And these are strong, middle-class jobs. We have 12 unions 
on our properties. Average wages and benefits of $160,000 with 
some of the best healthcare, some of the lowest employee cost 
shares of any industry out there. And that is something you can 
do on a GED. That doesn't happen a lot in this country anymore.
    And so, Greg and I are aligned on those goals. We can 
debate about a lot of things, but I think that strong, well-
compensated workforce is key.
    Chris mentioned the drug testing issue earlier. That is 
something that affects our industry equally as much. We bring 
in classes of prospective recruits. We wash out upwards of half 
of them on day 2, once they realize there are drug testing 
requirements, Federal drug regulations. We have got to continue 
to work on that front.
    And then really just at a broader level, it is all about a 
pro-innovation, regulatory modernization push, encouragement 
from this committee about really pushing technology, all in the 
advancement of safety and efficiency. It has got to be 
supported by data. If the data doesn't support it, it doesn't 
make sense.
    But really a push that looks toward the future versus 
looking backwards. We still have regulations from the steam 
engine era on our regulatory books. So, there is a lot of 
opportunity for wins.
    Mr. Owens. Well, thank you. And again, I think we realized 
over COVID that this is truly the backbone of our country, 
moving product and building the business of the middle class. 
So, thank you so much for that, and I look forward to working 
with you for sure.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Allred, you are recognized.
    Mr. Allred. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And I want to thank our witnesses for their testimony. I 
think this is an important hearing. And I look forward to 
continuing our committee's focus on alleviating supply chain 
disruptions and making sure that consumers and businesses can 
get the goods that they need.
    I am a cochair of the Supply Chain Caucus here in the 
House, and I am pleased at some of the progress that we have 
made. And I know that we have a lot more work to do.
    Mr. Guenther, I want to begin with you, because obviously 
as a Texan, not from Houston, but from Dallas, the story of the 
Port of Houston is informative, because in your testimony, as 
Mr. Nehls mentioned, you noted that the Houston Ship Channel 
has been underfunded by 50 to 60 percent, resulting in draft 
restrictions throughout the channel.
    And when we talk about important investments, like we are 
making in the IIJA, this is why we want to make these 
investments, so that we don't then, when a crisis comes along, 
have to come in here and ask you, why is the Houston Port 
Channel not operating to max efficiency?
    What does a draft restriction mean for you, just for my 
constituents back home, what does that mean for them?
    Mr. Guenther. It is pretty simple. We have a 45-foot 
operating draft and we have a 45-foot channel that goes through 
a bay that naturally wants to be 7 or 8 feet. It is continuing 
to silt in. So, if it silts in without regular funding and gets 
to 43, 42 feet or whatever, it restricts the amount of cargo 
that the ship can carry, costing more money.
    Mr. Allred. So, you have ships sitting out in deeper water 
oftentimes, right? And you will have to have----
    Mr. Guenther [interrupting]. They actually don't load 
because they know how deep the channel is before they leave 
their origin.
    Mr. Allred [interrupting]. Well, because they know they 
can't----
    Mr. Guenther [continuing]. So, that limits what they can 
put on from the beginning.
    Mr. Allred. And so, it has a cost to our overall economy. 
Obviously, as the biggest regional port, it has huge costs to 
our region. That is why these investments are so important.
    That is why I find it a little bit frustrating when people 
will say they didn't support the IIJA. This is historic 
investment. It might not be everything that you wanted. It is 
not everything that I wanted. But for the first time in 
decades, we finally said we are going to make a serious 
investment in American infrastructure, and we are going to try 
and address some of these issues.
    As you know, I have supported full Federal funding for the 
Houston Ship Channel, and I want to make sure we do that.
    And I know that there are ripple effects from your port 
that we feel all the way in Dallas. You mentioned the need for 
investments to plan for future demand to ensure incoming cargo 
has a place to go instead of sitting at the port. I know many 
of the cargo distribution centers are in my district in Dallas.
    And so, I am wondering how ports can work with other 
sectors of the supply chain to manage demand and move cargo 
more efficiently.
    Mr. Guenther. Well, thank you for that question. And we 
know Dallas is a big hub for distribution centers, and a lot of 
that cargo comes through the port.
    An example of what we have looked at is things that maybe 
we wish we would have had during the supply chain, like either 
nearby inland depots or further away to be able to move freight 
through, to move ships faster, and we didn't have that 
capability.
    We applied for a Mega grant, too, because we thought that 
that kind of met the needs of what was necessary for the supply 
chain to remain fluid in the future. We weren't selected for 
this grant cycle, but we certainly have a plan of fine-tuning 
that or whatever.
    But those types of investments, I keep talking about the 
waterside, but also it is very important on the landside, the 
opportunities to perhaps move freight more efficiently, nights, 
weekends, and utilization of off-hours and during those times. 
And that infrastructure investment is very important in making 
that happen. So, thank you for your interest in that.
    Mr. Allred. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.
    Mr. Regan, as we talk about workforce issues, I am a former 
union member myself in the NFL Players Association. To me, we 
make jobs more attractive until you get young people to go into 
them. So, it is a career that they can make a good wage in, 
they can be treated right, and they can retire with dignity.
    What do you see in the implementation of the IIJA that we 
need to be doing better by our union workforce?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Thank you for that. And I couldn't agree 
more. I think if you look at one of best ways to have job 
retention in any industry is have a union, because we are there 
fighting for you, someone has got your back.
    And for us, you look at the way we are investing, and we 
are lucky enough in transportation to have one of the highest 
union densities of any sector in this country. And that is, in 
my view, why transportation has been for so long an oasis of 
middle-class jobs, an area where too often we have seen wage 
suppression in this country.
    Transportation has high union density, and because of that 
we have a lot of people who are able to deliver for their 
families and have good wages and benefits.
    Mr. Allred. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know I went 
over. I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Yakym, you are recognized.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    It is clear that reckless spending from the last 2 years 
has stoked runaway inflation. From the food on the table to the 
table itself, to the trucks and trains transporting the food 
and tables, Americans were hit hard in the last 2 years with 
inflation.
    I am looking forward to working with my colleagues to get 
inflation under control and put our fiscal house in order.
    By definition, inflation causes your dollar to go less far 
than it once did. I had one of my constituents in my office 
talking about a massive infrastructure project within my 
district that because of inflation is now going to cost a 
projected $10 million more, and it is an important 
infrastructure project that we need.
    Mr. Spear, can you talk about how inflation has impacted 
your industry, whether it is CapEx, delays, foregone projects, 
labor rates, and how those increased costs have impacted our 
supply chain?
    Mr. Spear. Certainly. I think that inflation, as we look at 
the impact it has had on fuel pricing, it is our second biggest 
cost burn right under what we pay our employees. And when you 
are seeing it more than double, even triple in certain parts of 
the country, that is a major headwind in terms of operations 
and our ability to get goods to where they need to be with a 
shortage that we are experiencing in driver force.
    The cost of fuel is really impactful. So, we have seen that 
spike considerably, and diesel is still rising, riding higher 
than petrol.
    So, it is a major concern. A lot of those costs we try to 
pass on. If you are in contract fleets, you can do some of 
that. For a good number of companies and owner-operators, that 
is not the case. So, it is even more impactful on them.
    So, we would love to see the fuel prices get back to where 
they were pre-COVID.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you.
    Mr. Jefferies, same question.
    Mr. Jefferies. Yes. It has an impact across the board. So, 
whether it is the cost of goods of doing business, that 
increases the cost of goods sold, or the cost of services you 
are providing, which at the end of the day makes its way to the 
consumer, which reduces buying power, which has an overarching 
economic impact.
    I would pair--we have talked a lot about permitting, 
permitting reform, delays, and getting projects to work. That 
is only exacerbated by inflation.
    You get delayed by 1, 2 years, my colleague mentioned this 
earlier, and you are in a high-inflation environment, well, 
that jacks up the price of the overarching project 
dramatically. So, the funds, the CapEx funds you had put aside 
for that project, may not cover that, and maybe you are not 
doing that project anymore.
    So, it is not just that things cost more. It is impacting 
investment. It is impacting project delivery, project 
development as well.
    Mr. Yakym. And, Mr. Jefferies, you mentioned earlier that 
the amount of dollars that the railroad industry is putting 
into CapEx for rail improvements around the country, can you 
tell us--and maybe you have data on this, maybe you don't--but 
what is the scope of projects that have gone up in price? And 
in totality, how many projects have you not done because of 
inflation?
    Mr. Jefferies. So, I don't know if I can put a number on 
there.
    I will say this. There is a vast number of projects that we 
do every year regardless of the cost because they have to be 
done to maintain a safe railroad; a well-maintained railroad is 
a safe railroad.
    So, when it comes to that maintenance, that keeping the 
existing infrastructure where it needs to be, that is happening 
one way or another because it has to be done.
    But where I think you see the hits are on potential 
capacity expansions, et cetera, that a railroad of any size is 
going to take another look at. If suddenly it is 10, 15, 20 
percent more to do that, maybe you are not doing that in that 
year.
    But, admittedly, I can't point to--those are individual 
business decisions that railroads are going to make on their 
own.
    Mr. Yakym. And so, you are still making those investments. 
And it is probably fair to say that the increased cost is being 
passed on to the consumer. Is that a fair assessment?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, it is certainly having an impact, I 
will say that, at the end of the day.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you.
    And, Mr. Firth, same question.
    Mr. Firth. I would say that for us, after we get a project, 
it could be a couple years long, could be 6 months or whatever, 
it is the supplies. It is the wood that we have to buy that 
spikes up and down, for instance, to form the bridge decks, 
form the piers, form the columns, hammer heads, et cetera. It 
is those incidentals that we have no control over or we can't 
lock in pricing ahead of time.
    So, I would say that would be the biggest hit that we take 
usually, and we can't pass that along to owners ahead of time, 
because we don't know--we can't buy it right then and there, if 
we can even get it, and everything.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Auchincloss, you are recognized.
    Mr. Auchincloss. Thank you, Chairman.
    Last Congress, we were able to pass historic legislation to 
meet our ambitious climate goals. But until clean energy 
projects are up and running, these investments will not realize 
their full potential.
    Massachusetts is working on this implementation at every 
level. Our new Governor, Maura Healey, made tackling climate 
change a central part of her work as attorney general and is 
now working with offshore wind developers to ensure the 
Commonwealth is able to reach its 2030 emissions target.
    A failure to make this transition has implications beyond 
climate change. It also threatens jobs guaranteed by the first 
project labor agreement for an industrial-scale offshore wind 
project in the United States.
    In my district, Bristol Community College's National 
Offshore Wind Institute offers basic and advanced safety and 
technical training programs to prepare workers for jobs in 
construction, deployment, operations, and maintenance of 
offshore wind farms.
    Unfortunately, inflation and supply chain issues have 
threatened to derail the Bay State's goals and delay our 
transition to a green energy economy.
    Mr. Firth, in that vein, my first question is for you.
    You noted in your testimony the difficulty the construction 
industry is facing in purchasing materials like steel. It 
creates a significant risk to businesses.
    How can Congress create additional market certainty for 
these manufacturers? And for multiyear contracts, what steps 
should contractors be taking to incorporate market rates' 
uncertainty in the future?
    Mr. Firth. It is a great question.
    When we get at bid time our estimators are pulling their 
hairs out because, let's say, at 9 o'clock you have got to turn 
in the bid. And when I say a bid, it is low-bid pricing. We 
might be getting quotes at 8:55, and we are sitting there 
trying to figure out, OK, how low are they, are they cheap, are 
they more expensive?
    And also, then they say, by the way, you need to let us 
know by the end of the day whether or not you can lock in our 
price. We might not even know if we got the job because maybe 
the job is over budget from the owner's perspective. They have 
an engineer's estimate and everything.
    So, if all of a sudden for us we are taking huge risks on, 
OK, well, maybe we were low bidder, but we were over the 
engineer's estimate, will it be awarded? And then, by the way, 
we have got to lock into a price to where we might not even 
know if we get the project or not.
    So, something along those lines to where I think some of 
the owners are starting to look at separate contracts ahead of 
time that they know as they talk to industry about what can we 
do to help. Maybe it is procuring those permanent materials, 
such as steel girders for bridges or whatnot.
    So, I think more of that and getting more industry feedback 
would be helpful.
    Mr. Auchincloss. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear, I have a separate question for you. But first I 
do need to respond to your points in your testimony about the 
Federal Highway Administration's 2021 memo, I think it was, 
that you referred to.
    Just to be clear, first of all, over the last three 
decades, Congress has made highway program funding more and 
more flexible. And that is partly in response to the fact that 
the public is deeply concerned about deferred maintenance and 
repairs. They expect us to be a good steward of their tax 
dollars. And States are still free to make their own investment 
choices.
    But being a good steward of those dollars would suggest 
that we should fix the 4-million-mile road system that we have 
already built first.
    And I would also take some issue with your point that 
highway widening is going to be the answer to congestion. I 
think we have seen that widening roads induces demand. We need 
to manage more intelligently the roadways that we have, whether 
it is HOV lanes, whether it is congestion pricing.
    We have got to think beyond simply the physical 
infrastructure and instead the pricing mechanics that we use 
and the management mechanics that we use.
    My question for you, though, is about the reauthorization 
of the NTSB. And one issue I want to explore is truck safety 
data ownership. Cars and commercial trucks continue to become 
more advanced, and as a result they will produce more data that 
we can utilize to make our roads safer if drivers and mechanics 
and regulators and insurance companies can access it.
    Do commercial trucking companies have access to and sole 
authority over their truck data to your knowledge?
    Mr. Spear. They do. Telematics is our property.
    Mr. Auchincloss. And what are your thoughts on the 
increasing push by OEMs to own that data or to lay claim to it 
in some manner?
    Mr. Spear. I think it is probably better answered by the 
OEMs. But it belongs to them. They produce the product. They 
sell the product. They maintain the product to sell it off to 
somebody else to service it, have access to it, including the 
Government.
    That is a big debate. And we are not the only ones facing 
that question that you pose. The autos are too.
    So, telematics is a very sticky issue and it has been 
litigated heavily in States, also legislated in States. So, it 
is an issue that we are not foreign to.
    Mr. Auchincloss. I look forward to working with you on it.
    Mr. Spear. Absolutely.
    Mr. Auchincloss. I yield back, Chairman.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. LaMalfa, you are recognized.
    Mr. LaMalfa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    My apologies to the rest of the committee and others for 
dueling committees going on. So, if anything I ask is 
redundant, please forgive me on that today.
    Let me jump right into an interesting piece on a California 
driver, truckdriver, a woman, who had really sought and kind of 
met her dream. Let me just read a little excerpt of what she 
had commented on, a news piece, just a couple days ago. Jumping 
in here. Her name is Dee Sova.
    ``I often reflect on where my dream started and what could 
have been. As a Black woman, I had built a successful business 
and created a profitable path in an industry that had once 
belonged almost exclusively to men. Then the California 
legislature stepped in and took that all away from me. They 
forced me to say goodbye to the place I once called home for 
decades.
    ``I'm blessed to have successfully moved to a more 
business-friendly State''--Missouri, it turns out--``but not 
everyone has the resources to do so. Since AB5''--which has 
been talked about a lot--``has gone into effect, thousands of 
more independent truckers in California have been thrust into 
legal limbo. Lawmakers have given other industries a carveout 
from AB5, but they continue to deny truckdrivers that same 
opportunity.''
    You can ask Dee Sova, who gave up, filled her truck, and 
left California for greener pastures in Missouri.
    So, the bill, AB5, was pitched as a bill to protect workers 
from having their benefits cut and being forced instead--they 
allege they were being forced to be independent contractors. 
The super majority in Sacramento created exemptions for their 
favorite industries, not truckers.
    So, what we know is that the vast majority of trucking 
companies are small and they are mom and pop, but all are 
welcome. But it sets a terrible precedent that a State is being 
allowed to interfere with the trucking employment requirements, 
which indeed have ramifications in the whole country and across 
many industries.
    So, one of the feelings of being a trucker is to be able to 
have freedom and flexibility for contracted employment. Now 
every driver will have to charge more, things will become even 
more expensive. Every piece of cargo, every box of cereal on 
the shelf, et cetera, will have to cost more, and further delay 
an already bogged down supply chain.
    So, Mr. Chairman, I would like to enter this article into 
the record, if I may.
    Mr. Crawford. Without objection. So ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Opinion, ``I'm a successful female minority truck driver. California's 
   AB5 forced me to leave the state I love,'' by Dee Sova, Fox News, 
    January 30, 2023, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Doug LaMalfa
I'm a successful female minority truck driver. California's AB5 forced 
                      me to leave the state I love
I was living my version of the American Dream, but California lawmakers 
        had a very different plan for me
by Dee Sova

Fox News, January 30, 2023, 2 a.m. EST
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/female-minority-truck-driver-
california-ab5-forced-me-leave-state

    To most people, owning your own business is a way to become 
successful. For me, it was a mission--a lifeline to a brighter future 
for myself and my daughters.
    That journey began in California more than three decades ago, when 
I dropped my nursing studies to get a commercial driver's license. As a 
woman, the thought of working in a male-dominated field was 
intimidating at first. But those initial fears soon gave way to the 
rewarding opportunities that a career in trucking offers.
    The change was unexpected. As a single parent raising four 
daughters, I needed both flexibility and the opportunity to provide for 
them. Which is why, in 2015, I partnered with Prime Inc. to become an 
independent contractor.


Independent contractor Dee Sova moved her trucking business to Missouri 
 after California passed its AB5 law. (American Trucking Associations)

    Being an independent truck driver empowered me to run my truck as 
my own small business. I loved traveling on the job, the freedom to be 
my own boss, and the option to take my children with me on long hauls 
when I could.
    Making good money while seeing the country, I built a wonderful 
life back in California--a place I was proud to call home. I was living 
my version of the American Dream. But lawmakers in Sacramento soon had 
a very different plan for me.
    When the state legislature began debating Assembly Bill 5--a law 
effectively banning independent contractors in trucking--my dream was 
put in jeopardy. AB5 would have demoted me from small business owner to 
company employee--affecting my hours, benefits, flexibility and overall 
ability to earn on my own terms. It would effectively kill the dream I 
worked so hard to build over so many years.
    So, for the second time in my professional life, I knew it was time 
to change gears. I packed up and left California. I could not afford to 
lose my business and the livelihood it provided my family. In 2020, I 
moved to Springfield, Missouri, where I continued as an independent 
contractor with Prime Inc.
    I often reflect on where my dream started and what could have been. 
As a Black woman, I built a successful business and created a 
profitable path in an industry that had once belonged almost 
exclusively to men. Then the California legislature stepped in and took 
that all away from me. They forced me to say goodbye to the place I 
once called home for decades.
    I'm blessed to have successfully moved to a more business-friendly 
state, but not everyone has the resources to do so. Since AB5 has gone 
into effect, thousands of more independent truckers in California have 
been thrust into legal limbo. Lawmakers have given other industries a 
carveout from AB5, but they continue to deny truck drivers that same 
opportunity.
    Over my 31 years in trucking, I've driven more than 2.1 million 
accident-free miles, delivering the goods that Americans depend on 
every day. I'm proud to serve as an industry ambassador, working in my 
free time mentoring women truck drivers and supporting this vibrant, 
growing community.
    Those like us who choose to own our business should be supported as 
we pursue our dreams. It's unfortunate California lawmakers see fit to 
tell us we only belong as company employees. Despite those obstacles, I 
can still take to the road and pursue my dreams elsewhere.

Dee Sova is an owner operator truck driver for Prime Inc. in 
Springfield, Missouri.

    Mr. LaMalfa. Thank you, sir.
    Let me ask Mr. Spear from ATA this.
    Now, I probably won't have to really ask it, but have you 
seen motor carriers leaving the State of California? We kind of 
know the answer to that question. Are more planning to do so?
    Mr. Spear. Yes, I do.
    Mr. LaMalfa. What kind of numbers, I guess, are we losing? 
I think I saw where 70,000 as of January 1 would be completely 
ineligible, if I am thinking correctly.
    Mr. Spear. It is a significant number. And Ms. Sova's story 
is one of many. And I know her well. I am very, very, very 
proud to have her as an ATA America's Road Team captain. She is 
an outstanding driver. And when she speaks, I think people do 
listen.
    It is what I said earlier. I think we need to talk more to 
the independent contractors. Did somebody force you to do this, 
some heavy-handed employer push you into this category so they 
didn't have to pay you as much or give you benefits? You will 
find that the answer you get is just the opposite of what you 
think.
    Listen to what she has to say. She chose this for a reason. 
She wants to grow her own business. She wants to employ other 
drivers. Most of our big members started with one truck as ICs.
    It has been around for 90 years. I am not saying any 
category is perfect. It is not. Let's don't make this into a 
national crisis. This is a sound, contributing workforce to the 
trucking industry, and it is under assault in California. So, 
yes, we are a bit bullish about that.
    And by the way, a lot of employers have to have contractual 
provisions in their IC contracts that adhere to health, safety, 
environment, and taxation standards. That is part of the deal. 
And when they don't, there are consequences for that.
    Mr. LaMalfa. Yes. Yes. There are consequences.
    Is ATA, other members, other contractors, receiving some 
type of guidance that is helpful from either the State or the 
Federal Government on how to deal with these regulations? Is it 
clear how they should be complying or is it murky?
    Mr. Spear. Get a lawyer.
    Mr. LaMalfa. Get a lawyer. Great. I would just like to be a 
trucker, out on the open road and haul things, and unload, and 
get in my sleeper when I need to. Getting a lawyer isn't really 
part of that.
    Mr. Spear. Nope. It is not a good answer. I apologize. It 
is the truth.
    Mr. LaMalfa. No. You gave a real answer.
    Let me jump over to Mr. Guenther from Port of Houston here. 
I could go into it bigger. But some of our supply chain issues 
seem to be subsiding somewhat. I don't think they are over by 
any means.
    What should we be doing for our ports and import-export 
system to improve on efficiency? And I come from the ag sector, 
who we have just been brutalized in California getting the ag 
products back on the boats.
    Mr. Crawford. Quick answer, Mr. Guenther.
    Mr. LaMalfa. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guenther. Yes. Thank you. Great question.
    Yes, it is tapering off in the U.S. I can speak for 
Houston. We are still at a pretty high level, but regardless.
    To your point, a lot of import cargo dwelling on the 
terminals impacted the export cargo on the terminals. I think a 
short answer that we have talked about is the ability to have 
more visibility and information about the cargo coming and 
going and also having more access to infrastructure, whether it 
is inland depots, moving cargo off the terminal, or storing 
more excessively.
    Mr. LaMalfa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Everybody buy more walnuts. That will help a lot. Thank 
you.
    Mr. Crawford. Just to remind Members that we are up against 
a floor vote schedule. So, move as expeditiously as we can.
    Ms. Hoyle, you are recognized.
    Ms. Hoyle of Oregon. Thank you. And I want to thank all the 
witnesses for coming here to testify.
    The weakness in our supply chain became very clear at the 
west coast ports during the recent crisis, and one vital way to 
minimize future supply chain backups in our ports is to expand 
capacity.
    The workers at the Ports of Seattle and Long Beach move 
almost 20 million TEUs per year. But as we have seen, the 
corporate focus of achieving low prices and profit by 
offshoring U.S. manufacturing jobs, combined with the longtime 
lack in Federal investment in our transportation 
infrastructure, has left the United States vulnerable. The 
pandemic created a perfect storm, resulting in critical 
shortages of necessary goods and a massive supply chain 
congestion on the west coast ports.
    So, as we move to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., we 
are going to need to make sure our port infrastructure can keep 
up so U.S. firms can get their products to international 
markets.
    We have an opportunity, and Mr. Firth knows all about it, 
in building a new deepwater container terminal port at the 
International Port of Coos Bay, which is in my district in 
southwest Oregon and is a public-private partnership with 
NorthPoint, a company based in the district of Chairman Graves.
    Unfortunately, this project was recently denied a DOT Mega 
grant in the first round of grant funds, even though it is 
exactly the type of new investment that we need to address our 
supply chain issues and the inflation that is exacerbated by 
it. So, we will be applying in the next round, and I will work 
with anyone to help make that happen.
    Before I ask questions of the panel, I want to provide more 
background about the project. It would create the only west 
coast ship-to-rail container port where maritime shipping 
crates can be loaded directly onto railcars and shipped 
directly to the rest of the country.
    Bringing this kind of infrastructure online could increase 
west coast port capacity by up to 10 to 12 percent. No place 
along the west coast has that ability.
    The port, which is the largest deepwater port between Puget 
Sound and San Francisco, has hundreds of acres of undeveloped 
industrial land and quick access to the open ocean.
    And the west coast lacks any sort of resiliency. If we lose 
one port due to a man-made or natural disaster, that problem 
will be significantly worse.
    Seventy percent of the containers that move through ports 
on the west coast of Canada are destined for the United States. 
Meanwhile, the Canadian Federal Government is investing in 
their ports. I can't understand why we would choose not to 
invest in our own ports and forfeit all that ship traffic and 
all the American jobs that go with it.
    So, with that, first, Mr. Regan, and if there is time, Mr. 
Firth.
    As Oregon's labor commissioner, I saw too often that people 
in the trades and transportation jobs were recruited by what we 
would call the FBI model of recruitment: father, brother, in-
law. If your father, brother, or in-law were in the trades, 
then you get into the trades.
    We worked very hard with business, with labor, to change 
how we did outreach and retention because diversity and 
recruitment means nothing if you can't create an environment 
for that diverse workforce to feel safe and supported to stay 
in those jobs. We addressed some of those issues earlier.
    Mr. Regan, can you expand on how investing in the 
transportation workforce, workforce development, and 
recruitment to the many high-quality Registered Apprenticeship 
Programs that will arise through the record investment of the 
IIJA can help address some of these supply chain problems?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. And thank you so much for that question.
    The workforce is what is driving these supply chains. They 
are the backbone, they are the ones performing the work, 
whether they be the longshoremen in the ports, whether they be 
operating the trains, whether they be driving the trucks. They 
are the core of this.
    And I think having more money available--and critically 
having money available for workforce training in the very 
beginning of these grant programs--means that we are going to 
be able to build the workforce of the future that can actually 
deliver as demand is going to continue to increase.
    We are not going to see a decrease in cargo anytime soon. 
So, we want to be able to make sure that we have the workforce 
ready to meet those needs.
    And we also have had an increased focus on diversifying the 
workforce in transportation, making sure that we recruit more 
women, more people of color, to make sure that we have a 
workforce that is representative of the country and that 
opportunities are available for everyone in this country to 
have a good-paying, middle-class job.
    Ms. Hoyle of Oregon. Thank you.
    Very briefly.
    Mr. Firth. I think that if we could increase the money into 
the career and technical education programs, I think that would 
be fabulous. I personally think that we try to tell younger 
kids that you have to go to college. You can really make a 
great career in any of our trades. It is just great.
    Ms. Hoyle of Oregon. Thank you.
    Mr. Crawford. The gentlelady's time has expired.
    Mr. D'Esposito, you are recognized.
    Mr. D'Esposito. Well, thank you.
    And to the panel, thank you for your time today.
    As a native Long Islander, I firsthand know the value the 
supply chain industry brings to our economy. My district 
heavily relies on the trucking for freight needs in its 
vicinity to both JFK Airport and the ports in New Jersey.
    Companies like Canaan Xpress from Valley Stream and K-1 
Logistics, whose owners live in Long Beach and East Rockaway, 
have suffered economic burdens as a result of the freight 
container backlog and strained resources.
    From prolonged stalling at port to congestion, incurring 
additional fees, and at times not able to receive their cargo, 
Long Island truckers, our small businesses and consumers, are 
having to foot the ramifications of supply chain inadequacies.
    Mr. Spear, as our local ports and truckers work overtime to 
meet the market's demands, do you feel that the current 
administration has made it a priority to implement ocean 
shipping reforms that ensure supply chain efficiency?
    Mr. Spear. I have seen good dialogue led by the White House 
National Economic Council on supply chain, particularly ports. 
I think passage by this body of the Ocean Shipping Reform Act 
is a significant step forward. I think there needs to be some 
continued discussions with this administration about what more 
we can do to ensure that our supply chain is streamlined and 
resilient to these pressures.
    I think box rules--we are currently litigating chassis 
choice, availability of chassis. We are being told by ocean 
shippers that these are the chassis you have to use. That 
creates a backlog. It creates contractions within our ability 
to move those boxes faster. We need chassis choice. And that is 
something, whether this body chooses to legislate, we are 
litigating, as I said. But it is a racket. It is just pure and 
simple. It is more of the same.
    And I think looking for ways that we can get more 
efficiencies within the port, within drayage, to ensure that we 
can stack higher, move off site, push to rail, push to chassis 
faster, these are all things that are going to make 
improvements going forward, but we need to continue the 
dialogue.
    Mr. D'Esposito. Thank you.
    And, again, I have two manufacturers on Long Island that 
closed in the last 6 months citing the inability to keep up 
with their inflated supply chain costs.
    Do you believe that the current administration's lack of 
prioritization for shipping reform and cutting through the 
redtape is preventing small businesses like these on Long 
Island and in Nassau County from operating and thus forcing 
some to close?
    Mr. Spear. I think a lot of communities around the country 
are entirely dependent on trucks. It was just cited. Ian 
mentioned earlier first mile on, last mile off. You are going 
to have to involve a truck and a driver to get it where it 
needs to be.
    So, small businesses generally serve those communities. 
They are there at night when they go home to their families. 
So, making certain that they remain capable in delivering those 
goods is instrumental. It is not just large cities. It is the 
communities around the country that deserve attention to that.
    So, yes, we are very mindful of it. It is something that we 
are going to continue to represent at the table when we are 
talking about these efficiencies. It is not lost on us.
    Mr. D'Esposito. Thank you.
    Thank you all for your time.
    Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, sir.
    I now recognize Mrs. Foushee for 5 minutes.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And thank all of you for being here today.
    My district in North Carolina is home to world-class 
research universities and community colleges, vibrant small 
businesses, community-oriented nonprofits, and Research 
Triangle Park, a premier global innovation center and the 
Nation's largest research park.
    My district also is one of the fastest growing areas in the 
entire country, and we are, of course, feeling the effects of 
growing pains. We are struggling to keep up with the demands 
that come with the rapid growth of an area, and this is, 
unfortunately, reflected in our transportation infrastructure.
    I know how critical it is for our communities to have 
robust and resilient infrastructure and accessible and reliable 
transportation systems. I look forward to tackling some of 
these problems and issues as a member of this committee.
    As we work to improve and modernize our transportation 
systems, we must also talk about the implementation of clean 
transportation and how this affects our current workforce.
    So, my first question today is for Mr. Jefferies.
    Mr. Jefferies, one of the benefits--well, you have 
indicated that one of the benefits of a functioning freight 
rail network is the ability of the freight railroads to move a 
ton of freight nearly 500 miles on just 1 gallon of fuel. And I 
understand that some of the Class I railroads are exploring 
battery-electric locomotives to further reduce their emissions.
    So, if you could please tell me how railroads are preparing 
their workers to ensure that their skills grow with these 
changes.
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, that is a great question and a broad 
question, because the challenge of further reducing emissions 
is an immense one.
    But to your point, as we stand here today, freight rail is 
the most environmentally friendly way of moving goods across 
land. But we have got a lot more work to do.
    We are investing in battery electric. We are investing in 
hydrogen. We are investing in additional biofuels. And all of 
the Class I's have signed up and agreed to science-based 
targets initiatives when it comes to targeted emissions 
reductions in the next 10 years, in line with the Paris treaty.
    And that is going to take an all-hands-on-deck approach, an 
all-options approach. So, that is investment in our yards, that 
is investment to reduce emissions with our propulsion, anti-
idling, reducing friction between wheel and track.
    And that is why we are exploring every opportunity. That is 
why we have test locomotives, test battery-electric locomotives 
out in revenue service. That is why we are deploying battery 
switcher locomotives in yards. It is all about reducing that 
top-line emissions level. And, quite frankly, our customers 
expect that from us.
    We can become a tool to help them reduce their overarching 
tooth-to-tail emissions because they are focused on their 
supply chain. So, the better value proposition we have on that 
front, the more attractive we are to a customer.
    And I will just add, in your area of North Carolina, one, 
we have a wholly owned subsidiary IT company located in Cary, I 
know nearby, not directly right there. But there is also an 
immense amount of rail investment going on in North Carolina, 
both on the passenger front and the freight front.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you for that.
    Mr. Regan, how can we ensure that we are still prioritizing 
workers as we incorporate these new technologies into 
transportation like zero-emission technology?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you.
    I think that is a really important question in all areas of 
technology as we start to see it be deployed in transportation.
    We view, in the labor community, we are not opposed to 
technology. We embrace it. We have generations of embracing 
technological change throughout transportation.
    What we ask for, though, is that we want to make sure that 
as we are advancing our technological capabilities, we are also 
advancing our workforce, making sure that there are training 
opportunities so that the existing workforce has the ability to 
advance their careers as the technology changes.
    Likewise, we want to make sure that any introduction of new 
technology is done so in a way that improves safety across the 
board. It should never be used as an opportunity simply to 
remove a worker. It should be done in concert with the experts 
who are doing the jobs so that they can actually enhance safety 
and combine that with the human expertise that has been doing 
it for a very long time.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    Mr. Johnson, you are recognized.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And, obviously, I am pleased that the committee is making 
the supply chain such a high priority this year. I think it 
builds on the success that Mr. Garamendi, my friend from 
California, and I had last year with the Ocean Shipping Reform 
Act. It is already having an impact on helping to heal some of 
the supply chain issues.
    But obviously nobody is alleging the supply chain is as 
healthy as we want it to be yet. That is why I am working with 
Mr. Costa on the SHIP IT Act, which attempts to address a 
number of different issues or deficiencies within the trucking 
arena.
    And without objection, Mr. Chairman, I would ask for 
statements in support for the SHIP IT Act to be entered into 
the record from the Consumer Brands Association and from the 
Shippers Coalition.
    Mr. Crawford. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
  from Thomas Madrecki, Vice President, Supply Chain, Consumer Brands 
      Association, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Dusty Johnson
                                                  January 31, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, 2167 Rayburn House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, 2163 Rayburn House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    Thank you for convening today's hearing on supply chain and 
transportation challenges, recognizing the considerable impact of 
recent supply chain problems on manufacturers, shippers, and consumers 
across America.
    But recognizing past impacts is, of course, not enough. Pandemic 
disruption, port congestion and an averted freight rail strike may no 
longer be front page news, but supply chain concerns seem likely to 
persist through 2023 and beyond, absent proactive action and policy 
intervention to strengthen competitiveness and resilience. Long lead 
times for manufacturing components, soaring production costs, out-of-
stock products and inflation are leading indicators that we can and 
should be doing more to protect American consumers, including through 
efforts to improve supply chain fluidity.
    Acting now to improve supply chain fluidity can help reduce the 
chances of high-profile problems later on and provide economic and 
quality of life benefits today.
    Supply chains are the backbone of economic growth, national 
security and consumers' quality of life. But even before the COVID-19 
pandemic, America's food, beverage, household and personal care 
manufacturers expressed growing concern over the state of U.S. supply 
chains.
    And the Members of the Consumer Brands Association have direct 
knowledge. Our membership includes many Fortune 500 companies and other 
important companies well known to the public. Collectively the annual 
gross revenue is in the hundreds of billions of dollars as part of the 
work product of millions of employees and contractors. We have to make 
and move and receive the products. We are taking an increasingly 
intense interest in improving transportation, logistics and supply 
chain performance. We work with carriers but they need our products to 
carry and we increasingly have our own views on how to improve movement 
of the products that make up the economy.
    In recent years we have seen cracks in the system--issues as far-
ranging as the truck driver shortage, truck parking, freight capacity, 
rail performance, maritime shipping challenges, port congestion, 
inadequate data sharing and the untapped opportunity of emerging 
technologies--imperil business operations, slow manufacturing lines, 
foster inefficiencies and add to consumer costs.
    These challenges and others like them offer a roadmap for steps the 
Congress may take to strengthen supply chains. For all of the talk 
about supply chains and the importance of them, there remain many 
avenues for members of Congress to enhance resiliency through strategic 
policymaking.
    One of the most encouraging signs of potential progress on supply 
chain issues is the introduction of legislation like the SHIP IT Act, 
offered by Reps. Dusty Johnson (R-SD) and Jim Costa (D-CA). The SHIP IT 
Act serves as a template for proactive, practical legislation 
addressing specific supply chain challenges, like the lack of truck 
parking on highways across America, much-needed incentives for truck 
driver recruitment and training, and the assurance of regulatory 
flexibility during emergencies to ensure safety and business 
continuity. The SHIP IT Act, and any complementary proposals developed 
this year by Committee members, offer opportunities to enhance 
efficiency, safety, sustainability and performance--all to the benefit 
of U.S. manufacturers, consumers and transportation providers.
    From agriculture, to manufacturing, to the technology start-ups of 
tomorrow, all American industries and consumers rely on the strength of 
our national supply chain. It is imperative that we strengthen, protect 
and modernize this delivery system, which can be harmed not just by 
geopolitical events like the pandemic and war in Ukraine, but also by 
failure to invest in and improve how freight flows across America now, 
to reduce the chances of the problems we have seen arising again.
    Government policy should help--not hinder--private sector efforts 
to deliver for consumers, working in parallel to ensure the 
availability, affordability, and accessibility of everyday essential 
products.
    Thank you for your interest in strengthening American supply 
chains, and for convening today's hearing. This is a first step that 
must be followed by common sense actions to improve policies and 
approaches so that we can all deliver for America for decades to come.
        Sincerely,
                                           Thomas Madrecki,
         Vice President, Supply Chain, Consumer Brands Association.

                                 
    Statement of the Shippers Coalition, Submitted for the Record by
                           Hon. Dusty Johnson
    While many of us have known this for a while, the last couple of 
years brought to the forefront of everyday American's mind how fragile 
our supply chain is. Backups at the ports, a truck driver shortage, 
several potential railroad strikes, and others events have proven that 
steps need to be taken to strengthen our supply chain to mitigate any 
future disruptions. A strong supply chain ensures that shippers are 
able to get critical goods and products to consumers in a timely and 
cost-efficient manner.
    The trucking industry has experienced a significant driver 
shortage, which is only expected to worsen. In order to solve this 
problem, the industry will need to recruit nearly one million new 
drivers in the next decade to replace the retiring workforce. It is 
critical to recruit new drivers to the industry, but it can't end 
there. Changes must be made to retain drivers by improving their 
quality of life while on the job. This can be done by implementing the 
following: allowing drivers under 21 to cross states lines, offering 
incentives for veteran, women, and minority drivers, providing tax 
incentives to current and newly eligible truck drivers, reducing 
barriers for entry to truck driving school, improving safety by 
increasing the availability of truck parking, and streamlining the CDL 
process.
    The Shippers Coalition implores Congress to work in a bipartisan 
fashion to ensure that it is easier to recruit and retain qualified 
drivers. The industry needs to alleviate the nationwide truck driver 
shortage, ensure a high quality of life for drivers while on the job, 
and take pressure off the system.
    One way to address supply chain issues is to advance the Safer 
Highways and Increased Performance for Interstate Trucking Act (SHIP IT 
Act), introduced by Congressman Dusty Johnson (R-SD) and Congressman 
Jim Costa (D-CA). This bill provides common-sense solutions by taking a 
holistic view of pressure points in the supply chain by increasing 
shipping capacity, lessening burdens on current and future truck 
drivers, providing incentives to recruit and retain drivers, and 
allowing additional flexibilities during times of emergency. These 
solutions will help ensure consumers have access to critical goods and 
bring much-needed reform to a system that has been long neglected. 
Commendably, this legislation would take action immediately, working 
towards solutions to positively help the economy and safety, and 
prevent high-profile supply chain concerns, rather than waiting to act 
until another supply chain crisis. The Shippers Coalition supports this 
bill and encourages the committee to move this forward.
    In our global economy, efficient ocean transportation is essential 
to a well-functioning supply chain. We are confident that the Ocean 
Shipping Reform Act will help ease or prevent shipping backlogs and 
help prevent future spikes in international ocean shipping costs like 
we have seen in the past. Importantly, the bill provides the Federal 
Maritime Commission (FMC) with new tools to help level the playing 
field for American exporters and limit anticompetitive behavior. While 
the passage of this bill was monumental, it was only the first step in 
alleviating the issues seen at ports across the United States. The 
Shippers Coalition is closely following the implementation of these 
provisions to ensure the voice of the shipper is heard. These 
provisions are critical essential in lowering shipping costs and 
strengthening all aspects of the supply chain.
    The Shippers Coalition is the leading safety voice in building a 
more modern, safe, and environmentally friendly trucking system. The 
Coalition is a joint effort of more than 80 of the nation's most 
prominent manufacturers, agribusinesses, and trade associations, 
including Anheuser-Busch, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, the American Chemistry 
Council, the Consumer Brands Association, Niagara Bottling, Tyson 
Foods, Procter & Gamble, and the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, 
among others. The Shippers Coalition seeks to improve supply chains and 
freight transportation, all while advancing safety and reducing 
emissions, vehicle miles traveled, fuel consumption, and congestion. 
The Coalition is sharing the story of shippers across the country and 
proposing solutions that increase fluidity in the supply chain.

    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Very good. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear, I was grateful to see in your testimony and hear 
in your testimony a reference to the Ocean Shipping Reform Act, 
holding that up as a success of the last Congress.
    I think today, gentlemen, you have got a sense of the 
hunger and the appetite that this committee has to continue to 
build on those successes.
    So, the question to you, Mr. Spear, what top three pressing 
issues or ideas do we need to pursue in this committee to 
continue to build on OSRA's success?
    Mr. Spear. I think transparency is really good, the 
accurate invoices, resolving disputes. These are all good 
things that will come from this law that we strongly supported. 
So, well done.
    I think looking ahead, as I just spoke earlier about the 
box rules, We are litigating chassis choice, and being able to 
pick, we talk about choice a lot, but being able to pick which 
chassis you can use.
    These are ocean shippers that are applying a lot of 
leverage on us, acting like cartels; this is exactly what OSRA 
was meant to defuse.
    So, going forward, I think ensuring that we have choice. We 
can move those boxes much faster. This is something we are 
litigating.
    But that is an area certainly to provide oversight at a 
minimum, because it really is a racket.
    We are looking also at instances where ports, particularly 
in California, are electrifying much more rapidly than other 
parts of the country. And I just have to say that about 60 
percent of those that are operating in drayage are less than 20 
trucks.
    So, the affordability of that equipment in that amount of 
time, assuming it is available, assuming it can be charged--
that is a good environment certainly to incubate this sort of 
thing--but the ratio, the cost ratio between an electric truck 
and a diesel power truck is like 5 to 1. They are not going to 
be able to afford this.
    So, that is literally nearly 30 percent of the boxes being 
moved. If those less than 20 go, you are going to have a real 
issue on your hands.
    So, I think we need to look, again, about the timelines. 
Let's incubate alternative energy into the workplace, but let's 
do it in a responsible way that doesn't put people out of 
business, doesn't cause more bottlenecks within the supply 
chain.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. And certainly the 
conversations continue, and Mr. Garamendi and I are working on 
an OSRA 2.0 to try to address some of the outstanding issues.
    Mr. Guenther, for you, I want to pick your brain a little 
bit about LOGINK. You probably know more about it than I do, 
but I believe this is a Chinese-developed logistics software 
system, a platform that they are attempting to foist upon ports 
and other stakeholders.
    Now, they are giving it away free. It collects a tremendous 
amount of data, which can then be centralized inside China to 
provide, no doubt, competitive advantage.
    I have grave concerns about the LOGINK system. I wonder 
whether or not it should be used by anybody in America. Are my 
concerns misplaced?
    Mr. Guenther. Well, if you could--I am not aware of that. 
What was the name of that?
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. LOGINK. So, it is capital L-O-
G-I-N-K.
    Mr. Guenther. OK.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. And it is a data management 
logistical tracking software that tells about what cargo is 
there, where it is headed, where it is coming from, just a 
tremendous amount of information.
    Mr. Guenther. I am not aware of that software, but 
obviously it is a concern, cybersecurity. The fluidity and 
efficiency of container terminals in the U.S. rely on robust 
and very smart operating systems. So, we have to make sure that 
those are protected from a cybersecurity standpoint or 
whatever.
    So, I am not aware of that, unfortunately. However, we do 
know that we continue to--most of the equipment--a lot of the 
equipment that we do use at our ports, ship-to-shore cranes and 
those type things, are made in the Republic of China.
    So, we are aware of any system, no matter where it is from, 
to make sure that it is not infiltrated and data breached or 
whatever, because we all know that we are attacked each and 
every day at every port in the Nation. So, we have got to make 
sure that we are diligent and vigilant about that.
    Mr. Crawford. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My 
has time expired.
    Mr. Crawford. Yes, sir. Thank you.
    Mr. Westerman, you are recognized.
    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Chairman.
    And thank you to the witnesses for being here today. We 
have a lot going on in other committees, so, I missed a lot of 
your testimony. But I do appreciate you coming here and 
visiting with the committee.
    I have got some grave concerns about our Federal permitting 
process. I remember in the last Congress we had the largest 
infrastructure bill in the history of the world that never even 
came through this committee. But we did do some--we worked on 
some other bills that, unfortunately, never got any kind of 
traction in the last Congress.
    And I remember talking with my Democratic colleagues about 
they are focusing on the wrong issues. They are trying to put a 
lot of money out there, but they are not going to be able to do 
their projects any more than anybody else will be able to do 
them because of permitting issues.
    And if we take a quick look at DOT's Federal Environmental 
Review and Authorization Inventory, that identifies the most 
commonly used redtape laws and regulations, it outlines a 
massive list of 64 separate permits and reviews, and that is 
just the list of the most common hurdles.
    With the constant need to improve our infrastructure--and 
we will just go down the table there--can you speak to me about 
what issues you and your colleagues are facing that are 
delaying your ability to improve that infrastructure, and what 
are the most egregious permitting roadblocks?
    Mr. Spear, we will start with you.
    Mr. Spear. Thank you, Congressman.
    I think we work very closely with our State associations, 
with State DOTs, to really identify the projects that need to 
be shovel ready, and really moving them forward through the 
environmental impact process to ensure that they are teed up 
and have access to the funding, shared funding, that could 
hopefully come through the IIJA. And we focus on the top 
projects. We would deem those as being the ones that have the 
most congestion in the country.
    There are a number of ways that you can deal with 
congestion. But we need to prioritize. Those should be projects 
that we are looking at well ahead. Because we report on them 
every year. We know what they are. So, it shouldn't come as any 
shock that these things get through the process much quicker, 
get more attention, and speed up that permit process that these 
projects are underway and done.
    Mr. Jefferies. Yes. I think we see it across the board, 
whether it is investing in new yards, yard expansion, whether 
it is adding second lines of rail, whether it is bridge 
replacement.
    And there are commonsense solutions. We saw some progress 
over the past few years with One Federal Decision, but that is 
limited to certain agencies.
    Really, it is just all about predictability in the process. 
Put some timelines on it, identify what the criteria are that 
are going to be evaluated, and take this just open-ended 
guessing game out of it, and folks can work around it.
    Predictability and certainty are all the community wants so 
it can make its investments and decisions with some level of 
confidence of when they are going to be able to put dollars to 
work.
    Mr. Westerman. As an engineer who did a lot of projects 
before I came to Congress, I can certainly agree about 
predictability and removing uncertainly. Engineers like those 
sorts of things, for good reason.
    Mr. Firth?
    Mr. Firth. Yes. Thank you for the question.
    Going back, I think it is having that flexibility and 
expediency in the review process. Not all contractors look at a 
job at the same line of construction, you might say. We all 
have different means and methods on how we attack something.
    And so, when you are kind of pigeonholed into a permit, and 
sometimes the owners need to, I think, engage industry a little 
bit more on how to get something permitted, having that 
communication open, so then that way the projects can get 
through the first time and not hit a hurdle or a roadblock 
later down the road.
    Mr. Guenther. And just to add to that, the permitting 
process is certainly--it was asked earlier about any delays. 
And on the waterside, talk about the opportunities, some of the 
issues that the Corps has and the time it takes to review and 
approve just a standard project.
    We just need to make sure that there is not a lack of 
funding for regulatory staff and making sure that there are no 
delays going through the environmental process, and maybe look 
at some type of time limits that we need to have on these so we 
can have some certainty for the projects.
    I know I hear from our dredging industry that it is 
dependent upon these and there is a finite amount of dredges. 
There needs to be some consistency and reliability as well.
    Mr. Westerman. Mr. Regan, I apologize. I am out of time.
    I ask to submit this letter from the National Mining 
Association.
    Mr. Crawford. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Statement of the National Mining Association, Submitted for the Record 
                        by Hon. Bruce Westerman
    The National Mining Association (NMA) appreciates the opportunity 
to provide input to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
regarding the state of transportation supply chains and infrastructure, 
specifically regarding rail transportation. The NMA's members conduct 
mining operations throughout the United States and rely on Class I rail 
carriers to transport mined products, including coal.
    The NMA is the voice of the American mining industry in Washington, 
D.C. Membership includes more than 275 corporations involved in all 
aspects of mining including mineral and coal producers, mineral 
processors, equipment manufacturers, state mining associations, bulk 
transporters, engineering firms, consultants, financial institutions 
and other companies that supply goods and services to the mining 
industry.
                               Background
    Coal is a reliable and abundant energy resource--making up nearly 
90 percent of U.S. fossil energy reserves on a Btu basis. The demand 
for coal, especially coal exports, is on the rise. Russia's invasion of 
Ukraine has severely shaken global coal markets and triggered a spike 
in U.S. thermal coal exports to help alleviate Europe's tight energy 
supply and low natural gas reserves. The U.S. Energy Information 
Administration (EIA) predicts U.S. exports to increase up to 92.6 
million short tons in 2024.\1\
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Jan. 10, 2023; https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/coal.php
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    Roads, railways, appliances, buildings, stadiums, bridges, airports 
and other structures are all supported by steel--a material dependent 
on metallurgical coal. Seventy percent of the world's steel requires 
coal for its production. The U.S. is one of the largest metallurgical 
coal exporters in the world and demand is expected to increase 20 
percent by 2030 to keep up with the pace of aging infrastructure.
    American coal producers are almost entirely reliant on U.S. 
railroads to get products to market. For example, coal produced in the 
Powder River Basin can be transported over 1,000 miles, and as far away 
as Georgia, Oregon and Texas. These operations run 24 hours a day, 7 
days a week and 365 days a year to meet the needs of consumers. 
According to the EIA, trains transport nearly 70 percent of coal 
deliveries in the United States for at least part of the way from mines 
to consumers.\2\ Additionally, coal accounts for more rail tonnage for 
railroads than any other commodity.
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    \2\ U.S. Energy Information Administration, Mining and 
Transportation of Coal, accessed Jan. 2023; https://www.eia.gov/
energyexplained/coal/mining-and-transportation.php
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Impacts to Coal Shippers and Energy Utilities from Rail Transportation 
                  Supply Chain and Reliability Issues
    Mining companies continue to encounter difficulties getting coal to 
the consumer. While mines are producing, the same cannot be said for 
rail, and our members desperately need relief.
    Currently, there is very little recourse for poor rail service, and 
in some cases, shippers are sometimes held captive with no viable 
alternative shipping methods due to what is effectively a monopoly over 
rail transport in some regions of the U.S. Several reliability issues 
with the rail transportation sector were raised in an oversight letter 
to the Surface Transportation Board (STB). U.S. Senators Kevin Cramer 
(R-N.D.) and Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) led a group of 19 bipartisan 
colleagues in a letter urging the STB to ensure reliable, consistent 
rail service for American industries and shippers.\3\ Several commodity 
specific issues were highlighted, including several specific to mining 
and energy utilities:
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    \3\ Senator Kevin Cramer, Letter Presses Surface Transportation 
Board on Rail Disruptions, May 24, 2022; https://www.cramer.senate.gov/
news/press-releases/sens-cramer-baldwin-colleagues-press-surface-
transportation-board-on-rail-disruptions-urge-reliable-service-for-
american-industries-shippers

        Energy producers have needed to curtail production due to 
        consistently delayed arrival of railcars, citing delays of 
        roughly two weeks.
        For example, Wyoming experienced an increase in coal production 
        in 2022, but due to a lack of rail service to deliver coal to 
        power utilities, coal producers were unable to produce an 
        estimated 50 million additional tons of coal. This loss of 
        production could have brought an estimated $100 million in 
        additional revenue to the state in the from severance taxes.\4\
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    \4\ Cowboy State Daily, Lack Of Trains Cost Wyoming $100 Million In 
Coal Revenue In 2022, Jan. 22, 2023; https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/
01/22/rail-service-cost-wyoming-100-million-in-coal-revenue-in-2022/

        Energy producers and manufacturers are facing lack of service.
        In 2022, the Navajo Transitional Energy Company (NTEC) saw 
        train performance at its Montana Spring Creek Mine fall well 
        short of required and historic levels. The rail carrier claimed 
        that the lack of service was part of the widely reported 
        service challenges all Class I rail carriers were experiencing. 
        Despite these broader challenges, rail carrier service in the 
        adjacent areas improved over prior years. Simultaneously, the 
        rail carrier significantly reduced the percentage of trains 
        available to NTEC and significantly increased the percentage of 
        train service to NTEC's competitors on this route. These supply 
        challenges and reliability issues caused NTEC to lose over $150 
        million in revenue and incur $15 million in demurrage penalties 
        for 2022.\5\
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    \5\ NTEC, Navajo Transitional Energy Company Files Lawsuit Against 
BNSF For Breach Of Contract, Dec. 20, 2022; https://navenergy.com/
navajo-transitional-energy-company-files-lawsuit-against-bnsf-for-
breach-of-contract/

        Missing switching of railcars and reduced service days can 
        force manufacturers to use additional railcars to maintain the 
        same level of business, leading to increased cost for the 
        shipper and further strain on the rail network overall.\6\
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    \6\ Senator Kevin Cramer, Letter Presses Surface Transportation 
Board on Rail Disruptions, May 24, 2022; https://www.cramer.senate.gov/
news/press-releases/sens-cramer-baldwin-colleagues-press-surface-
transportation-board-on-rail-disruptions-urge-reliable-service-for-
american-industries-shippers
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        With coal consumption rebounding, energy utilities have 
        increased drawdowns of their coal stockpiles. In 2021, coal 
        inventories hit their lowest levels since the 1970s. Because of 
        these historically low inventories, some railroads like Union 
        Pacific anticipate continued demand for coal shipped by rail in 
        2023.\7\ The EIA finds that the cost of rail transport as a 
        share of the total delivered cost of coal to electric utilities 
        has increased from 36.6 percent in 2009 to 48.4 percent in 
        2020.\8\ During the same period, coal transport costs as a 
        percentage of total delivered cost by both truck and barge have 
        remained relatively stable.
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    \7\ Argus Coal Daily, Issue 23-15, P. 2, Jan. 24, 2023;
    \8\ U.S. Energy Information Administration, Coal Transportation 
Rates to the Electric Power Sector; https://www.eia.gov/coal/
transportationrates/pdf/Table%201_Real.pdf

    Feedback from NMA members further illustrates the above findings 
included in the bipartisan congressional letter.
                               Conclusion
    Following an April 2022 STB hearing on ``Urgent Issues in Freight 
Rail Service,'' the STB ordered certain Class I railroads to submit 
service recovery plans and provide additional data to support 
improvement. The NMA appreciates this initial step in holding Class I 
carriers accountable. However, rail service has not consistently 
improved, as evidenced by the STB's own data provided by the railroads, 
and NMA members' candid feedback on service issues. It is critical for 
Congress and the STB to hold Class I railroads accountable and to 
provide relief.
    The NMA urges Congress to use its authority to take additional 
action to confront these ongoing service problems that cripple the U.S. 
supply chains. We must be able to move responsibly sourced domestic 
coal to the utilities that power communities and heat and cool our 
homes. We must be able to transport metallurgical coal to the 
industries that repair roads, bridges and buildings to keep our 
infrastructure safe. We need to move coal, and that starts with 
efficient rail.
    The NMA appreciates the committee's attention to this subject and 
we look forward to engaging and supporting the committee in its effort 
to address these longstanding issues.

    Mr. Crawford. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Kean, you are recognized.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, I would like to thank the chairman for holding this 
important hearing today on the state of our Nation's 
transportation infrastructure and supply chain challenges.
    I also want to thank all of our witnesses for being here 
today.
    The Seventh Congressional District in New Jersey is home to 
some of the most significant transportation challenges and 
opportunities in the country. It actually stretches all the way 
across the State, from Kill Van Kull all the way to the 
Delaware River. We face congestion on our roadways and our 
highways, strained commuter rail and transit systems, and local 
roads and bridges that are in desperate need of repair.
    My constituents, like others around the country, were 
impacted by the supply chain crises that every family in the 
country experienced. And so, each of the urban, suburban, and 
rural sections and infrastructures all need to be considered, 
and interoperability, as we are addressing our Nation's 
priority transportation goals so we can make sure we have both 
safety and economic competitiveness.
    Mr. Jefferies, as you stated in your testimony--I am going 
to use this as a model for every one of the witnesses here 
today--you said that you know rail is a vital part in the New 
Jersey economy. And as you said in your written testimony, 
``The next great leap forward in safety directly relies on the 
ability of railroads to innovate and deploy new technology.''
    This is a question for every single one of the panelists. 
How can Congress support the railroads and the other 
individuals testifying here today to achieve their greatest 
potential in deploying technology that both improves safety and 
efficiency, as we started to hear today, but also is safe from 
a homeland security perspective so we know we have an entire 
grid that is safe?
    Mr. Jefferies. Well, that is a great question and one we 
could talk a lot about on. I will just break it down into two 
factors.
    One, effective oversight of the agencies responsible for 
regulating safety to ensure that their regulatory efforts are 
focused on objective, data-driven safety improvements.
    Two, really on the legislative side, looking at ways to 
champion innovation, to expand the ability to use pilot 
programs, to expand the ability to use waivers to demonstrate 
new ways and explore new ways of doing things, to build that 
safety data set that can allow for an informed, educated debate 
about whether or not you should move forward with it.
    This is not anti-worker. This is about creating a 
regulatory framework that keeps up with evolution of technology 
and innovation, and then adjusting worker roles and 
responsibilities to take advantage of that, so that they are 
able to be most effective. And there is a training component to 
that as well.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Anybody else on the panel have 
additional--from the port, for example, or Greg?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. Look, as I said earlier, I believe that 
technology is important. Technological advancements are 
important and they are something that we, as a labor movement, 
embrace.
    Where I get really tired of it is when it is used purely as 
an excuse to lower head count, and we see that in industries 
across the board.
    Our number one priority is to make sure that as we get new 
technology, it is done to enhance our ability to do our jobs, 
to make it safer, so that we know that it is another tool that 
can be at the disposal of the people who are experts in these 
fields and are able to do the job to the best of their ability.
    So, we are all about trying to figure out a way to 
incorporate this and deploy it into the industries where our 
workers are. But we want to make sure it is done in a 
responsible way, and too often it is viewed as an excuse to get 
rid of another worker.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Thank you.
    Mr. Guenther. I can just add, not about the railroads, but 
certainly----
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey [interrupting]. Well, I was using it 
as a basis for every single one of the issue areas you are here 
to speak about.
    Mr. Guenther. Yes. So, similarly, technology is very 
important. We wouldn't be able to do the things that we do and 
be as efficient as we are as a port and terminal operators 
without the technologies that we have.
    But again, I agree, they have to be a tool for the worker. 
We have been successful on that in creating better processes. 
But at the same time, it creates jobs. The more containers that 
you can handle through a terminal, for instance, the more 
longshoremen that are going to be employed.
    So, technology is a good thing, and we need to embrace it 
and use it correctly.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. It needs to work with a partnership 
with the individual as well.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back the remainder of my 
time.
    Mr. Crawford. I thank the gentleman.
    Mr. Van Orden, you are recognized.
    Just a reminder, we are up against a floor vote. So, 
Members are reminded to keep your comments brief and tight, 
please. Thank you.
    Mr. Van Orden. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much.
    Witnesses, I appreciate you coming here today.
    I represent Wisconsin's Third Congressional District. It is 
comprised of 19 whole and partial counties, approximately 
13,000 square miles. We have locks and dams running from Pierce 
County, which is almost directly across from Minneapolis-St. 
Paul, down to the Iowa-Illinois border, across from Dubuque. 
That is lock 3 to lock 11.
    We also are an agrarian district, and we understand that it 
doesn't matter how much grain you are able to produce in a 
field if it can't get to a processing facility and then get to 
a market. It might as well rot there.
    So, the trucking industry is incredibly important to my 
district. So, thank you very much. I have got long-haul, over-
the-road truckers in my family. And so, I appreciate the work 
you have done.
    Being the most junior member of this committee, all of the 
questions I was going to ask you have been asked. So, you're 
out.
    So, Mr. Jefferies, I want to thank you very much. We have 
the BNSF Railway that runs nearly the entire length of my 
district from north to south. And so, it is incredibly 
important to our economy also. Again, all of my questions have 
been asked, so, you are out of luck.
    However, Mr. Firth--hey, listen, we can spend all this 
monopoly money that this administration has been throwing at 
infrastructure, but if we don't have somebody to actually 
complete the work, it is not going to happen. And I am not a 
fan of the Federal Government imposing restrictions and 
regulations on States. However, I would like to ask you this 
question.
    In the State of Wisconsin, they have established some 
artificial limits on the amount of apprentices that a single 
master, a tradesman, can have. So, for instance, a single 
plumber, master plumber, can only have two apprentices that can 
work underneath him simultaneously.
    So, in your professional opinion, if we were to standardize 
the ability for our masters to have more apprentices underneath 
him, what type of effect would that have on your workforce?
    Mr. Firth. Well, I can't speak--I am not a plumber. I don't 
have any experience in that. I usually sub that out.
    Mr. Van Orden. I understand.
    Mr. Firth. But as far as workforce goes, though, I don't 
think it would be a bad thing. It is going to probably cost 
more, it is going to have to be accumulated into the bids that 
we would turn in or whatnot, if you add more people. I think 
there are other avenues for training that we could have through 
apprenticeship programs. I think the trades right now do a 
pretty good job of having those ratios or whatever. I am an 
open shop contractor, so, I can't really speak for how the 
unions work. But, I think it would probably cost more.
    Mr. Van Orden. OK.
    Mr. Guenther, if you could briefly--and maybe we should 
take this later because I am limited on time. Can you speak 
about the effects of the lack of maintenance on our locks and 
dams and the potentiality for the effect on commerce?
    Mr. Guenther. I am sorry. The lack of?
    Mr. Van Orden. The maintenance on our locks and dams.
    Mr. Guenther. Well, similarly, I think it is a big issue, 
similarly to what we have been talking about today, the O&M 
funding. Locks on the inland waterways are very important. I 
know that we handle--we are the largest ship channel in the 
country, but we know there are 200,000 barge movements in and 
around our facility. So, making sure that we are maintaining 
all waterways, not only deepwater, but shallow water. Barge 
canals are extremely important and should be included in the 
funding process.
    Mr. Van Orden. Very well. Thank you very much.
    And, Mr. Regan, reading your written testimony, I can only 
assume that you are not related to Ronald Reagan. Is that 
correct?
    Mr. Regan. No. He fired the air traffic controllers. I am 
lucky enough to represent them.
    Mr. Van Orden. That is correct.
    Hey, so, listen, man, I got to tell you something. I did 
read your testimony, and I am going to strongly encourage you 
to do something: Change your tone.
    So, I am a retired senior enlisted Navy Seal who dropped 
out of high school and got a GED. I have been supporting myself 
financially since I was 16 years old. So, I consider myself a 
tradesman. And we have to work together collectively. But the 
tone of your written testimony is not conducive to that.
    So, I will reach across the aisle to my colleagues. I am 
more than happy to work with union labor, absolutely. But we 
have to start addressing each other in a more respectful 
manner, and I would just encourage you to do that. And I am 
more than happy work with you.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you to the gentleman.
    Mr. Ezell, you are recognized.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    In accordance with the committee rules, I ask for unanimous 
consent to submit a statement from the National Association of 
Waterfront Employers for the record.
    Mr. Crawford. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
   Statement of Robert W. Murray, President, National Association of 
   Waterfront Employers, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Mike Ezell
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and the Members of the 
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, the National Association 
of Waterfront Employers (``NAWE'') appreciates the opportunity to 
submit its views on the current state of U.S. transportation 
infrastructure and present and future challenges throughout the 
international supply chain. As the voice for U.S. marine terminal 
operators (``MTOs'') in Washington, DC, NAWE witnessed first-hand the 
resiliency of America's transportation stakeholders and their labor 
partners in overcoming the unprecedented supply challenges of the last 
three years. Moreover, NAWE is acutely aware of the need for further 
infrastructure investment by private MTOs--with support from the 
Federal government--to meet the challenges of the future.
      Current State of Supply Chain Challenge at Marine Terminals
    As the Members of this Committee know, unprecedented consumer 
demand for durable goods started in April 2020, created congestion 
throughout the entire international supply chain, leading to space 
shortages at domestic warehouses, marine terminals, and rail yards. 
These congestion issues were further exacerbated by critical shortages 
in transportation personnel and equipment, including motor carrier 
drivers, chassis, and containers. As the critical hub in U.S. 
international trade, marine ports were often the focus, both publicly 
and politically, of these supply chain congestion challenges. Indeed, 
photos of fully-laden vessels anchored outside of U.S. ports became the 
symbol of supply chain congestion.
    However, as they have always done, U.S. MTOs and longshoremen 
responded with unwavering resiliency. When other industries were 
shutting down in the face of the pandemic, U.S. MTOs remained open, 
without disruption, to ensure that consumer goods would be delivered in 
a timely manner. When demand for the use of marine terminals exceeded 
capacity, our industry worked with Congress and the Administration to 
find new ways to meet those challenges, including operating marine 
terminals 24 hours a day, seven days week, despite such operations 
creating financial challenges for MTOs.
    Two critical ``tools'' assisted MTOs in meeting these challenges 
and ensuring that operations returned to their current steady state. 
The first was the imposition of terminal demurrage, which created an 
appropriate incentive for shippers to remove containers from marine 
terminals in a timely manner. The second was the ability to rely upon 
MTO agreements filed with the Federal Maritime Commission (``FMC'' or 
the ``Commission'') which, under the protection of antitrust immunity, 
allowed MTOs to coordinate efficiently and effectively to promote cargo 
fluidity.
Terminal Demurrage
    In its simplest terms, terminal demurrage is a storage fee that is 
charged when a shipper improperly seeks to use a marine terminal as a 
warehouse. A critical element to ensuring a steady flow of cargo 
throughout the supply is the timely removal of containers from marine 
terminals by shippers. Marine terminals operate in a finite, zero-sum 
environment. Each container that is sitting at a marine terminal is 
taking up space that a container on the next incoming vessel cannot 
occupy. Unfortunately, throughout the recent supply chain congestion 
challenges, MTOs repeatedly witnessed shippers improperly treating 
marine terminals as long-term storage facilities, particularly when 
shippers' inland warehouses ran out of capacity. Accordingly, terminal 
demurrage served, and continues to serve, as an invaluable incentive to 
ensure that shippers removed their containers swiftly to allow space 
from the next round of import--and export--containers. In addition, 
terminal demurrage ensures that MTOs are appropriately compensated for 
their overhead costs associated with storing containers at the costly, 
waterfront property that marine terminals occupy.
    In midst these supply chain congestion challenges, Congress passed 
the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, Pub. L. No. 117-146 (``OSRA 
2022''). NAWE is extremely grateful that Congress ultimately recognized 
the importance of terminal demurrage in ensuring the fluid transfer of 
cargo through U.S. ports by removing MTOs from the substantive 
demurrage billing requirements of OSRA 2022. Such action was a further 
recognition of Congress that MTOs lack any contractual privity with 
shippers and therefore:
    1.  MTOs have no control over the ``free time'' (i.e., ``rent 
free'' storage time at the marine terminal) agreed to between the ocean 
carrier and the shipper; and
    2.  MTOs have no information as to why the shipper is delayed in 
removing their container from the marine terminal.

    The FMC is currently engaged in a rulemaking process to implement 
OSRA 2022's detention and demurrage billing requirements, having 
published its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (``NPRM'') on October 14, 
2022. Unfortunately, the FMC's NPRM ignored the clear Congressional 
intent and has proposed to include MTOs in OSRA 2022's demurrage 
billing requirements, which would potentially impede the flow of cargo 
and places untenable burdens on MTOs that lack means to obtain the 
information required by OSRA 2022. NAWE looks forward to the Commission 
correcting this error in its final rule. In the interim, NAWE wishes to 
thank Congress for its support regarding the importance of terminal 
demurrage in ensuring the flow cargo and asks this Committee to allow 
the rulemaking process to be completed, consistent with the 
Congressional intention underlying OSRA 2022.
MTO Agreements
    In addition to terminal demurrage, MTOs were able to overcome 
recent supply chain challenges by coordinating efforts under agreements 
filed with the FMC, which are granted antitrust immunity by the 
Shipping Act. MTOs generally operate on leased property within a larger 
public port complex. Accordingly, some level of cooperation between 
competing MTOs is necessary when operating on common port property. 
Congress recognized this unique operational environment, and the 
corresponding need for cooperation between MTO competitors, by granting 
agreements filed with the FMC antitrust immunity (generally after a 
statutorily mandated 45-day waiting period). NAWE's members are 
extremely grateful for this authority, because it allowed MTOs to 
coordinate responses to supply congestion, including extending gate 
hours to 24 hours a day, seven days week. Accordingly, MTOs have used 
their antitrust immunity to support the flow of cargo, often at a 
financial loss and to the benefit of shipper interests, rather than to 
seek self-enrichment.
    Under the FMC's current Shipping Act authority, if the Commission 
believes that a filed MTO agreement, by a reduction in competition, 
would produce an unreasonable reduction in transportation service or an 
unreasonable increase in transportation cost, it can go to district 
court to seek injunctive relief. The FMC has never exercised this 
authority with regard to a filed MTO agreement because, quite simply, 
MTO agreements do not reduce competition, they increase port 
efficiency. Accordingly, NAWE urges Congress to maintain the current 
Shipping Act antitrust immunity and enforcement regime with regard to 
filed MTO agreements, which are invaluable for meeting present and 
future supply chain challenges.
                  Marine Terminal Infrastructure Needs
    NAWE's members face additional challenges when preparing to meet 
supply chain challenges in the future. Foremost of these challenges is 
the requirement to meet decarbonization goals under the Inflation 
Reduction Act's Clean Ports program. Key to achieving these goals is 
the purchase of zero- or near-zero emissions port equipment to replace 
existing cargo handling equipment. Support from this Committee for 
funding opportunities, including through the Port Infrastructure 
Development Program, will be crucial to support these costly next-
generation equipment upgrades. For example, a single diesel tractor 
used at a marine terminal can cost around $150,000, while an electric 
tractor and its charging infrastructure could cost close to $600,000. 
Moreover, the utility infrastructure at ports will need to be adapted 
to allow MTOs to charge their cargo handling equipment and draw more 
electricity from the grid. Accordingly, additional support from this 
Committee will be necessary to allow ports to rapidly develop and 
restructure their infrastructure master plan and implement capital 
improvements.
    In addition to the overwhelming costs, there are significant 
challenges in sourcing American-made zero- or near-zero emissions port 
equipment. Domestic manufacturers are currently partnering with battery 
suppliers to build specialized electric port equipment, however, here 
are still a number of types of cargo handling equipment that are not 
available in the United States. Accordingly, NAWE encourages this 
Committee to adopt a measure of flexibility to allow the use of Federal 
funding to purchase domestically unavailable equipment.

                                 * * *

    NAWE appreciates this Committee's leadership in addressing the 
supply chain and infrastructure challenges that U.S. marine terminal 
operators face currently and in the future. We are also thankful that 
the Committee has invited Roger Guenther, Executive Director of the 
Port Houston, to testify at this hearing. Mr. Guenther is a tremendous 
leader in the marine terminal industry and is an invaluable resource 
for this Committee to better understand the challenges and 
opportunities inherent in the operation of U.S. ports.
    We look forward to continuing to work with this Committee to 
further develop a resilient and competitive U.S. supply chain.

    Mr. Ezell. I will try to talk fast.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I am grateful to have the chance to discuss the many social 
and economic benefits provided by a well-maintained 
transportation system. People want to feel comfortable that 
they can travel safely through our local communities and 
industries and need to know that their goods are delivered 
efficiently and safely at a reasonable cost.
    Mr. Spear, I am going to start with you.
    It is clear from today's discussion there is a need to 
improve the Nation's physical infrastructure to keep pace with 
our global competitors and address inflation.
    In your testimony, Mr. Spear, you mentioned how Federal 
policies affect a State's ability to begin critical 
infrastructure improvements.
    Mr. Spear, how does biased, left-leaning administrative 
guidance cause uncertainty for the projects in our States back 
home?
    Mr. Spear. I think I would dial back to the Federal Highway 
Administration memo that we have been referencing throughout 
this hearing. If everything is going so swimmingly well with 
handing States the moneys they need to do these projects that 
they deem priority, then why have the memo?
    Mr. Ezell. Exactly.
    Mr. Spear. Why have it? You are just breeding confusion, 
including in my industry, but certainly in States like yours. 
So, get rid of the memo. Stop playing games. I know why it is 
there. The environmental lobby doesn't want any more cars and 
trucks on the roads. That is why. So, it is to appease them.
    This is a lot of money. It is a law handed to them to 
administer. There is plenty there to go around even with 
inflation. This is a lot of money. And I think States need to 
be hand and glove working with the Federal Highway 
Administration to get these projects funded and underway.
    So, that eliminates a lot of confusion, just get rid of the 
memo.
    I think as far as emergency response--I understand you have 
a lot of wisdom in this department--making certain that the 
Secretary of Transportation and Governors like that in 
Mississippi have strong lines of authority and communication to 
ensure that we can respond to instances like hurricanes, but 
also things that aren't covered in emergency declarations, like 
the Colonial Pipeline, COVID-19.
    These are things where we really need to break down 
barriers and work together. And I know you have a lot of 
experience in that, and I look forward to working with you on 
it.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you.
    Mr. Guenther, now, the ports of the Mississippi gulf coast 
are unique in terms of types of services, but they are 
similarly dependent upon regular maintenance of their 
navigation channels and approaches.
    In your testimony, you touched on this briefly, but can you 
talk more about the importance of channel deepening and 
widening projects and the maintenance dredging performed by the 
Army Corps of Engineers?
    Also, what are some specific challenges you have faced with 
these projects, and how can Congress help?
    Mr. Guenther. Thank you for the question. Certainly, 
Houston and the rest of the ports in the Mississippi gulf coast 
have similar issues with maintaining the dredging. I think 
there is a lot of certainly togetherness in that.
    And as we move forward, we just need to make sure, like I 
had mentioned before, that we are getting O&M funding to do 
that, to keep them. All these channels, they are authorized to 
be at a certain depth and a certain width for a reason, to 
serve the economy of the United States of America, and we ought 
to spend the money to make sure that we keep those at their 
authorized depths so that we can have the efficient flow and 
competitive commerce in this country.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you.
    And with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
    The chair has been notified there will be a series of votes 
occurring on the House floor. The committee shall stand in 
recess subject to the call of the chair.
    [Recess.]
    Dr. Van Drew [presiding]. The Committee on Transportation 
and Infrastructure will reconvene, and I recognize myself for 5 
minutes.
    Crazy day, isn't it?
    My questions are going to be a little bit different, and I 
just wanted your thoughts in general. You are in different 
areas of industry and business and transportation. And I want 
to say from the get-go that I certainly am supportive of 
renewable energies and of a cleaner planet and trying to do 
everything that we could do.
    I am also supportive of the idea that I want America always 
to be number one, and we should never be ashamed of it. We have 
to be the best.
    And I have a little bit of concern because of that, and you 
deal with all this, that some of the requirements that do exist 
or may exist in the future are going to make it a little bit 
more difficult for you at times. It is going to be hard to do.
    I was here earlier on in the day, some of the discussions 
of all the things that are required. So, making sure that 
everything is running the way that Government sees it isn't 
always necessarily best for business or the easiest for 
business.
    So, when it comes to the supply chain, I believe that part 
of it exists, the problems that we have with it, to some degree 
exist because of some of the changes that we may be trying to 
make, quite frankly and candidly, a little bit too quickly. I 
believe that it can be good. We have more to learn.
    So, with that, I would ask you, just each one of you, 
quickly to say what you think the greatest challenge is. And 
without getting nervous, I promise nobody will yell at you, if 
in some ways you are being pushed too hard, or we could just 
slow it down a little bit and make sure that we are competing.
    Because, last thing I will leave with you, again, not 
necessarily in what you are all involved in, but in many forms 
of business, industry, energy particularly, we are putting all 
these requirements upon ourselves, for example, in energy, but 
we are not really the problem, whether people want to admit it 
or not. And India is not, China is not, Russia is not, and many 
other countries are not putting these requirements upon 
themselves.
    So, it is sort of like saying, well, we are going to be 
perfect. It is going to cost us more. It is going to be harder. 
We are going to create issues. We are going to have to buy more 
stuff from other people because of all these requirements. That 
is not necessarily a good thing.
    I just wanted some general thoughts on that. And I know 
everybody was touching on you about, well, what are you doing 
about this and how are you going to make sure everything is 
exactly perfect in the brave new world? I would like to see the 
other viewpoint.
    So, Chris, I will start you, we'll just go right down the 
line.
    Mr. Spear. Sure. Listen, as I said in my opening statement 
and hopefully conveyed throughout the hearing, let's just be 
realistic. That is all. Just put all the headwinds that we are 
going to face as a country to get to zero. It will come. It 
will happen eventually.
    But this rush that we are seeing, this timeline, is simply 
unachievable. It is going to be embarrassing, because we are 
not going to hit it. We are not going to have the 
infrastructure in place. Let's just say we did, we are not 
going to have the power to put into it because we haven't 
invested and opened that up. And we are not going to have 
access to the minerals needed to create the batteries that go 
into these trucks.
    I had an instance in Joliet, Illinois, a member built a 30-
stall, not a big facility, but a 30-stall distribution center 
there. ``Well, let's just electrify it.'' And they submitted 
the plans.
    The city of Joliet shows up a few days later and says, 
``What are you building here?''
    ``What do you mean? It is a truck terminal.''
    They said, ``You are asking for more power for this 30-
stall facility than the entire city of Joliet.''
    That is the disconnect, and that is not solved overnight.
    Dr. Van Drew. Exactly.
    Mr. Spear. So, let's be realistic about it. Let's put all 
the headwind on the table, and let's come up with a timeline 
that works. And we are all in on that. But that has to be 
transparent.
    Mr. Jefferies. Yes. Government can obviously--policy can 
help drive the process forward, but the market has got to be 
able to react and innovate in order to meet those top-line 
goals.
    And you can facilitate, you can support, you can take a 
carrot approach. But, to Chris' point, you have to look at 
things holistically, and just demanding one thing in one area 
here without considering the consequences or the inputs 
required from another part of the process, you just end up in a 
backwards situation where you are being jerked back and forth 
and trying to figure out just what the path forward is.
    So, it just requires a holistic, clear-eyed approach.
    Mr. Firth. Yes. For me, I think it is the administrative 
burdens that are going to be coming down the pipeline, I think, 
to comply with all these Federal requirements, as it gets more 
complicated.
    We have 215 employees that we look after. We have an office 
full of maybe 15 people. And I kind of think if all of a sudden 
Buy America, do I have to hire somebody just to be an expert in 
Buy America, for instance?
    And then I also kind of think about, OK, what about some of 
these smaller firms that don't have those resources, those 
capabilities to be an expert in Buy America?
    So, somehow or another we have got to be a little simpler. 
And simple is better.
    Dr. Van Drew. I agree with you.
    Mr. Guenther. Just a thought about the supply chain from a 
port perspective.
    Supply chain disruption was really due to one thing, and 
that was just the historic demand on the system that wasn't 
able to absorb it. There hadn't been a single thing really that 
has fixed it so far, except for that the demand has gone down.
    We have learned a lot. We need to continue to look at more 
cushion in the movement of freight, of goods, with lower 
emissions, that achieve the goals that we need to. And I would 
just cite, let's don't get overly aggressive with the rules 
that fix it going forward.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan. Well, I am used to getting yelled at.
    Dr. Van Drew. Time has expired, but go ahead, you finish 
up.
    Mr. Regan. I would just say we need to have the workforce 
in place to be able to meet the consumer demand that we are 
going to have, both from a passenger and freight perspective, 
and we also need to rebuild our manufacturing capacity so that 
we are not completely reliant on foreign countries for the 
critical materials that we need to rebuild in a greener and a 
better way.
    Dr. Van Drew. My time has expired. I appreciate you guys.
    I am going to recognize now Mr. Williams, Representative 
Williams, for a statement.
    Mr. Williams of New York. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you to the witnesses for being here. We certainly 
cover a broad swath of transportation here. So, thank you for 
your time.
    I had the benefit of attending the Wharton School and 
studying operations under Patrick Harker and Professor Marshall 
Fisher, if you have ever come across either of them. So, I have 
a slight understanding of queueing theory and OR models and 
some of the things I think--the tools that you use.
    But more importantly, I played the beer game. And before 
you or other of my colleagues here think it is that beer game, 
it is actually the supply chain beer game, which I think 
perhaps many of you have played or members of your team have. 
And the idea is that in any kind of supply chain across 
multiple distribution points, if you don't have visibility and 
transparency in data, that you make some very egregious 
decisions and assumptions about supply and demand and capacity 
and utilization and all those things.
    And I notice in the petroleum industry they have the Energy 
Information Administration. A little bit different function. I 
know it is a commodity. It is much simpler. But the industry 
cooperates in ways that share data and visibility around 
supplies, storage, transport, all of these kinds of things that 
seem to make things move a little bit simpler.
    And it is really an open-ended question. Are you aware of 
any industry or federally sponsored clearinghouses or 
brokerages of real-time or time-relevant data--whatever that 
is, if it is daily, or weekly, or hourly, whatever it is that 
is giving visibility of supply chain information--that makes 
your jobs easier, that makes you more efficient?
    Is there a role to be played by the Federal Government to 
broker this kind of exchange of information that helps you do 
your job better? Is that something you have considered? Or is 
there something I should be aware of and I could look into?
    Mr. Jefferies. I am happy to take the first crack at that. 
In the rail industry, actually, my organization is a primary 
clearinghouse for data along those lines. We have a wholly 
owned subsidiary called Railinc in Cary, North Carolina, that 
is kind of the IT backbone of information sharing and 
information transfer, because we are an interconnected network 
and exchange traffic, exchange business across lines so much 
that tracking that is critically important. Also, we are 
required to submit a vast amount of reporting data to our 
economic regulator, the Surface Transportation Board. And all 
of that data is generated in-house in my shop.
    I will also say there is a pretty significant push, 
recognizing that the Amazonification of the world has occurred. 
And when I order a pizza, I want to know when the pepperoni is 
going on it before it goes in the oven. And so, there is a lot 
of work in telematics and real-time sensor tracking, et cetera, 
in the industry. There is a joint company that has been stood 
up with railroads--short lines, Class I's, carowners, car 
leasers--really working to make headway there. So, there are a 
lot of efforts afoot.
    Mr. Williams of New York. I understand that with rolling 
stock and maybe to manage capacity across a rail line, again, 
not my area of expertise, but what about, like, bill of lading? 
What about the actual flow of materials that allows companies 
to communicate better? And again, if you have played the beer 
game, you know what I am talking about, is that if you have 
better data transparency, it really makes a huge difference in 
how things flow. And again, if this doesn't exist, if it is 
something we should look at or that you think has obvious 
barriers like no one would do that, then let me know.
    Mr. Jefferies. At the risk of dominating the conversation, 
that is an issue we ran into during some of the container 
supply chain challenges from port to truck or port to rail to 
inland yard and to final destination warehouses. A lot of times 
your contract is with the ocean carrier, and you don't know who 
the beneficial cargo owner is or what is in the box, and so, 
you are kind of playing a guessing game about where you are 
positioning your boxes in the yard, and just some simple 
knowledge transfer I know our folks have said would allow for 
an easier transition of product.
    Mr. Guenther. Yes, I agree. There is information there. It 
has just become the sharing of that information, for 
competitive reasons or whatever it is, is that likely to occur? 
And it is not occurring today, but there is a lot of data out 
there, it is just not being exchanged.
    Mr. Williams of New York. Thank you. And maybe the 
Government could be a good-faith broker, in some way, of data. 
But thank you.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you. The gentleman's time has expired.
    I now recognize Mr. Molinaro for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Molinaro. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank all of you. I 
know it has been a long day.
    I was here earlier during some of the conversation 
regarding the pandemic. I spent the last 12 years as a county 
executive in New York local government. I just want to 
acknowledge, first and foremost, that you and the folks you 
represent really during a time of great challenge rose to the 
occasion and, frankly, we ought not forget that. The challenge 
that we all faced and the determination in many ways, although 
I didn't agree with the language of the essential work, that 
the folks that you represent here really offered American 
people over those 2 years.
    Having listened to a conversation about beer and pizza, I 
am suddenly very hungry. But that said, I want to return to my 
experience during those 12 years in local government.
    And, Jeff, if I could, rural communities in particular are 
underrepresented in inflation calculations. The miles they have 
to travel to move projects, the lack of workforce, the supply 
chain issues really are exacerbated in rural communities. Can 
you talk for a moment, in particular, if you can localize it 
for me, meaning New York--and to the extent you can, I will 
accept it, to the extent you can't, I will accept it--but can 
you talk to the real life burden and the challenge we now have 
in more rural communities to move infrastructure project in 
particular?
    Mr. Firth. Absolutely. I can't speak to New York. But, for 
instance, we have a project out at Yellowstone National Park 
where we are replacing a bridge. And you wouldn't really think 
about the logistics that need to go into getting materials in 
and out of the park, but also, too, from our workforce on if 
you are working 6 days a week, they have got to go to the store 
and get groceries, they have got to get laundry done, they have 
got to drive back and forth. These rural areas, it is very 
difficult sometimes to get the infrastructure in place to 
support call it the project that is actually happening.
    So, I would say that it is not insurmountable, but you have 
just got to think kind of outside the box and be proactive.
    Mr. Molinaro. And that is why I took a little issue with a 
slide we saw earlier during the hearing. I would offer $10 
billion in 2022 doesn't go as far as $8 billion did in 2021. 
And that has a lot do with both inflation, the supply chain 
issues, and the challenges that we have in rural America to 
move projects.
    I appreciated your reference in your testimony to Secretary 
Buttigieg's comment, no one understands a community's need 
better than those who live there. I wonder, Jeff, and maybe 
Chris, if you could, in the few moments I have left, my concern 
is that the infrastructure dollars flow to State governments 
and don't often make it to the ground. I know that I look very 
young, but I am old enough to remember the last infrastructure 
bill in 2008. And in the State of New York, very few dollars 
found their way to actual projects. Could you perhaps just 
reflect on that?
    I am concerned in particular that State government, at 
least, again, localizing it in New York, consumes too much of 
those dollars and that we didn't build in enough of a drive to 
localize it. And I would say, I do not take a plea agreement on 
that Federal Highway Administration memo. I think it does send 
a message that there is a priority and it isn't necessarily 
what those in the local communities feel is necessary.
    Mr. Firth. Yes, I think having the State governments have 
their own decisionmaking on what is best for what their 
communities are, right? They are living and breathing it. They 
understand what their needs are better than, I think, than, 
say, a one-size-fits-all policy coming from Washington. So, 
that is how I would answer that.
    Mr. Molinaro. And maybe to Chris, same question, but is 
there a concern that the States gobble up those dollars before 
they get to local communities, cities, counties, et cetera?
    Mr. Spear. That has been the trend, but I think also we 
have lacked the kind of spending that you witness in the IIJA. 
You love it or hate it, that is a lot of money. That is a lot 
of money. Even with inflation, there is a lot of money going 
out the door. And that is why we have oversight, to make 
certain that it is being spent correctly.
    I do think smaller communities that are generally 80 
percent if not more dependent on trucks to deliver their daily 
goods do get generally less of a voice on such matters. But 
their infrastructure in most instances is a lot less expensive 
than, say, around very heavily urban populated areas.
    So, I do think it is important for hearings like this, 
groups like ours, to make certain that they are not lost, that 
they are getting the dollars, because those roads still need to 
be maintained. We still need to make certain that we are 
delivering just in time. So, people want it faster today than 
they used to. COVID we saw us move more to, I want it in 2 days 
or less. That has shifted our entire industry radically to 
warehousing things regionally to get things to people's door, 
but it takes more drivers, it takes more equipment to do that. 
And we need infrastructure to get it on. So, a lot of that is 
in rural communities and they can't be lost.
    Dr. Van Drew. The gentleman's time has expired. Thank you.
    And I now recognize Mr. James for 5 minutes of questions.
    Mr. James. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I also would like to take another moment to thank you and 
applaud you for your stamina, your patience in the work that 
you put in not just today, but each and every single day.
    I ran a supply chain logistics company, automotive, in 
Detroit. I deal with trucking and rail each and every single 
day to satisfy our customers and to help grow our economy. I 
was asked recently by a reporter in reference to what you are 
hearing about the debt ceiling in this meeting that is going on 
with the President and the Speaker today. And they asked me 
specifically, well, what are you going to cut? And I responded, 
we are going to cut harmful regulations that make it more 
difficult to bring jobs back from Mexico and China. We are 
going to cut taxes to make it more easy to get folks the money 
that they have earned and so that they can take care of 
themselves and their families.
    So, to those ends, what we are going to cut to make things 
easier to do business, to make it more hospitable to do 
business in America, I need you to inform us how we can keep 
our promises to the taxpayers, to our constituents, to our 
customers, to lower prices, bring back jobs, and keep our 
communities safer.
    By expounding a little bit, this is to no one in 
particular, because you all have expertise here and I only have 
3 minutes, but how do we help remove unnecessary bottlenecks? 
What are the onerous regulations that we can get out of your 
way so you can be more successful? And what technological 
improvements can we assist with helping you move forward?
    Mr. Jefferies. I am not shy. So, one, I think as an 
industry that spends average $24 billion of our own capital 
every year putting it back into our network and also partners 
with States, localities on public grant programs for projects 
of big significance throughout the country, it is, how do we 
put that money to work more quickly? How do we get through 
reviews, permitting, et cetera, in a much more predictable, 
rational way that provides certainty to our folks who are 
making investment decisions? Again, all folks need a certainty 
about what to expect, and they can manage that process.
    Two, it is really looking at the regulatory framework, and 
how do we make sure it is focused on the future, how do we make 
sure it is focused on innovation, how does it champion 
technological deployment? How do we modernize the regulatory 
structure? And that doesn't mean always just getting rid of 
regulations, it is adjusting for the present day and for the 
future so that we can be more nimble and we can evolve as 
required.
    We can go on and on, but I don't want to take----
    Mr. James [interrupting]. You have 2 minutes.
    Mr. Spear. That is fine. I was told I talk too much, so--
not you, me.
    But I would just say, listen, really quick, I think the 
bottlenecks have been very much covered. I think they are going 
to be released next week. We will certainly send it up to you. 
You can prioritize and see where everybody ranks around the 
country. That is a roadmap. That is where DOT should be 
centering its gravity. Alleviating congestion brings down 
inflation. It improves safety, it lowers fuel burn, it lowers 
emissions. These are all good things. There is something in 
that for everybody. And it is such an easy list to look at. You 
can see where it is happening.
    On a more regulatory front, we talked earlier about our 
workforce. Listen, with all these States, Canada included, 
legalizing recreational marijuana, we need tools to deal with 
this. We need hair testing, OK, beyond urinalysis. We need to 
make certain that people getting behind the wheel of an 80,000-
pound vehicle are not impaired. And we want to work with you.
    And that channel conflict on the regulatory front between 
HHS and DOT is real. They do not communicate. They are not 
willing to cut a deal on this thing. We have told them to do 
this, legislated this, and now we are back before you again to 
deal with it. This is going to create a very litigious 
environment if we do not deal with the regulatory framework 
that oversees an interstate commerce industry like ours. So, 
hair testing would be very appreciated, and we look forward to 
working with you on it.
    Mr. James. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
    Dr. Van Drew. I now recognize Mr. Duarte for 5 minutes of 
questioning.
    Mr. Duarte. Well, thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, 
Chairman. I appreciate being here today.
    I represent a rural district in California that sits right 
outside of San Francisco. We ship a lot of almonds out of our 
district. We ship a tremendous amount of ag commodities to west 
coast ports. And we also have a large commuter pool that 
travels or tries to travel daily from Lathrop, northern and 
southern parts of my district, into the bay area, one of the 
most dynamic job markets in the world. And I am very concerned 
about two things. And I will welcome answers from any of you. I 
have read all of your comments that were submitted, so, thank 
you for that.
    One is, are my constituents getting their best bang for 
their buck out of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, 
or is America hamstringing our ability to add the lanes that 
working families need to get to work with carbon, Buy American? 
Do we have the power grid to support a long-term production of 
domestic building supplies, rebar? Does anybody want to build a 
steel plant in America today with the carbon policies hanging 
over us? I would like some very candid answers to that.
    And then, we have also understood that on the port side, a 
great deal of our backlogging at the ports--there have been 
some bank reports. Rabobank did a very extensive report on nut 
supply chain issues--peanuts, walnuts, almonds, pistachios--and 
really pointed out shipping company consolidation in the last 
decade as being a major culprit of, I would call, a planned 
scarcity of shipping capacity that spiked revenues and 
increased shipping company profits extraordinarily.
    So, please, any of you that would like to address any of 
those issues I'll welcome.
    Mr. Regan. To answer your first question about whether or 
not people want to make steel plants in this country, I have 
spoken to iron, steel, aluminum manufacturers, they want to 
expand their capacity, they are ready to do that. And we want 
to help them do that. And if we wanted to find how are we are 
getting the best bang for our buck, if you want to be able to 
have the cheapest stuff, that is one way to define it. In my 
view, making sure that we are using this massive expenditure to 
also invest in our communities, that means investing in our 
manufacturing capacity as a country so we are not relying on 
overseas for manufactured goods. I think that is a really good 
bang for our buck long term for our country. I also think 
investing in good jobs, making sure that there are decent wages 
and decent benefits so that people have disposable income to 
reinvest in their communities. That is a pretty darn good bang 
for your buck.
    In addition to delivering really high-quality 
transportation systems in this country, I think doing it the 
right way has monumental benefits outside of just the new roads 
or the new train route. I think that we can actually invest in 
our communities and our people in a way that we haven't always 
done in the past.
    Mr. Duarte. Excellent. Thank you.
    Mr. Guenther. I would just add that, are they getting the 
bang for their buck, you made some comments earlier about your 
agricultural constituents field growing walnuts, shipping them 
around the country. The assets in an efficient supply chain, 
whether that is in the waterways or the highways or the 
infrastructure, getting it to and from the port efficiently 
should be first and foremost. The more we can put on the ship 
and the quicker we can get it through our ports, the better off 
for your constituents.
    Mr. Duarte. I agree. In summary, my platform is abundance. 
We need abundant food, abundant energy. And logistics are a 
major factor in abundance. And abundance to working families is 
affordability, and my district is entirely working families.
    Mr. Guenther. Yes. No doubt. And an efficient terminal, the 
trucker deserves a clean run through there. They need to be 
serving the rail, all of the modes of the supply chain need to 
be efficient or it is passed onto the consumer, whether it is 
an import or an export of those goods.
    Mr. Firth. Yes. I think the best bang for the buck, the 
American people are going to see it maybe not right now, but 
later. I think back to when the highway system was built back 
in, what, the fifties and the sixties, it probably wasn't 
recognized right at that moment, but it catapulted America 
later on down the road. I think that is where something today 
is that with the IIJA money, we are going to be able to see 
that that is going to take America further down the road and 
be----
    Mr. Duarte [interrupting]. Is it going to manifest itself 
in markedly better freeways, easier commutes to work, better 
logistics in our products and goods getting to markets and 
getting to consumers in ways that improve their lives?
    Mr. Firth. I think so.
    Mr. Duarte. Are there ways to make that even better?
    Mr. Firth. Well, you have kind of heard me talking about 
permitting. That is kind of one of my hot buttons, is that 
streamlining permitting, we have got to get it built first. And 
so, if we want greener and faster and everything better, it 
starts with permitting, we have got to figure that out.
    Mr. Duarte. Thank you.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you. The gentleman's time has expired. 
And the gentleman yields back.
    Are there further questions from any member of the 
committee who has not been previously recognized?
    Seeing none, that concludes our hearing for today. I would 
like to thank each of the witnesses for your testimony.
    I ask unanimous consent that the record of today's hearing 
remains open until such time as our witnesses have provided 
answers to any questions that may be submitted to them in 
writing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that the record remain open 
for 15 days for any additional comments and information 
submitted by Members or witnesses to be included in the record 
of today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    The committee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 2:37 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]


                       Submissions for the Record

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Letter of February 10, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, Committee on 
 Transportation and Infrastructure, from Christine M. Burgeson, Senior 
      Vice President, Airlines for America, and attached aviation 
 stakeholders letter of November 15, 2022, Submitted for the Record by 
                            Hon. Sam Graves
                                                 February 10, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, 2165 Rayburn House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Members of the Committee:
    Thank you for holding the hearing entitled ``The State of 
Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges'' earlier 
this month. Like many on the official witness panel, aviation too faces 
supply chain challenges.
    While there are certainly many supply chain challenges across the 
aviation sector, we would like to draw your attention to one key supply 
chain breakdown that is of particular and timely concern. On November 
15, 2022, a broad group of aviation stakeholders wrote the 
Administration regarding their commitment to finding reasonable 
solutions that allow implementation of 5G while addressing safety and 
operational disruptions in the National Airspace System. One component 
of those reasonable solutions is the ongoing effort to retrofit 
impacted aircraft with radio altimeters (RAs) that are not susceptible 
to interference from 5G signals. The aviation community has been 
actively and aggressively engaged in meeting retrofit deadlines, 
however, supply chain challenges and certification solutions are making 
deadlines difficult, if not impossible, to meet. In particular, the 
letter stated:
    ``Unfortunately, due to global supply chain issues, lack of a 
certified solution for one key RA, and the FAA only recently 
identifying the criteria for RAs that would not need to be changed, RA 
manufacturers and air carriers will likely be unable to fully meet 
either the December 2022 deadlines for smaller regional aircraft and 
many large transports nor the July 2023 retrofit deadline, though we 
continue to do everything within our power to do so. Further, all this 
investment will be wasted if a long-term mitigation plan is not put in 
place and codified in regulation, as additional wireless providers that 
have not been part of these interim voluntary efforts begin to provide 
services.''
    We respectively request the Committee consider including the 
attached aviation stakeholder letter in the hearing record to make sure 
the Committee is aware of these acute supply chain challenges and the 
mitigations necessary to address them.
    Thank you for your consideration,
                                     Christine M. Burgeson,
                       Senior Vice President, Airlines for America.
                               attachment
                                                 November 15, 2022.
The Honorable Brian Deese,
National Economic Council Director,
Executive Office of the President, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 
        Washington, DC 20500.
The Honorable Gina M. Raimondo,
Secretary of Commerce,
U.S. Department of Commerce, 1401 Constitution Avenue, NW, Washington, 
        DC 20230.
The Honorable Pete Buttigieg,
Secretary of Transportation,
U.S. Department of Transportation, 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, 
        Washington, DC 20590.
The Honorable Alan Davidson,
Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information,
National Telecommunications and Information Administration, U.S. 
        Department of Commerce, 1401 Constitution Avenue, NW, 
        Washington, DC 20230.
Mr. Billy Nolen,
Acting Administrator,
Federal Aviation Administration, 800 Independence Avenue, SW, 
        Washington, DC 20591.
    Dear Director Deese, Secretary Raimondo, Secretary Buttigieg, 
Assistant Secretary Davidson and Acting Administrator Nolen:
    It has been more than a year since a coalition of aviation 
stakeholders met with the National Economic Council (NEC) to discuss 
the need for C-Band 5G implementation to occur without sacrificing 
aviation safety. This meeting came after years of meetings and letters 
to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), the National 
Telecommunications and Information Agency (NTIA) and the Federal 
Aviation Administration (FAA) raising significant concerns over the 
FCC's auction of the 3700-3980 MHz spectrum (C-Band) and how it will 
impact radar altimeters (RAs) and the continued safe operation of 
commercial aircraft within the National Airspace System (NAS).
    Those meetings, and the last-minute intervention of the Secretary 
of Transportation prevented the grounding of a significant portion of 
the US commercial aviation fleet. This marked the beginning of a 
collaborative and fruitful discussion between the telecommunication 
industry, specifically Verizon and AT&T, and the aviation industry. 
However, after a year of discussions and despite accommodations made by 
all parties, we are now seven months away from the next deadline, with 
significant risks still unresolved. We believe that by finding 
accommodations now, we can prevent another last-minute herculean 
intervention by the Administration and major disruption to our air 
transport system.
    The baseline situation remains unchanged. Our industry is strongly 
supportive of the deployment and implementation of 5G services 
nationwide, but we will not compromise aviation safety. Since our 
conversations last winter, the FAA has verified that certain aircraft 
RAs are susceptible to interference from 5G signals with a subsequent 
degradation of safety. Since January 2022 the FAA has documented over 
100 FAA incidents of potential 5G interference, the majority of which 
were found to have a direct RA impact resulting in safety alerts by 
systems such as the Terrain Avoidance Warning System. Unfortunately, 
the US government agencies do not appear to be on the same page with 
respect to these safety issues. As a result, aviation stakeholders are 
caught in the middle and ultimately passengers and shippers will be the 
ones who will bear the brunt of any operational disruption caused if 
this issue is not resolved.
    Inter-agency government progress appears to be at a stalemate, 
while stakeholders are doing their part to address these issues. 
Aviation stakeholders, the FAA, and AT&T and Verizon have spent much of 
the last year trying to understand and implement what is required to 
continue safely operating aircraft in a 5G environment. This has 
required compromise, understanding, and investment by all parties. AT&T 
and Verizon implemented various mitigations, such as taking a phased 
approach to maintain lower power levels near airports and tilting 
antennas downward and have agreed to continue those mitigations through 
July 2023. The aviation industry is taking on the burden of designing 
and implementing a fleet retrofit to ensure that RAs are not 
compromised and retrofitting the entire fleet in less than two years is 
unprecedented.
    Unfortunately, due to global supply chain issues, lack of a 
certified solution for one key RA, and the FAA only recently 
identifying the criteria for RAs that would not need to be changed, RA 
manufacturers and air carriers will likely be unable to fully meet 
either the December 2022 deadlines for smaller regional aircraft and 
many large transports nor the July 2023 retrofit deadline, though we 
continue to do everything within our power to do so. Further, all this 
investment will be wasted if a long-term mitigation plan is not put in 
place and codified in regulation, as additional wireless providers that 
have not been part of these interim voluntary efforts begin to provide 
services.
    Our aviation coalition strongly believes that instead of once again 
waiting until the eleventh hour, now is the time for the leadership at 
federal agencies and the White House to implement a solution that 
allows 5G to move forward and avoid further flight delays and 
cancellations. The FAA recently sent a petition to the NTIA and FCC 
requesting a codification of reasonable mitigations. While we have not 
seen the FAA's official petition to the NTIA and FCC, the FAA has 
informed stakeholders that to continue the operational safety of the 
NAS, the FCC rules and applicable Report and Order FCC-20-22 should be 
modified to address safety issues raised by the FAA. Furthermore, as 
the FCC, NTIA and FAA work to codify these requirements, it is critical 
to extend these mitigations through the end of 2023 to allow airlines 
time to complete the retrofit. We respectfully request that the US 
government share with stakeholders and the public the entire content of 
the petition by Friday November 18, 2022. The public has a strong 
interest in having access to the basis for concerns about aviation 
safety.
    We will continue to be committed to finding reasonable solutions 
that allow implementation of 5G while addressing safety and operational 
disruptions in the NAS. Stakeholders cannot do this alone and we need 
the federal government to codify mitigations for all airports and 
extend the July 2023 and ``Power Up'' retrofit deadlines. The entire 
government must work together to ensure future 5G deployment is 
unencumbered and our aviation system remains the safest in the world. 
Aviation stakeholders call on the Administration to meet with us to 
discuss a way forward that will achieve the goal of moving 5G forward, 
while ensuring passengers and cargo reach their destinations safely and 
on time.
        Sincerely,
Aerospace Industries Association.
Aerospace Vehicle Systems Institute.
Air Line Pilots Association, International.
Airborne Public Safety Association.
Airbus.
Aircraft Electronics Association.
Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.
Airlines for America.
Allied Pilots Association.
Boeing.
Cargo Airline Association.
Collins Aerospace.
Embraer.
Experimental Aircraft Association, Inc.
Garmin.
General Aviation Manufacturers Association.
Helicopter Association International.
International Air Transport Association.
National Air Carrier Association.
National Business Aviation Association.
Regional Air Cargo Carriers Association.
Regional Airline Association.
RTCA.
Thales.

cc:  Jessica Rosenworcel, Chairwoman, Federal Communications Commission

                                 
Report, ``The Safety Impact of Technology and Crew Size: An analysis of 
accident data, incorporation of technology, and train crew staff levels 
   on rail safety trends,'' B. Dierker, December 2022, Alliance for 
  Innovation and Infrastructure, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam 
                                 Graves
    The 73-page report is retained in committee files and is available 
online at https://www.aii.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/The-Safety-
Impact-of-Technology-and-Crew-Size.pdf.

                                 
Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
 from Chet Thompson, President and CEO, American Fuel & Petrochemical 
       Manufacturers, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves
                                                  February 1, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 2165 Rayburn HOB, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 2164 Rayburn HOB, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen,
    The United States' integrated network of pipelines, ports, 
waterways, roadways, and railroads is critical to supply chains and 
hence the nation's economy. Midstream infrastructure delivers oil and 
gas from upstream production fields to refineries and petrochemical 
manufacturing facilities, and essential products from those facilities 
to consumers across the country. Without this critical infrastructure, 
energy and chemical supply chains would grind to a halt.
    American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers (``AFPM'') is the 
leading trade association representing U.S. refiners and petrochemical 
manufacturers, whose products make modern life and transportation 
possible. We greatly appreciate your committee's attention to important 
supply chain issues. While the February 1st hearing will be an 
important forum to discuss these issues, it is missing a key voice: the 
shipper community.
    As one of the largest groups of shippers in the nation,\1\ AFPM 
submits this statement for the record sharing our members' perspective 
on the current state of the United States supply chain. While AFPM 
members utilize all aspects of midstream infrastructure, this statement 
focuses on freight rail, as it poses the most significant challenges to 
our operations and supply chains. Indeed, reduced rail competition and 
the resulting deterioration in service have greatly hindered our 
members' ability to move feedstocks to their facilities and products to 
consumers.
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    \1\ Our members rely on the rail network to get feedstocks to our 
facilities and products to market. Annually in the United States, over 
2 million carloads of our members' feedstocks and products, including 
crude oil, natural gas liquids, refined products, petrochemicals, and 
plastics are transported by rail. See ``Freight Rail Facts and 
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    A healthy, efficient rail system helps the United States economy 
thrive and benefits all parties, including railroads, rail shippers, 
and ultimately consumers. Unfortunately, over the past few decades, 
through consolidation the number of major United States railroads has 
drastically contracted, resulting in decreased rail competition, 
degraded rail service, exponential rate increases, and higher prices 
for consumers.\2\ The negative impacts of this consolidation have been 
exacerbated more recently by widespread adoption of cost-cutting 
operating models and myopic focus on short-term profits, which, in 
turn, have led railroads to slash their workforce, shelve equipment, 
and close railyards across the country.\3\ The result of these measures 
has been widespread delays and embargoes and increased costs for 
consumers.\4\ \5\
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    \2\ See https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/freight-rail-america-
can-market-be-free-if-theres-almost-no-competition
    \3\ Class I railroads cut 45,000 jobs from 2016 to 2021--nearly 30% 
of their workforce according to STB data.
    \4\ Last spring and summer, two Class I railroads announced 
temporary embargos of shipments that impacted the refining and 
petrochemical industry. In addition, the use of embargoes related to 
general network congestion has exponentially increased with one 
railroad increasing embargoes by 2,000% since 2017. See Docket EP 772 
https://dcms-external.s3.amazonaws.com/DCMS_External_PROD/
1669134260584/51506.pdf
    \5\ Transportation and distribution costs account for between 5-17 
percent of the price a consumer pays for a gallon of gasoline or 
diesel. See Gasoline and Diesel Fuel Update--U.S. Energy Information 
Administration (EIA).
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    The Surface Transportation Board (STB) is the sole federal agency 
charged with resolving commercial freight rail issues, including 
service, competition, and rates. We applaud STB's recent efforts to 
improve rail service and address freight rail challenges. But, with 
Congress's help, more can be done.
    AFPM supports bipartisan legislation to reauthorize the STB and to 
provide it with the resources and authorities it needs to quickly 
address rail service issues. More specifically, AFPM encourages 
Congress to:

        Update the Common Carrier Obligation: As defined in the 
        Staggers Act, the ``common carrier obligation'' requires that 
        rail carriers serve the wider shipping public ``on reasonable 
        request.'' Recent railroads actions (e.g., drastic reduced 
        service schedules and exponentially increased usage of 
        embargoes) highlight the need to address what a reasonable 
        level of service is under the common carrier obligation. Rail 
        carriers are extremely averse to including even the most basic 
        service delivery standards in contracts, particularly for 
        captive rail shippers. Such standards would improve service 
        reliability and allow manufacturers and refiners to plan 
        accordingly and avoid facility slowdowns or unexpected outages. 
        Congress should clarify service obligations and hold railroads 
        accountable to those standards.

        Foster Increased Competition in Freight Rail: AFPM believes in 
        free market solutions, but the free market does not work when 
        there is no competition, or even a realistic threat of 
        competition. Congress can help support STB by allocating it 
        additional resources to address open rulemaking dockets, 
        including Reciprocal Switching (Docket EP 711). With well-
        designed reciprocal switching provisions in place, railroads 
        would be faced with a simple decision, provide better service 
        to rail shippers or risk losing business to a competitor.

        Enhance the STB's ability to address critical service issues: 
        In the past two years, rail service delivery issues have caused 
        facilities in critical industries to slow or temporarily cease 
        operations and to seek costly shipping alternatives, all at the 
        expense of the American consumer. Congress should grant STB 
        additional emergency authorities to quickly address service 
        disruptions in critical industries such as refining and 
        petrochemical manufacturing.

        Recognize current state of rail car ownership: Current law 
        allows railroads to charge shippers fees (demurrage) when 
        shippers are slow to load or unload rail cars. Rail car 
        ownership has shifted such that rail customers now own 
        approximately 75 percent of freight rail cars. Despite this 
        shift in ownership and maintenance responsibility, rail car 
        owners do not have the ability to charge fees when the 
        railroads are slow to deliver or pick up cars. Congress should 
        recognize that both shippers and railroads have a 
        responsibility to keep rail cars moving and allow shippers who 
        own or lease their own rail cars to assess a fee on railroads 
        when railroads delay moving rail cars efficiently.

    Congress passed the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022 to address 
the negative impacts of consolidation in the shipping industry and to 
alleviate supply chain issues in ocean freight shipping. This 
bipartisan action was roundly applauded and is helping United States 
consumers and businesses. Port congestion has improved, and ocean 
shipping rates have steadily declined since the passage of this act. We 
urge Congress to replicate this success with freight rail by adopting 
the above recommendations and reauthorizing the STB.
    Thank you again for your attention to this critical issue.
                                             Chet Thompson,
    President and CEO, American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers.

                                 
  Letter of February 15, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. 
     Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and 
    Infrastructure, from Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive 
 Officer, American Trucking Associations, Submitted for the Record by 
                            Hon. Sam Graves
                                                 February 15, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, United States House of 
        Representatives, 2164 Rayburn House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, United States House of 
        Representatives, 2165 Rayburn House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    On behalf of the American Trucking Associations (ATA), I would like 
to thank you for the opportunity to testify before the House 
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee at the hearing titled, 
``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain 
Challenges.'' During the hearing, Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) 
submitted a letter for the record on behalf of the Advocates for 
Highway & Auto Safety (AHAS) that disparages the trucking industry and 
casts doubt upon the industry's commitment to highway safety. 
Interestingly, although the letter was written by an organization that 
claims to prioritize and champion the safety of our nation's roadways, 
the letter fails to mention one of the leading causes of highway 
fatalities--impaired driving--and instead regurgitates a litany of 
misrepresentations about the trucking industry's safety record. In 
light of the shortcomings of the letter submitted for the record, and 
as a testament to ATA's commitment to achieving zero highway 
fatalities, I will correct the inaccuracies in the letter, as well as 
provide recommendations for how this Committee can take steps to 
protect the safe and efficient movement of our nation's goods.
          The Trucking Industry's Investment in Highway Safety
    To paint the trucking industry as an industry that is unsafe and 
willing to cut corners at all costs is both misleading and patently 
false. Safety is, and always will be, the foundation of the trucking 
industry, shaping our core values and decision making. We are so 
confident in these efforts that ATA is currently undertaking a ``safety 
investment study'' with our members to highlight the investments the 
industry is making annually. The last version of this study, which was 
conducted nearly 7 years ago, found that the industry invests nearly 
$9.5 billion annually in safety initiatives, including onboard 
technologies such as electronic logging devices, collision avoidance 
systems, and brake-activated pulsating warning lamps. Our investments 
also included driver safety training, driver safety incentive pay, and 
mechanisms to ensure compliance with safety regulations. While 
misinformed individuals claim that the trucking industry spends this 
money because it is required to do so by law, the simple fact is that 
many of these investments go above and beyond the requirements 
established in state and federal regulations. These investments also go 
towards addressing issues of highway safety that are not necessarily 
specific to trucking. Unlike some so-called safety organizations, the 
trucking industry does not sit idly by and say, ``It's not our 
problem'' and point the finger elsewhere. We choose to work 
collaboratively with all stakeholders--whether we agree or not--to 
advance our common goal of improving highway safety. This is evidenced 
by our recent commitment to the U.S. Department of Transportation's 
(USDOT) newly established National Roadway Safety Strategy (NRSS). ATA 
was one of 49 ``first movers'' that committed to specific actions to 
address highway safety.\1\ These actions will not only focus on 
trucking, but on all highway users.
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             Impaired Driving and Need for Improved Testing
    It is baffling that the topic of impaired driving was not included 
in the AHAS letter. This was especially surprising considering the 
organization claims to be dedicated to identifying drug use in the 
trucking industry. ATA is happy to fill this glaring information void 
and help move the needle on this critical issue because we prioritize 
action to advance highway safety.
    ATA is troubled by the correlation between marijuana legalization 
efforts at the State level and the increase in the number of positive 
marijuana tests reported to USDOT's Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. The 
impacts of marijuana legalization affect all highway users, and I want 
to note for the record that ATA has pleaded loudly for better 
controlled substance testing methods within our own industry. ATA 
strongly supports the use of hair testing as an independent, 
alternative drug testing method for commercial motor carriers to meet 
federal drug testing requirements. Private industry and governments 
worldwide have embraced hair testing due to its efficacy as a critical 
safety tool, but the U.S. trucking industry remains limited in its 
ability to fully utilize this proven drug testing method because it 
does not meet federal requirements. Hair testing is a proven and 
effective method for detecting illegal drug use. Federal acceptance of 
hair testing as an independent, alternative testing method would allow 
employers to use this testing method to identify a greater number of 
safety-sensitive employees who violate federal drug testing regulations 
and keep these unsafe drivers off the road. Critically, federal 
adoption of hair testing would allow motor carriers to report positive 
hair test results to USDOT's Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. Closing 
this glaring loophole will create a safer, drug-free workforce and 
prevent drivers with unresolved drug violations from driving alongside 
the motoring public. Despite the absence of any meaningful advocacy 
from so-called safety groups to address the rise in impaired driving, 
ATA remains steadfast in its support of hair testing as a way to curb 
this dangerous trend.
         Truck Driver Shortage and Younger Professional Drivers
    Denying the existence of the driver shortage is absurd. The 
trucking industry has been dealing with a pervasive driver shortage for 
years, and if conclusive data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics 
(BLS) is not convincing enough, one can simply drive down the highway 
and witness the ample evidence in the form of ``CDL Drivers Needed'' 
signs. The characterization of the shortage as a driver turnover issue 
demonstrates an alarming ignorance of the driver labor force. Safe, 
drug free drivers can leave a job for any reason at any time and easily 
get another driver job because the demand for such qualified drivers is 
so high. If a driver wants to go to another motor carrier for better 
pay, more time at home, or different routes, he or she can do so 
easily. In fact, the vast majority of turnover is churn in the 
industry, not drivers leaving the industry. It is the ultimate worker 
empowerment.
    The AHAS letter that Delegate Holmes Norton submitted for the 
hearing record points to an analysis by the BLS that found ``the labor 
market for truck drivers works about as well as the labor market for 
other blue-collar occupations'' and ``a deeper look [at the truck 
industry labor market] does not find evidence of a secular shortage.'' 
In the spirit of transparency, it is important to note that the 
analysis was not conducted by or for the BLS. The BLS Director made a 
point to clarify this fact explicitly. Additionally, the analysis has 
been debunked on multiple fronts. For example, the authors overlook 
barriers to entry that are unique to truck drivers, such as an age 
requirement to obtain a commercial driver's license (CDL) and strict 
drug testing in the industry. Indeed, this is a labor quality issue 
that the authors didn't mention or account for, and they incorrectly 
assume all drivers (and would-be drivers) can enter and exit the 
industry as they please. We in the industry know that is untrue. Motor 
carriers frequently state that they get many applicants for driving 
jobs, but due to a host of reasons, like past convictions, driving 
records, age requirements, the inability to pass a drug test, and other 
issues, they cannot hire the vast majority of applicants.
    Furthermore, the authors of the analysis failed to control for 
other factors impacting occupational changes, such as time away from 
home. This is particularly true in the over-the-road for-hire truckload 
segment, which is where the driver shortage is most acute. Most other 
blue-collar jobs do not require workers to go on the road for weeks at 
a time before returning home. For these and other reasons, the BLS 
analysis referenced in the letter should be significantly discounted by 
the Committee, or at the very least scrutinized for its obfuscation of 
fact.\2\
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bureau-labor-statistics-driver-shortage-article.
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    Finally, the driver shortage is not unique to the United States. 
According to the International Road Transport Union (IRU) in Geneva, 
Switzerland, many countries are similarly challenged by persistent 
driver shortages. For example, in September 2022, France had 23,548 
unfilled truck driver jobs, and Germany had another 20,113 vacancies. 
Both Canada and Mexico have a driver shortage as well.\3\ Furthermore, 
industry and governments in Europe are looking to lower the driver age 
requirement to help alleviate the shortage.\4\
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shortages-2022-year-review.
    \4\ https://www.iru.org/news-resources/newsroom/tackle-driver-
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    Members of this Committee frequently ask what can be done to 
address the driver shortage in the U.S. While there is no silver bullet 
solution to address this multifaceted problem, ATA believes that 
allowing younger, qualified individuals to operate a CMV in interstate 
commerce is the best and most consequential action that Congress can 
take right now. Accordingly, ATA continues to pursue legislative and 
regulatory efforts to allow well-trained drivers under the age of 21 to 
operate a CMV in interstate commerce. While anti-truck groups continue 
to mischaracterize ``teen truckers'' as a threat to highway safety, the 
flippant mischaracterization of younger driver belies the facts: 18, 
19, and 20 year olds with requisite skills and credentials are already 
allowed to drive commercial trucks and buses within state lines in 49 
states and the District of Columbia. As part of President Biden's 
historic Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), the USDOT 
established the Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program which will 
allow an individual between the ages of 18 and 21 to operate a CMV in 
interstate commerce under strict training benchmarks and performance 
requirements.\5\ One submission to the hearing record refers to this 
program as ``basically a science experiment,'' but yet again, the 
snarky rhetoric ignores the simple fact that 18-, 19-, and 20-year-olds 
can already operate a CMV on our roadways today.
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    Perhaps the most provocative and baseless claim argued in the AHAS 
letter and parroted by so-called safety organizations is the purported 
fatal accident involvement rates of CMV drivers under 19 and CMV 
drivers aged 19 and 20. These claims appear to have been cherry-picked 
from a single, non-governmental study \6\ published 32 years ago in 
1991. Curiously, the author of the study provided a caveat to his 
findings, warning that his estimates of accident rates were informed by 
dividing accident data from 1980-1984 (which was obtained, in part, by 
a telephone survey) by an admittedly incomplete, non-matching batch of 
travel statistics from 1986 (which was itself of insufficient sample 
size and also obtained via a survey).
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    \6\ Campbell, Kenneth L. The University of Michigan, Transportation 
Research Institute, Fatal Accident Involvement Rates By Driver Age For 
Large Trucks, September 1991, https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/
handle/2027.42/29197/0000251.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y.
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    The Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program is not about turning 
over the keys of the truck to any ``teen driver.'' Rather, it's about 
providing qualified men and women with demonstrated aptitude the 
opportunity to master interstate CMV driving through a rigorous 
apprenticeship program. The apprenticeship program would require 
apprentices to complete a minimum of 400 hours of training under the 
supervision of an experienced professional driver and achieve 11 
performance benchmarks--all on trucks equipped with state-of-the-art, 
National Transportation Safety Board-recommended vehicle safety 
technologies.
                         Truck Size and Weight
    The AHAS letter promotes misinformation about proposals to increase 
the size and weight of commercial vehicles. We often hear claims that 
introducing double 33-foot trailer trucks, known as ``Twin 33s,'' would 
require an estimated one-time cost of $1.1 billion to strengthen and/or 
replace 2,478 bridges. These figures should be approached with 
skepticism because USDOT itself acknowledged severe data limitations 
that prevented it from conducting a more robust analysis. One such 
deficiency is USDOT's analysis of the impact of twin 33s on pavement 
and bridges. USDOT's conclusions stem from an erroneous assumption that 
the companies that operate twin trailer trucks (i.e. less-than-
truckload carriers) also have extensive single-trailer truck 
operations, and that nearly all of their single-trailer shipments would 
shift to twin 33, trailers. We estimate that USDOT overstated these 
carriers' single trailer miles by approximately 1,400%. Additionally, 
we estimate that total miles traveled by less-than-truckload (LTL) 
carriers are overstated by nearly 400%. These errors inaccurately 
increased total gross weight for LTL traffic, which resulted in 
inaccurate estimates for additional bridge costs.
    Likewise, the safety impacts of larger trucks continue to be 
misconstrued and overinflated. While some contend that double trailer 
trucks have an 11 percent higher fatal crash rate than single trailer 
trucks and point to a USDOT study to support their claim, the reality 
is that the USDOT study actually found that multi-trailer trucks had a 
three percent lower crash rate than single trailer trucks. The only way 
that USDOT could reasonably produce a theoretical assumption that 
multi-trailer crash rates might be higher than single-trailer rates is 
by assuming that multi-trailer trucks would operate more frequently on 
lower-order roads than they actually do. Similarly, claims that 
overweight trucks pose a heightened safety risk are simply false. The 
favored argument against heavier trucks is that legally overweight 
trucks have longer stopping distances and are therefore more likely to 
be involved in a crash. This is only true if the weight exceeds the 
vehicle manufacturer's rating. Adding axles or upgrading brakes would 
mitigate this concern and prevent heavier trucks from exceeding federal 
stopping distance standards. There is no reason to believe that a 
legally overweight truck has more overweight violations than standard 
trucks. If legally overweight trucks are so unsafe, why do 41 States 
allow maximum gross vehicle weights exceeding 86,000 pounds? Finally, 
drivers of longer trucks are required by law to undergo supplemental 
training and obtain license endorsements to ensure that these vehicles 
are operated responsibly and safely. There is no evidence to suggest 
that longer vehicles have a higher crash rate than more common trucks.
                      Automated Vehicle Deployment
    The AHAS letter fails to adequately acknowledge that highly 
automated vehicles have the opportunity to increase highway safety. The 
USDOT has been reviewing their regulations to better understand and 
identify barriers to the safe deployment of automated vehicles. The 
Department's efforts have focused on where regulatory language assumes 
a human driver might be present. The DOT's focus is to broaden language 
so that a highly automated commercial motor vehicle (CMV) without a 
driver could be operated within the same set of requirements as human 
driven CMV. Additionally, FMCSA has released a Supplemental Advanced 
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (SANPRM) entitled: Safe Integration of 
Automated Driving Systems (ADS)-Equipped Commercial Motor Vehicles 
(CMVs).\7\ This SANPRM looks to gather information from industry on 
what additional considerations need to be made for a highly automated 
CMV in order to operate them safely on the nation's roadways. In short, 
the DOT is taking a prudent approach to both adapting existing 
regulations and exploring additional considerations to ensure highly 
automated CMVs are held to an equal or higher standard as human-driven 
CMVs.
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    While deployment is still in early stages, the DOT has already 
taken steps to monitor the complex landscape of commercial automated 
vehicles. The Standing General Order (SGO) issued by the National 
Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has given the DOT broad 
visibility into on-road incidents and a foundation for more focused 
efforts in the future. The DOT is also exploring the broader impacts of 
automation deployment and how ensure system-level safety of other road 
users sharing the road with automation. These are challenging topics 
that will require a collaborative approach with industry. Developers of 
highly automated CMV have consistently been working with industry, law 
enforcement, and the DOT to develop standards and best practices that 
would facilitate safe operation through inspection, wireless vehicle 
communication, visual signaling, and many other topics. The DOT and 
industry will continue to learn as technology matures and deployments 
expand, but the DOT's collaborative approach will ensure that highly 
automated CMV are operating in a safe manner.
                      Hours of Service and Fatigue
    Contrary to insinuations in the AHAS letter, ATA is unwavering in 
its support of the use of Electronic Logging Devices (ELDs) and 
recognizes them as an effective tool in combatting driver fatigue. ATA 
members have long used ELDs, with many carriers installing this 
critical safety technology long before the Congressional mandate went 
into effect in December 2017. Accordingly, we whole-heartedly support 
the industry-wide adoption of ELDs and oppose efforts to further exempt 
their use.
    While ELDs play a critical role in ensuring the accuracy of a 
driver's Hours of Service (HOS), we continue to see debate about the 
merits of the underlying HOS rules. ATA supported FMCSA's proposal to 
add flexibilities to the HOS rules in 2018, and we supported FMCAS's 
final rulemaking in June of 2020.\8\ This final rule did not increase 
the time a driver could drive or be on duty, yet opposition groups 
immediately filed petitions for reconsideration to the rulemaking, 
which were ultimately denied by the Agency.\9\ Despite this outcome, 
the same groups then proceeded to file a lawsuit against the Agency, 
claiming the final rule was ``arbitrary and capricious for failing to 
grapple with the safety and driver health consequences of changes to 
recordkeeping rules for short-haul commercial vehicle drivers and break 
requirements for long-haul drivers.'' Despite their recycled claims, 
the United States Court of Appeals denied the petition, stating ``the 
modification to the hours-of-service rules were sufficiently explained 
and grounded in the administrative record.'' \10\
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    \9\ https://www.regulations.gov/document/FMCSA-2018-0248-8268.
    \10\ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22125483-advocates-
for-highway-and-auto-safety-et-al-vs-fmcsa-
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    ATA appreciates the opportunity to address and correct the 
inaccuracies and misrepresentations included in the AHAS letter that 
was submitted for the hearing record. Moreover, we appreciate the 
efforts of Members of this Committee to advance highway safety. ATA and 
the trucking industry remain unwavering in our commitment to improving 
the safety of our nation's roads and bridges, and working towards the 
ultimate goal of zero highway fatalities We look forward to our 
continued work with your Committee, Congress, and the Administration.
    Thank you for your leadership on these critical issues.
        Sincerely,
                                               Chris Spear,
                 President and CEO, American Trucking Associations.

                                 
Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
  from Kristen Swearingen, Vice President, Legislative and Political 
Affairs, Associated Builders and Contractors, Submitted for the Record 
                           by Hon. Sam Graves
                                                  February 1, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
U.S. House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
U.S. House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    On behalf of Associated Builders and Contractors, a national 
construction industry trade association with 68 chapters representing 
more than 22,000 members, I write to comment on the U.S. House 
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure's hearing titled ``The 
State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges.''
    ABC urges the committee to deliver relief for construction 
businesses faced with complex supply chain and labor market challenges, 
and ensure that the more than 88% of America's construction workers who 
choose not to belong to a labor union are provided the opportunity to 
participate in critical construction projects funded and authorized by 
the federal government.
   Snapshot of the Construction Industry Supply Chain & Input Prices:
    According to ABC analysis of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' 
Producer Price Index data, while construction input prices fell 2.7% in 
December 2022 compared to the previous month, overall construction 
input prices are 7.9% higher than a year ago and have increased by 
36.1% since February 2020.
    Construction has seen welcome declines in virtually all non-energy 
related construction input commodities, with crude petroleum prices 
falling sharply by 14.9%. However, with natural gas prices surging 
45.3% in December and more than 315% since February 2020, costs are 
still high across the board for contractors.

                  Producer Price Index, December 2022
[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]

                Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Contractors are also currently maintaining their longest backlog 
since 2019. According to ABC's Construction Backlog Indicator, backlog 
remains high thanks in part to an increase in infrastructure work--
jumping from 6.7 months to 10.0 months. However, it is clear that small 
construction businesses continue to not only have the lowest average 
backlog (7.9 months), but that their amount of work contracted to 
perform but have not yet completed has fallen while the expected work 
grew for all of the other larger categories.
    Contractors enter the new year hopeful, and remain focused on 
growth, with expectations for rising sales and staffing levels over the 
next half year. ABC's Construction Confidence Index's reading for 
expected profit margins and sales increased in December, while the 
reading for staffing levels moved lower. All three readings remain 
above the threshold of 50, indicating expectations of growth over the 
next six months.
    However, evidence suggests that financing commercial real estate 
projects faces growing difficulty, due in part to predictions of a 
looming recession. The general increase in the cost of capital has also 
jeopardized many projects, with certain contractors noticing an 
increase in postponements.
    For Congress, this uncertain moment is an opportunity to ensure 
that our nation's contractors and construction workers are not 
contending with overly burdensome regulations s along with rising 
material costs, skilled labor shortages and supply chain disruptions.
          Snapshot of the Construction Industry Labor Market:
    Construction is poised to power America's recovery and economic 
engine, as the industry offers competitive wages and many opportunities 
to both begin and advance. However, despite adding 28,000 jobs on net 
in December, according to ABC's analysis of data released by the U.S. 
Bureau of Labor Statistics, severe labor market conditions persist.
    On a year-over-year basis, industry employment has risen by 231,000 
jobs or 3.1%. Nonresidential construction employment increased by 
17,900 positions on net, with growth in all three subcategories. 
Nonresidential specialty trade contractors added 10,200 net new jobs, 
while nonresidential building and heavy and civil engineering added 
5,800 and 1,900 jobs, respectively. However, the construction 
unemployment rate rose to 4.4% in December while unemployment across 
all industries declined from 3.6% in November to 3.5% last month.
    To help meet the demand for a skilled construction workforce, ABC 
member contractors use flexible, competency-based and market-driven 
education methodologies to build a construction workforce that is safe, 
skilled and productive. This all-of-the-above approach to workforce 
development has produced a network of ABC chapters and affiliates 
across the country that offer more than 800 apprenticeship, craft, 
safety and management education programs--including more than 300 
government-registered apprenticeship programs across 20 different 
occupations--to develop the people who build America.
    In the coming years, the federal government will pump hundreds of 
billions in new spending into our nation's most critical 
infrastructure, However, ABC remains concerned with provisions in 
recent legislation and regulations from the Biden administration that 
will take away worker freedom, making it harder to fill potential jobs 
and fully take advantage of much-needed investments in critical 
infrastructure across the country. ABC urges the committee to consider 
ways in which they can promote an all-of-the-above workforce 
development strategy--and not limit the benefits of federal legislation 
from reaching the vast majority of construction workers due to their 
labor affiliation.
                        Project Labor Agreements
    ABC vehemently opposes several discriminatory policies the Biden 
administration is pursuing through executive orders, the regulatory 
process and the implementation of recently passed legislation, which 
will prevent many opportunities for the entire construction industry, 
particularly small businesses, to participate in infrastructure 
projects funded by this legislation.
    Among these key concerns are President Biden's Executive Order 
14063 and proposed rule implementing government-mandated project labor 
agreements on federal construction contracts of $35 million or more, 
which will effectively prevent the vast majority of contractors from 
having a fair chance at competing on federal construction contracts. 
ABC estimates this proposal, once finalized, could affect 120 federal 
contracts valued at $10 billion annually, which is roughly 40% of the 
value of federal construction put in place in 2021.
    PLA mandates discourage the 88.3% of the private construction 
workforce that have already made the choice not to belong to a union 
and experienced nonunion contractors from competing to win taxpayer-
funded contracts to rebuild their communities. By mandating PLAs, this 
EO will significantly exacerbate the ongoing construction workforce 
shortage, limit potential infrastructure investment by raising costs by 
12 to 20% per project and discriminate against nearly the nearly nine 
out of 10 construction workers who choose not to join a union.
    For the rare nonunion construction workers permitted to work on a 
PLA project, provisions in PLAs result in the confiscation of 34% of a 
nonunion construction worker's compensation package unless they join a 
union and become vested in union plans.
    ABC members are also concerned with language contained in federal 
agency grant opportunities that encourages state and local government 
grant applicants, to support PLA requirements in their application for 
federal grant funds. ABC has identified almost $100 billion in federal 
grant programs that include the promotion of PLA mandates or union-only 
preference language in federal agency grant applications. This PLA 
``encouragement'' language could have a chilling effect on otherwise 
qualified contractors bidding on projects in their communities, 
limiting competition and increasing costs.
    ABC believes that taxpayer-funded construction contracts should be 
awarded through fair and open competition--guaranteeing the best value 
for hardworking taxpayers while prohibiting a rigged federal 
procurement process that discriminates against many small construction 
businesses. This is critically important as federal agencies begin to 
implement hundreds of billions in federal dollars for infrastructure 
construction projects authorized through the IIJA and ARP, which 
notably did not have any mention of PLAs, let alone mandate them on 
federal projects.
    Further, ABC urges members of the committee to support the Fair and 
Open Competition Act, which would prevent federal agencies and 
recipients of federal assistance from requiring contractors to sign 
controversial project labor agreements as a condition of winning a 
federal or federally assisted construction contract. This bill would 
ensure that taxpayer-funded construction contracts are awarded through 
fair and open competition--guaranteeing the best value for hardworking 
taxpayers while prohibiting a rigged federal procurement process.
                        Buy America Requirements
    On Nov. 10, the U.S. Department of Transportation announced the 
expiration of a general waiver to Buy America requirements imposed by 
the IIJA. With this expiration, the IIJA's expanded Buy America 
requirements are now in effect for most federally funded infrastructure 
projects. The DOT proposed two narrower waivers that will exempt a 
limited number of projects from these requirements.
    While ABC supports strategies to expand domestic jobs and 
manufacturing to avoid global supply chain disruptions and capture 
economic benefits within America, Buy America policies need to be 
balanced with safeguards against increased costs and/or delays of 
infrastructure projects funded by the federal government and ultimately 
taxpayers. ABC commented on the proposed waivers and urges the 
committee to ensure that the DOT carefully consider our recommendations 
to ensure Buy America requirements can be implemented with minimal 
disruptions to these critical infrastructure projects.
 Federal Contractor Greenhouse Gas Disclosure & Reduction Requirements
    On Nov. 14, the Federal Acquisition Regulatory Council issued a 
proposed rule to amend the Federal Acquisition Regulation to require 
certain federal contractors to disclose their greenhouse gas emissions 
and set GHG emission reduction targets. Under the proposed rule, 
federal contractors who qualify as significant contractors, (those 
receiving between $7.5 million and $50 million in federal contracting 
obligations in the prior fiscal year) would be required to inventory 
their annual GHG emissions and disclose this information to the federal 
government.
    ABC understands the need for assessment of greenhouse gas emissions 
by federal contractors but has concerns that the proposed rule will 
unnecessarily increase costs for federal contractors by imposing 
substantial new regulatory burdens. Requiring major contractors to set 
GHG reduction targets or forfeit the ability to win federal contracts 
is a significant and concerning expansion of executive power not 
authorized by Congress and may be subject to legal challenge, further 
creating additional risk and uncertainty for construction federal 
contractors and government stakeholders. Small business federal 
contractors will be especially harmed by the uncertainty and increased 
costs these requirements would impose, leading to decreased small 
business participation in federal contracting, which has already seen a 
60% decline in the number of construction industry small businesses 
awarded a federal contract from 2010 to 2020.
                              Conclusion:
    ABC encourages the committee to promote inclusive, win-win policies 
that welcome all of America's construction industry to compete to 
rebuild our nation's crumbling infrastructure, increase accountability 
and competition and reduce waste and favoritism in the procurement of 
public works projects to better ensure the stewardship of taxpayer 
dollars.
    Ultimately, in order to successfully implement this investment of 
taxpayer funds into high-quality infrastructure at the best price 
possible for Americans, Congress must ensure the door is open to all 
qualified contractors, including those composing more than 8.6 million 
workers (88.3% of the industry), and provide them with a fair chance at 
competing on government funded projects.
    ABC and our members are committed to building taxpayer-funded 
projects with the highest standards of safety and quality. ABC members 
stand ready for the opportunity to build and maintain America's 
infrastructure to the benefit of the communities it serves. ABC 
appreciates the opportunity to comment on the committee's important 
work to improve our nation's infrastructure.
        Sincerely,
                                        Kristen Swearingen,
                 Vice President, Legislative and Political Affairs,
                               Associated Builders and Contractors.

                                 
Statement of the Association of Equipment Manufacturers, Submitted for 
                     the Record by Hon. Sam Graves
    The Association of Equipment Manufacturers appreciates the 
opportunity to submit this statement for the record as the U.S. House 
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure examines supply chain 
challenges and the state of U.S. transportation infrastructure.
    The Association of Equipment Manufacturers (AEM) represents more 
than 1,000-member companies manufacturing equipment and providing 
services for the agriculture, construction, utility, mining, and 
forestry sectors worldwide. Our industry supports approximately 2.8 
million jobs across all 50 states, represents 12 percent of the 
manufacturing sector in America, and contributes $288 billion a year to 
the U.S. economy.
    Safe and reliable infrastructure is dependent on equipment 
manufacturers to connect our nation. While the average person may not 
notice the construction crane in use to repair a bridge, or the paver 
in use to repair or expand a highway, they also may not realize what 
that equipment means to the efficient completion of a new road or 
upgrades to public transit systems.
    Over the last decade, demand for heavy equipment has increased. 
However, the challenges confronting our national supply chains have 
already severely impacted the equipment manufacturing industry's 
ability to respond to this increase in demand for product. Average lead 
times for road construction equipment are projected to increase from 
6.4 months in 2022 to 7.6 months in 2023. Similarly, average lead times 
for aggregate equipment such as crushers are expected to increase to 
6.3 months in 2023, up from 5.6 months in 2022. This is especially 
critical given that many equipment manufacturers are already fully sold 
out for 2023. The current supply chain situation could mean that a 
contractor in need of a new excavator might not be able to bid on a new 
IIJA-supported project.
    The COVID-19 pandemic highlighted numerous issues with global 
supply chains and logistics. The equipment manufacturing industry had 
to adapt and find a way to move forward. Manufacturers improved 
communication lines with suppliers, increased safety stock, and 
expanded their supplier base. This proactive approach helped some 
alleviate supply chain constraints, but the industry still faces 
challenges in the acquisition of specialized parts and components.
    Each piece of equipment utilizes thousands of specialized parts and 
components unique to the functionality of the equipment. Often, there 
are limited suppliers of specialized parts, forcing U.S. manufacturers 
and their global competitors to source their inputs from the same 
suppliers in the international marketplace. In a recent AEM survey of 
179 equipment manufacturing companies, nearly all respondents (98 
percent) continue to face supply chain issues with more than half of 
respondents (58 percent) experiencing continuously worsening supply 
chain conditions. Year to date, equipment manufacturers are seeing an 
average of 12 percent production loss, and are forecasting a slightly 
lower, but still significant production loss of 8.2 percent in 2023.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to express the views of the 
U.S. equipment manufacturing industry on the state of transportation 
infrastructure and supply chain challenges. The effort to upgrade and 
modernize our infrastructure is just beginning. The 2.8 million men and 
women of the equipment manufacturing industry are ready to get to work 
and ensure that this investment ushers in a new era of economic 
prosperity for all Americans. We look forward to working with all 
members of the Committee to advance policies and agreements that 
strengthen American manufacturing and secure our nation's long-term 
prosperity.

                                 
Letter of February 8, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
   from Jeff Farrah, Executive Director, Autonomous Vehicle Industry 
        Association, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves
                                                  February 8, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20510.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20510.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen,
    The Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association (``AVIA'') writes to 
thank you for holding the recent hearing on The State of Transportation 
Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges. AVIA looks forward to 
working with you to increase long term supply chain resiliency by 
encouraging the safe and swift deployment of autonomous vehicles (AVs) 
in the United States.
    By way of background, AVIA is comprised of companies with technical 
expertise and experience in the technology, automobile, trucking and 
transportation network sectors. Bringing together their varied 
backgrounds, these companies formed AVIA to advance the tremendous 
safety, mobility and economic benefits of AVs to consumers in the 
safest and swiftest manner possible. Our members include Aurora, 
Cavnue, Cruise, Embark, Ford, Gatik, Kodiak, Lyft, May Mobility, 
Motional, Navya, Nuro, TuSimple, Uber, Volkswagen Group of America, 
Volvo Cars, Waabi, Waymo and Zoox.
    Currently, companies, ports, and policymakers are working to 
accelerate short-term solutions to improve the supply chain. Few 
proposed solutions have addressed a significant supply chain 
challenge--the long-term truck driver shortage. The American Trucking 
Associations estimated in 2021 that the country is short 80,000 
drivers. Without innovative solutions, this shortage is expected to 
double to 160,000 by 2030. The industry also faces extremely high 
turnover rates. For both new entrants and those considering retirement, 
the burden of long and stressful hours drivers spent away from their 
families outweighs the allure of a decent-paying long-haul job. Truck 
drivers face higher-than-average rates of smoking, high blood pressure, 
and diabetes.
    Autonomous trucks can help make up the driver shortfall and serve 
as partners with drivers in the trucking ecosystem by backfilling the 
need for long-haul drivers while fostering short-haul jobs that 
alleviate the heavy physical and mental toll of long-haul driving. 
Autonomous trucks are not restricted to a human driver schedule, do not 
need to stop, and can unlock new agricultural markets by reducing 
spoilage. Policymakers should understand that truck drivers and 
autonomous trucks can co-exist together, while supporting the entire 
supply chain and U.S. economy.
    Autonomous trucking has also already created thousands of high-
paying jobs--vehicle operators, maintenance workers, technicians, 
engineers and more--and the sector's growth will require more new 
hires. The successful partnership of human-driven and autonomous trucks 
was confirmed by a study from the U.S. Department of Transportation 
projecting that autonomous long-haul trucks will create up to 35,100 
jobs per year across the economy, raise wages for all American workers 
and spur $111 billion in investment across the nation's economy.
    Truck drivers are working hard, but the shortage is simply 
unsustainable. Already frustrated with rising prices and product 
shortages, U.S. consumers cannot afford to rely solely on stopgap, 
short-term measures to reinforce our supply chain in the long term. The 
U.S. needs to move forward on autonomous trucks so goods can keep 
moving.
        Sincerely,
                                               Jeff Farrah,
       Executive Director, Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association.

                                 
Statement of the Corn Refiners Association, Submitted for the Record by 
                            Hon. Sam Graves
    The Corn Refiners Association (CRA) appreciates the opportunity to 
provide the following statement for the record to the House Committee 
on Transportation and Infrastructure for its hearing examining 
transportation infrastructure and supply chain challenges.
    CRA is the national trade association representing the corn 
refining industry of the United States. Corn refiners produce essential 
inputs for the American economy, including food, feed, pharmaceuticals, 
medical devices, personal care products, and a wide assortment of 
industrials ranging from construction adhesives to compostable 
plastics. Corn refiners produce hundreds of products with thousands of 
uses. CRA members process approximately 13% of the United States' corn 
supply, resulting in $9.33 billion in value-added revenue. This 
accounts for 7,200 jobs and impacts an additional 160,000 jobs, with an 
annual economic impact of $47.5 billion. Corn refining is today's 
leading example of value-added agriculture.
    To serve this essential role in our food system and consumer 
products economy, CRA members depend heavily on an efficient, reliable, 
and affordable rail transportation network to transport product.
      Agricultural products contribute nearly 7.4%, or $6.3 
billion, of total rail revenue, with an additional 13%, or $11 billion, 
from the transportation of food and wood products.
      Railroads originate 24% of U.S. grain shipments.
      Corn accounted for 691,000 carloads in 2020--
approximately half of all grain carloads.
      Rail also dominates transport of corn gluten meal and 
corn gluten feed, essential animal feed products produced by corn 
refiners. 70-90% of CGM and CGF are transported by rail.

    While railroad revenue and profits have been strong in recent 
years, rail service has deteriorated to such a degree that our industry 
is struggling to play its essential role in the food and agriculture 
system. The following is a summary of some of the impacts rail service 
failures had on our industry in 2022, and that continue into 2023:
      One corn refiner lost at least $10 million in revenue due 
to delays.
      One CRA member endured losses of over $11 million in lost 
bushels and grind over 2022 because they were unable to ship their 
products.
      On multiple occasions, corn refining plants were forced 
to temporarily cease operation because there were simply no cars 
available to deliver inputs or ship finished product. Our plants are 
complex industrial facilities intended to run 24 hours a day, 361 days 
a year, so these shutdowns and startups came at significant cost.
      Likewise, our members' customers had to shut down or slow 
down temporarily to accommodate the missing inputs.
      In other cases, our members had to buy product from one 
of their competitors to make up the difference.
      Because cycle times were up on average five days, members 
increased their leased car position by an additional 500 cars at a cost 
of at least $6 million over 2022.

    CRA also wishes to highlight the following concerns:
      Issues with switching in the first mile/last mile leaves 
inputs and finished product stranded at serving yards, often for days 
at a time.
      In an effort to fill gaps in rail service, members have 
used trucks where possible, but at substantial additional costs and 
strain on a fractured trucking market.
      Precision scheduled railroading (PSR), far from its 
intended result of increasing efficiency, has created total 
communication breakdowns. Facilities are not told when the daily switch 
will not happen as planned until a customer calls to report that a car 
did not arrive. There are often no responses from railroads to these 
delays.
      Actual and threatened embargoes at customer destinations 
routinely hinder shipping cars.

    Alongside other shipper associations, CRA has participated in 
hearings and ex parte meetings before the Surface Transportation Board 
on proceedings that addressed some of the above. Regulatory relief on 
issues such as reciprocal switching are a key part of the long-term 
solution to increase competition and efficiency.
    However, much more urgent action is needed.
    Railroads must be held publicly accountable for fulfilling their 
duty to provide reliable service. Currently, railroads accept very 
little accountability for the repeated adverse consequences of their 
business decisions on customers. Absent such accountability, there is 
greater incentive for railroads to be responsive to Wall Street than to 
their customers and the overall public interest that is part of their 
common carrier obligation.
    Further, Congress should consider what other tools it has at its 
disposal to increase competition, combat unfair business practices in 
the rail industry, and increase accountability for service failures. 
Specifically, we recommend Congress clarify the common carrier 
obligations, which require railroads to provide service ``upon 
reasonable request.'' A better definition of the common carrier 
obligations would provide clarity on the extent of STB's authority to 
conduct oversight of the market.
    CRA appreciates this opportunity to comment on these urgent issues.

                                 
Statement of Joanne F. Casey, President and CEO, Intermodal Association 
     of North America, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves
    On behalf of the Intermodal Association of North America (IANA), 
thank you Chair Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and Committee Members 
for convening this hearing to discuss our nation's critical supply 
chains. IANA applauds your leadership on this important issue and 
appreciates the opportunity to share our views. As you begin your work 
in the 118th Congress, IANA would be pleased to serve as a resource and 
looks forward to working with you toward our shared goal of enhancing 
intermodal supply chain fluidity, efficiency, and safety.
    As the only transportation trade association that represents the 
combined interests of intermodal freight providers and customers, IANA 
represents more than 1,000 corporate members, including railroads, 
ocean carriers, ports, intermodal truckers and over-the-road highway 
carriers, intermodal marketing and logistic companies, and suppliers to 
the industry. IANA's associate (non-voting) members include shippers 
(defined as the beneficial owners of the freight to be shipped), 
academic institutions, government entities, and non-profit trade 
associations.
    IANA is pleased to offer the industry various technology tools and 
resources through its Information Services. These programs, which are 
designed to facilitate business processes and enable transactions, 
focus on information needs in the areas of environmental initiatives, 
risk management, safety, and security. Regulatory compliance and 
registration tools include the Driver Vehicle Inspection Reporting 
Service, the Global Intermodal Equipment Registry, and the Uniform 
Intermodal Interchange and Facilities Access Agreement. IANA also 
collects and maintains a range of data on the performance of the North 
American intermodal freight network. These databases provide critical 
tools for the effective management of business assets across the 
intermodal supply chain.
    Intermodal freight transportation is the movement of cargo in 
shipping containers or trailers by more than one mode of transport--
ship, rail, and/or truck. Globally, 95 percent of all manufactured 
goods are transported in a container at one point in their journey, 
generating over $51 billion in intermodal revenues annually in the 
North American market.
    Unlike single transportation modes, global and domestic intermodal 
freight supply chains are comprised of separate entities that work in 
concert to complete each intermodal movement. Together, third-party 
logistics providers, trucking companies, railroads, ports, and 
steamship lines provide a cost-effective, reliable, safe, and 
environmentally favorable way to move freight from origin to 
destination. Each link is a vital component of the overall intermodal 
supply chain and must operate seamlessly and efficiently to uphold 
systemwide performance and productivity levels.
    The COVID-19 pandemic spurred rapid and unprecedented demand for 
freight services and supply chain capacity, demonstrating the critical 
importance of intermodal supply chains to transport and distribute 
essential goods. When much of the nation was asked to stay home, the 
intermodal industry continued working to deliver desperately needed 
medical supplies and equipment, food, as well as everyday items 
previously taken for granted. Despite labor and capacity shortages, 
intermodal supply chains remained flexible and quickly adapted to 
accommodate shifting consumer patterns and demands.
    IANA has supported the Biden-Harris Administration's ongoing work 
to address supply chain disruptions and develop holistic, systemwide, 
and industry-based solutions to advance our national goods movement 
network. Among other efforts, IANA has engaged with and served as a 
resource to the White House Supply Chain Disruption Task Force and the 
White House Port Envoy, the Federal Maritime Commission, and the U.S. 
Department of Transportation (USDOT).
    IANA commends this Committee for its contributions to and enactment 
of the 2021 Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL). In addition to the 
significant increase in funding available to freight infrastructure 
needs, we strongly support the BIL's establishment of the Office of 
Multimodal Freight Infrastructure and Policy within USDOT. Given the 
unique nature of intermodal transportation, a dedicated Freight Office 
stands to improve federal coordination and strategically address the 
diverse operational and economic needs of our interconnected intermodal 
freight system. It is IANA's hope that this newly formed office will 
serve an essential role in overseeing national freight system 
investments, guiding multimodal freight policy and planning, 
facilitating information sharing, and maximizing BIL resources. IANA 
and its diverse membership of supply chain participants are eager to 
work with the Freight Office and serve as industry partners.
    Recognizing the broad array of issues the Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure is tasked with examining, IANA looks 
forward to working with the Committee on issues related to the long-
term health of the United States supply chain. In particular, IANA's 
membership is eager to address:
      Supply Chain Data Collection & Standardization: The 
supply chain is a complex network of systems, each with unique 
stakeholders, standards, and requirements. Pandemic-related shipping 
challenges highlighted the supply chain's complexity and opaqueness, 
spurring discussion about the appropriate level of data sharing and 
standardization. Solutions must strike a delicate balance. While some 
level of data sharing and standardization is likely necessary to 
increase supply chain efficiency and visibility, viable solutions must 
recognize that 1) many supply chain stakeholders operate and/or are 
headquartered internationally, meaning consideration should be given to 
global solutions and the most appropriate facilitator(s); 2) some data 
is proprietary and serves as a competitive edge to private companies; 
3) data must be sanitized such that its dissemination does not cause 
safety or security concerns; and 4) the process for collecting and 
disseminating such data must not be overly burdensome.
      Project Permitting: Although the BIL provided for some 
changes to the permitting process, IANA continues to advocate for the 
need to address inefficiencies and delays in the federal project 
approval process while upholding environmental protections. Existing 
permitting regulations can cause significant delays and associated cost 
increases in the construction of transportation projects, which hinder 
improvements that improve system fluidity. Reforms are needed to 
increase transparency and predictability by streamlining reviews and 
facilitating more effective coordination between federal agencies, 
particularly for large, intermodal projects that traditionally require 
the approval of multiple agencies or USDOT modal administrations.
      Intermodal Infrastructure Funding: Freight infrastructure 
investment contributes to economic growth and global competitiveness as 
well as job creation and improved quality of life. IANA strongly 
supports the funding increases provided by the BIL for various new and 
existing grant and formula programs with intermodal freight project 
eligibility. We recommend the Committee continue to support programs 
that not only address funding for and improvements to the nation's 
roadway, rail and bridge infrastructure system, but also allow for 
significant investment in non-highway intermodal projects as well as 
intermodal connectors, which are the links that facilitate the transfer 
of freight between modes. Currently, non-highway/ intermodal freight 
projects are eligible for a maximum of 30 percent of available funding 
annually under the Infrastructure for Rebuilding America (INFRA) grant 
program and National Highway Freight (freight formula) Program. Such a 
cap limits the ability to fund critical intermodal projects at the 
levels that are needed.
      Truck Driver Shortage: According to data produced in 2022 
by the American Trucking Associations (ATA), the trucking industry is 
shy nearly 80,000 drivers relative to demand. The number is expected to 
rise as more drivers retire from the field and recruitment and 
retention fall short. Presently, drivers must be at least 21 years old 
to operate a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) in interstate commerce. 
This age barrier serves as a deterrent for 18- to 21-year-olds who are 
interested in entering the workforce. Frequently these individuals 
undergo training and apprenticeship in other fields before their age 
qualifies them to operate a CMV in interstate commerce. IANA supports 
federal efforts that would allow for drivers between the ages of 18 and 
21 to enter the interstate workforce, while maintaining safety 
objectives.
      Worker Classification: Motor carriers are crucial 
participants in the nation's intermodal network, particularly under the 
current conditions of workforce shortages, as evidenced in the previous 
comment re: driver issues. For over 35 years, the prevailing business 
model for motor carriers supporting intermodal freight movements by 
water and rail has involved the use of independent contractors as 
drivers. With an estimated 80 percent of intermodal truck drivers 
classified as independent contractors--many of which are small, 
minority-owned businesses--this business model is indispensable to the 
intermodal transportation and drayage industry. By offering operational 
and financial flexibility to intermodal motor carriers, this model 
allows drivers to adapt and respond to natural volatility in the 
intermodal transportation market. Each owner-operator makes a conscious 
decision to remain an independent contractor, but also has the freedom 
to choose to seek full-time employment in the trucking industry at any 
time. IANA strongly opposes any efforts to limit or eliminate owner-
operators as independent contractor drivers for the intermodal 
industry. Such changes are currently under consideration by the 
Department of Labor (DOL) as outlined in its October 2022 Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking. Several states have also sought to implement 
restrictive worker classification laws. In California, the issue has 
been the subject of an ongoing legal challenge in California Trucking 
Association v. Bonta. IANA has voiced its concerns to the DOL and other 
relevant entities, including states with similar initiatives as the 
DOL. We raise this issue in an effort to increase awareness of its 
potential adverse impacts to the health of the intermodal industry and 
its customers.
      Train Crew Size: Safety on our nation's railroads is, and 
always will be, a priority for the intermodal transportation industry. 
Current regulations, which do not mandate minimum crew size 
requirements or regulate the number of crew members located in the cab, 
have served the railroad industry well for many years. Without such 
burdensome requirements, railroads have upheld stringent safety 
standards and maintained strong safety records. Despite lengthy 
evaluations by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) and other 
regulators, some of which have spanned over 15 years, there remains a 
lack of data or safety justification to support the FRA's July 2022 
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, which would impose a minimum two-person 
crew mandate for most trains. In fact, many railroads--including short 
line, passenger, and most European railroads--already safely operate 
with a one-person crew in the cab. Crew size mandates would impose new 
burdens on the railroad industry, impacting its ability to make 
critical investments in safety technologies as well as other 
innovations to remain competitive and address customer needs. IANA has 
shared these concerns with the FRA and would appreciate Congress' 
support and oversight as the proposal moves forward.

    Thank you for your time and your leadership in support of 
intermodal goods movement and its related issues. IANA looks forward to 
working with you and would welcome the opportunity to further engage 
with your offices. If you or your staff have any questions, please do 
not hesitate to contact me.

                                 
 Letter of February 15, 2023, and ``Competing To Win'' Report, to Hon. 
 Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee 
 on Transportation and Infrastructure, from Ben Siegrist, Director of 
   Infrastructure, Innovation, and Human Resources Policy, National 
  Association of Manufacturers, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam 
                                 Graves
                                                 February 15, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen,
    Congratulations on the recent and well-deserved honor of your 
selection to lead the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee 
for the 118th Congress. Manufacturers are proud to support the T&I 
Committee's mission as a sector that depends on safe personal and 
commercial travel, advanced technology and transportation equipment as 
well as strong and resilient infrastructure to support those systems.
    The National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) is the largest 
manufacturing association in the United States, representing small and 
large manufacturers in every industrial sector and in all 50 states. 
Manufacturing employs nearly 13 million Americans, contributes $2.81 
trillion to the U.S. economy annually, pays workers over 18% more than 
the average for all businesses and has one of the largest sectoral 
multipliers in the economy. Taken alone, manufacturing in the United 
States would be the eighth-largest economy in the world.
    As the committee embarks on the work outlined during your recent 
hearing titled The State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply 
Chain Challenges, manufacturers look forward to working with you, your 
staff and all members of the committee to achieve sensible policies 
that will ensure American transportation networks are safe and secure 
and that the American economy remains competitive in a global 
marketplace.
    In recent years, the NAM has worked closely with committee members 
to tackle issues of great national significance, from averting a 
potentially devastating strike on our nation's freight rail networks to 
supporting passage of legislation authorizing generational investment 
into America's infrastructure network. Additionally, this committee was 
instrumental in advancing legislation that provided much-needed relief 
to manufacturers reliant upon ocean shipping services at American 
ports.
    More broadly, the NAM has produced a blueprint of the most critical 
actions policymakers can take that will strengthen American economic 
interests while focusing on improvements to global supply chains and 
domestic infrastructure: Competing to Win, which is attached to this 
submission.\1\ The challenges faced by manufacturers are complex, 
varied and will require a concerted effort that is strategic and 
intentional to advance national interests. The range of actions the NAM 
recommends that Congress take are designed to achieve critical economic 
and strategic goals. The NAM respectfully encourages you to consider 
the following items, among others in Competing to Win, in order to 
immediately support manufacturers' competitiveness and improve 
operational efficiencies across national industries and supply chains.
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                  Reform the federal permitting system
    Too often, manufacturers seeking to make significant investments in 
the United States face years-long delays in obtaining the permits 
needed to break ground on a project. Speeding the permitting process 
and establishing permit certainty will support industrial growth. 
Efforts to expand domestic energy production, upgrade our nation's 
infrastructure, increase critical mineral extraction and processing and 
expand facilities are all dependent upon the success of advancing 
permitting reform. To that end, ensuring the Administration is 
following congressional intent regarding One Federal Decision from the 
bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) is key, as 
that mandate establishes strict permit review timelines and eliminates 
duplicitous efforts across various federal agencies. Moreover, key 
permitting authorities are rife with ambiguity and inconsistent 
terminology and need Congressional intervention in order to facilitate 
manufacturing expansion while achieving environmental stewardship.
                    Grow the manufacturing workforce
    Manufacturers in the transportation sector and across all 
industries are facing a workforce crisis. Over the next decade, 4 
million manufacturing jobs will likely be needed, and 2.1 million are 
expected to go unfilled because there are not enough potential workers 
with the skills needed in today's modern manufacturing sector. The 
effects of this shortfall will be felt across all industries and in all 
modes of transportation from trucking to rail to aviation and maritime 
shipping. According to a recent report by the NAM's workforce and 
education partner, the Manufacturing Institute, and Deloitte, the U.S. 
economy will be $1 trillion smaller in 2030 if those positions are not 
filled.\2\
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    In order to fully address this challenge, the perception of 
manufacturing and industrial careers must be changed and there must be 
an effort to broaden recruitment pipelines to engage underrepresented 
populations and--with only 58 people actively looking for work for 
every 100 job openings--the potential workforce must grow. Reforming 
our nation's broken immigration system is a critical step to address 
some workforce needs. Manufacturers support securing our borders and 
reforming the immigration system to reflect the needs of the modern 
workforce, including addressing the existing backlog of immigration 
cases, providing certainty for individuals who are already in this 
country and updating our nation's approach to asylum seekers and 
refugees.
                     Support investment in America
    Manufacturing is a capital-intensive industry. Facilities, 
equipment and machinery have long productive lives but require 
significant up-front capital investments. Reducing barriers to these 
investments will help grow the manufacturing base. In this regard, 
manufacturers urge lawmakers to take two actions.
    First, funds that have been authorized to support the manufacturing 
economy should be disbursed quickly and equitably. Portions of the 
CHIPS and Science Act, the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and 
the Inflation Reduction Act authorize investments in key parts of the 
transportation and manufacturing economy. Congress should work with the 
Administration to ensure that these funds reach manufacturers 
expeditiously and abide by the strictures of their legislative 
direction. NAM members proudly supported legislative efforts to proffer 
historic and much-needed investment into the nation's infrastructure 
systems to enhance economic competitiveness and improve business 
operations. As this committee reviews federal outlays and the enactment 
of laws authorized to upgrade and improve critical infrastructure, the 
NAM looks forward to providing industry perspectives on the progress of 
funding expenditures and related programs.
    Second, lawmakers must ensure that the tax code supports private 
investment in manufacturing activities. Specifically, making the 2017 
Tax Cuts and Jobs Act permanent would support small businesses, and 
reversing harmful changes to the tax treatment of research expenses, 
business loans and equipment purchases would benefit all manufacturers 
in America.

                                * * * *

    As described during your recent hearing, the Transportation and 
Infrastructure Committee has laid out a vigorous agenda for the 118th 
Congress. As you seek to address issues affecting our national shipping 
supply chain, various modes of transportation and goods movement, 
oversight of federal programs authorized to improve infrastructure 
networks and continued regulatory review to keep American industries 
competitive, the NAM looks forward to continued engagement and 
providing ample industry input.
    Thank you again for your continued focus on these important issues 
and working to enhance manufacturers' ability to compete.
        Respectfully,
                                              Ben Siegrist,
     Director, Infrastructure, Innovation & Human Resources Policy,
                             National Association of Manufacturers.
                               attachment
 Report, ``Competing To Win,'' National Association of Manufacturers, 
                             September 2022
    The 36-page report is retained in committee files and is available 
online at https://documents.nam.org/COMM/Competing_to_Win_2022.pdf.

                                 
Statement of Michael C. Seyfert, President and Chief Executive Officer, 
 National Grain and Feed Association, Submitted for the Record by Hon. 
                               Sam Graves
    NGFA commends Chairmen Graves and Ranking Member Larsen for holding 
this hearing to learn about the state of transportation infrastructure 
and supply chain challenges.
    The NGFA consists of more than 1,000 grain, feed, processing, 
exporting and other grain-related companies and cooperatives operating 
more than 8,000 facilities. Our membership includes grain elevators; 
feed and feed ingredient manufacturers; biofuels companies; grain and 
oilseed processors and millers; exporters; livestock and poultry 
integrators; transportation companies and associated firms that provide 
goods and services to the nation's grain, oilseed, feed, and processing 
industry.
    Efficient, reliable truck, waterborne and rail transportation are 
important to the grain and feed industry. For trucking, the challenge 
is simple. Additional freight capacity is needed; and the two largest 
constraints are available drivers and federal truck weight limits. NGFA 
supports efforts to add truck drivers and urges Congress to add 
capacity and efficiency by increasing truck weights limits.
    For waterborne commerce, oversight of the Water Resources 
Development Act (WRDA) investments to modernize locks and dams on the 
inland waterways is critical to keep U.S. agriculture competitive in 
the global market. The Mississippi River and Columbia-Snake River 
Systems can impact trade because barges move about half of all grains 
to export grain elevators, including 48 percent of corn, 62 percent of 
soybeans and 47 percent of wheat. Critical farm inputs like fertilizer, 
feed, and fuel are transported via the inland waterways systems.
    Importantly, navigational access must be maintained to the Lower 
Snake River Dams. The Columbia-Snake River System is the third-largest 
grain export corridor in the world, transporting nearly 30 percent of 
U.S. grain and oilseed exports through a sophisticated navigation 
system to deliver high value farm products safely and efficiently to 
West Coast ports and consumers worldwide. Barging is the most fuel-
efficient way to ship goods and failure to maintain access to this 
system would dramatically increase carbon emissions.
    Nearly 15 percent of rail volume is agricultural products and the 
agricultural industry desires to ship more products by rail, but 
inconsistent rail service has contributed to truck freight capturing 
most of the growth in agricultural and other freight over the last 40 
years. See the charts below showing the growth in truck freight.
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    Rail has inherent transportation advantages over trucking with 
respect to shipping larger volumes with less manpower and fuel. 
However, rail service reliability challenges in 2022 ate away at those 
advantages and caused other supply chain issues.
    For example, feed mills and integrated livestock and poultry 
operations have experienced instances in which trains have not arrived 
and they have been unable to make scheduled feed deliveries to 
producers. At grain export destinations, vessels have waited to be 
loaded due to delayed train deliveries while grain exporters pay 
demurrage charges to the shipping company.
    Grain processors, such as flour mills, crushing and biofuels 
facilities, have experienced rail challenges on the inbound and 
outbound. On inbound, they have been run short on raw agricultural 
commodities and have slowed or shutdown operations. Outbound, their 
sidings have become full of loaded railcars and they have been forced 
to slow or shutdown operations due to having no place to load empty 
railcars. Where able, less efficient truck freight is used to help 
offset gaps in rail service.
    The impact of unreliable rail service is felt across the NGFA 
membership, lowering production and increasing the cost of 
transportation of ethanol, biodiesel, soybean oil, soybean meal, flour, 
animal feed, meat and other products derived from grain and feed.
    The bottom line is that too much of the cost of unreliable and 
unchallengeable rail service is borne by rail customers, agricultural 
producers and the general public. NGFA appreciates the communication 
and openness of rail carriers about the services challenges and current 
rail service is improved from where it had been for most of 2022. 
However, the rail service pain of 2022 is still fresh in the minds of 
NGFA members. NGFA strongly urges Congress and the Surface 
Transportation Board (STB) to take appropriate action to provide 
clearer rules to incentivise better rail service and prevent a repeat 
of 2022.
    The Solutions:
      The most recent STB reauthorization expired on Sept. 30, 
2020. Congress should pass another STB reauthorization with an eye 
toward fostering competition in the freight rail system.
      The NGFA supports Sen. Tammy Baldwin's Reliable Rail 
Service Act from the last Congress that would better define rail 
carriers' common carrier obligation.
      +  By existing statute, rail customers (shippers and receivers) 
have a right to receive reasonable service upon reasonable request, but 
the law/rules are vague and therefore unchallengeable.
      +  If the railroads do not provide such service, there should be 
an easy, quick, and effective challenge process.
      +  A better-defined common carrier obligation may help reverse 
the 40-year trend of trucks capturing most new ag freight demand.
      The NGFA urges STB to conclude its work on Docket No. EP 
711 that would establish reciprocal switching rules to enable the 
creation of rail-to-rail competition at qualifying interchanges.
      The NGFA supports STB's efforts to require additional 
data reporting, particularly for first mile/last-mile rail service.
      The NGFA urges STB to expeditiously work on Docket No. EP 
768 to incentivize rail carriers to more efficiently use rail customer-
owned railcars. Much of the cost of railcar ownership has been 
transferred onto rail customers, yet they have little control over the 
railcars.
      The NGFA supports removing constraints to STB's 
investigative authority that currently are limited to issues of 
national or regional significance and prospective application of 
remedies.
      Lastly, NGFA supports expanding STB's enforcement ability 
for when rail carriers do not comply with STB orders.

    As an association representing a segment of the agricultural supply 
chain that relies heavily on efficient, reliable transportation, we 
believe sensible policy measures are needed to increase trucking 
capacity, preserve/enhance the competitiveness of inland waterways, and 
to deter future rail service challenges. Thank you for holding this 
important hearing on these critical issues.

                                 
Letter of January 31, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
  from Michael W. Johnson, President and CEO, National Stone, Sand & 
    Gravel Association, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam Graves
                                                  January 31, 2023.
Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Washington, DC 
        20515.
Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Washington, DC 
        20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen:
    On behalf of the 400 members of the National Stone, Sand & Gravel 
Association (NSSGA), I am writing to share the aggregates industry's 
views, as the Committee holds its first hearing of the 118th Congress, 
entitled: ``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain 
Challenges.''
    NSSGA is the voice of our nation's aggregates industry, which 
operates over 9,000 operations and employs over 100,000 people in high-
paying jobs to source 2.6 billion tons of aggregates each year that are 
used to sustain our modern way of life and build our nation's 
communities and infrastructure. Our industry is the beginning of the 
building supply chain, as the products we source are the essential 
components needed to build roads, airports, transit, rail, ports clean 
water and energy networks.
    First, as our country faces economic headwinds and an uncertain 
future, the historic Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) is 
laying the groundwork to keep the aggregates and materials industry 
moving forward to build more resilient communities and stronger 
transportation networks that carry American goods and people. The 
certainty provided by IIJA, through the five-year reauthorization of 
our surface transportation programs allows companies in the aggregates 
industry to better plan and make robust investments in our people, 
plants and equipment.
    We would like to provide the following policy recommendations, as 
the committee kicks off its critical work in the 118th Congress to 
ensure transportation and infrastructure policies are best delivering 
results in every American community.
        Oppose Partisan Policies That Were Not Included in IIJA
    Whether investing in a new road in a rural community or a new 
transit system in an urban city, infrastructure investment should 
benefit all Americans--a mantra well-known to members of this 
committee.
    That is why we are concerned with proposed policies that insert new 
criteria into the planning process, such as suggesting disapproval of 
new highway capacity projects in Dec. 2021 FHWA Memorandum that 
encourages limiting investment in new capacity projects, or new 
selection criteria included in federal grant applications that are 
discouraging some communities from participating. These policies were 
considered and rejected by Congress and not carried in IIJA.
    Limiting new transportation capacity projects and curtailing 
flexibility does nothing to ease congestion, reduce air emissions and 
improve the flow of goods, which helps address inflation. Further, 
roads are still an important aspect of achieving an electric vehicle 
future. For example, in California the stated goal is to move away from 
fossil-fueled passenger vehicles in the next decade. If this occurs, 
then new road capacity will not add increased emissions, but it will 
make the movement of goods and people cheaper and quicker. Lack of 
capacity has many negative impacts including increased inflation. 
Flexibility from Washington is critical, as states work to modernize 
our transportation networks, and we should not limit our ability to 
address increasing vehicular capacity to our systems.
    It is critical for the administration to follow the will of 
Congress of providing maximum flexibility to state and local partners 
deploying infrastructure. Partisan mandates attached to federal 
infrastructure opportunities that discourage investment in new capacity 
projects, create more bureaucratic delays, or provide new workforce 
hurdles should be rejected.
    Buy America Build America and the Aggregates Products Exclusion
    One of the key policy changes made under the IIJA was the creation 
of new federal Build America Buy America (BABA) sourcing requirements, 
which include the addition of ``construction materials'' to Buy America 
preferences for federal infrastructure programs.
    The aggregates, cement, concrete, and asphalt paving industry 
worked with Congress, to craft the new statuary requirements to exclude 
aggregates, cement, asphalt additives and paving binders as a 
construction material. Further, products that are made by combining 
these items, like concrete and asphalt, are also excluded from the new 
BABA requirements and subsequent Buy America sourcing rules.
    Unfortunately, one critical roadblock has been the lack of clear 
and conscious communication over the new Build America, Buy America 
regulations, including the exclusion for aggregates-based products. 
Multiple state departments of transportation, in addition to federal 
agencies, have started issuing guidance and information requests to 
begin complying with BABA. Each state and federal agency has issued 
different, often inconsistent and sometimes conflicting guidance. Many 
times, the guidance fails to recognize the aggregates materials 
exclusion leading to confusion across our industries.
    Keep in mind that certain geographic areas of the county do not 
have the geologic deposits that allow local sourcing of stone, sand and 
gravel to make concrete and asphalt and to be used in construction. 
These materials must be imported from nearby countries and often it is 
less costly and produces less air emissions than trucking long 
distances across U.S. regions.
    Likewise, a lack of cement capacity in some states means cement 
must be imported. The lack of asphalt oil production and refineries, 
especially on the east coast, requires agencies and contractors to 
import from Canada to meet demand for basic street paving materials. 
The aggregates industry strongly supports the goals of Congress and the 
administration to expeditiously improve our outdated infrastructure. It 
is imperative that federal and state partners responsible for 
distributing federal investments follow the BABA law and subsequent Buy 
America requirements, as written by Congress, and not impose any 
sourcing requirements or paperwork burdens on concrete, asphalt, 
cement, cementitious material, aggregates, additives, and binder. This 
will ensure maximum project delivery and American job creation.
                  Permitting Reform Is Needed to Build
    Last year, the White House Council on Environmental Quality issued 
a new regulation that complicates the permitting process for large 
infrastructure projects under the National Environmental Permitting Act 
(NEPA). This bureaucratic action broadens definitions and adds 
duplicative federal agency reviews that will do nothing to improve 
environmental outcomes. What is more frustrating is that these new 
rules run counter to the bipartisan NEPA reforms that were included in 
IIJA.
    Aggregates suppliers across the country crave certainty, as we work 
to supply the billions of tons of essential materials needed to improve 
roads; upgrade bridges; advance transportation systems and ports; and 
advance our modern energy infrastructure that will be funded by the 
investments provided by the bipartisan IIJA. This is especially 
important in the current economic environment, where needless red tape 
will delay project implementation and drive-up costs of construction 
materials.
    In one example, the fixed cost investments for aggregates reserves, 
plants and rolling stock to produce this material runs from $3 to $4 
per ton of material produced, which requires tremendous replacement 
capital each year from companies. This requires a huge commitment of 
capital which can be exacerbated by the high inflation we now 
experience. America uses over 2.6 billion tons of aggregate a year. 
This means an annual commitment by private companies of up to $10 
billion per year for new reserves, plants, and equipment to keep 
producing the materials needed to meet the demand.
    Instead of proceeding with new NEPA guidance that complicates the 
procedures, we urge rapid enactment of policies included in IIJA like 
``one federal decision'' that will streamline bureaucratic review and 
reduce infrastructure permitting timelines from seven to two years.
    NEPA is just one part of the permitting problem. Aggregate 
producers must often wait years for federal agencies such as the Army 
Corps of Engineers and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, amongst others 
to issue decisions. Often, the federal regulations conflict with 
similar state regulations adding complexity and red tape in the 
permitting process. Our operations need clear rules and accountable 
federal agencies to produce materials to meet the goals of the IIJA.
Reject the new Waters of the United States (WOTUS) rulemaking until the 
            Supreme Court rules in the Sackett vs. EPA case.
    It is anticipated that the Supreme Court could change how the EPA 
and Army Corps of Engineers define a Waters of the United States 
(WOTUS). On Oct. 3, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments examining 
the Sackett vs. EPA case and questioned the significant nexus analysis.
    All the while, EPA and the Army Corps finalized a new rule on Dec. 
30, which makes substantive and new changes to the definition of WOTUS, 
under the guise of withdrawing the 2020 Navigable Waters Protection 
Rule. In fact, in Feb., the Small Business Administration found that 
the agencies have improperly certified the proposed rule, determined 
the proposed rule expands the definition of WOTUS and impacts small 
businesses requiring a small business regulatory review.
    With the flawed rulemaking now final, material producers will be 
forced to comply with multiple complex changes, resulting in the fifth 
change in a decade. Because of the uncertainty, aggregates producers 
are unsure of when and how new operations and expansions can be 
permitted. With EPA finalizing yet another rule while SCOTUS stands 
poised to alter the rule's underpinning only adds to an already time 
consuming and uncertain permitting process. The current regulatory 
ambiguity is impacting industry ability to obtain CWA permits to 
establish new domestic manufacturing facilities and build 
infrastructure projects that are critical to addressing our supply 
chain crisis.
    Unfortunately, despite hearing from impacted stakeholders, 201 
House members and 50 Senators, the agencies still proceeded with a 
final rule that is likely to conflict with the Supreme Court action. To 
provide our industry with certainty needed to produce construction 
materials that supply the projects funded under IIJA, it is critical 
for the administration to halt this doomed rulemaking process and await 
the SCOTUS decision before proceeding with a new rulemaking process.
                     Rail Service Reform is Needed
    It is no secret that rail service conditions are failing for the 
aggregates and industrial sand industry. Deteriorating rail service 
conditions have a direct impact on our ability to supply millions of 
tons of aggregates and industrial sand, which are used to improve 
outdated infrastructure, build resilient communities, and drive 
America's energy production.
    In detailed comments to the Surface Transportation Board (STB), 
NSSGA shared how service disruptions and unwarranted price increases 
are severely impacting our industry. If action is not taken to improve 
service, the constant delays, and the inability to move product to 
market will continue to have a direct impact on supplying key 
infrastructure projects across the country. This will ultimately plague 
the implementation of the bipartisan IIJA.
    NSSGA calls on Congress and the STB to enact meaningful rail reform 
that levels the playing field between shippers and carriers. One such 
proposal is the pending rulemaking at STB related to reciprocal 
switching. If enacted, this would drive greater competition, especially 
for facilities captive to one carrier.
                         Workforce Development
    A skilled and highly trained inclusive and diverse workforce is 
paramount to safely operating quarries that produce the critical 
materials found in infrastructure projects. Unfortunately, many 
aggregate producers are unable to hire and retain a full workforce in 
today's labor market.
    The aggregates industry takes pride in investing in its employees 
by providing attractive salaries, competitive benefits, robust 
training, support and career development. Our industry's average annual 
salary is over $75,000, and most employees spend their entire careers 
in the industry.
    NSSGA supports policies and funding from the federal government to 
train workers, increase the diversity of our workforce and ensure 
aggregate producers can access the skilled employees needed to continue 
producing the building blocks of America. We also encourage Congress 
and the administration to continue its bipartisan support for programs 
that work with America's veterans, active and reserve service members, 
and their spouses to find meaningful careers and employment 
opportunities.
    Thank you for providing the opportunity for our members to share 
their views as you examine the critical issues impacting our 
transportation network and supply chains.
    Do not hesitate to contact NSSGA should we be able to provide any 
assistance, as the Committee works through this Congress.
        Sincerely,
                                        Michael W. Johnson,
      President and CEO, National Stone, Sand & Gravel Association.

CC:  Members of the House Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure

                                 
Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
    from Sean O'Neill, Senior Vice President of Government Affairs, 
   Portland Cement Association, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Sam 
                                 Graves
                                                  February 1, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    The Portland Cement Association (PCA), which represents the 
majority of U.S. cement manufacturers, appreciates the opportunity to 
submit a statement for today's committee hearing entitled ``The State 
of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges.'' We 
welcome the opportunity to share the perspective of our members on the 
role of cement to building infrastructure and the supply chain 
challenges cement manufacturers are facing.
    Portland cement is a manufactured powder that is the primary 
ingredient in concrete. Portland cement acts as the bonding agent in 
concrete, similar to the role of flour in cake mix. As an essential 
construction material and a basic component of our nation's 
infrastructure, portland cement is utilized in virtually all 
construction applications, including highways, bridges, mass transit, 
airports and runways, offices, dams, and water resource systems and 
facilities. The continued use portland cement ensures concrete remains 
one of the nation's most essential and widely used construction 
materials. Virtually nothing in the modern world can be constructed 
without it.
    Across the country, there are approximately 100 cement 
manufacturing plants in 34 states, including five in Missouri and one 
in Washington. The cement and concrete industry prides itself in 
employing approximately 600,000 people nationwide.
        Implementation of the Infrastructure and Investment Act
    The cement industry appreciates the work of the Transportation and 
Infrastructure Committee and the 117th Congress to pass the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) in 2021. After years of 
deferring investing in our nation's infrastructure, the funding 
provided by the IIJA will address years of underinvestment. 
Additionally, this will spur economic growth, create jobs, and improve 
our nation's global competitiveness.
    The cement industry commends the attention the reauthorization of 
the transportation program places on improving the resilience of 
transportation investments making much needed investments in our 
nation's roads, highways, bridges and transit systems, and addressing 
challenges caused by a changing climate. In each of these, there is a 
role for cement to advance these objectives. PCA also supports the 
steps taken by the IIJA to make sensible reforms to the federal 
permitting and environmental review process. Additionally, PCA supports 
the reauthorization of several Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 
water infrastructure programs, including both the Drinking and Clean 
Water State Revolving Funds (SRFs) and the Water Infrastructure Finance 
and Innovation Act (WIFIA). The EPA's drinking and wastewater 
infrastructure programs provide critical assistance to communities to 
advance much needed water infrastructure projects. In recognition of 
the increase of extreme weather events that are increasingly disrupting 
and damaging water infrastructure in communities across the country, 
PCA supports the attention the IIJA places in improving the resilience 
of this critical infrastructure.
    We expect the demand for cement to increase as states and 
municipalities implement the infrastructure projects funded in large 
part by IIJA. For example, based on PCA's Market Intelligence 
forecasts, the investments made by the IIJA will result in 46 million 
metric tons of cement \1\, which is a significant increase in 
consumption. Not only will these projects use cement to build critical 
infrastructure, but they will also help improve the efficient and cost-
effective movement of cement to market.
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                       Build America, Buy America
    The IIJA included the Build America, Buy America Act (BABA) which 
extends domestic content procurement preferences to certain 
construction materials for all infrastructure projects funded in part 
with federal funding. The BABA established an important limitation on 
the term construction materials. Specifically, the BABA limited the 
term from including ``cement and cementitious materials, aggregates 
such as stone, sand, or gravel, of aggregate binding additives.'' This 
limitation makes clear no construction material domestic content 
procurement preference from these construction materials is established 
under the BABA. Additionally, the BABA prohibits the same construction 
materials from being subject to Buy America as inputs in all 
manufacturing processes that produce construction materials.
    The BABA directs the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to issue 
standards that define all manufacturing processes for construction 
materials for which BABA does apply a domestic content procurement 
preference. The legislative intent of this provision of the BABA is for 
the combination of the listed items as concrete from being exempt from 
the domestic content procurement references included in BABA.
    The OMB has issued initial guidance on BABA implementation related 
to construction materials. However, the OMB has not taken steps to 
issue the standards related to all manufacturing processes. This has 
resulted in inconsistencies in the way BABA is being implemented across 
different federal agencies, and PCA members are receiving questions 
about whether their product is Buy America compliant even though the 
legislative intent of exempting cement and cementitious materials and 
their combination with aggregates to form concrete from the new BABA 
provisions related to construction materials and manufactured product. 
PCA would support efforts on the part of the OMB to clarify to agencies 
that cement and concrete do not have to be BABA compliant.
           Supply Chains and the Efficient Movement of Cement
    Last year, cement consumption in the United States increased 2.9 
percent over 2021 levels, which was also a strong year. Annually, the 
majority of the cement consumed in the United States is manufactured 
domestically. To meet market demand, a portion of the cement consumed 
in the United States is imported. The top five countries where cement 
is imported from are Turkey, Canada, Mexico, Greece, and Vietnam. As we 
have noted we expect demand for cement to increase as more 
infrastructure projects funded by the IIJA.
    Over the past couple of years, cement manufacturers have 
experienced logistics hinderances that have impacted their ability to 
ship cement to market as well as receive shipments to produce the 
energy needed to manufacture cement and the chemicals to maintain 
environmental compliance. In recognition of the regional nature of the 
cement industry, it is critical to have reliable and cost-effective 
transportation options.
    The average cement shipments range between 250 and 300 miles. Truck 
transportation is not economically viable beyond 100 to 125 miles. As 
such, the cement industry relies on railroads to deliver our product to 
the marketplace beyond the economical range of trucks. Several cement 
plants also have access to water transportation for domestic shipments. 
These plants look to barge, rail, and trucks to transport their 
product. In summary, domestic cement manufacturers have historically 
relied heavily on rail transportation to move the majority of shipments 
between cement plants and distribution terminals, and that reliance has 
only grown in the recent years.
    Most bulk cement shipments are from the manufacturing plants to the 
more than 300 regional distribution terminals, where the cement is then 
delivered by truck to the distribution network consisting primarily of 
local contractors and ready mixed concrete producers. It is critically 
important to PCA members that the railroads provide reliable, 
efficient, and cost-effective service to meet the widespread and 
growing demand for our product.
    PCA members have almost universally experienced a decline in rail 
service when Class I railroads moved to precision scheduled railroading 
(PSR). With challenges already facing the logistics of consistent 
service, this shift has resulted in a significant increase in missed 
switches and increased demurrage billings. This has led to increased 
costs to cement manufacturers not only through increased demurrage but 
lost sales. One single anecdotal example represents the potential 
magnitude of this difficult situation. Due to poor rail service to one 
terminal location, a specific shipper lost between 60,000 to 100,000 
tons of annual volume. This amount would be enough to build as many as 
3,000 standard-sized homes. Many of our members have seen their rail 
service further decline over the last two years with staffing cuts and 
challenges associated with the COVID-19 pandemic. Cement is also exempt 
from Surface Transportation Board (Board) oversight. We appreciate the 
steps the Board is taking to not only draw attention poor rail service 
but also improve rail service, but not all actions taken by the Board 
help our members in their interactions with the railroads due to the 
lack of Board oversight.
    In conclusion, PCA and our members are committed to working with 
this committee to ensure that our transportation network and the supply 
chains that are so critical to our nation's infrastructure are 
operating in a manner that grows our economy and meets future demands. 
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to Sean 
O'Neill.
        Sincerely,
                                              Sean O'Neill,
        Senior Vice President, Government Affairs, Portland Cement 
                                                       Association.

                                 
 Statement of the Wabtec Corporation, Submitted for the Record by Hon. 
                               Sam Graves
    Westinghouse Air Brake Technologies Corporation (``Wabtec'') 
submits the below testimony in response to the House Transportation and 
Infrastructure Committee's February 1, 2023 hearing titled, ``The State 
of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply Chain Challenges.'' As a 
leading global provider of equipment, systems, digital solutions, and 
value-added services for the freight and transit rail industries, 
Wabtec is uniquely qualified to comment on the country's transportation 
and supply chain challenges and opportunities.
                           Wabtec Corporation
    As a global technology leader in transportation, Wabtec designs, 
manufactures, and services freight rail and marine transportation 
products, logistics, and digital solutions that move people and goods 
across the U.S., North America, and the globe. Headquartered in 
Pittsburgh, PA, Wabtec operates in over 50 countries with 27,000 
employees worldwide, including over 10,000 in the U.S. With more than 
23,000 locomotives in its global installed base, Wabtec moves more than 
20% of the world's freight in over 100 countries.
    Today, rail represents the cleanest, most energy efficient, and 
safest mode of moving freight and people on land. As global demands for 
growth increase, current trends indicate that freight and passenger 
rail activity will more than double by 2050, leading to an increased 
demand for sustainable transportation of people and goods. At Wabtec, 
we are helping our freight and passenger transit customers reduce their 
overall carbon footprint through the development of low-emitting 
locomotives like our Tier 4 diesel-electric locomotives, and battery-
electric locomotives, energy management systems like Trip Optimizer, as 
well as next generation transit products, Green Air and Green Friction.
                Wabtec's Freight Locomotive Technologies
    Despite the low carbon footprint rail brings to freight movement, 
Wabtec is committed to developing technologies to further enhance the 
safety, efficiency, and sustainability of the U.S. freight rail 
network. Wabtec has been leading the industry in cleaner, more energy-
efficient freight rail solutions. Wabtec's Tier 4 locomotive, designed 
to meet the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's most stringent 
emission standards, was the first-of-its-kind. Today, there are more 
than 1,000 Tier 4 locomotives in service delivering a 70% reduction in 
emissions. In 2019, this fleet of Tier 4 locomotives completed more 
than 100 million miles of revenue service, the equivalent of hauling 
freight to the surface of Mars.
    To further reduce the freight rail industry's carbon footprint, 
Wabtec developed the world's first 100-percent heavy-haul battery-
electric locomotive called the FLXdrive. The FLXdrive was designed at 
Wabtec's Campus in Erie, a 111-year-old site considered the backbone of 
innovation for the rail industry. With haulage capabilities comparable 
to its diesel equivalent, the FLXdrive locomotive is designed to 
replace a diesel locomotive within a train consist, unlocking new 
levels of operational flexibility for the freight rail industry.
    The FLXdrive 1.0 demonstration ran over 13,000 miles and delivered 
an average of 11% reduction in fuel consumption across the train. This 
is the equivalent of 6,200 gallons of diesel fuel saved and 
approximately 65 metric tons of carbon dioxide (``CO2'') emissions 
reduced. At an 8 MWhr battery capacity, we have an opportunity to 
further reduce fuel consumption and emissions by up to 30%.
    Wabtec also has made significant investments in the existing 
locomotive fleet through its remanufacturing and modernization 
programs. These programs lead to up to 15 percent improved fuel 
efficiency, greater than 40 percent increase in reliability, 
approximately 50 percent increase in haulage ability, and a reduction 
in maintenance and repair expenses. In addition, these programs support 
a circular economy by extending the useful life of our products and 
reducing waste in our operations. In 2021, Wabtec remanufactured its 
1000th locomotive, and we continue to expand this capability to 
customers around the globe.
    In addition to modernizing the existing locomotive fleet, Wabtec is 
researching alternative fuels to reduce the emissions impact of the 
existing fleet. In 2022, Wabtec partnered with Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory and Argonne National Laboratory to test and develop a 
locomotive engine capable of running on both hydrogen and diesel. This 
project seeks to displace diesel fuel by 50% or more with hydrogen in 
order to create a lower carbon retrofit option for existing locomotives 
\1\. Additionally, Wabtec partnered with BNSF Railway and Union Pacific 
Railroad to test and validate alternative fuel blends to measure the 
impact on emissions, durability and performance of Wabtec locomotives 
\2\. Technology adoption across the freight rail industry will be a 
driver for the modernization of the entire freight and supply chain 
ecosystem, making it cleaner and more efficient.
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engine. https://www.freightwaves.com/news/national-labs-wabtec-partner-
to-develop-next-gen-locomotive-engine
    \2\ Wabtec and BNSF Railway Biofuels Pilot to Advance 
Sustainability. https://www.wabteccorp.com/newsroom/press-releases/
wabtec-and-bnsf-railway-biofuels-pilot-to-advance-sustainability; UP, 
Wabtec, REG Launch Renewable Fuels Testing. https://www.railwayage.com/
mechanical/locomotives/up-wabtec-reg-launch-renewable-fuels-testing/
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                         Positive Train Control
    Wabtec also leads the way in rail utilization, safety, and 
logistics optimization technology. In 2008, Congress passed the Rail 
Safety Improvement Act, which mandated the implementation of Positive 
Train Control (``PTC'') systems on most of America's railroads. Since 
2008, Wabtec has supplied over 24,000 locomotives with its 
Interoperable Electronic Train Management System (``I-ETMS''), a 
safety-critical overlay system that provides means to enforce movement 
authorities, speed restrictions, work zones and switch positioning to 
help reduce the potential for train accidents. I-ETMS integrates new 
technology with existing train control and operating systems to enhance 
train-operation safety.
    With I-ETMS, the crew remains in control of the train, while the 
system monitors and ensures the crew's compliance with all operating 
instructions. The on-board computer, with the aid of an on-board 
geographic track database and GPS system, constantly calculates warning 
and braking curves based on all relevant train and track information 
including speed, location, movement authority, speed restrictions, work 
zones, and consist restrictions. All information is combined and 
analyzed in real time to provide a ``safety-net'' for improved train 
operations.
    Wabtec continues to accelerate innovation with development funding 
to create new products and capabilities to increase customer 
productivity, efficiency, capacity, utilization, and safety. Wabtec is 
working to increase rail utilization through advanced PTC systems by 
developing new technologies to utilize ``moving blocks'' instead of the 
traditional fixed blocks used by most railroads today. Currently, PTC 
uses ``fixed block'' technology that uses wayside signaling systems, 
built into the railroad's infrastructure, to transmit a train's 
location. These fixed locations only allow for one train in a ``block'' 
at any given time. ``Moving block'' would use onboard transponders to 
transmit a train's location to other trains behind or ahead. This 
allows trains to maintain a safe distance between each other and 
eliminates inefficiencies of the fixed block system. Moving block 
reduces headways between trains and increases rail capacity, while 
maintaining stringent safety standards.\3\
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                        Freight Rail Utilization
    A functioning and resilient supply chain is not possible without a 
robust freight rail industry. The United States has the most extensive 
rail network on the planet, and in 2020, railroads accounted for 40% of 
long-distance freight by volume.\4\ Freight rail is the cleanest, 
safest, and most efficient way to move goods over land.\5\ Even with 
its clear advantages, roughly 85% of America's primary corridor rail 
mileage is currently underutilized.\6\ The United States must find ways 
to increase utilization of its freight railways if we want to move 
goods and materials more efficiently, effectively, and sustainably.
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figures#::text=Freight%20railroads%20account%20for%20roughly,
transportation%2Drelated%20greenhouse%20gas%20emissions.
    \5\ https://www.aar.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AAR-Safety-Fact-
Sheet.pdf
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    Wabtec is developing next-generation technologies, such as dynamic 
network planning artificial intelligence, and on-demand logistics 
planning to optimize heavy haul operations, increase yard capacity and 
cargo visibility, and grow ``first & last'' mile operations. Our 
Movement Planner system optimizes the mainline network by providing 
real-time rail traffic planning and optimization, enabling freight to 
move more efficiently using existing rail networks, thereby reducing 
energy use, emissions, and waste.
    Movement Planner is currently being used by two of the most complex 
railroads in North America, Norfolk Southern and the BNSF along with 
two Australian natural resources railroads. This technology has 
resulted in a 15% reduction in dwell time compared to the prior year.
    With advancements to current signaling systems, network efficiency 
solutions, and freight rail utilization technologies, the rail industry 
could increase the freight rail network capacity by roughly 50% without 
adding a single piece of track.\7\
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                             Freight Yards
    America's freight railroads remain a critical part of our nation's 
supply chain with a proven record of navigating disruptions, such as 
the COVID-19 pandemic to deliver goods reliably and bolster the U.S. 
economy. In a typical year, U.S. freight railroads move 1.7 billion 
tons across nearly 140,000-miles of privately owned infrastructure that 
runs through 49 states.
    With rail accounting for such a large percentage of freight 
movements, separating and sorting railcars and building new outbound 
trains within freight yards are central to freight delivery 
performance. Yet, today, most yards have minimal real-time asset 
tracking capabilities, so shippers cannot track their shipments across 
the supply chain network.
    RailConnect Transportation Management System is a Wabtec software 
solution that enables companies to increase efficiency and 
productivity, improve revenue recognition, and optimize service levels. 
To date, more than 600 short line customers are using RailConnect to 
control and manage yard, inventory, waybills, train movements, 
switching, demurrage, and even miscellaneous billing.
    Building on the benefits of greater supply chain visibility, 
Wabtec's Yard of the Future initiative looks to modernize rail yard 
operations and develop advanced solutions to reduce emissions and 
improve overall logistics efficiency in rail yards. Yard of the Future 
will use planning tools and remote-control capabilities to improve yard 
capacity and efficiency. Coupled with increased usage of zero-emission, 
battery-powered yard equipment, Yard of the Future will accelerate yard 
throughput, better integrate yard operations, and improve the 
environmental footprint of railyard operations.
    One of the tools being utilized within the Yard of the Future 
initiative is Wabtec's unique digital solution called the 
Classification Yard Planner. This platform combines dynamic planning 
tools, increased visibility, and decision support systems to unlock 
productivity and network efficiency. It is designed to help railroads 
make the best decisions around asset use and resource allocation so 
they can get cars connected and out of the yard faster. Based on 
initial pilot implementations at a Class I railroad, Wabtec's 
Classification Yard Planner is estimated to improve car connections by 
10%, decrease car dwell time by 5%, and reduce administrative and 
planning efforts by 44%.
                            Ports and Marine
    Over the last two years, the COVID-19 pandemic strained America's 
ports and supply chains. As demand for goods sharply increased, supply 
bottlenecks manifested across the globe, including at our nation's 
ports. At the nation's busiest port, the Port of Los Angeles 
(``POLA''), hundreds of ships laid at anchor off the Southern 
California coast waiting to be unloaded. While POLA worked diligently 
to alleviate these pressures, including moving to 24/7 operation, the 
supply chain crisis persisted for months.
    To keep cargo flowing efficiently and increase throughput at 
America's ports, Wabtec has developed part of the solution, the Port 
Optimizer, an unparalleled cloud-based information portal designed to 
digitize maritime shipping data for cargo owners and supply chain 
stakeholders through secure, channeled access. Port Optimizer can 
collect data from dozens of different sources and use machine-learning 
algorithms to standardize the incoming data into one platform. The 
platform contains data sourced from direct connects with 9 of the top 
10 global shipping lines and all marine terminals within POLA. POLA 
uses Port Optimizer to enhance supply chain performance through real-
time data, which helps relieve bottlenecks at the port. Port Optimizer 
also contains data from selected third-party providers, including 
United States Customs and Border Protection, The Marine Exchange of 
Southern California, GeoStamp, and others.
    Port Optimizer's Track and Trace application provides visibility of 
containers and other port assets to drayage companies and beneficial 
cargo owners. The Control Tower application provides port-wide 
historical and future forecasted container volumes for Port Authorities 
to analyze trends. By enabling these features, the Port of Los Angeles 
increased its throughput, improved efficiency with digital 
infrastructure, and created an on-time, accurate, and reliable source 
of data for port stakeholders to better plan operations.
    Wabtec is also an integral partner within the marine industry. As 
marine fleets connect to ports, Wabtec's breakthrough Tier 4 engine 
technology has been adapted for marine use to provide one of the 
cleanest, most efficient movement of goods and people on water. 
Wabtec's marine diesel engines are used on ships, ferries, dredgers, 
and other marine applications. These engines are less complex to 
install, easy to operate, and allows customers to save up to 75 percent 
of valuable cargo, fuel, and accommodation space due to their smaller 
size.
    At the nation's ports, Wabtec's ShoreCONNECT solution is designed 
to help create a safer and more efficient supply chain for goods 
movement by reducing emissions and increasing logistical flexibility. 
ShoreCONNECT consists of movable power connectors that power ships with 
clean electricity as they berth without the need of a diesel generator. 
At the Port of Keil in Germany, ShoreCONNECT has the potential to 
reduce 12,000 tons of carbon emissions annually from cruise ships by 
providing shore power, while also reducing operating costs, emissions, 
and noise.
                               Conclusion
    For over 150 years, Wabtec has been at the forefront of freight, 
rail yards, and ports technology advancement. Wabtec is proud to 
partner with Class 1 railroads, short lines, ports, and yards 
operators, and shippers to develop solutions to improve the safety, 
reliability, efficiency, and sustainability of today's freight and 
logistics networks. We thank the Committee for holding this important 
hearing and look forward to working with Congress to accelerate 
critical investments and partnerships to ensure a resilient and 
efficient national supply chain and transportation network.

                                 
    Letter of October 3, 2022, to Hon. Pete Buttigieg, Secretary of 
   Transportation, from the Community Transportation Association of 
      America et al., Submitted for the Record by Hon. Rick Larsen
                                                   October 3, 2022.
The Honorable Pete Buttigieg,
Secretary of Transportation,
1200 New Jersey Ave SE, Washington, DC 20590.
    Dear Mr. Secretary,
    Thank you for your leadership in implementing the historic 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. This investment in our infrastructure 
comes as a critical time as the nation emerges from the COVID-19 
pandemic and navigates ongoing supply chain and inflation issues.
    The undersigned organizations, led by the Community Transportation 
Association of America's (CTAA), write today to bring awareness to a 
burgeoning crisis in the small bus industry that threatens the ongoing 
operations of rural, small-city, paratransit and non-emergency medical 
transportation providers across the nation. Today, the demand for small 
buses, particularly body-on-chassis vehicles, far outstrips supply with 
estimates of 20,000 small bus purchases currently backlogged.
    We need your assistance in securing more chassis for the small bus 
marketplace so the trips to vital health care appointments (like 
dialysis); to congregate meal sites and grocery stores; to work and 
education; and to other social services that these types of buses 
typically serve can safely continue. In addition, the current 
environment creates an opportunity to promote flexibility, competition, 
and innovation by streamlining the procurement regulations for small 
buses.
    Recent dialogue among transit agencies, state departments of 
transportation, bus dealers and bus manufacturers highlight the current 
state of the small bus marketplace:
      A survey of State Departments of Transportation (State 
DOTs) last month revealed that three quarters of State DOTs are feeling 
an unprecedented level of concern regarding standard vehicle 
replacements and maintaining a state of good repair, with more than 
one-half of agencies having had a small bus purchasing contract or 
agreement terminated in 2022;
      Bus dealers predict the small bus backlog, nationally, to 
eclipse 20,000 in 2023, and expect full recovery of the market to take 
five to seven years;
      The largest small bus manufacturer currently has one of 
seven manufacturing facilities up-and-running, and can only meet 25 
percent of demand; and
      Prices for these vehicles are running 30 percent to 70 
percent above pre-pandemic levels.

    With the Biden Administration's leadership in enacting the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), public transit providers 
have record levels of federal capital investment. However, the small 
bus manufacturing backlog and price inflation threaten to stifle the 
IIJA's impact on transit service delivery in communities across the 
country. The positive impact of the IIJA's generational infrastructure 
investment is surely threatened by this situation.
    The undersigned transit industry partners are actively working 
together to collaborate and support each other throughout this 
challenging time. Working together, we have developed a number of 
potential solutions for your consideration, including:
      Encourage chassis manufacturers, particularly Ford, to 
set aside units for vital public transportation and for small buses.
      Streamline current procurement regulations, with an 
emphasis on flexibility, because of the unprecedented nature of current 
small bus crisis. Use the vehicle backlog, nationally, to determine the 
timeframe for these procurement process changes.
      Expand the Federal Transit Administration's (FTA) 
proposed Buy America general nonavailability waiver for passenger vans 
(87 Fed. Reg. 43101) to include waiving Buy America requirements for 
small buses and vans when manufacturers are not able to guarantee 
delivery within 12 months or less of an order. Use this temporary 
waiver to incent manufacturers to locate production facilities in the 
United States.
      Offer clear guidance to FTA grantees on whether, when, 
and how to amend bus procurements or reprogram funds when vehicles as 
specified cannot be delivered under the terms of a procurement 
agreement.

    In summary, we strongly encourage the U.S. Department of 
Transportation to help the public transit industry secure additional 
chassis for the small bus market. It is critical to our shared goal of 
ensuring that the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law provides unparalleled 
opportunities to all Americans. We would surely welcome any opportunity 
to discuss this critical subject further.
        Sincerely,
Scott Bogren,

  Executive Director, Community Transportation Association of America.

Paul P. Skoutelas,

  President and CEO, American Public Transportation Association.

Jim Tymon,

  Executive Director, American Association of State Highway and 
Transportation Officials.


Vermont Agency of Transportation,
  Barre, VT.
Nebraska Association of Transportation Providers,
  Milford, NE.
Tennessee Public Transportation Association,
  Nashville, TN.
Georgia Transit Association,
  Marietta, GA.
Transportation Association of Maryland,
  Linthicum, MD.
Prairie Hills Transit,
  Spearfish, SD.
TransAction Corporate Shuttles, Inc.,
  Woburn, MA.
New Mexico Department of Transportation,
  Santa Fe, NM.
Call a Ride Service, Inc.,
  Lewistown, PA.
Utah State University Aggie Shuttle,
  Logan, Utah.
Southern Georgia Regional Commission,
  Georgia.
Starkville Mississippi State Area Rapid Transit,
  Mississippi State, MS.
Rogue Valley Transportation District,
  Medford, OR.
Ohio Department of Transportation,
  Ohio.
Washington State Transit Association,
  Washington.
River Bend Transit,
  Davenport, IA.
Arkansas Transit Association,
  Arkansas.
Mercer County Trade,
  Trenton, NJ.
Oklahoma Transit Association,
  Oklahoma.
Coordinated Transportation Solutions,
  Trumbull, CT.
Alabama DOT,
  Alabama.
Special Services Transportation Agency,
  Colchester, VT.
Tri-Valley Transit,
  Middlebury, VT.
Claiborne County Human Resource Agency,
  Port Gibson, MS.
Alaska Mobility Coalition,
  Anchorage, AL.
Oklahoma Department of Transportation,
  Oklahoma City, OK.
California Association for Coordinated Transportation (CALACT),
  Sacramento, CA.
Fairmont-Marion County Transit Authority,
  Fairmont, WV.
North Carolina Public Transit Association,
  North Carolina.
Kentucky Public Transit Association,
  Kentucky.
Illinois Public Transit Association,
  Illinois.
Minnesota Department of Transportation,
  St. Paul, Minnesota.
  
TPRG,
  Cocoa Beach, FL.
Community Transportation Association of the Northwest,
  Oregon and Washington.
Community Transportation Association of Virginia,
  Radford, Virginia.
Missouri Public Transit Association,
  Missouri.
Florida Public Transportation Association,
  Tallahassee, FL.
The Bus Coalition,
  Nationwide.
Michigan Public Transit Association,
  Lansing, Michigan.
Michigan Transportation Connection, Inc.,
  East Lansing.
Upper Cumberland Human Resource Agency,
  Cookeville, Tennessee.
California Department of Transportation,
  California.
River Cities Public Transit,
  Pierre, South Dakota.
Michigan Department of Transportation,
  Michigan.
SporTran,
  Shreveport, LA.
Maricopa Association of Governments,
  Phoenix, Arizona.
NJ Transit Corp.,
  Newark, NJ.
MDOT MTA,
  Maryland.
Siouxland Regional Transit System,
  Sioux City, Iowa.
South Dakota Department of Transportation,
  Pierre, SD.
  
Ionia Dial-A-Ride,
  Ionia, Michigan.
Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation,
  Richmond, Virginia.
MIDAS Council of Governments,
  Fort Dodge, IA.
Vermont Clean Cities Coalition,
  Burlington, VT.
Division of Multimodal Transportation Facilities, Division of Public 
Transit, West Virginia Department of Transportation,
  Charleston, WV.
South West Transit Association,
  Fort Worth, Texas.
Texas Transit Association--TTA,
  Austin, Texas.
MS Department of Transportation,
  Mississippi.
Southeast Vermont Transit,
  Vermont.
Gifford Health Care,
  Randolph, Vermont.
Community Transit of Watertown/ Sisseton, Inc.,
  Watertown, SD.
Two Rivers-Ottauquechee Regional Commission,
  Woodstock, Vermont.
Senior Solutions Council on Aging,
  Southeastern, VT.
Age Well, Inc.,
  Vermont.
Upper Valley Services,
  Bradford, VT.
Senior Solutions,
  Springfield, VT.
Mississippi Public Transit Association,
  Natchez, Mississippi.
Natchez Transit Regional Center,
  Natchez, Mississippi.
Natchez Senior Citizen's Multipurpose Center,
  Natchez, Mississippi.

                                 
Letter of February 1, 2023, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Rick 
Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, 
 from the American Chemistry Council, Submitted for the Record by Hon. 
                             Dusty Johnson
                                                  February 1, 2023.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chairman,
House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, United States 
        House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, United States 
        House of Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.

Re:  Hearing on ``The State of Transportation Infrastructure and Supply 
Chain Challenges''

    Dear Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen:
    The American Chemistry Council (ACC) appreciates the Committee 
holding this hearing to examine transportation and supply chain 
challenges and to learn how carriers will address them. Just like the 
carriers testifying at the hearing, shippers continue to face 
unprecedented transportation problems that adversely impact their 
operations, which in turn impacts the broader economy by fueling 
inflation and the shortage of products and materials.
    ACC represents more than 150 of America's leading chemical 
companies. Our members manufacture a wide variety of chemicals, 
polymers, and related products that help make our lives and our world 
healthier, safer, more sustainable, and more productive. The business 
of chemistry is also essential to building and construction, 
electronics, farming, food production, vaccines, medicine, automobiles, 
aerospace and much more.
    The chemical sector is one of the largest shippers by volume across 
all modes of transportation--for marine, rail and truck. Our 
transportation needs are growing as the result of the resurgence of 
U.S. chemical manufacturing. ACC's Economics and Statistics department 
found that investments in chemical manufacturing in the U.S. will drive 
tremendous new transportation demand with more than 830 thousand 
additional chemical shipments per year by 2032:
      337K additional marine container shipments
      122K additional rail shipments
      370K additional truck shipments

    Supply chain and freight transportation disruptions have caused 
considerable problems for chemical producers. In fact, a survey of ACC 
members found that 97 percent of companies reported that they had been 
forced to modify or curtail operations because of transportation. And 
our members tell us that significant supply chain and freight 
transportation challenges persist.
    ACC recognizes and applauds the important steps that Congress and 
the Administration have taken to help address transportation 
challenges, including the passage of the bipartisan Ocean Shipping 
Reform Act (OSRA). We also thank Congress for the swift, bi-partisan 
action to avert a shutdown of the nation's rail network. However, more 
needs to be done to improve the efficiency, capacity, and resiliency of 
America's freight transportation system.
Trucking Policy
    Chemical manufacturers are concerned that constraints in the 
trucking industry could hinder future growth and investments. We urge 
Congress to pass the Safer Highways and Increased Performance for 
Interstate Trucking (SHIP IT) Act to help the trucking industry deliver 
for businesses and consumers. The bill contains key reforms that will 
help recruit and retain drivers, while maximizing the efficiency of the 
country's trucking network and without creating new regulations.
Freight Rail Reform
    Freight rail is critical to ACC's members and chemical 
manufacturing. Our industry is one of the largest freight rail 
customers, shipping over two million carloads annually.
    ACC appreciates the testimony from Ian Jefferies of the Association 
of American Railroads acknowledging that rail service has not been what 
customers deserve and stating that railroads are ``fully committed to 
restoring service to a consistently high level.'' However, rail service 
failures cannot be blamed solely on the pandemic, and rail customers 
deserve more than promises that railroads will do better in the future.
    Railroads cut tens of thousands of jobs before the pandemic 
started. In addition, railroads have dramatically changed their 
operations and the level of service they provide to shippers as they 
implemented Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR). These changes have 
harmed many rail customers through additional costs and service 
failures.
    Given the massive changes within the freight rail industry and 
their ramifications for the economy, the Surface Transportation Board 
(STB) cannot afford to stand still. The STB should adopt new approaches 
that are better equipped to address the current environment. 
Competition and market forces provide the best means to balance the 
needs of railroads and their customers. Policies that promote greater 
competition within the rail industry help make it an attractive and 
viable option to move freight, and competition will incentivize 
railroads to attract and retain the skilled workforce needed to meet 
this demand.
    We urge Congress to provide the Surface Transportation Board with 
the resources it needs to finalize long overdue regulatory reforms that 
will provide greater access to competitive and reliable freight rail 
service.
    Specifically, ACC supports the STB's proposal to change its 
restrictive rules on reciprocal switching. This key reform would 
finally provide greater access to competitive rail service as 
envisioned by the Staggers Rail Act more than 40 years ago. Reciprocal 
switching will help provide competitive transportation rates, open up 
more service options, and ease congested routes.
    In addition, we support the Board's efforts to collect and report 
more meaningful data on service performance to rail customers known as 
``first mile/last mile service.'' Collecting this critical data would 
provide the STB and rail customers with better insight into some of the 
most disruptive service problems so they can be effectively addressed.
    Finally, we urge Congress and the STB to further define and clarify 
the service performance levels that railroads are required to meet as 
part of their Common Carrier Obligation. This will provide greater 
accountability and help prevent future service failures.
    ACC would like to work with the Committee to deliver solutions that 
will help improve the transportation network and strengthen the 
nation's supply chains.
        Sincerely,
                                American Chemistry Council.


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Question from Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton to Chris Spear, President and 
        Chief Executive Officer, American Trucking Associations

    Question 1. One of the best ways to improve roadway safety for 
truckers is to better train drivers and prepare them for the 
profession. A well-trained driver will be better able to handle the 
challenging situations they will inevitably face, and by making sure 
they are prepared for the career, they are more likely to stay in the 
industry, gain experience, and drive more safely.
    The Entry Level Driver Training standards, or ELDT rule, went into 
effect in February 2022 after a delay. Before this ELDT rule there were 
no national training standards for truckers getting their Commercial 
Driver's License.
    Congress has now seen requests from some carriers and segments of 
the industry to be exempted from the requirements, while others call 
for the ELDT standards to be repealed entirely. At a time when the 
number of crashes involving large trucks remains unacceptably high, 
such actions would further jeopardize roadway safety.
    Mr. Spear, does the American Trucking Associations oppose 
exemptions to the ELDT rule?
    Answer. Thank you for the question. ATA is generally opposed to 
additional legislative ELDT exemptions. As I note on page 10 of my 
written testimony, ``ATA has long supported the Entry Level Driver 
Training (ELDT) rule,'' and ``ATA is discouraged by recent legislative 
efforts that attempted to exempt certain individuals from this 
standardized training curriculum.''

 Questions from Hon. John James to Ian Jefferies, President and Chief 
          Executive Officer, Association of American Railroads

    Question 1. Michigan is home to 3,600 miles of rail corridors. In 
my district, the #1 manufacturing district in America, rail helps auto 
plants move new automobiles across the country. I understand that a 
strong rail network is critical for a strong manufacturing sector, my 
district, the state of Michigan and our nation. Can you touch on what 
Congress could--or should--be doing to further build upon the country's 
rail network?
    Answer. Safety is always first, but focusing on legislative and 
regulatory changes that are carefully constructed, supported by 
evidence, and performance-based will ensure the policymakers avoid 
unintended negative consequences and help the rail network, and our 
economy as a whole, remain strong.
    First, policymakers should focus on performance-based, rather than 
prescriptive regulations, to avoid inadvertently locking-in existing 
technologies and processes and blocking innovations that could improve 
safety and performance. Railroads have long invested in innovative 
technological solutions to meet safety goals, but achieving maximum 
benefit from that innovation, and thereby encouraging railroads to keep 
investing in those technologies, requires railroads and policymakers to 
work together.
    The importance of allowing innovation to improve safety is 
exemplified by hot bearing detectors, which monitor changes in the 
temperature of wheel bearings. Currently, railroads use heat-sensing 
wayside detectors at specific intervals along the track to identify 
when a bearing is overheating, but through innovation, railroads have 
developed onboard detectors that continually monitor wheel bearings in 
real time. Regulations to lock in or mandate wayside detectors when a 
safer, more-effective onboard detector is being developed and deployed 
could actually impede safety improvements and not achieve railroads' 
and policymakers' shared safety goals. In addition, basing policies on 
science-based data and demonstrated safety improvements will ensure 
that regulations achieve the highest safety standards.
    Second, continuing to implement and oversee the Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) and improve permitting will ensure that 
critical investments in the nation's infrastructure continue. Many of 
the intermodal projects of national and regional significance funded 
through IIJA could not possibly be carried out by state or local 
governments alone. Moreover, new programs like the Grade Crossing 
Elimination Program, are critical to improve safety for all communities 
where railroads operate. Efforts to streamline the grant application 
process and oversee program implementation will ensure that IIJA 
resources have the largest possible impact on our national 
infrastructure. In addition, efforts to improve the permitting process 
should speed project delivery without short-changing important 
environmental reviews. For example, Congress should focus on efforts to 
set timelines and clarify the scope of state reviews under the Clean 
Water Act and to extend One Federal Decision to cover National 
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) reviews done by all federal agencies. 
These reforms will ensure that the significant investments made by 
Congress through the IIJA will be as impactful as possible while 
maintaining high environmental standards.
    Third, policymakers should restore the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) to 
a user-pays system, which historically funded investments in public 
road and bridge infrastructure. Revenues into the HTF have failed to 
keep pace with investment needs, requiring general fund transfers to 
cover the shortfall. As a result, policymakers have been forced to 
transfer a total of $275 billion of general taxpayer funds to repair 
roads and bridges since 2008, including $118 billion in IIJA, which 
will only cover the HTF shortfall through 2026. General fund transfers 
to the HTF distort the freight transportation market in favor of the 
commercial trucking industry and put other modes, including railroads, 
at an unfair competitive disadvantage. This is especially true for the 
railroad industry, as freight railroads invest well over $20 billion of 
their own revenue every year to build, maintain, and pay for the 
140,000-mile rail network. The lack of adequate revenue raised for the 
HTF is partly the result of trucks weighing 80,000 pounds, which do not 
come close to paying for the damage they cause to our public highway 
system. Policymakers should also reject calls to increase federal truck 
size and weight limits. Trucks' multi-billion-dollar annual 
underpayment would become even greater if truck length and weight 
limits were increased.
    Finally, the rates and service offerings of freight railroads are 
subject to the regulatory jurisdiction of the Surface Transportation 
Board (STB) and maintaining the balanced regulatory framework created 
by The Staggers Act is essential to supporting a strong rail network. A 
return to unbalanced regulation would result in a sharp decline in the 
efficiency and quality of rail service, leaving the entire supply chain 
worse off.

    Question 2. Mr. Jefferies, can you elaborate on new technologies 
that have been implemented in the rail industry?--as it relates to 
safety, communications, new locomotives.
    Answer. Railroads have long applied technological solutions to 
improve safety and enhance performance. Many of these technologies were 
developed and/or tested at MxV Rail (formerly Transportation Technology 
Center, Inc.), the world's premier railroad research and testing 
facility in Pueblo, CO. Railroads often develop and deploy these 
technologies across the industry without any government mandate or 
beyond government mandates to continually improve safety. A few 
examples of safety-enhancing technology include:
      AskRail. Technology has made it easier than ever to share 
information and resources in the rare event of a rail accident. AskRail 
allows emergency responders to input the identification number of a 
particular rail car and immediately determine the commodity contained 
in that car, its hazard class, emergency response information 
associated with the commodity, and other information. Emergency 
responders in the East Palestine, OH, derailment properly used AskRail 
to quickly obtain information on the railcars involved in that 
accident. The rail industry recently announced an initiative to double 
the number of first responders who have access to the tool by the end 
of 2023.
      Hot bearing detectors (HBDs). Railroads monitor wheel 
bearing temperatures using heat-sensing detectors placed at intervals 
along railroad tracks. These detectors notify the locomotive engineer 
if it is necessary to stop a train due to an overheated bearing. 
Following the derailment in East Palestine, OH, Class I railroads 
recently announced plans to install approximately 1,000 new HBDs so 
that HBD spacing on most key routes will be reduced to no more than 15 
miles, down from the current average of 20 miles. Railroads also 
recently agreed to a new industry standard that calls for stopping 
trains and inspecting bearings whenever the temperature reading from an 
HBD exceeds 170 degrees above ambient temperature. In addition, 
railroads are continuing to invest in on-board detector technology, 
which provides continuous, real-time monitoring as the train moves 
rather than waiting to pass a wayside detector.
      Locomotive sensors. Today's locomotives are outfitted 
with hundreds of sensors that generate thousands of performance 
readings per minute to maximize efficiency. These sensors allow 
analysts to identify equipment needing maintenance. In addition, 
advanced locomotive fuel management systems provide engineers with 
real-time recommendations on how to maximize fuel efficiency and sense 
when an engine is getting too hot or when oil is contaminated.
      Positive train control (PTC). PTC has been fully deployed 
on rail lines that carry passengers and high volumes of hazardous 
materials. PTC monitors train location, speed, track signals, and many 
other inputs to prevent certain train-to-train collisions and 
derailments caused by human error. Beyond safety, PTC systems and their 
foundational components have the potential to drive further 
efficiencies and innovation.
      Machine vision. Machine vision technology uses cameras 
that collect thousands of images of trains per second as they pass by. 
A series of algorithms then analyze the images to identify anomalies, 
allowing railroads to resolve issues much more quickly and effectively 
than they could with manual inspections alone.
      Wheel impact load detectors. These detectors identify 
wheels that are heavily pounding on the tracks and pull them from 
service if they are reaching the end of their useful life.
      Training simulators. Railroads use a combination of field 
training, on-the-job training, and distance learning to create their 
professional workforce, with some railroads owning dedicated technical 
training centers. Simulators range from locomotive and power-operated 
switches to grade crossing simulators and virtual welding. For example, 
engineers can virtually learn train handling procedures on different 
parts of track.
      Ultrasound. As a train travels over track segments, 
energy is transmitted through the track and into the ground below. This 
energy can be measured as a series of sound waves, collectively called 
an acoustic signature that differs depending on the health of the 
track. Going farther down, ground-penetrating radar looks inside track 
foundation to identify water damage or deterioration.
      Drones and sonar. Railroads use drones to inspect bridges 
and to take video and pictures of hard-to-reach areas that could not 
easily be manually inspected. Railroads also frequently use drones 
after weather events to look for washouts, downed trees, misaligned 
track, and other conditions without risking the health and safety of 
employees. Sonar sends sound waves that bounce off the bridge piers and 
the ground surface below the water. Then, based on the nature of the 
echo, railroads determine whether there are any concerns with the 
stability of the bridge piers.

    Some of these new technologies work together under the ``automated 
track inspection'' (ATI) rubric to improve track inspection and allow 
railroads to gather massive amounts of data, analyze it for patterns 
and warning signs, and preventatively maintain their track. In some 
instances, ATI testing of track has resulted in more than a 90 percent 
reduction in the rate of unprotected main track defects found. 
Unfortunately, the FRA is preventing railroads from making the best use 
of this safety-enhancing technology.

    Question 3. Given the recent East Palestine toxic fire situation, 
Michigan's waters and Great Lakes are top of mind. Can you speak to the 
safety and environmental protocols you have worked to put in place near 
waterways, especially in the Great Lakes region to prevent a similar 
situation from occurring in Michigan.
    Answer. Safety is the foundation of everything the railroads do. 
Families deserve to feel safe within their communities, and railroads 
are steadfastly committed to taking solutions-oriented steps to prevent 
accidents from occurring. While 99.9% of all hazardous materials 
shipments reach their destination without incident, the less than .1% 
have the potential to dramatically impact communities, as highlighted 
by recent events in East Palestine, OH.
    On Wednesday, March, 8, AAR announced initials steps the industry 
was taking to reach zero accidents:
      Installing 1,000 new wayside detectors with an average 
spacing of 15 miles along most routes.
      Setting a new action threshold to stop trains and inspect 
bearings when temperatures exceed 170 degrees above ambient 
temperature.
      Expanding the use of trending analysis to reveal bearing 
problems before a temperature threshold is reached.
      Joining FRA's voluntary Close Call Reporting System 
(C3RS) to supplement Class I's own programs for confidential reporting 
of safety issues.
      Training 20,000 first responders in local communities 
across the country on accident prevention, response, and mitigation, 
and training 2,000 first responders at the Security & Emergency 
Response Training Center (SERTC) in Colorado.
      Expanding the use of AskRail by first responders through 
targeted outreach to emergency communication centers and state fire 
associations.
      Accelerating the work of the Tank Car Committee to 
investigate the use of heat-resistant gaskets for tanks transporting 
flammable liquid.

    These are just the first steps that railroads will take to improve 
the safety of the entire network and restore confidence that nothing is 
more important to the railroads than the safety of their employees, 
their customers, and the communities in which they operate.
    Data from the Federal Railroad Administration confirm that rail 
safety has improved substantially over the years. Much of this 
improvement has been achieved through significant and consistent 
investments back into the rail networks. From 1980 to 2022, freight 
railroads spent more than $780 billion of their own funds--more than 40 
cents out of every revenue dollar--on capital expenditures and 
maintenance expenses related to locomotives, freight cars, tracks, 
bridges, tunnels and other infrastructure and equipment to improve 
safety. Railroads will continue to make these investments going 
forward.
    Railroads want all their shipments to travel safely, and the vast 
majority do, but they have consistently taken concrete steps dedicated 
specifically to making hazmat transportation safer and hazmat accident 
response and mitigation more effective.
    For example, when an accident involving hazmat occurs, railroads 
follow strict protocols to protect nearby communities and waterways. 
They work closely with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the 
National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), relevant state and local 
authorities, and outside experts to contain the situation as quickly as 
possible; protect the health and safety of nearby residents and the 
environment; and remediate impacts. A variety of laws and their 
accompanying regulations give the EPA and other agencies a 
comprehensive framework to ensure that railroad hazmat spills are 
properly addressed.
    Railroads provide hazmat training to thousands of emergency 
responders each year to ensure local agencies have the information and 
training to prevent, respond to, and mitigate any rail accident. 
Railroads also provide thorough information to emergency response 
agencies on hazardous materials moving through their communities and 
equip train dispatchers and crews with information about hazmat on 
individual trains as well as contact lists for local emergency 
responders along a train's route. Railroads also provide hazmat 
awareness training to all employees who are involved in hazmat 
transportation. Rail employees responsible for emergency hazmat 
response efforts receive far more in-depth training. Railroads also 
have hazmat response contractors and environmental consultants on call 
24/7.
    As seen in East Palestine, railroads provide services like lodging, 
food, and environmental testing to those displaced by rail hazmat 
accidents and establish assistance centers and claims teams to assess 
and meet the needs of displaced community members. Railroads also 
reimburse local, state, and federal authorities for the costs 
associated with their response and cleanup efforts and will stay until 
the job is done.

 Question from Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton to Ian Jefferies, President 
     and Chief Executive Officer, Association of American Railroads

    Question 1. It is important to ensure that residential communities 
are not negatively impacted by train noise and vibrations. Last 
Congress, I introduced the Train Noise and Vibrations Reduction Act of 
2022 (H.R. 8338), which would direct the Department of Transportation 
to submit a report containing recommendations to reduce train noise and 
vibrations near homes.
    What additional steps does the industry plan to take to reduce or 
mitigate train noise and vibrations near homes?
    Answer. Railroads know that noise and vibrations can raise concerns 
in impacted communities. Railroads try to be good neighbors at all 
times, seek to minimize negative community impacts in all aspects of 
their operations, and maintain open communication with the communities 
in which they operate. However, as communities near rail lines and rail 
facilities expand, and as rail traffic patterns change, new challenges 
related to noise and other community impacts arise. Railroads are 
committed to working cooperatively with local officials and other 
stakeholders to address these challenges as effectively as possible.

 Questions from Hon. Donald M. Payne, Jr., to Ian Jefferies, President 
     and Chief Executive Officer, Association of American Railroads

    Question 1. Your testimony states that you've increased employment 
by nearly 10 percent and Mr. Regan's testimony states that the 
railroads cut employment by nearly one-third. The Surface 
Transportation Board Chair recently said that between April and 
September of 2022, the four big railroads added 420 total train and 
engine employees--an increase of less than 1 percent. While the 
railroads hired many more, almost the same number quit the railroad out 
of frustration.
    So, are you increasing the number of employees or are there less 
employees? Taking attrition into consideration, will you be increasing 
the number of railroad workers?
    Answer. The Surface Transportation Board collects a variety of data 
from Class I freight railroads, including the number of all rail 
employees in six job classification groups: executive, officials and 
staff assistants, professional and administrative, maintenance of way 
and structures, maintenance of equipment and stores, transportation 
other than train and engine, and transportation train and engine. These 
filings are prepared in accordance with STB regulations to ensure 
consistency among railroads, and data are based on actual payroll data. 
They are intended to include every person in the service of the 
reporting carrier and subject to its continuing authority. As such, 
they are net of attrition. The rail figures capture employment by job 
classification rather than union membership or benefit eligibility to 
ensure that those in unique circumstances are accurately counted.
    Based on the most recent of this STB data, Class I train and engine 
(T&E) employment in January 2023 was 50,313, up 9.9 percent (4,546 
employees) over January 2022. Total Class I employment in January 2023 
was 119,245, up 6.7 percent (7,491 employees) over January 2022.
    The number of rail employees tends to ebb and flow based on current 
and expected future rail traffic levels and other factors. Railroads 
are confident they will continue successfully recruiting the next 
generation of railroad workers to meet the nation's rail freight 
demand. Our employees deserve our thanks and appreciation for their 
sustained commitment to moving America's freight 24 hours a day, 365 
days a year and doing so at the highest level of safety. Without them, 
our industry would not exist.

    Question 2. Some have expressed concern that the Class I railroads' 
debt and associated annual interest costs have been increasing. Is this 
true and are you concerned that these increasing debt costs could 
impact the railroads' long-term viability?
    Answer. An in-depth examination of the financial condition of 
individual railroads (including the characteristics of their debt, 
associated interest costs, and related financial indicators) is beyond 
the scope of this response. However, for the Class I freight rail 
industry, debt currently does not appear to be a major concern.
    The table below shows inflation-adjusted annual interest charges, 
debt, operating revenue, and net income for Class I railroads combined 
from 2001 to 2021 (the most recent year for which data are available). 
Debt has been somewhat higher in recent years compared to the past, but 
annual interest charges have been comparable to what they've been for a 
decade and materially lower than historical levels.
    Interest charges as a percentage of debt in 2021 was 3.9 percent, 
the lowest it's been in the period studied. Interest charges as a 
percentage of operating revenue in 2021 was 1.5 percent, equal to its 
annual average from 2010-2021. Interest charges as a percentage of net 
income in 2021 was just 5.0 percent, easily the lowest for any year in 
the period studied.

                                                     U.S. Class I Freight Railroad Interest and Debt
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                                                                                 (millions of 2021 dollars)                  Interest Charges as % of
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                                Year                                   Interest                 Operating                           Operating     Net
                                                                       Charges        Debt       Revenue     Net Income     Debt     Revenue     Income
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2001...............................................................       $1,709      $22,311      $51,526       $4,083       7.7%       3.3%      41.9%
2002...............................................................       $1,672      $20,842      $51,838       $4,698       8.0%       3.2%      35.6%
2003...............................................................       $1,479      $20,873      $52,722       $3,866       7.1%       2.8%      38.2%
2004...............................................................       $1,545      $22,386      $56,779       $4,018       6.9%       2.7%      38.5%
2005...............................................................       $1,643      $21,508      $62,662       $6,680       7.6%       2.6%      24.6%
2006...............................................................       $1,516      $21,483      $68,739       $8,544       7.1%       2.2%      17.7%
2007...............................................................       $1,509      $21,527      $70,072       $8,723       7.0%       2.2%      17.3%
2008...............................................................       $1,393      $21,254      $77,118      $10,202       6.6%       1.8%      13.7%
2009...............................................................       $1,442      $22,122      $59,869       $8,036       6.5%       2.4%      17.9%
2010...............................................................       $1,538      $21,173      $71,913      $11,254       7.3%       2.1%      13.7%
2011...............................................................       $1,358      $19,496      $81,336      $13,178       7.0%       1.7%      10.3%
2012...............................................................       $1,175      $20,205      $83,092      $14,130       5.8%       1.4%       8.3%
2013...............................................................       $1,140      $20,987      $85,152      $15,654       5.4%       1.3%       7.3%
2014...............................................................         $939      $20,914      $89,078      $16,521       4.5%       1.1%       5.7%
2015...............................................................       $1,056      $23,468      $81,438      $16,434       4.5%       1.3%       6.4%
2016...............................................................       $1,121      $23,720      $73,943      $14,845       4.7%       1.5%       7.6%
2017...............................................................       $1,140      $23,117      $77,238      $15,882       4.9%       1.5%       7.2%
2018...............................................................       $1,185      $30,026      $82,084      $22,138       3.9%       1.4%       5.4%
2019...............................................................       $1,329      $31,170      $78,651      $21,799       4.3%       1.7%       6.1%
2020...............................................................       $1,214      $29,729      $69,016      $19,070       4.1%       1.8%       6.4%
2021...............................................................       $1,124      $28,786      $74,331      $22,492       3.9%       1.5%       5.0%
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 Interest charges include interest on funded and unfunded debt, plus contingent interest. Debt includes funded unmatured, equipment obligations,
  capitalized leases, accounts payable to affiliates, and long-term debt due within one year. Figures are for Class I railroads. Source: AAR compilation
  from railroad R-1 reports to STB.


    Question 3. According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, 
freight volumes are going up but freight railroad volumes are declining 
as a percentage of overall freight. Do the Class I railroads have plans 
to increase their market share?
    Answer. Freight railroads are invested in continuing to grow, help 
their customers prosper, and make our economy flourish. Today's U.S. 
freight transportation market is intensely competitive. Railroads are 
consistently working to increase productivity, keep customer rates low, 
invest in their networks, and improve service for their customers. 
Furthering the industry's competitiveness takes many forms, including:
      Keeping a focus on safety. The past decade has been the 
safest in rail history, and railroads continue to work diligently, in 
cooperation with policymakers, their employees, suppliers, and 
customers, to identify new technologies, operational enhancements, 
trainings, and other ways to further improve their safety record.
      Recognizing that capacity is key. Railroads have invested 
more than $780 billion on capital expenditures and maintenance on their 
networks since 1980 and well over $20 billion annually in recent years. 
These extensive investments will ensure our nation's freight rail 
infrastructure remains world-class and that adequate freight rail 
capacity exists to meet America's current and future freight 
transportation needs.
      Focusing on customer service. Railroads know their 
customers face intensely competitive global markets that increasingly 
demand faster, more reliable, and more cost-effective service. In 
response, railroads are continually launching new customer service 
initiatives and working together with rail suppliers, trucking 
companies, and other businesses to improve their service offerings.
      Enhancing sustainability. Freight rail is well ahead of 
other modes of transportation when it comes to limiting greenhouse gas 
emissions, increasing fuel efficiency, and reducing its carbon 
footprint. Today's railroads continue to leverage technology and 
modernize their operations to meet tomorrow's challenges, including 
improvements that increase efficiency and benefit the environment.
      Advocating for sound public policy. The rail industry has 
identified several key policies that are essential for maintaining and 
enhancing the safe, reliable service they provide to their customers, 
including maintaining the existing balanced regulatory structure 
covering rail rates and service; replacing the outdated regulatory 
framework for the development and incorporation of emerging 
technologies with one that fosters innovation while continuing to 
protect the public; maintaining regulatory modal equity; ameliorating 
other modal inequities related to infrastructure financing; and 
undertaking more rail-related public-private partnerships to help 
unlock key public benefits.

    Question 4. After the severe service problems of 2022, most of the 
railroads publicly stated plans to hire additional people but lately 
there have been reports that the railroads are scaling back plans to 
increase workforce. What are the freight railroads' plans to hire 
additional people in 2023? Will the overall number of employees 
increase, taking attrition into account?
    Answer. Individual railroads differ in terms of their hiring needs 
and intentions. It is clear, though, that a shortage of workers has, in 
some cases, hampered railroads' ability to provide the level of service 
they expect and that their customers deserve. Railroads are committed 
to continuing to recruit and retain the next generation of railroad 
workers to meet the nation's freight rail demand.
    It is also important to note that railroads are not immune to 
economic forces. As railroads strive to meet the transportation needs 
of our nation in the years ahead, they will continue to invest, 
innovate, and evolve. They will also continue to review employment 
policies to build more resilience into the system to better ride 
economic ups and downs. Railroad employees deserve thanks and 
appreciation for their sustained commitment to moving America's freight 
24/365 and doing so at the highest level of safety. Without them, the 
railroad industry would not exist or be able to meet the demands of the 
nation's economy.

 Questions from Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., to Ian Jefferies, 
    President and Chief Executive Officer, Association of American 
                               Railroads

    Question 1. Today, products are reaching American shores on time 
more often. However, companies are having trouble moving goods due to 
limited freight rail capacity. We just witnessed a showdown between 
rail workers and their employers at the beginning of December. It is 
safe to say we still have a lot of work to do in ensuring workers are 
adequately taken care of. Mid-career employees in the railroad industry 
have walked away from formerly good jobs and secure retirement due to 
deteriorating work conditions.
    Question 1.a. Do you believe that a lack of workers is one of the 
key factors in the supply chain issue we see before us today?
    Answer. Railroads play a major role in extremely complex global 
supply chains, working in coordination with steamship lines, truckers, 
ports, drayage providers, and owners of chassis, shipping containers, 
and warehouses, as well as manufacturers, wholesalers, and retailers of 
goods. To ensure freight is delivered safely, efficiently, and when 
expected, every stakeholder must do their part to maintain a consistent 
flow of freight and avoid bottlenecks. The vast majority of the time, 
railroads and other supply chain participants do just that.
    In addition, railroad employees tend to stay in railroad jobs far 
longer than other industries. In 2022, the average tenure at a railroad 
ranged from 19 to 13 years depending on the carrier. By comparison, the 
average tenure in most other industries is just 3.7 years, and the 
average tenure in transportation and warehousing industry alone is 
under four years. The idea that railroaders are leaving the industry en 
masse mid-career is simply not true.
    Over the past two years, railroads, along with virtually every 
other industry, have found that attracting and retaining enough 
employees to meet their needs has been a major challenge. The pandemic 
turned labor markets upside down, and railroads were not immune. When 
demand for rail service collapsed, railroads temporarily furloughed 
workers, a common method of managing changes in demand in the past. 
However, as demand surged faster than predicted fewer furloughed 
workers than anticipated chose to return to the industry for a variety 
of reasons. We now know that furlough policies must be carefully 
reviewed to build more resiliency into the system to better ride 
economic ups and downs.
    To this day, competition for workers remains fierce. Even as 
interest rates continue to rise, labor participation is high and hiring 
remains resilient. In February 2023, the national unemployment rate was 
3.6 percent, just above the historic lows seen in January 2023. In many 
key railroad states, the unemployment rate is even lower. The extremely 
tight labor market means railroads' single-biggest service-related 
challenge is finding and keeping employees. The good news is railroads 
are continuing to hire and train new employees and seeing our 
employment numbers grow. Railroads are working extremely hard to fill 
available openings through hiring bonuses, refer-a-friend payments, and 
other incentives for current employees like vacation buybacks and 
incentive payments to move to high-demand regions of the network
    Railroads are making substantial progress. The number of ``train 
and engine'' employees on Class I railroads--the men and women in the 
locomotive cabs operating trains--was the highest in January 2023 since 
March 2020. Individual railroads have hundreds of people in their 
training pipelines and are confident that workforce issues will become 
increasingly less troublesome in the months ahead. Moving forward from 
service-related concerns will depend in part on the industry 
appropriately staffing railroads with a well-trained and motivated 
workforce.

    Question 1.b. Seeing that railroads slashed roughly 30% of the 
workforce prior to Covid, it's clear that this lack of personnel is one 
of the key reasons why we are where we are today. Is there a plan in 
place that would revive the workforce and effectively improve working 
conditions for workers? How quickly can we expect to see results?
    Answer. The industry and its employees take great pride in the work 
that they do to move the nation's freight and support the U.S. economy. 
Rail jobs are, and always have been, good jobs. The historic agreements 
reached in the last bargaining round will make railroad jobs even more 
competitive. These agreements contain a 24 percent wage increase, the 
largest compensation increase seen in the industry in approximately 50 
years. They also maintain the railroads' platinum-level healthcare 
plans and provide additional paid time off for all represented rail 
workers. Separately, agreements with maintenance-of-way employees 
settle longstanding union concerns regarding travel expenses--their 
stated top priority from the onset of the round. Equally important are 
provisions in the agreement to create a more predictable work cadence 
for T&E employees. In fact, by the BLET's estimation, these provisions 
could result in up to 90 additional scheduled days off per year.
    The agreements also established a process and timeline for the 
railroads to work directly with the operating craft unions to make 
additional work rules changes this year that will enhance 
predictability and quality of life for those employees who currently 
have the least predictable schedules. Those negotiations are actively 
underway at the local level. To date, each of the Class I railroads has 
reached agreements for paid sick leave with several of their individual 
unions. The Class I railroads have committed to seeing these 
negotiations through and look forward to working with the operating 
craft unions to finish the job.

Question from Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., to Jeff Firth, Vice 
 President, Hamilton Construction Company, on behalf of the Associated 
                     General Contractors of America

    Question 1. We have seen extreme weather events--including 
wildfires, hurricanes, and severe flooding and storms--that have 
exacerbated pandemic-related challenges and the functioning of the 
supply chain. In Georgia heat waves hit relentlessly; the city of Macon 
reached 105 degrees in June of 2022, which is the highest temperature 
ever observed that early in the year.
    As a leader of a major construction company, how has climate change 
aggravated the current supply chain in relation to how your company 
operates, and how have you seen it affect other companies in your 
sector?
    Answer. There are a lot of factors and events--whether it is a 
cargo ship stuck in the Suez Canal, increasing fuel prices due to world 
events, or extreme weather events like you mention--that can cause 
unexpected supply chain disruptions and lead to material price 
volatility.
    For example, the extreme freeze that hit Texas in mid-February of 
2021 damaged or completely shut down all of the plants that supply the 
raw materials for all construction plastics. In addition, the freeze 
burst thousands of polyvinyl chloride (PVC) water pipes, thereby adding 
to demand.
    As a result of the supply chain disruptions, like the one in Texas, 
many infrastructure projects across the country have either been 
delayed or face the risk of significant delay or a reduction in scope. 
State DOTs have reported higher than expected bids on projects and as a 
result have scaled back on the number of projects which is why we have 
not been seeing an increase in projects as was expected.
    AGC believes that a coordinated, national strategy is necessary to 
build a more resilient future for the nation. That is why at AGC, we 
have undertaken several initiatives identified by various member-led 
task forces to identify the immediate and direct impacts of government 
climate policy on construction markets and other opportunities for 
construction firms.
    The task forces shared their findings and identified ways to 
partner with the government on this important issue in the future 
including preparations for electric vehicles, efficiency/traffic flow 
retrofits, and addition of climate resilience work as part of projects 
under consideration.
    We believe that we need to rebuild the nation's transportation 
system to be resilient to extreme weather events--however, in doing so, 
we must ensure that well-intentioned policies do not unnecessarily 
challenge our meeting that objective. At the end of the day, if we want 
a greener future, we have to build it.

 Question from Hon. John James to Roger Guenther, Executive Director, 
                              Port Houston

    Question 1. Mr. Guenther, I commend you for what you do. Our ports 
are so important and touch every facet of our way of life. Post COVID, 
what vulnerabilities remain in our supply chain and what strategy 
should our nation take to address these issues?
    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

Questions from Hon. Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford to Greg Regan, President, 
               Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO

    Question 1. Mr. Regan: During the hearing, you said, ``The trucking 
industry has complained about so-called workforce shortages, but the 
truth is they have slashed wages and benefits and made working 
conditions so bad that workers who would otherwise be interested in 
driving are simply looking elsewhere.''
    Question 1.a. Please provide the data supporting your position that 
the trucking industry has ``slashed wages''
    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

    Question 1.b. Please provide the data that the trucking industry 
has done the same for benefits
    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

    Question 1.c. Please provide the data supporting your assertion 
that ``workers who would otherwise be interested in driving are simply 
looking elsewhere''
    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

    Question 2. Truck drivers make good salaries, with truckload 
drivers earning a median amount of $69,687 per year plus benefits, 
according to the American Trucking Associations industry survey for 
2021.\1\ This is an 18 percent increase from 2019.\2\
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    \1\ 2022 ATA Driver Compensation Study Executive Summary, June 30, 
2022. Available online at: https://ata.msgfocus.com/files/
amf_highroad_solution/project_2358/ATA_2022_Driver_
Compensation_Study_-_Press_Executive_Summary.pdf (accessed February 7, 
2023).
    \2\ Id.
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    Question 2.a. Do you disagree with these data?
    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

    Question 2.b. Additionally, recent data from the Bureau of Labor 
Statistics on weekly earnings in the long-haul trucking sector show 
that average earnings are almost $1,200 per week or over $62,000 when 
annualized.\3\ The trend line from January 2020 shows significant 
increases. How do you square these data with your assertion that the 
trucking industry has slashed wages?
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    \3\ Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment 
Statistics survey (National), Average weekly earnings of production and 
nonsupervisory employees, general freight trucking, long-distance tl, 
seasonally adjusted, U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor 
Statistics, September 2022.
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    Answer. A response was not received at the time of publication.

  Questions from Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., to Greg Regan, 
          President, Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO

    Question 1. We hear my friends on the other side of the aisle say 
they are committed to remedying the supply chain crisis. However, upon 
President Biden's inauguration, we saw Republicans on the Senate side 
hold up key nominations to the President's administration. Nominations 
that, if not for partisan games, could have been helping with the 
supply chain issues.
    Question 1.a. What effect would you say that holds on DOT nominees 
had and continue to have on the supply chain?
    Answer. Partisan obstruction of DOT nominees isn't just political 
gamesmanship--it has crippled our ability to fix the broken supply 
chain. While railroads, trucking firms, and ports struggled with 
backlogs, delays, and worker shortages, Republicans in Congress stalled 
leadership confirmations for an average of 121 days--twice the 
historical norm. This wasn't an accident; it was a deliberate effort to 
undermine the administration's ability to enforce accountability and 
implement solutions.
      Leadership Vacuums Meant Delayed Action: Without 
confirmed DOT leaders, federal agencies couldn't move swiftly to cut 
red tape, distribute funds, and hold bad actors accountable.
      Corporate Profiteering Thrived in Chaos: Railroads and 
shipping companies used this dysfunction as cover to hike fees, 
shortchange workers, and push reckless cost-cutting policies like 
Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR).

    Question 1.b. In your testimony, you stated ``Many of the supply 
chain challenges are due to harmful employer practices driven not to 
increase efficiency or deliver better service but purely out of 
greed.'' Can you speak further into these practices?
    Answer. America's rail system is a case study in what happens when 
Wall Street greed is allowed to run unchecked. Class I railroads have 
gutted their workforce, slashed maintenance time, and squeezed workers 
all in the name of shareholder profits. They cut 41% of their 
mechanical workforce since 2015, stretched trains to 2-3 miles long, 
and forced inspectors to rush safety checks down to just one minute per 
railcar.
      Safety Is an Afterthought to Profits: These reckless 
cost-cutting measures led directly to the East Palestine disaster--a 
preventable catastrophe caused by deferred maintenance and impossible 
workloads.
      Rail Workers Are Speaking Out, But CEOs Aren't Listening: 
Trained carmen are being replaced by underqualified workers, and 
inspectors who flag unsafe conditions are pressured to stay silent or 
face retaliation.
      PSR Is a Scam, Not Efficiency: PSR was sold as a way to 
``streamline'' operations, but in reality, it's a Wall Street scheme 
that gutted the workforce, overburdened remaining employees, and led to 
more breakdowns, delays, and derailments.

    Question 1.c. We see a lack of minorities, including women and 
people of color in the commercial trucking industry. Could these 
harmful employer practices you speak of be what's keeping so many 
minorities out? How can working conditions be strengthened to improve 
the workforce moving forward?
    Answer. The trucking industry doesn't have a driver shortage--it 
has a shortage of good jobs. Instead of offering decent wages, 
predictable schedules, and basic benefits, major carriers rely on a 
churn-and-burn model that exploits workers and repels women and people 
of color.
      Systemic Discrimination in Pay & Treatment: Black and 
Latino drivers are routinely pushed into lower-paying jobs, like port 
drayage, while white drivers dominate the highest-earning long-haul 
routes.
      The Solution Is Simple-Treat Drivers Like the Essential 
Workers They Are: We don't need gimmicks. We need policies that 
guarantee fair pay, real benefits, and enforceable labor protections.

  Questions from Hon. Donald M. Payne, Jr., to Greg Regan, President, 
               Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO

    Question 1. After years of cutting their workforce, the Class I 
railroads say they plan to hire additional frontline workers. At the 
same time, some Class I railroads have reduced the duration of 
conductor training, including one Class I railroad that, according to 
FRA data, had three conductors with less than a year of service (newly 
trained conductors) suffer amputations in separate occurrences in 2021. 
Do your members feel they are being sufficiently trained? Do you think 
this will have a safety impact?
    Answer. Recent deaths and serious injuries prove that railroads are 
cutting corners on training to save money. New conductors are thrown 
into the field with almost no real instruction, and some are even being 
``trained'' by workers who themselves have less than a year of 
experience. This is dangerous, reckless, and entirely avoidable.
      Three Preventable Amputations in 2021: These weren't 
accidents--they were the direct result of railroads pushing 
inexperienced workers into high-risk roles without proper training.
      FRA's 2023 Safety Bulletin Is a Wake-Up Call: The FRA 
explicitly warned railroads in August 2023 that rushed, low-quality 
training programs are endangering lives--but so far, rail CEOs have 
done nothing to change course.

    Question 2. On February 3, 2023, a Norfolk Southern train measuring 
9,309 feet, and 17,977 tons derailed in East Palestine, Ohio. The 
train, carrying vinyl chloride and other hazardous materials, derailed 
50 cars resulting in fire and smoke that persisted for days, evacuation 
of nearby communities in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and air and water 
quality monitoring. To prevent catastrophic failure and rupture, 
Norfolk Southern manually released product from several cars carrying 
vinyl chloride on February 6.
    National Transportation Safety Board Member Graham stated at a 
press conference that investigators obtained two videos that 
preliminarily show indications of mechanical issues on one of the rail 
car axles. He also stated that the train's three-person operating crew 
received an alarm from a wayside defect detector indicating a 
mechanical issue shortly before derailment, followed by initiation of 
an emergency brake application.
    TTD's affiliate unions have told this committee that the Class I 
railroads have cut their mechanical workforces sharply, reduced the 
amount of time mechanics inspect cars, pressured workers not to remove 
cars from service for repairs, and replaced qualified inspectors with 
workers without specialized training. Are you concerned that such 
actions may have contributed to an accident such as the February 3 
derailment in East Palestine, Ohio?
    Answer. This disaster wasn't an anomaly--it was the inevitable 
outcome of railroads prioritizing Wall Street over public safety. Class 
I railroads have cut 28% of staff (2011-2021) while stretching train 
lengths to three miles or more. Mechanical workforce cuts left 1,000 
non-compliant locomotives at BNSF alone, and untrained contractors were 
used instead of skilled inspectors. Railroad executives knew the risks, 
but they gambled with public safety anyway.
      They Cut Safety First, and the Public Paid the Price: 
Railroads eliminated crucial inspection jobs, forcing remaining workers 
to rush through safety checks--or risk being fired.
      FRA & DOT Have the Evidence--Now Congress Must Act: 
Investigations confirm that railroad executives systematically delayed 
repairs, ignored maintenance warnings, and pressured inspectors to cut 
corners.

    Question 3. According to the Surface Transportation Board, during 
the last two and a half years, the Class Is have returned nearly $60 
billion to shareholders in stock buy backs and dividends. That is more 
than 12 times what they saved in payroll by cutting 13,000 employees 
over the same time period. How would having additional employees help 
the railroads address supply chain demands?
    Answer. Class I railroads funneled $60 billion to shareholders in 
just two years while cutting 13,000 workers. Let's be clear--this money 
could have gone toward safety improvements, better wages, and 
infrastructure upgrades. Instead, it was pocketed by executives and 
hedge funds.
      Stock Buybacks Instead of Brake Upgrades: Instead of 
investing in safer braking technology or fixing aging infrastructure, 
railroads prioritized inflating their stock prices.
      CEO Pay Skyrocketed While Rail Workers Were Laid Off: 
Between 2015 and 2022, railroad CEO compensation rose by 150%, while 
frontline workers' pay remained stagnant.

    Question 4. Do Federal Railroad Administration regulations 
governing track inspection prohibit the simultaneous use of autonomous 
track inspection technology and visual track inspections?
    Answer. Rail CEOs want autonomous inspection technology to replace 
human inspectors--not to improve safety, but to cut jobs and maximize 
profits. The FRA allows automated track inspections, but it still 
requires qualified human inspectors to verify and act on the data. Yet, 
railroads are lobbying to weaken even this basic requirement.
      Loopholes Are Already Being Exploited: Some Class I 
railroads are seeking waivers to reduce the frequency of human 
inspections, despite clear evidence that automation alone is not 
sufficient.
      Deregulation Here Is a Death Sentence: Cutting human 
oversight means more derailments, more deaths, and more public 
disasters like East Palestine. Congress must act before it's too late.

                                 * * *

                          Key Recommendations
      Ban Precision Scheduled Railroading (PSR) metrics that 
force safety compromises.
      Mandate minimum staffing levels for mechanical and 
training roles.
      Expand whistleblower protections so workers can report 
safety violations without retaliation.
      Cap train lengths at safe, manageable limits--before the 
next East Palestine happens.
      Mandate real-time transparency on rail safety data--
because right now, railroads are hiding the truth.

    The bottom line is simple: Wall Street shouldn't run our railroads. 
We need real safety reforms now.

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