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                   FROM DRUG INTERDICTIONS IN THE CARIBBEAN 
                    TO NATIONAL SECURITY PATROLS IN THE 
                    ARCTIC: EXAMINING U.S. COAST GUARD'S ROLE 
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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY

                 Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee, Chairman
Michael T. McCaul, Texas             Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi, 
Clay Higgins, Louisiana                  Ranking Member
Michael Guest, Mississippi           Eric Swalwell, California
Dan Bishop, North Carolina           J. Luis Correa, California
Carlos A. Gimenez, Florida           Troy A. Carter, Louisiana
August Pfluger, Texas                Shri Thanedar, Michigan
Andrew R. Garbarino, New York        Seth Magaziner, Rhode Island
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia      Glenn Ivey, Maryland
Tony Gonzales, Texas                 Daniel S. Goldman, New York
Nick LaLota, New York                Robert Garcia, California
Mike Ezell, Mississippi              Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Anthony D'Esposito, New York         Robert Menendez, New Jersey
Laurel M. Lee, Florida               Thomas R. Suozzi, New York
Morgan Luttrell, Texas               Timothy M. Kennedy, New York
Dale W. Strong, Alabama              Yvette D. Clarke, New York
Josh Brecheen, Oklahoma
Elijah Crane, Arizona
                      Stephen Siao, Staff Director
                  Hope Goins, Minority Staff Director
                       Sean Corcoran, Chief Clerk
                           
                           C O N T E N T S

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                               Statements

Honorable Mark E. Green, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of Tennessee, and Chairman, Committee on Homeland 
  Security:
  Oral Statement.................................................     1
  Prepared Statement.............................................     3
Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress From 
  the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on 
  Homeland Security:
  Oral Statement.................................................     5
  Prepared Statement.............................................     7

                                Witness

Admiral Linda L. Fagan, Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard:
  Oral Statement.................................................     8
  Prepared Statement.............................................    10

 
 FROM DRUG INTERDICTIONS IN THE CARIBBEAN TO NATIONAL SECURITY PATROLS 
   IN THE ARCTIC: EXAMINING U.S. COAST GUARD'S ROLE IN SECURING THE 
                                HOMELAND

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                        Thursday, July 24, 2024

             U.S. House of Representatives,
                    Committee on Homeland Security,
                                            Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:02 a.m., in 
room 310, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Carlos A. Gimenez 
[Acting Chairman of the committee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Gimenez, Greene, Gonzales, Ezell, 
Luttrell, Strong, Brecheen, Crane, Thompson, Carter, Thanedar, 
Magaziner, and Menendez.
    Mr. Gimenez. The Committee on Homeland Security will come 
to order. Without objection, the Chair may declare the 
committee in recess at any point. The purpose of this hearing 
is to examine the United States Coast Guard's role in securing 
the homeland.
    I now recognize myself for an opening statement. Maritime 
trade is the engine of global commerce. A robust military 
presence on the high seas is essential to deter piracy and 
adversarial states ensuring this engine that runs smoothly.
    The 17th Century English explorer, Sir Walter Raleigh, once 
wrote, ``Whoever commands the sea commands the trade; whoever 
commands the trade of the world commands the riches of the 
world, and consequently the world itself.''
    Controlling the high seas has empowered nations throughout 
history, from Phoenicia and Athens to the Dutch Republic and 
the British Empire. This is true today just as much as it was 
thousands of years ago, yet the threat landscape facing our 
country grows increasingly complex with every passing year.
    Cartels and smugglers, they exploit blind spots along our 
massive maritime border to ensure to traffic people and 
narcotics into our country. The People's Republic of China, the 
Russian Federation, and other geopolitical adversaries contest 
our laws and international norms through gray zone actions at 
sea.
    Nation-states and non-nation actors increasingly utilize 
cyber space to attack, disrupt, and degrade our port 
infrastructure and the maritime transportation system that our 
economy depends on. That is why the United States must 
prioritize its ability to enforce laws, hold bad actors 
accountable, and protect life at sea.
    During my time I learned--during time at West Point it is 
taught the importance of tailoring strategy to appropriately 
address the specific characteristics of each situation. 
Therefore, the United States Coast Guard is unique in its role 
in protecting our homeland and upholding our national 
sovereignty.
    With its 11 statutory missions, the Coast Guard is a 
multifaceted actor that can conduct law enforcement missions, 
support the intelligence community, and build and maintain 
international partnerships. From the Gulf of Mexico to the 
Straits of Florida, from the Persian Gulf to the Bering Strait, 
and from the Western Pacific to the Eastern Seaboard, Coast 
Guard personnel operate surface, air, and unmanned assets, 
performing critical national security missions.
    The Coast Guard performs exceptionally well in the most 
challenging environments on Earth and the demands for Coast 
Guard services at home and abroad is only increasing.
    Unfortunately, the Coast Guard has critical manpower and 
asset needs in order to meet this growing demand. In the 
Caribbean, the Coast Guard is under severe pressure to 
interdict the massive waves of illegal immigrants leaving scant 
resources for counternarcotics missions. This allows cartel 
activity to go unchecked.
    In its partnership-building work with Pacific nations, the 
Coast Guard does not have enough people to maintain a 
consistent presence in areas where the PRC is poised to seize 
the initiative and impose its will upon smaller states that 
lack the means and governance structures to push back.
    Like most of the military, the Coast Guard is struggling to 
recruit enough personnel to fulfill its complex missions. Last 
year the Coast Guard told Congress that they had missed their 
recruiting goals for the previous 4 years and earlier this year 
Coast Guard officials stated that they were short nearly 2,500 
people. Ensuring that more high-quality individuals enlist and 
commission in the Coast Guard will provide the Service with the 
personnel necessary to carry out its broad missions at home and 
across the globe.
    The Coast Guard is also in the process of replacing some of 
its aging surface and air assets, some of which have been in 
service since World War II. Of particular importance is the 
Polar Security Cutter, or the PSC, program, which will deliver 
3 new heavy polar icebreakers to replace the Coast Guard's lone 
operational heavy icebreaker, which was commissioned nearly 50 
years ago.
    With Russia and the PRC challenging U.S. sovereignty in the 
Arctic and Antarctic, the United States must maintain a 
credible, persistent presence in the polar regions. During the 
past year-and-a-half our committee has heard from several Coast 
Guard officials about the multitude of threats, the unique 
capabilities the Coast Guard has to respond to these threats, 
and the pressing needs of the Service to ensure that they have 
the capacity to do so.
    Thinking about the Service's current situation I am 
especially concerned about the systemic issues that threaten to 
undermine the Coast Guard's ability to fulfill its statutory 
mission requirements and protect the homeland. The Coast Guard 
has experienced major problems in administering its acquisition 
programs. For instance, the PSC program was initially supposed 
to have delivered the first cutter by this year, yet 
construction of the first ship has not even begun.
    Additionally, according to a Congressional Budget Office 
cost estimate that Transportation and Maritime Security 
Subcommittee that I chair and was requested by the Chair of the 
committee, the PSC program's cost will be almost 60 percent 
higher than the Coast Guard's current estimate. These 
shortcomings ultimately hinder the Coast Guard's ability to 
maintain a sufficient presence in critical mission areas.
    Regarding personnel, the Coast Guard has severely damaged 
its standing with its handling of Operation Fouled Anchor and 
the wider issue of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and 
retaliation within the Service's ranks.
    While I appreciate the on-going efforts to address the 
issues, the Coast Guard must earn back the trust of its service 
members and the American public. It is long past time for more 
accountability and an overhaul the Coast Guard's service 
culture.
    In closing, the Coast Guard ensures that the United States 
can meet any maritime threat from criminal activity to nation-
state aggression with appropriate and decisive force. To 
reiterate Sir Walter's words, ``Control of the high seas 
enables our nation's prosperity and security.'' We must 
prioritize the mission of the Coast Guard. Our homeland 
security depends on it.
    I thank our witness, the commandant of the Coast Guard 
Admiral Linda Fagan, for appearing before the committee today, 
and I look forward to her testimony.
    [The statement of Chairman Green follows:]
               Statement of Chairman Mark E. Green, M.D.
                             July 24, 2024
    Maritime trade is the engine of global commerce.
    A robust military presence on the high seas is essential to deter 
piracy and adversarial states, ensuring this engine runs smoothly.
    The 17th Century English explorer Sir Walter Raleigh once wrote, 
``Whoever commands the sea commands the trade; whoever commands the 
trade of the world commands the riches of the world, and consequently 
the world itself.''
    Control of the high seas has empowered nations throughout history, 
from Phoenicia and Athens to the Dutch Republic and the British Empire.
    This is true today just as much as it was thousands of years ago.
    Yet the threat landscape facing our country grows increasingly 
complex with every passing year.
    Cartels and smugglers exploit blind spots along our massive 
maritime border to traffic people and narcotics into our country.
    The People's Republic of China, the Russian Federation, and other 
geopolitical adversaries contest our laws and international norms 
through gray zone actions at sea.
    Nation-states and non-state actors increasingly utilize cyber space 
to attack, disrupt, and degrade our port infrastructure and the 
maritime transportation system that our economy depends on.
    That is why the United States must prioritize its ability to 
enforce laws, hold bad actors accountable, and protect life at sea.
    During my time at West Point, I learned the importance of tailoring 
strategy to appropriately address the specific characteristics of each 
situation.
    Therefore, I understand the United States Coast Guard's unique role 
in protecting our homeland and upholding our national sovereignty.
    With its 11 statutory missions, the Coast Guard is a multifaceted 
actor that can conduct law enforcement missions, support the 
intelligence community, and build and maintain international 
partnerships.
    From the Gulf of Mexico to the Straits of Florida, from the Persian 
Gulf to the Bering Strait, and from the Western Pacific to the Eastern 
Seaboard, Coast Guard personnel operate surface, air, and unmanned 
assets performing critical national security missions.
    The Coast Guard performs exceptionally well in the most challenging 
environments on earth, and the demand for Coast Guard services at home 
and abroad is only increasing.
    Unfortunately, the Coast Guard has critical manpower and asset 
needs in order to meet this growing demand.
    In the Caribbean, the Coast Guard is under severe pressure to 
interdict the massive waves of illegal immigrants, leaving scant 
resources for counter-narcotics missions.
    This allows cartel activity to go unchecked.
    In its partnership-building work with Pacific nations, the Coast 
Guard does not have enough people to maintain a consistent presence in 
areas where the PRC is poised to seize the initiative and impose its 
will upon smaller states that lack the means and governance structures 
to push back.
    Like most of the military, the Coast Guard is struggling to recruit 
enough personnel to fulfill its complex missions.
    Last year, the Coast Guard told Congress that they had missed their 
recruiting goals for the previous 4 years, and earlier this year Coast 
Guard officials stated that they were short nearly 2,500 people.
    Ensuring that more high-quality individuals enlist and commission 
in the Coast Guard will provide the service with the personnel 
necessary to carry out its broad mission at home and across the globe.
    The Coast Guard is also in the process of replacing some of its 
aging surface and air assets, some of which have been in service since 
World War II.
    Of particular importance is the Polar Security Cutter, or PSC, 
program, which will deliver 3 new heavy polar icebreakers to replace 
the Coast Guard's lone operational heavy icebreaker, which was 
commissioned nearly 50 years ago.
    With Russia and the PRC challenging U.S. sovereignty in the Arctic 
and Antarctic, the United States must maintain a credible, persistent 
presence in the polar regions.
    During the past year-and-a-half, our committee has heard from 
several Coast Guard officials about the multitude of threats, the 
unique capabilities the Coast Guard has to respond to these threats, 
and the pressing needs of the service to ensure they have the capacity 
to do so.
    In thinking about the service's current situation, I am especially 
concerned about the systemic issues that threaten to undermine the 
Coast Guard's ability to fulfill its statutory mission requirements and 
protect the homeland.
    The Coast Guard has experienced major problems in administering its 
acquisition programs.
    For instance, the PSC program was initially supposed to have 
delivered the first cutter by this year, yet construction on the first 
ship has not even begun.
    Additionally, according to a Congressional Budget Office cost 
estimate that Transportation and Maritime Security Subcommittee 
Chairman Carlos Gimenez and I requested last year, the PSC program's 
cost will be almost 60 percent higher than the Coast Guard's current 
estimate.
    These shortcomings ultimately hinder the Coast Guard's ability to 
maintain a sufficient presence in critical mission areas.
    Regarding personnel, the Coast Guard has severely damaged its 
standing with its handling of Operation Fouled Anchor and the wider 
issue of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and retaliation within the 
service's ranks.
    While I appreciate the on-going efforts to address the issues, the 
Coast Guard must earn back the trust of its service members and the 
American public.
    It is long past time for more accountability and an overhaul of the 
Coast Guard's service culture.
    In closing, the Coast Guard ensures the United States can meet any 
maritime threat, from criminal activity to nation-state aggression, 
with appropriate and decisive force.
    To reiterate Sir Walter's words--control of the high seas enables 
our Nation's prosperity and security.
    We must prioritize the mission of the Coast Guard--our homeland 
security depends on it.
    I thank our witness, the Commandant of the Coast Guard Admiral 
Linda Fagan, for appearing before the committee today, and I look 
forward to your testimony.

    Mr. Gimenez. I now recognize the Ranking Member, the 
gentleman from Mississippi, Mr. Thompson, for his opening 
statement.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Welcome to our witness, Admiral Fagan.
    Let me say that the flowers here represent a tragic loss 
for this committee, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee of 
Houston, Texas. As people have said yesterday and continue to 
say, she is a fierce advocate, or was a fierce advocate, for 
her community and she will be missed, not just by constituents, 
but also by this committee.
    Again, welcome, Admiral Fagan. We are glad to have you. We 
are here today at a critical time for the Coast Guard. To 
ensure the safety, security, and stewardship of our Nation's 
waters, the Coast Guard is charged with carrying out a wide 
range of important missions. Its activities include everything 
from disrupting transnational crime in the Caribbean to search-
and-rescue efforts off our shores to addressing the impact of 
human activity in the polar regions as ice caps recede.
    Successfully achieving all that the Coast Guard is called 
upon to do has never been so complex. The threat of global 
adversaries, the impact of climate change, and an increase in 
illegal fishing pose significant challenges to the Coast 
Guard's mission. The Coast Guard must have a work force and 
fleet of unparalleled strength and readiness to meet this 
moment.
    Yet we have learned that in the past the Coast Guard has 
not always treated its work force with respect, fairness, and 
transparency that it deserves. In fact, the Service has 
actively covered up assaults and discrimination. Through the 
Operation Fouled Anchor investigation we learned that the Coast 
Guard improperly handled dozens of allegations of sexual 
assault at the Coast Guard Academy over the course of 2 
decades.
    The Coast Guard allowed individuals accused of rape and 
other sexual assaults to avoid criminal investigation. 
Administrative punishments, if they happened at all, were as 
minor as extra work or lower class standing. As a result, some 
of the accused ascended to top roles within the Coast Guard and 
other branches of the military.
    The Coast Guard inaction led to many victims leaving the 
academy after reporting their assaults, ending their hopes of a 
career in the Service. The Coast Guard failed to protect its 
own people and the damage caused is truly incalculable.
    My heart goes out to every survivor who the Coast Guard 
failed to protect and my gratitude goes to those who have 
bravely shared those stories with investigators, reporters, 
Members of Congress, and the public.
    The Coast Guard compounded the deep betrayal of its service 
members' trust by failing to fully and transparently disclose 
the results of its investigation to Congress, the public, or 
even the victims involved. I am particularly disturbed that the 
Coast Guard withheld information on Operation Fouled Anchor 
from this committee, given our concurrent investigation under 
my chairmanship into harassment, bullying, retaliation, and 
mismanaged investigation at the Coast Guard Academy. That 
investigation, which I led with my late colleague Oversight 
Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings, included voluminous 
document requests, transcribed interviews with multiple Coast 
Guard senior leaders, and a joint committee hearing.
    In addition, former Commandant Karl Schultz testified 
before this committee at a hearing in 2021 on the Coast Guard's 
culture and a need for accountability for misconduct. 
Throughout this period, the committee specifically asked the 
Coast Guard about sexual assaults at the academy, investigative 
processes, and whether Coast Guard leaders had actively covered 
up failures within the Service. Yet at no point did the Coast 
Guard provide us information about Operation Fouled Anchor 
until CNN began reporting on it last year.
    Documents provided by the Coast Guard to the committee show 
that the Coast Guard leaders considered our investigation into 
the issues at the academy in deciding whether to disclose the 
Operation Fouled Anchor to Congress and still chose to hide the 
information. Admiral Schultz did not discuss it in our June 
2021 hearing focused on the culture of the Coast Guard, nor did 
he raise it with me when we met privately on relevant topics. 
The Coast Guard's failure to disclose Operation Fouled Anchor 
in the face of the committee's oversight can only be described 
as deliberate and deceitful.
    I recognize that the Department of Homeland Security's 
inspector general's investigation into the Coast Guard action 
is on-going, but I want to be clear. I expect those responsible 
for orchestrating this cover-up to be held accountable. It is 
imperative that the Coast Guard restore trust with its work 
force, Congress, and the public by changing the culture that 
allowed these events to occur and ensuring that they never 
happen again.
    The Coast Guard rebuilding trust with its work force is all 
the more important because as with all our military branches 
the Coast Guard is facing a work force shortage. The Government 
Accountability Office reported last spring that Coast Guard was 
more than 4,000 members short and had missed recruiting targets 
over a number of years.
    Though the Coast Guard has taken actions to address this 
work force shortage, including providing hiring bonuses to new 
recruits, more needs to be done. Today, I hope to learn how 
Congress can support Coast Guard recruitment and retention.
    Finally, the Coast Guard's physical assets, its fleet and 
shore infrastructure, are aging and in need of replacement and 
repair. Despite the strategic importance of the Arctic region, 
the Coast Guard has only one heavy polar icebreaker and one 
medium icebreaker. Both are decades old yet the rollout of new 
icebreakers is delayed.
    The Coast Guard also faces an enormous backlog of shore 
infrastructure improvements. In 2019, the Government 
Accountability Office reported it would take the Coast Guard 
395 years to address its backlog of maintenance and 
construction projects absent increased funding. The bipartisan 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act signed by President 
Biden in 2021 provided the Coast Guard with $429 million to 
address the backlog, but more is needed.
    While I applaud Coast Guard's practice of making do with 
its available resources, I also know that Congress can help. 
One of the issues I have discussed today, rebuilding trust, 
increasing the work force, and updating an aging work fleet and 
infrastructure portfolio, will be quickly or easily addressed.
    Solutions will require the full attention and commitment of 
leadership, buy-in from the Coast Guard work force, and 
resources from Congress. I hope to hear from you today how the 
Coast Guard can meet the moment, address its challenges, and 
remain always ready.
    With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    [The statement of Ranking Member Thompson follows:]
             Statement of Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson
                             July 24, 2024
    We are here today at a critical time for the Coast Guard. To ensure 
the safety, security, and stewardship of our Nation's waters, the Coast 
Guard is charged with carrying out a wide range of important missions. 
Its activities include everything from disrupting transnational crime 
in the Caribbean to search-and-rescue efforts off our shores, to 
addressing the impact of human activity in the polar regions as ice 
caps recede.
    Successfully achieving all that the Coast Guard is called upon to 
do has never been so complex. The threat of global adversaries, the 
impact of climate change, and an increase in illegal fishing pose 
significant challenges to Coast Guard's mission.
    The Coast Guard must have a workforce and fleet of unparalleled 
strength and readiness to meet this moment. Yet, we have learned that 
in the past, the Coast Guard has not always treated its workforce with 
the respect, fairness, or transparency it deserves. In fact, the 
service has actively covered up assaults and discrimination.
    Through the Operation Fouled Anchor investigation, we learned that 
the Coast Guard improperly handled dozens of allegations of sexual 
assault at the Coast Guard Academy over the course of 2 decades. The 
Coast Guard allowed individuals accused of rape and other sexual 
assaults to avoid criminal investigation. Administrative punishments, 
if they happened at all, were as minor as extra homework or lowered 
class standings.
    As a result, some of the accused ascended to top roles within the 
Coast Guard and other branches of the military. The Coast Guard's 
inaction led to many victims leaving the Academy after reporting their 
assaults, ending their hopes of a career in the service. The Coast 
Guard failed to protect its own people, and the damage caused is truly 
incalculable.
    My heart goes out to every survivor who the Coast Guard failed to 
protect, and my gratitude goes to those who have bravely shared their 
stories with investigators, reporters, Congress, and the public.
    The Coast Guard compounded the deep betrayal of its Service 
members' trust by failing to fully and transparently disclose the 
results of its investigation to Congress, the public, or even the 
victims involved. I am particularly disturbed that the Coast Guard 
withheld information on Operation Fouled Anchor from this committee 
given our concurrent investigation under my chairmanship into 
harassment, bullying, retaliation, and mismanaged investigations at the 
Coast Guard Academy.
    That investigation--which I led with my late colleague, Oversight 
Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings--included voluminous document 
requests, transcribed interviews with multiple Coast Guard senior 
leaders, and a joint committee hearing.
    In addition, former Commandant Karl Schultz testified before this 
committee at a hearing in 2021 on the Coast Guard's culture and the 
need for accountability for misconduct. Throughout this period, this 
committee specifically asked the Coast Guard about sexual assaults at 
the Academy, investigative processes, and whether Coast Guard leaders 
had actively covered up failures within the service. Yet at no point 
did the Coast Guard provide us information about Operation Fouled 
Anchor until CNN began reporting on it last year.
    Documents provided by the Coast Guard to the committee show that 
Coast Guard leaders considered our investigation into issues at the 
Academy in deciding whether to disclose Operation Fouled Anchor to 
Congress--and still chose to hide the information. Admiral Schultz did 
not discuss it at our June 2021 hearing focused on the culture of the 
Coast Guard, nor did he raise it with me when we met privately on 
relevant topics.
    The Coast Guard's failure to disclose Operation Fouled Anchor in 
the face of this committee's oversight can only be described as 
deliberate and deceitful.
    I recognize that the Department of Homeland Security Inspector 
General's investigation into the Coast Guard's actions is on-going, but 
I want to be clear: I expect those responsible for orchestrating this 
cover-up to be held accountable. It is imperative that the Coast Guard 
restore trust with its workforce, Congress, and the public by changing 
the culture that allowed these events to occur and ensuring they never 
occur again.
    The Coast Guard rebuilding trust with its workforce is all the more 
important because--as with all military branches--the Coast Guard is 
facing a workforce shortage. The Government Accountability Office 
reported last spring that Coast Guard was more than 4,000 members short 
and had missed recruiting targets over a number of years. Though the 
Coast Guard has taken actions to address this workforce shortage, 
including providing hiring bonuses to new recruits, more needs to be 
done.
    Today I hope to learn how Congress can support Coast Guard 
recruitment and retention.
    Finally, the Coast Guard's physical assets--its fleet and shore 
infrastructure--are aging and in need of replacement and repair.
    Despite the strategic importance of the Arctic region, the Coast 
Guard has only 1 heavy polar icebreaker and 1 medium icebreaker. Both 
are decades old, yet the rollout of new icebreakers is delayed.
    The Coast Guard also faces an enormous backlog of shore 
infrastructure improvements. In 2019, the Government Accountability 
Office reported it would take the Coast Guard 395 years to address its 
backlog of maintenance and construction projects, absent increased 
funding. The Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act signed 
by President Biden in 2021 provided the Coast Guard $429 million to 
address the backlog. But more is needed. While I applaud Coast Guard's 
practice of ``making do'' with its available resources, I also know 
that Congress can help.
    None of the issues I have discussed today--rebuilding trust, 
increasing the workforce, and updating an aging fleet and 
infrastructure portfolio--will be quickly or easily addressed. 
Solutions will require the full attention and commitment of leadership, 
buy-in from the Coast Guard workforce, and resources from Congress. I 
hope to hear from you today how the Coast Guard can meet the moment, 
address its challenges, and remain always ready.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the Ranking Member.
    Other Members of the committee are reminded that opening 
statements may be submitted for the record.
    I am pleased to have Admiral Fagan, the Commandant of the 
United States Coast Guard, testify before us today. I ask that 
our witness please rise and raise your right hand.
    [Witness sworn.]
    Mr. Gimenez. Let the record reflect that the witness has 
answered in the affirmative. Thank you and please be seated.
    I would now like to formally introduce our witness. Admiral 
Linda Fagan assumed the duties as the 27th commandant of the 
United States Coast Guard on June 1, 2022. As Commandant she 
oversees all global Coast Guard operations and 42,000 Active-
Duty, 7,000 Reserve, and 8,700 civilian personnel, as well as 
the support of 21,000 Coast Guard auxiliary volunteers.
    Admiral Fagan previously served as the 32nd vice commandant 
and in several other critical roles within the Service as a 
flag officer. In addition, Admiral Fagan has served on all 7 
continents, from Antarctica to Africa and in many ports along 
the way.
    Admiral Fagan, I thank you for being here today. You are 
now recognized for 5 minutes to summarize your opening 
statement.

  STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL LINDA L. FAGAN, COMMANDANT, U.S. COAST 
                             GUARD

    Admiral Fagan. Thank you and good morning to the many 
distinguished Members of the committee. Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today, and I ask that my written 
testimony be entered into the record.
    Before I begin, I would like to express our sincere 
condolences on the passing of Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, 
a former Member of this committee, a strong supporter of the 
Coast Guard. Our thoughts are with all those who loved and knew 
her.
    On behalf of the Service, thank you for your enduring 
support for the Coast Guard, our work force, and our families. 
We are especially grateful for the $12.9 billion in 
discretionary funding included in the House Appropriation 
Committee's June mark-up. I am incredibly proud of our work 
force who are on the front lines every day saving lives, 
protecting our ports and waterways, defending our Nation, 
ensuring our economic prosperity.
    You need look no further than the recent response to the 
Baltimore bridge collapse and the Lahaina wildfires to see our 
value and service to the American people. Around the globe, 
from the Middle East, where we are boarding ships and seizing 
Iranian-made weapons destined for Houthi rebels, from the Indo-
Pacific, Arctic, and throughout the Western Hemisphere we 
protect U.S. national security, promote responsible maritime 
governance, dismantle transnational criminal organizations, and 
uphold the rules-based international order.
    At home and abroad our crews, the heart and soul of the 
Coast Guard, put their lives on the line every day to protect, 
defend, and save. We do this with courage, character, and 
humility.
    We are doing more than we have ever done and more is being 
asked of us. Now our work force is stretched thin and we are 
doing less with less. Our needs across the Service are at risk 
of outpacing our ability to operate in the exceptional ways 
that we do.
    The Coast Guard needs more, and I know we need your support 
and it will starts with my highest priority, modernizing our 
talent management system to recruit and retain the best and 
brightest. We have made difficult decisions to tailor some of 
our front-line operations due to the on-going personnel 
shortfall.
    We are working hard to close the gap and early indications 
are that our efforts are paying off and recruitment is trending 
up. I ask for your support to continue to build on this 
momentum.
    We need to provide our work force with the tools they need 
to be successful, modern ships, boats, and aircraft, and the 
infrastructure and systems to support them. We must address 
their basic personal needs, housing, child care, health care, 
so our crews can stand the watch with total focus knowing that 
their families are taken care of.
    We also need maintenance budgets that actually cover our 
maintenance needs. Our projected ship maintenance budget will 
cover half of the planned projects next year, with similar 
shortfalls in our infrastructure and aircraft accounts. This 
causes us to defer maintenance, which drives up unplanned cost 
and disrupts work and training schedules, sidelines our cutters 
and aircraft, taking our crews away from operational missions 
where our Nation needs us most.
    As you know, we have been hard at work strengthening the 
Service's culture to assure we are intolerant of any harmful 
behaviors. This is critical work. As I said earlier, our people 
are the heart and soul of the Coast Guard and our core values 
of honor, respect, and devotion to duty define and guide all 
that we do.
    Every member of our work force deserves a Coast Guard 
culture where each person feels safe, valued, and empowered and 
where they belong. A culture that is intolerant of the crime of 
sexual assault and any other harmful behaviors that undermine 
our mission and everything that we stand for. This is my 
expectation. It is the standard that we will hold ourselves to.
    This is about having courage to hold ourselves to the 
highest standards through our core values every day, ensuring 
discipline and excellence in our actions and operation in all 
that we do. We are committed to that work.
    Together I am confident we will build on our successes to 
meet the threats and challenges of the 21st Century as we 
remain the world's best Coast Guard. Thank you. Semper Paratus.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Fagan follows:]
              Prepared Statement of Admiral Linda L. Fagan
                             July 24, 2024
                              introduction
    Chairman Green, Ranking Member Thompson, and distinguished Members 
of the committee, thank you for inviting me to testify. I am grateful 
for your continuing support of the United States Coast Guard. Today, I 
look forward to discussing how the administration's fiscal year 2025 
budget request positions the Service to sustain recent strides in 
growing and supporting a resilient workforce, increases meaningful 
presence in the Indo-Pacific, enhances support for the maritime 
community, and delivers capable assets to the fleet, while building the 
Coast Guard of the future.
    The Coast Guard remains the world's premier, multi-mission, 
maritime service responsible for the safety, security, and stewardship 
of the Nation's waters: we offer a unique and enduring value to the 
American public. At all times a military service and branch of the U.S. 
Armed Forces, a Federal law enforcement agency, a first responder, a 
regulatory body, and a member of the U.S. intelligence community, the 
Coast Guard serves on the front lines for a Nation whose economic 
prosperity and national security are inextricably linked to the sea. 
This pivotal connection was highlighted on March 26, when the M/V DALI 
allided with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, resulting in 
the devasting loss of 6 lives and continuing impacts to the Nation's 
most significant port for light vehicles and other critical cargoes. We 
are working closely with Federal, State, and local partners to restore 
the flow of commerce in this vital waterway and enable efficient 
operation of nearby ports and the Marine Transportation System.
    Last year, your Coast Guard navigated unique challenges presented 
by our increasingly connected and rapidly-changing world. In fiscal 
year 2023, the Service saved over 5,500 lives, assisted over 40,000 
people, and removed over 212,000 pounds of cocaine and 54,000 pounds of 
marijuana with an approximate wholesale value of $2.9 billion. It 
responded to 28 weather or climate disaster events, protected 3.5 
million square miles of Exclusive Economic Zone, and boarded over 50 
foreign vessels to suppress illegal, unreported, and unregulated 
fishing. In the same year, the Coast Guard maintained nearly 45,000 
buoys and beacons across the Marine Transportation System and conducted 
over 10,000 waterborne patrols to protect critical infrastructure and 
key resources. It also provided support to U.S. Central Command to 
advance security cooperation, maritime security, and counter-piracy 
objectives in the Arabian Gulf, and deployed the Nation's only 2 
icebreakers--the cutters Polar Star and Healy--to further U.S. 
geopolitical, security, and economic interests in the High Latitudes.
    The Coast Guard continued to serve as a highly effective partner, 
uniquely qualified to lead the interagency in multiple capacities, 
including incident response and search and rescue. In June 2023, the 
Coast Guard led search-and-recovery efforts for the missing submersible 
Titan in the Northern Atlantic. In August, crews from Coast Guard 
Station Maui rescued 17 people fleeing the fires that devastated the 
community of Lahaina. Coast Guard personnel also deployed in response 
to Hurricane Lee and Tropical Storm Idalia, saving or assisting 16 
lives and rapidly restoring trade across the Marine Transportation 
System.
    The Service safeguards our Marine Transportation System, a vital 
part of U.S. economic prosperity and national security. In February 
2024, the President signed an Executive Order to bolster the Coast 
Guard's authority to directly address cyber threats and strengthen port 
security. To complement this action, the Service issued a Maritime 
Security Directive on cyber risk management actions for ship-to-shore 
cranes manufactured by People's Republic of China state-owned companies 
and published a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) on cybersecurity 
in the Marine Transportation System.
    In addition to protecting our ports and maritime partners from 
evolving threats, we also began to expand our presence in the Indo-
Pacific, a region vital to U.S. security, by homeporting the Harriet 
Lane, the Service's first dedicated Indo-Pacific Cutter, in Hawaii. 
This multi-mission cutter's presence in the region is already promoting 
maritime governance through meaningful engagements with regional allies 
and partners. During its first ``Operation Blue Pacific'' patrol, the 
Harriet Lane worked closely with Vanuatu, Fiji, Samoa, and other 
partners to complete numerous bilateral shiprider operations, advancing 
capacity building with island nations and upholding international 
rules-based order.
    While I am incredibly proud of our Coast Guard Active Duty, 
Reserve, Civilian, and Auxiliary workforce and remain optimistic about 
our future, we must adapt to the growing demand for the Coast Guard in 
the face of evolving global threats. In order to transform our Service 
and continue to provide our unique capabilities to the American people, 
we need Congressional support.
    The ability for the Coast Guard to generate sustained workforce and 
mission readiness is paramount to our ability to protect the Nation's 
maritime safety, security, and prosperity. The fiscal year 2025 
President's budget provides needed investment in these areas and helps 
position the Coast Guard for the future.
           generate sustained workforce and mission readiness
Workforce Readiness
    My highest priority remains modernizing our talent management 
system, which has not significantly changed in 75 years, to best 
recruit and retain our workforce in the 21st Century. I am committed to 
fostering a Service culture that attracts the best talent and empowers 
a resilient force of Coast Guard women and men ready to take on 
tomorrow's challenges.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget requests $160 million to bolster 
military and civilian pay and benefits; funding to enhance our culture 
through efforts related to integrated primary prevention (IPP), victim 
advocacy, anti-hate and anti-harassment prevention and response, and 
modernizing our officer evaluations system. Investments to expand our 
IPP program will promote prevention efforts across all harmful 
behaviors, to include sexual harassment and sexual assault, by 
facilitating the swift implementation of policies and procedures to 
ensure everyone experiences a workplace with enhanced protective 
factors and increased outreach. To further those efforts, support for 
our recently-created Enterprise Victim Advocate role--the first of its 
kind across the armed forces--will further advance the connection 
between victims of harmful behavior, stakeholder groups, and Coast 
Guard leadership. In addition to these strides for our workforce, the 
request provides $7 million to bolster our workforce's support of the 
U.S. maritime community by fielding personnel to improve the Coast 
Guard's ability to combat sexual misconduct in the maritime industry 
and to support the transformation of the Mariner Credentialing Program.
Mission Readiness
    The Coast Guard must continue to adapt to a constantly-evolving 
environment and remain resilient to change. The demand for the Coast 
Guard has never been higher; we continue to demonstrate our value 
across the globe but increasingly so in the Indo-Pacific, where our 
unique capabilities position us to effectively and meaningfully advance 
U.S. strategy. Through foreign partner interactions and work with 
regional organizations, the Coast Guard is a relevant, non-escalatory 
resource which strengthens maritime governance, the rule of law, and 
democratic institutions.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget requests $263 million to expand Coast 
Guard operations in the Indo-Pacific along 3 primary lines of effort: 
Increased Presence, Maritime Governance, and Meaningful Engagements. 
This investment includes the acquisition of 2 Fast Response Cutters 
(FRC) and the addition of a Marine Transportation System Assessment 
Team, a Maritime Engagement Team, and various regional liaisons and 
attaches, and will continues the Service's transition from episodic to 
persistent presence in the region.
    The Coast Guard operates in dynamic conditions, and changes in the 
strategic environment impact our missions every day. Given evolving 
national security threats, we must prepare now for the challenges of 
tomorrow.
    We will employ our assets and resources to the highest-priority 
missions that we are uniquely capable to perform, build on our ability 
to lead in crisis, strengthen existing and forge new partnerships to 
improve global maritime governance, and safeguard a rapidly-changing 
Marine Transportation System.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget requests funding for the operations, 
maintenance, crew, and mission support elements for 6 FRCs; shoreside 
maintenance and support personnel for Offshore Patrol Cutters (OPC) No. 
3 and No. 4; crew for Waterways Commerce Cutter No. 1; funds to support 
4 hyperbaric recompression chambers; and crew, operations, and 
maintenance for 4 MH-60T helicopters and 8 Maritime Security Response 
Team boats. Additionally, the budget includes $10 million for the 
operations and maintenance of newly-acquired or recapitalized shore 
facilities.
                  build the coast guard of the future
    I remain steadfast in our commitment to ensure the Coast Guard has 
the capable, modern assets necessary to meet evolving mission demands.
Surface
    The OPC is one of the Service's highest acquisition priorities and 
is absolutely vital to recapitalizing the capability provided by our 
legacy fleet of 210-foot and 270-foot Medium Endurance Cutters (MEC). 
In October 2023, the Service christened and launched the first hull in 
the class, the Argus--we look forward to continued progress on this 
critical class of vessels. The fiscal year 2025 request provides $530 
million for construction of the seventh OPC and long lead time 
materials for the eighth cutter. The legacy assets the OPCs will 
replace have been workhorses for decades and continue to serve the 
Nation with distinction. Thirteen of these venerable cutters have been 
in operation for more than 50 years. The MEC fleet will only become 
more difficult and expensive to maintain, and we will continue to see 
decreasing readiness and operational availability.
    The Service's other acquisition priority remains the Polar Security 
Cutter. In fiscal year 2025 we expect to rely on prior appropriations 
to continue construction of the first hull. In future years it will be 
important that the Nation continue to invest in the heavy polar 
icebreakers that the United States needs to protect America's sovereign 
interests in the polar regions. These cutters are national assets, and 
revitalizing the defense industrial base to produce this first-in-class 
ship is a necessary investment that will pay dividends for decades.
    Some of our inland tenders have been in service since the 1940's, 
maintaining both fixed and floating aids to navigation for the Marine 
Transportation System--the 25,000 miles of rivers and navigable 
channels that support $5.4 trillion in annual commerce and 30 million 
jobs. The fiscal year 2025 request for $135 million supports program 
management, long lead time material for future hulls, and construction 
of 3 Waterways Commerce Cutters. These cutters--which will replace our 
legacy inland tender fleet--will feature modern designs for propulsion 
and crew habitability to enable men and women to serve in the 
heartland, where they help ensure that some of America's most critical 
waterways remain navigable despite constantly changing conditions and 
water levels.
    As we consider aging assets, one of the most critical elements of 
the Service's surface budget request is the In-Service Vessel 
Sustainment program. That request for $148 million is vital to 
extending the service life of cutters and boats, including our 47' 
motor life boats, Coast Guard Cutter Healy--1 of the Nation's 2 polar 
icebreakers--the 270' MECs, our 175' coastal buoy tenders, and even our 
418" National Security Cutters. These upgrades provide legacy assets 
with modern capabilities, repair wear and tear on major systems, and 
overall deliver incredible return on investment.
    The FRC is an incredibly capable asset, with a proven track record 
of successful mission execution around the globe. Our FRCs demonstrate 
endurance and agility in their near-shore operations but have also 
displayed an inimitable ability to patrol the Indo-Pacific and engage 
with our partners, increasing presence and promoting governance 
throughout the region. The fiscal year 2025 request provides $216 
million to support the construction of 2 FRCs that will expand Coast 
Guard presence to support the Indo-Pacific Strategy of the United 
States. FRCs are uniquely equipped to conduct the types of engagements 
that support our partners, deter our adversaries, and promote good 
maritime governance in this vital region.
Aviation Assets
    Coast Guard aviation is integral to accomplishing our wide spectrum 
of missions. Aviation assets and support infrastructure are, and will 
continue to be, a major target of future investments. The fiscal year 
2025 request includes $206 million to recapitalize and sustain fixed 
and rotary-wing aircraft, including support for growth of the MH-60T 
helicopter fleet through the acquisition of 4 aircraft that will 
continue our transition away from the MH-65E as that aircraft reaches 
its end of service life in the late 2030's.
Shore Infrastructure
    Shore facility recapitalization is critical to mission success. As 
the Service deploys new, more capable assets, infrastructure projects 
like pier construction, maintenance and industrial support buildings, 
and facilities that support our workforce cannot be viewed as optional. 
The fiscal year 2025 request includes targeted investments to continue 
the build-out of Base Charleston, South Carolina; funds the 
construction of a FRC homeport in Astoria, Oregon; delivers new 
facilities for Sector Lower Mississippi in Memphis, Tennessee; and 
supports the build-out of Forward Operating Locations for FRCs in the 
Indo-Pacific. Given the Coast Guard's broad infrastructure needs, these 
investments are necessary to ensure the Service has the resilient 
infrastructure required to meet the operational demands of today and 
tomorrow.
                               conclusion
    The Coast Guard is the only military Service outside the Department 
of Defense and the only Armed Force that is primarily funded via non-
defense appropriations. Funding the Coast Guard at the levels below 
those requested in this budget could jeopardize the long-term readiness 
of the Service, putting American lives, national security, and the 
Marine Transportation System at risk. I ask for your support to ensure 
the Coast Guard--like every U.S. Armed Force--has the resources 
necessary to safeguard the Nation.
    Now is the time to move the U.S. Coast Guard forward. Our 
commitments at home to protect, defend, and save, grow every day, while 
demand for the Service around the globe has never been higher. To meet 
the rising challenges, we must invest to secure the homeland and 
counter strategic competitors.
    With the support of the administration and Congress, your Coast 
Guard will continue to live up to our motto--Semper Paratus--Always 
Ready. Thank you for your enduring support.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, Admiral Fagan.
    Our Members will be recognized by order of seniority for 
their 5 minutes of questioning. Given the time constraints that 
we have I would ask the Members to keep their questioning to 5 
minutes only.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes of questions. Admiral 
Fagan, the polar security cutter, the heavy ice breakers, can 
you give us an update on what is going on with that? We should 
have had our first cutter already in the water and we haven't 
even started building it yet. What is going on?
    Admiral Fagan. Polar security cutter is a critical national 
security asset for the Nation as we create the ability to 
operate and generate presence in our own exclusive economic 
zone, in our own waters. Polar security cutter contract has 
been delayed. We are working with the shipyard.
    There was--the shipyard was sold and purchased by 
Bollinger. It is now Bollinger Mississippi. We are working with 
that shipbuilder to finalize the detailed design, begin 
building the cutter in earnest.
    We began some module work. I owe the committee an update on 
what the time line will be for actual construction of the 
cutter. I----
    Mr. Gimenez. Admiral, could I cut you? You say you are 
working on the final design? You are supposed to have a ship in 
the water and you are still working on a design?
    Admiral Fagan. We have a design. The design maturity is 
critical to reducing risk in on-ward schedule slippage and 
cost. So that work is----
    Mr. Gimenez. How many years have you have been designing 
this icebreaker?
    Admiral Fagan. We have been working with the yard owners 
for the past several years. The original----
    Mr. Gimenez. What is several years? How many years you have 
been--it is supposed to be in the water now. You are 5 years 
behind, right?
    Admiral Fagan. We are absolutely behind schedule.
    Mr. Gimenez. Well, how many years you have been designing 
this cutter?
    Admiral Fagan. I will have my staff come back to when we 
actually started that design work. We are very close to having 
the design maturity needed to begin to build and create 
certainty around cost and schedule.
    Mr. Gimenez. With all due respect, Commandant, I have been 
on this committee 3 years. We have been hearing the same thing, 
that we are really close to design and finishing the design. 
What is the problem? Why haven't you finished the design? You 
can't start building it until you have your design. What is the 
problem?
    Admiral Fagan. The original company that the bid was 
awarded to lost time and schedule. They did not have all of the 
engineers on that they needed to begin to move that forward. 
COVID complicated that time line. I am confident in the 
shipbuilder that we have. I am confident in where we are with 
regard to design maturity, and I am confident we will begin 
building that ship before the end of the year and look forward 
to providing more details to the committee.
    Mr. Gimenez. So we can look forward to laying the keel 
before the end of December?
    Admiral Fagan. I don't have the exact keeling date. I will 
come back to you with that, sir.
    Mr. Gimenez. Well, this is an issue of national security. 
To be honest with you, to not even have the design done yet 
when you are supposed to have the ship in the water by now, 
that doesn't give us much confidence. OK?
    Admiral Fagan. I understand.
    Mr. Gimenez. So I will move on. On your recruitment, we are 
2,500, you know, sailors short. Where are you on recruitment? 
You said you had made gains there. All right. What is the cause 
of the problem and what are you going to do to make sure that 
we have enough personnel to run the Coast Guard?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes, we appreciate the on-going support of 
the committee to help us meet our recruitment challenges and 
over the past several years that support has allowed us to 
bring on more recruiters, establish a talent acquisition 
profession. All of those investments are paying dividends.
    This year, at this point, we have met our reservation 
numbers so we are for the first time in nearly 9 years on a 
trajectory to at least stop losing people at a greater rate 
than we are on-boarding them. The talent that is coming to the 
Service is exceptional. I meet the young people at Cape May. 
They are driven and know why they have joined the Coast Guard.
    We continue to make investments going to young people where 
they are to ensure they are aware of the opportunities that the 
Coast Guard presents and that they under--understand what our 
value proposition is.
    Mr. Gimenez. Well, so you stopped the bleeding, right? Or 
you think you stopped the bleeding? By that I mean you were 
losing more people than you are getting into the Coast Guard. 
So you are stopping the bleeding but you bled out a lot. So how 
many more national personnel are you going to need? How many 
are you short right now?
    Admiral Fagan. We are short with approximately 2,300 right 
now. As I said, while we have stopped that we need to continue 
to keep our foot on the accelerator and we are doing that.
    Some of the additional investments that the Service will 
benefit from is engagement and work around infrastructure at 
Cape May, which is our single source for training enlisted 
personnel to ensure that they have a first-class experience.
    We continue to work with the oversight committees to ensure 
that we have----
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, ma'am. My time is up.
    I now recognize the Ranking Member for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you very much.
    Madam Commandant, one of the things that I think in the 
recruitment you could look at is if we did recruitment like we 
do the rest of our service academies, that Members of Congress 
can make appointments to the Coast Guard, that might be a way 
of closing that gap since the other service academies they are 
doing a pretty good job of fulfilling that.
    For some of the new Members on the committee, as you know, 
the Coast Guard is the only service academy where we can't make 
nominations to. When you look at where most of the people in 
the Coast Guard come from, they come from either the East Coast 
or the West Coast. So if you are in Texas or Oklahoma or 
Mississippi, or all these other places, we don't have as many 
people. So I am just throwing that out as an option.
    So the other thing I would like to talk a little bit about 
is the process that we included that the ship had to be built 
by an American-owned company. Am I correct?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes.
    Mr. Thompson. So can you tell me how many shipbuilders that 
could be on that ship that is American-owned?
    Admiral Fagan. Polar security cutter is a complex ship to 
build. We have a number of shipyards, particularly along the 
Gulf Coast of the United States. As the contract was bid, any 
yard that won that bid was going to need to make significant 
capital investments in their structure and that yard, which is 
now Bollinger Mississippi, has made those capital investments 
and are in a position to build the ship.
    Admiral Fagan. So did that slow the process down, saying it 
had to be built by an American company?
    Admiral Fagan. Sir, I will have my staff come back to look 
at as we were making those, the bid and the contract, award 
decisions and give you clarity there. There is a limit to the 
national defense industrial base. We compete with the Navy for 
shipyard building capacity and ship repair.
    The Nation needs all of the capacity we have and more to 
ensure a ready force and it applies to us as one of the 
branches of the Armed Services.
    Mr. Thompson. So when was the last time the Coast Guard 
took receipt of an icebreaker?
    Admiral Fagan. The icebreakers that we are currently 
operating, the Coast Guard cutter Polar Star was commissioned 
in 1976 and the medium icebreaker Coast Guard cutter Healy was 
commissioned about 10 years after that. So it has been a number 
of years since we have commissioned a new icebreaker, heavy 
icebreaker, for operation in either the Antarctica or the 
Arctic.
    Mr. Thompson. So do you have any knowledge of how often a 
request was made to Congress to fund an icebreaker?
    Admiral Fagan. I don't have the specifics of the funding 
ask and then the appropriation journey that we have been on, 
but happy to work with your staff and because that we have 
that----
    Mr. Thompson. Yes. I think it is important that if the 
Coast Guard made the request that we need money to even build 
or expand the fleet and Congress didn't award the money, I 
mean, I think that would be significant for it.
    So we both have talked about Operation Fouled Anchor. Are 
you comfortable with where that process is right now within the 
Coast Guard?
    Admiral Fagan. With regard to Operation Fouled Anchor, the 
legacy mishandling of sexual assaults at the Coast Guard 
Academy in the 1980's and 1990's, we continue to work with the 
Congressionally-directed IG investigation and will remain 
responsive. I respect the world of oversight.
    As we wait for the investigation to complete, we have begun 
action as a service. I initiated a 90-day accountability and 
transparency review. There were 33 directed actions, 18 of them 
have been completed.
    But more importantly, this is a journey that will continue. 
This is not a checklist that when it is done we are done. This 
is how we will create culture intolerant of any kind of harmful 
behavior as a service, and I am excited about the progress we 
have made and welcome an opportunity to share more details.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the Ranking Member.
    I now recognize the gentleman from Mississippi, Mr. Ezell.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, Admiral, for being here today. My home State of 
Mississippi is a hub for shipbuilding in the United States. For 
decades Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula has delivered 
vessels for the United States Coast Guard and the Navy. This 
includes 10 of the 11 planned national security cutters to the 
Coast Guard, and they are on track to deliver the final vessels 
in the next few years.
    Additionally, Bollinger, also in my district, is contracted 
by the Coast Guard to build the polar security cutter, the 
first heavy icebreaker to be built in the United States in 
nearly 50 years.
    Despite these accomplishments, shipyards in my State are 
struggling to find an adequate work force. While the shipyards 
are working on solutions, more needs to be done to ensure the 
long-term success of these shipyards and the local economy in 
southeast Mississippi.
    Companies like Bollinger continue to hire and train workers 
at a rate that previous owners of the facility hadn't seen in 
over a decade.
    Admiral Fagan, how is the Coast Guard navigating these work 
force challenges and supporting the shipyards?
    Admiral Fagan. We have talked to just now about my own work 
force challenges and work force is a challenge for all 
employers. We continue to work with the yards on the Gulf Coast 
who we have contracts with, whether it is polar security 
cutter, fast response cutters, the offshore patrol cutter, and 
recognize that work force and steady, reliable, predictable 
work for those yards becomes a critical way for them to create 
certainty for their work force. And continue to look to create 
that certainty and predictability so that work force can be 
hired, trained, and employed. It is critical to our national 
security.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you. I am also encouraged by the recent 
trilateral agreement between the United States, Canada, and 
Finland to place South Mississippi as the icebreaker capital of 
the world for our allies.
    The Navy has funding to invest in shipyards that help make 
capital improvements. These investments enhance shipyard 
operations and support improving the work force, resulting in 
better products for the Federal Government, service members, 
and ultimately all Americans.
    We know smaller shipyards often contract with the Coast 
Guard. Do you think that the Coast Guard would benefit from a 
similar investment fund?
    Admiral Fagan. Access to shipbuilding and ship repair 
capacity is critical to the Coast Guard's readiness and 
critical to our national security. Any opportunity to increase 
the resiliency of the national defense industrial base as it 
pertains to shipbuilding is overall a good strategy and would 
benefit not just the Coast Guard but the Nation.
    Mr. Ezell. Very good, thank you. I would like to move to 
something else here just for a minute about the shrimping and 
fishing industry in my district, these hardworking mariners and 
fishermen that help feed the United States and contribute 
significantly to southeast Mississippi economy.
    I continue to hear about the impact of illegal, 
unregulated, and unreported fishing on these families. We must 
continue to fight the illegal dumping and enforce the UFLPA. We 
have seen these foreign countries, mainly the CCP, have no 
regard for our laws or our communities.
    With the growing threat to the IUU around the world, 
especially with China's more aggressive fishing fleet, do you 
agree more investments should be made to increase the FRC 
acquisitions?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. Illegal fishing is a crime and it is a 
crime that is committed around the globe. The best counter for 
illegal fishing is creating on-scene and on-water presence, so 
any investments that create extra capacity to counter that 
crime of illegal fishing is a benefit.
    The fast response cutters have been exceptional assets for 
us, not just in illegal fishing but in many of the other 
missions and operations we conduct as a Coast Guard.
    Mr. Ezell. Very good. What legal authority does the Coast 
Guard have to bring these perpetrators of IUU fishing to 
justice?
    Admiral Fagan. We engage in countering illegal fishing 
literally around the world and in some cases we partner with 
ally and partner nations to allow them to exercise their own 
sovereignty and their own authorities in their own waters.
    With regard to IUU fishing in the Gulf of Mexico, we 
continue to engage to counter that activity and create 
opportunities for enforcement and consequences to breaking the 
law.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I would like to invite you down to Bollinger 
Marine you can see the progress that is being made down there. 
I would like to invite any Member on this committee to come see 
what we are doing down there for the Coast Guard.
    So with that, I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the gentleman from Mississippi. I 
may take you up on that.
    The votes have been called and so the committee will stand 
in recess until after the end of this vote series.
    [Recess.]
    Mr. Luttrell [presiding]. Again, thank you, Admiral, for 
your graciousness on the development of the day.
    Are you ready, Mr. Magaziner? Mr. Magaziner, you are 
recognized for 5 minutes, sir.
    Mr. Magaziner. Well, thank you, Mr. Chair. Congressman 
Luttrell and I have been waiting for this day for a long time 
so----
    Mr. Luttrell. You get to witness it. Tell all your friends 
that this is the future of Homeland right here.
    Mr. Magaziner. Yes. I am going to get us in trouble.
    Well, thank you again.
    Thank you, Admiral. Rhode Island, of course, has a long, 
rich history with the Coast Guard which maintains an active 
presence in our State conducting search-and-rescue missions, 
protecting our waters from environmental contamination and 
illegal fishing, among other important missions.
    I am very proud that as of 2022, 2 additional Coast Guard 
cutters, the Tahoma and the Campbell, now call Newport home and 
we are very proud and grateful for that.
    One issue that we are having in Rhode Island as relates to 
the Coast Guard has to do with the availability of housing. I 
have heard from constituents, from Coast Guard Service members 
who are having a hard time finding housing in the region, and 
particularly in the Newport area where they have to compete 
with, like, the vacation rental market and other factors. I 
know that this is not an isolated experience. Forty-one percent 
of U.S. Coast Guard units are located either in remote areas 
without a lot of housing stock or in the high vacation rental 
areas like in Newport.
    So can you talk about how the Coast Guard is managing the 
housing program and what we as Members of Congress can do to 
help you in those efforts?
    Admiral Fagan. Thank you. Housing is obviously a challenge 
for the work force as we transfer them every several years and 
the Newport is no exception to the challenge in finding 
housing. We work to exercise all of our authorities with regard 
to housing and so approach it from a diversified standpoint.
    Where Congress can help is ensuring we have got adequate 
housing allowance reimbursement for the work force so they can 
actually access the housing. We are working to exercise long-
term leases to provide better predictability for people and, 
obviously, rely on military bases and some of the public-
private venture housing there.
    I know are all of those are leverages that we use both in 
Newport and across the country to support our personnel.
    Mr. Magaziner. Thank you. We heard a little bit already 
about the staffing shortages, the personnel shortages that the 
Coast Guard is facing. One of the impacts of that has been the 
reduced service at the Castle Hill Station in Newport and so I 
am wondering if you could give us a sense of what the time line 
might be to returning to a full level of operation there and 
what needs to happen in order to get that done?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. Station Castle Hill was one of the 
stations that we moved to scheduled mission only. It reflects 
the shortfall in nonrated and junior personnel that we are 
managing as a Service.
    That shortfall is currently about 2,300 people. I shared 
earlier that we have gained ground on our recruiting and 
recruiting challenges and we, at this point in the year, have 
the number of reservations that we need to sort-of stop the 
growth in losses.
    It is going to take us time to build back. We will continue 
to keep our foot on the gas to ensure that we are recruiting 
any and all who want to serve this incredible organization and 
look forward to working with you in this committee to ensure 
that we have got all of the right investments for recruiting so 
we can continue to grow.
    Mr. Magaziner. Thank you. Of course, I think part of how we 
address recruitment is by making sure that the Coast Guard is 
seen as a place that is welcoming to everyone. You referenced 
the issues with sexual assault at the academy in the 1980's and 
1990's. Can you just talk a little bit about what protocols, 
what programs have been put in place to ensure that that 
culture remains in the past and is no longer present going 
forward?
    Admiral Fagan. We have made an incredible number of 
investments in the organization and today are not the same 
organization that we were in the 1980's and 1990's. Sexual 
assault is a crime. It is investigated as a crime. I am 
committed to ensuring that there is full accountability when a 
crime occurs.
    What we are doing around Service culture today that we have 
moved out on aggressively is to ensure that the culture is 
intolerant of any harm, whether it is the crime of sexual 
assault, hazing, bullying, retaliation.
    We have stepped into that work. I am proud of the progress 
we are making and would welcome an opportunity to share with 
you in detail some of the investments we have made and 
additional investments we will need to ensure that we complete 
this journey.
    Mr. Magaziner. All right. Thank you, Admiral.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Luttrell. Thank you, sir.
    Admiral, can you give me kind-of a--and we don't have to 
get too, too far into the weeds on this, but your cyber 
infrastructure, your cyber effort and how you are sharing that 
across the force, and what that looks like globally and how the 
footprint and the expansiveness of the footprint when it comes 
to the cyber space?
    Admiral Fagan. We have been making investments in cyber, in 
our cyber work force, both to--it started with protecting our 
own cyber infrastructure and increasingly includes investments 
and expertise as it relates to the marine transportation system 
and ensuring that the system we rely on in our Nation for $5.4 
trillion in economic benefit is hardened and safe in the cyber 
world.
    There was an Executive Order in February that clarified our 
role in response to a cyber incident, and we are in the process 
of writing a rule making to clarify standards for the industry 
that we regulate to ensure that they as well are cyber-
hardened. We sit in a great area of expertise between 
understanding the maritime sector and having cyber expertise.
    Mr. Luttrell. Well, you are definitely the subject-matter 
expert. I would think creating cross-functional teams is a must 
engaging with other services in their cyber force.
    Is there information sharing going because this is the 
tricky part and this is something that is kind-of frustrating 
to the committee, that when we talk about cyber infrastructure 
is it is very siloed.
    You know, I am a Navy guy, so, obviously, Army hates me for 
some reason, you know, but we don't--information sharing seems 
to be kind-of restricted and we are trying to thread the seams. 
Have you engaged with your counterparts in this, in cyber?
    Admiral Fagan. We absolutely engage with our DOD 
counterparts. I have Coast Guard personnel at U.S. Cyber 
Command. I have a Coast Guard Cyber Command. We lean on that 
training and infrastructure.
    Our CPTs and mission teams work right alongside our DOD 
counterparts. We are a member of the intelligence community and 
working to share information and break down those silos is an 
important part of the work that is on-going.
    Mr. Luttrell. Looking forward, and I mean, I would ask 
leadership to look, you need to be looking 10 to 20 years ahead 
of where we are today. Is there advancements that you are--
let's see, I think the best way to say this is, is there a 
stall point that you are seeing in the Coast Guard when it 
comes to cyber buildout, to ask the one? Because the committee 
itself understands the importance in the development of 
cybersecurity and what that does for our operational and 
strategic and tactical advantages. Is there something that is 
kind-of pinging hard on your radar?
    Admiral Fagan. We have been making these investments in 
cyber and cyber expertise. We have stood up a cyber rating, a 
cyber specialty within the organization.
    Mr. Luttrell. OK. How does that--OK. Since--well, yes. I am 
glad you said that because I know recruiting across the board, 
minus the Marine Corps, you know, if there are any Marines in 
here good job, recruiting seems to be difficult when it comes 
to our cyber specialists.
    When we talk about enhancing our recruiting capabilities 
that seems to be one of those niches that we can't fill. Are 
you finding any success from last year to this year?
    Admiral Fagan. Cyber is definitely an area that people, 
young people, are interested in. They want to join and serve 
in. So it has been a benefit to have cyber specialty, cyber 
rating.
    I would welcome an opportunity to work with the committee 
as we look at how do we continue to not just recruit but then 
retain that work force as we provide incredible expertise and 
training that we then need to retain either as a Coast Guard 
or, frankly, in the military to ensure our national security.
    There is still room to grow there and would welcome 
further----
    Mr. Luttrell. Right. I do think that is a narrative we need 
to adjust. Actually, we need to recreate the narrative to 
recruitment in the military and how it is one of the most 
successful pathways you can possibly have as a young, aspiring 
American.
    As far as our waterway footprint and the amount of 
immigration we see coming across the waters, and forgive me for 
lack of a better term, but Coast Guard is responsible for the 
policing of the global waterways. Is that overwhelming the 
system?
    Admiral Fagan. Is the question specifically related to 
maritime----
    Mr. Luttrell. Is the draw to when we have the Cuban 
immigrants coming across the waterways; the Haitians, they are 
coming across. It seems like we have to migrate a lot of effort 
into that particular spot. Are we losing effort elsewhere 
because we are having to focus in on that?
    Admiral Fagan. The Coast Guard views our maritime migration 
work, it is life-saving work as people make desperate attempts 
to illegally migrate to the country. We 2 years ago were seeing 
large numbers of migrant flows across all of the maritime 
vectors, moved assets, created increased presence.
    More recently, this year, those flows have been down 
significantly, which frees assets. We still have them up 
postured in those vectors. We use unmanned systems as well as 
actual Coast Guard ships to create that presence, but we remain 
ever-vigilant to preventing mass migration at sea but balance 
that with the other demands on our work to include 
counternarcotics.
    Mr. Luttrell. OK. Thank you, ma'am.
    Mr. Brecheen, you are recognized for 5 minutes, sir.
    Mr. Brecheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral, thank you so much for being here. I really want to 
ducktail on my colleague from Texas when he was asking about 
the amount of personnel and equipment and supplies, attention 
to the Caribbean area.
    I took a CODEL with a group. We had an incident with an 
Oklahoman and several people from the United States in one of 
the Caribbean islands recently, and it was astounding to find 
out as far out into the Caribbean area as Turks and Caicos that 
there was a patrol element and that we were spending so many 
resources in that area.
    What is the footprint, you know, just, I guess, Turks and 
Caicos and the Puerto Rico area? What does that footprint look 
like in that Turks and Caicos region? The reason why I am 
asking this question, I am concerned that maybe we are 
providing services, and I can tell you from meeting with the 
leaders of that country, that I think probably is taken for 
granted.
    I can absolutely tell you that by meeting with their 
leadership, the Governor, the AG. I don't think that they 
understand in terms of just how they benefit from the American 
taxpayer.
    Are we spending too much time and resources there where 
some of those assignments could be moved closer to the Florida 
area?
    Admiral Fagan. We have Coast Guard assets deployed into the 
maritime vectors where we historically see maritime migration 
to ensure that we prevent those illegal migrant attempts into 
the United States. You asked specifically about Puerto Rico. We 
have Coast Guard assets based in Puerto Rico, both fast 
response cutters and people at stations, as well as an air 
station to create that presence that is critical to deterring 
those illegal effects.
    Much of the work we do it is not just the Coast Guard. It 
is interagency work and we do work with allies and partner 
nations as we look to mitigate and prevent illegal migration 
attempts.
    Mr. Brecheen. But in regards to the amount of assignment 
that is that far away from the mainland, but my question is are 
we being as efficient as we could be? If I had a reason to play 
defense, there is a reason why you have post in the game of 
basketball because you kind-of concentrate manpower closer to 
where the goal is. You know, for the goal for illegal 
immigration is get access to mainland.
    My question is are we sending so much personnel, equipment, 
time spent so far, thousands of miles off the mainland coast, 
that we are--your recruitment numbers are down, that maybe 
would be better spent focusing closer to our mainland?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. I am happy to have staff come over and 
walk through the complexity of how we place, you know, how we 
create that deterrent effect and going, you know, providing a 
defense further from the shore than being in your own end zone 
is an effective strategy. We have a multiple layered approach 
to doing that.
    The Coast Guard men and women that do this work they 
understand the work. They enjoy the work. They take meaning and 
value from the work. Again, it is critical to our national 
security as we work to create homeland security.
    Mr. Brecheen. Now, I want to switch topics. With regards to 
the cutter and in terms of the contract, you have every 
expectation that what will happen is with the design still 
being tweaked this late and you have already awarded a 
contract, they turned in the, you know, they turned in a bid. 
It was awarded by the Government.
    They have already been establishing an increase in their 
spend to be able to have the capacity. I don't know what that 
would look like, if it is cranes, if it is footprint, if it is 
size, to be able to do something which, you know, is a very 
limited scope specialty.
    But if your design is not complete they are going to issue 
a massive change order and then what wiggle room in negotiation 
does the Federal Government have, to make sure that that 
awarded contract--that they just don't name the price and we 
have the ability to say wait a minute? That is way outside of 
bounds.
    I don't understand why the design where you have 2 in 
operation right now and we are just wanting to add another one 
that is updated, why is it taking so long to get the design 
that we know is going to be eaten financially up by change 
orders?
    Admiral Fagan. We have not built a polar security cutter or 
a heavy icebreaker as a Nation for nearly 50 years. It will be 
a big, complex ship. I am confident in the design and that when 
we field that ship it will meet the needs of the Nation.
    We have been working with the shipbuilder to get to the 
level of design you need when you begin to cut steel that the 
ship is going to be, you know, delivered with a predictable 
schedule and predictable budget. I owe the committee an update 
on schedule and budget.
    We have been building modules that the shipyard has been 
learning from with regard to the complexity of welding and 
assembly. Those modules will eventually come forward into the 
ship that we are building.
    I am confident in the builder that we have the contract in.
    Mr. Brecheen. I yield.
    Mr. Luttrell. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Crane, you are recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral Fagan, thank you so much for coming today. I want 
to start by asking you to tell me about recruitment deficits 
that you have seen.
    Admiral Fagan. We began to have a deficit in recruiting 
several years ago and it was exasperated by COVID. We have seen 
the rebound from the COVID effect.
    I appreciate the support of the committee and our overseers 
who have allowed us to make investments back into recruiters. 
We have professionalized our talent acquisition specialists. 
All of that has paid dividends.
    We have, as of 2 weeks ago, the number of reservations, so 
that means people who are planning to go through Cape May that 
we need to consider a full, successful year and meet our 
recruiting.
    The work force we are recruiting is second to none. They 
know why they are joining and they understand the value 
proposition to the American public.
    Mr. Crane. Why do you think you guys are failing to hit 
your numbers right now?
    Admiral Fagan. It was a combination of capacity and we have 
reinvested in that capacity. We are not always understood by 
the totality of the American people. So, you know, beginning to 
increase awareness and understanding of who we are as a Coast 
Guard.
    Just as the shipyards are looking for work force, you know, 
we are competing with employers and other militaries of, you 
know, across the country for work force and, you know, young 
people have had some feelings with regard to work and all of 
that has come together to make it a challenge.
    Mr. Crane. Yes. Thank you, Admiral. What additional 
workload has been put on the Coast Guard and our sailors 
because we have a Commander-in-Chief who signaled to the rest 
of the entire world that we were about to throw our Southern 
Border wide open?
    I know that you have to be careful in how you answer that. 
I will make that claim because I know I am able to watch cause 
and effect and I am not in your position. I don't wear your 
uniform and that is not my chain of command.
    But with the policy changes of this Federal Government over 
the last couple years, what additional workload has that put on 
your work force, Admiral?
    Admiral Fagan. We view our role in preventing and 
interdicting migrants at sea as critical life-saving work, and 
we continue to ensure that we have got presence that is needed 
to prevent----
    Mr. Crane. Real quick, that is not what I asked you. I know 
that that is a part of what you guys have to do and it does 
absorb resources. I am asking you to give us an understanding 
of how much of an additional workload that has put on your 
resources, your infrastructure, your personnel because of the 
policy? Can you even give me a percentage?
    Admiral Fagan. Certainly happy to come over and we can walk 
you through all of the flows of migrants over the last several 
years. This year and today----
    Mr. Crane. Has there been any study to calculate the 
additional man-hours that is----
    Admiral Fagan. I can share with you the ebb and flow of 
man-hours and resources that we have put into the migrant----
    Mr. Crane. But you don't know if off of the top of your 
head, Admiral?
    Admiral Fagan. No, I don't.
    Mr. Crane. OK.
    Admiral Fagan. I don't because those resources also do 
other missions as we have them at sea. But happy to work with 
your staff and give you more specifics.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you, Admiral. Admiral Fagan, how do you 
assess the current state of readiness and preparedness of the 
U.S. Coast Guard to operate and respond effectively in the 
Arctic region, especially coordinating with your naval 
counterparts?
    Admiral Fagan. We operate the Nation's surface assets in 
the Arctic and the Coast Guard cutter Healy, in fact, is 
operating in the high latitudes today conducting science 
operations, creating presence for us as a Nation.
    We work and interoperate up there with other military 
services, other Arctic nations' military services, and we 
create that on-scene presence in our own exclusive economic 
zone in the Arctic.
    Mr. Crane. Admiral Fagan, what DEI program implementations 
have been made in the Coast Guard within the last couple of 
years?
    Admiral Fagan. We are hiring talent as a service, the best 
talent that----
    Mr. Crane. I don't need the bullet point, ma'am. We all 
know that every institution within this Federal Government has 
now been plagued by this cancer of DEI instead of hiring people 
based on their merit alone. I am asking you what programs have 
been implemented within the last couple of years that focus 
solely on diversity, equity, and inclusion?
    Admiral Fagan. I will have the staff give you--we value 
diversity, but the talent that we----
    Mr. Crane. Ma'am, we have always valued diversity in this 
country, but we all know that we used to have a system that was 
more based on merit. I am asking you specific questions about 
what specific programs have been implemented under your watch 
within the last couple of years that focus on DEI?
    Admiral Fagan. I will have the staff work with your staff. 
I can't immediately say this program initiated in the last 2 
years. Again, the programs all focus on ensuring work force 
that meets the standards, is able to serve honorably in the 
Service, and that we hire a work force that meets our 
standards.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you, Admiral.
    Mr. Gimenez [presiding]. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Crane. I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Alabama, Mr. 
Strong.
    Mr. Strong. Thank you, Chairman Gimenez.
    Thank you for coming before the committee today, Admiral. I 
recognize and appreciate the growing deployment of the Coast 
Guard cutters to meet the threats around the world and note our 
Coast Guard is spending additional time deployed away from the 
United States.
    This is especially true as the Coast Guard plays a key role 
in responding to China's actions in the South Sea throughout 
the Indo-Pacific. I do have some concerns, however, about the 
impact these deployments could have on our fleet.
    Admiral, what impact has the increased deployment tempo in 
the Indo-Pacific had on the cutter fleet?
    Admiral Fagan. We are globally deployed as a Coast Guard 
and we conduct Coast Guard operations consistent with our 
authority. The work that we are doing in the Indo-Pacific is 
critical to countering China and to increasing other partners' 
capacity to enforce their own sovereignty and improve their own 
capacity and capability.
    The Pacific support tender Harriet Lane is a perfect 
example of how a Coast Guard ship with Coast Guard authorities 
can create capacity and opportunity for a partner nation.
    Mr. Strong. What is the concept for conducting maintenance 
on forward-operating cutters moving forward?
    Admiral Fagan. So we continue to look at how we support 
cutters forward. When the large cutters are over in theater 
they are under the operational control of our DOD counterparts 
and we rely on them for logistic supports.
    The fast response cutters have been fielded into the 
region. We have got several in Guam and we continue to look at 
innovative ways to ensure we have got the right maintenance and 
support for cutters as they are forward-deployed.
    Mr. Strong. Thank you. What resources are currently 
available in the Indo-Pacific to the Coast Guard to conduct 
high-level scheduled and emergency maintenance to the fleet?
    Admiral Fagan. So, as I said, we rely heavily on the DOD 
services and investments that are over there, primarily the 
large cutters. We run them through their standard maintenance 
cycles focused on shipyard availability and continue to work to 
ensure that we are appropriately supporting the fast response 
cutters as they conduct operations in the theater. A lot of 
that is in conversation with my DOD counterparts.
    Mr. Strong. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. The gentleman yields.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. 
Menendez.
    Mr. Menendez. Mr. Chair, Mr. Ranking Member, thank you for 
convening today's hearing.
    I thank you for coming here today.
    The U.S. maritime ports were largely unaffected by last 
week's CrowdStrike outage. That event showed the swift and 
severe consequences of IT disruptions. Given the reliance of 
global supply on the efficient transportation of cargo through 
maritime ports, IT disruptions at ports, such as the Port of 
New York and New Jersey, would have a significant impact on the 
U.S. and world economy.
    It is imperative that we advance policies that will make 
our ports more resilient. In February 2024, the Coast Guard 
issued a notice proposing an update to its maritime security 
regulation by adding regulations specifically focused on 
establishing minimum cybersecurity requirements for U.S.-
flagged vessels and ports.
    Admiral, please explain why the Coast Guard believes such a 
rule change is necessary?
    Admiral Fagan. Cyber and cybersecurity is as critical to 
our infrastructure, resiliency, and readiness as hardware and 
infrastructure. We have invested our own cyber force expertise 
and now the intent of the rule making is to ensure that we have 
got the right clarity around standards for vessels and 
facilities.
    We issued a notice of proposed rule making, opened a 
comment period. That comment period is now closed. We have had 
over 400 comments. We are listening to what was said and are 
working to work that rule forward so that it creates increased 
resiliency around cyber in our critical maritime port 
infrastructure.
    Mr. Menendez. Can you summarize sort-of what, generally, 
what the feedback has been from those roughly 400 or so 
comments?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. I have not seen the comments but they 
focus on, you know, just ensuring that it sets the right 
standard and fair playing field for mitigating risk in cyber 
across realm. I am happy to work with the staff on, you know, 
details, but, obviously, 400 comments is going to take us some 
time to work through them.
    Mr. Menendez. Yes. I am sure this is also harmonizing, 
right, because there are so many different operators from so 
many different regions under so many different regulatory 
regimes and ensuring that they understand sort-of what this 
rule would mean for them as they operate in sort-of multiple 
jurisdictions.
    I would love to work with you. I was actually just in a 
cybersecurity meeting with our Cybersecurity Subcommittee 
chair, Andrew Garbarino. This is something that we would love 
to partner with you, given our port infrastructure in the 
district and our work on the Cybersecurity Subcommittee.
    I want to turn to work force. You mentioned that 
modernizing the talent management system, which has remained 
unchanged for 75 years, is a top priority. Like many of my 
colleagues, I am concerned that the work force shortage will 
prevent the Coast Guard from effectively responding to a major 
event like a natural disaster.
    Before I get to my question, I do want to mention that you 
have a terrific First District military aide, Melanie Arroyo, 
who is a proud product of Bayonne, New Jersey. She is an all-
star and I am proud that she is a member of the Coast Guard. So 
I just wanted to give her a shout-out. The mayor of Bayonne is 
extremely proud of her. We all are.
    But if the Coast Guard is required to respond to a large-
scale emergency today would it have the staffing and resources 
it needs to do so while maintaining its various mission 
capabilities? Or would it have to scale back missions or make 
other changes?
    Admiral Fagan. So our role in crisis leadership and 
disaster response is one of the core strengths of the Coast 
Guard, and we remain always ready to respond in time of need, 
whether it is a hurricane, or look no further than the response 
to the Francis Scott Key Bridge, which showcases the 
flexibility and nimbleness that we bring as a maritime 
organization, a military, a law enforcement agency.
    We continue to view that as critical work that we provide 
to the American public and ensure that we stay nimble and 
responsive should that need arise again. Or I should say when 
that need arises again.
    Mr. Menendez. Of course. I appreciate that. On May 14, 
2024, the House passed my bill, H.R. 7702, as part of the Coast 
Guard Reauthorization Act of 2024. This legislation was 
introduced in response to the tragic vessel fire in Newark last 
July, which claimed the lives of 2 brave firefighters, Augusto 
``Auggie'' Acabou and Wayne ``Bear'' Brooks, Jr., both Newark 
firefighters.
    To address the significant risk posed by vessel fires, what 
are the Coast Guard's current capabilities for coordinating 
with local firefighting units and other stakeholders to ensure 
effective response prevention measure for vessel fires?
    Admiral Fagan. So our role in the ports and communities is 
to bring all of the entities together, response entities and 
port facilities, to ensure that lines of authority and 
capabilities are well-understood. That is done in New York 
through the Area Maritime Security Committee.
    You know, we continue to serve in a coordinating and a 
convening role to ensure that all entities with capacity and 
authority are able to talk to each other and understand before 
the response happens.
    Mr. Menendez. I appreciate that, and I appreciate your work 
on all fronts. Thank you again for being here today.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the gentleman from New Jersey.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentlewoman from Georgia, Ms. 
Greene.
    Ms. Greene. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Since the start of the 118th Congress, our committee has 
been laser-focused on securing our border and stopping the flow 
of illegal migration and illegal narcotics. The Coast Guard 
plays a significant role in DHS's posture on the maritime 
border.
    Most of us have seen videos on social media of Coast Guard 
boarding teams seizing drug boats and stopping boats overladen 
with migrants attempting to illegally enter the United States. 
We are thankful to the Coast Guard and the hard work that they 
do on behalf of the United States.
    Admiral Fagan, on average, how many illegal aliens does the 
Coast Guard interdict in a year?
    Admiral Fagan. The number of interdictions that we 
encounter at sea has varied significantly year to year. This 
year to date the numbers have been quite low in comparison to 
previous years. Happy to have the staff come over and walk you 
through 3 to 5 years' worth of maritime migration interdiction 
numbers.
    Creating on-water presence helps prevent that flow, and 
also policy clarity with regard to consequences for illegal 
attempts to migrate also have a significant impact on whether 
the numbers are up or down. Weather gets a vote, too.
    Ms. Greene. Right, certainly understood. Thank you. We 
would probably take you up on that offer. I would appreciate 
it.
    What countries are the most frequent countries where people 
are illegally trying to enter the United States?
    Admiral Fagan. I will speak to the maritime migration 
flows. The typical nationalities encountered at sea are Haiti 
and Cuba. There are some onesie, twosies, and again, can walk 
through all that, but primarily at sea it is Haiti and Haitians 
and Cubans.
    Ms. Greene. On average, how many drug boats does the Coast 
Guard intercept every year? I know you may not have the number 
in front of you.
    Admiral Fagan. Our counternarcotics mission work in the 
Eastern Pacific and in the Caribbean is critical. It, too, is 
life-saving work preventing narcotics from reaching the streets 
of the United States and resulting in overdoses.
    This is a line of effort that we work in conjunction with 
other allies and our DOD partners, and we continue to interdict 
primarily cocaine but some marijuana as well at sea. That is 
work that Coast Guard members are doing right now as we sit in 
this hearing room. Again, can walk you through those annual 
reports and numbers, but it is critical life-saving and 
national security work we do on behalf of the Nation.
    Ms. Greene. Well, we thank the Coast Guard for that. On 
average, how many pounds of narcotics does the Coast Guard 
seize every year? That is pretty much what you just alluded to, 
cocaine and mostly cocaine you said? Some marijuana?
    Admiral Fagan. The majority that we see at sea in the 
maritime flow is cocaine, but we are also seeing marijuana and 
occasionally we will find some fentanyl or methanol. Again, 
happy to walk you through all that. It varies year to year, 
month to month.
    Ms. Greene. Of the total migrant and drug boats that sail 
from Central and South America or Cuba or Haiti, what 
percentage does the Coast Guard interdict with and what 
percentage evades detection?
    Admiral Fagan. So when we detect a migrant venture, you 
know, we work then to follow it and interdict at sea. The 
ability to detect, particularly vessels that are not on the 
high seas, can be a challenge.
    When we detect the vessel we move to interdict. I don't 
have off-hand what the estimate on the number of interdictions 
versus number of getaways but it is life-saving work to ensure 
people don't lose their lives as they make these incredibly 
hazardous journeys to at sea.
    Ms. Greene. How many migrants do lose their lives? I would 
imagine there are some that don't make it.
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. Our goal is to prevent that loss of 
life but there have been loss of life in the maritime flows. 
Would be happy to share what the estimates are. That as well 
varies year to year.
    Ms. Greene. Dangerous job for the Coast Guard as well. Has 
there been loss of life for members of the Coast Guard?
    Admiral Fagan. We have been very fortunate that our members 
have not been killed, but it is dangerous work. We continue to 
ensure we have got the right training and policy and procedures 
to mitigate that risk, but it is work that we happily do on 
behalf of the Nation and will continue to lean into.
    I am committed to ensuring my work force has all the tools 
and training they need to do it safely.
    Ms. Greene. Thank you, Admiral Fagan.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Crane [presiding.] Thank you.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana, Mr. 
Carter.
    Mr. Carter. Well, thank you for your service. We know your 
job is not an easy one, and we have the utmost respect for 
anyone who wears the uniform and protects our flank. So God 
bless you, ma'am.
    As the climate changes, the frequency and intensity of 
extreme weather events are increasing. This summer a prolonged 
and intense heat wave has impacted millions across our country. 
Hurricane Beryl, which recently hit the Caribbean and Texas, 
was the earliest-ever category 5 Atlantic hurricane.
    This was fueled by the ocean being as warm in June as it is 
typically would be in September after months of summer fun or 
summer sun, rather. We still have many weeks left of summer and 
months left of hurricane season. How has extreme weather fueled 
by climate change impacted the Coast Guard's operation?
    Admiral Fagan. We are, obviously, deployed or employed 
along the coast line and so as weather events and flooding 
events intensify it impacts our infrastructure. As we have 
rebuilt the post-hurricanes in previous years we moved to 
rebuild that infrastructure so it is resilient to those kinds 
of impacts from climate change.
    Our role as a first responder, disaster responder, leader 
in disaster, we continue to hone those skills and, you know, I 
am certain, whether it was the Francis Scott Key Bridge or 
Beryl or the next disaster, that the Coast Guard people will be 
there and ready to lead and support the Nation.
    Mr. Carter. Can you speak to the precautions the Coast 
Guard has taken to protect its people and its physical assets 
in light of the increasingly hot summer and intense storms 
anticipated?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. We continue as opportunity presents 
itself to make investments in our infrastructure to make them 
more ready and more resilient to the impacts of both 
temperature and water events and will continue to look for 
those opportunities to make those investments in the future.
    Mr. Carter. How does the Coast Guard support Hurricane 
Beryl response efforts and how well-prepared, in your 
estimations, is the Coast Guard to respond to future events?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. The Coast Guard takes our role in 
responding to hurricanes quite seriously. We do a lot of work 
as the hurricane is approaching a coastal area to ensure that 
our ports and our harbors are resilient, that our own equipment 
and people are out of harm's way.
    We posture and we assure that as the storm passes and we 
are able to begin moving primarily, you know, aviation assets 
and boats that we are in a position to do critical life-saving 
work and then move to bring the alignment of Federal, State, 
and local responders together to ensure that those communities' 
needs are being met and met in a way that is responsive to 
whatever the impacts of the storm was.
    Mr. Carter. Has it been effective, ma'am, working with 
local and State GOHSEPs and the like to make sure that the 
deployment of resources are timely dispatched and the 
assistance is met with the coordination that is required?
    Admiral Fagan. Yes. In our ports and communities our 
captain of the ports, who are, you know, 06 captain level in 
each of the major ports in the country, they convene the other 
Federal, State, and local responders.
    This happens in the good times so that when an actual 
disaster or response has occurred those people in the port they 
know each other. They understand authorities and capabilities 
and are able to come together much more quickly for alignment 
on response.
    The Francis Scott Key Bridge is a perfect example of how 
all that comes together for great benefit for both the local 
community and the Nation.
    Mr. Carter. As I often say, we know when these storms are 
coming, we know their names. They tend to come faster, stay 
longer, and come with greater intensity. God forbid that we 
don't learn from each storm to make sure that we are not doing 
the same thing over and over again and expecting a different 
result.
    Including the local communities is paramount in making sure 
in the pre-, during, and post-effects that the people are well-
informed of access and opportunities to stay safe.
    Real quickly, through U.S. maritime ports, though the U.S. 
maritime ports were largely unaffected by last week's 
CrowdStrike outage, the event showed the swift and severe 
consequences of IT disruptions.
    Given the resilience of the global supply on the efficient 
transportation of cargo, how are we addressing those concerns?
    Admiral Fagan. We take our role in cyber as it pertains to 
the marine transportation system seriously. We have been 
investing in our own cyber expertise in cyber capacity.
    We are in the process of a notice of proposed rule making 
to clarify standards with regard to cyber, cyber readiness, 
cyber resiliency as it pertains to ships and facilities and 
continue to work on ensuring we have got the most resilient 
marine transportation system that the Nation needs.
    Mr. Carter. Thank you, ma'am. My time has expired.
    As I opened I will close the same way. Ma'am, thank you for 
your service and all the men and women of the Coast Guard for 
the incredible work that you do.
    Admiral Fagan. Thank you.
    Mr. Carter. Mr. Chairman, I yield.
    Mr. Crane. The Chairman now recognizes the gentleman from 
Texas, Mr. Gonzales.
    Mr. Gonzales. Thank you, Chairman.
    Thank you, Commandant, for being here. I want to follow up 
to my colleague from Arizona his questions on DEI because I am 
also concerned with that.
    I think back to my time in the military where we had 
mandatory training and some of that mandatory training I 
thought was appropriate as a master chief. Sometimes I thought 
it was busy work. Parts of it was busy work. Then some of it I 
thought took us away from doing our job.
    So the question for you is how many hours of mandatory DEI 
training do Coast Guardsmen have?
    Admiral Fagan. We have a number of mandated general 
military training requirements. I don't know of a stand-alone 
course. We would have to look into each of those to understand 
is there a DEI component.
    My focus on the Service is hiring talent that meets the 
standards and then ensuring when a member has taken their oath 
and decided to serve that they encounter an environment that is 
free from harm and that is intolerant of harm and where 
everyone is valued and able to achieve their fullest potential.
    Mr. Gonzales. I would appreciate it if we can get back with 
maybe a number of hours on that as you dig through it. Once 
again, I am concerned that we take away from our job and your 
job is very important. It is very critical.
    I would also say DEI does not equal diversity in many 
cases, but I will leave it there. I would love to follow up 
with you on that part.
    Now, to talk a little bit of tactical, JIATF South. I am a 
proponent of JIATF South. I think it is the gold standard in 
many cases of bringing interagencies together and success. 
Outside of being on Homeland Security, I am also on the 
Homeland Security Committee--I am also on Appropriations.
    So my question is very clear to you. JIATF South plays a 
critical component to counternarcotics and maritime security. 
What additional resources, money, right, how much money do you 
need in order to have Coast Guard successes increase 
specifically when talking about JIATF South?
    Admiral Fagan. I agree JIATF South is absolutely the gold 
standard in not just interagency alignment but also 
international partner alignment as they do all of the detection 
and monitoring for the counternarcotics effort.
    Specific to the U.S. Coast Guard needs, it comes back to 
our major ship acquisition programs, ensuring that we have got 
reliable budget authority and appropriation for our 
acquisitions, particularly the offshore patrol cutter which the 
first one was launched in the fall.
    But creating ship capacity that creates the force package 
that gives you end game in JIATF is really where the sweet spot 
is for the Coast Guard.
    Mr. Gonzales. Excellent, and I look forward to continuing 
to work together. I think one of the issues has always been the 
lack of platforms that JIATF South has in order to operate. The 
mission always grew. There was always plenty of work. There was 
just not enough assets to go above because you were oftentimes 
competing with other areas.
    Once again, as I put my appropriator hat on, if there is 
any way I can help in that, would love to work with your team, 
maybe more specifics outside of the overall umbrella, but more 
specifics in order to build that out. I am very interested in 
that.
    My next question is on CrowdStrike. The CrowdStrike IT 
outage impacted the world. On that day, the U.S. Coast Guard 
Southeast posted via X, ``The nationwide connectivity outage 
are impacting the U.S. Coast Guard Rescue 21 systems and #D7. 
For urgent distress, please use VHF radio 16 to reach out to 
the Coast Guard or dial the Seventh District command center.'' 
Was this an isolated incident or was this Coast Guard-wide?
    Admiral Fagan. So the CrowdStrike incident that we all 
tracked as a Nation early on that day and Friday was not the 
cause of the Rescue 21 outage. Instead, it was a hardware 
failure on a Verizon system that we rely on for some of our 
network.
    We continue to work to troubleshoot that. Understand it was 
a Coast Guard-wide impact to the Rescue 21. Speaks to the need 
to ensure our own resiliency in our own IT infrastructure and 
welcome further discussion to see where we might be able to 
make more investments.
    Mr. Gonzales. To that point, I would like to continue to 
work together on future situations where we can make this--you 
know, we can prevent this from happening.
    My last question is on an article from DefenseScoop of last 
year that highlighted ``Coast Guard petitions for formal 
recognition to the U.S. Cyber Command Force.'' Given the Coast 
Guard's unique cyber positions and its dual role under the 
Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense, how 
will this formal recognition within U.S. Cyber Mission Force 
enhance Coast Guard's cyber capabilities?
    Admiral Fagan. We have been investing in our cyber 
capabilities both internal to the organization and the work we 
do in support of USCYBERCOM and with USCYBERCOM. Happy to have 
staff come over. There are a number of Classified elements to 
it but walk you through all that is going on and how we 
contribute to the broader cyber fight in defense of the Nation.
    Mr. Gonzales. We covered a lot of ground in 5 minutes but, 
once again, these cyber issues aren't going away. The Coast 
Guard is the tip of the spear in many cases and I want to make 
sure that you have a partner not only in me, but also in this 
committee.
    Admiral Fagan. Thank you.
    Mr. Gonzales. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Michigan, Mr. 
Thanedar.
    Mr. Thanedar. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Thank you, Admiral Fagan, for being here and I thank the 
men and women of Coast Guard for their hard work.
    Operation Fouled Anchor revealed a culture at the Coast 
Guard Academy that allowed abuse to persist and go unchecked. 
Senior cadets were given power over junior cadets that they 
misused and cadets were rarely held to account. Allegations 
were downgraded and dismissed.
    The academy insulated itself from the rest of the Service 
by handling allegations internally and sealed records. 
According to the final report of investigation, victims did not 
receive respect consistent with Coast Guard's core values on 
several levels. These are facts, Admiral Fagan.
    I would like to better understand the standards of 
character for cadets at the Coast Guard Academy as they are 
now. If a cadet was found severely liable for sexually abusing 
and defaming a woman, would that violate the Coast Guard's code 
of conduct?
    Admiral Fagan. The Fouled Anchor investigation revealed to 
us inadequate handling and investigation of sexual assaults 
reported by cadets in the 1980's and 1990's at the Coast Guard 
Academy. One assault is one assault too many, and we are not 
the same organization today that we were then when we failed to 
create the appropriate environment for reports of sexual 
assault.
    The standard at the Coast Guard Academy is the same 
standard that we have in the Service and that is that we will 
not tolerate sexual assault, harassment, retaliation, 
retribution, hazing, bullying. Growing a culture that is fully 
intolerant of that change where people have the courage to act, 
to report, and that there is trust in the system is the work 
that we are doing.
    Mr. Thanedar. Well, let me ask you, if 18 women accused a 
cadet of having a history of disgusting and at times criminal 
behavior toward women, including sexual harassment and sexual 
assault, would that cadet be allowed to serve?
    Admiral Fagan. Those reports today result in a full 
investigation. When substantiated and misconduct is found those 
cadets are not allowed to graduate.
    Mr. Thanedar. All right. If a cadet had a history of making 
public vulgar and profanity-laced remarks about women, so 
vulgar that I cannot read them here today, would that cadet be 
considered fit for service?
    Admiral Fagan. We would fully investigate. With that report 
we would fully investigate it and determine whether the 
behavior--and it does not sound like it is consistent with our 
core values, and hold that cadet accountable, the same as we 
would with any member of the Service who is found to have 
conducted themselves inconsistently with our core values.
    Mr. Thanedar. Would that cadet be considered fit for 
service?
    Admiral Fagan. No, but again, consistent with policy, 
program, and our core values. I won't tolerate misconduct. I 
don't tolerate criminal behavior when it is reported and it 
comes to light and we investigate it. We will move to ensure 
accountability and that means in some cases removal from 
service, other cases reduction in grade.
    We have a number of tools and we will fully leverage those 
tools when somebody is found to have, No. 1, crimes and the 
criminal system has been well-invested in, but other misconduct 
as well must be addressed.
    Mr. Thanedar. Thank you, Admiral Fagan. Obviously, these 
behaviors are unacceptable for all Coast Guard service members 
from candidates to senior leaders and, in fact, for any leaders 
in this country. Do you agree?
    Admiral Fagan. I hold myself and the work force to the 
highest standards of ethics and integrity. Our core values of 
honor, respect, and devotion to duty guide us in all that we 
do, both on and off duty. We must hold ourselves to the highest 
standards.
    Mr. Thanedar. Thank you, Admiral.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Crane. I want to thank the witness for her valuable 
testimony and the Members for their questions. The Members of 
the committee may have some additional questions for you, 
Admiral, and we would ask that you respond to these in writing.
    Pursuant to committee rule VII(D), the hearing record will 
be open for 10 days.
    OK. Ranking Member Thompson would like to make a closing 
statement.
    Mr. Thompson. Well, one of things I didn't get a chance to 
say, Admiral, is let me thank the gold standard of the Coast 
Guard for being johnny-on-the-spot as first responders.
    I went through Katrina and a lot of other stuff and I know 
Congressman Carter and others who--Congressman Ezell, who 
represents the Gulf of Mexico area, really appreciate it. I 
have seen the work.
    The men and women do a stellar job as first responders. I 
mean, it is sort-of like when they show up you know the real 
help is there. So I want to just compliment you for doing that.
    Your mission is critical. Everybody here, it talks about 
putting resources where they need to be. I would encourage you 
to go back and ask for more, whether it is in a supplemental 
that we expect in the not-too-distant future or something, and 
let's see if we can't get you where you need to be from a 
resource standpoint so it is good.
    But also I need your commitment that once the inspector 
general finishes his work that you will take whatever action 
necessary to do it. It is a black eye on the Coast Guard that 
women who serve are being harassed and others and we just can't 
have it.
    So it has been documented and I encourage you to once the 
work is complete that your commitment is that we will get it 
done, and I know you will do that.
    But also, Mr. Chairman, last summer this committee passed 
Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee's cyber work force bill, but 
it has not yet been considered on the floor. In the 
Congresswoman's honor, I urged the Chairman to ensure that her 
bill is considered and passed this Congress. I think it would 
be a fitting tribute to her legacy on this committee.
    I look forward to working with you to get it done. We 
didn't have any opposition to it, so it should go forward 
without any delay. I look forward to working with whoever to 
make that happen.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Crane. Without objection, this committee stands 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:27 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]

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