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                  A CALL TO ACTION: MEETING THE NEEDS
                     OF THE SPINAL CORD INJURY AND
                  DISORDERS (SCI/D) VETERAN COMMUNITY

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                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                        THURSDAY, JUNE 13, 2024

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                     COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

                     MIKE BOST, Illinois, Chairman

AUMUA AMATA COLEMAN RADEWAGEN,       MARK TAKANO, California, Ranking 
    American Samoa, Vice-Chairwoman      Member
JACK BERGMAN, Michigan               JULIA BROWNLEY, California
NANCY MACE, South Carolina           MIKE LEVIN, California
MATTHEW M. ROSENDALE, SR., Montana   CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire
MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa       FRANK J. MRVAN, Indiana
GREGORY F. MURPHY, North Carolina    SHEILA CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK, 
C. SCOTT FRANKLIN, Florida               Florida
DERRICK VAN ORDEN, Wisconsin         CHRISTOPHER R. DELUZIO, 
MORGAN LUTTRELL, Texas                   Pennsylvania
JUAN CISCOMANI, Arizona              MORGAN MCGARVEY, Kentucky
ELIJAH CRANE, Arizona                DELIA C. RAMIREZ, Illinois
KEITH SELF, Texas                    GREG LANDSMAN, Ohio
JENNIFER A. KIGGANS, Virginia        NIKKI BUDZINSKI, Illinois

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                           OPENING STATEMENTS

The Honorable Mike Bost, Chairman................................     1
The Honorable Mark Takano, Ranking Member........................     3

                               WITNESSES
                                Panel I

Dr. Erica Scavella, Assistant Under Secretary for Health for 
  Clinical Services, Veterans Health Administration, U.S. 
  Department of Veterans Affairs.................................     4

        Accompanied by:

    Mr. Jeffrey London, Executive Director, Medical Disability 
        Examination Office, Veterans Benefits Administration, 
        U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs

Mr. Steve Bracci, Director, Claims and Medical Exams Benefits 
  Inspection Division, Office of Inspector General, U.S. 
  Department of Veterans Affairs.................................     6

                                Panel II

Mr. Robert Thomas, National President and Chairman of the Board, 
  Paralyzed Veterans of America..................................    21

Mr. Carl Blake, Chief Executive Officer, Paralyzed Veterans of 
  America........................................................    23

Ms. Sonya Sotak, Chief Government Affairs Officer, I AM ALS......    24

Dr. B. Jenny Kiratli, Member, American Federation of Government 
  Employees......................................................    26

                                APPENDIX
                    Prepared Statements Of Witnesses

Dr. Erica Scavella Prepared Statement............................    37
Mr. Steve Bracci Prepared Statement..............................    42
Mr. Robert Thomas Prepared Statement.............................    49
Mr. Carl Blake Prepared Statement................................    55
Ms. Sonya Sotak Prepared Statement...............................    68
Dr. B. Jenny Kiratli Prepared Statement..........................    72

                       Statements For The Record

MitoSense, Inc. Prepared Statement...............................    75
Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation Prepared Statement.........    78
Neuralink Prepared Statement.....................................    80

 
                  A CALL TO ACTION: MEETING THE NEEDS
                     OF THE SPINAL CORD INJURY AND
                  DISORDERS (SCI/D) VETERAN COMMUNITY

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                        THURSDAY, JUNE 13, 2024

                    Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
                             U.S. House of Representatives,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:47 a.m., in 
room 360, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Mike Bost 
(chairman of the committee) presiding.
    Present: Representatives Bost, Bergman, Miller-Meeks, Van 
Orden, Luttrell, Takano, Brownley, Cherfilus-McCormick, 
Ramirez, Landsman, and Budzinski.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF MIKE BOST, CHAIRMAN

    The Chairman. Good morning. The committee will come to 
order, and I want to welcome the witnesses to our hearing 
today. I do want to apologize for the late start, but we are 
going to get started here. Today, we will be discussing the 
care and benefits available to veterans living with spinal cord 
injuries and disorders. You know, we have not had a hearing on 
this issue during my time on this committee, and the oversight 
in this area, it has been long overdue.
    Before we dive into it, though, there is something that I 
want to say, and I think it is important that I do. I am very 
disappointed to see that the U.S. Department of Veterans 
Affairs (VA) did not send a witness from the Spinal Cord Injury 
and Disorder, or the SCI/D, system. That is what this hearing 
is all about. For the VA, should have prioritized having 
someone here from that office that is tasked with helping the 
veterans and their availability to receive those benefits. I 
think it is important that the people in this room, the 
veterans as well as the taxpayers and the veterans who are 
watching this hearing, this is the third time this year where 
we have been declined by the VA to have the witnesses that we 
requested. It does not matter whether we are Republican. It 
does not matter whether we are Democrat. It does not matter 
whether the ranking member, when he was in the majority. It is 
really upsetting whenever the VA makes decisions to overrule 
our decision on who we want and accept your judgment over ours.
    It is the responsibility of this committee to make sure VA 
takes care of all veterans. It is our responsibility for doing 
that to give oversight, and we actually do understand who we 
need to talk to. It is the third time this year that VA has 
tried to make a decision over this committee on who we need to 
talk to. That is not fair to the veterans and it is not fair to 
the taxpayers.
    What you need to understand is we are the Congress of the 
United States. You are an agency, yes, agency controlled by the 
administration, but your budget is ours. Oversight is ours. We 
have to do our job for the American people, whether it is a 
Republican sitting here or a Democrat sitting here. It is not 
the job of the VA to decide who is going to sit before us. It 
is our job to request and your job to deliver. I hope I am 
really clear on what I just said.
    With that, VA has long been recognized for its unique 
ability to provide top-notch SCI/D care. VA has 25 SCI/D 
centers across the country, each specifically designed to meet 
the--just a minute, to meet the veterans issues head on and 
meet those veterans with spinal cord injuries where it is 
convenient for them. Let me put in perspective what I mean.
    One of the centers is in Hines, Illinois, which is about 3 
hours from the top of my district, which means it is 6 hours 
from the bottom of my district. That is a long time to drive 
for an appointment. I want to ensure VA is meeting the veterans 
where they are with the healthcare they have earned. It is that 
simple.
    Now, we have heard stories from veterans about missing 
doctors' appointments due to late or inadequate transportation 
with no coordination from VA. Those missed appointments have 
contributed to about $4 billion cost to the Department from 
what we can calculate.
    We have also heard concerns about staffing shortages that 
have prevented SCI/D centers from operating at full capacity, 
as well as issues with patient safety practices in the VA's 
facilities. Some of the VA's shortfalls in this area are 
addressed in H.R. 8371, the Elizabeth Dole Act, including home 
care, long-term care, and access to SCI/D systems of care. It 
is incredibly important that we pass this important legislation 
to ensure VA can meet the need of all veterans. I hope my 
colleagues on the other side of the aisle, and I am sure they 
will, will put politics aside and support this life-saving 
bill.
    Today, we will also examine VA's failure to ensure all 
disability exams are conducted in properly equipped facilities. 
A recent VA Inspector General (IG) report showed that a large 
number of contract exam facilities did not comply with Federal 
disability law. In this day and age, that is unacceptable.
    Let us be perfectly clear. This is not a mere suggestion 
for the Department. It is what we expect. VA must ensure that 
the veterans they serve have access to accessible and safe exam 
facilities. Without that, veterans are being restricted from 
the benefits they have earned. We know that disability claims 
processing itself is difficult to navigate. Veterans should not 
also face physical barriers to getting an exam.
    Access to benefits, including VA's Specialty Adaptive 
Housing Grant program, are also crucial. Yet we understand that 
the application, the wait times for this program can present 
challenges for veterans and their families that they need help. 
Veterans are required to receive three estimates before they 
can get approval, and it can be difficult to find builders to 
do the work, especially if you are in a rural area. The 
advantage of keeping disabled veterans in their homes not only 
saves money, but it also gives the veterans and their families 
peace of mind. Congress has recently invested in this program. 
VA must make the rubber meet the road so severely disabled 
veterans continue to have access to the benefits that they have 
earned.
    Now, I am eager to hear from the VA today about how they 
plan to fix these years-long problems. We will also learn from 
the expert witnesses who will speak about what more we can do 
to improve access to care and services for catastrophic 
disabled veteran community. I also want to welcome the many 
members of the Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA) who are 
attending the hearing here today. Thank you all for making the 
trip to DC, and I appreciate that you are spending some time 
here with us this morning.
    Now I would like to recognize Ranking Member Takano for his 
opening comments.

        OPENING STATEMENT OF MARK TAKANO, RANKING MEMBER

    Mr. Takano. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am pleased to 
be here today to examine how we are meeting the needs of 
veterans with spinal cord injuries and disorders, sometimes 
referred to as SCI/D.
    It is estimated that around a quarter of those with spinal 
cord injuries and disorders are veterans. Many patients live 
with the effects of these injuries for decades. It is crucial 
that VA can provide resources and help meet the needs of 
veterans with spinal cord injuries and disorders at each stage 
in their lifetime of care. Now, this includes access to 
equipment to assist them with mobility, ensuring a high level 
of care coordination to provide appropriate care for both 
preventative and chronic healthcare needs, and access to long-
term care in settings that make the most sense for the veteran 
and their loved ones.
    As you will hear from many of our witnesses today, VA is 
uniquely positioned among healthcare systems to provide this 
standard of care. Its hub-and-spoke model is intended to help 
ensure that veterans are connected to the same high standard of 
care regardless of where they live. This does not happen by 
accident. VA's position as the best provider of care for 
veterans with spinal cord injuries relies on continual 
investments in VA's infrastructure, workforce, long-term care 
services and supports, and other benefits for veterans with 
spinal cord injuries and their caregivers.
    I share the concerns of some of our second panel witnesses 
about VA's ongoing strategic pause in hiring and the impact it 
is having on staffing and care for veterans with spinal cord 
injuries. The highly specialized training and staffing ratios 
necessary to provide appropriate care to veterans with spinal 
cord injuries means that it can be challenging to fully staff 
VA's SCI/D system of care. However, workforce shortages lead to 
beds going unfilled, decreased access to care, and worse 
outcomes for veterans with spinal cord injuries. We must remain 
vigilant and sure that vacancies at SCI/D centers are 
continuously filled.
    Now, because of the advanced training required of 
healthcare providers that are caring for veterans with spinal 
cord injuries, special attention must be paid to bolstering the 
workforce pipeline. It is vital to ensure VA is training and 
retaining an appropriate workforce for this population, and I 
look forward to discussing ways VA is doing this.
    Now, improving VA's infrastructure has long been a priority 
of mine, but the importance of this goal cannot be overstated 
when it comes to serving veterans with spinal cord injuries. VA 
must focus on infrastructure projects that build more capacity 
for SCI/D beds and ensure additional access within the hub-and-
spoke model. At the same time, many existing VA facilities are 
in need of repairs or retrofits to ensure that they meet 
evolving standards of care for SCI/D veterans. Now, meeting 
both these needs will take thoughtful investment and planning, 
both from Congress and VA, and I look forward to working with 
VA on these vital projects.
    Finally, veterans need to be able to receive care in the 
venue that best fits their lives and needs, and many veterans 
rely on home-and community-based services for healthcare and 
support. Through the Veteran Directed Care program, veterans 
with spinal cord injuries have the ability to hire their own 
personal care aides and engage in decisions about their care 
that ensures it fits their needs and their lives. Most 
importantly, it is crucial that veterans receive the care that 
they need in the community without being subject to statutory 
spending caps that could drive them to institutionalized 
settings of care.
    Now, my colleague, Congresswoman Julia Brownley's bill, the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act, H.R. 542, meets these needs. It 
passed the House in December, and I urge the Senate to do the 
right thing, to move it forward. I agree with Chairman Bost 
that the politics must be set aside. The last I heard, his 
party is in the majority, and they could bring a bill to the 
floor at any time to address those needs. I would ask that he 
bring such a bill to the floor without the sort of--well, with 
a bipartisan agreement, basically, on what it contains. There 
is bipartisan agreement on H.R. 542.
    I just want to thank all of our witnesses for being here 
today. I look forward to hearing from each of you about how we 
can ensure the well-being of all veterans living with spinal 
cord injuries.
    I thank the chairman again, and I yield back.
    The Chairman. I thank the ranking member for his opening 
statement. We will now turn to our witnesses.
    Testifying before us today we have Dr. Erica Scavella, the 
Assistant Under Secretary for Health for Clinical Services, and 
she is accompanied by Mr. Jeffrey London, the Executive 
Director of the Medical Disability Examinations Office. Also on 
the panel, we have Mr. Steve Bracci, the Director of Claims and 
Medical Exams Benefits Inspection Division of the Office of 
Inspector General (OIG).
    Dr. Scavella, you are recognized for 5 minutes to give your 
opening testimony.

                  STATEMENT OF ERICA SCAVELLA

    Dr. Scavella. Good morning, Chairman Bost, Ranking Member 
Takano, and committee members. My name is Dr. Erica Scavella. I 
am the Assistant Under Secretary for Health for Clinical 
Services, and in that role I directly, through my Deputy 
Assistant Under Secretary, oversee the Spinal Cord Injuries and 
Disorders System Executive Director. I am accompanied by Mr. 
Jeffrey London, the Executive Director for the Medical 
Disability Examination Office with the Veterans Benefits 
Administration. Thank you for this invitation to testify before 
you today.
    Spinal cord injuries and disorders, or SCI/D, present 
unique challenges and complexities, often requiring specialized 
care and support. At VA, we are dedicated to addressing the 
diverse needs of veterans with spinal cord injury and 
disorders, ensuring access to rehabilitative services, 
specialty benefits and services, and assistive technologies.
    VA's SCI/D system of care is a comprehensive network 
designed to deliver exceptional care. This system operates 
under a hub and spokes model wherein 25 regional SCI/D Centers 
serve as hubs providing comprehensive care, while primary care 
services are rendered at VA Medical Centers, acting as spokes, 
by the SCI/D patient-aligned care teams. Mental health services 
are seamlessly integrated into the care plan, ensuring a 
holistic approach. Mobility interventions and walking aids, 
including walkers and canes, manual and motorized wheelchairs, 
and exoskeletons, are tailored to fit the individual needs of 
veterans, enhancing their independence and quality of life. The 
system also offers a range of long-term care options, including 
noninstitutional and home-based care, as well as support 
through the Caregiver Support Program, ensuring a continuum of 
care for those in need.
    While serving as a Marine on his second tour in the Vietnam 
War, Mr. Ron Kovich suffered a spinal cord injury that left him 
paralyzed from the chest down. For the past 53 years, Mr. 
Kovich has received his primary and specialty care through VA. 
This past July, on his 78th birthday, Mr. Kovich penned an open 
letter sharing his thoughts on his VA experiences. In his 
letter, he stated, ``I have been a patient in the Long Beach VA 
spinal cord injury hospital for the past week for a bladder 
infection. The care has been excellent. Aides, nurses, doctors 
have been terrific. Things have vastly improved over the years 
over here. Ever since I was a patient in 1971, I have had to 
come to this hospital many times over the years and I have seen 
many changes. I can honestly say that the care here of our 
veterans is now second to none.''
    VA strives to ensure every veteran's experience echoes that 
of Mr. Kovich. To accomplish this, we provide various 
initiatives and programs to improve the accessibility in 
medical facilities, including providing eligible veterans with 
reimbursement for self-arranged travel, special mode 
transportation, door-to-door appointments, and funding for the 
Highly Rural Transportation Grant service for travel 
coordination in highly rural counties. VA often continuously 
upgrades its facilities, integrates assistive technologies, and 
deploys mobile units for accessibility, prioritizing women 
veterans' unique needs with specialized facilities for their 
privacy, comfort, and tailored care. Outside of the facility, 
VA provides disability compensation, independent living 
training, and housing benefits, including the Special Adaptive 
Housing Grant program you mentioned, providing financial 
assistance for home modifications to address accessibility 
needs.
    Additionally, we oversee contract examinations to ensure 
facility safety, cleanliness, and accessibility, and we work to 
increase the examination of our care through telehealth and 
acceptable clinical evidence exams. The Veteran Readiness and 
Employment Program additionally assists disabled veterans in 
preparing for, obtaining, and maintaining suitable employment.
    Finally, one of our most successful and impactful programs, 
the VA Adaptive Sports Clinics, provides the ability to empower 
veterans with spinal cord injury and disorders and engages them 
in physical activities tailored to their unique needs and 
abilities. These programs, which I have witnessed myself, allow 
veterans the opportunity to participate in a variety of sports 
and recreational activities, promoting physical fitness, social 
interaction, and overall well-being, completing the continuum 
of care.
    Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, this concludes my 
testimony. My colleague and I are ready to answer any questions 
you may have.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Erica Scavella Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Thank you, Dr. Scavella.
    Mr. Bracci, you are recognized for 5 minutes to give the 
OIG's testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF STEVE BRACCI

    Mr. Bracci. Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, and 
committee members, I appreciate the opportunity to discuss our 
review of Veterans Benefits Administration's (VBA) oversight of 
the contract medical exam facilities used for veterans 
disability claims.
    VBA has paid contractors billions of dollars since 2017 for 
these exams, which may be needed to decide claims. The exams 
are typically conducted at the medical examiner's place of 
business, and those facilities must be accessible, safe, and 
clean. The four exam vendors that VBA uses are required to 
inspect these facilities for compliance with American with 
Disabilities Act (ADA) and Occupational Safety and Health 
Administration (OSHA) standards. We focused on veterans' 
feedback and experiences regarding the accessibility, safety, 
and cleanliness of the contract exam facilities. While we are 
not ADA or OSHA compliance officials able to cite specific 
violations, we did identify deficiencies at 113 of the 135 
facilities we visited. These deficiencies created needless 
burdens and safety concerns for veterans with mobility issues 
and those with spinal cord injuries and disorders. We found 
that the deficiencies went largely undetected by Medical 
Disability Examination Office (MDEO) because that office did 
not provide sufficient oversight of the vendors' self-
certification of ADA and OSHA compliance.
    In 2021, VA modified the vendors' contracts by removing the 
requirement for MDEO to conduct random as well as complaint-
based site visits. Notably, in Fiscal Year 2022, MDEO did not 
conduct any site visits based on veterans' complaints. Our 
finding was bolstered by four determinations.
    First, MDEO lacked independent access to the current 
inventory of contract facilities. By depending on the vendors 
to provide this information, MDEO could have incomplete lists. 
In fact, two vendors could not provide a definitive number of 
exam locations. Our first recommendation asked MDEO to maintain 
a list of the contracted facilities. While this may be the 
contractor's proprietary information, VA routinely handles this 
critical information like this in other areas and can protect 
this information in the same manner.
    Second, MDEO allowed the vendors to give customer 
satisfaction surveys rating their own performance to veterans 
instead of using an independent survey vendor. This may have 
resulted in VBA lacking a full picture of veterans' 
experiences. Therefore, we recommended that veterans receive 
the comment cards directly from an impartial survey provider.
    Third, MDEO lacked formal guidance for staff conducting 
exam facility site visits. MDEO staff were not trained on the 
standards of review and their checklists were not specific 
enough. For example, MDEO staff did not know specific criteria, 
like the minimum space needed for a wheelchair to turn. Also, 
we found their site visits were based on general observation of 
the facilities. We made three recommendations to develop formal 
site visit procedures, update checklists, and create 
standardized training for staff.
    Fourth, MDEO did not validate the vendors' self-
certification of ADA and OSHA compliance. The vendors' self-
certification process was not comprehensive or reliable, likely 
contributing to the deficiencies. Importantly, MDEO was not 
doing reviews based on veterans' complaints. We recommended 
that VBA conduct complaint-based inspections and enforced the 
requirement for vendors to inspect and recertify the 
accessibility, safety, and cleanliness of all facilities. 
Because of accessibility deficiencies, some veterans could not 
complete exams at those facilities. Additionally, some 
facilities had safety deficiencies, including locations with 
blocked exit routes or expired fire extinguishers. Other 
facilities lacked clean common areas or single-use medical 
supplies.
    ADA deficiencies at facilities may make them unable to 
accommodate veterans with mobility issues. Our report has 
numerous examples of facilities where wheelchair users could 
not enter the location, so an exam was not possible. 
Rescheduling exams after veterans have needlessly traveled to a 
facility takes time and could delay their claim. We recommended 
that VBA analyze all veterans' complaints and create action 
plans to remedy them.
    Our last recommendation asked VBA to work with its vendors 
to determine if a veteran requires accessibility arrangements 
before the exam. All recommendations are open and we will 
monitor VBA's progress on implementing the corrective action 
plans to address the hardships and safety issues that veterans 
with mobility challenges have experienced during medical exams.
    Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I am happy to 
answer any questions that you may have.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Steve Bracci Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Bracci. We are now going to go 
to questions, and I will yield myself 5 minutes for the first 
questions.
    Dr. Scavella, we have heard that VA transportation is often 
inconsistent and not accessible to SCI/D veterans, which result 
in missing medical appointments. Can you tell me how many 
missed appointments are the result of VA transportation issues?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. Our goal is to 
make sure we are providing access to our veterans, so we do 
have a number of vehicles to be used by our veterans who may be 
trying to get to appointments. If a veteran who has spinal cord 
injury and disorders self-schedules their appointment, we will 
reimburse them. If they live in a highly rural program or area, 
we have a highly rural transportation program. We also operate 
a Veterans Transportation Program through volunteers, and then 
we do have the beneficiary travel as well as the Veterans 
Transportation Program. I will need to ask for a number. I do 
not have a number of how many veterans may have missed an 
appointment.
    The Chairman. Okay. That is something we need to know from 
the committee. Also, with that, if you can check your records 
and have try to get a calculation, because we try to get our 
calculation, I said in my opening statement, we believe it is 
$4 million that it has cost to miss those appointments. The 
number of appointments and then how much it has actually cost, 
how much it has ran over.
    Mr. Bracci, can you please explain to me the problems with 
the audio booth that is pictured right here behind me?
    Mr. Bracci. Yes, sir. There are a couple of issues with 
that particular audio booth that we saw. The first is 
accessibility. There was not a ramp available where a veteran 
in a wheelchair could get up into the booth. The second issue 
is the actual size of the booth. It was not large enough to 
accommodate a veteran in a wheelchair. The minimum dimensions 
are 60 inches in diameter, and it did not meet that standard.
    This is an important issue because we did identify 
instances where veterans had accidents and they tripped and 
fell trying to get in and out of an audio booth like this, and 
ended up--we saw one case where a veteran fractured their hip 
and required surgery. It is not just a matter of complying with 
standards. It has real impact on veteran safety.
    The Chairman. You answered my second question. That would 
have been, have there been injuries and even severe injuries 
occur because of things like this?
    Mr. Bracci. Yes, based on the work we have done, there 
certainly have been. We identified--I think we have three 
examples in our report that showed issues where veterans have 
had accidents and have been harmed.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Dr. Scavella, what is the average 
time it takes from when a veteran applies for special housing 
adaption to when the contractors begin construction of that 
adaption?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. I am going to 
turn that over to Mr. London, who is the executive for the 
Veterans Benefits Administration.
    Mr. London. Thank you very much for the question. Of 
course, it is variable, depending on the types of adaptations 
that a veteran needs to meet his or her or their needs. Also 
the location of the particular residence that is being modified 
and availability of contractors. Generally speaking, it can 
take over 90 days in many cases to accomplish what you asked.
    The Chairman. Then the follow-up question on that is, and I 
know you cannot do anything about location, but what else can 
we do to speed up the process? Every day is a bad day with not 
having access to this.
    Mr. London. I understand the question, and I agree with 
your sentiment. Some of the things that we have done to 
expedite the process to assist the veteran, because one of the 
things that needs to happen is the veteran has to choose the 
contractor, but we do not leave the veteran by his or herself 
to make that decision. We have a list of contractors that have 
successfully completed projects in the area to help expedite 
the process, and they also have familiarity with the details of 
what is required for these special needs.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Dr. Scavella, I am concerned about 
the staffing level at SCI/D centers. Do you believe that VA 
medical facilities are properly staffed for all SCI/D beds?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. Our goal is to 
make sure we are providing the care that the veterans need. We 
do have strategic hiring and spinal cord injury disorders is 
one of the areas that we have specifically communicated we 
expect those areas to be fully staffed. We currently have a 9 
percent vacancy rate across the country, which is a decrease in 
the past 5 years. If you look at our statistics between Fiscal 
Year 2019 and Fiscal Year 2024, we have over 232 percent growth 
in that particular area across the country to include all 
staff.
    The Chairman. Well, that is, I guess, how you would respond 
to the VA facilities. There are a lot of claims out there that 
you are short staff nurses in and around the country.
    Dr. Scavella. There is a healthcare shortage generally, 
both within and outside of VA, which we are contending with. We 
are being creative in our salaries, making sure that we are 
being competitive, making sure that we provide the opportunity 
for growth once employed by VA, to make sure that our 
environment of working is something that is desirable by people 
so that they will be willing to come into VA. We are making 
sure that our benefits packages for employees are enticing as 
well.
    We are also collaborating with university affiliates to 
make sure that we bring in the top talent into our 
organization. We realize that people who train within VA, like 
myself, tend to come to VA to work permanently.
    The Chairman. My time has expired by over a minute, but 
thank you very much for the--and I will now recognize the 
ranking member for his questions.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bracci, thank you 
for the recent OIG report on accessibility and safety at 
contract facilities for disability exams. Veterans may only use 
these facilities for a one-time exam, yet OIG found physical 
barriers that hindered access for veterans who use wheelchairs, 
among other things. Now, I am concerned that there may be 
similar issues with private sector providers that veterans are 
referred to once they start using the VA healthcare system. Has 
OIG looked at VA's community care network providers and whether 
they are meeting ADA and OSHA standards?
    Mr. Bracci. To my knowledge, we have not looked at that 
issue.
    Mr. Takano. Okay. Well, thank you. Would you tell the 
Inspector General Missal that I would like him to look into 
this issue?
    Mr. Bracci. Yes, I will.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you. Dr. Scavella, I understand that as 
of last month, only 153 of the 181 long-term care beds that VA 
is required to have in operation at its SCI/D centers are 
actually available for veterans. Can you explain why?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question, Congressman 
Takano. We have some challenges in some places, doing staffing, 
and then there are a variety of reasons that may affect our 
ability to have a bed open. If we do have a bed available, but 
it is occupied by a veteran who may have a certain infectious 
disease, we may have to not use the other beds in that room.
    Mr. Takano. Okay. I am hearing staffing, though, is the 
kind of predominant reason, lack of staff. These beds are empty 
because there is no one there to staff the veterans who might 
fill them. Just to be clear, veterans with SCI/D need access to 
long-term care beds at VA. Is there a waiting list?
    Dr. Scavella. We do not have patients who are waiting to 
get in. If we are unable to provide the care within our 
organization because of the acute need of this illness that 
they have, we will make sure that we coordinate with our 
community partners, recognizing or transfer to other facilities 
within our VA.
    Mr. Takano. You are saying there is no waiting list because 
you place them in community partners?
    Dr. Scavella. If we are unable to house them within one of 
our hubs or provide care in our spokes--it is a complicated 
answer.
    Mr. Takano. Okay. Yes, I could go into whether or not those 
community care facilities rise or meet the level that is 
provided at VA. I want to go down another train of thought 
here.
    I am sure you understand that my concern that VA is 
proposing to move up to $10 billion from direct care and 
medical facility infrastructure to community care in Fiscal 
Year 2025 to cover an expected shortfall. Now, this certainly 
will not help fill the vacancies in staffing that we are 
talking about in VA's SCI/D system of care. How can VA make the 
needed investments in the SCI/D workforce to provide the best 
care for veterans if we are diverting so much funding to 
community care?
    Dr. Scavella. As I have said earlier, our goal is to try to 
keep our veterans in our system. We want to make sure that we 
are providing the care for veterans. We have increased our 
staffing in spinal cord injuries and disorder by over 230 
percent in the past 5 years, and we are making sure that we are 
enticing employees to come into our system as a provider of 
choice.
    Mr. Takano. I get that. The administration is making a 
decision to move money out of direct care, which you need you 
need the staffing. Beds are empty, and that is forcing you to 
put people into the community already.
    I share the concerns that PVA expresses in its testimony 
about VA's decision to severely limit hiring in fiscal years 
2024 and 2025. VA issued a May 31 memo directing facilities to 
continue filling vacancies in VA's Spinal Cord Injury System of 
Care. How is VA going to hold the field accountable and ensure 
that there is sufficient workforce to meet the needs of SCI/D 
veterans?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. We are coming on 
the heels of a remarkable 61,000--over 61,000 employees who 
have been brought into our system, mostly in direct care 
positions, and we have increased the staffing in our spinal 
cord injury and disorders. We only have a 9 percent vacancy, 
which is lower than it has been. We continue to prioritize that 
through our strategic hiring to make sure that we are providing 
that care.
    Mr. Takano. Excuse me for interrupting, but have you set a 
target date for the field to address staffing challenges that 
led to the closure of long-term care beds specifically? I mean, 
is there a target for that?
    Dr. Scavella. The request is to make sure we are 
strategically hiring, realizing that it takes time to bring in 
nurses and physicians, specifically because of the requirements 
to make sure that their credentials are what they say. We have 
a directive or memo from the Undersecretary for Health 
regarding how we should be moving forward. It is clear to our 
organizations, and the expectation is that those direct care 
appointments and opportunities would be provided first. Our 
plan is to get those employees out there.
    Mr. Takano. I am glad it is prioritized, but has he set a 
target date?
    Dr. Scavella. I would have to look back at the memo to give 
you that date.
    Mr. Takano. Could you get back to me on that? I hope, if 
there is not one, that there will be a concrete target date set 
to fill these beds--to staff these beds.
    I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Ranking Member.
    Dr. Miller-Meeks.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you very much, Chairman Bost. Thank 
the witnesses for being here.
    It is a little bit surreal to me because I started out my 
career as a second lieutenant nurse in the Army, stationed at 
Walter Reed on Ward 10, the neurosurgery floor. Taking care of 
traumatic brain injuries, which we did not call them that at 
the time, spinal cord injuries, I flipped my share of Stryker 
frames and also worked with halos. My husband, interestingly 
enough, got out of the military to get his Bachelor of Science 
in Nursing (BSN). He was an E6 Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) 
when we met, and took care of a spinal cord injured veteran as 
a private LPN to do that before the VA provided that care. I 
know how challenging this can be.
    Dr. Scavella, according to some of the data obtained by 
committee staff, we know that 18 percent of patients seen in 
the past 3 years for spinal cord injuries and disorders were 
also seen for substance use disorder or had that diagnosis. Do 
you believe that the VA has the capacity provide inpatient 
mental health and substance use disorder care?
    Dr. Scavella. Dr. Miller-Meeks, thank you for that 
question. We do feel as if we have that ability because we are 
an integrated healthcare system. Mental health is embedded in 
the patient-aligned care teams that provide primary care for 
this population of veterans. If they require substance use 
disorder on an inpatient setting, we are able to provide that 
care as well. We do have systems across the--services across 
the system.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Are the SC--and this is, again, 
reminiscent of the old, old Walter Reed. Are the SCI/D units 
using four patient bed models in their centers, and do you 
believe that having four patients in a room is appropriate for 
minimizing risk of infection and creating a healing 
environment?
    Dr. Scavella. Yes. Congresswoman Miller-Meeks, thank you 
for that question. We have older facilities, as you just 
reminded us of, that do have four beds in some rooms. We are 
constructing facilities that do not have that configuration. 
Our goal is to try to reduce the size of the rooms to make sure 
that we are giving patients the privacy both from, you know, a 
mental capacity and from a healthcare capacity.
    That is not the standard at this point in construction. 
When and where possible, we will not use all four beds in a 
room to make sure that we are giving patients the privacy that 
they require.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you. Just to follow up on 
Representative Takano's question, what are the main barriers, 
and you may have answered this, to staffing SCI/D centers as 
opposed to other VA medical facilities?
    Dr. Scavella. Yes. Thank you for that question. We 
understand that this is a highly skilled area, as you just 
mentioned, during your experience. These veterans require lots 
of care, lots of patience, and so it takes a certain type of 
clinician or professional to be a provider of that care. Making 
sure that we recruit, retain the highest skilled employees in 
those areas is really important. We want to make sure that they 
have the highest quality and so we review that on a regular 
basis through our ongoing professional practice evaluation. We 
also want to make sure that once we bring them in, that we are 
giving them the tools to grow as professionals, to make sure 
that they stay with us and continue to serve veterans.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. I would say it was some of the most 
rewarding medical care as a nurse or a doctor that I had ever 
administered.
    Mr. Blake, the committee is aware of a few promising 
technologies. I think we cannot have this hearing without 
mentioning the innovation that is occurring in this space, 
mainly brain-machine interfaces, which hold immense promise for 
catastrophically disabled veterans. What research or outreach 
has PVA done in this space and technology and its key players?
    Excuse me, second panel. Thank you very much. I yield back 
my time, but I will submit the questions for the record.
    The Chairman. Representative Brownley.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you. Dr. Scavella, you testified, I 
think, in response to the chairman's question, that you do not 
know how many missed appointments there are due to 
transportation. Why would you ever turn down a catastrophically 
disabled veteran who had travel issues once they got to the VA? 
Why would you ever turn them down for his or her appointment?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. I am not aware 
of us turning anybody away, and that is why I do not think I 
can answer that question. We would make sure that we are 
providing that care, whether they are late, by a day or by a 
minute. It is important that we are providing the care when and 
where they need it.
    If we are, for whatever reason, whatever the condition is 
of that veteran, if they are too ill for the capabilities of 
the facility that they show up in, we will make sure that we 
get them to the appropriate level of care, whether it is in the 
VA system or in the community. Obviously, our goal is to try to 
keep them within our system because of all the things I have 
talked about with continuity, making sure that we can provide 
that care, not just for whatever the issue is, but the whole 
health of the veteran.
    Ms. Brownley. What are your--how would you describe your 
best practices for the LGBTQ community for women who are 
catastrophically disabled?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. We appreciate 
legislation that has helped us to ensure that women veterans 
who have spinal cord injury and disorders can receive the care 
in-house or at home that they require, as well as for things 
such as mammography, which is difficult related to positioning 
them. We are very grateful for that.
    Our goal, through the messaging from the Secretary through 
to each employee, is to make sure that we are providing care 
for every veteran who has served. Our mission statement has 
changed to reflect that, and both the Secretary, the Deputy 
Secretary, who is very concerned about us, making sure that we 
are here for women veterans who may not see their place, that 
we are providing that open and welcome care.
    Ms. Brownley. What about the LGBTQ?
    Dr. Scavella. LGBTQ, we have several different projects 
related to making sure that we are being open. Currently, June 
is Pride Month, so we are recognizing our population of both 
employees and veterans during this month to make sure that we 
are providing that care, that people know that they can see 
themselves as their authentic selves here at work. There are a 
lot of things ongoing to make sure that we are being open and 
responsive to the population.
    Ms. Brownley. My understanding is when women with spinal 
cord injuries or disorders show up at a health clinic or a 
medical center, that they are then required to go to an SCI/D 
center first in order to be referred to by an ob-gyn. Is that 
true?
    Dr. Scavella. We are going to try to provide the care to a 
veteran who may show up in whatever care place she may show up.
    Ms. Brownley. I understand that is your goal, but I want to 
know what the reality is happening today.
    Dr. Scavella. When we have a new patient come in, if they 
are coming in for their care, if they are spinal cord injury 
and disorder disorders veteran, we would want to make sure that 
we are tying them in with that population to provide that care. 
If they are coming in for women's health services and we can 
provide that care in the women's health clinic, we will do 
that.
    Ms. Brownley. Basically, you are saying that is not really 
happening. If they show up at a medical center or health 
clinic, they are not getting referred to an SCI/D center?
    Dr. Scavella. Unless you have a specific instance that you 
would like me to look into, I am unaware of that.
    Ms. Brownley. Okay, Okay. Can you speak a little bit to the 
differences between the Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Healthcare 
and Benefits Improvement Act and the standalone bill, that was 
supported in bipartisan way, I will add, the Elizabeth Dole 
Home Care Act. Can you talk a little bit about the differences 
in what the VA really supports in terms of those two bills?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question, Congresswoman 
Brownley. I will have to take that back. I do not have the 
Department's technical review of those at my fingertips at this 
point, so I cannot speak freely about that.
    Ms. Brownley. Great. Well, the last thing I will just say, 
too, is having had a meeting in my office yesterday, that I 
know that there are PVA members in this room who have 
personally experienced being turned away after traveling to VA 
appointments. I would really encourage you to speak with them 
and hear their stories because I think what you are saying and 
what we are hearing from PVA members do not line up. Obviously 
we need to get to the bottom of that. I would appreciate it.
    With that, I yield back.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Representative Brownley.
    Representative Luttrell, you are recognized.
    Mr. Luttrell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Scavella, if I 
were you, I would take a hard look at the room behind you 
before you get out of here and leave, because they were shaking 
their heads to Ms. Brownley's point. That is something you are 
going to want to have an answer to when you engage with the 
committee. Okay? How long have you been in this position?
    Dr. Scavella. I have been in this position since January 
2022. I have been at the VA for 25 years.
    Mr. Luttrell. Twenty-five years. Mr. Barachi, that IG 
report, are there any bullet points on that report that have 
been replicated over previous years?
    Mr. Bracci. Some common themes. You know, as far as the 
contract exam program, we have been focusing on that for 
several years now because of the millions of veterans that 
impact----
    Mr. Luttrell. What discrepancies that we are seeing in the 
VA system that are ongoing?
    Mr. Bracci. I would say that just the oversight by MDEO, we 
see that continuously. I will say that they address issues as 
we identify them and as we make recommendations, but it is the 
proactive oversight up front.
    Mr. Luttrell. Well, the oversight report that you submitted 
and the previous oversights report that we have engaged with 
are stating the same thing over and over again. Dr. Scavella, 
can you tell me why the VA system is, I guess in my opinion, I 
am going to say, taking this kind of haphazardly and not 
engaging with--I mean, when you have spinal cord injuries--
again, I am saying because I am looking behind you and I am 
seeing everybody. Right?
    I really want to know why this--and the Secretary's number 
one priority is suicide, and I appreciate that wholeheartedly. 
When our veterans have lost the ability to be mobile, amongst 
other things, everyone is neck and neck. If we continue to have 
an IG report that is pretty much beating the hell out of the 
VA, I want to know why the leadership is not taking advantage 
of the situation and fixing the problem.
    You have not given us any dates. I have listened to the 
committee members, including the ranking member, ask questions. 
What are the dates? The dates. In the military, we ask for 
dates. Those are hard lines because we function that way. That 
is how we operate. I want to know when the VA is going to throw 
us a hard time and say, hey, this is when we are going to fix 
this. Can you answer that question for me?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question, Congressman 
Luttrell. We are making sure that we are answering the mail 
when it comes to these findings. I am in the Veterans Health 
Administration (VHA).
    Mr. Luttrell. Well, what does that mean?
    Dr. Scavella. I am going to turn this question over to the 
Veterans Benefit Administration, who runs this program. I do 
not oversee it.
    Mr. Luttrell. Mr. London.
    Mr. London. Congressman Luttrell, thank you very much for 
the question. To answer your question specifically, the 
recommendations that OIG identified in the report, will all be 
satisfied by the end of this fiscal year, so by September 30. 
Three of the recommendations we have already implemented, and 
we will provide all of the evidence to OIG after they are 
completed on September 30.
    Mr. Luttrell. September 30, that is a hard time. That OIG 
report is going to be completely resolved?
    Mr. London. Yes, sir, and, yes, sir. Last year, when I 
testified before your subcommittee, you challenged me to make 
sure that you were going to hold me accountable. You can hold 
me accountable for those dates as well.
    Mr. Luttrell. Absolutely. Thank you, sir. I respect your 
leadership and honesty. Thank you for doing that.
    My second question is, I ran into a lovely young lady. She 
was over here in the Longworth Building. She had--and for life 
of me, I cannot remember the exact mechanism that she--she has 
a robotic mechanism that allows exoskeleton. Thank you, Mr. Van 
Orden. Hearing her story of what she had to go through to get 
that, she ended up having to pay for it on her own, her and her 
family. She was telling me the story. She was a Marine, by the 
way, so you can only imagine how engaging that story was. My 
curiosity is, why has not the VA stepped up in that space?
    Dr. Scavella. Sure. Thank you for that question, Mr. 
Luttrell. When it comes to exoskeletons, because of the level 
of independence that is required, there are certain 
requirements that need to be in place in order to determine 
which veterans are best suited to actually have an exoskeleton. 
We have to weigh the benefits and the risks. The benefits are 
increased mobility and increased autonomy. However, the 
manufacturers of exoskeletons require the assistance of another 
person. Even though a veteran may be moving around, in order to 
get into and out of that equipment, they do require another 
person to be around. That is stated by our veterans as the 
largest barrier to them, actually.
    Mr. Luttrell. Sure. Yes, her father was with her. I think 
there may be a communication breakdown because the VA did not 
come through with her, and she benefits greatly because of her 
exoskeleton. I do not know by, with, and through the 
organization how we need to move the pieces on the chessboard 
to fix this. I think there is a way to do that to fix this 
problem set. I just would ask the VA to take a harder look at 
the advancements in technology for our members in need.
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that statement. We are 
continuing to look at innovative projects and programs to 
support our veterans. In 2016, I am not sure when she received 
her exoskeleton, we did devise a specific type of evaluation 
for those veterans who are interested in exoskeleton. There are 
a number of other types of innovative technologies to include 
neurostimulation and other types of equipment that can help our 
veterans who have spinal cord injury and disorder. Again, 
everything is evaluated on a case-by-case basis to make sure 
that it is the safest for veterans.
    The downside, unfortunately, of some of these is because of 
the mobility issues, is that they can have skin breakdown, 
which can lead to infections and other problems, as well as 
some other neuromotor issues that can happen with spinal cord 
injury disorders veterans. We need to make sure that we are 
providing care that is not only what they want, but what we 
think is safe.
    Mr. Luttrell. Thank you, Doctor.
    I yield back, sir.
    The Chairman. Representative Landsman., you are recognized.
    Mr. Landsman. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for the 
hearing, and thank you all for being here.
    The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report that 
my colleagues have been talking about, we are talking about 
here the number of deficiencies. You know, something like 85 
percent of the facilities had one or more deficiencies. I do 
not want to get into that. I mean, I appreciate the comment 
about the report and the fact that the recommendations will be 
dealt with in some period of time.
    I have a larger question which I typically ask around 
continuous improvement and hospitals in general. We think of 
them as places where, you know, good things happen and bad 
things do not, though we know and you all know, the folks here 
know, that bad things happen all the time. The bad things are 
really bad in some instances. I mean, these are adverse events 
or serious safety events, medical errors, these kinds of 
things.
    I bring those up because in Cincinnati, we have a 
Children's Hospital which is now ranked, I believe, number one, 
but it is one, two, three every year. They got that way based 
on a commitment to being the best at getting better. That is 
what the board decided. That is what the leadership decided. 
That is what surgeons and nurses and everyone affiliated with 
the Children's Hospital in Cincinnati decided. It took them 
years, but they started with the serious safety events, and 
they wanted to get that to zero, because the only number that 
was acceptable is zero. They have not had a serious safety 
event in over 2 years, and it led them to get very serious 
about everything, from post-surgical infection rates, to the 
customer experience and things like this, this GAO report and 
deficiencies.
    They, you know, so, for example, they had a million--they 
got a 96 percent satisfaction rate. One of the board members 1 
year said that that is good, but we see a million people every 
year, so that means 40,000 people were unsatisfied. Let us do 
better. It was that attitude. Now they are--you know, they have 
much higher satisfaction rates.
    I am curious about, you know, because you all deal with 
some of the most significant and complicated medical issues, 
and I am curious, what approach do you all have now as it 
relates to getting better, the measures that you use? What does 
it look like in terms of the culture? How would you describe 
where you are at now versus where you would like to be?
    Dr. Scavella. Yes, thank you for that question, Mr. 
Landsman. We are constantly striving to improve the care we 
provide within our organization, and we also have the same type 
of stretch goal, to have no complications, no falls, no 
infections, things like that. We have a continuous improvement 
process that takes place at the medical centers individually.
    I do want to make a distinction that the concerns raised in 
the report were related to the oversight of external 
organizations that we are sending veterans to as opposed to our 
medical centers themselves as--.
    Mr. Landsman. Yes, to that. This was just one data point, 
and it had to do with care unrelated to yours. The adverse 
events or medical errors associated with community providers 
was 2X in one particular area. We have contracts with those 
organizations and presumably they could, you know, ascribe to 
or be required to ascribe to the same continuous improvement 
and performance measures as us. What does that look like?
    Dr. Scavella. Right. One of the things I will talk, and I 
will let Mr. London add to this answer, is that we are 
increasing the number of visits that we are conducting to the 
those facilities. You know, this is coming off the tail of the 
pandemic where first we did not travel because it was unsafe 
and then there was still a restriction on travel.
    Mr. London, would you like to add to that?
    Mr. London. Yes. Very similarly, we started traveling in 
April 2022 to do site visits. Since that time, we have done 
over 700, including an additional 300 virtual visits. We plan 
to continue to do those and increase the number of visits that 
we are going to have going forward to make sure that we are 
continuously improving.
    Mr. Landsman. I appreciate it. My time is up. Thank you. I 
yield back.
    The Chairman. Mr. Van Orden.
    Mr. Van Orden. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Dr. Scavella, we keep hearing the same words and phrases 
all the time: continuously improving, doing our best, we are 
shooting this. We keep hearing the same stuff over and over and 
over again. We are trying to get better. We are trying. We are 
trying.
    Will you turn around, please? I would like you to get the 
view that--I am serious. Will you please turn around? This is 
the view that Congressman Luttrell had of these people that are 
permanently assigned to having to have artificial apparatuses 
to function and live. As your Department continuously strives 
to improve and get better and do all this stuff, and the IG 
report just says you are not, they are still stuck in those 
chairs, ma'am, while you get to go home, and while your staff 
that is continuously improving gets to go run in a field with 
their family, and they do not get to do that.
    I am thoroughly unimpressed with your Department's 
performance. I think that the IG report says that you guys are 
failing. When is someone at the Veterans Affairs, when is 
someone at the VA going to be held accountable to the point 
where they are not working there anymore?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. When we do see 
performance issues, we have to document those and go through a 
process to separate someone from employment. In those 
instances, whether it is related to poor care or poor 
coordination of care, we take those actions.
    Mr. Van Orden. When is the last time you have fired someone 
from the VA for poor performance?
    Dr. Scavella. I am not overseeing direct patient care, so 
my answer to that question would not really be illustrative of 
what is happening in the field.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay. For what period of time did you not do 
performance oversight visits during the COVID-19 public health 
emergency? Was it the entire time?
    Dr. Scavella. I will have to turn that over to Mr. London 
because these were for the Benefits Administration.
    Mr. London. Thank you very much for the question. Up until 
from March 2020 to April 2022, we were precluded from in-person 
travel.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay, so what happened during that period of 
time? The vendors have been doing stuff the whole time, right?
    Mr. London. Yes, sir. The vendors were responsible 
contractually to ensure that each facility that they are used 
to send our veterans for examinations were safe, sound, and met 
the requirements of the contract to include OSHA and ADA.
    Mr. Van Orden. Did you sign an employment contract, sir?
    Mr. London. Did I sign an employment contract?
    Mr. Van Orden. Yes. Like it says, Department of Veterans 
Affairs.
    Mr. London. I am employed by the Department of Veterans 
Affairs, yes, sir.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay. You signed an employment contract to 
be held accountable to the people that are sitting behind you, 
essentially in wheelchairs. Correct? Yet you failed to do your 
job during the entire COVID-19 thing, but you expected other 
people to do theirs, is that right?
    Mr. London. Mr. Van Orden, I appreciate your question. I 
want to make clear that I joined this office in December 2021. 
As soon as we were required or allowed to travel, I actually 
went with the team and did site visits personally to make sure 
that these sites met requirements. As soon as I was able----
    Mr. Van Orden. Who is your predecessor?
    Mr. London [continuing]. under my accountability, sir, that 
is what I am here to do.
    Mr. Van Orden. Mr. London, who is your predecessor?
    Mr. London. My predecessor is now retired.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay. Did they retire with full benefits?
    Mr. London. I am unaware of his situation.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay. I think you are seeing where I am 
going here.
    Mr. London. I do, sir.
    Mr. Van Orden. Consistently, the theme that I get from the 
Veterans Affairs Administration is that the Veterans Affairs 
Administration is putting the Veterans Affairs Administration 
above the veterans. That is not why you are here. It is not why 
we are here. You guys have to understand, your bureaucracy is 
not more important than the people sitting behind you in 
wheelchairs who are trapped in that reality, and they cannot 
escape that reality.
    They are clapping for the hope that there will be 
accountability in the Veterans Affairs Administration. I join 
them.
    With that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Representative Budzinski.
    Ms. Budzinski. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good afternoon, 
everyone. I am glad we are having this important conversation 
today about the unique issues that are affecting our veterans 
with spinal cord injuries and disorders, SCI/D.
    As my colleagues have spoken to and the OIG report 
outlined, there is a lot of work to be done for this vulnerable 
community. I want to focus on an area that I am particularly 
interested in seeing improvements, which is with the veterans--
the women veterans living with SCI/D. I have attended several 
congressional women veterans roundtables with VSOs who are 
leading in the women's space, including Paralyzed Veterans of 
America.
    I just recently hosted my second women veterans roundtable 
at home in my district and have heard specific concerns related 
to today's topic. Women veterans already face very unique 
barriers when seeking care, and those barriers are only 
exacerbated among women veterans living with SCI/D. Many of our 
health clinics or specialty areas within VA continue to lack 
basic accessibility measures for those with of SCI/D, and the 
cooperation among the SCI/D system and women's health 
facilities continues to be severely lacking.
    As you know, one of the main SCI/D centers in the midwest 
is located in the St. Louis VA system, which serves many 
veterans, including many in the southern part of my district in 
Illinois, and I want to ensure we are equipping it with the 
resources needed to provide adequate care for women vets living 
with SCI/D.
    Dr. Scavella, I believe that the VA continues to be the 
best system for our vets with SCI/D to get care, but we have to 
improve what I believe to be communication between systems. My 
first question for you is, you know, what steps is the VA going 
to take to ensure better cooperation and continuum of care 
between SCI/D systems and women health clinics in particular?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. We continue to 
partner with our women's health clinics to make sure that they 
are able to meet the unique needs of the spinal cord injury and 
disorder community. We are making sure that facilities have the 
appropriate equipment as well as space to make sure that our 
veterans who are women coming in for gender-specific care or 
other care are afforded the privacy, the comfort that they are 
entitled to. Those are things that are undergoing.
    The Women's Health Innovation and Staff Enhancement (WHISE) 
funding has been particularly useful in making sure that we 
have the ability to provide that care, as well as other pieces 
of legislation that specifically address mammography and access 
for women who are spinal cord injury and disorders.
    Ms. Budzinski. Is there anything specifically that you 
could speak to just in observations on what women's health 
clinics are equipped with today that would be something 
immediately helpful to help those women veterans with SCI/D 
kind of better integrate into a women's health clinic?
    Dr. Scavella. Yes, thank you for that question. When we are 
constructing newer facilities, we are ensuring that doorways 
are wide enough, that rooms are able to be modified and 
transitioned so that we can accommodate veterans who may be 
coming in using motorized wheelchairs, which tend to be larger. 
Then we can do appropriate gender-specific care in those spaces 
with our employees who are skilled and trained in those areas.
    That is what we are doing with our newer facilities. We do 
recognize that some of our older facilities have some more 
challenging navigation, especially for some of the newer 
motorized wheelchairs that may not be able to get through those 
spaces.
    Ms. Budzinski. Okay. I wanted to highlight, there have been 
instances of women with SCI/D getting a late diagnosis because 
they had to put off appointments due to these accessibility 
issues at their nearest women's VA clinics. This is especially 
true, as you have just highlighted, for women with SCI/D who 
are using wheelchairs.
    Dr. Scavella, how is the VA going to improve access? You 
talked about the needs, but what are kind of immediate next 
steps that we can do regarding access to gender-specific care 
for women living with SCI/D and how can we ensure facilities? 
Again, you pointed out the things that need to happen, but what 
can we do to take immediate action to make sure that is 
guaranteed so our women veterans get the care they need?
    Dr. Scavella. Yes, so we will make sure that we talk to 
each of our veterans to understand exactly what they need. One 
thing that we are making sure is happening is for veterans who 
are coming in with spinal cord injury and disorders, we want to 
make sure that all routine annual screening is completed, 
whether we are talking about our women or our men, and that 
those things are not afterthoughts. As part of their patient-
aligned care teams, they are specialized in spinal cord injury 
and disorders. At those spokes or those centers, those hubs, we 
are making sure that that is part of the care.
    It may look different. We may not bring you physically to a 
place to get that care. We can provide that care to you either 
in the facility, in the hospital, or in your home. Then there 
is telehealth as well as other modalities to make sure that we 
are doing what we need to do.
    Ms. Budzinski. Okay, thank you. Last, PVA leaders testified 
at a recent Senate hearing that when providers are made 
available to SCI/D clinics to provide ob-gyn services, they are 
often general practitioners that are unable to answer questions 
specific to women vets living with SCI/D.
    Dr. Scavella, again, what can the VA do to better prepare 
practitioners to provide culturally competent care for women 
veterans living with SCI/D that need these services?
    Dr. Scavella. Thank you for that question. We do have a 
number of gynecologists, obstetrician/gynecologists who are 
employed by VA. Then we do have a number that are in partner 
with our university affiliates providing that care. Those are 
two of the ways we can make sure they are receiving the highly 
skilled gender-specific care that they require.
    Then if we do have an internist or another specialty that 
has the skills and the training to provide gender-specific 
care, we just make sure that they are educated on this 
particular population. We have ongoing engagement with the 
Spinal Cord Injuries and Disorders National Program Office to 
provide training specific to our veterans as well as other 
types of engagements face-to-face, virtual, on an ongoing basis 
as well as a community of practice. We are really making sure 
that we are giving our employees the skills that they need, as 
well as bringing in the skilled providers, physicians to 
provide that care.
    Ms. Budzinski. Thank you very much. I yield back my time.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Scavella and Mr. 
London and Mr. Bracci for testifying today. You are excused.
    We need to--we would like the second panel of witnesses to 
approach the witness table and get ready. Thank you.
    I would like to welcome Mr. Robert Thomas, the national 
president and chairman of the board of the Paralyzed Veterans 
of America. Accompanying him is Mr. Carl Blake, the executive 
officer for Paralyzed Veterans of America.
    Mr. Thomas, if you would, I would recognize you for 5 
minutes to give your PVA's testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF ROBERT THOMAS

    Mr. Thomas. Thank you. Chairman Bost, Ranking Member 
Takano, and members of the committee, I appreciate the 
opportunity to testify on behalf of the tens of thousands of 
veterans with spinal cord injuries and disorders who rely on 
the benefits and healthcare available through the Department of 
Veteran Affairs.
    For nearly 35 years, I have navigated the VA health care 
and benefits system following the spinal cord injury I 
sustained while on active duty. The care and benefits available 
through the VA not only saved my life, but have given me the 
ability to have a family, work, and serve my fellow veterans, 
most recently, as you stated, as Paralyzed Veterans of America, 
national president and chairman of the board.
    I received my medical care through VA's direct care system. 
However, about 10 years ago, I was in a motor vehicle accident. 
I was taken to the nearest community hospital for immediate 
care. I recall the emergency room doctor asking me if I was in 
pain from the accident. I told the doctor that I was paralyzed 
and unable to feel such pain. Without further examination, I 
was given pain medication and just released. I knew that I 
needed to get to the VA, where I later received the proper 
examination. I know firsthand why people with spinal cord 
injuries who did not serve tell me that they wish they could 
access the care and support available through the VA.
    Without the VA's SCI/D system of care, I do not know where 
I would have been, and many of the men and women sitting here 
behind me would say exactly the same thing if they were 
speaking today. That is why we become so concerned when the 
SCI/D centers have to close beds because they do not have 
enough nurses to properly staff them.
    Veterans Health Administration Directive 1176 provides the 
staffing guidelines to allow healthcare professionals to 
properly care for veterans with SCID. Depending on the function 
level of an acute SCI patient, a nurse may spend an hour or 
more each time with the veteran's room. That is why it is 
important for SCI/D centers to have higher staffing levels than 
other wards. We need every level of VHA, including Central 
Office, Veterans Integrated Service Networks (VISN), and the 
individual medical facilities, to take seriously the 
requirements of VHA's Directive 1176. We need the VA to 
properly deploy its resources and request the funding needed to 
provide the level of care outlined in the directive. If the VA 
system of care is not properly funded to ensure the staffing 
levels meet the needs of the veterans with SCI/D, then our 
government is defaulting on a promise made to care for us who 
become catastrophically injured or ill in our service to this 
great Nation.
    It is not just acute post injury or diagnosis that we 
depend on. It is also the lifelong care that allows us to 
remain independent.
    Caregivers are tremendously important for veterans with 
catastrophic disabilities. My wife, LaShon, is not only my 
spouse, she is also my caregiver. I mentioned Andrew, a veteran 
with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS), when I testified in 
March. It is only because of the tremendous advocacy of 
Andrew's wife, Lisa, that he is still receiving care at home. 
Recently, she took the exceptional steps of petitioning 
directly to the undersecretary of health, which compelled his 
local facility to recalculate the cost of his care in an 
attempt to delay his reaching the statutory cap. No family 
should be forced to take such aggressive measures.
    The Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act would fix this problem. We 
need Congress to pass the Senator Elizabeth Dole's 21st Century 
Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act, which 
includes this important legislation. I and my fellow paralyzed 
veterans believe that the backing of every major veterans 
organization should be enough to get H.R. 8371 through Congress 
without further delay. Andrew cannot wait anymore. Lisa cannot 
wait anymore. We cannot wait anymore for Congress to do the 
right thing and pass this bill.
    I am grateful for the support I received through the VA, 
but my fellow veterans and I are concerned about the future of 
the VA SCI/D system of care. Without a robust system, we are in 
danger of living diminished, shortened lives. This is not what 
we fought for and it is not what we will settle for. Thank you 
for the opportunity to provide you with my perspective on VA's 
SCI/D system of care and I will be happy to answer any 
questions.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Robert Thomas Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Thank you Mr. Thomas.
    Mr. Blake. Mr. Blake, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

                    STATEMENT OF CARL BLAKE

    Mr. Blake. Thank you Mr. Chairman. You know, I have been 
here a long time and you mentioned earlier how long you have 
been here and do not recall a hearing on SCI/D. I have been 
here a lot longer than you have and I cannot recall an 
oversight hearing on this. I certainly thank the committee for 
its willingness to address this issue today.
    I sat there last night and I was trying to think what could 
I tell you that would get your attention. That we get people to 
listen and understand what Robert was just saying. I have never 
told my story ever. It is just a personal thing I do not do 
because it is personal, but I am going to share a little bit of 
my story.
    I am a PVA member. I have a combat-related spinal cord 
injury. I was told by the Army once, if I do not die, I will 
never walk again. I was told by a private medical facility 
there is no chance this person will ever walk again. I rolled 
into the VA SCI center in Richmond, Virginia, on a gurney and I 
walked out of there after 12 months of rehab. VA did that. 
While the VA gets a bad rap and gets beat up, it is a valuable 
system to our members.
    I do want to say I appreciate Dr. Scavella's testimony. 
Clearly, she spent a lifetime committed to veterans and the VA, 
and she is to be commended for that. I think it is important 
that we step back now and realize what is really going on in 
the SCI system of care.
    The fact is, the SCI system is at a breaking point. We 
survey all of the SCI centers on an annual basis. Every month 
we do bedding/staffing survey of the SCI system of care. This 
is what we know to be true. There are staffing shortages all 
over the system. It is not 9 percent, it is more like 30 
percent. There is a severe lack of resources dedicated to this 
system of care.
    The VA has a larger financial problem that, for whatever 
reason, no one is willing to admit and accept. The VA has been 
given a lot of money over the years. We recognize that fact, 
especially in recent years. What the hell they have done with 
it, we do not know. Where it has been directed is not toward 
the SCI system of care.
    We met with the SCI leadership from all over the country a 
couple of months ago, and here is what they told us: they 
cannot hire anyone, not just because there are not providers 
available. There are no incentives to bring people on. There 
are people who are interested in working in the system, and 
those are the most dedicated people. The system is not set up 
to bring those people on board in an efficient manner, and most 
of the time they are lost. The HR process is broken. It does 
not serve the needs of the system to bring people in in an 
expeditious manner.
    We have heard a lot about net zero growth in VA because of 
the fiscal challenges it has. It is not net zero, it is net 
negative. This is what is happening in the SCI system of care. 
When a position comes open, it is not only not being filled, in 
some cases it is being abolished, taken off the books. The VA's 
handbook 1176 expressly says, this is what the staffing 
methodology and model should be for VA, and these are the 
policies and processes that should be followed for providing 
direct care. Those leaders across the system told us that they 
have been told at the local level and even up to the VISN level 
we do not care what 1176 says. We are not beholden to that. It 
is not the law. That is bulls--.
    If you are going to craft a policy and a process to deliver 
care, then you should follow it. If you are unwilling to do so, 
admit why. As it is, our members are struggling to get the care 
that they need, and the system is at a breaking point. We do 
not want to ask Congress for more money. We recognize the 
challenges that is faced across the entire spectrum. Resources 
are going to have to be put in the system somehow to ensure 
that they are able to staff, provide the equipment, and build 
the capacity that they need.
    There are centers that are actively being degraded today. 
They are actively closing beds today. The system is shrinking. 
The population that needs this service is not. Yes, it is 
getting older. That does not mean the population is shrinking. 
Some real effort needs to be put into rejuvenating this system 
or it is going to collapse on itself and everyone in this room 
and everyone listening and all of our members are going to 
suffer because of it.
    There were questions about women's healthcare. They will be 
irrelevant if we do not fix this system before it is too late. 
That is close to where we are now. It is important that we all 
understand the VA has a vital role to our members, to all 
veterans. If veterans want to go out into the community, PVA 
does not have an express opposition to veterans getting care in 
the community. It is a necessary tool for the VA.
    That option is not available to our members. It is only the 
SCI system of care that makes their care possible and we have 
to invest in it. If we do not, there are much worse horror 
stories that could come from it. We are here pleading with you 
to actually put the emphasis behind it. All the memos in the 
world, all the policy directives in the world do not do any 
good if it is not being enforced. It is all well and good to 
say we support the system of care. Well, show it to us, because 
we do not feel like that is what is happening today. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Carl Blake Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Blake.
    I now recognize Ms. Sonya Sotak, the chief government 
affairs officer of I AM ALS, for 5 minutes to deliver your 
testimony.

                    STATEMENT OF SONYA SOTAK

    Ms. Sotak. Good afternoon. Chairman Bost, Ranking Member 
Takano, and members of the committee, it is my honor to be 
invited to testify today on behalf of I AM ALS and the ALS 
community, including the approximately 6,000 veterans living 
with ALS in the United States.
    ALS, commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease, is a 100 
percent fatal neurodegenerative condition. Upon diagnosis, 
individuals are told, get your affairs in order, go home and 
prepare to die, with the current survival rate being 2 to 5 
years. ALS strips away a person's independence, gradually 
robbing them of the ability to walk, speak, and eventually the 
inability to breathe. Tragically, every veteran diagnosed with 
ALS will succumb to this disease. Regardless of how hard they 
fight or how hard their valor is, every veteran will lose their 
battle against ALS.
    As this committee is aware, ALS in veterans has been 
determined to be 100 percent service-connected, with veterans 
being twice as likely as civilians to develop the disease, and 
post 9-11 Air Force veterans showing a tenfold increase in 
incidents. It is estimated that 5,000 to 6,000 of the 30,000 
individuals living with ALS in the United States are veterans, 
roughly 16 percent of cases. However, these figures are 
approximate due to challenges in accurately diagnosing ALS.
    After being diagnosed, many of our veterans and their 
families must take significant time to advocate for themselves 
while managing the disease. Frequently, it is to explain to the 
VA what their VA benefits are as a veteran with ALS. To help 
veterans navigate this complex system, I AM ALS's veterans team 
developed a comprehensive toolkit that outlines the available 
the available benefits for veterans, including how to access 
them. While our community of veterans with ALS are incredibly 
grateful for the VA benefits available to them, this toolkit 
underscores the complex nature of the benefit structure, which 
often leads to veterans and their families diverting valuable 
time and energy to navigate and navigating instead of being 
able to focus on their health.
    Lack of knowledge of the VA system can result in 
frustration and delays in service. Because ALS can progress 
rapidly, delays need to be avoided at all costs. Congress 
recognized this when you all work together in a bipartisan 
manner and pass the ALS waiver, eliminating the Social Security 
Disability Insurance (SSDI) waiting period in 2020. Our 
veterans with ALS and their families deserve the same 
recognition when accessing benefits, including home health 
care. While the VA spinal cord injuries and disorder centers 
are equipped to address the needs of veterans with static 
spinal cord injuries, they often struggle to meet the complex 
requirements of ALS care. ALS demands a multidisciplinary 
approach and specialized equipment that many SCI/D centers 
lack. Geographical barriers of the centers compound the 
challenges faced by veterans with ALS, especially those not 
living in certain urban areas.
    Based on the needs of our ALS veteran community, I AM ALS 
is asking for an increase in this expenditure cap for 
noninstitutional care from 65 percent to 100 percent of the 
cost of the closest VA community living center through the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act, which is included in the Senator 
Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits 
Improvement Act. By raising the cap to 100 percent, veterans 
with ALS and their caregivers will be able to access healthcare 
in the comfort of their homes. This will enhance the quality of 
life for veterans with ALS and alleviate the burden on their 
families and caregivers.
    I AM ALS and our veteran community also appreciate that the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act acknowledges the crucial role of 
caregivers, often family, in managing the daily needs of 
veterans with ALS. The act offers resources, training, and 
financial assistance to caregivers, easing their emotional and 
financial burdens and enabling them to provide improved care 
and support to our veterans.
    I am going to take a moment to share with you the impact of 
this legislation could have had on our Navy veteran Garrett. 
Garrett served as part of the Seabees, a Navy construction 
battalion, with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Garrett's battle 
with ALS epitomizes the challenges many veterans face, 
especially when trying to remain in their homes as the disease 
progresses. When Garrett was first diagnosed, he and his wife 
attempted to manage his care at home with most of his care 
falling on his spouse to avoid reaching the 65 percent cap. 
However, despite their efforts to navigate the system, Garrett 
was trapped in a cycle of bureaucratic red tape. Garrett 
eventually required more assistance, surpassed the home cap, 
and was put in an institution. Garrett elected to remove his 
trach, ending his life early rather than being isolated in an 
institution. Garrett simply wanted to be at home. At the end of 
his life, Garrett felt hopeless and out of options. His 
heartbreaking decision to end his life because of the complex 
system not providing the best support for his final battle 
shows the urgency of passing this legislation, and Garrett is 
not an outlier. Unfortunately, I can tell you about other 
veterans who have had the same circumstance. Through the 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act, you can improve the quality of 
life for veterans living with ALS and their caregivers as it 
provides them with flexibility and how they receive care.
    I will end, I know I hit my time. I do not want to go over.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Sonya Sotak Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Thank you, Ms. Sotak.
    Now we recognize Dr. Jenny Kiratli, representing the 
American Federation of Government Employees. Dr. Kiratli is 
also the director of spinal cord injury clinical research for 
the VA Palo Alto healthcare system.
    Doctor, you are recognized for 5 minutes to deliver your 
testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF JENNY KIRATLI

    Dr. Kiratli. Chairman Bost and Ranking Member Takano and 
members of the House Committee of Veterans' Affairs, thank you 
for inviting the American Federation of Government Employees, 
AFGE, to participate in today's committee hearing on meeting 
the needs of spinal cord injury and disorders veteran 
community.
    You have just introduced me, so I will skip that. Well, 
actually, I am a member of the AFGE since 2009. AFGE's National 
Veterans Affairs Council represents more than 302,000 AFGE VA 
employees. My role at VA as a research health scientist in the 
SCI/D center at VA Palo Alto since 1991 with more than 30 years 
of experience conducting research on clinical issues affecting 
people with spinal cord injury. In addition, I am on the 
faculty of the SCI Medicine Clinical Fellowship program and a 
member of our SCI/D Center Leadership Council.
    As you have been hearing about re-ed rate, the VA Palo Alto 
SCI/D center is one of the 25 VA SCI/D centers that offer 
lifelong, comprehensive, integrated, coordinated care, 
including primary care, rehab, emergency care, acute medical 
and surgical care, mental health care, and home care aimed at 
supporting the veteran as a whole person with services that 
reintegrate veterans in the community. Care is also delivered 
via telehealth, which VA Palo Alto pioneered in 2000 and has 
expanded tremendously to enhance access to VA services 
remotely. SCI/D providers include physicians, nurses, 
psychologists, social workers, physical therapists, 
occupational therapists, recreation therapists who coordinate 
care with many disciplines such as pharmacy, radiology, 
urology, orthopedics, plastic surgery, and many other clinical 
services. The expertise of the interdisciplinary care team and 
breadth of services available makes the VA SCI/D network based 
on a hub and spokes model, the most comprehensive healthcare 
system for people living with SCI/D in the U.S.
    Primary care physicians need special training to serve the 
specific needs of this patient population, as they must be able 
to diagnose and treat an array of problems that may present 
differently, such as bone fractures and infections. They also 
must be trained to recommend appropriate preventive care at 
screenings and manage comorbidities such as metabolic and 
muscular disorders in collaboration with other specialists. 
Most physicians in the VA SCI/D centers pursue an additional 
year of specialty training through SCI medicine fellowship 
programs, and VA plays an important role in these training 
programs in collaboration with academic affiliates. However, 
more needs to be done to encourage young clinicians to enter 
the field of SCI medicine. Of the approximately 31, 32 
positions in SCI clinical fellowships, usually fewer than 20 
positions are filled in any given year.
    Another unique aspect of the VA system is the large and 
very active research enterprise which I am part of. Clinical 
research conducted at the VA Palo Alto SCI/D center and other 
VA centers can drive improvements in care delivery that also 
may benefit nonveterans living with spinal cord injury and 
disorders and contribute to best practices. One of my current 
projects is a collaboration with the Minneapolis VA to evaluate 
a novel wheelchair that provides mobility while staying. This 
adaptation will allow greater time in an upright position and 
thus reduce the risk for pressure injuries, improve blood flow 
and bladder and bowel function, reduce spasticity and pain, as 
well as enhance functional capabilities of the user.
    VA Palo Alto also was involved in the multisite VA research 
to explore the effect on quality of life with exoskeleton-
assisted ambulation, as well as a project a few years ago to 
implement and evaluate a model of vocational rehab to return 
individuals with SCI/D to employment. Other recent projects 
that I have been involved with include exploration of video 
gaming as a mode to elicit upper extremity muscle activation 
and a current study to improve evaluation of fracture risk by 
determining a reliable method to measure bone loss at the knee, 
a common fracture site.
    Through its research in clinical care initiatives, VA is at 
the forefront of improving clinical outcomes and quality of 
life for veterans and all people living with spinal cord 
injuries and disorders. However, more can be done to strengthen 
the VA SCI/D system. There is a great need, as we have been 
hearing, for increased staffing for SCI/D services. Staffing 
requirements for SCI/D centers should reflect the high acuity 
and complexity of care needed, which often require specialized 
certification and advanced training. The high acuity of care 
creates burnout, and younger clinical staff often leave just as 
they have gained sufficient skills to perform all their duties. 
Additional retention incentives are needed to address vacancies 
and turnover, with specialty pay as a high priority.
    In summary, the VA's SCI/D model provides uniquely 
comprehensive and integrated services delivered by highly 
knowledgeable teams of specialists that do not exist in the 
private sector. While the mission act increased access to non-
VA facilities, use of VA and none non-VA care has the potential 
to increase unintended duplication of services, costs, and 
fragmentation of care. The risk of inadequate care is a great 
concern for veterans with SCI/D because of the need for 
specialized expertise.
    In addition, non-VA providers lack access to VA resources 
such as medical equipment and a wide array of adaptive products 
often created for each individual for his or her specific 
needs. Care should be taken to ensure that increasing 
privatization of VA services does not upend the VA's 
specialized SCI care model that provides an array of integrated 
services and supports research used to develop best practices 
for all people living with spinal cord injuries and disorders. 
Thank you very much for this opportunity to talk about it.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Jenny Kiratli Appears In The 
Appendix]

    The Chairman. Doctor, thank you very much for your 
testimony.
    We will now go to questioning and I recognize myself for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Blake, in PVA's opinion, what is it--why is it 
necessary for Congress to pass H.R. 8371, the Senator Elizabeth 
Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement 
Act, to continue improving services for your membership?
    Mr. Blake. Thank you Mr. Chairman, for the question. A lot 
of our members rely on home care services, home-based services. 
The Veteran-Directed Care program is a very popular program for 
our members where it is available. The Elizabeth Dole Act would 
make those opportunities much more available. It would 
eliminate the 65 percent cap. It would allow our members to be 
at home where they want to be and receive the care that they 
need and not end up in simply a facility and would just improve 
their independence and opportunity.
    I think if the bill does not get passed, then our members 
will continue to struggle along or we are going to end up in a 
situation like the lady from I AM ALS mentioned. Those are 
totally unacceptable circumstances. That should never happen 
simply because of some arbitrary cap or some limitation on home 
care services that are available.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Ms. Sotak, can you explain why VA 
must ensure that accessibility and safe contracted exam 
facilities are available right away for veterans with ALS?
    Ms. Sotak. Sure. Thank you for the question. ALS progresses 
quickly, not for everybody, but for many. Some veterans have 
limited mobility at the time of their diagnosis. For that, we 
believe that contracted exam facilities must be accessible. I 
think we heard earlier testimony saying that is sometimes very 
often a challenge. We need to make sure that they get in 
quickly before their disease progresses more and we are able to 
hopefully mitigate the rapid progression of that disease.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Blake, VA told the committee 
staff that they were operating at a 9 percent vacancy rate for 
the clinic staff. I think in your testimony you said that you 
probably do not believe that. What do you believe it actually 
is?
    Mr. Blake. Well, let me correct that. I do not believe that 
that is not true. We simply think it is not true. We survey the 
system of care every month for its bed and staffing. According 
to our own medical services records and our team that surveys 
that system, we believe that vacancy rate is closer to 30 
percent, not 9 percent.
    The Chairman. Do you think that the VA has the staff needed 
to safely care for the groups, for this group of veterans?
    Mr. Blake. Well, I could just simply say no. That would be 
too easy. The answer is no.
    The Chairman. Yes.
    Mr. Blake. Clearly it is not, because the system is 
actually being drawn down, it is not being expanded at all.
    The Chairman. Mr. Thomas, can you tell me why it is 
important to have competent, properly trained clinical staff 
when you are being treated as SCI/D veterans?
    Mr. Thomas. Thank you for that question, Mr. Chairman. I 
can simply say that, you know, our lives, my life, the life of 
our members are in their hand. We really need them to be able 
to diagnose us when we come in because the only thing that we 
know something is going on. We cannot feel, we cannot tell 
exactly what it is. We need to rely on these doctors and nurses 
to tell us what is going on and not just simply provide us with 
some medication to say, I will see you next time. Check back 
with me in a week.
    The Chairman. I think you said in your opening statement 
that, you know, we know VA wants to provide this. We have just 
got to make sure that we do the oversight to make sure that it 
is doing it at the top level that you all deserve. We want to 
continue to work to do that.
    With that, I am going to turn it over to Mr. Takano for his 
questions. Recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to start with 
Dr. Kiratli. Dr. Kiratli, can you expand on the training and 
continuing professional education that clinicians have to 
undergo to be able to provide appropriate care to SCI/D 
veterans? We just have been talking about the importance of 
highly trained people to take care of this SCI/D population. 
Can you expand on the training that is necessary?
    Dr. Kiratli. Thank you for that question. Yes, I am glad 
to. We have one of the clinical fellowship training programs at 
our facility in Palo Alto, and it is a year-long intensive 
program for physicians who want to have a subspecialty in 
spinal cord injury medicine. They become board-certified. It 
includes exposure to inpatient, outpatient, all sorts of 
additional specialty trainings that can be provided. We partner 
with--our program at Palo Alto is actually under Stanford 
University, and we partner with the community SCI/D center 
nearby. Most of the programs, many of the programs involve VA, 
but not all. When residents choose programs, often they value 
being able to be at a VA to gain that training, the training 
opportunities to work with veterans in the system for the high 
level of specialty training that they can get.
    Mr. Takano. Well, thank you. Does VA cover all the costs of 
the ongoing training?
    Dr. Kiratli. No, not that I know of.
    Mr. Takano. They do not. They do not cover the ongoing 
costs of continuing education they need to do?
    Dr. Kiratli. No, the various professionals have 
requirements for ongoing training. For instance, physicians 
have to recertify board training. We have a variety of other 
specialty certifications, such as wound training, high level 
seating training. I think there is some funds available, but 
not--it certainly does not cover all of it. There is a limited 
amount available for conference attendance.
    Mr. Takano. It is fair to say that it takes thoughtful 
investment in VA's workforce in order to provide the high level 
of care that SCI/D veterans require and deserve. Would you say 
that is right?
    Dr. Kiratli. Absolutely. Well said.
    Mr. Takano. My colleague Julia Brownley has an important 
bill, the Department of Veterans Affairs Continuing 
Professional Education (VA CPE) Modernization Act, H.R. 543. We 
have been stymied in advancing this bill because of its cost, 
estimated by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) to be about 
$3.3 billion in combined discretionary and mandatory spending 
over 10 years. This is addressing the cost of training SCI/D 
employees. However, I think this would be a very worthwhile 
investment. This legislation would provide stipends of up to 
$2,000 per year for VA clinicians continuing professional 
education expenses. What would this mean for employees for VA's 
SCI/D system of care; It would mean a lot, would it not?
    Dr. Kiratli. That would be wonderful.
    Mr. Takano. Well, I would like to change to Mr. Thomas. Mr. 
Thomas, in your testimony, you highlighted how VA's SCI/D 
system of care is uniquely positioned to meet VA's PVA members, 
your members. Why do you think it is so important to ensure 
that VA is able to continue to meet the needs of SCI/D 
veterans?
    Mr. Thomas. Thank you for that question. I believe that 
being able to meet the needs of all of my members, myself to be 
included, is that it is very important because, you know, 
outside in the community, as I stated in my oral statement, 
that, you know, the doctors do not know. They are unsure of 
what goes on. The specialized training that is provided for VA 
clinicians and everything, it is important to us to make sure, 
again, that we can be diagnosed correctly. They know what is 
going on.
    A prime example is if an individual comes up with autonomic 
dysreflexia and the individual doctor does not know how to 
treat that, it can become very severe to our members and to 
myself as well. Having those specialized care, having a 
specialized care system available to us means a lot.
    Mr. Takano. Our current investments in VA infrastructure 
and direct care--direct care, not Community Care--direct care 
for veterans with SCI/D, are they sufficient?
    Mr. Thomas. I would turn that over to our Chief Executive 
Officer (CEO) Blake to answer that question.
    Mr. Blake. I will answer it like the other question. No.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you. Well, I agree with both of you. 
Congress needs to make more considered effort to balance the 
amount of funding going out of VA to private sector providers 
rather than into VA in the form of investments in the direct 
care workforce and improvements in medical care facilities. 
Would you agree with what I just said?
    Mr. Blake. Yes.
    Mr. Thomas. Yes.
    Mr. Takano. Well, I am glad we agree on that premise. That 
is why we must continue to prioritize efforts that invest in 
VA. I believe investments in VA are investments in veterans, 
especially veterans who truly depend on the specialized care 
that VA can offer. We need to build on that offering and expand 
it, as well as other benefits.
    In your testimony, you mentioned the importance of enacting 
legislation like the Autonomy for All Disabled Veterans Act, 
which would increase grants for veterans to make structural 
improvements to their homes and the Rural Veterans 
Transportation to Care Act, which would provide innovative 
transportation options for veterans traveling to medical 
appointments. I agree that these should be priorities for 
Congress and that we should ensure that we advance these kind 
of bills.
    Now, I would like to go back for a moment to Dr. Kiratli. 
What kind of feedback do you hear from physician fellows and 
other providers about training they have received at VA? What 
do they like about practicing at VA versus in the private 
sector?
    Dr. Kiratli. Thank you for that question. It is an 
excellent question. The constant feedback we get is how the 
clinicians are able to practice medicine as they have been 
taught. They have access to the specialty services, they have 
access to resources, and they do not have to curtail or 
prioritize care based on what might be available to support it. 
It really allows them to practice to the fullest extent and the 
best interests in the health and well-being of the patient.
    Mr. Takano. Well, thank you. I yield back. I am sorry, I 
went over my time.
    The Chairman. Not a problem. General Bergman, you are 
recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Bergman. Thank you, Chairman Bost, for holding this 
hearing and giving us the opportunity to focus on the needs of 
our paralyzed veterans. As has been made clear through the 
testimony today, there are a wide range of reforms and 
improvements needed at VA to ensure the best possible care for 
these veterans. I appreciate being able to hear our witnesses' 
support for bills like the Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act.
    My focus today will be on VA's annual health assessments 
for spinal cord injured and disabled, or SCI/D, veterans, as 
well as access to assistive devices to promote mobility and 
independence. As a note, when you were talking, Doctor, you 
talked about inactive versus active care, and I would suggest 
to you that things like an assistive wheelchair to stand and 
all that is outstanding, it enables that patient. I also 
believe that on the active side, things like the exoskeleton 
probably promotes more active care. I will leave it to the 
scientists to decide that.
    Mr. Thomas, great to see you again, as always. Last time I 
think we talked was over on the Senate side. Could you please 
describe the benefit of these annual preventative health 
assessments for SCI/D veterans?
    Mr. Thomas. The benefit to having an annual exam would be 
that you could stay ahead of any issue that may be coming up, 
and the doctors are aware of the smallest thing that the 
individual has not came to that realization that is going on 
and happening with them. For me, I did not know that I was 
coming down with type 2 diabetes without going to this annual 
exam. Having doing that, it gets me to be on top of that and 
find a way to try and not be too diabetic, if I could say that, 
if that is a real way. It prevents everything. To me, medicine 
is preventive care anyway.
    Mr. Bergman. Basically, what I am interpreting you to say 
that VA should, wherever possible, be doing more to ensure more 
paralyzed veterans nationwide are made aware of and then, 
therefore, are able to receive these assessments. I assume a 
simple yes would probably be----
    Mr. Thomas. You are absolutely correct, yes.
    Mr. Bergman. Roger that. Okay. Regarding assistive devices, 
do you feel there are improvements that can be made to ensure 
paralyzed veterans are able to be assessed for and provided 
with devices that they are clinically eligible to receive based 
upon the assessment of the individual veteran?
    Mr. Thomas. I would also say yes to that. If there is any 
new and innovative technology that comes out, I feel that they 
should always be on top of that so that they can increase our 
mobility access.
    Mr. Bergman. Perfect. You know, as veterans, we know what 
we have been subject to some interesting new technologies over 
the course of our careers, and let us keep it to the good ones 
and advance capabilities and a better life for others.
    While the VA has procedures in place on paper to provide 
annual assessments for SCI/D veterans and provide them with 
assistive devices, the reality for many paralyzed veterans has 
shown that there is more that needs to be done. I am grateful 
for PVA's support of my bill, H.R. 6373, the Veterans Spinal 
Trauma Access to New Devices, or Veterans STAND Act, which I 
introduced along with Chairman Bost, Health Subcommittee 
Ranking Member Brownley, and Congresswoman Debbie Dingle. This 
bill will codify the VA's obligation to offer annual 
examinations for SCI/D veterans, take steps to improve outreach 
for those who are eligible, and ensure paralyzed veterans are 
able to be assessed for and provided with assistive devices.
    As I said, there is still a lot of work to be done on 
behalf of our paralyzed veterans. I hope this committee will 
advance the Veterans STAND Act so we can make the progress 
necessary in those efforts.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Luttrell. [Presiding.] Thank you, General.
    Ranking Member you are recognized for closing remarks.
    Mr. Takano. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, Chairman Bost 
raised concerns at our budget hearing in April about 
significant year-to-year increases in VA's overall budget. I 
would love to work with the chairman to address this 
unsustainable trajectory, as it is pretty clear that community 
care is placing the biggest strain on VA's budget. The chairman 
and I seem to have fundamental philosophical differences about 
whether community care should be funded at the expense of other 
veterans policy priorities. H.R. 8371, the veterans package, 
would throw another $1 billion at community care in the short 
term and at least $3 billion if we extend temporary authorities 
beyond the sunset dates included in the bill. I am sorry, I 
just cannot in good conscience throw more good money after bad 
and further expand community care eligibility, especially not 
when VA is already proposing to transfer as much as $10 billion 
from direct care and VA facility infrastructure to community 
care in Fiscal Year 2025.
    PVA members are among the most medically vulnerable 
veterans VA serves, and they will suffer the most if Congress 
does not properly fund the VA direct care system by investing 
in VA's workforce and medical facility infrastructure. Now, it 
is up to the chairman to put the bill on the floor that can 
pass, and I have been very clear about my concerns. We are in 
agreement on about 95 percent of the provisions in H.R. 8371, 
including those taken from H.R. 542, the original Elizabeth 
Dole Home Care Act, which passed the House more than 6 months 
ago. However, if we want to act quickly, the Senate should pass 
Congresswoman Brownley's bill right now. Then we can actually 
spend time on the provisions that need more work and that have 
received very little progress, including getting updated 
stakeholder input and more information on the true cost of 
provisions that are going to have lasting impacts on VA's 
ability to do deliver care.
    Thank you Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.
    The Chairman. Thank you Mr. Takano. I would like to thank 
the witnesses for coming today. I would like to thank the 
veterans and the veterans' families that are in the audience 
for your service and everything that you provided for the great 
country that we live in. We would not be able to do our work in 
this committee without each and every one of you. I want to say 
again that many of the issues raised today will be addressed 
with the passage of H.R. 8371, the Dole Act.
    I ask unanimous consent that all members shall have 5 
legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks 
and include any extraneous material. Hearing no objections, so 
ordered. The hearing is now adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:39 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]
    
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                  Prepared Statement of Erica Scavella

    Good afternoon, Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, and Committee 
Members. Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today to 
discuss SCI/D, which present unique challenges and complexities 
requiring specialized care and support. At VA, we are dedicated to 
addressing the diverse needs of Veterans with SCI/D, ensuring access to 
rehabilitation services; specialty benefits; and services, and 
assistive technologies. Joining me today is Jeffrey London, Executive 
Director for the Medical Disability Examination Office, with the 
Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA).

Overview of Care

    VA's SCI/D System of Care is the largest and most comprehensive 
network in the U.S. dedicated to providing exceptional care for 
individuals with SCI/D, and it is the preferred choice for most 
Veterans. Its objective is to enhance the health, well-being, 
functionality, and quality of life for Veterans through a coordinated 
system of care. The system operates on a ``Hub-and-Spoke'' model, with 
25 regional SCI/D Centers (Hubs) offering comprehensive care, while 
primary care services are delivered at VA medical centers (VAMC) 
without SCI/D Centers (Spokes) by SCI/D Patient Aligned Care Teams 
(PACT).
    The SCI/D Centers cater to Veterans with SCI/D, as well as those 
with motor neuron diseases and multiple sclerosis with spinal cord 
involvement, offering acute/sustaining and long-term care beds. 
Interdisciplinary teams of highly trained SCI/D clinicians provide a 
full continuum of services through the SCI/D System of Care, including 
acute rehabilitation, medical and surgical treatment, primary and 
preventative care, prescribed durable medical equipment, prosthetics/
rehabilitative devices, respite care, and end-of-life care.
    Mental health services are provided or coordinated throughout the 
SCI/D System of Care as part of the overall integrated care team plan. 
Annual evaluations ensure ongoing assessments of Veterans' needs, 
including psychological, social, and vocational assessments. SCI/D-
trained psychologists and social workers are embedded into the care 
teams and serve as excellent resources and mental health providers for 
enrolled Veterans. When needed, these SCI/D-trained psychologists and 
social workers make additional mental health referrals, which are 
facilitated by the SCI/D Center or PACT. Peer counseling services and 
programs are also offered directly at the SCI/D Center, and through 
Veterans Service Organizations (VSO) and community-based programs. 
These help Veterans adjust to new impairments, understand the 
rehabilitation process, develop social skills, and transition to 
community living. Additionally, VHA offers comprehensive pain treatment 
options tailored to the unique needs of SCI/D Veterans, ensuring they 
receive the highest quality of care and support.

Mobility Interventions and Walking Aids

    The prescriptive use of mobility interventions and walking aids is 
individualized to the Veteran and often specific to the setting where 
the Veteran is seen. Evaluations typically include reviews of 
pathology, impairments, functional limitations, and risk factors. If 
deemed medically appropriate, the inclusion of mobility devices and 
technologies is matched based on the individual Veteran's functional 
goals, focusing on enhancing mobility, independence, and overall 
quality of life. These can include walking assistive devices, bracing 
supports, prostheses, orthotics, shoe modifications, functional 
electrical stimulation devices, powered exoskeletons, body-weight 
support treadmills, and virtual reality gait training.
    VA has implemented rigorous quality control measures and continues 
to advance prosthetic technology to deliver the highest standard of 
care to Veterans. This approach aims to empower Veterans to live their 
lives to the fullest, despite the challenges their SCI/D presents. In 
line with this goal, the Office of Advanced Manufacturing is developing 
technologies to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of prosthetic, 
orthopedic, and assistive devices. The resulting 3D-printed devices can 
increase a Veteran's quality of life, maintain the Veteran's 
independence, and reduce caregiver burnout.

Long-Term Care Options

    VHA recognizes that SCI/Ds are not limited to the geriatric 
population and that Veterans with SCI/D have complex and personalized 
needs. To address these needs, VA offers a comprehensive SCI/D System 
of Care that focuses on providing Veteran-centric care and support in 
the least restrictive environment possible. VA offers a range of non-
institutional and home-based primary care options to eligible Veterans 
based on their clinical needs, regardless of age, including medical 
foster homes, Veteran-directed care, bowel and bladder care, SCI/D home 
care, home health aide care, skilled home health care, community or VA-
provided adult day health care, respite care, and telehealth. 
Additionally, many Veterans in the SCI/D System of Care receive support 
through the Caregiver Support Program, which includes the General 
Caregiver Support Services and the Program of Comprehensive Assistance 
for Family Caregivers. For Veterans who require institutional care, 
available options include assisted living facilities, VA Community 
Living Centers, community nursing homes, State Veterans Homes, and VA 
SCI/D Long Term Care Centers.

Patient Safety Practices in Emergency Departments

    VA emergency departments are required to offer a medical screening 
evaluation to all Veterans, including those with SCI/D, to determine if 
an emergency medical condition exists. This is the general expectation 
of emergency medical care, and our policies require a posture of 
continuous readiness to initially stabilize almost any medical 
emergency. We can then call upon community providers if there are 
ongoing clinical needs beyond what would typically be expected in a VA 
emergency care setting, ensuring integrated care for the Veteran. While 
there are emergent disease processes more prevalent in the SCI/D 
population, including sepsis and autonomic dysreflexia, the role of the 
emergency department in providing emergency stabilizing treatment would 
apply equally.
    If deemed stable for discharge after an episode of emergent care, 
there would typically be coordination or follow up with the Veteran's 
primary or specialty care team to ensure appropriate care. Veterans 
receive specific information and education when discharged from the 
emergency department. This communication often involves caregivers--
with the Veteran's permission--to provide them an opportunity to ask 
questions and gain an understanding of the necessary next steps and 
safety precautions in the Veteran's care journey.
    All clinically active emergency department providers undergo 
ongoing professional practice evaluation to ensure an appropriate 
standard of care. This is in addition to existing quality controls 
within VHA to ensure high-quality care, including formal peer review 
and patient safety reporting. Additional specialized education is 
available through VA's Talent Management System and VA Library 
resources. Specialized training specific to SCI/D is not mandated for 
VHA emergency care clinical staff, as recognition and treatment of 
unstable emergency conditions would be a pre-existing standard across 
all clinical presentations.

Staff and Provider Training

    Clinician training for providers, nurses, and interdisciplinary 
teams involved in caring for individuals with SCI/D is facilitated 
through various channels.\1\ SCI/D Centers offer local and regional 
training, while the SCI/D National Program Office provides national-
level training opportunities. These programs include monthly expert 
learning series, continuing education credits, and VA-professional 
community networking sessions. Additionally, annual training is 
provided for SCI/D PACTs located throughout the country and PACTs are 
also invited to annual leadership summits with SCI/D Centers. The 
primary objective of these training channels is to stay updated on best 
practices and ensure we deliver optimal care.
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    \1\ Training requirements for the SCI/D System of Care are 
described in VHA Directive 1176(2 ), Spinal Cord Injuries and Disorders 
System of Care (Sept. 30, 2019; amended Feb 7, 2020).

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Addressing Transportation Concerns

    VA recognizes that transportation can pose a significant barrier 
for Veterans with SCI/D and, as a result, VA provides various 
assistance options. Eligible Veterans can receive beneficiary travel 
(BT) benefits for regular and special mode transportation, such as 
ambulances and wheelchair-accessible vehicles. In 2016, Congress 
expanded BT eligibility to include Veterans with SCI/D, among other 
populations, when their travel is connected to care provided through a 
VA special disabilities rehabilitation program if that care is provided 
on an inpatient basis or during a period in which VA provides the 
Veteran temporary lodging at a VA facility to make the care more 
accessible. Additionally, VA operates the Veterans Transportation 
Program, offering door-to-door transportation to appointments, 
including wheelchair service, regardless of BT eligibility. To support 
Veterans in rural areas, VA oversees the Highly Rural Transportation 
Grant Program in 13 states, where VA provides funding to State Veterans 
Service Agencies or VSOs coordinating transportation in highly rural 
counties.

Construction and Facilities Management

    VA is committed to ensuring accessibility across all aspects of its 
medical facilities, particularly in older facilities. This includes 
targeted upgrades, renovations, and integrating advanced assistive 
technologies to create modern, inclusive spaces that cater to the 
diverse needs of Veterans. VA has also pioneered the deployment of 
dedicated mobile units equipped with state-of-the-art equipment and 
resources, which serve as vital extensions of the health care network, 
reaching Veterans in remote or underserved areas and providing 
essential services and support. While not specific to SCI/D care, the 
Mobile Prosthetic and Orthotic Care program, supported by the VHA 
Innovators Network, aims to increase access to care for Veterans in 
rural areas. The program, already adopted in 10 VAMCs and set to roll 
out in 5 new areas in 2024, has improved the experience for Veterans 
who previously had to travel long distances for VA appointments.
    VA's commitment to enhancing accessibility extends beyond physical 
infrastructure to a holistic approach to care. The organization has 
taken proactive steps to address the unique needs of women Veterans, 
implementing specialized facilities that ensure privacy, comfort, and 
tailored care. These spaces serve as safe havens for women Veterans to 
access the services and support they need in a compassionate and 
supportive environment that prioritizes their well-being and dignity.
    As part of ongoing efforts to prioritize the health and safety of 
all Veterans, VA is also dedicated to reducing infection transmission 
rates within its facilities. Through rigorous infection control 
protocols, regular monitoring, and continuous staff training, VA is 
working tirelessly to create a safe and sterile environment that 
minimizes the risk of infections for patients, including those with 
SCI/D.

Overview of Benefits and Services

    Spinal cord injuries are a significant cause of disability, with 
profound and, in many cases, devastating consequences. VBA's foremost 
concern is ensuring that the most catastrophically disabled Veterans 
receive the benefits they deserve and have earned through their 
military service. This includes disability compensation, employment and 
independent living training, and support through VA's Veteran Readiness 
and Employment (VR&E) program, housing benefits, and the Specially 
Adapted Housing Program.

Contract Examinations

    As part of the disability compensation process, VBA oversees 
medical disability exam (MDE) contracts and related ancillary support 
and oversight contracts. VBA provides oversight of the exam contracts 
by setting metrics expectations for the Veteran experience, quality, 
timeliness, and production; overseeing ancillary contracts to verify 
examiners' credentials; and providing financial and data audits, to 
include invoice validation and beneficiary travel.
    VBA conducts frequent in-person site visits and administrative site 
visits (virtual desk reviews) to ensure facilities are safe, clean, and 
accessible. In-person site visits allow VBA to visually inspect vendor 
examination locations for compliance with VA standards. In addition to 
in-person site visits, VBA conducts administrative site reviews 
(virtual desk reviews) to supplement onsite facility inspections and 
increase overall oversight of all locations where Veterans obtain 
examinations. Post-site visit reports note best practices and items 
that require vendor actions. All action items are tracked until 
completed.
    In Fiscal Year (FY) 2023, VBA conducted 288 site visits and has 
already conducted 288 site visits in Fiscal Year 2024, with plans to 
complete at least another 112 site visits by the end of the fiscal 
year. To improve oversight, VBA also conducted a series of joint site 
visits with all MDE contract vendors to ensure consistency in site 
inspections and MDE vendor compliance.
    In May 2024, the Office of Inspector General (OIG) issued a report 
titled ``Better Oversight Needed of Accessibility, Safety, and 
Cleanliness at Contract Facilities Offering VA Disability Exams.'' 
Contract facilities are required to comply with the Americans with 
Disabilities Act and Occupational Safety and Health Administration 
standards to ensure every facility where exams are performed is 
accessible, safe, and clean. VBA takes Veterans' safety as its utmost 
priority and continues to work diligently to enhance Veteran safety and 
the overall Veteran experience. OIG made nine recommendations, which 
VBA is acting on, including updating contract requirements and standard 
operating procedures, and implementing improved customer feedback 
mechanisms. VBA is targeting to complete these actions by the end of 
Fiscal Year 2024.

Increasing Examination Access

    VBA continues to work with MDE vendors to ensure all Veterans, 
including those with SCI/D, have access to VA exams by using modalities 
such as acceptable clinical evidence (ACE) exams and telehealth 
appointments that limit travel for in-person exams. MDE vendors use 
traveling providers, claims clinics, and per-diem or rented locations 
to assist Veteran populations that require additional support. Vendors 
have mobile units deployed throughout the country and are equipped to 
complete most exam types, as well as diagnostic testing. The units are 
accessible, with wheelchair lifts and ramps, and are fully self-
contained with power supply and internet connectivity. Vendors continue 
to expand their mobile unit fleets and collectively have 28 operational 
individual units. For Veterans with SCI/D who are homebound or have 
transportation barriers, traveling providers, mobile units, and non-in-
person examinations allow greater access. They reduce wait times 
without degrading the quality of the exam. In Fiscal Year 2024, through 
April 2024, vendors have completed over 1.9 million appointments 
consisting of over 200,000 (11.9 percent) ACE exams and over 160,000 
(8.2 percent) telehealth appointments.
    In addition to increasing exam modality options, during the 
examination scheduling process, MDE vendors are required to include 
specific language in appointment notification letters regarding 
accessibility needs. VBA is also partnering with VA's Veterans 
Experience Office (VEO) to improve the scheduling process and increase 
Veterans' understanding of the examination process to build clarity, 
predictability, and flexibility to meet Veteran needs.

Customer Satisfaction and Feedback

    In April 2024, VBA implemented improvements to the Customer 
Satisfaction survey process. A new customer service contract vendor 
mails survey cards to Veterans to improve process integrity. Before 
April 2024, MDE vendors were responsible for releasing survey cards 
directly to Veterans. VBA also enhanced the actual customer 
satisfaction survey by incorporating a VA trust question, allowing VA 
to gain better insights into Veterans' confidence in the contract 
examination process, like other Veteran Experience surveys across the 
VA enterprise. VA also incorporated a quick-response code onto the 
survey, reducing the Veterans' burden of responding by allowing them 
immediate access to their survey by using a smartphone or computer.
    VBA takes feedback from Veterans and stakeholders seriously. As an 
example, based on a suggestion from Paralyzed Veterans of America, VBA 
made interim updates and clarified existing guidance regarding the 
Remaining Effective Function of the Extremities sections on the 
Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS), Multiple Sclerosis, Central 
Nervous System and Neuromuscular Diseases, and Peripheral Nerves 
Conditions Disability Benefits Questionnaires (DBQ). Additionally, in 
May 2024, VBA attended an ALS workshop in Seattle, Washington, which 
VHA hosted. VEO led this workshop and received a list of 29 suggested 
revisions to the ALS DBQ. VBA is evaluating these requests through its 
joint VBA-VHA DBQ Change Control Group.

VR&E

    The mission of VA's VR&E program is to assist qualified Service 
members and Veterans with service-connected disabilities prepare for, 
obtain, and maintain suitable employment or maintain a life of 
independence. VR&E achieves this mission by providing comprehensive 
vocational counseling services to transitioning Service members and 
Veterans to ensure goals are suitable and attained.
    During Fiscal Year 2023, VA provided VR&E services to 131,179 
Veterans and Service members, and 17,135 Veterans successfully 
completed their VR&E program. During Fiscal Year 2023, VBA paid over 
$1.6 billion in VR&E benefits. As of May 1, 2024, VR&E has 151,769 
Veteran participants, with 90,380 enrolled in Long-Term Services, which 
helps program participants obtain the education and training they need 
to find work in a different field that better suits their current 
abilities and interests.
    VR&E assists Veterans with SCI/D, and any other Veteran who meets 
the eligibility and entitlement criteria. A Vocational Rehabilitation 
Counselor (VRC) works with the individual to develop a plan of action 
that includes structured, individualized services ranging from 
education or necessary training to find work in a suitable field to 
services that assist with living as independently as possible if 
returning to work is not an option at the time the plan is developed.

VR&E Independent Living Services

    The VRC conducts an assessment to determine if achieving a 
vocational goal is currently reasonably feasible. To qualify for 
independent living (IL) services, the following requirements must be 
met:

      Service-connected disability of 20 percent or more,

      Serious employment handicap resulting in substantial part 
from the service-connected disability(ies),

      Inability to achieve a vocational goal,

      Limitations in activities of daily life impacting the 
individual's level of independence, and

      Reasonable likelihood that the gains in independence will 
continue after completing the program of IL services.

    The VRC works with the individual to conduct a preliminary IL 
assessment to determine if there are any impairments in activities of 
daily living. Areas such as housing, emotional, spiritual, leisure, and 
avocational needs are discussed to ensure all aspects of the 
individual's needs are considered.
    If the preliminary IL assessment confirms impairments in activities 
of daily living, the VRC must coordinate a comprehensive evaluation. A 
comprehensive in-home evaluation delves deeper into the preliminary 
assessment findings and any other areas of need, particularly potential 
barriers to living independently.
    The VRC works with the Veteran to develop an individualized 
independent living plan, enabling the individual to live independently 
and participate in family and community life to the maximum extent 
possible. IL services may increase the Veteran's potential to return to 
work by providing services designed to lessen or accommodate the 
effects of the disabilities. Veterans may receive:

      Assistive technology/modifications,

      Referrals for IL skills training,

      Referrals to community-based support services,

      Case management services,

      Coordination assistance with VA and non-VA service 
providers, and

      Support of an avocational activity.

VA Specially Adapted Housing (SAH) Program

    This year marks the 76th anniversary of the VA SAH grant program, 
which provides essential financial support for home adaptations, and 
addresses the unique accessibility needs of eligible Service members 
and Veterans with specific severe, service-connected disabilities, 
including SCI/D. The SAH program assists Service members and Veterans 
in constructing an adapted home, purchasing a home with adapted 
features, or adapting their own home. These projects, funded through 
this critical benefit, make Veterans' homes more accessible by removing 
barriers for those with qualifying disabilities. Since the program's 
inception in 1948, VA has administered over 52,000 SAH grants to 
eligible Service members and Veterans, totaling over $2.1 billion. For 
Fiscal Year 2024, through May 2024, VA has approved 1,507 SAH grants 
totaling $94.3 million.
    With the enactment of P.L. 115-177 in June 2018, the funding and 
construction activities for home adaptations made necessary by VR&E 
rehabilitation program transitioned to VA's Loan Guaranty Service (LGY) 
SAH program. The VR&E and LGY SAH programs have worked together to 
develop the qualifying factors for the grant process, including the use 
of licensed contractors, permits, technical drawings, and compliance 
inspections. Generally, VA may provide home adaptations up to $107,357 
as part of an approved VR&E rehabilitation program for individuals who 
are unable to work due to service-connected disabilities or who require 
home adaptations to achieve a vocational goal. The amount can change, 
based on inflationary adjustments.
    Other types of grants administered under the SAH program include 
the section 2101(a) grant (sometimes referred to as Specially Adapted 
Housing) and the section 2101(b) grant (sometimes called Special Home 
Adaptation). Also, the Temporary Residence Adaptation allows eligible 
individuals to adapt a family member's home where the Veteran or 
Service member is temporarily residing. The physical criteria for 
eligibility are defined by statute and, depending on the type of grant, 
include loss of use of extremities or blindness. Based on the type and 
level of a Veteran's service-connected disability, Veterans may be 
eligible for up to $117,014 in assistance under a section 2101(a) grant 
or $23,444 under a section 2101(b) grant. These amounts represent the 
maximum grant amounts in Fiscal Year 2024, which change annually based 
on an industry cost-of-construction index.

Conclusion

    Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, this concludes my testimony. 
Thank you once again for the opportunity to update you on VA's holistic 
approach, encompassing innovative technologies, specialized care, and 
unwavering support, to ensure Veterans with SCI/D receive the highest 
quality of care and services possible. Our commitment to ensuring that 
all Veterans receive the care, support, and respect they deserve 
remains unwavering. My colleagues and I are prepared to answer any 
questions.

                                 

                   Prepared Statement of Steve Bracci

    Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, and members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify on the independent oversight 
conducted by the Office of Inspector General (OIG). The OIG is 
committed to conducting work that results in clear findings and 
practical recommendations to help the Veterans Benefits Administration 
(VBA) promptly and accurately provide veterans, their families, 
survivors, and caregivers with the benefits and services they have 
earned.
    As of March 31, 2024, more than 5.8 million veterans were receiving 
disability compensation benefits.\1\ Given the significant hardships 
veterans may face when the disability compensation benefit program does 
not work as intended, the OIG remains vigilant in its oversight of 
various aspects of the program. This written statement focuses on 
improvements that VBA can make in its oversight of the vendors 
providing medical exams for veterans' disability benefits claims.
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    \1\ VA, ``VA Benefits & Health Care Utilization,'' https://
www.va.gov/vetdata/docs/pocketcards/pocketcard.pdf, accessed June 3, 
2024.
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    When a veteran files a claim, VBA staff may request medical exams 
to assess the disability before deciding and rating the claim. These 
exams, most of which are provided by contracted medical professionals, 
represent a multibillion-dollar investment of taxpayer dollars by VBA 
since 2017. Exams are typically conducted at the medical examiner's 
place of business, and those facilities must be accessible, safe, and 
clean according to contract requirements.\2\ The contracts also mandate 
that the vendors inspect all facilities where exams are conducted to 
ensure compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and 
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) standards.\3\
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    \2\ Medical Disability Examination Contracts, Section 5.1 Place of 
Performance.
    \3\ Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, 42 U.S.C. Sec.  12101 
et seq.; Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, 29 U.S.C. Sec.  
651 et seq.; Medical Exam Contract, Section 8.5 Deliverable Tasks Nov 
28, 2018.
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    Starting in 2022, the OIG assessed concerns raised by veterans 
through customer satisfaction surveys that VA requires be provided to 
veterans after a disability exam. The OIG review focused on veterans' 
feedback regarding the accessibility, safety, and cleanliness of the 
contract exam facilities. The team inspected 135 facilities for 
compliance with contractual and legal requirements and reviewed key 
aspects of VBA's oversight of exam vendors. During the review, the OIG 
team identified one or more ADA and OSHA deficiencies at 114 (about 84 
percent) of the exam facilities. This testimony highlights the finding 
and recommendations detailed in the resulting May 2024 report.\4\ The 
report focused on three issues related to (1) the lack of oversight 
over the contract exam facilities, (2) the prevalence of noncompliance 
with ADA and OSHA standards, and (3) the impact on veterans with 
mobility issues.
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    \4\ VA OIG, Better Oversight Needed of Accessibility, Safety, and 
Cleanliness at Contract Facilities Offering VA Disability Exams, May 8, 
2024.
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    The numerous deficiencies at these locations created needless 
burdens for veterans, especially those with spinal cord injuries and 
disorders and those using wheelchairs. Proactive monitoring of 
contractors' facilities is essential to ensure compliance with laws and 
regulations for accommodating individuals with disabilities and 
maintaining an accessible, safe, and clean environment for all veterans 
seeking exams. VBA has made some progress on remediating these issues. 
However, additional monitoring is needed to ensure full compliance.

BACKGROUND

    Regardless of whether a veteran is seen at a VA medical center or 
contract exam facility in the community, all exam facilities must 
comply with ADA and OSHA standards.\5\ The ADA ensures people with 
disabilities have the same access, opportunities, and rights as 
everyone else.\6\ In particular, the act mandates that publicly 
accessible buildings have features to help people using wheelchairs, 
walkers, or crutches to maneuver safely. OSHA sets and enforces 
standards and guidance requiring businesses to maintain clean and 
sanitary workplaces. It also conducts inspections to maintain safe 
working conditions. Notably, exit routes must be free, unobstructed, 
and properly labeled.\7\ They also must be reasonably straight and have 
smooth, solid, and substantially level walkways.
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    \5\ MDE contracts sec. 8.5, ``Deliverable Tasks,'' November 28, 
2018; Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, 42 U.S.C. Sec.  12101 et 
seq. (1990); Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970, 29 U.S.C. 
Sec.  651 et seq. (1970).
    \6\ The OIG's review focused on the ADA's Title III, which applies 
to businesses serving the public. ``Introduction to the Americans with 
Disabilities Act'' (web page), accessed November 8, 2023, https://
www.ada.gov/topics/intro-to-ada/#businesses-that-are-open-to-the-
public; Title III regulations.
    \7\ ``United States Department of Labor, Occupational Safety and 
Health Administration: Maintenance, safeguards, and operational 
features for exit routes. standard 1910.37(a)(3)'' (web page), accessed 
October 23, 2023, https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/
standardnumber/1910/1910.37.
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    VBA created the Medical Disability Examination Office (MDEO) to 
oversee contract exams. VBA staff request disability exams from one of 
the contract exam vendors when the veteran's nearest VA medical center 
has reached or exceeded its maximum capacity for conducting these 
exams.\8\ According to MDEO, during the OIG's review period from 
January 1 through December 31, 2022, three contract vendors performed 
about 88 percent of all exams and a fourth vendor was added.\9\
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    \8\ VA Manual 21-1, ``Mandatory Use of the ERRA Tool,'' updated May 
31, 2022, sec. IV.i.2.A in Adjudication Procedures Manual, topic 1c.
    \9\ The OIG team conducted inspections at facilities from each of 
the four vendors. The fourth vendor was added in June 2022; however, 
that vendor did not complete exams until December 2022.

THE MDEO MUST IMPROVE ITS OVERSIGHT OF CONTRACTORS' DISABILITY EXAM 
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FACILITIES TO ENSURE ACCESSIBILITY AND SAFETY MANDATES ARE MET

    The vendors' contracts require them to inspect all their facilities 
or subcontracted facilities for compliance with ADA and OSHA 
standards.\10\ Yet when the OIG team conducted a complete inspection of 
99 facilities, and partial inspections for an additional 36, more than 
80 percent of them had one or more ADA and OSHA deficiencies.\11\ These 
deficiencies reflect problems related to accessibility, cleanliness, or 
safety, which, in a number of cases, made it difficult to accommodate 
some veterans who needed exams.
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    \10\ The applicable 1991 and 2010 building standards (whichever is 
applicable to the site); Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (web 
page); https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/design-standards/1991-design-
standards/ and ``2010 ADA Standards for Accessible Design'' (web page); 
29 C.F.R. Part 1910, https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/design-standards/
2010-stds/, accessed April 19, 2024.
    \11\ Partial inspections generally consisted of examining only 
facilities' exteriors. This was due to reasons such as the team finding 
facilities closed that had unclear operating hours or operational 
status, or the interior being inaccessible because exam rooms were 
continuously occupied, and the review team did not want to prolong 
veteran exam wait times.
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    The deficiencies went largely undetected by VBA because MDEO did 
not provide sufficient oversight to assess the accuracy of vendors' 
self-certification of ADA and OSHA compliance. The original vendor 
contracts required MDEO to conduct site visits both randomly and in 
response to complaints at exam facilities to assess compliance. 
However, MDEO modified the contracts in September 2021 to state MDEO 
``may'' conduct both random and complaint-based site visits at contract 
facilities at VBA's discretion. In Fiscal Year 2022 (October 1, 2022-
September 30, 2023), MDEO conducted visits at 76 randomly selected 
sites but did not visit any sites in response to complaints. An MDEO 
assistant director said sites are selected based on their proximity to 
exam vendors' headquarters.
    The OIG team's finding was supported by the following four 
determinations:

        MDEO Depended on Vendors for Contract Facility Information

    As of the report's publication, MDEO did not have independent 
access to a current inventory of all contract facilities used to 
perform disability exams, instead relying on vendors to provide this 
information. This reliance has limited its ability to conduct site 
visits. Depending on vendor-provided lists that can be incomplete or 
weighted toward more compliant facilities affects MDEO's capability to 
oversee its vendors. If facilities are overlooked, compliance issues 
may not be found and addressed.
    MDEO reported that the ``vendor is responsible for developing and 
recruiting a provider network and therefore, a complete list of all 
providers they are contracted with would be considered proprietary 
information that they do not wish us to disclose to their 
competitors.'' The OIG contends that VA routinely receives proprietary 
information from contractors and that necessary controls can be 
instituted to limit access to those VA personnel who need the 
information. Particularly where oversight of veteran safety and 
contract exams are at issue, VA must have accurate information.
    Concerningly, two of the four vendors could not provide a 
definitive number of facilities where their subcontractors conduct 
exams. One vendor reasoned that facility numbers are fluid and contract 
facilities are added and removed continually. Another vendor stated 
that when MDEO requests a list of exam facilities, the vendor provides 
10 locations in the geographic area of the facilities where most 
veterans are likely to be seen. Another vendor reported that it would 
provide addresses and hours of operation for the facilities in an area 
upon request from MDEO.
    An MDEO chief said site visits are generally within commuting 
distance of each vendor's headquarters. An assistant director claimed 
that staff plan to expand site visits throughout the country. Another 
assistant director also noted it was difficult to provide an exact 
number of contract facilities, as some examiners practice at more than 
one location, multiple examiners practice at the same locations, and 
some examiners have short-term leases. MDEO's executive director said 
it is working on maintaining its own list and information on contract 
exam facilities, so staff can conduct site visits and desk audits.\12\
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    \12\ Per MDEO, desk audits would include virtual inspections of 
contract exam facilities through photographs, internet images, and any 
available information to validate facility compliance.

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        Recommendation

    MDEO was asked to submit a plan and documentation of progress to 
the OIG on implementing VBA's maintenance of an independent, updated 
list of contract facilities. VBA concurred with maintaining a list of 
facilities but stated it was unable to independently verify all of a 
vendor's active subcontracts.
    This recommendation, and the other eight discussed below, remain 
open (not fully implemented) at this time. In accordance with the OIG's 
routine follow-up process, the first request for an update on all the 
recommendations is on August 9, 2024.\13\ The OIG will monitor VBA's 
progress on its implementation of all recommendations.
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    \13\  At quarterly intervals commencing 90 calendar days from the 
report issue date, the OIG sends a follow-up status request to the 
action office asking for an implementation status report. The follow-up 
staff provides VBA 30 calendar days to respond. Nothing precludes VA 
from submitting information before target dates or scheduled follow up.

        MDEO Assigned Exam Vendors the Task of Distributing 
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        Satisfaction Surveys Rating Their Own Performance

    VBA contracts with a separate survey vendor to work with the four 
exam vendors to obtain veteran contact and appointment information to 
provide all veterans with a paper survey card regarding their exam 
experience, as well as access to other methods such as email or text.
    However, the survey vendor reported it distributed the blank 
customer satisfaction survey forms to the exam vendors, which then 
mailed them to individual veterans. MDEO confirmed the practice was 
consistent with its guidance. Consequently, the survey vendor could not 
monitor how, or if, the customer satisfaction surveys were properly 
distributed and whether every veteran examined received one. As a 
result, MDEO lacks assurance it is receiving the full picture of 
veterans' experiences. MDEO needs the survey vendor or other 
distributor with no vested interest in the results to be responsible 
for mailing the surveys to veterans. Additionally, because the survey 
vendor's performance was tied to the survey response rate, MDEO cannot 
fairly evaluate its performance.
    Per its contract, the survey vendor is expected to meet a minimum 
response rate of 15-20 percent. In 2022, MDEO reported that the overall 
response rate to the customer satisfaction survey was about 11 percent. 
VBA's response to this report noted that in October 2023, a new 
customer satisfaction survey vendor was onboarded.\14\
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        Recommendation

    VBA concurred with the report's second recommendation to comply 
with the requirements of the customer satisfaction survey contract by 
routing exam comment cards directly between the survey vendor and the 
veteran examined.

        MDEO Lacked Formal Standard Operating Procedures and Training 
        for Site Visits to Assess Safety and Accessibility Compliance

    MDEO lacked formal, written, standard operating procedures 
outlining the responsibilities, tasks, and processes for staff 
conducting exam facility site visits. According to VBA's contracts with 
exam vendors, the standard of review for a site visit is based on ADA, 
the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations, 
OSHA, and any applicable State or local standards.\15\ VBA does not 
provide its staff with training on ADA or OSHA compliance. Staff use a 
checklist with a series of yes/no questions and a space for related 
comments. These questions are not specific enough to effectively 
address whether the contractual standards have been met. This was 
particularly true for questions regarding building and exam room 
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    Some MDEO employees said they based their site visit checklist 
responses on simple visual observation, rather than addressing 
established criteria. When MDEO staff and managers were asked about 
specific ADA and OSHA requirements, several reported not knowing the 
specific criteria. For example, parking lots require a minimum 
percentage of disabled parking spaces, and there are minimum dimensions 
for wheelchair turning radius, wheelchair ramp slope, and doorframe 
widths.
    Formal training plays an important role in helping staff acquire 
knowledge, develop skills, and improve performance, especially when 
employees have different roles and tasks. An MDEO assistant director 
stated that most training is done on the job for the practical purpose 
of inspecting facilities; however, MDEO is not opposed to formal 
training. The MDEO executive director said staff are working on a 
formal training program and standard operating procedures, and a 
dedicated team was created to be responsible for providing external 
training to exam vendors and MDEO staff.

        Recommendations

    VBA concurred with the report's third recommendation to develop and 
implement formal standard operating procedures for the contract exam 
facility site visits detailing roles, responsibilities, objectives, and 
monitoring. It concurred in principle with the fourth recommendation 
for MDEO to update the site visit checklist to include a focus on 
specific ADA and OSHA criteria required by exam vendor contracts. VBA 
also concurred in principle with recommendation 5 to complete a 
standardized training plan for site visit staff to include ADA and OSHA 
compliance.

        MDEO Did Not Verify Vendor Compliance with ADA and OSHA 
        Requirements

    Exam vendors are required to self-certify annually that they meet 
all ADA and OSHA requirements for accessibility, safety, and 
cleanliness, and certify all new facilities in the quarter after they 
are added. The contracts allow VBA to suspend any facilities for which 
MDEO has identified concerns regarding health and safety. However, exam 
vendors generally relied on subcontractors to self-certify, and MDEO 
did not validate the self-certifications. One MDEO leader said exam 
vendors should be able to inspect every facility to ensure compliance, 
while another reported being unaware of any instance in which action 
was taken for noncompliance. Further, one of its employees confirmed 
that tracking individual facilities would not be possible because staff 
do not receive a list of each facility being self-certified; they 
received regional certification from the vendor. The vendor's self-
certification process was not comprehensive or reliable because there 
was no validation, likely contributing to the unresolved ADA and OSHA 
facility deficiencies.
    Veterans can submit complaints about contract exams through avenues 
such as the OIG hotline, VA regional offices, the White House hotline, 
veterans service officers, and MDEO. Exam vendors also submit incident 
reports to MDEO.\16\ However, MDEO was not conducting complaint-based 
reviews even when survey responses identified deficiencies. The OIG 
found that MDEO should review all sources to determine if a complaint-
based site visit is warranted.
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distress, violent or threatening behavior from the veteran, or natural 
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    The OIG's report describes two incidents in which veterans were 
unable to be examined because a contract facility could not accommodate 
a wheelchair. In one incident, the veteran was injured being 
transferred from a wheelchair into an audio booth with inadequate space 
to maneuver a wheelchair.

        Recommendations

    VBA concurred with the sixth recommendation to conduct complaint-
based contract facility inspections, and with recommendation 7 to 
enforce contractual requirements for vendors to conduct inspections and 
recertify all facilities for ADA and OSHA compliance. Although VBA 
requested the latter recommendation's closure, the OIG will only do so 
after monitoring MDEO's contract enforcement.

THE OIG FOUND ADA AND OSHA DEFICIENCIES THAT MAKE EXAM FACILITIES 
DIFFICULT TO ACCESS AND UNABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME VETERANS

    Some veterans said their exams were canceled as contract facilities 
did not comply with ADA or OSHA requirements and could not accommodate 
their mobility or sensory issues. For example, accessible medical 
equipment should include adjustable-height exam tables and chairs, 
wheelchair-accessible scales, adjustable-height radiologic equipment, 
portable floor and overhead track lifts, and gurneys and 
stretchers.\17\ The OIG review team also found numerous facilities 
lacking adjustable exam tables.
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    Examples of survey responses from veterans highlight accessibility, 
safety, and cleanliness concerns at contract exam facilities:

      ``Wheelchair access is too sleep [sic] for handicap with 
wheelchair.''

      ``Not handicap accessible very hard getting a wheelchair 
in and out of the main entrance door.''

      ``No ramp for wheelchair.''

      ``The doorway entering the building has a 2-3 inch 
threshold that a wheelchair or scooter has to be lifted over.''

      ``Handicap ramp not wheelchair friendly.''

      ``Wasn't able to complete exam due to not being able to 
get into the exam booth.''

      ``Getting in and out of the sound booth was difficult 
because the wheelchair is too large for the booth. Very unsafe.''

      ``Office was dirty with bugs crawling on the floor.''

    The OIG team developed a site visit protocol that enhanced the MDEO 
approach by including ADA and OSHA compliance criteria to be used for 
135 sites. This protocol consisted of questions related to seven areas 
of concern: (1) the facility location, (2) safety and protective 
equipment, (3) exam rooms, (4) general medical clinical equipment and 
supplies, (5) audiology clinical equipment and supplies, (6) 
ophthalmology or dental clinical equipment and supplies, and (7) 
protections for vulnerable veterans.
    Using this protocol, the team first inspected 87 randomly selected 
facilities (62 complete and 25 partial inspections) that performed 
disability exams nationwide from January 1 through December 31, 2022.

    The OIG found that

      45 facilities had at least one accessibility 
deficiency,\18\
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of ramps, narrow doorways, an elevated audio booth with no ramp, no 
adjustable exam tables, and improper door hardware.

      36 facilities had at least one safety deficiency,\19\
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partially blocked exits, and tripping hazards.

      eight facilities had at least one cleanliness deficiency, 
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    \20\ Cleanliness deficiencies included bugs in fire alarms, stained 
carpets, inappropriate waste disposal, and no available hand sanitation 
equipment in designated areas.

      15 facilities had no deficiencies.\21\
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the 62 complete inspections only. Some facilities had more than one 
type of deficiency; therefore, numbers may not sum to the total number 
of sites.

    The team then inspected 48 newly added facilities (37 complete and 
11 partial inspections) from the four vendors chosen both randomly and 
based on veteran complaints. The facilities were added between January 
1 and March 31, 2023, allowing the OIG review team to ascertain whether 
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    The team identified

      28 facilities with at least one accessibility deficiency,

      23 facilities with at least one safety deficiency,

      one facility with at least one cleanliness deficiency, 
and

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        Examples of ADA and OSHA Deficiencies

    ADA accessibility deficiencies included issues with handicap 
parking, wheelchair ramps, accessible entrances, bathrooms, exam rooms, 
medical equipment, and audio booths. For example, the team found the 
entrance threshold at a facility in California was too high. Facilities 
in Texas, Wisconsin, and Missouri all had audio booth accessibility 
deficiencies, ranging from insufficient wheelchair turning radius to 
higher-than-allowed door thresholds or no permanent or temporary 
wheelchair ramp access.
    Examples of safety deficiencies included blocked stairways, 
noncompliant handrails, expired or inaccessible fire extinguishers, and 
blocked exit routes. No materials or equipment may be placed, either 
permanently or temporarily, in the exit route. Additionally, the exit 
route must have a smooth, solid, and substantially level walkway. At a 
facility in Texas, the OIG found a fire extinguisher that was stored in 
a cabinet under a sink, also with the last evidence of inspection being 
June 2017. The review team also identified eight facilities from the 
initial inspection of 12 states with at least one cleanliness 
deficiency. Some deficiencies included common area cleanliness, lack of 
personal protective equipment and single-use medical supplies, and lack 
of available hand sanitation equipment in designated areas.

EXAMS SCHEDULED AT FACILITIES WITH ADA AND OSHA DEFICIENCIES MAY CREATE 
DIFFICULTIES FOR VETERANS WITH MOBILITY ISSUES

    MDEO told the OIG that vendors are not allowed to cancel an exam 
specifically because a facility was not ADA-compliant, noting that 
vendors would need to reschedule appointments if a room, booth, or exam 
table was not accessible at the time of the scheduled exam for someone 
who uses a wheelchair. Concerningly, one vendor could not confirm if 
its scheduling unit asked veterans if they needed accommodations at the 
time the appointment was set up.
    The OIG's inspection confirmed ADA deficiencies may make it unable 
to accommodate veterans with mobility issues. Rescheduling these exams 
after veterans have needlessly gone to a facility takes time and may 
entail traveling long distances. Rescheduling may also delay their 
disability benefit claims from being processed. The OIG determined MDEO 
had not been holding vendors accountable to ensure exam facilities are 
accessible, safe, and clean for veterans attending exams.

        Recommendations

    VBA concurred in principle with the report's eighth recommendation 
to analyze all veteran complaints related to facilities received 
through all entities and perform complaint-based site visits or create 
action plans, as necessary. It also concurred with the final 
recommendation for MDEO to develop a plan with its vendors to determine 
if each veteran requires accessibility arrangements before scheduling 
an exam.

CONCLUSION

    A critical foundation of accountability for any program is 
effective oversight to detect and resolve issues. This is crucial for 
medical exams given how critical they are to ensuring veterans receive 
accurate and timely disability benefits claims decisions. Additionally, 
the need for VBA to conduct thorough oversight is essential given the 
billions of taxpayer dollars paid to contractors. The OIG recognizes 
the challenges with doing so when most of these exams are conducted 
outside of VA facilities by nongovernmental personnel. As a VBA leader 
noted, however, while VA does not own contractor exam facilities, they 
represent the face of VA for veterans applying for benefits.
    The deficiencies identified by the OIG persisted because MDEO's 
oversight was ineffective at detecting and correcting them, 
particularly in failing to consistently conduct site visits in response 
to veterans' complaints. VBA and its vendors must continue to take 
swift corrective action to ensure veterans with spinal cord injuries 
and disabilities, as well as others requiring accommodations, have 
prompt access to suitable exams that will help determine their 
disability benefits. Mr. Chairman, this concludes my statement. I would 
be happy to answer any questions you or members of the subcommittee may 
have.

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                   Prepared Statement of Sonya Sotak

    Chairman Bost, Ranking member Takano and members of the committee, 
it is my honor to be invited to testify today on behalf of I AM ALS and 
representing approximately 6,000 veterans living with ALS in the United 
States. My name is Sonya Sotak and I am the Chief Government Affairs 
Officer for I AM ALS. I AM ALS is a small but mighty non-profit 
organization for people living with ALS. Our organization is a patient-
centric driven organization, and many of our activities and policy 
efforts are driven by and collaborated with the actual community. We 
were established in 2017 by Brian Wallach and his wife, Sandra, after 
Brian was diagnosed with ALS at the age of 37 on the same day they 
brought their second daughter home from the hospital. Since then, I AM 
ALS has been privileged to partner with many of you here today to help 
move significant pieces of legislation through Congress to support 
people with ALS. First, the ALS Disability Insurance Access Act, which 
passed with unanimous support in the House of Representatives in 2020; 
next, we worked with many of you to get the ACT for ALS passed in 2021, 
again, with overwhelming bipartisan support. Also, many of you on both 
sides of the aisle have helped the community increase funding for the 
ALS research program at the Department of Defense. For the last 2 
years, I AM ALS and the entire community of ALS organizations have 
urged Congress to double this funding since the incidence of ALS among 
veterans is at least two times that of the general population.
    We also know that the Department of Defense ALS research program is 
receiving more than double the amount of quality research proposals 
that need grant support--proposals that they cannot approve at the 
current funding amount--and represent strong science that otherwise 
might be able to address the needs of veterans with ALS. We know that 
the proposed Fiscal Year 2025 funding measure remains at $40 million 
but we continue to urge Congress to find a way to increase resources 
for this program for Fiscal Year 2025 and invest in research that can 
address this horrible disease and help the 1 in 6 people with ALS who 
are veterans.
    We thank each of you and all of Congress for these important 
accomplishments and truly appreciate the bipartisanship effort that it 
took to achieve each of these advancements and the willingness for 
everyone to work together to pass legislation improving the lives of 
people, including thousands of veterans living with ALS.
    As I mentioned, our organization is driven by community members 
affected by ALS themselves, thousands of volunteers taking action. Our 
veterans team created by incredible veterans and caregivers for 
veterans living with ALS is one of our most powerful and impactful 
committees. These veterans with ALS and their loved ones identify 
barriers, create tools and toolkits, and advocate to ensure that the VA 
benefit and health care system is easier to navigate and provides 
better and more accessible services. Sadly, we know all too well that 
this advocacy is needed to ensure basic, supportive care for veterans 
with ALS. As an example, our toolkit helps veterans identify and 
receive existing veteran benefits once they are diagnosed with ALS. 
This basic guide is over 45 pages long--that is how complex the system 
is for our veterans at a time when they are already overwhelmed and 
should be focusing on maximizing life with family rather than 
navigating a complex, bureaucratic healthcare system. Lack of knowledge 
of the VA system can result in frustration and delays in service. 
Because ALS can progress rapidly, delays need to be avoided at all 
costs. Congress recognized this when you passed the ALS waiver 
eliminating the SSDI waiting period. Our veterans with ALS and their 
families deserve the same recognition when accessing benefits. We urge 
you to work to ensure that all the veterans not yet diagnosed will be 
taken care of and hopefully enter a VA system that provides stronger 
and better access to health care and support services than they have 
had while enduring ALS.
    As the Chairman and committee members know, ALS is recognized as a 
one hundred percent service related disease. Statistics vary but we 
know at a minimum members of our military are two times more likely 
than civilians to develop ALS. This stat skyrockets to ten-times when 
examining post-9/11 Airforce veterans. We also have seen data that 
estimates approximately 5000-6000 of the 30,000 people with ALS in the 
United States are veterans or again, about 16 percent. I say 
approximately because the world of ALS lacks solid data for many 
reasons but one key reason is the significant delay and complexity in 
diagnosing ALS. The prevalence of misdiagnosis is incredibly high and 
many people may never receive the right diagnosis or receive their 
diagnosis too late for being factored into national data. We also have 
a national system that does not compel data collection and is based on 
self reporting. This is such a complex topic it's worthy of its own 
hearing another day up here.
    Before I dive into access to home health care that is critical for 
our veterans with ALS I want to set the table with some critical facts.
    First, I want to be sure that the committee and everyone here today 
knows that ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease as it is often known, is 100 
percent fatal.
    Nobody survives ALS and most die within 2-5 years after being 
diagnosed. When people finally receive a diagnosis they are told to go 
home--get their affairs in order and prepare to die. So every one of 
our veterans that develop ALS will die from it no matter how hard they 
fight or how strong their valor. Every single veteran will lose their 
battle with ALS.
    ALS is a neurodegenerative disease that affects nerve cells in the 
brain and spinal cord. ALS is a wicked, cruel disease that slowly 
paralyzes a person, taking away their capacity to be self sufficient 
and eventually losing their ability to breath.
    ALS was determined to be a one hundred percent service connected 
disease by the Department of Veteran Affairs on September 23, 2008. 
Following that decision it has been a tough and multifaceted journey 
for a multitude of reasons within the VA to provide the necessary, 
appropriate and equitable support for Veterans with ALS. The VA issued 
the VHA directive 1101.07 the ALS system of care in August 2021. The 
intent of this directive is to ensure that all care, services and 
access to equipment is known to veterans and their families including 
the responsible parties for ensuring access. Too often while managing 
ALS, many of our veterans and their families have to take significant 
time to advocate for themselves and often it is to explain to the VA 
what their VA benefits actually are as a veteran with ALS.
    The VA's Spinal cord injuries and disorders (SCI/D) centers are 
designed to provide comprehensive care for veterans with spinal cord 
injuries and related injuries. However, these centers often face 
challenges fully meeting the needs of veterans with ALS due to the 
multifaceted nature of ALS. Part of the challenge is the SCI/D's are 
set up for your typical spinal cord injury which are often a static 
disease while ALS is a progressive & increasingly complicated 
debilitating disease.

    Specialized care: ALS requires specialized neurological and 
respiratory care that is often not fully available at SCI/D centers. 
For instance, expertise in managing progressive muscle weakness and 
continued respiratory failure is something lacking at these centers. 
ALS requires multidisciplinary care with a coordinated approach by a 
team of health care professionals from a variety of disciplines to 
manage the complex needs of a Veteran with ALS. The goals are to 
improve the quality of life, slow the disease progression and provide 
much needed psychological and social support. This is too often not 
possible and simply not how the SCI/d's are set up and they often lack 
the staffing capacity and training for meeting the needs of our 
veterans with ALS. Expertise is often lacking for managing progressive 
muscle weakness and repository failure at the centers.

    Advanced respiratory Support : Veterans with ALS often need 
advanced respiratory support, including non-invasive ventilation or 
mechanical ventilation which is often not the focus of SCI/D centers.

    Comprehensive team : As I outlined earlier, the SCI/D centers do 
not have all the specialists available for ALS veterans or do not have 
the same level of coordination and collaboration as some ALS clinics or 
even what is available through accessing care in a veterans home 
setting.

    SCI/Ds often have Insufficient focus on ALS specific interventions 
including:

Assistive technology:

    Veterans with ALS often need specific assistive technologies such 
as augmentative and alternative communication devices which may not be 
readily available or supported in the centers.

Adaptive equipment

    Too often the centers focus on spinal cord injury specific 
equipment and not the evolving and very demanding and intricate needs 
of ALS veterans.

Psychological and social support gaps

    The specialties counseling and training needs for managing the 
extensive emotional and psychological support needed by ALS veterans 
and their families as a result of the rapid progression and terminal 
nature of the disease is often found to be lacking at the centers.

Palliative and end of life care

    Many of the SCI centers do not have integrated palliative care 
services tailored to the specific needs of ALS veterans. ALS support 
requires significant palliative care and end of life planning which has 
a unique perspective and approach for managing ALS symptoms and quality 
of life.
    Another key challenge is the location of the 25 centers. Many of 
them are simply not near many of our veterans living with ALS and not 
easily accessible for the veterans scattered around the country 
managing the very debilitating disease of ALS.
    I AM ALS and our veterans community believe an important component 
of their ALS care is being able to remain in their home. For this 
reason, I AM ALS fully supports the Senator Elizabeth Dole 21st Century 
Veterans Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act. While this 
comprehensive bill contains many important measures, I would like to 
focus on the pieces that are most important for veterans with ALS--The 
Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act contained in this comprehensive package is 
significant for veterans with ALS for several reasons:

    Most significant for our community of veterans with ALS is that the 
legislation increases the expenditure cap for non-institutional care 
from 65 percent to 100 percent of the cost of the closest VA Community 
Living Center (CLC). This would allow the most vulnerable veterans and 
caregivers the support they need to stay in their homes, often leading 
to better outcomes for veteran families, especially veteran families 
grappling with ASL.
    The removal of the cap would help families care for their 100 
percent service-disabled veterans with ALS. Because of the mandated 
cap, families constantly have to fight with the VA to get the 
appropriate support in their home so their veteran can continue to 
enjoy being near family rather than being sent away to a facility which 
is often hours away from the much needed support system of family and 
friends. For many veterans remaining in their home with friends and 
family during their hardest battle managing ALS is paramount. Staying 
in their home with loved ones improves their quality of life but it can 
also help reduce medical complications.
    Let me share the story of Navy veteran Garrett who served as part 
of the Seabees, a construction battalion with tours in Iraq and 
Afghanistan. Garrett's journey with ALS was challenging and started 
with him being forced to make the longer journey to Milwaukee because 
they had the VA ALS clinic even though the Iron Mountain VA was much 
closer to his home. As the disease progressed, and these road trips 
were no longer feasible Garret had to start a Go Fund Me campaign to 
try and offset the additional home health care he needed that wasn't 
provided by the VA. Eventually, he did hit the cap. It was far more 
complicated--his wife was overwhelmed with managing his care alone for 
so many hours to prevent hitting the 65 percent cap, while also being a 
single parent for their three young children. Then, Garret had to get a 
trach. After all this chaos, Garrett hit the cap and had to go to an 
institution. Garret tried his best to maneuver the system so he could 
get back home with medical support from home care. Unfortunately, the 
current structure would not afford him that final return home and 
Garrett made the decision to remove his trachea and end his own life 
rather than spend his days alone in the center far from his family and 
without the daily support from friends, family and his kids. Garrett is 
not the only veteran that we know that chose to end their life early 
rather than endure being in a VA institution that failed to meet their 
medical needs and lacked an appreciation for the care they needed as a 
veteran with ALS. Even one veteran is one veteran too many to be 
isolated from friends and family because of the distance from their 
communities and family when forced to leave their homes for care 
because of a cap limiting their access to support in their home .

    Comprehensive care for veterans with ALS. As I shared earlier--ALS 
is a neurodegenerative condition and as the disease progresses, 
veterans with ALS require extensive and specialized care. The Elizabeth 
Dole Home Care Act ensures that our Nation's veterans receive 
comprehensive home-based care tailored to their complex needs, improves 
their quality of life and allows them to remain in a familiar and 
comfortable environment with their families, friends or loved ones.
    Also included in the Elizabeth Dole Home Care Act is the Veteran 
Directed, Home-Based Primary Care and the Homemaker Home Health Aide 
programs that support the care and quality of life of veterans and 
caregivers, especially at home and can serve as a lifeline for veterans 
and caregivers in need. This program, a joint offering from the VA and 
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), offers veterans and 
caregivers greater choice and control over their care and services by 
allowing participants to utilize friends and family members to provide 
unskilled care including transportation support and other services to 
support the veteran in their home. Veterans and caregivers can 
supervise their own employees and hire additional support during the 
hours that are needed rather than being subject to agency hours and 
restrictions. In addition, this program has been especially helpful to 
those who struggle to find appropriate care in their homes either due 
to contracted agency employee absences or the general dearth of HHA 
providers around the country.

Support for Caregivers.

    The Elizabeth Dole Act recognizes the important role of caregivers, 
often family members, in managing the daily needs of veterans with ALS. 
By providing resources, training and financial support to caregivers, 
the Act helps reduce the emotional and financial burdens and allows 
them to provide better care and support for our veterans. Being a 
caregiver is hard work; being a caregiver for a person with ALS is 
beyond daunting and incredibly exhausting.

Access to Medical Services.

    The medical needs for veterans with ALS are complex and frequent 
including physical therapy, respiratory care and many other specialized 
treatments. The Elizabeth Dole Act facilitates access to these 
necessary treatments at home, reducing the need for hospital visits or 
visits to SCI/D centers that often lack the personnel and speciality 
training needed for minimizing the risks for people with ALS, including 
infections, complications and sadly, but very frequently medical 
professionals who simply are not familiar with ALS and unintentionally 
create more complications when they treat our veterans with ALS.

Quality of Life

    Helps maintain a sense of independence and dignity for veterans 
while ensuring they receive the medical attention and daily assistance 
they need while remaining in a safe and comfortable home environment 
with advocates around them to ensure their needs are being met.

Economic benefits

    Home based care is more cost effective than institutional care. By 
raising the cap to 100 percent and supporting veterans with ALS 
receiving home care the EDHCA helps manage health care costs more 
efficiently while allowing veterans to receive high quality 
personalized care.
    I AM ALS is so pleased that the Elizabeth Dole Home care Act is 
bringing greater awareness of the challenges and needs of veterans 
living with ALS especially those that need more support than the 
current SCI centers can provide. This bipartisan legislation advocates 
for and demands higher quality care including respect and dignity of 
care in their homes with loving friends and family. This legislation 
will ensure that our Nation's veterans with ALS receive the respect and 
care they certainly deserve after their service to our country.
    I would be remiss if I didn't take the honor and privilege of 
engaging with Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano and the entire 
committee without mentioning other key priorities for veterans with ALS 
that we hope you will support and guide through Congress quickly for 
our veterans with ALS.
    As I mentioned earlier, I AM ALS supports doubling the funding for 
CDMRP ALS Research at the Department of Defense. Multiple studies have 
reported that Veterans are significantly more likely to be diagnosed 
with ALS than those who did not serve in the U.S. military. While the 
specific cause of this increased risk is unknown, the correlation 
between military service and ALS is well-established so we encourage a 
significant investment in researching this disease and finding a way to 
treat ALS for the thousands of veterans that will develop this horrific 
disease. We know that the additional research projects exist and are 
simply not being funded because of the lack of resources being 
allocated. We urge you to increase the funding to $80 million for 
Fiscal Year 2025.
    I AM ALS also urges Congress to pass the Justice for ALS Veterans. 
This bipartisan legislation would fix the unfair policy that denies 
benefits to the surviving spouses of veterans who died from ALS by 
providing the surviving spouse with the DIC kicker without meeting the 
8 years of disability requirement. Unfortunately, because most people 
with ALS, a recognized service-connected disease, live fewer than 8 
years from diagnosis, the surviving spouses of veterans with ALS have 
been unfairly denied this benefit. The same spouses who may have quit 
their jobs to take care of their loved ones who progressively lost 
muscle control, became paralyzed and relied heavily on their caregiver 
to stay alive.

Closing

    I AM ALS is incredibly appreciative for all that Congress has done 
for the ALS community in a bipartisan, collegial manner, but the ALS 
community needs Congress to do even more for this 100 percent fatal 
disease with no real treatment options. And we need you to do more with 
a specific focus on our veterans with ALS. We should not allow a system 
of care to continue that sees more veterans like Garrett decide that 
ending their lives is preferred to enduring a VA institution that fails 
them that doesn't provide the support and medical care they need, and 
certainly doesn't have the staff available or trained to meet their 
complex medical needs despite their sacrifices and commitment to our 
Nation through their military service. I AM ALS encourages the 
Committee and Congress to continue working together without politics 
and to help move important measures forward including the Elizabeth 
Dole Home Care Act as part of the Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans 
healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act. Our veterans with ALS who have 
sacrificed for our country and selflessly served our Nation deserve to 
have access to home based care. They need all of you to keep working 
together to support them and support their families as they are in 
their final battle against a wicked, cruel disease.
    Thank you for your time and know that the ALS community appreciates 
your efforts and continued work together in Congress for people with 
ALS, especially our veterans. For this reason we urge you to work 
together to get the Elizabeth Dole 21st Century Veterans Healthcare and 
Benefits Improvement Act passed this year on suspension so critical 
services are made available for veterans with ALS.

                                 

                  Prepared Statement of Jenny Kiratli

    Chairman Bost and Ranking Member Takano, and Members of the House 
Committee on Veterans' Affairs:

    Thank you for inviting the American Federation of Government 
Employees (AFGE) to participate in today's Committee hearing, ``A Call 
to Action: Meeting the Needs of the Spinal Cord Injury and Disorders 
(SCI/D) Veteran Community.''
    I am Dr. Jenny Kiratli, and I have been a member of AFGE since 2009 
and a research health scientist in the Spinal Cord Injury and Disorders 
(SCI/D) Center, VA Palo Alto Health Care System (VAPAHCS) since 1991. 
AFGE's National Veterans Affairs Council represents more than 302,000 
AFGE VA employees across the Veterans' Health Administration (VHA), 
Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA), and the National Cemetery 
Administration (NCA). I have more than 30 years of experience 
conducting research on clinical issues affecting people with SCI 
including musculoskeletal conditions, bone and body composition; and 
nutrition, activity, and exercise interventions--with a focus on 
extending therapies into the home to facilitate wellness. I am Director 
of the VA Advanced Fellowship Program in SCI Research and Associate 
Research Director for the SCI Medicine Clinical Fellowship Program. I 
am dedicated to mentoring junior investigators and fostering 
partnerships with veterans and other stakeholders and colleagues to 
conduct research that can be implemented into best practice.
    The Spinal Cord Injury and Disorders (SCI/D) Center, VA Palo Alto 
Health Care System (VAPAHCS) is one of 25 Spinal Cord Injury and 
Disorders Centers located around the country. These centers offer 
lifelong, comprehensive, integrated, coordinated care that includes 
primary care, rehabilitation, emergency care, acute medical and 
surgical care, mental health care, and home care. The Palo Alto VA also 
has dietitians, respiratory therapists and orthotists & prosthetists on 
staff. Our services are aimed at supporting the veteran as a whole 
person including services that reintegrate veterans into the community 
and provide respite care and family education. Our facility has also 
pioneered telehealth services, which we launched in 2000. The expertise 
of the interdisciplinary care team and breadth of the services makes 
the VA SCI/D network the most comprehensive SCI/D care delivery system 
in the U.S.
    The VA's system of care for SCI/D uses a hub and spokes model. The 
25 SCID centers are the hub facilities staffed with clinicians 
including therapists and psychologists trained to provide specialized 
care to people with a spinal cord injury or disorders. These hub 
facilities coordinate with approximately 120 designated medical 
``spokes'' facilities that do not have their own SCI/D center. The hub 
and spokes model expands the reach of the SCI/D program ensuring that 
veterans not located near an SCI/D center have access to comprehensive 
primary and specialized care tailored to the unique needs of 
individuals with spinal cord injuries and disorders. Primary care 
physicians need special training to serve SCI/D patients' specific 
needs. For example, primary care physicians treating the SCI/D 
population must be able to diagnose and treat an array of problems that 
may present differently in patients with spinal cord injuries such as 
bone breaks and infections. They must also be trained to recommend 
appropriate preventive care screenings and manage comorbidities common 
to SCI/D patients such as metabolic disease, endocrine disease, and 
musculoskeletal disorders. Most physicians in the SCI/D Centers pursue 
an additional year of focused training in SCI Medicine through 
fellowship programs.
    Veterans comprise more than a quarter of the SCI/D population in 
the U.S.\1\ The Palo Alto SCI/D system serves approximately 1,000 of 
the 18,000 veterans that receive SCI/D services across the VA system. 
Our center serves veterans and active-duty military personnel. While 
those with service-connected injuries are eligible for enhanced 
services, VA SCI/D centers serve veterans and active-duty military 
personnel with nonservice related spinal cord injuries and disorders.
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    \1\ Cai S, Bakerjian D, Bang H, Mahajan SM, Ota D, Kiratli J. Data 
acquisition process for VA and non-VA emergency department and hospital 
utilization by veterans with spinal cord injury and disorders in 
California using VA and State data. J Spinal Cord Med. 2022 
Mar;45(2):254-261. doi: 10.1080/10790268.2020.1773028. Epub 2020 Jun 
16. PMID: 32543354; PMCID: PMC8986188.
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    Clinical research conducted at Palto Alto SCI/D center can drive 
improvements in care delivery that can also benefit non-veterans living 
with spinal cord injuries and disorders. VA Palo Alto's Spinal Cord 
(SCI/D) Center conducts significant clinical research aimed at 
developing best practices for care for veterans with SCI/D. In my role 
as director of clinical research, one of my current studies aims to 
improve the assessment of bone health of veterans living with SCI/D. 
Prior to this work, there has been no standardized method for measuring 
bone health at the knee, a common fracture site for those with SCI/D. 
This study will help inform evaluation of bone health for all veterans.
    Adaptive gaming is another area where VA is plugging a research gap 
that existed for the SCI/D population. Adaptive gaming as a therapeutic 
tool had been studied within the stroke population, but specific 
research was needed on muscle activation of upper limb muscles in 
people with spinal cord injuries to determine whether video gaming 
improved upper limb motor performance, balance, coordination, and 
cardiovascular status. The project I led found that selected Wii games 
were able to elicit upper extremity muscle activation and elevated 
heart rates for individuals with SCI that may be used to target 
therapeutic outcomes.
    VA further serves the general SCI/D population by pioneering 
modifications to existing technologies to adapt them for the SCI/D 
population. For example, a modification to standing wheelchairs 
pioneered by a team from the Minneapolis VA Health Care System allows 
people to move while in standing positions. Early models of standing 
wheelchairs allowed people to stand but not to move in the standing 
position. VA physicians worked with biomedical engineers to add a chain 
drive system to the chair that allows users to push their chairs from a 
standing position. The Palo Alto VA collaborates with the Minneapolis 
VA to research the use of this adaptation to maximize the use of the 
technology for the SCI/D population. All VA research is ultimately 
shared with non-VA SCI facilities through published research and 
conferences, contributing to the overall benefit of the larger, non-VA 
SCI/D population.
    VA also plays an important role in training SCI/D professionals 
collaborating with academic programs to provide clinical training. VA 
has an advanced fellowship training in SCI medicine. More needs to be 
done to encourage young clinicians to enter the field. Of the 31 
positions for the SCI clinical training program only usually fewer than 
20 positions are filled.
    We also participated in a multi-site VA study to establish, 
implement and test a model for vocational rehabilitation that greatly 
enhances opportunities for veterans with SCI/D to return to work and 
contribute to the workforce in meaningful ways by partnering with 
potential employers to understand the needs of each individual and 
develop jobs that meet their needs.
    The VA is at the forefront of improving clinical outcomes and 
quality of life for veterans and all people living with spinal cord 
injuries and disorders. However, more can be done to strengthen the 
VA's SCI/D system. While the hub and spokes model greatly expands 
access to VA's SCI/D services, there are gaps in care, particularly for 
veterans in rural areas where more spoke facilities are needed.
    There is a great need for increased staffing for SCI/D services. 
Individuals with SCI have challenging and complex health care needs 
requiring significant support. They live with many secondary 
complications that require vigilance to prevent functional decline and 
premature death. Individuals with SCI are two to five times more likely 
to die a prematurely.\2\ SCI is also associated with higher rates of 
mental illness, with one in five suffering from depression, 
significantly higher rates of anxiety, posttraumatic stress disorder, 
and death by suicide. \3\ Staffing requirements for SCI/D centers 
should be updated to reflect the higher acuity of the SCI/D population. 
Because of the complexity of SCI/D care, it requires specialized 
certification and training. The high acuity of care creates burnout and 
younger clinical staff often leave just when they have gained 
sufficient skills to perform all their duties. It is difficult to use 
temporary staff, such as floating nurses, to deal with short staffing 
in SCI/D centers because specialized training is required. As a result, 
SCI nurses can be moved elsewhere to deal with staffing shortages, but 
non-SCI nurses cannot easily fill in on SCI unit. Additional retention 
incentives are needed to address vacancies and turnover.
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    \2\ Touchett, H., Apodaca, C., Siddiqui, S. et al. Current 
Approaches in Telehealth and Telerehabilitation for Spinal Cord Injury 
(TeleSCI). Curr Phys Med Rehabil Rep 10, 77-88 (2022). https://doi.org/
10.1007/s40141-022-00348-5
    \3\ Touchett, H., Apodaca, C., Siddiqui, S. et al. Current 
Approaches in Telehealth and Telerehabilitation for Spinal Cord Injury 
(TeleSCI). Curr Phys Med Rehabil Rep 10, 77-88 (2022). https://doi.org/
10.1007/s40141-022-00348-5
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    The Mission Act increased access to non-VA facilities. Research 
suggests that use of VA and non-VA care has the potential to cause 
unintended duplication of services, costs and fragmentation of care.\4\ 
But the potential for inadequate care is a greater concern for veterans 
with SCI/D. The VA's SCI/D model provides uniquely comprehensive and 
integrated services delivered by highly knowledgeable teams of 
specialists that do not exist in the private sector. In addition, non-
VA providers lack access to VA resources such as medical equipment and 
a wide array of adaptive products, often created for each individual 
veteran to meet his or her specific needs. Further, non-specialists 
often do not recognize serious disorders (e.g., a bone fracture) 
because of an absence of the normal symptoms. Care should be taken to 
ensure that increasing privatization of VA services does not upend the 
VA's specialized SCI/D care model that provides veterans living with 
spinal cord injury and disorders an array of integrated services and 
provides research used to develop best practices for all people living 
with spinal cord injuries and disorders.
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    \4\ Hatch MN, Etingen B, Raad J, Siddiqui S, Stroupe KT, Smith BM. 
Dual utilization of Medicare and VA outpatient care among Veterans with 
spinal cord injuries and disorders. J Spinal Cord Med. 2023 
Sep;46(5):716-724. doi: 10.1080/10790268.2022.2027321. Epub 2022 Feb 2. 
PMID: 35108176; PMCID: PMC10446768.

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