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RESPONDING TO AMERICA'S OVERDOSE CRISIS: AN EXAMINATION OF LEGISLATION 
                     TO BUILD UPON THE SUPPORT ACT

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                                HEARING

                               BEFORE THE

                         SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH

                                 OF THE

                    COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                             JUNE 21, 2023

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                           Serial No. 118-50
                           
                           
                           
  

                         
                           
                           
                           


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                    COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE

                   CATHY McMORRIS RODGERS, Washington
                                  Chair
MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas            FRANK PALLONE, Jr., New Jersey
ROBERT E. LATTA, Ohio                  Ranking Member
BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky              ANNA G. ESHOO, California
H. MORGAN GRIFFITH, Virginia         DIANA DeGETTE, Colorado
GUS M. BILIRAKIS, Florida            JAN SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois
BILL JOHNSON, Ohio                   DORIS O. MATSUI, California
LARRY BUCSHON, Indiana               KATHY CASTOR, Florida
RICHARD HUDSON, North Carolina       JOHN P. SARBANES, Maryland
TIM WALBERG, Michigan                PAUL TONKO, New York
EARL L. ``BUDDY'' CARTER, Georgia    YVETTE D. CLARKE, New York
JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina          TONY CARDENAS, California
GARY J. PALMER, Alabama              RAUL RUIZ, California
NEAL P. DUNN, Florida                SCOTT H. PETERS, California
JOHN R. CURTIS, Utah                 DEBBIE DINGELL, Michigan
DEBBBIE LESKO, Arizona               MARC A. VEASEY, Texas
GREG PENCE, Indiana                  ANN M. KUSTER, New Hampshire
DAN CRENSHAW, Texas                  ROBIN L. KELLY, Illinois
JOHN JOYCE, Pennsylvania             NANETTE DIAZ BARRAGAN, California
KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota, Vice  LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
    Chair                            DARREN SOTO, Florida
RANDY K. WEBER, Sr., Texas           ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota
RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia               KIM SCHRIER, Washington
TROY BALDERSON, Ohio                 LORI TRAHAN, Massachusetts
RUSS FULCHER, Idaho                  LIZZIE FLETCHER, Texas
AUGUST PFLUGER, Texas
DIANA HARSHBARGER, Tennessee
MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa
KAT CAMMACK, Florida
JAY OBERNOLTE, California
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                           Professional Staff

                      NATE HODSON, Staff Director
                   SARAH BURKE, Deputy Staff Director
               TIFFANY GUARASCIO, Minority Staff Director
                         Subcommittee on Health

                        BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky
                                 Chairman
MICHAEL C. BURGESS, Texas            ANNA G. ESHOO, California
ROBERT E. LATTA, Ohio                  Ranking Member
H. MORGAN GRIFFITH, Virginia         JOHN P. SARBANES, Maryland
GUS M. BILIRAKIS, Florida            TONY CARDENAS, California
BILL JOHNSON, Ohio                   RAUL RUIZ, California
LARRY BUCSHON, Indiana, Vice Chair   DEBBIE DINGELL, Michigan
RICHARD HUDSON, North Carolina       ANN M. KUSTER, New Hampshire
EARL L. ``BUDDY'' CARTER, Georgia    ROBIN L. KELLY, Illinois
NEAL P. DUNN, Florida                NANETTE DIAZ BARRAGAN, California
GREG PENCE, Indiana                  LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
DAN CRENSHAW, Texas                  ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota
JOHN JOYCE, Pennsylvania             KIM SCHRIER, Washington
DIANA HARSHBARGER, Tennessee         LORI TRAHAN, Massachusetts
MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa       FRANK PALLONE, Jr., New Jersey (ex 
JAY OBERNOLTE, California                officio)
CATHY McMORRIS RODGERS, Washington 
    (ex officio)
                             C O N T E N T S

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                                                                   Page
Hon. Brett Guthrie, a Representative in Congress from the 
  Commonwealth of Kentucky, opening statement....................     1
    Prepared statement...........................................     4
Hon. Anna G. Eshoo, a Representative in Congress from the State 
  of California, opening statement...............................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................     8
Hon. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, a Representative in Congress from 
  the State of Washington, opening statement.....................    10
    Prepared statement...........................................    12
Hon. Frank Pallone, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the 
  State of New Jersey, opening statement.........................    16
    Prepared statement...........................................    18

                               Witnesses

Matthew Strait, Deputy Assistant Administrator, Diversion Control 
  Division, Drug Enforcement Administration, Department of 
  Justice........................................................    20
    Prepared statement...........................................    23
    Submitted questions for the record \1\.......................   204
Christopher M. Jones, Phar.D., D.P.H., Director, National Center 
  for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control 
  and Prevention, Department of Health and Human Services........    30
    Prepared statement...........................................    32
    Answers to submitted questions...............................   206
Tom Coderre, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Mental Health 
  and Substance Use, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services 
  Administration, Department of Health and Human Services........    44
    Prepared statement...........................................    46
    Answers to submitted questions...............................   208
Diana Espinosa, Principal Deputy Administrator, Health Resources 
  and Services Administration, Department of Health and Human 
  Services.......................................................    69
    Prepared statement...........................................    70
    Answers to submitted questions...............................   213
Jonathan Blum, Principal Deputy Administrator and Chief Operating 
  Officer, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, Department 
  of Health and Human Services...................................    69
    Prepared statement...........................................    70
    Answers to submitted questions...............................   217

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\1\ Mr. Strait did not answer submitted questions for the record by the 
time of publication. Replies received after publication will be 
retained in committee files and made available at https://
docs.house.gov/Committee/Calendar/ByEvent.aspx?EventID=116156.

                            Legislation \2\

H.R. 824, the Telehealth Benefit Expansion for Workers Act of 
  2023
H.R. 3892, the Improving Mental Health and Drug Treatment Act
H.R. 4091, the Combatting Substance Use Disorder Act
H.R. 3736, the Extending Access to Addiction Treatment Act
H.R. 4096, A bill to amend title XIX of the Social Security Act 
  to expand the application of Medicaid State programs to monitor 
  antipsychotic medications to all Medicaid beneficiaries
H.R. 4056, the Ensuring Medicaid Continuity for Children in 
  Foster Care Act of 2023
H.R. 3074, the Due Process Continuity of Care Act
H.R. 2400, the Reentry Act of 2023
H.R. 4089, the Safer Response Act
H.R. 4063, the FIND Fentanyl Act of 2023
H.R. 4079, the Substance Use Disorder Treatment and Recovery Loan 
  Repayment Program Reauthorization Act of 2023
H.R. 4100, To amend the Public Health Service Act to reauthorize 
  a monitoring and education program regarding infections 
  associated with illicit drug use and other risk factors
H.R. 4101, the Road to Recovery Act
H.R. 4099, the RECONNECTS Act of 2023
H.R. 4088, the CAREER Act
H.R. 1502, the Comprehensive Opioid Recovery Centers 
  Reauthorization Act of 2023
H.R. 4098, the Communities of Recovery Reauthorization Act
H.R. 4095, the Save Children from Trauma Act
H.R. 4097, the Mental Health Improvement Act
H.R. 1839, the Combating Illicit Xylazine Act
H.R. 4053, the Studying Suboxone Act
H.R. ___, To amend the 21st Century Cures Act to expressly 
  authorize the use of certain grants to implement substance use 
  disorder and overdose prevention activities with respect to 
  fentanyl and xylazine test strips
H.R. 4057, the Keeping Kids Safe Act
H.R. 4080, the Trauma-Informed Care Task Force Reauthorization 
  Act of 2023
H.R. 4092, the Protecting Moms and Infants Reauthorization Act
H.R. 4054, the Trauma Support and Mental Health in Schools 
  Reauthorization Act
H.R. 4093, the Remote Opioid Monitoring Act of 2023
H.R. 4007, the HEAL Act

                           Submitted Material

Inclusion of the following was approved by unanimous consent.
List of documents submitted for the record.......................   134
Letter of May 18, 2023, from the National Association of 
  Attorneys General, to Rep. Kevin McCarthy, et al...............   135
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Lori Teller, President, American 
  Veterinary Medical Association, et al., to Rep. Dick Durbin, et 
  al.............................................................   142
Letter of June 21, 2023, from National Association for Children's 
  Behavioral Health Board of Directors, Policy Committee, to Mr. 
  Bilirakis and Ms. Castor.......................................   146
Statement of Neely Frye, Director of Government Affairs, 
  Braeburn, June 21, 2023........................................   148
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Elizabeth Hancq, Director of 
  Research, and Lisa Daily, Executive Director, Treatment 
  Advocacy Center, to Mr. Burgess and Rep. Ritchie Torres........   152
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Andrew Hu, Director, Bipartisan 
  Policy Center Action, to Mrs. Rodgers, et al...................   153
Letter of June 15, 2023, from Brian M. Hepburn, Executive 
  Director, National Association of State Mental Health Program 
  Directors, to Mr. Burgess and Rep. Ritchie Torres..............   157

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\2\ The bills have been retained in committee files and are available 
at https://docs.house.gov/Committee/Calendar/
ByEvent.aspx?EventID=116156.
Letter of June 21, 2023, from Gordon Lavigne, Chief Executive 
  Officer, Schizophrenia & Psychosis Action Alliance, to Mr. 
  Burgess and Rep. Ritchie Torres................................   158
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Jonathan Wolf, Chief Executive 
  Officer, Pyramid Healthcare, to Mrs. Rodgers, et al............   160
Letter of May 31, 2023, from American Academy of Addiction 
  Psychiatry, et al., to Senator Bill Cassidy, et al.............   163
Letter of April 26, 2023, from Matthew D. Chase, Executive 
  Director and Chief Executive Officer, National Association of 
  Counties, et al., to Senator Charles Schumer, et al............   167
Letter of June 21, 2023, from Sterling N. Ransone, Jr., Board 
  Chair, American Academy of Family Physicians, to Mr. Guthrie 
  and Ms. Eshoo..................................................   169
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Edwin S. Jayne, Director of Federal 
  Government Affairs, AFSCME, to Mrs. Rodgers, et al.............   172
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Andrew Hu, Director, Bipartisan 
  Policy Center Action, to Mrs. Rodgers, et al...................   175
Letter of June 8, 2023, from A New PATH (Parents for Addiction 
  Treatment & Healing), et al., to Rep. Kevin McCarthy, et al....   184
Letter of June 13, 2023, from Rep. David J. Trone, et al., to 
  Mrs. Rodgers and Mr. Pallone...................................   189
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Alsana, et al., to Mrs. Rodgers and 
  Mr. Pallone....................................................   193
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Hannah Wesolowski, Chief Advocacy 
  Officer, National Alliance on Mental Illness, to Mr. Guthrie 
  and Ms. Eshoo..................................................   196
Letter of June 21, 2023, from American Cancer Society Cancer 
  Action Network, et al., to Mrs. Rodgers and Mr. Pallone........   198
Letter of June 20, 2023, from Matt Look, Chair, Anoka County 
  Board of Commissioners, to Mr. Guthrie, et al..................   202


RESPONDING TO AMERICA'S OVERDOSE CRISIS: AN EXAMINATION OF LEGISLATION 
                     TO BUILD UPON THE SUPPORT ACT

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                        WEDNESDAY, JUNE 21, 2023

                  House of Representatives,
                            Subcommittee on Health,
                          Committee on Energy and Commerce,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:00 a.m. in 
room 2322, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Brett Guthrie 
(chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
    Members present: Representatives Guthrie, Burgess, Latta, 
Griffith, Bilirakis, Johnson, Bucshon, Carter, Dunn, Pence, 
Crenshaw, Joyce, Harshbarger, Miller-Meeks, Rodgers (ex 
officio), Eshoo (subcommittee ranking member), Sarbanes, 
Cardenas, Ruiz, Dingell, Kuster, Kelly, Barragan, Craig, 
Schrier, Trahan, and Pallone (ex officio).
    Also present: Representatives Balderson, Schakowsky, and 
Tonko.
    Staff present: Sean Brebbia, Chief Counsel, Oversight and 
Investigations; Jolie Brochin, Clerk, Health; Kristin Flukey, 
Professional Staff Member, Health; Seth Gold, Professional 
Staff Member, Health; Grace Graham, Chief Counsel, Health; Tara 
Hupman, Chief Counsel; Emily King, Member Services Director; 
Chris Krepich, Press Secretary; Molly Lolli, Counsel, Health; 
Carla Rafael, Senior Staff Assistant; Michael Taggart, Policy 
Director; Lydia Abma, Policy Analyst; Jacquelyn Bolen, Health 
Counsel; Waverly Gordon, Deputy Staff Director and General 
Counsel; Tiffany Guarascio, Staff Director; Saha Khaterzai, 
Professional Staff Member; Una Lee, Chief Health Counsel; Andre 
Rosario, Health Fellow; Tristen Tellman, Health Fellow; and 
Rick Van Buren, Senior Health Counsel.
    Mr. Guthrie. The subcommittee will come to order, and the 
Chair recognizes himself for 5 minutes for an opening 
statement.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. BRETT GUTHRIE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
           CONGRESS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY

    Today we are here to examine the SUPPORT Act and how its 
implementation has helped increase access to prevention, 
treatment, and recovery services. Since the passage of the 
SUPPORT Act there have been several efforts to address issues 
related to substance use disorder and drug overdoses, which 
include Restoring Hope for Mental Health and Well-Being Act and 
the HALT Fentanyl Act. This hearing will give us the 
opportunity to see what legislation solutions have been working 
and address any potential gaps.
    Earlier this month we convened a field hearing in 
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, where we had the opportunity to hear 
from addiction experts to learn about how policies from the 
SUPPORT Act have helped in the fight against drug overdoses. We 
heard heart-wrenching testimony from Michael Straley, who lost 
his daughter Leah on Valentine's Day a few years ago to 
fentanyl poisoning. Tragically, there are hundreds of thousands 
of stories like Michael's.
    In just the past 2 years, more than 200,000 Americans have 
tragically lost their lives to drug overdoses driven by 
synthetic opioids such as illicit fentanyl. In Kentucky, over 
70 percent of all drug overdoses are caused by illicit 
fentanyl. The evidence is clear that we have more work to do to 
effectively curb historically high drug overdose rates, and it 
is more important than ever that this committee recommit to 
addressing this crisis.
    Key to ensuring success will be a focus on prevention 
efforts. One example of legislation we are considering today 
would address the threat of xylazine, a tranquilizer routinely 
used for animals that is quickly becoming one of the deadliest 
street drugs. H.R. 1839, the Combat Illicit Xylazine Act, led 
by Representative Pfluger, would subject individuals who 
distribute these substances illegally to schedule III 
penalties.
    To supplement this work we are considering legislation to 
allow Federal funding to be used for fentanyl and xylazine 
testing strips in States where they are legal, and to help 
ensure that all FDA-approved overdose reversal medications.
    Prevention, however, must be coupled with policies that 
promote access to care to help those who are currently 
struggling with addiction. That is why we are considering 
legislation today that will provide access to reliable care for 
vulnerable populations, including providing for medication-
assisted treatment for Medicaid patients and treatment services 
for foster care youth and for pregnant or postpartum women.
    Of note, H.R. 3892, the Improving Mental Health and Drug 
Treatment Act, will lift the IMD exclusion for residential and 
inpatient services. The exclusion, which arbitrarily limits 
access to residential care facilities with 16 or fewer beds, 
has been a significant barrier to care for vulnerable 
populations, including homeless populations and children that 
are currently being boarded and treated in emergency 
departments for severe mental illness and substance use 
disorder, rather than able to get care in a clinically 
appropriate setting. The legislation will ensure patients are 
receiving the most appropriate and comprehensive care to 
address their needs.
    Thank you to Dr. Burgess for your historic leadership on 
this important issue, and I look forward to moving this bill 
forward.
    We are also examining solutions that will promote long-term 
recovery and wraparound services to support individuals' 
journey to rehabilitate their lives. This includes my bill, 
H.R. 1502, the Comprehensive Opioid Recovery Centers 
Reauthorization Act, which reauthorizes the Comprehensive 
Opioid Recovery Centers Program for 5 years. The CORCs Program 
is responsible for providing wraparound treatment and recovery 
support services, including workforce training, to individuals 
living in communities with disproportionately drug overdose 
rates.
    I am proud of the early results of this program, and I 
would like to thank Representatives Tonko, Bucshon, and Peters 
for their partnership on this issue.
    Before I close, I would like to touch on bills before us 
that would attempt to support the behavioral health needs of 
those moving in and out of the criminal justice system. There 
is more we need to do to address access to the care for these 
individuals so they can get the right care as they reenter the 
communities. We are looking at two proposals before us today in 
their current form. We need to make sure we don't do massive 
cost-shifting from State spending to Federal spending without 
first solving the problems at hand. So we need to look 
carefully at the two bills before us today that do that.
    I look forward to identifying long-term solutions that are 
fiscally responsible and empower States to provide access for 
care to incarcerated individuals. I look forward to continuing 
the process to reauthorize the SUPPORT Act, and I thank my 
colleagues for leading on these bipartisan policies.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Guthrie follows:]


   
    
    Mr. Guthrie. And I yield back, and will recognize the 
ranking member of the subcommittee, Ranking Member Eshoo, for 5 
minutes for her opening statement.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. ANNA G. ESHOO, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

    Ms. Eshoo. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for 
yielding to me.
    Good morning to our witnesses. Thank you for being here 
today.
    Over 1 million Americans died from COVID. Over 1 million 
Americans have died from a drug overdose since 2000, including 
nearly 110,000 overdose deaths in just the last year. About 300 
Americans die every day from a drug overdose. These are jaw-
dropping figures.
    Our country has had three waves of opioid deaths caused by 
prescription opioids, heroin, and now illicit fentanyl. 
According to the CDC, fentanyl poisoning caused 68 percent of 
the overdose deaths in the past year.
    Today our subcommittee considers 28 mostly bipartisan bills 
to build on the 2018 SUPPORT Act to address the opioid crisis 
by increasing access to treatment and improving overdose 
prevention efforts.
    To--I am sorry--a major contributing factor to overdoses is 
difficulty finding treatment. According to SAMHSA, only 11 
percent of people in our country with opioid use disorder 
receive medication-assisted treatment. People in jails and 
prisons are frequently denied treatment because of lack of 
Medicaid coverage while incarcerated. People who are released 
from jail and prisons are 12 times more likely to die of an 
overdose than the general public. Bills by Representatives 
Trone and Tonko address these inequities by expanding Medicaid 
coverage during pretrial and the month before release.
    Another barrier to accessing treatment is--are the 
shortages of qualified health providers. According to HRSA, 
more than 150 million Americans--150 million Americans, that is 
almost half of our population--live in mental health provider 
shortage areas, where the number of local providers cannot meet 
the area's need for substance use treatment. To address these 
shortages, we will consider legislation to continue grant 
programs for opioid recovery centers, peer support workers, and 
specialized treatment for pregnant and postpartum women with 
substance use disorders, as well as for children recovering 
from trauma.
    We are also considering legislation to reform the 
institutions for mental diseases exclusion, which restricts 
Medicaid coverage for residential and inpatient behavioral 
health services to facilities with fewer than 16 beds.
    California, my home State, is currently benefiting from a 
waiver to the IMD exclusion and is receiving Federal funding to 
support quality inpatient treatment for substance use disorder.
    Unintentional exposure to highly potent and fast-acting 
fentanyl is driving overdose deaths. We know this. To help 
prevent overdoses, we are considering the Test Strip Access Act 
to provide access to strips that test drugs for deadly 
chemicals like fentanyl and xylazine.
    I look forward to hearing from each one of our witnesses 
today from the CDC, CMS, HRSA--it is a real alphabet soup at 
the table--CDC, CMS, HRSA, SAMHSA, and the DEA about their 
whole-of-government effort to prevent overdose deaths, and your 
recommendations for what else Congress should do to save lives. 
It is really a tall order, but it must be addressed. These 
statistics are really shameful. So thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Eshoo follows:]
    
    

    
    Ms. Eshoo. And I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. I now 
recognize the Chair of the full committee, Chair Rodgers, for 5 
minutes for her opening statement.

      OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. CATHY McMORRIS RODGERS, A 
    REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

    Mrs. Rodgers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Today we continue our work to address the opioid crisis, as 
well as the despair addiction and increased suicides, as the 
ranking member just said, to save lives.
    This Congress, this committee has taken decisive actions to 
keep Americans safe from the threats of illegal drugs. We held 
two roundtables on the role that illicit fentanyl has played in 
driving up overdoses and poisonings. We have had Biden 
administration officials testify on the crisis at the first 
Health Subcommittee hearing of this Congress. We held a field 
hearing in Pennsylvania, where we heard from local law 
enforcement and providers who are on the front lines of 
responding to this crisis, and led on the HALT Fentanyl Act, 
which passed the House with strong bipartisan vote.
    And now it is time that we turn to strengthening the 
SUPPORT Act, landmark legislation signed into law to bolster 
treatment and recovery initiatives, improve prevention, and 
fight fentanyl.
    When this committee led the way on the SUPPORT Act 5 years 
ago, there were about 70,000 overdose deaths per year, driven 
by prescription opioids and other narcotics like heroin. Since 
then, even though Congress has appropriated more than $20 
billion to States for the substance use block grant and the 
State Opioid Response block grant, the crisis has only gotten 
worse. The Government enforced COVID-19 lockdowns, sent 
millions of Americans who were on the road to recovery 
backwards.
    Additionally, the pandemic sent more people into despair 
and isolation, driving them to take up illicit drugs for the 
first time. We also saw a dramatic shift in the causes of 
overdoses from prescription opioids to fentanyl poisonings, and 
now other substances like tranqs. Together, these caused 
overdose deaths to spike more than to 100,000 deaths per year, 
more people than ever.
    In my home State, overdose deaths have increased by 108 
percent just since 2019. It is the second-largest increase in 
the country.
    To save lives and to give people hope, we must address the 
root causes of this crisis. We need to cut off the supply of 
illegal drugs and hold traffickers accountable. We need to 
better warn Americans and young people that any drug could be 
laced with fentanyl. We need to increase treatment options for 
people in need, and we need to help those in recovery stay on 
track and fully participate in their communities.
    Many of our bills will build on what has worked to improve 
access to care. This includes the Protecting Moms and Infants 
Reauthorization Act, led by Representative Kim, to continue 
support for residential substance use disorder treatment 
services for pregnant and postpartum women.
    The Safer Response Act, led by Representative D'Esposito, 
would continue support for training related to fentanyl and 
other illicit substances for first responders.
    The Reconnect Act, led by Representative Griffith, would 
continue support for the improvement of prescription drug 
monitoring programs and other innovative projects related to 
rapid response of controlled substance misuse and overdoses.
    I also believe it is important to permanently lift 
Medicaid's IMD exclusion so that we do not arbitrarily limit 
access to care for those who need it most. Advocates from every 
level of State and local government, as well as key 
associations that represent people with substance use disorder 
and mental health needs, support lifting the IMD exclusion as 
well. These supporters recognize that when a patient needs help 
and is ready to seek treatment, we should not be denying them 
support at the level of care that works best for them. It is 
time to end this prohibition once and for all.
    Before I close, I would like to note my concerns on the 
Reentry Act and the Due Process Continuity of Care Act. I 
support the goal of ensuring people who are incarcerated have 
the tools to safely reenter their communities and get the care 
they need. This is why I have supported policies in the past, 
like from Congressman Hudson, that helped children who are 
incarcerated receive necessary treatments.
    However, I have reservations about the bills in their 
current forms, and believe that we need to know first what 
barriers exist for States, localities, and the Bureau of 
Prisons from providing care, which they are all required to do.
    Overall, I want to thank you, thank all my colleagues who 
are leading on solutions today. This crisis has hit every 
community. We all know people and families who need to be 
rescued from despair. And for them we must keep working 
together to ensure these solutions provide the support and 
tools that people need to find meaning, purpose, and the chance 
for a better life. That is how we restore hope and bring 
healing across America.
    [The prepared statement of Mrs. Rodgers follows:]
    
    

    Mrs. Rodgers. Thank you, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The Chair yields back. I now 
recognize the ranking member of the full committee, Mr. Pallone 
from New Jersey, for 5 minutes for an opening statement.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. FRANK PALLONE, Jr., A REPRESENTATIVE 
            IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY

    Mr. Pallone. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    In 2018 this committee came together in strong bipartisan 
fashion to pass the SUPPORT Act to address the ongoing opioid 
epidemic. Over the last 5 years, this law has expanded 
treatment options in Medicare and Medicaid, allowed more 
providers to prescribe medication-assisted treatment, and made 
important investments in public health.
    Today we are considering a number of bills to help further 
address the ongoing opioid epidemic, including bills to 
reauthorize critical programs included in the SUPPORT Act. 
Ongoing action is necessary because, tragically, nearly 110,000 
Americans died last year of drug overdoses. I am especially 
hopeful that this will be the year that we are able to move 
H.R. 2400, the Medicaid Reentry Act, out of the committee and 
have it signed into law.
    This bill would build on the bipartisan work we did last 
Congress by enabling eligible individuals to enroll in Medicaid 
30 days prior to their release from incarceration. Researchers 
have found that people recently released from incarceration are 
10 times more likely to overdose on opioids than the general 
public. Many times, these individuals can struggle to access 
care upon their release, making them more likely to delay 
seeking treatment.
    Allowing eligible people to enroll in Medicaid prior to 
their release will help connect them to coverage upon their 
discharge. This will help smooth their transition back into the 
community because they are able to access the services they 
need. I hope we can finally move this bill forward and give 
States the tools they need to support incarcerated individuals 
in recovery.
    I am also pleased that we are considering bipartisan 
legislation that would reauthorize several important provisions 
from the SUPPORT Act that strengthen the ability of communities 
to respond to the opioid epidemic. We will be discussing bills 
to reauthorize programs to train first responders, support 
recovery centers, and bolster the behavioral health workforce.
    Other programs up for reauthorization would expand 
treatment for pregnant and postpartum women, connect schools 
with mental health services, and continue an important task 
force on trauma care.
    We will also consider legislation to expand access to 
lifesaving resources such as fentanyl and xylazine test strips, 
and to have HHS and DEA reexamine the evidence regarding the 
important treatment options like Suboxone. I don't know if I am 
pronouncing this correctly. Together, these bills will help us 
combat the opioid epidemic.
    I am hopeful that these bipartisan policies can move 
through our committee process, but I am disappointed that the 
majority has also chosen to include several bills that are 
problematic. I am particularly concerned about proposals that 
would create financial incentives to institutionalize 
individuals with substance use disorders. Rather than simply 
warehousing these individuals, Congress should provide States 
with the resources to expand provider capacity and expand 
access to services in home and community-based settings.
    I am also--I also question why we are considering 
legislation that would permanently extend the option for States 
to cover short-term stays in an institution for mental disease, 
or IMD. I was skeptical of this policy when it was passed 5 
years ago. In the years since, the response from States has 
been underwhelming. Currently, I am aware of only two States 
that have taken up this option. We should acknowledge that this 
policy has not lived up to the expectations of its supporters, 
and not look to permanently extend it.
    I have also concerns with H.R. 824, which would allow 
employers to offer telehealth as a separate, standalone policy 
exempt from the Affordable Care Act's critical consumer 
protections. I believe this bill is a solution in search of a 
problem. Employers already have the flexibility to offer 
telehealth to their employees. I am concerned that this bill 
would instead expand a form of insurance that is not subject to 
the ACA's consumer protections.
    These insurance plans are also not subject to mental health 
parity, and can be deceptively marketed to Americans as 
comprehensive coverage. I worry that if we expand these plans, 
American families will be left with inadequate coverage and at 
risk of surprise medical bills.
    And finally, I am troubled by the inclusion of H.R. 1839, 
the Combating Illicit Xylazine Act. I understand that xylazine 
is a growing problem. Doing an end run around the interagency 
process for scheduling controlled substances is not the answer. 
I am concerned about the precedent of Congress attaching 
criminal penalties to a drug that is not scheduled.
    I understand that access to legitimate veterinary and 
agricultural uses of xylazine needs to be preserved. But this 
should not--this should be handled through the administrative 
process, not by Congress picking and choosing drugs to apply 
criminal penalties to--by statute.
    Now, everyone in this room is far too familiar with the 
tragic consequences of the opioid epidemic. While we have seen 
some improvements, there is still a long way to go, and I am 
hopeful that we will be able to find bipartisan solutions to 
ensure that our States, cities, and first responders have the 
resources they need.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Pallone follows:]
  
  

    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentleman yields back, and that 
concludes opening statements. We will now move to our 
witnesses' opening statements.
    All of you have testified before. You have 5 minutes for 
your opening statement, and there will be a yellow light, 1 
minute, and so--kind of rounding up, and then after, red, it 
means your time has expired.
    I will introduce our witnesses together, and then I will go 
back and call on each one of you individually to do your 
testimony.
    First we have Mr. Matthew Strait, Deputy Assistant 
Administrator for the DEA Office of Diversion Control.
    Dr. Christopher Jones, Director of the National Center for 
Injury Prevention and Control for the CDC.
    We have Mr. Tom Coderre, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary 
for Mental Health and Substance Abuse.
    Ms. Diana Espinosa, a Principal Deputy Administrator of the 
Health and Human Health Resources and Services Administration 
and Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Mental Health and 
Substance Abuse.
    And Mr. Jonathan Blum, the Principal Deputy Administrator 
and Chief Operating Officer for the Centers for Medicare & 
Medicaid Services.
    So thank you all for being here. We look forward to your 
testimony.
    And Mr. Strait, you are recognized for 5 minutes for your 
opening statement.

 STATEMENTS OF MATTHEW STRAIT, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, 
 DIVERSION CONTROL DIVISION, DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION, 
 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE; CHRISTOPHER M. JONES, Phar.D., D.P.H., 
 DIRECTOR, NATIONAL CENTER FOR INJURY PREVENTION AND CONTROL, 
   CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, DEPARTMENT OF 
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES; TOM CODERRE, ACTING DEPUTY ASSISTANT 
SECRETARY FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE, SUBSTANCE ABUSE 
AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH 
     AND HUMAN SERVICES; DIANA ESPINOSA, PRINCIPAL DEPUTY 
 ADMINISTRATOR, HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION, 
  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES; AND JONATHAN BLUM, 
PRINCIPAL DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR 
  THE CENTERS FOR MEDICARE & MEDICAID SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF 
                   HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

                  STATEMENT OF MATTHEW STRAIT

    Mr. Strait. Full committee Chairman McMorris Rodgers, 
Chairman Guthrie, ranking member of the full committee Mr. 
Pallone and Ranking Member Eshoo and distinguished members of 
the committee, on behalf of DEA Administrator Anne Milgram and 
the nearly 10,000 men and women of the Drug Enforcement 
Administration, I am honored to be here today to discuss DEA's 
efforts to implement important changes to the Controlled 
Substances Act resulting from passage of the SUPPORT Act.
    The latest provisional overdose death statistics from our 
partners at CDC show that the U.S. lost an estimated 109,680 
Americans for the 12-month period ending in December of 2022. 
Fentanyl is involved in roughly two-thirds of those deaths, and 
we refer to these deaths as poisonings because illicit fentanyl 
is a poison. I am reminded of this every day as I pass through 
the halls of DEA, where we have displayed the images of more 
than 2,600 Americans lost. These individuals are the faces of 
fentanyl.
    These poisons are being produced primarily in the--by the 
Sinaloa and Jalisco cartels in the form of fake pills. 
According to DEA's forensic analysis of seized pills, 6 of 10 
contain a lethal dose. The appearance of Xylazine, an animal 
tranquilizer encountered in 48 States, adds complexity to our 
response and increases harm to users.
    While naloxone can reverse the respiratory depressive 
effects of fentanyl, it will not reverse the same effects 
produced by xylazine. Fentanyl mixed with xylazine is an 
emerging threat in the United States and is the reason why we 
must place schedule I controls on fentanyl-related substances 
and improve regulations for xylazine.
    The simple fact is that any pill which a person obtains 
outside of a licensed pharmacy could contain a lethal dose of 
fentanyl, could contain a lethal dose of methamphetamine, 
cocaine, or a combination thereof. Teens who order a pill on a 
smartphone, college students who take a pill from a friend, 
elderly neighbors searching online for a painkiller, or 
patients who develop the disease of addiction--these vulnerable 
Americans are victims of predatory criminal drug networks.
    Within the DEA, the Diversion Control Division, where I 
have spent the majority of my 24-year career, is responsible 
for preventing, detecting, and investigating the diversion of 
controlled prescription medications from our more than 2 
million registrants. Beyond this essential role of protecting 
the safety of Americans from the improper prescribing and 
misuse of prescription drugs.
    And similar to the mission of the individuals sitting with 
me today, I continue to dedicate my career towards efforts 
aimed at addressing our equally important public health role. 
That is to ensure that there is an adequate and uninterrupted 
supply of controlled prescription medications to meet the 
medical, scientific, and research needs of the U.S. It is that 
mission, embodied by changes to the CSA resulting from passage 
of the SUPPORT Act in 2018, where I hope to focus today's 
discussion. I am happy to be here with my Federal partners to 
explain the steps DEA is taking to ensure that patients in need 
of vital medicines have safe and ready access.
    On the top of this list is DEA's full support to improve 
and expand access to important treatment drugs like 
buprenorphine and methadone. This includes next week's 
implementation of the MATE Act, as well as the repeal of the X 
waiver for prescribing buprenorphine. It includes our efforts 
to facilitate induction of new patients on buprenorphine, using 
telemedicine and ongoing efforts to improve access to MOUD in 
carceral settings.
    We are also working to ensure Americans in underserved 
areas have access to healthcare. We are considering changes to 
regulations in response to the more than 38,000 comments we 
received on two draft telemedicine rules published in March. 
And we will establish clear and simplified rules with 
guardrails for the prescribing of controlled substances.
    We continue to work in close collaboration with the FDA, 
manufacturers, and distributors to understand the causes for a 
growing list of drug shortage reports from patients regarding 
amphetamine-based pharmaceutical products, primarily generic 
Adderall, used in the management of ADHD.
    And finally, we have done tremendous work to ensure 
schedule I controlled substances, including marijuana, MDMA, 
and psilocybin are available to our 842 researchers from a 
growing list of domestic sources.
    Thank you for the opportunity to be here today, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Strait follows:]
    
    

    
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony.
    The Chair now recognizes Dr. Christopher Jones for your 
opening statement.

       STATEMENT OF CHRISTOPHER M. JONES, Phar.D., D.P.H.

    Dr. Jones. Thank you, Chair, Chair Guthrie, Ranking Member 
Eshoo, and distinguished members of the committee. Thank you 
for the opportunity to be here today to discuss the CDC's 
efforts authorized by the SUPPORT Act to address our Nation's 
overdose crisis.
    This crisis has profoundly impacted our Nation. CDC's most 
recent data show that 300 Americans are dying each day from 
overdose, and many millions more struggle with substance use. 
The historic increases we have seen in overdose deaths in 
recent years are facilitated by a rapidly changing and highly 
lethal drug market saturated with illicitly made fentanyl and 
the resurgence of stimulants like methamphetamine.
    The ever-changing drug landscape continues to present 
emerging and novel threats to the health of our Nation. And 
behind these statistics are individuals, families, and 
communities that have been deeply impacted. However, we remain 
resolute in our belief that we can alter the trajectory of this 
crisis. At CDC we are working urgently to save lives today, 
while also building a strong foundation of prevention to 
protect future generations.
    CDC prioritizes five strategies that align with the HHS 
overdose prevention strategy: monitoring, analyzing, and 
communicating trends; building State, Tribal, local, and 
Territorial capacity; supporting providers, health systems, 
payers, and employers; partnering with public safety and 
community organizations; raising public awareness and reducing 
stigma.
    CDC invests in communities across the country to the 
national program Overdose Data to Action, or OD2A, that 
supports the critical work being done by health departments in 
our country. This program is improving fatal and nonfatal 
overdose data collection, analysis, and dissemination, 
advancing prescription drug monitoring programs and other 
health system innovations, and driving targeted prevention 
efforts tailored to individual community needs.
    Building on knowledge gained from the OD2A program over the 
past 4 years, CDC will fund 2 new programs this fall. Overdose 
Data to Action in States will fund State health departments to 
continue expanding innovative data efforts while implementing 
prevention activities to decrease fatal and nonfatal overdoses 
and related harms. And through a second program, OD2A: LOCAL, 
CDC will provide direct funding to up to 40 city, county, and 
Territorial health departments to directly advance their local 
overdose prevention efforts.
    In addition, CDC continues to advance innovative 
partnerships through multiple public health and public safety 
collaborations, partners with health systems to improve 
upstream prescribing and pain care, enhance linkage to care and 
services, and reduce stigma among clinicians.
    CDC also strengthens national laboratory capacity by 
developing tests and reference materials on synthetic opioids, 
stimulants, and other drug threats for clinical and public 
health labs.
    We have also made great strides in improving the timeliness 
and completeness of drug overdose death certificate data, 
working closely with vital records offices and medical 
examiners and coroners across the country. These activities are 
complemented by other work at CDC, focusing on specific at-risk 
populations. This includes efforts to prevent and respond to 
infections commonly associated with illicit drug use like HIV 
and viral hepatitis; preventing prenatal substance use and 
related harms by improving data collection on neonatal 
abstinence syndrome; establishing a data network to examine 
outcomes associated with MOU receipt during pregnancy; and 
connecting mothers and babies with needed services.
    Moving forward, flexibility to address emerging threats and 
new drug threats is paramount so CDC can quickly scale support 
to jurisdictions and help health departments and communities 
adapt strategies to meet their needs.
    Finally, preventing substance use in the first place is a 
core component of CDC's work and the long-term solution to 
reversing the overdose crisis. Adverse Childhood Experiences, 
or ACEs, are potentially traumatic events that occur in 
childhood, such as witnessing or experiencing violence, growing 
up in a family with substance use or mental health challenges, 
or losing a parent to overdose. Research consistently shows 
that ACEs are strongly linked to future risk for substance use 
and addiction, mental health challenges, and suicide. And CDC 
is working to strengthen ACEs data collection and supporting 
efforts in communities to prevent ACEs and promote positive 
childhood experiences. By addressing these root drivers, we 
have a real opportunity to get ahead of the mental health and 
substance use challenges facing our Nation.
    For far too long, the tragic consequences of substance use 
and overdose have devastated families and communities across 
our country. As a person in long-term recovery, I know 
firsthand the devastation and pain that addiction can inflict. 
But I have also experienced the transformative power of 
recovery. CDC is committed to continuing using data, science, 
innovation, and collaboration as part of a whole-of-government 
effort to save lives and bring it into our overdose crisis
    Thank you for the opportunity to be here. I look forward to 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Dr. Jones follows:]
    
    

    
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. I thank you for your testimony.
    The Chair now recognizes Mr. Coderre for 5 minutes for your 
opening statement.

                    STATEMENT OF TOM CODERRE

    Mr. Coderre. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member 
Eshoo, for inviting me to testify before you today. My name is 
Tom Coderre, and I serve as the Acting Deputy Assistant 
Secretary for Mental Health and Substance Abuse at the 
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.
    I would like to start today by sharing a short story with 
you. This story is about a man who came from a loving family 
and had many friends. He was deeply involved in his community, 
enjoyed politics and policy, and was elected to the State 
senate at 25 years old. By 30 he had risen in his career to 
become the executive director of a large nonprofit agency. On 
the outside, everything about this man's life looked normal. 
Some would even say ideal.
    However, on the inside he was tortured. So he turned first 
to alcohol and then to other drugs to cope with the stress in 
his life. Underestimating the power of these substances and 
unaware of the neurological consequences, he became addicted 
and his life began to unravel. He started to lose the things 
that were most important to him. When his family and friends 
tried to help, he resisted their help and he pushed them away. 
This caused him to lose them.
    He lost his job and his position in the senate. His health 
deteriorated. He lost his apartment and became homeless. He 
lost his spirit. In the end, he lost everything, even his 
desire to live. This man's life, which at one time was so full 
of hope, became hopeless.
    I know this story well because it is mine. Fortunately, I 
was able to get the help that I needed. And today I am a person 
in long-term recovery--just look at my friend, Dr. Jones--
which, for me, means I haven't been able to use alcohol or 
drugs since May 15 of 2003. During these 20 years in recovery, 
my life has improved dramatically. Being in recovery has not 
only enabled me to create a better life for myself, but it has 
also enabled me to create a better life for my family and my 
entire community.
    With help, people can and do recover from substance use 
disorders. I am here today not only representing SAMHSA, but I 
am one of the more than 20 million Americans who have resolved 
their issues with substances.
    Unfortunately, too many people do not have stories as 
hopeful as mine. In January SAMHSA released the latest National 
Survey on Drug Use and Health, which estimates that 46.3 
million people in this country had a substance use disorder. 
SAMHSA's charge is to ensure that every one of them can get 
evidence-based treatment to continue to support their success 
once they enter recovery, and to work to prevent others from 
starting down that dangerous path. That is why SAMHSA focuses 
on the full range of the care continuum: prevention, 
intervention, treatment, and recovery support.
    My written testimony goes into more details than the time I 
have today, so I just want to comment briefly on two programs 
established or enhanced by the SUPPORT Act, the topic of 
today's hearing. I am grateful to the Members of Congress who 
have led this critical effort, to the members of this committee 
for their support and their attention to this work today.
    Among the many important programs authorizing the SUPPORT 
Act, the law's enhanced funding for first responder training 
for opioid overdose reversal drugs has provided resources to 
rescue individuals at the brink of death by preventing opioid 
overdoses. This program provides resources for first responders 
and members of other key community sectors to administer FDA-
approved emergency treatment for known or suspected opioid 
overdose.
    During the program's recent grant period, grantees 
distributed more than 340,000 naloxone kits with grant funds 
and administered naloxone more than 157,000 times. By the end 
of 2022, grantees had also conducted over 41,000 trainings and 
trained more than 188,000 individuals on how to respond to 
opioid-related incidents.
    At the other end of the continuum, the Treatment Recovery 
Workforce Support Program established by the SUPPORT Act 
provides the resources so that people in recovery can find 
stability, live independently, and participate in the 
workforce. Grantees provide treatment or recovery services for 
individuals with substance use disorders and partner with one 
or more local or State entities to provide a broad range of 
support services.
    In fiscal year 2022, the modest program helped over 1,600 
people stay in recovery, attend school and/or work, and achieve 
permanent residence in their communities. These crucial SAMHSA 
programs, along with many others in the SUPPORT Act, are up for 
reauthorization. These programs are making a difference in 
people's lives in States and communities across our Nation.
    So thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today 
and for your dedication to this issue.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Coderre follows:]
    
    

    
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony.
    Ms. Espinosa, you are recognized for 5 minutes for your 
opening statement.

                  STATEMENT OF DIANA ESPINOSA

    Ms. Espinosa. Chairman Guthrie, Ranking Member Eshoo, and 
members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to 
discuss the Health Resources and Services Administration's 
efforts to expand access to substance use disorder treatment 
and prevention services and to grow the behavioral health 
workforce.
    My name is Diana Espinosa, and I serve as the Principal 
Deputy Administrator of HRSA, the agency that supports 
delivering healthcare in the Nation's highest-need communities, 
building the health workforce, improving maternal and child 
health, and meeting the healthcare needs of rural America.
    I would like to begin by thanking the members of the 
subcommittee. With your help we have made meaningful gains in 
expanding behavioral health services and training more 
providers. Through the SUPPORT Act, HRSA launched the Substance 
Use Disorder, Treatment, and Recovery, or STAR, Loan Repayment 
Program to recruit and retain clinicians and paraprofessionals 
who provide direct treatment and recovery support for patients. 
The program repays the educational loans of providers who 
deliver 6 years of full-time service in communities with the 
highest overdose rates in the country.
    Today, across the United States, 445 clinicians and 
community health workers are providing direct treatment and 
recovery support to patients through this program. And by the 
end of the fiscal year, that number will increase to over 600 
providers.
    The SUPPORT Act also provided authority for other critical 
behavioral health workforce programs, which are training 
providers in community-based settings. During the recent 
academic year, these programs trained over 7,800 behavioral 
health providers.
    HRSA's National Health Service Corps also plays an 
important role in combating the overdose epidemic by growing 
and retaining a skilled workforce of behavioral health 
professionals and increasing access to services in rural and 
underserved communities. Currently, more than 9,600 mental 
health and substance use disorder providers are practicing in 
the highest need communities, thanks to the National Health 
Service Corps.
    Mandatory funding for the National Health Service Corps 
expires at the end of this fiscal year. The President's budget 
seeks to sustain the record level of clinicians in service and 
provide a 3-year mandatory investment in the program.
    HRSA created the Rural Communities Opioid Response Program, 
the only targeted program focused specifically on addressing 
substance use disorder in rural communities. HRSA has invested 
over $500 million across more than 1,800 rural counties in 
nearly every State via RCOR, and grantees have provided direct 
services to nearly 4 million people living in these rural 
counties.
    The Health Center Program is also a tremendous resource for 
increasing access to behavioral health services, given its 
broad footprint and valuable role as a trusted provider in 
communities across the country. Targeted investments have 
helped health centers expand their capacity to deliver 
behavioral health services, including increasing the number of 
patients receiving mental health and substance use disorder 
services.
    Still today, health centers are only meeting about 27 
percent of estimated demand for mental health services and 
approximately 6 percent of estimated demand for substance use 
disorder services among their patients. Mandatory funding for 
the Health Center Program expires at the end of this fiscal 
year, and the President's budget proposes a new $700 million 
investment to expand behavioral health services in health 
centers, along with a requirement that they provide mental 
health and substance use disorder services.
    HRSA continues to expand access to substance use disorder 
services and grow the behavioral health workforce through its 
SUPPORT Act programs and others.
    I look forward to your questions about our programs. Thank 
you.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Espinosa follows:]
    
    

    
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you for your testimony. The Chair now 
recognizes Mr. Blum.
    You have 5 minutes for your opening statement.

                   STATEMENT OF JONATHAN BLUM

    Mr. Blum. Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the opportunity for CMS 
to present today.
    CMS deeply thanks this committee for authorizing the 
SUPPORT Act. This law has provided new tools to CMS to address 
the devastating toll substance use has taken on those covered 
by CMS programs.
    This toll has only worsened during the past 5 years. While 
progress has been made, we agree that more must be done.
    CMS works hand in hand with the other agencies here to 
build system capacity, connect more people to care, and 
integrate behavioral health services with primary care and 
other social support services. For CMS, we have built a 
comprehensive plan that coordinates work throughout the agency 
and supports broader department and presidential strategies.
    As the largest payer of care here in our country, CMS works 
to ensure that our payment, coverage, and quality programs 
promote person- and patient-centric behavioral healthcare.
    As stated, the SUPPORT Act provided CMS new tools and 
authorities to provide better care for patients. Medicare now 
provides for treatment in more care settings. We have launched 
new payment models to test value-based payment concepts. We 
have worked closely with States to help their efforts to expand 
Medicaid options that provide broader treatment options. We now 
require CHIP programs to expand coverage for services. We have 
provided planning grants to States to bolster their care 
delivery systems, and we have expanded data monitoring for 
prescribers.
    So the SUPPORT Act only has 5 years--it is only 5 years 
old. We are seeing positive change to our programs. But given 
the demand for services, we must continue to find new ways to 
improve our policies. The President's budget proposes many 
policies to expand coverage and access to behavioral health 
treatments. These include stronger mental health parity 
provisions for the States, requiring Medicare and private 
health insurance plans to cover three behavioral health visits 
with no cost sharing, converting successful demonstration 
programs to permanent programs.
    I have personally traveled throughout the country to many 
States and have seen firsthand the challenges that our care 
systems now face. Healthcare providers and other stakeholders 
tell us how much greater demand there is for behavioral 
healthcare services today in both urban and rural settings. Our 
programs are stronger today thanks to the SUPPORT Act, but we 
know that more can be done and more must be done.
    CMS stands ready to support this committee's work. Thank 
you for the opportunity again. I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Blum follows:]
    
    

    
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. I appreciate your testimony. That 
concludes all of our witnesses' testimony. And we will move to 
questions, and I will begin the questioning by recognizing 
myself for 5 minutes for questions.
    So, Mr. Coderre, we are here today to examine what has 
worked and what hasn't worked over the past several years. We 
have also spent billions of dollars on treatment and recovery 
programs. According to a December 2021 Government 
Accountability Office report, SAMHSA spent 2.8 billion in State 
opioid response grants, and there were over 2.2 billion in 
unspent funds during fiscal year 2020.
    I understand fiscal year 2020 is a difficult year to 
benchmark because of all that was going on with COVID, and it 
could have impacted funds. However, SAMHSA's data shows that 
the base award for SOAR grants was 1.4 billion in 2020, and the 
draw-down was 1.421 billion.
    Why is there a discrepancy in the GAO's reporting and the 
SAMHSA's website?
    And for drawdowns, does that mean States spent all those 
funds, or does that only mean they took the funding?
    And how can we be more targeted with our funding?
    Mr. Coderre. Thanks so much for that question, Mr. 
Chairman.
    The State Opioid Response Grant Program has been incredibly 
important to States and local communities over the years, and 
we at SAMHSA have worked very closely with States about how to 
spend those resources effectively.
    What we have heard from States is that they have had 
difficulty spending those resources in the amount of time that 
the grant period allows for. So we are working with States, and 
we would be happy to work with the committee to address any of 
those drawdown questions that you have.
    Mr. Guthrie. OK. Is there opportunities to include other 
things such as alcohol abuse?
    I was on jury duty, I did my civic duty about 3 years ago, 
and grand jury about--of 20 cases a day that came before us. It 
was amazing to me how many were alcohol-related.
    Mr. Coderre. Certainly, you know, alcohol becomes--it is a 
major issue in this country. Alcohol use disorder is impacting 
millions of Americans.
    So we at SAMHSA are working as closely with States and 
local communities as possible to make programming available to 
them. The SOAR program itself is specific to opioids and 
stimulant use disorder. However, we would be happy to work with 
the committee on any of those, expanding that program in any 
way that we can.
    Mr. Guthrie. OK. Also, Mr. Coderre, the Comprehensive 
Opioid Recovery Centers was an issue I championed. We need to 
have access to all types of treatment and wraparound services. 
Could you talk about that program, and what has been 
successful?
    Mr. Coderre. Certainly, Mr. Chairman. That program----
    Mr. Guthrie. And improvements. What was successful in any 
improvements? So that is what we are here to--what can we----
    Mr. Coderre. Sure. Well, as you said, the Comprehensive 
Opioid Recovery Center Program provides grants to nonprofit SUD 
treatment organizations to operate those comprehensive centers 
and provide that full spectrum of treatment and recovery 
support for opioid use disorders.
    Grantees are required to provide outreach and the full 
continuum of treatment services, including medications for 
opioid use disorder, counseling, treatment for mental 
disorders, testing for infectious diseases. Very, very 
comprehensive, as you pointed out.
    And so, with that appropriation of $6 million, SAMHSA 
funded 5 of these centers in fiscal year 2022. The grantees 
utilized the funding to expand access to comprehensive service 
in a variety of ways.
    Mr. Guthrie. Would you view that as successful?
    I am going to get to a couple other questions. Would you 
view that as successful?
    Mr. Coderre. Yes, we view that program as very successful.
    Mr. Guthrie. And what do you think needs to be improved? Is 
there----
    Mr. Coderre. Improvements for it? Happy--I don't have any 
suggestions for improvements today, Mr. Chairman, but I would 
be happy to work with you and your staff.
    Mr. Guthrie. Absolutely. We want to make sure we get this 
right.
    Mr. Coderre. Absolutely.
    Mr. Guthrie. And we--after 5 years in all of your areas you 
talk about, what things can we do better? That is what we want 
to move forward.
    So Mr. Strait, having you here today, I can't help but talk 
about fentanyl analogs. And how simple is it to produce a 
fentanyl analog?
    And how many fentanyl analogs is DEA aware that you guys 
believe are out there?
    Mr. Strait. Yes, thank you for the question.
    At present, since this threat has kind of really emerged, 
we have scheduled a total of 36 individual analogs. Now, that 
would be after we have developed enough evidence to represent 
that they represent a risk to the public. That is when we would 
then use our emergency scheduling authority to take permanent 
action to control that substance. But there are hundreds of 
substances out there, and the ability to actually make an 
analog is slightly easy in that all you have to do is make a 
slight modification to any portion of the----
    Mr. Guthrie. So it really could almost be infinite, the 
combinations out there.
    Mr. Strait. There has been----
    Mr. Guthrie. Could be.
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. Questions about whether there is 
an infinite number, and I think that is theoretical. I think it 
is more likely that----
    Mr. Guthrie. Have you seen fewer analogs since the 
temporary scheduling took place?
    And do you think permanent scheduling would--should be 
continued, the temporary should be permanent?
    Mr. Strait. We absolutely believe the temporary scheduling 
should be permanent, and we have seen fentanyl analogs decrease 
in terms of their prevalence.
    Mr. Guthrie. OK, thank you. My time is expired. Thank you 
for your answers. And I now recognize the ranking member for 5 
minutes for her questions.
    Ms. Eshoo. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to each 
of the witnesses for your testimony, which is your work.
    Mr. Coderre, you are a source of inspiration to me, I think 
to everyone in this room, that you would choose to tell a 
story, and that it is your story. So thank you. Thank you.
    Mr. Coderre. Thank you.
    Ms. Eshoo. And thank God and everyone that helped you.
    To Mr. Blum, over 50 million Americans live with chronic 
pain, and this drives many individuals, you know, to seek 
relief through opioids. The SUPPORT Act section 6086, the Dr. 
Todd Graham Pain Management Study, required CMS to study and 
report on nonopioid therapeutic services for pain management 
for Medicare beneficiaries. The study was done in 2019.
    What is CMS doing to--in the meantime--to improve access to 
nonopioid treatment options to reduce pain?
    CMS hasn't issued the report, so this is a while. This is--
how many years--2019 is, what, 4 years ago. So where is the 
report, and what is CMS doing in the meantime?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question.
    We believe that one of the greatest challenges that our CMS 
programs have is not having sufficient access to those that 
treat chronic pain. So we need to do more to expand CMS----
    Ms. Eshoo. Yes, well, that is a given. That is a given. 
Everyone, I think, would agree to that. But where is the 
report? When do you think it is going to be issued? And in the 
absence of it, what has been--what has CMS----
    Mr. Blum. Sure.
    Ms. Eshoo. What has CMS been doing?
    Mr. Blum. I will get back to your office with a status 
report for the status--for the report. But in the meantime, CMS 
works tirelessly to expand physician networks to ensure that we 
have a better coverage for pain management services.
    Ms. Eshoo. Something is really wrong that a report is--it 
seems, from where I sit, that this is just forgotten. So we 
need to--the committee needs to get that information.
    To CDC and DEA, in the past year deaths and severe medical 
complications have soared due to xylazine. That is a drug that 
is--currently has veterinary and agricultural uses--being mixed 
into street drugs. It is just astounding to me what is taking 
place.
    And I would also like to know from both Mr. Jones and Mr. 
Strait, do you have the data capabilities to track emerging 
drug threats like xylazine?
    And do you know where there are hotspots?
    And can you identify the trends to prevent these overdoses?
    I mean, people are using. And so it seems as if, you know, 
there is constantly a new--something that is introduced. People 
are just using. They don't--in terms of this scheduling 
business, I don't think they check out to see what is 
scheduled. They are using drugs, and those that are peddling 
them are constantly introducing all these others.
    So what is your capacity for, you know, for--as I said, do 
you have the data capabilities to track these drug threats?
    Dr. Jones. Thanks for the question. At CDC we put out our 
first notes from the field on xylazine in September of 2021. So 
almost 2 years ago, we started sounding the alarm that we were 
seeing xylazine pop up in certain communities, and that was 
consistent with data from DEA. And those data come from our 
State Unintentional Drug Overdose Reporting System, which is a 
system that we support----
    Ms. Eshoo. So you do have the capability?
    Dr. Jones. So we have--yes. That system captures very 
granular toxicology information on deaths, and States have 
access to those data through our Overdose Data to Action 
program. We use that to raise awareness.
    We recently also published through checking of drug 
paraphernalia syringes in Maryland, sort of a novel approach to 
trying to identify emerging threats, we also saw that xylazine 
was very common in that area as well--again, consistent with 
what information comes from DEA.
    So we are continuing to try to raise awareness of those 
data systems that do exist, but also continuing to look for 
additional opportunities to get ahead of new emerging threats.
    Ms. Eshoo. Thank you. My time is expired.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair now recognizes the Chair of the full committee, Chair 
Rodgers, for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mrs. Rodgers. CBO recently found that States that lifted 
the IMD exclusion, whether through 1115 waiver or through the 
SUPPORT Act's State plan option, saw reductions in emergency 
room visits for overdoses. Nearly 40 States have chosen to lift 
the IMD exclusion.
    As we work to reauthorize the SUPPORT Act State plan 
option, a key goal is ensuring that we increase uptake of these 
options and reduce State burden. So, Mr. Blum, how long does it 
take to approve an 1115 waiver from the start of the State's 
process to the final CMS approval compared to a State plan 
option to get approved in, and would you speak to the 
difference in how long it takes?
    Mr. Blum. For States, CMS works carefully to approve 
waivers. Those timelines can vary. They can be dependent on the 
complexity to the waiver. So there is no set rule of thumb that 
we can provide that would say this is how long it takes to 
approve a State waiver. They have to go through notice 
requirements, they have to go through public requirements. But 
in general, that--it takes longer for a State waiver than a 
State plan.
    Mrs. Rodgers. Can you give us a sense--is it months or 
years?
    Mr. Blum. I would say months.
    Mrs. Rodgers. Months? The value of lifting the IMD 
exclusion is clear. Now is the perfect chance to find a way to 
reduce State burdens and find a more permanent solution to 
lifting the IMD exclusion.
    There has been a lot of discussion about how to lower 
overdose rates and set individuals up for success upon leaving 
jail or prison. Mr. Blum, the SUPPORT Act allows States to 
suspend Medicaid coverage when an individual is incarcerated 
rather than terminate their coverage, and the goal being that 
suspending coverage would mean that an individual can more 
easily resume Medicaid coverage upon their release from prison.
    Would you speak to the technical assistance that CMS 
provided to States to help clarify their ability to suspend 
coverage for individuals, and do you see States doing this?
    Mr. Blum. So CMS today is very excited to work with States 
to help them build programs that ensure better continuity of 
care. We recognize that those that are leaving prison often 
times have tremendous breaks to their care, to their coverage. 
So today CMS is eager to work with States to help to improve 
those programs.
    Mrs. Rodgers. How many States are doing this?
    Mr. Blum. I will have to get back to you with that precise 
number, but it is relatively small.
    Mrs. Rodgers. OK. Thank you.
    Mr. Strait, in your written testimony it discusses the work 
DEA has done with Bureau of Prisons to enable them to provide 
medication-assisted treatment. Have you seen more of this care 
provided, especially prerelease?
    Mr. Strait. Well, that action culminated in March of 2023, 
so I would probably say it is a little early to know the 
consequences of it, but we do think that was an important step. 
We granted NTP, or opioid treatment program designation, to all 
97 BOP facilities, greatly impacting access there.
    Mrs. Rodgers. OK, thank you. I would like to quickly flag 
my concerns with CMS's 1115 waivers to allow for Medicaid to 
pay for care for inmates in jails and prisons. I questioned the 
authority of the agency to do this. And these new waivers 
appear to be far from budget neutral, a key 1115 waiver 
requirement. The section of support you cite in your testimony 
as rationale for this only required innovative strategies and 
did not give authority to waive budget neutrality. And I hope 
that we can find a way forward on these policies that are 
ultimately authorized and actually authorized by Congress.
    Mr. Coderre, your written testimony indicates that over 85 
percent of SAMHSA's prevention resources are dedicated to 
youth-focused primary prevention activities. Mr. Jones' written 
testimony includes a tragic statistic: drug overdose deaths or, 
more likely, poisonings among younger-aged people, 10 to 19, 
have risen 65 percent from July 2019 to December 2021, even 
though overall youth illicit substance use declined. How do you 
measure the success of these primary intervention programs?
    Mr. Coderre. Thanks so much for your question, Madam Chair.
    SAMHSA's prevention programs are vital to providing mental 
health and substance use services, and we are working closely 
with our partners in the State and local communities to provide 
resources to enact these programs. I would be happy to work 
with you and your staff to get you some of the data from those 
programs about the measures of success. We have lots of those 
that we collect through our data systems, and we can--we are 
happy to provide those to you.
    Mrs. Rodgers. Well, we are moving in the wrong direction, 
so we need to look at what is actually going to get results is 
my point.
    Mr. Coderre. Thank you.
    Mrs. Rodgers. OK, thank you.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The Chair yields back. The Chair 
now recognizes the ranking member, Mr. Pallone, for 5 minutes 
for----
    Mr. Pallone. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My questions are all 
of Mr. Blum, and mainly about the IMD program.
    I want to make sure that, in our rush to respond to the 
opioid epidemic, we do not inadvertently create different 
problems as the unintended consequences of our actions. And I 
am particularly concerned that further weakening the 
Institution for Mental Disease, or IMD, exclusion in Medicaid 
could lead to an increase in institutionalization that would 
further isolate individuals struggling with substance use 
disorders.
    So Mr. Blum, 5 years ago the SUPPORT Act authorized a 
temporary Medicaid State plan amendment that created an 
exception to the IMD exclusion for individuals with substance 
use disorder. In the 5 years since, how many States have 
adopted this option?
    Mr. Blum. Two States, Congressman.
    Mr. Pallone. Two. Only two. I mean, it sounds like this has 
not been a very popular policy on the ground.
    So I wanted to address the fact that States already have 
options to receive Federal Medicaid funds for certain States in 
an IMD. They can use the longstanding authority in Medicaid-
managed care known as in-lieu-of services to cover short-term 
stays in IMDs of up to 15 days each month, and States can also 
use 1-1-1-5--pronounced ``11 15''--waivers to cover longer 
stays in IMDs, as long as the State average length of stay is 
less than 30 days.
    So again, Mr. Blum, how many States currently have these 
1115 waivers to cover IMD stays for substance use disorder?
    Mr. Blum. Thirty-four States, plus DC.
    Mr. Pallone. OK. So, in other words, the overwhelming 
majority of States have adopted the 1115 waivers to cover IMD 
stays for beneficiaries with substance use disorder, and only 2 
States have adopted the expiring State plan option. Is that 
what you have basically said?
    Mr. Blum. Yes, sir, that is correct.
    Mr. Pallone. All right. Well, thank you.
    I mean, again, it sounds to me like, for States that do not 
want to cover IMD stays--that do want to cover the IMD stays, I 
should say--the 115--or the 1115 waivers are a much more 
popular approach than the State plan option that the 
Republicans are attempting to extend. And I think we would be 
far better off allowing States to cover IMD stays with 1115 
waivers, which CMS does not need any additional statutory 
authority to approve, rather than doubling down on the--what I 
consider a failed approach of the State plan amendment.
    Now, again, I mean, I am saying this because I wasn't--you 
know, I am always very wary of IMDs and institutionalization. 
And so, you know, I think we should just continue with the 
1115s rather than trying to expand, you know, this State 
amendment that allows for expanded IMD.
    But I also wanted to ask you one more question unrelated to 
IMDs. We have heard from a number--or I should say I have heard 
from a number of advocates that, rather than investing more 
Federal dollars towards institutional care, we should instead 
focus on supporting treatment options that allow individuals to 
stay in the community. Obviously, that is always my preference, 
and I think most Members feel that way.
    So, Mr. Blum, can you talk about the value of home and 
community-based care for individuals in recovery?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. One of the principles 
that we feel very strongly about is that when helping to 
support States to design their programs, that those programs 
should provide the full spectrum to care options that best 
serve the patient, given where they want to receive services.
    We know that many patients want to receive services in 
nonhospital settings. We have recently worked with States to 
expand services, for example, in schools that really provide 
services where people are. So our core principle is to work 
with States carefully to ensure that services are provided with 
the full spectrum that ensure that patients can receive 
services where they are most comfortable.
    Mr. Pallone. No, I appreciate that. And again, you know, I 
know it is difficult because a lot of times when you talk about 
community-based care, there are those in the community that--
you know, a not-in-my-back-yard type of thing, right?
    But I just think that when we have resources--and they are 
always limited--we are better putting them towards treatment 
options that support community integration and keep people in 
the community, rather than institutionalization. So that is my 
view, and I appreciate your input, Mr. Blum.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentleman yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Burgess for 5 minutes for questions.
    Dr. Burgess.
    Mr. Burgess. Thank you, Chairman.
    Dr. Jones, from the perspective of the CDC, does this 
country have a problem with homelessness?
    Dr. Jones. Certainly, there are many communities that are 
struggling with people experiencing homelessness, yes.
    Mr. Burgess. So let me just ask you a question. Is one of 
the root causes--people like to talk about root causes--is one 
of the root causes of homelessness untreated mental disease and 
untreated addiction?
    Dr. Jones. We see certainly higher prevalence rates of 
mental health and substance use disorders among people 
experiencing----
    Mr. Burgess. So, OK, let me just--let me boil it down for 
you: What we are doing may not be working, and so we could do a 
lot more of it and hurt people in the--as a consequence.
    But, Mr. Blum, your comments and your back-and-forth with 
the ranking member of the full committee, it seems logical that 
you would try to help those people who have untreated mental 
disease and who want help with addiction, who are not able to 
receive it, and thereby not be subject to the degree of 
homelessness and misery that they currently are. Is that not a 
fair statement?
    Mr. Blum. We believe strongly that we need to expand 
services and do so in a way that provides the full spectrum of 
care services.
    Mr. Burgess. So I have a number of things, Mr. Chairman, 
that I am going to ask inclusion in the record, and one of them 
is a letter from the Schizophrenia and Psychosis Action 
Alliance. And within their letter they talk about the IMD 
exclusion is a manufactured and artificial scarcity of public 
and private psychiatric hospital beds resulting in sky-high 
utilization of hospital emergency departments among persons 
with severe mental illnesses.
    In fact, the American College of Emergency Physicians 
reports a persistent boarding crisis in hospital emergency 
rooms with individuals in psychiatric crisis. Is that a fair 
statement from the Schizophrenia & Psychosis Association?
    Mr. Blum. I haven't seen the letter, Congressman, but I can 
tell you that, through personal travels, that we hear very 
similar statements.
    Mr. Burgess. Correct. Boarding in our emergency rooms is 
literally at a crisis level. And one of the reasons for that is 
trying to get a bed for someone who requires hospitalization. 
And I just submit that the IMD exclusion is making this--well, 
certainly not helping that problem. And that is why it is 
important for us to be evaluating it.
    So just in general, Mr. Blum, the United States, we have 
got a significant mental health and substance abuse crisis, 
increasingly difficult to manage.
    Mr. Strait, I agree with you. The border issue is--man, oh, 
man, that is front and center. And if you all take any 
information back to your counterparts in the administration, 
that is one that has to be fixed. But limited treatment options 
for substance abuse and mental health and barriers to--access 
to comprehensive care, especially for Medicaid beneficiaries, 
that plays a role.
    CBO, I do have a CBO estimate on this. It is high. And Mr. 
Chairman, I would like to insert that for the record, as well.
    But the cost of doing nothing is staggering. So yes, we can 
look at the CBO, look at the CBO score and say, oh, that is so 
big we really can't do anything about it, but we have to do 
something about it. It is our obligation to do something about 
it.
    So, Mr. Blum, staying with you, how have States applied the 
1115 waiver to lift the IMD exclusion to improve access to care 
for substance abuse disorders?
    Mr. Blum. There are 34 States that have moved forward with 
that option.
    Mr. Burgess. Yes. And just as an aside, it was extremely 
difficult to get the 1115 waiver extended in the State of Texas 
when the administration changed from the Trump administration 
to the Biden administration. The Trump administration gave a 
10-year extension of the 1115 waiver for the State of Texas. 
The Biden administration came in and 4 months later said, ``No, 
we are not going to extend. We have made a mistake. It is not 
going to be extended at all.''
    It took a full year--a full year--to get that extension of 
the 1115 waiver. And that is why it is difficult using the 1115 
waiver, because it is not necessarily assured that it is going 
to continue, for political reasons, from one administration to 
the next.
    Mr. Chairman, I have got a number of questions that I am 
going to submit for the record.
    And I do have the CBO score and various letters that I 
would also like to submit for the record, without objection.
    Mr. Guthrie. I think we are going to do an action at the 
end of all the letters on the record, so we will make sure 
everybody has a chance to review those. But yes, those--we will 
put those on our list for the end of the--unless you have any--
you would rather review.
    No objection? If there is no objection, so they are so 
ordered, yes.
    [The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.]
    Mr. Guthrie. Now the Chair now--the gentleman yields back. 
The Chair recognizes Ms. Kuster for 5 minutes for questions.
    Ms. Kuster. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to our 
witnesses for your testimony. And I apologize when we are 
scheduled for two hearings at once.
    Your leadership highlights the importance of our Federal 
agencies working together to address the addiction crisis. As 
the founder and co-Chair of the bipartisan Mental Health and 
Substance Use Disorder Task Force here in Congress, I am glad 
we are dedicating time to discuss the issues posed by the co-
occurring mental health and substance use disorder illnesses.
    We must do more to respond to these challenges. We all have 
a role to play in reducing the stigma around mental health and 
addiction. CDC data shows that around 300 Americans die every 
day from drug overdoses--300 mothers, fathers, sisters, 
brothers. We know the number of people suffering from mental 
health challenges is even higher than that. And this hearing 
comes at a critical time for this committee.
    I would like to highlight some of the opportunities we have 
to improve the SUPPORT Act during reauthorization. I am excited 
that today's hearing includes two important bills that will 
change the outdated Medicaid inmate exclusion policy: the 
Medicaid Reentry Act, from my colleague, Representative Paul 
Tonko; and the Due Process Continuity of Care Act from my 
colleague, Representative David Trone. Letting people who are 
incarcerated keep their Medicaid coverage will support healthy 
communities and ultimately save State and taxpayer dollars.
    My bill, the Humane Correctional Health Care Act, would 
actually end the Medicaid exclusion--inmate exclusion policy 
altogether, and I totally support the efforts of my colleagues 
to chip away at this harmful policy.
    I am also glad that today's hearing includes my bill with 
Representative Buddy Carter, the Studying Suboxone Act, which 
will increase accessibility to this important medication that 
helps people with opioid use disorder.
    The Star LRP reauthorization bill is an important tool that 
we must support to expand our behavioral health workforce.
    However, there are bills that we are not discussing today 
that should be a part of this conversation. My bill with 
Representative Lisa Blunt Rochester, Stop Fentanyl Overdoses, 
is a comprehensive, bipartisan approach to reducing the harms 
of the opioid crisis, leveraging many of the programs that have 
been discussed today.
    Additionally, expanding access to methadone for opioid use 
disorder beyond the restrictive setting of opioid treatment 
programs will enable more people to seek this treatment. And I 
support Representative Norcross' bill.
    I also worked with several of my E&C colleagues to reach 
out to both DEA and SAMHSA to maintain telehealth prescribing 
for buprenorphine, allowing for continued access to a critical 
medication for people with opioid use disorder.
    Mr. Blum, in your testimony you highlight research that the 
expanded availability of telehealth services and medication 
during the pandemic was associated with fewer fatal drug 
overdoses for people on Medicare. Can you explain how 
telehealth is specifically important in the prescribing of 
medications for opioid use disorder?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. We saw tremendous 
growth in telehealth services throughout the country during the 
pandemic, particularly for behavioral health services. And we 
feel that we believe that maintaining access to these services 
is crucially important for many patients, that it helps to 
promote access.
    There are still many questions that we have to better 
understand for what is the right payment level, for what is the 
right processes for us to ensure broad access to those 
services. But in general, we are very supportive to 
continuation for telehealth services for these services.
    Ms. Kuster. Great. Thank you very much. I look forward to 
hearing more from both DEA and SAMHSA before the November 
expiration of this rule.
    Today's hearing demonstrates that we must take an all-of-
government approach to addressing the mental health and 
substance use disorder crisis that is affecting, literally, 
every single community in our country.
    I thank my colleagues for committing to a bipartisan 
reauthorization that will meet the needs of our constituents. 
And with that, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair now recognizes Mr. Griffith for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Griffith. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
    Dr. Jones, I helped lead section 7161 of the SUPPORT Act in 
2018 that would support and improve prescription drug 
monitoring programs. My thought was the money authorized for 
that was to start up the programs and increase collaboration 
across State lines. The bill that reauthorizes this section is 
in front of us today--authorizes an increase in funding.
    So can you elaborate--so, one, can you elaborate how the 
money in this program is being spent between agencies and 
States?
    And two, if the systems are already in place--we already 
did the startup from the last bill--explain to us why there is 
a need for an increase in the funding.
    Dr. Jones. Thank you very much for the question. And 
through our Overdose Data to Action program, that is how we 
provide funding to States to support Prescription Drug 
Monitoring Program work. The Bureau of Justice Assistance, who 
is not here today, is the other Federal funder of PDMPs.
    In our work, you are correct, the systems, you know, 4 or 5 
years ago--or still getting started in some States--are moving 
from paper-based systems to electronic-based systems. So we 
have made great progress over the last several years in having 
electronic systems that exist, having regular and very current 
reporting from pharmacies to the PDMP, and improving interstate 
data sharing across.
    I think where there continue to be opportunities is to 
integrate the PDMP data into electronic health records, 
clinical decision support. It is an important piece of 
information for clinicians to have, and we don't want them to 
have to go to a separate system that disrupts their workflow. 
So I think there is opportunity there, and better integration 
in clinical workflow.
    And then from a data analysis perspective, it is also an 
important tool for health departments to understand what are 
overall prescribing trends in a State, how are things changing, 
where might they target educational resources.
    So States have used our funding to not only have staff to 
be able to analyze those data more regularly, but then also to 
have academic detailers go out and say, ``Here is an area where 
we are seeing some troubling trends. What might be driving 
this? Can we help improve knowledge about appropriate 
prescribing of opioids or other pain management options? Or are 
we seeing a place where we might want to expand access to 
buprenorphine?'' Because there is a desert for access to MOUD.
    Mr. Griffith. And I appreciate that. And I am carrying the 
bill again, but I wanted to make sure on the funding side that 
I had a good defense for it. And you have presented that. Thank 
you.
    Mr. Strait, we were just talking about buprenorphine. With 
DEA's proposed rule on March 1, 2023, that will ease in-person 
requirements to be prescribed the controlled substance--a 
controlled substance via telemedicine. And I am for 
telemedicine.
    That being said, in some parts of my district it is being 
reported that buprenorphine, Suboxone, is being used as a 
street drug, that they are taking some and not taking some. So 
does the DEA track the prescription patterns or prescribing 
patterns on buprenorphine so we can see if expanding the number 
of patients any one doctor can have, and having telemedicine--
are we going to be prepared to keep an eye on that to make sure 
this doesn't become a problem in and of itself?
    Mr. Strait. Thank you for that question. It is a great 
question.
    And what I would tell you is that the best experience we 
have is what happened during COVID, when telemedicine 
flexibilities existed. And what I will say as a general matter 
is we did not see a, you know, an increase in diversion or 
misuse of buprenorphine.
    I think the other piece is knowing that it is widely 
dispensed in combination--as Suboxone, when it is in 
combination with naloxone, tremendously helps toward that end 
of ensuring that it is not going to be misused.
    Mr. Griffith. So what you are telling me is you are, in 
fact, tracking----
    Mr. Strait. Absolutely.
    Mr. Griffith [continuing]. It. OK, good. And in regard to 
the three-day rule--and you amend the three-day rule for 
dispensing medication for opioid use disorder--do you plan to 
have a monitoring system in place for that, as well?
    Mr. Strait. I am sorry. The three-day rule?
    Mr. Griffith. Yes. There is going to be--apparently, the 
Department of Justice is releasing an amendment to the three-
day rule for dispensing so that you can get a longer 
prescription.
    Mr. Strait. Yes.
    Mr. Griffith. Do you plan to monitor that for abuse, as 
well?
    Mr. Strait. Absolutely. And in fact, we have been granting 
exception letters in all 50 States to mostly hospitals. That 
has been going on for about the last year and a half as well, 
so that they can already--during the pendency of our 
rulemaking, they can already do----
    Mr. Griffith. All right.
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. A three-day.
    Mr. Griffith. And Dr. Jones, back to you, and I am running 
out of time. Can you explain briefly how the CDC's high 
resolution libraries function, and what research is being done 
into fentanyl analogs on your end?
    Dr. Jones. Yes, this is an active area for our National 
Center for Environmental Health, where they have really been 
leaders in developing new testing methods as well as sharing 
reference materials to public health and clinical labs.
    So we have expanded beyond fentanyl, fentanyl analogs to 
synthetic stimulants, benzodiazepines, cannabinoids. We have 
over 300 in the high reference lab at this point.
    Mr. Griffith. All right. I would love a longer answer, but 
my time is up and I must yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentleman yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Cardenas for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Cardenas. Thank you very much, Chairman Guthrie, and 
also Ranking Member Eshoo, for holding this hearing at this 
very critical time in our country. As we navigate a worsening 
substance use disorder crisis in this country, it is critical 
we come together to fund a Federal response that matches the 
severity of this emergency.
    I am especially grateful to see the bill I am leading with 
Rep. John James. It has been noticed. Thank you so much. The 
Road to Recover Act will provide necessary resources to ensure 
the National Peer-Run Training and Technical Assistance Center 
for Addiction Recovery Support can assist individuals in need.
    My first question is to Mr. Coderre.
    Can you explain why the center is a helpful resource for 
community organizations and peer support networks, and why is 
peer support so critical to addressing those struggling with 
substance use disorder?
    Mr. Coderre. Well, thank you so much for that question, 
Congressman.
    For me personally, peer support was essential for my 
recovery. Peer support taught me that I was not alone. Peer 
support taught me that treatment is effective, that people do 
recover. And so peer support workers are folks who have been 
successful in the recovery process and are able to help others 
who are in similar situations through understanding, respect, 
mutual empowerment. And the workers help people become and stay 
engaged in their recovery process.
    So the peer support services definitely can effectively 
expand the reach of treatment beyond that clinical setting that 
you referred to into everyday environment of those who are 
seeking sustained recovery.
    Mr. Cardenas. Thank you very much.
    I also want to take a moment to discuss institutions for 
mental health disease exclusion, also known as IMD exclusion. 
Medicaid's IMD exclusion limits Federal Medicaid dollars to 
States for inpatient mental health services at facilities with 
no more than 16 beds. And by the way, I am still trying to 
figure out how we came up with the number 16. It is mind 
boggling.
    Unfortunately, while the intent of the restriction was 
good, it has reduced the number of options for people who need 
certain levels of mental healthcare. With fewer care 
alternatives, more and more individuals end up in jail rather 
than getting the mental health services they need. In fact, 
half of the individuals in our jails across America today have 
been diagnosed with some kind of mental illness, as compared to 
about one-fifth of the broader U.S. population.
    Now, I want to be clear. I am not saying that relaxing some 
of those IMD restrictions should come at the expense of 
community-based services, and I certainly think we need to take 
a measured approach with safeguards in place. In fact, without 
guardrails I would be hesitant to repeal existing restrictions.
    That being said, we are trying to address a massive mental 
health crisis, and we need to have a full set of care options. 
There are some individuals who are struggling with substance 
use disorder or other mental health issues who may need 
inpatient care. I am worried that by maintaining a broad 
exclusion, we are leaving out most middle-income and low-income 
families across our country that need access to quality care 
and necessary care.
    Mr. Blum, I have heard from advocates who have concerns 
about the treatment patients receive in IMD settings. It is 
because of these conversations that I have been thinking 
through ways to promote the highest quality care and ensure 
accountability. One idea that comes to mind is creating certain 
standards of care that must be met for reimbursement. Would 
this be something CMS would be interested in working with us 
on?
    And if so, what types of considerations should we be sure 
to keep in mind?
    Mr. Blum. I am happy to work with you, Congressman, that 
question. Today CMS maintains a robust criteria for all care 
settings, be it behavioral health or just general healthcare 
services. We are happy to work with you to find ways to define 
services that are safe and high quality.
    Mr. Cardenas. OK. Why is it important to ensure robust 
funding for community-based services for people dealing with 
mental health issues?
    Mr. Blum. What we learned from States, working with States, 
working with care systems--that patients prefer care in 
different settings. And so we believe very strongly that, to 
build the strongest possible systems, that patients need to 
receive services that will best serve their needs. And so that 
is one important principle that CMS works to maintain 
throughout any conversation with the State.
    Mr. Cardenas. Is the emergency room a good place for 
somebody in a mental health crisis situation to be getting 
care?
    Mr. Blum. What we hear from clinicians is those settings 
tend to be chaotic. They tend to be noisy. They tend to be not 
the best care setting for patients.
    Mr. Cardenas. Well, that is where too much care is being 
handled, and we need to make sure we have the infrastructure to 
do otherwise. So thank you very much, I appreciate it very 
much.
    Mr. Chairman, my time is expired. I yield back.
    Mr. Bucshon [presiding]. The gentleman yields back. I now 
recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    Never mind. Mr. Latta.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Bucshon. Mr. Latta, I recognize Mr. Latta for 5 minutes 
for his line of questioning.
    Mr. Latta. Well, I thank the chairman. And also, I 
appreciate the witnesses being here today.
    It probably was announced a little bit earlier we have two 
hearings running today, and I am chairing the one downstairs 
right now. But we really appreciate your testimony today, and 
this is really an important hearing.
    The United States has continued to fight an endless battle 
against the faceless enemy that knows no boundaries, and that 
enemy is the decades-long fight against substance abuse and 
addiction.
    I want to start by saying addiction can happen to anyone.
    I am saddened, after all the great work this committee has 
accomplished at fighting addiction, we are still having these 
discussions. However, I am optimistic that, with improvements 
that are offered today in the SUPPORT Act reauthorization, we 
will have a--be better positioned to provide access to care 
resources to those suffering and save lives.
    [Chart shown.]
    Mr. Latta. And this is important because, you know, one of 
the little graphs that was handed out earlier today in our 
binders, it just shows--the graph here just shows the number of 
deaths from overdoses, and this only goes through 2021. But we 
also know that was 106,000, almost 107,000 in 2021. We know it 
is up to 109,000. It is not going down, it is going up.
    And the other thing about these is, you know, if we look at 
a graph, we just see statistics. These are humans. And so I 
think this is why it is important that we are having this 
discussion today.
    And again, I am proud that you are all--that I am leading 
legislation with my friend, the gentleman from California's 
25th district who was included in today's hearing. It is a step 
in the right direction.
    In addition, I am also proud that the House passed the HALT 
Fentanyl Act earlier this year that I co-led with my friend and 
colleague, the gentleman from Virginia.
    If I could start with Mr. Strait, tragically, the United 
States, you know, passed the second year in a row of over 
100,000--109,000, to be more accurate--overdose deaths, of 
which one county sheriff told us we shouldn't really be talking 
about overdoses. In a lot of cases we should be talking about 
these are poisonings, not an overdose. And in some cases it is 
outright murder, and especially when we saw that, with 
fentanyl-related, that we went up to over 73,000 people passing 
because of it. Do you see--are there any other legislative 
proposals now brought before this committee today that would be 
a game changer in fighting addiction?
    Mr. Strait. Well, from DEA's perspective, the single most 
important aspect of our ability to infiltrate and to prevent 
these controlled substances from--or these substances from 
crossing our borders and being distributed by violent street 
gangs is through its control under the CSA. That gives law 
enforcement--not only ourselves, but our law enforcement 
counterparts at the border, our folks that are interdicting 
mail packages and mail parcels--with authority to seize.
    And then, obviously, it gives us to work--the authority to 
work backwards and arrest individuals for trafficking those 
substances. So schedule I control is, by far, the biggest 
single thing that can be done to help us.
    Mr. Latta. Well, I think that is absolutely correct, and I 
know that--the Chair earlier had talked about that, permanently 
scheduling fentanyl-related substances. But it is also 
important that, you know, again, we just have to get this thing 
done, and it has got to be a schedule I.
    And let me just ask, you know, just yes or no, do you 
believe that permanently scheduling fentanyl-related substances 
as schedule I is needed, no matter what the mandatory 
requirements are out there?
    Mr. Strait. Yes.
    Mr. Latta. Yes, and I think just real briefly on that, on 
the mandatories--because I think, when you look at it, it is 
100 grams of fentanyl. That is--if you take that out to what it 
turns out to be, that is 50,000 lethal doses that someone--that 
you could kill somebody with. And I think that is really 
absolutely important.
    Dr. Jones, do we anticipate any more aggressive substances 
that could be more deadly than fentanyl to enter the illegal 
drug market?
    Dr. Jones. We certainly see the proliferation of a variety 
of synthetic drugs coming in. And as was discussed earlier, it 
is fairly straightforward to modify the chemical structures.
    So we have seen nonfentanyl-based synthetic opioids like 
nitazenes emerge in the U.S. drug market. So it is very 
possible that other substances could be created and trafficked 
into the U.S. Whether they are opioids or synthetic 
benzodiazepines, cannabinoids, or synthetic stimulants, we see 
sort of a constellation of synthetic drugs that are fairly 
straightforward and easy to produce in labs.
    Mr. Latta. Well, I appreciate that.
    And Mr. Chairman, my time has expired and I yield back.
    Mr. Bucshon. The gentleman yields back. I now recognize Ms. 
Kelly for her 5 minutes for questions.
    Ms. Kelly. Thank you, Chair Guthrie and Ranking Member 
Eshoo, for holding today's critically important hearing.
    In Illinois, the leading cause of pregnancy-related deaths 
is due to mental health conditions, including substance use 
disorders, which comprise 40 percent of pregnancy-related 
deaths. This aligns with the national trend of substance use 
being a leading contributing factor of maternal death.
    Pregnant and postpartum women who misuse opioids are at a 
high risk for poor maternal outcomes, including preterm labor 
and complications related to delivery, problems frequently 
exacerbated by malnourishment, interpersonal violence, and 
other health-related social needs.
    Infants exposed to opioids before birth also face negative 
outcomes, with a higher risk of being born preterm, having a 
low birth weight, and experiencing the effects of neonatal 
abstinence syndrome, where babies go through drug withdrawals 
after birth.
    I am pleased to hear about all the investments from the 
different agencies to address substance use disorder and 
pregnant women.
    Mr. Blum, in your testimony you speak about the maternal 
opioid misuse model that has been established in seven States. 
I am elated that there are 983 women participating in the 
model. But how do we expand this program to increase 
participation, and what efforts are there to increase the 
diversity in the participation pool?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. This model is 
relatively new for CMS, and so we are still learning the 
overall data impacts. Participation has been relatively small, 
just about 900 or so beneficiaries. We want to expand that 
work. We want to really learn from what can be learned so far. 
But we agree that, for us to improve safety, to improve lives, 
to save mothers, to save babies, we have to better integrate 
services together.
    Ms. Kelly. And I would be interested in hearing, as you 
progress, how that is going. So thank you for your response.
    Surgery is among the most common indication for opioid 
initiative, as opioids are routinely described for preoperative 
pain management. Data suggests that there has been an increase 
in the amount of opioids dispensed following minor surgical 
procedures, and that many U.S. patients receive more opioids 
than necessary to treat their short-term pain. This is why I am 
happy to work with my partner, Rep. Balderson, to introduce 
H.R. 4093, the Remote Opioid Monitoring Act of 2023, which 
requires a GAO study on the use of remote monitoring for 
patients who are prescribed opioids to better understand the 
efficacy, individual outcomes, and potential cost savings from 
this tool.
    I am also married to an anesthesiologist, so we talk a lot 
about this.
    Dr. Coderre, thank you for sharing your story. Thank you so 
much. With so many individuals having access to opioids due to 
outpatient procedures, is there a standardized process to 
ensure a safe monitoring of patients prescribed opioids once 
they are discharged home, and what additional support should be 
provided?
    Mr. Coderre. Well, thanks so much for that question, 
Congresswoman.
    At SAMHSA, you know, we fund the full continuum of programs 
related to prevention, intervention, treatment, and recovery 
support. And so, as it relates to safe monitoring of opioids, 
that is not my area of expertise, but I would be happy to have 
our staff work with your staff to get you some data and some of 
the resources from some of our programs to respond to you.
    Ms. Kelly. That would be great. Also, is alcohol use 
disorder an allowable use of funds for other grant programs 
such as the Substance Use Prevention Treatment and Recovery 
Support Services Block Grant?
    Mr. Coderre. Thanks so much for that question. Yes, 
certainly, alcohol is an allowable use of State substance use 
block grant dollars. The Chair asked me earlier about the SOAR 
program, and I neglected to mention that, while SOAR is for 
opioids and stimulants, if somebody has a co-occurring alcohol 
use disorder, SOAR funds can also be used in that program.
    Ms. Kelly. So let me ask. Would adding alcohol use disorder 
as an allowable use for the State opioid response grant 
program--would that take away funds from the existing opioids 
response program?
    Mr. Coderre. Well, certainly, Congresswoman, it is a zero 
sum game. So if you add something to the program, there will be 
less resources available for the other parts. But as you point 
out, the substance use block grant is a vehicle that States are 
currently using to fund these programs, and we have a few other 
programs at SAMHSA that they are using, as well.
    Ms. Kelly. So I will just let you know I would support an 
increase in funding for a new program.
    Mr. Coderre. Thank you so much.
    Ms. Kelly. With that, I will yield back.
    Mr. Bucshon. The gentlelady yields back. I now recognize 
Mr. Bilirakis for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Bilirakis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it.
    I would like to ask for unanimous consent to insert into 
the record two letters, one from the American Veterinary 
Medical Association and key animal health and medicine 
stakeholder groups, and the other from 39 State attorneys 
general, both letters urging passage of the bipartisan bill I 
colead with Representatives Panetta and Representative Pfluger, 
the Combating Illicit Xylazine Act, H.R. 1839.
    Mr. Bucshon. Without objection.
    [The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.]
    Mr. Bilirakis. Thank you.
    Mr. Bucshon. So ordered.
    Mr. Bilirakis. I would also--thank you--I would like to ask 
for unanimous consent to insert into the record a letter from 
the National Association for Children's Behavioral Health in 
strong support of my bipartisan bill, the Ensuring Medicaid 
Continuity for Children on Foster Care Act, which I lead with 
Representative Castor.
    Mr. Bucshon. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.]
    Mr. Bilirakis. Thank you. So my first question is my bill 
will ensure that Qualified Residential Treatment Programs are 
exempt from being considered as institutions for mental 
disease, which are prohibited from drawing down Medicaid funds 
for medical services. QRTPs are one of the few residential 
settings that have strong oversight and accountability due to 
the Federal qualification accreditation requirements, improving 
outcomes for children with acute mental health needs.
    Unfortunately, QRTPs have been inadvertently--I really 
believe this--inadvertently considered as IMDs under the law, 
which could prevent additional options for foster children in 
need of care. I was glad to see CMS supports this change, since 
it allows States to lift the IMD exclusion for QRTPs under the 
1115 waiver. I do believe--I do not believe that QRTPs were 
ever intended to be considered IMDs.
    And while I strongly support the goal to ensure all foster 
children get placed in family home settings, unfortunately the 
reality is there is a shortage of licensed foster homes 
available for children in need of care--unfortunately, again, 
it is very sad--and reports have recently revealed some States 
have resorted to, believe it or not--and I have the article 
here--putting foster kids up in casino hotels and juvenile 
detention centers and other desperate settings since, sadly, 
they have nowhere else to go. We have got to rectify this.
    QRTPs can help fill this clear continuity of care, again, 
with the Medicaid program by providing qualified care on a 
temporary basis. So Mr. Blum, will you commit to working with 
us to ensure that foster children have the appropriate Medicaid 
coverage for medical services in appropriate settings that can 
provide care for their mental and behavioral health needs? If 
you could answer that, I would appreciate it.
    Mr. Blum. Yes, sir. We would be very happy to work with 
your office.
    Mr. Bilirakis. All right, very good. Next question. I don't 
have a lot of time. Next question.
    Dr. Jones, you spoke to CDC's Drug Overdose Surveillance 
and Epidemiology system and the work that is being done to 
collect and analyze data to better understand the opioid 
overdose epidemic. It seems to me that electronic health 
records and hospital discharge records may only provide a 
narrow scope of information, since many struggling may not 
officially use the healthcare system or seek care.
    As the substance abuse epidemic shifts, I believe we must 
also shift our data collection mechanisms. What role could 
wastewater surveillance, which is appealing because it protects 
individual privacy, play--so what role will it play in 
identifying clusters of drug utilization and changes in trends 
in suspected drug overdoses at the local, State, and regional 
levels? What role can that play, the wastewater surveillance, 
please, sir?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for the question. Certainly, we have 
seen the value of wastewater in response to COVID. We have used 
that same approach for Mpox and other infectious diseases.
    There are ongoing discussions about how do we best utilize 
the potential for wastewater surveillance in the overdose 
crisis. We have prioritized DOSE, which you mentioned, as a 
syndromic surveillance system, toxicology data, emergency 
medical services data, other data that can connect the 
substances being used with the outcomes we are trying to 
prevent.
    But there is an interagency group that is really thinking 
through what are the ethical resource needs, what are the 
community acceptability levels for drug-related wastewater 
testing. So it is an active area of discussion. I am certainly 
happy to come back to the committee and work with the committee 
as we continue to explore how best to use wastewater within the 
context of the systems we already have.
    Mr. Bilirakis. Please, I appreciate that. I think we are on 
to something.
    Thank you very much, and I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie [presiding]. Thank you, the gentleman yields 
back. The Chair now recognizes Dr. Schrier for 5 minutes for 
questions.
    Ms. Schrier. Thank you, Chair Guthrie, and thank you very 
much to the witnesses who are here today.
    In my State of Washington, like every other State that you 
have heard, substance use continues to rise, and overdeaths--
overuse deaths and overdoses have increased. And in fact, 
opioid drug overdose deaths in the State nearly doubled in just 
2 years, from 827 in 2019 to over 1,600 in 2021. And that 
number is continuing to rise, as we are seeing in every State.
    Fentanyl has dramatically added to this picture with 
profound and devastating impacts, including in people who have 
never used any drug before.
    In Chelan County, a rural county in the eastern part of my 
district, the coroner recently reported that the number of 
deaths adjusted for population is actually 10 times higher than 
the rest of the State. And I don't believe this is unique for 
rural America. The numbers and absolute numbers were from 6 to 
20, but when you look at that as a percentage of population, it 
is quite high.
    So the people in my district and all over this country are 
concerned. I have talked with parent groups about the hard 
conversations that they need to have with their children--I am 
also a pediatrician--so how to talk with your tweens and teens 
early about never accepting any pill from anyone other than a 
pharmacist. I have held multiple roundtables in my district to 
bring families together with local officials, law enforcement, 
behavioral health providers, schools to talk about the impact 
of opioids and fentanyl use. And I have had conversations with 
mayors and Homeland Security just about how we can prevent harm 
and stop this from flooding into our communities.
    I wanted to first focus on this epidemic in rural America 
because it seems to be hitting there even harder, despite what 
many might expect. As I mentioned, Commissioner Overbay told me 
about these increasing numbers. One of the worries in rural 
America, like with all other healthcare, is do we have the 
workforce and do we have the resources to treat substance use 
disorder there?
    And so, Administrator Espinosa, this question is for you. 
You talked about several programs specifically directed at 
rural populations. And I was wondering if you could just expand 
on those and how reauthorizing the SUPPORT Act will help in 
rural communities.
    Ms. Espinosa. Sure, thank you for the question. As I 
mentioned, you know, HRSA has a strong focus on supporting 
rural communities. As you note, there are unique issues there, 
particularly in the workforce.
    The Public Health Service Act Section 756 Program, which 
is--which the committee helped reauthorize in the omnibus, is a 
valuable tool for us. We are training professionals, clinical 
social workers, psychologists, and others. And a key factor is 
that we train them in community-based settings in rural and 
underserved areas. And the importance there is that people who 
train in areas are more likely to go on and practice there. In 
addition, while they are training, they are providing services 
in the community.
    We have also, through that program, supported families. So 
we have a family support program that focuses on community 
health workers, peer support professionals, because, as many 
have remarked, the substance use disorder issue impacts not 
just the individual, but their whole family and their 
community. And so those supports are particularly important for 
prevention, and also for making--helping people stay retained 
in care.
    And then----
    Ms. Schrier. Can I ask another--just a tangential question? 
Because you talked about mental health support, which is so 
important. But we also know that we just don't have the number 
of practitioners. Many of these substance use disorders began 
with an injury and with a need for good pain management. And so 
another thing I have heard in rural communities is, ``We don't 
have a pain medicine specialist anywhere near here who can help 
address that.'' Is that at all included, or is that one of the 
things you are focusing on?
    Ms. Espinosa. We have included pain management as a 
component in the programs that we have authorized. For example, 
we have an addiction medicine fellowship program. So in that 
training, pain management is a component there.
    Similarly for the graduate psychology program, where 
doctoral-level psychologists--so where we can, we are including 
that as a component of the training.
    Ms. Schrier. Thank you. It sounds like a great use of 
telemedicine.
    I only have 14 seconds left, so I am just going to 
highlight the importance of addressing adverse childhood 
experiences and ACEs in the risk for teens and children to, you 
know, become victims of substance use disorders.
    And I want to thank you, Dr. Jones. I was going to direct a 
question to you. I just want to thank you for focusing on 
children.
    Thank you, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Johnson for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Johnson. Well, thank you, Chairman Guthrie. You know, 
in 2021, according to the CDC, Ohio had the fourth-highest 
number of overdose deaths of any State in the Nation. Every day 
when I am back home in Ohio's 6th Congressional District I am 
told heart-wrenching stories about this plague that has swept 
across Appalachia and that has ended so many young lives. It is 
no secret that eastern Ohio, where I call home, has been hit 
particularly hard by the opioid crisis.
    As a member of the bipartisan Fentanyl Prevention Caucus 
and the bipartisan Mental Health and Substance Use Disorder 
Task Force, I have witnessed firsthand the power of bipartisan 
work in addressing the epidemic.
    Opioid addiction does not discriminate based on gender, 
age, race, social status, or political view. It takes no 
prisoners.
    The work that our committee, frequently recognized as the 
most bipartisan committee in Congress--the work that we have 
done to combat this scourge is one that I commend. Whether it 
be the SUPPORT Act, the largest, most comprehensive legislative 
response to the opioid crisis, or our continued work 
eliminating barriers to mental healthcare and telehealth 
services, these efforts are making a difference.
    So my first question goes to Dr. Jones.
    In your testimony you mentioned the CDC's Overdose Data to 
Action prevention program and how it is used to understand the 
drivers of overdoses. You specifically referenced my home State 
of Ohio. And in fact, the Stark County Health Department in my 
district is using a geographic information system to pinpoint 
areas in the county that are being hit hardest by opioids and 
then share that data online.
    Stark County, home to Canton and the Pro Football Hall of 
Fame, alone has seen over 500 overdose deaths since 2012. Could 
you explain the real-world life-and-death impacts that these 
types of data-sharing software and mapping has on communities? 
Are they helping bend this devastating curve in the other 
direction?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for your question.
    I mean, I think data are really foundational to 
understanding what is happening in a community, who is at risk, 
and how is risk changing, and where should we deploy resources. 
And that is really the goal of our support to health 
departments, is to use the near-real-time syndromic data, use 
emergency medical services data, use mortality data to really 
tell that story for a community.
    There might be assumptions that a community has that this 
area is more impacted than this area, but really using data to 
say, in fact, it is here where we need to be deploying 
resources--and so, especially with quick response teams, spikes 
in overdose with a toxic drug market, these near-real-time data 
allow communities to rush in resources to connect people 
postoverdose to care, so that they can receive lifesaving 
care----
    Mr. Johnson. In other words, follow the facts, follow the 
science, right, and you make better decisions.
    A key component to combating opioid abuse is addressing 
pain care and ensuring patients and providers are informed of 
the continuum of nonopioid pain therapies. In 2019 HHS released 
its Best Practices for Pain Management Task Force 
recommendations with the goal of improving safe, effective, 
evidence-based pain care in America. Unfortunately, the 
recommendations of this task force have not reached wide--
widely reached clinicians.
    So Mr. Blum--have I got that right? ``Bloom'' or ``Blum''?
    Mr. Blum. ``Blum,'' sir.
    Mr. Johnson. ``Blum''? I am sorry. What has HHS done to 
distribute the task force recommendations?
    And will you commit to developing and implementing a 
strategic plan to widely disseminate those recommendations to 
clinicians?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question, Congressman. We agree 
that CMS programs certainly need to do more to expand----
    Mr. Johnson. What has HHS done?
    Mr. Blum. We continue to work with care systems to identify 
better pathways for pain management services, but I am happy to 
work with you to find ways for us to improve.
    Mr. Johnson. OK, all right. Well, I had another question, 
but my time has expired and--or close to it. But thank you 
folks for being with us today. Obviously, we have got a lot of 
work to do to wrestle this scourge to the ground. And I 
appreciate all that you are doing to help us get there. Thank 
you for being here today.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentleman yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Sarbanes for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Sarbanes. Thanks very much, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to all 
of you for being here.
    We know it is a theme here today, and it is a persistent 
one in many hearings, that our communities are facing a mental 
and behavioral health crisis, and no community has been left 
untouched. We know that because every Member of Congress is 
stepping into this conversation in a meaningful way.
    I am pleased that the subcommittee is holding this hearing 
today to discuss the reauthorization of so many important 
programs that work to address these challenges.
    I do have to note that this week, unfortunately, however, 
the House will consider legislation to continue the 
Republicans' attempts at undoing the Affordable Care Act, to 
undercut the accessibility of comprehensive and quality 
healthcare coverage for millions of Americans across the 
country, including many with substance use disorders.
    The committee is also considering some legislation today 
that gives me some pause because I worry about it having 
potentially similar impacts. We all know that telehealth has 
been vital to improving timely access to care, particularly in 
underserved and rural communities, and there has been some real 
advances over the last few years--a lot of that forced by the 
pandemic--on the telehealth front. But I do have concerns with 
H.R. 824, the Telehealth Benefit Expansion for Workers Act.
    Contrary to what the title suggests, I think the bill could 
actually put workers at risk of losing their access to the 
comprehensive kind of health coverage that they should have. By 
expanding accepted benefits--that is a phrase we have come to 
know, accepted benefits programs, which is sort of a form of 
these junk plans that we worry about that aren't subject to the 
ACA's consumer protections--the proposal would allow more 
employers to offer these plans, these sort of less-than-
comprehensive and, really, in some cases, shoddy plans, instead 
of ensuring all eligible workers are able to enroll in 
comprehensive group health coverage.
    Accepted benefits are not subject to the ACA's protections 
for people with preexisting conditions or subject to the ACA's 
mental health parity requirements, and they aren't subject to 
the ACA's out-of-pocket spending limits, bans on annual or 
lifetime limits or the requirement that insurers spend at least 
80 percent of their premiums on actual healthcare, as opposed 
to CEO pay and profit.
    Mr. Blum, am I accurately characterizing what these 
accepted benefit plans are missing?
    Mr. Blum. I believe so, yes, sir.
    Mr. Sarbanes. Thank you very much. So a proposal like this 
would put vulnerable Americans, including those with mental and 
behavioral health challenges, at risk and without reason. Mr. 
Blum, is there any reason that employers who already have 
significant flexibility to offer telehealth coverage--I mean, 
you can do that as part of a plan--would they be prevented from 
doing so as part of their comprehensive coverage approach?
    Mr. Blum. No, sir.
    Mr. Sarbanes. Thank you. When we weaken consumer and parity 
protections, we are undercutting our response to the ongoing 
mental and behavioral healthcare crises and raising healthcare 
costs for everyone. Instead, we should be focusing our energy 
on building up programs that are proven to help address these 
challenges.
    I will switch gears here now and talk about one such 
program that is doing that. It is the Substance Use Disorder 
Treatment and Recovery, or STAR, Loan Repayment Program. I was 
pleased to be able to play a role in developing this program in 
2018, along with Chairman Guthrie, because I knew it was 
critical to create these kinds of incentives for individuals to 
serve their communities as behavioral healthcare providers.
    Ms. Espinosa, can you comment on the impact that this 
program has had in strengthening our behavioral healthcare 
workforce pipeline since its inception, and the resources that 
are necessary now to ensure that it can reach the most 
providers and ultimately promote access to care for the most 
patients?
    Ms. Espinosa. Thank you for the question, sir.
    The STAR LRP program has--is currently supporting 445 
people that are in the field providing direct patient care 
right now. We are going to make some additional awards this 
year by the end of the fiscal year, and that will be over 600. 
It has a tremendous impact in expanding the types of sites that 
can receive this type of support. Loan repayment is critical in 
some places in being able to attract the workforce that you 
need. It provides the providers--the employers an additional 
incentive that they can offer folks.
    And so we have also been able to greatly expand the types 
of providers. And so we are--these are people that are now 
working in both inpatient and outpatient, paraprofessionals 
that are working as peer support counselors and throughout the 
community. So it has had a significant impact in targeting that 
particular gap in supporting the workforce.
    Mr. Sarbanes. That is terrific. We look forward to hearing 
about how it continues to scale up.
    With that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentleman yields back. The 
Chair now recognizes Dr. Bucshon for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Bucshon. Thank you, Chairman Guthrie, and thank you to 
the witnesses for being here today.
    We have people in ERs, in jails, and on the street with 
substance abuse disorder. We are doing them a disservice, and 
we all have to do better.
    The SUPPORT Act contains several critical policies to 
reduce opioid-related harms by improving pain management and 
patient awareness of and access to nonopioid treatments, 
including FDA-approved medical devices, nonopioid medicines, 
and other therapies.
    Unfortunately, 5 years after passage, there are several 
provisions of the SUPPORT Act where the executive branch has 
failed to fully implement policies or to meet required 
deadlines.
    Mr. Blum, I have been a big proponent of breaking down 
reimbursement barriers to increased adoption of nonopioid 
alternatives. Congress has worked in a bipartisan fashion to 
unbundle nonopioid payments from the ambulatory surgery center 
and hospital outpatient setting to spur adoption of new and 
innovative nonopioid treatments. However, I am concerned with 
inconsistent coverage policies that are harming patient access.
    I do believe we are in a critical phase concerning how CMS 
makes or doesn't make national coverage decisions for 
innovative medical therapies in a timely and appropriate 
manner. More specifically--and this is related to Medicare 
Administrative Contractors--I have heard from physician 
organizations that they have implemented far more restrictive 
policies for nonopioids in the face of an existing National 
Coverage Decision which, by law, they are not allowed to do. 
Can you tell me what CMS is doing to enforce NCDs?
    Should Congress look to clarify that MACs are not allowed 
to have more restrictive coverage policies, particularly for 
nonopioid alternatives?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question, Congressman.
    By statute, we have a Medicare coverage framework that 
delegates much decision making for coverage to MACs. That is 
one fundamental tenet to our statute.
    CMS works hard to oversee that process. And whenever we 
hear concerns that MACs aren't following the law, aren't 
following processes, aren't following notice and comment, that 
we are comfortable to step in to ensure strong oversight.
    Mr. Bucshon. That is great, because it is not working, just 
so you know. I am hearing that from not--I am not directing 
this at you personally, I am directing this at the agency.
    And why is that? Well, let me see. Opioids cost almost 
nothing, and nonopioid alternatives are expensive in many 
cases. Makes sense, right? So you have administrative 
contractors limiting access to nonopioid alternatives. It is 
unacceptable. CMS needs to do better.
    Question number two, continuing with the issue of 
reimbursement for nonopioid alternatives, as was mentioned by 
Ranking Member Eshoo, CMS has yet to release the Todd Graham 
Pain Management Study, section 6086 of the SUPPORT Act, 5 years 
later, which directs CMS to revise payment and coverage of 
nonopioid pain treatment options. We need the data. It seems 
CMS is dragging their feet. I don't know why. It seems CMS 
has--drags their feet a lot. I work with them a lot, and it has 
taken years sometimes to get innovative treatments covered that 
are approved by the FDA, by private insurers, by the VA. We 
have to do better. We need this data so we can move forward.
    And on the topic of implementation, the CMS Opioid Action 
Plan, section 6032 of the SUPPORT Act, was released in 2021. 
How has CMS adopted the action plan to revise payment and 
improve coverage of devices, nonopioid medicines, and other 
therapies?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. The CMS has worked 
hard to implement all of the SUPPORT Act provisions. We are 
happy to follow up with any specific concerns of areas that we 
are falling short.
    Mr. Bucshon. Time is of the essence. And Mr. Chairman, as I 
said and I implied, CMS should not be the limiting factor 
related to access to FDA-approved medical therapies or devices. 
This needs to end. CMS needs, in my opinion, top-to-bottom 
reform. It is overly bureaucratic, and it takes years to get 
approval and access to devices and medical therapies to 
patients. I have personal experience with this. I have been in 
Congress--this is my 13th year.
    So I implore us to do something about these unnecessary 
delays that are limiting the access to alternatives to opioids, 
because opioids are very, very cheap, and nonopioid 
alternatives may not be, and so funding and paying for these 
things is limiting access, I think, based on finances. And that 
is just unacceptable.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Dr. Bucshon yields back. The Chair recognizes 
Mrs. Dingell from Michigan for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mrs. Dingell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to you and 
Ranking Member for convening this really important hearing.
    Many if not all of us have deeply personal stories of 
losing loved ones, friends, and constituents to opioids and 
addictions and the fentanyl. With the growing opioid and 
fentanyl crisis, these stories are becoming distressingly 
common. So it is important that this subcommittee is taking 
action to address this crisis with the urgency it requires, 
including expanding upon the important progress we have made 
through the enactment of the SUPPORT Act in 2018.
    As we work to continue responding to this crisis--and I 
agree with my other colleagues who say we are not going fast 
enough; someday we are going to get something that somebody 
will prescribe that is not addictive like opioids for pain 
relief--it is critical that we authorize key provisions that 
are set to expire at the end of this year.
    The SUPPORT Act authorized a pilot program to improve 
coordination between public health laboratories and those 
operated by law enforcement to better detect fentanyl and other 
synthetic opioids. Dr. Jones, you mentioned that the CDC is 
strengthening public health testing by developing advanced 
laboratory tests for fentanyl. How can lab testing improve our 
understanding of opioid trends and new, emerging threats?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for the question. I think it is a 
really important point that we are in a very dynamic, illicit 
drug market where new, emerging substances need to be 
identified as quickly as possible so that communities can 
respond to those threats.
    That provision in the Public Health Act, unfortunately, has 
not been appropriated, but we have used funding through our 
overdose line to support our public health lab work, developing 
reference materials, traceable opioid material kits, as well as 
other reference standards that public health as well as 
clinical labs can use to try to stay on the cutting edge of 
what is emerging in communities.
    And I think the components of that section are also 
important about public health and public safety working 
together. We are here together with DEA. We share information. 
We work closely together at the Federal level, but we are also 
supporting that work at the State and local level as well. 
Through our overdose response strategy, we pair up drug 
intelligence officers and public health officials to share 
data, to share information, to have a common operating picture 
of what is going on, what is emerging, and what do we need to 
do together to advance solutions to the crisis.
    So having that data is absolutely critical so that 
communities can understand how is it changing, how do we need 
to change tactics to address emerging threats.
    Mrs. Dingell. Thank you, I agree with that. I am going to 
do a question for the record on the--working with the other 
labs, but I want to move to another question. Last week I 
introduced the FIND Fentanyl Act with Representative Bilirakis 
to reauthorize the SUPPORT Act's lab pilot program through 
fiscal year 2028. And I am grateful that this bill is included 
as part of today's hearing. And thank you to Rep. Gus Bilirakis 
for his partnership on this important effort. So we are going 
to work it.
    Now I want to shift our focus a bit and talk about the 
importance of ensuring people in recovery can access the care 
they need, surrounded by their families and friends. As many of 
you know, I have worked very hard to ensure--not getting there 
yet--that folks can access care in home and community-based 
settings, or HCBS. We know that, given the choice, most people 
would prefer to remain in their homes and communities while 
they receive treatment, rather than being sent off to an 
institution. And that is why I am concerned about policies that 
could lead to an increase in people being in institutions.
    Mr. Blum, there are two bills before us today that would 
further weaken the Institution for Mental Disease, or IMD, 
exclusion. Other than the State plan amendment that Republicans 
would like to extend, are there other options for State 
Medicaid programs to cover IMD stays?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. Today CMS works with 
States to help design comprehensive systems that provide 
coverage for the full spectrum of care services that can best 
meet patients where they want to receive those services.
    Mrs. Dingell. So that is what I thought. So for the record, 
so a State that wants to cover IMD stays in Medicaid has 
options, even if this option were to expire.
    I also want to ask about the waivers you mentioned. It is 
my understanding that a condition of those waivers is that 
States must support a continuum of care. Mr. Blum, can you talk 
about why it is important that individuals seeking treatment 
have access to care in more integrated settings in their homes 
and communities and not just care in IMDs?
    Mr. Blum. Well, we know that patients prefer to receive 
services in different care settings. And we also know that one 
size doesn't fit all. And so work today that CMS does is to 
work in close partnership with States to ensure that we can 
help support programs that best meet those needs. And one 
principle that we believe is vital is that we provide--help 
support States to provide services to that full spectrum.
    Mrs. Dingell. I know I am out of time, Mr. Chair. I yield 
back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Carter for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Carter. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this 
hearing, and thank all of you for being here.
    Dr. Jones, it is always good to see you. I appreciate you 
all being here.
    Mr. Strait, I want to ask you, the DEA released two 
proposed rules back in March that would govern the prescribing 
of controlled substances via telemedicine following the COVID-
19 public health emergency, of course. And there were many, 
many comments from stakeholders on this.
    And in May the agency and SAMHSA released a temporary 
extension of COVID-19 health emergency waiver authorities that 
allowed for some controlled substances, anyway, to continue to 
be prescribed via telemedicine without an in-person visit 
through November 11th of this year. It is my understanding that 
this temporary extension will give DEA and other agencies the--
more time to review and respond to these comments as part of 
the rulemaking.
    You well understand it is critical for patients across the 
country that the DEA process the final rules in a way that is 
going to balance patient access with concerns about diversion. 
I mean, we are concerned about diversion. There is no question 
about that. But we also need access, especially--especially--
for those patients that are utilizing buprenorphine as a 
medication to treat opioid use disorder.
    If the DEA has not completed the rulemaking process by the 
November deadline, can you assure and commit to issuing another 
temporary extension so that patients can retain access to this 
care that they need?
    Mr. Strait. Thank you for the question, Congressman.
    First of all, I want to say, from DEA's perspective, we 
believe that telemedicine is medicine. Telemedicine is here to 
stay.
    Mr. Carter. Right.
    Mr. Strait. But with that we also want to acknowledge the 
fact, you know, that this rule impacts the delivery of 
healthcare for every American, and we want to make sure we get 
it right.
    So we, obviously, did get a robust response to our proposed 
rules, 38,000 comments, as has been noted previously. And we 
want to make sure we are giving a thoughtful review, again, to 
make sure that we are getting it right, because we know how 
important this is.
    Mr. Carter. OK. So can you commit that you will extend the 
date if you don't have it done by then?
    Mr. Strait. Well, we definitely believe that the 6 months 
is going to be sufficient to do an adequate review of the 
comments, but we are not going to let these vital services 
lapse.
    Mr. Carter. OK, good. All right. Very quickly, I want to 
turn to another piece of legislation that I am leading, along 
with Congresswoman Schakowsky, who is waiving onto this 
subcommittee today. It is H.R. 4096, and it is pending before 
the committee today. It is legislation that standardizes the 
oversight and reporting of antipsychotic medications prescribed 
to Medicaid recipients.
    I was really alarmed at a GAO report that found 
extraordinarily high rates of schizophrenia diagnoses and other 
psychotic disorders among Georgia Medicaid recipients. It 
looked like an outlier to me. I was just taken aback by that.
    But this is very important. It is important to note and it 
is disturbing to note that GAO also found a high antipsychotic 
use in Georgia, over 90 percent--over 90 percent--of the 
beneficiaries with intellectual or developmental disabilities 
in Georgia with schizophrenia had used antipsychotic 
medications. And this suggests that there might be an 
overprescribing problem, especially in Georgia.
    Mr. Blum, what actions can CMS take to monitor the 
prescribing of antipsychotics?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question, Congressman. We, too, 
are very concerned, alarmed at those same numbers. We have 
taken strong steps to better collect information from nursing 
homes that serve Medicare and Medicaid patients, and we are 
prepared to take strong steps when we see prescribing that 
doesn't meet clinical standards.
    Mr. Carter. OK. All right.
    At this time, Mr. Chairman, I am going to yield to 
Congresswoman Schakowsky, if she--she is leading this 
legislation with me.
    Ms. Schakowsky. Thank you, Representative Carter. I just 
want to say how happy I am to join this. For a long time I have 
been very concerned about the overuse of antipsychotics for the 
purpose, really, of restraint.
    And I, too, I just wanted to ask Mr. Blum, are you--do you 
have any estimation of how--I am assuming lives would be saved 
if legislation like this would be--would be passed, and I 
wondered if you could comment on that, because the FDA has said 
that these drugs can kill up to 15,000 nursing home residents 
every year.
    Mr. Blum. We share the view that lives will be saved. We 
share the view that quality of care will improve. We know from 
clinicians there are legitimate uses for prescribing, but we 
also know that we have seen spikes that can't be explained. So 
we share the goal that you have, and I am happy to work with 
you to ensure that we can move forward better.
    Ms. Schakowsky. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr.----
    Mr. Carter. And reclaiming my time real quickly, I was a 
consultant pharmacist in nursing homes for many years, and I 
have seen chemical restraints like this. And this is a big 
problem. So I hope that CMS is looking at this diligently and 
very closely.
    Mr. Blum. I can assure you that we are, Congressman. I can 
also assure you that we are hearing very strong pushback. But 
CMS will stand strong, and we share the goal that you have.
    Mr. Carter. Great. Thank you, and I yield back. Thank you.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thanks. The gentleman yields back. The Chair 
recognizes Dr. Dunn for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Dunn. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Strait, we know that we have shifted from a 
prescription opioid crisis to a new crisis now surrounding 
illicit fentanyl. But we have also seen xylazine being used as 
an adulterant to the fentanyl and its analogs. This is the 
reason I cosponsored the Combating Illicit Xylazine Act, which 
we think will help law enforcement better track the information 
and enforce the law against traffickers distributing it 
illegally.
    Now, this is a delicate policy because I recognize that 
this drug, you know, represents the unique challenges of a 
regularly utilized FDA-approved drug in veterinary uses, and it 
is safe in animals. But it is, obviously, quite deadly in human 
beings, so we want to make sure we strike the right balance.
    Can you briefly speak to the importance of the policy, and 
perhaps how we could do that best, how we can empower the DEA 
to address xylazine as an illegal adulterant but yet a legal 
drug in veterinary medicine?
    Mr. Strait. Sure. Thank you for that question. And it is 
the same kind of delicate balance that we are talking about at 
DEA, as well, and you described it perfectly.
    On the one end, we know it is being encountered with 
fentanyl and creating potentially devastating consequences on 
people who would unsuspectingly use it. But at the same point, 
we also know that it has got widespread veterinary 
applications, specifically in large animals. So we too want to 
strike the appropriate balance on what makes best to protect 
public safety, while also ensuring that it is available for 
public health. And we are kind of not ruling any options out.
    As Congressman Pallone mentioned at the outset, we know 
that there is an interagency process and some executive branch 
procedures underway, but we also welcome the opportunity to 
work toward a legislative solution as well.
    Mr. Dunn. Well, we would love to work with you, would love 
to see--I don't think the people who are out of the medical 
practice--out in the medical world actually appreciate the 
difference between this and fentanyl. When we say fentanyl, we 
mean the analogs of fentanyl, which are clearly not legal 
drugs. And now we are talking about an illegal drug being used 
as an adulterant in an off-label way--way the hell off-label, 
out-of-the-species-label way.
    So it is, it is a little bit of a different problem for us. 
But I think--I trust that we can do this, and do it with 
alacrity. So I look forward to working with you. Thank you very 
much.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. The gentleman yields back. The Chair now 
recognizes Ms. Barragan from California for 5 minutes of 
questions.
    Ms. Barragan. Well, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Blum, thank you for CMS's steadfast work to encourage 
States to apply for the new Medicaid reentry waiver program.
    On January 26, 2023, CMS approved California's section 1115 
waiver request, which is a first in the Nation to include a 
partial waiver of the Medicaid inmate exclusion policy for 
justice-involved individuals for up to 90 days prior to 
release.
    In December 2023, Congress passed bipartisan changes to the 
Medicaid law to require State Medicaid programs to start 
covering services for young people in juvenile detention 30 
days prior to their release to help them transition back to 
their communities.
    What progress is CMS making to implement the changes, and 
how would the implementation of this legislation interact with 
California's 1115 waiver?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. We were very happy to 
work with California to put in place this new waiver. CMS wants 
to--would welcome working with other States. We share the goal 
that California has to ensure that whatever we can do to 
continue coverage for services keeps going forward. CMS today 
welcomes but also encourages more States to follow California's 
lead.
    Ms. Barragan. OK, thank you.
    In the 5 years since the SUPPORT Act was first passed, the 
opioid epidemic has evolved, and some challenges have continued 
to grow. One of these challenges is how the opioid crisis 
continues to fuel increases in deaths for people who are 
experiencing homelessness.
    According to the Los Angeles County Department of Public 
Health, between 2017 to 2019, people experiencing homelessness 
in LA County were more than 36 times more likely to die of a 
drug overdose compared to the general LA County population.
    Mr. Blum, can you discuss the innovative strategies CMS is 
testing to address homelessness and other housing stability 
needs for individuals with substance use disorders?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. We have started to 
work with States, California being one, to test ways for us to 
expand services that help to support better healthcare 
outcomes.
    One of those services that we are--very early testing of is 
limited, but carefully designed housing programs. These 
programs are new, are just starting, but we see further 
interest from other States for similar care models.
    Ms. Barragan. OK. Well, this is an issue that I think is 
going to be very important on addressing homelessness. It is, I 
think, one of many of the factors into going--why, you know, we 
are seeing the numbers go up, and making sure we are providing 
assistance to folks.
    Now, substance use disorder can be both a cause and a 
consequence of homelessness and a significant barrier to 
exiting homelessness. Stable housing plays a vital role in the 
recovery process for individuals who are experiencing or at 
risk of experiencing homelessness. And so States are 
increasingly testing, evaluating, and advancing best practices 
around providing housing-related and recovery services and 
supports for Medicaid-eligible individuals.
    Mr. Blum, what are some of the lessons learned by CMS or 
States regarding the Medicaid waivers approved under section 
1115 or 1915, and how Congress can use these lessons to improve 
upon existing CMS authorities or maybe create new ones to 
ensure that Medicaid resources for housing-related services are 
coordinated and easily accessed by the people in need?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. These services are 
new. They are relatively new. I don't think we have sufficient 
data to come back to this committee to say how permanent policy 
can be best designed.
    But what I can say, we are happy to stay in touch. We are 
happy to report progress as California but other States move 
forward with these new innovations.
    Ms. Barragan. Great, thank you.
    Ms. Espinosa, healthcare centers have identified behavioral 
health as the highest priority for service expansion, and they 
continue to play a critical role in reducing overdose deaths 
and improving mental health. Could you please explain how HRSA-
supported Community Health Centers collaborate with community-
based organizations to increase access to behavioral health 
services?
    Ms. Espinosa. Sure, thank you. Our health centers have 
partners throughout the community that they use for referrals, 
bidirectional referrals. Health centers have significantly 
expanded the behavioral health services they have provided 
since they started making targeted investments, increasing 
behavioral health--mental health by about 50 percent and 
substance use disorder by doubling it.
    So they have been able to leverage these, but they are 
still not meeting all the need, and that is why we think it is 
very important to continue the funding for health centers, so 
that we don't lose ground on this important service venue.
    Ms. Barragan. Well, thank you, Ms. Espinosa, for that 
excellent explanation.
    You know, Community Health Centers provide comprehensive 
healthcare services, regardless of a patient's ability to pay, 
and a lifeline for so many individuals and families across the 
Nation. I, for one, as a kid, we used Community Health Centers, 
yet they are only able to meet about 25 percent of the demand 
for mental health services. So that is one of the reasons me 
and my colleagues, Representatives Blunt Rochester and Kuster, 
have introduced a bill called the Health Center Service 
Expansion and Provider Shortage Reduction Act to provide 
funding in behavioral health service investments to support and 
expand behavioral health services in about 1,400 health centers 
across the country.
    So thank you all for your work, and for being here today.
    And with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thanks. The lady's time has expired. So I note 
the clock didn't start exactly right, so we didn't give you an 
extra 4 or 5 minutes. You had your full 5, I know, you are 
good. You are good.
    So now the Chair recognizes Dr. Joyce for 5 minutes for 
questions.
    Mr. Joyce. Thank you for yielding, Mr. Chairman, and to our 
witnesses for appearing here today at this critical legislative 
hearing.
    This marks another important step in the legislative 
process as we work as a committee to reauthorize the SUPPORT 
Act, a process that--Chairman Guthrie brought the subcommittee 
to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, where we heard powerful and 
important testimony from my constituents. And I would like to 
thank Mike Straley, Police Chief Bill Saravala, and addiction 
specialist Dr. Mitch Crawford again for their input and for 
sharing their firsthand experience with the opioid and 
addiction crisis that we are currently facing. We were able to 
examine crucial questions, particularly access to recovery 
services and how we can improve upon the SUPPORT Act as we move 
forward.
    I would also like to thank the committee for including H.R. 
4097, the Mental Health Improvement Act, which I cointroduce 
with Representative Sykes here today. This bill reauthorizes 
756(f) of the Public Health Service Act, which provides 
important grant funding for our behavioral health workforce.
    Deputy Administrator Espinosa, can you please elaborate on 
your testimony on how this funding is used, particularly in 
rural areas like mine, to train healthcare workers and expand 
access to behavioral and mental health services?
    Ms. Espinosa. Yes, thank you for the question.
    Our behavioral health workforce programs emphasize the 
importance of clinical training in those underserved 
communities and rural communities. So we are training 
professionals and giving them that experiential learning in 
those most underserved communities that has implications for 
where they go on to practice, since people who have experience 
in those areas are more likely to go practice there, and it 
also expands services in those communities by having them as 
training sites.
    We have also been supporting the paraprofessional workforce 
to support communities in the broader sense. Those are 
community health workers, peer support specialists, those key 
positions that help with prevention and help make sure that 
people in rural communities are retained in care, and then can 
help them overcome some of the obstacles for staying in care.
    Mr. Joyce. Thank you.
    Ms. Espinosa. So----
    Mr. Joyce. I continue to be very concerned about the 
increase in fentanyl poisonings that we are seeing across the 
country. And fortunately, the House recently passed the HALT 
Fentanyl Act to permanently place fentanyl-related substances 
into schedule I of CSA and work toward getting these weapon-
grade poisons off of our streets.
    Mr. Coderre, in your written testimony you mentioned that 
the prevalence of synthetic and illicitly manufactured opioids 
have led to a significant increase in overdose deaths. How has 
the increase in synthetic opioids, including illicit fentanyl, 
impacted the way that SAMHSA communicates with treatment 
providers and disseminates what best practices are and what are 
available?
    Mr. Coderre. Thank you so much for that question, 
Congressman.
    At SAMHSA, as you know, we are concerned with the full 
continuum of care for substance use disorders: prevention, 
treatment, recovery support, as well as intervention. And so we 
use our programs to communicate with States and local 
providers. We have a variety of centers of excellence that work 
with our folks on the ground to alert them of these dangers, 
provide them with the best practices for treatment and recovery 
support in these instances. But we would be happy to work with 
you and your team to identify ways we could do better.
    Mr. Joyce. Thank you. I look forward to that collaboration.
    At the recent SUPPORT Act reauthorization field hearing 
that I mentioned in Gettysburg, I highlighted that improving 
pain management for the 50 million Americans in chronic pain is 
a critical component in helping to combat our country's 
substance misuse crisis. Both the SUPPORT Act and its 
predecessor, CARA, had numerous policies to improve pain 
management, including the creation of the Pain Management Best 
Practices Task Force to make recommendations to improve pain 
care and to reduce opioid-related harms. The task force called 
for individualized, multimodal care, improved access to 
nonopioid therapies, and increased education on pain management 
best practices.
    Director Jones, did the CDC's updated opioid prescribing 
guidelines incorporate task force recommendations?
    And what educational tools has the CDC developed, and how 
are they used to promote nonopioid options?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for the question, and I certainly will 
underscore that the Pain Management Task Force was a very 
important piece of the SUPPORT Act in bringing people together 
to really elevate the conversation not just about opioids and 
what role they might play in pain, but also how we might look 
at pain more holistically.
    The CDC guideline, which came out last year, repeatedly 
references the Best Practices Task Force document and has good 
consistency with those recommendations for how we approach pain 
care and prioritizes nonopioid medications or nonopioid--
nonpharmacological treatments for pain, recognizing there is a 
role for opioids but in many cases nonopioid treatments may 
actually be the better option for patients to actually achieve 
their pain-related goals.
    Mr. Joyce. And I think all of those options need to be 
evaluated and continue to be evaluated.
    Chairman, my time has expired, but again I thank you for 
bringing the Health Subcommittee on the important issue of the 
SUPPORT Act to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and I yield.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. That was a wonderful trip. The 
gentleman yields back, and the Chair recognizes Ms. Craig for 5 
minutes for questions.
    Ms. Craig. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to all of the witnesses for being here today. I am so heartened 
by the number of good, bipartisan bills that we are discussing 
here today.
    But I want to be clear. We are in an American crisis. Over 
the course of this hearing, approximately 21 people will die of 
a fentanyl overdose. That is why my bipartisan bill with Mr. 
Griffith, the RECONNECTS Act, is so critical. It will provide 
Federal resources to our public health agencies to head off 
overdoses before they occur. This is an important issue, and I 
am glad--really, really heartened--that it is so bipartisan.
    To start I want to focus my first question on the 
importance of this legislation in the continued fight against 
the opioid epidemic. Dr. Jones, can you talk a little bit about 
the function of prescription drug monitoring programs and how 
they serve as a public health tool?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for the question.
    So prescription drug monitoring programs are State-based 
programs that capture information from pharmacies on controlled 
substances that are dispensed in that jurisdiction. They can be 
used as a clinical tool. So pharmacists, physicians, nurse 
practitioners, other prescribers can go into the system if they 
are treating a patient to see has that patient been prescribed 
other medications by other providers, where there might be an 
interaction or there is some pattern of potential misuse so 
they can provide information to make those clinical decisions.
    But they also can be used as a data tool to help States 
understand what are the prescribing trends that are happening 
in a State, how might they vary across communities in their 
State, where might they deploy resources to support, whether it 
is addiction or better access to pain care?
    Ms. Craig. Thank you so much, Dr. Jones.
    I want to note that the RECONNECTS Act explicitly 
designates the fentanyl crisis as a new and emerging public 
health crisis. To me this is a critical addition to current 
law.
    Next I would like to touch on another new and emerging 
threat that our country is facing. Mr. Strait, earlier this 
year DEA issued a public safety warning of a sharp increase in 
the trafficking of fentanyl mixed with--sorry, I can't see here 
today--xylazine. How has the introduction of xylazine into the 
illicit drug market complicated DEA's efforts to combat the 
fentanyl crisis?
    What do you need from Congress to better address the 
emerging threat of xylazine?
    Mr. Strait. Thank you for that question. I didn't get a 
chance to say this earlier, but in this current fiscal year 
about 25 percent thus far of our powder samples of fentanyl are 
containing xylazine. And that, obviously, complicates kind of 
what you were talking about earlier with your previous--with 
your legislation with trying to reduce the number of overdose 
deaths, because that is a complicating factor to how a patient 
may present, and the ability of Narcan to actually impact a 
positive outcome there.
    So at DEA we are kind of taking a look at and seeing what 
options are available to us to have better data to understand 
where this xylazine is coming from, and so that we can go back 
and try to, you know, try to address the threat where it 
begins.
    Ms. Craig. Well, I just want to say that we really 
appreciate all of your efforts in my district and across the 
country. There is absolutely no time to waste. Lives depend on 
whether we have the political will to act. I am ready to work 
with anyone to address these problems head on, and I am really 
grateful to my colleagues across the aisle who are doing the 
same.
    With that, Mr. Chair, I again, recognizing the urgency of 
this issue and the fact that we have no time to waste, I yield 
back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mr. Crenshaw for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Crenshaw. Thank you, Chair and Ranking Member. Thank 
you to the witnesses for being here today.
    As we consider the SUPPORT Act, I want us to think of 21st 
century solutions to substance abuse. PTSD and substance abuse 
disorders often happen together. Forty-six percent of those 
with lifetime PTSD will also have substance abuse disorder.
    One of the solutions I am working on is getting clinical 
trial guidance for psychedelic therapies, a guidance from the 
FDA, of course. And this therapy will be Earth shattering. It 
already has been. It has already changed dozens of lives. I 
have dozens of testimonies from veterans and service members 
who have suffered severe traumatic brain injuries and severe 
PTSD--they were on the brink of suicide--whose lives were 
changed by these therapies.
    It is not just veterans, it is also people living with 
PTSD, whatever kind of trauma they have gone through. Civilians 
struggling with addiction have benefited massively as well. The 
testimonies from each and every person who goes through these 
therapies is they no longer drink and they no longer do drugs. 
They have no need for it after one day of a therapy with a drug 
called ibogaine, for instance. And this is not--again, not just 
veterans, people like John Costa, who, after participating in a 
clinical trial at NYU, was cured of his alcoholism.
    We are not talking about 1960s LSD trips. This therapy is 
supervised by a medical practitioner, often occurs with repeat 
treatments in a controlled setting.
    And when it comes to the efficacy of this therapy, the 
proof is in the data, in the testimonies. But we need the FDA 
to issue clinical trial guidance for psychedelic-assisted 
therapy so that the industry can actually invest in this. Right 
now it is difficult for researchers to pursue these trials 
without any direction at all from FDA. Without that direction, 
it is even more difficult for us to conduct the research to tap 
into this breakthrough treatment option.
    Unfortunately, I was told we could not get this bipartisan 
bill noticed in today's hearing, but I would appreciate the 
chairman's commitment to put it in future markups.
    Mr. Guthrie. I will work with you.
    Mr. Crenshaw. Now I want to shift gears to the fentanyl 
issue.
    Everyone on this committee should know that one of my top 
priorities is confronting the cartels head on. They are 
poisoning tens of thousands of Americans per year with 
fentanyl, and this is particularly true for communities in my 
district, like Harris County, where fentanyl and fentanyl 
derivatives kill at least one person every day. The cartels 
facilitate and take advantage of our open borders so that they 
can push deadly fentanyl into our country while Border Patrol 
resources are diverted to deal with mass influxes of migrants.
    The cartels and their Chinese Communist Party allies are 
constantly changing the chemical composition to evade law 
enforcement. The new emerging threat is illicit xylazine, which 
the cartels are mixing into fentanyl. It is cheaper to produce, 
easier to sell, produces a different high, severe side effects.
    I am supporting Representative Pfluger's legislation to 
permanently schedule illicit xylazine so that we can actually 
prosecute traffickers with the penalty they deserve.
    Mr. Strait, can you explain why you are unable to schedule 
drugs through the administrative process and need congressional 
action, and what type of congressional action?
    Mr. Strait. Well, thank you, Congressman Crenshaw. And I 
think you summarized the issue as well as my previous colleague 
who was here in February talking about this threat.
    So the short answer to your question is that there is an 
administrative process that we are currently pursuing. We are 
taking an all-options approach at this point, and we are going 
to be considering our executive branch procedures for 
considering potential control under the CSA, as well as 
opportunities to work with Congress in the event that that 
could be potentially quicker.
    Mr. Crenshaw. Can we just talk in general about the 
fentanyl poisoning problem? And that is your description of it, 
that is my description of it as well. It is a poisoning 
problem. What is preventing us from stopping this?
    Is it lack of resources? Do you just not have enough agents 
on the ground?
    Or is it lack of authorities? Can you not prosecute people 
effectively when they are caught dealing fentanyl?
    Or is the only way--is the only solution to target the 
actual source, the cartels in Mexico producing it?
    Mr. Strait. I think the targeting piece is certainly one of 
the most important aspects of this administration's approach to 
addressing the problem.
    Mr. Crenshaw. Targeting of cartels----
    Mr. Strait. Yes.
    Mr. Crenshaw [continuing]. Specifically within Mexico.
    Mr. Strait. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Crenshaw. Yes, and how successful are we? I mean, do 
we--how is the DEA's relationship with the Mexican Government? 
Are they being cooperative?
    Mr. Strait. Well, on that one I will probably pivot, just 
because of my role within DEA. I am part of the 20 percent of 
the organization that has that regulatory role on domestic----
    Mr. Crenshaw. OK, fine.
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. On the domestic supply chain. But 
I do want to make one important point, and it is something that 
Dr. Jones made earlier.
    You know, I think the biggest threat that we have noticed 
with opioid misuse has been this constantly evolving landscape, 
where we have gone from prescription drugs to heroin to 
synthetic drugs, which have included opioids and now nitazenes 
and other substances. And that will continue to be a problem. 
It has been the situation for my----
    Mr. Crenshaw. Excuse me, if I can go over time just 1 
second. So I listed three things, right: lack of resources, 
lack of authorities, target the cartels directly. You chose 
target the cartels directly, as, I think, the number-one 
missing element in being able to stop this. Is that----
    Mr. Strait. No, sir.
    Mr. Crenshaw. OK. The other two are important also?
    Mr. Strait. I apologize. I apologize. I am telling you that 
that is the number-one priority for our Administrator at this 
point.
    Mr. Crenshaw. OK.
    Mr. Strait. That is what we are focused on.
    Mr. Crenshaw. OK. Well, that tells me something. Thank you.
    And I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. The gentleman yields back. And Mrs. Trahan, 
you are ready?
    OK, Mrs. Trahan, you are recognized for 5 minutes for 
questions.
    Mrs. Trahan. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Time and again, this committee has come together in a 
bipartisan manner to pass critical policies to address the 
addiction overdose crisis that has been plaguing our 
communities for far too long. At the end of last year we passed 
policies that break down barriers to buprenorphine access as 
well as increased knowledge on how providers can help their 
patients who may be suffering with substance use disorder.
    Now we must take this unique opportunity to hold--to build 
on that progress, to strengthen our response to the ongoing 
addiction crisis, including increasing equitable access to all 
FDA-approved MATs, like methadone. The hearing today includes a 
bipartisan bill I introduced with Representative Lori Chavez-
DeRemer that authorizes a monitoring and education program 
regarding infections associated with illicit drug use.
    Dr. Jones, can you please state the importance of this 
program and how a program like this can help to break down the 
stigma associated with opioid use disorder?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you very much for the question.
    We have seen over the last decade, certainly, increases in 
hepatitis C, hepatitis B virus, as well as outbreaks of HIV in 
communities across the country associated with injection drug 
use. And so the authorization and investment in expanding 
access to services not only to increase testing for viral 
hepatitis or HIV, expand vaccination for A and B, as well as 
referral to treatment services for, you know, antivirals that 
can cure hepatitis C or treat HIV or HIV prep, those are really 
critical services for people who inject drugs.
    And oftentimes that population is highly stigmatized and 
marginalized. And our work in this space is supporting health 
departments and community organizations to really meet the 
moment where those individuals are through syringe services 
programs, through other programs in communities that can 
approach individuals with compassion and empathy who have often 
not wanted to engage with the health system because of stigma 
in the way that they have been treated.
    So it is a really critical investment in reaching a very 
high-risk population not only for overdose, but also infectious 
disease transmission.
    Mrs. Trahan. I appreciate all of that, and it is something 
this committee will take into account.
    So in early 2000, a company in my home State of 
Massachusetts paused its wastewater epidemiology work in 
opioids to focus on the COVID-19 pandemic, making the 
Commonwealth a pioneer in measuring SARS-CoV-2 community 
infections in wastewater. Now this same company is expanding 
its wastewater platform as it shifts back to the opioid space 
to help communities better understand and respond to high-risk 
substance use at all community levels.
    So, Dr. Jones, to you again, in your testimony you state 
that CDC works with State and local communities to ensure 
funded programs and resources are identifying and addressing 
trends in the overdose landscape that are evident through data 
systems. I understand the CDC utilizes wastewater epidemiology 
data analysis to identify emerging infections within 
communities. How can wastewater epidemiology help to identify 
emerging substances related to illicit opioid use like 
fentanyl, and now xylazine?
    Dr. Jones. Thank you for the question. It is certainly an 
active area of discussion within CDC, but also more broadly 
within the interagency and the executive branch about what is 
the role, how do we apply what we have learned through COVID 
and Mpox and other infectious disease outbreaks that might be 
useful in helping communities tap into wastewater surveillance 
as a component of the overdose crisis response?
    I think we are still trying to work through what are the 
ethical and legal constraints, community acceptability, 
resources to do that work, and then how does it fit within the 
other data collection systems that we have. And we have 
prioritized, under our Overdose Data to Action program, 
emergency department data, mortality data, EMS data, which 
links the substances that are being used with the outcomes that 
we are trying to prevent. So it does provide very actionable 
information for communities to understand what drugs are 
circulating, what harms are happening.
    So we are trying to figure out, if we move in that 
direction with wastewater, how do we do it in the most optimal 
way that really gives communities information for action that 
they don't currently have.
    Mrs. Trahan. Sure. And given the example that, you know, 
you just raised related to wastewater epidemiology, how should 
we think about bolstering public-private partnerships to 
utilize data infrastructure that was put in place through COVID 
to improve our community responses to the ongoing addiction 
crisis?
    What tools do you think we can leverage private investment 
in?
    Dr. Jones. I think it is an area for further discussion.
    I mean, we certainly work with companies that have 
different data sources to help us understand and help 
communities understand the full mosaic of what is going on with 
substance use in communities. So data that looks at prescribing 
trends for buprenorphine, data that looks at emergency medical 
services, ambulance runs in communities.
    So I think we are trying to build out those public health 
and private-sector partnerships to help tell the story and not 
recreate the wheel with new surveillance systems, but to 
leverage systems that already exist.
    Mrs. Trahan. Great. Well, thank you all for being here 
today. I really appreciate your responses.
    And I yield back my time.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. The 
Chair recognizes Mrs. Harshbarger for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. OK. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you all 
for being here today.
    Mr. Blum, my first question goes to you. It is a common 
practice among some insurance plans to use closed pharmacy 
networks, which only permits patients to get their medication 
from a specific pharmacy, and that is selected from a pharmacy 
benefit manager. This practice can result in patients with a 
substance use disorder not getting their required treatment 
because the pharmacy can be difficult to access, or--especially 
in instances when the medications are distributed through 
specialty pharmacies. And this gap to a prescribed medication 
could lead patients to relapsing, or even worse.
    And I know that some States are advancing policies that 
would require the PBMs to utilize any--willing provider status 
is what it is called, and that is for serious mental health 
illnesses and substance use disorder medications to address the 
problem.
    My question is, is this delay in timely fulfillment of 
substance use disorder medication something CMS is aware of, or 
have you looked into that?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question.
    We have certainly heard very similar concerns, and see very 
little evidence that by having closed pharmacy networks there's 
better clinical outcomes, there's more savings.
    We are happy to work with you on ways for us to improve 
Medicare policies, Medicaid policies, but haven't seen data 
that suggests that we get better outcomes by having more narrow 
pharmacy networks.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. OK, OK, we will try to help in any way we 
can on that.
    Mr. Strait, the SUPPORT Act provided resources and 
authorities to prevent illegal drug products from entering the 
U.S. supply chain via mail. However, you know, consumers are--
they are going to rely on the Internet to purchase various 
products, and that includes prescription medications. And the 
emergence of these illegitimate online pharmacies has really 
become a concerning issue. And I have been a pharmacist 36 
years, so this is right up my alley.
    These bad actors deceive these unsuspecting customers by 
selling counterfeit pills. Sometimes they are laced with 
fentanyl. And I know, Dr. Jones, when I was at CDC they were 
looking at opioid deaths, going back to see if there was 
fentanyl involved when I talked to the CDC Director.
    You know, it really--it poses significant risks to people's 
health and safety. And to address the evolving challenge of 
corner drug stores shifting to online platforms, how do you 
suggest we effectively shut these digital drug dealers down?
    And we know that they are dealing through Snapchat and 
TikTok. And, you know, being on Homeland Security, I know that 
that is how they recruit these drug dealers, basically.
    Mr. Strait. Congresswoman, I thank you for that question, 
because that is an important piece of the puzzle that we need 
to also solve.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Yes.
    Mr. Strait. You know, what we have been saying at DEA is 
that social media actually represents the superhighway----
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Absolutely.
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. For connecting a drug dealer with 
an unsuspecting American.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Yes.
    Mr. Strait. And unfortunately, we see that happening every 
day. And I would say that we not only see it on the illicit 
side of our house, but then, to your point about some of these 
online intermediaries, we can also see how social media is 
being used to get new patients to seek controlled substances 
pursuant to a prescription that may not be being issued in the 
legitimate course of practice.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Well, of course. That is why they are 
online trying to get it.
    Mr. Strait. So we are very, very concerned about that 
issue.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Yes, I would like to see numbers on that 
too, you know, data.
    Well, I have got a minute left. Mr. Coderre, SAMHSA has 
awarded billions of dollars in grants to treat opioid use 
disorders under the State opioid response grants. To my 
knowledge--and you correct me if I am wrong--SAMHSA is not 
tracking clinical outcomes like treatment retention rates or 
whether patients stop using the illicit opioids or whether or 
not those patients are getting back to work.
    So I would like to ensure that the funds authorized and 
appropriated by Congress are used wisely, especially given we 
already have a broad network of effective programs for treating 
these opioid disorders. And I believe we need a greater focus 
on the effectiveness of these programs. You know, you have to 
measure outcomes, especially when they receive funding from us. 
And without tracking clinical outcomes, how can we assure that 
money is going to providers with the best clinical outcomes and 
highest likelihood by helping their patients achieve recovery?
    Mr. Coderre. Thanks so much for that question, 
Congresswoman.
    The State opioid response grants are critically important. 
The States rely on these resources to really expand treatment, 
prevention, and recovery support services. We do track outcomes 
through that program. I would be happy to get you the 
outcomes----
    Mrs. Harshbarger. OK.
    Mr. Coderre [continuing]. That we do track, and then work 
with the committee----
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Yes, that would be very----
    Mr. Coderre [continuing]. To track things that we may not 
be tracking that you think we should be.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. Yes, fantastic. Because we need to know 
who is doing it right and who is not doing it right.
    Mr. Coderre. Absolutely.
    Mrs. Harshbarger. OK. I think my time has expired, and I 
yield back, sir.
    Mr. Guthrie. The gentlelady yields back. The Chair 
recognizes Dr. Ruiz for 5 minutes for questions.
    Mr. Ruiz. Thank you for holding this important hearing 
today as we are considering these programs that were originally 
included in the SUPPORT Act in 2018, which built on the work 
done in the Comprehensive Addiction and Recovery Act before 
that.
    It is sobering to note how long we have been working to 
tackle this crisis, which continues to evolve. And while I know 
we have made great strides to tackle this epidemic, the COVID 
pandemic and the surge of fentanyl have pushed us into another 
wave of the crisis, with fentanyl remaining the leading cause 
of death for U.S. adults ages 18 to 45. That is why it is 
critical to examine these programs and extend the ones that are 
working.
    Substance use disorders don't just affect the person with 
the disorder. Entire families feel the ripple effects, often 
suffering trauma as a result of their experiences. That is why, 
in the SUPPORT Act, we created the Interagency Task Force on 
Trauma Informed Care. We need to make sure that we are taking a 
holistic approach and treating the entire family appropriately 
in order to properly address the effects of this disease.
    The purpose of this task force is to solicit input from on-
the-ground experts and then provide recommendations, including 
evidence-based best practices and a national strategy, to help 
children and youth who have experienced or are at risk of 
experiencing trauma resulting from substance use disorder.
    As a doctor who came to Washington to advocate for and 
write policy to improve the health and lives of the communities 
that I serve, I can say firsthand that it is critical to 
include experts in the policymaking process. And by experts I 
mean people on the ground with lived experiences carrying out 
those policies every single day. Many things that we consider 
here in Congress sound like a good idea, and intentions are 
good, but there's nothing that can replace the value of real-
life experiences in the policymaking process, real life 
experience to know what actually works, what actually doesn't 
work.
    That is why this task force is so important. It includes 
input from the very people that need to be at the table as 
these decisions are being made: frontline providers; educators; 
mental health professionals; researchers; experts in infant, 
child, and youth trauma; and child welfare professionals. These 
are the people who should be helping to shape the best practice 
recommendations.
    And the work of the task force is not done, which is why it 
is important to extend their authority past its current 
expiration in September. That is why I introduced H.R. 4080, 
the Trauma Informed Care Task Force Reauthorization Act, with 
my colleague Mr. Latta to ensure the successful completion of 
this important work.
    I understand that next month the task force is holding a 
meeting with stakeholders to present the status of their work 
on phase one of the operating plan of the National Strategy for 
Trauma Informed Care and solicit their feedback and input to 
help inform their work, moving forward. The importance of 
stakeholder input cannot be overstated, and giving the task 
force more time to complete their mission is essential so that 
the process is not rushed and the final product is 
comprehensive and effective.
    Mr. Coderre, what is the current status of the task force, 
and why is it necessary or beneficial to extend it?
    Mr. Coderre. Thanks so much, Dr. Ruiz.
    You know, the SUPPORT Act really represented a huge step 
forward in integrating trauma-informed care throughout the 
Department of Health and Human Services public health 
activities. As you pointed out, the task force has been meeting 
regularly and has been doing really important work creating an 
operating plan for the national strategy that exists on four 
pillars: best practices, research, data, and Federal 
coordination.
    And so at the July meeting we expect to have the findings 
presented from phase one, the environmental scan, and so we are 
really looking forward to having the task force----
    Mr. Ruiz. And what is the goal of that meeting? Like, 
what--how will it influence the work of the task force, moving 
forward?
    So you have a presentation, but what do you want to do with 
it?
    Mr. Coderre. Well, the--as I mentioned, they will present 
the findings from the environmental scan, which will be a 
roadmap for the task force going forward.
    Mr. Ruiz. OK. And so there's a plan.
    Mr. Coderre. Correct.
    Mr. Ruiz. You are going to create--OK. And what can 
Congress do to assist the task force to help ensure its 
success?
    Mr. Coderre. Well, I think reauthorizing the task force 
would be the first step, and then working with us, as we find 
the recommendations from the task force, to help implement 
them.
    Mr. Ruiz. Thank you.
    I yield back my time.
    Mr. Guthrie. The gentleman yields back. The Chair 
recognizes Dr. Miller-Meeks for 5 minutes.
    Mrs. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    We are here today talking about reauthorizing the SUPPORT 
Act amid an opioid crisis that is now worse than ever. 
According to the latest CDC data, we have lost more than 
110,000 Americans due to drug overdose deaths in 2022. It is 
estimated that 75 percent of these deaths involved opioids, and 
many of them fentanyl or fentanyl analogs, meaning that we lost 
226 Americans every day to opioids.
    To put this in context, 5 years ago, when Congress 
considered this legislation, we lost just over 53,000 
Americans, or 146 a day, to opioid-related drug overdoses. This 
means that rates of opioid-related drug overdoses have 
increased by 55 percent.
    We need to approach our opioid crisis differently. The 
SUPPORT Act included important, well-intentioned efforts to 
help individuals and families in crisis. However, more needs to 
be done to prevent addiction, including minimizing unnecessary 
exposure to opioids.
    Ninety percent of the acute pain patients receive opioids 
to manage their pain, whether they need them or not. Between 
2011 and 2019, opioid prescriptions decreased by 40 percent, 
which is a good thing, from approximately 250 million to 150 
million prescriptions dispensed. This is true across most payer 
audiences: Medicaid, private, and cash payments. However, among 
Medicare patients, opioid prescribing actually increased 
nominally.
    Furthermore, Medicare's share of opioid prescribing during 
this time increased substantially, from approximately 20 
percent of the country's opioid prescriptions in 2011 to 35 
percent in 2019. This represents a 75 percent increase in just 
under a decade. We clearly have some work to do in Medicare to 
make sure that patients have access to effective pain relief 
agents while also not unnecessarily exposing them to narcotic 
painkillers.
    One opportunity to do this would be to enhance access to 
and use of nonopioid pain relief agents and also other things 
that look at presurgical treatment, whether or not someone 
should be nothing by mouth for an entire time, adequate 
hydration. And I have seen that through places within my 
district.
    Mr. Blum, can you detail CMS's support for policies to 
increase access to and availability of nonaddictive pain 
management options?
    How can my office work with you to make sure that patients 
have robust access to these approaches?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question, Congresswoman. We too 
support the goal to ensure that Medicare beneficiaries have the 
full spectrum of treatment.
    The Part D Medicare program today monitors use very 
carefully to ensure that we don't have inappropriate use. That 
program today works very well. We are happy to follow up to 
learn more how CMS programs can do better.
    Mrs. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, and I will also keep you 
apprised of what is happening within my district and the unique 
approaches they are taking as well.
    Deputy Administrator Blum, H.R. 824, the Telehealth Benefit 
Expansion Act, would increase the ability of employers to offer 
telehealth-only coverage by accepting it from various laws that 
apply specifically to health insurance. During the pandemic, 
employers did this to increase access to care for employees 
that did not have access to major medical insurance, like 
seasonal and part-time workers. I have a technical question on 
the bill.
    Employer health plans are regulated through several 
different statutes, some of which have different requirements 
that are applied and enforced differently. For example, the 
Public Health Service Act includes requirements onto fully 
insured employer plans, small employer plans, and individuals 
that purchase major medical insurance directly from the 
exchanges.
    The ERISA statute includes requirements onto self- and 
fully insured plans, some of which are different than the 
Public Health Service Act's requirement. If the bill were only 
to amend the ERISA statute, would fully insured employers and 
small employers for purchase through the exchanges be able to 
offer telehealth-only plans as an accepted benefit?
    Mr. Blum. I don't believe so, but I am happy to follow up 
to better understand your question.
    Mrs. Miller-Meeks. We would certainly appreciate the 
follow-up, and you can do that written to the subcommittee.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. The gentlelady yields back. That 
completes all the Members for questions.
    We do have--I would have thought you are a Member--you are 
very participatory in this, I know, this issue because you have 
worked hard and traveled to Gettysburg and did everything.
    So it gives me joy to recognize my good friend, Mr. Tonko, 
for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Tonko. Thank you, Chair Guthrie, and thank you, Ranking 
Member Anna Eshoo, for your work with me on this topic and for 
waiving me on for today's hearing, and I thank my friend and 
colleague Representative Armstrong for working with me on 
several of the bills before us today. And thank you for our 
experts at the table as witnesses for joining us.
    Our country has a mental health crisis, a substance use 
crisis, and a fentanyl crisis. And so it requires us--I think 
the presence of everyone in this room today speaks to that 
concern, and want to have a resolve. So my reentry bill needs 
to be done. It is a very, very impactful audience that is 
affected by that legislation, and we need to save their lives.
    So when I hear of IMD exclusion, not requiring any kind of 
adjustment of a funding stream, but I hear it for the reentry 
bill, I get concerned. When I hear suspension versus 
termination discussion--I didn't pull 30 days out of the air. 
They need at least 30 days to get themselves tethered to a 
system and to be strong enough as they leave that incarcerated 
system--incarceration system to be able to survive and beat the 
statistics.
    And when I joined my colleagues in Gettysburg, I 
appreciated that it was an honorable offering they made to join 
them at the hearing. And we heard from the law enforcement 
community that this is a very important tool.
    So thanks to the bipartisan work this committee has done 
over the years, 5 years ago, with the SUPPORT Act, States can 
now apply for a demonstration program to use Medicaid for 
eligible services for justice-involved individuals returning to 
their communities 90 days prerelease.
    Currently, Federal statute, as we know, prohibits any form 
of Federal health coverage for incarcerated individuals, except 
under very limited circumstances. In many States, Medicaid 
coverage is immediately terminated when someone is sent to a 
correctional setting. And in the rest, coverage is suspended, 
and it takes various lengths of time to restart it. This 
creates a serious coverage gap when individuals are released, 
as they often have no access to healthcare or addiction 
treatment during a stressful and dangerous time.
    Mr. Blum, I applaud CMS for moving forward with the 
demonstration program, which was a result of this concern. And 
through my Reentry Act I hope to codify reentry policy.
    I also am proud to champion the Due Process Continuity of 
Care Act with my friends, Representatives Trone, Turner, and 
Rutherford, who also lead Reentry with me. Due Process would 
make certain that pretrial detainees are not kicked off 
Medicaid prior to ever being found guilty of a crime.
    So CMS has said extending Medicaid eligibility prior to 
release can improve connections to community-based providers. 
Can you talk about why that is important?
    And additionally, why does CMS believe that the period 
postincarceration is such a critical time to receive treatment 
and coordination of care?
    Mr. Blum. Thank you for the question. We hear from States, 
we hear from experts that one of the best ways that we can 
prevent relapse is to ensure continuity of coverage. And so we 
are very supportive to the work that you have put forth. We are 
very excited to work with more States to figure out ways for us 
to continue coverage.
    Mr. Tonko. Thank you. And with the recent passage of my 
Mainstreaming Addiction Treatment Act, or MAT Act, we have had 
a dramatic expansion of the United States' healthcare system's 
ability to treat opioid use disorder with buprenorphine, 
increasing the number of medical professionals who can 
prescribe buprenorphine for opioid use disorder from 130,000 to 
1.8-plus million with the removal of the X waiver. That is a 
lot of hope, a lot of lives saved.
    I sent the DEA Administrator a bipartisan letter with 20-
plus Members in March of this year asking several questions 
about increased access to buprenorphine, and specifically asked 
for the DEA to issue additional guidance to all registrants to 
ensure patients get access to this lifesaving medication. To 
date, I have not received a response.
    I also requested a meeting to follow up on this, and so far 
nothing has been set up.
    I am hearing repeatedly from emergency physicians that when 
they write prescriptions for buprenorphine, patients are 
getting told at pharmacies that it is not available. In many 
cases, the pharmacies are saying they are cut off for the month 
and are too close to their limit. In some cases, patients give 
up after going to multiple pharmacies. This is simply 
unacceptable, that someone would get so close to accessing 
addiction treatment and then, at one of the last steps, be 
turned away. I believe that DEA must play a role in clearing up 
this confusion.
    So when will the DEA be responding to my letter?
    Mr. Strait. I am going to take that back to our leadership 
team and get you an answer to that question, sir.
    But I do want to also----
    Mr. Tonko. Well----
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. Just give a quick shout-out to our 
folks at SAMHSA. We have been dealing with the buprenorphine 
access issue at the pharmacy level for over a year and a half 
now.
    Mr. Tonko. And Mr. Chair, if you will indulge me, when will 
DEA issue additional guidance that sends a strong message to 
the community that DEA wants access to addiction medication in 
every community?
    Mr. Strait. I would argue that we have already sent that 
message out, and we will repeat that message again and again.
    Mr. Tonko. And will you----
    Mr. Strait [continuing]. A year ago.
    Mr. Tonko. And will you provide additional clarification to 
distributors, pharmacists, providers so they better embrace 
their role to expand access to addiction treatment? We want 
that 1.83 million achieved.
    Mr. Strait. You are 100 percent correct. So do we. And 
actually, we have been working with our manufacturing and 
distributor communications, and communicating just those 
points.
    Mr. Tonko. Well, thank you. I think this is a time for us 
to come together, not deal with politics but with facts to come 
together, to make certain we respond to the needs of those that 
are incarcerated, struggling with the illness of addiction. 
Let's not start negotiating other terms around this issue that 
deals with the most vulnerable audience. And I would hope today 
we would hear a go-forward-and-get-it-done attitude. We need to 
address the reentry bill.
    And with that, Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thanks. The gentleman yields back. All 
questions have been asked, and the time has expired for asking 
questions.
    So I will move to--I will ask unanimous consent to insert 
in the record the documents included on the staff hearing 
documents lists, including both minority and--minority 
information.
    Ms. Eshoo. So moved, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Guthrie. Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information appears at the conclusion of the hearing.]
    Mr. Guthrie. And I will remind the Members that they have 
10 days to submit questions for the record--so you could 
receive further questions--and ask the witnesses to respond 
promptly. Members should submit their questions by the close of 
business July the 5th.
    Yes?
    Mr. Tonko. Mr. Chair, if I might, I thank you for allowing 
me to waive on, and you and the ranking member have been most 
helpful. Let's get this reentry done, and let's solve the 
crisis nationally.
    Mr. Guthrie. Thank you. Thank you for your kind words.
    So Members will submit their questions by close of business 
on July 5.
    So without objection, the subcommittee is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 1:10 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]
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