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     FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024: STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVES ON 
                             IMPLEMENTATION

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                                AVIATION

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                   TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                           DECEMBER 11, 2024

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             COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

  Sam Graves, Missouri, Chairman
 Rick Larsen, Washington, Ranking 
              Member
Eleanor Holmes Norton,               Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford, 
  District of Columbia               Arkansas
Grace F. Napolitano, California      Daniel Webster, Florida
Steve Cohen, Tennessee               Thomas Massie, Kentucky
John Garamendi, California           Scott Perry, Pennsylvania
Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., Georgiaian Babin, Texas
Andre Carson, Indiana                Garret Graves, Louisiana
Dina Titus, Nevada                   David Rouzer, North Carolina
Jared Huffman, California            Mike Bost, Illinois
Julia Brownley, California           Doug LaMalfa, California
Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         Bruce Westerman, Arkansas
Mark DeSaulnier, California          Brian J. Mast, Florida
Salud O. Carbajal, California        Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon,
Greg Stanton, Arizona,                 Puerto Rico
  Vice Ranking Member                Pete Stauber, Minnesota
Colin Z. Allred, Texas               Tim Burchett, Tennessee
Sharice Davids, Kansas               Dusty Johnson, South Dakota
Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey,
Chris Pappas, New Hampshire            Vice Chairman
Seth Moulton, Massachusetts          Troy E. Nehls, Texas
Jake Auchincloss, Massachusetts      Tracey Mann, Kansas
Marilyn Strickland, Washington       Burgess Owens, Utah
Troy A. Carter, Louisiana            Rudy Yakym III, Indiana
Patrick Ryan, New York               Lori Chavez-DeRemer, Oregon
Mary Sattler Peltola, Alaska         Thomas H. Kean, Jr., New Jersey
Robert Menendez, New Jersey          Anthony D'Esposito, New York
Val T. Hoyle, Oregon                 Eric Burlison, Missouri
Emilia Strong Sykes, Ohio            Derrick Van Orden, Wisconsin
Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        Brandon Williams, New York
Valerie P. Foushee, North Carolina   Marcus J. Molinaro, New York
Christopher R. Deluzio, Pennsylvania Mike Collins, Georgia
                                     Mike Ezell, Mississippi
                                     John S. Duarte, California
                                     Aaron Bean, Florida
                                     Celeste Maloy, Utah
                                     Kevin Kiley, California
                                     Vince Fong, California

                        Subcommittee on Aviation

Garret Graves, Louisiana, Chairman
 Steve Cohen, Tennessee, Ranking 
              Member
Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., Georgiaic A. ``Rick'' Crawford, 
Andre Carson, Indiana                Arkansas
Julia Brownley, California           Thomas Massie, Kentucky
Mark DeSaulnier, California          Scott Perry, Pennsylvania
Greg Stanton, Arizona                Bruce Westerman, Arkansas
Colin Z. Allred, Texas               Brian J. Mast, Florida
Sharice Davids, Kansas               Pete Stauber, Minnesota
Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   Tim Burchett, Tennessee
Jake Auchincloss, Massachusetts      Dusty Johnson, South Dakota
Mary Sattler Peltola, Alaska,        Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey
  Vice Ranking Member                Tracey Mann, Kansas
Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        Burgess Owens, Utah
Dina Titus, Nevada                   Rudy Yakym III, Indiana, Vice 
Salud O. Carbajal, California        Chairman
Robert Menendez, New Jersey          Lori Chavez-DeRemer, Oregon
Eleanor Holmes Norton,               Thomas H. Kean, Jr., New Jersey
  District of Columbia               Anthony D'Esposito, New York
Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         Marcus J. Molinaro, New York
Christopher R. Deluzio, Pennsylvania Mike Collins, Georgia
Rick Larsen, Washington (Ex Officio) Aaron Bean, Florida
                                     Kevin Kiley, California
                                     Vince Fong, California
                                     Sam Graves, Missouri (Ex Officio)


                                CONTENTS

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Summary of Subject Matter........................................   vii

                 STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

Hon. Garret Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State 
  of Louisiana, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Aviation, opening 
  statement......................................................     1
    Prepared statement...........................................     4
Hon. Steve Cohen, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Tennessee, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Aviation, 
  opening statement..............................................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................     6
Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Missouri, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, opening statement..............................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................     7
Hon. Rick Larsen, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Washington, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, opening statement..............................     7
    Prepared statement...........................................    10

                               WITNESSES

Jason Terreri, Executive Director, Syracuse Regional Airport 
  Authority, on behalf of the Airports Council International-
  North America (ACI-NA), oral statement.........................    16
    Prepared statement...........................................    18
Adam Woodworth, Chief Executive Officer, Wing Aviation LLC, oral 
  statement......................................................    21
    Prepared statement...........................................    23
Peter J. Bunce, President and Chief Executive Officer, General 
  Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA), oral statement......    25
    Prepared statement...........................................    27
Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO 
  (TTD), oral statement..........................................    31
    Prepared statement...........................................    33

                       SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD

Submissions for the Record by Hon. Garret Graves:
    Statement of Michael Robbins, President and Chief Executive 
      Officer, Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems 
      International, and Lisa Ellman, Executive Director, 
      Commercial Drone Alliance..................................    12
    Statement of Robert W. Rose, Cofounder and Chief Executive 
      Officer, Reliable Robotics Corporation.....................    13
Letter of December 10, 2024, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and 
  Hon. Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation 
  and Infrastructure, and Hon. Garret Graves, Chairman, and Hon. 
  Steve Cohen, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Aviation, from 
  Andre Sutton, Air Division Director, International Vice 
  President, Transport Workers Union of America, Submitted for 
  the Record by Hon. Steve Cohen.................................    40

                                APPENDIX

Question to Jason Terreri, Executive Director, Syracuse Regional 
  Airport Authority, on behalf of the Airports Council 
  International-North America (ACI-NA), from Hon. Brandon 
  Williams.......................................................    69
Question to Adam Woodworth, Chief Executive Officer, Wing 
  Aviation LLC, from Hon. Dina Titus.............................    69
Questions to Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
  Department, AFL-CIO (TTD), from:
    Hon. Dina Titus..............................................    70
    Hon. Christopher R. Deluzio..................................    71




                            December 9, 2024

    SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER

    TO:      LMembers, Subcommittee on Aviation
    FROM:  LStaff, Subcommittee on Aviation
    RE:      LSubcommittee Hearing on ``FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024: Stakeholder Perspectives on Implementation''
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                               I. PURPOSE

    The Subcommittee on Aviation of the Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure will meet on Wednesday, 
December 11, 2024, at 10:00 a.m. in 2167 Rayburn House Office 
Building to hold a hearing entitled, ``FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024: Stakeholder Perspectives on Implementation.'' The 
hearing will provide representatives of the aerospace industry 
an opportunity to share their perspectives on the progress made 
by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Department of 
Transportation (DOT) in implementing the FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024. The Subcommittee will hear testimony from 
witnesses representing the Airports Council International-North 
America (ACI-NA), Wing, the General Aviation Manufacturer's 
Association (GAMA), and the Transportation Trades Department, 
AFL-CIO (TTD).

                             II. BACKGROUND

    On May 16, 2024, President Biden signed into law H.R. 3935, 
the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 (FAARA 2024; P.L. 118-
63).\1\ FAARA 2024 reauthorizes civil aviation programs within 
the FAA and DOT through fiscal year (FY) 2028 and reauthorizes 
the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the 
same period. Enactment of FAARA 2024 followed a series of four 
short-term extensions of authorizations after the most recent 
long-term reauthorization bill, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 
2018 (FAARA 2018; P.L. 115-254), expired on October 1, 2023.\2\ 
Support for final passage of H.R. 3935 was overwhelmingly 
bipartisan in both chambers; the Senate passed an amendment to 
H.R. 3935 with a vote of 88-4 and the House agreed to the 
amendment with a vote of 387-26.\3\
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    \1\ Press Release, The White House, Bill Signed: H.R. 3935, (May 
16, 2024), available at https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/
statements-releases/2024/05/16/press-release-bill-signed-h-r-3935/.
    \2\ See Div. B, Title II of the Continuing Appropriations Act, 2024 
and Other Extensions Act, Pub. L. No. 118-15, 137 Stat. 71; Airport and 
Airway Extension Act of 2023, Part II, Pub. Law No. 118-34; Airport and 
Airway Extension Act of 2024, Pub. L. No. 118-41; Airport and Airway 
Extension Act of 2024, Part II, Pub. L. No. 118-60.
    \3\ Concur in the S. Amdt to H.R. 3935, Clerk, United States House 
of Representatives, Roll Call 200, 118th Cong., 2nd Session, (May 15, 
2024), available at https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024200.; H.R. 3935, 
as amended, Clerk, United States Senate, Roll Call 162, 118th Cong., 
2nd Session, (May 9, 2024), available at https://www.senate.gov/
legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1182/vote_118_2_00162.htm.
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        III. KEY PILLARS OF THE FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024

    In developing FAARA 2024, the Committee on Transportation 
and Infrastructure received over 2,100 unique requests from 
Members of Congress and industry stakeholders and held five 
hearings focused on reauthorizing civil aviation programs in 
the first four months of the 118th Congress.\4\ FAARA 2024 
altogether contains approximately 500 requirements for the FAA 
and DOT, including mandates to take various actions, procure 
equipment, issue regulations, prepare reports to Congress, and 
conduct studies, among other responsibilities. This Summary of 
Subject Matter highlights some of FAARA 2024's key mandates.
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    \4\ FAA Reauthorization: Securing the Future of General Aviation: 
Hearing Before the H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. 
(Mar. 3, 2023).; FAA Reauthorization: Navigating the Comprehensive 
Passenger Experience: Hearing Before the H. Comm. on Transp. and 
Infrastructure, 118th Cong. (Mar. 20, 2023).; FAA Reauthorization: 
Harnessing the Evolution of Flight to Deliver for the American People: 
Hearing Before the H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. 
(Mar. 27, 2023).; FAA Reauthorization: Examining the Current and Future 
Challenges Facing the Aerospace Workforce: Hearing Before the H. Comm. 
on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. (Apr. 14, 2023).; Turbulence 
Ahead: Consequences of Delaying a Long-Term FAA Bill: Hearing Before 
the H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. (Nov. 27, 
2023).
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UPHOLDING AVIATION SAFETY

    Aviation safety in the United States has greatly improved 
over the last decade. Since 2012, only three fatalities have 
occurred on scheduled domestic passenger air carriers within 
the United States as a result of aircraft accidents compared to 
the decade prior, which saw 140 passenger fatalities.\5\ In 11 
of the last 14 years, there have been no passenger fatalities 
in scheduled United States domestic passenger air carrier 
operations.\6\ Despite these marked improvements, an alarming 
number of safety incidents have occurred in the last few 
years.\7\ For example, two aircraft came within less than 200 
feet of colliding at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport on 
February 4, 2023, when a FedEx aircraft was cleared to land on 
the same runway as a Southwest aircraft was taking off, 
carrying 128 passengers and crew members.\8\ The increase in 
safety incidents and near misses underscores the need for 
continued improvements in aviation safety. FAARA 2024 includes 
nearly 80 provisions aimed at enhancing and improving America's 
gold standard in aviation safety.\9\
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    \5\ NTSB, U.S. Civil Aviation Statistics (2021), available at 
https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx, (last visited Dec. 4, 
2024).
    \6\ Id.
    \7\ Sydney Ember and Emily Steel, Airline Close Calls Happen Far 
More Often Than Previously Known, N.Y. Times, (Aug. 21, 2023), 
available at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/21/business/
airline-safety-close-calls.html.
    \8\ David Koenig, NTSB says and air traffic controllers' faulty 
assumption led to a close call between planes in Texas, Associated 
Press, (June 6, 2024), available at https://apnews.com/article/runway-
close-call-texas-airport-ntsb-2171cddd3c38b762872b5919344d3a02.
    \9\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63.
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ZERO TOLERANCE FOR NEAR MISSES AND INCURSIONS

    Section 347 requires the FAA to establish the Runway Safety 
Council to develop strategies to address airport surface safety 
risks, among other tasks, to improve surface safety. 
Additionally, the FAA is tasked with identifying and deploying 
technologies, equipment, and systems, such as surface 
surveillance and detection systems that improve onboard 
situational awareness for flight crewmembers, to enhance the 
safety of ground operations at all medium hub, large hub, and 
other airports that lack surface surveillance capabilities. 
Most notably, this section requires airport surface 
surveillance systems to be deployed and operational at all 
medium and large hub airports within five years.\10\
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    \10\ Id. at Sec.  347.
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AVIATION SAFETY INFORMATION ANALYSIS AND SHARING PROGRAM

    In order to create a process for open and free-flowing 
sharing of information, the FAA introduced the Aviation Safety 
Information Analysis and Sharing (ASIAS) system.\11\ This 
program is a comprehensive database of safety data and analysis 
from government and industry sources, including data from 
voluntary sources. Section 348 requires the FAA to implement 
improvements to the ASIAS program with respect to safety data 
sharing and risk mitigation. Specifically, the new law requires 
FAA to improve ASIAS by: developing predictive capabilities to 
anticipate emerging safety risks, establishing a robust process 
for prioritizing request for safety information, identifying 
industry segments not yet included in the program to increase 
the rate of participation, establishing processes for obtaining 
and analyzing aggregate data, and integrating safety data 
obtained from unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) operators.\12\
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    \11\ FAA Aviation Safety Information Analysis and Sharing System, 
FAA, available at https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:1.
    \12\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
348.
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NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD

    As the independent Federal agency responsible for 
investigating all civil aviation accidents, in addition to 
accidents in other modes of transportation, the NTSB plays an 
important role in transportation safety. The NTSB was last 
authorized in FAARA 2018.\13\ In addition to reauthorizing the 
Board's statutory authorities, title XII of FAARA 2024 provides 
updates to the safety agency's authorization.
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    \13\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, Pub. Law No. 115-254, 
Division C.
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DETERRING CREWMEMBER INTERFERENCE

    Amid troubling incidents involving unruly passengers in 
recent years, the FAARA 2024 will help ensure flight crews and 
passengers are protected.\14\ Section 432 directs the FAA to 
convene a task force to develop standards and best practices 
relating to suspected interference with cabin or flight crew, 
security screening personnel, or flight attendants. This 
section also requires the FAA to modify the required pre-flight 
briefings to inform passengers that it is against Federal law 
to assault or threaten to assault any individual onboard an 
aircraft or to interfere with duties of a crewmember. The FAA 
continues partnering with the Transportation Security 
Administration (TSA) and is leveraging the existing Inflight 
Security Work Group to jointly develop best practices to comply 
with this section.\15\
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    \14\ See e.g. Mark Walker, F.A.A. Refers More Unruly Passenger 
Cases to Justice Department, N.Y. Times, (Aug. 21, 2024), available at 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/politics/faa-unruly-passengers-
fbi.html.
    \15\ 2024 FAA Reauthorization, Implementation Update, FAA, Power 
Point Presentation to H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure staff 
(Oct. 8, 2024,) (on file with Comm.).
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REVITALIZING GENERAL AVIATION

    General aviation (GA) is commonly referred to as the 
backbone of the aviation system as it underpins the aviation 
industry and is an important part of our national economy. 
According to a 2018 study, GA supported more than 1.2 million 
jobs, generated $247 billion in output, and contributed $128 
billion to the United States Gross Domestic Product (GDP).\16\ 
Given GA's importance to the aviation ecosystem, FAARA 2024 
included the first-ever GA title focused on revitalizing the GA 
community and improving the services FAA provides to general 
aviators.
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    \16\ Dan Namowitz, GA a Force in National, Local Economies, AOPA, 
(Feb. 19, 2020), available at https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-
news/2020/february/19/ga-a-force-in-national-and-local-economies.
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EXPANDING BASICMED

    In 2016, Congress established BasicMed, a medical 
qualification that allows private pilots to be approved by a 
state-licensed physician to exercise flying privileges in lieu 
of receiving a third-class medical certificate.\17\ Section 828 
increases the utility of BasicMed by increasing the number of 
allowable passengers from five to six, increasing the number of 
occupants from six to seven, and increasing the maximum takeoff 
weight from 6,000 pounds to 12,500 pounds, while excluding 
certain transport category rotorcraft.\18\ Additionally, 
section 815 allows Designated Pilot Examiners (DPEs) 
administering proficiency checks or tests to airman to be able 
to do so under BasicMed so long as the aircraft the flight is 
being conducted in is eligible for purposes of a BasicMed 
operation.\19\ The FAA issued a final rule on November 15, 
2024, updating BasicMed regulations to reflect the changes made 
by sections 828 and 815.\20\
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    \17\ FAA Extension, Safety, and Security Act of 2016, Pub. Law No. 
114-190, 130 Stat. 641.
    \18\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
828.
    \19\ Id. at Sec.  815.
    \20\ Regulatory Updates to BasicMed, 89 Fed. Reg. 90572 (Nov. 18, 
2024).
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FLIGHT EXAMINATIONS

    Several GA operators and flight schools assert there is a 
Nationwide shortage of DPEs necessary to meet the needs of 
student pilots and pilots seeking additional certifications and 
ratings.\21\ Section 833 requires the FAA to establish an 
office to provide oversight and facilitate national 
coordination of DPEs.\22\ The FAA has told Committee staff that 
it is in the process of setting up an office to focus on DPE 
oversight as well as working towards fulfilling the reporting 
requirement found in FAARA 2024.
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    \21\ Janice Wood, How much did you pay for your check ride?, 
General Aviation News, (Oct. 19, 2022), available at https://
generalaviationnews.com/2022/10/31/how-much-did-you-pay-for-your-check-
ride/.
    \22\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
833.
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EAGLE INITIATIVE

    In February 2022, the FAA, the Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA), fuel suppliers and distributors, airports, and 
engine and aircraft manufacturers announced the Eliminate 
Aviation Gasoline Lead Emissions (EAGLE) Initiative--a 
collaborative initiative to permit both new and existing GA 
aircraft to operate lead-free, without compromising aviation 
safety and the economic and broader public benefits of GA.\23\ 
Section 827 requires the FAA to continue to partner with 
industry and other Federal Government stakeholders to carry out 
the EAGLE Initiative through the end of 2030.\24\
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    \23\ Press Release, FAA, FAA, Industry Chart Path to Eliminate Lead 
Emissions from General Aviation by the end of 2030, (Feb. 23, 2022) 
available at https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-industry-chart-path-
eliminate-lead-emissions-general-aviation-end-2030.
    \24\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
827.
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IMPROVING THE PASSENGER EXPERIENCE

    The COVID-19 pandemic caused major difficulties for the 
airline industry, with airline revenue passenger miles falling 
by 96 percent from January 2020 to April 2020.\25\ As COVID-19 
restrictions began to lift, air carriers experienced a greater 
than anticipated increase in demand for air travel, leading to 
capacity and staffing constraints, which then posed significant 
operational challenges.\26\ Compounding those events, staffing 
shortages at air traffic control facilities, severe weather, 
and pandemic-driven changes in air traffic further contributed 
to numerous delays and cancellations across the country.\27\
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    \25\ Air Passenger Revenue Miles, Federal Reserve Bank of St. 
Louis, available at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AIRRPMTSID11.
    \26\ Michael B. Baker, Airlines Prepare for Operational Challenges 
as Demand Rebounds, Business Travel News, (Aug. 4, 2021), available at 
https://www.businesstravelnews.com/Transportation/Air/Airlines-Prepare-
for-Operational-Challenges-as-Demand-Rebounds.
    \27\ Taylor Rains, Flight cancellations are spiking in part because 
this air traffic control center in Florida is severely understaffed, 
airline group says, Business Insider, (June 24, 2022), available at 
https://www.businessinsider.com/air-traffic-control-staffing-shortage-
causing-flight-cancellations-alpa-2022-6. [hereinafter Business 
Insider].
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    As the airline industry continues to navigate air travel 
post COVID-19 pandemic, the Committee understands the 
importance of continuing to improve the comprehensive travel 
experience for all passengers to ensure that travelers arrive 
at their destination safely and efficiently. FAARA 2024 
included over 30 provisions to enhance the passenger experience 
and make flying more accessible for individuals with 
disabilities.\28\
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    \28\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub Law. No. 118-63.
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PASSENGER EXPERIENCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE

    For commercial airline passengers, the air transportation 
journey often begins at the curb or parking lot of the 
departure airport and ends at the same point at the destination 
airport. During that timeframe, a passenger's unique experience 
is affected by myriad factors and entities including, but not 
limited to, airlines, airports, airport contractors and 
vendors, and air traffic management system and operations. 
Section 517 creates a Passenger Experience Advisory Committee 
at the DOT tasked with evaluating and providing recommendations 
to improve the comprehensive passenger experience.\29\ The 
Advisory Committee must submit a report to Congress on its 
recommendations.
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    \29\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub Law. No. 118-63, 138 
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AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER STAFFING

    For several years, the FAA and the aviation industry have 
reported a need for a right-sized and qualified FAA workforce 
commensurate with the Agency's responsibilities. Unfortunately, 
the pandemic then exacerbated the challenges felt by the 
Agency's Air Traffic Organization (ATO) in hiring and training 
air traffic controllers at a rate necessary to meet increased 
travel demand.\30\ In the latest Aerospace forecast for the 
2024-2044 period, the FAA notes that ``with robust air travel 
demand growth in 2024 and steady growth thereafter, we expect 
increased activity growth that has the potential to increase 
controller workload.'' \31\ To directly address the controller 
workforce bottleneck in the aviation system, section 437 
directs the FAA to set the minimum hiring target for new air 
traffic controllers, for each of FYs 2024 through 2028, to the 
maximum number of individuals trained at the FAA Air Traffic 
Control Academy.\32\ To date, the FAA has fulfilled one of the 
two mandates incorporated in section 437 and is continuing to 
work to meet the mandates set forth in this section of the 
FAARA 2024.\33\
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    \30\ Turbulence Ahead: Consequences of Delaying a Long-Term FAA 
Bill: Hearing Before the Subcomm. on Aviation of the H. Comm. on 
Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong., (Nov. 30, 2023) (statement of 
Rich Santa, President, National Air Traffic Controllers Association).
    \31\ Supra note 2, at 4.
    \32\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
437.
    \33\ E-mail from Lauren Dudley, Assistant Administrator for 
Government and Industry Affairs, FAA, to Committee on Transp. and 
Infrastructure staff (June 14, 2024, 4:55 PM EST) (on file with Comm.).
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ACCESSIBILITY

    The United States Census Bureau estimates that 42.6 million 
Americans, nearly 13 percent of individuals, have a disability, 
which may include those related to physical mobility, hearing, 
vision, or cognition.\34\ While these Americans face various 
hurdles in their daily lives, air travel often presents 
additional unique challenges. The FAARA 2024 included numerous 
requirements for DOT to improve travel and access for people 
with disabilities. Sections 542 and 543 direct DOT to issue 
rulemaking to develop minimum training standards for airline 
personnel and contractors who assist passengers with 
disabilities using wheelchairs with boarding or deplaning a 
commercial flight, as well as standards regarding the stowage 
of scooters and wheelchairs used by passengers with 
disabilities onboard commercial aircraft. Additionally, the 
sections authorize DOT to assess civil penalties in cases where 
air carriers and foreign air carriers fail to meet the 
requirements. Separately, section 725 establishes a pilot 
program under the Airport Improvement Program (AIP) that can be 
used to fund capital projects to improve airport accessibility 
in ways that exceed standards and regulations under the 
Americans with Disabilities Act and Rehabilitation Act. As 
such, the FAA has been directed to develop program guidance 
letter and work to stand up the pilot program in FY 2025.
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    \34\ GAO, GAO-21-354, Passengers with Disabilities: Airport 
Accessibility Barriers and Practices and DOT's Oversight of Airlines' 
Disability-Related Training (Apr. 2021).
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HARNESSING NEW AND ADVANCED AVIATION

    The FAA has the responsibility to certify, oversee, and 
regulate the safety and operations of the civil aviation 
sector, including integrating new entrants like Unmanned 
Aircraft Systems (UAS) and Advanced Air Mobility (AAM) aircraft 
into the National Airspace System (NAS).\35\ Title IX of FAARA 
2024 incorporates provisions to foster the safe, efficient, and 
timely integration of new entrant technologies into the NAS. 
Like many other innovations of flight, UAS, also known as 
drones, and electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) 
powered-lift aircraft, commonly referred to as AAM vehicles or 
air taxis, have the potential to change the way we travel and 
transport goods. Provisions in FAARA 2024 ensure that the FAA 
is properly positioned to support the safe integration of these 
new entrant technologies into the NAS while supporting American 
innovation.
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    \35\ 49 U.S.C. Sec.  106(f)(3).
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BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT DRONE OPERATIONS

    UAS operating beyond a remote pilot's visual line of sight 
(commonly referred to as BVLOS) presents unique challenges to 
the FAA's existing regulatory framework.\36\ While the FAA has 
made some progress in approving BVLOS operations over the past 
several years, the Agency has faced challenges in promulgating 
regulations to allow greater BVLOS operations. Section 930 
directs the FAA to issue a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) 
to establish a performance-based regulatory pathway for UAS to 
operate BVLOS.\37\ Per the new law, the FAA was required to 
issue a BVLOS NPRM by September 16, 2024, however, the Agency 
has yet to issue the proposed rule; it remains at the Office of 
Management and Budget (OMB) awaiting final approval.
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    \36\ FAA, Unmanned Aircraft Systems Beyond Visual Line of Sight 
Aviation Rulemaking Committee, Final Report at 8, (Mar. 10, 2022), 
available at https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/
committees/documents/media/UAS_BVLOS_ARC_FINAL_
REPORT_03102022.pdf.
    \37\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
930.
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POWERED-LIFT OPERATIONS FOR AAM AIRCRAFT

    Currently, several AAM aircraft manufacturers are in the 
process of certifying the design of their aircraft with the FAA 
and plan to enter into service in the coming years. AAM 
aircraft operators have long expected to use existing operating 
procedures for traditional aircraft, however, the FAA has faced 
challenges in leveraging existing aviation rules for a new 
class of aircraft. To meet entry into service target dates for 
AAM manufacturers and operators, and to establish a clear 
regulatory safety framework for powered-lift aircraft, in early 
2023, the FAA declared that it would publish a final Special 
Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR) for AAM aircraft by ``the 
fourth quarter of 2024''.\38\ As such, section 955 of the FAARA 
2024 required the FAA to publish a final powered-lift SFAR no 
later than November 16, 2024, and many stakeholders and the 
Committee were pleased that the FAA accomplished the task a 
month early when it announced the final SFAR on October 22, 
2024.\39\
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    \38\ Revise Airplane Definition to Incorporate Powered-lift 
Operations, RIN 2120-AL72, Unified Agenda, Office of Information and 
Regulatory Affairs; FAA Reauthorization: Enhancing America's Gold 
Standard in Aviation Safety, Hearing Before the Subcomm. on Aviation of 
the H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. (Feb. 7, 2023) 
(statement of David Boulter, Acting Assoc. Admin. for Aviation Safety, 
FAA).
    \39\ Press Release, FAA, With New Rule, FAA is Ready for Air Travel 
of the Future, (Oct. 22, 2024) available at https://www.faa.gov/
newsroom/new-rule-faa-ready-air-travel-future.
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ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT INFRASTRUCTURE PILOT PROGRAM

    Some AAM operators will leverage existing aviation 
infrastructure, such as airports and heliports, while others 
may require new facilities, such as vertiports, to accommodate 
growing operations.\40\ Section 745 establishes a five-year 
pilot program allowing up to 10 eligible airports to acquire, 
install, and operate charging equipment for electric aircraft 
and to construct or modify related infrastructure to support 
such equipment.
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    \40\ FAA, Advanced Air Mobility Infrastructure, (Oct. 15, 2024), 
available at https://www.faa.gov/airports/new_entrants/
aam_infrastructure.
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GROWING THE AVIATION WORKFORCE

    FAARA 2024 incorporated several provisions to eliminate or 
alleviate staffing, hiring, and educational bottlenecks most 
commonly affecting pilots, aircraft mechanics, air traffic 
controllers, aviation safety inspectors, and other key aviation 
roles. These aviation professions are closely regulated, 
require significant training and experience to achieve FAA 
certification, and are essential to the safe operation of the 
NAS. Provisions included in FAARA 2024 related to improving FAA 
services and appropriately streamlining regulatory processes 
are likely to be highlighted during the hearing as the aviation 
industry's growth is highly dependent on adequate staffing, 
robust investment in FAA resources, and timely decision-making. 
Provisions of interest to aviation stakeholders range from 
directing the FAA to promulgate rulemakings in a timely manner, 
leveraging various Federal training initiatives, and issuing 
airmen and operator certificates, among other responsibilities 
and authorities carried out by the Agency.

BESSIE COLEMAN WOMEN IN AVIATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE

    According to recent projections, there is strong demand for 
aircraft mechanics and service technicians with an estimated 
11,500 job openings available annually from 2021 until 
2031.\41\ To help meet this aviation maintenance need, and 
other workforce needs across the industry, section 403 
establishes the Bessie Coleman Women in Aviation Advisory 
Committee to advise the DOT and FAA on the recruitment, 
retention, education and training, and career advancement of 
women in the aviation industry. The Committee will consist of 
various aviation stakeholders, including aviation maintenance, 
repair and overhaul entities, and must submit reports to 
Congress on its progress, findings, and recommendations.\42\ On 
November 15, 2024, the DOT filed the charter to establish the 
Committee, and on November 21, 2024, DOT published a notice for 
solicitation of nominations for Committee members.\43\
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    \41\ U.S. Gov't Accountability Off., GAO-23-106769, Aviation 
Workforce: Supply of Airline Pilots and Aircraft Mechanics, (2023), 
available at https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106769.
    \42\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
403.
    \43\ FAA, Bessie Coleman Women in Aviation Advisory Committee 
Charter, (Nov. 15, 2024), available at https://www.faa.gov/
regulationspolicies/rulemaking/committees/documents/bessie-coleman-
women-aviation-advisory. See also FAA, FAA Bessie Coleman Women in 
Aviation Initiative, (Nov. 21, 2024), available at https://www.faa.gov/
women-in-aviation.
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AIRMAN MEDICAL CERTIFICATE MODERNIZATION

    Pilots must obtain and maintain an FAA medical certificate 
to operate aircraft, and for commercial pilots, it is a 
requirement for employment.\44\ Section 411 establishes a 
working group to review the FAA's medical processes, policies, 
procedures, and make recommendations to the Administrator to 
ensure the timely and efficient certification of airmen. Among 
its tasks, this working group will assess the FAA's special 
issuance process, determine the appropriateness of the list of 
medical conditions under which an Air Medical Examiner (AME) 
can issue a medical certificate, and review mental health 
protocols and approved medications, including any actions taken 
resulting from recommendations by the Mental Health and 
Aviation Medical Clearances Aviation Rulemaking Committee.\45\ 
This section establishes an aviation workforce mental health 
task group responsible for overseeing, monitoring, and 
evaluating the FAA's efforts to support the mental health of 
the aviation workforce. The FAA has established the aeromedical 
innovation and modernization working group, held its first 
meeting, and is on track to stand up the Mental Health Task 
Force consistent with the requirement in this section. It is 
expected that the FAA will respond to the working group's 
findings by taking necessary action to streamline the medical 
certification process and breakdown barriers for applicants.
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    \44\ FAA, Mental Health & Aviation Medical Clearances ARC 
Recommendation Report (Apr. 1, 2024), available at https://www.faa.gov/
sites/faa.gov/files/Mental_Health_ARC_Final_
Report_RELEASED.pdf.
    \45\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
411.
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IMPROVING SAFETY-CRITICAL STAFFING AT FAA

    The FAA's Flight Standards Service (FSS) and Aircraft 
Certification Service (AIR) aviation safety inspectors are 
responsible for the certification, education, oversight, and 
enforcement of the NAS.\46\ Given increased compliance 
requirements on manufacturers and operators, ongoing supply 
chain quality issues, enhanced scrutiny of safety culture 
across the aviation ecosystem, and the emergence of more 
advanced aerospace technologies in United States airspace, it 
is critical that this safety workforce be fully staffed to meet 
both present day and future industry demand. Sections 429, 430, 
and 431 collectively require a wholistic review of FAA's safety 
critical workforce, including staffing for safety inspectors, 
to ensure the agency can efficiently and effectively fulfil its 
aviation safety mission.\47\ Furthermore, section 428 directs 
the FAA to utilize its existing direct hire authorities to hire 
more individuals for positions related to aircraft 
certification and aviation safety, including in positions that 
support the safe integration of new airspace entrants.\48\
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    \46\ Strengthening the Aviation Workforce: Hearing Before the S. 
Comm. on Commerce, Space and Transportation, 118th Cong. (Mar. 16, 
2023) (statement of David Spero, National President, Professional 
Aviation Safety Specialists).
    \47\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, 
Sec. Sec.  429, 430, 431.
    \48\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
428.
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FEDERAL AVIATION WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS

    FAARA 2018 established the Aviation Workforce Development 
(AWD) Grants program to fund outreach and educational efforts 
focused on growing the United States aircraft pilot and 
aviation maintenance workforce. This program enjoys broad 
support from many aviation stakeholders, as it encourages 
collaboration between government, industry, and local entities 
to address skills gaps while encouraging more Americans to 
pursue good-paying careers in aviation.\49\ Section 440 of 
FAARA 2024 not only builds on the successes of the AWD Grants 
program for the pilot and maintenance talent pools, but it also 
establishes a new eligibility for aviation manufacturing to 
ensure the manufacturing sector has a robust talent pool to 
recruit from in the coming decades. FAARA 2024 authorizes 
funding levels for the aviation maintenance, aircraft pilot, 
and aviation manufacturing development programs at $20 million 
respectively for each of FY 2025 through 2028. This section 
also invests $12 million annually in the new Willa Brown 
Aviation Education Program to expand outreach and aviation 
education opportunities in low-income and underrepresented 
communities.\50\ The FAA has informed Committee staff that the 
adjustments to the AWD grant programs will be reflected in the 
next round of grants; a process which will start after Congress 
enacts its FY 2025 appropriations bill.
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    \49\ Pub. L. No. 115-254 Sec.  625, 132 Stat. 3405.
    \50\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law No. 118-63, Sec.  
440.
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                             IV. WITNESSES

     LJason Terreri, Executive Director, Syracuse 
Regional Airport Authority, on behalf of the Airports Council 
International-North America (ACI-NA)
     LAdam Woodworth, Chief Executive Officer, Wing
     LPete Bunce, President and Chief Executive 
Officer, General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA)
     Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
Department, AFL-CIO (TTD)


                      Key Provisions in FAARA 2024
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        Mandate           Statutory Deadline             Status
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Sec.  202. Assistant                            PENDING--FAA has
 Administrator for                               informed the Committee
 Rulemaking and                                  of a need to reprogram
 Regulatory                                      funding to facilitate
 Improvement.                                    the creation of a
                                                 standalone office.
To FAA: The             Effective upon
 Administrator shall     enactment
 appoint an Assistant
 Administrator for
 Rulemaking and
 Regulatory
 Improvement. (202(a))
 
To FAA: Assistant       November 17, 2026
 Administrator for
 Rulemaking and
 Regulatory
 Improvement shall
 brief the appropriate
 committees of
 Congress within 30
 months of enactment.
 (202(b))
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Sec.  205. Regulatory                           COMPLETED--FAA
 Materials Improvement                           established the review
                                                 team and is working
                                                 towards developing and
                                                 publishing an action
                                                 plan.
To FAA: Establish a     September 14, 2024
 process review team
 to provide the
 Administrator with
 recommendations to
 improve the
 promulgation of
 regulatory materials
 by the Agency.
 (205(a))
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Sec.  208. Application                          PENDING--FAA has time to
 Dashboard and                                   work towards fulfilling
 Feedback Portal.                                this mandate.
 
To FAA: The Deputy      November 17, 2026
 Administrator shall
 provide the
 Administrator a
 recommendation
 regarding the need
 for or benefits of a
 dashboard by which an
 applicant can track
 their application
 status. (208(b))
 
To FAA: The             December 2026/January
 Administrator shall     2027
 brief the appropriate
 committees of
 Congress after
 receiving a
 recommendation from
 the Deputy
 Administrator.
 (208(c))
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Sec.  336. Consistent   November 12, 2024       COMPLETED--FAA created
 and timely pilot                                the part 135 check
 checks for air                                  pilot workgroup and
 carriers.                                       added the group to the
                                                 ACT ARC.
 
To FAA: Establish a
 working group for
 purposes of reviewing
 and evaluating all
 regulations and
 policies related to
 check airmen and
 authorized check
 airmen for air
 carrier operations
 conducted under part
 135 of title 14, Code
 of Federal
 Regulations. (336(a))
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Sec.  347. Zero                                 IN PROGRESS--The Runway
 Tolerance for Near                              Safety Council has been
 Misses, Runway                                  established and is
 Incursions, and                                 working to fulfill
 Surface Safety Risks.                           subsection (c), the
                                                 identification of
                                                 surface safety
                                                 technologies.
 
To FAA: The             November 15, 2024
 Administrator shall
 establish a Runway
 Safety Council to
 develop a systematic
 management strategy
 to address airport
 surface safety risks.
 (347(b))
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Sec.  353. Ramp worker                          IN PROGRESS--FAA has
 safety call to                                  initiated the work on
 action.                                         the Call to Action and
                                                 finalized its scoping.
To FAA: Administrator   November 12, 2024
 shall initiate a Call
 to Action safety
 review of airport
 ramp worker safety
 and ways to minimize
 or eliminate
 ingestion zone and
 jet blast zone
 accidents. (353(a))
 
To FAA: Administrator   180 days after the
 shall submit a report   conclusion of the
 to Congress on the      Call to Action safety
 review and any          review.
 related
 recommendations.
 (353(c))
 
To FAA: Administrator   6 months after the
 shall develop and       completion of the
 publish training and    Call to Action safety
 related education       review.
 materials about
 aircraft engine
 ingestion/jet blast
 hazards for ground
 crews. (353(d) and
 (f))
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Sec.  355. Tower                                COMPLETED--The FAA
 Marking Notice of                               issued the tower
 Proposed Rulemaking                             marking NPRM in
                                                 November.
 
To FAA: The             May 17, 2025
 Administrator shall
 issue a notice of
 proposed rulemaking
 to implement section
 2110 of the FAA
 Extension, Safety,
 and Security Act of
 2016 (49 U.S.C. 44718
 note).
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Sec.  372. Enhanced                             DELAYED
 Qualification Program
 for Restricted
 Airline Transport
 Pilot Certificate.
 
To FAA: Within six      November 16, 2024
 months, the
 Administrator shall
 establish the
 requirements for a
 program to be known
 as the Enhanced
 Qualification
 Program.
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Sec.  403. Bessie                               IN PROGRESS--The FAA
 Coleman Women in                                filed the Committee
 Aviation Advisory                               charter and published
 Committee.                                      in the Federal Register
                                                 the Notice of
                                                 Solicitation for
                                                 Nominations for
                                                 Appointment to the BCWA
                                                 Advisory Committee. The
                                                 FAA is on track to make
                                                 appointments by
                                                 February 2025.
To DOT: Secretary       November 16, 2024
 shall establish the
 Bessie Coleman Women
 in Aviation Advisory
 Committee. (403(a))
 
To DOT: Secretary        February 16, 2025
 shall make
 appointments to the
 Committee. (403(e))
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Sec.  411. Aeromedical                          IN PROGRESS--The FAA
 Innovation and                                  established the working
 Modernization Working                           group which held its
 Group.                                          first meeting on
                                                 November 13, 2024. The
                                                 FAA is also on track to
                                                 stand up the Mental
                                                 Health Task Force.
To FAA: The             November 12, 2024
 Administrator shall
 establish a working
 group to review the
 medical processes and
 policies and make
 recommendations to
 the Administrator on
 modernizing such
 processes and
 policies. (411(a))
 
To FAA: Administrator   120 days after the
 shall also establish    establishment of the
 a task group to         Aeromedical
 oversee, monitor, and   Innovation &
 evaluate the FAA's      Modernization working
 efforts to support      group.
 the mental health of
 the aviation
 workforce. (411(d))
To FAA: The working     May 16, 2025, and
 group shall submit a    annually thereafter.
 report to Congress on
 its findings and
 recommendations.
 (411(f))
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Sec.  425. Joint                                IN PROGRESS--DOT has
 Aviation Employment                             reached out to the DOD
 Training Working                                to coordinate this
 Group.                                          effort.
 
To DOT: Secretary       September 13, 2024
 shall, in
 coordination with the
 Secretary of Defense,
 establish an
 interagency working
 group, to advise on
 increasing awareness
 of the eligibility,
 training, and
 experience
 requirements needed
 to become an FAA-
 certified or a
 military-covered
 aviation professional
 in order to improve
 career transitions
 between the military
 and civilian
 workforces.
 
To DOT: Secretary       May 16, 2025
 shall submit to
 Congress an initial
 report on the
 activities of the
 working group; and
 submit subsequent
 reports to Congress
 annually thereafter.
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Sec.  428. Direct-Hire                          DELAYED--FAA has not
 Authority                                       briefed the Committee
 Utilization.                                    yet.
 
To FAA: The             No deadline
 Administrator shall
 utilize direct hire
 authorities to hire
 individuals on a non-
 competitive basis for
 positions related to
 aircraft
 certification and
 aviation safety.
 (428(a))
 
To FAA: The             November 12, 2024
 Administrator shall
 brief the appropriate
 committees of
 Congress on the
 utilization of the
 direct-hire
 authorities. (428(b))
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Sec.  430. Staffing                             PENDING--FAA has time to
 Model for Aviation                              work towards fulfilling
 Safety Inspectors.                              this mandate.
 
To FAA: Administrator   May 16, 2026
 shall review and, as
 necessary, revise the
 staffing model for
 aviation safety
 inspectors. (430(a))
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Sec.  431. Safety-                              PENDING--FAA has 2 years
 Critical Staffing.                              from date of enactment
                                                 to complete section
                                                 430, so there is ample
                                                 time for the agency to
                                                 complete section 431.
To FAA: Administrator   Due upon completion of
 shall take              the staffing model
 appropriate actions     review in Sec.  430
 in response to the
 number of aviation
 safety inspectors,
 aviation safety
 technicians, and
 operation support
 positions that are
 identified in the
 staffing model to
 meet the
 responsibilities of
 the Flight Standards
 Service and Aircraft
 Certification Service
 each fiscal year so
 long as such staffing
 increases are
 measured relative to
 the number of
 individuals serving
 in safety-critical
 positions as of
 September 30, 2023.
 (431(a))
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Sec.  437. Air Traffic                          IN PROGRESS--FAA entered
 Control Workforce                               into an agreement with
 Staffing.                                       the National Academies
                                                 TRB in June. The FAA
                                                 anticipates the TRB
                                                 will submit its report
                                                 in the spring or summer
                                                 of 2025.
To FAA: Administrator   Effective upon
 shall set, as the       enactment
 minimum hiring target
 for new air traffic
 controllers, the
 maximum number of
 individuals able to
 be trained at the FAA
 Academy. (437(a))
 
To FAA: Administrator   June 15, 2024
 shall submit an
 attestation to the
 appropriate
 committees of
 Congress
 demonstrating an
 agreement entered
 into with the
 National Academies
 Transportation
 Research Board (TRB).
 (437(b))
 
To FAA: Administrator   May 16, 2025. FAA to
 shall take such         then brief Congress
 action that may be      on revised staffing
 necessary to            model 90 days after
 implement and use the   implementation.
 staffing model
 identified by the
 TRB, including any
 recommendations for
 improving such model.
 The Administrator
 must brief Congress
 on the revised
 staffing model.
 (437(c))
 
To FAA: Administrator   As the TRB conducts
 is directed, in the     the study and prior
 interim, to adopt and   to the required
 utilize the staffing    implementation of
 models and              revised air traffic
 methodologies           controller staffing
 developed by the CRWG   standards.
 that were recommended
 in a report submitted
 to the FAA and
 referenced in the
 2023 Controller
 Workforce Plan.
 (437(e))
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Sec.  439. FAA Academy                          IN PROGRESS--FAA began
 and Facility                                    developing the plan in
 Expansion Plan.                                 August.
 
To FAA: Administrator   August 14, 2024
 shall initiate the
 development of a plan
 to expand the overall
 capacity of its
 facilities,
 instruction,
 equipment, and
 training resources to
 grow the number of
 developmental air
 traffic controllers
 enrolled per fiscal
 year and support
 increases in FAA air
 controller staffing
 to advance the safety
 of the national
 airspace system.
 (439(a))
 
To FAA: Administrator   May 16, 2025
 shall submit to
 Congress the plan.
 (439(b))
 
To FAA: Administrator   180 days after the
 shall brief Congress    submission of the
 on the implementation   plan to Congress.
 of the plan. (439(c))
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Sec.  440. Improving                            PENDING--Provision is
 Federal Aviation                                effective upon
 Workforce Development                           enactment, subject to
 Programs.                                       appropriations and DOT/
                                                 FAA establishing the
                                                 new manufacturing
                                                 program.
To DOT: Establish a     No deadline
 program to provide
 grants for eligible
 projects to support
 the education and
 recruitment of
 aviation
 manufacturing
 technical workers and
 aerospace engineers
 and the development
 of the aviation
 manufacturing
 workforce.
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Sec.  511. Bureau of                            DELAYED
 Transportation
 Statistics.
 
To DOT: Initiate a      July 15, 2024
 rulemaking to revise
 section 234.4 of
 title 14, Code of
 Federal Regulations,
 to create a new
 ``cause of delay''
 category that
 identifies and tracks
 information on delays
 and cancellations of
 air carriers that are
 due to instructions
 from the FAA Air
 Traffic Control
 System. (511(a))
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Sec.  517. Passenger                            PENDING--DOT has not
 Experience Advisory                             established the
 Committee.                                      advisory committee.
 
To DOT: Secretary       No deadline
 shall establish an
 advisory committee to
 advise the Secretary
 and the Administrator
 in carrying out
 activities related to
 the improvement of
 the passenger
 experience in air
 transportation
 customer service.
 (517(a))
 
To DOT: Secretary       May 16, 2025
 shall submit a report
 to Congress on
 consensus
 recommendations made
 by the advisory
 committee. (517(g))
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Sec.  519. Seat                                 COMPLETED--FAA briefed
 Dimensions.                                     the Committee in July.
                                                 According to the FAA,
                                                 the agency determined
                                                 that additional
                                                 regulations on seat
                                                 dimensions are not
                                                 necessary for the
                                                 safety of passengers.
                                                 However, FAA plans to
                                                 study improvements to
                                                 the safety and
                                                 efficiency of
                                                 evacuation standards,
                                                 as well as conduct an
                                                 ARC, pursuant to
                                                 section 365 of the law.
To FAA: Administrator   July 15, 2024
 shall either initiate
 a rulemaking on
 minimum dimensions
 for passenger seat
 sizes or make a
 determination that a
 rulemaking is not
 necessary. In the
 event of the latter,
 the FAA shall brief
 the appropriate
 committees of
 Congress on the
 justification of such
 decision.
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Sec.  546.                                      DELAYED--DOT has not
 Accommodations for                              issued the ANPRM.
 Qualified Individuals
 with Disabilities.
 
To DOT: The Secretary   November 12, 2024
 shall issue an
 advanced notice of
 proposed rulemaking
 regarding seating
 accommodations for
 any qualified
 individual with a
 disability. (546(a))
 
To DOT: The Secretary   May 16, 2028
 shall issue a final
 rule pursuant to the
 rulemaking in this
 section. (546(a))
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Sec.  619. NextGen                              IN PROGRESS--FAA
 Programs.                                       officials have started
                                                 program evaluation and
                                                 planning for the
                                                 deadlines contained in
                                                 this section.
To FAA: The             November 12, 2024
 Administrator shall
 convene FAA officials
 to evaluate and
 expedite
 implementation of
 NextGen programs and
 capabilities.
 (619(a))
 
To FAA: The             November 12, 2024
 Administrator shall
 develop an action
 plan to utilize
 performance-based
 navigation (PBN)
 procedures as a
 primary means of
 navigation to reduce
 dependency on legacy
 systems within the
 NAS. (619(b))
 
To FAA: The             July 16, 2025
 Administrator shall
 develop a 2-year
 implementation plan
 to further
 incentivize the
 acceleration of the
 equipage rates of
 certain NextGen
 avionics within the
 fleets of air
 carriers. (619(g))
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Sec.  622. Audit of                             IN PROGRESS--FAA
 Legacy Systems.                                 initiated an audit of
                                                 legacy systems in
                                                 September and is
                                                 working towards
                                                 completing the audit
                                                 and reporting to
                                                 Congress.
To FAA: The             August 16, 2024
 Administrator shall
 initiate and complete
 an audit of all
 legacy systems of the
 NAS to determine the
 level of operational
 risk, functionality,
 security, and
 compatibility with
 current and future
 technology. (622(a))
 
To FAA: The             February 12, 2026
 Administrator shall
 provide a report to
 the appropriate
 committees of
 Congress on the
 findings and
 recommendations of
 the audit. (622(d))
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Sec.  745. Electric                             IN PROGRESS--The FAA
 Aircraft                                        intends to stand up the
 Infrastructure Pilot                            pilot program in
 Program.                                        FY2025.
 
To DOT: Secretary may   No deadline, however,
 establish a five-year   the pilot program
 pilot program           would expire in
 allowing up to 10       October 2028.
 eligible airports to
 acquire, install, and
 operate charging
 equipment for
 electric aircraft and
 to construct or
 modify related
 infrastructure to
 support such
 equipment. (745(a))
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Sec.  767. PFAS-                                IN PROGRESS/DELAYED--FAA
 Related Resources for                           is finalizing a
 Airports.                                       programmatic framework
                                                 to establish the
                                                 program.
 
To DOT: Secretary       August 14, 2024
 shall, in
 consultation with the
 Environmental
 Protection Agency
 (EPA), establish a
 reimbursement
 program, to replace
 aqueous film forming
 foam (AFFF) and
 related firefighting
 equipment with non-
 fluorinated
 firefighting agents.
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Sec.  783. Expedited                            IN PROGRESS
 Environmental Review
 and One Federal
 Decision.
 
To DOT: Any airport     Effective upon
 capacity enhancement    enactment
 project, terminal
 development project,
 or general aviation
 airport construction
 or improvement
 project shall be
 subject to the
 coordinated and
 expedited
 environmental review
 process requirements
 of this section.
 (783)
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Sec.  786. Part 150                             IN PROGRESS/ANTICIPATED
 Noise Standards                                 DELAY--The FAA briefed
 Updates.                                        the Committee in August
                                                 stating that the agency
                                                 anticipates the
                                                 regulatory update will
                                                 be delayed until after
                                                 the Aircraft Noise
                                                 Advisory Committee
                                                 (sec. 792) is
                                                 established and has an
                                                 opportunity to review
                                                 the update.
To FAA: Administrator   May 16, 2025
 shall review and
 revise, as
 appropriate, federal
 airport noise
 regulations under
 Part 150 of title 14,
 Code of Federal
 Regulations.
 
To FAA: Administrator   August 14, 2024
 shall brief Congress
 regarding the review.
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Sec.  788. Categorical                          IN PROGRESS
 Exclusions.
 
To FAA: Increases the   No deadline
 number of FAA
 activities that are
 presumed to be
 covered by
 categorical
 exclusions for
 purposes of
 compliance with the
 National
 Environmental Policy
 Act (NEPA). (788)
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Sec.  815. BasicMed                             COMPLETED--FAA
 for Examiners                                   promulgated revised
 Administrating Tests                            rules to enact changes
 or Proficiency                                  to BasicMed in November
 Checks.                                         2024.
 
To FAA: Administrator   May 16, 2027
 shall issue a final
 rule to update part
 61 of title 14, Code
 of Federal
 Regulations to allow
 an examiner to
 administer a
 practical test or
 proficiency check if
 the examiner meets
 the medical
 qualifications
 requirements under
 part 68 of title 14,
 Code of Federal
 Regulations. (815(b))
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Sec.  827. EAGLE                                IN PROGRESS--The FAA
 Initiative.                                     began partnering with
                                                 industry through the
                                                 EAGLE initiative in
                                                 2022.
To FAA: Administrator   No deadline
 shall continue to
 partner with industry
 and other Federal
 Government
 stakeholders in
 carrying out the
 EAGLE initiative
 through the end of
 2030. (827(a))
 
To FAA: The             May 16, 2025
 Administrator shall
 submit to the
 appropriate
 committees of
 Congress a report
 that contains an
 updated strategic
 plan, describes the
 structure and
 involvement of all
 FAA offices, and
 identifies policy
 initiatives needed to
 improve and enhance
 timely and safe
 transition to
 unleaded aviation
 gasoline for the
 piston-engine
 aircraft fleet.
 (827(a))
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Sec.  828. Expansion                            COMPLETED--FAA
 of BasicMed.                                    promulgated revised
                                                 rules to enact changes
                                                 to BasicMed in November
                                                 2024.
To FAA: Update          November 12, 2024
 regulations to
 reflect the changes
 to BasicMed made by
 the section. (828(b))
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Sec.  833. National                             IN PROGRESS
 Coordination and
 Oversight of
 Designated Pilot
 Examiners.
 
To FAA: Establish an    No deadline
 office to provide
 oversight and
 facilitate national
 coordination of
 designated pilot
 examiners (DPE's).
 (833(a))
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Sec.  930. Beyond                               IN PROGRESS--DELAYED
 Visual of Line of                               Proposed rule is
 Sight Operations for                            awaiting OMB final
 Unmanned Aircraft                               approval. FAA
 Systems.                                        anticipates release of
                                                 the proposed rule no
                                                 later than January 2025
                                                 as reflected in the
                                                 Spring 2024 Unified
                                                 Agenda.
To FAA: The             September 16, 2024
 Administrator shall
 issue a notice of
 proposed rulemaking
 establishing a
 performance-based
 regulatory pathway
 for UAS to operate
 beyond-visual- line-
 of-sight. (930(a))
 
To FAA: The             Not later than 16
 Administrator shall     months after
 issue a final rule      publishing the NPRM
 based on the proposed
 rule under this
 section. (930(a))
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Sec.  933. Special                              IN PROGRESS--A public
 Authority for                                   meeting was held in
 Transport of                                    August to obtain input
 Hazardous Materials                             on changes necessary to
 by Commercial Package                           implement this section.
 Delivery Unmanned
 Aircraft Systems.
 
To DOT: The Secretary   November 12, 2024
 shall hold a public
 meeting to obtain
 input on changes
 necessary to
 implement this
 section. (933(e))
 
To DOT: Secretary       November 12, 2024
 shall use a risk-
 based approach to
 establish the
 operational
 requirements,
 standards, or special
 permits necessary to
 approve or authorize
 an air carrier to
 transport hazardous
 materials by UAS.
 (933(a))
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Sec.  955. Rules for                            COMPLETED--FAA published
 Operation of Powered-                           the final rule in
 Lift Aircraft.                                  October 2024.
 
To FAA: The             December 16, 2024
 Administrator shall
 publish a final rule
 for the Special
 Federal Aviation
 Regulation of the FAA
 titled ``Integration
 of Powered-Lift:
 Pilot Certification
 and Operations;
 Miscellaneous
 Amendments Related to
 Rotorcraft and
 Airplanes''
 establishing
 procedures for
 certifying pilots of
 powered-lift aircraft
 and providing
 operational rules for
 powered-lift aircraft
 capable of
 transporting
 passengers and cargo.
 (955(a))
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     FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024: STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVES ON 
                             IMPLEMENTATION

                              ----------                              


                      WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2024

                  House of Representatives,
                          Subcommittee on Aviation,
            Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:02 a.m., in 
room 2167 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Garret Graves 
(Chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. The subcommittee will come to 
order. I ask unanimous consent the chair be authorized to 
declare a recess at any time during today's hearing. Without 
objection, it is so ordered.
    Mr. Cohen. I also ask unanimous consent that Members not on 
the subcommittee be permitted to sit with the subcommittee at 
today's hearing and ask questions. Without objection, so 
ordered.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Without objection, without 
objection, so ordered. As a reminder, if Members wish to insert 
documents into the record, please also email them to 
[email protected].
    I now recognize myself for the purposes of an opening 
statement for 5 minutes.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. GARRET GRAVES OF LOUISIANA, CHAIRMAN, 
                    SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. I want to thank the witnesses for 
being here today, and I want to thank all the Members for the 
extraordinary work that was done in this Congress on the FAA 
reauthorization bill. Like everyone here can talk about things 
that were frustrating and problems this Congress. I certainly 
have my robust list of items, but when I think back to some of 
the top five accomplishments, this bill is in the top five. 
This was something that in my opinion, really demonstrates how 
this place is supposed to work and especially how this 
committee is supposed to work, and I want to give a big shout 
out to Chairman Sam Graves--the last time I get to do this: my 
father--and to Ranking Member Larsen and my good friend Steve 
Cohen, because this was a complicated process.
    As Hunter and the entire team will tell you, well over 
2,000 submissions from stakeholders from Members of Congress 
making requests for identifying problems in the aviation space. 
Over 2,000. This bill addressed the far majority of those. This 
legislation, despite the dysfunctional, polarized, divisive 
Congress that we have, this bill passed the House of 
Representatives--let me start. It passed out of this committee 
unanimously. It passed out of the House of Representatives by a 
vote of 351 to 69, and ultimately the conference report, and 
passed out of the House of Representatives by a vote of 387 to 
only 26 confused or otherwise misunderstood folks. And so, I 
mean, that is huge in this polarized environment. I will say it 
again, 387 to 26, which really was amazing.
    Look, when we started this, when we started this even 
before we knew who was going to be in the majority, it was an 
agreement among all that we were going to do this on a 
bipartisan basis, and we were going to do this in an agreement 
that made sure that we addressed the key issues in aviation, 
and we are really excited about the progress that has been 
made.
    I want to remind you, people said the margins are too 
narrow, you are not going to get a bill, you will never make it 
bipartisan. How many extensions, or how many years of 
extensions will we be looking at before we actually do a bill? 
And the other thing is, with the amazing pace of innovation 
based upon a lot of the folks that you are representing here 
today, the amazing pace of innovation, there was so much stuff 
that needed to be done, and folks said that you will never be 
able to address all the needs in this bill, so, we got it 
right. At least 90-plus percent right. We are really excited.
    But having it in the law is only the first step in the 
process. The next thing is actually having the FAA abide by the 
law, having the FAA stick with the deadlines and timelines and 
the priorities that we have identified in this legislation, 
because all of us here can tell stories about the FAA, about 
the Corps of Engineers, about FEMA, and many other agencies 
that completely ignore the laws or write it in ways that are 
not consistent with congressional intent. So, that is 
absolutely critical, and that is why we are having this hearing 
today.
    This is my final hearing as Aviation Subcommittee chair, 
and I want to emphasize some points about the implementation to 
be able to help Members who carry forward in the 119th Congress 
and beyond.
    First of all, it is critical for implementation of the law 
and for American leadership in aviation, the FAA better step up 
and lead on the integration of new aviation technologies. Our 
aviation leadership in the past is no guarantee of leadership 
in the future, and too often, FAA spends too much time looking 
for every reason to say no when it has every reason to actually 
say yes.
    Other countries sense weakness right now, and they are 
circling like vultures to permanently shut this country out 
from the next golden era of aviation. Our bill provides a 
roadmap to respond to this challenge, but unless the FAA starts 
the car, a roadmap is just that: a roadmap.
    Second, we have to center on average Americans, the 
passenger, and their experience in everything this subcommittee 
does. I talk about this at every hearing, and I am going to 
keep doing it, because I think, oftentimes, we silo or look at 
only different components of the passenger experience. It may 
be the parking lot; it may be checking in bags; it may be the 
TSA experience; it may be going through concessions; it may be 
the experience at the gate; it may be what they are getting on 
the app in terms of air traffic control information; it may be 
their experience on the plane.
    My good friend, Mr. Cohen, likes to talk about seats all 
the time. It may be on the back end in baggage claim. No one is 
looking at that comprehensive experience, and we have got to do 
a better job, because that is our job in Congress is looking at 
that common experience, the common process, and that passenger 
experience to make sure that it is actually sewn together in a 
way that makes sense. I think that is absolutely critical. 
Things like air traffic control, having the best data, the best 
technology. Procurement and acquisition has been a massive 
problem.
    And finally, this subcommittee and stakeholders also need 
to hold the FAA accountable for actually implementing the law, 
or the accomplishment this year will simply evaporate. I have 
made no secret of my frustrations with the FAA missing 
deadlines and having failed to complete mandates from 2018, or 
even the 2016 FAA laws, and that can't happen again. If history 
is any guide, the FAA will resist any uncomfortable change, no 
matter how necessary, without robust oversight from the 
subcommittee and call outs from the industry.
    We finished all of our victory laps of getting the bill 
passed. Now it is time to make sure that the FAA is 
implementing the bill in accordance with the letter of the law 
and congressional intent.
    So, I want to say again, huge thanks. Sorry for going over 
time. Huge thanks to Chairman Sam Graves. Sam, thank you for 
trusting me with this absolutely important or critical 
subcommittee. Thank you for the mentorship. There is not a 
chairman of the Transportation Committee in the history of this 
Congress, probably in the future of this Congress, that is 
going to have the aviation experience or knowledge as Chairman 
Sam Graves.
    I want to give a huge shout-out to some of the wise and 
passionate staff directors: Holly Woodruff Lyons, and, of 
course, Hunter. The team, Laney Copeland, Julie Devine, Chris 
Senn, Andrew Giacini, Will Moore, Corey Sites, and Jamie 
Hopkins. T&I Comms Director Justin Harclerode. Justin, thanks. 
I know that I rarely read things, and it makes it a pain in the 
rear to do the statements, so, thanks to you for your efforts 
there to try and put words to my diatribes.
    And lastly, to our witnesses for being here today. Tell us 
where the FAA is doing well, where they have already managed to 
fall behind and helping to identify priorities and triage in 
moving forward. Ensuring that the FAA is able to carry through 
on the promise the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 will be a 
full-time job, but I have no doubt the subcommittee will rise 
to the challenge and continue to do great things.
    [Mr. Graves of Louisiana's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
   Prepared Statement of Hon. Garret Graves of Louisiana, Chairman, 
                        Subcommittee on Aviation
    I want to start off by thanking all the witnesses here today and 
our members for the extraordinary work that was done by this 
subcommittee this Congress, and specifically on the FAA Reauthorization 
Act. It is one of the greatest achievements of the 118th Congress and 
demonstrates how this place is supposed to work. Big shout out to 
Chairman Sam Graves, Ranking Member Rick Larsen, and my good friend, 
Subcommittee Ranking Member Steve Cohen.
    Our original legislation passed the House of Representatives by a 
vote of 351 to 69, and the final product we worked on with the Senate 
passed 387 to 26. When we started this, there was an agreement among 
all four corners that we would pursue this effort in a bipartisan way. 
Our detractors told us, things like: ``The margins are too narrow, you 
can never make it bipartisan,'' ``How many years of extensions should 
we expect?'', or ``There's too much to do, you'll never be able to 
address all the needs.'' But we got to work anyway, and we were 
successful.
    But, having it written in law is only the first step. The next 
thing is actually having the FAA abide by the law, and have the FAA 
stick with the timelines and deadlines we have identified in this 
legislation because all of us here can tell stories about the FAA, the 
Corps of Engineers, FEMA, and many other agencies that completely 
ignore the laws or implement them in ways that are not in line with the 
way Congress intended. That's why it is critical and why we are having 
this hearing today.
    This is my final hearing as Subcommittee Chair, and I want to 
emphasize some points on implementation of the bill that I hope members 
will carry forward into the 119th Congress and beyond.
    First off, it's critical for American leadership and aviation and 
FAA to better step up and lead on the integration of new aviation 
technology. Our aviation leadership in the past is no guarantee of our 
leadership in the future. And too often the FAA spends too much time 
looking for every reason to say ``no'' when it actually has every 
reason to say ``yes.'' Other countries sense a weakness right now; they 
are circling like vultures to permanently shut this country out of a 
golden era of aviation. Our bill provides a road map to respond to this 
challenge, but unless the FAA starts the car, a road map is only that: 
a road map.
    Second, we have to put average Americans, the passengers, and their 
experience interacting with the aviation system at the heart of 
everything this subcommittee does. I talk about this at every hearing, 
and I will continue to do so because often I think we silo or look at 
only different components of the passenger experience instead of the 
comprehensive process. That means shining a light on the failures in 
acquisition, procurement, implementation, and operations of air traffic 
control technologies which cause so many delays and inefficiencies in 
the National Airspace System.
    Finally, the entire Committee and our stakeholders need to hold the 
FAA accountable for actually implementing the law, or the 
accomplishments we have made will simply evaporate. I have made no 
secret about my frustration with the FAA for missing deadlines and 
failing to complete mandates for the 2018 or 2016 laws. If history is 
any guide, the FAA will try to resist any uncomfortable change, no 
matter how necessary, without robust oversight from this subcommittee 
and callouts from industry. We finished our victory laps in getting the 
bill passed; now it's time to make sure the FAA is implementing the 
bill in a way that is in accordance with the letter of the law and 
congressional intent.
    I want to say again huge thanks to Chairman Sam Graves for trusting 
me with this extremely important and critical subcommittee. Thank you 
for your mentorship. There is not a chairman in the history of this 
Congress or most likely the future of this Congress that has the 
aviation experience or knowledge of Sam Graves. I want to give a huge 
shout out to my wise and passionate staff directors, Holly Woodruff 
Lyons and Hunter Presti, and to our team: Maggie Ayrea, Laney Copeland 
Allen, Will Moore, Chris Senn, Andrew Giacini, Julie Devine, Corey 
Sites, Jamie Hopkins, and the Committee's Communications Director, 
Justin Harclerode.
    Lastly, thank you to our witnesses for being here to tell us where 
the FAA is doing well and where they are already falling behind to help 
identify priorities moving forward to ensure the FAA can carry through 
on the promise of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024. That will be a 
full time job for this subcommittee that I have no doubt will rise to 
the occasion and continue to do the right thing.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. I now recognize my great friend, 
Steve Cohen, for 5 minutes.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. STEVE COHEN OF TENNESSEE, RANKING 
                MEMBER, SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION

    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And it has been an honor 
to serve alongside you here on this subcommittee the past 2 
years. It has been the most important subcommittee I have 
served on in my 18 years in Congress. And working with you has 
allowed us to work together in a bipartisan fashion along with 
Mr. Graves and my ranking member, my leader, Mr. Larsen, in 
getting this bill passed. Your leadership on this committee has 
been phenomenal, and when they go back, in my opinion, and they 
look at Louisiana, they will think of Billy Cannon, Harry 
Connick, the Mannings, and Mr. Graves.
    While the 118th Congress is on track to become one of the 
least productive in U.S. history, that is not the case of this 
committee, where earlier this year, we passed, with 
overwhelmingly bipartisan support, the long-time and long-term 
FAA reauthorization bill. It has been over 6 months since the 
FAA reauthorization was signed into law, and it's time to 
ensure compliance with the instructions contained therein.
    The bill aimed to address numerous challenges facing our 
aviation system, and these include the modernization of safety 
and technology infrastructure; the integration of new entrants 
into U.S. skies, including drones that are called airplanes; 
the shortage of air traffic controllers; and the poor treatment 
of airline passengers, especially passengers with disabilities.
    Our witnesses today come from across the aviation sector, 
and they will provide valuable insights into the status of 
various provisions of the law. One provision particularly 
important to me, other than seat sizes, is to implement the 
overdue NTSB recommendation requiring airplanes flying long 
overwater routes to have better black box technology, which 
will allow investigators to recover flight data and cockpit 
recordings without the need to search the ocean floor.
    Two technologies can make this possible. One is data 
streaming through satellites, which sends black box data in 
real time. The other is deployable flight data recorder, which 
float on the water after a crash. A major aircraft manufacturer 
is already using this technology, making it much faster and 
easier for investigators to access the critical information. 
With the advanced technology available today, it is a no-
brainer, so, we are happy it is now law.
    The committee has taken great strides to improve 
transparency for the flying public and ensure our safety 
investigators have the information needed to prevent accidents. 
It is important to me this provision is implemented adequately.
    As we begin our 119th Congress next--which we will in 
January, this subcommittee will conduct ongoing oversight of 
the FAA, and we hope that if there is a change in 
Administrators at the FAA, it will be somebody who has intimate 
knowledge of this bill and is able to implement it and work 
well with this committee.
    We look forward to ensuring full compliance with the law. 
We will also work to provide the resources necessary for the 
FAA to carry out its statutory authority and to enact any 
additional legislation necessary to ensure the safety and 
efficiency of our Nation's airspace.
    Thank you to our witnesses for being here today. Thank you, 
Mr. Graves, for your service and your friendship, and I look 
forward to our discussion.
    [Mr. Cohen's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Hon. Steve Cohen of Tennessee, Ranking Member, 
                        Subcommittee on Aviation
    Thank you, Chairman Graves. It's been an honor to serve alongside 
you on this Subcommittee these past two years. Your leadership both on 
this committee and in Congress will surely be missed.
    While the 118th Congress is on track to become one of the least 
productive in U.S. history, that is not the case in this Committee, 
where earlier this year we passed an overwhelmingly bipartisan, long-
term FAA reauthorization bill.
    It has now been over six months since FAA reauthorization was 
signed into law, so it is time to ensure the law is being expeditiously 
implemented.
    The bill aimed to address numerous challenges facing our aviation 
system.
    These include the modernization of safety and technology 
infrastructure, the integration of new entrants into U.S. skies, the 
shortage of air traffic controllers, and the poor treatment of airline 
passengers, especially passengers with disabilities.
    Our witnesses today come from across the aviation sector, and they 
will provide valuable insights into the status of various provisions in 
the law.
    One provision particularly important to me is to implement the 
overdue NTSB recommendation requiring airplanes flying long overwater 
routes to have better black box technology, which would allow 
investigators to recover flight data and cockpit recordings without 
needing to search the ocean floor.
    Two technologies can make this possible. One is data streaming 
through satellites, which sends black box data in real-time. The other 
is Deployable Flight Data Recorder, which float on water after a crash.
    A major aircraft manufacturer is already using this technology, 
making it much faster and easier for investigators to access critical 
information.
    With the advanced technology available today, this is a ``no-
brainer,'' so I am happy this is now law.
    The Committee has taken great strides to improve transparency for 
the flying public and ensure our safety investigators have the 
information needed to prevent accidents, so it's important to me that 
this provision is implemented adequately.
    As we begin the 119th Congress in January, this Subcommittee will 
conduct ongoing oversight of the FAA, and we look forward to ensuring 
full compliance with the law.
    We will also work to provide the resources necessary for the FAA to 
carry out its statutory authority and to enact any additional 
legislation necessary to ensure the safety and efficiency of our 
nation's airspace.
    Thank you to our witnesses for being here today, and I look forward 
to our discussion.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Cohen.
    I recognize full committee Chairman Sam Graves for 5 
minutes.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. SAM GRAVES OF MISSOURI, CHAIRMAN, 
         COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

    Mr. Graves of Missouri. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    It is imperative that we conduct rigorous oversight of the 
FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 to ensure that the FAA follows 
the letter of the law and is held accountable for meeting key 
deadlines that Congress has set, and I look forward to hearing 
from each of our witnesses. Thank you all for being here. I 
look forward to hearing your perspective on the FAA's efforts 
to implement the new aviation law as we work together to 
advance American aviation.
    Everyone here knows that I can spend more than my share of 
time identifying late provisions and talking at length about 
how the FAA should do its job, but I want to use my time to 
recognize that today is my colleague, Chairman Garret Graves, 
this is his last hearing at the committee.
    Garret's work on the committee, especially his leadership 
in helping craft the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, has 
solidified his legacy as a staunch advocate for aviation. Over 
this Congress, he has worked to advance solutions that propel 
new technologies, improve the passenger experience for all 
travelers, and bolster the aviation workforce.
    Anyone who knows or works with Garret and his team to push 
a bill forward knows that Garret gives it everything that he 
has, and then some, to get the job done. His efforts were 
instrumental in getting this bill over the finish line, and I 
am grateful for his partnership and his friendship over the 
years.
    Garret, thank you for your work on the committee and the 
subcommittee, and I look forward to seeing what you do next. 
And with that, I'll yield back.
    [Mr. Graves of Missouri's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
Prepared Statement of Hon. Sam Graves of Missouri, Chairman, Committee 
                  on Transportation and Infrastructure
    It is imperative that we conduct rigorous oversight of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 to ensure the FAA follows the letter of the 
law and is held accountable for meeting the key deadlines Congress set.
    I look forward to hearing from each of our witnesses on their 
perspective of the FAA's efforts to implement the new aviation law, as 
we work together to advance American aviation.
    Everyone here knows I could spend more than my fair share of time 
identifying late provisions and talking at lengths about how FAA should 
do its job, but I want to use my time to recognize that today is my 
colleague's, Chairman Garret Graves', last hearing at the Committee.
    Garret's work on this committee, especially his leadership in 
helping craft the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, has solidified his 
legacy as a staunch advocate for aviation. Over this Congress, he has 
worked to advance solutions that propel new technologies, improve the 
passenger experience for all travelers, and bolster the aviation 
workforce.
    Anyone who works with Garret and his team to push a bill forward 
knows that Garret gives it his all and then some to get the job done. 
His efforts were instrumental in getting this bill over the finish 
line, and I am grateful for his partnership and friendship over the 
years.
    Garret, thank you for your work on the Committee and Subcommittee, 
and I look forward to seeing what you do next.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Me, too. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I now recognize the ranking member of the full committee, 
Mr. Larsen, for 5 minutes.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. RICK LARSEN OF WASHINGTON, RANKING 
     MEMBER, COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    I, like many of us, am disappointed that the cameras in the 
hallway were not here to cover Garret Graves' last hearing. 
However, it is good that we are all here to be here and honor 
him, though, for his work in this committee, but also in the 
House as a whole, and also for his personal friendship and our 
getting to know each other over the fact that I represented his 
in-laws for some time, and a lot of his family members in my 
district as well.
    But I want to thank you for calling the hearing today, the 
implementation of the 2024 FAA law.
    In response to these challenges that aviation faces over 
the last few years, Congress did rise to the occasion. This 
committee engaged in a thorough process. We negotiated and 
compromised to reach a bipartisan and bicameral solution to 
deliver for the flying public.
    I want to thank today's witnesses as well for providing 
critical input during that time as we worked through this 
process, from the bill's introduction to the final passage. 
Now, whether supporting the integration of new entrants in the 
airspace or overseeing the FAA's commitment to a safer and more 
efficient national airspace, your enthusiasm, Garret, your 
expertise, and your partnership will be missed. We will all 
miss that. So, I wish you the best of luck in your future 
endeavors.
    The passage of the 2024 FAA reauthorization was only the 
first step in ensuring the U.S. remains the gold standard in 
aviation safety, efficiency, and innovation. For instance, the 
law will increase the safety and efficiency of our airspace and 
help prevent close-calls and near-misses on airport runways 
across the country.
    An FAA NAS Safety Review Team report on this found that air 
traffic controller staff shortages actively erode the margin of 
safety in the national airspace. To address these workforce and 
safety concerns, the law includes several provisions, including 
the FAA do several things, including hiring the maximum number 
of controllers annually, improving its controller staffing 
model, and expanding the deployment of surface surveillance and 
detection equipment at U.S. airports.
    The law also calls on the FAA to take decisive actions to 
address aging FAA air traffic control legacy systems.
    These crucial reforms will ultimately enhance the long-term 
efficiency and safety of our national airspace while creating 
good-paying aviation jobs.
    Passenger safety also depends on worker safety, and as we 
emerged from the pandemic and air travel demand surged, there 
were an alarming number of unruly passenger incidents 
endangering flightcrews and passengers alike. So, to address 
this threat, the law created a task force to prevent such 
assaults and mandated airlines to establish employee assault 
and response plans.
    Meanwhile, recent flight disruptions have shaken the flying 
public's confidence in air travel. For example, earlier this 
year, certain air carriers were unable to cope with the global 
IT outage, leaving thousands of passengers stranded.
    To get us back on the right trajectory, the law requires 
airlines to provide full cash refunds to consumers affected by 
delayed or canceled flights and develop policies addressing 
reimbursement for passengers for hotel and meal costs when a 
flight is canceled or significantly delayed.
    So, while reimbursing passengers affected by flight 
disruptions is one way to protect consumers, we have to do more 
to ensure every passenger can travel safely and with dignity. 
The FAA reauthorization improves training for airline personnel 
and contractors to better assist travelers with disabilities 
and directs the DOT to create a roadmap for airlines to reduce 
damage to wheelchairs and mobility aids.
    The law also increases funding for the Airport Improvement 
Program from $3.35 to $4 billion annually, of which at least 
$150 million in discretionary funds, the largest portion that's 
ever been required before, are to be spent on airport climate, 
noise, and other environmental impacts.
    Moreover, AIP funding can now be used to invest in 
infrastructure for alternative propulsion technologies, by 
allowing airports to fund the development of hydrogen and 
electrification infrastructure necessary to support new 
aircraft.
    Finally, the law improves the lives of neighboring airport 
communities by requiring the FAA to develop a plan to 
transition away from leaded fuel in general aviation by 2030 
and takes actions to mitigate the impacts of aviation noise 
across the country.
    Lastly, I want to talk about the talent pool, because the 
FAA reauthorization made robust investments in the American 
aviation workforce, providing resources to expand and 
strengthen the talent pool--a requirement for American 
innovation. For instance, the law invests $60 million annually 
in aviation workforce development grants to grow the next 
generation of aviation manufacturers, manufacturing workers, 
maintenance technicians, and pilots.
    The current and future challenges facing the U.S. aviation 
system are significant, but not insurmountable, and I believe 
together we can meet these challenges. Congress did its job in 
passing the 2024 FAA reauthorization this past May. Now the FAA 
and the DOT need to do their jobs to effectively implement the 
programs and fulfill the various provisions.
    I would note, again, I want to emphasize something that the 
chair said. Our vote here in the House was 387 to 26 and the 
Senate was 88-4. We know where those 30 people live, but we 
also know this: a strong bipartisan, bicameral support for the 
FAA reauthorization. The FAA and the DOT know the job it needs 
to do because Congress told the FAA and the DOT the job that it 
needs to do over the next several years.
    As the new administration comes on board, we want to both 
help the administration move forward on the work that we assign 
to the DOT and the FAA to do this, and we can all be successful 
in doing that and help the administration to do that, because 
they already have clear direction on what it needs to do.
    So, with that, I look forward to hearing from our witnesses 
about implementation, and again, I will thank my good friend, 
Garret Graves, for his service here at the committee and to the 
House. Thanks, Garret.
    [Mr. Larsen of Washington's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Hon. Rick Larsen of Washington, Ranking Member, 
             Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
    Thank you, Chairman Graves, for calling the hearing today on the 
implementation of the 2024 FAA law.
    In response to these challenges that aviation faces over the last 
few years, Congress did rise to the occasion.
    This Committee engaged in a thorough process, where we negotiated 
and compromised to reach a bipartisan, bicameral solution to deliver 
for the flying public.
    I want to thank today's witnesses as well for providing critical 
input to the T&I Committee during that time as we worked through this 
process, from the bill's introduction to final passage.
    Whether supporting the integration of new entrants in the airspace 
or overseeing the FAA's commitment to a safer and more efficient 
national airspace, your enthusiasm, Chairman Graves, your expertise and 
your partnership will be missed. We will all miss that.
    I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
    The passage of the 2024 FAA Reauthorization was only the first step 
in ensuring that the United States remains the gold standard in 
aviation safety, efficiency, and innovation.
    For instance, the law will increase the safety and efficiency of 
our airspace and help prevent the close calls and near misses on 
airport runways across the country.
    An FAA NAS Safety Review Team report on this found that air traffic 
controller staff shortages actively erode the margin of safety in the 
national airspace.
    To address these workforce and safety concerns, the law includes 
several provisions directing the FAA to hire the maximum number of 
controllers annually, improve its controller staffing model and expand 
the deployment of surface surveillance and detection equipment at U.S. 
airports.
    The law also calls on the FAA to take decisive actions to address 
aging FAA air traffic control legacy systems.
    These crucial reforms will ultimately enhance the long-term 
efficiency and safety of our national airspace system while creating 
good-paying aviation jobs.
    Passenger safety also depends on worker safety.
    As we emerged from the pandemic and air travel demand surged, there 
were an alarming number of unruly passenger incidents--endangering 
flight crews and passengers alike.
    To address this threat, the law created a task force to prevent 
such assaults and mandated airlines to establish employee assault and 
response plans.
    Meanwhile, recent flight disruptions have shaken the flying 
public's confidence in air travel.
    For example, earlier this year, certain air carriers were unable to 
cope with a global IT outage, leaving thousands of passengers stranded.
    To get us back on the right trajectory, the law requires airlines 
to provide full cash refunds to consumers affected by delayed or 
canceled flights and develop policies addressing reimbursement for 
passengers for hotel and meal costs when a flight is canceled or 
significantly delayed.
    While reimbursing passengers affected by flight disruptions is one 
way to protect consumers, we have to do more to ensure every passenger 
can travel safely and with dignity.
    The FAA reauthorization improves training for airline personnel and 
contractors to better assist travelers with disabilities and directs 
the DOT to create a roadmap for airlines to reduce damage to 
wheelchairs and mobility aids.
    The law also increases funding for the Airport Improvement Program 
(AIP) from $3.35 billion to $4 billion annually, of which at least $150 
million in discretionary funds--the largest portion that's ever been 
required before--are to be spent on airport climate, noise and other 
environmental impacts.
    Moreover, AIP funding can now be used to invest in the 
infrastructure for alternative propulsion technologies, by allowing 
airports to fund the development of hydrogen and electrification 
infrastructure necessary to support new aircraft.
    Finally, the law improves the lives of neighboring airport 
communities by requiring the FAA to develop a plan to transition away 
from leaded fuel in general aviation by 2030 and takes action to 
mitigate the impacts of aviation noise across the country.
    Lastly, I want to talk about the talent pool. The FAA 
Reauthorization made robust investments in the American aviation 
workforce, providing resources to expand and strengthen the talent 
pool--a requirement for American innovation.
    For instance, the law invests $60 million annually in aviation 
workforce development grants to grow the next generation of aviation 
manufacturers, manufacturing workers, maintenance technicians and 
pilots.
    The current and future challenges facing the U.S. aviation system 
are significant but not insurmountable.
    I believe, together, we all can meet these challenges.
    Congress did its job in passing the 2024 FAA Reauthorization this 
past May.
    Now we must ensure the FAA and DOT do their jobs by effectively 
implementing the programs and fulfilling the various provisions.
    I would note, and I want to emphasize what the Chair said, our vote 
here in the House was 387-26 and the Senate was 88-4. We know that 
there was strong bipartisan, bicameral support for the FAA 
Reauthorization. The FAA and the DOT knows the job it needs to do 
because Congress told the FAA and the DOT the job it needs to do over 
the next several years. As the new administration comes on board, we 
want to help the administration move forward on the work that we 
assigned to the DOT and the FAA so we can all be successful in doing 
the work on which Congress provided clear direction.
    I look forward to hearing from today's witnesses regarding the FAA 
and DOT's progress on implementation of the 2024 FAA reauthorization 
law.
    Thank you.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Ranking Member Larsen.
    I recognize Ranking Member Cohen for a unanimous consent 
request.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, sir. First, I would like to welcome 
our witnesses. Thank them for being here today to help us with 
this. And I would like to take a moment to explain our lighting 
system. The first light is green. It has nothing to do with any 
New Deal or anything. It means you are on. Yellow doesn't mean 
to be chicken. It means you are running out of time, which may 
be chickening out before you get the red light where you get 
the buzzer.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. We wrote you a script. We wrote 
you a script.
    Mr. Cohen. I am like you. I ad-libbed.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Cohen. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that I be 
allowed to ad-lib and that the witnesses' full statements be 
included in the record.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Without objection.
    Mr. Cohen. Mr. Chairman, I also ask unanimous consent that 
the record of today's hearing remain open until such time as 
our witnesses have provided answers to any questions that may 
be submitted to them in writing.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Without objection, so ordered.
    Mr. Cohen. I also ask unanimous consent that the record 
remain open for 15 days for any additional comments and 
information submitted by Members or witnesses to be included in 
the record of today's hearing.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Without objection, so ordered.
    Mr. Cohen. As your written testimony has been made part of 
the record, the subcommittee asks that you limit your oral 
remarks to 5 minutes. Red light, 5 minutes. Thank you.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Cohen. I ask 
unanimous consent to enter statements from AUVSI/CDA and 
Reliable Robotics in the record. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
 Statement of Michael Robbins, President and Chief Executive Officer, 
   Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International, and Lisa 
 Ellman, Executive Director, Commercial Drone Alliance, Submitted for 
                    the Record by Hon. Garret Graves
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, Chairman Graves, and 
Ranking Member Cohen,
    The Commercial Drone Alliance (``CDA'') \1\ and the Association for 
Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International (``AUVSI'') \2\ and our 
respective memberships thank you for holding this important hearing and 
appreciate the opportunity to provide our thoughts on the 
implementation of critical provisions of the Federal Aviation 
Administration (``FAA'') Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63). 
While we and our members are focused on many key provisions in P.L. 
118-63 that must be implemented in a timely manner, this Statement for 
the Record focuses on the mandates included in Section 930 of the 
legislation, which calls for the FAA Administrator to expeditiously 
release the Beyond Visual Line-of-Sight (``BVLOS'') Notice of Proposed 
Rulemaking (``NPRM'') and final rule, with firm deadlines. We also very 
much appreciate the recent bipartisan letter sent by numerous members 
of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee to the executive 
branch on this very topic.\3\
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    \1\ The CDA is an independent non-profit organization comprised of 
the leaders in the commercial drone industry. The CDA brings together 
commercial drone end-users; manufacturers; third-party service 
providers; advanced air mobility (``AAM'') companies; drone security 
companies; and vertical markets including oil and gas, precision 
agriculture, construction, security, communications technology, 
infrastructure, newsgathering, filmmaking, and more. The CDA works with 
policymakers across government to craft policies for industry growth 
and educates the public on the safe, responsible use of commercial 
drones to achieve economic benefits and humanitarian gains, including 
the countless public benefits enabled by commercial drone beyond visual 
line-of-sight (BVLOS) operations.
    \2\ AUVSI is the world's largest non-profit organization dedicated 
to the advancement of uncrewed systems, autonomy, and robotics. We 
represent corporations and professionals from more than 60 countries 
that are involved in industry, government, and academia. AUVSI's 
primary markets span the defense, civil, and commercial industries. 
Uncrewed systems represent an expansive market within the 
transportation system, and it is our mission to ensure all types of 
uncrewed systems, autonomy, and robotics companies that work with us 
have access to the resources they need to be successful in such a 
highly competitive industry. AUVSI's Air Advocacy Committee (``AAC'') 
sets the legislative and regulatory priorities in the air domain for 
the association via input and feedback from its membership. The AAC is 
comprised of a diverse group of member companies, including UAS 
operators, domestic and allied UAS manufacturers, software companies, 
defense contractors, counter-UAS companies, AAM companies, Drone as 
First Responder (``DFR'') companies, public safety experts, and much 
more.
    \3\ Letter from the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
to Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Administrator Michael Whitaker (Oct. 
21, 2024), https://transportation.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2024-10-21_--
_bvlos_letter_to_dot_faa.pdf.
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    Our understanding is that the FAA generated the BVLOS NPRM but 
progress stalled in the Office of the Secretary at the Department of 
Transportation (``DOT'') when the FAA sent the NPRM upward for review. 
The NPRM was held at DOT, without explanation, for ninety-plus days. 
This delay consequently delayed the Office of Information and 
Regulatory Affairs' (``OIRA'') interagency review process, as well. 
Unless urgent action is taken now to issue the BVLOS NPRM to initiate a 
public comment period, the result could be an indeterminate delay of 
the rulemaking process as the presidential transition takes effect--
harming the American drone industry and our global leadership in 
advanced aviation.
    Over the last several weeks, our organizations and our combined 
memberships have held a series of EO 12866 meetings with OIRA on the 
BVLOS NPRM. Importantly, OIRA invited key officials from FAA, DOT, and 
agencies within the Executive Office of the President (``EOP'') to 
attend these meetings. During those meetings, we stressed the 
importance of the draft safety rule moving forward before the change in 
administration to keep progress going, and the significant economic 
impact of a BVLOS rule for all Americans.
    In addition to a joint AUVSI/CDA leadership meeting, we convened 
industry experts from our combined memberships across six different 
sector-specific groups:
    1.  Public Safety/Law Enforcement/Physical Security Sector
    2.  Third-Party Service Providers
    3.  Agriculture Sector
    4.  Critical Infrastructure/Utilities/Energy Sector
    5.  Package Delivery/Health Care Sector
    6.  Newsgathering/Filmmaking/Entertainment Sector

    Each sector listed above explained the potential economic impacts 
of releasing this critical rule on their industry.
    In addition to this letter, we are submitting the following 
supporting documents from those meetings, all included at the end of 
this letter as appendices. These documents make key arguments on why 
the BVLOS NPRM must move forward before January 20, with supporting 
data and statistics on the economic impact a BVLOS rule will have on 
each sector. These documents have been uploaded to their respective 
OIRA dockets:
      November 22, 2024, EO 12866 meeting between AUVSI/CDA 
leadership and OIRA:
      1.  Levitate Capital White Paper Enterprise Market 2020
      2.  International BVLOS Survey--CDA AUVSI (11.27.24)
      3.  CDA AUVSI 12866 Submission (11.27.24)
      4.  AASHTO Mission Control 2019 AASHTO UAS-Drone Survey of All 50 
State DOTs
      5.  It's Past Time to Move Drone Rulemaking Forward--AUVSI-CDA 
Inside Unmanned Systems Op-Ed

      December 2, 2024, EO 12866 meeting between public safety/
law enforcement/physical security sector companies and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--AUVSI & CDA Membership BVLOS EO 12866 Meeting--
Public Safety--Law Enforcement--Physical Security Sector

      December 3, 2024, EO 12866 meeting between third-party 
service providers and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--AUVSI CDA Membership BVLOS EO 12866 Meeting--
Third-Party Service Providers Sector

      December 4, 2024, meeting between agriculture sector 
companies and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--AUVSI & CDA Membership BVLOS EO 12866 Meeting--
Agriculture Sector

      December 5, 2024, meeting between critical 
infrastructure/utilities/energy sector companies and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--BVLOS 12866 Meeting--Critical Infrastructure 
Energy Utilities Sector (12.6.2024)
      2.  NUAIR Economic Impact Letter

      December 5, 2024, meeting between package delivery/health 
care sector companies and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--AUVSI CDA Membership BVLOS EO 12866 Meeting--
Package Delivery and Healthcare Sector (12.6.24)

      December 6, 2024, meeting between newsgathering/
filmmaking/entertainment sector companies and OIRA:
      1.  Leave-Behind--AUVSI CDA Membership BVLOS EO 12866 Meeting--
Newsgathering Filmmaking Entertainment (12.10.2024)

    A BVLOS NPRM and subsequent final rule are critical to unlocking 
the vast benefits of the commercial drone industry for all Americans. 
Drones offer cost-effective solutions for critical operations including 
public safety, package delivery, precision agriculture, utilities 
maintenance, infrastructure inspections, and much more. Further delay 
puts the United States at risk of losing its global leadership in this 
new era of aviation, ceding a competitive edge to our competitors and 
adversaries.
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit this important information, 
and we look forward to working with you to ensure the FAA moves forward 
with the BVLOS NPRM--and final rule--in a timely manner.

                                 
  Statement of Robert W. Rose, Cofounder and Chief Executive Officer, 
Reliable Robotics Corporation, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Garret 
                                 Graves
    Chairman Garret Graves, Ranking Member Cohen, and members of the 
House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Subcommittee on 
Aviation:
    Thank you for your significant bipartisan efforts to enact the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 which provides a long-term and forward-
looking flight plan for the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). 
Reliable Robotics applauds the members and staff of the United States 
House Committee on Transportation & Infrastructure for their tireless 
efforts to achieve consensus on this legislation and the many 
opportunities for stakeholder input. Throughout the bill, there are 
clear examples that Congress believes innovation and safety-enhancing 
technologies are crucial for the United States to retain its leadership 
role in aviation. With the 5-year FAA reauthorization bill now enacted 
into law, we appreciate this opportunity to provide input on 
implementation and priorities.
    Reliable Robotics was founded in 2017 to develop and bring to 
market aviation safety-enhancing technologies, including auto-land, 
auto-taxi, and auto-takeoff, as well as high-integrity navigation and 
aircraft autonomy. These technologies will prevent the most common 
causes of fatal aviation accidents and save lives. Our company has 
significant experience working with the FAA on the certification and 
operational approval of innovative technologies, which directly 
informed our feedback during the FAA reauthorization process.
    With a comprehensive FAA reauthorization bill, and the priority the 
incoming Administration places on United States competitiveness, our 
nation has a unique opportunity to secure leadership positions in the 
aviation technologies most important to safety and national security. 
To seize this opportunity, the FAA should leverage tools in the 
reauthorization bill to focus policy and certification resources on 
aircraft autonomy. China and the United States are in a race for 
leadership in aircraft autonomy, which has significant safety and 
national security implications, and demands decisive policy actions. 
Taking a data driven approach that is free from outside influences and 
focuses FAA policy and certification resources on those safety 
technologies which will save the most lives is what should guide the 
agency moving forward.
                 Airspace Modernization and Integration
    Through Sections 206 and 207 of the reauthorization bill, Congress 
provided the FAA with a detailed framework to improve the integration 
of remotely piloted, autonomous and other Advanced Air Mobility (AAM) 
use cases into the National Airspace System (NAS). Standing up the 
Airspace Modernization Office (AMO) and transferring AAM 
responsibilities to the FAA's aviation safety organization will bring 
leadership-level focus to integration.
    Reliable appreciated the FAA's proactive outreach to industry 
stakeholders about formation of the AMO this past August. At that time, 
our company participated in a FAA-led listening session to discuss 
priorities for the AMO and submitted detailed written feedback. 
However, we are not aware of a follow-up session, or other opportunity 
for the FAA to provide responses as they process the inputs from 
industry. To maintain momentum in standing up the office, it would be 
helpful for the FAA to provide more regular updates on their progress 
and offer a detailed schedule on upcoming milestones. Leveraging 
industry trade associations that represent a broad cross section of 
certification applicants and operators to organize feedback as the AMO 
identifies priorities would also provide valuable perspectives.
    To set the AMO up for success, it must have the authority and 
resources to work across the entire Air Traffic Organization (ATO) and 
other FAA lines of business. In the past, similar efforts to establish 
integration or modernization functions at the FAA have failed, because 
resources weren't properly allocated and there was inadequate buy-in 
from agency leadership. To avoid these failures, the AMO should be 
established as a separate office, outside of the ATO, with a direct 
reporting line to the FAA Administrator. In addition, components of the 
Program Management Organization (PMO) that focus on acquiring and 
operationalizing new or modernized capabilities should be located 
within the AMO.
    This is crucial, as Congress intended the AMO to focus on ``the 
development of an information-centric NAS,'' and to be successful, it 
must be separate from maintenance and support functions, which are 
important, but not aligned with objectives for the new office. 
Establishing the AMO as a distinct organization, with necessary 
components from the PMO and prior NextGen organizations will enable it 
to coordinate with all lines of business involved in the integration of 
new airspace users and technologies. While many of the prior NextGen 
functions can serve as a starting point for the AMO, to achieve its 
full potential, the organization should have the authority and budget 
to acquire and develop new capabilities, beyond the existing ATO and 
NextGen portfolios.
       Working Across FAA Lines of Business to Support Innovation
    Reliable Robotics appreciates how the FAA's dedicated workforce 
continually engages with our team to advance the certification of 
aviation safety-enhancing technologies. However, as we move rapidly 
towards integrating large uncrewed aircraft systems (UAS) into 
controlled airspace, the work will shift from aircraft certification to 
air traffic and flight standards. Through Section 229, the 
reauthorization bill creates a leadership-level steering committee that 
brings together the agency lines of business responsible for 
integrating large UAS into the NAS. In addition, the group is charged 
with creating or updating the FAA's strategy for integrating advanced 
aviation technologies.
    Based on our understanding, this steering committee must be 
established in early 2025, but we are not aware of any updates on the 
structure or priorities. Prior to standing up this group, we recommend 
that the FAA consult industry stakeholders on top priorities to make 
certain that there is proper representation from across the agency. In 
addition, this Subcommittee should reinforce the critical importance of 
selecting FAA leaders with decision making authority to serve on the 
steering committee.
    Also, Section 916 of the reauthorization bill requires the FAA to 
establish a ``Unmanned and Autonomous Flight Advisory Committee.'' This 
committee will provide a structured forum for industry experts to work 
collaboratively with the FAA on policy and guidance that supports safe 
autonomous aircraft operations. The timeline for implementing this 
provision is based on the FAA terminating its prior ``Advanced Aviation 
Advisory Committee.'' Based on our understanding, the FAA ended the 
charter for the Advanced Aviation Advisory Committee, but we are not 
aware of a timeline to establish the new Unmanned and Autonomous Flight 
Advisory Committee. We respectfully recommend that this Subcommittee 
confirm the timing for establishing the new advisory committee and 
ensure there are FAA resources allocated to this activity.
                           Future NAS Vision
    The reauthorization bill has a significant focus on leveraging 
technologies available today, and those that will be developed in the 
future, to integrate all segments of AAM, including remotely piloted 
aircraft. For example, Section 932 requires the FAA to establish an 
approval process for third-party service providers which will play an 
important role in making the agency more responsive to innovation. This 
provision will enable the FAA to create a repeatable approval process 
for third-party providers, offering services such as ground-based 
detect and avoid and secure command and control links in the NAS. These 
services will leverage existing NAS infrastructure and enable 
innovative companies to rapidly meet the needs of AAM operators. 
Without a consistent and repeatable approval process, one off 
authorizations or waivers will be necessary, which diverts limited FAA 
resources and slows the adoption of innovative safety-enhancing 
technologies.
    We respectfully request that Congress closely track the May 2025 
deadline for the FAA to establish an approval process for third-party 
service providers. Clearly communicating the FAA's progress, and any 
opportunities for stakeholders to provide feedback on the new process 
will ensure these safety-enhancing services are delivered on time.

                                 * * *

    Reliable Robotics is proud to be developing and certifying aviation 
safety-enhancing aircraft autonomy in the United States. This 
technology will significantly improve aviation safety, connect more 
communities with air service and help provide for our national 
security. The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 provides the agency with 
the tools and resources to be more responsive to innovation, and we 
look forward to continued engagement with the Subcommittee on Aviation 
in the coming year.
    Please contact Scott O'Brien, Vice President, Legislative Affairs 
with any additional questions.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. With that, Mr. Terreri, you are 
recognized for 5 minutes for your testimony.

   TESTIMONY OF JASON TERRERI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SYRACUSE 
 REGIONAL AIRPORT AUTHORITY, ON BEHALF OF THE AIRPORTS COUNCIL 
  INTERNATIONAL-NORTH AMERICA (ACI-NA); ADAM WOODWORTH, CHIEF 
EXECUTIVE OFFICER, WING AVIATION LLC; PETER J. BUNCE, PRESIDENT 
  AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, GENERAL AVIATION MANUFACTURERS 
 ASSOCIATION (GAMA); AND GREG REGAN, PRESIDENT, TRANSPORTATION 
                TRADES DEPARTMENT, AFL-CIO (TTD)

   TESTIMONY OF JASON TERRERI, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SYRACUSE 
 REGIONAL AIRPORT AUTHORITY, ON BEHALF OF THE AIRPORTS COUNCIL 
              INTERNATIONAL-NORTH AMERICA (ACI-NA)

    Mr. Terreri. Good morning. I am Jason Terreri, the 
executive director of the Syracuse Regional Airport Authority 
in New York. I am also here today in my capacity as chair of 
the U.S. Policy Council for Airports Council International-
North America, the trade association for America's airports.
    Chairman Sam Graves, Chairman Garret Graves, Ranking Member 
Larsen, and Ranking Member Cohen, thank you for having me here 
today to share the commercial service airport's perspective on 
FAA reauthorization implementation.
    On behalf of the airport industry, I would like to start by 
saying thank you. Once fully implemented, the FAA 
reauthorization bill of 2024 will have significant and positive 
impacts across the entire airport system. And subcommittee 
Chairman Graves, thank you for all you have done to help and 
support airports.
    I appreciate this opportunity to explain our position on 
the act's implementation, including the work both the FAA and 
Congress need to do to bring this bill's promise to fruition. 
It is vital that the FAA implements the statutory provisions 
consistent with congressional intent, and your rigorous 
oversight through hearings like this are critical to ensure 
that happens.
    The $4 billion in AIP funding and formula changes included 
in the act will allow airports to benefit from more AIP 
entitlement dollars, allowing airports to prioritize important 
infrastructure projects at their facilities for years to come. 
While we wait for the resolution of the fiscal year 2025 
spending bills, the FAA has not responded to the airport's 
request for a general sense of how much entitlement dollars 
will be allocated under the new formulas.
    We understand that nothing is certain as it comes to 
funding, but it is incredibly difficult to plan for projects 
without having a better idea of how much money we might 
receive. Also, once the appropriations process is complete, and 
I emphasize again that the AIP needs a full year of 
appropriated funding at the $4 billion level to ensure it 
functions properly, we ask for your continued oversight to 
ensure new formulas are executed in the manner you intended.
    Next, I would like to highlight two provisions that 
Congress had to include in the 2024 bill, because the FAA 
failed to implement the provisions from the 2018 bill. First, 
is section 776, which expands to all airports the streamlining 
process for imposing and utilizing passenger facility charges 
for infrastructure projects while maintaining all current 
public consultation and comment requirements will help the 
airport infrastructure projects get underway more 
expeditiously.
    The FAA should immediately begin rulemaking by this 
legislation as airports cannot take advantage of the 
streamlined process until the FAA's work is complete.
    Second is section 743, which prohibits the FAA from 
regulating the land use of certain airport property that was 
purchased with local funds. This issue has directly impacted my 
airport, and it has hurt others, too. Businesses have walked 
away from economic development opportunities because FAA 
regulatory determinations take far too long. The FAA should 
move quickly to amend its land use policy and to account for 
this new statute. I hope we get a chance to discuss this 
further today.
    On another matter, the airports appreciate this committee's 
work to facilitate the transition to aircraft firefighting 
foams that do not contain high levels of PFAS chemicals. 
Directing the FAA to provide regular transition updates and 
authorizing funding for airports to transition to the new foams 
were key provisions in the 2024 act. We are eager to move 
forward with any transition funding Congress provides, but as 
with AIP, we are awaiting appropriations.
    We are grateful to the many members of this committee that 
signed on to the letters spearheaded by Congressman Carbajal 
and Lawler on the need for this funding. We expect to talk to 
you all more in the new Congress about this transition and 
other issues involving PFAS at airports.
    I would like to conclude with an issue that we spend a lot 
of time on in Syracuse through our work with the New York Air 
National Guard and NUAIR, which is the integration of new 
entrants into the National Airspace System. From my experience, 
as the only airport in the United States that has fully 
integrated drone operations, it is essential for airport 
operators to be at the table with FAA as they proceed and 
develop the implementation of an updated air traffic management 
system.
    We also need close collaboration with both FAA and 
prospective AAM and UAS operators regarding the airport and 
vertiport infrastructure needed to support future operations.
    And finally, we need Congress to pass updated UAS detection 
and mitigation authorities to our Federal partners along with 
airports and other operators of critical infrastructure with a 
strong legislative framework upon which to address UAS threats.
    In closing, I want to thank you for listening to our 
concerns and incorporating many of our industry's top policy 
issues into the recent FAA reauthorization bill. Now that the 
bill has been signed, there is still a lot of work to do. We 
will continue to do our part and look forward to working with 
you and the FAA on the implementation of this important 
legislation. Thank you.
    [Mr. Terreri's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
   Prepared Statement of Jason Terreri, Executive Director, Syracuse 
     Regional Airport Authority, on behalf of the Airports Council 
                  International-North America (ACI-NA)
    Good morning. I am Jason Terreri, the Executive Director of 
Syracuse Regional Airport Authority in New York. Chairman Sam Graves, 
Chairman Garret Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, and Ranking Member 
Cohen, thank you for providing me the opportunity today to share the 
commercial-service airports' perspective on FAA reauthorization 
implementation. I am also here in my capacity as Chair of the U.S. 
Policy Council at Airports Council International-North America (ACI-
NA), the trade association for America's airports.
    On behalf of the airport industry, I want to start with a ``thank 
you.'' Once fully funded and implemented, the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024 will have significant and positive impacts across the entire 
airport system. From increasing funding for airport infrastructure to 
reducing costly regulatory burdens, the new FAA law is full of 
meaningful and overdue reforms to the FAA and the airport industry. We 
recognize the 2024 law did not happen in a vacuum, as our industry has 
been front and center with Congress and this committee through multiple 
COVID-relief measures, a landmark infrastructure law, and now the 
latest FAA reauthorization act. We greatly appreciate all your 
commitment and assistance in helping to keep America's airports open 
and growing as we are now collectively experiencing our largest 
passenger volumes ever.
    I appreciate this opportunity to explain our position on the 
implementation of the 2024 FAA Act, including the work both the FAA and 
Congress need to do to bring the bill's promise to fruition. Since the 
enactment, we have been pushing the FAA to move quickly on implementing 
the good work of this Congress, and we ask that moving forward you 
continue your oversight to ensure that FAA will follow your intent. As 
I will highlight for you today, the FAA failed to implement several 
provisions from the 2018 FAA Act, including airport land use and PFC 
streamlining requirements, that then had to be addressed again in the 
latest law. It is vital that the FAA implements statutory provisions 
consistent with congressional intent and your rigorous oversight 
through hearings like this is critical to ensure this happens.
                              AIP Funding
    The Airport Improvement Program (AIP) needs a full year of 
appropriated funding at $4 billion in order for the new formula changes 
to work properly. The formula changes, first proposed by this committee 
and included in the final bill, will allow all airports to benefit from 
more AIP entitlement dollars, letting airports prioritize important 
infrastructure projects at their facilities for years to come. While we 
wait for a final resolution on the fiscal year 2025 spending bills, 
airports have asked the FAA for specific dollar amounts of entitlement 
dollars they should expect, but the FAA has been unwilling to share 
this information. Although we understand that nothing is certain when 
it comes to funding, it is incredibly difficult to plan for projects 
without having a better idea of how much money we might receive. Even a 
general idea of funding amounts would be helpful. Once the 
appropriations process is complete, and I emphasize again that AIP 
needs a full year of appropriated funding at $4 billion to function 
properly, we ask that this committee continue oversight to ensure the 
new formulas are executed in the manner the act intended.
                            Airport Land Use
    The FAA should move quickly to implement the new congressional 
instructions on dealing with airport land use included in the 2024 Act 
and amend the agency's land use policy issued in early 2024 to account 
for the new statutory regime.
    Section 743 of the 2024 Act rewrites a provision from the 2018 Act 
prohibiting the FAA from regulating, directly or indirectly, the 
acquisition, use, lease, transfer, or disposal of airport property by 
an airport owner or operator if the land was not purchased with federal 
funds, except to ensure that the safety and efficiency of flight 
operations are maintained, and that fair market value is received.
    While the new provision cedes some authority back to FAA on what 
type of land is subject to oversight, it places some new limits on the 
agency's authority--such as prohibiting the FAA from extending its 
review authority to any non-aeronautical portions of a project and 
setting a 45-day review window for the FAA to raise any objections. 
These new limits should help move airport projects along more quickly, 
avoiding costly FAA delays that have hurt airports like Syracuse. Since 
the land use provision was not implemented properly back in 2018, my 
airport lost a significant revenue opportunity on a development deal. 
Since getting this right is this is a top priority for airports, the 
FAA should socialize the procedures to implement the new law with their 
headquarters and regional offices staff and airports as quickly as 
possible. Real economic opportunities are at stake if the FAA chooses 
to continue to ignore congressional intent.
                            PFC Streamlining
    The FAA should move quickly to start rulemaking on the new pilot 
program that will significantly reduce the paperwork burden and federal 
review times for airport infrastructure projects utilizing passenger 
facility charges (PFCs).
    Section 776 of the 2024 Act broadens a pilot program from the 2018 
Act allowing airports, under certain conditions and with FAA approval, 
to file a notice of their intent to impose a PFC rather than file a 
full application with the FAA. While the pilot program maintains all 
presently required air carrier consultation and comment requirements 
and permits the FAA to require additional review in certain 
circumstances, it also sets limits on when the FAA may object to an 
airport's request. Additionally, the section leaves in place the FAA's 
current process for allowing participation in the pilot program until 
the FAA conducts new rulemaking to account for the new law, which is 
already significantly delayed from its September 13 deadline.
    Already having missed the statutory deadline, the FAA should start 
the rulemaking as quickly as possible and consider the public comments 
ACI-NA filed earlier this year on ways to improve the pilot program so 
airport infrastructure projects can get underway more expeditiously.
                             FAA Operations
    Our airport enjoys a strong working relationship with our FAA 
representatives. However, the post-pandemic period has been difficult. 
I am fortunate to run an airport that is growing, and our challenges 
are mostly due to regulatory and financial constraints that limit the 
pace of our expansion. We need an FAA that is present at our airports, 
cognizant of the economic environments in which we operate, and 
committed to expediting, not delaying, development. We have worked 
through most of the issues we have experienced such as land releases, 
but I would urge the committee to work with the FAA to ensure they are 
on the job and focused on being partners in the mission to grow.
                      Firefighting Foam Transition
    Airports appreciate the committee's work with airports and the 
aircraft rescue and firefighting community to facilitate the transition 
from aqueous film-forming foam (AFFF) to fluorine-free foam (F3). 
Directing the FAA to provide regular transition updates to airports and 
authorizing funding for airports to transition to the new foams were 
key provisions in the 2024 Act. We are eager to move forward with any 
F3 transition funding Congress provides, but, as with the AIP, we are 
waiting for appropriations.
    The Senate's transportation spending bill contains the first $70 
million in transition funds. ACI-NA worked with Congressmen Carbajal 
and Lawler on a bipartisan letter to House appropriators signed by over 
80 members--including many on this committee--asking the House to 
accept the Senate provision in a final spending bill. We ask you to 
continue to weigh in with appropriators to ensure that this bipartisan 
provision is properly funded in the final spending bill.
    Unfortunately, airports' work on PFAS does not just end with 
funding. Earlier this year the EPA finalized a rule designating PFOA 
and PFOS as a hazardous substance under the Comprehensive Environmental 
Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA). Airports, as 
mandated by the federal government, have used firefighting foams 
containing PFOA and PFOS for decades. We have done so in good faith to 
meet our federal mandate of keeping the traveling public safe. Now that 
we know these chemicals have harmful health and environmental impacts, 
airports are beginning the costly transition to new firefighting foams. 
However, being held liable for doing what the federal government has 
required us to do puts U.S. airports in an impossible position. As part 
of EPA's final rule, the agency issued an administrative policy that it 
did not intend to pursue entities like airports, but since this is 
subject to administrative discretion it is not binding law. We ask that 
Congress grant U.S. airports a specific CERCLA-liability exemption. 
ACI-NA and its members strongly support S. 1433, the Airports PFAS 
Liability Protection Act introduced by Senator Lummis, and we hope this 
issue will be high on congressional agenda next year.
                             Airside Safety
    Airports want to participate with the FAA in initiatives to improve 
runway, taxiway, and apron safety, including implementation of the 
broad provisions under Title III of the 2024 Act, as well as in 
separate initiatives dealing with apron safety, FOD detection, airside 
ground vehicle tracking, and continuing improvements to signage and 
marking. As significant stakeholders in the U.S. aviation system, 
airports want to ensure that safety measures are effective, affordable, 
and appropriate.
                             NEPA Processes
    Airports look forward to implementation of the new CatEx provision 
in the 2024 Act, which hopefully will enable limited environmental 
review resources to be focused on larger projects that really require 
this focus. Your continued attention to these matters is appreciated.
                         Air Traffic Management
    Airports are concerned about the current state of the U.S. air 
traffic control system. Although we have seen benefits from the decade 
and a half focus on modernization of the air traffic control system 
known as NextGen, we have seen an array of NAS challenges causing 
delays, disruption, and--most critically--adversely impact the safety 
of the U.S. National Airspace System (NAS). These challenges include 
air traffic control staffing, training, and the sustainment of critical 
NAS equipment from air traffic control towers, surveillance systems, 
communications systems, and navigational aids. They also include 
emerging issues such as bolstering the resiliency of the NAS to cyber 
threats and the integration of new entrant aircraft.
    We appreciate the provisions in the 2024 Reauthorization Act that 
address these issues, which are critical to the safe and efficient 
operation of the NAS.
                        New Entrant Integration
    New entrant aircraft--inclusive of uncrewed aircraft systems (UAS) 
and advanced air mobility (AAM) aircraft--have captured the imagination 
of the aviation industry and open the door to an exciting array of 
innovative use cases.
    Integrating both categories of new entrants into a mature and 
complex airspace system is a significant undertaking that requires a 
re-envisioning of how our NAS is managed. At Syracuse, we have been 
proud to be on the cutting edge of this effort through our longstanding 
partnership with the 174th Attack Wing of the New York Air National 
Guard, which operates the MQ-9 from our airport, as well as through our 
partnership with NUAIR, who managed the New York FAA-designated UAS 
Test Site for over a decade and recently relocated their operations to 
our airport as they advance their UAS operations and expand into AAM.
    Through this work with our key partners, I have had a front row 
seat to the challenges we need to confront in integrating new entrant 
aircraft into the NAS. It is essential for airport operators to be at 
the table as the FAA proceeds with developing and implementing unmanned 
air traffic system management and integration of AAM into the current 
air traffic management system. Airport operators have critical equities 
in the safety, efficiency, and community impacts these integration 
efforts. We also see the need for close collaboration with both the FAA 
and prospective AAM and UAS operators regarding the airport and 
vertiport infrastructure needed to support future operations. Although 
airports were not specifically named in the 2024 FAA Act as a 
stakeholder in sec. 916, it is important for airports to have a seat on 
the Unmanned and Autonomous Flight Advisory Committee created by this 
section.
    Challenges and risks associated with these new entrant aircraft--
particularly UAS--have multiplied as UAS technology has matured and 
become increasingly accessible to all, posing numerous risks. We 
believe it is essential for airport operators to have both regulatory 
and statutory foundations that enable us to protect aviation 
infrastructure from such bad actors. Unfortunately, provisions that 
address rapidly maturing provisions were not included in the 2024 Act. 
I urge you and your colleagues in the Senate to move to resolve 
differences between House and Senate versions of UAS detection and 
mitigation provisions and provide airport operators--along with other 
operators of critical infrastructure--a strong legislative framework 
upon which to address UAS threats.
    Finally, both UAS and AAM will rely on fundamentally different 
energy sources than today's general aviation and commercial aircraft, 
with a heavy focus on electricity and an emerging focus on hydrogen. We 
encourage you to work closely with your colleagues on the Energy and 
Commerce Committee going forward to address critical energy supply and 
distribution challenges that increasing UAS and AAM operations will 
drive.

                                * * * *

    In closing, thank you for listening to our concerns and 
incorporating many of our industry's top policy issues into the recent 
FAA reauthorization law. Airports realize that even though the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 has been signed into law, much work 
remains. We will continue to do our part and look forward to working 
with you and the FAA on the implementation of this important 
legislation.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Mr. Terreri, thank you, and I want 
to say, I think I can speak for the full panel here that we 
have great frustration with the FAA's lack of clarity to you as 
well in regard to the 5-year authorization levels, and the 
reason we do a 5-year bill is to provide that clarity and 
certainty moving forward, and so, just know that you have a 
number of allies. We did it for a reason. We wrote it for a 
reason, and we are pushing them to get the information out to 
airports as soon as possible.
    Mr. Woodworth, thank you for being back. You are recognized 
for 5 minutes.

  TESTIMONY OF ADAM WOODWORTH, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, WING 
                          AVIATION LLC

    Mr. Woodworth. Good morning, members of the subcommittee, 
and thank you, Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, 
subcommittee Chairman Graves, and subcommittee Ranking Member 
Cohen for inviting me to offer my perspective on the 
implementation of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024. I am 
here in my capacity as the chief executive officer of Wing, a 
logistics company focused on package delivery by drone of 
retail goods, food items, and medical supplies. My testimony 
will offer a broad overview of where we have been, where we are 
going, and what you can do now to help American industry.
    A year and a half ago, as this committee was ramping up its 
efforts to assemble an FAA reauthorization bill, I testified 
about the need for a predictable and pragmatic approach to 
drone integration and a regulatory framework that will allow us 
to fly by rule rather than by exception. For several years, the 
United States progress had stalled. This committee recognized 
that and acted in a bipartisan fashion to provide oversight and 
craft sensible policy solutions to advance safe drone 
integration.
    I am thankful to Congress and to this committee's 
leadership that the Reauthorization Act of 2024 includes 
numerous provisions that enable the FAA to move the drone 
operations forward. This is working, and we are making real 
progress again in the United States.
    The FAA streamlined the waiver process and created a new 
criteria for making determinations that enables timely updates 
to our hardware and software. It has approved beyond visual 
line of sight operations and enabled us to fly with our detect 
and avoid systems without the need for visual observers. And in 
north Texas, industry has implemented a UAS traffic management 
structure overseen by the FAA, which provides a framework for 
commercial BVLOS operators that is repeatable nationwide and 
has drawn interest from stakeholders all around the globe.
    This has enabled true expansion in the domestic market. 
This year, Wing's delivery service has grown across the DFW 
area where we currently operate from 16 partner locations to 
the service area covering an estimated population of over 2 
million people. We are operating every day with the United 
States largest employer, with Walmart, and its largest food 
aggregator, with DoorDash, delivering tens of thousands of 
orders this year alone. We can also now field the best versions 
of our service rolling out timely updates to aircraft hardware 
and software that improve accessibility and capabilities to our 
customers.
    We have seen how drone delivery can improve the experience 
of customers day-to-day and we have seen the impact drone 
delivery can have when it matters most as we conducted disaster 
assistance in North Carolina in partnership with Walmart after 
Hurricane Helene.
    We have done this while continuing to build relationships 
with the communities we operate in and around. We have 
participated in some of general aviation's largest events 
allowing aviators and the general public to see what drone 
delivery actually looks like and showing those communities how 
we can safely share airspace.
    We continue to have the support from the communities we 
operate in, showing that there is true economic and customer 
demand for these services, and this progress has given us 
confidence to invest further in the U.S. market and has come 
from the positive changes that we have seen at the FAA because 
of your work.
    Beyond our operations in Texas and Virginia, we are now 
looking to further expand into more States starting with North 
Carolina and then further into Florida next year. Companies 
across our industry have seen similar advances in their 
operations, and this progress has been truly transformative for 
our businesses. So, I want to ask for your continued support 
and oversight as the FAA reauthorization moves toward 
implementation over the coming year.
    First, we need to publish the BVLOS draft notice of 
proposed rulemaking. It is critical to get this rule out to 
allow for public and industry comment.
    Second, the FAA must work to streamline the environmental 
approval process. This remains the longest lead item for 
expansion and must see a more programmatic and nationwide 
approach to this process. While the FAA is making strides here, 
the progress is still slow.
    Third, we must consider a pragmatic approach to hazardous 
material treatment. The FAA must provide a more sensible 
approach for small drones to carry everyday items like 
thermometers, small batteries, and over-the-counter medicine.
    And fourth, the FAA must continue to focus on implementing 
section 927 which calls for the FAA to streamline and improve 
the process of issuing 44807 waivers.
    The great news is that the FAA reauthorization bill 
provides a blueprint for all of this, and your oversight is 
critical to ensure that the FAA now builds the outcomes that 
you intended and cements the gains that have been made so far.
    Before I close my remarks, I would like to take a moment to 
offer my congratulations to subcommittee Chairman Garret Graves 
for his long career in committed public service. Today's 
hearing is an opportunity to recognize your lifelong pursuit of 
advancing sensible policy solutions. Your constituents in 
Louisiana and indeed the whole aviation sector are better for 
it, and we wish you well in your future endeavors.
    I thank the leadership of this committee for the 
opportunity to participate in today's hearing, and I will be 
pleased to answer your questions at the appropriate time. Thank 
you.
    [Mr. Woodworth's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Adam Woodworth, Chief Executive Officer, Wing 
                              Aviation LLC
                              Introduction
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, Subcommittee Chairman 
Graves, and Subcommittee Ranking Member Cohen, thank you for inviting 
me to offer my perspective on implementation of the landmark FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024. I offer my testimony as Chief Executive 
Officer of Wing, a logistics company focused on package delivery by 
drone of retail goods, food items, and medical samples and supplies.
    Across the industry, commercial drone operators like Wing 
prioritize safe integration of drones into the airspace while providing 
our partners, customers, and communities with safe, efficient and 
sustainable service. My testimony will offer a broad overview of where 
we have been, where we are going, and what you can do now to help 
support the continued growth of the American drone industry. We 
appreciate the proactive and bipartisan approach members of this 
committee have taken to address these important issues.
    A year and a half ago, I testified about the need for the Federal 
Aviation Administration (FAA) to take a predictable and pragmatic 
approach to drone integration and enable a regulatory framework that 
would allow us to fly by rule rather than by exception. Members of this 
committee recognized that American progress in drone policy had stalled 
and they acted in bipartisan fashion to provide oversight and craft 
sensible policy solutions to advance safe drone integration. I am 
thankful to Congress--and this Committee's leadership in particular--
for an FAA Reauthorization Act which includes numerous provisions that 
addressed the challenges I discussed. Your efforts worked, and we are 
now making real progress again in the United States.
                          Progress Since 2023
    To the FAA's credit, they began working to make progress to advance 
the United States' drone industry in response to your oversight. For 
example, the FAA has streamlined the waiver process and has created a 
Criteria for Making Determinations (CMD) process. These improvements 
have enabled the agency to approve true beyond visual line of sight 
(BVLOS) operations utilizing our detect and avoid system without the 
need for visual observers, as well as more efficiently accept aircraft 
and aircraft software changes. This allows us to field the best version 
of our service, rolling out timely updates to aircraft hardware and 
software that improve accessibility and capabilities to our customers.
    In North Texas, Wing and industry partners have initiated a UAS 
Traffic Management (UTM) governance structure overseen by the FAA that 
provides a framework to introduce strategic coordination among 
professional BVLOS operators that is repeatable nationwide and has 
drawn significant interest from regulators around the world as a 
commonsense, lightweight approach to airspace integration. All this 
progress--and the value it has shown our partners and customers--has 
enabled Wing to continue to grow our services throughout the past year.
    We have expanded Wing's delivery service across the Dallas-Fort 
Worth (DFW) metropolitan area and currently operate from 16 partner 
locations, covering a population of more than 2 million people. We are 
operating with the country's largest employer, Walmart, and the 
country's largest food aggregator, DoorDash, every day--delivering tens 
of thousands of orders this year.
    We have seen how drone delivery can improve the experience of 
customers day to day. And we have also seen the impact drone delivery 
can have when it matters most, when we conducted disaster assistance in 
North Carolina in partnership with Walmart after Hurricane Helene.
    This progress has carried over outside the United States as well. 
Due in part to the demonstrated safety and readiness of our technology, 
we are now flying blood samples between the rooftops of two hospitals 
in the heart of London. And in Australia, we have opened service in 
Melbourne, furthering our progress in mature markets where regulation 
allows for scaled operations.
    We have seen rapid progress across the industry over the last 18 
months in the United States. During our own 2024 expansion, we have 
continued to see strong support from the communities we operate in and 
strong customer demand:
      We have averaged a 75 and above Net Promoter Score (NPS) 
in the DFW metro area compared with parcel delivery services receiving 
an average NPS of 21 per a recent Qualtrics XM Institute survey; \1\
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Industry, 2021, https://www.qualtrics.com/m/www.xminstitute.com/wp-
content/uploads/2021/03/XMInstitute_
DataSnapshot_EconomicsOfNPS2020_ParcelDeliveryServices-1.pdf. For 
reference, a NPS above 20 is considered ``favorable'', and any NPS over 
50 is considered ``excellent'' and represents a very high degree of 
consumer satisfaction.
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      In 2024 alone, we conducted over 40 community events in 
DFW, as well as nine Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) 
outreach events, and met with over 20 city councils and planning and 
zoning commissions.
      Most importantly we engaged with thousands of residents 
and feedback collected at local events and Walmart stores reflected an 
over 95 percent positive sentiment.

    While doing this we've invested in continuing to build 
relationships with the communities we operate in and around. We have 
participated in general aviation's largest events, including EAA 
AirVenture and SUN `n FUN airshows. Allowing aviators and the public to 
see what drone delivery actually looks like.
    The progress of the last year has given us the confidence to invest 
more significantly in the US market. To maintain this momentum we have 
announced our intention to further expand into additional states, 
starting with North Carolina and then further into Florida.
                              Path Forward
    The progress over the last year and a half has been transformative 
and I want to ask for this committee's and Congress' continued support 
and oversight as we move towards implementing the FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024 over the coming year. We must ensure that the United States 
does not fall behind other competing countries in this new era of 
aviation. The good news is the Act provides the right blueprint for 
these reforms, and I want to draw your attention to six specific issues 
it addresses where Congress' oversight is critical:
      First, the FAA must publish a notice of proposed 
rulemaking establishing a framework for BVLOS operations in the United 
States this year. While we are encouraged the FAA has sent the proposed 
BVLOS rule to the White House, it is critical to complete the 
interagency process and publish the proposed rulemaking so that 
stakeholders can provide public comments on the draft rule and see how 
the FAA has interpreted the bipartisan direction of this committee and 
Congress;

      Second, the FAA must work to streamline the National 
Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) process. We can do this without 
compromising existing environmental standards.
      +  While the FAA is making strides here, the progress is too 
slow. We must see a more programmatic and nationwide approach to NEPA 
as called for in the Act.
      +  This is the longest lead item today when Wing wants to expand 
our service to a new area and often delays our service availability.

      Third, we must consider pragmatic approaches to hazardous 
materials. The FAA and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety 
Administration must follow the direction of this committee and provide 
a more sensible and pragmatic approach for small drones to carry 
everyday items like thermometers, watch batteries, and certain ``over 
the counter'' medicines and goods such as hand sanitizer.
      +  The current aviation regulatory requirements are designed for 
large airplanes with people on board carrying large quantities of 
dangerous goods. We must address this burdensome regulation and enable 
a more sensible framework for uncrewed aircraft carrying small 
quantities of everyday items.

      Fourth, the FAA should build on progress on waivers 
designed to streamline and improve rulemaking processes. The FAA should 
implement Section 927 of the Act to continue to improve progress on 
waivers while we wait on the beyond visual line of sight rulemaking to 
be adjudicated in the rulemaking process. By implementing Section 927, 
applicants can have their ideas evaluated on the merits by the agency 
in a more streamlined fashion, helping the pace of acceptance keep up 
with the pace of demand and technological safety improvements.

      Fifth, the FAA should designate Network Remote ID as a 
true alternative means of compliance for the Remote Identification 
Rule. As the FAA furthers its rulemaking for BVLOS operations, it 
should adopt an alternative means of compliance--consistent with the 
ASTM F3411 standards--following the direction provided in Section 907 
of the Act. This has been utilized in several FAA demonstrations and is 
being implemented in markets beyond the United States.

      Sixth, the FAA must develop additional expertise on 
automation. The FAA should consult with industry on Section 924 of the 
Act, which calls for the FAA to develop expertise on automation. 
Specifically, the FAA should identify FAA processes and regulations 
that need to change to accommodate the increasingly automated role of a 
remote operator of an unmanned aircraft system.

    All of these steps are critical to ensuring the Act's 
implementation moves the industry forward and maintains and builds upon 
the progress we have made in recent years. Now is the time to keep that 
momentum going strong. Delays in implementing these proposals have a 
negative impact on American consumers and businesses.
                                Closing
    To its credit and thanks to your work, the FAA has made significant 
strides forward over the past year and a half by improving and 
streamlining its interim approval processes. This has enabled the 
industry's continuing expansion towards nationwide scaled operations, 
but your oversight is critical to ensure that the FAA now cements these 
recent gains. The good news is the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 
provides the blueprint for all of this. Now we must move collectively 
and expeditiously to implement the vision that this committee and 
Congress articulated so that consumers and businesses can benefit from 
what this aviation sector has to offer.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Woodworth. You said 
you are expanding to Louisiana? Is that what I heard? Thank 
you.
    Next, we are going to go to Mr. Bunce. Thank you for being 
back in the committee. I know your punchcard is almost full in 
terms of the number of times you have been here. I also know 
that you are moving toward the next phase in life, and I do 
want to thank you for your distinguished service, of course, in 
the United States Air Force when I met you, gosh, probably 25 
years ago, and for your great stakeholder representation over 
the years. You have been a good ally to us in helping us 
identify issues and solutions, and I want to thank you for 
being back. I recognize you for 5 minutes.

  TESTIMONY OF PETER J. BUNCE, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
   OFFICER, GENERAL AVIATION MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION (GAMA)

    Mr. Bunce. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and during those 25 
years that you and I have known each other, I just have been so 
impressed with the way you approach policy and your service to 
the Nation, and I can't thank you enough. And the proof is 
really in the pudding with what you all did together, you 
working with Mr. Cohen and Mr. Larsen and Sam Graves all 
working together and this whole committee. Those of us that 
make our living in this profession, you made us proud that you 
could get together when we were all in this room at the very 
beginning of the Congress and they said the drama is going to 
be down the hall. We are going to get our work done here, and 
you did it.
    And it wasn't just the bill itself. It was the hearing 
process that led up to it, because the FAA started listening. 
One of our big issues that we absolutely need to live on into 
the new administration is rulemaking. Rulemaking was broken. 
The FAA would use this ex parte as a reason not to even talk to 
foreign authorities as they are going through the long 
rulemaking process. Things sat on the shelf for years and 
years.
    And what did the FAA do? They started listening to you and 
they started promulgating rules and getting the process going. 
It is not perfect yet. It isn't moving fast enough, but it is 
going forward, and that is why we cannot go back to that two-
for-one for aviation. That idea that we could get rid of two 
rules or more for every one we promulgate works for other 
agencies, and I am all for less Government regulation, but in 
aviation, we can't do anything without a regulation. They are 
enabling, and that goes to policy and guidance, so, we really 
look to you to be able to help us make sure we emphasize to the 
new administration that that is very important.
    Successes that have happened because of the pressure that 
you have put on the FAA, the release of the SFAR, which 
basically is the operational rules that allow advanced air 
mobility aircraft to enter into the system now is published, 
which now once the aircraft is certified, hopefully next year, 
they will start entering service.
    And in companion to that is the Advanced Air Mobility 
Coordination and Leadership Act that you, Chairman Graves, 
along with Member Davids--when you published that, it got an 
all-of-Government approach to look for advanced air mobility. 
We were just briefed by DOT last week they are getting ready to 
release the final report, but we need the new administration to 
embrace it, because that is the way the United States will lead 
in this transformation of technology. And so, we hope that you 
will all emphasize to the new administration the importance of 
moving that forward.
    As Ranking Member Larsen mentioned, what we've done with 
workforce is critically important, and we hope the 
appropriators follow through in allowing the manufacturing 
workforce to benefit from the grants. Our companies have great 
programs to be able to tap in to high schools, to be able to 
get them into the factories and encourage them, whether they 
are going to tech school or whether they are going to college 
to be able to take advantage of scholarship programs and that, 
but this seed money will help those institutions be able to 
give us our seed corn to be able to grow our workforce.
    And that applies to the FAA as well. Right now, the FAA 
workforce, 40 percent have under 4 years of experience. And so, 
they are having success recruiting out of colleges to be able 
to build their workforce. But they are still very green, and we 
all know with what has happened in our focus on production 
quality, and things like that that happen in a factory, we need 
very qualified people to work at the FAA. And these workforce 
grants will help them to recruit the workforce that we need in 
the industry to be able to do our jobs.
    We also want to be able to leverage this new technology 
that is out there, so, in the bill, you focus on mobile 
clearances. It becomes very important that we use digital 
communications to give communications to launch clearances, 
especially for advanced air mobility and aircraft. And also to 
be able to go in and finish the rulemaking not only on beyond 
visual line of sight but what we call MOSAIC, which is 
basically a new way to streamline the certification of light 
aircraft that are out there, to be able to make them cheaper 
and more affordable for people to get into aviation and then 
grow in their experience, to be able to be our great airline 
skilled workforce.
    The investment facilities and equipment, Mr. Larsen 
mentioned it, when you put the emphasis on having awareness of 
what is happening on runways and taxiways and everything, that 
becomes very important, and the FAA followed through with that 
to be able to deploy more cost-effective systems that use this 
ADS-B technology that we all pioneered several years ago to be 
able to help with runway awareness.
    So, this bill has done tremendous amount of good for this 
Nation, and we just need to keep the initiative going. I look 
forward to your questions.
    [Mr. Bunce's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Peter J. Bunce, President and Chief Executive 
       Officer, General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA)
    On behalf of the General Aviation Manufacturers Association, thank 
you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of our membership on the 
implementation of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63). As the 118th Congress 
concludes its work and we look toward the holiday season, our 
membership is grateful and appreciative of the leadership, 
determination, and bipartisan effort that culminated in passage of the 
law in May.
    We want to thank the leadership of the Subcommittee on Aviation, 
Chairman Garret Graves and Ranking Member Steve Cohen, the full 
Transportation and Infrastructure Committee (T&I) leadership, Chairman 
Sam Graves and Ranking Member Rick Larsen, as well as all the members 
of this Committee for crafting this significant piece of bipartisan 
legislation. I want to express a special note of thanks and 
appreciation to Chairman Garret Graves. He is held in high regard by 
the GAMA staff and membership, and we look forward to continuing to 
work with him as he leaves Congress and looks to take on his next great 
chapter.
    The 2024 FAA Reauthorization is a tremendous accomplishment that 
should be lauded for its comprehensive nature and broad scope of issues 
it tackles. It should have a lasting impact given the strong foundation 
of consensus and bipartisan support it is built upon. If properly 
implemented, it will have a meaningful and positive influence on the 
aviation sector and general aviation community.
    For GAMA, the legislation contains the key priorities that our 
membership advocated for including policies that advance safety, jobs, 
innovation, and global competitiveness in aviation. The challenge now 
is to ensure that FAA prioritizes the timely implementation of the law 
and both Congress and the Administration stay the course and meet the 
funding and other requirements of this measure.
    In the U.S., general aviation supports $247 billion in total 
economic output annually and 1.2 million total jobs, with GAMA 
companies having facilities in 49 states. GAMA members include more 
than 140 of the world's leading manufacturers of general aviation 
airplanes, rotorcraft and powered-lift aircraft and their engines, 
avionics, components, and related technologies. GAMA members are also 
providers of maintenance and repair services, fixed-based operations, 
pilot and maintenance training, and aircraft management companies. 
Additionally, GAMA represents companies in the emerging sector of 
advanced air mobility (AAM), which includes the development of electric 
and hybrid propelled vertical take-off and landing aircraft and 
autonomous systems for civil purposes. Industry activity takes place at 
more than 5,000 public-use airports, connecting small and medium-sized 
communities to air service across the U.S. and supporting businesses, 
jobs and many diverse operations ranging from agriculture to law 
enforcement, fire, medical and other emergency rescue services.
                       At Altitude with Tailwinds
    Since the law's enactment, the FAA has met several milestones and 
should be commended for their work. Some examples include the recent 
publication of the Special Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR) for 
operating and licensing rules for powered-lift aircraft. This was an 
important step forward for the AAM sector and serves as a strong basis 
for bringing this innovation to the marketplace. Work remains to shape 
the permanent AAM regulatory and infrastructure framework, but a strong 
foundation to build on is in place thanks to the legislation.
    The FAA also is moving forward on the cybersecurity provisions 
outlined in the bill by releasing a notice of proposed rulemaking for 
initial and continued airworthiness for transport category airplanes, 
engines, and propellers. Additionally, as directed by the bill, FAA and 
TSA have increased their collaboration on cybersecurity measures while 
respecting the lines of jurisdiction of the respective agencies with 
FAA taking the leadership role on aircraft, aircraft systems, and air 
traffic. This approach aligns with National Security Memorandum 22 on 
Critical Infrastructure and the direction in the reauthorization.
                       Awaiting Takeoff Clearance
    A central tenet of GAMA's reauthorization requests was to address 
challenges in the FAA's rulemaking and regulatory processes. The 
cybersecurity rule mentioned earlier has finally advanced thanks to 
continued attention from Congress. However, this rulemaking also 
underscores the problems in the rulemaking process given the FAA 
aviation rulemaking advisory committee submitted recommendations in 
2016 which were promulgated and adopted by the European Union Aviation 
Safety Agency (EASA) in 2020. We will likely not see the FAA final rule 
until 2025.
    As this Committee realized, a contributing factor in preventing 
safety and innovation from moving forward and benefiting the aviation 
system has been significant delays in the FAA's promulgation of 
rulemaking, policies, and guidance which has caused a large backlog of 
technical standards, policy memos, orders, and advisory circulars 
necessary for implementation. This delays the development of new 
products and disadvantages U.S. manufacturers in the international 
marketplace. Civil aviation is unique given that even minor changes 
that enhance safety are prohibited in the absence of government 
approved standards and guidance. In aviation, the biggest challenge to 
enabling efficiency is not to stop rulemaking and other regulatory 
materials related to the promulgation of safety and technical 
standards: instead, it is to find ways to move them forward in a 
timely, transparent, and accountable manner to facilitate advances in 
new technology and enhance U.S. aviation safety, leadership, and 
competitiveness.
    One key element for addressing these obstacles was included in FAA 
Reauthorization: the establishment of the new Assistant Administrator 
for Rulemaking and Regulatory Improvement office. This office, 
reporting to the FAA Administrator and part of the management team, is 
designed to address key rulemaking challenges, improve coordination, 
and yield support for safety, innovation, and international leadership. 
Our understanding is the FAA is working internally to stand up this 
office and implement this important position, however, reprogramming of 
existing funds or specific requests for new funds may be required to 
fulfill this objective.
    Our membership strongly supports the creation and integration of 
this office into the FAA organization, in an expeditious manner as well 
as establishing clear roles, responsibilities, and accountability. An 
effective rulemaking process, which includes promulgation of policies 
and guidance, is critical to ending FAA's own version of Groundhog Day 
on regulatory materials where in the absence of final rulemakings, they 
must promulgate the same special conditions and exemptions again and 
again on project after project.
    An example of the importance of an effective and efficient 
rulemaking process is the FAA's Modernization of Special Airworthiness 
Certification (MOSAIC). The general aviation community is eagerly 
awaiting the final rule which was directed by Congress for 
implementation within two years but has been contemplated for much 
longer. This enabling rule will incentivize manufacturers to produce a 
broader scope of light-sport aircraft that can more efficiently 
incorporate safety enhancements and more versatility by expanding the 
existing and proven use of industry consensus standards. These changes 
will benefit many segments of our community, including manufacturers, 
pilots, aircraft owners, and the flight training community. We 
understand the FAA is on track to publish the MOSAIC rule, and we 
recognize the important role Congress has played in moving this 
forward. We encourage policymakers to continue to support the 
development and implementation of this important rule.
    Additional work is also ahead for the FAA is to advance a 
rulemaking to normalize unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) beyond the 
visual line of sight (BVLOS). GAMA is supportive of the safe 
integration of BVLOS operation as noted in comments to the docket. 
Integrating UAS operation into the National Airspace System (NAS) 
through this BVLOS rulemaking over the next few years in addition to 
follow-on rulemaking activities to address larger aircraft and 
operations at higher altitudes will require that the FAA has an 
efficient and effective rulemaking process. The FAA should also have a 
way to evaluate and rapidly incorporate detect and avoid technology 
into UAS flight control logic to manage increasing demands from 
stakeholders across the aviation industry.
    As an association that is also fortunate to represent companies 
that are headquartered all over the world, GAMA has also been a 
consistent advocate for safety cooperation and harmonization between 
bilateral partners to support the flow of commerce into the global 
marketplace. The FAA must ensure that aviation safety agreements, 
especially with leading aircraft states of design, deliver on their 
promise to enhance regulatory effectiveness and efficiency and support 
product delivery into the domestic and international marketplace. This 
remains critical as aviation products and safety enhancing technologies 
must be type certificated by the FAA to enter the domestic marketplace 
and validated with foreign authorities before being accepted into 
global markets. U.S. aviation has benefited from a long-standing system 
that has facilitated the flow of aviation products based on aviation 
safety agreements rather than economic considerations. Strengthening 
that system should be a continuing focus of FAA and other aviation 
authorities. Recent decisions by FAA and other aviation authorities to 
establish performance metrics and make other improvements in the system 
are encouraging. We thank the Committee for helping to drive that 
progress.
                    In Chocks Awaiting Engine Start
    There are also several important areas of interest where we are not 
yet seeing tangible progress, despite direction in the FAA 
Reauthorization to do so. GAMA advocated for many provisions that are 
critical to safety and technical expertise of the government and 
industry workforce, as well as efforts to better leverage federal 
investments and technologies to move the aviation sector forward.
    For example, GAMA has consistently been a proponent of the FAA 
Aviation Workforce Development Program and strongly supports the FAA 
Reauthorization, which added an aviation manufacturing component to 
complement the existing pilot and maintenance programs. The industry 
faces a critical workforce shortage which must be addressed to maintain 
industry leadership. Prioritizing this investment will support the 
education and recruitment of aviation manufacturing workers and 
aerospace engineers as well as enhancing industry training and 
technical competence the aviation industry demands. While we celebrate 
the addition of manufacturing to this program, the reality is that 
appropriations funding is needed to move forward.
    Continued training for FAA personnel and knowledge-sharing 
opportunities with industry are also crucial to bolstering the 
technical expertise of the FAA and enhancing their oversight 
capabilities. The FAA's technical competencies and resources correlate 
directly with the industry's ability to bring new products and safety 
enhancements to the marketplace. Continued strong funding is needed for 
FAA's aviation certification and safety activities and we urge the 
Congress and Administration to provide these resources and facilitate 
critical hiring and training.
    We also applaud the reauthorization's focus and scrutiny of the 
Department of Transportation's (DOT) and FAA's telework policy. To 
properly conduct the agency's mission, the safety workforce should be 
physically located where and when they can effectively collaborate in-
person and develop their professional and technical expertise through 
on-the-job knowledge transfer and to enable timely decision making for 
safety certification and conducting oversight activities. We look 
forward to the agency moving to address this directive.
    The FAA Reauthorization also recognizes the importance of planning 
ahead to ensure that FAA is prepared to support the U.S. aviation 
activities of tomorrow. The FAA needs to work with industry to launch 
the Future State of Type Certification Process study mandated in the 
law. This study will propose ways to improve the safety, effectiveness, 
and efficiency of the certification process by better leveraging the 
use of digitization, modeling techniques, and software systems and 
developing a more robust risk-based approach for compliance and 
oversight activities. Additionally, the study will look at how to 
introduce safety improvements and corrective actions into the 
certification process and evaluate best practices and tools used by 
other certification authorities outside the U.S. This work has the 
potential to illustrate how technology and ingenuity can better serve 
the FAA's critical safety role in a more effective manner. This study 
will also complement other reauthorization provisions regarding 
utilization of advanced tools and modernization of transport airplanes 
and propulsion certification.
    The pro-technology and innovation basis of the FAA Reauthorization 
is underscored by the provision that creates a pilot program to deliver 
clearances via mobile devices (e.g. tablets) through Internet Protocol. 
Previous FAA funded trials have illustrated this technology delivers 
functionality and can be enabled safely and securely while 
simultaneously delivering fuel savings and operational efficiencies. 
The FAA needs to ramp up this pilot program, which builds upon prior 
agency research efforts, and will have great benefit for general 
aviation pilots and controllers as well as the overall system by making 
operations at key airports more predictable.
                    Managing Ground and Air Traffic
    The reality is for our membership and the broader aviation sector 
to flourish we must also have a strong and sound U.S. air traffic 
system. This is a vital public good, supporting national security, 
small communities, and businesses across the country. A forward-looking 
vision for the FAA's management of the air traffic control system is 
essential. This is critical as FAA must keep pace with an evolving 
industry with current users and new entrants placing new and changing 
demands on the system. The FAA Reauthorization, if properly 
implemented, provides such a road map for increasing the efficiency of 
the system, enhancing the air traffic workforce, evaluating system 
capital investment needs and examining the consolidation or 
reorganizing of facilities and equipment.
    The FAA Reauthorization required the creation of a program to 
further system design and operational approvals for remote towers, 
prioritizing airports without permanent towers and small and rural 
communities to expand air traffic services. We hope the Committee will 
continue its focus on this program.
    As part of these continuing modernization efforts, GAMA strongly 
believes that the Administration and Congress should consider making 
changes to the administration of the Airport & Airway Trust Fund (AATF) 
that will give the FAA the ability to more effectively utilize the AATF 
balance, collected from aviation users, for facility upgrades and 
technology modernization. This initiative has broad stakeholder 
support, which is notable given past efforts to improve the air traffic 
system have not achieved such consensus and, therefore, hindered the 
ability to address these investments in a direct and constructive 
fashion.
                       Additional Flight Benefits
    Collaboration has also been prevalent between government and 
industry in other areas. For example, recommendations of the federal 
interagency working group established by the bipartisan AAM 
Coordination and Leadership Act (P.L. 117-203) are likely forthcoming 
and represent a whole-of-government approach to integration and 
adoption of AAM. Our membership strongly supports this effort and hopes 
Congress will keep the Administration focused on the timely delivery of 
this report and its recommendations.
    In a similar fashion, we also encourage consideration of the 
recommendations of the congressionally created Aerospace Supply Chain 
Resiliency Task Force to support supply chain stability and industry 
growth and competitiveness. This remains a challenge for our 
membership, and commerce, and is critical to address for the health and 
vitality of the international aviation marketplace.
                         Important Vector Check
    On behalf of the membership of the GAMA, thank you for the role 
this committee and its leadership played in facilitating consideration 
and passage of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024. The steady hand and 
strong leadership of all involved to achieve this important milestone 
is to be commended and is deeply meaningful to the aviation sector and 
broader U.S. economy and commerce.
    As we move forward, hearings and congressional oversight will 
continue to serve an important purpose--to highlight where there is 
success, where work remains, where focus needs to be placed, and where 
there are unanticipated challenges. It also serves as a compelling 
reminder to stay focused on implementation of this law especially 
during this time of transition. For this reason, thank you for the 
opportunity to provide a vector check for the FAA, industry, 
policymakers, and those who benefit from the robust aviation sector the 
U.S. is fortunate to have and must maintain. The fruits of your FAA 
Reauthorization labor have already been successful but there is work 
ahead to ensure that your vision can be more fully achieved, and the 
law's important direction becomes reality.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Bunce. I appreciate 
it
    Next, we are going to go to Mr. Regan. You are now 
recognized for 5 minutes.

   TESTIMONY OF GREG REGAN, PRESIDENT, TRANSPORTATION TRADES 
                   DEPARTMENT, AFL-CIO (TTD)

    Mr. Regan. Thank you, Chairman Graves, Ranking Member 
Cohen, and other members of the committee. On behalf of the 
Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO, and our 37 
affiliated unions, I want to thank you all for this opportunity 
to testify on this important legislation.
    As the largest transportation labor federation in the 
country representing hundreds of thousands of aviation workers, 
we are confident that proper implementation of this bipartisan 
bill will strengthen aviation safety standards, sustainably 
grow our skilled workforce, and enhance the quality of service 
that travelers deserve.
    A number of significant aviation labor parties are codified 
in this bill, including protections for airline employees 
against assaults, efforts to close existing safety gaps, and 
provisions to address the shortage of air traffic controllers. 
Now these provisions must be implemented quickly and 
accurately. Airline workers, including flight attendants, gate 
agents, pilots, and other personnel, face an alarming increase 
in workplace assaults and have reported unprecedented levels of 
verbal abuse, threats, physical violence since the pandemic.
    It is encouraging to see Congress take meaningful steps to 
address this situation through a number of provisions in the 
2024 FAA reauthorization. A key measure includes setting 
minimum standards for self-defense training for front-line 
workers empowering them to protect themselves.
    From the ramp to the radar room, aviation professionals 
ensure the safety and reliability of American air travel 
through their dedication, training, and expertise. This bill 
specifies several ways in which working conditions can and 
should be improved, including addressing airport ramp worker 
safety concerns, initiating studies in cabin air safety and 
radiation exposure, and promulgating lactation standards for 
pilots and flight attendants.
    This legislation also addresses a critical safety gap on 
the global scale. It mandates essential safety improvements for 
global aircraft maintenance by requiring annual unannounced 
inspections at foreign repair stations and establishing minimum 
qualifications for mechanics working on U.S. aircraft.
    While the 2024 reauthorization includes many important 
safety actions, there are long overdue safety measures like 
this one from previous reauthorizations. One of the most 
troubling remaining loopholes in the regulation of aircraft 
maintenance is the disparity between drug and alcohol testing 
for workers at domestic maintenance facilities, and for those 
at foreign facilities who are exempt from this requirement.
    The 2012 reauthorization directed the FAA to issue a 
proposed rule requiring all repair station employees 
responsible for safety-sensitive maintenance on U.S. aircraft 
to be subject to an alcohol and controlled substance testing 
program within 1 year. The FAA did not issue the proposed rule 
until last year. That is a solid 13 years later. And has yet to 
be finalized. It is unacceptable that it has taken over a 
decade for the FAA to implement a congressionally mandated 
safety measure.
    In the 2018 reauthorization, Congress passed a statute 
requiring the FAA to issue a rule that all new aircraft for 
delivery to passenger air carriers have installed physical 
secondary barriers within 1 year.
    Five years later, in June of 2023, the FAA finally issued a 
long-awaited final rule to mandate the installation of 
secondary barriers in all newly manufactured aircraft within 2 
years. I urge you all to exercise your oversight authority to 
ensure the FAA takes a swifter approach to implementing the 
2024 reauthorization than they did in some of the previous 
versions.
    In addition to safety, staffing shortages have also been a 
major concern for some of our Nation's aviation workforce. Air 
traffic controllers keep our skies safe as they efficiently 
move thousands of aircraft every day throughout the National 
Airspace System. Yet, a decade of insufficient hiring has 
created a pressing staffing crisis among certified professional 
controllers leaving our controller workforce severely strained.
    To address this problem, this law directs the FAA to set a 
stronger minimum hiring target for new controllers and 
similarly, the legislation directs the FAA to conduct a 
comprehensive review and as necessary, revise the FAA staffing 
model for aviation safety inspectors.
    Airport service workers from baggage handlers to wheelchair 
agents to cabin cleaners form the backbone of daily aviation 
operations. Yet their vital contributions remain undervalued 
and underprotected. This legislation requires the GAO to 
complete a comprehensive review of the domestic airport service 
workforce, reinforcing the importance of treating all segments 
of the aviation workforce as integral to the industry's 
success.
    From its very outset, the history of aviation has been 
written in hard-earned lessons shaped by a sober in reality. It 
can take a tragedy to reveal an unknown engineering flaw or 
systemic vulnerability in established protocols. But it is also 
a tragedy when solutions to safety challenges, like mandating 
flight deck barriers, or greater foreign repair station 
oversight, languish for decades after Congress requires them.
    When a regulatory directive mandating FAA action within 12 
to 18 months stretches to 12 to 18 years on an implementation 
timeline, it should be equally unacceptable.
    For ramp workers facing jet blast hazards, for the airline 
crew managing cabin air quality concerns, and for every 
aviation safety professional who ensures our system runs 
smoothly and safely, implementation of this bill must happen 
now.
    We were proud to endorse this bill. We are proud to be in 
an industry where we can develop these bipartisan solutions and 
move our industry collectively better for workers and for 
participants, and I look forward to seeing the fruits of your 
labor when this bill is finally implemented. Thank you.
    [Mr. Regan's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades 
                       Department, AFL-CIO (TTD)
    On behalf of the Transportation Trades Department, AFL-CIO (TTD), 
and our 37 affiliated unions representing hundreds of thousands of 
aviation professionals, I thank Chairman Graves and Ranking Member 
Cohen for inviting me to testify on the implementation of the Federal 
Aviation Administration (FAA) Reauthorization Act of 2024.
    As the largest transportation labor federation in the country, 
representing hundreds of thousands of aviation workers, we are invested 
in ensuring a robust, modern, and successful FAA. We are confident that 
proper implementation of the bipartisan 2024 FAA reauthorization 
legislation will strengthen aviation safety standards, sustainably grow 
our skilled workforce, and enhance the quality of service that 
travelers deserve.
    The aviation workers represented by TTD-affiliated unions maintain 
the highest safety standards in global aviation through their 
dedication and expertise. Swift and precise implementation of this 
legislation will strengthen their ability to meet evolving challenges 
by providing essential tools, resources, and protections that directly 
support their safety-critical work. These members have witnessed 
firsthand how underinvestment in critical infrastructure, inadequate 
FAA staffing levels, and outdated safety protocols directly compromise 
both worker and public safety. They understand firsthand the risks 
these issues pose to the safety and efficiency of the aviation system. 
Expeditious implementation of this legislation will not only safeguard 
the well-being of aviation workers but also ensure that the United 
States continues to set the global standard for aviation safety and 
reliability. Empowering these dedicated professionals is essential to 
maintaining public trust and advancing the future of air travel.
    This FAA bill enhances safety standards, works to ensure 
sustainable growth of the federal aviation workforce, facilitates 
improvements to infrastructure and service, rejects any policy changes 
to pilot training, qualification and retirement age, and ensures the 
current, correctly tailored balance regarding the Airline Deregulation 
Act's focus on consumer-facing matters. We were proud to work closely 
with Congress on a pro-worker, pro-safety bill that will positively 
impact the aviation industry for decades to come. TTD and our affiliate 
unions were glad to see a number of critical priorities codified in 
this legislation, including provisions to address the shortage of air 
traffic controllers, protections for airline employees against 
assaults, and efforts to close existing safety gaps. Now, it is 
critical that the provisions enumerated below are implemented quickly 
and accurately.
    Delaying implementation of these safety-critical provisions creates 
dangerous regulatory gaps that directly impact frontline workers while 
increasing the risk of preventable accidents and disruptions. This 
inaction puts both safety and economic stability at risk, threatening 
the foundation of an industry that is essential to our national 
transportation network and economic prosperity.
                         Global Aviation Issues
    One of the most glaring and troubling loopholes in the regulation 
of aircraft maintenance is that workers at domestic facilities must 
undergo extensive drug and alcohol testing while foreign mechanics 
working on U.S. aircraft are exempt from this requirement. To address 
this core safety issue, the 2012 FAA Reauthorization bill directed the 
FAA, within one year, to issue a proposed rule requiring all repair 
station employees responsible for safety-sensitive maintenance on U.S. 
aircraft to be subject to an alcohol and controlled substance testing 
program. While the FAA issued an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking 
(ANPRM) on drug and alcohol testing in 2014, no further action occurred 
until last year, a decade later. While the required rule is expected to 
be finalized by the end of this year, decade-long delays in 
implementing congressionally-mandated safety measures represent an 
unacceptable risk to aviation safety and workers' well-being.
    Similarly, this legislation mandates critical safety improvements 
for global aircraft maintenance, requiring annual unannounced 
inspections at foreign repair stations and establishing minimum 
qualifications for mechanics working on United States-registered 
aircraft. These standards address longstanding disparities between 
domestic and foreign maintenance requirements and ensure the safety of 
our aircraft, regardless of where the maintenance occurs. Requiring 
annual unannounced inspections of foreign repair stations helps ensure 
these facilities adhere to the same rigorous safety standards as 
domestic repair stations, preventing lapses in oversight. Establishing 
minimum qualifications for mechanics and other workers ensures that 
only highly trained professionals handle critical maintenance tasks, 
safeguarding the integrity of U.S. aviation operations.
    The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act imposes critical limits on foreign 
interchange agreements to ensure competitive fairness in the U.S. 
airline industry. Currently, foreign interchanges can be of indefinite 
duration according to the FAA. In the past, the duration of interchange 
agreements would last a few days, but now can last for a year or more. 
As a result for example, a Canadian-registered carrier is taking 
advantage of the absence of hard limits for interchange agreements. The 
FAA must remedy this by promulgating a rule establishing limitations on 
interchange agreements, minimum breaks between renewals, and a limit 
for no more than one agreement between airlines.
                           Assault Prevention
    Airline workers, including flight attendants, gate agents and other 
personnel, face an alarming increase in workplace assaults and have 
reported unprecedented levels of verbal abuse, threats, and physical 
violence since the COVID-19 pandemic. TTD and our affiliate unions were 
encouraged to see Congress take meaningful steps to address this 
situation through a number of provisions included in the 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization Act.
    Key measures aimed at mitigating this unacceptable reality include 
setting minimum standards for self-defense training for flight 
attendants and pilots, empowering them to protect themselves and de-
escalate conflicts in high-stress situations. Additionally, the 
requirement for passenger-carrying air carriers to submit Employee 
Assault Prevention and Response Plans to the FAA will ensure that 
airlines implement proactive and comprehensive strategies to address 
and mitigate these incidents. Importantly, the legislation clarifies 
that federal protections against interference with security personnel 
extend to airline employees performing critical ground functions such 
as ticketing, check-in, baggage claim, and boarding.
    These provisions mark a significant step forward in safeguarding 
aviation workers, reinforcing their vital role in the aviation system, 
while also ensuring a safer environment for both employees and 
passengers.
                                Staffing
    Air traffic controllers keep our skies safe as they efficiently 
move thousands of aircraft every day throughout the National Airspace 
System (NAS). Their professional standards are rigorous: new hires 
undergo extensive training for at least 18 to 36 months depending on 
their facility assignment. Controllers worked throughout the COVID-19 
pandemic, and without their ongoing efforts, air travel could not have 
rebounded as quickly as we have seen in recent months.
    A decade of insufficient hiring has created a critical staffing 
crisis among certified professional controllers (CPCs), leaving our air 
traffic control workforce severely strained. Today's workforce of CPCs 
has declined by 1,000 positions compared to 10 years ago, forcing many 
controllers to work six-day, 10-hour weeks just to keep our airspace 
safe. There are 1,000 fewer CPCs today than 10 years ago, and over 10 
percent of the CPC workforce is eligible to retire. This has led to 
staffing shortages at certain facilities and some controllers working 
six days per week.
    Importantly, this legislation directs the FAA to set as the minimum 
hiring target for new air traffic controllers for each of fiscal years 
2024 through 2028 the maximum number of individuals trained at the FAA 
Air Traffic Control Academy. The bill also requires the FAA to revise 
its staffing standards to adopt the best staffing model identified by 
the Transportation Research Board (TRB) and allows the FAA to implement 
any necessary TRB recommendations. Similarly, the bill directs the FAA 
to conduct a comprehensive review and, as necessary, revise the FAA's 
staffing model for aviation safety inspectors. The FAA is further 
authorized to address staffing challenges revealed by this analysis.
    In addition to air traffic controllers, airport service workers are 
another essential component of the aviation system. Airport service 
workers, from baggage handlers to wheelchair agents to cabin cleaners, 
form the backbone of daily aviation operations, yet their critical 
contributions remain undervalued and under-protected. This bill 
requires the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to complete a 
comprehensive review of the domestic airport service workforce and 
examine the role and importance of this workforce to the aviation 
economy. Such a review can provide valuable insights into the working 
conditions, wages, training, and career opportunities of airport 
service workers, many of whom operate in demanding environments with 
minimal job security. Highlighting their contributions and needs can 
pave the way for improved labor standards, fair compensation, and 
better working conditions. Moreover, it reinforces the importance of 
treating all segments of the aviation workforce as integral to the 
industry's success, ensuring these workers are no longer invisible but 
recognized and valued for their essential contributions.
                           Working Conditions
    The safety and reliability of our aviation system depend entirely 
on the skilled professionals who operate it, from the ramp to the radar 
room. These aviation professionals ensure the safety and reliability of 
American air travel through their dedication, training. and expertise. 
Ensuring their working conditions match their critical 
responsibilities, that they are fair, safe, and supportive benefits 
both the workforce and the traveling public. The 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization Act specifies a number of ways in which working 
conditions for employees across the industry can and should be 
improved.
    For example, airport ramp workers face significant hazards such as 
jet blasts, engine ingestion, tire explosions, and other vehicular 
accidents, often with limited protection. By initiating a comprehensive 
review and providing targeted training, as required by this bill, the 
FAA will address critical safety gaps and empower workers with the 
knowledge and tools needed to prevent accidents. The inclusion of 
hazard training for all relevant employees ensures a unified, well-
informed workforce that can effectively respond to potential dangers.
    The legislation also addresses two critical worker health concerns: 
cabin air safety and radiation exposure. It directs the FAA to develop 
a standardized system for flight attendants, pilots, and aircraft 
maintenance technicians of air carriers to voluntarily report fume and 
smoke events promulgating a rule, where appropriate, on training, 
standardized reporting, and investigative procedure for oil and 
hydraulic events, and the installation of AQ monitoring equipment.
    Additionally, the bill directs the DOT to enter into an agreement 
with the National Academies to conduct a study on radiation exposure to 
crewmembers onboard various aircraft types operated under Part 121.
    Finally, the bill stipulates that the FAA must issue, at a minimum, 
guidance for lactation standards and rights for flight attendants and 
pilots to pump safely during flight. This provision is a meaningful 
step forward for working parents as it will facilitate balance between 
professional responsibilities and caregiving needs, promote better 
retention and job satisfaction, and set a precedent for workplace 
rights and support.
                           Safety Provisions
    While safety underlies every provision of the 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization Act, several critical safety measures demand immediate 
implementation attention.
    In the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, Congress passed a statute 
requiring, at a minimum, the FAA to issue a rule that all new aircraft 
for delivery to passenger air carriers have Installed Physical 
Secondary Barriers (IPSB) within one year. However, no meaningful 
action was taken to implement the rule until nearly five years after 
enacting the Saracini Aviation Safety Act of 2018 (i.e., Section 336 of 
P.L. 115-254). Finally, in June 2023, the FAA issued a long-awaited 
final rule to mandate the installation of secondary barriers on all 
newly manufactured aircraft within two years. Following the passage of 
the 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act, FAA should not only implement the 
Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) for secondary flight deck doors but 
also mandate through a final rule, secondary barriers on all flight 
deck doors not covered by the 2018 FAA Bill and attendant regulatory 
mandate. This would ensure all aircraft, including those that require a 
retrofit, have secondary flight deck barriers for passenger aircraft 
under FAR Part 121.
    The 2024 reauthorization also makes improvements in tackling long-
standing impediments for addressing mental health for pilots and 
controllers. The bill sets up a working group to review the FAA's 
medical processes for certification of pilots, the special issuance 
process, and mental health and medication protocol, with the intent to 
make recommendations for reforms. Section 411 includes requirements for 
the task group to monitor and evaluate implementation of the consensus 
Mental Health and Aviation Rulemaking Committee. While we are pleased 
with the Committee's work, we believe the FAA must do more to implement 
the ARC recommendations. As for implementation, we have major concerns 
that the FAA misinterpreting Section 801 of the reauthorization bill to 
significantly alter the deferral process for pilot medical certificates 
that require additional information for an FAA decision. This week the 
Office of Aerospace Medicine announced they intend to deny any 
applicant requiring additional information for certification, 
invalidating their medical and grounding pilots unnecessarily. These 
denials will have a chilling effect and introduce unintended 
consequences for those already under an initial denial. We believe this 
interpretation is incorrect, inconstant with the spirit and legislative 
history of the Act that was focused on accident and incident 
investigations and requires a stay of implementation and wholesale 
reinterpretation.
    The bill also addresses modernization and improvements to aircraft 
evacuation by requiring the FAA to conduct a study on improvements to 
the safety and efficiency of evacuation standards for manufacturers and 
carriers of transport category airplanes, among many other important 
provisions.
                               Conclusion
    From its very outset, the history of aviation safety has been 
written in hard-earned lessons shaped by a sobering reality: it can 
take a tragedy to reveal an unknown engineering flaw or a systemic 
vulnerability in established protocols. But it is also a tragedy when 
well-understood solutions to well-documented safety challenges--like 
mandating flight deck barriers or greater foreign repair station 
oversight--languish for decades in some cases after Congress required 
them. It is workers, travelers onboard flights, and the public on the 
ground below them who risk paying the true cost of federal inaction. 
Delayed action like those discussed in my testimony are unacceptable to 
both the professionals who make up our aviation workforce and the 
traveling public they serve. When a regulatory directive mandating FAA 
action within 12 to 18 months stretches into a 12- to 18-year 
implementation timeline, it should be equally unacceptable to each of 
you.
    The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act provides tools to address a number 
of risks that impact the lives of workers in this industry, but tools 
only matter if they're used. For the ramp worker facing jet blast 
hazards, for the airline crew managing cabin air quality concerns, for 
every aviation professional who ensures our system runs safely and 
smoothly--implementation must happen now. The workers our federation 
represents have always set the global standard for aviation excellence. 
It's time for the FAA to meet that standard with swift, decisive action 
to protect the workers who keep America flying.

    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you. With that, we are going 
to go to questions, and I am going to start with a senior 
member of the committee, subcommittee Chairman Crawford from 
Arkansas, for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Crawford. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me ask, if I 
might begin by unanimous consent to enter into the record the 
score from the Sunday game with Ranking Member Cohen's Memphis 
Tigers versus Arkansas State University. I didn't think it was 
supposed to go that way, Mr. Ranking Member, but 85-72, I 
believe.
    Mr. Cohen. We were generous.
    Mr. Crawford. Right. Thank you for that. Anyway, appreciate 
it. Back to business. We try to have fun here as much as we 
can.
    Mr. Woodworth, I am always concerned about how other 
countries are competing against our domestic industries in 
areas like drones, which you obviously have a lot of expertise 
in. And one of the recurring themes in this hearing has been 
rulemaking with regard to FAA and the delays associated with 
that. It has been terribly delayed. Can you tell me what 
effects the FAA's delay in issuing the rule has had on your 
domestic drone industry? I am especially concerned about 
workforce development and manufacturing and how we are falling 
behind with competitors from countries like China and other 
adversaries.
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, thank you for the question, 
Congressman. Yes, I think that the perfect example is sort of 
where I was a year and a half ago when I was before this 
committee talking about, sort of, how we were stuck. Our 
operations in the United States were very limited. We had a 
handful of sites, and most of our operations were happening 
overseas, because that was where, sort of, the regulatory 
environment allowed for the operations to occur. That is 
largely due to, sort of, having existed in this space of an 
exemption-based set of approvals, so, rather than having rules 
that you can operate by, sort of everything was going to the 
agency and asking for exemptions.
    That is a long process. That is an unpredictable process. 
And the unpredictable timelines for us as a business meant 
that, like, we had to go show progress somewhere else.
    Thankfully, due to the oversight that this committee has 
placed on the FAA over the last year and a half, we have seen 
significant advances in both the, sort of, speed and 
predictability of that process. And I think that, sort of, the 
next touchpoint to check on that will be getting the BVLOS 
notice of proposed rule published so that industry and other 
stakeholders can look at it and see if it does match the intent 
that you all put into the bill.
    Mr. Crawford. Just as a followup, do you have any 
recommendations for how we can ensure the FAA meets the 
deadline?
    Mr. Woodworth. I think a big element of it is making sure 
that that process doesn't get stuck, so, the FAA will write the 
rule, and then it goes into the interagency processes, then it 
comes out for public comment, ensuring that there is, sort of, 
the appropriate pressures on, like, let's advance the process, 
get the rule out so that people can comment on it, and then 
adjudicate those comments in a timely manner.
    You know, it is hard to study for a test when you don't 
know what, sort of, the subject is going to be, and so, we look 
forward to seeing what that rule looks like.
    Mr. Crawford. Excellent. Thank you. I appreciate your 
comments, and I appreciate all you all being here today. Before 
I yield the balance of my time, I do want to add my name to the 
list of well-wishers to our chairman, our illustrious chairman, 
Garret Graves. It has been an honor to serve with you, and 
obviously wish you all the best in every endeavor.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you very much. I appreciate 
it Thanks.
    You ready to go [to Mr. Cohen]?
    Mr. Cohen. Yes.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. I recognize the gentleman from 
Tennessee, ranking member of the subcommittee, Mr. Cohen, for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Regan, I would like to ask you a few questions. FAA 
currently has a 90-second evacuation standard for commercial 
aircraft, but that standard is based on an unrealistic study, 
terribly unrealistic. The EVAC Act, which was included in the 
reauthorization bill, requires a new study to consider 
passengers with disabilities, airplanes with young and old 
passengers as well, animals on the plane, carry-on baggage, and 
other factors of realistic flights when evaluating how seat 
size and configuration could impact evacuations. How important, 
Mr. Regan, is it that the FAA implement this provision as soon 
as possible? And what are the consequences for your members if 
the FAA does not get this right?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you for the question. I mean, I think it 
is critical that they implement this requirement. I mean, you 
are talking about, in many cases, aircraft that have been 
redesigned. You've had different seating arrangements. And 
we're talking about the process and requirements when there is 
a crisis. And if there is a crisis where you have to evacuate 
the aircraft, the entire flightcrew, the pilots, the flight 
attendants, the people on the ground, first responders who are 
going to be responding, need to have accurate information for 
how to evacuate an aircraft safely and efficiently, and try to 
avert the worst consequences when there is a disaster. So, I 
think this is a really important update to our regulations that 
should be implemented right away.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, sir. After public outrage over the 
treatment of passengers with disabilities and their mobility 
aids, such as wheelchairs, I introduced legislation to require 
the Department of Transportation to evaluate complaints about 
passengers with disabilities. This was included in the FAA 
reauthorization law.
    Mr. Regan, how much training do your airport service 
workers receive on how to appropriately assist passengers with 
disabilities, including both helping them on and off the 
aircraft and around the airport, as well as how to handle 
mobility aids, and what additional tools and guidance are 
needed from the Department of Transportation to ensure your 
members can meet the new requirements for handling passengers 
with disabilities?
    Mr. Regan. Well, I think one of the things that is often 
overlooked about those workers who play that critical role at 
airports in terms of boarding and deplaning, most of them are 
not employed directly by the airlines themselves. Most of them 
are out of subcontractors that are employing those--all of 
those important parts of the job. And in most cases, these are 
the lowest paid people in the entire industry. And that is 
something that the GAO study that was included in the bill is 
hoping to start to address, to bring up standards across the 
board, because when you have a hodgepodge of different 
contractors providing it, the safety training standards that 
you are referring to are oftentimes different depending on who 
the actual employer is and what their standards are.
    So, I do think, A, raising the standard of living for the 
workers who are doing those jobs, but also having 
standardization across the industry for what training 
priorities are necessary, and how they can do this job most 
effectively to comply with Federal disability laws is a really 
important priority for this committee.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, sir. I also had a provision that 
requires commercial aircraft on long overwater routes that 
black-box technology that allows investigators to recover the 
flight data cockpit voice recordings without searching the 
floor. Can you discuss the importance of having modern accident 
investigation technology that do not require underwater 
retrieval of the black boxes?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. I mean, again, we're talking about the 
unfortunate scenarios when something awful happens. I assure 
you if my friend, Jennifer Homendy, the Chair of the NTSB were 
here, she would have extremely extensive knowledge about what 
difficulties they face in terms of properly identifying what 
caused an accident, and certainly, access to the best data is 
really important for that process.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Bunce, the FAA reauthorization bill included numerous 
provisions to strengthen aviation workforce, including maximum 
hiring of air traffic controllers, review of staffing 
requirements for aviation safety inspectors, and workforce 
development programs for pilots, aviation maintenance, and 
aviation manufacturing. Have your members seen any progress on 
those provisions in the FAA reauthorization bill?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, Mr. Cohen. As we have watched the very 
positive pressure that this committee has put on the FAA, they 
really embrace the fact that they need to get their workforce 
out to our plants to do what we call knowledge sharing, and we 
don't call it training. We have an ability to go and get our 
technicians to sit together with the FAA technicians and teach 
them about the newest methodology and the technology that we 
incorporate into the industry, and it really does help.
    As I mentioned earlier, these young people are coming 
straight out of college, and the antiquated way that we do a 
lot of the things with the FAA now, we still use paper. These 
kids are very used to operating and manipulating 3D drawings 
with a computer rotating around, and everything, and so, this 
knowledge sharing also helps drive a change in the attitude in 
the FAA to embrace the new technology and the digitization that 
you all put into the bill to be able to go and let these young 
people use the skills that they have learned in college to 
properly regulate. And so, I really think what you have done in 
the workforce is put a light on what we need to do. And as I 
mentioned earlier, now getting these high school kids to have 
an opportunity to get excited about aerospace and all the 
opportunities there, these grants to be able to help high 
schools, but also our tech schools, be able to prepare our 
manufacturing workforce is the next element that we hope the 
appropriators will fund.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you. Before I yield back the time that I 
don't have, I would like to ask for unanimous consent to enter 
into the record a Transportation Workers Union of America paper 
on what their needs are with the FAA Reauthorization Act.
    Mr. Yakym [presiding]. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
  Letter of December 10, 2024, to Hon. Sam Graves, Chairman, and Hon. 
     Rick Larsen, Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure, and Hon. Garret Graves, Chairman, and Hon. Steve Cohen, 
   Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Aviation, from Andre Sutton, Air 
  Division Director, International Vice President, Transport Workers 
     Union of America, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Steve Cohen
                                                 December 10, 2024.
The Honorable Sam Graves,
Chair,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Rick Larsen,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, U.S. House of 
        Representatives, Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable Garret Graves,
Chair,
Subcommittee on Aviation, Committee on Transportation and 
        Infrastructure, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC 
        20515.
The Honorable Steve Cohen,
Ranking Member,
Subcommittee on Aviation, Committee on Transportation and 
        Infrastructure, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, DC 
        20515.
    Dear Chair Graves, Ranking Member Larsen, Chair Graves, and Ranking 
Member Cohen,
    On behalf of more than 155,000 members of the Transport Workers 
Union of America (TWU), I am writing to thank you for your work on the 
FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 and to share the implementation status 
of several essential provisions all of us worked hard to win in 
statute. TWU flight attendants, ground workers, mechanics, dispatchers, 
and other airline workers are anxiously awaiting progress on these 
issues.
    The TWU was proud to work with this Committee on a strong, 
bipartisan FAA Reauthorization of 2024 that acknowledges the essential 
work our members perform to ensure the United States retains its gold 
standard in aviation safety. Throughout the final bill, the Committee 
attempted to reform not only the FAA's policies but its processes to 
force the agency to be more responsive to its statutory requirements. 
We hope that the committee will increase its scrutiny of the FAA and 
force the agency to meet its obligations in a timelier manner.
    A full list of the overdue provisions important to our membership 
is included below. Most urgently, the FAA seems intent to ignore 
deadlines related to reshoring aircraft maintenance work, preventing 
assaults within our air system, and updating ramp worker safety.
    Reshoring aircraft maintenance (Sec. 302) is essential to ensuring 
we truly have one level of safety across the U.S.-flagged fleet. 
Longstanding regulatory loopholes at the FAA allow facilities the 
agency certifies outside of the U.S. to ignore safety rules regarding 
drug and alcohol testing, background checks, minimum qualifications for 
aircraft maintenance technicians, and random inspections. Congress has 
twice previously directed the FAA to close some of these loopholes (in 
2012 and 2016); the FAA is now more than a decade overdue for any 
action on this issue and if history is any indication, will likely miss 
yet another deadline to correct this.
    Assaults in our air system remain far too high. Gate agents, flight 
attendants, and other public-facing workers continue to face increased 
violence on the job with little recourse possible. Ensuring workers are 
trained is critical to their safety. The FAA must convene a task force 
to develop voluntary standards and best practices, including for flight 
crew and cabin crew response (Sec. 432). Additionally, the FAA is now 
past due to begin actions to incorporate into pre-takeoff announcements 
a statement informing passengers of federal law prohibiting 
interference with the duties of a crewmember.
    Ramp worker safety was highlighted in the year preceding adoption 
of the FAA reauthorization when four workers died on the job from 
safety failures. The FAA has never reviewed or revised its ground 
worker safety rules--a task the agency was directed to begin no later 
than November 12, 2024 (Sec. 353). The delay in this process is putting 
more and more ground workers at risk as workers in an increasingly 
complicated, congested environment face poor regulatory compliance even 
under the existing, lax safety rules.
    As this Committee continues to fulfill its crucial oversight duties 
of the FAA, we respectfully request that you ensure these provisions of 
the FAA Reauthorization of 2024 are properly implemented as soon as 
possible. The safety and well-being of our members, as well as the 
safety of the traveling public, depend on the full implementation of 
this pro-worker, pro-safety law. The TWU looks forward to continuing to 
work with this Committee to advance strong policies that benefit TWU 
members.
            Sincerely,
                                              Andre Sutton,
               Air Division Director, International Vice President,
                                Transport Workers Union of America.

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                Issue                         Section(s)                Deadline                  Status
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Drug & alcohol testing at FAA-         Sec. 302(b)............  11/16/2025.............  NPRM closed in April
 certified repair facilities outside                                                      2024; final rule still
 the U.S.                                                                                 pending at OMB.
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Background checks for safety           Sec. 302(b)(2).........  No deadline.
 sensitive workers at FAA-certified
 repair facilities outside the U.S.
 rulemaking.
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Minimum AMT qualifications at FAA-     Sec. 302(a)............  11/16/2025.
 certified repair facilities outside
 the U.S.
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Random inspections at FAA-certified    Sec. 302(a)............  No deadline.
 repair facilities outside the U.S.
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Ramp safety call to action...........  Sec. 353...............  11/12/2024.............  Past due.
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Prohibition of remote dispatching....  Sec. 420(a)(2).........  5/16/2025.
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AIR PUMP.............................  Sec. 421...............  11/12/2024.............  Past due.
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Report on safe uniforms..............  Sec. 409...............  5/16/2026.
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Deterring crewmember interference      Sec. 432(b)............  8/14/2024..............  Past due.
 announcement.
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DOT request National Academies study   Sec. 322...............  9/13/2024..............  Past due.
 on radiation exposure.
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Study on cabin temperatures..........  Sec. 323...............  5/16/2026.
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ARC on installation of secondary       Sec. 350...............  11/16/2024.............  Established October
 barriers.                                                                                2024.
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Bleed air study (FAA 2018              Sec. 362(a)............  11/16/2024.............  Past due.
 requirement).
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Fume event reporting system..........  Sec. 362(b)............  11/12/2024.............  Past due.
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Study on evacuation standards........  Sec. 365...............  5/16/2025.
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Passenger aircraft first aid and       Sec. 368...............  5/16/2026.
 emergency medical kit equipment and
 training NPRM.
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Improved training standards for        Sec. 542...............  11/16/2024.............  NPRM closed in June
 assisting passengers who use                                                             2024; final rule still
 wheelchairs NPRM.                                                                        pending at OMB (due by
                                                                                          5/16/25).
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Training standards for stowage of      Sec. 543...............  11/16/2024.............  NPRM closed in June
 wheelchairs and scooters NPRM.                                                           2024; final rule still
                                                                                          pending at OMB (due by
                                                                                          5/16/25).
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    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, and I yield back that time.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you. And I now recognize myself for 5 
minutes. I want to start with a few words of thanks to our 
outgoing subcommittee chair, Garret Graves. He has been a good 
friend of mine, someone who has mentored me in this House. We 
will certainly miss your leadership, your quick wit, your 
energy, and I may also say that I have described to not only 
people on this committee, but other people in the House that, 
Mr. Chairman, I have referred to you often as my aspirational 
peer on policy. You really do understand what it is we do on 
this committee, and your thoughtful leadership has left the T&I 
Committee and even more specifically the Aviation Subcommittee 
in very good shape going forward. I know I join my colleagues 
in wishing you all the best in your next endeavor.
    I also want to thank our witnesses for being here, and if 
you look at everything that we have accomplished here through 
the FAA reauthorization bill, we have a lot of work ahead of us 
in terms of implementation.
    Mr. Woodworth, I want to ask you about the beyond visual 
line of sight rules or BVLOS rule for unmanned aerial aircraft 
systems. As you know, section 930 of the FAA Reauthorization 
Act directed the FAA to publish a notice of proposed rulemaking 
on BVLOS by September 16, 2024. Unfortunately, nearly 2 months 
past that deadline, we still have no notice of proposed 
rulemaking. Can you talk about the importance of getting this 
NPRM out as soon as possible?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes. Thank you for the question. I think it 
is critically important, namely because of the progress that we 
have experienced over the last year and a half. So, a lot of 
that is still based on exemptions. It is still based on, sort 
of, like, one of approvals. It is not sort of--it is not a 
programmatic and rule-based approach, so, having a rule would 
solidify that progress.
    I think that the risk that we are facing right now is that 
we could very easily recede on the gains that have been made 
over the last year and a half. We can't comment on a rule until 
the rule is out. We don't know what the rule will look like. We 
don't know if it maps to, sort of, the guidance that you all 
put into the Reauthorization Act, and so, the sort of critical 
next step in rulemaking is to see that in the Federal Register, 
so that we can continue to move forward as an industry.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you for that answer, and I really do hope 
that the FAA and the Department of Transportation can act very 
soon to give you the certainty that you need and deserve. Mr. 
Woodworth, sticking with you, if we want to enter a new market, 
do you have to conduct a new environmental assessment? Is that 
correct?
    Mr. Woodworth. At the moment, yes. This has been one of 
the, sort of, longest lead and most unpredictable items that we 
have in our plans to continue operational scale. When we first 
started, it was literally if you were in one parking lot and 
you wanted to move across the street to another parking lot, 
you had to rego through the process, and that could be 6, 9, 12 
months. Very unpredictable.
    We have seen progress on that. The FAA did that for all of 
the DFW area. So, the, sort of, the whole metroplex as one 
assessment. And then they have done one for all of North 
Carolina. So, I think the, sort of, next logical step in that 
would be to do a nationwide approach. All of these assessments 
are coming back with, sort of, no substantial findings, so, I 
think it would be pragmatic to move forward a national 
approach.
    Mr. Yakym. And very briefly, every time you do one of these 
environmental assessments, roughly how much does that cost?
    Mr. Woodworth. I do not have the, sort of, dollar figures 
available, but it is a significant time investment, and it 
provides a significant amount of uncertainty in our plans to 
expand.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you. Switching gears with the time I have 
left to Mr. Bunce, I appreciated your testimony highlighting 
how technology can improve the aviation sector. If there is any 
pilot program for the mobility of clearances, which I advocated 
for along with several of my colleagues on this committee, can 
you talk about how this pilot program mobile clearance delivery 
will advance in technology and how the FAA is doing in terms of 
implementation so far?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, sir. When we try to take off in congested 
airspace, what we call either class B or class C airspace, you 
need to get a clearance to be able to enter into that airspace. 
So, what you do now is you either use the radios, but think 
about an advanced air mobility aircraft that is not in the line 
of sight for the radio. So, they are going to have to call on 
the phone, talk to the controller. The controller then tells 
them, you can launch and here's your launch window. It is 
generally about 2 minutes, and you have to be airborne during 
that time.
    So, think about how inefficient that is, and if the 
controller is busy, that aircraft may be sitting there waiting 
to take off for a long period of time versus an electronic 
signal that is just--they can look on their mobile devices and 
be able to say, okay, here is your takeoff clearance, here is 
your time. It is going to expedite this tremendously.
    We are trying to push the FAA and the air traffic control 
organization to tell us where we are going to put those five 
test sites, and we definitely want to have input in where we 
are going to operate to start this process with advanced air 
mobility.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you. The Chair now recognizes the ranking 
member of the full committee, Mr. Larsen, for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chairman, 
I yield my time to Mr. Johnson of Georgia.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. I thank the ranking member of the 
full committee. And I want to thank Chairman Garret Graves and 
also Ranking Member Cohen for convening this important hearing. 
I also extend my gratitude to the gentlemen on the panel for 
your very wise testimony today.
    One of my proudest moments of the 118th Congress was the 
passage of the bipartisan, bicameral Federal Aviation 
Administration Reauthorization Act of 2024. This monumental 
achievement reaffirms the United States as a global leader in 
the aviation industry. This is just the beginning. Our task now 
is to ensure that the policies we fought for are executed with 
urgency and precision. The stakes are too high because more 
than 20,000 airports and over 1 million aviation workers across 
the United States depend on us.
    Airports like Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International 
Airport in Georgia, one of the busiest in the country, are 
waiting for these changes to enhance safety, efficiency, and 
the passenger experience for millions every day. We owe it to 
every worker in this industry and every passenger flying our 
skies to ensure that these reforms are not just promised but 
delivered.
    I am proud to have worked on this law, and I look forward 
to collaborating with my colleagues, stakeholders, and the 
entire aviation community to ensure its successful 
implementation.
    Mr. Terreri, the 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act directs the 
FAA and the Department of Energy to led research and 
development for the safe use of hydrogen in civil aviation. 
This involves creating a strategy for hydrogen-powered 
aircraft, developing certification standards, and coordinating 
with various stakeholders.
    The goal is to ensure general aviation aircraft can 
transition away from leaded fuels by 2030. How can airports 
collaborate with the FAA in shaping these standards to ensure 
smooth implementation of hydrogen propulsion in aviation?
    Mr. Terreri. Thank you for the question. From an airport 
perspective, I think the question could probably be answered 
better by a colleague over general aviation. But real briefly 
from the airport perspective, once it is certified, once it is 
allowed an aircraft, that is when the airport would have to 
deal with storing at the airport or having it on site. But 
other than the implementation certification, that is not 
something that the airport would really he involved in.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. All right. Thank you.
    Mr. Bunce, would you care to respond?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, sir, one of our advanced air mobility 
companies have just demonstrated using liquid hydrogen which 
you have to cool. It comes in a liquid form, but they put 
basically a pod underneath the vehicle and extended the range 
tremendously. Now, we don't have the infrastructure to deliver 
that to all the airports, but virtually all of our companies 
are looking at the potential for hydrogen whether you go and 
you convert that hydrogen through a fuel cell to electricity to 
operate electric motors or you actually burn that hydrogen up 
at altitudes like you would petroleum-based fuel. So, there is 
tremendous potential there. There are also a lot of technical 
challenges of being able to cool it to a level that you can 
keep it in that liquid form, because it boils off. But we have 
done it before, and we are very excited about the potential of 
the technology.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan, mental health is often stigmatized in high-
stress professions like aviation. The 2024 FAA Reauthorization 
Act acknowledges the importance of mental health, mandating the 
FAA to update its aeromedical protocols and establish a mental 
health task group to support aviation professionals. What steps 
do you think the FAA and aviation companies should take to 
reduce the stigma and encourage aviation workers to seek mental 
health support without fear of judgment or negative 
repercussions?
    Mr. Regan. I appreciate the question. I think it starts 
really with ensuring that we treat it as an illness, like we do 
with any other condition that a pilot or a flight attendant or 
an air traffic controller would face. We need to be able to 
ensure that workers don't have to worry about losing their 
jobs, losing their pay, losing their livelihoods and careers 
because they are suffering from an illness. And that right 
there, that assurance that they are going to be able to seek 
treatment and move on with their lives and continue their 
careers, it is a really important component. Otherwise, if you 
have got that hanging over your head that you might have to 
find a new line of work if I seek the treatment that I know I 
need, you are not going to be able to get the right types of 
treatment for the people who need it moving forward.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. And I yield back.
    Mr. Yakym. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Molinaro for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Molinaro. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I, too, want to extend 
my appreciation to subcommittee Chair Garret Graves. I find it 
much easier to compliment him now in his absence. But I wish to 
truly express my genuine appreciation for his leadership. I am 
truly grateful for his friendship and frankly America is better 
because Garret Graves has served this Congress in his community 
and district.
    Mr. Regan, I want to start with you, if you don't mind. As 
you know, despite having the same certifications as U.S. 
facilities, Federal regulations have allowed foreign repair 
facilities to operate on lower safety standards, which of 
course as we know has incentivized offshoring airline 
maintenance jobs. Thankfully, section 302, which we were 
successful in including FAA reauthorization, begins to remedy 
those regulatory discrepancies by now requiring the FAA to 
issue long overdue final rule mandating the alcohol and drug 
testing of workers who maintain part 121 aircraft at foreign 
repair stations within 18 months of enactment. This rule was 
first mandated in the FAA reauthorization of 2012.
    Late last year, the Biden administration issued a notice of 
proposed rulemaking. However, as you know, as of December 10, 
2024, final rule has yet to be issued.
    In addition to requiring the FAA to conduct unannounced 
annual inspections of foreign facilities, section 302 requires 
setting minimum qualifications for mechanics at these 
facilities within 18 months of enactment, as well as mandates a 
rulemaking requiring the security threat assessment of these 
workers.
    Could you speak with some detail as to the importance of 
finally leveling this playing field in the inclusion of section 
302 and FAA reauthorization?
    Mr. Regan. Yes. And thank you, most importantly, for your 
leadership on this issue. You have been, in your time here, a 
real advocate on behalf of hiring and increasing our standards 
for anybody who is doing work on U.S. aircraft. And if you look 
at just the standards that required for domestic aircraft 
maintenance professionals, I mean, you have background checks, 
drug and alcohol testing, there are higher training standards, 
certification standards across the board. And we implemented 
those because they make the system safer. And yet, with the 
hundreds of foreign repair stations across the country who work 
on U.S. aircraft, who get a FAA certification in order to do 
that work on U.S. aircraft, the standards are just far, far 
below. And that to me has always been perplexing: Why would we 
accept a different standard somewhere else when they are doing 
the same type of work and they are carrying the same U.S. 
passengers on our aircraft and the safety should be the same, 
held to the same standard?
    In addition, it's a jobs issue. I mean, we have 20,000 
fewer mechanics in the U.S. than we did in 2000. It is clear 
that this is a way to save costs. We should not be sacrificing 
safety at the same time and that is currently where we are at.
    Mr. Molinaro. Thank you, Mr. Regan. I obviously agree and 
appreciate working with you and your members.
    Mr. Terreri, first thank you for your leadership of an 
important airport in upstate New York. In fact, I will be 
flying into Syracuse myself. But I wanted to--I only have a 
minute and a half, I wanted to get to at least one point. As 
you know, airlines of course have reduced service at many of 
the smaller airports, certainly throughout upstate New York, 
leaving many of our shared constituents in areas like 
Binghamton, Ithaca, in Columbia County, and of course, even in 
Syracuse, without convenience and convenient access.
    Advanced air mobility certainly can play a role in solving 
this problem filling those regional gaps. And I know that 
Syracuse is on the cutting edge of this issue. With major 
investment coming your way, the demand is going to grow.
    Your testimony mentions that the 2024 FAA reauthorization 
didn't include some of the more robust regulatory and statutory 
provisions needed to advance AAM. And so, based on your 
experience, can you talk briefly about what is needed from the 
FAA and Congress to fully enable AAM advancement?
    Mr. Terreri. Yes, and thank you for the question.
    I think a focus on first getting the aircraft certified, 
right, getting them flying. And then having the standards to 
integrate them into the airspace. And as you look at what these 
vehicles are capable of doing today, the short distances it 
flies, advanced air mobility is a real solution to connect 
disconnected communities who have lost their air service. So, a 
focus on advancing that technology will help increase and speed 
up those communities that are losing their air service. 
Aircraft are getting larger, so, those communities are not 
going to be having as much service. Advanced air mobility is 
something that can solve that.
    Mr. Molinaro. I was very grateful to have a provision added 
to FAA reauthorization that does in fact expand the capacity to 
dedicate Federal resources to airports to expand AAM VTOL and 
eVTOL and frankly look forward to the advancement and hopeful 
in the next administration a more streamlined and efficient 
process to expand the innovation, so, thanks very much.
    And I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Yakym. Thank you, Mr. Molinaro.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Indiana, Mr. 
Carson.
    Mr. Carson. Thank you, Chair, and fellow Hoosier and 
friend.
    This question is for Mr. Regan. I was very pleased to see 
your written testimony that over a year ago, the FAA announced 
that they were starting the implementation of secondary cockpit 
barriers on new passenger aircraft. This is the requirement, as 
you know, sir, that I authored in the FAA Reauthorization Act 
in 2018. Labor groups have been some of the strongest advocates 
for these safety devices to keep the flight decks secure and to 
keep crew and passengers safe. Yet, implementation has been 
painfully slow, in fact, some suggest deliberately delayed by 
the industry. What is your assessment, sir, of implementation 
progress so far? And can you give us an idea of the percentage 
of implementation at this point? And what can our community do 
to basically speed things up and get secondary cockpit barriers 
installed on all new aircraft?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you for the question.
    You are right, this has been way too slow on the 
implementation of the secondary barrier requirements. I mean, 
we are talking about the very last of ``The 9/11 Commission 
Report'' requirements to be implemented by Congress. And yet, 
when we passed that law in 2018, despite the very clear 
language about any newly manufactured aircraft should be 
equipped with secondary barriers, there was a whole bunch of 
hemming and hawing over what is ``newly manufactured 
aircraft.''
    Is it a new model? Is it just literally something coming 
off the line? I thought Congress was pretty clear: It is every 
newly manufactured aircraft. It doesn't matter if it is a new 
model. That should be implemented fully. And furthermore, I 
mean, the standard should be extended also to cargo aircraft as 
well, which also a threat in that regard.
    I can't give you an exact percentage in terms of the amount 
that has been done. But I do think in terms of retrofitting and 
the work that was done in this legislation will strengthen that 
Federal requirement. But I do think it is incumbent upon 
Congress to hold them accountable to actually see through the 
letter of the law in terms of why this critical security 
measure is necessary.
    Mr. Carson. Thank you, sir.
    This question is for everyone, this followup question. Air 
traffic controllers, safety inspectors, and transportation 
workers we all know perform amazing jobs, often so in very 
challenging circumstances in the towers, on the ground, and 
certainly in flight. So, first, I want to say thank you for 
your hard work and keeping our American skies the safest in the 
world quite frankly. The best in the world.
    What are the most important provisions in the FAA bill, in 
your mind, that will be the most helpful to these workers and 
to keep our flights running very safely and on time? And 
lastly, is there one thing that is not in our bill that you 
believe should have been included?
    Mr. Terreri. All right, I will go ahead and start. From the 
airport perspective, the increase in funding in AIP. It allows 
us to increase critical infrastructure, it allows us to address 
safety issues at the airports, whether it be runway 
construction, right, whether it is any other kind of surface 
infrastructure development. So, having that additional funding 
for us is what we see is making the airport environment more 
safe.
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think from my perspective, it is 
getting a BVLOS rule out and published and enacted to help, 
sort of, advance the integration of new entrants into the 
airspace and provide a framework from which we can keep 
growing.
    Mr. Bunce. I think, Mr. Carson, from my perspective on a 
lot of the advisory committees that actually look at the NAS is 
not only in this reauthorization but in previous ones, there 
has been an ask from the Congress to give us a plan on how to 
optimize the facilities and take a close look at it. Of course, 
the fear is that any time that the FAA or DOT would come 
forward, you know, don't do it in my district, don't do it in 
my State. And so, there isn't really a mechanism by which the 
executive branch can actually try to execute and think they 
could ever get it through the legislative branch. And so, if I 
would say anything, it is that we all work together to figure 
out in this modern day of telecommunications, how many real 
centers do we need? How many TRACONs?
    Where can we spend the money, but also where can we build 
the one of this century, wherever it is, to say let's capture 
the way we now communicate digitally and be able then to say, 
okay, based on that, how many do we really need and how many 
TRACONs? And I think that would help the FAA and DOT actually 
provide a plan forward.
    Mr. Regan. All right. Well, first of all, in terms of 
things that need to be implemented, I mean, the drug and 
alcohol testing for foreign repair station workers, I mean, 
that is an issue. Oversight of foreign repair stations is 
something I have been working on for the entirety of my 13 
years at TTD. It would be nice to be able move that off the 
list if we get a good solid final rule that enhances the safety 
of our system.
    But we also need to have a Federal workforce, including 
controllers and safety inspectors, that meet the growing 
demands of our systems, so, meeting our minimum hiring 
standards. The newly minted hiring standards for controllers is 
a really important priority and one that will actually improve 
the efficiency and effectiveness of our national system.
    In terms of things that were not included that I would have 
liked to include: stronger standards for the contract workers. 
We are an industry that prides itself on being a bastion of 
middle class jobs, whether you are a pilot or a flight 
attendant or controller or ramp worker and you are protected by 
a union, you are going to be able to make a real--and raise a 
family and have a solid job that way. The workers that often 
get forgotten are those who are subcontracted out, whether it 
be the people making the food that is served on board the 
aircraft or the people cleaning the airports or whether it be 
the people doing ADA compliance, those workers need to have a 
higher standard for how they are performing in the industry, an 
industry that rightfully prides itself on providing middle 
class jobs.
    Mr. Carson. Thank you.
    I yield back, Chairman.
    Mr. Fong [presiding]. Thank you. I now recognize Mr. Van 
Drew for 5 minutes for questions.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Let me start by saying a few words about Garret Graves. 
It's been an honor to serve alongside him. He is a good man, he 
is smart, he is focused, he is energetic, he cares about what 
he does, and we will miss him. I want him to know as he looks 
over these videos of this hearing that we do appreciate him, 
that I wish him the very best, and that he has a great future. 
He's got a lot of good things he is going to do.
    What I am going to speak about today is not what I thought 
I was going to speak about 1 week or 2 weeks ago, and I am 
going to be very blunt. We have a serious problem with our 
airspace. The recent sightings of unidentified drones in the 
State of New Jersey, my home State, is justifiably causing 
tremendous public concern. These drones are large, they are 
sophisticated. We don't know for sure who is controlling them. 
And the FAA's current capabilities cannot even locate them on 
radar. We have a hole in our monitoring systems, and we have a 
hole in our radar currently. And the truth is, whether people 
want to hear it or not, we are vulnerable.
    Our Government has failed to effectively regulate our drone 
industry. And this is not an isolated incident or an isolated 
phenomenon. Unidentified drones are running across the country. 
And let me be blunt and again say it how it is: Foreign drone 
technology, particularly China, is a full decade--10 years--
ahead of where we are. That is unacceptable in America. We are 
number one. We have always been number one, but we are not now. 
And they can take and they intend to take full advantage of our 
vulnerabilities.
    I have learned for real that there is circumstantial 
evidence that there is an Iranian mothership off the east coast 
of the United States. And it is launching these drone 
incursions. They are from high, good sources, individuals who 
are reputable, individuals who speak with authority, 
unfortunately are concerned with identifying who they are at 
this point we are saying this, but it is true. It is 
unacceptable, and it is frightening, and our Government has to 
act.
    I say this not only as a Member of Congress from the State 
of New Jersey, but I say this as someone who loves America, 
like we all do who are in this room. We must build a national 
drone infrastructure. We must control our airspace, and we must 
protect the American people. The unfortunate reality is that 
this current administration has allowed our Nation to fall 
behind the rest of the world, and that is unacceptable.
    This Congress passed the FAA reauthorization to promote a 
strong and regulated drone industry. The bill included a 
mandate--we worked on this, my office, as did other offices. We 
did a lot on it to include a mandate for the FAA to develop 
rules--and you all know what this means--for beyond visual line 
of sight operations. It's a critical capability for the drone 
industry that we need to have, but it's only one of the many 
steps that we must take. We are already years behind the rule.
    The reauthorization unequivocally directed the FAA to 
advance the rulemaking process. We gave them, as some of you 
know and this committee knows, until September 16, which is now 
3 long months ago. But President Biden's office of management 
has again delayed its release.
    Frankly, this is not the only area of technology that we 
have heard this about. They have failed to move from 5G to key 
safety technologies. Our Nation's innovation is being hampered 
by big, burgeoning, nonfunctional bureaucracy. We need a real 
cultural transformation at the FAA and our Government as a 
whole to come to a reality in dealing with this technology.
    We need an organizational structure at the FAA that is 
bold, an organizational structure that is ambitious in 
advancing our American technology so that we are number one.
    So, I would like to submit for the record a statement from 
Robert Rose, cofounder and CEO of Reliable Robotics. Chairman, 
I would like to submit this for the record. They are an 
advanced aviation safety technology company that has endorsed 
the proposals I put forward to reform the FAA.
    This committee must work with our new President, President 
Trump, to make the United States of America the most dominant 
drone power in the world. We lead, we don't follow. That is 
America. This is about our safety. It is about our national 
security.
    It's about our future as a Nation, the United States of 
America, the greatest country on the face of the Earth. It is 
real, and we have to get on the stick. We have to do what's 
right.
    So, there--no, there isn't a few seconds left. I thank you. 
I gave you my speech. I know some of you know and I have spoken 
to before, this is a big deal, this is a real big deal. It's 
happening right now in my State as we speak, and it is a 
serious threat, whether anybody wants to admit it or not.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Fong. Thank you. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The statement from Reliable Robotics was previously 
submitted by Hon. Garret Graves and is on pages 13-15.]
    I now recognize Mr. Garcia for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    And I, too, want to express my gratitude to Garret Graves 
for all of his contributions and of course his role in 
shepherding the legislation that we are discussing today 
forward.
    And of course I am glad to see that the FAA bill contained 
a workforce development programs component to it to include 
aviation manufacturing. Pursuing a wider pool of talent is 
necessary if we are to indeed move workforce needed to support 
increased travel demand in the coming years.
    I would like to begin by thanking the witnesses here today 
and begin my questioning. Mr. Bunce, recognizing that the 
workforce development program is awaiting funding, can you 
describe what the recruitment of aviation manufacturing workers 
and aerospace engineers looks like right now? And why funding 
the Federal aviation workforce development programs is so 
important?
    Mr. Bunce. Sir, when we go and talk to parents and--think 
about when we fly today, very few people even look out the 
window, so, that luster that we used to have in aviation has 
been tarnished just because it is ubiquitous, we do it all the 
time.
    So, what we have found is one of the things that you have 
helped us with, this committee, is talking about this is 
probably the most exciting time in aerospace since the dawn of 
the jet age, because we are going to unmanned systems to be 
able to deliver medicine all over the world. To be able to go 
and have electric aviation, which, think about it, service to 
rural communities and that we have the luxury of having a 
network of 5,000 public use airports that ring around our 
cities, but also in all of rural America.
    No one in the Nation, on the planet, has this. And so, by 
having these grants and to be able to go and show young people 
that work, if you go into any of our factories, especially the 
AAM companies right now, you will see young men and women--and 
I am very proud of the fact that we have more and more women 
entering into aviation, which has been a very male-dominated 
profession up to this point, but it is just fascinating.
    And these types of grants will help us share that word, not 
only to high schools and middle schools, but also in those tech 
centers, but also allowing folks to take advantage of the great 
programs like NASA has for scholarships for engineers that 
supply both Government and industry.
    So, this is important. And we really need the funding out 
of the Appropriations Committee to be able to go and actualize 
this program.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. And thank you for that. I strongly 
believe that the aviation workforce should reflect the 
diversity of the country and that the workforce development 
program words toward that, fully funding the Willa Brown 
aviation education programs which provides educational support. 
Opportunities in underrepresented community would also help.
    Next, I would like to focus on the workers who make the 
flying experience possible. Mr. Regan, as you pointed out in 
your testimony, airport ramp workers are faced with numerous 
hazards in their day to day. FAA is currently reviewing ramp 
worker safety with the goal of submitting a report to Congress 
next year with recommendations.
    Mr. Regan, why would addressing gaps in training and risks 
on the ramp help improve the safety and well-being of workers?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you for the question.
    Frankly, it cannot be overstated how important having the 
proper safety and training for these workers is. We have seen 
the consequences of when things don't go well, and they are 
fatal. And we have had a number of workers who have 
unfortunately lost their lives at their workplaces and that 
should never be an acceptable outcome in our country and for 
our Government that we have people who are dying while doing 
their jobs.
    And so, I think having the proper recommendations will be 
important. But then again, I think we also need Congress to 
continue to hold them accountable. And too often we end up 
waiting for the big authorization years to attack problems to 
address problems. And when we do have the proper feedback from 
the FAA on how to improve the system, Congress needs to be 
prepared to act right away and not wait for the next big bill, 
the next Christmas tree to try to move forward. I think it is 
incumbent to act on the best information we have as it comes 
in.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. Thank you for that.
    Ramp workers play a critical role in guiding aircraft to 
and from their gates, loading and unloading luggage, amongst 
other duties. My Good Jobs for Good Airports bill would have 
ensured minimum wage and benefits for ramp workers and other 
service workers.
    And I look forward to working with you in the next coming 
Congress and thereafter to improve the situation. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Fong. Thank you.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes for questions.
    If I can ask Mr. Woodworth, as you know, the UAV industry 
is new, there are challenges that are emerging, of course, when 
a new industry is operating in a new regulatory climate. What 
do you see the future of UAVs? What do you see that industry 
looking like 20 years from now?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think that one of largest 
misconceptions about our industry is that it is this thing that 
is sort of super far off in the future. And I think that the 
reality both for UAS and companies in UAM is that technology is 
ready today and, sort of, large elements of that future are 
here right now.
    I think for us, we are focused on primarily package 
delivery as our use case. And what that really means is, right 
now, today, you have multithousand-pound vehicles driving 
around small boxes, carrying people's meals, things like that, 
and it makes much more sense both for our infrastructure and 
for the safety of the general public to transport those goods 
by a smaller, more efficient means.
    So, my and our view of the future is that you have a robust 
UAS ecosystem within the United States. You have operations 
happening all across the Nation around the clock and that those 
operations are having a real meaningful impact on the citizens 
of the U.S.
    Mr. Fong. So, working backwards from that vision, certainly 
the regulatory climate right now was not crafted with UAV 
operations in mind. What recommendations, I read your 
testimony, but what specific recommendations do you have that 
would improve the structure, the framework that currently 
exists to allow it to be more robust?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think a big element of that hinges on 
what is in the BVLOS rule. So, for example, things that have 
been challenging to us over the last several years are the 
topic of type certification, the topic of environmental impact 
assessments. A lot of things that are very much, sort of, like 
square peg/round hole problems for us where we are trying to 
fit into a set of aviation regulations that were built for 
aircraft that weigh many tens of thousands of pounds and were 
carrying around dozens or hundreds of people.
    I think that if key elements of the BVLOS rule focus on 
solidifying the gains that have happened over the last year and 
a half or so and making those truly programmatic and truly 
rule-based so that we can continue to, sort of, build on the 
progress that has been made so far.
    Mr. Fong. So, I think the big challenge certainly is that 
you are going to see very dynamic advancements over the next 5, 
10, 15, 20 years. And you will have new platforms, you will 
have new--so, how do we get beyond just having to do a review 
every single time there is a new technology or a new platform? 
What advice do you have for Congress?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think a big element, which I think 
was in the Reauthorization Act and has been in the dialogues 
over the last year and a half has been making things 
performance-based. So, focusing on, sort of, the true risk 
assessment of the systems that you are operating, the true 
types of operations that they are performing and then making 
sure that the regulatory framework around that can support a 
whole bunch of different solutions.
    So, if you go out to an airport today, you look around the 
ramp, there are all sorts of different airplanes. And those 
airplanes are built for different use cases, but they all 
operate within the same framework. And so, I think that for 
emerging technologies, to take a similar approach where you 
focus on the outcome that you are trying to get to rather than 
a super prescriptive method of getting there.
    Mr. Fong. And do you think that culture, that mentality 
exists at the FAA right now? Do you think that we are moving 
toward a performance-based approach or do you think there are 
still challenges that we need to work through?
    Mr. Woodworth. I believe that we are moving towards that 
approach, but as you know, there is always the risk of, sort 
of, one step forward, one step back, one step to the side. I 
think that the rulemaking is an approach to solidify those 
perspectives and take it so that it can be applied for years to 
come.
    Mr. Fong. So, let me ask, then, a broad question with just 
what you have outlined. What should this committee, what should 
Congress be working on in the year ahead to support the 
efforts? I know Mr. Van Drew mentioned having our country be 
more dominant in the UAV/UAS space.
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think it really is making sure that 
that rulemaking happens, making sure that it aligns with the 
intent that was written into the bill and being willing to 
change it if it does not.
    I think that the reason that growth has been slower in the 
United States is because of the uncertainty of how long will it 
take to expand, is there a process that, if I go through the 
whole process at the end of it, will it still be the same 
checklist that I started with? Having predictability in the 
process is what fosters growth.
    Mr. Fong. I certainly appreciate your testimony and your 
guidance and insight here.
    I now recognize Representative Scholten for 5 minutes for 
questions.
    Ms. Scholten. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Thank you to 
our distinguished witnesses for being here today.
    And I would be remiss if I didn't join the course of my 
colleagues in expressing appreciation for Chair Garret Graves 
and his leadership on the Aviation Subcommittee. Though he is 
not here at this moment, I just want to put into the record 
that he has brought tremendous wisdom to this committee and our 
country, so, thank you immensely.
    The FAA owns and operates air traffic control towers in 
airports across the country, of course this includes the 
federally operated air traffic control tower at the Gerald R. 
Ford International Airport in my district, our pride and joy. I 
am sure it is no surprise to anyone on this committee that I am 
bringing up our ATC.
    At 60 years old, GRR's air traffic control tower is the 
oldest among the top 75 busiest airports. However, the FAA has 
yet to provide a timeline for when GRR's air traffic control 
tower will be replaced, despite the fact that it has been 
identified as a top two priority and the design phase is now 
complete. This project is critical to ensuring that consumers 
have a smooth and safe travel experience, while boosting Grand 
Rapid's local economy.
    That is why I am so proud to have championed two provisions 
in the FAA reauthorization to ensure the transparent selection 
of air traffic control towers for replacement, as well as 
proper consideration of small hub air traffic control towers 
above a certain age when making these determinations.
    Mr. Terreri, how will these provisions provide clarity to 
ensure the FAA's delays in air traffic control tower 
replacements do not hinder airports' plans to expand their 
operations and services for consumers?
    Mr. Terreri. Well, thank you for the question. As far as 
impacting airports, I think as airports look at their long-term 
development plans, a lot of times the control tower might be in 
a location that impedes future development.
    So, having clarity on a timeline allows you in that master 
planning program to time when you are building additional 
terminals, moving the tower and sometimes having to raise the 
tower so that you have line of sight on all the new development 
and infrastructure that you have put in place.
    So, having that timeline will be really helpful as we look 
to continue developing our airports.
    Ms. Scholten. Great, thank you. In addition to providing 
insight into air traffic control tower replacements, the 2024 
FAA reauthorization established $350 million in a reimbursement 
program for airports to replace PFAS firefighting foam and 
equipment.
    This is also critically important to my district as we have 
been impacted by PFAS contamination at the airport and 
communities surrounding it. These Federal funds are 
particularly important in my community, not only because of the 
impact, but because of our location to the Great Lakes and the 
Grand River. Together, they form one of the largest freshwater 
estuaries in the entire world.
    Again, to you, Mr. Terreri, does this provision go far 
enough to support airports transitioning to PFAS-free 
firefighting foams to protect our environment and public 
health? And if not, how else can Congress further support PFAS 
removal from airports, as well as the communities that surround 
them?
    Mr. Terreri. So, I think this is a great start to help with 
that transition. The PFAS forms that we were required to use, 
it was a requirement for airports and now having to make that 
transition, this is helping transition that foam. But then you 
still have, as you have mentioned, some of the mitigation 
requirements that are going to be coming, right?
    I think as you look forward, it is kind of really three 
things I would break it down to, a little bit more 
communication with the FAA on what is going to be required, 
same thing with the trucks and other equipment that are coming 
on. I think helping get the CERCLA liability protections for 
airports would be a very big help for us. I think those are 
probably two of the biggest things. I think they would really 
help. But I think what we have right now is a great start, and 
I think it is going to help us continue to solve this problem. 
It is an industry problem that we have to address.
    Ms. Scholten. Thank you, sir.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana [presiding]. Thank you.
    I recognize the gentleman from Arkansas, Mr. Westerman, for 
5 minutes.
    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to the 
witnesses.
    I would be remiss if I didn't get on the Garret Graves 
congratulations train. Garret and I came in together as 
freshmen, and we served not only on this committee, but also on 
the Natural Resources Committee together. And I will say, 
nobody commands the facts more than Garret. I feel like I have 
learned a lot from being around Garret. And I appreciate all 
your hard work and the policies you have moved forward, and the 
debate that you bring to Congress will be greatly missed. I 
consider you a dear friend and wish you the best.
    Mr. Terreri, in the FAA reauthorization bill we enacted 
earlier this year, Congress directed the FAA to restore the 
waterfall for terminal flight data manager to not less than 89 
airports. The FAA had previously reduced that waterfall from 89 
to 49 airports, removing the Syracuse airport, as well as two 
airports in Little Rock and Fort Smith that serve many of my 
constituents.
    Since then, the FAA has not released an updated waterfall 
of which 40 additional airports will receive this important 
technology. Can you explain the importance of the FAA moving 
forward with this directive and how airports benefit from the 
implementations of technologies like TFDM?
    Mr. Terreri. I am sorry, I didn't hear the question.
    Mr. Westerman. Can you explain the importance of the FAA 
moving forward with this directive and how airports benefit 
from the implementation of technologies like TFDM?
    Mr. Terreri. Which technologies? I am sorry?
    Mr. Westerman. Terminal flight data managers that they are 
going to add 40 more----
    Mr. Terreri [interrupting]. I am not sure. We can get back 
to you. I am not exactly sure what you are referring to.
    Mr. Westerman. All right. Well, if you can get back to me, 
I would appreciate that.
    And I yield back the balance of my time to Mr. Stauber.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much.
    I, too, want to thank Representative Graves for his 
leadership as he heads out. You have been a great Member; your 
policy, thoughts, and ideas are second to none.
    I am going to get right to it. General aviation is the 
cornerstone of the aviation sector. In Duluth, Minnesota, 
Cirrus Aircraft has been one of the leaders in personal 
aviation, providing opportunity aviation to not only 
Minnesotans, but people around the world.
    Mr. Bunce, there has been a lot of focus and rightfully so 
by the incoming administration on rulemaking. Your testimony 
argues that the FAA's rulemaking is unique, as opposed to other 
agencies, especially in terms of enabling innovation and 
industry competitiveness. Can you elaborate on why this is the 
case?
    Mr. Bunce. Mr. Stauber, let's take Cirrus for instance. We 
are going to have to do rulemaking in the next few years, just 
as we worked to eliminate the lead in the avgas. So, if we go 
with a system that says you have got to get rid of a certain 
number of rules before you can promulgate one, it is very hard 
for DOT or the FAA to determine which rules to get rid of 
because they are all enabling regulations for aviation.
    So, we are very unique in that class. And it actually goes 
beyond just the rules itself. It goes to policy and guidance.
    So, there was a time back a couple of administrations ago 
where they actually had in DOT what was called the rule of 
rules and guidance on guidance, which just bogged down the 
whole system. And so, we really need this committee's help to 
emphasize to the new administration that aviation is unique in 
that way. And we need to be able to keep promulgating rules to 
keep pace with how fast technologies are advancing.
    Mr. Stauber. My second question you just answered, which 
was going to be: What direction should Congress and the 
administration take in this critical area so that manufacturers 
like Cirrus Aircraft can continue to provide opportunities in 
general aviation?
    Mr. Bunce. Absolutely. And you think about Cirrus is one of 
the aircraft, both in the jet that they produce and the piston 
aircraft that have a parachute in it, that technology is just 
one of many technologies that we are promulgating.
    It is now--and the jet has a button that if the pilot, 
something happens physiologically to the pilot, a passenger can 
push a button and that aircraft will land itself. And it tells 
air traffic control what is going on. The controllers know it 
is an emergency. It gives messages to the folks that are in the 
aircraft, don't worry, we have got it under control.
    And I have actually flown that aircraft, been able to push 
that button. It is incredible technology and that is the 
cornerstone to what we are going to do with automation, because 
we are going to make flying in this Nation--we are going to 
lead the world in being able to automate in a very safe 
process, small aircraft to start with and it will build up.
    And it is just like, 20 years from now, it is going to be--
we don't have elevator operators anymore; in smaller aircraft, 
we probably will not have pilots, and it will be done in an 
extremely safe and predictable manner.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you.
    I would like to use the remainder of my time to briefly 
highlight the Duluth International Airport. Duluth provides 
vital service to our region in the north land. Commercial cargo 
and medical service flights utilize the airport. It is home to 
the previously mentioned Cirrus Aircraft and the 148th Fighter 
Wing of the Minnesota Air National Guard, the F-16 unit, making 
the airport crucial to our economic and our national security.
    And the airport supports over 6,000 jobs and contributes 
roughly $760 million annually to our economy. However, the 
Duluth air traffic control tower is currently deteriorating. 
The existing tower is 70 years old. It is the third oldest air 
traffic control tower in the country.
    And it is my hope that the FAA and the next administration 
make investment into this tower a top priority so Duluth can 
sustain air commerce in the region and economic vitality in 
northern Minnesota and throughout our entire State.
    In addition, that air traffic control tower will give us 
the opportunity to get that NextGen aircraft to the 148th 
Fighter Wing. Those men and women are the best of the best.
    Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you, Mr. Stauber. Look, 
before I get started on questions, I am going to recognize 
myself for 5 minutes, but I do want to also thank some of the 
people on our team that have been amazing over the years on 
this committee.
    One person I didn't mention earlier is Maggie Ayrea, our 
deputy chief of staff who has run most of the portfolio, policy 
portfolio for this committee and our office. And Maggie, I want 
to thank you very much. In addition to leading our Washington 
team, she has had two kids and juggled all kinds of things. 
Maggie, we couldn't have done it without you. Thank you very, 
very much. And I really appreciate your friendship, 
partnership. You have been awesome, so, thanks.
    I also want to thank Paul Sawyer, our chief of staff and 
all of the folks on the team that have worked on our 
transportation portfolio. Truly a team. We have a great group 
of folks and couldn't have done it without them.
    Mr. Terreri, I want to ask you a quick question. You 
mentioned earlier the lack of certainty moving forward. Could 
you just very briefly describe why certainty is so important to 
you and to the airports in terms of regulatory certainty, 
numbers and things like that as you move forward?
    Mr. Terreri. So, you are referencing what we talked about 
with the control towers?
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. For example, AIP numbers and 
things like that, just giving you regulatory certainty and 
helping you understand.
    Mr. Terreri. Oh, the funding aspect.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Funding numbers.
    Mr. Terreri. So, right now, as we are going through and 
programming our three 5-year capital plans, and you have to 
prioritize your projects whether it is by safety and there is 
the qualifiers that we have to use, not knowing how much 
funding we have or are going to have available really limits 
our ability to lay out that framework of how are you going to 
develop the airport.
    And in addition to that, what are you actually able to 
afford? Because sometimes some of the larger projects you may 
not be able to afford, so, you go and you break that into some 
smaller projects. So, having that clear look ahead of what we 
know will be coming really does help us plan for the future.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you.
    Mr. Woodworth, the last time you were here, 2023, last 
year, I think things look fundamentally different now than they 
did then. For example, FAA approving your approach to detect 
and avoid and sort of how you approach BVLOS, particularly in 
the DFW area. Can you talk a little bit about how that 
certainty has affected you and perhaps even investment 
decisions in the United States?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, I think it follows a lot of what Mr. 
Terreri was saying. We are a business, we have to make plans 
about, sort of, where we are going to invest our resources. And 
there is a significant opportunity cost that comes with 
uncertainty. Like, if I can't plan out where I will be able to 
grow, what new locations I will be able to go to, it provides 
an immense amount of unpredictability that sort of limits those 
resources. I think that the last year and a half has been a 
great success story for the United States.
    When I was here the last time, the vast majority of our 
operations were happening not in the United States. And today, 
the vast majority of our operations are happening in the United 
States, and they are growing at not an incremental level. I 
think that that is the other big step.
    Whenever you get into a process where the next steps takes, 
sort of, less energy than the previous one, you know that you 
are on a path forward.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. So, if I can paraphrase, 
certainty, predictability, and efficiency attracts investment 
and the opposite repels it to other countries. Is that fair?
    Mr. Woodworth. One hundred percent.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you very much.
    And one other thing in that regard is the NEPA process. 
Once again, certainty, predictability, and efficiency, could 
you talk about briefly some of the scenarios you've seen in 
regard to NEPA and how that may challenge some of your 
operations?
    Mr. Woodworth. Yes, when we first started, everything was 
done on a site-by-site basis. So, if you wanted to be at one 
store and you wanted to go across the street to another store, 
you had to redo the process. That could be 6, 9, 12 months or 
more, with a large unpredictability of when that would come. 
That makes planning expansion very difficult.
    We have seen approaches become more pragmatic first by 
going to across all of DFW and then North Carolina just 
recently did one for a whole State. I think that we are at the 
point now where all of these come back with, sort of, no 
substantive finding, like, we could do one for the whole United 
States. I think that would be a logical next step.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Thank you very much. I appreciate 
it.
    Now, Colonel, I want to ask you, you made mention earlier 
about concern about the 2 to 1. I wanted to give you an 
opportunity to talk a little bit more, meaning 2 to 1 
regulations. I want to talk a little bit more. Look, I'm an 
awful bureaucrat. I can't stand redtape. I like to move 
forward. I like to do things, build things, and make decisions.
    But in the case, for example, with the powered-lift rule, 
can you talk a little bit about how the right regulations 
provide certainty as opposed to, sort of, creating this 
uncertainty and what that does for your members?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, Mr. Chairman. Again, we could not even 
begin to operate these advanced air mobility vehicles without 
an operational rule, because we created what is called a 
powered-lift category. We used to have a category just called 
airplanes fixed-wing/helicopters, but we had nothing in 
powered-lift and the FAA decided to go down a powered-lift 
route without an operation rule, so, we had to do it.
    But what was key is, and this applies very closely to BVLOS 
and how we want to advocate for being able to get this NPRM out 
because once they promulgate the notice of proposed rulemaking 
and allow industry to comment, heretofore until this committee 
put pressure on them, they would go an ex parte and they would 
say, okay, you can't engage industry anymore. And we go, well, 
wait, other Federal agencies don't do it that way.
    And oh, by the way, don't you want us to talk about the 
comments that we made so that we can perfect it? And the proof 
was when the SFAR was released a couple months ago, NSR really 
had a positive reaction to it.
    And we are hoping now if they get the BVLOS SFAR out, the 
industry can comment, but then they allow us--all they have to 
do it docket it and they can say, we had consultation with 
industry and we tried to improve upon it and that is--you all 
have helped us improve this process.
    Mr. Graves of Louisiana. Colonel, thank you. And I just 
want to be clear: so, that certainty or predictability helps to 
foster investments similar to what Mr. Woodworth says, it gives 
you clarity.
    So, with that, I want to thank very much my friend, Mr. 
Carbajal, for indulging us here. And I think it is just a few 
of you left. Whoever is taking over the chair, we owe you all 
about 3 minutes, I am not kidding. So, feel free to be a little 
more liberal.
    And with that, I recognize Mr. Carbajal.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Graves. First of all, before 
you leave, I just want to say thank you for your service. It's 
been a real pleasure working with you. I appreciated the common 
ground we oftentimes found, and I appreciated also jousting 
with you when I disagreed with you. So, good luck, and thank 
you for your service.
    Mr. Terreri, I was successful in including two of my bills 
aimed at dealing with PFAS pollution at the airports in the FAA 
reauthorization that was signed into law. My PFAS Act 
establishes a $350 million reimbursement program for airport 
sponsors to replace PFAS firefighting foam and equipment, and 
my SOAR Act would require periodic reporting from the FAA on 
the transition plan to move away from PFAS. We know PFAS is 
harmful to public health, and we need to move away from it.
    I was glad to have my colleagues Representative Van Orden 
and Representative Lawler help me push for these bipartisan 
provisions. Can you tell us how airports are working with the 
FAA and Congress to ensure these provisions are appropriately 
implemented?
    Mr. Terreri. Yes. So, we are in communication with the FAA 
on what is that process going to look like. What is the 
transition? How is it going to impact the equipment? And so, we 
have been having a lot of open dialogue. I think making sure 
that that communication continues is going to be paramount to 
make sure that this is a smooth transition from the former AFFF 
to the new F3.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Bunce and Mr. Terreri, an issue I continuously hear 
from my constituents deals with airplane noise pollution. My 
district is home to three airports in Santa Barbara and San 
Luis Obispo Counties. While these airports are an important 
piece of our tourism economy, my constituents have raised 
legitimate issues.
    Mr. Bunce, can you talk about new entrants in technologies 
that will help reduce aircraft noise?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, Mr. Carbajal, I mentioned earlier that we 
have the luxury of having this incredible network of 5,000 
public use airports around the country. And if you just look at 
the distance between Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo, you end 
up having, I think, four airports.
    I looked on ForeFlight the other day that we'll be able to 
operate these aircraft out of. And think about now being able 
to take people down to LAX or up to SFO for their long-haul 
flights and then we take away the amount of traffic that are at 
those two airports.
    But with that, in addition to that, our engine companies 
are doing some great work in being able to look at the nacelle, 
which is the structure that surrounds the engine, reforming it 
to reduce the noise signature, but also then looking at what is 
called open-rotor technology where we actually free the blades 
out that reduces noise, too.
    So, whether it is Rolls, GE, Pratt & Whitney, Williams, all 
these companies are really focusing on reducing that noise 
signature. So, I think as we embrace this technology of 
advanced air mobility, we are also going to--traditional 
aviation will be able to make some pretty neat improvements in 
noise mitigation in the years ahead.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Terreri, how are airports working with their local 
communities on mitigation projects and new flightpaths?
    Mr. Terreri. So, the flightpaths are with the FAA air 
traffic control. And when we get complaints, noise complaints, 
I will use Syracuse specifically, when we get noise complaints, 
we will work with the local tower to see if there is anything 
that can be done in terms of aircraft routing.
    Other things that we can look at doing is using 
preferential runways, keeping communities, development, working 
with our local outside the airport zoning boards to make sure 
that they are not putting new communities in the paths of 
flights.
    So, that is some of the stuff that we have done, especially 
as Syracuse has continued to grow, making sure that everyone 
understands the airport, the predominant flightpaths and, kind 
of, what does that mean for our region.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Bunce, across the manufacturing sector, I understand 
there are increasing challenges associated with supply chains.
    The aviation sector is not immune to the difficulties faced 
in sourcing materials and dealing with constraints. Can you 
elaborate on some of the challenges general aviation 
manufacturers are facing today and any recommendations to 
promote stability and support competitiveness?
    Mr. Bunce. Well, sir, supply chain is just not unique to 
general aviation. Our commercial aviation brethren and our 
military are all faced with this dilemma of supply chain. And 
it really is whack-a-mole these days, because when you think 
you have got it fixed.
    I think one of our engine manufacturers mentioned that they 
had to source over 10,000 different new parts and pieces once 
the war in Ukraine happened, once the pandemic happened. 
Because a lot of the small mom and pops that were providing 
parts and pieces, small structures, forgings and castings, have 
gone away. And they just haven't been sustainable, whether the 
workforce has aged out or they are working from home. 
Manufacturing has really taken a hit, that impacts our supply 
chain.
    So, I am hoping that we put a focus as a Nation on supply 
chain. We have got to have an independence from some of the 
vulnerable pieces of the supply chain. We all saw recently 
China has restricted some of the precious metals that are very 
important to aerospace, and we are going to have to find 
different sources for that.
    But supply chain is critical and it has got to be an 
industrial policy for this Nation that also helps the Federal 
Government to look at supply chain and be able to try and fix 
this.
    What we relied on before in the pandemic was called just in 
time. We didn't have to keep large inventories and everything 
because it was just delivered when we needed from a global 
structure. That is gone now, and it is a new paradigm for all 
of us.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Mr. Perry [presiding]. The Chair thanks the gentleman.
    The Chair now recognizes the gentlelady from the District 
of Columbia, Ms. Norton.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As a cochair of the 
Quiet Skies Caucus and the Member who represents the District 
of Columbia, which is plagued by airplane and helicopter noise, 
I am pleased we would be able to get noise provisions included 
in the FAA reauthorization of 2024. Under this law, the FAA has 
a mandate to do more to combat aviation noise and to engage 
more with affected communities.
    Mr. Bunce, in your testimony, you mentioned that the 
General Aviation Manufacturers Association and the companies it 
represents are developing electric and hybrid-propelled 
vertical takeoff and landing aircraft. Would you describe the 
impact that this technology could have on reducing air aviation 
noise, particularly for airports, adjacent communities to 
airports?
    Mr. Bunce. Yes, ma'am. As we looked to this technology, one 
of our companies just flew its first production aircraft. And 
basically, it was outfitted the way it is going to be delivered 
to one of the cargo carriers. And the pilot was up there, and 
he actually is the owner of the company, he just said, it is 
like flying a sailplane. You can't hear these vehicles.
    And so, if we put it in the context of Washington, DC, here 
where we live, we listen to a lot of noise all the time, but 
these vehicles will be able to disperse the concentration in 
traffic, take it out to all of the airports that ring this 
city, which will help us. But also, we can't forget about the 
technology that with new techniques and air traffic control 
that allow aircraft, aircraft that are taking off from Reagan 
for instance, to climb faster so that it reduces that noise 
footprint because it has a larger ascent and the noise reduces 
as it climbs faster.
    But also, you can power back on your descent if you can get 
a controlled continuous descent down the landing. And so, a lot 
of this technology is all tied together in being able to reduce 
noise when we use the airspace efficiently, but also use the 
network of airports.
    But you would be amazed if you were able just to see these 
new types of advanced air mobility aircraft fly, because you 
are looking at them and you might hear a hum, but it is 
something that is no more than what we would hear on normal 
street traffic. It is amazing.
    Ms. Norton. That sounds excellent.
    Mr. Regan, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 includes a 
provision requiring the FAA Administrator to implement new 
flight procedures and establish or modify aircraft arrival and 
departure routes for the purposes of reducing aviation noise in 
neighboring communities. Do pilots have sufficient resources 
and training to safely perform new procedures and fly routes 
that minimize noise impact in airports' adjacent communities? 
And if not, what can Congress do to ensure that pilots have 
what they need?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you. Our pilots--our country's pilots are 
certainly--I mean, they are the best trained in the world. They 
are going to be able to handle new procedures to address things 
like air noise pollution. But that is as long as Congress 
maintains those high standards. And we have seen a lot of 
efforts over the past--this is my third FAA bill I have done at 
TTD, and every single one, we have had to fight back against 
efforts to reduce pilot training and certification standards, 
and that would be a dangerous and, I think, shortsighted 
approach to meeting the newer challenges that are approaching 
pilots and the aviation system broadly, including reducing 
noise pollution.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you very much, and I yield back.
    Mr. Perry. The chairman thanks the gentlelady. The chairman 
now recognizes Representative Mann.
    Mr. Mann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
associate myself with the positive remarks towards honoring 
Chairman Graves. He is a good friend, and he will be missed.
    Thank you all for being here today. I represent the Big 
First district of Kansas. Aviation is a critical industry in 
the State of Kansas with roughly 100 general aviation airports, 
several commercial and regional airports, and a huge footprint 
in aviation and aerospace manufacturing. The FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 included critical provisions to 
ensure that our aviation industries are able to improve 
services, bolster our workforce, and promote American 
manufacturing and innovation. That is why it is crucial that 
the FAA and DOT waste no time in implementing the provisions 
set forth in the bill so that the aviation industry can 
continue to get to work.
    Just a handful of quick questions. First for you, Mr. 
Terreri. My district has 60 primarily rural counties and we 
depend on reliable air services to connect to the rest of the 
world. Please speak to the importance of certain provisions in 
reauthorization like the Airport Improvement Program and new 
aircraft innovation that are critical to ensuring that all 
communities can access air service.
    Mr. Terreri. So, I think one of the biggest benefits is we 
have started to really bring forward advanced air mobility, and 
what you are seeing, and where the airlines and you have seen a 
reduction in services to smaller communities that used to have 
air service; now, using advanced air mobility, that is a 
feasible business model. It can actually work to fill that gap 
as airlines start to consolidate in.
    So, in this bill, starting to lay the groundwork for 
advanced air mobility and integrating into airports and into 
airspace, that is going to be key, and then on the airport 
side, the additional funding allowing--this is going to be a 
different type of infrastructure, so, allowing now to build the 
proper infrastructure that is needed to support these smaller 
communities that ultimately need access to the airspace system.
    Mr. Mann. I agree. Thank you.
    Next question for you, Mr. Bunce. You rightly highlighted 
the importance of FAA and industry workforce efforts in the 
correlation between technical expertise and then oversight. As 
a proponent of the manufacturing workforce program, please 
elaborate on how this would further innovation competitiveness, 
but also safety.
    Mr. Bunce. Well, sir, as you know, Kansas is one of our 
centers of excellence for aviation. It is not lost on anyone, 
we have the aircraft world in Wichita, but also throughout the 
State we have a tremendous supply base. The institutions of 
learning in Kansas have really tried to develop whether it is 
up in Salina or Wichita State, NIAR, all of these different 
great places where we are taking young people and training 
them, but we've got to keep that feedstock going, and I think 
that is where, if we can get the appropriations and the money 
toward the manufacturing side, it really does help us keep the 
leadership that we need in the world.
    The programs that are developed, I am very familiar with 
the one in Wichita State where they are taking young people 
that are coming out of the military at McConnell Air Force 
Base, and being able to then have an apprentice program with 
our companies that surround Wichita, and so, they are able to 
make a living while they are going to school getting their 
ratings that they need from the FAA to be able to enter and do 
the manufacturing and maintenance. It is a fantastic program, 
and it should be a model for what we can do throughout the 
Nation.
    Mr. Mann. I agree. Great for veterans. Great for the 
industry. Great for everybody. One last quick question. From an 
FAA perspective, why are knowledge-sharing opportunities with 
industry so important? I think we often think about the 
industry standpoint, but from FAA's perspective, why is that 
critical?
    Mr. Bunce. Sir, I mentioned earlier that we are filling a 
great pool of experience that left the FAA due to retirement 
and aging out, or we in the industry, we pay them more, we hire 
them away. And so, we have got a bunch of young people in 
there, and the young people are ready to go. They want to 
learn. They want to apply the skills that they learned in 
college, but they don't have that ability to draw on the 
expertise that they used to.
    And so, what we are doing, and the FAA supported us through 
the help of this committee to be able to go and do these skills 
enhancement training where we will take them to our factories 
and we will have them sit down with the engineers and be able 
to say, this is how we do it here. Or we host conferences.
    We at GAMA just hosted a battery conference. Lithium-ion 
batteries, we all know about the potential for thermal runaway 
and a fire. That is why we have the procedures when we go on 
the aircraft.
    But there are new ways to be able to mitigate that, and we 
need to be able to teach new people in the FAA what modern 
technology allows us to make it very safe, that you can fly 
these in the unmanned vehicles, and also, in the advanced air 
mobility vehicles, so, this is absolutely critical for this 
knowledge transfer that it goes from industry to Government, 
but then also, Government can say, this is how I will approach 
regulating this, and it allows us to have that confidence in 
relationship building back and forth to make the system work.
    Mr. Mann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Perry. The Chair thanks the gentleman. The Chair now 
recognizes himself for a period of questioning.
    Mr. Terreri, I know that you have answered multiple 
questions on the firefighting foam, but I have got a few more 
of my own. So, I think in your testimony you referenced the 
forced transition from aqueous-film forming foam, or the AFFF, 
to fluorine-free foam, F3, and the desire of airports to 
receive funding to assist with the costly transition and to 
avoid CERCLA liability for discharge of a firefighting foam 
that was federally mandated.
    And so, while the EPA has issued an administrative policy 
that it does not intend to pursue entities like airports, I 
think it is important that Congress provide certainty to 
airports that they will not be held liable in these 
circumstances. As we know, administrations change, viewpoints 
change. What is not palatable today becomes palatable tomorrow. 
But more importantly, according to the Naval Research 
Laboratory, AFFF creates both a film and a foam blanket that 
remains stable longer and is more effective than foams that do 
not contain the current list of chemicals. In other words, the 
AFFF is more effective than its alternatives as we currently 
know them.
    Other observations from the Naval Research Laboratory are 
that F3s are less forgiving than AFFF and require more precise 
application due to the absence of the aqueous film. Fluorine-
free films can be optimized using aspirated nozzles that 
improve the blanketing effect, but this application is 
difficult around obstacles like the thing that is on fire, like 
an airplane with people in it, and across far distances, 
because heaven knows, the first thing we all want to do is run 
head-long into a fire, right?
    F3s require a less-aggressive application so that the foam 
does not get mixed into the fuel source, and itself burn, 
which, like, I just kind of think about the implications of 
that. You are a firefighter. People are trying to get off of a 
burning airplane. You have got to be careful because the 
firefighting foam might catch on fire, right? That is kind of 
mind-blowing, actually.
    Environmental conditions, such as wind at an airport, 
right? Windsocks are at--we are--as aviators, the wind is an 
important factor, ever present, almost always, but the wind may 
cause holes to open up in the F3 blanket. You can imagine what 
that creates.
    And, of course, repeat applications or passes may be 
required to effectively extinguish a fire, which isn't helpful 
either. So, the GAO also identified concerns about the 
performance of alternative foams in temperature extremes. You 
know, that burning stuff is hot. You get the plastic seats and 
the foam, et cetera.
    I certainly understand the concerns surrounding the 
potential contamination issue with AFFF. We have been dealing 
with that here. It is very alarming that we are rushing to a 
transition at taxpayers' expense without an alternative of 
comparable performance. I get the concerns, and maybe we should 
minimize practice and some things like that, or practice with 
something lesser, just for the sake of practice. But just 
running head-long into a less effective alternative and forcing 
everybody to pay for it, not providing the liability 
protection, I think, is shortsighted.
    Do you know how the airports plan to address the 
performance gap, and what would you recommend be done to 
address the concerns of the flying public that doesn't want to 
burn alive in an aircraft when this alternative foam is not as 
effective? It is just not as effective, right? Do you have some 
recommendations?
    Mr. Terreri. Well, I think definitely with the new product, 
there is training that is taking place. That is what is 
happening at the FAA tech center along with the ARFF Working 
Groups to really understand how this chemical and this 
component can be used and should be used in its application. It 
is definitely different than AFFF, but that is something that 
the industry professionals are all looking at to make sure that 
in the event it has to be deployed, it is done in a safe manner 
to protect anyone who is on that aircraft.
    Mr. Perry. Would you--do you believe we should be forcing 
the transition until we know what the performance concerns are 
and what all the potential alternatives might be to be as 
effective as the current firefighting applications?
    Mr. Terreri. Forcing--well, with the FAA having required 
us----
    Mr. Perry [interrupting]. I mean, you are kind of the 
expert here, right? And so, your voice matters. So, we are 
saying, we have this problem over here, we want to fix it, but 
let's just do whatever we got to do to deal with this problem, 
which might create a whole other problem, which includes people 
trying to get off a burning aircraft that can't be put out 
because--that is where we are. You have got to say it the way 
it is. So, I am just wondering if you agree with our current 
approach?
    Mr. Terreri. Well, I agree that with this new--the testing 
that is being done on the new product, it gets applied to the 
aircraft, right? That they have process and policy on how it is 
applied so that it is an alternative----
    Mr. Perry [interrupting]. We are implementing enforcing the 
implementation, right? Before the testing is complete. Is that 
good or not good?
    Mr. Terreri. I have to know a little bit more about it. In 
the firefighting foam, I guess the unique differences that you 
are really speaking to here, because I am not an ARFF expert. I 
am not a firefighting and chemical expert on their 
extinguishing agents.
    Mr. Perry. Okay. The Chair thanks the gentleman. The Chair 
now recognizes the gentleman from New Jersey.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank 
you to our witnesses for being here today. I want to thank 
Chairman Sam Graves, Chairman Garret Graves, Ranking Members 
Larsen and Cohen for their work in passing this critical 
legislation. I am pleased to work alongside them, all the 
members of this committee, to produce and pass this bipartisan 
FAA reauthorization.
    Now, this committee faces the critical task of conducting 
oversight on its implementation. It must ensure that these 
important mandates addressing safety and passenger experience, 
spurring innovation and workforce growth, and cementing our 
commercial and general aviation sectors' place as a world's 
gold standard are realized.
    Mr. Terreri, as you may know, my district in central and 
northwest New Jersey has been the epicenter of unexplained 
drone sightings over the last number of weeks. What advice 
would you give to the FAA to modernize and to adapt to this 
emerging technology, particularly with regards to airports and 
places of interest like stadiums and governmental sites?
    Mr. Terreri. Thank you. So, Syracuse Airport, we were one 
of the five airports that were selected to be part of the FAA's 
drone detection mitigation program, and out of that they tested 
different technologies that could detect drone activity in and 
around the airport. One of the things that we have done in 
Syracuse is we have formed the center of excellence for 
advanced air mobility and what we call the new air alliance 
where we actually now have a higher visibility and enhanced 
visibility on drone activity in and around the airport in 
Syracuse.
    We have hosted the advanced--sorry, we have hosted the 
Department of Homeland Security, the Under Secretary. We have 
signed an MOA with the Under Secretary to help using our 
technologies to do drone detection, so, there are systems that 
are out right now that can help detect.
    The challenge that we have is that, if I detect a drone 
over my airport, I have no ability to do anything about it. The 
FAA, because this technology is not FAA technology, it can't be 
in the tower, so, the FAA doesn't have the same visibility that 
we do as the airport on drones over our airports.
    So, there are a couple things that can be done here, and it 
really just becomes some of that--a lot more coordination and 
collaboration of what we are seeing in the private sector into 
the FAA to solve some of these.
    On the issue of enforcement, if an operator is off the 
airport, who is responsible for that? I am not allowed to take 
a drone, do any kind of mitigation drone over our airport. 
There is nothing I can do about it. Is it local law 
enforcement? Who has the authority to mitigate the drones once 
you have detected one?
    We can detect them. What do you do with it? That is the 
question that needs to get answered.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. People across the country are 
asking that very question. Thank you.
    Mr. Regan, as you note in your testimony, the 2024 
reauthorization took steps to address mental health procedures 
among pilots and in the aviation industry, which is an issue I 
have heard many concerns about. However, the Biden 
administration's interpretation of these sections is unclear. 
In your opinion, what initiatives should the FAA take to 
clarify this element of the law, and to address mental health 
challenges for pilots, mechanics, and controllers?
    Mr. Regan. Thank you for the question. I think that the 
first step is starting--I think in many industries, including 
aviation where we have safety-sensitive responsibilities, 
whether you be a pilot or controller or maintenance worker, I 
think the acceptance and treatment of mental health conditions 
has lagged behind the broader country when it comes to 
recognition that this is a health problem that can be addressed 
through treatment and with the right resources we can support 
people and see them through that challenge.
    Until we acknowledge that, and that people are not held at 
fault, at risking their jobs because they are seeking help for 
something that they are going through, then we are not going to 
be able to adequately address the problem. And so, we need to 
be able to clearly establish the health aspect of this and 
treat it as such as opposed to the stigmatization that we have 
seen in the past around these issues.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Thank you.
    Mr. Bunce, this committee in the House will address various 
workforce challenges during our hearings and in the final 
reauthorization, particularly in terms of acquiring and 
maintaining the expertise necessary to certify new 
technologies, such as unmanned aerial systems and advanced air 
mobility technology. In your estimation, how is the FAA 
progressing on implementation of these rules to help the 
aviation industry?
    Mr. Bunce. Continue on, sir, with a program that they have 
for the knowledge. Basically, the experience of being able to 
get with industry, and being able to share that knowledge. 
Again, I think the FAA has done a great job in trying to 
attract young people, and quite frankly, that is who you are 
going to attract at the wage level that you have available to 
the FAA.
    We in the industry are always going to be able to pay 
engineers more and young people more, but it is a great 
building ground for them to go into Government and be able to 
learn how to be a regulator, because they become very valuable 
to us in the industry. But we have to give them the experience. 
And the only way that they are going to do that is if we have 
this knowledge-sharing, and get them on the road and learn 
about the new technologies out there and learn from the 
experience that we have resident in U.S. industry.
    That is probably the only way we will be able to do it, and 
I do compliment the FAA for taking this seriously, going and 
making the budgetary moves within their internal budget to be 
able to get people on the road. And a lot of times, we in 
industry will come to the FAA also and provide seminars and 
that for them on this new technology, but that is the only way 
it will work. And that is why it is vitally important for us to 
continue on to be able to feed the FAA and feed the industry 
with young people through the workforce development grants that 
we need the appropriators to fund.
    Mr. Kean of New Jersey. Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Perry. Thank you. The gentleman yields. Are there 
further questions from any members of the subcommittee who have 
not yet been recognized? Seeing none, I do want to make just a 
comment regarding my colleague Mr. Graves. While I must take 
exception to--well, let me just say this: I have always enjoyed 
our spirited conversations, especially the ones where I have 
been right, which is most of them when it concerns Mr. Graves, 
but I do wish him all the best, and I am sure we will see him 
more, and the same thing for him and his family.
    All right. Seeing no other questions, that concludes our 
hearing for today. I would like to thank each of our witnesses 
for your testimony and your time here today. This subcommittee 
stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:19 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]



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   Question to Jason Terreri, Executive Director, Syracuse Regional 
  Airport Authority, on behalf of the Airports Council International-
           North America (ACI-NA), from Hon. Brandon Williams

    Question 1. Mr. Terreri, in the FAA Reauthorization bill we enacted 
earlier this year, Congress directed the FAA to restore the waterfall 
for Terminal Flight Data Manager to not less than 89 airports. This 
provision was necessary as the FAA had previously reduced that 
waterfall from 89 to 49 airports, including removing the Syracuse 
airport. Since then, the FAA has not released an updated waterfall of 
which 40 additional airports will receive this important technology.
    Can you explain the importance of the FAA moving forward with this 
directive and how airports benefit from the implementation of 
technologies like TFDM?
    Answer. Airport operators were encouraged to see the possible 
extension of the FAA's Terminal Flight Data Manager (TFDM) program to 
additional airports in Paragraph 619 (e) of the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024. Terminal Flight Data Manager (TFDM) is a key component of 
FAA's NextGen Airspace Modernization Program and the most significant 
component of the NextGen program that addresses aircraft surface 
management at airports.
    The program has two distinct versions--or ``configurations''--as 
the FAA has termed them. The foundational version--Configuration B--
enables decades-old paper flight strips to be replaced by electronic 
flight strips. These electronic flight strips enable more efficient 
digital monitoring and sequencing of aircraft operations by air traffic 
controllers in FAA airport traffic control towers (ATCTs). They also 
facilitate more efficient and accurate data exchange with flight 
operators, including airlines and general aviation pilots, allow for 
real-time updates of flight information, and enable better 
collaborative decision-making between air traffic controllers and 
flight operators.
    The more advanced version--Configuration A--included electronic 
flight strips but also adds dynamic departure scheduling and metering 
capabilities. Conceptually, these capabilities will enable air traffic 
controllers--working in collaboration with airlines and in some cases 
airport operators--to reduce departure congestion and improve 
collaborative departure sequence management in cases like poor weather 
when airport departure capacity is reduced.
    Airports have been supportive of TFDM Configuration B 
implementation, which help busy ATCT controllers manage airport ground 
operations more efficiently and effectively. It also provides critical 
foundational elements for collaborative management of ground operations 
into the future. We have also been supportive of targeted 
implementation of Configuration A at locations where flight operators 
have indicated an intent to utilize the departure sequencing 
capabilities TFDM would provide.

Question to Adam Woodworth, Chief Executive Officer, Wing Aviation LLC, 
                          from Hon. Dina Titus

    Question 1. In your testimony, you highlighted the progress Wing 
has made receiving approval for Beyond Visual Line of Sight (BVLOS) 
operations. And you are not alone. Just this week the LVMPD's UAS 
program received approval to conduct BVLOS operations which will help 
improve public safety. These are steps in the right direction, but I 
have concerns that we may still fall behind other countries when it 
comes to drone competitiveness. As you know, I worked with my Drone 
Caucus Co-Chair Rep. Garret Graves on language to establish a national 
BVLOS framework, but this proposed rule is behind schedule. That's why 
I joined many of my colleagues on this committee calling on the DOT to 
issue a proposed rulemaking right away.
    If this rulemaking continues to fall behind schedule, what will the 
implications be for the domestic drone industry and its 
competitiveness?
    Answer. The United States is currently in a global competition with 
our peers to safely and efficiently integrate drone operations with 
traditional aviation. While the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
has approved a number of beyond visual line of sight (BVLOS) operations 
under exemptions and waivers, the United States lacks a national 
regulatory or policy framework for BVLOS operations that will establish 
new safety and certification criteria and remove current impediments. 
The FAA recognizes that routine BVLOS drone operations are an essential 
next step and as a result empaneled an Aviation Rulemaking Committee 
(ARC) that submitted a nearly 400 page report that provided a specific 
roadmap for a regulatory framework. The U.S. drone industry is now 
mature enough to enable safe integration into both the national 
airspace and our communities at scale. For example, Wing now has nearly 
two dozen operating sites in Dallas-Fort Worth and continues to grow 
there, with key technological advances now approved by the FAA that 
allow us to safely fly true BVLOS without visual observers.
    The biggest challenge we face right now is ensuring that the 
regulatory framework for drones locks in recent progress--particularly 
on airworthiness approval processes for aircraft changes--and continues 
to advance highly automated safe operations. Importantly, that 
framework must be established without losing momentum from the great 
progress on approval processes implemented over the last two years, 
commonly referred to as the Criteria for Making Determinations or 
``CMD'' but even that method could still stand to be improved. The 
BVLOS rulemaking that your legislation directed the FAA to develop is 
critical to establishing that national framework, and we are eager for 
the FAA to publish the draft rule they have in hand so we can move to 
the important review and comment period.
    After years of investing overseas due to a better regulatory 
environment, Wing is ready to make significant investments in the 
United States to scale up our service here in the US. In order to take 
that step, we need the FAA to complete their transition from a 
patchwork web of waivers and exemptions to a consolidated and 
consistent regulatory framework based in codified rulemaking. That 
starts with publishing the draft rule that the FAA has ready for public 
review. Until that happens, we cannot comment on this important 
enabling regulation, and key steps enabling drone delivery at scale 
still face significant delays. BVLOS flights have the potential to 
deliver numerous societal benefits that include enhancing the economy, 
reducing congestion, and serving a broader range of people. And the FAA 
and the Department of Transportation should move expeditiously in 
moving that framework forward into public view.
    If the U.S. fails to publish a workable BVLOS framework for comment 
and ultimately for finalization soon, we risk American drone industry 
leaders again turning to opportunities overseas to grow their 
businesses, or worse yet, stagnation or reduced investment in American 
development. And without a robust and healthy domestic drone industry, 
the American public will be deprived of the benefits mentioned above, 
our citizens will fail to benefit from the growth and development 
opportunities of this promising industry, and other countries could 
reap the economic, societal, and technological rewards that come with 
being a true leader in the drone sector.
    Now is the time for the US to shape policy at a global level as we 
strive to create an optimal regulatory environment for US expansion, 
both domestically and in other jurisdictions, in which we provide 
right-sized frameworks, consistency, and certainty for the American 
commercial drone industry.

 Question to Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades Department, 
                  AFL-CIO (TTD), from Hon. Dina Titus

    Question 1. Frontline workers have suffered verbal abuse and 
physical assaults at the hands of unruly travelers. According to FAA 
data last updated on December 1, there have been 1,921 unruly passenger 
reports. While this is a marked improvement from calendar year 2021 
(5,973), it still represents an increase from calendar year 2019 
(1,161). Along with many of my colleagues, I fought to ensure the 
bipartisan FAA Reauthorization bill included multiple provisions to 
combat assaults at the airport and in-flight. Unfortunately, many of 
deadlines for implementing these provisions are now overdue.
    How has the rise in assaults impacted recruitment and retention of 
your frontline workforce, and why is it important that these provisions 
be properly implemented soon?
    Answer. A number of these assaults are recorded and go viral or are 
on the nightly news. They certainly affect recruitment and retention, 
particularly if these workers do not feel backed up by the carrier. 
These provisions must be implemented soon to ensure the training 
workers receive meets defined minimums. Crucially, many of these pro-
worker provisions require workers' designated labor representatives to 
be consulted or seated on a task force. Workers' duly elected labor 
representatives are best positioned to address any gaps in training.

 Questions to Greg Regan, President, Transportation Trades Department, 
            AFL-CIO (TTD), from Hon. Christopher R. Deluzio

    Question 1. Pittsburgh International Airport in my district is an 
overhaul maintenance base for American Airlines. More than 400 FAA-
certified aircraft mechanics work there under the industry-leading 
union contract. That contract, negotiated by the Transportation Workers 
Union and the Machinists, requires a super-majority of airline 
maintenance work to be performed in the U.S. by union members. 
Unfortunately, our own government has undermined great contracts like 
this by actively encouraging airlines to offshore mechanic jobs onto 
lower safety standards at FAA-certified facilities abroad. Congress 
directed the FAA to close all of these incentives as part of the 2024 
reauthorization bill, but so far, the agency has made very little 
progress.
    Mr. Regan, you mention the importance of reshoring aircraft 
maintenance jobs as part of your testimony. Can you share the scale of 
this issue--how many more jobs could and should be in the U.S. if the 
FAA closed its loopholes that encourage airlines to offshore this work?
    Answer. U.S. airlines now employ 20,000 fewer mechanics than in 
2000. Some jobs were lost due to consolidation, but most have gone 
abroad. More than half of all mechanics globally working at FAA-
certified facilities are outside of the U.S. Every 1% increase in the 
proportion of work performed here creates nearly 3,000 good-paying 
mechanic jobs. Keep in mind these are U.S. aircraft based in the U.S. 
They are being flown abroad for the explicit purpose of offshoring this 
work. There are no supply chain or other concerns here--the airlines 
could reshore nearly all of this work tomorrow if they wanted to.

    Question 2. Mr. Regan, back to you, one of these largest loopholes 
allows FAA-certified facilities outside of the U.S. to use uncertified 
mechanics--people with no license and no training--to repair, maintain, 
and overhaul U.S.-flagged aircraft. Over here, U.S.-based mechanics are 
required to both pass several tests and work in their fields for at 
least 18 months prior to repairing these aircraft.
    Is this safe? And is it fair to U.S. workers who are now competing 
against these unlicensed workers abroad?
    Answer. Transportation labor has consistently advocated for uniform 
safety and security standards across all facilities that perform 
maintenance on U.S. aircraft. Maintenance facilities, regardless of 
their location, should adhere to the same rigorous safety standards as 
domestic repair stations to prevent lapses in oversight. Establishing 
minimum qualifications for mechanics and other maintenance workers is 
essential to ensure that only highly trained professionals are 
responsible for critical maintenance tasks, safeguarding U.S. aviation 
operations' integrity. Having lower training standards for mechanics 
based outside the U.S. has led airlines to hire more mechanics 
internationally. This trend is evident from airlines offshoring heavy 
maintenance work; even small incentives can drive profit-focused 
businesses to move jobs overseas to cut costs. We urge the FAA to 
consider expanding regulations to include part 121 air carrier-employed 
maintenance personnel located abroad in a future rulemaking.