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INVESTIGATING HOW THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IGNORED CRIES FOR HELP FROM 
                               STUDENTS


                 AT HASKELL INDIAN NATIONS UNIVERSITY

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                        JOINT OVERSIGHT HEARING

                               before the

              SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS

                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES

                                and the

       SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

                COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE

                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                               __________

                         Tuesday, July 23, 2024

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                           Serial No. 118-137
                    (Committee on Natural Resources)

                           Serial No. 118-59
               (Committee on Education and the Workforce)

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                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES

                     BRUCE WESTERMAN, AR, Chairman
                    DOUG LAMBORN, CO, Vice Chairman
                  RAUL M. GRIJALVA, AZ, Ranking Member

Doug Lamborn, CO                            Grace F. Napolitano, CA
Robert J. Wittman, VA                       Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan,
Tom McClintock, C                                   ACNMI
Paul Gosar, AZ                              Jared Huffman, CA
Garret Graves,                              LARuben Gallego, AZ
Aumua Amata C. Radewagen, AS                Joe Neguse, CO
Doug LaMalfa, CA                            Mike Levin, CA
Daniel Webster, FL                          Katie Porter, CA
Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon, PR                Teresa Leger Fernandez, NM
Russ Fulcher, ID                            Melanie A. Stansbury, NM
Pete Stauber, MN                            Mary Sattler Peltola, AK
John R. Curtis, UT                          Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, NY
Tom Tiffany, WI                             Kevin MulliVal T. Hoyle, OR
Lauren Boebert, COn, CA                     Sydney Kamlager-Dove, CA
Jerry Carl, AL                              Seth Magaziner, RI
Matt Rosendale, MT                          Nydia M. Velazquez, NY
Cliff Bentz, OR                             Ed Case, HI
Jen Kiggans, VA                             Debbie Dingell, MI
Jim Moylan, GU                              Susie Lee, NV
Wesley P. Hunt, TX
Mike Collins, GA
Anna Paulina Luna, FL
John Duarte, CA
Harriet M. Hageman, WY

               

                    Vivian Moeglein, Staff Director
                      Tom Connally, Chief Counsel
                 Lora Snyder, Democratic Staff Director
                   http://naturalresources.house.gov
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              SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS

                        PAUL GOSAR, AZ, Chairman
                      MIKE COLLINS, GA, Vice Chair
                MELANIE A. STANSBURY, NM, Ranking Member

Matt Rosendale, MT                   Ed Case, HI
Wesley P. Hunt, TX                   Ruben Gallego, AZ
Mike Collins, GA                     Susie Lee, NV
Anna Paulina Luna, FL                Raul M. Grijalva, AZ, ex officio
Bruce Westerman, AR, ex officio
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                COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE

               VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina, Chairwoman

JOE WILSON, South Carolina           ROBERT C. ``BOBBY'' SCOTT, 
GLENN THOMPSON, Pennsylvania             Virginia,
TIM WALBERG, Michigan                  Ranking Member
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin            RAUL M. GRIJALVA, Arizona
ELISE M. STEFANIK, New York          JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut
RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia               GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN,
JIM BANKS, Indiana                     Northern Mariana Islands
JAMES COMER, Kentucky                FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida
LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania          SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon
BURGESS OWENS, Utah                  MARK TAKANO, California
BOB GOOD, Virginia                   ALMA S. ADAMS, North Carolina
LISA McCLAIN, Michigan               MARK DeSAULNIER, California
MARY MILLER, Illinois                DONALD NORCROSS, New Jersey
MICHELLE STEEL, California           PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington
RON ESTES, Kansas                    SUSAN WILD, Pennsylvania
JULIA LETLOW, Louisiana              LUCY McBATH, Georgia
KEVIN KILEY, California              JAHANA HAYES, Connecticut
AARON BEAN, Florida                  ILHAN OMAR, Minnesota
ERIC BURLISON, Missouri              HALEY M. STEVENS, Michigan
NATHANIEL MORAN, Texas               TERESA LEGER FERNANDEZ, New Mexico
LORI CHAVEZ-DeREMER, Oregon          KATHY MANNING, North Carolina
BRANDON WILLIAMS, New York           FRANK J. MRVAN, Indiana
ERIN HOUCHIN, Indiana                JAMAAL BOWMAN, New York
VACANCY

                    Carson Middleton, Staff Director
              Veronique Pluviose, Minority Staff Director
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       SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

                     BURGESS, OWENS, Utah, Chairman

GLENN THOMPSON, Pennsylvania         FREDERICA WILSON, Florida,
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin              Ranking Member
ELISE M. STEFANIK, New York          MARK TAKANO, California
JIM BANKS, Indiana                   PRAMILA,JAYAPAL, Washington
LLOYD SMUCKER, Pennsylvania          TERESA LEGER FERNANDEZ, New Mexico
BOB GOOD, Virginia                   KATHY E. MANNING, North Carolina
NATHANIEL MORAN, Texas               LUCY McBATH, Georgia
LORI CHAVEZ-DeREMER, Oregon          RAUL M. GRIJALVA, Arizona
ERIN HOUCHIN, Indiana                JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut
BRANDON WILLIAMS, New York           GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, 
VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina            Northern Mariana Islands
VACANCY                              SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon
                                     ALMA ADAMS, North Carolina
                                CONTENTS

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Hearing Memo.....................................................   vii
Hearing held on Tuesday, July 23, 2024...........................     1

Statement of Members:

    Owens, Hon. Burgess, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Utah..............................................     2
    Stansbury, Hon. Melanie A., a Representative in Congress from 
      the State of New Mexico....................................     3
    Gosar, Hon. Paul, a Representative in Congress from the State 
      of Arizona.................................................     4
    Bonamici, Hon. Suzanne, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Oregon............................................     6

Statement of Witnesses:

    Panel I:

    Newland, Hon. Bryan, Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs, 
      U.S. Department of the Interior, Washington, DC............     7
        Prepared statement of....................................     9
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    14
    Elliott, Matthew, Assistant Inspector General for 
      Investigations, Office of the Inspector General, U.S. 
      Department of the Interior, Washington, DC.................    17
        Prepared statement of....................................    18
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    21

    Panel II:

    Graham, Ronald J., Former President, Haskell Indian Nations 
      University, Lawrence, Kansas...............................    52
        Prepared statement of....................................    53
    Martin, Emily, Chief Program Officer, National Women's Law 
      Center, Washington, DC.....................................    58
        Prepared statement of....................................    59
    Mayes, Clay J., Head Coach, Track and Field and Cross 
      Country, Haskell Athletic Department, Haskell Indian 
      Nations University, Lawrence, Kansas.......................    69
        Prepared statement of....................................    71

Additional Materials Submitted for the Record:

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Gosar

        Lexie Follette, Letter to the Committees dated July 22, 
          2024...................................................    90

        Venida S. Chenault, Ph.D., Letter to the Committees dated 
          July 19, 2024..........................................    92

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Hageman

        Tierra Standing Soldier Thomas, Letter to the Committees.    95

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To:        House Committee on Natural Resources Republican Members

From:     Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations staff, Michelle 
        Lane ([email protected]) and Lucas Drill 
        (Lucas.Drill@mail. house.gov)

Date:     Tuesday, July 23, 2024

Subject:   Oversight Hearing on ``Investigating how the Biden 
        Administration Ignored Cries for Help from Students at Haskell 
        Indian Nations University''
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        _______

    The House Committee on Natural Resources, Subcommittee on Oversight 
and Investigations and the House Committee on Education & the 
Workforce, Subcommittee on Higher Education & Workforce Development 
will hold a joint oversight hearing titled ``Investigating how the 
Biden Administration Ignored Cries for Help from Students at Haskell 
Indian Nations University'' on Tuesday, July 23, 2024, at 3:15 p.m. in 
1334 Longworth House Office Building.

    Member offices are requested to notify Cross Thompson 
(Cross.Thompson @mail.house.gov) by 4:30 p.m. on Monday, July 22, 2024, 
if their member intends to participate in the hearing.

I. KEY MESSAGES

     Haskell Indian Nations University (HINU or ``Haskell''), 
            the only four-year university operated by the Bureau of 
            Indian Education (BIE), with federal support from the 
            Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA), has been plagued by reports 
            of widespread dysfunction and serious misconduct--including 
            theft, fraud, and sexual assault--at the university.

     Haskell students' pleas for justice have been ignored by 
            Department of the Interior (DOI) Secretary Deb Haaland, 
            Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Indian Affairs 
            Bryan Newland, and other officials from the BIA and BIE.

     The students and faculty at HINU deserve a safe learning 
            and working environment. Secretary Haaland's DOI, BIE, and 
            BIA have utterly failed to provide that environment and 
            protect Haskell's community of Native American students and 
            employees.

     A BIE investigation and report, detailing serious 
            allegations and findings of wrongdoing at HINU, was buried 
            until the agency was legally compelled to publicly produce 
            it. Even then, BIE produced a heavily redacted version.

     Until Secretary Haaland, BIE, and BIA are held responsible 
            for Haskell's mismanagement, Native American students and 
            faculty at HINU will continue to suffer.

II. WITNESSES
Panel I:

     The Hon. Bryan Newland, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of 
            Indian Affairs, U.S. Department of the Interior, 
            Washington, DC.

     Mr. Matthew Elliott, Assistant Inspector General for 
            Investigations, Office of the Inspector General, U.S. 
            Department of the Interior, Washington, DC.
Panel II:

     Dr. Ronald J. Graham, Former President, Haskell Indian 
            Nations University, Lawrence, KS

     Ms. Emily Martin, J.D., Chief Program Officer, National 
            Women's Law Center, Washington, DC. [Minority Witness]

     Mr. Clay Mayes, Head Coach, Track and Field, Cross 
            Country, Haskell Athletic Department, Haskell Indian 
            Nations University, Lawrence, KS

III. INTRODUCTION

    President Biden's nomination of U.S. Representative Deb Haaland to 
serve as the Secretary of the Interior was lauded as an historic 
moment: Deb Haaland would be the first Native American Cabinet 
Secretary.\1\ Secretary Haaland's confirmation was viewed as an 
opportunity to right past wrongs, stamp out previous and ongoing 
mistreatment of Indian youth in schools, and combat pervasive sexual 
assaults of Indian women.\2\
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    \1\ See Cara Korte, What Deb Haaland's historic confirmation means 
to Native Americans, CBS NEWS (Mar. 18, 2021), https://www.cbsnews.com/
news/deb-haaland-native-american-confirmation-interior-secretary/.
    \2\ See Casey Cep, Deb Haaland Confronts the History of the Federal 
Agency She Leads, THE NEW YORKER (Apr. 29, 2024), https://
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/06/deb-haaland-confronts-the-
history-of-the-federal-agency-she-leads.

    Since her confirmation, Secretary Haaland has voiced understanding 
of her leadership's importance for Native Americans.\3\ In April of 
2024, Secretary Haaland wrote:
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    \3\ See Korte, supra note 1.

        This National Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month, it 
        is imperative we do all we can to support Indigenous survivors 
        by holding perpetrators accountable, and bringing an end to a 
        culture that has allowed sexual assault to occur for far too 
        long.\4\
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    \4\ Secretary Deb Haaland (@SecDebHaaland), TWITTER (Apr. 1, 2024, 
12:34 PM), https://x.com/SecDebHaaland/status/1774837761037520983.

    Despite Secretary Haaland's words and position of power, under the 
Biden administration's watch malfeasance has plagued HINU--the 
institution meant to be the pinnacle of BIE-operated schools. In 2022, 
BIE investigated assertions of misconduct at Haskell reported by 
students and faculty. BIE's investigation concluded with the Haskell 
Indian Nations University--Administrative Investigation Report (BIE 
Report), which detailed serious widespread allegations of sexual 
assault, harassment, bullying, nepotism, theft, retaliation, waste, 
fraud, and abuse.\5\
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    \5\ See U.S. DEPT. OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF INDIAN EDUCATION, 
HASKELL INDIAN NATIONS UNIVERSITY--ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION REPORT 
(2023).
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    The students and faculty at HINU deserve a safe learning and 
working environment. Secretary Haaland's DOI, BIE, and BIA have utterly 
failed to provide that environment and protect Haskell's community of 
Native American students and employees.

IV. BACKGROUND

A. Bureau of Indian Education Cover-Up

    HINU has a well-documented history of mismanagement, misconduct, 
and retaliation against students and employees brave enough to report 
wrongdoing. In November of 2018, the DOI Office of Inspector General 
(OIG) published a report highlighting significant allegations of 
official mishandling of complaints, bullying, nepotism, employee 
favoritism, fraud, and sexual assault.\6\ Since the publication of this 
report, allegations of misconduct, dysfunction, and retaliation have 
only increased. Because of these issues, HINU cannot retain 
leadership--Haskell's latest President, Frank Arpan, is the 
university's eighth president in six years.\7\
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    \6\ See U.S. DEPT. OF THE INTERIOR OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL, 
INVESTIGATIVE REPORT OF MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS AT HASKELL INDIAN 
NATIONS UNIVERSITY (2018). This report did not sustain every allegation 
but highlighted serious issues dating back to at least 2014. For 
example, Haskell officials underreported crime statistics and failed to 
follow the university's own guidelines for addressing misconduct 
complaints as serious as sexual assault. The report also highlighted 
instances of bullying, intimidation, and nepotism.
    \7\ See Max McCoy, Report reveals `dysfunction' at Haskell 
University. We owe the past--and future--much more., KANSAS REFLECTOR 
(Apr. 28, 2024), https://kansasreflector.com/2024/04/28/report-reveals-
dysfunction-at-haskell-university-we-owe-the-past-and-future-much-
more/.
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    Perhaps no example is more illuminating of the pervasive issues at 
Haskell than that of cross-country running coach Clay Mayes. From the 
moment Mr. Mayes accused two colleagues of wrongdoing, namely theft and 
sexual assault of a student, he faced severe retaliation from other 
members of the faculty and staff.\8\ Mr. Mayes' accusations were later 
substantiated and retaliatory allegations against him were proven 
false.\9\ In November of 2021, after Mr. Mayes reported misconduct, 
HINU ordered an investigation of Mr. Mayes.\10\ This investigation was 
carried out by the United States Postal Service (USPS) office in 
Massachusetts.\11\ Mr. Mayes' repeated requests for a DOI OIG 
investigation were denied,\12\ and the USPS investigation concluded 
after eight months.\13\ In April of 2022, HINU terminated Mr. Mayes' 
employment contract.\14\
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    \8\ Id.
    \9\ See ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION REPORT, supra note 5.
    \10\ Letter from Clay J. Mayes to Anthony Dearman, Director, Bureau 
of Indian Education, Dept. of the Interior (July 28, 2023), https://
lawrencekstimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/
ReinstatementPetitionMayestoDearman1-1_Redacted.pdf.
    \11\ Id.
    \12\ Id.
    \13\ Id.
    \14\ Id.
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    Following Mr. Mayes' termination, Haskell students came forward to 
report that they were coerced into sign no-contact orders that 
restricted their ability to discuss their experience with Mr. Mayes at 
Haskell, even with their parents.\15\ Despite the threat of retribution 
by HINU officials, several students nevertheless publicly defended Mr. 
Mayes. Students made clear that Mr. Mayes ``stood up for us against 
this abusive clique [of faculty] that has been both wicked and vengeful 
while everyone else stood silent.'' \16\ Those same students also 
highlighted that Mr. Mayes then ``became a victim of these attacks, 
abuse, harassment, by the same group [of HINU faculty].'' \17\
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    \15\ See Austin Hornbostel, A campus `in disarray': Report on 
investigation of misconduct allegation at Haskell to be released after 
more than a year of secrecy, LAWRENCE JOURNAL-WORLD (Apr. 21, 2024), 
https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2024/apr/21/a-campus-in-disarray-report-
on-investigation-of-misconduct-allegation-at-haskell-to-be-released-
after-more-than-a-year-of-secrecy/.
    \16\ Letter from Haskell Indian Nations University Students, Cross 
Country Running Team, to the Honorable Deb Haaland, Secretary, Dept. of 
the Interior (Jan. 16, 2023) (on file with the Committee on Natural 
Resources).
    \17\ Id.
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    After the outcry, BIE ordered an investigation into the students' 
claims and the circumstances of Mr. Mayes' termination.\18\ Although 
BIE's investigation was meant to last two weeks, the investigators 
remained on campus for six months as they worked to untangle the web of 
issues at Haskell.\19\ Students who were interviewed as part of the 
investigation requested copies of the final report; the investigators 
promised that the report would be publicly released.\20\ Yet, the 
report was not published by BIE.
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    \18\ See Hornbostel, supra note 15.
    \19\ See McCoy, supra note 7.
    \20\ See Letter from Haskell Indian Nations University Students, 
supra note 17.
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    In response to the lack of transparency, in January of 2023, 
Haskell cross country running student-athletes sent a letter to 
Secretary Haaland formally requesting the BIE Report's release.\21\ In 
the letter, students wrote that ``Haskell's response is non-existent'' 
and that they believe ``the investigation's findings are 100% covered 
up.'' \22\ The students' letter was published by a local newspaper in 
March of 2023 in an attempt to draw more attention to the students' 
message.\23\
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    \21\ Id.
    \22\ Id.
    \23\ See Austin Hornbostel, In letter to U.S. Secretary of the 
Interior, Haskell students claim a 6-month investigation took place on 
campus but hasn't been made public, LAWRENCE JOURNAL-WORLD (Mar. 10, 
2023), https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2023/mar/10/in-letter-to-u-s-
secretary-of-the-interior-haskell-students-claim-a-6-month-
investigation-took-place-on-campus-but-hasnt-been-made-public/.
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    On the day of the letter's publication, students received an email 
from former BIE Human Resources Officer Jackie Shamblin which informed 
the students that they would ``never know what actions are being 
tak[en] to address specific findings from these investigations.'' \24\ 
In response, students sent another letter to Secretary Haaland. The 
students wrote that they ``reported `systemic abuse, and neglect of 
victims'' but that ``Shamblin declares such abuse will continue to be 
protected and victims will continue to be disavowed all right to 
information . . ..'' \25\
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    \24\ E-mail from Jackie R. Shamblin, Human Resources Director, 
Bureau of Indian Education, U.S. Dept. of the Interior, to Haskell 
Indian Nations University Students, Cross Country Running Team (Mar. 
10, 2023) (on file with Committee on Natural Resources).
    \25\ Letter from Haskell Indian Nations University Students, Cross 
Country Running Team, to the Honorable Deb Haaland, Secretary, Dept. of 
the Interior (Mar. 15, 2023) (on file with the Committee on Natural 
Resources).
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    Secretary Haaland never responded to the HINU students' pleas for 
justice. Unfortunately, HINU, BIE, and BIA officials have all joined in 
the Secretary's nonfeasance.\26\
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    \26\ See Hornbostel, supra note 15.
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B. Freedom of Information Act Requests and the Switched Report

    Prying the BIE Report from BIE's fingers proved immensely 
difficult.\27\ In April of 2023, Public Employees for Environmental 
Responsibility (PEER) submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) 
request to BIE, requesting the public release of the BIE Report.\28\ 
Four Haskell students who were interviewed as part of BIE's 
investigation also filed FOIA requests in September of 2023.\29\ After 
being legally compelled to comply with the FOIA requests, BIE finally 
released a 528-page redacted report.\30\ However, the report released 
by BIE was not the one requested by PEER or the HINU students. Shortly 
thereafter, PEER filed suit to force BIE to produce the correct BIE 
Report, which was released with heavy redactions in November of 
2023.\31\
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    \27\ See Jeff Ruch and Laura Dumais, Report on Abuse of Indian 
Students Finally Surfaces: Lawsuit Pried Haskell School Probe Out of 
Bureau of Indian Education, PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL 
RESPONSIBILITY (April 22, 2024), https://peer.org/report-on-abuse-of-
indian-students-finally-surfaces/.
    \28\ Id.
    \29\ Id.
    \30\ Id.
    \31\ Id.
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    Information provided to the Committee on Natural Resources 
(Committee) indicates that the BIE Report may have been altered between 
the time it was submitted on November 7, 2022, and dated on January 13, 
2023.\32\ In July of 2024, the Committee sent a letter to BIE Director 
Tony Dearman seeking information explaining BIE's numerous failures 
related to HINU and the BIE Report.\33\ The Committee's letter and the 
requests therein went unanswered.\34\ The Committee is dismayed that 
Secretary Haaland and other DOI, BIA, and BIE leaders have entirely 
failed the students and faculty of Haskell.
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    \32\ See ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION REPORT, supra note 5.
    \33\ See Letter from Rep. Bruce Westerman, Chairman, H. Comm. on 
Natural Resources, et al., to Tony Dearman, Director, Bureau of Indian 
Education, U.S. Dept. of the Interior (July 2, 2024), https://
naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/
ltr_to_doi_regarding_haskell_univ_letter .pdf.
    \34\ Id.

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C. The Report: Allegations of Misconduct Against Employees and Students

    The BIE Report--even as released--includes damning information 
highlighting the myriad issues at Haskell, including extensive abuse 
and criminal activity.\35\ At its core, the report is a shocking 
indictment of a university that has allowed a group of faculty members 
to install a culture of sweeping misconduct and retaliation against 
students and employees under the rug.\36\
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    \35\ See ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION REPORT, supra note 5.
    \36\ See Hornbostel, supra note 15.
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    The BIE Report describes an unacceptable response to students 
reporting sexual assault, as faculty members repeatedly disregarded 
allegations, did not provide sufficient care and support for survivors, 
and failed to notify law enforcement.\37\ One student, Tierra Thomas, 
reported sexual abuse on more than 30 occasions, but was ignored by 
HINU staff.\38\ Ms. Thomas publicly asserted that her attacker was not 
removed from campus and allegedly committed another assault.\39\ Rather 
than support her, Haskell staff tormented Ms. Thomas as retaliation for 
speaking out about her experience. Ms. Thomas' grades slipped as a 
result, and she was suspended from HINU before Mr. Mayes helped her 
appeal the decision.\40\
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    \37\ Id.
    \38\ See Austin Hornbostel, Haskell student speaks out about 
alleged sexual abuse on campus, says she has reported what she's 
experienced `over 30 times', LAWRENCE JOURNAL-WORLD (Sep. 21. 2023), 
https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2023/sep/21/haskell-student-speaks-out-
about-alleged-systematic-sexual-abuse-on-campus-says-she-has-reported-
what-shes-experienced-over-30-times/.
    \39\ Id.
    \40\ See Shannon Najmabadi, The Federal Government Runs a College. 
It Has Had Eight Presidents in Six Years., THE WALL STREET JOURNAL 
(Feb. 15, 2024), https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/the-federal-
government-runs-a-college-it-has-had-eight-presidents-in-six-years-
1646cf46.
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    Ms. Thomas is not alone. Other HINU students who have reported 
sexual assaults did not receive support from the HINU faculty.\41\ In 
one case, a student allegedly sexually assaulted another and, although 
the abuser's housing privileges were revoked, there is no record of the 
meeting taking place.\42\ In another case, a coach who allegedly 
touched a female student inappropriately was reprimanded only by being 
told to work remotely.\43\ At least three other students were raped or 
sexually assaulted during separate off-campus university events.\44\ 
The BIE report makes clear that Haskell's own sexual assault reporting 
procedures--if and when they are followed--are insufficient and 
dangerous.\45\ Absurdly, the report points out that the university does 
not believe it is necessary to forward student sexual assault reports 
to local law enforcement because students are adults.\46\
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    \41\ See Hornbostel, supra note 15.
    \42\ Id.
    \43\ Id.
    \44\ Id.
    \45\ Jeff Ruch et al., Report on Abuse of Indian Students Finally 
Surfaces: Lawsuit Pried Haskell School Probe Out of Bureau of Indian 
Education, PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY (Apr. 22, 
2024), https://peer.org/report-on-abuse-of-indian-students-finally-
surfaces/.
    \46\ Id.
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    Furthermore, the BIE Report exonerates Mr. Mayes and demonstrates 
that he was wrongfully terminated because he reported misconduct.\47\ 
The BIE Report suggests that at HINU, ``Mayes was set up for failure . 
. ..'' \48\ Due in large part to the BIE Report's publication, it is 
the Committee's understanding that Mr. Mayes was recently reinstated as 
a coach at HINU.\49\
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    \47\ See ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION REPORT, supra note 5.
    \48\ Id.
    \49\ Document on file with the Committee on Natural Resources.
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    Although the BIE Report could not substantiate every claim of 
malfeasance--due at least in part to the sheer number of claims--the 
report is a positive first step toward untangling the web of 
dysfunction at HINU that has been ignored by those government officials 
who claim to care most.

V. CONCLUSION

    Secretary Haaland delivered the 2022 commencement address to 
graduating HINU students in which she described the Biden 
administration's commitment to help tribal communities. Yet, Secretary 
Haaland and other Biden administration officials have turned their 
backs on the students and faculty at HINU by allowing dysfunction and 
misconduct to go unchecked. Until Secretary Haaland, BIE, and BIA are 
held responsible for Haskell's mismanagement, Native American students 
and faculty at HINU will continue to suffer.
                                     



    OVERSIGHT HEARING ON INVESTIGATING HOW THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION



    IGNORED CRIES FOR HELP FROM STUDENTS AT HASKELL INDIAN NATIONS 
                               UNIVERSITY

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                         Tuesday, July 23, 2024

                     U.S. House of Representatives

              Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations

             Committee on Natural Resources, joint with the

      Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Development,

               Committee on Education and the Workforce,

                             Washington, DC

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    The Subcommittees met, pursuant to notice, at 3:20 p.m., in 
Room 1334, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Paul Gosar 
[Chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations] 
presiding.
    Present: Representatives Gosar, Owens, Grothman, Good, 
Collins, Rulli, Foxx, Westerman, Hageman, Mann; Stansbury, 
Takano, Jayapal, Leger Fernandez, Manning, Bonamici, Adams, and 
Scott of Virginia.

    Mr. Westerman [presiding]. The Subcommittee on Oversight 
and Investigations and the Subcommittee on Higher Education and 
Workforce Development will come to order.
    Without objection, the Chairs are authorized to declare 
recess of the Subcommittees at any time.
    The Subcommittees are meeting today to hear testimony on 
investigating how the Biden administration ignored cries for 
help from students at Haskell Indian Nations University.
    Under House National Resources Committee Rule 4(f), any 
oral opening statements at hearings are limited to the Chairman 
and the Ranking Minority Member. For purposes of this joint 
hearing, that will also be extended to the Chair and Ranking 
Member of the Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce 
Development of the Committee on Education and the Workforce. I 
therefore ask unanimous consent that all other Members' 
statements be made part of the hearing record if they are 
submitted in accordance with House Natural Resources Committee 
Rule 3(o).
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I ask unanimous consent that the following Members be 
allowed to sit and participate in today's hearing. The 
gentlewoman from Wyoming, Ms. Hageman, the gentleman from 
Kansas, Mr. Mann, and the gentleman from Utah, Mr. Owens.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I now recognize the gentleman from Utah, Mr. Owens, for an 
opening statement.

   STATEMENT OF THE HON. BURGESS OWENS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
                CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF UTAH

    Mr. Owens. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Committee gathers 
today to address the many scandals plaguing Haskell Indian 
Nations University. This institution is one of two post-
secondary schools operated by the Bureau of Indian Education, 
tasked to provide high-quality education to Native American 
students. Instead, it is plagued with a history of 
mismanagement, abuse, and corruption.
    The issues we are discussing today are not only a disgrace 
to the university and the Federal Government entities 
responsible, but also to students and faculty harmed due to the 
lack of metrics and accountability. This permissive and toxic 
mindset has thrived for too long and has negatively impacted 
numerous Native American lives. For too long, this community 
has suffered from a lack of true and accountable oversight. For 
too long, the soft bigotry of low expectations has prevailed 
when it comes down to the Native American community.
    This widespread dysfunction at Haskell is not an isolated 
incident. It is a symptom of systematic failures, particularly 
within the Bureau of Indian Education. The Bureau's oversight 
has been inadequate, allowing problems to fester unchecked.
    The failures that will be addressed today rest squarely on 
the shoulders of the Bureau, Secretary Haaland's oversight, and 
by extension President Joe Biden.
    The investigation, started with President Trump, should 
make it a priority to rectify the gross neglect of Haskell. The 
students at Haskell have been deprived of what should be the 
No. 1 guarantee in our educational system, a safe learning 
environment. The allegations in the recently released 
investigative report are startling. They include bullying, 
harassment, multiple failures to address sexual assault cases, 
and a general culture of unresponsiveness to student 
complaints.
    Perhaps more troublesome is that the report's eventual 
product was delayed. Evidence points to possible omissions and 
alterations to the final, publicly available copy. With each of 
these new developments, the academic integrity of the 
institution has been severely compromised.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses. We will hear 
from individuals who experienced things that no one should have 
to experience at a school or in the workplace. The Bureau of 
Indian Education will be asked to explain why a Bureau-operated 
school tolerates the exploitation of its students. In part, 
Haskell's institution code states to be accountable for words, 
thoughts, and deeds, and engage in the conduct and behavior 
that reflects the institutional values of the university. This 
code cannot just be words.
    This Committee must oversee the implementation of reforms 
that will prevent future generations of Native American 
students from being harmed.
    With that, I look forward to the hearing and yield back to 
the Chairman.

    Mr. Westerman. The gentleman yields back.
    The Chair now recognizes Ranking Member Stansbury for an 
opening statement.

STATEMENT OF THE HON. MELANIE A. STANSBURY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO

    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to start by 
saying thank you to our witnesses for being here today. I know 
that for many who are here to tell their stories, it is with 
great personal sacrifice. And you are here to tell very 
difficult stories about the trauma that you have experienced. 
So, I want to say thank you for your bravery, thank you for 
your service, and thank you for being willing to tell your 
story publicly.
    It is important that we are having this hearing on a 
bipartisan basis, and we are grateful to also have officials 
from the Administration and from Department of the Interior. We 
have been working across both sides of the aisle to come to the 
same goal, which is to host a hearing with the support of our 
Education and Workforce Development Committee and the 
Subcommittee on Higher Education, to really understand what is 
happening at this institution, why have there been continued 
failures across the many years that these egregious abuses have 
been happening, and what can we do to address these problems 
going forward?
    So, just a little bit about what we are going to hear 
today. In 2018, and I think it is important to identify that 
this was during the last administration, the Director of the 
Inspector General issued a scathing report about Haskell, which 
included multiple cases of sexual assault, domestic violence, 
and victimization of students. The university president tried 
to cover it up by under-reporting the statistics. Employees 
felt intimidated and bullied by the president at the time, and 
that president used their influence to help get a family member 
hired.
    This year, in 2024, under pressure from a lawsuit, the 
Bureau of Indian Education finally released a highly redacted 
report issued over a year earlier that raised even more 
concerning findings. There was non-responsiveness to student 
grievances, there was student harassment, bullying of 
administrators, allegations of theft, nepotism, sexual assault, 
workplace harassment, fraud, waste, and abuse. And multiple 
administrative failures, including harassment and bullying, 
that were ignored by the university president and others.
    The university leadership worked to manipulate the outcomes 
of these investigations, and we see allegations that go back at 
least 17 years.
    The Department of Education conducted its own investigation 
that substantiated claims of academic fraud dating back to 
2007. And just last week, a former Haskell regent was federally 
indicted on multiple counts of felony assault resulting in 
substantial bodily injury.
    There have been eight presidents in 6 years. So, clearly, 
we have a leadership problem at Haskell.
    The Department of the Interior, the Bureau of Indian 
Education, Indian Affairs, and Haskell administration have 
taken some steps to remediate these issues. We have a new 
permanent president after several years of an acting president. 
They updated their sexual misconduct and student rights and 
conduct policies. They are offering regular trainings for 
students, staff and faculty, expanded behavioral health 
services, added a campus advocate coordinator. But clearly, it 
is not enough.
    These actions are the floor, not the ceiling. And we are 
here today to really understand what has been going on and how 
Haskell can be turned into a place where students feel safe, 
where they can bring their whole selves to school, and the 
culture of this institution from the top to the bottom can be 
reformed.
    We know that in order to do this, it takes leadership, it 
takes time, it takes persistence, it takes prioritization.
    And we know that it is going to have to take vision. So, I 
look forward to the conversation today. I look forward to 
hearing from those who have come to testify, and to the 
bipartisan work ahead across both committees to address these 
concerns.

    Dr. Gosar [presiding]. Thank you. I am going to recognize 
myself for my introductory statement.

STATEMENT OF THE HON. PAUL GOSAR, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS 
                   FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA

    Dr. Gosar. Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to thank 
the witnesses for traveling here today for this important 
matter. And I would like to extend a special thanks and welcome 
to our colleagues from the Subcommittee on Higher Education and 
Workforce Development, who have been our partners on this 
issue.
    And I also appreciate our Democrat colleagues' engagement 
on the issue. Everyone here recognizes that change must come to 
Haskell Indian Nations University.
    Our hearing today will discuss how the Biden administration 
has turned their backs on the students at the Haskell Indian 
Nations University, a Bureau of Indian Education school with 
students from federally recognized tribes across the nation. 
Haskell University is a critical educational resource for 
Indian youth. And as you will hear today, has so much potential 
to make a difference for Indian students.
    Unfortunately, this administration has allowed misconduct, 
including but not limited to issues from reporting of sexual 
assault, fraud, and nepotism on campus to continue under her 
watch. Secretary Haaland has failed students at Haskell 
University.
    Though Secretary Haaland has stated her commitment to 
improving Indian education and addressing the sexual assaults 
of Indian women, she has done nothing to address these issues 
at Haskell University, despite desperate pleas from the student 
body and from certain faculty. The students there deserve to 
feel safe while pursuing their education. They deserve to learn 
and grow in a community that is free from criminal activity and 
the threat of retaliation for just speaking out.
    The misconduct at Haskell University is not new. Back in 
2018, the DOI Office of Inspector General issued a report that 
uncovered under-reporting of crimes at Haskell and how faculty 
failed to follow established protocols for reporting. However, 
today's hearing addresses an investigation that took place in 
2022 over the serious instances of misconduct reported by 
students and faculty, and the wrongful termination of cross 
country coach Clay Mayes, one of the witnesses here today.
    When he was hired, Coach Mayes observed misconduct, and he 
decided to do the right thing, report it. In response to his 
concerns, he was retaliated against and removed from his 
position. During this time, students on the cross country team 
were forced to sign no-contact orders with Coach Mayes. The 
orders signed under duress prevented them from speaking to 
their parents about what they had witnessed or undergone. Yet, 
the students made the hard decision to speak out, despite the 
possibility of facing retaliation for doing so.
    The Bureau of Indian Education initiated an investigation 
into these allegations funded for 2 weeks. However, 2 weeks 
quickly became 6 months, as investigators uncovered issue after 
issue after issue, scandal after scandal.
    When the investigation completed, the AIB report was not 
publicly released and students were stonewalled by the BIE 
human resource officer at the time, who said, ``You will never 
see this report,'' is the quote.
    After a lengthy legal battle over the release of the AIB 
report, and after being compelled to do so, BIE released their 
report, but it was the wrong report. This was no mistake. Then 
finally, BIE released the AIB report, but it was heavily 
redacted.
    The deceptive conduct by the Bureau of Indian Education 
regarding the AIB report is ongoing. Despite a recent request 
from our Committee, BIE has yet to hand over the unredacted 
report. This is a very simple request for the Department to 
fulfill, and I expect to see the unredacted AIB report very 
soon.
    Make no mistake. Members and staff understand that a report 
of this nature would likely contain highly sensitive 
information. That is no excuse. There are ways to review that 
material that would not reveal the identity of the individual 
publicly and could ensure that the AIB report would not have to 
be shared with the general public.
    The Biden administration and Secretary Haaland's Department 
have turned their back on the students and the faculty under 
threat, rather than bringing true accountability and change to 
the university. The students at Haskell Indian Nations 
University and the American people deserve answers for the 
allegations of misreporting of sexual assault, nepotism, fraud, 
theft, and so much that goes on.
    Haskell University should be a safe place for Indian 
students to grow, learn, and prepare themselves for the next 
step in life. I am confident this can still be achieved, but it 
will require hard work and true accountability.
    Today, the Committee will hear from the individuals whose 
lives have been changed by their experiences at Haskell 
University. Despite the challenges that they have been through, 
they agreed to come before this Committee because they too 
believe that change must come to the university. Indian 
students across the nation deserve better.
    I am committed to real accountability at the university and 
the Department of the Interior for their repeated failure to 
address the dysfunction and misconduct at Haskell Indian 
Nations University.
    I now observe the Ranking Member from the Subcommittee on 
Higher Education, Ms. Bonamici, for her opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. SUZANNE BONAMICI, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
               CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF OREGON

    Ms. Bonamici. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. And thank 
you also Chairman Owens and Ranking Member Stansbury.
    And thank you to the witnesses for being here today. I 
appreciate for many of you this might be difficult, especially 
when we are asking you to publicly reshare what may be personal 
and sometimes traumatic stories.
    I want to start by acknowledging our country's shameful 
history of mistreating and forcibly assimilating Native people. 
In the past years, we have gone to great lengths to attempt to 
rectify a fraction of these injustices. I am grateful to the 
Department of the Interior for its work to address the wrongs 
many Native students experienced in boarding schools, after 
many were forcibly removed from their families, communities, 
languages, religions, and cultural beliefs.
    In 2021, Secretary Haaland announced the Federal Indian 
Boarding School Initiative, an effort to recognize the 
concerning legacy of Federal Indian boarding school policies, 
and to address the intergenerational impact.
    I am also pleased to see that the Department invested 
funding in the National Fund for Excellence in American Indian 
Education, which they had indicated had been inactive for 
decades.
    Haskell Indian Nations University was established from what 
once was an Indian boarding school, where Native children were 
forcibly assimilated for decades, an issue I am familiar with 
because I represent Oregon, where we have Chemawa Indian 
School. Haskell University can and should be a safe space for 
Native students to learn, while embracing and uplifting their 
culture. This is a noble goal and with support it is 
attainable.
    Unfortunately, the reality of Haskell University is a sharp 
contrast to this goal. All academic institutions are 
responsible for creating safe and supportive learning 
environments. In the unique case of Haskell University, the 
burden falls on the Department of the Interior and the Bureau 
of Indian Education to provide resources and guidance to 
facilitate a safe school environment.
    We have heard of instances on campus that have indicated 
failure after failure of the university and the bureau to 
provide the leadership, transparency, accountability, and 
management, despite reports of a hostile campus environment 
rife with academic fraud, nepotism, neglect, and tragically, in 
some cases, sexual misconduct and abuse.
    I want to emphasize, this is not a new issue. There have 
been reports of misconduct for years. Student survivors report 
sexual assault and say they were met with indifference and a 
lack of consideration for their privacy and their mental 
health. The Inspector General has confirmed accusations of 
nepotism and bullying, as well as cases of academic fraud.
    The sitting university president directed the editor of the 
Indian Leader, a student newspaper, to not contact any outside 
government agency or the police regarding university matters 
without first getting permission. The students deserve better, 
the faculty deserve better, and the community deserves better.
    Haskell University provides education to a population that 
has historically been underserved in higher education, and it 
must improve. The Bureau of Indian Education must hold Haskell 
University accountable for strict academic accountability and 
transparency standards. The Bureau must also be forthcoming 
with Congress about whether those standards are met for the 
health and well-being of Haskell's students.
    And finally, I want to emphasize accusations of misconduct 
have gone on for years. It may be tempting to try to point 
fingers at a single administration to pick where it all went 
wrong. But the reality is that the systemic issues plaguing 
Haskell University have happened for years under multiple 
administrations, both Democratic and Republican. Our task today 
should not be to engage in a partisan blame game, but instead 
commit ourselves to bettering the lives of students and faculty 
and the Haskell Indian Nation.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.

    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentlewoman.
    I am now going to introduce our witnesses for the first 
panel.
    First, we have the Honorable Bryan Newland, Assistant 
Secretary for Indian Affairs, U.S. Department of the Interior. 
And second, Mr. Matthew Elliott, Assistant Inspector General 
for Investigations, Office of the Inspector General, U.S. 
Department of the Interior.
    Let me remind the witnesses that under Committee Rules, you 
must limit your oral statements to 5 minutes. But your entire 
statement will be in the hearing record.
    To begin your testimony, just press the button and you will 
see the green light go on. When it hits yellow, you have to 
start summing it all up. And when it hits red, cut it short 
because we have lots of questions.
    I now recognize Mr. Newland for 5 minutes.

 STATEMENT OF THE HON. BRYAN NEWLAND, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR 
INDIAN AFFAIRS, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, WASHINGTON, DC

    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Ranking Members, and 
members of the Committee, [speaking Native American language]. 
My name is Bryan Newland. I have the privilege and honor of 
serving as the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs at the 
Department of the Interior, and I want to thank you for 
inviting me before these Committees today to discuss our 
important work at Haskell University.
    Haskell occupies a special place in Indian Country. It 
began as a boarding school designed to carry out the Federal 
Government's policy of forced assimilation of Indian children. 
It has since become a respected university that has educated 
Native students from across the country for generations.
    The community of Haskell Rascals really represents all of 
Indian Country. Haskell alumni can be found in most tribal 
communities, and nearly everyone in Indian Country knows 
Haskell, celebrates the achievements of its students, faculty, 
and staff. And their accomplishments make all of us proud.
    But as has been noted already, Haskell has had more than 
its share of challenges in recent decades. A lack of investment 
from the Federal Government has allowed facilities on campus to 
deteriorate and led to the closure of sports programs like 
football. High turnover in leadership at the Bureau of Indian 
Education and in Haskell's administration have made campus 
governance difficult and has fostered cliques amongst the 
staff. Federal employment laws designed for Federal agencies 
are not suited to running a university and present challenges. 
And there have been many other challenges as well.
    In 2022, I learned about allegations of sexual assaults 
against students by other students or young people in and 
around the Haskell community. I also learned about allegations 
that the Haskell athletic staff had inappropriately touched 
students. At the same time, there was a series of allegations 
and counter allegations involving student athletes, coaches, 
staff, and administrators. Most of those allegations related to 
workplace conduct and management of sports programs.
    Before I describe our response, I want to make two points 
very clear. Everyone who steps foot on Haskell's campus should 
feel safe and supported. And I expect every member of our staff 
to treat people with compassion and respect.
    We know all too well the disproportionate rates of violence 
that is committed against Native women and girls. And fear of 
that violence should not follow people to Haskell's campus.
    In addition, we want to hold members of Haskell staff to 
standards as high as any other institution of higher learning. 
And they should not be subject to bullying or harassment while 
doing their jobs.
    In response to these allegations, our team worked to 
respond quickly by referring some matters to the Office of the 
Inspector General. And we also sought independent 
investigations of these allegations and independent reviews of 
Haskell's student support policies and processes.
    Following those investigations, the BIE worked to help 
students and staff improve reporting and response to sexual 
assaults. In coordination with independent reviewers, Haskell 
designated an interim campus advocate coordinator in October 
2022. That position handles allegations and began revising the 
student code of conduct and other campus policies relating to 
student support. With respect to other allegations involving 
workplace conduct and sports programs, Haskell also took 
administrative and disciplinary action involving a number of 
employees and contractors.
    Since the start of my tenure, I have made improving 
Haskell's operations a priority. Early on in 2021, we began the 
process of elevating the position of the Haskell president to a 
senior executive service position. It has previously been a GS-
15, a university president. Our goal was to attract more 
talented candidates to lead Haskell and to promote stability in 
its leadership. We have also asked Congress to provide 
increased funding for Haskell and we have had some success in 
that over the last 3 years.
    I visited campus several times as Assistant Secretary. I 
have met with students, faculty, staff, and the college's board 
to learn more about their goals and their concerns. And I also 
meet weekly with BIE leadership, including the Haskell 
president, to stay connected in our work. While we have made 
improvements and increased their student enrollment, we have 
many challenges to address.
    With my limited time, Chairman, I just want to take this 
opportunity to speak to everyone in the Haskell community. 
Haskell is a place that we are proud of. And we are working 
every day to make everyone's experience on campus as safe and 
as positive as possible for everyone. I want it to be memorable 
for the reasons it should be when people come to Haskell, young 
leaders who learn and grow to prepare for a successful life. 
And I want students to receive a world class education and have 
access to the same experiences and resources as students on 
other campuses here in our country. And I want our faculty to 
be safe, successful, and united in supporting our students. And 
I am going to work with the Secretary and with this Committee 
and Congress every day to make sure that happens.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I look forward to answering your 
questions.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Newland follows:]
  Prepared Statement of Bryan Newland, Assistant Secretary for Indian 
                Affairs, U.S. Department of the Interior

    Chairpersons, Ranking Members, and Members of the Subcommittees,

    Thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the U.S. 
Department of the Interior (Department or DOI) regarding Haskell Indian 
Nations University (Haskell). My name is Bryan Newland, and I serve as 
the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs. I am here to discuss the 
measures we have taken to improve the safety and well-being of the 
students and staff at Haskell. I want to address at the onset that our 
staff may not have provided the clearest information regarding the 
matters at hand. However, know that the Department takes any allegation 
of misconduct of a sexual nature seriously and takes immediate 
appropriate actions to protect the safety and wellbeing of students.
    My goal today is to help provide clarity around the actions both 
the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) and Haskell took in relation to 
the BIE Human Resources (HR) Administrative Investigation Board (AIB) 
investigation into allegations of misconduct. I also wish to confirm 
that the BIE did not eliminate any findings or conclusions from the 
initial draft report submitted by the AIB in November 2022 when BIE HR 
finalized the January 2023 final report (Report). The BIE and Haskell 
have used the Report and other third-party expert recommendations to 
improve student safety-related staffing and support services, as well 
as policies and procedures at Haskell.
Haskell Background

    Haskell plays a unique role in Indian Country. When Haskell opened 
in 1884, it was known as the Indian Industrial Training School at 
Lawrence, KS and was among the first of the U.S. government's off-
reservation boarding schools for American Indian children. Based on the 
Carlisle School model in Pennsylvania, with its creed to ``Kill the 
Indian, Save the Man,'' Haskell was one of a network of boarding 
schools that worked to destroy Tribal cultures by enforcing Euro-
American standards of appearance, thought, and behavior. The cultural 
and moral injury inflicted by such institutions affected generations of 
Indigenous families and still reverberates today through historical, 
generational trauma and Tribal wealth depletion.
    As evidenced by the Secretary of the Interior's Federal Indian 
Boarding School Initiative, the Federal government established 
comprehensive policies through institutions like Haskell to assimilate 
Indian children. While our generations are still grappling with the 
historical traumas of this past, Tribal nations and Indian people are 
strong and have effected positive change to Federal policies and 
institutions as a result of that strength. In 1992, after a period of 
planning for the 21st Century, the National Haskell Board of Regents 
recommended a new name to reflect its vision for Haskell as a national 
center for Indian education, research, and cultural preservation. In 
1993, the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs approved the change, 
and Haskell became Haskell Indian Nations University.
    More recent generations of American Indian and Alaska Native 
families have been proudly sending their students to Haskell from all 
over the country for a quality and culturally inclusive education. 
Haskell is a place that provides an inter-Tribal cultural experience. 
Many of us have grandparents, parents, nieces, nephews, and cousins who 
currently attend or once attended Haskell. To be part of the ``Haskell 
Rascal'' family is something that is held in pride across many Tribal 
communities. It would be hard to find a Native person who does not have 
some tie or story about a relative who attended Haskell at some point. 
It is part of the fabric that makes up Indian Country. The Department 
is dedicated to making Haskell as strong and as safe an institution as 
possible to reflect the strength of our people and Tribal nations.
    As a cornerstone of higher education for American Indian and Alaska 
Native students, Haskell now serves approximately 1,000 students. 
Haskell offers a range of rigorous academic programs and provides a 
culturally rich and transformative educational experience. It is 
critically important to the Department, BIE, and Haskell leadership 
that we support Haskell in being recognized as one of the best 
institutions of higher learning in the country. From a personal 
standpoint, supporting BIE schools and Haskell is one of the top 
priorities I have as the Assistant Secretary. So, when allegations, 
such as those that arose at Haskell, come to our attention, I want your 
Committees to know we take them seriously and act.
Allegations Background

    In 2021, the BIE received a series of complaints from students and 
staff at Haskell. These complaints highlighted various concerns about 
the university environment, including allegations of misconduct and 
inappropriate behavior. Recognizing the seriousness of the allegations 
and maintaining a desire to responsibly address the issues raised, the 
BIE contracted with an independent third-party administrative 
investigator to gather evidence regarding these allegations. Consistent 
with DOI policy, BIE also contacted the DOI Office of Inspector General 
(OIG) to report additional allegations. When the OIG referred the 
matters back to BIE, BIE assembled an internal administrative 
investigative board (AIB) to conduct further investigation. 
Additionally, where appropriate, students were referred to local law 
enforcement to make criminal reports.
    As preventative interim measures to safeguard against misconduct of 
a sexual nature and to protect the integrity of investigations, Haskell 
issued no-contact orders while the matters were being investigated. 
Once the investigations were completed, BIE took appropriate 
administrative and formal disciplinary actions.
    Even though BIE investigated the allegations it received, the 
Bureau did not stop there. BIE continued to look for ways to better 
protect the safety and security of our students.
Initial Allegations (Late Fall and Early Winter 2021)

     Incident: In late 2021, the BIE received a series of 
            complaints from students and staff at Haskell. These 
            complaints highlighted various concerns about the 
            university environment, including allegations of misconduct 
            and inappropriate behavior. Between late fall and early 
            winter of 2021, the BIE received a total of 28 separate 
            allegations and cross-allegations of wrongdoing.

     Action: Each of the 28 allegations was promptly submitted 
            to the U.S. Postal Service's National Equal Employment 
            Opportunity Investigative Services Office (USPS NEEOISO) 
            for independent investigation to inform further action, as 
            needed. USPS NEEOISO has ongoing interagency agreements 
            with DOI, providing services such as Harassing Conduct 
            Investigations (HCIs) for DOI and all of its sub agencies, 
            including BIE.

     The USPS NEEOISO produced three separate investigative 
            reports, delivered between May and July 2022. I want to 
            emphasize the swift and thorough response to each 
            allegation. Contrary to inaccurate press or accusations 
            that these allegations went unaddressed for months, the 
            Department and Haskell leadership took immediate action to 
            investigate these concerns.

Sexual Harassment Allegation (December 2021)

     Incident: 27 of the 28 allegations provided to the USPS 
            NEEOISO in the late fall and early winter 2021 were non-
            sexual in nature. One complaint, however, was sexual in 
            nature. On December 18, 2021, a parent reported that a 
            Haskell staff member had inappropriately touched their 
            daughter at a basketball game. The student filed a written 
            statement on December 20, 2021.

     Action: On December 21, 2021, Haskell and BIE issued a no-
            contact order to the staff member pending further 
            investigation and submitted the allegation to USPS for 
            investigation. The USPS NEEOISO investigation was completed 
            by May 2, 2022. BIE HR determined that the May 2, 2022 
            report did not support further action.

Subsequent Allegations, Including Sexual Assaults (April-May 2022)

     Incident 1: On April 14, 2022, a student reported to a 
            Haskell employee an alleged sexual assault that occurred on 
            April 3-4, 2022. The student could not recall the location 
            where the alleged assault took place. The Haskell employee 
            contacted local law enforcement.

     Incident 2: On April 21, 2022, and again on April 26, 
            2022, a student reported to two Haskell employees a 
            separate alleged off-campus sexual assault that occurred on 
            April 11, 2022. One of the Haskell employees contacted 
            local law enforcement.

     Incident 3: On May 14, 2022, another student reported to a 
            Haskell employee a separate alleged off-campus sexual 
            assault that had occurred in April 2022. The Haskell 
            employee issued a no-contact order and recommended the 
            student to report the alleged off-campus sexual assault to 
            local law enforcement. The Haskell employee had a follow-up 
            meeting with this student on May 16, 2022, and learned the 
            student had not reported the incident to local law 
            enforcement. According to Haskell's policies at the time of 
            this incident, Haskell staff would only assist an adult 
            victim in contacting law enforcement if specifically 
            requested and provided permission by the alleged victim.

     Action: On Monday, June 13, 2022, members of the Haskell 
            community reached out directly to the BIE HR Officer 
            regarding new allegations of misconduct, including those 
            sexual in nature. On Tuesday, June 14, 2022, students 
            submitted a Personnel Bulletin (PB) 18-01 Complaint to BIE 
            HR. BIE HR assigned a team to review the allegations and 
            worked with the Department's Solicitor Office on next steps 
            by Friday June 17, 2022. The submitted PB 18-01 included 
            new allegations of ``physical and sexual abuse''. By 
            Wednesday June 22, 2022, BIE submitted the allegations to 
            the Department's OIG. OIG referred the complaints unrelated 
            to ``physical and sexual abuse'' allegations to BIE on 
            Wednesday July 6, 2022. Following the July 6, 2022 referral 
            by OIG, BIE organized the HR-led on-the-ground AIB on July 
            7, 2022 to arrive at Haskell by Sunday July 10, 2022 to 
            investigate the allegations. On July 25, 2022, OIG referred 
            the allegation back to BIE HR regarding ``physical and 
            sexual abuse'' contained in the PB 18-01 submitted by BIE 
            on June 14, 2022, to investigate. While the initial on-site 
            investigation began on July 10, 2022, the AIB continued 
            their investigation beyond that initial date. While the 
            initial on-site investigation began on July 10, 2022, the 
            AIB continued their investigation beyond that initial date.

Additional Allegations (Summer 2022)

     Incident: Upon arrival on campus, the AIB received 
            additional allegations of wrongdoing, including theft of 
            athletic equipment, nepotism, bullying behavior, conflicts 
            of interest in personnel decisions, and fabricating 
            grievances against contract employees.

     Action: These allegations and subsequent AIB conclusions 
            were included in the AIB Report. The BIE HR AIB provided an 
            initial draft of its report in November 2022 to the BIE HR 
            Officer for review and finalization to inform appropriate 
            action at Haskell. During this timeframe, HR made edits to 
            the draft in an effort to improve the report's clarity, 
            readability, and ensure completeness in its analysis and 
            conclusions. Importantly, the edits made during this time 
            period did not eliminate any findings or conclusions of the 
            AIB. The BIE HR Officer signed the AIB Report, dated 
            January 13, 2023. Based on the AIB conclusions, BIE 
            initiated administrative and formal disciplinary actions 
            against ten individuals, including supervisor counseling, 
            suspension, reassignment, and termination of contract. Two 
            additional staff members involved resigned from their 
            positions at Haskell prior to receiving formal disciplinary 
            actions.

Independent Stafford Review and Haskell Reforms

    To complement the BIE HR AIB, Haskell secured the services of D. 
Stafford & Associates (Stafford) in August 2022. Stafford is an 
independent consultation firm specializing in campus safety and 
security, sexual misconduct response and investigation, and post-
secondary institution law enforcement issues. Over the summer 2022, 
Stafford conducted a comprehensive review of Haskell's policies and 
procedures and provided its independent report to Haskell leadership on 
September 11, 2022 with recommendations to bolster student support 
services. Stafford reviewed Haskell's existing Sexual Misconduct, 
Student Rights, and Student Conduct policies and procedures. Stafford's 
independent report contained 13 recommendations for programmatic and 
policy improvements at Haskell. Stafford continues to provide ongoing 
guidance to Haskell regarding its recommendations and guidance 
implementation.

     Implementation of Stafford Recommendations: Pursuant to 
            these recommendations, Haskell has completed or is in the 
            process of completing the following reforms:

              Campus Advocate Coordinator: Hired a newly 
        established Campus Advocate Coordinator position, encumbered as 
        of May 20, 2024. This position is designed to address both 
        Stafford's recommendations regarding sexual misconduct 
        reporting and student support policies, as well as BIE HR AIB 
        conclusions regarding the role and expectations of the Haskell 
        employee managing student support services for the institution.

              New Policies: Drafted new Sexual Misconduct 
        Policies and Procedures and related documents needed for 
        implementation. These will be ready for the beginning of the 
        2024-25 Academic Year on August 26, 2024.

              Reporting Procedures: In consultation with 
        Stafford, Haskell developed new reporting procedures and forms 
        for intake.

              Student Code of Conduct: Developed a new Student 
        Code of Conduct and provided the Code to the Haskell Student 
        Government Association for review.

              Training Programs: Established a regular and 
        ongoing annual sexual assault awareness training in partnership 
        with Stafford, the Douglas County District Attorney's Office, 
        the Lawrence Police Department, the Willow Domestic Violence 
        Center, and the Sexual Trauma and Abuse Care Center. The first 
        of this regular joint annual training was held on November 29, 
        2023.

              Website Refresh: Initiated a website refresh and 
        hired a full-time iNet/Webmaster position tasked with 
        maintaining Haskell's web and social media sites. Once 
        finalized, Haskell's newly developed Sexual Misconduct Policies 
        and Procedures will be added to the website for the 2024-25 
        Academic Year.

              Student and Faculty Resources: BIE expanded 
        behavioral health services offering on-campus and virtual 
        mental health support, including group and individual therapy 
        and 24/7 crisis support.

Department Support for Haskell: To increase oversight and 
accountability at Haskell, the Department elevated the president 
position of the college from GS-15 to Senior Executive to increase 
competitiveness in filling the role with other postsecondary 
institutions. This new SES position was encumbered May 21, 2023. 
Additionally, the Department recently approved two Senior Executive 
positions within the BIE organization to provide guidance and oversight 
on performance and accountability as well as post-secondary education 
functions. This builds on the BIE reform initiated in 2014 and 
continued in subsequent administrations. These leaders will increase 
support for Haskell, BIE's Southwestern Indian Polytechnic Institute in 
New Mexico, and Tribal Colleges and Universities around the country, as 
well as provide oversight to BIE's scholarship program.

Allegations and Investigations Timeline
    To provide a clearer picture, I will detail the timeline and 
responses to each major set of allegations:
Fall and Winter 2021 Initial Allegations

     Late Fall/Early Winter 2021: BIE received 28 allegations.

     December 2021: All allegations were submitted to USPS 
            NEEOISO for investigation.

     May-July 2022: USPS NEEOISO delivered three separate 
            investigative reports.

December 2021 Sexual Harassment Allegation

     December 18, 2021: Parent reported the incident.

     December 20, 2021: Student filed a written statement.

     December 21, 2021: Haskell and BIE issued a no-contact 
            order and submitted the allegation to USPS NEEOISO.

     May 2, 2022: USPS completed the investigation and provided 
            the report to BIE HR with no conclusive findings or 
            recommendations. BIE HR determined that the May 2, 2022 
            report did not support further action.

April-May 2022 Sexual Assault Allegations

     April 14, 2022: First assault reported to Haskell staff.

     April 21 & 26, 2022: Second assault reported to Haskell 
            staff.

     May 14, 2022: Third assault reported to Haskell staff.

     June 13, 2022: BIE HR made aware of new allegations of 
            misconduct, including those sexual in nature.

     June 14, 2022: Members of the Haskell community submit a 
            Personnel Bulletin 18-01 complaint, and BIE HR team 
            assigned and prepared for submission to OIG.

     June 17, 2022: Legal advice sought from Solicitor's 
            Office.

     June 22, 2022: Allegations submitted to OIG.

     July 6, 2022: OIG referred complaints unrelated to 
            ``physical and sexual abuse'' allegations back to BIE.

     July 7, 2022: BIA HR initiated an AIB investigation on-
            site at Haskell.

     July 10, 2022: BIE HR AIB team arrived on-site at Haskell.

     July 25, 2022: OIG referred back to BIE HR the allegations 
            related to ``physical and sexual abuse'' contained in the 
            PB 18-01 submitted on June 14, 2022 for investigation.

Summer 2022 Additional Allegations and Independent Review

     Summer-Fall 2022: BIE HR AIB team investigates 16 new 
            allegations, including Haskell's response to the three 
            allegations of off-campus sexual assault.

     Summer 2022: D. Stafford and Associates conduct 
            comprehensive policy review and deliver a final report with 
            recommendations.

     September 11, 2022: D. Stafford and Associates provides 
            its recommendations to Haskell.

     November 7, 2022: BIE HR AIB provides draft AIB report to 
            the BIE HR Officer for finalization.

     January 13, 2023: BIE HR Officer signs the AIB report to 
            inform appropriate action at Haskell.

Other Reports, Reforms and Improvements

2018 OIG Investigations

    In a pair of 2018 reports, the OIG found that Haskell officials did 
not consistently follow Haskell's guidelines for handling complaints of 
misconduct and that Haskell's administration inaccurately reported 
crime statistics in 2014 and 2015. OIG also found that Haskell 
employees felt bullied and intimidated by the Haskell President at the 
time, finding that the President's presence in a meeting influenced a 
family member's appointment to a high-level position. OIG did not find 
evidence that the President at the time showed favoritism or that 
computers were purchased improperly as originally alleged.
    However, during the course of OIG's investigation, OIG learned of 
an allegation that a Haskell instructor sexually assaulted a student. 
OIG referred the allegation to the Lawrence Police Department. 
Additionally, OIG found that employees of the Haskell Foundation 
(Foundation), a nonprofit corporation, utilized office space on the 
Haskell campus and managed the proceeds of grants to Haskell, but that 
Haskell and the Foundation had no written agreement governing their 
relationship, which created a significant risk for potential legal 
violations.
    In addition to responding swiftly to allegations, BIE and Haskell 
have taken significant steps to reform its policies and procedures, 
increase capacity for oversight, and use the findings and 
recommendations for improvement to improve student and campus safety.
Conclusion

    I appreciate the Committees' time to highlight the Department's 
work and hear your concerns about this important issue. While imperfect 
at communicating the work completed, this Administration's efforts are 
improving the safety and well-being of students and staff at Haskell. 
We are also making long-term organizational improvements at the BIE and 
Haskell, so Haskell can compete with other colleges and live up to its 
storied legacy. Haskell Indian Nations University and all of our 
students across the country have been one of my top priorities. We 
recognize the courage of our students and staff who have come forward 
with their experiences, and we are committed to improving our 
shortcomings to create a safe and supportive environment that prepares 
our students to become the leaders Tribal nations deserve.
    On May 13, 2022, I met with students at Haskell alongside the BIE 
Director. That audience was one of the toughest crowds for which I 
presented and heard during my tenure because our Haskell students are 
so smart. Our students know what they deserve and challenged us to do 
better. We are dedicated to doing better. As Haskell finalizes its 
policies and procedures before the upcoming academic year, I plan to 
meet with Haskell students again to receive input and speak to them 
directly as a follow-up to my prior engagement. I also want to 
acknowledge the presence of members of the Haskell community today, 
including students past and present. For those that were not treated 
appropriately, I extend my deepest empathy and assure them that their 
safety and well-being are paramount. We are committed to ensuring that 
their voices are heard and that their concerns are addressed with the 
utmost seriousness and sensitivity.
    The U.S. Department of the Interior, in collaboration with BIE and 
Haskell leadership, is dedicated to addressing the concerns and 
improving the safety of those both on and off campus to our upmost 
ability. We have taken swift and decisive actions in response to 
allegations and continue to implement reforms to foster a safe and 
supportive environment at Haskell. Thank you for your attention to 
these critical issues. I am prepared to answer any questions you may 
have.

                                 ______
                                 

Questions Submitted for the Record to the Hon. Bryan Newland, Assistant 
        Secretary for Indian Affairs, Department of the Interior

The Honorable Bryan Newland did not submit responses to the Committee 
by the appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

              Questions Submitted by Representative Gosar

    Question 1. Why did the Bureau of Indian Education refuse to 
release the 2023 Haskell Indian Nations University--Administrative 
Investigation Report (AIB Report), despite BIE investigators agreement 
with Haskell students that the AIB report would be publicly released at 
the culmination of the investigation? Please provide a detailed account 
of the decision by BIE to not publicly release the AIB Report, and to 
resist FOIA requests for the release of the AIB Report.

    Question 2. When BIE was legally compelled to release the AIB 
Report, instead, they initially released a totally different report--
the wrong report. How did this happen? The request could not have been 
clearer.

    Question 3. What specific changes have been made in response to the 
findings in the AIB Report regarding the handling of sexual assault 
cases at the University? Please list each one.

    3a) Are you now confident that established procedures for handling 
sexual assault incidents are being followed at the University, as 
identified in the AIB Report?

    Question 4. During your visits to Haskell Indian Nations 
University, did you meet with any of the victims of sexual assault or 
other potential crimes? If not, why not?

    Question 5. On July 18, 2024, the Lawrence Journal Reported that 
Lester Randall--a member of the Haskell University Board of Regents--
was indicted on 4 counts of assault.

    5a) Was a background check conducted for Mr. Randall? And if so, 
were there no red flags?

    5b) Do you know Lester Randall? If so, please describe your 
interactions with Mr. Randall.

    5c) How will you ensure that the Board of Regents conducts regular 
background checks, so this does not happen again?

    Question 6. As you may know, Dr. Graham sought to fix dysfunction 
at Haskell University during his tenure, however his time at the 
University was cut short before he could finish the job.

    6a) If you had no involvement in the termination of Dr. Graham, 
when did you first learn about it?

    6b) Were you informed that, in 2024, the Office of Special Counsel 
concluded that Dr. Graham was retaliated against by BIE and HINU?

    Question 7. Dr. Graham's supervisor was BIE Director Dearman. Were 
you aware that Dearman did not sign the termination letter, but Tamarah 
Pfeiffer, then BIE Chief Academic Officer and not in Graham's Chain-of-
Command, signed the termination letter?

    7a) Is it standard protocol at BIE for someone not in a Chain-of-
Command to order a termination?

    Question 8. The BIE May 7, 2021, BIE Termination letter for Dr. 
Graham states ``the trial period is intended to give an Agency an 
opportunity to assess an employee's overall fitness and qualifications 
for continued employment.''

    8a) Was such an assessment--in this instance a Federal Annual 
Evaluation--conducted by Director Dearman on December 8, 2020?

    8b) When were you briefed and/or received a report or copy of the 
Graham assessment?

    8c) What superseding events or circumstances occurred that 
nullified BIE's ``Exceeds Expectations'' overall fitness determination 
between December 8, 2020 and May 7, 2021?

    Question 9. In your testimony, you stated, more than once, that 
student letters to you submitting complaints and seeking relief did not 
reach you because the students used the wrong email address.

    9a) When did you learn that emails were sent, but not received?

    9b) When you learned that emails were not received, what did you do 
about it?

    Question 10. When Dr. Graham learned that donated funds were not 
accounted for, $500,000 contracts were mismanaged and more than 350 
counts of alleged payroll fraud (among other financial irregularities) 
he reported each situation to Director Dearman and HR Director 
Shamblin. Audits and investigations were recommended and then 
initiated. There is no public record of the disposition of any of these 
audits and/or investigations.

    10a) Were these audits and/or investigations completed?

    10b) If not completed, who ordered that these audits and/or 
investigations be halted, stopped or otherwise ignored?

    10c) Did BIE report any of these matters to Congress? If so, when?

              Questions Submitted by Representative Owens

    Question 1. In a sworn statement a Haskell Indian Nations 
University (HINU) faculty member described a complaint made by two 
female interns from the University of Kansas against an employee for 
engaging in inappropriate conduct [Exhibit A]. HINU conducted a joint 
investigation with the Kansas law school. Further in the statement, the 
faculty member went on to describe the level of disciplinary action 
taken as ``maybe five-day suspension because he (the alleged predatory 
Haskell employee) had gotten a reprimand letter in the past.''

    1a) Why was this employee allowed to continue working at Haskell?

    1b) What actions did the Department of the Interior (DOI) and the 
Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) take after receiving the AIB Report?

    1c) Provide for the Committees documentation of the actions taken 
after you received the AIB Report.

    Question 2. According to the Haskell student handbook, ``Pending 
final outcome . . . Haskell will take steps to protect the complainant 
from any further harassment or retaliation.'' Sworn statements have 
given us shocking insight into how your university protects 
complainants. Your university allowed a female student, accused of 
drugging and assaulting four individuals on four separate occasions, to 
continue living in the same dorm with her alleged victims.

    2a) What steps were taken, per the student handbook, to protect the 
complainants in this case?

    Question 3. How does HINU ensure that reports of sexual assault are 
properly investigated and that victims receive adequate support?

    Question 4. In a sworn statement, a student athlete spoke about a 
coach that gropes and inappropriately stares at students [Exhibit B]. 
When she voiced her concerns an older coach explained ``how it is, it 
is normal for [the predatory coach] to stare at girls.'' What has been 
done in response to this statement to eliminate this predatory 
behavior?

    4a) Is the coach who stated that ``it's normal for a coach to stare 
at girls'' still employed by HINU or the Department of Interior?

    4b) Is the coach who ``gropes and inappropriately stares at 
students'' still employed by HINU or the DOI?

    Question 5. Your testimony states, ``The BIE and Haskell have used 
the Report and other third-party expert recommendations to improve 
student safety-related staffing and support services, as well as 
policies and procedures at Haskell.'' (page 1) Who were the third 
parities and what were their recommendations?

    Question 6. What is the DOI policy you are referring do when you 
state in your testimony, ``Consistent with DOI policy, BIE also 
contacted the DOI Office of Inspector General (OIG) to report 
additional allegations.'' (page 2)

    Your testimony states, ``Additionally, where appropriate, students 
were referred to local law enforcement to make criminal reports.'' 
Please provide us with the number of referrals made to law enforcement 
and for what incidents the referrals were made.

    Question 7. Your testimony states, ``As preventative interim 
measures to safeguard against misconduct of a sexual nature and to 
protect the integrity of investigations, Haskell issued no-contact 
orders while the matters were being investigated.'' (page 2)

    7a) Provide the no-contact orders mentioned above and the emails 
transmitting the no-contact orders.

    Question 8. Your testimony states, ``Once the investigations were 
completed, BIE took appropriate administrative and formal disciplinary 
actions.'' (page 2) What were those administrative and disciplinary 
actions?

    Question 9. Your testimony states, ``BIE continued to look for ways 
to better protect the safety and security of our students.'' (page 3). 
Please provide a further explanation of the specific actions BIE took 
to ``better protect the safety and security of our students?''

    Question 10. Your testimony states, ``Each of the 28 allegations 
was promptly submitted to the U.S. Postal Service's National Equal 
Employment Opportunity Investigative Services Office (USPS NEEOISO) for 
independent investigation to inform further action, as needed. (page 3)

    10a) Who made the decision to report the allegations to the USPS 
NEEOISO?

    10b) Why were the allegations reported to the UPS NEEOISO?

    10c) Provide the transmittal communications used to submit each of 
the 28 allegations to the USPS NEEOISO.

    10d) List all BIE related investigations that were reported to the 
USPS NEEOISO from 2020 to the present.

                                 ______
                                 

    Dr. Gosar. Thank you, Mr. Newland.
    I now recognize Mr. Elliott for his 5 minutes.

 STATEMENT OF MATTHEW ELLIOTT, ASSISTANT INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR 
     INVESTIGATIONS, OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, U.S. 
           DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, WASHINGTON, DC

    Mr. Elliott. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Members, and members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear 
before you today. I am pleased to stand in as the designee for 
Inspector General Greenblatt, who is testifying this afternoon 
before the House Oversight Committee.
    Every day, DOI employees and private citizens reach out to 
our complaint hotline to share information about potential 
fraud, waste, abuse, misconduct, or mismanagement. The OIG also 
receives complaints directly from department officials. Based 
on the information submitted, the OIG evaluates the complaints 
and can open a criminal, civil, or administrative 
investigation, conduct an audit, inspection, evaluation, or 
review, refer the complaint to the appropriate DOI bureau or 
office, or refer the complaint to another Federal or state law 
enforcement agency, or electronically file the information for 
future reference.
    Our office has a proven track record of assessing 
complaints, opening investigations, and issuing public-facing 
reports as appropriate. The 92 employees that I lead in our 
Office of Investigations remain responsive and capable of 
investigating a full range of alleged misconduct.
    Relevant to the discussion here today, between 2018 and the 
present, we received 68 complaints related to issues at 
Haskell. We opened 5 investigations, initiated 1 review, 
referred 32 of the complaints to the Bureau of Indian 
Education, and referred 1 complaint to the Assistant Secretary 
of Indian Affairs.
    The remaining 29 complaints were electronically filed for 
information, often because they were duplicative or lacked 
specificity or actionable information.
    Three of the five investigations that we opened during this 
time period involved allegations of misconduct by Haskell 
employees not related to sexual harassment or misconduct. In 
each of those cases, we did not substantiate the allegations.
    The fourth investigation involved allegations that Haskell 
employees covered up students' complaints of sexual misconduct. 
During the course of that investigation, we learned of BIA's 
own investigative report into these allegations. Therefore, we 
closed our investigation into those matters in August 2023.
    The fifth investigation stemmed from 13 complaints 
regarding allegations of mismanagement by Haskell's senior 
administration and president, focused primarily on the 
administration's handling of misconduct complaints. In 
addition, we investigated allegations that the president 
bullied employees, committed nepotism, and demonstrated 
favoritism. We also investigated allegations that the 
administration misused Title III funds.
    During the course of our investigation, we received an 
allegation that a Haskell instructor sexually assaulted a 
student off campus. Because local law enforcement had primary 
jurisdiction, we immediately referred that matter to the 
Lawrence Police Department and offered our assistance.
    At the conclusion of our investigation, we transmitted our 
findings to the Directors of BIE and BIA and publicly issued an 
investigative report in November 2018. In that report, we found 
that university officials did not consistently follow Haskell's 
guidelines for handling complaints of misconduct, and that 
Haskell's administration inaccurately reported crime statistics 
in 2014 and 2015. We also found that Haskell employees felt 
bullied and intimidated by the Haskell president, and we found 
that the president's presence in a meeting influenced a family 
member's appointment to a high-level position. We did not, 
however, find evidence of favoritism or improper use of funds.
    Because of the history of complaints related to mishandling 
allegations of sexual assault and the finds from our 2018 
report, in 2022, I directed OIG's Special Investigations and 
Reviews to initiate a review to determine whether BIE-operated 
post-secondary institutions were appropriately following laws 
and policies relating to complaints of sexual harassment and 
misconduct. This review is currently ongoing. We look forward 
to providing our report to Congress and the public when it is 
complete.
    Thank you for your time, and I look forward to answering 
your questions.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Elliott follows:]
Prepared Statement of Matthew Elliott, Assistant Inspector General for 
            Investigations, U.S. Department of the Interior

    Chairman Gosar, Chairman Owens, Ranking Member Stansbury, Ranking 
Member Wilson, and Members of the Subcommittees:
    Thank you for the opportunity to discuss the Department of the 
Interior (DOI) Office of Inspector General's (OIG) work regarding 
Haskell Indian Nations University (Haskell). The Inspector General Act 
of 1978, as amended, established a unique relationship between IGs and 
Congress, requiring IGs to report both to the head of their respective 
agencies and to Congress. DOI OIG's leadership and employees take this 
obligation seriously, and we appreciate your continued interest in and 
support for our fair, independent, and objective oversight.
Background
DOI OIG's Mission and Operations

    DOI OIG's mission is to provide independent oversight to promote 
accountability, integrity, economy, efficiency, and effectiveness 
within the DOI. Our work can be grouped into two general categories: 
(1) investigations on the one hand, and (2) audits, inspections, and 
evaluations on the other. The OIG's less than 300 employees oversee the 
programs and operations of the DOI, which has more than 70,000 
employees, 11 Bureaus, Offices, and a range of diverse programs, 
including roughly $10 billion in grants and contracts, $20 billion in 
natural resource revenues, Federal trust responsibilities to 574 
federally recognized Indian Tribes and Alaska Native villages, 
stewardship of 20 percent of the Nation's land, and management of 
lands, subsurface rights, and offshore areas that produce approximately 
17 percent of the Nation's energy.
    Our Office of Investigations investigates allegations of criminal, 
civil, and administrative misconduct involving DOI employees, 
contractors, grantees, and programs. These investigations can result in 
criminal prosecutions, fines, civil monetary penalties, administrative 
sanctions, and personnel actions. DOI OIG investigators have statutory 
law enforcement authority, including the power to make arrests, execute 
warrants, and carry firearms. When an investigation is complete, 
investigators prepare a Report of Investigation (ROI) detailing our 
findings. If there is evidence of criminal wrongdoing, the 
investigators work with Federal or state prosecutors as appropriate. If 
an investigation shows evidence of administrative wrongdoing on the 
part of a DOI employee, the ROI is presented to the Department, which 
will take whatever action it deems appropriate. In these cases, the OIG 
does not recommend discipline or other action to the Department.
    Our Office of Audits, Inspections, and Evaluations (AIE) conducts 
independent reviews that measure DOI programs and operations against 
best practices and objective criteria to determine efficiency and 
effectiveness. They also audit contracts, examine financial statements, 
and conduct cyber security audits, to name a few examples. AIE's work 
results in actionable recommendations to the Department that promote 
positive change in the DOI.
DOI OIG's Complaint Hotline

    Every day, DOI employees and private citizens reach out to our 
complaint hotline to share information about potential fraud, waste, 
abuse, misconduct, or mismanagement. The OIG also receives complaint 
referrals directly from Department officials outside of our hotline. 
Based on the information submitted, the OIG evaluates the complaints 
and could open a criminal, civil, or administrative investigation; 
conduct an audit, inspection, evaluation, or review; refer the 
complaint to the appropriate DOI Bureau or Office; refer the complaint 
to another Federal or state law enforcement agency; or electronically 
file the information for future reference.
    Our hotline is staffed by trained professionals who review every 
complaint we receive and determine what action the OIG will take. Given 
our mission, jurisdiction, budgetary resources, and unique position in 
the Department, we typically investigate criminal matters such as 
contract and grant fraud, energy royalties fraud, embezzlement, and 
financial conflicts of interest. We also investigate administrative 
misconduct by DOI employees, such as ethics violations, whistleblower 
retaliation, and sexual harassment by senior-level officials. We 
generally don't investigate allegations involving traditional 
management or workplace problems or individual allegations of 
discrimination. Typically, we refer those complaints to the Department 
for its consideration and action.
    In Fiscal Year 2023, we received 886 DOI-related complaints and 
opened 60 investigations; that is, 6.7 percent of the DOI complaints 
that we received were converted to OIG investigations. Of the 886 
complaints that we received, 418, or 47 percent, were referred to the 
appropriate DOI Bureau or Office for action.
    Between 2018 and the present, we received 68 complaints related to 
issues at Haskell. We opened 5 investigations, initiated 1 review, 
referred 32 of the complaints to the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE), 
and 1 complaint to the Assistant Secretary of Indian Affairs. Twenty-
nine of these complaints were electronically filed for information.
Prior DOI OIG Investigations Involving Haskell
DOI OIG's November 2018 Investigative Report of Misconduct Allegations 
        at Haskell

    After receiving complaints from Haskell students, faculty, and 
personnel alleging mismanagement by Haskell's senior administration and 
President, we opened an investigation that focused primarily on the 
administration's handling of misconduct complaints. In addition, we 
investigated allegations that the President bullied employees, 
committed nepotism, and demonstrated favoritism. We also investigated 
allegations that the administration misused Title III funds.
    During the course of our investigation, we received an allegation 
that a Haskell instructor sexually assaulted a student off campus. 
Because local law enforcement had primary jurisdiction, we immediately 
referred the matter to the Lawrence Police Department.
    At the conclusion of our investigation, we transmitted our findings 
to the Directors of BIE and the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and 
publicly issued an investigative report in November 2018.\1\ In that 
report, we found that university officials did not consistently follow 
Haskell's guidelines for handling complaints of misconduct and that 
Haskell's administration inaccurately reported crime statistics in 2014 
and 2015. We also found that Haskell employees felt bullied and 
intimidated by the Haskell President, and we found that the President's 
presence in a meeting influenced a family member's appointment to a 
high-level position; however, we did not find evidence of favoritism or 
improper use of funds.
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DOI OIG's October 2018 Management Advisory Regarding Absence of Clear 
        Boundaries Between Haskell Indian Nations University and 
        Nonprofit Haskell Foundation

    Our 2018 investigation yielded additional findings about 
inappropriate boundaries between Haskell University and the Haskell 
Foundation, a non-profit organization with the stated mission of 
seeking, encouraging, receiving, and managing gifts, grants, and 
bequests for the benefit of the university. We issued a management 
advisory to the Director of BIE, alerting him to the potential of legal 
violations arising from the lack of clear boundaries between Haskell 
and the non-profit.
Unsubstantiated Allegations

    In 2021 and 2022, we investigated additional allegations regarding 
misconduct by Haskell employees, not related to sexual harassment or 
misconduct. None of these allegations were substantiated.
Complaints to OIG Related to Haskell Indian Nations University in 2022 
        and 2023

    Partly at issue today are allegations that were referred to the OIG 
by BIE in June 2022. These wide-ranging allegations included an array 
of complaints including theft of Federal property, intimidation of 
student athletes, bullying, violation of students' due process, 
inappropriate touching of student athletes by a coach, and others.
    Consistent with our office's usual process and practice, we closely 
reviewed the allegations and vetted them, including by reaching out to 
the five individuals whose contact information was provided, eventually 
reaching one. We interviewed that individual by phone on June 30, 2022. 
Based on the initial complaint and the additional information provided 
in our interview, we determined that the allegations would be best 
addressed by the BIE. We referred the allegations to BIE on July 6, 
2022, and requested a response in 90 days. We received the BIE response 
on January 25, 2024.
    Subsequently, in April 2023, the OIG received an anonymous hotline 
complaint, alleging that employees at Haskell covered up students' 
complaints of sexual misconduct. After reviewing this anonymous 
complaint, our office opened an investigation. During the course of our 
investigation, in June 2023, we learned of BIE's investigative report 
addressing the allegations that predicated OIG's investigation; 
therefore, we closed our investigation in August 2023.
OIG's Ongoing Review

    Because of the history of complaints related to mishandling of 
sexual assaults and the findings from our 2018 ROI, in 2022, I directed 
OIG's Special Investigations and Reviews \2\ to initiate a review to 
determine whether BIE-operated postsecondary institutions were 
appropriately following laws and policies related to complaints of 
sexual harassment and misconduct. Originally focused solely on the 
Southwestern Indian Polytechnic Institute (SIPI), we expanded the scope 
of our review to include Haskell, given the history of complaints that 
our office had received.
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    \2\ The Special Investigations and Review Division (SIR) is a 
division in the Office of Investigation staffed by attorneys and 
investigators. SIR conducts programmatic reviews as well as certain 
types of investigations, often focused on senior level DOI officials.
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    This review is currently ongoing. We look forward to providing our 
report to Congress and the public when it is complete.
DOI OIG's Evaluation of the DOI's Efforts to Address Sexual Harassment 
        Across the Department

    This is not the first time that our office has addressed sexual 
harassment and misconduct at the DOI. In September 2014, we received a 
complaint that led to a series of investigations that uncovered a long-
term pattern of sexual harassment and a hostile work environment in the 
NPS' Grand Canyon National Park River District. The Grand Canyon 
investigation led to others. In total, the OIG opened over 20 sexual 
harassment investigations between 2016 and 2019. As a result, the OIG 
confirmed allegations of sexual harassment in other NPS worksites; the 
OIG also confirmed similar allegations of both sexual harassment and 
mishandled sexual harassment investigations within BIA.\3\
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    \3\ Specifically, in May 2017, we confirmed that a BIA employee 
harassed employees and tribal members by sending unwanted (and often 
sexually explicit) texts and Facebook messages. Summary: BIA Employee 
Sent Unwanted, Sexually Explicit Messages, available at https://
www.doioig.gov/reports/investigation/bia-employee-sent-unwanted-
sexually-explicit-messages-0. In September 2017, we found that a Human 
Resources official incorrectly advised a BIA manager that an employee 
accused of sexual harassment could not be disciplined because the 
complaints were not U.S. Government employees and the harassment did 
not appear to be connected in the workplace. Summary: Insufficient 
Actions by BIA Management and Human Resources Officials in Response to 
Sexual Harassment Reports, available at https://www.doioig.gov/reports/
investigation/insufficient-actions-bia-management-and-human-resource-
officials-response-0.
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    On the heels of these investigations, in December 2017, the OIG 
initiated an evaluation of the DOI's steps to address sexual harassment 
at the Department. Our work culminated in a report, issued in July 
2019: Opportunities Exist To Improve the U.S. Department of the 
Interior's Efforts To Address Sexual Harassment.\4\ We found that 
although the Department had taken steps to address and prevent sexual 
harassment, opportunities existed to improve sexual harassment 
investigations. Specifically, (1) ROIs did not always contain the 
necessary information for decisionmakers and advisors to make 
comprehensive decisions about potential corrective action related to 
sexual harassment, (2) the DOI and its bureaus did not track the 
timeliness of investigations in a consistent manner, and (3) 
investigation costs may have prevented employees from reporting an 
incident. We also found that anti-sexual harassment training and DOI-
wide misconduct tracking could be improved. We made 11 recommendations 
to help the DOI prevent and address sexual harassment. At this time, 
all recommendations from our 2019 report have been resolved and 
implemented.
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    \4\ Available at doioig.gov/sites/default/files/2021-migration/
FinalEvaluationE_DOISexual Harassment_Public.pdf.
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Conclusion

    In October 2019, Inspector General Mark Lee Greenblatt testified at 
a House Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations 
hearing entitled, ``Sexual Harassment at the Department of the 
Interior.'' His testimony covered the OIG's investigations of specific 
misconduct and our broader evaluation about the steps DOI had taken to 
address sexual harassment at the Department. During that hearing, IG 
Greenblatt committed that the OIG would continue to aid the Department 
in its efforts to foster a safe environment free of sexual harassment 
and assault. Since that time, we have continued to receive, evaluate, 
and act upon all incoming complaints, including those that implicate 
sexual misconduct. We have a proven track record of opening 
investigations and issuing public-facing reports as appropriate, and we 
remain responsive and capable of investigating a full range of alleged 
misconduct. Our currently ongoing review, discussed previously today, 
is another important part of the OIG's efforts in this regard.
    Thank you for your time, and I look forward to answering your 
questions.

                                 ______
                                 

    Questions Submitted for the Record to Matthew Elliott, Assistant
 Inspector General for Investigations, Office of the Inspector General,
                    U.S. Department of the Interior

              Questions Submitted by Representative Gosar

    Question 1. What is the role of the Office of the Inspector General 
regarding oversight of Haskell University?

    Answer. The Office of Inspector General (OIG) provides independent 
oversight to promote accountability, integrity, economy, efficiency, 
and effectiveness within the bureaus and offices of the U.S. Department 
of the Interior (DOI), including the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE). 
BIE funds and manages 183 elementary and secondary schools; in 
addition, Haskell Indian Nation University (HINU) is one of two post-
secondary schools directly operated by BIE. Our statutory oversight 
authority therefore extends to HINU.

    Question 2. Why did the OIG decline to review the wrongful 
termination of Mr. Mayes?

    Answer. It was within BIE's discretion to terminate Mr. Mayes's 
contract. Additionally, there are no laws, regulations, rules, or 
policies that prohibited BIE from terminating Mr. Mayes contract 
because of the allegations he reported to our office and BIE 
leadership. As a contractor, Mr. Mayes was not covered by the 
protections codified in the Whistleblower Protection Act or Section 828 
of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 and 
therefore falls outside of available protections. Mr. Mayes, however, 
did have contract and civil remedies he could have pursued. It is also 
our understanding that Mr. Mayes is once again a coach at HINU.

    Question 3. Why did the OIG decline to investigate the claims 
brought forth by students, that kicked off the 2022 investigation?

    Answer. The OIG has oversight responsibility for DOI's 11 bureaus 
and offices, and we receive approximately 2,000 contacts annually to 
our hotline. We must triage those contacts to determine how to maximize 
the impact of the approximately 90 OIG employees dedicated to our 
investigative mission. Like most investigative entities, we simply do 
not have the capacity to investigate every complaint that is made 
through our hotline and, consistent with the best practices of the 
Inspector General community, we routinely refer administrative 
complaints and allegations of non-criminal misconduct to the 
responsible bureaus or offices. If we identify a pattern or trend of 
complaints that, taken in the aggregate, indicate an investigable 
matter, we may also decide to open an investigation. For example, we 
initiated the OIG's 2018 investigation that I discussed during my 
testimony \1\ due to a pattern of complaints received by our office. 
Additionally, we have a strong record across our broad portfolio of 
exploring sexual misconduct issues, which Inspector General Greenblatt 
discussed at a hearing before the House Committee on Natural Resources 
on October 30, 2019.
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    \1\ Investigation of Misconduct Allegations at Haskell Indian 
Nations University/Office of Inspector General, U.S. Department of the 
Interior (doioig.gov)
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    In 2022, HINU students reported allegations of harassment, 
nepotism, contract mismanagement, and improper hiring practices. We 
carefully reviewed and vetted the allegations. We determined that the 
theft allegations were speculative and that the sexual assault 
allegations were off campus and therefore outside of our jurisdiction. 
Based on the nature of the remaining allegations, the limited number of 
field agents we have for our broad portfolio, and our case load at the 
time, we referred them to the BIE or the Assistant Secretary for Indian 
Affairs. The claim that HINU mismanaged allegations of sexual assault 
is included in the scope of an ongoing review.

    Question 4. What misconduct has OIG identified in the past as 
taking place at Haskell Indian Nations University?

    Answer. In the past 10 years, we have conducted five investigations 
of potential misconduct and mismanagement at HINU. The allegations in 
three investigations were not substantiated and we closed one 
investigation after learning the allegations had already been addressed 
by BIE. We reported the results of our fifth investigation in our 
November 2018 report of investigation, which can be found on our 
website at this link: Investigation of Misconduct Allegations at 
Haskell Indian Nations University (doioig.gov).
    While not related to specific misconduct, we also issued a 
management advisory in 2018 regarding the absence of clear boundaries 
between HINU and the nonprofit Haskell Foundation, which is available 
here: Management Advisory--Investigation Reveals Absence of Clear 
Boundaries Between Bureau of Indian Education Post-Secondary 
Educational Institution and Nonprofit Corporation, Case No. OI-SD-17-
0074-I (doioig.gov).

    4a) What recommendations have been put forward to Haskell Indian 
Nations University and the Bureau of Indian Education to resolve these 
issues?

    Answer. As is typical with reports of investigation (ROIs) in the 
inspector general community, we did not provide recommendations in our 
2018 ROI on HINU. Rather, like all of our ROIs, we provided it to the 
Department for any action it deemed appropriate.

    In our 2018 management advisory, we made two recommendations that 
we consider implemented and closed:

  1.  Consult with the Office of the Solicitor to establish the scope 
            of the Foundation's authorized activities, including its 
            authorization to occupy Federal facilities, the proper 
            roles and responsibilities of Foundation employees 
            regarding grants, and the payment of any compensation to 
            the Foundation.

  2.  Memorialize the determination in a written partnership agreement 
            with the Foundation as provided in Department Policy 301 DM 
            5. Signed MOU provided through BIE/Haskell.

    4b) To your knowledge, what steps has Haskell Indian Nations 
University taken to address issues identified by the OIG previously?

    Answer. In response to our 2018 report, BIE reported to the OIG 
that it: (1) provided all Haskell staff with Equal Employment 
Opportunity and workplace harassment training; (2) reassigned one 
Haskell employee; and (3) took disciplinary action against another 
Haskell employee. The action taken against the employees and the 
employees' identity is protected by the Privacy Act and cannot be 
disclosed publicly.
    Separate from issues identified in our 2018 ROI, in the past 10 
years, the OIG referred eight complaints to BIE that required a 
response. The referred allegations and BIE's responses are summarized 
in the chart below.


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 Allegation referred by OIG to BIE               BIE response
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Allegations of nepotism against the  In response, BIE created a new
 HINU President                       policy requiring an additional
                                      level of supervision when hiring a
                                      Vice President of Academic
                                      Affairs.
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Allegations of mismanagement and     BIE investigated and did not
 waste of funds                       substantiate the allegations.
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Allegations of financial             BIE investigated and did not
 mismanagement by the President of    substantiate the allegations.
 Haskell University
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Allegations a Haskell employee had   BIE investigated and took
 a sexual relationship with a         disciplinary action against the
 student                              subject of the investigation.
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Allegations a coach violated         BIE investigated and terminated the
 National Association of              coach's contract.
 Intercollegiate Athletics policies
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Allegations of misconduct and        BIE investigated and terminated a
 mismanagement in the cross-country   coach's contract and took
 running program.                     disciplinary action against a
                                      Haskell employee. BIE also rewrote
                                      the position description for the
                                      Athletic Director and changed the
                                      coach positions from contractors
                                      to full-time employees.
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Allegations of theft, harassment,    BIE investigated and took
 and due process violations           disciplinary action against three
                                      Haskell employees and did not
                                      renew an additional subject's
                                      contract.
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Allegations of sexual misconduct     BIE investigated and took
                                      disciplinary action against the
                                      subject.
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    Question 5. Since 2021, how many requests for (a) audits or 
investigations; (b) reports of fraud, waste and abuse; and/or 
whistleblower complaints/reports has the OIG received concerning 
actions, activities or circumstances involving the Bureau of Indian 
Education or its leaders, staff or faculty?

    Answer. Between January 1, 2021, and July 31, 2024, we received one 
congressional request for an audit of Chemawa Indian School. We 
completed the requested audit in July 2023. That audit resulted in this 
report that is available on our website: The Chemawa Indian School Did 
Not Account for Its Financial Resources, and the Bureau of Indian 
Education Did Not Provide Financial Oversight.
    During the same time period, the Office of Inspector General 
received 187 complaints related to BIE. Some of these complaints were 
duplicative, did not contain specific requests, or did not contain 
actionable information.

    5a) Since 2021, how many requests for (a) audits or investigations; 
(b) reports of fraud, waste and abuse; and/or whistleblower complaints/
reports has the OIG received concerning actions, activities or 
circumstances involving the Haskell Indian Nations University or its 
leaders, staff or faculty?

    Answer. Since January 2021, the Office of Inspector General has 
received 46 total complaints related to Haskell Indian Nations 
University. We consider every complaint a potential request to 
investigate or audit.

    5b) How many current investigations does OIG have under way related 
to Haskell Indian Nations University?

    Answer. During my testimony I confirmed that we have an ongoing 
review examining how HINU and Southwestern Indian Polytechnic Institute 
manage complaints of sexual harassment and misconduct. I am available 
to meet with the Committee to discuss these issues further.

    Question 6. In late May, 2021, Dr. Ronald J. Graham, the then just-
terminated President, Haskell Indian Nations University, filed 
Whistleblower Reprisal Complaint Form (E004957) alleging retaliation 
for (a) mismanaging grant funds; (b) payroll fraud; (c) possible 
misappropriation of $1 M in donated funds; (d) $500,000 misspent; and a 
list of other issues. OIG designated the Complaint OI-HQ-21-0616-R. Dr. 
Graham reported these and other matters as they occurred and requested 
audits and investigations to which BIE Director Dearman and BIE H.R. 
Director Shamblin, at the time, concurred. Almost immediately after Dr. 
Graham submitted complaints and reporting irregularities, he was 
terminated without notice or discussion. The DOI OIG intake officers 
took the Graham report by telephone in late May. On June 2, 2021, 
approximately 12 days later, OIG stated to wrote ``Mr.'' Graham ``DOI 
OIG reviewed the allegation in your complaint. OIG will not open an 
investigation into your termination during your probationary period.'' 
Explain why the OIG rejected this complaint.

    Answer. Please see our response to 6(b) below.

    6a) Pursuant to the complaint filed by Dr. Graham, did the OIG 
conduct an interview with him? If not, why not?

    Answer. On May 25, 2021, the OIG interviewed Dr. Graham as part of 
our standard complaint vetting process.

    6b) Dr. Graham reported donated funds unaccounted for, 
misappropriation of Federal Funds, financial malfeasance among other 
issues. Exclusive of the Graham complaint, what did the OIG do about 
the issues identified by Dr. Graham submitted report?

    Answer. Consistent with OIG's policies and procedures, we evaluated 
the complaint and determined the allegations were better addressed at a 
management level above BIE. We therefore referred his complaint to the 
Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs on June 8, 2021, for any action 
deemed appropriate and did not require a response.

    6c) The OIG e-mail rejection to Dr. Graham stated that their office 
would refer Graham's whistleblower report to ``the Office of the 
Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs for review and action they deem 
appropriate.'' When--on what date--did the OIG refer the Graham 
whistleblower report to the Assistant Secretary?

    Answer. We referred the allegations to the Assistant Secretary for 
Indian Affairs on June 8, 2021.

    6d) Did Assistant Secretary Newland provide the OIG with an update 
or report on action(s) taken and findings rendered? If so, when?

    Answer. We did not request a response and Assistant Secretary 
Newland has not provided one.

    6e) Did the OIG follow up and request a report on actions taken 
and/or findings rendered? If so, when?

    Answer. We did not request a response and closed the complaint on 
June 14, 2021.

    Question 7. After Dr. Graham was terminated and after the OIG 
rejected his petition your agency, Chief Glenna Wallace, Eastern 
Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, submitted a detailed eight(8) page letter to 
Inspector General Greenblatt in which she concluded: How can any Tribe 
or any parents entrust either (BIE or Haskell) with our young men and 
women? And, how can we trust the Interior Department when the Office of 
Inspector General--you and your office--when you reject responsible 
requests for an investigation in the face of overwhelming 
contradictions, misrepresentations, omissions, financial irregularities 
and/or even criminal misconduct? Why did Inspector General Greenblatt 
fail to acknowledge or respond to this letter?

    Answer. The OIG did, in fact, acknowledge and respond to this 
letter. The facts regarding our interactions on this letter are 
reflected below:

     The OIG received a complaint letter from the Chief of the 
            Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma that was emailed to our 
            office by the Executive Administrative Assistant to the 
            Chief. The letter alleged that Ronald Graham, former 
            President of HINU had been wrongfully terminated and that 
            the OIG failed to properly investigate.

     Within days of receiving the letter, we attempted to 
            interview Chief Wallace.

     In response, the Executive Administrative Assistant 
            reported via email that Chief Wallace would be out sick for 
            quite some time and did not know why we were reaching out 
            for an interview.

     We explained that the OIG received Chief Wallace's letter 
            about Ronald Graham's termination and offered to discuss 
            her concerns.

     The Executive Administrative Assistant then confirmed via 
            email that the letter to IG Greenblatt was to document her 
            concerns and an interview was not necessary.

    7a) What is the OIG's policy for addressing misconduct issues 
reported if they come from an individual on probation?

    Answer. All complaints are processed and evaluated in accordance 
with our policies, procedures, and practices regardless of the 
complainant's employment status.

              Questions Submitted by Representative Takano

    Question 1. I have a BIE-run school, Sherman Indian High School, in 
my district. You can understand why I am very troubled by the 
Department of Interior's failure to follow through when a complaint is 
made.
    My staff and yours have been in contact about the abysmal 
conditions of this school--and I thank Secretary Haaland and her team 
for coming to visit the facility. Her commitment to improving BIE 
school conditions is laudable.
    Nonetheless, there are chronic issues that span administrations. 
Teachers have described persistent flooding in classrooms from old 
pipes. Staff and students alike report mold in the classrooms and 
dormitories. My own staff has found dangerous electrical wiring, 
buildings in severe disrepair, and a host of other serious safety 
concerns--as well as substantial concerns involving the oversight of 
the school.
    Mr. Elliott, there are serious institutional issues with the BIE 
that will need restructuring, which will take years--but these students 
need help now.

    1a) What immediate steps will the Department of Interior take to 
improve oversight of BIE schools and ensure student and teacher safety?

    Answer. BIE manages a system of 183 elementary and secondary 
schools that provide educational services to one of the most vulnerable 
populations in the United States--approximately 45,000 Native American 
students in 23 States. The poor condition of Indian school facilities 
has been reported for nearly 100 years. For this reason, our office has 
prioritized oversight of the BIE. While I cannot speak to the immediate 
steps that the Department is taking to improve oversight, I can share 
that the OIG is currently conducting an ongoing series of health and 
safety inspections of BIE schools. Our objectives are to determine 
whether each school has addressed deficiencies found during required 
annual safety and health inspections conducted by BIE, developed an 
emergency action plan or program, and, if the school is BIE-operated, 
developed a security plan, in accordance with applicable requirements. 
We are prioritizing inspections of the 183 Indian schools based on 
risk, and are analyzing risk by taking various data into account, 
including:

     Safety and health inspection reports from the last three 
            years,

     Operations and Maintenance budget obligations,

     Facility Condition Index,

     Number of students,

     Age of main school building,

     Number of open work orders for safety and health 
            corrections, and

     OIG hotline complaints and single audit data, where 
            applicable.

    In addition to these ongoing inspections, we have also recently 
completed reviews related to other health and safety matters related to 
BIE-funded and-managed schools. For example, during our evaluation on 
Indian Affairs' (IA) management of deferred maintenance at school 
facilities, we found 1,056 work orders had not been completed for over 
20 years since first requested.\2\ Some of these related to safety 
deficiencies, including an inoperable fire alarm system, existing 
asbestos flooring, and missing exit signs. Some of these deficiencies 
remained unresolved because the schools lacked staff to oversee 
projects which led to delays in funding and completing projects.
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Maintenance of School Facilities/Office of Inspector General, U.S. 
Department of the Interior (doioig.gov)
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    In 2016, we conducted an inspection of Pine Hill Boarding School's 
facilities and found that the school had an inoperable fire system as 
well as several major facility deficiencies and safety and health 
concerns.\3\ In 2020, we followed up on the health and safety issues 
found during our 2016 inspection and found while overall facility 
conditions improved, some deficiencies remained unresolved. In 
addition, we also found other safety, health, and security concerns 
that were not identified in 2016, including a lack of inspections of 
critical equipment and potential indoor environmental contaminants, 
unauthorized access to potentially dangerous areas, inoperable or 
missing exterior security cameras, and dilapidated portable buildings 
regularly used by children and staff. These deficiencies remained 
unaddressed in part because IA said it was not tracking deficiencies 
identified during safety and health inspections to confirm they were 
being addressed.\4\
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Hill Boarding School/Office of Inspector General, U.S. Department of 
the Interior (doioig.gov)
    \4\ Facility Improvements Still Needed at Pine Hill School/Office 
of Inspector General, U.S. Department of the Interior (doioig.gov)

    1b) Unfortunately, it is no secret that BIE schools struggle with 
staff recruitment and retention. Can you describe the impact that 
inadequate staffing has on BIE's ability to conduct proper oversight? I 
am a fervent supporter of the mission of these institutions, but I fear 
for the safety of students and faculty that have to live and work in 
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such dangerous conditions.

    Answer. We have noted BIE's struggles with hiring and retaining 
staff as a concern in several of our prior reports on the Department of 
the Interior's major management challenges \5\ and the issue of 
staffing has come up in recent work. For example, our audit of the 
Chemawa Indian School found staffing shortages contributed to 
mismanagement of its Student Enterprise account and its inventory.\6\ 
As a result, Chemawa was unable to account for hundreds of thousands of 
dollars of students' personal funds. Also, in our March 2024 report on 
deferred maintenance of BIE-funded schools, we noted that BIE officials 
said that staffing has been a challenge in standing up its facility 
management program.\7\ Finally, during an ongoing health and safety 
inspection of a BIE school, we have found indications that staffing 
shortages are preventing the effective resolution of health and safety 
issues. We will be issuing the final report on this inspection to 
Congress and the public in the coming months.
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    \5\ See, e.g., Inspector General's Statement Summarizing the Major 
Management and Performance Challenges Facing the U.S. Department of the 
Interior, Report No. 2019-ER-052 (oversight.gov)
    \6\ The Chemawa Indian School Did Not Account for Its Financial 
Resources, and the Bureau of Indian Education Did Not Provide Financial 
Oversight/Office of Inspector General, U.S. Department of the Interior 
(doioig.gov)
    \7\ Final Evaluation Report--Indian Affairs Is Unable To 
Effectively Manage Deferred Maintenance of School Facilities, Report 
No. 2022-CR-036 (doioig.gov)
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    While our body of work has not addressed the specific issue of the 
impact that inadequate staffing has on BIE's ability to conduct proper 
oversight, it does show that inadequate staffing is hampering BIE's 
operations in several areas.

              Questions Submitted by Representative Owens

    Question 1. The OIG investigated HINU in 2018, and their findings 
included that HINU officials did not consistently follow their 
guidelines for handling complaints of misconduct, employees felt 
bullied and intimidated by the HINU President, and that an instructor 
sexually assaulted a student and was not reported to the authorities by 
the university. So, when Dr. Graham and Coach Mayes submitted multiple 
allegations against HINU, the OIG's response was to refer these matters 
involving a BIE-operated school to the BIE to investigate itself.

    1a) Why were these matters referred to the agency that is directly 
condoning, ignoring, or not even aware of serious problems to 
investigate itself?

    Answer. The OIG has oversight responsibility for DOI's 11 bureaus 
and offices, and we receive approximately 2,000 contacts annually to 
our hotline. We must triage those contacts to determine how to maximize 
the impact of the approximately 90 OIG employees dedicated to our 
investigative mission. Like most investigative entities, we simply do 
not have the capacity to investigate every complaint that is made 
through our hotline and, consistent with the best practices of the 
Inspector General community, we routinely refer administrative 
complaints and allegations of non-criminal misconduct to the 
responsible bureaus or offices. If we identify a pattern or trend of 
complaints that taken in the aggregate indicate an investigable matter, 
we may also decide to open an investigation. For example, we initiated 
the OIG's 2018 investigation that I discussed during my testimony \8\ 
due to a pattern of complaints received by our office. Additionally, we 
have a strong record across our broad portfolio of exploring sexual 
misconduct issues, which we also discussed at a hearing in 2019.
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Nations University/Office of Inspector General, U.S. Department of the 
Interior (doioig.gov)
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    Mr. Mayes' complaints were against HINU staff and administrators 
and were non-criminal in nature. We therefore referred the allegations 
to BIE, the bureau responsible for HINU. Mr. Mayes' reprisal complaint 
was not actionable by our office because as a contractor, Mr. Mayes did 
not have the protections codified in the Whistleblower Protection Act 
or Section 828 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 
Year 2013.
    Similarly, Dr. Graham alleged ethics violations and financial 
mismanagement that was best addressed by Department-level leadership 
rather than the OIG. We therefore referred the allegations to the 
Office of the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs. Regarding Dr. 
Graham's allegations of reprisal, we referred him to the Office of 
Special Counsel, the independent federal investigative and 
prosecutorial agency that safeguards the merit system by protecting 
federal employees, like Dr. Graham, from prohibited personnel 
practices, especially reprisal for whistleblowing.

    Question 2. Your testimony states that, ``Between 2018 and the 
present, we received 68 complaints related to issues at Haskell. We 
opened 5 investigations, initiated 1 review, referred 32 of the 
complaints to the Bureau of Indian Education (BIE), and 1 complaint to 
the Assistant Secretary of Indian Affairs. Twenty-nine of these 
complaints were electronically filed for information.''

    2a) How many of the 68 complaints involved anything related to 
sexual assault or rape? How many involved financial mismanagement?

    Answer. Nine of the 68 complaints involved sexual assault or rape 
and 19 involved financial mismanagement. We investigated or referred to 
BIE for investigation all nine of the complaints involving sexual 
assault, rape, or harassment.

    2b) How many of the 32 complaints mentioned in your testimony that 
you referred to the BIE involved anything related to sexual assault or 
rape? How many involved financial mismanagement?

    Answer. Two of the 32 complaints referred to BIE involved sexual 
assault or rape and nine involved financial mismanagement.

    2c) How many of the five investigations you opened involved 
anything related to sexual assault or rape? How many involved financial 
mismanagement? What is the status of these investigations?

    Answer. Two of the investigations involved sexual assault or rape 
and three involved financial mismanagement. All five of the 
investigations are closed.

    2d) Your testimony states that ``between 2018 and the present . . . 
29 of these complaints were electronically filed for information.'' 
Explain what you mean by ``filed for information.''

    Answer. ``Filed for Information'' means we took no specific action. 
This could occur due to a number of factors--the complaint being a 
duplicate submission, the issue having been previously reported, or a 
lack of actionable or verifiable information. However, we retain these 
complaints in our electronic case management system for potential trend 
analysis or future risk assessment.

    Question 3. When do you expect to be done with your review of 
whether BIE-operated postsecondary institutions were appropriately 
following laws and policies related to complaints of sexual harassment 
and misconduct? Regarding the BIE and HINU, are you getting the 
information you need from them in a timely manner?

    Answer. The objective of our ongoing review is to determine whether 
BIE-operated post-secondary schools' sexual misconduct policies 
complied with Executive Order 13160, whether the schools' response to 
complaints complied with their own policies, and whether employees 
received adequate training. We recognize the Committee's strong 
interest in this matter and therefore OIG staff will continue to 
communicate with you regarding the status of our ongoing work. Once our 
report is completed, we will issue it to BIE for review and response. 
We will then consider BIE's response and finalize a public report that 
we will transmit to Congress and post on our website. Throughout our 
review, BIE and HINU officials consistently provided information to our 
office in a timely manner.

    Question 4. In your testimony, you state, ``During the course of 
our investigation, we received an allegation that a Haskell instructor 
sexually assaulted a student off campus. Because local law enforcement 
had primary jurisdiction, we immediately referred the matter to the 
Lawrence Police Department.''

    4a) Did the Lawrence Police Department keep you updated on the 
investigation? If so, provide the updates.

    Answer. The Lawrence Police Department declined to investigate the 
allegations citing a lack of actionable evidence.

    Question 5. When a sexual assault case is severely mishandled, 
explain the process of notifying the OIG?

    Answer. On October 4, 2021, the Inspector General issued a memo to 
the then Deputy Secretary and Chief of Staff stating in part that the 
OIG ``reserves the right of first refusal to investigate complaints 
that fall within its primary jurisdiction, namely, integrity matters 
and those that pertain to potential fraud, waste, abuse, or 
mismanagement (355 DM 2 at 2.4(B)). Integrity matters concern 
'[a]llegations of serious matters which could compromise the 
Department's mission, receive public attention, or threaten the 
integrity of DOI programs' (355 DM 2 at 2.4(B)(1)). Investigation 
matters that are uniquely within the OIG's jurisdiction include those 
'that give the appearance of fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement in 
Departmental programs and operations' (355 DM 2 at 2.4(B)(2)), 
including 'actual or suspected criminal activity or other wrongdoing by 
Departmental employees, contractors, grantees, lessees, or any other 
persons doing business with the [DOI]' (110 DM 4 at (4.6)(D); see also 
[5 U.S.C. Sec. 407(a)]). Referral of any matters within the OIG's 
primary jurisdiction `should be made within 48 hours of discovery' (355 
DM 2 at 2.4(A)). If the OIG declines to initiate an investigation, it 
will remand the matter to the appropriate bureau or office for 
action.''
    The Department Manual further requires that ``Assistant Secretaries 
and heads of bureaus and offices are responsible for ensuring that 
procedures exist within their organization for immediate reporting to 
the Inspector General'' (355 DM 1 at 1.3(C)).
    Allegations of sexual assault against Department employees and 
contractors would be included in the definition of ``actual or 
suspected criminal activity.'' In conducting investigations related 
allegations of sexual assault, it is the OIG's practice to also review 
the actions taken by Department management in response to those 
allegations. As mentioned previously, the OIG does not have 
jurisdiction to investigate student on student sexual assault 
allegations that occur off-campus.
    Finally, any individual may report allegations of misconduct within 
the DOI to the OIG by contacting our Hotline via web (https://
www.doioig.gov/hotline), or by phone, fax, or mail (https://
www.doioig.gov/contact-us). Each bureau and office also have an 
assigned liaison who coordinates routinely with our Investigative 
Support Division and Intake Management Unit.

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    Dr. Gosar. Thank you very much, Mr. Elliott.
    I am now going to recognize Members for their 5 minutes. I 
am going to go first to the gentleman from Utah, Mr. Owens.
    Mr. Owens. Thank you. Mr. Newland, in a sworn statement, a 
Haskell faculty member described a complaint made by two female 
interns from the University of Kansas against an employee for 
engaging in inappropriate conduct. Haskell conducted a joint 
investigation with the Kansas Law School. The level of 
disciplinary action that was taken was ``maybe 5 days' 
suspension, because he had already gotten a reprimand letter in 
the past.''
    Why would you continue to employ an individual who admitted 
to sexually inappropriate behavior?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, thank you for that question. Can 
you clarify for me what report you are referring to?
    Mr. Owens. I do not have the details. You are not familiar 
with this report?
    Mr. Newland. I am not familiar with a University of Kansas 
investigation.
    Mr. Owens. OK, so you are not familiar with this particular 
action then at all?
    Mr. Newland. I am not.
    Mr. Owens. An AIB report?
    Mr. Newland. Our internal report?
    Mr. Owens. AIB report.
    Mr. Newland. Yes, the Administrative Investigation Board 
report.
    Mr. Owens. Yes.
    Mr. Newland. We have a couple that are flowing out of I 
believe all of these. Are you referring to the January 2023?
    Mr. Owens. I am asking you, so you are saying that you are 
not familiar at all with this report I am talking about, you 
have not heard about it? We are talking about an employee of 
Haskell. You have not heard about the disciplinary action taken 
that maybe 5 days' suspension because he has gotten a reprimand 
letter before? This is the first time you are hearing about 
this?
    Mr. Newland. I am sorry, I could not hear you.
    Mr. Owens. Is this the first time you are hearing about 
this?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I can tell you from our 
Administrative Investigation Board and our report, our internal 
investigations led to administrative----
    Mr. Owens. I am just asking a real quick question. Are you 
saying you have never heard about this particular incident that 
now has been investigated between Haskell and the Kansas Law 
School?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I am not aware of the Kansas 
University Law School investigation.
    Mr. Owens. It is a Haskell employee.
    Mr. Newland. Correct. I understand. I hear you.
    Mr. Owens. OK. And you have no idea what this is all about?
    Mr. Newland. That is unfamiliar to me, anything involving 
Kansas University.
    Mr. Owens. I have a letter from the Haskell Cross Country 
Team addressed to you. In the letter, the team speaks about the 
concerns about Haskell's and the Bureau's, ``lack of 
leadership, toxic, bullying nature, the nepotism involved with 
ongoing issues that have been outright neglected.''
    In their words, ``Our voices are not being heard, our well-
being ignored, and our fears pushed aside.''
    Did you see or read this letter?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I saw a copy of that letter 
attached to our internal report. I know that in that 
investigation, it says that that complaint was referred to me. 
In preparing for this hearing, Congressman----
    Mr. Owens. OK, I do not want to take too much time. So, you 
are aware of it. And my question is, did you respond to the 
letter?
    Mr. Newland. What I was getting to, Congressman, is that in 
preparing for this report and going back through my records, I 
did not find a copy of that letter.
    What often happens, people will email me sometimes at an 
email address that is wrong.
    Mr. Owens. OK, thank you so much.
    Mr. Elliott, do you have an agreement between the Office of 
Inspector General and the Department of the Interior, the 
Bureau of Indian Affairs, Bureau of Indian Education, and 
Haskell about reporting sexual assaults to the Office of 
Inspector General?
    Mr. Elliott. Congressman, we do not have a specific 
agreement. We do essentially maintain a first right of refusal 
on all allegations of significant sexual misconduct. We would 
view allegations, especially involving instructors or employees 
at Haskell University as meeting those standards for first 
right of refusal.
    Mr. Owens. OK. And your 2018 report findings included that 
Haskell officials do not consistently follow their guidelines 
for handling complaints of misconduct and employees felt 
bullied and intimidated by the then-Haskell president. You also 
learn that a Haskell instructor sexually assaulted a student at 
the organization, that your organization, not Haskell, referred 
to the Lawrence Police Department.
    Fast forwarding, you have a letter received from Dr. Graham 
and Coach Mayes.
    Given the report, why did you not investigate these 
allegations about the university with a history of not 
following their own rules and possibly repeating the troubling 
actions you found in your 2018 report?
    Mr. Elliott. Congressman, I think as evidenced in my 
written testimony and in my oral testimony, we considered all 
68 complaints on their merits and did open 5 separate 
investigations into various matters, some involving allegations 
of sexual misconduct, some allegations of mismanagement, 
mishandling of contracts.
    We are in a position where we oversee the 11 bureaus and 
offices of a rather large department and have to be particular 
about how we leverage our investigative resources. It is not 
uncommon, as it was in this case, for us to refer what we 
consider to be matters of management grievances or management 
issues that are better handled by the bureaus, so that those 
issues can be more directly addressed.
    Mr. Owens. OK, thank you. I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    The gentlewoman from Oregon, Ms. Bonamici, is now 
recognized for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Bonamici. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to start by 
noting that Director Dearman is here today, and I certainly 
hope that that is an indication that the Bureau of Indian 
Education is taking this issue seriously.
    I appreciate the testimony, but I still remain troubled by 
reports of institutional inaction at Haskell Indian Nations 
University. Failing to take student grievances seriously is 
unacceptable, as would be any effort to hide a final report 
about grievances from students and the public.
    It is my understanding that in November 2018, the 
Department of the Interior's Inspector General's report found 
that Haskell leadership did not handle sexual assault 
allegations in accordance with the school's guidelines. It also 
found that the school's mishandling of allegations that an 
instructor had sexually assaulted a student likely resulted in 
the revictimization of that student.
    Five years later, in 2023, we saw another report from the 
Bureau of Indian Education highlighting failures on the part of 
school administrators to respond to similar allegations.
    So, Mr. Newland, how did the school respond to the 2018 
report? And has anyone in a position of authority informed 
staff of the proper procedure for handling complaints? And the 
second part of the question is, what is the Department of the 
Interior doing today to make certain that the school is 
following guidelines when there are reports of sexual assault 
or sexual harassment?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. With respect to the 
2018 IG report, I cannot speak to what actions my predecessors 
took immediately in response. And I think as has been noted 
already, Haskell has had several presidents since then.
    I can speak to the 2023 report and the sexual assault 
allegations there. I think it is important to note here that in 
response to all of this, we undertook on our own an independent 
review of our own policies and procedures to make sure that our 
staff as well as the students on campus had a clear 
understanding of the response. And it is very clear to me that 
our staff could have done a better job at exhibiting more 
compassion while also making sure they are respecting the due 
process rights of people involved. These are struggles that 
every university in this country is having. Haskell is no 
different.
    What I want to make sure that we are doing going forward is 
taking that independent review and providing clarity to our 
staff and clarity to our students. The independent report that 
we commissioned laid out for us that some of our processes were 
overly legalistic. So, if you were a student turning to Haskell 
staff for help and support, it would be very difficult to 
figure out what to expect from that process.
    So, one of the things that we have set out to do is to 
create a student code of conduct as well as a Title IX 
compliant or consistent process at Haskell that people can 
understand. And that is something that we are working to put in 
place. I hope that answers your question.
    Ms. Bonamici. Partially. Have the students and faculty been 
informed of this, and what are you doing today to make sure 
that the school is following the guidelines?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. One of the things 
that we have done already last fall is engage local law 
enforcement in Lawrence, Kansas, as well as local organizations 
on facilitated training for our staff at Haskell to understand 
how to respond and how to conduct our process. And that is 
something that we are looking to do on an ongoing basis, and 
that came out of these recommendations from this independent 
report, to make sure that we are doing this every year.
    Ms. Bonamici. Thank you. And it is my understanding that 
the BIE finalized its investigative report into Haskell in 
January 2023, but the agency did not release that report to the 
public. And it is also my understanding that the agency did not 
release the report even after a Freedom of Information Act 
request was filed. Apparently, the requester had to file a 
lawsuit and still was not even given the correct report. And it 
was not until a year later that BIE handed over a redacted copy 
of the report.
    So, Mr. Newland, why did the agency not turn over the 
report when it was released, and how will the BIE be more 
transparent moving forward?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. I, too, am 
frustrated by how that was handled. I could give you all of the 
bureaucratic language. The bottom line is that our team did not 
handle that as well as we should. And I know we have sent an 
offer to the Committee to make available copies of that report 
with minimal redactions, only those necessary to protect the 
identity of students named in that report.
    Ms. Bonamici. I appreciate that, Assistant Secretary 
Newland. I think that would be helpful for the Committee to 
have that information.
    And I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. The Chairman for the Full Committee, Mr. 
Westerman, is recognized for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Chairman Gosar. And I also want 
to thank Chairman Foxx for having this joint hearing today. And 
to follow up on Ms. Bonamici's comments, Mr. Newland, on June 
11, the Committee sent a letter requesting information on fee 
to trust decisions as they relate to the Indian Gaming 
Regulatory Act. That deadline for response was June 28. And we 
have since sent a follow-up letter, which has also passed its 
response date.
    In addition, both this Committee and the Education and 
Workforce Committee requested an unredacted copy of the BIE 
report we are discussing today, and only late yesterday did we 
get a response from the Department offering an in camera review 
of the document, which I will note did not commit to being 
fully unredacted.
    With the oversight function of Congress, do you understand 
that when you withhold data from us and withhold information 
from us, it automatically creates an air of distrust when you 
come to a hearing?
    Mr. Newland. Mr. Chairman, I have great respect and 
appreciation for the oversight role of your committee and 
Congress. And I am working to get you information response to 
the requests that you laid out about gaming.
    With respect to----
    Mr. Westerman. The message of not getting the information 
we request is that you do not respect Congress and you do not 
care whether we are upset that you do not give us the 
information.
    So, with all that behind us, when can we expect to get 
fully responsive documents from you?
    Mr. Newland. With respect to the BIE report, the January 
2023 report, I anticipate we can make that in camera review 
available rather quickly. I do not have a date----
    Mr. Westerman. We did not ask for an in camera review. We 
asked for the unredacted report.
    Mr. Newland. Mr. Chairman, we are working to provide that 
to you. And I want to make sure that I am being clear that one 
of the reasons why we believe there will be some redactions 
still necessary is to protect the students that we are here 
talking about. There is information in there that the release 
of that would potentially be embarrassing and harmful to their 
interests and----
    Mr. Westerman. When were you first made aware of the issues 
related to Mr. Mayes' termination and the students at Haskell, 
as outlined in the 2023 AIB report?
    Mr. Newland. I think I was made aware of Coach Mayes' 
termination around the time that his contract was terminated. 
It may have been shortly after or the week that it happened.
    Mr. Westerman. And please describe in detail what immediate 
steps you took in that moment?
    Mr. Newland. In that moment, when I was informed, I 
typically, as Assistant Secretary, would defer to the Haskell 
administration to make the determination about coaching of 
Haskell sports.
    Mr. Westerman. When did you first discuss this issue with 
Secretary Haaland?
    Mr. Newland. Discuss which issue, Congressman?
    Mr. Westerman. The 2023 AIB report.
    Mr. Newland. I cannot give you a date on when I would have 
raised----
    Mr. Westerman. Do you remember if you received any 
directives from Secretary Haaland after discussing the report 
with her?
    Mr. Newland. Directives such as?
    Mr. Westerman. Actions to take.
    Mr. Newland. I do not anticipate, or I do not recall 
receiving directives, because this would have been my 
responsibility as Assistant Secretary.
    Mr. Westerman. So, if it is your responsibility, what 
actions have you taken to address the findings of misconduct in 
the AIB report?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There have been 
several actions taken. As I mentioned, we took disciplinary or 
personnel actions against 10 members of our staff and 
contractors flowing out of this. There have been subsequent 
personnel actions that have flowed out of this. We made the 
initial referral to the Office of Inspector General. We 
commissioned the USPS to conduct an investigation, and we 
commissioned our own independent review of our policies and 
procedures. We did all of this on our own.
    Mr. Westerman. Have you been satisfied with the response of 
the Department to the report?
    Mr. Newland. Mr. Chairman, none of this satisfies me. What 
I would tell you is that I am optimistic about our ability to 
make things better. And a lot of that comes from many of these 
recommendations that have been provided to us.
    Mr. Westerman. I have a lot more questions but not time to 
ask them. Please, going forward, when we ask for information, 
please provide it to us in a timely manner. And I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The gentleman from California, Mr. Takano, is recognized 
for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for the 
witnesses for being here.
    I have to say I am frankly appalled by the lack of 
transparency and accountability that BIE schools are subjected 
to.
    Mr. Assistant Secretary, the 2023 Administrative 
Investigative Board report detailing the failures of the BIE to 
respond to alleged abuse indicates that students reported 
serious grievances to BIE Director Tony Dearman and yourself 
via email and letters. The board could not find any evidence 
that any official recognized or responded to that outreach, 
even to let them know their concerns would be investigated.
    You are aware that the report did say that?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I am aware that the report said 
that.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you. My question to you is, why did your 
office fail to respond to these very serious allegations? Not 
even to let the senders know that their concerns would be 
addressed?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I became aware, as I have 
indicated, in late June, early July 2022 regarding some of 
these. In preparation for this hearing----
    Mr. Takano. My question is, why was there a failure to 
respond, even to let them know that their concerns would be 
addressed? They did not even receive that.
    Mr. Newland. I am working to answer your question. I am 
trying to answer your question, Congressman.
    I became aware in late June, early July 2022. In 
preparation for this hearing, I went back into my emails to see 
if I could find a copy of the letter referenced in the AIB 
report. I could not.
    What often happens is people sometimes email me at my name, 
first name, dot last name, at BIA. That is not my email 
address. And I do not recall receiving those letters directly--
--
    Mr. Takano. I will be interested to read more detail in the 
BIE report. Because the BIE report apparently reflects that 
emails and letters were sent to you. So, you are telling me 
that those letters never got to you because they were sent to a 
different address; is that right?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I think the internal report 
reflects that the students believed that they sent the letter 
to me.
    Mr. Takano. So, the students were under a misimpression 
that letters arrived to you?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, what I am trying to say is that 
oftentimes, people send things to me at the wrong email 
address.
    Mr. Takano. All right. Well, we will have to ascertain a 
little bit more about that. I want to figure that one out.
    Why did it take multiple Freedom of Information Act 
requests to produce the final 2023 BIE report detailing the 
allegations at Haskell Indian Nations University?
    Mr. Newland. That report should have been disclosed 
earlier.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you very much. The report came to a 
number of very concerning conclusions, including that the 
school's sexual assault policy and processes were not applied 
consistently, and that the procedures regarding sexual assault 
were insufficient.
    What type of oversight does the Department of the Interior 
provide to ensure that Haskell is protecting its students?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congressman. As I have indicated, 
what we are trying to do is to put in place clearer policies 
and procedures for our students, our faculty, and staff.
    I meet regularly with the BIE Director, on a weekly basis, 
in fact, and I meet on a weekly basis with the Haskell 
president, and we talk about all manner of issues that affect 
the BIE, including Haskell. So, we are working to make sure we 
have clear processes in place, training for our staff, support 
for our students. And I work to create a culture within our 
organization and expectations of excellence.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you. Assistant Secretary Newland, I have 
a BIE-run school, Sherman Indian High School, in my district. 
You can understand why I am very troubled by the Department of 
the Interior's failure to follow through when a complaint is 
made.
    My staff and yours have been in contact about the abysmal 
conditions of this school. And I thank Secretary Haaland and 
her team for coming to visit the facility, and her commitment 
to improving BIE school conditions is laudable.
    Nonetheless, there are chronic issues that span 
administrations, not just this administration but across 
administrations. Teachers have described persistent flooding in 
classrooms from old pipes. Staff and students alike report mold 
in the classrooms and dormitories. My own staff has found 
dangerous electrical wiring, buildings in severe disrepair, and 
a host of other serious safety concerns, as well as significant 
concerns involving the oversight of the school.
    I had questions for the Inspector General, but my time is 
running out and I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman from California.
    The gentleman from Virginia, Mr. Good, is recognized for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Newland, the Bureau of Indian Education, or BIE, 
under the Department of the Interior receives over a billion 
dollars in annual funding from hardworking taxpayers and is 
responsible for operating Haskell Indian Nations University. In 
Fiscal Year 2024, BIE used nearly $20 million in Federal funds 
to operate Haskell. Do you believe the Federal Government has 
been effective at running the school where this has been a 
satisfactory return on investment?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you for that question, Congressman. I 
believe that historically, we have under-invested in Haskell.
    Mr. Good. You think the taxpayers, after all we have heard 
today on a bipartisan basis, questioning all the concerns here, 
that this has been an effective use of taxpayer dollars, which 
should actually warrant more spending?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, what I am trying to tell you is 
that historically, and I acknowledge in my testimony, 
historically, Haskell has had a lot of challenges. Some of the 
things that we have been working on since coming into office--
--
    Mr. Good. Let me pause you. So, you feel like this has been 
a good return on the taxpayer investment of $20 million that 
has been specifically directed to Haskell?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I would tell you that the people 
who have graduated from Haskell are very proud----
    Mr. Good. By what standard of measurement would you say it 
has been an effective use of taxpayer dollars?
    Mr. Newland. I do not know how else to answer your 
question, other than to tell you that I believe we have a trust 
obligation to do better.
    Mr. Good. But you think the taxpayer should continue to 
subsidize the failures that have been described today on a 
bipartisan basis and that you have acknowledged in your 
testimony?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I would reiterate that I believe 
that we have a trust obligation to make these investments in 
Indian education, and higher education. And to do that----
    Mr. Good. Thank you for that statement. It is a trust 
obligation.
    You said in your initial testimony the No. 1 responsibility 
is to provide a safe and secure learning environment for the 
students and the staff. So, Haskell is operated by the Federal 
Government and, as has already been noted today, has a pattern 
of mismanagement, sexual assault allegations going back for 
years. And it appeared that the BIE might finally provide 
transparency with the investigation report that was published 
in 2022.
    But the students repeatedly asked for this report. And 2 
years later, all they got was this heavily redacted version 
with the mismatched dates. And it was only released under 
compulsion from the FOIA requests. So, it appears that the 
Biden administration, the Biden-Harris administration, I should 
say, is unable or unwilling to hold Haskell accountable.
    In January of a year and a half ago, Haskell students sent 
a letter to Secretary Haaland asking for the AIB report's 
release and she never responded. Is she aware of this letter or 
this request from the students?
    Mr. Newland. I cannot speak to whether Secretary Haaland 
read the students' letter. As I have explained a few times now, 
Congressman, people often send us these to our emails and the 
emails are often entered wrong----
    Mr. Good. But what does that say about her if she does not 
know about this letter from the students on such a serious 
issue as is being discussed today for the purposes of this 
hearing?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I will tell you from my firsthand 
experience that Secretary Haaland's commitment to Haskell and 
its students is probably greater than any of her predecessors 
in her position.
    Mr. Good. Well, who is taking responsibility for the 
failures of transparency, and the justice for the victims that 
have been talked about today? Who is taking responsibility for 
that?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, in my role as Assistant 
Secretary, I provide the leadership and oversight for the 
Bureau of Indian Education.
    Mr. Good. So, it is your responsibility, all these 
failures?
    Mr. Newland. It is my responsibility to set this 
expectation and to create a culture at Haskell, and that is 
exactly what I have sought to do.
    Mr. Good. Is the Federal Government, and in this case your 
department, fulfilling its responsibility to keep students safe 
at Haskell?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I believe we should do better, 
always, to keep people safe from sexual assault, abuse, and 
bullying.
    Mr. Good. What does it say about the school that there have 
been six different presidents in 8 years? Why the continuous 
change in leadership? Why such frequent change? Is that to 
cover up the failures, to spare folks from responsibility? Why 
would there be six different presidents in 8 years?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, prior to this President and this 
Secretary, in my term as Assistant Secretary, the leadership 
position at Haskell was a GS-15 position, which in the 
executive branch pay scale is lower than other executive 
leadership positions.
    One of the first things I began working on----
    Mr. Good. So, what is that pay scale?
    Mr. Newland. The GS-15 pay scale? I do not know what the 
exact salary is.
    Mr. Good. You said it was lower.
    Mr. Newland. It is lower.
    Mr. Good. The people listening would like to know what that 
is. What is that amount?
    Mr. Newland. I can provide that to you. But we set out to 
make it a senior executive service position because that is the 
type of recognition and respect that is befitting a university 
president.
    Mr. Good. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    The gentlewoman Dr. Adams is recognized for her 5 minutes.
    Dr. Adams. Thank you, Chair Gosar. And thank you, Mr. 
Newland, for being here testifying before the Committee.
    Mr. Newland, I was a college professor for 40 years, and I 
know better than most that fostering a welcoming campus climate 
is an essential responsibility for an institution of higher 
learning, and it is a priority for its leadership.
    We know that there have been many allegations of misconduct 
at Haskell that could contribute to a lack of comfort and 
safety on Haskell's campus. So, what steps have BIE and Haskell 
leaders taken to create a safe and welcoming learning 
environment for its students?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman, and I appreciate 
your experience. I know you have limited time. I want to share 
I have also taught at colleges and law schools and served on 
boards of two higher ed institutions, so I appreciate that.
    Again, one of the challenges I have sought to address 
immediately is to create stability in the leadership at 
Haskell. And then in response to the independent report that we 
commissioned ourselves, to make it clear to students on campus 
what type of support they should expect to receive, and how 
this process will work if there is an instance of sexual 
assault.
    We have also put in place a campus advocate coordinator. 
Because Title IX does not directly apply to Haskell because of 
the way it is crafted and Haskell's unique position, we had to 
build a process that is similar to Title IX, and we put this 
campus advocate coordinator in place shortly after we received 
that initial independent report. So, these are some of the 
steps that we are taking.
    Dr. Adams. OK, thank you very much.
    Mr. Newland, Dr. Ronald Graham, one of the former 
presidents of Haskell, who also happens to be a witness on the 
second panel, testified that he was told that student retention 
and student population growth were major priorities for the 
school to address. So, what are the major causes of these 
issues? And has Interior dedicated resources to ensuring that 
students have what they need to be successful?
    Mr. Newland. I would like to address that in two parts, if 
I can, Congresswoman. First of all, we have actually increased 
enrollment at Haskell. The last academic year saw I believe it 
was the highest enrollment at Haskell that we have had in 13 
years. I can verify that after the hearing, if you like.
    We also want to make sure that when students come to campus 
that they have the support that they need. And, again, 
providing stability in leadership and reducing some of the 
infighting that has occurred over many, many years amongst some 
of the cliques that I have identified at the Haskell staff is 
really important to making sure that it is a stable learning 
university community.
    Dr. Adams. Can you point to one or two specifics that have 
enabled you to increase this enrollment?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. I would point back 
to some of those things that I mentioned. When you have eight 
university presidents in 6 years, that does not signal to 
people who want to come to your university that there are a lot 
of good things going on. So, building in that stability of 
leadership by creating a senior executive position for the 
Haskell president and getting that position filled, getting the 
campus advocate coordinator position created and filled. As 
recently as the last month, we have created other oversight 
positions within the Bureau of Indian Education to provide 
support to Haskell and SIPI. This is all part of the 
organization building that will ensure that we have stability 
at Haskell, and to provide that consistent, high-quality campus 
environment.
    Dr. Adams. Thank you very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentlewoman.
    The gentlewoman from North Carolina, Dr. Foxx, is 
recognized for her 5 minutes.
    Dr. Foxx. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Newland, you have implied that if you only had more 
money and the position, and by the way, do not say thank you 
for the question. We know that, OK? Do not waste my time.
    You have implied that you need more money to hire people at 
higher than a GS-15. Is it your position that people at a GS-15 
level or lower have worse morals than people who get more 
money? Is that your position, that you cannot get people with 
good morality unless you pay them a lot of money?
    Mr. Newland. No, Congresswoman, I am not saying that.
    Dr. Foxx. Well, I am certainly glad to hear that.
    You also mentioned you wanted to train people to understand 
the process. I hate the word ``train,'' but that is not my 
issue. You mean you have to bring people in to tell them the 
difference between right and wrong? You cannot hire people to 
start with who know whether to report rapes or not?
    Mr. Newland. That is not what I said, Congresswoman.
    Dr. Foxx. OK, well, that is what it sounded like you were 
saying, is that you have to teach people to know the difference 
between right and wrong.
    Mr. Newland, we have sworn testimony from a contracted 
adjunct instructor from July 22 stating, ``I would hope no one 
is intimidated and afraid to report a rape. That seems a little 
ridiculous.'' The inference here is that students are, in fact, 
afraid or hesitant to report a rape on campus. What actions 
have been taken to ensure that students are not actually 
intimidated and afraid to report a rape?
    Mr. Newland. Congresswoman, I have attempted to lay those 
steps, those actions out in this hearing already. But I will 
repeat myself. We have taken the independent review, which 
included more than a dozen recommendations on how to improve 
our policies and processes, to make it clear to our students 
about how to seek support and what to expect in that process.
    Dr. Foxx. You indicated that you think that letters that 
were sent by the students never made it to you because they 
were sent to the wrong email address, correct?
    Mr. Newland. Congresswoman, that is in my view the most 
likely explanation. I do not have a recollection of receiving 
the letter that was in the AIB report.
    Dr. Foxx. Would you object to allowing your email devices 
to be searched to see if maybe they went into your spam or 
somewhere else? Could those be searched? And without your 
permission, we could use the addresses you think might have 
been used to see if anywhere those emails are, but are you 
absolutely certain that you did not get any of those emails?
    Mr. Newland. Congresswoman, I would not come here and tell 
you I am absolutely certain. I get hundreds of emails on many 
days, and I do not have a recollection of that. In my 
preparation for this hearing, I could not find any emails with 
those names attached.
    Dr. Foxx. Then you would not object to there being a 
forensic search?
    Mr. Newland. A forensic search?
    Dr. Foxx. Yes.
    Mr. Newland. Congresswoman, however we would respond to 
that type of request for the Committee, my emails are often 
subject to FOIA requests, my calendar is.
    Dr. Foxx. OK, that is all I need to know.
    Mr. Elliott, regarding the Haskell complaints referred to 
you in 2022 and 2023, your testimony states that, ``Based on 
the initial complaint and the additional information provided 
in our interview, we determined the allegations would be best 
addressed by the BIE. We referred the allegations to BIE on 
July 6, 2022, and requested a response in 90 days. We received 
the BIE response on January 25, 2024.''
    What were the allegations?
    Mr. Elliott. The allegations that we referred back were the 
exact same allegations that came to the Bureau of Indian 
Education from the group of Haskell students who submitted the 
complaint through what is called Personnel Bulletin 1801. BIE 
shared those allegations with us and, as I stated in my 
testimony, we evaluated those thoroughly. We determined that 
BIE was in the best position to investigate those allegations 
and potentially take action. So, we referred the exact same 
document back to them.
    Again, as you heard me explain earlier, we want to make 
sure that we exert that first right of refusal. And in this 
case, we appreciated that they had provided those to us but 
believed that BIE was in a better position to investigate----
    Dr. Foxx. But it took BIE 572 days to respond to you.
    So, Mr. Newland, would you please explain again, if you 
have done it before, why it took the BIE 572 days to respond to 
the OIG? And as my colleague from Arkansas said, it does not 
indicate to us that you are appropriately concerned about what 
is going on at HINU.
    Mr. Newland. Congresswoman, with respect to the 
finalization of that report, our investigative board was 
working to make sure that their investigation was thorough. And 
with respect to my sentiments regarding Haskell, again, I would 
disagree with your characterization of my concern for Haskell. 
I am proud of Haskell. It is one of the first things I asked 
about when I started this job. I have been to campus, I have 
met with their students, I have hosted interns on my staff, I 
can go on. But Haskell is something----
    Dr. Foxx. Just answer the question.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Dr. Gosar. You are welcome.
    The gentlelady from North Carolina, Ms. Manning, is 
recognized for her 5 minutes.
    Ms. Manning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Newland, you have stated in your testimony that BIE and 
Haskell are working to implement changes in response to many, 
many allegations outlined in the 2023 AIB report. But you also 
stated that the OIG investigated such allegations in 2018. And 
I will add that the full timeline of similar allegations 
against Haskell goes as far back as a Department of Education 
investigation in 2007, as well as lawsuits and complaints 
dating back to at least 2016. So, misconduct at Haskell is not 
new.
    Why did the BIE wait until 2023 to begin implementing 
changes at Haskell?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. We did not wait 
until 2023 to begin implementing changes. Again, I began my job 
in February 2021. Within months of beginning my tenure, we were 
working to elevate the president position at Haskell to an SES 
position.
    Ms. Manning. Let me ask you about that, because that has 
come up several times. And you said that there have been eight 
presidents in 6 years; is that correct?
    Mr. Newland. That is what has been said here in the 
Committee. I believe that is accurate.
    Ms. Manning. OK. And you have mentioned several times that 
the Haskell president is paid at the GS-15 salary level, which 
I do not know by heart. But a quick Google search showed that 
that is a maximum in 2024 of $191,900 a year. Is that about 
accurate?
    Mr. Newland. I do not have it in front of me, so I cannot 
disagree with you, Congresswoman.
    Ms. Manning. Well, I will note that that is more than we 
make. However, is that on par with what the average college 
president would make at a small college?
    Mr. Newland. I cannot tell you that. But it is, if I may, 
Congresswoman, it is----
    Ms. Manning. But you have mentioned that over and over as 
one of the reasons that there are problems, that the Haskell 
president is paid at the GS-15 level.
    Mr. Newland. I want to make sure I am clarifying and 
speaking accurately. The salary is not the only piece of that, 
Congresswoman. Having that SES position, being a member of the 
executive service at the Department of the Interior carries 
with it a designation of your role in the organization.
    Ms. Manning. OK. But I assume what you are saying is one of 
the problems that Haskell has had is they have had such heavy 
turnover of presidents and they have not been able to attract 
an appropriate president to clean up the mess that has been at 
that school for year after year after year.
    Mr. Newland. That has been one of the challenges, yes.
    Ms. Manning. OK. You mentioned something else that I want 
to go back to. And that was you gave us a list of how many 
complaints that had been made, 138 complaints, but there have 
only been five investigations. That sounds like a very low 
number of investigations related to the number of complaints 
made. Can you explain that?
    Mr. Newland. I know in this instance, Congresswoman, a lot 
of these complaints or allegations came in bunches. They were 
one person filing a number or making a number of allegations 
and counter allegations.
    Ms. Manning. Can you tell me how many individuals filed 
complaints, if you were to boil that down to how many 
individuals filed complaints?
    Mr. Newland. I can follow up with that number. I do not 
have it in front of me.
    Ms. Manning. OK. And you mentioned that one of the sexual 
assault cases was by a student against another student, but it 
was off campus. So, you turned that over to local law 
enforcement; is that correct?
    Mr. Newland. I am glad you asked that question, 
Congresswoman. It is apparent to me that that was a source of 
confusion amongst our staff.
    Ms. Manning. But is that what happened? There was a sexual 
assault by one student against another, it took place off 
campus, so it was handed to local law enforcement? Can you just 
say yes or no to that one?
    Mr. Newland. There was a referral to local law enforcement, 
yes.
    Ms. Manning. OK. Well, did that assault victim have any 
protection against running into the perpetrator while she was 
on campus?
    Mr. Newland. In that particular case, Congresswoman, I 
believe there was an internal process on Haskell. There were 
some other allegations that involved the same person.
    Ms. Manning. The same perpetrator?
    Mr. Newland. Correct.
    Ms. Manning. So, to answer my question, did that assault 
victim, was there any protection offered to her so that she 
could continue her career at the school without having to run 
into the perpetrator?
    Mr. Newland. There were no-contact orders issued. And I 
believe, Congresswoman, that the alleged perpetrator we are 
talking about, as laid out in this report, was removed from 
campus for other reasons.
    Ms. Manning. All right, my time is about to expire. I yield 
back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentlewoman.
    The gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Collins, is recognized for 
5 minutes.
    Mr. Collins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Assistant Secretary Newland, Dr. Graham was hired as 
president by Dr. Dearman on February 20, 2020. And his first 
day on campus service was May 11, 2020.
    In December 2020, Director Dearman gave him an outstanding, 
exceeds expectations evaluation. And he was terminated on May 
7, 2021, allegedly 3\1/2\ days before his probation ended and 
he became a merit system employee. There was no notice of 
deficiencies or required improvements. He was given 1 hour to 
clear his office and leave campus.
    Why was Dr. Graham terminated from his position?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congressman. I cannot speak much 
about Dr. Graham's tenure as----
    Mr. Collins. Do you not know the reason he was terminated?
    Mr. Newland. I do not.
    Mr. Collins. Thank you.
    Were you informed that the three so-called failures cited 
to justify his termination were actually each listed as 
accomplishments in the BIE evaluation conducted shortly before 
his termination?
    Mr. Newland. I am not aware of that, Congressman.
    Mr. Collins. Not aware of that either. You are not doing 
too good here.
    Were you informed that in the 90 days preceding the 
termination of Dr. Graham that he reported an unaccounted for 
donated funds exceeding a million dollars?
    Mr. Newland. I have heard that allegation, Congressman.
    Mr. Collins. What about there were in excess of 300 counts 
of payroll fraud?
    Mr. Newland. I am not familiar with those allegations.
    Mr. Collins. What about a mismanaged $500,000 contract?
    Mr. Newland. I believe that I have heard about that one.
    Mr. Collins. I thought you were trying to change this 
place.
    Mr. Newland. As I indicated, Congressman----
    Mr. Collins. You should know this stuff if you are trying 
to change it. Because if you do not know what has happened, 
then you do not know what to change.
    What about an ethics violation by a member of the staff 
that the BIE HR Director Shamblin informed Dr. Graham was a 
termination offense?
    Let me repeat that for you. An ethics violation by a member 
of the staff that BIE HR Director Shamblin informed Dr. Graham 
was a termination offense.
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I was not Assistant Secretary for 
nearly all of Dr. Graham's tenure. I cannot speak to it.
    Mr. Collins. I am not going to repeat myself again.
    According to the AIB report, BIE investigators recommended 
Mr. Mayes be reinstated. At the time, why was the explicit 
recommendation to reinstate Mr. Mayes not followed through 
with?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, my understanding is Coach Mayes 
is back at Haskell.
    Mr. Collins. Why did BIE and HINU fail to inform Mr. Mayes 
of the recommendation for reinstatement?
    Mr. Newland. I cannot speak to that, Congressman.
    Mr. Collins. Why did BIE after Mr. Mayes wrote BIE Director 
Dearman asking to be reinstated last July inform him last 
August that he could not be reinstated because his contract had 
expired, when the report recommended reinstatement 6 months 
prior?
    Mr. Newland. Again, I cannot speak to that, Congressman. 
But I know, it is my understanding Coach Mayes is back at 
Haskell.
    Mr. Collins. Yes, but I think I laid out the groundwork to 
all of that, too, and you do not have any answers for any of 
that. I think that is what we are getting at. I think what I do 
not understand, Assistant Secretary, is you lay blame on people 
for not having the right email address. That is pretty poor. 
Who is responsible for giving out their email address?
    Mr. Newland. I am happy to provide anyone----
    Mr. Collins. It is you. It is you.
    Mr. Newland. Correct. And I am happy to provide it, 
Congressman.
    Mr. Collins. Well, apparently you are not doing too good 
with your students.
    How many students do you think have tried to email you and 
did not get you?
    Mr. Newland. I cannot speak to that.
    Mr. Collins. No, you cannot. You really cannot, because you 
do not know. It is almost like you do not know your job.
    With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    The gentlelady from New Mexico, Ms. Leger Fernandez, is 
recognized for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. Thank you, Chairman and Ranking 
Member. And I want to thank in advance the witnesses that we 
will be listening to in the next panel, especially given the 
manner in which both being called, and it is going to be a bit 
more hectic. I want to tell you that the fact that it is hectic 
is not because we do not recognize how important it is to hear 
your voices, but that is the manner in which the Floor schedule 
interferes with so much important work.
    Haskell and its students still feel the remnants of a 
traumatic history and forced cultural assimilation. I have 
staff who attended Haskell. And the problems that we are 
talking about today, they were aware of. And they attended it 
not yesterday, they attended it 4 years ago. The problems that 
were set out in the report during the Trump administration were 
not addressed.
    The fact that the Trump administration and the prior 
Secretary did not address those problems, however, does not 
relieve this Administration from its obligations. I think that 
is important. The Trump administration received these reports, 
did not do anything about it, now we have more reports, and we 
need to address it. It is simply not acceptable.
    Victims should be listened to and not silenced. They should 
not be disciplined for raising the issues that affect not only 
their lives and their futures at the school, but everybody 
else. The idea that this was well known among the student body 
is problematic.
    Assistant Secretary Newland, you mentioned keeping 
leadership stability to foster trust and accountability for 
staff and students, because we have had such a revolving door 
over there. What resources are you providing to the current 
administration to make sure there is leadership stability at 
Haskell? Let us know what you are doing?
    Mr. Newland. I am sorry, Congresswoman, I could not hear 
the end of your question.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. OK, let me get a little closer. 
Usually, my voice resonates.
    What resources are you providing to the current 
administration to make sure there is leadership stability at 
Haskell?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman. I have laid out some 
of the structural things that we are trying to do at Haskell. 
But I also believe that in my role as the appointed and Senate-
confirmed official overseeing the Indian Affairs Bureaus, it is 
important to have that direct engagement with leadership in our 
bureaus.
    I meet weekly with Director Dearman, and that meeting 
includes Dr. Arpan, the president of Haskell, where we discuss 
all these issues. And as they come up, we can work on them in 
real time.
    In terms of other resources like funding, we have asked 
Congress for increases in funding at Haskell to provide support 
to our staff and, most importantly, our students on campus.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. And did we provide that funding?
    Mr. Newland. To some extent. Our appropriations request in 
Fiscal Year 2024 was nearly $21 million and we were 
appropriated flat that year.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. Mr. Elliott, in your testimony, you 
mentioned the Office of Inspector General's Special 
Investigations and Reviews is reviewing whether the BIA-
operated post-secondary institution followed policies related 
to sexual harassment and misconduct complaints. What is the 
timeline for this to be public? And when it becomes public, how 
does the DOI OIG enforce the corrective recommendations? And I 
think you are going to toss it back over to him. But share with 
us what you are doing.
    Mr. Elliott. Thank you, Congresswoman. If I speculated on 
the timing, I would probably be lying. But what I can tell you 
is that we are in the final stages of what we would consider to 
be the fieldwork and moving towards report writing. Because it 
is a review, the vast majority of our findings will be made 
public. At this point, we do not know if or what 
recommendations we might make to BIE. But if we do make 
recommendations, we have a standard process by which we follow 
up with the bureaus to assess whether or not they have complied 
with those recommendations.
    We provide that report in draft so the bureau can offer 
some insight, concur or nonconcur with those recommendations, 
and inform us on what their plan would be to implement those 
recommendations if they concur.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. And Assistant Secretary Newland, can 
we get your commitment that you are going to take those 
recommendations seriously and begin implementing them as fast 
as possible?
    Mr. Newland. Yes.
    Ms. Leger Fernandez. Thank you. With that, I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentlewoman.
    The gentleman from Kansas, Mr. Mann, is recognized for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Mann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for holding 
this important hearing. And thank you all for being here today.
    I am Congressman Mann. I represent the big 1st District of 
Kansas. And while I do not serve on either of these committees, 
Haskell Indian Nation University is in my district. These 
concerns are serious. And it is important that we begin to get 
answers today.
    Haskell is the only tribal university in the world with an 
entirely Indigenous population. It is a one-of-a-kind, 
historic, and invaluable institution. And it should be a crown 
jewel. However, and let me be clear, when it comes to Haskell, 
the U.S. Department of the Interior and the Bureau of Indian 
Education has dropped the ball. Years of mismanagement, lack of 
oversight, and cycles of misconduct have all compounded and led 
us here today.
    On June 14, I sent a letter to Interior Secretary Haaland 
and you, Assistant Secretary Newland, raising issues I am 
seeing, and requesting that you all commit to Haskell and 
answering student and faculty concerns instead of sweeping them 
under the rug. That letter has gone unanswered, although there 
was a confirmed receipt of that letter.
    So, my question for you, Mr. Assistant Secretary, do you 
understand that we all are very concerned? That is why we are 
here. Do you understand the level of concern that this 
Committee has, I believe bipartisan? And what is going to 
change moving forward after today?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congressman. Yes, I understand very 
clearly that both of these committees are concerned about 
Haskell and the students there.
    Mr. Mann. And when are you going to answer my letter? We 
sent it on June 14. We have gotten no response. It sounds like 
that is a trend that we are hearing, these letters are being 
sent, no response. When will you give me an answer to my June 
14 letter?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, were there----
    Mr. Mann. Can you get it by the end of next week?
    Mr. Newland. I will work to get it to you ASAP.
    Mr. Mann. I would greatly appreciate by the end of next 
week you have a response to the letter I sent to you on June 
14. It did get sent to the correct email address. Your office 
confirmed that you received it.
    How has this behavior gone on for so long without BIE 
intervention?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, what behavior? I am sorry.
    Mr. Mann. There just seems to be a culture of incidences 
that are not being dealt with, multiple infractions. Why has 
this gone on for so long?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congressman. There have been a lot 
of challenges on setting clear leadership expectations at 
Haskell for many years. And as I laid out in my oral statement, 
I believe because of the high turnover in Haskell presidents 
and leadership over the years, that has allowed some of the 
problem with these factions or these cliques on campus to 
fester, which creates problems like has been outlined with 
Coach Mayes' experience and the investigative report about 
that.
    I believe creating stable leadership with a very clear 
vision is step one to getting our arms around that problem. 
That is something that I have been focused on. I have been to 
campus several times as Assistant Secretary, a number of times 
before I took this job, and met with students, met with faculty 
and staff, met with board members. Creating that stability, I 
think, is the first step in quelling a lot of these factions 
that have really created a lot, not all, but a lot of these 
problems on campus. And that is something we are going to 
continue to try to do.
    Mr. Mann. I agree with you. Leadership is a big part of it. 
Funding is part of it, leadership is part of it. I have been on 
campus as well. I will just tell you, you are on campus for 
just a few minutes, and you realize this institution is not all 
that it could be or should be. And frankly, I am looking to you 
to help right the ship and provide the leadership that has been 
far too lacking at this institution for far too long.
    I think our students that go there deserve better. I think 
the country deserves better. And I think everyone on this 
committee, I do not want to speak for everyone else, but it 
appears to be after this hearing, everyone here understands and 
agrees that we can and should be doing better.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With that, I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    The gentleman from Virginia, Mr. Bobby Scott, is recognized 
for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Newland, you have been asked questions like you 
are the chief executive officer. Who is the chief executive 
officer of the college? Is it the president?
    Mr. Newland. Correct. Dr. Arpan. He is sitting here.
    Mr. Scott. Where is your office?
    Mr. Newland. Where is my office? It is here in Washington, 
DC.
    Mr. Scott. Washington, DC? OK. Who does the president 
report to?
    Mr. Newland. The Director of the Bureau of Indian 
Education.
    Mr. Scott. Is there a board of regents or something?
    Mr. Newland. The board of regents, because Haskell is a 
federally run university, the board of regents is advisory.
    Mr. Scott. So, the president reports to who?
    Mr. Newland. The Director of the Bureau of Indian 
Education.
    Mr. Scott. And who does he report to?
    Mr. Newland. Me.
    Mr. Scott. OK, now after the third or fourth president 
during this 6-year period, was any action taken to try to get 
some stability?
    Mr. Newland. Yes. Dr. Arpan has been both the interim, now 
in the confirmed president of Haskell I believe since November 
2022.
    Mr. Scott. And you believe that he is going to be there for 
a little while?
    Mr. Newland. That is my hope.
    Mr. Scott. You have had a lot of allegations of nepotism, 
sex abuse, and whatnot. Regardless of the status of those 
investigations, can you tell us what changes have been made?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congressman. Going back to some of 
these reports, there was disciplinary action taken against 10 
employees and contractors flowing out of these allegations. And 
I know some folks involved are no longer employed at Haskell. 
And----
    Mr. Scott. You fired some people. Have changes been made so 
that we will not expect problems in the future?
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I am working really hard to make 
sure that these types of factions, and these types of 
allegations and activities do not happen at Haskell.
    Mr. Scott. Mr. Elliott, have you seen, regardless of your 
timetable, have you seen changes made at the college that would 
lead us to believe that the problem is being addressed?
    Mr. Elliott. That is essentially the purpose of our ongoing 
review, is to take that opportunity to assess what changes have 
been made, what changes are ongoing. And as I said earlier, 
potentially offer some recommendations to the Bureau of Indian 
Education.
    Mr. Scott. Well, the fact that they know that you are 
wandering around doing an investigation ought to get them to 
tighten up a little bit, do you think? Have they made changes, 
based on the fact that there is an ongoing investigation, so 
that anything you find will be in the past, not in the future?
    Mr. Elliott. It would be too early for me to speak 
specifically to our findings, as it is still ongoing. But it is 
not uncommon for changes to be made while the Office of 
Inspector General has an ongoing investigation, evaluation, or 
audit. There is real time back and forth.
    Mr. Scott. Have you seen a difference in attitude?
    Mr. Elliott. I cannot speak directly to that. Our 
investigators in the field have had direct interactions with 
Haskell staff, with BIE officials. And within our report, we 
will speak to the substance of those interactions and 
interviews.
    Mr. Scott. Secretary Newland, all colleges got extra money 
during the COVID period. What did the college do with the extra 
COVID money?
    Mr. Newland. I am sorry, Congressman, did you ask how did 
Haskell use the rescue plan funding?
    Mr. Scott. There were several bills. There was a lot of 
money to colleges.
    Mr. Newland. Congressman, I would have to give you a 
follow-up answer in writing to lay out how those different 
funding streams went. I am not trying to evasive; I just do not 
want to mis-speak. I want to give you accurate information.
    Mr. Scott. I appreciate that answer.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    The gentlewoman from New Mexico, Ms. Stansbury, the Ranking 
Member, is recognized for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you to 
the Assistant Secretary and Inspector General for being here.
    I also just want to address we are going to have to take a 
recess because of votes. I want folks to understand we take 
this very seriously, but unfortunately we are going to have to 
take a little break.
    But I do appreciate, Mr. Assistant Secretary, that you 
addressed the community of Haskell in your remarks. And I want 
to say this loud and proud for the Haskell community, we are 
proud of you, we know that you are proud of your school. In 
fact, Haskell has a long list of famous alumni, including 
people like Jim Thorpe and our Congresswoman from Kansas No. 3. 
So, we really are proud of this school.
    But I think the comments that were made about it being a 
crown jewel of the Federal system are really what we are 
talking about. And how do we address systemic issues in the 
management, and the way in which student issues are being 
addressed?
    I do want to take just a moment in that note to address 
some of the comments that were made and clarify that the reason 
why this is a Federal school is because of the history of the 
Federal Government. And like all BIE schools, it stems from 
this dark history of the Federal Government having a forced 
assimilation program that was articulated through Indian 
boarding schools.
    But over the last several decades, the last half century, 
these schools have been transformed into vibrant campuses and 
community schools that are centers for Native education and 
also leadership. So, I think that is important to recognize. 
And the underinvestment is not just an issue of are we using 
taxpayer dollars effectively, it is about actually making good 
on treaty and trust responsibilities, because the U.S. 
Government signed over 700 treaties with tribes, in which many 
of them guaranteed the education, economic development, and 
other resources would be provided to our Tribal Nations. So, 
this is a Federal treaty and trust responsibility to our 
tribes. And that is why the Federal Government funds these 
schools. I wanted to really clarify that.
    Now, Mr. Assistant Secretary, you have laid it out, I know 
you have said it multiple times, but I want to break it down 
into four categories of what we have heard here as problematic. 
I think it is a little bit challenging to parse it out because 
of the timelines, because of the history, so I really want to 
break this down. And if you would please, even if it is 
repeating things you have said, if you could kind of put it in 
these four categories:
    (1) We have identified there has been leadership, staffing, 
and culture issues amongst the faculty. How have those been 
addressed? Leadership, staffing, faculty?
    (2) institutional controls. How are we dealing with the 
issues that have been identified around waste, fraud, and 
abuse, and the management of Federal resources?
    (3) student supports. What has been done to address not 
only sexual assault but also student complaints in general?
    And I think obviously, from the conversation here today, 
(4) what is the Department of the Interior, your hallway, and 
BIE doing to ensure that there is effective communication to 
the students, to the school, and to the public that you are 
taking this issue seriously and you are addressing these 
issues?
    So, if you could please go in each of those categories, I 
would really appreciate it.
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Congresswoman, I will try to do it 
in a minute and a half.
    With leadership, as I have indicated, bringing stability to 
that position on campus. Also within the BIE's leadership, 
because turnover in the agency that operates it harms or does 
not help. So, we have been trying to build that up. And I think 
as we have seen, we have had a president now for nearly 2 full 
years, which is progress at Haskell.
    Institutional controls, again, as I have tried to indicate, 
that starts with me and my direct communication with leadership 
at the BIE and with Haskell. It also starts with, or it follows 
from there, making sure that there are very clear objectives 
and guidance for our faculty and staff and understanding what 
their jobs are and what we expect of them.
    With student support at No. 3, one of the first things we 
did after we got the independent report back was to put in 
place the campus advocate coordinator. That relates to sexual 
assault and other things that might fall under Title IX.
    But again, also student support, I will say, out of 
frustration and out of candor, that includes making sure that 
our leadership at Haskell has leadership control of the 
university, and that these factions and cliques that have 
formed on campus are not dragging students into their disputes, 
which I think we have seen from some of these investigative 
reports.
    And I believe, Congresswoman, you said that you want to 
know what we are doing or what I am doing. As I have said, I 
have visited campus several times. I intend to visit again in 
the fall to meet with student leadership, meet with faculty to 
discuss some of these things, because it cannot be easy to be a 
Haskell community member and be watching this right now, and 
hearing this stuff. And I want to get onto campus and talk with 
folks. But more importantly, to hear directly from them.
    And I want to add that I have spent a lot of time at 
Haskell, on campus, in the stands, walking the cemetery. I have 
a young member of my family who starts in the fall. I have had 
interns in my office from Haskell. This is a place I care 
about. And it is hard to make that connection when I am in 
Washington, DC, and you are watching in Lawrence, Kansas. But I 
want to make sure that I am sending that signal through our own 
staff but directly to students. And I am going to be back on 
campus again this fall to do that.
    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you. And Mr. Chairman, I will just say 
this, that as we welcome students back to campus, we do want to 
assure them that it is a safe place, that it is a place where 
they will have fantastic educational opportunities, where they 
will thrive and be able to take their education forward, and 
that we are taking these issues very seriously, all the way to 
the top, to the Secretary, the Assistant Secretary, and as you 
heard on both sides of the aisle here, in Congress. And also to 
say, happy beginning of school.
    And with that, I will yield back and go vote.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you.
    Secretary Newland, Dr. Graham describes in his testimony 
how background checks for Haskell board of regents required by 
Federal law, required by Federal law, had not been performed in 
10 years or more, and in some cases even longer. When did you 
first become aware of the last of the background checks that 
had occurred at the board of regents at Haskell?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Chairman. I am not aware of 
background investigations or the outcomes or the process for 
any individual.
    Dr. Gosar. OK. So, now, have regular background checks been 
instituted at Haskell since Dr. Graham raised these concerns? 
And how often are they conducted?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Chairman. I cannot speak to Dr. 
Graham's allegations or assertions. What I can tell you is that 
my expectation is our requirements related to background checks 
are followed and I am not aware of any issues with that.
    Dr. Gosar. Mr. Elliott, what is the process used to 
determine whether or not a case is undertaken by the Office of 
the Inspector General?
    Mr. Elliott. We look at a number of different factors. 
Preliminarily, we determine whether or not there is a very 
specific nexus to a program, operation, office, bureau within 
the Department of the Interior. Then we look at who the subject 
is of that allegation. What is their level within the 
Department or within their assigned bureau? We also look at the 
substance of the allegation. If it is criminal in nature, we 
are more likely to investigate because of the role that we play 
having that kind of jurisdiction over Department of the 
Interior employees.
    If what we identify is predominantly what we would consider 
to be a management grievance or an issue best managed by 
management in place in that program or office, those are the 
types of complaints that we would refer to a bureau. And that 
is essentially what we did here.
    As you have heard, a lot of the allegations were what we 
would call finger pointing from different individuals within 
Haskell that ultimately appeared to us to be as described 
factions of staff not getting along with each other. The Office 
of Inspector General is not in a position to step in and 
essentially address those types of management issues, and that 
is why we routinely refer those matters back to the Department.
    Dr. Gosar. Where did you go to school, Mr. Elliott?
    Mr. Elliott. Where did I go to school?
    Dr. Gosar. Yes.
    Mr. Elliott. My undergraduate is from a state college in 
northern Vermont, and I went to graduate school at the 
University of New Haven in Connecticut.
    Dr. Gosar. Did you see any of this kind of stuff happening 
in your time in school?
    Mr. Elliott. To be honest, Chairman, I do not necessarily 
know, given the number of years it has been since I was at 
those universities, that it is necessarily relevant to the 
discussion.
    What I can say is we certainly recognized that, in 
receiving 68 complaints in a relatively short period of time 
about Haskell University, as a small component under the larger 
umbrella of the entire Department of the Interior, that it was 
critical that we hand that to those we thought were in the best 
position to address it. And we also felt that it was important 
for us to monitor how those allegations were being dealt with. 
So, I think that is really the framework that we looked at 
here, that certainly there were enough indicators that this 
needed to be addressed and we needed to have oversight of how 
it was being addressed.
    Dr. Gosar. I am glad you could stay on it. Mr. Newland, I 
am one of these people that it is about quality, not quantity. 
So, real quickly, tell me what your vision for Haskell 
University is. What is your ultimate vision for that school?
    Mr. Newland. Thank you, Chairman. My vision for Haskell is 
as I think has been described by others on the Committee, is 
that it is a crown jewel in the Federal Government's system.
    Dr. Gosar. It is not right now.
    Mr. Newland. Correct.
    Dr. Gosar. So, leaders convey that conviction of what it is 
they want to have. You can dance around this all you want, but 
you have to go right at this monster.
    If you think this is a crown jewel, make it your crown 
jewel. It is frustrating to hear this over and over again, 
because it seems like it is a broken record. We heard it from 
2007, now it is back in 2024. It is going across party lines. 
Something is wrong here. And I find it shameful.
    But I think it starts with you. What is it that you see for 
the school? What is your vision? And it has to be one sentence. 
What is it? And then you make everybody conform to that. You 
have to get these people engrained that they feel the same 
passion that you do.
    It is going to take some weeding out of some people. Yep. 
Might not take a lot of money. But you have a difficult job 
here. But you also have the best job here, because you can make 
the changes.
    What I heard today, I do not want to hear any more, ever 
again. I want you to come back to this Committee and say, this 
is what we instigated, boom, boom, boom. Here is how it went, 
boom, boom, boom. And guess what? If you put those students 
first, you are going to win.
    I hope we never hear this again.
    With that, I have to go run and vote. We are going to 
adjourn for a couple of minutes here so we can get our second 
panel involved.
    I want to thank the witnesses for your testimony. And 
really give it some thought.
    We are in recess.
    [Recess.]

    Dr. Gosar. Welcome back everyone, I will now introduce our 
witnesses for our second panel, first we have Dr. Ronald 
Graham, former President of Haskell Indian Nations University, 
Lawrence, Kansas; Ms. Emily Martin, Chief Program Officer, 
National Women's Law Center, Washington, DC; and Mr. Clay 
Mayes, Head Coach, Cross Country and Running, Haskell Indian 
Nations University, Lawrence, Kansas.
    Let me remind you our little lights are kind of different. 
For the first few minutes, it is green. Then it will turn 
yellow. And when you see red, you need to wrap it up. With 
that, remember that your full testimony will be added to the 
record, so if I must, I will try to cut it off. I am now going 
to recognize Dr. Graham for his 5 minutes, thank you sir.

STATEMENT OF RONALD J. GRAHAM, FORMER PRESIDENT, HASKELL INDIAN 
              NATIONS UNIVERSITY, LAWRENCE, KANSAS

    Mr. Graham. Folks, after listening to this testimony 
earlier, I have changed my talking points a little bit, it 
angered me. I was told what the problems were and I immediately 
and unequivocally addressed those issues with action. I had 
prepared a 5-year strategic plan that I had never done before, 
outlining all the future plans of Haskell. I was rated with 
exceeds expectations to outstanding 17 out of 20 points you 
could get on an evaluation.
    Let me tell you how the Department of the Interior 
implements improvement. The first thing they did was reinstate 
the very regents that I wouldn't let come on campus without 
successful backgrounds. Two of those regents were felons, let 
me rephrase it, are felons, and not just felons, violent 
felons. One was for domestic violence for beating his wife, 
another one had just been arrested here recently for attempted 
murder and arson.
    These are the regents that you want to put on campus for 
the safety of our students? The other improvement they 
implemented was the ethics violator that was mentioned earlier. 
There was no investigation done on her, matter of fact, she's 
serving today as the acting Vice President at Haskell.
    These things need to stop. Something's terribly wrong at 
the Bureau of Indian Education, and something is terribly wrong 
at Haskell Indian Nations University and the Bureau of Indian 
Education. I mean, it began long before I arrived, I uncovered 
it, I reported it, and I was fired for it. It continues after I 
left, and all indications are it still continuing to this day.
    Humbly, I am here today at your invitation to talk about 
BIE and Haskell, Chairman Foxx, Chairman Westerman, and all 
members of both committees, thank you for the opportunity of 
bringing me here to be able to tell my story. You are the first 
people I have gotten to tell this story to, I have had all 
these doors kicked in my face.
    I am an enrolled member of the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of 
Oklahoma, 2019 BIE posted the position of President on USA 
Jobs. I applied, February 21, 2020, and the same day I was 
offered a position. Tony Dearman immediately gave me his 
marching orders, put me to work. I started working on the 
strategic plan, I worked on other things like retention. I am 
putting all these things together before I even get to the 
campus.
    He also told me when I was sitting there my biggest 
challenge at Haskell would be dealing with a runaway faculty, 
let me rephrase that again, when I hit campus, I would be 
dealing with a runaway faculty, and at that time I didn't know 
what he meant. I didn't even slightly comprehend those words or 
what was going on, I just knew there were problems that I had 
to resolve when I got there.
    Listen, I was one of those GS-15's that was put down here 
today. My background has over two decades of education, I have 
a law enforcement background, a counter terrorism background, a 
military background, and I have served in combat zones at the 
classified levels. That is what they hired.
    The first thing I did was I created the 5-year strategic 
plan, I did it with 40 faculty members, I had everyone working 
for me and with me and different committees and we met weekly, 
the second was establishing that chain of command, the third 
was the chronic issue of student retention, and I developed a 
plan and I increased that student retention and student 
population with what I was doing with all of the projects I was 
putting forward.
    May 11 is when I actually arrived on campus and immediately 
upon arriving, I learned I had some serious problems, COVID was 
raging, I had the regents that I wanted to meet and I contacted 
Shamblin to meet those regents because I know the importance of 
trustees. I have worked with boards of trustees in other 
universities, in other colleges, so I know the importance to 
them, the guidance of a president and what they do for 
accreditation, you must have them for accreditation.
    I talked to Shamblin and I requested when were the 
backgrounds done? And he blew me off, and basically, I pressed 
the issue until I got the answers I needed, folks.
    Dr. Gosar. We are going to have to wrap this up.
    Mr. Graham. OK, sir.

    [The prepared statement of Dr. Graham follows:]
 Prepared Statement of Dr. Ronald J. Graham, Former President, Haskell 
                 Indian Nations University (2020-2021)

    I am Dr. Ronald Graham, a proud member of the Eastern Shawnee of 
Oklahoma Tribe.
    Members of the Committees. Thank you for the opportunity to testify 
today regarding the ongoing fraud, waste, abuse, and criminal conduct 
at Haskell Indian Nations University (HINU).
    I come before you today with a deep sense of responsibility to shed 
light on serious existing and continuing corruption and violations of 
rights and accountability issues at HINU. These violations affect 
students, workers, and the public, and they undermine the institution's 
responsibility to the governmental agencies tasked with its oversight 
and donors who have made significant financial contributions.
    Before I proceed, I must express my profound concern about 
potential retaliation for my testimony here today. I have already 
experienced previous instances of retaliation, which have dramatically 
affected my career as a college administrator, my personal life, the 
safety of my administration, faculty, students and the public. I 
respectfully request assurances from this Subcommittee that I will be 
protected from any form of retaliation or adverse action because of my 
testimony here today.
    I understand that by testifying, I am performing my civic duty and 
contributing to the essential oversight function of Congress. However, 
I also recognize that my testimony may place me at personal and 
professional risk. Therefore, I ask that this Subcommittee and Congress 
use all available means to ensure my protection.
    With these concerns noted, I am prepared to provide full and 
truthful testimony about the issues at HINU, in the hope that my 
disclosures will lead to necessary reforms and accountability to break 
the cycle of corruption and retaliation that currently exists at HINU 
and rebuild its public trust.''
Summary of Testimony--Background

    My career includes military service, local law enforcement, and 
education positions at multiple universities.
    My tenure as the 8th President of Haskell began on February 21, 
2020. I considered this appointment the pinnacle of my 20-plus years of 
service as an educator, and, very personally, I was honored to follow 
in my father's footsteps as he was an educator.
On the Job at Haskell

    When I was hired, I was cautioned by BIE Director Tony Dearman and 
BIE HR Director Jackie Shamblin that there were chronic problems facing 
Haskell involving a ``runaway faculty'' and other institutional issues 
that continued to plague this institution.
    I came on board ready to face the challenges and make the 
challenging decisions to enable Haskell to become an outstanding 
institution of hiring learning for the American Indian community. From 
the moment I stepped on campus on May 11, 2020, during the COVID 19 
Pandemic, I worked hand-in-hand with BIE and the Haskell 
Administration, faculty and Alumni to build a better Haskell. My 
success in this regard was evidenced by my positive BIE Annual 
Evaluation, December 2020, by Director Dearman who rated my performance 
as ``Exceeding Expectations'' and above.
    On January 1, 2021, to carry out the directives given to me by BIE 
Director Dearman, I hired the Vice President of Academic Affairs, Dr. 
Melanie Daniel who immediately implemented my policy directives and 
communicated the same to administrators, faculty and staff through 
regularly-schedule weekly meetings with faculty.
Disturbing Information Surfaces: Money--Irregularities Reported

    From January to March 2021, I received information as to some of 
the problem areas at Haskell, including gross mismanagement of 
donations ($1+ Million unaccounted for); payroll fraud (some 350+ 
counts in a single year), abuse of authority and other irregularities.
    Each of these problem areas were immediately disclosed upon 
discovery to my immediate supervisor, BIE Director Dearman and his 
surrogate, HR Director Shamblin.
Retaliation/Prohibited Personnel Practices

    On April 1, 2021, the Haskell Faculty Senate voted ``no 
confidence'' under highly questionable circumstances. Within days, 
Dearman and Shamblin initiated a series of retaliatory actions. Both, 
utilizing their respective positions and control over the assets and 
personnel of the BIE assembled a biased and predetermined investigative 
committee under BIE Chief Academic Officer, Tamarah Pfeiffer to ``. . . 
examine allegations that, inter alia, Ronald Graham, Ed.D., President 
of Haskell Indian Nations University (Haskell or HINU) engaged in 
misconduct . . . '' The purpose of this investigative committee was 
never disclosed to me and I was never given an opportunity to address 
the specific allegations brought against me. This surreptitious report 
was kept secret until the Agency disclosed it in a recent MSPB 
proceeding.
    This report was utilized by Tamarah Pfeiffer to terminate me 36 
days later, on May 7, 2021, and Pfeiffer was named President of 
Haskell.
    At the end of the day, my tenure at Haskell revealed the major flaw 
at Haskell--the systemic coverup of existing and on-going fraudulent 
actions by those in power, which block and prevent Haskell from 
carrying out its basic goal: Putting American Indian Students First and 
me from carrying out my duties of transparency, accountability and 
protection of Haskell Students, Employees, affiliated American Indian 
communities and the general public.
Supporting Statement

    As I come before you today, I have a case pending at the Merit 
System Protection Board (MSPB) asking to be reinstated as President, 
Haskell Indian Nations University. After I was terminated as President, 
BIE posted the position on USAJOBS web site and I reapplied. I was 
considered eligible, but was denied an interview. Due process failures 
engulfed my termination.
    Notwithstanding serial retaliation, absence of due process and a 
long list of schemes, tricks and devices by numerous faculty members 
and administrators, I was--and today am--committed to our young 
American Indian students--our next generation of American Indian 
leaders. I seek reinstatement to further the mission of making Haskell 
a first-class educational institution and because our students deserve 
a whole lot better.
Hired as President--Initial Marching Orders

    On February 21, 2020, following the second of two interviews, BIE 
Director, Tony Dearman offered the position of President of Haskell to 
me, and on that same day, directed me to prepare a Five-Year Strategic 
Plan for Haskell. He also told me that my biggest challenge would be to 
deal with what he called a ``Runaway Faculty'' at Haskell and 
specifically directed me to update personnel (Chain of Command) policy. 
And finally, he identified student retention and student population 
growth as a major priority.
On the Job--Addressing the Issues with Action

    I approached my duties as President with the intent and commitment 
to Put Haskell Indigenous Students First.
    My vision for Haskell included improving our current degree 
programs and, per Dearman's priority recommendation adding programs to 
increase enrollment and add programs to meet the needs of our 
stakeholders in Indian Country; to protect our students health, safety 
and welfare while in our care on campus; updating and creating policies 
and procedures to address system-wide fraud, waste, and criminal 
conduct on campus; and to build Haskell into the leading educational 
institution for Indigenous peoples here in the US.
    On May 11, 2020, my first day on campus my position as President, 
began as COVID exploded into a global crisis. By direction of the 
Interior Department and BIE, Haskell closed its campus, and we were 
operating in a ``crisis'' environment. Extraordinary challenges 
existed. One example: the computer system at Haskell was so antiquated, 
that faculty was unable to communicate with Haskell. Students were 
unable to do the same. Distance learned was crippled. Emergency funding 
was obtained to enable the University, its faculty and students to 
communicate with one another.
BIE Evaluated My Performance Exceeds Expections

    I progressed at Haskell for the first nine months without 
significant issues. On December 08, 2020, BIE Director Dearman issued 
my first Performance Evaluation in which I was graded, ``Exceeds 
Expectations'' in four separate categories and awarded a cash bonus. 
Significantly, in his Evaluation, Director Dearman expressly identified 
and cited, 51 specific accomplishments. The highest grading was given 
for my performance involving COVID. Inexplicably, several months later, 
my termination declared my work on COVID to be a failure and 
termination justification without explanation of the obvious 
contradiction and/or absent any discussion.
DISTURBING NEW INFORMATION SURFACES

    My relationship at Haskell with Director Dearman eroded shortly 
after I reported various instances of fraud, waste and abuse during the 
January to March 2021 period.

    Beginning late December and January 2021, I learned:

     That a $500,000 contract was being mismanaged.

     From Haskell Alumni, I was informed that, as much as $1 
            million of donated funds was unaccounted for.

     By an anonymous call, I was told that a member of the 
            Haskell staff was engaged in ethical misconduct.

     From a senior member of the Haskell Administrative staff, 
            I learned that 14 instructors were submitting pay vouchers 
            for teaching a full load, Over the course of a year, that 
            amounted to more than 350 counts of alleged payroll fraud. 
            The Haskell payroll ledger, for instance revealed that in 
            one instance, an instructor was ``teaching'' four classes 
            as required, but the fourth had but a single student 
            enrolled.

    In each instance, within 24 hours of learning of specific instances 
of allegations of fraud, waste, abuse, and other criminal conduct, each 
was reported to BIE Director Dearman and HR Director Shamblin as 
required by law, policy and/or procedure. With their concurrence, 
appropriate and necessary reviews, audits and/or investigations were 
requested and, to the best of my knowledge, initiated. Later, I learned 
that no affirmative actions were taken to address any of these issues 
after my termination on May 7, 2021.
Specific Issues--Haskell Board of Regents

    A robust and active Board of Regents, based on my experience, was 
critical for any University President. As soon as I arrived at Haskell, 
in May 2020, and only after pressing Shamblin for an explanation, he 
revealed that the Regents only met twice a year and the Board had an 
undisclosed problem--a major one.
    Background checks for the Haskell Board of Regents, required by 
Federal law, had not been performed in 10 years and, in some cases, 
longer. Criminal background checks are required per 25 CFR 63 and BIE 
personnel security regulations to ensure the safety and welfare of 
persons on campus and at all BIE controlled schools.
    I immediately banned all Board members from entering campus until 
they successfully passed background checks. As a result, I was denied 
the benefit of a Board's support, particularly acute during the COVID 
shutdown. Shamblin did not agree but stopped short of prohibiting my 
decision. Later in 2020, the new investigations revealed three Regents 
who failed to pass, at least one of whom was a convicted felon. Four 
passed the background checks, and two were still in progress upon my 
wrongful termination. One who did not pass remained on the Board after 
BIE terminated me.
    The issues involving background checks were repeatedly raised with 
Dearman and Shamblin numerous times. To protect Haskell's university 
accreditation, I preemptively contacted the Higher Learning Commission 
(HLC), Haskell's Accrediting agency, to ensure our accreditation would 
be protected. I was accused of putting Haskell's accreditation at risk 
by the Haskell Faculty Senate four months after Haskell hailed my 
initiative with HLC was considered one of the 51 Accomplishments in my 
Annual Evaluation.
Payroll Fraud

    To prepare for the Fall 2021 semester, Haskell's Registrar provided 
my office with projections for classes, instructors and students, a 
normal and typical management action. In December 2020, at my request, 
the Registrar prepared a report containing course loads for each 
faculty member. The policy governing faculty course loads at Haskell 
required every faculty member to teach at least four courses, or 12 
credit hours each semester. The Registrar's report revealed 14 faculty 
members who taught less than the required minimum but collected the 
salary for teaching a full course load.
    As Federal employees, we were paid bi-weekly. That amounted, during 
my tenure, approximately 350+ violations or payroll fraud.
    An existing process for faculty members to obtain ``Course 
Release'' required approval from the Haskell Vice-President of 
Academics which was, to the best of my knowledge, never requested by 
any faculty member.
    Director Dearman and HR Director Shamblin both were immediately 
informed of these financial discrepancies based on falsified Haskell 
payroll records. Shamblin requested the records and documentation be 
provided to his office and advised that the over-payments had to be 
reimbursed. Those records were assembled and immediately provided to 
his office.
    I reported the on-going violations to Director Dearman. As 
indicated, for the one year I reviewed, the payroll malfeasance 
amounted to more than 350 false document submissions. I requested that 
Shamblin and Dearman authorize an investigation immediately. To the 
best of my knowledge, that investigation had yet to commence by the 
time of my wrongful termination.
Unaccounted for Financial Donations

    During the first week of March 2021, I met with an alumnus and 
former Board of Regents President who described how, before I arrived 
at Haskell, four Tribal Nations donated over $1 million, possibly up to 
$7 million, for the Haskell football program. I was told the former 
President terminated Haskell's football program after donated funds 
were received, but those funds, according to what I was told, remained 
unaccounted for. The alumnus advised that the former President called 
upon the Lawrence Police Department, which then executed a search 
warrant at his home and confiscated those records.
Reported Unaccounted for Funds, Initiated Internal Investigation

    I immediately reported the information to Dearman and Shamblin. 
This matter became the subject of numerous discussions. I recommended 
that BIE request assistance from the FBI. At Haskell, I directed 
finance and grants staff to conduct a review. I began my internal 
review but did not locate the funds or a paper trail regarding them 
before my wrongful termination. Whether or not Dearman and Shamblin 
actually initiated an investigation is not known to me. If an 
investigation was ordered, all indications are that it was dropped 
after my termination Shamblin did not investigate before I departed 
from Haskell.
Retaliation for Prohibited Personnel Practices

    At the time of my respective disclosures, I did not know my reports 
of wrongdoing were met with silent, but defiant, opposition from BIE 
administrators Shamblin and Dearman, who espoused their support for me 
to my face and after certain faculty members became upset, than 
knowingly and willfully took affirmative steps to undercut my position 
as President due to my actions to report and correct illegal activity.
    My professional dream began to turn into a nightmare
Death Threats

    During this same January-to-March 2021, when wrong-doing was being 
reported, I received two death threats, both my telephone. I reported 
both to Director Dearman and HR Director Shamblin. Their response: they 
did nothing.
Biased Investigation Ordered to Investigate Me for Reporting Wrong-
        Doing

    On or about April 1, 2021, BIE assembled an investigative committee 
under BIE Chief Administrative Officer, Tamarah Pfeiffer to ``. . . 
examine allegations that, inter alia, Ronald Graham, Ed.D., President 
of Haskell Indian Nations University (Haskell or HINU) engaged in 
misconduct . . .'' The purpose of this investigative committee was 
never disclosed to me and I was never given an opportunity to address 
the specific allegations brought against me. This surreptitious report 
was kept secret until the Agency disclosed it in a recent MSPB 
proceeding in July 2024.
Termination--One Hour's Notice, But Not By My Supervisor

    On May 07, 2024, without notice, discussion, or any due process, I 
received a hand-delivered fax copy of a termination letter signed, not 
by Tony Dearman, the BIE Director and my direct supervisor, but by 
Tamara Pfeiffer, BIE's Chief Academic Officer in Albuquerque, who is 
not in my Chain of Command. Pfeiffer met me on one occasion, April 12, 
2021, interviewed me but then excluded every single statement and 
explanation. She then prepared a slanted report which I saw for the 
first time only a few weeks before this hearing.
    On May 7, 2021, without a single discussion and without any notice, 
I was abruptly terminated and ordered off campus within the hour. Some 
of my personal effects remain unreturned. I was smeared in the media 
and subject to a vicious whisper campaign, I have suffered personally 
and professionally.
Reported Misconduct--Reports to BIE Ignored, Unanswered Termination 
        Followed

    BIE terminated my employment after I informed, alerted and 
disclosed to the Director and HR Director serial violations of law, 
regulations, and policies at Haskell. Despite the egregious nature of 
the numerous issues at Haskell, my pleas for assistance went 
unanswered. I lost my position as punishment for my assertiveness in 
identifying and trying to correct the fraud, waste, abuse, and other 
criminal conduct
Putting American Indian Students First

    After my termination, Haskell readvertised the position. I applied. 
In that application, I included a ``Supplemental Statement to Accompany 
Application for President, Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence, 
KS.'' That statement is attached to my testimony today. The concluding 
paragraph reads:

        ``Notwithstanding retaliation, serial violation of my rights, 
        absence of due process, and a willful cover-up of financial 
        misconduct by numerous faculty members, I remain committed to 
        our American Indian Students--First, Foremost and Always. These 
        students--these young men and women deserve far better. My goal 
        was to rebuild am prepared to resume that effort, and, because 
        of the students, submit my application to serve as President.''

                                 ______
                                 

    Dr. Gosar. Now, I would like to recognize Ms. Martin with 
her 5 minutes.

  STATEMENT OF EMILY MARTIN, CHIEF PROGRAM OFFICER, NATIONAL 
               WOMEN'S LAW CENTER, WASHINGTON, DC

    Ms. Martin. Thank you Chairs, Ranking Members and members 
of the Joint Subcommittees. I am Emily Martin, Chief Program 
Officer of The National Women's Law Center, and I appreciate 
the opportunity to testify today. The National Women's Law 
Center was founded over 50 years ago, the same year that Title 
IX was enacted. Since then, we have been committed to ending 
sexual assault, sex harassment, and other forms of sex 
discrimination in schools.
    Study after study shows that students in college experience 
extremely high rates of sexual assault. More than one in four 
women are sexually assaulted in college, and Indigenous 
students experience sexual assault at a higher rate than any 
other racial demographic.
    But students often tell us they are discouraged from 
reporting sexual assault and harassment to their schools. When 
they do report they tell us they are met with delays, that the 
system is stacked against them, that the trauma they experience 
both from their assault and from going through the reporting 
and investigatory process stays with them.
    Some are pushed out of school entirely by the ordeal, at 
the federally operated educational program Haskell Indian 
Nations University is legally required to protect its students 
from sex discrimination including sexual assault. And Haskell's 
leaders, like all school leaders, should commit to preventing 
and remedying sexual assault, guided by Title IX's requirements 
and safeguards.
    And specifically the new, recently finalized Title IX 
regulations promise to restore robust protections for student 
survivors. They provide a solid foundation for schools crafting 
strategies to end harassment and sexual violence. I don't have 
time today to talk about all the steps that schools should take 
but I want to highlight a few.
    First, schools should focus on prevention, educating 
students about what sex harassment is and how no one ever asks 
for it, no matter what they wear, or what they drink, or how 
they act. Schools should also teach bystander intervention to 
disrupt harassment, to understand how prevalent sexual violence 
is on campus and whether students feel supported when they 
report harassment.
    Schools should conduct campus climate surveys; these 
surveys help schools better understand what their students are 
experiencing and how their policies are working in practice.
    Schools also must ensure that employees are trained in how 
to appropriately respond to sexual assault, including 
understanding what it is, what the school's policies are for 
handling reports and the biases that they may need to unlearn 
when responding. And when survivors report, they must be 
treated seriously. Students deserve a prompt and effective 
response, whether the assault took place on campus or off 
campus, they must never be retraumatized by indifference or 
worse, blamed by those from whom they seek help.
    Instead schools should offer supportive measures that 
preserve and restore survivors access to education as Title IX 
requires. This could be as simple as letting a survivor change 
a class to avoid their assailant or offering counseling, or 
giving a survivor an opportunity to improve grades that have 
fallen as a result of the assault. These supports should be 
offered regardless of whether a survivor wants to have their 
complaint formally investigated by schools or by the police.
    Schools should also offer students the option to 
participate in restorative practices which have roots in 
Indigenous communities and traditions and center the victims 
needs to repair the harm caused by the wrong doer.
    If a survivor opts for a formal disciplinary school 
investigation, instead, the process should be fair, prompt, and 
equitable. Sexual violence complaints should never be held to a 
higher standard than other student misconduct complaints.
    The new Title IX regulations make clear schools must not 
make it more difficult to discipline a student for raping 
someone than for punching someone. And schools must provide 
strong protection against retaliation. Student survivors were 
often blamed or punished after coming forward. Only a small 
minority of victims report sexual violence.
    Retaliation against those who do ensures the other stays 
silent. These protections are important for all survivors and 
particularly for black, brown, and Indigenous women, who are 
especially likely to experience suspicion, indifference, or 
blame when they report.
    And my last recommendation which underlies all the rest, 
schools should listen to survivors and to the organizations 
that serve survivors, especially organizations that serve the 
communities their students come from. In the case of Haskell, 
that means Indigenous serving survivor advocacy organizations.
    It is time for schools to answer survivors courageous calls 
for accountability and culture change, and I will note in 
closing that law makers have an important role to play too. And 
on that front, it is deeply disappointing the House Majority 
recently voted to disapprove the new Title IX regulations that 
strengthen survivor protections and support.
    Survivors deserve much more, as do schools which need the 
clarity provided by the regulations in order to take the 
critical steps that I have named. Thank you for the opportunity 
to be here today, and I look forward to your questions.

    [The prepared statement of Ms. Martin follows:]
Prepared Statement of Emily J. Martin, Chief Program Officer, National 
                           Women's Law Center

I. Introduction

    The National Women's Law Center (``NWLC'') is a nonprofit 
organization that has worked since 1972 to combat sex discrimination 
and expand opportunities for women and girls in every facet of their 
lives, including education. NWLC is committed to eradicating all forms 
of sex discrimination in school, specifically including discrimination 
against pregnant and parenting students, LGBTQI+ students, and students 
who are vulnerable to multiple forms of discrimination, such as Black 
and brown girls and disabled girls. This work includes a deep 
commitment to eradicating sex harassment, including sexual assault, as 
a barrier to educational success. We equip students with the tools to 
advocate for their own rights at school, assist policymakers in 
strengthening protections against sex harassment and other forms of sex 
discrimination, and litigate on behalf of students whose schools fail 
to adequately address their reports of sex harassment. Founded the same 
year Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 was enacted, NWLC has 
participated in all major Title IX cases before the Supreme Court as 
counsel \1\ or amici.
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    \1\ E.g., Jackson v. Birmingham Bd. of Educ., 544 U.S. 167 (2005); 
Davis v. Monroe Cnty Bd. of Educ., 526 U.S. 629 (1999).
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    As attorneys representing those who have been harmed by sexual 
violence and other forms of sex harassment, we know that too often when 
students seek help from their schools to address the harassment or 
assault, they experience retaliation, including being pushed out of 
school altogether. We also know how important it is for schools to take 
action to prevent harassment and to intervene promptly and effectively 
when students are sexually harassed, before it escalates in severity or 
leaves students no longer feeling safe in school.
    The sexual violence that students at Haskell Indian Nations 
University (HINU) report having had to endure without meaningful 
support or response from their school is precisely the kind of 
discrimination NWLC has long been dedicated to fighting. When schools 
fail to take steps to prevent and address sexual assault and other 
forms of harassment, they deeply traumatize students, jeopardize their 
education, put other students at risk of victimization, and fall short 
of their legal and moral obligations to protect students from 
discrimination.
    Thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony to the 
Subcommittees to explain how schools should seek to prevent sexual 
assault and other forms of sex harassment, should provide support to 
students who experience such harassment, and should implement 
procedures to promptly and effectively respond to harassment, so that 
no student's education is derailed by it.
II. Campus Sexual Assault Is Common Yet Underreported, and Survivors 
        Are Often Ignored or Punished Instead of Being Helped.

    Students in college experience high rates of sexual harassment and 
sexual assault. More than one in four women, more than one in five 
transgender and gender-nonconforming students, and one in 15 men are 
sexually assaulted during their time in college.\2\ In addition, one in 
seven women, one in 10 men, and more than one in five transgender and 
gender-nonconforming students experience dating violence in college, 
while one in 10 women, one in 33 men, and more than one in six 
transgender and gender-nonconforming students are victims of 
stalking.\3\
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    \2\ David Cantor et al., Association of American Universities, 
Report on the AAU Campus Climate Survey on Sexual Assault and 
Misconduct ix (Oct. 15, 2019), https://www.aau.edu/key-issues/campus-
climate-and-safety/aau-campus-climate-survey-2019.
    \3\ Id. at 52, 54.
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    Native American/Indigenous college students in particular 
experience high rates of sexual harassment and assault. In a 2019 
survey of students at 27 colleges and universities, 43% of Indigenous 
women and men and 39% of transgender, non-binary, and gender 
nonconforming Indigenous students reported experiencing sexual 
harassment during college.\4\ Moreover, Indigenous students reported 
experiencing sexual assault at a higher rate than any other racial 
demographic surveyed.\5\
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    \4\ Id. at A7-83, A7-88.
    \5\ Id. at A7-36 (14.7% of white students, 12.7% of Black students, 
6.9% of Asian students, 18.7% of American Indian and Alaskan Native 
students, 11.9% of Native Hawaiian students, and 14.5% of other or 
multiracial students reported experiencing sexual assault).
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    Despite its prevalence, sexual assault is greatly underreported.\6\ 
Only 12% of college women who are sexually assaulted reported it to 
their school.\7\ Students often do not report sexual assault to their 
schools because they believe their abuse will not be taken seriously, 
because they are embarrassed or ashamed, because they think the no one 
would believe them, or because they fear retaliation, including 
negative academic, social, and professional consequences.\8\ Common 
stereotypes that blame victims for sexual assault because of how they 
acted or dressed, or because they drank alcohol, only exacerbate 
underreporting. Survivors may also be unwilling to report to law 
enforcement because they believe the criminal legal process is unlikely 
to lead to meaningful accountability or helpful solutions, or even 
because they fear being retraumatized, abused, or otherwise victimized 
by police officers when reporting.\9\ This fear may be especially 
pronounced for Indigenous students, as Indigenous people are killed by 
police at a higher rate than any other racial group--five times higher 
than white people and three times higher than Black people.\10\ 
Perceived and actual non-responsiveness by law enforcement to violence 
against Indigenous women may also lead to Indigenous women's reluctance 
to report sexual assault to police.\11\
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    \6\ Id. at 59.
    \7\ Id. at A7-27, A7-30.
    \8\ Id. at A7-27
    \9\ Because survivors are so frequently disbelieved when reporting 
sexual assault to law enforcement, many survivors have faced criminal 
charges--including for filing a false report--when seeking help. See 
Lisa Avalos, Prosecuting Rape Victims While Rapists Run Free: The 
Consequences of Police Failure to Investigate Sex Crimes in Britain and 
the United States, 23 MICH. J. GENDER & L. 1 (2016), available at 
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/
viewcontent.cgi?article=1054&context=mjgl.
    \10\ Ted McDermott, Native people killed by police 3-5 times more 
than others, ICT (Apr. 26, 2024), https://ictnews.org/news/native-
people-killed-by-police-3-5-times-more-than-others (citing Centers for 
Disease Control and Prevention data).
    \11\ See, e.g., Peyton Cross, Governmental Inadequacies Concerning 
Missing and Murdered Native American Women in the United States, 1 
LINCOLN MEMORIAL UNIV. L. REV. 10 (2022), available at https://
digitalcommons.lmunet.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1180&context 
=lmulrev (explaining that, despite the epidemic of violence against 
Native American women, law enforcement consistently fail to investigate 
the hate rates of disappearances and murders of Native American women).
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    Unfortunately, those students who do report sexual assault to their 
schools too often face hostility because of false and offensive 
stereotypes about survivors. Schools often minimize or discount sexual 
harassment reports because of the myth that survivors are to blame for 
assault and other harassment they experience.\12\ The myth that it is 
common for women and girls to make false accusations of sexual assault 
\13\--when in fact men and boys are far more likely to be victims of 
sexual assault than to be falsely accused of it \14\--can also lead 
schools to assume that complainants are likely being less than truthful 
and to dismiss their claims. Too often, when student report, they are 
encouraged to leave school until their assailants have graduated,\15\ 
discouraged from filing formal disciplinary reports or telling others, 
and denied essential accommodations like dorm changes to allow them to 
live separately from their assailants.\16\ Survivors also sometimes 
face severe retaliation when they report, such as suspension or 
expulsion for speaking out about the abuse they faced or for fighting 
back in self-defense.\17\ Schools also often fail to protect students 
reporting sexual assault from retaliatory harassment by peers who are 
loyal to the assailant. Furthermore, women of color (especially Black 
and Indigenous women), LGBTQI+ students, and disabled students who 
report sexual harassment are especially likely to be ignored, blamed, 
or punished due to discriminatory stereotypes that label them as 
``promiscuous,'' ``deviant,'' and/or less credible.\18\
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    \12\ See e.g., Bethonie Butler, Survivors of sexual assault 
confront victim blaming on Twitter, WASH. POST (Mar. 13, 2014), https:/
/www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/03/13/survivors-
of-sexual-assault-confront-victim-blaming-on-twitter.
    \13\ David Lisak et al., False Allegations of Sexual Assault: An 
Analysis of Ten Years of Reported Cases, 16(12) VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN 
1318-1334 (2010), available at https://doi.org/10.1177/
1077801210387747.
    \14\ E.g., Tyler Kingkade, Males Are More Likely To Suffer Sexual 
Assault Than To Be Falsely Accused Of It, HUFFINGTON POST (Dec. 8, 
2014) [last updated Oct. 16, 2015], https://www.huffingtonpost.com/
2014/12/08/false-rape-accusations_n_6290380.html.
    \15\ Dana Bolger, Where Rape Gets a Pass, N.Y. DAILY NEWS (July 6, 
2014), http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/rape-pass-article-1.1854420.
    \16\ Sage Carson & Sarah Nesbitt, Know Your IX, The Cost of 
Reporting: Perpetrator Retaliation, Institutional Betrayal, and Student 
Survivor Pushout 12, 15-16, 24 (2021), https://
www.advocatesforyouth.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Know-Your-IX-2021-
Cost-of-Reporting.pdf [hereinafter KYIX Report].
    \17\ Id. at 15-16.
    \18\ Shiwali Patel, Elizabeth X. Tang, & Hunter F. Iannucci, A 
Sweep as Broad as Its Promise: 50 Years Later, We Must Amend Title IX 
to End Sex-Based Harassment in Schools, 83 LA. L. REV. 939, 961-64 
(2023), https://bit.ly/3UZYpxk.
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    When schools fail to respond promptly and effectively to sexual 
assault, survivors' educations are often derailed. When student 
survivors do not receive the appropriate support and responsiveness 
from their schools, sexual assault and other forms of harassment cause 
survivors to miss class, receive lower grades, withdraw from 
extracurricular activities, abandon majors, drop to part-time 
enrollment, drop to a two-year degree, pay extra tuition to retake 
courses, graduate late, or leave school altogether.\19\ In fact, 34 
percent of college student survivors of sexual assault withdraw from 
school.\20\
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    \19\ KYIX Report, supra note 16, at 4-9, 11.
    \20\ Cecilia Mengo & Beverly M. Black, Violence Victimization on a 
College Campus: Impact on GPA and School Dropout, 18(2) J.C. STUDENT 
RETENTION: RES., THEORY & PRAC. 234, 244 (2015), available at https://
doi.org/10.1177/1521025115584750.
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III. HINU Is Legally Required Protect Students from Sexual Harassment.

    As a federally-operated educational program, HINU is legally 
required to protect its students from sex discrimination, including sex 
harassment.\21\ Executive Order 13160 requires federally-conducted 
education programs to ``hold [themselves] to at least the same 
principles of nondiscrimination in educational opportunities as [the 
federal government] applies to the education programs and activities of 
State and local governments, and to private institutions receiving 
Federal financial assistance,'' under Title IX of the Education 
Amendments of 1972 (Title IX).\22\ Echoing Title IX, the Executive 
Order states that ``[n]o individual, on the basis of . . . sex . . . 
shall be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or 
be subjected to discrimination in, a federally conducted education or 
training program or activity.'' \23\ The Department of Justice's 
guidance on how federally-operated educational programs should comply 
with the Executive Order makes indisputable that it protects against 
harassment on the basis of sex.\24\ In short, Executive Order 13160 
requires institutions such as HINU to provide protections against 
sexual assault and other forms of sex harassment that are at least as 
robust as those required by Title IX.\25\ In addition, students at 
federally-operated schools enjoy the right to be free from sex 
harassment in their educational setting under the equal protection 
guarantee of the Constitution.\26\
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    \21\ HINU is federally owned, funded, and operated. Parrish v. 
MSPB, 485 F.3d 1359, 1360 (Fed. Cir. 2007). One federal court has held 
that a Title IX lawsuit could not proceed against HINU because the 
federal government has not waived sovereign immunity as to actions for 
money damages under Title IX. Doe H. v. Haskell Indian Nations Univ., 
266 F.Supp.3d 1277, 1282 (D. Kan. 2017). The court did not address the 
availability of injunctive relief against HINU pursuant to Title IX.
    \22\ E.O. 13160, Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Race, Sex, 
Color, National Origin, Disability, Religion, Age, Sexual Orientation, 
and Status as a Parent in Federally-conducted Education and Training 
Programs, 65 Fed. Reg. 39,775 (Sec. 1-101) (June 23, 2000) (emphasis 
added).
    \23\ Id. at Sec. 1-101, 1-102. Notably, the Executive Order's 
language is almost identical to Title IX, which says ``[n]o person in 
the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from 
participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to 
discrimination under any education program or activity receiving 
Federal financial assistance.'' 20 U.S.C. Sec. 1681. This similarity in 
language further underscores the similarity between the obligations of 
a federally-operated educational program and recipient of federal 
funding under Title IX.
    \24\ Executive Order 13160 Guidance Document: Ensuring Equal 
Opportunity in Federally-conducted Education and Training Programs, 66 
Fed. Reg. 5398, 5398 (Jan. 18, 2001).
    \25\ Id.
    \26\ See, e.g., Strickland v. United States, 32 F.4th 311, 356-59 
(4th Cir. 2022) (holding federal entities violate the Fifth Amendment's 
equal protection guarantee when they are deliberately indifferent to 
complaints of sexual harassment and when they retaliate against 
complainants for discriminatory reasons); Fitzgerald v Barnstable 
School Committee, 555 U.S. 246, 257-58 (2009) (holding the Equal 
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is violated when a 
student experiences sex harassment as a result of municipal custom, 
policy or practice); Murrell v. School District No. 1, 186 F.3d 1238, 
1250 (10th Cir. 1999) (holding principal and teachers violate the Equal 
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment when they are 
deliberately indifferent to sex harassment of a student by another 
student).
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IV. To Comply with Federal Law and Enable Their Students to Succeed and 
        Thrive, Schools Should Commit Themselves to Preventing and 
        Effectively Responding to Sexual Assault and Other Sex 
        Harassment.

    Taking sex harassment seriously is a necessary part of ensuring 
that students can learn and thrive. It is also a legal obligation for 
both federally-operated and federally-funded educational institutions. 
The Biden administration's recent changes to the Department of 
Education's Title IX regulations provide a clear framework and robust 
foundation for schools in regard to prevention efforts, grievance 
procedures, and support given to students in the wake of 
victimization.\27\ Specifically, the Biden regulations strengthen 
protections for student survivors by facilitating their ability to 
report and get help for sex harassment and assault from their schools, 
by requiring equitable and fair school grievance procedures to address 
sex harassment, and by requiring schools to respond promptly and 
effectively to sexual assault and other forms of sex harassment. The 
requirements set out in those regulations inform the recommendations 
below. (While some courts have temporarily blocked the federal 
government from enforcing the new rule against schools in certain 
states, nothing prevents schools in any state or district from 
voluntarily complying with the rule.)
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    \27\ Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Sex in Education Programs or 
Activities Receiving Federal Financial Assistance, 89 Fed. Reg. 33474 
(finalized Apr. 29, 2024, effective Aug. 1, 2024) (to be codified at 34 
C.F.R. pt. 106), https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/04/29/
2024-07915/nondiscrimination-on-the-basis-of-sex-in-education-programs-
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    In developing their policies and procedures to address sexual 
assault and harassment, schools should consult with student survivors 
and advocacy organizations that provide direct services to, or 
otherwise support, survivors of sexual violence. This engagement should 
specifically include organizations that serve the same communities that 
students are part of, including organizations that serve Black, brown, 
and Indigenous survivors, LGBTQI+ survivors, women and girls, and 
disabled survivors.
A. Schools should adopt strategies to prevent sex harassment.

    A comprehensive program to address sex harassment must include 
strategies to prevent harassment from occurring in the first place. To 
that end, schools should train students and staff on sex harassment; 
conduct regular climate surveys; prioritize the creation of a safe and 
inclusive learning community; and adopt policies to protect 
transgender, nonbinary, and intersex students.
1. Train students and staff on sex harassment.

    Schools should provide training to all students and staff on how to 
recognize, report, and respond to sex harassment, and about consent and 
healthy relationships. This recommendation is consistent with the Biden 
administration's Title IX regulations, which require all school staff 
to be trained on recognizing and reporting sex discrimination.\28\ It 
is also consistent with research showing that offering comprehensive 
sex education that emphasizes consent and healthy relationship dynamics 
for students from an early age creates a lower risk of sexual or dating 
violence, because it better equips students to identify unsafe sexual 
behavior and unhealthy relationship dynamics.\29\ Trainings should also 
ensure employees understand how trauma may impact survivors' responses 
to assault differently and that there is no single way in which 
survivors act and present. Trainings should also uncover and address 
any biases employees may have when receiving reports so that they do 
not respond to survivors in harmful ways. In addition, trainings should 
include bystander intervention strategies that give both students and 
staff the tools and confidence to recognize and interrupt harassing 
behavior by peers and colleagues.
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    \28\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.8(d) (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \29\ John S. Santelli et al., Does sex education before college 
protect students from sexual assault in college? (2018), https://
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6235267/; Medeline Schneider & 
Jennifer S. Hirsh, Comprehensive sexuality education as a primary 
prevention strategy for sexual violence perpetration, 21 Trauma, 
Violence, & Abuse 439 (2018), https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/
articles/PMC6283686/; Rebekah Rollston, Comprehensive Sex Education as 
Violence Prevention, Harvard Medical Center for Primary Care (May 29, 
2020), https://info.primarycare.hms.harvard.edu/perspectives/articles/
sexual-education-violence-prevention.
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2. Conduct regular climate surveys.

    Schools should conduct a campus climate survey every one to two 
years to assess students' experiences with and perspectives on sex 
harassment.\30\ Climate surveys help schools get a better sense of the 
ways in which harassment is affecting students and the barriers 
students face in seeking help, enabling schools to craft more effective 
and targeted prevention and response strategies. These anonymous 
surveys should include questions on students' attitudes about and 
perceptions of harassment at school, whether students have experienced 
sex harassment (including sexual assault, dating violence, and 
stalking), whether the student reported the harassment (and if not, why 
not), the impact of the harassment on students' access to education, 
their perceptions of the effectiveness of the school's responses to 
harassment, and their awareness of the school's harassment policies and 
procedures. The surveys should include voluntary demographic questions 
for students, including race, ethnicity, gender, transgender status, 
intersex status, sexual orientation, disability, and religion, to 
enable schools to better understand the ways that student experience 
may vary across communities and to take this into account in their 
prevention and response strategies as well. Schools should make the 
survey data available online in an accessible and usable format for all 
students and staff.
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    \30\ The Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2022 
requires the Department of Education to develop such a climate survey 
for institutions of higher education to collect data on the prevalence 
of sexual harassment, sexual assault, domestic violence, dating 
violence, and stalking. 20 U.S.C. Sec. 11611-6.
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3. Make clear that creating safe and inclusive learning environments is 
        a core priority.

    Schools can make their campuses safer for all students by making 
clear at every level of leadership that creating a safe and inclusive 
learning environment is a core value for the institution. By setting 
high expectations for student and staff behavior toward each other, 
modeling that behavior, and committing to policies and practices that 
reflect respect and care for students, schools can foster a culture 
that lessens the likelihood of harassment.
    Ultimately, it is the responsibility of leadership at educational 
institutions to make systemwide changes to ensure schools are safe and 
inclusive spaces for all students. Leadership should be explicit about 
its intention to prevent sexual harassment and support survivors, and 
be transparent about the steps it will take to change the climate, 
including any revised policies and procedures for handling reports of 
sexual harassment. Everyone within the institution should know that 
maintaining an equitable environment is a priority of the leadership, 
as that is also the foundation for engendering trust from the school 
community.
4. Protect transgender, nonbinary, and intersex students.

    Prevention requires mitigating the risk of harassment and assault 
for students who are at an increased risk of victimization, including 
transgender, nonbinary, and intersex students. As survivor advocates 
have noted \31\ and research affirms, transgender, nonbinary, and 
intersex individuals, including students, experience higher rates of 
sexual abuse when they face discriminatory policies that single them 
out for mistreatment, such as bans on the bathrooms or locker rooms 
they can use, the student housing they can reside in, or the sports 
teams they can play on.\32\ To promote a safe educational environment 
free from sex harassment and sexual assault for all students, schools 
should maintain policies that ensure transgender, nonbinary, and 
intersex students can access sex-separated facilities and activities--
including bathrooms, housing, locker rooms, and sports--consistent with 
their affirmed gender.\33\
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    \31\ National Task Force to End Sexual and Domestic Violence 
Against Women, National Consensus Statement of Anti-Sexual Assault and 
Domestic Violence Organizations in Support of Full and Equal Access for 
the Transgender Community (Apr. 21, 2016), https://
endsexualviolence.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/STATEMENT-OF-ANTI-
SEXUAL-ASSAULT-AND-DOMESTIC-VIOLENCE-ORGANIZATIONS-IN-SUPPORT-OF-EQUAL-
ACCESS-FOR-THE-TRANSGENDER-COMMUNITY.pdf.
    \32\ Movement Advancement Project, Separation and Stigma: 
Transgender Youth and School Facilities 2 (2017), https://
www.lgbtmap.org/file/transgender-youth-school.pdf (``Singling out 
transgender students and telling them they must use separate restrooms 
is humiliating and discriminatory, adding to the bullying and 
mistreatment so many transgender youth already face.''); GLSEN, The 
2021 National School Climate Survey: The Experience of LGBTQ+ Youth in 
Our Nation's Schools, 41 (2022), https://www.glsen.org/sites/default/
files/2022-10/NSCS-2021-Full-Report.pdf#page=64 [hereinafter ``GLSEN 
2021 Report'']; Diane Ehrensaft & Stephen M. Rosenthal, Sexual Assault 
Risk and School Facility Restrictions in Gender Minority Youth, 143 
PEDIATRICS e20190554 (2019), https://bit.ly/48CIfwU.
    \33\ Research shows that when LGBTQI+ youth are supported by 
inclusive policies, such as those that permit them to access bathrooms, 
locker rooms, and sports teams that match their affirmed gender, they 
are less likely to experience victimization and more likely to report 
feeling safer at school. See GLSEN 2021 Report, supra note 32, at 73, 
74.
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B. Schools should respond to sex harassment with prompt and effective 
        action.

    Schools should respond to sex harassment, including sexual assault, 
by taking ``prompt and effective'' action to end the harassment, 
prevent it from recurring, and remedy its effects on all those harmed--
as the Department of Education required in its Title IX implementing 
regulations from 1997 to 2020 \34\ and as the Biden Title IX rule 
reinstates.\35\ To abide by this standard, schools should remove 
barriers to reporting harassment, offer a wide range of supportive 
measures to all reporting students, protect students from retaliation, 
and offer students the option of using a restorative process to address 
harassment and sexual assault. This includes responding to conduct that 
occurs off campus. One study found that 33.7 percent of rapes of 
college students occurred on campus, while 66 percent occurred off 
campus,\36\ but the educational impact of off-campus assaults is no 
less significant for the survivor.
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    \34\ U.S. Dep't of Educ., Office for Civil Rights, Questions and 
Answers on Title IX and Sexual Violence 1 (issued Apr. 29, 2014; 
rescinded Sept. 22, 2017), https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/
docs/qa-201404-title-ix.pdf; U.S. Dep't of Educ., Office for Civil 
Rights, Dear Colleague Letter: Sexual Violence, 16 (issued Apr. 29, 
2011; rescinded Sept. 22, 2017), https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/
list/ocr/letters/colleague-201104.pdf; U.S. Dep't of Educ., Office for 
Civil Rights, Revised Sexual Harassment Guidance: Harassment of 
Students by School Employees, Other Students, or Third Parties, 10-12, 
14 (issued Jan. 19, 2001; rescinded Aug. 26, 2020), https://
www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/shguide.pdf; U.S. Dep't of 
Educ., Office for Civil Rights, Sexual Harassment Guidance: Harassment 
of Students by School Employees, Other Students, or Third Parties, 62 
Fed. Reg. 12034, 12039, 12040, 12041, 12042 (issued Mar. 13, 1997; 
rescinded Jan. 19, 2001), https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1997-
03-13/pdf/97-6373.pdf. See also U.S. Dep't of Educ., Office for Civil 
Rights, Dear Colleague Letter: Harassment and Bullying 2 (issued Oct. 
26, 2010), https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/
colleague-201010.pdf (regarding sex, race, and disability harassment).
    \35\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.44(f)(1) (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \36\ Bonnie Fisher et al., The Sexual Victimization of College 
Women, U.S. Dep't of Justice 18-20 (2000), http://www.ojp.gov/
pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf.
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    Nor should schools' response to sexual assault turn on whether a 
survivor reports the assault to the police. A student may choose not to 
seek arrest or criminal prosecution of their assailant for a variety of 
good reasons, and is entitled to a prompt and effective response from 
the educational institution regardless of whether they do so. When a 
student does report a sexual assault to the police and a concurrent law 
enforcement investigation is initiated, schools must still conduct 
their own separate informal resolutions or formal investigations of sex 
harassment complaints based on the survivor's choice of process. Law 
enforcement investigations are separate from the civil rights 
obligations imposed on schools to prevent and remedy sex 
discrimination. While law enforcement investigations are focused on 
punishment of criminal behavior, schools' civil rights obligations are 
centered on protecting students' equal access to education. When 
schools fail to undertake their own responsibilities to protect 
students' civil rights and instead defer to and depend on criminal 
processes to address sexual assault, student survivors are unable to 
get the support and prompt resolution they need--and deserve--from 
their schools.
1. Remove barriers to reporting harassment.

    Schools should enable their students to easily report harassment. 
To do so, they must identify barriers to reporting and address those 
barriers, as the Biden rule requires schools to do.\37\ For example, 
schools can conduct climate surveys (see IV.A.2) or focus groups on the 
prevalence of harassment and the barriers students face in reporting 
it.\38\ The types of barriers students experience should inform the 
solutions schools implement. To ease reporting, a school might, for 
example, conduct trainings for a specific department where many 
harassment complaints have arisen, more prominently display information 
about how to contact its Title IX coordinator, or, if it finds that 
fear of discipline deters many survivors from reporting, adopt amnesty 
policies for survivors for assault-related violations of drug, alcohol, 
or other school policies (see IV.B.3).\39\
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    \37\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.44(b) (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \38\ Biden Rule, at 33564-65, 33847.
    \39\ Id. at 33565, 33827.
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    In addition to reporting mechanisms that trigger formal 
investigations, schools should offer confidential mechanisms for 
disclosure that protect survivor autonomy and privacy. Preserving a 
survivor's choice and sense of control in the wake of sexual assault is 
critical in allowing them to heal, and research suggests that schools 
undertaking assault investigations and disciplinary actions against 
survivors' wishes can lead to educational disengagement, including 
withdrawal from extracurricular activities, campus life, and academic 
and honor societies.\40\ Thus, schools should designate one or more 
confidential employees, such as a counselor or advisor, with whom 
survivors can privately discuss their victimization, without fear that 
conversation might trigger a formal response. The identities of such 
employees should be widely known so that students are aware whether the 
person to whom they are making a disclosure is required to initiate a 
formal process or is a confidential resource.
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    \40\ Weiner Article, at 76; Carly P. Smith, Marina N. Rosenthal, & 
Jennifer J. Freyd, The UO Sexual Violence and Institutional Betrayal 
Campus Survey 34-36 (Oct. 24, 2014), https://dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/
campus/SmithRosenthalFreydGSU22-24October2014.pdf.
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2. Offer a wide range of supportive measures.

    Schools should provide students who report sexual assault and 
harassment (``complainants'') with a wide range of supportive measures 
that help them feel safe and learn,\41\ as required by both the new 
Biden Title IX rule and the previous Title IX rule; these supportive 
measures must be offered whether or not a complainant wishes to pursue 
a formal investigation,\42\ and, if they do pursue an investigation, 
regardless of whether their complaint is dismissed.\43\ For example, if 
a complainant feels unsafe on campus, schools can and should issue a 
no-contact order against the named harasser and make reasonable 
schedule changes so that the parties do not share classes, hallway 
routes, dining halls, buses, dorms, or campus workplaces.\44\ If a 
complainant has difficulty studying or attending class as a result of 
the harassment, schools can and should offer free counseling, excused 
absences, online or recorded classes, free tutoring, or extra time to 
submit an assignment or take an exam.\45\ And if the harassment has 
hurt a complainant's grades, attendance, or enrollment status, schools 
can adjust the complainant's transcript; reimburse tuition for an 
unfinished class; or preserve the complainant's eligibility for any 
activity, leadership position, campus job, or scholarship that has a 
grade, attendance, or credit requirement.\46\ These are simple measures 
that schools can take to restore and preserve student survivors' access 
to education, and most of them do not affect the harasser's educational 
experience, but could make a difference as to whether or not a student 
survivor can stay in school at all.
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    \41\ See Nat'l Women's L. Ctr. & Know Your IX, FAQs on Title IX and 
Supportive Measures for Students in K-12 and Higher Education (2021), 
https://bit.ly/49wWGnK [hereinafter Supportive Measures FAQ].
    \42\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.44(a) (eff. Aug. 14, 2020); see also 34 
C.F.R. Sec. Sec. 106.2 (defining ``supportive measures''), 106.44(g) 
(eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \43\ Id. at Sec. 106.45(d)(4)(i).
    \44\ Supportive Measures FAQ, supra note 41, at 5-6.
    \45\ Id. at 6-7.
    \46\ Id. at 7.
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3. Protect complainants from retaliation.

    Schools should protect student survivors from retaliation, 
including retaliatory discipline. At NWLC, we have represented student 
survivors who, horrifyingly, were suspended or expelled when they came 
forward, because they were disbelieved--underscoring the need for 
effective training and responses to survivors, but also for stronger 
anti-retaliation policies. Title IX regulations prohibit schools from 
retaliating against students who report sexual harassment and 
assault.\47\ In order to provide robust protection from retaliation, 
schools should adopt a policy that prohibits school officials from 
disciplining a complainant for making a false statement based solely on 
a school finding in favor of a respondent in a harassment 
investigation.\48\ In addition, schools should not discipline 
complainants for conduct related to an incident of harassment or 
assault, such as alcohol or drug use or violence undertaken in self-
defense. Nor should complainants be disciplined for conduct that is a 
result of the emotional, psychological, and physical impacts of 
harassment or assault (e.g., unexcused absences, expression of trauma 
symptoms). Furthermore, schools should protect complainants from 
meritless, retaliatory charges, such as a complaint filed by a 
respondent who has been found responsible and disciplined for sexual 
assault or dating violence alleging that the complainant was the actual 
assailant or abuser. Schools should not require a complainant to leave 
the school after reporting harassment. Nor should schools require a 
student to enter into a confidentiality agreement in order to assert 
their right to be free from harassment.
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    \47\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.71 (eff. Aug. 14, 2020); see also 34 C.F.R. 
Sec. Sec. 106.2 (defining ``retaliation''), 106.71 (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \48\ Id. at Sec. 106.45(h)(5).
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4. Offer the option of a restorative process.

    Schools should offer complainants and respondents the option of 
entering a restorative process--a voluntary, nonpunitive process with 
roots in First Nations, Maori, and other Indigenous traditions.\49\ A 
restorative process brings together a victim and harmer to acknowledge 
the harm that occurred, center the victim's needs, and repair the harm 
caused by the wrongdoer.\50\ To begin a restorative process, the harmer 
must first voluntarily admit that they caused harm. The victim's needs 
are then centered as they work together to determine how the harmer can 
take accountability, make amends, and change their future behavior. 
Studies show that when well implemented, restorative processes make 
victims of sexual harm feel safe and respected and enable harmers to 
understand what they did wrong better than through a traditional 
disciplinary process, meaning they are less likely to repeat the 
harm.\51\
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    \49\ See, e.g., International Institute for Restorative Practices, 
Restorative Justice Practices of Native American, First Nation and 
Other Indigenous People of North America: Part One (Apr. 27, 2004), 
https://www.iirp.edu/news/restorative-justice-practices-of-native-
american-first-nation-and-other-indigenous-people-of-north-america-
part-one#endnote1_to.; Restorative Justice 101, Reviving Indigenous 
Justice: Authentic Restorative Maori Processes in New Zealand, https://
restorativejustice101.com/reviving-indigenous-justice-authentic-
restorative-maori-processes-in-new-zealand/ [last visited July 19, 
2024].
    \50\ David Karp & Kaaren Williamsen, NASPA Student Aff. Admins. in 
Higher Educ., Five Things Student Affairs Administrators Should Know 
About Restorative Justice and Campus Sexual Harm 5-6 (2020), https://
bit.ly/430BKTJ.
    \51\ Id. at 10-11. See also Madison Orcutt, Restorative Justice 
Approaches to the Informal Resolution of Student Sexual Misconduct, 45 
J. COLL. & UNIV. L. 1, 31-37, https://bit.ly/42YJDsL (providing samples 
of agreements between parties, schools, and local prosecutors).
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    The Biden Title IX regulations, as well as their predecessor 
regulations, allow schools to use informal resolution processes, such 
as restorative processes, as long as participation in those processes 
is wholly voluntary.\52\ However, schools should not use mediation as 
an informal process to resolve complaints of sexual assault; mediation 
is a strategy often used in schools to resolve peer conflict, where 
both sides must take responsibility for their actions and come to a 
compromise. Mediation is never appropriate for resolving sexual 
assault, even on a voluntary basis, because of the power differential 
between assailants and victims, the potential for re-traumatization, 
and the implication that survivors somehow share ``partial'' 
responsibility for their own assault. Indeed, more than 900 mental 
health experts have written to the Department of Education opposing the 
use of mediation to resolve sexual assault because it ``perpetuate[s] 
sexist prejudices that blame the victim'' and ``can only result in 
further humiliation of the victim.'' \53\
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    \52\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.45(b)(9) (eff. Aug. 14, 2020); see also 34 
C.F.R. Sec. 106.44(k) (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \53\ Letter from 902 Mental Health Professionals to Dep't of Educ. 
3 (Jan. 30, 2019), https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Title-
IX-Comment-from-Mental-Health-Professionals.pdf.
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C. Schools should conduct fair investigations.

    When a student makes a complaint of sex harassment and seeks a 
formal resolution process, schools should follow the investigation 
procedures detailed in the Biden administration's new Title IX 
rule.\54\ This includes questioning the parties through a neutral 
official or panel and applying a preponderance of the evidence standard 
to determine whether harassment occurred. Regardless of the type of 
investigatory or hearing process the school uses to formally resolve 
complaints of sex harassment, schools should ensure that their 
procedures are reliable, prompt, equitable, and fair to all parties 
involved. Students should have equal rights in presenting witnesses and 
evidence, an opportunity to respond to allegations and evidence 
provided in an investigation, and equal appeal rights.
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    \54\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. 106.46 (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
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1. Use a neutral school official or panel to question the parties and 
        witnesses.

    In investigations of sexual harassment, institutions of higher 
education should require a neutral school official or panel to question 
the parties and witnesses, whether in individual meetings or in a live 
hearing. However, the parties' advisors should not be permitted to 
cross-examine the other party and witnesses. Requiring survivors of 
sexual assault and dating violence to answer detailed, personal, and 
humiliating questions from a hostile questioner--which is not required 
in investigations of complaints of any other type of student or staff 
misconduct in schools--reinforces gender stereotypes and rape myths 
that survivors tend to lie about or are to blame for their own 
victimization.\55\ This communicates the toxic and sexist message that 
those alleging sexual assault or other forms of sex harassment--most 
commonly women and girls--are uniquely unreliable and untrustworthy and 
therefore deserving of additional scrutiny.
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    \55\ Sarah Zydervelt et al., Lawyers' Strategies for Cross-
Examining Rape Complainants: Have we Moved Beyond the 1950s?, BRITISH 
JOURNAL OF CRIMINOLOGY, 57(3), 551-569 (2016).
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    The Biden administration's Title IX rule appropriately allows 
institutions of higher education the flexibility to choose a method of 
questioning parties and witnesses to assess their credibility in a way 
that does not retraumatize victims and that respects the due process 
rights of all parties.\56\ In addition, six of eight circuit courts to 
consider the issue have held that adversarial cross-examination is not 
required to satisfy due process or fundamental fairness in campus 
disciplinary proceedings, and that a neutral hearing officer or panel 
may question the parties instead.\57\ Indeed, the Supreme Court has not 
required any form of cross-examination in disciplinary proceedings in 
public schools under the Due Process clause and has explicitly said 
that a 10-day suspension does not require ``the opportunity . . . to 
confront and cross-examine witnesses.'' \58\ By allowing institutions 
the flexibility to choose a process that does not rely on cross 
examination, the Biden Title IX rule seeks to prevent students--
survivors and witnesses alike--from being discouraged from 
participating in sexual harassment investigations.\59\
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    \56\ 34 C.F.R. Sec. Sec. 106.45(f), 106.46(g) (eff. Aug. 1, 2024).
    \57\ Walsh v. Hodge, 975 F.3d 475, 485 (5th Cir. 2020), cert. 
denied, 141 S. Ct. 1693 (2021); Doe v. Univ. of Ark., 974 F.3d 858, 867 
(8th Cir. 2020); Haidak v. Univ. of Mass.-Amherst, 933 F.3d 56, 69 (1st 
Cir. 2019); Doe v. Colgate Univ., 760 F. App'x 22, 27, 33 (2d Cir. 
2019); Doe v. Loh, No. CV PX-16-3314, 2018 WL 1535495, at *7 (D. Md. 
Mar. 29, 2018), aff'd, 767 F. App'x 489 (4th Cir. 2019); Nash v. Auburn 
Univ., 812 F.2d 655, 664 (11th Cir. 1987). Contra Doe v. Univ. of 
Scis., 961 F.3d 203, 215 (3d Cir. 2020) (fundamental fairness requires 
private universities to provide cross-examination if credibility is at 
issue); Doe v. Baum, 903 F.3d 575, 581 (6th Cir. 2018) (due process 
requires public universities to provide cross-examination if 
credibility is at issue and serious sanctions are possible).
    \58\ Goss v. Lopez, 419 U.S. 565, 583 (1975).
    \59\ See, e.g., Eliza A. Lehner, Rape Process Templates: A Hidden 
Cause of the Underreporting of Rape, 29 YALE J. OF LAW & FEMINISM 207 
(2018) (``rape victims avoid or halt the investigatory process'' due to 
fear of ``brutal cross-examination''); Michelle J. Anderson, Women Do 
Not Report the Violence They Suffer: Violence Against Women and the 
State Action Doctrine, 46 VILL. L. REV. 907, 932 936-37 (2001) 
(decision not to report (or to drop complaints) is influenced by 
repeated questioning and fear of cross-examination). As one defense 
attorney recently acknowledged, ``Especially when the defense is 
fabrication or consent--as it often is in adult rape cases--you have to 
go at the witness. There is no way around this fact. Effective cross-
examination means exploiting every uncertainty, inconsistency, and 
implausibility. More, it means attacking the witness's very 
character.'' Abbe Smith, Representing Rapists: The Cruelty of Cross-
Examination and Other Challenges for a Feminist Criminal Defense 
Lawyer, 53 AM. CRIM. L. REV. 255, 290 (2016).
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    Finally, while cross-examination ``is problematic for all 
institutions, regardless of size and resources available,'' \60\ it is 
particularly difficult for community colleges, vocational schools, and 
other smaller institutions, which often lack the hefty resources 
required for conducting quasi-trials with cross-examination. Using 
neutral school officials to question students instead of allowing 
adversarial cross-examination helps ensure that institutional efforts 
to address sexual assault are both efficient and cost-effective, 
bringing a speedy and fair resolution to all parties.
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    \60\ E.g., Letter from Liberty University to Sec'y Elisabeth DeVos 
at 4 (Jan. 24, 2019), http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2019/jan/Title-
IX-Public-Comments.pdf.
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2. Apply a preponderance of the evidence standard.

    In investigations of sexual assault and other types of sex 
harassment, schools should always apply a preponderance of the evidence 
standard to determine whether the harassment occurred. The 
preponderance standard is the only evidentiary standard that treats 
both sides equally and properly balances complainants' and respondents' 
interests.\61\
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    \61\ Contrary to what some have argued, schools should not use the 
clear and convincing evidence standard when investigating sexual 
harassment and assault. The Supreme Court has only required the clear 
and convincing evidence standard in a handful of civil proceedings, 
where the litigants are the state and an individual, and profound 
deprivations of life or liberty are at stake--e.g., deportation, 
termination of parental rights, involuntary psychiatric commitment, or 
withdrawal of medical life support. Cruzan v. Director, Mo. Dep't of 
Health, 497 U.S. 261 (1990); Santosky v. Kramer, 455 U.S. 745 (1982); 
Addington v. Texas, 441 U.S. 418 (1979); Woodby v. INS, 385 U.S. 276 
(1966). School disciplinary proceedings are nothing like these cases.
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    The preponderance standard is also the appropriate standard because 
school harassment investigations are not criminal proceedings. In a 
criminal prosecution, the defendant's very liberty (or life) is at 
stake, and there is an immense power differential between the state and 
the defendant; that is why the state must prove criminal charges beyond 
a reasonable doubt. School misconduct proceedings do not threaten the 
respondent with incarceration, nor do complainants exercise anything 
remotely like the enormous power of the state. School disciplinary 
proceedings are instead much more analogous to civil legal proceedings, 
where the preponderance standard is the evidentiary standard nearly 
always used.\62\ While sexual assault and dating violence can also 
constitute criminal conduct, school investigations of gender-based 
violence do not require criminal standards, because they do not impose 
criminal penalties. After all, schools already regularly respond to 
other types of student misconduct that also amount to crimes (e.g., 
physical assault, theft, arson), and we rightfully recognize that 
schools do not have to conduct quasi-criminal trials meeting a criminal 
standard of proof to impose discipline in those situations.
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    \62\ Cornell L. Sch., Legal Info. Inst., Burden of Proof, https://
bit.ly/3OZ3Gl1 (last visited July 18, 2024).
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V. Conclusion

    All students deserve meaningful support and responses from their 
school in the wake of sexual assault or harassment. Going without this 
essential support can traumatize students, put them at risk of further 
victimization, and jeopardize their ability to learn in safety and 
continue in their education. To disrupt a culture of deliberate 
indifference to sexual violence and to ensure students are able to 
learn in safety, schools, including HINU, must adopt and consistently 
implement policies to prevent and effectively respond to harassment. 
The recommendations outlined above are consistent with students' 
demands for support and accountability, as well as all schools' 
obligations under federal law to protect students from sex 
discrimination.
    Federal, state, and local lawmakers also have an important role to 
play and should commit themselves to enforcing and safeguarding the 
rights of students to be free from sexual assault and harassment. 
Unfortunately, the House majority has instead chosen to do the 
opposite, recently passing a resolution disapproving the very Title IX 
regulations dedicated to strengthening protections for student 
survivors of sexual assault.\63\ This is appalling, and survivors 
deserve better. Whether they learn in federally-operated schools or 
federally-funded schools, every student should be able to rely on 
robust, enforceable legal protections against sex harassment. Lawmakers 
have an obligation to ensure that they can.
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    \63\ H.J. Res. 165--118th Congress (2023-2024); Providing for 
congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States 
Code, of the rule submitted by the Department of Education relating to 
``Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Sex in Education Program or 
Activities Receiving Federal Financial Assistance.''
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    Thank you for the opportunity to submit this testimony to explain 
how all schools can prevent, address, and investigate all forms of sex 
harassment and assault, as well as provide meaningful support to 
survivors--so that no student's education is derailed by their 
victimization.

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    Dr. Gosar. Thank you very much Ms. Martin, I now recognize 
Mr. Mayes for his 5 minutes.

  STATEMENT OF CLAY J. MAYES, HEAD COACH, TRACK AND FIELD AND 
  CROSS COUNTRY, HASKELL ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT, HASKELL INDIAN 
              NATIONS UNIVERSITY, LAWRENCE, KANSAS

    Mr. Mayes. Thank you for having me, I appreciate you guys 
being here. My name is Clay Mayes and I am from the Cherokee 
and Chickasaw Tribe. First, I would like to say this is a very 
fixable solution but it requires swift action. As someone that 
has been focused on Native American recruitment since 2014, I 
started at two private colleges and I was pulled in the 
direction to coach at Haskell, mainly because of its 
affordability versus the private college cost.
    So, when I got there, I was a little bit overjoyed to be 
there due to, I think it is $1,430 for the total cost and being 
able to recruit anyone that may not be able to afford a normal 
college education.
    However as I started, I learned about the Gipp family and 
how they would create difficulties for my position by Gary 
Tenner, Aaron Hove, Jerry Tuckwin, and I will share another 
name outside of session, another name outside of session, 
another name outside of session, another name outside of 
session, mainly because they work within the BIE and I feel 
like retaliation could be possible.
    Initially I had no idea nor could fathom to the degree the 
Gipps were willing to go to undermine my position and my 
family's livelihood and this concerns Al Gipp, former track 
coach, and former cross-country coach, Freda Gipp, Al Gipp's 
wife, works in the president's office, and as an assistant 
coach previously to Al Gipp.
    Judith Gipp two times removed athletic director and used to 
be an assistant coach to her brother and Freda Gipp, previously 
Aja McCormick also an in-line member of the Gipp family, hired 
by Judith Gipp former sports information director. And Gerald 
Gipp, who was the Haskell President 1981 to 1989 who hired the 
initial members of the family.
    Previously, I was involved in two investigations, one 
conducted by USPS, that was deemed as a waste of time and money 
and should not have been involved per Haskell's AIB Report. The 
postal service investigation should not have been involved as 
allegations were not supported by any solid evidence and it 
appears that the only witnesses interviewed were those involved 
in the allegations and it appeared that there was little to no 
effort to obtain various viewpoints.
    Another quote from the AIB Report, ``Bottom line is the 
postal service level investigation was uncalled for and a waste 
of time and money, especially knowing they were limited in 
their capacity to interview key witnesses.''
    Another quote from the AIB Report, page 15 ``In fact the 
board finds that there were many other HNU employees, 
contractors, involved, may have fabricated many of the issues 
reported on Mayes. The Board believes the no contract order for 
Mayes became a useful tool to accomplish an underlying intent 
to get Mayes out of HNU coaching, he could not be on campus or 
around students, he could not do his job, the Board could not 
find any justifiable reason to place Mayes on a no contact 
order and must reiterate that there is absolutely no evidence 
he was a safety threat to any student or staff member.''
    And as I solved different issues from theft or sexual 
assault victims reporting to me, I elevated that to my 
supervisor. I made 25 reports via email with a time stamp, all 
the emails are saved. I have had zero responses. I made 16 
reports to the BIE HR Specialist out of 16 with all time stamps 
and emails and I got zero responses, not an acknowledgement. 
Out of six reports asking for meetings on three occasions, with 
the previous former president Tamarah Pfeiffer, I got zero 
responses.
    After raising this with my contract officer, who was 
responsible to ensure that I be able to do my job, I reported 
to him 14 times, all 14 times I got no response. Concerning 
some of the issues that were raised with OIG, I made an OIG 
report, February 23. On February 24, I received a stop work 
order from BIE. April 13, I made my second OIG report. Five 
days later, I received a termination from BIE. When the 
investigators asked if BIE responded to my OIG report later on, 
they did not. And to address one Congressman who raised the 
concern on the KU relation being broken, here is what one 
former employee, two chains of command above this employee 
said. ``In regard to why Tim loves Judith, he caused Haskell 
the loss of the student trainers from KU because of his sexual 
harassment of students and Judith covered up for him.'' I 
worked with Albuquerque HR and issued a disciplinary action 
against him, he was notified removal would occur if anything 
happened. He cried and begged and said they were exaggerating, 
he still works there.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Mayes follows:]
  Prepared Statement of Mr. Clay Mayes, Head Coach, Track and Field, 
               Cross Country, Haskell Athletic Department

    The leaders in our community, both local & nationally, have 
encouraged me to expound on prior harassment, retaliation, and attacks 
since my work start date, June 21, 2021, at Haskell Indian Nations 
University as the cross country coach.
    My position, from it's start, to its premature end, April 18, 2022, 
was persistently and strategically undermined for the entirety of my 
employment with no resolution nor accountability haven taken place.
    As a Native American coach and former collegiate runner, I have 
been interested in coaching at Haskell Indian Nations University for 
some time. I felt that Haskell was a place I could recruit the best and 
brightest in the United States while supporting their journey to a low-
cost university education. This belief and faith led my wife, and our 
two newly adopted kids, 5-year-old Billy Littlewhirlwind & 6-year-old 
Ruby Littlewhirlwind, to uproot our lives entirely from California to 
Lawrence, Kansas to work at Haskell Indian Nations University.

    I was informed before my start date that the ``Gipp family'' will 
create difficulties for my position by Gary Tanner, Aaron Hove, Jerry 
Tuckwin, Brent Cahwee, Dwight Pickering, Michael Daney, James Nells, 
and many others. Initially, I had no idea, nor could fathom, to the 
degree that the Gipps were willing to go to undermine my position and 
family's livelihood in coaching at Haskell. I was unaware of the extent 
that the Gipp family permeated various levels within Haskell and the 
BIE:

     Al Gipp: Former Track Coach and former Cross Country Coach

     Freda Gipp, Al Gipp's wife: Works in the Office of the 
            President, former assistant coach to her husband, Al Gipp.

     Judith Gipp, Al Gipp's sister: faculty member at Haskell, 
            former Athletic Director, two times removed, and former 
            assistant coach to her brother, Al Gipp.

     Aja McCormick, an aligned member of the Gipp family, hired 
            by Judith Gipp: former Sports Information Director.

     Gerald Gipp, former Haskell Indian Nations University's 
            President.

    Previously, I was involved in two investigations. One conducted by 
USPS, that was deemed a `waste of time and money,' and should not have 
been involved per Haskell's AIB Report:

        ``The Postal Service Investigation should not have been 
        involved as the allegations were not supported by any solid 
        evidence and it appears that the only witnesses interviewed 
        were those involved in the allegations, and it appeared there 
        was little to no effort to obtain various viewpoints.''

         Page 15 BIE AIB Report

        ``Bottom line is a Postal Service level investigation was 
        uncalled for and a waste of time and money, especially knowing 
        they were limited in their capacity to interview key 
        witnesses.''

         Page 15 BIE AIB Report

    The second investigation was conducted over Haskell by BIE's AIB 
Board. AIB's report was withheld for 16 months, then further withheld 
in being switched out for USPS's report. These tactics to suppress the 
AIB report was in defiance of both a court order and an agreement to 
comply by the U.S. Attorney's Office to release the report.

    The first investigation, USPS, involved ongoing retaliation and 
harassment by our Sports Information Director (SID), Aja McCormick and 
the aligned Gipp family members. Who continuously perpetrated false 
reports. Per BIE's AIB Report:

        ``In fact, the Board finds that there were other HINU employees 
        and contractors involved that may have fabricated many of the 
        issues reported [on Mayes].''

         Page 15 BIE AIB Report

    Such reports led to the no-contact order and the USPS 
Investigation. As BIE's AIB Board confirms with the no-contact order 
and USPS's investigation:

        ``The Board believes the no contact order for Mayes became a 
        useful tool to accomplish an underlying intent to get Mayes out 
        of HINU coaching. If he could not be on campus or around 
        students, he could not do his job. The Board could not find any 
        justifiable reason to place Mayes on a no-contact order and 
        must reiterate that there is absolutely no evidence he was a 
        safety threat to any student or staff member.''

         Page 15 & 16 BIE AIB Report

    Dealing with such tactics began to magnify when I started reporting 
ongoing abuses and crimes being committed by the Gipp family members 
and their aligned coworkers. In one instance on October 5, 2021, I 
witnessed large-scale theft by Judith Gipp and Al Gipp, who loaded up 
their personal vehicle with 20-some boxes of pricey athletic equipment 
and apparel, and then driving off-campus with it, only to see their 
family and friends wearing if at events. As campus knows and has 
shared, the Gipp family and aligned coworkers have committed such 
crimes for decades.
    Following October 5, 2021's theft report, McCormick began hosting 
secret meetings to create frivolous reports and did so with Al Gipp's, 
Judith Gipp's, and Freda Gipp's students. Their objective was simple, 
do whatever they want, when they want, to hurt whoever they want. 
``Rules for the, but not for me.''
    I requested a work orientation, Haskell's policies & procedures, 
but to no avail, all systematically withheld. Haskell's Human Resources 
Mona Gonzalez stated in email, ``I am not the provider of policies,'' & 
my most recent supervisor, Steve Byington stated, ``There's no good 
place to find them (rules).''

        ``Students alleged HINU illegally breached their coaches' 
        contract through systematic harassment and false allegations. 
        The Board believes Mayes was set up for failure, intentionally 
        not provides policies or procedures, not provided a work 
        orientation, and was harassed by [J. Gipp] and [Aja McCormick]. 
        HINU Leadership and BIE H.R. Relations staff overreacted to 
        mere allegations with limited or no direct evidence. Mayes's 
        contract was eventually terminated without any evidence of 
        wrongdoing.''

         Page 4 & 5 BIE AIB Report

    When I became aware of McCormick's meetings, I reported it to my 
supervisor and McCormick's supervisor, Athletic Director Gary Tanner. 
Tanner elevated and affirmed such reports to Haskell President, Tamarah 
Pfeiffer. Unfathomably, Pfeiffer proceeded to remove Tanner entirely 
from any acting authority, rendering him helpless per, ``You're too 
close.''

    I was soon told on November 1, 2021, that an USPS investigation was 
to follow, and I was issued a ``no-contact order,'' as was my students, 
effective November 4, 2021. Such justification for the no-contact and 
its reports were withheld, but later known to be McCormick's and the 
Gipp's reports used to justify the no-contact. Such reports were 
wrongfully withheld from Tanner before and after his removal. The 
reiteration Tanner and I received concerning the no-contact, ``it'll 
only be two weeks,'' an overt lie. The USPS investigation and no-
contact order did not finish till months after my removal, all of such 
reports, withheld during my work time at Haskell. With all signs of due 
process being non-existent.

     The ``no-contact order'' barred me from communicating with 
            Fall's XC student-athletes I recruited to Haskell, even 
            though these students had zero complaints and all such 
            complaints were by McCormick, Gipp's, and Gipp students.

     One of my reports concerning harassment, being bullied, 
            fraud, and abuse was to OIG on February 1, 2022.

     February 23, 2021, OIG emailed, ``Your complaint 
            information was provided to BIE for any action deemed 
            appropriate.''

     One day later, February 24th, my contract and pay was 
            halted immediately per, ``Stop Work Order''

     Hours after the ``Stop Work Order'' was issued, my first 
            call with the USPS investigation and the investigator came 
            in.

    Harassment and hostile confrontations magnified when Judith Gipp 
was promoted to interim Athletic Director on January 1, 2022, for a 
second time.
    Years earlier Judith was removed as athletic director for 
mismanagement of funds. Sure enough, my budget dropped by 49,000 
instantly, and 4 requests to discuss the disappearance of 49k was 
denied by Judith
    I was regularly followed and stalked at work by Judith, she 
ransacked my desk two occasions, and then began going after all the 
students I recruited, issuing threats, conducting hostile meetings, 
used her students to bully them, and like me, began following them 
perpetually if full compliance and control was not met. Per AIB Report:

        ``[Mayes] students were intimidated, including their continued 
        participation as student-athletes was threatened if they failed 
        to comply with the no-contact order.''

         Page 3 BIE AIB Report

    -AND-

        ``[Mayes's] students were subject to bullying, intimidation and 
        harassment--or at least treated differently for wanting to work 
        with Mayes,'' and the university's ``management did not enforce 
        the Department of Interior Anti-Harassment Policy when 
        complaints were raised.''

         Page 5 BIE AIB Report

    -AND-

        ``This requirement appeared to be unprecedented,'' the report 
        reads. ``Students allege Tonia Salvini and others threatened 
        and intimidated them into signing the no-contact order. 
        Evidence supports this student allegation.''

         Page 3 BIE AIB Report

    During all of this, I sought assistance through the proper chain of 
command by first informing one of my supervisors, Steve Byington (CFO), 
in an attempt to resolve ongoing harassment, retaliation, and attacks 
toward my position at Haskell. The issues remained unresolved, as 25 of 
25 emailed reports & requests went unanswered. I was then advised to 
contact Haskell President Tamarah Pfeiffer to reach a more immediate 
resolution due to the urgency of the situation.
    I emailed the Haskell President on February 9th, 16th and then on, 
22nd. I noted all three times that I needed a meeting to discuss the 
continuous assaults and concerns I had. I received no response and was 
ignored as oppression continued. All 6 of 6 attempts to report to the 
Haskell President went unanswered, minus December 2, 2021's email 
response and assertion she had to delete the reports I sent her.
    On February 24, 2022, I received a call from the Division of 
Acquisition that my pay and contract was halted, effective immediately. 
There was no warning, no reason(s), nor any sort of due process. 
Divisions of acquisitions noted that a current Haskell administrator 
contacted them, stating my contract obligations could not be fulfilled 
due an ``ongoing'' investigation ``no-contact order'' affecting my 
ability to hold practices. An investigation that was to be two weeks, 
was now on month 5. An investigation that was falsely said to be 
``independent.'' An investigation that continued to be stalled, 
manipulated, and twisted to continue perpetual abuse. Per BIE's AIB 
Report:

        ``The Postal Service Investigation should not have been 
        involved as the allegations were not supported by any solid 
        evidence and it appears that the only witnesses interviewed 
        were those involved in the allegations, and it appeared there 
        was little to no effort to obtain various viewpoints.''

         Page 15 BIE AIB Report

        ``Management at Haskell engaged in efforts to limit the 
        U.S.Postal Service investigation and `produce the outcome they 
        wanted.'' In part, that involved ``pitting two factions of 
        student athletes against each other to support their cause'' 
        and ``limiting their list of witnesses to a specific few.''

         Page 4 BIE AIB Report

    Soon after, February 28, 2022, via call and reporting to the next 
official in my chain of command, BIE Director Tony Dearman, I was 
informed of reinstatement to follow.
    Soon after, two meetings were arranged by Haskell's Vice President, 
Tonia Salvini, on March 11th and March 14th. I was assured 
reinstatement was to follow, and when I requested to know the contents 
of 11/4/2021 reports via `no-contact order,' I was met with a 
crackling-like scream from Salvini, shouting, ``YOU HUSH! THIS IS FOR 
YOUR BEST INTEREST!''
    Following reinstatement meetings more fraudulent reports were 
manifested by Judith Gipp, her family, and aligned co-workers. The 
promises of my reinstatement were hollow and never honored.
    April 13, 2022, OIG emailed me and informed me they forwarded BIE 
my 2nd OIG report (and a whistleblower report) on unrestrained abuse at 
Haskell. Five days later, April 18th, I was terminated via email by BIE 
for ``Sole Government Convenience.''
    Months later, July 9th, 2022, I was informed through a co-worker of 
BIE Director Dearman, and a long-time mentor, James Nells, Dearman 
``had my back, and his full support,'' and he was going to reinstate me 
upon completion of Haskell's investigation, which started two days 
later, July 11th, 2022.
    Upon Haskell's investigation and its completion, Dearman's promises 
of reinstatement were unmet.

                                 ______
                                 

    Dr. Gosar. Thank you Mr. Mayes, we are going to have to 
leave it right there. I am now going to acknowledge people on 
the dais for their questions and we are going to start with Mr. 
Owens from Utah.
    Mr. Owens. Thank you, I first of all want to thank you guys 
for being here, it takes courage, it takes heart. This is a 
problem that has been going on way too long. My hopes are that 
somebody might make a movie one day to expose what is happening 
to a population that has been out of sight, out of mind.
    And this is not the way our country has been ever designed, 
to take advantage of a vulnerable people because we don't see 
them. And I will say the only difference in the black community 
and the Native American community is at least we are visible, 
so we can put our voices out there and people have to pay 
attention. We need to make sure that we have oversight that 
this never ever happens again.
    We have too many good people who will never live the 
American Dream because they don't get an education, and it is 
because of people who do not care, bureaucrats who are cowardly 
sitting behind their desks, their computers and doing 
absolutely nothing to help people that are asking for just a 
chance to dream.
    So, we are going to make sure we are addressing that and I 
just have a couple questions for you. I just want to thank you 
guys because it does take courage, it takes heart, and that is 
what our country is all about. Dr. Graham, Haskell is a bureau 
run university, how did your interactions with the bureau 
differ from your experiences with other universities?
    Mr. Graham. Say that again sir, I am having a hard time 
hearing you.
    Mr. Owens. OK, I am sorry, Haskell is a bureau run 
university, how did your interactions with the bureau differ 
from your experiences with other universities?
    Mr. Graham. It was different, first of all like I said, I 
went there when COVID was in place, so I had to deal with a 
university who had never taught online before. I had an IT 
section that was antiquated, I had students who didn't have 
computers that would work so they could interact with their 
faculty.
    And I put together online systems before at other 
universities, so I had to work fast, I had hired a person out 
of the military who was very adept to advanced IT and he got me 
the software I needed, he recognized the problem the day he got 
there.
    And we ordered that software immediately, we got the campus 
up, I had also put together immediate orientation programs for 
the faculty and for the students so they would know how to 
teach and they would know how to actually take classes, how to 
upload their research papers, how to take examinations.
    Mr. Owens. I don't want to take too much time because I do 
want to ask a couple of questions.
    Mr. Graham. OK.
    Mr. Owens. Let me just ask the same question to Coach, what 
is different about your experience at Haskell as opposed to 
other universities you have worked with?
    Mr. Mayes. There are a lot of unwritten processes at 
Haskell that I didn't know existed, perhaps good parenting, I 
don't know, I didn't ever think there was a group of people 
that would enjoy going after you, you know? You get sick or you 
are not doing well or you don't handle something that is going 
on, that you have to deal with, they usually double down and go 
a little bit harder just to drive you a little bit further.
    That is something that I never truly knew existed. You hear 
these horror stories with different groups of people, for me, 
that is just something that seeing people lack basic empathy 
and emotion, I still struggle processing that a group of people 
like that exist.
    Mr. Owens. And my understanding is that, when you had the 
issues, you also went up to the next level of the bureau to try 
to get support. Was there any support, any opening ear or any 
desire to try to figure this out, as you took it to the next 
level?
    Mr. Mayes. No, I mean I went up the chains of command, 0 of 
25 reports to my supervisor then it was to Tamarah Pfeiffer, 0 
of 6 reports, then it was to the BIE Director, who said you 
know, he would elevate the report and I would be reinstated, 
that never happened.
    And then I elevated it to OIG, I lost my job the day after 
they gave it to BIE, and then when I reported whistleblower, a 
little over a month later, then they officially terminated me, 
even though they shut off my contract already. They need to 
send me a termination notice since I reported to OIG again.
    Mr. Owens. Well, once again, I am running out of time, I 
want to thank you guys, because obviously it has been going on 
for decades, and only because of your actions, your reporting, 
your voice, and getting a small sense of visibility that we are 
sitting here today talking about it and the entire country will 
hear and see what is going on, on these types of college 
campuses that don't really care. So, thank you so much for 
that, and I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman from Utah, the gentleman 
from Virginia, Mr. Scott, is recognized for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Scott. Thank you Mr. Chairman, Dr. Graham, comments 
were made earlier about the salary that presidents are paid, 
and the ability to attract presidents at that salary, do you 
remember what you were paid?
    Mr. Graham. Yes, I was paid $129,000 and I was still doing 
the job. I didn't get the high GS-15 level, this was what they 
offered and I was really excited just to be on this type of 
campus.
    Mr. Scott. Do you know what the president is paid now?
    Mr. Graham. Most presidents are paid between, well it 
depends on what university and what level you are working at--
--
    Mr. Scott. What is the president at Haskell paid now?
    Mr. Graham. I am at an SES level. It would probably be over 
$200,000.
    Mr. Scott. And do you know what a recommended salary should 
be? What other presidents are paid?
    Mr. Graham. Other presidents from a government or from a 
regular university?
    Mr. Scott. Regular university.
    Mr. Graham. A regular university, there are presidents paid 
between $500,000 to over a million a year.
    Mr. Scott. Is that for a relatively small college?
    Mr. Graham. I am not aware of what the smaller colleges 
get.
    Mr. Scott. You have a thousand students, have you had 
20,000 students, you would expect to have to pay more----
    Mr. Graham. Absolutely.
    Mr. Scott. For a college with 1,000 students, do you know 
what the salary range would be expected?
    Mr. Graham. Probably what I was getting, is what I would 
determine.
    Mr. Scott. OK.
    Mr. Graham. Because, yes.
    Mr. Scott. It is more than them, there have been a lot of 
complaints at Haskell and they are being investigated. Would 
you be in a position to know whether things have changed at 
Haskell since all of these investigations started?
    Mr. Graham. To my understanding nothing has changed, they 
have the same role players, the same people that are causing 
the problems are still there, they still, I told you about what 
they have implemented in there, they have the same Board of 
Regents. I don't think anything has changed, sir.
    Mr. Scott. Thank you, Ms. Martin do you want to comment?
    Ms. Martin. I don't have any independent knowledge of what 
is happening at Haskell. I have read the redacted report or at 
least the sections relevant to sexual harassment and some of 
the press coverage. So, I can't speak to what has happened at 
Haskell since the events set out in that report. I can talk 
about the ways in which these problems often show up in schools 
and the reforms that make a difference, centering the needs of 
students and really paying attention to----
    Mr. Scott. Well, if you are not aware, you are not on 
campus so that would be difficult, but what can colleges do to 
prevent sexual harassment and sexual assault?
    Ms. Martin. Well, one of the things that colleges can do is 
leaders at the top can set a tone, leadership at every level 
can set a tone that prevention of sexual assault and creating a 
truly inclusive culture is a core value at the university. And 
in addition, there is training that can and should be done both 
of staff and of students, so that people understand what 
responses are available, what sexual harassment is, and help to 
unlearn some of the biases that often infect staff responses 
when students report sexual harassment and assault, and when 
schools get reports of sexual assault, part of their response 
is also prevention.
    So, taking steps ensure that somebody who is sexually 
assaulted, someone isn't in a position to do it again. All of 
that is part of prevention work.
    Mr. Scott. Thank you, are you aware of the recent changes 
in the new rule in Title IX?
    Ms. Martin. I am.
    Mr. Scott. Can you comment on whether it is a good change 
and the effect of the legislation to overturn it?
    Ms. Martin. Yes, very briefly, the changes to the Title IX 
rule really strengthen protections for survivors of sexual 
assault and sexual harassment on campuses and ensure that 
schools respond promptly and effectively to reports of sex 
harassment and sexual assault.
    The resolution to disapprove that rule if it were passed by 
Congress and signed by the President would not only overturn 
that rule, it would prevent the Department of Education from 
doing any substantially similar rulemaking in the future which 
would be a huge step backwards for preventing sexual harassment 
on campuses.
    Mr. Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you. The gentleman from Wisconsin, Mr. 
Grothman is now recognized for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Grothman. Here is something for you, we have quite a 
mess here, quite a mess. Mr. Graham, about how many kids 
graduate from this school every year?
    Mr. Graham. I don't recall the number that graduated, there 
were different numbers every year that I, there was a problem 
when I first got there, but I don't recall the exact number 
now.
    Mr. Grothman. And you guys are there, 100, 150, 25?
    Mr. Mayes. It is a good question that I would like to know 
the answer to as well. I wish I knew what the enrollment 
percentages and numbers are. I think the more transparency the 
better on that.
    Mr. Grothman. All we know is, what are the big majors 
there, does anybody know that?
    Mr. Mayes. Health Exercise, I know that one, there are 
three or four of them, I know they were working on adding a 
program, but there are very few majors and I think that is 
probably one of the hurdles is more programs need to be added.
    Mr. Grothman. Health Exercise. Can you recount Mr. Mayes 
some specific thing that you observed or was reported to you 
and how it was handled by the administration? Or by the Bureau 
of Indian Education?
    Mr. Mayes. Yes, I witnessed theft after an employer 
messaged it by message on October 5, 2021.
    Mr. Grothman. Say again, speak up.
    Mr. Mayes. On October 5, 2021, I witnessed theft, and an 
employer first mentioned it by message, and I was on campus and 
I also saw it, and a few different employers said ``oh they 
have been doing that for years,'' which I learned and I 
elevated the report and then who I was elevating it to----
    Mr. Grothman. Theft you said?
    Mr. Mayes. Who I was elevating the reports to ended up 
going to the police, they were circling back to what wasn't 
reported, so I was getting direct retaliation when I was making 
these reports.
    Mr. Grothman. What were you reporting?
    Mr. Mayes. Theft, theft of Federal property, there were a 
little over 20 boxes being loaded into an employee's vehicle 
and driven off campus.
    Mr. Grothman. OK, and who was doing the stealing?
    Mr. Mayes. Judith Gipp and Al Gipp.
    Mr. Grothman. Pardon?
    Mr. Mayes. Judith Gipp, Al Gipp, two Haskell employees.
    Mr. Grothman. OK, where did they steal it from?
    Mr. Mayes. Thorpe Center, athletic apparel, gear and 
equipment.
    Mr. Grothman. And did the Bureau of Indian Education care 
at all in any fashion?
    Mr. Mayes. Like on all of my other reports, they didn't 
respond.
    Mr. Grothman. What is your opinion with what is wrong with 
the Bureau of Indian Education? I mean are they just a bunch of 
employees who have a government job, feel like they can't get 
fired so they just kind of hang around forever.
    Mr. Mayes. I always hear this so this is wisdom from others 
that I have been around, is admitting any wrong doing, is not 
OK. So, there seems to be an underlying message as I learn with 
well over 50 reports, not an acknowledgement, not a nod in the 
hallway that they got it, nothing.
    There seems to be a code of don't respond to any reports, 
as I said, I just got my contract halted a day after BIE got my 
OIG report, three employees that same day, ``I told you not to 
respond to OIG.'' If that is the normal response coming from 
employees, I would say that is a problem when you are 
reporting.
    Mr. Grothman. So, you think we have a culture of a bunch of 
people in an agency that are relatively obscure, and because 
they aren't going to get fired, they just figure they can sleep 
through the day, day after day, and month after month.
    Mr. Mayes. They are still there, they haven't been removed, 
all I have seen are some new titles, a few transfers and one 
employee retired 2 years before pension, and still got to keep 
her pension.
    Mr. Grothman. Can you give me an example of the sexual 
assaults that were reported to you?
    Mr. Mayes. Define example.
    Mr. Grothman. That is what I am asking you.
    Mr. Mayes. One was from an employee, and a parent, another 
was from the women themselves, one of the cases the young lady 
came to me shaking. I wasn't the first person and I elevated it 
to law enforcement, and the Haskell investigated report, they 
asked several employees, did they elevate it to law 
enforcement, they all say no. The one employee that did was me, 
which I was required by law to do that.
    But I didn't realize no one else did, and with that 
perpetrator, BIE says ``Oh, it happened off campus.'' With one 
of the women they were talking about, that young lady was 
drugged and taken off campus, it happened on HINU campus.
    Mr. Grothman. So, it sounds like both the Bureau of Indian 
Education and the administration of this campus kind of view 
their jobs as just hang out, collect a paycheck, and do 
nothing.
    Mr. Mayes. Yes, don't ruin the gig by reporting it.
    Mr. Grothman. Not to mention it would take work to report 
it.
    Dr. Gosar. Thanks Glenn, the gentlewoman from Wyoming is 
now recognized for her 5 minutes. Ms. Hageman.
    Ms. Hageman. Thank you, and I want to thank all of you for 
being here today, I would have liked to have spent more time in 
here, hearing your testimony as well as that of the first 
panel, but I have had other hearings that I have needed to 
attend, so thank you for being willing to come and talk to us 
about these important issues.
    Tierra Standing Soldier Thomas, a Haskell student athlete 
who unfortunately could not be with us today, provided 
testimony for the Committee and I want to quote from what she 
said.
    ``I experienced many family, educational, and personal 
struggles during my time at Haskell, for which I received no 
support. In many cases, Haskell administrators exacerbated or 
created challenges, at a Champions of Character event regarding 
suicide in February 2022. As well as during classes, I revealed 
my suicide attempts and had no wellness check done on me. I was 
making a cry for help and I needed someone to conduct a 
wellness check on me, my cry was not heard.''
    She goes on to explain that she was drugged, raped, and 
held against her will for 15 hours off campus. She took 
initiative and approached the university, but received no 
support from Haskell administration, instead of being assisted, 
she was kicked out of Haskell twice due to a low GPA and she 
was denied her Pell Grant. To say that this is unacceptable is 
an understatement.
    I commend Ms. Thomas for speaking out for changes so that 
young women can feel safe on campus and depend on our faculty 
when reporting sexual assault. Unfortunately, the Biden-Harris 
administration has wasted years with inaction but now real 
change must come to Haskell Indian Nations University.
    And I urge Secretary Haaland to do the right thing and that 
is to engage with the students, investigate these issues, and 
root out the corruption at Haskell and BIE. Dr. Mayes I am 
going to direct my questioning to you. How has the student body 
at Haskell reacted to the mistreatment of Ms. Thomas and other 
survivors?
    Mr. Mayes. As far as I am concerned as of one week ago, I 
don't know if something has happened this past week, they 
haven't reached out to her in any format indirectly or 
directly.
    Ms. Hageman. And I understand that you have had other 
students confide in you as they do not trust certain faculty at 
Haskell. Can you give us a bit more detail in that regard?
    Mr. Mayes. Yes, about a month into the Haskell 
investigation, it started July 11, on August 9, I was called 
and requested for help by one Haskell board member. And I can 
share their name outside of session, and then one investigator, 
Erland Paisano. And they said they were having major issues 
getting students to trust them and to go confide in them. So, 
they called me, a male cross-country coach to help them with 
that.
    Which was probably the most concerning issue, one that is 
not my job, I want to report it, not investigate it. But, they 
were able to get a lot of the victims to start coming forward. 
I talked to a couple of women that approached me and I asked 
them, so a few women more brave then me kind of got the other 
women to come forward and give their testimony.
    Ms. Hageman. What is the culture at Haskell that has 
created this kind of a situation?
    Mr. Mayes. Don't report. At some point though the cycle has 
to break. I get people want to pass the buck to the next guy, 
but that is one of my lessons to the students, who is breaking 
the cycle or are you going to get help from outside? And most 
of them say no, so it is like alright, it is your 
responsibility, break the cycle.
    Ms. Hageman. Have you been involved with other universities 
besides Haskell?
    Mr. Mayes. Yes, two.
    Ms. Hageman. And have you encountered these types of issues 
at those universities as well?
    Mr. Mayes. Nonexistent.
    Ms. Hageman. What is the difference?
    Mr. Mayes. The complete fear to report at Haskell due to 
certain alliances.
    Ms. Hageman. What does that mean?
    Mr. Mayes. Certain people figured out who has the 
protection, so new employees will become friends with this one 
group because they get protection, they kind of do each other's 
bidding, so it forms a gangism, as one employee stated, ``hey, 
you probably don't want to listen to me, but don't report it,'' 
and I just said, ``you know what, you are right, I am not going 
to listen to you,'' and then he kind of shook his head and 
walked away. So, the culture is don't report it and get along 
with who is basically getting the most out of the system.
    Ms. Hageman. What is the need for protection, you have used 
that word a couple of times now. What are you referencing?
    Mr. Mayes. For these women, I am not familiar with any 
other cases, somewhat following to see if they somewhat don't 
get triggered seeing the predator. I am not familiar with one 
instance where they remove the predator per report, no review, 
nothing, they would just sign a no contact so the women 
couldn't go certain places that the predators were.
    In the report, they state one of the employees reported for 
sexual assault who is off for 3 to 4 months, which wasn't true, 
he was at our staff meetings, he was teaching on campus, he was 
never off campus, he could have been off campus for a few days 
but they say they reviewed the reports and he was off campus, 
working from home. That is not true.
    Ms. Hageman. I am out of time but I am going to repeat it, 
we need to fix this and we need to fix it now.
    Mr. Mayes. Absolutely.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentlewoman, the gentleman from 
Virginia, Mr. Good is recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Good. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Coach Mayes, when were 
you hired back at Haskell?
    Mr. Mayes. I was officially hired, my first day was July 
15, so 2 years and 4 months after my removal. I didn't have 
pay, and we actually adopted two kids right before we made the 
move to Haskell which added to a lot of stress, they re-opened 
the position, right before January or right after this past 
January, and I was officially offered the position the day the 
reports were released, April 23 of this year.
    But even when I was offered the report, I was getting 
parents calling and emailing me citing they were getting issues 
with previous employees trying to create reports to cancel the 
job offer while I was going through the background 
investigation.
    Mr. Good. So, you were hired 8 days ago?
    Mr. Mayes. Correct.
    Mr. Good. Why do you think they hired you back, why do you 
think the timing was 8 days ago, or what reason did they give 
for why they were hiring you back?
    Mr. Mayes. No reason but I was hired, I was extended the 
job offer 3 or 4 hours after the report released, April 23.
    Mr. Good. Yes, very interesting, Dr. Graham, I would like 
to learn a little more about the structure of how the Federal 
Government manages or doesn't manage the university. When you 
were president, you reported to the Bureau of Indian Education, 
correct?
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Mr. Good. And in your testimony, you referred to BIE 
Director Tony Dearman as your supervisor.
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Mr. Good. But you also said that the Human Resources 
Director of BIE, Jackie Shamblin, was his surrogate, so acting 
supervisor for you I guess?
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Mr. Good. As you said in your testimony, when you were 
hired these two BIE employees, Dearman and Shamblin, warned you 
about ``Chronic problems at Haskell.''
    Mr. Graham. Correct.
    Mr. Good. What did they say were some of those problems at 
that time?
    Mr. Graham. They didn't tell me what the problems were but 
I learned after I arrived on campus that there was major 
nepotism, there were cliques, there was a lot of backstabbing 
and internal problems, just chaos, inner chaos all the time, is 
something they seem to thrive on, and I tried to get a handle 
on that, but by the same token, I was so busy with everything 
else going on, I didn't have time to babysit, I just had to get 
these projects out and going from what Dearman gave me to do.
    Mr. Good. When you are the president of a university, it is 
a 24/7 year-round, it never stops, the campus never sleeps. I 
am familiar with that having worked on a college campus, so 
they referenced chronic problems but they didn't really tell 
you what they specifically were.
    Mr. Graham. No, they didn't tell me what the problems were, 
they just said I had a runaway faculty, and I didn't know what 
that meant until I arrived on campus.
    Mr. Good. That is not unusual unfortunately it seems. But, 
what did they do to try to fix or address these chronic 
problems to your knowledge during, and they have both been 
there for several years, they go back well before your time.
    Mr. Graham. They didn't help me at all, with that, they 
didn't give me any information, everything that was going on I 
disclosed to them, I believe in transparency, so every problem 
that came aboard and of course I talked to Dearman and Hamblin 
every week and sometimes several times a week depending if 
there were major problems and I would report those problems 
and, either ask for guidance, investigations, whatever the 
problems were.
    Mr. Good. So, while Haskell has had six presidents in 8 
years, somehow these two individuals have personally escaped 
any accountability, typical of Federal Government employees I 
might add, and Jackie Shamblin, the HR Officer for BIE, emailed 
students telling them they would never be informed of what 
actions are being taken to correct the abuses at Haskell, 
meaning when Haskell students publish that public letter to 
Secretary Haaland asking for the AIB report it was Shamblin, 
they never got a response from Secretary Haaland.
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Mr. Good. But Shamblin emailed the students and told them 
the students ``would never know what actions are being taking 
to address specific findings from these investigations.''
    Mr. Graham. I find that appalling.
    Mr. Good. Thoughts on that, yes.
    Mr. Graham. That is appalling, that was after my time but 
to me that is not acceptable, and too much of this type of 
stuff is going on, they keep sweeping stuff under the rug. 
Students need to understand what is going on. I had an open-
door policy even though I really didn't have any students on 
campus during COVID, but I maintained open door policies at 
every college and university I have worked at.
    If students had a problem, they would come in and see me. I 
would bring in the faculty member, I would let them know what 
the complaint is, we worked it out. If you don't work it out, 
then I will resolve it one way or another, it is either 
credible, not credible, if the faculty member is at fault, then 
he is going to have a problem with me.
    But what happened here when you say this information's not 
going out to these students, is not acceptable, under any 
standard.
    Mr. Good. Students who are paying to attend the university, 
thanks very much, I yield back.
    Mr. Graham. Absolutely.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman from Virginia, the 
gentleman from Georgia Mr. Collins is recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Collins. Thank you Mr. Chairman, Dr. Graham, could you 
please describe the concerns that you had with the Board of 
Regents after arriving on campus?
    Mr. Graham. I contacted Shamblin within a couple weeks 
after my arrival and basically asked about the Board of Regents 
because I was interested in meeting them. It was very important 
to set up that relationship because I am used to that with 
trustees. And there was a lot of pushback in my questions and I 
finally got to the point where, when was the last time they had 
their background investigations? Because everybody, trustees, 
regents, no matter what you are has to go through a background 
investigation by law, and finally he admitted that these 
trustees hadn't had a background investigation in over 10 years 
and most of them in over 20 years.
    And at that point, I told Shamblin and Dearman that these 
regents will not be allowed on my campus for any reason until 
they successfully complete a background investigation.
    Mr. Collins. In your opinion, why have the background 
checks been ignored for years?
    Mr. Graham. I honestly don't know. In a 2018 report that I 
wasn't privy to because Dearman nor Shamblin told me about 
these reports or the full reports before that and backgrounds 
were mentioned in one of those reports as being a red flag, I 
jumped on that immediately and I started the backgrounds and 
they were willing to back what I was doing because it made them 
look good I guess, I don't know. But, backgrounds are extremely 
important and why they were ignored I can't answer that 
question.
    Mr. Collins. Anyone on the board in jail? Is anyone of the 
Board of Regents in jail right now?
    Mr. Graham. Yes, one of the Board of Regents was just 
recently arrested for attempted murder, arson, and a myriad of 
other felonies. The other regent, who was the president is 
still working as a regent and he himself is a felon for 
domestic violence and other felonies.
    Mr. Collins. So, how did BIE, how did they react when you 
expressed your concerns about the Board of Regents?
    Mr. Graham. There was a standoff at first and I pushed the 
issue that I am not letting these regents on my campus, and 
this has to get done, this is law and this is the way I work, 
this is a standard we have to keep.
    Mr. Collins. Well, speaking to the standards again, I want 
you to try to elaborate a little bit more on your tenure, like 
why were you hired, what were your accomplishments, and just, 
what did you set out to do there?
    Mr. Graham. I wanted to make Haskell the flagship 
university, so my standard and I was waiting to get the vice 
president, the vice president for example, that I hired had 20 
years with the Interior as an administrative judge.
    She also served at Haskell as an adjunct law professor, she 
knew her stuff. That is my vice president and with her I 
expected to hire several more people of that caliber. I also 
wanted to bring in other PhD's because they lack that and I was 
bringing in graduate and doctoral programs.
    I was identifying them, and working with folks to initiate 
these programs. For example, I started the dual enrollment 
program, that was off the ground and issues started as you are 
aware, to raise the numbers of students, because 700 students 
in a university is very small.
    I projected within 3 years I would have over 3,000 students 
on campus. A major problem too at the campus were the student 
retention programs, it was 46 percent. And my doctoral 
dissertation addressed student retention in 87 different areas, 
so I knew how to work that and I worked at other universities 
to bring student retention up. I initiated a 24/7 online, 
distance learning tutoring program for these students that 
could go online, anytime of the day or night and actually meet 
with somebody live on a Zoom call, and not just stem programs.
    Mr. Collins. How was your relationship with the student 
body?
    Mr. Graham. The student body was fine, the student body was 
great, I was connecting with what I could and I was helping 
them, I was getting them new computers, and everything that 
they needed.
    Mr. Collins. Coach Mayes, I wanted to ask you a question in 
line with that too. Why did the students feel so comfortable 
coming to you to report allegations rather than other faculty?
    Mr. Mayes. Once I was reporting small campus, got around, 
and then I have been working with Indian Country since 2014.
    Mr. Collins. How many other faculty members were reporting 
besides you?
    Mr. Mayes. Not in retaliation, I don't know, not aware of 
many cases, but yes, to kind of fully answer your questions, it 
started with Indian Country since 2014, and a lot of these 
tribes, I have coached their families, so it is kind of a long-
standing relationship too. A lot of them I end up coaching 
their brothers, sisters, and hopefully one day some of the kids 
of the runners.
    Mr. Collins. Sorry about that Mr. Chairman, I am out of 
time. I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you. The gentlewoman from New Mexico, Ms. 
Stansbury, the Ranking Member, is recognized for her 5 minutes.
    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and thank you to our 
witnesses for being here today. This is a challenging situation 
to parse out and going back through this Interior report which 
was released earlier last year.
    I think what is evident from the testimony we heard in the 
last panel and from the stories that we have heard shared today 
is that there is a toxic culture at Haskell, period. It is 
toxic, it is affecting the leadership, it is affecting the 
faculty, and it is affecting the students.
    This report is filled with stories of not only the coach 
but also students being bullied by adults who are involved and 
the faculty and leadership of the school.
    Mr. Graham. The former president.
    Ms. Stansbury. And it sounds like, Coach, from your 
testimony, what I understand your testimony to be is that you 
attempted to elevate these issues, almost two dozen times to 
BIE specifically and basically never received a response, is 
that correct?
    Mr. Mayes. Absolutely nothing.
    Ms. Stansbury. So, we have two issues here really. We have 
a toxic work culture that needs to be fixed inside the 
administration and faculty of the school and we have an 
accountability follow up issue with BIE. Would you say that is 
an accurate description of where things are broken?
    Mr. Mayes. Correct, and when I elevated to law enforcement, 
when they went on campus with the sexual assault, they informed 
me, Officer Kelsey Pence, that there were no reports, they 
didn't exist.
    Ms. Stansbury. So, kind of zooming out of the details of 
the ``he said she said,'' what does the toxic culture emanate 
from? I mean, it sounds like it has been there for decades. Is 
it a handful of individuals who do not get along with each 
other that are bullying and harassing personalities? Is it a 
tone that is set by the leadership, where does this toxic 
culture come from at the school?
    Mr. Mayes. It is mostly one group, they are mostly related, 
they have different last names but they are still related, 
which is pretty common in Indian Country, a lot of families, 
brothers and sisters will share different last names. And 
personally I think it started in 1981 with the hire on of 
Gerald Gipp who was hiring members of his family regardless of 
what the legalities were. In one case I was informed of in 
1984----
    Ms. Stansbury. I am sorry, I am going to just reclaim my 
time for a moment if it is OK. Dr. Graham, would you have a 
similar assessment, or what do you think is the source of the 
toxic culture?
    Mr. Graham. Basically the same thing that Mr. Mayes said, 
and also the dragging slow hiring, so when these different 
administrative positions come open, we don't hire right away, 
there is just a major drag at HR.
    So, they take active faculty and make them active vice 
presidents or acting deans, and they are all taking care of 
their buds, their cliques, and more and more toxicity is 
getting passed around through this method. It just doesn't 
work.
    Ms. Stansbury. So, I would like to just say this, I think 
the testimony has made clear that the toxic work environment at 
Haskell needs to be addressed.
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Ms. Stansbury. There is new leadership it sounds like. It 
sounds like the new leadership is trying to address it but it 
has not been totally addressed. We are still having evidence 
come out that it has not been addressed, so for those that are 
in the chain of command, I hope you are listening to this 
hearing, hearing it and knowing that Congress is going to hold 
you accountable for it.
    As far as the BIE, we will be following up with the BIE 
Director and Assistant Secretary about accountability. It is 
unacceptable that the Federal agency who provides oversight for 
this university did not respond to complaints from a faculty 
member.
    That cannot happen, it is a Federal agency with 
responsibilities to the school, and that is our job, to make 
sure that there is appropriate oversight. I do think the 
Assistant Secretary is taking these issues very seriously. I 
had the opportunity to talk to him yesterday, but it is clear 
that whatever is happening in the interface between the 
university and the BIE, that it is broken and there is not 
accountability happening there.
    And I am out of time here, but I would like to ask
    Ms. Martin, I know you were asked this by our Ranking 
Member as well, having listened to the testimony here I think, 
what I am most concerned about is the students of Haskell feel 
safe. I think it is evident that they don't feel safe because 
of the toxic culture, they are being bullied and harassed and 
because this report has not just one but multiple incidents of 
potential sexual assault that happened on campus.
    So, not only how do we change this culture but how do we 
really address it systemically at a university campus where 
people are living on campus and they are separated from the 
general population to ensure that these students are safe?
    Ms. Martin. I will give a two-part answer to that. One part 
is that it is about really focusing on what Title IX and the 
Executive Order require which is paying attention to what is 
necessary to enable a student to truly participate in education 
and making sure that a response to sexual harassment and sexual 
assault on campus is focused on what does the survivor need in 
order to be whole and healthy and fully able to be part of the 
educational experience.
    That is one part of the answer that I think is the focus 
that should drive the reform of policies and practices on 
campus. The other part of the answer I will name is that when 
you are looking at a school with a toxic culture, it is a 
reminder of the importance of enforcement of student's civil 
rights by outside agencies like the Department of Education, as 
a last resort, by students themselves through lawsuits, it is a 
reminder of the importance of Title IX and the Title IX 
regulations as a foundation and as a failsafe for providing the 
basic protections that all students should be able to depend 
on.
    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you Ms. Martin, and I will just say 
this in conclusion, and I appreciate the extra time to ask the 
question, we heard from the Assistant Secretary that they put 
more student support services in place since the release of 
this report.
    But I think even the story of the coach makes clear that 
there are students on campus that don't feel like they have 
anywhere to go to report what has happened to them in a safe 
space. So, the school needs to address that as well. And to do 
so in a more systematic way. So, we appreciate it and thank you 
all, thank you Mr. Chairman.
    Dr. Gosar. I am going follow up where she just left off. 
Ms. Martin, you are looking at this from the outside, so if you 
were the person who's model this university was going to be, 
how would you start with this toxic environment, would you 
start with the board of trustees, I mean, would you get rid of 
them all, get new people? Where would you start?
    Ms. Martin. Well, I would start by trying to identify the 
leaders who I hope some of them are there even if it is not all 
of them who really are committed to creating an inclusive, safe 
campus where students are able to feel supported. And working 
with the leaders who really have that vision for what the 
schools should be. Who are involved and the faculty and 
leadership of the school.Because, I think leaders who are able 
to speak to that vision can bring others along.
    And while, again, I am not an expert in Haskell's culture, 
and it is complicated for sure, it also seems as though there 
are people there who care about the students very much, and I 
think that is the critical starting point.
    Dr. Gosar. Mr. Mayes, I went to school at Creighton 
University in Omaha, do you have any relationships with 
Creighton?
    Mr. Mayes. No I don't believe so.
    Dr. Gosar. Doc, do you know if you had any relations with 
Creighton?
    Mr. Graham. No sir.
    Dr. Gosar. The reason I asked that is Creighton is the 
largest private school in the country with the highest amount 
of Native Americans. They have been very, very gifted Nebraska 
has been and Omaha, Creighton. So, I guess my thinking is, is 
there something we can take maybe from Creighton to get to kind 
of rebuild the culture of success, because I think once you 
spark success it is going to breed success, what are your 
thoughts, Mr. Mayes?
    Mr. Mayes. Especially with the Native Community, since they 
have a sense of community empowerment, it is why I like 
coaching sports, once they are able to see that there is a 
system of trust, they can report something without seeing the 
predator the following day, the following second day, the 
reports are actually heard, there isn't a correlation with the 
women that are reporting sexual abuse are then bullied soon 
after.
    I am not even aware of one of the sexual assault victims 
that wasn't bullied after her reports, so I think the first 
thing is I guess listening to the students taking their reports 
fully serious and following actual policies and procedures, and 
start building trust. It might take a while but start building 
trust.
    Dr. Gosar. Well, I think you have to start somewhere, and 
even one mind abused is too much. It seems like there is a gift 
here and we ought to be really building on that gift. Doc, do 
you have other ideas you might want to share with us?
    Mr. Graham. I would add leadership to that, you have to 
have the correct leader in there and you lead by example, you 
get down in the trenches with the troops, you have to have 
credibility, you have to have integrity, that to me is first 
and foremost.
    And without that, you are going to fall into that toxic 
pattern, if you come in there without any of those abilities. 
And that is something that is learned, that is something that 
is expounded on, and something that is mentored on to your 
subordinates, so you trained your people, I train my people to 
take my place, and they have to do it with leadership, they 
have to have that skillset.
    Dr. Gosar. So, leaders are made and they get people to 
follow right?
    Mr. Graham. Correct.
    Dr. Gosar. That is what I was telling the Assistant 
Secretary was that I am not interested in quantity, I am 
interested in quality, I want to see that quality. And I asked 
him and I said what is your vision, give me a one statement 
vision that you can come up with that will gravitate people 
around you.
    And I think there is a lot to that story. It has been sad, 
I have lived my whole life with tribal members, Wyoming Indian 
School in Wyoming, and 6 months after I graduated, all the kids 
I played against were dead.
    Mr. Graham. Wow.
    Dr. Gosar. Yes, from all sorts of weird things, so there is 
a culture here too that we have to break.
    Mr. Graham. Yes.
    Dr. Gosar. Because there are some excellent minds, some 
wonderful people here, and they have been just trashed by the 
wayside, so I agree with the Ranking Member, this has to come 
about and I think you ought to take this as a special project 
that we have the school answer to us, Congress. That is just 
me, but I think we ought to hold people accountable, if we are 
not willing to, who is? Anybody have any other questions? Last 
comments?
    Mr. Owens. I am going to just go back to good old common 
sense. The way we start with this is we need to fire bad 
people. That is a good start, we have a culture that has been 
going there for decades my friends, it is because there are 
people in power who do not care about these kids, we haven't 
even talked about what kind of outcome they are getting on 
grades, we have no idea.
    I mean, I can imagine if they are dealing with this, then 
they are probably not prepared to go out and build their dreams 
either. So, I have to respectfully just make this one point. 
Title IX has been around for 50 years, I grew up in 
Tallahassee, Florida, there is Florida A&M, there is FSU, I 
went to the University of Miami.
    They are not having these kind of issues, they have the 
same Title IX. This is a problem with people who do not have 
expectations for those kids and they take advantage of them 
because they are entitled, they are bureaucrats that are 
entitled to a paycheck without doing any work, without any 
accountability and they know they are not ever going to get 
fired.
    We are going to change that by the way, I am so thankful 
that you are sitting here and exposing American people to what 
is happening to these good, young people, on these campuses 
nobody sees.
    Out of sight, out of mind is where this evil takes 
advantage of kids, and that is not going to happen anymore. So, 
just know this could be accountability, and accountability 
comes down to oversight, what we do with how we put our funds 
out there, and just like any other college, if they are not 
doing their job, they don't deserve tax payer dollars period.
    And if we are saying they need to get it just because of 
the background, we are not giving these kids the true 
opportunities they need to have, there should be a high 
standard for people teaching and running these colleges, and if 
they are not willing to do that, if they don't fire them, we 
need to start pulling back some funding, and that might give 
them the message that something has to be done.
    Because the kids are the bottom line, that is what we need 
to be focused on. Not the institution, not these bullies, but 
the institution. And I am excited about having a group here 
that really does care about this and we are going to address 
this issue in a big way. I am looking forward to it, I yield 
back.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you the gentleman, the Ranking Member gets 
the final comments.
    Ms. Stansbury. I just want to say thank you again for 
coming to testify, and I am always concerned most about the 
students, but also the faculty and the educators of the school, 
we understand the deep history of Haskell, we understand that 
people are proud to be Haskell graduates.
    So, I just want to say that we are here to perform our 
oversight responsibilities and to help the school get back on 
track. But we also won't step back from our Federal trust 
responsibility to ensure that we are providing an adequate, 
beautiful, and terrific education for any member of any Tribal 
Nation that wants to attend Haskell University because it is a 
good school. So, I just wanted to add that to the mix. We 
appreciate you being here and with that I turn it back to you.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you. One of the things that Congress just 
got from the Supreme Court was the Chevron difference. They 
thought that the agency doesn't have all the rulemaking, 
Congress does, I think this is a golden opportunity for us to 
set that bar in education.
    The trust obligation is the Federal Government's, we are 
the Federal Government, why not? Wouldn't that be something if 
we could actually break this curse, that would be me. I think 
there are lots of assets there and if we save one mind, it is 
worth it.
    So, I will just challenge you with that. Maybe we will have 
to get together a little bit more to make sure we are getting 
this right.
    The members of the Committee may have some other additional 
questions for the witnesses, and we ask that you respond to 
those in writing. Under Committee Rule 3, members of the 
Committee may submit their questions to the Subcommittee Clerk 
by 5 p.m. on July 29. The hearing record will be held open for 
10 business days for those responses. If there is no further 
business, the Subcommittee is adjourned.

    [Whereupon, at 7:10 p.m., the Subcommittees were 
adjourned.]

            [ADDITIONAL MATERIALS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD]

Submissions for the Record by Rep. Gosar

                                                  July 22, 2024    

Hon. Virginia Foxx, Chairwoman
House Committee on Education and the Workforce
Washington, DC

Hon. Burgess Owens, Chairman
Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Development
Washington, DC

Hon. Bruce Westerman, Chairman
House Committee on Natural Resources
Washington, DC

Hon. Paul A. Gosar, Chairman
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
Washington, DC

    Honorable Committee Members:

    My name is Lexie Follette, I am a veteran who served in the United 
States Marine Corps and the Army. I am also the widow of a Navy veteran 
and mother of four children.
    I am an enrolled member of the Ft. Peck Assiniboine and Sioux 
Tribes of Montana and my late husband is an enrolled member of the 
Sisseton Wahpeton Sioux Tribe of South Dakota. All my children are 
enrolled tribal members.
    I am submitting this letter to the record of the 23 July 2024, 
Congressional hearing investigating the conduct and actions of the 
Bureau of Indian Education (BIE) following numerous complaints from 
students and employees at the Haskell Indian Nations University located 
in Lawrence, KS. This submission is to inform the committee that the 
BIE also did not respond adequately, ensure student safety, uphold 
policies or prevent whistleblower retaliation from school leadership at 
the Flandreau Indian Boarding School in South Dakota.
    In the 2022-2023 school year, my daughter attended her senior year 
at the Flandreau Indian School, in honor of her father and I as we are 
both graduated alumni of this school. During this time, my daughter and 
multiple students made me aware of alarming conduct and inappropriate 
behaviors of employees in leadership positions. I submitted numerous 
complaints on their behalf which resulted in an investigation which did 
not improve the environment or the behaviors from the school 
leadership. By the end of the year, I learned nearly every student who 
contacted me had been diagnosed and medicated for depression and 
anxiety while attending the school.
    October 17, 2023, I submitted a 98 paged complaint to the 
Department of the Interior Office of the Inspector General on behalf of 
the students from the previous school year, former students, current 
employees and former employees. I sent a courtesy copy to Madame 
Secretary Deb Haaland and recently sent a copy to Mr. Tony Dearman.
    The complaint cited many issues, but the most concerning safety 
issue were the depression and anxiety diagnosis and treatments of 
minors without notifying the parents or obtaining their consent to 
chemically alter their child's brain chemistry. Furthermore, students 
were not monitored for side effects or changes in behaviors or received 
monthly follow ups while on these medications. This is why parental 
consent and involvement is crucial because they know their child best 
and would notice changes that rotating staff would not. Instead, 
students were written up if they refused to take the medications and 
there was no consideration was given in disciplinary actions, 
suspensions or expulsions as to how these medications may have 
contributed. The school also failed to respond to parents requesting 
504 plans and failed to provide the medically prescribed ACL surgeries 
for two students injured at the school. One of these students had an 
obvious limp because of this injury, however, the school failed to 
provide her accommodations.
    Another student's family doctor had taken the student off the 
depression and anxiety medications once she returned home. The doctor 
mentioned this was the second situation she had encountered regarding 
the same medications, from the same place where the parents were 
neither notified nor consented. When the student returned the following 
school year, the parent informed the school they did not want their 
student on these medications but shortly thereafter, the student 
reported to the parent that the school had put the student back onto 
the medications and were threatening a ``health and safety violation'' 
write up for refusing to take the medicines.
    The BIE recently launched a mental health hotline similar to the 
VA's suicide prevention crisis hotline, however this places the well-
being and mental health of the students the BIE is entrusted with into 
the hands of the student to call and does not mention if the policy if 
an employee is identified by a student as the source of their mental 
distress.
    The DOI OIG's response to the 98 paged complaint (Case OI-HQ-23-
0867-R) stated it would be best addressed by the BIE and referred the 
complaint to the BIE for review and action deemed appropriate giving 
the BIE 90 days to provide the OIG with a response of their findings.
    When the BIE's HR conducted this investigation, students reported 
several concerns with the generalities of the questioning leaving many 
students confused by the investigation, namely first year students who 
had no knowledge of the previous year and many others were under the 
impression the investigation was about bullying by other students. 
General questions warranting a yes or no answer such as do you feel 
safe here is providing inaccurate data. I sent a letter to Mr. Dearman 
regarding the students and parents' concerns, which he forwarded to the 
HR Director Jackie Shamblin to respond. When he did not respond I 
forwarded the email chain to the DOI Special Agent and cc'd Mr. 
Shamblin that I wanted the no response and email thread added to the 
DOI OIG case file.
    These complaints and the complaints from the Haskell University are 
not due to a lack of policies, rather they are stemming from the lack 
of holding employees in school leadership positions accountable when 
they are reported repeatedly for policy violations. The BIE also must 
be held accountable for not ensuring school leadership are meeting the 
standards and for not addressing the repeated reports of many BIE 
schools reporting toxic work environments and red flags of leadership 
issues.
    Last school year, Vice Principal Sheryl Burkhart and Home Living 
Director, Jamerson Ferrell at the Flandreau Indian School went against 
their first line officer's directive to not take away cell phones by 
changing the student handbook. Vice Principal Burkhart abused this rule 
by confiscating cell phones overnight and suspending students who did 
not put their phone in their lockers during school hours. These are the 
type of red flag behaviors that are inadequately addressed by the BIE, 
which only encourages other questionable behaviors, such as Mr. Ferrell 
appointing the school's boiler operator as a deciding panel member of a 
student's expulsion appeal. The question remains of many other students 
has the boiler operator decided on the fate of their education.
    Making more policies will not solve any issues if employees are not 
held accountable for disregarding previous BIE policies, procedures and 
directives.
    The complaints from the Haskell Indian Nations University, Chemawa, 
Riverside, St. Stephens and more, now including the Flandreau Indian 
School are a result of the same source; poor leadership allowed to 
benefit regardless because of poor oversights, failure to follow 
through and follow up once complaints have been identified and 
inadequate accountability.

        ``When a problem occurs once it is an incident, when it occurs 
        twice it becomes a coincident, but when the same problem occurs 
        more than three times, now it's on purpose.''

                                            CW4 S. Ryan, Army Retired  

    I thank the committee members for your time and attention on this 
most important matter.

            Respectfully,

                                            Lexie Follette,
                                                        USMC/Army  

                                 ______
                                 
                                                  July 19, 2024    

Hon. Bruce Westerman, Chairman
House Committee on Natural Resources

Hon. Virginia Fox, Chairwoman
House Committee on Education and the Workforce
Washington, DC

ATTN: Michelle Lane, Staff Director
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation


    Dear Chairman Westerman and Chairwoman:

    I am the former Seventh President of Haskell Indian Nations 
University and retired as a Research Analyst for the Bureau of Indian 
Education in March 2023. Prior to these roles I served as the Vice-
President of Academics for 10 years, and 13 years as the Social Work 
Faculty. My contributions to Haskell lasted 32 years and included 
numerous acting and interim positions.
    To assist the Committee, I am submitting these notes to the Joint 
Congressional Committee on Natural Resources, and the Committee on 
Education and the Workforce which are scheduled to hold a joint 
Congressional Oversight hearing on the misconduct allegations at 
Haskell Indian Nations on Tuesday, July 23, 2024. This was reported in 
an article by the Lawrence Journal World on Thursday, July 18, 2024.
    Since 2014, I have participated in on-going discussions with 
current and former BIE Directors, Haskell staff, faculty, alumni, 
students; the National Haskell Board of Regents, and Congressional 
leaders in both the Senate and House of Representatives. These 
discussions focused on options for growth and autonomy, identifying 
solutions to change onerous federal rules and regulations, as well as 
the financial disparities that limited growth of Haskell, degree 
programs, faculty numbers, students and services to meet the need of 
high numbers of first-generation college students.
    I have consistently advocated on behalf of Haskell for comparable 
operational funding, construction funding and endowment funding based 
on the unique trust responsibilities of the Department of Interior and 
the Bureau of Indian Education for the education of American Indian and 
Alaska Natives. I have promoted the notion that ``trust education 
should not be inferior education'' and supported legislation that 
supports autonomy, as well as the Indian Self-Determination and 
Education Act.
    When comparing Haskell, a federally controlled BIE institution; 
with federally funded colleges and universities, such as Gallaudet 
University, Howard University and the Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities, I was shocked with the disparity of funding for Haskell 
and similar sized federally funded colleges. I was also amazed by the 
significant autonomy and level of funding the federally funded colleges 
received. Over a decade ago, this triggered my pursuit of options. 
Federally funded colleges are not controlled and limited by decisions 
made by a federal bureaucracy, nor are these colleges and universities 
required to operate first in accordance with bureaucratic practices, 
federal rules and regulations, and a secondary or third focus, 
operating as an institution of higher education. The model used by the 
BIE is a relic of the past, with no investment for the future or 
growth. Change is needed.
The Structure of Haskell

    Haskell operates as a ``federally controlled'' entity, under the 
Department of Interior, Bureau of Indian Education (BIE). Haskell is 
subject to the decision-making and priorities of BIE, federal rules and 
regulations, and overall bureaucratic practices of the BIE. However, 
there appears to be inconsistency in abiding by these rules and 
regulations. Some changes have occurred but take considerable time and 
effort without any feedback or use.
    As the Director of the Bureau of Indian Education, Tony Dearman is 
responsible for all actions in the BIE and at Haskell, including 
approval of changes for the agency. The BIE Director, selects, hires, 
fires, and supervises the President, evaluates the performance of the 
President, determines the budget appropriations for Haskell, and 
assigns projects to the Haskell President, that include assignments 
outside the purview of Haskell.
    Many of the responsibilities in a college or university would be 
that of an independent Board of Regents or Board of Trustees and not 
the responsibility of a federal bureaucrat. Presidents are hired and 
fired by the Board of Regents and not by the Director of BIE. Under BIE 
rules, the National Haskell Board of Regents is considered an Advisory 
Board by BIE, and operates without any meaningful authority or 
decision-making; as typically exists at colleges and universities.
    The BIE lack of understanding of the expectations and requirements 
of higher education has resulted in failed decision-making and ongoing 
negative press that undermine public confidence and notoriety that 
damage the university. Options exist but are dismissed by the Bureau of 
Indian Education. These include moving Haskell from the ``federally-
controlled'' model to a ``federally-funded'' entity.
Federally funded options

    The model of Howard University, Gallaudet University and the 
Historically Black Colleges and Universities (all federally funded) 
best address the need for a model that would ensure the autonomy and 
funding Haskell needs. The ability to secure operational funding, 
endowment funding and construction funding comparable to the formula 
used for the HBCU's would ensure growth and opportunities previously 
denied to Haskell. This shift would continue to recognize the trust 
responsibilities of the federal government for the education of 
American Indians/Alaska Natives, under a different umbrella.
    The entire structure of the University would change from that of a 
quasi-federal agency/institution of higher education. Many of the 
complaints, investigations and final decisions are loosely handled 
using bureau rules that can be manipulated depending on the issue and 
person. These are long time antics of the Bureau of Indian Affairs and 
more recently of the Bureau of Indian Education. Investigations that 
deny the accused the right to due process have become routine.
    Any change of the status quo creates worries, including concerns of 
retaliation for speaking honestly about the truth. There are also 
concerns that any intervention by Congress will not benefit Haskell but 
instead be an effort to shut down this historic institution as a result 
of BIE failures. Concerns also challenge the impact on current 
employees who may lose wages, federal benefits or retirement in the 
federal government if change occurs. However, there are solutions that 
could be built into any blueprint.
    Concerns have also been raised about whether the ``trust 
obligations'' for the education of American Indian and Alaska Native 
students would be lost if a shift from BIE to the Department of 
Education would occur. In the chartering documents of Howard 
University, inclusion of language specific to the responsibility to 
education for African Americans was included which appears to be 
reparation. Similar unique language would be included to honor the 
trust responsibilities of the federal government that Haskell carries 
out.
    Moving from a federally controlled college status to a federally 
funded model would be a timely process that will require input from 
Haskell students and alumni and employees, as well as consultation with 
federally-recognized Tribes, all of which are essential to any change 
initiative based on empowerment. It's time to move forward with 
solutions that will strengthen Haskell Indian Nations University.

    Table One: The benefits of transitioning Haskell to a ``federally 
funded college'' category under the auspices of the Department of 
Education would 1) increase the autonomy of Haskell, 2) improve access 
to funding by participation in the Federal Endowment Match, as well as 
access to significant construction funds, 3) substantial increases in 
federal appropriations for the operations of Haskell, 4) enable Haskell 
to utilize management practices and decision making consistent with 
colleges and universities and 5) greater advocacy in the federal 
systems for advancing and strengthening this historic and unique 
institution and 6) protect the trust responsibilities for education for 
American Indian/Alaska Native students.

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            Sincerely,

                                  Venida S. Chenault, Ph.D,
                                                 Lawrence, KS 66044

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Submissions for the Record by Rep. Hageman

                        Statement for the Record
                     Tierra Standing Soldier Thomas

    My name is Tierra Standing Soldier Thomas. I have been facing many 
struggles while studying at Haskell Indian Nations University starting 
in the fall 2021 semester. I experienced many family, educational, and 
personal struggles during my time at Haskell for which I received no 
support. In many cases, Haskell administrators exacerbated or created 
challenges. These struggles included:

     grieving the death of three family members within a period 
            of 8 months

     the arrest of a father figure (uncle) in spring 2022

     six hospitalizations in a year and a half period due to 
            severe allergic reactions, medication side effects, 
            injuries, sickness, a severe concussion caused by unknown 
            circumstances, and a suicide attempt

     a hostile school and athletic environment due to bullying 
            from student-athletes

     intimidating meetings with Judith Gipp and Tonia Salvini 
            where students were threatened and forced under duress to 
            sign a no-contact order for Coach Mayes

     mental health challenges such as ADHD, anxiety, 
            depression, suicidal ideations, and several suicide 
            attempts

     sexual assault by another Haskell student in spring 2022, 
            of which I will further detail

    I was walking around for hours and sometimes walking miles in 
circles because my mental state was so poor in order to keep myself 
from unaliving. November 4, 2021 is when I learned I was no longer able 
to have contact with former Coach Clay Mayes, who had been a big 
support in my push toward advocating that I needed mental help and 
trying to stay on task with my work. It had been a little over a month 
since I had buried two family members that I was close with and I was 
trying to cope and grieve in a stressful environment.
    After the hostile practice environment and being pulled from 
competing in cross country meets, I quit the track team due to so much 
emotional turmoil in a short amount of time and grew extremely 
depressed. Over the semester, I had made numerous jokes about ending my 
life, slowly went from excellent attendance to not showing up, and 
didn't know how to ask for help any further. I distanced myself from 
others, walked for hours even in the rain, and stopped participating in 
the sport I love most. I attempted to take my life over winter break.
    At a Champions of Character event regarding suicide in February of 
2022, as well as during classes, I revealed my suicide attempts and had 
no wellness check done on me. I was making a cry for help and I needed 
someone to conduct a wellness check on me. My cry was not heard. I then 
experienced a knee injury which greatly impacted my mental state 
because I was not able to use my main coping mechanism: running. I 
would often break down crying trying to make it around campus because 
of the pain and having to climb down two flights of stairs any time I 
wanted to leave my dorm. This made it difficult to attend class, go to 
the food hall, and carry on daily activities. I felt extremely hopeless 
and was not sure what to do regarding my mental health and classes.
    April 26, 2022, another student at Haskell drugged me, raped me, 
and held me against my will for 15 hours off campus. I was terrified to 
go anywhere around Haskell campus in fear of running into my 
perpetrator again. I had lost all sense of my personal identity due to 
denial, a regular occurrence in rape victims. I showed clear signs of 
PTSD such as not eating, being unable to sleep, becoming quieter, and 
avoiding eye contact. I ignored calls from family and friends because I 
felt so much shame and didn't feel like my body belonged to me. With 
the fear from running into the person again and PTSD combined, I 
couldn't emotionally stay invested into class.
    May 12, 2022, I emailed McKinney seeking plausible extensions in my 
classes due to recent trauma, hospital visits, and losing family. May 
15, I discussed thoughts of suicide and rape to an RA and she reported 
it. May 16, 2022, I met with Danelle McKinney about my rape and 
received a no-contact order against my perpetrator. The order did not 
protect me from the perpetrator living in student housing, attending 
the university, or from having to run into them on campus. No 
consequences were given to that person with little transparency. 
McKinney stated she would look into extensions, but there was no follow 
up and I was not informed of a no-credit option. May 20, 2022, I was 
told I did not qualify for summer housing due to my GPA and had to work 
with McKinney to get a room for summer school.
    All of these circumstances, compiled with my pre-existing ADHD 
diagnosis and mental health struggles including suicidal ideations and 
attempts, made it impossible to keep up with school work. I took the 
initiative to gain a referral to our community mental health facility 
and to seek out tutoring, but received no support from Haskell 
administration. I reached out to Dannelle McKinney, Alta St. Pierre, 
Matthew Downing, Judith Gipp, Albert Gipp, Freda Gipp, Tina Tortillott, 
and various professors for assistance such as extensions. Over and 
over, I expressed I was overwhelmed with grief, felt alone, felt 
trapped, was having problems with my classes after trying to reach out, 
and wanted mental health resources. Ultimately, instead of being 
assisted, I was kicked out of Haskell twice due to a low GPA and denied 
my Pell grant during my time at Haskell between Spring 2022 and Spring 
2024 including summer school. I have been proactive throughout the year 
when I needed help and was not offered the proper services I needed.
    I had some hope when investigators came onto Haskell's campus to 
investigate wrongdoing in the summer of 2022. After being interrogated 
by them for over 3 hours, reliving my trauma I had not yet processed, 
they reassured me that the report would be made public and I would be 
protected from retaliation. I have yet to see the report and shortly 
after making my investigative statement, I was kicked out of Haskell.
    I was an MMIW who survived. I'm asking for accountability. 
Accountability for Pell I haven't received, accountability for all of 
the retaliation I've been subjected to. I want acknowledgement for the 
emotional distress I've gone through. I am a victim who has had to 
overcome many obstacles and barriers that should never have been in 
place. I'm tired of living in fear of my predator, of school staff, or 
everything I do being used against me. I want to see victims at Haskell 
protected. I want to see the proper legal procedures and support occur 
for victims. I want to have the opportunity to pursue my education at a 
place I feel protected and safe in. I want the predators at Haskell 
removed. I don't want young girls to worry about seeing their predator. 
I'm asking that my words hold meaning and enact the change Haskell 
needs to be safer and follow the legal conduct required of them.
    Pilamayaye (thank you).