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                   MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Texas, Chairman

CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey     GREGORY MEEKS, New York, Ranking 
JOE WILSON, South Carolina               Member
SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania            BRAD SHERMAN, California
DARRELL ISSA, California             GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia
ANN WAGNER, Missouri                 WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts
BRIAN MAST, Florida                  AMI BERA, California
TIM BURCHETT, Tennessee              JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas
MARK E. GREEN, Tennessee             DINA TITUS, Nevada
ANDY BARR, Kentucky                  TED LIEU, California
RONNY JACKSON, Texas                 SUSAN WILD, Pennsylvania
YOUNG KIM, California                DEAN PHILLIPS, Minnesota
MARIA ELVIRA SALAZAR, Florida        COLIN ALLRED, Texas
BILL HUIZENGA, Michigan              ANDY KIM, New Jersey
AUMUA AMATA COLEMAN RADEWAGEN,       SARA JACOBS, California
    American Samoa                   KATHY MANNING, North Carolina
FRENCH HILL, Arkansas                SHEILA CHERFILUS-McCORMICK, 
WARREN DAVIDSON, Ohio                    Florida
JIM BAIRD, Indiana                   GREG STANTON, Arizona
MICHAEL WALTZ, Florida               MADELEINE DEAN, Pennsylvania
THOMAS KEAN, JR., New Jersey         JARED MOSKOWITZ, Florida
MICHAEL LAWLER, New York             JONATHAN JACKSON, Illinois
CORY MILLS, Florida                  SYDNEY KAMLAGER-DOVE, California
RICH McCORMICK, Georgia              JIM COSTA, California
NATHANIEL MORAN, Texas               JASON CROW, Colorado
JOHN JAMES, Michigan                 KWEISI MFUME, Maryland
KEITH SELF, Texas                    BRAD SCHNEIDER, Illinois
RYAN K. ZINKE, Montana
JAMES C. MOYLAN, Guam

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                 Sajit Gandhi, Minority Staff Director
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 SUBCOMMITTEE ON GLOBAL HEALTH, GLOBAL HUMAN RIGHTS AND INTERNATIONAL 
                             ORGANIZATIONS

                CHRISTOPHER SMITH, New Jersey, Chairman

MARIA SALAZAR, Florida               SUSAN WILD, Pennsylvania, Ranking 
AMATA RADEWAGEN, American Samoa          Member
FRENCH HILL, Arkansas                AMI BERA, California
RICH MCCORMICK, Georgia              SARA JACOBS, California
JOHN JAMES, Michigan                 KATHY MANNING, North Carolina
                       
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Opening Statement of Subcommittee Chairman Christopher H. Smith..     1
Opening Statement of Subcommittee Ranking Member Susan Wild......     4
Opening Statement of Representative William Keating..............     5

                               WITNESSES

Statement of Robert Koepcke, Deputy Assistant Secretary for 
  Japan, Korea, and Mongolia, Bureau of East Asian and Pacific 
  Affairs, U.S. Department of State..............................     6
  Prepared Statement.............................................     9
Statement of Michelle Bernier-Toth, Special Advisor for 
  Children's Issues, Bureau of Consular Affairs, U.S. Department 
  of State.......................................................    13
  Prepared Statement.............................................    15
Testimony of Mr. Jeffery Morehouse, Executive Director, Bring 
  Abducted Children Home and Father of a Child Kidnapped to Japan    34
  Prepared Statement.............................................    40
Testimony of Nafeesah Ali Ismail, Youth Ambassador, iStand 
  Survivor Network Inc...........................................    46
  Prepared Statement.............................................    49
Testimony of Melissa A. Kucinski, Esquire Attorney, Mediator, 
  MKFL...........................................................    54
  Prepared Statement.............................................    56

                                APPENDIX

Hearing Notice...................................................    68
Hearing Minutes..................................................    70
Hearing Attendance...............................................    71

                        Material for the Record

Letter to PM Fumio Kashida from Rep. Smith.......................    72
Written statement from Mr. Jay Sung, submitted by Rep. Smith.....    75
Written statement from Mr. Michael Fallon, submitted by Rep. 
  Smith..........................................................    77

                        Questions for the Record

Questions submitted to Robert Koepcke, from Rep. Smith...........    81
Questions submitted to Michelle Bernier-Toth from Rep. Smith.....    82
Questions submitted to Jeffery Morehouse from Rep. McCormick.....    85
Questions submitted to Melissa A. Kucinski from Rep. McCormick...    89
Questions submitted to Michelle Bernier-Toth from Rep. McCormick.    94

 
     THE GOLDMAN ACT TURNS 10: HOLDING HAGUE CONVENTION VIOLATORS 
        ACCOUNTABLE AND BRINGING ABDUCTED AMERICAN CHILDREN HOME

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                      Tuesday, September 10, 2024

                  House of Representatives,
Subcommittee on Global Health, Global Human Rights, 
                   and International Organizations,
                              Committee on Foreign Affairs,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:17 p.m., in 
room 2172, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Christopher H. 
Smith (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

        OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER SMITH

    Mr. Smith. The subcommittee will come to order. I welcome 
each and every one of you to this hearing this afternoon.
    The last month, as I think many of you know, marked the 
10th anniversary of the passage of the Sean and David Goldman 
International Child Abduction Prevention and Return Act. That 
legislation took 5 years to get enacted into law and was based 
on the tenacious efforts of David Goldman to get his son back 
from Brazil. He did it with great class and strength and has 
been an inspiration to so many of us and also an inspiration 
for the law itself.
    And so many others, many of whom are here today, have 
played an outsized role in trying to ensure its effective 
implementation over the last 10 years. And so I want to thank 
all of them for being here today because it certainly does make 
a difference.
    We do know that the heartbreaking reality is that hundreds 
of American children are still abducted each and every year, 
illegally kidnapped by one of their parents to a foreign land. 
They are subject to what is child abuse with devastating 
psychological and even physical consequences for them and their 
families who have been left behind. We all know it is called 
parental alienation, but the term doesn't even begin to suggest 
the devastation that that child and the family and the left-
behind parent do experience.
    Although the number of abducted children and cases have 
gone down, the rate of return actually has worsened. Fewer 
children are abducted; that is a good-news story. But fewer of 
those abducted children actually come home. The questions that 
remain are what is the U.S. Government doing to prevent 
international child parental child abduction, to hold Hague 
Convention violators accountable, and to bring American 
abducted children home?
    Today, we will hear from the U.S. Department of State 
officials responsible for implementing the Goldman Act, family 
law attorneys and Hague Convention experts, and a parent and a 
child who have personally experienced the heartbreaking pain of 
separation and abduction.
    The Goldman Act empowers the State Department to use the 
full range of diplomatic tools prescribed in the law to seek 
the return of abducted American children from a demarche or 
public condemnation to delay or cancellation of bilateral 
visits or an extradition request. Annual appropriations 
language also authorizes the Department to withhold bilateral 
assistance funds to the governments of countries that are not 
taking the appropriate steps to comply on child abduction 
issues.
    The State Department could do better. No matter who is in 
the White House, there seems to be, at times, a lag. It needs 
to use the tool, especially the sanctioning tool, which has 
been given to them, to you. Only once has that gone beyond a 
demarche. And I say that because I have offered other laws, 
including our law dealing with human trafficking, and even 
there, while we have a prescriptive list of very, very serious 
sanctions, we threaten and we don't do it. So, after a while, 
countries that are out of compliance take note of that, and 
they say, ``Well, it is more rhetorical, an embarrassment, 
rather than any kind of tangible impact.''
    So I admonish you, ask you, plead with you, to use those 
tools, those sanctions, obviously in a judicious way, which I 
know you can do, to hold these countries to account.
    The Hague Convention enforcement within the United States 
and some 80 foreign countries says that countries must 
expeditiously return abducted children ``wrongfully removed in 
violation of the left-behind parents' custody rights to their 
State of habitual residence.''
    The State Department's annual report named 16 foreign 
nations as having ``demonstrated a pattern of noncompliance'' 
in 2023, Argentina, Belize, Brazil, Bulgaria, Ecuador, Egypt, 
Honduras, India, Jordan, Republic of Korea, Montenegro, Peru, 
Poland, Romania, Russia, and the United Arab Emirates. Six 
countries--Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, India, and Jordan and 
Peru--have not been complicit 10 years in a row. What a 
horrific record that is.
    Recent annual reports have removed Japan from the list of 
noncompliant countries. I do think that is a mistake. And Japan 
has made some legitimate progress, no doubt, in recent years 
passing legislation to strengthen enforcement of court-ordered 
returns. Just this spring, the Japanese Diet passed a law 
allowing for dual custody. And we've been pushing for that for 
10 years. When we first started this effort, I was shocked to 
learn that that is something that was not on their books of law 
and jurisprudence, and now it is.
    Yet in other ways, Japan must improve its disturbing track 
record. More than 500 children have been abducted to Japan 
since 1994. When Japan acceded to the Hague Convention in 2014, 
there were still more than 50 open pre-Hague cases of abduction 
to Japan. Today, all but four of those cases have been resolved 
or closed. What happened to the children? How many pre-Hague 
cases of parental child abduction were resolved, actually 
resolved, in a just and satisfactory way with the child's 
return to his or her left-behind family?
    It is very unclear. Indeed, it appears that most of these 
children simply aged out of the system. When a child turns 16, 
Hague Convention protocols and State Department reporting 
ceases to apply. In addition, left-behind parents report 
extreme difficulty in obtaining rights of access, especially in 
pre-Hague cases.
    What is the State Department doing to convey to foreign 
governments the importance of fulfilling their Hague 
obligations under international law? Are we trying to sign 
bilateral MOUs with non-Hague countries and with Hague 
countries that still have open abduction cases that precede 
that country's accession to the treaty?
    Another question I intend to raise deals with the limited 
exception to the Hague Convention's rule of expeditious return. 
The eighth meeting of the Special Commission of the Hague 
Convention has stated that ``While the exceptions derive from 
the consideration of the interests of the child, they do not 
turn the return proceedings into custody proceedings.'' Yet in 
some countries, untrained or unwilling judges relitigate 
custody rulings instead of strictly applying the Hague 
Convention.
    What has the Department, with respect and if you could 
answer this, done to address that problem? I am eager to hear 
from our very distinguished witnesses today, beginning with 
Robert Koepcke--Koepcke? I told you I would get it wrong--
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Japan, Korea, and Mongolia, and 
Michelle Brenier-Toth, Special Advisor for Children's Issues.
    According to the annual report, finally, in 2023, there 
were 721 open active abduction cases involving 982 children, as 
well as 69 open access cases involving 92 children. Only 205 
abducted children out of the 982 were returned to the U.S. So 
we have to do better. Hundreds of cases tragically remain open, 
and a further 227 inquiries are made by families that did not 
complete their Hague application or provide related 
documentation, indicating that the true number of child 
abductions from the U.S. is likely far higher than we think.
    These children, of course, are gifts. They are precious not 
only to their families but also to our country, to the United 
States. And most children desire a relationship with both 
parents. They don't want to be forced to pick between them, 
which is exactly what an abducting parent does. These children 
have the potential to be a bridge, even, for friendship between 
the two countries. They serve as bonds and symbols of trust and 
friendship to both their countries of origin.
    So I would urge you--I have introduced a new bill called 
the Sean and David Goldman Child Act Amendments. It strengthens 
key aspects of the Goldman Act by requiring this aggregated 
data and increased transparency from the State Department in 
raising the age of the child from 16 to 18 and funding research 
into the lifelong trauma that studies and testimoneys suggest 
is caused by international parental child abduction.
    During our second panel, we will hear testimoneys from 
left-behind parents, one who founded one of the leading U.S. 
advocacy groups on this issue, a child survivor of 
international parental child abduction, and a family law Hague 
Convention expert to discuss the ongoing challenges. So I look 
forward to their very, very important testimony.
    Jeffery Morehouse, I would just point out thank you for 
being here, for being absolutely tenacious on behalf of your 
child. We have met maybe 50 times. You have testified before in 
a very, very civil and strong way. I wish Japan would take note 
of your appeal. It is so well-founded in justice and good law. 
But to date, they have not. So we make that request again to 
the Japanese Government.
    I would like to now yield to my good friend, Ms. Wild, for 
any opening.

         OPENING STATEMENT OF RANKING MEMBER SUSAN WILD

    Ms. Wild. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And thank you to all of our witnesses and to the audience 
participants for appearing here today.
    When I first ran for office, I would often say to people 
that I was getting in this for my children and staying in it 
for yours. And as Members of Congress, and as public officials 
more broadly, I believe that we have a particular and special 
duty to do right by children and the most vulnerable members of 
our society.
    As a parent, the idea of being separated from my children 
when they were young would have been unimaginable. Heck, I 
could hardly deal with a workday's separation. And I don't mean 
to make light of it. I just can't even imagine extended 
separation from one's child. To all of those who have had to 
endure this unthinkable hardship, including the courageous 
advocates in this room, please know that we stand with you.
    I want to take a moment to recognize multiple constituents 
of mine whose children have been abducted to Egypt. While the 
circumstances differ across each case, they all highlight what 
I believe to be a lack of sufficient coordination between the 
State Department, the Department of Justice, and local and 
State law enforcement. I hope we can address the need for 
greater coordination during this hearing and that those of us 
in Congress, Republicans and Democrats alike, can work together 
to push for solutions.
    Advocating for children, including international parental 
child abduction cases, must be a cornerstone of our foreign 
policy. These cases are sensitive, complex, and difficult. 
Parents, legal guardians, and other American relatives depend 
on missions abroad to raise these cases with foreign government 
officials at the absolute highest appropriate levels and to 
ensure that the foreign government understands that the U.S. 
Government's concern for the welfare of its citizens overseas, 
particularly children, is paramount.
    Pursuant to the Goldman Act, the State Department continues 
to improve strategies for U.S. Government engagement with 
numerous countries on international parental child abduction. 
As Members of Congress, we must continue to ensure that we are 
providing a whole-of-government approach to combat and resolve 
abductions and that we are employing strategies that are 
tailor-made to be effective within the political, cultural, and 
institutional conditions of any given country.
    Civil society advocates, legal professionals, and other 
stakeholders play a key role in advising and informing Members 
of Congress and our diplomatic corps on the complexities of 
these cases. We must continue to strengthen cooperation to 
ensure countries that are in noncompliance with the Hague 
Convention are not only aware of these issues but act to change 
their laws to be in compliance with the convention. If 
countries refuse to do that, if they refuse to improve their 
laws in accordance with international standards, including as 
stipulated by the Goldman Act, then we have a duty to hold them 
accountable.
    I will always stand ready to work with anyone of either 
party on behalf of these children and their families both here 
at home and across the globe.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you very much for your very fine statement 
and your leadership on this issue.
    I would like to now recognize Mr. Keating.

      OPENING STATEMENT OF REPRESENTATIVE WILLIAM KEATING

    Mr. Keating. Thank you, Chair Smith and Ranking Member 
Wild, for holding this important hearing today.
    The issue of international child abduction demands our 
utmost attention, and hearings like this help bring the 
important light to bear to the Hague Convention violators and 
the victims of this horrific crime. Today, I would like to 
speak briefly on behalf of my constituent Michael Fallon, whose 
son was abducted from the United States last year to the 
Republic of Korea.
    For more than a year, Mike has been working tirelessly to 
secure the unlawful return of his son, who continues to be held 
unlawfully by his mother and her family. He secured favorable 
decisions from the courts in Massachusetts, and most recently, 
the Hague Convention Court in Korea ruled in his favor as well. 
While his case is still going through the legal process, the 
Republic of Korea has an obligation to expeditiously conclude 
the legal proceedings and will hopefully do so.
    With Mike's case in mind, in March, I wrote the Korean 
ambassador to the United States regarding Korea's multi-year 
noncompliance with the Hague Convention. Specifically, Korea 
remains unable to effectively enforce Hague Convention rulings, 
which are significant steps toward ensuring the safe return of 
abducted children.
    I believe this hearing helps make clear to the Korean 
authorities that the United States will do all it can in 
compliance with its Hague Convention obligations to ensure the 
safe return of all children. The Republic of Korea must do the 
same, and I am hopeful that the Korean Government will take the 
necessary steps to ensure their full compliance and 
significantly update their enforcement procedures.
    I want to thank Chair Smith and Ranking Member Wild again, 
as well as all our witnesses, for being here today. Your 
continued engagement with partner governments and 
communications with families and victims impacted by this 
devastating event has never been more important than it is 
today.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you.
    Ms. Manning? Oh. Okay. Thank you.
    I would like to now introduce our two witnesses and again 
thank them for being here and for their leadership, beginning 
with Robert Koepcke, who is the senior Foreign Service member 
in the U.S. Department of State, currently as Deputy Assistant 
Secretary for Korea, Japan, Mongolia in the Bureau of East 
Asian and Pacific Affairs.
    Previously, he served as Director of the Office of Mainland 
Southeast Asia, as well as the Director of the Executive 
Secretariat Staff in the Office of Secretary of State. He 
served as the U.S. Consul General in Okinawa, Japan, during 
2018 to 2021. As a Special Assistant to the Undersecretary for 
Economic Growth, Energy, and Environment, Robert developed an 
economic pillar of the Department's quadrennial Joint Strategic 
Plan 2007 to 2022, before which he was Deputy Economic Section 
Chief at the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, Germany.
    Robert was detailed to the National Security Council during 
2012 to 2013, where he was Director for Japan and Asia Regional 
Affairs. As Deputy Director of the Office of Economic Policy, 
or EAP, he played essential role in the U.S. host year of APEC 
2011. He served overseas tours in Beijing, Baghdad, Tokyo, and 
the American Institute in Taiwan, Taipei.
    He holds a master's degree from the London School of 
Economics and a bachelor's from Boston University. He enjoys 
introducing American culture through his love of playing and 
appreciating jazz music. He is married with two children and 
speaks Mandarin, Japanese, German, and Spanish. English will be 
preferred today, by the way.
    We will then hear from Ms. Michelle Bernier-Toth, who 
joined the State Department in 1987, served consular positions 
in Damascus, Syria; Doha, Qatar; and Abu Dhabi, UAE. She also 
served in the Foreign Service positions in Bureaus of Near East 
Affairs and Consular Affairs, as well as the Foreign Service 
Institute, before converting to civil service in 1903.
    As a civil service officer, Michelle was the Deputy 
Director in the Office of Children's Issues, as Director of the 
Office of American Citizen Services and Crisis Management, and 
as Managing Director of the Overseas Citizens Services.
    In December 2019, she was named as the Special Advisor for 
Children's Issues in the Bureau of Consular Affairs. She 
graduated from Yale University in 1982 with a bachelor's of art 
in Near Eastern languages and literature, and has a master's in 
Arab studies from Georgetown University. She has three adult 
children of whom she is very, very proud.
    I would like to now yield to you, Robert.

                   STATEMENT OF ROBERT KOEPCKE

    Mr. Koepcke. Chairman Smith, Ranking Member Wild, and 
distinguished members of the subcommittee, thank you for the 
opportunity to speak today about the Department's efforts on 
international parental child abduction as it relates to Japan 
and the Republic of Korea. I appreciate the work you've done 
over many years to reunite families, and I truly appreciate the 
efforts of the many parents in the audience today to advocate 
for this issue on a global scale.
    As Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of East Asian 
and Pacific Affairs, I am deeply committed to protecting U.S. 
citizens in Japan and the ROK and to promoting the interests of 
the American people in the Indo-Pacific region. I want to 
assure you that international parental child abduction is an 
important part of our broader foreign policy in the Bureau of 
East Asian and Pacific Affairs.
    Together with our consular colleagues, our bureau has 
pursued a strategy of persistent diplomatic efforts, legal 
collaboration, and public awareness to prevent future 
abductions and ensure the expeditious return of abducted 
children. We have consistently advocated on behalf of U.S. 
citizens in bilateral engagements, including on international 
parental child abduction cases, and will continue to do so at 
the highest levels. We are dedicated to bringing abducted 
children home and preventing future cases.
    Over the last 4 years, we have made progress in Japan and 
the Republic of Korea. After Japan ratified the Hague 
Convention in 2014, it lacked strong enforcement mechanisms. 
Intensive bilateral engagement convinced Japan to enact new 
legislation in 2020 that strengthened its ability to enforce 
convention court orders. Since 2021, Japan has successfully 
enforced returns of children in every U.S. Hague case in which 
the Japanese courts ordered one.
    With regard to pre-Hague cases in Japan, the State 
Department raises them regularly and at senior levels. In 2020, 
our governments undertook a comprehensive review of pre-Hague 
cases and committed to hold regular consultations on them. 
Almost half of the pre-Hague cases that resulted in the 
successful return or contact involved voluntary agreements 
reached through mediation and open dialog. So we have 
emphasized the importance of mediation as well as prevention.
    Most recently, Japan's Diet revised its civil code on May 
17 to allow divorced parents the option of joint parental 
authority. This will take effect in 2026 and aligns Japan with 
most countries around the world. We will closely track the 
precedents set by Japanese judges and how it will affect left-
behind parents on pre-Hague cases. We have also begun another 
comprehensive review of pre-Hague cases to show our commitment 
to successful returns.
    With regard to the Republic of Korea, we cited them as 
noncompliant in 2022, 2023, and 2024 for failure to enforce 
return orders. Under the Korean legal system, international 
parental child abduction cases are not criminal cases but civil 
cases. The enforcement officers, who are called bailiffs, are 
semi-independent entities and not subject to direct orders from 
the Korean Supreme Court or the Korean Central Authority. 
Enforcement is reliant on these bailiffs, who have a great deal 
of autonomy in their decisionmaking and do not answer directly 
to judges as court officers do in the United States.
    U.S. officials in Washington and Seoul have persistently 
raised these enforcement issues at the highest levels. As a 
result of our advocacy, the ROK established an international 
task force in June 2023. The Supreme Court of Korea 
subsequently implemented new guidance in April 2024 aimed at 
aligning bailiffs with their Hague enforcement 
responsibilities. Since then, the ROK has enforced two court-
ordered returns, including one that was pending for multiple 
years.
    Even with this new guidance, we continue to have frank 
discussions with the Korean Central Authority and the ROK 
Government to ensure bailiffs receive appropriate training to 
address the independence that bailiffs have under the Korean 
legal system and to grant the police more tools to locate an 
abducted child.
    In conclusion, we have made significant strides in our 
bilateral efforts with both Japan and the ROK, but there is 
still more work to be done. Addressing international parental 
child abduction requires a concerted effort of all 
stakeholders, including governments, legal authorities, and 
civil society. We are committed to leading these efforts and 
ensuring that every child is returned home safely and swiftly.
    I look forward to working with this esteemed committee, 
anti-international parental child abduction advocates, and our 
international partners to uphold the rights and well-being of 
children around the world. Thank you for the opportunity to 
testify today, and I am prepared to answer any questions you 
may have.
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    Mr. Smith. Thank you so very much for your testimony.
    I would like to now recognize Ms. Bernier-Toth for her 
testimony.


               STATEMENT OF MICHELLE BERNIER-TOTH

    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Chairman Smith, Ranking Member Wild, 
distinguished members of the subcommittee, thank you, as well, 
for the invitation to speak about our work on an important 
issue that is important to all of us, that of international 
parental child abductions. I have submitted a written statement 
to the subcommittee, which I ask to be included in the record.
    Mr. Smith. Without objection, so ordered.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you.
    International parental child abduction hurts children. It 
hurts the left-behind parents. It hurts extended families, 
friends, communities. We know this from the lived experience of 
adults who were abducted as children. We know this from the 
parents, the grandparents, and the families of abducted 
children who face what often feel like insurmountable 
challenges in trying to protect their children.
    That is why I take my responsibilities as Special Advisor 
for Children's Issues so seriously. As an advocate for 
vulnerable children, I join my colleagues in seeking to resolve 
individual cases of international parental child abduction and 
to promote the 1980 Hague Abduction Convention efficient 
operation as an important framework for resolving and 
preventing international parental child abduction.
    In the past year, my colleagues in the Office of Children's 
Issues and I have traveled extensively to raise awareness of 
this issue and promote more effective responses by treaty and 
non-treaty partners. Since appearing before you last May, I 
have traveled to Lebanon, Jordan, Belize, India, Peru, 
Argentina, and most recently, Honduras.
    In Lebanon, I participated in a conference on international 
parental child abductions that included government officials, 
attorneys and judges, social workers, non-governmental 
organization representatives, and foreign embassy officers, and 
which has led to followup meetings and dialog among 
stakeholders.
    In India, I met with judges, attorneys, and Indian 
officials in the lead-up to our annual consular dialog. In 
Argentina, I pressed senior officials in the Foreign Ministry, 
civil society leaders, and leadership within the Argentine 
Congress on the need for Argentina to expedite the resolution 
of Hague abduction cases. I have met virtually and in person 
with key officials from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the UAE.
    In October 2023, I led the U.S. delegation to the eighth 
Special Commission meeting on the 1980 Hague Abduction 
Convention. A key topic of discussion at the Special Commission 
was the delay in resolving cases in many countries due to the 
factors we identify in our annual report to Congress: problems 
locating children, administrative delays and central 
authorities, slow or drawn-out judicial processes, or problems 
enforcing return orders. These are some of the issues that we 
raise when we meet with foreign officials.
    We have seen some progress on key fronts. In April of this 
year, the Korean Supreme Court did issue the guidance to give 
law enforcement officers more authority to carry out return 
orders. My colleague from the East Asia Pacific Bureau has 
talked about that.
    We have started regular meetings with the Indian Government 
officials to discuss issues of mutual concern, including 
international parental child abduction and to encourage 
cooperation on resolving existing cases and preventing new 
ones.
    The Sean and David Goldman Act called on us to do more with 
our military colleagues. In the past year, the Office of 
Children's Issues has conducted outreach to and training for 
military attorneys and community officers, who are often the 
first to recognize when a military family is struggling and an 
abduction is possible.
    The act also called for regular interagency meetings to 
coordinate preventive efforts. In the past year, we have held 
two such meetings, which foster even closer collaboration 
between interagency partners.
    The Prevent Abduction program carried out with the 
Department of Homeland Security is one of the few and best ways 
we have to stop children from being abducted from the United 
States. In the past year, our prevention branch has spoken to 
thousands of concerned parents, attorneys, and courts to assist 
them with preventing a child being removed overseas, sometimes 
with just hours to act.
    We continue to build on our successes and our work across 
the interagency to establish a robust and comprehensive 
prevention program that is flexible and responsive. We know 
that any forward progress is still too slow for the children 
and parents affected by international parental child abduction. 
Every day matters, and too many cases stretch out for years. I 
stress this point in my meetings with foreign officials to 
emphasize the human cost of delays that could have been 
prevented.
    I applaud the efforts of left-behind parents to raise 
awareness of the pain they and their children suffer when their 
child is abducted. Our annual report to Congress under the Sean 
and David Goldman Act is part of a year-round activity that 
includes the development of country-specific action plans, 
collection and assessment of data, consultations with 
colleagues across the Department, and ultimately preparation of 
the report itself before the cycle repeats.
    Following a release of the report, we ask our embassies in 
those countries that have been cited for demonstrating a 
pattern of noncompliance to notify their host governments, 
explain the basis for the citation, and press for systemic 
change. I often follow that meeting with senior diplomats in 
Washington and always emphasize that this is an issue Congress 
cares about.
    I hope that as Members of Congress travel and interact with 
foreign government counterparts, they make the same points. It 
is important that we work together on behalf of children and 
families. They are our shared constituents.
    Thank you again for all you do on behalf of these 
vulnerable children and for your support for our efforts. I 
look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Bernier-Toth follows:]
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    Mr. Smith. Thank you so very much for your leadership. And 
just a couple of questions to start off with.
    When the Prime Minister of Japan was visiting and obviously 
was so well received by the Congress and by the President, when 
he had his after-speech meeting over in the Rayburn room, I 
gave him a letter--talked to him briefly, but gave him a letter 
on behalf of the left-behind parents in Japan, those who were 
left out when the Hague was signed and ratified.
    My concern has always been, and it was, as--what a cruelty 
to those families to say, ``Now we are going to get it right, 
or at least get on the path to getting it right,'' but 
meanwhile, all of these other families, like Jeffrey, who is 
here, Paul Toland, and so many others, are just left out, not 
being able to see their children and certainly not having the 
reunification that is warranted by the law and by, really, 
universal justice.
    I gave them the letter. I'm going to put the letter in the 
record. I will give you a copy again. We still haven't heard 
back. And it is troubling in the extreme, with all the 
diplomatic niceties that he was afforded--and he was very well 
received, and I deeply respect him as well--that when a very 
serious set of issues are raised about very real people who are 
being treated so cruelly, I mean, it just--they rejoiced when 
the Hague was signed into law, but it was a very bitter 
rejoicing because they knew they were left out, grandfathered 
out rather than in.
    So I would ask you, if you could, with the Prime Minister, 
with the Japanese Government, to reiterate an effort, reignite 
that effort to get these children home. It baffles my mind. 
Justice delayed is justice denied. There is no statute of 
limitations on justice, and certainly, this injustice and the 
cruelty of it is just mind-boggling.
    As my ranking member said, she has no idea how she would 
handle it. I have no idea how I would handle it, as a father of 
four and grandfather of eight, if such a thing were to happen. 
It was just--it is mind-boggling not knowing--even when the 
nuclear problem occurs, many of our left-behind families were 
trying to find out, was their child in any way injured or put 
at risk during that crisis? And it was crickets, nothing. And I 
just find it appalling.
    So I would put this letter in the record, but I would like 
to convey to you a copy again and see if you could at least get 
an answer. My hope--the answer will be, ``Hey, let's just do 
this. I care about the abductions that have occurred big time. 
I was on Congressman Honda's bill of the abductions that were 
going to North Korea.''
    Well, abductions is a two-way street. We don't want any 
abductions. And so I appeal to you to take that back. I do hope 
you can put even more benign pressure on that government to do 
more now with these cases. They can't be forgotten anymore.
    Second, I wanted to ask you with regards to the demarche--
and we have had demarches, and when I wrote the law, I 
patterned it after both the International Religious Freedom Act 
and the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000. The idea 
was that you have a very real sanction, like a sword of 
Damocles hanging over a country for noncompliance. But we know 
that when it is not used, the country and the bureaucrats in 
each respective country say, ``We can weather a little 
criticism, but there is nothing that is going to follow.''
    When I was fighting for David Goldman so very, very hard, 
one of the things that I raised on my many trips was that we 
are going to look economically to taking away GSP, which you 
know you need very badly in Brazil. And we were serious about 
denying them the continuance of Generalized System of 
Preferences for their products. All of a sudden, they are all 
ayes. ``Okay. What do we gotta do?'' Please. You have got 
economic pressure and other pressure just staring us in the 
face. It is why we wrote it into the law. Ten years later, blow 
off the dust.
    And I appeal to you again to start demarching--no. Start 
sanctioning countries, and we will see results across the board 
because they will say, ``Oh, the Americans mean business now. 
They are not bluffing.'' And I do think, despite--when you are 
interlocutors, you probably talk to a lot of very good people 
who care deeply. But they are not making the decision, 
necessarily, in country X, Y, or Z. Somebody else is just 
saying, ``Just talk. Reduce us on things.'' But again, some of 
these left-behind parents that go on for decades, they need a 
resolution.
    So I would ask you, if you could, will you be looking to 
use the sanctions prescribed in the law going forward?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you, Congressman Smith.
    Mr. Smith. Yes.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Each year, the Office of Children's 
Issues--the country officers, the branch chiefs, the Division 
Chief--me--sit down with our colleagues from the regional 
bureaus, with our colleagues at embassies and consulates 
abroad, and we review the list of tools in the Goldman Act to 
see which ones are going to be effective in trying to address 
some of the challenges we've seen in individual countries.
    I can assure you that we look at the entire list and then 
beyond that, because in addition to what is in the law, we have 
other tools at our disposal, not just diplomatic tools, but 
training and things that raise awareness of the importance of 
implementing the Hague Convention or finding solutions to 
individual cases of international parental child abduction. So 
we do look at the entire list each and every year.
    Mr. Smith. But I would ask and I would appeal to you--you 
have got a very serious sanction--sanctions--that you could 
impose. And I believe with all my heart, soul, and my--you 
know, not only was I inspired by the trafficking law, which I 
wrote, but that was inspired by our civil rights law. Without 
sanctions capability, the schools wouldn't have complied the 
way they do and have to.
    Sanctions do grab the attention. And you have countries 
like Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, India, Jordan, and Peru 
noncompliant every year since 2015. I mean, I met with Modi 
personally on behalf of a case out in New Jersey. A young woman 
who had her two children abducted was treated like trash by her 
now separated husband. He stole from her. The police had 
reports showing that he was a thief in addition to being an 
abductor.
    She went over there, and nothing. No help. She was even at 
risk of court action for trying to see her children. And she 
has testified here a few times as well. You couldn't find a 
nicer, more civil, more loving mother who has been absolutely 
cruelly denied her children. And I brought her to meet with 
Modi and appealed to him, and nothing happened there either. 
After a while, you say these jobs are worthless if you're not 
willing to help people who are at risk and vulnerable.
    And so India, I mean, one of our great trading partners, 
allies--we need to do more there as well.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you. And I would agree that India 
is definitely on one of my--top of my list of countries that I 
have been working on over the past year.
    Mr. Smith. Great. And I have asked before. I will ask one 
more time, then yield to my friend, Ms. Wild. Have we tried an 
MOU with India?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. We have raised that, but there has been 
no interest on the side of the Indian Government. I think I 
would note, though, that memorandum of understandings can be 
helpful in certain instances. For example, we have one that is 
more operational with Saudi Arabia, which commits both of us to 
meet on a regular basis to discuss issues. That has been 
carried out, and that goes on.
    Other MOUs which have stressed the importance of 
facilitating parental access to their children, even as the 
parents seek the return of their child--I would say that is a 
hit or miss in terms of how we have been able to really use 
those effectively with the countries involved.
    So we have to look at it, but we do hold it out as 
something we will consider.
    Mr. Smith. I would just say--Mr. Koepcke, you might want to 
answer this as well. We sanction India; we will get their 
attention. I know there will be other people in the Department, 
there will be bureau heads, that will say, ``Oh, don't mess up 
the relationship.'' Friends don't let friends commit human 
rights abuses, and these are against American children and 
American parents.
    And with impunity, they are telling us to go take a long 
walk on a short pier. They don't care. And having had these 
conversations with people directly, including Modi, he needs to 
step up, as does his government, the government. So please use 
the sanctions. You sanction; you will get results. I guarantee 
it.
    Mr. Koepcke. Yes. Thank you for that, Chairman. The process 
that Michelle described in terms of working together with the 
regional bureaus and the Bureau of Consular Affairs is 
something that we engage in on an annual basis, and we will 
continue to do so to make sure we are using the tools that are 
going to be the most effective for getting progress on this 
important set of issues.
    For both Japan and Korea, these issues--they are different 
circumstances, but they remain an important part of our 
bilateral agenda with both countries. We have been raising it 
at senior levels and kind of all the way up and down our 
system, and we will continue to do so.
    I have had recent active conversations with my own 
counterpart in Japan on this topic, and you mentioned the 
letter to the Prime Minister and not receiving a response. I 
will followup on that with him because, as I said, we are 
actively discussing this issue as we continue to see progress.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you.
    Ms. Wild?
    Ms. Wild. Okay. Ms. Bernier-Toth, as I mentioned in my 
remarks, I have constituents whose children have been abducted 
to Egypt by one of the parents over the past several years. I 
know that Egypt is not a signatory to the Hague Abduction 
Convention, and that obviously is a significant factor.
    And I know that you have worked aggressively to press your 
Egyptian counterparts on this issue, and I would just encourage 
you to please continue to do that. And please let us know, 
either my office or this subcommittee, of anything else that 
you think we can do here in Congress to help you in that 
effort.
    One of the problems that we have seen in the cases from my 
district and cases across the country is the reluctance of U.S. 
attorneys to move forward with charges against the abducting 
parent because a court order was not in place at the time the 
children were abducted, which is problematic, of course, 
because an abduction could very well be planned before there is 
even any known friction, legal experience going on, or anything 
else.
    And I understand the position of the DOJ and U.S. 
attorneys, but I also think that that has really hindered some 
of our progress in this area. And it obviously hinders our 
ability to press the foreign governments that are in question. 
And for that matter, it prevents us from being able to ensure 
that the parent, the abducting parent, is stopped when they 
travel elsewhere to third countries or potentially even back 
here to the United States.
    So I am not going to ask you to make comment on the 
decisions within DOJ, but I would like to ask you how a more 
proactive and perhaps supportive approach by DOJ might provide 
the State Department with some additional authority. And I am 
talking about DOJ and law enforcement generally. And do you see 
areas where coordination between State, DOJ, and law 
enforcement could be strengthened?
    I think, personally, there is always room for more 
coordination and cooperation no matter what the issue is. I am 
all about cooperation. I think one of the things we see is 
that, often, local law enforcement is not aware that there is 
no waiting period, if a child is reported missing, that they 
can enter that child's name into the----
    (Simultaneous speaking.)
    Ms. Wild. And when you say local, you mean local as in 
city, state----
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. City, State, local. Yes.
    Ms. Wild. Okay.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. And so that is an area where I think 
greater awareness is needed. We work with the law enforcement 
authorities on our prevention working group. We have 
representation there. But again, there is always more that we 
could do. I totally agree.
    Ms. Wild. Thank you.
    Do you have any comment on that, sir, about the question I 
just asked about coordination between State and DOJ and local 
law enforcement and what could be done to improve it?
    Mr. Koepcke. I don't, no. I will just note that, in that 
regard, our consular sections in both our embassies in Seoul 
and Tokyo work on these issues very closely in coordination 
with the Bureau of Consular Affairs. And that is where that 
kind of connective piece would play out.
    Ms. Wild. And so, moving on to the challenges with South 
Korea, Mr. Koepcke, the Republic of Korea was named in the 2024 
International Child Abduction Report as noncompliant with the 
Hague Convention despite it being enforced between the United 
States and Korea since 2013.
    A State Department report to Congress noted that ROK, 
Republic of Korea, law enforcement authorities regularly failed 
to enforce return orders and abduction cases. As a result of 
this failure, 29 percent of requests for the return of abducted 
children underremained unresolved for more than 12 months.
    Do you have any update on Korea's response to the report 
thus far and what kind of commitments, if any, have been made 
to address those findings? And again, that was a report of 
2024, just this year. So I wouldn't necessarily have read of 
any improvements in the response, but perhaps you know of some.
    Mr. Koepcke. Yes. Thank you for that question. I think it 
is a part of the agenda when we are speaking with Korean 
counterparts, Korean Government counterparts, on this. As I 
mentioned, our post is very much engaged on this.
    We have outreached to the Korean Government seeking 
progress in light of the noncompliance finding, and 
consistently, including from senior officials, including from 
our technical experts in our consular section as well. I will 
continue to work with them on that and make sure that they 
understand where we are coming from on this.
    As I mentioned in my opening remarks, there are challenges 
within the legal system. Those are challenges that we have 
worked with them on to try to find some solutions. And they did 
push out new guidelines to local authorities engaging on these 
things. It is not enough, but I think it is clear that we have 
the channels with the government that we need to have, that we 
can have these conversations and see progress. It clearly 
hasn't been enough, and we will continue to work on that.
    Ms. Wild. I appreciate that. One thought that I have, 
Chairman Smith--congressional delegations, known as CODELs, 
Members of Congress, travel frequently abroad, often to the 
countries that we are talking about today and other countries 
that are cited in the report on child abduction.
    And it seems to me that we have a duty, because we are 
often in a position when we are on those trips, to be in 
behind-closed-door meetings with the highest-level officials, 
often discussing issues that we care deeply about, sometimes 
uncomfortable issues. But I can tell you that I have never 
been--now, granted, I have never been on a CODEL to Japan or 
Korea, but I have never heard this issue raised.
    And it seems to me that one of the things that we might 
want to talk about, Chairman Smith, is that every CODEL that is 
leaving from Washington to go to a foreign country should be 
educated and advised by our subcommittee or someone else on the 
instances of child abduction, the lack of any response from 
that country, and that members of the CODEL should be 
absolutely encouraged to raise this over and over again 
because, as I said, we often are raising difficult, delicate 
issues with countries that are our allies, but there are some 
issues that we care deeply about. But it seems to me that this 
one is--absolutely should be front and center. So thank you.
    With that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you very much.
    I would like to now yield to Ms. Radewagen. And thank you 
for your leadership.
    Ms. Radewagen. Mr. Koepcke, Mr. Michael Fallon is another 
left-behind American parent whose son was abducted to South 
Korea last summer. While Korean courts have ruled in his favor, 
the taking parent has hidden his son and has slowed down 
judicial proceedings through multiple appeals.
    What has the Department done and what is it doing today to 
bring Mr. Fallon's son home? And have you raised his case in 
engagements with Republic of Korea counterparts?
    Mr. Koepcke. Thank you for that question. I think I am 
going to turn to my Consular Affairs colleague for more 
details. It is my understanding we don't typically get into 
specific cases. There are privacy considerations and other 
considerations.
    But what I can say is that all of the cases that come to 
our attention are brought through our Consular Affairs Bureau 
to our consular section at our embassy in Seoul. So they are 
tracking these and will continue to work on them. And then, as 
we do, as I described, the broader legal framework at work and 
some of the reforms that have to happen there, including 
possibly legal remedies, are something that we are continuing 
to engage with them on regularly.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. I would just add that this and other 
cases involving the importance of enforcing the return order 
are of a high priority to our--not just to our team in Seoul, 
but to the Office of Children's Issues and, of course, the East 
Asia Pacific Bureau. This is an issue that we have raised 
regularly with the Government of Korea.
    I would also note that the Government of Korea has 
definitely taken note of our annual report. I spoke with them 
soon after it was released because they had questions about 
that. So the report itself is a useful tool.
    Ms. Radewagen. Ms. Bernier-Toth, the eighth meeting of the 
Special Commission on the Hague Convention also stated that 
while the exceptions derive from a consideration of the 
interests of the child, they do not turn the return proceedings 
into custody proceedings.
    Has the Department observed instances of foreign courts 
relitigating custody issues instead of strictly making the 
Hague Convention ruling? If so, where, and what has been done 
to address this problem?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you for that question. That is much 
of what I do. We often see situations where a family law judge 
is unfamiliar with their roles and responsibilities under the 
Hague Convention and, unless advised otherwise, treats the case 
as a custody case and relitigates those custody issues, which 
is not appropriate.
    And so we have emphasized the importance of judicial 
training and raising awareness among local judges in many 
countries of their roles and responsibilities under the 
convention. And we have worked in countries such as, for 
example, Brazil and Argentina, where I was engaged in this, to 
work with their Hague network judges to make sure that they are 
reaching out and they are providing guidance to their 
counterparts across the country so that they are better 
informed.
    We have also supported and participated in judicial 
training for foreign judges overseas to make sure that they 
know what their responsibilities are. It is a really important 
part of what we are doing. It is not just do they understand 
the actual role and responsibility, but are they acting 
expeditiously? Is the legal system treating these cases with 
priority so that they are moved to the top of the queue and so 
that the child can be returned promptly?
    Ms. Radewagen. I am not sure what the time is. Clock 
doesn't seem to be working. But I yield back the balance of my 
time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you very much.
    Ms. Manning?
    Ms. Manning. It can be very dangerous if the clocks are not 
working.
    Thank you, Chairman Smith and Ranking Member Wild, for 
bringing this important hearing. And I want to thank our 
witnesses for your service.
    Many years ago, I had a law partner who was able to use the 
Hague Convention to get an abducted child back home, returned 
to this country, for her client. So I know the process can work 
when dealing with a compliant country to resolve this kind of a 
tragic situation. But sadly, not all cases work out that way.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth, can you share more about what happens 
when State is made aware of a potential child abduction case, 
and are there things that we can do, we in Congress can do, to 
be helpful?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you for that. Typically, it starts 
when a parent or somebody on their behalf contacts the Office 
of Children's Issues to report that their child has been 
abducted to a Hague or a non-Hague country.
    The country officer in the Office of Children's Issues who 
is responsible for that particular country will talk to the 
parent and explain what their potential options are, whether it 
is a Hague Convention case, whether it's a criminal case, 
because it is up to the parent, ultimately, to decide what they 
choose to do. It is their child, and they are best placed to 
decide what their path is.
    Should they seek return of the child under the Hague, the 
Office of Children's Issues will facilitate and assist them in 
filing the application with the foreign central authority. They 
can also go directly to the foreign central authority, but that 
way we don't have as much visibility on the case.
    From then on, it is just tracking the case there, making 
sure that it is being handled as appropriately as it can be. In 
non-Hague cases, obviously, that is more complex because the 
options for the parent are more limited, and often, it is a 
very difficult process of navigating the local legal system in 
the foreign country. So I hope that answers your question.
    Ms. Manning. It does. And are there any commonalities among 
cases that are successful that you can share with us? And does 
congressional involvement at any particular level seem to be 
productive in resolving these cases?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. That is a very good question. I think 
what you see--as you noted, when it works, it works well 
because it creates that bridge between legal systems, and it 
looks at habitual residence and not other custody issues.
    And so we do have partners where the convention works. And 
I think, in that case, it then also serves as a preventive 
measure because if a parent knows that if they abducted their 
child, the child will be returned to the habitual residence, 
then they don't, hopefully, abduct their child in the first 
place.
    Congress plays an important role. I think this was 
mentioned before. As CODELs go out, it is really helpful for 
the host government to understand that this is an all-of-
government issue. This is something that Congress cares about, 
that the State Department cares about, that other agencies care 
about, because ultimately, it is about the children. And we 
have a responsibility to protect them.
    Ms. Manning. Well, I appreciate my colleague Representative 
Wild raising that issue because there are many of us who go on 
CODELs to Japan and to Korea. So, if those issues--I am glad to 
hear that Japan is doing better, but with regard to Korea, 
there are opportunities for us to raise those issues if we are 
continually made aware that there are problems in a particular 
country we are visiting.
    Do you find that there seems to be any kind of a cultural 
bias in returning, for example, a child to the father when the 
abducting parent has been the mother or vice versa? And if so, 
how can those cultural biases be overcome?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. So I would say that that is sort of 
country-specific and cultural-specific. Sometimes it is biases 
about returning a child to the father. Sometimes it is about 
returning the child to the mother. Again, our point when we 
work on these cases with the parent is that it is about the 
child.
    And we know, as Congressman Smith said, separating a child 
from one of the parents by the unilateral actions of another 
parent is very traumatizing for the child. And I think that is 
where we try to focus and make that point because, ultimately, 
it is not about culture; it is about the child and the child's 
welfare and best interests.
    Ms. Manning. So you mentioned, I think, during your remarks 
that there are sometimes indications that can be spotted of 
likely abduction with a military family. Can you talk a little 
bit about that and what can be done to be more aware of that 
situation?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. This is a major effort that we are 
undertaking, is to work, again, with the military officers, the 
community officers, to help them to raise their awareness of 
what some of the red flags might be so that they can try to 
prevent and counsel their clients against taking actions which, 
in the end, will only be detrimental to the child.
    So there is an outreach program. There is a training 
program. We send teams out a couple of times a year to 
countries where we have significant numbers of U.S. military. 
We have had some success. Not only have they gone to Korea and 
Japan and Italy, but when they have done that kind of training, 
they have actually then used virtual platforms to bring other 
bases and other officers from other countries in as well. So it 
is a really major effort on our part.
    Ms. Manning. Let me ask one final question because I also 
don't know whether my time has run out. But with regard to the 
2024 annual report and also the letter included in our 
materials from Secretary Blinken, it is clear that Poland and 
Montenegro have just been added to the list. Can you tell us 
what happened, and are there things we can do to be helpful 
with those two countries?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. I don't have the specifics on that in 
front of me, but I can tell you what happens is, as part of the 
annual review and the assessment of countries--this is a 
yearlong process. So we look at what is happening in that 
country. We evaluate the country's performance against the 
criteria laid out in the Goldman Act and make a decision as to 
whether we should cite them or not.
    This is something that is done in collaboration with our 
regional bureau with our embassy abroad. But again, it is based 
on the criteria that are laid out in the Goldman Act in terms 
of the numbers, in terms of the central authority operations, 
judicial processes, and things like that. Each country is going 
to be rated on those criteria.
    Ms. Manning. Thank you again for all your hard work. I know 
these are heartbreaking situations for families, and I am sure 
that the help you provide is very much appreciated.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Smith. Dr. McCormick.
    Mr. McCormick. Thank you, Mr. Chair. International parental 
child abduction. It is a terrible thing. Since 1994 over 30,000 
children have been abducted and taken abroad by one of their 
parents without the consent of the other.
    As a father, I can't fathom the terrible feeling of 
separation and heartbreak that those parents endure. I would 
feel if my children were abducted, I can only imagine what they 
are going through.
    I applaud the work of Chairman Smith and what he has done 
historically in passing the Goldman Act 10 years ago and his 
continued work to secure the child's future and to protect them 
from this grievous occurrence.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth, as you mention in your testimony, 
prevention is the best method of combating international 
parental child abduction. The Goldman Act created the 
children's passport issuance alert program to notify the 
concerned parent if someone attempts to get their child a 
passport without their knowledge.
    You also mentioned, just in this hearing as I have been 
listening, that this is about the child. How many single 
parents have brought children across the southern border in 
this last 4 years?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. I am sorry, sir. I don't have that 
number.
    Mr. McCormick. I would say it is tens of thousands, just 
based on a thumbnail approach. How many of them had passports? 
You probably don't know.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. I don't know.
    Mr. McCormick. Got you. When we used to test to see if 
children were related to their parents as they came across the 
southern border, we had about an 8 to 9 percent failure rate is 
my understanding. We stopped testing.
    So my question is, if this is about children, like you 
said, which I believe that, too, it is about the child, if we 
don't know how many kids--by the way we have tens of thousands 
of kids who came across the border by themselves, and by the 
way we lost them--we don't know where they are right now under 
the government charges. But it is about children. We don't know 
where those tens of thousands of children who came over here by 
themselves are.
    We don't know if those children were kidnapped by their 
single parents who brought the children across because we don't 
know, and we didn't test. And finally, we don't even know if 
those kids being brought by that one person are genetically 
related to that person they are bringing across.
    So not only do we not have accountability for the children 
who came here by themselves, tens of thousands lost, we don't 
know if that child has been kidnapped by their single parent 
that's coming across the border with those kids. We also don't 
even know if they are related to that child, and they are 
kidnapped from both parents. So how are we making this about 
the child? How do we have accountability in our own country let 
alone foreign countries?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Sir, I really can't speak to issues that 
are related to the Department of Homeland Security and its 
responsibility for the southern border.
    I do know that we do have cases in the Office of Children's 
Issues of children who are brought into the United States from 
Mexico or across the U.S. Mexico border, whether it is from 
Mexico or other countries and where the left behind parent has 
filed a Hague application or another application for the 
child's return.
    I don't have the numbers, but there are cases we are aware 
of those situations.
    Mr. McCormick. I would suggest we have almost no 
accountability. First of all, we know we don't have 
accountability for the tens of thousands of children who 
disappeared when they across the border. We have no 
accountability because we have no idea how many single parents 
come here at the behest of one parent, not both. Because you 
don't know, and I don't know. And we have an act that says we 
should know.
    This isn't about law because we have good laws. We just 
don't enforce them. And what I really want to make sure that 
people understand is we should make it about the child, but we 
are not.
    We have put politics ahead of children repeatedly in our 
own country. And so therefore it is absolutely obscenely 
hypocritical that we talk to other countries about not doing 
their part when we in the United States are not doing our part.
    Shame on us. Shame on this administration. Shame on us for 
not following the law and not being accountable for the very 
children we are supposed to be protecting. With that, I yield.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you very much, doctor. Ms. Jacobs.
    Ms. Jacobs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to both of you 
for being here to testify on this important topic.
    As we all here know, the Hague Convention is an important 
tool to protect the lives of children both globally and 
domestically. And I know one of my constituents, Astrid 
Johnson, is watching this hearing today.
    Three years ago the father of her children fled to Dubai 
and ceased all communications with her. She has not had contact 
with her two young children since June 2023. And currently, she 
is unaware of their address and whereabouts, and they have 
moved several times.
    I know that you are working diligently on this case. We 
have had many conversations on this. But I want to talk about 
some of the constraints that stand in your way. In particular, 
the fact that there are some countries like the UAE who haven't 
signed onto the Hague Convention and are less cooperative.
    So I was wondering how do you approach international child 
abduction cases when it comes to these less helpful countries 
and countries that aren't party to the Hague Convention and how 
should we in Congress be thinking about that piece of this 
puzzle?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Thank you very much for that. When I am 
speaking with foreign government officials, especially those in 
non-Hague countries, again, I make the point that I made 
earlier is that this is about the child. And this is a child 
who in many instances is both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of 
the host government and that we have a collective 
responsibility to do right by them.
    And that does resonate often. In countries that are not 
signatory to the Hague Convention, we seek to have regular 
meetings, regular discussions about individual cases and the 
overarching issues that are creating challenges for left behind 
parents in trying to gain the return of their child or even 
just access to their child. And that is what we seek.
    Again, as I mentioned, we have an MOU with Saudi Arabia 
that lays out a specific timeframe for meetings and issues that 
we will discuss. And I think that is a model that we are trying 
to pursue with other countries as well because it means that we 
open up a dialog. We understand each other. We understand where 
the challenges are. We can be very frank in where we see the 
challenges. And we can look collectively at ways to try to 
address them.
    Ms. Jacobs. Thank you. You know, we know there are a number 
of these countries that show a pattern of non-compliance. The 
2024 Annual Report on International Child Abduction reports a 
number of them. The UAE is on that list.
    Unfortunately, while you have been successful in some of 
these cases, they do often take a very long time, sometimes 
several years such as Ms. Johnson's case.
    So how would you--you know, how should parents of 
internationally abducted children in these kinds of countries 
that are on this list engage with the State Department and 
relevant governments and raise awareness for their children, 
like what advice do you have?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. That's an excellent question. And I hope 
that some of our parents who are here can answer that as well 
in the next panel.
    You know, I have seen some parents conduct really 
successful awareness campaigns that not just got the attention 
of the host government in a constructive way, but also elicited 
both sympathy and support from civil society in that country, 
many of whom may have been facing some of those same challenges 
themselves, depending on local laws. But I have also seen where 
those kinds of very public campaigns can be detrimental, can 
undermine efforts.
    So I think it is important that parents consult with their 
attorneys, with trusted advisors, sometimes other parents who 
have gone through the same kind of ordeal to see what is going 
to work in this country, in these circumstances given the 
circumstances of that particular case.
    But I have seen parents run very effective strategies to 
raise awareness about the pain that they have experienced, 
about the trauma to their children, and have gotten governments 
to pay attention, including our own.
    Ms. Jacobs. Well, thank you. And thank both of you for all 
of your work on this issue. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you, Ms. Jacobs. Just one final brief 
question. When we were writing the law, I put a section in 
there about reporting to Congress, Senate, House, individuals, 
when an individual who has had an abduction, if they give the 
consent to let that Member of Congress know so they can become 
activists on behalf of their cause.
    And it is the law, Section 104, as long as the consent is 
given by the left behind parent. Is that being implemented?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Yes, sir, it is.
    Mr. Smith. And do you have any idea of how many Members of 
Congress have been notified?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. I don't. It is always at the behest of 
the agreement of the left behind parent. But, you know, again, 
I would assume that many left behind parents would love to have 
their Member of Congress involved.
    Mr. Smith. But do they know that--I mean, some people have 
no idea what people they should call. When they call the Office 
of Children's Issues, do you let them know as long as they give 
their authority, their consent, their member House or Senate--
--
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Yes.
    Mr. Smith [continuing]. So both can jump in?
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. Yes.
    Mr. Smith. If you could get back with any kind of number on 
how often that is actually used, because I am not aware that my 
office is--I mean, we get lots of requests, especially from out 
of the State and out of the district, but some from within. And 
I don't know of any, but maybe I missed it, that came from 
State where, you know, you said this person wants you to get 
working on this. So please let us know.
    Ms. Bernier-Toth. It is standard procedure that the Office 
of Children's Issues will ask the parent if they want us to 
contact the Member of Congress' office. But we can get back to 
you on that.
    Mr. Smith. I would appreciate that. Because I think it is 
a--I mean, we have a lot of very effective people, both sides 
of the aisle, who know how. And when we talk about delegations, 
traveling, you know, you bring your names with you every time, 
especially from your own district or State. So it is a tool 
that I think needs to be used very aggressively.
    I thank you for your testimony and look forward to working 
with you going forward.
    I would like now to welcome our second panel to the witness 
table, beginning with Jeffery Morehouse, who is the Executive 
Director of Bring Abducted Children Home, a nonprofit 
organization dedicated to the immediate return of 
internationally abducted children being wrongfully detained in 
Japan.
    BAC strives to end Japan's human rights violation of denied 
children unfettered access to both parents and works to 
increase public awareness through outreach on the crisis of 
international child parental abduction.
    He is also the founding partner of the Coalition to End 
International Parental Child Abduction, uniting organizations 
to work passionately to end, and cooperatively, to end 
international abduction of children through advocacy and public 
policy reform.
    Mr. Morehouse is an award winning filmmaker, advocate, and 
has consulted and co-authored U.S. Department of State 
publications on international child abduction.
    We will then hear from Nafeesah Ali Ismail, who is an adult 
survivor of international parental child abduction. At the age 
of seven, Ms. Ali was abducted by her father from New Jersey to 
northern Egypt, where she remained for the next 10 years. She 
returned home in February 2021 and has dedicated her life to 
helping other children and young adult survivors of 
international child abduction.
    In 2024, she was appointed as youth Ambassador to iStand 
Survivors Network, an NGO that is dedicated to empowering youth 
survivors of parental child abduction to provide support, 
resources, and a safe community for those who have experienced 
the trauma.
    Then we will hear from Melissa Kucinski, who is a lawyer 
and mediator based in Washington, DC. and New York. Her 
practice focuses exclusively on international family law, a 
large portion of which is international family abduction.
    Ms. Kucinski has trained judges on the Hague Convention in 
Maryland, California, Florida. She participates on U.S. 
delegations to the Hague Conference on the Sixth Special 
Commission, a meeting on practical operation of the Hague 
Abduction Convention, and meetings in Tokyo, Japan in 2014 to 
advise on the implementation of the Hague Convention. Ms. 
Kucinski has served on both of those delegations to the Hague.
    She teaches law at George Washington University School of 
Law and has authored several books on the subject. I would like 
to now yield to Mr. Morehouse.

                 STATEMENT OF JEFFERY MOREHOUSE

    Mr. Morehouse. Thank you, Chairman Smith, Ranking Member 
Wild, and to the subcommittee for inviting me here today to 
share my expertise and personal experience in the ongoing 
crisis and crime of international parental child abduction.
    I request that my written testimony be entered into the 
record.
    Mr. Smith. Without objection, so ordered.
    Mr. Morehouse. Thank you. Over the past 14 years of 
advocacy for others and my own personal effort to locate and 
reunite with my kidnapped son, ``Mochi`` Atomu Itomo Morehouse, 
I have been told when our children are adults, they will be 
free to contact us, the seeking parent.
    I understand the general public and the government are 
trying to offer kind words of support. These naive words 
dismiss the opportunity to engage and do more for the 30,000 
American children that have been kidnapped to a foreign country 
since 1994.
    Victims of international parental child abduction do not 
magically reunite with their seeking parent when they become 
adults. They have been indoctrinated for years by the abducting 
parents in the myths that become their reality.
    Reunification staff at the National Center for Missing and 
Exploited Children have shared with us at the conference that 
abduction victims are taught by the kidnapper that the other 
parent is dead, didn't want them, is dangerous or harmful for 
them or in the case of an abducting mother, they can be told I 
don't know who the father is, all designed to erase the desire 
to seek out your other parent.
    The Supreme Court weighed in on this. They recognized that 
family abduction is a form of child abuse with potentially 
devastating consequences for a child, which may include 
negative impacts on the physical and mental well-being of the 
child and may cause a child to experience loss of community and 
stability, leading to loneliness, anger and fear of 
abandonment.
    The impact on this crime, on victims, is lifelong. In an 
article in the Sydney Morning Herald, Susuma Wataya bravely 
shared his experience. He said he was beaten when he asked 
about his father. His last name was secretly changed, cutting 
him off from all future contact. He said, and I quote, ``I lost 
my identity. The pain that this Japanese system causes children 
is beyond description.''
    Last fall in Japan, I met Anthony Soma, a 26-year-old man, 
kidnapped to Japan from the U.S. when he was 7 years old. As a 
child, he told his mom that he wanted to see his dad. She would 
get angry at him or yell at him. So he gave up asking.
    Three years ago, he started asking questions about the 
stories he was told about his father. He said he wants to have 
a relationship with both parents without the conflict.
    Our children are trauma survivors. And that trauma doesn't 
stop when they become an adult. There should be no more 
survivors like Anthony Soma, who are concerned about the 
conflict when they want to know both parents. There should just 
be love and support that assists the child to reunite.
    Mr. Chairman, on April 11, 2024, you handed that letter, 
and you mentioned it at the beginning of today's hearing, to 
Japanese Prime Minister Kishida Fumio--I thank you again for 
that--following his address to Congress. And you wrote, ``To 
date more than 500 American children have been abducted to 
Japan by one of their respective parents and remain separated 
from the American parent. These abductions often occur against 
preexisting court orders and in some cases with the passport 
assistance of the Japanese government.
    For the sake of all the children who are suffering, and for 
the sake of U.S. and Japanese relations, I seek your public 
commitment to reunite these families. The U.S. Congress has 
been united and outspoken on these issues for years. I am 
urging your government to work to return American children.''
    At the May 22, 2024 hearing in the Foreign Affairs Full 
Committee, you also asked, Mr. Chairman, Secretary Blinken 
about the 500 American children kidnapped to Japan. He 
answered, and I will quote again, ``On child abduction, I am 
seized with this. And when we have countries that are not 
abiding by the Hague Convention or engaging in practices that 
are keeping children away from their parents that this is 
something we take action on. And I always welcome working with 
you on that.''
    I would love to learn what that action is. I haven't seen 
anything of substance to address this ongoing human and family 
rights crisis. If it doesn't result in demonstrable increase in 
the return of minor kidnapped children and the reunification of 
all American kidnapped children to or within Japan, regardless 
of age, it is all just words, words, words.
    Last month U.S. Ambassador Rahm Emanuel Tweeted 
acknowledgment of the 10th Anniversary of the Goldman Act. In 
it he announced, ``Working together with Japan, the United 
States is focused on reuniting children with their left behind 
parents and supporting families affected by parental child 
abduction.''
    Are they praising Japan? Is there some kind of new secret 
plan to actually reunite and support families? Or are they just 
making an unaccountable statement? Carefully, carefully crafted 
words.
    We need actions that lead to results. Japan took action for 
the families of the 17 Japanese citizens kidnapped to North 
Korea between 1977 and 1983. The past three U.S. Presidents 
have met with their families and made statements of support to 
the press.
    On April 18 of this year, the Associated Press reported 
that U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-
Greenfield, met with five relatives of these abductees and told 
them, ``The United States stands with these families, with all 
of Japan, and with the international community in pressing for 
a resolution that would allow all families separated by the 
regime's policies to be reunited.''
    She furthered, ``I am all too familiar with the pain and 
loss and the suffering that you, as family members, are 
experiencing. I know how painful this is for you and then how 
long you have had to endure this pain.''
    I understand enduring pain. These seeking parents that are 
here today behind me, they understand enduring pain. Seeking 
parents from all over the globe that are watching this hearing 
right now understand enduring pain.
    Our children, cutoff from knowing their families, 
understand enduring pain. Who is going to take action to end 
our unnecessary pain? Unless Japan wants to continue to be 
internationally known as a black hole for child abduction, it 
is long past due for their government to show good faith and 
publicly commit to reuniting and returning our children.
    There must be lasting public commitment from the U.S. 
Government that we will continue to help their families. And 
that is really important, but Japan must help ours.
    Full support needs to come from the government of Japan to 
locate, fund, and provide for the reunification of our 
kidnapped children with their seeking parents.
    This should extend well into adulthood. Trained experts who 
understand the lasting damage of parental child abduction need 
to be available to assist seeking parents to bridge the gap and 
the barriers created by the child's kidnapping and hardened by 
time, the years and years these families, myself included, have 
had without our children.
    It is estimated in Japan 150,000 children per year--that is 
3 million over 20 years--are victims of loss of access to a 
parent. This reunification program should also include American 
parents who lived there and were robbed of parental rights due 
to Japan's single custody laws.
    Now you may have read, and actually Chairman Smith, I think 
you mentioned also, and some of the first panel witnesses 
talked about Japan fixing their single custody system in the 
laws in an amendment earlier this year, and it was due to 
international domestic pressure. They didn't fix it.
    Under the 2024 amendment to the Civil Code, joint parental 
responsibility would be an option in the future if both parents 
agreed. They could do that now. They could work around the 
existing system, I am sure.
    If they don't agree, a judge could order it. But it is not 
written into the law to break from years and years of 
precedence to make joint parental responsibility a new 
standard.
    It is going to take 2 years to implement, meaning it's not 
going to take effect until April 2026. After that, they are 
going to do a 5-year observation period. So now we are into 
2031 until there will be some sort of formal review of its 
effectiveness or actually ineffectiveness.
    And I have confirmed all of these facts with a Japanese 
member of Parliament, Umemura Mizuho, who has worked on this 
issue from within Japan for years. So there hasn't been a 
change as it has been reported sometimes in the press or, and I 
will take exception to the first panel, how it was represented 
in some of the testimony.
    The U.S. Government designated Brazil, India, and Japan as 
the top three worst offenders on international parental child 
abduction. Our coalition partners at Bring Our Kids Home have 
pleaded with both the U.S. and Indian governments to 
established a joint intergovernmental working group to examine 
cases and promptly repatriate victims to their countries of 
habitual residence. This would allow competent courts in both 
nations to make custody determinations in accordance with the 
best interests of the child.
    The government of India, they have been non-committal at 
best. While the U.S. continues to urge counterparts in India to 
accede to the Hague Abduction Convention, India has thus far 
refused to do so. And if they do become a Hague signatory, I am 
extremely concerned that all of these existing cases will be 
left behind again just like happened with Japan.
    As we have seen it unfold when Japan became a signatory in 
April 2024, all of the seeking parents were barred from filing 
an application for return under the Convention. We were only 
allowed to pursue access.
    The State Department's interpretation of the Goldman Act, 
420 children were excluded. And I know they talked about open 
cases in that year, but I have been around long enough 
unfortunately that I saw hearing after hearing where they 
reduced the number of cases in their testimony to hearings that 
you chaired until they finally claimed there were only 50 open 
cases on that first report.
    There were 420 children that they have acknowledged that 
were kidnapped to Japan prior to that time. These cases were 
excluded from determining Japan's noncompliance. We must not 
allow this to happen again when India, if they eventually 
accede or any other country going forward.
    Abduction cases from the United States to India, they 
continue to just languish. Hope for victimized American 
families and children has all but disappeared. The U.S. 
government's lack of an effective systemic response and the 
State Department's particular failure to utilize escalating and 
meaningful actions under the Goldman Act and hold the 
government of India accountable continue to inflict pain and 
suffering on a daily basis to American victims of IPCA.
    Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Jordan, Peru, 
Romania, and the United Arab Emirates have all been cited for 
noncompliance under the Goldman Act eight or more years since 
2014, Costa Rica and Honduras six times, Bahamas, Dominican 
Republic four times, Belize, Guatemala, Japan, Lebanon, the 
Republic of Korea, Tunisia three times. Fifteen other countries 
have been cited one or two times.
    How many tools provided by the Goldman Act have they used? 
One, a demarche, although at the hearing you mentioned there 
was one other tool used. News to me. I am glad they moved on 
once. They have used one, year after year after year, a letter. 
They sent 159 of these over the past 11 years.
    When Congress, just like you did today, questioned them 
about their usage of the tools or lack thereof, they responded, 
each tool is carefully considered and then they choose the best 
tool for that country and situation and then they send another 
d?marche.
    Dr. Jay Sun, whose son Bryan was abducted in June 2019 to 
South Korea, and Mike Fallon, who a couple of members talked 
about today, whose son Michael, Jr., was kidnapped there in 
August 2023, shared their experiences with me prior to the 
hearing. The Korean government, a Hague signatory, sees these 
cases as family matters and refuses to be involved.
    When they are asked to take action and enforce returns, 
they blame the enforcement officers for their failure. And in 
doing so, Korea allows the abductor to prolong the ongoing 
child abuse and the seeking parent is suffering.
    The underlying message is give up and go away. We are not 
giving up on our children. And we are not going away.
    What can we do today, today, to address some of the 
problems I have outlined? Represent, co-sponsor H.R. 8365, the 
Sean and David Goldman Amendments Act. Get it through 
committee. Get it to the floor.
    Section 2, Paragraph 1, redefines abduction cases so that 
it is any case reported involving an application with the 
central authority to the United States or directly with the 
foreign central authority by a seeking parent seeking the 
rights of access or return so that no child, no case, is 
forgotten and left behind again.
    And this also is very important. It addresses a statutory 
order argument that State made for years on why they have 
excluded access cases like Japan and 13 other countries. Access 
cases are abduction cases. They should not be excluded from the 
reporting when determining noncompliance.
    Section 2, Paragraph 2, is very important as well. Right 
now they are required to report to the foreign affairs and 
foreign relations in the Senate. It would expand reporting to 
Justice, which has a stake in this, Homeland Security, which 
has a stake in this, and Appropriations, which certainly has an 
important role. Under the original act, there was money written 
into it for judicial training. It never got appropriated. State 
could never train judges in family courts across the country.
    When I have been in court as an expert witness, I have to 
spend half my time trying to explain the annual report to the 
judge so they have a fuller understanding of the real risks 
with the country in question.
    Section 2, Paragraph 3, updates and changes the age of 
majority to 18, which is what it should be. That's the age of 
majority in this country and most of the world.
    Section 3 would require the diplomatic mission to do 
outreach to the victim starting at age 16 and continue. Let 
them know that they are an American citizen, and they have 
certain inherent rights. This would continue annually unless 
the victim, once an adult, requested to cease.
    The first time they make that contact, it is not 
necessarily going to break through those years and years and 
years of psychological hold and mythology, but they have a 
right to know they have certain inherent rights and services as 
a U.S. victim and as a crime victim.
    And importantly, Section 4, would call for a study of the 
grave, grave harm to abducted children and left behind parents 
as a result of IPCA. The Supreme Court recognized the 
devastating consequences of family abduction. The Senate has 
adopted multiple resolutions citing the harm done by IPCA. DOJ 
published a family resource guide on international parental 
kidnapping in 2002, last updated in 2007.
    They also updated a specific law enforcement guide on 
international parental kidnapping in 2018. There is a need for 
the study of the grave harm to the children and the seeking 
parents in this process.
    Thirty thousand U.S. children kidnapped to a foreign 
country since 1994. That is the size of an average American 
town. And it has just disappeared.
    When will we see significant actions and a whole of 
government approach to prioritizing families and preventing 
future abductions? Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Morehouse follows:]
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    Mr. Smith. Thank you so much for that very eloquent and 
powerful statement. Ms. Ali?

                STATEMENT OF NAFEESAH ISMAIL ALI

    Ms. Ali. Good morning, Chairman Smith, Ranking Member Wild, 
and members of this distinguished committee.
    My name is Nafeesah Ali Ismail, and I am an adult survivor 
of international parental child abduction.
    I sincerely thank you for the opportunity to share my story 
and related the lived experience of other children and youth 
survivors, those who have come home like me and those who still 
suffer and remain abducted in foreign lands.
    Three years ago, I came home from a 10 year abduction to 
Egypt. At the age of seven, my father took me from my 
birthplace in New Jersey. I didn't understand that when I left 
New Jersey, I was leaving my family, my language, and all that 
I had known in my young life.
    My father then decided to move to Egypt, and we never came 
back. Instead, I remember settling in a small village in 
northern Egypt where everything was foreign to me.
    In the early days, I was not directly taught Arabic 
language, but I was able to pick up the Egyptian dialect pretty 
quickly. Soon I was able to comprehend how people spoke about 
me. It was challenging and confusing for me to understand why I 
was the child with horrible skin tone that relatives slathered 
with whitening cream and also continuously straightened my 
hair.
    My father enrolled me in a language school. And even as a 
third grader, I was able to pick up on the poor quality of 
education offered to me.
    The school helped me speak Arabic, but the academic quality 
was lacking in other aspects. Regularly on my way to school, 
and people in the village stared at me loudly asking, why is 
she so dark? I can never forget those days.
    I was too young to understand. Yes, I understand perfectly 
that I didn't belong there. When I wasn't in school, I mainly 
stayed in my room imagining someone from the U.S. Government 
would knock on the door and ask for me.
    I know other survivors like me have this silly dream. I 
became depressed and lost hope that I would return to the 
United States and attempted suicide multiple times.
    As the years dragged on, altercations between me and my 
father grew more frequent. After one serious altercation, I 
decided that I had enough and reached out to my mother, whom I 
was able to maintain some contact with.
    In the beginning, my mother tried to bring me home. She 
appealed to the State Department, but she was told that she had 
to get an attorney and court orders. She was also told to work 
with Egyptian officials and my father to resolve the matter. 
She didn't know how to do that. Thankfully, my mother 
introduced me to Dr. Noelle Hunter, and iStand peer network.
    We communicated over several months while she understood my 
situation, and we planned how I could get out of Egypt. And 
honestly at this point, I had lost hope that I would come home. 
But I went along with the process.
    Then in December 2020, our plan gradually turned into 
action. First, I arranged my mother to send me money to one of 
my friends since I had no bank account and no Egyptian 
identification. I also took a chance by arranging for my online 
boyfriend, whom I never met, to meet me and take me to the safe 
house in Cairo.
    Immediately after receiving the money, I told my father 
that I had to arrange classes. In reality, I went to go buy a 
new SIM card so no one could track me. I bought a new outfit so 
no one would recognize my clothes. And after packing my 
backpack and getting ready to leave, I asked my father for a 
hug before I left.
    He told me to wait until I returned from class because he 
had a surprise. This broke my heart and made me feel guilty, 
after all I was leaving.
    I boarded a microbus to Mansoura to meet up with my online 
friend. From there, we took a taxi. And after 3 hours, I 
arrived at the safe house. I still remember the fear and relief 
I felt that day. I also believed that in just a few days, I 
will be going back home with Dr. Hunter.
    But this was not the case. To begin with, we went to the 
U.S. Embassy in Cairo to request an emergency passport. It took 
2 weeks, two trips to the Embassy, and special forms for me and 
my mother to get the passport issued.
    During this time, my father started calling the Embassy, 
making threats, demanding to know my whereabouts. The Embassy 
told me that they declined to offer any information about me as 
a U.S. citizen. I was so scared that he would find me.
    We soon learned that having an emergency passport was not 
enough for me to exit Egypt because I didn't have proof of any 
Egyptian identification. It was arranged for me to go to the 
Ministry of Administration of Passports, Immigration and 
Nationality in Cairo to obtain a foreign residence card.
    I visited the location on four separate occasions. The 
staff was uncooperative, leading me in circles, and ultimately 
denying my eligibility to obtain a foreign residence card.
    During this time, we repeatedly asked the U.S. Embassy to 
intervene. They said they made some calls to explain my 
situation, but they only kept referring us back to the 
Ministry. For the longest time, we got nowhere, and I was 
disillusioned.
    Finally, the woman who operated the safe house understood 
how to navigate the complex Egyptian system and found a 
loophole for me to obtain my Egyptian identification.
    I was able to get a foreign resident card in February 2021. 
Dr. Hunter immediately booked a one-way flight to New York 
City. I would like to point out that at the end, I came home 
with the help of a brave woman, only limited support from my 
government, and then I saved myself with the help of others.
    But what about children who are much younger than me, the 
ones who don't have advocates or have a safe house? Returning 
to the United States as a 17 year old who lived most of her 
life overseas still is challenging. Being on the verge of 
turning into an adult is terrifying, was terrifying, because my 
family did not show much support or guidance when I returned.
    My older brother helped me enroll at St. Benedict's 
Preparatory Academy for my last high school years, which helped 
me prepare for life after graduation. I am now a college 
student, and I am learning how to navigate life. It is not 
easy.
    It has been 3 years since my return, and I am grateful to 
be back home in the United States. I have experienced a lot, 
learned many things, and grown tremendously, but the way I 
returned makes me feel out of place.
    This brings me to my recommendations. Our government must 
be more proactive in preventing children like me from being 
abducted and prioritizing our return from foreign countries and 
providing a support system for us when we do come home.
    When we do come home, please help us have a soft landing 
after such a long, painful time of separation from our family 
members by funding a comprehensive aftercare program from the 
moment we step off the airplane, an aftercare program that 
involves counseling, temporary financial support, education 
support, and opportunities for connecting and healing with 
other survivors.
    I know for a fact that such aftercare support works because 
I have experienced it through iStand. They have helped me ease 
my transition back into normality and introduce me to other 
youth survivors, took me to Washington, DC, invited me to 
summer camp and now have appointed me as a youth Ambassador.
    At our summer camp, I met survivors like Dexter, Maayi, and 
Liam. I also met Miyu and Amane, who are with me today behind 
me. We hiked, we swam, and we ate our meals. We laughed and 
cried and shared our experiences together in a therapeutic 
community. We stayed in touch through WhatsApp and regular 
check-ins.
    Another survivor, Elyssa (?), who is also here today, she 
is representing her sister and her brother, Laila (?) and 
Yousef (?), from home from Lebanon. As one of the oldest youth 
survivors in our group, I feel a special obligation on their 
behalf as I am doing today in the sense that I rescued myself 
from abduction and now I want to rescue other abducted children 
and help them have a soft landing and long-term unification 
support that they need when they do return home.
    I am asking Congress, and especially members of this 
committee, to fund a long-term aftercare initiative for 
abducted survivors and turn oversight into action to bring 
abducted American children home. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Ali follows:]
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    Mr. Smith. Ms. Ali, thank you so much for that amazing 
testimony. Thank you for your courage and your tenacity. And 
you are an inspiration to other abducted children that there is 
hope. So you have blazed a trial. Thank you so very, very much. 
And Noelle Hunter, thank you for your great work as always.
    I would like to now--Ms. Kucinski, the floor is yours.

                STATEMENT OF MELISSA A. KUCINSKI


    Ms. Kucinski. Thank you. Chairman Smith, Ranking Member 
Wild, and members of the subcommittee, thank you for inviting 
me to participate in today's hearing, and I thank my co-
panelists.
    My name is Melissa Kucinski. My comments today will 
summarize my written statement, which I have provided for the 
record and for your consideration.
    For U.S. lawyers, the most visible part of the Goldman Act 
is the Annual Report on International Child Abduction. The 
report's conclusions are routinely relied on in litigation of 
custody cases where a parent expresses a fear of parental child 
abduction. But in reviewing this report, there are 
shortcomings.
    The report misses cases that are not filed through the 
central authority. It classifies cases as successfully resolved 
when a parent may have otherwise abandoned their attempt to 
seek their child's return.
    Some countries' compliance is based on so few cases that it 
could be misleading. And the report conflates countries having 
international legal obligations to return children to the 
United States with those that do not have such an obligation.
    The Hague Conference on Private International Law also 
collects data, which paints a more accurate and comprehensive 
picture.
    Using its most recent statistics from October 2023, we see 
that Argentina, for example, averaged 218 days to resolve a 
case under the Convention. The 2024 U.S. Report classified 
Argentina as not compliant.
    In comparison, Australia averaged 309 days according to the 
Hague Conference statistics but is compliant in the U.S. 
Report. Poland, as another example, averaged 250 days according 
to Hague Conference statistics and is not compliant in the U.S. 
Report.
    The United States from its own reporting averages 253 days 
to resolve a case. The length of time to resolve these time 
sensitive cases is but one factor in determining compliance, 
but it is an important factor. And the raw data provided by the 
Hague Conference could indicate a different result than reached 
by the U.S. Report for some countries.
    Overall, the 16 noncompliant countries that are on the 
current U.S. Report are chronic designees, with 10 having been 
cited multiple times since reporting began under the act.
    The reporting and the act itself does not appear to be 
motivating a change in these countries. Therefore, I make the 
following proposals.
    First, courts in the United States take significant time to 
resolve abduction convention cases. The United States should be 
the gold standard in resolving these cases, which will then 
better enable the Department of State to represent the value of 
quickly and capably resolving these cases when they are 
discussing these matters with other countries.
    In that regard, there should be more resources devoted to 
educating our judges and designating a judge in each courthouse 
to handle these cases.
    There should be more resources devoted to educating 
American lawyers, including those who are members of the 
attorney network established by the Department of State. There 
needs to be more accurate and comprehensive statistics and more 
factual data about a country's laws and processes, which will 
stand alone to provide information to parents, lawyers, and 
judges without potentially misleading classifications.
    The Department of State should also engage in dialog on 
complementary legal issues that could potentially reduce the 
number of abductions. The three issues include, No. 1, the lack 
of clear law in family relocation cases and the 
underutilization of the Washington Declaration on International 
Family Relocation by the Hague Conference.
    No. 2, the dated research by the Department of Justice on 
abduction prevention. And No. 3, the concern that U.S. custody 
orders may not be recognized and enforced in other countries 
and how to better inform the United States on its next steps 
for the potential ratification of the Hague Child Protection 
Convention, which it signed in 2010.
    Finally and particularly for countries where there is no 
international law on which to rely for seeking a child's 
return, there should be dialog about the use of mediation as a 
potential tool to secure access to and the possible return of 
children.
    The discussion should include the lack of standards and 
training for international family mediators.
    So I thank you for your time today and for your continued 
concern for cross-border families. I welcome questions today 
and after today.
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    Mr. Smith. We do have votes that have just been called. And 
I apologize for that. So we will have to leave momentarily.
    But each of your testimoneys were blueprints, you know, in 
terms of what didn't happen in Ms. Ali's case and how we need 
to rectify that. And I will personally get your oral as well 
written statements over to panelists in the first panel. I 
would have hoped that they would have stayed to hear you 
because it so, so powerful, and so compelling, all three of 
you.
    But you have given us a roadmap. Where do we go now? And I 
thank you, Melissa, for those thoughts. They were really, 
really good and, of course, Jeffery, you have been giving us 
insights from the very beginning. So I thank you for that.
    And we will take everything you have recommended and act on 
it to the best of our ability as a committee, as individuals 
because we care deeply about this issue, what you have endured. 
And, again, Ms. Ali, standing up for all of the other children, 
which is a perspective that we have not really had enough focus 
on year to date. So I thank you for that.
    You know, when you said that you had fantasized about the 
U.S. Government rescuing you, you know, the government did not. 
It failed you. Our government failed you. That's awful in the 
extreme. So that can't happen.
    And, of course, Jeffery, your child--we just need to step 
this up. Again, I think sanctioning is something they have got 
to matriculate from admonishing and sending our demerches to we 
are not kidding. And that is going to be my battle cry going 
forward on behalf of these children and adults to left behind 
parents.
    So I thank you from the bottom of my heart. We are going to 
keep pushing. We will get those other amendments passed. We are 
trying hard right now. And I would just like to yield for a 
final comment from the ranking member. Thank you.
    Ms. Wild. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I concur on everything 
that the chairman has just said. And I want you to know that 
just because we have not asked you questions today, please do 
not feel that you have not made an impact. You have made a huge 
impact on us and the work that we will do going forward.
    Speaking for myself, I will remember you, Ms. Ali, forever 
and that you will help guide the work that I continue to do in 
this area.
    I do want to allow time for us to step down so that I can 
meet each of you personally, and I am sure Chairman Smith wants 
to also and the others in the audience. So with that, I do 
suggest that we adjourn. But I do want you not to feel that 
just because we haven't asked you questions this hasn't been 
tremendous impactful. Thank you.
    Mr. Smith. Thank you. The hearing is adjourned, and I thank 
you.
    Mr. Morehouse. If I could just request that parents and 
other NGO's that wish to submit statements for the record be 
allowed to do so.
    Mr. Smith. Without objection so ordered, please.
    Mr. Morehouse. Thank you.
    Mr. Smith. Oh, yes, pursuant to the rules, of course, 
members may have 5 days to submit statements, questions, and 
extraneous materials for the record subject to the length 
limitations. Without objection, the committee stands adjourned. 
And again, thank you again.
    [Whereupon, at 4:07 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]

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