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                                                 S. Hrg. 117-967, Pt. 1

                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION 
 REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS 
                            DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                                HEARINGS

                               before the

                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                                   ON

                                S. 4543

     TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 FOR MILITARY 
ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND 
   FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE 
   MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER 
                                PURPOSES

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

 JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman        JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire             ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi
KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York           DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut           TOM COTTON, Arkansas
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii                   MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
TIM KAINE, Virginia                       JONI ERNST, Iowa
ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine                 THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts           DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
GARY C. PETERS, Michigan                  KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia            RICK SCOTT, Florida
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois                 MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada                       JOSH HAWLEY, Missouri
MARK KELLY, Arizona                       TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
                                    
 
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                             march 8, 2022

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United States Strategic Command and United States Space Command..     1

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................     1

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................     3

                           Witness Statements

Richard, Admiral Charles, USN, Commander, United States Strategic 
  Command                                                             3

Dickinson, General James, USA, Commander, United States Space 
  Command                                                            16

Questions for the Record.........................................    69

                             april 5, 2022

United States Special Operations Command and United States Cyber 
  Command Posture                                                    77

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................    77

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................    79

                           Witness Statements

Maier, The Honorable Christopher, Maier, Assistant Secretary of      80
  Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict.

Clarke, General Richard, USA, Commander, United States Special       86
  Operations Command.

Nakasone, General Paul, USA, Commander, United States Cyber          94
  Command/Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central 
  Security Service.

Questions for the Record.........................................   129

                             april 7, 2022

Department of Defense Budget Posture.............................   137

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   137

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................   139

                           Witness Statements

Austin, The Honorable Lloyd III, Secretary of Defense............   141

Milley, General Mark, USA, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.   151

Questions for the Record.........................................   202

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Air Force Posture................................................   231

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   231

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................   233

                           Witness Statements

Kendall, The Honorable Frank, III, Secretary of the Air Force....   234

Brown, General Charles, Chief of Staff of the Air Force..........   236

Raymond, General John, USSF, Chief of Space Operations...........   237

Questions for the Record.........................................   289

                              may 5, 2022

Army Posture.....................................................   323

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   323

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................   325

                           Witness Statements

Wormuth, The Honorable Christine, Secretary of the Army..........   325

McConville, General James, Chief of Staff of the Army............   327

Questions for the Record.........................................   369

                              may 12, 2022

Navy Posture.....................................................   389

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   389

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   391

                           Witness Statements

Del Toro, Carlos, Secretary of the Navy, Department of the Navy..   391

Gilday, Admiral Michael M., Chief of Naval Operations, Department   402
  of the Navy.

Berger, General David H., Commandant of the Marine Corps,           413
  Department of the Navy.

Questions for the Record.........................................   467

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The Department of Energy and National Nuclear Security              505
  Administration on Atomic Energy Defense Activities.

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   505

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................   506

                           Witness Statements

Granholm, The Honorable Jennifer, Secretary of Energy............   509

Hruby, The Honorable Jill, Administrator, National Nuclear          510
  Security Administration.

Questions for the Record.........................................   547

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                         TUESDAY, MARCH 8, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND AND UNITED STATES SPACE COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Rosen, 
Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Cramer, 
Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call this hearing to order.
    Good morning. The Committee meets today to receive 
testimony from Admiral Charles Richard, Commander of U.S. 
Strategic Command, or STRATCOM, and General James Dickinson, 
Commander of U.S. Space Command, or SPACECOM. Admiral Richard, 
General Dickinson, I want to thank you for your service to our 
Nation, and I would like to extend my thanks to the men and 
women serving under your commands.
    Maintaining our nuclear deterrent and preserving our 
ability to operate in space are fundamental to our long-term 
strategic competition with Russia and China.
    There is a reason we have asked the commanders of STRATCOM 
and SPACECOM to testify together. Until 2019, Space Command was 
part of Strategic Command. Now, as SPACECOM stands up as an 
independent command, I would like to know what gaps or seams 
remain exposed during this transition and how they can be 
addressed.
    Much has changed since our last hearing in 2021. Russia's 
ongoing, unprovoked, and illegal invasion of Ukraine has shaken 
the international order that has maintained nuclear stability 
for the better part of a century. Vladimir Putin's behavior has 
been reckless to a dangerous degree. Just prior to its 
invasion, Russia conducted a large out-of-cycle nuclear 
exercise, and the Kremlin has since made a series of escalatory 
statements. Normally, Russia conducts its nuclear exercises in 
the fall and the United States conducts ours afterwards in a 
stable, predictable fashion. Not so this year. More than ever, 
our nuclear deterrent, the bedrock of our national defense, is 
being relied upon as we witness the realities of a European 
conflict involving a nuclear armed nation.
    In the past year, we have also seen China develop three 
missile fields in hardened silos throughout the country. This 
development, along with China's completion of its nuclear triad 
and modernization of its nuclear command, control, and 
communications fundamentally change the nature of Beijing's 
nuclear doctrine. We need to understand why China is 
undertaking this expansion, what it means for stability in the 
Indo-Pacific region, and how we should adjust our own nuclear 
deterrence to protect our Nation and uphold the fundamental 
extended commitment to our allies.
    Similarly, over the past year we gained a clearer picture 
of the threat we face in space, which has become a contested 
domain. In any future conflict, China will quickly extend its 
capabilities into space in a seamless fashion. Russia, for its 
part, acted recklessly in November by destroying a satellite in 
space while building up forces on the Ukrainian border. During 
today's hearing we will discuss these threats and the nature of 
conflict we can expect in space in the years to come.
    In particular, General Dickinson, I would like to make sure 
that SPACECOM is fulfilling the space and ground functions you 
inherited from STRATCOM with respect to missile warning and 
nuclear command, control, and communications. Ensuring we can 
accurately warn both Strategic and Northern Commands, and our 
senior leadership, of a missile attack on the Homeland is of 
the utmost importance.
    SPACECOM is also responsible for integrating and tasking 
both ground and space sensors for better space situational 
awareness, essentially becoming DOD's [Department of Defense] 
``sensor command.'' General Dickinson, I ask that you share 
your vision on how to integrate this myriad number of sensors, 
which range from radars on the ground and at sea to sensors 
aboard satellites.
    General, I would also like to know the progress your 
command is making during its stand-up and how you are finding 
and retaining personnel with the specialized skill sets 
associated with SPACECOM operations.
    Admiral Richard, your command is undergoing an intense 
period of modernization that began with the ratification of the 
New START [Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty]. This will be the 
third modernization cycle since 1960, as parts of each leg of 
our triad age out. I am interested in hearing about the 
progress of modernizing the entire triad and the implications 
of altering that plan, especially with respect to our near-peer 
competitors.
    In addition, I would like to know your views on the efforts 
by the National Nuclear Security Administration to re-
capitalize its uranium and plutonium handling infrastructure. 
Some of these facilities date back to the Manhattan Project and 
are single points of failure in supporting your mission. It is 
essential that we understand what impacts this may have on your 
operations.
    Thank you again for appearing today and I look forward to 
your testimonies.
    Ranking Member Inhofe cannot be here today. We anticipate 
he will return next week. But I would ask that his opening 
statement be submitted to the record, and without objection, so 
ordered.
    [The prepared statement of Senator James M. Inhofe 
follows]

             Prepared Opening Statement by James M. Inhofe
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also want to welcome our witnesses and 
thank them for their long service in defense of our Nation.
    Admiral Richard, General Dickinson, almost a year ago, each of you 
appeared before this Committee and offered dire warnings about the need 
to deter two peer adversaries.
    You cautioned us that Russia remains a pacing threat as it expands 
its nuclear forces, outlined the pacing challenge of a rising China and 
its massive military modernization effort, and advised us that Russia 
and China have already weaponized space.
    If we have learned anything over the past year, it's that as 
worrying as your prior warnings were, the reality of what our Nation is 
facing is much, much worse.
    China is expanding its nuclear, missile, and space capabilities 
faster than any country in history. Its investments are shifting the 
balance of power in the Pacific--but China is also building its 
capabilities to extend its reach across the globe.
    Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and his reckless threats of 
escalation have shattered Europe's security, and, for the first time in 
decades, forced Americans to face the possibility that nuclear weapons 
could be used in anger.
    Meeting the challenge of Russian and Chinese aggression across all 
domains means we must invest in the capabilities required to deter 
these threats, and we need to be realistic about the level of resources 
needed to make that happen.
    The administration's first budget request failed to seriously 
address these threats, and now we're looking at inflation that will 
cripple our buying power further--even after Congress acted to increase 
the budget.
    This trend cannot continue if we intend to compete with two peer 
countries that are clearly focused on overturning the U.S.-led global 
order.
    Both of you are responsible for missions with zero margin for 
failure. Unfortunately, chronic underinvestment has left us with an 
undersized, aging nuclear deterrent and a space architecture that lacks 
the resilience needed to prevail in a multi-domain conflict.
    Moving forward, we need to accelerate efforts to right-size our 
forces to meet the strategic deterrence and space warfighting 
requirements of the coming decades.
    I look forward to your testimony. Mr. Chairman.

    Chairman Reed. I would also note for my colleagues that 
there will be a classified briefing immediately following this 
session in SVC-217 to continue our discussion.
    With that let me recognize Admiral Richard.

STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL CHARLES RICHARD, COMMANDER, UNITED STATES 
                       STRATEGIC COMMAND

    Admiral Richard. Chairman Reed, distinguished Committee 
Members, I am pleased to testify today with my fellow combatant 
commander, General Dickinson.
    Before I begin, given the ongoing and historically 
significant crisis that is happening in Ukraine right now, I am 
going to need to defer all questions regarding Russia and a 
number of questions related to our own forces to the closed 
session.
    I want to thank Secretary Austin, Chairman Milley for their 
continued support to the strategic deterrence and strategic 
defense of the Nation as well as their overall leadership under 
some very trying conditions.
    Ladies and gentlemen, right up front I want to assure you 
that the 150,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, 
civilians of U.S. Strategic Command, as always, are ready to 
execute our strategic deterrence mission.
    Chairman Milley rightly stated, we are witnessing one of 
the largest shifts in global geostrategic power the world has 
ever witnessed. Today we face two nuclear-capable near-peers 
who have the capability to unilaterally escalate to any level 
of violence, in any domain, worldwide, with any instrument of 
national power, at any time, and we have never faced a 
situation before like that in our history.
    Last fall, I formally reported to the Secretary of Defense 
the PRC's [People's Republic of China] strategic breakout. 
Their expansion and modernization in 2021 alone is 
breathtaking, and the concern I expressed in my testimony last 
April has now become a reality. I had previously emphasized our 
need to be able to deter two adversaries at the same time. That 
need is now an imperative.
    I have said this before and I think it is worth repeating. 
Every operational plan in the Department of Defense and every 
other capability we have rests on an assumption that strategic 
deterrence is holding, and in particular that nuclear 
deterrence is holding. If strategic or nuclear deterrence 
fails, no other plan and no other capability in the Department 
of Defense is going to work as designed. The Nation's nuclear 
forces underpin integrated deterrence and enable the U.S., our 
allies, and our partners to confront aggressive and coercive 
behavior.
    The strategic security environment is now a three-party 
nuclear near-peer reality. Today's nuclear force is the minimum 
required to achieve our national strategy. Right now I am 
executing my strategic deterrence mission under historic 
stress, crisis levels of deterrence, crisis deterrence dynamics 
that we have only seen a couple of times in our Nation's 
history, and I am doing it with submarines built in the 1980s 
and 1990s, and air-launched cruise missile built in the 1980s, 
intercontinental ballistic missiles built in the 1970s, a 
bomber built in the 1960s, part of our nuclear command and 
control that predates the internet, and a nuclear weapons 
complex that dates back to the Manhattan era.
    We must modernize the nuclear triad, the NC3, the nuclear 
weapons complex, and supporting infrastructure to meet 
presidential objectives. While modernization must be the 
priority, please make no mistake. STRATCOM's forces are ready 
today.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Charles A. Richard 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Charles A. Richard
                              introduction
    United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) is the global 
combatant command (CCMD) responsible for Strategic Deterrence, Nuclear 
Operations, Global Strike, Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations, 
Analysis and Targeting, and Missile Threat Assessment. In addition, the 
January 2021 Unified Campaign Plan (UCP) designated the Commander, 
USSTRATCOM (CDRUSSTRATCOM) as the Nuclear Command, Control, and 
Communications (NC3) Enterprise Operations lead. It takes a team of 
dedicated individuals to execute our mission set, and I am honored and 
privileged to lead the 150,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, 
guardians, and civilians dedicated to the DOD's highest priority 
mission.
    I want to thank Secretary Austin and Chairman Milley for their 
leadership and continued support to the strategic defense of this 
Nation. USSTRATCOM is committed to Secretary Austin's integrated 
deterrence initiative and remains dedicated to his priorities of 
defending the Nation, taking care of our people, and succeeding through 
teamwork. I also want to thank Congress for your continued support to 
ensure USSTRATCOM is equipped with the resources necessary to maintain 
strategic deterrence on behalf of the Nation, our allies, and our 
partners.
    Since my last testimony, there should be no doubt we are contending 
with a rapidly changing and dynamic strategic security environment 
where potential adversary actions challenge us in ways we have not 
experienced in over 30 years. In September 2021, I formally declared 
the strategic breakout of the People's Republic of China (PRC) to the 
Secretary of Defense. A strategic breakout denotes the rapid 
qualitative and quantitative expansion of military capabilities that 
enables a shift in strategy and requires the DOD to make immediate and 
significant planning and/or capability shifts. The PRC continues the 
breathtaking expansion of its strategic and nuclear forces with opaque 
intentions as to their use. The recent test of an intercontinental 
ballistic missile (ICBM)-launched hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) with 
fractional orbital bombardment (FOB) is just one example of these 
growing capabilities. Meanwhile, Russia conducted the invasion of 
Ukraine backing its actions with the coercive potential of the world's 
largest nuclear arsenal. The strategic security environment is now a 
three-party nuclear-peer reality, where the PRC and Russia are 
stressing and undermining international law, rules-based order, and 
norms in every domain. Never before has this Nation simultaneously 
faced two nuclear-capable near-peers, who must be deterred differently.
    I applaud Secretary Austin for his vision of integrated deterrence 
across the Joint Force, our allies and partners as the foundation of 
the National Defense Strategy. Every operational plan in the DOD, and 
every other capability we have, rests on the assumption that strategic 
deterrence, and in particular nuclear deterrence, will hold. If 
strategic or nuclear deterrence fails, integrated deterrence and no 
other plan or capability in the DOD will work as designed. The Nation's 
nuclear forces underpin integrated deterrence and enable the U.S., our 
allies and partners to prevent and, if necessary, confront aggression 
around the globe using all instruments of national power.
    Our operational requirements exist to execute Presidential 
directives and decisions we make today will have lasting strategic 
impacts on our ability to do so. Maintaining and strengthening 
deterrence for the long-term requires a modern infrastructure and 
industrial base able to develop credible capabilities necessary for a 
more challenging security environment. While the command is ready to 
execute its mission today, we must make threat-informed decisions 
regarding our nuclear capabilities to provide strategic deterrence well 
into the future.
                      strategic threat environment
    Chairman Milley rightly stated that we are experiencing one of the 
largest shifts in global geostrategic power the world has ever 
witnessed. Today, both the PRC and Russia have the capability to 
unilaterally escalate a conflict to any level of violence, in any 
domain, worldwide, with any instrument of national power, and at any 
time. USSTRATCOM measures the risk of strategic deterrence failure 
every day considering this reality. The DOD can no longer have the 
luxury of assuming the risk is always low, particularly during a 
crisis. Potential adversaries, as they have for years, have the 
capability to threaten to inflict catastrophic effects on the U.S. 
Homeland, and on our allies and partners to achieve their national 
objectives.
    Our potential adversaries continue to rapidly advance the 
capability to conduct these attacks. Their growing capabilities will 
pose a danger to U.S. They will continue to expand and diversify their 
nuclear forces over the next decade and the PRC, in particular, will 
increase the role of nuclear weapons in its defense strategies. The 
range of their new systems complement growing nuclear stockpiles, and 
includes the development and modernization of survivable nuclear 
triads, counter-intervention, and power projection capabilities 
intended to deter and deny our regional influence.
    The Nation faces significant risk as our potential adversaries 
develop and deploy emerging technologies, such as anti-satellite, 
hypersonic, and FOB capabilities. They are also pursuing leadership in 
key technologies with significant military potential including, 
artificial intelligence (AI), autonomous systems, advanced computing, 
quantum information sciences, biotechnology, and advanced materials and 
manufacturing. USSTRATCOM supports Secretary Austin's call for measures 
to protect critical U.S. capabilities, technologies, and operations as 
the Nation also faces risks from the threat of foreign theft of U.S. 
technology, penetration of U.S. information and weapons systems, supply 
chain disruptions, and cyberespionage campaigns designed to erase 
United States advantages. Cyber threats from the PRC, Russia, and the 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) are determined and 
unrelenting. Even now, Russia threatens cyberattacks against the United 
States as tensions over Ukraine increase. To that end, USSTRATCOM 
implemented a new construct to operationally harden NC3 systems against 
cyber threats to improve force readiness during competition and crisis. 
We must mitigate these threats for future programs to field new 
uncompromised capabilities.
                       people's republic of china
    We should carefully consider the PRC's actions rather than their 
rhetoric. The breathtaking expansion of land-, sea-, and air-based 
nuclear delivery platforms, command and control survivability, novel 
and asymmetric weapons, and supporting infrastructure is inconsistent 
with a minimum deterrent posture. When I testified last year, I warned 
that the PRC was capable of executing any plausible nuclear strategy. I 
am fully convinced the recent strategic breakout points towards an 
emboldened PRC that possesses the capability to employ any coercive 
nuclear strategy today.
    Just three months after my April 2021 testimony, commercial 
satellite imagery revealed three new nuclear missile fields in western 
China, each with approximately 120 missile silos. With this discovery, 
it is clear the People's Liberation Army Rocket Force (PLARF) will soon 
achieve a robust ICBM capability. The new silos can be equipped with 
the solid-fueled, road-mobile CSS-10 Mod 2 capable of reaching the 
continental United States (CONUS). This is in addition to the fixed 
ICBM arsenal of CSS-4 Mod 2 and multiple independently targetable 
reentry vehicle (MIRV) equipped CSS-4 Mod 3 ICBMs. While only a 
developmental concept in 2019, the PRC has already fielded the road-
mobile, MIRV-capable, CSS-20 with launch options including silo or 
rail-mobile basing. Counting both conventional and nuclear-armed 
missiles, the PLARF employs over 900 theater-range intermediate and 
medium-range ballistic missiles (IRBM / MRBM), some of which are 
capable of doing catastrophic damage to United States, Allied, and 
partner forces in the region. Combined, this formidable arsenal is 
cause for concern.
    Further advancements in the last year include ground-based, large 
phased array radars and at least one geostationary satellite capable of 
detecting ballistic missile launches. These capabilities, plus a 
rapidly expanding silo-based ICBM force, indicate the PRC increased the 
peacetime readiness of its nuclear forces and seeking a Launch-on-
Warning posture, all while the PLARF now rotates it's nuclear and 
conventional brigades to ``high alert duty'' posture for unspecified 
periods. Enhancing the survivability of its sea-based deterrent, the 
third generation JL-3 submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBM) 
allows the People's Liberation Army Navy's (PLAN) now six JIN-class 
ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) to target CONUS from a protected 
bastion within the South China Sea.
    The PRC's pursuit of an ICBM delivered HGV with FOB capability is a 
technological achievement with serious implications for strategic 
stability. On 27 July 2021, the PRC's first HGV FOB test resulted in 
40,000 kilometers distance flown and over 100 minutes of flight time--
the greatest distance and longest flight time of any land attack weapon 
system of any nation to date. The PRC is investing heavily in HGV and 
directed energy weapons technology for global strike and defeat of 
missile-defense systems, anti-satellite, anti-missile, and anti-
unmanned aircraft system capabilities.
    The PRC is increasing its capacity to produce and enrich plutonium 
by constructing fast breeder reactors and reprocessing facilities, 
which may be used to support a growth in China's nuclear weapons 
stockpile. While the PRC may use a portion of this infrastructure for 
civilian nuclear technology programs, it is highly likely some 
infrastructure will support their expanding nuclear weapons program. 
This accelerated nuclear expansion may enable the People's Liberation 
Army (PLA) to field over 700 nuclear warheads by 2027. The PRC likely 
intends to have at least 1,000 warheads by 2030, greatly exceeding 
previous DOD estimates. Unlike the United States, the growth of the 
PRC's nuclear arsenal is not constrained by any treaty limits.
    Finally, the PLA continues to develop and field precision strike 
nuclear delivery systems. The dual-capable DF-26 IRBM can range 
critically important ports, airfields and bases in the western Pacific 
with conventional and nuclear payloads. Survivable road-mobile 
transporter erector launchers can deliver the DF-31A ICBM at ranges in 
excess of 11,000 kilometers. The PLA's H-6N air-to-air refueling-
capable bomber, which can carry the nuclear air-launched ballistic 
missile (ALBM), is entering its second year of operational service. The 
2020 Annual Report to Congress, released in November 2021, surmises 
that the PRC may be building a new conventional- and nuclear-capable 
stealth strategic bomber with global reach in addition to medium and 
long-range stealth bombers. These nuclear-related advancements are 
additive to the PRC's ongoing conventional modernization and expansion 
efforts, where they already have a substantive overmatch in regional- 
and theater-class weapons and capabilities.
Russia
    Russia is in its second decade of investing substantial resources 
to expand their strategic and non-strategic nuclear capabilities. In a 
recent statement, President Vladimir Putin recounted that in 2000 
Russian nuclear deterrent forces were only 12 percent modernized. By 
late 2020, President Putin stated that 86 percent of Russia's nuclear 
forces had been modernized, including components from all legs of their 
strategic nuclear triad, and promised to increase modernization to 89 
percent by the end of 2021. Nuclear weapons are an integral part of 
Russia's national security strategy and Moscow appears to utilize them 
to demonstrate political stake, deter outside actors, and support 
resolutions acceptable to Russia. In June 2020, Russia publicly 
revealed its official nuclear deterrence strategy for the first time, 
describing threats and conditions for the use of nuclear weapons. 
Within this strategy, Russia acknowledges it could use nuclear weapons 
first, including in response to conventional attacks that threaten the 
``existence of the state.''
    Russia made extensive efforts to update their ICBM force with 
single and multiple warhead missiles, including the developmental silo-
based SS-X-29 Sarmat heavy ICBM with the capacity to carry ten or more 
warheads on each missile; the deployed, more capable silo-based variant 
of the SS-27; and the silo-based or road-mobile ``KEDR'' ICBM to be 
fielded by 2030. To support the expansion and modernization of the sea-
leg of its triad, Russia plans to complete the production of ten 
Dolgorukiy-class SSBNs and deploy them equally across the Northern and 
Pacific Fleets by 2028. These SSBNs will carry the new SS-N-32 Bulava 
SLBM, enhancing Russia's strategic reach while retiring the older Delta 
IV SSBNs.
    Russia also continues to invest in strategic air capabilities, 
fitting its heavy bombers with a new advanced nuclear cruise missile. 
On 12 January 2021, Russia accepted delivery of the first of ten brand-
new Tu-160M strategic bombers with updated NV-70M radar and NK-32-02 
engines. An accomplishment not seen since the Cold War, restarting the 
Tu-160M production line required cooperative efforts between the 
Kremlin and the Russian industrial base. The opening of new 
manufacturing and production lines further illustrates Russia's ability 
to rapidly increase its industrial production capacity to support its 
strategic forces.
    In my last testimony, I highlighted Russia's novel and advanced 
weapon delivery systems, many of which are capable of hypersonic speeds 
and flight path adjustments designed to avoid United States missile 
defense systems. They pursue these capabilities despite the United 
States clearly relying on its strategic nuclear forces to deter any 
large attack by Russian nuclear weapons. The Avangard HGV, Tsirkon 
hypersonic anti-ship and land-attack missile, and Kinzahl ALBM are 
operationally fielded now. Meanwhile work continues on the Skyfall 
nuclear-powered intercontinental cruise missile and the nuclear-armed 
Poseidon autonomous underwater vehicle. All provide Russia with an even 
more diverse and flexible nuclear force while posing a challenge for 
us. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu asserted that hypersonic weapons 
will make up the core of Russia's non-nuclear deterrence capability in 
the future. Russia is not limiting itself to these new systems and 
claims to have already completed serious research and technological 
groundwork on pieces of equipment that have no counterpart in the 
world. They continue to develop additional strategic systems with new 
hypersonic warheads to expand the range of threats against the United 
States, our allies and partners.
    Russia's stockpile of approximately 1,000 to 2,000 non-treaty 
accountable nuclear weapons is anticipated to grow. These weapons fall 
entirely outside of the United States-Russia New Strategic Arms 
Reduction Treaty (START) and provide Russia with a diverse stockpile of 
theater and tactical weapons systems employable by naval, air, and 
ground forces. In a conventional conflict, if Russia perceives an 
irreparable imbalance of forces, it may escalate to non-treaty 
accountable nuclear weapons use.
    In October 2019, Russia conducted their largest strategic nuclear 
exercise since the collapse of the Soviet Union. The exercise was 
notable for the size and scope of the nuclear forces involved and 
strategic messaging. President Putin participates in these exercises, 
indicating a high-level of readiness across Russia's strategic nuclear 
forces and intending to serve as a visible message to the United States 
and NATO. These major strategic exercises include command and control 
operations with participation of the entire nuclear triad; an ICBM 
combat training launch; and long-range aviation cruise missile 
launches. More importantly, Russia rescheduled and completed the 
strategic exercise to coincide with the invasion of Ukraine in February 
2022.
DPRK
    The DPRK remains a strategic security challenge as it continues to 
conduct activities that threaten regional stability and defy 
international norms. The DPRK previously tested ICBM-class missiles 
designed to reach the United States, and they have a large arsenal of 
theater-class missiles.
    The recent missile launches demonstrate their ongoing desire to 
develop a credible missile threat. USSTRATCOM supports the Department's 
efforts with regional partners to reduce military tensions and 
encourages diplomatic efforts to pursue the DPRK's denuclearization. At 
the same time, USSTRATCOM will continue to contribute to the extended 
deterrence commitments of the Republic of Korea and Japan.
                         integrated deterrence
    While deterrence is not a new concept, the emerging security 
environment necessitates integrated deterrence to leverage all elements 
of national power, while enabling the Joint Force to synchronize 
actions across domains and time on an unprecedented scope and scale. 
Yet, the foundation of the Nation's strategic deterrent is unchanged: a 
powerful and ready nuclear force, a survivable NC3 system, and a 
responsive nuclear weapons infrastructure. Absent this foundation, the 
credibility of integrated deterrence will not work.
    Sustaining and strengthening our Nation's deterrence is imperative. 
Our potential adversaries employ coercion or threat of force as a means 
to challenge U.S. security commitments and undermine the existing 
international order. To confront aggressive and coercive behaviors of 
nuclear-capable near-peers, the Nation must leverage all elements of 
national power with our nuclear enterprise at its foundation. 
Integrated deterrence orients the DOD toward stability and cooperation, 
and clearly communicates the folly and cost of aggression and that 
diplomacy is always the best option.
    Alliances and partnerships remain our greatest strength and are 
enabled by our credible extended assurance and deterrence. Our policies 
and postures must enable our allies to contribute to collective 
defenses even in the face of adversary nuclear coercion. We share with 
our allies and partners a collective of like-minded states who believe 
a free and open world should be the foundation of the international 
order. Our alliances are only as strong as the guarantee of extended 
deterrence and assurance backed by credible U.S. nuclear forces, which 
are essential to integrated deterrence.
                    what we need to do--our mission
    Fundamentally, strategic deterrence relies on credible capabilities 
backed by a safe, secure, reliable, and effective nuclear enterprise. 
We no longer face a singular operational problem set but must consider 
two nuclear-capable near-peers simultaneously. The attributes provided 
by all three legs of the triad, forward-deployed regional capabilities, 
a robust NC3, and a weapons complex able to adapt to future threats 
offers the President flexible options and enhances the credibility of 
deterrence. Our strategic capability and capacity must evolve with the 
threat to achieve our National strategy. USSTRATCOM encourages 
Congress, the Department, and the Service s to continue their decades-
long support for these vital national security capabilities.
Land-Based Triad Component
    The Minuteman III (MM III) ICBM force has stood on continuous alert 
every hour of every day for the past 50 years, ready to deliver a 
responsive and highly reliable strategic deterrent capability--and our 
potential adversaries know it. MM III represents half of the Nation's 
day-to-day available deterrent and its geographic dispersion presents 
an intractable targeting challenge. I previously testified that without 
the Nation's ICBMs the PRC becomes a strategic nuclear peer. The 
discovery of three new ICBM missile fields in the last year 
demonstrates the value the PRC places on land-based forces. If we 
choose not to continue investing in the land-based leg of our triad, 
the PRC will soon have a superior, modernized nuclear force with 
elevated day-to-day readiness.
  Requirement for MM III Sustainment
    The MM III is well beyond its intended 10-year design life, yet 
still provides a high availability rate, testifying to its robust 
design, past modernization efforts, and the dedication of the airmen of 
the U.S. Air Force. Exhaustive Air Force analysis decisively 
demonstrated that another MM III life extension is more costly than 
recapitalization, and the debate has moved well beyond funding. We 
cannot continue to rely on an aging ICBM force with end-of-life 
challenges and the inability to pace the threat. We must complete 
Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD) recapitalization on time and 
avoid the ``sunset mentality'' prevalent when replacing old systems.
  Requirement for Ground Based Strategic Deterrent
    GBSD is the program of record to recapitalize the ICBM force and is 
critical for maintaining a strong deterrent posture. GBSD will be able 
to pace the threat and is integral to our strategy to navigate the 
three-party nuclear-capable peer reality. Its development, procurement, 
and deployment are the best approach to ensure the land-based leg of 
the triad remains effective and affordable. GBSD preserves the MM-III's 
key attributes while improving operational effectiveness against a 
rapidly developing threat. USSTRATCOM encourages continued 
Congressional support for the Air Force's ongoing GBSD strategy--pursue 
mature, low-risk technologies; design modularity; advanced cyber 
security; open system architecture; and state-of-the-art model-based 
systems engineering.
Sea-Based Triad Component
    The Navy's Ohio-class SSBN fleet, paired with the Trident II D5 
Strategic Weapon System (SWS), combines a highly effective, survivable, 
worldwide launch capability with continuous and virtually undetectable 
strategic deterrent patrols. Since their first deployment, early in the 
Cold War, we have relied on our SSBN fleet for a resilient, reliable, 
and survivable deterrent.
  Requirement for Trident Sustainment and Modernization
    No single Navy submarine has served longer than 37 years, yet the 
entire Ohio-class SSBN fleet has been life extended to an unprecedented 
42 years. USSTRATCOM requires Ohio-class sustainment and modernization 
until completely replaced in 2042 by the Columbia-class SSBN. Ohio-
class sustainment is critical to ensure operational availability of the 
submarine force to minimize significant transition risk throughout the 
Columbia-class deployment timeline. The Columbia-class SSBN remains a 
high priority strategic deterrent program for USSTRATCOM. The program 
of record delivers twelve SSBNs, the absolute minimum required to meet 
at-sea requirements, especially during triad recapitalization and 
future intensive fleet maintenance periods. Continued Congressional 
support for the Columbia program is vital to strategic deterrence. It 
must deliver on time to avoid a triad capability gap.
    To guarantee uninterrupted SSBN capability, we must continue 
investing in our SSBN SWS programs. The Navy previously life extended 
the Trident II D5 weapon system (D5LE) to outfit the Ohio-class through 
retirement and deployment of the first eight Columbia-class SSBNs. A 
second D5 life extension (D5LE2) is required to ensure a viable SSBN 
deterrent through the 2080s. D5LE2 will continue reliable, high 
performing D5LE design elements and components in order to mitigate 
cost and technical risk. Additionally, D5LE2 meets current D5 
demonstrated performance while offering added flexibility to support 
future missions and payloads in response to advancing threat 
environments.
  Anti-Submarine Warfare
    Anti-submarine warfare threats continue to evolve rapidly as 
potential adversaries continuously look for new and innovative ways to 
gain an advantage in the undersea domain.
    The Navy's Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS) provides 
vital information concerning submarine and surface ship operations, and 
acoustic characteristics of interest. It allows U.S. forces to maintain 
favorable tactical and strategic positions while supporting deterrent 
patrol operations. Surveillance performed by IUSS directly contributes 
to the theater anti-submarine warfare commander's maritime defense of 
the Homeland. Advances in Russian submarine stealth and detectability 
makes IUSS recapitalization a national imperative.
    While our submarines are formidable weapon systems, we must address 
potential adversary's undersea security advances to ensure our current 
and future SSBN fleet remains effective and viable well into the 
future. Evolving submarine quieting, acoustic arrays, and processing 
capabilities challenge our acoustic superiority and subsequently, SSBN 
survivability. Advanced modifications of large vertical arrays, 
advanced materials science and coatings, and other efforts within the 
Acoustic Superiority Program are vital. Funding for these emerging 
passive long-range detection/wide area search programs secure our SSBN 
fleet advantages through the Ohio to Columbia transition.
Air-Based Triad Component
    The bomber fleet is our most flexible and visible leg of the triad. 
We are the only nation with the capability to provide bombers in 
support of our allies and partners, enabling the U.S. to signal our 
resolve while providing a flexible option to de-escalate a conflict or 
crisis. Bombers support both strategic deterrent and conventional 
employment options, and execute global strike, nuclear, and 
conventional deterrent mission sets around the globe to achieve 
National objectives. USSTRATCOM executed 127 Bomber Task Force (BTF) 
missions over the past year. BTFs remain the iconic example of dynamic 
force employment across the entire Joint Force and potential 
adversaries watch these missions closely. We strongly encourage 
continued Congressional support for full funding of the bomber fleet.
  B-52H Sustainment
    The B-52H is a 60-year-old platform with plans to remain in service 
for another 30 years. Achieving this unparalleled milestone carries 
maintenance and operational challenges, which require dedicated 
technical and funding resources. Critical B-52 modernization upgrades 
include the Commercial Engine Replacement Program (CERP), Radar 
Modernization Plan (RMP), and survivable NC3. These improvements are 
necessary to keep the B-52 flying and able to pace the evolving threat. 
The Air Force recently selected Rolls-Royce to execute CERP to replace 
the B-52's 1960s-era TF-33 engines, enabling longer unrefueled range 
with lower emissions while solving supply chain issues afflicting the 
current engines. The B-52's very low frequency (VLF) and extremely high 
frequency (EHF) modernization programs will provide mission critical, 
beyond-line-of-sight strategic connectivity, and must field on time to 
meet USSTRATCOM's operational requirements.
  B-2 Sustainment
    The B-2 fleet remains the world's only low-observable bomber, able 
to penetrate denied environments while employing a wide variety of 
munitions against high-value strategic targets. The DOD must protect 
this unique operational advantage as the Air Force transitions from the 
B-2 to the B-21. The Air Force can only achieve a successful transition 
with full funding for the B-2 sustainment and modernization programs 
until the B-21 completes development and certification, both 
conventional and nuclear missions. A carefully synchronized transition 
is necessary to mitigate operational risk associated with executing the 
triad-wide multi-platform recapitalization.
  Requirement for B-21
    The B-21 Raider will support the nuclear triad with a visible 
deterrent capability and provide strategic and operational flexibility 
across a wide range of military objectives. The program is on track to 
meet USSTRATCOM operational requirements, with five test aircraft 
currently in development and the first operational aircraft scheduled 
for delivery in the mid-2020s. USSTRATCOM supports fully funding the 
Air Force's B-21 strategy to prevent operational shortfalls in the 
bomber force.
  Air-Delivered Weapons / Long Range Standoff
    The air-delivered weapons portfolio consists of the Air Launched 
Cruise Missile (ALCM), the B83 gravity bomb, and the B61 family of 
weapons providing the right mix of standoff and direct attack munitions 
to meet near-term operational requirements. The long range standoff 
(LRSO) weapon will replace the ALCM as our Nation's only air-delivered 
standoff nuclear capability. It will provide the President with 
flexible and scalable options, and is capable of penetrating and 
surviving against advanced air defenses--a key attribute and critical 
component in all USSTRATCOM operational plans. Without LRSO, B-2 and B-
21 bombers will have no option but to fly directly over targets to drop 
gravity-delivered weapons unnecessarily increasing risk to the mission 
and the lives of Air Force bomber aircrews.
    The LRSO complements the ICBM and SSBN programs as they transition 
from legacy to modernized weapon systems. The LRSO on-time delivery is 
important to sustaining strategic stability, as potential adversaries 
will exploit gaps resulting from technical problems or production 
delays. Finally, fielding LRSO is cost-effective. Using gravity weapons 
to deliver similar effects would require ten-times the current bomber 
allocation and four times the current tanker allocation, with more 
gravity weapons, or employment of additional triad elements. LRSO full 
funding is absolutely imperative to reduce operational risks we face 
during triad recapitalization.
  Tanker Support
    A robust tanker fleet is essential to sustaining global reach for 
all USSTRATCOM mission sets. While the KC-135 and KC-10 force has done 
the yeoman's work for decades, the Air Force's effort to revitalize the 
tanker fleet is timely. The likelihood of future concurrent mission 
sets between strategic, theater, and homeland defense is high, 
requiring continued tanker modernization and expansion efforts. 
USSTRATCOM fully endorses and supports the Air Force's effort to 
modernize and sustain the tanker fleet.
Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications
    NC3 provides the critical assured communications link between the 
President and our nuclear forces. On-going NC3 Enterprise Center (NEC) 
modernization efforts bridge the gap between legacy and future systems 
to ensure this critical link does not fail. While aging capabilities 
provide the nuclear triad with sufficient viable assured strategic 
communications; today, sustainment issues increasingly compromise the 
reliability of these stalwart systems. Modernizing our NC3 systems is 
key to ensuring the nuclear capability of the Nation remains fully 
positioned to provide an assured response if called upon. Our NEC Next 
Generation capabilities must pace adversary emerging and future 
technological developments.
  NC3 Next Generation / Modernization
    Potential adversaries continue to rapidly research, develop, and 
field emerging technologies and weapon systems. We are at a point where 
end-of-life limitations and the cumulative effects of underinvestment 
in our nuclear deterrent and supporting infrastructure leave us with no 
operational margin. The Nation simply cannot attempt to indefinitely 
life-extend leftover Cold War weapon systems and successfully support 
our National strategy. Pacing the threat requires dedicated and 
sustained funding for the entire nuclear enterprise and NC3 Next 
Generation modernization must be a priority.
    The DOD operates, maintains, and defends the current NC3 enterprise 
every single day from cyber threats. In coordination with the Services, 
USSTRATCOM led an enterprise-wide approach to harden the current 
architecture until complete fielding of the NC3 Next Generation. As an 
example, the Air Force is leading the effort to modernize the NC3 data 
pathways for the Strategic Automated Command and Control System 
(SACCS), replacing legacy telephony to sustainable and secure modern 
technology with upgraded at-risk cryptographic devices.
    The NEC and DOD stakeholders fielded the NC3 Next Generation 
Increment 1 capabilities, including the Family of Advanced Beyond Line 
of Sight Terminals (FAB-T) to replace antiquated survivable satellite 
communications equipment. The NEC, the National Security Agency (NSA), 
and the Services also began replacing outdated encryption equipment 
with newer, upgraded capabilities. The NC3 Enterprise continues segment 
upgrades to legacy telecommunications capability from analog to digital 
working closely with the Defense Information Systems Agency. This 
conversion is the first step to standardize our enterprise-wide 
terrestrial communications highway. Additionally, the NEC collaborated 
with U.S. Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM) to execute a cybersecurity pilot 
program to provide real-time, persistent monitoring across various NC3 
networks to detect, characterize, and mitigate adversary network 
actions.
    The NEC, Navy, and Air Force completed the first step in a digital 
high frequency (HF) demonstration to enable advanced beyond line-of-
sight communication between our command centers and operational forces. 
USSTRATCOM developed, installed, and deployed a mobile communications 
suite providing an alternative communications capability supporting 
continuity of operations and force direction. This new capability will 
enable USSTRATCOM to rapidly create requirements and field systems in 
the future.
    The NEC is undertaking several efforts to more rapidly develop and 
deliver NC3 enterprise capabilities. The NEC established a digital 
modeling and engineering environment (DMEE), a collaborative platform 
in the standard development of and test engineering specifications for 
the NC3 enterprise. The NEC and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, 
through a Partnership Intermediary Agreement (PIA), established the 
Nebraska Defense Research Corporation (NDRC). The PIA fosters 
collaboration between commercial entities, defense industry, academia, 
Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs), and other 
government agencies. The NDRC is already prototyping of future NC3 Next 
Generation Incremental capabilities. All of these efforts are currently 
ongoing and will posture delivery of NC3 Next Generation Increments and 
provide increased operational margin within our NC3 Enterprise.
  NC3 Cybersecurity, Technological Improvements, and AI / Machine 
        Learning (ML)
    USSTRATCOM continues to realize the benefits from the investment in 
our world class Command and Control Facility, the DOD's newest NC3 
command center. Confidence in our ability to protect, defend, and 
execute the nuclear deterrent mission in the face of advanced cyber 
threats remain high. The relative isolation and the redundancies of the 
systems comprising the Nuclear Command and Control System (NCCS), 
combined with ongoing cybersecurity enhancements, ensure our ability to 
respond under adverse cyber conditions. To preserve our critical 
information and command and control advantages, USSTRATCOM is investing 
in cybersecurity protections that exceeds the DOD baseline standard 
while looking for opportunities to improve that posture.
    Near-term efforts to enhance cybersecurity of the NC3 enterprise 
include: the establishment of quarterly cybersecurity reporting for all 
NC3 information technology (IT) systems; ongoing efforts with 
USSTRATCOM system program managers to correct cybersecurity shortfalls; 
piloting of a persistent cyber sensing and monitoring capability for 
NC3 IT systems; and the development and execution of Defensive Cyber 
Operations (DCO) Internal Defensive Measures (IDM) to harden and defend 
the NC3 cyber terrain. As the threat evolves; however, the DOD must 
continue to fund and rapidly implement required cybersecurity 
capabilities. CyberSecurity Service Provider (persistent cyber 
defense); persistent sensing and monitoring across the NC3 enterprise; 
and cryptographic modernization will ensure the confidentiality of our 
information and decision making capabilities. A responsive cyber 
Command and Control construct will enable the rapid dissemination of 
defensive cyber operations orders, facilitate action, and enable 
follow-up reporting. These efforts will ensure continued readiness of 
the nuclear deterrent mission and set conditions for the success of our 
conventional forces.
    Deep learning and advanced data management concepts are also 
fueling new demands for infrastructure that can scale to capacity on 
demand. Acting on the guidance of the Deputy Secretary of Defense and 
recommendations from the National Security Commission on AI, USSTRATCOM 
implemented the Command Data and AI Center (CDAI) to solve the 
command's most intractable problems through the application of advanced 
AI/ML methods. The command is recruiting a highly skilled workforce to 
build and maintain a resilient and scalable cloud and on-premise 
infrastructure to provide the capabilities to maintain information 
advantage over our potential adversaries.
    We will do this in ways consistent with the DOD Ethical Principles 
for Artificial Intelligence, while continuing to lead in developing 
best practices for the development and application of AI and ML 
technologies to ensure their use is safe, secure, reliable, and 
consistent with our values. In an effort to ``go faster,'' USSTRATCOM 
completed a 90-day pilot to assess opportunities to leverage commercial 
industry and use of non-traditional unclassified data sources to solve 
some of our most challenging problems. I strongly endorse Deputy 
Secretary of Defense Hicks's AI and ML initiatives in this critical 
focus area.
    USSTRATCOM continues to collaborate with USCYBERCOM, the Services, 
and agencies to leverage technologies in development, security, and 
operations (DevSecOps), code delivery, cloud computing, and data 
analytics to accelerate the development and delivery of new 
capabilities. Initiatives in these areas will jumpstart development of 
frameworks and governance necessary to pace the threat. Likewise, these 
new areas require stable, consistent, and on-time funding.
Nuclear Weapons and Supporting Infrastructure
    The Nation faces a confluence where triad delivery platforms, 
weapons, and infrastructure must modernize simultaneously. As with DOD 
programs, the Department of Energy (DOE) and the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA) fill a vital role providing the weapons 
and components required to maintain the Nation's strategic deterrent 
mission. The NNSA's programs of record must be prioritized and executed 
on schedule to ensure the DOD retains a credible and modern triad. The 
NNSA's ability to sustain the Nation's nuclear weapons stockpile is 
underpinned by a resilient and responsive production infrastructure and 
robust science and technology programs. All of these elements are 
critical to maintaining a safe, secure, and effective deterrent force. 
The objective is to restore the weapons complex to a resilient, 
responsive and modern condition; capable of sustaining the health of 
the Nation's stockpile and keeping pace with the evolving threat 
environment.
  Nuclear Weapons and Stockpile Challenges
    While today's stockpile is safe, secure and militarily effective, I 
am increasingly concerned with reliability and performance degradations 
in the majority of our systems. We must execute stockpile modernization 
programs on time to reverse this trend. In compliance with national 
policy, the NNSA has done an excellent job reducing the weapons 
stockpile. As we shift focus beyond life extension to modernizing our 
remaining weapons, we must overcome obstacles that delay program 
execution. Failure to do so results in accumulation of operational risk 
from continued deferral of necessary modernization programs and aging 
weapons in the stockpile decades longer than intended. For example, 
both the B61 life extension and W88 alteration programs were delayed 
24-months and are now late-to-need. The W80-4 program is a just-in-time 
modernization for airborne standoff capability, and any program delay 
incurs operational impacts.
    Stockpile modernization programs take 10 to 15 years to execute. 
Without a concerted effort to reduce these timelines, today's issues 
will continue to manifest as the Nation undertakes more complex 
ballistic missile modernization programs. Specifically, W87-1 is the 
``pathfinder'' weapons program for modernizing our land- and sea-based 
ballistic missile systems and will develop the infrastructure and 
technology processes needed in the future. Any W87-1 program delays 
will cascade through each follow-on program, beginning with the W93/
Mk7. W93/Mk7 must deploy on time to reduce our over-reliance on a 
single SSBN warhead type, avoid future simultaneous SLBM modernization 
and support the United Kingdom's modernization to its deterrent force.
  Weapons Complex Infrastructure
    The DOE, NNSA, and DOD work closely to ensure the nuclear weapons 
infrastructure complex is postured to ensure the stockpile remains 
safe, secure, and militarily effective. However, today's Manhattan 
Project-era infrastructure is in poor condition, challenging NNSA's 
ability to successfully meet basic sustainment needs. Long-term 
deferred infrastructure investments have significant impacts, and there 
are heightened concerns with every major site providing critical 
stockpile capabilities to include uranium, tritium, high explosives, 
lithium, radiation-hardened electronics, testing, experimentation, and 
weapon assembly/disassembly. Infrastructure modernization must be 
accomplished to prevent delays in fielding required capabilities. 
Prioritizing crucial NNSA infrastructure modernization programs is the 
best and only option to pace projected threats and sustain strategic 
deterrence.
    In 2021, it became clear the production complex would not meet the 
Nation's plutonium pit production requirements, necessitating pursuit 
of less optimal approaches to meet stockpile modernization programs in 
the 2030s. Pit production shortfall is a leading indicator of how our 
current infrastructure is unable to execute the needed and planned 
stockpile modernization strategy. The atrophied condition of the 
infrastructure, coupled with delays in fielding necessary state of the 
art capabilities, significantly increases operational risk in 
sustaining a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent.
  Science, Technology, and Engineering Base
    The science, technology and engineering (ST&E) base is essential 
for nuclear weapon and production complex modernization. Our ability to 
attract and retain the best and brightest scientists, engineers, 
program managers and technicians to work in the strategic deterrence 
mission set rests on ST&E efforts. In 2021, ST&E programs continued to 
advance our understanding of nuclear weapons. For example, the National 
Ignition Facility (NIF) at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 
(LLNL) made a major technological advance, to expand the range of 
experiments directly relevant to stockpile modernization. This 
achievement will enable high fidelity testing to address challenging 
nuclear survivability requirements in the future.
    The ability of NNSA to backstop an aging stockpile and 
infrastructure with advanced science and technology programs has 
enabled the Nation to sustain the deterrent well beyond projected 
lifetimes. As our potential adversaries rapidly advance their nuclear 
programs; however, this edge in science and technology is beginning to 
erode. The Nation must aggressively sustain and advance these critical 
resources to improve our understanding of nuclear weapons performance 
and mature technologies to allow us to confidently move forward with 
stockpile and production modernization programs. I have formally 
reported this to the Secretary of Defense.
Nuclear Weapons Security / Force Protection
    Nuclear weapons security remains a top USSTRATCOM priority and I am 
encouraged by the Department's continuing efforts to enhance and 
improve our security posture and capabilities. The security systems 
that protect our nuclear weapons must evolve as potential adversaries 
seek to exploit vulnerabilities. We must remain committed to protecting 
the investments in and fielding of the capabilities required to 
maintain the high security standards this mission demands and continue 
to adapt as the threat evolves.
  MH-139A Grey Wolf Replacement Helicopter
    The Air Force continues to make progress toward replacing the aging 
UH-1N helicopter fleet with the MH-139A Grey Wolf. The Grey Wolf will 
close our UH-1N limitations in speed, range, endurance, payload and 
survivability, and provide a rapid lethal response to address security 
vulnerabilities. We look forward to the Air Force completing Grey Wolf 
FAA certifications and getting aircraft ``on the ramp'' as we move 
toward full operational capability across all three ICBM wings in 
fiscal year 2028.
  Countering Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems
    USSTRATCOM requires an effective integrated set of Countering Small 
Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-sUAS) capabilities to defend strategic 
locations and assets across the threat spectrum in a rapidly advancing 
and technically challenging environment. As technology advances, so 
must our access and authorization to use both kinetic and non-kinetic 
capabilities in C-sUAS engagements to protect our nuclear assets. I 
strongly support the Services' efforts to develop and field effective 
protection systems and encourage continuing Congressional support as we 
deploy C-sUAS capabilities to reduce the threat.
  Countering Underwater Unmanned Vehicles
    USSTRATCOM requires an integrated Counter-Unmanned Underwater 
Vehicle (C-UUV) capability for protection of strategic naval assets. 
The underwater environment has become an uncontested entry point for 
UUV systems, threatening our strategic assets. The effectiveness of 
traditional undersea detection and protection methods must be enhanced 
and new capabilities developed to ensure we retain strategic advantage 
in response to this emerging threat. It is imperative we seek and 
employ non-traditional layered protection measures to maintain the 
safety and security of our waterfronts and strategic assets.
  Weapons Generation Facilities
    The future Weapons Generation Facilities (WGF) are a DOD program 
priority and will consolidate weapon maintenance and storage functions 
to support ICBM and bomber missions. These functions reside in 1960s 
and 1970s era Weapons Storage Areas (WSA) that exceed their intended 
service lives. Emerging threats expose WSA vulnerabilities, driving the 
need for a cost effective approach to restore weapon security and 
storage; however, the uncertainty of consistent stable funding, supply 
chain concerns, and pandemic repercussions affect overall confidence in 
construction schedules.
Conventional Hypersonic Weapons
    Hypersonic weapons development remains a top USSTRATCOM priority. 
Hypersonic weapons will provide a highly responsive, non-nuclear global 
strike capability against distant, defended, and/or time-critical 
threats when other forces are unavailable, denied access, or not 
preferred. Conventional hypersonic weapons will enhance our overall 
strategic deterrence posture by providing the President additional 
strike options to rapidly project power and hold high-value targets at 
risk without crossing the nuclear threshold. USSTRATCOM will be ready 
to command and control hypersonic weapons the day they are fielded, as 
these weapons directly contributes to the Command's Strategic 
Deterrence and Global Strike missions. We appreciate and encourage 
continued Congressional funding as we quickly develop, procure, and 
field this enhancement to our strategic deterrence portfolio.
           joint electromagnetic spectrum operations (jemso)
    USSTRATCOM and the Joint Force are critically dependent on the EMS. 
Across the competition continuum, the Electromagnetic Spectrum (EMS) 
will be congested, contested, and constrained. Potential adversaries 
are pursuing technology to deny our ability to use the EMS successfully 
across our range of missions and operations, to include targeting 
critical NC3 architecture. To ensure freedom of maneuver in the EMS, we 
must continue to develop and integrate EMSO across the DOD and with 
select allies.
    USSTRATCOM is implementing operational aspects of the DOD EMS 
Superiority Strategy (EMSSS) I-Plan Goal 5, Establishing Effective EMS 
Governance, in coordination with DOD Chief Information Officer (CIO), 
OUSD, Joint Staff, Combat Support Agencies, CCMDs, and Services. To 
support this goal, USSTRATCOM will establish a 2-Star Direct Report 
Organization called the Joint EMS Operations Center (JEC). The JEC will 
enable execution of proposed amended UCP responsibilities for JEMSO 
operational lead reporting directly to CDRUSSTRATCOM and we intend to 
achieve IOC this year.
    USSTRATCOM is leading the development of JEMSO Cells (JEMSOC) 
across the Joint Force to support joint planning, coordination, and 
control of the EMS. The USSTRATCOM JEMSO staff in lockstep with DOD 
CIO, is driving the requirements for a JEMSOC Electromagnetic Battle 
Management (EMBM) system to achieve EMS superiority.
    USSTRATCOM's Joint Electromagnetic Warfare Center (JEWC) 
established the first-ever Joint EMS Information Analysis and Fusion 
capability to provide spectrum-specific data for electromagnetic battle 
management and CCMD JEMSO cells. Our task is to raise the aggregate 
readiness of the Joint Force to prevail in a complex EMS that has 
become key terrain in nearly every military action we undertake.
                            missile defense
    Missile defense (MD) remains an essential element of our strategic 
deterrence approach, raising the stakes of rogue actors and regional 
adversaries and denying the benefit of attack against our protected 
assets as part of an integrated deterrence framework, both for the 
Homeland and for the regional CCMDs. The active missile defense mission 
begins with launch detection, attribution, warning, and tracking, all 
of which face significant challenges as potential adversaries develop 
and deploy hypersonic systems, increase ballistic, cruise missile 
availability, and lethality. Technology developments continue at an 
unrelenting pace and employment techniques--operating at lower 
altitudes, higher speeds, and with greater maneuverability--continue to 
challenge our missile defense systems. We must develop and deploy 
additional missile defense systems with advanced capabilities into the 
existing architecture to address the rapidly changing threat 
environment. USSTRATCOM is engaging with CCMDs, the Services, and 
agencies to advocate for and deliver global integrated missile defense 
capabilities and capacity in an operationally relevant timeframe.
    As we move beyond legacy interceptor-based ``hit-to-kill'' 
technologies, we must expand our approach to active defenses and 
appreciate the funding of such critical sensors as the Hypersonic and 
Ballistic Missile Space Tracking Sensor (HBTSS) and the Space 
Development Agency's Tranche 1 MD Tracking Layer. As the Department 
develops capabilities that complement our existing Ground-Based 
Interceptor (GBI) systems and regionally-focused systems such as, 
Aegis, Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), and Patriot, we 
must examine novel, cost effective options to adapt and overcome 
emerging threats. Finally, we should consider modifications to existing 
systems to defend against emerging threats, while remaining fiscally 
responsible--for example, fully integrating existing space- and 
terrestrial-based sensors in an attempt to identify and track 
ballistic, maneuvering, hypersonic, and cruise missile threats, as well 
as unmanned aerial systems.
    USSTRATCOM continues to work with our allies and partners to 
further integrate our capabilities to meet common threats. Led by the 
Joint Force Component Command-Integrated Missile Defense, the 24-nation 
missile defense policy campaign, NIMBLE TITAN 20, culminated with a 
senior leader event in Amsterdam in November 2021and was successfully 
completed despite the limitations of the on-going pandemic. We have 
begun planning our next campaign, NIMBLE TITAN 23, to deepen the 
exchange of MD policy views and insights and collectively explore 
operational concepts in this challenging environment.
                       our people & partnerships
    It has been 30 years since this Nation has had to seriously 
consider the implications of competition through crisis and possible 
conflict with a nuclear-armed opponent let alone two nuclear-capable 
near-peers. USSTRATCOM holds the bulk of the last remaining strategic 
and operational deterrence expertise in the DOD. Thus, our people and 
partnerships are a vital element to the national strategic deterrence 
mission. Even against the challenges of the continuing pandemic, the 
personnel of USSTRATCOM remain operationally resilient. Because of our 
people, we continued the mission during this unforeseen crisis.
  People
    The Command remains committed to improving our workforce and our 
competitive advantage. We are growing our intellectual and deterrence 
theory capital through industry and academic partnerships such as 
USSTRATCOM's Strategic Fellows and Deterrence Education Programs. We 
continue to pursue Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in line with DOD 
guidance through Human Capital initiatives. The Command emphasizes and 
distributes Service and agency focused resources to provide greater 
visibility to individuals within the Command. We offer opportunities 
for our military and civilian workforce to pursue additional diversity 
leadership training and certificates, opportunities to participate in 
Heritage Councils to help celebrate DOD-recognized special observances, 
and Directorate-level diversity councils to promote healthy culture and 
provide direct feedback on workforce and personnel guidance and 
processes. Additionally, we provide and monitor active feedback 
mechanisms to report on health and culture within the Command and 
provide tools to address diversity issues.
  Academic Endeavors
    This Nation faces an intellectual challenge, requiring us to 
leverage the intellectual capacity of the U.S., our allies and 
partners. USSTRATCOM is making a concerted effort to reinvigorate 
research in strategic deterrence. Since the establishment of the 
Academic Alliance in 2014, over 70 academic institutions and industry 
partners have focused on USSTRATCOM's challenging mission set while 
building the next generation of national security professionals. 
Although the Alliance is currently developing the deterrence-focused 
curricula, it is only a fraction of what is needed to reinvigorate 
research and analysis for deterrence concepts. In August 2021, I 
further challenged the Academic Alliance, FFRDCs, and think tanks to 
provide new ideas on strategic deterrence in the 21st century by 
establishing USSTRATCOM's first ever analytic agenda. The response from 
these institutions is so promising that I am integrating some of the 
concepts and ideas into USSTRATCOM plans and operations.
    While this is a good start to understanding deterrence in the 21st 
century, good will, and the Academic Alliance will only take the 
Department and our Nation's capacity to think through deterrence 
challenges so far. USSTRATCOM collaborates with the National Strategic 
Research Institute (NSRI) and the University of Nebraska to research 
key topics in my analytic agenda. This initiative only scratches the 
surface to truly understand the implications of strategic deterrence in 
the 21st century and requires additional engagement with our academic 
partners.
  Wargames
    Exercises, wargames, tabletop exercises (TTX), and rehearsals of 
concept continue to refine how we demonstrate joint capacity, 
capability, and interoperability across the globe. Last year, 
USSSTRATCOM conducted over 360 nuclear command, control, and 
communications-focused exercises and wargame events focused on 
coordination with other CCMDs and the interagency, integrating advanced 
weapons, and improving processes and procedures to leverage every 
advantage from our nuclear enterprise.
                               conclusion
    Potential adversary actions are challenging us in ways we have not 
experienced in over 30 years. USSTRATCOM will continue to deter 
strategic attack and employ forces as directed by the President to 
guarantee the security of the Nation, our allies, and our partners. We 
must remember deterrence is not a static concept--it evolves--and the 
current evolution of the world's strategic security environment will 
result in three nuclear-capable near-peers. The PRC and Russia actively 
seek to change the international rules-based order, while the United 
States, with our allies and partners, seek to defend it. Our military 
can contribute to an integrated whole-of-government approach only if we 
make clear-eyed and threat-informed decisions regarding the 
capabilities needed to protect and defend the Nation. The Nation's 
nuclear force is the backstop of integrated deterrence. Today, we stand 
ready to execute our assigned missions. Failure to pace the threat from 
potential adversary technological advances today may inhibit our 
ability to do so in the future. To execute a National strategy 
resistant to adversarial coercion, we need modern, effective, and 
reliable capabilities. Above all else, USSTRATCOM will continue to 
provide strategic deterrence, underwriting every U.S. military 
operation around the world and deterring great power conflict. Peace is 
our Profession . . . 

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Admiral. General 
Dickinson, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES DICKINSON, COMMANDER, UNITED STATES 
                         SPACE COMMAND

    General Dickinson. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and 
thank you, Chairman Reed and members of the Senate Armed 
Services Committee. As always, I am honored today to represent 
the approximately 18,000 men and women of the United States 
Space Command. We are a joint and diverse team of professionals 
who value the honorable service of everyone within our ranks.
    Today we are not only in full support of our joint forces 
globally and NATO in Europe but we remain hard at work building 
the command toward full operational capability. We are steadily 
building the capability and capacity in our headquarters, and 
its composition reflects our joint, combined, and partnered 
approach to executing our critical mission. As of this month we 
have over 1,000 members assigned to our headquarters, including 
civilians, contractors, Active Duty personnel from all 
services, representatives from the interagency, and 
servicemembers from the National Guard and Reserves.
    We also recognize the vital importance of our allies and 
partners through the contributions of an assigned international 
general office and two international liaison officers on our 
staff. We are pleased to have all of them on our team.
    Responding to the threats to the U.S. and allied interests 
in space demands the teamwork and expertise of every one of our 
people. We are prepared to execute our unified command plan 
missions and responsibilities, yet acknowledge that the 
challenges from our competitors in the domain are substantial 
and, in fact, growing.
    China remains our pacing challenge. Current PLA [People's 
Liberation Army] development is directed towards creating a 
joint, versatile, professional, and lethal force capability of 
power projection globally, and the space layer is critical to 
their efforts. In 2021, the PRC increased on-orbit assets by 27 
percent. This increase brings their on-orbit satellite total 
from just over 100 satellites 10 years ago to more than 500 
satellites today. Their recent counter-space capability 
demonstrations include the DN-1 and the DN-2 direct descent 
anti-satellite tests and a hypersonic glide vehicle test.
    In October of 2021, the PRC launched their SJ-21 satellite, 
described as a, quote, ``space debris mitigation,'' end quote, 
satellite. In January, the SJ-21 docked with a defunct PRC 
satellite and moved it to an entirely different orbit. This 
activity demonstrated potential dual-use capability in SJ-21 
interaction with other satellites and builds on the previous 
demonstrations in late 2016 of potential dual-use capability 
that we saw in the SJ-17.
    Over the past 2 weeks we have witnessed Russian aggression 
in Europe on a significant scale. Space is not a sanctuary from 
similar behavior. Russia is actively working to regain its 
prestige as a space power. The destructive direct ascent test 
just this last November is an example of their activity. Space 
is no longer a sanctuary, and U.S. Space Command stands ready 
to protect and defend the space assets of the United States and 
our partners and allies.
    U.S. Space Command is committed to deterring the use of any 
space capabilities for nefarious purposes within the framework 
of the Department of Defense Integrated Deterrence Strategy. 
Key to all of this is U.S. and allied space superiority 
informed through space domain awareness, or SDA, capabilities. 
SDA helps us analyze, not just identify, what is occurring in 
space, which when combined with the information from our 
intelligence agency helps develop an understanding of why 
things are happening, characterize intent, and provide decision 
advantages to our leaders. Our SDA capabilities are part of a 
broader resilience space architecture that enables command and 
control and provides the tools to sustain freedom of action in 
the space domain.
    Within this broader resilience space architecture, SDA 
remains my top mission priority for U.S. Space Command. SDA 
provides the backbone of U.S. Space Command's strategy for 
accomplishing our mission. That strategy sets the conditions to 
understand and attribute activities in space. This enables our 
mission to deter first, and when called upon, to defend space 
capabilities and to deliver combat power for the United States 
and our allies.
    Our strategy has three main areas of focus: first, 
countering competitive influence; second, strengthening 
relationships and attracting new partners; and third, building 
and maintaining a competitive edge. With continued support from 
Congress, U.S. Space Command will do all of that and more. U.S. 
Space Command is postured to protect and defend the space 
domain while ensuring continuous space effects are delivered to 
our joint and combined force.
    I assure you, here today, that U.S. Space Command is ready. 
So on behalf of the most critical resource in our command, the 
soldiers, marines, sailors, airmen, guardians, civilians, and 
families of the command, thank you, Chairman Reed and members 
of this Committee, for your support of our mission to conduct 
operations in, from, and to space.
    I submit my statement for the record, and I look forward to 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General James H. Dickinson 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General James H. Dickinson
                              introduction
    Space is vital to our modern way of life and our people remain our 
most critical asset. China and Russia are developing new space and 
counterspace capabilities to achieve national goals and deny the United 
States, our allies and our partners the advantages from space. United 
States Space Command (USSPACECOM) is focused on providing support to 
warfighters from space as well as defending the space domain as a 
necessary part of our national security, especially in light of the 
rapid evolution of the threats we face, and the importance of deterring 
potential adversaries from challenging or attacking U.S., allies', and 
partners' space systems.
    In August 2021, I informed the Secretary of Defense and publicly 
announced that USSPACECOM had reached Initial Operational Capability 
(IOC). My IOC declaration represents a measured assessment that 
USSPACECOM is able to execute key Unified Command Plan-assigned tasks, 
including normalizing USSPACECOM's command and control of Operation 
Olympic Defender; successfully demonstrating at combatant command-level 
exercises our warfighting acumen; and adding to the Command's space 
data sharing agreements that now total more than 100. Today we are 
capable of delivering strategic effects, providing the National Command 
Authority with space domain options for achieving national objectives. 
We are ready to address threats and take advantage of opportunities 
across the spectrum from competition to conflict.
    However, there is much more work to be done to build capacity as 
USSPACECOM continues driving toward Full Operational Capability (FOC). 
We are increasing our capacity within the framework of the President's 
Interim National Security Strategic Guidance and the U.S. Space 
Priorities Framework. In line with this guidance, the Unified Command 
Plan, and the Secretary of Defense's approach to Integrated Deterrence, 
we are implementing USSPACECOM's strategy. Our strategy sets the 
conditions to deter, and to win when compelled to fight. It does this 
in three ways: (1) Countering Competitor Influence; (2) Strengthening 
Relationships and Attracting New Partners; and (3) Building and 
Maintaining a Competitive Advantage. My focus on these three efforts 
within our strategy will achieve our desired end state: a team of 
professionals, Active, Guard, Reserve, civilians and contractors, who 
outthink and outmaneuver our adversaries, operate with our allies and 
partners, and when necessary, win through space combat power.
                    countering competitor influence
    The challenges to maintaining a safe, secure and sustainable space 
domain are increasing. On November 15, 2021, Russia tested a ground-
based Direct Ascent Anti-Satellite (DA-ASAT) missile and successfully 
intercepted and destroyed one of its own defunct satellites. While 
Russian aggression remains visible on the global stage, we must also 
keep our eye on the pacing challenge - the People's Republic of China 
(PRC). Both the PRC and Russia continue to develop and test 
sophisticated anti-satellite weapons to hold U.S. and allied and 
partner space assets at risk. In 2007 the PRC, similarly, conducted 
their own destructive ASAT test. These debris-creating events 
threatened the lives of those onboard the International Space Station 
(ISS), and other commercial and space-faring nations' satellites in low 
Earth orbit. Additionally, the PRC conducted the first fractional 
orbital launch of an ICBM with a hypersonic glide vehicle from China on 
July 27, 2021. This demonstrated the greatest distance flown (824,850 
miles) and longest flight time (8100+ minutes) of any PRC land attack 
weapons system to date.
    These events demonstrate how the PRC and Russia have tested 
counterspace weapons across multiple domains as a way to blunt United 
States influence, deter, and counter a possible U.S. response during 
conflict or crisis, and across the board reduce U.S. and allied 
military effectiveness in the future. Our competitors are also 
developing and proliferating satellites and satellite attack 
capabilities to hold our space and strategic capabilities at risk. 
These counterspace capabilities include cyber, electronic warfare (EW), 
directed-energy weapons, anti-satellite missiles, and space-based 
weapons, which enables our competitors to achieve a range of effects. 
These effects range from degrading space services temporarily to 
damaging or destroying satellites permanently in and through space that 
jeopardize our capabilities in other domains.
    To negate the growing EW and cyber threat, we are partnering with 
the U.S. Intelligence Community to explore a testbed to assess new jam 
and spoof resistant waveforms for all satellite telemetry, tracking, 
and command. The PRC has operational ground-based missiles in their 
fielded forces intended to destroy spacecraft in low-Earth orbit, and 
ground-based lasers likely created to blind or damage sensitive space-
based optical sensors on satellites in low Earth orbit. Our competitors 
have counterspace capabilities and operational military doctrines that 
extend warfighting to space. They are continuing to modernize their 
space attack capabilities. Today, space is a warfighting domain because 
our competitors have made it so.
    Consequently, the number one need for the Command is to enhance our 
understanding of the congested and complex space operational 
environment, to include what is occurring and when, and the intent 
behind those engaged in such actions. This critical task requires a 
deep understanding of space objects and capabilities regardless of 
their national origin. This is why my priority request to Congress is 
to authorize and fund Space Domain Awareness (SDA) programs that enable 
us to monitor the domain effectively and provide combat-relevant 
indicators and warning of potential threats to U.S. Government, allied, 
and partner space systems. SDA encompasses identifying, characterizing 
and understanding objects to enable real-time assessments of 
potentially threatening activities in space and developing appropriate 
options for a response. Through SDA, USSPACECOM can better protect and 
defend our vital space assets when there may be only minutes to 
respond.
    Our SDA capabilities will be part of a broader, resilient space 
architecture that enables command and control and provides the tools to 
sustain freedom of action in the space domain. Within this broader, 
resilient space architecture, SDA remains my top priority. Our space 
posture must not be predicated on a static defense. Domain awareness 
enables us to observe, orient, decide, and act. SDA is foundational to 
effective and proactive maneuver; this is essential to ensuring 
proliferated architectures are resilient architectures. This Command 
depends on the SDA capabilities fielded by all of the military Services 
as well as the commercial sector.
The Pacing Challenge--The People's Republic of China
    The PRC poses a major security challenge and remains a long-term 
strategic competitor to the U.S. Its government views the international 
environment and the PRC's relationship with the U.S. as increasingly 
contentious. The PRC continues its decades-long military modernization 
campaign in order to build what it terms a ``world-class military'' by 
the end of 2049. Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leaders characterize 
their long-term military modernization program as essential to 
achieving great-power status. In 2020, the CCP's People's Liberation 
Army (PLA) added a new 2027 milestone to accelerate the integrated 
development of ``mechanized,'' ``informatized,'' and 
``intelligentized'' armed forces to provide CCP leadership more 
credible military options. The PLA believes the fundamental precepts 
for modern ``informationized'' and future ``intelligentized'' warfare--
including their use and advancement of machine learning and artificial 
intelligence (ML/AI)--include space superiority, the ability to control 
the information sphere, and denying adversaries the same.
    In the next 5-10 years the PLA's Strategic Support Force (SSF) will 
field a range of counterspace weapons with a mature space and 
counterspace infrastructure to directly challenge United States' space 
superiority and threaten the United States in all orbital regimes. PLA 
modernization focuses on improvements in long-range precision strike, 
cyberspace, electronic warfare, counterspace, and a modern, effective 
nuclear deterrent that collectively make the PLA a combat-capable 
global joint force. To enable this transformation, the PRC's Central 
Military Commission established the SSF in 2015 to integrate 
cyberspace, space, information operations, psychological warfare, and 
EW capabilities into joint military operations. The SSF's space 
activities focus primarily on satellite launches and operations to 
support PLA intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR); 
navigation; and communication requirements. An increasingly capable and 
lethal PLA joint force will almost certainly be able to hold U.S. and 
allied forces at greater risk.
    The PRC's rapidly growing space program is second only to the 
United States in the number of operational satellites it maintains. The 
PRC completed 55 launches throughout the year, surpassing the United 
States' 51 launches. At the end of 2021 the PRC had 508 assets on-
orbit, an increase of 27 percent from the end of 2020. In the last 5 
years the PRC has placed over 350 satellites into orbit.
    The PLA owns and operates about half of the PRC's ISR systems, 
which support monitoring and tracking of U.S. and allied forces 
worldwide, especially throughout the Indo-Pacific region. Moreover, the 
PLA is making improvements to existing systems, including space launch 
vehicles and satellite navigation constellations. To that end, China's 
Beidou navigation system is now globally operational. Operated 
collectively, these capabilities provide their military the ability to 
command and control their forces globally, enhance their situational 
awareness, and monitor and track force movements.
    The PRC has developed robust and capable space services, including 
space-based ISR. Today, the PRC's ISR satellites are capable of 
providing electro-optical and synthetic aperture radar imagery, as well 
as electronic intelligence and signals intelligence data. From 
September 2020 to September 2021, China placed 26 Yaogan-series Earth 
observation satellites into orbit, bringing the number of orbiting 
Yaogan-series satellites to 84. Beijing claims the Yaogan-series 
satellites are for remote sensing and electromagnetic environment 
detection services; however, these satellites could also be used for 
reconnaissance.
    The PRC actively seeks space superiority through space attack 
systems and is developing a broad complement of jamming and cyberspace 
capabilities, directed energy weapons, on-orbit capabilities, and DA-
ASAT missiles that can achieve a range of effects. PLA analysis of U.S. 
and allied military operations states that ``destroying or capturing 
satellites and other sensors'' would make it difficult for the PRC's 
opponent to use precision guided weapons. Moreover, PLA writings on 
doctrine and strategy suggest that reconnaissance, communications, 
navigation, and early warning satellites could be among the targets to 
attack, a strategy designed to ``blind and deafen the enemy.'' Notable 
PRC counterspace programs include their DA-ASAT. In 2021, the PRC 
continued development and testing activities to advance the DN-1 and 
DN-2 DA-ASAT weapons to further refine their space attack capabilities. 
Other potential counterspace capabilities include Shijian-17 and 
Shijian-21, which are satellites with robotic arm technology. Space-
based robotic arm technology could be used in a future system for 
grappling and disabling other satellites. The PRC also has multiple 
ground-based laser systems of varying power levels that could blind or 
irreversibly damage satellites. On July 16, 2021, the PRC conducted a 
suborbital test of a reusable space vehicle that can land in a similar 
fashion as an airplane. The PRC's space plane could carry a payload 
designed to disable or capture a satellite while in orbit. In October 
2021, the PRC launched the SJ-21, which the PRC Ministry of Defense 
described as a space debris mitigation technology, but its dual-use 
capability could have military applications.
Russia seeks to degrade U.S. space capabilities in order to prevail in 
        future conflicts
    Russia is an advanced and persistent threat to the United States, 
and its military is designed to maintain Russia's influence over the 
states within its sphere of theater and strategic influence. In 2021, 
Russia conducted a kinetic, DA-ASAT weapons test, exhibiting unsafe and 
irresponsible behavior in space. Further emphasizing our need for 
adequate space domain awareness capabilities, the November 15, 2021 
Russian DA-ASAT missile demonstration created nearly 1500 additional 
pieces of trackable space debris we must now monitor to ensure the safe 
operation of satellites and the ISS in that orbital regime. In 
partnership with the other combatant commands, their assigned component 
commands, the services (U.S. Army, U.S. Navy), and the Missile Defense 
Agency, USSPACECOM was able to rapidly characterize the nature and 
extent of the Russian DA-ASAT weapon and notify civil and commercial 
partners via standing reporting agreements for the safety of human life 
and satellites in low earth orbit. After admitting to the test, Russia 
received condemnation from the United States and our allies and 
partners in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, the 
Republic of Korea, Japan, the North Atlantic Council, the European 
Union, and the European Space Agency.
    Russia believes space is integral to winning modern wars, and it 
consequently reorganized the Russian 15th Aero Force in 2015 to 
incorporate space operations and counterspace capabilities. This new 
force is the Russian military command that conducts space launches and 
operates the ballistic missile early warning system, the satellite 
control network, and the space surveillance network. Russia's defense 
minister stated that the change was prompted ``by a shift in the center 
of gravity . . . toward aerospace sphere'' and to counter the U.S. 
Conventional Prompt Strike doctrine. Moscow concluded that gaining and 
maintaining space superiority has a decisive effect on the outcome of 
future conflicts and is developing space attack systems to hold U.S. 
and allied space assets at risk.
    Russia considers the U.S.'s dependency on space that enables our 
military and economic power as an exploitable vulnerability. As a 
result, Moscow has developed a suite of counterspace capabilities 
including electronic warfare and directed energy weapons that can deny, 
degrade, and disrupt communications, navigation, and space-based ISR. 
These counterspace capabilities enable Russia to deny, damage, and 
defeat U.S. space-based systems in order to reduce U.S. military 
effectiveness and control conflict escalation if deterrence fails. 
Russia has several ground-based, low-power lasers designed to blind 
U.S. missile warning and imagery satellites temporarily, as well as 
high-power lasers developed to damage other U.S. satellites 
permanently.
PRC-Russia Space Cooperation
    The PRC and Russia rapidly increased their space cooperation 
throughout 2021. In March, the PRC and Russia signed a memorandum of 
understanding to coordinate their moon exploration programs within the 
framework of a future PRC-Russian-led International Lunar Research 
Station. According to the China National Space Administration, the 
facility is intended for ``multi-discipline and multipurpose scientific 
research activities, including exploration and use of the moon, moon-
based observation, fundamental research experiments, and technology 
verification with the capability of long-term, unmanned operation with 
the prospect of subsequent human presence.''
    Russia possesses valuable experience from previous space program 
missions and operations. However, shortfalls in funding, qualified 
personnel, and other resource inadequacies have hampered continued 
Russian progress. Meanwhile, Beijing has a space program with ample 
financial and personnel resources, but lacks Russia's decades of 
operational space experience. Beijing and Moscow might try to combine 
their respective strengths on joint projects in some areas, especially 
as their relations with Western space partners wane and their common 
aversion of the United States drives them together. Consequently, while 
the PRC and Russia cooperate, the U.S. must continue to work with our 
allies and partners to protect our collective interests in space 
throughout all phases of strategic competition.
             building and maintaining competitive advantage
Improving the Ability to Provide Domain Safety, Security, and 
        Sustainability
    The PRC and Russia recognize the advantages afforded by our space 
systems and seek to change the dynamic by developing or refining their 
own space and counterspace capabilities. USSPACECOM is entrusted to 
protect and defend our nation's most critical space assets. The UCP 
assigns me the responsibility to ``protect and defend U.S. and, as 
directed, allied, partner, and critical commercial space operational 
capabilities.'' Executing this responsibility requires acknowledging 
the space operating environment changed and that we cannot operate as 
in the past. Thus, in partnership with the Missile Defense Agency and 
the other combatant commands and services, USSPACECOM is actively 
integrating non-traditional sensors such as the Army-Navy Transportable 
Radar Surveillance-2, Sea-Based X-Band Radar, and Aegis radar platforms 
under our Global Sensor Management umbrella to provide improved domain 
awareness. With respect to a potential conflict in space, the strongest 
tool for deterrence is our competitors' knowledge that the U.S. 
possesses both the means and resolve to protect and defend its space 
systems. A key component of reaching FOC for USSPACECOM is maturing 
Combined and Joint force solutions and appropriately posturing scalable 
combat capabilities to detect, attribute and respond to threats to 
U.S., allied, and partner space systems. This further enables a 
credible deterrence posture to preserve the full-range of options for 
the President and guarantee U.S. and allied freedom to operate in 
space.
    Non-kinetic, reversible solutions--to include space electronic 
warfare and cyberspace capabilities are critical in achieving space 
superiority and controlling conflict escalations. They directly affect 
our ability to deter malign behavior, and to complicate our 
competitors' ability to threaten our space assets. Of particular 
importance, non-kinetic engagements do not create debris. Layered, non-
kinetic effects are a critical force multiplier that directly affect 
the success of joint and allied forces.
    Scalable joint warfighting options--and the underlying policies 
that allow for the strategic messaging of these capabilities--are 
inherent across the competition spectrum. USSPACECOM in collaboration 
with our mission partners, continues to pursue increased resources and 
capabilities to provide space domain awareness for warning, assessment, 
and attribution; to provide space domain environmental monitoring, 
missile warning and tracking; and to protect and defend U.S., allied, 
partnered, and commercial space capabilities. In full compliance with 
our international legal obligations and commitments, the U.S. needs to 
develop and field resilient capabilities necessary to shape the 
strategic environment and advance our ability to protect and defend our 
nation. Such capabilities are essential to accomplishing the full range 
of my UCP responsibilities effectively, from deterring conflict to 
winning that conflict if necessary.
Maintenance and Hardening of Critical Infrastructure
    Our Area of Responsibility (AoR) begins 100km above the surface of 
the earth, and extends outward from the planet indefinitely. Our 
operating domain, however, extends around the globe itself, and 
encompasses all three elements of our space systems: the on-orbit 
asset, the link, and the ground segment. Of particular concern is our 
ground segment. Our satellites cannot fly and provide mission critical 
information to our joint forces without fully-operational mission 
control and relay stations on the ground. Similarly, our Missile 
Warning mission relies heavily on ground-based radar systems. None of 
these missions would be possible without the talent our people bring 
along with proper facilities and infrastructure.
    The facilities and infrastructure supporting USSPACECOM assets were 
not built when the command stood up; they were inherited, with many of 
the facilities and infrastructure reaching ages well beyond 60 years. 
It is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain the necessary power, 
heating, and cooling for our assets, let alone the resiliency, 
redundancy, survivability, and endurance required for our critical 
space missions. I am thankful for Congress's continued support to 
ensure these facilities can evolve to support USSPACECOM's no-fail 
missions.
    Commercial space systems are an essential component of U.S. 
critical infrastructure and vital to our national security. USSPACECOM, 
through the Department of Defense, will work with interagency partners 
and commercial space system stakeholders through the Critical 
Infrastructure Partnership Advisory Council framework to improve the 
security, resilience, and cybersecurity of commercial space systems.
Cyber Integration
    Digital superiority ensures that USSPACECOM and its subordinate 
components have resilient, reliable, and secure systems to command and 
control its forces worldwide, throughout all phases of conflict and in 
all domains. Countries like the PRC and Russia continually advance 
their agendas by launching persistent cyberspace attacks against both 
government resources and our defense industrial base. There is no space 
operation that does not rely on cyberspace. These two domains are 
inseparably linked - a failure with cybersecurity will almost certainly 
result in a failure in space. Therefore, current and future 
cybersecurity efforts must have the ability to secure and defend both 
our intellectual property and the products of those advancements--
namely space mission systems. As a result, cybersecurity funding is 
critical to maintaining dominance, not only in the space domain, but 
all domains.
    We must maintain laser focus on implementing ``zero trust 
architecture,'' to shift toward a more comprehensive IT security model 
allowing us to restrict access controls to networks, applications, and 
environments without sacrificing mission capability and performance. It 
will also allow us to capitalize on industry advancements in ML/AI to 
cyber-harden current and future systems. This hardening will improve 
our cyberspace - secure and defend posture - which will increase our 
decision-making speed against time-sensitive asymmetric threats across 
all domains. Moreover, our close coordination with, and the coherence, 
speed, and agility of National Security Agency/U.S. Cyber Command 
integration is critical to our ability to operate freely in space. To 
facilitate this, I embedded a Joint Integrated Space Team (JIST) at 
U.S. Cyber Command to help synchronize our planning efforts. Future 
years will require a steadfast resourcing approach to accomplish these 
objectives in order to ensure the U.S. can compete and mitigate 
evolving and expanding cybersecurity threats posed by our competitors.
    Maintaining digital superiority is an enormous part of our ability 
to outthink and outmaneuver our adversaries, and if necessary, prevail 
through sustained & comprehensive military space power. To this end, we 
optimized the command to leverage our architecture, data streams, and 
ML/AI applications fully. We aligned our information-related 
capabilities, with our Joint Cyber Center to more efficiently and 
effectively provide the command with information assurance while also 
enabling our efforts to achieve and sustain information advantage 
throughout the continuum of competition. As part of our internal 
realignment, we established a Data Council that synchronizes the 
Command's data enterprise to focus our requirements, prioritize data as 
a strategic asset, in order for the Command to achieve decision 
advantage. By harnessing current and emerging technologies, leveraging 
commercial innovations, and applying interoperable and secure data, we 
created an integrated platform for success. Continuous innovation for 
competitive advantage and investing in game-changing technologies 
enables both digital and space superiority.
Cyber Resources
    USSPACECOM is pursuing a number of initiatives centered on 
integrative platforms that maximize artificial intelligence, modeling, 
and simulation to inform space domain awareness, planning development 
and assessments, requirements development and leadership support. In 
short, this entails achieving decision dominance for digital 
superiority and establishing a campaign analysis capability to inform 
operations, planning, and requirements. Specifically, through this 
modeling and simulation initiative, the Command will develop a cutting-
edge lab environment to identify, analyze, and assess capabilities and 
requirements informing key warfighting processes and decisions through 
digital engineering tools. These tools will include visualization, 
analysis model management, model interoperability, workflow, 
collaboration, and customization of modeling techniques to help execute 
the Command's unified command plan responsibilities. To help reach FOC 
for this capability, USSPACECOM needs an integrated platform with fully 
trained modeling, simulation, and analysis personnel, with in-place 
hardware and software tools, with resources required to provide high 
performance computing across all classification levels. This lab will 
help USSPACECOM perform unbiased and timely assessments.
Exercises
    USSPACECOM has successfully demonstrated our capabilities and 
processes through coalition-integrated global exercises such as GLOBAL 
LIGHTNING 21 and PACIFIC SENTRY 21. We do this through a multi-service, 
multi-domain, and globally integrated approach to national security 
objectives, nested within the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff's 
Joint All-Domain operations directive.
    In 2022 and 2023, we will move from baselining the Joint Force's 
understanding of space capabilities to achieving a credible, globally-
integrated deterrence posture for joint and combined space operations 
appropriate to contend with space threats that are growing in both 
scope and lethality. In particular, USSPACECOM will conduct exercises 
that integrate with coalition partners, multiple combatant commands, 
and the Joint force. Examples of these exercises include SPACE THUNDER 
22, SPACE LIGHTNING 22 and SPACE CHALLENGE 22. In these exercises we 
will train with our Joint force, allies, and partners to protect and 
defend our space assets while providing effects in, from, and to space. 
Additionally in these exercises, USSPACECOM and its components will 
continue to develop and test capabilities to protect and defend on-
orbit assets and provide support to terrestrial forces. In future 
exercises, USSPACECOM will continue to integrate holistically across 
regions and domains to protect and defend U.S. and allied space 
interests globally.
Personnel
    USSPACECOM is a joint organization comprised of representatives 
from all military branches, Active and Reserve, the National Guard, 
Government civilians, and contractors. Currently, we have 45 percent of 
our authorized end strength in place, augmented by 50 Reserve and Guard 
personnel, and a 300-person contractor force to fill in the skill and 
capacity gaps.
Facilities
    As our workforce grows, so too do our requirements for dedicated 
facilities capable of hosting our command and control suites while 
providing the required level of physical and cyber security to protect 
our personnel and mission. I am proud to tell you that over the past 
year we have made significant progress thanks to strong Congressional 
support. Specifically, Combined Force Space Component Command moved 
into their new headquarters at Vandenberg Space Force Base. We will 
break ground on the new Combined Space Operations Facility at Schriever 
Space Force Base which will house the Joint Task Force Space Defense 
and the National Space Defense Center. Numerous other efforts to 
renovate and provide modernized facilities to the women and men of US 
Space Command have also been accomplished. I look forward to your 
continued steadfast support as progress continues on the Combined Space 
Operations Facility over the coming years.
           strengthen relationships and attract new partners
USSPACECOM's Role in Developing Tenets of Responsible Behavior in Space
    Interim National Security Strategy guidance calls for the U.S. to 
lead ``in promoting shared norms and forge new agreements on . . . 
space.'' As the United States Space Priorities Framework states, ``As 
space activities evolve, the norms, rules, and principles that guide 
outer space activities also must evolve. The United States will lead in 
the responsible, peaceful, and sustainable exploration and use of outer 
space.''
    In this regard, U.S. national security space operations will 
continue to comply with applicable international law and demonstrate 
leadership in both the responsible use of space and stewardship of the 
space environment. To accomplish this, USSPACECOM is also working with 
key stakeholders across the Department of Defense to develop specific 
DoD behaviors that further define the Secretary of Defense's five 
Tenets of Responsible Behavior in Space. The intent of these behaviors 
is that all Department of Defense space operators will follow them 
under normal circumstances and throughout competition in order to 
enhance the security, safety, stability, and long-term sustainability 
of the space domain and reduce the risk of miscalculation and 
escalation.
    USSPACECOM's efforts will enable Department leadership to inform 
broader U.S. positions regarding specific actions in space for upcoming 
interagency, commercial, and international engagements. As the 
Secretary of Defense has stated, ``it is incumbent on the Department of 
Defense to continue space leadership through demonstrating and 
acknowledging responsible behavior in space.''
USSPACECOM is strengthening alliances and attracting new partners, 
        while improving coalition capabilities and space domain 
        awareness
    Mutually beneficial alliances and partnerships provide a critical 
asymmetric advantage that our adversaries cannot match, contributing to 
our collective space security. Our partners bolster U.S. operational 
reach and increase our strategic flexibility in all domains. 
USSPACECOM's alliances and partnerships are a key strategic edge in the 
competitive environment of space. Strengthening and expanding our 
relationships into mature space defense partnerships allows for burden-
sharing that can decrease costs, accelerate coalition development, 
increase information sharing, and leverage partner capabilities to 
maintain a safe, secure, and sustainable space environment. To this 
end, we continue to expand our network of partner nations, 
international organizations, and commercial entities that bring 
situational awareness, mutual support, and technological innovation to 
the space enterprise. In the past year alone, we welcomed a General 
Officer from the United Kingdom as our Deputy Director of Strategy, 
Plans, and Policy, and added liaison officers from both France and the 
United Kingdom, and we have plans for more from several allied nations. 
Moreover, our allies and partners continue to prioritize the space 
domain, exemplified by both Germany and the United Kingdom establishing 
their own Space Commands in 2021.
    Throughout 2021, USSPACECOM expanded space related data sharing 
agreements, including new partnerships with Colombia, Greece, and 
Ukraine. To date, USSPACECOM has agreements with 30 nations and two 
intergovernmental organizations. Last year, I also met with the Indian 
Chief of Defense and Chief of Defense Staff to discuss our relationship 
on space operations, exercises, and information sharing. Additionally, 
USSPACECOM established a security cooperation program that assists 
partner nations in developing space capabilities and capacities. 
Coordination between USSOUTHCOM and USSPACECOM delivered tangible 
growth and development of the Brazilian, Chilean, Colombian, and 
Peruvian military space capabilities and produced strategic 
opportunities for the United States to counter problematic PRC 
influence and access in Latin America. USSPACECOM also reinforced and 
expanded partnerships through direct cooperation with more than 20 
international partners through the Global Sentinel campaign series. 
Global Sentinel improves multinational collaboration in the domain to 
support shared space domain awareness, and posture core international 
space operations expertise for future combined missions.
    Lastly, through the Command's Defense Personnel Exchange Program, 
we expanded agreements to support exchange and liaison personnel 
assignments with Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan and United 
Kingdom.
Global Integration with other combatant commands
    USSPACECOM continues to advance space integration with the other 
combatant commands and establish normalized relationships to 
coordinate, integrate, and synchronize operations extending beyond 
earthbound geographic areas of responsibility. To facilitate 
cooperation, interoperability, and unity of effort, USSPACECOM created 
Joint Integrated Space Teams (JIST) comprised of space professionals 
and intelligence planners working within every combatant command 
headquarters. These teams have evolved from a plans-focused effort to 
include operational integration, intelligence collaboration, and 
exercise support. These multi-functional JISTs provide space expertise 
to each combatant command's campaign plan and operation plans 
development, bolster security cooperation with space engagement 
activities, and integrate space capabilities to strengthen exercise 
planning activities. Additionally, JISTs coordinate, integrate, and de-
conflict global space operations in direct support of each combatant 
commander. To solidify this integration further, we also engaged in 
Warfighter Talks with United States Cyber Command and United States 
Space Force in 2021.
     integrating commercial interagency, and academic organizations
    USSPACECOM continues to support NASA's Commercial Crew Program for 
contingency rescue operations for crewed flights to and from the 
International Space Station as part of our Human Space Flight Support 
role. USSPACECOM is committed to assuring the safe exploration of space 
and is supporting NASA's planned lunar missions by providing crew and 
spacecraft recovery for the upcoming Artemis program and associated 
training events. To that end, USSPACECOM's space domain awareness 
capabilities also help support NASA's planetary defense mission to 
ensure we maintain space as a source of American innovation and 
opportunity.
    USSPACECOM also has partnerships with four academic institutions 
and over 100 commercial satellite owners, operators, and service 
providers. By providing advanced information and services to space-
faring partners, we display American leadership in the space domain, 
promote transparency in the responsible and professional use of space, 
and support the eventual transition of civil and commercial spaceflight 
safety services to the Department of Commerce.
    To address new challenges for space traffic coordination, from 
proliferated low earth orbit mega-constellations to intentional debris-
causing events, we fully support the Department of Commerce's immediate 
establishment of a space traffic management capability. This includes 
space situational awareness - understanding the proximity of space 
objects to other satellites, and warning of potential conjunctions. 
This partnership with Commerce will allow USSPACECOM to focus on the 
inherently military functions of our space domain awareness mission, 
especially characterizing objects and actions on orbit to identify 
potential threats.
    Additionally, the Command must improve its ability to tap into 
research and development, both through our government resources and our 
FFRDC partners in particular. Ongoing efforts within the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense Research and Engineering modernization strategies 
as well as work within the service laboratories, the Space Development 
Agency, Missile Defense Agency, Strategic Capability Office, Rapid 
Capability Offices, NASA, National Laboratories, and many others are 
absolutely essential to meet our critical challenges in maintaining our 
technological lead. We need to increase collaboration with the domestic 
and international commercial space industry in order to leverage their 
technological advancements, entrepreneurial innovation and investments 
to enable new and emerging capabilities at a decreased cost and an 
accelerated pace to counter threats to U.S., ally, and partner 
capabilities. We also need to improve our ability to develop rapid 
commercial space launch capabilities from multiple locations and 
integrate commercial space capabilities that provide both near and far-
term advantages.
                               conclusion
    USSPACECOM preserves U.S. freedom of action and provides the 
National Command Authority strategic options in the increasingly 
competitive space domain. The Command strives to attain FOC as soon as 
possible and continues to accelerate the pace of its operations to 
deter aggression; defeat adversaries; deliver space power; and defend 
U.S., allied, and partner interests. To do so, we must begin with the 
first task of increasing our space domain awareness, and request 
Congress's support to ensure we have the best possible capabilities to 
sense and evaluate the critical and increasingly complicated space 
environment. The Command achieved IOC last year, and has developed our 
roadmap and strategies for getting to FOC, deepening our relationships, 
and continuing to provide the most advanced space capabilities in the 
world. On behalf of the most critical asset in our command, the 
soldiers, marines, sailors, airmen, guardians, civilians, and families 
of USSPACECOM, thank you for your support in our mission to conduct 
operations in, from, and to space in order to ensure there is never a 
day without space.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Dickinson, and 
Admiral Richard, I concur with your assessment that we should 
reserve questions regarding Ukraine and Russia to the closed 
session, so I will do that.
    But let me begin with a question regarding the 
modernization of the triad and also the capabilities at the 
National Nuclear Security Administration. You have said in the 
past that we are at a point of no return, so can you please 
elaborate a bit, particularly with respect to Minuteman-III 
ICBMs [intercontinental ballistic missile] and the pit 
production capability at NNSA [National Nuclear Security 
Administration].
    Admiral Richard. Chairman, one, I am pleased to report, 
based on what services and agencies are reporting, that the 
overall recapitalization of the triad is on track. No margin is 
left, but right now all of those programs are proceeding the 
way that is necessary for them to deliver capability on time to 
meet my requirements.
    The weapons complex is a different story, and we have 
crossed one of those points of no return that I referred to 
previously in that we now know we will not get 80 pits per year 
by 2030, as is statutorily required, and even unlimited money 
at this point will not buy that back.
    So there is active work underway inside the Nuclear Weapons 
Council to understand exactly how much of a delay we are going 
to have, how much of it can be addressed by funding. The 
fundamental question we have to answer to Congress is to 
certify NNSA's budget.
    I want to make another point here, which is we are not 
mitigating this problem. We have shot all the mitigation to get 
us to this point. It is the fourth time the Nation has tried to 
recapitalize its pit production infrastructure. Now the 
question becomes how much damage have we done and what are the 
consequences of that, and we are working to better understand 
that, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Admiral. Also, we are 
working on a Nuclear Posture Review. I know you are deeply 
involved that. A key element is our declaratory policy, what is 
our intention in terms of use, in terms of our strategy. What 
is your assessment of our extended deterrence commitment to our 
allies, particularly in light of current hostilities, and any 
perception of changes in the declaratory policy?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, what I will offer is that I have 
testified to this committee and others as to my recommendations 
with regard to possible changes to declaratory policy. Those 
have not changed. That was a part of my input into the Nuclear 
Posture Review. As you know, that ultimately will be decided by 
the President.
    We received very clear feedback from the allies in terms of 
their opinion and the harmful effects on extended deterrence 
and assurance that changes would have. That is one factor of 
many to be considered.
    I do think right now we are getting a very vivid example, 
real-world, of the importance of extended deterrence and 
assurance, that if we want our allies to assist us in standing 
up to aggression we have to provide that assurance to them such 
that they are in a position go after our mutual goals.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral.
    General Dickinson, in some respects you have been promoted 
to Sensor Command as well as Space Command, because one of your 
first major tasks is to link sensors both in space, on the 
earth, and below the seas. Can you give us an idea of what it 
will take to perform this integration and where you might be 
now?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Chairman. So we have made a 
lot of progress over the last 2, 2\1/2\ years with identifying 
and incorporating sensors that we traditionally did not use for 
space domain awareness, missile warning, or missile defense in 
the global perspective. We have really identified radars such 
as TPY-2s around the world as well as BMD [ballistic missile 
defense], ships afloat, and Aegis Ashore sites as well. Our 
goal is to link these sensors together from a terrestrial 
perspective.
    We add to those. We add the UEWRs [Upgraded Early Warning 
Radar] that we have traditionally used for NC3 [Nuclear 
Command, Control & Communications] around the world for early 
warning and brought all those terrestrial capabilities to bear, 
if you will, in terms of understanding what we see in the space 
domain.
    In addition to that, we are linking our space-based assets 
in addition to that, bringing them into a common operating 
picture. We still have work to be done with regards to that, 
but we have made some good progress over the last 2 years, 2\1/
2\ years, and we are working towards that, the ultimate piece, 
where we have one operating picture that has those sensors 
fused into it. That really kind of pulls in some of the work 
that the Department of the Air Force is doing with JADC2 and 
some of those ABMS [Advanced Battlefield Management System] 
efforts that are going on right now.
    As you can imagine, Chairman, that has a massive data 
burden, if you will, that has to be properly synthesized, 
properly organized, making sure that it is cyber protected so 
that you have a database and you have information that is 
authoritative and available at the speed of relevance.
    Chairman Reed. The backbone of this is constant, 
uninterrupted, encrypted communication between all your assets. 
Is that one way to look at it?
    General Dickinson. That is one way to look at it, yes, 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Are we getting there?
    General Dickinson. We are getting there. We are getting 
there, and like I said, those are sensors, many of those 
sensors, TPY-2s, BMD, Aegis BMD ships, those sensors 
traditionally were not required or expected to have a 
capability looking up in the space domain, but what we are 
finding out is those exquisite radars do have capability. What 
capability we need to add to that we are identifying those gaps 
in requirements now at U.S. Space Command, and then putting 
that demand signal back onto those specific assets.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
    Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and 
General Dickinson and Admiral Richard, thank you very much for 
your service on a very, very vital part of our national defense 
strategy.
    Admiral Richard, the United States is currently engaged in 
negotiations with Iran on the Iran nuclear deal. Can you tell 
me, are you being consulted about those negotiations?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I am not, and that is 
appropriate. My forces do not play a role in terms of where 
that treaty and our overall desire to avoid Iran from getting a 
nuclear weapon.
    Senator Wicker. So your experience in making our nuclear 
policy work is not deemed important to those who are 
negotiating how we go forward with Iran?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, as you know I do not enter into 
treaties or agreements. That is a Department of State function. 
What I do is provide technical expertise. For example, I had my 
deputy commander as a part of the New START negotiation team so 
that that team had immediate access to any operational 
implications of what they were doing. While I am certainly 
available to do the same thing for those negotiations, 
currently that is not needed.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, I may not get an answer to this 
question but it is a question that is on the minds of Americans 
today. We are told, with relative certainty, that the talks are 
going on and that Russia is a part of the nuclear discussions 
between the United States and Iran about reentering this 
nuclear deal.
    Let me just say, Russia is led by the dictatorship and the 
kleptocracy of Vladimir Putin, a serial international war 
criminal. It is astonishing to me that they would be anywhere 
near the negotiating room in a process that might lead us to 
making concessions to Iran that we would not otherwise have 
made. You probably do not want to comment on that, I guess, 
Admiral.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, what I would look forward to 
commenting in the closed session, is an overall assessment of 
threats to the Nation and how we are going to defend and deter 
against those.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Let me leave it at that, but I would 
simply say, Mr. Chairman, and to my colleagues and to my fellow 
Americans that it is highly troubling, I think to most 
Americans, that Vladimir Putin would have anything at all to 
say about any decision the United States would make about what 
is best for our people and our national security, considering 
the fact that he is, without a doubt, a serial war criminal.
    The distinguished ranking member of this committee, Mr. 
Chairman, has suggested a question or two, which I would like 
to submit on his behalf.
    Russia has a nuclear arsenal larger and more modern than 
the United States, and currently threatened nuclear escalation 
during the invasion of Ukraine. Admiral Richard, we have heard 
for a long time how critical it is that we rebuild our Nation's 
nuclear deterrent, but we are still years away from fielding 
any new systems. How important is it that we accelerate the 
U.S. nuclear modernization plan as quickly as possible?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would offer three points on 
that, and again can go into more detail in the closed session. 
It is very clear that the absolute minimum that we need to do 
is to recapitalize the triad, the nuclear command and control, 
and the nuclear weapons complex.
    But there are two other questions we need to be asking 
ourselves along the way with that. The threats are changing in 
a way that we have not seen in 30 years. We do not know the 
endpoints of where either of those other two are going, either 
in capability or capacity. We are just now starting to work out 
what three-party stability looks like, what three-party 
deterrence dynamics works out.
    On top of that, we are learning a number of lessons in real 
time on how actual crisis deterrence works. It is different 
from steady-state deterrence that most of us have experience 
in.
    Those two questions, I think, need to be asked much more 
frequently than we have needed to in the past, followed with 
what is the capability, capacity, and posture we require from 
our strategic forces moving forward.
    Senator Wicker. Mr. Chairman, if you would indulge me for 
another moment with regard to a question that the ranking 
member has asked repeatedly and which deserves to be asked 
today.
    Admiral Richard, you have testified that you do not believe 
it is in the national interest of the United States to change 
our policy with regard to no-first-use or sole purpose nuclear 
declaratory policy. Would you explain why that has been, and is 
it still your position?
    Admiral Richard. Well, Senator, I have testified to that 
and my position is unchanged. That, of course, will be decided 
along with a number of other factors and we will see what the 
answer is in the Nuclear Posture Review. But fundamentally I 
can go into a lot longer answer, but is, one, your adversaries 
will not believe you so it does not enhance deterrence in any 
way, but your allies will believe you and it is highly 
corrosive to your extended deterrence and assurance 
commitments.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General 
Dickinson, I am concerned that our lack of international 
agreements barring conventional weapons in space has led to a 
space arms race that threatens our civil and commercial systems 
in space. How much of a role is SPACECOM playing in developing 
international norms about the use of weapons in space?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator, for the question. In 
my job as the SPACECOM Commander I work very closely with the 
Department of Defense, and in particular the policy folks in 
the Department of Defense in terms of working through those 
types of issues. What I have been charged to do, by the 
Secretary of Defense back in July, was he gave me a memo that 
outlined the five tenets of responsible behavior for the 
Department of Defense. Right now we are working through how we 
implement that within the department.
    But to your point is that with those tenets become our base 
plate, if you will, that we talk with the Department of 
Defense, and then subsequently they would start talking with 
Department of State.
    So we have kind of an indirect role that we start kind of 
from the combatant command up through the department in that 
regard. But those tenets of responsible behavior, there are 
five of them, and I think they are very good in terms of 
outlining what we would expect not only for the Department of 
Defense in terms of responsible behavior but for our allies and 
partners. We have had a lot of good discussions on that in 
several different forms.
    Senator Gillibrand. Given the lack of codified norms in 
space, what, in your view, constitutes an armed attack in the 
domain and how would you deal with a proportionate response?
    General Dickinson. Well, Senator, I would say that, you 
know, these tenets, I think, outline kind of what we would 
think as responsible behavior in space, and as we look through 
that, how do we make sure that we are able to understand that. 
I think the first thing we have to look at is how well can we 
understand what is happening in the space domain.
    As I mentioned in my opening remarks, my number one 
priority for the command, or top priorities is to be able to 
increase my space domain awareness so I can interpret and 
understand what those norms of behavior or those tenets are in 
space.
    Senator Gillibrand. The ``valley of death'' in acquisition 
references the transition from innovative, small-scale projects 
to full-scale funded programs, which is often stunted with 
budget challenges, risk mitigation, and integration problems 
leading to immense waste. Innovative technology and the ability 
to quickly field the warfighter in space is critical to 
matching China's competencies.
    In your view, is the use of other transaction agreements or 
OTAs by the DOD being effectively implemented, and do we need 
more emphasis on non-Federal acquisition regulation contracting 
solutions?
    General Dickinson. So Senator, in my role right now I am a 
customer, if you will, for the United States Space Force and 
some other agencies, and I would categorize myself as a 
demanding customer. I think we have to move very quickly in 
terms of building new and better capabilities for the space 
domain. I know that the Space Force and the Department of the 
Air Force are looking right now in terms of how do they 
streamline those processes in order to deliver capabilities to 
me on a much faster timeline.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Admiral Richard, JADC2, over 
the past several years DOD has worked on developing JADC2 
architecture to speed sensor to shooter responses and integrate 
communications across the services. In your view, how should 
DOD prioritize competing communications requirements for its 
future work, and what role, if any, will artificial 
intelligence play in future non-nuclear command and control 
decision-making systems?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would like to point out that, 
one, I am responsible for nuclear command and control from an 
operations requirements and systems integration piece, and in 
that responsibility I am very familiar with what JADC2 is doing 
in conventional command and control, and in fact was very 
pleased that a subset of what JADC2 is doing is for nuclear 
command and control. The two systems have to be overlapped to a 
great extent, so that we can have integration.
    So we are headed in the right path to make sure we take 
full advantage of the investments we are making in conventional 
command and control, while recognizing that certain portions of 
nuclear command and control have to serve at a higher standard 
than we ask regular command and control, and making sure we 
identify those and meet those requirements.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks for 
being here today with all the problems going on.
    General Dickinson, Space Command is designated a 
geopolitical command. How do you plan to synchronize efforts 
with other geographic commands in a time of conflict? I mean, I 
am sure you have worked on that?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. Absolutely. We do 
that every day. In particular, we have exercised it through 
many different exercises over the last couple of years. I think 
we have had five major exercises.
    But to your point, we do that each and every day, and the 
way we do that is when the U.S. Space Command was stood up in 
2019, we identified a gap, if you will, within each of the 
combatant commands in terms of space expertise. One of the 
first things we did as we stood up was we immediately started 
putting what we call joint integrated space teams, or JISTs, 
within each of the combatant commands, and we kind of started 
that with INDOPACOM, EUCOM, CENTCOM, and we are working through 
the other 10 combatant commands now.
    But these elements, at the beginning we thought would have 
a planning-only function within these commands. What we found 
out, through day-to-day operations and through exercises and 
real-world events, is that it is more than just planning. It is 
planning. It is operations. It is intelligence. It is the 
integration of those capabilities within each of the combatant 
commands that provides that regional combatant commander space 
expertise and the ability to leverage the space domain in order 
to meet their requirements for their either day-to-day 
operations or their op plans.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Pretty complex, especially 
being new.
    Admiral, last year you said, quote, ``For the first time in 
history the Nation is facing two potential strategic peer, 
nuclear-capable adversaries at the same time.'' But our nuclear 
posture, my understanding, has been not about two threats. So 
in your best military advice, should the U.S. consider changes 
to the size of its nuclear force in order to account for having 
now two peer threats?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, I have already repostured 
it, and I will be happy to give you some details of what we 
have done in the closed session. The answer is yes. We do not 
necessarily have to match weapon for weapon, right. The key is 
do you have enough capability to execute your strategy. But it 
is clear what we have today is the absolute minimum, and we are 
going to have to ask ourselves what additional capability, 
capacity, and posture do we need to do, based on where the 
threat is going. It is not all strategic. There is a 
significant class of theater threats that we are going to have 
to rethink potentially how we deter that.
    You have to deter them all the time. I do not get the 
luxury of having a priority to one and lesser to the other. You 
have to do them all at the same time. We are learning a number 
of lessons in crisis dynamics, because we have had so few times 
in our history we have been in that, that those will need to be 
applied too, sir.
    Senator Tuberville. How does the hypersonic missile, now 
that we are seeing online, how does that change us in terms of 
your thoughts on the time frame of a threat, how quick we have 
to respond?
    Admiral Richard. I look at hypersonics in two ways. One is 
the threat that it presents to us, and that fundamentally is a 
warning problem. In fact, the chairman mentioned seams opening 
up with the establishment of Space Command. Actually, it has 
worked the exact opposite of that. We mentioned the sensor 
commander, which is what I like to call it. Technically in DOD 
it is sensor manager, but sensor commander sounds better.
    The way Jim is integrating across missile defense, missile 
warning, and space situational awareness, he is producing a 
better outcome than what we had in the past, and I am actually 
getting a better service because of his efforts in that. That 
is defensive.
    Offensive, I will be ready to put online the first day any 
service makes it available a hypersonic capability. I have work 
for it right now. We have had requirements dating back to 2016 
and earlier, and I will put that to good use the first day any 
service makes it available in defense of the Nation.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Now that we do have 
hypersonics, just from my information, I am sure were changing 
protocol for our President, because it takes a pretty good 
while to get all the factors done to get to a point where a 
President can make a decision. Please tell me we are changing 
those protocols to answer a first attack.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, one, I think it will be important 
that as a hypersonic capability comes into the Department of 
Defense that we not label it as strategic or theater or 
tactical. We already have examples of platform. My bombers are 
an example. I can use it strategically down one command and 
control decision path that you talked about. I can use them 
conventionally down another. I can give them to a geographic 
combatant commander for that commander's use. I think we are 
going to want an equivalent, flexible, command and control 
structure for hypersonics.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before beginning my 
questions I wanted to respond to Senator Wicker. We have a 
national interest in Iran not obtaining a nuclear weapon. 
Russia has a national interest in Iran not obtaining a nuclear 
weapon. If, in this particular case, we have an identity of 
interest it would seem to me to make sense to have both parties 
at the table. We are not negotiating with Russia. We are 
negotiating with Iran. If they can add weight to those 
negotiations, as they did in the initial negotiations, it seems 
to me that serves our national interest.
    Let me turn to General Dickinson. ISR [intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance] is very important generally, 
but I want to talk about a war that is not Ukraine. It is the 
war that is killing our people in Maine, two a day, and I refer 
to the international trade of narcotics. The question is, do we 
have sufficient space assets that can provide ISR and 
monitoring of drug shipments that can assist us in interdicting 
those drug shipments and preventing the death of our people? 
This is a war that is killing Americans in a large number every 
single day, and to say we cannot afford to watch what is going 
on with those shipments, particularly from Latin America and 
the Caribbean, it seems to me is a dereliction of our duty to 
defend the country.
    General Dickinson. Senator, up front I would say that is a 
little bit maybe out of my purview as a combatant commander in 
the Department of Defense. However, I would say to you that 
watching the--to answer your question, I think when you look at 
the explosion in the commercial market in terms of ISR, and 
quite frankly some of the things that we have just seen in the 
Ukraine situation over the last couple of weeks with regards 
to--we are all watching TV and we see those images, you know, 
many of those, if not all of those are coming from a commercial 
company.
    [Additional information provided by General Dickinson to 
follow:]

    General Dickinson. ``Space-based ISR is an important 
portion of space operations, but some of the specific assets 
you described for counterdrug operations fall under the purview 
of agencies outside the DOD. While we partner extensively with 
those organizations on our respective missions and 
responsibilities, USSPACECOM's defined Area of Responsibility 
begins at 100km above mean sea level and extends out 
indefinitely. The national space-based ISR assets you described 
are governed by the U.S. Intelligence Community as described in 
Title 50 of the United States Code and Executive Order 12333 
(as amended). Although we do not directly control these 
capabilities, USSPACECOM is focused on their defense through 
Joint Task Force Space Defense and the National Space Defense 
Center.
    In direct support of the Drug Enforcement Administration, 
USSOUTHCOM, and other agencies on the front lines of countering 
the international narcotics trade, USSPACECOM provides enduring 
and secure satellite communications, overhead persistent 
infrared sensor coverage, and precision navigation and timing. 
When combined with overhead ISR platforms operated by the 
National Reconnaissance Office, a Title 50 organization, these 
capabilities ensure the ability of our partners to detect, 
track, and interdict narcotics traffickers from multiple points 
across the globe. As we continue building Joint Integrated 
Space Teams to all of the combatant commands to enable further 
alignment and mutual support, USSPACECOM is committed to 
ensuring USSOUTHCOM has the appropriate mix of space 
operations, planning, and intelligence expertise on site to 
continue the close integration of Department of Defense space 
capabilities into all facets of operations.''

    What is interesting is how much that commercial market has 
expanded, exploded if you will, to provide us additional 
capabilities. In other words, I think we have a big enough 
commercial market that can satisfy that demand signal, and 
really for us, in U.S. Space Command, with that augmentation we 
are able to use our military type of ISR assets to do some 
other things.
    Senator King. I hope you are right, but the word that 
disturbed me in your answer was one of your first words, which 
was ``not in my purview.'' That is my problem. It does not seem 
to be in anybody's purview. We have got DEA [Drug Enforcement 
Administration], we have got DHS [Department of Homeland 
Security], we have got the military, and we have got people 
dying. I would hope that you would consider discussing this 
question to me. If this were an attack by another adversary on 
our country that was killing thousands of people a day, it 
would be within your purview. I am suggesting it is within your 
purview, and I hope that you will review that.
    Let me ask a second question on your satellite capability. 
There has been a lot of discussion about resilience and 
redundancy. How are we in terms of cyber resilience, in terms 
of our space assets, blocking of signals, stealing of 
information coming from satellites?
    General Dickinson. Senator, so when we stood up the Command 
in 2019, we made a very deliberate effort to make sure that we 
did not add cyber onto the equation as we grew. We built it in 
from the very beginning as we looked at our organization. From 
an organizational perspective we have got cyber expertise and 
capabilities built within the Command that is in particular in 
the headquarters.
    So in the headquarters that I mentioned I have got about 
1,000 people now. Within that headquarters itself I have got--I 
just established my joint cyber cell within the Command that is 
under my J3 operations directorate. We have got an integrated 
planning element from Paul Nakasone, CYBERCOM, embedded with 
us. Two of my five service components are dual-hatted as not 
only Space Command but also CYBERCOM. So that is kind of the 
structural piece.
    Senator King. I would urge you to add to that structure a 
red team. Ask Paul Nakasone to attack it and see how it goes. 
Admiral Richard, I would make the same suggestion.
    Admiral Richard, in the view seconds I have left, a major 
sort of strategic question. How would we respond, under our 
current nuclear posture, to a Russian use of a tactical nuclear 
weapon in Ukraine?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would be happy to answer that 
question in closed session.
    Senator King. I thought that might be your answer, and I 
will ask the question in closed session. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, gentlemen, 
first of all let me begin by saying thank you for your service 
to our country.
    Admiral Richard, I would like a clarification if I could 
with regard to Senator Gillibrand had asked a question 
concerning command and control, and specifically command and 
control between conventional weapon systems versus command and 
control for nuclear weapon systems, and you mentioned an 
overlay of the two with regard to JADC2. Could you clarify a 
little bit the separation between the two that I think we 
always try to keep, between command and control of conventional 
versus nuclear weapon systems?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, we do not always try to 
keep separation between conventional and nuclear command and 
control. We cannot. We never have and we will never be able to 
achieve that. Strategic platforms are still platforms. They 
have to interoperate with other platforms to accomplish their 
mission, even for simple deconfliction purposes. So one, we 
have to be able to tell an airplane where the other airplanes 
are, even if they are not on a similar mission. So you have to 
have some overlap to do that.
    Two, it is to our benefit, where appropriate, to use our 
conventional command and control to add redundancy and 
resiliency to our nuclear command and control. You could not 
afford to build two completely separate systems if we tried to 
achieve that in the real world.
    The final piece, though, there is always a piece of nuclear 
command and control that has to go to a higher standard. 
Nuclear command and control has to be able to withstand the 
worst threats that we can postulate against it. Regular command 
and control does not, and that is why we separate it out. We 
have always done that, and we are going to do it to an 
appropriate degree going into the future.
    Senator Rounds. The reason for my question, with regard to 
clarification, is that I know that we are very sensitive to 
where other nations may try to impact our ability to command 
and control our nuclear weapons systems. We have the same 
concern about interacting with other nations' command and 
control.
    Can you talk a little bit about the clarification between 
the two in terms of the interest in making sure that others are 
not put on alert because it appears that we are impacting 
theirs, and the same reason that we would have a concern about 
them impacting our ability, and what that does with regard to 
stability?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first I think it is important 
that I say here--and I would be happy to go into a lot more 
detail in closed session--the cause of, I would call it 
apprehension and valid concern over the security of our nuclear 
command and control, particularly the cybersecurity, is our 
Nation's nuclear command and control has never been in a 
stronger, more protected, more resilient lineup than it is 
today, based on some very good work operationally done over the 
last 6 to 8 months, and I would love to go into more detail as 
to why I say that.
    As to your concerns about the strategic implications of 
threatening another nation's nuclear command and control, and 
vice versa, that is very well understood. That is very well 
factored in as we think through the overall effects that we are 
trying to achieve.
    I do want to put one more caution out in terms of, we tend 
to use terms, at least back at STRATCOM, in strategic 
stability. Our basic definitions of strategic stability are 
probably out of date. They date back to the Cold War. They are 
two-party dynamics pieces. They tend to think of nuclear as the 
only major effect that has to be considered. When you move this 
into a three-party problem it is a completely different set of 
effects, dynamics that I think we need a lot of work to get 
into to understand how that works.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. General Dickinson, in our 
ability to achieve and maintain a competitive edge in space 
relies heavily on a rapid capability and development in 
eliminating acquisition bottlenecks. Can you discuss how you 
are partnering with commercial and interagency organizations to 
expand our space capabilities at the pace that we need them to 
be expanded, and what steps have you taken to improve your 
acquisition process in order to onboard new capabilities at a 
faster pace?
    General Dickinson. So that has really been one of the 
highlights with the Command over the last couple of years is 
really the partnership we have with the commercial industry. 
Two examples of that. One is the two main areas that we work 
closest with the commercial partners right now, but we are 
expanding that, is satellite communications and the other one 
is space domain awareness. Satellite communications capability 
with our commercial industry has really been out at Vandenberg 
Space Force Base for years, but has expanded. We have got 10 
commercial partners right now as part of our commercial 
integration cell out at Vandenberg Space Force Base, and that 
is a great relationship in terms of how do we expand our 
capabilities and capacity in the satellite communications 
domain or enterprise and how we do that.
    The second one is space domain awareness, and really that 
has been a rather new, about a 1\1/2\ or 2 years old. We have 
got a cell in Colorado Springs that works for my Joint Task 
Force Space Defense and a commercial integration cell that 
really what it does is it provides to us what commercial space 
domain awareness capabilities can see around the world. So they 
are looking up, looking in the space domain for us, telling us 
what they see, and we utilize that in addition to what we are 
doing with our exquisite sensors.
    So the integration of those two enterprises, space domain 
awareness and SATCOM, has been very, very powerful. It is 
growing so much now that we have had to develop a new 
commercial framework by which we can bring those partners on 
board and expand it even more.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you to each of you for your service, 
and Admiral Richard, let me begin with you. You talked about 
how some of our defense concepts are a little bit outdated in 
your realm because they were based upon kind of a two-party 
dynamic and now we have to grapple with a three-party dynamic. 
I think it is even more complicated than that because two of 
the three parties are now cooperating in ways that they had 
not.
    I have often asked questions in this committee and in the 
Foreign Relations Committee about growing cooperation between 
Russia and China, and usually folks on your side of the table 
tell me that I do not need to worry about it much because there 
is so much historical animosity between Russia and China that 
they are not likely to cooperate. I think we are finding that 
actually not to be the case. Whatever the past is, they are 
cooperating a lot more now.
    So I would like you to each tell the committee in your 
domain how are you planning to take into account the increasing 
cooperation between Russia and China in either the STRATCOM or 
SPACECOM areas?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first I would say I am not going 
to tell you that I am not concerned about that. I am very 
concerned about what opportunistic aggression looks like. I am 
worried about what cooperative aggression looks like, and so, 
one, this gets back to I have to deter all of them, all of the 
time, which means every day we are thinking about their 
decision calculus and what we have to do to influence so that 
basically they say, ``Not today.''
    Right now you have to look at what is happening in one 
place and then walk over and see what that does to change 
decision calculus and change your messaging potentially, change 
your posture, and that is just in the opportunistic frame. Then 
do you have the plans ready to understand what cooperative 
looks like? So we do that every day, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. Great. General Dickinson?
    General Dickinson. Senator, we look at it each and every 
day, just as Admiral Richard does, but in the space domain we 
just have to look and see how much more capability development 
that they have done just on orbit. We can go back to November 
to look at the Nudol tests, and then as I mentioned in my 
opening statements, the SJ-21, in particular.
    So just individually, the growth of their capabilities on 
orbit is of concern. When you look at from the civil 
perspective, the Chinese and the Russians have entered into a 
lunar station agreement that they are going to build a station 
on the moon. So it is not just the military that we are looking 
at carefully. It is also kind of their civil piece as well, by 
both those nations.
    Senator Kaine. General Dickinson, you have segued into my 
next question, the civil dimension. There has been news 
recently that was sort of interesting news, kind of in a way 
positive news. Elon Musk has been getting some press for his 
role in providing ground stations and internet coverage to 
Ukraine with the Starlink satellite connection. So that is 
positive. Russia has been trying to jam the signals and block 
coverage. That has made me wonder, hmm, there are non-state 
actors in space too that can enter into contested environments. 
Describe the legal framework for commercial capability in 
space, and the SPACECOM war game scenarios where private actors 
become involved in contested situations.
    General Dickinson. We do look at that, Senator, and really, 
to begin with, I think what we are seeing with Elon Musk and 
the Starlink capability he is providing is really kind of 
showing us what a mega-constellation or proliferated 
architecture can provide in terms of redundancy and capability. 
But to your point, we work very closely in our commercial 
integration cells with that very issue.
    Senator Kaine. Admiral Richard, one last question for you. 
I met last week with General Von Ovost of TRANSCOM, and we 
talked about future tanker requirements. It is my understanding 
that the airborne tankers that support the bomber leg of the 
triad have a varying degree of EMP, electromagnetic pulse 
hardening, to include the KC-46. So talk to us about STRATCOM's 
role in shaping requirements for future tanker programs to 
ensure that EMP hardening is part of the DNA.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, you hit on a key point, as I am 
one of the customers of the tanker fleet, and in that I have 
certain requirements, EMP protection, electromagnetic pulse, 
being one of those. So one is to clearly articulate the 
requirements. Two is go see what we can do in terms of 
employment of our force to reduce that demand signal. A great 
example I would point to, and I would give credit to the Air 
Force, is the re-engining of the B-52s. The engines on those 
date back to the '60s and they burn a lot of gas. Re-engine, 
less fuel required, less tanker demand. What other efficiencies 
can we achieve while still maintaining the flexibility and the 
signaling capability of the air leg, which is one of its prized 
attributes.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you. I appreciate. Thank you, Mr. 
Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Since a quorum is present I would now ask the committee to 
consider the following civilian nominations: the Honorable 
Robert P. Storch to be Inspector General of the Department of 
Defense, Dr. Lester Martinez Lopez to be Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Health Affairs, Mr. Christopher J. Lowman to be 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Sustainment, Mr. Peter 
Beshar to be General Counsel, Department of the Air Force, the 
Honorable Frank R. Parker to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy 
for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, Dr. Agnes G. Schaefer to be 
Assistant Secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs, and Mr. Frank Calvelli to be Assistant Secretary of 
the Air Force for Space Acquisition.
    We have reviewed these nominations with Senator Inhofe and 
he concurs. Is there a motion to favorably report these seven 
nominations to the Senate?
    Senator Wicker. So moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    [Multiple seconds.]
    Chairman Reed. All those in favor, say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Chairman Reed. The motion carries. Thank you very much.
    Now let me recognize Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for being here and for your service.
    Admiral Richard, have you recognized any tangible 
operational changes resulting from Putin's announcement that 
they need to increase nuclear readiness, and have you seen any 
posture changes on the part of Russia or the PRC with respect 
to that?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would like to go into detail in 
answer to that question inside the closed session, but if you 
will allow me to make a broader point that I think relates.
    The scenarios that we are seeing right now, potential 
escalation, limited unclear use in a conventional aggression 
scenario, STRATCOM has been preparing for this for years, along 
with other combatant commands. General Dickinson's command has 
been doing that, and so we have rewritten deterrence dynamics 
theory over the years. We have new analysis that we are using. 
We got criticized for that. We got told that it was highly 
improbable or somehow self-serving for us to think our way 
through this, but we ignored that such that to this point 
nothing has happened that we did not anticipate, we had not 
thought about, and had not prepared for.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you for that. With Belarus indicating 
their willingness to have nuclear assets deployed within their 
territory, how does that rethink our forward-deployed 
capabilities in Europe?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, again I respect your indulgence 
to allow me to answer that in closed session.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. General Dickinson, I want to 
talk a little bit about end strength. I think you are somewhere 
around 45 percent of goal, augmented by Reserves, civilians, 
and Guard, but you are relatively new. So what is right 
timeline to get up to the desired end strength, and what kind 
of strategies are you putting together to make sure that we get 
there?
    General Dickinson. Yes, thank you for the question, 
Senator. You are correct. We are at 45, 50 percent strength 
with an augmentation of contractors that get us over, like I 
said in my opening statement, to about 1,000. So our strategy, 
quite frankly, is to get to the end strength as quickly as I 
can. We have worked with the Department very carefully in terms 
of how do we bring manpower from certain fiscal years back to 
the left so that I can be at a reasonable strength here in a 
couple of years.
    But that is where we are going, and what we are trying to 
do right now is attract that talent that we need in the 
command, and that is both a balance between civilian as well as 
military. The civilian force that I have is Department of the 
Air Force civilians, and we are working very closely right now 
in how to attract them. We have got some programs out there in 
terms of internship programs, to bring young adults into the 
command with STEM [Science, Technology, Engineering and 
Mathematics], technical type of degrees.
    I have been very pleased with the military presence that we 
have had within the commands from all the services. The two 
biggest services that I have represented in the command right 
now is, quite frankly, as you would expect, the Space Force and 
the Army. Bringing them into a joint command, building them to 
full operational capability, utilizing exercises, and, quite 
frankly, real-world operations. So we have had a couple of 
events over the last couple, 3 years, if you will, that have 
really driven us to be very proficient in what we do.
    I will just take the Nudol event, for example, back in 
November. That, for us, when I declared initial operational 
capability last August, was a direct result of having that 
talent and expertise within the command, rehearsed through 
processes and procedures and techniques that the joint world 
knows and recognizes, to the point where we can actually 
provide a strategic effect for our national-level leaders. That 
is really the strategy going forward. Right now we have got an 
initial operational capability which means we can provide those 
effects, but we are building out the capacity within the 
command so that I can do that more robustly.
    Senator Tillis. Do you have sufficient authorities to be 
able to get to where you need to be with end strength or 
resources?
    General Dickinson. I do. I have the right authorities right 
now.
    Senator Tillis. Admiral Richard, just really quickly, with 
advances, particularly with respect to China and hypersonics 
and other capabilities, is our current strategy mapping up 
against their emerging threats, or do we need to rethink maybe 
how we counter threats 10 years, 20 years from now, 
differently?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I am conscious of the fact that 
the Nuclear Posture Review and national defense strategies have 
not been promulgated, but I am confident that we are going to 
have a good strategy. The question is going to be capability, 
capacity, and posture, and to acknowledge those will not be 
static and we are going to have to think through those much 
more frequently than we have needed to in the past because of 
the very threats you are referring to.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis.
    Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Richard--
and good morning to you both. Thank you for being here, Admiral 
and General. Admiral Richard, we have all been following 
reports of Russian attacks on Ukrainian nuclear plants and 
other very concerning developments in this conflict, and Russia 
is now targeting civilians, probably out of frustration. This 
should be--you know, I think is viewed as escalatory. It is 
clearly a war crime.
    I am concerned about further escalation, and I understand 
the United States military has established a hotline or direct 
communication channel with the Russian military, particularly 
because Russia media and cyber actors have sought to spread 
disinformation, making reliable information hard to assess in 
real time. It is my view that this direct military-to-military 
communication is critical to avoid misunderstandings that could 
lead to a dangerous military escalation between two nuclear 
powers.
    As this committee knows well, in a crisis decision time, 
time to respond to a nuclear threat is only a matter of 
minutes. Admiral Richard, I understand the hotline will be run 
out of United States European Command. Can you elaborate on how 
STRATCOM will remain in the communication loop of this hotline?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, a couple of points if I could. 
Actually, you do not have to respond to threats, nuclear or 
otherwise, in minutes. In fact, I am not allowed to put the 
President in the position that he only has--or her--minutes to 
respond. So I want to make sure everybody understands, this 
Nation always has the time to make a fully informed decision on 
any action that it takes.
    Second, for strategic purposes, we have long had hotlines 
between the United States and Russia. They date back to the 
Cold War. They are still there, they are tested every day, and 
those are still available to us. We are a long way from needing 
to use anything like that right now. I will go into more detail 
on the rest of your questions in closed session, sir.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you.
    General Dickinson, we are currently seeing reports of 
commercial satellite systems, you know, very effectively being 
used, you know, information for the Ukrainians, also for us, 
and these satellite systems are likely to be of interest to 
Russia too and how should they ultimately counter them in the 
context of this invasion. Russia's and China's anti-satellite 
capabilities have received a lot of attention in years with a 
couple of anti-satellite tests, one before one of my space 
shuttle launches in around 2008.
    But I want to spend a little time today discussing Iranian 
and North Korean anti-satellite capabilities that tend to get 
less airtime, especially North Korea, who obviously has an 
intercontinental ballistic missile capability. Iran hopes to 
develop one. One concern is that ICBMs can be used to create a 
debris cloud in low-Earth orbit, and that could impact U.S. 
satellites.
    General Dickinson, can you expand on how United States 
Space Command is viewing both the North Korean and the Iran 
capabilities, and how do you assess their willingness to target 
and impact United States satellites in space?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. First of all I would 
just say that you identify a big problem, if you will, within 
the space domain. We just saw it a couple of months ago when 
the Russians destroyed--they had conducted their Nudol test 
that left about 1,500 pieces of debris in low-Earth orbit that, 
quite frankly, we are tracking every day now and we will 
continue to track that for years to come.
    To your example, back before your flight, when the Chinese 
did that test, we still track objects today from that very test 
that, quite frankly--and sir, you are an expert on this--could 
be threatening to the International Space Station. We do a lot 
of work each and every day very closely with NASA [National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration] to make sure that we look 
at that and make sure that the astronauts on the International 
Space Station are safe.
    With regard to both Iran and North Korea, I would like to 
expand on that, if I could, in the closed session.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you, and I yield back the 
remainder of my time.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to each of 
you I thank you for your service and thank you for being here 
today with our questions.
    Admiral Richard, I do want to come to you first. I fully 
understand that there are sensitive matters that affect our 
government and STRATCOM, and we all understand that many times 
public comment is not appropriate or productive. However, we 
have to keep in mind that silence is also a message, and a very 
strong one, and you have been an excellent, outspoken commander 
of STRATCOM, and you have been a wonderful advocate in the 
public venue for why we need to modernize our nuclear forces. I 
think you have been the commander we need at the time that we 
need him, and we thank you for that.
    So I am disappointed by the lack of clarity on answers that 
you have today, and many of these are appropriate in an 
unclassified sphere, and I was disappointed in the weekend's 
cancellation of the Minuteman-III test, because we only have 
four of those a year, and I was disappointed to learn that 
STRATCOM has put out a schedule of tests to consider others for 
cancellation.
    I appreciate--I think we all do--that you have to be 
careful, especially at a time like this, because of the message 
that our actions could send to Moscow. But this message of 
silence coupled with inaction, in my opinion, does not project 
one of strength. It is not a message of deterrence. I would 
probably venture to guess in your opinion, your professional 
opinion, it would question the judgment of such actions.
    We have to be ready to respond to any threat, any place, 
any time, and I think that we are facing two nuclear-capable 
adversaries at this point. So let us say speaking 
hypothetically, entirely hypothetically, what message does 
cancellation of a prescheduled, routine test send to our 
adversaries?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, let me offer first that the test 
has been rescheduled, not cancelled, and it will be important 
for us to go do that test. I want to acknowledge up front that 
is an Air Force service weapons test. It is done under their 
authorities.
    But it is very important to me, and to the Air Force. That 
is a 50-year-old rocket that we are talking about, and as it 
ages, our ability to understand its performance is very 
important both for my operational planning as well as the 
effort the Air Force has to have to sustain it until we can get 
a replacement system.
    My fundamental recommendation is that we maintain our 
normal set of operations. Day-to-day we very carefully craft a 
series of operations, activities, and other evolutions that are 
designed to show our readiness, it is designed to maintain that 
readiness, and it is designed to give us confidence in our 
forces. In general, that is my recommendation under these 
conditions.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Then let me take it this way with 
you. Then what impact does delay or reduction in funding, how 
does that affect the modernization and the implementation 
efforts that you need?
    Admiral Richard. Ma'am, any delay or interruption in 
funding is one of the most corrosive things that we can do in 
order to enable those programs to stay on schedule such that we 
do not have a diminishment in the capabilities required to 
execute our strategy. So not only does it have a practical 
effect in terms of potential delays and the dates that we can 
have these systems, it is also a signal of a lack of will on 
our part, fundamentally to defend ourselves.
    Senator Blackburn. So you would see that as diminishing and 
not improving our abilities, capabilities?
    Admiral Richard. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. General Dickinson, I do have some 
questions for you but I am running out of time. I am going to 
send these to you for answer, because I want to explore a 
little bit more the commercial opportunities that you have and 
how we can build off of some of the commercial advancements 
that are going to affect the space and your command.
    So thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Warren, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
Admiral Richard and General Dickinson for being here.
    So Admiral Richard, last year you testified before this 
committee that you hope the nuclear policy review would include 
looking at the wide array of capabilities we have in our 
arsenal, including space and cyber. In other words, our ability 
to deter adversaries is not only about nuclear weapons that we 
have, it is also about conventional weapons and other areas of 
strength. It sounds like the adoption of integrated deterrence 
that will be part of this review does precisely that.
    Was Strategic Command fully consulted and able to fully 
participate in the Nuclear Posture Review process?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first I want to endorse the idea 
of integrated deterrence, that STRATCOM and previous commanders 
have been calling for this, the idea that you use every 
available instrument, beyond the military, to best deter your 
opponent and resolve political issues at the lowest possible 
level of violence. So we are strongly in support of that.
    Second is to understand, though, that nuclear deterrence, 
in particular, is a part of integrated deterrence. They are not 
different things. In fact, if you do not have the nuclear piece 
inside of it the rest of integrated deterrence does not work 
because your opponent might be able to----
    Senator Warren. Excuse me for interrupting, Admiral. I 
understand this. I am just asking a question about process. Was 
Strategic Command fully consulted and able to fully participate 
in the Nuclear Posture Review process?
    Admiral Richard. STRATCOM was fully involved in the Nuclear 
Posture Review process up through the Secretary of Defense. I 
had plenty of opportunity to tell the Secretary personally. We 
led portions of the Nuclear Posture Review. But beyond that, 
ma'am, I do not know.
    Senator Warren. Okay. Now as we discussed last year, the 
Nation's nuclear policy is up to the President and the 
Secretary, and the goal of the Nuclear Posture Review is to 
rigorously examine options to determine the proper role for 
nuclear weapons in our national security strategy. So, Admiral 
Richard, do you agree that the Nuclear Posture Review 
benefits--let me put it this way, from hearing a wide variety 
of views to make sure that we are developing the smartest 
possible policy?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes, and my responsibility inside 
that is to offer the operational implications to each of those 
wide range of views.
    Senator Warren. Okay. Do you think our nuclear policy 
should be informed by objective technical analysis?
    Admiral Richard. Ma'am, we provide a lot of that objective 
technical analysis.
    Senator Warren. So you think it should be informed by 
technical analysis and a broad variety of views. We are in 
agreement on that.
    Admiral Richard. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Warren. Good. You know, I am looking forward to 
reviewing the Nuclear Posture Review when it is released, but 
the reason I am focused on this is because I have concerns 
about the process that produced it. Over the past year, the 
Pentagon has repeatedly pushed out and obstructed efforts to 
have more rigorous debates and analysis to support this review, 
and I just want to give one example of this.
    The ground-based strategic deterrent is a $264 billion 
program. I requested that DOD contract with a respected group 
of outside experts to determine the technical feasibility of 
extending the Minuteman-III program instead of just buying 
expensive new weapons. I was then told that the DOD did not 
have the contract authority to do so, and that is just simply 
not true. It appears DOD simply did not want to do a study that 
might show that a massively expensive nuclear spending program 
was not actually necessary.
    Now my view on this is no secret. We must reduce the role 
of nuclear weapons in our defense strategy. It is dangerous and 
it results in a staggering amount of spending, more than $630 
billion over the next decade. But no matter what you believe 
about these weapons, our nuclear policy should be developed by 
asking tough questions, not formulated in an echo chamber.
    So thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, can I suggest that I look forward 
to the Nuclear Posture Review being published so you can see 
exactly how and what it concluded. But I will add, thank 
goodness we have ICBMs right now. I will explain more in closed 
testimony.
    Senator Warren. So I am glad that you are looking forward 
to seeing the report. As I said, I am as well. But my whole 
point is that if we do not have a process that includes 
alternative points of view, a widespread point of view, then 
the product that comes from it is too likely to come from an 
echo chamber instead of being fully informed, and that is what 
troubles me.
    Admiral Richard. Yes, ma'am.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, 
gentlemen, very much for being here today.
    Unfortunately, Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine has 
really reminded us of the threat that is posed by our 
adversaries and threat to our own international stability. We 
certainly cannot take peace for granted, so again, thank you 
very much for your service to our Nation.
    If we could go back a little bit, you know, I understand 
some of the discussion that is here, but if you could again, 
Admiral Richard, just please reiterate why we cannot extend the 
life of the Minuteman-III.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, there are a couple of reasons and 
there is one that I probably have not emphasized enough in my 
previous testimony. Any of our deterrence systems have to be 
able to operate in the threat environment that they face. 
Fundamentally, they have to be able to pace the threat. 
Minuteman-III, because it has been extended so long, has 
basically no margin left to be able to pace improvements in 
other nations' defensive systems. That is on top of the cost 
benefit that we would achieve by changing to a new system, 
modern, well-designed, lower operating cost.
    But I want to come back to, for any of these weapons 
systems, with Minuteman-III being the best example, it has to 
be able to pace the threat in order for it to deter anybody.
    Senator Ernst. Pacing that threat but then also safety 
implications as well. You mentioned that the Minuteman-III is 
50 years old, but certainly there are ways that we can 
modernize and not only impact safety implications going forward 
but also workforce implications. Maybe could you speak a little 
bit to that as we are going through modernization efforts and 
how we would be able to, as well, keep pace with the technology 
necessary to upgrade and modernize?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, a common issue here is, it is not 
just about modernizing a rocket. It is the entire weapon 
system. So a key attribute the GBSD will bring is a much-
improved nuclear command and control system for that particular 
piece. That alone is another significant reason that we have to 
go do that.
    You mentioned workforce. The GBSD--and I will defer to the 
Air Force for the specifics--GBSD requires a lot less number of 
people to operate it because it has modern methods of 
maintenance and sustainment. Remember, Minuteman-III was not 
designed to be modernized at all. The Air Force did heroics to 
reverse-engineer the ability to do that on a weapon system only 
designed to be in service for 10 years. So there are a number 
of these benefits the Nation will achieve if we modernization 
the intercontinental ballistic missiles.
    Senator Ernst. I appreciate that. You have also spoken to 
the fact that not having a stable appropriation, stable budget, 
how that has impacted negatively the modernization effort. So I 
just wanted to reemphasize that, that we really need to do our 
work as Congress and make sure that we get back into regular 
order.
    So, Admiral, what is your assessment of the capability and 
ability of our domestic supply and production chains to produce 
our nuclear cores?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, one, it would be best for me to 
defer the specifics of an answer to that to the people that 
actually buy this stuff. That is the services and the agencies. 
But bottom line is that is a very big concern that we have let, 
across the board, our industrial base atrophy, and we will need 
to take steps to restore capability and capacity in any number 
of areas--weapons complex, nuclear command and control, 
delivery systems--such that we have a robust, resilient defense 
industrial base that is able to produce the capabilities that 
commanders like I will have to use to defend us.
    Senator Ernst. Just in the remaining time, I really 
appreciate that, the need to really modernize out there. I know 
there are a number of different opinions on this committee as 
we come to nuclear strategic deterrence, but the fact that we 
should have regular order in the way we do appropriations so 
that we can continue to modernize, if that is the directive 
that comes from this committee and from the Administration. But 
then also the workforce that goes with that as well. I think 
there are a lot of issues that comes to this discussion today. 
We are just very grateful to have you there and working on 
these issues with us.
    So with that I will yield back. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Admiral 
Richard, General Dickinson, thank you both for your testimony 
this morning.
    General Dickinson, I want to follow up on the conversation 
that has come up in several questions around the proliferation 
of debris in space. It is my understanding that the current 
collision screening notification criteria were developed over a 
decade ago. Is there an effort underway now to update that 
criteria, and who is in charge of that, and when do you expect 
that to happen?
    General Dickinson. Thank you for the question. Just to the, 
right up front, if I could just talk about the size of the 
debris and how much that is growing, just to give you a 
statistic or a feel for that. Back in 2019, when the Command 
stood up, we tracked on a daily basis about 25,000 objects in 
space. Today, in 2022, it is almost 44,000. So we have seen, 
obviously, a tremendous growth in things that we have to track 
each and every day around the globe. We have seen, with the 
Nudol test, for example, back in November, how that can expand 
quite quickly.
    So the process that we use today to do that is done out at 
Vandenberg Space Force Base by the 18th Space Control 
Identification Unit out there. The algorithms and the C2 that 
they use has been upgraded. We look at that each and every day 
in terms of how we are able to identify and work with NASA to 
make sure that we are able to identify potential issues with 
the International Space Station and its safety.
    Senator Shaheen. But you are looking only at the 
International Space Station?
    General Dickinson. No. Ma'am, we are looking at all the 
debris up there in terms of being able to provide that 
information out. That is just one area that I highlight, 
because it has such visibility on it.
    Senator Shaheen. Am I correct that there is specific 
collision screening and notification criteria that you are 
looking at?
    General Dickinson. Yes, ma'am. So there is, and we work 
very closely with not only NASA but we also work very closely 
with our commercial partners as well. We have agreements with 
over 100 companies right now, what we call a space situational 
awareness agreement, and that agreement allows us to share that 
information with them. So for example, if you are a commercial 
company that has satellites on orbit, we will let you know, or 
we will let them know if there is an issue that we project with 
potential debris.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I guess what I am trying to figure 
out is this criterion that is updated on a regular basis, do 
you all do that? Does somebody else do that? How are other 
companies and other countries notified about that?
    General Dickinson. So we do that. That is on a website that 
we have that is called spacetrack.org, where that unit at 
Vandenberg Space Force Base updates that routinely with 
information that we have that we are gathering from our sensors 
and through our analysis process.
    Senator Shaheen. Okay. I want to switch to a more mundane 
topic, because I certainly share the urgency with which both of 
you talked about the challenges we are facing from both China 
and Russia. We have had a number of conversations on this 
Committee about whether our decision-making process should be 
more efficient, should we address procurement. How do we 
address what we are seeing happening in China and Russia with 
respect to their increasing military capability, although we 
may want to raise questions about Russia after Ukraine?
    But I raise this in the context of the proposed relocation 
of SPACECOM headquarters from Colorado to Alabama, because I am 
puzzled, given the urgency, given the challenges of setting up 
this new command of the fact that you are still only in about 
50 percent capacity in terms of the staffing that you need, why 
we are going to spend several years now trying to move SPACECOM 
to a new location that is going to take us, as I understand, a 
year and a half before we actually even know whether Redstone 
is potentially an appropriate location because of environmental 
concerns. Are we reassessing that decision? My understanding 
also is that it will take us until 2026 to actually move 
SPACECOM to that location, if the assessment proves to be that 
that is an appropriate location.
    So help me understand why given all of our urgency and all 
of the decisions that we need to make we are going to spend the 
money and the time to relocate Space Command to a totally 
different place?
    General Dickinson. So, ma'am, Senator, there are two long-
going efforts. I am sure you are probably aware the DOD IG 
[Department of Defense Inspector General] is conducting their 
evaluation along with the GAO [Government Accountability 
Office]. Both of those are moving along, and I am looking 
forward to the completion of those two efforts.
    For me, it is not necessarily about the location. It is 
about the decision. So, in other words, I need a decision as 
soon as I can possibly get one so that I can build to full 
operational capability as quickly as possible.
    We do have competitors that are moving very quickly. Those 
competitors are not necessarily waiting for me to reach FOC, or 
full operational capability. So I need a decision, and based on 
that decision I will do whatever I need to do to make sure that 
I can achieve my mission.
    Senator Shaheen. Okay. I am out of time but I just want to 
follow up one point on that. If you were going to stay in your 
current location, do you have any sense of how long it would 
take to settle in to do any renovations that you need to do 
there versus moving to a new location in Alabama, and how long 
that would take and the cost of that?
    General Dickinson. So we are in the process right now of 
building the infrastructure that we need to do the mission that 
I have been given today, and we are moving in that direction. I 
would say we are a couple, 3 years away from full operational 
capability.
    Senator Shaheen. Wherever you are located.
    General Dickinson. Wherever I am located.
    Senator Shaheen. Is that based on the number of personnel 
you have to hire?
    General Dickinson. It is based on many things, Senator. One 
is personnel. The other has to do with expertise within the 
command, attracting the right expertise within the command, and 
making sure that I have trained those processes and procedures 
within the command to be able to do the entire mission set that 
I have been given.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
Admiral and General, for being here today.
    One of the reasons we have never adopted a no-first-use 
policy or made a sole purpose declaration is the real threat of 
a strategic non-nuclear attack. President Obama's 2010 Nuclear 
Posture Review states the following: ``There remains a narrow 
range of contingencies in which U.S. nuclear weapons may still 
play a role in deterring a convention or CBW [chemical and 
biological weapons] attack against the United States or its 
allies and partners. The United States is therefore not 
prepared at the present time to adopt a universal policy that 
deterring nuclear attack is the sole purpose of nuclear 
weapons.''
    Admiral Richard, chemical and biological threats are 
sometimes treated as an afterthought. How has the risk of major 
non-nuclear attack changed since 2010, and has it decreased?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first it has certainly not 
decreased. You are correct that often gets overlooked, at least 
in public discourse. I will tell you, as a part of the Nuclear 
Posture Review that was looked at very closely, and I look 
forward to the publishing of the Nuclear Posture Review to show 
you what the result of that analysis was.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Also, those who favor reducing 
the size of our nuclear forces often argue that non-nuclear 
capabilities such as space and cyber capabilities can be 
substituted for nuclear weapons without diminishing our ability 
to credibly hold targets at risk, deter adversaries, and assure 
our allies. What are your views on this idea?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, what I would offer is, one, I 
applaud efforts--that is fundamentally you are getting after 
some of the capabilities that are used inside integrated 
deterrence, and we applaud that effort.
    But I need to be clear about something here, which is there 
is no other capability or combination of capabilities that gets 
anywhere close to the demonstrated destructive potential of a 
nuclear weapon. That is why it is integral to integrated 
deterrence. Then with that foundation, with that backstop, you 
then use every other capability in our disposal to deter the 
opponent.
    An important point here, Senator, if I could. When we are 
talking about issues between nuclear-capable great powers, it 
quickly becomes less about an order of battle comparison and 
who wins the fight and quickly becomes more about who judges 
greater stake and who is willing to take greater risks to get 
it. Integrated deterrence sets us up very well to resolve 
issues like that.
    Senator Fischer. Our threats are only increasing. We have 
already brought up that we have two peer competitors when it 
comes to the threats that we face now. How do you think we can 
get that message across to the people of this country so that 
they have a more complete understanding of the threats we face 
and what we must do to protect this Homeland and also to offer 
assurances to our allies?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would offer that our opponents' 
actions are speaking to us much better than anything I can say 
in words. I think it is important for us to understand we do 
not know how far China is going to go, and Russia is also 
expanding. But also we are seeing demonstrations of how you can 
use these capabilities coercively.
    We are so trained in thinking that all we do is deter. I do 
not think that we fully understand or have thought about, in a 
long time, what the coercive use of these capabilities looks 
like, and we are getting real-world demonstrations of that 
right now.
    Senator Fischer. Admiral, you quote China's strategic 
breakout in your opening statement and you note that, quote, 
``The PRC likely intends to have at least 1,000 warheads by 
2030, greatly exceeding previous DOD estimates.'' As concerning 
as that is, it only captures, I think, part of the problem.
    I know there is not a lot you can say in this environment, 
but do you believe it is wise to assume that China's nuclear 
forces will stop expanding when they reach that point?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I will tell you, I told my staff 
that whatever the time estimate that the intelligence community 
gives you on anything from China, divide it by 2 and maybe by 4 
and you will get closer to the right answer. So no, I do not 
know that we have any idea of what the end point and/or speed. 
When I first testified here we were questioning whether or not 
China would be able to double that stockpile by the end of the 
decade. They are actually very close to doing it on my watch, 
and I think we need to factor that into our calculations as we 
think through what we need to defend ourselves.
    Senator Fischer. As we look at China's breakout, or we look 
at the continued growth of Russia's non-strategic arsenal, 
obviously nuclear threats are still growing. We are not trying 
to match any adversary system for system, but at the same time, 
an imbalance in forces does undermine our strategic stability. 
Isn't that right?
    Admiral Richard. Yes, ma'am, and said another way I think 
it emboldens coercion and aggression.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed, for holding this 
important hearing. I would also like to thank Admiral Richard 
and General Dickinson for testifying today and for your service 
to our country. Thank you.
    I want to return now to the major role that Nevada plays in 
the capabilities and safety of our nuclear arsenal, 
specifically at the Nevada National Security Site, because we 
need some infrastructure upgrades in order to continue to 
complete and do our mission.
    Admiral Richard, since 1993, the Nevada National Security 
Site, or we call it NNSS, has overseen the nuclear Stockpile 
Stewardship Program, principally at the U1a facility. It is an 
underground laboratory where scientists conduct those 
subcritical experiments to verify the reliability and 
effectiveness of our nuclear stockpile. This is the only 
facility in the country where this is done, and U1a is 
undergoing major construction projects that will soon host our 
most capable weapons radiographic system in the world. Of 
course, I have visited NNSS a few times. I am very proud of it, 
that it contributes to the certification of our nuclear 
stockpile.
    However, the NNSA faces several challenges as we have seen 
and you have testified to, to its modernization programs, 
including significant infrastructure delays which you note in 
your testimony dates back to the Manhattan Project era. The 
Nevada National Security Site is no exception. Unfortunately, 
Chairman Reed, the Nevada National Security Site is larger than 
all NSA sites combined and is the equivalent to the size of the 
state of Rhode Island, I might add.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    Senator Rosen. So we have a vast amount of infrastructure 
to build and maintain.
    So Admiral Richard, can you please speak to how upgrades to 
the Stockpile Stewardship Program like the U1a affect 
STRATCOM's certification of our nuclear stockpile, and how do 
these delays impact your ability to fulfill your 
responsibilities?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first I would put the Stockpile 
Stewardship Program on the list of things that make me proud to 
be an American that we actually figured out how to do that such 
that we relieved ourselves of the need to actually conduct 
nuclear weapons testing.
    But what I think is important to understand is that alone 
will not give us the confidence that we have to have in our 
weapons. That is what this fundamentally comes back to. Are you 
confident in your stockpile and your deterrent because that 
underpins credibility which is needed to deter?
    There are two other things we have to do in addition to the 
good work in the Stockpile Stewardship Program. One of them is 
you have to have a flexible and modern stockpile, which means 
we need to move past life extensions, which we have been doing 
for 30 years, and move into refurbishments, which is where NNSA 
is about to go. The second one goes back to the infrastructure 
you are talking about. You have to have a modern, responsive, 
and resilient infrastructure, and we have delayed too long, in 
my opinion, giving NNSA the resources necessary to do that 
piece. All three of those are necessary for us to have the 
confidence we need to conduct my mission.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Speaking of mission, we have 
cyber mission and space, and cyber, I could talk all about 
workforce, the workforce challenges that we have with 
developing that. Senator Ernst brought that up. But as we see 
what is happening particularly in the Ukraine, are you 
concerned, General Dickinson that the increasing threats of 
cyberattack from Russia could jeopardize our United States 
space operations? Maybe you cannot speak of it here. We will 
talk later about space cyber aggression as the war in Ukraine 
continues to go forward.
    General Dickinson. Well, thank you, and I will provide more 
in the closed session. But I will say here, this morning, is 
just to echo what Admiral Richard said in terms of posture at 
this particular point. I support Admiral Richard in a lot of 
things that he does in terms of his nuclear command and 
control, and I am very satisfied in the posture that we have 
today with respect to space as well as cyber. We have taken a 
lot of effort to ensure that we are cyber hardened and that we 
have got the right types of experts looking at our systems, our 
vital space systems. But I can provide more to you in the 
closed session.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. I know my time 
is almost up. I do want to talk about workforce development. I 
have been lucky enough to have a Junior ROTC STEM bill passed, 
which means our youngest kids, kids in high school, they have a 
track for joining Junior ROTC to put them into STEM professions 
in the military. It is really important. We will talk later 
about developing that workforce. I will submit them for the 
record. But we really need to up our game there as well, to be 
nimble and modernize.
    Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to both 
of you for your service and for being here. Admiral Richard, 
let me just say as others have said, one of your strongest 
qualities, since I have known you anyway, has been your 
forthrightness and your clarity. But I have to say, in the 
moment that we are in right now, I have especially appreciated 
your boldness and clarity. We need to hear it. The people we 
work for need to hear it.
    I also have to compliment you on your composure, being able 
to sit through some of this. The suggestion that there has not 
been enough variables or enough varying opinions to commit $630 
billion over 10 years to the most important deterrence to 
aggression in the world is frightening enough, but it is 
galling in the context that around here some people think 
nothing of spending trillions of dollars over the course of 10 
months or 10 weeks or even 10 days, based on the opinion of one 
person at HHS. I will leave it at that. So congratulations on 
having composure as well.
    I do want to get back to an issue that Senator Blackburn 
raised with regard to the postponement of that ICBM watch. As 
you can imagine, those of us in North Dakota pay close 
attention to those things. I appreciate your answer, 
particularly your commitment that it is only a postponement, 
that it is now rescheduled. Did you agree with postponing that, 
if I might ask?
    General Dickinson. Senator, I had an opportunity to 
directly advise the Secretary of Defense, among others. I think 
it would be best if I left that advice private between him and 
I.
    Senator Cramer. I understand and I appreciate that, because 
it seems to me that reality is now clashing with some people's 
fantasies. I appreciate you raising the reality of the moment. 
You said it well a little bit ago when you said opponents' 
actions are speaking as loudly as anything that we could 
probably say.
    General, I want to talk a little bit about--I want to bring 
it home a little bit as well. You, of course, are very 
familiar. You and I visited the very old PARCS radar station, 
the Cavalier Radar Station, now the Cavalier Space Force 
Station, it seems like last month but I think it was probably a 
year or two ago. As you know, we had this very important early 
warning system designed to, of course, warn us early in case 
something is coming over the Arctic. Now, of course, it has 
been monitoring space as well. You have talked about the need 
for decision superiority. That was, I think, something you 
referenced or talked quite a bit about over the last couple of 
years.
    I am just wondering if the PARCS array at Cavalier Space 
Station that relies on this very old technology, if there is 
modernization opportunities for our decision superiority as 
well that we should be talking about.
    General Dickinson. Senator, thank you, and I did enjoy my 
trip up there. I think it was over a year ago, maybe 2 years 
ago now. But certainly that particular sensor, and all of those 
early warning radars, are very critical to our overall 
architecture, to be able to provide that missile warning, 
missile defense, and space domain awareness. So critical to 
provide that very decision space to our national-level leaders.
    So in terms of what that capability is today, we continue 
to look at that through a lifecycle management, and really I 
work very closely with the Space Force, because they are 
ultimately in charge of those upgrades and the modernization of 
those assets. What I do is identify whether or not we have a 
gap or a requirement that would need that. So we are working 
very closely with them and we are looking at the entire 
architecture, not just necessarily one asset. Because as we 
look to the future, it will not only be a terrestrial-based 
type of capability that is up there right now but we will look 
at a space capability too, that augments that, so we have a 
layered warning capability globally.
    Senator Cramer. I think, Admiral, you had mentioned 
earlier, maybe both of you have talked about, throughout this 
hearing, the delay or interruption in funding of modernization, 
what that means, the kind of signal that that sends, the 
practical, functional consequences of that.
    Let me ask this. If we were, in this place, able to get our 
act together, if we were able to have enough consensus and 
realization that modernization is not just important but 
critical, and if we were to have the political will, would it 
even be possible to not only not delay but even accelerate any 
part of modernization if we were able to make that case?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would defer to the services to 
give you the specifics of that. But I think you are hitting at, 
we need to ask questions differently. We used to ask what is it 
going to take, and we have gotten into the habit of saying how 
are we going to mitigate our assumed delay or failure. We used 
to ask the question the other way around. That is how we got to 
the moon by 1969. We need to get back to understanding the 
operational risk is on par with programmatic and technical 
risk, reverse the way we ask questions, and get back to 
producing capabilities to way we used to.
    Senator Cramer. I appreciate it. Thank you both. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Let me recognize Senator Tuberville for the purpose of a 
unanimous consent request.
    Senator Tuberville. Oh, thank you very much. Just really 
quickly, you know, I would like to correct for the record the 
remarks of my colleague from New Hampshire, and I appreciate 
General Dickinson being a bipartisan approach here on the 
movement of Space Command from Vandenberg to Redstone Arsenal 
in Alabama.
    The recently released draft environmental study found, 
quote, ``significant impact on socioeconomic conditions and 
environmental justice,'' end quote, at Vandenberg. By contrast, 
the study found no significant environmental concerns at 
Redstone.
    Mr. Chairman, I would just like to submit this study to you 
for the record and correct that as we go along.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]

  Draft Finding of No Significant Impact Environmental Assessment for 
    United States Space Command Headquarters Basing and Construction
    Pursuant to provisions of the National Environmental Policy Act 
(NEPA), 42 United States Code 4231 to 4270d; Council on Environmental 
Quality (CEQ) Regulations, 40 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 1500-
1508; and 32 CFR Part 989, Environmental Impact Analysis Process, the 
U.S. Air Force has prepared the attached environmental assessment (EA) 
to address the potential environmental impacts associated with the 
establishment of a headquarters for the U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM; 
Proposed Action) at one of five Department of Defense (DOD) 
installations in the United States.
          purpose and need (ea section (Sec. ) 1.2, page 1-1)
    Pursuant to Section 1601(c) of the National Defense Authorization 
Act for fiscal year 2018, the U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense was 
directed to review national security space DOD components and recommend 
changes to Congress by August 1, 2018. The U.S. Deputy Secretary of 
Defense's final report to Congress recommended that the President of 
the United States modify the Unified Command Plan to standup a new 
combatant command for space (USSPACECOM). The U.S. Strategic Command's 
Joint Force Space Component Command was elevated to a combatant command 
and assumed these duties in 2019.
    The purpose of the Proposed Action is to establish a permanent 
operational USSPACECOM headquarters as a functional combatant command. 
The need for the Proposed Action is driven by the need for suitable 
permanent facilities to fulfill USSPACECOM required functions to enable 
achievement of full operational capability by 2025.
          description of the proposed action and alternatives
    The Proposed Action and all reasonable alternatives are presented 
and evaluated in the attached EA.
Proposed Action (EA Sec.  2.1, page 2-1)
    The Proposed Action would establish a USSPACECOM headquarters at 
one of five DOD installations in the United States: Buckley, Peterson, 
or Schriever Air Force Base (AFB) in Colorado; Vandenberg AFB in 
California; or U.S. Army Garrison Redstone Arsenal (Redstone Arsenal) 
in Alabama. The proposed headquarters facility would accommodate 
approximately 1,870 personnel in a typical headquarters setting 
consisting of 498,000 square feet of office/administrative space, and 
502,000 square feet for privately owned vehicle (POV) parking, totaling 
1,000,000 square feet, or approximately 23 acres. POV parking would be 
provided in adjacent parking lots except at Peterson AFB, where it 
would be provided in parking garages. The majority of the permanent 
facility would be sensitive compartmented information facility space, 
and open administrative space, offices, conference rooms, classrooms, 
kitchen, dining, and break rooms. USSPACECOM operations would include 
command and control of global DOD space operations, support to other 
combatant commands, defense of U.S. and allied space operations, the 
gaining and maintaining of space superiority, and the evolution of DOD 
space capabilities and training.
    To conduct operations prior to the completion of the permanent 
construction (estimated to be 2025), temporary basing would include 
193,000 square feet for interim facility space, and an estimated 
502,000 square feet for parking. Existing, vacant office/administrative 
space or leased office/administrative space on or outside the selected 
installation, and/or new temporary/modular buildings that would be 
purchased or leased by the Air Force and placed on a suitable site 
within the selected installation's secure perimeter would be used in 
the interim until the permanent headquarters facility is operational. 
POV parking would be provided in existing parking lots and/or temporary 
gravel lots. To maximize flexibility for siting USSPACECOM headquarters 
operations, the interim and permanent facilities would not necessarily 
be at the same installation. Staffing of the interim facility would 
begin in 2019, and gradually increase to a total staff of approximately 
1,870. Staff would transfer from the interim to the permanent facility 
after construction of the permanent facility is complete.
    Force protection measures for the new facility will be incorporated 
in accordance with the Unified Facilities Criteria 4-010-01, DOD 
Minimum Antiterrorism Standards for Buildings, February 9, 2012. 
Construction of the permanent facility would comply with the U.S. 
Environmental Protection Agency's Construction General Permit in effect 
at the time of construction, and with the Energy Independence and 
Security Act (EISA) Section 438 requirements. Construction activities 
would be implemented using sustainable design concepts as outlined in 
the Unified Facilities Criteria and the selected installation's design 
and construction standards. Sustainable design concepts would emphasize 
state-of-the-art strategies for site development, efficient water and 
energy use, and improved indoor environmental quality. Stormwater 
management at the new facility would use low-impact development as 
required by Section 438 of the EISA, and the selected installation's 
municipal separate storm sewer system permit.
Alternatives (EA Sec.  2.3, pages 2-7 to 2-33)
    The Air Force identified seven potential interim and seven 
potential permanent site alternatives at the five DOD installations 
noted above. These site alternatives are summarized in Table 1. The 
perimeter of all alternative sites can be accessed by existing roads at 
the DOD installations being considered. The attached EA analyzes 
potential impacts from implementing the Proposed Action at these 
interim and permanent site alternatives.
    All other potential installations and alternative sites evaluated 
during the Air Force's basing selection process were dismissed from 
analysis in the EA because they did not meet one or more of the Air 
Force site selection screening criteria, and therefore failed to meet 
the Proposed Action's purpose and need.


                     Table 1 Summary of Alternatives
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             Site Alternative               Site Alternative Description
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Buckley AFB
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Interim Site Alternative 1 (West End        Previously disturbed but
 District)                                   currently vacant land
                                             containing maintained
                                             vegetation on the western
                                             side of the base outside of
                                             its Restricted Area (RA).
                                             Interim facilities would
                                             consist of modular
                                             buildings.
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Permanent Site Alternative 1 (North Corner  Previously disturbed but
 Site 1)                                     currently vacant land on
                                             the northeastern side of
                                             the base outside of its RA.
                                             Partially overlaps a former
                                             skeet range.
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Permanent Site Alternative 2 (North Corner  Immediately southwest of
 Site 2)                                     Permanent Site Alternative
                                             1. Partially overlaps
                                             vacant structures
                                             associated with the former
                                             skeet range, an on-base
                                             thrift store, and
                                             construction lay-down area.
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Peterson AFB
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Interim Site Alternative 1 (Command         Previously disturbed but
 Complex and Leased Off-base Office Space)   mostly undeveloped vacant
                                             land east of Building 3 in
                                             the installation's Command
                                             Complex. Interim facilities
                                             would consist of modular
                                             buildings and existing,
                                             leased off-base office
                                             space within 4 miles of
                                             Peterson AFB's West Gate.
                                             Temporary parking for the
                                             on-base modular facilities
                                             would be established on
                                             adjacent vacant land leased
                                             from the Colorado Springs
                                             Municipal Airport.
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Permanent Site Alternative 1 (Command       Existing paved parking lot
 Complex)                                    immediately south of
                                             Buildings 1 and 2 in the
                                             installation's Command
                                             Complex. POV parking would
                                             be provided in two garages
                                             that would be built on
                                             existing paved parking lots
                                             as part of the alternative.
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               Table 1 Summary of Alternatives--Continued
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             Site Alternative               Site Alternative Description
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Schriever AFB
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Interim Site Alternative 1 (Inside RA /     Previously undeveloped sites
 West Side of RA / Leased Off-base Office    consisting of maintained
 Space)                                      vegetation (i.e., prairie
                                             grass). Interim facilities
                                             would consist of modular
                                             buildings and existing,
                                             leased off-base office
                                             space within 4 miles of
                                             Peterson AFB's West Gate.
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Interim Site Alternative 2 (Outside RA /
 North of Building 24 / Leased Off-base
 Office Space)
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Permanent Site Alternative 1 (Inside RA)    Previously undeveloped sites
 (West Side of RA)                           consisting of maintained
                                             vegetation (i.e., prairie
                                             grass)
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Site Alternative 2 (Outside RA) (Northwest
 of Building 24)
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Vandenberg AFB
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Interim Site Alternative 1 (Buildings       Buildings 6523, 7225, and
 6523, 7225, and 10577)                      10577 would undergo minor
                                             interior renovations to
                                             accommodate the interim
                                             facility. POV parking would
                                             be provided in existing
                                             lots and in an
                                             approximately 28,000-square-
                                             foot gravel-covered area
                                             that would be established
                                             adjacent to the existing
                                             parking lot at Building
                                             6523.
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Permanent Site Alternative 1 (California    Previously disturbed but
 South)                                      currently vacant land in
                                             the installation's
                                             cantonment area. Land cover
                                             primarily consists of
                                             maintained vegetation and
                                             parking lots. An existing
                                             modular building on the
                                             site would be demolished.
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Redstone Arsenal
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Interim Site Alternative 1 (Redstone        Personnel would occupy
 Gateway, and Buildings 5201 and 5220)       office space currently
                                             under construction at
                                             Redstone Gateway, an
                                             enhanced use lease area
                                             within the installation's
                                             secure perimeter
                                             administered by the U.S.
                                             Army Corps of Engineers,
                                             and existing vacant office
                                             space that would undergo
                                             minor interior renovations
                                             at Buildings 5201 and 5220.
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Interim Site Alternative 2 (Area 2, and     Personnel would occupy
 Buildings 5201 and 5220)                    existing vacant office
                                             space that would undergo
                                             minor interior renovations
                                             at Buildings 5201 and 5220,
                                             and modular buildings that
                                             would be placed on Area 2,
                                             a previously disturbed but
                                             currently undeveloped area
                                             that primarily consists of
                                             maintained vegetation.
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Permanent Site Alternative 1 (Area 5 and     The new permanent facility
 Building 5201)                              would be built on Area 5,
                                             which is previously
                                             disturbed but currently
                                             vacant, and consists of
                                             maintained vegetation.
                                             Existing vacant space in
                                             Building 5201 also would be
                                             used following minor
                                             interior renovations.
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No Action Alternative (EA Sec.  2.3.7, page 2-33)
    Under the No Action Alternative, the interim and permanent 
USSPACECOM headquarters would not be established. USSPACECOM would not 
be able to effectively perform the strategic objectives outlined in 
Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense Authorization Act Section 1601c.
                    summary of environmental impacts
    The analyses of the affected environment and environmental 
consequences of implementing the Proposed Action presented in the EA 
concluded that there would be no significant impacts on the following 
resources at any of the candidate installations or site alternatives:

      Transportation

      Hazardous materials and waste

      Air quality

      Biological resources

      Cultural resources

      Geology and paleontological resources

      Water resources

    The Proposed Action would have a potentially significant impact on 
socioeconomic conditions and environmental justice communities near 
Vandenberg AFB if that installation is selected for implementation. 
This impact and proposed mitigation measures are discussed below.
    Because this potentially significant socioeconomic impact would 
have no interrelated physical environmental effects, it would not, in 
and of itself, require the preparation of an Environmental Impact 
Statement as stated in the CEQ regulations at 40 CFR 1508.14.
Transportation (EA Sec.  4.2, page 4.2-1)
    The Proposed Action would generate additional construction-related 
traffic in the short term, but the number and frequency of additional 
vehicles traveling to and from the project site would vary during the 
construction phase. The additional volume of construction-related 
traffic would be proportionate to the scale of the facilities being 
renovated or built to accommodate the interim and permanent facilities, 
and would not be particularly unusual.
    In the long term, the Proposed Action would increase commuter 
traffic volumes on and off the selected installation(s), and require 
minor improvements to installation roads to provide vehicular access to 
the proposed interim and permanent facilities. However, these traffic 
increases would not exceed the existing capacity of the vehicular 
transportation network on or outside the selected installation(s), or 
noticeably contribute to the degradation of traffic conditions outside 
the installation.
    Therefore, short-term and long-term impacts on transportation from 
the Proposed Action would be negligible or minor, and would not be 
significant.
Hazardous Materials and Hazardous Waste (EA Sec.  4.3, page 4.3-1)
    Hazardous materials and hazardous and non-hazardous solid wastes 
used and generated, respectively, during the Proposed Action's 
construction and operational phases would be managed in accordance with 
applicable Federal, State, local, and Air Force regulatory 
requirements; would be small in the context of such substances present 
on the selected installation(s); and would not exceed the selected 
installation's capacity to manage them, nor the capacity of licensed 
disposal facilities outside the installation to accept and dispose of 
them. To the extent possible, recyclable construction debris would be 
segregated from the non-recyclable waste stream in accordance with 
applicable Air Force/installation policies. Implementation of the 
Proposed Action would not delay or prevent the continued management and 
remediation of Environmental Restoration Program sites on the selected 
installation(s), and would not result in changes to the selected 
installation's Environmental Protection Agency generator status.
    Therefore, short-term and long-term impacts from hazardous 
materials and hazardous waste from the Proposed Action would be 
negligible or minor, and would not be significant. In the long term, 
remediation of contaminated soils or hazardous materials underlying or 
at the selected site alternatives would represent a beneficial effect 
on hazardous waste management.
Socioeconomics and Environmental Justice (EA Sec.  4.4, page 4.3-1)
    The Proposed Action would have positive short-term socioeconomic 
impacts in jurisdictions adjacent to or near the selected 
installation(s) from employment, sales, and tax revenues generated by 
construction activities. Construction-related impacts with the 
potential to disproportionately affect environmental justice 
populations or concentrations of children would not extend beyond the 
boundaries of the selected interim and permanent sites, and therefore, 
would have no potential to affect those communities.
    Implementation of the Proposed Action would not result in 
significant long-term socioeconomic impacts for any of the proposed 
candidate sites, apart from Vandenberg AFB. The nearest sizable 
municipalities to each installation except Vandenberg AFB have an 
existing supply of public and private services to meet the needs of the 
1,870 staff that would be assigned to the proposed facilities.
    Nearly 20 percent of the population in the cities of Lompoc and 
Santa Maria, California lived below the poverty line in 2017, and 
upwards of 60 percent of households that rent spend 30 percent or more 
of their income on rent. Any sizable increase in demand for housing 
that is not closely matched by an increase in supply would be expected 
to result in an increase in housing and rental prices. Low-income 
populations, which have less discretionary income compared to high-
income populations, would face disproportionate impacts if there is 
increased competition for housing. The current housing supply and 
associated public and private services in those cities would not be 
able to meet the demands of the new population required for the 
Proposed Action at Vandenberg AFB.
    To mitigate potentially significant and/or disproportionately 
adverse effects on low-income and environmental justice communities in 
the vicinity of Vandenberg AFB from the Proposed Action, and ensure 
such impacts remain less than significant, the Air Force will 
incorporate one or more of the following measures in the Proposed 
Action:

      Develop a plan for identifying and tracking locally 
available housing options that can help to meet the demand associated 
with new (out of region) personnel assigned to support long term 
operations of the proposed action;

      Continue to dedicate staff resources to assist new (out 
of region) personnel in securing housing;

      Work to identify persons currently living in the region 
to meet some level of the operational staffing needs; and/or

      Collaborate with public (e.g., cities) and private (e.g., 
developers) entities in the region that have the capacity and desire to 
develop new housing.

    This potentially significant socioeconomic impact would have no 
interrelated physical environmental effects. Therefore, as stated in 
the CEQ regulations at 40 CFR 1508.14, it would not, in and of itself, 
require the preparation of an Environmental Impact Statement.
    No mitigation measures would be required at the other candidate 
installations because impacts on socioeconomic conditions and 
environmental justice communities would not be significant.
Air Quality (EA Sec.  4.5, page 4.5-1)
    Short-term and long-term emissions from the Proposed Action of 
criteria pollutants regulated by the National Ambient Air Quality 
Standards under the Clean Air Act would remain below de minimis levels, 
and would not contribute to the further degradation of air quality such 
that attainment areas would be classified as non-attainment or 
maintenance, or delay or prevent the attainment of air quality 
standards in maintenance or non-attainment areas. A formal general 
conformity determination for the Proposed Action is not required. If 
implemented at Vandenberg AFB, emissions from the Proposed Action would 
remain below California daily significance thresholds. Emissions of 
Hazardous Air Pollutants (HAPs) from the Proposed Action would be 
higher relative to the No Action Alternative; however, de minimis 
levels have not been established for HAP emissions.
    Each of the candidate installations is anticipated to be affected 
by global climate change to varying degrees. Emissions from the 
Proposed Action would contribute to climate change. However, given the 
magnitude of anticipated GHG emissions, the impact on cumulative global 
climate change would be low. Although sea level rise is anticipated to 
affect Vandenberg AFB, effects on the Proposed Action, if implemented 
at the installation, would be minimal because the proposed interim and/
or permanent facilities would be well inland.
Biological Resources (EA Sec.  4.6, page 4.6-1)
    Vegetation impacts would be contained entirely within the 
boundaries of the selected sites and/or utility and transportation 
corridors where improvements are made to accommodate the proposed 
facilities. Vegetation removed to construct the interim and permanent 
facilities would constitute a small portion of existing vegetation on 
the selected installation(s) and surrounding region. Areas of the 
project sites not built on or otherwise developed would be revegetated 
in accordance with the installation's landscape design guidelines. The 
introduction or spread of non-native or invasive species would be 
prevented or minimized by adherence to each installation's Integrated 
Natural Resources Management Plan, and/or other applicable policy 
documents.
    Construction of the proposed facilities would remove habitat; and 
displace, and in some limited cases, potentially destroy individuals of 
common wildlife species. Although these would be adverse effects, they 
would occur at the individual rather than population or species level, 
and would not threaten the continued propagation of common wildlife 
species. Mobile individuals would likely relocate to other areas of 
suitable habitat that would remain near the selected sites. Individual 
animals adapted to urbanized environments or high degrees of human 
activity would potentially return to the interim and permanent sites 
once construction activities have ended.
    Adherence to site-specific stormwater pollution prevention plans 
(SWPPPs), erosion and sediment control plans, and/or stormwater 
management plans that would be prepared by the construction contractor 
in accordance with National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System 
permit requirements applicable to the selected installation(s) would 
prevent or minimize the potential for the degradation of water quality 
in receiving waterbodies and corresponding impacts on aquatic species.
    Implementation of the Proposed Action would not involve the 
disturbance or filling of jurisdictional wetlands.
    No federally listed species have been documented on the proposed 
interim and permanent sites. State-listed species, species of special 
concern, and/or migratory birds are known or suspected to be present on 
a number of the sites, particularly those in Colorado. Suitable habitat 
for special-status species also is present on a number of site 
alternatives. As applicable, vegetation clearing on the selected sites 
would occur outside of applicable time-of-year (TOY) restriction 
periods to avoid impacts on special-status species. If construction 
must occur during the TOY period, surveys for special-status species 
would be conducted onsites where such species or their habitat are 
known or suspected to be present. If the surveys confirm the presence 
of special-status species, the Air Force would conduct additional 
consultation with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and/or other 
applicable Federal and State regulatory agencies to develop avoidance 
and mitigation measures.
    The operation of the proposed interim and permanent facilities 
would not involve ongoing disturbance of common and special-status 
plant and animal species.
    Therefore, short-term and long-term impacts on biological resources 
from the Proposed Action would be negligible or minor, and would not be 
significant.
Cultural Resources (EA Sec.  4.7, page 4.7-1)
    No known archaeological resources eligible for listing in the 
National Register of Historic Places (NRHP) identified at the candidate 
installations would be directly or indirectly affected by 
implementation of the Proposed Action. Given prior land-disturbing 
activities conducted on and around site alternatives, unanticipated 
discoveries are not likely, and the potential for unearthing previously 
undocumented resources is low to moderate. In the event of inadvertent 
discoveries of undocumented cultural resources, ground-disturbing work 
would stop immediately and policies in the selected installation's 
Integrated Cultural Resources Management Plan would be implemented to 
preserve and document the discovery, thereby ensuring that impacts 
would not be significant.
    No identified NRHP-eligible buildings would be directly affected by 
implementation of the Proposed Action. Physical alterations proposed 
for unevaluated buildings in Interim Site Alternative 1 at Vandenberg 
AFB would be limited to interior renovations. Therefore, no significant 
direct impacts on the historic built environment under any of the 
proposed interim and permanent site alternatives are anticipated.
    No buildings at Buckley AFB, Schriever AFB, Peterson AFB, and 
Vandenberg AFB that were considered for potential visual or other 
indirect effects appear to be eligible for the NRHP. Building 4381 at 
Redstone Arsenal has been extensively modified and is separated from 
Interim Site Alternative 2 by a forested area. Therefore, Building 4381 
would not be indirectly affected by implementation of Interim Site 
Alternative 2.
    The Air Force has proposed the preparation of a project-specific 
Programmatic Agreement (pPA) to the Colorado State Historic 
Preservation Officer (SHPO) as allowed for in 36 CFR 800.14(b)(1)(ii) 
``when effects on historic properties cannot be fully determined prior 
to approval of an undertaking.'' If a site alternative in Colorado is 
selected for implementation of the Proposed Action, the pPA would 
commit the Air Force to conducting additional Section 106 consultation 
following signature of the FONSI (if appropriate based on the analysis 
presented in the EA), but prior to beginning construction of the 
proposed facility. The Colorado SHPO has concurred that a pPA for the 
Proposed Action is appropriate, and agreed to participate in its 
development.
    The Alabama and California SHPOs will be provided with a copy of 
the Draft EA for review and comment during the 30-day public comment 
period.
    As of 2019, no Traditional Cultural Places, sacred sites, or items 
of cultural patrimony have been identified at any of the proposed 
interim and permanent sites. Consultation letters were sent in May and 
June 2019 to federally recognized Native American tribes with historic 
affiliations to the geographic areas of Redstone Arsenal and the 
Colorado candidate installations. To date, three tribes have requested 
to be a consulting party to the Proposed Action. Letters announcing the 
availability of the EA and Draft FONSI for public review will be sent 
during the 30-day public comment period to all federally recognized 
tribes initially consulted in May and June 2019.
    Therefore, through ongoing consultation and adherence to applicable 
cultural resource management policies at the selected installation(s), 
the Proposed Action would have no or negligible impacts on NRHP-
eligible archaeological and architectural resources, or on areas of 
tribal concern. Impacts would not be significant.
Geological and Paleontological Resources (EA Sec.  4.8, page 4.8-1)
    Construction of the Proposed Action would have the potential to 
disturb soils and alter topography on the selected interim and 
permanent sites. The extent of ground disturbance from site preparation 
associated with the proposed interim and permanent facilities would 
vary depending on the sites that are ultimately selected. Such 
disturbance from an interim alternative involving the use of modular 
buildings would be minimal relative to construction of the proposed 
permanent facility. All interim and permanent site alternatives are 
previously disturbed; do not contain pristine or unique soils; and are 
not considered Prime Farmland. Soils exposed on the sites for extended 
periods would be revegetated to prevent or minimize erosion by wind and 
water. Clean fill soils with properties supporting the proposed 
construction would be imported to the selected sites as necessary to 
supplement or replace soils considered unsuitable for development. 
Soils containing hazardous substances exceeding applicable regulatory 
thresholds (e.g., petroleum constituents) would be removed from the 
selected sites and transported to licensed disposal facilities outside 
the installation(s) for disposal.
    Ground-disturbing activities on the selected interim and permanent 
site alternatives would alter existing topography to provide level 
construction surfaces. The extent of alteration would vary based on the 
site(s) that are ultimately selected; however, all of the proposed 
interim and permanent sites are relatively flat, previously disturbed, 
and do not contain unique, pristine, or noteworthy topographic 
features. The selected interim and permanent sites would be regraded as 
necessary to achieve positive surface drainage post-construction.
    The extent and nature of effects on subsurface geology from 
construction of deep foundations for the permanent facility would be 
determined by site-specific soil properties and depth to bedrock. 
Geotechnical studies would be conducted following selection of the 
permanent site to determine the extent of foundation support required. 
No unique or noteworthy geologic strata would be affected, because none 
are present under any of the permanent site alternatives. Excavation 
associated with construction of the proposed interim facility would be 
relatively shallow (i.e., no more than a few feet at most), and would 
have no potential to affect underlying geologic strata.
    All ground disturbance associated with the Proposed Action's 
construction phase would be limited to the selected interim and 
permanent sites, and discrete areas of the respective installation(s) 
where associated infrastructure and/or road improvements would occur. 
Ground disturbance would be proportionate to the scale of the 
facilities being constructed, and would not be particularly unusual in 
the context of facility construction projects of similar type and scale 
that occur with relative frequency at each of the candidate 
installations.
    If an interim and/or permanent site alternative with a higher 
likelihood for paleontological resources to be present is selected for 
the Proposed Action, additional surveys for such resources would be 
conducted prior to ground-disturbing activities, as determined 
necessary through coordination between the Air Force and the selected 
installation(s). In the event of inadvertent discovery of previously 
undocumented paleontological resources during construction of the 
proposed facilities, all ground-disturbing work would immediately stop, 
and procedures specified in the selected installation's Integrated 
Cultural Resources Management Plan would be implemented to preserve and 
document the discovery.
    Interim site alternatives only involving the use of existing, 
vacant office space (i.e., Redstone Arsenal Interim Site Alternative 1) 
would have no potential to disturb geological or paleontological 
resources.
    The Proposed Action does not involve mineral extraction or the 
ongoing disturbance of geological or paleontological resources. Soils 
not built on or otherwise developed would be revegetated to minimize or 
prevent continued erosion. The proposed permanent facility, and to the 
extent possible, the proposed interim facility, would be built in 
accordance with seismic reinforcement requirements applicable to the 
selected locations.
    Therefore, short-term impacts on geological and paleontological 
resources from the Proposed Action would be negligible or minor, and 
would not be significant. There would be no long-term impacts.
Water Resources (EA Sec.  4.9, page 4.9-1)
    Construction and operation of the Proposed Action would not involve 
redirecting, channeling, damming, draining, spanning, or withdrawals 
from surface waterbodies; withdrawals or intentional discharge or 
injection of pollutants to groundwater; or disturbance of the 100-year 
floodplain.
    Contractors would adhere to site-specific erosion and sediment 
control plans, Stormwater Management plans, and SWPPPs, in accordance 
with applicable Federal, State, and local regulatory requirements, 
including the applicable requirements of each installation's National 
Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit, to minimize 
concentrations of sediments and pollutants in stormwater discharged 
from the constructionsites, and corresponding degradation of water 
quality in receiving waterbodies.
    All areas of the sites not built on, paved, or otherwise developed 
would be revegetated in accordance with the selected installation's 
landscape design and planting guidelines; or would otherwise be 
maintained in a permeable condition to minimize or eliminate the 
potential for further impacts from erosion of exposed soils and 
degradation of downstream water quality.
    Potential increases in stormwater volume generated on the proposed 
interim and permanent sites resulting from an increase in impervious 
surface would be managed in accordance with the policies and 
requirements of the selected installation's SWPPP and other applicable 
policy documents, thereby ensuring that runoff from the proposed 
facilities would have no potential to contribute to exceedances of 
water quality thresholds in receiving waterbodies. Stormwater 
management infrastructure on or near the selected permanent and interim 
modular site alternatives would be installed or upgraded as necessary 
to account for any additional stormwater volume generated by the 
proposed facility. Incorporation of low-impact development measures in 
accordance with Section 438 of the EISA would maintain the pre-
development hydrology of the site to the maximum extent technically 
feasible, further minimizing impacts.
    Hazardous materials and hazardous waste used and generated, 
respectively, during construction and operation of the Proposed Action 
would be managed in accordance with label directions and the selected 
installation's applicable policies, including those specified in its 
Hazardous Waste Management Plan and Spill Prevention, Control, and 
Countermeasures Plan, thereby minimizing or preventing the migration of 
hazardous substances to groundwater or receiving surface waterbodies. 
Adherence to these requirements would prevent or minimize the potential 
for accidental spills or releases of hazardous substances.
    Therefore, short-term and long-term impacts on water resources from 
the Proposed Action would be negligible or minor, and would not be 
significant.
Cumulative Impacts (EA Sec.  4.13, page 4.13-1)
    The Proposed Action analyzed in this EA would have short-and long-
term, negligible or minor cumulative impacts on transportation, 
hazardous materials and waste, air quality, biological resources, 
cultural resources, geology and soils, and water resources. It is 
anticipated that impacts on those resources from Federal and non-
Federal projects of similar type and scale occurring on and near the 
selected installation(s) would be similar. Short-term, beneficial 
cumulative impacts on socioeconomics would occur at all installations 
except for Vandenberg AFB, which would experience long-term, 
potentially significant cumulative impacts on socioeconomics and 
environmental justice due to collective demand on housing. Impacts on 
environmental justice communities near Vandenberg AFB, if selected for 
implementation of the Proposed Action, would require mitigation by the 
Air Force; it is anticipated that such impacts from similar Federal and 
non-Federal projects on and near Vandenberg AFB would be similarly 
mitigated through conditions of development granted by Federal, State, 
and local regulatory authorities.
            mitigation and environmental management actions
    The Proposed Action would potentially have significant adverse 
impacts on socioeconomic conditions and environmental justice 
populations near Vandenberg AFB if that installation is selected for 
implementation. Therefore, the Air Force will incorporate one or more 
of the following mitigation measures in the Proposed Action to ensure 
such impacts remain less than significant if the Proposed Action is 
implemented at Vandenberg AFB:

      Develop a plan for identifying and tracking locally 
available housing options that can help to meet the demand associated 
with new (out of region) personnel assigned to support long term 
operations of the proposed action;

      Continue to dedicate staff resources to assist new (out 
of region) personnel in securing housing;

      Work to identify persons currently living in the region 
to meet some level of the operational staffing needs; and/or

      Collaborate with public (e.g., cities) and private (e.g., 
developers) entities in the region that have the capacity and desire to 
develop new housing.

    As stated in the CEQ regulations at 40 CFR 1508.14, this 
potentially significant socioeconomic impact would have no interrelated 
physical environmental effects, and therefore would not require, in and 
of itself, the preparation of an Environmental Impact Statement.
    There would be no significant impacts on other resources analyzed 
in the EA. Therefore, mitigation measures for impacts on those 
resources would not be required.
    To prevent or minimize potential adverse effects on special-status 
species from the Proposed Action, vegetation clearing required on the 
selected sites would be conducted outside applicable TOY restriction 
periods to prevent the removal suitable habitat. Species surveys would 
be conducted prior to construction if special-status species are 
suspected to be present on the selected sites, and vegetation clearing 
must be conducted during TOY restriction periods. If special-status 
species are determined to be present, mitigation or avoidance measures 
would be developed through additional consultation with U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service and/or other Federal and State regulatory agencies.
                               conclusion
    Based on the provisions set forth in the Proposed Action, the 
proposed activities were found to comply with the criteria or standards 
of environmental quality, and coordinated with the appropriate Federal, 
State, and local agencies. The attached EA and a draft of this Finding 
of No Significant Impact (FONSI) were made available to the public on 
24 July 2019 for a 30-day review period.
                    finding of no significant impact
    After review of the attached EA, prepared in accordance with the 
requirements of NEPA; CEQ regulations; and 32 CFR Part 989, 
Environmental Impact Analysis Process, and which is hereby incorporated 
by reference, I have determined that the Proposed Action would not have 
a significant impact on the quality of the human or natural environment 
with the incorporation of applicable mitigation measures. Accordingly, 
an Environmental Impact Statement will not be prepared. This decision 
has been made after taking into account all submitted information, and 
considering a full range of practical alternatives that would meet 
project requirements and are within the legal authority of the U.S. Air 
Force. The signing of this FONSI completes the environmental impact 
analysis process.

 
 
 
 
Michelle A. Linn, GS-15,---------------- ............. -Date------------
DAFC Chief, Engineering Division.......
Command Civil Engineer.................
 


Attachment:
Environmental Assessment for Construction and Operation of USSPACECOM 
Headquarters Facility, Multiple Department of Defense Installations, 
United States.

    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you for being here today, for your testimony, and thank 
you for your service.
    General Dickinson, your posture statement provided a very 
detailed account of the significant progress that SPACECOM has 
made with some partners and allies all over the world. The 
illegal and unjust Russian invasion of Ukraine has certainly 
renewed NATO's sense of purpose. I think we would all agree on 
that. It is very encouraging to see, and it has driven some of 
our key allies to make some sorely needed changes, I think, in 
their security posture.
    My question for you, sir, is with this increased appetite 
for defense cooperation around the free world, what should we 
be doing in the coming years to expand on this even more in the 
space domain?
    General Dickinson. Thank you. That is one of the highlights 
in the Command, I think, over the last 2, 2\1/2\ years, is our 
ability to work with our allies and partners. It has really, 
quite frankly, exploded in terms of our partners coming to the 
table and wanting to be part of the efforts that we are working 
around the world. An example is our Combined Space Operations 
group that we have called CSpOC, just signed a vision statement 
that came out a couple of weeks ago. But that is an example of 
the growing, if you will, the expansion of our partnership.
    Just as an example, there are three different countries 
right now that have actually stood up their own version of U.S. 
Space Command. So the enterprise itself is growing, and the 
willingness to work is just like we have seen in other domains, 
for example, so air, land, and sea. But they are really coming 
and we are working closely together, and it is probably, when 
you look at our integrated deterrence strategy, one of the 
pillars of that is being able to leverage our allies and 
partners in not only situations we are seeing today but ones 
that we do each and every day.
    Senator Peters. Great. Great. General Dickinson, as you 
know, on March 3rd, Russia stated that they will withhold 
delivery of the RD-180 engines that are used by some United 
States defense industries as part of the Atlas V launch system. 
While it certainly appears that this development will not 
significantly hinder any launching operations, I think it 
certainly underscores the importance of supply chain integrity. 
Semiconductors, for example, are a known liability all across 
the many domains.
    So my question for you, sir, is are there additional space-
specific material or technologies supplied by either Russia or 
China that could result in degraded military readiness, if 
withheld?
    General Dickinson. Not that I am aware of.
    Senator Peters. Great. Admiral Richard, you indicated in 
your posture statement that while STRATCOM academic alliance is 
an excellent asset, with over 70 academic and industrial 
partners, quote, ``It is only a fraction of what is needed to 
reinvigorate research and analysis for deterrence concepts,'' 
end of quote.
    My question for you, sir, is what additional ways can we 
leverage the power of American and allied defense industry and 
academia to maintain our strategic edge?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, beyond the academic 
alliance what we did at STRATCOM was put together an analytic 
agenda. What are the key questions that we need research done 
on--three-party deterrence dynamics would be an excellent 
example of that--so that we can harness the power of the 
Department of Defense, and the Nation more broadly? Think your 
UARCs, your FFRDCs [Federally Funded Research and Development 
Centers ], other places where we can do that.
    But even that, this is bigger than one combatant command. I 
think this is a broader Department of Defense or national 
issue. I am reminded, this Nation invented the entire Rand 
Corporation to do not much more than think through deterrence 
back in the Cold War. We face an even bigger problem. I think 
it is going to need an equivalent national-level response.
    Senator Peters. Great. Great. Well, I agree. Admiral 
Richard, you outlined how establishment of the Joint EMS 
Operation Center will facilitate joint electromagnetic spectrum 
operations throughout the Department of Defense and combatant 
commands. But as the electromagnetic spectrum is just as vital 
in terms of homeland security, how do you see the Joint EMS 
Operation Center working with non-DOD agencies as well?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, I applaud where my 
Department is going in understanding the importance of 
electromagnetic spectrum and the fact that we cannot take it 
for granted anymore. It is a contested, congested space. There 
is an EMS superiority strategy that our Secretary just signed 
out. We are responsible for a piece of it. You are hitting on 
that. We are the operational proponent, and so first we work to 
make sure that the standards and certification inside the 
Department in our forces are sufficient. We are moving out on 
that. We provide support, and we are doing that right now, in 
electromagnetic spectrum operations.
    But fundamentally what I do is come back in and provide the 
operational consequence of programmatic decisions. Those 
changes those decisions to our benefit.
    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. First of all I want to 
thank both of you for your clarity and for your commitment to 
the freedoms of this country.
    So Admiral Richard, as we all know we are in a position 
where we have to deter two nuclear-armed, great power 
adversaries, Russia and China. First off, based on the funding 
you received and based on how the Congress has been acting 
since you have had this job, do you feel comfortable that 
Congress has your back that we are going to provide you the 
resources that you are going to be able to deter both Russia 
and Communist China?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, I would applaud my 
Department because over the course of my tour we are now able 
to say, and I expect this in the next budget, but the last one 
was one of the first ones we could say not only was the 
strategic deterrent forces fully funded, so was the nuclear 
command and control, which are the two pieces inside the 
Department of Defense. We are going to need to continue to do 
that. Additionally, Senator, continue to ask ourselves the 
question, what additional capability, capacity, and posture 
might we need to do?
    So yes, I think Congress, as you said, ``has my back'' if 
we would pass a budget. The budgets are adequate. We just need 
them enacted.
    Senator Scott. So right now do you think we have enough 
capability to prevent Russia and Communist China from 
intimidating us and our allies?
    Admiral Richard. Sir, my forces are ready right now to do 
anything the President asks us to do.
    Senator Scott. Admiral Richard, you have been watching 
Putin's statements, and you might not be able to answer all 
these questions, about his potential use of nuclear weapons. So 
I have got a couple of questions. The first one is, have you 
seen any tangible operational changes following Putin's order 
to increase the readiness of his nuclear forces?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would like to answer that 
question in closed session, but I will say we have been 
thinking through this class of problem for years.
    Senator Scott. Second, given your experience of observing 
foreign leaders, which would be part of your job, in your 
personal opinion do you believe America and our allies, 
especially other nuclear powers, should treat Putin's words and 
actions as a legitimate indication that he is crazy enough and 
willing to employ nuclear weapons of any kind?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I will go into more detail in the 
closed session, but I would look to his previous actions to 
give us a clue as to what his future ones might be.
    Senator Scott. I see. The things that he said outside his 
nuclear capability, has he basically followed through?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, again, I would prefer to answer 
that in closed session.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General Dickinson, is the United 
States fully treating our outer space as a warfighting domain, 
and are we developing systems consistent with that policy to 
combat and be able to defeat Russia and Communist China in 
their space capabilities?
    General Dickinson. We certainly have seen some activity by 
both Russia and China over the last few years, going back to 
2007 and 2008, when the Chinese destroyed a satellite on orbit, 
and then just as recently as November, with the Russian Nudol 
event that occurred. So we can see, at least from our 
competitor standpoint, they are, in fact, doing testing and 
development in that domain.
    Senator Scott. It seems like there are people who are 
trying to talk about we ought to cooperate with these 
adversaries, but don't they need to know that we are going to 
deter and defeat them in space and we have to be willing to do 
everything we can to be able to beat them?
    General Dickinson. Well, I think, Senator, that each and 
every day that we are operating in space we are doing that very 
thing in terms of deterrence.
    Senator Scott. Do you feel like you have been given the 
resources to be able to do that?
    General Dickinson. I have the resources that I need to 
perform my mission today.
    Senator Scott. So I believe that Communist China and Russia 
plan to use outer space against us. So what is your biggest 
concern about their plans, and what do we need to do that we 
are not doing?
    General Dickinson. Well, it is fundamental, Senator, back 
to my opening statement when I said in order to be able to 
articulate what is happening I have got to have exquisite 
domain awareness, exquisite domain awareness. I need to be able 
to tell you what I see in the space domain, in terms of space 
domain awareness, as a critical function of that to be able to 
interpret what is happening so that I can make recommendations 
and take actions that I need to.
    Senator Scott. General Dickinson, I know that Space Force 
was recently created, but do you feel like you have had 
sufficient progress toward integrating these capabilities all 
across the Pentagon?
    General Dickinson. Senator that is a great question. Our 
relationship with the Space Force is as you would expect it to 
be. We have got a very close relationship with General Raymond 
and his team in terms of being the service that provides most 
of my capability to the combatant command. We are also working 
with the other services because they, in fact, have 
capabilities that I can use in the space domain as well.
    So it is really not just the relationship and integration 
with Space Force. It is across the Department to each one of 
the services.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Reed.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Admiral Richard, last fall, and again today 
in your opening statement, you referred to a Chinese breakout--
``breakout'' was your term--of nuclear weapons and 
capabilities. Could you please explain a little bit more, just 
in plain English? I am not sure a normal American watching 
would understand what a ``breakout'' means. Explain a little 
more in plain English what you mean and its implications for 
our security.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, so first that is not a talking 
point. I formally informed the Secretary of Defense of that 
fact last year. There are two components that I can talk about 
here. I would be happy to go into more detail in closed 
session.
    First is it signals a significant shift in their capability 
and fundamentally their strategy. China has long been in a 
minimum deterrence posture, which was consistent with their 
stated no-first-use policy. They now have significantly more 
capability than is necessary to execute a minimum deterrence 
strategy, and enables them now to execute any plausible nuclear 
employment strategy.
    Second is on our side. It drove me to have to take 
operational actions in response to a dramatic change in the 
threat, and I will go into more detail as to what those were in 
closed session.
    Senator Cotton. So despite their so-called no-first-use 
policy, they are building a nuclear arsenal capable of 
executing a first strike.
    Admiral Richard. One, Senator, they have plenty of 
capability that have no role in a true minimum deterrence 
strategy, and, in fact, there is no technical difference 
between a system that is designed to go first or to go second. 
There are attributes that enable that, but we need to be very 
conscious of what they could do with it, not what they say they 
are going to do with it.
    Senator Cotton. So I think we should focus on what they are 
spending and what they are building than rather on what they 
are saying, because they could change their no-first-use policy 
like that, could they not?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes, and I put no more credence 
in that than I did in the Soviet Union's no-first-use policy.
    Senator Cotton. All right, Admiral. Earlier this year, 
media reports suggested that the Biden administration wanted to 
cut two nuclear systems from America's arsenal. These were so-
called non-strategic nuclear weapons, weapons with smaller 
explosive yields, designed often to be used against military 
formations. It this reporting accurate? Were there discussions 
to cut the Whiskey 76-2 and the sea-launched cruise missile, 
also known as the SLCM?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, all the capabilities in our 
deterrence portfolio were examined inside the Nuclear Posture 
Review (NPR). Those are included in that, and I look forward to 
the results of the NPR to see what the decisions were.
    Senator Cotton. When is the NPR going to be released?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would have to defer you to OSD 
for that answer. But I do want to make a point about those 
capabilities in particular, which is every capability that is 
in the U.S. arsenal is therefore a reason. It is designed to 
produce an effect against an assessed threat. If we do not have 
a capability, the threat that drove it to be there still 
exists, and so we either as a Nation have to choose to take the 
risk that we can achieve that effect or we have to go find 
another way to go do that, and that is something we are going 
to continue to have to do, even after we finish the Nuclear 
Posture Review. I can give you more details, sir, in closed 
session.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I agree with that, and I agree 
that we are, to a degree, self-deterring while we are letting 
Russia run wild on non-strategic nuclear weapons, yet we are 
considering cutting our own.
    I want to turn to the cancelled test in recent days. 
Admiral, it is correct that we have routinely conducted unarmed 
tests for our Minutemen-III missiles and that we give Russia 
advance notice to those tests. Correct?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is correct, for a long time.
    Senator Cotton. They are routine. They are scheduled well 
in advance. Correct?
    Admiral Richard. Yes, they are, sir.
    Senator Cotton. We cancelled one of those in the last week. 
Correct?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, we rescheduled it.
    Senator Cotton. So let me ask you this. These tests are a 
critical part of keeping our nuclear deterrent healthy and 
viable. Right?
    Admiral Richard. Senator that is a 50-year-old weapon we 
are talking about. I need those tests, and actually I want to 
acknowledge they are Air Force tests, for us to maintain 
confidence in the reliability.
    Senator Cotton. So you can say we rescheduled it, but there 
is a detailed and longstanding testing schedule. So what we 
really did was cancel it. Did we cancel that test because we 
did not want to, quote/unquote, ``escalate with Russia''?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, we are trying very hard not to 
send any escalatory signals at this point. My recommendation, 
in general, has been to maintain our routine, normal, scheduled 
operations. I think we are all very familiar, and that is the 
best posture for us to be in. We very carefully think through 
those to maintain our readiness and to maintain our training, 
and demonstrate that. So my recommendation overall is that we 
maintain that cadence.
    Senator Cotton. I am glad you recommended that. Do you know 
who, above your rank, decided not to accept that recommendation 
of this test?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would like----
    Senator Cotton. Was it the Secretary or----
    Admiral Richard.--to maintain private my specific 
recommendations in this case.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. I will just say that there is nothing 
escalatory about longstanding, long-scheduled, routine tests 
that Russia knows about in advance, and it is just another 
example of how we have mistaken actions that would have de-
escalated this situation rather than escalated it. This is not 
within your combatant command, but if we had been sending all 
the missiles to Ukraine over the last five months that we had 
been sending on an emergency basis for the last two weeks, I 
know that some people fear that that might cause Vladimir Putin 
to invade Ukraine, but how foolish does that look now? I think 
it also is a bad signal not to continue our routine nuclear 
testing.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen, both for being here. Thank you for your service as 
always. Admiral, if I could start with you, just a basic 
question here. You were just testifying to Senator Cotton. 
China is a nuclear power, right?
    Admiral Richard. A near-peer.
    Senator Hawley. Russia is a nuclear power.
    Admiral Richard. Yes, sir.
    Senator Hawley. You were just amplifying to Senator Cotton 
your testimony about China being in the midst of a strategic 
breakout. We see Vladimir Putin making now explicit nuclear 
threats. Is this a good time to weaken our own nuclear 
deterrent?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, recapitalization of what we have 
today is the absolutely minimum that we need to do, and we are 
going to need to further ask ourselves if any else in posture 
capability and capacity is warranted based on change in threat 
and what we are learning out of crisis deterrence dynamics 
right now.
    Senator Hawley. Absolute minimum, you testified. I think 
that is very important. Am I right in thinking that our nuclear 
forces remain the bedrock of our strategic deterrent?
    Admiral Richard. Not only our strategic deterrent, Senator, 
but it is integral and foundational to integrated deterrence.
    Senator Hawley. Including our ability to project power and 
to manage escalation beneath the nuclear threshold. That is 
what you are talking about, I think.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, no other plan or no other 
capability in the Department of Defense is going to work if I 
cannot maintain strategic and nuclear deterrence.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Let me ask your about something 
you wrote in your testimony. You said prioritizing the crucial 
NNSA infrastructure modernization programs is the best and only 
option to pace projected threats and sustain strategic 
deterrence. We have got, in my state, in the state of Missouri, 
we have got the Kansas City National Security Campus which 
supports the nuclear deterrent. We are very proud of that.
    Can you explain why it is important for us to fully fund 
NNSA infrastructure modernization?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, we have reached the point where 
we can no longer deter with the leftovers of the Cold War. We 
have life-extended them to the maximum extent possible. We must 
now start to recapitalize, remanufacture those. That requires a 
very robust infrastructure. We are 10 years behind the point 
where we needed to start recapitalizing the infrastructure, and 
that is NNSA and actually the rest of the complex. The 
consequence is we simply will not have the capabilities that we 
are going to have to have to deter the threat environment we 
are in.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that. You told 
me--switching back to China, Admiral, you said during an 
appearance before this committee in 2019, to me, that China had 
the capabilities required to threaten or to actually use 
nuclear strikes to compel the United States to surrender in a 
potential war over Taiwan. We know that since then China has 
continued, and you just testified to this, China has continued 
to develop its nuclear forces in theater, and Chinese 
strategists are showing interest in changing their doctrine and 
also in the need for lower-yield nuclear weapons in order to 
increase the deterrence value of China's force.
    Is it fair to say that China's ability to engage in limited 
nuclear employment at the theater level is growing?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, not only yes, if you will ask me 
that in closed session I will give you a very vivid example of 
what that could do to us.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. If you could just explain for 
us, why are limited nuclear options like, for instance, the 
supplemental capabilities endorsed by the 2018 Nuclear Posture 
Review, why are those so important for deterring China or, for 
that matter, any other adversary that wants to use non-
strategic nuclear weapons to coerce us?
    Admiral Richard. Limited nuclear use is deterred 
differently than the way you deter the classic large attack, 
and it is designed to make sure that the opponent does not 
think that there is some threshold below which they could use 
the nuclear effect, leaving us with a disproportionate response 
that ultimately winds up self-deterring us.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. General, let me switch to you, 
just in the time I have remaining here. Thomas Shugart, an 
analyst, and others have shown that the PLA is preparing to 
engage in a large-scale, pre-emptive strike operation at the 
outside, or would be prepared to engage at the outset of any 
conflict over Taiwan that we may find ourselves in, in an 
attempt to cripple our ability to project power in the Western 
Pacific.
    It seems to me we have got to assume Beijing may be 
incentivized to strike pre-emptively in space as well, which 
brings me to my question. What are the most important things 
that Congress can do this year to support SPACECOM's efforts to 
bolster the resilience of our architecture in space over the 
next 5 years?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. So it boils down to, 
and Admiral Richard touched on it, is that predictable funding. 
So when I look at the size of the enterprise and the 
requirements and capabilities that we need, it all boils down 
to having a consistent stream of funding that will allow the 
Space Force and the other services to provide the capabilities 
that I will need.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. My time has expired. Gentlemen, 
thank you both again for your testimony. Thank you for your 
service to this country.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, General. The 
open portion of this hearing will adjourn, and we will 
reconvene in SVC-217, in approximately 15 minutes, and that 
would be 11:50 by my watch, roughly.
    This portion is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:36 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                        national guard in space
    1. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, the Fiscal Year 2022 
National Defense Authorization Act asks for additional information from 
Department of Defense about the establishment of a Space National 
Guard. When do you plan to brief the Senate Armed Services Committee on 
the results from the report?
    General Dickinson. National Guard and Reserve members are an 
invaluable part of our team, with representatives throughout our 
Headquarters, and within our components. The industry experience that 
National Guard members bring to the command is invaluable. For 
specifics on how best to organize the space-oriented Reserve component, 
and the results reflected in the subject report legislated in the 
fiscal year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act, I would defer to 
the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD). Additionally, the 
Secretary of the Air Force and Chief of Space Operations are better 
suited to describe the organization of the force.
                        headquarters relocation
    2. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, in your statement, you 
mentioned U.S. Space Command reached initial operational capability in 
August. To reach full operational capability, U.S. Space Command will 
have to establish and fully staff its headquarters. What challenges do 
you foresee in fully-staffing U.S. Space Command to reach ``full 
operational capability'' if the headquarters is moved?
    General Dickinson. Currently, my biggest challenge to reaching full 
operational capability comes from the need for a final decision on the 
permanent location of my Headquarters. We can staff the Headquarters 
with fully qualified personnel and execute our mission no matter where 
we are ultimately based. The sooner that decision is in place, the more 
significant progress we will make toward full operational capability.

    3. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, would you please clarify 
estimates as to when U.S. Space Command would reach full operation 
capability if it was decided the command will remain in Colorado? If 
the command were to relocate to Alabama?
    General Dickinson. I anticipate USSPACECOM will reach full 
operational capability, assuming appropriate resourcing, approximately 
two to 3 years after we are established in our Headquarters location 
regardless of where the final basing decision puts us. In the meantime, 
we will continue effective mission execution as we build toward full 
operational capability.

    4. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, do you have an estimate as 
to how many civilian employees you project to lose if the command is 
relocated to Alabama?
    General Dickinson. Our current civilian employees have chosen to 
live in Colorado Springs. If the final basing decision is elsewhere, we 
would prefer they moved with us. But until we have a final basing 
decision and can announce it to our civilian workforce, we will not 
have an accurate estimate of how many would choose to relocate.
                            space congestion
    5. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, as space congestion 
continues to grow and close calls are becoming more likely, are there 
plans to update the collision screening and notification criteria and 
who leads the updating of that criteria? When was the last update to 
the criteria collision screening and notification criteria?
    General Dickinson. I look forward to the Department of Commerce 
(DOC) taking on the mission as they establish their new space traffic 
management capability for civil conjunction analysis and messaging, 
allowing the military members of the team to more directly focus on 
Space Domain Awareness (SDA). Currently, the collision screening and 
notification process is an enterprise-wide effort led by USSPACECOM in 
close coordination and partnership with NASA. One of my functional 
component commanders, the Commander of the Combined Forces Space 
Component Command (CFSCC), has the delegated authority to define 
emergency-reportable screening and notification criteria for predicted 
collisions. The CFSCC Commander last updated these criteria in 2016 
based on interagency, commercial, and multinational feedback. Since 
2016, CFSCC, implemented continuous process improvements to reduce 
latency and provide more actionable data in coordination with both our 
interagency and industry partners.

    6. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, in your testimony you spoke 
about U.S. Space Command working with NASA on space congestion and 
debris issues. Would you please elaborate on how U.S. Space Command 
works with NASA and other relevant agencies, like the Department of 
Commerce, to address space congestion and debris issues?
    General Dickinson. NASA is a critical USSPACECOM partner in 
mitigating space congestion and debris challenges, and as Vice 
President Harris described in comments at Vandenberg SFB, space debris 
presents a large risk to the safety of our astronauts, satellites, and 
growing commercial presence. The DOD and NASA signed a Memorandum of 
Understanding in 2005 to foster close collaboration on Space Domain 
Awareness (SDA) operations, data analysis, system development, data 
sharing and international collaboration. Today, NASA orbital analysts 
sit side-by-side with 18th Space Defense Squadron (18 SDS) operators to 
maintain custody of on-orbit objects. They work closely on refining 
data and providing actionable and accurate information to space 
operators. 18 SDS provides a team of orbital safety analysts dedicated 
to human spaceflight safety who interact directly with NASA Johnson 
Space Center on the safety of the International Space Station and 
associated missions. Additionally, as the Department Of Commerce builds 
its space traffic management capability, USSPACECOM is helping inform 
development of their processes and practices.
                           responsive launch
    7. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, can you more details about 
those plans, your timeline for completing those tasks and how Congress 
can better support you to bring this capability to operational 
maturity?
    General Dickinson. Assured access to space remains a top national 
security priority. Robust launch infrastructure, and responsive launch 
capabilities are essential to our assured use of space. We are 
fortunate to have our U.S. Space Force service component, and its 
subordinate field command, Space Systems Command, focused on developing 
indigenous military responsive launch capabilities, while also 
fostering industry's development of the same. Prior congressional 
action and direction in support of tactically responsive space launch, 
small satellite constellations, and hybrid space architectures serve to 
inform this development. We appreciate the continued support from 
Congress in development of these capabilities, especially as Congress 
provided the necessary resources to our service components in their 
responsive spacelift organize, train, and equip responsibilities.

    8. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, can you describe why rapid 
launch capability can change the cost-calculus of attacking our assets 
in space?
    General Dickinson. Rapid launch capability is part of the solution 
to ensuring space domain mission assurance in contested, degraded, and 
operationally limited conditions. Providing robust reconstitution 
options increases resilience of the systems necessary for mission 
accomplishment. Additionally, launch capability complicates domain 
awareness tasks and raises targeting dilemmas for an adversary. This 
reconstitution and payload delivery capability raises the level of 
effort--and thus cost--required for potential adversaries to 
effectively negate our space capabilities.

    9. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, how would U.S. Space Command 
make use of responsive launch capability for the warfighting mission in 
the space domain and what needs to be done to better integrate it into 
U.S. Space Command's resilient architecture and concepts of operation?
    General Dickinson. Our fundamental objective is to deter conflict 
in space. Our mission is to protect and defend U.S. and allied space 
capabilities. Responsive launch capability is key to our ability to do 
both. Responsive launch complements our resilience efforts through 
rapid reconstitution of space capabilities and facilitates 
proliferation, which is important to keep pace with competitors like 
China and Russia. We further use it to effectively demonstrate advanced 
capabilities for deterrence purposes. Proliferation in times of war 
adds resilience to essential capabilities; in times of peace, 
resiliency is cost imposing on our competitors' attack strategies and 
key to integrated deterrence. To better integrate responsive launch 
capability into our space architecture, we collaborate with our service 
components in establishing requirements, developing operational 
concepts, and testing and exercising responsive launch capabilities. 
The key is continued advocacy for these capabilities as critical 
elements of our assured access to space.
                           space procurement
    10. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, it is critical that the 
U.S. capitalize on the diverse and robust launch market developing here 
at home. In the Phase III RFI, industry was asked for information that 
should be used to modernize the U.S. Space Force's requirements and 
procurement approach to best match American space lift capabilities 
with the DOD's mission needs. How can you assure this Committee that 
the U.S. Space Force will fully review its procurement approach and 
ensure that it will not create unnecessary barriers to entry or 
disincentivize industry participation with outdating and overly 
burdensome requirements?
    General Dickinson. I defer to the U.S. Space Force to address their 
particular acquisition process, but I agree that finding ways to 
leverage American commercial strengths is critical to competition in 
the space domain. American commercial innovation and capability is an 
asymmetric advantage that our competitors do not possess, and one that 
we should use to the maximum extent possible.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                    u.s. space command headquarters
    11. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, one of the primary factors 
for consideration in any basing decision is cost. With regards to 
establishing a permanent U.S. Space Command headquarters, can you share 
your cost estimate for standing up a new HQ? Can you clarify whether, 
in making this basing decision, the Air Force took into consideration 
as a viable alternative the option of renovating the existing building 
in which U.S. Space Command is currently operating?
    General Dickinson. The Department of the Air Force (DAF) is leading 
the USSPACECOM basing decision process. USSPACECOM offered mission and 
functional requirements to help inform that process. Final selection 
criteria as well as costs were part of that process, and information on 
cost estimates which informed the process are the purview of the DAF, 
and will be part of the GAO and DOD IG inquiry reports.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Tom B. Cotton
                         command relationships
    12. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, I've heard rumors of a 
contested and potentially destructive relationship amongst the highest 
echelons of leadership of the United States Space Force and the United 
States Space Commands. What is Space Command doing to ensure the Space 
Force can operate with its full scope of Title 10 authorities while 
establishing a normal relationship with a nascent service?
    General Dickinson. The Nation's newest combatant command, United 
States Space Command, and our newest branch of the Armed Forces, United 
States Space Force, are critical partners in deterring conflict in 
space, and protecting and defending U.S. and allied interests in the 
domain. The leadership of both organizations understands fully our 
respective roles as outlined in Goldwater-Nichols, and in the numerous 
national level directives and guidance we have been given to inform 
execution of our respective missions. We are dedicated to outstanding 
execution of those roles. The Chief of Space Operations, General 
Raymond, and I collaborate closely and effectively in ensuring our 
collective ability to provide the National Command Authority with 
options for ensuring access to the capabilities offered by the space 
domain. Additionally, our staffs also collaborate daily to achieve 
mission success.

    13. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, do you believe the United 
State Space Force can successfully organize, train, and equip forces to 
provide Space Command with the operational capabilities Space Command 
requires to execute its mission? If not, would you support transferring 
additional manning and resources to the United States Space Force from 
other services or Defense Department Agencies?
    General Dickinson. Although the United States Space Force (USSF) is 
a new service, it leverages nearly four decades of experience in 
organizing, training, and equipping space forces and capabilities in 
its previous form as Air Force Space Command. Under its new structure, 
appropriate for the new strategic environment, the USSF is rapidly 
adapting and applying its force presentation in response to new 
USSPACECOM requirements, and those of the other combatant commands. As 
those requirements evolve, so too should the force structure of our 
largest space capability provider.
                         duplication of efforts
    14. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, some concerns have been 
raised about the confusion and overlap between the United States Space 
Force and United States Space Command. You testified that you consider 
yourself ``a customer'' of the United States Space Force. Could you 
please explain what capability the Joint Integrated Space Teams provide 
that aren't otherwise available from the service components?
    General Dickinson. We designed USSPACECOM's Joint Integrated Space 
Teams (JIST) to integrate space into all combatant commands, especially 
into the front end of operations, intelligence, planning, and 
executing, through education, integration, advocacy, and communication 
of all space-related activities that pertain to our Unified Command 
Plan-assigned roles and responsibilities, both in USSPACECOM's 
supporting, and supported functions. As an example, our JIST 
intelligence professionals link the USSPACECOM J2 and Joint 
Intelligence Operations Center to the other combatant commands. Given 
the United States Space Force (USSF) is a close and critical partner of 
USSPACECOM, we work diligently to ensure that we are not duplicating 
efforts. In support of this effort, USSPACECOM and USSF signed a 
``Joint Space Integration Terms of Reference'' on 17 September 2021 to 
codify and differentiate the roles and responsibilities of the JISTs 
and the Space Force Service Components supporting other combatant 
commands. Overall, JISTs synchronize across combatant commands and 
enable globally integrated deterrence and other operations, while 
combatant command service components integrate capability inside their 
theater of operations.

    15. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, in addition to overlap of 
authorities relating to the utility and potential duplicity of Joint 
Integrated Space Teams, I'm concerned about the duplication of efforts 
regarding space-related acquisitions. Could you explain the differences 
of Space Command's needs which necessitate the demand for acquisitions 
professionals of its own, rather than providing requirements gaps to 
the services?
    General Dickinson. Acquisitions professionals in USSPACECOM are 
primarily program analysts developing, assessing, and overseeing 
capability requirements and operational capability employment. Our 
small staff of acquisitions professionals help identify, define, 
assess, and prioritize requirements to fill operational gaps. 
USSPACECOM then provides those operational requirements to the services 
for incorporation into their organize, train, and equip processes. 
USSPACECOM has an even-smaller set of acquirers whose focus is on 
contracting, purchasing, and budgeting for the headquarters and 
subordinate forces, capabilities that are inherent in every military 
organization.
                          over-classification
    16. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, the fiscal year 2022 NDAA 
required a report on the over-classification of space-based 
capabilities. I am concerned that the fear of disclosure is damaging 
readiness by not allowing forces away from the Headquarters to 
adequately train. I'm worried that our exercises preclude training that 
uses all the tools available because they're unaware of a capability's 
existence or some participants in exercises are unable to share a 
capability with other participants due to compartmentalized information 
restrictions such as Special Access Programs. I understand the 
importance of concealing some exquisite capabilities or particularly 
damaging vulnerabilities, but could you explain how you are preventing 
future over-classification of capabilities and streamlining the access 
to capabilities for warfighters in your command for day-to-day training 
and large-scale exercises?
    General Dickinson. We agree with your concerns and will continue to 
advocate for broader access to classified capabilities so that our 
warfighters can more effectively plan, train for, and execute space 
domain operations for the Nation. USSPACECOM works with all services, 
components, and the intelligence community to review classification 
protocols to ensure we operate all capabilities at the lowest 
classification possible while still protecting any technology or 
operational vulnerability. USSPACECOM is assisting our partner 
organizations in striking the delicate balance of information sharing 
with external organizations, partners and allies while still protecting 
it appropriately when national security demands doing so. For 
exercises, we are working to ensure that we train and exercise at the 
appropriate level for the target audience in order to adequately train 
and prepare our forces.
                       defense of orbital assets
    17. Senator Cotton. General Dickinson, I believe that space is a 
warfighting domain. In that vein, could you please explain why we are 
leaving our expensive and exquisite space-based assets undefended from 
kinetic interference from ground-launched or space-based threats?
    General Dickinson. Challenges to our operations in space are 
rapidly increasing. Generally, defending our assets in space is more 
complicated than defending assets in other domains. Our Area of 
Responsibility begins 100km above mean sea level and extends out 
indefinitely. Physics, the challenge of orbital mechanics, lack of 
traditional resupply capability, adversary actions, and a number of 
other challenges make it difficult to defend our on-orbit assets. We 
compensate for those limitations with proactive and preventative 
measures informed and enabled by space domain awareness and 
intelligence, which help us identify, attribute, and discern intent of 
adversaries engaged in hostile activities. Further, we have equipped 
many of our satellites with other protection mechanisms including 
hardening, shielding, mission redundancy, and maneuvering capabilities 
that help safeguard our capabilities. We then maximize these 
capabilities through exercises and tough, realistic training.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                    minuteman iii test postponement
    18. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, regarding the postponement 
of a regularly scheduled Minuteman III test last week, during the open 
session of this hearing you stated, ``[m]y fundamental recommendation 
is that we maintain our normal set of operations. Day-to-day we very 
carefully craft a series of operations, activities, and other 
evolutions that are designed to show our readiness, designed to 
maintain that readiness, and designed to give us confidence in our 
forces.'' Given these remarks, did you recommend to the Secretary of 
Defense to continue with the test as planned?
    Admiral Richard. Yes.

    19. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, do you believe canceling a 
regularly scheduled Minuteman III test like this increases or decreases 
the deterrence of our authoritarian adversaries?
    Admiral Richard. In the long term, cancelling a single Minuteman 
III test will not appreciably affect the deterrence of our adversaries. 
As I have stated in testimony, USSTRATCOM's forces are ready today. The 
Nation's nuclear forces underpin integrated deterrence and enable the 
U.S., our allies, and our partners to confront aggressive and coercive 
behavior. It is important we maintain our day to day activities 
necessary for near and long term readiness as well as to demonstrate 
our will necessary for deterrence.
                        low-yield nuclear weapon
    20. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, last Tuesday, in response to 
Russia elevating the readiness of its nuclear forces, you stated, ``I 
am satisfied with the posture of my forces. I have made no 
recommendations to make any changes.'' In your assessment, are we and 
our allies adequately prepared to respond to Russian employment of a 
low-yield nuclear weapon?
    Admiral Richard. USSTRATCOM, along with the other combatant 
commands, has been studying and training for this type of scenario for 
years. Specifically, USSTRATCOM is prepared to respond to Russian 
limited nuclear weapon employment as directed by the President. 
Likewise, NATO has stated it is ready to respond against any Russian 
attack. However, our current capabilities are the minimum essential to 
prevail against the unprecedented challenges the Nation and our allies 
face. The situation in Ukraine and China's nuclear trajectory convinces 
me a deterrence and assurance gap exists. To address this, a low-yield, 
non-ballistic capability to deter and respond without visible 
generation is necessary to provide a persistent, survivable, regional 
capability to deter adversaries, assure allies, provide flexible 
options, as well as complement existing capabilities. Such a capability 
with these attributes should be re-examined in the near future.
             spacecom preparation for conflict in indopacom
    21. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, in your written statement 
to this Committee in advance of this hearing, you stated that, ``PLA 
writings on doctrine and strategy suggest that reconnaissance, 
communications, navigation, and early warning satellites could be among 
the targets to attack, a strategy designed to `blind and deafen the 
enemy.''' How is U.S. Space Command working to ensure our forces are 
adequately prepared and supported to maintain all-domain awareness in 
the event of conflict with PRC in the Indo-Pacific?
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM works with all combatant commands to 
exercise and train our capabilities. Specifically in the Pacific, 
USSPACECOM will hold a joint, high-level exercise with U.S. Indo-
Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) in fiscal year 2023 that will allow us to 
work through and refine the supported and supporting relationships 
between our commands. The exercise will provide opportunities to 
practice space-related and theater-specific problem sets within 
USINDOPACOM and extending into the space domain. Similarly, USSPACECOM 
continues our participation in USINDOPACOM's other exercises, 
emphasizing and educating warriors across the joint enterprise about 
space capabilities employed throughout their area of operations against 
near peer adversaries. Additionally, our professional military 
education efforts have focused on educating the Joint Force about the 
challenges in the space domain and why we must train to fight and win 
in ways that leverage our space capabilities and can overcome 
challenges if they are degraded.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Kevin J. Cramer
                   tactically responsive space launch
    22. Senator Cramer. General Dickinson, I'd like to learn more about 
Tactically Responsive Space Launch. In your testimony to the House 
Armed Services Committee last week, you said that responsive launch 
capabilities are part of the requirements and concepts of operation 
U.S. Space Command is working on to develop a resilient space 
architecture.
    Can you elaborate on what those plans entail--including your timing 
for completing those tasks--and how the Congress can better support you 
to bring this capability to operational maturity?
    General Dickinson. Continued launch advancements to improve 
domestic launch infrastructure are national security priorities and 
will support responsive space capabilities and requirements. Rapid 
tactical launch capability must be a part of the Department of 
Defense's solution to ensure continuity of space operations in 
contested, degraded, and operationally limited conditions. USSPACECOM 
works closely with the United States Space Force and its Space Systems 
Command to narrow the gap between combatant command requirements and 
our ability to acquire and field tactically responsive launch 
capabilities. Continued support from Congress for these capabilities 
will posture the command and the Department of Defense for more secure 
and assured access to space.

    23. Senator Cramer. General Dickinson, after a successful 
demonstration launch last year of a ``tactically responsive'' mission, 
you said that responsive launch capabilities can deter adversary action 
in space by changing the cost-calculus of attacking our assets on 
orbit.
    Can you describe in more detail your reasoning for why rapid launch 
capability is such a deterrent and operational advantage?
    General Dickinson. Rapid launch capability is part of the solution 
to ensuring space domain mission assurance in contested, degraded, and 
operationally limited conditions. Providing robust reconstitution 
options supports resilience of the systems necessary for mission 
accomplishment. Additionally, launch capability complicates domain 
awareness tasks and raises targeting dilemmas for an adversary. This 
reconstitution and payload delivery capability raises the level of 
effort--and thus cost--required for potential adversaries to 
effectively negate our space capabilities.

    24. Senator Cramer. General Dickinson, as the Commander of U.S. 
Space Command you're in charge of deterring conflict, delivering combat 
power and defending US vital interests in space. You've spoken about 
the operational utility of a responsive launch capability to rapidly 
launch or reconstitute our space assets.
    How would U.S. Space Command make use of that capability for the 
warfighting mission in the space domain, and what needs to be done to 
better integrate it into your resilient architecture and concepts of 
operation?
    General Dickinson. Tactically responsive launch will provide 
USSPACECOM with the capability to replace degraded assets or buttress 
capabilities as required by the tactical situation. The commercial 
space industry continues to demonstrate faster capabilities every year. 
We can learn from, and leverage that level of innovation. The ability 
to rapidly augment, reconstitute, and replenish our critical space 
capabilities supports increased resiliency of our architectures and 
raises the cost imposed on those attempting to degrade our space 
missions. Building a resilient space architecture capable of rapid 
reconstitution will help ensure that joint and combined forces receive 
the space support they need to defend the U.S., allies, and partners.



  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                         TUESDAY, APRIL 5, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

 UNITEDATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND AND UNITED STATES CYBER COMMAND 
                                POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, King, Manchin, Rosen, Inhofe, 
Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, Scott, Blackburn, 
Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order, and for 
the benefit of my colleagues there is a vote at 10:30, and 
conferring with the Ranking Member we will recess at 10:30, 
reconvene at 10:45, so we can promptly get that vote done, and 
then there will be a second vote later.
    Welcome to our witnesses. Good morning. The committee meets 
today to receive an update on the readiness and posture of U.S. 
Special Operations Command and U.S. Cyber Command. Our 
witnesses are Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special 
Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict Christopher Maier; 
Commander of U.S. Special Operations Command General Richard 
Clarke; and Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, National Security 
Agency Director, and Chief of the Central Security Service, 
General Paul Nakasone.
    I would note that this is likely General Clarke's last 
appearance before the Committee, and I would like to express my 
appreciation for your 38 years of service to the Nation, 
including as the Commandant at West Point and Commanding 
General of the 82nd Airborne Division, but most importantly 3rd 
Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment. Thank you very 
much, sir.
    On behalf of the committee, I hope our witnesses will 
convey our appreciation to the men and women you represent, and 
their families, for their dedication and professionalism.
    For the first time since Congress reformed the 
responsibilities of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, or ASD SO/LIC, 
more than 5 years ago, the office has, again, for the first 
time, a Senate-confirmed Assistant Secretary and a full-time 
Director of the Secretariat for Special Operations, focused on 
the advocacy and oversight of special operations forces. These 
positions are critical to ensuring our special operations 
forces are trained, equipped, and organized to adequately 
support our National Defense Strategy. I appreciate the 
Department's efforts over the past year to institutionalize the 
role of the ASD SO/LIC, but I remain concerned that the number 
and expertise of the personnel assigned to supporting the 
office's ``service secretary-like'' responsibilities continues 
to fall short of what is required. I hope the Department will 
prioritize and accelerate these hiring efforts in the coming 
months.
    The threat from violent extremist groups like ISIS [Islamic 
State of Iraq and Syria] and al Qaeda, while diminished, 
remains real and will continue to require the sustained 
application of special operations capabilities that have been 
honed over the last 20 years. Additionally, long-term strategic 
competition with China and Russia as well as the challenges 
posed by Iran and North Korea increasingly require the tailored 
and often clandestine capabilities that only our special 
operations forces can provide.
    Following our withdrawal from Afghanistan, the special 
operations community is at an inflection point. Assistant 
Secretary Maier, General Clarke, I look forward to an update 
regarding your efforts to focus and prepare our special 
operations forces for the challenges ahead. In particular, I 
would ask that you discuss the capabilities we need to build an 
enduring advantage over our strategic competitors, how you are 
shaping the force of the future through recruiting, retention, 
and building a culture of accountability, and how you are 
addressing the unique challenges faced by special operations 
families.
    Turning to Cyber Command. General Nakasone, the Commander 
of U.S. European Command recently testified to the committee 
about his appreciation for the performance of your command and 
the National Security Agency prior to and during the Russian 
assault on Ukraine. Please convey our gratitude to the 
personnel under your command for their exceptional work.
    I also want to commend General Nakasone, the President and 
his staff, and the leaders of the intelligence community for 
the unprecedented and skillful release of intelligence over the 
last several months that exposed Russia's aggressive intentions 
and deceitful activities. Intelligence officials are 
understandably cautious about revealing hard-won insights on 
adversaries, but this current strategy has proven highly 
effective in strengthening the international community's 
response and creating dilemmas for Vladimir Putin. This is a 
great example of competing effectively in the information 
domain, and I hope we will continue to make this kind of 
creative use of intelligence information.
    General Nakasone, you have been working to mature the cyber 
force and advance its capabilities to conduct defensive, 
offensive, and supporting intelligence operations to counter 
our adversaries. I know that improving the readiness of our 
Cyber Mission Forces is your highest priority. For you to 
succeed, however, the military services must increase their 
numbers of qualified and trained personnel for this mission 
set. Compounding this challenge, the private sector has 
realized the immense value of our highly skilled military cyber 
operators and is offering them very high compensation to leave 
the military. The services must adjust accordingly by providing 
a combination of incentives to retain these personnel. I would 
note that Senators Manchin and Rounds are holding a Cyber 
Subcommittee hearing focused on this critical topic this 
afternoon, and I would welcome your thoughts on the issue, and 
again, I commend both Senators Manchin and Rounds for their 
forward-looking and insightful approach to the problem.
    Over the past several years, Cyber Command and the NSA 
[National Security Agency], working jointly, have taken 
vigorous and sustained actions to defend our elections from 
foreign interference and malign influence operations. General 
Nakasone, with the 2022 midterm elections approaching, I would 
ask for your assessment of our election defense efforts, which 
you have described as an ``enduring, no-fail mission.''
    Finally, I would note that, in accordance with changes in 
the global security environment and President Biden's 
heightened focus on the Indo-Pacific region, Cyber Command has 
shifted a task force to focus on competition with China and has 
created the China Outcomes Group under senior-level leadership. 
The work of these organizations will be of keen interest to the 
committee.
    I again want to thank the witnesses for their service and 
appearance before us today. I look forward to your testimony.
    Let me now turn to the ranking member, Senator Inhofe, 
please.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for welcoming our 
great witnesses.
    As I have said many times, we face a more dangerous and 
complex set of threats than any time in my life. Just last 
week, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said, quote, ``this is 
probably the most dangerous security environment'' in her 25 
years of service. Well, it is the same with me, except it is 
more than 25 years.
    The Chinese Communist Party announced a 7.1 percent defense 
budget increase this year, continuing 2 decades of historic 
military modernization. Every day, they give us more evidence 
that their goals and interests are fundamentally opposed to 
ours.
    Russia's invasion of Ukraine has upended European security, 
North Korea is developing more capable ICBMs [intercontinental 
ballistic missiles], Iran has accelerated its aggression, and 
terrorist groups are reconstituting in Africa and Afghanistan.
    For our witnesses today, you face challenges across each of 
these threats. In addition to growing their conventional 
military capabilities, our adversaries are expanding their use 
of irregular warfare and cyber to threaten the United States 
and our partners.
    I am still working through the recently released 2022 
National Defense Strategy, but I have seen an extensive 
description of the gray-zone expansion and cyber threats posed 
by each of our adversaries. But I have not seen much in this 
budget so far about responding to those threats.
    General Clarke, you have the daunting challenge of 
reorienting SOCOM [Special Operations Command] for a high-end 
fight, even as you will be stretched thin in shouldering the 
burden of the fight against terrorism. Like with our 
Afghanistan withdrawal, I am concerned we are taking too much 
risk there. Mitigating that risk will largely fall on you and 
your troops.
    General Nakasone, the pace of Chinese advances in cyber is 
pretty breathtaking, and our other adversaries are also moving 
fast. We want to make sure you have the resources and 
authorities you need to maintain or regain your advantage. I 
definitely want us to do more in cyber cooperation with our 
allies and partners, so we will have to look at funding for 
that this year also.
    I look to our witnesses to describe how the men and women 
they lead are postured to deal with this array of threats and 
what this committee can do to ensure they have the tools 
necessary to be successful.
    So, Mr. Chairman, I thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Well thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Since a quorum is now present I ask the committee to 
consider the following civilian nominees: The Honorable William 
A. LaPlante, Jr., to be Under Secretary of Defense for 
Acquisition and Sustainment; Mr. Erik K. Raven, to be Under 
Secretary of the Navy; Ms. M. Tia Johnson to be a Judge in the 
United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces; and Dr. 
Marvin L. Adams to be Deputy Administrator for Defense 
Programs, National Nuclear Security Administration.
    Is there a motion to favorably report these four 
nominations to the Senate?
    Voice. So moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Voice. Second.
    Chairman Reed. All in favor, please say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Chairman Reed. The motion carries. Thank you very much.
    Now let me recognize Secretary Maier and then I will 
recognize General Clarke and then General Nakasone.
    Mr. Secretary, please.
    You might want to pull that as close as you can get to you. 
Some of us cannot hear.

    STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CHRISTOPHER MAIER, ASSISTANT 
 SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND LOW-INTENSITY 
                            CONFLICT

    Mr. Maier. Thank you, Chairman. Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify on the global posture 
of our Nation's special operations enterprise, or SOF. I am 
honored to testify alongside General Clarke and General 
Nakasone, two of our Nation's most dedicated military 
professionals.
    On a personal note, and reinforcing, Chairman, what you 
said, I would like to thank General Clarke for his leadership 
and partnership during his tenure as SOCOM commander during a 
time of major transformation and strategic importance. I also 
appreciate the leadership of Command Chief Master Sergeant Greg 
Smith, who is here today.
    The dedication, service, and sacrifice of our SOF leaders 
and the SOF community motivates me each and every day to ensure 
we are doing all we can to provide them the ways and means to 
win, regardless of the challenge. I would also like to thank 
Congress, and particularly this Committee, for its steadfast 
support for our SOF warriors and their families. Since the 
establishment of SOCOM, our strong partnership with Congress 
has been instrumental to fielding the world's most capable and 
elite special operations force.
    We continue to make progress in advancing Congress' intent 
to institutionalize the role of the office I lead, the Special 
Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, within the Department, 
or SO/LIC. Sustaining and enhancing the competitive advantage 
of the U.S. military, and even more broadly the Nation's 
capabilities and future fights, depends on our effectiveness to 
provide the civilian oversight and backing of the SOF 
enterprise. This group of extraordinary military, civilian, and 
contractors has proven itself over so many decades to be 
essential to the U.S. military and strategic success.
    In today's increasingly complex security environment, the 
SOF enterprise provides our Nation's leaders with agile, 
scalable, and discrete options to address challenges across the 
spectrum of competition, crisis, and conflict. SOF play an 
essential role in the National Defense Strategy by holding 
adversary systems at risk and by enhancing our allies' and 
partners' ability to resist aggression and malign influence.
    Even as we transform the SOF enterprise to meet the 
challenges of achieving enduring advantage through integrated 
deterrence and active campaigning, we continue to enhance our 
capabilities to conduct high-priority counterterrorism crisis 
response operations. The President's fiscal year 2023 budget 
request for SOF reflects these priorities in modernizing our 
maritime capabilities and investing in artificial intelligence 
and other key technologies. The budget also supports the Armed 
Overwatch Program to ensure our SOF had the required support in 
remote and austere environments where they operate.
    As reflected in the fiscal year 2023 budget, we continue to 
invest in the health and well-being of our SOF warriors and 
their families. Our flagship Preservation of the Force and 
Families program, or POTFF, complements service-administered 
programs to address the unique physical, cognitive, 
psychological, and spiritual health needs of our SOF community.
    We continue to prioritize enhancing diversity and inclusion 
within SOF. Drawing on a diverse set of talents and 
perspectives is essential to our success in a changing 
operational environment and to SOF's unique ability to engage 
and collaborate with allies and partners around the world.
    The number of women in our ranks continues to grow, and in 
the past 2 years the first three women have successfully 
completed special forces qualification, and last year the first 
woman qualified as a naval Special Warfare Combatant Crew 
member, or SWCC. We are proud of these warriors' individual 
achievements and continue to actively promote a career in SOF 
for all who meet our rigorous standards.
    Lastly, I would like to briefly mention the war in Ukraine. 
Among many observations, it serves as a daily reminder of the 
importance of building the capabilities and resilience of our 
allies and partners. As we watch the Ukrainians employ a number 
of elements of irregular warfare against a larger force to 
great effect, we should internalize the need to continue to 
grow our own irregular warfare skills and continue to develop 
and refine irregular warfare options for our Nation's leaders.
    Mr. Chairman, thank you again for the opportunity to 
testify today. I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of The Honorable Christopher P. 
Maier follows:]

        Prepared Statement by The Honorable Christopher P. Maier
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
this Committee, thank you for providing this opportunity to testify on 
the global posture of our Nation's Special Operations Forces (SOF) 
enterprise. I welcome the opportunity to testify with General Richard 
Clarke, Commander, U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) and 
General Paul Nakasone, Commander, U.S. Cyber Command, two of our 
Nation's most dedicated military professionals and outstanding leaders.
    I would also like to acknowledge the support of Congress for the 
SOF enterprise. Your support and commitment to civilian oversight, both 
within the Department of Defense (DOD) and here in Congress, ensure we 
have the world's most capable SOF. Your support enables the men and 
women of the SOF enterprise to tackle some of the Nation's most 
challenging problems in austere, chaotic, and dangerous environments.
    Today's strategic environment is complex and diverse, with threats 
across the spectrum of competition, crisis, and conflict compounded by 
instability resulting from transboundary challenges like pandemics, 
climate change, and economic stressors. All require SOF, and the entire 
U.S. national security establishment, to be more adaptive, innovative, 
and agile than ever before. We are at an inflection point where the SOF 
enterprise will be called upon to contribute more to counter the 
challenges of China and Russia, while maintaining enduring capabilities 
to counter violent extremist organizations (C-VEO) and conduct crisis 
response to protect Americans and America's interests.
    In alignment with the National Defense Strategy and Secretary 
Austin's priorities, SOF will build enduring advantages, lead and 
support integrated deterrence operations, and actively campaign with 
partners. We will do so by continuing to focus on our people, by 
providing tailored and unique capabilities, and deepening our 
relationships with Allies and partners. As this and prior Congresses 
have made clear, our best chance of success lies in a mature civilian-
military partnership that is led effectively to be far greater than the 
sum of its parts.
        civilian oversight as key to an optimized sof enterprise
    During his confirmation hearing last year, Secretary Austin 
testified that ``the safety and security of our democracy demands 
competent civilian control of our armed forces'' and pledged to empower 
his civilian staff accordingly. The Secretary actively supports 
institutionalizing the role of ASD (SO/LIC) in the administrative 
chain-of-command for USSOCOM as Congress directed. Last May, the 
Department revised the DOD Directive that explains and validates the 
ASD (SO/LIC) responsibilities and roles, further strengthening my 
office's ability to provide civilian leadership, management, and 
oversight of the organization, training, and equipping of SOF.
    Secretary Austin also reaffirmed that the ASD (SO/LIC) will 
continue to report directly to him as the Secretary of Defense in 
exercising authority, direction, and control of special operations-
peculiar administrative matters, and reiterated his commitment to 
ensuring that the ASD (SO/LIC) has a seat at the table alongside the 
Secretaries of the Military Departments in key decision forums, such as 
his regular Service Secretary meetings, the Deputy's Management Action 
Group, and the Joint Requirements Oversight Council. In doing so, SO/
LIC is positioned to provide effective and enduring civilian 
representation of SOF equities and competencies to Department and 
national leadership.
    As you have seen in our monthly section 926 updates, our 
Secretariat for Special Operations has made progress building the 
manpower and expertise necessary to conduct meaningful oversight and 
provide civilian leadership to the SOF enterprise. Though we have made 
headway, our development remains a work in progress. The Secretariat 
has increased its expertise and integration with the Department's 
processes across all of the special operations-peculiar administrative 
matters. We will reach full potential when we have adequate amount of 
staff, leadership, and expertise in place to embed in all relevant 
processes at the required levels of seniority, and adequate facilities 
and communications to execute our mission. I appreciate your continued 
support as we institutionalize these reforms.
    Additionally, General Clarke and I have worked together to achieve 
a new level of transparency and collaboration between our 
organizations. On at least a weekly basis, we review key issues of 
importance to the SOF enterprise. Further, the SO/LIC leadership team 
collaborates closely with senior executives and general and flag 
officers on the USSOCOM staff. This partnership allows SO/LIC to more 
effectively understand and represent unique SOF requirements, 
challenges, and capabilities. Perhaps as importantly, it enables us to 
innovate on the best ways to employ and structure SOF today and for the 
future.
    Our collaboration extends to jointly creating a new SOF Vision and 
Strategy earlier this year that represents a shared leadership outlook 
for the SOF enterprise. We are also working on a longer-term vision as 
we closely collaborate to execute a SOF Force Design 2040. In December 
of 2021, SO/LIC and USSOCOM initiated the SOF Force Design 2040 to 
ensure SOF's future force is constructed to address the future threat 
environment. Through this effort, we will also publish a SOF Operating 
Concept 2040, conduct a capability gap assessment, and develop a SOF 
future force structure to implement the operating concept.
    Looking toward an optimized force for the challenges of 2040 forces 
us to think beyond the pressures of immediate operations and also 
consider what developments might not yet be captured in current 
strategies. It focuses our exercise and experimentation work so that we 
continue to innovate where it is beneficial, while sustaining 
capabilities of enduring value. With this new strategic tool, we will 
be better positioned to analyze the SOF enterprise, continue to refine 
the operational vision for future joint SOF, and articulate SOF's 
ability to deliver global, scalable, and tailorable strategic options 
that enable U.S. national leaders to manage risk over the near, medium, 
and long-term. We expect this force design effort to lay the foundation 
for the long-term direction of SOF, and become the basis for a 
repeatable and sustainable cycle of reviewing, testing, and 
experimenting SOF concepts, force structure, and modernization efforts.
    SO/LIC's dual role in shaping the Department's policy, in 
combination with our administrative oversight and leadership and 
management responsibilities reinforce SOF's role in and contributions 
to the Department's strategic priorities. With our unique twin roles, 
we are positioned to ensure key SOF-led capabilities are integrated 
into strategic concepts, and simultaneously ensure appropriate 
investmentsin areas such as irregular warfare, information operations, 
and undersea capabilities. SO/LIC will ensure SOF concepts and 
capabilities inform and supports the Department's regional and 
functional goals. We will also continue to develop the Special 
Operations Policy Oversight Council to ensure that SOF is able to meet 
the Joint Force's requirements and clearly identifies the support it 
needs from the Services.
         building enduring advantages by focusing on our people
    SO/LIC is also partnering closely with USSOCOM to protect and 
preserve our greatest asset--our people. SOF has always recognized that 
the foundation of its success lies in its people and the Secretary of 
Defense established taking care of people as one of his top three 
priorities. We believe at our core that our single most important 
enduring advantage against potential adversaries is personnel who are 
highly trained and motivated to excel in combat arms and in problem 
solving with partners. Continuing to recruit and retain the most 
diverse and talented Americans for SOF is essential. Over the last 
decades we have asked much of these warriors and their families. We are 
motivated by our enduring commitment to the well-being of SOF personnel 
and families who have repeatedly faced the strains of combat and 
repeated deployments while facing some of the Nation's most challenging 
operational problems. We also recognize that the future operational and 
strategic environment will not be the same as the past and we must 
prepare the force for those challenges.
    Together with senior leadership from USSOCOM, I regularly review 
the health and readiness of our special operations workforce. With 
Office of the Secretary of Defense, Personnel and Readiness, we ensure 
SOF are integrated into efforts to better quantitatively model the 
impacts of force management decisions on readiness and consider their 
cross-cutting strategic impacts.
    We continue to invest in the resiliency of SOF by taking a 
holistic, whole-person approach to the well-being of personnel and 
their families. With the strong support of Congress, SOCOM is 
strengthening the Preservation of the Force and Families (POTFF) 
program to address SOF-unique challenges and to optimize physical, 
psychological, cognitive, social, and spiritual performance. POTFF, 
through a combination of USSOCOM, Service, and Department resources, 
ensures we are able to meet the unique needs in individual SOF 
components and units. The POTFF's embedded service providers have 
broken the stigmas historically associated with those seeking 
psychological health support and have provided preventative care to 
avert potential suicides during the COVID-19 pandemic. We appreciate 
Congress' support through Section 561 of the National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2022 to enable the SOF 
enterprise to extend the POTFF family support program to our Gold Star 
families and embrace surviving families as important members of the SOF 
community.
    USSOCOM's Warrior Care program also continues to provide members 
who have sustained physical or psychological trauma and their families 
with much needed support throughout the process of recovery, 
rehabilitation, reintegration, and transition. We have no greater 
responsibility than to care for our personnel who sacrificed their 
mental and physical well-being to defend the Nation and to provide them 
with a path to return to service and/or to transition to civilian 
careers following their years of service.
    It has been 2 years since the release of the Comprehensive Review, 
an internal review directed by Commander, USSOCOM and ASD (SO/LIC) to 
address concerns about force employment, leadership, and accountability 
across SOF formations. The implementation of the recommended actions 
from the Review is beginning to have a measurable and positive impact 
on SOF culture and ethics. USSOCOM is working to refine data collection 
so that progress, trends, and risks can be identified and so that 
mitigations can be evaluated for their effectiveness. Across the SOF 
enterprise, there has been commitment to ensuring present and engaged 
leaders at all levels to ensure alignment with SOF values. Our work 
will not stop here; SO/LIC and USSOCOM are committed to going beyond 
the Review to create institutional mechanisms that will continue to 
promote cultural changes that benefit the force and its mission 
execution.
    We remain committed to taking further steps to combat sexual 
assault and extremism activities within our community and support such 
efforts across the Department. USSOCOM created the Health of SOF Cell 
to orchestrate efforts in organizational culture and climate, diversity 
and inclusion, and countering extremism within the SOF enterprise. We 
fully support this comprehensive approach and work closely with the 
Cell to promote the healthy organizational climate and culture of SOF. 
Over the next year, we will improve our data tracking and metrics to 
identify areas requiring additional attention, to examine the efficacy 
of our efforts, and to steer our strategy and resources to where they 
are needed and most effective. As we consider the future operating 
environment, we recognize that SOF is not fully taking advantage of the 
Nation's talent pool. SOF's unique capabilities to communicate, 
coordinate and collaborate with Allies, partners, and other foreign 
groups with different backgrounds and perspectives are a critical 
requirement for the future operational success. I endorse General 
Clarke's view that, ``building a diverse force is therefore both an 
operational imperative and a strategic necessity.''
    The SOF Executive Council for Diversity and Inclusion was created 2 
years ago in response to our requirement to take advantage of the 
Nation's talent to more effectively operate in a diverse global 
environment. This forum provides executive level attention to advancing 
diversity and inclusion in the SOF enterprise. SOF Service components 
are increasing their outreach to groups that previously may not have 
considered a career in SOF and working with their parent Services to 
develop more targeted and effective recruiting initiatives. We do not 
need to change our core standards, but we do need to carefully examine 
how we bring in personnel and the process and sequencing of how we test 
the ability to meet the standards.
  providing targeted and unique capabilities for integrated deterrence
    To meet the challenges of integrated deterrence, we must equip SOF 
with innovative, modern, and reliable capabilities that can out-perform 
our competitors in all areas. We continue to invest in technologies and 
capabilities to empower our personnel to operate in denied areas and to 
conduct high-risk air, land, and sea operations in remote and austere 
environments, with a focus on the near-peer threat environment.
    SO/LIC-USSOCOM collaboration on strategy is mirrored in resourcing. 
General Clarke and I now co-sign the yearly Capabilities and 
Programming Guidance used to develop USSOCOM's 5-year Program Objective 
Memorandum (POM) and the President's Budget request. This past year was 
the first in which SO/LIC was able to formally exercise oversight 
responsibility and submit the USSOCOM POM for the Secretary's ultimate 
review and approval. In addition, this is the first year in which we 
also formally designated Armed Overwatch and Undersea Programs as 
``special interest'' acquisition programs ensuring more comprehensive 
oversight so that any problems or issues may be identified early and 
rapidly remedied.
    As the Department's advanced strike and surveillance aircraft focus 
on nation-state threats, SOF deployed to remote locations continue to 
require close air support, precision strike capability, and airborne 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities to safely 
execute missions in support of integrated deterrence and building 
enduring advantages. The investment into the Armed Overwatch program 
will ensure that this dedicated capability exists, allowing high-end 
fighter aircraft to orient towards other critical needs. The Armed 
Overwatch platform will deliver a capability that ensures our SOF can 
continue to operate wherever we need them, whenever they are needed.
    In our SOF Undersea Programs, we are investing in advancing 
USSOCOM's manned and unmanned undersea systems capability with a focus 
on enhancing joint force lethality. We are working with the Department 
of the Navy to ensure the integration of modernized SOF operational 
concepts and investments intended to facilitate access in denied areas 
and greater range for longer periods of time with less risk to the 
operator.
      campaigning and maximizing our work with allies and partners
    In today's security environment, China is our pacing challenge, 
Russia is an immediate threat to our Allies and partners, Iran's and 
Iranian-supported destabilizing behavior continues in the Middle East, 
North Korean maintains a threatening posture on the peninsula, and 
multiple violent extremist organizations continue to pose a threat to 
the U.S. and our Allies and partners. We also see adversaries operating 
in the ``gray zone,'' or level below armed conflict, where they hope to 
avoid provoking a conventional military response from the United 
States. We see adversaries expanding their capabilities in multiple 
domains (e.g., space, cyber, information) and with unique or modified 
tactics and weapons such as small unmanned aerial systems. Our 
adversaries are also leveraging criminal organizations, fragile 
nations, and poor governance to influence global politics, destabilize 
our Allies and partners, seize natural resources, and fund other malign 
activities. Within the SOF enterprise, there are actions, activities, 
and investments to assist the Joint Force and the Nation to address all 
of these challenges.
    SOF's unique training authorities such as the Joint Combined 
Exchange Training (JCET) program maintains our readiness in diverse 
global environments. These small-unit engagements prepare our teams to 
conduct persistent small-footprint irregular warfare and expand and 
strengthen our purpose-built network of Allies and partners. As COVID-
19 restrictions continue to be lifted, we are on pace to almost double 
the number of these training deployments conducted this year compared 
to 2021. These persistent and habitual partnership exercises enable 
critical region access, geographic and cultural familiarity, and 
operational interoperability in support of combatant commander 
requirements for high-priority Allies and partners.
    Based on training, capabilities, and mission sets, SOF are ideally 
positioned to support the interagency, Allies, and partners as they 
develop a wide range of low-visibility options for the purposes of 
strategic competition and campaigning in the gray zone. Drawing on 
decades of counterterrorism experience, SOF has the ``muscle memory'' 
to integrate activities against a number of diverse state-based 
threats, especially in pre-conflict environments.
    Unique authorities provided by Congress, such as that provided 
under section 1202 of the NDAA for fiscal year 2018, enable SOF to 
assure our Allies and partners of U.S. support during competition, 
crisis, and conflict; and provides key access and placement. Section 
1202 is an example of an authority which enables SOF's transition to 
increased focus on campaigning to gain advantages against competitors' 
coercive actions.
    We continue to execute a sustainable approach to combatting 
terrorism that carefully balances risk and resources. SOF will continue 
to prioritize the Defeat-ISIS campaign and to disrupt and degrade other 
violent extremist organization's threats to our U.S. national security 
interests. SOF will also continue to build the capacity of partner 
forces to address and monitor these threats.
    The SOF enterprise now is at a pivot point where we must build 
enduring advantages, lead and support integrated deterrence operations, 
and actively campaign with partners in to provide to our national 
leaders unique and vital capabilities and options in a more complex 
security environment. For the past 20 years, SOF capabilities and force 
structure were optimized for C-VEO operations. SOF is now adapting its 
concepts, force structure, and capabilities to gain an advantage during 
strategic competition, to help drive integrated deterrence, and to 
support the joint force in conflict should deterrence fail.
                               conclusion
    Mr. Chairman, I would like to conclude by thanking the Committee 
again for its strong support for our special operations personnel, who 
work diligently every day to safeguard our national security. Our 
partnership with Congress is vital to our ability to successfully 
fulfill our mission, and your support of the men and women of the SOF 
enterprise is appreciated.
    I thank the Committee again for the opportunity to testify, and I 
look forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Secretary Maier. 
General Clarke, please.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL RICHARD CLARKE, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
               STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND

    General Clarke. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of this Committee, thank you for this 
opportunity. I am honored to testify alongside the Honorable 
Chris Maier and my good friend, General Paul Nakasone. Joining 
behind me is Chief Greg Smith, SOCOM's senior enlisted leader. 
This is Greg's final time appearing before this Committee 
before he retires after 33 years in uniform. He is 
representative of the extraordinary women and men of USSOCOM, 
and I am consistently grateful for his counsel.
    This April 16th, next week, marks 35 years since USSOCOM 
was activated. We are thankful for the foresight and support of 
Congress and particularly this Committee and Senators Nunn and 
Cohen, who had the foresight to stand up USSOCOM. Thank you for 
your decades of continued support ever since.
    Your special operations forces create strategic, asymmetric 
advantages for the Nation across the spectrum of conflict. 
USSOCOM bolsters deterrence globally through our campaign 
activities, all providing critical options for the Joint Force. 
We are also innovating and modernizing to build enduring 
advantage while strengthening our force and family and make 
continual challenges to the rule-based international order. 
Maintaining a range of credible options unpins our Nation's 
strategic advantage.
    We have witnessed Russia's unprovoked and unjustified 
invasion of Ukraine, China's coercive and malign activity in 
the Indo-Pacific, and efforts by other state and non-state 
actors, including violent extremist organizations to sow 
instability. In this dynamic environment, USSOCOM's enduring 
value resides in our ability to combat asymmetric threats, 
particularly in the gray zone and below the threshold of armed 
conflict. We employ precision and surprise to both prevail and 
respond in crisis, and our formations support the resilience 
and resistance efforts of our allies and partners, often 
through sustained, long-term partnership with their special 
operations forces.
    Regardless of the threats we face, SOF represent a critical 
strategic edge to respond in crisis. Exquisite, tailored 
capabilities enable us to undertake sensitive and high-risk 
missions, crucial to safeguarding our citizens and protecting 
our vital national interests.
    A cornerstone of all these efforts remain our longstanding 
partnership with ASD SO/LIC. The oversight, policy guidance, 
and advocacy within the Department of Defense provided by ASD 
SO/LIC are essential for the modernization, readiness, and 
well-being of our SOF and their families. Together we are 
committed to sustaining trust by strengthening our culture of 
accountability. We are preparing for future threats by 
unlocking our Nation's diverse talent, and we are leading with 
our values through our continual efforts to mitigate civilian 
harm.
    As we speak here today, more than 5,000 men and women from 
SOCOM are defending our Nation and standing shoulder-to-
shoulder with partners in over 80 countries worldwide. The 
courage and commitment of over 75,000 members of our special 
operations community are inspiring. As this may be my final 
opportunity before this Committee I would emphasize that it has 
been the honor of my lifetime to serve with them every day.
    I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Richard D. Clarke 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Richard D. Clarke
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished members of 
this Committee, thank you for providing this opportunity to discuss the 
posture of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). I am proud to 
testify alongside the Honorable Christopher Maier, Assistant Secretary 
of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (ASD(SO/
LIC)) and General Paul Nakasone, Commander, U.S. Cyber Command.
    ASD(SO/LIC)'s oversight, policy guidance, and advocacy within the 
Department of Defense are essential for the modernization, readiness, 
and wellbeing of special operations forces (SOF) and their families. We 
have continued to deepen our longstanding partnership through our co-
authored SOF Vision and Strategy documents which provide an enduring 
foundation to guide future SOF activities and investments. This 
collaboration continues as we refine our Future Operating Concept and 
assess force design considerations over the coming months.
    The steadfast support of Congress ensures our Nation's SOF are the 
world's most capable and credible. Your support underpins our efforts 
to bolster deterrence, ensure our enduring advantage through innovation 
and modernization, and strengthen our force and their families. Your 
SOF remain vigilant, ready to respond in crisis, and committed to 
defending the Nation against all threats from state and non-state 
adversaries.
    Today, I am honored to present an account of USSOCOM's priorities, 
activities, and investments to ensure our SOF remain unmatched and 
prepared for the challenges of tomorrow.
    The strategic environment of 2022 is dynamic, but its complexities 
are not new. Nation-states and non-state actors, including violent 
extremist organizations, compete for influence and advantage, acting 
both across domains and transregionally.
    In Ukraine, Russia's unprovoked, unjustified, and premeditated 
invasion reminds us of continued challenges to the rules-based 
international order. Since 2014, following Russia's previous aggression 
in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, SOF supported multinational training 
efforts with Ukrainian SOF forces and provided Military Information 
Support Operations (MISO) assistance to illuminate and counter Russian 
disinformation. Russia's destabilizing activities reinforce the 
importance of USSOCOM's decades-long commitment to enhancing 
interoperability with Allied SOF throughout Europe--a critical asset in 
providing options for the United States and our Allies.
    To preserve and advance our vital interests and those of our Allies 
and partners, the United States must maintain its overmatch in 
strategic deterrence, conventional military force, and space and 
cyberspace capabilities--complemented by credible irregular warfare 
capabilities. Given this overmatch, competitors will prefer asymmetric 
means to attack, erode, or undermine our Nation's advantages and 
interests--particularly our network of Alliances and partnerships. 
Strategic rivals continue to seek advantage through activities in the 
``gray zone'' below the threshold of a credible military response. 
Disinformation continues to be employed at unimaginable speed and scale 
without regard for geopolitical boundaries. The destabilizing impacts 
of climate change, diminished influence of international institutions, 
and political turmoil aggravated by the global pandemic have provided 
opportunities for non-state actors and nation-state competitors alike.
    SOF create strategic, asymmetric advantages for the Nation across 
the spectrum of conflict. Our formations provide options to the Joint 
Force to deter, deescalate, or decisively prevail if war is 
unavoidable. SOF are problem-solvers. Their enduring value resides in 
their ability to adapt and to combat asymmetric threats, including in 
the ``gray zone''; employ precision and surprise to achieve strategic 
effects in conflict or crisis; build access, placement, and influence 
through sustained partnership with foreign forces; and support Allies' 
and partners' resilience and resistance efforts--all providing discrete 
options when conventional action is impractical or not desired.
    To address current and future strategic challenges, SOF are aligned 
with the DOD's strategic priorities. USSOCOM's institutional and 
operational efforts span three broad areas: bolstering deterrence 
through campaigning, innovating for advantage, and strengthening our 
force and family.
                         bolstering deterrence
    After 2 decades of combat, our SOF today are more integrated, 
credible, and capable than at any point in our Nation's history. 
USSOCOM's dedicated men and women have degraded violent extremist 
organizations (VEOs) and disrupted innumerable plots to attack 
Americans and our interests since 9/11--while remaining vigilant and 
ready today. Their courage and commitment are and have been remarkable. 
Notably, twelve SOF servicemembers have been awarded the Medal of Honor 
for actions since 9/11, and three of those recipients are still serving 
on Active Duty within our SOF formations today.
    SOF are bolstering deterrence globally as part of the DOD's 
integrated deterrence approach. Operations over the past 20 years have 
necessitated operating transregionally alongside capable Allies and 
partners, leveraging the unique capabilities of our interagency 
community, and integrating with the Joint Force across domains--the 
foundation for effective integrated deterrence.
    We have rebalanced our activities to prioritize campaigning for 
strategic advantage--comprising nearly one third of our deployed forces 
in fiscal year 2022--while maintaining sustainable counter-VEO (C-VEO) 
operations. Our command is committed to defending the Nation and our 
interests globally, advancing our partnerships, and actively 
campaigning to strengthen deterrence, including in the ``gray zone.''
Defending the Nation
    USSOCOM has honed our capabilities to defend Americans, our 
Homeland, and our valued Allies and partners through our operations 
since 2001. We currently have over five thousand SOF deployed to over 
80 countries. Our National Guard SOF supported wide-ranging operations 
globally in over 30 countries while also deploying stateside to 18 
states last year, providing essential Defense Support of Civil 
Authorities, COVID-19 response, inauguration security support, and 
natural disaster relief.
    SOF represent a critical strategic hedge for the Nation to respond 
in crisis. Exquisite, tailored capabilities enable SOF to execute no-
fail hostage rescue missions and to counter an adversary's efforts to 
produce or deploy weapons of mass destruction. Repeatedly during 2021, 
SOF provided crucial forces and command and control for crises 
requiring rapid deployment, complex problem-solving, and synchronized 
effects--whether responding to manmade and natural disasters or 
safeguarding Americans globally.
    Alongside the ever-increasing capabilities of near-peer rivals, the 
threats posed by select non-state actors will endure. Violent 
extremists will continue to use terrorism as a tactic to achieve their 
objectives. Drivers of extremist violence exist in deep, 
multigenerational ideological divisions that cannot be overcome quickly 
or with military force. Violent extremism and terrorism will persist in 
the decades to come, representing an enduring threat to the United 
States, our Allies, and our partners.
    USSOCOM continues to pursue a sustainable approach to our C-VEO 
operations by prioritizing threats, working closely with international 
and interagency partners, and leveraging expanded options to degrade 
VEO capabilities. During operations to counter the Islamic State of 
Iraq and Syria (ISIS) over the past decade, SOF have played a critical 
role in mobilizing international partners, disrupting illicit 
financing, interdicting foreign fighters, illuminating propaganda, and 
defeating large-scale territorial expansion, when necessary.
    USSOCOM continues to prioritize our role as the DOD's Coordinating 
Authority for CVEO through our Department-wide campaign planning, 
assessments, and recommendations. Our semi-annual VEO threat assessment 
highlights our transregional approach involving multiple Geographic 
Combatant Commands.
    After sustained global pressure since 2001, the threat to the 
United States Homeland posed by VEOs based in the Middle East and 
Africa has diminished. Nevertheless, the threat to U.S. interests 
overseas remains. The continued availability of safe havens coupled 
with local security shortfalls perpetuates the risks of VEOs' external 
attacks. In East Africa, al-Shabaab continues to focus its operations 
within Somalia and presents an ongoing risk to U.S. interests in the 
region. In Afghanistan, ISIS-Khorasan (ISIS-K) has prioritized local 
and regional operations but presents an enduring external threat to the 
United States Homeland and interests abroad. Senior al Qaeda leaders 
also remain committed to attacking the United States Homeland and 
continue to encourage attacks by their affiliates. In Yemen, al-Qaeda 
in the Arabian Peninsula presents a continued threat of conducting or 
directing attacks externally. In Iraq and Syria, ISIS senior leaders 
demonstrate the intent and capability to target American interests 
despite the losses of key operatives and personnel since 2019.
    Violent extremists continue to incorporate new technologies and 
adapt their tactics, posing an ongoing risk to counterterrorism (CT) 
efforts globally. Adversary unmanned aerial systems (UAS) pose a 
pressing challenge, exhibiting a rapid evolution in employment and 
lethality exceeding improvised explosive devices over the past 2 
decades. While the evolving UAS threat from VEOs is troubling, capable 
state adversaries and their aligned paramilitary forces have also 
successfully employed UAS to target American and Allied forces--
recently in Iraq in early 2022.
SOF Campaigning
    SOF's full range of core activities, tailored capabilities, and 
enduring partnerships provide critical options for campaigning to 
bolster deterrence. Our combat-credible forces can undermine adversary 
confidence that aggression will succeed, shaping a rival's decision 
calculus. The access, placement, and influence generated by SOF's long-
term commitments to building partner capacity and improving Ally 
interoperability provide expanded, low-cost options to gain awareness, 
shape the operating environment, or present an adversary with multiple 
dilemmas, if necessary. Additionally, SOF remain ideally suited to 
identify an adversary's challenges in the ``gray zone'' and counter 
those malign activities with firmness while managing escalation.
    USSOCOM continues to prioritize its operations, activities, and 
investments in the Indo-Pacific and Europe while maintaining a 
sustainable posture to counter threats from the Middle East, Africa, 
and other regions. Over the past 3 years, our campaigning activities to 
counter and deter near-peer rivals have more than doubled--comprising 
over 30 percent of our deployed forces in fiscal year 2022 and 
continuing to grow to nearly 50 percent in fiscal year 2023. Our 
command also provides specialized expertise from our stateside forces 
to support Combatant Command priorities globally through Continental 
U.S.-Based Operational Support (CBOS)--a disciplined approach to 
provide tailored, low-density capabilities to support specific 
operational needs. We continue to optimize our global posture to 
counter violent extremists and other non-state actors while sustaining 
the ability to respond to crises worldwide.
    Focused, deliberate campaigning in Eastern Europe over several 
years has supported whole-of-nation resilience efforts among critical 
Allies and enhanced their resistance capabilities if threatened with 
territorial aggression. Our continued focus on honing the core maritime 
capabilities of our Naval Special Warfare and Marine Raider formations 
complemented by exploring creative options to extend SOF's operational 
reach has also improved our ability to act credibly throughout the 
Indo-Pacific.
    USSOCOM has invested heavily to expose and counter adversary 
propaganda and disinformation to better compete in the cognitive 
domain. Competitors, like China and Russia, continue to act assertively 
in the information ``gray zone'' to manipulate populations worldwide. 
As DOD's Joint Proponent for Military Information Support Operations 
(MISO) and the Coordinating Authority for Internet-based MISO, our 
command is adapting our psychological operations forces for the 
evolving information landscape. As part of our ongoing rebalancing 
efforts, our MISO activities to counter strategic competitors have also 
more than doubled over the past 3 years--comprising over 40 percent of 
our MISO activities worldwide in fiscal year 2021. The Joint MISO 
WebOps Center (JMWC) continues to coordinate our MISO conducted via the 
internet and actively engage foreign audiences to illuminate and 
counter hostile propaganda and disinformation online. Since 2021, we 
have incorporated our first foreign partners and interagency liaisons 
within the JMWC.
    Lastly, the critical authorities granted by Congress continue to 
allow SOF to campaign effectively against state and non-state actors 
alike, achieving an outsized impact across multiple mission sets. 
Operations supported by Fiscal Year 2018 National Defense Authorization 
Act (NDAA) Sec.  1202 (Irregular Warfare) have proven essential for 
applying SOF capabilities to expose and impose cost on malign actors, 
and the recent extension of this authority in the fiscal year 2022 NDAA 
will continue enabling these critical SOF activities. Operations 
supported by 10 USC Sec.  127e (CT) provide flexible options to apply 
CT pressure in otherwise inaccessible or contested areas--increasingly 
important as we optimize our C-VEO capabilities. Recent authorities 
under 10 USC Sec.  127f (Clandestine Operational Preparation of the 
Environment) and fiscal year 2020 NDAA Sec.  1057 (Intelligence / 
Counterintelligence) also support SOF activities with greater clarity 
and transparency.
Advancing Partnerships
    USSOCOM benefits from unparalleled integration with our Allies and 
international partners, the interagency community, and the Joint Force 
strengthened over the past 2 decades of operations. While shared 
interests in countering violent extremism and terrorism prompted 
unprecedented levels of integration since 2001, these mutually 
beneficial relationships have extended to the full range of SOF 
operations globally.
    Our network of valued Allies and international partners is our 
Nation's greatest strategic advantage. We cannot surge trust in crisis. 
USSOCOM maintains a global network of liaison officers and exchange 
officers with Allied and international SOF. At our headquarters alone, 
we host exchange officers and foreign liaison officers from 28 Allied 
and partnered nations, offering an unrivaled ability to provide options 
to understand and act worldwide. Through persistent engagement over 
decades, our SOF have fostered extensive interoperability with Allied 
and partner SOF, often intensified by operating shoulder-to-shoulder 
during combat operations for over 2 decades. Authorities under 10 USC 
Sec.  333 (Building Partner Capacity) and 10 USC Sec.  322 (SOF 
Training)--the latter of which enables the Joint Combined Exchange 
Training program--are essential to further enhancing collaboration and 
promoting interoperability.
    SOF's integration with the U.S. interagency community is equally 
important to leverage the Nation's full capabilities to enhance 
awareness and provide expanded options to act. Our extensive 
interagency liaison network facilitates information sharing, speeds 
decision-making, and enhances synchronization for effective whole-of-
government responses. Routine collaboration with interagency partners, 
such as the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) and Department of 
State's Global Engagement Center (GEC), has enhanced USSOCOM's response 
to a range of threats over the past year, including violent extremism, 
adversary misinformation, and near-peer malign activities.
    The ongoing success of Operation Gallant Phoenix (OGP)--a 
multinational C-VEO initiative launched by USSOCOM in 2014--has enabled 
international and interagency partners to share information and 
prosecute violent extremists. While focused upon degrading VEO 
networks, the lessons learned are applicable to future efforts to 
counter adversary actions in the ``gray zone'' and deter aggression. 
Coupled with USSOCOM's Counter Threat Finance authorities and 
expertise, information-sharing operations, like OGP, provide expanded 
options to disrupt illicit financing or deter malign activities.
    Additionally, USSOCOM maintains collaborative, mutually supporting 
relationships across the Joint Force to ensure the most effective 
application of military power. Close coordination with Geographic 
Combatant Commands enables SOF to operate transregionally--particularly 
important as strategic rivals, like China and Russia, pursue advantage 
worldwide. Operating transregionally has proven critical for C-VEO 
efforts and is necessary to counter adversary ``gray zone'' activities. 
Equally strong collaboration with Functional Combatant Commands ensures 
synchronization across critical warfighting domains. Our recent efforts 
to enhance SOF-Cyber-Space capabilities leveraged trilateral 
coordination among USSOCOM, USCYBERCOM, and USSPACECOM in addition to 
other interagency partners. Lastly, our ongoing efforts to promote 
opportunities for experimentation between our components and their 
respective Services have deepened ties, resulted in operational 
breakthroughs, and improved warfighting effectiveness.
    Our role as DOD's Coordinating Authority for Counter-Weapons of 
Mass Destruction (CWMD) draws upon USSOCOM's full suite of 
international, interagency, and joint relationships to counter WMD 
proliferation and deter aggressive actions by state and non-state 
actors. Our recent design and execution of a transregional chemical, 
biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) senior leader forum 
advanced comprehensive partner understanding of the threat and informed 
the development of integrated actions to deter, defend against, and 
respond to WMD use.
                        innovating for advantage
    USSOCOM is innovating and modernizing our approaches, tactics, and 
technologies to build enduring advantage. We continue to invest in 
promising data-driven technologies while also developing a workforce 
well-prepared for our data-driven age. Our command is also accelerating 
our wide-ranging modernization efforts and fully leveraging our 
important acquisition authorities that enable us to capitalize on our 
Nation's innovation advantage--with an emphasis on four key acquisition 
programs: modernized maritime platforms, counter-UAS, Next-Generation 
ISR, and Armed Overwatch. Focused modernization also requires a 
complementary emphasis on divesting dated or obsolete platforms that 
are no longer operationally relevant or effective in the current and 
future environments.
Investing in a Data-Driven Future
    USSOCOM continues to serve as pathfinder within DOD for integrating 
data-driven technologies, leveraging artificial intelligence (AI) 
powered by machine learning, deep learning, neural networks, and 
similar cutting-edge technologies. Our early work with DOD's Project 
Maven expanded our understanding of data collection and algorithm 
development, leading to successive Service-led initiatives. We are 
modernizing into a data-enabled command employing cloud, data, and AI 
technologies throughout our operations from the tactical edge to 
strategic decision-making.
    Over the past year, we have maximized DOD-wide initiatives, led by 
the DOD Chief Data Officer and the Joint AI Center, to further identify 
opportunities to implement data-driven technologies. Our command was 
one of the first to welcome teams as part of the Deputy Secretary of 
Defense's Accelerating Data and AI Initiative in early fiscal year 
2022. We look forward to continuing these important efforts overseen by 
the DOD Chief Digital and AI Officer. We are closely aligned with DOD-
wide initiatives to promote responsible and explainable AI to mitigate 
algorithmic risks, ensure traceability, and guard against unethical, 
illegal, or immoral outcomes.
    Valuable partnerships with academia, national laboratories, and 
industry are central to this effort. In late 2021, we launched an 
initiative with Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Lincoln Labs to 
enable SOF information dominance. We continue to invest in promising AI 
and data fusion capabilities to streamline ISR processing, 
exploitation, and dissemination (PED); identify online disinformation; 
enhance mission command; improve predictive maintenance; and leverage 
robotic process automation to enhance a variety of resource-intensive, 
often error-prone processes. Additionally, our network of liaison 
officers in key innovation hubs across the country--including Silicon 
Valley, Boston, Austin, and Washington, DC--enhances our partnerships 
with academia and industry and supports our command-wide modernization 
efforts.
    Harnessing the full capacity of AI requires sustained investments 
in our talented workforce. Our AI-Ready Workforce initiatives have made 
steady progress since their inception in fiscal year 2020, and we are 
codifying lessons learned in our new SOF AI Education Strategy. 
Partnering with leading universities--such as Carnegie Mellon 
University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology--to educate 
hundreds of senior and midgrade SOF leaders on AI principles and ethics 
has accelerated USSOCOM's progress in implementing AI across a spectrum 
of operational problems.
    Several enterprise-wide initiatives further support USSOCOM's data 
transformation, especially with respect to mission command, 
intelligence fusion, and business activities. Equipping our workforce 
with a modern cloud-computing environment is equally critical to 
developing and deploying AI enterprise-wide. Additionally, our recent 
Data Strategy Implementation Plan outlines the ways and means for SOF 
to harness the power of data across our activities globally. Our 
enterprise-wide data steward pilot enables our SOF formations to 
execute their tailored data missions while preserving flexibility. 
Finally, USSOCOM's efforts to accelerate the adoption of Advancing 
Analytics (known as Advana) enable real-time, data-driven decision-
making throughout our command--including supporting efforts to 
integrate a variety of personnel and readiness systems as well as our 
financial systems.
Accelerating Modernization
    USSOCOM is rapidly modernizing its materiel and systems and 
incorporating emerging technologies to build enduring advantage. Our 
command leverages its unique acquisition authority to modernize special 
operations capabilities in five focus areas: Next-Generation ISR, Next-
Generation Mobility, Data and Networks, Precision Effects, and Hyper-
Enabling the Operator/Biotechnologies.
    We have coordinated closely with the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Research and Engineering (USD(R&E)) as well as the Services to 
collaborate on and experiment in each of these focus areas. USSOCOM's 
unique attributes of being inherently globally deployed, partnered, and 
joint while also possessing acquisition authorities positions us to 
contribute to the overall modernization of the Joint Force. 
Specifically, we are well-positioned to be the partner of choice 
supporting three of USD(R&E)'s technology priorities: within cyber, 
focusing on MISO capabilities; within directed energy, focusing on 
electronic warfare/electronic attack at the tactical edge; and 
biotechnologies.
    Next-Generation ISR enables finding and fixing a target in a 
contested environment and consists of three components: cyber-based 
ISR, space-based ISR payloads, and small tactical unmanned systems. In 
the cyber domain, we will continue supporting DOD's Project Maven to 
automate the PED process while also collaborating with USCYBERCOM on 
the ability to find and fix adversaries in cyberspace at the tactical 
edge. Our efforts in the cyber domain also include capabilities to 
better leverage the full range of open-source data. To better harness 
advances in space, we have established a collaborative arrangement with 
the Space Force and the Space Development Agency to experiment with 
payloads that will provide our forces with space-based capabilities at 
the tactical edge. Finally, we are aggressively pursuing collaborative 
autonomy through our AI for small unit maneuver efforts across our 
portfolio of ground, air and maritime unmanned and unattended sensors.
    As part of our Next-Generation Mobility efforts, we continue to 
modernize our platforms to prevail in contested environments while 
working closely with the Services. We are equipping our existing 
aviation platforms with advanced infiltration and penetration 
capabilities--such as our Silent Knight terrain-following/terrain-
avoidance radar for our rotary- and fixed-wing fleets and radio-
frequency countermeasures for our MC-130s and AC-130s. For the MC-130s, 
we are also exploring an amphibious take-off and landing capability to 
provide expanded options in maritime-focused environments, like the 
Indo-Pacific. We have partnered with both the Air Force for development 
of high-speed, vertical take-off and landing platforms and the Army for 
their Future Vertical Lift program. Finally, we are investing in 
modernized surface and undersea maritime platforms in partnership with 
the Navy. Our efforts in developing, testing, and fielding a range of 
maritime capabilities will strengthen deterrence in the Indo-Pacific 
and across the globe.
    The Armed Overwatch program remains central to our Precision 
Effects modernization efforts--as we advance to a production award 
later this fiscal year. Armed Overwatch will provide responsive and 
available situational awareness, protection, and fires to our ground 
forces executing C-VEO missions in permissive environments.
    Precision Effects are not limited to kinetic fires as we modernize 
our electronic warfare/electronic attack capabilities--best exemplified 
by our counter-UAS (C-UAS) efforts. While our command hones 
capabilities to defeat UAS prior to launch, we are also closely teamed 
with the Army's Joint Counter-UAS Office to detect and defeat UAS that 
pose a threat to deployed SOF and our partners. Through our System 
Integration Partner contract, we have taken an innovative approach to 
C-UAS which will enable us to effectively counter the evolving threat. 
We are pursuing a system-of-systems, open architecture approach to C-
UAS that will allow for the rapid integration of both emerging and 
proven technologies.
    Within the Data and Networks modernization area, we are advancing 
technologies across three broad capabilities: operations and 
intelligence fusion for our tactical commanders, protection of our 
operators from ubiquitous technical surveillance, and influence 
operations in the cyber domain. Our Mission Command System/Common 
Operating Picture deployed after only 1 year of development by 
embracing agile software development techniques and is USSOCOM's 
gateway to DOD's Joint All-Domain Command and Control. As our forces 
operate in increasingly contested environments alongside partners, we 
must provide identity management capabilities to protect them, their 
partners, and their families. Finally, we will continue to modernize 
our JMWC and other MISO efforts with automation and AI-enabled 
capabilities to operate more effectively in the cognitive domain.
    Our final modernization focus area--Hyper-Enabling the Operator/
Biotechnologies--focuses largely on developing emerging technologies, 
enabling us to rapidly deploy promising capabilities. Hyper-Enabling 
the Operator pursues technologies to provide decision advantages by 
optimizing information for individuals and teams conducting partnered 
operations--with the goal of enhancing effectiveness. Our biotechnology 
efforts are closely aligned with our Preservation of the Force and 
Family program to address the physical and cognitive wellbeing of our 
SOF. Our ongoing brain health efforts remain a critical component of 
this effort--combining best-in-market, leading-edge data and AI 
industry partners with nutrition and health partnerships while 
leveraging state-of-science commercial and academic labs.
                  strengthening our force and families
    Our people are the underlying source of strength within our SOF 
formations. The creativity and commitment of these men and women is 
crucial to adapting our tactics and technologies for tomorrow's 
challenges. We believe unreservedly that our first SOF Truth endures: 
``Humans are more important than hardware.'' USSOCOM continues to focus 
on sustaining trust by implementing our Comprehensive Review findings, 
enhancing the readiness and resilience of our teammates and their 
families, and unlocking the potential of our Nation's deep and diverse 
pools of talent.
Sustaining Trust
    Our commitment to high ethical standards, engaged leadership, and 
maintaining accountability within SOF is critical to sustaining the 
trust earned over decades. USSOCOM continues to make sustained progress 
in implementing the recommendations from the 2019 Comprehensive Review, 
as detailed in the forthcoming biannual report to Congress from our 
command and ASD(SO/LIC). Our Comprehensive Review Implementation Team 
has diligently overseen the continued efforts to codify institutional 
adjustments. Our components have taken active roles in refining their 
processes to select key leaders, enhancing ethical training throughout 
the force, and ensuring accountability for lapses that erode trust.
    Over the past 2 years, USSOCOM has made marked improvements in 
achieving sustainable force employment--one of several underlying 
concerns identified in the Comprehensive Review. Through a rigorous 
review of requirements, we have ensured key tactical leaders are best 
postured to provide present and engaged leadership while minimizing 
risk to our missions overseas. Our formations have attained DOD's 
directed 1:2 deployment-todwell ratio for nearly all SOF--while 
steadily approaching the 1:3 deployment-to-dwell goal+--by exercising 
strategic discipline through our force employment processes.
    We are unequivocal that sexual assault and extremism have no place 
in our formations. We will continue aggressively investigating 
allegations of misconduct and holding personnel accountable, as 
appropriate. USSOCOM actively supports DOD and Service policies, 
including ongoing implementation of the Independent Review Commission 
recommendations, regarding sexual assault and harassment that have 
improved reporting processes, victim advocacy, and prevention. Our 
command also remains fully engaged in DOD's efforts to remove behaviors 
that promote discrimination, hate, or harassment and that are 
inconsistent with our oaths to defend the Constitution against all 
enemies foreign and domestic.
Enhancing Readiness and Resilience
    The Preservation of the Force and Family (POTFF) and the Warrior 
Care Programs (WCP) remain central to enhancing readiness and 
resilience for SOF and their families. The POTFF program has evolved to 
foster a holistic, multifaceted approach to human performance, 
resilience, and rehabilitation. Over 60 percent of POTFF manpower now 
supports the psychological and cognitive aspects of performance. The 
increased focus on brain health and cognitive performance--including 
funding authorized for related research in the fiscal year 2022 NDAA--
is necessary to prepare SOF to operate in an increasingly complex, 
information-rich battlespace. SOF commanders overwhelmingly recognize 
the POTFF program as promoting career longevity, improving retention, 
and enhancing quality of life within our formations.
    Caring for our wounded, injured, and ill teammates is a sacred 
duty, especially after 2 decades of sustained combat. Our WCP, commonly 
referred to as the Care Coalition, has led this critical effort since 
2005. Thanks to the WCP's tireless efforts, we have retained over 70 
percent of wounded SOF in military service--with nearly 60 percent of 
these highly trained, skilled, and experienced warriors returning to 
duty within their original occupational specialty. Congress' continued 
support for these programs has enabled these remarkable results.
    Our formations also maintain a persistent focus on suicide among 
SOF. Leaders are increasingly attentive to underlying risk factors 
through enhanced training and education. Through persistent efforts to 
destigmatize seeking care, the number of servicemembers seeking mental 
health resources through POTFF has increased. While we witnessed a 
modest reduction in suicides in 2021 when compared with the previous 2 
years, any loss of life through suicide is tragic and unacceptable. We 
continue to fully support all efforts in this critical arena.
    Lastly, as the COVID-19 pandemic enters its third year, its impact 
on SOF readiness has been moderate, resulting from cancelled or 
postponed events and decreased interaction with Allies and partners. 
USSOCOM's uniformed, civilian, and contractor populations have been 
largely protected through compliance with DOD-wide and installation-
specific risk mitigation measures, including vaccination requirements.
Unlocking the Potential of our Nation's Talent
    The strength of our Nation lies in its boundless and diverse 
reservoirs of talented individuals. Maintaining the world's finest SOF 
in the decades to come requires accessing the Nation's deep and diverse 
pools of talent. Building a diverse force is therefore both an 
operational imperative and a strategic necessity.
    Our Diversity and Inclusion Strategy and accompanying 
Implementation Action Plan continue to guide our efforts with our 
initial report to Congress forthcoming. Our SOF Executive Committee on 
Diversity and Inclusion--chaired by ASD(SO/LIC) and USSOCOM--provides 
senior leader oversight and fosters accountability for sustained 
progress in implementation. USSOCOM is committed to welcoming all men 
and women capable of meeting the high standards required of SOF 
professionals, ensuring these servicemembers are part of inclusive 
teams, and overseeing their equitable careerlong advancement.
    We continue to make incremental, but critical, progress in removing 
barriers to women's and minority participation and advancement within 
SOF. Women and minority servicemembers now serve in key leadership 
roles throughout all four SOF components and within our headquarters--
in several cases for the first time in USSOCOM's history. Women have 
also continued to successfully enter SOF-specific career fields that 
had previously been closed. While these milestones are important and 
notable, they are not sufficient. Sustained focus in fostering diverse 
and inclusive organizations is still required.
                               conclusion
    USSOCOM is committed to creating strategic, asymmetric advantage 
for the Nation. SOF are bolstering deterrence by campaigning in line 
with the DOD's strategic priorities while providing critical options in 
the ``gray zone.'' Our force stands ready to respond in crisis and 
defend the Nation from state and non-state threats. Further, our wide-
ranging modernization initiatives build enduring advantage and prepare 
our force to prevail in the future. Doing so necessitates our continued 
prioritization of our people--our most cherished resource. Our efforts 
sustain hard-earned trust, build resilience within our force, maintain 
quality of life for families, and ensure inclusive and diverse teams to 
succeed on tomorrow's battlefield.
    We will meet the challenges of tomorrow with clear thinking and 
resolve. Our Nation demands it. SOF have proven their innovative spirit 
and determination on countless battlefields over many decades. With the 
continued support of Congress, USSOCOM will demonstrate the strategic 
advantage of maintaining the most credible and capable SOF in the 
world.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Clarke. General 
Nakasone, please.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL PAUL NAKASONE, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
STATES CYBER COMMAND/DIRECTOR, NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/ CHIEF, 
                    CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE

    General Nakasone. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, I am honored to testify 
beside Assistant Secretary Maier and General Rich Clarke. I am 
joined today by Command Sergeant Major Sheryl Lyon, the U.S. 
Cyber Command and NSA senior enlisted leader. We are honored to 
represent the military and civilian members of U.S. Cyber 
Command.
    Command Sergeant Major Lyon and I want to recognize Rich 
Clark and Greg Smith and their families for 36 and 30 years of 
dedicated service to our Nation. Well done, gentlemen.
    Defending the Nation is the heart of U.S. Cyber Command's 
mission. The command has been integral to the Nation's response 
to the current Russia-Ukraine crisis. We have provided 
intelligence on the growing threat, helped to warn government 
and industry to tighten security within critical infrastructure 
sectors, enhanced resilience of the DOD [Department of Defense] 
information network, accelerated efforts against criminal cyber 
enterprises, and together with interagency and allied partners, 
plan for a range of contingencies.
    Coordinating with the Ukrainians in an effort to help them 
harden their networks, United States Cyber Command deployed a 
hunt forward team, who sat side-by-side our partners to gain 
critical insights that have increased homeland defense for both 
the United States and Ukraine.
    United States Cyber Command views 2022 as a year of 
significant opportunity for building our capabilities as we 
pursue five priorities: readiness; operations in defense of the 
Nation; integrated deterrence; recruitment, retention, and 
training; and the Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture and 
Enhanced Budget Control. My goal as the commander remains 
world-class, ready and capable at providing options and 
conducting operations in defense of the Nation with wider 
partnerships and exceptional talent.
    These elements will be essential to national security as 
our Nation faces an array of adversaries who are expanding, in 
scope, scale, and sophistication. Cybersecurity is national 
security. Speed, agility, and unity of effort, brought about by 
the connected relationship between U.S. Cyber Command and the 
National Security Agency is the ingredient that protects the 
United States against our enemies.
    The men and women of the United States Cyber Command are 
grateful for the support of this Committee and Congress that 
you have given to our command. I look forward to answering your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Paul M. Nakasone 
follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Paul M. Nakasone
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe and distinguished members of 
the Committee, thank you for your enduring support and the opportunity 
today to represent the hard working men and women of U.S. Cyber Command 
(USCYBERCOM). I am honored to be here and testify beside Assistant 
Secretary of Defense Christopher Maier and General Rich Clarke.
    Let me begin by acknowledging the dedicated service of our 
servicemembers and civilians at USCYBERCOM. Their mission is to plan 
and execute global cyber operations, activities and missions to defend 
and advance national interests in collaboration with domestic and 
international partners across the full spectrum of competition and 
conflict. Our three lines of operation are to:

      Provide mission assurance for the Department of Defense 
by directing the security, operation and defense of Department of 
Defense Information Network (DODIN), including DOD's critical 
infrastructure;

      Help deter and defeat strategic threats to the United 
States and its national interests; and

      Assist Combatant Commanders to achieve their objectives 
in and through cyberspace.

    U.S. Cyber Command directs operations through its components. These 
include the Cyber National Mission Force-Headquarters (CNMF-HQ), Joint 
Force Headquarters-DOD Information Network (JFHQ-DODIN, the commander 
for which is dual-hatted as the Director of the Defense Information 
Systems Agency) and Joint Task Force Ares. They work with our Joint 
Force headquarters elements, the commanders for which are dual-hatted 
with one of the Services' cyber components (Army Cyber Command, Marine 
Corps Forces Cyberspace Command, Fleet Cyber Command/Tenth Fleet, Air 
Force Cyber/16th Air Force and Coast Guard Cyber Command). The Command 
currently comprises 133 teams across the Cyber Mission Force (CMF), 
approximately 6,000 servicemembers, including National Guard and 
Reserve personnel on Active Duty. The CMF is due to grow by 14 teams 
over the next 5 years.
    USCYBERCOM is postured to execute its missions and meet both the 
Nation's near-term and enduring strategic challenges in cyberspace. I 
shall address the Command's role in the crisis caused by Russia's 
invasion of Ukraine, and then speak to our preparedness for persistent 
threats and in meeting our long-term pacing challenge, China. As the 
Commander of USCYBERCOM and Director of the National Security Agency 
(NSA), I have learned that the Command's linkage with NSA is essential 
to achieving critical outcomes for the Nation in both cyber and 
intelligence operations. The dual-hatted command relationship improves 
planning, resource allocation, risk mitigation, and unity of effort. It 
allows us to operate with speed, agility, and mission effectiveness 
that we could not achieve without it. This is critical to meeting the 
strategic challenges of our adversaries as they grow in sophistication, 
aggressiveness and scope of operations.
                          strategic challenges
    Russia's invasion of Ukraine demonstrated Moscow's determination to 
violate Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, forcibly 
impose its will on its neighbors and challenge the North Atlantic 
Treaty Organization (NATO). Russia's military and intelligence forces 
are employing a range of cyber capabilities, to include espionage, 
influence and attack units, to support its invasion and to defend 
Russian actions with a worldwide propaganda campaign.
    United States Cyber Command (with NSA) has been integral to the 
Nation's response to this crisis since Russian forces began deploying 
on Ukraine's borders last fall. We have provided intelligence on the 
building threat, helped to warn United States Government and industry 
to tighten security within critical infrastructure sectors, enhanced 
resilience on the DODIN (especially in Europe), accelerated efforts 
against criminal cyber enterprises and, together with interagency 
members, Allies, and partners, planned for a range of contingencies. 
Coordinating with the Ukrainians in an effort to help them harden their 
networks, we deployed a hunt team who sat side-by-side with our 
partners to gain critical insights that have increased homeland defense 
for both the United States and Ukraine. In addition, USCYBERCOM is 
proactively ensuring the security and availability of strategic command 
and control and other systems across the Department. We have also 
crafted options for national decision makers and are conducting 
operations as directed.
    When Moscow ordered the invasion in late February, we stepped up an 
already high operational tempo. We have been conducting additional hunt 
forward operations to identify network vulnerabilities. These 
operations have bolstered the resilience of Ukraine and our NATO Allies 
and partners. We provided remote analytic support to Ukraine and 
conducted network defense activities aligned to critical networks from 
outside Ukraine--directly in support of mission partners. In 
conjunction with interagency, private sector and Allied partners, we 
are collaborating to mitigate threats to domestic and overseas systems.
    These measures were made possible by the patient investments in 
cyberspace operations capabilities and capacity over the last decade, 
as well as by the lessons that we as a Department and a Nation have 
learned from operational experience. The current crisis is not over, 
but I am proud of the response of our people and confident in their 
ability to deliver results no matter how long it lasts. Their grit and 
ingenuity have been inspiring.
    Shifting to longer-term considerations, I note that our operations 
are planned and executed in accord with the Interim National Security 
Strategic Guidance. Underpinning our work is Integrated Deterrence. We 
provide combat-capable forces in cyberspace that engage in active 
campaigning to disrupt adversary actions, demonstrate capabilities and 
resolve, shape adversary perceptions and gain warfighting advantages 
should deterrence fail. Integrated Deterrence is multi-partner, multi-
domain, multi-theater and multi-spectrum, requiring us to compete every 
day in cyberspace against military and intelligence actors seeking to 
undermine our Nation's strength and strategic advantages.
    Cyberspace is a dynamic and inter-connected domain where near-peer 
adversaries seek to exploit gaps and seams between our organizations 
and authorities. Such adversaries use a variety of cyber means to 
compromise our systems, distort narratives and disseminate 
misinformation. These actions threaten our national interests by 
impairing the safety and security of our citizens, stealing 
intellectual property and personal information while seeking to 
undermine the legitimacy of our institutions. Our adversaries have 
demonstrated sophisticated cyber-attack capabilities for use in 
competition, crisis and conflict, but I am confident that USCYBERCOM is 
well postured to meet those challenges.
    China is our pacing challenge, which I see as both a sprint and a 
marathon. China's military modernization over the past several years 
threatens to erode deterrence in the western Pacific, which requires 
immediate steps to redress. At the same time, China is an enduring 
strategic challenge that is now global in scope. Beijing is exerting 
influence worldwide through its rising diplomatic, informational, 
military, and economic power. China is a challenge unlike any other we 
have faced. I have therefore created a China Outcomes Group under joint 
USCYBERCOM and NSA leadership to ensure proper focus, resourcing, 
planning, and operations to meet this challenge. Although we recognize 
that much of our effort will be in support of United States Indo-
Pacific Command, China is a global challenge. The success of our 
efforts will depend in part on the resilience and capabilities of 
regional and worldwide partners. We are building operating 
relationships and also dedicating long-term work to enhance their 
cybersecurity and cyberspace operations forces.
    Iran and North Korea are cyber adversaries growing in 
sophistication and willingness to act. Despite our strengthened focus 
on China, we are maintaining our ability to counter these threats. 
Tehran has increased ransomware operations, the targeting of critical 
infrastructure, and influence campaigns (including in our 2020 
elections). We support United States Central Command in its efforts 
against Iranian-backed proxies in Iraq and Syria (as we also did in the 
withdrawal from Afghanistan last summer). North Korea uses its cyber 
actors to generate revenue through criminal enterprises, such as 
hacking-for-hire and theft of cryptocurrency. USCYBERCOM works with the 
Departments of State and Treasury to stem Pyongyang's campaigns.
    The scope, scale and sophistication of these threats is rising. The 
United States faced major cybersecurity challenges over the last year, 
beginning with the SolarWinds supply-chain compromise but extending to 
incidents involving software compromises that affected companies like 
Colonial Pipeline, Microsoft, JBS, Kaseya, and Apache. In each 
instance, our Command worked through CNMF and other components to 
provide insights to our homeland security and law enforcement partners, 
who are the Nation's first line of defense for U.S. systems and 
networks.
    Ransomware can have strategic effects as America saw in the 
disruption of Colonial Pipeline's systems. CNMF has taken numerous 
actions over the past year to combat ransomware in close partnership 
with law enforcement, interagency, industry, and foreign partners to 
disrupt and degrade the operations of ransomware groups attacking our 
Nation's critical infrastructure. CNMF and NSA enabled whole-of-
government actions targeting ransomware actors, passing key insights in 
near-real time. CNMF was a key partner in the whole-of-government 
effort to disrupt and impose costs against those who targeted Colonial 
Pipeline.
    USCYBERCOM (with JFHQ-DODIN) also defended the DODIN against cyber 
threats and helped ensure that disruptions to its systems and data 
remained inconsequential and brief. We continue to innovate in 
enhancing DODIN defenses and countering adversary threats; indeed, we 
must, because our adversaries are agile and adaptive. Key to this 
effort is building resilience in our systems and platforms while 
preparing the Department, the other Combatant Commands and Defense 
Industrial Base (DIB) companies to operate even in degraded cyber 
environments.
               u.s. cyber command posture for the future
    Our success against these growing challenges is a result of 
sustained efforts and investments, not to mention a lot of hard work. I 
should add that that work over the last 2 years took place under COVID-
19 mitigations. USCYBERCOM has been on-mission, running operations and 
exercises with the joint force and domestic and foreign partners 
throughout the pandemic, with negligible workforce transmission and 
slight impact to operations. We will continue to prioritize workplace 
safety, workforce confidence, and mission continuity.
    We see 2022 as a year of opportunity to make progress in several 
areas that will enhance USCYBERCOM's capabilities and contributions to 
national security. With this in mind, I have established the following 
priorities for our Command:

      Readiness;
      Operations in Defense of the Nation;
      Integrated Deterrence;
      Recruiting, Retention and Training; and
      Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture and Enhanced Budget 
Control

    Readiness is priority one. It is foundational to the success of 
operations in defense of the Nation and Integrated Deterrence. 
USCYBERCOM has made progress despite challenges. We improved our 
ability to monitor the status of our cyber mission forces down to the 
team, mission element and individual levels. Across the Department, 
USCYBERCOM is responsible for setting standards for all of DOD's 
Cyberspace Operations Forces. We work to provide commanders with the 
situational awareness they require to assess risks and make informed 
decisions, not just in operations but in maintaining force readiness as 
a whole. We will work with the Services this year to ensure the 
progress we have made over the past year continues.
    Second, along with our interagency partners, we defended the 
Nation's recent elections against foreign interference and are 
preparing to support the defense of this year's midterms through the 
combined efforts of USCYBERCOM and NSA. We anticipate that our 
adversaries will continue using their military and intelligence 
elements to affect our democracy. Thus I appointed a USCYBERCOM general 
officer and an NSA senior executive to oversee election security in 
2022. This is an enduring, no-fail mission for USCYBERCOM.
    Interagency partnerships are crucial in these efforts. Working with 
the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of 
Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency 
(CISA) has demonstrated that we are much stronger together. Indeed, no 
single agency can defend the Nation on its own. USCYBERCOM imposes 
costs on threat actors and provides insights to domestic and foreign 
partners to mitigate and respond to malign activity, enabling each to 
act under its respective authorities. We will continue to collaborate 
with our domestic partners across the Federal Government and the states 
to share best practices and expertise.
    Our adversaries also target our economy. DIB companies are on the 
frontlines in cyberspace and are constantly targeted by malicious cyber 
actors. Over the past year, we have deepened our relationships with 
private industry through voluntary information sharing. Since the 
Nation's critical infrastructure and systems are largely in private 
hands, these relationships have directly enhanced our operations, in 
addition to the security of their commercial systems.
    Third, supporting the national priority of Integrated Deterrence 
means preparing for crisis and conflict while campaigning in 
competition across the full spectrum of cyber operations. It also means 
building the strategic partnerships that enable the defense of U.S. 
systems and networks beyond the DODIN and the DIB. Our foreign 
partnerships begin with our ``Five Eye'' Allies--the United Kingdom, 
Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The circle of partnership has been 
enlarged in recent years as we enhanced existing relationships with 
allies and forged new ones with several nations, especially in Europe 
and the Indo-Pacific region.
    Fourth is building a skilled workforce through recruitment, 
training, and retention. Talent is key to preserving our competitive 
edge against our adversaries. USCYBERCOM has improved its civilian 
hiring with the use of its congressionally-granted Cyber Excepted 
Service (CES) authorities, which allow us to offer competitive 
compensation packages for high-demand expertise. In addition, a 
diverse, talented workforce that expands equity and inclusiveness is an 
enduring goal. To recruit and retain a skilled military workforce, we 
are also grateful for the authorities Congress has granted the Services 
to offer flexible promotion and commissioning avenues in support of the 
CMF.
    Partnerships with academia will aid in engaging the future cyber 
workforce and enriching the strategic dialogue about cyber. Our new 
Academic Engagement network began last year and comprises 93 
institutions, including 10 minority-serving institutions, across 40 
states and the District of Columbia, as of March 25, 2022. Interest in 
partnering with USCYBERCOM is strong and growing.
    Training and proficiency are improving through our mission 
simulation capabilities, particularly the Persistent Cyber Training 
Environment (PCTE). The PCTE is helping us mature cyber operations 
tradecraft, enhance individual proficiencies and enable faster 
attainment of team certification and collective training in maneuvers 
such as Exercise CYBER FLAG.
    The Reserve Component is critical to protecting the Nation in 
cyberspace. As a result of the partnership between USCYBERCOM and the 
National Guard Bureau during the 2020 election, Guard units could 
rapidly share information on malicious cyber activity with state and 
local authorities. Members of the National Guard and Reserve often have 
private-sector experience in fields of strong interest to USCYBERCOM. 
In addition, the ability of the National Guard and Reserve to hire 
cyber talent has been especially helpful in retaining the contributions 
of servicemembers who decide to leave Active Duty upon completion of 
their commitment; members can transfer to a part-time status.
    Our final priority is guiding the Department's investments in 
cyberspace capability through the Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture 
(JCWA) and Enhanced Budget Control. JCWA consolidates and standardizes 
the Department's cyberspace operations capabilities, enabling us to 
integrate data from missions and monitoring to help commanders gauge 
risk, make timely decisions and act against threats at speed and scale. 
The Department is building JCWA and advancing the Cyber Mission Force's 
capabilities for conducting the full spectrum of cyberspace operations.
    USCYBERCOM is grateful to this Committee and Congress for granting 
us Enhanced Budget Control over resources dedicated to the Cyber 
Mission Force. With this authority, USCYBERCOM will improve direction, 
control and synchronization of investments for cyber operations across 
the Department of Defense.
                               conclusion
    U.S. Cyber Command views 2022 as a year of significant opportunity 
for building our capabilities against the five priorities above. Our 
overarching goal is to build a Command that is ready and capable at 
providing options and conducting operations in defense of the Nation 
with wider partnerships and world-class talent, all linked through the 
Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture. These elements will be essential 
to our Nation's security as it faces an array of adversaries who are 
expanding the scope, scale and sophistication of their operations 
against us, and will be critical to developing the right mission 
posture to meet the unprecedented challenge of China.
    The men and women at U.S. Cyber Command are grateful for the 
support this Committee has given to our Command. We can only succeed 
with a strong partnership with Congress. Thank you, and now I look 
forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Nakasone. 
Before I begin let me too commend Sergeant Major Greg Smith for 
his service. We all understand that the great advantage that 
the United States military has are the NCOs and enlisted men, 
and thank you for your service.
    Secretary Maier, we, over the past many years, have been 
trying to create this ``service secretary-like'' posture with 
SO/LIC, and as I indicated in my opening testimony, it seems to 
me you need additional resources and additional facilities. Can 
you give us an idea of what you need to be that service-like, 
Secretary?
    Mr. Maier. Chairman, thanks for the question, and this 
Committee, more than any other I think, has been a huge 
supporter of reinforcing the institutionalization of ASD SO/
LIC, so we very much appreciate that.
    Where I think we have made progress over the last year, 
from the time I was last here, testifying in front of you on 
institutionalizing the role of ASD SO/LIC in the Department 
with, frankly, a lot of advocacy personally from Secretary 
Austin, I think elements of the dual reporting structure that I 
am a big proponent of, where we report up one chain for policy 
and another chain for the service sec responsibilities does not 
translate always well into the Department. It just does not 
graft well in the blueprint. So that puts us, at times, at a 
disadvantage for competing for resources and some of the other 
aspects that we would need in a start-up organization.
    I think your continued advocacy, your continued support for 
funding for staff, and as I think was highlighted in your 
opening remarks, the right mix of expertise, and frankly senior 
expertise, where we are a small proportion as a ratio of senior 
executives who are having the responsibility to oversee many of 
the key aspects of the SOF enterprise, and we are doing it with 
people who traditionally are at a lower rank, as just some of 
the key aspects that we continue to work with the Department to 
reinforce, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    General Clarke, from your perspective as the commander, can 
you indicate how valuable the role is of the SO/LIC, and what 
improvements you might suggest from the standpoint of a 
commanding officer?
    General Clarke. Thanks for the question. Senator, first, it 
is great to have a confirmed nominee that has been consistent 
in the position. Mr. Maier testified last year. Mr. Maier is 
the seventh ASD SO/LIC, either confirmed or acting, that I have 
had. So the consistency for SOCOM is very important, but it is 
also important for those deputy assistant secretaries and the 
structure within.
    The other aspect that I would highlight, Senator, is that 
Mr. Maier now has a seat at the table with the other service 
secretaries that allow him to, one, provide advocacy for SOCOM 
structure and what we need to do in the future for the 
Department but also to provide that advocacy and insights as to 
what the Secretary is thinking. That is everything from human 
resources to the Secretary's priorities, and that has been 
extremely valuable for this command, where sometimes we could 
be working more in the dark without Mr. Maier at the table. So 
thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Clarke. I was 
going to ask questions, General Nakasone, about the need for 
talented personnel, but I think I will cede that to Senator 
Rounds and Senator Manchin today, in anticipation of the 
hearing.
    But I do have a question about the social media data threat 
analysis center. We authorized that in the NDAAs [National 
Defense Authorization Act] of 2020 and 2021. Do you agree that 
it would be helpful to have such a center to provide ongoing 
analysis and trends and also provide some deterrence perhaps? 
Could you comment on?
    General Clarke. Chairman, I can. Based upon my experience 
watching two different election cycles and the work of our 
adversaries to attempt to garner greater influence, I think 
such a center would be helpful. Here is what the center really 
needs to do, though. It needs to be able to look at all of the 
full spectrum operations of what our adversaries are doing. 
What are the tactics? What are the tradecraft? What are the 
procedures they are doing?
    I think the second piece is that what would probably be 
most helpful is this center being outside the Government, a 
federally funded research center or perhaps another center that 
is obviously in support that is able to attract the talent and 
remains very, very vibrant and dynamic in its approach.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Again, gentlemen, thank 
you for your service. General Clarke, please give my regards to 
your father, who was my physical education instructor at West 
Point, and passed me despite my inadequacies. Thank you very 
much.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. I enjoyed that.
    General Nakasone, it is clear that threats posed by our 
adversaries in cyberspace is growing. China is using cyber to 
steal our cutting-edge technologies and Russia is using 
destructive cyberattacks in Ukraine and elsewhere to deter the 
United States and our partners.
    General Nakasone, in the face of these serious cyberthreats 
your stance has been consistent and it has been clear on the 
benefits of the dual-hat arrangement. The dual-hat arrangement, 
for some reason, has become controversial, and I think you and 
I both agree on this. But why is it that that arrangement is in 
the national security interests of the United States? Explain 
that to us.
    General Nakasone. Senator, thank you for the question. I 
begin with just 2018, when I came into the job, both as 
Commander of U.S. Cyber Command and the Director of the 
National Security Agency, and I look at the change in terms of 
our national security today, in terms of what our adversaries 
in cyberspace are trying to do.
    We were not thinking about ransomware in 2018. We were not 
necessarily thinking about near-peers in terms of their 
capabilities in 2018. Very, very focused on coming out of the 
2016 elections, obviously the midterm elections of 2018, and 
then also being able to address a series of threats with 
counterterrorism.
    But over this past 4 years, as you have indicated, Senator, 
the world has changed considerably, and what we see is a speed 
of sophistication and a willingness for our adversaries to 
operate tremendously impactful within cyberspace.
    What we have done is to continue to mature the relationship 
between U.S. Cyber Command and NSA. How do we bring the best of 
what is being done in foreign intelligence and cybersecurity to 
the work that is being done on the command, to be able to get 
after our adversaries? This is what changed.
    So 1 plus 1, we do not want it to equal 2. We wanted a 
force multiplier of 5 or 10 that can get after our adversaries, 
and we are not alone at this, Senator. Our adversaries are 
doing the same thing.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you. That is a great response.
    China views Africa as key to its global ambitions, which is 
why they built their first overseas military base in Djibouti. 
People do not realize that it is not just that military base in 
Djibouti. That was the first military base, period, in their 
history. So they want to build another one on the West Coast of 
Africa.
    Now we witnessed this in Djibouti, and the bulk of the 
United States Forces in Africa are special operations troops 
who work with our partners to build capabilities, collect 
intelligence, and push back on China, Russia, and terrorist 
groups. We should deploy more of these troops to Africa, given 
the growing threats that we have pointed out several times in 
Africa.
    General Clarke, what is your assessment of what the Chinese 
military seeks to accomplish in Africa, and what can our 
special operations forces do to confront these growing threats?
    General Clarke. Senator, I have been to Djibouti many times 
and also see it as a strategic location not just for Africa, 
but what it gives for a platform for us to conduct 
counterterrorism missions into the Middle East, with its 
proximity to Yemen. As a key strategic hub there, the Chinese 
clearly see the same thing.
    For U.S. Special Operations Command in support of AFRICOM, 
it is to ensure that the violent extremist elements there are 
disrupted so they cannot cause a threat back to the United 
States. As far as our ability, by being there really allows us 
to see and sense what the Chinese pernicious behavior is inside 
of Africa, with a great interest specifically in collecting 
resources and minerals for the future. By being there it helps 
us to highlight those for the partners with whom we work.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, and I am glad that we have that 
opportunity. Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General 
Nakasone, it is great to see you, and I just want to give my 
gratitude to all three witnesses today for their extraordinary 
service, especially General Clarke on your retirement. You have 
really been a bright light for many, many years, and we are 
grateful for everything you have done.
    General Nakasone, I have advocated for the need for a 
national cyber and digital services academy, which was 
consistent with the recommendations of the AI Commission, to 
train the next generation of the civilian cyber workforce. This 
would serve as a complement to existing fellowship and 
scholarship programs.
    Looking forward, what are the key competencies that these 
pipelines should be developing? Second and related, DHS 
[Department of Homeland Security] is still in the pilot phase 
of their new DHS community talent management system, where they 
seek to more quickly onboard 150 new cyber personnel outside of 
the traditional OPM [Office of Personnel Management] process. 
Are there any early lessons that can be learned from this and 
helpful to the DOD in increasing civilian hiring?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I think the first lessons that 
we have is we need the largest pool that is possible. This is a 
critical piece of what our Nation is going to do in the future. 
Cyberspace is where our Nation stores its wealth and its 
treasure, and so as we take a look at that, being able to 
attract from a broad range of our society, that traditionally 
perhaps have not touched science, technology, engineering, and 
mathematics is an important first step.
    Secondly is focusing on some of the key competitive 
advantages our Nation is going to need for the future--data 
science, coding, artificial intelligence, machine learning. All 
of these are capacities that our Nation is going to need well 
into the future.
    The third piece, I think, is just the ability to attract 
and to focus on the mission of what really gets done here. This 
is what we have learned at the National Security Agency and 
Cyber Command, is it is the mission that attracts people to 
work in this field. Thank you.
    Senator Gillibrand. Do you have any particular views on the 
development of the national cyber and digital services academy?
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might, let me take that for 
the record, just so I give a more fulsome answer.
    Senator Gillibrand. I appreciate that. How many personnel 
are detailed to domestic agencies, such as DHS, to help protect 
domestic critical infrastructure? The 2018 MOU authorized 50 
detailees. In 2020, DOD scaled it down to about 20, and as of 
last year, OIG report had only 10 filled. Obviously, we are 
trying to position ourselves to defend against any oncoming 
Russian cyberattacks, especially to the civilian sector, and as 
you know, about 80 percent of our cyber networks are civilian 
owned and operated.
    So I would like to know what your perspective is on this 
and how we can create better collaboration so that not only can 
DOD resources, through the National Guard, but certainly NSA 
and other cybersecurity forces can be supportive of what we do 
to create cyber defense domestically.
    General Nakasone. Senator, what we have done, we began not 
only with the ability, as this Committee has allowed us to 
generate up to 50 personnel, but I think the first thing that 
we want to do is make sure that we exchange liaison officers, 
which has been done now, between ourselves and CISA 
[Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency].
    The second piece is focusing a part of my force on direct 
support to CISA. This is a discussion that Director Easterly 
and I have had. It is also the ability for us to look at and 
say, what are the areas that perhaps are unique for our force 
that might be available to CISA and the Nation in the future.
    The third piece is working very closely to better 
understand what are the competitive advantages that we might 
bring from U.S. Cyber Command to what is necessary for defense 
of the critical infrastructure. Thank you.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you very much, General. I would 
like to work with you on creating a more formalized 
relationship between you and CISA for the future, because I 
know that the jointness efforts in New York City are among the 
best in the country. Currently in our cyber protection with 
both assets from National Guard, NSA, NYPD [New York Police 
Department], and FBI, we are collaborating now with over 50 
entities that are deemed critical infrastructure--major banks, 
major supply chain, major energy, major water--and that is 
working extremely well.
    So also for the record I would be grateful for any thoughts 
you have on that collaboration, making sure it could become 
more robust and more formalized. I would like your thoughts if 
you have any today but also for the record.
    General Nakasone. Let me take that for the record, Senator. 
I did have the opportunity yesterday to speak with Director 
Easterly. We were actually in the same location and had an 
opportunity to just go over some of these topics. So that will 
be an apropos time.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, General. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Clarke, special operations forces have an 
indispensable and outsized role in counterterrorism operations. 
Would you agree that without sustained CT [counterterrorism] 
pressure terrorist groups are more able to focus on planning 
and preparing for external attacks?
    General Clarke. I would fundamentally agree. That, but I 
would also add that it is key to do that with allies and 
partners, because then you actually are able to expand and get 
a bigger bang for your buck.
    Senator Fischer. As commander you must be extensively 
familiar with the challenges associated with conducting over-
the-horizon CT operations. Correct?
    General Clarke. I am, Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Can you describe the challenges of 
conducting over-the-horizon CT operations without reliable 
partners on the group, without basing access in neighboring 
countries, and without reliable access to airspace?
    General Clarke. Senator, it is more difficult, and I am not 
going to sit in front of this Committee and say that it is not. 
I would also, on the same hand, though, say that in the last 20 
years we have developed exquisite capabilities, and we can 
conduct counterterrorism missions over-the-horizon, and we have 
exhibited that in the past.
    The most important aspect, from my purview--and I have 
witnessed this multiple times, and you are referencing it--is 
the intel collection that is associated to ensure that you have 
that intelligence to conduct those operations.
    Senator Fischer. We have been successful in the past, but 
have we been successful in the recent past, specifically in 
Afghanistan after we left?
    General Clarke. Senator, I can point to a recent raid in 
Syria to show that we have had success, and we continue to 
observe and monitor in Afghanistan, along with Central Command 
and other intel agencies.
    Senator Fischer. In this setting can you say if we have had 
success in Afghanistan?
    General Clarke. Senator, I think some of those questions 
best be served in a closed hearing.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Secretary Meier, has there been 
progress made towards securing any basing agreements or 
arrangements with any country bordering Afghanistan?
    Mr. Maier. Senator Fischer, there has been but I would 
prefer to talk about that in closed session, due to the 
sensitivities.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Mr. Secretary, our current strategy 
for countering terrorist groups in Afghanistan assumes an 
immense amount of risk. I am also deeply concerned by the lack 
of intelligence collection capabilities that we have for 
Afghanistan.
    In December, CENTCOM Commander General McKenzie stated 
that, quote, ``we are probably at about 1 or 2 percent of the 
capabilities we once had to look into Afghanistan,'' end quote. 
Does the Department plan to develop any additional resources to 
ISR in Afghanistan or is the Department comfortable with the 
current level of risk associated with the current ISR levels?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, the Department is looking actively 
right now at other forms of intelligence. I would not limit it 
only to ISR. There are other capabilities that I think can be 
surged, and that is an ongoing effort to look at those 
opportunities.
    Senator Fischer. Will you be able to discuss those in a 
closed setting with us?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, yes, I will be able to.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    General Clarke, for the better part of 2 decades the 
counterterrorism fight has been your main effort in your 
command. The unclassified summary of the new National Defense 
Strategy clearly states that China is the pacing threat, and 
de-emphasizes other persistent threats, including the threat 
from violent extremist organizations. How do you envision the 
demand signal from geographic combatant commanders changing 
given the shifting priorities under the new National Defense 
Strategy?
    General Clarke. Senator, the demand for special operations 
forces will always exceed the capabilities that we can provide. 
But what we are doing is to ensure that we are developing and 
modernizing to provide unique capabilities such as undersea 
modernization, maritime mobility that could work very well 
inside the Indo-Pacific, and to do things that only SOF can do. 
We have recently stood up a special reconnaissance enabling 
command to look at our sense of activities that can be applied 
globally.
    Senator Fischer. In your written testimony you talk about 
rebalancing the activities, and for the record if you could 
explain how special operation forces are realigning to support 
the priorities that are identified in that National Defense 
Strategy, please.
    General Clarke. I will. I will take that for the record, 
Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, and thank you so much for your 
service to this country.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
testifying, and a special aloha and mahalo to General Clarke, 
as this may be the last time that you are appearing before this 
Committee.
    A question for General Nakasone. In your prepared remarks 
you note that one of your priorities is maintaining a skilled 
cyber workforce through recruitment, training, and retention. 
We all know that recruitment and retention in this area is 
particularly important.
    We have a number of cyber education programs in Hawaii that 
work collaboratively with NSA and DHS, such as the National 
Center of Academic Excellence in Cyber Defense and Center of 
Academic Excellence in Research. However, we also struggle to 
retain these trained cybersecurity experts in Hawaii, where 
opportunities do exist. Yet, we are competing with the private 
sector, among other entities.
    Are you able to meet the demands of an ever-changing cyber 
landscape with the talent that you currently have, General 
Nakasone?
    General Nakasone. Senator, thank you. Very specifically, 
yes right now, but we need to be postured for the future. To 
give you an example, we stood up, at U.S. Cyber Command this 
year, the Academic Engagement Network, over 92 universities 
across 40 different states, to include the University of Hawaii 
at Manoa, which I have had the ability to go and actually talk 
there, and talk with the students there. This is an incredibly 
important piece of what we do because my sense is that as good 
as our technology is, it always come back to people.
    Our talent initiatives right now are focusing on being able 
to develop the next generation. While we have enough for today, 
our Nation needs more for tomorrow.
    Senator Hirono. I think it is a constant need, and so we 
have a situation where we need to recruit or encourage a lot 
more people into the STEM [ Science, Technology, Engineering 
and Mathematics] areas, wouldn't you say?
    General Nakasone. That is correct, Senator. In fact, we 
have a program with the National Science Foundation, Next 
Generation Cyber that is being run by NSA and the National 
Science Foundation, of which we have camps every summer for K-
12, generating interest in science, technology, engineering, 
and mathematics.
    Senator Hirono. Are you finding that you are able to 
recruit women or girls and minorities into these programs?
    General Nakasone. Senator, we are. However, again, I point 
to the fact that it is not enough, and we need to do better in 
the future. Right now our forces, 35 percent female in terms of 
our overall strength on the civilian side and about 20 percent 
on the military side. Overall, in the cybersecurity industry, 
it is at 20 percent. That is a very, very low number for our 
Nation, and so I am concerned about our command, our agency, 
and certainly our Nation in this area.
    Senator Hirono. I think that whatever programs, educational 
programs that we have that would encourage more women and 
minorities into the STEM fields are important, wouldn't you 
say?
    General Nakasone. I agree, Senator. I think the other piece 
that I would add, being the son of two educators, is ensuring 
that the teachers, that we are able to bring this curriculum to 
the teachers that are so instrumental in being able to sow the 
foundation for the future.
    Senator Hirono. I agree. I know that we have to do a heck 
of a lot more to encourage particularly women and minorities, 
because that is a vast, untapped group of individuals.
    Again for you, it is likely that many of our military 
installations in the Pacific would be targeted in the event of 
conflict with China, and it is clear we need a flexible and 
resilient approach to logistics in the Pacific. In her 
testimony last week, General Van Ovost, commander of 
USTRANSCOM, highlighted cybersecurity as a chief threat to her 
mission as it pertains to contested logistics, and highlighted 
partnerships with CYBERCOM.
    In what ways has CYBERCOM integrated with STRATCOM and 
INDOPACOM regarding the vulnerability of our assets spread 
across the Pacific?
    General Nakasone. Two ways, Senator. First of all, being 
able to ensure that the network that U.S. Transportation 
Command utilizes, along with a series of private sector 
companies. This is an unclassified network, it is resilient, 
and assured in terms of being able to do that. We have special 
focus on USTRANSCOM.
    The second piece is working with USTRANSCOM, USINDOPACOM, 
and other combatant commands to ensure that the partnership 
that we have built in the Pacific and Europe are foundational 
to being able to ensure the cybersecurity of these nations as 
we continue to partner with them.
    Senator Hirono. I do have a few more questions that I will 
submit for the record. But I would also like to join the 
Chairman in expressing our congratulations to you, General 
Nakasone, for exposing Russia's aggressive intentions regarding 
Ukraine. That was very helpful to enable all of us to be much 
better prepared for this terrible war that is happening in the 
Ukraine.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Nakasone. Thank you, Senator. I will pass that on 
to my people.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First of all, let me begin by just saying, gentlemen, thank 
you for your service to our country, and General Clarke, to you 
and your team, what you have done over your years of service 
will make a difference in the safety and security for our 
country for years to come, and thank you.
    General Nakasone, my understanding is that the 
Administration has launched an interagency review which could 
lead to revisions to the National Security Policy Memorandum 
Number 13, or NSPM-13. For my colleagues who may be unfamiliar 
with this document, the NSPM-13, along with NSPM-21, allows the 
delegation of well-defined authorities to the Secretary of 
Defense to conduct time-sensitive military operations in 
cyberspace. It is based on the idea of persistent engagement, 
which means continuously engaging in contesting adversaries in 
cyberspace.
    Recognizing that you have just talked about dual-hattedness 
and the fact that that has worked successfully, I think you are 
absolutely correct with regard to the dual hat that you wear. 
Would you share with us, with regard to the cyber effects that 
you have been able to conduct? We have made a difference with 
NSPM-13 as well. Could you just share with us, before NSPM-13 
was in effect, which came into effect after the first year or 
so of the Trump administration, but prior to that how many 
cyber operations or cyber-effect operations were conducted 
prior to that time in the previous 4 or 5 years?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I know of no effects operations 
ever conducted prior to 2018, but I would like to take that 
question just for the record to make sure that I look back, 
since it is before my time.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. I think recognizing that we are 
in an unclassified setting, would it be fair to say that the 
number of these operations greatly increased after NSPM-13 went 
into effect?
    General Nakasone. Senator, two critical events took place 
in 2018. One was this Committee allowing cyber to be a 
traditional military activity in the fiscal year 2019 NDAA. The 
second piece, as you highlighted, was National Security Policy 
Memorandum 13.
    Senator Rounds. So would it be fair to say that the NSPM-13 
would have been considered as playing an important role in 
enabling you to protect the 2018 and 2020 elections, along with 
recognizing that it is now part of a traditional military 
activity?
    General Nakasone. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. If they were to change the NSPM-13 and the 
authorities that you have, is there a possibility that your 
capability to conduct cyber effects operations may be affected?
    General Nakasone. So certainly, Senator, we would take a 
look at any changes, obviously, and we will adjust to those 
changes. But significant changes to that NSPM, it could affect 
what we need to do.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Nakasone, the members 
under your command are highly trained technical experts. There 
is a high demand in the global market for their skill sets. I 
understand that the service components are responsible for 
recruiting and retaining these individuals, but their retention 
directly affects your ability to conduct operations. Senator 
Manchin, as chair of the Cyber Subcommittee, and myself, as 
ranking member, I know we are having a specific subcommittee 
discussion on that this afternoon. But in this open setting I 
think it is critical to discuss the need about, number one, 
either the volume of individuals coming in, the ability to 
retain them for a longer period of time, but also when they 
come to you from the services, because they are theoretically 
supposed to be trained at the service level and then delivered 
to you for the operations, are they in a position today to be 
used directly in operations or do you have to go through an 
extensive retraining or additional training of these 
individuals?
    General Nakasone. Senator, first of all thanks to you and 
Senator Manchin for the hearing you are going to hold this 
afternoon. When I look at readiness, really three parts to the 
readiness with our cyber forces. First of all, what the 
services are responsible for, the man, train, and equip piece 
of that, for 6,187 cyber warriors.
    Secondly, it is what we at U.S. Cyber Command and the 
National Security Agency must do to provide additional 
training. This is above and beyond what someone would come into 
the service and need to be able to be effective on our teams.
    The third piece is I think the critical piece that you have 
highlighted, which is retention and the ability for our cyber 
warriors to continue to stay within our force. That is a shared 
mission between the service and U.S. Cyber Command. I take that 
very seriously. I have worked very closely with the service 
chiefs to make sure that all three of those areas are going to 
be balanced in the future. We have work to do.
    Senator Rounds. So in other words, if you get them and they 
are not ready to go on the job day one, and you are training 
them, that takes time away from the time that they are then 
available for your use by a significant amount of time.
    General Nakasone. It does, but I would say, Senator, that 
there is a basic level that the services have to meet, and for 
the most part they meet that all the time. It is us being able 
to do the advanced training that is so necessary for them to be 
effective as part of our teams.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and General 
Clarke, thank you so much for your service. Thank you all for 
testifying this morning.
    General Clarke, I know that The New York Times has pointed 
out that you all had been very involved in Ukraine, and we 
discussed this yesterday, in terms of providing training to 
them that began in 2014. Can you talk about how important that 
has been in providing the expertise that we are now seeing on 
the battlefield in Ukraine?
    General Clarke. Senator, I hit a few highlights. One is the 
competency towards the security force assistance and 
specifically the high-end training that we did for the 
Ukrainian special operations forces. But I would also highlight 
for the Committee the military information support ops, or 
information warfare, that we had a dedicated team that was in 
the Ukraine for 8 years, providing that, and that was 
everything from billboard to print to using internet-based 
capabilities, along with civil affairs teams that were working 
with them. It really, as we see today, the resistance that the 
Ukrainian forces have held and the training that they were 
given I think directly contributed to the success on the 
battlefield.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and you mentioned the 
importance of the information warfare that has occurred there, 
and clearly Ukraine has been masterful at what they have been 
doing. Of course, Putin also has good a good job in preventing 
his citizens in Russia from knowing what is actually going on 
on the battlefield.
    Can you talk a little bit about whether we should develop, 
or maybe we already have, a gray zone strategy to encompass 
that kind of information warfare as we are looking at 
particular conflict areas around the world.
    General Clarke. Senator, you are pointing at a really key 
factor, and yes, we have already begun this, in coordination 
with ASD SO/LIC and particularly with CYBERCOM, where much of 
the delivery of information resides. It is critical, and I 
would say we already have the authorities, in many cases, to 
conduct information operations. We just have to make sure that 
they are, in fact, directed at the right audiences and that we 
work very closely with our Department of State colleagues and 
the interagency so that we are delivering proper effects at the 
right point in time.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. General Nakasone, what is 
CYBERCOM's role in defending the Homeland from foreign cyber 
threats beyond just the critical infrastructure protection, and 
how are you working with public and private partners to protect 
the country, as we have looked at the potential for the Russian 
Government to attack our critical infrastructure and we still 
are concerned that that might happen? What are you doing?
    General Nakasone. Senator, it begins outside the United 
States, where my authorities rest, and that is through a series 
of persistent engagement campaigns against malicious cyber 
actors that intend to do our Nation harm, with the National 
Security Agency being able to release that information, so when 
we do a hunt forward operation in a specific country, being 
able to understand the tradecraft and the malware. Then 
releasing it publicly provides an antidote to what they might 
do, and then within the United States, working closely in 
support of Department of Homeland Security and CISA, providing 
them any assistant that they need in terms of capacity or 
capabilities.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Mr. Maier, one of the things 
that we have seen, and you mentioned this in your opening 
statement, you talked about the effort to encourage more women 
to join SOF. We have seen, in Afghanistan, with the Female 
Tactical Platoon, and Syria, with the Women's Protection Units, 
we are now seeing in Ukraine the important role that women are 
playing in conflict, and they are actually getting more 
attention today than they were in years past.
    So can you talk about what we are doing to work with our 
international partners to highlight the role of women and make 
sure that they have the attention and support they need when we 
are working in an area?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I think we concretely say that women in 
SOF are an operational imperative because of the ability to do 
some of the things you described in your question. It is 
critically, and especially some of the areas we have 
traditionally worked, to be able to have women that are 
operators or have exquisite skills go to areas to be able to 
gather information that, frankly, men cannot go, or have a 
different outreach capability to different parts of 
communities. As we look toward the future fight, whether it is 
against gray zone competitors and non-state actors or state 
actors, we are going to need that capability. It is a force 
multiplier, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and gentlemen, thank 
you very much for your service to our country. General Clarke, 
to you and Suzanne, and Chief Smith, to you and Tina. Thank you 
very much for your collaborative efforts in supporting our SOF 
warriors and their teams.
    There is no doubt that our special operations forces are 
the most capable of military elements on the globe, and of 
course our cyber forces, General Nakasone, are essential to the 
defense of this Nation. We have to ensure that both of these 
elements are fully resourced and modernized to defeat the 
current threats to our national security.
    So General Clarke, the health of the force is the fifth 
pillar in your command, and it ties into directly the first SOF 
truth, which is humans are more important than hardware. I 
think we all believe that, and I, like you, want to make sure 
that we are providing our servicemembers with the best care 
possible.
    So can you talk through SOCOM's efforts focused on brain 
and behavioral health for our servicemembers and, of course, 
for their loved ones as well?
    General Clarke. Thank you, Senator. Our people are our most 
precious resource and we have got to put the resources behind 
that to ensure they are taken care of. Specifically, the Brain 
Health Initiative falling with the Preservation of the Force 
and Family is one of the critical things we do.
    We focused initially on the physical domain because that is 
what you could see. But what we are finding is through the 
invisible wounds, TBI [traumatic brain injury], multiple 
explosions, multiple breaches in proximity to those explosions 
is having an impact, and so we are working very closely.
    I recently went up, with Chief Greg Smith, up to Boston, 
where we are working with Mass General and a couple of academic 
departments and universities up there to look at how we can do 
imaging that previous we could not do except on a cadaver. This 
may be groundbreaking for us to be able to determine beforehand 
what some of our operators may be going through.
    As you are well aware, we stood up an additional pillar 
within our Preservation of the Force and Family specifically 
towards the cognitive domain, because we realize that this is 
the most important part for our people is what is inside their 
brain housing group, that they can make the right decisions, 
and it affects everything they do. So we are going to continue 
working to improve our operators' and their families' lives.
    Senator Ernst. I appreciate that, sir. It is so important, 
and you brought up Preservation of the Force and Family, as did 
ASD SO/LIC Maier. But how can we take this program and sustain 
improvements in how our military approach is sustaining those 
SOF operators? Again, just focused on POTFF, how do we sustain 
and improve?
    General Clarke. Senator, the key for us is the sustained 
funding that we need in order to do that, and most of that 
funding attributes to the people that we have to support the 
Preservation of the Force and Family program.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, and just very briefly as well, I 
want to talk a little bit about your operational posture, 
General Clarke. I am frustrated by a number of mobilizations 
within terror networks, whether it is Russia and China across 
Africa, what we see in South America, Eastern Europe, all these 
hot zone conflicts that are currently ongoing.
    What does supporting your unfunded requirement list, or 
what I like to think of as risk assessment list, by us in these 
particular theaters?
    General Clarke. Senator, what it provides us, if we find 
support for the unfunded, it buys down risk, because we are 
able to modernize faster, and then we are also to ensure 
readiness, that we are placing the appropriate dollars towards 
those unfunded requirements. We will buy some of that back.
    Senator Ernst. For me, Mr. Chair, that is extremely 
important that we are able to focus on these unfunded 
requirements because they are so important within the area of 
SOCOM, and making sure that we are taking one of our smallest, 
most agile elements and being able to use them as a force 
multiplier.
    So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, gentlemen, very much 
for being here today.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Ernst.
    The vote has commenced, and as I indicated at the beginning 
of the hearing, and with the concurrence of Senator Inhofe, we 
will recess for approximately 10 minutes. We will rejoin the 
hearing at the call of the chair, but approximately 10 minutes, 
so we can accomplish this vote, and then get on with the 
hearing.
    The Committee stands in recess.
    [Recess.]
    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order again. I 
thank the witnesses for their understanding as we voted, and 
let me recognize Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed. It pays to be the 
first one back from votes, does it not? So thank you. I want to 
thank you for testifying. Thank you for your years of service 
and continual service. I know you are going to continue to 
serve on, and for everyone else that is here.
    But we have got a lot going on with Russia, so I want to 
talk about Russian cyber threats, General Nakasone, because 
last month President Biden warned that Russia is exploring 
options for cyberattacks targeting the United States. The 
elevated threat level comes as we know Russia is launching 
cyberattacks against Ukraine, hitting the country's national 
telecommunications industry just last week, and causing great 
denial of service, service disruptions.
    Last week Senator Rounds and I called on the Administration 
to brief Congress on how we are protecting critical 
infrastructure right here in the U.S., and I am happy to report 
that just last night Director Easterly was with us in a 
classified briefing to talk about what CISA is doing.
    Can you tell me how CYBERCOM has been coordinating with 
Ukraine to harden their networks, and as you conduct your hurt 
forward operations to identify network vulnerabilities are you 
sharing that not just with Ukraine but all the NATO [North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization] allies, particularly the border 
countries that are helping to provide that military and 
humanitarian relief?
    General Nakasone. Yes, Senator. As I mentioned, we had a 
hunt forward team that deployed to Ukraine at the end of 2021, 
and spent well over 2 months working with our partners there to 
harden their networks, focused on a number of key critical 
assets.
    The big piece about hunt forward, though, is not only the 
fact that we understand the networks of our allies and partners 
as they invite us in there but it also understanding what our 
adversaries are doing, and then to your point, sharing that 
broadly, not only with our partners and NATO but also with the 
private sector. Critical infrastructure is within the private 
sector, so as we expose these types of things they are broadly 
being able to shine a light on this type of activity.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, I think it is important, and I know 
this is not classified but can you speak broadly about some of 
the insights that we have gained? Are they using their state-
sponsored networks? Are they using criminal networks?
    General Nakasone. So broadly, Senator, what I would say is 
what we learned is obviously what we had a pretty clear 
indication, which is the fact that there is a persistence that 
the Russians have towards this type of activity, and they have 
been in the Ukraine for a long time. So being able to identify 
the persistence, being able to identify the adversaries, being 
able to share that information, again, broadly with our 
partners, broadly with our allies and NATO, and then, most 
importantly, with the private sector again reinforces this idea 
of you cannot hide in terms of what you are doing.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I look forward to some more 
classified briefings with everyone.
    But I want to move on to you, General Clarke, because we 
know the world is watching. We know Iran is watching. We know 
this for sure, and so we have to combat Iranian aggression. In 
several previous hearings we know Iran and Iran-aligned militia 
groups, they are increasingly targeting the United States 
installations and servicemembers in Iraq, in Syria, via rocket 
and, of course, drone attacks. On a regular basis, Iran is, of 
course, we know the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. 
They threaten the United States and they threaten our allied 
interests in the Middle East and around the world, via both 
direct attacks and through its support for Hezbollah and the 
Islamic Republic's other terrorist proxies such as KH [Kataib 
Hezbollah] and AAH [Asaib Ah al-Haq].
    So can you discuss the threat Iranian-aligned militia 
groups in the Middle East are posing to our United States 
troops and allies, and do you believe the United States, how do 
you think we should respond as you are currently addressing 
this threat? Do you have the necessary authorities, besides the 
ability to act in self-defense?
    General Clarke. Senator, I have served a long amount of 
time in CENTCOM area, and specifically in Iraq, and I have 
watched the Shiite militia groups, as you accurately described, 
their capabilities, which are only growing, particularly, as 
General McKenzie identified to this Committee, in the missile 
and in their unmanned aerial systems, which threaten United 
States Forces.
    I would leave the policy side to what we do with the 
authorities to Mr. Maier, but at the same hand I would say that 
we continue with our special operations forces to provide 
options for those policymakers by seeing and understanding how 
they conduct these attacks and try to be in front of those 
attacks to provide those options.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Oh, I see my time is up. I yield 
back. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
being here today. General Clarke, thank you for your service.
    General Clarke, in January 2021, the DOD awarded Teledyne 
Brown Engineering a contract to continue production on the Mark 
11 Shallow Water Combat Submersible. These subs are used to 
deliver Navy SEALs and their equipment, special operations. 
When do you expect these Mark 11s to be delivered, all of them?
    General Clarke. I will take that one for the record, 
because we do have a timeline over years, Senator. But what I 
am committed to, and take it broader, is that this capability 
for a maritime, undersea collection is critical for our Nation, 
to be able to work in the littorals and team with the Navy, to 
be able to do those type of operations.
    Senator Tuberville. Do we need more of them?
    General Clarke. Senator, I think what we have requested has 
been sufficient, and if we believe we need more of that unique 
capability--because it is not just that delivery system but it 
is other SEAL deliver systems that we are putting forward, to 
give variances of the type of capabilities we will need. But if 
we need more I will come back to this Committee and to the 
Department.
    Senator Tuberville. Good. Thank you.
    Secretary Maier, to what do you attribute the cost and time 
overruns of Block 2 of the Dry Combat Submersible, an important 
asset for the Pacific?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I would also like to take that for the 
record. That is a complicated answer that I do not have all the 
details on. But we will get you written responses.
    Senator Tuberville. Take more than 5 minutes to explain 
that probably, would it not?
    Mr. Maier. Yes, it would, sir.
    Senator Tuberville. You know, in November, Acting Secretary 
of Defense Chris Miller enacted the fiscal year 2017 NDAA 
requirement to elevated SO/LIC positions to be on par with the 
other service secretaries, but last May, Senator Austin 
reversed this decision, burying SO/LIC back under the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Policy. SO/LIC is still understaffed 
and is not getting the routine direct access to the Secretary 
and Deputy Secretary as should, as directed by the NDAA.
    As a service Secretary, do you control acquisition and 
budget items in your purview?
    Mr. Maier. So, Senator, by law I do not for acquisition, 
but I approve the special operations budget. So the answer is 
yes to one and no to the other.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you. You know, I would like 
to say this, that Secretary Austin changed this back but this 
body, we believe in civilian oversight, and hopefully we can 
get back to that somehow.
    General Nakasone, in July 2021, General Hayden said that 
the joint warfighting concept had, quote, ``failed in many 
different ways,'' end quote, could not produce a victory 
against an aggressive red team, and needed a new emphasis on 
space and cyber.
    Where, specifically, regarding Indo-Pacific, did the joint 
warfighting concept, JWC, fall short with cyber?
    General Nakasone. Senator, this is one that I certainly 
will take for the record, just because I want to provide a 
classified response to that. There are some very unique things 
that we have addressed, but again, I think it is better to put 
that in a classified response.
    Senator Tuberville. All right. What resources to ensure 
cyber protections across the joint force have you asked for and 
not received? Is there anything that you have not received that 
you have asked for?
    General Nakasone. Senator, not right now. I think the 
broader question which the Department is working towards right 
now is how big a cyber force, and that is a study that is being 
undertaken right now. We will grow by 14 different teams over 
the FYDP [Future Years Defense Program], but I think that, in 
our estimation that that is probably a down payment on a 
broader force that is going to be necessary for the Nation.
    Senator Tuberville. How can we help you in this coming 
budget?
    General Nakasone. I think the biggest piece is just the 
continued support of our talent initiatives. We have talked 
about this. The importance of being able to grow a force begins 
well before they ever are recruited for any of the services or 
enter civilian service.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, and I would love for you to 
come to Alabama and check our new Cyber Technology and 
Engineering School, grades 9 through 12, top in the state, 
started 2 years ago. It is unbelievable and going to be 
unbelievably successful. It will open the doors of its new 
building this year, coming up in September, and we have over 
150 in it now, and it is an amazing place of education, and I 
think it is going to be very beneficial to what you are doing. 
I am talking about high school kids. I am not talking about 
college, and these kids will be ready to go to work as soon as 
they get out of high school. So hopefully one day you can visit 
in Huntsville.
    General Nakasone. Senator, I would enjoy that. I would 
also, Senator, to solicit your assistance for our Academic 
Engagement Network for U.S. Cyber Command. We have four 
institutions within the state of Alabama. But given your long 
experience as an educator I think your proponency within the 
state of Alabama could double that number.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before beginning my 
questions I want to associate myself with the questions of 
Senator Rounds about National Security Presidential Memorandum 
13. My understanding is that the Administration is considering 
changes. Substantial changes, I believe, would be a grave 
mistake, would undermine deterrence at the worst possible 
moment, and I have communicated that to the White House, along 
with Congressman Mike Gallagher, my co-chair of the Cyberspace 
Solarium Commission.
    General Nakasone, if you can answer this in an open 
session, why no Russian serious cyberattack in Ukraine? We all 
thought that was going to be the first thing they did, and it 
did not happen. I know there were some attacks but nothing of 
the scale that we were expecting. Do we have an answer to that?
    General Nakasone. So Senator, I think I would begin by 
saying we are not out of Ukraine yet, so obviously our position 
right now is one of vigilance, in terms of anything that might 
still be done.
    In terms of what the Russians decided to, I would 
anticipate that this was based upon a series of assumptions 
that they may have made, I think coupled with the defensive 
capabilities that we were able to work with a number of 
partners within Ukraine, and then thirdly, I think is just a 
realization that a lot of times these are very, very difficult 
attacks to be able to conduct.
    Senator King. I think their assumption was that the war 
would last a week so they did not really have to do that. That 
seems to be one of their gravest mistakes.
    I am concerned about attribution. If we are going to 
respond to cyberattacks we have to have timely attribution. Are 
the U.S. Government's attribution assets adequate? Do we 
coordinate adequately? Who is in charge of attribution if a 
cyberattack occurred tomorrow? Is it you? Is it NSA? Is it the 
FBI? Is it CISA? Where does that responsibility fall?
    General Nakasone. So certainly, Senator, there is a 
combination of all of those that lead to attribution, to 
include our partners as we work very closely with them. I think 
the other one that I would add is the private sector. You know, 
when you consider some of our private sector entities that have 
over 300 million endpoints in the United States, being able to 
understand what is going on there is critical for what we are 
able to see.
    But ultimately this is brought up to a policy-level 
decision based upon what we are able to provide from 
intelligence and our partnerships with industry and foreign 
nations.
    Senator King. It makes me nervous when I hear the first 
part of the answer being coordination. I like it when somebody 
is in charge and responsible, but I understand that the 
coordination is important.
    One of the--I do not know if I would call it a gap, but you 
mentioned, for example, outside of our borders, that is where 
NSA's responsibility is, CIA's [Central Intelligence Agency] 
responsibility is. We are no longer in a world of borders, and 
what concerns me is a cyberattack that originates in a foreign 
country but goes through a server in New Jersey or California, 
and therefore it is a gray question as to where that 
cyberattack is coming from. Do we have adequate authorities and 
lines of authority and definitions to deal with a foreign 
cyberattack that comes through U.S. infrastructure?
    General Nakasone. I think that we are making much better 
progress in being able to address some of those authority gaps. 
You have identified one of the areas that we certainly were 
relevant during the SolarWinds most recently supply chain 
attack, when our adversaries had positioned themselves within 
the United States and we found that there was a blind spot 
there.
    So again, the breach notification that has been done, the 
discussions in terms of upping the standards for both national 
security systems and government systems that the Administration 
has done I think have all contributed to this.
    But you point out a key piece, Senator, which is this is 
much more difficult than one person being in charge. There is 
not one agency, one department, or even one entity that has all 
the information, and is so why this coordination is so 
important.
    Senator King. We talked about recruiting talent, and I know 
that is an issue that has been discussed in other questions. 
One of my questions is, what about tenure? Is it an issue in 
CYBERCOM that you have soldiers and sailors and marines, people 
that come through, but they are only there for a limited period 
of time and then they move on, or do they move on within 
CYBERCOM? Do we have enough continuity, or is that an issue 
that we need to address?
    General Nakasone. That is an area that each of the services 
handles differently, and I think each of the services has to 
focus on this. Once we train an operator within our force we 
are very, very reluctant to have them go back and do anything 
else but cyber, and I would offer that most of the cyber 
operators that is all they want to do is cyber.
    Again, the investment in this and the repeat tours is 
critical for us to maintain our readiness.
    Senator King. So we do have repeat tours now. That is a 
standard part of the way you operate.
    General Nakasone. We certainly do, but I think there could 
be more.
    Senator King. General Clarke, I am running out of time. 
Just a short question. Are you providing the kind of training 
that you did to the Ukrainians to other allies, particularly in 
Eastern Europe, in special operations?
    General Clarke. Yes, sir, we are, and I can give you more 
detail or provide that for the record, and we have continued 
that through what is going on in the Ukraine today.
    Senator King. Well I think what is going on in Ukraine in 
terms of success has been attributable to lots of factors, but 
one of them is the training that you have provided. Thank you.
    General Clarke. I agree with that assessment. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to each of you for the update.
    General Clarke, I want to talk about the small unit 
dominance for just a moment and see where you are with that, to 
provide solutions for SOF small unit dominance. What progress 
have you made to bolster the collaboration with external 
government and non-governmental organizations concerning 
advancement of adversary asymmetric advantages? Then when you 
look at your resource shortfalls when it comes to information 
gathering, situational awareness, where are you with that? As 
you are very well aware, and as we have talked, Fort Campbell 
and the men and women that are stationed there--and this is 
something that is important to them.
    General Clarke. Senator, you bring out a great point about 
our forces. Many times they are working in small teams and they 
are disaggregated, but they bring with that disaggregation some 
power of being able to work with foreign partners, and 
providing them all the assets and tools, and as we look at 
this, at a point forward that very few could do. It is 
accepting to the host nation that they can work there because 
they have the culture, they have the language, and most times 
they are combat-credible forces who have been tested on the 
battlefields in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Syria, and providing 
them all the tools that they need.
    What we are focused on is specifically giving them the most 
tools that they can have forward, what we call the hyper-
enabled operator. That is one of my top five technology focus 
areas, to make sure that they have those tools, and a lot of 
that will be, as you referenced, making sure that we can put 
artificial intelligence and machine learning forward at the 
edge where they are.
    Senator Blackburn. In the 2022 NDAA, SOCOM, we had the 
operating concept, you need to articulate an operating concept 
that supports the joint warfighting concept. When you are 
looking at that joint landscape how do you seek to define that, 
and then how are you filling in those gaps as you bring in and 
avail technology?
    General Clarke. Senator, you are hitting a really key 
point, that working with ASD SO/LIC, who has given us guidance 
to actually look at our force structure and come up with that 
operating concept for 2040. I believe we have the force size 
that we need, but within that force size that we have we 
actually have to do some restructuring to ensure that we can 
properly compete with a nation state like China, and develop 
those unique capabilities that will be required for that future 
conflict.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay, and then in that vein, as you look 
at all of this, how are you going to bring into review 
different levels and degrees of specialization and competence, 
and how do you do that with your existing force?
    General Clarke. The way we do it now, and it works best, is 
through experimentation. We actually create exercises and 
venues so that we can actually test those, and we are doing 
that today. So as you look at our operations and maintenance 
budget for this year, about $9.7 billion, that is what directly 
contributes to that experimentation and building the future 
force that we will need.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Before I run out of time, General 
Nakasone, I always appreciate your insights. I want you to talk 
for just a minute about the value of the current cyber defense 
partnerships that you have and how that affects your multi-
domain partnerships, how that affects your multi-capable 
operations.
    General Nakasone. Senator, let me begin with the 
partnerships in a number of different phases. So first of all I 
would say our partnerships with the National Security Agency is 
critical to what we do. U.S. Cyber Command is powerful based 
upon our partnership with NSA.
    The second piece is the partnerships that we have with the 
private sector. As I mentioned, the change that taking place in 
cyberspace is mainly taking place within the private sector. So 
having those partnerships, like our under advisement program 
that this Committee sponsored is critical for what we are 
doing.
    The third piece is partnerships with our allies. Hunt 
forward teams, nine which were conducted in 2021, by the invite 
of foreign governments, coming into their networks and 
understanding is critical.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. I am over time but let me ask you. 
Having those partnerships, does that help you to retain some of 
the human capital and the troops that you need to retain?
    General Nakasone. Most definitely. I mean, people want to 
work with the private sector. They want to be able to deploy. 
They want to be able to work with academic institutions. There 
is an excitement that goes with that.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Manchin, please.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, 
thank all three of you for your service, and General Clarke, 
thank you and your family. I know how a commitment that is and 
what a commitment that is, but now you get to spend hopefully a 
little time with them.
    To General Clarke and to Secretary Maier, this is for you 
all. I noted the comments in your advance testimony about 
special operation forces, unique training authority, and the 
need to maintain readiness in the diverse global environments 
that we are in.
    I wanted to make sure you were both aware that in West 
Virginia we are working and making our state more available to 
SOCOM training operations--e are only 3 hours away now. We are 
not that far. You can hop, skip, and a jump--available for 
SOCOM operations. We have parts of the states that are in great 
condition for training opportunities, if it has not been 
brought to your attention, from subterranean complexes to 
austere rural environments. There is surface mine land--that is 
possible for transfer to DOD for nothing. Zero. One dollar to 
make it legal, probably--the East Coast-based units to train to 
significantly reduce cost compared to similar training that you 
are going to travel to the West Coast and do. It is right in 
your backyard.
    My office has been working with J3 representatives from 
SOCOM and our state as well as the West Virginia National Guard 
to highlight what we have to offer, and I hope to have you out 
soon to do a site visit. If you could I would appreciate it 
very much.
    So if your SOCOM staff has not briefed you on this program 
would you work with me and maybe come and visit and see what we 
have to offer?
    General Clarke. Senator, the SOCOM staff has briefed me. 
Having been appointed to West Point from Martinsburg, West 
Virginia, by Senator Byrd 42 years ago----
    Senator Manchin. Oh, you have got to come. You have got no 
option.
    General Clarke.--I am very familiar with West Virginia and 
this initiative and your hosting of 2nd Battalion 19th Special 
Forces Group and our continuous assessment that we run in your 
state.
    Senator Manchin. We are a state that is totally committed 
to the defense of this country, and think it proves that by the 
amount of veterans that we have who have fought in every war in 
conflict, and have even shed a lot of blood. So we are ready to 
go, and we would love to have you all there because you would 
be most welcome in whatever we have to offer.
    I have always said this too, about West Virginians 
fighting. I say when there is not really a good fight going on 
around the world, we fight each other just to stay in practice, 
because we are ready. Just like Alabama.
    So General Nakasone, this is for you. As Chairman of the 
Cyber Subcommittee I am particularly concerned that it is only 
a matter of time before cyber criminals and bad actors launch 
attacks on our commercial space assets, particularly our global 
positioning system. Cyber and space realms are intertwined and 
it is imperative for CYBERCOM and SPACECOM to work in lockstep, 
because every system SPACECOM uses has a cyber component that 
has to be secure and reliable.
    So how are you all working together, and if there are 
things you can talk about. If not, we will do it in a secured 
setting.
    General Nakasone. So again it begins with the ability for 
us to work closely with U.S. Space Command. We put a cyber 
integrated planning element into Space Command headquarters 
last summer. This is our ability now to work hand-in-hand with 
General Dickinson and his staff to be able to plan those types 
of operations.
    Senator Manchin. How about nitro?
    General Nakasone. Pardon me?
    Senator Manchin. Nitro.
    General Nakasone. If I might come back to you on that, 
Senator.
    Senator Manchin. That is what I thought. Okay. We will do 
that.
    Also, General Nakasone, a few weeks ago we heard from 
STRATCOM and SPACECOM on their readiness posture. Maintaining 
our nuclear deterrent and preserving our ability to operate in 
space are fundamental to today's great power competition with 
Russia and China. I believe that both of these missions are 
connected to our cyber defensive and offensive capabilities. 
The cyberspace and nuclear missions have to be interconnected 
and cannot operate in a vacuum.
    My question would be, given that CYBERCOM is operating in a 
highly complex and ever-evolving environment, how integrated 
would you say that the efforts are between STRATCOM and 
SPACECOM right now?
    General Nakasone. Totally integrated, and it begins with 
the assurance of our nuclear command and control and 
communications capabilities.
    Senator Manchin. I know that Senator King asked the 
question about what is going on and why has Russia not--are you 
seeing indications that we should have some concern there, that 
there might be movement in that area of cyberattacks?
    General Nakasone. So again, Senator, I think that the 
President, as he announced last week with his indications of 
concern, we have concerns all the time. We remain vigilant, and 
we will continue to remain vigilant.
    Senator Manchin. Do you believe that we are adequately 
capable of stopping these horrible cyberattacks that could harm 
just the well-being of the average United States citizen?
    General Nakasone. We are, along with our partners at CISA, 
and the private sector.
    Senator Manchin. So everybody is on track. Thank you very 
much. No further questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Manchin.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Welcome, gentlemen. General Nakasone, let 
us talk a little bit about intelligence sharing with Ukraine. 
We have heard a lot about that over the last few weeks. You 
mentioned it a little bit today in your testimony. Can you tell 
us exactly, like how does that happen for you and your people, 
at NSA and CYBERCOM? Do you have partners in Ukraine that you 
are going direct to with intelligence we share? Is it going up 
in the United States Government and then going to them somehow? 
Just give us a little more visibility.
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might, I think this is a 
great conversation for this afternoon, in closed testimony, 
just because I can lay out the numbers and the procedures upon 
which we do this.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. We will have that conversation in a 
closed session.
    I would like to know what kind of limitations that you face 
on what you are able to share, if any. Has the Administration 
put limitations on your ability to share actionable 
intelligence with Ukrainians?
    General Nakasone. So, Senator, again there is policy 
guidance that we follow at the National Security Agency with 
regards to the sharing of that intelligence.
    Senator Cotton. Are you allowed to share intelligence that 
would allow or facilitate strikes into the Donbas region?
    General Nakasone. Again, Senator, I think this is obviously 
better handled in closed testimony.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. We will talk about it in closed 
testimony. I certainly hope that you and the rest of our 
Government is allowed to share such intelligence, since Russia 
has announced that that is the main effort in Ukraine now and 
that the White House is not nervous as a cat in a room full of 
rocking chairs about allowing Ukraine to retake some of its 
territory in the Donbas.
    General Clarke, you have planned a mission or two in your 
life. Do you think it would complicate Russia's operations in 
the Donbas if they had to worry not just about Ukraine's 
defense operations there but also had to worry about potential 
offensive operations across the line of contact in the Joint 
Forces area?
    General Clarke. Senator, I believe that any time that any 
nation has increased capabilities and knowledge of their 
opponent it is helpful.
    Senator Cotton. I bet it would complicate the hell out of 
their planning, if you asked me. But anyway, we will talk about 
it at closed setting.
    General Clarke, I want to talk to you briefly about a 
couple of matters. The first is Afghanistan and the so-called 
over-the-horizon counterterrorism strikes we heard so much 
about last summer, in the lead-up to and during the collapse in 
Kabul. Since the last American soldier left Afghanistan, how 
many over-the-horizon strikes have we conducted in Afghanistan?
    General Clarke. Senator, I am not aware of any over-the-
horizon strikes that have been conducted since we departed 
Afghanistan.
    Senator Cotton. Yes. Unfortunately, neither am I. I think 
it might have been better called over-the-rainbow 
counterterrorism strikes at the time by the White House.
    Another thing, General Clarke, I want to address with you 
is the authorities you have. Last year, when the Biden 
administration took office, one of the very first actions was 
to remove approval delegations for actions outside of Iraq and 
Syria, so places like, say, Yemen. We talked about it in this 
hearing last year, and you probably remember me referencing a 
story from the previous President about his first encounter 
with this question, when he was asked to approve a strike, and 
he did not understand why some captain or major or colonel who 
was on the ground was not approving it.
    Has the Biden administration's policies affected your 
ability to get after terrorist targets in places like Yemen or 
Somalia or elsewhere?
    General Clarke. Senator, I defer those specific questions 
to the geographic combatant commander. We continue to give that 
capability to those combatant commanders to conduct those 
strikes with our SOF personnel. I defer policy over to 
Secretary Maier, if there is anything that he would want to add 
on top of that.
    Senator Cotton. Secretary Maier, is there anything you 
would like to add on top of that?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I think there has been no change in the 
policy from where we talked a year ago.
    Senator Cotton. So at what level in the United States 
Government does a strike against a bad guy in Yemen or Somalia 
have to be approved? Do you have to wake the President up in 
the middle of the night and ask him?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, is that question for me?
    Senator Cotton. Sure.
    Mr. Maier. I think it varies based on the geographic area, 
but there are very few that rise to the level of the White 
House. Most of those are within the DOD hierarchy, sir.
    Senator Cotton. At what level in the DOD hierarchy? Would 
that go to the combatant commander?
    Mr. Maier. Oftentimes the combatant commander, sir, but I 
think it varies depending on how low they are delegated. In 
some cases it is well below the combatant commander.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. General Clarke, I have a lot of 
confidence in you and your combatant commanders, but you know 
who else I have a lot of confidence in? People who are doing 
jobs that Major and Colonel Clarke used to do back in the day. 
Thank you. See you in the closed setting.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
being here. Thank you all for your extraordinarily 
distinguished and dedicated service to our country.
    General Nakasone, in your responses to Senator Cotton you 
did not mean to say that we are not sharing intelligence with 
Ukraine, did you?
    General Nakasone. I did not. I said that I believe, 
Senator, I wanted to make sure that we talked about the details 
in a closed setting.
    Senator Blumenthal. But the idea that we are denying 
intelligence or refusing to share intelligence is incorrect.
    General Nakasone. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    General Clarke, I wonder if you could provide some 
background as to why use of undersea vehicles for inserting our 
special operators is important, whether it is through the Dry 
Combat Submersible or through the existing undersea warfare 
platforms that we have.
    General Clarke. Senator, our naval special operators can 
get into places that a larger maritime ship or an undersea 
vessel, one of the Navy submarines, cannot get into, and it 
provides us the opportunity--which I can cover specifics in a 
closed session--to get in places that we need to conduct 
reconnaissance in, and to be able to give the Joint Force 
insights for potential future conflict and for competition.
    Senator Blumenthal. So the smaller vehicles can enter 
places that submarines could not, which makes them potentially 
very valuable, and I think in response to Senator Tuberville 
you talked a little bit about the timeline. What is the fastest 
that we could see those Dry Combat Submersibles available?
    General Clarke. Senator, we are testing one now. I went on 
it personally within the last 12 months, and found that it is 
almost ready at this point. We are still going through some 
specific testing of it, and I can get back to you on the record 
with what that specific timeline is. But we are talking months, 
probably not years. We are operationally validating it now, to 
make sure it would be completely safe in an operational 
environment.
    Senator Blumenthal. Are you satisfied that the budget, the 
2023 budget, includes sufficient funding to make it operational 
during the coming year, if it is a matter of months before it 
would be?
    General Clarke. Senator, I do, for this year's budget, but 
there are additional capabilities that we will continue to 
advocate for to build the modernization not just of the Dry 
Combat Submersible but other undersea, clandestine type vessels 
that will also assist us in the maritime and the littoral 
domain.
    Senator Blumenthal. I would appreciate hearing more, 
whether it is in a closed setting or on the record in writing 
more about this program.
    General Clarke. Yes, sir. I will take that for the record, 
Senator.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. One other area. When I 
visited Ukraine just very shortly before the invasion, in 
January, and I think it is certain now it is a matter of public 
record that we had trainers there for the Ukrainian forces. How 
would you assess the effectiveness of the training that we gave 
to Ukrainians through our special operations as well as other 
personnel, and would such training now be useful for more of 
them outside of Ukraine? Obviously, we are not going to put any 
of our personnel into Ukraine, but if there were training 
outside the country for some of their special operators.
    General Clarke. I assess that training as very effective, 
and what we did for 8 years prior for both lethal capabilities 
but also in the information operations. I do believe that at 
Ukrainians' desire, based upon what they will need in the 
future, for what could become a protracted engagement with 
Russia, we should look at and assess what future capabilities 
they will need, because they will need to have a sustained 
effort, and I think we could provide those if the policy is 
decided. But I think that would benefit the Ukrainians in the 
future.
    Senator Blumenthal. Absolutely. Thanks so much, General. 
Thank you all.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you for your service here. General Clarke, both you and 
General Nakasone, I think you are two of our best four-star 
commanders focused on lethality, warfighting, crushing our 
enemies when called upon, and I just really want to thank you 
for that, and General Clarke, for your service, if you are 
going to be retiring soon. I hope you are not retiring soon but 
I understand it is maybe close to 40 years now, so good luck 
with everything. But you have done an exceptional job. Both of 
you have.
    I just want to emphasize what Senator Cotton mentioned, 
General Nakasone, on the intel-sharing piece. I know you cannot 
say a lot here, but I think it is strong bipartisan support to 
the extent we can share as much intel, of course, without 
compromising sources and methods, with Ukrainian forces, 
including in Eastern Ukraine. I think it is really important, 
and I think I am speaking for a lot of Senators on this 
Committee.
    General Clarke, I have kind of a multi-part question. Could 
you elaborate a little bit on SOCOM's role in building out 
Ukrainian Special Forces over the last several years, and then 
what lessons are we applying with regard to what we have 
learned there to Taiwan Special Forces?
    one of the things that you mentioned in the what-we-do 
section of your vision for SOCOM is helping shape the 
environment to reduce risk, prevent crises, and set conditions 
for success in competition and conflict, and I would like to 
get a little sense, to the extent you can talk about it here, 
on what we are doing to help Taiwan the way we have helped 
Ukraine, particularly in the SOF world.
    General Clarke. Senator, when we first started training 
with the Ukrainian special operations over 8 years ago they 
were a smaller force and they did not necessarily have a SOCOM-
like headquarters. That force grew to three brigade 
equivalents, commanded by colonels, and a training regiment. 
They also, over the last 18 months, added a resistance company 
made up of what we--like a home guard, that was embedded in 
each one of those. That was through the persistent effort of 
not just the U.S., but we also brought in allies from other 
NATO countries.
    Senator Sullivan. You are seeing, obviously, some of the 
success of that training and structure in the current conflict.
    General Clarke. Yes, Senator, we are.
    Senator Sullivan. What about Taiwan, to the extent you can 
talk about that?
    General Clarke. Senator, I would prefer to talk about 
Taiwan in a closed setting. But broadly, building both 
resistance and resilience in the force--resistance being the 
ability to give the punch, but resilience being the ability to 
take the punch and make sure you can get back up, through 
medical training, through logistics, and through 
communications--is critical. I think we have got to work on 
both of those with other nations, writ large.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask a question for both of you, 
kind of, again a two-part question. General Clarke, Rear 
Admiral Howard recently wrote a piece in USNI News and talked 
about making sure our special operations forces were combat 
ready for new tactics, techniques, particularly in some of the 
most stressing environment and hard-target conditions. He 
talked about SOCOM competition in the High North.
    Are there initiatives that you are undertaking? General 
Nakasone, can you talk a little bit about what NSA Alaska has 
been doing, the capabilities that they bring? Even a lot of 
Alaskans are not aware of the great work that goes on, 
particularly as it relates to Russia and other places that goes 
on in the High North of America and Alaska, with the buildout 
and exceptional work that NSA Alaska is doing.
    General Clarke, can you take that question first, and then 
General Nakasone.
    General Clarke. Yes, sir. I just left Norway less than 10 
days ago, where I observed our special operations forces 
working 200 miles north of the Arctic Circle, using all of 
their capabilities--insertion clandestinely, looking at hard 
targets, working with partners. Simultaneously, as you know, 
there was another exercise going on in Alaska, where we also 
had a large contingent of all elements of our special 
operations command that were practicing experimenting. This 
alone highlights the importance of training inside the Arctic 
for those hard targets in the future.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. General Nakasone?
    General Nakasone. Senator, geography matters, and as we 
take a look at our ability to provide both indications and 
warning and awareness of the Pacific, a critical element of 
this is what the men and women at NSA Alaska are doing today. 
That location, in your home state, has provided us insights 
into our adversaries' actions and provided protection to our 
forces that are deployed in that region.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to all 
of you for being here. Thank you for your service.
    I want to come back to this question of Taiwan that Senator 
Sullivan was just asking about, and let me frame it this way. 
Secretary Maier, let me start with you.
    I think the Ukrainians are showing how effective and 
important irregular warfare can be for defeating an enemy 
invasion. Obviously that has got a lot of potential relevance 
to the situation that we see in Taiwan. Our goal in Taiwan, I 
think hopefully we all agree, should be to prevent an invasion. 
We do not want to be behind the eight ball where we are trying 
to displace one. But we have got to plan for all scenarios, so 
irregular warfare has an important role to play.
    You testified last year, and I am going to quote you here, 
that the United States should ``strongly''--that is your word--
``strongly consider options to strengthen Taiwan's irregular 
warfare capabilities, including their ability to fight in 
depth''--that is you again--``using resistance networks or 
other capabilities after a Chinese amphibious landing.'' Is 
that still your view?
    Mr. Maier. It is, Senator, and I think we are doing more 
work in that regard, as others have testified.
    Senator Hawley. Perfect. Can I just ask you to expand on 
that? Can you give us an update on what you are doing, what the 
Pentagon is doing to help strengthen Taiwan's irregular warfare 
capabilities?
    Mr. Maier. So, Senator, I think General Clarke already hit 
on some of that. Obviously we can only go so much in this 
session. But I think consistent with the Taiwan Relations Act, 
we are doing all we can to look at a whole-of-resistance 
approach. So in some cases that means doing more exercises, 
more ability to touch aspects of the Taiwanese infrastructure 
and determine its both, as General Clarke said, ability to take 
a punch and give a punch. That is sort of the most basic level 
of our assessment at this point.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. General, you testified also last 
year, and you just reiterated it to Senator Sullivan, but you 
testified that you thought the United States should help Taiwan 
strengthen its irregular warfare capabilities. I am assuming, 
based on your answer just a second ago, you think that is still 
a priority. Is that fair to say?
    General Clarke. All in accordance with our policies. But, 
Senator, if I could take it a bit broader.
    Senator Hawley. Yes.
    General Clarke. It is not just about Taiwan either. It is 
also more than 15 countries that we are working with in the 
Indo-Pacific that are like-minded, have the same values, and 
have the same interests. Bolstering their defenses and ensuring 
they are seeing the same pernicious behavior that we have seen 
on behalf of the Chinese is critical, because we would rather 
be looking at 15 nations aligned or 20 nations aligned than 
just one or two.
    Senator Hawley. Sure. Absolutely. I agree with that 100 
percent. As you may or may not know, I have introduced a bill 
called the Arm Taiwan Act, which would create the Taiwan 
Security Assistance Initiative modeled on the Ukraine Security 
Assistance Initiative, that would help accelerate the ideas, 
help accelerate Taiwan's deployment of critical asymmetrical 
defenses. I think it is critical we learn the right lessons 
from what we are seeing in Ukraine. Obviously deterrence failed 
in Ukraine. We do not want to see deterrence fail in Taiwan--we 
just simply cannot afford that--and making sure that they are 
in a position, the Taiwanese are in a position to wage 
irregular warfare if necessary, and China knows they can do 
that I think is critical.
    General, let me ask you a related question. What role do 
you see SOCOM playing in helping to deter or, if necessary, 
defeat a Chinese invasion of Taiwan?
    General Clarke. Senator, I described our role in that as 
the war around the edges, and being able to hold hard targets 
at risk to ensure that we provide the national command 
authority those options. That is set up by conducting 
reconnaissance and ensuring, as I addressed to other members, 
building the undersea capabilities that we need today, ensuring 
that we are postured in places around the globe that can pull 
that. That is combining elements like cyber, space, and special 
operations forces together to provide unique capabilities for 
our Nation.
    Senator Hawley. Let me ask you if you have been able to use 
any resources freed up from our withdrawal from Afghanistan to 
invest in more capabilities relevant to the Taiwan scenario.
    General Clarke. Senator, we have put additional forces into 
both the Indo-Pacific theater and into the European theater 
over the last 3 years. I would say we started the rebalancing 
of some of the soft requirements based upon the 2018 National 
Defense Strategy that identified the threats from near-peer 
competitors.
    Senator Hawley. But I guess my question is, has the 
withdrawal from Afghanistan, has that freed up resources that 
you have been able to repurpose to this theater for this pacing 
scenario?
    General Clarke. I cannot draw a direct correlation from one 
to another, but fundamentally we do not have as many people in 
Afghanistan today. We have no people in Afghanistan today.
    Senator Hawley. Got it. I have got some additional 
questions that I will give to you each for the record. Thank 
you for your service. Thank you for being here.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chair Reed.
    General Clarke, what does the future operating environment 
look like for special forces, special operation forces over the 
next 5, 10, and 20 years, and do you expect to need more 
personnel and resources given the threats from Communist China, 
Russia, and emboldened Iran?
    General Clarke. Senator, I think we have the sufficient 
amount of forces that we need today that exist within the 
force. We have just now, this year, gotten to the first time to 
where we actually have a predictable schedule that all of our 
forces are on a 2-to-1 deployment to dwell, or greater, and so 
the force that we have is right.
    In some cases, though, we actually need to make some 
changes within the force that we have, to be able to put 
towards the capabilities that we will need. For example, 
potentially more information operators that we will need in the 
future. So we may have less in one area but actually look at 
where we need to put more in the future. What we do need is a 
continuous, sustained budget that will allow for increased 
modernization and readiness so that we can build those 
capabilities in time for the Department.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General, as we know, President 
Biden's budget is in step with the raging inflation we are 
seeing right now. Are there any assets or any spending you 
would like to do that you will be unable to do because of the 
budget basically being cut when you look the inflation?
    General Clarke. Senator, we have submitted an unfunded 
requirement list that hits specifically to the points, and top 
line that asks for additional funding in the information 
operations, in artificial intelligence and machine learning, 
and it hits on the speeding up of some of our modernization of 
our clandestine insertion maritime, but also looks a developing 
counter-UAS, unmanned aerial systems, to be able to protect our 
forces that are forward, and that will speed those processes up 
in the future.
    Senator Scott. We watched Vladimir Putin's aggression 
against Ukraine, and I think we are all disappointed that 
President Biden did not do enough to deter it. But what can 
special operations continue to do to assist Ukraine and support 
our other partners that hopefully will help Ukraine win against 
Russia and also make sure that Putin does not feel emboldened 
to invade a NATO country?
    General Clarke. Senator, I would highlight a few. Number 
one is continue to ensure the lethal aid makes it into the 
Ukraine and for special operators to make sure that it gets to 
the Ukrainian special operations forces. I think they are doing 
a fantastic job today inside the Ukraine.
    But we also have to be predictive and work with the 
Ukrainians on not what they need today but as this potentially 
goes into protracted conflict what will they need in the 
future? It may not be as much on the lethal side but it may be 
other capabilities, whether it is mobility or whether it is 
first aid or whether it is protection. I think we have to be 
predictive to that.
    The other one that was already hit is the continued info 
and intel sharing about what is going on, and we can talk about 
that separately.
    Senator Scott. Are there any lessons learned from how 
United States special operations forces have been able to help 
Ukraine that we can apply to potentially what is going to 
happen when China invades Taiwan or, you know, Iran continuing 
to threaten Israel?
    General Clarke. Yes, sir. Number one is it is not just the 
United States and Ukraine. While we are sitting here we have 16 
NATO nations all on their own accord that are currently working 
with our Special Operations Command Europe, and they are 
collaborating, they are sharing, and they are sensing what is 
happening in that environment that we will then collectively be 
able to provide the best support to Ukraine. I think the same 
lessons could be applied in other theaters.
    The second one is, though, getting ahead of it. The more 
than you can set up for success today, the better off you will 
be. Having the urgency to see that in advance and not waiting 
until the end.
    Senator Scott. Thanks. General Nakasone, what has CYBERCOM 
been able to do to increase its efforts to protect our public 
and private infrastructure from bad actors from Russia?
    General Nakasone. Senator, several things. First of all, 
deploying a team to the Ukraine to see what our adversaries are 
doing and being able to capture their malware and their 
tradecraft and share that broadly with the private sector.
    Secondly, it is working with the lead for this, which is 
DHS CISA, and providing the capacity, if necessary, and also 
the collaboration that is ongoing.
    The last piece is working broadly with the private sector, 
particularly our defense industrial base, to ensure that they 
have an understanding of the tactics and techniques our 
adversaries are using.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Reed.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Scott, and 
gentlemen, thank you too. I will adjourn the open session. We 
will reconvene in SVC-217 in approximately 10 minutes, to begin 
the closed session. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
    [Whereupon, at 11:41 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]
    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

           Questions Submitted by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
                             cyber academy
    1. Senator Gillibrand. General Nakasone, do you have any views on 
the development of the National Cyber and Digital Services Academy?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                                 china
    2. Senator Gillibrand. General Nakasone, the joint efforts in New 
York City with assets from the National Guard, NSA, NYPD, and FBI are 
collaborating with over 50 critical infrastructure entities and the 
efforts are working extremely well. What are your thoughts on that type 
of collaboration, and making sure it can become more robust and more 
formalized?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                               __________
             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                            experimentation
    3. Senator Hirono. General Nakasone what opportunities has CYBERCOM 
had for experimentation in techniques and procedures in order to 
maintain our cyber professionals' competitive edge?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    4. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, you mentioned that SOCOM has 
conducted experimentation between its components and their respective 
services. Can you describe what is involved in these experimentations?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    5. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, what have been the most 
beneficial results of these efforts?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                      special operations training
    6. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, SOCOM's efforts to train 
Ukrainian special operations forces since the annexation of Crimea has 
no doubt given their military a great deal of expertise, and has helped 
Ukraine be able to defend itself against invasion. Where else can 
global security best stand to benefit by the partnerships U.S. Special 
Operations Forces has with foreign militaries?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
           recruitment of women and minorities into sof units
    7. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, what progress have you made in 
the last year in recruiting more women and minorities into Special 
Operations Forces?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    8. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, how have you been able to 
encourage more women and minorities to join SOF?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    9. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, how many women are part of 
Special Operations Forces teams currently?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    10. Senator Hirono. General Clarke, what measures are you using to 
assess SOCOM's progress in this initiative?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Angus S. King
                        ukraine lessons learned
    11. Senator King. General Nakasone, what are some of the 
preliminary lessons learned from USCYBERCOM's efforts supporting 
network fortification prior to Russia's invasion?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    12. Senator King. General Clarke, what is USSCOCOM's strategy in 
Ukraine and Eastern Europe after the conclusion of conflicts in 
Ukraine.
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                                 unclos
    13. Senator King. General Nakasone and General Clarke, do you 
support the ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Law of 
the Sea (UNCLOS)?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    14. Senator King. China Commission--I believe we must establish an 
unbiased and non-partisan commission to examine a grand strategy for 
our approach to China, similar in intent to President Eisenhower's 
Solarium Project. We need to think of a holistic approach to create a 
stable international order in which China (or Russia) cannot dictate 
regional developments.
    General Nakasone, General Clarke, and Secretary Maier, what are the 
`toughest problems' OUTSIDE of military imbalances?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
    Secretary Maier. China's ability to mobilize State resources and 
leverage all levers of national power is a significant challenge to a 
stable international order. Within the Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict 
(ASD(SO/LIC)), we work across U.S. Government (USG) departments and 
agencies and with international partners to leverage collective 
expertise and contribute to a USG holistic approach. Three issues stand 
out as key challenges.
    First, China's exploitation and manipulation of populations through 
information operations are pervasive. As we saw with COVID-19, China's 
efforts include shaping the information environment through 
disinformation and proactively shaping the narrative about China and 
its activities. Coordination amongst our allies and partners and a 
proactive approach to address Chinese disinformation will be an ongoing 
focus in the near term.
    Second, China uses paramilitary and civilian elements in operations 
short of armed conflict in furtherance of political objectives. The 
People's Liberation Army ships and aircraft are augmented by large 
numbers of China Coast Guard ships, fishing boats, and other 
paramilitary forces that serve as force multipliers in territorial 
disputes. These ships often engage in intimidating activities, 
including illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, to inhibit 
other nations' access to offshore resources, diminish economic 
development, and raise regional tensions.
    Finally, we need to focus on Chinese efforts in pursuit of foreign 
technology, including through illicit means. Tactics of coercion take 
many forms, including obtaining foreign technology through foreign 
direct investment, overseas acquisitions, legal technology imports, the 
establishment of foreign research and development centers, joint 
ventures, research and academic partnerships, talent recruitment, and 
both industrial and cyber espionage and theft. China also has a 
domestic policy of military civil fusion using domestic industry to 
bolster military technology development.

    15. Senator King. General Nakasone, General Clarke, and Secretary 
Maier, in order to avoid the US trying to ``spend our way out of 
conflict,'' how can we specifically counter China's major activities in 
your area of responsibility?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
    Secretary Maier. The keys to a sustainable U.S. response are 
building partner capacity and resilience and encouraging allies and 
partners to work together to counter China's malign activities. Allies 
and partners are on the frontlines of China's irregular warfare 
activities, including information operations, paramilitary, and 
civilian operations. Our allies and partners are often in a position to 
respond first and shape the environment in which China is operating.

    16. Senator King. General Nakasone, General Clarke, and Secretary 
Maier, what would be the greatest benefit this commission could 
deliver?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
    Secretary Maier. I rely on the considered expertise of outside 
groups across the spectrum of activities in my area of responsibility 
as ASD(SO/LIC). Thoughtful recommendations for how to incorporate 
Special Operations Forces (SOF) capabilities as part of a broader, 
whole-of-government strategy, is always useful.

    17. Senator King. General Nakasone, General Clarke, and Secretary 
Maier, what would put us in the best position to avoid the U.S. and 
China from escalating conflict and careening into a war with China?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
    Secretary Maier.  Open and routine senior leader engagement with 
People's Republic of China counterparts to ensure better understanding 
of actions taken, and their intent, will help reduce misperceptions and 
reduce the likelihood of escalation.

    18. Senator King. Expeditionary Tactical Operations Center--the 
shift to a more scalable, lethal, and mobile combat elements such as 
the Marine Littoral Regiment and Multidomain Task Force is critical to 
the countering the dynamic threats in your Area of Responsibility. The 
DOD's recent investments in the University of Maine's composites and 
advanced manufacturing initiatives has resulted in improving blast and 
ballistic resistant structures and materials. Maine small businesses 
are the direct benefactor of the growing talent and innovation in this 
sector and are concurrently providing critical capabilities to the 
warfighter. The Modular Panelized Shelter System (MPSS) is one system 
of note and is currently employed by NORTHCOM in Alaska, EUCOM in 
Italy, and AFRICOM headquarters.
    General Nakasone and General Clarke, could your command and service 
component commands further benefit from an expeditionary, affordable, 
all weather, TS/SCI certified structures such as the MPSS?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
    19. Senator King. Arctic--I supported Senator Sullivan's Arctic 
Security Initiative amendment last year, and helped get it into law 
with the Chairman.
    General Nakasone and General Clarke, what specific resource 
shortfalls does your command possess that would limit your ability to 
conduct exercises/operations in the High North? Please be specific to 
include operations and sustainment funding for exercises, equipment 
shortfalls such as weather gear for soldiers or unique platforms.
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                offensive cyber capabilities in ukraine
    20. Senator King. General Nakasone, the Russian invasion of Ukraine 
has demonstrated that cyber operations are no longer simply a gray zone 
tactic. Open-source reporting now suggests that the Russians launched 
at least two major cyber-attacks in the lead-up to their invasion, both 
of which affected Ukraine's military and government agencies. How has 
the Russians' use of offensive cyber capabilities in Ukraine influenced 
or changed our thinking on this type of warfare?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
      cybersecurity risks for commercial off-the-shelf technology
    21. Senator King. General Nakasone, I understand that in 2019, the 
DOD Inspector General released a report that provided an audit of the 
Department's management of the cybersecurity risks for government 
purchased Commercial Off-the-Shelf (or COTS) items. The report 
specifically found that if the DOD continues to purchase and use 
commercial IT items without identifying, assessing, and mitigating the 
known vulnerabilities associated with these items, ``missions critical 
to national security could be compromised.'' Is the Department today 
procuring computers from any companies that are either owned or 
partially owned by the People's Republic of China?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    22. Senator King. General Nakasone, is it possible to purchase 
systems that avoid PRC-compromised supply chains?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    23. Senator King. General Nakasone, if not, and understanding that 
our networks are only as secure as the devices that are connected to 
them, what steps have been taken to protect our cyber infrastructure 
and what other actions are being considered?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                                 taiwan
    24. Senator Sullivan. General Clarke, in the Special Operations 
Forces Vision Statement under the ``What We Do'' section, you State, 
``[s]hape the environment to reduce risk, prevent crises, and set 
conditions for success in competition and conflict.'' How are we 
setting conditions in Taiwan and the first-island chain to accomplish 
those tasks you outlined?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                               nsa alaska
    25. Senator Sullivan. General Nakasone, as you know, my great State 
is home to the Alaska Mission Operations Center (AMOC), a US National 
Security Agency facility located on Elmendorf Air Force Base in 
Anchorage. It is considered one of two ``consolidated intelligence 
centers'' in the country and provides combat intelligence to 
battlefield commanders, commands, and DOD leadership. Could you speak 
to the capabilities and contributions of this facility to the strategic 
imperatives of our national defense?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                     joint force cyber integration
    26. Senator Sullivan. General Nakasone, as you know, Alaska is home 
to the DOD's premier training venue, the Joint Pacific Alaska Range 
Complex or JPARC, that integrates all domains--land, air, sea, space, 
and cyberspace. The Secretary of the Air Force has directed JPARC 
modernization to provide Threat Matrix Framework Level 4 training 
capability. This requires the JPARC to migrate its networks and 
infrastructure to the TS-SCI/SAP level. Currently, no such suitable 
facility exists to support this function, but the Air Force is working 
to create a Joint Range Operations Center to provide this capability 
and ensure adequate integration of space, cyber, and command and 
control into training there. Do you believe adequate cyberspace 
integration is of primary importance to Joint Force lethality?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    27. Senator Sullivan. General Nakasone, would you support the 
creation and funding of the Joint Range Operations Center at JPARC to 
ensure space and cyber are properly integrated into the Joint force 
training there?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                        authoritarian aggression
    28. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Maier and General Clarke, from Xi 
Jinping's predatory economic initiatives, repeated neighbor-nation 
coercion, and brutal repression of individual freedoms; to now Vladimir 
Putin's heinous invasion of Ukraine, there is little doubt that we are 
now in a new era of authoritarian aggression. This aggression spans the 
entire spectrum of conflict, from open military warfare to gray zone 
activities below the threshold of armed conflict. What does SOCOM's 
piece of integrated deterrence look like?
    Secretary Maier. USSOCOM's contributions to integrated deterrence 
are twofold. First, SOF capabilities support U.S. efforts to deny 
adversaries' ability to overcome conventional and nuclear deterrence at 
the lower end of the conflict spectrum. The SOF global footprint, 
persistent engagement, low profile, and unique skills and authorities 
enable SOF to counter adversaries' gray zone activities, both directly 
and indirectly through allies and partners.
    Second, SOF capabilities strengthen deterrence by shaping the 
environment and enabling the Joint Force to prevail against adversaries 
in conflict. SOF core activities support access and placement, gather 
information, and establish relationships and infrastructure to set 
conditions necessary for achieving military success.
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    29. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Maier and General Clarke, what must 
SOCOM do to make dictators like Xi Jingping and Vladimir Putin think 
twice about their geopolitical ambitions?
    Secretary Maier. SO/LIC and USSOCOM must develop, provide, and 
employ forces in ways that reinforce overall Joint Force combat 
credibility, while diminishing that of adversaries. Adversary decisions 
to act aggressively rely on perceptions regarding overall risk, as well 
as the probability and cost of success. SOF employment must increase 
adversary perception that the probability of success is low and that 
the cost of aggression will be high. SOF must continue to strengthen 
relationships and build allied and partner capabilities, increase 
resilience, and enhance resistance to coercion.
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                        fiscal year 2023 budget
    30. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Maier and General Clarke, amid the 
extensive loss of purchasing power from an extended continuing 
resolution this past fiscal year, as well as the currently 
unprecedented inflationary pressures, are current and projected SOCOM 
funding levels adequate to keep pace against our authoritarian 
adversaries?
    Secretary Maier. Yes, the current and projected USSOCOM funding 
levels are adequate to meet USSOCOM's current requirements.
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
  assistant secretary of defense for special operations/low-intensity 
                         conflict (asd so/lic)
    31. Senator Blackburn. Mr. Maier, how often do you meet with the 
Secretary or Deputy Secretary concerning SOCOM civilian oversight 
responsibilities?
    Mr. Maier. I meet with the Secretary of Defense, the Deputy 
Secretary of Defense, and the other Secretaries of the Military 
Departments every other week in our regular Service Secretary meeting, 
chaired by the Secretary of Defense. Separately, I meet regularly with 
the Deputy Secretary on SOF administrative responsibilities. As part of 
the Department's implementation of my office's civilian oversight 
responsibilities, I or a member of my leadership team participate in a 
number of Secretary and Deputy Secretary-led senior leader fora to 
include: Senior Leaders Council, Secretary's Large Group, Program 
Budget Review Small Group, Defense Management Action Group, Defense 
Workforce Council, Defense Strategy Steering Group, and the Legislative 
Review Panel.

    32. Senator Blackburn. Mr. Maier, what is SO/LIC's plan to address 
current staffing shortfalls?
    Mr. Maier. In fiscal year 2022, SO/LIC received ten new billets to 
establish and fill civilian positions related to my office's 
administrative oversight responsibilities. We have recently hired 
civilians with expertise in budget and financial management, SOF 
capabilities, special access programs, strategic analysis, logistics, 
force management, personnel programs, and legislative affairs. In 
fiscal year 2023, we will hire against 15 additional billets. To help 
inform future hiring needs, my office is working with the Air Force 
Manpower Analysis Agency to conclude a manpower assessment for the 
Secretariat for Special Operations. This study will help us determine 
the full manpower requirement for my USSOCOM civilian oversight 
responsibilities as laid out in Title 10 U.S. Code and the Department 
of Defense Directive 5111.10, ``Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict,'' May 5, 2021.

    33. Senator Blackburn. Mr. Maier, what specifically is SO/LIC doing 
to hire qualified candidates to fulfill the responsibilities required 
by law for U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) oversight?
    Mr. Maier. We have prioritized the open billets and are hiring 
across the full range of our statutory area of responsibility. We are 
hiring analysts with expertise in programming, budgeting, strategy, 
civilian personnel programs, operation research analysis, legislative 
affairs, and special access programs. We are working closely with 
Washington Headquarters Service to ensure we have effective job 
announcements with appropriate subject matter experts reviewing resumes 
and filtering and interviewing candidates. I am pleased with the number 
and quality of candidates those announcements have produced, and we 
have made steady progress in filling existing needs with highly 
qualified personnel.
             preservation of the force and family's (potff)
    34. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) recently identified shortfalls in POTFF 
overarching vision and data, what steps have been taken to create an 
integrated and holistic system of care?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    35. General Clarke, what do you assess are the limitations with the 
current POTFF staffing allocation model?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                                somalia
    36. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, how are your operations 
impacted by the reduction in U.S. troops in Mogadishu?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    37. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, what is the assessment of 
terror groups in the Horn of Africa threatening American personnel 
abroad?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                           ukraine and taiwan
    38. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, what lessons have we learned 
from the Ukrainian special operations forces efforts?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    39. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, what lessons learned from 
the Ukrainian SOF can the U.S. apply to other partners--particularly 
Taiwan?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    40. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, how does the crisis in 
Ukraine differ from the requirements in a Taiwan scenario?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                           ransomware attacks
    41. Senator Blackburn. General Nakasone, as ransomware groups 
target American logistics and shipping companies, what can be done to 
improve deterrence across multiple domains simultaneously?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                                 socom
    42. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, how do you plan to divest 
and prioritize SOCOM's focus geographically?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    43. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, as SOCOM embraces 
specialization, can you articulate the potential limitations in overall 
flexibility to respond to crisis?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                        european burden-sharing
    44. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, our European allies are 
beginning to ramp up defense spending. This is long overdue, but it's 
an important step in the right direction. In your view, what kind of 
special operations capabilities should our Allies--including Germany--
be investing in to strengthen deterrence along NATO's eastern front?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    45. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, what are some of the missions 
that U.S. special operations forces are doing in Europe now that our 
European allies could help with, or even take over, as they build out 
their own special operations forces?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                            ukraine conflict
    46. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, it was widely expected that 
large-scale cyber operations would precede Russia's attack on Ukraine, 
yet that does not appear to be the case. Could you speak to how cyber 
operations factored into Russia's military strategy during this 
conflict, and if Russia's use of cyber operations deviated from Russian 
doctrine in any particularly notable ways?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    47. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, have you noticed adaptation 
in Russian cyber conduct during this conflict?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    48. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, have you noticed adaptation 
in Chinese conduct in cyberspace during the conflict in Europe?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    49. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, it has been publicly reported 
that cyber mission teams in Europe conducted defensive operations prior 
to and during Russia's invasion of Ukraine. As the entire forces 
manages multi-theater demands, how do ongoing cyber operations during 
this conflict impact CYBERCOM's readiness to defend against Chinese 
aggression in the Western Pacific?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                    counterterrorism in afghanistan
    50. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, have U.S. special operations 
forces been active in Afghanistan under Title 10 or Title 50 
authorities since September 1, 2021, and if so, what have they been 
doing?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    51. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, what is SOCOM's role more 
broadly in our current over-the-horizon CT approach in Afghanistan, and 
how is performing this role impacting SOCOM's ability to regenerate 
readiness and focus more on China?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    52. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, General McKenzie told this 
Committee that we have not conducted any over-the-horizon operations in 
Afghanistan since August 2021. Do you feel the rules of engagement 
governing over-the-horizon strikes in Afghanistan are too restrictive, 
or do they provide the flexibility needed to find and neutralize 
terrorists on the ground there?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]
                            deterring china
    53. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, the 2022 NDS identifies China 
as the pacing challenge for the Department. How have NSA and USCYBERCOM 
improved our cyber posture vis-`-vis China, and what challenge persist 
in conducting cyber operations against China?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    54. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, how would you describe 
Chinese and Russian cyber targeting prioritiesare they prioritizing 
influence operations, going after critical infrastructure, military 
targets, or something else entirely?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    55. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, how confident are you in our 
ability to use cyber operations to help degrade and deny a Chinese 
assault on Taiwan?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    56. Senator Hawley. General Nakasone, are there particular 
capability or capacity gaps at CYBERCOM that need to be filled so you 
have the tools you need degrade and deny a Chinese assault on Taiwan, 
in particular?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    57. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, how many SOF have been 
allocated to the Indo-Pacific region following the withdrawal from 
Afghanistan?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]

    58. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, which Indo-Pacific countries 
with which SOCOM engages are most able to help bolster deterrence 
against Chinese attack?
    General Clarke. [Deleted.]



  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                        THURSDAY, APRIL 7, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BUDGET POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:32 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, 
Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the President's Budget Request for the 
Department of Defense (DOD) for fiscal year 2023.
    Our witnesses this morning are Secretary of Defense Lloyd 
Austin, Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Michael 
McCord, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark 
Milley. Thank you for appearing before us today, and please 
extend the Committee's thanks to the uniformed and civilian men 
and women of the Defense Department who selflessly serve the 
Nation.
    Last week, President Biden released his Defense Department 
budget request for fiscal year 2023 with a top line of $773 
billion. The request focuses on several key areas, including 
prioritizing China as our key strategic competitor, addressing 
the acute threats posed by Russia and other adversaries, and 
modernizing the Defense Department. Our national security 
challenges have never been more stark.
    One month ago, Russia unleashed its illegal and unprovoked, 
and indeed, a barbaric attack on Ukraine, upending peace and 
stability in Europe. Putin's invasion has inflicted horrific 
suffering upon innocent civilians in Ukraine, threatened 
European security, and caused serious consequences for the 
global economy.
    The Ukrainian military has performed heroically in the face 
of this overwhelming violence and the Ukrainian people have 
shown the world what true courage looks like.
    If Putin thought his actions would drive a wedge between 
NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization] members and within 
the international community, he was badly mistaken. The 
conflict in Ukraine has reinvigorated the NATO alliance and 
exposed the brittle nature of Putin's regime. Since the start 
of the conflict, the international community has implemented a 
severe and far-reaching series of economic and energy sanctions 
against Russia, increased military and humanitarian assistance 
to Ukraine, and reinforced NATO's military presence along the 
eastern flank. The international community has united in a way 
not seen in decades, and our potential adversaries around the 
world are taking note.
    With that in mind, this budget request appropriately 
recognizes China and then Russia, as the key strategic 
competitors for our military. Concurrent with the release of 
the budget, the Defense Department submitted to Congress 
classified versions of the National Defense Strategy, the 
national Nuclear Posture Review, and the Missile Defense 
Review. These, along with other strategic planning documents 
yet to be released, will serve as key guideposts for this 
Committee as we take a clear-eyed approach to what is necessary 
to succeed in our long-term strategic competition.
    An essential element of our strategy going forward is the 
need to build the joint capabilities of our armed forces across 
all domains, including space, cyber, and information 
operations, and I am interested to hear from our witnesses how 
this budget supports joint capabilities to ensure our military 
remains the world's premier fighting force.
    I am encouraged that this budget includes the largest-ever 
request for research, development, testing, and evaluation: a 
total of $130 billion, or a 9.5 percent increase over last 
year's enacted levels. The budget includes significant funding 
for modernization areas such as microelectronics, artificial 
intelligence, hypersonics, and 5G; technologies which will be 
critical for our national defense.
    Our strategy toward China and Russia should not be solely 
defined in dollars by ``how much,'' but rather ``where'' and 
``why'' to achieve the greatest comparative advantage. I am 
also pleased to see that this budget request places a priority 
on taking care of our men and women in uniform and the 
civilians who serve alongside them, by including an across-the-
board pay raise for military and civilian personnel of 4.6 
percent. While this pay raise is required by law for military 
personnel, too often Defense Department civilians have been 
overlooked. This increase in civilian pay sends an important 
message to the workforce.
    Keeping our strategic competition with China front and 
center, this budget request includes $6.1 billion for 
priorities covered by the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or 
PDI. Although we are awaiting the specific details of the 
Department's PDI request, I am encouraged by the progress we 
have made thus far and this Committee will continue working to 
help improve the design and posture of the joint force in the 
Indo-Pacific region, including by improving logistics, 
modernizing infrastructure, conducting exercises and training, 
and building the capabilities of our allies and partners.
    This budget request also includes $12.1 billion for 
military construction projects, and I am particularly pleased 
to see increases in the Energy Resilience Conservation 
Investment Program. The improvements to our facilities' 
sustainment, repair, and modernization will go a long way 
toward the Joint Force's readiness. This effort is further 
supported by the budget request's initiatives to weapons 
platform propulsion efficiencies to save fuel.
    With regard to our nuclear strategy, I understand that the 
budget request supports important steps for the modernization 
of our nuclear triad. Given the reckless statements by Putin 
over the past several months, including an out-of-cycle nuclear 
exercise before invading Ukraine, our allies and partners 
depend on our extended deterrence now more than ever.
    We must also be acutely aware of China's rapidly growing 
arsenal. Modernization of our strategic forces is needed to 
reassure not only our allies but deter any attack on our 
Homeland by either of our near-peer, nuclear-armed competitors. 
But even as we modernize, we should seek ways to promote 
strategic stability, including follow-on talks beyond New START 
to cover all types of nuclear weapons and, if possible, reduce 
nuclear stockpiles when verifiable for all parties.
    Given these strategic threats, the proposed investment in 
tried-and-true platforms like the Columbia- and Virginia-class 
submarines is a prudent decision. Similarly, this budget 
supports the development of a new long-range stealth bomber, 
strengthening the fighter fleet, and building up the defense 
industrial base, including upgrades to the Navy's public and 
private shipyards. Keeping the nature of strategic competition 
in mind, however, it is also necessary to divest of platforms 
and capabilities that are either not necessary or inefficient 
for supporting our strategy.
    Belt-tightening in any department, particularly Defense, is 
always a challenge, but it is also an opportunity to evaluate 
what is necessary and what drives innovation. The Department 
has taken the first difficult step in proposing $2.8 billion 
worth of divestments and retirements of platforms, and I will 
work with my colleagues to evaluate these proposals and make 
hard, but necessary, choices.
    Amidst a global pandemic, climate change, economic 
uncertainty, renewed Russian aggression in Europe, and 
disruptive technologies in the hands of competitors, we have to 
recognize the interconnected nature of the threats before us. 
Congress must make thoughtful decisions about how we resource 
and transform our tools of national power. Now that President 
Biden has issued his budget request, the Committee can begin 
our work of crafting an NDAA that meets America's needs now and 
in the future.
    Again, I thank the witnesses for their participation today 
and I look forward to their testimonies.
    Chairman Reed. Let me now recognize Ranking Member Inhofe.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank you, and I 
join in welcoming our witnesses.
    For 4 years, this Committee has been using this 2018 
document, the National Defense Strategy Commission and I don't 
recall ever having one document hanging around for so long. The 
12 who got involved with this to start with did a good job in 
putting us where we are now.
    Last week, we received the classified version of the Biden 
administration's new NDS; that is this. From what I have seen 
so far, it appears that the new strategy document does a good 
job expanding our understanding of the scale and the scope of 
the threat from the Chinese Communist Party and its military 
modernization.
    There are some things that we will probably have 
disagreements about. We have done that in the past, but we 
continue to consider the new strategy. For example, there are, 
there may be some areas of the strategy that the administration 
is willing to take risks, and the Congress may or may not 
agree.
    But it is clear, and I really can't stress this enough, the 
Chinese threat is beyond anything that we have dealt with 
before in our lives.
    General Milley, last year, you told us that the Chinese and 
Russians, combined, spend more than we did on national defense. 
This year, Beijing announced an additional 7.1 percent increase 
in their defense budget. This is a scary thing; this is a big 
deal.
    Mr. Secretary, I do appreciate that based on the new NDS, 
that you went to the White House to ask for more resources, and 
I appreciate that very much. But even then, the budget just 
doesn't rise to the moment. It doesn't deliver the real growth 
our military needs, and it says it very clearly in this 
document, in the very beginning of the document, the 3 percent 
to 5 percent range is where we need to be. That real growth is 
a recommendation that comes from the bipartisan committee.
    The budget also doesn't reckon with record-high inflation 
we are seeing today in the realm of 7 to 8 percent, and on the 
bipartisan basis, Congress tried to give our defense budget 
real growth in 2022, but the military will end up losing buying 
power due to inflation. This historic inflation is a new, I 
call it the ``new sequestration.'' We all remember when we went 
through sequestration together.
    For me, this isn't just about how much money we spend on 
defense; this is about how we spend that money.
    We need a higher top line because what is in this budget 
right now is not nearly enough to make up for lost time.
    This budget shrinks both, our naval fleet and our Air Force 
aircraft fleet. It cuts end-strength. The end-strength has been 
very disturbing to all of us and I am glad to see the 
investments in research and development. So some good things 
are out there working and we are all doing it together.
    The reason I took so long in this opening is that this is 
the first budget hearing of the season. You know, people don't 
realize that this goes on 12 months a year, and that is what 
this is all about, and we are going to do a good job.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Thank you, Mr. Secretary, the Chairman, and Secretary 
McCord.
    We have been informed that there is a vote that will 
commence at 10:00 a.m. There will be three votes in order.
    So, we will be slipping out, ones and twos, but we will 
continue the hearing throughout the morning and then we will go 
into the classified section at the conclusion of this open 
session.
    With that, let me address a question to Secretary McCord.
    I am trying to anticipate the votes, so I jumped ahead.
    Secretary Austin, let me recognize you for your opening 
statement.
    [Laughter.]

   STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE LLOYD AUSTIN III, SECRETARY OF 
                            DEFENSE

    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Chairman.
    Good morning. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thanks for the 
opportunity to testify today in support of the President's 
Budget Request for fiscal year 2023.
    It is great to be here with General Milley, who has been an 
outstanding partner. I am also glad to be joined today by our 
comptroller and chief financial officer, Mike McCord.
    Mr. Chairman, we are still focused on three key priorities 
at the Department of Defense and they include defending our 
Nation, taking care of our people, and succeeding through 
teamwork. The budget request that we have submitted to you 
helps us meet each one of those priorities.
    Our budget seeks more than $56 billion for air power 
platforms and systems and more than $40 billion to maintain our 
dominance at sea, including buying nine more battle force ships 
and almost $13 billion to support and modernize our combat-
credible forces on land. Our budget request also funds the 
modernization of all three legs of the nuclear triad do ensure 
that we maintain the safe, secure, and effective strategic 
deterrent.
    Of course none of these capabilities matter without our 
people and their families. So, we are seeking your support for 
a 4.6 percent pay raise for our military and civilian personnel 
and other special pay and benefits. We also plan to invest in 
outstanding and affordable childcare and the construction of 
on-base child-development centers and ensuring that all our 
families can always put good and healthy food on the table.
    We are also deeply focused on the terrible problem of 
suicide in the U.S. military. I will keep on saying it: mental 
health is health, period. So, we are increasing access to 
mental health care, expanding telehealth capacities, and 
fighting the tired, old stigmas against seeking help. With your 
support, I have just ordered the establishment of an 
independent review committee to help us grapple with suicide, 
to better understand it, to prevent it, and treat the unseen 
wounds that lead to it.
    At the same time, we are still working hard to implement 
the recommendations of the Independent Review Commission on 
Sexual Assault, because we know that we have a long way to go 
to rid ourselves of this scourge. Our budget seeks nearly $480 
million for that enterprise. Sexual assault is not just a 
crime; it is an affront to our values and to everything that we 
are supposed to represent to each other and to this country, 
and this is a leadership issue and you have my personal 
commitment to keep leading.
    Now, while I am on the topic of leadership, let me briefly 
address our military's role in the world, because, as I have 
said, we succeed through teamwork. As I have witnessed myself 
in the last several weeks, countries around the world continue 
to look to the United States to provide that sort of 
leadership. With help from Congress, we have been able to rush 
security assistance to Ukraine to help the Ukrainian people 
defend their lives and their country and their freedom.
    Last October, I visited Kyiv to meet both, my Ukrainian 
counterpart and President Zelenskyy, and we discussed our 
deepening defense partnership and our unwavering support for 
Ukrainian sovereignty in the face of Russian aggression.
    Even before Russia's unprovoked and illegal invasion, we 
provided Ukraine with a billion dollars' worth of weapons and 
gear through presidential drawdown authority. Now, we are 
delivering on another billion dollars pledged by President 
Biden.
    Our budget includes $650 million more for security 
assistance in Europe, including $300 million for the Ukraine 
Security Assistance Initiative. Just a couple of days ago, the 
President authorized an additional $100 million to send more 
Javelin anti-armor systems, weapons that will provide critical 
support to the Ukrainians as they continue to resist Russian 
offenses in the east and in the south of the country. We are 
also helping to coordinate the delivery of material provided by 
other nations, which continues to flow in every day, and let me 
thank you for your strong leadership toward our shared goal of 
helping Ukraine defend itself.
    Since the invasion, I have spoken and met frequently with 
Minister Reznikov, my counterpart, including on Monday, and I 
have assured him that we will continue this effort and we will 
get him and his troops the tools and the inventory that they 
need most and that they are using most effectively against 
Russian forces.
    We have also reinforced our NATO allies. We sped additional 
combat power to the alliance's eastern flank, raising our 
posture in Europe to more than 100,000 troops. These 
reinforcements include dozens of aircraft, an aircraft carrier 
strike group, two brigade combat teams.
    As President Biden made clear, we will defend every inch of 
NATO territory, if required, and we are making good on that 
promise.
    Mr. Chairman, as you have heard me say many times, we need 
resources to matched to strategy and strategy matched to policy 
and policy matched to the will of the American people; This 
budget gives us the resources that we need to deliver on that 
promise, as well. It reflects our recently submitted National 
Defense Strategy, which highlights the pacing challenge of 
China. That is why we are investing some $6 billion of this 
budget in the Pacific Deterrence Initiative. It is why we are 
realigning our posture in the Indo-Pacific toward a more 
distributed footprint.
    We are going to enhance our force posture, infrastructure, 
presence, and readiness in the Indo-Pacific. This includes the 
missile defense of Guam. That is why we are making broad 
investments in such key areas as undersea dominance, fighter 
aircraft modernization, and advanced weaponry, including 
Hypersonic Strike.
    Many of these investments will pay dividends in countering 
the acute threat of Russia, as well, which our strategy 
underscores. At the same time, we must be prepared for threats 
that don't observe borders, from pandemics to climate change, 
and we must tackle the persistent threats posed by North Korea, 
Iran, and global terrorist groups.
    Now, the National Defense Strategy advances our goals in 
three main ways: forging integrated deterrence, campaigning, 
and building enduring advantages. An integrated deterrence 
means combining our strengths across all warfighting domains to 
maximum effect to ward off potential conflict. Campaigning 
means day-to-day efforts to gain and sustain military advantage 
and to counter acute forms of coercion by our competitors and 
to complicate their preparation for aggression. To build 
enduring advantages, we need to accelerate force development, 
acquiring the technology that our warfighters need.
    So, our budget seeks more than $130 billion, as you point 
out, Mr. Chairman, for research, development, testing, and 
evaluation, and that is the largest R&D [research and 
development] request this Department has ever made. It is 
nearly a 10 percent increase over last year, which was the 
Department's previous high-watermark.
    This includes $2 billion for artificial intelligence, $250 
million for 5G, nearly $28 billion for space capabilities, and 
another $11 billion to protect our networks and develop a cyber 
mission force. This budget maintains our edge, but it does not 
take that edge for granted and, quite frankly, Mr. Chairman, in 
the twenty-first century, you either innovate or you get left 
behind.
    Through the President's Budget and with the help of this 
Committee, we will continue to innovate, and with your help, we 
will continue to defend this Nation, take care of our people, 
and support our allies and partners. With your help, I know we 
will continue to lead.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The statement of Secretary Lloyd J. Austin follows:]

          Prepared Statement by Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III
                                overview
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished Members of the 
Senate Armed Services Committee: thank you for the opportunity to 
testify in support of the President's Department of Defense Budget 
Request for fiscal year 2023.
    On behalf of myself, Deputy Secretary Hicks, the leadership of the 
Department of Defense, and the men and women of our Department and 
their families, let me also thank you for the support that Congress 
continues to provide. Thank you also to the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff, General Milley, who is testifying alongside me and is 
a critical partner in realizing the Department's priorities. I am also 
pleased to be joined by our Comptroller, Under Secretary Mike McCord.
    The President's $773 billion defense budget request would provide 
the Department of Defense with the resourcing we need to address the 
threats that America faces and to advance the Department's four key 
strategic priorities: to defend the Homeland, deter strategic attacks, 
deter aggression while being prepared to prevail in conflict when 
necessary, and build a resilient Joint Force and defense ecosystem. As 
always, the Department is determined to match resources to strategy, 
strategy to policies, and policies to the will of the American people.
    For more than seven decades, American vision and leadership have 
been pillars of international peace and prosperity. A strong, 
principled, and adaptive U.S. military remains central for U.S. 
leadership in the 21st century as we face dramatic geopolitical, 
technological, economic, and environmental changes. The Department 
stands ready to meet these challenges and seize opportunities with the 
confidence, creativity, and commitment that have long characterized our 
military and the democracy that it serves.
    We face rapidly evolving military capabilities on the part of our 
competitors, accelerated by emerging technologies and intensified by 
the potential for new threats to strategic stability and the U.S. 
Homeland. We also face an escalation of our competitors' coercive and 
malign activities in the ``gray zone,'' as well as transboundary 
challenges that impose new demands on the Joint Force and the Defense 
enterprise. Our competitors seek to exploit our perceived 
vulnerabilities, including by developing conventional and nuclear 
capabilities that pose all-domain threats to the United States and 
could jeopardize the U.S. military's ability to project power and 
counter aggression.
    The People's Republic of China (PRC) is the Department's pacing 
challenge due to its coercive and increasingly aggressive efforts to 
refashion the Indo-Pacific region and the international system to suit 
its interests and preferences. The PRC has expanded and modernized 
nearly every aspect of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), including 
its conventional forces and nuclear capabilities, with a focus on 
offsetting U.S. military advantages. The PRC seeks to fragment U.S. 
alliances and security partnerships in the Indo-Pacific region, and the 
PRC's leaders hope to leverage their economic influence and the PLA's 
growing military strength to coerce China's neighbors and threaten 
their vital national interests.
    The PLA is also rapidly advancing and integrating its space, 
counter-space, cyber, electronic, and information-warfare capabilities 
to support its holistic approach to joint warfare.
    As we have seen in recent weeks, Russia also remains an acute 
threat, requiring close and sustained coordination across the NATO 
alliance to prevent further aggression in Europe. Russia's flagrant 
attack on its peaceful, sovereign, and democratic neighbor, Ukraine, 
poses a huge challenge to transatlantic security. Russia's nuclear 
capabilities also pose significant challenges now and in the future.
    While the PRC and then Russia pose the greatest challenges to 
United States security, we must also remain vigilant against other 
dangers. We face persistent threats from North Korea, with its nuclear 
arsenal and developing missile capability, and Iran, with its nuclear 
ambitions and support for proxy groups that threaten the security of 
our forces and our allies, partners, and interests in the Middle East.
    Meanwhile, other threats persist. We have degraded the capabilities 
of global terrorist groups--including al Qaeda and ISIS--but some may 
be able to reconstitute in short order. The whole world has learned how 
deadly and destabilizing a pandemic can be, and we must also be ready 
for other transborder challenges, such as cyber attacks and the 
existential threat of climate change.
    To address these challenges, we have developed a budget that we 
believe offers the right mix of capabilities across all domains, while 
retiring certain platforms that no longer meet the needs of the Joint 
Force. We are grateful for our partnership with Congress as we seek to 
ensure that the Department can successfully address present and future 
threats.
    As we work to defend the Nation, the Department will continue to 
invest heavily in our people, who are the most important element of our 
national defense. Our All-Volunteer Force, with the support of their 
families, and our civilian and contractor defense enterprise, work 
tirelessly every day to defend the United States.
    After decades of leadership and investment, the United States 
enjoys an unparalleled network of allies and partners, who together 
provide an enormous strategic advantage that our competitors cannot 
match. This advantage has been on full display in Europe, where a 
galvanized NATO has risen to the moment and shown extraordinary unity 
in the face of unprovoked Russian aggression against a democratic 
neighbor, Ukraine.
    Countries around the world share a vital interest in a free and 
open international system. Close cooperation with allies and partners 
is foundational to protecting United States national security interests 
and to our collective ability to address the risk of aggression from 
the PRC and Russia, while responsibly managing the full array of other 
threats we face. In all cases, we strive to be the partner of choice 
for our friends. We will continue to work with our allies and partners 
to advance our shared interests and maintain the rules-based 
international order that relies on U.S. global leadership.
    The President's fiscal year 2023 defense budget request seeks to 
address these national security imperatives in three major ways: 
integrated deterrence, campaigning, and building enduring advantage.
    Integrated deterrence entails working seamlessly across military 
domains and the spectrum of conflict, using all instruments of U.S. 
national power and our extraordinary network of alliances and 
partnerships. It applies a coordinated, multifaceted approach to 
reducing competitors' perceptions of the net benefits of aggression 
relative to restraint, tailored to specific circumstances. Integrated 
deterrence is enabled by combat-credible U.S., allied, and partner 
forces, and it is backstopped by a safe, secure, and effective nuclear 
deterrent.
    Campaigning is the way that we tie together the global, day-to-day 
actions of the Joint Force to achieve deterrence. From joint exercises 
to military diplomacy, from advanced weapons tests to short-notice 
operations with close allies and partners, we campaign to make our 
competitors question the efficacy of coercion and aggression. Simply 
put, we aim to convince them that today is not the day to challenge the 
United States or our friends around the world.
    To shore up the foundations for integrated deterrence and 
campaigning, we are moving urgently to build enduring advantages across 
the defense ecosystem--the Department of Defense, the defense 
industrial base, and the array of private-sector and academic 
enterprises that spur innovation and support the systems on which our 
military depends. We will continue to swiftly modernize the Joint 
Force, with a focus on innovation and rapid adjustments to new 
strategic demands. We will make our supporting systems more resilient 
and agile in the face of any and all threats, and we will cultivate the 
talents of our exceptional team, recruiting and training a workforce 
with the skills, character, and diversity that our Nation needs to 
creatively tackle today's national security challenges.
    Ultimately, this year's budget request seeks the resources for a 
Joint Force that can deter competitors and campaign across the spectrum 
of competition and conflict each and every day. But most critically, it 
also seeks the resources that the U.S. military needs to fight and win 
decisively should deterrence fail.
                         integrated deterrence
    Integrated deterrence aims to bring to bear the right mix of 
capabilities to demonstrate beyond doubt that the United States can 
respond across domains and the spectrum of conflict, working closely 
across the U.S. Government and with our global allies and partners--all 
in the manner, time, and place of our choosing.
    This requires that the Joint Force maintain our superiority in the 
air, on land, at sea, undersea, in space, throughout cyberspace, and 
anywhere in the gray zone where our competitors may seek to challenge 
us. Integrated deterrence also requires a safe, secure, and effective 
nuclear deterrent, which remains the ultimate backstop of our national 
security posture, and we will keep our capabilities networked and 
ensure that our warfighting concepts are integrated and optimized for a 
potential future fight.
    To maintain superiority in the air, the Department is focused on 
modernizing our global strike capabilities and continuing to provide 
rapid global mobility to the Joint Force, so that we can respond to any 
conflict or crisis effectively and swiftly. The President's fiscal year 
2023 defense budget request invests in our air command-and-control 
framework; in our surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities; in our 
Next Generation Air Dominance system of systems; in resilient basing, 
sustainment, and communications in contested environments; and in long-
range strike and fires capabilities, including the B-21 family of 
systems and investments in long-range standoff weapons and hypersonics. 
We have also made significant investments in 4th, 5th, and 6th 
generation fighters, logistics, and uncrewed aircraft systems.
    On land, the fiscal year 2023 budget continues to build a combat-
credible, ready, and lethal force that can tackle challenges around the 
world. Our budget request seeks to invest in additional Security Force 
Assistance Brigade rotations in the Indo-Pacific region and Europe, and 
it works to build capacity and improved capabilities in the Arctic. We 
are also focused on developing our long-range hypersonic weapons and 
mid-range capability prototypes on land, and we are increasing the 
command and control and domain awareness capability in our forces 
focused on defending the Homeland. This will require unified network 
investments to facilitate the Joint All Domain Command and Control 
efforts across the Joint Force.
    At sea and undersea, we are investing in mobility, self-reliance, 
and survivability, and our budget request seeks to produce a balanced 
fleet that remains capable of a high level of readiness for power 
projection, sea control, maritime security, and sealift. Investments in 
this year's budget focus on force design to deliver a ready force now 
and in the future, including through investments in ship and aviation 
maintenance, training, and facilities. We have also invested in long-
range precision fires and platforms that ensure our future combat 
capability, including guided missile destroyers, attack submarines, and 
globally responsive, combat-ready naval expeditionary forces in the 
maritime littorals. The construction of our new battle force fleet 
ships and the incremental construction of Ford-class nuclear-powered 
aircraft carriers will ensure we maintain our dominance at sea.
    In space and cyberspace, we must continue to build and maintain our 
advantages over our competitors. The PRC has made significant 
investments in space-based and cyber capabilities. To protect our space 
architecture, the President's fiscal year 2023 defense budget proposes 
significant investments in space resilience and a more distributed 
space architecture. This includes investments in missile warning and 
tracking architecture, launch enterprise investments, protected 
satellite communications, and the Global Positioning System (GPS) 
enterprise.
    In cyberspace, our budget will help defend national security 
systems, including the Department of Defense Information Network; 
enhance the Department's own cybersecurity by implementing Zero Trust; 
build more redundancy and resilience into our cyber infrastructure; 
organize, train, and equip cyber mission forces; advance our cyber 
partnerships with like-minded countries; and reinforce international 
norms in cyberspace promoted by the United States.
    To defend the Homeland, the fiscal year 2023 budget invests in the 
development of the Next-Generation Interceptor for Ground-Based 
Midcourse Defense, and it extends the service life of the current 
Ground-Based Interceptor. The budget also includes significant 
investment in the defense of Guam. We also improve our ability to see 
over the horizon, with investment in new homeland defense radars. Just 
as important is our investment in multi-Service, multi-domain, long-
range fires, including hypersonic capabilities on land, at sea, and in 
the air. The budget request would also procure more than 3,500 highly 
survivable subsonic weapons for new and existing launch platforms.
    We must be able to track, understand, and respond to malign 
activities in the gray zone, including the information space, and 
maintain a strategic hedge against unexpected, rapidly emerging 
threats, including from violent extremist organizations or an 
adversary's use of weapons of mass destruction. We also need to sustain 
a robust crisis-response capability. This budget invests in theater 
integration, including irregular warfare capabilities, internet-based 
military information support operations (MISO), armed overwatch, and 
efforts to counter unmanned aerial systems (UAS) before they launch.
    Our nuclear triad remains the ultimate backstop of our national 
defense. Maintaining global strategic stability--particularly in light 
of Russia's significant nuclear capability and China's expanding 
nuclear arsenal--requires the United States to maintain a safe, secure, 
and effective nuclear capability. The President's fiscal year 2023 
defense budget provides for that investment through the modernization 
of our nuclear command, control, and communications system. It also 
fully funds the Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine; ramps up 
production funding for the B-21 bomber; fully funds both the Ground-
Based Strategic Deterrent and the Long-Range Standoff weapon; and funds 
the revitalization of science and technology (S&T) research and 
development to keep pace with the evolving nuclear threat. The 
Department's nuclear modernization investments will ensure our extended 
deterrence commitments for years to come.
                              campaigning
    Day after day, the Department will strengthen U.S. deterrence and 
increase our advantage against our competitors' coercive measures 
through campaigning: the conduct and sequencing of coordinated military 
initiatives aimed at advancing well-defined, strategic priorities over 
time. The United States will operate forces, synchronize broader 
Departmental efforts, and align our activities with other instruments 
of national power to counter our competitors' coercion, complicate 
their military preparations, and develop our own warfighting 
capabilities, along with those of our allies and partners.
    In the Indo-Pacific region, campaigning requires thinking, acting, 
and operating differently every day, including by re-aligning our 
posture toward a more distributed footprint and building and exercising 
the preparatory elements needed in crisis and conflict, including 
infrastructure, logistics, dispersal and relocation. To that end, the 
President's fiscal year 2023 defense budget request makes clear that 
China is the Department's pacing challenge, and it makes investments 
that robustly support the requirements of United States Indo-Pacific 
Command, as well as the development of capabilities and operational 
concepts aligned to those requirements. This includes leveraging 
existing and emergent capabilities, posture, and exercises to influence 
China's perception of asymmetric, temporal, and geographic advantages.
    Specifically, the budget invests in site surveys and the planning 
and design for potential future military construction projects, in 
achieving initial operating capacity for new missile warning and 
tracking architecture, in defense of Guam efforts, in a framework for 
multinational information sharing and multi-domain training and 
experimentation, and in other security cooperation efforts to improve 
allied and partner capability and capacity in the region. The fiscal 
year 2023 budget request includes significant investments in the 
Pacific Deterrence Initiative, and we remain grateful for congressional 
partnership in our efforts to address challenges posed by the PRC.
    Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine poses a historic challenge 
to transatlantic security. We need to continue robust investments in 
all domains relevant to European security. The fiscal year 2023 budget 
makes significant investments to support Ukraine's self-defense efforts 
through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative and includes funding 
to support security cooperation programs throughout Europe, 
strengthening the capability and capacity of our allies and partners in 
the region.
    The Department was able to swiftly deploy additional forces to the 
European theater through our enhanced presence efforts, increasing 
readiness, operational flexibility, and interoperability with our 
allies. All of this was made possible by sustained investments in the 
European Deterrence Initiative (EDI). EDI has been vital to efforts to 
improve indications and warning, command and control, and mission 
command in Europe. Investments in EDI helped prepare United States and 
allied forces for the current situation in Europe, for credibly 
deterring an attack on alliance territory, and for ensuring we are 
ready to fight and win should deterrence fail. The Department is 
grateful to Congress for your leadership in the provision of EDI 
authorities and resources.
    Meanwhile, Iran challenges Middle East stability and poses threats 
to United States forces, our partners, and the free flow of energy. At 
the same time, ISIS, al-Qa'ida, and other violent extremist 
organizations remain a proximate threat to the security of the United 
States, our citizens, and our interests in the Middle East and South 
Asia. In response, our forces increasingly need to operate forward with 
a sustainable military posture and an operationally ready force capable 
of deterring security threats.
    Our fiscal year 2023 investments in support of campaigning 
activities across the Middle East and South Asia are focused on 
technological advancement, partner engagement and coordination, and 
focused military operations. We also continue to bolster integrated air 
and missile defense and counter-UAS systems. We are proud to cooperate 
with our partners through regional multilateral exercises, MISO, 
foreign military sales, and efforts to secure access, basing, and 
overflight. Throughout the region, we remain committed to countering 
Iran's malign influence and to counterterrorism operations that degrade 
groups that have the will and capability to harm the United States.
    In Africa, we face a series of intersecting challenges--from malign 
PRC activity, the evolution of violent extremist groups, and 
destabilizing transboundary dynamics across the continent. China and 
Russia have invested heavily in Africa to challenge United States 
influence and undermine our partners. In response, our forces in Africa 
are focused on day-to-day campaigning to counter violent extremist 
organization activity, strengthen the capability of our partners in the 
region, and observe, assess, and frustrate Chinese and Russian coercive 
behavior.
    Our military personnel are engaged in campaigning activity 
throughout the Western Hemisphere to combat cross-cutting threats. 
Intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance solutions offer low-cost 
capabilities to compete in the gray zone. Through increased security 
cooperation and the sharing of information, our strong, willing 
partners in the region have become force multipliers.
    In the Homeland and the High North, our forces are working to 
sustain and strengthen United States deterrence to defend the United 
States and our allies and partners. The scale and scope of homeland 
vulnerabilities have fundamentally changed, and the United States faces 
multiple, simultaneous challenges from highly capable and advanced 
competitors, including nuclear and conventional missiles. Meanwhile, 
strategic competitors, rogue states, and non-state actors seek to 
strike institutions and critical infrastructure in the United States 
through cyber means to exploit our vulnerabilities, offset our military 
advantages, and disrupt our power-projection capabilities. At the same 
time, climate change is creating opportunities and vulnerabilities in 
the Arctic, requiring that we develop resilient infrastructure to 
support Arctic operations and train and equip our Joint Force to 
compete in this important region.
    A globally integrated, layered defense remains critical to 
deterring and thwarting potential attacks against the U.S. Homeland. 
Our campaigning efforts in the U.S. Homeland support homeland defense 
by helping our forces gain and maintain domain awareness, information 
dominance, and decision superiority. Annual exercises in the Arctic, 
including ARCTIC EDGE, ICEX, NORTHERN EDGE, and COLD RESPONSE, provide 
valuable experience and lessons-learned for conducting multi-domain 
operations while simultaneously demonstrating the U.S. commitment to a 
free, peaceful, stable, and open Arctic region.
                      building enduring advantage
    Finally, the Department must maintain our enduring advantage to 
continue to field the best joint fighting force in the world. That 
means changing and adapting the ways we operate across domains and 
within our Joint Force and the Department to ensure that the Joint 
Force will deter conflict across all theaters and domains now and in 
the future.
    To construct a durable foundation for our future military 
advantage, the Department--working in concert with other U.S. 
departments and agencies, Congress, the private sector, and our valued 
allies and partners--will move swiftly in five key ways.
    Transform the Foundation of the Future Force. Building the Joint 
Force requires modernization of the Department's force development, 
design, and business management practices over time. That starts with 
establishing a framework for strategic readiness. This framework will 
keep the Department's eyes on the horizon, ensuring that the urgent and 
competing demands of the present are balanced with preparations for the 
future.
    This effort requires investments in training, exercises, 
sustainment, and mission capability in all Military Services, the 
special operations community, and across the Joint Force. The 
Department is also updating and advancing its centerpiece joint 
training program to support integrated deterrence and campaigning by 
demonstrating and exercising our capabilities alongside our allies and 
partners.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget supports the exercise and engagement 
requirements of the 11 combatant commands, increases joint integration 
in Military Service exercises, and trains individuals and staffs in key 
joint skills. Our Department training efforts will better integrate 
major force elements across multiple levels of command and control in 
the conduct of Joint All Domain Operations against a strategic 
competitor, with live forces, virtual forces, allies, and partners.
    Make the Right Technology Investments. The United States' 
technological edge has long been key to our military advantage. To keep 
that edge razor-sharp, the Department will support the innovation 
ecosystem, both at home and in expanded partnerships with our allies 
and partners. That is why the fiscal year 2023 budget request includes 
the largest research, development, testing, and evaluation (RDT&E) 
budget in the Department's history--more than a nine percent increase 
over last year's already historic RDT&E request.
    Our investments to build enduring advantages include resources for 
science and technology research, the National Defense Education 
Program, and the Department's educational and STEM programs, ranging 
from K-12 to the postgraduate level and continuing through employment.
    The Department will also invest further in the Rapid Development 
and Experimentation Reserve (RDER), which brings together the Military 
Services and combatant commands to experiment with advanced and 
emerging technologies. RDER's continuous, coordinated iteration across 
global and virtual exercises moves advanced capabilities into the hands 
of warfighters earlier, while developing new operational concepts and 
demonstrating our capacity for innovation to our competitors.
    In addition, the Department is committed to making the United 
States a world leader in 5G by working with the commercial sector and 
fielding 5G to the warfighter. We are enhancing the cybersecurity of 
the defense industrial base by sharing information and providing tools 
and expertise. By fielding resilient GPS and alternative Position, 
Navigation, and Timing capabilities to our most critical systems, we 
are enabling continuous operations in degraded environments. We are 
also prioritizing the Artificial Intelligence and Data Accelerator 
initiative to support combatant commands with urgently needed data, 
analytics, and AI-enabled capabilities.
    Adapt and Fortify Our Defense Ecosystem. The Department will 
prioritize joint efforts with the full range of domestic and 
international partners in the defense ecosystem. This will help us 
fortify the defense industrial base, our logistical systems, and 
relevant global supply chains against subversion, compromise, and 
theft.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request includes significant investment 
in microelectronics, casting and forging, batteries and energy storage, 
strategic and critical minerals, and kinetic capabilities. The 
Department will also adapt and fortify the defense ecosystem by 
fostering supply chain resilience, including by making use of the 
Defense Production Act Title III and the Industrial Base Analysis 
Sustainment Programs and maximizing Made in America manufacturing and 
procurement where appropriate.
    The Department's ability to strengthen the defense ecosystem and 
project military force is inextricably linked to industry. Our 
industrial partners provide critical transportation capacity and the 
global networks to meet our day-to-day and wartime requirements. Our 
forces in U.S. Transportation Command spend approximately $7 billion 
with industry each year in transportation services to execute defense 
requirements. Our proactive approach and vibrant relationships with our 
commercial partners ensure that we have sufficient military capacity to 
satisfy wartime demands at acceptable levels of risk, making use of our 
industry emergency preparedness programs, such as the Civil Reserve Air 
Fleet, the Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement, and a newly 
implemented Voluntary Tanker Agreement. We also maintain a strong 
relationship with the National Defense Transportation Association.
    Strengthen Resilience and Adaptability. The Department must 
maintain our ability to respond quickly and effectively to emerging and 
transboundary threats such as climate change and pandemics. To that 
end, the budget invests in installation resilience and adaptation, 
operational energy and buying power, science and technology, and 
contingency preparedness. We will also invest in the Energy Resilience 
and the Conservation Investment Program, which allows us to carry out 
military construction projects that make our installations more energy 
resilient.
    To further fight the damage wrought by climate change, the 
Department will strengthen resilience on several fronts. Climate change 
is a fact of life for Department of Defense installations around the 
country and the world that are facing rising sea levels and 
increasingly severe storms and droughts. The resilience of our 
installations is a critical component of our military readiness. 
Further, investing in more fuel-efficient platforms eases the logistics 
burden on the Joint Force and can extend the reach of our weapons 
systems. Finally, we must move with the commercial market toward 
electrification where it makes sense if we are to avoid being left 
behind, stuck with old technologies that are expensive and difficult to 
sustain.
    We must also learn from the current global pandemic and be more 
prepared for future outbreaks. Fighting COVID-19 will continue to be a 
priority for the Department, and our activities will be informed by the 
best science, the most rigorous evidence, and the need to maintain 
readiness.
    The Department has worked hard to tackle the COVID-19 challenge, 
providing urgently needed support across the United States. That has 
included vaccinating our force, their families, and Americans around 
the country, sending vaccines around the world, and supporting stressed 
healthcare systems. Our determined COVID-19 response has also included 
procuring personal protective equipment, therapeutics, and tests on 
behalf of the Federal government. Safe and effective vaccines against 
COVID-19 help ensure that we remain the best and most ready fighting 
force in the world.
    Additionally, the fiscal year 2023 budget request supports the 
Biological Threat Reduction Program (part of the DOD Cooperative Threat 
Reduction Program), which will help strengthen the Department's 
capacity to prevent, detect, and respond to global outbreaks of 
disease. The program also strengthens partner countries' capacities to 
mitigate biological threats--whether deliberate, natural, or 
accidental.
    Cultivate the Workforce We Need. Strategies mean little without the 
right people to execute them. To recruit and retain the most talented 
workforce, we must advance our institutional culture and reform the way 
we do business. The Department must attract, train, and promote a 
workforce with the skills and abilities to tackle national security 
challenges creatively and capably in a complex global environment. 
Investments included in the fiscal year 2023 budget request aim to 
diversify and dynamically shape the mix of skills and expertise among 
our workforce to meet the needs of our missions, now and in the future.
    The Department must improve its capacity to find, support, and 
nurture an innovation-minded workforce to support our warfighters and 
encourage innovative best practices throughout the armed forces. The 
across-the-board pay raise of 4.6 percent is critical to compete for, 
hire, develop, and retain our force. Authorities for incentives, 
special pay rates, and workforce-development programs will be vital to 
growing our team.
    Enhancing diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility is 
fundamental to our strategy. Building a talented workforce that 
reflects our Nation improves our ability to compete, deter, and win in 
today's increasingly complex global security environment--and doing so 
is a national security imperative.
    Taking care of our workforce is also a national security 
imperative. Every day, Americans who answer the call to serve need the 
Department's support to do their best work to defend our country. 
Across the Department, we have implemented initiatives to make sure 
that Service members and their families, and our civilian and 
contractor employees, can stay safe, be healthy, and thrive.
    That includes numerous efforts to combat sexual assault in the 
military. Sexual assault is an affront to our values and a threat to 
our readiness. Implementing the approved recommendations from the 
Independent Review Commission (IRC) on Sexual Assault in the Military 
requires a long-term culture change. We will not compromise on the 
safety of our teammates, and we will get this right.
    In furtherance of these efforts, the fiscal year 2023 budget 
request provides significant resources to reform military justice by 
putting prosecution decisions for sexual assault and other named 
offenses in the hands of trained, experienced attorneys; fielding a 
specialized prevention workforce in every Military Service to reduce 
sexual assault, suicide, and domestic violence; and providing sexual-
assault response coordinators and victim advocates with independence 
and increased expertise needed to foster recovery and to ensure that 
victims have the resources they require.
    The Department is deeply committed to the health and well-being of 
Service members and their families--in body and mind. That is why we 
have been clear: mental health is health. We are steadfastly committed 
to preventing, identifying, and treating mental health conditions 
across the force.
    One suicide in the U.S. military is too many. Suicide stems from a 
complex interaction of factors, and there is no single fix. We are 
addressing the problem of suicide in the military comprehensively to 
increase access to mental health care, to reduce barriers to getting 
support, to combat old stigmas on getting help, and to reach out to 
populations at highest risk. Our fiscal year 2023 budget request 
expands telehealth, implements programs to end stigma, optimizes use of 
mental health providers, embeds mental health providers in units, and 
conducts comprehensive mental health screening throughout one's 
service.
    Serve Military Families. Child care support is essential to many in 
our Joint Force, and it is critical to the readiness, efficiency, and 
retention of our people. The Department provides high-quality, 
affordable child care for children from birth to age 12, through 
installation-based Child Development Programs and community-based fee 
assistance. To help meet the child care needs of our Service members 
and civilian workforce, the Department will invest in the construction 
of additional on-base child development centers, expand fee assistance 
programs, extend eligibility for fee assistance programs to lower 
income Department civilian employees, and support public-private 
partnerships to increase child care capacity in high-demand, low-
capacity areas. The fiscal year 2023 budget request also continues a 
promising pilot program that provides financial assistance to Service 
members to offset the cost of in-home child care.
    The economic security of our Service members and military families 
is also critical. Military compensation must remain competitive with 
private sector pay, and we must address the high stress and demands on 
the force, today's tight labor market, and the effects of inflation on 
our Service members.
    We will work across the Department to enhance support to military 
families, increase access to healthy food, improve financial resources, 
and increase awareness of available resources. The Department is 
focused on the food security of our military families, and we continue 
to gather data to better understand the problem of food insecurity. But 
we will not wait to take action. This is a multifaceted problem, 
without a single solution, and we will pursue several angles to get at 
this challenge.
    The Department will also continue to improve the environment in and 
around our installations. This includes transitioning from the use of 
potentially harmful chemicals and cleaning up the soil and groundwater 
on and around our bases, to ensure that our military families and the 
surrounding communities have access to safe, clean drinking water. The 
budget invests in programs and initiatives to ensure that we are 
meeting these obligations.
                                closing
    Providing the resources for our strategy requires hard choices, 
which are reflected in the President's fiscal year 2023 defense budget 
request. We have made some tough but necessary decisions already, such 
as shifting our posture, ending the United States war in Afghanistan, 
transitioning our combat forces in Iraq, and prioritizing modernization 
to meet future challenges. The Department undertook a rigorous 
analytical process to retire vulnerable systems and programs that no 
longer meet mission needs. That included the decommissioning of certain 
ships, including some Littoral Combat Ships, and divestment of some A-
10s, E-3s, and KC-135s. Taken together, these savings will enable the 
Department to improve the Joint Force's efficiency and to redirect 
resources to higher national defense priorities.
    We are focused on the most important security challenges facing the 
United States, while ensuring that we maintain the capabilities 
required to protect our global interests and respond to emerging crises 
around the world. We must maintain that discipline to move the 
Department forward--and we look forward to Congress's support and 
partnership as we build the force of the future.
    The United States has advantages that no other country can match. 
We have the right strategy, resources, people, and partners around the 
globe to do precisely what the Department has always been called upon 
to do: defend the Nation, protect our national interests, take care of 
our outstanding people, and work as a team with those who share our 
values. We will continue to help lead the free and open international 
system through this tumultuous period to a place of greater peace, 
prosperity, and stability.
    Ultimately, America's strength stems not just from our military 
might but from our democratic values, our Constitution, our open 
society, our diversity, our creativity, our hard-fought operational 
experience, our unmatched network of allies and partners, our valued 
colleagues across the U.S. Government, our civilian and contractor 
workforce, and above all, the extraordinary patriots of our All-
Volunteer Force and their stalwart families. We will meet the Nation's 
security challenges with the vigor to prevail in the near term and the 
strategy, resilience, and wisdom to remain strong in the long term.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
    General Milley, please?

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL MARK MILLEY, USA, CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT 
                        CHIEFS OF STAFF

    General Milley. Chairman Reed, and Ranking Member Inhofe, 
and Members of the Committee, I am privileged to represent the 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians of the United 
States Joint Force.
    Our troops are the best led, best equipped, best trained, 
most lethal, and most capable military force in the world. 
Alongside our allies and partners at any given time, 
approximately 400,000 American troops are currently standing 
watch in 155 locations around the world, conducting operations 
every day to keep Americans safe.
    Currently, we are supporting our European allies and 
guarding Europe's eastern flank in the face of an unnecessary 
war of aggression by Russia against the people of Ukraine and 
the assault on democratic institutions and rules-based 
international order that have prevented the great power war for 
the last 78 years, since the end of World War II.
    We are now facing two global powers: China and Russia, each 
with significant military capabilities, both of whom intend to 
fundamentally change the current rules-based global order. We 
are entering a world that is becoming more unstable and the 
potential for significant international conflict between great 
powers is increasing, not decreasing.
    The United States military comprises one of the four key 
components of America's national power: diplomatic, economic, 
informational, and military, to protect the Homeland and 
sustain a stable and open international system.
    In coordination with the other elements of power, we 
constantly develop a wide range of military options for the 
President, as Commander-in-Chief, and for this Congress to 
consider.
    As the U.S. military, we are prepared to deter and, if 
necessary, fight and win against anyone who seeks to attack the 
United States, our allies, or our significant, vital national 
security interests.
    The Joint Force appreciates the work that our elected 
representatives do to ensure that we have the resources needed 
to train, equip, and manage the force in order to be ready. We 
thank this Congress for increasing last fiscal year's level of 
funding and we look forward to your support for this year's 
budget.
    The Joint Force will deliver modernization and readiness 
for Armed Forces and security to the people of the United 
States at the fiscal year 2023 budget request of $773 billion. 
This budget will enable the decisions, the modernization, and 
the transformation of the Joint Force in order to set and meet 
the conditions of the operating environment that we are likely 
to face in 2030 and beyond; the so-called changing character of 
war that we have discussed many times in the past. We will work 
diligently to ensure the resources of the American people 
entrust to us are spent prudently and in the best interests of 
the Nation.
    In alignment with the forthcoming National Defense 
Strategy, the classified document is out. In the national 
military strategy, this budget delivers a ready, agile, and 
capable Joint Force that will defend the Nation, while taking 
care of our people and working with our partners and allies.
    We are currently witness to the greatest threat to the 
peace and security of Europe and, perhaps, the world, in my 42 
years of service in uniform. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is 
threatening to undermine not only European peace and stability, 
but global peace and stability that my parents and generations 
of Americans fought so hard to defend.
    The islands of the Pacific and the beaches of Normandy bore 
witness to the incredible tragedy that befalls humanity when 
nations seek power through military aggression across sovereign 
borders. Despite this horrific assault on the institutions of 
freedom, it is heartening to see the world rally and say, never 
again, to the specter of war in Europe.
    Your military stands ready to do whatever it is directed in 
order to maintain peace and stability on the European 
continent, a peace that ensures global stability and 
international order where all nations can prosper in peace. We 
are also prepared and need to sustain our capabilities anywhere 
else on the globe, as well as our priority effort in the Asia-
Pacific region, measured against our pacing challenge of the 
People's Republic of China, and in defense of our Nation, we 
must maintain competitive overmatch in all the domains of war: 
space, cyber, land, sea, and air.
    The United States is at a very critical and historic 
geostrategic inflection point. We need to pursue a clear-eyed 
strategy of maintaining peace to the unambiguous capability of 
strength relative to China or Russia. This requires that we 
simultaneously maintain readiness and modernize for the future. 
If we do not do that, then we are risking the security of 
future generations and I believe that this budget is a major 
step in the right direction.
    I look forward to your questions.
    [The statement of General Mark A. Milley follows:]

              Prepared Statement by General Mark A. Milley
                              introduction
    I am privileged to represent the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines 
and guardians of the United States Joint Force. Our troops are the best 
led, best equipped, best trained, most lethal and capable military 
force in the world. Alongside our allies and partners, American 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and guardians are currently standing 
watch in 155 countries and conducting operations every day that keep 
Americans safe. We are supporting our NATO allies and guarding the 
Eastern flank in the face of the unnecessary war of Russian aggression 
against the people of Ukraine and the assault on the democratic 
institutions and rules-based international order that have prevented 
great power war for 78 years.
    The United States military is a key component in the efforts to 
sustain a stable and open international system and an important 
component of our national power. In cooperation with our diplomatic 
corps, economy, and democratic institutions, we are part of the range 
of options available to this legislative body and the Commander-in-
Chief. As the U.S. military, we are prepared to fight and win if those 
who seek to attack the United States, our allies, and partners are 
undeterred.
    The Joint Force appreciates the work that our elected 
representatives do to ensure that we have the resources needed to 
train, equip, and manage the force in order to be ready. This 
legislative body increased the level of military funding for the last 
fiscal year and with that additional funding we are ensuring that the 
future modernization of the armed forces along with funding the 
security requirements of today remain on track.
    The Joint Force will deliver modernization of our armed forces and 
security to the people of the United States at the fiscal year 2023 
budget request of $773 billion. This budget will enable the decisions, 
modernization, and transformation the Joint Force needs to set the 
conditions for the Force of 2030. This budget allows the Joint Force to 
remain on a stable glide path toward that future.
    The people of the United States through Congress provide the 
military the resources we need, and we will work diligently to ensure 
it is spent prudently in the best interest of the Nation. In alignment 
with the forthcoming National Defense Strategy and National Military 
Strategy, this budget delivers a ready, agile, and capable Joint Force 
that will defend the Nation, while taking care of our people and 
working with our partners and allies.
                         strategic environment
    We are witness to the greatest threat to the peace and security of 
Europe and perhaps the world in my 42 years of service in uniform. The 
Russian invasion of Ukraine is threatening to undermine the global 
peace and stability that my parents--and generations of Americans--
fought so hard to defend. The islands of the Pacific and the beaches of 
Normandy bore witness to the incredible tragedy that befalls humanity 
when nations seek power through military aggression across sovereign 
borders. Despite this horrific assault on the institutions of freedom, 
it is heartening to see the world rally and say never again to the 
specter of war in Europe. Your military stands ready to do whatever is 
asked to maintain peace and stability on the European continent, a 
peace that ensures global stability and an international order where 
all nations can prosper in peace.
                     the people's republic of china
    The People's Republic of China (PRC) remains our #1 long term geo-
strategic pacing challenge. The PRC continues to challenge the 
stability and security in the Pacific and is increasingly exporting 
their ability to destabilize countries abroad.
    The PRC has and continues to develop significant nuclear, space, 
cyber, land, air, and maritime military capabilities, and they are 
working every day to close the technology gap with the United States 
and our allies. In short, they remain intent on fundamentally revising 
the global international order in their favor by midcentury, they 
intend to be a military peer of the United States by 2035, and they 
intend to develop the military capabilities to seize Taiwan by 2027.
    Furthermore, they are actively watching the events in Ukraine and 
intend to exploit efforts in order to weaken the United States and our 
allies supporting Ukraine. Where Russia is an acute threat, the PRC is 
our long-term, geo-strategic national security pacing challenge. As 
President Biden's Interim National Security Strategic Guidance stated, 
China is the only country ``capable of combining its economic, 
diplomatic, military, and technological power to mount a sustained 
challenge to a stable and open international system.''
    History is not deterministic; war with the PRC is not inevitable. 
The PRCis clearly a strategic competitor, and it continues to improve 
its technology and modernization of its armed forces. It is imperative 
that we keep our relationship with the PRC a competition and not allow 
it to become a conflict.
                         integrated deterrence
    Integrated deterrence, as defined in the National Defense Strategy, 
is how we will align the Department's policies, investments, and 
activities to sustain and strengthen deterrence - tailored to specific 
competitors and challenges and coordinated and synchronized to maximum 
effect inside and outside the Department. We must act urgently to 
develop deterrence approaches - including denial, resilience, and cost 
imposition - across domains, theaters, and spectrums of conflict. If we 
remain militarily superior to our adversary, then conflict is less 
likely. As history has shown, peace through strength is a time-tested 
approach and our best approach for a strategic way ahead.
                                 russia
    In recent months, Russia - under the direction of Vladimir Putin - 
has taken unprovoked, premeditated actions to violate a sovereign 
nation. With the invasion of Ukraine, Putin has created a dangerous, 
historical turning point and has invaded a free and democratic nation 
and its people without provocation. Shoulder-to-shoulder with our 
allies, we have bolstered NATO's Eastern Flank and imposed wide-ranging 
costs on Russia, demonstrating our willingness to defend the 
international, rules-based order. Russia retains a large and varied 
nuclear capability to threaten the United States and our allies and 
partners, and we have heard very provocative rhetoric concerning 
Russia's nuclear force alert levels from Russian senior leaders. Russia 
has repeatedly demonstrated its capability and will to conduct complex 
malicious cyber activities targeting American protected digital 
infrastructure, both military and commercial.
                 democratic people's republic of korea
    The Democratic People's Republic of Korea's (DPRK) continued 
weapons testing and development poses real threats to our allies and 
partners in the Indo-Pacific as well as the Homeland. The DPRK 
continues to enhance its ballistic missile capability and possesses the 
technical capacity to present a real danger to the U.S. Homeland as 
well as our allies and partners across the Indo-Pacific. They show no 
signs of relenting in their myopic focus on military capability at the 
expense of their citizens and peace of the Korean Peninsula as well as 
the entire region.
                                  iran
    Iran is likely to remain a significant regional threat to the 
United States and our partners and allies. Through its support of 
terrorist activities and a proxy army inside the borders of its 
neighbors, along with its ballistic missile programs, Iran seeks to 
revise the Middle East regional order and balance of power in Iran's 
favor. Iran has continued to develop its nuclear program as leverage 
towards that end. Furthermore, if not constrained through a new 
diplomatic agreement, their continued nuclear program threatens the 
emergence of a regional arms race. Additionally, Iran continues to 
openly threaten to assassinate current and former members of United 
States Government and our military, which is unacceptable.
                    violent extremist organizations
    Following the conclusion of two continuous decades of United States 
presence in Afghanistan, terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda, 
ISIS, Al Shabaab, and others continue to export terror, destruction, 
and destabilization. Until and unless the root causes of instability 
that give rise to these types of groups are resolved, we will continue 
to deal with their attacks to undermine legitimate governments 
worldwide. The root causes can only be effectively addressed by 
governments of the region and we can best influence outcomes with 
diplomatic, economic, information and stability efforts along with 
train, advise, assist and intelligence sharing combined with an 
effective counter-terrorism capability that can find, fix, disrupt, and 
destroy an emerging specific terrorist threat. Through coalition 
efforts in support of local governments and an aggressive counter-
terrorism strategy, we will continue to ensure they do not possess the 
capacity and capability to exert their terror in the U.S. Homeland.
                           allies & partners
    Our alliances and partnerships are our most significant asymmetric 
advantages and are key to maintaining the international rules-based 
order that offers the best opportunities for peace and prosperity for 
America and the globe. This budget allows us to build our partners and 
allies capabilities, foster interoperability, and strengthen 
relationships. Doing so allows us, our allies, and partners to counter 
the coercion of our strategic competitors, the malign activity of 
regional challengers, and meet the varied security challenges state and 
non-state actors, terrorism or any other threat that may emerge. We are 
stronger when we operate closely with our allies and partners. 
Simultaneously, we must be ready for today and prepare for tomorrow.
                      readiness and modernization
    Continued modernization is imperative for the Joint Force. We 
cannot allow ourselves to create the false trap that we can only either 
modernize or focus on today's readiness, we must do both. The United 
States has always had the advantage of time to conduct a long build up 
prior to the beginning of hostilities, we have the fortunate geography 
of having the Atlantic and Pacific oceans as our east and west borders 
and having friendly neighbors to our north and south. With advances in 
technology, we will no longer have the luxury of a long protected 
buildup prior to conflict. Having modernized forces in sufficient size 
and readiness that can rapidly respond at scale will be the key to 
sustaining deterrence and maintaining the peace, and if deterrence 
fails, being able to fight and win.
    Our Strategic competitors are modernizing their militaries, weapons 
and capability. We will continue to modernize ours to ensure we deter 
and, if necessary, defeat adversaries. We will divest legacy systems to 
enable the modernization of our forces not only in terms of materiel, 
but also in terms of doctrine. In the fall of 2019, the Joint Staff 
began to develop the Joint Warfighting Concept (JWC) to address the 
changing character of war, fully informed by the future operating 
environment and threats we will face. The JWC guides how we organize, 
train, and equip the Joint Force. It further guides us in shaping our 
strategic environment and future operations. JWC continues to evolve 
and is being refined through robust experimentation and war-gaming. 
Among the enablers for JWC, Joint all domain command and control 
(JADC2) is a warfighting capability to sense, analyze, and act at all 
levels and phases of conflict, across all domains, and with partners, 
to deliver information advantage to our forces and decision makers at 
greater speeds than our adversaries can react. JADC2's data-centric 
approach to command and control will dramatically increase the speed of 
information sharing and decision-making in a contested environment. 
Conceptual frameworks like the JWC and JADC2 will ensure capabilities 
such as Long Range and Hypersonic Fires, Logistics and Information 
Advantage are employed to the full extent. This combination of 
operational concepts and technology will enable integrated deterrence.
    As important is the education of our military leaders. The Joint 
Chiefs of Staff and their senior enlisted advisors unanimously endorsed 
two documents: shared visions for both officer and enlisted joint 
professional military education. We increased the time our developing 
leaders spend studying the changing character of war and a greater 
focus on both the PRC as the pacing challenge and Russia as our 
immediate threat, which seeks to create leaders fully versed in the 
Joint Warfighting Concept. Furthermore, our shift to outcomes based 
military education will help us better measure progress and the return 
on our investment.
    Our staff college and war college curriculum are being streamlined 
to focus on the warfighter skills necessary to execute the JWC and 
prevail in future conflict. Also underway is the first class of 
GATEWAY, the Joint Staff's newest in-person enlisted development course 
introducing the Joint Environment to E-6s and E-7s from across the 
force. GATEWAY is designed to develop joint enlisted leaders capable of 
operating in Joint Interagency, Intergovernmental, and Multinational 
(JIIM) organizations, and we, the Joint Force, must also focus on 
recruiting the most capable talent so we can develop our leaders of the 
future.
    We are focused on building a more lethal Joint Force ensuring that 
we continue to modernize our concepts, doctrine, training, and military 
education. It is imperative that we continue to invest in capabilities 
that sustain our advantages, while strengthening alliances and 
attracting new partners. Investments in this budget will ensure that 
the requirements our Nation levees on the Joint Force are executable. 
The investments made in this budget will specifically ensure that we 
remain a relevant and ready force while ensuring that nuclear 
modernization, long range fires, hypersonic technology, shipbuilding, 
missile defeat and defense, space and cyber remain at the center of our 
funding priorities.
                         nuclear modernization
    The nuclear triad is the cornerstone of our strategic deterrent. 
Our adversaries are improving their nuclear stockpiles and potential 
nuclear threats continue to emerge. While today's nuclear TRIAD is 
safe, secure, and effective, most U.S. nuclear deterrent system are 
operating beyond their original design life, increasing concerns about 
mission effectiveness, reliability, and availability. Replacement 
programs are in place, but there is little or no margin between the end 
of useful life of existing systems and the fielding of their 
replacements. Managing the programmatic risk is a key feature of our 
approach going forward, however we must also account for geopolitical, 
operational, and technical risks the could pose new deterrence dilemmas 
in the future. Risk mitigation in the programs is one aspect, the other 
area encompasses the nuclear weapons complex, infrastructure, and the 
nuclear command, control, and communications (NC3). All of which remain 
a high priority in the Department and the Joint Force.
                            long range fires
    One need look no further than the current conflict in Ukraine to 
see the devastating effect that long range fires provide. Ensuring we 
have a strike capability without having to also maintain air 
superiority is a critical asset. We must field multi-domain, long-range 
offensive capabilities that are both cost-effective and cost-imposing 
as a means of improving deterrence. By enabling power projection from 
standoff ranges, the risk to critical United States assets decreases 
while the defensive burden imposed upon the enemy increases. The PRC 
has thousands of ground-launched theater-range missiles in its arsenal 
that would be difficult for the United States to counter given its 
current inventories. Investments in long range missiles are a cost-
effective strategy that improves our ability to compete with the PRC.
                         hypersonic technology
    This technology is going to continue to be developed by our 
adversaries and the means and mechanisms for delivery will be varied 
and difficult to detect and defeat. At the very core of this technology 
is a speed that is almost unbeatable. It is for this reason that we 
must invest in this technology. Hypersonics are a suite of capabilities 
that provide transformational warfighting capability to our Joint 
Force.
                       missile defeat and defense
    Missile Defeat is all whole-of-government activities to counter the 
development, acquisitions, proliferation potential, and actual use of 
adversary offensive missiles of all types, and to limit damage for such 
use. As the scale and complexity of missile capabilities increase, we 
must continue to develop, acquire, and maintain credible U.S. missile 
defeat capabilities as necessary to protect against possible missile 
attacks on the U.S. Homeland, allies, and partners. The Ground-Based 
Midcourse Defense (GMD) system, and continued modernization and 
expansion of it, will remain an important and effective element of our 
comprehensive missile defeat approach to defend the Homeland from DPRK 
long-range missiles.
                       optimizing force structure
    To pace the PRC threat, we can no longer afford to maintain weapons 
that are not relevant in the future fight and whose capabilities can be 
matched by superior technology. Sustaining such equipment takes needed 
defense dollars away from the acquisition of systems that are needed 
for modernization. We need to retire aging platforms, and ensure that 
every defense dollar is spent on programs and equipment that will be 
relevant to the high-end fight in contested environments. We cannot 
continue to mortgage our future by being wedded to technology of the 
past.
                              naval forces
    Strategically, the United States has always been and remains a 
maritime Nation, and we cannot have a world class Navy without world 
class ships. Manufacturing our warships overseas is simply not in our 
national interest. Our shipbuilding and supporting vendor base are a 
national security capability that needs support to grow and maintain a 
skilled workforce. The Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget reflects the 
Administration's strong commitment to continued American naval 
superiority, including a properly sized and well-positioned industrial 
base to meet the demands of our current and future defense needs. The 
conclusions from past force structure analyses have been fully 
considered and are simple: ship count is an incomplete metric, as it 
fails to fully capture the capability, payload capacity, and employment 
of ship classes in the fleet. We must have the right ships, with the 
right crews, and the right capabilities in the theaters where they 
matter. This budget specifically procures warships and submarines with 
credible combat power to deter China while continuing remotely operated 
ship development and investing in the industrial base to support fleet 
modernization and on time delivery of the Columbia-class submarine. 
Sealift recapitalization is a critical component of our fleet, 90 
percent of war material moves by sea and the DOD fleet is reaching its 
end of life with an average vessel age of 46 years. Our overall sealift 
readiness rate is consistently below our stated requirements. We must 
recapitalize our fleet.
                              space forces
    More so now than ever, space is essential to our way of life; space 
capabilities are essential to our economy, quality of life, our 
exploration initiatives, and our ability to wage war. Every day we see 
additional commercial space launches and increased competition for low 
earth orbit as well as increased reliance on these space assets by 
Americans. Adversaries are testing and fielding counterspace weapons 
that threaten not just our National interests and advancements in 
space, but those of all nations that rely upon space. Russia recently 
tested both a ground-based anti-satellite missile and an on-orbit anti-
satellite weapon prototype which will threaten our space capabilities 
once fielded. Left unsecured, our capabilities in space will become 
strategic vulnerabilities, and if we begin to lose our freedom of 
maneuver in space, this impact will be felt by Americans of all walks 
of life. This year's budget submission provides a significant 
investment in resilient space architectures so U.S. and allied partners 
will be able to continue to derive the national security and societal 
benefits from space in the face of these threats.
                              cyber forces
    Our adversaries are leveraging the open commerce platform that is 
the modern cyber environment to further their own nefarious ends. The 
PRC consistently uses the cyber domain to collect intelligence from the 
United States Government and to extract proprietary commercial 
information from the private sector. Malign cyberspace actors 
increasingly exploit supply chain vulnerabilities, such as commercial 
software, to gain network access and conduct cyber operations against 
U.S. citizens, organizations, and institutions. The low cost combined 
with deniability and the frequency with which non-state actors conduct 
operations make this domain a priority focus for adversaries to 
asymmetrically compete without escalation in other domains. Therefore, 
we must increase our ability to compete in cyberspace and ensure all 
elements of informational power are integrated into operations, 
activities, and efforts to deter our adversaries and protect the U.S. 
Homeland. This requires investment in partners and technology, building 
and maturing cyber operations and readiness, reducing risk to weapon 
systems and critical infrastructure, strengthening cybersecurity, and 
improving network resiliency.
                             ground forces
    Decision in war is ultimately achieved on land, and maintaining a 
capable land force in the United States Army and Marine Corps is key to 
our overall deterrence capability and national security. The Army is 
rapidly modernizing with innovation, creativity, and entrepreneurship 
in the application of combat power. Modern battlefields are 
increasingly faster, more lethal, and more distributed. To meet 
emerging challenges, the Army is transforming to provide the Joint 
Force with the speed, range, and convergence of cutting edge 
technologies that will generate the decision dominance and overmatch 
required to win the next fight. By 2035, the Army aims to realize its 
vision of a multi-domain force. Similarly, the Marine Corps is 
deliberately transforming its capabilities, capacity, and composition 
through its expeditionary advanced base operations to meet future 
challenges.
                               air forces
    Maintaining the role as the global leader in airpower requires our 
Air Force to accelerate change or lose. In an environment of aggressive 
global competitors and technology development and diffusion, the Air 
Force must have the capabilities to control and exploit the air domain, 
while also underwriting national security through nuclear deterrence. 
To best address these necessary changes, we must balance risk over 
time. The Air Force will develop and field new capabilities 
expeditiously while selectively divesting older platforms not relevant 
to our pacing challenge--all while maintaining readiness. The Air Force 
must ensure its path continuously drives towards readiness to be best 
prepared when called upon by the Nation. Accelerating change means both 
getting the direction right and moving as fast as possible.
    In last year's budget submission, the Air Force began the process 
of making hard decisions to modernize the Force. Last year's budget 
highlighted the Air Force needs for 2030 and beyond, and the message 
has not changed: the need to modernize is critical to counter strategic 
competitors. The Air Force is taking measured risk in the near-term, 
while simultaneously prioritizing an affordable, defensible force 
structure that grows readiness over time and accelerates investment in 
critical capabilities to deter and defeat the advancing threat.
                    special operations forces (sof)
    SOF's full range of core activities, tailored capabilities, and 
enduring partnerships provide critical options for campaigning to 
bolster deterrence. The access, placement and influence generated by 
SOF long-term commitments to building partner capacity and improving 
Ally interoperability provide expanded, low-cost options to gain 
awareness and present an adversary with multiple dilemmas, if 
necessary. Additionally, SOF remain ideally suited to identify an 
adversary's challenge in the ``gray zone'' and counter those malign 
activities with firmness while managing escalation. USSOCOM continues 
to prioritize its operations, activities and investments in the Indo 
Pacific and Europe while maintaining prioritized posture to counter 
threats from the Middle East, Africa, and other regions.
    SOF continue to optimize our global posture to counter violent 
extremists and other non-state actors while sustaining the ability to 
respond to crises worldwide. Focused, deliberate campaigning in Eastern 
Europe over several years has supported our recent response in 
conjunction with critical Allies and Partners. This will enhance their 
resistance capabilities if threatened with territorial aggression or 
abrogation of sovereign territory.
                   people first / people and families
    We must take care of our people. Taking care of our people is a 
fundamental component of readiness. People are our most important 
resource in the Joint Force. We must ensure that we are doing all that 
we can do to take care of and guard our most critical resource in order 
to attract both our troops and their families and retain the best 
talent in the world. Taking care of people decisively impacts unit 
cohesion, recruitment, retention, and confidence in leadership.
    Just one example in the Budget of taking care of our troops and 
families is ensuring that the services increase their childcare 
capacity. The DOD childcare system is the gold standard of childcare 
with 98 percent of centers being accredited. Funding support from 
Congress is vital for fully-staffed military childcare. Childcare is 
key to keeping military families serving and ensuring the safety of our 
children.
    The Joint Force is committed to growing a bench of talent and 
ensuring that all who meet the requirements to serve are able to serve. 
The Joint Force competes for the talent of America's youth along with 
every other business, and organization who seeks our Nation's best and 
brightest. The Joint Force's objective is to field the most lethal and 
combat effective fighting force in the world. We will continue to 
support the accessions of all qualified people to all jobs and 
positions within the Joint Force.
    Finally, another example of taking care of our people and emerging 
realities is the Secretary of Defense's decision to close Red Hill. The 
Secretary made the decision to close the Red Hill fuel storage location 
earlier this year, and this decision demonstrates that we will ensure 
we do all we can to safeguard our most important resource. Closing Red 
Hill is not only an opportunity to demonstrate to our people that we 
care, but also an opportunity to modernize how we distribute fuel to 
our fleet in the Pacific. Moving away from a large legacy bulk storage 
system to a distributed system improves our warfighter campaign and 
ensures safe water for our troops, their families, and the local 
community. Looking for opportunities to take care of our people and 
modernize our force and capabilities is something we will continue to 
prioritize.
                               conclusion
    The United States is at a very critical and historic geo-strategic 
inflection point. We are entering a world that is becoming more 
unstable and the potential for significant international conflict 
between great powers is increasing, not decreasing. The United States 
needs to pursue a clear-eyed strategy of maintaining the peace through 
unambiguous capability of strength relative to the PRC and Russia. This 
requires we simultaneously maintain readiness and modernize for the 
future. If we do not, then we are risking the security of future 
generations. This budget is a major step in the right direction.
    It remains imperative that we redouble our efforts to improve 
readiness and to modernize so that we remain the most capable and 
lethal Force on the planet. Our job as the Joint Force, our contract 
with the American people is that we, the United States military will 
always be ready to deter our enemies and if deterrence fails then to 
fight and win.

    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, General, and Mr. 
Secretary.
    I would like to address my first question to Secretary 
McCord, and that is, one of the concerns everyone has right now 
is the impact of inflation on the budget.
    Can you explain how the Department calculates inflation and 
how it was taken into account in this budget request, both in 
terms of personnel and in major contracts.
    Secretary McCord. Yes, Chairman.
    We paid just as much attention to this as we did to the 
program content that we are going to spend most of the hearing 
discussing. So, when we saw prices changing last year, we 
jumped on it at the same time we were doing our program review. 
We took all the information available to us at the time, up to 
the time we had to finish, which is basically the end of last 
calendar year, built that into our budget.
    What did that mean?
    The GDP deflator, which is what we use at DOD, not the CPI, 
the CPI does not reflect what we buy, so we weren't chasing 7 
percent, but we were chasing an increase up to 4 percent vice 
two. We built that into the pricing of what we buy from 
contractors and then we also, the pay rates, which you 
described, the 4.6 pay raise, we took the increase in wages 
into account.
    The result of both of those things, we added $20 billion a 
year to our program from 2023 through 2027. Working with the 
White House, the Secretary made both points to the President 
both, on the content of the program and on the cost of the 
program. On top of the twenty to $30 billion of programming 
content that we added, we added $20 billion a year to catch up 
on this pricing increase that we saw last year.
    Then comes the tricky part, Mr. Chairman, is the world 
keeps changing. After we finished the budget, the invasion of 
Ukraine spiked, rattled the markets, spiked energy prices. You 
know, we do not have that in our budget. So, the world keeps 
evolving. The global economy, let alone the U.S. economy, are 
very complex and hard to predict what is going to happen next.
    So, what we saw happen last year is not what we see 
happening today and may not be what we see happening tomorrow. 
But with all the information we had when we finished, we caught 
up so that we would not start behind on our pricing.
    The last point I would want to make, I want to acknowledge 
that we have a letter from Ranking Member Inhofe and Ranking 
Member Rogers with a detailed set of questions.
    That would be another opportunity for us to explain this in 
more detail going forward.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
    Secretary Austin, could you highlight for us some of the 
key capabilities that are included in this budget that will 
implement the National Defense Strategy that you just proposed 
and the President has proposed.
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Chairman.
    You know, one of the tenets of this strategy is, as you 
heard me say earlier, is this concept of integrated deterrence 
and the principle here is that we maximize the capability, 
capacity resident in every warfighting domain: air, land, 
space, sea, cyber, and that we are able to network those 
capabilities in new and different ways.
    So, you can see from this budget that we are investing in 
space in a significant way, $27 billion. Cyberspace is another 
$11 billion. Missile defeat and defense, $24 billion. Long-
range fire is another $7 billion.
    So, a significant investment in the types of capabilities 
that we know we will need to be relevant, not only relevant, 
but dominant in future conflict.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    I indicated in my statement the difficult choices you had 
to make with respect to retiring platforms, et cetera, which I 
presume, and I will ask you, is essential to being able to, 
first, have the efficiency to continue to operate, have the 
innovation to anticipate problems going forward. Might you and 
General Milley talk about the needs for this disinvestment?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely, Mr. Chairman.
    As you know, it becomes very difficult and costly to try to 
maintain platforms that will not be relevant and effective in a 
fight with a peer competitor, and so because these platforms, 
in many cases, are very difficult to continue to maintain, we 
need to choose to off-ramp those capabilities and invest in 
capabilities that we know that will provide us what we need in 
a future fight.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    General Milley, please?
    General Milley. Thank you, Senator.
    The divestment to invest strategy that retires a variety of 
platforms, mostly Navy and Air Force that are quite expensive, 
and the cost-benefit analysis to sustain them over time doesn't 
add up, number one. Number two is the technologies in those 
systems, many of those systems that we are divesting are old, 
so we are trying to modernize the force for the future 
operating environment, 2030 and beyond, and that is where the 
investments are in this budget.
    Chairman Reed. I appreciate that.
    I think looking at not just the fighting in Ukraine, but 
also the fighting recently in Azerbaijan or Armenia, the impact 
of drones, for example, vis-a-vis, tanks, they symbolize, I 
think, in a way, the future, where large systems which we 
assumed in the past were difficult to defeat have been handled 
quite adroitly by the Ukrainians.
    So, with that, let me recognize Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. McCord, the chairman asked a question and led off with, 
which I was going to do, but currently now, the question would 
be in 2022, do you want to expand a little bit on that year?
    Secretary McCord. Yes, Senator.
    On inflation in 2022, the GDP deflator, which is what the 
Department has always used, was the budget that you got last 
year at this time was built on 2 percent. We now saw the year 
ended at 4 and that is what we caught up on, so that that 
pricing going forward, building it into our program going 
forward would not be behind.
    The tricky part from now is assessing what is going to 
happen in 2023 going forward, given how hard it is to predict 
these things and whether oil-price spikes are going to persist 
or not persist, things like that.
    Senator Inhofe. Uh-huh. Which I think they will be 
persisting.
    Secretary Austin, there are some who say that we shouldn't 
be talking about the top line; we should be talking about how 
the budget aligns with the strategy. I think we need to talk 
about both, but we only have a classified defense strategy and 
we have no National Security Strategy.
    So, how are we supposed to connect the dots between the 
strategy and the budget? Is there any timeline for the White 
House to release the National Security Strategy to that we 
could have a debate in public about the strategy? Secretary 
Austin. Well, if you, Senator.
    I can't offer you a timeline on when that is going to be 
released. I would only say that as we construct the National 
Defense Strategy, we used the guidance that was available in 
the very detailed national security--security strategy guidance 
that was published very early on in this administration. That 
was very helpful to us to allow us to map out the strategy that 
you now see.
    If you look at that strategy and you look at the budget, 
you will see direct linkages between the budget and the 
strategy, because we used the strategy to fabricate the budget.
    Senator Inhofe. That is good. Thank you very much.
    General Milley, I am going to ask you one question, and I 
already know the answer, because I know you, and I think it 
needs to be stated in this hearing. I want to follow-up on this 
Congresswoman Turner's question from the task hearing earlier 
this week.
    You said your position on the sub-launch nuclear missile 
hadn't changed. I just wanted to confirm, Admiral Richard and 
General Walter your best military advice is to continue 
development of this missile for deterrence purposes.
    General Milley. That is correct, Senator.
    My position didn't change and I think that it is important 
to have as many options as possible for this President or any 
other President.
    But I do want to state, also, that we have lots of options 
and we have a significant nuclear capability, so I don't want 
any foreign adversary to misread what I am saying. I just 
happened to believe that this President and every President 
needs lots of options, which we have, but I think more options 
are better.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. Great.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please?
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you, Secretary Austin, Chairman Milley, and Under 
Secretary McCord for being here this morning and for your 
service.
    Secretary Austin, the Senate NATO Observer Group, which I 
co-chair with Senator Tillis, recently sent a letter to 
President Biden, and one of the things we raised in the letter 
was in view of what is happening in Ukraine, whether we should 
have a more strategic and comprehensive approach toward the 
Black Sea region, which, as we are watching Russia is freely 
using to attack Ukraine and has the potential to shut off that 
region.
    As we think about our future strategy, how are we factoring 
in efforts to address what is happening in the Black Sea 
region, particularly?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Senator.
    This unlawful and unprovoked aggression by Putin has had 
the effect of changing the security architecture in the region 
for some time to come. So, what NATO is now doing is taking a 
look at what has changed and what NATO will need to do to make 
sure that we continue to do what is necessary in protecting our 
NATO countries, defending our NATO countries.
    That work has just commenced. It is ongoing. I expect that 
we will have a robust discussion as we go to the summit in 
June, but, again, it is ongoing work.
    We recognize, however, that change has occurred and that 
change needs to be accounted for.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, again, the Black Sea region is a 
particular vulnerability right now, given what is happening, 
and are we working with our allies in the region on what that 
strategy should look like?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely, Senator.
    Prior to this, we were working with the countries in the 
region on, in terms of their capability and capacity and what 
needed to do to evolve that. That will all be a part of the 
ongoing discussion, but, clearly, they will have a voice in 
that discussion.
    Senator Shaheen. As we look, as you pointed out, the 
architecture of Europe is going to be different because of this 
war, and it appears that we are, right now, looking at a much 
more robust presence in Europe.
    How do we think that is going to affect our long-term 
military posture in Europe?
    General Milley. I wouldn't care to speculate at this point, 
Senator. I would say that as we look at that posture, we are 
going to look at capability in all five warfighting domains and 
we are going to look at capability across NATO.
    We do expect that it will change our footprint. In terms of 
how much it changes the U.S. contribution, that is left to be 
seen, and whether or not it includes permanent stake, permanent 
basing forward or, you know, additional rotational forces in 
and out of the eastern flank, or a combination of both. These 
are things that have to be worked out.
    Again, we will work with NATO on this and to your point, 
it, no doubt, will be different going forward.
    Senator Shaheen. Chairman Milley, would you like to 
speculate?
    General Milley. I won't speculate, Senator.
    We are developing options for the Secretary and President 
to consider on the future force posture in Europe to achieve 
the two fundamental purposes, which is to assure our allies and 
deter any adversaries, specifically, Russia. But right now, 
those are under development.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I was pleased to see that the 
President's Budget included $4.2 billion for the European 
Deterrence Initiative, but in view of what is happening in 
Ukraine, do we not think we are going to have to increase that 
request?
    I don't know if that is for Under Secretary McCord or for 
you, Mr. Secretary.
    Secretary Austin. Well, certainly, that is something that 
we will look at, but let me take this opportunity to thank you 
for what you did in the past to provide us with that. That 
enabled to us very rapidly flow forces into theater. You saw us 
flow a brigade combat team from Georgia into Europe, fall in on 
pre-positioned equipment, and we are ready to go in a very 
short period of time.
    That, in addition to a number of other things that you 
helped us with, created some great capability. But to your 
point, I think we will need more of that going forward. Exactly 
how much, unknown.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    I am almost out of time, but I do want to raise an issue 
around Per- and Polyfluoroakyl substances (PFAS) because the 
2022 NDAA and the omnibus budget bill contained funding for 
PFAS testing and remediation at DOD installations, and for 
those of us who have constituents who are affected by what has 
happened with PFAS exposure at military installations, it is 
nice to be able to say help is on the way.
    So, are you committed to ensuring that all of the 
initiatives that are funded as part of both of those bills get 
out on time and as quickly as possible?
    Secretary Austin. I am absolutely committed, Senator.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Wicker, please?
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    In your opening statement, Mr. Chairman, you talked about 
the acute threat we are facing. You termed the challenges as 
being stark.
    In the statement by General Milley, he said the danger is 
increasing, not decreasing. Certainly, Senator Shaheen is 
correct about a more robust presence in Europe and of course 
that is going to require more funds from the Congress, the 
branch of our government that has the power of the purse.
    I don't see how we can view the current climate as being 
one in which budget tightening is appropriate. So, I would just 
challenge my colleagues on this Committee and in the House and 
Senate to assert our authority as the appropriators and as the 
branch of government charged with providing enough funds to 
provide for the common defense under the Constitution.
    Now, Secretary Austin, let me talk about amphibious ships. 
To your credit, you assured Senator Kaine and me that you would 
fund the Commandant's need for amphibious ships to conduct 
Marine Corps missions. You did this in the Department's fiscal 
year 2023 budget; it calls for full funding of LPD 32 and funds 
LHA 9. So, thank you for working with Senator Kaine and me on 
that.
    However, I have significant concerns for the future of 
amphibious ships. The Department of Defense has not delivered 
the Navy's 30-year shipbuilding plan for Congress. When are we 
going to get that?
    Further, the Department of Defense has not delivered its 
amphibious ship study to Congress; again, when will we get 
that?
    Yet, even without these two documents, the Department is 
proposing to end the LPD amphibious ship construction line 
after LPD 32. Now, by contrast, the Commandant of the Marine 
Corps has been clear: he needs a minimum of 31 amphibs.
    The math is simple. If you end the LPD line after LPD 32, 
you cannot reach the 31 traditional amphibious ships. The 
Marine Corps even included funding for an entire LPD 33 as its 
number one, unfunded priority in fiscal year 2023.
    So, Secretary Austin, why did you not include funding for 
LPD 33 in the fiscal year 2023 budget? How do you propose 
filling the operational gap that this is going to cause? Do you 
think we should take note of the fact that the Marine Corps 
chose LPD 33 as its top choice for additional funding?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, Senator.
    Let me also thank you for what you have done to continue to 
support us and continue to support our Navy and our Marine 
Corps.
    As you pointed out, there is $2.8 billion in the 2023 
budget focused on amphibs. Amphibs are important to us today. 
That will be important to us going forward. There is $5 billion 
allocated to amphibs across the FITA.
    As you know, based upon the Commandant's vision of the 
future Corps, we will track along with what the Commandant's 
needs are, we will continue to work with him. We are also 
investing in an amphibious warfare ship, which is a lighter 
version of an amphib, and we will make those investments.
    But we will continue to work with the Commandant going 
forward and those two reports that you mentioned earlier, the 
shipbuilding plan and also the amphib study, those are 
forthcoming in the next several weeks.
    Senator Wicker. In the next several weeks. Well, very good.
    Let me ask you this, Secretary Austin, with regard to 
Ukraine. You said on Tuesday it is the objective of the 
Government to deter Putin, but as General Milley describes, it 
is very difficult to do so unless you put forces on the ground.
    In the Omni, Congress provided you with $3 billion in 
authority to further arm the Ukrainians, yet we have only used 
$900 million of this, less than a third of the amount 
authorized. This could also be used to backfill the eastern 
flank NATO partners.
    Why hasn't the administration provided the full $3 billion? 
Does the administration not want to send it yet? Is it not 
available yet? Are there throughput problems at the Pentagon 
and how do we fix these problems to get our friends in Ukraine, 
the equipment, the weaponry they need to defeat the Russians?
    Secretary Austin. Well, we communicate with the Ukrainian 
leadership routinely. As I indicated, Senator, I just talked to 
Minister Reznikov on Monday. I will talk to him again this 
afternoon. The chairman is in close contact with his 
counterpart, as well. We base what we are doing on their needs 
and those needs are identified in those frequent engagements.
    We are flowing resources into Ukraine faster than most 
people would have ever believed conceivable. Now, from a time, 
in some cases, from a time that authorization is provided, you 
know, 4 or 5 days later, we see real capability begin to show 
up.
    Senator Wicker. You are not suggesting they are receiving 
everything that they are asking for?
    Secretary Austin. If I said that, I certainly didn't mean 
to say that.
    What I meant to say, Senator, was we are providing them 
with those capabilities that are relevant and effective in this 
fight, and you have seen us do, provide a tremendous amount of 
anti-armor, anti-aircraft capability and also communications 
capabilities, as well as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs). We 
are also looking to help them in a number of other ways.
    But we are providing those capabilities that have proven to 
be absolutely effective in this fight.
    Senator Shaheen. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Gillibrand?
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman.
    General Milley and Secretary Austin, I just want to commend 
the fine work you are doing in Ukraine, with regard to being 
supportive of the Ukrainian people's will to fight and will to 
win.
    I went with a delegation with Senator Ernst just a few 
weeks ago and we were able to meet with the 82nd Airborne, as 
well as our troops in Poland, as well as troops that are doing 
exercises in Germany. I can say it was extremely inspiring and 
something I think that you should be very proud of.
    Do you believe our current strategy is sufficient for 
Ukraine to win the war against Russia and if not, what shifts 
in strategy would you suggest, and second, we talked about how 
this conflict could ultimately be resolved and I want to know 
if you are engaging with any Russian counterparts or whether 
any NATO allies are doing so?
    Secretary Austin. In terms of whether or not we are 
engaging with Russian counterparts, both the Chairman and 
myself have frequently reached out to our counterparts in 
Russia to try to ensure that we maintain a dialogue; that is, 
in the last, since mid-February, that has not been very, we 
have not been very successful because the Russians have not 
responded.
    In terms of whether or not, you know, this is the right 
approach, you know, our goal, our objective has been to make 
sure that we help Ukraine defend itself, protect its sovereign 
territory. They have done a credible job of doing that, because 
they have the will, the determination to defend their sovereign 
territory; that has been really, really impressive.
    But you also need the equipment, as well, to do that, and 
so, we provided them those anti-armor and anti-aircraft weapons 
and also the UAVs that they have been really somewhat decisive, 
for lack of a better term, in a number of these fights.
    Putin thought that he could very rapidly take over the 
country of Ukraine, very rapidly capture the capital city, but 
he was wrong. He was wrong, in part, because he made a number 
of bad assumptions, but also, in part, because of the stiffness 
of resistance that he encountered.
    I think, you know, Putin has given up on his efforts to 
capture the capital city. He is now focused on the South and 
East of the country and our goal is to make sure that we give 
the Ukrainians everything that they need, that we can possibly 
get to them, as fast as we can get it to them, and we are 
pushing it very, very quickly, so that they can be successful 
in that fight, as well. That will be our focus going forward.
    Senator Gillibrand. General Milley?
    General Milley. Yes, Senator, I would say that, you know, 
what does winning look like?
    I think winning is Ukraine remains a free and independent 
nation that it has been since 1991, with their territorial 
integrity intact. That is going to be very difficult; it is 
going to be a long slog. This is not an easy fight that they 
are involved in.
    The first part of it has probably and successfully been 
waged here in the last 6 weeks. They have managed to defeat the 
Russian onslaught on to Kyiv, but there is a significant battle 
yet ahead down in the Southeast, down around the Donbas-Donetsk 
region, where the Russians intend to amass forces and continue 
their assault.
    So, I think it is an open question right now, how this 
ends. Ideally, Putin decides to ceasefire, stop his aggression, 
and there is some sort of diplomatic intervention, but right 
now, that doesn't look like it is on the horizon, the immediate 
horizon.
    Senator Gillibrand. Do you believe we need any shifts in 
strategy or are you, do you believe that the current course is 
the best course? Are there any concerns about escalation that 
you need to mitigate?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, I do think the current strategy is 
the right strategy, which is, number one, do not engage in 
armed conflict with Russia; United States forces don't engage 
in armed conflict with Russia. Second is to continue to support 
the Ukrainian people and their government with sufficient 
weapons and arms, et cetera, so that they can help defend 
themselves. Third is to maintain the cohesion of NATO, because 
NATO is a very powerful organization in its both, the military 
and political alliance in many ways, and it definitely acts as 
a deterrence.
    So, those are the three main objectives the President has 
laid out for us as the uniform military and we will continue to 
execute those and I think that is the right track.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    I have expired my time, but I want a question for the 
record. Secretary Austin, the People's Republic of China have 
rapidly advanced their cyber and information warfare 
capabilities and Russia's ongoing cyberattacks against Ukraine 
are an indication of how this dimension of warfare is bound to 
become more complex.
    What are some broad strategies and approaches that we 
should be considering to recruit more civilians and uniformed 
personnel to improve our cyber readiness?
    You either do a short answer now or submit your answer for 
the record; it is your choice.
    Secretary Austin. I will take the question for the record, 
Senator. Thank you.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Fischer, please?
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I want to begin by noting my frustration with the timing of 
this hearing. We are here today to review the Department's 
budget, but we have no detailed budget justification data. My 
understanding is that the J book will be released mid-April.
    We can't talk about any strategy, either. The 
administration's National Defense Strategy, the Nuclear Posture 
Review, and the Missile Defense Review, were submitted to 
Congress last week, but all of those documents are classified. 
Last year and in 2017 and 2018, this Committee delayed the 
Secretary's testimony so that there was ample time to review 
the budget and have a meaningful oversight hearing and I am 
disappointed that that is not the case.
    With respect to the NDS and the NPR, I would note that the 
previous administration released these documents publicly in 
early 2018 and the committee had almost 3 months to review them 
before Secretary Mattis and General Dunford appeared to 
testify.
    Secretary Austin, in your opening comments, you said that 
in this budget, resources are matched to strategy, matched to 
policy, matched to the will of the people.
    I think having this hearing without any detailed 
information about the budget and when we are unable to openly 
discuss any of the administration's strategy documents directly 
undermines the Committee's ability to conduct its oversight 
work and it is contrary to the spirit of transparent government 
that these public hearings are intended to support.
    I will be deferring most of my questions to the classified 
portion, but I do have a few that we were able to glean from 
the top lines that we were given.
    Secretary Austin, in Section 1684 of the 2017 NDAA, it was 
directed that the Department would designate an acquisition 
authority to be responsible for defense of the Homeland from 
cruise missile threats, but the Department has still not made 
such a designation.
    What is the status of this and does the Department intend 
to make a designation and when or can we expect that to happen 
in the near future?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, Senator.
    We do intend to make a designation and we will, again, we 
will move out smartly on that.
    In terms of being transparent and when the budget, detailed 
budget is released, I would like to ask, invite Mr. McCord to 
make a couple of comments there. But it is our goal, it is our 
desire, it is our mandate to be as transparent with you as 
possible and we will do that.
    Senator Fischer. I would like to continue with my 
questions, since I will run out of time here, but I would point 
out that one of my missions, and I have talked to you about it, 
I have talked to all of the service chiefs to the Joint Chiefs, 
to be able to declassify much of the material that we see as 
members of Congress. I think there are ways to do that, and we 
have to be able to do that so that the people of this country 
understand the threats that we face. So that when they have the 
information and can review that for themselves, they will 
support our national defense.
    They will support our national security, and I feel that we 
have gone backwards here in making these classified documents 
and not being transparent.
    But if I could continue, given the increasing cruise 
missile threat to the United States, again, I think it is 
important that we make this designation. It was in the 2017 
NDAA and that was a long time ago, so I hope that you will step 
up and do this.
    Also, Secretary Austin, under this budget, the Air Force is 
divesting 369 aircrafts this year and buying 87, which is a net 
loss of 282. The 5-year plan projects buying 467 aircraft and 
divesting 1,468, a loss of 1,001. The Navy's battle force 
shrinks as well, under this budget, dropping from 298 ships 
today, to 280 in fiscal year 2027.
    You know, I am open to the concept of divesting of legacy 
platforms, but I think that is dangerous and a dangerous way to 
put stress on the force that we have.
    So, how are we planning to deal with that dilemma and are 
we expecting operational demands to fall, you know, how 
realistic is that?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, Senator.
    First, let me just highlight that there--affirm that there 
will be an unclassified version of the strategy that comes out 
a bit later.
    Again, in terms of a divestment and investment, we are 
investing in those capabilities that will enable us to be 
decisive in the future fight. Those capabilities that are not 
survivable in that fight, I think that we have divest of them, 
and also, because they are very expensive to maintain.
    We can use those resources to invest in future 
capabilities, the kind that we need to the next fight, and so, 
that is our strategy. Again, as you match the budget to the 
strategy, I think you will find a direct match there.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. I hope you remember it has to 
be matched to the will of the American people, as well.
    Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Blumenthal, please?
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you both for your service. I will say on my own 
behalf, that we are very, very fortunate at this very dangerous 
time in our Nation's history to have one of the most impressive 
defense and national security teams in recent history. So, 
thank you for your service to our Nation at this very perilous 
time.
    You know, I have visited Ukraine, as well as more recently, 
Poland, the Ukrainian border with a number of my colleagues; 
Since 2014, I have very vocal, indeed, vehement, in support of 
more lethal arms delivered more quickly to Ukrainians while 
they have lost 14,000 of their men and women in this fight for 
close to a decade against the Russians.
    Now I must say that I continue to feel that we need to do 
more and do it more quickly in providing lethal arms to 
Ukraine, including fighter jets, air defense systems, 
ammunition, Javelin missiles, Stingers, and other systems that 
the Ukrainians can use.
    Now, I agree that it is going to be a long slog, Mr. 
Chairman. It is a protracted war going to the east, but we need 
to be there for the Ukrainians in the midst of this long slog.
    You have said that the outcome is an open question, but 
what troubles me is that saying it is an open question is a 
prediction. The objective is to enable the Ukrainians to win 
and it seems to me that often our strategy seems somewhat 
schizophrenic.
    We want the Ukrainians to defeat the Russians, but we are 
afraid that pushing Putin into a defeat may provoke escalation. 
It seems to me that we need to address those fears and 
realistically provide Ukrainians what they need to win.
    Let me ask you whether you feel, for example, that we can 
do more to train the Ukrainians in anticipation of that long 
slog to use more advanced weapon systems that we could provide. 
Number two, can we provide systems such as the A-10s that we 
are, in fact, diminishing in use in our own armed services? Can 
we provide more enabled assets to be more effective in the 
kinds of aerial defenses that will stop Putin's reign of 
terror?
    Can you give me an assurance that we will do whatever it 
takes to enable the Ukrainians to win, while avoiding the 
escalation into a nuclear confrontation?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, sir.
    Well, first of all, I have to tell you that providing the 
Ukrainians what they need is at the top of my list of things to 
focus on every day, and this is a thing that the Chairman and I 
talk about with our subordinate commanders every day. We are 
personally involved in engaging countries in the region and 
around the world, quite frankly, in trying to make sure that we 
not only provide what we can, but that we are getting some 
assistance from other countries.
    There are some 30 nations that are providing assistance, in 
addition to us, and that is the part that you don't see on a 
daily basis, because we don't talk about it very often. Many of 
these systems are systems that the Ukrainians are used to 
using. They have been very effective, thus far, and we will 
continue that work.
    Can we provide them training?
    Our focus right now is to provide training, where 
necessary, on those systems that we are providing them, you 
know, that we can get that training done in short order.
    They are in a knife fight and so, you know, taxes large 
numbers of people out for long periods of time is not helpful 
to them.
    On the A-10, I will invite the Chairman to comment on this, 
but, again, this is a high-threat, air defense environment and 
the A-10, we have to do the analysis to ensure that if you did 
that, it could survive and I question whether or not it would 
survive in the current environment.
    Senator Blumenthal. Let me ask you this, Mr. Secretary, 
shouldn't we be using, now, the Defense Production Act to 
produce more of the Javelins, the Stingers, all of the stocks 
that we are using and diminishing and running low on and our 
allies, as well, shouldn't we be applying the Defense 
Production Act?
    Secretary Austin. We are pushing hard and engaging industry 
to make sure that we move the production of these items as 
quickly as we can, and that is not an easy task with at least 
one of the items there. But we will move this, continue to move 
this in terms of additional production as fast and efficiently 
as we can.
    Senator Blumenthal. Are you alarmed that the Russians are 
not returning your call, that they are not communicating with 
you? Shouldn't we be alarmed?
    Secretary Austin. Disappointed, for sure. But, you know, 
again, based upon what they have done, nothing surprises me, 
but it doesn't mean that we will stop reaching out to engage 
them. I think we have to have the ability to talk to the 
leadership.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Cotton, please?
    Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, why will you not say the 
words ``win'' and ``victory'' when it comes to Ukraine?
    Senator Blumenthal just gave an impassioned speech about 
this. It is clear that it is what both parties want.
    I reviewed your written testimony. You talk about 
deterrence 29 times. You never once used the word ``win'' or 
``victory'' in reference to Ukraine, nor does the Secretary of 
State, the National Security Advisor, the vice president, or 
the President.
    Have the words ``win'' and ``victory'' been purged from the 
administration's vocabulary when it comes to Ukraine?
    Secretary Austin. The word ``win'' has certainly not been 
purged from our vocabulary.
    Senator Cotton. Do you want Ukraine to win or do you want 
this war merely to end?
    Secretary Austin. I think the Chairman pointed out very 
accurately what our desired end state would be: Ukraine 
maintains its sovereignty and its ability to protect its 
country, defend itself; it maintains its government.
    Russia is weakened militarily and Russia, from a 
geopolitical standpoint, has, you know, is a pariah and, you 
know, countries will not volunteer to align itself with Russia. 
Some of that will happen, but we can see those kinds of things 
beginning to happen.
    Senator Cotton. I thought, I mean, I thought the Chairman's 
response to Senator Gillibrand was pretty good on this point 
about what Ukraine winning looked like: a free and independent 
Ukraine with sovereignty and control over its own territory.
    Does that include the territory that Russia or Russian 
proxies controlling the Donbas, as of February 24, the day 
before the invasion?
    Secretary Austin. I think it is appropriate to let 
President Zelenskyy and the Government of Ukraine define what 
that is going forward, sir.
    Senator Cotton. Are you or anyone else in the 
administration discouraging President Zelenskyy or your 
counterparts from launching attacks that would involve taking 
back any part of the Donbas or the Crimea?
    Secretary Austin. No.
    Senator Cotton. Are you providing them intelligence to 
conduct such attacks?
    Secretary Austin. We are providing them intelligence to 
conduct operations in the Donbas; that is correct.
    Senator Cotton. In the Donbas, on the territory that Russia 
or its proxies controlled before the invasion?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. We are going to make----
    Senator Cotton. Offensive operations to reclaim their own 
territory, are you providing that intelligence to them?
    Secretary Austin. We want to make sure that is clear to our 
force, and so updated guidance that goes out today, we will 
make sure that that is clear.
    Senator Cotton. Updated guidance. So, that means that the 
current guidance has said, don't provide that information?
    Secretary Austin. Well, certainly, the current guidance was 
not clear in that regard, so we will make sure it is clear.
    Senator Cotton. I think this is part of what you heard from 
both parties in this Committee, is that as much as we have 
done, we are still engaged in too many half-measures. There is 
still too much hesitancy intended to miss in our posture 
towards this war.
    I just want to talk about our own posture. Admiral Richard 
testified to the Committee that he had advised that we should 
go forward with a normal routine, regularly scheduled test of 
our ICBMs. That test was postponed and now it has been 
canceled.
    Why did you cancel that test, Mr. Secretary?
    Secretary Austin. Well, we postponed it so that, you know, 
again, we are at a very tenuous point. We wanted to make sure 
that we were doing prudent things and managing escalation, and 
we reached a point where I made the decision that we had 
postponed it to the degree that it was best to go ahead and 
cancel it.
    I would tell you that I am confident in our ability to 
maintain our programs and to stay on track and to provide a 
credible deterrence and to protect our allies and partners.
    Senator Cotton. Well, this, see, I am confident, as well. I 
am confident because we do conduct these routine tests. We 
don't cancel them because Volodymyr Putin has decided to invade 
one of his neighbors.
    The fact that we postponed it and then we canceled it 
because it is escalatory, to me, just says to Volodymyr Putin, 
that we are nervous about what he is going to do, as opposed to 
trying to make him nervous about what Ukraine and America and 
NATO is going to do next. This is a form of----
    Secretary Austin. If we were concerned about him being 
nervous----
    Senator Cotton. This is a form of self-deterrence. I mean, 
the Chairman has said this war could go on for years.
    If a missile test in March of 2022 is escalatory, is it 
going to be escalatory in 2023 and 2024 and 2025?
    Secretary Austin. It really depends on what is going on at 
that point in time.
    Senator Cotton. All right.
    Secretary Austin. If you will look at, I know it is not 
lost on you, Senator, that we have rapidly deployed forces to 
the eastern flank. We have pushed in a tremendous amount of 
security assistance to Ukraine, and none of those actions 
indicate that we are afraid of Mr. Putin.
    Senator Cotton. All right.
    One final question for the Mr. Chairman. General Milley, I 
constantly hear concerns about professional military education 
across the services, that it is not focused enough on rigorous, 
operationally focused education.
    There is too much things that are kind of beyond the core 
warfighters' domain like, you know, international studies, or 
development, economics. You put out a very strong memo on this 
in May of 2020. Unfortunately, I still hear that some of the 
schools are not implementing that fully.
    Could you talk to me a little bit about your concerns in 
that memo and what plans you have to make sure that that is 
driven down to the lowest level at our professional military 
education schools?
    General Milley. Yes, thanks, Senator.
    Look, the U.S. military has two tasks: prepare for war and 
fight and win wars. That is it, and the PME is designed to do 
that.
    We set out that guidance in 2020 to emphasize that, 
warfighting, operational skills, strategic thought, et cetera, 
and we do periodic reviews. I just got a report probably about 
a couple of weeks ago, actually.
    I said, how many contact hours do we do in the war colleges 
and staff colleges? It came out to, round figures, just under 
5,000.
    I did the math, my guys did the math, the analysis, and 80 
percent of that time was spent on warfighting, operational art, 
and strategy. The others are spent on things like congressional 
engagement, public affairs, administrative tests you have to do 
to run the military.
    So, it is focused, 80 percent of the time is focused on the 
warfighting skills necessary for command and leadership at the 
staff level at different organizations.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Cotton. I would really like to take it to 100 
percent.
    General Milley. Sure.
    Senator Cotton. I bet the one thing you would like to 
strike is the congressional engagement?
    General Milley. No, it is an important----
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Hirono, please?
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Austin, I want to commend you for reaching the 
decision that you did to de-fuel and permanently close the Red 
Hill storage facility on Oahu. Ensuring the health and safety 
of our citizens has been my number one priority, and this 
decision not only protects the island's drinking water, but 
will ultimately benefit operations in INDOPACOM as we look to 
expand our ability to operate in a distributed manner across 
the AOR.
    I also would like to particularly thank Deputy Secretary of 
Defense Katherine Hicks for her diligent work on this issue and 
her communicating with me personally. The closure of Red Hill 
is going to be a multi-year, multi-phase endeavor. There is a 
de-fueling process, itself; the closure of the facility; the 
cleanup of the site. The entire effort will require significant 
planning and resources for years to come.
    I ask you to work closely with the Hawaii Department of 
health and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as we go 
forward. The funding in the President's Budget shows DOD's 
commitment to the long-term closure and cleanup of Red Hill and 
demonstrates, very importantly to the people of Hawaii that the 
environmental remediation will not fall to the wayside.
    Secretary Austin, would you like to add any comment to 
this?
    Secretary Austin. Just a couple, Senator.
    First of all, I want to thank you, personally, for your 
leadership and that of your colleagues in doing the work that 
you did to help us work our way through this and we remain 
grateful to that. I would also highlight that the safety and 
security and the health of our troops, our families, the people 
in the community, it is absolutely important to the Department 
of Defense.
    You are correct, we have allocated funds that will help us 
begin to address the critical components here going forward. 
The de-fueling process, remediation, will be, no doubt, carry a 
significant expense, and I certainly hope that Congress will 
continue to support us, as you have done to this point. So, 
thank you.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you for your continued leadership.
    Secretary, it is my understanding that this year, the 
National Defense Strategy and the Missile Defense Review were 
developed simultaneously for the first time to ensure alignment 
of decision-making across these documents.
    In the NDS, one of your four stated priorities is defending 
the Homeland, which will make sense to ensure that missile 
defense is in line with that priority. Though the budget 
justification books are not out yet, one concern I have is for 
the defense of Hawaii for missile threats.
    To date, the Department has spent significant resources on 
HDH--HDR-H Hawaii, which I have supported, because we were told 
many times that this was required by the operational 
commanders. While we wait for greater detail on the 
Department's decision relating to the future of HDR-H Hawaii, I 
would like to understand the Department's position on defense 
of Hawaii and how, if HDR-H Hawaii is not funded, how the 
Department plans to upgrade radar discrimination capability for 
the defense of Hawaii.
    The question is, Secretary Austin, what is your plan for 
the future defense of Hawaii from missile threats?
    Secretary Austin. In terms of the defense of Hawaii right 
now, we are absolutely committed to defending this country. 
Hawaii is a key part of that defense and certainly is defended 
as we speak.
    Now, going forward, Senator, you will note that we are 
investing $24.7 billion in----
    Senator Hirono. Yes.
    Secretary Austin.--in missile defense and defeat, and so, 
you know, we are developing the next-generation interceptor 
and, you know, our goal is to stay two steps ahead of our 
adversaries' emerging technologies and Hawaii will absolutely 
be a key part of that.
    Senator Hirono. So, just to be clear, then, if we are not 
going to be continuing to fund HDR-H Hawaii, that you are 
developing, as you mentioned, the next-gen interceptors to make 
sure that Hawaii is defended against missile threats?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you.
    I just want to add my voice of concern regarding Senator 
Wicker's line of questioning, relating to amphibious ships and 
the fact that there will be only 3 of the 13 planned purchases 
of the San Antonio-class ships. So, I just want to add my 
concern that General Berger had asked for 31 ships and we are 
falling short of that, so I hope that you have said that you 
are continuing to work with General Berger, so I hope that we 
can come to a positive resolution of the need that he has for 
these ships.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Rounds, please?
    Senator Rounds. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, let me begin by saying thank you to all of you 
for your service to our country.
    Secretary Austin, I appreciated the comments, the 
clarifications, and so forth that you shared with Senator 
Cotton. I think it is really important that the American people 
understand that we want the Ukrainians to win and that we will 
support them with the appropriate background intelligence 
information and weapons so that they can regain the territory 
that has been lost to Russia, and that includes the area in the 
Donbas. I think that is a very important, clarifying point, so 
I thank you for that, sir.
    I also, Mr. Secretary, and if this is an issue which you 
would prefer to have Mr. McCord address, that is fine with me, 
sir, but the industrial base that we have today in the United 
States is one that we, particularly, the Defense Industrial 
Base is one that sometimes comes under question with regard to 
our long-term capabilities and, yet, it is something that has 
been of concern to this Committee. I think that the Joint 
Chiefs have expressed their concern in the past about our 
ability to respond and to build the weapons and to maintain the 
weapon systems that we have.
    I want to point out one that we have in the past, and while 
it did not start on your watch, sir, I think it is critical 
that we fix it as soon as possible. What I would like to talk 
about is an example that I have talked about before. The 
ability of the Navy, and I am going to use the Navy, because we 
have used the Navy in the past, the ability of the Navy to 
manage scheduled maintenance for its vessels is beyond 
concerning.
    The USS Boise is a case in point, but far from being the 
only example. Now, the USS Boise is a Los Angeles-class nuclear 
attack sub. It was commissioned in November of 1992. The Boise 
has not been on patrol since 2015. It lost its dive 
certification in 2017.
    Now, we have had some of our folks, my MLA was onboard the 
Boise in September of 2019, as its crew executed pre-
maintenance procedures. Here we are, 7-years-plus later since 
it was last on patrol and it is still awaiting its engineered 
overhaul and there is no funding to allow this to happen until 
at the earliest, fiscal year 2024, but probably fiscal year 
2025.
    Now, this is what is concerning. Multiple captains of the 
Boise have spent their entire command at sea tour while it has 
been stuck in limbo. American taxpayers continue to pay for a 
nuclear attack submarine that hasn't executed its mission in 7 
years.
    Now, myself and my colleagues have asked tough questions of 
Navy leaders for at least the last 5 years and yet nobody in 
the Navy has been able to solve the problem.
    Now, I am hearing that the Boise may be decommissioned 
without ever receiving an overhaul.
    I think this is simply not acceptable to have the taxpayer-
funded, nuclear attack submarine with those capabilities out of 
service for more than 7 years and we can't seem to get to the 
bottom of what the problem is.
    Mr. Secretary, I am not sure if you are prepared to discuss 
this or if you would like to have Mr. McCord attempt it, but I 
would sure like to hear your thoughts.
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, sir.
    I would certainly invite Secretary McCord to make comments 
as well, but a couple of points that I would make up front is 
that, as you have heard me say, we continue to invest in our 
sub capability, especially the Columbia-class and that will 
continue going forward. We think it is critical.
    But the issue that you raise, I think, is an issue of 
capacity in our shipyards and so this budget invests $1.7 
billion in public shipyard capacity and the industrial base. I 
think it is critical and we will continue to do our part to 
make sure that we are helping industry have what it, are 
helping create the capacity to take care of our capabilities 
here.
    Senator Rounds. Mr. Secretary, thank you.
    Perhaps rather than spending the rest of my time on this 
particular one, could I ask, would you get back with us and 
let's find a solution to this problem.
    Secretary Austin. Sure. Absolutely.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    General Milley, I have just one question for you and that 
is, I know that you have been an Army officer and that you have 
commanded ground troops and you understand the need to have all 
possible systems available for their use.
    There was and there continues to be a question as to 
whether or not land mines should be a part of our systems of 
operations and, yet, sometimes I think people get a 
misunderstanding of the difference between anti-vehicle land 
mines and those which are anti-personnel land mines and they 
don't understand the differences on them.
    This is a needed capability for our Armed Forces, is to 
have the ability for these land mines to be able to be used in 
certain situations. You understand that.
    The Army has been developing land mine alternatives for 
over 12 years, yet the objective capability is not scheduled to 
be fielded until at least fiscal year 2030 or 2031. To me, the 
results are unacceptable to the mission and to the force.
    General Milley, could you, using your best professional 
military advice, share with this Committee, the need or without 
the need for the upgrade of land mines and its critical 
importance to our Armed Forces.
    General Milley. Thank you, Senator.
    I do think land mines are important, especially if you are 
in the defense, but also in any other capability in order to 
shape enemy operations. We need to look no further than what is 
happening, actually, in Ukraine. Land mines are being 
effectively used by the Ukrainian Forces to shape the avenues 
of approach by Russian armored forces, which puts them into 
engagement areas and makes them vulnerable to the anti-tank, 
the 60,000 anti-tank weapon systems that we are providing the 
Ukrainians. So, that is one of the reasons why you see column 
after column of Russian vehicles that are destroyed.
    So, anti-tank or anti-personnel mines are a very effective 
use in combat. There is a policy governing those for the United 
States for use and we are, the reason we are developing a newer 
one is so that they time out and they don't present harm after 
the conclusion of hostilities and they would self-detonate or 
self-, you know, destroy. They become inert at the end of 
hostilities. So, but land mines are a very effective use in 
combat.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Thank you very 
much.
    Senator Kaine, please?
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Thank you to our witnesses for your service and for your 
effective work in recent months.
    So, as Russia moves the focus on their military operations 
to Donbas and the South, how would you, Secretary and Chairman, 
characterize North and West Ukraine, now, is it battlefield or 
non-battlefield?
    Secretary Austin. Well, I would still categorize it as part 
of the operating environment, the battlefield, the battle 
space. There is no telling what Mr. Putin will decide going 
forward. Certainly, we expect that he will continue to conduct 
strikes throughout that landscape and so, in my view, it is 
still part of the battlefield.
    Senator Kaine. General?
    General Milley. Yes, the same thing.
    I mean, the main effort, if you will, of the Russians is 
shifting to the South and the city of Donbas, as reported 
through the news. That really goes from Kherson all the way up 
through Kharkiv with the main effort in the vicinity of Izium.
    But the rest of Ukraine is still a battlefield, because 
there is air and missile strikes that still go on and, you 
know, Russian Special Operations Forces are still operating in 
some of those areas. So, it is clearly still a combat zone and 
the rest of Ukraine, as well.
    Senator Kaine. As the war ratchets up in the South and 
East, do you agree with me that it is likely that Ukrainians in 
that region, in some numbers, will try to flee the region, 
either to other parts of Ukraine or to other countries?
    General Milley. I think for civilians, the answer, you 
know, the human instinct to survive is very powerful, so as 
they recognize the danger they are in, I think there will be a 
high likelihood that additional refugees or internally 
displaced persons will leave. We already have got five million 
or so refugees and another five million, I think, of internally 
displaced. We are well over 10 million right now and I would 
imagine more will leave that area.
    Senator Kaine. As a general matter, I think Ukrainians 
would like to say in their own country.
    If we could shape it, wouldn't it be better for those 
fleeing the East to go elsewhere in Ukraine if they were safe, 
rather than to go into other nations, where they are a 
significant burden on other countries?
    General Milley. Sure.
    Senator Kaine. If President Zelenskyy were to appeal to the 
United States, NATO, the U.N., and say, the ratcheting up of 
the war in the East is going to create such a pressure for 
people to flee, these people want to stay in Ukraine, can you 
guys, our allies and NGOs flood humanitarian relief into 
Western Ukraine, shelter, medical capacity, food, so that 
displaced persons in large numbers, will be able to come to a 
place in Ukraine, rather than flee across the borders and if 
President Zelenskyy were to ask for the United States' 
assistance in doing that, should we seriously entertain that 
request?
    General Milley. I would say that is a policy question, but 
in terms of humanitarian aid, there is a lot of humanitarian 
aid moving into Ukraine in addition to the military. But the 
latter question, or the question, itself, I think is more 
appropriate as a policy question.
    Senator Kaine. Mr. Secretary?
    Secretary Austin. I agree with the Chairman, Senator. It is 
a question that our leadership will have to take on and be very 
deliberate about. One of the things that we would need to 
consider is what we need to do if we are going to put people in 
there to protect that area, and that is a decision that takes 
you to, you know, to fighting the Russians.
    That is a pretty significant decision, but I would 
emphasize what the Chairman has said, United States Agency for 
International Development (USAID) and others are flowing a lot 
of humanitarian assistance across the border now and the 
Europeans are pretty good at providing this kind of assistance.
    Senator Kaine. Right. Let me switch topics.
    Some of my colleagues have raised the concern about 
inflation and what that means with respect to the defense 
budget. There is other economic trends, other than inflation: 
historic job growth right now, historic growth in the GDP, 
historic growth in wages and salaries.
    This morning, new unemployment claims were announced and it 
is the lowest number since 1968. In January of 2021, we are 
seeing 965,000 new unemployment claims a week. It is 166,000 
now.
    Many of us met with Admiral Gilday and Secretary Del Toro 
this morning. We asked about, hey, that is fantastic, the 
strong job growth is great, but it also creates workforce 
challenges, both within the uniform service, but also in our 
industrial base.
    How are you tackling the workforce needs of our defense 
system today when the unemployment rate is dropping so quickly?
    Secretary Austin. Well, that certainly does, one of the 
things that creates headwinds for us going forward in terms of 
recruiting not only uniform personnel, but also getting the 
right kinds of talent that we need to fill our ranks here. We 
will continue to, you know, devote resources to making sure 
that we are doing the right things and marketing and 
advertising and outreach.
    But these are challenges that we faced before and we are 
just going to have to double-down and make sure that we are 
active in the right areas and we are committing the right 
resources to make sure that we get the quality people that we 
need to be successful.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Ernst, please?
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Gentlemen, thank you so much for your continued service to 
our great country. We are appreciative.
    Secretary Austin, there has been a lot of discussion about 
Ukraine and Russia this morning. In your opening statement, you 
did say that United States security policy must reflect the 
will of the American people. The American people right now, we 
are calling on the administration to do more and to be tougher 
on Russia and bring more capability to bear for Ukraine.
    The Washington Post just this morning, in one of their 
polls, found that 56 percent of Americans think we haven't been 
tough enough on Russia. So, whatever the hesitancy to say when 
for Ukraine, victory for Ukraine, I will say it, and I know a 
number of my colleagues will say it. I feel very firmly about 
victory for Ukraine and maintaining its sovereign integrity as 
a nation. Their democratic form of governance, is it all very 
important to so many Americans, because so much Americans see 
themselves reflected in the Ukrainians. They are a first world 
country. They have come a long way over the last 30 years. So, 
success to me, is still a free and sovereign Ukraine.
    So, I do hope that we will continue to press very hard to 
make sure. As you say, things are speeding up, delivery of 
lethal aid, but we absolutely must ensure that we are doing 
everything we can for the country of Ukraine and the citizens 
that are there.
    So, I am going to turn, because we have focused lot offer 
Ukraine and Russia. General Milley, I just, I would like to 
jump to Central Command, if we can. I am concerned about the 
budgetary cuts and some of the flatlines that we are seeing 
across our CENTCOM operations budget.
    Many of the extremist organizations that are backed by the 
Iranian regime are striking across the region and there are 
four terrorist organizations that are now operating in 
Afghanistan and yet we don't have a United States footprint 
there to make sure that they aren't pushing threats against our 
Homeland.
    So, have your Gulf State military counterparts, 
particularly, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Abraham Accords-
member countries, react to our reduced military budget, have 
you had any input from them?
    General Milley. Not about the budget per se, but there is 
concern because we have, the Department of Defense, we are 
doing a global posture review, as you know, and we are making 
adjustments to the footprint and then the Ukraine situation is 
a new development since we began that review quite some time 
ago. CENTCOM is part of that review, as well.
    So, there is concern in the CENTCOM area of operations 
about what the result will be in terms of the footprint in 
CENTCOM and we are continuing to work with our allies and 
partners to make sure that it is appropriate to the level of 
threat. We clearly recognize the terrorist threat both, the 
residual threat in Afghanistan, but also throughout the 
region----
    Senator Ernst. Uh-huh.
    General Milley.--and we think that we do have ``over the 
horizon'' capabilities, which we can discuss in classified 
session, but we do think we are effective in being able to 
find, fix, and when necessary, strike any potential threat to 
the Homeland.
    Senator Ernst. It has been reported that the Emirates won't 
accept the President's phone calls. Are you able to visit with 
your counterparts in the U.A.E.?
    General Milley. I have not had any issue contacting 
counterparts in the Middle East.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you for continuing the conversation 
with them. It is important that we maintain relationships 
through the Middle East, so I do appreciate that.
    With the administration continuing the negotiation of the 
Iranian nuclear deal and then pair that with the reduced 
footprint that we have in the Middle East, is that driving some 
of the Gulf States' neutrality when it comes to the Russian-
Ukrainian conflict, your opinion?
    General Milley. I actually don't know. I would have to ask 
them point-blank. I haven't asked those questions point-blank 
to them. I think they probably, I don't know, I would be 
speculating, so I would have to get back to you on that.
    Senator Ernst. Oh, okay. No, I appreciate that.
    Then just very briefly, as well, we haven't talked about 
this today, but it is something that is on my mind, and that is 
recruiting for our military. We have found that Americans 
between the age of 17 to 24, only 29 percent of them would even 
be eligible to enlist.
    Just very briefly, thoughts on that?
    General Milley. That is, you are about right, 29 percent 
are eligible to meet the standards: medical, educational, 
discipline, legal, all that. Even less than that have a 
propensity, it is less than 5 percent that have a propensity to 
serve. We know that part of that is because of COVID. We know 
that propensity to serve goes up once you make contact.
    So, contact, personal contact with individuals out there in 
the recruiting regions, that is the key to propensity to serve. 
So, it is a tough recruiting environment right now, and as you 
know, I think the Army is a little bit behind. The Navy, 
Marines, and Air Force are all meeting their marks. We are only 
4 months into the year and that will get adjusted as high 
schools graduate in the summer. I think at the end of the year, 
the Army is projected to come in a point or two below the 100 
percent.
    The other services are going to be at 100 percent.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you.
    Thank you, Gentlemen.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Warren, please?
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    So, in the new budget, the Pentagon is asking for a lot of 
money: $773 billion. But some lawmakers say this is too low and 
last week they proposed adding as much as ninety to $100 
billion more. The claim is that the extra money is needed 
because of inflation.
    Now, there is no question that inflation is raising costs 
across the country, but we have also seen big companies taking 
advantage of inflation to jack up prices and to pad their 
profit margins. That is a particular problem in industries with 
lots of consolidation.
    The defense industry, which had 51 major companies 
competing for defense contracts 30 years ago, today, has five. 
That is concentration.
    Price gouging by defense contractors has been a big problem 
for a long time. Inspector General reports have found that 
defense contractors charge DOD $71 for a pen that should have 
cost less than a nickel and $80 for a drainpipe segment that 
should have cost $1.41, and CEOs are already investing to their 
investors that profits will be even higher this year. That kind 
of profiteering wastes taxpayer dollars and it hurts military 
readiness.
    Secretary Austin, let me ask you, under our budget, 
obviously, you have to account, we have to account for cases 
where suppliers are increasing prices to cover higher costs 
elsewhere in the supply chain. We understand that. But these 
companies are doing very well for themselves.
    Should taxpayers be expected to subsidize higher profits 
for contractors that are using inflation as a cover to raise 
their prices above and beyond what is justified by an increase 
in expenses?
    Secretary Austin. The short answer, Senator, is no, and you 
have any commitment and the commitment of my entire team that 
we are going to do everything within our power to make sure 
that we are managing contracts and monitoring behavior so that 
we enable the people of the United States of America to get 
best value for its investments.
    Senator Warren. Good. I very much appreciate that, 
Secretary Austin.
    You know, one of the things that defense contractors love 
to do when they are flush with extra cash, courtesy of the 
taxpayers, is to goose their stock prices. The Pentagon's top 
contractors spent $15.5 billion on net buybacks last year, 
sending their stock prices zooming. That is the most of any 
year on record ever.
    But it is not just members of Congress who are using 
inflation as an excuse to ask for more money from the Pentagon. 
I was actually troubled to hear some Pentagon officials doing 
the same earlier this week.
    So, Secretary Austin, let me ask you directly: Are you 
comfortable with the figure in the President's proposed budget?
    Secretary Austin. I am comfortable, and here is why, 
Senator. I you may have heard me say earlier that we went 
through great pains to develop a National Defense Strategy and 
we knew that our budget would have to match that strategy. We 
went through great pains to make sure that was the case.
    This is a robust budget and I think it allows us to get the 
capabilities that we need to support our operational concepts.
    Senator Warren. Okay. You are good on this number, without 
adding another ninety or $100 billion to it?
    Secretary Austin. We certainly want to have the buying 
power to get the things that we need, but, yes, this is, this 
budget gives us what we need to get the operational 
capabilities.
    Senator Warren. I think that $773 billion for the Pentagon 
is already way too high, but the notion that we need to 
increase the total by another $100 billion or $400 billion 
every year just invites defense contractors to pick taxpayers' 
pockets.
    The American people are willing to pay to defend this 
country, but they are not going to sit still for being gouged 
by hugely profitable defense companies. I appreciate your help 
on this, Secretary Austin.
    I am almost out of time. But, Mr. McCord, I want to remind 
you that you owe this Committee a backlog of several years of 
reports on the European Deterrence Initiative.
    Do I have your word we are going to get that done soon?
    Secretary McCord. Yes, Senator. We will get those reports.
    Senator Warren. All right. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Sullivan, please?
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, thank you for your hard work. I know you have 
been burning the midnight oil. This Committee certainly 
appreciates it.
    I want to agree with Senator Fischer on the NDS and getting 
that out. I actually read the classified version.
    I think there is not much in it that is classified, 
actually. I think you could get that out publicly pretty soon, 
you know, maybe remove a certain element to it, but I think 
that would be important.
    I was struck by pretty much everybody here, the Chairman, 
all of you gentlemen talking about how dire the global security 
challenges are, great power conflict increasing, more likely.
    General Milley, you said the greatest to global peace and 
security in your lifetime right now.
    So, clearly, national security threats have increased since 
the last time you were here a year ago, isn't that correct, Mr. 
Secretary? General Milley?
    Secretary Austin. Well, certainly, you know, we have been 
focused on our pacing challenge of China.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes.
    Secretary Austin. Russia is an acute threat and, right----
    Senator Sullivan. But I mean, I don't want to be rude, but 
since you testified last year, your testimony today, both of 
yours with last year's, the security threat has been 
significantly heightened and that is what you have both just 
said, correct?
    Secretary Austin. Tensions are certainly heightened, that's 
right.
    Senator Sullivan. General Milley?
    Well, you already said it, so----
    General Milley. That is correct.
    Senator Sullivan. So, here is the thing on that. I am 
actually stunned that the President put forward another budget 
that actually calls for real defense cuts. A 4 percent increase 
with 8 percent inflation is a 4 percent real inflation adjusted 
budget.
    I think it is irresponsible. I think it is dangerous. When 
you look at shrinking the Navy, shrinking the Air Force, there 
is no doubt in my mind that that gives our enemies comfort and 
I think that this budget doesn't align with your statements 
about the severity of the national security challenges we face 
right now.
    What is likely to happen, and it is sad, is that once 
again, we are going to have to push the President to increase 
the budget in a bipartisan way, the way we did it last year. It 
is sad.
    The Commander-in-Chief can't reject some of his far left 
members and say, we need a robust budget. We put forward a 
budget that cuts defense spending, so I am going to have 
problems with that.
    General Milley, I want to compliment you on your speech. I 
think it was in 2016, you gave a really prophetic, in my view, 
speech on Putin and the threat he brings forward, and you were 
all criticized for that speech, I remember, but I think if you 
re-read the speech, you were right on with what was happening.
    But you are seeing, here, I think there is a source of 
bipartisan frustration to what is happening. I know you have 
been working hard on Ukraine, but I think when the intel 
committees were briefing us prior to the invasion, they got it 
right and so did all of you, what was going to happen.
    Then there was this notion that, and we were all briefed on 
it, that they were going to lose, the Ukrainians, within 7 to 
10 days. That was the uniform briefing: they are going to get 
crushed.
    Okay. They got that wrong. A lot of people got that wrong.
    I think the shift that we need to do now is to Senator 
Blumenthal, Senator Cotton, Senator Ernst, to strategically 
think about victory. Again, General Milley, I know you are 
working this hard, but when you have to talk about key 
objectives, number one, don't engage Russia with a conflict, 
keep NATO cohesion, support the Ukrainian people as the key 
objectives, doesn't it make sense to have as our number one 
objective, imposing a strategic defeat on Putin that we have 
the opportunity to do right now in align with what you said.
    I think that is a source of frustration for a lot of 
senators. We are not hearing that language.
    General Milley. I mean, I think, well, I have heard that 
language many times, actually.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, I mean, you just listed the three 
objectives.
    General Milley. I did.
    Senator Sullivan. Those were the, to be honest, they were 
all defensive-sounding.
    General Milley. Yes.
    Senator Sullivan. Here is what we won't do. Here is what we 
won't do.
    General Milley. Right.
    Senator Sullivan. Here is what we will do.
    But what about, we are at a big moment. This is bigger than 
Ukraine. What about----
    General Milley. If I may?
    Senator Sullivan. Yes, sir, go ahead.
    General Milley. At the national level, the President has 
said to us, at large, the national security team, to impose 
severe costs and do not let Putin win to ensure that Ukraine--
--
    Senator Sullivan. I would respectfully recommend you put 
that as your number one objective. You didn't even mention that 
in your three objectives.
    General Milley. Right. But those severe costs are being 
done by other elements, not the U.S. uniform military. That is 
why, the United States uniform military has a different task 
here, which is to ensure, deter our NATO allies to prevent war 
expanding and escalating, to ensure that Ukraine gets the means 
that are necessary in order to defend itself so it can remain 
free and sovereign, and then also to continue to maintain the 
cohesion of NATO. Those are the uniform military tasks. We are 
not talking about a broad, but just the uniform military tasks.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me--I have one question, Mr. 
Chairman, and it will be quick, just one final one.
    There are press reports that the JCPOA consideration, one 
of the big redline debates right now is for us to agree, us, 
the United States, the to delist the RGC as an organization 
that sponsors terrorism. The Iranians want it.
    You gentlemen, unfortunately, have led troops, some of our 
finest, over 2,000 wounded and killed by the Quds Force Islamic 
Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) with the weapons they supplied 
to Iraqi militias. I am sure hundreds under your command were 
killed or wounded. The IRGC has recently been responsible for 
missile attacks in coordination with the Houthis against U.A.E. 
civilians, our longstanding ally in the region, U.A.E.
    Is there any universe in which the two of you could say you 
support the delisting of this terrorist organization with blood 
of American soldiers on its hands, recently, and delist them as 
state sponsor of terrorism because Iran wants it?
    We should tell Iran to go pound sand. There is no way in 
hell that they shouldn't be delisted. What do you two in your 
personal opinion, given how much experience you have with Iran 
in the Middle East, believe on that question?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, respectfully, I won't comment on 
negotiations that are ongoing and speculate on what my advice 
to the President is going to be. So, I will----
    Senator Sullivan. In your personal opinion, we have asked 
you before that you can give us that, even though it might 
conflict with the administration's view. That is what you 
committed to do with this Committee, so I would ask you, again, 
both of you, your personal opinion.
    Secretary Austin. My answer remains unchanged, Senator. 
Thank you.
    Senator Sullivan. General Milley, you have been asked in 
your personal opinion.
    General Milley. Yes, Senator, just for clarity, political 
appointees are different than me. I have to sign a document 
that requires me to give you----
    Senator Sullivan. You are right, and I am sorry, Mr. 
Secretary, I didn't mean you. I meant General Milley.
    General Milley. So, in my personal opinion, I believe the 
IRGC Quds Force to be a terrorist organization and I do not 
support them being delisted from the foreign terrorist 
organization.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you for your honesty.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Thank you very 
much.
    Senator King, please?
    Senator King. Thank you.
    A series of fairly detailed questions. Mr. McCord, you 
haven't had much fun this morning, so I want to try to get you 
into this discussion.
    The Ukrainian aid that we have supplied thus far and we are 
planning to supply and will undoubtedly supply more in the 
future, where does that fit into the defense budget? We don't 
have OCO anymore. Is this coming out of the current defense 
budget? Are they extra budgetary appropriations?
    Secretary McCord. Senator, the aid that the Secretary has 
been talked about this morning, the Javelins, the Stingers, the 
body armor, all those things have come out of the funding that 
was provided in the supplemental attach to the omnibus funding 
bill that was enacted----
    Senator King. So, it is not, and there will be a 
replenishment as well. We are going to have to replenish stocks 
that we are supplying and also replenishment to some of our 
NATO allies.
    Will that come out of the future defense budget? I am not--
this is isn't an argumentative question, I am legitimately 
curious.
    Secretary McCord. No, you are correct, Senator.
    The funding to replenish, part of that supplemental $3 and 
a half billion of that supplemental was funds to replenish the 
drawdown materials provided to Ukraine. The first tranche of 
that was notified to the Committee, I believe, last Friday. A 
billion and a half of those funds will start flowing, but it is 
not part of the normal defense budget build to exercise 
drawdown authority at this level.
    So, if we are going to continue, that might be something we 
need to look at going forward.
    Senator King. Two other questions. I think you testified 
you wrestled with inflation as you were preparing the budget. I 
think you said that the general CPI rate of inflation doesn't 
necessarily apply to the things that you buy; is that correct? 
So, it is not accurate to say if we have 7 percent inflation, 
the military, and the military budget doesn't have 7 percent 
increase, then it is a cut.
    Please explain the inflation as it applies to the military 
budget.
    Secretary McCord. That is correct. About 60 to 65 percent 
of our budget is buying goods and services from our industrial 
base and about 25, 30 percent goes to military pay, and then we 
have a couple other if factors like fuel.
    We have different inflation rates that are applied to each 
of them, but by and large, a GDP deflator is the most accurate 
description of what we buy. That went up 4 percent last year, 
not 7 percent. That is the point that I was making.
    Senator King. A quick other question for you.
    How are we doing on the audit? That has been something that 
has been going on as long as I have been on this Committee. Are 
we making progress to getting toward a clean audit?
    Secretary McCord. Senator, we are making progress, but the 
progress is not where it needs to be. The Secretary has been 
clear with me on that. The progress we made last year was not 
where it needed to be and there was a couple of reasons for 
that, from the gaps in a transition year to COVID.
    We have been making some progress that is a bit below the 
radar screen. It has not yet translated to the pass-fail grades 
that are the heart of an audit. We do need to redouble our 
efforts and Secretary----
    Senator King. Well, I would appreciate it.
    The prior administration made some progress on that and I 
hope that that momentum won't be lost. This is a responsibility 
that we have to the American people.
    Secretary Austin, there are several wars going on right 
now. One is in Ukraine, but one of them is also within the 
United States where about, I think 100,000 people died of 
overdose deaths last year. That is an attack on our country.
    My concern is, when we had SOUTHCOM in here, they don't 
have, they have 1 percent of the intelligence, surveillance, 
and reconnaissance (ISR) resources worldwide and they don't 
have adequate resources to interdict those shipments by sea 
that we know about through our limited ISR.
    I would hope that you would pay some attention to that, to 
add to your attention to that, and also to think about setting 
this up in some way that there is somebody in charge.
    My worry is you have got Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), you 
have got the Coast Guard, you have partners, you have the CIA, 
and you have the Defense Department and nobody is in charge, 
and the result is two people a day in my state are dying. I 
understand we have to work on the demand side, but it is very 
frustrating when I have testimony year after year that we are 
only interdicting 25 percent of the shipments that we know 
about. That is inexcusable.
    Mr. Secretary, I hope you will recommit to this war.
    Secretary Austin. Two things, Senator. We will certainly 
make sure that SOUTHCOM Commander has what she needs to be 
effective in these efforts and, you know, I have discussed this 
with her before, but clearly, you know, the limiting factor is 
ISR. We will work with her to make sure that, where possible, 
we get her more capability.
    Senator King. Well, let's put it in the budget and buy 
more. I mean, ISR in a function of how many devices you have 
and it seems to me that is an engineering problem and we should 
be able to solve that.
    I am out of time, but Mr. Secretary, I want to commend you 
on the significant both in the R&D budget. I think that is an 
enormously important area and, frankly, it is an area where we 
have fallen behind. Hypersonics and directed energy are two 
areas that are strategic game changers that, frankly, I think 
our country is behind, and so the additional resources into R&D 
is absolutely critical. Wars often turn on the utilization of 
new technology. The English at the Battle of Agincourt with 
one-third of the French Army, won that battle because the 
radical utilization of the long bow. That changed warfare in 
1450 and it is technology that is going to win the next war.
    Again, I want to commend you for the commitment to R&D, and 
standfast on that. I don't think there is a more expenditure in 
the budget.
    Senator King. [Presiding.] Senator Cramer?
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Senator.
    Thank you both for being here and for your service.
    Mr. Secretary, last month, your deputy said that the 
Department, as directed by President Biden, aims to reach net-
zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. Then, she said, she 
mentioned the danger posed by China, illegal Russian aggression 
in Europe, persistent threats from Iran, North Korea, and other 
state actors. You both, and others that work with and under 
you, consistently and appropriately referenced the importance 
of modernization, lethality, readiness, obviously.
    My question is, do you think China, Russia, Iran, and North 
Korea are going to be slowed in their military development by 
climate-change concerns?
    Secretary Austin. I don't believe so and I don't believe we 
will either, Senator.
    Senator Cramer. Do you know if they have plans to reach 
net-zero, any of them?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, I, again, I have asked you for 
$773 billion to support the capabilities that we think we need 
and I certainly appreciate what you have done for us in the 
past, but I think there is also things that we can and should 
be doing to address the climate issue, as well.
    It affects our installations. It causes problems that cause 
mass migration and other things in the areas that we operate in 
and our forces are committed to fighting wildfires and helping 
in the aftermath of severe storms on an increasing basis.
    So, I don't think this is a thing that we can discount and 
I think the Defense Department has to do its part.
    Senator Cramer. I appreciate that.
    FRankly, I hope that we can give you a lot more than you 
have asked for to actually do those things, Mr. Secretary. But 
as you are talking with me, I am imagining the calculation that 
would measure the negative impact of say, our failure to deter 
the Russian invasion of Ukraine; in other words, I appreciate 
that you have this concern, but I also hope we can keep the 
main thing the main thing, because just like more energy 
development in the United States and providing that energy to 
our allies actually brings down greenhouse gas emissions, I 
think deterring the same polluters that have benefited from a 
lower standard than ours would also do the same.
    We want to make sure that you have the resources to do 
exactly what you need to do to get--to accomplish all of those 
good goals.
    General Milley, maybe I can just ask you. I noticed you 
don't mention it much; in fact, you didn't at all. The 
Secretary mentioned climate change five times in his written 
opening comments. It is referenced in the National Defense 
Strategy, sort of highlighted. We will see if it is in the 
national military strategy when you provide that.
    But do you think climate change is a military objective 
that the Department should be focused on tackling?
    General Milley. It is a Departmental objective.
    For the military, though, for the uniform military, it is a 
condition under which we will operate and it is something that 
we will have to took into consideration in the conduct of our 
operations, for sure, because you know, if you look at Lake 
Chad as just one example, if you look at a picture in 1950 and 
look at Lake Chad and look at it today, well, the reason that 
there is a lot of instability in that particular region is 
because there is no water and there are a lot of resource 
struggles going on.
    So, climate change has an impact on military operations for 
sure, and it is going to be a predictor for where likely 
instability will occur in the future. So, it is a condition 
under which we operate, as opposed to something that we can 
fix.
    Senator Cramer. Mr. Secretary, I want to talk a little bit 
about the fear of escalation. That is, we hear that a lot. It 
seems that many times the fear of escalating the situation in 
Russia depends on us and a lot less on Volodymyr Putin, and I 
just think we have made too many, my personal view is we have 
made too many decisions based on how we think Volodymyr Putin 
would respond to this situation, things like limiting the kind 
of help we would provide Ukraine, how quickly we would provide 
that help, postponing and then canceling a Minuteman test that 
was scheduled, a Minuteman-III test and not facilitating the 
transfer of MiGs, just a few of the examples.
    Do you have any evidence that Volodymyr Putin is ever 
worried that his massacre of women and children civilians would 
escalatory?
    Secretary Austin. You know, I don't know what is in the 
mind of Volodymyr Putin and a lot of other people don't either, 
Senator.
    You use the word ``fear'' and Putin in the same sentence 
and I just want to point out that my job, one of my key 
responsibilities is to manage escalation and make sure that we 
don't find ourselves in a nuclear contest in that is avoidable.
    Again, there is nothing about Mr. Putin that we fear, and 
you see the kinds of things that we have done in rapidly 
deploying combat power to Europe and the eastern flank. What we 
have done, and continue to do, is provide assistance to 
Ukraine.
    You know, not a military issue, but the sanctions that we 
have imposed on Mr. Putin are going to have a significant 
impact on his economy for years to come.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Senator Rosen, please?
    Senator Rosen. Oh, there it is. Thank you, Chairman Reed, 
Ranking Member Inhofe, and thank you all for your service and 
for being here. Again, we appreciate how accessible you are to 
this Committee and others.
    General Milley, last month, I traveled to Poland and 
Germany as part of a bipartisan codel led by Senator Ernst, 
several other members of this Committee on the codel. We had 
the privilege of meeting the United States forces, receiving 
briefings from commanders on the situation in Ukraine, seeing 
firsthand, the security assistance and training NATO is 
providing the Ukrainians.
    This trip: horrific. Horrific is too light of a word, I 
guess, to use, but the horrific images of the Russian war 
crimes we have seen since, it really underscores for me that we 
can and we must do more to support Ukraine, defeat Volodymyr 
Putin, and defeat what he is doing.
    So, President Zelenskyy continues to ask for greater 
American support to close the skies, allow Ukraine to defend 
itself. I do understand the arguments as to why the MiG-29, 
specifically, might not make sense for Ukrainians' defensive 
battle, but is there another aircraft they could fly that could 
be impactful, something else that could provide close support?
    I understand we are not in the classified setting. Are 
there other forms of lethal assistance you could talk about 
here that might help Ukrainians defend themselves against this 
brutality?
    General Milley. The most effective is that, which we have 
been providing, which is air defense systems. So, the Russian 
Air Force has not even today established air superiority, let 
alone, air supremacy, which is one of the reasons why they have 
having great difficulty on the ground. So, the air superiority 
mission has not been achieved.
    Why is that? It is because of the survival of the air 
defense systems, both, the--that we have been providing 
Stingers and the like from other NATO countries, plus the 
longer-range SAMs that have been provided and that they already 
had. So, that system has denied the airspace, effective use of 
the airspace to the Russian military.
    Now, that is not to say Russian air is not getting through. 
They are on occasion, but for the most part, they are not being 
very effective, the Russian Air Force, and that is the reason, 
is because of the air defense.
    So, the best method right now, and the Ukrainians, I have 
talked to my Ukrainian counterpart every couple of days, they 
are very, very thankful, extraordinarily thankful on the 60,000 
anti-tank weapons, which is the second system that is really 
effective and the 25,000 anti-aircraft weapons systems that 
have been sent by the United States and our allies and 
partners.
    So, those are the two weapon systems that have proven most 
effective and the one for the air, in particular, the best way 
to deny the Soviets--or the Soviets--the airspace is through 
the air defense systems and that is what they are using.
    Senator Rosen. Well, given the heavy losses that the 
Russian military has suffered in the Ukraine, we know they are 
repositioning. Like you said, we are doing a good job. We are 
getting them the lethal support that they need.
    How do you assess their ability as they are repositioning 
and trying to resupply their forces----
    General Milley. The Russian ability?
    Senator Rosen. The Russian ability in their attack on 
Eastern Ukraine as they begin to reposition themselves more 
down towards the Donbas.
    General Milley. The Russians have been struggling with 
their logistical resupplying: fuel, ammunition, food, also med 
evac, et cetera, they have been having a very, very difficult 
time. Part of that is because the lines of communications that 
they have, the ground lines of communications are at risk to 
dismounted and mounted Ukrainian Forces that are conducting 
ambushes along those lines of communications. So, they have 
really had a difficult time with logistics.
    Senator Rosen. Well, and so, on the other side of that, we 
know if they are repositioning, the Ukrainian military and 
ground forces there have to reposition as well. So, looking 
ahead, do you think the Ukrainians have the right equipment and 
logistics in place to defend against this repositioning that 
Russia is, seems to be doing?
    General Milley. They are asking for, and they could 
probably use additional armor and artillery, and we are looking 
around through allies and partners to get those types of weapon 
systems that require no training.
    Of course, we have armor artillery, but it is not the kind 
that they have used before and it would require months of 
training to get them into a U.S. system. So, we are looking 
around, along with other countries and NATO, to help them out 
in terms of building them up for armor and artillery.
    The fighting down in the Southeast, the terrain is 
different than it is in the north; it is much more open and 
lends itself to armor, mechanized offensive operations on both 
sides. So, those are the systems that they are looking for and 
that is what people are trying to help them out with.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you.
    I want to submit my next questions for the record, but they 
are really important. They will be for Secretary Austin and 
Under Secretary McCord. It is about housing for our junior 
enlisted troops. They are not able to receive their base 
allowance for housing, they are transitioning, the cost of 
housing is expensive, they are not getting reimbursed in the 
way they should be. We also have issues for those on Creech 
that have to travel a far way to go to Las Vegas and go to 
work, and so I am going to submit those for the record.
    I see my time is up and I will look forward to speaking 
with you about that.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Tuberville, please?
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you very much.
    Thank you for being here today, Secretary.
    General Milley, good to see you last week. I thought that 
was a great change of command down in CENTCOM.
    Secretary Austin, as we all know in the near future, we are 
going to get the Inspector General (IG) report on Space Command 
hopefully moving to Huntsville. The Redstone Arsenal, we have 
got a lot of great comments from you and Acting Secretary of 
the Air Force, Secretary of the Air Force Frank Kendall and, of 
course, General James Dickinson. All positive comments.
    The IG report will come out in the future.
    Any thoughts about the future?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, Senator.
    As you know, I will never comment on an IG, on a subject 
that is under IG scrutiny. So, when that report comes out, we 
will make sure that we get, analyze it as quickly as possible 
and take on the recommendations.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    General Milley, last year's NDAA 2022, we got a jump-start 
on the Aegis system in Guam. Hopefully, we can continue that in 
the next few years. It is going to take a while to get that 
done on a land base, which I think all of us agree we need. 
Then we have an Iron Dome there. You know, that is, to me, 
after visiting Guam a few months ago, that would be kind of 
like swatting flies.
    What do you think in the near future, we could do with that 
Iron Dome?
    General Milley. Well, the Iron Dome is a very effective 
system, but let me just take a step back for the ballistic 
missile defense in the Pacific region, and Senator Hirono had 
asked about that earlier.
    It is a layered system that starts, literally, over in 
Japan and comes through the entire Pacific and includes radars 
and various missile systems that are arrayed throughout to 
include Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, et cetera. Specifically, to the 
Iron Dome, is it a great system and it is a very accurate 
system and it has a very good track record, and there is all 
kinds of utility for it in a wide variety of environments. So, 
I am a big fan of the Iron Dome.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    Secretary Austin, extremely concerned about the situation 
at the southwest border. According to the latest data, the 
Border Patrol has encountered more than 150,000 illegal 
immigrants a month for at least the past 12 months and it is 
estimated that at least 500 illegal immigrants that evaded the 
border just recently.
    I am especially concerned about the trafficking of drugs, 
fentanyl, and the new drug most people haven't heard of called 
another called ``ISO,'' which is 20 times more lethal than 
fentanyl coming across the border. The New York Post reported 
yesterday that you approved DHS' [Department of Homeland 
Security's] request for additional DOD at the border; is that 
accurate?
    Secretary Austin. DHS did submit a request for our support 
and as we have done in the past, we--I approved the request. 
We, again, DHS is a lead federal agency in this endeavor. We 
provide enabling support to DHS when and where we can and where 
legally possible.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. It is obvious that we need help, 
especially if we do away with Title 42, which it looks like it 
is coming.
    Have you done any assessment of, or has the secretary given 
you any assessment of about how many we would need down there 
if we did do something in your purview?
    Secretary Austin. Secretary Mayorkas, obviously, Senator, 
will work up his requirements and his assessments and provide 
those to the President and, you know, he certainly has not 
provided that assessment to me.
    Senator Tuberville. Has he talked to you about it, you 
know, maybe in the future?
    Secretary Austin. Not about future requirements. He has 
only talked to me about current requirements.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, okay.
    I want to pick up where Senator Ernst was at the end of her 
questioning, and anybody can answer this, but you know, we are 
going to spend all this money on all this great equipment and 
we are all good with that, but it takes people to do that, and 
you all know that.
    I would love to see a better recruiting effort of spending 
some money, because we are fighting big tech. We are fighting a 
lot of areas now. Being an all-volunteer army, I think we have 
got to put a larger foot forward in getting the best and the 
brightest young men and women in whatever part of our military, 
and I think it is going to be one of the most important things 
we do. We can't fight a war or have a deterrent unless people 
really understand we have got a fighting force that really is 
sold out on this country and wants to lay their life on the 
line.
    Just your thoughts, both of your all's thoughts on that 
real quick.
    Secretary Austin. I absolutely agree with you, sir. We need 
to continue to invest in the quality of our force. That is 
exactly what you have heard come from our Army leadership, the 
Secretary and the Chief, and it is what you will hear coming 
from all of our Secretaries. It is what--what we need, what has 
made us dominant and the best force in the world, and what we 
will need, going forward, to continue to be the best force in 
the world.
    General Milley. I just want to assure you and everyone that 
is listening, that we have tremendous standards and we have 
tremendous people in uniform today.
    As we go forward, we have to take into account the future 
operating environment, the change in the character of war.
    So, our recruiting does need to be adjusted. We need to up 
our game. We are going to have to look at, in some cases, look 
at different recruiting bases in order to get people for cyber 
and space and some of the other high-tech things, because we 
are moving into, literally, a different era in warfare and we 
are going to have to adjust our recruiting to match that 
future.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you for your service.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Kelly, please?
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you to all of you for being here today.
    Secretary Austin, I want to discuss PFAS contamination near 
military facilities. This is a big challenge in Arizona. Both, 
the Phoenix and Tucson areas have growing PFAS plumes in the 
groundwater aquifers and as we face worsening drought 
conditions along the Colorado River, the groundwater, so 
groundwater will become a more important source of drinking 
water for our communities, including our military 
installations.
    The Department of Defense has remedial investigations into 
PFAS contamination in aquifers near both, Luke Air Force Base 
and Davis Monthan Air Force Base. While, I understand that 
these investigations can take time and rely on scarce 
resources, affected communities that can't move forward on 
permanent solutions with DOD until these investigations have 
concluded.
    With conditions on the Colorado River degrading rapidly, I 
mean, we are in a 1200-year drought, or the worst drought in 
1200 years and this one we are in has been going on for 20 
years; it is significant. I am worried that we may need to rely 
on these groundwater aquifer sources as sources of drinking 
water, instead of getting all of our drinking water off of the 
river.
    So, Mr. Secretary, as the Department makes determinations 
about which remedial investigations to prioritize, how is it 
accounting for the needs of communities in regions that have a 
prolonged drought and because of that, has a higher likelihood 
of a future need of using the groundwater?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Senator.
    I would just like to emphasize to you that the health and 
welfare of our troops, our families, and the people in the 
community are very, very important to me and I, and, certainly, 
we will continue to focus on getting these assessments done and 
work with the appropriate regulatory agencies to make sure that 
we are doing the right things and we will move out as quickly 
as possible.
    In terms of, you know, where we go, how we go forward, I 
think what you have raised is an important issue. If you are 
dependent upon that ground source of water, then that needs to 
go into the equation there in terms of what we address first 
and that--we are going to comply with the regulations, you 
know, work with the regulatory commissions, but certainly take 
into account the things that you just raised.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you.
    The fiscal year 2022 NDAA requires that DOD produce a 
schedule. So, it would be really appreciated if you could 
consider the drought situation as that schedule is being 
developed.
    Secretary Austin, I also have a question on TRICARE 
eligibility in our remaining time here. With a 4.6 percent 
increase in pay and increases in basic needs and DHS housing 
allowance that I pushed for, this budget goes a long way to 
addressing the needs of our servicemembers.
    This builds on the work that the Department and Congress 
did last year in addressing suicide and sexual assault in the 
military. I commend your attention on these issues, however, I 
want to address one other disparity in the military when it 
comes to pay and benefits and that relate to healthcare.
    I am concerned about the fact that military families don't 
have the same healthcare coverage that Americans enjoy, and 
what I am getting at is one specific thing. I introduced some 
bipartisan legislation on this to bring TRICARE plans in line 
with private insurance plans.
    My bill, the Healthcare Fairness for Military Families Act 
would allow the children of servicemembers to stay on their 
parents' insurance until they are 26. That exists in civilian 
life. It does not exist currently under TRICARE.
    So, Mr. Secretary, can I get your commitment that you will 
work with my office and this Committee on efforts to bring 
TRICARE in line with private insurance plans?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, Senator, you can.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you.
    I yield back the remainder of my time.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Hawley, please?
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for being here.
    General Milley, let me start with you, if I could.
    Following Russia's first invasion of Ukraine back in 2014, 
Congress stood up the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, 
which I hope has been of some help the Ukrainians in the lead-
up to this most recent invasion. I want to ask you about that, 
what we can draw from that, with regard to Taiwan and over in 
PACOM.
    If Congress were to enact a similar funding mechanism for 
Taiwan, do you think that would help strengthen Taiwan's 
ability to defend itself against a potential invasion by China?
    General Milley. I do, yes.
    Senator Hawley. From a military perspective, is it fair to 
say that strengthening Taiwan's defenses would help bolster 
deterrence against China, number one, but also reduce the 
operational risk to American forces, who might be called upon 
to help Taiwan in the event of an invasion?
    General Milley. Absolutely, yes.
    Senator Hawley. This is, I agree with you and thank you for 
those comments, this is why I think it is important to take 
that action right now and not to wait and get behind the 8 
ball. I introduced the Arm Taiwan Act, which would establish 
the Taiwan Security Assistance Initiative, modeled on what we 
did in Ukraine those years ago and I think, I hope the 
Committee will take it up. I think it is an important 
initiative.
    Mr. Secretary, if I could switch to you, Secretary Austin. 
The Assistant Secretary for Defense Mara Karlin wrote, prior to 
her confirmation, I am going to quote her here so I get it 
right, that deterrence by denial should be prioritized when it 
comes to China and Taiwan, in particular, and she went on, 
deterrence by cost imposition can complement, but shouldn't 
supplant deterrence by denial when it comes to deterring China.
    Assistant Secretary of Defense Eli Ratner had said 
something similar. He told the Committee, with China as the 
pacing challenge, the Taiwan is the pacing scenario and that is 
driven by a strategy of denial.
    Okay. With that setup, here is my question to you. When it 
comes to the 2022 NDS and the NDS priorities, can you--and I am 
aware we are in an unclassified setting here--but could you, 
can you tell us that we will see in the unclassified summary of 
the NDS, a commitment to deterrence by denial, especially when 
it comes to China and Taiwan?
    Secretary Austin. Our defense strategy accounts for the 
things that you just highlighted, Senator, which is why both of 
my Assistant Secretaries have highlighted that.
    But, yes, that is in the strategy and we will make sure 
that the, you know, our unclassified version of the strategy 
appropriately reflects what is in the strategy.
    Senator Hawley. Good. So, just to make sure I understand, 
when you say it is in the strategy, you mean deterring----
    Secretary Austin. It is accounted for in the strategy.
    Senator Hawley.--deterring by denial, deterrence by denial, 
when it comes to China and Taiwan is in the strategy. Have I 
got that right?
    Secretary Austin. That is right.
    Then I can entertain your other questions in the classified 
setting.
    Senator Hawley. Great. Fair enough.
    But just to close the loop on this, you said we would see 
that reflected in the unclassified summary when that is made 
available?
    Secretary Austin. What I said was you will see the 
unclassified summary reflect what is in the classified summary.
    Senator Hawley. Okay.
    Secretary Austin. We need to be mindful of what is 
transportable, what we can move to the unclassified section.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. Good.
    Just staying on the same here, Assistant Secretary Ratner 
has also testified that Taiwan is the pacing scenario. I think 
you have testified to that effect, Mr. Secretary, I think. I 
know that General Milley has.
    Secretary Austin. I said that China was the pacing 
challenge.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. Great.
    I think General Milley had said that the Taiwan scenario, 
the fait accompli scenario was the pacing scenario. If I am 
wrong about that, General, I don't want to put words in your 
mouth, you correct me.
    I know that Dr. Ratner has, so let's stick on that.
    General Milley. I said that before.
    Senator Hawley. Go ahead, General.
    General Milley. I have said that before, and that is the 
scenario, that is one of the scenarios that we use for force 
development and so on and so forth----
    Senator Hawley. Thank you.
    General Milley.--but it is clearly the most important one.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you.
    So, here is my question, then, to you, Mr. Secretary. Will 
we see that, the Taiwan scenario, the danger of a fait 
accompli, will we see that in the unclassified summary of the 
2022 NDS?
    Secretary Austin. Again, I will just say that the 
unclassified summary will reflect what is in the National 
Defense Strategy. In terms of specific wording, I won't commit 
to a specific wording at this point.
    Senator Hawley. Could you, could I get you to commit to 
this, would you echo what General Milley just said and that I 
assume your Assistant Secretaries reflect your views, but----
    Secretary Austin. That is exactly right; they do.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. So, could you tell me in your own 
words, though, Mr. Secretary, I mean, is it--let me ask you 
this way. I don't want to put the words in your mouth, so let 
me ask you, is it your view that the Taiwan fait accompli 
scenario is the pacing scenario, just as China is the pacing 
threat; is that fair to say?
    Secretary Austin. It is a pacing scenario and I would say 
that our policy, our China policy has not changed.
    Senator Hawley. My time has expired. I will have a few more 
follow-up questions and hopefully also in the classified 
setting.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Peters, please?
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, gentlemen, 
thank you for being here today.
    I understand that as part of the United States deterrence, 
the measures up to and after the invasion of Ukraine, there are 
now three United States armor brigades forward-deployed in 
Europe.
    That is the most since the early 2000s, when the United 
States made a strategic decision to permanently move its heavy 
armored forces out of Europe and bring them back to the United 
States.
    Recently, Army senior leaders have said that the strain on 
the Army's 11 active-duty armored brigades, ABCTs, is at a high 
point and noting that the rotational units basically need a 3:1 
rotation, a ratio to avoid excessive operational tempo and that 
11 active ABCTs falls short of a sustainable ratio.
    I also note that while Congress has consistently provided 
funding for at least one brigade of tanks each funding cycle, 
only three United States Army brigades have been fielded, the 
most modern Abrams tanks, including one brigade set in Army 
preposition stock in Germany, that is now being forward-
deployed to Poland.
    So, my question for you, Secretary Austin, do you think 
that we need more armored forces now than we did last year, as 
this budget was being developed both, in terms of those armored 
brigades forward-deployed to Europe and those which we could 
rotate worldwide?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Senator.
    I truly believe that we have what we need currently. As we 
figure out the future footprint in NATO, especially on the 
eastern flank, if we have additional requirements, then, 
certainly, we will come back and ask for additional resources.
    I would remind you that we have over 100,000 troops in 
either stationed in Europe or deployed to Europe or operating 
in Europe's waters and so we have a robust capability there 
now. We were able to do what we did recently, as you heard me 
say, Senator, because of what you did earlier, to provide us 
with the resources and European Deterrence Initiative (EDI). 
You saw that armored brigade combat team deploy rapidly from 
Fort Stewart, fall in on pre-positioned equipment, and then 
rapidly move to Germany. Again, that was all possible because 
of EDI. We have been able to train heel-to-toe along the 
Eastern flank because of the resources that you provided us, as 
well.
    So, as we do our analysis going forward, if we need 
additional resources, I will work with the Secretary of the 
Army and the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chairman, and come 
back and ask for more resources if we need them.
    Senator Peters. Great, thank you.
    General Milley, do you think the up tempo on the 11 ABCTs 
that we have will be sustainable over the long-term, given 
Russia's apparent expansionist goals in Europe?
    General Milley. Senator, I think that with 11, you know, 
the 3:1 ratio, you got three over there. 3:1 will get you nine, 
so you need armored brigades, plus we have one rotating back 
and forth to the fence line. So, I think it is about right, but 
I will go back to General McConville, the chief staff of the 
Army, to make sure that my analysis is correct and I will get 
you a better answer.
    If there is some sort of stress on the up tempo of the 
armored force, that hasn't been brought up to me yet, specific 
to this contingency.
    Now, long-haul, that depends on how long the long-haul is 
and that is not known right now. We are taking a look at that 
and we are going to adjust as we go here.
    Senator Peters. Right.
    General Milley. Thank you.
    Senator Peters. General Milley, the recently released 
National Defense Strategy describes China as, quote, our most 
consequential strategic competitor and the pacing challenge for 
the Department, end of quote. Certainly, the Department will 
have to bring the full might of our Joint Force to bear in 
order to compete with this challenge.
    Now INDOPACOM is a maritime domain, so certainly, the role 
of the Navy and the Marine Corps is very clear, as well as the 
Air Force and Space Force will also play a vital role.
    But I would like your thoughts as Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff and a decorated Army officer, I would like to 
hear your view as to the role of the Army in the Indo-Pacific.
    General Milley. The Army has a very important role in the 
Indo-Pacific, and, you know, just to go back to World War II, 
there was, I think, 15 or 20 divisions of the Army and Marines 
in the Indo-Pacific. Our largest land wars of the United States 
that we fought in the Indo-Pacific with Vietnam, Korea, and the 
World War II Pacific campaigns. So the ground forces have a 
very Gant role, but I would say that in any sort of future 
conflict, if there was one, hopefully, there will never be one 
with China, my estimate is that the maritime forces and the 
naval forces will be the predominate player but the military 
forces that are on the ground, Army special forces, Marine 
forces, and Army ground forces will be really significant, 
especially in areas like air defense, long-range fires, 
precision fires, and Special Operations.
    In addition to that, the amphibious forces of the Marines 
will be key. So, there is a very important, very significant 
role for ground forces in the Pacific, but the predominance 
will likely be maritime or Air Forces.
    Senator Peters. [Presiding.] Great. Thank you, General 
Milley.
    Senator Scott, you are recognized for your questions.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    I thank each of you for being here. I thank you for your 
hard work. I know this is a very, this is a tough time to 
serve. I mean, this is probably, in my lifetime, this is 
probably one of the most difficult times to serve with all of 
our enemies.
    I share the concerns of the ranking member and many of my 
colleagues in the Senate that President Biden's budget request 
does not reflect our current defense needs. After many years of 
underspending, we recently began to grow the defense budget in 
line with the threats we face, particularly, Communist China.
    So, just last year, we had to increase the President's 
Budget by more than $25 billion and for months now, we have 
been urging the administration to increase our defense spending 
so we can meet our modernization needs, deter and, if needed, 
defeat our enemies and overcome the impact of the terrible 
inflation this administration has caused with reckless 
spending.
    So, we are living in some of the most difficult times since 
the Cold War with Communist China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, 
reflecting their muscles, increasing their hostility to us and 
our allies, but you wouldn't know it, based on this budget 
request. So, to me, it is disappointing that the President 
didn't request a budget that would do a better job of putting 
us in a position that we can deter our enemies and make sure we 
take care of our servicemembers and their needs.
    I was disappointed the administration wants to decommission 
24 ships and weaken our Navy's power and capabilities. I know 
the administration has said this is enough.
    General Milley, I think you have previously stated that if 
you combine Communist China and Russia, that they spend more 
than the United States does now. Beijing just announced a 7.1 
percent increase for 2022 and I think you just testified to the 
House that this budget assumes an inflation rate of 2.2 
percent, but we all know it is 8 percent-plus right now.
    All the manufacturers I talk to, you know, are saying it is 
actually more than that. So, while inflations could go up and 
go down, this, I don't think the budget is clearly enough and 
it doesn't seem to me that you think it is enough.
    So, tell me, how does this happen? I mean, you seem pretty 
persuasive. So, how does this happen that we end up with a 
budget that doesn't stay up with inflation and doesn't do a lot 
more to deter our enemies, especially Communist China?
    General Milley. Well, let me say a couple of things.
    First, on the inflation piece, I would ask that Mr. McCord 
talk about the details and how they did the calculations, et 
cetera. But I fully support this budget.
    Seven hundred and seventy-three billion dollars is a lot of 
money and it is our duty, those of us in uniform, to make every 
cent of those dollars count and to deliver for the nation, a 
force that is capable of defending it.
    I think, as I said in my opening statement, we can do that 
on 773. Having said that, there is always elements of risk and 
there is always elements to mitigate, but we have to focus on 
the future. This budget does that. We have to focus on 
modernization. This budget does that.
    We put more money in research and development intentionally 
in this budget than has ever been done in any defense budget 
and we have to focus on the pacing threat of China with the 
acute threat, as we call it, with Russia.
    It is very significant. There are areas of risk. We 
recognize those areas of risk. But I do think that this budget 
will allow us to move forward and take the next steps towards 
protecting the United States.
    Senator Scott. Could I ask each of you, what, how 
comfortable are you that this budget is going to do enough to 
deter Communist China and why do you think, what in the budget, 
and what are the things that we are doing that you think are 
going to be the key things that are going to deter Communist 
China from trying to expand, first, I guess, would be into 
Taiwan?
    Do you want to start, Secretary Austin?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator.
    I think when we look at the challenge of China, we consider 
China to be a now and forever problem, in terms of a challenge. 
We want to invest in those things that help keep us ready, 
capable, and dominant today, but also recognizing that the 
challenge of China will evolve over time, investing now in 
those capabilities that will be relevant down the road, as 
well. So, you have seen us invest in technology in this budget. 
You have seen us invest in space capabilities, cyberspace, 
undersea capabilities. All those things are focused on not only 
the China set, but also provides us great capability, with 
respect to the acute threat that we are experiencing right now 
and that is Russia.
    General Milley. Senator, I would just add, with respect to 
deterring China and Taiwan, I think Senator Hawley hit it right 
on the head. The best defense of Taiwan is done by the 
Taiwanese. We can certainly help them. This is being done in 
Ukraine, for example, and I think there are a lot of lessons 
that are coming out of the Ukraine that China is taking very, 
very seriously.
    Crossing the Taiwan straits and conducting an amphibious 
and/or air assault on the island of Taiwan and the city of 
Taipei with the millions upon millions of people there, the 
mountainous terrain of Taiwan. Taiwan is a defensible island, 
we just need to help the Taiwanese defend it a little bit 
better and we can do that.
    But that is the best deterrent, is to make sure that 
deterrent by denial, to make sure that the Chinese know that if 
they were to attack Taiwan, it is a very, very difficult 
objective to take.
    Senator Scott. Thank you to each of you.
    I know this is a very difficult time. I mean, in my 
lifetime, I don't think we have ever had a threat like we have 
now with what Putin is doing and what Xi says he is going do, 
so thank you for what you are doing.
    Senator Duckworth. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Scott, 
and the chairman is still voting, so I get to recognize myself. 
Serving is truly a selfless act and I want to thank each of our 
witnesses for your service and commitment to our national 
security. That service comes with honor and strength, as well 
as pride and humility. These attributes make our military the 
most capable, most combat-credible force in the world. You 
already know this.
    But to ensure that this continues long into the future, we 
must take care of the military's most important assets: our 
people. Each of you have spoken to this.
    As leaders, we must remove barriers our military members 
face in supporting their families as well. This is an important 
readiness issue. Knowing that their family is safe and healthy 
relieves a burden on servicemembers so that they can better 
focus on the mission and, if necessary, fight for the safety of 
others.
    That is why I hope the Department will work with me to 
finally solve a critical issue facing our men and women in 
uniform, along with their families, and that is food 
insecurity. Advocacy groups that serve military families report 
an increased demand for support during the pandemic.
    Secretary Austin, I appreciate your leadership in issuing 
guidance to the DOD late last year to begin addressing military 
hunger challenges; however, despite your leadership, there 
appears to be a hesitation to fully engage on this pressing, 
readiness issue Department-wide.
    We are still hearing heartbreaking stories of less-senior 
members of the military struggling to pay their bills, to put 
good, quality food on the table for their families. They are 
still met, you know, these stories are still met in some 
quarters with skepticism and denial that the problem even 
exists.
    I think that is why it is vital that the DOD fulfills its 
statutory mandate under the fiscal year 2020 NDAA and provide 
Congress with a comprehensive report examining food and 
securities challenges experienced by servicemembers and 
military families.
    Secretary Austin, will you commit to me that you will 
deliver the DOD study on food and security in the military by 
the end of this month, and if you can't do it by the end of 
this month, when can you deliver it?
    Secretary Austin. We will deliver it as quickly as we 
possibly can.
    Senator, let me thank you for your leadership in that area. 
You know, I have really set out to tackle the issue of economic 
insecurity across the board. That is why you see the pay raise, 
the elevation of Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH), and some 
other things.
    Certainly, I appreciate the support that you are giving us 
and I know you will continue to give us, but we will move out 
and get you the report as quickly as possible.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    I have no question of the commitment of each of the 
witnesses here today to making sure that we address this issue. 
That has not been the problem.
    The issue that I have is that there is still resistance 
across the Department, and Secretary Austin, in fact, when you 
first addressed this issue last November, you tasked the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness to deliver a 
strategy and implementation roadmap to strengthen food security 
within the force.
    Would you commit to sharing that strategy and 
implementation roadmap with Congress once it is developed to 
help us better understand how DOD is addressed military hunger?
    Secretary Austin. I will, Senator. Thank you.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    Last year, I led the bipartisan effort to authorize a new 
basic needs allowance under fiscal year 2022 NDAA and I am 
encouraged that the services are planning to provide this new 
assistance in their annual budgets; however, questions still 
remain on how the Department will roll out this new allowance.
    For example, Secretary Austin, the final text includes a 
compromise that allows you to not count, so you have the 
discretion to not count BAH as income, when determining who is 
eligible to receive the basic needs allowance. Additionally, 
families are going to need to opt-in to this, so they must 
understand how to opt-in to the food allowance, which over the 
years, we have learned is often much easier said than done when 
it comes to program participation for anything you have to opt-
in for.
    Secretary Austin, what is the status of developing an 
implementing the basic needs allowance and can you share 
actions that the Department intends to take to ensure that all 
servicemembers are made aware of this new support and 
encouraged to apply, if eligible?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. As you may know, we are still 
working our way through this, but I will tell you, Senator, 
that I am predisposed to making sure that we provide as many 
benefits to our troops and our family members as possible.
    As we work our way through this, we are going to make sure 
that it is streamlined so that it is easy for people to 
understand what they need to do to qualify and we are going to, 
again, I am predisposed to making sure that they get as much as 
they possibly can.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    Will you commit to using your discretion to not count BAH 
as income to the maximum extent possible?
    Secretary Austin. I will do everything I can that is 
legally possible and feasible to give our troops greater 
capability of greater resources.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, General.
    With that, yield back.
    Chairman Reed. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Duckworth.
    Senator Blackburn, please?
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Austin, why don't we make our intelligence 
reports public?
    Secretary Austin. We share as much as we can from our intel 
reports, but as you know, we have to be careful about 
protecting----
    Senator Blackburn. Yes, would you agree----
    Secretary Austin.--sources and methods----
    Senator Blackburn. Right.
    Secretary Austin.--so that we don't lose capability.
    Senator Blackburn. Would you agree that giving our 
adversaries access to our intel reports is a poor decision?
    Secretary Austin. Exactly. I think that is something that 
we need to absolutely work to avoid.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay, and so, then, why did senior Biden 
official hold nearly half a dozen meetings with top Chinese 
officials to give them information on Russian troop movements?
    Secretary Austin. I don't know of, I don't have insights on 
any occurrences like that.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. So, it seems the Chinese called up 
their comrades in Russia and sent Moscow the intel that binder 
staffers provided them, and it appears that United States 
officials knew Beijing gave the intel to Moscow.
    So, I would imagine you do not support giving Russia our 
intelligence?
    Secretary Austin. I am unfamiliar with the issue that you 
raise.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    Secretary Austin. But you are right, I do not support 
giving our adversaries----
    Senator Blackburn. All right. General Milley, under what 
circumstances, if any, have you advised intelligence-sharing 
with Beijing?
    General Milley. Zero. Never.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you.
    Given what we know now about how that subsequently shared 
information, this intelligence went to Moscow, what would you 
advise for similar scenarios going forward?
    General Milley. I don't think you should give intelligence 
to your adversary, period.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Thank you.
    What senior leader is ultimately responsible for this 
decision of intel-sharing; is it you? Is it Secretary Austin? 
Is it Jake Sullivan? Is it the President? Who is it?
    General Milley. My opinion is, well, I will give you a 
couple of answers to that. One is the Director of National 
Intelligence is responsible for all the intelligence agencies 
in the----
    Senator Blackburn. National Intelligence.
    General Milley. DNI.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    General Milley. So, that is the person who is technically 
responsible, but, obviously, the President is responsible for 
everything the Government does, the Executive Branch does.
    Then each of us are responsible for within our areas of 
responsibility.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. So, under what authorities would 
we share our intelligence with Beijing?
    General Milley. I would ask that you ask these questions of 
the DNI; however, my knowledge of the system is that the 
President and/or the Director of National Intelligence or 
perhaps the director of the CIA or someone like that does have 
authorities, but I don't know what those are, specifically----
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    General Milley.--and it is not something I can answer with 
accuracy.
    Senator Blackburn. So, it is not a practice that you 
approve of, but we do know that it has happened, correct?
    General Milley. I don't know that it has happened. I am not 
aware of what you are talking about, actually.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. We have talked a good bit about 
Afghanistan today, so did Biden's precipitous withdrawal from 
Afghanistan, which really fed perceptions of America in 
retreat, did that play a role in shaping Putin's decision to 
invade Ukraine?
    General Milley. From the intelligence I have read, it is 
not clear. I think it certainly is possible, but I also know 
that Putin had aims on Ukraine long before the end of the war 
in Afghanistan, in fact----
    Senator Blackburn. I think we all know that.
    General Milley. Yes.
    Senator Blackburn. So, he saw his opening, right?
    General Milley. Well, the forces were building up.
    They began to build up their forces in September and 
October, so I think in order to do that, they would have had to 
have the plans and approval long before September, October.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. They have a habit of moving 
forward at the end of the Olympics.
    General Milley. Yes.
    Senator Blackburn. They did it 2008. They did it in 2014. 
We were watching and the White House chose not to move forward.
    I want to ask you, you have both failed, and this comes to 
each of you, to share with us the budget line items for 
diversity and inclusion initiatives and much less, any way that 
you would tie those initiatives to warfighting, but public 
reporting has given us some insight into what is being spent 
and how some of that money has been spent.
    Secretary Austin, earlier this year, there was a report 
that said the Department of Defense is studying the issue of 
allowing gender, non-binary people to serve in the military; is 
that true?
    Secretary Austin. I am supportive of allowing any person 
that is eligible and can meet the qualifications to serve their 
country.
    Senator Blackburn. Who is involved in this study? Are 
uniformed military personnel involved?
    Secretary Austin. I can't speak to, at this point, who was 
involved in any of the studies that we have ongoing, just off 
the top of my head. But I will certainly take the question for 
the record.
    Senator Blackburn. What will the living arrangements be 
made for non-binary servicemembers? Are you all going to come 
back to us and ask for an appropriation for housing?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, any study that we do, it will 
make, certainly be transparent and make it available to you.
    Senator Blackburn. What about gender-fluid individuals, how 
will you handle a servicemember who identifies as male on some 
days and female on other days, or polygender individuals?
    Secretary Austin. I don't care to speculate on, you know, 
what we are going to ask you for or what we are going to--how 
we are going to qualify people.
    Again, some of this is in litigation in various states and, 
you know, I think it is best to take your question for the 
record.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. I have some questions, Mr. 
Chairman, that I will submit for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Blackburn. But Secretary Austin, I do have some 
questions on hypersonics.
    Chairman Reed. We will be going, immediately, Senator 
Blackburn into a classified session and those questions, I 
think, would be answered there.
    Gentlemen, let me thank you for your testimony. We will 
adjourn the open hearing and reconstitute the Committee in SV-
217 at 12:30.
    At this point, I will adjourn the open session and join you 
at 2:30 at SV-217, SVC-217. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 12:18 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                           indopacom posture
    1. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, General Milley, it is good to 
hear that the budget includes $6.1 billion in funding for INDOPACOM's 
priorities. While technological advances are important, we also need to 
ensure there is adequate funding to support a resilient and distributed 
force posture in the Indo-Pacific and improved training ranges. Admiral 
Aquilino identified these requirements in his recent 1242 Report to 
Congress. How does this budget prioritize funding for distributed force 
posture needs?
    Secretary Austin. A resilient and distributed posture and realistic 
high-end training in the Indo-Pacific region are essential to the 
Department as we address our number one pacing challenge, China. To 
that end and as highlighted in the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI) 
budget display, DOD's fiscal year 2023 President's Budget request 
includes $1.2 billion for infrastructure improvements to enhance 
responsiveness and resiliency of U.S. forces in the Indo-Pacific 
region. This funding advances critical initiatives in support of a 
distributed force posture in the Indo-Pacific region, including major 
military construction (MILCON) on Guam to realign Marines to the 
island, and major MILCON on Tinian, Commonwealth of the Northern 
Marianas Islands to support airfield facility development. In addition, 
these funds also support planning and design of additional facilities 
that will enable further distribution of DOD's force posture in 
locations that DOD deems politically and technically feasible. PDI also 
includes $2.3 billion for exercises, training, experimentation, and 
innovation, including funding for the Pacific Multi-Domain Training and 
Experimentation Capability (PMTEC), one of the top priorities 
identified in United States Indo-Pacific Command's (USINDOPACOM's) 1242 
report. PMTEC will enhance and network multiple training ranges across 
the Indo-Pacific region in order to provide realistic, peer environment 
training for United States forces.
    General Milley. The Presidential Budget 2023 request invests in key 
efforts toward modernizing and strengthening DOD's presence in the 
INDOPACOM region. Specifically, the DOD invests in improving logistics, 
maintenance, and pre-positioning; carrying out exercises, training, and 
experimentation; improving infrastructure; and building defense 
capabilities of allies and partners. Additionally, Presidential Budget 
2023 funds United States Indo-Pacific Command's (USINDOPACOM) 
priorities for Guam missile defense, the Pacific Multi-Domain Training 
and Experimentation Capability (PMTEC) network of training ranges for 
United States and ally/partner forces, and the Mission Partner 
Environment (MPE) framework for multinational information sharing.

    2. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, how are you working with the 
State Department to ensure that the United States has entered into the 
international agreements necessary to achieve the required force 
posture in the Pacific?
    Secretary Austin. We are working closely with the State Department 
to ensure we have the necessary international agreements in place to 
support our posture in the Indo-Pacific region. Specifically, we are 
working together to review relevant policy and political-military 
considerations, to assess the willingness of partners to conclude 
needed agreements, and to conduct negotiations. Efforts are ongoing to 
expand and modernize our access, information and intelligence sharing, 
and logistics agreements to support DOD activities in the Indo-Pacific 
region. Differences in our partners' strategic views and limitations in 
our partners' political willingness to enter into agreements remain key 
challenges. We are in continuous coordination with the State Department 
to overcome those challenges and progress the agreements required to 
support DOD posture in the Indo-Pacific region.

                         shipyard modernization
    3. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, while I've been supportive of 
the Navy's Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Plan (SIOP), I'm 
concerned about the timeline, cost overruns, and the capability, even 
with these upgrades, of maintaining a future larger fleet. If we let 
timelines on construction of drydocks slip, that will delay critical 
upgrades to infrastructure that supports the workforce. How does this 
year's budget invest in SIOP?
    Secretary Austin. We are making a once-in-a-generation investment 
in our shipyards through the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization 
Program (SIOP). The budget requests $1.7 billion in fiscal year 2023 
and $8.3 billion across the FYDP to ensure that we maintain a world 
class ship maintenance capability. This is an historic amount that will 
enable the Navy to continue to invest in three primary lines of effort: 
construct and recapitalize the Nation's dry docks; recapitalize and 
reconfigure infrastructure toward optimization; and modernize capital 
equipment.

    4. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, does this year's budget 
request for drydock construction projects reflect lessons learned from 
the significant cost overruns for the drydock at Portsmouth?
    Secretary Austin. We are always looking for ways to improve our 
processes and to ensure that we use taxpayer dollars responsibly and 
judiciously. With respect to drydock construction, the Navy is 
aggressively implementing lessons learned from recently awarded 
projects in the areas of acquisition, design, cost estimation, and 
organizational and process changes. The Navy looked at data related to 
ongoing projects and those in design and acquisition to better improve 
cost and schedule fidelity for drydock construction projects, which is 
reflected in the fiscal year 2023 budget.
                             climate change
    5. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, General Milley, I am glad to 
see that the Department's proposed budget includes $3.1 billion to 
address the effects of climate change. Sea level rise, drought, and 
severe weather events are a few examples of negative effects climate 
change has on DOD installations and operations. It is critical that the 
effects of climate change be accounted for in future threat 
assessments, strategic documents, and training. How are you ensuring 
that climate change considerations are incorporated at all levels of 
decision making within the Joint Force?
    Secretary Austin. Every day, our forces contend with the grave and 
growing consequences of climate change, from hurricanes and wildfires 
that inflict costly harm on U.S. installations and constrain our 
ability to train and operate, to dangerous heat, drought, and floods 
that can trigger crises and instability around the world. You see DOD's 
focus on the effects of climate change reflected in our strategy and in 
our budget. For the first time, climate change considerations are 
integrated throughout the National Defense Strategy (NDS), which I 
submitted to Congress in March 2022. This strategy will drive mission 
prioritization and resourcing and ensure that climate considerations 
are incorporated at all levels of decisionmaking within the Joint Force 
and across the Department. The investments we propose to make in the 
fiscal year 2023 budget will enhance the resilience of our 
installations, make operational platforms more energy efficient, and 
bolster our science and technology programs. These efforts will all 
help make the vision articulated in the NDS and other strategic 
documents a reality. I'd also note that as part of a recent re-
organization, the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy 
established a new office that will focus specifically on matters 
associated with Arctic security policy and global climate security and 
resilience issues. This new office will help ensure these critical 
issues are incorporated in the Department's strategic approach to 
navigating the rapidly evolving security environment.
    General Milley. The Joint Staff is actively including the security 
implications of climate change in our risk analyses, strategy 
development, and planning guidance. Through the Joint Staff Climate 
Change Action Group, we are also ensuring climate change considerations 
are included in our decisionmaking processes. In line with the 
Department of Defense Climate Adaptation Plan and recently published 
National Defense Strategy, we are analyzing the effects climate change 
has on the Joint Force through modeling, simulation, and wargaming. 
These analyses are then integrated in strategies and plans, and used to 
assess, understand, operate, and invest in climate-smart approaches for 
resiliency.

    6. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, Secretary McCord, how will the 
$617 million be used to maintain the readiness of the Joint Force to 
operate in a future shaped by climate change?
    Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord. The Department's $617 
million of new investments will strengthen the efficiency and 
resilience of installations ($263 million); enhance the development of 
demand reduction and energy storage technologies ($186 million); 
leverage DOD buying power to increase efficiency of operational 
platforms, pursue the electrification of non-tactical vehicles, and 
develop the workforce needed to improve installation energy efficiency 
and mission resilience ($153 million); and ensure that Department 
wargaming and analyses incorporate climate-related contingencies and 
variables ($15 million).
                      defense energy/fuel posture
    7. Senator Hirono. General Milley, I believe that renewable energy 
is not simply an environmental calculation, but it is becoming a 
tactical necessity for DOD. I have included provisions in past NDAA's 
to prioritize energy security and resilience at military installations. 
What advantage would decreased reliance on fossil fuels provide the 
Joint Force in the Indo-Pacific?
    General Milley. Effective, reliable, and often onsite alternate 
energy sources can enhance resilience to energy disruptions, reduce 
energy logistics requirements for deployed operating forces, and 
increase the agility of forces across the globe. In alignment with 
improvements to combat effectiveness and capability, the Department 
will continue to integrate renewable energy into our installation 
planning and capability development processes, and invest in 
innovations that enhance our ability to operate in contested 
environments.

    8. Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord, what 
types of green technologies is the Department prioritizing for future 
investments?
    Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord. The Department is pursuing a 
range of investments in energy-related technologies that improve unit 
readiness, deployment agility, and installation resilience while also 
reducing our impact on the environment. In many cases, what is good for 
the mission is also good for the environment--and vice versa. Reducing 
our energy usage and diversifying our energy sources can enhance 
operational effectiveness while also mitigating the drivers of climate 
change. For our installations, we are pursuing energy sources for on-
base power generation, including advanced nuclear microreactors and 
renewable energy, and microgrids to give us more robust options in the 
event of grid supply disruptions. We are helping to accelerate grid 
transition to clean electricity to power our bases with more resilient 
and sustainable power. We are increasing our use of non-tactical zero-
emission vehicles, with charging infrastructure, microgrids to provide 
transportation resilience in the event of energy disruptions. For our 
tactical forces, we are certifying up to four additional sustainable 
aviation fuel pathways to ensure we are ready to use any drop-in 
compatible, low carbon aviation fuels available on the market. We also 
are improving the efficiency of current combat vehicles, ships, and 
aircraft, and investing in electrification, new propulsion 
technologies, and innovative designs to reduce our energy demand and 
increase our capability in contested operating environments.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                        ukraine lessons learned
    9. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what are some of 
the preliminary lessons learned from the conflict in Ukraine on the 
future of warfare? Please be specific with the new perceived 
effectiveness of different weapon systems and changes to military 
doctrine regarding tactics and strategy.
    Secretary Austin. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine is already 
highlighting several potential lessons learned that could impact the 
future of warfare. First, our efforts, including those to reinforce 
NATO's Eastern Flank, have made NATO's conventional deterrent stronger 
now vis-`-vis Russia than at any time in recent decades. We must now 
capitalize on the opportunity by collaborating with our Allies to make 
smart investments, to include improved interoperability, precision 
strike, ISR capabilities, and electronic warfare systems. Second, our 
use of intelligence and information operations throughout the crisis 
has demonstrated the value of seizing early advantage in the 
information space. Third, our integrated response--alongside our Allies 
and partners--demonstrated the potency of non-military instruments of 
power and the ability to impose crippling costs on Russia, thereby 
strengthening the credibility of integrated deterrence. Russia will 
struggle to rebuild its military capability due to our sanctions and 
export controls targeting their defense sector. Finally, the conflict 
demonstrates the utility of collaborating with Allies and partners to 
adopt capabilities and approaches to improve their ability to deny the 
military objectives of aggressors and to improve resistance.
    General Milley. Preliminary lessons learned from the conflict in 
Ukraine include: the importance of working closely with our allies and 
partners to deter aggression, the need for rapid intelligence and 
information sharing, the value of timely and relevant security 
assistance, and the need to counter nuclear coercion via strategic 
deterrence. We operated bilaterally with several nations in Europe to 
directly support Ukraine, while also directly enhancing NATO's defense 
of its member nations. Our Intelligence Community was able to rapidly 
share critical information to alert our allies and partners to the 
threat and provide military information to assist Ukraine's defense of 
their homeland. We have, together with our partners, been successful 
supporting Ukraine logistically in a contested environment, by rapidly 
providing critical materials enabling the Ukrainians to get those 
weapons to the front lines for immediate use. Our pre-conflict Security 
Force Assistance training, through the Joint Multinational Training 
Group-Ukraine and the International Military Education and Training 
program, strengthened Ukraine's ability to withstand Russian assaults. 
We experienced an adversary attempting to use nuclear coercion, re-
affirming the importance of both understanding the nuclear threat and 
our necessary responses. Additionally, it is imperative to achieve air 
superiority in order to conduct successful offensive combined arms 
maneuver. Conversely, it is key to deny air superiority if you are 
conducting a defensive operation. Last, having a decentralized mission 
command and control is critical to success in modern conflict. The 
Joint Staff is also conducting an in-stride review of lessons learned 
from the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Upon completion, the Joint Staff will 
begin a formal process to incorporate relevant lessons learned into 
future military doctrine, strategy, and tactics.

    10. Senator King. General Milley, based on observations in Ukraine 
and Afghanistan, what has the military learned regarding assessing an 
enemy's `will to fight'? How can this be applied to future situations 
of heightened tension and conflict?
    General Milley. The `will to fight' is a significant center of 
gravity. The Russian strategic messaging greatly enhanced the Ukrainian 
will to fight with the pronouncements by Putin and other war leaders 
that the invasion was an existential war to eliminate the Kyiv regime, 
military, and its supporters. Conversely, the Russians indicated the 
war was only existential to the Russian elite's grip on power, not 
their people. Russian forces are far less motivated to conduct high-
risk offensive operations while Ukrainian forces view this war as 
legitimate and supported by the Ukrainian citizenry.
    Senior leadership is crucial, especially in times of heightened 
tension and conflict. President Zelensky's personal courage, combined 
with effective use of all forms of strategic communication and clear 
messaging contrasts clearly with President Ghani's fleeing of Kabul 
that contributed to the collapse of Afghan resolve. We need deeper 
analysis of all sides' motivations, morale, will to fight, leadership, 
and popular support in future situations.
                               inflation
    11. Senator King. Secretary McCord, what metrics is the DOD using 
to measure inflationary costs to the DOD budget, and how does the 
President's budget off-set these costs?
    Secretary McCord. The DOD budget is developed using a wide array of 
inflationary measures, which are used to administer specific programs 
and assess inflationary impacts. In addition to the general purchases 
inflation rate applied to estimate inflation costs to most goods and 
services the Department purchases, which by law (2 U.S.C. 907) is based 
on the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) chain-type price index, the 
Department uses specialized indices for certain items, such as the 
purchase of fuel and the various aspects of compensation to service 
members (e.g., housing market rental surveys for BAH, U.S. Department 
of Agriculture Food Cost Index for BAS, various medical inflation rates 
to project our health costs, etc.). As required by law, the annual pay 
raises for military basic pay and civilian salaries are based on 
Employment Cost Index (ECI), which is not strictly speaking a measure 
of inflation, but rather a reflection of changes in private sector wage 
growth so that our military and civilian pay rates remain competitive.
    Based on the available updates in these various inflationary 
measures between the submission of the fiscal year 2022 budget and the 
fiscal year 2023 President's budget, the Department, with the support 
of the President and the Office of Management and Budget, added 
approximately $20 billion per year to the Department's topline over the 
fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2027 period. Of that amount, 
approximately $14 billion per year reflects updated pricing for the 
purchase of goods and services, and the other $6 billion per year 
addresses higher pay and compensation costs.
                                 audit
    12. Senator King. Secretary McCord, when can the Committee expect a 
`clean' Pentagon Audit?
    Secretary McCord. DOD leadership remains committed to making steady 
and consistent progress toward achieving an unmodified, or ``clean,'' 
audit opinion on our financial statements, but it will be a multi-year 
effort. The DOD uses a combination of tools to consolidate audit 
findings, establish milestones for corrective actions, monitor 
progress, and promote visibility and accountability. Each reporting 
entity under standalone audit with a disclaimer of opinion maintains an 
audit roadmap that details corrective action plan completion dates by 
fiscal year and financial statement line item or audit focus area. To 
hold leadership accountable, deviations from approved roadmaps require 
Deputy Secretary of Defense and Under Secretary of Defense 
(Comptroller)/Chief Financial Officer approval.
    During our fiscal year 2021 financial statement audits, components 
succeeded in downgrading five material weaknesses. We are expecting our 
fiscal year 2022 financial statement audits to demonstrate similar 
progress. However, there were 28 Department-wide material weaknesses 
from our consolidated audit last year. We will need to see significant 
progress from the DOD Components toward downgrading material weaknesses 
for their standalone audits before we can expect to achieve an opinion 
on our consolidated financial statements. This is a multi-year effort, 
but we expect to see consistent progress along the way and I will work 
with leadership across the Department to find opportunities to 
accelerate that progress.

    13. Senator King. Secretary McCord, what cost-saving measures can 
the DOD immediately put in place that would improve efficiency? If 
legislative changes are required, what are these?
    Secretary McCord. First and foremost, I would urge Congress to be 
mindful of the negative effects Continuing Resolutions (CR) have on our 
operations and ability to realize efficiencies. CR stopgap measures are 
wasteful to the taxpayer, reduce the Department's purchasing power, and 
reverse the gains our military has made in readiness and modernization. 
In order for us to plan for and execute the National Defense Strategy, 
DOD must have the ability to better align our funding toward 
prioritized accounts and programs. Under a CR, we are unable to begin 
new programs or projects, production rates for weapons, equipment and 
munitions cannot be increased, and a CR disrupts major exercises and 
training events. Time is money and year after year we continue to give 
away both in CRs.
    In terms of cost-saving measures, we believe that accelerating our 
digital efforts and automating wherever possible is of paramount 
importance to improving efficiency. In February, the Department stood 
up the Office of the Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Officer 
which we expect to increase the speed of our development and use of 
artificial intelligence, data analytics, and machine learning which 
will translate into faster and better decisionmaking and sustain 
military advantages.
    We also expect our financial statement audits to also continue to 
pay dividends in optimizing our operating efficiency. The 
recommendations from our independent auditors have proven to be 
valuable in identifying opportunities for streamlining our business 
processes and strengthening controls over our information systems. 
Corrective action plans implemented thus far have resulted in cost 
savings and operating efficiencies that have more than offset our audit 
fees.
    Additionally, the Department of Defense has one mandatory spending 
proposal of note in this budget, which is to expand the accrual-based 
funding of healthcare for Medicare-eligible retirees (generally those 
age 65 or older) to include all military retirees. This expansion helps 
the Department on several fronts, including: protecting us from the 
risk of significant execution year reprogramming actions due to changes 
in health care costs, providing funds for the retiree population's 
mandatory health care costs during possible continuing resolutions and 
shutdowns, and last, from an audit perspective, implementing best 
practices by recognizing and funding liabilities when they occur--and 
addressing the roughly $260 billion unfunded liability for military 
retiree healthcare by transferring the liability from DOD to the 
general Treasury, while converting to accrual funding going forward. 
The Department has submitted a fiscal year 2023 legislative proposal 
with a fiscal year 2024 start date in support of this request.
    Last, I request Congress to work with the Department to eliminate 
or reduce obsolete reporting requirements that take valuable manpower 
and funding resources away from our National Defense Strategy 
priorities. I strongly believe that we can ensure strong congressional 
oversight while simultaneously reducing the administrative burden on 
the Department.
                        research and development
    14. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what is the 
expected timeframe for the United States to match and surpass China and 
Russia's capabilities in hypersonic missile technology and directed 
energy weaponization?
    Secretary Austin. First, I would say that the Department requires 
the right mix of capabilities to match our warfighting concepts and our 
strategy. In some cases, that will involve hypersonic and directed 
energy capabilities. That is why you saw us include $7.2 billion to the 
fiscal year 2023 budget request for long-range fires, such as 
hypersonic and highly survivable sub-sonic weapons. You also saw us 
bring together a group of industry leaders early in this Administration 
to focus our efforts on hypersonic technology. We can and should move 
more rapidly on this front.
    Developing hypersonic technology directly contributes to the three 
pillars of the Department's 2022 NDS: Integrated Deterrence; 
Campaigning; and Building Enduring Advantages. The Department is making 
significant investments to facilitate rapid development and testing of 
hypersonic and related technologies, to enable affordable production at 
scale, and to accelerate the delivery of these capabilities, which are 
critical to strategic stability. In concert with select allies, DOD is 
pursuing multiple hypersonic-based capability solutions as additions to 
an existing suite of diverse warfighting capabilities. The development 
of hypersonic technology will deliver additional cutting-edge 
capabilities and strategic options to our Armed Forces, supplementing 
our existing unparalleled capabilities.
    We are on pace to deliver intermediate range hypersonic strike 
capability to the Army in fiscal year 2023, and the Navy in fiscal year 
2025 for surface ship launch and fiscal year 2028 for subsurface 
launch. We are developing medium range hypersonic strike capability for 
the Air Force that will be available in fiscal year 2023 and the Navy 
is developing medium range capability that will be available in fiscal 
year 2026. The fiscal year 2023 budget significantly accelerates the 
fielding of this initial set of prototype weapons system capabilities.
    United States development of Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) also 
supports our Integrated Deterrence approach and our warfighters' 
requirement to carryout Integrated Air and Missile Defense, offensive 
operations, and the need to operate in contested environments. The 
development of U.S. DEW technology is moving forward rapidly and now 
enabling multiple ongoing operational demonstrations. This includes 
laser and high-power microwave systems being operated across the world 
by the Services. Four Directed Energy Maneuver Short Range Air Defense 
prototypes will be delivered to an Air Defense Artillery unit by the 
end of fiscal year 2022. The fiscal year 2023 budget continues 
development, enables some key operational demonstrations especially in 
the area of missile defense, and allows the acceleration of DEW 
weaponization of some capabilities, Efforts in fiscal year 2023 and 
fiscal year 2024 include delivery of Indirect Fire Protection 
Capability High Energy Laser, High Powered Microwave, and High-Powered 
Microwave counter missile system prototypes.
    General Milley. Hypersonic weapons remain a top modernization 
priority as we seek to build a modernized joint force that will deter 
peer adversaries. The fiscal year 2023 budget request invests a total 
of $4.7 billion--a 30 percent increase from President's Budget 2022--to 
develop offensive hypersonic systems fielded on air, land, and sea 
platforms. We recently had a successful flight test of the DARPA 
Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) program, and we remain 
on track to field offensive hypersonic capabilities by the early to 
mid-2020's. Specific details regarding the projection of future United 
States hypersonic capabilities relative to Russia and China are 
classified. Classified response is provided.
                         hypersonic investments
    15. Senator King. The DOD budget request and your posture 
statements highlight the significant funding for the Missile Defense 
Agency investments in kinetic `bullet on bullet' defenses and offensive 
hypersonic investments.
    Secretary Austin, General Milley, what are the investments by the 
Missile Defense Agency and each of the services for defending against 
hypersonics, including both kinetic and non-kinetic?
    Secretary Austin. The Missile Defense Agency is investing $465 
million in fiscal year 2023 and $1.8 billion over the FYDP to defend 
against the hypersonic threat. This includes development of a glide-
phase interceptor and demonstration of two hypersonic and ballistic 
tracking space sensors in coordination with U.S. Space Force. The 
Department can provide additional information at a higher 
classification level and would be happy to provide a briefing at your 
convenience. The directed energy investments for countering hypersonic 
missiles are rapidly increasing starting in the fiscal year 2023 
budget.
    MDA is the Executive Agent within DOD for Hypersonics Defense. 
There are no significant separate Service investments to develop 
systems specifically driven by hypersonic defense requirements, 
although there are several terminal defense systems that will provide 
advanced air and missile defense capabilities that will include some 
limited capability against hypersonic threats.
    General Milley. The Department has and continues to invest funds 
toward developing Hypersonic Defenses across multiple programs and 
efforts within the Missile Defense Agency, Services and Defense 
Agencies. The Department [USSF/SDA] has allocated funding to develop 
spaced based sensors to detect and track hypersonic missile threats, as 
well as [USAF] improvements to terrestrial based radars. Additionally, 
the President's Budget request for fiscal year 2023 [MDA] continues to 
leverage and upgrade existing systems for future demonstrations 
designed to incorporate hypersonic glide vehicle defenses into the 
Missile Defense System architecture. Finally, the Department's ongoing 
efforts include [Department of Navy] research and development programs 
to improve hit-to-kill capabilities of current defensive systems 
against emerging hypersonic threats as well as developing new [DARPA] 
advanced technologies.

    16. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what are the 
investments by the Missile Defense Agency and each of the Services in 
directed energy for fiscal year 2023 and across the Future Years 
Defense Plan?
    Secretary Austin. The directed energy budgets for the Missile 
Defense Agency (MDA), the Services, and the Office of the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering (OUSD(R&E)) are shown 
in the chart below. The OUSD(R&E) budget funds key high energy laser 
technology necessary for missile defense. The total for fiscal year 
2023 is $1.079 billion and the total over the Future Year Defense 
Program is $3.411 billion.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       Fiscal Year 2023-
                                   Fiscal Year 2023           27
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Air Force.......................                218               1,013
Army............................                547               1,044
Navy............................                129                 394
MDA.............................                 15                  79
OUSD (R&E)......................                170                 881
  Total.........................              1,079               3,411
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    General Milley. The directed energy budgets for MDA and the 
Services are shown in the chart below. The OUSD (R&E) RT budget is also 
shown because it funds key high energy laser technology necessary for 
missile defense. The total for fiscal year 2023 is $1,079 million and 
the total over the FYDP is $3,411 million.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       Fiscal Year 2023-
                                   Fiscal Year 2023           27
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Air Force.......................                218               1,013
Army............................                547               1,044
Navy............................                129                 394
MDA.............................                 15                  79
OUSD (R&E)......................                170                 881
  Total.........................              1,079               3,411
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    17. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what is the 
proportion of kinetic `bullet on bullet' defense systems versus non-
kinetic (electronic warfare, directed energy) for fiscal year 2023 and 
across the Future Years Defense Plan?
    Secretary Austin. The Department spends 4 to 5 times as much on 
kinetic missile defense as it does on non-kinetic missile defense. The 
Missile Defense Agency (MDA) will spend $9.6 billion in fiscal year 
2023 and $52.8 billion over the FYDP for kinetic missile defense. MDA 
is investing $45 million in fiscal year 2023 and $245 million in the 
FYDP on research and development of non-kinetic defenses. The Services, 
MDA, and OUSD (R&E) will spend $1.079 billion in fiscal year 2023 and $ 
3.411 billion over the FYDP on Directed Energy. Of this a substantial 
portion is for missile defense. The DOD is spending approximately $1.2 
billion on electronic warfare for missile defense in fiscal year 2023. 
The amount over the FYDP is approximately $6 billion. The Department 
can provide additional information on the Services non-kinetic 
investments at a higher classification level and would be happy to 
provide a briefing at your convenience.
    General Milley. The Department of Defense spends 4 to 5 times as 
much on kinetic missile defense as it does on non-kinetic missile 
defense. The Missile Defense Agency will spend $9.6 billion in fiscal 
year 2023 and $52.8 billion over the FYDP for kinetic missile defense. 
MDA is investing $45 million in fiscal year 2023 and $245 million in 
the FYDP on research and development of non-kinetic defenses. The 
Services, MDA, and OUSD (R&E) will spend $1,079 million in fiscal year 
2023 and $ 3,411 million over the FYDP on Directed Energy. Of this a 
substantial portion is for missile defense. The DOD is spending 8$1.2 
billion on electronic warfare for missile defense in fiscal year 2023. 
The amount over the FYDP is 8$6 billion.
                                 unclos
    18. Senator King. General Milley, do you support the ratification 
of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)?
    General Milley. Like my predecessors, I support ratification to the 
Law of the Sea Convention. The Convention reflects customary 
international law on which the United States has long relied for its 
freedoms of navigation and overflight around the world. These rights 
are vital to our national security, and joining the Convention is the 
best means of placing them on a secure footing and maximizing the 
ability of our armed forces to move through and over the world's 
oceans.
                           drug interdiction
    19. Senator King. Secretary Austin, what coordination is currently 
underway by the DOD with the ONDCP to stem the flow of illegal drugs 
into the United States?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is part of a broader interagency 
effort, along with international partners, pursuant to certain limited 
DOD authorities, to stem the flow of illegal drugs into the United 
States. DOD is a National Drug Control Program agency in accordance 
with certain specific DOD statutory authorities and participates in the 
development of the various strategies and other guidance documents 
issued by the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy 
(ONDCP). DOD is also a member of the Interdiction Committee, whose 
members meet to discuss and resolve issues regarding the coordination, 
oversight, and integration of U.S. Government drug-interdiction efforts 
and to advise the Director, ONDCP, on issues regarding drug-
interdiction strategy and policies.

    20. Senator King. Secretary Austin, who is the lead person `in 
charge' of policy and operations for DOD?
    Secretary Austin. Ultimately, I am in charge of policy and 
operations for all of DOD. When we talk about the exercise of specific 
counter-drug policy and operations in the Department, the Deputy 
Assistant Secretary of Defense (DASD) for Counternarcotics and 
Stabilization Policy provides policy direction and program management 
for DOD's counterdrug and counter transnational organized crime 
efforts. The DASD is under the authority, direction, and control of the 
Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and the Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict. Separately, 
the Combatant Commanders are responsible for counterdrug operations in 
their respective areas of responsibility, and the Under Secretary of 
Defense for Personnel and Readiness is responsible for DOD policy 
regarding drug testing, education, and treatment of DOD personnel.

    21. Senator King. Secretary Austin, what qualitative measures of 
effectiveness are used to determine the Department's contribution to 
counterdrug operations--success or otherwise.
    Secretary Austin. The Department is part of a broader interagency 
effort, along with international partners, to disrupt, degrade, and 
deter the flow of illicit drugs, precursor chemicals, and associated 
funds. Given the supporting role we play our measures of effectiveness 
are necessarily a part of our partners' respective measures of 
effectiveness. That is, our collective success is our main qualitative 
measure of effectiveness. With respect to specific efforts, we provide 
detection and monitoring and intelligence analysis support to 
counterdrug efforts. Our partners are responsible for interdictions, 
seizures, arrests, sanctions, and designations.

    22. Senator King. General Milley, what operations and exercises are 
planned this year in the Western Hemisphere to build partner capacity 
to help with the war on drugs?
    General Milley. The Joint Force has several planned exercises that 
focus on Counter Drug (CD) and Counter Transnational Criminal 
Organization (CTOC) operations in the USSOUTHCOM area of responsibility 
(AOR). USSOUTHCOM joint exercises TRADEWINDS and CENTAM GUARDIAN are 
multi-domain Field Training & Command Post Exercises that build 
capacity of participating nations and enhance skills related to CTOC 
operations. TRADEWINDS includes interagency participation from the 
United States Coast Guard, United States Drug Enforcement Agency, and 
the Federal Bureau of Investigations. Additional joint exercises in the 
USSOUTHCOM AOR build skills that are transferable to CTOC operations 
such as interoperability, domain awareness, and intelligence/
information sharing.
    Joint Interagency Task Force--South (JIATFS) conducts ongoing air 
and maritime detection and monitoring operations to enable law 
enforcement interdiction and apprehension of illicit trafficking within 
the JIATFS Joint Operations Area. Additionally, in fiscal year 2023 the 
Joint Force plans to support steady State partner nation detection, 
monitoring, interdiction and apprehension operations with France and 
Netherlands in the Central and Eastern Caribbean Sea and focused 
operations with Colombia, Ecuador, and Panama.
                            china commission
    23. Senator King. I believe we must establish an unbiased and non-
partisan commission to examine a grand strategy for our approach to 
China, similar in intent to President Eisenhower's Solarium Project. We 
need to think of a holistic approach to create a stable international 
order in which China (or Russia) cannot dictate regional developments.

    Secretary Austin, General Milley, in order to avoid the United 
States trying to ``spend our way out of conflict,'' how can we 
specifically counter China's major activities in your area of 
responsibility?
    Secretary Austin. You have heard me say many times that our number 
one pacing challenge remains China. We reiterated this point in our new 
National Defense Strategy. The Department is focused on getting the 
right mix of capabilities aligned to our warfighting concepts and our 
strategy and ultimately in response to the many national security 
challenges we face. I feel confident that our fiscal year 2023 budget 
request fully resources the NDS, including our primary focus on 
responding to challenges posed by the People's Republic of China (PRC). 
We are focused not only on maintaining our strategic edge, but on how 
we remain dominant on the battlefield--today, and in any future 
conflict. That is why we are focused on strengthening our approaches to 
integrated deterrence, campaigning, building enduring advantages, and 
working closely with our allies and partners to deter adversaries and, 
if deterrence fails, to prevail in conflict. That includes focusing our 
efforts on securing access, basing, and overflight in key parts of the 
Indo-Pacific region, and why we are pursuing a more distributed and 
forward posture there. We also have great capability and capacity in 
some of our closest Allies and partners in the region that we must 
continue to draw on now and in the future.
    General Milley. The Joint Force will continue to pursue an Indo-
Pacific region that is free and open, connected, prosperous, secure, 
and resilient. To ensure this we are advancing integrated deterrence 
through active campaigning by:

      deepening cooperation and enhancing interoperability with 
allies and partners;

      maintaining peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait;

      innovating to operate in rapidly evolving threat 
environments, including space, cyberspace, and critical-and emerging-
technology areas;

      strengthening extended deterrence;

      pursuing the complete denuclearization of the Korean 
Peninsula;

      delivering on AUKUS

      expanding United States Coast Guard presence and 
cooperation against other transnational threats;

      working with Congress to fund the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative and the Maritime Security Initiative.

    24. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what would be 
the greatest benefit this commission could deliver?
    Secretary Austin. The Department does not currently have a position 
on the creation of a commission to examine a grand strategy for our 
approach to China.
    General Milley. Develop a collective competitive framework that 
synchronizes DOD's actions with the interagency in a system that 
addresses the PRC objectives essential to the achieve our Nation's 
strategic objectives.

    25. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what would put 
us in the best position to avoid the United States and China from 
escalating conflict and careening into a war with China?
    Secretary Austin. My primary focus with respect to the People's 
Republic of China (PRC) is to deter conflict and avoid war. It remains 
critical that we have good lines of communication with China's leaders 
at all levels to ensure that we do not unnecessarily escalate tensions 
or end up in a conflict. To that end, we are focused on implementation 
of the National Defense Strategy and its primary methods, especially 
integrated deterrence, and campaigning. By developing and combining our 
strengths to maximum effect while gaining advantages against the full 
range of China's coercive actions, we will ensure that we are in a 
position to deter the PRC from escalating potential crises into 
conflicts. We are also working to establish crisis communications 
mechanisms with the PRC, to prevent inadvertent escalation.
    General Milley. We must continue to reinforce to President Xi and 
other PRC leaders that the risks and costs of military action outweigh 
potential benefits, while also enhancing our crisis communications 
architecture with Beijing to prevent incidents from unintentionally 
escalating into conflict.

    26. Senator King. Secretary Austin, General Milley, what are the 
`toughest problems' OUTSIDE of military imbalances?
    Secretary Austin. Our global competitors have greater access to 
commercial state-of-the art technologies than ever before and can 
leverage these technologies to threaten United States national 
security. For example, the People's Republic of China's (PRC's) 
Military-Civil Fusion (MCF) Development Strategy is a nationwide 
endeavor that seeks to meld the PRC's economic and social development 
strategies with its security strategies, in support of the PRC's 
national rejuvenation goals. This is why it is so important that the 
United States continue to work to on-shore critical capabilities like 
microelectronics and why we must protect our own critical supply 
chains. In addition, the PRC is seeking to establish a more robust 
overseas logistics and basing infrastructure to allow the People's 
Liberation Army (PLA) to project and sustain military power at greater 
distances. The Department is also focused on security access, basing, 
and overflight in the Indo-Pacific region to maintain our strategic 
edge and to counter Chinese aggression.
    General Milley. The Chinese economic ties with our country and 
every one of our allies and partners increases the PRC's leverage, 
decreases allies and partners will to resist PRC pressure, and 
increases vulnerability of domestic populations should national leaders 
take tougher stances against the PRC.
                                 arctic
    27. Senator King. I supported Sen Sullivan's Arctic Security 
Initiative amendment last year, and helped get it into law with the 
Chairman.
    Secretary Austin, General Milley, what specific resource shortfalls 
do our armed forces currently possess that would limit its ability to 
conduct exercises/operations in the High North? Please be specific to 
include operations and sustainment funding for exercises, equipment 
shortfalls such as weather gear for soldiers or unique platforms.
    Secretary Austin. I am confident that our Joint Force is resourced 
to complete our exercises and operations around the world, including in 
the High North. The United States is an Arctic nation, and the 
Department strongly supports efforts to ensure the protection of our 
interests in the Arctic region. As you know, we recently created a new 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Arctic and Global Resilience, 
and last year we announced the establishment of the Ted Stevens Center 
for Arctic Security Studies in Alaska. We will remain focused on the 
Arctic, and I will never hesitate to request more resources if we 
determine that we need them.
    The Department will also continue to work with Allies and partners, 
and as part of a whole-of-government approach, to closely monitor our 
competitors' activities in the Arctic and strengthen the rules-based 
order in the region. United States activities and posture in the Arctic 
must be calibrated to enable the Department to preserve its overall 
focus on the Indo-Pacific region, but the Department is making key 
investments in enhancing our domain awareness capabilities, including 
investments in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance 
capabilities; early warning; weather satellites; and communications, to 
achieve our homeland defense priorities. By improving our capabilities, 
deepening our partnership with Canada in the context of the North 
American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and working with Allies and 
partners to increase shared air and maritime domain awareness, we are 
sending key strategic deterrent messages to our competitors.
    General Milley. Thank you for the support of this important 
initiative. The Joint Staff directs the global readiness levels that 
our forces must maintain. It is an issue for the entire Joint Force. As 
a Joint Force, we are not fully equipped to operate at the desired 
level in the High North. The Joint Force continues to expand and 
address the operational challenges that the High North presents through 
expansion of exposure through Joint, Interagency, and Multinational 
exercises.
                              kc-46 basing
    28. Senator King. Maine is the proud home of the Air National 
Guard's 101st Refueling Wing, the ``MAINEiacs.'' Maine geographic 
location and air corridors offer a strategic hub for supporting trans-
Atlantic deployments as well as Arctic operations.
    Senator King. Secretary Austin, would you support modernizing the 
unit with the new KC-46 aircraft?
    Secretary Austin. As they do with all basing modernization 
decisions, the Department of the Air Force will use the strategic 
basing process to determine locations best suited for future rounds of 
KC-46 aircraft basing and will consider all factors relevant to the 
decision.

    29. Senator King. General Milley, do you believe having a 
modernized and capable fleet of KC-46s at the strategic location of 
Bangor, ME is beneficial to the facilitating operations in the Arctic 
and trans-Atlantic flights to EUCOM?
    General Milley. The aerial refueling and technological capabilities 
that the KC-46 provides to the Joint Force are critical. This is 
especially relevant as was highlighted in the recent NDS with China as 
the pacing challenge. The ANG 101st refueling wing in Maine plays a 
critical role in our Nation's ability to globally project the Joint 
Force.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin
                         usmc force design 2030
    30. Senator Manchin. Secretary Austin, as you know the Marine Corps 
has made many painful, but necessary, divestments from legacy platforms 
such as tanks and investments in newer technologies and capabilities 
that will better enable the Marine Corps to counter our pacing threat, 
China. I think the Marine Corps' investment and divestment so far made 
in Force Design 2030 are important to highlight because we are at a 
tipping point. All eyes are on the Marine Corps to complete this 
necessary realignment of their force, and if we falter now we risk 
creating compounding problems for the other Services who are following 
the Marines' lead. Myself and a number of the Members on this Committee 
have already committed to making tough decisions even if it means we 
lose equity in equipment that is built in our home states. Can you 
comment on Force Design 2030? Specifically, how quickly do each of the 
Services need to meet their modernization goals to counter the future 
threats we're going to be facing?
    Secretary Austin. The Commandant of the Marine Corps has briefed me 
on his Force Design 2030 plan, which I support. As you note, it is 
important that we look at what capabilities no longer meet the need, 
and where we must invest for the future. Each of the Services, 
including the Marine Corps, is undertaking modernization efforts today 
to ensure that the Joint Force has the right mix of capabilities to 
meet current and future challenges.
    The Marine Corps is focused on reallocating its budget request to 
its highest priority requirements: long-range precision fires, 
resilient sensor and communication networks, and mobility platforms. 
These investments will result in new anti-ship missile capabilities, 
advanced ISR assets, and additional mobility platforms in fiscal year 
2023 and over the next several years. The fiscal year 2023 budget 
request continues to build out capacity so that the Marine Corps can 
better contribute as a naval expeditionary force in support of the 
Joint Force.
                   ukraine and future warfare trends
    31. Senator Manchin. General Milley, Putin's war in Ukraine is 
offering us many interesting, if tragic, insights into how a future war 
with a near-peer competitor might play out. Of note, according to open 
source intelligence, Russia has lost over two-thousand tanks. The 
overwhelming majority of these roughly 10 million dollar Russian tanks 
were destroyed by 120 thousand dollar anti-tank missiles such as the 
Javelin. Understanding the open nature of this communication and based 
upon your analysis and observations of Putin's war in Ukraine, what 
types of technologies do you believe will be decisive in our next war?
    General Milley. To prevail against a near-peer adversary in our 
next war, the Joint Force must employ a variety of new technologies 
across multiple domains. To that end, the Department has identified 14 
critical technology areas vital to national security. The Joint Force 
will continue to evolve our Joint Warfighting Concept and deliver these 
technologies as warfighting capability as the ever-changing threat from 
our adversaries demand.

    The Department's 14 critical technology areas are:

    1. Seed Areas of Emerging Opportunity
         Biotechnology
         Quantum Science
         Future Generation Wireless Technology (FutureG)
         Advanced Materials

    2.  Effective Adoption Areas--where there is existing vibrant 
commercial sector activity
         Trusted AI and Autonomy
         Integrated Network Systems-of-Systems
         Microelectronics
         Space Technology
         Renewable Energy Generation and Storage
         Advanced Computing and Software
         Human-Machine Interfaces

    3. Defense-Specific Areas
         Directed Energy
         Hypersonics
         Integrated Sensing and Cyber

    32. Senator Manchin. General Milley, how is this reflected in the 
Department of Defense's budget request?
    General Milley. We are witnessing a fundamental change in the 
character of war driven by advancements in disruptive technologies like 
hypersonics, artificial intelligence (AI), robotics, and cyber. The 
Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget request makes the largest-ever 
investment in RDT&E, at $130B, to modernize the Joint Force to fight 
the battles of the future and keep up with the revolution in technology 
already underway. The budget also includes the largest ever S&T request 
at $16.5B, and includes investment in 14 critical enabling technologies 
that could be decisive in the next war, like biotechnology, quantum 
science, and trusted AI.
                         amphibious ship fleet
    33. Senator Manchin. Secretary Austin, the vast majority of the 
challenges you highlighted in your opening statement are directly 
supported by our navy, which as you know are powerful tools of force 
projection. While aircraft carriers are the premier demonstration of 
that force projection, I would argue that our L-class amphibious ships 
offer much greater flexibility. From quick response deployments like 
the USS Kearsarge is on to Europe for the crisis in Ukraine to 
Humanitarian Aid and Disaster Response missions after natural disasters 
around the globe, our Sailors and Marines on amphibious ships arguably 
do more to maintain United States global dominance than any other tool 
in our kit. Unfortunately, maintenance and new procurements within the 
Navy's amphibious fleet leave our influence abroad greatly reduced. Are 
you familiar with these issues and how do we ensure that we're not 
losing capability by over-focusing on aircraft carriers and submarines?
    Secretary Austin. We are focused on getting the right mix of 
capabilities matched to our warfighting concepts and our strategy to 
respond to security challenges today, and into the future. Amphibious 
ships will remain a cornerstone of our global presence, deterrence, and 
crisis response. Our fiscal year 2023 budget request seeks to produce a 
balanced fleet that remains capable of a high level of readiness for 
power projection, sea control, maritime security, and sealift. That 
required near-term divestment of some Littoral Combat Ships that 
experienced high operating and sustainment costs. The near-term 
divestment will enable us to field advanced capabilities that will 
better support future combat requirements.

    34. Senator Manchin. Secretary Austin, I've been told our minimum 
number of amphibious L-class ships should be in the 36 to 40 range, but 
in your opinion, what is the absolute minimum number of L-class 
amphibious ships required to meet our strategic needs?
    Secretary Austin. We are focused on getting the right mix of 
capabilities matched to our warfighting concepts and our strategy to 
respond to security challenges today, and into the future. Amphibious 
ships will remain a cornerstone of our global presence, deterrence, and 
crisis response. Our fiscal year 2023 budget request seeks to produce a 
balanced fleet that remains capable of a high level of readiness for 
power projection, sea control, maritime security, and sealift. I am 
confident it does so.
                 cost savings by commercial comparison
    35. Senator Manchin. Secretary McCord, while I know it's not a 
perfect comparison, I was surprised to learn that in making acquisition 
decisions the Department of Defense either doesn't have access to or is 
not choosing to compare the commercial price of equipment to the cost 
the Department, and our taxpayers, are paying. One example I was made 
aware of was the lack of transparency from aircraft manufacturers that 
sell to both airlines and the Department. Essentially, we have to 
assume that airlines are paying a substantially reduced price for a 
similar aircraft that DOD is buying at substantial markup. Would you be 
supportive of Congress requiring any defense contractor that also 
supplies the commercial market making their commercial prices available 
to DOD?
    Secretary McCord. The Department is supportive of legislative 
changes to increase transparency and require industry to provide the 
data needed to determine price reasonableness of commercial products 
and services, including commercial sales data. The existence of 
shortcomings in current acquisition regulations can create barriers to 
completing adequate price reasonableness determination. Contracting 
officers continue to experience challenges obtaining necessary 
commercial data to determine price reasonableness. The Department has 
submitted a legislative proposal to address these challenges.
                          cyber mission force
    36. Senator Manchin. Secretary Austin, Tuesday was a big cyber day 
for this Committee. In the morning we heard from Cyber Command's 
General Nakasone, and in the afternoon, my friend Senator Rounds and I 
held a hearing with the Commanders of each Service's cyber force. Our 
technical capabilities seem to be mostly on par with our adversaries 
across the joint force, but the individual services are far below where 
they should be on recruiting and retaining top talent within our Cyber 
Mission Force. We've already provided enhanced budget authority to 
Cyber Command, and increased incentive pay to $5,000 a month, but we 
just heard that there is a Department of Defense Instruction limiting 
that pay within the Services. I hope that you're unaware of this 
Instruction, but it appears to me that Congress has clearly provided an 
authority that is desperately needed to keep our highly qualified cyber 
operators and the Office of the Secretary of Defense has gone out of 
its way to put that authority on hold. Can you comment?
    Secretary Austin. Our cyber warriors add enormous value to our 
Department and our warfighting mission. That is why you saw us include 
$11.2 billion for cyberspace in our fiscal year 2023 budget request 
with resources to further develop our Cyber Mission Force. We are also 
grateful to Congress for the authorities you have given us to be able 
to offer a wide range of monetary incentives to recruit and retain 
cyber talent. With these existing authorities, DOD can selectively 
target incentives where they are needed most. In particular, the 
Department can offer enlistment bonuses of up to $50,000 for a 2-year 
enlistment and retention bonuses of up to $30,000 per year for each 
additional year of military service an enlisted member commits to 
serving. Officers are eligible for a 3-year accession bonus of up to 
$60,000 and retention bonuses of up to $50,000 per year. If these 
bonuses and incentives are not sufficient, the Department can also 
offer a critical skills retention bonus of up to $200,000 over a career 
for an active-duty military member. These incentives are effective 
monetary tools for recruiting and retaining the military cyber 
workforce.
    Additionally, the Department is authorized to offer up to $5,000 
per month (or $60,000 annually) to military members to serve in hard-
to-fill or arduous assignments, or positions of significant 
responsibility. Over the past 14 years, however, the Department has not 
needed to pay the maximum amount and, by policy, has limited payment to 
$3,500 per month (or $42,000 annually). If necessary, the Department 
can make exceptions and can also increase its policy limit to the 
maximum authorized. It is reassuring to know that the Department has 
both the flexibility and authority to do so.

    37. Senator Manchin. Secretary Austin, I look forward to working 
with you on this issue and a number of others affecting our cyber 
force, but I cannot overstate the importance of qualified cyber 
professionals to future conflicts. Cyber affects everything that we do 
today and even more so in the future. Can you commit to me that you 
will make it a priority to empower our cyber Commanders to retain their 
talent?
    Secretary Austin. You absolutely have my commitment to support our 
cyber commanders and help them retain talent. Our cyber warriors add 
enormous value to our Department and our warfighting mission. That is 
why you saw us include $11.2 billion for cyberspace in our fiscal year 
2023 budget request with resources to further develop our Cyber Mission 
Force. The Department is focused on developing a sustainable force 
generation model for the Cyberspace Operations Forces, because we know 
that without a world-class workforce, the Department will not be able 
to compete effectively in cyberspace.
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                  Questions Submitted by Senator Rosen
                   housing for junior enlisted troops
    38. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, Secretary McCord, Junior 
enlisted servicemembers, including Airmen stationed at Nevada's Nellis 
Air Force Base, are averaging only 12 months in on-base housing and 
being forced to move off base due to shortages. This is compounded by 
the fact that these troops are forced to cover their rental deposits 
and moving costs before they are eligible to begin receiving their 
Basic Allowance for Housing. That is why I worked to include a 
provision in last year's NDAA directing DOD to brief Congress by March 
1st of this year on the Department's plan to provide a partial 
dislocation allowance to these troops. We have still not received this 
briefing, and I recently heard from Nellis that none of their Airmen 
who were forced to move out of the dorms have received a dislocation 
allowance. Why is DOD not providing our junior enlisted troops, 
including Airmen at Nellis and across the country, with the dislocation 
allowance they are authorized to receive? How do you plan on addressing 
the housing shortage?
    Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord. The health and well-being of 
our Service members and their families is my top priority. That is why 
I recently approved a Partial Dislocation Allowance (DLA) for our 
Service members. Effective April 27, 2022, a partial dislocation 
allowance is paid to a member of the Uniformed Services ordered to 
occupy or vacate housing provided by the United States. This update 
authorizes all members, including junior enlisted members without 
dependents, to be eligible for a Partial DLA when ordered to vacate 
government quarters, including barracks and dormitory-style housing. We 
are committed to providing high quality housing to our men and women in 
uniform, and to support them when government housing is not available.
                commuting assistance for servicemembers
    39. Senator Rosen. Secretary McCord, airmen stationed at Creech Air 
Force Base and servicemembers stationed at many other installations 
have to commute many miles to base from where they live. Creech has 
very limited housing nearby, so the vast majority of Airmen live in Las 
Vegas, which is about 45 miles away. It's an even longer commute for 
those who have to drop off their kids at the child development center 
or utilize other services at Nellis Air Force Base on the opposite end 
of town. Does DOD have the existing authorities to provide these airmen 
with a gas stipend or something similar to make their commute less 
expensive? Or is this something the services would need help from 
Congress to address?
    Secretary McCord. In general, outside of congressionally approved 
programs like the Mass Transit Benefit Program [5 U.S.C. Sec.  7905], 
commuting costs are considered a personal expense of the servicemember.
    The Department also notes that a gas stipend, as suggested in your 
question, would be considered taxable income for members under the 
Internal Revenue Code. At this time, the Department has no authority to 
provide reimbursement for single-occupant motor vehicles used for daily 
commuting from service members' domicile to their assigned duty 
stations.
    The Department does, however, have a program in place that Services 
can use to incentivize hard-to-fill assignments (37 U.S.C. Sec. 352), 
and a program to account for the cost of living in high-cost areas (37 
U.S.C. Sec.  403b). Currently, Creech Air Force Base does not qualify 
for either of these programs.
               maintaining our defense technological edge
    40. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, Global competition, declining 
R&D, contracting challenges, and the STEM workforce gap are a few 
impediments eroding our technological edge with adversaries. How do you 
assess the United States' ability to develop, adopt, and deploy 
emerging technologies for national security? How do you assess China's 
ability to do the same?
    Secretary Austin. The United States continues to focus urgently on 
developing, adopting, and deploying emerging technologies in support of 
our national security. It is critically important that the U.S. 
military not only maintain our strategic and technological edge but 
that we remain dominant on the battlefield in all domains. Science, 
technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) and innovation are 
cornerstones of the American economy that support those efforts. The 
innovation ecosystem that has developed within the United States, which 
includes academia, small and non-traditional businesses, not-for-profit 
entities, and large business, continues to provide the Department with 
technology options that enable new and innovative warfighting 
capability.
    The Department, however, remains concerned with China's goal to 
out-innovate the United States. China's annual research and development 
(R&D) spending grew 169 times from around 14.3 billion yuan ($2.21 
billion) at the beginning of the 1990's to 2.44 trillion yuan ($382 
billion) in 2020, and China's total R&D expenditures overtook Japan's 
in 2013, becoming second in the world after the United States. Growing 
Chinese research capabilities, combined with a focus on military-civil 
fusion and later-stage developmental research, is accelerating China's 
ability to conduct translational research and indicates that China has 
developed a strong ability to develop, adopt, and employ emerging 
technologies.
    It is crucial that the Department maintain situational awareness of 
Chinese, and all international, R&D advances to avoid technological 
surprise. This is in part accomplished through fostering collaborations 
between U.S. and foreign scientists, which are key for both advancing 
U.S. research and innovation and for understanding advancements 
occurring overseas. In addition, a focus on international collaboration 
can help to draw more scientists to the United States where we can add 
to our capabilities.
    At the same time, the DOD International Science and Technology 
Engagement Strategy establishes a framework for the Department's 
international S&T engagement for both collaboration and awareness of 
international research. The Department has taken a number of steps and 
has existing programs that allow us to be highly innovative. Programs 
such as the Small Business Innovation Research and Small Technology 
Transfer Program (SBIR/STTR) program enables the Department to take 
advantage of the small business community or extensive use of DIU to 
enhance connectivity and incorporation of non-traditional performers 
into the Department's innovation ecosystem. The Department also 
continues to invest in science and technology, from basic research 
through advanced technology and development that lays the foundation 
for national security and commercial applications in the future.
    Finally, it is important that the Administration work with Congress 
to address the urgent need to invest in made-in-America semiconductors 
as well as research and development that will protect our economic and 
national security. Weapon systems employed on the battlefields of today 
and emerging technologies of tomorrow depend on our access to a steady, 
secure supply of microelectronics. Our strategic competitors are making 
substantial investments in this area--China, the United States 
military's pacing challenge, has already spent $150 billion updating 
its semiconductor industry. The investments made through legislation 
like the CHIPS Act are critical to our national security and will 
directly support America's technological and military edge.

    41. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, the PROMOTES Act--bipartisan 
legislation I introduced with Senators Rounds, Blackburn, and Peters to 
authorize a DOD program to prepare students in JROTC for STEM fields--
became law as part of the fiscal year 2021 NDAA. What are other ways 
Congress can improve the Department of Defense's ability to recruit, 
train, and retain a more technologically literate workforce?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you for your continued leadership in 
supporting the young recruits coming into the military, particularly by 
championing science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM). 
Congress has provided significant support to DOD's hiring needs, to 
include providing streamlined direct hiring authorities and enhanced 
pay authorities for positions requiring expertise in STEM, as well as 
cyber and other critical positions. The Department continues to seek 
innovative means to use existing hiring, compensation, and employee 
development authorities and programs to better recruit, train, and 
retain the diverse and highly skilled technological workforce required 
to meet mission demands now and in the future.

    42. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, I'd like get your thoughts on 
the ``valley of death,'' which is the point in the DOD innovation cycle 
when cutting-edge technologies die before they can win a contract to 
produce software or equipment at scale. What are specific steps the 
Department of Defense can take to improve the transition of successful 
technology prototypes to the point of production, and then rapidly 
field these technologies at scale so that we can leverage technology to 
better compete with our adversaries?
    Secretary Austin. The DOD is urgently focusing on ways to tackle 
what is described as the ``valley of death,'' where we lose so many 
good technologies before they are fully brought to market and built at 
scale. To ensure the private sector pursues the technologies needed for 
national defense, the Department has increased its leadership 
engagement and collaboration with innovative companies in the defense 
industrial base. We have increased our engagement with the small 
business community to understand their challenges and my team has been 
charged with developing strategies to remove obstacles systemically. We 
are committed to making it easier for small businesses to work with the 
Department and to overcoming barriers and creating pathways to 
transition technology at scale. The President's budget for fiscal year 
2023 makes a substantial investment in the Rapid Defense 
Experimentation Reserve (RDER). The goal of RDER is to produce 
capabilities to support the Joint Warfighting Concept. RDER will 
accomplish this goal by engaging in iterative experimentation with 
integrated prototypes, including 32 in the fiscal year 2023 sprint. We 
also recently established Competitive Advantage Pathfinders (CAPs) to 
identify and overcome pain points across the defense acquisition 
system, including transitioning emerging technology and enabling 
scalable reforms to improve the delivery of producible and sustainable 
capability.
    As these initiatives are executed, we are committed to continuing 
to review our internal processes with an ultimate goal of accelerating 
the timelines in which emerging technologies are fielded so we maintain 
our technological edge and remain dominant on the battlefield.

    43. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, one of the gaps in the defense 
technology development process is the lack of private capital interest 
in defense-centric startup companies. How can the Department of Defense 
better incentivize private capital investments in small to medium size 
defense companies and does it need any new authorities to do so?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is currently exploring new ways to 
catalyze private investment in national security related activities, 
and we will come to Congress if we believe we need additional 
authorities to support our work. Coordinated With: OGC.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
                         landmine alternatives
    44. Senator Rounds. General Milley, thank you for your response on 
landmine alternatives at the DOD Posture Hearing. Unfortunately, due to 
time, I was unable to ask my complete question.
    General Milley, can you describe the capability gap that has 
emerged, due to both policy and the degradation of our stocks, and the 
resulting threat to our ground forces' ability to use explosive 
obstacles for protection, to increase the effects of our systems, and 
to influence enemy freedom of maneuver on the battlefield?
    General Milley. The loss of APL outside the Korean Peninsula 
increases the challenge to the United States military to effectively 
respond, but does not preclude an effective response. The United States 
maintains a range of capabilities to respond to challenges across the 
globe and adaptability is a hallmark of the U.S. military. We most 
certainly maintain the capability to influence enemy freedom of 
maneuver on the battlefield.
    The Army is developing the XM204 Top Attack and XM343 Standoff 
Activated Volcano Obstacle Bottom Attack munitions as the new 
generation anti-vehicle system with initial operating capability in 
fiscal year 2023.

    45. Senator Rounds. General Milley, can you explain how these 
landmine alternatives would increase the effectiveness of Javelins and 
other direct (and indirect) fire weapons systems, both for United 
States forces and had we been able to be provide these capabilities to 
the Ukrainians?
    General Milley. Planned landmine alternatives will serve the same 
doctrinal function as the current landmine inventory, which includes 
use in counter-mobility operations to increase enemy force 
vulnerability.
    Canalize enemy forces into pre-established kill zones maximizes 
enemy vulnerability to direct and indirect fire systems.

    46. Senator Rounds. General Milley, can you describe the 
precautions the United States takes with this type of capability, from 
rules of engagement to release authority, to self-destruct and self-
deactivate capabilities and provide your best professional military 
advice on the gravity of this gap, the risk to our ground forces, and 
the risk to our mission?
    General Milley. The DOD complies with the international legal 
obligations governing use of landmines under the Amended Mines Protocol 
II annexed to the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons.
    The Department will only employ, develop, produce, or otherwise 
acquire landmines that possess self-destruction mechanisms and self-
deactivation features.
    The loss of APL outside the Korean Peninsula increases the 
challenge to the United States military to effectively respond, but 
does not preclude an effective response. The United States maintains a 
range of capabilities to respond to challenges across the globe and 
adaptability is a hallmark of the U.S. military. We most certainly 
maintain the capability to influence enemy freedom of maneuver on the 
battlefield.

    47. Senator Rounds. General Milley can you describe the studies 
that have been conducted by DOD, or on behalf of DOD, and what the 
findings have been with respect to force structure requirements and the 
projected reductions of friendly casualties, while executing assigned 
missions or contingency plans? Please submit a classified response if 
you cannot address this question with an unclassified response.
    General Milley. The current DOD Landmine Policy was informed by the 
2016 Department of Defense Report on the Utility of and Alternatives to 
Antipersonnel Landmine and Cluster Munitions and the 2018 Antipersonnel 
Landmine / Cluster Munitions Study.
    Given the classified nature of both studies, I will submit a 
classified response.

    48. Senator Rounds. General Milley, I have been told that the Army 
has been developing landmine alternatives for over 12 years, yet the 
objective capability is not scheduled to be fielded until at least 
fiscal year 2030 or fiscal year 2031. To me, this results in 
unacceptable risk to the mission and the force.
    Can you provide a plan on what the department would have to do to 
aggressively accelerate the development of a landmine alternative 
before fiscal year 2030?
    General Milley. The Services are committed to developing landmine 
alternatives in support of Combatant Commanders and the Joint Force.
    The Army is developing the XM204 Top Attack and XM343 Standoff 
Activated Volcano Obstacle Bottom Attack munitions as the new 
generation anti-vehicle system with initial operating capability in 
fiscal year 2023.
    Both the XM204 and XM343 are effective when utilized on their own 
to delay enemy maneuver.
    These systems will close any capability gap.

    49. Senator Rounds. Can you also provide a plan on how the 
Department could maintain sufficient numbers of the current capability, 
which has self-deactivate/self-destruct features?
    General Milley. The Services are committed to developing landmine 
alternatives in support of Combatant Commanders and the Joint Force.
    The Army is developing the XM204 Top Attack and XM343 Standoff 
Activated Volcano Obstacle Bottom Attack munitions as the new 
generation anti-vehicle system with initial operating capability in 
fiscal year 2023.
    Both the XM204 and XM343 are effective when utilized on their own 
to delay enemy maneuver.
    These systems will close any capability gap.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                        usmc force requirements
    50. Senator Sullivan. General Milley, in your written testimony for 
this hearing, you state, ``[t]his budget will enable the decisions, 
modernization, and transformation the Joint Force needs to set the 
conditions for the Force of 2030. This budget allows the Joint Force to 
remain on a stable glide path toward that future.'' Yet, in the last 
several weeks, the Navy has indicated that it plans to end LPD 
production and further delay the Light Amphibious Warship until fiscal 
year 2025. Top Marine officials have stated ``the Marine Corps has a 
requirement for absolutely no less than 31 amphibious warfare ships,'' 
and that the proposed fiscal year 2023 funding plan would shrink the 
amphibious force to just 25 ships in the next five years. Do you 
believe this budget puts the United States Marine Corps on that 
``steady glide path'' you speak of?
    General Milley. The fiscal year 2023 budget enables the Navy and 
Marine Corps team to support all near and mid-term Amphibious Ready 
Group/Marine Expeditionary Unit Global Force Management Operations. The 
Navy has recently completed its amphibious fleet requirement study and 
is going through the review process. We believe the results of the 
study will provide a strategic approach that enables the department to 
support and sustain a continued Marine Corps presence afloat that is 
fully capable of performing its mission essential tasks.

    51. Senator Sullivan. General Milley, in your written statement, 
you write that the PRC, ``intend[s] to be a military peer of the United 
States by 2035, and they intend to develop the military capabilities to 
seize Taiwan by 2027.'' Based on the President's fiscal year 2023 
Budget, the Marine Corps will be well below the amphibious ship 
requirements it identified to execute Expeditionary Advanced Base 
Operations and Stand-In Forces in 2027. Do you believe the acquisition 
schedule for L-class amphibious ships and the Light Amphibious Warship 
positions the Joint Force for success in the event the PRC is indeed 
militarily capable of invading Taiwan in 2027?
    General Milley. The Navy has recently completed its amphibious 
fleet requirement study and is going through the review process. We 
believe the results of the study will provide a strategic approach that 
enables the department to support and sustain a continued Marine Corps 
presence afloat that is fully capable of performing its mission 
essential tasks.
                        arctic strategy funding
    52. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin, during your confirmation 
hearing before this committee last year, I asked if you would commit to 
ensuring that the service Arctic strategies are fully resourced and you 
responded, ``You have my commitment to do that.'' Yet several weeks ago 
in a hearing before this committee, I asked NORTHCOM Commander General 
VanHerck if he had seen adequate funding for the service Arctic 
strategies, to which he responded, ``[w]e have not seen the funding 
that I would like to see with regard to the Arctic.'' In your opinion, 
has funding to execute service Arctic strategies been adequate or 
inadequate since you made that commitment in 2021?
    Secretary Austin. I am confident that our Joint Force is resourced 
to complete our exercises and operations around the world, including in 
the Arctic region. The United States is an Arctic nation, and the 
Department strongly supports efforts to ensure the protection of our 
interests in the Arctic region. As you know, we recently created a new 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Arctic and Global Resilience, 
and last year we announced the establishment of the Ted Stevens Center 
for Arctic Security Studies in Alaska. We will remain focused on the 
Arctic, and I will never hesitate to request more resources if we 
determine that we need them.
    The Department will also continue to work with allies and partners, 
and as part of a whole-of-government approach, to closely monitor our 
competitors' activities in the Arctic and strengthen the rules-based 
order in the region. U.S. activities and posture in the Arctic must be 
calibrated to enable the Department to preserve its overall focus on 
the Indo-Pacific region, but the Department is making key investments 
in enhancing our domain awareness capabilities, including investments 
in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities; early 
warning; weather satellites; and communications, to achieve our 
homeland defense priorities. By improving our capabilities, deepening 
our partnership with Canada in the context of the North American 
Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and working with allies and partners 
to increase shared air and maritime domain awareness, we are sending 
key strategic deterrent messages to our competitors.
                        fiscal year 2023 budget
    53. Senator Sullivan. General Milley, this past Tuesday before the 
House Armed Services Committee you stated, ``[t]his budget assumes an 
inflation rate of 2.2 percent, which is obviously incorrect, because 
it's almost 8 percent. It might go up, it might go down, but most 
forecasts indicate it's going to go up and it could level out at 9 or 
10 percent.'' Given this reality, and the significant loss of 
purchasing power from this recent continuing resolution, do you believe 
the fiscal year 2023 budget is adequate to modernize and grow 
capability to deter and if necessary defeat authoritarian adversaries?
    General Milley. I recommend this question be directed to the 
Secretary of Defense to provide specifics with regards to budget and 
growth capability.
    Protecting our buying power is important. The Department considered 
the impact of inflation when building the budget and affiliated pricing 
assumptions--all in an effort to ensure we have an executable budget 
with the resources needed to implement the NDS. We will do the same in 
future budget cycles to ensure we remain aligned with strategy and 
National Security priorities.
                             mental health
    54. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, as you 
are aware, the issue of suicide has been steadily on the rise nation-
wide in the last decade, and has had an outsized impact on Alaska. For 
U.S. Army Alaska personnel, the problem has been particularly acute. 
Just this past year, 17 soldiers, a number three times the historical 
average, took their own lives. I commend your recent establishment of 
the Suicide Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee, in 
which your Department will review a number of installations, including 
several in Alaska, to determine a comprehensive way forward in 
addressing this issue. Do you believe this budget does enough to 
address the military's mental health provider shortfall?
    Secretary Austin. The loss of one life by suicide is too many. As 
you have heard me say many times, mental health is health. Period.
    We are clearly not where we need to be on suicide prevention, which 
is why we are taking an integrated prevention approach. As you note and 
as Congress directed, we have launched the Suicide Prevention and 
Response Independent Review Committee, and our fiscal year 2023 budget 
request includes $193 million for suicide prevention efforts. We are 
also asking for another $33 million for the Defense Suicide Prevention 
office and $1.4 billion in broader mental health efforts. We are 
focused on primary care behavior health, tele-behavioral health, 
substance abuse, and measures related to traumatic brain injury, post-
traumatic stress, and other mental health conditions. There is also 
more work to do to optimize the use of our behavioral health providers 
to ensure we have the right providers in the right locations. Over the 
next 6 months, the Defense Health Agency (DHA) will work with the 
Military Departments and other DOD partners to finalize a staffing 
model for behavioral health. This staffing model will allow the DOD to 
place the right provider at the right location to meet the behavioral 
health needs for specific military medical treatment facilities (MTFs), 
by determining optimized personnel allocation, by provider type, and by 
supported mission. This will help inform resource allocation and 
personnel authorizations to maximize the behavioral health workforce to 
meet current demand. It may require moving personnel requirements and 
resourcing allocation between DHA Markets and MTFs. This model may also 
require new authorities to recruit and retain all identified personnel 
requirements.
    The staffing model alone will not resolve existing capacity 
shortfalls, but it will allow the Department to have the ability to 
determine what deficiencies exist and inform how to resolve 
constraints. The Department will then be able to leverage technical 
solutions such as virtual behavioral health, optimization of existing 
provider inventory or increasing behavioral healthcare delivery through 
recruitment actions or leveraging existing TRICARE network capability.
    General Milley. Across the Department, our commitment to suicide 
prevention is unwavering. The fiscal year 2023 budget invests $1.4 
billion in clinical mental health programs and initiatives to include 
those which evaluate, treat, and followup with patients with a variety 
of mental health issues. These programs leverage evidence-based best 
practices and treatment, practical problem resolution, case management 
and crisis management to support positive health outcomes. Ongoing 
mental health efforts within the Department include: Primary Care 
Behavioral Health, Tele-Behavioral Health, National Intrepid Center of 
Excellence and Intrepid Spirit Centers, Substance Abuse Program, as 
well as research on mental health aimed to accelerate the innovation 
and delivery of preventive interventions and treatments for TBI, PTSD, 
and other mental health conditions. Flexibility is key to ensuring 
these initiatives, support Service members by reducing barriers to 
receiving support, and target our populations of highest risk.
                lessons from ukraine, applied to taiwan
    55. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, the 
global security picture looks drastically different now than it did in 
February. NATO is more united than ever. The EU is more united than 
ever. Both have taken action in concert with the United States to 
respond to unprovoked Russian aggression against Ukraine through 
sanctions and the shipment of weapons and equipment to Ukraine. The 
Russian economy is staggering and the ruble has plummeted in value. In 
light of this, do you believe Xi Jinping is reevaluating his 
assumptions on Taiwan?
    Secretary Austin. As you point out, the consequences for President 
Putin of his illegal, unjust war have been precisely what he did not 
want: a more unified NATO. I have never seen NATO more united.
    While I believe there are many lessons that will be learned from 
the conflict, I would caution drawing a direct comparison between the 
war in Ukraine and a potential conflict involving Taiwan. What I would 
say, however, is that a lesson that The People's Republic of China 
(PRC) has likely learned from this war is that the United States is 
committed to helping our Allies and partners defend themselves. The PRC 
likely also has learned that the United States can marshal a coalition 
of like-minded nations to respond to aggression wherever it appears. 
President Xi is also likely taking note of the economic costs of 
attacking a neighbor, and of the many challenges the Russian military 
is experiencing in sustaining their forces in conflict.
    General Milley. Yes, Beijing is likely seeking to gain insight from 
Russia's military failures in Ukraine to improve its own capabilities, 
however, there is no evidence that Russia's failed invasion has changed 
Beijing's willingness to use force against Taiwan. While unification 
with Taiwan remains one of Beijing's top priorities, PRC experts are 
evaluating Russia's shortcomings in Ukraine and are assessing potential 
implications for Beijing in a future military conflict.

    56. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, do you 
think the Russian invasion of Ukraine has changed Taiwan's perspective 
on its need to prepare for a PRC invasion?
    Secretary Austin. Over the past 2 years, we have seen increased PLA 
coercion of Taiwan. We remain committed to supporting Taiwan's efforts 
to enhance its self-defense, in accordance with the Taiwan Relations 
Act. Even as Taiwan prioritizes critical defense reforms--including to 
Reserves and Mobilization--our Taiwan partners recognize that they will 
face significant challenges, in sustaining operations and maintaining 
communications if they were in a crisis. We will continue to work with 
our Taiwan partners to improve their capabilities and ability to defend 
themselves in a crisis or conflict.
    General Milley. Taiwan's perception of the risk of a PRC invasion 
has increased since Russia invaded Ukraine, and President Tsai has 
publicly reiterated her commitment to improving Taiwan's asymmetric 
defense capabilities. Taiwan officials recognize Ukraine's battlefield 
successes and emphasized increasing Taipei's production of its own 
indigenous capabilities, including land-attack and anti-ship cruise 
missiles, as well as its Kestrel man-portable light anti-tank weapon.

    57. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, what 
lessons should we take away from failed deterrence in Europe to ensure 
deterrence doesn't fail in the Indo-Pacific?
    Secretary Austin. Let me first say that deterrence has not failed 
in Europe. From the outset, President Biden made clear that our core 
military deterrence objective was to deter an attack on the United 
States or NATO. We have thus far been successful in sustaining and 
strengthening deterrence in support of these priorities and have 
greatly bolstered NATO's territory and its resolve. Our military 
efforts before the invasion also bolstered Ukraine's ability to resist 
a Russian invasion.
    I believe the conflict in Ukraine identified at least four lessons 
learned that demonstrate the value of integrated deterrence. First, a 
combination of Russian military shortcomings and our efforts to 
reinforce NATO's Eastern Flank likely makes NATO's conventional 
deterrent stronger now vis-`-vis Russia than at any time in recent 
decades. Second, our use of intelligence and information operations 
throughout the crisis has demonstrated the value of seizing early 
advantage in the information space. Third, our response--alongside our 
Allies and partners--demonstrated the potency of non-military 
instruments of power and the ability to impose crippling costs on 
Russia. Finally, the conflict demonstrates the utility of collaborating 
with Allies and partners to adopt asymmetric capabilities and 
approaches to improve their ability to deny the military objectives of 
aggressors and to improve resistance. The Department is carefully 
considering how these early lessons may apply to other priority 
challenges.
    General Milley. First, I'd like to clarify that deterrence has not 
failed in Europe in support of United States policy objectives as 
established by the President. Russia has not, and shows no indication 
of attacking a NATO country. While Ukraine is not a member of NATO, the 
United States, through security assistance programs and unprecedented 
intelligence sharing, has assisted Ukraine in building a combat 
credible force that denied Russia a quick victory in its aim to 
dislodge the sitting Ukrainian Government.
    While I caution against drawing similarities between the Russo-
Ukraine War and other scenarios, including Taiwan, we have already 
drawn some fundamental conclusions, none of which are groundbreaking.
    1.  The strength of our military comes from the training and high 
levels of readiness we maintain while conducting exercises to stress 
interoperability with our Allies and Partners. The Russian military is 
a mix of professional and conscript Soldiers with a limited non-
commissioned officer corps which has proven critical. With respect to 
Taiwan and the Indo-pacific, we are leveraging military engagement to 
demonstrate our resolve to states in the region and build the 
collective will amongst likeminded nations to push back against those 
states who seek to disrupt the status quo.
    2.  The United States and likeminded countries around the world 
have moved an unprecedented amount of military equipment to Ukraine 
over the last several weeks. This has been a herculean effort. In 
Ukraine we have benefited from its geography and its borders with NATO 
countries to facilitate the distribution of security assistance. This 
would not be the case in Taiwan where breaking through a sea blockade 
to deliver assistance or providing it via air drop would likely be 
necessary. Therefore, we must have critical capabilities and military 
training before conflict begins. To that end, the Taiwan Relations Act 
provides the authority for the DOD provides arms and services of a 
defensive nature commensurate to the PLA threat. Through our 
observations of the war in Ukraine and increasing PRC gray zone 
activities, we're looking into ways to expedite the transfer of 
critical capabilities to Taiwan that will improve and modernize 
Taiwan's military--particularly asymmetric capabilities that will 
enable Taiwan to delay, degrade, and deny a PRC invasion.
    3.  Last, we saw in the case of Ukraine, the decision to rapidly 
declassify our intelligence was essential in quickly building support 
among our allies and partners. A similar approach would be useful in 
building international support to help defend Taiwan early against 
Chinese military aggression.
    Successfully implementing integrated deterrence in the Indo-Pacific 
requires us to do these things and more in day-to-day competition with 
China and far left of any conflict.

    58. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, from Xi 
Jinping's predatory economic initiatives, repeated neighbor-nation 
coercion, and brutal repression of individual freedoms; to now Vladimir 
Putin's heinous invasion of Ukraine, there is little doubt that we are 
now in a new era of authoritarian aggression. This aggression spans the 
entire spectrum of conflict, from open military warfare to gray zone 
activities below the threshold of armed conflict. The central tenet of 
the newly published National Defense Strategy aimed to counter this 
spectrum of conflict is ``integrated deterrence'', which you define as, 
``working seamlessly across military domains and the spectrum of 
conflict, using all instruments of U.S. national power and our 
extraordinary network of alliances and partnerships.'' Do you believe 
integrated deterrence failed its first test in Ukraine?
    Secretary Austin. No, I do not believe integrated deterrence failed 
in Ukraine. From the outset, President Biden made clear that our core 
military deterrence objective was to deter an attack on the United 
States or NATO. We have thus far been successful in sustaining and 
strengthening deterrence in support of these priorities and have 
greatly bolstered NATO's territory and its resolve. Our military 
efforts before the invasion also bolstered Ukraine's ability to resist 
a Russian invasion.
    General Milley. Integrated deterrence is and will continue to 
impose costs on Russia. Militarily, Ukraine is defending their 
sovereignty with a combat credible force. Allies and partners are 
united in providing Security Force Assistance while imposing harsh 
economic sanctions on Russia. This is integrated deterrence in action.

    59. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, how do 
we ensure our integrated deterrence efforts are successful in the Indo-
Pacific?
    Secretary Austin. Integrated deterrence first and foremost is about 
having the most dominant, combat-credible force in all domains. It is 
also about drawing on the strengths of our Allies and partners, who are 
force multipliers in our efforts to deter aggression and prevail in 
conflict and using all instruments of national power to deter a 
competitor or adversary across the spectrum of competition and 
conflict. Implementing integrated deterrence--including in the Indo-
Pacific region--requires being cognizant of competitor deterrence 
calculus and being disciplined and focused on advancing our defense 
priorities. In the Indo-Pacific region, for example, the Department 
will bolster deterrence by leveraging existing and emergent force 
capabilities, posture, and presence. Collaboration with Allies and 
partners will cement joint capability with the aid of multilateral 
exercises, co-development of technologies, greater information sharing, 
and combined planning on shared deterrence challenges. We will also 
build enduring advantages by undertaking foundational improvements and 
enhancements in our technological edge and combat credibility.
    General Milley. We continue to enhance our force posture, 
infrastructure, presence, and readiness levels in the Indo-Pacific 
region. We must ensure that we have sufficient military and economic 
power when combined with our allies and partners. Last, we must shape 
our desired outcomes concerning the PRC without escalating to armed 
conflict between our two nations.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                         hypersonic technology
    60. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, do you agree with General 
Hyten that the U.S. is lagging in hypersonic development due to not 
testing systems until being highly confident in their capabilities? How 
does the Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget Request offset this?
    Secretary Austin. First, I would say that what the Department 
requires is the right mix of capabilities to match our warfighting 
concepts and our strategy. In some cases, that will involve hypersonic 
and directed energy capabilities. That is why you saw us include $7.2 
billion to the fiscal year 2023 budget request for long-range fires, 
including hypersonic and highly survivable sub-sonic weapons. You also 
saw us bring together a group of industry leaders early in this 
Administration to focus our efforts on hypersonic technology. We can 
and should move more rapidly on this front. The hypersonics program is 
energized to conduct flight tests early and often to accelerate the 
pace of development by emphasizing that testing is not a function of 
program failure, but instead is an opportunity to learn early and 
succeed sooner. We believe that this approach will increase confidence 
and lead to more rapid fielding of systems.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request and FYDP continue to 
significantly invest in our ground and flight test infrastructure to 
enable an increased pace of developmental and operational testing for 
hypersonic systems. With the Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget, by 
fiscal year 2027 the Department will have invested $1.4 billion in 
hypersonic test improvements to enhance capability and increase 
throughput.

    61. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, what is the value of a 
hypersonic test--both practically to the U.S., and from a deterrence 
perspective to our adversaries?
    Secretary Austin. The Department tests systems under development to 
reduce risk. The progression of testing from modeling and simulation to 
ground testing to full-system flight testing gives us the confidence 
necessary to safely field an operationally effective weapon system.
    From a deterrence perspective, a flight test provides evidence of 
the Nation's commitment to aggressively develop and transition this 
significant warfighting capability. As we increase the pace of testing, 
this commitment will become even clearer.

    62. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, where does the U.S. rank 
on the global stage regarding hypersonic testing frequency?
    Secretary Austin. We have gone from conducting flight tests once 
every couple of years to 17 scheduled flight tests this fiscal year. 
Our pace of testing is based on the number of systems we have in 
development and the stage of development for those systems. The 
Department is focused on acquiring the right mix of capabilities to 
match our warfighting concepts and our strategy. In some cases, that 
will involve hypersonic and directed energy capabilities. That is why 
you saw us include $7.2 billion to the fiscal year 2023 budget request 
for long-range fires, including hypersonic and highly survivable sub-
sonic weapons. You also saw us bring together a group of industry 
leaders early in this Administration to focus our efforts on hypersonic 
technology. We can and should move more rapidly on this front.
                                nuclear
    63. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, why was the SLICM-N 
cancelled?
    Secretary Austin. The Administration considered a variety of 
regional deterrence contingencies as part of the 2022 Nuclear Posture 
Review, which affirmed the need to deter limited nuclear use by 
adversaries. We already field capabilities intended to address these 
scenarios, including the recently introduced W76-2 low-yield submarine-
launched ballistic missile, the B61-12 gravity bomb delivered by dual-
capable aircraft, and the existing air-launched cruise missile that 
will eventually be replaced by the modernized Long-Range Standoff 
Weapon. Given the deterrence contributions of these capabilities, the 
nuclear weapons-capable sea-launched cruise missile (SLCM-N) program 
was canceled, considering its marginal utility, its estimated cost in 
light of other nuclear modernization and defense priorities, and the 
fact that it could not be delivered before the 2030's.

    64. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, how does the PBR 
facilitate a complete nuclear modernization program that deters our 
adversaries?
    Secretary Austin. The nuclear triad remains the bedrock of our 
national security. That is why the President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget 
invests $34.4 billion in Nuclear Enterprise Modernization. This request 
reflects full funding for recapitalization of all three legs of the 
nuclear triad, as well as modernization of U.S. nuclear command, 
control, and communications (NC3) systems. Above all, the President's 
Budget supports a modern, safe, secure, and effective nuclear 
deterrent, and strong and credible extended deterrence.
                 diversity, equity, and inclusion (dei)
    65. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, what are the objectives of 
the Department of Defense's study concerning ``nonbinary'' people 
serving in the military? Who is involved in this study?
    Secretary Austin. The Institute of Defense Analysis is currently 
conducting a study to collect information on a range of issues, 
regarding our existing personnel policies and systems.

    66. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, do you believe the 
Department can allow nonbinary people to serve in the military without 
Congressional authorization?
    Secretary Austin. DOD is authorized to establish qualifications for 
military service.

    67. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, how much has the President 
requested for each Service's fiscal year 2023 DEI initiatives?
    China
    Secretary Austin. Our greatest strategic advantage over our 
competitors and adversaries is the strength of our people. That is why 
the Department is working every day to recruit and retain the best 
talent--because America's military should look like the country we 
serve. A key to retaining talent is to ensure that every service member 
has pathways of opportunity. As part of our DEI efforts, this year the 
Department launched a series of focused reviews on key points in the 
military career cycle--accessions, mid-career, and pathways to senior 
leadership--to provide actionable insights for the Department on how to 
recruit and retain a diverse force.
    With respect to funding, the Department's diversity and inclusion 
initiatives are funded through various programs administered by the 
Military Departments and other DOD Components. The Department's fiscal 
year 2023 budget request includes a total of $87 million for diversity 
and inclusion activities, including $8 million for the Office for 
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, $53 million for the Defense Human 
Resources Activity, $4 million for the Department of the Army, $7 
million for the Department of the Navy, and $15 million for the 
Department of the Air Force. We will continue to invest in our people, 
who are the most critical element of our success.

    68. Senator Blackburn. General Milley, does the Biden 
administration budget address the current assessment of the 
advancements made by the People's Liberation Army (PLA)?
    General Milley. I am confident that the President's Budget request 
adequately provides for the defense of our Nation. Specifically, the 
fiscal year 2023 Budget includes $276 billion in our investment 
accounts for procurement and R&D to modernize the Joint Force in order 
to deter, and if necessary, prevail in conflict. While we continue to 
modernize the Joint Force to pace the future challenge from China, this 
budget also sustains the capability, capacity, and readiness to respond 
to aggression from any adversary today.

    69. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, considering the department 
has identified China as the pacing threat, what shortfalls do you 
identify in the PBR's ability to meet this threat?
    Secretary Austin. The President's Budget request for fiscal year 
2023 is robust and fully aligned with the new National Defense 
Strategy, which identifies the urgent need to sustain and strengthen 
deterrence across domains, theaters, and the spectrum of conflict, with 
the People's Republic of China (PRC) as the Department's pacing 
challenge. Our strategy, resources, and capabilities are aligned to our 
priorities which we will advance through the lines of effort described 
in the National Defense Strategy: integrated deterrence, campaigning, 
and building enduring advantages. To this end, the budget request 
includes $6.1 billion in the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI), and 
we are making other investments outside PDI that are broadly applicable 
to the PRC. For example, other investments in operations, maintenance, 
research and development, and procurement that are not included in PDI 
will also help advance our priorities in the Indo-Pacific region and 
beyond.
                               inflation
    70. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Austin, how does the 
administration's failure to account for record high inflation impact 
our Reserve and Guard Forces?
    Secretary Austin. This is a significant defense budget and one that 
buys us tremendous capability. As you know, the President's budget was 
finalized last year and the chalk was snapped, so to speak, on some 
economic assumptions, which is how budgets are built. We will continue 
to watch inflation closely, to ensure we have the buying power to 
deliver the military capabilities we believe we need to support our 
warfighting concepts, and to take care of the total Force. If I feel I 
need more resources, I will not hesitate to request them.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                  defense strategy and prioritization
    71. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Ely Ratner testified before 
the House Armed Services Committee on March 9, 2022, ``With China as 
the pacing challenge, Taiwan is the pacing scenario, driven by a 
strategy of denial.'' \1\ Can you confirm that ``Taiwan is the pacing 
scenario'' for the Department of Defense, as Dr. Ratner testified?
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    Secretary Austin. The People's Republic of China (PRC) is our most 
consequential strategic competitor and the pacing challenge for the 
Department. A PRC invasion of Taiwan is a key pacing scenario for the 
Department of Defense.

    72. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, you've written for the record 
that ``a combat-credible, forward deterrent posture is instrumental to 
the U.S. military's ability to deter, and if necessary, deny a fait 
accompli scenario.'' Is this still your view?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. To deter aggression, especially where 
potential adversaries are positioned for rapid seizure of territory, 
the Department must ensure we have credible capabilities and 
warfighting concepts necessary to deny aggressors the ability to 
achieve their objectives. Ultimately, integrated deterrence is enabled 
by combat-credible forces postured to fight and win, and backstopped by 
a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent.

    73. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, does the 2022 National 
Defense Strategy retain the Global Operating Model from the 2018 NDS 
and, if not, does the Department remain committed to maintaining its 
ability to delay, degrade, and deny a Chinese fait accompli against 
Taiwan from the outset of such a conflict?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is focused on ensuring we have 
credible capabilities and the right concepts to enable us to prevail 
against aggression, including in rapid fait accompli scenarios. The 
2022 National Defense Strategy prioritizes the PRC as our most 
consequential strategic competitor and the pacing challenge for the 
Department.
                              simultaneity
    74. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin and General Milley, is it fair 
to say that many of the capabilities we'd use in a fight against 
China--or withhold to deter Chinese opportunistic aggression--are 
capabilities that would no longer be available to deter or defeat 
Russian aggression and that, as a result, it will be essential for our 
NATO allies to take on a larger share of the burden of deterring 
Russia?
    Secretary Austin. The 2022 National Defense Strategy prioritizes 
the PRC as our most consequential strategic competitor and the pacing 
challenge for the Department and notes that Russia is an acute threat. 
In both cases, our Allies and partners remain a force multiplier for 
the United States along the spectrum of competition and conflict. The 
United States will always be ready to address aggression from multiple 
quarters through the full spectrum of its capabilities and in concert 
with our Allies and partners.
    General Milley. Our commitments as outlined in the Taiwan Relations 
Act, Three Communiques, and Six Assurances remain unchanged. Our 
support for Taiwan remains strong, principled, bipartisan, and in line 
with our one-China policy and longstanding commitments. We are ready to 
confront all adversaries with a graduated, dynamic employment of the 
Joint Force to achieve our National Security objectives. Our alliances 
and partnerships are key to maintaining the rules-based international 
order, and in both Europe and the Indo-Pacific they are the linchpin of 
our strategy of integrated deterrence. We have both sustained our 
strong posture and are taking truly unprecedented steps to strengthen 
our alliances and partnerships.
    The United States will continue to ensure our NATO allies have the 
forces necessary to deter, or if necessary, defeat Russian aggression. 
Putin's actions in Ukraine have solidified NATO's purpose and 
invigorated Allies into taking renewed interests in their military 
investment and capabilities. While the United States will maintain its 
commitments in Europe, we will prioritize the development of systems 
critical to the security of the INDOPACOM theater. These advances will 
increase military advantages in both theaters.
                             defense budget
    75. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, the Department has said that 
``campaigning'' is a core element of the 2022 National Defense 
Strategy. Why then is there $437 million for theater campaigning on 
INDOPACOM's unfunded requirements list?
    Secretary Austin. Our National Defense Strategy lays out what I 
have said many times since I joined the Department as Secretary of 
Defense, which is that China is our number one pacing challenge. United 
States Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) is an integral part of how we 
address the challenges posed by the People's Republic of China, and I 
am proud of the work our team at USINDOPACOM continues to do to deter 
aggression and protect our interests in the region. Well-disciplined 
campaigning is critical to advancing our priorities in the Indo-Pacific 
region. In support of this effort, the President's Budget request for 
fiscal year 2023 would fund $276 million of USINDOPACOM's Section 1242 
request of $712.7 million for campaigning. This is the maximum amount 
of funding that DOD determined it could execute feasibly with available 
forces and without degrading the readiness of the Joint Force. Joint 
Force readiness is foundational to integrated deterrence, and the 
budget request includes almost $135 billion to enhance the readiness of 
the Military Services, with ready forces available for allocation to 
USINDOPACOM if required. The budget request also includes $540 million 
(designated as PDI) for exercises, experimentation, and innovation, 
which will also contribute to campaigning within USINDOPACOM.

    76. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, the budget request shrinks 
our naval battle force from 298 ships today to 280 in fiscal year 2027, 
when many agree that the risk of Chinese invasion of Taiwan will be 
especially high. How does DOD plan to make up for this loss of 
capacity, so we have the naval forces we need to ensure deterrence 
holds through this critical period?
    Secretary Austin. We have today and will continue to have in the 
future the most dominant navy in the world. We are focused on acquiring 
the right mix of capabilities that are matched to our warfighting 
concepts and our strategy. The Department's fiscal year 2023 
shipbuilding and maritime systems program budget request of $40.8 
billion supports a broad range of forces, including aircraft carriers, 
submarines, surface combatants, and support ships. This budget makes 
significant investments in our Navy--including funding the Columbia-
class nuclear submarine, two DDGs, amphibious ships, and a new frigate. 
The Navy is retiring some ships that are near the end of their service 
life--or, in the case of Littoral Combat Ships, the Navy is retiring 
some hulls to invest shipbuilding dollars in more lethal capabilities.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget delivers many new capabilities within 
the FYDP (fiscal year 2023 to 2027), including DDG 1000 with 
Conventional Prompt Strike, DDG Flt III with the Air and Missile 
Defense Radar, XLUUV autonomous underwater vehicle, Maritime Strike 
Tomahawk, MQ-4 maritime surveillance drone, and MQ-25 aerial refueling 
drone.

    77. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, has the Department decided to 
prioritize posture investments in the Indo-Pacific over analogous 
investments in other theaters?
    Secretary Austin. The Global Posture Review (GPR) established the 
Indo-Pacific region as the priority region for DOD posture investments. 
The 2022 National Defense Strategy further reinforced this 
prioritization. In implementing this guidance, DOD will continue 
balancing emergent near-term requirements--such as reinforcing NATO in 
response to Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine--with its focus on 
the People's Republic of China as the pacing challenge.

    78. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, if the Department has decided 
to prioritize posture investments in the Indo-Pacific over analogous 
investments in other theaters, then why does INDOPACOM's unfunded 
requirements list include $47.6 million for unfunded military 
construction projects and another $260 million for a Joint Program 
Office to facilitate timely delivery of INDOPACOM posture improvements?
    Secretary Austin. Prioritizing posture investments in the Indo-
Pacific region is a key element of DOD's strategic approach of focusing 
on the People's Republic of China as the pacing challenge. DOD is laser 
focused on advancing these initiatives, which require detailed 
logistical and resource planning, assessment of political-military 
considerations, and in many cases, formal negotiation with host nations 
to secure access, basing, and overflight permissions before 
construction can commence. As an example, the highest value military 
construction projects on USINDOPACOM's Unfunded Priorities List were 
proposals for Papua New Guinea, a country where the United States 
Government is still working to secure the required bilateral 
agreements.
    The President's Budget request for fiscal year 2023 makes 
substantial investments in the Indo Pacific. For example, the fiscal 
year 2023 budget funds $276 million of USINDOPACOM's Section 1242 
request of $712.7 million for campaigning. This is the maximum amount 
of funding that DOD determined it could execute feasibly with available 
forces and without degrading the readiness of the Joint Force. Joint 
Force readiness is foundational to integrated deterrence, and the 
fiscal year 2023 budget request includes almost $135 billion to enhance 
the readiness of the Military Services, with ready forces available for 
allocation to USINDOPACOM if required. The budget request also includes 
$540 million (designated as PDI) for exercises, experimentation, and 
innovation, which will also contribute to campaigning within 
USINDOPACOM.
                               munitions
    79. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, how many years will it take 
us to reach requirements for preferred munitions in our priority 
theaters at current levels of production?
    Secretary Austin. This is an area that I am closely monitoring, 
particularly as we draw down stocks in support of Ukraine's self-
defense. We will continue to keep the Congress informed if we believe 
we require any authorities or resources to strengthen our munitions 
stocks.
    As a general matter, the Department performs a portfolio-based 
review of munitions annually based on the Munitions Requirements 
Process to inform the budget process. The current proposed munitions 
levels for fiscal year 2023 align with Department budget priorities. 
Your support in funding the President's Budget request will ensure we 
have the level of munitions we need to support our objectives.

    80. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, are there any preferred 
munitions that could be produced a higher rate than what is reflected 
in the budget request, and if so, which are they?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is constantly working with our 
industry partners to determine what surge capacity is needed to help 
sustain readiness. The defense industrial base has the ability to 
support demand level changes and urgent wartime requirements through 
current maximum production rates and ongoing coordination with the 
Department's industrial policy and acquisition experts. As industry 
continues working to resolve the obsolescence and supply chain issues 
that challenge manufacturing sectors around the globe, now more than 
ever, we need to send a consistent demand signal on U.S. munitions 
requirements and those of our allies and partners. Authorities and 
programs such as the Department's Critical Munitions Acquisition Fund 
will aid the Department in ensuring the health of the defense 
industrial base and the immediate availability of critical munitions.

    81. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, General Milley, and Secretary 
McCord, has the Department done an analysis to identify capabilities 
that would be in high demand in both Asia and Europe in the event of 
simultaneous conflicts, and if so, can you provide a list of those 
capabilities to this committee?
    Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord. Yes, we have conducted 
analysis that highlights key capabilities from both a near-term and 
long-term perspective that would be in high demand in each warfight. We 
can provide more information at a higher classification level. We are 
continually updating and refining our analysis as we experiment with 
innovative concepts and capabilities.
    General Milley. Our National Defense Strategy is centered on 
deterring our adversaries from entering this type of hypothetical 
scenario. Current NDS drives toward a single engagement and deter in 
others. This Integrated Deterrence will develop and combine our 
strengths by working seamlessly across warfighting domains, theaters, 
the spectrum of conflict, the other instruments of U.S. national power, 
and our unmatched network of Alliances and partnerships. To backstop 
Integrated Deterrence, we must continue to develop capabilities in 
accordance with our Joint Warfighting Concept to deter, and to win the 
next war, if required. The Fiscal Year 2023 Long Range Fires invests 
$7.2 billion in Conventional Prompt Strike, Hypersonic Air-launched 
Cruise Missiles, Long Range Hypersonic Weapons, Joint Air and Surface 
Standoff Missiles, Long Range Anti-ship Missile, and Guided Multiple 
Launch Rocket System.
                           nuclear deterrence
    82. Senator Hawley. Secretary Austin, why did the Administration 
cut the nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missile over the objections 
of General Milley, the STRATCOM Commander, and the EUCOM Commander?
    Secretary Austin. The Administration considered a variety of 
regional deterrence contingencies as part of the 2022 Nuclear Posture 
Review, which affirmed the need to deter limited nuclear use by 
adversaries. We already field capabilities intended to address these 
scenarios, including the recently introduced W76-2 low-yield submarine-
launched ballistic missile, the B61-12 gravity bomb delivered by dual-
capable aircraft, and the existing air-launched cruise missile that 
will eventually be replaced by the modernized Long-Range Standoff 
Weapon. Given the deterrence contributions of these capabilities, the 
nuclear weapons-capable sea-launched cruise missile (SLCM-N) program 
was canceled, considering its marginal utility, its estimated cost in 
light of other nuclear modernization and defense priorities, and the 
fact that it could not be delivered until the 2030's.
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  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                          TUESDAY, MAY 3, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                           AIR FORCE POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Gillibrand, 
Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, and 
Hawley.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets this 
morning to receive testimony on the plans and programs of the 
Department of the Air Force in review of the fiscal year 2023 
President's Defense Budget Request.
    I would like to welcome our witnesses: Mr. Frank Kendall, 
Secretary of the Air Force; General Charles Brown, Chief of 
Staff of the Air Force; and General John Raymond, Chief of 
Space Operations. We are grateful to the men and women of the 
Air Force and Space Force for their service, and to their 
families for their continued support.
    President Biden's defense budget request for fiscal year 
2023 includes approximately $234 billion in funding for the Air 
Force, an increase of $13.5 billion from the fiscal year 2022 
enacted budget. In preparing this budget request, the Air Force 
faced difficult decisions in balancing the need to modernize 
and keep technological advantage over near-peer competitors 
against the need to support ongoing operations around the 
world. The budget before us aims to maintain that balance by 
increasing funding to address readiness concerns while also 
funding technologies for the future fight and modernizing our 
strategic deterrent capability.
    The budget request for the Air Force would include 
additional investments in capabilities such as Next Generation 
Air Dominance, the B-21, Long-Range Stand-Off Weapons, 
hypersonics, and Air and Ground Moving Target Indication. These 
changes are part of continuing to implement General Brown's 
strategic vision of ``Accelerate Change or Lose.'' During 
today's hearing I hope we will hear more on the programs that 
have received increased emphasis under the Chief's vision.
    The budget request also proposes to retire or realign 
various elements of the Air Force, with a net reduction of 
roughly 370 aircraft in fiscal year 2023. This would include 
reducing or altering the force structure for A-10s, F-16s, F-
15s, F-22s, C-130s, KC-135s, KC-10s, JSTARS aircraft, AWACS 
aircraft, and MQ-9 Reaper remotely piloted aircraft. Any 
proposal of this sort deserves our careful consideration. I 
hope the witnesses will provide the Committee with reasoning 
for the proposed retirements and realignments within this 
budget request and assures that any decisions are well thought 
out before disruptions to the force structure begin.
    We will have to evaluate these proposals against the 
backdrop of the conflict in Ukraine. First, this conflict 
causes many of us concern about retiring weapons systems that 
could actually be required in the very near term. Second, we 
need to be sure that we maintain or increase our stocks of 
munitions, spare parts, and other elements of the sustainment 
portfolio to ensure we are sufficiently prepared to deter any 
aggressors. Third, we need to evaluate our domestic industrial 
base to avoid making short-sighted decisions that could harm 
our Nation's ability to provide for our defense. I am 
interested to know your thoughts on these matters, as well as 
your plans to improve shortfalls within the pilot and 
maintenance personnel communities.
    Turning to the Space Force, Congress established the Space 
Force with the purpose of consolidating numerous space 
activities in the Department of Defense (DOD). General Raymond, 
I would like to know how you are growing the service in terms 
of personnel. I am also interested in an update on how you are 
normalizing operations within the larger Department of Defense, 
including progress on the merging of the Space Development 
Agency into the Space Force by October 1, 2022.
    With regard to space warfighting capabilities, section 1602 
of the Fiscal Year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act 
required the Secretary of Defense to designate the Chief of 
Space Operations as the force design architect for future 
satellite constellations of the armed services. It is critical 
for the Space Force to design its warfighting objectives in the 
same way the Chief of Naval Operations designs our Navy fleets 
and the Chief of the Air Force designs our air posture. I will 
want to know your progress toward that objective.
    Finally, now that the Space Force is up and running, it is 
important to present a trained force with substantive 
capabilities to the combatant commands. One of the capabilities 
for the combatant commands now under discussion is tactical 
space intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, ISR. This 
is a new operating domain for the Defense Department, and I 
would ask the witnesses to discuss what resources they believe 
are needed to ensure its success.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond, 
thank you again for appearing before our committee and I look 
forward to your testimony.
    With that let me recognize the Ranking Member, Senator 
Inhofe.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I join you in 
welcoming our three witnesses today.
    I will get right to it. I have reviewed the new 2022 
National Defense Strategy, and I have examined the budget. I 
have attended multiple threat briefings--Secretary Kendall, I 
was sorry to miss one of yours but I made all the rest of 
them--and they did not paint a very optimistic picture of what 
we are faced with.
    So, I do not understand how this Air Force budget even 
begins to resource the strategy. First, inflation is the new 
sequestration. It is destroying your buying power, and the 
salaries of your servicemembers. That is definitely true in 
2022, and probably true in 2023.
    Second, there is simply not enough in this budget to 
reverse the trends we hear about in classified sessions. That 
is particularly true over the next 5 to 7 years. This budget 
divests 1,500 aircraft and buys 500. You know, the math does 
not work out.
    Let us take one example. The budget retires almost 31--
well, there are 31 total of the AWACS of which 31 are in 
Oklahoma and I think some are forward deployed, maybe 5 or 6, 
and that is one example of where we are right now, and when the 
replacement will not come online until 2027. I have always been 
in favor of divesting aircraft when it makes sense and we can 
mitigate the risk. But we are not mitigating the risk unless we 
move much, much faster than we are moving today.
    I appreciate your decision to pursue a sole-source of the 
E-7 Wedgetail. I look forward to working with you to use 
existing authorities to get this critical capability as soon as 
possible.
    Another, this budget buys only 33 F-35As, the lowest since 
sequestration. These Block 4 aircraft will be the cornerstone 
of our fleet, new allies and partners are joining the program, 
and our commanders and pilots tell us they love the aircraft 
and they love to fly it.
    We are still buying multiple air munitions at very low 
rates. We are buying tankers at very low rates, despite 
concerns about contested logistics. I could go on and on, but 
you get the idea.
    Just to be clear, I am not blaming you. The three witnesses 
today, they are not to be blamed on this. I do not want that to 
be misunderstood. This is what is happening when you get an 
arbitrary topline, when the budget just does not match the 
strategy. It is not strategy-based budgeting.
    There are bright spots in the Air Force budget. Nuclear 
modernization is proceeding well. The B-21 and Next-Generation 
Air Dominance are significant success stories. But most of the 
bright spots share one thing in common. That is they are 10 
years away.
    I am proud of what the Space Force has been able to achieve 
with real budget growth since its standup. We find they are 
moving a fleet to meet the threat in space.
    Now here is something that was significant because we could 
go today. We had a hearing here in this chamber and we had 
David Berteau. I am going to use this quote as often as I can 
to remind people, we can sit around and talk about what I just 
did in an opening statement, but when it gets down to it, 
though, we really should be talking about what China is doing.
    His quote, David Berteau, a week ago today, said, ``It 
takes today 3 years to do what China can do in 3 days in terms 
of deciding, resourcing, and getting started on something that 
needs to be done, particularly bringing new technology into 
play.'' That is a significant thing here. You know, how far 
behind we are, we are getting further behind, and I think we 
discussed why this is happening, and this is the thing that we 
need to be addressing.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Now let me recognize Secretary Kendall. Secretary Kendall, 
please.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE FRANK KENDALL III, SECRETARY OF THE 
                           AIR FORCE

    Mr. Kendall. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and Members of the Committee. I am honored to have 
General Brown and General Raymond join me in representing the 
nearly 700,000 airmen and guardians that defend our Nation. We 
are all thankful for your consistent support over the years.
    Speaking in 1940, General Douglas MacArthur said the 
following: ``The history of failure in war can almost be summed 
up in two words: too late. Too late in comprehending the deadly 
purpose of a potential enemy, too late in realizing the mortal 
danger, too late in preparedness, too late in uniting all 
possible forces for resistance, and too late in standing with 
one's friends.''
    I believe MacArthur made this comment after France fell to 
Nazi Germany and their aggression but before the attack on 
Pearl Harbor drew the United States into a war in Asia, a time 
that, in some ways, may be analogous to our own.
    What my colleagues and I are trying to do, and what we need 
your help with, is to ensure that America's Air and Space 
Forces are never too late in meeting our pacing challenge, 
which is China. We are also concerned about the now obvious and 
acute threat of Russian aggression.
    Many of you have heard the China threat briefing that we 
presented. It lays out China's efforts to develop and field 
forces that can defeat our ability to project power in the 
Western Pacific. China is also significantly increasing its 
nuclear weapon inventory and working to field long-range strike 
capabilities that can put our Homeland at risk.
    Today we will say more about how the Department of the Air 
Force is responding to that threat through our fiscal year 2023 
budget and through future budgets. Our budgetary submission 
provides a balance between the capabilities we need today and 
investment in transformation required to address emerging 
threats. With the requested budget, the Air and Space Forces 
will be able to support our combatant commanders in the 
continuing campaigns that demonstrate our resolve and support 
and encourage our allies and partners around the world. 
Simultaneously, our fiscal year 2023 budget represents a 
significant early step in the transformation of the Air and 
Space Forces to the capabilities needed to provide enduring 
advantage.
    An important feature of our budget request is a substantial 
increase in research and development funding. This investment 
is a down payment on production and sustainment investments and 
hard choices that are yet to come.
    We are comfortable with the balance struck in this budget 
submission. We also want to ensure the committee understands 
that hard choices do lie ahead at any budget level. In this 
request we are asking for divestiture of equipment that is 
beyond its service life, too expensive to sustain, and not 
effective against the pacing challenge. These divestitures are 
necessary to provide the resources required to transform the 
Department of the Air Force to support integrated deterrence. 
We appreciate the committee's support for the divestitures 
requested last year, and we ask for your support for these we 
are requesting this year and those in the future.
    Change is hard but losing is unacceptable, and we cannot 
afford to be too late.
    The work we have ongoing in the Department of the Air Force 
to define the necessary transformation is focused on seven 
operational imperatives, each of which is associated with some 
aspect of our ability to project power. As of today there 
should be no doubt that great power acts of aggression do 
occur, and equally no doubt of how devastating they can be to 
the victims of that aggression and for the global community.
    First, if the Space Force is to fulfill its mission of 
enabling and protecting the Joint Force we must pivot to 
transformational space architectures and systems. In fiscal 
year 2023, we are asking for funding to begin the 
transformation to resilient missile warning and tracking and to 
resilient communications networks.
    Second, we must integrate and officially employ Air and 
Space Forces as part of a highly lethal Joint Force to advance 
battle management system, or ABMS. This budget continues 
funding for the early increments of ABMS and the ongoing work 
that will define the additional investments the Department 
needs to cost-effectively modernize our command control of 
communications and battle management networks.
    Third, to defeat aggression we must have the ability to 
hold large numbers of air and surface targets at risk in a 
time-compressed scenario. This budget funds the E-7 Wedgetail 
as an interim AWACS replacement, while supporting work to 
define the transformation to a resilient combination of air and 
space intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting 
systems.
    Fourth, our control of the air is being challenged and we 
must proceed to an affordable, next-generation air dominance 
family of systems. The budget increases funding for the NGAD 
[next-generation air dominance] family of systems to include a 
sixth-generation crewed platform, and an uncrewed, unmanned 
combat aircraft.
    Fifth, you must have resilient forward basing for our 
tactical air forces. This budget continues funding for agile 
combat employment in both the Indo-Pacific and European 
regions, while we define the most cost-effective mix of 
hardening, active defense, deception, and dispersion.
    Sixth, we must ensure the long-term viability and cost-
effectiveness of our global strike capability. This budget 
begins the transition of the B-21 from development to 
production, and it continues the work to define a more 
extensive global strike family of systems that also includes 
uncrewed aircraft.
    Finally, the Department of the Air Force must be fully 
ready to transition to a wartime posture against a peer 
competitor. In particular, we must strengthen our cybersecurity 
and our resilience against attack on the information systems 
and facilities that we depend upon to go to war.
    Members of the Committee, I look forward to your support as 
we work to ensure that America's Air and Space Forces are never 
too late. One team, one fight.
    We absolutely look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    Let me now recognize General Brown, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL CHARLES BROWN, CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE AIR 
                             FORCE

    General Brown. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and Distinguished Members of this Committee. It is an 
honor to appear before you and represent the 689,000 total 
force airmen serving today. Thank you for your continued 
support to our airmen and their families.
    I appreciate the opportunity to be here today with 
Secretary Kendall and General Raymond to testify on the fiscal 
year 2023 budget submission, a budget that continues to 
accelerate the Air Force's rate of change to address the 
security challenges articulated in the National Defense 
Strategy, a budget that continues to build on the successes of 
fiscal year 2022.
    The United States Air Force is a leading example. Our 
airmen make air power look easy. It is anything but. A world-
class Air Force requires world-class airmen that are organized, 
trained, and equipped to remain the world's most respected Air 
Force. But if we do not continue to transform this may no 
longer be the case. We must continue to communicate and 
collaborate with this committee and key stakeholders so we can 
accelerate change.
    Last year's budget communicated the Air Force the Nation 
needs for 2030 and beyond. Our message has not changed for 
fiscal year 2023, and it will not change in future budget 
submissions. We must modernize to counter strategic 
competitors. The PRC [People's Republic of China] remains our 
pacing challenge and Russia remains our acute threat, so we 
must balance between the demands of today and the requirements 
of tomorrow. Failure to do so puts our ability to execute the 
National Defense Strategy at risk. It puts soldiers, sailors, 
marines, guardians, and airmen, along with allies and partners, 
at risk. It puts our ability to place air power anytime, 
anywhere at risk.
    The only way our Air Force and the Nation will be 
successful balancing risk between today and tomorrow is if we 
collaborate. In fact, collaboration is the critical work in 
``Accelerate Change or Lose.'' We are beginning to see the 
success of our collaboration efforts towards transitioning to 
the future.
    This year's budget brought substantial increases to 
research and development, focused on placing meaningful 
military capability into the hands of airmen. Investments in 
systems and concepts allow Air Force to penetrate and dominate 
in any scenario. This is as important as our investment 
efforts. We have been successful beginning to divest systems 
that are increasingly irrelevant against today and tomorrow's 
threats.
    We did not do this alone. Support of Congress is much 
appreciated.
    Accelerating change is the impetus behind the Department of 
the Air Force's operational imperatives. This means moving with 
a sense of urgency and doing so in the right direction. This 
year's National Defense Strategy provides us the needed 
direction, and when you combine the operational imperatives in 
the National Defense Strategy you see this year's budget is an 
alignment with what our Nation demands of our Air Force.
    The Air Force we are building is critical to integrate 
deterrence, campaigning, and building enduring advantages. 
Because nuclear deterrence is the backstop of any deterrence, 
this year's budget ensures our nuclear portfolios are fully 
funded. Current events are emblematic of how our Air Force is 
campaigning. We deployed Air Force assets within days, shared 
vital information, and increased interoperability with our 
allies and partners.
    Finally, the Air Force is investing in enduring advantages 
that allow us to defend the Homeland, project air power 
globally, and operate as joint allied and partner force. More 
than anyone, I want tomorrow's airmen to be ready to respond 
when our Nation calls. This includes investing in programs that 
allow all of our airmen and their families to reach their full 
potential.
    As the United States Air Force celebrates its 75th 
anniversary this year, we are committed to remaining the world-
class Air Force America can be proud of. Current events 
demonstrate the world is growing more complex and uncertain. I 
am certain we will need air power anytime, anywhere, I am 
certain this year's budget is another step towards 
transformation of our Air Force, and I am certain there is 
still more work to be done. Therefore, we must continue to 
communicate and collaborate so we can accelerate change.
    Thank you for the opportunity to be with you today, and I 
look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General Brown.
    General Raymond, please.

    STATEMENT OF GENERAL JOHN RAYMOND, USSF, CHIEF OF SPACE 
                           OPERATIONS

    General Raymond. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, it is an honor to 
appear before you today with Secretary Kendall and General 
Brown, and I am privileged to be part of this leadership team. 
On behalf of the almost 14,000 guardians stationed around the 
world, let me begin by thanking you for your continued 
leadership and your strong support of our guardians and their 
families.
    As we testify before you today, we find ourselves at a 
strategic inflection point where we are faced with an acute 
threat from Russia and a pacing challenge from China. The 
Russian invasion of Ukraine has showcased the importance of 
space to all instruments of power. Information derived from 
space, including commercial imagery, has been instrumental in 
dominating the information environment, communicating with 
forces, detecting missile threats, and sharing intelligence 
amongst allies and partners.
    It is clear that the character of war has changed and space 
is foundational to that change. However, Russia's recent 
direct-ascent, anti-satellite missile test in November is just 
the latest evidence of efforts to deny our Nation the 
advantages that space provides.
    Just as concerning, our pacing challenge, China, is 
integrating space into their military operations to detect, 
track, target, and strike the Joint Force, putting our 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians on the 
ground, in the air, and on the sea at high risk. We cannot 
allow potential adversaries to gain an unchallenged ability to 
conduct space-enabled attacks. Our Joint Forces will remain at 
risk until we can complete the transformation to a resilient 
architecture and protect the Joint Force from space-enabled 
attacks. This is critical to supporting all aspects of the 
National Defense Strategy, integrated deterrence campaigning, 
and building an enduring advantage.
    To remain the world's leader in space this President's 
budget request prioritizes space and invests $24.5 billion to 
ensure our assured access to and freedom to maneuver in space. 
The largest share is in research, development, testing, and 
evaluation funding, almost $16 billion, to modernize our 
forces, a portion of which will begin the pivot to a more 
resilient and mission-capable missile warning and missile 
tracking force design.
    Notably, this includes funding for the Space Development 
Agency, which is included in the Space Force budget for the 
first time this year, and sir, it is on track to transition 
into the Space Force on 1 October of this year.
    In contrast to legacy approaches, this architecture will be 
built to survive and degrade gracefully under attack, help 
manage escalation, and be rapidly reconstituted. This 
transformation will allow us to capitalize more fully on two of 
our national advantages: our commercial industry and our allies 
and partners.
    To increase readiness we are funding operational test and 
training infrastructure. This ensures that we can get the right 
capability on orbit and in the hands of operators trained and 
operating in a contested domain. Robust test and training 
capabilities are also critical to fielding our next generation 
of modernized systems.
    Other key investments include increased funding for weapon 
system sustainment, a more resilient global positioning system, 
and the next generation of satellite communications.
    Finally, and most importantly, we invest in our guardians 
and their families. Over the past two years we have overhauled 
how we recruit, assess, train, develop, promote, employ, and 
take care of our guardians. Resilient space power is not just 
about satellites. It is also about guardians. This is one of 
the reasons we are seeking the integration of Active Duty and 
Reserve forces into a single, hybrid component. This space 
component is central to our human capital plan and will allow 
us to best align our full-time and part-time members. This is 
our number one legislative proposal, and we look forward to 
working very closely with this committee to implement this bold 
and transformational approach.
    As Secretary Kendall has mentioned, change is hard and 
losing is unacceptable. The transformation we are beginning now 
is essential to protecting the Joint Force and to the security 
of space.
    Thank you again for your leadership and support for our 
Space Force. It is an absolute honor to appear before you, and 
I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of The Honorable Frank 
Kendall, General John W. Raymond and General Charles Q. Brown, 
Jr. follows:]

 Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Frank Kendall, General John 
              W. Raymond and General Charles Q. Brown, Jr.
                department of the air force introduction
    The Department of the Air Force, in line with the Department of 
Defense, recognizes the rapidly evolving, global environment and the 
complex challenges it presents. The Department of the Air Force 
provides unique competencies and capabilities to achieve our national 
security priorities to defend the Homeland, deter any strategic 
attacks, deter aggression and be prepared to prevail in conflict, and 
build a resilient joint force. We will advance these priorities through 
integrated deterrence, campaigning, and building enduring advantages. 
Among those priorities, the greatest challenge to the Department of the 
Air Force's ability to perform its missions is the People's Republic of 
China's (PRC) long-standing and extensive military modernization 
program. While the PRC remains the Department's pacing challenge, 
recent events in Eastern Europe highlight that Russia also remains an 
acute threat. Additionally, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, 
Iran, and violent extremist organizations are persistent threats that 
will continue to exploit opportunities to further their interests. 
Beyond state and non-state actors, transboundary challenges, such as 
climate change, also demand attention as they transform the strategic 
context in which we operate.
    The Department of the Air Force organizes, trains, and equips as 
part of a joint and combined team. While focused on the PRC--our pacing 
challenge--the Department provides forces that enable our country to 
meet the challenges associated with the full range of national security 
threats. ``One Team, One Fight'' is more than our mantra; it is a 
guiding principle. The Department of the Air Force encompasses two 
Services, united with shared infrastructure, complementary skills, 
resources, competencies, and goals. Our capabilities underwrite the 
design of the joint force, support every combatant command, enable 
every instrument of national power, strengthen our allies and partners, 
and enhance the security and prosperity of every American.
    Meeting our obligations to the Nation and the joint force demands 
we accelerate the transformation from the force we have today to the 
one needed to meet our pacing challenge. The risks we must address are 
increasing over time, in both strategic and conventional defense. This 
evolving strategic landscape requires us to balance risk by investing 
in the more capable and lethal future force the Nation needs to more 
effectively counter current and emerging threats. This transition is 
just beginning; achieving it will require trade-offs between 
maintaining capabilities to address combatant commands' current needs 
while accelerating vital modernization efforts for success in high-end 
conflicts. These investments have been prioritized to focus on key 
contributors to military advantage. fiscal year 2023 marks the next 
step of a much larger journey. Continuing progress is essential but 
will become increasingly challenging over time. Change is hard. It is 
hard politically, culturally, technologically, and institutionally. 
Still, we must make the needed transition; we must make tough choices; 
we must accept prudent risk; and we must get it right, or we will lose.
    One challenging step we are taking in the fiscal year 2023 budget 
is to make relatively modest short-term changes to the mix of 
capabilities and capacity of our air and space assets; this will drive 
limited divestments in fiscal year 2023. The aircraft we seek to retire 
are respected platforms that have served us well and whose capabilities 
were invaluable on yesterday's battlefields. However, they are not 
well-suited for today's contested environments or tomorrow's high-end 
conflicts. They do not give our competitors cause for concern, are 
aging and increasingly costly to maintain, and do not provide our joint 
force the capabilities to deter--and if called upon--to fight and win 
against pressing threats. Any budget is finite, and forced resourcing 
of outdated systems jeopardizes our ability to guarantee air and space 
superiority in the future. We must balance the risk associated with 
retiring older platforms in order to onboard new, necessary 
technologies and capabilities. This will allow us to ensure the United 
States maintains sufficient military advantage to secure our vital 
national interests and support our allies and partners. In addition to 
eliminating the expense of maintaining outdated platforms, these 
divestments allow our most valuable resource--our people--to transition 
to capabilities that provide an enduring advantage. Providing our 
airmen and guardians with the tools they need to prevail is our most 
sacred obligation.
    Last year, Congressional support enabled us to initiate this 
transition to better confront our pacing challenge. Congressional 
approval to begin retiring outdated fighter, tanker, cargo, and command 
and control aircraft, and to begin updating our space architecture, 
allows us to start investing in the necessary capabilities we require 
to win future conflicts. While the Department of the Air Force remains 
grateful for past and future Congressional support, we continue to face 
burdensome restrictions on structural changes year after year, impeding 
the development of a more modern, operationally relevant force that the 
Nation requires. We need continued Congressional collaboration and 
support to ensure deterrence and, if needed, victory.
    This year, the Department of the Air Force, powered by 
approximately 700,000 airmen and guardians, celebrates 75 years of air 
and space dominance. This milestone was achieved through the dedication 
and sacrifice of generations of Total Force members who served our 
Department throughout its rich history. Their legacy is foundational to 
this incredible Department and continues to be honored by those who 
serve today. Our team of military and civilian Active, Guard, and 
Reservist airmen and guardians all contribute to our Nation's air and 
space security. These brave, inspiring Americans provide great hope for 
the future of our Department and our Nation by ensuring the high ground 
always belongs to the United States.
    Airmen and guardians are our competitive advantage, and the 
Department of the Air Force is creating a future force with the human-
capital capabilities and competencies required to win. We must continue 
to maximize opportunities for all members to serve to their fullest 
potential. We remain committed to building a culture of respect, where 
sexual assault and harassment are not tolerated in any form. We will do 
this by supporting victims and prosecuting offenders through the 
Uniform Code of Military Justice and reinforcing the Department of 
Defense's implementation roadmap to employ the recommendations of the 
Independent Review Commission on Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment. 
Additionally, the Department will continue to confront racial, ethnic, 
and gender disparity, interpersonal violence, and suicide, all of which 
erode morale, hinder our airmen and guardians' ability to achieve their 
full potential, and degrade our ability to execute our missions. 
Furthermore, we will continue to highlight successful diversity and 
inclusion initiatives, ensuring all of our personnel understand and 
contribute fully to our collective strength. Dedicated, talented, and 
selfless Airmen and Guardians enable our success, and they must all be 
valued, supported, and empowered to reach their full potential so they 
can make the maximum possible contribution to the Department's 
readiness.
    While fiscal year 2023 fully budgets for the strategic deterrent 
recapitalization as well as Homeland defense-oriented systems, the 
Department of the Air Force has evaluated the threat landscape and 
determined that additional modernization efforts are required to 
address seven conventional warfare operational imperatives. The former 
AF/A9 element of the Air Staff has been transferred to the Office of 
the Secretary of the Air Force and redesignated as the Department of 
the Air Force Studies and Analysis Office (DAFSA). DAFSA will provide 
analytical support to each of seven imperatives. These seven 
imperatives focus our efforts and lay the framework for this and 
subsequent budgetary requests. They also reflect the conventional 
warfare priorities of the Department of Defense and the Department of 
the Air Force. Our current capabilities in each of these areas will not 
be adequate to address emerging threats, and hard choices in future 
budgets will almost certainly be necessary.
    First, the Department of the Air Force must define and resource a 
resilient, effective space order of battle that ensures our terrestrial 
forces have the support from space on which they depend. At the same 
time, we must deny any potential adversary the operational services 
they expect to receive from space, especially the ability to target key 
elements of the joint force. Space is a warfighting domain and 
contested environment today, and it will only become more so in the 
future. In the fiscal year 2023 budget, we begin the transition to more 
resilient communications and missile warning architectures. The 
Department of the Air Force is also currently working with the 
Intelligence Community and others to define joint solutions to our 
intelligence, operational surveillance, and reconnaissance needs.
    Second, we must achieve an operationally-optimized Advanced Battle 
Management System (ABMS) as the Department's primary contribution to 
Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2). The fiscal year 2023 
budget continues funding for early increments of ABMS. Ongoing work 
will define additional future investments that are needed to most cost-
effectively modernize the Air and Space Forces Command, Control, and 
Communications Battle Management networks and to integrate those 
networks with the joint and combined force.
    Third, achieving Moving Target Indication (MTI) and tracking of 
surface and air threats at scale in a challenging operational 
environment is a necessary step in any JADC2 or ABMS system. Existing 
systems, principally Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) and 
Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (JSTARS), are aging and 
increasingly vulnerable to advanced threats, as are uncrewed systems 
designed for permissive environments. The fiscal year 2023 budget 
provides funding to acquire an interim AWACS replacement while ongoing 
analysis will define the optimal mix of air-based and space-based 
ground and aerial MTI systems and architectures. These systems must be 
able to find and track high-priority mobile targets in the air, on the 
sea surface, and on the ground in contested environments. The ability 
to hold larger numbers of targets at risk in a time-compressed scenario 
is essential to conventional deterrence and defeating aggression.
    Fourth, both threat developments and affordability concerns dictate 
that the Air Force proceed to develop and field a Next Generation Air 
Dominance (NGAD) family-of-systems. This family-of-systems will include 
a sixth-generation crewed platform, as well as uncrewed combat aircraft 
and a cost-effective mix of sensors, weapons, and communications 
systems. Several years of technology maturation have led the Department 
of the Air Force to conclude that crewed-uncrewed teaming for air 
dominance and other tactical missions is within reach. The NGAD core 
crewed platform is funded for development in the fiscal year 2023 
budget, and the work to define other elements of this family-of-systems 
has been initiated.
    Fifth, we must define and resource cost-effective, resilient 
forward basing for our tactical aircraft. The last decades of conflict 
saw our airfields operating with comparably little interruption or 
threat, but the PRC has invested extensively in precise long-range 
ballistic and cruise missiles that threaten our forward air bases. 
Their investments into hypersonic weapons, which are much harder to 
defend against, further threaten our forward bases. This budget 
continues funding for Agile Combat Employment (ACE) in both the Indo-
Pacific and European regions while work is ongoing to define the most 
cost-effective mix of hardening, active defense, deception, and 
dispersion activities. This includes necessary mobile logistics or 
prepositioned assets required to sustain operations. All our 
investments in tactical airpower depend on our success at achieving 
resilient forward basing.
    Sixth, our global conventional strike capabilities will be built 
around the B-21 Raider and associated family-of-systems. The fiscal 
year 2023 budget fully funds the B-21 for continued development and the 
initiation of production. The Department of the Air Force is working to 
determine an affordable family-of-systems that will be associated with 
the B-21 and include uncrewed combat aircraft with comparable range. 
Like NGAD, the B-21 is envisioned to operate as part of a more 
extensive set of systems with significantly more operational 
performance than the B-21 alone.
    Seventh, to provide effective integrated deterrence, the Department 
of the Air Force must be fully ready to expeditiously transition to a 
wartime posture. We must be ready to mobilize against a peer competitor 
who has spent decades researching and developing the means to attack 
the systems and infrastructure we depend on to go to war through cyber 
and non-cyber means. This budget includes resources to modernize and 
harden our existing information systems. Ongoing work will define 
additional steps that should be taken to deter and defeat cyber and 
other attacks on our information systems and logistical infrastructure.
    In summary, the Air Force and Space Force fiscal year 2023 budgets 
balance the risks of maintaining current readiness to support combatant 
commands today with the need to develop and deliver the force needed 
for tomorrow. In the following sections, we discuss how the Space Force 
and Air Force will balance these risks from the perspectives associated 
with the goals of integrated deterrence, campaigning, and building 
enduring advantages. This budget and our ongoing efforts lay the 
groundwork for the tough choices we expect to face next fiscal year and 
beyond. The Department of the Air Force has undergone historic 
transitions through our rich, 75-year history, and we are in the 
infancy of another historic change now. This change will ensure we 
maintain our ability to deter and, when necessary, defeat those who 
seek to prevent our Nation and our allies and partners from being 
secure, prosperous, and free. Change is hard--losing is unacceptable. 
``One Team, One Fight.''
                       united states space force
    The United States Space Force and its capabilities underwrite all 
instruments of national power and enable the joint force to operate 
effectively. The joint force cannot succeed without space capabilities. 
Spacepower is a source of our Nation's strength both at home and abroad 
and provides socioeconomic benefit to all Americans, an expanding 
network of allies and partners, and the global community. Access to and 
use of space are vital national interests, and space capabilities 
provide critical data, products, and services that drive innovation in 
the United States and around the world. Our pacing challenge, the PRC, 
understands the importance of space and is acquiring the space systems 
and counter-space systems to hold our interests at risk and defeat us 
in conflict.
    Uninterrupted use of space and protection from adversary counter-
space operations are foundational to the design and function of the 
joint force. Historically, precise missile warning and the ability to 
attribute the source of the threat helped deter missile strikes on the 
homeland; high-resolution satellite imagery allowed the joint force to 
revolutionize the speed and sophistication of target development; 
precision navigation, enabled by the Global Positioning System (GPS), 
revolutionized weapons accuracy and the efficiency of munitions; and 
satellite communications (SATCOM) enabled over-the-horizon power 
projection, which is essential to deterring aggression. It is not 
hyperbole to say the joint force cannot prevail without space. The 
United States also cannot allow potential adversaries to gain an 
unchallenged ability to conduct space-enabled attacks on our joint 
forces and terrestrial interests.
    The United States is the world's premier space power, and our 
military capabilities enable the joint force to succeed, but this 
position is being challenged as never before. The PRC and Russia 
understand the unique advantages that spacepower provides and have 
demonstrated the willingness and ability to attack space capabilities 
and endanger peaceful use of the domain. The November 2021 Russian 
anti-satellite missile test, whose debris continues to threaten all 
nations' space assets, is just the latest of many irresponsible 
counter-space weapon demonstrations by both the PRC and Russia. Both 
competitors are researching, developing, and fielding the space and 
counter-space systems needed to defeat the joint force. In addition to 
developing the ability to attack in space, the PRC has integrated space 
capabilities into its military operations in order to target maritime, 
air, and land forces and project power through space. The PRC's 2021 
test of an orbital hypersonic glide vehicle constitutes a new challenge 
to strategic deterrence and stability. Further, in its invasion of 
Ukraine, Russia maintains the ability to deploy and employ a wide range 
of ground-based electronic warfare capabilities to counter GPS, 
tactical communications, SATCOM, and radars.
    The Space Force must take urgent action to meet growing threats to 
vital national interests and to strengthen deterrence. This budget 
represents the beginning of an unprecedented transformation from a few 
exquisite space systems to more capable, resilient, and defendable 
architectures comprised of a diverse and distributed mix of 
capabilities.
              space force's role in integrated deterrence
    Integrated deterrence starts with space. The Space Force provides 
the joint force and our allies and partners critical services that are 
essential to integrated deterrence and effective defense. Unique 
services such as missile warning, positioning, navigation and timing, 
communications, and space-enabled intelligence, make the United States 
a valued security partner. Deterrence has long depended on assured 
missile warning and the ability to communicate with strategic forces in 
all circumstances. The Space Force delivers unmatched capability in 
these missions today and is developing the next generation of 
capabilities to meet mission requirements in the future.
    Next Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared provides critical 
tactical and strategic ballistic missile warning and acts as a bridge 
from legacy detection and warning to the more robust missile tracking 
needed to counter modern, maneuverable threats. The transition towards 
resilient, proliferated architectures will extend to other mission 
areas, including battlespace awareness and space-based intelligence. In 
addition to our ability to provide warning and tracking of modern 
threats, the Evolved Strategic Satellite Communication system will 
ensure the ability to command and control strategic forces despite 
attack.
    Space provides an asymmetric advantage in military operations. The 
joint and combined force cannot succeed in conflict against a space-
capable adversary without the ability to gain and maintain space 
superiority. Potential adversaries are actively developing and fielding 
systems intended to deny the use of space in conflict. By denying the 
potential for a sudden decisive attack in space, the Space Force 
bolsters integrated deterrence across all domains. Beginning in fiscal 
year 2023, the Space Force's transformation to resilient architectures 
is purpose-built to deny an adversary's ability to acquire an advantage 
through an attack on a few fragile, high-value space assets. This new 
design approach enhances capability and resiliency through distributed 
systems proliferated across multiple orbits. Taken together, these 
features measurably increase deterrence of the full spectrum of 
advanced threats.
    The first mission area to undergo this transformation is the 
Missile Warning/Missile Tracking architecture. The fiscal year 2023 
investment in this transformation implements a force design developed 
by the Space Warfighting Analysis Center (SWAC). Supported by a multi-
agency collaboration, the Space Force is building upon the Overhead 
Persistent Infrared Enterprise Architecture Strategy to deliver 
architecture capabilities that can be protected, survive attack, 
degrade gracefully under attack, and be rapidly reconstituted. In 
conjunction with our network of allies and partners, the transformation 
to resilient architectures communicates to the world that our joint 
combat credible forces, in space and terrestrially, will continue to 
sustain operational advantages through all domains and phases of 
conflict.
    Space Domain Awareness (SDA) is essential to attributing bad 
behavior in space as well as tracking objects in orbit, launch attempts 
worldwide, and active payload deliveries, and, if necessary, 
controlling space assets during a conflict. Fiscal year 2023 
investments, such as the Deep Space Advanced Radar Capability, will 
deliver continuous, all-weather radar capabilities for deep-space 
object tracking. Additionally, Deep Space Advanced Radar Capability 
will enhance the Space Force's ability to track foreign launches, from 
liftoff to final destination, and improve the ability to observe the 
behavior of existing and emerging threats. In addition to supporting 
the transfer of the space traffic management mission to the Department 
of Commerce, the Space Force increasingly uses SDA data, provided by 
allies and commercial companies, to improve awareness of the domain and 
distribute vital data to the joint force, interagency, allies and 
partners. By providing continuous assessments of potential adversary 
behaviors in space, the Space Force contributes to the range of 
measures available under the integrated deterrence concept.
    Space can become a conflict zone at any stage of the possible 
transition from peace to unconstrained conventional or even nuclear 
warfare. Integrated deterrence spans this spectrum. The Space Force is 
in the process of transforming to a suite of capabilities that can 
deter across that spectrum, help to assure the security and support of 
our allies and partners, and, if necessary, transition to wartime 
operations. The fiscal year 2023 budget begins that transformation.
                   space force's role in campaigning
    The Space Force strengthens and amplifies campaigning initiatives 
for the joint force, combatant commands, and allies and partners by 
delivering global services and effects that enable and enhance all 
joint and combined functions. The unique characteristics of the space 
domain provide a range of options for military operations, response to 
gray zone challenges, and peacetime influence operations. Furthermore, 
space leverages its inherently global coverage to support all combatant 
commands as well as our allies and partners. The Space Force also 
supports the campaign to ensure the peaceful use of space, supports 
appropriate international behaviors in space, and works closely with 
the National Space Council to further interests in security as well as 
peaceful commercial and scientific uses of space.
    Last year, the Secretary of Defense issued Tenets of Responsible 
Behavior in Space to establish foundational criteria under which the 
application of military spacepower complements, rather than competes 
with, the growing civil and commercial use of space. New capabilities, 
including those intended to protect national interests in space, must 
strengthen American leadership as well as foster a secure, stable, and 
sustainable space domain open to all responsible actors.
    Our ability to use space effectively at all times starts with 
assured access. The Space Force's National Security Space Launch (NSSL) 
program has delivered an unprecedented record of 90 successful launches 
stretching back to 2002. The NSSL program has achieved commercial-like 
pricing for routine missions and reduced overall launch costs by half. 
This budget ensures our NSSL launch capacity requirement to place new 
capabilities in orbit. While there are fewer NSSL missions than last 
year, our investment is right-sized to manifest requirements, and it 
does not reflect a drop in capacity or space operations. Additionally, 
the Space Force is utilizing the four remaining Atlas V launch 
vehicles, effectively eliminating dependency on the Russian RD-180 
engine moving forward. The Space Force's launch infrastructure is 
another critical element of our transformation. The Range of the Future 
vision enables us to keep pace with the accelerating United States 
space launch market and maintain safe and assured launch for 
commercial, civil, and Department of Defense users.
    As a member of the Intelligence Community, the Space Force 
collects, analyzes, and delivers intelligence on threat systems, 
foreign intentions, and activities in the space domain in support of 
national leaders, the acquisition community, and joint warfighters, 
before and during all phases of conflict. The National Space 
Intelligence Center (NSIC) will focus this effort, provide the 
scientific and technical intelligence necessary to support threat-based 
requirements development, future space acquisition decisions, 
campaigning in support of deterrence, and defense of space systems from 
anti-satellite weapons, such as those being developed and demonstrated 
by the PRC and Russia. The Space Force will leverage NSIC to coordinate 
with the rest of the Intelligence Community, and our investments in 
full functionality of the NSIC will better inform threat-based 
requirements development and future acquisition decisions.
    To ensure data transport in support of ABMS and JADC2, the Space 
Force, through the Space Development Agency, will deliver an initial 
space data transport layer that will enhance secure and resilient data 
access for joint force and allied users across the globe at all times. 
This data transport layer, based on a force design led by the SWAC, 
will be an integral element of JADC2, delivering assured, low-latency 
connectivity to the full range of warfighting platforms. This 
initiative supports another operational imperative driving ABMS towards 
an operationally optimized solution. At full strength, the space 
transport layer will consist of a constellation of satellites to 
provide seamless, assured global connectivity to warfighters.
    GPS is the gold standard for positioning, navigation, and timing, 
used daily by billions of people around the globe. Navigation and 
timing systems depend on accurate, reliable, and highly-precise 
geolocation services in support of commercial and military activity. 
These capabilities are mission-essential for virtually every modern 
weapon system and critical for public safety and government services. 
This year's budget continues procurement of advanced GPS III follow-on 
satellites and emphasizes specific modernization efforts to improve the 
resiliency of GPS services. This includes anti-jamming, upgrades to 
military user equipment, and advanced cyber protection for the ground 
operating systems.
    SATCOM enables global voice and data connectivity for Presidential 
support, Command and Control (C2), Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR), and Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications 
(NC3). The Space Force is ensuring joint force SATCOM availability by 
operating a suite of mobile, wideband, and secure systems, and by 
investing in programs such as Protected Tactical SATCOM and the 
Protected Tactical Enterprise Service to deliver reliable joint force 
communications. Space Force also continues to enhance SATCOM 
effectiveness, efficiency, and resilience through the use of 
international partnerships, commercial SATCOM, various acquisition 
pathways, and the transfer of Army and Navy capabilities and programs.
    The Space Force is also responsible for the continuous operation of 
over 50 legacy platforms. Even as Space Force embarks on a 
transformation, many legacy platforms must operate for years into the 
future. To ensure capabilities that were designed and delivered before 
space was recognized as a warfighting domain remain credible and 
viable, the Space Force is investing in additional cyber protection, 
evaluating select legacy systems for resiliency upgrades, and 
integrating space capabilities from a number of allies and partners. 
These investments ensure today's space capabilities are ready to 
support day-to-day campaigning in the near-term as the Space Force's 
modernization efforts pave the way to deliver new architectures that 
are resilient by design.
    The services that Space Force provides enable the joint force and 
combined force to contribute to campaigning efforts that reinforce 
deterrence. The Space Force also directly supports campaigning by 
contributing some of those same services to allies and partners and by 
increasing the attractiveness of cooperating with, and operating in 
conjunction with, the United States. Equally important, the Space Force 
can support campaigning by providing increased levels of security to 
allies and partners through the potential to negate and, therefore, 
deter threatening space systems.
           space force's role in building enduring advantages
    Building the future Space Force also hinges on investment in 
diverse and highly talented Guardians--the core of the Space Force's 
enduring advantages. With this budget, the Space Force assumes 
responsibility for its own Military Personnel account from the United 
States Air Force, enabling it to more fully and effectively develop and 
manage the incredible talent resident in the Space Force. The Guardian 
Ideal is the Space Force's foundational document outlining the 
Service's boundary-pushing, innovative approaches to talent management. 
This inclusive, modern, and holistic talent management approach 
incorporates work-life balance, resiliency, training, education, and 
individualized development. The Space Force also needs a force 
structure and resourcing approach capable of adapting to changing 
circumstances, quickly and effectively scaling on-demand to meet 
mission requirements. With Congressional support, creating a Space 
Component with full- to part-time fluidity for all uniformed members 
will give the Space Force the unique opportunity to achieve those 
objectives.
    Space Force is advancing space education by embedding space 
curriculum into the Department of the Air Force's Basic Military 
Training, Non-Commissioned Officer academies, the United States Air 
Force Academy, Officer Training School, and Reserve Officer Training 
Corps. This ensures both guardians and airmen have a foundational 
understanding of the space domain and its importance. Additionally, 
dedicated, space-centered education within officer and civilian 
intermediate- and senior-level professional military education programs 
drives long-term strategic thought and builds the technical leaders of 
tomorrow.
    To address the operational imperative on transitioning to a wartime 
posture against a peer competitor, the Space Force must ensure 
readiness for that contingency. Currently, the Space Force is 
inadequately equipped to train for a high-end fight. Readiness requires 
education and training to equip Guardians with the knowledge, skills, 
and tools necessary to operate and prevail against a determined 
adversary with a diverse array of threat systems. To meet this need, 
this budget begins the transformation of the legacy Operational Test 
and Training Infrastructure and expands the National Space Test and 
Training Complex as the premier venue to develop warfighting space 
capabilities. This will include developing live, virtual, and 
constructive environments where Guardians can train against a 
professional, doctrinally sound, and threat-representative aggressor 
force. This training will be applied, tested, and validated by Space 
Flag, Red Flag, and various joint, allied, and partner exercises.
    To further improve the joint force's enduring advantage, the Space 
Force, together with the Intelligence Community, is analyzing the 
Department of Defense's ISR requirements and examining national, 
commercial, allied, and partner ISR integration opportunities. By 
exploiting new technologies, commercial services, and distributed 
architectures, the space domain offers opportunities to provide greater 
capability to meet warfighter requirements while reducing operational 
risk. Under the operational imperatives, Space Force, in partnership 
with the National Reconnaissance Office, is also exploring options and 
opportunities to apply these solutions to the problem of moving target 
indication and tracking from space at scale.
    Space Force needs a digital workforce with the skills to rapidly 
turn data into valuable insights. Digital fluency is foundational to 
being a Guardian, and, to improve that literacy, the Space Force 
provides Digital University access to every Guardian. The Space Force 
continues to build a cadre of organic software coders (known as ``Supra 
Coders'') with a plan to train 90 in 2023 and achieve a target 
inventory of over 200. These initial efforts will prepare Guardians to 
embrace the digital processes and technology required to innovate and 
increase effectiveness and efficiency against space operations threats.
    A key aspect of digital transformation is digital engineering. The 
Space Force has made initial investments into an ecosystem where 
digital engineering will be conducted to manage the complexities of 
force design, requirements validation, weapon system acquisition, test 
and evaluation, training, and operations. These investments will 
accelerate and modernize the entire capability development lifecycle--
from conception to deployment to operations. Further, data management 
is foundational to advancing capabilities. The goal of becoming the 
world's first fully digital Service is to deliver a force capable of 
winning a data-centric conflict and protecting the vital interests of 
the Nation, allies, and partners.
    The Space Force is surging to address the first operational 
imperative of defining a resilient space order of battle that 
encompasses offensive and defensive capabilities by implementing a 
cost-conscious, threat-informed, data-driven force design process to 
define space architectures that will replace legacy, single-platform 
solutions built for a benign domain. The SWAC, working with DAFSA, is 
leading this transformational shift by analyzing thousands of possible 
architectures for each mission area and evaluating the performance, 
cost, and resilience of each to clearly define the threat, inform 
requirements, and increase transparency with potential solution-
providers to expedite the delivery of capabilities. Space Force is 
adopting this approach across all elements of force design to ensure it 
can accelerate concept development, access the most cutting-edge 
science and technology, use digital engineering, and integrate 
acquisition efforts, turning designs into fielded systems at the speed 
of need. This method also increases access to a more diverse base of 
satellite vendors and launch providers.
    Through a unity of effort approach to acquisition of enduring 
advantages, the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Space 
Acquisition and Integration leverages the Program Integration Council 
to communicate and align efforts among senior leaders from the Space 
Systems Command, Space Rapid Capabilities Office, Department of the Air 
Force Rapid Capabilities Office, Space Development Agency, National 
Reconnaissance Office, Missile Defense Agency, United States Space 
Command, Space Operations Center, and the Air Force Research 
Laboratory. In conjunction with this process, the formal transfer of 
the Space Development Agency into the Space Force at the beginning of 
fiscal year 2023 will enhance the Space Force's ability to integrate 
innovative acquisition approaches and deliver new satellites and ground 
system prototypes into the operational baseline.
    Technology and pacing threats are evolving at an ever-increasing 
rate, and achieving enduring advantages means the Space Force must 
undergo a transformation from current legacy systems to the 
architectures needed to be competitive. The Space Force is leveraging 
technology to deliver game-changing space capabilities.and solidify an 
ecosystem through our University Research Consortium. Quantum 
technologies, counter-hypersonics, artificial intelligence/machine 
learning, and directed energy are several of the emerging technologies 
that are necessary to integrate into the Space Force architectures to 
stay ahead of potential adversaries.
                        united states air force
    The United States Air Force remains integral to the Nation's 
defense and continues to lead the joint team by developing and 
deploying critical capabilities in support of Defense priorities. The 
Air Force does so through the execution of its mission statement: 
``Fly, Fight, and Win . . . Airpower Anytime, Anywhere.'' The Air Force 
brings unparalleled speed, agility, survivability, mobility, and strike 
to the joint fight while simultaneously providing command and control, 
reconnaissance, and deterrence capabilities. Simply put, no one else 
can do what the Air Force does, and without its capabilities, the joint 
force loses.
    As the Air Force celebrates its 75th anniversary as an independent 
service this year, our airmen can look back and honor three-quarters of 
a century of pioneering. Since 1947, airmen have dutifully executed 
their mission successfully in the same way the airmen of today are 
called to do: ``Innovate, Accelerate, and Thrive.'' Innovation, fueled 
by airmen, is the Air Force heritage. airmen continue to push 
technological and cultural boundaries, making the Air Force the leader 
in airpower. For 75 years, the Air Force has kept pace with rapid 
changes in technology, modernizing platforms, and accelerating 
advancements in tactics with unprecedented success. Our Nation's airmen 
thrive as the world's greatest Air Force because of those who have gone 
before us--particularly those who weren't afraid to break barriers. 
This success was hard-fought to achieve, and it must be fiercely 
maintained into the future.
    Maintaining the Air Force's role as the global leader in airpower 
requires us to Accelerate Change or Lose. In an environment of 
aggressive global competitors and technology development and diffusion, 
the Air Force must accelerate change to control and exploit the air 
domain while also underwriting national security through nuclear 
deterrence to the standard the Nation expects and requires. The 
necessity to Accelerate Change or Lose is the impetus behind the 
Department of the Air Force's operational imperatives, which are 
identifying the changes and investments needed to be successful. To 
best address these necessary changes, the Air Force must balance risk 
over time. The Air Force will develop and field new capabilities 
expeditiously while selectively divesting older platforms that are no 
longer relevant to our pacing challenge--all while maintaining 
readiness. The Air Force must ensure its path continuously drives 
toward readiness to be best prepared when called upon by the Nation. 
Accelerating change means both getting the direction right and moving 
as fast as possible.
    In last year's budget submission, the Air Force began the process 
of making hard decisions to modernize the force. Last year's budget 
highlighted the Air Force the Nation needs for 2030 and beyond, and the 
message has not changed: the need to modernize is critical to counter 
strategic competitors. The Air Force is taking measured risks in the 
near-term while simultaneously prioritizing an affordable, defensible 
force structure that grows readiness over time and accelerates 
investment in critical capabilities to deter and defeat an advancing 
threat. Continued collaboration with Congress enables us to best 
execute the resources that protect the Nation and, in turn, secure 
vital national interests and backstop the security of allies and 
partners. This process will not end with the fiscal year 2023 budget; 
additional difficult decisions will be required in the future.
    The character of war continues to change. Advances in technology 
produce a combat environment that rewards speed, tempo, agility, 
lethality, and resilience. These have been hallmarks of the Air Force 
since its inception, and it takes the solemn task of building upon 
those attributes as part of the joint team very seriously. The Nation 
deserves and demands nothing less.
               air force's role in integrated deterrence
    The Air Force plays a unique role in integrated deterrence as the 
Nation's leading and most agile choice for executing seamlessly across 
warfighting domains, theaters, and spectrums of conflict. The Air Force 
provides a range of combat-credible capabilities backed by a safe, 
secure, and reliable nuclear deterrent. As stewards of two-thirds of 
the nuclear triad and three-fourths of the Nation's NC3, the Air Force 
foundationally enables the Nation's nuclear deterrence for a stable 
international order. Relationships and connections with the interagency 
and allies and partners--whether in the Indo-Pacific with Japan, 
Australia, and the Republic of Korea or as demonstrated by current 
deployments in support of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization--are 
critical elements of integrated deterrence. Across the joint force, 
combatant commands, and allies and partners, Air Force airpower 
capabilities prove invaluable as demand consistently exceed supply. 
Through focused efforts to balance near-term risk, the Air Force is 
able to continue supporting these demands while accelerating 
investments in future capabilities.
    Nuclear deterrence is a significant part of integrated deterrence. 
The United States' strategic deterrent provides the joint force, allies 
and partners, and the Nation security guarantees while deterring other 
nations' use of nuclear weapons. The nuclear deterrent can also serve 
as a deterrent to other strategic attacks on American and allied vital 
interests in general and provides critical reassurance to strategic 
allies. As the Service responsible for the majority of the Nation's 
nuclear capabilities, the Air Force's fiscal year 2023 budget continues 
investments and improvements to sustain and reinforce strategic 
deterrence.
    Capable of providing prompt, overwhelming response, the ground-
based leg of the nuclear triad is a critical capability for deterring 
peer adversaries and is fully funded in the fiscal year 2023 budget. To 
ensure this capability remains ready, the Air Force is modernizing with 
the Sentinel system, our Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD). Its 
on-time delivery is critical as the existing Minuteman III fleet ages 
and our pacing challenge is investing heavily to grow and modernize its 
nuclear arsenal. The PRC recently built more than 100 new 
intercontinental ballistic missile silos in its western desert. At the 
same time, Russia's nuclear modernization efforts are more than 80% 
complete, and Russian leaders publicly stated the nuclear forces were 
recently placed on high alert. The United States has delayed nuclear 
recapitalization as long as possible, and consistent investment in the 
Sentinel comprehensive weapon system is an absolute necessity.
    The Air Force's nuclear-capable bomber force provides the second 
leg of the Nation's nuclear triad. The B-21 Raider represents the 
future of our bomber force. As the most flexible leg of the nuclear 
triad, the B-21 is a unique national security capability. This budget 
includes additions to continue Engineering and Manufacturing 
Development and support to nuclear certification. In support of the 
operational imperative, as the B-21 family-of-systems is defined, the 
Air Force will develop, test, and field the B-21 while pursuing the 
potential to introduce a lower-cost, complementary, uncrewed aircraft 
to provide an enhanced level of conventional capability. As the Air 
Force modernizes, it will continue the transition to a two-bomber fleet 
capable of nuclear and conventional weapons delivery through the B-21 
and B-52. These modernized capabilities will provide global nuclear and 
conventional global strike options for decades to come.
    The Air Force must continue its investment in researching, 
developing, testing, and fielding cost-effective long-range traditional 
and hypersonic weapons. The Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile-
Extended Range is funded at maximum production capacity, and the Long-
Range Standoff Weapon continues in development, providing future 
nuclear long-range strike options. The hypersonic Air-Launched Rapid 
Response Weapon system is funded for completion of development; 
however, production funding is deferred until successful flight tests 
occur. The Joint Advanced Tactical Missile (JATM) continues in full-
scale development, while the Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile ramps up 
its development. The Air Force must develop these revolutionary 
capabilities and other advanced weapons to maintain a competitive 
advantage over the pacing challenge.
    The Air Force's pursuit of the NGAD family-of-systems ensures air 
superiority in the future through cutting-edge concepts and technology. 
Adversaries are investing in capabilities that erode the Air Force's 
advantage, and NGAD investments continue development efforts for 
advanced sensors, resilient communications, and air vehicle 
technologies. NGAD's family-of-systems will provide survivable, 
persistent, and lethal options through a mix of crewed and uncrewed 
aircraft equipped with a flexible combination of weapons, sensors, 
electronic warfare, and other mission systems as it links with current 
and future targeting systems through ABMS.
    In support of integrated deterrence, the Air Force will be working 
with our allies and partners around the world to ensure that our 
collective, joint, and combined capabilities are used in the most 
effective way possible. ABMS will provide the connectivity and 
collaborative decision-making needed to make this possible. The budget 
funds a mix of foundational infrastructure, early increment 
capabilities, and advanced battle management tools as the Air Force 
component of JADC2.
    As the Air Force contributes to integrated deterrence, it will do 
so with the joint force, and allies and partners. The Air Force is 
working broadly to ensure that current capabilities and future weapons 
systems maximize interoperability with allies and partners alike. The 
Air Force is consistently engaged across borders to build, repeat, and 
reinforce a simple message to strategic competitors--the benefits of a 
stable international order far outweigh aggression and instability.
    Air Force's Role in Campaigning
    The Air Force will play a role in a full range of major military 
activities designed to achieve strategy-aligned objectives through 
campaigning. The Air Force will support both permanent and rotational 
deployments, exercises, forward presence, and other activities that 
contribute to maintaining deterrence and support other long-term 
strategic objectives. The Air Force's fielded forces are in constant 
global demand, providing direct military advantage to combatant 
commands, the joint force, and allies and partners while supporting 
diplomatic and whole-of-government efforts. The fiscal year 2023 budget 
investments in ABMS, ACE, readiness and sustainment of fielded forces, 
and continued support to allies and partners highlight some of the key 
roles the Air Force plays in ongoing campaigns to strengthen 
deterrence.
    The Air Force's readiness hinges on the ability to operate, 
maintain, and sustain an aging fleet of aircraft while funding the 
flying hour program to the maximum executable level. Operations and 
maintenance, the largest of Air Force appropriations, funds day-to-day 
operations critical to sustaining readiness, building resiliency, and 
enhancing wartime posture. Weapons system sustainment requirements--
funded at 85%--continue to grow due to aging platforms and the 
acquisition of new, highly technical, and complex weapons systems.
    Air Force rapid global mobility platforms enable power projection, 
extend range and persistence, and ensure air superiority and joint 
force capabilities are in the right place, at the right time. In order 
to maintain our air refueling edge for the joint force, this budget 
continues the fielding of the KC-46 Pegasus aircraft. Recapitalizing 
the Air Force tanker fleet with the KC-46 increases the likelihood of 
mission success while lowering risk in a peer conflict.
    Tactical and strategic airlift underpin the Nation's rapid global 
mobility capability. This budget submission maintains the long-term 
viability of the C-130 fleet and invests in communication and avionics 
capabilities for the C-17. This ensures the Air Force has the right mix 
of platforms to fulfill the joint force demand.
    ISR underpins all military actions, and the Air Force continues to 
balance maintaining and fielding systems that provide combatant 
commands with this critical capability. The ability to win future high-
end conflicts requires accelerating change across the ISR force 
structure to be more connected, persistent, and survivable while 
divesting legacy assets that lack these characteristics. In this 
budget, the Air Force modernizes existing ISR platforms with new 
sensors, cyber, and other classified capabilities while improving the 
ability to fuse data in a resilient network.
    The ability to prosecute targets in advance of our adversaries is 
pivotal to the C2 advantages the Air Force currently holds. The current 
Air Force C2 architecture, including the AWACS and JSTARS platforms, is 
aging, analog, and vulnerable to failure or attack through kinetic or 
non-kinetic means. The fiscal year 2023 budget divests a significant 
portion of both the AWACS and JSTARS fleets while pursuing and funding 
a replacement to close the Air MTI gap while a resilient long-term 
solution is identified.
    Detecting, tracking, monitoring, and striking moving targets at 
scale is a requirement in modern warfare. The Air Force's legacy 
Airborne Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Indicator 
(AMTI/GMTI) capabilities will be neither effective nor survivable in 
highly-contested environments. The Air Force must be able to operate in 
radar-jamming environments, detect low-observable and hypersonic 
threats, and survive. This operational imperative must integrate with 
ABMS in order to share and take advantage of information at 
operationally-required speeds across all domains. The fiscal year 2023 
budget supports this imperative through investments in future air and 
space capabilities as well as upgrades to existing ones. The Air Force 
will also leverage key allies' capabilities and systems to engage 
multiple mobile targets in the air, on the sea surface, and on the 
ground.
    A modernized C2 architecture will include ABMS, the Air Force's 
contribution to the JADC2 concept, and will accelerate communication, 
enhance decision-making, and shorten the kill chain. ABMS must be 
operationally optimized to leverage unprecedented sensing, provide 
processing, and integrate data across multiple domains to warfighters 
when and where needed. Fiscal year 2023 increases the investment into 
this critical capability to connect joint and allied and partner teams 
enabling domain awareness, faster decision-making, and execution than 
our adversaries.
    Exercising across the joint force and with allies and partners 
helps ensure the Air Force's readiness while reinforcing cooperation 
nationally and internationally. Continued investment in operational 
test and training infrastructure and exercises sends the clear message 
of the Nation's unified goals and collective capabilities. These 
exercises, budgeted to continue this year, enable the Air Force to be 
the partner of choice while also increasing interoperability and 
combined-force planning. These initiatives are especially important 
with those allies and partners who are more susceptible to military 
coercion or aggression.
            air force's role in building enduring advantages
    To build enduring advantages, the Air Force is undertaking a series 
of initiatives to apply current and emerging technologies to solve 
operational challenges while simultaneously building the workforce 
needed for the future. Research and development accounts are increased 
substantially in the fiscal year 2023 budget. These investments are 
focused on placing meaningful military capability into the hands of 
airmen as quickly as possible. Programs like NGAD, B-21, and JATM are 
moving into and through development toward fielding.
    The Air Force will continue to modernize to ensure a more lethal, 
resilient, sustainable, survivable, agile, and responsive force. As 
such, the Air Force must have a mix of multi-role air superiority 
capabilities and capacity to defend the homeland, project airpower 
globally, and operate as a joint and allied and partner force. The Air 
Force remains committed to the F-35 Lightning II with full Block 4 
capability as the long-term cornerstone of the United States' future 
fighter force. This year's budget submission temporarily reduces F-35 
procurement to invest in the overall tactical aircraft portfolio. This 
includes F-35 fleet modernization and advanced weapons, specifically 
advanced propulsion, the Stand-In Attack Weapon, Block 4 retrofits, and 
enterprise infrastructure. Accelerated F-15EX procurement provides 
expanded weapons carriage capacity and enables a rapid recapitalization 
of the F-15C over the next two years before returning to larger F-35 
procurement numbers. Funding of F-22 advanced sensors provides 
capabilities to bridge until replaced by the NGAD family-of-systems. 
The NGAD crewed platform has increased funding in this budget 
submission for continued development, and funds are provided to 
initiate development of an uncrewed combat aircraft. Additionally, 
funding for F-16 modernization supports lethality and survivability 
over the remaining service life by adding capacity to Air Force air 
superiority capabilities.
    Artificial intelligence (AI)-enabled technologies and advanced 
collaborative weapons are critical enablers that will transform the 
future joint force and fulfill a crucial role across the Air Force and 
joint force. In order to maintain a competitive edge and build enduring 
advantages, the Air Force will rely on crewed, uncrewed, and 
cooperative teaming platforms. The Air Force is investing to accelerate 
the development of advanced collaborative weapons systems to leverage 
AI and increase lethality in highly-contested environments. Human-
machine teaming will enable airmen to process massive amounts of data 
and arrive at sound operational decisions more rapidly and with 
confidence.
    Securing enduring advantages depends upon understanding and acting 
in anticipation of long-term challenges such as the transboundary 
threat of climate change. The fiscal year 2023 budget includes funding 
for the Adaptive Engine Transition Program to provide operational 
improvements and reduce energy use. The Air Force is also increasing 
Facilities, Sustainment, Restoration, and Modernization (FSRM) funding 
in fiscal year 2023 for both climate-related and operational 
resiliency. As the Air Force updates and repairs facilities, it is able 
to incorporate new climate mitigation techniques and improve energy 
efficiency, quality of life, and mission readiness. Additionally, the 
increased FSRM funding allows us to address the operational imperative 
of ensuring resilient basing, sustainment, and communications in 
contested environments. Facility updates and repairs can be affordably 
executed to reduce climate risk and enhance combat capability and 
mission execution.
    Airmen across the Total Force remain the Air Force's most 
significant enduring advantage. In the fiscal year 2023 budget, the Air 
Force provides funding to address sexual assault prevention and 
response reform, suicide prevention, diversity, equity, and inclusion 
initiatives, quality of life issues, and economic insecurity. The 
budget provides a $15 minimum wage for all civilian employees and 
includes investments to provide affordable childcare for the Total 
Force. The fiscal year 2023 budget also provides funding to cover 
increased costs of living for our military and civilian personnel to 
ensure they receive the pay they deserve and need.
                 department of the air force conclusion
    The Department of the Air Force fiscal year 2023 budget balances 
risk between maintaining current readiness in support of combatant 
commanders today while developing, building, and fielding the force 
needed for the future. The seven operational imperatives help guide 
this transformation, which is just beginning. Throughout the last 75 
years, the Department has shown its resolve and capability to execute 
the missions demanded by our Nation while constantly advancing to 
remain the world's premier air and space forces. This transformation 
will not be easy, but there is no alternative.
    While our Department remains incredibly capable, it cannot make 
these necessary changes alone. Instead, we must operate as ``One 
Team,'' working together within the Department, across the joint force, 
in the interagency, and in concert with our allies and partners. Our 
``One Fight'' unites us all around a common purpose. Russia may pose a 
very visible and acute threat, but the PRC remains our pacing 
challenge. The PRC's military modernization program is well resourced, 
strategic, and sophisticated. The risks to operational and 
technological superiority that we face are grave and increasing over 
time.
    Congressional support enabled the start of this transition to the 
future force the Nation needs, and Congressional support remains 
critical to our success. The necessity of Congressional backing to 
invest in the future while we continue divesting outdated assets and 
building modernized air and space capabilities will only increase as 
the Department continues its modernization efforts to deter, and, if 
called upon, to win the Nation's future conflicts. The defense of the 
Nation demands a transformation to the future air and space 
capabilities that will replace the obsolete platforms of today, and 
this can only be achieved with Congress' support for the difficult 
decisions to come.
    Today, America's airmen and guardians deliver innovative solutions 
to some of our Nation's most challenging problems while projecting 
airpower and spacepower around the globe. They remain our competitive 
advantage, and we will ensure they are all provided the opportunity to 
serve to their fullest potential. Every combatant command, ally, 
partner, and American benefits from their selfless dedication. We have 
an immense responsibility to provide our airmen and guardians the 
tools, training, platforms, and support they need to safely and 
effectively defend our great Nation, and we will. Change is hard; 
losing is unacceptable. ``One Team, One Fight.''

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Raymond, and 
gentlemen, thank you for your excellent testimony.
    General Raymond, Section 1602(v) of the fiscal year 2022 
National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed into law 
December 27, 2021, requires the Secretary of Defense, within 90 
days of enactment, to designate the Chief of Space Operations 
the Force Design Architect of the Armed Forces and notify the 
Congressional Defense Committees of that designation. Has this 
occurred, and if not, why not?
    General Raymond. I know it is being worked by the new 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space in OSD [Office of the 
Secretary of Defense]. I will tell you, though, that a Space 
Warfighting Analysis Center, which we stood up, is doing all 
the force design work for the Department. It is uniting the 
Department in that force design, and the force design that we 
are funding in this budget was again led by the Space Force, 
and that is going to continue.
    Chairman Reed. Well, again, I would you to urge them and 
the Secretary to make the official designation and communicate 
it to the committee as directed by the legislation.
    General Brown, the fiscal year 2023 budget request would 
retire roughly half of the E-3 airborne warning and control 
system, AWACS aircraft, 15 of 31. The Air Force just announced 
its intent to provide a sole-source contractor, Boeing, to buy 
an aircraft, the E-7 Wedgetail, to replace some of the E-3 
fleet. It will take several years to get that aircraft in the 
air and on duty. Can we wait that long, given the pacing threat 
of China, particularly?
    General Brown. Chairman Reed, I appreciate the question. 
You know, ideally we want to go as fast as possible and we want 
to work very closely with this committee but also with the 
contractor. But I would tell you that I personally have flown 
on the aircraft a couple of times and worked very closely with 
our allies and partners, particularly the Australians, who 
operate it today. Our goal here is to learn as much as we can 
from them, and at the same time to accelerate where we can to 
get the procurement. But we want to put ourselves in the best 
place possible to make sure we have the capability that is 
required.
    Chairman Reed. Secretary Kendall, typically you fly the 
aircraft before you buy it, you test it, et cetera, but as 
General Brown alluded to the Australians are already flying the 
E-7. Great Britain is ahead of us in line in terms of 
production. Are there any thoughts about making a grand bargain 
and getting those aircraft faster?
    Mr. Kendall. Chairman, we are exploring options to try to 
do that. It is not clear that there are opportunities but we 
are investigating them.
    The timeline is driven by the fact that we are buying new 
commercial airplanes and then modifying them to be the 
surveillance platforms that we want. Getting the airplanes is 
about a 2-year process, then then modifying them is another 2-
year process.
    So there are things that we could do, however, to maybe get 
access to aircraft earlier, one way or another. There are 
things that we might be able to do to reduce risk and to make 
sure that we make that schedule. So I would be happy to work 
with the committee on ideas to move forward at a quicker pace. 
That is something we all want.
    Chairman Reed. I concur and I look forward to working with 
you, Mr. Secretary.
    Both the Air Force and the Space Force have set up a robust 
unfunded priority list, and let me underscore the word 
``priority.'' General Brown, does that list represent your 
carefully evaluated priorities, what your needs are, so that 
you we will not buy something that is nice to have but not 
critical?
    General Brown. Chairman, it does, and actually, the way it 
is laid out, it looks at some of our readiness aspects as well 
as procurements and weapons to go with the platforms we are 
pursuing. So it is a combination of not just the platforms but 
really all the capability we require to move forward.
    Chairman Reed. General Raymond, the same question.
    General Raymond. Absolutely the same, sir. It reflects my 
priorities focused on modernization and readiness.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    A final question, Secretary Kendall, is that we have to 
renew the Small Business Innovation Research and Transitions 
Programs. They are expiring September 30th. You have had 
extensive experience in many different capacities with these 
programs. How critical is it is for us to extend these 
programs?
    Mr. Kendall. They are very important programs. They have 
been used for a very long period of time to provide money to 
encourage small businesses, particularly to develop their 
products and to transition them to where they are at a position 
where we could acquire them.
    The Air Force, in particular, is using a new approach to 
this to try to bring in more outside competitors. I think that 
has been fairly successful. It brings firms to the market for 
the Defense Department that normally would not be there, and 
they try to transition those projects quickly.
    General Brown and I are going to be reviewing a lot of the 
ongoing projects to decide which ones we think definitely need 
to get across the valley of death so that we can do that more 
predictably than it has been done in the past.
    But the program itself is of very high value. We strongly 
support it.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. Thank 
you, gentlemen.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a couple of 
questions that are very similar to what the chairman has asked, 
that gives you a chance to go in a little deeper if you want to 
do so. I have referred to the hearing that we had a week ago 
today with two other experts, and actually gave a quote from 
one of them. We have heard, at this end of the table, from 
contractors, from servicemembers, everyone from aircraft 
production to military construction, about its significant, 
harmful effects.
    Late last night we just received your response from a 
letter that Mr. Rogers, from the House, and I sent some time 
ago. Now we only got a response late last night, but I suspect, 
and I want to make sure that we get this in the record, that 
you had your response completed prior to that time but we had 
not received it yet. Is that accurate.
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, we had worked on that response over a 
period of time and it was reviewed multiple times as it was 
finalized. I signed it out yesterday, just before it was 
delivered to you, I believe.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes. But on the other hand your part was 
completed prior to that, I would suspect.
    Mr. Kendall. I do not know that I can say that, Senator.
    Senator Inhofe. All right. That is fine.
    I also talked about something very similar to what the 
chairman was talking about here, talking about the AWACS, the 
A-7, in my opening statement. Now this is an issue that is very 
close to us because AWACS, some 27--I think 27 are in Oklahoma, 
but the other 6 are forward deployed, I understand. But I think 
all of us agree that we need to get the A-7 as fast as possible 
for the high-end fight.
    Now that was asked by the chairman but I would like to be a 
little more specific. What options are you looking at to 
accelerate this program? Can we accelerate the acquisition 
authorities and is there a way that you think we can put this 
together so that we could actually have the contract done in 
2022, so we do not lose an extra year? That is the concern that 
I had in my opening statement. What do you think?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, we would really like to accelerate 
the program if we could. It is not clear at this time that 
there are opportunities to do that, and we talked about this 
just yesterday with you. I am exploring some options that might 
be possible but I cannot say with any certainty that they can 
be executed yet, and some of them, quite frankly, are going to 
require some changes by people who we do not necessarily have 
control of in terms of their priorities. We have to get new 
airplanes and we have to modify them, and the supply chain that 
supports all that is a big part of what we have to do. That is 
what takes so much time.
    I would like to be able to get things that could reduce 
risk, to ensure we meet that schedule. There may be things we 
can do to accelerate planning. But access to the aircraft we 
would have to modify is going to be the thing that I think 
limits us more than anything else. But we are going to continue 
to look for options and we will cooperate with you on that.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, Mr. Secretary, I appreciate that, and 
yes, we talked about that yesterday with all three of you, and 
I just wanted to give you an opportunity to get on record with 
that, because I think that is significant.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Let me now recognize Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you all for your testimony. I 
recently read about Space Force's decision to forego your 
annual fitness test and instead institute a program promoting 
physical activity, mental health, and healthy lifestyle 
activities. What impact do traditional fitness requirements 
have on the ability of Space Force to recruit and retain the 
technical talent needed for its mission?
    General Raymond. Thank you for that question. One of the 
great advantages we have seen since establishing the Space 
Force is our ability to recruit talent. We have more people 
knocking on our door than we can take. The quality of our folks 
has gone significantly higher. What we are trying to do with an 
innovative, science-based approach is to take a holistic look 
at health and fitness.
    So we have put together a three-part program which is 
incentivizing continuing fitness across the year round and then 
episodic, one-time-a-year test, and using data to be able to 
help support that. We also, focusing on physical fitness, 
mental health, and cognitive fitness as well.
    We are also, as part of that, going to establish an 
advanced physical health assessment part which gives more 
access to mental health, and we have an education part of it as 
well, where throughout the entire lifespan of a guardian, from 
when he comes in to when he or she leaves the service, they 
have education on the importance of health.
    Senator Gillibrand. Who are the types of recruits that the 
Space Force is seeking to fill its uniformed ranks, and do you 
need any additional flexibilities to recruit and retain these 
individuals?
    General Raymond. As I mentioned, the recruiting is going 
really, really well. We are looking for largely STEM-focused 
folks. Also space is a data domain. You do not experience the 
domain unless you are an astronaut. In person you experience 
that through data, so we are looking at software coders, we are 
looking at data scientists.
    One interesting point is we have had 400 folks from 
industry apply to us to transfer in laterally from industry, 
and we have narrowed that down now, scaled it down, whittled it 
down to about 45 applicants, and we are going to bring 6 in 
this summer. So we are getting a lot of great talent, STEM, 
software, data.
    Senator Gillibrand. What is the difference between your 
civilian complement and your uniformed complement?
    General Raymond. About 50-50, ma'am. We are just shy of 
14,000, and it is roughly 50-50.
    Senator Gillibrand. Is there an ability to recruit one over 
the other, or are there differences between what the 
requirements are for one over the other?
    General Raymond. We are having equal success in recruiting 
both civilians and military. There are physical requirements on 
the military side, obviously, that are different than the 
civilians. In fact, we have had some that have not been able to 
get into the service physically and we have given them civilian 
jobs.
    Senator Gillibrand. I have been working to create a cyber 
and digital services academy to help meet the cybersecurity 
needs of the Federal Government. Given Space Force's need for 
highly technical servicemembers and the Space Force's openness 
to alternative approaches to traditional military requirements, 
as demonstrated by your move away from the annual fitness test, 
would it be advantageous to the Space Force to send cadets to 
the civilian-oriented cyber, digital services, and space 
academy?
    General Raymond. Cybersecurity on the space side is really 
important to us. It is an area that we have put a lot of focus 
on. I would be really interested in exploring a relationship 
there once that materializes.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Secretary Kendall, the committee was briefed that the 
services will be implementing the DOD's Independent Review 
Commission recommendations on sexual assault. Can you provide 
more detail on when you expect these recommendations to be 
implemented in the Air Force, and how will you roll these 
recommendations out to your force to ensure servicemembers are 
sufficiently informed?
    Mr. Kendall. Thank you, Senator. We are moving as quickly 
as we can to implement the recommendations of the Independent 
Review Commission. Regarding those dates as guidance, I am 
trying to do everything I can to accelerate the implementation 
of them. Frankly, I think that the timelines associated with 
them are longer than we need for many things. For example, we 
are going to be setting up the Independent Special Prosecutor's 
Office a month earlier than the current schedule requires.
    So we are moving as quickly as we can. We use a variety of 
means to inform our people. We use social media, emails, 
various publications that we have to make sure that our airmen 
and guardians are well aware of the resources that are 
available to them so that they can get help if they need it.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Your budget includes a 
significant amount for financial bonuses for critical skilled 
positions. Can you discuss what positions those bonuses are for 
and what non-financial incentives are available to retain 
servicemembers given that they have a number of employment 
opportunities in the civilian sector?
    Mr. Kendall. We have recently increased bonuses across a 
number of fields. I can give you a list for the record. This 
covers both enlisted and officer occupational areas. It is 
essentially the things that you would think would be in high 
demand. Right now the economy is doing well and there is a 
large demand for labor. So we are doing what we need to do to 
be competitive in that market.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown, first let me express 
my appreciation for the support shown in this budget for 
modernizing the Air Force's nuclear equities, including nuclear 
command, control, and communications, or NC3. These programs 
are absolutely vital and they must be delivered on time, and I 
appreciate the commitment to doing so that is shown in this 
budget.
    As you both also know, Offutt Air Force Base was severely 
damaged by historic flooding in 2019, and is still in the 
process of rebuilding. I would like to thank the Air Force for 
its support in the rebuild efforts.
    General Brown, I was pleased to see an addition $286 
million for the Natural Disaster Recovery Fund in your unfunded 
priority list for fiscal year 2023.
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown, can I have your 
commitments to continue to prioritize recovery efforts at 
Offutt and to look for opportunities to complete these projects 
as quickly as possible?
    Mr. Kendall. Yes. Absolutely, Senator.
    General Brown. You have my commitment as well.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Secretary Kendall, I remain 
concerned about the toll of both inflation and supply chain 
issues on the Department of Defense. How do you expect the 
increased costs of building materials to impact ongoing MILCON 
projects?
    Mr. Kendall. It is something we are concerned about, and we 
are concerned about inflation across the board. Our biggest 
immediate concern is fuel prices, which have gone up 
substantially, and we are going to have about a $2 billion 
shortfall this year that we will have to address, through one 
mechanism or another.
    In the letter that we responded to, to Senator Inhofe and 
Ranking Member Reed, all of us talked about the steps that we 
need to take. We do not know what 2023 will be like yet, and we 
do not know how different aspects of the economy will be 
affected, so we are going to need to work with the Congress to 
make adjustments as we go forward. So we will appreciate your 
support as we address this.
    Senator Fischer. General Raymond, nice to see you.
    General Raymond. Thank you.
    Senator Fischer. Can you discuss the changes that are being 
made to the Next-Gen OPIR program in the fiscal year 2023 
budget and how the new Resilient Missile Warning Missile 
Tracking program integrates with this effort?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am. It is critical. It is our 
number one mission, Missile Warning Missile Tracking, and it is 
critical that we make this transformation, as I said, to get 
after two important realizations. The one is that the missiles 
that the satellites need to detect are changing, and it is 
getting after the hypersonic glide vehicles and being able to 
detect and track that. It is critical to make that 
transformation for that effort.
    The other thing is that by diversifying the architecture, 
very similar to what we do with our financial portfolios in 
diversifying, you then reduce the threat in space to an attack 
that may occur. So on both of those efforts, in this budget we 
pivot from handfuls of very exquisite, very expensive 
satellites to an architecture that is more diversified, to get 
after both the emerging class of missiles and the threat that 
currently exists in space.
    Senator Fischer. So the plan is really to keep the Block 
Zero Polar and the geo-capabilities but supplement them with 
the distributed architecture. Is that correct?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am. The challenge that we face as 
we make this transformation, this pivot to a new architecture, 
is we do not have the luxury of taking down what we have today 
and telling the Nation we will come back in a handful of years 
with a new architecture. So we had to develop a bridging 
strategy, and we looked at it. It is a risk-informed strategy 
to keep alive what we have for our Nation as we make this 
important transition.
    Senator Fischer. Do you still expect to have the first geo 
satellite in at 2025 then?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. It is vital. It is vital.
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what do you think the 
war in Ukraine teaches us about air power on the modern 
battlefield? I know we have heard some commentators argue that 
anti-air defenses have made sophisticated air power obsolete in 
the same way that others argue anti-tank munitions have made 
armor obsolete. What is your view?
    Mr. Kendall. I would begin, Senator, by saying that control 
of the air is critical to military success and the failure of 
the Russian military to gain control of the air is a major 
contributor to the difficulties that they are having.
    On the other side of the equation, the Ukrainians have used 
the air defense systems that they had quite well. They have 
been able to keep them survivable against the threat, which I 
think says as much about the lack of capability of the Russians 
as it does about the capability of the Ukrainians.
    So you need to be careful about trying to learn too many 
lessons from this until we really study it carefully. But they 
have reinforced my views about the importance of air power, 
first of all, but the successful air power must be 
sophisticated enough to deal with the threats that it faces, 
including ground-based air defense systems like the ones the 
Ukrainians are employing.
    Senator Fischer. General Brown, would you like to add 
anything?
    General Brown. I would. Air superiority cannot be taken for 
granted, and airpower, anytime, anywhere, it is not only the 
airplanes that will be airborne to go against other airplanes 
but it is the ability to also take out the air defenses that 
are on the ground. It is a combination of capabilities, and 
that is what we, as the United States Air Force, are focused 
on, to make sure we have the capability to do both and train to 
that as well.
    Senator Fischer. Be prepared for possible, more 
sophisticated encounters than we are seeing in Ukraine?
    General Brown. Most definitely.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. Thank you both very much. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to our witnesses I 
appreciate your service. This is a question for Secretary 
Kendall and General Brown. We had a hearing last week with 
Secretary Hicks, and she, frankly, talked about the challenge--
it is an obvious challenge--in determining the best way to get 
from the force we have to the force we want to have in 2030. 
This kind of mid-period transition is a challenge.
    When I hear phrases like ``divest'' and ``reinvest'' I am 
not skeptical about that. You have to do it. But I tend to 
think about them through the lens of workforce, being chair of 
the Readiness Subcommittee. As you make this transition it can 
be particularly challenging on our specialized workforces--
shipbuilding, aircraft production, certain electronic 
components.
    Do you think the fiscal year 2023 and the FYDP projections 
for procurement adequately address the sustainment of the few 
remaining manned aircraft production lines in the United 
States?
    Mr. Kendall. I do, Senator. We are continuing production on 
the F-35, not quite at the rate that we were at before. We are 
trying to wrap up production of the F-15EX over the next 2 
years, and so we actually accelerated, increased the rate there 
in order to do that more quickly. I cannot think of any other 
example. KC-46, we are continuing with that production line.
    So generally speaking we are continuing at a rate which we 
think will support the industrial base and allow them to 
support us going into the future.
    Senator Kaine. General Brown?
    General Brown. Senator, I would agree, and the thing I also 
think about is the fact that I do not want my staff to talk 
about divest and invest. It is how we make the transition from 
where we are today to get to the future. We have got to make 
sure we are still working on procurement and then still 
maintaining capability to support today's operations at the 
same time we make sure we are not taking undue risk that is 
going to impact us in the future. So it is a combination of 
those two that come together.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you. Now for Secretary Kendall and 
General Raymond, I want to ask about the space domain. It is 
getting crowded up there. You know, many nations have assets in 
space that have a defense or military purpose. The commercial 
platforms in space just proliferate dramatically, and they can 
have an impact upon defense missions. We have seen what 
Starlink has done in terms of providing internet service in 
Ukraine. So these commercial platforms have a security 
dimension to them as well.
    Then the third thing we have got to worry about in space is 
debris. One of my favorite government publications is NASA's 
Orbital Debris Quarterly. The debris can be accidental debris 
or it can be debris that is actually created to jeopardize 
other assets in space. It seems like an area where we have to 
do a lot to keep our platforms safe, but there is also probably 
need for more rules of the road on an international level to 
try to protect these very expensive assets in space.
    So talk a little bit about how, from the DOD perspective, 
you are focusing on the protection of our assets in space and 
whether there are international rules of the road that we 
should be considering to try to make sure that all these assets 
are protected.
    Mr. Kendall. Well, Senator, one rule that we recently 
talked about is the one the Vice President discussed recently 
on the norm prohibiting the type of destructive tests that the 
Russians conducted recently, which was very irresponsible. They 
created large fields of debris. General Raymond can talk about 
the numbers of objects we are currently tracking up there as a 
result of that one test. So we have got to get people to agree 
not to do that. That puts everything we have in space and low-
earth orbit, particularly, at risk.
    There are other norms that we have talked about with regard 
to proximity operations and so on, and the National Space 
Council I think has been working on some of these to try to get 
wider appreciation of the need to have things that allow us all 
to operate in space and to do so to the benefit of every 
nation, frankly. General Raymond I think will have more to say 
about that.
    General Raymond. You are absolutely right that space is 
becoming more congested, more contested, more competitive. If I 
were to testify in front of you 2 years I would have said we 
were tracking about 22,000 objects. Today we are probably 
tracking close to mid-40,000 objects. If I had said 2 years ago 
the numbers of satellites that we were tracking was about 
1,500. Today that number is close to 5,000, and the trends are 
going up. Everybody is proliferating access to space, largely 
because commercial space has reduced the cost to launch. It has 
enabled a lot more access.
    That provides us opportunities and it provides us 
challenges. On the challenges side we are working really hard 
to keep the domain safe for all. We act as the space traffic 
control for the world. We provide warning across the world to 
keep satellites from colliding. We demonstrate safe and 
responsible behavior by how we act, and we do so in partnership 
with our allies and partners. We are committed to keeping the 
domain safe for all.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, 
gentlemen, thank you very much for your service to our country. 
I want to take this opportunity to thank you for what you have 
been doing to make sure that the B-21 bomber program stays on 
time, on target. Folks in western South Dakota, Ellsworth Air 
Force Base, are truly looking forward to getting their first 
look at it, hopefully later on this year, and they most 
certainly want to be a part of the program, and they want to 
make sure that they are in a position to welcome the new crews 
and the new teams on board. I appreciate your cooperation in 
working with them to make sure that they know what to expect in 
terms of schools and so forth, and I am sure we will be able to 
work through all of that, make sure there are no delays in 
that.
    The B-21 seems to be an example of a platform plan which is 
working according to schedule. When I look back at some of the 
other challenges that we have it would seem that while we are 
going to be able to procure the B-21s in some reasonable 
fashion, we are probably going to need more than what we had 
originally estimated.
    General Brown, would you talk a little bit about what the 
expectations are for the B-21? I think originally we talked 
about a plan in which we would buy perhaps 100 of them. Would 
it be fair to say that in any of the new estimates, with near-
peer competition growing, that our demand for that particular 
platform will be greater than what we originally anticipated?
    General Brown. Senator, part of that is the ongoing 
analysis that we do to determine not only what we have already 
decided on but where we might need to, in this case, procure 
either more B-21s or other capabilities to complement the B-21, 
and this one of the operational imperatives that we are working 
through. In fact, if you look at a crewed and an uncrewed 
collaborative platform that can work very closely with the B-
21. So it may not mean necessarily an increased number of B-21s 
but it is additional capability to go with the B-21 as well.
    Senator Rounds. I think it would be fair to say that right 
now if we had--the F-22 is a good example of a platform in 
which we started out with one number that we wanted. Today I 
think there are very few of us that would say that we have 
enough F-22s that are mission capable, because even though you 
have a number of them a portion of them are always either being 
repaired or being used for training. So fair to say that even 
though we talk about 100 B-21s, what we are really talking 
about is some of them would be in maintenance, some of them 
would be for training. So we really would not have that many 
which would be on mission. Would you agree with me on that?
    General Brown. We will always have some that are in 
training or in some type of maintenance. The goal here as we 
look at this particular program is, as you described it, it is 
on track, and I think one of the key areas we want to take a 
look at is how we do a better job to make sure we are 
sustaining that aircraft and making it much easier for our 
airmen to maintain as well.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Secretary Kendall, this budget, 
this proposal this year plans for the elimination or the 
divestment of about 250 aircraft, but it looks like we are only 
going to be able to procure about 87 new aircraft. Granted 
there is, at least from what I can see, first of all some of 
the aircraft are flat out there Hangar Queens. They are there, 
they are on the inventory list, but they are really not 
operational, and the cost to maintain them, even to get them 
out, is such that it is really not worth the taxpayers dollars 
to try to continue to make them operational. But that also 
means then that we are going to end up with a shortfall with 
regard to the number of platforms we can put in the air.
    Is it fair to say that we are trying to do as many new 
platforms as we possibly can? Is the holdup the budget or is 
the holdup the inability of our manufacturing teams to be able 
to produce the number of new aircraft that we need?
    Mr. Kendall. We are trying to get the balance right and 
trying to sustain our support to combatant commanders, give 
them what they need while we go through this transition. So 
that is essentially what we try to do in the budget.
    What we are taking on includes a mix of systems. About 100 
of them are MQ-9s, which are actually not coming out. They are 
transferring to another government agency. We are taking out 
trainers, the T-1, which is our multi-engine trainer, and what 
we are going to do is something that is more like the 
commercial airlines, where pilots that are going down the 
multi-engine path will go directly from their primary trainer 
to the aircraft that they are going to actually operate. So we 
will actually have some efficiency in the pilot production line 
because of that.
    In the case of the F-22, we are taking our oldest and 
least-capable F-22s, about 33 of them. They are only used for 
training right now. So we can work on that capability of 
aircraft for training and have those aircraft available for 
contingency if we needed them in an emergency. But to have some 
efficiencies as well in terms of operating cost.
    So it is a mix of things that we are trying to do. Some of 
it is simply divesting to replace, as in the case of the 
tankers, for example.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, my time has 
expired. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you so very much for your service and your willingness to 
testify in front of the committee.
    General Raymond, we will start with you. The investment in 
Space Force in this year's proposed NDAA is pretty significant. 
We have a top line of $24.5 billion, and over $16 billion is 
marked for research and development.
    We are briefed constantly in this body about the speed of 
acquisitions, or lack thereof, and we know that the Chinese's 
acquisition timelines are much faster, sometimes three to five 
times faster in domains like space and cyber. It is so much 
quicker than the way we move at the Pentagon. I think that 
justification for a Space Force distinct from the Air Force 
requires a distinct 21st century culture that will move quickly 
to adapt and modernize with all of these new technologies and 
really closes the gap on where we are with our near-peer 
adversaries.
    So we hear all the time in posture hearings, we are 
bemoaning the fact that acquisition timelines are too long, we 
have these risk-averse cultures, and they really trouble the 
other services. You are a brand-new service. So how will you 
build that culture in Space Force that will ensure and 
encourage a fast-follower type model for private industry and 
is willing to assume that prudent risk and fail faster? So how 
can we do that? We want to make sure that you are successful 
but we have to compete with our near-peer adversaries.
    General Raymond. I could not agree more with you. We have 
to be bold and be innovative, and I think space provides an 
opportunity to do that. The model, the business model that we 
have used in the past in space are very large, very exquisite 
satellites that are very expensive and not very easily 
defendable. This force design work that we have done shifts us 
to less-exquisite, with higher numbers that allows us to adopt 
more of a business model that you might see commercial 
companies doing, and so that is on the transformation of our 
capabilities. That is the path we are headed down.
    On the people part of this, we are investing in developing 
and acquiring talent that has commercial experience. In fact, 
last year, when the Air Force Academy cadets graduated, 118 
were coming to the Space Force. They had a little bit of time 
before they were going to go into training and we sent them to 
commercial companies and said, ``Go figure out how they do 
that.'' So everything that we are doing is focusing on getting 
after a culture that can go fast, be agile.
    But I will tell you, it is not like Amazon Prime where you 
can order it overnight. It is going to take a little bit of 
time to build this, but that is exactly where we are headed.
    Senator Ernst. So with that model--and I am glad you 
mentioned the personnel aspect of that because we have to make 
sure that as new authorities are being pushed to the service 
branches, in your case Space Force, that your acquisition 
personnel are properly trained on those new authorities. Do you 
feel that they are receiving the training necessary to move as 
quickly as possible and use some of these new models?
    General Raymond. I am satisfied that the training allows 
them to do that. We have got great folks. I think just the 
capabilities that we had set us on a path that did not allow us 
to take risk, and what we are trying to shift towards is a 
model that does.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, thank you, and Secretary Kendall, just 
sticking on this theme as well, you had noted last week in 
front of HASC that the Chinese are better than us at, 
``starting a lot of new things and then taking them through to 
fielding''. Why is that? What is it that we can do differently? 
We have heard General Raymond talk about Space Force. How can 
we do this different in Air Force and our other service 
branches?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, I want to first take a little bit of 
issue with what you said earlier about how long it takes the 
Chinese to do things. They are actually not faster at 
engineering than we are. But what they do is, what I was 
talking about in the HASC was that they have made decisions 
quickly. I think somebody earlier mentioned how they can do a 
decision in 3 days and we take 3 years to do a decision, and 
then to get money it takes us time to get money and start 
because of the process that we go through here.
    But I looked recently at the J-20, their most modern 
fighter, for example, and the development time for that 
aircraft was comparable to the F-35. It was not remarkably 
faster.
    But they do seem to be very creative and innovative. They 
are studying how we fight, what we depend upon to project 
power, in particular, and designing systems that are intended 
to defeat us. I have talked to people earlier about how when 
the Soviets were in existence and they wanted to do a new 
program, the question of leadership I always asked was, ``Are 
the Americans doing it?'' If the Americans were not doing it 
then the Soviets did not do it either.
    But with the Chinese they do not care about what we are 
doing. They are looking at how we fight, what we depend upon, 
and they are being very creative about the things that they are 
buying to come after us.
    Senator Ernst. Good, thank you, and I do hope that we can 
continue with the model of efficiency and be less risk-averse 
as we move forward. We want to make sure that you have 
everything you need to succeed.
    Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Warren, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Kendall, 
I want to talk about this proposal to retire 33 F-22s that is 
part of the Air Force's budget submission. Now I have got to 
say, my ears perk up any time the Pentagon talks about wanting 
to cut costs, and I am inclined to support you on this. But how 
we got here is a real problem.
    The F-22 fighter jet designed to establish air superiority 
over enemies like Russia. The Air Force started buying them 
from Lockheed Martin in 1999, and said we would be using them 
until the 2060s.
    Secretary Kendall, you are Secretary of the Air Force but 
you used to run the acquisitions program for the whole 
Pentagon, so I know you know all of the issues behind this. 
When the Air Force started buying F-22s in quantity, was the 
testing and development for this aircraft complete or were we 
still figuring out a number of its major capabilities?
    Mr. Kendall. You raise a great question----
    Senator Warren. Yes.
    Mr. Kendall.--and I am afraid I do not know the answer. I 
was there for the F-22 Milestone B Decision. It was the 
decision to start development. I was not there for the 
production decision.
    Senator Warren. Okay, but----
    Mr. Kendall. But I understand where you are coming from, 
and I think it is really an interesting thing to pursue.
    The ones we are retiring are less capable. They were the 
first ones we bought and they did not have the full combat 
capability. So it would be worthwhile to go back and do the 
case study to understand why that is the case.
    We have a similar problem with F-35, where a lot of our 
earlier aircraft need a lot of modifications, and I know you 
are going to go to my acquisition malpractice comment.
    Senator Warren. You bet I am. But let's unpack this a 
little bit as we go forward, because it is my understanding, 
and I think the record shows pretty clearly that we started 
buying these planes before we had uncovered all the design 
deficiencies and capability shortfalls that had to be fixed in 
order to make them work the way they were supposed to work. 
These are very expensive planes, so we spent $6 billion on 
them. The GAO [Government Accountability Office] now estimates 
we are going to need to make upgrades that will cost $11.7 
billion, nearly double what we spent to buy them in the first 
place.
    I understand why the Air Force decided that was just too 
much and you want to retire these planes, and frankly, I 
applaud you for making the tough call. But the F-22 is not the 
only program where we have seen this problem. The GAO thinks we 
will have purchased a third of the F-35 fleet before testing is 
complete. I appreciate the capabilities of the F-35 and the 
role that they are going to serve in the military, but the 
process gives me pause here.
    Secretary Kendall, you know where I am going with this. You 
called the F-35 program, ``acquisition malpractice.'' Can you 
just say a word more about what you mean by that?
    Mr. Kendall. What I meant at the time that the decision to 
enter production was made before any flight testing of the 
production prototype, and so we did not have data to verify the 
design. It was not a stable design. My rule of thumb for 
aircraft programs is you should have about a year a flight 
testing under your belt, at least, before you commit to 
production.
    As good as our digital models are, and as more 
sophisticated they get, we just push our designs to be as close 
to the edge as possible. We often push for more performance 
than we have had before, so our models are not as good.
    There is always this tension, Senator, between people who 
are really, really anxious to get the new product. You know, 
they want that new, wonderful airplane that is coming out and 
they do not want to wait another 2 or 3 years to have you 
finish the design and then put on it the upgrades that are 
coming.
    The other factor that comes into it is that almost all of 
our aircraft evolve over time to respond to the threat. If you 
look at the F-16, for example, it has gone through a number of 
different models. You look at the F-15, the same thing. The F-
35 is now going through, you know, it is Technology Refresh 3 
and it generally gets Block 4 level of sophistication. Part of 
this is that the threat keeps changing, and part of it is that 
technology keeps changing.
    Senator Warren. Look, Mr. Secretary, I understand that. 
When the threat changes and we have to make adjustments I 
totally get that. But I would not buy a car from a car company 
that said, ``We are not sure if we have figured out all the 
details to keep this thing from bursting into flames, but do 
not worry. We are going to go ahead and sell it to you and 
later on you can buy the parts that will keep it from burning 
up.''
    You know, I think you have it right when you say we need to 
fly before we buy. Otherwise, we just run the risk of not only 
flushing money down the drain but time and effort that we put 
in this direction.
    So now we are replacing the F-22s, the ones that we are 
scrapping after having spent $6 billion on them, with the Next 
Generation Air Dominance program. I just want to make a point 
about this program. It is largely classified, and that may be 
necessary, but it also means there is going to be even less 
oversight over this program. No public reports, less public 
scrutiny from the GAO, from the DOD IGs [inspector generals] 
and from the press. This lack of transparency means the process 
that we have already seen fail us becomes an even riskier 
process.
    So I see that I am out of time. I would like to talk to you 
more about how we estimate the costs around this. But I would 
like to urge you to rethink this question about making it more 
transparent, what we are doing in the development of this new 
product.
    The American people are willing to pay what it costs to 
keep us safe. We want cutting-edge technology. But they do not 
want to be in the position of flushing more money down the 
toilet because we were out purchasing something before we even 
knew if it would work.
    So that is my request, Mr. Secretary.
    Mr. Kendall. I think you are slightly overstating the case 
with the F-22, because those earlier models were of use to us 
operationally and have been up until this time. It is not that 
they have no capability or that they have a defective design. 
It is just not upgraded to the state that we need to meet the 
current threat. It would cost--I think my number is about $2 
billion to upgrade those aircraft, $50 million apiece, roughly, 
and it is not a high enough priority for us to do relative to 
other investments.
    Senator Warren. I know we are out of time but I just want 
to say, it was sold as a $6 billion airplane that was going to 
meet these specifications and accomplish these ends, and now we 
are being told it will cost $11 billion extra to be able to 
meet those qualifications. That means there is something wrong 
in the process.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to all 
three of you for being here and for your service.
    First of all, I do want to join Senator Fischer in thanking 
the Air Force for maintaining the nuclear deterrent, keeping it 
on track, on target. All of that is fantastic, and thank you 
all for doing that.
    I want to talk a little bit, at first, about the radar 
station, the PARCS [perimeter acquisition radar attack 
characterization system] radar station at Cavalier. I sort of 
chuckle when I look at the three of you because all three of 
you have visited North Dakota in your capacity in the 
wintertime, and that is special. Particularly special, Mr. 
Secretary, was your visit to Minot right before Christmas. 
Thank you for that.
    But I have to say General Raymond visited Cavalier on a day 
when it was 41 degrees below--that would be zero, for those of 
you who do not know what below means--below zero windchill, so 
he knows a little something about how remote and how difficult 
an environment that is.
    But that radar is 50 years old, the PARCS radar, and I am 
concerned a little bit because this year's budget document say 
that the radar has, ``a high risk that equipment failures will 
cause unacceptable mission downtime.'' I believe that the last 
year's budget had some similar language to it.
    So my staff took a briefing recently from the program 
office that said they are planning for digital upgrade that 
would ``drastically decrease detection time, accuracy, and 
contributions to both missile warning and space domain 
awareness missions''. You have all talked about the importance 
of a lot of that, but I do not see the funding for it in this 
budget.
    So I will maybe start with you, General Raymond. You are 
obviously aware of the precarious situation at Cavalier. I know 
you are going to visit there again. What do you think? Do we 
need to upgrade?
    General Raymond. Sir, first of all, missile warning, 
missile tracking, and space domain awareness are critical 
missions, and Cavalier and the radar at Cavalier, the PARCS 
radar, is a very important radar. We have upgraded that 
throughout the years. We have spent about $22 million a year 
sustaining that, operating and sustaining that capability. The 
priority for this year's budget was the space missile warning 
segment because we have to get after being able to detect and 
track hypersonics.
    As you mentioned, the program office right now is looking 
at an analog-to-digital modernization effort and we will 
address that in the coming budget years.
    Senator Cramer. Great. Mr. Secretary, anything you would 
want to add to that?
    Mr. Kendall. No. I think General Raymond covered it pretty 
well.
    Senator Cramer. Beautiful. Thank you.
    General Brown, you and I and others have had very frank 
discussions, of course, about ISR [intelligence, surveillance, 
and reconnaissance] and the ISR retirements and the tradeoffs. 
There has been a lot of discussion already today again about 
how to balance all of that, and I appreciate that. Some of us, 
of course, had doubts about the retirement of the RQ-4, the 
Global Hawk, because Air Force ISR capacity really was not 
keeping up, at least with what many of the COCOMs would like, 
whether they need them all or not, but it seems like they could 
always use more. But we ultimately agreed, and I think based on 
your wisdom and your counsel to trade some capacity for new 
capabilities.
    But this year's budget is cutting even more Air Force ISR, 
even though the COCOMs are relating, in their hearings, that 
they need more. I am also hearing that you are looking at 
cutting some of the manpower, including up to maybe 30 percent 
at Grand Forks. Again, I have not confirmed that but we are 
hearing that.
    I just want to get a sense of your vision and goal in this 
transition.
    General Brown. Sure. Well, first of all I support your 
support. I know we got a chance to engage on this particular 
topic a number of times. There is no intent to cut any manpower 
at Grand Forks. Hopefully that will put you a bit at ease.
    Senator Cramer. It does.
    General Brown. One of the areas I would highlight, though, 
as we look at the ISR we have today versus the ISR that we need 
for the future, the ISR in the future needs to be connected, 
persistent, and survivable. Persistent we do have. Connected 
and survivable, not so much. I look forward to maybe talking a 
bit more. When we go to our closed session I can get into a bit 
more detail on the capabilities that we are pursuing, and this 
is something that I think will help us along the way.
    I would also offer the fact that how we get information 
today, not from our classified systems but also from our open 
source, plays a key role in how we bring all the information 
together. This our advanced management system and some of the 
other tools that help us with the decision superiority will 
actually add to, to cover some of the ISR from a different 
perspective as we look at how the character of war has changed.
    Senator Cramer. I appreciate that. I appreciate all of you. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed. It is really an 
important hearing that we are having here today on the Air 
Force. Secretary Kendall, I really appreciate you being here 
today, for taking the time to speak with me last week ahead of 
today's hearing. Of course, thank you to all the witnesses.
    I understand the Air Force has an updated legislative 
proposal to modernize the Nevada Test and Training Range. While 
I agree that modernization is critical for our national 
security and our overall readiness, I am disappointed that the 
Air Force once again did not work with me or the rest of the 
Federal delegation on its proposal, even after every Air Force 
senior leader promised that they would do so. Since learning of 
its existence, my staff and I have been asking for details on 
the proposal, but the Air Force has been reluctant to provide 
many.
    Our delegation, we have really enjoyed open lines of 
communication with the Navy as we work through its proposal to 
modernize Naval Air Station Fallon, and we just want to have 
the same relationship with the Air Force regarding your 
proposal to modernize the Nevada Test and Training Range.
    So Secretary Kendall, recognizing where we are in the 
calendar year, it seems likely that your proposal would be 
under consideration for the fiscal year 2024 NDAA. Can you 
recommit to me now that you will work with me and Senator 
Cortez Masto and the rest of the Federal delegation on this 
proposal which will be submitted to Congress for our 
consideration?
    Mr. Kendall. I would be happy to work with you, Senator. I 
have looked into this since we talked and there is some 
discussion within the Executive branch between agencies that 
has to take place to finalize the proposals. I think you are 
aware. The Intergovernmental Executive Committee that is 
involved is meeting in about 2 weeks, so hopefully that will 
free things up so we can move forward. I have asked my staff to 
share with you in general what our intentions are. We cannot 
share the specific proposal because it is going through the 
legislative proposal process. But we would be happy to work 
with you to try to make sure there is communication about what 
we are trying to do.
    Senator Rosen. I understand. At least talking generally 
about it is a good start.
    I also want to talk to you a little bit about housing for 
junior enlisted. It is an issue that I have been working on. 
Our junior enlisted servicemen, including airmen stationed at 
Nevada's Nellis Air Force Base, are averaging only 12 months in 
on-base housing. They are being forced to move off the base due 
to shortages. You know this. The troops are forced to cover 
their rental deposits and moving costs before they are eligible 
to begin receiving their basic allowance for housing, or BAH. 
It is why I have worked to include a provision in last year's 
NDAA directing DOD to brief Congress by March 1st of this year 
on the Pentagon's plan to provide partial dislocation allowance 
for these troops. We still have not received this briefing, and 
I recently heard from Nellis that none of their junior airmen 
who were forced to move out of the dorms received a dislocation 
allowance.
    So Secretary Kendall, why is not the Air Force supporting 
and providing our junior enlisted airmen with the dislocation 
allowance you are authorized to provide them?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator Rosen, I have looked into that as well 
and there is some relief available for the airmen who have to 
move off the base. They can apply for advanced base allowance 
for housing and accelerate payments for that. They are not 
currently getting dislocation allowance because of some 
limitations in the joint travel regulation, but we are working 
to change that and correct it. It is a DOD issue, not just an 
Air Force.
    Senator Rosen. We need to change that because the most 
junior enlisted airmen--and I know this is happening at other 
places--they are the least likely to be able to afford this. It 
is really putting a strain on them. We have authorized it. 
Let's have a discussion, because this is really hurting our 
service men and women, particularly the young ones. So thank 
you.
    I want to move on, in the time I have left, to talk about 
C-130J recapitalization, because Nevada's Air National Guard's 
152nd Airlift Wing in Reno, it flies its legacy C-130s in some 
of the hottest temperatures, highest elevations, and in the 
most challenging and mountainous environments of any C-130 
unit. Integral to their mission is flying the Modular Airborne 
FireFighting System. We call it MAFFS.
    Upgrading the Nevada Air National Guard's C-130 fleet with 
C-130Js would have a substantial impact on their readiness and 
the firefighting capabilities, not just in Nevada but the 
entire Western United States. I know you have seen the 
wildfires. They are just burning out of control. We are just 
plagued, and I cannot imagine it is going to get any better.
    So I am really discouraged that the Air Force is still not 
considering MAFFS when evaluating base candidates for C-130J. 
During last year posture hearing General Brown and then Acting 
Secretary Roth both committed to considering making MAFFS' 
mission part of the Air Force basing criteria for C-130Js.
    So, Secretary Kendall, again I am putting you in the 
hotseat. Can you update the committee where you are on the 
process? Can we get a commitment that the 152nd Airlift Wing in 
Reno will be seriously considered, given its critical mission 
to saving lives in the West?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, we will be looking at the special 
missions, for various special missions that C-130s do. MAFFS is 
an important one, obviously. We will be taking those special 
mission capabilities into consideration as we go through the 
basing decisions for the 130Js.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, I want to 
commend you again for your clear-headed and even single-minded 
focus on regaining our technological edge against China. I have 
supported those efforts in the past and I continue to support 
them now.
    General Brown, I want to talk to you a little bit about 
some of those efforts and something of a challenge you face. 
For a few years now the Air Force has talked to us about 
divesting certain assets. Those things are known there, 
apparent to the eye. Local communities depend on them, whether 
it is Little Rock or C. Moore Johnson or Nellis. But you are 
investing in a lot of things that we cannot necessarily see. 
Either they are in development or they are highly classified 
programs. These are capabilities, though, that we need to 
continue to outpace and deter China.
    I know we are going to have a closed setting later where we 
can touch on some of those as a committee, but can you just 
confirm you are going to provide in that closed session the 
classified details that we need on the following programs, the 
first would be the F-35 along with other future fighter force 
investments?
    General Brown. Senator, we will. If I could also add, one 
of the areas that I am focused on with my staff is to get as 
many briefings as possible, at the same time providing some 
unclassified talking points like we did for Grand Forks on the 
ISR being consistent, persistent, and survivable, so they have 
an idea of things they can talk about with their constituents 
as well as the other Members of the Congress.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. A second one is the future of air-to-
ground weapons and air-to-air weapons and that especially 
includes hypersonics.
    General Brown. I will be very happy to talk about that in 
the closed session.
    Senator Cotton. The future of ISR, you have already 
touched. Some key space capabilities I cannot even name here. I 
will ask you first and then turn it to General Raymond.
    General Brown. I really depend on General Raymond. I am a 
beneficiary of his capabilities.
    Senator Cotton. Okay.
    General Raymond. Sir, I look forward to talking to you in 
the closed hearing.
    Senator Cotton. Okay, and General Brown, we have touched on 
this with a few other Senators, the B-21. We will get a 
classified update on that as well?
    General Brown. You will.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. I just want to say that I understand 
some Senators' desire to have some of these programs at a lower 
classification level, and I do believe there are certain cases 
where the government overclassifies matters. But some of these 
are extremely sensitive programs, and if the Chinese or the 
Russians were to understand these capabilities it would put all 
of our troops and our Nation at graver risk in the future.
    Senator Warren said that we need to have more ability for 
oversight and transparency and she cited inspector generals and 
NGOs [nongovernmental organizations] and the press. That is 
what we are here for, though. NGOs' job is not to oversee the 
government. The press's job is not to oversee the government. 
They are not elected by the people and they are not vested with 
that authority under our Constitution. It is this institution, 
and in particular this committee, to oversee these programs. 
That is exactly what we do, even if they are highly classified.
    General Brown, I want to touch on another issue with you. I 
am concerned about the threat of China acquiring land and 
property in the vicinity of some sensitive bases. It is not 
just an Air Force problem. It happens across our military and 
our intelligence community as well. I just want to bring to 
your attention one specific project. This is at the Grand Forks 
Air Force Base in North Dakota. Fufeng, a Chinese company, is 
investing millions in a local corn mill there. Maybe it is just 
a corn mill, but it would also provide the potential, at least, 
for Chinese intelligence to engage in intelligence collection 
of various kinds, both signals collection and human collection.
    What is the Air Force's plans to be sure that that is not 
happening, not just at this one site in Grand Forks but at any 
of its bases around the country, if you can discuss that in an 
open setting?
    General Brown. I really cannot discuss that, the details, 
in an open session like this. I recently just became aware of 
this one in particular, but it is something we do pay attention 
to across the board.
    Senator Cotton. Good. I am glad to hear that. Again, it is 
a concern about all our military and intelligence installations 
around the country. It is not just Grand Forks. But Senator 
Cramer and I have discussed this at length. I would feel 
exactly the same if some giant Chinese conglomerate started 
building a facility outside of Little Rock Air Force Base as 
well. But I look forward to exploring that with you in a closed 
setting.
    Thank you, gentlemen.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Secretary Kendall, I 
had not expected to ask this question but based on the exchange 
with Senator Warren, I think it may be helpful and it may be 
necessary to do in a classified briefing, but it would be 
helpful with the F-22 and the F-35 to talk about some of the 
kinks that we are working out, technical kinks, and separate 
those from modifications that we are making specifically 
because we have identified new threats. We got a briefing a 
week or so ago, but I think that would be helpful.
    I, for one, think one of the reasons why the acquisition 
process is so difficult is we have a near-perfection 
requirement for specifications before we move forward. If we do 
not understand with some of these platforms, some of the more 
technically challenging ones, I can understand where you want 
to do a lot of homework, but in some respects we have got to be 
able to accept failure if we are going to actually learn from 
failure. I use SpaceX as a classic example of that. One of the 
reasons why they have got such a successful program now is they 
were prepared to go on TV and have what I think Elon Musk 
referred to as a ``rapid, unplanned disassembly.''
    So we cannot, on the one hand, say you have got to compress 
the time to value and then on the other hand say in every case 
it has to be perfect. I think maybe for a future hearing we 
should talk about that.
    You know, I have got a little bit of a history of bringing 
up the KC-10, and the KC-46 we are going to be happy to host 
down at C. Moore Johnson. But I was curious with the current 
conflict in Ukraine, the increase in refueling needs, and then 
gaming out how this conflict could go, if there is any thought 
process in the Air Force behind whether or not we are retiring 
KC-10s a little bit faster than we should, based on threats 
that we did not know about before February the 24th, or did not 
necessarily anticipate?
    Mr. Kendall. Yes, Senator, I am not aware of any impact 
coming out of the Ukraine lessons learned that would affect 
that. General Brown, do you want to comment?
    Senator Tillis. If you could also just give me an update on 
KC-46 and some of the technical challenges that we are working 
through. General Brown?
    General Brown. Sure. Nothing in a threat that actually 
would change where we are with the KC-46. What I will also tell 
you, we did send KC-46 to Europe for about 5 weeks and have a 
chance to work and support some of those operations, and even 
air refuel some of our NATO partners. The airplane performed 
very well. I think our airmen learned a lot while we were there 
about how to work in a deployed environment.
    As far as the KC-46, one of the key areas that we have been 
working on was the remote visual system. We have come to an 
agreement with Boeing on that and we will start that process 
here in about a year or so to start the conversion.
    But I have personally flown the airplane and flown on the 
airplane, and had a chance to talk to the airmen that operate 
it. They are very pleased with the airplane, and what we are 
finding is as we go through and certify different airplanes, we 
are about eight airplanes away from all of the fleets that we 
would actually be able to air refuel.
    So again, the airplane is going well. It does have some 
issues we are working through, but by and large it is meeting 
some of the requirements, and we will continue to work that 
with the other platforms we have, with the KC-10 and the KC-
135.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. General Brown, maybe sticking with 
you. I know that you are cutting the Active Duty end strength. 
To my understand some of that is primarily due to budget 
constraints. So if you did not have the budget constraint would 
you be able to use those personnel?
    General Brown. Well, all the personnel that were taken out 
of the Active Duty strength, and the Guard and Reserve--we are 
coming down in the Active, a little bit up in the Guard, and 
down a little bit in the Reserve--all of that is tied to force 
structure. So it is not arbitrary, just taking airmen out. It 
is tied to actual capability.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. So then it really was not budgetary 
driver for the force reduction?
    General Brown. No, it was not.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. General Raymond, Senator Cotton 
mentioned some of the classification and de-classification. I 
believe we were supposed to get a report due out at the end of 
March. We have not gotten that. Do we have any idea when we 
should expect to see that report?
    General Raymond. I know OSD policy, specifically the new 
ASD [Assistant Secretary of Defense], is working that, and he 
is doing the work. I do not have an estimate on when it will 
get to you.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. If you could report back and give us 
an expected due that I would be interested in hearing that.
    I guess a final question, I got a briefing before the 
Personnel Subcommittee. All of our service lines had some 
headwinds on recruiting. Air Force and Space Force seems to be 
maybe not as challenged as the Army. How are we doing on 
recruiting? What more do we need to do, as a matter of 
authorities or resources, to make sure you can hit your 
recruiting goals?
    Mr. Kendall. We do have issues on recruiting but we think 
we will be close to our meet our goals this year. Looking 
forward we are using up some of our delayed entrants in order 
to make that goal.
    So there are some headwinds, the economy and demand for 
labor, a few other things, that are impacting recruiting. We 
are addressing this at the Department level, the Department of 
Defense as well as the Department of the Air Force. We have a 
number of things, such as bonuses, that we are offering now, 
increased advertising, and so on, outreach to places we have 
not been able to go. Under COVID our recruiters could not get 
into schools for a long time so that has been a big setback and 
that is corrected now, in general, we are doing alot of things.
    I am not aware of anything that we need from the committee 
or from the Congress at this time, though.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis.
    Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. General 
Brown, I think the chairman of this committee is correct to 
worry aloud in his opening statement that the budget proposal 
comes against a backdrop of a very dangerous environment, 
including a very heated shooting war in Eastern Europe. Yet we 
have a list of $4.6 billion that are not funded, including 
hypersonic testing, F-35 procurement, and weapon system 
sustainments, among other things.
    Why aren't these in the budget request? I think I know the 
answer. You know, General Washington established a provision 
over two centuries ago that the military is answerable to the 
elected leadership of this country, and that is one of the 
crowning jewels of our system. I support that, and when the 
President tells you what to do, you salute.
    But am I to understand that hypersonic testing, F-35 
procurement, and this $4.6 billion worth of unfunded priority 
list would help us in this dangerous environment?
    General Brown. Senator, they would, and this is in addition 
to what we have in the budget, but these are the capabilities 
provided for the Air Force to be able to do what the Nation is 
asking it to do.
    Senator Wicker. So if we do not get them, what will the 
result of that be, General Brown?
    General Brown. Well, anything we do not have is going to 
drive some level of risk, and this is something that we talk 
internal to the Department of the Air Force and with the 
Department of Defense of how best to balance against the 
current threat and then also posture ourselves against a future 
threat.
    Senator Wicker. I hope it is going to be the position of 
Republicans and Democrats in this committee that these are 
risks we do not need to take in this current environment.
    General Brown, we know that you cannot predict the future. 
That is why the fiscal year 2022 budget planned for 2.2 percent 
inflation, and yet here we are, over 8 percent. What do you 
think the inflation will be for the things you need? I think it 
certainly will be more than 2.2 percent, and actually it's 5 
percent plus difference in predicted inflation and actual 
inflation. That is having a negative impact on the Air Force's 
fiscal posture, is it not? Is it more expensive for you now to 
procure the needed items and train airmen than it was for you 
last year? Therefore, would you support more funding through a 
defense supplemental in order to account for the difference in 
what we thought inflation as going to be and what it actually 
is?
    General Brown. As you might imagine, with inflation, as you 
said, I cannot predict the future. But as we see what is 
happening today and what the trend lines might be, the aspect 
for us really to come back and work with the Committee and the 
Congress on how best to approach this and how both internal but 
also with the committee on how best to approach where inflation 
is taking us, not only right now but what might happen here in 
the future, as well.
    Senator Wicker. So I am asking your advice on whether this 
committee and this Congress should come back and account for 
higher inflation in a defense supplemental.
    General Brown. Well, whether it is a supplemental or 
whatever other approaches you might take, what I am tell you is 
we do want to work with the committee and the Congress on how 
best to address inflation.
    Senator Wicker. Well, a defense supplemental would do it 
quicker, would it not, General?
    General Brown. It probably would.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Now let me also ask General Brown 
about undergraduate pilot training. The budget process proposes 
retiring 50 T-1 training aircraft, including many in my state 
of Mississippi. These requirements are part of the Air Force's 
shift to Undergraduate Pilot Training 2.5, which incorporates 
simulators to a larger extent. Do you expect to produce the 
quantity and quality of pilots needed in the Air Force by 
shifting to these virtual simulators in the Undergraduate Pilot 
Training 2.5 model?
    General Brown. I do, and I think one of the areas that--I 
go back to when I went to pilot training, you know, nearly 37 
years ago. The technology we have today in our simulator 
capabilities is much different from when I went to pilot 
training. So we are really taking a different approach and also 
understanding how our young people, our lieutenants that come 
to pilot training, how they learn and learn differently from 
the way I did. So I do see that we will still be able to make 
the numbers and provide the quality.
    Senator Wicker. How long has that been in the works?
    General Brown. We have been working on this process for 
probably about 3 to 4 years.
    Senator Wicker. It is not budget driven.
    General Brown. It is not budget driven.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, sir, and thank you all for your 
service.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to all the 
witnesses for being here.
    Mr. Secretary, if we could start with you. Can you tell me, 
just give me a sense with regard to the budget, what 
specifically does this budget request do to increase the Air 
Force's ability to deter a Chinese fait accompli situation in 
Taiwan in the next several years?
    Mr. Kendall. Generally I think it provides a number of 
capabilities that will effectively do that. It sustains the 
current force to a level which supports combatant commanders. 
It is acquiring systems like the F-35, though not quite at the 
numbers we would have originally intended, as well as 
transforming some other elements of the force structure with 
increased capabilities.
    Some of the capabilities I mentioned in my opening 
statement, however, will be longer. It will take longer to get 
them than the next few years, so there is a period of risk 
there.
    Senator Hawley. Well, you are hinting at what my concern is 
here, which is that you appear to be cutting capabilities that 
we could use to deter China in the near term in favor of making 
investments, which I support for the long term, but of course 
that sets us up with a scenario where when we are in this 
potential danger zone between now and, say, 2030, as Chinese 
capability ramps up, we want to be sure that we can deter and 
deny in that window as well. I am concerned that this budget 
may not have us on track to do that.
    Do you want to just respond to that, allay my concerns?
    Mr. Kendall. I do not think any potential adversary should 
underestimate the United States' military capability. We have 
the most powerful military in the world, by a wide margin, and 
anyone who wants to challenge us should recognize that and 
realize that we are prepared. It is a very ready military as 
well. It has global responsibilities, and because of that it is 
fairly large, but it can swing those capabilities from one 
theater to another fairly quickly.
    So any potential adversary I think should be given great 
pause when it looks at possibly taking on the United States, at 
any point in time. The risk is increasing over time because our 
adversaries, potential adversaries--China, who I am concerned 
about the most--is fielding increased capability over time. So 
we have to respond to that, and we are making marginal changes 
in the near term in order to have better capability in the 
longer term.
    Senator Hawley. Let me ask you specifically about the 
Pacific Air Force's, PACAF. This would be the point of the 
spear for the Air Force, is the point of the spear for the Air 
Force and the Pacific. Were all of the posture requirements 
identified by PACAF or this fiscal year, fiscal year 2023, this 
budget cycle, were they funded in the budget request?
    Mr. Kendall. We do not fund posture requirements per se. We 
fund organizations that then are used to provide forces to 
combatant commanders. There is a constant dialogue, and General 
Brown was very involved in this, about what portions of our 
force are forward and how, as we modernize, we take forces out 
and replace them.
    So there have been discussions about what forces to keep 
forward and as we retire certain aircraft, what should be 
changed in terms of forward posture. That is a continuing 
dialogue that really happens in the context of the Joint Staff 
and under the Secretary of Defense's direction.
    General Brown, do you want to comment about that a little 
bit more?
    General Brown. Sure. So part of that dialogue is not only 
with PACAF but also, in this case, with INDOPACOM [United 
States Indo-Pacific Command], with Admiral Aquilino, on his 
requirements, and balance that between all of our global 
commitments to be able to not only support INDOPACOM but also 
the other combatant commands, and EUCOM [United States European 
Command] is one of those today that you see.
    So there is a constant dialogue about how we base, how we 
posture, and how we actually train our airmen as well to handle 
really all the threats that we think we might face.
    Senator Hawley. So are you telling me, Mr. Secretary, that 
there are no unfunded requests from PACAF? They got everything 
they wanted?
    Mr. Kendall. I am not aware of their requests, the unfunded 
requests from PACAF. They may have them but I am just not aware 
of them.
    Senator Hawley. Okay, great. Could you take that for the 
record for me? If there are unfunded requests would you provide 
those to me?
    Mr. Kendall. Certainly.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you. Let's talk about long-range 
anti-ship missiles if we could. If we were to be in a kinetic 
situation with China, a fight with China, we would burn through 
LRASMs [Long-Range Anti-Ship Missiles] pretty quickly, would we 
not?
    Mr. Kendall. That would be speculating. We are acquiring 
some LRASM for the Air Force in our budget, and we probably 
will be doing more as we go forward.
    Senator Hawley. Here is my concern. Last year you requested 
zero LRASMs. This year it is 28. Combined with the 60 LRASMs 
requests by the Navy for fiscal year 2023 that means we are 
only buying 88 total LRASMs in this budget year. I mean, can 
our industrial base not produce more than 88?
    Mr. Kendall. I am not sure what the limitations is there, 
but LRASM is not our only anti-ship capability. There are other 
weapons that can be effective in that mission as well.
    Senator Hawley. So why are we not buying more then? Let me 
just put it to you that way. They are not the best bang for the 
buck? They are not efficient? I mean, help me get some clarity 
here.
    Mr. Kendall. We basically try to balance our munitions 
acquisition across all the different demands, and that is one 
of several. This is a new acquisition, I think, for the Air 
Force. So we are going to be integrating them into the force 
and learning how to use them. I would tell you there will 
definitely be more anti-ship capability going forward. Whether 
it is the LRASM or not, I am not certain at this point.
    Senator Hawley. Great. My time has expired. I will have a 
few additional questions for each of you for the record. Thanks 
again for being here.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Kendall, good to have you here. Thank you for 
your testimony. As we have discussed many times together, and 
you are well aware, Michigan's national defense footprint, 
including Selfridge Air National Guard Base and its A-10 and 
KC-135 missions that they have are critical for our national 
defense. It was an honor to host Deputy Secretary Hicks last 
year at Selfridge, so she could see the capabilities of that 
airfield firsthand, and for former Acting Secretary Roth to 
affirm the Air Force's commitment to Selfridge, writing in a 
letter to me as well as to Senator Stabenow, and I will quote, 
``As we adapt our Air Force to meet current and future national 
security challenges, Selfridge will continue to play an 
essential role,'' end of quote.
    So, Mr. Secretary, my question for you is do I have your 
commitment that Selfridge will continue to play an important 
role in the Air Force's long-term plans as those are developed?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator I have no reason to believe otherwise.
    Senator Peters. I appreciate that.
    General Brown, when speaking with Air Force Magazine on 
April 13th of this year, General Nahom stated that the Air 
Force needs to buy 72 new fighters a year in order to 
recapitalize a fighter force that can fight and win against a 
near-peer threat such as China. Yet the fiscal year 2023 Air 
Force budget only calls for 33 F-35s and 24 F-15EXs to be 
purchased this year. It also calls for overall cuts in terms of 
the F-15EX, about a 50 percent reduction, from 144 aircraft to 
only 80.
    By your own admission and statements that you have made, 
the F-15EX has several unique capabilities and for certain 
missions in particular, such as homeland defense, it is a 
superior platform to fifth-generation aircraft.
    So my question for you, sir, is why is the Air Force 
planning on reducing the procurement of a proven, capable 
platform that can help us recapitalize the National Guard's 
fighter fleet, and more importantly, free up fifth-generation 
aircraft for more relevant missions?
    General Brown. Senator, we, as an Air Force, we are 
committed to 72 a year. That actually helps us to bring down 
our average age, and there is some analysis that has been done 
to work through that.
    One of the things, as we went into this budget, was to 
balance the capability, not just from the fighter itself but it 
is also the weapons, it is the support and infrastructure that 
goes with it, which has put us in a position this year not to 
actually go after 72. So it is a balance of all the 
capabilities that need to come together to support the fighter 
force, we have a full capability, not just a partial 
capability, as we go forward.
    This will be a continuing dialogue and continuing analysis 
that we will do as an Air Force to make sure we have the full 
capability for each one of the platforms we do procure.
    Senator Peters. Given that, the last question, would you 
purchase more F-15EXs if you were appropriated funds to do so 
by Congress?
    General Brown. We would definitely consider that, but I 
would also, as we do that, I would also look at the weapons 
that go with the platform so we actually have not only the 
capability but the capacity to go with those particular 
fighters.
    Senator Peters. Very good.
    Secretary Kendall, I have sent a letter to Secretary Austin 
regarding my concern's with the Department missing some 
critical PFAS reporting deadlines, including both a deadline 
that requires the Department to explain a delay in reaching 
agreement with the state on proposed CIRCLA cooperative 
agreement cleanup plan as well as a March 1, 2022, deadline for 
reporting to Congress on status of PFAS remediation at 50 
priority military installations.
    Two of those installations are located in Michigan. PFAS 
remediation remains a high priority for all Michiganders, 
including myself. My question for you, Mr. Secretary, is what 
are your PFAS-related priorities, and just given the sheer 
scale of the contamination challenge that we face right now, 
how will you use your limited budgetary resources in the most 
effective way to deal with this problem?
    Mr. Kendall. PFAS is a well-recognized and national 
problem, of course, in the Air Force because of its use of it 
in firefighting and training over the years. That is obviously 
been a big source of that getting into the environment.
    We are working through the CIRCLA process, and I think we 
are doing assessments, generally, now. We are well into that 
and finishing that. What we are all waiting for, of course, is 
for an EPA standard that will help us understand what the 
remediation requirements are going to be, and then we will be 
able to move forward on remediation as well.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, and I appreciate your focus on 
this very important issue.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    I am going to recognize Senator Sullivan. We have a 
confidential session, closed session, afterwards, so if we can 
restrict our questions to 5 minutes I would appreciate it. 
Thank you.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
good to see you. I want to begin by thanking you for your 
service to our country, which has been exceptional from all 
three of you. I also want to compliment the Air Force in a big 
way. You know, General Brown, Mr. Secretary, the F-35 bed-down 
at Eielson started on April 20th. A pretty difficult time if we 
all remember April--I am sorry, April 2020, and I am sure you 
have heard the last F-35 of the two squadrons has arrived. So 
on time, on budget during the biggest pandemic in 100 years. It 
is remarkable--remarkable work by the Air Force. I do not even 
know how you did that, so thank you.
    As you know, that now provides Alaska with over 100 fifth-
gen fighters. No place on the Planet Earth has 100 combat-coded 
fifth-gen fighters. I think the Russians and the Chinese 
certainly are noticing, so I appreciate that exceptional work 
by your team, and please pass that on to all the members in 
Alaska and everybody else who made that happen. It was a really 
incredible feat, so thank you very much for that.
    Secretary Kendall, and for both generals, I have been 
disappointed, to be honest, by the budget submitted by the 
President. Last year he put forward a budget that was real 
defense cuts. Secretary Austin and Chairman Milley testified a 
couple of weeks ago, saying this was the biggest threat 
situation globally they have seen in 50 years and yet the 
budget is a 4 percent cut--4 percent increase, 8 percent 
inflation is an inflation-adjusted 4 percent cut--to the 
Department. Are you supportive of that kind of cut, Mr. 
Secretary?
    Mr. Kendall. I do not believe we made a cut. I think we had 
a significant increase, at least in the Air Force and the Space 
Force.
    Senator Sullivan. Overall, I am talking about.
    Mr. Kendall. Overall we are 11 percent above the 2022 
request. We are 6 percent, I believe, above the 2022 enactment.
    Senator Sullivan. No, I asked for the overall DOD budget. 
It is a 4 percent cut by any measure.
    Mr. Kendall. I am not sure how you are doing your math, 
Senator.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, I will do my math right now. Four 
percent increase from last year, which we boosted because the 
President put forward a weak defense budget. We increased it 
here in the Armed Services Committee. Eight percent inflation, 
which is actually 8.5 percent. That is pretty simple math, Mr. 
Secretary. That is a 4.5 percent real inflation-adjusted cut to 
the Department of Defense. Maybe you can just wave off and say 
you are in charge of the Air Force, but do you support that? 
That is a cut.
    Mr. Kendall. We are prepared to work with the Congress on 
inflation. We know that inflation is uncertain right now for 
2023.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, look. I know that a number of our 
uniformed members do not support this but have to because the 
President is the Commander in Chief, and I understand that and 
I actually respect that. But we do not have to support the 
President's budget. We did not last year, and I doubt we will 
do it this year, in this committee.
    Let me ask, Mr. Secretary, with regard to the Joint Pacific 
Alaska Range Complex, JPARC, I have been briefed on the need 
for the Joint Range Operation Center, the JROC, as a necessary 
item to integrate highly classified systems on fourth-, fifth-, 
and sixth-generation aircraft, simulating combating and 
superior adversaries. A number of folks have seen that as very 
important. Should we expect to see this as a priority in the 
Air Force's budget, both the JPARC upgrades and the JROC, that 
will enable us to not only operationalize the training there 
but to make it have implications for real-world contingencies?
    When I went to Northern Edge last year with Admiral 
Aquilino this was a topic that was on everybody's mind. I know 
you and I have talked about it. General Brown, I would welcome 
your view on this as well.
    Mr. Kendall. JPARC is obviously of great importance to us. 
It is one of our premier ranges. It is critical for us to be 
able to train the way we need to train.
    I do not have information for your now, and I will have to 
take it for the record, on the specific facility that you asked 
about.
    Senator Sullivan. The JROC? General, do you have a view on 
that?
    General Brown. JPARC is one of our key ranges. The other 
one is the Nellis Test and Training Range and JPARC is the 
second. As we look at our range complex across the Air Force, 
those are the two primary ones that we want to upgrade. I will 
have to look into the details on the JROC, but knowing you have 
got to have that capability in order to actually be able to 
operate and train like we need to for an increasing threat.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator King, please.
    Senator King. I will have several questions in the 
classified session, but a couple of questions. First, Mr. 
Secretary, it is good to see you again. Thank you. 
Congratulations.
    How are we doing on the sustainment costs of the F-35? Are 
we making progress? Is that a black hole or is that something 
that we have an opportunity to fix?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, I think there is still opportunity 
there. We have worked that hard over the years. The costs of 
the F-35 are roughly comparable to, say, the F-15. They are not 
dramatically out of line but that does not mean we cannot work 
harder to get them down. We are modernizing the Alice 
[phonetic] system, for a number of reasons, part of it 
operational and partly to reduce cost. There are problems with 
the engine that need to be addressed to try to reduce the cost 
there.
    Part of this is about readiness and about having the 
operational availability that we need as well as about reducing 
costs. It is going to be an ongoing, continuous effort.
    As we modernize the system and go through Block 4 hopefully 
we will get the systems that are more reliable as well and 
reduce sustainment costs there.
    Senator King. You mentioned availability. How does the Air 
Force stand up against Delta Airlines, for example, in terms of 
readiness and availability of its aircraft?
    Mr. Kendall. I think the short answer would be not well, 
but we have a very different operating model. I have been to 
Delta and looked at how they do their maintenance, for example. 
It is built around keeping their aircraft constantly in the air 
to provide revenue, essentially. We try to provide combat 
readiness, so it is a very different model.
    But nevertheless, there is a lot we can learn from airlines 
like Delta in terms of how to keep the fleet current and manage 
the resources that you have much more effectively.
    Senator King. I hope so, because that is one of the answers 
to the financial problem is to have more planes ready to fly.
    On that note, where are we with the KC-46? Are the problems 
behind us? Are we ready to deploy those or is it still being 
worked out with Boeing?
    Mr. Kendall. We are using the KC-46 operationally. We just 
signed an agreement with Boeing to do the redesign of the 
remote vision system that is used for refueling by the operator 
controls and refueling. We have some other technical issues 
that they are working on to resolve. Right now we are able to 
service about 85 percent of our types of aircraft we have to 
refuel, and that is up pretty dramatically from where we were a 
year ago.
    So the trends are very much in the right direction. We 
still have a little way to go to get the product that we 
absolutely have to have. I never project how an acquisition 
program is going to go. I think that is folly because they 
always have problems. But I think given the progress that has 
been made we can be reasonably hopeful about where we are going 
to be in terms of where we will end up with the aircraft.
    I make the analogy to the C-17, which was plagued with 
horrendous difficulties for years and ended up being a product 
that we are all very happy to have now.
    Senator King. With regard to personnel rather than 
equipment, we have had a lot of discussion here about a 
shortage of fighter pilots and also a shortage of maintainers. 
Are we making progress on those two fronts? At one point, I 
cannot remember, I think we were short 1,500 or over 1,000 
fighter pilots. How are we doing in that, both in recruitment 
and retention?
    Mr. Kendall. We have brought the backlog or the gap in 
fighter pilots down by about 300. It was on the order of 1,800, 
and we brought it down to about 1,500.
    The shortage we have is not actually in units that have 
people flying. It is in rated officers who serve in staff jobs, 
where we want that kind of expertise available to help us with 
staffing functions. So we are managing our way through this, 
but it is something we are addressing.
    We are particularly interested in trying to increase the 
diversity of our pilots, our members in that operational career 
field, and C.Q. Brown can talk about that a little bit. We have 
not made the progress we would like to have made in that area, 
so we are doing a lot to reach out to communities that we would 
like to be able to draw from, and we are trying a number of 
initiatives to open up the opportunities to serve in aviation, 
to become a pilot, to be in the Air Force to groups that might 
not have that expectation. That is starting to bear some fruit, 
I hope.
    On the maintenance side, I am not aware of any critical 
shortfalls there, but let me ask General Brown to comment on 
that.
    General Brown. The only thing I would add to that, Senator, 
on the maintenance piece, is that there are maintainers that 
are actually operating the systems we have today that are the 
same maintainers that we are going to actually have to 
transition to the capabilities we are going to procure. As we 
maintain some capability, if we maintain it too long then we 
cannot actually man and maintain the aircraft that are coming 
off the production line and coming into our units. So there is 
balance of how we make that transition.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    I have got just a few seconds left. General Raymond, you 
are doing well on recruitment, I trust. This year's Air Force 
Academy graduates, do they want to join the Space Force?
    General Raymond. Sir, we are going to commission 101 here 
in another few weeks into the Space Force. Recruiting is going 
very well.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    Final point, congratulations, Mr. Secretary, on the 
emphasis on R&D [research and development]. Wars are generally 
won on new technology, and I think you are putting money 
exactly where it needs to be. I want to commend you on that 
budget priority. Thank you.
    Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
all so much for your service to our Nation and for your time. 
General Brown, thank you for your time last week on the phone. 
I appreciated the conversation about hypersonics and AEDC 
[Arnold Engineering Development Center] and that importance to 
us in Tennessee.
    We talked some about ARRW [Aerospace Rescue and Recovery 
Wing], and so, Secretary Kendall, I want to come to you on 
that, because the reports indicate, recent reports indicate 
that you are looking to move that funding away from ARRW and 
the hypersonics, and you are looking to pivot to R&D. So if you 
would, talk about the implications of this decision and moving 
away from ARRW, what that is going to mean to how you use those 
funds, where they are going to go, critical infrastructure, and 
how can Congress support the R&D that is necessary for ARRW and 
hypersonics?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, we fully funded ARRW for research and 
development for the development of the program in the 2023 
budget. We have not funded procurement yet, and ARRW, as I 
think you know, has had a series of test failures. As much as 
we are encouraged to have failures we have to have success 
before we can move forward to production. There are, I think, 
two tests that are planned over the next several months that 
will give us a better indication of where we are in the 
program, and then we will look at it again as we----
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Let's talk about that, because 
General Brown and I talked a little bit about how we become 
less risk averse. Because there has got to be a way to do this, 
especially when you look at the Communist Chinese and the 
amount of emphasis that they are putting on hypersonics, what 
you see happening in North Korea with hypersonics. There has to 
be a way that the Air Force says we are accepting failures 
because we learn from failures, and maybe even looking at this 
as there is no such thing as a failed test because we have to 
be learning and become competitive.
    Mr. Kendall. Yes, it is well understood in engineering that 
tests are ways to learn about your product and find problems 
and fix them. Eventually, though, you do have to get to 
successful performance in order to go ahead and field.
    The best place to have failures and to tolerate them is in 
the early stages of technology maturation, when you are doing 
experimental prototyping to demonstrate whether or not 
something can actually be done at all. Once you are committed 
to a product that you want to take to production, you have a 
different----
    Senator Blackburn. We understand that. We understand that. 
But what we are concerned about is falling behind.
    Mr. Kendall. I agree.
    Senator Blackburn. There has to be a balance brought to 
this, where you are doing the appropriate R&D. AEDC is the 
place for doing much of this R&D, and testing, which we have to 
be committed to that testing phase so we can get to procurement 
and deployment, and those necessary components. But it also 
means that we have to invest in infrastructure and maintenance 
so that we have the ability to do that. I hope you will commit 
to visiting AEDC with me.
    Mr. Kendall. I think I have made that commitment before, 
and I will do so, Senator.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, that sounds good.
    General Raymond, I want to move to Space National Guard. 
There is quite a bit of interest in this. Some of us have 
legislation that would move forward with establishing a Space 
National Guard. Of course, we have wanted to do this--we have 
asked several times for reports, is the best way to say it, on 
the value and the feasibility of establishing a Space National 
Guard but we have not received reports.
    So what can you tell me about where that is in the process?
    General Raymond. When the law established to establish the 
Space Force, or passed to establish the Space Force, Congress 
directed us to do a study, and we have done those studies. The 
number one legislative proposal that we have this year is to 
take the Reserve forces and Active and push them together in 
one. It is a legislative lift, but we want to work with the 
committee to do that.
    On the Guard side, today we have been operating with the 
Guard for 25 years.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. In my time left, then, what is the 
most effective and efficient way to make certain we have a 
Space Force National Guard?
    General Raymond. There are several ways you can do it. 
There are three ways. You can have a separate----
    Senator Blackburn. Best way.
    General Raymond. Best way is one of two. Either have a 
separate Space National Guard or take the capabilities from the 
Guard and move them into this one component.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Secretary, as you know, any modern-air combat requires 
substantial jamming capability and suppression of enemy air 
defenses. I personally benefitted from that in the first Gulf 
War, often, flying with prowlers right behind me, shooting 
anti-radiation missiles.
    As you know, currently the Air Force is transitioning from 
EC-130H aircraft to EC-37B for the Compass Call mission. The 
last of the 14 remaining EC-130s are supposed to retire in 
early 2026, and currently the Air Force has only funded 6 of 
the 10 replacement aircraft. So while I was really pleased to 
see an additional 4 Compass Call EC-37Bs listed as the Air 
Force's number two unfunded priority. I am also concerned with 
the fiscal year 2023 budget treatment of this capability, which 
requires Congress to find the funds to make this request a 
reality.
    So, Mr. Secretary, how important is the EC-37B Compass 
Call's role in maintaining our decisive advantage in the battle 
space, and how does the platform fit within the Department's 
operational imperatives?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, it is important, but like any similar 
aircraft against the most advanced threats it is going to have 
some issues with survivability. The judgment was made in the 
course of doing the budget that the inventory of six would be 
adequate to meet our needs. I know that General Brown has 
suggested that we should have more than that, but I will let 
him address that.
    Senator Kelly. So if you do receive additional funding, 
what is the plan? Do you want to still rapidly field a minimum 
of 10 airplanes?
    Mr. Kendall. If the Congress provided additional resources 
we would use them as directed.
    Senator Kelly. Okay, and maybe in the closed session we can 
discuss some of those vulnerabilities and the plan to get 
around those.
    General Raymond, I want to ask you briefly about anti-
satellite testing and capabilities. So the Administration 
recently announced an intent to ban anti-satellite, or ASAT, 
tests. As someone who has flown in space and had to maneuver 
around these debris clouds, particularly the one in 2007, 
created by the Chinese, I have witnessed the devastating 
effects that this irresponsible testing can have, ASAT testing, 
and what it can do to low-earth orbit and our ability to 
operate there.
    You know, I do believe we need to lead from the front on 
this issue and I applaud the Administration's steps here. 
However, it is clear that our adversaries do not share this 
goal, and this policy should not impede our military readiness, 
much like the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty did not impede our 
ability to field a nuclear triad. It is imperative that we 
continue to develop our Nation's space capabilities.
    So how will the U.S. Space Force continue to develop the 
capabilities needed to maintain a competitive advantage in 
space, in a responsible manner, despite the Administration's 
call for an end to ASAT testing?
    General Raymond. I could not agree more with you and your 
words, and I look forward, in the closed hearing, to go into a 
lot more details. We do not need to test capabilities in a 
destructive way, and I think to do so is irresponsible and not 
a behavior that we appreciate. So there are plenty of 
opportunities for us, and I really looking forward to talking 
to you more about that in the classified hearing.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you, General, and Mr. 
Chairman, I yield back the remaining minute.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Can you hear me?
    Chairman Reed. Yes.
    Senator Scott. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, can you 
tell me how you will anticipate using A-10s over the next 5 
years?
    Mr. Kendall. A-10s still have some utility in certain 
situations--counter-insurgency, counterterrorism, in 
particular.
    Senator Scott. Are you using them----
    Mr. Kendall. They are less useful against more advanced 
threats.
    Senator Scott. All right. But there is no place where you 
are using them today. Is that right?
    General Brown. We do not have them deployed right now, 
today.
    Senator Scott. So in your budget you are continuing to 
maintain these aging A-10s, and then it seems to me that what 
we are doing is that you have got--you are only requesting 33 
F-35As, which is the fewest since 2015. Does that make any 
sense? I mean, why do we keep these maintainers on the A-10s 
which we are not going to use and we do not anticipate using, 
and then we do fewer F-35s?
    General Brown. Our goal, Senator, is to transition away 
from the A-10, and what I want to have, from a nuclear fighter 
fleet, multi-capable, multi-role platforms. The intent here is, 
as we retire the A-10, just to take those maintainers and those 
operators and put them into the other capabilities like the F-
35 and the F-15EX.
    Senator Scott. But in your budget you are still maintaining 
A-10s. I mean, we do not have unlimited dollars, right? So it 
just does not seem logical that we are continuing to maintain 
A-10s and then you have less money to get F-35s. I mean if it 
is just politics I get it. I mean, you can tell me it is just 
politics. But that does not seem to make much sense.
    General Brown. Part of it, Senator, is the transition and 
our ability to transition and maintain some level of 
capability, not only for today's combatant commanders but as we 
make the transition what our future commanders will require.
    It is something that we have talked about, as you might 
imagine, over the years, of how we make that transition, and it 
is something we will continue to work with this Congress and 
this committee on how best to do that.
    Senator Scott. General Raymond, it was previously 
understood that the Air Force, Space Force, and the National 
Guard Bureau all agreed that it was prudent to establish a 
Space National Guard. Now OMB is fighting this, and claims the 
establishment of Space National Guard will cost hundreds of 
millions of dollars--I do not think that is true. There is no 
need to establish a Space National Guard in every state, and I 
do not think that OMB should be saying that otherwise. It seems 
to me that we only need about 17 units across 7 states. So do 
you think that makes sense?
    General Raymond. We have been operating with the Guard for 
25 years. They are in eight states and one territory. We have 
839 guardsmen that perform space missions, and those are 
critical folks today operating critical capabilities for us 
today.
    Senator Scott. Okay. So in your opinion it would be more 
cost-effective and operationally efficient if we established a 
Space National Guard?
    General Raymond. There are several ways you can do this. 
There are several courses of action. You can establish a Space 
National Guard, you can have the Air Force National Guard 
continue to support us, like they do today, or you can take the 
capabilities out of the Guard and move them into this one 
component. There are several different options. The NDAA of 
last year directed us to do a study, and we will do that and 
come back to you with more thoughts on that.
    Senator Scott. Okay. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, 
let's go back to the A-10s. I mean, it is just pure politics? 
Does it not bother you? I mean, you have unbelievable 
expectations. You watch what is going on in Europe. You watch 
what is going on in Communist China. You do not have an 
unlimited budget. I just do not get this idea that we have to 
maintain something that we are not anticipating using any time 
again, and we are not spending enough money on F-35s.
    So in your opinion what would you do? I mean, forget what 
you have to do based on your jobs. What is your opinion of what 
we should do with A-10 versus more F-35s?
    Mr. Kendall. Senator, we are divesting, I think, 21 A-10s 
in this budget, in Indiana, replacing them with F-16s. We would 
expect to divest additional A-10s in the future.
    General Raymond. We are continuing on the path of the 
transition away from the A-10 to the F-35 and F-15EX.
    Senator Scott. But is your money--would you keep 
maintaining the A-10s?
    General Brown. Part of this again, Senator, it is a 
transition away from the A-10 to where we are today. As you 
might imagine, I cannot predict the future, but my sense is we 
are not going to be in many environments where the A-10 will 
survive, which is why we have got to make the transition away.
    Senator Scott. Thank you for what you are doing, I do not 
think your jobs are easy, and good luck.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Manchin, please.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    This will be to all three and I will start with General 
Brown. Just you all's evaluation from a professional level what 
you can share with us today in the whole Ukraine-Russia, or let 
us say Putin war on Ukraine in the air, the air war that is 
going on there, and the perception of a lack of defense or lack 
of a force coming from Ukraine, or the support of NATO or us. 
People have criticized why did we not do this, why did we not 
get more involved, air cover, why did we not do a complete 
support of air retaliation.
    Can you speak on that, General Brown, just in generalities? 
I know from detail you cannot get into it, but if you evaluate 
the Ukraine, what Russia has done, how we have been able to 
defend, why Ukraine is not flying the planes they already have, 
but they are asking for more, and they want air cover or 
basically they want a no-fly zone?
    General Brown. I cannot speak to exactly why the Ukrainians 
are not flying. I know they are doing some flying. But what I 
would tell you, Senator----
    Senator Manchin. They do have aircraft. I mean, they are 
not utilizing all their aircraft that they already have access 
to. Is that correct?
    General Brown. That is somewhat correct.
    But here what I will tell you, Senator. Air superiority 
cannot be assumed, and one of the things that the Ukrainians 
have been able to do, based on their air defense capability, is 
actually threatens the Russian air power. From that aspect it 
is a combination of not only what you are able to do with the 
airplanes in the air but what you are able to do with your 
other defenses. That is something, I think, as you look at 
the--I would say the Ukrainians have been fairly successful in 
using their air defenses.
    Senator Manchin. Are you talking about the missile defense, 
things of that sort?
    General Brown. Some of the missile defense. Some of the 
capabilities they already had indigenous into the Ukrainian 
Armed Forces. They have had some capability and they made it 
more challenging for the Russians from an air power 
perspective.
    Senator Manchin. I am just saying I have not heard any 
attacks coming from their air, from the Ukraine Air Force, if 
you will, and the planes they already had. I heard it is coming 
mostly from basically air and missiles or that were drones and 
things of that sort.
    Secretary, if you had any information you could share in an 
open meeting like this?
    Mr. Kendall. I do not think I have any we can share in an 
open forum. We might have some information we can give you in a 
classified setting.
    Senator Manchin. We are going to that next.
    General Raymond, did you have any observation you want to 
share?
    General Raymond. I would just----
    Senator Manchin. People are interested. They ask me all the 
time, and I want to let them know that we are supporting every 
way possible, Ukraine.
    General Raymond. I think it is clear that the character of 
war has changed, as I said in my opening statement, and I think 
this war shows the value of space being able to provide 
information. I think one of the things is that it also showed 
the value of commercial capabilities, and commercial space 
specifically, and being able to share intelligence more 
broadly, being able to shape the gray zone operations. So it 
has been really important.
    Senator Manchin. General Raymond, this will be for you all. 
You know you have one of the smallest uniformed services within 
the Department of Defense, and I know you are actively getting 
the best of the best. I would just ask, where do you stand on 
the Space National Guard? If that is a way, there are a lot of 
talented people all over this country. I know in West Virginia 
National Guard they are ready to go. How are you looking at 
that?
    General Raymond. Yes, sir. Today we operate with 839 
guardsmen. We have been operating with them for 25 years. They 
are really important to us. They are limited in states on where 
they are located. They are located in eight states and a new 
unit that is standing up in Guam, and so those capabilities 
that are there and the people that are there are very important 
to us and we cannot do our job without them.
    Senator Manchin. Are they integrated into the space part?
    General Raymond. Currently they are in the Air National 
Guard and they support us in the Space Force, like they did 
when we were in the Air Force. That has continued.
    Senator Manchin. You all are actively involved in 
evaluating their capabilities of where you might have the 
strongest support?
    General Raymond. Absolutely. Yes, sir.
    Senator Manchin. Secretary Kendall.
    Mr. Kendall. I will just add that those people are 
important to the Space Force and we want to keep them. The 
exact mechanism by which we do that and how they are titled and 
structured, I think we are open to discuss.
    The concern the Administration had, I think, was that we 
would create a lot of overhead costs associated with a new 
organization. There were concerns that CBO had, I think, about 
establishing a headquarters and so on. I do not think that is 
necessary. I think we can find a way to keep those people doing 
what they are doing. They are a very valuable part. They are 
significant fraction of the Space Force. They are about 10 
percent of the force right now.
    So we want to keep them around. They are important to us. 
They are valuable. Obviously we need to find the right 
mechanism to do it.
    Senator Manchin. We are very proud of the West Virginia 
National Guard, and they do an unbelievable job, and so much 
talent is coming from different arenas that I think can be 
very, very supportive.
    Thank you all for your service. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin.
    Senator Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
gentlemen, for joining us today.
    I have advocated consistently in this committee for combat-
credible air mobility and aerial refueling capabilities that 
need to reside not just in our Active component but that 
maximizes the incredible combat power of our Guard and Reserve 
components. I applaud your use of total force integration, or 
TFI, in your concept of operation for the KC-46. Formally 
associating Active Duty units with Guard and Reserve units 
truly acts as a combat multiplier for our crewed airlift 
squadrons.
    Yet I am deeply aware of the challenges classically 
associated that units face as they star to employ TFI 
operations. It can take years to build the administrative 
processes, and most importantly, the trust between Active and 
Reserve components working shoulder to shoulder.
    General Brown, could you comment on the value of total 
force integration for units that provide vital capabilities 
like aerial refueling, and how does this concept of integrating 
Active and Reserve component servicemembers impact the total 
Air Force's readiness operations and budget?
    General Brown. There is great value in our total force, and 
when I think about our airmen both that are Active Duty but 
also that are Guard and Reserve, and the experience that they 
have had, it is tremendous. I will just tell you that I have 
watched this over a number of years. When I was a lieutenant 
colonel in the Pentagon I ran the Total Force Initiative 
program operational planning team to actually get us on a path. 
Hill and Langley were a couple of examples. Vermont was another 
example.
    What we have learned here, you kind of talked about the 
culture and the trust. We have come a long way in the past--I 
would say it has probably been about 17 years when that 
occurred.
    So great value in the ability to work very closely with our 
Guard and Reserve, and it gets to a point where you almost 
cannot tell the difference, when we all go out and deploy and 
operate together. That is the real benefit of the total force.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, General. I am proud of the 
excellent track record of successful total force integration 
operations at the 126th Air Refueling Wing out of Scott Air 
Force Base in Illinois. The recently won their tenth Air Force 
Outstanding Unit Award, which is their third in a row. I am 
very proud of them.
    Looking past the final fueling of the KC-46, though, the 
future of aerial refueling is somewhat ambiguous. We agree that 
the future concept of aerial refueling may look vastly 
different from today, and I appreciate that developing this 
concept of operations and the technology to enable it will take 
time and investment from both government and industry. It is 
imperative that we are transparent in our industrial base and 
suppliers as to our plans. This transparency builds the trust 
needed to achieve our future combat capabilities and ensure 
that we are not left with a critical capability gap.
    Secretary Kendall, how are you working with our defense 
industrial base to provide transparency on the KC-Y commercial 
derivative tanker plans, and when do you intend to start 
identifying requirements for the future KC-Z tanker to ensure 
that the Air Force stays on track to replace our aging KC-135 
fleet by the mid-2050s with the fully capability tankers 
required to meet the needs of USTRANSCOM and the other 
combatant commanders?
    Mr. Kendall. That is a great question, Senator Duckworth. 
Our plan for the tanker fleet is evolving over time, and we are 
having to react to what the threat is doing. At one time we had 
a plan that the KC-46 would be followed by the KC-Y, as what we 
called a ``bridge tanker'' to a future KC-Z, which had not 
really been defined.
    As we look at the requirements--and I am trying to be very 
direct about this--it does not look at necessary or as cost-
effective as it once did to introduce another aircraft that is 
KC-Y. So we are not sure what we are going to do about that 
yet. We have not finished analyzing the requirements, but if 
the needle was over here at competition it has moved back 
towards not necessarily having competition, part of the way 
anyway.
    As far as KC-Z is concerned, what we do really for a next 
generation, I think that is going to be threat driven. What I 
am seeing happening with the threats is that they are trying to 
find creative ways to reach out further and engage our tankers 
at ranges at which they would once have been secure, and that 
is going to be a very big problem for us. We have to rethink 
how we support our forward tactical aircraft, in particular, 
and what the tanker of the future looks like, in a much broader 
sense. So that work is really just getting underway.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    As we aggressively modernize our forces we expect the 
services to achieve a delicate balance between funding new 
acquisition programs and the maintenance programs necessary to 
maintain today's fleet. Across the DOD, some program offices 
are using FAA-certified used and refurbished parts and engines, 
known as used serviceable materials, into their supply chains. 
When implemented, this practice has demonstrated significant 
cost savings, potential and increased availability of parts, 
yet used serviceable materials are not consistently 
incorporated into the supply chain for all commercial 
derivative platforms. I know I have brought this up with both 
of you before.
    General Brown, what benefit do you see used serviceable 
materials playing in the maintenance of our commercial 
derivative platforms and how can Congress help the Air Force to 
expand the use of this innovative approach, allowing you to 
realize the potential cost savings and greater repair parts 
availability of used serviceable materials, and the advantages 
that they offer?
    General Brown. The advantages they offer, as you actually 
highlight, is cost. It also makes a broader pool of parts 
availability to us. I think one of the things we will have to 
continue to work with, with the Congress but also internal to 
the Air Force, is laying out a bit of the process and culture 
to do that. It is not something we have done as much, 
typically, but it something I think we could take advantage of 
here, more so in the future.
    Senator Duckworth. Well, count on me to help you in 
whatever way you can to help change that culture. The 
commercial airlines use them. There is no reason why we cannot 
use them in the Air Force as well.
    Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth, and gentlemen, 
thank you for your excellent testimony. We will reconvene 
immediately in SVC-217 for the classified portion of this 
hearing. With that I will adjourn the open portion of the 
hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:52 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

           Questions Submitted by Senator Richard Blumenthal
   combat search and rescue (csar) demand in a russia/china conflict
    1. Senator Blumenthal. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, we saw 
significant use of Air Force Rescue Squadrons in Iraq and Afghanistan, 
where the numbers of downed pilots or isolated personnel was relatively 
low. How much greater a demand signal would you expect for combat 
search and rescue missions in a conflict with Russia or China?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Our analysis and the nature of 
the threat indicate demand would increase, but there would also be a 
dramatic increase in the threat to our CSAR helicopters, if we 
experienced losses over land. In the Pacific, we would expect more 
losses over the ocean, where CSAR specialized assets would not be 
required.
                          other csar platforms
    2. Senator Blumenthal. Secretary Kendall, what other platforms are 
you fielding within the next decade that will be more survivable and 
have the same versatility as an H-60 Whiskey to perform the CSAR 
mission?
    Secretary Kendall. Science and technology investments are underway 
to explore advanced, high-speed, vertical takeoff and landing 
technologies that could increase survivability against advanced 
threats.
                        long term plans for csar
    3. Senator Blumenthal. General Brown, on the Combat Rescue 
Helicopter (CRH), the United States Air Force has already begun to 
retire ahead of plan the existing HH-60G fleet, leaving these high 
demand fleets stretched. What is your long-term plan to provide rescue 
capability for combat forces to ensure we ``leave no one behind''? How 
will the United States Air Force keep the Active and Guard and Reserve 
fleets available to support the growing rescue demands of the DOD?
    General Brown. The AF Personnel Recovery triad of HH-60W Jolly 
Green II helicopters, HC-130J Combat King aircraft, and Guardian Angel 
extraction teams will provide combat search and rescue capabilities to 
the Joint Force for the foreseeable future. Each of these weapons 
systems has Active, Guard, and Reserve components. Both aircraft-based 
weapons systems are new and have higher aircraft availability rates 
than the legacy systems they replaced. The demand signal for Combat 
Rescue aircraft was originally based on two Counter Insurgency fights. 
Today, China is our most consequential strategic competitor and the 
pacing challenge for the Department. The HH-60W is not effective in the 
highly contested environment, nor is it effective across the distances 
required for Pacific operations. Long-term plans include leveraging 
Science and Technology investments, which are underway, to explore 
advanced, high-speed, vertical takeoff and landing technologies that 
could increase survivability against advanced threats.
     h-60 availability for a peer conflict under fiscal year 2023 
                            procurement plan
    4. Senator Blumenthal. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, will 
United States rescue squadrons be able to meet the demand of a conflict 
with Russia or China in the next 10 years under the acquisition plan 
laid out in the fiscal year 2023 budget?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. With the existing force, Air 
Force Rescue Squadrons will have a reduced utility to meet combat 
rescue demand in a peer conflict. This is an example of an area where 
the Air Force is taking prudent risk in order to transition from the 
force we have today to the force needed to meet our pacing challenge, 
China.
                   timeline to reestablish squadrons
    5. Senator Blumenthal. General Brown, if we stand down squadrons, 
or do not replace all our Pavehawks, how long would it take to 
reconstitute or reestablish combat rescue squadrons and capabilities 
necessary for a China or Russia fight?
    General Brown. Current CSAR systems will have limited utility in a 
conflict with China or Russia due to their lack of survivability 
against advanced threats. It is unlikely we would increase those 
capabilities, but if we did so, it would likely take several years.
              material condition of current pavehawk fleet
    6. Senator Blumenthal. General Brown, I have heard reports from the 
33rd Rescue Squadrons in Kadena, Japan and from other squadrons of 
structural issues with their Pavehawks from their heavy use in 
Afghanistan. Which squadrons will be fully recapitalized with the H-60 
Whiskey and which will not due to the decreased buy?
    General Brown. Reduced HH-60W procurement will limit the ability to 
recapitalize HH-60G units one-for-one. The Air Force is completing a 
Global Posture Review for fighters and rescue, intended to provide 
options to the SecAF and CSAF of required force structure changes, 
strategic basing recommendations, and recapitalization plans for legacy 
aircraft. Results of this review will inform the strategic basing 
process.
                    pavehawk service life extensions
    7. Senator Blumenthal. General Brown, how many of our current 
Pavehawks are currently at or near or at the end of their service lives 
and will not be replaced? How long will they continue to fly and what 
has been the effect on aircraft readiness?
    General Brown. The remaining HH-60G fleet of 82 aircraft are at or 
near the end of their service lives and retirements will be complete by 
the end of fiscal year 2026. Aging fleets such as this are more costly 
to sustain, and they maintain lower levels of readiness.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie Hirono
             delivery of the new aerial refueling aircraft
    8. Senator Hirono. General Brown, in last year's NDAA, Congress set 
limits on the number of KC-135 and KC-10 refueling aircraft the Air 
Force could retire over the next three years as a result of acquisition 
delays and capability limitations the new KC-46 replacement aircraft is 
still experiencing. Has the Air Force made any progress on speeding up 
the delivery of additional KC-46 aircraft?
    General Brown. Delays caused by re-work from quality escapes on 
aircraft coming from the factory represent the greatest impact to the 
Boeing delivery schedule. Boeing has matured its engineering designs 
and manufacturing processes. These areas have stabilized since the 
early phases of the production program. The Air Force and the Defense 
Contract Management Agency are exploring corrective options available 
with FAA partners to further improve Boeing's quality and production 
rate. Concurrently to the Government working with Boeing to improve 
delivery timelines, Air Mobility Command (AMC) has been successfully 
fielding KC-46 interim capability to support operational and training 
missions and meet USTRANSCOM air refueling requirements. Currently, the 
KC-46A can refuel receiver sets that constitute about 85 percent of 
USTRANSCOM receiver-type taskings. AMC is evaluating adding other 
receivers for operational use, with the target of increasing that 
number by mid-summer 2022.

    9. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what is the timeline for 
correcting the KC-46's problem with refueling planes in different 
lighting conditions?
    General Brown. The current KC-46 Remote Vision System (RVS) has 
deficiencies preventing safe and effective refueling in changing 
lighting conditions. RVS 2.0 is expected to resolve the deficiencies of 
the current system, providing marked improvements through a complete 
re-design of the refueling operator station, along with upgraded 
sensors, displays, and associated hardware/software. The RVS 2.0 
Preliminary Design Review officially closed in April 2022, and the 
program schedule is currently on track, with retrofit and production 
cut-in planned to start in mid-to-late 2024. The full KC-46 fleet is 
expected to be outfitted with RVS 2.0 by end of 2029.
    In parallel to these RVS deficiency resolution efforts, Air 
Mobility Command (AMC) has been successfully fielding KC-46 interim 
capability to support operational and training missions and meet 
USTRANSCOM air refueling requirements. Currently, the KC-46A can refuel 
receiver sets that constitute about 85 percent of USTRANSCOM receiver-
type taskings. AMC is evaluating adding other receivers for operational 
use, with the target of increasing that number by mid-Summer 2022.
                     support for indopacom and pdi
    10. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, Admiral Aquilino published his ``Seize the Initiative'' 
concept which describes how INDOPACOM plans to implement integrated 
deterrence as a part of the National Defense Strategy. The DOD's Fiscal 
Year 2023 President's Budget request also includes $6.1 billion in 
targeted investments to specific programs for the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative (PDI). How do projects such as the Pacific Multi-Domain 
Training and Experimentation Capability, or PMTEC, shape these 
initiatives and enhance the Air Force's presence in the Pacific?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. The pace of 
China's military modernization, its increasingly aggressive actions in 
the Indo-Pacific theater, and its ability to threaten the Homeland 
should be continuously evaluated. Initiatives such as PDI help us to 
continue deliberate prioritization of requirements, guiding decisions 
regarding trade-offs between short-term and long-term risks associated 
with modernization efforts. The Pacific Multi-Domain Training and 
Experimentation Capability (PMTEC) provides an environment for joint 
and coalition partners to conduct integrated training across all 
domains (ground, air, maritime, cyber, space, and information). 
Integrated training events demonstrate resolve and reinforce the value 
of integrated deterrence.

    11. Senator Hirono. General Brown, how will Air Force military 
construction projects on islands around the Pacific enhance PDI?
    General Brown. To win in an Indo-Pacific theater contingency, DOD 
must design a lethal and resilient forward-deployable force, able to 
protect the interests of the United States, as well as our Allies and 
partners. DOD must also posture that force to permit effective and 
timely employment to credibly deter and/or decisively engage in the 
future fight. The Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI) Military 
Construction (MILCON) investments help ensure the United States is best 
equipped, trained, and positioned to accomplish this. The investment of 
resources to improve infrastructure and facilities throughout the Indo-
Pacific theater provides our allies, partners and strategic competitors 
a clear indication of the United States' long-term commitment to the 
Pacific. These MILCON projects will build resiliency in the Indo-
Pacific region and include establishing a Pacific Divert capability, 
key facility recap & hardening, resource dispersal, and fuel support 
facilities.

    12. Senator Hirono. General Brown, how do the divestitures of 
aircraft included in your budget affect the Air Force's operational 
commitments in the Pacific in the short-term?
    General Brown. The Air Force continues to work with INDOPACOM, and 
more broadly across the joint force, as we make decisions to retire 
certain aircraft. When determining what forces we must keep forward 
positioned and what we can divest in order to advance modernization 
efforts to address the challenges of tomorrow, we strongly consider the 
Combatant Commands' operational knowledge and military recommendation.

    13. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, what else is 
the Air Force doing to support INDOPACOM and PDI?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We would be happy to discuss 
your question in a classified setting. What we can say is, the most 
important metric for the Nation is that its Air Force has confidence in 
the ability to win wars against near-peers and especially our pacing 
challenge. Balancing investments with affordable capacity, the Air 
Force must identify and prioritize critical capability gaps in order to 
build a force that best supports the Joint Force mission and wins the 
future fight. The solution to minimizing capability gaps is not hanging 
on to legacy capabilities, not only across the fighter fleet, but the 
entire Air Force.
    We remain committed to supplying the Nation with a fighter force 
that is capable, sustainable, and affordable, with the ability to 
operate across the entire range of mission sets.
                            small businesses
    14. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, in conjunction with AFWERX, 
the Air Force has been awarding Small Business Innovation Research 
(SBIR) contracts that include technology research and development 
projects ranging from artificial intelligence to supply chain security. 
These types of initiatives coupled with the Air Force's annual Tech 
Warrior Exercise help small businesses bring much needed technological 
advancements into the Department. What progress has the Air Force made 
in removing barriers to entry for small businesses to access both SBIR 
contracts and other small business initiatives?
    Secretary Kendall. AFWERX established the United States Air Force 
SBIR/STTR Open Topic Program in part to remove barriers to entry for 
small businesses. Out of approximately 1,800 AFVentures-funded 
companies, more than 75 percent received their first Air Force SBIR/
STTR award through the program. Additionally, AFWERX has streamlined 
the evaluation and contract award process, dramatically reducing the 
timelines for award. Currently AFVentures issues 85 percent of SBIR/
STTR awards in under 180 days--an increase from 42 percent prior to 
AFWERX' founding. AFWERX is implementing a cross-SBIR/STTR standard of 
a maximum 90 days to award and objective of 75-day timeline to award. 
By implementing standardized processes and disciplined parameters for 
execution, the program intends to continue to improve award timelines 
and other barriers to small businesses. Additionally, the Department of 
the Air Force (DAF) initiated the ``DAF CISO's Blue Cyber Initiative'' 
for DAF SBIR/Small Business/Academic-Research Institution contractors 
and potential contractors to ensure these defense industrial base 
partners have no cybersecurity or information protection questions. It 
provides connection to the multitude of state and federal resources 
available to assist small businesses to become cyber secure; many 
funded by the DOD Office of Local Defense Community Cooperation (OLDCC) 
grants-to-states for defense industrial base cybersecurity development 
program.
    Over the last 6 months, the DAF Office of Small Business Programs 
(SAF/SB) successfully assisted DOD and OMB with development and 
issuance of the following comprehensive guidance on reducing entry 
barriers: (1) OMB Memorandum M-22-03, Advancing Equity in Federal 
Procurement, (2) DOD Equity Action Plan, and (3) DOD EO 14017 Action 
Plan, Securing Defense-Critical Supply Chains. The DAF is beginning to 
implement this guidance, in coordination with the DOD and the other 
Military Departments. We will keep Congress informed of our progress. 
Further, SAF/SB provided extensive recommendations to the Defense 
Business Board (DBB) on improvements and expansion of the DOD Mentor-
Protege Program, which the DBB adopted in its MPP Report to Congress.
    SAF/SB is currently assisting DOD with updating the 2019 DOD Small 
Business Strategy, which is expected to include measures to reduce 
entry barriers consistent with Congressional direction at 10 U.S.C. 
4901. Other examples include efforts to eliminate barriers: DAF is 
working proactively with the Department of Defense on implementing 
important flexibilities provided by Congress to let small businesses 
take advantage of SCIFs and facility clearance (FCL) resources of 
partner firms through joint venturing, as well as through the DOD and 
SBA Mentor-Protege Programs. The DAF Office of Chief Information 
Officer has recently announced the Blue Cyber initiative to assist 
small businesses with cyber security compliance.

    15. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, what is the Air Force doing 
to overcome the dreaded ``valley of death''?
    Secretary Kendall. The two great barriers to transition are funding 
availability and low prioritization. Nevertheless, we are working to 
improve transition opportunity and efficiency.
    Last fall, I directed a Department of the Air Force Management 
Initiative to assess technology transition pipelines and mechanisms, 
and recommend improvement actions. The team, spanning 35 DAF 
organizations, reviewed current technology transition pipelines and 
engaged partners to identify common themes, barriers, and areas for 
improvement. Key findings include the importance of transition funding 
for concept refinement and risk reduction, and the prioritization of 
acquisition, requirements, and resourcing activities to facilitate 
transition. Detailed results are currently being formulated into 
actions to improve tech transition speed and effectiveness.
    In fiscal year 2022, the DAF established the AFWERX Prime program 
to identify emerging commercial technologies that can enhance military 
capabilities, and co-invest with industry to deliver capabilities in 2 
to 4 years. Industry benefits from the government expertise, 
infrastructure, and certification expertise (e.g., airworthiness, 
safety). The DOD benefits from accelerated capability of emerging 
disruptive technologies. The first Prime program, Agility Prime, is 
enabling alternative mobility options, reduced carbon footprint, 
flexibility, and runway independence. SPACEWERX initiated an Orbital 
Prime program, which will advance dual-use markets for active debris 
remediation.
                            pilot shortages
    16. Senator Hirono. General Brown, the Air Force has been 
experiencing significant shortfalls in both pilots and aircraft 
maintainers in recent years. What steps are you taking to address the 
pilot and aircraft maintainer shortage?
    General Brown. There are 6 initiatives to innovate and increase 
production to meet the minimum annual production target of 
approximately 1,500 pilots:
    1. UPT 2.5 seeks to increase combat capability and prepare for a 
peer fight.
    2. Rotary-only Undergraduate Helicopter Training increases our 
production by approximately 90 grads per year in fiscal year 2024, 
using a rotary only path to wings.
    3. Civil Path to Wings is a currently unfunded program to produce 
military pilots from highly qualified civilian pilots.
    4. Remote Civilian Simulator Instruction could increase production 
by up to 100 grads per year, through increased simulator instructor 
manning--prototype contract awarded in Oct 2021 with demonstration in 
fall 2022 (no funding beyond demo).
    5. Pilot Training Next increases utilization of simulator training; 
several recently graduated students attended Air Mobility Fundamentals 
using a simulator-only curriculum.
    6. Proposed Accelerated Path to Wings [T-1-only track] increases 
pilot production with 200-250 grads per year through fiscal year 2024
    To address the maintainer shortage, the Air Force continues to 
focus on the aircraft maintenance retention strategy that has 
successfully contributed to the current 98 percent fill rate for our 
funded maintenance billets. The 2 percent dip from last year is the 
result of the maintenance community gaining additional authorizations 
in this fiscal year. The retention strategy focuses on building and 
maintaining the right skill levels and specialties within its enlisted 
maintenance workforce. It focuses on cyclical evaluation of historical 
retention trends; on-going review and adjustments to retention goals by 
skill level and maintenance specialty; clear understanding of retention 
rates necessary to attain those goals; and establishment of metrics 
needed to track performance against those goals from year to year. 
Keeping maintenance manning and retention high relies on being able to 
coordinate timing for aircraft divestment with arrivals of new weapons 
system (e.g., F-35, KC-46, B-21, NGAD). Without the ability to 
repurpose our maintenance manning in a timely manner, retention levels 
will be put at risk again.

    17. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what efforts are you undertaking 
to recruit, retain, and remove barriers for a more diverse force, and 
in particular what steps are you taking to diversify the pool of pilots 
serving in the Air Force?
    General Brown. The DAF is taking an integrative approach to recruit 
and retain diverse talent representative of the best of the United 
States, as well as mitigate barriers. It stood up the Secretary of the 
Air Force Office of Diversity and Inclusion and also have seven DAF 
Barrier Analysis Working Group Teams that identify barriers for 
underrepresented groups. The Air Force has updated policies and 
continues to evaluate policies, guidance, and procedures to remove 
exclusionary practices or language, as well as eliminate unnecessary 
barriers for career progression and development. Additionally, we have 
conducted surveys to allow members an opportunity to inform us where 
additional barriers may exist as well as convey why personnel choose to 
continue to serve or end their service.
    The DAF, through the Air Force Recruiting Service (AFRS), 
specifically recruits diverse talent for military personnel, and the 
Air Force Personnel Center does marketing for civilian personnel. AFRS 
is conducting in-person and virtual events that include special events, 
conventions, expos, conferences, job fairs, air shows, school visits, 
etc. to reach a diverse field of potential applicants. AFRS conducts 
targeted campaigns on various platforms such as streaming video, social 
media apps, premium video advertising, and experiential marketing.
    Recruitment of a more diverse pool of personnel includes a multi-
pronged effort focused on outreach and engagement. In particular, our 
recruiters recently participated in the largest collegiate ESPORTS live 
event to date--offering an opportunity to explain how technology is the 
basis for our STEM career fields. The DAF currently has multiple STEM-
specific partnerships that strategically target this audience: First 
Robotics, Major League Hacking, 4H, USA Science and Engineering, Skills 
USA, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Organization of Black 
Aerospace Professionals, Women in Aviation, and American Institution of 
Aeronautics and Astronautics, and Space Camp.
    University Partnership Program (UPP) facilitates the education and 
recruitment of a diverse pool of military and civilian STEM talent into 
the Guardian workforce and funds research projects of vital interest to 
the universities and the United States Space Force. UPP provides a 
consistent pipeline of required talent through scholarship, internship, 
and mentorship opportunities. The UPP is comprised of 14 nationally-
renowned universities. The DAF is establishing first-ever University 
Affiliated Research Center (UARC) to develop opportunities to better 
connect Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU) and MSIs 
with STEM and Science and Technology needs of the Department. The UARC 
is expected to be awarded in fiscal year 2023.
    The DAF has stood up an office at the Air Education and Training 
Command that directly works on rated diversity initiatives and an 
aviation Task Force at the Air Force Headquarters-level. The Air Force 
has a Rated Prep Program that expanded in fiscal year 2021 to include 
enlisted applicants. Underrepresented group participants increased from 
51 percent in fiscal year 2019 to 65 percent in fiscal year 2021. 
Moreover, The Rated Prep Program increases United States Air Force 
Academy (USAFA) Cadet Engagement with Diverse Rated Officers and 
increases career mentorship opportunities. The USAFA class of 2024 is 
the most diverse class ever with 30.2 percent women and 36.2 percent 
self-identified as racial/ethnic underrepresented groups.
    The Air Force JROTC Flight Academy Summer Program in 2021 had 299 
AF JROTC Participants = 27 percent minority/35 percent female (52 
percent underrepresented groups). 103 cadets of 216 graduates are from 
underrepresented groups; 68 cadets of 216 graduates are female (31 
percent). In fiscal year 2022, the Aim High Flight Academy conducted 
three camps with 72 students in which 53 percent of the students were 
from racial/ethnic underrepresented groups and 40 percent were females.
                      missile warning and tracking
    18. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, the Space Force is 
collaborating with other DOD partners, including the Missile Defense 
Agency, on the Next Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared missile 
warning and tracking system--what can you tell me about your progress 
on this system?
    General Raymond. Successful multi-agency collaboration resulted in 
an updated Missile Warning/Tracking/Defense force design formalized in 
the 4th quarter fiscal year 2021. Since then, the United States Space 
Force's Space Systems Command, the Space Development Agency, and the 
Missile Defense Agency partnered with the broader mission area team to 
allocate capability requirements, establish a Combined Program Office, 
and begin the acquisition of a first-ever proliferated architecture 
consisting of more than 150 satellites and associated open architecture 
ground segments. This revolutionary missile warning and tracking 
capability is an essential component of strategic deterrence; it will 
provide global coverage of infrared events, and detect advanced 
tactical to strategic threats, including advanced hypersonic threats. 
It will provide reliable warning for the National Command Authority's 
nuclear response decision process, thereby informing senior decision 
makers to include the President, the Secretary of Defense, and 
Combatant Commanders.

    19. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, how is the Space Force 
planning to protect critical intelligence, missile warning and 
tracking, and communications satellites in space from emerging Chinese 
and Russian threats?
    General Raymond. China and Russia have been developing, testing, 
and deploying an array of ground- and space-based counter-space systems 
that could directly threaten the United States space assets. In order 
to counter these current and future threats, United States Space Force 
created an analytically-based, threat-informed force design process to 
determine the space capabilities needed by the Nation, and in some 
cases by our allies, to provide missile warning and other functions.
    United States Space Force designs inform operational requirements 
and budget needed for future space programs, and incorporate resiliency 
against current and projected threats into our design through system 
attributes, such as orbit diversity and proliferated satellite 
architectures. In addition to greater resiliency, proliferated and 
distributed architectures also provide opportunities for increased 
mission capacity and/or capabilities.
    United States Space Force completed its first major force design 
study on our missile warning and tracking mission, the results of which 
form the foundation of the fiscal year 2023 budget request. We are 
currently conducting force design assessments on the space data 
transport architecture and other mission areas.
                           future fighter mix
    20. Senator Hirono. General Brown, last year the Air Force and CAPE 
launched a tactical aircraft study which was to inform your fiscal year 
23 budget request. What were the key takeaways from the study?
    General Brown. The United States Air Force Tactical Aircraft 
(TACAIR) report is classified SECRET and was used to inform capability 
and capacity options for our future fighter force. The unclassified 
portions of the executive summary align with the Fighter Force 
Narrative made public in September 2021. This effort was a 
comprehensive report of previous modeling, simulation, war gaming, and 
analysis from the last five years. We would be happy to brief you at a 
classified level on the results.

    21. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what is the overall timeline of 
the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) aircraft?
    General Brown. The NGAD timeline is classified. Further details can 
be provided in classified correspondence.

    22. Senator Hirono. General Brown, how will NGAD fit in the Air 
Force's future fighter mix over the next two decades?
    General Brown. The NGAD family of systems is foundational to United 
States Air Force air superiority capability in the future fighter force 
structure. The NGAD platform will be the Air Force's primary air 
superiority fighter in the highly contested environment and has the 
ability to strike ground-based threats. The NGAD family of systems will 
be integrated with uncrewed collaborative combat aircraft. The NGAD 
platform will replace the upgraded, but aging F-22 that cannot be made 
competitive against the future threat expected two decades from now. 
Advanced NGAD capability is enabled through Digital Engineering, Open 
System Architecture, and Agile Software Development.

    23. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what lessons have you learned 
from the F-35 development that you intend to apply to the NGAD?
    General Brown. The NGAD program is using engineering technologies 
and processes that are a generation more advanced than the F-35. These 
include: digital engineering, agile software development, and open 
system architectures. This approach drives upgrade opportunities 
through modularity, maximizes competition across a broad industrial 
base throughout the life of the program, and retains government 
ownership of the technical baseline and the final design.

    24. Senator Hirono. General Brown, how does the Air Force see the 
future of unmanned systems complementing or replacing current fighters?
    General Brown. Controlling the air domain is an absolute imperative 
if the Nation, and our allies, are going to be successful in future 
operations. The United States Air Force needs to add less expensive, 
uncrewed autonomous aircraft to the air dominance suite of 
capabilities, in order to increase overall capability at an affordable 
rate. Uncrewed systems will complement current fighters. The exact mix 
of crewed and uncrewed teaming is under development.
                            satcom personnel
    25. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, what is the timeline for 
consolidating Army and Navy satellite operations under Space Force?
    General Raymond. The Global Army Wideband and Navy Narrowband 
SATCOM Operations missions are set to transfer to the United States 
Space Force in fiscal year 2022, along with the Army SATCOM Support 
Centers that plan and task SATCOM support to Combatant Commanders. In 
fiscal year 2023, the United States Space Force is prepared to receive 
the transfer of the Navy program office that fields and sustains the 
Narrowband SATCOM space and ground segments supporting Joint Force 
mobile, tactical, shipborne, and airborne users.

    26. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, over the past several years, 
the Regional SATCOM Support Center-Pacific has experienced a 
significant amount of mission growth, as the Armed Forces have become 
more reliant on satellite communications. Unfortunately, Regional 
SATCOM Support Center-Pacific has not seen a corresponding manpower 
increase to support this additional work. The Army recognized a 
requirement for more personnel to support all four regional SATCOM 
planning cells after conducting a Total Army Analysis in 2019. With 
Army satellite operations set to be consolidated under Space Force in 
the near future, will you consider increases to the Space Force's 
manpower levels to ensure every unit is able to keep pace with its 
mission requirements?
    General Raymond. The Army and Space Force have jointly planned to 
transfer 502 associated manpower authorizations (302 military/200 
civilians associated with its SATCOM elements) to support transfer of 
SATCOM missions. Once this transfer is complete, we will evaluate the 
Total Army Analysis of its four regional SATCOM Support Centers and 
will consider increases to the manpower levels to ensure every unit is 
able to keep pace with its mission requirements. Fiscal limitations 
will require we make risk-informed trade-offs in manning 
prioritization, while we address competing combatant command 
requirements.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                        ukraine lessons learned
    27. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what are some of the preliminary lessons learned from the 
conflict in Ukraine on the future of warfare? Please be specific with 
the new perceived effectiveness of different weapon systems and changes 
to military doctrine regarding tactics and strategy.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. Control of 
the air is critical to military success, and air superiority cannot be 
assumed. The failure of the Russian military to gain control of the air 
is a major contributor to the challenges the Russians are facing.
    Conversely, the Ukrainians have used air defense systems quite 
well. They have been able to keep them survivable against the threat, 
which we think says as much about the lack of capability of the 
Russians as it does about the capability of the Ukrainians.
    We need to be careful about trying to learn too many lessons from 
this until it is studied in detail, but the situation is a significant 
testament to the importance of airpower. To ensure success, airpower 
must be sophisticated enough to deal with the threats that it faces; 
including ground-based air defense systems like the ones Ukrainians are 
employing.
    Additionally, it is clear the character of war is changing. This 
war shows the value of the space domain: being able to provide 
information. It also showed the value of commercial capabilities in 
space; being able to share intelligence more broadly, being able to 
shape the gray zone operation.

    28. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, based on observations in Ukraine and Afghanistan, what has the 
military learned regarding assessing an enemy's `will to fight'? How 
can this be applied to future situations of heightened tension and 
conflict?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. What the 
military has learned about assessing an enemy's `will to fight' is that 
it remains difficult to do adequately and is challenged by inadequate 
intelligence access, collection, and analysis. We do not to focus 
intelligence collection on our allies and partners, which further 
impedes insights into how strong an ally or partner's `will to fight' 
might be when tested. Conveying the intelligence that is available and 
the associated uncertainty is a challenge for the Intelligence 
Community, policy makers, and commanders because `will to fight' is not 
readily measured or counted. Tangible things like numbers of tanks, 
artillery, surface to air missiles systems, fighter jets, and naval 
ships are easier to observe, collect, and are often prioritized by 
policy makers and commanders. A correlation of forces approach has a 
long history of how to perform such complex analysis, but the variable 
of how forces interpret what they are fighting for, what they are 
willing to die for, and what their leadership can inspire them to do 
can lead to unexpected results. Moving forward, while we may continue 
to rely on correlation of forces to assess combat power in periods of 
heightened tension and conflict, we need to continue to invest in our 
understanding of populations, their military forces and political 
leadership.
    One lesson we have re-learned from our observation of the Russia-
Ukraine conflict is that multiple factors combine to influence the 
``will to fight.'' National motivation, pride, the role of military and 
political leadership, confidence in training and equipment, and faith 
in the man or woman to your right or left drive thousands of individual 
decisions within a military force or an entire population. We are proud 
of the contributions made every day by Airmen and Guardians to making 
sense of all kinds of data and transforming it into intelligence 
supporting decision advantage for commanders.
    Discerning `will to fight' is not an easy task. We recognize that 
while more easily measured, military technology and equipment alone 
does not lead to an effective fighting force. The men and women who 
comprise a military force matter; as does their character, their 
training and their leadership. Areas that are unfortunately difficult 
to collect and analyze effectively. We will continue to utilize the 
tools, training, and lessons learned to advance the tradecraft to get 
after this challenging analytic problem.
    We also will focus on our own warrior ethos, so that when the Air 
Force or Space Force is called upon, we remain ready and lethal. It is 
why we owe so much to those Airmen and Guardians that have gone before 
us, and why we need to lead, train and equip the next generation of 
Airmen and Guardians to effectively fly, fight, and win. Whenever 
Airmen and Guardians work and train alongside our allies and partners, 
they are bolstered and we reinforce ideals that keep the peace. We are 
both strengthened and gain confidence in our ability to defend freedom 
together. This in turn challenges a potential adversary, eroding their 
confidence to take us and our allies or partners on in the next period 
of heightened tension or conflict.
                        research and development
    29. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what is the expected timeframe for the United States to match 
and surpass China and Russia's capabilities in hypersonic missile 
technology and directed energy weaponization
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. China and 
Russia are pursuing these technologies and capabilities to address 
their goals, while the DAF is investing in multi-domain capabilities to 
address our requirements for maintaining flexibility and options for 
superiority. The DAF is making substantial investments in the 
development of both boost glide and air breathing cruise missile 
hypersonic weapons. Operational hypersonic air-launched weapons will 
enable the United States to hold high value, time sensitive targets at 
risk in a contested environment. Hypersonic weapons will be employed 
within the context of a larger force mix.
    Our current hypersonic technology is comparable to China. The 
United States is ahead in some areas in terms of technology and China 
is ahead in others. The DAF assesses our advancements in air-launched, 
air-breathing hypersonic cruise missiles are second to none, while 
China has demonstrated impressive ground-launched capabilities. 
However, this is not a race with China to field hypersonics, but rather 
a race for technological superiority and the ability to service the 
target sets that we're concerned about operationally.
    We would be happy to discuss further program details at a 
classified level. In the meantime, unclassified information on existing 
programs is provided here. The DAF is developing an air-launched boost-
glide hypersonic weapon, AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon 
(ARRW), as well as an air-breathing Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile 
(HACM). The AGM-183A ARRW is planning to field an early operational 
prototype based capability in fiscal year 2023. ARRW is a hypersonic 
maneuvering, boost-glide system designed to engage and kill soft, 
fixed, time-critical targets in contested environments from standoff 
range. The fiscal year 2022 new start HACM program leverages the 
Southern Cross Integrated Flight Research Experiment (SCIFiRE) 
investment, which is a bilateral United States-Australia air-breathing 
hypersonic cruise missile prototyping effort.
    The DAF is also supporting a national directed energy weapon 
development roadmap with increased investment in directed energy 
Science and Technology activities, which will improve effectiveness, 
reduce cost, and identify key risks of integrating advanced ground and 
airborne directed energy effectors into a hybrid base defense 
architecture.
                         hypersonic investments
    Our strategic adversaries, China and Russia, have invested heavily 
in hypersonic weapons and have a significant advantage on the United 
States in this critical area. As you know, hypersonic air vehicles 
require the use of exotic alloys, polymers, and ceramic composites that 
can withstand extreme temperature and flight environments. Although 
great effort is going into the development of these materials, we often 
overlook the more basic manufacturing systems and processes, such as 
full-size determinant assembly (FSDA) and model-based engineering 
(MBE), that are essential for rapid and affordable production. 
Unfortunately, this lack of vision results in too few airframes at 
excessive cost.
    30. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, where should 
the AF invest resources to create the ability to mass produce complex 
hypersonic airframe structures rapidly and affordably?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The DAF fully funds the 
completion of the ARRW RDT&E budget, and has applied lessons learned 
from the ARRW program and others to appropriately fund HACM RDT&E in 
fiscal year 2023. We prioritized ARRW's RDT&E to finish the flight test 
campaign to inform a future production decision. ARRW and HACM 
represent the two primary approaches to hypersonics--boost glide and 
scramjet cruise missile technology--which both have unique airframes, 
structures, manufacturing, and materials. These programs were enabled 
by the hypersonic Science and Technology (S&T) activities the Air Force 
Research Lab performs and we continue to invest there as well. To make 
future air-launched hypersonic airframe structures more affordable and 
rapidly producible, and to create a wider competitive industrial base, 
we are considering technology investments in the following areas: 
carbon-carbon materials and manufacturing processes, ceramic matrix 
composites for hypersonic thermal protection systems, high temperature 
metals and alloys, high temperature coatings, 3D printing for 
manufacturing, model-based systems engineering tools, and large 
diameter solid rocket motors and propellants. To bolster these 
investments, we would also consider investing in expansion of 
classified facilities, tooling, and equipment for increased production.

    31. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, what analytic 
tools are needed to model the thermal, structural, and environmental 
performance of ultra-high temperature material for hypersonic vehicles?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Verification and validation of 
existing or developing modeling tools within government and industry 
are necessary, followed by high temperature mechanical and relevant 
environmental testing of metallic and composite compounds, and 
subcomponent structures. We need a full understanding of the effects of 
defects, as we do not know what the critical defect size is today. As a 
result, the safety factors being used are currently likely to be 
oversized, in part due to manufacturing variability. We need methods to 
separate up front good parts from bad, so bad parts don't go through 
multiple expensive processes. Ideally, we would like to have validated 
models that link Non-Destructive Evaluation (NDE) from green parts to a 
go/no-go decision point so that we only take known-good-parts to full 
density and final machining state.
                         advanced manufacturing
    32. Senator King. The United States Air Force has prioritized the 
development of ``uncrewed'' companion aircraft for the B-21 Raider and 
Next-Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) platforms as operational 
imperatives. Similarly, there is growing interest in pairing autonomous 
collaborative platforms (ACP) or Skyborg uncrewed companion with 
existing 4th and 5th Generation aircraft. Pairing an exquisite, high-
end system with a low-cost attritable aircraft creates a dilemma for 
our adversaries--capability and capacity. However, the traditional way 
of designing and manufacturing structures intended for long service 
life is not a cost-effective model. Design and manufacturing low-cost 
attritable aircraft development should reflect new expectations in 
cost, performance, and safety. Among those expectations is a 
demonstration of scalable and responsive manufacturing approaches tied 
to certification strategies, as well as material selection and topology 
optimization for military relevant cases.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, what initiatives are you taking 
to identify scalable and responsive manufacturing approaches, material 
selection, and design optimization to maximize the value of low-cost 
attritable structures?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The DAF has several 
initiatives to identify scalable and responsive manufacturing 
approaches, material selection, and design optimization to maximize the 
value of low-cost attritable structures.
    For example, in terms of manufacturing approach initiatives, the 
Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) is leveraging mature automotive/
trucking composite manufacturing processes, such as RapidClave and Long 
Fiber Injection, to increase production. We are addressing 
responsiveness by leveraging large scale additive manufacturing and 
robotic sheet metal forming for composite tooling. In conjunction with 
DOD, AFRL is sponsoring high speed thermoplastic forming and welded 
assembly initiatives. We are collaborating with the Institute for 
Advanced Composites Manufacturing Innovation to identify manufacturing 
processes of interest and encourage engagement with the aerospace 
community. We are also establishing strategic partnerships supporting 
Agility Prime and Urban Air Mobility to understand needs and identify 
alternative rapid composite manufacturing processes.
    In terms of material selection initiatives, we have evaluated 
multiple composite resin suppliers and identified five rapid cure resin 
systems that are of interest and currently being processed on Globes' 
RapidClave system. We are also partnering with Covestro for the 
identification of rapid cure, aerospace relevant polyurethane composite 
resins and Zoltec's debundling carbon fibers for application to the 
automotive Long Fiber Injection manufacturing process. AFRL and Arkema 
are working on the development of UV-cured resin systems that are 
compatible with the Continuous Composites robotic additive 
manufacturing of composite structures.
    Finally, in terms of design optimization initiatives, we have 
developed Topology-Optimized (TO) wing frame designs and are providing 
the design to Continuous Composites for robotic additive manufacturing 
fabrication of wing frame as part of a Phase II SBIR effort. We are 
managing the Phase II SBIR with Big Metal Additive for Siemens 
software-supported, topology-optimized spacecraft designs and 
fabrication, using aluminum.

    33. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, what is the 
United States Air Force doing with industry partners that possess 
experience in large-scale, high-rate commercial metallic and composite 
aerostructures to develop transformative structures technologies for 
attritable aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force is engaged with 
industry to demonstrate design methodologies for a new class of 
uncrewed aircraft able to support a variety of missions in support of a 
family of future collaborative combat aircraft. The aircraft design 
methodology is based on the automotive practice of using a standard 
chassis for multiple variants. This is complemented by additional 
activities with industry to advance collaborative aircraft autonomous 
capability, operations modeling, hardware in the loop platforms, and a 
network architectures.

    34. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, how can the 
United States Air Force leverage ``lessons learned'' by Allied partners 
in similar programs, most notably the Royal Air Force's Project 
MOSQUITO?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Partnerships with allies to 
move important, mutually-beneficial research and development forward is 
vital in today's security environment, including our efforts with the 
United Kingdom (Project MOSQUITO) and Australia (GHOST BAT). All 
partners are actively sharing approaches and lessons learned from the 
design and manufacturing of low-cost attritable aircraft. The DAF, 
through bilateral partner agreements and collaborative partnership 
forums such as AUKUS and The Technical Cooperation Program (TTCP), is 
engaged with the UK's Royal Air Force MOSQUITO program, as well as the 
Australian's RAAF GHOST BAT program. In April, AFRL met with the RAAF 
Capability Development Team, and had a similar in-person meeting in May 
with the RAF, gaining insight into program details and leveraging their 
experiences. AFRL will reconvene for a combined Capability working 
group and S&T working group this fall to focus on ``red teaming'' each 
other's analysis and concepts.
                 sexual assault prevention and response
    35. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, the Air 
National Guard Director, mentioned the initiation of the XYZ program in 
order to better address sexual assault and harassment cases in the Air 
National Guard. How do you feel this initiative will impact sexual 
assault instances in the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We believe this Prevention 
Workforce program approach will improve the climate within the ANG 
because it allows us to increase prevention personnel at all levels, 
develop and implement assessment tools for identifying risk and 
protective factors, address negative attitudes and beliefs that can 
lead to an environment that tolerates harmful behavior, and manage key 
sexual assault risk and protective factors. We believe our long-term 
goal focused on equipping leaders at all levels and promoting positive 
unit culture is key to preventing sexual harassment and sexual assault.
                                 unclos
    36. Senator King. General Brown and General Raymond, do you support 
the ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea 
(UNCLOS)?
    General Brown. Although the United States is not a party to the 
UNCLOS, the Convention's provisions concerning traditional uses of the 
sea and airspace, including with respect to navigation and overflight, 
reflect customary international law. The Air Force defers to the 
Administration to advise regarding ratification of the UNCLOS.
    General Raymond. The Space Force would defer to the Administration 
regarding ratification of the UNCLOS, and whether the UNCLOS would have 
any applications to the conduct of our operations in the space domain.
                           drug interdiction
    37. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, what coordination is currently 
underway by the DAF with the ONDCP to stem the flow of illegal drugs 
into the United States?
    Secretary Kendall. While the DAF does not have a counter-narcotics 
mission and does not coordinate directly with ONDCP regarding illegal 
drug flow into the United States, the DAF does work directly with the 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Counter-narcotics & 
Stabilization Policy (DASD CN&SP) and Combatant Commands (CCMDs) to 
facilitate force provider support to drug interdiction missions. The 
Civil Support Division, within the Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Operations, develops Air Force goals and objectives that integrate into 
the President's National Drug Strategy and objectives.
    The DAF also serves as the Counterdrug Program Manager for all DOD 
Counterdrug activities and is responsible for developing and/or 
implementing Air Force and Space Force counterdrug programs congruent 
with DOD policy and guidance.
    The DAF provides timely information to the Joint Staff (JS), 
supported combatant commanders (CCDR), and the Deputy Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Counter-narcotics and Stabilization Policy 
(CN&SP) enabling responsive and effective decision making. Examples 
include utilizing GPS to counter trans-national crime, and leveraging 
GPS applications in coordination with NGA and commercial partners to 
map transnational criminal activity, which is related to counter-
narcotics.
    The DAF provides administrative support to the Director, Narcotics 
and Transnational Crime Support Center (NTC). The DAF is also 
finalizing a MOA with Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Counter-narcotics and Stabilization Policy (CN&SP) to provide full 
administrative support for all NTC DOD-personnel.

    38. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what operations, exercises, capabilities acquisitions, or 
other efforts are planned this year in the Western Hemisphere to secure 
the Homeland and build partner capacity to help with the war on drugs?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. The DAF is a 
force provider for DOD Counter-narcotic (CN) missions and supports the 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Counter-narcotics and 
Stabilization Policy (CN&SP), who has responsibility for developing 
strategy and policy, establishing priorities, and providing guidance 
applicable to DOD CN and counter-transnational organized crime 
activities consistent with national security and defense strategies and 
with DOD policies and objectives. United States military, interagency, 
and partner nation aircraft work together to support detection and 
monitoring missions. We have allocated ISR support to USSOUTHCOM in the 
fiscal year 2023 Global Force Management Allocation Plan (GFMAP), and 
participate in routine Joint Force exercises, along with regional 
partners, to practice assisting law enforcement with counter-narcotic 
and counter-transnational organized crime activities. PANAMAX 2021, and 
TRADEWINDS 2022, which is currently in planning, are examples of such 
cooperative exercises.
                            china commission
    39. Senator King. I believe we must establish an unbiased and non-
partisan commission to examine a grand strategy for our approach to 
China, similar in intent to President Eisenhower's Solarium Project. We 
need to think of a holistic approach to create a stable international 
order in which China (or Russia) cannot dictate regional developments.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond, In order to 
avoid the United States trying to ``spend our way out of conflict,'' 
how can we specifically counter China's major activities in your area 
of responsibility?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. We need to 
emphasize technological superiority embedded in an affordable mix of 
capabilities and concepts. Our framework to accomplish this is the 
Operational Imperatives. The first thing we can do is divest legacy 
platforms not well-suited for today's contested environments or 
tomorrow's high-end conflicts, in order to free up resources to invest 
in new capabilities supporting the National Defense Strategy and our 
Operational Imperatives. These come with significant opportunity cost, 
and as good stewards of the taxpayers' dollars, the Department of the 
Air Force needs the flexibility to pivot investments from sustaining 
weapons systems not effective in a near peer conflict to those that 
deter, and if necessary, win, relative to our pacing challenge.
    Importantly, we need to continue work across the whole-of-
government, with our allies and partners, and with the private sector 
to find novel ways to achieve advantages outside of traditional 
capability investment. The swift and unified response of our network of 
allies and partners to the situation in Ukraine demonstrates the 
advantages of integrated deterrence.
    We also need to take advantage of the unique characteristics of 
space systems. Space is an inherently global domain, meaning that 
China's major activities not only threaten the freedom of action of our 
space and terrestrial forces, but also threaten the freedom of action 
of our allies and partners. This underscores the imperative that the 
United States not attempt to counter PRC aggression alone, but instead 
continue to leverage ally and partner activities in space.
    Expanding partner participation will complicate the PRC's decision 
calculus, allow us to reduce costs when closing gaps in capability, 
increase resilience with complementary capabilities, and accelerate 
modernization efforts across the enterprise. By not only further 
developing existing relationships, but also striving to be the 
``partner of choice,'' we can most effectively counter major PRC 
activity and provide the collective security for those who join us.

    40. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what would be the greatest benefit this commission could 
deliver?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. Establishing 
such a commission would be a Presidential or Congressional initiation, 
outside the scope of our responsibilities. The National Security 
Strategy and National Defense Strategy provide adequate guidance to the 
DAF. If successful however, such a commission could provide a basis for 
a unified national approach to China.

    41. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, What would put us in the best position to avoid the United 
States and China from escalating conflict and careening into a war with 
China?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. If we 
advance the priorities of the 2022 National Defense Strategy--
integrated deterrence, campaigning, and building enduring advantages--
the Department can deliver the unique capabilities we provide to 
national security and deter strategic attacks and aggression.
    Our wargaming has consistently demonstrated how helping our allies 
and partners field credible interoperable defenses bolsters deterrence 
and increases the chances of victory. There exists a dynamic tension 
between shaping the competitive space to avoid armed conflict and 
setting favorable conditions to prepare for armed conflict. Creating 
favorable conditions and demonstrating the prohibitive cost of PRC 
aggression are key to deterring China. For the Department of the Air 
Force, this means building a credible, capable, and lethal force ready 
to transition to wartime.

    42. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what are the `toughest problems' OUTSIDE of military 
imbalances?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. We have 
reason to believe that future adversaries will attack our population 
with disinformation/propaganda and attempt to weaken our institutions. 
They will do this to weaponize internal divisions in an attempt to 
undermine our will to fight.
                                 arctic
    43. Senator King. I supported Senator Sullivan's Arctic Security 
Initiative amendment last year, and helped get it into law with the 
Chairman.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond, what 
specific resource shortfalls do our armed forces currently possess that 
would limit its ability to conduct exercises/operations in the High 
North? Please be specific to include operations and sustainment funding 
for exercises, equipment shortfalls such as weather gear for soldiers 
or unique platforms.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. As required 
by the Fiscal Year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act, the U.S. 
Northern Command (NORTHCOM) is in the process of completing the Arctic 
Security Assessment (ASA), an independent assessment of activities and 
resources required for fiscal year 2023 to 2027, to implement DOD-wide 
and service-specific Arctic strategies. The DAF was involved in that 
effort and looks forward to working with the combatant commands and 
Congress to address identified shortfalls in resourcing for exercises 
and operations in the High North. The DAF is currently funding several 
Arctic initiatives. Implementation and current investments are focused 
on enabling capabilities, including homeland defense and communications 
architectures, engagement with allies and partners, and modernization 
of the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC) for advanced threat 
training.
    This budget proposes approximately $1.2 billion in additional 
investments with Arctic relevance that support exercises, equipment, 
and platforms. Some examples include planned investments in Over the 
Horizon Radar (OTHR) sites in Northern Tier States, JPARC enhancements, 
Cobra Dane, Enhanced Polar System Recapitalization, Evolved Strategic 
Satellite Communications RDT&E, and weather system follow-on 
improvements.
    Regarding Space, specifically, we operate from Thule, Greenland 
(Missile Warning, Space Domain Awareness, and Satellite Command and 
Control), Clear AFS, Alaska (Missile Warning, Missile Defense, and 
Space Domain Awareness), Eareckson AFS, Alaska (Missile Warning, 
Missile Defense, and Space Domain Awareness), and Cavalier SFS, North 
Dakota (Missile Warning, Missile Defense, and Space Domain Awareness). 
Aging equipment and infrastructure affect mission equipment, voice and 
data communication, power and fuel storage, and personnel facilities. 
These challenges complicate our ability to maintain domain awareness 
and access, high-latitude communication, and homeland defense. We have 
sustainment accounts for our radars that will help keep them operating, 
while we move to a more resilient architecture, and partnerships with 
allies to help address high-latitude communications. Support for 
infrastructure investments in Greenland and Alaska will help us more 
quickly mitigate shortfalls.
                              kc-46 basing
    44. Senator King. Maine is the proud home of the Air National 
Guard's 101st Refueling Wing, the ``MAINEiacs.'' Maine geographic 
location and air corridors offer a strategic hub for supporting trans-
Atlantic deployments as well as Arctic operations.
    Secretary Kendall, would you support modernizing the unit with the 
new KC-46 aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall. Our number one priority in the Air Refueling 
portfolio is continuous recapitalization of the KC-135 fleet. KC-135 
recapitalization in Maine and other locations is dependent on the Air 
Force ability to expeditiously procure additional tankers after the 
current KC-46 contract is complete. Any delay in delivering new tanker 
aircraft beyond the current KC-46 procurement plan will also delay 
providing modernized aircraft to units flying the KC-135. We look 
forward to working with Congress to ensure seamless modernization of 
the tanker fleet.

    45. Senator King. General Brown, do you believe having a modernized 
and capable fleet of KC-46s at the strategic location of Bangor, ME is 
beneficial to the facilitating operations in the Arctic and trans-
Atlantic flights to EUCOM?
    General Brown. Air Refueling is important in all regions of the 
world and provides an asymmetric advantage that allows the United 
States to globally project power. Our number one priority in the Air 
Refueling portfolio is continuous recapitalization of the KC-135 fleet. 
Maine and other potential KC-46 locations are dependent on our ability 
to expeditiously procure additional tankers after the current KC-46 
contract is complete.
                          space national guard
    46. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what is the cost of establishing a Space National Guard?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. The 
Administration strongly opposes establishing a separate Space National 
Guard (as stated in the Statement of administration Policy for H.R. 
4350--National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2022), because 
of cost considerations. The Department of the Air Force continues to 
work with the Executive Branch to review alternatives that are 
efficient, effective and appropriate for Air National Guard space units 
and personnel. We highly value the people and units in the Air Guard 
who perform space related missions.

    47. Senator King. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Raymond, what is the benefit of establishing a Space National Guard?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. Space 
professionals in the Air National Guard are critical to the Space 
Force, and the DAF and United States Space Force benefit from their 
skills and expertise. Presently, ANG space units provide 60 percent of 
the Space Electromagnetic Warfare capability, 42 percent of National 
Reconnaissance Office (NRO) Operations Center (NOC) critical 
augmentation, and 25 percent of the national Missile Warning & Space 
Domain Awareness capability. Additionally, the ANG has the only 
survivable/endurable, mobile Missile Warning & nuclear detonation 
detection capability, and the only back-up capability for Milstar 
Satellite Communications & Advance Extremely High Frequency (AEHF) 
systems--protected satellite communications for NCA, NC3, and priority 
joint operations. United States Space Force cannot execute our missions 
today without their operational capability. As a result, keeping these 
capabilities and units in uniform and serving our country is a high 
priority. There are equally viable ways of accomplishing this, of which 
a Space Guard is one, but not the only, viable model.
    The Department of the Air Force continues to work with the 
Executive Branch to review alternatives that are efficient, effective 
and appropriate for space units and personnel. The Administration 
strongly opposes establishing a separate Space National Guard (as 
stated in the Statement of Administration Policy for H.R. 4350--
National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2022).
                expeditionary tactical operations center
    48. Senator King. The shift to a more scalable, lethal, and mobile 
combat elements such as the Marine Littoral Regiment and Multidomain 
Task Force is critical to the countering the dynamic threats in your 
Area of Responsibility. The DOD's recent investments in the University 
of Maine's composites and advanced manufacturing initiatives has 
resulted in improving blast and ballistic resistant structures and 
materials. Maine small businesses are the direct benefactor of the 
growing talent and innovation in this sector and are concurrently 
providing critical capabilities to the warfighter. The Modular 
Panelized Shelter System (MPSS) is one system of note and is currently 
employed by NORTHCOM in Alaska, EUCOM in Italy, and AFRICOM 
headquarters.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, how have the Air Forces units 
benefitted from utilizing MPSS?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Modular Panelized Shelter 
System (MPSS) is currently employed by some combatant commands. These 
Commands are reaping tangible benefits from MPSS. Currently, MPSS is 
not an asset in the Air Force War Reserve Materiel (WRM) inventory. 
Potentially, the Air Force could benefit from expeditionary, 
affordable, all weather, TS/SCI-certified structures, such as the MPSS.

    49. Senator King. General Raymond, could your command and service 
component commands benefit from an expeditionary, affordable, all 
weather, TS/SCI certified structures such as the MPSS?
    General Raymond. Yes, potentially. The United States Space Force 
has deployable space forces providing Combatant Commanders with 
regionally focused space capabilities. Technologies such as MPSS might 
enhance the deployability and utilizations of those forces.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                  next generation air dominance (ngad)
    50. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, I am very concerned about 
reduced transparency in the Next Generation Air Dominance program and 
how that will impact oversight. You recently said that each plane would 
cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Do you have a cost estimate for 
how much Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) will cost?
    Secretary Kendall. The 2023 President's Budget submission includes 
$15.8 billion in Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation dollars 
within the FYDP that will be used to continue NGAD development. Any 
funding detail beyond what is provided in the justification books is 
classified. I would be happy to share that information with you in a 
classified setting.

    51. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, Will you publicly release 
the total contract dollar amount of the EMD contract?
    Secretary Kendall. The topline budget is releasable, but 
contractual details to include the vendors and dollar amounts are 
classified, and there are currently no plans to declassify and release 
this information. I would be happy to provide it to you in a classified 
setting.

    52. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, what major program 
information for NGAD does the Air Force expect to be able to publicly 
release?
    Secretary Kendall. Due to the extremely sensitive nature of this 
program, very little information will be releasable to the public.

    53. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, you said NGAD can skip risk 
reduction activities because the technology is already mature. Which 
specific risk reduction activities is the Air Force forgoing?
    Secretary Kendall. The NGAD prototype program was a risk reduction 
program. It allows NGAD to move into EMD with acceptable risk. In order 
to accelerate the program, we are initiating many activities typically 
not done until closer to fielding, to include prototyping and 
technology demonstrations. In the later program phases, we can take 
advantage of those activities that were already accomplished to reduce 
risk. Digital engineering and tight relationships between the 
government and contractor teams also allow us to do this.

    54. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, has the Air Force skipped 
any of those risk reduction activities for previous programs?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force has had several programs perform 
pre-Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) trade studies and 
enter the acquisition process at the EMD phase. Examples include the B-
52 Radar Modernization Program, as well as the B-61 Mod 12 LEP Tailkit 
Assembly. During the pre-EMD effort, we focus on ensuring the 
technology maturity and readiness is at the appropriate level to enter 
at Milestone B. There is risk in every program. The DAF attempts to 
balance risk with urgency, cost impacts, and other considerations.

    55. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, which programs skipped any 
of those risk reduction activities?
    Secretary Kendall. he Air Force has had several programs perform 
pre-Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) trade studies and 
enter the acquisition process at the EMD phase. Examples include the B-
52 Radar Modernization Program, as well as the B-61 Mod 12 LEP Tailkit 
Assembly. During the pre-EMD effort, we focus on ensuring the 
technology maturity and readiness is at the appropriate level to enter 
at Milestone B. There is no fixed rule for their decisions, they are 
dependent on specific factors for each program.

    56. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, did the Air Force, 
Government Accountability Office, or the Department of Defense 
Inspector General find any delays in program schedule or increase in 
program cost that may have been connected to skipping those risk 
reduction activities?
    Secretary Kendall. Skipping risk reduction can lead to disastrous 
consequences, there are many examples. The NGAD prototyping program 
initiated in 2015 was structured to reduce the major risks in the EMD 
program. The Air Force regularly updates the Government Accountability 
Office on our progress and approach to accelerate NGAD. We will 
continue to provide insight on our approach with digital engineering 
and acquisitions as we pull risk reduction efforts earlier in the 
acquisition timeline.
                         air force retirements
    57. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, can you 
quantify, in real terms, capability gap risks from divesting legacy 
fighters over the future years defense program (FYDP) given delays in 
procurement of future fighters?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We would be happy to discuss 
your question more fully in a classified setting. The most important 
metric for the Nation is that its Air Force has confidence in the 
ability to win wars against near-peers and especially our pacing 
challenge. Balancing investments with affordable capacity, the Air 
Force must identify and prioritize critical capability gaps in order to 
build a force that best supports the Joint Force mission and wins the 
future fight. The solution to minimizing capability gaps is not hanging 
on to legacy capabilities, where capability gaps already exist. This is 
true across the fighter fleet and the entire Air Force. We remain 
committed to supplying the Nation with a fighter force that is 
sizeable, capable, sustainable, and affordable, with the ability to 
operate across the entire range of mission sets. Funding made available 
through strategic divestment (approximately $15.5 billion across the 5-
year Future Years Defense Plan) will be reallocated to advance the 
capabilities of the total force, minimizing to the max extent, near-
term capability gaps while reducing gaps overall. We would like the 
opportunity to discuss our capability gap concerns in a classified 
setting.

    58. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, my 
understanding is that manpower associated with legacy fighter fleets 
would be directly repurposed to future fighter fleets. What is your 
plan for preserving the highly skilled manpower associated with Air 
National Guard legacy fighter fleets being divested?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We value the experience of the 
Air National Guard and see it as a force multiplier. We expect 
recapitalization to be balanced across the Reserve and Active 
components, but it is unlikely all Air National Guard legacy fighter 
units will transition to newer fighter fleets. Our team is in the 
process of completing a posture review for fighters and rescue, 
intended to identify required force structure changes, strategic basing 
recommendations, and recapitalization plans for legacy aircraft. The 
DAF is committed to finding suitable missions (which may include non-
flying missions) for these affected units to insure these highly 
skilled Airmen remain assets to the total force.

    59. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, the Air 
Force has committed to divesting the F15C over the FYDP. What is the 
recapitalization plan for the six Air National Guard units that 
presently fly the F15C?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force is completing a 
posture review for fighters and rescue, intended to identify required 
force structure changes, strategic basing recommendations, and 
recapitalization plans for legacy aircraft. Results of this review will 
be reflected in the strategic basing process. We will share relevant 
details as they become available.

    60. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what is 
the specific plan to recapitalize the Air National Guard F-15C fleet in 
MA?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The DAF is completing a 
posture review for fighters and rescue, intended to inform the CSAF and 
SECAF of required force structure changes, strategic basing 
recommendations, and recapitalization plans for legacy aircraft. 
Results of this review will be reflected in the strategic basing 
process. As legacy aircraft divestments and conversion plans are 
finalized, the Air Force will develop operational concepts to cover the 
homeland defense mission within acceptable risk.

    61. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, the top 
priority in our national defense strategy is to protect the Homeland. 
How will the Air Force ensure that units that support the aerospace 
control alert, including potentially closed F-15C units, are able to 
continue to support this mission with manned aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The United States Air Force is 
completing a posture review for fighters and rescue, intended to inform 
the CSAF and SecAF of required force structure changes, strategic 
basing recommendations, and recapitalization plans for legacy aircraft. 
Results of this review will be reflected in the strategic basing 
process. As legacy aircraft divestments and conversion plans are 
finalized, the Air Force will develop operational concepts to cover the 
homeland defense mission within acceptable risk levels.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                         adversary air training
    62. Senator Rosen. The contractor providing adversary air training 
at Nellis Air Force Base was recently notified by Air Combat Command 
(ACC) that ACC does not intend to continue the contract, which expires 
next month. A-C-C instead intends to operate adversary air support 
completely organically. In written responses to my staff, the Air Force 
states that it will use Nellis' F-16s ``while ACC builds an F-35 
Aggressor capability'' but that the ``timing of this capability growth 
is yet to be determined.'' I am concerned by these responses, and by 
the capability gap that will exist until the Air Force can completely 
compensate for the adversary air training currently being performed 
today--at some future, unspecified date.
    Secretary Kendall, given that the Air Force does not currently have 
the capability to carry out sole adversary air missions without 
reducing training capacity, why has ACC chosen this path--without the 
aircraft or pilots--particularly when the Air Force has warned for 
years of the growing pilot shortage? Specifically, how does the Air 
Force intend to bridge the capability gap for adversary air at Nellis 
AFB after losing the aircraft and personnel responsible for 63 percent 
of aggressor flying hours?
    Secretary Kendall. The AF is moving to 100 percent organic F-16/F-
35 ADAIR at Nellis AFB and we expect no degradation to the training 
capabilities or pilot readiness from this change.

    63. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, what will be the impact on 
adversary air training at Nellis AFB in terms of delayed training and 
pilot readiness?
    Secretary Kendall. The AF is moving to 100 percent organic F-16/F-
35 ADAIR at Nellis AFB and we expect no degradation to the training 
capabilities or pilot readiness from this change.

    64. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, when can we expect the first 
F-35 Aggressors to be delivered to Nellis AFB and when will delivery be 
complete?
    Secretary Kendall. The F-35 Aggressor Squadron is expected to 
receive two aircraft in June 2022, with plans to add an additional nine 
aircraft, when funding and maintenance conditions permit. The earliest 
delivery of the remaining nine aircraft is expected to be in fiscal 
year 2024.

    65. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, given the current situation, 
is the Air Force considering re-competing the adversary air contract at 
Nellis AFB?
    Secretary Kendall. The Nellis Contract Air Support contract remains 
open and does not have to be re-competed for one year. However, at this 
time, we have elected not to exercise the remaining option year on the 
Nellis Contract Air Support effort. The decision was based on the 
contractor not being able to support high end threat replication, which 
is necessary for training at Nellis AFB. The remaining funds for this 
option year, which expired 4 June, will be used at other operations and 
training units throughout the Combat Air Force locations, where 
Contract Air Support threat replication remains sufficient.
                           space superiority
    66. Senator Rosen. General Raymond, the Space Force now has a seat 
on the Joint Chiefs, which is critical given space power is a 
foundational support to the entire Joint Force. However, China and 
Russia continue to advance their technology and capabilities in space, 
which degrade the United States' ability to support our Joint Force 
Team. These advancing threats will significantly impact our way of 
life, how we deter conflict, and how we project force as a Nation. 
Given current policy restrictions, what is the Space Force doing to 
develop flexible, responsive, reusable, and multi-domain systems that 
can meet current and projected threats that seek to deny our advantage 
in space?
    General Raymond. We have begun the pivot to transforming to 
resilient architectures for missile warning and space communication 
constellations. We are working closely with the intelligence community 
to ensure our joint operational and intelligence needs are being met.
    There are no policy restrictions that inhibit these or other 
programs.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                         a-10 wing replacement
    67. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, Arizona is 
home to 89 A-10 aircraft at Davis Monthan--by far the largest 
concentration of these jets anywhere. These uniquely capable aircraft 
have proven themselves time after time in every major conflict the U.S. 
has engaged in since the first Gulf War, saving countless lives while 
delivering unmatched close air support. As the security situation in 
Ukraine clearly demonstrates, the world is a dangerous and 
unpredictable place, and it is foolish to think that we will not find 
ourselves in a position that requires the A-10's unique capabilities in 
the future. I am concerned then that the Air Force's budget does not 
request funding for procurement of additional wing sets, and notes that 
the Air Force has procured enough wings for a fleet of 218 aircraft. 
This is significantly less than the fleet size of 260 aircraft proposed 
by the Air Force or the current fleet size of 281 aircraft. It is also 
counter to the fiscal year 2022 NDAA requirement that the Air Force 
continue modernization of the full fleet. If the A-10 fleet is 
maintained above 218 aircraft, does the Air Force agree that additional 
wing sets must be procured to support that fleet size?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Of the A-10 fleet maintained 
above 218 aircraft, each aircraft has a different amount of wing life. 
The remaining wing life ranges between 9 flight hours and 3,000 flight 
hours depending on aircraft. The United States Air Force continues to 
overhaul and install legacy wings on our highest-hour jets via 
scheduled Programmed Depot Maintenance (PDM) and unscheduled Depot 
Field Teams, as wing availability allows. Legacy wings are either 
overhauled existing wings or regenerated boneyard wings that still have 
service life available.

    68. Senator Kelly. General Brown, you have indicated in recent 
Congressional testimony that the Air Force could be on a ``path'' to 
procure additional wings. There is no procurement money requested for 
additional wing sets in the budget documents. What is the path?
    General Brown. If required to maintain a fleet above 218, 
additional wings must be awarded on contract no later than April 2023 
(fiscal year 2021 estimate) to prevent a break in production on the 
existing wing contract. In order to maintain a fleet of 281 A-10s, an 
additional 63 wings would need to be procured with an additional $615 
million across the FYDP.

    69. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, my office 
has heard reports that the Air Force may be pursuing a plan to replace 
wings on A-10 aircraft with wings out of the Boneyard rather than 
procuring new wings. This would be concerning since wings from the 
Boneyard have far less life on them than the 10,000 flight hours or 
more that new wings provide. Is the Air Force engaged or planning to 
engage in a process in which wings from the Boneyard will be installed 
on operational aircraft rather than procuring new wings? What is the 
relative cost to take these wings off of aircraft in the Boneyard and 
then install them on operational aircraft relative to procuring new 
wings? What effect does this have on service life?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The DAF previously installed 
173 Enhanced Wing Assembly (EWA) wings, and purchased an additional 50 
with installations currently underway. The additional 50 will complete 
a fleet of 218 with 4 spares. As a result of long lead times for new 
wing deliveries, the Air Force bridged the gap between EWA and the 
purchase of the additional 50 wings by overhauling existing wings 
(Legacy A wings) or installing regenerated Boneyard wings (Legacy B 
wings) that still had service life available. Because new wings were 
not yet available, the Air Force installed 27 Legacy B wings from 
fiscal year 2017 to fiscal year 2021. We do not plan nor see a need to 
install additional Legacy B wings. Legacy B wings service is variable 
based on hours remaining to next overhaul for each individual wing, 
ranging from 500 to 2,671 additional flight hours. Wing installs are 
typically combined with Scheduled Structural Inspection (SSI) rather 
than a stand-alone wing install process. The cost of an A-10 SSI/Legacy 
B wing is $6.9 million (fiscal year 2021), whereas the cost of a 
comparable SSI/new wing is estimated at $5.9 million (fiscal year 2021 
SSI costs combined with new wing installation estimate). Aircraft 
service life is affected by a multitude of factors not limited to 
wings; however, new wings will provide 10,000 hours before first major 
depot overhaul, whereas Legacy B wings deliver 500 to 2,671 hours prior 
to next depot overhaul.
                           kc-135 replacement
    70. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, I am 
increasingly concerned about the age and wear on our KC-135 fleet. As 
you may know, I've had the privilege of piloting both space shuttles 
Discovery and Endeavour. The oldest of these, the Discovery, entered 
service in 1984. That is 20 years after the newest KC-135 tail in the 
Arizona Air National Guard's 161st Air Refueling Wing entered service. 
And while the Discovery has been retired for ten years, that KC-135 is 
still flying daily in support of local, national, and global missions. 
As I understand it, the KC-Y will bridge the gap between the 179 
planned KC-46 tankers and the future KC-Z, or ``Advanced Air Refueling 
Tanker.'' The expectation is that the KC-Y, like the KC-46, will 
continue replacing our aging KC-135 fleet and will enter service 
sometime late this decade. Understanding that there is more than one 
competitor for the KC-Y contract, what would be the operational 
impacts, with respect to the aging KC-135 fleet, of a protest and 
subsequent delay of the KC-Y contract?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force is currently 
refining requirements/capabilities for KC-Y and will be using them to 
inform the acquisition strategy for tanker recapitalization. The two 
acquisition strategy options under consideration are Full and Open 
Competition and Sole Source. The KC-Y will be a non-developmental 
aircraft with limited developmental mission systems for connectivity 
and survivability. Delaying planned KC-Y procurement increases 
maintenance and sustainment costs and increases operational risk 
associated with the aging KC-135 fleet.

    71. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what is 
your plan to mitigate risk to the oldest KC-135s in the fleet in the 
event of a contract delay?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The KC-135 remains the 
backbone of aerial refueling operations and will continue to be for the 
foreseeable future. To ensure the aircraft's longevity, the Air Force 
is funding eight modernization efforts, including three new efforts in 
fiscal year 2023--Center Console Refresh and replacement of two legacy 
radios.
    In addition, all KC-135s are inducted into Programmed Depot 
Maintenance (PDM) every five years, where they undergo a thorough 
inspection and repair of defective components. This rigorous process 
has been key to the aircraft's longevity, and the aircraft will 
continue undergoing regular PDM induction until retirement.
    Modernization efforts and regular scheduled PDM visits are key to 
ensuring the remaining KC-135s serve the Air Force until 2040 and 
beyond.

    72. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, our KC-135 
unit in Arizona has an extremely high demand signal as one of the few 
in the West. How are you thinking about distribution of tanker assets 
as more modernized platforms come online?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Our number one priority in the 
Air Refueling portfolio is continuous recapitalization of the KC-135 
fleet. We look forward to working with Congress to ensure seamless 
modernization of the tanker fleet. KC-135 recapitalization in Arizona 
and other locations is dependent on the Air Force ability to 
expeditiously procure additional tankers after the current KC-46 
contract is complete. Any delay in delivering new tanker aircraft 
beyond the current KC-46 procurement plan will also delay providing 
modernized aircraft to units flying the KC-135.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                                  uas
    73. Senator Inhofe. General Brown is the Air Force seeing an 
increase in UAS overflight of its bases in the United States and 
overseas?
    General Brown. Yes. The commercial proliferation and availability 
of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) created new risks for the Air Force 
and other Services. In 2021, there were 497 UAS overflights at Air 
Force and Space Force bases overseas and in the Homeland that impacted 
our missions in various ways, such as ceasing airfield operations and 
posing aircraft strike hazards. Since 1 January 2022, we've already 
experienced 129 UAS overflights.
    Technology trends have dramatically transformed legitimate 
applications of UAS, while also making them increasingly dangerous 
hazards and weapons in the hands of state and non-state actors, 
criminals, and negligent hobbyists. The United States Air Force and DOD 
must continue to protect and defend our personnel, facilities and 
assets in all environments, where increasing numbers of UAS share skies 
with DOD aircraft, operate in airspace over DOD installations, and are 
employed by adversaries and negligent operators. The United States Air 
Force will continue to invest in the latest kinetic, non-kinetic, and 
directed energy solutions to keep pace with threats and ensure our 
missions are not negatively impacted.

    74. Senator Inhofe. General Brown, what actions is the Air Force 
taking to defend against UAS threats?
    General Brown. After fielding various kinetic and non-kinetic 
Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft System (C-sUAS) technologies to meet 
urgent needs at locations in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, and to 
safeguard missions supporting United States Strategic Command 
(USSTRATCOM), we designated Air Force Materiel Command as the Lead 
Command to support strategy and technology development. Our Security 
Forces perform operator duties to integrate this important mission with 
our air base ground defense skillsets. The United States Air Force has 
programmed to spend $269 million on C-sUAS research and development 
(R&D), fielding and sustainment over the next five years (fiscal years 
2023 to 2027). Currently, 87 of 187 United States Air Force locations 
have c-sUAS capability that allows for response to incursions.
    To keep pace with the threats, our strategy focuses on delivering a 
government-owned, modular, open-system with automated Command and 
Control architecture that enables a backbone for rapid integration with 
the latest sensors and effectors developed by industry, academia or 
labs.
    The Secretary of Defense designated the Army as the Executive Agent 
for C-sUAS Groups 1-3 in 2020 to unify Service efforts within the 
Department. This led to the establishment of a Joint C-sUAS Office 
(JCO) headed by the Army. We continue to work closely with the JCO, who 
is responsible for coordinating joint requirements, minimizing 
duplication and redundancy across the Services, integrating testing and 
training efforts, and managing R&D funding for new, emerging 
capabilities that will become joint solutions across the force.
                        directed energy weapons
    75. Senator Inhofe. General Brown, is the Air Force looking at 
utilizing directed energy, to include lasers and high-power microwave 
technology, for base security and integration on Air Force aircraft?
    General Brown. Yes, the United States Air Force has ongoing science 
and technology and prototyping activities that are maturing the 
technology and informing our understanding of the current and future 
utility of directed energy weapons (both high-powered microwave and 
high energy laser). The focus has included force protection for our 
bases, as well as other mission capabilities, such as aircraft system 
integration. These efforts are collaborative with our Service 
counterparts. My staff can provide more details as appropriate.
                          commercial industry
    76. Senator Inhofe. General Raymond, is the Space Force working 
with commercial industry to incorporate advancements in power 
efficiency technologies?
    General Raymond. Yes, the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) is 
looking at multiple approaches to improve the power efficiency in our 
space systems through partnership with commercial industry. Three prime 
examples are:
    1. Partnering with Sandia National labs through the Space High 
Performance Computing Center of Excellence in New Mexico. This is a 
multi-year joint effort supported by an Other Government Agency (OGA) 
that is investigating and screening processing technologies working 
towards high-performance computing on-orbit.
    2. Leveraging commercial state of the art chips that yield improved 
performance and efficiency with a wide variety of processor 
architecture types with fault tolerant designs.
    3. Collaborating with industry partners, who are providing new rad-
tolerant Single Board Computers. These partnerships are aimed at 
growing the LEO small-sat market to support increasing reliability and 
faster radiation qualification and validation, which AFRL's Hope 
program seeks to address.
                         emerging technologies
    77. Senator Inhofe. General Raymond, there are emerging 
technologies such as digital predistortion (DPD) that are improving the 
efficiency, power, and linearity of non-linear circuits. Is the Space 
Force looking at this and other technologies to improve on existing 
power efficiencies within our systems in space? Has this exploration 
been included in the Space Force budget?
    General Raymond. Yes, AFRL is working on solutions to improve the 
power efficiency in our space systems. Digital/Analog convergence, as 
well as ideas for leveraging Artificial Intelligence/Machine Learning 
in space-electronics are being worked through multiple projects at 
AFRL, such as our Spacecraft Processing Architectures and Computer 
Environment Research focusing on new solutions for data processing on-
board spacecraft to improve the power efficiency, computational 
performance, and radiation tolerance. The approach identifies and 
prioritizes the areas providing the biggest return on investment, while 
exploring new trade space for game changing concepts--adiabatic 
circuits, a low-power electronic circuit that uses ``reversible logic'' 
to conserve energy, is a great example of this. There is funding in the 
Science & Technology portfolio to pursue these efforts.
                 national security space launch program
    78. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Kendall and General Raymond, has the 
National Security Space Launch (NSSL) program benefited United States 
national security and the Space Force? If yes, how?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. Yes. Since 2013, the NSSL 
program has saved over $7B, successfully launched 59 missions, and put 
more than $48 billion of space capability on orbit. NSSL is a force 
enabler, so maintaining our 100 percent mission success is the best way 
to maximize on-orbit capability that is crucial to countering emerging 
threats. The NSSL program will continue to benefit from the savings 
associated with competition.

    79. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Kendall, General Raymond, what are 
cost impacts of launch failure on our national security in terms of 
payload and, more importantly, the loss of capability?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. Cost impacts of a launch 
failure could exceed more than a billion dollars for some of today's 
satellites; however, the loss of space capability is unacceptable and 
degrades our advantage over our adversaries. A launch failure could 
result in significant launch delays until we can get to the root cause 
of the failure and are able to address the cause. As an extreme 
example, we lost a MilStar secured communications satellite in 1999 and 
it took us more than 10 years to replace that capability with the first 
AEHF launch.

    80. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Kendall, General Raymond, last week 
Ms. Lord testified before this committee about the importance of block 
buys for National Security Space Launch (NSSL). How has block buy 
purchases impacted National Security Space Launch (NSSL)? Has it 
reduced the overall price of National Security Space Launch (NSSL)?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. Yes, since 2013 the 
Department of the Air Force has reallocated $7 billion from the launch 
budget to other warfighting capabilities. These reductions were 
achieved through block buys and competition. The future acquisition 
strategy is in work, and aims to continue providing affordable, 
reliable launch services, leveraging competition from the robust 
domestic launch industry, and providing flexibility to the warfighter.

    81. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Kendall and General Raymond, as the 
Department considers the next launch procurement contract, what new 
requirements will be included to ensure the United States leapfrogs 
Chinese and Russian efforts to impact our space capabilities?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. The National Security Space 
Launch (NSSL) program's current contract performance requirements are 
unchanged and will continue to drive the launch systems we need. 
Affordable and highly reliable launch services are critical to our 
success. To achieve this end, NSSL's next contract will utilize full 
and open competition and continue leveraging the nation's robust 
domestic launch industrial base, thus reducing the cost of launch, 
harnessing launch industry innovations such as reusable rockets, and 
providing assured access to space.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                          divestment of ea-18g
    82. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, the Navy recently submitted 
a plan to divest of 5 EA-18G squadrons, all of their land-based 
electronic attack capability. The Air Force relies on this capability 
heavily in training and deployments as a key part of operations. What 
will the real effect on the Air Force be with this divestment?
    Secretary Kendall. The entire Joint Force, not just the Air Force, 
relies on the United States Navy Expeditionary EA-18G squadrons for 
many critical missions. If the Navy divests the 5 expeditionary EA-18G, 
we will have a reduced ability to exploit the Electromagnetic Spectrum 
to impact our adversaries and protect our forces. Recent analyses by 
several COCOMs indicate that the remaining carrier-based EA-18Gs will 
not be enough to fulfill their needs, and there will be a gap in 
capability as a result of this divestiture. In this event, Air Force 
platforms will primarily be dependent on on-board defensive self-
protection jammers, until we can develop our planned future 
capabilities.

    83. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, if the Navy's request is 
approved, what is the Air Force's strategy for stand-in electronic 
attack?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force has both a Department 
Electromagnetic Spectrum Superiority Strategy and an Air Force Service 
Electromagnetic Spectrum Superiority Operating Concept. Both documents 
outline our plan for networked, distributed electromagnetic attack, 
using cognitive algorithms to compete with adversary complex emitters. 
Further information is available at another classification level. We 
are currently exploring ways to fund the key parts of our future EA 
strategy, Cognitive EA and Electromagnetic Battle Management, to meet 
DAF's pacing challenge.
                             orbital debris
    84. Senator Cotton. General Raymond, it is undeniable at this point 
that space is congested, especially in low earth orbit but increasingly 
in others as well. We have seen the Russians and Chinese conduct 
destructive tests against satellites on orbit, and who only knows what 
else is going on up there. We keep hearing about space debris from 
these kinds of events from you and others in the Space Force. Please 
tell us, what are you doing about space debris.
    General Raymond. The most important contribution the Space Force 
makes toward solving the debris problem is preventing the generation of 
additional debris in the first place. Guardians perform this function 
everyday by providing collision warnings to any and all satellite 
operators regardless of affiliation of nationality to support space 
traffic management. The Space Force is also committed to norms of 
responsible behavior, to include not conducting destructive direct 
ascent anti-satellite missile tests, enhanced engineering standards so 
satellites do not break apart at end of life, and new launch debris 
mitigation steps. From a technology perspective, knowing where the 
debris is and what spacecraft are threatened is the next step in 
mitigating the danger of orbital debris--in close collaboration with 
mission partners like U.S. Space Command and the Department of 
Commerce, the U.S. Space Force continues to modernize its Space Domain 
Awareness architecture to track and disseminate the orbital debris 
hazard. The U.S. Space Force has partnered with the most innovative 
minds in industry, academia, and research institutions to research 
state of the art technology and concepts related to debris mitigation 
and removal. This partnership will hopefully allow the U.S. Government 
to purchase debris mitigation services in the future. The U.S. Space 
Force continues to partner with the State Department to promote 
standards of responsible behavior in space. The success of this effort 
will create a broad coalition of actors committed to the responsible 
use of space now and in the future.
                  rapid response to electronic attack
    85. Senator Cotton. General Brown, Space-X recently fended off a 
Russian attempt to jam its Starlink Internet in Ukraine. Shortly after, 
the OSD Director of Electronic Warfare publicly said Space-X handled 
faster than the United States military could've if it wanted to. In 
2021 you stood up the Spectrum Warfare Wing, theoretically to handle 
problems like this one and others. How long until we can expect to see 
a similarly capable response from the Air Force in the electronic 
warfare domain?
    General Brown. The answer for current Space Force anti-jam 
capabilities is classified. It will come under separate cover from 
Chief of Space Operations. Regarding the 350th Spectrum Warfare Wing, 
it will reach IOC this summer, focused on electronic warfare 
reprogramming for airborne platforms, with emphasis on F-35, and 
building cognitive infrastructure for future capability development. 
FOC capabilities will include cognitive EW improvements per our 
strategy document. Timeline for FOC capabilities is not determined.
                  over-classification of capabilities
    86. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, I heard that shortly after 
being sworn in you directed a review of the portfolio of Special Access 
Programs with the intent to reduce the number of them in the Air Force. 
What was the result of that review?
    Secretary Kendall. I reviewed all the DAF SAPs and concluded that 
the large number of compartments and subcompartments was a serious 
obstacle to collaboration. The Deputy Secretary of Defense reached a 
similar conclusion, and as a result, the DAF is conducting a review of 
our Special Access Programs and will provide results to the Deputy 
Secretary of Defense later this year.

    87. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, there is tension between the 
strategy of ``integrated deterrence'' and the security apparatus 
purposefully designed to prevent integration of exquisite capabilities. 
What is your plan to ensure the right people, outside of higher 
headquarters buildings, have access to the information they need to 
plan, test, and train with our high-end but classified capabilities?
    Secretary Kendall. The security apparatus is designed to manage 
necessary access to personnel who require it. The DAF Office of Primary 
Responsibility oversees the security construct and enables personnel 
access, but the ability for the DAF to enable planning, testing, and 
training is based on requirements established by the warfighter 
(examples of the selective use of key Special Access Programs, or SAPs, 
include support for Weapons School, WEPTAC, exercises, or simulated war 
games). The security apparatus across the SAP enterprise similarly 
follows an acquisitions-like track for readiness to move from 
development to testing and ultimately operations capabilities towards 
apportionment under the Integrated Joint Special Technical Operations 
(IJSTO), led by AF/A3 and SF/COO. MAJCOMs and FIELDCOMs continue to 
identify gaps, where key personnel require access; improvements based 
on their feedback include the use of several access portfolios 
(including multi-domain and multi-Service capabilities) to support key 
MAJCOM and FIELDCOM staff, the Weapons and Tactics community and the 
United States Air Force Weapons School. In parallel with any 
acquisition effort, the T&E community and the warfighter community are 
kept well abreast of capability development (typically as members of 
the program office led Integrated Product Team) and the timelines and 
requirements involved to support testing and fielding. Accesses are 
continually updated based upon test community requirements to support a 
``test as we fight'' concept to ensure integration across functional 
domains and integration with other Services. The lead MAJCOM or 
FIELDCOM is responsible to establish training pipelines in cooperation 
with the formal training command and to identify the operational units 
that provide the capability to the COCOMs. The DAF coordinates accesses 
through requirements established by the acquisition community, the T&E 
community and the warfighting community to enable planning, testing, 
and training of classified capabilities.

    88. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, I've heard horror stories of 
the huge amount of time and effort spent on an outdated security 
architecture regarding Special Access Programs. Specifically, despite 
the existence of an online database of accessed individuals, Airmen and 
Guardians must ask their security managers to email visit certificates 
for temporary duty assignments as if we're still using secure fax 
machines. In the most egregious cases, Airmen within the same Wing or 
Delta that have secure facilities at the same base but managed by 
different subunits must send visit certs to go across a parking lot. 
What are you doing to address the wasted time and energy spent on this 
bureaucracy to allow our Airmen and Guardians to focus on warfighting?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF is familiar with, and shares, the 
concerns regarding the time it takes to move clearances from office to 
office, while at the same time balancing the need to maintain the 
security of these programs. However, the DAF is required to follow the 
processes and use the systems, not owned by the DAF, that work across 
the entire defense enterprise, even if that is just to communicate on 
the same base. In order to address this latency, the DAF is pursuing an 
exception to policy for visits to facilities within the purview of the 
DAF; the DAF will coordinate with other DOD components, who are likely 
experiencing the same issue. This exception to policy will nullify the 
requirement for written correspondence, adding agility and speed to the 
process.

    89. Senator Cotton. General Raymond, before he retired the last 
Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff announced an initiative to 
declassify or downgrade the classification level of the vast portfolio 
of Special Access Programs in the Space Force and Space-based. What is 
the status of that effort and when will see the results of that 
directive?
    General Raymond. Through the ongoing Space Strategic Review (SSR) 
directed by the National Security Council, the Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Space Policy is leading work that will inform a review of 
the Department's space classification and related disclosure policy. I 
anticipate that work will yield policy guidance that should be taken 
into account in carrying out appropriate review of classified programs 
managed under the authority of the Space Force as to whether the level 
of classification of a given program could be changed to a lower level, 
or the program could be declassified. This will take time as it 
requires the review of hundreds of programs, as most programs contain 
some classified information.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                          awacs modernization
    90. Senator Sullivan. General Brown, this past Tuesday, the Air 
Force finally decided on the E-7 Wedgetail to replace the aging E-3 
Sentry Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). The service's 
proposed fiscal year 2023 budget calls for the retiring of 15 E-3s, or 
almost half of the service's inventory, yet estimated delivery of the 
first E-7 platform isn't expected until 2027. Given, this, will there 
be a gap in the service's early warning and control capability?
    General Brown. There is a capability gap that exists in this 
mission area today, and it can never be filled by the E-3. We must move 
to a modern platform to close this capability gap. As for capacity, the 
E-3's availability rate has declined to an average of 40 percent and we 
routinely see lower rates on a day-to-day basis. Divesting the E-3 is 
crucial to the AF's intent to invest in the E-7A, a modern, more 
capable, and reliable airborne early warning platform. The DAF is 
exploring options to accelerate E-7 fielding.

    91. Senator Sullivan. General Brown, if the E-3 retirement timeline 
will create a gap, how is the Air Force going to mitigate it?
    General Brown. There is a capability gap that exists in this 
mission area today because of the lack of capability of the existing E-
3 fleet. We must move to a modern platform to close this capability 
gap. Retaining any number of E-3's will not help with the capability we 
need. During the transition to the E-7, the United States Air Force 
will leverage other assets including, but not limited to, Control and 
Reporting Centers and Over-the-Horizon radars, and other organic 
sensors.
    92. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, I 
understand one of the issues you face to fielding the E-7 sooner is 
that Boeing is building other 737-derived platforms and doesn't have 
excess capacity. Would more funding, sooner allow you to field E-7s 
faster?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The interdependency of the 
primary lines of effort to build a complete E-7 present a greater 
limitation than Boeing's 737 production capacity. The three primary 
lines of effort for building an E-7 are: 1) the ``green aircraft'' from 
Boeing; 2) radar integration components (Section 46 and radar); and 3) 
development of the United States mission system. All three lines of 
effort must be accelerated together to accelerate delivery of a 
complete E-7 aircraft. To aid in accelerating delivery, we would need 
new start authority to be granted in fiscal year 2022 and stable and 
predictable budgets for fiscal year 2023 and beyond. Continuing 
Resolutions (CR), regardless of length, drives uncertainty and 
inefficient execution, threatening the readiness of our force and our 
ability to keep pace with our adversaries.
                       air force arctic strategy
    93. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall, during your confirmation 
process last year, I asked you for the record, ``[i]f confirmed, can I 
get your commitment to . . . fully resource the Department of the Air 
Force's Arctic strategy so that our Nation can successfully defend the 
Homeland along our northern approaches? To which you responded, 
``[y]es.'' Since releasing its Arctic Strategy in 2020, the Air Force's 
MILCON budget priorities in the Arctic have been: runway extension and 
living quarters repair JBER, and a new dormitory to house the 
additional LRDR personnel at Clear Space Force Station. Do you believe 
these MILCON budget priorities reflect the commitment you've made to 
fully resource your Department's Arctic Strategy?
    Secretary Kendall. I believe the Department's MILCON investment 
funding of Arctic priorities is consistent with objectives in our 
Arctic Strategy. The projects highlighted are best characterized as 
supporting Current Mission. The Department schedules New Mission MILCON 
projects to provide new facilities when they are needed, as identified 
by the Program Executive Office and our strategy. Currently, the DAF is 
also making significant MILCON investments at installations in the 
Northern Tier states for the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent and for 
the Weapons Generation programs. Importantly, our MILCON projects are 
not the only reflection of our commitment to resourcing the Arctic 
Strategy. Our planned investment also includes Over the Horizon Radar 
(OTHR) sites in Northern Tier States, JPARC enhancements, Cobra Dane, 
Enhanced Polar System Recapitalization, Evolved Strategic Satellite 
Communications RDT&E, and weather system follow on improvements. In 
all, the DAF has identified approximately $1.2 billion in additional 
investments with Arctic relevance.

    94. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall, what additional Arctic 
MILCON budget priorities can we expect to see from the Air Force going 
forward?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF is working closely with the Air Force 
Research Lab and Office on Naval Research on the programming and 
planning of land acquisition and facilities construction to support 
Over the Horizon Radar (OTHR) facilities.
                     joint range operations center
    95. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall, while visiting the Joint 
Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC) with ADM Aquilino early last year, 
we were briefed on the need for a new Joint Range Operations Center 
(JROC), which is necessary to integrate the highly classified systems 
on 4th, 5th, and 6th generation aircraft and simulate combat against a 
peer adversary. JROC construction is critical to operating the JPARC 
with Threat Matrix Level 4 capability. Last year, in a question for the 
record, you said this capability ``could be the difference between 
winning and losing a future fight.'' Given this importance, when should 
we expect to see this as a priority in the Air Force's budget?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force has developed requirements for the 
Joint Range Operations Center, though they are not currently in the 
fiscal year 2023 FYDP MILCON Budget Request; the Air Force is 
considering inclusion of this requirement in a future budget request.
                    homeland defense infrastructure
    96.Senator Sullivan. General Raymond, as you are aware, Alaska is 
home to most of our Nation's ballistic missile defense and domain-
awareness infrastructure, including the recently finished long-range 
discrimination radar at Clear Space Force Station. The Air Force's 
fiscal year 2023 budget requested $68 million for a dormitory required 
to house the additional radar operators necessary to operate this new 
radar, which is essential to executing that homeland defense mission. 
What other Space Force investments are necessary to ensure our Homeland 
defense infrastructure modernizes with the threats we are facing?
    General Raymond. The dorm project at Clear SFS was one of our 
highest MILCON priorities as it supports the personnel for the new Long 
Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) in Alaska. The LRDR radar is an 
important part of the United States' ability to identify and track more 
advanced threats to the Homeland coming over the poles. Equally 
important to homeland defense is our pivot to a new resilient missile 
warning / missile tracking force design, which we initiated in the 
fiscal year 2023 President's Budget. The new missile warning / missile 
tracking force design will enable the United States Space Force to 
detect and track ever advancing missile threats, and is more resilient 
to the growing list of PRC and Russian space threats. We also continue 
to invest in several other ground based radars in Alaska and around the 
world.
                 clear space force station tour lengths
    97. Senator Sullivan. General Raymond, the community surrounding 
Clear Space Force Station is eager to host guardians and their families 
if Air Force policies permit accompanied tours. I understand that the 
Space Force has the authority to implement two or three year 
accompanied tours for guardians assigned to Clear SFS. Do you need any 
additional authorities to implement such a policy?
    General Raymond. Unfortunately, Clear SFS will likely remain an 
unaccompanied tour for the near future due to the lack of quality of 
life/family-related programs and resources on station or in the 
surrounding area. Twelve Active Duty Guardians, 105 National Guard 
personnel, and 20 Airmen are currently assigned to Clear SFS.
    1. Anderson is the closest town, population <200 per 2020 census 
(about 6 miles away) with very limited services available.
    2. Nenana is the next closest town, population <400 per 2020 census 
(about 20 miles away) with very limited services available.
    3. Fairbanks is the closest metro area, approximately a two hour 
drive away.
    Exceptions to policy could be granted (with a waiver from DOD), but 
would require thorough vetting to ensure the member could find housing 
in Anderson or Nenana, while understanding the limited community and 
family support services within the normal commuting distance of 50 
miles.
                              b-21 basing
    98. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, is the 
Air Force considering any OCONUS basing options for the B-21 Raider?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The United States Air Force is 
not currently considering OCONUS basing options for the B-21.

    99. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what is 
the process by which the Air Force is deciding where B-21 Raiders will 
be permanently and rotationally based?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Department of the Air 
Force (DAF) is using its strategic basing process to determine the 
permanent locations of the three B-21 main operating bases. The final 
basing decision for the first main operating base, Ellsworth AFB, was 
announced on June 10, 2021. The preferred locations for the remaining 
two main operating bases are (in sequence)--Whiteman AFB, and Dyess 
AFB. The DAF anticipates initiating the development of Environmental 
Impact Statements for main operating bases 2 & 3 in the 4th quarter 
fiscal year 2022. Additionally, the DAF may rotationally deploy the B-
21 as part of a Theater Support Package in future years, if required.
                           acquisition reform
    100. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall, General Brown and General 
Raymond, the GAO has identified ``adequate pricing'' as one of five key 
area vulnerabilities of the DOD. For example, the existing statutory 
language in 41 U.S.C. 103 continues to complicate the DOD' ability to 
ensure that commercial goods and services are acquired based on 
competitive market pricing that represents the best value or the best 
price. This section discusses the definition of a commercial product 
which qualifies for defense acquisition as having been, ``sold, leased, 
or licensed, or offered for sale, lease or license, to the general 
public,'' but makes no mention of demonstrated scale. This leads to the 
DOD using commercial item procedures to procure items that are 
misclassified as commercial items and therefore not subject to the 
forces of a completive marketplace. Would you support modifying 
regulations like this to ensure the DOD is getting the best acquisition 
pricing?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Raymond. The 
Department of the Air Force supports modifying the commercial items 
definitions and rules to ensure the DOD is getting the best acquisition 
pricing, by limiting commercial products and services to those that are 
subject to the forces of a competitive market. Although it is crucial 
to leverage commercial industry and commercial practices as much as 
possible, there are many instances where supplies or services are 
categorized as commercial but not sold to non-Government customers to 
any significant extent, or at all. In such circumstances, the 
Government is not gaining the benefit of the commercial market and is 
often unable to obtain sufficient cost or pricing data to evaluate the 
reasonableness of the proposed price. Addressing this concern would 
improve the Government's ability to negotiate reasonable prices and 
could also expedite acquisition timelines by ensuring the Government 
can obtain the data it needs to evaluate proposed prices. We recognize 
that industry will strongly oppose broad statutory changes in this area 
of commercial item acquisition. The Department of the Air Force 
strongly supports DOD Legislative Proposal#427, Data Requirements for 
Commercial Item Pricing Not Based on Adequate Price Competition, which 
seeks modest change with a tailored approach to obtain data to support 
new commercial ``of a type'' determinations, particularly for sole 
source items that lack adequate price competition. The Air Force 
understands that the Office of the Under Secretary for Acquisition and 
Sustainment is in active discussion with the Armed Services Committee 
staff on this matter and is exploring ways to achieve this objective.

    101. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall, General Brown and General 
Raymond, while competition should lead to lower prices, in a sole-
source environment buyers need more information to ensure they get a 
good deal. Government buyers are in the strongest negotiating position 
when they are able to review certified cost or pricing data to 
determine whether a contractor's proposed prices are fair and 
reasonable. Over the years, ``acquisition reform'' has gutted 
requirements on companies to provide this data to government officials, 
including certified cost and pricing data for goods and services that 
have been designated commercial. Would you support removing or limiting 
pricing data exemptions for commercial goods and services if they are 
acquired via sole-source?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown and General Raymond. Yes, the 
Department of the Air Force supports removing or limiting pricing data 
exemptions for commercial goods and services if they are acquired via 
sole-source. The biggest challenge to the Department is that this be 
done for ``commercial of-a-type'' items. Under this regulatory regime, 
it can be difficult for Contracting Officers to determine if prices are 
fair and reasonable in sole-source situations because contractors can 
offer items for sale without actually selling them. Contractors can put 
an item in a catalog with no intention of selling it commercially in 
order for the item to meet the minimum of the definition of commercial 
item.
    While it is crucial to leverage commercial industry and commercial 
practices to the greatest extent possible, there are many situations 
where pricing information for commercial products and services is not 
readily available to the Government. In these situations, the 
Government spends a lot of time and resources attempting to obtain data 
(often unsuccessfully) from the contractor or other sources in order to 
make a price reasonableness determination. Limiting or removing pricing 
data exemptions for commercial goods and services in such situations 
would expedite acquisition timelines and improve the Government's 
ability to assess the proposed prices for reasonableness.
    The Department of the Air Force recognizes that industry will 
strongly oppose limiting or removing pricing data exceptions for 
commercial goods and services. The Air Force supports DOD Legislative 
Proposal #427, Data Requirements for Commercial Item Pricing Not Based 
on Adequate Price Competition, which provides a reasoned set of 
circumstances for obtaining price and cost data in sole source, 
commercial ``of a type'' acquisitions.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                                testing
    102. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, what is the current role of 
modeling and ground testing for hypersonics? How should that role be 
altered or expanded?
    General Brown. Both modeling and ground testing are valuable tools 
that reinforce each other and can have strong synergy with flight test. 
Both are being improved as our knowledge of hypersonics advances. The 
Air Force and Office of Secretary of Defense Test Resource Management 
Center (OSD/TRMC) are making critical investments to recapitalize the 
Nation's hypersonic infrastructure and to develop the new hypersonic 
ground test, flight test, modeling and simulation, and analysis 
capabilities needed to support hypersonic weapon system development. In 
partnership with OSD/TRMC, significant investments are being made in 
the areas of high temperature material test facilities, hypersonic high 
speed test track, hypersonic wind tunnels for hypersonic air breathing 
engines and modeling and simulation of weather effects on hypersonic 
weapons. The Air Force and OSD/TRMC will continue to evaluate current 
and planned hypersonic investments in the modeling and simulation and 
ground test capability improvements.

    103. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Kendall, what are the immediate 
and enduring implications of starving critical infrastructure for 
testing hypersonics and other critical weapon systems?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force and DOD recognize the critical 
importance of investing in test infrastructure. In the area of 
hypersonics, the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) Test Resource 
Management Center (TRMC) is making significant investments in 
hypersonic infrastructure to include open air range test capability 
(Edwards AFB), high-speed test track capabilities (Holloman AFB), and 
high-temperature test facilities (Arnold Engineering Development 
Complex). In addition to the OSD investment, the AF is investing $336 
million across the fiscal year 2023 FYDP for hypersonic test 
infrastructure, of which 100 percent will go to AEDC. Currently for 
test infrastructure, United States Air Force invests $109 million 
(fiscal year 2023) in Facilities, Sustainment, Restoration, and 
Modernization (FSRM), of that historically 81 percent goes to AEDC. 
United States Air Force invests $65 million (fiscal year 2023) in 
modernization improvements across the test enterprise, of which 25 
percent goes to AEDC.
                           nuclear enterprise
    104. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, how does the budget balance 
the long-delayed strategic nuclear modernization program and aircraft 
procurement?
    General Brown. The Air Force must do both. In an environment of 
aggressive global competitors and technology development and diffusion, 
the Air Force must rapidly modernize to control and exploit the air 
domain, while also underwriting national security through nuclear 
deterrence to the standard the Nation expects and requires. Our budget 
fully funds our key nuclear modernization programs, makes targeted 
investments to best position the Nation for peer competition, while 
accepting risk in legacy capabilities not optimized for the future 
fight we envision.

    105. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, how does the budget support 
the design and operational nuclear certification of systems, units, and 
tests at scale for current conditions?
    General Brown. Consistent with the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review, the 
fiscal year 2023 President's Budget request fully resources nuclear 
certification requirements needed to ensure on-time fielding of safe, 
secure, reliable, and effective nuclear weapons systems. If 
appropriated, the fiscal year 2023 budget request would increase 
funding for nuclear certification activities at the Air Force Nuclear 
Weapons Center by $41.6 million to meet the oncoming ``bow wave'' of 
nuclear certification demands. These funds will support independent 
technical evaluations and testing for new nuclear systems such as 
Sentinel, Long Range Standoff (LRSO), B-21, and Weapons Generation 
Facilities, as well as sustainment of currently fielded capabilities 
(E.G., B-2, F-35, MMIII, B-52). Stable and consistent funding for 
nuclear certification remains vital to the success of Triad 
modernization programs.
     space force research development, test, and evaluation (rdt&e)
    106. Senator Blackburn. General Raymond, how is the Space Force 
collaborating with commercial industries to develop resilient and 
defendable architecture and space capabilities?
    General Raymond. Commercial applications enable diverse, 
distributed and resilient architectures and capabilities to be 
delivered quickly and economically. In our approach, we evaluate each 
mission area, assess risk, and look for opportunities to leverage 
capabilities for inclusion into the mission architecture. Space Force 
shared our force design with commercial industry early in the process 
and sought industry input. New force design must capitalize on 
commercial or we won't be able to afford the new design.
    Additionally, we will work closely with the warfighter so that our 
commercial acquisition efforts support the USSPACECOM Commercial 
Integration Strategy vision to collaborate, integrate and partner with 
industry to mitigate gaps, and maintain a competitive advantage.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
    107. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall, you committed during the 
hearing to provide any Pacific Air Forces unfunded requirements. Can 
you provide in the next 30 days a list of PACAF posture requirements 
that were identified during the fiscal year 2023 budget cycle but were 
not funded in the fiscal year 2023 budget request, along with an 
explanation for why each of those items was not funded?
    Secretary Kendall. Pacific Air Forces is the Air Force component 
supporting INDOPACOM. In fiscal year 2023, in accordance with DOD 
guidance, the Air Force requested $86.8 million in Operations and 
maintenance funds to support the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI). 
The INDOPACOM Commander's fiscal year 2023 unfunded priorities 
submitted to Congress listed four United States Air Force equities: 
Service Tactical Signal Intelligence (SIGINT); Upgrades, Joint Air-to-
Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM), Theater Campaigning, and Mission 
Partner Environment (MPE); Battlefield Information Collection & 
Exploitation System--Extended (BICES-X).

    108. Senator Hawley. General Brown, I understand the Air Force's 
``palletized munitions'' concept offers a promising way to expand U.S. 
strike capacity and deliver longer-range weapons at a lower cost. Do 
you think this concept is promising?
    General Brown. Yes, the concept is promising with respect to 
delivering massed effects over time. With more weapons needed, and less 
time to deliver them, we are forced to investigate non-traditional 
methods of delivering weapons. Palletized delivery, for any number of 
different weapons, allows us to dramatically increase the number of 
weapons we can deliver in a compressed period.

    109. Senator Hawley. General Brown, has the Air Force considered 
using C-130Hs as delivery vehicles for palletized munitions?
    General Brown. Yes, the Air Force has considered this, and we have 
not precluded integration on the C-130H in the future. For now, we have 
prioritized the C-130J and C-17 due to their increased performance, 
including a larger combat radius, which we will need in Pacific 
scenarios.

    110. Senator Hawley. General Brown, what progress has the Air Force 
made on operationalizing Agile Combat Employment over the last year, 
where have you met delays, and what are your priorities for ACE over 
the coming year?
    General Brown. We had done a lot of ACE experimentation in previous 
years to prove out this way of operating, and over the past year that 
emphasis has shifted to making the concept a reality across all aspects 
of airpower. Over the past year our focus has been on developing the 
enterprise concept to support the detailed training, team structures, 
tactics, partner nation relationships, supporting infrastructure, and 
enabling capabilities for ACE. ACE looks a bit different in the Indo-
Pacific versus in Europe, or for fighter aircraft than it does for 
bombers or our mobility aircraft. We've challenged ourselves to 
understand those differences and develop a strategy for how we can 
organize, train, and equip the force to conduct ACE worldwide. The ACE 
exercises we've conducted over the past year have shown us how to 
conduct dispersed operations effectively, and they've strengthened our 
interoperability with our allies and partners worldwide. Looking ahead, 
our focus is on solidifying and formalizing how we will conduct ACE, 
and in prioritizing the investments that will make it possible. We see 
no delays in meeting these objectives.

    111. Senator Hawley. General Brown, when do you expect Agile Combat 
Employment to reach Initial Operational Capability and Full Operational 
Capability?
    General Brown. ACE is a way of operating that is made possible by a 
wide range of capabilities, procedures, and dispersed operating 
locations, so it's a bit challenging to use terms like initial 
operating capability or final operating capability as we would with a 
new weapon system. Each of our Major Commands has developed its own 
criteria for what it considers to be a baseline ability to conduct ACE 
that will effectively assure our allies and partners, deter aggression, 
or respond to crises. We can discuss those criteria in a different 
forum. We'll continually improve on that baseline as we learn through 
doing, integrate with our joint and combined partners, and bring new 
capabilities to bear to support this resilient way of generating 
airpower.

    112. Senator Hawley. General Brown, the Guam cluster will play an 
important role in future air operations in the Pacific. This in mind, 
can you explain how the fiscal year 2023 budget request supports 
development of operational locations and related activities in the Guam 
cluster?
    General Brown. The Air Force is in continuous dialogue with 
INDOPACOM on the development of operational locations and forward 
posture. We are working together to identify requirements and what is 
needed to balance those requirements, considering global commitments. 
Simultaneously, we are taking a look at what is required to ensure our 
servicemen and women, across the Department of Defense, have the 
training required to handle all the threats we think we may face, not 
only in the Indo-Pacific, but in Europe as well.

    113. Senator Hawley. General Brown, as you know, Whiteman Air Force 
Base is the home of the B-2 stealth bomber. Can you confirm that 
sustainment is on track to keep the B-2s mission ready until they're 
replaced by B-21s?
    General Brown. Yes, the Department values a well-funded B-2 Weapon 
System Sustainment program in the fiscal year 2023 President's Budget 
and the B-2 will continue to provide capacity until B-21 fields.

    114. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall, the 509th Bomb Wing and the 
Missouri Air National Guard's 131st Bomb Wing both fly B-2s out of 
Whiteman. These units are fully integrated and a great example of how 
our Active Duty and Air National Guard forces can work to complement 
one another. Does the Air Force plan to maintain total integration 
between the 509th and 131st Bomb Wings when B-21s are fielded, or are 
you considering putting an end to that arrangement?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force supports the current association 
construct between the 509 BW and 131 BW and will strive to maintain it 
in all future actions and missions at Whiteman AFB.

    115. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall, how does the Air Force plan 
to transition from B-2s to B-21s at Whiteman Air Force Base?
    Secretary Kendall. For each Main Operating Base, we will seek to 
expeditiously transition units away from the legacy bomber platforms, 
and to the B-21. Upon arrival of the B-21, we gain the greatest 
efficiencies for our Airmen and the mission, by shifting our training 
and employment focus as quickly as possible away from the legacy 
platform and to the B-21. Specific to the B-2, we will also be mindful 
to holistically maintain our nuclear requirements through the 
transition.

    116. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall, how will ``advanced 
collaborative platforms'' improve the Air Force's ability to counter 
Chinese air forces and when do you expect these capabilities to reach 
Initial Operational Capability and Full Operational Capability? Please 
provide a classified response, if necessary.
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force is currently exploring operational 
concepts and working with industry partners to evaluate technical 
maturity. Once these activities are complete we will be able to share 
more information in a classified response.

    117. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall, Air Force Magazine reported 
on April 28, 2022 that the Air Force is accelerating the production 
timeline for the B-21 program by overlapping development and 
production. Given this development, what is the current Initial 
Operational Caand Full Operational Capability estimate for the B-21 
program? Please provide a classified response, if necessary.
    Secretary Kendall. More complete program definition will be 
included in the fiscal year 2024 President's budget. IOC and FOC have 
not been finalized yet, but IOC can be expected later this decade.

    118. Senator Hawley. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, you 
stated during the hearing that the Air Force has multiple anti-ship 
capabilities other than the Long-Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM). What 
are those capabilities, when will they become available (if they are 
not already), and how do they compare to LRASM in terms of their 
ability to sink or disable enemy ships in a contested environment?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. More complete program 
definition will be included in the fiscal year 2024 President's budget. 
IOC and FOC have not been finalized yet, but IOC can be expected later 
this decade.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                              flight hours
    119. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, 
studies have shown that a pilot needs at least 200 flight hours per 
year or four sorties a week to remain combat ready. How many flight 
hours did United States Air Force pilots average in 2021 and what is 
your expectation for that number in 2022?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Overall, Air Force pilots flew 
an average of 135 hours in 2021 with Fighter Pilots averaging 103 
hours. Factoring in planned force structure reductions and moderate 
inflation, we anticipate Air Force pilots will be able to fly 130 hours 
in 2022, with fighter pilots averaging approximately 101 hours.

    120. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, at 
present, how many Air Force pilots are considered combat ready?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The number of pilots 
considered combat ready can fluctuate from day-to-day and month-to-
month given pilots are continually moving through some level of 
initial, upgrade, or continuation training as part of the normal course 
of our pilot experiencing cycle. For operational security purposes, we 
will need to provide those numbers in a closed session. Generally 
speaking though, in order to have a healthy, sustainable, and properly 
sized mission ready crew force, the Air Force needs to maintain a 
balance of experienced and inexperienced pilots to include an 
appropriate number of instructors to support the continuum of training. 
Today, the Air Force is challenged to both produce and absorb the 
number of pilots it needs. Currently, the Air Force is 1,650 Total 
Force pilots short of its requirement and needs to produce 1,500 pilots 
annually. However, at the same time, our pilots are flying on average 
30 percent below the required hours annually, which is impacting our 
ability to absorb and season the pilots we produce. By absorb, we mean 
train our pilots at the right pace to keep that proper balance of 
experienced and inexperienced pilots at the unit level. By season, we 
mean make inexperienced pilots combat ready and allow them to progress 
until they are experienced. If the current trend continues, we will 
have an overly inexperienced force in the future. Therefore, we must 
start flying more in order to properly experience the force and 
similarly train to the proficiency required to prevail against a peer 
adversary. Divesting our oldest, least operationally relevant systems 
may be one component that could free-up resources to supplement flying 
hours on our most needed platforms and help buttress combat readiness. 
While not a panacea in itself, it would be supplemental and a move in 
the right direction for combat readiness.

    121. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what 
resources do you need to ensure all U.S. Air Force pilots are combat 
ready?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. While not all pilots are 
combat ready, because a portion are in initial or upgrade training, a 
properly resourced flying training program is needed to absorb, 
upgrade, and train our pilots. We now fly about 30 percent less hours 
than the training requirement, which impacts combat readiness. Improved 
combat readiness requires investment in manpower, the sustainment 
enterprise, and our operational training infrastructure. We need 
continued congressional support for tough choices to free up resources, 
including divestment of our oldest, least operationally relevant 
systems. Divesting legacy platforms particularly helps us with our 
maintenance manpower shortfall. 9 percent of our maintenance positions 
are currently unfunded and approximately 50 percent of our aircraft 
maintenance personnel have less than six years of experience. Divesting 
a portion of the A-10 fleet alone would free up approximately 900 
critical maintenance personnel. Additionally, sustainment requirements 
are exceeding our ability to keep pace. Maintenance workload has 
increased more than 50 percent in the past 25 years and legacy aircraft 
break 33 percent more often. We also forecast a 54 percent increase in 
depot workload over the next 20 years due to modernization requirements 
and structural life extension actions. New aircraft are expensive to 
procure, but old aircraft have accelerating costs simply to keep 
flying. These resourcing challenges limit the amount of flying hours we 
can generate and directly impact our combat readiness. Continued 
congressional support provides the resources needed to strike a balance 
between crucial modernization and current force readiness.
                  combat and support wing evaluations
    122. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, at 
present, Air Force combat and support wings are responsible for 
evaluating themselves. This used to be the job of the Inspector 
General. Is it true that since wings moved to evaluating themselves 
that their passing grades have increased dramatically?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Wings and wing-equivalent 
units across the Department are responsible for self-assessment 
processes, while they also receive external inspections, including 
those regularly conducted by MAJCOM or equivalent levels under the Air 
Force Inspection System. Since implementation of the current Air Force 
Inspection System in 2013, we've noticed no significant difference in 
wing-level pass rates. In comparing all wing-level Unit Effectiveness 
Inspections conducted during the most recent two-year period to the 
last two years of wing-level inspections conducted during the previous 
inspection system, the pass rate is actually slightly lower now:
    Inspection Pass Rate Jun 2020 to May 2022:
    163 inspections. 6 Marginally Effective or Ineffective (2). Pass 
Rate=96.3 percent
    Inspection Pass Rate Jan 2011 to Dec 2013:
    193 inspections. 3 Marginal or Unsatisfactory (2). Pass Rate=98.5 
percent
    While pass rates and grades are important in terms of overall 
assessments, it is important to note that a strong DAF-wide unit 
culture of critical self-assessment, along with the robust and rigorous 
processes of the Air Force Inspection System, have identified 6,486 
deficiencies across the Department in the last two years alone. All of 
these deficiencies are tracked to resolution.

    123. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, share 
your thoughts on transitioning wing evaluations to the Air Force I.G.
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force Inspector 
General closely oversees policy, process, and trending for inspections 
of all units in the Department, from wing, delta, and garrison level, 
up to our headquarters staffs. For the entire Department, including the 
United States Space Force (USSF), the Air Force Inspection System 
(AFIS) is built upon the premise that Commanders at all levels have the 
responsibility to assess their units' effectiveness, efficiency, 
discipline, and readiness. Inspectors General (IGs) independently and 
objectively inspect readiness and compliance of a commander's 
subordinate units by carrying out inspection responsibilities and 
activities as required by United States Code, DOD policy, and DAF 
instructions. Each wing-level commander is required to conduct 
continuous internal self-inspection activities. By way of illustration, 
during a two-year command tour, a typical wing-level commander will 
experience more than 100 inspection events, either conducted or 
overseen by an organic team of IG personnel or by external IG teams 
from higher-headquarters level. All IG team members are trained by the 
Air Force Inspector General. Most wing-level commands are also 
inspected 2-3 times per year by a MAJCOM (or equivalent) level for 
mission readiness and compliance. Each MAJCOM-level IG independently 
reports the results of those inspections to the MAJCOM (or equivalent) 
Commander. Adding another layer of oversight on behalf of the Air Force 
Inspector General, the Air Force Inspection Agency conducts inspections 
of MAJCOM-level IG teams to guarantee planning, execution, quality, 
standardization, objectivity, and thoroughness of inspections across 
the Department of the Air Force. Finally, AFIS employs a continuous-
evaluation process over multi-year inspection windows, rather than 
relying solely upon single-snapshot inspections. Under this construct, 
inspections accomplished on wings and garrisons that are orchestrated 
by wing-level IG personnel may be incorporated into a MAJCOM IG's 
assessment of each wing. In addition to validating local self-
assessments, MAJCOM-level IG teams inspect the quality of the wing-
level self-assessment program and incorporate a risk-based sampling 
system to assess the wing across the range of readiness and compliance 
areas.
                     national security space launch
    124. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, General Raymond, what 
are the most successful aspects of the U.S. launch program?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. The most successful aspects 
of the National Security Space Launch program are its 100 percent 
mission success rate, robust competition from the industrial base, and 
significant reduction in launch cost. The NSSL Phase 2 contract, 
awarded to United Launch Alliance and SpaceX in August 2020, produced 
commercial-like prices for commercial-like missions and reduced launch 
costs for our more demanding missions by more than 50 percent, while 
providing assured access to space and stability to our launch 
providers.

    125. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, General Raymond, has 
the transition from single launch procurement awards to block buys 
reduced the price of space launch?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. Yes, since 2013 the Space 
Force has reallocated $7 billion from the launch budget to other 
warfighting capabilities. These reductions were achieved through block 
buys and competition. The future acquisition strategy is in work, and 
aims to continue providing affordable, reliable launch services, 
leveraging competition from the robust domestic launch industry, and 
providing flexibility to the warfighter.

    126. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, General Raymond, as the 
department considers the next launch procurement contract, what new 
requirements will be included to ensure the United States beats Chinese 
and Russian efforts to impact our space capabilities?
    Secretary Kendall and General Raymond. The National Security Space 
Launch (NSSL) program's current contract performance requirements are 
unchanged and will continue to drive the launch systems we need to 
retain space superiority. Affordable and highly reliable launch 
services are the most critical aspects to achieving this superiority. 
To achieve this end, NSSL's next contract will utilize full and open 
competition and continue leveraging the Nation's robust domestic launch 
industrial base, thus reducing the cost of launch, harnessing launch 
industry innovations such as reusable rockets, and providing a 100 
percent mission success rate.



  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              ARMY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Gillibrand, 
Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Duckworth, 
Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, 
Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Blackburn, and Hawley.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call the hearing to order.
    The Committee meets today to receive testimony on the 
President's Defense Budget Request for the Army for fiscal year 
2023. Our witnesses this morning are Christine Wormuth, 
Secretary of the Army, and General James McConville, Chief of 
Staff of the Army. Thank you both for your service, and please 
convey the gratitude of this committee to the men and women 
serving under you.
    President Biden's Defense Budget Request for fiscal year 
2023 includes approximately $178 billion in funding for the 
Army, an increase of $2.8 billion from the fiscal year 2022 
enacted budget. The Army's request appropriately focuses on 
taking care of its people, enhancing training and readiness, 
and modernizing equipment, but it does so against a largely 
flat budget. As such, the Army has prepared a tightly crafted 
budget that attempts to balance all its priorities. However, to 
maintain momentum on its signature modernization efforts, the 
Army has significantly slowed its procurement of enduring 
capabilities. This effort to hold onto every program has 
inevitably led to inefficiency and ``spending more for less.'' 
To avoid triggering further increases in cost per unit, I would 
like to know how the Army can ensure it makes best use of its 
resources even as it reduces procurement quantities.
    The military is shifting its focus and resources to the 
Indo-Pacific region, and the Army has a critical role to play 
in this theater, including contributions to Joint Force 
capabilities, enabling logistics and prepositioned stocks, and 
strengthening relationships with our allies. With that in mind, 
I am interested in hearing about the Army's view of its mission 
globally, especially in the Indo-Pacific, as well as how the 
service is adjusting its operating concepts and force posture 
to support the National Defense Strategy.
    The Army's most valuable asset has always been its people. 
I am pleased to see this budget request places a priority on 
taking care of our men and women in uniform and the civilians 
who serve alongside them, including an across-the-board pay 
raise for military and civilian personnel of 4.6 percent. At 
the same time, this budget would decrease the Army's end 
strength to just under one million soldiers, largely due to a 
difficult recruiting environment. I understand the Army is 
conducting a holistic review of its recruiting and retention 
practices, and I would ask for an update on how you plan to 
identify and attract a broader pool of potential recruits and 
grow back-end strength in the out years.
    The Army must continue to improve its readiness in the 
context of long-term strategic competition. This budget 
increases flying hours and training miles to improve the 
readiness of the individual soldier. It also funds numerous 
rotations to Combined Training Centers to maintain unit-level 
readiness. Further, the Army's ongoing focus on large training 
exercises, including the Defender series in Europe and the 
Pacific, and its leadership in the Project Convergence series, 
demonstrate a commitment to regional preparedness. These large-
scale events not only test system capabilities, exercise 
critical skills like deployment of the force, and demonstrate 
the value of prepositioned stocks, they also facilitate joint 
and coalition experimentation and training, reflecting how the 
United States would fight in future operations. We are seeing 
the importance of efforts like this right now in Ukraine.
    The Army's budget request includes an overall decrease in 
research, development, test, and evaluation, RDT&E, but makes 
important increases in several cutting-edge technology areas. 
To remain competitive with China and Russia we must continue to 
invest in emerging technologies that will define future 
battlefields across all domains. The Army specifically has been 
pursuing modernization in the areas of long-range precision 
fires, air and missile defense, soldier lethality, next-
generation combat vehicles, future vertical lift, and the 
communications network. These are ambitious and far-sighted 
objectives, but we must acknowledge that the Army has 
historically struggled to modernize effectively.
    The establishment of Army Futures Command and the 
reorganization of associated commands injected tremendous 
energy into modernization efforts, and Congress has provided 
the Army with wide latitude to make programmatic and structural 
changes. The Army recently published a directive that refines 
and clarifies roles and responsibilities for Army 
Modernization. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, I would 
ask that you update the committee on the Army's modernization 
efforts and what resources are necessary to effectively 
continue them.
    Again, I thank the witnesses for their participation today 
and I look forward to their testimonies.
    At this point let me now recognize the ranking member, 
Senator Inhofe.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Chairman Reed. I join you in 
welcoming our witnesses. I had an opportunity, and have in the 
past, several times, of getting to know them quite well, and I 
appreciate the efforts and the challenges they are facing right 
now.
    For 4 years this committee has used the 2018 National 
Defense Strategy and Commission report as the roadmap. We have 
gotten our money's worth out of this thing over the last couple 
of years.
    Rightly, the Biden administration recently released a 
defense strategy underscoring the accelerating threat of the 
Chinese Communist Party and its unprecedented military 
modernization.
    Unfortunately, the Administration has sent to Congress a 
budget request that does not provide the resources necessary to 
combat that threat or others that we are facing right now. Not 
only does it fail to provide the 3 to 5 percent real growth 
recommendation that is in the NDS report and that we have been 
following for a number of years, it does not even keep up with 
the record-high inflation we are facing.
    The absence of real growth in the request, combined with 
record-high inflation, would leave our military under-
resourced.
    This is most evident in the budget request for the Army. Of 
course, those of us old Army guys always observe that Army gets 
the short end of this stuff when changes are made. Am I the 
only one who ever observes this, Mr. Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. No, sir.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. Anyway, the request cuts military 
construction by 39 percent, it cuts research and development by 
6 percent, and cuts procurement by 7 percent. Notably, the 
procurement cut would substantially slow modernization of 
armored brigade combat teams which are essential to deter 
further Russian aggression.
    Given the inadequate budget request, it is no surprise that 
the Army's unfunded priorities list, what I call the risk list, 
totals $5.1 billion.
    I look forward to understanding from our witnesses the 
risks associated with this budget request. Additionally, I look 
forward to hearing what will be done to overcome a significant 
recruiting challenge. This is one that I have not seen before, 
and I think it is more severe than any challenge that we have 
had in the past, and that is that we are now facing, just in 
this year, a request shortfall of 12,000.
    So Mr. Chairman, clearly we have got a lot to do to ensure 
that our military has the resources that they need Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Let me now recognize the Secretary of the Army, Christine 
Wormuth. Madam Secretary.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CHRISTINE WORMUTH, SECRETARY OF THE 
                              ARMY

    Secretary Wormuth. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for your 
ongoing support for the Army as we continue to work to 
significant transform to meet future threats. I am really 
pleased to appear before you today as I near the 1-year mark of 
being Secretary of the Army. We have accomplished a lot this 
year but we have a lot of work ahead of us.
    We remain focused on our three key priorities: people, 
readiness, and modernization. The fiscal year 2023 budget 
request enables us to support the National Defense Strategy, 
take care of our people, and meet operational demands at home 
and abroad. We will invest $35 billion in modernization, almost 
$2 billion in military housing and infrastructure, and fund 22 
combat training center rotations in fiscal year 2023.
    We are modestly reducing our end strength from 485,000 
soldiers in the Active component to 476,000 soldiers this year 
and about 473,000 soldiers in fiscal year 2023. We are doing 
this because we are really focused on ensuring a high-quality 
force. We did not want to have to lower our recruiting 
standards. At the same time, we are working hard to adjust our 
recruiting efforts, given the challenging recruiting 
environment that we and the other services are facing.
    We are also committed to maintain our momentum on our six 
major modernization portfolios. In fiscal year 2023 alone we 
will field four Long Range Precision Fire systems, the first 
Long-Range Hypersonic Weapon battery, our ship-sinking, 
midrange capability, the Precision Strike Missile, and the 
Extended Range Cannon Artillery platform. We are also 
modernizing our air and missile defense systems and adding 
another Patriot battalion to our force structure. We continue 
to fund both the develop of FLRAA [Future Long-Range Assault 
Aircraft] and FARA [Future Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft], 
which are scheduled to field in about 2030.
    As important as it is to maintain momentum on 
modernization, people are the strength of our Army and our 
greatest asset. This budget increases soldier and Army civilian 
pay and funds a number of important quality-of-life 
improvements, including barracks family housing and childcare 
initiatives.
    We remain focused on building positive command climates 
across the Army. Positive command climates begin with good 
leaders, and our new leader assessment programs are truly 
helping us to select the very best leaders for command.
    To reduce harmful behaviors we are building out a 
prevention workforce that will help us with our efforts to 
build cohesive teams that are trained, disciplined, and fit. 
Our SHARP Fusion Directorate pilot brings together, in one 
place, all of the resources to assist victims of sexual 
harassment and assault and those pilots are up and running. We 
have also hired a new civilian director for our Criminal 
Investigative Division, and we will establish the Office of 
Special Trial Counsel later this summer.
    We continue striving to prevent suicide in our ranks. We 
have started conducting 100 percent mental health wellness 
checks in some of our units, and we are surging behavioral 
health resources to where they are most needed, even as we 
confront a national shortage of providers.
    As we focus on taking care of soldiers and their families 
and transforming to meet future threats, the Army also plays a 
key role in addressing threats in the here and now. Today we 
have over 45,000 soldiers in Europe to reassure our allies, 
deter aggression against NATO [North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization] territory, and assist Ukraine in its fight to 
defend itself. The Army, as you all know, has provided a wide 
range of lethal assistance to Ukraine, including Javelins, 
Stingers, Howitzers, drones, ammunition, and even MI-17 
helicopters.
    While we are focused on Europe we have not taken our eye 
off the pacing challenge of China in Indo-Pacific. Through 
Operation Pacific Pathways, we deployed thousands of Army 
forces and equipment sets to the region for exercises that 
strengthen Joint Force integration, demonstrate combat 
capability, and promote interoperability. In just the last 2 
years, our Fifth Security Force Assistance Brigade has deployed 
40 advisory teams to 14 different nations.
    The interoperability and relationships our Army forces are 
building with allies in the region increased the potential for 
additional access and combined action in the event of a future 
conflict. Our access presence and influence around the world 
are enduring advantages that contribute to integrated 
deterrence.
    To continue building this enduring advantage relative to 
our adversaries we have to pursue cutting-edge experimentation 
and innovation. Much of our experimentation activity will 
culminate this fall at Project Convergence 2022, where our 
sister services will join us with operational units and new 
technologies to work together to solve key operational 
challenges.
    America's Army is fit, trained, and ready when called upon 
to fight and win the nation's wars. We are transforming for the 
future, which we have to do, given the very dangerous security 
environment we face each day. I am proud of everything that our 
soldiers do to protect our country, and look forward to your 
questions this morning.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Secretary.
    General McConville, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES McCONVILLE, CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE 
                              ARMY

    General McConville. All right. Apache Pilot will get that 
thing straight. Okay.
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished members 
of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to be here 
today and for your continued support to the Army and our 
people, our soldiers of all components, our families, our 
civilians, and our Soldiers for Life, our veterans, and 
retirees. Speaking of Soldiers for Life, we would like to thank 
Senator Inhofe for your many years of service in support to the 
Army and the nation, from basic training at Fort Chaffee and 
all your years on Capitol Hill. We wish you all the best in a 
well-deserved retirement. So thank you, sir.
    The men and women of the United States Army stand ready to 
fight and win our nation's wars, as a member of the Joint 
Force, and I could not be more proud of each and every one of 
them. The Army is well-aligned with the National Defense 
Strategy through our existing priorities of people, readiness, 
and modernization. We win through our people. They are our 
greatest strength, and they are our most important weapon 
system, and that is why people remain the Army's number one 
priority.
    We are in a war for talent. That means recruiting our 
nation's best and modernizing our talent management systems. 
That means retaining our best. We recruit soldiers but we 
retain families, so we are ensuring access to quality housing, 
health care, childcare, spouse employment and PCS moves. When 
our soldiers get the call that it is time to deploy, we want 
them laser-focused on their mission, knowing that their 
families will be well taken care of at home. Above all, putting 
our people first means building cohesive teams, where everyone 
is treated with dignity and respect, and everyone, in every 
unit, is highly trained, disciplined, and fit, and ready to 
fight and win.
    But being ready today is not good enough. We must also be 
sure we are ready tomorrow, and that is what modernization is 
all about--future readiness. The Army continues to undergo the 
greatest transformation in over 40 years, and we remain 
committed to our six modernization priorities. We will have 24 
signature modernization systems in the hands of our soldiers by 
fiscal year 2023, either for testing or fielding, and also in 
fiscal year 2023 we will stand up the third of our five multi-
domain task forces.
    The U.S. Army never fights alone, so we continue to invest 
in strengthening our relationships with allies and partners 
across the globe. We can see the return in those investment in 
our response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Never before have 
we asked so many to move so quickly, and we could not do it 
without the access and presence our allies and partners 
provide.
    In less than a week, the 1st Armored Division of the 3rd 
Infantry Division was able to deploy from Fort Stewart, 
Georgia, and be on the ground in Germany, starting live-fire 
exercise with tanks drawn from the Army prepositioned stocks in 
Europe. That is a testament to our tactical and strategic 
readiness, to the quality of our incredible logisticians, and 
to the investments Congress has made over the last several 
years in setting the European theater.
    When it is time to go, we go with the Army we have, and the 
Army we have is the world's greatest fighting force. We must 
ensure it stays that way, and with your continued support we 
will.
    I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of The Honorable Christine E. 
Wormuth and General James C. McConville follows:]

  Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Christine E. Wormuth and 
                      General James C. McConville
            putting the army on a sustainable strategic path
    America's Army remains prepared to fight and win our Nation's wars 
as a member of the Joint Force, and we continue to serve as the 
Nation's premier response force to protect Americans, our Allies, and 
our interests when unexpected crises arise at home and abroad. We thank 
Congress for providing the funding that allowed us to deliver highly-
trained forces for a broad spectrum of challenges, including continued 
COVID-19 response efforts in local communities, unprecedented natural 
disasters, the largest non-combatant evacuation operation in U.S. 
military history, and now support to NATO in response to Russia's 
unprovoked invasion into Ukraine.
    As the Army continues its most significant transformation in over 
40 years, our priorities continue to be people, readiness, and 
modernization. Building upon those priorities, the Army further defined 
six objectives to guide the force towards a vision of the Army of 2030. 
First, we are ensuring the Army continues down a sustainable strategic 
path that allows us to transform to face new challenges without 
sacrificing our readiness to answer our Nation's call anytime, 
anywhere. Second, we must ensure the Army becomes more data-centric and 
capable of operating in contested environments in order to prevail on 
the modern battlefield. Third, we must continue our efforts to be 
resilient in the face of climate change, adapting our installations, 
acquisitions programs, and training to remain ready to operate in a 
changing environment. Fourth, we are building positive command climates 
at scale across all Army formations. Fifth, we must reduce the harmful 
behaviors that hurt our soldiers and break trust with the American 
people, including sexual harassment and assault, racism and extremism, 
and domestic violence. Sixth, we must strategically adapt the way we 
recruit and retain our Nation's best talent to sustain the All-
Volunteer Force.
    This year's budget request supports these priorities and 
objectives, enables us to maintain momentum on our six modernization 
portfolios, and aligns the Army with the strategic ways of the 2022 
National Defense Strategy (NDS): Integrated Deterrence, Campaigning, 
and Building Enduring Advantages.
                 army support to integrated deterrence
    Integrated deterrence is a whole-of-government effort across 
multiple domains, theaters, and the spectrum of conflict to ensure that 
the Joint Force--in close coordination with the U.S. interagency, and 
our Allies and partners--makes the costs of aggression so clear to our 
adversaries that they refrain from hostile behavior altogether. The 
Army's role is to provide combatant commanders with combat-credible 
ground forces capable of fighting and winning in large scale combat 
operations. We are the backbone of the Joint Force in the Indo-Pacific, 
our priority theater for responding to China as our pacing challenge. 
In Europe, the Army remains the tip of the Joint-Force spear in 
responding to Russia as an acute threat and reassuring our NATO Allies.
    Combat-credible ground forces for deterrence. To echo the Secretary 
of Defense, our support for Ukraine is unwavering, and our commitment 
to defend every inch of NATO territory is ironclad. In recent months, 
we have collectively witnessed a return on multiple investments that 
Congress and the Army have made over the past several years, especially 
the European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) and Army Prepositioned Stocks 
(APS). The U.S. Army has over 45,000 troops committed to reassuring our 
NATO Allies and supporting our Ukrainian partners, including those 
assigned to U.S. Army Europe-Africa, which we elevated to a four-star 
command in 2020. Our deployed forces now include two Corps--the XVIII 
Airborne Corps and our newly re-activated V Corps--two Divisions--the 
82nd Airborne Division and 1st Infantry Division--six Brigade Combat 
Teams, and two Combat Aviation Brigades. Three of the six brigades we 
have committed in Europe are Armored Brigade Combat Teams (ABCTs): 1st 
ABCT, 1st Infantry Division; 1st ABCT, 3rd Infantry Division; and 3rd 
ABCT, 4th Infantry Division. In addition to the large-scale deployments 
to NATO's eastern flank, as of April 2022, U.S. Army Special Operations 
Command has hundreds of personnel supporting 38 missions with Allies 
and partners across 17 different European countries.
    Never before has the U.S. Army moved so many forces so quickly. It 
took less than one week after receiving deployment orders for an 
armored brigade to deploy from Savannah, Georgia and be on the ground 
in Germany starting live-fire exercises with tanks drawn from APS in 
Europe. That is a testament to years spent investing in our alliances 
and partnerships, and to maintaining strong relationships that enabled 
the Army the access and presence needed to bolster NATO deterrence. 
This also demonstrates the importance of setting the European theater 
over the past several years to deter conflict, and responding quickly 
to fight and win should deterrence fail. It also speaks to the Army's 
collective readiness--not just the tactical readiness of our combat 
units, but the strategic readiness of our logisticians, mobilization 
force generation installations, and power projection platforms required 
to equip, transport, and project those units.
    Rapid crisis response at scale across the globe. Rapid crisis 
response capabilities to defend our interests and protect our citizens 
across the globe is another component of integrated deterrence. Last 
year in Afghanistan, the Army deployed elements from the 82nd Airborne 
Division, 10th Mountain Division, Army Special Operations Forces, 
Minnesota and Vermont National Guard, the Army Reserve's 936th Forward 
Resuscitative Surgical Detachment, and multiple sustainment and 
military police enablers to Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA) 
to support an extraordinarily difficult and dangerous non-combatant 
evacuation operation. Working hand-in-hand with the Marine Corps and 
Air Force, Army soldiers helped to evacuate more than 124,000 American 
citizens, Allies, partners, and Afghans who fought for our values over 
the past 20 years. At the height of operations, 17,000 soldiers across 
the NORTHCOM, EUCOM, and CENTCOM areas of responsibility supported 
Afghan Special Immigrant Visa application and family relocation 
efforts. Working closely with interagency partners, more than 8,000 
soldiers from all components supported Operation Allies Welcome, 
relocating more than 76,000 Afghans to the continental United States.
    Contributions to Homeland Defense. Integrated deterrence begins at 
home with domestic resilience against strategic attacks. By integrating 
the Army's Homeland Defense capabilities with the Joint Force and 
federal, state, and local partners, the Army enables the Nation's rapid 
response for disaster relief, as well as critical infrastructure 
attacks. Nowhere is that more apparent than in our Army Reserve and 
National Guard. Over the last year, the Army Reserve and National Guard 
have been the backbone for our Defense Support to Civil Authorities, 
responding to everything from hurricanes, tornadoes, and winter storms 
to wildfires, floods, and the Southwest Border. The National Guard has 
made an invaluable contribution to the Nation's COVID-19 response, 
deploying 16,670 soldiers across 44 states, 3 territories, and the 
District of Columbia. Their missions included everything from COVID 
screening, testing, and contact-tracing to vaccine storage, transport, 
and distribution. The National Guard also provided vital healthcare 
facility assistance for some of the country's most vulnerable 
populations.
     maintaining the modernization momentum toward the army of 2030
    Modernization is future readiness, and we remain firmly committed 
to the six modernization portfolios we defined to Congress in 2018: 
Long Range Precision Fires, Next Generation Combat Vehicle, Future 
Vertical Lift, the Network, Integrated Air and Missile Defense, and 
Soldier Lethality. By the end of fiscal year 2023, we will deliver 24 
of our signature modernization efforts into the hands of soldiers, 
either for experimentation, testing, or fielding. We could not achieve 
this rapid development without congressional support and authorities. 
Middle Tier Acquisition authorities and Other Transaction Authorities 
are helping the Army to reduce bureaucracy, streamline decision making, 
and accelerate the development of systems in order to field 
capabilities more quickly. The Army has also forged partnerships with 
non-traditional industries, academia, and others to accelerate 
innovative, game-changing materiel solutions. As we build the Army of 
2030, we are laying the foundation for the Army of 2040 and beyond.
    Long Range Precision Fires (LRPF). In fiscal year 2023 we will 
field the first batteries for hypersonic missiles and our ship-sinking 
Mid-Range Capability, in addition to fielding our Precision Strike 
Missile capability. Our Multi-Domain Task Forces (MDTFs) will provide 
Command and Control (C2) of long range precision fires and effects 
through intelligence, information, cyber, electronic warfare, and space 
capabilities. MDTFs will enable the Joint Force to penetrate enemy air 
defenses while establishing our own. We are standing up three new MDTFs 
in addition to the two currently supporting the Indo-Pacific and 
European theaters. Together, they will offer multiple options to 
combatant commanders and complicate decision-making for potential 
adversaries.
    Next Generation Combat Vehicles (NGCV). We have begun fielding the 
Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) as an adaptable and more 
survivable multi-variant vehicle. The AMPV replaces the M113 family of 
vehicles to provide ABCT combat support and enabler elements the 
capability to move at the pace of attack formations, as well as 
incorporate anticipated future technologies. We are testing prototypes 
of Mobile Protected Firepower, a lighter, more deployable armored 
combat vehicle that will provide large-caliber, long-range direct fires 
in support of Infantry BCTs. Robotic Combat Vehicles (RCVs) will 
provide unmanned platforms that will augment the mobility, lethality, 
survivability, and situational awareness of our formations. The RCVs 
will undergo increasingly rigorous experiments and capability 
demonstrations with a decision to procure by the end of fiscal year 
2024. Finally, the Army remains committed to developing the Optionally 
Manned Fighting Vehicle as the primary replacement for the Bradley 
Fighting Vehicle. We are currently in the initial design phase and plan 
to award up to three contracts for prototyping in fiscal year 2023.
    Future Vertical Lift (FVL). The Army remains committed to 
developing our Future Long Range Assault Aircraft (FLRAA) and Future 
Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft (FARA). We are scheduled to down select 
FLRAA to a single vendor in the coming months and are on track to have 
both systems begin fielding by fiscal year 2030. The Army starts 
fielding its family of Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) in fiscal year 
2024 to provide air-launched effects with an array of payloads and 
networks. This will provide the next generation of UAS platforms for 
multiple echelons: front-line troops, operational formations, and 
theater commands.
    The Network. Data is as important as ammunition on the future 
battlefield. That is why the network is the key to maintaining 
overmatch as a combined, joint force through decision dominance, the 
ability to make better decisions faster than our adversaries. It is not 
enough to develop new interoperable systems with open systems 
architecture. We must also develop a data fabric that facilitates 
information sharing more seamlessly across the Army, Joint Force, and 
our Allies and partners. Project Convergence is the Army's campaign of 
learning and annual series of experiments to inform development of 
Joint All-Domain Command and Control capabilities, Multi-Domain 
Operations (MDO), and the Joint Warfighting Concept. Last fall, our 
second iteration of Project Convergence (PC21) expanded to nearly 1,500 
participants from the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, and Space 
Force, becoming the largest Joint Force experiment in 15 years. This 
year's PC22 will incorporate key Allies--during the main experiment or 
for testing in our Joint Systems Integration Lab at Aberdeen Proving 
Ground--to address the challenges of operating as a combined, joint 
force across vast distances in the Indo-Pacific and Europe.
    The Army is building a more resilient network by modernizing Global 
Position System receivers to meet current and emerging threats with the 
help of advanced Assured Position, Navigation, and Timing systems. Our 
implementation of cloud and Artificial Intelligence (AI)-supported data 
analytics aims to ensure that data is shared and acted upon by those 
who need it. XVIII Airborne Corps, I Corps, U.S. Army Pacific 
(USARPAC), and U.S. Army Europe-Africa (USAREUR-AF) have already 
trained in cloud and data-enabled, mission-command exercises. Future 
experimentation and pilot exercises will incorporate commercial 
satellite services into cloud-enabled, command-post exercises.
    Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD). IAMD capabilities will 
protect combined, joint forces from adversary aircraft, missiles, and 
drones. The Army is fielding the IAMD Battle Command System while 
developing new radars to expand coverage and streamline sensor-to-
shooter linkages that will enable us to more efficiently target 
incoming threats. We are increasing Patriot Missile Segment Enhancement 
interceptor capacity and growing an additional Patriot battalion by 
fiscal year 2029 to enhance our defenses of theater base clusters. We 
are developing an Indirect Fire Protection Capability (IFPC) to protect 
forward C2 and logistics nodes. There are six IFPC battalions 
programmed to begin fielding to our MDTFs in fiscal year 2025. New 
formations like the Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (M-SHORAD) 
battalions provide mobile air defense for tactical maneuver formations. 
Fielding began for four divisional M-SHORAD battalions in fiscal year 
2020.
    The growing threat posed by UAS is emerging as the next big 
challenge for IAMD, with both defense and homeland security 
implications. We established the Joint C-sUAS Office (JCO) as the 
executive agent for Counter small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-sUAS) in 
February 2020. The JCO leads Department of Defense development of 
integrated plans, technologies, training concepts, and doctrine to 
focus resources and minimize redundancies across the department and 
interagency. Operationally, our combat training centers are preparing 
our combat formations to counter and defeat ubiquitous sUAS threats, 
and our budget includes funding to field C-sUAS sets for multiple 
divisions.
    Soldier Lethality. The Army seeks continued congressional support 
for the rapid prototyping, development, and procurement of the Next 
Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW), Integrated Visual Augmentation System 
(IVAS), and the Synthetic Training Environment (STE), among others. In 
fiscal year 2023, the Army will equip the first unit with the NGSW, as 
well as its higher-caliber ammunition. Thanks to iterative soldier-to-
industry feedback, we will equip the first unit with initial IVAS 
prototypes by 4th Quarter, fiscal year 2022. The STE--which uses a 
combination of hardware and software to enable soldiers, units, and 
commands to train in virtual or constructive environments--is due to 
reach Initial Operational Capability in the 4th Quarter, fiscal year 
2023. An example of the payoff to the soldiers comes from the 82nd 
Airborne Division, which last August used One World Terrain to create a 
three-dimensional representation of HKIA that gave commanders on the 
ground the ability to identify massing crowds and emerging 
vulnerabilities.
    Organic Industrial Base (OIB) and Supply Chain Risk Management 
(SCRM). As the Army undergoes its greatest transformation in more than 
40 years, we have an opportunity to simultaneously review the entire 
OIB for modernization. This includes addressing facilities, equipment, 
people, information technology, cybersecurity, and energy requirements. 
Our support to Ukraine has reinforced that we need an OIB that can 
successfully meet current Army demands, while providing the 
capabilities and capacities to surge and sustain large scale combat 
operations. Our OIB modernization effort also has a resilience 
component, which seeks to reduce single points of failure in the supply 
system and decrease reliance on foreign supply chains and resources. In 
close consultation with and support from Congress, the Army is using a 
15-year phased approach to modernize the OIB for the 21st century 
through collaboration across the entire Army enterprise, coupled with 
industry engagements, while ensuring projects are tied directly to the 
Army's signature modernization efforts. The Army will also modernize 
facilities to upgrade the infrastructure to support the workload in our 
depots, arsenals, and ammunition plants.
    Managing supply chain risk requires a whole-of-government approach, 
and SCRM is integral to the Army's acquisition and sustainment 
processes. Managing supply chain risk early in a weapon system's life 
cycle is critical to ensuring affordability and mitigating risk before 
a weapon system is fielded. The Army has already begun using 
commercially available tools to assess and identify risk in our supply 
chains. The Army also recognizes and uses the authority granted by the 
President in the Defense Production Act. The Army will publish an SCRM 
policy in the 3rd Quarter of fiscal year 2022 and conduct a series of 
tests in December 2022 to apply the best supply chain risk tools and 
assess the skills, knowledge, and abilities needed to empower our 
logisticians and other personnel supporting supply chain activities.
    Modernizing the unit lifecycle model. Last October, the Army 
adopted its new unit lifecycle model, the Regionally Aligned Readiness 
and Modernization Model (ReARMM), and it is projected for Full 
Operational Capability by January 2023. This new model aims to 
harmonize historically conflicting Army priorities. ReARMM facilitates 
modernization by giving units dedicated windows to integrate new 
equipment, reorganize formations, and train on new doctrine. Adopting 
this model is transitioning the Army from small, incremental, 
evolutionary modernization of platforms to large-step modernization of 
our formations across the Total Force. Regional alignment enables units 
to develop additional knowledge of the terrain, culture, and people 
where they are most likely to operate. Joint Force commanders also gain 
by leveraging habitual, trusted relationships between Army formations 
and Allies and partners. It takes care of people by reducing 
operational tempo and maximizing predictability and stability to 
commanders, soldiers, and families. Finally, units aligned to ReARMM 
recently validated the model by successfully participating in Operation 
Allies Welcome both in the United States and abroad without excess loss 
to readiness or the need for major process realignments.
             army campaigning in support of the joint force
    A key dimension of the Army's transformation is the need to 
strengthen and expand--where possible--our work with Allies and 
partners to actively campaign against coercive and revisionist Chinese 
and Russian activities. The Army's access, presence, and influence 
around the world supports dynamic, day-to-day military activities that 
bolster Allies and partners while frustrating our competitors. The 
Army's security assistance enterprise annually executes more than 6,100 
foreign military sales cases with 135 countries to build and strengthen 
Allied and partner capacity.
    Security Force Assistance Brigades - the leading edge of 
campaigning. Our six new Security Force Assistance Brigades (SFABs), 
the last of which activated in 2020, are aligned with each geographic 
combatant command and are strengthening relationships with Allies and 
partners through training, advising, and assistance. In AFRICOM over 
the past year, 2nd SFAB deployed 38 advisory teams to nine African 
countries, including Djibouti, Ghana, Kenya, Morocco, Niger, Senegal, 
Somalia, Tunisia, and Uganda, in addition to partnering with Senegalese 
units for a rotation at the Joint Readiness Training Center. In 
CENTCOM, 3rd SFAB has supported Operation Inherent Resolve, Operation 
Freedom's Sentinel, and the entire CENTCOM area of responsibility. 
After supporting the Afghan advise-and-assist program, 3rd SFAB was 
instrumental in coordinating the planned withdrawal from Afghanistan. 
In fiscal year 2022, up to 10 teams will deploy to the United Arab 
Emirates, Jordan, Kuwait, and Iraq to advise partner land forces on 
interoperability through persistent presence. In EUCOM during fiscal 
year 2021 and fiscal year 2022, 4th SFAB deployed advisory teams to 10 
nations in support of field exercises: Albania, Bosnia, Georgia, 
Germany, Hungary, Kosovo, Latvia, North Macedonia, Poland, and Romania. 
Additionally, 4th SFAB advisory teams are currently training with 
several multinational partners to assess and enhance their integration 
into forward-deployed NATO battlegroups. In INDOPACOM during fiscal 
year 2021 and fiscal year 2022, 5th SFAB has deployed 40 advisory teams 
to 14 nations, including: Bangladesh, Fiji, India, Indonesia, Japan, 
Malaysia, the Maldives, Mongolia, Nepal, Papua-New Guinea, Philippines, 
Republic of Korea, Singapore, and Thailand.
    USARPAC: Backbone of the Joint Force in the Indo-Pacific. The Army 
in the Indo-Pacific provides the Joint Force with decisive, integrated 
land power required to succeed in competition, rapidly transition and 
respond during crisis, and prevail in low-intensity and large-scale 
conflict. Exercising regularly with our Allies leads to enhanced 
capacity and greater interoperability in the event of a contingency. 
USARPAC's Operation PATHWAYS (OP) annually projects thousands of Army 
forces and equipment sets into the region to execute a series of 
international exercises that strengthen Joint Force integration and 
promote interoperability with Allies and partners. It also allows 
USARPAC, as the Theater Army, to prepare, rehearse, and validate 
training for strategic movement, operational maneuver, and tactical 
employment of land forces across extended distances west of the 
International Date Line.
    The Army continues to signal its deep commitment to the Indo-
Pacific through the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI). For fiscal 
year 2023, the Army has committed $1.4 billion of investments and 
activities that support the tenets of PDI. The Army is leveraging PDI 
to improve forward posture inside the first and second island chains, 
increase conventional deterrence, and support and enable the Joint 
Force. The Army is also developing the intellectual, conceptual, and 
technical tools necessary to guide our transition to an MDO-capable 
force with an emphasis on the Indo-Pacific.
    USAREUR-AF: Tip of the spear in Europe. USAREUR-AF's role in the 
midst of Europe's most significant military crisis in a generation 
demonstrates how European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) investments built 
U.S. Army muscles to rapidly flow forces into Europe and coordinate 
NATO's defense. Thanks to the support of Congress, the initiative 
supports five lines of effort: Increased Presence; Exercises and 
Training; Enhanced Prepositioning; Improved Infrastructure; and 
Building Partnership Capacity. Total Army EDI funding in fiscal year 
2022 was $2.4 billion.
    The Army supports increased presence to EUCOM through the rotation 
of a Division Headquarters Forward, an ABCT, and other enablers. This 
force package ensures a U.S. presence across Eastern Europe, including 
the Baltic States, Poland, Romania and Bulgaria. USAREUR-AF's premier 
exercise series in Europe-- DEFENDER--continues to enhance the capacity 
and interoperability of Allies and partners to deter adversaries, 
transform operational mission commands, build readiness, and strengthen 
the NATO Alliance. In 2021, DEFENDER integrated approximately 28,000 
multinational forces from 26 nations to conduct near-simultaneous 
operations across more than 30 training areas in 12 countries.
    Through EDI, the Army continues building a division-sized set of 
prepositioned equipment, with corps-level enablers, that will contain 
two ABCTs, two fires brigades, and air defense, engineer, movement 
control, sustainment, and medical units. Additionally, EDI funding 
diversifies capabilities by providing access to Army National Guard and 
Army Reserve units for NATO training objectives. The fiscal year 2022 
EDI budget supports an average strength of 9,450 Army Compo 1, 2, and 3 
personnel deployed in the EUCOM theater. The Army also funds facility 
improvements for Joint Reception, Staging, Onward-movement and 
Integration, as well as Mission Partner Environment network enclaves, 
including in the Baltics and Eastern Europe.
   building enduring advantages by investing in people and resilience
    People are our greatest strength and most important weapon system, 
including soldiers across the Active Army, Guard, and Reserve, their 
families, our Army civilians, and our soldiers for life--our veterans 
and retirees. We ask much of our people, and taking care of them is 
both a sacred obligation and essential to sustaining the All-Volunteer 
Force. Prioritizing people means modernizing our talent management 
systems, taking care of families through our quality of life 
initiatives, and most importantly, building cohesive teams that are 
highly trained, disciplined, and fit, where everyone is treated with 
dignity and respect, and that are ready to fight and win.
    Recruiting high-quality talent. The All-Volunteer Force is in a 
competition for talent, and the Army is strategically adapting the way 
it recruits and retains talent to reflect the Nation. We have 
established an Army Recruiting Tiger Team to holistically assess the 
Army's recruiting and accessions enterprise. COVID-19 impacted 
recruiting operations at all levels and across all Services, with a 
high percentage of high schools and colleges limiting in-person access 
from March 2020 through March 2022. As pandemic conditions improve, the 
Army is getting its recruiters back into America's high schools, 
colleges, and communities. As of April 2022, the Army has 1,721 Junior 
Reserve Officer Training Corps (JROTC) programs across the country, 
whose purpose is to instill in high school students the value of 
citizenship, service to country, personal responsibility, and a sense 
of accomplishment. Thanks to congressional support, the Army is 
strategically growing this powerful youth program to reach new 
communities and better connect America to its Army. In fiscal year 
2022, the Army expanded JROTC to 25 new schools in New Jersey, 
Pennsylvania, New York, Kansas, Illinois, Missouri, District of 
Columbia, Ohio, Nevada, California, Washington, Alabama, Georgia, and 
Texas.
    The Army is using improved analytics to more precisely tailor 
incentives and place recruiters. The Army appreciates congressional 
efforts to sustain military service as a competitive choice by ensuring 
their earnings are at the top of the 80th-percentile with comparable 
civilians, and higher percentiles for junior soldiers and junior 
officers. The Army is strategically deploying recruiters to communities 
across the country based on demographics, ethnicity, race, and gender. 
The Army is working with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Personnel & Readiness to improve how it tailors career options and 
incentives to increase new-recruit job satisfaction. The Army is also 
allowing recruits to choose from select installations as their duty 
station of choice. Over 2,000 enlistees have taken advantage of this 
benefit in fiscal year 2022. The Army is also on track to meet its 
directed level of 5,800 officer commissions while increasing diversity 
representation within the combat arms branches (25 percent in fiscal 
year 2021 to 27 percent in fiscal year 2022). While these immediate 
efforts are having a positive impact on current accessions, we continue 
to adapt our recruiting strategy to posture for emerging societal, 
demographic, and geographical shifts.
    Developing tech talent in the ranks. The Army knows that it must 
develop new talents within its ranks so soldiers can thrive in a 
Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics-saturated operating 
environment. The Army has implemented eight of the nine authorities 
(Sec. 501-506, 513, 518) granted in the fiscal year 2019 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). These authorities allow expansion of 
opportunities to increase the talent pool and fill critical shortages 
in technical fields based on unit demand signals. The Army's Cyber 
branch is a dynamic effort that is having success attracting highly-
talented soldiers (their average vocational test scores are top-tier 
and 25 percent have a bachelor's degree) and officers from top-rated 
universities. The Army is also using direct commissions for specific 
technical talents, as well as incentive pay and bonuses to retain high-
value talent. In fiscal year 2020-2021, Army Futures Command (AFC) 
began piloting AI and Agile Software Development Workforce initiatives 
within the AI Integration Center and Army Software Factory, where 
cohorts develop software and data science-enabled solutions to address 
problems sourced from across the Army. The Army Reserve's 75th 
Innovation Command is AFC's link to unique expertise in the private 
sector, facilitating a diverse tech-talent pipeline that is 
instrumental to the Army Software Factory's success.
    Modern talent management systems to satisfy and retain talent. The 
Army has several initiatives underway to give soldiers and officers 
enhanced flexibility to shape their careers. With the Assignment 
Interactive Module (AIM) for officers, and now Assignments 
Satisfactions Key-Enlisted Module (ASK-EM) for Non-Commissioned 
Officers (NCOs), the Army has created an assignment process and 
marketplace which empowers officers and NCOs to make informed 
preferences. From a talent management perspective, AIM and ASK-EM help 
the Army get the right people in the right places through algorithmic 
matching and market clearing for greater assignment satisfaction. 
Additionally, the Army is creating more options for Regular Army 
warrant officers and officers to continue service in the Army Reserve. 
The Army is also exercising officer options for brevet promotions to 
fill critical requirements, as well as options to compete for promotion 
and command.
    Data system modernization is as critical for effective talent 
management as it is for successful combat operations. The Integrated 
Personnel and Pay System-Army (IPPS-A) is the Army's flagship Human 
Resources (HR) modernization effort, and will be implemented across the 
Active Duty, Army Reserve, and National Guard by the end of 2022. IPPS-
A delivers a secure, comprehensive, and data-rich HR talent management 
system that consolidates the systems previously required by separate 
components, as well as giving transparency to soldiers right from their 
mobile device.
    Quality Infrastructure for taking care of our soldiers. Providing 
quality housing, barracks, childcare, and services for our soldiers and 
their families is a key factor for retaining talent. The Army is 
committed to sustaining quality housing conditions. Residential 
Community Initiative (RCI) companies are planning to invest $3 billion 
in housing over the next 10 years. Seventy-five percent of RCI housing 
are new builds, major, or medium renovations. Seventy-two percent of 
government-owned Army Family Housing (94 percent of which is overseas) 
is rated Q1 (good) or Q2 (adequate), while the Army has programmed $1.5 
billion in family housing construction and maintenance over the fiscal 
year 2023-2027 period to improve its inventory. Seventy-five percent of 
Army barracks are rated in good or adequate condition as well, with 
$4.2 billion programmed for fiscal year 2023 to 2027 to improve 
conditions for unaccompanied soldiers.
    Taking care of our families--and taking care of our children, 
especially-- increases the readiness of our force. The Army is 
addressing access to childcare by increasing and sustaining childcare 
infrastructure, recruiting and retaining quality childcare staff, 
incentivizing Family Child Care, providing Army Fee Assistance, and 
exploring new initiatives and partnerships. Childcare staffing 
continues to be a challenge across the country. In June 2021, the Army 
increased compensation for direct care staff and we continue to monitor 
the childcare labor market accordingly.
    Positive command climates--an essential component of cohesive 
teams. Positive command climates at scale are the foundation of a 
combat-effective Army, and positive command climates begin with good 
leadership. Selection for battalion and brigade command are two of the 
most important personnel decisions the Army makes, and the Army 
continues to expand its generational change to the way it selects these 
leaders. The Army started its Battalion Command Assessment Program in 
January 2020, which is designed to assess a candidate's cognitive, 
psychometric, physical, and communication attributes, culminating in a 
double-blind interview with a panel of senior Army leaders. Over the 
last two years, the Army has expanded its Colonel Command Assessment 
Program to assess potential leaders for O-6/GS-15 commands as well. 
Since 2020, the two command assessment programs have assessed over 
3,400 candidates. Now the Army is expanding the program to the NCO 
corps, launching a Sergeant Major Assessment Program to assess the 
readiness of brigade command sergeant major candidates to lead and 
coach the junior NCOs and soldiers in their formations.
    Positive command climates are also built on infusing professional 
development across the ranks. In the last few years, the Army has 
instituted Project Athena at resident professional military education 
courses for officers, warrant officers, NCOs, and civilians. Project 
Athena provides rising leaders with assessments, feedback, and 
development resources to turn insights into action. To date, these 
rising leaders have completed over 161,000 assessments. Expansion to 
Army Reserve and National Guard resident courses is slated for fiscal 
year 2023 to 2024. The Army has also fielded a standardized Individual 
Development Plan for people to map their personal and professional 
goals, supported by an Interactive Leader Development Guide to aid an 
individual's self-assessment and development. To improve our company 
commanders' doctrinal fluency, technical knowledge, and leadership 
skills for MDO, the Army has undertaken the most significant redesign 
of its Captains Career Course since 2005.
    The Army is also exploring ways to better assess command climates. 
The Army tested a comprehensive organizational climate assessment 
through the deployment of a Cohesion Assessment Team (CAT) and, based 
on the results, will institutionalize the capability no later than 
January 2023. CATs use survey results, focus groups, leader interviews, 
and observations to provide commanders better knowledge of the 
organizational climate of their units. In FY 2021, CATs supported five 
brigades. Future assessments will be based on institutional metrics to 
identify units that could benefit from expert input on soldier programs 
and unit climate. The Army is also using a new Counseling Enhancement 
Tool (CET) for developmental counseling sessions. The CET assists 
junior leaders and soldiers by requiring them to reflect on past 
performance before a formal dialogue, and providing guidance for 
interactive, collaborative, and meaningful discussions.
    Reducing harmful behaviors to cultivate healthier soldiers. The 
Army is placing greater emphasis on finding ways to prevent harmful 
behaviors and generate healthier, more resilient soldiers. Prevention 
begins with equipping leaders with better visibility tools to monitor 
and shape soldier health and resilience. The Army is developing 
individual and unit assessment tools such as Azimuth Check, Behavioral 
Health Pulse surveys, and Commander's Risk Reduction Toolkit to provide 
a more holistic and comprehensive picture of both individual soldier 
and unit-risk history.
    From prevention to response, the Army is fully committed to 
implementing the Independent Review Commission on Sexual Assault in the 
Military's recommendations, as directed by the Secretary of Defense. 
Building on existing expertise, the Army is developing a full-time 
prevention workforce to enable a holistic approach to preventing 
harmful behaviors. As part of a year-long pilot program, the Army 
launched Sexual Harassment/Assault Response Prevention Fusion 
Directorates across six installations and an Army Reserve command to 
integrate existing response functions and empower survivors with a 
multitude of resources. All reports of sexual assault and harassment 
will be thoroughly investigated and offenders will be held 
appropriately accountable based on the unique circumstances of each 
allegation. With support from experienced Sexual Assault Response 
Coordinators and Victim Advocates, all survivors of sexual assault and 
domestic violence will be fully supported through compassionate, 
quality care.
    Part of improving our response is augmenting our investigative and 
prosecutorial functions. In fiscal year 2022, the Criminal 
Investigative Division (CID) is adding investigative specialists at all 
field offices and aggressively exercising direct-hire authorities to 
add another 99 experienced criminal investigators. CID has realigned 
itself into geographic field offices, akin to the standard federal law 
enforcement model. Three highly-experienced civilian special agents-in-
charge have been selected to run the field offices at Fort Hood, Fort 
Carson, and Fort Bragg. The fiscal year 2022 NDAA instituted the most 
significant change to the Uniform Code of Military Justice in over 70 
years by requiring trained, experienced prosecutors, outside of the 
chain of command, to make prosecutorial decisions in cases of sexual 
misconduct, domestic violence, child abuse, and homicide. In accordance 
with these reforms, the Army is creating regional circuit Offices of 
the Special Trial Counsel, staffed by experienced criminal litigators, 
to integrate prosecution with victim services and provide legal 
expertise, longevity, transparency, and consistency across the force.
    Climate Resilience for a changing operational environment. In 
addition to investing in people, the Army is taking important steps in 
alignment with the NDS to build enduring advantage through climate 
resilience. The Army's core mission of fighting and winning our 
Nation's wars remains unchanged. Climate change, however, makes this 
mission more challenging not only for the Army, but the entire Joint 
Force. The Army must proactively adapt to climate change impacts and 
respond to climate risks to maintain its strategic edge in a climate 
change-impacted world. The Army Climate Strategy (ACS), which was 
released earlier this year, and the ACS Implementation Plan, scheduled 
to be released this summer, will synchronize our efforts to: increase 
capability; enhance installation resiliency; prepare for new hazards 
and operating environments; and modernize processes, standards, and 
infrastructure while reducing operational energy demands and greenhouse 
gas emissions.
    The Army requires resilient, efficient, and affordable installation 
energy and water infrastructure to support the Army's ability to 
deploy, fight, and win. Army installations provide secure and 
sustainable facilities and infrastructure that support commander 
priorities, enable missions, and maintain soldier and unit readiness. 
The Army must increase installation energy and water resilience to 
anticipate and withstand future threats, including climate change-
driven increases in extreme weather, and man-made kinetic and cyber 
threats that increase the risk of extended power and water disruptions.
    The ACS has set a goal to achieve a 50 percent reduction in Army 
net greenhouse gas pollution by 2030, shift to carbon pollution free 
electricity by 2030, and attain net-zero Army greenhouse gas emissions 
by 2050 in order to build a resilient and sustainable Army that can 
operate in all domains. The ACS drives increased resiliency and 
capabilities of the force. The Army is moving out to install a micro-
grid on every installation by 2035 to ensure installation resiliency as 
we face a contested homeland and an environment of increasingly severe 
weather. By 2040, we aim to achieve enough renewable energy generation 
and battery storage capacity to self-sustain critical missions across 
the Army. We are also on schedule to field an all-electric, light-duty, 
non-tactical vehicle fleet by 2027 and an all-electric, non-tactical 
vehicle fleet by 2035, reaping cost and resource efficiency, and adding 
to the resilience of Army transportation in spite of climate and energy 
challenges.
    The Army takes pride in stewardship of our lands and resources for 
the American people. The Army is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions 
to mitigate its contributions to climate change and act as good 
environmental stewards to further protect the American people. We are 
including climate change threat mitigation into all land management 
decisions and incorporating the latest climate and environmental 
science into stationing, construction, and fielding decisions.
                                closing
    ``This We'll Defend'' has been the proud motto of the U.S. Army 
since 1775. It captures the resolve, resilience, and readiness of 
generations of American soldiers and citizens who have answered the 
Nation's call and picked up arms in her defense. Today is no different. 
When the Nation calls, we send the Army we have--and the Army we have 
is the world's greatest fighting force. With timely, adequate, 
predictable, and sustained funding, we will remain ready to fight and 
win our Nation's wars as a member of the Joint Force, reassure our 
Allies and partners, take care of our people, and pursue our greatest 
transformation in over 40 years.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General McConville.
    Secretary Wormuth, could you elaborate on the specific 
investments and capabilities in this budget that supports the 
2022 National Defense Strategy?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Chairman. As I said, we have 
about $35 billion for modernization in this budget, and that is 
really focused on each of our six major modernization 
portfolios, whether it is Long Range Precision Fires, air and 
missile defenses, next-generation combat vehicles, Future 
Vertical Lift. All of those new systems will contribute to us 
being able to continue to field combat-credible forces, which 
are core to integrated deterrence, which is one of the major 
lines of effort in the National Defense Strategy.
    We also have considerable, billions of dollars associated, 
obviously, with operations and maintenance, and that supports 
our ability to campaign day-to-day to be able to compete 
against Russia and China. So for example, the budget supports 
the operations that are underway right now. You know, again, as 
General McConville and I mentioned, the tens of thousands of 
Army soldiers who are in Europe right now, for example, or our 
forces that are operating in the Indo-Pacific through the 
Operation Pacific Pathways series of exercises.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Madam Secretary, and General 
McConville, in producing these capabilities I know you have got 
an eye on the Joint Force because the battles of the future, as 
in mostly in the past, will be fought not just by the Army but 
by the Joint Force. Can you tell us how you are developing 
capabilities that benefit the Joint Force?
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. I think it starts with a 
concept that we are all developing, a joint warfighting 
concept. The enabler of that is what we call the Joint All 
Command and Control System. I add a C to it because I think are 
going to find combined, and what that allows us to do is to 
move data and communications very, very quickly between every 
sensor and shooter on the battlefield. By being able to do that 
we provide a much more lethal force on the joint side, and then 
as the Secretary mentioned, the Army does logistics. We do that 
very, very well. We are providing long-range precision fires. 
We are providing air and missile defense. All these 
capabilities work to support the Joint Force in whatever 
theater that we end up fighting.
    Chairman Reed. You indicated in your response that the 
first sort of major objective would be fully integrated and 
fully secure communications. What is your sense in terms of how 
far we are away from that objective?
    General McConville. Well I think we are making a lot of 
progress, Senator. We have conducted a thing we call Project 
Convergence, and we have been doing it over the last 3 years. 
The first time we did it we brought the Army out there and we 
worked our systems back and forth. We just finished one with 
the Joint Force and have had success, and this year coming up 
we will bring out some of our allies and partners to do that.
    But we also stood up a Joint Systems Integration Laboratory 
up at Aberdeen, and what that is, we bring in all the different 
systems that we use to communicate and make sure they could 
communicate before we take them out in the desert in some 
extreme conditions, and we have found that to be very 
successful.
    Chairman Reed. Very good, and Secretary Wormuth, I have a 
short bit of time left, but we had an opportunity to discuss, 
and I think Senator Inhofe was also interested in the issue of 
recruiting in a very complicated world. The number of qualified 
individuals continues to shrink. But what else is happening is 
that it is becoming somewhat insular. I think General 
McConville indicated that somewhere close to 80 percent of 
recruits come from military families, and if you look at the 
geographic distribution it is moving away from a more national 
focus, certainly as it was under the draft, to more regional, 
the South and West.
    So could you comment briefly on that? I think my colleague 
will probably pursue it also.
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator. It is absolutely true that 
a large number of young Americans that come into the Army today 
come from families that have served in the military. So I think 
one of the things we have got to do is find a way to help all 
young Americans understand all of the great opportunities that 
they can have in the Army and all of the things that the Army 
will enable them to do.
    So we are working hard, for example, on our marketing 
efforts, to really try to reach out to as many Americans as 
possible and to help them understand what the Army is about. We 
are also looking at things like our Junior ROTC programs, for 
example, which also expose young kids to the Army, and we may 
look at expanding those programs, for example.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, and thank you both 
again for your service, and please give our congratulations to 
those who serve with you.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I always like to 
start off when we have General McConville here with an update 
on his three kids. I can remember when they were all three 
captains. Now they are moving up but still very active. What is 
going on there?
    General McConville. Well, they are very proud to serve. 
They are serving around the world in Special Operations Forces 
and I am very, very proud of what they are doing. I also have a 
son-in-law that is serving too. So we are trying to get this 
recruiting effort going.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes. That is good. I know how proud you 
are.
    Chairman Reed. Ask him about Patton.
    Senator Inhofe. Oh yeah, and Patton. Do not forget.
    General McConville. Well, I am very proud to have our first 
grandson. His name is Patton James Nancer, and he is 6 months 
old, and we are real proud of him. He has already got a hall 
named after him over at Fort Myer, Patton Hall.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. That is great. Well, as noted in my 
opening remarks the Army unfunded priorities total $5.1 
billion, and I guess the first question I would ask you would 
be is everything on your list executable at this time?
    General McConville. Yes it is, Senator.
    Senator Inhofe. As I highlighted in my opening statement it 
is my understanding that the Army's reduced end strength of the 
473, that was talked about by both of you before, but it is 
driven by recruiting challenges. I know that you have already 
talked about that a little bit, but it is something that is 
more serious than any recruiting challenges that I have 
experienced in the years that I have been here.
    In 2018, and General Milley testified before this committee 
that we are shooting to get north of 500,000, which was 
recommended in this document. That is in the regular Army, and 
last year you said, and this is a quote from you, you said, ``I 
think the regular Army should be somewhere around 540,000 to 
550,000.'' Despite the difficulty we are having right now, the 
biggest problem we are having, I think, is recruiting at this 
time. We talked about that a couple of days in my office, and 
this is still, I believe, the most serious problem.
    In spite of the difficulty in recruiting the Army is facing 
right now, that we discussed just a couple of days ago, is it 
still your best military judgment that we require an army 
greater than 500,000?
    General McConville. Senator, I think we need a bigger Army. 
I stand by the comments I made before.
    Senator Inhofe. I say that knowing full well the recruiting 
problem. Everything that you are trying and the efforts there, 
I understand that. But where does that leave us?
    General McConville. Well, I also think that quality is more 
important than quantity, and what we have to do to get after 
this is, as the Senator said, right now 83 percent of the young 
men and women that are coming into the Army are coming from 
military family members. It is nice that is a military family 
business. We need this to be an American family business. We 
need to attract others. We need to expose others to the 
benefits of serving their country, and, you know, again, what 
we are finding right now is 23 percent of Americans are 
qualified to serve in the military.
    So we have got to do some work in our high schools and we 
have to do some work in preparing young men and women to come, 
because I do not think there is any better way to serve, and I 
think we need to have a call to service.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay, and I agree with that.
    Madam Secretary, I know my time is expiring but the 
conflict in Ukraine has revealed serious munitions production 
challenges that we have at this time, and I know that there is 
another member that is going to ask you about that. But just as 
an overview, what should be done to fix what I consider to be 
the second most urgent problem that we are dealing with right 
now?
    Secretary Wormuth. Well, Senator, I think what we need to 
do is work closely with the defense industry to look at how we 
can help them address some of the supply chain challenges that 
they are having, for example. The money that Congress, that you 
all providing through the supplemental will help us do that, in 
terms of accelerating some of those production lines. The Army 
has actually invested considerably more in ammunition in its 
budgets in the last couple of years, recognizing the 
criticality of the munitions issue.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. Well you are going to have an 
opportunity to expand more on this urgent problem.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you Secretary Wormuth and 
General McConville for your service to the country and for 
being here this morning.
    I want to begin with a real concern I have, because looking 
at the 2023 budget request I noted that it does not include any 
funding, zero funding, to continue procurement of the Enhanced 
Night Vision Goggle-Binocular, or ENVG-B. I am concerned that 
this decision not only harms our soldiers by limiting access to 
more advanced night vision systems but also affects our 
nation's already limited night vision manufacturing industrial 
base. In fact, the Army's own unfunded priority list notes 
that, and I quote, ``A lack of funding decreases soldiers' 
survivability'' and, quote, ``places the manufacturer at risk 
of closing the production line,'' end quote.
    So can you talk about how you justify that decision to cut 
a program that the Army's own unfunded priority list says will 
affect soldiers' survivability? I think that is probably for 
you, Madam Secretary.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, we had made the judgment, I 
believe, and I think General McConville can speak to this as 
well because it is on his UPL, that we had procured the 
quantities of night vision goggles that we thought would meet 
our requirements. Again, a lot of what we are trying to do with 
the resources that we have is balance between making sure that 
we continue to have resources to invest in the new 
modernization programs as well as continue to invest in some of 
the enduring systems that we have. So that is always a bit of a 
tightrope for us, and those dials are ones that we may be able 
to adjust through things like items that are on the unfunded 
priorities list.
    Senator Shaheen. But just last month an audit by the DOD 
inspector general found that the Army is at risk of wasting up 
to $21.88 billion in taxpayer funds to field a system that 
soldiers may not want to use or use as intended. I understand 
the need to continue development, and the IVAS [Internet Value-
Added Service] system is what appears to be the future, but I 
also understood that the RDT&E for that had not been adequately 
completed. So we are investing in a system that we are not sure 
is going to work, and we are not sure we have enough of the old 
system or the current system to address the soldiers' needs. So 
I am not convinced on your argument.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, on IVAS [Internet Value-Added 
Service], we have worked very closely with our soldiers through 
the soldier-centered design process to get their feedback all 
along the way, and, we did not fully agree with some of the GAO 
[Government Accountability Office] findings. We have a major 
operational test with IVAS that is starting this month and that 
will continue through June, and we will be looking carefully at 
those results to inform ultimately where we go with IVAS.
    But I feel pretty comfortable with where that program is. 
We have been working very closely with Microsoft, and I think 
that program is on track and that we have actually gotten quite 
a bit of good feedback from soldiers as we have worked to 
develop IVAS.
    Senator Shaheen. So you do not agree with the inspector 
general's report?
    Secretary Wormuth. We did not particularly agree with the 
characterization that soldiers were not going to use IVAS 
ultimately. I mean, again, I think one of the things the Army 
has done very well is to try to have a more soldier-centered 
design process across the board and to allow us to get that 
kind of feedback. So I think it was just a bit of an over-
characterization by the inspector general on that particular 
point.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I look forward to hearing how that 
RDT&E goes because I am very concerned that we are going to 
lose our manufacturing base for the ENVG-B and that is going to 
put soldiers at risk.
    I want to switch to childcare because Secretary Hicks and 
General McConville, you both talked about the importance of 
taking care of our troops. And as we think about the 
recruitment and retention challenges that we have in the Army 
it reminds me of an effort that I spearheaded when I was 
governor in New Hampshire in the 1990s to try and expand access 
to early childhood education and childcare. One of the models 
that we looked at was the Department of Defense and what our 
military was doing, for the very reason that you talked about, 
that so many of our soldiers come from military families, and 
investing in childcare is a way to invest in those soldiers 
from the earliest years.
    So can you talk about why that is so important? I raise it 
because we are pursuing an interesting approach in New 
Hampshire, where the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is partnering 
with the New Hampshire National Guard to use funding to 
construct a new child development center.
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. You know, as I mentioned, 
we recruit soldiers but we retain families, and when we take a 
look at, I think, what makes our Army the greatest Army in the 
world it is our noncommissioned officers, and 89 percent of our 
leaders, basically sergeant and above, have families, and if we 
want to compete for the best we have got to take care of their 
families.
    As you know, right now our child development centers are 
really, standard-wise, the best in the country as far as 
standards, but we do not have enough. We are trying to get 
more. We are trying to build more. We are trying to take care 
of the ones we have. We are also putting a lot of bonuses in 
place to get the right caretakers, because in order for us to 
either provide fee assistance or help with the child 
development centers, the people we are going to hire have to 
meet the standards. Again, we want quality people taking care 
of our kids, and to me it is extremely important.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I appreciate the emphasis. 
Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary and 
General, welcome.
    Madam Secretary, the new National Defense Strategy clearly 
states that China is the pacing threat. How is the Army using 
this budget to develop and employ capabilities towards the 
Joint Force effort in INDOPACOM [United States Indo-Pacific 
Command]?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Fischer, I would first highlight 
our Long Range Precision Fires investment, particularly the 
Long-Range Hypersonic Missile, which we will have our first 
battery in fiscal year 2023. You know, given the long distances 
in INDOPACOM I think that system will be particularly relevant. 
But the midrange capability that we are developing with the 
Navy I think is also very relevant for potential conflict in 
INDOPACOM.
    We are also investing quite a bit in upgrading our air and 
missile defense systems, making sure that we are with our 
systems such as the IFPC , which is designed to try to counter 
cruise missiles as well as other air threats. You know, given 
the missile numbers that China has, for example, air and 
missile defenses are going to be very important if there were a 
conflict in the Indo-Pacific, and that is another area where I 
think the Army is very relevant.
    Senator Fischer. Do you believe that that should also 
include more capable helicopters and vehicles as well, as part 
of that long list?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, exactly. I mean, both FARA [Future 
Attack Reconnaissance Aircraft] and FLRAA will be significant 
upgrades in terms of speed, range, survivability, and we are 
going to need, I think, to continue to be able to transport our 
forces, to be able to have airborne assault forces. So we 
continue to fully fund both of those efforts.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General, how will the Army 
adjust the way it trains and equips soldiers to better prepare 
for conflict in a contested environment where the adversary has 
advanced ISR [intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance] 
and other high-end capabilities?
    General McConville. Senator, we realize that we are at an 
inflection point right now. The last 20 years we have been 
doing what we call counter-insurgency, irregular warfare, 
counterterrorism. So we have taken our combat training centers, 
and our soldiers are going through very aggressive and rigorous 
training that fights what we would call a high-end enemy that 
has unmanned aerial systems, that has the ability to jam their 
weapon systems and their navigation systems, and has the 
ability to attack their command post, and has the ability to 
attack their logistics.
    So we are giving them a scrimmage, if you will, that will 
have them ready for that type of combat in the future.
    Senator Fischer. Do you also conduct those exercises where 
communications are denied or GPS is denied? Do you conduct 
those with allies or with other services, or do you believe it 
is important just to focus entirely on the Army at this point?
    General McConville. No, I think it is important we work. We 
are going to fight as a Joint Force, we train as a Joint Force, 
and we often bring our allies and partners to the combat 
training center, which is really the gold standard of how we 
train in a high-intensity environment. Everyone is very, very 
aware of that, and we are learning a lot of lessons from 
Ukraine.
    Senator Fischer. The National Defense Strategy highlights 
both the importance of fortifying our network with our allies 
and our partners and using that campaigning to strengthen 
deterrence. Can you discuss some of the insights that you have 
gained from those recent exercises and how the military-to-
military exercises are going to be, I think, more important in 
the Pacific, just because of the geographic expanse and being 
able to cover the region.
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. What we are believers in 
is you never want to be what I would call a one-option 
commander. If you only have one radio net, they can jam that 
and take that away from you. So as we start to look at what we 
are trying to do, we are looking at like data fabrics where 
there are multiple ways of moving communications. There are 
multiple ways of getting navigation information. So if your 
adversary shuts down one capability you have another option 
that you can quickly move to. We use a term we call PACE. We 
have a Primary Alternate Contingency and Emergency type 
communications ability. We train our troops on that so if 
something goes wrong they can immediately move to another 
course of action.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Let me recognize Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First I want to 
compliment, General, you and the Secretary, but also the 
thousands of people that work with and for you for the 
logistics work that has gone on with Ukraine. It has been an 
absolute marvel of logistics in terms of time, speed, accuracy. 
What has been accomplished, people will be writing books about 
this, and I want to please convey the thanks of this committee 
for that work.
    Following up, you mentioned one phrase I just picked up in 
your answer to Senator Fischer, ``lessons from Ukraine.'' Could 
you expand on that? What have we learned so far, both about the 
failures and the weaknesses of the Russian Army but also about 
the successes of the Ukrainians, and which systems have been 
most important, which have worked best? Tell me what we are 
learning thus far from what is going on.
    General McConville. I think a couple of things. You know, 
the plan that initially the Russians had was very complex, 
which takes highly trained disciplined and fit soldiers in 
unison to execute, and as we saw they did not have that 
capability. So when we talk about having quality soldiers we 
think that is really important. They do not have the 
noncommissioned officer corps, the junior leaders that are used 
to taking mission command-type orders and operating in a 
contested environment.
    You mentioned logistics. The old adage is that 
professionals study logistics and amateurs study tactics 
because if you are going to prosecute a very complex mission 
like that you have to have logistics. If you are going to do 
complex operations, like airborne operations, air assault 
operations, or amphibious operations, those are very, very 
complex to undertake, and we can look at other parts of the 
world where they may be required.
    You can take a look at some of the systems, the appropriate 
air and missile defense systems that the Secretary mentioned, 
and one of the other systems we are developing, which is 
midrange capability that allows you to sink ships. We saw that 
happen with the Ukrainians. All those tools come together to 
give you some of the things you need.
    I would just add, on the Ukrainian side, leadership matter. 
You see it at the top. The prime minister stayed there and led 
his troops, if you will. All the able-bodied people stayed to 
defend their country. They have the capability, probably not as 
much. They have the capacity, probably not as much as Russia, 
but they have got this thing called will, and I talk about 
building cohesive teams. That is what it is about. That is the 
difference that is happening in Ukraine, which different than 
some of the other places we have seen.
    Senator King. I think that is a good list and I am sure 
that list will grow as time goes on. It is an extraordinary 
opportunity to see what is actually occurring.
    I think you are right. I remember asking several months 
before the invasion, was Zelenskyy, Ghani or Churchill, and he 
certainly has turned out to be closer to Churchill, and I think 
that has made an enormous difference.
    Secretary Wormuth, on an entirely separate issue, I work 
with a lot of veterans in Maine, and one of the problems that 
keeps coming up is the weakness of the transition from Active 
Duty to veteran status, the handoff from the Defense Department 
to the VA. I believe, and I do not have the data in front of 
me, but that many of the veteran suicides take place in that 
relatively short period of time between Active Duty and 
civilian status.
    I believe that you should put as many resources, time, 
effort, and people into transition out as you do into 
recruiting in. Can you address that problem, because from 
everything I have learned on the ground in Maine this is a 
serious issue?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Senator, and yes, I think 
there is data that shows that that transition out of the 
service back into the civilian community can be a critical 
time. We do try to work very closely with the Department of 
Veterans Affairs to ensure that there is a warm handoff, and 
with the transition programs that we have for folks getting out 
of the Army we try to make sure that they have the resources to 
know what to expect, to be able to sort of link them to 
employment resources, and things like that.
    But I think that is something that we can continue to work 
on, and frankly, I have heard some folks say, ``The transition 
programs helped me learn how to tie a tie and to do a resume,'' 
but psychologically, making the adjustment to sort of going 
back into the civilian world is not something that I have heard 
sometimes people say that they get as much emphasis on. So I 
think that is an area we could work on.
    Senator King. I hope you will, and I hope you will not only 
commit to working on it but work on it in a systematic way, 
perhaps appoint a task force or some group whose responsibility 
it is to talk about and think about and work on this problem. 
Because, as you know, we have an epidemic of veteran suicide 
and suicide in the military. This is one place where I think we 
could make a difference. So thank you very much, and I hope you 
will follow up in an urgent way on this problem.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. I am disappointed and borderline appalled 
at the fiasco that the Army Combat Fitness Test has become. For 
years the Army said that you were going to have gender-neutral 
standards. You both sat at that table less than a year ago and 
testified that you would have gender-neutral standards. Yet, 
Ms. Wormuth, just few weeks ago you issued a new directive 
saying there would not, in fact, be gender-neutral standards. 
Has something changed about the nature of combat in the last 10 
months I am unaware of?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think when I was here for my 
confirmation hearing I said that I wanted to look at the data 
that the Army was developing.
    Senator Cotton. No, no, no, no, no. When you were here on 
June 15, 2021, I asked if you would have gender-neutral 
standards, and you said, ``We are continuing to look at how to 
finalize the design for the ACFT. We are continuing to have 
gender-neutral standards.'' I asked General McConville, ``Are 
you committed as well to maintaining gender neutrality on the 
test?'' General McConville said, ``I am.''
    What happened in the last 10 months?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Cotton, we looked at over 
630,000 diagnostic test scores. We looked at the results of the 
congressionally directed RAND study that was to give us 
recommendations and findings about what we should be looking 
for in designing a new fitness test. What we found was we 
wanted to make sure that we had a fitness test that was a 
general fitness test that would make sure that it would raise 
our overall level of fitness, be something that would help us 
develop a higher level of fitness, and we wanted to make sure 
that we did not unfairly have standards for a particular 
subgroup that people could not perform. We did not want to 
disadvantage any subgroups.
    When we looked at that data, what we found was there were 
subgroups that were disadvantaged. We looked at the 
recommendations from RAND, we looked at the data, and we found 
that the way to have a test that meets our objectives was to 
have age- and gender-normed tests.
    Senator Cotton. So that is exactly what the old Army 
Physical Fitness Test had, as well, and you have abandoned also 
any MOS-specific tests. An earlier version of this had heavy 
physical activity, significant physical activity, and moderate 
physical activity MOSs that had separate standards. Have you 
abandoned those as well?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army moved away from the MOS-
connected standards I think a couple of years ago, before I 
became Secretary. But, I would say that the new Army Combat 
Fitness Test is much more challenging than the Army Physical 
Fitness Test.
    Senator Cotton. No, it is not. It is not. The new standards 
are pathetic. They are absolutely pathetic. Here is what a 
female, age 17 to 21, has to do to qualify for any job, to 
include infantry and special forces--10 pushups, run two 
miles--let me put ``run'' is scare quotes as well. Make sure 
the record reflects I am doing air quotes around ``run''--in 23 
minutes and 22 seconds. The standards for men, age 17 to 21 are 
equally pathetic--10 pushups and a 22-minute run, in scare 
quotes again, ``run'' in 22 minutes. Under the old test, a 
female age 17 to 21 had to do 13 pushups. A man had to do 35 
pushups. A female had to run a two-mile run in 19 minutes and 
42 seconds. A man had to do it in 16 minutes and 36 seconds.
    Do you really think these new standards are adequate for 
the infantry and the special forces and artillery?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, one of the reasons the numbers 
you just quoted are the case is because the new test is a six-
event test as opposed to a three-event test.
    Senator Cotton. I am well aware of how many events there 
are. The standards for the other events are equally pathetic. 
They are equally pathetic.
    So it is a well-known fact that in certain MOSs, in the 
infantry, every unit I served in, every school I went to, a 60-
point minimum was not acceptable. If you wanted to be promoted 
or get awards or go to schools you had to get 90 points. Are 
you going to let subordinate commanders establish higher 
standards for their units?
    Secretary Wormuth. For things like the special forces there 
are absolutely additional physical fitness requirements.
    Senator Cotton. No. Are you going to let them say you have 
to have 90 points, not 60 points, to be in this unit?
    Secretary Wormuth. the ACFT [Army Combat Fitness Test] is 
our general fitness test.
    Senator Cotton. The answer is no. Your own frequently asked 
question says, ``Commanders cannot set physical standards for 
acceptance into or retention in a combat unit.''
    This is going to get people killed. What you need to do is 
have gender-specific and age-specific tests and MOS-specific 
tests. You do not need cyber specialists and cooks and nurses 
to meet the same standards as infantry and special forces, but 
in those units you need men and women alike to meet the same 
standards.
    Let me just read one quote here to you to finish up. 
``While it may be difficult for a 120-pound woman to lift or 
drag 250 pounds, the Army cannot artificially absolve women of 
that responsibility. It may still exist on the battlefield.'' 
The entire purpose of creating a gender-neutral test was to 
acknowledge the reality that each job has objective physical 
standards, to which all soldiers should be held, regardless of 
gender. The intent was not to ensure that women and men will 
have an equal likelihood of meeting those standards.'' Do you 
know who said that?
    Secretary Wormuth. No, I do not believe that I do.
    Senator Cotton. Captain Kristen Griest, the Army's first 
female infantry officer and one if its first Ranger School 
grads. She also said, ``It is wholly unethical to allow the 
standards of the nation's premier fighting units to degrade so 
badly.'' I agree. I am not going to let it stand.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General McConville, the conclusion of the conflict in 
Afghanistan demonstrated that we did not accurately assess the 
Afghan military's capabilities. The Army now has Security Force 
Assistance Brigades designed to train partner forces and 
accurately report their progress. Can you describe how the 
SFABs assess foreign forces and how are their assessments 
checked for accuracy by the DOD? More to the point, we 
understood, in Afghanistan, that there was a question about 
will to fight. They were very well trained but there was not 
necessarily a high regard for the Ghani government because of 
corruption. The question that should have been asked is will 
these Afghan forces, who are well trained, die for this 
particular government or would they rather hand over their 
weapons to the Taliban because they would rather not die and be 
under new leadership.
    So do we ask the type of political questions that that 
analysis would require to assess will to fight? With regard to 
Senator King's line of questioning, we learned in Ukraine that 
the Ukrainians did very much have a will to fight because their 
leader inspired that will by determination to stand his ground.
    So when we are making these assessments I understand our 
training is excellent and I understand you can train anyone to 
have full capability, but the will to fight is about much more. 
So have you changed how you make this assessment?
    General McConville. Well, Senator, we are certainly taking 
a look at that. You know, we had a better idea. First of all, 
having spent a lot of time in Afghanistan, when we were with 
the Afghans and we were accompanying and we were shohna ba 
shohna, shoulder to shoulder, fighting with the Afghans, the 
Afghans fought, and that is what tends to happen when you have 
cohesive units working together. As we brought down our forces 
and we were less and less with those who were on the leading 
edge, people will say they will fight and then you take a look 
at them, and we have given them the best equipment, much, much 
better than the Taliban had, we gave them the capacity, and 
really a much greater capacity than Taliban had.
    But there is something inside soldiers when they go to 
combat, and that is where leadership really matters, and it 
matters all the way up, because when people look up and they 
say, ``Am I willing to die for my country?'' that is hard to 
measure at times, and obviously in Afghanistan we did not 
measure that correctly. I am very, very impressed with what the 
Ukrainians are doing as far as the will to fight. As we talk to 
other allies and partners we hold up the example of what the 
Ukrainians have done as an example of what we should expect for 
those who are going to support.
    Senator Gillibrand. In November of 2021, the Army enacted 
Cyber Military Intelligence Group, which is designed to provide 
intelligence support to Army Cyber Command. Can you describe 
the mission, function, and personnel of this newly formed unit, 
and how would this unit operate in a large-scale conflict like 
the war in Ukraine?
    General McConville. I think, and as you know, the 
importance of our Cyber Command, I think we have the best in 
the world and the appropriate support. I was just down there 
for the change of command. What they are doing in support of 
Ukraine, their mission is extremely important. Not only 
protecting but also a defensive, offensive, and working in the 
intelligence community getting the information that we need to 
provide to our partners has been very, very helpful.
    Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Wormuth, the committee was 
briefed that services will be implementing the DOD's 
Independent Review Commission recommendations on sexual 
assault. Can you provide more detail on when you expect these 
recommendations to be implemented in the Army and how you will 
roll these recommendations out to your force to ensure 
servicemembers are sufficiently informed?
    Secretary Wormuth. Sure, Senator Gillibrand. We have been 
trying to, frankly, move out on those recommendations as 
quickly as we can. So for example, right now we are focused on 
developing a prevention workforce. That was one of the 
Independent Review Commission recommendations. So we are 
looking at exactly what that means in terms of the kind of 
people that we need to have, how many people we need to have, 
and where we can best use them; to what extent do we already 
have folks who work for the Army who perform duties that are 
related to preventing harmful behavior. So we are working on 
finalizing that plan.
    As I mentioned in my opening statement, we will be standing 
up the Office of Special Trial Counsel, which will report 
directly to me, in July. We have a promotion or a selection 
board to pick the individual who will be that special trial 
counsel. Then we have also started doing things like the Fusion 
Directorates for our SHARP program, that puts all of the 
resources for survivors in one place. I actually was able to 
visit one of the Fusion Directorates at Fort Sill in Oklahoma 
recently and was very impressed with what they are doing.
    So we are trying to move quickly and would be happy to come 
and talk with you and your staff in more detail, if you would 
like.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Let me now recognize 
Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Ernst. Yes. Thank you, Secretary Wormuth and 
General McConville, for appearing in front of our committee 
today.
    Chairman Reed. Excuse me, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Ernst. Oh, I am sorry.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Cramer.
    Senator Ernst. Oh, Cramer. Oh, excuse me. So sorry.
    Chairman Reed. That is my Rhode Island accent. I apologize.
    Senator Cramer. I was happy to yield and listen.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks, both of you, for being 
here and for your service.
    I have been struck by how many times you stated what I 
suppose is the obvious and yet it is inspirational to hear you 
say it many times. Both of you referencing the most important 
part of the Army force are the people, and you speak with great 
affection, passion, sincerity about it.
    Secretary Wormuth, you and I got to know each other a 
little bit earlier on, working with your team to fix this pay 
problem.
    Secretary Wormuth. Major Cimock [phonetic]. I remember it 
well.
    Senator Cramer. Yes, and General, you were very helpful as 
well. It highlighted a broken system.
    The new Integrated Personnel Pay System, which I became 
familiar with through that process, was supposed to fix this 
last year, but I am told it is still struggling to rollout 
properly. Can you just maybe give me an updated on that and 
tell us if there is anything we can do to help? When I look at 
the big employers in the world today, and obviously the 
military is one of those, and the Army specifically is one of 
those, but there are much bigger ones that do not seem to have 
these same sorts of problems.
    So maybe just give me an update on how it is rolling out 
and what we can expect.
    Secretary Wormuth. Sure, Senator Cramer. You know, we are 
working very hard on IPPS-A, which the National Guard is 
already able to use some of the features of that personnel 
system. We are working very hard to be able to roll out the 
next increment of IPPS-A, Release 3, hopefully later this fall. 
We feel like we will be on schedule for that, although frankly 
we are working very aggressively with the contractor to make 
sure that they are able to meet what we have asked them to do. 
That next release will bring out some of the talent management 
features, it will enable people to look at what assignments are 
available, and then it will be the next increment, as I 
understand it, that will really provide the pay transparency 
across all components.
    I know this is a system that is very important to the 
chief, so you may want to add something there.
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. Right now we have what we 
call an industrial age personnel management system. We treat 
everybody as interchangeable parts. We have three different 
personnel systems for our regular Army, our National Guard, and 
Reserve, and, quite frankly, it is no way to run a railroad. We 
need to have everyone on the same system. We need to be able to 
manage individuals so we do not manage everyone the same. We 
have tremendous talent in the Army that is masked by a person's 
grade and their MOS. Probably one of the best examples I could 
give you is we have a specialist, a medic specialist, an E-4 in 
the United States Army, that is at a software factory that 
codes at the PhD level. We would never know that unless we did 
a workaround.
    So we have got a lot of work to do in this, and as we 
manage the future and compete for talent we are going to have 
to manage soldiers' talents to get the best in the Army.
    Senator Cramer. You just outlined, I think, a great 
illustration of why it is so important. As we talk about 
modernization, and you are both very fluent on the importance 
of modernization, the priorities of modernization, it seems 
that this would be a really high priority, not as sexy looking, 
but when we are talking about challenges in recruitment, 
retainment, getting the best, all of that, yes, this would be a 
part of that.
    So I just want to tell you, I encourage you to stay at it. 
You have every incentive in the world to do that, but stay at 
it. Keep us informed. If there is anything we need to do from a 
policy standpoint, oversight standpoint, anything that helps 
you with the contractor or anyone else, please reach out. We 
want to keep the main thing the main thing, the first thing the 
first thing.
    Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Let me recognize Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, for testifying today.
    Secretary Wormuth, our military test ranges are the key to 
the Army's modernization, and Arizona test ranges such as Yuma 
Proving Ground provide foundational support for long-range 
fires, provides the ability for us to test counter unmanned 
aerial systems and Future Vertical Lift and cyber operations, 
to name just a few.
    Unfortunately, budget briefs often start with major weapon 
systems and go through a priority order with facilities often 
at the tail end. In order to maintain our competitive edge, 
particularly as we pivot to an era of great power competition, 
we need to continue investing in and prioritizing our military 
test ranges.
    So how does the fiscal year 2023 budget request address the 
importance of funding our test infrastructure and the workforce 
that supports it?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, as we pursue our six major 
modernization portfolios we are, at the same time, making sure 
that we look at things like what kinds of test ranges do we 
need for those new systems, from an RDT&E perspective. What are 
the implications of fielding those new systems for our 
maintenance facilities, for example, and motor pools? So we are 
trying to be very deliberate and comprehensive looking at 
making sure that we have the test ranges to support those new 
systems, and more broadly, we also have a 15-year organic 
industrial base plan that is looking at making sure that the 
Army's organic industrial base is also able to support those 
new systems.
    So we are trying to factor that in as we pursue our new 
weapon systems. I can just say, having been to Yuma Proving 
Group last fall, that is where Project Convergence 2021 
culminated. It underscored to me the importance of those kinds 
of test ranges.
    Senator Kelly. Yes, I was there as well----
    Secretary Wormuth. That is right. We sat right next to each 
other.
    Senator Kelly.--yep, for Project Convergence. I mean, that 
exercise, I think it particularly highlights the importance of 
the work that happens in test ranges across the country. I used 
to spend a lot of time on the test range not far from here, off 
of Naval Air Station Patuxent River. But like I said in my 
question, it is often like the end of the line as a priority 
for new systems, whether it is Theodolite radar systems control 
centers, it is often down the line. But it is so important for 
us to have the most modern fighting force in the world.
    Another question here about Fort Huachuca. You know, Fort 
Huachuca, in Southern Arizona, hosts one of the largest 
unmanned aerial vehicle training facilities in the world and 
supports operations for not only the Army but the Air Force, 
Marine Corps, and Customs and Border Protection. I understand 
that they are working to expand airspace in Southern Arizona to 
facilitate unmanned aerial systems and electronic warfare 
testing done at the Army's Electronic Proving Ground.
    In the past, my office has heard concerns that the Army is 
not adequately funding the overall budget for testing across 
the range complex, and specifically at EPG, the Electronic 
Proving Ground. Are you aware of efforts to expand the airspace 
at Fort Huachuca in order to support a greater range of 
testing, and if so, are you supportive of these efforts?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think we are supportive of 
those efforts, and certainly if there are issues that your 
staff has heard of we can look into those, because we are very 
concerned about UAS [Unmanned Aircraft System] threats are a 
major issue, and we need to also be able to build up our EW 
capabilities. So think generally those are areas that we 
support.
    Senator Kelly. Yes. Whether it is electronic warfare or 
artillery or air-to-air missile systems, you know, in the case 
of airplanes they get faster, our electronic warfare systems 
get more powerful. The stick gets longer on air-to-air missile 
systems. What that means is, whether it is the test pilot or 
the guys in the Army running these tests, is that, in essence, 
the range just feels like it is getting smaller all the time, 
as these systems get more capable. So we have to look for 
opportunities to expand ranges, not only for testing but also 
for operations as well.
    Thank you, and, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Let me recognize Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Good morning. General, Stryker vehicles 
are on your unfunded priority list. Can you take a moment and 
explain why you prioritized these tanks?
    General McConville. What I am trying to do, Senator, right 
now is produce the Army with the resources we get, and that is 
what is in the budget request. But also I have a requirement to 
list, if there was additional funding, what they would be, and 
those are the priorities that were unfunded and that is why 
they are on the list. If you take a look at some of the things 
on the list, there are some people things we want to do. You 
know, we are very concerned about where our soldiers are living 
and housing.
    On this budget particularly there is cost to complete. I 
think there are 25 projects on that UPL list that we need 
addition money because costs have risen, to finish those 
projects that are authorized and appropriated for.
    Then some of the things are things that changed. As we go 
through, we are looking at Stingers right now are on the UPL 
because we did not anticipate giving a whole bunch of those 
away like we have, and we also want to, if they are going to be 
used in the future, rather than building old stuff we would 
rather upgrade the systems we have if we are going to replenish 
them.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. A few weeks ago President Biden 
pledged that we would spend billions of dollars to make every 
military vehicle climate friendly. I find this ironic 
considering the President's 2023 Budget requests only 102 
Strykers, 67 below the Army's established baseline for funding 
half a brigade. Do you have any comments on that?
    General McConville. Well, Senator, it gets back to the 
tradeoffs that we make when we are producing the budget. You 
know, we want to fund modernization, and when we look at the 
Strykers and we look at the Abrams and we look at the Bradleys, 
and we look at the Paladin PIM Howitzers, we are trying to 
modernize the enduring force. They are going to be around for a 
while. But at the same time we want to make sure we keep the 
momentum going on our future systems, which I absolutely 
believe we must have if we are going to be the Army we need to 
be in the future.
    So that is the tradeoff, and then, the way the system works 
is I come back as the chief and provide those unfunded 
priorities list, and that is what ends up here, and then it is 
up to you all to decide what you want to do with it.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. Secretary, do you believe that 
with the shortcomings now that we will be able to reach our 
maximum that we need in terms of Strykers by 2030? With the 
shortcomings do you think that we will be able to catch up with 
that in the next 8 or 9 years?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think that is hard to predict 
without knowing what the top line is going to be for the Army 
in the future years. I think, frankly, what we will probably 
do, and what future secretaries and future chiefs will do is 
each year, as we put forward the budget request, look at how to 
balance, as General McConville said, between investing in those 
new systems and also continuing to modernize those enduring 
systems.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. We are going to have a lot of 
catching up to do if we continue to cut like that. Obviously it 
is going to put us way behind, but I understand what you are 
saying.
    General, in 2020 you testified, ``Seventy-four percent of 
the Active component brigade combat teams have been at the 
highest level of tactical readiness.'' For the Army, who is 
responsible for assessing the readiness of our brigade combat 
teams, who is responsible for assessing the teams, in your 
mind?
    General McConville. Well, when we talk about the readiness 
it is actually the commanders. The commanders have certain 
criteria, what their personnel status is, what their readiness 
status is, have they gone through a combat training center and 
achieved the level of training? So those all come together to 
give us an assessment.
    Senator Tuberville. Has it always been that way or has 
there been a third party involved?
    General McConville. Well, there are people that check what 
the commanders are saying, and then we have this thing called 
combat, which is a really good check, and so when we call up a 
commander and say, ``You are going to Eastern Europe. You have 
got 7 days to go there,'' and they are able to do that, we 
think that a pretty good check.
    Senator Tuberville. Do you feel like a third party, but not 
the brigade chain of command, such as an IG, would give a very 
positive feedback from what we are doing now, in terms of our 
readiness?
    General McConville. Well, I do not know what the IG would 
say, but what I do is talk to our combat training centers that 
run them through a very rigorous 2- to 3-week period. I talk to 
commanders who are responsible and accountable for that. Then, 
really, the proof is in the execution. How well do they do when 
it comes to accomplishing----
    Senator Tuberville. Your experience in the past, are combat 
commanders tougher or is the IG tougher in terms of assessing 
readiness, in your experience?
    General McConville. My experience is I trust my commanders.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to our 
witnesses.
    Russia had a plan to dominate Ukraine, quickly topple the 
government, depose Zelenskyy. Their plans failed. I want to 
follow up on a line of questioning from Senator Kaine, who 
complimented our logistics. There are a whole series of 
factors, Ukrainian resolve chief among them, but I share 
Senator King's belief that the superior logistics of the U.S. 
and our allies in providing support to Ukraine has been a real 
factor in being able to dramatically shrink the success of 
Russian war aims.
    If you could maybe each talk about whether you agree with 
me on that and compare it with logistical failures on the 
Russian side.
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator. I mean, I fully believe 
that logistics has been an Achilles heel for the Russians, and 
I think we have demonstrated, by how quickly we have been able 
to get our own forces over to Europe but also in terms of the 
speed and volume of lethal assistance that we are providing to 
Ukraine, we are showing the incredible competency of the U.S. 
Army in the area of logistics.
    This is something, frankly, that the Army has been focused 
on like a laser in terms of looking ahead to future conflicts. 
I mean, we have a whole joint contested logistics concept that 
we have been working on because there is a recognition, 
particularly in the Indo-Pacific, that given the distances, it 
is that old saying of amateurs study strategy and professionals 
study logistics. I think watching the experience of the 
Russians has underscored how important that is and has just 
reinforced our commitment to focusing on that going forward.
    Senator Kaine. General McConville, do you want to add 
anything to that?
    General McConville. Yes, I would. I think this shows the 
importance of our allies and partners, the fact that we have 
access over there, the fact that we have presence, you know, 
airfields and ports and having put in what we call pre-
positioned stocks, and having orchestrated this and actually 
rehearsed it. You know, it is one thing to have equipment over 
there, but the equipment actually has to be ready to go. You 
all have helped with that. When we come in and say, hey, we 
need to pre-position tanks, and we need to make sure these 
tanks are ready to go, and we have maintainers over there that 
are making that happen, and we have troops over there that work 
very closely with our allies and partners.
    When you have a crisis we are able to quickly get there. We 
have got a lot of relationships, very strong relationships with 
our allies and partners over there, and it is kind of a model 
for the rest of the world.
    Senator Kaine. I think that your two answers really put the 
logistics question together, because it is one thing to have 
great logistics within the U.S. Army or within DOD-wide, but 
what about the logistics of the DOD and all of our forces 
together with our allied forces. This kind of integrated 
logistics with allies is extremely unique and really has set us 
apart from what we are seeing with Russia.
    Well, I am a strong believer in this and I just have to 
point out, Senator Cotton talked earlier about something that 
he might worry would lead to deaths or challenges on the 
battlefield and the physical standards. I have not served in 
the way he has so I listen carefully.
    Here is something I am worried about. Since November there 
has been a nominee that has gotten through this committee to be 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Sustainment. This is the 
chief logistics civilian at the Department of Defense, 
Christopher Lowman. He is a Virginian.
    Now he is not just a political appointee. This was a guy 
who was a Marine officer from 1984 to 1989, and then when he 
retired from Active Duty he joined the Army as a civilian, and 
he has been a civilian with the Army for 33 years, including 
the chief logistics official for the Army. He has been 
nominated and through this committee without any controversy to 
be the chief logistics officer within the Pentagon.
    We cannot get him a vote. I have made unanimous consent 
motions twice in the last two weeks that have been objected to 
by the minority, without citing a single reason that 
Christopher Lowman is not the right person to do this. Why 
would we not be having a logistics leader at the Pentagon in 
the middle of a war in Europe? Why would we hobble ourselves? 
If we are going to talk about something that could lead to 
challenges on the battlefield, not confirming the Pentagon's 
chief logistics official at a time when this is the strategic 
edge that is helping us shrink Russian war aims, I just cannot 
fathom it. I have been asking my colleagues on the other side 
whether Christopher Lowman--and I admit to a bias. He is a 
Virginian. He lives in Fredericksburg--whether you might allow 
this person, who has already served the nation's military 
mission for about 40 years, just allow him to take the position 
and help us in an area that is desperately needed.
    I yield, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you both for 
being here. I have got a question I do not think has been 
covered yet, and it relates to Finland and Sweden. I am the co-
chair of the Senate NATO Observer Group, and Senator Shaheen 
and I were in Brussels 2 weeks ago, and we were talking about 
accession, and I met with Swedish officials yesterday. By all 
indications by the time we get to the NATO summit at the end of 
June we were going to have formal request for accession. Then 
we are going to go into a gray area. We are going to do 
everything we can here to expedite the process, and I think it 
will receive broad bipartisan support. But they are going to be 
in a gray area between the time they apply and the time that 
they are ultimately approved by the NATO members.
    So two questions. One, can you all describe the current 
military-to-military relationships with both Finland and 
Sweden? General McConville or Secretary Wormuth.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, while Finland and Sweden are 
not NATO allies yet they have worked very closely with the 
alliance over the years, as you know, and we have very strong 
military-to-military relationships with both countries. They 
will both, I believe, joining NATO, be security providers, not 
consumers, and I look forward to them becoming members.
    Senator Tillis. General McConville?
    General McConville. Same thing. We have a very strong 
relationship with their chief, chiefs of staff, at least from 
an Army standpoint. We routinely run exercises, and they are 
very good partners.
    Senator Tillis. With Finland sharing, I think, somewhere 
around 1,340-kilometer border with Russia there is clearly some 
concern about that gray zone, that gray period between 
application and accession. Are there any current military 
exercises, any other activities that are already planned that 
we could potential consider to move up to provide some 
assurances to them as they go through the application process 
or accession process?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I am not aware of the detailed 
schedule of exercises right now. We can certainly look into 
that. You know, I think in the gray area, I do not think from a 
conventional military standpoint Russia is going to be in much 
of a position to move its ground forces, for example. They are 
pretty tied down in Ukraine right now. I think the area that I 
would have concerns about is in the cyber domain, you know, 
what might Russia be tempted to do there potentially, and I 
think that is something that we would want to talk to the Finns 
and the Swedes about.
    Senator Tillis. Yes. Speaking with Swedish officials 
yesterday I think one thing--I tend to agree. Intellectually, 
they are not doing a very good job in Ukraine, and I think it 
is unlikely. But if you are a policymaker in Finland or Sweden 
and you have got relatively strong public support for 
accession, I am sure that there is a real concern, because they 
are seeing what is going on in Ukraine.
    So I think that we have to do other things, just as an 
assurance, and to continue to maintain what appears to be broad 
support in both Finland and Sweden. So looking at that, I 
think, is very important.
    I want to move to Abrams tanks. I know we have got unfunded 
priority from the Army on I think another full brigade, and 
that is particularly interesting to me because some of that 
would go down to the 30th Armored Brigade combat team in our 
National Guard. I think it also touches South Carolina and West 
Virginia.
    Do you all agree that that is a priority and you support 
it?
    General McConville. Yes. I mean, again----
    Senator Tillis. No equivocation. That is good. The next 
question is with what we are seeing we have got stockpiles in 
Germany. We have had Russian tanks move into Ukraine. We are 
moving Abrams tanks around Europe, which is a good thing. But 
we also have an industrial base. We are working on the 
modernization of the Abrams platform. We have an industrial 
base. Can you speak to the importance of making sure that we 
continue investment in that modernization program so that we 
can get efficiencies as we turn out more of these platforms?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator. We are very focused on 
modernizing our organic industrial base, and as I said, we have 
a 15-year plan that General Ed Daly, down at Army Material 
Command, has really worked hard on. Because we want to make 
sure that we continue to get what we need out of the industrial 
base that we have but also to upskill some of the workforce 
that we have there and some of the facilities so that they are 
able to eventually be able to repair and maintain the new 
systems that are coming online.
    Senator Tillis. Great, and I have run out of time so I will 
submit a question for the record on modernization plan for 
military housing. We have got challenges down at Fort Bragg, 
and it is not limited to that installation, and I look forward 
to hearing your feedback on it.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis.
    Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate this 
hearing. I really appreciate the work and the service that both 
of you are doing and the vast knowledge you have, and I am so 
grateful for the logistics planning that has gone on for so 
many years, that has allowed us to protect men and women in our 
military and, of course, all of us. So thank you for all those 
spreadsheets and logistics that nobody ever thinks, like was 
said, are very sexy but the most important thing.
    But I want to talk about small arms range for Nevada for 
training in Nevada. Secretary Wormuth, Nevada does not have an 
approved small arms qualification range. In order for soldiers 
to annually qualify on an approved range Nevada's units must 
transport soldiers somewhere between 200 and 600 miles out of 
state to meet this requirement. The average cost for a unit to 
attend the out-of-states weapons qualification is $500,000, 
half a million dollars, a year, per unit. Some units mitigate 
this by sacrificing training days in order to travel, using 
vehicles assigned to the unit. It takes an additional 2 to 3 
days of travel time, which is not often an option.
    So the National Guard Bureau has justified the requirement 
for one multipurpose range complex for Nevada, and the Nevada 
Army National Guard has acquired a 25-year least at Hawthorne 
Army Depot, which is in the center of our state. However, the 
current timeline for MilCom funding to be approved is 2030, at 
its earlier.
    So given that financial cost to transport soldiers out of 
state far exceeds the cost of building a range, can I have your 
commitment to incorporate a small arms range at Hawthorne Army 
Depot into future years defense planning or unfunded priority 
list so that our soldiers can meet their annual requirements at 
greater convenience, and actually at a cost savings to the 
taxpayer?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Rosen, I will absolutely look 
into that, and again, work with, it sounds like, General 
Jensen, the Director of the Army Guard, and General Daly, to 
see if there is something that we can do there.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, the cost savings, I think, you get 
better training, save money. It makes sense.
    On that same note, the Reserve components and their new 
army fitness test. So General McConville, our Reserve 
components, they face their own challenges, as citizen soldiers 
without access to day-to-day services available to our Active 
Duty troops on military installations. So one such challenge 
will be the transition to the Army Combat Fitness Test, ACFT. 
While Active Duty soldiers will have ACFT equipment at their 
everyday place of work, Reserve component soldiers will not, no 
matter how much equipment is fielded to their units. These 
soldiers are not at their units 28 days out of the month to 
train on the equipment they are going to be tested on, and many 
just do not live nearby.
    This is going require Reserve component soldiers to pay for 
specialized gym equipment in order to train, whereas every 
soldier, Active Duty soldier, can train for Army Physical 
Fitness Test from their own home.
    General McConville, how do you plan to address this 
disparity as you implement ACFT?
    General McConville. Well, first of all we put a lot of 
equipment, probably the biggest buy of ACFT equipment, but we 
have also put out ways to train if you do not have access to 
the equipment. So we have exercises. If you think about a 
plank, one of the exercises. You do not need equipment to do 
that. The hand-release pushups, you do not need any type of 
equipment to do that. The ball throw, you know, if you do not 
have a ball we can get something that looks like that, and you 
can take some weights and just use some of the things that you 
have, you know, a water can to replicate that.
    So most of the things we can replicate without the 
equipment, and we have exercises that they can do to give them 
the opportunity. But we will not be able to put a full set of 
equipment in every home, but every organization, within limits, 
should have that.
    Going back to--I was not aware of that arms requirement. We 
will take that on----
    Senator Rosen. Oh, thank you.
    General McConville.--okay, for that marksmanship. Our 
soldiers need to be able to shoot. We should not have to go all 
over the state to do that. I just was not aware of that one. I 
will take that one on personally.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, at Hawthorne Army Depot. It is easy to 
get to from northern and southern Nevada.
    General McConville. It seems like it should be really easy, 
Senator, but we owe it, like the Senator said, let us take a 
look at it.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you.
    General McConville. This is the first I have heard of it, 
and I have been in the Army for 41 years. But we will take a 
look at that and we will get on it.
    Senator Rosen. I appreciate it, and I see my time is just 
about up, so I will submit a question for the record about our 
Russian threat assessment and how you think we are going to 
have to adjust now, based on what we have learned over the last 
few months, going on in Ukraine, how we need to surge up, where 
we need to resupply, and logistics again, how they might have 
to change, considering the threats we have now, and what we 
have learned in Ukraine.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to you both 
for being here. Let us talk a little bit, if we could, about 
housing at Fort Leonard Wood, and Secretary Wormuth, if I could 
just start with you. I understand that there are discussions 
underway about raising the basic allowance for housing at Fort 
Leonard Wood, which I think is essential, both to combat the 
rising inflation but also support future investments in 
housing. Will the Army support raising the BAH for Fort Leonard 
Wood?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, we will absolutely look into 
that. As you probably know, we, the Department, raised BAH in I 
think over 50 locations where there were rising costs, so if 
there is evidence that the costs around Fort Leonard Wood are 
rising in a disproportionate way we would want to look at that.
    Senator Hawley. Can I have your commitment, your personal 
commitment, to prioritize this issue, BAH at Fort Leonard Wood, 
in your discussions with OSD?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, I would be happy to prioritize it.
    Senator Hawley. Great. Thank you. Along similar lines I 
asked you and General McConville both last year, at this 
hearing, about the Army's plans to replace aging homes at Fort 
Leonard Wood, and you both assured me that that would be a 
priority. Army Material Command followed up with my office 
afterwards and said that the Army would be earmarking funds for 
this. However, as of this week I am not aware that the Army has 
allocated any funds toward replacing housing at Fort Leonard 
Wood. Zero.
    So my question is, why has the Army not put together a plan 
to replacing the aging housing at Fort Leonard Wood, despite 
agreeing that they need to be replaced?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, we have a 10-year 
infrastructure plan that looks at housing as well as power 
projection infrastructure. It would surprise me if in that 10-
year plan there was not investments set aside for Fort Leonard 
Wood. So let me take that and get back to you and find out 
exactly where, in our plan, what year we are looking at trying 
to deal with the housing there.
    Senator Hawley. Well, let me tell you what I was told. I 
was told last year there was $341 million that were going to be 
allocated towards replacing housing. Then I was told later only 
$50 million would be available to Fort Leonard Wood, and then I 
was told after that it would be zero. So you can imagine I am 
not very happy about it.
    I am also not very happy about the fact that the Army does 
not include any funding to replace housing at Fort Leonard Wood 
in the budget request or in the unfunded requirements list for 
fiscal year 2023. So why not?
    Secretary Wormuth. Well, Senator, again, I will go and 
look. We have a 10-year plan. It may well be that there is not 
money in fiscal year 2023, but there may be money in future 
years. So what I would like to do is go back and look into 
exactly where you are in the schedule.
    You know, the Army, as I have come to understand in a whole 
new way, we have huge footprint with housing at installations 
all across the country. We cannot, in a single year, take care 
of all of the housing issues that we have. So we try to look 
where the need is most pressing and sort of develop a schedule. 
But I would be happy to look into it, and I understand that you 
are frustrated hearing different things at different times.
    Senator Hawley. Well, here is the deal. I realize that you 
have got issues you have got to address all over the nation, 
and bases all over the nation, but in Missouri it is a pressing 
issue. When I am told there are going to be funds available for 
housing in Missouri and then there are not, I am not happy 
about it, and I am not happy about getting the run-around about 
what it is going to be and what it is not going to be. Frankly, 
what I want to hear is that Fort Leonard Wood is going to be a 
priority, and that it is going to get done. So 10-year, 20-
year, 50-year, 500-year plans, I want it done.
    So if you could follow up with me and give me some hard 
facts about what actually is happening and when it is going to 
get done, I would appreciate it.
    Secretary Wormuth. I will do that.
    Senator Hawley. Can I have your commitment on that?
    Secretary Wormuth. You absolutely may, Senator.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. Let me shift topics. You gave a 
speech, Madam Secretary, last year, about the Army's role in 
the Indo-Pacific, and during that speech you said, and I am 
going to quote you now, ``If required, the Army can 
counterattack using its maneuver forces, for example, infantry, 
Stryker elements, and combat aviation brigades to restore the 
territorial integrity of our allies and partners.''
    My question is, given that DOD has designed China as the 
pacing threat and the Taiwan scenario as the pacing scenario, 
what role do you see army maneuver forces playing in helping us 
deter a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan?
    Secretary Wormuth. Well, I think, Senator, that combat-
credible forces are very important in terms of deterring China. 
So I do not want to speculate too much on hypotheticals but I 
can envision that we would have ground forces in countries in 
Southeast Asia, for example, that might be willing, in a future 
conflict, to give us access.
    You know, we exercise regularly with the Philippines, for 
example. We have a very close relationship with Australia. So I 
can envision situations where ground forces could be very 
helpful.
    Senator Hawley. Good. That is helpful.
    General, can I just ask you, in my last question here, do 
you think that we should maintain the ability to put Army 
forces on Taiwan in the event of a crisis, so the President has 
an option, if necessary, to deter or defeat a fait accompli?
    General McConville. I believe we should provide multiple 
options to the chain of command, and we should not be a one-
option commander. We have got great sea forces. We have got 
great air forces. We have got great ground forces. What we want 
to do is provide multiple options, and I think our 
modernization priorities do that. With Long Range Precision 
Fire we can sink ships. But at the end of the day, you know, 
someone on the ground is going to have to be there, whether it 
is our allies and partners.
    But the thing we also found out with Ukraine is we put 
soldiers into the Baltics and we put soldiers in place. Having 
American soldiers on the ground reinforced our allies and 
partners, and quite frankly, it reinforces their will to defend 
their country, and I think we should have that option for the 
National Command Authority.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you both and thank you, especially, 
Madam Secretary, for your help on the housing issue. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Army is negotiating renewals of several training area 
leases in Hawaii that are set to expire in 2029, including the 
Pohakuloa Training Area, PTA. Secretary Wormuth, as you know, 
PTA is critical to ensure Army ground forces and Marine forces 
in Hawaii are adequately trained. However, these lands hold 
cultural significance to the Native Hawaiian community, and it 
is imperative that the Army conduct a respectful engagement 
with local community leaders, especially the Native Hawaiian 
population, to listen to their concerns.
    Secretary Wormuth, these training area leases are critical, 
as I just mentioned, as was and is the case with the massive 
Red Hill fuel tank installation. The training lease issue is 
one that will require senior-level involvement to ensure the 
community's concerns as well the national security concerns are 
addressed. So as we have previously discussed, I would ask you 
and General McConville to personally place attention on this 
issue.
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator Hirono. I appreciate you 
raising that and I will be getting out to the region this 
summer, and I have already talked with General Flynn and intend 
to engage with community leaders the next time I am there, on 
the training range issues.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you very much. I cannot begin to 
express how important Pohakuloa Training Area is going to be 
for our military.
    Secretary Wormuth. We agree.
    Senator Hirono. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
last year Congress made historic changes to how the military 
handles sexual assault, and while those changes are a step in 
the right direction, implementation in a timely manner will be 
important. I also remain concerned about how sexual harassment 
is being investigated and prosecuted because there is no 
question that sexual harassment is also a scourge on the 
military, which is why I introduced the Sexual Harassment 
Independent Investigations and Prosecutions Act to solve this 
outside of the chain of command.
    Do you think, Secretary Wormuth, that moving sexual 
harassment investigation outside the decisions on prosecuting 
sexual harassments outside of the chain of command would be 
another step in the right direction to restore trust in the 
system?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Hirono, I certainly think we 
need to restore trust in the system, and I think the changes 
that Congress has legislated already will help us with that. I 
would be certainly open to looking at what you are putting 
forward in your legislation.
    You know, we have made a number of changes. I think it 
would be useful to see what are the results of the changes that 
we are now undertaking. But it is very important to me to 
restore trust with our soldiers, and frankly, with the American 
public. So I am open to looking at what more we might do.
    Senator Hirono. Just as we removed sexual assault from the 
chain of command I do see sexual trauma, military sexual 
trauma, as a continuum, and I believe that a huge part of what 
happens in sexual trauma in the military is the issue of 
harassment.
    So for both of you, last Congress--I am sorry. This is for 
General McConville. The Army's Multi-Domain Task Force, MDTF, 
is focused on defeating an enemy's anti-access and aerial 
denial capabilities, and I believe the Army is planning to 
stand up additional MDTFs beyond the one at Joint Base Lewis-
McChord in Washington State. Is the Army still planning to 
stand up additional MDTFs, and if so, where?
    General McConville. Yes, Senator, we are. We plan right now 
to stand up five of those. The next one that we are standing 
up, initially, is in Hawaii. The command has been selected, and 
that Multi-Domain Task Force will provide what we call long-
range precision effects, which is through intelligence, through 
information operations, cyber, electronic warfare, and space, 
and it also, depending, will be tailored to provide Long-Range 
Precision Fires that can penetrate anti-access air-denial 
capabilities, sink ships, and provide fires in a precision way 
for our ground and joint commanders.
    Senator Hirono. What specific steps is the Army taking to 
ensure that the MDTFs can work closely with our allies and 
partners, because that will be an important aspect of what 
these task forces do?
    General McConville. Well, they are very much in high 
demand, just like our Security Force Assistance Brigades. Under 
General Flynn's leadership he has then working very closely 
with our allies and partners, providing those capabilities, and 
we will continue to do that so they are an integral part of 
both the joint and the combined force.
    Senator Hirono. Mr. Chairman, I have some additional 
questions but I will submit them for the record. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and General, 
Madam Secretary, thank you for your service. I appreciated our 
phone call yesterday, and I kind of want to dive into some of 
the topics we talked about.
    As you know, we have this very kind of dual challenge and 
opportunity in Alaska. The challenge is the very high rates of 
suicide, which nobody wants, and I really appreciate the Army 
focusing on this. I think you have put all your best minds to 
it. It is a complex problem but I want to thank all of you. 
Madam Secretary, you were in Alaska recently. The vice chief 
was in. General, you are up there a lot.
    So we talked about some of what you are thinking through, 
both from a surge capacity on professionals that can provide 
help but also, as part of the Arctic Strategy that you have 
been focused on for quite some time, new capabilities in 
Alaska. I was wondering if you both would not mind touching on 
both of those topics right now. Again, I appreciate your full 
attention to this issue, which I know concerns you as much as 
it concerns me and the people I represent.
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Senator Sullivan. You know, I 
think really there are two big things that we are trying to do 
in Alaska right now under the umbrella of the Arctic Strategy 
for the Army. First, as we talked about yesterday, we are 
really trying to surge a significant quantity of behavioral 
health providers to help deal with the mental health issues. So 
we have behavioral health folks going up, we are sending 
military family life counselors, we are sending chaplains, and 
that will be a 6-month surge, and we will be doing 100 percent 
mental health check of every U.S. Army Alaska soldier.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you.
    Secretary Wormuth. One of the things we have found, in 
addition, that we think is contributing, potentially, to some 
of what we are seeing in Alaska is that some of the soldiers 
there do not feel like they have a sense of identity or purpose 
around why they are stationed there. So we are looking at, as 
we talked about yesterday, reflagging the U.S. Army Alaska 
headquarters as the 11th Airborne Division, which is a division 
that was disestablished but has a very storied lineage. We are 
thinking of essentially renaming U.S. Army Alaska the 11th 
Airborne Division.
    Senator Sullivan. So that would be an operational----
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes. It would become an operational 
headquarters, the two brigades that are there. We are not 
adding or subtracting force structure. It is really sort of 
more of a new sense of common identity for the soldiers up 
there.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. General, do you have any thoughts 
on that?
    General McConville. As the Secretary said, as we give them 
the identity, you know, having had a chance to serve in an 
Airborne Division, the 101st Airborne Division, the 11th has a 
great history and heritage and that means a lot to soldiers. 
and tabs on their badges and things like that matter.
    But we are looking at the Arctic very differently. We have 
put out a strategy. We think it is very different. We have got 
to be able to operate in that environment. We have got to make 
sure the units have the capabilities, and that gives them the 
confidence to be somewhat special--you are the ones that can 
operate with the right equipment--and even transform some of 
those units so they have the right vehicles to operate in the 
coldest time, they have the right equipment and the right 
clothing.
    All those things come together to give them a sense of 
identity, and that is who we send there. We have a lot of 
people that want to go to Alaska. They go up there and they 
thrive. We have some that do not. They just have a tough time, 
and I think COVID has exacerbated a lot of the challenges we 
have because of isolation. That is something we recognize. When 
we talk about building these cohesive teams, you build a 
cohesive team around a mission, and you give them focus and you 
give them identity, and that is what brings them together, and 
that is what we want to try to do.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Madam Secretary, we talked 
yesterday about the civilian behavioral health support, and it 
is difficult to fill in a lot of places in the country, and 
particularly difficult to fill in Alaska. Do you think changing 
the ratio of uniformed-to-civilian behavioral health providers, 
in remote locations--I am not just talking about Alaska; this 
happened in other places in the Army globally, not just in the 
U.S.--can that help alleviate the challenge and the shortage 
problem? It is something we are looking at here in the 
committee.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I do think it is something that 
we need to look at. That was something I talked about with 
General Eifler in Alaska. I talked to his hospital director. We 
want to look at that. I mean, we of course need to look at what 
are the second- and third-order effects for changing those 
ratios because we have to make sure we have got enough military 
medical providers for the whole Army, but it is something we 
want to look at certainly.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask a final question, kind of two 
parts. Is part of the 11th Airborne we were just talking about 
the Multi-Domain Task Force? I know that is something you were 
looking at in Alaska as well, and then the recent USARC large-
scale exercises and JPARC [Joint Pacific Alaskan Range Complex] 
in March. Can you provide a readout, just briefly, on some of 
the takeaways from that? I know it was very significant, hard, 
hard training, joint training, in very cold weather. Any 
thoughts and takeaways on lessons learned from that as it 
relates to what you are planning on in Alaska, and they beyond, 
Multi-Domain Task Force and others?
    General McConville. Yes, I can talk about that. Senator, 
you know, we kind of want to train where we are going to fight, 
and historically Alaska has been more of a basing place. We 
took them out of there and we needed to send them to the 
National Training Center or to Fort Polk. You know, Fort Polk 
in the summer is not the equivalent of the Arctic in the 
winter.
    What we learned was conducting exercises in the winter, in 
a combat training center-like environment is extremely 
important, so our soldiers develop the confidence in how to 
work in that environment. As you know very well, better than I 
do--I have been up there in the winter but not for a long 
period of time--it takes a special type of training. It takes a 
special soldier that can operate and thrive in that 
environment, and that is why we want to give them a high-
visibility or high-intensity type training event up in that 
environment. General Flynn was very high on it.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you both.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Warren, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our two witnesses for being here today.
    At the end of the day, budgets are a statement of our 
values. I do not like the statement being made by the Army 
budget request. We have all heard the horror stories of 
substandard, on-base housing. Military families across the 
country live with black mold and collapsed ceilings and 
electrical and fire hazards and a lot of other substandard 
conditions. After this scandal was exposed, then-Acting 
Secretary of Army Ryan McCarthy said, before this committee, 
military housing was, ``our top quality-of-life priority, and 
we are aligning resources against it.''
    Secretary Wormuth, do you agree that safe and healthy 
housing conditions for military families should be a top Army 
priority?
    Secretary Wormuth. I do, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Good. I agree with you on this.
    Secretary Wormuth, the Army's base budget just submitted to 
Congress requests for $1.9 billion in funds for military 
construction and family housing. Is that correct?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, I believe so, Senator.
    Senator Warren. Okay. The reason I wanted to clarify on how 
committed the Army is to addressing the military housing 
problems is because that $1.9 billion in the Army's base budget 
represents a cut to military housing and construction funding 
by nearly 40 percent compared with last year.
    Now another big chunk of the money needed to address the 
problem--evidently you think there is still work to be done--
another $330 million is on a separate list typically referred 
to as the unfunded priorities list. This so-called unfunded 
priorities list is the way for the Pentagon to pad spending 
over and above the official budget. It is not just a few 
extras. The Army's list this year adds up to $5.1 billion.
    Typically, the Pentagon takes some of the most popular 
items that it wants funded, excludes them from the base budget, 
puts them on the unfunded priorities list, and then dares 
Congress not to jack up its budget above the Pentagon's initial 
submission.
    So, Secretary Wormuth, during your confirmation hearing you 
agreed that substandard military housing was both readiness and 
a retention problem. You just told us it should be a top Army 
priority. So why did you not include the whole request in your 
base budget?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, thanks for that question, and 
as I was just saying to Senator Hawley, we have a very large 
footprint with a large number of bases. All of them have 
housing. I would love nothing more than to be able to renovate 
all of the housing around the country that needs to be 
renovated in a single year, but we are not able to do that at 
the same time that we are trying to transform ourselves in 
terms of modernization in a way that we have not done for 40 
years, and also maintain the readiness that we need to be able 
to respond quickly, as we have, to the situation in Ukraine.
    So we are trying to balance a number of competing demands. 
We put almost $2 billion in for family housing and barracks, 
and we are required by law, the chief is, to submit an unfunded 
priorities list. I will let him speak to the----
    Senator Warren. The question is not whether or not you have 
an unfunded priorities list. I understand that. My question is 
why housing ended up on it and why your base budget is a 40 
percent cut on housing? It is a 40 percent cut over just the 
year before.
    Look, I just look at it this way. Military families need 
this funding and they should get it. We need to fix our 
shameful military housing problem, and we need to do it as 
quickly as possible. These wish lists distort the budget 
process, and we should end this game. It is not worthy of our 
military. Either have the courage to ask for more money up 
front or, better yet, cut something else from your budget so 
that you have got enough room to be able to keep the promises 
that you have made to military families. If taking care of 
military families is truly a priority then you should be 
including their needs in the base budget request, not using 
military families as pawns to gain the budget system for more 
dollars.
    So I just feel really frustrated about this process.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses here today. Thank you for your service.
    Secretary Wormuth, the U.S. and our allies have shipped 
tens of thousands of Javelins and other anti-tank guided 
missile systems to Ukraine where we have seen they have been 
used for just absolutely devastating impact against Russian 
tanks and other armed vehicles. It has been encouraging to see, 
and the skill by which the Ukrainians have deployed them has 
been outstanding.
    The proliferation, though, of affordable, easy-to-operate 
ATGMs [Anti-Tank Guided MissileS] has certainly changed the 
calculus of armor on the battlefield. We do know though, 
however, that active protection systems can be used to defend 
armored vehicles from these kinds of threats. Other countries 
around the world, some of our allies, have embraced the 
solution, have been putting it on their armored vehicles in a 
pretty aggressive way. The U.S. seems to be somewhat reluctant. 
With the exception of a small amount of our Abrams tanks that 
have these systems, the Army does not seem to have a plan to 
test and field anti-protection systems for the entire fleet of 
Strykers, for example, or other armored vehicles.
    So my question for you, ma'am, is does the Army have any 
plans to equip its Stryker with active protection systems, and 
if so, what is the timeline for testing and training? What does 
that look like?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think you know we are 
certainly very concerned about threats to our tanks, and we 
have watched what drones can do, for example, to Russian tanks. 
So we, at this point in time, I think, think that the 
protection systems that we have on our Abrams, on our Strykers, 
are quite good. I certainly would be willing to look in more 
detail if there are additional systems that have proved to be 
effective.
    We are also looking, as I said, you know, there is a 
balance between how quickly we can modernize some of our 
enduring platforms like Stryker while also modernizing. But I 
will certainly commit to you to look into that in a little more 
detail.
    Senator Peters. Well, as you mentioned, the threat is 
evolving pretty rapidly with relatively inexpensive weapons 
that do devastating damage, so I would hope that we are 
thinking this through, and lessons learned from conflicts are 
usually incredibly valuable.
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes. We are taking active note of the 
lessons coming out of Ukraine.
    Senator Peters. I appreciate that.
    General McConville, the Army's Multi-Domain Task Forces 
represent, as you know, the centerpiece in operationalizing the 
Army's multi-domain operations (MDO) concept, and this vision 
of MDO is critical to understanding how the Army plans to fight 
and win wars in the future.
    The Army has already activated two Multi-Domain Task Forces 
and plans, I understand, to stand up three more. My question 
for you is, in the Army, where the Active component is less 
than 50 percent of the force structure, how does the Army 
National Guard fit into this vision for both MDTFs as well as 
MDO?
    General McConville. Well, you know, the Army National Guard 
is absolutely critical. I cannot speak enough for what they are 
doing for the country. The Army Reserves, as you said, they are 
more than 52 percent. What we have asked them to do in the 
United States and also overseas is just miraculous. I keep 
saying this is the year of the Guard, and every year it seems 
like it is the same year after year, and we have asked them to 
do so much.
    The Secretary and I have committed to the Guard that they 
will get the modern equipment. It will not be the first 31 in 
the regular Army. We have made a promise to the Guard that they 
will be fielded with this type of equipment up front. I have 
talked to General Hokanson. He wants the National Guard, in 
coordination with the governors, to reflect where the regular 
Army is going. They want to have the same capabilities, and we 
are doing that with them as we work through those problem sets.
    Senator Peters. Thank you.
    Secretary Wormuth, as Chair of Homeland Security and 
Government Affairs Committee I am concerned about the impacts 
of the increased domestic activation of our Guard forces for 
national disaster recovery, civil unrest, pandemic response. 
They have been called on for a variety of missions. We 
absolutely need these brave men and women to answer the calls 
to service, but it also has increased operational tempo, and 
that certainly takes its toll.
    Data compiled by my staff indicates that the quantity of 
Army guardsmen that fall short of earning a retirement-credible 
year has increased from less than 1 percent to nearly 4.5 
percent over the last decade. While this is a small percentage 
of the total force, and certainly many factors are at play, I 
do not think it is any coincidence that the number is growing 
amid increased calls for non-Federal duty.
    So my question for you is, while the state and Federal 
management of our National Guard is an essential framework, is 
your department considering the inadvertent side effects of 
state activations while you are undertaking your duty status 
reforms?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, you know, as General McConville 
said, we are very aware of how heavily used the National Guard 
is in many parts of our country, and we want to make sure that 
they are compensated and provided the benefits that they should 
get when they are activated in Title 10 status. We try to look 
very carefully at the second- and third-order effects of their 
support to civil authorities. So we will look into what you are 
raising and get back to you with more detail.
    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate it. We will follow up 
with you and look forward to having a chance to work through 
this and make sure people are treated fairly and equitably. So 
thank you very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    Senator Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Wow. Good timing. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Impeccable timing.
    Senator Duckworth. Impeccable. Just got to land your 
aircraft plus or minus 10 seconds.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Wormuth and General 
McConville, thank you for your service to our Army and thank 
you for your discussion with me earlier this week.
    I am truly encouraged by the challenging work you both are 
doing to lead the modernization of our Army, particularly in 
the Future Vertical Lift program. On Tuesday I chaired a 
classified Air-Land Subcommittee briefing on the status of the 
Future Vertical Lift program, and despite the love I will 
always have for my UH-60 I am excited for the future of Army 
aviation. It is clear that the Army has applied lessons learned 
from acquisition programs across the DOD as this program 
remains on schedule and on budget while bringing cutting-edge, 
vital combat capability to our forces. I want this trend to 
continue for all lines of efforts under the Future Vertical 
Lift program and for all phases of each system's lifecycle.
    Secretary Wormuth, given the need for modernization across 
the force, what work is the Army doing to ensure continued 
affordability of these systems, not just during procurement but 
also through sustainment?
    Secretary Wormuth. A primary thing we are doing, Senator 
Duckworth, is really trying to look very early on in the 
development process at affordability costs, at sustainability 
costs, and about maintainability costs, because as you 
undoubtedly know, it is often the sustainment and maintenance 
costs that can really kind of balloon and cause the overall 
cost of the platform to increase. So we are trying to really 
factor that in early and pay a lot of close attention to it as 
we go through the development and acquisition process with 
FLRAA and FARA.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. What portions of this year's 
budget request are fundamental to maintaining on-time delivery 
of all aspects of FVL [Future Vertical Lift]?
    Secretary Wormuth. I am sorry. Could you say that again, 
Senator?
    Senator Duckworth. What portions of this year's budget 
request are fundamental to maintaining on-time delivery of all 
aspects of the Future Vertical Lift program?
    Secretary Wormuth. I would say, Senator, you know, the 
portion of our modernization, $35 billion investment, that is 
associated with Future Vertical Lift is critical to making sure 
that the program stays on schedule. You know, we are in the 
process of--we will be having prototypes for FARA flying in 
fiscal year 2023, we already have some experimental 
demonstrators with FLRAA [Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft], 
and we have the money built into our modernization budget to 
try to keep those programs on schedule.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, and I look forward to working 
with you both to take every opportunity to maintain the success 
of this program.
    I want to switch gears a little bit and talk about 
contested logistics. Our military must be prepared for the 
tough logistical challenges they could face in an Indo-Pacific 
theater of conflict. To do so, we must invest in innovative 
technologies that allow us to provide critical supplies at the 
point of use. Advanced manufacturing programs are already 
producing promising results for the warfighter. For example, 
the Army's Joint Manufacturing and Technology Center at Rock 
Island Army Arsenal in Illinois is leading the way in building 
a robust, additive manufacturing capability with state-of-the-
art 3D printers.
    Deploying this technology would allow us to rapidly produce 
parts needed for maintenance in theater, among other important 
uses, yet there is a lack of overall guidance on how to 
operationalize these technologies and coordinate their 
development across the Department.
    Yesterday I introduced the Bioindustrial Additive 
Manufacturing For America Act. This legislation directs the 
Department of Defense to build on the success of these existing 
efforts and create an implementation strategy that allows the 
DOD to realize the full benefit of additive and bioindustrial 
engineering and manufacturing.
    General McConville, what role do you see additive 
manufacturing playing in supporting the Army's logistics 
efforts in a contested environment, and what barriers do you 
see to successful operationalization of these innovative 
technologies across the Army?
    General McConville. I think, Senator, it is extremely 
important. If you look at how we have done logistics over the 
years, we used to call it the Iron Mountain. We brought a whole 
bunch of parts with us, and that was very excessive. We tried 
to get more efficient and we went to more just-in-time 
logistics, and that becomes very challenging.
    I think what additive manufacturing does for us is gives us 
the capability to make those parts at the critical time when we 
need them. As you know very well, our helicopters do not fly, 
our tanks do not drive, our trucks do not work without having 
those parts.
    So I think we need to get very aggressive after this 
capability. I think we need to have it on the forward edge of 
the battlefield so we can make the parts that are critical in 
case we cannot get the resupplies, and again, I am a firm 
supporter of it.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I think we also stop this 
tendency, sometimes, also to start cannibalizing parts out of 
one piece of equipment, because what happens is you borrow one 
part, so now it is down for that one part, and then another 
aircraft needs something so let's go take it from that one. 
Before you know it you have got a Hangar Queen, whether it is 
an aircraft or a ground vehicle.
    General McConville, given the increased funding tin the 
Pacific Pathways program in your budget request this year, how 
do you plan to grow these types of exercises, and what can 
Congress do to help support you in these efforts, like the 
Pacific Pathways program and these exercises?
    General McConville. Well, we have been talking about this, 
Senator, and talking with General Flynn and talking to Admiral 
Aquilino. It is really important that we set the theater with 
our allies and partners, that we have forward presence, that we 
have access and presence, that we have equipment forward, very 
similar to what we have in Europe. You know, if we want to be 
in a position to reinforce allies and partners and be a 
deterrence we have got to have forward presence, and we need to 
work on that.
    Senator Duckworth. What can we do to help you with that?
    General McConville. Well, some of it is the resourcing and 
also it is a policy decision. For a lot of this I defer to the 
policymakers, of what type of relationship do we have with 
these countries? Do they allow us to have a status of force 
agreement so our troops can come there, so our troops can 
exercise, and so our troops can stay there?
    Senator Duckworth. I know you certainly have done your part 
in developing these relationships, the mil-to-mil 
relationships, and thank you for your efforts in that.
    I am out of time, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth.
    I will at this point recess the open hearing and at 11:50 
we will reconvene in SVC-217 so that the Secretary and the 
Chief can elaborate in a classified setting if they feel so, 
and my colleagues can pose questions that may be requiring 
classified answers.
    With that I will adjourn the open hearing, and at 1150 
hours we will see you in SVC-217. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:35 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

              Questions Submitted by Senator Angus S. King
                   army transition assistance program
    As we discussed during the hearing I am deeply concerned with the 
quality of information and mentorship that is being provided to 
transitioning servicemembers. We have invested a tremendous amount of 
time and resources into training these professional soldier and they 
have served with distinction. I believe we owe it to the 
servicemembers, their families, and the American people to ensure they 
are postured to rejoin the civilian workforce.

    1. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, as the DOD's largest force, how 
is the Department of the Army working to provide the transition 
resources servicemembers need and what innovative opportunities are 
available to soldiers?
    Secretary Wormuth.The Army Transition Assistance Program utilizes 
multiple programs and tools to facilitate the connection between 
transitioning soldiers and employers. The six primary connection 
pillars are:

    1.  Army Career Skills Program and DOD support websites like 
MilGears,

    2.  an employment website provided at no cost by Recruit Military,

    3.  Private Public Partnership,

    4.  in person and virtual hiring events,

    5.  American Job Centers, and

    6.  Partnership for Youth Success (PaYS).

    During the second quarter of fiscal year 2022, the Army saw the 
lowest unemployment compensation invoice total in the last 22 years. 
Hopefully, this is an indication that these programs and tools are 
helping transitioning soldiers bridge the gap between military and 
civilian life.

    2. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, what are the metrics for 
suicides among transitioning soldiers in terms of previous MOS, 
deployments, transition time, etc?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army tracks several factors, both risk and 
protective, that can potentially increase suicidal tendencies in 
soldiers. This information is visible at multiple echelons in an 
attempt to see risk and be proactive in intervening prior to harmful 
events. Most of this information is provided by authoritative data 
sources and tracked within the Commander's Risk Reduction Toolkit 
(CRRT):

      Soldier risk factors include, but not limited to: 
deployments, criminality/legal issues (courts-martial, nonjudicial 
punishment), substance abuse issues (alcohol and drugs), medical 
profiles / duty limiting issues, limited behavioral health issues (due 
to legal limitations), adverse personnel actions (Flags, bars to 
reenlistment, etc.), safety/accidents; sexual assault information (of 
perpetrators only), and domestic violence data.

      Soldier protective factors include, but not limited to: 
resilience skills training, suicide prevention training to include the 
warning signs and indicators, financial education and self-sufficiency, 
and education on the effects of substance abuse on mental health.

      Personnel data that Army collects to provide general 
demographics for study include, but not limited to: gender, rank, age, 
MOS, deployments, promotions/demotions, and physical fitness testing. 
This data provides the general demographics for study.
    Army Regulation 600-8-101 (Personal Readiness Processing) states 
that all soldiers within 60 days of transitioning out of the military 
are required to complete a periodic health assessment (PHA). In 
accordance with medical regulations, the PHA includes a mental health 
assessment consisting of evidence-based questions for depression, PTSD, 
substance abuse, domestic violence, and suicide. These responses are 
reviewed and assessed in a face-to-face encounter with a primary care 
provider. Referrals to specialty behavioral health care are made after 
consultation, as needed. In addition, soldiers being considered for 
separation for disciplinary reasons are required to have a mental 
status examination performed by a mental health provider.

    3. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, how can the DOD and VA work to 
better integrate their healthcare system to prevent record loss or 
delays in critical care?
    Secretary Wormuth. Integration of systems to facilitate 
transferring health information of transitioning soldiers is a key 
priority. DOD and VA are working together to better integrate their 
healthcare systems through the Federal Electronic Healthcare Record 
Modernization (FEHRM) Office. In particular, the FEHRM allows the DOD 
and VA to effectively and efficiently implement an integrated, state of 
the market, electronic health record that can be shared between the VA 
and the DOD in real time. The new electronic health record also 
supports data sharing with private and community partners via the 
Health Information Exchange (HIE), as well as review of servicemembers' 
records within legacy electronic records through the Joint Longitudinal 
Viewer (JLV). JLV is a centrally hosted, browser-based web application, 
used in both the DOD and VA environments.
                           suicide prevention
    4. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, I continue to read the horrific 
stories of suicide across the joint force and I want some done to 
protect our greatest assets in the United States military, the 
servicemembers. I believe it is time to allocate the resources to 
leaders to address the problems and stop conducting inconclusive 
studies on the topic. Leaders at all levels should have the authorities 
and resources to address lift threatening situations and cut the red 
tape slowing care or innovative remedies.
    Secretary Wormuth, what are the metrics by which you measure 
success in the war against soldier suicide?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army measures progress in the reduction of 
suicides across the force by tracking both the protective factors and 
the risk factors that affect suicidality, to include, but not limited 
to: 1) increased knowledge and understanding through education of 
stressors; 2) increased individual resilience skills, such as emotional 
regulation; improved quality of life (such as housing and community 
activities); increased financial education and self-sufficiency; 
increased usage of both non-clinical and clinical assistance (e.g., 
behavioral health, chaplains, and Military and Family Life Counselors 
(MFLCC)) as required to reduce stress. Ultimately, though, the truest 
measure of success is the sustained reduction, as evidenced over 
multiple years, in deaths by suicide across the force. This is a long-
term goal that requires long-term solutions. With that in mind, the 
Army is developing a prevention strategy and building a more robust 
integrated violence prevention workforce to enable a holistic approach 
to prevent suicide and other harmful behaviors. The Army is hiring the 
prevention workforce (PWF) in phased implementation beginning this 
fiscal year through fiscal year 2027. The PWF will be responsible for 
implementing and evaluating evidence-based primary prevention 
activities

    5. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, what is your assessment of the 
Department's efforts in preventing soldier suicide?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army has made great strides in establishing 
the foundations of a prevention-focused suicide prevention program. We 
are implementing a public health approach, focused on engaged 
leadership, as well as new, comprehensive and integrated, policies 
designed to prevent and respond to suicide at the individual and 
community levels. This new approach is informed by science, 
specifically the risk and protective factors identified by the Center 
for Disease Control and Prevention and it is closely aligned with the 
White House's suicide prevention strategy. The Army will continue 
collaborating with academia to conduct research to refine future policy 
and program approaches.
    The Army has been conducting multiple studies, pilots, and 
initiatives over the last three years attempting to expand behavioral 
health resources, identify specific factors, increase prevention 
efforts, destigmatize seeking help, and emphasize limiting access to 
lethal means in order to reduce deaths by suicide within our Service.
    Some of the initiatives include:

      Updating and publishing policies and procedures that 
emphasize suicide prevention, to include a major revision to the 
Suicide Prevention Policy; publishing two commander ``how to'' 
handbooks to facilitate program execution; and a implementing a total 
force chain teaching program initiated by the Vice Chief of Staff of 
the Army to emphasize suicide prevention as a priority.

      The Army is also emphasizing down to the lowest level 
that servicemembers must demonstrate engaged leadership which includes 
implementing preventative measures, such as mandating 100 percent 
wellness checks at select locations. These locations include the 11th 
Airborne in Alaska, Fort Bliss, Fort Drum, and Fort Stewart. A wellness 
check can be 1) a soldier meets with a Military Family Life Counselor 
(MFLC); 2) a Periodic Health Assessment (PHA)-based review of 
behavioral health records for incoming soldiers; or 3) a barracks or 
home check by leadership.

      Developing and fielding the Behavioral Health Readiness 
and Suicide Risk Reduction Review (R4) tool as an instrument that 
assists first line leaders (company-level and below) with risk 
identification and suicide prevention related conversations.

      Effectuating new suicide prevention training that 
challenges the stigma against seeking help, identifies time-sensitive 
warning signs and risk factors, and outlines steps servicemembers can 
take to address the risk. This also includes briefings to all brigade 
and battalion Pre-Command Courses held since August 2021.

      Refining and fielding the Behavioral Health Pulse (BH 
Pulse) tool to provide commanders with an assessment of behavioral 
health across their formations. BH Pulse is a key visibility tool to 
help prevent harmful behaviors and enhance unit well-being.

      Bolstering BH support in USARAK by adding two Active Duty 
and three reserve providers. This additional staff will provide 186 
appointments a week--a 33 percent increase in mental health services.

      In March, Secretary Austin announced a Suicide Prevention 
& Response Independent Review Committee (SPRIRC) to review relevant 
suicide prevention and response activities. The Army will support the 
review and implement the findings and recommendations of the report in 
the future. OSD announced the group's charter and membership, and they 
will start visiting our installations this August. The final report 
will be provided to the SECDEF in late December.

    6. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, in remote locations (i.e. 
Alaska) are the mental health resources adequate to handle the combined 
stressors of isolation, harsh environment, OPTEMPO, and potential first 
term duty issues?
    Secretary Wormuth. The most impactful mental health resource in the 
United States Army is the first line leader, who interacts with the 
soldier on a regular basis, provides mentorship, and is responsible for 
taking care of their subordinates. Leaders are always present, even at 
the most austere locations. Mental and spiritual health services 
comprise the next level of support. The Army is constantly re-
evaluating the distribution of our Nation's limited specialty mental 
health resources within our force. The Army can do ``more with less'' 
by employing these resources wisely. The Army, in collaboration with 
the Defense Health Agency, will continue to update personnel 
distribution documents to better support austere locations. It will 
also broaden the impact of its existing mental health services through 
innovations such as virtual health.

    7. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, how is the Army assessing if 
soldiers are fit to serve in remote locations or high-stress units?
    Secretary Wormuth. Several programs are already in place to 
identify soldiers, noncommissioned officers, and officers who are well-
suited for Alaska assignments.

    a.  The ``Option 20'' initiative allows initial entry soldiers, 
based on their preference, to enlist for assignments in Alaska. Due to 
unit type and composition, Skill Level 1 Soldiers constitute a 
significant percentage (over 56 percent) of the assigned strength of 
the two Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs) in Alaska. Therefore, excluding 
first-term soldiers from cold weather locales may negatively impact 
unit readiness.

    b.  NCOs and Officers leverage the Assignment Satisfaction Key - 
Enlisted Module (ASK-EM), and Assignment Interactive Module 2 (AIM2) 
marketplaces, directly to interact with units to ensure suitable 
candidates are assigned to Alaska-based units.

    Of note, HIPAA prevents Human Resources Command from screening 
soldiers for past or ongoing behavioral health treatment prior to 
assigning them to an Alaska-based unit. The law protects disclosure of 
individually identifiable health information, such as an individual's 
past or current physical or mental health condition, in most 
circumstances. Soldiers with ongoing mental health treatment or other 
medical conditions should consult their medical health provider to 
ensure that they can receive the appropriate treatment at their new 
duty station. Soldier fitness for a particular duty station should be 
determined on a case-by-case basis.
                        research and development
    8. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what is the 
expected timeframe for the United States to match and surpass China and 
Russia's capabilities in hypersonic missile technology and directed 
energy weaponization?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is on track to 
deliver a road mobile, air transportable Long Range Hypersonic Weapon 
(LRHW) that will provide residual combat capability to soldiers by the 
end of fiscal year 2023. The Army, in collaboration with the Navy and 
its industrial partners, continue to make great strides in advancing 
this critical hypersonic capability.
    The Army is currently executing three Directed Energy programs. 
First, the Directed Energy Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-
SHORAD) is on track to deliver its first combat-capable platoon of 
directed energy weapon systems in the 4th quarter of fiscal year 2022 
and will continue delivering prototypes in fiscal year 2023 and fiscal 
year 2024. DE M-SHORAD is a 50kW-class laser prototype weapon system--
integrated onto a Stryker platform--that protects divisions and brigade 
combat teams from Group 1-3 Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), rotary-
wing aircraft, and indirect fire threats. These directed energy weapons 
are paired with kinetic weapons to form an integrated and layered 
defense.
    Second, the Army will also deliver 300kW-class High Energy Laser 
(HEL) and High Power Microwave (HPM) prototype weapon systems in fiscal 
year 2024 as part of the Indirect Fires Protection Capability (IFPC) 
battery to support multi-domain operations. As part of tiered and 
layered defense for fixed and semi-fixed sites, IFPC-HEL and -HPM are 
designed to counter threats by Group 1-3 UASs, rotary- and fixed-wing 
aircraft, indirect fire, and Group 1-2 UAS swarms.
    Third, in support of the Joint Force and as part of the Army's role 
as Executive Agent for Counter small-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-
sUAS), the Army fielded a 10kW capability in June 2022 for deployment 
OCONUS. This capability is focused on countering threats by Group 1-3 
UASs, rotary- and fixed-wing aircraft, and enemy indirect fire 
capabilities. This 10kW capability will be followed by a 20kW 
capability by the end of this year.
                                 unclos
    9. Senator King. General McConville, do you support the 
ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea 
(UNCLOS)?
    General McConville. National security depends on the global 
mobility of U.S. forces, which in turn depends on the navigational 
freedoms protected by the Law of the Sea. The Army will continue to 
operate within the international legal parameters set by existing law 
and treaties approved by Congress.
                           drug interdiction
    10. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, what coordination is currently 
underway by the HQDA with the ONDCP to stem the flow of illegal drugs 
into the United States?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Department of the Army Headquarters does not 
directly coordinate with the Office of National Drug Control Policy 
(ONDCP). The coordination between the Department of Defense and ONDCP 
is conducted at the Office of the Secretary of Defense-Policy level or 
at the geographic combatant command level.

    11. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what 
operations, exercises, capabilities acquisitions, or other efforts are 
planned this year in the Western Hemisphere to secure the homeland and 
build partner capacity to help with the war on drugs?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The U.S. Army currently 
employs Security Force Assistance (SFA) teams in Central and South 
America that train and advise partner nation security forces. Operating 
under title 10, section 321 authorities, the SFA teams assist their 
counterparts in command and control, training management, leader 
development, intelligence analysis, logistics, and communications. The 
partner nations utilize this training to assist in their efforts at 
countering narcotics trafficking (CNT) and Transnational Criminal 
Organizations (TCOs). Section 321 requires all training conducted by 
U.S. forces be in the national security interest of the U.S., as well 
as the primary purpose being to train U.S. forces.
    The U.S. Army supported several exercises in fiscal year 2022 
focused on building partner nation interoperability, readiness, and 
confidence across the region. The recent Central America (CENTAM) 
GUARDIAN 22 Command Post Exercise (CPX) focused on the tri-border area 
of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. The CPX built capability, 
capacity, and effectiveness for combating common threats, to include 
cross-border smuggling and illicit drug trafficking.
    To assist partner nation efforts at countering TCO activities, the 
U.S. Army intelligence enterprise gathers and processes information, 
which is then passed to U.S. embassies. Army theater intelligence 
collection assets, forward deployed analysts, and protection 
detachments all support these efforts. Additionally, the U.S. Army 
conducts several subject matter expert exchanges and border security 
tabletop exercises which foster collaboration, assist in improving the 
management of intelligence tasks, and increase the professionalism of 
partner nation intelligence capabilities.
                            china commission
    12. Senator King. I believe we must establish an unbiased and non-
partisan commission to examine a grand strategy for our approach to 
China, similar in intent to President Eisenhower's Solarium Project. We 
need to think of a holistic approach to create a stable international 
order in which China (or Russia) cannot dictate regional developments.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, in order to avoid the United 
States trying to ``spend our way out of conflict,'' how can we 
specifically counter China's major activities in your area of 
responsibility?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army can and is 
investing in low to moderate cost capabilities and activities that are 
integrated with allies and partners and which generate high returns on 
investment in support of the Joint Force to counter the People's 
Republic of China's (PRC) aggression in the Indo-Pacific. These 
investments focus on exercises and activities in support of OPERATION 
PATHWAYS, which allows the Army to deepen our integration with our 
allies and partners to help them secure their own interests, grow and 
mature our bilateral and multilateral interoperability, and improve our 
logistics and sustainment capabilities west of the international date 
line.
    There are also modernization efforts underway to significantly 
expand integrated air and missile defense capabilities in the AOR. 
Using our Long-range hypersonic weapons, mid-range capability and 
Precision Strike Missile - all of which we will begin fielding in 
fiscal year 2023, the Army has the ability to interdict fires across 
sea lines of communication, suppress enemy air defenses, and provide 
counter fires against mobile targets.
    These moderate investments position joint enabling capabilities 
closer to the point of need to counter China's major activities inside 
the first and second island chains. In addition, the Army has completed 
classified assessments on these investments and activities.

    13. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what would 
be the greatest benefit this commission could deliver?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Department does not 
currently have a position on the creation of a commission, but DOD 
works with various partners across the U.S. Government to achieve 
national security priorities.

    14. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what would 
put us in the best position to avoid the U.S. and China from escalating 
conflict and careening into a war with China?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. China, specifically Xi 
Jinping, must believe that the risks of going to war with the U.S. 
outweigh the benefits. The U.S. can avoid war with China by credibly 
proving that we, with and through our allies and partners, can and will 
position and employ key military capabilities west of the international 
date line that deter the PRC from risking aggressive behavior that 
elevates the potential of conflict and war. Clearly demonstrating the 
ability and willingness to position and employ credible military power 
in concert with our allies and partners will influence the PRC's 
assessment of the folly of entering a war and escalating conflict. This 
approach should also be taken in tandem with appropriate diplomatic, 
economic and informational efforts made by our interagency partners, 
diplomats, and their counterparts in ally and partner nations.

    15. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what are 
the `toughest problems' OUTSIDE of military imbalances?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. There are three 
difficult, non-military problems with potential long-term impacts 
involving the Army's preparations to support and enable the Joint Force 
in the Indo-Pacific for a war with China.

    1.  The overall American ability and societal willingness to 
increase our wartime industrial capacity/production (organic industrial 
base) for a protracted conflict with China.

    2.  American supply chain security and resiliency, ranging from key 
industrial components and to basic daily staples for the American 
public.

    3.  Cybersecurity capacity and capability outside of the Department 
of Defense information technology systems and networks that assures 
Army force projection capabilities.
                                 arctic
    16. Senator King. I supported Senator Sullivan's Arctic Security 
Initiative amendment last year, and helped get it into law with the 
Chairman.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what specific resource 
shortfalls do our armed forces currently possess that would limit its 
ability to conduct exercises/operations in the High North? Please be 
specific to include operations and sustainment funding for exercises, 
equipment shortfalls such as weather gear for soldiers or unique 
platforms.
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. As part of implementing 
the 2021 Army Arctic Strategy, the Army is continuing to refocus and 
prioritize our efforts to improve Arctic capability. The Army's fiscal 
year 2023 Budget requested $102 million in support of the Arctic 
Strategy: $24 million for Cold Weather All-Terrain Vehicle (CATV), $25 
million for winterization of equipment, $13 million for exportable 
combat training center (CTC) support, and $40 million for 
organizational clothing and individual equipment (OCIE). With this 
funding we will be able to continue execution of our exportable CTC 
capability, field CATVs to units beginning in fiscal year 2023, and 
mitigate some shortfalls in clothing and individual equipment. If not 
funded, the Arctic Strategy will be hindered by the lack of proper 
equipment and will impact overall readiness.
    Additionally, it will be unable to outfit all soldiers assigned to 
train in or deploy to arctic environments elevating risk to soldier 
safety. The Army will continue to assess readiness for Arctic 
operations through the winter training program for its newest division, 
the 11th Airborne Division. Future development of this division and its 
supporting brigade combat teams will inform modernization efforts to 
build Arctic capability to meet future threats.
                       small business challenges
    17. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, the current strain on supply 
chain and effects of COVID have had an adverse impact on small 
businesses, especially those that negotiated fixed price contracts in 
the last 2 years. Inflation rates in those contracts were in many cases 
negotiated at 2 percent. The current cost of raw material (and labor) 
has increased drastically since 2020. On average the material prices 
have increased 31 percent but key materials like steel, resin and 
fiberglass that our Maine composites industries have increased at a 
much higher rate. What is the Army doing to help acquisition officials 
including providing program managers greater flexibility in cost 
adjustments?
    Secretary Wormuth, what is the Army doing to help small businesses 
navigate this challenging environment?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is closely monitoring any impacts due 
to the current inflationary environment. Inflationary impacts will vary 
based on the size and health of the contractor, the types of supplies 
and services and the type of contract. Small businesses are most 
affected and may not be able to deliver at all due to the increased 
costs of materials and labor. We are reviewing each impacted contract 
and determining appropriate remedies based on the specific facts of 
that case and challenges presented to small businesses. For example, 
the extension of required delivery dates and the reduction of required 
quantities.

    18. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, what authorities does the Army 
require to provide options to program managers and contracting officers 
with better flexibility to address these challenges, especially in the 
case of small businesses?
    Secretary Wormuth. At this time, the Army can manage the 
inflationary impacts with its current authorities. When executing new 
contracts, program managers and contracting officers will consider 
different contract types, shorter periods of performance, and the use 
of economic price adjustment clauses to mitigate the impacts of 
inflation, including those to small businesses.
                       sexual assault prevention
    19. Senator King. Secretary Wormuth, the Air National Guard 
Director, recently spoke to me about the ``Prevention Workforce 
Program'' in order to better address sexual assault and harassment 
cases in the Air National Guard. Is the Department of the Army 
implementing a similar program for the Army National Guard? If not, is 
there a similar program in place?
    Secretary Wormuth. The National Guard Bureau is implementing a 
joint Prevention Workforce Program to serve both Army National Guard 
(ARNG) and Air National Guard (ANG) servicemembers. The program is 
being implemented in two phases, with 28 states and territories 
starting in fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 2023, and the remaining 26 
in fiscal year 2024.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                         army medical research
    20. Senator Inhofe. The National Defense Authorization Acts for 
fiscal years 2019 and 2020 included provisions to transition the United 
States Army Medical Research and Materiel Command to the Defense Health 
Agency no later than September 30, 2022.
    General McConville, is the Army committed to completing the 
transition in accordance with the requirements and timeline set forth 
in the National Defense Authorization Act?
    General McConville. Yes, the Army remains committed to continued 
partnership and collaboration during this transition. However, on 21 
April 2022, the Army submitted a legislative proposal to Congress for 
the Army to retain elements of the U.S. Army Medical Research and 
Development (MRDC) that closely support the Army's Title 10 
authorities. MRDC and the leadership of the Defense Health Agency are 
engaged in multiple transition meetings to comply with existing law and 
to meet the statutory timelines and will comply with any potential 
statutory changes. The Army is committed to the success of DHA and 
fulfilling title 10 authorities.

    21. Senator Inhofe. General McConville, is the Army committed to 
providing continued leadership with the necessary subject matter 
expertise at the General Officer level to the Defense Health Agency 
Research and Engineering Directorate to complete the transition of the 
United States Army Medical Research and Materiel Command as required by 
law?
    General McConville. Yes.
                            ground vehicles
    22. Senator Inhofe. The overall fiscal year 2023 defense budget 
makes important investments into autonomous platforms including in the 
next generation fighting vehicles, the optionally manned fighting 
vehicle, and unmanned surface vehicles.
    General McConville, what role do you see autonomous weapon systems 
playing in future ground combat?
    General McConville. I believe autonomous systems will be 
increasingly employed to reduce risk to soldiers or to accomplish the 
same tasks with fewer soldiers in harm's way. For example, autonomous 
reconnaissance platforms (both air and ground) can be employed to scout 
in front of maneuvering forces, to identify where the enemy is or is 
not, or to conduct economy of force operations where the threat of 
enemy action is reduced. Autonomous capabilities may also be able to 
conduct dangerous and complex operations, such as mine clearing or the 
breaching of obstacles to optimize maneuver force operations and reduce 
risks to the force.

    23. Senator Inhofe. General McConville, how do we ensure these 
systems are operations ready to fight a near-peer conflict and our 
forces fully training to execute combat operations in that scenario?
    General McConville. Experimentation and training are key to 
ensuring autonomous capabilities can perform assigned tasks and that 
soldiers and leaders know how to best employ and sustain them.

    24. Senator Inhofe. General McConville, what steps are being taken 
to develop trust in these autonomous systems with both the warfighter 
and the American public?
    General McConville. Developing trust in autonomous systems is a 
matter of experimentation and training. Soldiers and leaders will 
develop confidence in autonomous capabilities with the more first-hand 
experience they have. If soldiers and leaders trust the autonomous 
capabilities of these systems, I believe the American public will too.

    25. Senator Inhofe. General McConville, according to the GAO, close 
to 4,000 warfighters died due accidents in legacy ground systems 
between fiscal year 2010 and fiscal year 2019. What are we doing to 
increase both the safety and combat survivability and capability of 
these legacy systems to include autonomous upgrades?
    General McConville. Soldier health and safety is a top priority, 
and the Army is committed to improving soldier safety and enhancing 
force protection through multiple programs. Recognizing that the 
majority of these tragic incidents involve the Army's light tactical 
vehicle (LTV) fleet, the Army is prioritizing modernization of its High 
Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs), through the Joint 
Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) program. Every JLTV--unlike their 
predecessors--will come equipped with an anti-lock braking system and 
electronic vehicle control (ABS/ESC), integrated front and rear cameras 
to increase driver awareness, and a crew compartment that enables 
increased survivability in the event of an accident. The competitive 
contract for the JLTV is purposely intended to incentivize industry and 
bring additional driver enhancement technologies into the enduring 
solution. Concerning the legacy HMMWV, important efforts underway 
include retrofitting the field with ABS/ ESC kits which became standard 
after 2018. This technology, also commercially available, directly 
mitigates rollover accidents and their corresponding risk of fatal or 
serious injury to crew members. The Army is also piloting an effort to 
integrate autonomous capabilities on the Palletized Load System (a 
different section of the Army's wheeled vehicle fleet) in order to 
reduce risk to personnel during logistics missions.
                                ukraine
    26. Senator Inhofe. As the world has watched what was considered a 
superior conventional fighting force, the Russian military, struggle to 
execute offensive operations against a smaller and technologically 
inferior Ukraine military, many experts are looking to see if there are 
lessons the United States can learn from this war. We know Russian 
logistics was a complete failure and the Ukrainian people's will to 
fight has imposed a heavy cost on Russian forces.
    General McConville, from a technology viewpoint, what lessons have 
you learned from this war - command and control, platform vs network-
centric warfare, use of artificial intelligence and autonomy and modern 
vs legacy systems?
    General McConville. Command and Control: Events continue to confirm 
the importance of interoperability between joint and partner networks 
and systems, and the impact that a lack of interoperability can have on 
all warfighting functions. Observation of Russian command and control 
challenges reinforces the Army's need to create a modernized, 
integrated network that will enable our commanders and forces to 
achieve a holistic picture of the modern battlefield and enable a 
united joint and multi-national force to cut through the fog of war and 
make informed decisions, quickly. The Army remains on a path to create 
a unified network, which will converge and secure separate networks 
into a modern, integrated global NIPR, SIPR, and MPE environment.
    Platforms v. Network-centric: The Army has also observed the 
importance of operationalizing data, including the value of hybrid 
solutions for data and application hosting, where operational elements 
must have access to both local and off-site computing and data storage 
capabilities. The military, federal government and our partners will 
benefit from a dedicated focus on achieving an informational advantage 
built on resilient ``zero trust'' unified networks and data platforms 
with analytics for decision making, command and control, and reliable 
strategic reach-back. A combined capability set hosted locally will 
also provide higher analytic processing power, granting a tactical 
advantage through its use of faster network-centric solutions and 
enabling commanders to make decisions more rapidly than adversaries.
    Artificial Intelligence (AI) & Autonomous: The Army and the Joint 
force have observed some basic uses of artificial intelligence (AI) and 
autonomous-enabled systems by the Russian military, similar to 
observations made in Syria and other conflicts over the past decade. 
These observations include Russian use of autonomous drones to enable 
more accurate targeting and the use of AI-enabled internet technologies 
to enhance Russian dis- and mis-information campaigns. Our Army 
continues to dedicate efforts to observe, orient, and react to these 
systems, including through our counter unmanned aircraft systems (C-
UAS) capabilities, information advantage efforts, and in cyberspace.
    Modern v. Legacy Systems: We have watched the Ukrainians leverage 
commercial technology, innovate with their legacy systems, and quickly 
adapt to use modern technology and services. Likewise, the U.S. Army 
and our allies are integrating legacy programs with new technology and 
commercial services to enhance intelligence, surveillance and 
reconnaissance (ISR) and situational awareness, shorten the speed and 
range of military effects, and enable quick reaction capabilities. The 
Ukrainian forces are adapting fast, and our Army is moving quickly to 
apply those lessons at scale.
    Logistics: At the forefront of lessons observed and learned is 
Russia's failed logistical performance across the spectrum of 
operations. Logistics is the foundation that projects and sustains 
warfighting capabilities. Logistics conducted at speed and at scale 
enables the warfighting capabilities to initiate and maintain momentum 
against the adversary, especially in a protracted conflict. The lessons 
learned from the Russian invasion of Ukraine reiterates the importance 
of our logisticians, sustained investments in replenishment, and the 
continued evolution in logistical doctrine to maintain the Army's 
ability to project and sustain globally.
                    counter unmanned aerial systems
    27. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Shyu and the White House Science & 
Technology Offices have prioritized of directed energy capabilities, 
and specifically high power microwave technological development.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, how is this being carried 
over to the development and execution of Army's Defense Strategy?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The U.S. Army Rapid 
Capabilities and Critical Technologies Offices (RCCTO) is focused on 
directed energy efforts, including Directed Energy Maneuver Short Range 
Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD), Indirect Fires Protection Capability (IFPC), 
High Energy Laser (HEL), and High Power Microwave (HPM). Specific to 
the HPM, the Army--in coordination with the Joint Counter-small 
Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office (JCO)--is evaluating capabilities and 
lessons learned from the deployment of the Air Force's Tactical High 
Power Microwave Operational Responder (THOR), as well as recent 
industry demonstrations at Yuma Proving Grounds, to inform Army 
decisions on a HPM prototype weapon system. The Army projects that 
IFPC-HEL and IFPC-HPM will be delivered in fiscal year 2024 as part of 
a tiered and layered defense capability for fixed and semi-fixed sites, 
against Group 1-3 Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS), rotary- and fixed-wing 
aircraft, indirect fire, and Group 1-2 UAS swarm threats.

    28. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, how are 
Directed Energy systems being leveraged to meet the priority threats 
and the capabilities of the competition?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is currently 
executing three Directed Energy programs. First, the Directed Energy 
Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD) is on track to deliver 
its first combat-capable platoon of directed energy weapon systems in 
the 4th Quarter of fiscal year 2022 and will continue delivering 
prototypes in fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024. DE M-SHORAD is a 
50kW-class laser prototype weapon system--integrated onto a Stryker 
platform--that protects divisions and brigade combat teams from Group 
1-3 Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), rotary-wing aircraft, and indirect 
fire threats. These directed energy weapons are paired with kinetic 
weapons to form an integrated and layered defense.
    Second, the Army will also deliver 300kW-class High Energy Laser 
(HEL) and High Power Microwave (HPM) prototype weapon systems in fiscal 
year 2024 as part of the Indirect Fires Protection Capability (IFPC) 
battery to support multi-domain operations. As part of tiered and 
layered defense for fixed and semi-fixed sites, IFPC-HEL and -HPM are 
designed to counter threats by Group 1-3 UASs, rotary- and fixed-wing 
aircraft, indirect fire, and Group 1-2 UAS swarms.
    Third, in support of the Joint Force and as part of the Army's role 
as Executive Agent for Counter small-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-
sUAS), the Army fielded a 10kW capability in June 2022 for deployment 
OCONUS. This capability is focused on countering threats by Group 1-3 
UASs, rotary- and fixed-wing aircraft, and enemy indirect fire 
capabilities. This 10kW capability will be followed by a 20kW 
capability by the end of this year.
    Our adversaries and non-state actors alike are rapidly 
proliferating the development and execution of Unmanned Aerial Systems 
(UAS) that pose a real threat to U.S. forces and infrastructure.

    29. Senator Inhofe. Our adversaries and non-state actors alike are 
rapidly proliferating the development and execution of Unmanned Aerial 
Systems (UAS) that pose a real threat to U.S. forces and 
infrastructure.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, is the Army seeing an 
increase in UAS overflight over its personnel and installation in the 
United States and overseas?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The number of documented 
Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) overflights has increased in both the 
U.S. and at our overseas installations. In turn, increased training and 
fielding of UAS detection systems have enhanced our awareness of the 
UAS threat and the Army's need for continued observation both at home 
and abroad. As directed by the Joint Staff's Small Unmanned Aircraft 
Systems Reporting Execute Order, the Army is reporting UAS incidents in 
a single joint database for documentation and enhanced analysis.

    30. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, what 
actions is the Army taking to defend against UAS threats?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. As the DOD Executive 
Agent for Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-sUAS), the Army 
established the Joint C-sUAS Office (JCO) to lead the development and 
integration of emerging Joint C-sUAS capabilities, emphasizing rapid 
innovation, the synchronization of material and non-materiel solutions, 
and fostering partnerships.
    As one of its first actions, the JCO conducted an operational 
assessment of current C-sUAS capabilities and selected ten initial 
Joint C-sUAS systems--which are already proving their effectiveness to 
detect and defeat fixed-wing and quad-copter style sUAS attacks. 
Additionally, the JCO published the first-ever DOD C-sUAS Strategy and 
its associated implementation plan and released joint C-sUAS 
operational requirements to address current and future C-sUAS 
capabilities. Further, the JCO and all military services are working 
closely with the Army Fires Center of Excellence to establish joint 
training and doctrine required to enhance C-sUAS operations.
    Additionally, the JCO is also working with industry leaders to 
modernize current capabilities. As part of this effort, the JCO and 
partner agencies across all services host semi-annual industry 
demonstrations to evaluate emerging technologies that close gaps, 
inform requirements, and promote innovation. The JCO's Rapid Response 
Team is also supporting combatant commanders with in-depth analyses of 
the operational threat environment and providing these commands with 
materiel and non-materiel recommendations that reflect C-sUAS best 
practices.
    The Army is also continuing development of specific programs to 
mitigate specific capability gaps concerning the defense of fixed/semi-
fixed sites and mounted or dismounted configurations. As the efforts 
mature, the Army will continue to inform this committee of our 
progress.

    31. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, how is 
the Army addressing the UAS threat from the top-down?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army continues to 
validate, plan, and source counter-small unmanned aircraft systems (C-
sUAS) capability requirements in support of contingency operations 
around the world. The Army remains focused on providing critical C-sUAS 
capability to divisions in the operational force, while also growing 
protection of vital fixed and semi-fixed sites in accordance with 
current requirements. With a goal of accelerating the procurement and 
fielding of C-sUAS Division Sets to the operational force, the Army has 
programmed funds to begin this effort in fiscal year 2022.
    Beyond our service-specific efforts to address the unmanned 
aircraft systems threat, the Army also serves as the Department of 
Defense's OS Executive Agent for C-sUAS. In this role, and through the 
Joint C-sUAS Office (JCO), the Army leads and directs the development 
of joint doctrine, requirements, materiel, and training efforts. The 
Army's efforts to identify and develop solutions within a joint 
architecture enhances warfighter capabilities across the DOD.

    32. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, is the 
Army looking at utilizing directed energy, to include lasers and high 
power microwave technology, for base security and integration on Army 
ground vehicles?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Yes. The Army is 
developing directed energy capabilities for base security, maneuver 
fire protection, and for integration onto Army ground vehicles.
    The Army is currently executing three Directed Energy programs. 
First, the Directed Energy Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-
SHORAD) is on track to deliver its first combat-capable platoon of four 
prototype directed energy weapon systems in fiscal year 2022. DE M-
SHORAD is a 50kW-class laser prototype weapon system integrated onto a 
Stryker platform, that protects division and brigade combat teams from 
Group 1-3 Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), rotary-wing aircraft, and 
indirect fire threats. These directed energy weapons are designed to be 
paired with kinetic weapons for an integrated and layered defense.
    Second, as part of a tiered and layered defense of fixed and semi-
fixed sites, the Army will also deliver 300kW-class High Energy Laser 
(HEL) and High Power Microwave (HPM) prototype weapon systems in fiscal 
year 2024 as part of the Indirect Fires Protection Capability (IFPC) 
battery to support Multi-Domain Operations (MDO). The threat set 
addressed by IFPC-HEL is Group 1-3 UAS, rotary- and fixed-wing 
aircraft, and indirect fire. The threat set addressed by IFPC-HPM is 
Group 1-2 UAS swarms.
    Third, in support of the Joint Force and as part of the Army's role 
of the Executive Agent for Counter small-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-
sUAS), the Army fielded a 10kWatt capability in June 2022 for 
deployment OCONUS. Focused on Groups 1-3 UAS, this fielding will be 
followed by a 20kWatt capability by the end of this year.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
              army futures command successful transitions
    33. Senator Cotton. Ms. Wormuth, Army Futures Command routinely 
touts its success stories in terms of the amount of dollars let in 
contracts or opening new offices to interface with small and innovative 
businesses. Can you provide a specific example of a contract that Army 
Futures Command let which has transitioned into a program of record?
    Secretary Wormuth. Several of the 31 signature modernization 
efforts are now programs of record or about to be so, including Army 
Integrated Air and Missile Defense, Maneuver Short Range Air Defense, 
Indirect Fire Protection Capability, Lower-Tier Air and Missile Defense 
Sensor, Precision Strike Missile, and the Next Generation Squad Weapon.
             large maneuver element training opportunities
    34. Senator Cotton. General McConville, one of the constant 
critiques of our adversaries is their major exercises are scripted so 
the commanders always win. Can you tell me--without any caveats--that 
our major exercises are not scripted at both the operational and 
tactical levels, including providing training opportunities for 
soldiers at all echelons, including Brigade, Corps, and Division 
Commanders?
    General McConville. Army major exercises are not scripted so that 
commanders always win. Combat Training Center (CTC) rotations and 
Warfighter Exercises (WFXs) remain the Army's premier collective 
training event for brigade, division, and corps commanders and their 
respective staffs, and offer realistic and demanding training designed 
to build readiness and train Mission Command during Large Scale Combat 
Operations (LSCO) in a contested operating environment across all 
domains. Simulating LSCO in an environment contested across all 
domains, actions by free-thinking opposing forces ensure that 
operational and tactical success is never guaranteed.
                        low-cost tactical radio
    35. Senator Cotton. General McConville, the 1980s SINCGARS radios 
are breaking down and are unreliable. All the modernization in the 
world won't help if we can't talk to each other. I would hate to see 
our soldiers on social media using commercial walkie-talkies like the 
Russians are. Is the amount of money you requested for the low-cost 
tactical radio replacement enough to fix this problem in a relevant 
timeframe?
    General McConville. The Army fiscal year 2023 budget request 
reflects our strategy to replace legacy SINCGARS radios and provide a 
modernized replacement in a relevant timeframe. This modernization 
strategy, funded in the President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request at 
$907 million, includes a mix of platforms that contribute to the Army's 
cryptographic modernization efforts and enable a resilient, adaptable 
network in the multi-domain environment.
                  over-classification of capabilities
    36. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, there is tension between the 
strategy of ``integrated deterrence'' and the security apparatus 
purposefully designed to prevent integration of exquisite capabilities. 
What is your plan to ensure the right people, not only soldiers and 
civilians in the Army but also people in other services, outside of 
higher headquarters buildings, have access to the information they need 
to plan, test, and train with our high-end but classified capabilities?
    Secretary Wormuth. Officials responsible for the development and 
fielding of Army systems follow information security policies required 
by Executive Order 13526, as implemented by the Department of Defense. 
If a particular system contains information that requires protection as 
classified national security information, the Army adheres to 
requirements mandated by the Executive Order, federal regulations and 
DOD policy. Further, Department of Defense issues policies to establish 
eligibility for personnel who may require access to classified 
information. The Army grants access to those who have a clearance and a 
need to know, in order to ensure the right people have the information 
they need to plan, test, and train with our high-end, classified 
capabilities.
                     tactical vehicle safety pilot
    37. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, I want to ask you a question 
about tactical vehicle safety. It has come to my attention that over 
the last five years, the Army has averaged four fatalities and $73 
million in property damage per year due to tactical vehicle accidents, 
not to mention the countless associated non-fatal injuries. While I 
believe the Army has a good understanding of the principal causes of 
tactical vehicle mishaps, I am uncertain that they or the Marines have 
fully explored innovative approaches that could reduce their 
occurrence. Recognizing that operator behavior is a significant 
contributor to tactical vehicle accidents, what are your thoughts about 
a limited pilot program using data recording devices to help identify 
and alter risky operator behavior before an accident occurs?
    Secretary Wormuth. While Army tactical vehicle fatalities are 
currently historically quite low, one accident is too many as we value 
every soldier who has stepped forward to serve our Nation. A key 
component to reducing the risk of tactical vehicle accidents is 
training,
    leadership, and personal responsibility, which coincides with our 
development and implementation of an improved driver's training program 
designed to prevent vehicle accidents. A limited pilot program would 
likely not yield new data, or would merely confirm what we already know 
from assessing past accidents. Additionally, the use of data recording 
devices would be prohibitively expensive if employed across the force. 
That said, the Army is prioritizing modernization of its High Mobility 
Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs), through the Joint Light 
Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) program. Every JLTV--unlike their 
predecessors--will come equipped with an anti-lock braking system and 
electronic vehicle control (ABS/ESC), integrated front and rear cameras 
to increase driver awareness, and a crew compartment that enables 
increased survivability in the event of an accident. The competitive 
contract for the JLTV is purposely intended to incentivize industry and 
bring additional driver enhancement technologies into the enduring 
solution. Concerning the legacy HMMWV, important efforts underway 
include retrofitting the field with ABS/ ESC kits which became standard 
after 2018. This technology, also commercially available, directly 
mitigates rollover accidents and their corresponding risk of fatal or 
serious injury to crew members. The Army is also piloting an effort to 
integrate autonomous capabilities on the Palletized Load System (a 
different section of the Army's wheeled vehicle fleet) in order to 
reduce risk to personnel during logistics missions.

    38. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, understanding that we won't 
be able to prevent all accidents, is there evidence or analysis that 
data recording devices couldn't be leveraged to help leaders identify 
and influence risky operator behavior?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army has considered installing data 
recording devices in its ground vehicles to help identify risky 
behavior. However, to be cyber-acceptable, these devices would carry a 
significant cost and the data recorded would be relatively minimal 
(speed at impact, etc.). The U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development 
Command (DEVCOM) Analysis Center recently assessed it would cost 
approximately $20 million to install the devices in 0.5 percent of Army 
vehicles for a 2-year pilot program, an outlay that might not lead to 
any conclusive data, and therefore provide no appreciable benefit to 
leaders. In lieu of such devices, the Army views continued safety and 
driver's training, leadership involvement, personal responsibility, and 
accountability measures as the keys to continued improvement in driver 
attentiveness, decision making ability, and conduct.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                united states army housing modernization
    39. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth, last December, I sent a 
letter to your office regarding the modernization of substandard 
barracks for our Ft. Bragg Soldiers. I strongly believe that adequate 
housing is essential for maintaining Army readiness and maintaining the 
health and well-being of servicemembers. I also believe that Fort Bragg 
remains the ``tip of the spear'' for the Department of Defense. Can you 
speak to the Army's modernization efforts with regard to soldiers' 
housing; what improvements have been made thus far and what further 
plans for improvement do you have upcoming?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is working to address unaccompanied 
housing (UH) requirements within a holistic Army Barracks Strategy. As 
part of this strategy, the Army has funded ten UH restoration and 
modernization (R&M) projects at Fort Bragg from fiscal years 2018-2021 
for $102.8 million to address 1,154 bed spaces; two of the fiscal year 
2018 projects are complete and the remaining eight projects are 
ongoing. In fiscal year 2022, the Army plans to award three R&M UH 
projects ($45.9 million/356 bed spaces) at Fort Bragg. Going forward, 
the current Army Facilities Investment Plan includes 22 R&M UH projects 
($210.4 million/2,988 bed spaces) and one military construction UH 
replacement project ($32 million/144 bed spaces) during fiscal years 
2023-2030. The Army looks to accelerate all barracks renovation and 
construction projects to the extent possible.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                        service member screening
    40. Senator Sullivan. General McConville, last month, I conducted a 
town hall at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson and Fort Wainwright where 
I spoke with behavioral health providers, military spouses, and junior 
enlisted soldier and NCOs about the issues they are facing in Alaska. 
There were several consistent themes throughout these discussions, one 
of which is proper screening and preparation for being stationed in 
Alaska. This was something you touched on briefly in our conversation 
yesterday, telling me, ``we have to get the right people up there who 
will thrive in that environment.'' Does the Army specially screen 
servicemembers for service in Alaska?
    General McConville. Several programs are already in place to 
identify soldiers, noncommissioned officers, and officers who are well-
suited for Alaska assignments.
    a.  The ``Option 20'' initiative allows initial entry soldiers, 
based on their preference, to enlist for assignments in Alaska. Due to 
unit type and composition, Skill Level 1 Soldiers constitute a 
significant percentage (over 56 percent) of the assigned strength of 
the two Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs) in Alaska. Therefore, excluding 
first-term soldiers from cold weather locales may negatively impact 
unit readiness.
    b.  NCOs and Officers leverage the Assignment Satisfaction Key--
Enlisted Module (ASK-EM), and Assignment Interactive Module 2 (AIM2) 
marketplaces, directly to interact with units to ensure suitable 
candidates are assigned to Alaska-based units.
    Of note, HIPAA prevents Human Resources Command from screening 
soldiers for past or ongoing behavioral health treatment prior to 
assigning them to an Alaska-based unit. The law protects disclosure of 
individually identifiable health information, such as an individual's 
past or current physical or mental health condition, in most 
circumstances. Soldiers with ongoing mental health treatment or other 
medical conditions should consult their medical health provider to 
ensure that they can receive the appropriate treatment at their new 
duty station.

    41. Senator Sullivan. General McConville, if the Army does not 
screen servicemembers for service in Alaska, will you commit to looking 
into the implementation of a screening process?
    General McConville. Yes, the Army is willing to assess and support 
feasible and legal policy decisions for comprehensive screening 
implementation to ensure the right soldiers are matched for the right 
assignments.

    42. Senator Sullivan. General McConville, does the Army make 
special exceptions for those servicemembers who seek to remain 
stationed in Alaska?
    General McConville. In fiscal year 2022, an Army retention policy 
added a $10,000 incentive to soldier's reenlistment bonus provided they 
were both assigned to Alaska, or Forts Bliss, Drum, Irwin, Polk, Riley 
and they reenlisted for current station stabilization. The locations 
mentioned had reenlistment rates below the Army average of 13 percent 
for fiscal year 2021 and they were the least requested locations by 
soldiers in the Assignment Satisfaction Key-Enlisted Module. All 
indications are that this incentive program is working to increase 
retention in critical skills at less desirable locations. Additionally, 
over the last six months the Army's enlistment incentive program 
guaranteed assignment requests to Forts Polk, Riley, Drum, Hood, Bliss 
and Alaska. Army Reserve personnel also utilize the Army Reserve 
soldier assignment profile to better align soldier preferences in 
conjunction with the Army's requirements to fill positions.

    43. Senator Sullivan. General McConville, as you are aware, the 
Army has an overseas re-enlistment option which guarantees a 12- or 24-
month assignment to areas outside the contiguous United States, to 
include Alaska. Has this program had much success?
    General McConville. Active Army soldiers utilize Option 4 (Overseas 
Reenlistment Option) to reenlist for an overseas assignment of choice. 
In fiscal year 2022, approximately 16 percent of soldiers stabilized at 
their current overseas assignment while approximately 9 percent of 
soldiers reenlisted for an overseas assignment of choice. Specifically, 
for Alaska, soldiers had a 67 percent increase in overseas 
stabilization rates from fiscal year 2021 to fiscal year 2022.
                        fiscal year 2023 budget
    44. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth, the recently released 2022 
National Defense Strategy highlights the threat from the PLA's 
unprecedented military modernization. With an overall real budget cut 
for the Army, including significant reductions in Research and 
Development, do you believe the President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget 
adequately enables the Army to meet strategic competition requirements, 
especially in the Indo-Pacific?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army's budget request enables continued 
transformation to the Army of 2030 force structure initiative. The 
budget request also supports the pivot from the past two decades of 
focus on counterterrorism to an Army that is adapted to meet our top 
pacing challenge of China and the acute threat of Russian aggression. 
The investments requested help the Army meet the National Defense 
Strategy requirements for integrated deterrence, support our active 
campaigning measures, and help us build and maintain an enduring 
advantage over peers and potential adversaries. This budget request 
funds the Army modernization priorities, while simultaneously investing 
in our sustainment facilities, equipment, people, and the Army's 
organic industrial base.
    This budget request will allow the Army to deliver our hypersonic 
long-range weapon prototypes and leverage existing missile technology 
to deliver a Mid-Range Capability prototype. We are transforming the 
force by fielding our third Multi-Domain Task Force, which integrates 
fires, cyber, electronic warfare, and information warfare capabilities 
in an unprecedented way. The request continues to provide investment in 
Project Convergence 22, which allows for experimentation and exercises 
with partners and allies to help promote interoperability of our weapon 
systems. It supports the continued rotations of our Security Force 
Assistance Brigades to build partner capacity. The request also funds 
Pacific Pathway exercises in the Indo-Pacific and Defender Europe 
exercises to assure our allies and partners across the regions.

    45. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth, our authoritarian 
adversaries continue to expand their military capabilities, many of our 
service branches are heading in the wrong direction and shrinking. Just 
this year, the Army's end strength will be reduced by 12,000 soldiers. 
While I understand there is a labor shortage throughout the entire 
country at this time, we still must find ways to compete and expand our 
ranks. What is the Army's strategy to increase recruiting and retention 
to bolster end-strength?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army, like other services, is facing the 
most challenging recruiting market in the last 20 years. In fiscal year 
2022, Army recruiters are challenged by a tight labor market, a 
decrease in the propensity of the American population to serve 
(currently at 9 percent, lowest since 2007), and a shrinking pool of 
qualified military applicants (only 23 percent of youth (17 to 24) are 
eligible to enlist in the military without a waiver, down from 29 
percent in recent years).
    The Army has achieved nearly 40 percent of its enlisted recruiting 
mission for fiscal year 2022. This is an unprecedented year, but the 
4th quarter is typically when we achieve the majority of our total 
mission goals following high school graduation.
    We do expect these recruiting market headwinds to persist, so the 
Army is improving how we recruit in this new market environment. In 
March 2022, the Army began a comprehensive review and analysis of our 
accessions enterprise, recruiting policy, organizational structure, and 
marketing practices. Recommendations for this review, coupled with 
other immediate steps we are taking, will help the Army address 
recruiting challenges and position the Army recruiting for success in 
the future.
    Army senior leaders, at echelon, are fully engaged to identify and 
implement a variety of initiatives. Some examples include the 
following: The Army is ensuring that there is ample funding to apply a 
prudent bonus strategy to attract more prospects. We are applying 
targeted marketing to increase our outreach to young Americans. In a 
2021 survey, the Army found that 75 percent of today's youth know 
little to nothing about the Army (16-28 year olds). The Army's 
marketing office has two new creative campaigns in the market today to 
generate awareness across youth, address the common misperceptions 
about the Army lifestyle, and motivate receptive prospects. We are also 
bringing back former highly successful recruiters from our operating 
force to add experience and depth to our existing recruiting force.
    Additional immediate Army recruiting efforts include:
      The Army is offering flexible 2 to 6 year enlistment 
contracts, including 2 year enlistment in 84 career fields.
      The Army is offering duty station of choice, which means 
future soldiers can opt to select their first duty station after 
training. This provides predictability for the future and some popular 
locations, like Hawaii, Germany, Colorado and Texas (12 duty stations 
included).
      The Buddy Enlistment Program offers an opportunity for 
friends to serve together. Up to five people can go to training 
together and be stationed at the same place for their first assignment.
      The Army is offering up to $50,000 in enlistment 
incentives for new recruits.
      Quick ship bonuses of up to $10,000 are available for 
individuals who can ship within 30 days of signing a contract.
    The Army and our skilled recruiters are working tirelessly to 
inspire and recruit talented, high-quality individuals to meet fiscal 
year 2022's assigned mission. We would like to continue to work hand-
in-hand with Congress to ensure that you are fully informed and to 
share any insights or recommendations about the way forward.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                               energetics
    46. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, how do you intend to 
amend the recently-finalized Army formulating an Organic Industrial 
Base Modernization Plan based on current events in Ukraine?
    Secretary Wormuth. The March 2022 Army Ammunition Plant 
Modernization Plan, which specifically addresses energetics (the 
materials that explode and power projectiles), will be updated 
annually. The next update will be provided to Congress in March 2023, 
per the fiscal year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) 
requirement. The capabilities and infrastructure required to produce 
the munitions provided to Ukraine will be assessed for needed 
modernization resourcing and factored into the next plan accordingly. 
In the meantime, the Army is addressing immediate industrial base needs 
to support Ukraine replenishment within Presidential Drawdown funding.

    47. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, several times throughout 
this plan, it says that projects ``can be executed earlier if 
additional funds become available in any given year.'' Do I have your 
commitment to working with me--and this Committee--to identify those 
projects and move them forward?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, if additional funds become available to the 
Army, I will work with you and the Committee to accelerate projects.

    48. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, how does the fiscal year 
2023 budget contribute to shortening energetics production lead time? 
When will we see a return on investment?
    Secretary Wormuth. The fiscal year 2023 budget does not contain new 
projects that will contribute to shortening energetics production lead 
time; however, we will see a return on investment in fiscal year 2025 
when the explosives capacity expansion at the Holston Army Ammunition 
Plant will be realized, which in turn will result in shortened 
production lead times.

    49. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, how does the crumbling 
infrastructure of facilities like Holston induce risk, represents a 
single point of failure in the munition's enterprise?
    Secretary Wormuth. Holston Army Ammunition Plant (AAP) is the sole 
supplier of high explosives in the United States, so it is critical 
that this facility is modernized and maintained. In order to mitigate 
the risk of supply disruptions, $808 million of modernization 
resourcing is targeted for Holston AAP through fiscal year 2028. This 
investment will repair and improve all of the Holston AAP's core 
capabilities, infrastructure, and support systems.

    50. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, what specific resources 
or authorities will it require to fully modernize Holston? I am 
thinking again of opportunities to move projects forward as identified 
in the Modernization Plan.
    Secretary Wormuth. The March 2022 Army Ammunition Plant (AAP) 
Modernization Plan identifies $808 million to repair and modernize 
Holston AAP through fiscal year 2028. These investments will 
significantly reduce the risk of Holston AAP not being able to meet 
operational needs. As the operating contract for Holston AAP is being 
competed, with a new contract scheduled for award in November 2023, 
moving additional production modernization projects to the left is not 
recommended to avoid encumbering the facility during a potential 
transition to a new operator. However, the fiscal year 2026 ``Upgrade 
Laundry Facility'' ($5.6 million) and the fiscal year 2027 ``Natural 
Gas Pipeline Relocation to Below Holston River'' ($11.6 million) 
projects could be moved to the left if additional resources are 
provided in fiscal year 2023 without significant disruption to the 
facility.

    51. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, what additional 
resourcing or authorities are necessary to meet more stringent 
environmental and regulatory compliance in the production of TATB?
    Secretary Wormuth. No additional resources or authorities are 
necessary for the Army to meet the environmental and regulatory 
requirements to produce Triaminotrinitrobenzene.

    52. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, what additional 
resourcing or authorities are necessary to meet more stringent 
environmental and regulatory compliance in the production of HMX, RDX, 
IMX, and their precursors?
    Secretary Wormuth. Current environmental regulations, high labor 
costs, and inconsistent demand provide a high barrier to establishing 
and maintaining domestic production for some precursors. We are 
actively working on risk mitigation plans for each material. Examples 
of environmentally sensitive materials include nitrates, formaldehyde 
(precursor for hexamine, which is a precursor to HMX and RDX), and 
fluorinated binders such as BDNAP/F (used in the manufacture of 
Insensitive Munition explosives).

    53. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, to what extent do we and 
our allies rely on China for critical energetic materials?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is currently tracking multiple critical 
energetic materials that originate from China. These materials are used 
in the manufacture of Army munitions managed by the Army on behalf of 
the other services and in support of Foreign Military Sales to our 
allies.
                                 milcon
    54. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, considering the Army's 
unfunded military construction requirements amount to $1.4 billion, 
what are the long-term risks if Congress does not immediately address 
the Army's unfunded MILCON requirements?
    General McConville. Our unfunded priorities are a recognition of 
our highest priorities in future years. If these priorities remain 
unfunded, the Army will need to defer these new infrastructure projects 
in order to address current deficits and to replace failing facilities. 
We will continue to prioritize military construction efforts to address 
our highest priority needs and seek opportunities to become more 
efficient in using our current infrastructure. However, with an $81 
billion backlog of maintenance for existing facilities, coupled with a 
deficit of $59 billion in required building square footage, there will 
always be greater funding needed than is available to address 
infrastructure requirements.

    55. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, reports indicate that 
military construction has been hit with 22 percent inflation rates. How 
has inflation impacted the Army's MILCON program?
    General McConville. The Army has less military construction buying 
power in the current economic environment. Rising material and 
transportation costs are causing contractor bids to significantly 
exceed both authorized project costs and the Army's reprogramming 
authority of $2 million above project cost. There are reduced funds 
from bid savings to reprogram for these increased costs, causing the 
Army to cancel or reduce the scope of previously authorized and 
appropriated projects. In addition, due to the volatility of materials' 
cost and availability, many contractors will not hold bids for the time 
necessary to obtain congressional approval of a major reprogramming 
action--even when funds are available. In order to hold bids in place, 
contractors generally include added contingencies for anticipated 
future cost increases.
                             modernization
    56. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Wormuth, how does record-high 
inflation impact the Army's ability to deliver prototypes and continued 
investments in long-range hypersonic weapons?
    Secretary Wormuth. At this time, inflation rates have not barred 
the Army from staying on track to deliver a road mobile and air 
transportable Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) that will provide 
residual combat capability to soldiers by the end of fiscal year 2023. 
The Army is consistently engaged with its industry partners to 
continually manage risk across the development effort, including 
addressing inflationary pressures, to keep the effort on schedule.
                           military personnel
    57. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, how does the Army plan 
to address the staggeringly low numbers of youth qualified for military 
service under current guidelines?
    General McConville. The issue of low numbers of American youth 
qualified for military service presents a challenge for the all-
volunteer force. Obesity, medical/physical concerns, and behavioral 
health concerns all impact the pool of qualified military applicants 
from which the Army can recruit. To address this diminishing pool, the 
Army is experimenting with initiatives that expand upon current 
definitions of quality to expand the pool of qualified applicants and 
allow interested individuals to serve. The Army has also stood up its 
special accessions/recruiting tiger team to develop near- and long-term 
recommendations to ensure the Army meets its recruiting goals and 
safeguard its future success. This team of experts is reviewing 
initiatives related to Army recruiters, Army marketing efforts, and 
Army policy/doctrine. These initiatives are intended to modernize the 
Army accessions enterprise, provide a holistic review of current 
practices and incentive structures, and ensure that the Army remains a 
competitive employer that attracts and retains desired, high-quality 
talent in a competitive job market. We look forward to sharing the 
results from this review upon its completion.

    58. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, how does the Army plan 
to support troops' reintegration into the civil sector with the current 
state of the economy and record-high inflation?
    General McConville. The Army's Transition Assistance Program 
provides soldiers with multiple programs, classes, and opportunities to 
successfully transition from Active Duty to the civilian sector. 
Additional training and certification options are available through the 
Career Skills Program (CSP), and companies offering placement through a 
CSP are carefully vetted to ensure employment openings provide 
competitive wages.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
    59. Senator Hawley. General McConville, what can we do to 
accelerate development and fielding of Precision Strike Missile 
Increments 2, so we can take advantage of its anti-ship capability as 
soon as possible?
    General McConville. The Army has already invested in a science and 
technology effort to accelerate the technological maturity and concept 
demonstration of the seeker to satisfy Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) 
Increment 2 requirements. This technology maturity effort will 
transition to the PrSM program in fiscal year 2024. We are working 
closely with industry on the interface requirements to ensure the 
seeker technology being demonstrated is compatible with and more easily 
integrated into the base PrSM missile for final system development.

    60. Senator Hawley. General McConville, when is Precision Strike 
Missile Increment 4 expected to reach the Initial Operational 
Capability, and what can we do to accelerate that timeline, so we can 
take advantage of that system's extended range as quickly as possible?
    General McConville. The Army is working on the acquisition strategy 
for PrSM Increment 4 now, with a goal of an early operational 
capability by fiscal year 2027 if the required technology matures as 
hoped and funds are available. The Army plans to provide a more 
detailed way ahead for this program in the fiscal year 2024 budget 
submission.

    61. Senator Hawley. General McConville, has the Army done an 
analysis to see what kinds of forces or capabilities the Army is 
currently providing in Europe that Germany or other NATO allies could 
provide over the next five to ten years, thereby relieving demand on 
our forces?
    General McConville. We are always looking for, and encouraging, our 
allies to do more to provide for their common defense. It is reassuring 
that many of our European allies have increased their defense budgets; 
I hope that this trend remains constant in the future. The Army, in 
concert with the Department of Defense, continues to assess the right 
balance of rotational and permanent U.S. force presence.

    62. Senator Hawley. General McConville, what are some of the things 
U.S. Army forces are currently providing in Europe that our NATO allies 
may able to provide on their own, either using forces they currently 
have or by using forces that they can realistically develop and field?
    General McConville. DOD, USEUCOM, and NATO officials are currently 
participating in high-level sourcing discussions which will help the 
alliance determine future military requirements and NATO's future 
contributions. As a result of these efforts, NATO allies are already 
providing large amounts of lethal and nonlethal aid to Ukraine.
    United States European Command (USEUCOM) and United States Army 
Europe and Africa (USAREUR-AF) are responsible for guiding U.S. Army 
security activities and coordinating with our allies in that theater. 
Since February 2, 2022, the U.S. Army has deployed an additional 15,000 
soldiers to Europe to reinforce USEUCOM and NATO.
    These forces provide capabilities that include a Division 
Headquarters, an Armored Brigade Combat Team, and Fires and Logistics 
elements. USAREUR-AF's goals include expanding our NATO allies' 
responsibilities in areas such as command and control, security force 
assistance, and logistics as well as thickening our NATO allies' 
physical footprint further east in Europe.

    63. Senator Hawley. General McConville, how important are 
unattended ground sensors for the U.S. Army in the Indo-Pacific, and 
what kinds of investments can we make in these sensors in order to 
improve intelligence and warning available to the Joint Force as we 
posture to deter Chinese aggression?
    General McConville. In the INDOPACOM area of operations it is 
extremely important to improve the indications and warnings for the 
Joint Force so USARPAC can more easily see, secure, and understand the 
threat environment. To provide these early warnings, the Army is 
investing in unmanned signals intelligence ground sensors. In fiscal 
year 2022, the Army will spend $13.3 million to develop the initial 
sensors. The Army intends to spend additional funding in fiscal year 
2023 to further the development of unmanned signals intelligence ground 
sensors.

    64. Senator Hawley. General McConville, can you provide an update 
on the Army's modernization efforts to develop and deploy a resilient 
network, that can effectively receive targeting data during a potential 
conflict?
    General McConville. We are prepared to provide an update on the 
Army's modernization efforts in this area is through a classified 
briefing. The Army's network modernization team can provide a detailed 
classified briefing on this topic, as requested.



  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                         THURSDAY, MAY 12, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              NAVY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Peters, Rosen, 
Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, 
Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the plans and programs of the Department 
of the Navy in review of the President's Fiscal Year 2023 
Defense Budget Request. I would like to welcome the Secretary 
of the Navy Carlos Del Toro, Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral 
Michael Gilday, and the Commandant of the Marine Corps, General 
David Berger.
    We are grateful for your service, for the service of the 
men and women under your command, and for the support of all 
Navy and Marine families. The Administration's defense budget 
request for fiscal year 2023 includes approximately $231 
billion in funding for the Department of the Navy, an increase 
of $10.6 billion from the fiscal year 2022 enacted budget. As 
the leaders of the Navy and Marine Corps, I understand you face 
significant challenges as you strive to balance current 
operations and readiness alongside broad modernization efforts.
    Our naval forces continue to maintain extremely high 
operations tempo across all areas. Demand is overwhelming for 
attack submarines, air and missile defense cruisers, 
destroyers, and strike fighter inventories. As a result, our 
ships and the fleet are not meeting maintenance requirements on 
time or within budget. A number of ships have been waiting 
several years for maintenance, including the USS Boise, which 
will spend another year at pier side without diving 
certifications because of deferred maintenance.
    I am also concerned that the Navy will not be able to 
maintain a larger fleet of ships when it is struggling to 
maintain its current fleet of 294 ships on a consistent 
schedule. Deferred ship maintenance, reduced steaming and 
flying hours, and canceled training and deployments have 
created serious readiness problems within the Navy. These 
problems are not limited to one sector but are also being 
experienced by both private shipyards and Navy shipyards.
    The 2022 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) directed 
the Navy to study how to improve the capacity in our shipyard 
industrial base. The Navy has since begun the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program (SIOP) to modernize and 
improve the efficiency of the public sector shipyards. We look 
forward to seeing the results of that effort.
    Looking ahead, I am pleased that the USS Gerald Ford has 
conducted full ship shock trials, and we understand that she 
may be deployed later this year. Looming on the horizon, over 
the next decade, the Navy will need to buy new Columbia-class 
ballistic missile submarines to replace the Ohio-class fleet. 
This is an expensive undertaking on a very tight schedule, and 
I trust the Navy is making every effort to keep this program on 
track. I would ask our witnesses for an update on these plans.
    This year, the Navy is proposing to retire a number of 
ships before the end of their useful service lives. This 
includes a plan to retire nine Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) 
early, one of which would only be 3 years old. I understand the 
LCS program showed promise when it was first conceived, but the 
threats we face have changed, and the Navy no longer believes 
these vessels would contribute much to a high end conflict.
    The Navy made a difficult choice to retire some of the 
ships now and free up more resources in the future. On the 
other hand, it seems that this plan would take us in the 
opposite direction of the Navy's goal for 355 ship fleet. This 
Committee will want an update on this issue. Turning to the 
United States marines, the Marine Corps is restructuring around 
two concepts, Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment 
and Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations.
    The key element of these concepts is the more flexible 
amphibious force that can support a broader naval fight once 
ashore. Rather than simply acting as a landing force, the 
Marine Corps hopes to help control the sea and air around them 
in support of the Navy and the other services. To accomplish 
this, I understand the Marine Corps is prioritizing 
modernization of its ground vehicles, including partnership 
with the Army and the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, or the 
JLTV, to replace the Humvee, and targeted investments in the 
High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, to provide 
marines with ground based indirect fire support.
    In addition, programs like the Amphibious Combat Vehicle, 
the Ground Based Anti-Ship Missile, and long range precision 
fires will provide critical modernization, increased force 
protection, and enhanced lethality to the marines. General 
Berger, I appreciate your consultations and discussions with 
the members of this Committee as you began this restructuring, 
and I appreciate your continued engagement with the Committee 
as this process proceeds.
    There also may be discussions this morning about the 
appropriate amphibious force structure. I understand that the 
Commandant says he needs 31 large amphibious ships to meet his 
requirements, in addition to any smaller vessels invented to 
support the Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations concept. 
Others in the Defense Department have determined that only 24 
to 28 large amphibious ships are needed, and I would ask for an 
update on these discussions.
    Again, I want to thank the witnesses for appearing today, 
and I look forward to their testimony. Let me now recognize the 
Ranking Member Senator Inhofe.

                STATEMENT OF SENATOR JIM INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I 
join you in welcoming these three great leaders. For 4 years, 
this Committee has used the 2018 National Defense Strategy 
Commission as our roadmap to meet the threats. It has operated 
very well during this time.
    Unfortunately, the Administration has sent to the Congress 
a budget request that does not provide the resources required 
to combat that threat and other threats. The Department of Navy 
budget provides an increase of only 4 percent, and more 
troubling, the Marine Corps portion includes just 1.8 percent 
increase.
    That is nowhere close to the real growth in--for the 
Marines, once again, if you account for inflation, it is 
actually a cut. Given the inadequate budget requests, it is no 
surprise that Admiral Gilday and General Berger in their 
unfunded priorities--we call those the risk lists--total $7.5 
billion. More broadly, I am concerned about the state of our 
Navy and its downward trajectory.
    I actually had four items I was going to mention on here. 
However, all four of them ended up being in the Chairman's 
opening remarks so I won't use those. The real growth is going 
to have to be a part of the programs that move the needle. On 
that topic, I would like to note General Berger's initiative in 
implementing the National Defense Strategy and his efforts to 
keep this Committee informed of his plans.
    So I look forward to discussing these topics and--from our 
witnesses and--that we have. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. 
Secretary Del Toro, please.

STATEMENT OF CARLOS DEL TORO, SECRETARY OF THE NAVY, DEPARTMENT 
                          OF THE NAVY

    Mr. Del Toro. Good morning----
    Chairman Reed. Could you bring that microphone as close as 
possible, Mr. Secretary----?
    Mr. Del Toro. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, distinguished members of the Committee. It is an honor 
to be here alongside General Berger and Admiral Gilday to 
discuss the posture of the Department of the Navy. I look 
forward to working with you to ensure that our sailors and 
marines are equipped, trained, and prepared to the best of our 
ability so they can fulfill our vital role to provide combat 
ready forces in support of the Joint Force.
    The United States requires a strong Navy and Marine Corps. 
Our global economy and the self-determination of free nations 
everywhere depends on seapower. Our national security depends 
on seapower. That is particularly true in the Indo-Pacific, 
where Beijing's aggression threatens the rules-based 
international order that protects us all.
    To answer that challenge, your Navy and Marine Corps must 
have the resources and the power to maintain credible, 
integrated deterrence by campaigning forward, forward from the 
sea, on the shore, and in the air. Thanks to the leadership of 
President Biden's Secretary Austin, this budget does provide 
the right balance of capacity, lethality, modernization, and 
readiness that we need to execute the National Defense 
Strategy.
    We will invest these resources through the execution of a 
concise, clear, and transparent strategy rooted in three 
guiding principles. First, maintain and strengthen our maritime 
dominance so that we can deter potential adversaries and fight 
and win decisively. Second, empower our sailors and marines by 
fostering a culture of warfighting excellence founded on strong 
leadership, dignity, and respect for each other.
    Third, strengthen our strategic partnerships across the 
Joint Force, industry, and our international partners around 
the globe. We are executing this strategy through the 
integrated visions of the Marine Corps Force Design 2030 and 
the Navy Navigation Plan. I strongly support these visions, and 
I am committed to fielding the ready, capable, and modernized 
force required to ensure their success.
    To maintain and strengthen maritime dominance, we have to 
be serious about fielding and maintaining the right 
capabilities to win wars. That is why our budget strongly 
invested in a nimble, networked, and survivable Navy, with 
platforms like Columbia, DDG Flight III, with enhanced cyber 
and autonomous capabilities that enable our fleet to campaign 
forward in a distributed manner.
    This budget invests in a truly expeditionary and persistent 
Marine Corps with the mobility and readiness to respond in 
force wherever and whenever needed. For advancing cyber 
security and resilience efforts across the Department with 
investments to expand the cyber mission force teams, harden 
networks, and leverage artificial intelligence and machine 
learning to defend information infrastructure.
    To ensure the combat readiness of our platforms, we are 
more than doubling shipyard infrastructure optimization 
programs, SIOP, investments over the previous budget. This 
budget invests in the climate resiliency of our force and our 
facilities, while continuing efforts to substantially reduce 
our impact on climate change. We are also investing in 
facilities that promote the quality of life of our personnel 
and their families. We owe it to our military families to 
ensure their safety and well-being.
    When we do fall short, we look our problem square in the 
eye, and we take actions to fix those problems. We are 
investing in our efforts to recruit, retain, train, and promote 
the best from all of America. We are increasing funding for 
naval and cyber education, enhanced shipboard training, and 
enabling sailors and marines to build their careers wherever 
the service takes them.
    We appreciate the Committee's interest in ensuring our 
forces have the right facilities to train, fight, and win, 
including the potential expansion of the Fallon Training Range 
Complex. We also appreciate the Committee's efforts to include 
new tools within the NDAA to deter destructive behavior and 
prosecute sexual assault, domestic violence, and other 
offenses.
    At every level of leadership, we are determined to prevent 
sexual assault and sexual harassment, hold offenders 
accountable, and create a safer, stronger, and more inclusive 
Navy-Marine Corps team. I want to close by noting the 
importance of strategic partnerships, from the Joint Force and 
our industrial base, to our allies and partners around the 
world.
    I have seen our partnerships and alliances personally in 
action, from F-35B operations in the Indo-Pacific to North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) exercises in Norway and the 
Mediterranean. But our most important partnership is indeed 
with the American people.
    That is why I am grateful for the oversight and interest of 
this Committee, and I look forward to continuing to work with 
you in the years ahead. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of The Honorable Carlos Del Toro 
follows:]

          Prepared Statement by The Honorable Carlos Del Toro
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, Members of the Committee, it 
is an honor to appear before you alongside General Berger and Admiral 
Gilday to discuss the posture of the Department of the Navy (DON). I 
look forward to working with you to ensure that our sailors and marines 
are equipped, trained, and prepared to the best of our ability, so they 
can fulfill their vital role in support of the Joint Force, protecting 
our national security interests.
    The United States requires a strong Navy and Marine Corps. The 
global economy, and the self-determination of free nations everywhere, 
depends on sea power. Thirty-one million American jobs and $5.4 
trillion in annual commerce rely on the sea lanes, and one third of all 
international commerce transits the South China Sea. Without a ready, 
and capable Navy and Marine Corps protecting the sea lanes and lines of 
communications, the global economy could easily halt.
    The national and economic security of our Nation depends on free 
and open access to the sea. The rules-based international order that 
benefits us all requires a strong maritime force, campaigning forward 
alongside allies and partners to provide the sea control and integrated 
deterrence we need to counter strategic competitors, from Beijing, 
Moscow, and beyond.
    As Secretary Austin stated in his testimony before this Committee, 
``Integrated deterrence means combining our strengths across all the 
warfighting domains to maximum effect to ward off potential conflict.'' 
The Navy and Marine Corps Team offers forward maneuverable strengths in 
every domain that serve as a force multiplier within the Joint Force 
and alongside our allies and international partners. We are determined 
to ensure the integrated all domain force required to ensure maximum 
effect for civilian and military leadership, across the range of 
military options.
    Thanks to the leadership of President Biden and Secretary Austin, 
President's Budget 2023 provides the right balance of capacity, 
lethality, modernization, and readiness needed to field the globally 
engaged and dominant naval force required by the National Defense 
Strategy. This budget will maximize the efficiency and effectiveness of 
each dollar entrusted to us by the American taxpayer, ensuring 
sufficient resources for today's challenges, while building future 
overmatch.
    We will invest these resources through a concise, clear, and 
transparent strategy centered on three primary lines of effort:
    1.  Strengthen Maritime Dominance.
    2.  Empower Our People.
    3.  Expand Strategic Partnerships.
    Admiral Gilday, General Berger, and I are executing these lines of 
effort as one fully integrated DON. The Navy Navigation Plan and Marine 
Corps Force Design 2030 are complementary visions working together to 
ensure the distributed capacity, long range fires, amphibious mobility, 
and network of allies and partners our sailors and marines need to make 
mission.
    Together, we are committed to working with you to ensure these 
plans are fully resourced, with vigorous oversight, to deliver maximum 
value to the American taxpayer, and to fulfill our sacred oath to 
protect the American people.
                     strengthen maritime dominance
    The security and freedom of the seas, and the resulting prosperity 
and security of our Nation, did not happen on its own. It required 
significant investment and foresight by generations of legislative and 
executive leaders.
    Two hundred and twenty-five years ago, Congressional funding led to 
the commissioning of USS Constitution. One hundred years ago, the Navy 
launched our country's first aircraft carrier, USS Langley. Eighty 
years ago, the Marine Corps began purchasing Higgins Boats. Seventy 
years ago, President Truman laid the keel for USS Nautilus, the first 
nuclear submarine.
    Each of these investments yielded exponential returns, fueling the 
remarkable growth and global leadership of the United States during 
centuries of conflict and change. We stand at a similar inflection 
point today, where our national and economic security depend on the 
investments we make today to build and maintain our maritime dominance.
    Just as our first frigates defended American shipping from foreign 
aggression, tomorrow's networked frigates and destroyers will define 
the future of sea control. Just as our early aircraft carriers provided 
the critical edge at Midway, Ford-class carriers will transform the 
forward posture of our Nation in the conflicts ahead.
    Just as the Higgins Boats seized the shorelines from Guadalcanal to 
Okinawa, tomorrow's amphibious platforms will maintain our combat 
credibility throughout the Indo-Pacific, and just as our undersea fleet 
maintained the most survivable leg of the nuclear triad for the last 
seven decades, our strategic future depends on delivering Columbia-
class submarines, our top acquisition priority.
    Seapower has always required foresight and investment, and the 
future of our Nation will be defined by the strategic choices we make 
today. The posture and availability of naval forces must always reflect 
the strategic needs of the Nation, providing effective options for the 
President and Secretary of Defense to counter every challenge.
    The DON fiscal year 2023 budget request delivers these forces 
through sustained investment and performance improvement, developing 
more lethal, networked capabilities and concepts, closely integrated 
between the services and with our Joint Force and government partners, 
as well as our allies and international partners.
Fleet Investments
    The CNO's Navigation Plan refocuses our integrated all-domain naval 
power on the core functions of sea control and power projection through 
Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO). DMO places a high priority on 
the long range fires and advanced connectivity that will result in a 
resilient, networked, and dispersed fleet, providing decision advantage 
and unified action in contested environments.
    President's Budget 2023 will invest in both manned and unmanned 
platforms to meet the strategic and operational demands of DMO, and 
will invest in the industrial capacity and capability to meet 
availability and maintenance demands as required to defend the Nation. 
President's Budget 2023 focuses on delivery and maintaining platforms 
that will provide the greatest combat capabilities and readiness across 
the fleet, while divesting in platforms that have less relevance in 
contested maritime environments where adversaries have advanced weapon 
systems. This budget provides funding for nine battle force ships in 
the coming year, including two Virginia-class attack submarines and two 
Arleigh Burke Flight III Destroyers, and also continues funding for the 
Columbia-class and Ford-class programs.
    President's Budget 2023 increases innovation and modernization 
efforts in Research and Development by 9 percent for the Navy and 6 
percent for the Marine Corps. A $2.7 billion investment in long range 
fires and hypersonic technologies will extend the lethality and 
capability of our platforms, and ensure maximum reach, survivability 
and decision space for our sailors and marines. With an increase of $81 
million for Operation Overmatch in fiscal year 2023, the Navy will 
field a resilient, networked, and dispersed fleet, connected through 
the Naval Operational Architecture and Project Overmatch to provide 
decision advantage in contested environments. President's Budget 2023 
also commits $1.2 billion of Research and Development funding to 
recapitalization of all portions of the undersea leg of the triad 
including the submarines, TACAMO, Trident D5, and our Nuclear Command, 
Control and Communications network.
    To increase availability, improve maintenance, and maximize 
throughput for our warships, President's Budget 2023 continues targeted 
shore investments designed to increase fleet readiness. I was honored 
to break ground on a new drydock facility at our public shipyard in 
Portsmouth last fall, and have visited each of the Navy's four public 
shipyards as Secretary. Each of these facilities provides critical 
contributions to the availability and maintenance of our fleet, and 
each has modernization imperatives which are being addressed.
    In order to improve naval maintenance production capacity at these 
facilities, the DON is fully committed to the Shipyard Infrastructure 
Optimization Program (SIOP), more than doubling SIOP investments over 
the previous budget, with over $1.7 billion in funding for dry dock 
recapitalization, facility optimization, and capital equipment and 
modernization.
Expeditionary Capabilities
    President's Budget 2023 continues planning and design for the 
future Light Amphibious Warship (LAW). This budget provides for one 
Amphibious Transport Dock (LPD) and one Amphibious Assault Ship (LHA). 
Amphibious warships like the LHA and LPD are vital for the organic 
mobility and expeditionary persistence of our Marine Corps, and remain 
in high demand as a ``Swiss Army Knife'' for the Joint Force, meeting 
varying needs in dynamic situations. These ships provide the sealift 
necessary to deploy marines for crisis response, contingency missions, 
humanitarian assistance, and integrated deterrence, supporting Marine 
Corps Aviation as well as diverse capabilities such as ISR/sensing, 
long range fires, and decoys.
    The Joint Force needs a truly expeditionary and persistent Marine 
Corps-armed, agile, and postured--capable of operating persistently 
inside actively contested environments, and ready to respond in force 
at the speed of relevance. To answer these needs, the Marine Corps has 
put into motion an aggressive modernization of the Service through 
Force Design 2030, a transformational effort rooted in the anticipated 
challenges of the future operating environment.
    I thank the Congress for its support of this transformation in the 
fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 2022 authorization and appropriation 
bills. Your support is critical to the future readiness and lethality 
of the Marine Corps. Building on the cooperative efforts of all of our 
sea Services, the Marine Corps is reinvigorating the Fleet Marine 
principle to execute expeditionary warfighting concepts including 
Expeditionary Advanced Basing Operations (EABO) and Littoral Operations 
in a Contested Environment (LOCE).
    Agile, smaller combined-arms warfighting units, such as the Marine 
Littoral Regiment (MLR), Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and Marine 
Expeditionary Unit (MEU) are the 9-1-1 force for our Combatant 
Commanders in the most dynamic and volatile situations. For example, 
during the evacuation efforts at Kabul International Airport last 
August, the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit was first on the ground, 
keeping the aviation lifeline open.
    The ARG/MEU is able to support a variety of mission sets, from 
humanitarian assistance, to coordinated operations with our allies and 
partners, to agile and lethal response in the combat zone. All of this 
requires investment in organic mobility, from the fleet, to the field, 
to the air.
    Accordingly, President's Budget 2023 prioritizes and fully funds 
Marine Expeditionary Forces, and will advance the expeditionary vision 
of Force Design 2030 through aircraft like the CH-53K King Stallion, 
with rotary heavy lift capability unmatched across the Joint Force. 
Platforms like CH-53K and C-130J will play a key role in the rapid 
deployment of marines and equipment wherever and whenever needed.
Air Wing of the Future
    As we mark the centennial of American carrier aviation, naval 
aviators from both the Navy and Marine Corps are achieving exceptional 
results in the operational deployment of the F-35 Lightning.
    From the short takeoff and nimble capabilities of the F-35B, to our 
unmatched, carrier-based, precision strike F-35C, the Joint Strike 
Fighter is having a transformational effect on the reach and capability 
of naval aviation. In the coming years, a combination of F-35 and Next 
Generation Air Dominance systems will provide even greater power 
projection from our carrier force. President's Budget 2023 will procure 
additional F-35C and F-35B aircraft, and will also invest in the Navy's 
MQ-25 unmanned aerial refueling system and MQ-9 Reaper, a crucial 
enabler for the effectiveness, visibility, and maneuverability of 
marines in the field.
    We are taking a comprehensive approach to modernizing the Navy's 
Fleet Readiness Centers (FRCs), which conduct depot level maintenance, 
repair, and overhaul of U.S. Navy aircraft, engines, components and 
support equipment. To build on the positive trend lines we have 
achieved in operational availability and readiness, President's Budget 
2023 includes an 11 percent increase in airframe, engine depot, and 
component funding. We continue to see positive results in aircraft 
availability, sustaining a mission-capable rate of 80 percent for F/A-
18E/F Super Hornets for three consecutive fiscal years, and five 
additional airframes achieving 80 percent mission capability over the 
last 18 months.
    Through the Performance to Plan (P2P) initiative we're using data-
driven decision-making across the Navy to identify the root causes of 
maintenance delays and operational mishaps. This data-driven decision-
making is integral to a ``Get Real, Get Better'' approach being applied 
across the Navy, demanding rigorous self-assessment, detailed analysis 
characterizing current performance, and providing opportunity to 
implement improvements. In order to ensure every dollar is maximized to 
equip and prepare the warfighter, we are building on our financial 
statement audit success to improve our business systems, account for 
every asset, and leverage data as a strategic asset.
Sustaining Maritime Information Superiority
    Modernization of our information technology infrastructure is a 
critical warfighting priority for the DON. As an information age naval 
force, every Navy and Marine Corps warfighting function and mission 
area is dependent on data and information to rapidly inform decision-
making throughout the entire competition to conflict continuum. We are 
using data driven decision-making to achieve tangible savings while 
consistently working to become more effective and more efficient. For 
example, the Marine Corps has implemented Artificial Intelligence-
enabled counter-intrusion systems aboard bases, and we will continue to 
explore the use of information technology to harden defenses and enable 
capabilities.
    Effective use and management of data is key to our digital 
transformation, and will change how we will fight and win at every 
level. We are exploring the warfighting enabling capabilities of 5G 
expansion, and seeking additional ways to leverage new technology for 
distributed warfighting and unified command and control. Leaders in 
every functional unit and discipline have been directed to set business 
systems modernization on an integrated path that is sufficiently 
resourced and supported across the DON.
Climate Readiness
    The United States Navy and Marine Corps recognize the reality of 
global climate change and the need to prepare for its short and long 
term effects on operational capability, as well as our responsibility 
to mitigate our environmental impact.
    To make our shore infrastructure more resilient to a changing 
climate, the Department is incorporating sea level rise modeling and 
modern facility standards into our new building designs. Navy and 
Marine Corps installations are adding a resilience component to their 
master plans and taking steps to ensure critical-mission infrastructure 
has access to reliable energy sources.
    Reducing fuel consumption also reduces overall costs, not only 
related to end-point consumption, but also costs associated with 
transporting fuel and resources to protect those assets. New 
technologies are reducing fuel consumption, including hybridization for 
newer platforms. In addition, advanced batteries and synthetic fuels 
are the starting point for platforms that are smaller, more lethal, and 
more integrated into future battlefield networks.
    President's Budget 2023 resources $719 million for climate-
cognizant solutions including hybrid vehicles and propulsion system 
efficiencies. Reducing energy demand and fuel consumption through 
advanced technology will enable warfighters to remain forward and self-
sufficient for a longer period of time while also contributing to 
climate change goals.
    Especially noteworthy are the regional challenges facing Naval 
forces in the Arctic, from the changing physical environment and 
greater access to sea routes and resources, to increased military 
activities by Arctic states, such as Russia, and non-Arctic states and 
their attempts to alter Arctic governance. Harsh operating conditions 
in the Arctic affect our meteorological forecast capability, 
hydrographic surveys, modeling, and sensors have the potential to 
impact sea lines of communications.
    I have therefore directed a review of our current strategic 
document for the Arctic, the Arctic Blueprint, to ensure we are 
adequately preparing our forces for climate change within and through 
the region. The Navy is also engaging with our Arctic partners and 
allies through programs such as the Denmark Newport Arctic Scholars 
Initiative recently co-hosted by the President of the US Naval War 
College and Commandant of the Royal Danish Defense College.
                         empowering our people
    Everywhere I've gone as Secretary of the Navy, I have been 
impressed with the professional dedication of every sailor, marine, and 
civilian executing the many missions of the DON. Admiral Gilday, 
General Berger, and I are determined to ensure opportunities for every 
sailor, marine and civilian to advance and grow without barriers or 
discrimination. It all starts with a culture of warfighting excellence, 
where all are treated with dignity and respect.
Building the Future Force
    To maintain a Fleet prepared to fight and win in long term 
strategic competition, we must continue to evaluate and improve our 
capability to attract, retain, and develop a talented and diverse 
workforce. We face an intensely competitive job market for talented 
workers, and a rapidly evolving tactical and technical landscape, 
driving us to modernize and enhance our entire talent management 
approach in order to succeed.
    We are expanding opportunities for civilians with prior military 
service to contribute their unique experiences to our force through the 
Targeted Reentry Program. We are also expanding avenues for personnel 
to learn, operate, and innovate with partners from the private sector, 
across the Joint Force, and alongside our allies.
    We are continuously identifying opportunities for personnel to 
develop their leadership skills throughout the ranks, promoting equal 
opportunity in every aspect of our force. For example, the Marine Corps 
Talent Management 2030 is focused on identifying the individual 
strengths of every marine and matching these talents to the needs of 
the Corps.
    Our mission demands leaders who possess the highest intellectual 
and warfighting capabilities to confront the many dangers of a complex 
world. We value critical thinking, creativity, communication, 
collaboration, and problem solving. The institutions of our naval 
education enterprise are developing leaders with the warfighting rigor, 
intellectual dynamism, and innovation to hold our strategic advantage 
against competitors and global adversaries. We are creating a continuum 
of learning through ready, relevant education, attuned to the battle 
rhythm of Active Duty service.
    President's Budget 2023 invests $425 million in our naval education 
institutions, including the US Naval Academy, Naval Postgraduate 
School, Naval War College, and Marine Corps University. This funding 
will expand access to the Naval Community College ensuring that all of 
our personnel have access to a high quality college education, no 
matter where their service takes them. We are investing in distance 
learning and increasing shipboard training and certification 
opportunities, while expanding opportunities for personnel to work and 
research alongside our industrial and academic partners.
    We appreciate the Congress's interest in ensuring our naval forces 
have the right facilities to train, fight, and win. Specifically, we 
are grateful for the Congress's continued attention to the urgent need 
to expand the Fallon Training Range Complex, which is necessary to the 
readiness of every naval aviator and Navy SEAL. I have personally met 
with Tribal and local community leaders, as well as my counterparts 
across the Federal Government, and I am committed to finding a 
favorable solution for everyone involved.
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
    In order to meet the challenges of a complex world, we must 
continue to recruit, retain, train, and promote the best from all of 
America. We need a diverse force, so every child in America can see 
themselves wearing the uniform or working in our civilian ranks 
tomorrow, and every viewpoint is represented in our operations today, 
so that we can draw talent from all of America to build our warfighting 
advantage. This is a national security imperative, and a critical 
aspect of the DON's Diversity, Equity and Inclusion initiatives.
    We have been reaching out across the Department, through efforts 
like Task Force One Navy, the Executive Diversity Advisory Council, the 
USMC Diversity Review Board and the Navy DEI Council to understand what 
is working, and where we fall short. We are looking at areas of under-
representation in military and civilian occupations, and finding ways 
to build diversity, equity and inclusion efforts into our Navy and 
Marine Corps culture.
    We are expanding recruitment efforts like our Junior Officer 
Diversity Outreach Program, to build recruitment networks in diverse 
and underrepresented communities. We are expanding and increasing 
awareness of career development and mentorship opportunities to help 
cultivate the next generation of diverse leadership through the ranks. 
In accordance with the 2017 Women, Peace and Security Act, we are 
working with partner nations to expand the meaningful participation of 
women in defense around the world.
    We continue to expand gender integration in Marine Corps recruit 
training and operational units, strengthening our entire force. Out in 
the fleet, women are leading as never before. In December, I 
commissioned USS Daniel Inouye, under the command of Commander DonAnn 
Gilmore. In January, USS Abraham Lincoln Captain Amy Bauernschmidt 
became the first woman to command an aircraft carrier at sea. In 
February, I was honored to preside over the change of command at USS 
Constitution, as Commander Billie Farrell became the first woman to 
command our Nation's flagship.
    Many more outstanding women are on their way up the ranks. This 
semester at the U.S. Naval Academy, five of the six people chosen 
through a competitive process to serve on the staff of the Brigade 
Commander, the highest ranking midshipman, are women, including the 
Brigade Commander, herself.
    From the E-Ring to the Air Wing, the deckplates to the field, our 
force is stronger today because of the many women and minorities in our 
ranks and leadership. But there is still more work to be done. We are 
working to reduce under-representation by examining our accession and 
promotion pipelines to recognize and value the service of all our 
enlisted and commissioned personnel. Our office of Diversity, Equity 
and Inclusion continues to identify areas for improvement and action. 
We look forward to working with the Committee to continue expanding 
opportunities for all Americans to serve and lead.
Destructive Behaviors
    Leaders at all levels are expected to set the tone for a healthy 
climate and culture where destructive behaviors are never tolerated. 
Trust is at the heart of all our warriors do. Extremist ideologies are 
a strategic threat to that trust and have no place within the Navy and 
Marine Corps.
    Throughout 2021, DON representatives participated in the Secretary 
of Defense's Countering Extremist Activity Working Group to develop 
recommendations to address extremism in the ranks. Specific focus areas 
included military justice and policy, training and enhancing the 
insider threat program.
    This budget requests $240 million for Sexual Assault Prevention and 
Response activities--an 84 percent increase over fiscal year 2022. We 
have focused our efforts on recognizing and preventing harmful 
behaviors in the first instance, and ensuring that leaders at every 
level have the training, skills, and tools available to ensure 
offenders are held appropriately accountable.
    I appreciate the work of this Committee to include new tools within 
the fiscal year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) to deter 
misconduct and prosecute sexual assault, domestic violence, and other 
covered offenses. The Department of Navy is moving forward to create 
Offices of Special Trial Counsel, as required by the NDAA, and we 
welcome the meaningful change these offices will help enable. Trained 
and independent military prosecutors will capably oversee sensitive 
investigations of covered offenses and independently determine, based 
on the evidence, which cases are referred to trial by court-martial. 
They will be led by a senior judge advocate who will report directly to 
me.
    DON leaders have circulated the ``Watch List'' throughout the 
force. This prevention tool details warning signs that increase the 
risk of sexual assault within a command, including sexual harassment, 
gender discrimination, lack of responsibility and intervention, 
workplace hostility, and lack of respect and unit cohesion. In 
conjunction with this training tool, we encourage leaders at every 
level to speak up and take action when they see these or other 
behaviors on the continuum of harm.
    This fiscal year, we will begin hiring an integrated prevention 
workforce across the force to redouble our focus on early 
identification and prevention of harmful and destructive behaviors. I 
have also directed the DON to expedite the implementation of five 
recommendations of the Secretary of Defense's Independent Review 
Commission on Sexual Assault in the Military. These five accelerated 
recommendations focus on developing, educating, and promoting leaders 
dedicated to fostering command climates in which all individuals are 
treated with dignity and respect.
    These changes will improve our ability to prevent sexual assault 
and sexual harassment, hold offenders accountable, and create a safer, 
stronger and more inclusive Navy-Marine Corps team. I am releasing the 
DON ``No Wrong Door'' policy, ensuring victims receive professional 
care to the fullest extent practicable, regardless of where they 
initially seek support. This new policy will also serve to supplement 
existing efforts to further professionalize our workforce, prioritize 
the prevention of sexual harassment and eliminate collateral duty 
personnel with full time personnel. This ``No Wrong Door'' policy also 
recognizes that sexual assault, sexual harassment, and domestic abuse 
exist on a continuum of harm. The DON's implementation efforts, led by 
the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, 
are already underway.
Take Care of Our People
    The DON is committed to ensuring the health, safety, and well-being 
for all members within our military community. We are reforming 
operating procedures and promotion practices to reward initiative, 
applied problem solving, and innovative thinking at every level. A top 
priority as we evaluate personnel practices are the needs and 
challenges of military families, particularly to ensure our policies 
respect the needs of single parent and dual service families.
    The DON offers a variety of mental health and counseling resources, 
encouraging positive help-seeking behaviors and eliminating the stigma 
around mental health care among servicemembers. The importance of this 
issue and the continued emphasis on suicide prevention has been 
highlighted in recent weeks as we mourn the loss of young sailors 
aboard USS George Washington. We continue to emphasize suicide 
prevention efforts, breaking the silence, and increasing visibility and 
access to critical resources.
    Through a combination of non-monetary, quality of life, and 
customer service programs, we are responding to the needs of our 
warfighters and their families. For example, this budget increases 
Child and Youth Services funding by 38 percent, including $56 million 
for a new Child Development Center at Point Loma, childcare data 
management system upgrades, and full funding for the Fee Assistance 
Program.
    President's Budget 2023 also includes significant funding for 
construction and oversight of family housing, including $249 million 
for new family housing at Joint Region Marianas--Andersen Air Force 
Base, Guam, and $75 million for construction improvements to family 
housing in Yokosuka, Japan. President's Budget 2023 also includes the 
funding necessary for DON to sustain our increased oversight as 
necessary to ensure Military Housing Privatization Initiative (MHPI) 
projects on Navy and Marine Corps bases provide quality housing and a 
positive living experience for sailors, marines and their families.
    As demonstrated by recent quality issues at barracks buildings in 
Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bethesda in Maryland, the DON must also 
ensure that our unaccompanied housing is properly maintained and 
consistent with modern living standards. I have recently visited the 
barracks at NSA Bethesda to confirm that these quality issues have been 
appropriately addressed, and I am committed to improving our 
unaccompanied housing facilities and preventing future problems. 
President's Budget 2023 also includes significant investment in 
unaccompanied housing, including $101 million for phase II of a Navy 
barracks project at Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, and $101 million for a Marine 
Corps Barracks Complex at Kadena, Japan.
    Finally, I fully support the Secretary of Defense's decision to 
defuel and permanently close the Red Hill facility, and I take very 
seriously the DON's responsibility to make things right after fuel 
releases contaminated the drinking water system at Joint Base Pearl 
Harbor-Hickam. I will continue to work closely with our federal 
interagency partners and the Hawaii Department of Health to protect the 
environment and support the military families and residents who have 
been impacted by fuel-contaminated water on Oahu, Hawaii.
COVID-19
    With consistent personal and fleet discipline, vaccine 
distribution, and continued refinement of best practices, we have 
ensured a robust, proactive, and coordinated COVID-19 response across 
the DON. I particularly want to note the contributions of the 265,000 
civilian employees across the DON, whose faithful service has continued 
through the many challenges brought on by the pandemic, continuing 
critical and essential roles to enable our force to continue making 
mission.
    Guided by Health Protection Condition (HPCON) determinations and 
mission requirements, we continue to implement flexibilities to help 
minimize risk to our people and their families as we respond to 
evolving situations and ensure the continual readiness of our force. We 
are well positioned to emerge stronger than ever, as the pandemic has 
forced us to rethink and refine our recruitment, training, and 
personnel movements across the DON, as well as shipyard operations, 
deployments, and maintenance schedules, with efficiencies and 
applications of technology that can continue to benefit our operations 
and throughput long after COVID-19 is in our wake.
                   strengthen strategic partnerships
    Our partnerships provide an unmatched and irreplaceable advantage 
over every potential adversary. From our fellow Joint Force and 
government personnel, to our vital industrial base, to our global 
network of allies and partners, we will sustain, expand, and strengthen 
strategic partnerships by building seamless integration, communication, 
and collaboration with each of our partners at the same time that we 
cultivate new relationships.
Joint Force and Government
    Across both services and throughout the DON, President's Budget 
2023 will invest in the readiness of integration-ready platforms to 
ensure continued freedom of action throughout the maritime domain, from 
amphibious and ground element equipment, to agile warships and 
submarines, to dominant aircraft carriers and air wings. Successful 
implementation of the concepts within the Navigation Plan and Force 
Design 2030 will be pursued through a unified, integrated effort at 
every echelon.
    But our fully integrated naval force is only part of the formidable 
Joint Force team that stands united in the protection of the American 
people. Collaboration between Departments, from the Pentagon to the 
operational front line unit, is critical to the defense of the United 
States. We are constantly seeking opportunities to maximize the 
combined efficiency and effectiveness of our force in cooperation with 
the Army, Air Force, and Space Force. For example, we continue to work 
with our fellow services on critical advanced research programs 
including hypersonic weapons, and worldwide, the Joint Strike Fighter 
program is yielding unprecedented reach and agility for the entire 
Joint Force.
    We are also proud to serve alongside our fellow sea service, the 
United States Coast Guard. Building on Advantage at Sea, our Tri 
Service Maritime Strategy, we are continually seeking ways to leverage 
our combined capabilities, from ice breakers to coastal facilities to 
embarked personnel. For example, last year USS Tulsa and USS Charleston 
conducted missions with embarked Coast Guard detachments as part of the 
Oceania Maritime Security Initiative. This joint effort improves our 
maritime domain awareness in the Indo-Pacific to reduce illicit 
fishing, combat transnational crimes, and enhance regional security. 
President's Budget 2023 will build on cooperative efforts like this to 
safeguard every part of the maritime domain.
    We continue to work with the United States Strategic Command, the 
National Security Council and the United States Air Force to support 
the Strategic Deterrent Forces. We work closely with our Joint Force 
partners to ensure DON is fully integrated into the national command 
authority, and ensure the Navy's sea based strategic deterrent is ready 
at a moment's notice to defend our nation. We will continue to work 
closely with the Department of Energy and our National Laboratories, to 
ensure Navy is forward leaning with modernization and sustainment as we 
continue to invest in the future deterrent through programs like 
Columbia and TACAMO.
Community Partnerships
    Across the United States and around the world, Navy and Marines 
Corps installations partner with the local communities that host us to 
pursue joint opportunities, collaborate on shared challenges and 
develop regional plans that enable military readiness while supporting 
community priorities.
    Installation commanding officers are successfully using 
Intergovernmental Support Agreements to partner with a state or local 
governments to obtain installation support services, often at a 
considerable cost savings. Initiatives like the Defense Community 
Infrastructure Pilot program provide construction funds to states and 
communities to address deficiencies in community infrastructure that 
support military installations. Under the Readiness and Environmental 
Protection Integration (REPI) program, the DON is partnering with local 
governments and organizations and combining resources to enhance and 
preserve mission readiness and achieve mutually beneficial, sustainable 
communities near our installations and ranges.
Industry Partnerships
    From the skilled shipwrights who transformed live southern oak into 
USS Constitution's ``iron sides'', to the over 2,000 suppliers and 
contractors contributing to the Ford-class today, our industrial base 
has fueled the strength of our Navy and Marine Corps. The innovative 
platforms and technologies that are so essential to the Joint 
Warfighting Concept would not exist without the private sector's 
involvement.
    Working alongside our vital industry partners, we are aligning our 
efforts to produce the right platforms and capabilities for the 
warfighter, and ensure maximum availability and throughput from design 
to production to maintenance. A robust, resilient, and nimble 
industrial base and supply chain is critical to the long term strength 
of our Navy and Marine Corps. Funding predictability and long term 
planning are key elements in ensuring the efficiency of our 
acquisitions and maintenance processes in partnership with a supply 
chain calibrated to deliver maximum value to the taxpayer and 
warfighter.
    In order to ensure a strong and stable industrial base to meet our 
national security requirements, we must be clear and transparent as to 
our future needs and resource constraints, and fight requirements creep 
whenever possible. In turn, our partners must be transparent with us as 
well, managing costs, strengthening the workforce, and delivering 
platforms on-time and on-budget. Together, we must be good stewards of 
the taxpayer's money.
    President's Budget 2023 will strengthen our industrial base through 
targeted investments in supplier development, shipbuilder 
infrastructure, strategic outsourcing, and workforce development. This 
budget adds $543 million for submarine industrial base investment and 
funds for a predictable build plan of two SSNs and two DDGs per year. 
It maintains a public shipyard workforce at 37,000 full time equivalent 
workers, and funds 45 private ship maintenance availabilities.
    I have held multiple town hall meetings with industry partners to 
hear about their challenges when doing business with the DON, and 
seeking greater transparency and cooperation to pursue greater 
efficiency, innovation and teamwork. I have also made it clear that I 
expect DON suppliers and contractors to meet their small business 
commitments, and expand diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in 
their hiring and subcontracting, in order to expand the innovative 
private sector universe available to the DON to benefit the taxpayer 
and the warfighter.
Allies and Partners
    As strategic competitors pursue confrontation and coercion, we 
respond with alliances and partnerships, standing alongside a global 
community of nations in defense of our common values. I have witnessed 
the bonds between our sailors and marines working alongside their 
counterparts in Japan, the Republic of Korea, and elsewhere throughout 
the Indo-Pacific. I also saw the power of allied cooperation on recent 
trips to Europe, as I spoke with marines preparing for Exercise COLD 
RESPONSE in Norway, and sailors aboard USS Harry S. Truman carrying out 
tri-carrier maritime and air policing operations in the Mediterranean 
and North Aegean Sea alongside the Italian carrier Cavour and the 
French carrier Charles DeGaulle.
    These activities demonstrate the strength of our integrated 
deterrence, and the agility of our combined forces. Last year, USS 
Sullivans transited the Mediterranean, the Indian Ocean, and the 
Philippine Sea as part of the HMS Queen Elizabeth Carrier Strike Group, 
providing air defense and integrated operations alongside Royal Navy 
and Dutch destroyers, while also working with many allies and partners 
including Australia, France, Israel, Italy, New Zealand, Japan, 
Malaysia, Singapore, and more.
    HMS Queen Elizabeth Carrier Strike Group also featured United 
States Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 211 operating aboard the Royal 
Navy's flagship carrier. For seven months, the ``Wake Island Avengers'' 
operated ten F-35B Lightnings alongside eight Royal Air Force F-35Bs 
from the decks of HMS Queen Elizabeth. Our marine aviators have also 
operated the F-35B from the decks of Italy's Cavour and Japan's Izumo, 
proving the capability of this aircraft for true allied deck hopping, 
when paired with United States amphibious ships for aircraft 
maintenance and sustainment.
    President's Budget 2023 will strengthen global alliances and 
partnerships with funding for joint operations and exercises around the 
world, including CARAT, MALABAR, and BALIKITAN in the Indo-Pacific, 
NATO operations in the Mediterranean, and exercises in our own 
hemisphere like UNITAS. We will continue to strengthen military-to-
military relationships with existing allies, leverage specialized 
allied experience in regional operations, and expand and deepen our 
partnerships with like-minded nations around the world.
    We will continue to build opportunities for sailors, marines, and 
civilians to train, learn, and operate side-by side with their 
counterparts in partner and allied forces, and operationally integrate 
with our allies and partners through shared warfighting concepts, 
continually campaigning forward to deter adversaries and protect the 
rules based international order.
    Our sailors, marines and civilian personnel are warrior-diplomats 
for our Nation. Their professionalism and dedication promotes the 
connections that strengthen our collective security and cultivate 
shared ideals that send the message that the United States is a friend 
worth having.
                               conclusion
    The most important partnership for our Navy and Marine Corps Team 
is with the American people. They entrust us with their hard earned tax 
dollars, as well as the lives and wellbeing of their sons and 
daughters, mothers and fathers, husbands and wives who serve in our 
ranks. We will not fail in our sacred responsibility to the American 
people, and all who serve in the cloth of our Nation.
    On behalf of each of the brave sailors, marines, civilians, and the 
families that serve at their side, I once again thank the leadership 
and membership of this Committee for your oversight, interest, and 
ongoing commitment to the defense of the United States of America. It 
is an honor to work with each of you, and I look forward to your 
questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Admiral Gilday, 
please.

    STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL MICHAEL M. GILDAY, CHIEF OF NAVAL 
               OPERATIONS, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY

    Admiral Gilday. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished members of the Committee. Good morning and thank 
you for the opportunity to appear this morning with Secretary 
del Toro and General Berger.
    For nearly eight decades, America's naval superiority, 
maritime superiority has guaranteed security and prosperity 
across the world's oceans and has played a unique and 
predominant role in protecting our Nation's most vital national 
interests. Maintaining maritime superiority is fundamental to 
implementing our new National Defense Strategy.
    Global competition is heating up, the pace of innovation is 
accelerating, and the environment our naval forces are 
operating in every day is growing more transparent, more 
lethal, and definitely more contested. Everyone in this room is 
familiar with these trends, particularly China's massive 
investment in highly capable forces designed to deny our access 
to the oceans.
    Our Navy's role has never been more consequential or more 
expansive. America needs a combat credible naval force that can 
protect our interests in peace, and that can prevail in war. 
Not just today, but tomorrow, and for the long term competition 
that lies ahead.
    Our budget submission for the President's Budget Request 
for fiscal year 2023 reflects that imperative. It fully funds 
the Columbia-class submarine to ensure continuity for our 
Nation's most survivable strategic deterrent. It keeps our 
fleet ready to fight tonight, funding maintenance accounts, 
filling magazines with ammunition, putting spare parts in 
storerooms, and giving our sailors the steaming days and the 
flying hours they need to hone their skills.
    It modernizes our fleet by investing in weapons with 
increased range and speed, integrated systems to improve fleet 
survivability, and a resilient, cyber secure network 
infrastructure. It invests in affordable, capable capacity, 
building towards the goal of a larger, distributed, hybrid 
fleet in the decade ahead, and taking into account the insights 
that we are gaining on a monthly basis from our fleet battle 
problems with the United States Marine Corps, with exercises 
like Large Scale Exercise 2021, the largest in the world, last 
summer, and also just a few months ago, the world's largest 
international unmanned maritime exercise in the Middle East.
    These exercises and analysis and many others are helping us 
to refine our warfighting concepts, experiment with unmanned 
systems at speed--at the speed of innovation--and grow the 
fighting power of our Navy-Marine Corps team across all 
domains. The need to field a ready fleet today, as we are some 
simultaneously modernizing for the future, has forced us to 
make difficult decisions, including the decommissioning of 
platforms that do not bring the needed lethality to a high end 
fight in contested areas.
    While building this capacity at the expense of readiness 
and modernization can sound like an attractive option, it is 
not one that I endorse. We have been there before, and we have 
seen tragic results. I refuse to repeat it again. We cannot 
field a fleet larger than one we can sustain, and at today's 
fiscal levels, quantity simply cannot substitute for quality, 
especially as our adversaries are building advanced warfighting 
systems.
    Failing to modernize to meet those threats would erode 
America's maritime superiority at a time when command of the 
seas will decide the global strategic balance and power for the 
rest of this century. The stakes in this competition are 
extremely high, which is why U.S. sailors, Active and Reserve, 
uniformed and civilian are committed to strengthening our naval 
power every single day.
    Thank you again for inviting me to testify, and I am 
grateful for the Committee's support to our Navy and Marine 
Corps team. I look forward to answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Michael M. Gilday 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Michael M. Gilday
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on the 
posture of the United States Navy. Moreover, on behalf of all our 
sailors, Navy civilians, and their families, thank you for your 
continued leadership and support. With the funding authorized by 
Congress these last several years, we increased our readiness, 
modernized our capabilities, and kept our fleet deployed forward in the 
most critical regions of strategic competition.
    Since the founding of our Republic, the U.S. Navy has played a 
critical part in defending and advancing national policy by delivering 
sea power far from American shores. Our Navy's role--and consequently, 
its composition--has steadily evolved to ensure American security and 
defend our interests around the world. From our humble beginnings as a 
small maritime force, fending off pirates and protecting American 
shipping, we have become a globally postured fleet that underwrites 
world stability by deterring war, upholding international law, and 
assuring access to the maritime domain.
    Today, our Navy's mission has never been more consequential or 
expansive. We now face potential adversaries who are attempting to 
undermine the rules-based international order, aggressively modernizing 
their militaries, and fielding offensive warfighting capabilities at 
unprecedented speed and scale.
    This is a critical decade. Peaceful, free, and open oceans are 
vital to America's and our allies' security and prosperity in the 21st 
century. As global challengers rise, we must strengthen America's naval 
power to protect and defend our national interests.
            the maritime challenge to u.s. national security
    As a maritime nation, America's maritime superiority is a global 
imperative. Two expansive oceans connect us to our allies and trading 
partners. For all of us, our way of life depends upon free, open, and 
secure maritime areas. Sea control and power projection are essential 
to U.S. national security and long-term economic health. The People's 
Republic of China (PRC), our pacing threat, clearly recognizes this and 
has publically stated that it intends to grow its sphere of influence 
by challenging the United States' military access to the western 
Pacific.
    Over the past two decades, the PRC has built a comprehensive sea-
denial, anti-access system of sophisticated sensors and long-range 
precision weapons. Backed by a robust industrial base and the largest 
shipbuilding infrastructure in the world, the PRC has extensively 
modernized its military and tripled the size of the People's Liberation 
Army-Navy (PLAN). It is also building next-generation strategic missile 
submarines, erecting hundreds of new missile silos, and growing its 
cyber and space capabilities.
    Under the cover of this anti-access umbrella, the PRC has embraced 
the use of ``gray zone'' activities to turn incremental gains into 
long-term strategic advantages. Using a multi-layered fleet of naval 
ships, maritime militia, and coast guard, the PRC is undermining 
international norms by staking illegal maritime claims, militarizing 
geographic features in the South and East China Seas, and intimidating 
its neighbors regarding offshore resources. Additionally, the PRC is 
extending its global reach with its Belt and Road Initiative--
leveraging predatory lending practices, aggressive mercantilism backed, 
and hard military power--to access critical maritime terrain, ports, 
and waterways.
    Additional threats persist around the globe. Russia remains an 
acute threat, seeking to fracture NATO and reestablish its sphere of 
influence using a combination of diplomatic, economic, and military 
force. Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine has shattered the post-
Cold War peace in Europe. The support of like-minded nations for the 
brave citizens of Ukraine has reminded would-be aggressors of the 
global intensity of purpose to uphold a nation's inherent right to 
freedom. As the struggle continues, Russia is risking broader 
escalation with threats of nuclear attack, deployments of missile-
carrying submarines close to American and allied shores, and 
sophisticated cyber-attacks. North Korea continues to develop both 
nuclear and missile programs; Iran's missile program is also 
concerning. All the while, violent extremist organizations remain 
persistent threats.
    Other serious transboundary challenges, including climate change 
and emerging pathogens, are also increasing the complexity of the 
security environment. Strategic competitors and non-state actors are 
gaining access to cutting-edge commercial technologies and wielding 
them to disrupt America's interests and national security. Artificial 
intelligence, ubiquitous sensors, and long-range precision weapons are 
making contested spaces more transparent and more lethal, and these 
systems are proliferating globally at a rapid pace.
    These are several of the many considerations shaping the future 
strategic environment. When examined together, they illustrate the 
complexity of 21st century security challenges, particularly in the 
maritime domain. In a rapidly changing world, a formidable naval force 
is crucial to effectively implement the 2022 National Defense Strategy 
(NDS) and protect American security and prosperity. The Nation cannot 
afford to have its Navy to pull back and cede influence at a time of 
rising tensions and challenges to freedom of the seas. Nor can it 
afford our fleet to lose its warfighting advantage.
                         meeting the challenge
    Looking to the future, the U.S. Navy must continue to deploy our 
fleets forward to meet an unpredictable strategic environment. We must 
also modernize to field the most capable force possible against 
evolving threats. America needs a Navy capable of prevailing over any 
naval adversary to protect and sustain our interests worldwide and 
deter crises that could lead to war.
    Together with the U.S. Marine Corps and Coast Guard, we must 
deliver integrated all-domain naval power to the Joint Force: 
delivering the lethal, resilient, sustainable, survivable, agile, and 
responsive fleet that the NDS requires. Specifically, in support of NDS 
and Department of Defense requirements:
      The Navy must defend the Homeland with an assured nuclear 
deterrent from beneath the sea to deter all forms of strategic attack.
      The Navy must be capable of controlling the seas to deter 
aggression against our allies and partners, and project power ashore as 
an integral part of the Joint Force.
      The Navy must be able to distribute and mass effects, 
integrate with the Joint Force across all domains, and defeat adversary 
forces in conflict.
    To prevail in competition, crisis, and conflict, our naval forces 
must be combat-credible--measured by our ability to deliver lethal 
effects in contested and persistently surveilled battlespaces. We will 
deliver these forces by aligning our planning, resources, and 
investments with national policy end-state objectives:
    Strengthening Integrated Deterrence. Integrated deterrence is 
backstopped by a safe, secure and effect nuclear deterrent. The Navy 
operates and maintains the most survivable leg of the nation's nuclear 
triad. Our strategic submarines represent approximately 70 percent of 
America's deployed nuclear arsenal. Synchronized with the retirement of 
Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines, we must deliver Columbia-class 
submarines on time, as we continue to modernize our nuclear command, 
control, and communications systems and supporting infrastructure. 
These efforts are essential to ensure the United States can deter 
nuclear coercion or nuclear employment in any scenario.
    Deterrence also relies on forward-deployed, combat-credible 
conventional forces to control the seas and project power. These roles 
are central to integrated deterrence now and in the future. Employing a 
host of kinetic and non-kinetic effects launched from platforms on, 
under, and above the sea, conventional naval forces deploy globally to 
deter military aggression, support diplomacy, and give national leaders 
options to protect American interests across the spectrum of conflict. 
Should conflict arise, the Navy is consistently deployed forward to 
respond decisively, supporting the Joint Force to end hostilities on 
favorable U.S. terms.
    The Navy also provides the first physical line of U.S. Homeland 
Defense, preventing potential adversaries from using the oceans to 
directly threaten America or our allies and partners. No other element 
of national power can fulfill this role across every domain, from the 
seabed to space.
    Campaigning forward. Naval forces across the globe provide the 
United States strategic advantages in power projection, diplomacy, 
influence, and flexibility, without over reliance on access to overseas 
land bases. Our enduring, forward posture in support of the Joint Force 
guarantees our Nation the ability to respond to crisis, blunt gray-zone 
incrementalism, and preserve a stable and secure global maritime order. 
The Navy's global maneuverability supports diplomacy, reassures our 
allies, and generates favorable influence in key regions.
    Our alliances and partnerships remain our key strategic advantage. 
They recognize U.S. naval forces as their on-scene partner for building 
combined maritime strength. Every day, the Navy operates forward 
alongside allies and partners through combined operations, theater 
security cooperation, and capacity-building initiatives. These 
activities strengthen interoperability, increase information sharing, 
and build capacity for resilient, integrated logistics. Working 
together--particularly with interoperable, critical-capability allies--
we strengthen our ability to prevail in conflict and further bolster 
integrated deterrence by demonstrating a united front against potential 
adversaries.
    In September of last year, President Biden announced a trilateral 
security agreement between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the 
United States (known as AUKUS). The announcement launched an intensive 
18-month consultation period among the three governments to seek an 
optimal pathway for delivering a conventionally-armed, nuclear-powered 
submarine capability to Australia at the earliest achievable date. The 
Navy is playing a key leadership role in developing this plan to ensure 
that our Nation's preeminent expertise is applied to the nuclear-
powered submarine initiative. We are focused on ensuring Australia 
understands the full scope of capabilities necessary to design, build, 
operate, and maintain a nuclear navy. AUKUS represents a tremendous 
strategic opportunity for the United States to expand our cooperation 
and collaboration with two of our closest allies, and we are on pace to 
respond to the President's tasking.
    The Navy is also uniquely equipped to contest gray zone 
incrementalism by our adversaries. Gray zone aggression thrives with 
non-attribution. The best way to oppose these activities is to deny our 
adversaries anonymity with persistent domain awareness, the effective 
leveraging of intelligence, and the agile application of sea power. 
Together with whole-of-government partners, the Navy exposes malign 
behavior, imposes reputational costs, diminishes the effectiveness of 
propaganda, and galvanizes international resistance.
    Building enduring warfighting advantages. Based on the PRC's 
current and long-term security challenge, the Navy must set a stable 
and sustainable trajectory to a larger and more capable force now. To 
ensure we remain adaptable and relevant, our future force design relies 
on six overarching imperatives to sustain our warfighting advantage, 
expand our options, and constrain those of our adversaries:
    Expand Distance. Long-range precision fires across all domains--and 
platforms with greater reach--enable naval forces to strike hostile 
targets while increasing our survivability.
    Leverage Deception. Deceptive measures--including stealth, 
concealment and maneuver, emissions control, and electronic warfare--
degrade enemy surveillance and increase adversary uncertainty, enabling 
naval forces to operate effectively in contested seas.
    Harden Defense. Integrating directed energy with hard-kill and 
soft-kill defensive systems disrupts attacks and keeps naval forces 
survivable when targeted by adversaries.
    Increase Distribution. Distributing naval forces geographically and 
in all domains enables them to threaten an adversary from multiple 
attack axes. Smaller, lethal, and less costly platforms--including 
manned, unmanned, and optionally-manned--further complicate threat 
targeting, generate confusion, and pose dilemmas for our adversaries.
    Ensure Delivery. Resilient logistics connecting the foundry to the 
fleet--enabled by secure communications and information technology--
refuel, rearm, resupply, repair, and revive distributed naval forces 
down to the last tactical mile.
    Generate Decision Advantage. Naval forces will out-sense, out-
decide, and out-fight any adversary by accelerating our decision cycles 
with secure, survivable, and resilient networks, accurate data, and 
artificial intelligence. Connecting sensors, weapons, and decision-
makers across all domains enables naval forces to mass firepower and 
influence without massing forces.
    These six force design imperatives enable Distributed Maritime 
Operations (DMO), the Navy's foundational operating concept of our 
team-centric Fleet construct. Today's priority investments are 
delivering on these imperatives. For example:
      Investments in hypersonic weapons, space-based 
capabilities, unmanned tanking, and long-range precision fires deliver 
capabilities for effects at an expanded distance.
      Investments in undersea platforms, weapons, and systems, 
next-generation aircraft and surface platforms, cyber capabilities, 
counter-surveillance, and integrated weapons systems deliver increased 
deception and defense.
      Investments in smaller, lethal platforms, autonomous 
systems in all domains, artificial intelligence, resilient logistics, 
and integrated combat systems and networks enable a more distributed 
fleet, the delivery to sustain it, and expand our decision advantage 
against peer adversaries.
                accelerating america's advantage at sea
    The Navy is implementing the 2022 NDS, preparing for the challenges 
ahead of us, and accelerating America's enduring advantage at sea. 
Within the scope of the President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request, we 
are delivering a combat-credible Navy designed to deter conflict and 
help win our Nation's wars as we maintain a global posture to assure 
our prosperity. To do this, we remain focused on four priorities: 
Readiness, Capabilities, Capacity, and our sailors.
    These four priorities are especially relevant because of today's 
fiscal environment. We face the simultaneous task of recapitalizing our 
strategic nuclear deterrent, our century-old dry dock facilities, and 
our strategic sealift capacity. These programs are all critical to our 
national defense. Meanwhile, Navy manpower, operations, and maintenance 
costs continue to grow above the rate of inflation. This means we must 
carefully invest in capabilities and capacity that offer the most 
significant payoff and warfighting value for strategic competition.
    Based on these priorities, I have consistently said that the Navy's 
size--our capacity--ultimately will be dictated by the budget's top 
line. We will not field a fleet larger than we can sustain. We also 
will not grow the Navy at the expense of building the Columbia--our top 
acquisition priority. Nor will we increase capacity by failing to 
modernize and sacrificing our combat credibility.
    The U.S. Navy cannot outpace an increasingly capable PRC by 
retaining platforms that are decreasingly relevant in modern naval 
warfare. While some of these platforms may have day-to-day utility in 
permissive environments, the Navy's first obligation is to deliver a 
ready, combat-credible fleet with the funding Congress appropriates. 
Simply maintaining the capabilities of today's fleet will be 
insufficient to both preserve our long-term interests and protect 
America. Quantity is not synonymous with quality. We must modernize to 
maintain our maritime edge.
    Therefore, our focus is on delivering capable capacity. America 
needs a modern strategic deterrent; greater numbers of undersea 
capabilities; more distributable surface combatants; a host of manned, 
unmanned, and optionally-manned platforms--under, on, and above the 
seas; and a resilient logistics enterprise to sustain our distributed 
naval force. Based on past and ongoing force structure analysis, it is 
my best military advice that the size of the Navy grows to a 500-ship 
hybrid fleet by 2045. Integrated with the Joint Force and interoperable 
with our allies and partners, this all-domain, hybrid fleet will ensure 
our maritime superiority.
    Our Navigation Plan Implementation Framework supports these 
priorities, implementing lines of effort to deliver measurable 
outcomes, driving a new Force Design process to improve our agility, 
and energizing a fleet-wide movement to strengthen our learning 
culture. Our Navy is addressing the challenges we face with clarity, 
determination, and urgency. We made significant progress over the past 
2 years, and we are continuing to press forward to deliver the 
readiness, the capabilities, the platforms, and the people necessary to 
protect the American people and our interests around the world.
                               readiness
    To accelerate America's advantage at sea, we must prioritize 
readiness to keep combat-credible forces forward to deter conflict and 
protect the free and open system underpinning American security and 
prosperity. Our competitors are increasing their naval power every day, 
and their malign behavior and growing presence worldwide places an 
enormous demand on our forces. Moreover, the Russian invasion of 
Ukraine and ensuing global instability have provided a stark reminder 
of why the Navy must be ready to deploy globally in defense of U.S. 
interests. In fiscal year 2021, the Navy-Marine Corps team executed 
more than 22,000 steaming days and more than one million flying hours. 
Because naval forces remain in high demand, President's Fiscal Year 
2023 Budget Request emphasizes critical aspects of our readiness.
    The Navy continues to make readiness gains with increased shipboard 
manning, better maintenance performance, increased weapon inventories, 
more training for our crews, and enhanced spare parts availability. 
Sustained funding and systematic reforms throughout the fleet have 
enabled those readiness gains. Despite this momentum, we are not 
satisfied. Our focus remains on continuous improvement.
    Deploying combat-credible forces starts with performing high-
quality maintenance on time and in full. To this end, we are using 
data-driven reforms such as Performance-to-Plan (P2P), the Naval 
Sustainment System (NSS), and other initiatives to improve maintenance 
processes, increase operational availability, and save taxpayer 
dollars. We continue to see positive results with these methods, 
especially in our aviation community. By leveraging the power of the 
aviation Maintenance Operations Center (MOC), we sustained a mission-
capable rate of 80 percent for our F/A-18E/F Super Hornets across three 
consecutive fiscal years. Additionally, we have seen five more aircraft 
types achieve this high mission-capable rate as we have incorporated 
them into the MOC construct over the last 18 months. With more aircraft 
available, our aircrews are more ready to dominate the skies than at 
any point over the last decade.
    We continue to take a similar, data-driven approach to improve 
surface ship maintenance, and we see positive results across the fleet. 
Since fiscal year 2020, P2P-driven improvements--such as the goal of 
awarding contracts 120 days before the start of a maintenance 
availability, level loading ports through better prediction of 
workload, better availability planning, and improved long-lead-time 
material acquisition--have generated a 58 percent decrease in days of 
maintenance delay. President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request 
prioritizes private sector ship depot maintenance in line with enacted 
fiscal year 2022 levels to provide industry with a stable and 
predictable demand signal. The Other Procurement, Navy (OPN) pilot, is 
seeing positive early results, including more efficient use of 
contracted ship maintenance throughout the entirety of the fiscal year, 
improved on-time delivery of long-lead time materials, and reduced 
impact of growth and new work. We are grateful for the support from 
Congress in continuing this budgetary authority.
    Despite COVID-19, public shipyards have also seen improvements over 
the last 2 years, with fewer maintenance delay days and increased on-
time completion percentages. However, submarine maintenance remains a 
pressing challenge. We are working hard to reduce submarine idle time 
at public shipyards by conducting thorough, early material condition 
assessments to reduce Days of Maintenance Delay and maximize 
operational availability. Through the Performance to Plan-Shipyard 
(P2P-SY) and Naval Sustainment System-Shipyard (NSS-SY) efforts, we 
continue to focus on achieving on-time maintenance availability 
completion. We are looking for opportunities to balance public and 
private sector workload and maintain a healthy industrial base for 
submarine maintenance and new construction. In addition, we are 
creating a Long Range (15-year) SSN Depot Maintenance Plan to improve 
workload forecasting in both the public and private sectors for fiscal 
year 2023 and beyond.
    Sustaining our platforms also requires critical investments in our 
infrastructure ashore. Our worldwide constellation of bases must be 
capable of sustaining and supporting our fleet at sea, including our 
public shipyards and aviation depots. The average age of U.S. naval 
shipyard facilities and related infrastructure is 61 years, while the 
average dry dock age is approaching 100 years. Our Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program (SIOP) provides a strategic roadmap 
for necessary investments in dry docks, capital equipment, and layout 
optimization of these vital national assets. President's Fiscal Year 
2023 Budget Request prioritizes SIOP, investing over $1.7 billion in 
fiscal year 2023, including funding for three major shipyard projects. 
Additionally, the Fleet Readiness Centers Infrastructure Modernization 
and Optimization Plan (FIOP) will ensure our industrial facilities are 
resilient and optimized to maintain both legacy and next-generation 
aircraft, and their associated weapon systems.
    Our commitment to improving readiness also includes our information 
forces. We have established a dedicated team to improve our ability to 
generate and deploy forces for cyberspace operations. We are learning 
from other highly technical warfighting domains such as aviation and 
nuclear power to keep pace with cyber-force growth. This effort looks 
at all aspects of our readiness to include recruiting, training, 
assignment, and retention. This comprehensive review sets a course for 
the Navy to meet and sustain United States Cyber Command's demand.
    Readiness also extends to the training facilities that generate 
warfighting advantages. The modernization and expansion of the Fallon 
Range Training Complex (FRTC) is critical. As the capabilities and 
ranges of our platforms have grown, our training ranges have not. The 
FRTC is now far too small to allow carrier-based aircraft to adequately 
train for high-end conflict with precision-guided weapons, and it is 
too small for SEALs to conduct mobility maneuver training in a 
realistic tactical environment. Our sailors need the most realistic 
training possible if they are going to defeat a strategic competitor. 
FRTC modernization will ensure that future generations of warfighters 
remain the most effective in the world. We understand the challenges 
associated with this project, and we are deeply committed to listening 
and working with every stakeholder towards a mutually acceptable 
modernization plan.
                              capabilities
    To accelerate America's advantage at sea, we must modernize our 
capabilities to credibly deter war and, if necessary, win in conflict. 
Disruptive technologies are changing the potential applications and 
impacts of military activities from the seafloor to space. Artificial 
intelligence, machine learning, autonomy, quantum computing, and new 
communications technology are transforming the character of future 
warfare. Modern naval warfare demands integrated systems, resilient 
kill chains, better terminal defense, and a robust logistical footprint 
to support a more distributed force. Transitioning to these 
capabilities will increase our deterrence posture by expanding our 
ability to distribute our forces and mass effects.
    As we build and put to sea a force able to deter and, if necessary, 
defeat a strategic competitor, we must prioritize capabilities that 
support Distributed Maritime Operations, or DMO--our previously 
mentioned foundational operating concept. Kinetic and non-kinetic 
effects must be distributed geographically--on, under, and above the 
seas--as well as in the information environment, the cyber domain, the 
electromagnetic spectrum, and in space. To operate effectively, 
platforms, sensors, and weapons must all operate and work together as 
one cohesive, integrated team. The teams are centered on our Numbered 
Fleet construct--our cross-domain contribution to the Joint Force. The 
Navy must empower these teams through secure, survivable, resilient, 
and common networks. Project Overmatch will deliver the Naval 
Operational Architecture (NOA), the Navy's contribution to Joint All-
Domain Command and Control (JADC2) making major improvements in both 
resilience and capability to plan, coordinate and execute missions as a 
critical member of the Joint Force. President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget 
Request includes $195 million in fiscal year 2023 and $898 million 
across the Future Years Defense Program for core activities of Project 
Overmatch, which is an increase of $122 million in fiscal year 2023. 
This increase represents a deliberate and executable investment to 
accelerate the delivery of NOA Increment 1 to carrier strike groups by 
next year.
    Strategic competitors are continuing to develop sophisticated 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities that 
complicate our operations globally. Our President's Fiscal Year 2023 
Budget Request investments accelerate and enhance core Counter-Command, 
Control, Communications, Computers, Combat Systems, Intelligence, 
Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and Targeting (C-C5ISRT) activities that 
generate warfighting advantage by degrading adversaries' understanding 
of the operational environment. In support of both offensive and 
defensive DMO, these investments integrate three Counter C5ISR&T tenets 
required to sustain operations in a contested environment with 
acceptable risk: (1) understand the risk of detection posed by 
adversary capabilities; (2) orchestrate actions to reduce naval units' 
targetability; (3) synchronize delivery of kinetic and non-kinetic 
effects.
    As an example, to pace the growing air and missile defense threat 
set, the Navy developed and approved a strategy over the past budget 
cycle to deliver enhanced radar sensitivity and electronic warfare 
capabilities to our DDG Flt IIA ships. This strategy is called DDG Mod 
``2.0'' and includes the back-fit installation of the Shipboard 
Electronic Warfare Improvement Plan (SEWIP) Block 3, adding enhanced 
capabilities to current SEWIP Block 2; a 24 Radar Module Assembly SPY-6 
radar to replace SPY-1; and Aegis Baseline 10.
    President's Budget 2023 also includes investments in developing and 
demonstrating conventional sea-based hypersonic strike weapon systems. 
The Navy Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS) Program Office and Army 
Hypersonic Project Office are using a common missile design and joint 
test opportunities to field non-nuclear hypersonic weapon systems. In 
2021, we conducted two First Stage and one Second Stage Solid Rocket 
Motor static fires, marking the first successful tests of the newly 
developed missile. The CPS Program also completed an eight-shot Solid 
Slug Launch Test Campaign, which provided initial validation of the 
cold-gas launch approach for use on Navy platforms. Stable funding at 
the requested level will keep this critical capability on track to 
field on Zumwalt-class DDGs followed by Virginia-class SSNs equipped 
with the Block V Virginia Payload Module.
    We are incorporating other long-range, highly capable weapons into 
our magazines to improve lethality across domains. President's Fiscal 
Year 2023 Budget Request sustains the production of the Blk-I/IA SM-6 
and the modernized Blk-V Tomahawk Missile, and it funds the transition 
of the Maritime Strike Tomahawk to a Program of Record. Additionally, 
we are arming our submarines with better MK-48 Heavyweight Torpedoes 
and pursuing more advanced variants. We are also improving the 
effectiveness of our fighter aircraft, extending their all-domain reach 
with the Advanced Anti-radiation Guided Missile, AIM-120 Advanced 
Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile, and Long-Range Anti-Ship Missile. 
Altogether, the weapons procurement in President's Fiscal Year 2023 
Budget Request is our best capability insurance against near-term 
threat escalation while keeping us postured for the future.
    In parallel, we are maturing multiple directed energy projects to 
improve overall fleet survivability in contested environments. We have 
successfully deployed three directed energy weapons systems in the 7th 
and 5th Fleets to support Counter-ISRT and Counter-Unmanned Aerial 
Vehicle missions. To reach our goal of ``bottomless'' magazines, we 
will need continued advancements and investments in directed energy, 
scaling and platforms with enough space, weight, power, and cooling 
(SWAP-C). President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request funds $262 
million across the Future Years Defense Program to install the eighth 
Optical Dazzling Interdictor and provides continued funding for Solid 
State Laser-Technology Maturation, High Energy Laser with Integrated 
Optical dazzler and Surveillance (HELIOS), and the High Energy Laser 
Counter Anti-Ship Cruise Missile Project (HELCAP). Our future Navy 
surface combatants, such as FFG-62 and DDG(X), include SWAP-C 
reservations to accommodate such systems. We are taking a truly 
holistic view of this emerging portfolio to carefully incorporate 
directed energy into the fleet in an evolutionary way.
                                capacity
    To accelerate America's advantage at sea, the Navy will build a 
combat-credible, hybrid fleet, bolstered by mature, cost-effective 
unmanned technologies and operational concepts. A new platform can take 
up to a decade to go through the planning process, receive 
authorization from Congress, and complete construction before joining 
the fleet. To keep up with the accelerating pace of innovation, the 
Navy must build future platforms with modernization in mind--hardware 
upgradeable and software updateable at the speed of innovation.
    Our number one acquisition priority remains the on-time delivery of 
the Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine, which constitutes our 
Nation's most secure and reliable strategic nuclear deterrent. Together 
with the Trident II D5LE2 Strategic Weapons System (SWS), Columbia will 
ensure the effectiveness and availability of the Nation's Sea-Based 
Strategic Deterrent through the 2080s. With the Ohio-class submarines 
nearing the end of their service life, there is no further margin for 
delays in this once-in-a-generation program without impacting U.S. 
Strategic Command requirements. Columbia must be on patrol no later 
than October 2030. The first submarine began construction last year, 
with the second boat on track for procurement next fiscal year. We will 
continue to advocate for aggressive construction schedules and 
incorporate ``lead ship learning'' to guarantee on-time delivery of the 
entire class to ensure this national asset's capability in the decades 
ahead. Columbia will continue to grow substantially as a proportion of 
the total shipbuilding budget beginning in fiscal year 2026, exceeding 
25 percent when Columbia enters full-rate production.
    Sea control and sea denial from beneath the waves are among our 
Navy's core advantages, and we refuse to yield any ground to the 
competition. President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request underscores 
our sustained support for procuring two Virginia-class submarines per 
year, and it invests in developing a follow-on attack submarine 
program, SSN(X), which will be key to sustaining our undersea 
advantage--setting the conditions for the warfighting advantage of our 
fleet.
    Unmanned systems will play a key role in DMO. We released the 
Unmanned Campaign Framework in March 2021 to serve as the comprehensive 
strategy for a future wherein unmanned systems serve as an integral 
part of the Navy's warfighting team. U.S. 3rd Fleet executed Unmanned 
Integrated Battle Problem 2021 to integrate manned and unmanned 
capabilities in operational scenarios. To further operationalize the 
Campaign Plan, we established Task Force 59 (CTF-59) to accelerate 
unmanned and AI solutions, demonstrating the importance of warfighters 
and industry partners in operational experimentation with available 
technologies. We intend to scale these lessons to 7th Fleet. We also 
continued work with partners and allies in events such as NATO Maritime 
Unmanned Systems Initiative Exercises and International Maritime 
Exercise 2022.
    We completed MQ-25A ``T1'' aircraft in-flight refueling of Navy 
carrier-based aircraft and its first carrier demonstration and 
completed over 4000 hours and 46,000 nautical miles of USV operations. 
Additionally, we recently established the Unmanned Task Force, a cross-
functional team focusing on rapid experimentation and solving 
operational problems to quickly inform acquisition strategies. The 
focus remains on enabling technologies to provide near-term capability, 
take an evolutionary approach, and lay the foundation for the future 
hybrid fleet.
    This year, we celebrated the centennial of our aircraft carriers. 
They have proven to be the most survivable and versatile airfields in 
the world, and our nuclear-powered carriers will remain a cornerstone 
of the Navy's conventional deterrence for decades to come. USS Gerald 
R. Ford (CVN 78) achieved Initial Operating Capability in December 
2021, completed flight deck certification, and is scheduled to deploy 
later this year. President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request supports 
procuring our follow-on aircraft carriers. CVN 79 construction is 85 
percent complete and on track to deliver in fiscal year 2024; CVN 80 
construction is 12 percent complete and scheduled to deliver in fiscal 
year 2028.
    The sustained striking power and adaptability of our Carrier Air 
Wing is vital to controlling the seas and projecting power in contested 
environments. Today's air wings are more capable than ever with the 
addition of the F-35C, the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, and the CMV-22B 
Osprey. Carrier Air Wing TWO recently completed a deployment with these 
capabilities, showcasing the cutting-edge lethality of naval airpower. 
President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request adds to our F-35 inventory 
to expand our fourth- and fifth-generation fighter mix, and it funds 
the unmanned MQ-25 Stingray, on track to deploy in 2026, which greatly 
extends the reach of our Carrier Air Wings into contested battlespaces.
    We are also laying the groundwork for tomorrow's air wing through 
the Next Generation Air Dominance portfolio. This highly networked 
sixth-generation family of systems will leverage manned-unmanned 
teaming to further advance the cross-domain lethality of our air wings 
in contested battlespaces. Delivering this capability is vital to 
outpace PRC fighter development.
    Our future fleet design places emphasis on a balance of greater 
numbers of large and small surface combatants as the foundation of 
distributed operations. Our newest class, the Constellation-class 
frigate, is a versatile, multi-mission platform that will support 
operations across the spectrum of conflict. The future large surface 
combatant, DDG(X), will bring additional space, weight, and power to 
support evolving capabilities for a high-end fight. Together, these two 
ship classes will form the center of our cross-domain teams, bringing 
more lethality, survivability, and endurance to the fleet.
    The Naval logistics enterprise continues to become increasingly 
agile and resilient to deliver the means to refuel, rearm, resupply, 
repair, and revive distributed forces, ensuring the Joint Force stays 
combat credible against any adversary. Over the past 2 years, we have 
improved our afloat fuel distribution systems, introduced more secure 
digital systems for better logistics planning and execution, and 
validated our Future Afloat Logistics Forces Initial Capabilities 
Document, which defines the capabilities and capacities needed to 
sustain naval forces. Adequate capacity is a continuing challenge and 
President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request pursues several platform 
solutions to close the gaps we have identified, including the continued 
construction of the John Lewis (T-AO 205) Class Fleet Replenishment 
Oiler Program, the Submarine Tender AS(X), and continued research and 
development to support the Next Generation Logistics Ship. 
Additionally, we are continuing to leverage the generous authorities 
Congress has provided us to renew our surge sealift capacity with used 
vessels, helping us meet combatant commander readiness requirements. We 
are grateful for this Committee's support.
                                sailors
    To accelerate America's advantage at sea, we must invest in 
trained, resilient, and educated sailors who can adapt faster than our 
adversaries in today's rapidly changing strategic environment. Our 
sailors and civilians remain the true source of our naval power. We 
must continue to prioritize and care for them. From culture to training 
and education, to overall health and wellness, President's Fiscal Year 
2023 Budget Request supports the most important element of our Navy--
our people.
    History shows that the navy which adapts, learns, and improves the 
fastest gains an enduring warfighting advantage. The essential element 
in doing so is fostering a healthy ecosystem--a culture--that assesses, 
corrects, solves problems, and learns faster than the opposition. Our 
``Get Real, Get Better'' movement will help us reduce the variability 
in performance between our best and worst performers. Get Real, Get 
Better will train and educate our leaders on the leadership behaviors 
required to create this culture, along with the supporting tools to 
solve our hardest problems. Focusing on our people, and their leaders, 
will further expand the asymmetric advantage that is the American 
Sailor.
    Through the Ready Relevant Learning (RRL) initiative, we are 
providing sailors with practical, accessible knowledge and skills that 
can adapt to the needs of the Navy. Today, RRL provides timely, 
relevant training using an agile, multi-path approach to ensure our 
operators have the knowledge they need on the deck plates to succeed in 
combat. RRL supplements our traditional brick-and-mortar schoolhouses 
with modern, multi-media, multi-platform solutions. Recently, we 
transitioned 8 enlisted ratings to this model and completed 
requirements development for 39 additional ratings. With the funds 
provided by President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request, the Navy will 
advance the Career Long Learning Continuum effort, which is critical to 
the program goal of maintaining continuity and currency of individual 
training.
    The Navy has prioritized the Fleet Training Wholeness initiative to 
integrate live platforms and simulators across our strike groups. This 
initiative funds Live, Virtual, Constructive (LVC) unit and strike 
group training. In the fleet, LVC continues to be a game-changer in 
training our combat leaders. From the pilot in the cockpit to the 
technician on the radar scope, LVC allows all domains to train together 
at unprecedented levels of integration and complexity. President's 
Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request builds upon the continued integration 
of live ranges, ships at sea, and aviation shore simulators, and 
includes funding to integrate aircraft and information warfare systems 
and capabilities into LVC training. These investments are advancing our 
sailors' tactical skills and proficiency against our most advanced 
competitors.
    Building upon the momentum of the Navy's Culture of Excellence 
campaign, we will implement a holistic and prevention-based Total 
Sailor Fitness framework. This effort will maximize sailor, unit, and 
organizational performance while improving sailor trust, resilience, 
mental health, connectedness, and behavioral metrics. Our Warrior 
Toughness program enables better performance before, during, and after 
critical events, providing concepts and skills to develop peak 
performance and make sailors more resilient and ready for the Fleet. We 
integrate these programs into the curricula of the Recruit Training 
Command, Officer Training Command, United States Naval Academy, and our 
NROTC units. As we drive forward with this Culture of Excellence, the 
Navy seeks to put the most combat-credible sailors to sea--first-rate 
warriors who are willing and able to defend our Nation.
    In addition, suicide prevention, Sexual Assault Prevention and 
Response (SAPR), and Diversity, Equity and Inclusion remain pillars on 
which the Culture of Excellence will continue to build. As part of our 
suicide prevention efforts, the Sailor Assistance and Intercept for 
Life Program provides rapid assistance, ongoing risk management, 
coordination of care, and reintegration assistance for at-risk 
servicemembers. Continued resourcing of this program saves lives. A 
full continuum of mental health and wellness support is also available 
worldwide, including at specialty and primary care clinics, Navy 
installation counseling centers, on the waterfront, embedded within the 
Fleet, and via virtual health platforms. Non-medical mental health 
services are available for sailors and their family members through 
Fleet and Family Support Centers, Military and Family Life Counseling, 
and Military OneSource. Navy Chaplains provide confidential counseling 
and are essential in ensuring the spiritual readiness and resiliency of 
the Naval Force. There is ``no wrong door'' for our sailors to get 
help.
    The Navy is leveraging metric-based, sexual assault data to better 
understand sexual assault risk factors. This strengthens our SAPR 
programs with research-informed approaches to prevention programs and 
policies. We are also implementing recommendations from the Independent 
Review Commission on Sexual Assault in the Military, using a 
deliberate, methodical approach to improve accountability, prevention, 
climate, culture, and victim care and support. These include addressing 
gaps in leader training to develop inclusive cultures that foster 
healthy command climates, providing sexual harassment victims with SAPR 
victim advocacy services, completing a SAPR Workforce Study to ensure 
unfettered support to sexual assault victims that phases out non-
deployable collateral duty victim response personnel, and the phased 
hiring and integration of a primary prevention workforce.
    The Navy is building a force that looks like the Nation we serve. 
We benefit from our sailors' talent, experience, and insights. Today, 
the Navy is more demographically diverse than ever before. As we strive 
to become a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive force, we have built 
on lessons learned from our findings in Task Force One Navy, 
implementing 36 task force recommendations, with 18 more in progress. 
We must actively include all perspectives to harness the creative power 
of diversity, accelerating the Navy's warfighting advantage.
    To support our sailors, increase productivity, and generate cost 
efficiencies, the Navy is modernizing its Manpower, Personnel, 
Training, and Education Enterprise. Our Human Resources (HR) processes 
and operations have not fundamentally evolved in over 70 years. For too 
long, we have been managing our force with over 55 aging information 
technology systems, some of which are over 40 years old. These systems 
are not interoperable and do not provide a single authoritative data 
source. MyNavy HR Transformation is fixing this. We continue to make 
strides towards our Navy Personnel and Pay system rollout, which is an 
important foundational step for the overall transformation. By 
synchronizing and streamlining all aspects of personnel readiness, this 
overhaul will improve the lives of all sailors and their families.
    The Navy is a family, and our families serve along with us. Having 
witnessed the steadfast resilience of Navy families every day of my 
career, I have made it a daily practice to think about how to improve 
their lives. As all servicemembers know, when we take care of them, 
they take care of us.
                               conclusion
    The U.S. Navy's mission has never been more essential for the 
preservation of American security and prosperity. Facing increasingly 
aggressive challengers, the Navy's priorities--Readiness, Capabilities, 
Capacity, and our sailors--will help us maintain our combat credibility 
in contested seas.
    We will need Congress's continued support. Since 2010, the Navy's 
buying power has not kept pace with inflation. ``Must pay'' once-in-a-
generation strategic deterrence recapitalization and once-in-a-century 
shipyard infrastructure investments--along with rising readiness, 
labor, and material costs--are consuming larger shares of the Navy's 
budget. This loss in buying power has delayed modernization, reduced 
procurement, and constrained our ability to grow the force. To 
simultaneously modernize and build the capacity of our fleet, the Navy 
would need sustained budget growth at three-to-five percent above 
actual inflation. Short of that, we will prioritize capability over 
capacity. This will decrease the size of the fleet until we can deploy 
smaller, more cost-effective, and more autonomous force packages at 
scale.
    The investments we make this decade will determine the maritime 
balance of power for the rest of this century. Ships, submarines, and 
aircraft are undoubtedly expensive instruments of national power, as 
are the associated costs of maintaining them at a high level of 
readiness. But history shows that without a powerful Navy, the price 
tag is much higher.
    On behalf of more than 600,000 Active and Reserve sailors and Navy 
civilians, thank you for allowing me to testify today. I am grateful to 
this Committee and to your colleagues in Congress for your steadfast 
commitment to the Navy. We look forward to sailing alongside you to 
sustain our advantage at sea.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral Gilday. General Berger, 
please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL DAVID H. BERGER, COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE 
                 CORPS, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY

    General Berger. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished members of the Committee, as we sit here this 
morning in a backdrop of a war raging in Ukraine and the malign 
activities that are ongoing in the Indo-Pacific, it is a good 
reminder for me that we don't have the luxury of building a 
Joint Force for one threat, for one region, for one form of 
warfare. We have to be prepared for the full range of 
operations, in places we might not expect, and probably on 
timelines we didn't anticipate.
    That is why your Marine Corps' ability to respond to crisis 
in any clime and place is essential to our national security. 
Three years ago, as the chairman and ranking mentioned, we 
embarked on an ambitious program of modernization in an effort 
to ensure that your Marine Corps could continue to meet its 
statutory role as America's force in readiness. With the 
bipartisan support of the members of this Committee, that 
modernization effort is on track and is building momentum.
    Over the past 3 years, your Marine Corps has self-funded 
$17 billion worth of modernization. Today, I would like to 
offer you an update in three areas where we have seen 
significant progress over the past 12 months. First, over the 
last 18 months, out in Twentynine Palms, California, which is 
our live fire maneuver training site, we have conducted nine 
force-on-force exercises over the past year and a half. Here is 
what we have learned, and these lessons--these learned lessons 
have really validated what we thought from the beginning.
    Basically, that smaller, more mobile, more distributed 
units, if they can employ 21st century combined arms and they 
have organic Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance 
(ISR) and they have loitering munitions, they are more lethal 
than larger units that employ traditional sorts of force 
structures and traditional concepts.
    That is entirely consistent so far with what we have seen 
in Ukraine. In less than 2 years, we formalized a concept for 
Stand-In Forces and we built a capability that has dramatically 
expanded what we can achieve in support of both land and 
maritime operations. One of those Stand-In Forces is now 
forward deployed in Europe. As the U.S. European Command 
(EUCOM) Commander recently testified here in D.C., his words, 
that force is precious for effective deterrence.
    Second, we have achieved some important operational 
milestones. This year, we are going to deploy the Amphibious 
Combat Vehicle (ACV) for the first time aboard ship on a Marine 
Expeditionary Unit. We will retire the Amphibious Assault 
Vehicle (AAV), the aging AAV, ahead of schedule. We are doing 
that because of the support of this Committee. This year marked 
the first deployment of an F-35B squadron aboard an allied 
carrier, the first deployment of an F-35C squadron aboard a 
Navy carrier, U.S. Navy carrier.
    In fact, some of you all probably heard the brief from 
VMFA-211 aboard the HMS Queen Elizabeth. That was, in our 
opinion, a significant advancement in not just 
interoperability, but interchangeability with both United 
Kingdom jets and Marine Corps United States jets WF-35s, on 
board the Queen Elizabeth. That is how you commit to allies and 
partners.
    The Marine Expeditionary Unit, the MEU, enabled by 
amphibious ships, is the crown jewel of our naval expeditionary 
forces. No naval vessel in our inventory is capable of 
supporting a wider set of missions than the amphibious warship. 
Secretary Del Toro, the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), and I 
all agree that the minimum number of L-class traditional 
warships, amphibious warships the U.S. needs is 31, and your 
support for sustaining that minimum capacity is essential to 
national security.
    Finally, this past year, we published a plan to modernize 
our personnel system. That will allow us to better recruit, 
train, align the skills of individual marines, retain them, 
match them with the needs of the Marine Corps. All that said, 
what the Marine Corps does for this Nation will not change.
    We remain America's force in readiness. We are capable of a 
diverse set of missions across the operational spectrum. But 
how we accomplish those missions is changing, and your support 
is critical to our collective success.
    In closing, would just like to offer to Ranking Member 
Inhofe our sincere gratitude for the three of us for your 50 
years of public service. Army veteran, State Legislator, Mayor, 
U.S. Representative, Senator, just on behalf of the sailors and 
marines and all of us here at this table, thank you, sir, for 
your years of service.
    With that, I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Berger follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General David H. Berger
                              introduction
    Chair, Ranking Member, and distinguished Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to present this annual report and share 
my perspective on the opportunities and challenges confronting your 
Marine Corps, the naval services, and the larger joint force. As recent 
events in Ukraine so clearly illustrate, our strategic adversaries and 
competitors are ready and willing to employ violence--at scale--to 
support their revisionist aims. They are willing to sow chaos, destroy 
cities, inflict mass casualties, and suffer casualties themselves to 
rewrite the international order--an order that has broadly and deeply 
benefitted humanity. To ensure the joint force remains able to deter, 
and if necessary, defeat these adversaries, we need to move at even 
greater speed to modernize the force.
    As Commandant, I offer the Service's sincere thanks for the 
Committee's support to our modernization efforts--anchored on Force 
Design 2030 and Talent Management 2030. Today, I respectfully ask you 
to recommit to our modernization program. Embracing change before a 
catastrophic event occurs takes both courage and foresight; thank you 
for demonstrating both. As I have stated in the past, the Marine Corps 
does not seek any additional resources for modernization. Rather, we 
seek your oversight and assistance in ensuring that the resources the 
Service generates through divestments, reorganization, and redesign are 
reinvested in our Corps' modernization priorities.
    As I have previously testified, the suggestion that we have to 
choose between preparing to fight tonight, which we are ready to do, or 
preparing for some distant point in the future presents a false 
dichotomy. We must balance the very real and delicate resource tension 
between the force we employ today and the development of the force 
needed for the future. Our Nation can no longer afford to hold on to 
capabilities that do not create a relative advantage over our potential 
adversaries at the expense of capabilities that will keep us ahead of 
them--no matter how culturally significant or nostalgic to an 
individual service those capabilities may be.
      we will remain ``most ready when the nation is least ready''
    When defense leaders submitted their posture statements last 
spring, few of us would have predicted that a major conventional war in 
Europe--the largest since 1945--was only a year away. Russia's brutal 
invasion of Ukraine is a stark reminder that despite our best efforts, 
we can never know with certainty when, where, or how an adversary might 
precipitate conflict. Reflecting on this challenge in a related 
context, former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said: ``When it comes 
to predicting the nature and location of our next military engagements, 
since Vietnam, our record has been perfect. We have never once gotten 
it right, from the Mayaguez to Grenada, Panama, Somalia, the Balkans, 
Haiti, Kuwait, Iraq, and more--we had no idea a year before any of 
these missions that we would be so engaged.''
    Why does this matter? From the perspective of a service chief, it 
matters because we don't have the luxury of building a joint force for 
one threat, one region, or one form of warfare. We must be prepared for 
the full range of operations in places we might not expect, and on 
timelines we did not anticipate. While this is true to some degree for 
all the services, it is especially so for the United States Marine 
Corps. Our history is footnoted by examples of our readiness to respond 
to crisis at a moment's notice in ``any clime and place.'' This is 
essential to our identity as marines, and part of our enduring value to 
the Nation. In these times of increasing complexity and uncertainty, 
the Nation needs one force, maintained at the highest levels of 
readiness that can respond to the crises that few saw coming. We are 
that force. Maintaining the entire joint force at heightened readiness 
levels is both unnecessary and unaffordable. Ensuring that the marine 
Corps does is both strategically vital and fiscally prudent. As 
marines, we have been, and will continue to be, ``America's 911 
Force''--the Nation's force-in-readiness.
    Our ongoing efforts to modernize through Force Design 2030 (FD 
2030) and Talent Management 2030 (TM 2030) will ensure the Marine 
Corps' ability to meet our statutory role and be ready to respond to 
crises--across the Range of Military Operations--from active 
campaigning to conflict. While China, as the pacing threat, is critical 
to informing our force development efforts, the capabilities we seek 
are theater agnostic. The fact is, our current modernization efforts 
will enable us to operate, fight, and win in a more diverse set of 
scenarios and geographic regions than we can today. We are, and will 
remain, ``most ready when the Nation is least ready''--a force in 
readiness prepared to respond to any crisis, anywhere, at any time.
                                posture
    Today, approximately 30,000 marines are forward-deployed or 
forward-stationed, with hundreds more on watch at our embassies across 
the globe. However, in contrast to earlier periods, fewer of these 
forward deployed marines are afloat in service to the Fleet. I remain 
committed to a robust forward posture to support campaigning and to 
expanding this forward presence through the employment of additional 
marines aboard L-Class ships, Light Amphibious Warships, and other 
expeditionary vessels operated by the Fleet or our allies and partners.
            l-class ships & light amphibious warships (law)
    L-Class Ships. For decades, the Navy and Marine Corps have 
demonstrated the power and versatility of marine expeditionary forces 
embarked on amphibious ships. Operating as a combined arms team, 
marines have come ``from the sea'' to support all manner of operations, 
to include: projecting combat power ashore, providing humanitarian 
assistance/disaster relief (HA/DR), reinforcing U.S. embassies, 
training allies and partners, and executing non-combatant evacuation 
operations (NEO). No naval vessel in our inventory is capable of 
supporting a more diverse set of missions across the range of military 
operations than amphibious ships.
    Amphibious ships provide platforms from which to base and employ a 
host of multi-domain capabilities--air, ground, surface, undersea, and 
cyber. Amphibious ships serve as mobile command posts, strike 
platforms, expeditionary maintenance facilities, search-and-rescue 
platforms, floating hospitals, sources of potable water and electricity 
for disaster response, transport and docking stations for smaller 
vessels, and locations where marines can train with international 
partners without the requirement for host nation access. In the near 
future, amphibious ships with well decks will increasingly be used as 
mother ships for uncrewed vessels, carrying a wide variety of unmanned 
surface vessels (USVs) and unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) for 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), anti-submarine 
and anti-surface warfare, mining, command and control, and military 
deception. Amphibious ships are also visible signs of U.S. reach and 
resolve, and because of their unique characteristics, can deploy to a 
region with a less escalatory posture than many traditional warships. 
Those unique characteristics include an ability to self-sustain 
embarked forces for weeks at sea without replenishment. Such resilience 
and persistence are a unique and vital capability for our combatant 
commanders.
    Viewed through the lens of both the 2018 and 2022 National Defense 
Strategies, big deck amphibious ships (LHA/LHD), which carry F-35Bs, 
MV-22s, CH-53s, unmanned aerial systems (UAS), and surface landing 
craft, are arguably the most versatile warships in our inventory. These 
ships, when paired with their embarked marines, have the highest 
utility across the entire spectrum of conflict from building partner 
capacity to humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, to embassy 
reinforcement, to recovery operations, to strikes and raids against a 
peer or near peer adversary. This is the very epitome of campaigning 
forward from mobile sovereign platforms.
    During his March 2022 testimony before the House Armed Services 
Committee (HASC), the Commander of United States European Command 
(USEUCOM), General Tod Wolters, noted that his requirement for a 365-
day Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) presence could not be met due to 
the limitations of the current amphibious fleet inventory, and further 
characterized the MEU as ``precious for effective deterrence.'' A week 
later, Secretary Austin noted in his HASC testimony that, ``Amphibs are 
important to us today. They will be important to us going forward.'' I 
wholeheartedly agree with the conclusions of both leaders, as requested 
in the fiscal year 2023 Budget. Our MEUs need them; our Fleets need 
them; and our combatant commanders need them. The National Defense 
Strategy cannot succeed without them.
    Light Amphibious Warship (LAW). Distinct, yet complementary to 
traditional L-Class amphibious ships, the LAW is envisioned to be a 
small, amphibious warship purpose-built to provide tactical maneuver 
for Marine Littoral Regiments (MLRs), forward-deployed naval forces, 
and other expeditionary advanced base-enabling forces operating within 
contested environments. The LAW will be a maneuver asset, and as a 
shore-to-shore connector, is unique and critical to expeditionary 
littoral mobility. It will facilitate campaigning and will be capable 
of supporting diverse missions such as security cooperation, HA/DR, 
logistics support, and the launch and recovery of uncrewed systems for 
maritime domain awareness. While not optimized for any one threat or 
region, we envision the LAW as being of particular utility in the sort 
of maritime gray zone contests we see in the Indo-Pacific. This type of 
vessel would be well-suited as a platform for marines countering 
threats posed by groups like the People's Armed Forces Maritime Militia 
(PAFMM), and because of its size and characteristics, could be employed 
with lower risk of escalation. The LAW will be an important asset to 
advancing our strategic interests by allowing us to more effectively 
counter our adversaries' strategies, support and reinforce alliances 
and partnerships, and do so at a relatively low cost.
    On 9 September 2021, the Secretary of the Navy commissioned the 
Amphibious Fleet Requirement Study (AFRS). The study directed a 
determination of the ``required size and composition of the future 
amphibious warship fleet . . . needed to support combat operations, 
global presence, and safe and effective training.'' The study found we 
should have a mix of traditional L-Class Amphibious Warfare Ships and 
Light Amphibious Warships. The study will be one of many factors 
considered by the Secretary of the Navy, the Secretary of Defense and 
the Administration as shipbuilding plans and future budget requests are 
formulated. In my military judgment we will need to employ a mixed 
fleet of no less than 31 traditional L-Class Amphibious Warfare Ships 
and 18-36 Light Amphibious Warships to enable us to carry out the NDS.
       naval expeditionary crisis response forces and campaigning
    While the traditional role of crisis response forces in disaster 
relief operations, such as those executed by the Expeditionary Strike 
Group centered on the USS Bonhomme Richard during Operation Unified 
Assistance or via the USS Essex during Operation Tomodachi, is well-
documented and well-understood, these operations are not always 
perceived as ones that create relative advantage in strategic 
competition and campaigning. They do. Our response to humanitarian 
crises and other natural disasters using expeditionary forces--quickly 
and decisively--demonstrates to our allies and partners that they are 
never alone when partnered with the U.S. Further, our ability to 
execute HA/DR operations from amphibious shipping--without a large 
logistical footprint ashore in support of U.S. forces--maximizes our 
flexibility and capability to respond while preserving resources best 
used for relief. In the strategic sense, the significance of this 
amphibious-based capability and its impact should not be 
underestimated. While our ability to ``be there first'' on the scene of 
a natural or man-made disaster is, of course, critical to the 
preservation of life, it is also a strategic imperative, affecting our 
bilateral relationships and matters like access and overflight, as well 
as our international standing. This is true in every region, but today 
is most pronounced in the Indo-Pacific, where China aims to expand its 
regional influence through its own amphibious crisis response 
capabilities.
    At the same time, it is important to recognize the criticality of 
campaigning with our allies and partners--in their regions--on a daily 
basis. Naval expeditionary forces operating forward and persistently 
provide combatant commanders with a sort of ``escalation rheostat,'' 
prepared to respond to crises--or prevent them--by employing 
capabilities that are credible across the range of military operations. 
Both our presence and the credibility of our forces reassure allies and 
partners.
                marine rotational force--darwin (mrf-d)
    In 2011, we established the Marine Rotational Force--Darwin (MRF-D) 
in the Northern Territory in partnership with the Australian 
government. Our rotational presence has grown from a company-sized 
element with limited capabilities to a MEU-sized Marine Air-Ground Task 
Force (MAGTF). Through our recurring presence, we have achieved a high 
level of mutual confidence and interoperability with the Australian 
Defence Force, to the point where marines routinely operate from 
Australian amphibious ships. The training areas in the Northern 
Territory and other regions of Australia are some of the best in the 
world, and certainly the region, affording marines an opportunity for 
high-end training alongside one of our closest allies. Additionally, 
our rotational presence in Australia has enabled marine forces to 
engage and train with a range of international allies and partners in 
ways we did not predict when MRF-D was first established.
             vmfa 211 deployment aboard hms queen elizabeth
    From April to December 2021, ten F-35Bs from Marine Corps Fighter 
Attack Squadron 211 (VMFA 211) deployed aboard the United Kingdom's 
aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth. This historic deployment--the 
first in which a marine squadron completed a deployment aboard an 
allied vessel--represents the culmination of 10 years of focused 
bilateral cooperation and demonstrates how far we have progressed in 
building United States-United Kingdom interoperability. Together with 
the U.K.'s embarked F-35B squadron, VMFA 211 completed nearly 1300 
sorties, flew in excess of 2200 hours, and executed 44 combat missions 
in support of Operation Inherent Resolve. The deployment also marked 
the first time an F-35B cross-decked from a foreign vessel to a U.S. 
vessel (USS America) to refuel and arm before a strike. During its 
approximately seven month deployment, which spanned three U.S. 
geographic combatant commands' areas of responsibility, VMFA 211 
conducted exercises with 10 partner nations and flew from the flight 
decks of three allied ships: Japan's JS Izumo, Italy's ITS Cavour, and 
the HMS Queen Elizabeth. Finally, VMFA 211 was our first F-35B squadron 
to deploy as a 10-jet squadron in accordance with our FD 2030 goals and 
as outlined in my 2019 planning guidance.
                 force design 2030 and stand-in forces
    As we further refined Force Design 2030 through wargaming, 
experimentation, and analysis, it became apparent that we required new 
thinking to address anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) strategies, that 
our Marine Expeditionary Forces (MEF) needed additional operational 
flexibility, and that marines operating with our MEUs and MLRs could be 
a substantial part of the solution. This new approach is reflected in A 
Concept for Stand-In Forces, which describes how forward-postured 
forces, operating in contested areas, and capable of transitioning 
rapidly from campaigning, to crisis, to conflict, and back again, can 
create strategic advantage for the joint force.
    Stand-in Forces (SIF) are small, lethal, low signature, mobile 
forces that are relatively simple to maintain and sustain, and designed 
to operate across the competition continuum within a contested area as 
the leading edge of a maritime defense-in-depth. The enduring function 
of SIF is to help the fleet and joint force win the reconnaissance and 
counter-reconnaissance battle at every point on the competition 
continuum. That means SIF monitor a potential adversary's activity and 
track its forces and sensors at a level that facilitates targeting by 
the fleet or joint force. Below the threshold of conflict, SIF's 
tracking of adversary actions can help expose its malign behavior, 
which can contribute to deterrence. If armed conflict does erupt, SIF 
will have already gained and maintained contact with opposing forces in 
a posture that provides relative positional advantage, enabling the 
fleet and joint force to attack effectively first, seizing the 
initiative.
    Winning the counter-reconnaissance fight means SIF make themselves 
difficult to find by maintaining a low signature, moving frequently and 
unpredictably, and using deception to impose costs on potential 
adversaries, forcing them to expend limited ISR resources. In the 
context of a naval campaign, it also means that SIF will help screen 
for the fleet and joint force, protecting it and increasing the fleet 
commander's freedom of action.
    Beyond reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance, SIF possess 
lethal capabilities for warfare at, on, below, or from the sea. For 
example, SIF can contest a chokepoint, sanitize a strait, or deny a 
specific area, presenting a surface behind which the fleet can 
maneuver. Area denial could also serve to canalize or ``herd'' an 
adversary into a maritime zone where the joint force enjoys relative 
advantage. Integrated with other elements of organic and joint 
capability, the SIF becomes both an enabler and a lethal executor of 
the joint force mission. In competition / campaigning, SIF provide 
capabilities that support new deterrence approaches like deterrence by 
detection, integrating the results of its reconnaissance with other 
elements of national power. In conflict, SIF serve as battle managers 
and provide long-range precision fires at the forward edge of a 
maritime defense-in-depth, enabling naval and joint forces to persist 
within contested areas rather than attempting to force access into them 
by fighting through an adversary's A2/AD defenses. Our ongoing 
experiments with SIF have focused on building a globally-relevant 
capability of value to all geographic combatant commanders, rather than 
more narrowly on a single potential threat or theater. While some view 
the SIF concept as Indo-Pacific focused, the fact is that some of our 
most aggressive experimentation is occurring in other theaters. For 
example, in his March 2022 HASC testimony, the USEUCOM Commander noted 
of his II MEF SIF capabilities: ``a brown water force that can shoot, 
move, and communicate, and that is very, very expeditionary, is 
priceless for 21st century security.''
            force design 2030 and the russo-ukraine conflict
    It is too early to draw definitive conclusions about the changing 
character of war based on the current conflict in Ukraine. Marines aim 
to be careful and humble students of the ongoing struggle, and resist 
temptations to declare that it validates or invalidates the 
foundational assumptions of FD 2030. With that said, we can draw some 
preliminary conclusions. First, winning the reconnaissance and counter-
reconnaissance battle matters. If you are located on a modern 
battlefield saturated with sensors, you will be targeted. Signature 
management, maneuver, deception, and tempo are playing an increasingly 
important role on the modern battlefield. Second, loitering munitions, 
missiles and rockets are increasingly capable of rendering major 
weapons platforms vulnerable, whether MANPADS against helicopters, 
modern anti-armor systems against armor, or ground-based anti-ship 
missiles against surface vessels. Finally, highly-trained and 
distributable small units able to create combined-arms effects continue 
to prove their worth on the modern battlefield. Assertions as to the 
waning utility of dismounted infantry are proving baseless.
              force design 2030 and close combat lethality
    Generations of marines have been educated and trained to locate, 
close with, and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver. While the 
tactical tasks associated with that mission set have not changed, how 
we satisfy those tasks on a modern battlefield is changing. In 
addition, the weighting of the discrete tasks within that simple 
statement is changing, and we must change with it. ``Locating,'' for 
example, has become far more important on the modern battlefield. 
Marines within our three experimental infantry battalions, as well as 
those participating in force-on-force field exercises, are learning and 
fine-tuning their skills, integrating existing and emerging 
capabilities in a combined arms system that accounts for the ongoing 
changes we see on modern battlefields--changes witnessed since at least 
the 2006 Second Lebanon War. We will build upon the major investments 
made by the 37th Commandant in close combat lethality (e.g., 
investments in the Multi-purpose Anti-armor Anti-personnel Weapons 
Systems [MAAWS]) by adding loitering munitions, organic UAS, and 
additional Javelins to our infantry units. Finally, it is important to 
note that throughout the Force Design process, the focus has been, and 
remains, maneuver warfare in every dimension and combined arms in all 
domains, including space and cyber.
    In the midst of this organizational change, it is also important to 
highlight those things that are not changing. When we consider ways to 
maximize our close combat lethality, two things that will never change 
are: (1) our commitment to growing and sustaining smart and tough small 
unit leaders--those marines actually tasked with locating, closing 
with, and destroying the enemy; and (2) our commitment to what the 29th 
Commandant called operational excellence--the ability of a marine to 
apply their training, leadership, and discipline with lethal 
proficiency. No new piece of equipment or warfighting concept can ever 
be as important. We have always maintained that the individual marine 
is the most formidable weapon on the battlefield. We still do.
               force design 2030 prioritized investments
    MQ-9 & related sensors. We remain on-schedule to both modernize and 
increase the number of Marine Corps uncrewed aerial vehicle squadrons 
(VMU). In 2022, we will expand fielding of the MQ-9, immediately 
improving the Marine Corps' capability to support both naval 
expeditionary forces and the joint force. Uncrewed aerial systems are 
ubiquitous on the modern battlefield, as recent global conflicts have 
powerfully demonstrated--whether in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Gaza, 
Yemen, Nagorno-Karabakh, or Ukraine. Over the next 2 years, the Air 
Force will transfer ten MQ-9AER Block V aircraft to the Marine Corps, 
saving the Service approximately $170 million in procurement costs, 
which can be invested into sophisticated sensors like Skytower or 
sonobuoy dispensing pods. These advanced sensors, employed from our MQ-
9s, will radically improve our ability to conduct reconnaissance and 
counter-reconnaissance, and further reinforce our competitive 
advantages in undersea warfare.
    F-35B/C. The F-35 is the most advanced fighter, strike, and sensor 
platform in the world. As the Commander of United States Indo-Pacific 
Command (USINDOPACOM) recently noted during testimony, ``The importance 
of the F-35 cannot be overstated.'' We remain convinced that low 
observable and very low observable, short take-off and vertical landing 
(STOVL) aircraft like the F-35B provide combatant commanders a 
competitive warfighting advantage. Mindful of both cost per flight hour 
(CPFH) and cost per tail per year (CPTPY), I remain committed to 
working with the Joint Program Office to reduce costs for both 
acquisition and sustainment. The Marine Corps remains focused on 
accelerated transition to an all F-35 tactical aviation (TACAIR) fleet 
in order to stay in front of our pacing challenge. We have procured 176 
of 353 F-35Bs and 48 of 67 F-35Cs to-date.
    Organic Precision Fires--Infantry/Mounted (OPF-I/M). OPF-I/M will 
provide multiple echelons of the Fleet Marine Force (FMF) with an 
organic, loitering, beyond line-of-sight, precision strike capability, 
profoundly enhancing the close-combat lethality of maneuver forces. We 
are currently investing $2 billion in OPF across the Future Years 
Defense Program (FYDP), and expect the first systems to be fielded with 
our enhanced infantry battalions and new mobile reconnaissance units in 
fiscal year 2025. OPF-I will be employed at the low tactical level to 
allow marines to rapidly engage the enemy beyond the range of direct 
fire weapons, while minimizing collateral damage and exposure to enemy 
direct and indirect fires. OPF-M will integrate a vehicle mounted, 
multi canister launch platform on our Joint Light Tactical Vehicles 
(JLTV), Light Armored Vehicles (LAV), and Ultra-Light Tactical Vehicles 
(ULTV). On its own, OPF-M can strike targets at ranges beyond 40km. 
However, its lethality is amplified when employed with Group-2 UAS as 
part of our emerging ``hunter-killer team'' employment concept. 
Operating as a hunter-killer combination, our mounted units can deliver 
precision effects, as well as surveillance before, during, and after 
striking targets, at ranges previously reserved for the air wing. These 
combat-tested and combat-proven capabilities will redefine how small 
units close with and destroy an adversary. Once fully fielded, each 
infantry and mobile reconnaissance battalion will possess no fewer than 
four ``hunter'' UAS (potentially the Stalker VXE Block 30) and seven 
dedicated ``killer'' mounted launchers.
    Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV). In 1989, the 29th Commandant wrote 
in his posture statement that his number one priority was the 
procurement of an advanced amphibious vehicle to ``replace our current 
amphibious assault vehicle (AAV), now approaching the end of its 
service life.'' Thirty-three years later, we divested of the AAV and 
are now focused on accelerating the procurement of the ACV. It remains 
a ``must-have'' capability for our forces operating in the global 
littorals--especially in archipelagic environs across the Pacific. We 
remain committed to an approved acquisition objective (AAO) of 632 
vehicles and have procured 267 to-date. We anticipate procuring another 
74 in fiscal year 2023.
    Medium Range Missile (MMSL) Batteries. Due to the continued support 
of Congress, we remain on-schedule to reach initial operating 
capability (IOC) for one MMSL battery in the Pacific by 2023 (to be 
employed by 3d MLR). We remain focused on fielding 14 total MMSL 
batteries (142 total launchers) by fiscal year 2030. These MMSL 
batteries--combining the Navy Marine Corps Expeditionary Ship 
Interdiction System (NMESIS) and ROGUE Fires--will be capable of firing 
the Naval Strike Missile (NSM) and Tactical Tomahawk, thereby holding 
adversary targets at-risk both afloat and ashore, further complicating 
their decision-making. This capability is just as relevant in the 
Western Pacific as it would be in eastern Ukraine, where shore-based 
fires have already been used to destroy enemy surface combatants.
    Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM). In addition to the 
investments made in Ground-Based Anti-Ship Missiles (GBASM), we have 
also begun investing in AGM-158C (LRASM) to further expand the range 
and lethality of our aviation-delivered fires. Marine aircraft equipped 
with LRASM, operating from both ship and shore, will thicken the 
existing network of fires, further distribute lethality across a 
theater, and enhance the credibility of our existing deterrent in any 
region.
    CH-53K. The CH-53K provides the FMF and combatant commanders with 
an unmatched vertical heavy-lift capability to project, maneuver, and 
sustain combat forces. It remains the only fully marinized heavy-lift 
helicopter in development or production. The CH-53K can lift more, 
farther, and faster than any other rotary wing platform in the world. 
We declared CH-53K IOC on 22 April after fielding a four-plane 
detachment worth of aircraft, support equipment, and trained aircrew 
and maintainers. While we remain concerned by the continued growth of 
procurement costs, we have actions in place to try to mitigate growth. 
We are further concerned by the projection of the sustainment costs and 
the total cost of ownership, which may exceed $390 million per 
aircraft. We are actively working with industry to reduce those costs 
and will continue that fight throughout the life of the weapon system. 
Still, a marinized, heavy-lift capability is an absolute ``must have'' 
for the joint force as the costs of maintaining the increasingly 
outmoded CH-53E inventory is prohibitive. To date, we have procured 40 
aircraft.
    Ground Based Air Defense (GBAD). GBAD includes multiple FD 2030 
priority programs such as the Marine Air Defense Integrated System 
(MADIS) and Medium Range Intercept Capability (MRIC). MADIS will enable 
our low altitude air defense (LAAD) battalions to provide short-range 
air defense (SHORAD) for our maneuver forces and fixed facilities, to 
include against hostile aerial threats from UAS. MRIC--currently in 
development--is an air defense system for fixed sites, designed to 
counter large UAS (Groups 3 and 4), cruise missiles, and fixed/rotary 
wing aircraft. Based on on-going operations in Ukraine, and lessons 
learned from recent conflicts in Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh, we believe 
these GBAD programs to be essential for our Marine Expeditionary 
Forces.
                     fd 2030 emerging capabilities
    Long-Range Unmanned Surface Vessel (LRUSV) and Unmanned Underwater 
Vehicles (UUV). Just as our MQ-9AER and successor platforms will 
provide persistent surveillance and reconnaissance of competitors and 
strategically critical geography from the air, the Long-Range Unmanned 
Surface Vessel (LRUSV) will do the same from a sea-based platform. It 
will also provide unique capabilities for undersea scouting and C2 
enabling. The rapid evolution of long-range precision munitions allows 
for form factors that can be employed at sea or ashore, and will 
progressively increase deterrence options as they become available. Our 
plan is to home-station these capabilities in Guam, Japan, and Hawaii. 
In addition, UUVs deployed from our existing inventory of L-Class ships 
or from future Light Amphibious Warships can further reinforce our 
competitive advantages in undersea warfare, expand our battlespace 
awareness and that of our partners and allies, and when armed with 
torpedoes, further reinforce sea-denial operations in contested spaces.
    Artificial Intelligence (AI)-Enabled Counter-Intrusion and Counter-
UAS. For the past 18 months, we have conducted tests with AI-enabled 
counter-intrusion and counter-UAS systems aboard several of our bases 
and stations. The performance of these systems has exceeded all 
expectations. As a result, the Commander of Marine Corps Forces, 
Pacific submitted an urgent-needs statement requesting the capability 
be fielded at all bases and stations in the Pacific. Initially, this 
capability will be employed at fixed sites. However, in the near-to-
mid-term we anticipate employing a mobile version of this small 
footprint, AI-enabled sensing platform. This will allow our stand-in 
forces--with allies, and partners--to better sense and make sense of 
the dynamic maritime and urban terrain where we operate.
    Swarming UAS. Over the next 12 months, we will conduct a series of 
experiments at I MEF with AI-enabled swarming UAS and loitering 
munitions. While planning for this effort is in the early stages, we 
are confident this capability will create game-changing improvements to 
close-combat lethality for our ground forces and will further realize 
the vision of the 31st Commandant's Hunter Warrior experiments from 
1997-1998. Swarming UAS will extend the area of influence of every 
maneuver element, creating competitive warfighting advantages over our 
adversaries.
    Unmanned Logistics System-Aerial (ULS-A) and Future Vertical Lift 
(FVL) Family of Systems (FOS). The past 5 years of wargames have 
demonstrated that our logistics and sustainment capabilities will be 
targeted by near-peer competitors. As the ongoing conflict in Ukraine 
has poignantly illustrated, even traditional ground logistics resupply, 
executed over interior lines and relatively short distances, can be 
disrupted, with operational level effects. As we develop our new naval 
expeditionary units and expand our uncrewed aircraft capability, we 
will increasingly invest in uncrewed logistics aircraft such as the 
ULS-A Medium and ULS-A Large. This year we will invest $32 million in 
ULS-A Medium (Group 3 UAS), which is capable of carrying 300-600 pounds 
of cargo a distance of 100NM, while developing plans to procure ULS-A 
Large. To date, the Air Force has the most mature understanding of this 
capability, and has experimented with an electric vertical takeoff and 
landing (eVTOL) aircraft that may satisfy our needs in the future. We 
are wrapping all these efforts together within our aviation 
enterprise's FVL (VTOL FOS) program, and have invested $584 million 
over the FYDP.
             force design 2030 installations and logistics
    Our ability to sustain our tactical forces across time and space is 
a critical component of integrated deterrence. The pacing threat 
continues to erode our traditional warfighting advantages, particularly 
the ability to close and sustain our forces at times and places of our 
choosing. Unfortunately, most of our current logistics processes and 
procedures play right into their strengths. Because the operational 
environment is increasingly contested, our logistics efforts from the 
tactical edge all the way back to the homeland will have to 
fundamentally change. As we are witnessing in Ukraine, even a 
numerically superior force will struggle to sustain itself and protect 
supply routes against persistent attack and disruption. We cannot allow 
this occur.
    As part of the broader logistics enterprise, we must improve the 
ability of our installations to provide the critical requirements that 
enable FMF readiness. We must have resilient infrastructure and 
services that provide the platforms necessary to enable delivery of 
capabilities from across the service enterprise. Because the 
environment is dynamic, we must have the means to protect our 
installations and organic industrial base from an increasingly complex 
range of operational, environmental, and climate-related threats. With 
the proliferation of the Mature Precision Strike Regime and expanding 
information-related threats, we need to better leverage technology, 
specifically AI, to ensure we maintain the ability to defend ourselves 
from emerging and evolving threats such as those posed by small, 
unmanned aerial systems.
    In the Pacific, we are experimenting with command and control and 
organizational proofs of concept so our installations and logistics 
units can make more effective, direct contributions to FMF warfighting 
capability. We will place our installations under an operational 
command structure to ensure they are more resilient to operational, 
environmental, and climate-related threats, and better postured to meet 
the needs of the FMF.
    We are pursuing a range of material capabilities to diversify and 
modernize our logistics portfolio, aligned to a contested littoral 
environment. At the tactical level, we are currently testing and 
assessing several platforms that will enable us to transition from a 
battlefield maneuver and sustainment capability based on crewed 
aircraft and wheeled vehicles to a diverse collection of crewed and 
uncrewed air and ground platforms that are smaller, cheaper, and 
collectively result in a more resilient distribution network of 
platforms and connectors. In addition to our efforts to generate, 
store, and distribute renewable energy forward, these platforms will 
exploit rapidly moving technologies that the Department and our 
industry partners are pursuing to decrease our dependence on vulnerable 
fuel supply chains, while enabling us to deliver critical commodities 
via the naval and joint logistics enterprise across the vast distances 
of the Pacific, despite enemy sensing and targeting capabilities. The 
most visible platforms will be a family of uncrewed logistics air 
systems, the smallest of which are already in prototyping and live 
experimentation. Our experimentation is yielding exciting results that 
underscore the need to expand into large and medium uncrewed logistics 
systems. Additionally, we will begin exploring options to replace our 
ground logistics fleet with a smaller, lighter, fuel-efficient 
replacement for vehicles that have run long past sustainability. We are 
now exploring emerging technologies that we can leverage to deliver 
capable, yet affordable vehicles that reduce our reliance on fossil 
fuels. As a modest first step, we will lease 3,875 non-tactical 
electric vehicles this year, and likely expand our inventory of 
electric vehicles in the future.
    As I have said numerous times over the last year, logistics is the 
pacing function, and the on-going conflict in Ukraine appears to 
validate that conclusion. As such, logistics provides the resources and 
sets the limits for what is operationally possible, even as 
logisticians attempt to extend those limits as far as possible.
                 force design and the reserve component
    We recently established the Marine Innovation Unit (MIU) within our 
Reserve Component. The MIU's work will complement that of our Marine 
Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) by accelerating advanced technology 
development. Reserve marines in the grades of sergeant through colonel 
will be assigned to this unit on the basis of their expertise in areas 
like artificial intelligence, data science, human systems, advanced 
manufacturing, quantum computing, autonomy/robotics, space, supply 
chain management, cyber, synthetic biology, energy and materials 
sciences, and other technology fields. This initiative will allow us to 
tap into the diverse talent pool in Marine Corps Forces Reserve, and 
through its collaboration with MCWL, integrate research in multiple 
advanced disciplines into Force Design and related efforts.
                               readiness
    Though some aspects of our military require substantial change, we 
should be clear to acknowledge those foundational tenets which remain 
as relevant and operationally suitable today as they have been over the 
previous 70 years. In 1952, Members of Congress noted the Marine Corps 
``can prevent the growth of potentially large conflagrations by prompt 
and vigorous action during their incipient stages. The Nation's shock 
troops must be the most ready when the Nation is least ready . . . to 
provide a balanced force-in-readiness for a naval campaign and, at the 
same time, a ground and air striking force ready to suppress or contain 
international disturbances short of large-scale war . . . '' This role 
as the Nation's force-in-readiness, prepared to create strategic 
advantage via its ability to be quickest to respond to either crisis or 
conflict, and prepared to both prevent and contain conflict below the 
threshold of armed conflict, remains as valid today as it was when 
first articulated. I remain as committed to ensuring your Marine Corps 
can fulfill this vital role as those who preceded me.
    But as I have previously noted, readiness and availability are not 
the same things. Ready forces are those that create competitive 
warfighting advantages. As we are witnessing in Ukraine, available 
Russian forces are being met by Ukrainian forces possessing competitive 
warfighting advantages. Prior to the commencement of hostilities, if 
one had asked for a relative combat power assessment based on each 
side's bench of ready (available) forces, that assessment would have 
been disproportionately skewed towards the Russians. As we have seen in 
Ukraine and in other recent conflicts, true readiness is a hypothesis 
to be tested and proven via employment in combat, and is not something 
that can be determined via availability alone.
                     readiness and covid 19 update
    As of 22 April 2022, 96 percent of the Active Component is fully 
vaccinated and 97 percent partially vaccinated. Within our Reserve 
Component, 91 percent are fully vaccinated and 92 percent partially 
vaccinated. 3,702 marines asked for a religious accommodation and seven 
have been approved. 1,067 marines have received approval for a medical 
or administrative exemption. As of 22 April, 1,978 marines have been 
separated for a failure to comply with a lawful order.
                    climate readiness and resilience
    The Secretary of the Navy has directed the Navy and Marine Corps to 
develop plans for increasing our capability and capacity to mitigate 
both the near-term and long-term operational impacts of climate change. 
He has also set a goal of achieving net-zero carbon emissions at our 
bases and stations by 2040. For the Marine Corps, I view our climate-
related mitigation efforts as crucial to increasing the Service's 
operational capability, capacity, and resilience in the face of serious 
environmental challenges, including extreme storms along the East 
Coast, rising oceans levels along the Carolina coast, and water 
scarcity at bases and stations in the Southwest. It also important to 
note that many of the communities surrounding our installations share 
our climate-related vulnerabilities. We believe that partnering with 
Federal agencies, states, localities, tribes, and territories on 
climate change related planning is critical to maximizing the impact of 
our collective mitigation efforts.
                         talent management 2030
    Late last year we published Talent Management 2030 (TM 2030), and 
in doing so, took a major step toward realizing the goals of Force 
Design 2030 and our larger service modernization effort. TM 2030 aims 
to create a personnel system that better harnesses, develops, and 
aligns the talents of individual marines with the needs of the service 
to maximize the performance of both, improving both individual and unit 
readiness, capability, and lethality. The report details the 
deficiencies in our current manpower model and directs a series of 
reforms, initiatives, and changes that will fundamentally improve our 
service's organization, processes, and approach to personnel and talent 
management. TM2030 was informed by years of studies, reports, and other 
research, as well as the work of our sister services in the joint 
force. The influence of Congress is also evident throughout the report, 
and many of the most important initiatives described in its pages are 
the direct consequence of expanded authorities that Congress gave the 
services in the John S. McCain National Defense Authorization Act for 
Fiscal Year 2019.
    The totality of changes described in TM2030 are significant. They 
are also essential, especially within the broader context of our 
ongoing Force Design 2030 effort. In short, the capabilities we are 
building as part of Force Design 2030, along with the complementary 
concepts of Stand-In Forces, Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations 
(EABO), and Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO), cannot reach their 
full potential without a profound change to our personnel system. In 
that way, TM2030 should be viewed as a critical requirement to the 
success of our overall service modernization.
    We plan to fully implement the changes described in TM2030 and 
transition from our current manpower system to a talent management 
system no later than 2025. Change of this magnitude requires the 
dedicated commitment and long-term support of both military and 
civilian leaders. While I believe we have most of the necessary 
authorities to fully implement TM2030, I will be sure to inform 
Congress if any challenges or obstacles arise for which we may need 
your assistance.
    Among the more important changes, the implementation of TM2030 will 
adjust our decades-old recruiting-centric enlisted personnel model, 
placing more emphasis on retention. This change will raise the 
aggregate age of our marines and create a more mature force, consistent 
with future warfighting requirements. We expect this will raise 
personnel costs, yet well within accepted norms. For example, today the 
average cost per marine is $73,800 per year (pay, housing, training, 
etc.). By comparison, the average cost of a soldier is $79,800, the 
average cost of an airman is $82,500, and the average cost of a sailor 
is $89,900. While we anticipate a cost increase in the short term, we 
also expect a cost savings over the long term as we reduce the number 
of recruiters, instructors, and other resources required to maintain a 
recruiting-centric enlisted personnel model. In the near term, the most 
visible sign of our shift towards a more mature retention-based force 
will be a drop in the annual recruiting mission by several thousand, 
and a congruent increase in retention.
                    diversity, equity, and inclusion
    I remain committed to maintaining a total workforce that benefits 
from the whole of our Nation's vast human capital by recruiting, 
developing, and retaining marines and civilians from all personal, 
cultural, and professional backgrounds. In practice, that means 
eliminating all structural, administrative, cultural, or other 
obstacles that might limit a marine's ability to have a successful 
career. Capitalizing on the talents, knowledge, skills, abilities, 
experiences, and perspectives of every marine will make our Corps 
stronger, more lethal, and more effective on the battlefield, today and 
tomorrow.
    As a Corps, we have made great strides over the last 5 years in 
eliminating obstacles to the upward mobility of talented marines from 
traditionally underrepresented demographics. One way to measure our 
progress is to examine the rate at which marines from these backgrounds 
are selected to command battalions and squadrons at the O5/lieutenant 
colonel level, a key career milestone that indicates a marine has 
potential for a significant leadership position within the Service. 
Five years ago, 19 percent of African American marines screened for O5 
command were selected. Since then, the average is 34 percent with a 
high of 44 percent. Five years ago, 3 percent of our battalions and 
squadrons were commanded by female marines. Today that number has 
increased to 9 percent. In fiscal year 2021, for the first time, a 
higher percentage of female marines who screened for O5 command were 
selected than their male counterparts. We do not select our commanders 
based on gender, race, or any other marker, so the fact that marines 
from these diverse backgrounds are being selected for O5 command 
indicates to me that we are making progress in reducing obstacles to 
the upward mobility of talent.
    While there is evidence of some progress, there is also evidence we 
still have obstacles to eliminate. For example, we continue to 
experience a concerning lack of diversity within our TACAIR community. 
Despite a significant increase in the number of African American 
officers over the last four decades, we have the same number of African 
American TACAIR pilots today as we did in 1981. Last year we asked 
former NASA Administrator and marine, Major General Charles Bolden 
(USMC, Ret.), to conduct a third-party review to examine the structural 
and systemic issues that might be leading to this outcome. His 
observations and conclusions were valuable, and I am confident his 
recommendations will help us to create a more equitable playing field.
         sexual assault prevention and military justice reform
    The eradication of sexual assault from our ranks has been a goal of 
every Marine Commandant for decades. Despite making progress in 
fostering a culture where reporting of sexual assault crimes has 
increased and where victims are more willing to communicate with their 
leadership, we have admittedly been unable to accomplish what we all 
seek--the elimination of sexual assault altogether. In 2021, there were 
1,202 reported sexual assaults in the Marine Corps. We must consider 
any policies that could increase prevention and offender 
accountability, and reduce or eliminate retaliation or retribution 
against victims. I remain committed to timely implementation of the 
Independent Review Committee's (IRC) recommendations, as well as 
implementation of changes in the fiscal year 2022 National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA) that seek to improve the investigation, 
disposition, and litigation of victim-related crimes.
                      parental leave and childcare
    As part of TM2030, we will begin making several key updates to our 
parental leave program beginning in 2022. First, we are grateful to the 
Congress for the additional authorities to increase the duration of 
parental leave for primary and secondary caregivers; we have expanded 
our secondary caregiver leave and are working with OSD on the timely 
implementation of increased leave in cases of adoption or long-term 
foster care. Second, we are developing mechanisms by which primary and 
secondary caregivers can take additional parental leave--beyond the 
congressionally-authorized 12-weeks--if they agree to extend their 
service contracts. Third, we will implement a phased return to work 
program for the primary caregiver, allowing the caregiver to return to 
work gradually. Finally, and most importantly, we won't stop learning. 
We will carefully study the best practices of top performing American 
companies and institutions, always with an eye to enhancing our service 
parental leave programs as new research becomes available.
    Increasing the availability of childcare remains a top priority for 
the Service. Unfortunately, persistent supply and demand imbalances 
have resulted in unacceptable wait times for our marine families. The 
average wait time for childcare across our major bases and stations is 
65 days. However, based on a number of actions taken this year, we 
anticipate a decrease in the average wait time by 50 percent over the 
next 12 months. Additionally, we increased funding for our Marine 
Family Care Programs by $91 million, beginning in fiscal year 2023 
across the next 5 years. To provide a variety of options that fit a 
families' needs and to mitigate lengthy Child Development Center (CDC) 
waitlists, we also offer fee assistance for eligible marines who are 
geographically remote, reside more than 15 miles from an installation, 
or are assigned to an installation with a lengthy CDC waitlist.
                      barracks and family housing
    In fiscal year 2021, we renovated 13 barracks, and in fiscal year 
2022, we plan to renovate another 10 at a cost of $93 million. We 
anticipate renovating a further 10 barracks in fiscal year 2023 at a 
cost of $112 million. This will leave 94 barracks for future 
renovation. The renovations completed in fiscal year 2021 to fiscal 
year 2023 will positively impact 3,780 marines living in the barracks. 
In terms of family housing, our biggest challenge is related to ongoing 
efforts to renovate over 300 homes at MCAS Iwakuni, for which we 
recently issued a contract to renovate 44, to be completed by fiscal 
year 2023. Additionally, we anticipate spending a further $104 million 
in fiscal year 2023 to further remediate housing deficiencies across 
our bases and stations.
                          training philosophy
    In 1990, then Commandant Gray stated, ``Training will reflect the 
fact the modern battlefield demands high levels of initiative and an 
ability to operate at a fast tempo in an atmosphere of uncertainty, 
confusion, and rapid change. Unit training will largely be free-play 
training in order to develop this ability. Individual training, 
starting with boot camp, will seek to develop independent action and 
initiative.'' This guidance remains as relevant today as it was 32 
years ago.
                            training ranges
    The Marine Corps has no outdoor training spaces or ranges where 
ground units can operate in an electromagnetic spectrum operations 
(EMSO) denied, degraded, or disrupted environment, and limited 
opportunities to replicate such an environment in simulation. Today, we 
are able to conduct some of this training at joint facilities, most 
notably in Alaska's Joint Pacific Alaskan Range Complex (JPARC). 
However, we need to be able to train in a similar manner at all of our 
major training facilities. This is a critical shortfall of our existing 
training infrastructure in Arizona, California, Hawaii, and North 
Carolina. Additionally, we lack littoral maritime training ranges akin 
to our legendary Range 400 at the MAGTF Training Center in Twentynine 
Palms, California. As we modernize the force for naval expeditionary 
operations in contested environments, we will require a maritime 
training site with suitable seaward and landward ranges where we can 
train with the full range of our multi-domain weapon systems, to 
include uncrewed systems. Finally, we must remain mindful of the 
impacts of urbanization and community growth on our training capacity, 
especially in Hawaii.
                 enhanced infantry and leader training
    In 1997, the 31st Commandant gave a speech at the National Press 
Club in which he articulated the need to transform our most valued 
Marine Corps asset--the marine infantry non-commissioned officer (NCO). 
While most remember his characterization of the future ``Three Block 
War'' and the new importance of the ``Strategic Corporal,'' most forget 
the context of his argument. General Krulak described to his audience 
the Battle of Teutoburg Forest, during which the Roman pro-consul 
Quintilius Varus had his force of three legions ambushed and destroyed 
by an adversary he put down 3 years prior. As his force was collapsing 
around him, Varus was heard to say, ``Ne cras, Ne cras'' (Latin for 
``not like yesterday''). General Krulak's prescient assumptions about 
the future of ground combat in urban areas has proven accurate time and 
again--whether in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Ukraine today.
    Our continued force-on-force experimentation and training in 
support of FD 2030 further demonstrate that the future battlespace will 
not be like yesterday, and change is required--even among the elite 
marine infantry community. As a result, over the past year we have 
greatly expanded our infantry training by adding an additional six 
weeks to the program of instruction. This expansion provides our 
infantry marines with the training necessary to employ networked 
communications, organic precision fires to include loitering munitions, 
and multi-domain ISR capabilities at the lowest tactical level. The 
result will be a more technically competent and tactically proficient 
infantry than has ever existed in the Marine Corps--prepared to 
operate, fight, and win on any modern battlefield. One with both the 
physical stamina and mental resilience required of all marine infantry 
past and present. These changes are not limited only to our enlisted 
force. We have made significant improvements at our Infantry Officers 
Course (IOC) to expand practical applications via a new live-fire 
ambush, a new amphibious operations package, uncrewed aircraft systems 
integration instruction, and final live-fire exercise against a multi-
domain threat. Through our continued wargaming and experimentation, it 
is perfectly clear that an elite infantry is a critical requirement to 
success on the future battlefield, and the changes that are occurring 
at IOC and at our Schools of Infantry are now producing that force.
                            recruit training
    In the 2020 NDAA, Congress directed the Marine Corps to gender 
integrate training at both Marine Corps Recruit Depots (MCRDs) Parris 
Island and San Diego no later than fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 
2028, respectively. We are on pace to achieve those deadlines. Since 
enactment, we have trained 26 integrated companies at MCRD Parris 
Island and 3 at MCRD San Diego--a total of 11,121 male and female 
marines who started their service and journeys together. At present, 
each MCRD company consists of five male platoons and one female platoon 
(5+1 model), although there are times when a four male platoon plus two 
female platoon model (4+2 model) has been employed to accommodate 
increased female recruit throughput.
                              afghanistan
    In August of last year, our collective mission in Afghanistan 
ended. During nearly 20 years of operations, 115,992 marines served in 
Afghanistan; 5,101 marines were wounded in action; an untold number 
sustained invisible and permanent emotional wounds; and 478 families 
became Gold Star Families after the loss of their marine. We have a 
moral obligation to each of our marines and their families to resist 
the temptation to push Afghanistan into our distant memory, and instead 
bring our experiences there into sharp focus in order to learn. 
Thousands of marines, sailors, soldiers, and airmen answered the call 
to serve in Afghanistan, and while the outcome there was not what any 
of them expected, their service was honorable and their courage real. 
We owe them a hard look at how the war was executed--what we got right 
and what we got wrong. To that end, I fully endorse the nonpartisan 
Afghanistan War Commission and its aims to help us more completely 
understand the full scope of the conflict.
    When reflecting on our experience in Afghanistan, we also cannot 
forget the significant contributions of our allies and partners. The 
U.S. military was fortunate to operate alongside patriots from dozens 
of allied and partner nations, and we will never forget the service and 
sacrifices of these brothers and sisters in arms.
                        joint chief perspective
    Trust and Confidence in the Military. I remain concerned with 
continued reports of the public's declining trust and confidence in the 
uniformed leadership of the armed services. I am old enough to remember 
when military service was not perceived in the positive light that it 
is today. I entered service within a decade after the collapse of the 
U.S. position in Southeast Asia and a year after the failed rescue 
attempt known as Desert One. Within 2 years of my commissioning, faith 
in the uniformed and civilian leadership of the military was further 
rocked by the tragedy of the suicide-bombing of the Marine Barracks in 
Beirut.
    We must address negative perceptions of the military without 
hesitation. We must also remain mindful that the deeper we dig into the 
decisions of the past, particularly related to our campaigns in 
Afghanistan that such negative perceptions may grow. The long-term 
health of the Marine Corps, naval services, and entire joint force is 
dependent upon the cultivation and sustainment of a special bond of 
trust and confidence between the military and the public. We must 
ensure that Americans who wish to serve, and the families who support 
them in their service, trust their military and pursue their service 
``without any mental reservation.'' To that end, we must all make a 
concerted effort to speak with precision, encourage transparency, and 
welcome any and all oversight that would restore the public's 
confidence in the military.
    Finally, I am increasingly concerned that in our shared desire to 
eliminate discrimination, harassment, sexual assault, extremism, and 
every other destructive act within the joint force that is contrary to 
the core values of all the services, we are unintentionally creating a 
harmful mental model and stereotype of the services as places where 
these are the norm vice the exception. The vast majority of young men 
and women across the joint force serve honorably, and are incredible 
representatives of their individual families and communities across the 
entire country. We must never allow the public to think for a moment 
that military service is anything other than the most honorable service 
one can provide to their fellow citizens. The success of our All-
Volunteer Force requires the special trust and confidence of the 
public. As you hold me and the other senior leaders accountable for all 
we do or fail to do, and rightfully seek to eliminate persistent 
behaviors inconsistent with our values, please continue to help me 
spread the word that military service is honorable service, and that 
you remain incredibly proud of the young men and women in uniform.
    Wargaming and Transparency. In September 1964, the Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff sponsored a wargame on Vietnam for uniformed and 
civilian leaders from the Department of Defense (DOD), Central 
Intelligence Agency (CIA), and Department of State (DoS). The wargame 
was intended to provide senior policy makers with an opportunity to re-
examine our national strategic objectives and the strategy required to 
attain those objectives. For those passionate about wargaming, SIGMA II 
64 is ``Exhibit A'' in the case for its importance. Once declassified, 
the wargame report provided clear evidence that senior uniformed and 
civilian leaders understood the situation in Vietnam much better than 
historians previously assumed.
    The story of SIGMA II 64 illustrates the potential of wargames to 
increase the breadth and depth of our understanding, but more, it 
illustrates the damage that can result from a lack of transparency. The 
SIGMA II 64 wargame results were classified and tightly controlled, not 
shared widely or with those who maintain oversight responsibilities, 
like Congress. While it is impossible to know if our national leaders 
would have pursued a different course in Vietnam had the SIGMA II 64 
results been more widely shared, it is certain that the debate would 
have been better informed.
    As a joint force, we should make every effort to increase the 
frequency, sophistication, and scope of our wargames. In particular, we 
should look to expand the participation of our allies, partners, 
interagency teammates, and industry, whose collective insights are 
essential to a strategy which aims at integrated deterrence. At the 
same time, we must seek greater transparency. I encourage Congress and 
staff to participate in wargames, continue asking tough questions, and 
challenge us to be as transparent as possible.
                               conclusion
    As HASC Chairman Smith recently noted, ``The Pentagon tends to 
reward conformity. As long as you check all the boxes and go up through 
the 15 layers of decision making, we're all good, instead of you saw a 
problem and solved it.'' This has to change, is changing, and can 
continue to change with your oversight and assistance. For some, the 
daily feed of images and intelligence from Ukraine has persuaded them 
that a change in our availability-based model of readiness and our 
warfighting investments are required. I agree with these individuals. 
For others, the case for change has long since been made on 21st 
century battlefields -with little if anything in common. I agree with 
those individuals as well. However, this does not mean that everything 
requires change, and that our forces are not ready today, to create 
advantage today, and to succeed today in whatever challenge confronts 
them. While the need to train and equip our marines and sailors with 
modern capabilities and equipment that create advantage is beyond 
dispute, what is also beyond dispute is that those individuals--the 
individual marine and sailor--are a source of competitive advantage for 
the service and for the larger joint force, and will always be the most 
important resource. Your marines are ready today, just as they have 
always been. What they need is your continued support for resourcing, 
your continued policy oversight, and your continued faith and 
confidence. With those things, they will never fail.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Berger. 
Secretary Del Toro, one of the issues that is arising is the 
performance of shipyards. We saw, for example, on the attack 
submarines that the slippage in terms of both delivery time and 
increase in costs, the reason that most people give is the 
difficulty of securing the appropriate labor and workers. What 
can you do and what can the industrial base do to get back on 
track?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. I am also deeply 
concerned about the pace with which both our public shipyards 
and our private shipyards keep up with the maintenance that is 
required by both our submarine fleet, as well as our surface 
fleet as well. I have visited most of the yards, all four 
public shipyards, and most of the private yards as well. I have 
met with the leadership of those shipyards to try to better 
understand the challenges that they face. Without question, the 
impact of COVID on the last 3 years has been significant.
    We continue to cooperate very collaboratively, thanks to 
the support of the Congress as well, and making investments in 
those shipyards, both capital investments and also investments 
with regards to the talent management that is necessary to run 
those shipyards. I believe that there is still a lot of work 
that needs to be done, and it does take a team to work this 
through, obviously.
    But the other message that I have also relayed to the 
leadership of these shipyards is that they also have a 
responsibility to deliver these platforms on time and on 
schedule, and they need to divert the proper resources 
necessary to do so in terms of capital equipment and also in 
terms of hiring the necessary workforce at those shipyards in 
order to increase the pace at which these maintenance cycles 
are taken.
    Let me, if I could ask the CNO to just weigh in as well on 
this issue.
    Chairman Reed. Could I?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. Forgive me.
    Chairman Reed. I thank you because--General Berger, Force 
Design 2030 recognizes this is a much different world than 10 
years ago, 20 years ago, certainly 30 years ago. Since World 
War II, we have basically had guaranteed air superiority if we 
choose to fight. We also had relatively uncontested logistics.
    We have had uninterrupted communications. The concept of 
joint operations has been evolving for a long time, but it is 
now more critical than ever. So when you look at all of these 
factors, lack of air superiority, logistics difficulties, 
communications that might be disrupted, and the need to operate 
as a truly Joint Force, I assume that has informed your view of 
what you want to do with the Marine Corps in terms of your new 
design.
    General Berger. That is entirely accurate, Chairman. I 
don't think any of the Joint Chiefs, if all of us were lined up 
here, would see it any different. Especially on the high end, 
we will fight, we will operate as a Joint Force. We have to 
have a pretty keen understanding of the joint capabilities 
involved there and where the overlaps are and where the gaps 
are.
    The areas that you highlighted, air superiority, command 
and control, logistics, absolutely are part of the focus. We 
also know that we are not going to match the--People's 
Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) in number for number, but that is 
not actually how we are going to deter and how we are going to 
dissuade them. It is going to be asymmetric.
    Lastly, I would say the need to operate forward as the 
Secretary and CNO highlighted, paramount. You have got to know 
what they are doing. You have to paint a picture for the Joint 
Force Commander 24/7 and that is our role.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. A question I will 
address to Admiral Gilday, and with time to General Berger, is 
that the Navy's unfunded priority list is $4 billion this year. 
Marine Corps is $3.5 billion. Last year, because of the 
Committee's support for Senator Inhofe's initiative, we were 
able to cover all of your unfunded priorities.
    We can't assume that this year. So I assume that these 
unfunded priorities are really in priority order. That if we go 
to the first one, that is the most critical. The second one, 
the second most critical. Is that accurate, Admiral?
    Admiral Gilday. It is absolutely accurate, sir, and so my 
priorities--everything on the unfunded list were high regrets 
that we couldn't get into the budget and are primarily 
readiness related. So as an example, for weapons arranged in 
speed, Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM), Joint Air to 
Surface Missile-Extended Range (JASSM-ER), Maritime Strike 
Tomahawk, SM-6, what we are trying to do is maximize domestic 
production lines to send a demand signals so we can fill our 
magazines with weapons, and make sure that if the fight does go 
down tonight or in the 2027 timeframe, that we are ready to go.
    Likewise, those priorities include flying hours, steaming 
days, maintenance, spare parts in both the aviation side and 
for our ships as well. It is funding for people, and so those 
are all--those all have to do with needed midterm readiness. 
There are also some modernization priorities there as well.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. General Berger, I will 
ask for your response in writing and for the record so that we 
can recognize Senator Inhofe. Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and General Berger, 
thank you very much for your nice remarks. As noted in my 
opening remarks, the unfunded priorities total $7.5 billion, 
approximately $4 billion for the Navy and $3.5 billion for the 
Marine Corps. The question I would ask you, is a yes or no 
question, is everything on your list executable today?
    General Berger. Yes, sir. Same for the Marine Corps, yes, 
sir.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes. All right. Thank you very much. 
Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, it has been 3\1/2\ years 
now since I visited the USS Gerald Ford. At that time, they had 
just completed their--everything has been late on that effort. 
The catapult and the arresting gears, I think at that time, 
3\1/2\ years ago, were just about completed. My understanding 
is that the elevators now, which the last thing, are finally 
done, albeit 7 years later and $2.8 billion over budget.
    The burden that this 7 year delay of the Ford has placed on 
the rest of the aircraft fleet can't be overstated. I would 
like to get from all three of you who--in whatever order you 
would like the--a couple of things, several things here. One 
is, what kind of a burden has that placed, that 7 year delay 
placed, and when will it deploy, and probably the lessons 
learned.
    That seems to be the significant thing, I believe, the 
lessons learned. I have talked to each one of you over a period 
of time on the, you know, how much of this could be a result of 
this sole source situation. So any comments you want to make 
just on the Ford now that we have reached this important time 
zone. I would like to hear from you.
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, I would like 
to say that you charged me at my confirmation hearing to fix 
the elevators on the Ford. I am at least pleased to say that 
they are fixed on the Ford now. I think when acquiring ships of 
this nature, which are extremely complicated, it is very 
important to ensure that we fully understand the whole--we 
fully understand the maturity of the technologies that we are 
going to put on those platforms before we actually acquire 
them.
    I think that those are some of the key lessons that are 
being learned as we look at DDG Flight III, as we look at our 
future DDG(X) or SSG(X), as well as the Constellation-class 
frigate. I would like to say that the mistakes that were made 
in the past are being applied very aggressively to these new 
acquisition programs that are going to be rolled out in the 
future.
    I think the criticality of land-based testing, for example, 
for the engineering plants is also very critical to this and 
the submodules that are necessary to go on to these platforms. 
I will ask the CNO to continue the conversation in the limited 
time we have.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, the biggest lesson learned from Ford 
and other platforms is that we need to drive down technical 
risk in these programs, and so we do that with land-based 
prototyping. We do that with plenty of testing upfront before 
we become an informed customer and come to you for the money to 
scale these platforms, LCS would be another example.
    If I take a look at the Columbia-class submarine, we are at 
85 percent design right now as we are building that submarine. 
If I compare that to the Ohio-class, we were at 4 percent, 
Seawolf 25 percent, Virginia-class 40 percent, and so we are 
learning our lessons with respect to Ford and putting in the 
good work now.
    We have money in the budget with respect to unmanned to 
actually have land-based prototyping, significant land based 
prototyping in Philadelphia as we have had with other ships so 
that, again, we can make informed decisions before we scale 
platforms.
    Senator Inhofe. Let me comment, before a third--I wasn't 
being critical in terms of certainly any of the three of you, 
but the fact that it did take a longer period of time does have 
implications on other vehicles that are out there.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, it has. Obviously, funds have 
been diverted in order to keep Ford moving along track. We are 
very pleased to get her deployed later on this year and likely 
again the following year. I want to keep her on a high--high 
degree of operations tempo. This past year, she has had the 
highest, probably the highest operations tempo of any ship in 
the Navy. She was our carrier--aircraft carrier off the east 
coast of the United States.
    She was qualifying our new pilots with their cats and 
traps, and so we are going to continue that high degree of 
operations tempo with her, keeping in mind, of course, stress 
on the crew. But they want to go to sea, they are proud of 
their ship, and it is operating to our expectations right now.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Good morning to each of you. 
Thank you for being here and thank you for your service to the 
country. Secretary Del Toro, I would like to begin with you and 
Admiral Gilday, because the Navy's request includes $503 
million in funding for the SIOP Multi-Mission Drydock Project 
at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in New Hampshire and Maine.
    I know that you have both been up there to see this 
project. But given the cost overruns that we saw last year, are 
you confident that that $503 million is going to be enough to 
keep the project on schedule this year?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I think I am confident that we are 
moving in the right direction. These are extremely complicated 
programs, as you well know. It is our largest capital project 
in the Department of Navy. I think that there are going to be 
more discoveries that will be made. But I don't think that they 
will be of the nature and increases of the past mistakes that 
were made previously.
    One of the charges that I have given our acquisition force 
is to ensure that we actually do take the necessary time to 
come up with accurate cost estimations for the projects, so 
what you have going on now, we will propose in the future. That 
takes some time, additional time to reach those answers, and so 
I would like to think that we are actually moving in the right 
direction with the necessary discipline to make accurate cost 
estimations.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I appreciate that. I guess--I am 
trying to understand then why the Navy hasn't adopted the 
Government Accountability Office (GAO) recommendations from the 
2017 report that just--this GAO report just came out recently 
that identified concerns with SIOP. Planning, including 
adopting best practices for cost estimation.
    It also points out that the performance metrics that were 
expected to be done by now are not going to be done until 2025. 
So can you talk about why the delay is there and what needs to 
happen in order to get things back on track?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am. I can't make--look, I am not 
going to make excuses for deals of the past. I do know that 
certainly since I have become Secretary we are taking this 
responsibility very seriously and trying to come up with very 
accurate cost estimations and being allowed to be given the 
time to come up with those cost estimations so that we are not 
just flying by the cuff.
    Senator Shaheen. I recognize that the war in Ukraine has 
happened since the budget was developed, and that along with 
inflation have added to costs. So do you have any estimate on 
how that is going to affect the budget numbers that you--we 
have before us now?
    Mr. Del Toro. I don't today, but that is an accurate 
assessment that increasing inflation and the shortages in the 
supply chain as well too will have an impact on costs as we 
continue to evolve these projects.
    Senator Shaheen. How soon will you be back to the 
Committee?
    Mr. Del Toro. So I promise you in the next several months 
we will have more accurate numbers. We have been working on 
this very aggressively in the time that I have been Secretary. 
I have demanded that we have an accurate accounting of 
projected costs for the SIOP program so that we are on track.
    We have also made some additional adds to the program 
management team as well to make sure that we have the right 
skill sets on that program management team to address all the 
necessary risks that are involved.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. General Berger, both the chair 
and ranking member talked about the challenges, and you all 
have talked about the challenges of recruitment and retention 
in the Marine Corps. The marines historically have had the 
smallest percentage of women compared to the other services.
    Obviously, that is one place where there is talent that the 
Marine Corps could look to for the future. So can you talk 
about how talent management 2030 is going to look at more 
gender inclusivity in the Marine Corps and how you expect to 
incorporate more women?
    General Berger. You know, a system that we have had since 
the All-Volunteer Force was put in place, largely replaced 75 
percent of the marines every year, a very young force. That is 
what we needed at that time, and it suited us fine. But going 
forward, as you have highlighted and others, this is a 
competitive market for people, and the requirements that we are 
going to have for marines and sailors, all servicefmembers, is 
going to be even more demanding, even more challenging.
    So the change for talent management is instead of the view 
them as a whole body, each person matching their--what they 
have coming in, and we have to do a better job of assessing 
that when they come in, matching that with what the Marine 
Corps needs, and then a path for each individual to go forward. 
That is the difference.
    Senator Shaheen. Do you expect to have any particular focus 
on recruiting women, or how do you expect to get those numbers 
up?
    General Berger. The recruiters across the country, as you 
have highlighted, the last 2 years of not being in high schools 
has been a real challenge during COVID because their exposure 
and the high school students' exposure to recruiters is really 
tough. You have to have the right recruiters out there and they 
have to have access to the high schools, which now they are 
back in.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, 
gentlemen. Thank you for being here today. General Berger, how 
is the Marine Corps looking to change existing logistics 
processes and procedures to better align with the Force Design 
2030 initiative, particularly looking at the Indo-Pacific 
theater?
    General Berger. The framework we have for logistics in the 
Indo-Pacific theater that you highlight largely assumed a 
protected backside. It assumed that we would not be contested. 
We don't assume that going forward. So the large depot style-
like hub and spokes of parts and all classes of supply and from 
there would be distributed, that has got to change. Because we 
assume that it is going to be contested all the way from the 
most forward units back to the factory, all the way.
    Not just physically, of course, but in cyber as well. So 
what does that mean for us? We have to have organically the 
means to move that--move these sustainment supplies up 
tactically to operationally, in other words, at that level 
organically. That is why things like the 53K, CH-53K, the MV-
22, unmanned systems that are going to allow us to push 
supplies laterally, that is what we have to have, that we don't 
have in numbers yet.
    Everything that we do, logistics has to assume that they 
are going to try to contest it. Which means we got to decoy. We 
have to camouflage it. We have to move it in smaller numbers. 
We have to just operate in a different way. But that is--this 
is natural for marines to do. It is not a new thing, but the 
change probably is an assumption that all of that will be 
contested.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Mr. Secretary, do you have 
anything to add?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am. We are actually making major 
investments over the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP) in 
additional--adding additional oilers, for example, to support 
the ships that will be necessary and the sealift that is 
necessary. We are also making investments in sealift, buying 
more used sealift as well, too.
    All of this is integrated into Force Design 2030, along 
with the addition of additional amphibious lift and as well as 
the wires to provide the shore to shore connectors that are 
necessary for the marines to be able to effectively execute 
their expeditionary mission.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Berger, since Russia's 
invasion of Ukraine, we have seen how small groups of 
warfighters armed with missiles and loitering munitions, they 
have real impacts on the ground.
    While I agree it is too early to draw definitive 
conclusions from the ongoing conflict, how do you expect the 
Marine Corps to incorporate any insights that are gained so far 
into future exercises as you test out new concepts of 
operations?
    General Berger. One advantage that we have, and the Army is 
the same, as we are deployed, we have deployed units in Europe 
right now. So they can see firsthand, a
    lot closer than you and I from Washington, DC, what is 
working and what is not. We have a built in model within the 
Marine Corps to feed that back in through our warfighting 
laboratory at Quantico into the ideas, the concepts, the 
capabilities of forces design 2030. There is no filter. It is a 
constant feedback loop.
    I think, as you hinted, although you got to be patient in 
terms of jumping on lessons learned too early while conflict is 
going on, I think the two for me, the character versus the 
nature of warfare, some things in other words, are enduring, 
and those lessons learned haven't changed, frankly. Some of 
them that my counterparts have highlighted in terms of the 
importance of small unit leaders and decentralized command and 
control, speed, momentum, inside the operating decision cycle 
of an adversary, those are enduring things.
    But the things that are changing, of course, the character 
of war, as you highlighted, the unmanned, the sensors, the 
growing importance of instilling confidence in those junior 
leaders to make decisions on their own quickly. So some things 
are staying the same and validated, some things in terms of the 
character of war, we need to absolutely feed back into the 
modernization effort, and we have a means to do that.
    Senator Fischer. Have you started any kind of consultation 
with our allies, especially within NATO, looking ahead at 
situations that are currently ongoing or that may develop in 
the near future?
    General Berger. In NATO specifically, yes. Yesterday I met 
with the Chief of Defense (CHOD) of Norway. We traveled to 
Norway last month, met with my counterparts and the Vice CHOD 
in Norway. In Poland right now, we have marine units operating 
in Poland, Latvia, and Estonia. We have a good exchange back 
and forth about what is working and what is not.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fisher. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the 
witnesses. General Bergner, in his opening statement said, we 
are all on the same page, we need 31 amphibious ships. I just 
want to make sure Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, that 
is, he was putting, not putting words in your mouth, but 
stating a consensus opinion.
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. This Administration is 
very committed to amphibious lift without any question. As you 
all know, there is over $2 billion in the budget this year 
alone in support of LHA and LPD-32 as well too.
    I commissioned an amphibious study when I became Secretary 
of the Navy to try to get at what the right requirements are. 
That was coordinated closely between the Navy and the Marine 
Corps, and we informed the Office of Cost Assessment and 
Program Evaluation (CAPE) as well of all of our progress.
    That amphibious study is today being reported out here in 
the next couple of weeks within the Department. The findings of 
that amphibious study will also be included in the ongoing 
naval force structure analysis that takes place--is taking 
place right now in preparation for Program Objective Memoranda 
(POM) 2024. I suspect that as we conclude all those 
assessments, we will see considerable support for amphibious 
lift moving forward.
    Senator Kaine. Admiral Gilday.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. So the study that we just 
completed concluded 31, and we actually took a look at three 
cases that are consistent with the National Defense Strategy 
(NDS), the new NDS strategy. We took a look at traditional 
amphibs by themselves, looking across the spectrum of war and 
what they contribute, both in deterrence and also in the fight.
    We took a look at light amphibious warships in the future 
with those vessels in expeditionary advanced bases. Then we 
took a look at traditional amphibs and light amphibs together.
    We tried to take a look at it holistically, not just in the 
first two cases, but at the total amphibious fleet, postulating 
as best we can how we use them in the future. That is informing 
both the final number and then our acquisition path to field 
them.
    Senator Kaine. Well, this is good news that--you know, 
there have been mixed messages about this and the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense (OSD) Cape had numbers as low as 12 or 24. 
So I know the study will be out formally soon. Based on the 
testimony today, we expect to see that at 31, and I appreciate 
your testimony.
    Secretary Del Toro, I want to ask you about the George 
Washington (GW). There has been a series of deaths, but also 
the underlying conditions that sailors endure while a carrier 
is undergoing an overhaul. These overhauls are unlike others, 
which might be months at a time. They take several years. The 
GW has been in overhaul since 2017, and that means that some 
sailors will spend their entire career on a ship that never 
goes to sea, and they will never perform the duties that they 
trained for after graduating from boot camp.
    I wonder if that fact, the length of these berths in the 
shipyard, is a challenging factor. I know that you were in a 
shipyard with one of the ships you commanded for 18 months 
during your Active Duty career. Talk a little bit about how the 
Navy is looking at this George Washington situation, not only 
the particular instances, but the particular challenges that 
result from these very lengthy shipyard berths.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir, and thank you for your question, 
Senator. Without question, there is no greater responsibility 
than our safety of our sailors and our marines, and 
particularly when sailors go into an extended overhaul in a 
shipyard. Shipyard life itself is challenging enough.
    When you are in the shipyard that long, it presents 
additional challenges. I think institutionally, the Department 
of the Navy, we need to collectively do a better job to provide 
the necessary resources to the ship itself in the contracts 
that are negotiated with the shipyard itself, to provide a 
higher quality of life for those sailors in the shipyard.
    There are two investigations that are ongoing right now, 
command investigation, as well as an additional investigation 
by the Navy to look at some of these additional quality of life 
factors that perhaps play a role in this very unfortunate 
situation.
    But we need to develop a plan that is more robust than what 
we are currently doing for especially aircraft carriers, 
because you are introducing upwards of 2,500 sailors into an 
already challenging environment.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Secretary, and finally, 
General Berger, I am just going to conclude. My wife and I are 
moving this weekend from the family home of 30 years into a 
condo, and everything, every drawer we open is a memory and 
everything we throw away is a memory, and everything we give to 
the kids or to refugee families is a memory. We are excited, 
but change is hard. Change is hard.
    I have been thinking about that a little bit in connection 
with some of the comments about Force Design 2030. I, for one, 
appreciate the fact that you have rethought fundamental 
assumptions and recognized the great things we have been doing, 
but also that the realities of the world mandate a Marine Corps 
that can perform the same mission but in very different ways, 
and that you are willing to embrace some significant change. I 
appreciate it. Thanks, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Good morning, gentlemen. Welcome. Thank you 
all for your testimony and for your service to the country. Mr. 
Secretary and Admiral, I want to thank you two for taking the 
time recently to discuss the findings of the report that I 
commissioned with a few House members about the state of 
culture and warfighting in the Navy, especially the surface 
Navy.
    I want to thank you for your thoughts on what you are doing 
to try to address some of those challenges. Mr. Secretary, I 
want to raise one of those specifically with you. What the 
report found was the so-called zero defect mentality in the 
Navy, especially among the officer corps in the surface fleet.
    Could you talk to us about the specific policies that you 
have enacted since you took over to counteract that zero defect 
mentality?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. It is more about an approach to our 
cultural approach in the Navy with regard to the command. As 
you know, the CNO, with my support and collaboration, have 
initiated a policy of get real, get better. Part of getting 
real is coming to a very honest determination of the challenges 
that you face and things that has to improve in order for us to 
get better.
    Part of that cultural dynamic is not having a zero defect 
mentality so that we can actually encourage our leadership at 
all levels, not just within the officer corps, but also within 
the noncommissioned officer corps, which is critical to our 
mission, so that they can honestly face the challenges that 
they have and provide recommendations that actually make things 
better.
    So it is more cultural change to just the issuance of 
individual policies.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Do you think that Lieutenant Halsey 
or Lieutenant Nimitz would have made it past Lieutenant 
Commander in today's Navy?
    Mr. Del Toro. Probably not.
    Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, what about you?
    Admiral Gilday. One of the things that we did recently is, 
I issued a new charge of command. This is a direction to our 
commanders, and I specifically addressed some areas where we 
have a Navy where we don't have tolerance, drug use would be an 
example, but we certainly can't be a no defect Navy.
    One of the things that, in terms of changing the culture, 
that we together are trying to institute is this idea of 
embracing the red. So as you see slides in the Pentagon where 
there are usually stoplight slides and people like to focus on 
things that are green, things that are going well, swimmingly 
well, when what we really need to focus on and create an 
environment to address is to embrace the red and to fix the 
red.
    This gets right to the fundamental need to be able to self-
assess and then to self-correct, as individuals is and as an 
institution. When we took a look at a major fires review and we 
took a look at 15 different fires over the course of 12 years, 
and we took a look at the variance between units that perform 
very well and units that don't, it came down to the ability to 
self-assess and an environment that allows that to happen 
without being punished for basically communicating fearlessly 
up the chain of command.
    That is what we are looking for fundamentally, sir, in 
terms of changing the culture, not just in the surface Navy, 
but across the Navy. It is going to take us a while, but I 
think we are on--we are in the beginning of a right path that 
has been well received by the fleet.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Thank you both. Again, that was just 
one issue from that report. I thank you all for the time you 
took to discuss that and the other issues, and I look forward 
to continue to work with you to implement those reforms, make 
sure our surface Navy is strong and healthy and ready to fight 
and win wars in the future.
    General Berger, I heard a lot today about your Force 2030 
concept and you have heard some support for it from the 
Committee as well. I just want to be direct about it, though. 
You seem to have kicked over a hornet's nest among a lot of 
your fellow retired marines--I guess you are not retired, but 
fellow marines who are retired.
    Even among a former marine who was Secretary of the Navy 
and a member of the Senate. So I just want to give you a chance 
in plain English to respond to their many public critiques of 
your plan. Why do you think they are wrong in those critiques?
    General Berger. The genesis, the start point was really 
General Dunford when he was Commandant and then followed by 
General Neller when they, in a setting like this, articulated 
that the Marine Corps, although is very healthy and capable at 
that time, was not organized, wasn't trained, wasn't equipped 
for what the National Defense Strategy called for.
    I agree with that. I also think that the speed at which we 
have to change is not necessarily driven by ourselves, it is 
driven by the adversary. It is driven by the pace of change of 
the threats. The level of risk is probably where it boils down 
to between those who feel like we should go at a more 
conservative, slower pace. I am driven by the pace at which the 
adversary is moving. We have to stay in front of that.
    My job, like the CNO's, is not just to make sure that the 
Marine Corps is capable today, but 5 years from now that we 
have a margin of advantage over the PLAN or whatever the pacing 
challenge is 5 years from now. That is our job.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you for the testimony and thank you 
for all the hard work you put into that. I hold you and the 
Marine Corps in high esteem. I hold many of your critics in 
high esteem as well, though, and I know the Committee will be 
working through all of those arguments about what has happened, 
because we share the same goal about a Marine Corps that is 
ready not just to fight today, but back tomorrow as well.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Del 
Toro, thank you for your support and commitment to deal with 
the Red Hill fuel installation situation in a way that helps 
restore Hawaii's confidence in the Navy. So the President's 
decision to include $1 billion for the Red Hill Recovery Fund 
in his fiscal year 2023 request to permanently close Red Hill, 
not only protects the island's drinking water, but ultimately 
benefits our operations in the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command 
(INDOPACOM).
    The closure rate is going to be a multiyear and multi-
faceted endeavor and will require the Department of Defense to 
work closely with the Hawaii Department of Health and the 
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Secretary Del Toro, can 
you explain how the Navy is planning for the execution of these 
funds, and any concerns you have related to safe defueling of 
the tanks and closing of the facility?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. Thank you, Senator--and 
thank you for your leadership on this issue. It means a great 
deal to our sailors, our marines, our Air Force, our Army 
soldiers, and, of course, all the people of Hawaii as well, 
too.
    I am pleased that the Department of Navy has collaborated 
very closely with all the agencies in Hawaii, on Oahu and 
elsewhere, on this very important task. We will continue to 
collaborate and work very aggressively with all the appropriate 
agencies. As you know, I have a requirement to submit to the 
Secretary of Defense a Plan of Action and Milestones (POA&M).
    We are currently in the assessment stage of putting 
together that plan of objectives analysis memorandum to come up 
with the right steps that are necessary. At the same time, 
there are several investigations that are underway that are 
going to be revealing on matters and issues that have to be 
corrected as well too. Those findings will be included in our 
overall plan.
    There is a third party assessment, as you know, that has 
concluded and is being reviewed right now in the Department of 
Defense so that we can properly make the investments that are 
necessary to determine what steps have to be taken to properly 
and safely defuel Red Hill. We will be collaborating very 
closely in accordance with the Executive Order that was just 
issued--revised Executive Order.
    As you know, we have appealed the right to a hearing on 
that, and we wish to continue to collaborate very closely with 
Hawaii and all the involved agencies to get to the right 
result, so that we could also inform the Congress in terms of 
the investments that have to be made to properly execute the 
plan.
    Senator Hirono. Well, what started off, from my 
perspective, as a situation where the State of Hawaii, the 
Navy, Department of Defense (DOD) writ large, we were 
definitely not on the same page, and that is why your 
commitment to collaborating, and where I have seen that the 
State of Hawaii is withdrawing probably some concerns they had 
about the third party assessment, and the Navy holding back on 
some appeals processes that they could pursue, I think that is 
what we have to do. That everybody needs to get on the same 
page and work together, so that is what I am looking for 
because this is a very complicated situation, as you well know.
    General Berger, we have heard a lot about the 30--
commitment to 31 amphibious ship situation, and this is a new 
number. So how would terminating the LPD line and having fewer 
than 31 ships impact the Marine Corps' ability to respond 
globally?
    What I am getting at is I too am committed to 31 ships and 
there are people who don't think that that is the right number, 
but what if you--if you have fewer than 31 ships, what does 
that do to your ability to respond globally?
    General Berger. I will start off, and if there is time, ask 
the CNO if he has additional thoughts. But from my perspective, 
with the rest of the Joint Force modernizing as it is, the 
Marine Corps is probably one of the best hedges you have right 
now in the next 4 or 5 years. We have to be forward. We have to 
be ready.
    This study that came to the result of 31 Incorporated, as a 
CNO highlighted, not just scenarios that OSD uses, but how to 
deter, how to respond quickly. 31 is a floor. Even with 31, 
there is risk. Of course there is. If we don't have 31, there 
are places--and there are things that are going to happen in 
the next 4 or 5, 6 years where the U.S. cannot respond. In the 
worst cases, somebody else gets there first and they are not a 
friend of ours.
    Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, do you have anything to 
add?
    Admiral Gilday. I do. Thank you, ma'am. So this is all 
about speed. It is about flexibility. It is about agility. It 
is about having options, not just in one theater, but around 
the globe. The Fleet Marine Force afloat provides options to 
every single combatant commander, whether it is in the High 
North, where we see those forces exercising today, or whether 
it is in the Middle East or whether it is in the Western 
Pacific, everything from humanitarian assistance to they are 
perhaps our best platforms for working together with allies and 
partners.
    Why? Because they are like F150 trucks filled with hundreds 
of marines with Ka Bar in their teeth. They are a motivator for 
our allies and partners. There are hundreds of different uses, 
almost--you are almost only limited by your imagination in 
terms of how you can use that force.
    So, again, they provide options, agility, speed. I think 
the number 31 allows you to get more ships at sea and allows 
you to have--allows you to have more options.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, and, Mr. Chairman, if I could 
just make two very short observations or comments. Regarding 
SIOP, we better to do a much better job of estimating the cost 
of the dry docks and all of that, because that is--that was a 
huge difference in what was happening with Portsmouth.
    The cost estimate was $750 million and then the contract 
came in at $1.7 billion. Huge difference. We need to not have 
that. I brought up the 15-ship multiyear procurement, and I 
checked with the shipbuilders, and they said that they could 
build an additional ship.
    So we need to come together on whether or not 15 ships is 
what we can actually get to. So I just wanted to make that 
observation, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Rounds, 
please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, first 
let me begin by saying thank you to all of you for your years 
of service to our country. Admiral Gilday, let me once again 
thank you for the time that you have taken to visit with us 
most recently on Tuesday of this week, and your explanation of 
the movement that you are making within the cyber operations 
for the Navy and the improvements that you envision making as 
well.
    I would like to pivot from that a little bit and move back 
in along a similar line to what some other members here have 
talked about, and that is with regard to the maintenance and 
the operations within our shipyards. In particular, I come back 
down to the same boat that I have talked about in the past , 
the USS Boise, I believe a Los Angeles-class attack submarine.
    This is an item which has been up for, and it was supposed 
to be in the shop for its overhaul in the 2015, 2016 time 
period. It has been delayed for a number of reasons since that 
time, and there has been a constant discussion about moving 
forward. I understand that you are now moving forward and that 
you have decided to begin that process.
    Could you share with the Committee the thinking that you 
are using and the thought process that goes into the decision 
that rather than scrapping that piece of machinery and actually 
rehabbing it, and the other ones, which are also behind it in 
line, for their upgrades?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. So I think everybody in this room 
understands the utility of our submarine force and its 
importance on a day to day basis in not only deterring 
adversaries, but when it comes to fight and win, they are 
absolutely essential as our most survivable, stealthy, strike--
effective strike platform that we have in the Navy, perhaps in 
the entire Joint Force. So giving away any single submarine 
should only be--that decision should be made after great 
deliberation and exhaustion of other options.
    So in the case of some of our newer 688--688 submarines or 
688i's, which have a Vertical Launch System (VLS) capability, 
we have seven of them planned for engineering overhauls as an 
example, to keep what some might refer to as a legacy platform, 
continue to get four or five deployments out of these 
submarines so that we can continue to keep them in the fight, 
if you will. The challenge with Boise really rests inside the 
private shipyard that is doing that work.
    So we have two private yards that do that work and we need 
their capacity. So based on the fact that we continue to build 
a viable submarine force, and we know that we don't have the 
capacity in our public shipyards to handle all of that 
maintenance, we need Electric Boat, and we need Huntington 
Ingalls to be able to do that work.
    They are underperforming. They are over cost and way over 
schedule. But because we need them, we need to hold their feet 
to the fire to those contracts. They need to pay penalties when 
they don't meet their requirements. But we need them to be all 
in with us and the Nation that they are supporting in this 
critical effort. But we need to continue sort of to press them 
to do a better job. We need that capability. It is a national 
imperative.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. General Berger, I have 
looked at your Force Design 2030, and I know that Senator 
Cotton led into this a little bit. There are some very well-
respected former officials within the Marine Corps that had 
questioned whether or not it was the right direction to go.
    I appreciate the fact that you have continued to move 
forward, but I think perhaps just for the Committee, we could 
walk way back a little bit in terms of all of the reasons for 
the need to move in this direction.
    I think back to perhaps, and I may be off on this, but in 
the Nagorno Karabakh war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, which 
was caught between September of 2020 and November of 2020, we 
saw two countries that really did not have huge armies, and yet 
in a very short period of time, Azerbaijan was able to have a 
very decisive victory using 21st century weapons systems, 
including loitering munitions, long range precision fires, a 
lot of the items that you are identifying as being necessary 
for the Marine Corps.
    Could you talk a little bit about the way that you envision 
the marines fighting, not just when it comes to People's 
Republic of China (PRC), but other areas around the world that 
some people think, well, we are looking at PRC. It appears to 
me that you are looking at lots of different scenarios here, 
but in particular, the reason why you have moved in the 
direction of loitering, munitions, and so forth.
    General Berger. Some folks have written about the precision 
strike regime, the evolution of that over the past 15 years, 20 
years. I am in full agreement there. Combine that with the 
proliferation of sensors, makes it a very different battlefield 
than we had 20 years ago. So we have to be able to operate 
inside the threat's collection range, inside their weapons 
range, and be lethal, both.
    That meant adjusting the construct, the warfighting 
concepts of the Marine Corps and our own structure within, to 
make sure that we can operate inside there persistently, strip 
away the adversary's ability to collect against the Joint Force 
and collect against them all at the same time. That is where we 
are headed. It is a different force than we had in Desert 
Shield, Desert Storm. It is not a persistent--it is not a 
second land army. It is what the Nation needs us to be able to 
do.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to start with 
an observation. Senator Cramer and I the other night had dinner 
with a former member of the Ukrainian parliament from Odessa, 
and he told us, this is a side effect of this war that I 
thought reflected well on our support of the Ukrainians, 
apparently a common name for a new male Ukrainian baby these 
days is Javelin.
    For female babies, it is Javelina, and I thought that was 
an indication of the importance of the support we are providing 
to the Ukrainian people. Mr. Secretary, I want to start with a 
complement which often doesn't occur at these hearings. I want 
to compliment you because, as I see it, your largest single 
increase in your budget is research and development (R&D).
    I think that is absolutely essential. Looking back through 
history, technology often wins wars or certainly has an 
important influence on the outcome of wars. In World War II, 
radar and of course the invention of the atomic weapon, which 
was pure R&D, ended World War II. Going back to the Battle of 
Agincourt was the longbow.
    Even the homely stirrup, many historians believe was the 
basis of Genghis Khan's ability to conquer the known world at 
that time because it provided stability to his archers on 
horseback. So I want to thank you for that. Now, here is the 
question. I believe the technological breakthrough of this 
moment in time is the hypersonic missile. My question is, are 
we dealing with that issue both from a defensive and an 
offensive capability point of view with the requisite sense of 
urgency?
    My concern is that our, for example, our forward presence 
in the Pacific is based upon aircraft carriers. I realize this 
is an unclassified setting, but I want some assurance that this 
is a hair on fire issue at the Pentagon to deal with what could 
be a strategic game changing technology, the hypersonic 
missile.
    Mr. Del Toro. Thanks for the question, Senator, and let me 
assure you wholeheartedly that this is a hair on fire type of 
investment in terms of developing the necessary, not just 
developing the R&D for it, but also as it applies to all our 
platforms and ensuring that we can quickly acquire that 
technology from the R&D to capabilities that we can actually 
put in the hands of the warfighters across the board.
    With regard to hypersonic, yes, we are making major 
investments in hypersonic. I feel quite confident that we are 
going to be seeing some of these tremendous capabilities, 
particularly Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS) on Zumwalt-class 
destroyers, be deployed within the next couple of years. Then 
we will be aggressively deploying those ships in the Indo-
Pacific where they will be most needed.
    Senator King. Admiral Gilday, are you comfortable with our 
progress in dealing with the strategic applications of 
hypersonic?
    Admiral Gilday. No, sir. I am not. But I will tell you what 
we are taking a look at. With respect to terminal defense, 
layered terminal defense, right now we have--we are deploying 
directed energy systems on some of our ships. We are testing it 
real time against both swarming surface vessels as well as a 
ballistic missile defense system, which gets your point about 
hypersonics.
    High powered microwave is another critical technology that 
we are investing in, and a critical enabler for any of those 
terminal defense systems is going to have to be quantum 
computing, another area where the Secretary has us making 
additional advances with respect to R&D.
    So in terms of giving us decision superiority over the 
adversary and understanding, applying both quantum computing 
with AI capabilities, helping us put a defensive weapon on a 
target like a fast moving hypersonic missile is going to be 
key. So those are some of the things that we are working on 
right now, sir, inside that R&D----
    Senator King. I like it that you started your answer to my 
question with no rather than bland assurances, because that 
indicates to me that you recognize the seriousness of this 
issue. A quick final point, Mr. Secretary, on an entirely 
different subject. There is data that indicates the most 
dangerous point for veteran suicide is in the first 2 or 3 
years after they separate from the service.
    I believe that the services should be putting as much money 
and time and effort and thought into transition out as it is to 
recruiting in, because this veteran suicide issue is serious. 
It is an embarrassment, and it is a tragedy to be losing 
something in the number of 20 veterans a day.
    But since we know from the data that that first year or so 
after leaving Active Duty is a moment of maximum danger, I hope 
that you will think about how to make that handoff from after 
Active Duty to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) warmer. 
Think about not only the physical pieces but also the mental 
and the stressors that impact our veterans as they become 
veterans.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I have, and I do actually, having 
personally made that transition myself. I know the challenges 
that one faces with regards to suicide and depression and 
things of that matter. I talk about it just about everywhere I 
go.
    I talk about how important it is for our sailors to take 
care of each other, to really care for each other throughout, 
when a sailor shows up to the ship, to the squadron, wherever 
it may be, while they are there, and actually as they 
transition from their command to another command or to the 
civilian sector as well, too.
    So we are focused on that, and we actually do work with the 
Department of Veterans Affairs on this issue.
    Senator King. Thank you. I hope that will be an urgent 
priority as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Blackburn, 
please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to each of you for your service and for being here with us 
today. I want to start with the Nuclear Posture Review. Admiral 
Gilday, yesterday in the House Armed Services Committee 
hearing, you were asked about support for continuing the Sea-
Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM), and your quote was you 
supported continuing it while we get a better understanding of 
the world we live in with two nuclear capable peer competitors.
    This is something that I have talked about with our 
commanders as they have come before us for their hearings. I 
have mentioned it to our Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. They 
have all expressed concern with the Administration's decision 
to cancel the Sea-Launched Cruise Missile and have--the 
Administration's position of that is redundant with our other 
capabilities.
    That is something that causes me concern. So, Admiral 
Gilday, I appreciated your remarks on this. So Secretary Del 
Toro, let me ask you, what is your position on this?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am. I agree with the President's 
budget. I believe that we should zero out the SLCM line. I 
believe the President has all the tools in his toolkit 
necessary to deter and deal with the threat of a tactical 
nuclear missile----
    Senator Blackburn. So you are not worried about our 
capabilities?
    Mr. Del Toro. I am not. I believe that the President has 
all the tools in his toolkit, whether W-76 weapons----
    Senator Blackburn. Your assessment of China as a--with 
their push on great power competition, that doesn't keep you up 
at night or worry you?
    Mr. Del Toro. That absolutely keeps me up at night and 
worries me. But as far as deterring China's nuclear capability, 
I believe that we far exceed what we have right now in terms of 
being able to deter the use of a tactical nuclear missile with 
the W-76 warhead----
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. What message do you think it sends 
to our competitors if we are going to reduce rather than 
bolster our nuclear capabilities?
    Mr. Del Toro. I think the message that it sends is that we 
are actually using those resources and to the tune of about $30 
billion to make the necessary investments in hypersonics----
    Senator Blackburn. So you completely agree with the 
President?
    Mr. Del Toro. Excuse me, ma'am?
    Senator Blackburn. You completely agree with the President?
    Mr. Del Toro. I completely agree with the President and 
Secretary of Defense.
    Senator Blackburn. That is what I wanted to know. Admiral 
Gilday, you also referenced a, in your words, a particular gap 
in capabilities which SLCM could fill. So tell me, what is that 
particular gap?
    Admiral Gilday. So the gap specifically is the tactical 
nuclear capability of specifically Russia, but gaining steam is 
China. The question is, how do you best close that gap? SLCM-N 
has been offered as a single point solution. I would offer that 
there are others to think about, including low yield nuclear 
weapons that we deploy right now and had support of the 
Congress, making those changes based on the previous Nuclear 
Posture Review (NPR).
    I also think hypersonics are an important capability. The 
Army is fielding that capability this year. The Navy is going 
to follow suit in 2025, as the Secretary mentioned, with that 
same capability.
    Senator Blackburn. Yes. Let me ask you about hypersonics 
because--and by the way, thank you for mentioning quantum 
computing. I totally agree with you and Oak Ridge National Lab 
is doing some great work in quantum research. When we look at 
hypersonics and we look at Arnold Engineering Development 
Center in Tennessee, which has the capability to support this 
hypersonic supply chain, talk to me about where you think we 
are with modernization for our testing facilities, where we are 
with outsourcing, when it comes to our hypersonic capabilities.
    Admiral Gilday. We continue to make investments in the 
testing facilities, including the testing facilities that allow 
us to take out hypersonic weapons and to refine its 
capabilities so that it is actually able to be launched from a 
submerged submarine, because we want to put that capability 
aboard our new subs as early as 2028. So that is an example of 
continued investment.
    As I look at the hypersonics program, that is a joint 
program among the services, we are meeting every benchmark and 
milestone in that program. So I am confident, I have a pretty 
high degree of confidence in the Army system that we will field 
this year, in a mobile system, and then the Navy system will 
follow suit.
    Now, I think with the continued support of Congress in 
those funding lines, and last year you actually doubled the 
Navy's funding for hypersonics, which we are grateful for.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, I spoke to General Brown during 
the Air Force posture hearing about this issue and the 
capabilities that we have at Arnold, and also about looking at 
how we leverage risk and how we take more risk in pushing 
forward in this sector. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blackburn. 
Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Berger, I 
have got a question about Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma. 
Arizona is really proud to host the marines in Yuma, including 
F-35 squadrons. I have had the opportunity to fly the F-35 
simulator a couple of times. It is nice to know that our 
fighters, our premier fighters, outmatch those of our 
adversaries, and we are happy to have them in Arizona.
    So we have got this premier fighter, but we also have a 
base that has some infrastructure problems, critical 
infrastructure. Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, they are 
currently planning to upgrade the water treatment facilities on 
the installation. My understanding is that the current 
treatment plant was built in 1947, so it is nearly 80 years 
old. This treatment plant supplies water for a large part of 
the base, bases, the bases' systems, but also supplies water 
for family housing and tenant commands, and the water doesn't 
meet water quality standards.
    I understand that the current budget plans would not seek 
funding for this project until fiscal year 2026. So I am 
concerned that the system is not able to meet these water 
quality regulations for potable water. This cannot be--with the 
current plan will not be addressed for a number of years.
    General, are you looking to expedite projects like Yuma's 
water treatment plant that affect the health and safety of our 
marines and their families?
    General Berger. Thanks, Senator. Having lived at Marine 
Corps Air Station Yuma in 1991 to 1994, I think, I know exactly 
what you are talking about. If you will allow me, Senator, I 
would like to look into this problem and come back to you 
individually with where that project is in funding, and to your 
point, what might be done to accelerate it.
    But you are never going to--I don't think you expect us to 
shoot from the hip. So if it is okay with you, I will do the 
homework and I will come back to your office with ``here is 
where it lays right now and we--and this is what it would take 
to accelerate it.''
    Senator Kelly. I appreciate that. I have spent a lot of 
time down there on the base looking at facilities. You know, I 
really love looking at the airplanes and spending time there, 
but it is as important as the airplanes are, you know, things 
like enlisted housing, which also we, my office would like to 
follow up on that issue as well. Got a totally different 
question for Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday.
    In April, the State Department announced that the United 
States and India had agreed at their recent two plus two dialog 
to explore possibilities of utilizing Indian shipyards for 
repair and maintenance of ships of the United States Maritime 
Sealift Command. I was in India just a few weeks ago and had 
discussions about this with Indian officials, deputy National 
Security advisor, their Secretary of Defense, and they were 
really interested in this opportunity and optimistic about it.
    So in connection with this possibility, Mr. Secretary, to 
what degree would doing this work enhance Navy and DOD 
operations in the Indo-Pacific region, and would doing this 
work in Indian shipyards strengthen U.S., Indian relations?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thanks, Senator, and thanks for your 
dedication to this issue, because what distinguishes us from 
the Russians and the Chinese is the alliances, the strength of 
the alliances that we have with our partner nations around the 
globe. That is no better example of our relationship with India 
as it continues to grow.
    While the specifics of this deal is being negotiated, I 
think overall that it is a perfect representation of what we 
need to continue to do around the globe as well in order to 
support our ships deployed in the Indo-Pacific. The CNO has 
been very engaged in this, and with your permission, I would 
like to ask him to discuss the matter further.
    Admiral Gilday. Thank you, sir. I visited India and I 
specifically asked to go to Mumbai to take a look at their 
civilian shipyards, to see for myself what their capabilities 
are. This is a quick win for the United States-India 
relationship. We are just sending now a team over there to do a 
more detailed survey. My goal is to get a ship in there this 
summer to do voyage repairs.
    So, it gives us more flexibility, more opportunities in 
theater to get ships fixed. They have a high degree of 
confidence in their ability to do that. I think we are on the 
right track, sir, and I will follow up with you as we nail down 
that deal.
    Senator Kelly. All right, and if there is any other, you 
know, gaps and authorities that you need from Congress, please 
let us know. I would like to figure out a way to get this done. 
India and the United States, we have the same strategic problem 
in the region, and that is China. So it is--wherever we can 
look for opportunities to work jointly with the Indian 
Government, the Indian military, I think it benefits us. Thank 
you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you very 
much, gentlemen, for being here today and your service. Admiral 
Gilday, after the fall of Afghanistan, we didn't see a single 
senior officer lose their job. I think that surprised many, 
many people here in the United States.
    You know, we have heard a lot today about current culture 
problems plaguing the military, but I want to commend something 
that the Navy does exceptionally well, accountability. The Navy 
has a huge culture and accountability--for example, the USS 
Connecticut hit an underwater mountain last fall. Am I correct 
that you removed the Commander, Executive Officer, and the 
senior enlisted boat Chief?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, we did.
    Senator Tuberville. In your words, why is the Navy's 
culture of holding senior officers accountable more important 
in maintaining standards and performance? Could you give me 
your thoughts?
    Admiral Gilday. Well, sir, I think standards of command are 
very important. They are grounded in the law. They are also 
grounded in Navy regulations. But more importantly, there is 
the expectation that our sailors have that we hold our seniors 
accountable.
    Perhaps even more important than that, the confidence of 
the American people. That they send their youth to serve for 
their country and that they be well-led. If they are not well-
led, then we change those leaders out.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. In your opening statement, 
there was a couple things that struck me, and this is also for 
General Berger. Recruiting, training, and accountability. You 
said that you would much prefer quality over quantity, and I 
think we all agree with that. 21st century military. I think 
that we all need to open our eyes about what just happened in 
the last 70, 80 days, Russia going into Ukraine.
    Russia had every hand up in Ukraine, except Russia didn't 
realize, they hadn't been in a war in a while, and their mid-
level officers failed, their leadership failed. They had all 
kind of weapons, and they got their tails handed to them. I 
think it is very, very important that we understand this is a 
different era. I just came from coaching. The kids, young men 
and women have changed over the last 20, 30 years, and we need 
to change with it.
    Now, I take my hat off to General Berger of what he has 
done in terms of changing his philosophy of the weapons that 
they might use in certain ways. What do you think about the 
future of recruiting and training and the accountability of 
today's young men and women in our armed forces?
    Admiral Gilday. Well, sir, I think our recruiting--there 
are definitely recruiting challenges based on the fact that the 
pool of qualified recruits is getting smaller, is not getting 
larger. I will say this, I think it is important for the 
country to celebrate what a great military that we have so that 
our youth actually see that as a viable, attractive option for 
them to serve their country with pride and to make their 
families proud.
    But it is something that, you know, all too often, you 
know, there are plenty of cheap shots out there, it is easy to 
be negative. But, boy, the further you get away from D.C., the 
better things look with respect to the United States Navy and 
the United States Marine Corps, and the quality of people that 
we have serving and the quality leaders, the dedication, the 
passion, the commitment, it is a great outfit with a great 
future for anybody that wants to join.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. General Berger.
    General Berger. Sir, you mentioned Russia and other folks 
in here have mentioned China. I think in the same way as some 
people contrast the democracy versus, you know, autocracy, we 
have an All-Volunteer Force. Not lost on us, right. In other 
words, sort of like democracy is an experiment. All-Volunteer 
Force is not on autopilot. I mean, that is where you are 
driving it.
    We have to work at an All-Volunteer Force. It is not on 
autopilot. Now all of us, every recruiter, all of you are part 
of the health of that force. They come into the military for a 
lot of reasons. Money is an incentive, but that is not why they 
joined the Navy, that is not why they joined the Marine Corps. 
They want to be part of something bigger. They want to be 
challenged. They want to contribute to the U.S. We all have to 
be proactive, I think, in how we bring them into the military. 
It is not on autopilot. It is not on cruise control.
    Senator Tuberville. We can't lose our hard nose training 
because you just saw what happened with Russia's military. 
Social media, to those men and women fighting for Russia was a 
problem. They all had phones and they are able to read those. 
It is a different era.
    We need to make sure we can adjust to this era along with 
it, because if we don't, then it doesn't make any difference 
how much money we spend or how we go about recruiting. If we 
don't look at the problems that we just saw from a superpower, 
then we will not learn ourselves and we could end up on the 
same side of the boat. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Del 
Toro, in February of this year, a Federal judge approved a 
settlement agreement in the class action lawsuit Manker v. Del 
Toro. The lawsuit alleged that the Navy had systematically 
denied discharge status upgrades to Corporal Manker and 
thousands of other marines and sailors who were suffering from 
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) or Traumatic Brain Injury 
(TBI) at the time of their discharge.
    These denials were in direct contravention of statute, as 
well as internal DOD memoranda. That both a Federal judge and 
the Department of Navy agreed to a settlement demonstrates the 
veracity of the claims put forward by Corporal Manker. This 
agreement is also in line with the earlier settlement agreement 
from Kennedy v. McCarthy, which dealt with nearly the same 
issue but for the Department of the Army.
    As a sponsor of the Fairness for Veterans Act, the issue of 
bad paper discharges and ensuring our veterans are getting the 
benefits they have earned through their service is a priority 
for me, and the allegations leveled in Manker v. Del Toro are 
certainly extremely troubling for these folks who were 
suffering from PTSD and was not diagnosed at the time of their 
discharge.
    My question for you, sir, is why did the Navy choose to 
ignore the Fairness for Veterans Act as well as protections 
laid out in Hagel, Kurta, Wilkie, and Carson memos when dealing 
with veterans appearing before the Naval Discharge Review 
Board?
    [Technical problems.]
    Chairman Reed. Mr. Secretary, could you bring the 
microphone close, please?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator, for your support of the 
Fairness for Veterans Act. As to the question--and thank you 
for your support of our veterans in general. I am committed to 
ensuring that our veterans receive the appropriate due process 
through the Navy's Discharge Review Board, and I am pleased 
that we were able to settle on this matter. As I understand it, 
the Department of the Navy did not endorse the Fairness for 
Veterans Act, or the protections laid out in these memos.
    Though Department of Navy did not clearly articulate that 
the memos were taken into consideration during the adjudication 
process itself. The memos provide that not all misconduct can 
be mitigated. However, there are nuances, including when the 
memos were issued, and which entities and classes of veterans 
were subject to them.
    I would be happy to set up a specific briefing with your 
offices to discuss these nuances and your concerns but let me 
assure you that we will continue to cooperate to the fullest 
extent as we actually execute the details of the agreement 
itself.
    Senator Peters. Do you do you see any difficulties in fully 
complying with this settlement, and what are the timelines you 
have?
    Mr. Del Toro. I do not. I will have to get back to you on 
the exact timeline, Senator.

    Mr. Del Toro. Based on current staffing levels, and the 
need to continue meeting the regular demand and activity of all 
Council of Review Board (CORB) boards, the CORB anticipates a 
minimum of 60 months to complete the review and handle the 
roughly 3000+ cases involved in the Manker settlement.
    One restrictive measure is the need for a medical officer, 
usually a psychiatrist or psychologist, to be part of the 
review team. Medical officers, especially psychiatrists and 
psychologists, are in short supply.

    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate it. I would love to work 
with your office on this issue going forward.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir.
    Senator Peters. General Berger, Force Design 2030 calls 
for, among many things, the Marine Corps to more 
enthusiastically embrace the use of drones, both at the 
tactical level, through the use of Ravens and Pumas, but also 
at the operational level with a recent procurement of MQ-9s.
    If U.S. Indo-Pacific Command is the theater priority, which 
it is, and increasing the marines' organic ISR is a priority of 
yours as well, that I understand, I am curious though, how you 
plan to embrace these new platforms as you also at the same 
time simultaneously seek to divest yourself of roughly 10,000 
marines over the next decade.
    So my question for you is, in an era of constrained budgets 
and static or declining personnel levels, how do you plan to 
leverage the manpower resources available to you in the Marine 
Corps Forces Reserves to bolster the Marine Corps ISR 
capabilities and use of drones?
    General Berger. A couple of thoughts, sir. First, the 
divestments for the Marine Corps are largely done. That is what 
the last 3 years was focused on, including the structure. We 
are about where we are leveled off at 177,000 plus or minus, 
and that is about where we were before 9/11. So that part is 
complete.
    The modernization of the Marine Corps, as you highlighted, 
will amplify the role of unmanned systems, air, surface, 
ground, and closing--organically closing kill chains and kill 
webs is what enables that forward force to do what it is going 
to need to do. So what is the difference?
    Well, some of it is the change in the way that we operate. 
In other words, unmanned systems for the last 15 years had a 
big footprint on the ground in terms of ground control 
stations, infusion. All of that, I think artificial 
intelligence and the modernization of the network will shrink 
that.
    Second, frankly, the folks who operate those systems now, 
they are digital natives. This is the world they grew up in. So 
we are not teaching somebody something from scratch. This is 
something they have lived with since they were a teenager.
    Senator Peters. That is correct. Thank you so much. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator Sullivan, 
please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you for your service. General, I want to stay focused on 
Force Design. Again, I appreciate, like a lot of Senators, bold 
initiatives pursuant to the 2018 NDS that you have undertaken 
with Force Design. I do want to go into a couple of the bigger 
issues that have emerged, one in which I see probably the 
biggest risk to the force and the mission of the Marine Corps 
that I am concerned about is the rate of divestiture compared 
to the rate of new capability development being fielded.
    It is in essence building on what Senator Peters mentioned. 
In particular, a lot of the experts view one of the most 
dangerous periods in United States, China relations as in the 
late 2020s. As you have executed Force Design, the Marine Corps 
has reduced the number of--the number and size of infantry 
battalions, divested all its tanks, reduced the number of 
aviation squadrons and cannon artillery batteries.
    Additionally, just last month, the Light Amphibious Warship 
(LAW), a central piece to the concept of Stand-In Forces in 
Force Design, was announced will be further delayed until 2025. 
First ship is not expected till 2027.
    Can you explain how the rate of divestiture and the rate of 
new capability development integration keeps the Marine Corps 
optimally prepared for conflict today and in the future? Is 
there risk and how do you mitigate it? I believe there is risk.
    General Berger. There absolutely is risk. I think in any 
organization that goes through Force Design, civilian sector or 
military, if you are going through that effort, there is 
absolutely some risk. The challenge is making sure you can see 
it, you can understand it, that you share it with the 
stakeholders, including this Committee.
    You have ways to offset that risk while you are modernizing 
at speed. If we had waited--for example, Senator, if we had 
waited 3 years, let's say we have waited until this year to 
start divestment, we would never be able to stay in front of 
China. That is the assumption going forward.
    At the rate that they are modernizing and expanding, if we 
had waited, we never could have closed the gap, never would 
have stayed in front.
    Senator Sullivan. Can I ask you, General, just to your 
comments that you just made, to work with this Committee to 
ensure that this--again, there is a lot of divestment going on 
right now, pretty dramatic, and capability development is 
further out. The LAWs are delayed. Some of these systems 
haven't been fully developed.
    Can you provide to this Committee a timeline and a chart 
that anticipates year by year between now and 2030, or maybe 
even looking back when Force Design 2030 began, to what we are 
divesting and what we are gaining and how will that make sure 
that the gap in the trough between divestment in combat 
capability is not so big that it poses risk to the force or 
mission? Can you provide that to the Committee?
    General Berger. I can absolutely do that, and that is the 
rationale, that is the reason behind publishing each year, 
``this is where we are with Force Design, this is what we have 
learned today, the actions taken, this is the plan ahead,'' 
which we published last month for this year.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes. No, I saw that.
    General Berger. That is the goal.

    General Berger. Given the current operational and threat 
environment, legacy and status quo capabilities do not sustain 
the United States' competitive advantage. By modernizing at 
speed, the Marine Corps reduces ``long-term'' risk to force and 
mission. Modernization efforts will always incur some risk to 
current operational demands. However, the prolonged delay in 
modernization creates greater risk with respect to a pacing 
adversary. Our modernized systems provide an order-of-magnitude 
increase in capability that is applicable in a near-peer fight, 
and across the range of military operations.
    The Marine Corps does assume short-term risk in overall 
capacity stemming from the transition from current legacy 
platforms to a modernized capability. However, the current 
modernization program will not incur risk to the Marine Corps' 
crisis response capability. As modernization progresses, 
capability will actually increase. The Marine Corps continues 
to leverage all elements of the Marine Air Ground Task Force to 
mitigate potential imbalances between investments and 
divestments.

    Senator Sullivan. I appreciate you working with us on that. 
Let me go to another issue and you mentioned it in your 
testimony, but some of the criticisms of Force Design is that 
it is so China focused that it undermines the Corps' capability 
to be a lethal force in readiness, to meet any contingency 
anywhere in the world, which, of course, is a hallmark of the 
Marine Corps.
    Can you describe in detail how the Marine Corps of 2030 
will apply to combat--combined arms across a range of global 
conflict scenarios, and how that compares and enhances your 
current combined arms and Marine Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF) 
capabilities anywhere in the world, not just China.
    General Berger. The distinction--the understanding of what 
pacing means matters, of course. The term pacing, of course, 
predates 2018 when the National Defense Strategy first came 
out. Pacing, that is that level, that is the bar at which the 
capabilities, if you have to either match or overmatch that in 
order to compete and win.
    It is not about invading China. It is not about fighting 
China. It is about that is the level of capabilities that the 
Joint Force and the Marine Corps has to have, has to have a 
relative advantage over. So the whole Force Design effort, in 
fact, the modernization of the Joint Force is meant with that 
in mind.
    Not us, what is the likelihood of us fighting China, but 
what is the level of capabilities that we will need in order to 
have a relative advantage now and into the future? Combined 
arms in the past of course worked very well for the Marine 
Corps, has ensured our success. It will be the foundation going 
forward. But how we fight combined arms will change. The 
integration of sensors to shooters was step number one.
    The second one is the shortening the steps from the data to 
the shooting element. This is a progression of combined arms, 
this natural, this is evolution. Again, driven by technology on 
the one hand, and the threat on the other hand.
    Combined arms in 2030 or combined arms in 2027 will look a 
little bit different than today, and it is necessary, but it is 
still combined arms, and it is in support of, or in conjunction 
with, maneuver always.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator Rosen, 
please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed, for holding 
this hearing. Thank you, the witnesses, for being here today, 
for your service. Secretary Del Toro, it is really good to see 
you again. Thank you for meeting with me recently. Of course, I 
am going to talk about our Fallon Naval Air Station today. 
Secretary Del Toro, as you well know, we are so proud, Nevada 
is so proud to host Fallon Naval Air Station. It is home to Top 
Gun, our Nation's premiere carrier air wing, and our SEAL 
training centers.
    The Navy is seeking to expand Fallon by over 650,000 acres. 
As we have discussed on several occasions, this proposal would 
impact our local communities, our tribes, sportsmen, ranchers, 
and others who currently access and operate on these lands. I 
really appreciate the visits you and Admiral Gilday have made 
to Fallon, and your continued collaboration with me and the 
Nevada delegation.
    Thank you to all the local stakeholders, as we all work to 
reach consensus on a proposal that both supports the military 
modernization requirements you are speaking of, keep up with 
our current and emerging threats, while maintaining Nevada's 
natural and cultural resources through land mitigations in the 
northern parts of our State.
    I know we have been working with the Department of Interior 
to improve the original expansion request, and that the Office 
of Management and Budget (OMB) has just cleared the legislative 
proposal on Tuesday for Congressional review. So now that it 
has been released to Congress, could you speak a little bit 
about the specifics and how you think it addresses the concerns 
raised in the original Fallon proposal, Mr. Secretary?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for your leadership and 
the leadership of the entire delegation on this critically 
important issue to our combat readiness across to the 
Department of the Navy, both Marine Corps and Navy.
    Obviously, the expansion of Fallon is simply critical to 
our combat readiness in the future to be able to deter our 
aggressors and China, Russia, and anywhere else around the 
globe with modernized aircraft and missile systems and weapon 
systems.
    It is just simply critical that our warfighters be able to 
train like they fight in order to create a culture of 
warfighting excellence.
    I am very pleased the Department of Navy has been able to 
come to agreement with all the stakeholders that are involved 
in a very respectful way across the entire community to try to 
come to a better place so that this legislative proposal can 
move forward here in the Congress.
    We do look forward to its possible passing this coming 
year.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I want to talk about a critical 
housing shortage, though, at the Naval Air Station, because it 
is the only naval base in the continental United States that is 
designated as a critical housing area.
    The housing shortage has just been--we have been briefed to 
leadership for future construction. Little progress has been 
made. The shortage, of course, is only getting worse. As we 
modernize and expand, this is going to place a bigger strain on 
housing.
    I understand that there is about 400 acres of land adjacent 
to the current base housing at Fallon, which was once housing 
that was demolished years ago. Are there plans to re-utilize 
this, and can I have your commitment to really increase housing 
in Fallon and surrounding areas?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, this is another issue that is 
incredibly important to the quality of life of our sailors 
across all the Nation, and specifically to Fallon as well too. 
Allow me to come back to you with answers that regards a 
specific issue there at Nevada in terms of the timeline.
    But we are deeply committed to providing not just family 
housing to our sailors who have families, but also to our 
single sailors as well too in order to provide them the quality 
of life that they deserve. Admiral, would you like to comment 
any further on that or----?
    Admiral Gilday. Just a quick comment, ma'am. Fallon is a 
national treasure. What we--what it provides for our 
warfighters is absolutely unmatched. If you take a look at 
Russia showing up to a fight untrained that is a reason why we 
need Fallon.
    The first time we use these weapons with these aircraft 
can't be in conflict. With respect to housing, we are making an 
investment in Fallon, and we hope to put, we are on track to 
put a contract for 172 new units in place about a year from 
now.
    Senator Rosen. Well, that is terrific, because we know 
Fallon, of course, is a small area surrounding there. There is 
a housing shortage already. You can't expand and modernize and 
bring the kind of staff that we need, even the workforce for 
the surrounding community to support everyone, unless we have 
at least affordable housing for our servicemen and women.
    I appreciate you getting on this and thinking about it as 
quickly as we can and get it on the board. Because I--we can't 
have homeless servicemen and women. That is for sure. Thank 
you. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rosen. Senator 
Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chair, for holding for me. I want 
to thank each of you for your service, your hard work in trying 
to make sure we have the most lethal military in the world. Can 
you talk about how it doesn't seem like our risks are going 
down? China is continuing to be belligerent. They are trying--
they are building a big navy. Russia is not getting better.
    You know, there is no place in the world that seems like it 
is getting safer right now. So the President's Budget has us 
shrinking our naval battle force from 298 ships today to 280 in 
fiscal year 2027.
    So talk about how you are going to--how you are going to 
deal with the reduced capacity, how--you know, what plans do 
you have to be able to continue to provide the same support 
around the world where it might be needed?
    Mr. Del Toro. Good morning, Senator. It is an incredibly 
important question. Yes, capacity does dip down in the next 5 
years, but then it steadies out again 5 years later according 
to the shipbuilding plan. But what is more important is that 
although the size of the Navy may dip, the capabilities of the 
Navy are actually going to be greater than they ever have been 
before.
    We are actually bringing online just over the next set of 
50 battle force ships and supply ships that are going to be far 
more capable of deterring our aggressors, China, Russia, 
anywhere else that we face aggressors around the globe than we 
have been able to in the past with the type of R&D investments 
in modernization that is critical to deter them in every way.
    Senator Scott. Admiral Gilday.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, we have underinvested in the United 
States Navy for two decades, for a good reason, based on our 
priorities in Afghanistan and Iraq. As you know, getting the 
industrial base, putting that rudder over and generating new 
capability at speed, that is a challenge, particularly when you 
think about the complexity of the warships, the best warships 
in the world that we put to sea manned by the best sailors in 
the world, and so it is going to take time.
    I would draw a parallel to the Commandant's challenge with 
Force Design 2030, when new capabilities always lag the 
divestment. But based on the top line that we have, and based 
on the threat that we face, particularly with respect to China, 
we have to make sure that based on the budget we have, we are 
fielding the most lethal, capable, ready force that we can.
    You mentioned in your comments upfront that lethality 
matters, so I think we are 100 percent aligned with respect to 
that. We are trying to make sure that both the Navy that we 
have today, the Navy we have in the future, has the best 
capabilities, but also is the best trained force that we can 
put on those ships.
    Senator Scott. Can you explain what happened with the 
Littoral Combat Ships that we just commissioned a couple of 
years ago, now we are talking about--I mean, what happened? Did 
we just--did our needs change or did we pick the wrong ship 
before? I mean, it is a pretty big investment to get rid of.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. So the Navy's enduring missions 
are sea control and power projection. We should never, ever 
lose sight of the capabilities that we are going to invest in, 
contribute to those two missions. I would offer that LCS was an 
idea 20 or 25 years ago that just did not consider those two 
missions with respect to those two enduring missions, with 
respect to a high end peer competitor like we face right now 
with China.
    With respect to the nine ships we have right now on the 
table in this budget proposal to retire, that is primarily 
driven by the fact that the systems that we were going to put 
on that ship just did not pan out in terms of technical 
capability against the threat that we are facing.
    My best advice would be not to put another dollar against 
those systems, but to reinvest that in systems that really make 
a difference in the future and in weapons that we need today in 
the fleet.
    Senator Scott. Okay. Thank you. General Berger, as you 
revamp what the Marine Corps is doing, can you talk about how 
you are going to have to change your working relationship with 
the other branches of Government to be able to fulfill your 
mission?
    General Berger. I don't know that it is a fundamental 
shift, or are you talking about outside the Department of 
Defense, Senator? Is that what you mean or----?
    Senator Scott. No, the other branches of the military.
    General Berger. Oh, the other branches. Here, I think no 
fundamental change, no, but I think a more realistic view of 
where overlaps are between the services that are healthy and 
where they are redundant and excessive. In certain areas, for 
the Joint Force to do what it needs to do, overlap is healthy--
overlap is a good thing. But where it gets to be excessive, 
inefficient, okay, there we have to be able--we have to make 
the hard decisions. That is part of what is driving Force 
Design.
    Senator Scott. All right. Thank you. Thank each of you for 
what you are doing.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator Wicker, 
please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand there 
has been a lot of discussion about LPDs. Let me just see if we 
can summarize. General Berger, your requirement for traditional 
amphibious ships is 31, is that right?
    General Berger. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Admiral Gilday, you agree with that, is 
that correct?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. Our joint analysis supports that.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Now, there is a study that the CNO, 
Admiral Gilday, has told us today confirms that 31 is the 
requirement. So, Mr. Secretary, that is a fact, is it not?
    Mr. Del Toro. The study has concluded. The findings of the 
studies are now being reported out and being discussed in the 
Department of Defense, as well as by myself, as well as in the 
Department of Navy. The findings of that study now has to be 
balanced by the force structure assessment that is being 
conducted for POM 2024 that is aligned to the National Defense 
Strategy. So there is some additional work that needs to be 
done before the final determination is made.
    Senator Wicker. Mr. Secretary, do Admiral Gilday and 
General Berger know what they are talking about?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir, they do.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. So have they made a misstatement 
today?
    Mr. Del Toro. No, sir, they have not made a misstatement 
today.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and we were told we would have this 
study before today's hearing. Assistant Secretary Stefany said 
that. So why do we not have the study yet?
    Mr. Del Toro. I don't know why the Assistant Secretary told 
you that, sir. He may have misspoken, but certainly he did not 
consult with me in releasing that study because it hasn't been 
reviewed yet by senior leaders of the Department of Defense.
    Senator Wicker. When do you think we will have that study, 
when all of these extra steps you mentioned are done?
    Mr. Del Toro. It should be, if required, it should be 
released in the next several weeks, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Let me just say also, during the chairman's 
opening statement, he talked about the 355 ship Navy, and that 
is I think he may have mentioned it as a goal. You are aware, 
Mr. Secretary, that that is in the statute, the law of the land 
passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by the 
President of the United States. Are you aware of that?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir, I am. Okay.
    Senator Wicker. Are you guided at all by the fact that the 
statute actually says 355 ships?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir, I am guided by that. If you 
actually look at the, one of the alternatives in our 
shipbuilding plan, it actually meets the requirements of that 
statute.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. General Berger, would you elaborate 
on the update to Force Design 2030. What does it mean in 
layman's terms about the hider-finder emphasis and its ability 
to support lethality and our ability to win future fights?
    General Berger. Hider-finder, reconnaissance-
counterreconnaissance, goes by different names, but it is the 
same idea, Senator, in that if you have the lethal means to 
engage your target, hold them at risk, there is a presumption 
there you can find them. There is also a presumption that you 
can find them first and get the first round down range.
    So more and more as from satellites down to terrestrial, 
down to subterranean sensors are allowing not just great powers 
but a lot of powers to see what is going on around them. So 
winning that--when I say, when we say winning the hider-finder 
competition, it means the ability to detect, track, and conceal 
your own location or stay within a displacement cycle that 
moves you more rapidly than they can target you.
    Winning that stays in front of the adversary. Losing that 
means they can engage you, means you are held at risk. So it 
doesn't decrease the importance of lethality. Absolutely, it is 
important as it always has been.
    But more and more and more important is the realization 
that we have to have the means to detect, to track, to hold at 
risk the adversary and do it first.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, I 
don't--in six seconds, I don't have time to ask about the 
failure of the USS Sioux City and the reason for the class-wide 
failure of the ship's engineering plant. So I will see if I can 
take a second round or ask that on the record, and I yield.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Let me 
recognize Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for being here. Admiral Gilday, I enjoyed the time that 
Senator Gillibrand and I spent with you and Admiral Joyner. 
Thank you for giving us that time.
    I want to talk a little bit about Finland and Sweden for a 
moment, because we have a number of members I think that need 
to increase their level of understanding as we move into what 
will likely be an invitation from NATO, to join NATO after they 
express their desire to do so in the coming days or weeks. Just 
for our edification purposes, Finland is a Nation of 5 million 
people.
    Right now they have 62 F-18s. They have 64 F-35s on order. 
They are already spending 2 percent as a percentage of Gross 
Domestic Product (GDP) on military, and they have announced 
putting out another $2.2 billion. In Sweden, they have 80 
Gripen fourth generation, somewhere between an F-16, F-18 
capability. They are spending 1.3 as a percentage of GDP today, 
and they have expressed a commitment to getting to 2 percent by 
2028.
    We know that they embrace Western norms. They have the rule 
of law. They check all the boxes with respect to what would be 
a welcomed member of NATO. Number one, would you refute any of 
that? Number two, can you tell me a little bit about your 
relationships with your counterparts in both Sweden and Finland 
and your observations on their participation in various joint 
exercises that we have had?
    We will start with Admiral Gilday, and then, Mr. Secretary, 
you are more than welcome to opine, but I am really interested 
in the mil-to-mil relationships first and how you would assess 
their capabilities. I, for one, think they would be a net 
exporter of security if they were able to achieve accession 
into NATO. I would like to get your view on that for the 
record.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. I have a relationship with both 
heads of the navy. In terms of the Swedish CNO, she was just at 
my home last month for dinner, and so we have ongoing dialog 
with her. Both of those militaries, as you stated, are very 
capable. We like their geography as well. They are in a key 
position.
    I would also just reiterate what the Committee already 
knows and that is they both enjoy a special partnership as a 
near ally status, and so we exercise and work very, very 
closely with those militaries.
    I would characterize our ability to work together with them 
in exercises as highly interoperable, and so I see this 
transition into NATO, if it happens, as virtually seamless from 
a military perspective.
    Senator Tillis. General Berger.
    General Berger. Sir, I would, probably like the CNO and 
some others, I have trained with both countries and also from 
Kosovo to Middle East, fought with them in combat, served with 
them in units. They are phenomenal, both countries. Both are 
very focused, very dedicated, disciplined, and well-trained, 
well-led.
    Second part, I would say Finland, because of the long 
border that they have with Russia and the decades since World 
War II, have a unique insight into Russia, very valuable for 
us, just because of the length of the shared border and I would 
just call it a unique relationship that is very valuable.
    Norway just has a little short border with them, but 
Finland a long one. Third, I would say the unique relationship 
between Norway and Finland and Sweden will be hugely valuable 
to us, because Norway being a founding member of NATO, and us 
working with them for 70 years, their relationship with Finland 
and Sweden will be a tremendous benefit to the U.S. and to the 
mil to mil relationship.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. Mr. Secretary.
    Mr. Del Toro. The only thing I will add, Senator, is I 
think there is tremendous opportunities for collaboration among 
all four of those nations that were mentioned in the high North 
and in the Baltic.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. I am going to submit a lot of 
questions for the record about Fleet Readiness Center (FRC) 
East and resource requirements, things like that. Admiral 
Gilday, I appreciate your comment when we had breakfast about 
getting back down there again, and Commandant, I appreciate 
your focus on that area.
    The last thing I want to focus on is whether or not you all 
believe that Admiral Mullen's concerns about our national debt 
back in 2011, when it was just approaching $12 trillion, is 
every bit as much a threat to us today in terms of national 
security now that we are approaching $30 trillion?
    Now, he didn't state, if you read all that he spoke on and 
wrote there, it wasn't because of a dollar value, it was 
because of how disruptive that becomes with the ebbs and flows 
of investment for defense, for modernization.
    Am I correct in assuming that at least some of what is 
driving you all to rethink how we counter the threat in an 
effective way in the future is driven by the ebbs and flows and 
the lack of certainty that you get from Congress with respect 
to short and long term investments?
    Mr. Secretary, I will start with you, and then I will have 
either of the two opine as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I am always concerned about the 
Nation's deficit and the Nation's national debt as well, and 
the impact it has on the economy. Those are challenging 
economic issues that have to be well balanced among all the 
other concerns that the Nation faces. Certainly our Nation has 
faced great challenges since 2001, economic, militarily, and 
with regards to COVID as well.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, quickly. I would say that a key 
piece of that is lack of predictability and stability, and so 
not just inside the military and not just for the U.S. 
industrial base, but also what we project to our allies and 
partners and potential adversaries.
    General Berger. The CNO captured it. I think things like a 
continuing resolution hurt both internally and externally, just 
the way that Admiral Gilday highlighted. So working closely 
with this Committee to make sure we do get a budget on time in 
October, absolutely instills the confidence that we need.
    Senator Tillis. Mr. Chair, I know I have run over, and I 
try not to most of the time. I just want to say that when we, 
excuse me, we have discussions about our disappointment with 
progress on certain systems, progress on implementing certain 
strategies, that from time to time we have to look at ourselves 
and recognize that decisions we make here are a part of the 
root cause for some of the challenges that you have to deal 
with.
    Not that they are error free, but I think this is a joint--
we are jointly responsible for doing a better job and helping 
you all be more successful. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 
Thank you all for your leadership and your service. Commandant, 
you know, I was very interested in one of your responses to an 
earlier question about the enduring lessons of war and the new 
lessons, the technology changes, but some of the enduring facts 
about military strength remain. One of them has always seemed 
to me, and it is a strength of the Marine Corps, our 
noncommissioned officer (NCO) leadership.
    If what we hear and see is true about the Russian military 
right now, one of their central weaknesses has been lack of 
leadership on the ground among the equivalent of our 
noncommissioned senior leadership--not so senior, probably. For 
us, it is men and women in their 20s and early 30s who command 
units and are able to drive them in times of danger and need.
    I think that is one of the enduring facts about the Marine 
Corps that is a source of its strength for the Nation. I am 
assuming that you are focused on developing that kind of 
leadership wherever it may be, regardless of geography, race, 
religion, and gender.
    General Berger. Two thoughts to offer back to you, Senator, 
absolutely yes. I am so grateful that my predecessors, like 
General Gray and others, put the emphasis and the resources on 
the training and the education of the noncommissioned officers, 
because without that--they didn't have the tools. He and others 
focused on that 25, 30 years ago, where we are reaping the 
benefits of that now.
    The second part of that, I would say the NCO Corps itself 
is the officers have to have confidence in them and delegate to 
them without micromanaging, trust that they are going to lead, 
trust that they are going to make decisions on their own, and 
that is the way that the Marine Corps operates. That is, as you 
have captured it, that is the strength of what we do, is the 
NCO Corps.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Admiral Gilday, I know you 
made reference to earlier in response, I think, to Senator 
Rounds, the value of having a private shipyard do submarine 
maintenance work.
    I think that Electric Boat has been a source of great 
strength in terms of maintenance. The Navy has not yet awarded 
the contract for work on the Hartford, and I hope that it will 
do so fairly promptly. I understand it may be in June. Am I 
correct in that understanding?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I will get back to you in the exact 
timeline. But yes, I would just like to double down on my 
comments on how important both Electric Boat and Huntington 
Ingalls are from a repair--not only from a production 
standpoint, but from a repair standpoint. They are absolutely 
critical.

    Admiral Gilday. The Navy expects to award the USS Hartford 
(SSN-768) Engineered Overhaul (EOH) contract to Electric Boat 
in July 2022. The Navy and Electric Boat teams are in the final 
stages of negotiations, nearing settlement. Electric Boat is 
required by the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) to provide 
Certified Cost or Pricing data before Contract Award, which 
typically takes several weeks for similarly complex 
negotiations. The Navy is committed to awarding the USS 
Hartford EOH quickly upon receipt of Electric Boat's 
certification.

    Senator Blumenthal. I also want to focus on a somewhat 
arcane, but I think important, question about the unusually 
hazardous risk indemnity. This issue is complex, but again, for 
contractors, it is a very important one. I have recently voiced 
my concerns over a change in the unusually hazardous risk 
indemnity policy in an exchange with Assistant Secretary 
Stefany, last week, as a matter of fact.
    I am not going to have time and I know we are at the end of 
a lengthy hearing, but I would be interested in comments that 
you may have in writing. The Navy risks losing its private 
partners and thus its ability to build major weapons systems 
and technologies for future conflict if it fails to take 
account of the risks that they undertake by reversing a decades 
old indemnification policy to no longer cover those kinds of 
risks involving conventional weapons that rely on high energy 
propellants.
    It may seem like a technical issue, but it is one of great 
concern to the companies that manufacture these weapons, and I 
would appreciate you looking into it.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks, all of 
you, for being here. Thank you for your service. General 
Berger, I just want to start by saying that I was particularly 
pleased to see in Force Design 2030 annual update your 
continued focus on China as the Nation's pacing threat, on the 
Taiwan scenario, and your continued use of those scenarios and 
that threat to benchmark the, what the Marine Corps efforts 
are, and your strategic design.
    I think it is a bold vision which you have been doing, much 
overdue. I just want to say, I think you have done it in a very 
rigorous and thoughtful way. So I think it is a model. Keep up 
the good work.
    Mr. Secretary, if I could come to you, you said in response 
to a question a minute ago that one of the shipbuilding 
profiles, this is on a shipbuilding plan, one of the profiles 
of three of them, one of them supports the statutory 
requirement of a 335 ship Navy. Is that profile three, I 
assume?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. On the same plan, Admiral, Navy 
officials told me earlier this week and last week that profiles 
one and two of the shipbuilding plan do not meet the Navy's 
operational requirements for the pacing scenario in INDOPACOM 
with regard to Taiwan. Can you confirm that profile three would 
meet the Navy's operational requirements?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, three does a better job. The 
constraint--constraint is still faced in three is the ability 
of the industrial base to produce those for, the production 
line to actually produce those ships at pace to meet our 
requirements. So the warfighting requirements in the Navy and 
Marine Corps are what--they are best reflected in alternative 
three.
    Senator Hawley. So are you telling me, Admiral, we would 
get there in three, but we might, it might still be a push, 
even under three. Am I hearing you right?
    Admiral Gilday. We would get there with three, but that 
would require real growth in the budget.
    Senator Hawley. Let me just ask you how long it would take 
to get to the point under three where the Navy would be able to 
meet its operational requirements?
    Admiral Gilday. So with respect to 355, sir, that would be 
out in the 2040s in order to put us on that path, which I think 
is probably physically reasonable, given, again, the 
constraints of the industrial base.
    Senator Hawley. What about the operational requirements for 
the pacing scenario in INDOPACOM--that is defeating a fait 
accompli against Taiwan.
    Admiral Gilday. So capacity does give you, obviously gives 
you greater capability. Based on the way we are going to fight, 
which we believe is to be distributed, a distributed fleet 
rather than amassing forces, we would mass effects. We want--we 
need more ships of every different type.
    I am not ignoring the need for capacity but given the top 
line that we have and dealing with reality, what we are trying 
to do, Senator, is make sure that the ships that we have and 
that we are building are the most capable and high quality that 
we can field.
    Senator Hawley. I just want to say again, for the record, 
that I think it is disturbing, and this is no reflection on 
you, Admiral, but I think it is disturbing that of the three 
profiles in the shipbuilding plan, only one of them comes 
close, and you were saying even then it will be a push but 
comes close to meeting the operational requirements that the 
Navy has to deal with the pacing challenge and the pacing 
theater.
    I mean, if that is not a wakeup call to this Committee, I 
don't know what is. Let me ask you about the danger of 
simultaneous conflicts, Admiral, in multiple theaters. So what 
would happen if the Navy--well, let me ask it this way. What 
would the impact be on the Navy's ability to meet its 
operational requirements in EUCOM if we had to withhold Navy 
forces from Europe in order to deter Chinese aggression in 
INDOPACOM?
    Admiral Gilday. I think we would be challenged. We would 
have to take a look at how you squeeze the most are the Joint 
Forces have and use it in the best possible way. But I think we 
would be challenged. You know, right now, the force is not 
sized to handle two simultaneous conflicts. It is sized to 
fight one and to keep a second adversary in check. But in terms 
of a two--two all-out conflicts, we are not sized for that.
    Senator Hawley. Can you give us a sense of what kind of 
capabilities that the Navy provides that would be in high 
demand, are in high demand in both EUCOM and PACOM?
    Admiral Gilday. First of all, submarines. I think secondly 
would be carrier air. Third would be amphibious ships, and then 
you need destroyers with multiple weapons in order to protect 
those assets. So across the board, you need more of everything.
    Senator Hawley. Yes. Thinking about the constraints that we 
would face in either theater, but particularly in EUCOM, what 
are some of the capabilities you would say that the Navy is 
currently providing in Europe that maybe our allies in that 
region could be doing more to provide on their own, should we 
need them in PACOM or elsewhere?
    Admiral Gilday. I think submarines are a key capability in 
any fight, and so that would be one message I would give to 
Europe to invest more heavily in those kinds of platforms.
    Senator Hawley. Yes. Thank you. In my few remaining seconds 
here, Mr. Secretary, let me ask you about an interesting 
article I read from former Undersecretary of the Navy, Robert 
Work, who recently said, I want to make sure I get this right, 
he is talking about forward presence, and he said, over time, 
an emphasis on forward presence could lead to a decline in 
warfighting readiness with potentially dire results.
    Do you agree with the Former Secretary that the presence 
operations can trade off with proficiencies that are critical 
to combat?
    Mr. Del Toro. I don't agree with his assessment that we 
need less forward presence. I think we need greater access to 
bases and logistics, bases in particular across the globe, 
wherever we can find them.
    Senator Hawley. Let me just--last question here, Mr. 
Chairman. I will finish with this. Let me ask if you agree with 
this statement. This is Work again. The Navy's warfighting 
materiel readiness should no longer be sacrificed on the altar 
of forward presence and the Navy should no longer confuse that 
with winning a war. Do you think that that is right, wrong, 
oversimplified?
    Mr. Del Toro. I don't think we have sacrificed our wartime 
capabilities in exchange for presence. I think the two go 
together. I think what we need is the right capacity, the right 
capabilities to deliver the right lethality. That also demands 
access to those logistical bases throughout the globe, working 
with our partners and allies.
    Senator Hawley. I am not so sure about that, but we will 
follow up. Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. We have concluded 
the first round. Members have requested a second round. We will 
have a classified session in SVC-217.
    I will recognize Senator King first and then go to the 
other side. I would ask you to keep your questions concise and 
necessary for this open session, because you will have another 
opportunity to talk to these gentlemen in a closed session. 
Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Just several quick points. Number one, I want 
to associate myself with Senator Hirono's comments about the 15 
ship multi-year for destroyers. I know there is some discussion 
about whether the industrial base has the capacity to meet 
that. I think there is a bit of a circular argument.
    My experience, working with Bath Iron Works is you give 
them the signal and they can meet it. If they don't get the 
signal of the longer term multi-year, then it makes it less 
likely that they will meet it.
    So I don't think there should be a constraint. I think 
everyone realizes from this discussion that, number one, multi-
years are better for the taxpayers, they are better for the 
industrial base, and a longer multi-year sends a strong signal 
to the industrial base that the business will be there. They 
can make the investments and meet that requirement. That is 
number one.
    Number two, on the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, we have been 
talking a lot about readiness, and I want to thank you for the 
investment that the budget makes in completing or at least 
moving forward the capital improvements at the shipyard.
    Already with that new dry dock, Mr. Secretary, as you and I 
saw, the USS Cheyenne is in that dry dock successfully. So the 
next step, of course, is to double the capacity of that dry 
dock. But I want to mention a sort of a side issue, in talking 
to the people of the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, they are 
talking about all the investments in the infrastructure, that 
is really important. But they also have investments in the 
people.
    Every worker, every business in America is short of 
workers. They told me that the way to attract additional 
workers to Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is childcare and parking, 
and, you know, you don't really think about parking as a naval 
function. But if we want good people, and they are competing 
for the best in the region, we have got to think about those 
kind of quality of life things, and that we were talking a lot 
today about new requirements of younger workers.
    Those are the two things that have been brought to my 
attention. So I wanted to mention those to you as you think 
about the investment in the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. Finally, 
Mr. Secretary, you have indicated in an excellent report about 
the collaboration and joint development that is going on 
between Huntington Ingalls, Bath Iron Works, and the Navy on 
the new DDG(X).
    I want to commend you for that report, and just, if you 
could just state for the record, why it is important in the 
development of this new platform, because where we have had 
problems in the past is on new platforms. This is a case where 
I think we are moving down a very beneficial path. If you would 
just state for the record your conclusions on that subject.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, Senator. Obviously, given the power 
constraints on our current classes of DDG Flight IIs and Flight 
IIIs due to the size of the whole DDG(X), or sort of that next 
transition to new technologies that will take us above and 
beyond, such as the utilization of laser systems, is one 
example. It is important to have that transition. As we stated 
earlier today, is also important to ensure that the 
technologies that are going to go on that platform are mature, 
well understood technologies that work so that we don't make 
the mistakes of the past.
    Finally, I would argue that we also need to ensure that 
DDG(X)'s, the concept of operations for its employment is well 
thought out, so that we could also integrate the autonomous or 
semi-autonomous technologies that we look forward to 
integrating well into the future as well.
    Senator King. In order to do that successfully, working 
with the yards to be sure that what we design and set for 
requirements can be built, I think, is an important part of 
that process. Do you agree?
    Mr. Del Toro. It is, Senator.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Wicker is 
recognized, and I, just for the benefit of everyone, I am going 
to enforce the five minute rule. I don't do it usually.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Very good, and I think we can do this 
in less than 5 minutes. Secretary Del Toro, just last Friday, 
it was reported that the USS Sioux City would be headed to the 
Arabian Gulf. It has been spending time in the Mediterranean. 
This is a Freedom variant LCS ship. The Navy has announced it 
will decommission a total of 24 battle force ships, including 
the first 10 Freedom variant LCSs.
    The Sioux City is reportedly going to be decommissioned 
only 4\1/2\ years after it was commissioned, and in part due to 
a class-wide failure in the ship's engineering plant. So I want 
to ask this, how many ships have this class wide failure in the 
ship's engineering plant?
    If the failure is that serious, why is it capable of being 
sent to the Arabian Gulf for serious duty? Either it is not 
reliable and not capable, or it is capable enough to send it--
to be sent into harm's way. Then we will leave time for Admiral 
Gilday to help answer that question also.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. It is my understanding that the USS 
Sioux City being of the Freedom variant with the Anti-Sub 
Warfare (ASW) module on it, and that is particularly the reason 
why it is going to be decommissioned. As to the class-wide 
failure, there are operational restrictions that were put on 
the utilization of the ships in general, which keeps them safe 
to operate, but not in their most extreme fashion. Perhaps I 
could ask the CNO to further elaborate on that.
    Admiral Gilday. Secretary is right, sir. We have operating 
limitations on those ships based on a known problem in the 
engineering plant that needs to be replaced. Over time, you 
know, we are replacing the combining--it is called the 
combining gear. It gives you more flexibility with your 
engineering plant configuration and allows you--it allows you 
to operate at high speeds.
    To your point, we believe the risk is--we can mitigate the 
risk using that vessel forward, given the operating constraints 
that we have identified and the guidance that we have given to 
the commanding officers. So we have trained that ship for 
combat and sending her forward to be able to provide the 
capability needed by the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) 
Commander.
    Senator Wicker. Is the failure in, Admiral, is the failure 
in the engineering plant the same in all of these ships--in all 
of this class?
    Admiral Gilday. No, sir. Just in the Freedom--just in the 
Freedom variant.
    Senator Wicker. How many of those are there?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, there are about between 15 and 20.
    Senator Wicker. So the failure is the same in those 15 or 
20?
    Admiral Gilday. The fix needs to occur in those 15 or 20. 
But one of the proposals is to decommission nine, right, and so 
as the Secretary mentioned, it is not just the combining gear, 
but also we were making an investment in an anti-submarine 
warfare module for that ship that is technically has not met 
its requirements. It is incapable, in other words----
    Senator Wicker. What about the others that are going to 
be--that are going to not be decommissioned?
    Admiral Gilday. So 15 of those will have a mine 
countermeasures module. That particular capability is on track 
to reach Initial Operational Capability (IOC) this year. Those 
15 ships are going to be required to replace our existing 
minesweepers that operate out of both the coast of Japan and 
Bahrain. Additionally, there are six LCS that we would have the 
existing anti-surface module on those ships, and that is a 
proven capability that went IOC 3 years ago.
    Senator Wicker. Mr. Chairman, I yield back 49 seconds.
    Chairman Reed. We appreciate it, and that is the challenge 
for our other colleagues. Senator Sullivan, you are recognized.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Berger, 
you mentioned that the rate of divestiture and the rate of new 
combat capability development pose a risk, and you have got to 
manage that risk.
    One of your assumptions on the overall Force Design was 
flat budgets, that you had to make these difficult choices. 
Unfortunately, I think you are seeing that that is actually 
true. If you actually had a more robust budget, it would help 
mitigate some of the risk in modernization, wouldn't it, 
General?
    General Berger. It would, absolutely. Everything on the 
unfunded priority list for us accelerates modernization. 
Correct.
    Senator Sullivan. So, Mr. Secretary, I was disappointed, 
and I have raised this with Secretary Austin and General 
Milley, we have clearly a more dangerous National Security 
situation around the world, and yet the budget that was being 
put forward by the President for the Department of the Navy, 
that is the Navy and Marine Corps combined, is a 4 percent 
increase from the enacted budget, we bolstered that.
    Again, the President put forward a weak budget last year. 
But with 8 percent inflation, that is actually a 4 percent 
inflation adjusted cut. So do you support a 4 percent inflation 
adjusted cut? The Commandant just showed that this would help 
mitigate the Force Design risks if we had a more robust budget.
    But I am concerned, very concerned, and Congress is likely 
to have to do cleanup like we did last year and significantly 
increase the budget despite the President putting forward a 
weak budget. He has done it again. So how do you support such a 
budget--4 percent inflation adjusted cuts?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I do support the President's budget 
completely. It is actually the first time in quite some time 
where we have actually proposed a budget that is greater than 
the previously enacted budget, and I applaud the President for 
doing that.
    Senator Sullivan. A 4 percent increase with 8.3 percent 
inflation is a 4 percent inflation adjusted cut, correct?
    Mr. Del Toro. So it is today. However, budgets, as you well 
know, Senator, are prepared well in advance of when they are 
executed, and inflation is always a difficult thing to predict 
in the future.
    It is part of the reason why in the President's EABO 2023 
budget, we actually also enacted 4.6 percent increase for our 
sailors and marines across the board, and a 5 percent increase 
in Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)----
    Senator Sullivan. Again, I appreciate all those, but the 
reality is even those don't keep up with inflation. But let 
me--I am going to try to keep to my five minutes. I want to 
turn to Force Design, but to you, Mr. Secretary and Admiral.
    I was struck by the Navy's documents, strategy documents, 
which my team and I read the tri-service strategy, CNO's 
navigation plan, the surface warfare competitive edge plan, and 
how they don't articulate how the Navy will support the 
survivability and sustainability of Marine Corps Stand In 
Forces and otherwise facilitate the execution of Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations (EABO).
    Those are all key parts of the Marine Corps Force Design 
strategy. So here is my question. Actually, when you look at 
the Navy documents, Stand In Forces, forces that I don't even 
think they are mentioned, they are alluded to, but much of 
these documents describe how Stand In Forces will enable the 
fleet to control the seas and reposition to conduct naval 
strikes from a myriad of different directions.
    But there is little, if anything, in these documents about 
support in the reverse. What I mean by that is the fleet 
support to enabling successful EABO or stand in forces. So, Mr. 
Secretary, maybe start with you, Admiral, a fleet commander is 
ready to help execute this part of Force Design and Stand In 
Forces to execute the EABO concept and other things, which 
would put ships at risk.
    If so, how come none of that is articulated in the Navy 
strategies that at least I have been reading thus far?
    Admiral Gilday. I would offer, sir, that you can get an 
inaccurate picture by just judging our commitment to Force 
Design based on the tri-service strategy and the navigation 
plan, and the reason I say that----
    Senator Sullivan. You do see my question though----
    Admiral Gilday. I do. But the reason I say that is because 
most of what has been written publicly about Stand In Forces 
has been produced after the production--after the release of 
both of those documents.
    Now, if you take a look at the concept of operations that 
are cosigned by both fleet commanders and Marine Expeditionary 
Force (MEF) commanders, whether it is in the Western Pacific or 
whether it is in Europe, they both rely heavily on Stand In 
Forces as part of the warfighting concept.
    I would also offer that today the Naval Commander in 
Europe, the Component Commander under General Walters, has 
marine elements, I would characterize them as EABO, EABs in 
terms of what they are doing, in terms of sensing and making 
sense of the environment, in terms of helping understand what 
effects that we can produce in theater. They are right now on 
the ground in places like Estonia, in Iceland, and in Norway.
    So I would offer, sir, that is very much alive at the fleet 
level in terms of how we are integrating with the Marine Corps. 
I will have an update to my navigation plan within the month, 
and I will take special note to make sure that I footnote Stand 
In Forces.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Sullivan--Senator Sullivan. Thank 
you very much. Senator Hawley, do you request recognition? 
Please.
    Senator Hawley. Yes, sir. Briefly. Admiral, just a question 
for you on aircraft carriers. I realize that by statute, by 
law, Navy is required to maintain at least 11 operational 
carriers, but absent that statutory requirement, my question 
is, is it the best use of the Navy's allocation to maintain 11?
    Here is where I am going with this. If you had 8 or even 
10, that would free up a lot of resources to invest in other 
capabilities that might be more effective in deterring China 
and our pacing theater. So do you have a thought on it?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. Honestly, I think 11 is a 
conservative estimate. Based on the demand signal from 
combatant Commanders now, there is no more survivable airfield 
in the world than an aircraft carrier. In terms of what it 
brings to the fight, in terms of sortie generation, in terms of 
our move now with unmanned refueling that extends the range of 
the air wing by hundreds of miles.
    My unfunded list tries to top off on domestic production of 
weapons with range and speed principally for the air wing. They 
remain, along with our submarine force, the main batteries of 
the United States Navy with respect to offensive weapons. So, 
sir, I remain very bullish on aircraft carriers, and I can't 
think of anybody out there in the Joint Force that is not.
    Senator Hawley. How survivable, though, is the carrier, 
admiral, if it is parked in the Taiwan Strait? I mean, I know 
they are survivable off the coast of Hawaii, but doesn't it 
depend on where they are?
    Admiral Gilday. So based on how we use those carriers, sir, 
we are going to put them in a place where they can be most 
effective. We also are leveraging both space and cyber in terms 
of how we position those units. I will tell you that if you 
take a look at an airfield on an island in the middle of the 
Pacific that was targeted when the lava cooled, you can move an 
aircraft carrier tomorrow, but Reagan National is going to be 
the same place that is today.
    If that were an aircraft carrier, tomorrow it would be West 
of the Mississippi and Missouri, or it could be off in 
Newfoundland, or it could be off of Key West, Florida. So we 
can move them around. That is one of the real value of naval 
forces in general.
    Senator Hawley. Fair enough. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Thank you, 
gentlemen. We will recess or adjourn the open session and let 
us attempt to reassemble at SVC-217 at 12:20 p.m. For my 
colleagues, there is a vote pending right now.
    We will vote and then we will attempt to get together again 
at 12:20 p.m. at SVC-217. Again, gentlemen, thank you for your 
testimony. The open hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:07 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                           gender integration
    1. Senator Shaheen. General Berger, reports indicate that the 
Marine Corps will need nearly $198 million over the next few years to 
upgrade facilities at its recruit depots for gender integration. Will 
these cost estimate change if you integrate boot camp at the platoon 
level versus company level? If so, what additional changes need to be 
made to integrate at the platoon level and how much more would it cost?
    General Berger. The infrastructure identified for recruit training 
depots are necessary investments in aging facilities that will ensure 
the continued success of recruit training writ large and are not 
specifically tied to gender integration efforts. Per 10 USC 8431, we 
are required to provide physically separate housing and latrine 
facilities for males and females at recruit training; regardless of the 
integration model used, recruits will sleep and conduct hygiene in 
separate squad bays as they currently do. As such, the level of 
integration (platoon vs company) is projected to have no impact on the 
estimated cost for barracks construction.

    2. Senator Shaheen. General Berger, it appears the Marine Corps is 
heading down a path to integrate boot camp at the company level, but 
leave platoons segregated by gender. Why is the Marine Corps continuing 
with plans to integrate women at the company level versus the platoon 
level?
    General Berger. We are committed to executing gender integration in 
a deliberate way and are continuously evaluating the effectiveness of 
our integration model to ensure that we are pursuing a sustainable 
solution without compromising the careers of those who train recruits 
or the top-tier training we provide at the depots. Our entry-level 
training continuum is unique in that we have a multi-phased approach 
which begins with recruit training--transforming civilians into 
marines. After recruit training, all marines undergo follow-on training 
at the School of Infantry and then Military Occupational Specialty 
Schools, all prior to arriving at their first duty station. Training 
events where males and females are integrated at the platoon level and 
below exist at every phase of this training continuum, to include 
recruit training, and become more frequent as marines progress through 
their training and into the Fleet Marine Force.

    3. Senator Shaheen. General Berger, marines historically have been 
comprised of the smallest percentage of women compared to the other 
services. According to the most recent Department of Defense (DOD) 
Annual Demographics report, just 8.9 percent of Active Duty and 4.3 
percent Reserve marines are women. What is the Marine Corps doing to 
improve its ability to recruit and retain women?
    General Berger. This year I published Talent Management 2030, a 
modernization effort, which is focused on reforming our personnel 
system to recruit and retain talent. The Marine Corps' personnel 
management system was designed in an industrial era that predates 
contemporary cultural and technological norms. We recognize that this 
system, which was built to create and maintain a young, enlisted force 
of primarily conscripts, is not adequate for the more diverse and 
highly-trained force that we employ. Talent Management 2030's focus is 
on the mission and the marines we need to complete that mission. These 
systemic changes will improve professional and personal opportunities 
for women.
    Our data shows that we retain women at similar rates to men 
overall, with a few variations at different career decision points. 
While we are still studying the factors that go into marines' decisions 
to stay in or get out of the Marine Corps, we are committed to new 
ideas to keep women in the Corps.
    Some of the example of initiatives under Talent Management 2030 
include expansion of career flexibility options, reducing strains of 
multiple permanent change of station (PCS) moves on the marine and 
their family, and data-informed and decentralized manpower management 
in order to ensure the assignment of the marine support their 
individual goals, the mission needs of the command, and the overall 
needs of the Marine Corps.
    Importantly, we are committed to better supporting marines and 
their families while maintaining our mission readiness. The Military 
Parental Leave Program (MPLP), marine parents with a new child are 
authorized paid leave that includes Maternity Convalescent Leave (MCL), 
either Primary Caregiver Leave (PCL) or Secondary Caregiver Leave 
(SCL), and annual leave. This year, we expanded SCL leave from two to 
three weeks, and we are working with the Department on the recent 
parental leave expansion authorities in the fiscal year 2022 NDAA. 
Currently, primary caregivers are authorized up to 5 months of paid 
leave (6 weeks MCL + 6 weeks PCL + 8 weeks annual leave); MCL may be 
extended as medically necessary. Secondary caregivers are authorized up 
to 2.75 months of paid leave (3 weeks SCL + 8 weeks annual leave) 
following the birth of a child.
    Additionally, we recently updated our policy regarding parenthood 
and pregnancy--notable guidelines include:
    1) Assignment: To the extent possible, pregnant marines must not be 
assigned duties that adversely affect their health
    2) Deployment: The Marine Corps allows, but does not require 
birthparents to defer operational deployments, overseas assignments, or 
any TAD/TDY away from home station for up to 12 months after the birth 
or adoption of a child.
    3) Physical Training flexibility: Effective 8 Feb 2021, a marine is 
exempt from physical fitness and body composition standards until at 
least 12 months after the date of the birth event.
    Recognizing that a marine may want to pursue an unconventional 
opportunity, stabilize their family, or stay in career-broadening 
tours, we recently implemented the statutory authority that permits 
qualifying eligible officers to ``opt out'' of promotion consideration 
without penalty. Approvals of opt out requests are based on the service 
of the requesting officer in a broadening assignment, completion of 
advanced education, completion of an assignment of significant value, 
overall performance history, and the officer's ability to meet career 
progression milestone requirements.
    The Marine Corps has offered new flexibilities in 2022 for officers 
to remove their name from consideration by the Commandant's Education 
Boards (CEB) and the Recruiting Station Commanding Officer (RSCO) 
selection boards. Historically, these boards screened eligible officers 
regardless of their desire to compete, and as a result, if selected, 
officers had to make decisions either to accept a duty that is not 
within their career or family goals or exit the Marine Corps. These 
initiatives now allow officers to have a more active voice in career 
decisions as they relate to professional, personal, and family needs 
and desires.
    Additionally, we have modified the ``pay back'' for the Career 
Intermission Program to make it more attractive for marines. In 2013, 
the Marine Corps implemented the Career Intermission Program (CIP) to 
allow marines to take a temporary break from Active Duty to meet 
personal or professional needs outside the Service. CIP currently 
allows marines to take up to 3 years-off to raise a family or pursue 
other goals with no impact to their career. This year, we reduced the 
payback requirement from, from 2:1 to 1:1, effectively lessening the 
burden on the servicemember.
    Finally, we are also continuing to refine and reduce PCS (Permanent 
Change of Station) tours in order to increase marine and family 
stability and, ultimately, retention. Since 2019, we have steadily 
increased the number of local moves known as permanent change of 
assignment (PCA) where it made sense in lieu of PCS. Last year, we had 
an all-time high of 22,000 PCA orders. The net result today is 40,000 
marines who have been at their duty station for more than 3 years. We 
will continue to seek out way to increase stability for marines and 
their families, balanced with the needs of the Marine Corps.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                            china commission
    4. Senator King. I believe we must establish an unbiased and non-
partisan commission to examine a grand strategy for our approach to 
China, similar in intent to President Eisenhower's Solarium Project. We 
need to think of a holistic approach to create a stable international 
order in which China (or Russia) cannot dictate regional developments.
    Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and General Berger, in order to 
avoid the United States trying to ``spend our way out of conflict,'' 
what are China's primary areas of influence the United States and 
allies should focus on countering that will provide the most 
significant impact?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The United States and its 
allies in the Pacific and elsewhere should focus on creating credible, 
lethal combat forces, and developing new partnerships and modes of 
fighting which complicate China's defense planning. The trilateral 
security pact between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United 
States known as AUKUS and Marine Corps Force Design 2030 are examples.
    General Berger. Increase persistent and consistent Joint Force 
presence throughout the Indo-Pacific, this presence will both assure 
allies and partners and deter People's Republic of China (PRC) actions 
by providing security cooperation exercises. Training and exercises 
will increase allies' and partners' capabilities while assuring United 
States resolve to deter significant People's Liberation Army (PLA) 
intervention. Continued forward presence also provides capabilities to 
counter PRC malign gray zone activities and provide the national 
command authority with options in the theater during crisis and 
conflict.

    5. Senator King. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and General 
Berger, what would be the greatest benefit this commission could 
deliver?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The proposed commission 
might well make important contributions to U.S. strategic thinking on 
China. The activities of the existing ``China Economic and Security 
Review Commission'' should be assessed and coordinated with the mission 
of any new ``China Commission'' created by Congress. Also a new 
Commission should incorporate the very significant amount of China-
related analysis and strategy development accomplished by the Executive 
branch in recent years.
    General Berger. An unbiased, non-partisan commission could help 
synchronize United States Government efforts across all instruments of 
national power to focus on the current and future threat posed by the 
People's Republic of China (PRC). This commission could recommend 
policies that would support the United States and allied Defense 
Industrial Base, aligning efforts across the U.S. Government to 
accelerate or moderate efforts to shore up U.S. competitive 
capabilities while avoiding triggering inadvertent escalation which 
could result in military actions.

    6. Senator King. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and General 
Berger, what would put us in the best position to avoid the U.S. and 
China from escalating conflict and careening into a war with China?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Integrated Deterrence will 
best position us to deter escalation of conflict. This approach 
combines our strengths to the greatest effect--working across 
geographic theaters and warfighting domains, employing all elements of 
national power in a mutually reinforcing fashion, and combining our 
strengths with our network of Alliances and partnerships.
    General Berger. In the short term, we must position the Joint Force 
to both assure our allies and partners of our resolve to counter 
People's Republic of China (PRC) activities. Forward presence deters 
People's Liberation Army (PLA) military intervention by forcing the PRC 
to contend with a strong United States response in its attempts to 
leverage its military to achieve its political aims.
    In the long term, we must prevent acquisition of critical 
technologies and build Western/allied supply chain resiliency while 
impeding PRC supply chains for critical supporting materials/
technologies. Resiliency thus would enable Western/allied nations to 
weather sudden economic sanctions and reduce PRC ability to weather 
sanctions. This further increases the national cost to the point that 
the benefit of military action overwhelmingly outweighs any political 
aims of the CCP.

    7. Senator King. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and General 
Berger, what are the `toughest problems' OUTSIDE of military 
imbalances?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The tyranny of distance is 
one of the greatest challenges. To address the challenge, the 
Department of Navy will strengthen relationships with Allies and 
partners and explore opportunities to further extend access through 
development of enhanced and new partnerships. Together, partnership and 
access assist in mitigating the tyranny of distance as like-minded 
nations work toward common objectives to deter or, if deterrence fails, 
defeat an adversary.
    General Berger. The current decline of the U.S. industrial base 
along with the illegal transfer of critical scientific research and 
technologies.
            united nations convention on the law of the sea
    8. Senator King. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, do you support 
the ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea 
(UNCLOS)?
    Admiral Gilday. I support U.S. accession to UNCLOS. As the world's 
foremost maritime power, U.S. security and broader national interests 
are intrinsically liked to the freedom of navigation. UNCLOS codifies 
the law in a manner beneficial to naval operations, preserving the 
freedoms of navigation and overflight, passage rights, and traditional 
uses of the sea. The United States is currently forced to rely on 
customary international law to contest activities by other countries 
that are inconsistent with the law of the sea. Accession would also 
enhance our ability to counter excessive maritime claims, land 
reclamation, and militarization efforts by China in the South China 
Sea, as well as excessive maritime claims by Russia along sea routes in 
the Arctic.
    General Berger. Yes. The United States has treated the navigation 
and overflight provisions of the Convention as customary international 
law, and acts in a manner consistent with those provisions. Accession 
would increase U.S. credibility and legitimacy when acting to protect 
the rights, freedoms, and lawful uses of the sea reflected in the 
Convention. It would give the United States a seat at the table to set 
the course for future law of the sea discussions and counter the 
excessive claims of China and Russia. The law of the sea is 
continuously being interpreted, applied, and developed. By not being a 
party, the United States is not on the inside to protect and advance 
its interests, and risks losing the Convention's benefits the longer it 
remains a non-party.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                       littoral combat ship (lcs)
    9. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, the LCS has been plagued 
with numerous technical and mechanical issues since its inception in 
2001, leading to the Navy's decision to retire nine Freedom-class 
ships. What is the estimated cost of maintaining the Freedom-class 
through its lifecycle if it is not retired?
    Secretary Del Toro. The total buyback cost for all nine Freedom-
class Littoral Combat Ships is $568 million in fiscal year 2023 and 
over $4.3 billion over the next 5 years. Within our directed budget 
topline, the Navy's Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget prioritizes 
these resources on investments with higher warfighting value for 
strategic competition.

    10. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, has the Navy estimated the 
cost of the repairs the LCS would need to complete its anti-submarine 
warfare mission?
    Secretary Del Toro. The total cost to repair and upgrade the nine 
Freedom-class Littoral Combat Ships proposed for decommissioning in 
fiscal year 2023 is $568 million in fiscal year 2023 and over $4.3 
billion over the next 5 years. In addition, the cost to reverse the 
anti-submarine warfare (ASW) mission package sundown would be an 
additional $117 million in fiscal year 2023 and $489 million over the 
next 5 years. With the forthcoming introduction of FFG 62 as a capable 
ASW platform, these resources are better prioritized on investments 
with higher warfighting value for strategic competition within our 
directed budget topline.

    11. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday, you testified before the House 
Armed Services Committee that the Navy ``[hasn't] had the best track 
record of procurement'' and cited the LCS class as an example. What 
lessons does the Navy hope to learn from the failures of the Freedom-
class?
    Admiral Gilday. I would say the LCS program taught us to approach 
our new programs with an ``evolutionary, vice revolutionary'' mindset 
and deliberate risk reduction. Starting with requirements for FFG-62 
and DDG(X) the Navy has established ``informed'' requirements through a 
collaborative process including Acquisition Professionals, Naval 
Architects, Fleet, Industry and cost estimators. This enables us to 
establish requirements across cost, schedule, and performance that can 
be achieved with confidence. The Navy has initiated a renewed focus on 
utilizing non-developmental technologies and existing proven Program of 
Record combat system elements to reduce execution risk, provide 
required capabilities and leverage existing training and spare parts 
through increasing commonality. A prime example is the new FFG-62 
class, which required use of a proven parent design, non-developmental 
technologies, and will be outfitted proven Navy Program of Record 
combat system elements like AEGIS combat system, SPY-6 variant radar, 
MK-41 VLS as well as common C4I and Electronic Warfare capabilities. 
Additionally, this evolutionary approach will be realized on DDG(X) by 
using the proven DDG Flight III Combat System while evolving the hull 
and power systems. In parallel with design efforts and prior to ship 
activation the engineering plants and hull forms will be tested at 
land-based test sites which also significantly buys down integration 
risk prior to test and activation in new ship construction. Use of 
land-based test sites is being implemented for both FFG and DDG(X).
    We are also reinforcing the Fleet Integration Team (FIT) effort, to 
ensure the necessary support; whether it's training, supply support, or 
tech manuals, is in place for ship delivery so sailors have the tools 
and resources necessary to succeed from the first day new platforms 
enter service. These structures were not fully enacted when LCS entered 
service and it took significant effort to get the resources the fleet 
needed to operate and maintain the ships. FFG-62 is planning to have 
full supply system support in place at time of delivery.

    12. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, you testified before the 
House Armed Services Committee that ``if the Congress approves to 
divest some of these ships, particularly the LCSs, I think those are 
very strategic opportunities to move some of those ships to our allies 
and partners.'' Does the Navy have any plans to recoup any portion of 
the cost of the LCS through the sale of these ships?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Navy plans to place the ships in an 
inactive status.

    13. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, if any of those LCS are 
sold, how much does the Navy estimate it will be able to recoup?
    Secretary Del Toro. The price for sale of a single decommissioned 
ship to a non-grant eligible country would be roughly fifty percent of 
the acquisition cost, depending on material condition and other 
factors.
             sea-launched cruise missile--nuclear (slcm-n)
    14. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, do you believe that there 
is a significant enough gap in the United States' existing nuclear 
arsenal lacks that warrants further investment into the SLCM-N at the 
expense of investment in conventional Navy capabilities?
    Secretary Del Toro. No, the Department of the Navy eliminated SLCM-
N research and development funding as part of the President's Budget 
2023. The Department will continue to evaluate nuclear deterrence 
requirements and needs to ensure naval capability investments, 
including conventional requirements, support implementation of National 
Defense Strategy priorities.

    15. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, if the budget stays 
relatively flat, what conventional Navy capabilities will need to be 
reduced in order to support SLCM-N?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy eliminated funding 
for research and development for a SLCM-N in fiscal year 2023, which 
eliminated the need to conduct tradeoff analysis to support SLCM-N.

    16. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, what analysis has the Navy 
done on how its broader conventional goals may be impacted by 
investment in the SLCM-N?
    Secretary Del Toro. An impact analysis of SLCM-N investments was 
not conducted by the Department of the Navy, as funding for SLCM-N was 
eliminated during the Analysis of Alternatives phase and prior to 
developing the Concept of Operations.

    17. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, do you believe that the 
SLCM-N will serve as a deterrent to either Russia, China, or other 
potential adversary that would prevent aggression against U.S. allies 
or the expansion of their own nuclear arsenals?
    Secretary Del Toro. No, funding for SLCM-N was eliminated in fiscal 
year 2023. Nuclear capabilities are a critical component of integrated 
deterrence and the sea-based leg of the nuclear triad is essential to 
complicating adversary decision calculus and diminishing any perceived 
benefits of aggression.

    18. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, the Navy has a goal of 
expanding its fleet to 355 ships by 2043. Does the Navy believe this 
goal is achievable on this timeframe if it is simultaneously developing 
a missile that you and other senior DOD officials have suggested is 
redundant?
    Secretary Del Toro. Based on the Navy's analysis in Alternative 3 
of the fiscal year 2023 Shipbuilding Plan, expanding to 355 ships by 
2043 is achievable with significant additional resources to procure, 
operate, and sustain this increased fleet size. Under any topline, the 
Navy carefully balances readiness, capability, and capacity. The 
resources required to grow capacity would be in addition to the 
resources needed to support readiness and modernization requirements to 
defend and advance national policy in accordance with the national 
defense strategy.

    19. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, if the Virginia-class 
submarines were outfitted with SLCM-N what impact would that have on 
their basing?
    Secretary Del Toro. Research and development funding for SLCM-N was 
eliminated in fiscal year 2023; therefore, the impact of outfitting 
Virginia-class submarines with SLCM-N was not assessed.

    20. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, would they still be 
stationed in Groton and Norfolk?
    Secretary Del Toro. Research and development funding for SLCM-N was 
eliminated in fiscal year 2023 prior to the development of a concept of 
operations; therefore, stationing considerations were not reviewed.

    21. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, if so, would new 
arrangements need to be made to account for a nuclear payload?
    Secretary Del Toro. Research and development funding for SLCM-N was 
eliminated in fiscal year 2023 prior to the development of a concept of 
operations; therefore, the Department of the Navy did not review the 
need for potential new arrangements.

    22. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, has the Navy done any 
analysis of how outfitting the Virginia-class may impact basing in 
allied ports abroad given several countries have banned port calls from 
ships carrying nuclear weapons?
    Secretary Del Toro. Research and development funding for SLCM-N was 
eliminated in fiscal year 2023 prior to the development of a concept of 
operations; therefore, a detailed analysis of where, how often, and 
which ships it would be deployed on had not been conducted. It is 
longstanding U.S. policy to neither confirm nor deny the presence or 
absence of nuclear weapons aboard warships or on aircraft; the five 
Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zones (NWFZs) around the globe contribute to the 
Department's strategic calculus when determining global force posture.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                          littoral combat ship
    23. Senator Wicker. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, the LCS 
mine countermeasure (MCM) warfare package should reach initial 
operational capability this year. The four existing MCM vessels 
stationed in Bahrain are scheduled to be decommissioned in 2025, and 
the four MCM vessels in Sasebo are scheduled to be decommissioned in 
2027. Will the LCS will be ready to replace existing MCM vessels, or 
will there be a capability gap in 5th Fleet or 7th Fleet?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. No, there will not be an 
Mine Countermeasure (MCM) capability gap in 5th Fleet or 7th Fleet. The 
Littoral Combat Ship MCM Mission Package will have four mission 
packages ready to deploy to 5th Fleet by the end of 2024 and an 
additional four MCM MP ready to deploy to 7th Fleet by the end of 2027. 
This schedule will allow the MCM-1 Avenger-class vessels in both 5th 
and 7th Fleet to be decommissioned as scheduled in 2025 and 2027, 
respectively.

    24. Senator Wicker. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, what has 
the Navy done to ensure that Bahrain and Sasebo have the necessary 
support infrastructure to facilitate the arrival and presence of LCS?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Sasebo and Bahrain are both 
supportable ports for LCS.

    1.  Sasebo: Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) has been using Sasebo for 7 
years.
        a.  First LCS port visit: USS Forth Worth-2015
        b.  Last LCS port visit: USS Charleston-May 2022
        c.  No additional facilities are required to support LCS 
missions out of Sasebo.

    2.  Bahrain
        a.  At NSA Bahrain, Navy has constructed a multi-story 
maintenance/administration building. The facility provides 
administrative, industrial and management support spaces, marine 
maintenance and shop areas, operational storage including limited 
hazmat storage, and a LCS Mission Module Readiness Center (MMRC) and 
single story high-bay warehouse/operational storage facility 
foundation. The MMRC provides dedicated storage and pre-staging for 
double-stacked twenty-foot equivalent units, Operations/Installation 
maintenance and Mission Package support. A separate exterior covered 
and uncovered staging and lay down areas includes converters for 
special power, 28 VDC, 400 Hertz electrical power as well as 60 Hertz 
power (shore power in Bahrain is 50 Hertz) as well as a passenger/
freight elevator and high bay bridge crane.
        b.  Pier, wharves, and utilities support LCS and other various 
class ships whether transitory or homeported.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                                 slcm-n
    25. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, is it your best military advice 
to continue developing the Nuclear Sea-Launched Cruise Missile?
    Admiral Gilday. The long lead time for modern weapon system 
development requires us to anticipate and invest for a degree of 
uncertainty in the future. Waiting until we need a capability is too 
late to invest and SLCM-N would fill anticipated future deterrence 
gaps. It is worth continued investment for development and technology 
maturation, building a capability we could scale when needed. However, 
to continue that effort, Navy would require topline relief in order to 
also afford today's operational tasking, sustainment, and 
modernization.

    26. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, would you agree that a partial 
investment in a capability such as the Nuclear Sea Launched Cruise 
Missile, which requires long development schedules, makes those 
programs take even longer?
    Admiral Gilday. The long lead time for modern weapon system 
development requires us to anticipate and invest for a degree of 
uncertainty in the future. Waiting until we need a capability is too 
late to invest and SLCM-N would fill anticipated future deterrence 
gaps. It is worth continued investment for development and technology 
maturation, building a capability we could scale when needed. However, 
to continue that effort, Navy would require topline relief in order to 
also afford today's operational tasking, sustainment, and 
modernization.
                          divestment of ea-18g
    27. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, on average, how many flight 
hours remain on the EA-18G aircraft you propose to divest?
    Admiral Gilday. The average flight hours remaining on EA-18G 
aircraft in operational squadrons is 4,361 out of the current 7,500 
flight-hour limit.

    28. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, the Navy hosts the only 
dedicated stand-in electronic attack platform in the joint force. How 
would the joint force fill the capability gap if these aircraft were 
divested?
    Admiral Gilday. The Joint Staff is conducting an assessment on 
Joint force Airborne Electronic Attack (AEA) capabilities within each 
service to fulfill COCOM identified mission sets in the high-end fight. 
The assessment will identify all available Joint AEA capabilities and 
evaluate risk to force and risk to mission in the absence of 
Expeditionary EA-18Gs. The assessment will help inform the Joint Staff 
on future courses of action for AEA capability and capacity for each 
service.

    29. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, did the Navy investigate 
transferring these aircraft to carrier-based squadrons rather than 
divestiture?
    Admiral Gilday. The divestment of Growler squadrons is proposed to 
occur in fiscal year 2024--there is no action or savings in fiscal year 
2023. Navy continues to assess all of our warfighting requirements 
based on the changing security environment and 2022 National Defense 
Strategy. We are currently re-assessing our requirements for airborne 
electronic attack capability and capacity--this work is ongoing and no 
decision has been made yet. If this divestment is included in the 
fiscal year 2024 President's Budget, then Navy will consider 
transferring the aircraft to carrier-based squadrons rather than 
divestiture.

    30. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, without going into classified 
details, are there current operational plans that might be affected by 
the divestment of these aircraft?
    Admiral Gilday. The Joint Staff and Combatant Commanders are 
conducting an assessment on the impact to operational plans without the 
expeditionary Airborne Electronic Attack capability.
                             fleet training
    31. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, I'm pleased to see the 
improvements in training with the Fleet Battle Problems reintroduction. 
Could you clarify, are submarines involved in these exercises?
    Admiral Gilday. Our submarines participate in the Fleet Battle 
Problem series of exercises. To support the recent exercise objectives, 
submarines have acted as opposing hostile forces to exercise and test 
our fleets' anti-submarine warfare capabilities, including advanced 
capabilities introduced in the inaugural unmanned battle problem hosted 
by 3rd Fleet in 2021. Previous fleet battle problems exercised our 
submarines' integration with the fleets in a friendly force role, 
executing multi-domain fires.

    32. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, do submariners have 
opportunities to train in large exercises the way naval aviators do at 
exercises such as RED FLAG or TOP GUN's Integrated and Advanced 
Training Phases?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, submarines have long participated in large 
scale exercises, and those exercises continually adapt to changing 
operational conditions and are increasingly more inclusive of our 
allies as outlined in our National Defense Strategy. These include:

    1.  The DYNAMIC series of exercises that test and train warfighting 
interoperability with NATO.

    2.  The BLACK WIDOW series of exercises that brings together Navy 
aircraft, surface ships, and submarines to rehearse our unique undersea 
warfare capabilities in a high-end warfighting environment.
    Each submarine is also tested in a Combat Readiness Evaluation. 
However, in terms of RED FLAG and TOP GUN, the enduring crown jewel of 
combat training for our boats and crews is the Submarine Command 
Course. No other navy's submarine force can match the scale of the 
operational planning, execution, and logistics required to safely and 
successfully engage in this at-sea crucible training, and we do this 
four times a year. While this course focuses on prospective submarine 
Commanding and Executive Officers, it's notable that three to four 
boats and crews, including ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs), 
support each class, and those boats get to fire an entire torpedo room 
full of exercise weapons in scenarios called ``Mini-Wars'', opposed by 
anti-submarine warfare capable surface action groups, fixed and rotary-
wing aircraft, and other U.S. nuclear and allied non-nuclear 
submarines. The Mini-Wars occur on 3-dimensional instrumented ranges in 
the Atlantic and Pacific, tracking every participant and weapon from 
space to the seabed, leaving no doubt as to weapons placement and 
effectiveness. Each course also includes specified tactical development 
objectives for the participating warfare communities, so the course 
provides a steady forcing function to improve the state of the practice 
for maritime warfighting.

    33. Senator Cotton. Admiral Gilday, aside from Live, Virtual, and 
Constructive models, what is the Navy's strategy to develop or invest 
in full spectrum maritime training facilities which focus on proving 
the concepts of Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO), subsea 
and seabed warfare, special operations forces, and aviation forces 
integrating and operating in the near-shore or in contested littorals?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy continues to recognize the critical role force 
training provides in every environment we operate in, including the 
littorals. Our investments across the PESTONI (Personnel, Equipment, 
Supply, Training, Networks, and Installations) pillars capture fleet 
integrated priorities and evaluate requirements through the Fleet 
Training Wholeness process that best support force generation while 
developing realistic open air and learning center training environments 
so our sailors are prepared to prevail against current and emergent 
threats.
    We continue to modernize our ranges and learning center simulators 
supporting surface, undersea, aviation, and SEAL exercises in Fleet 
concentration areas and open air ranges such as the Pacific Missile 
Range Facility (PMRF), Southern California Tactical Training Range 
Complex (SCTTR), and the Fallon Range Training Complex (FRTC), among 
others. Recent investments include upgrades to Navigation, Engineering, 
and Combat Systems training facilities for surface ships and undersea 
warfare facility trainers as well as recapitalization of the 
instrumented undersea warfare training ranges (Barking Sands Tactical 
Underwater Range (BARSTUR) and Barking Sands Underwater Range Expansion 
(BSURE), Southern California Offshore (SCORE) Deep Water Range, and 
Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center (AUTEC) while continuing 
to developing robust synthetic and LVC capabilities to prevail against 
our strategic competitors.
    Our investments in the Undersea Warfare Training Range (USWTR) 
Program includes $47.98 million dollars in fiscal year 2023 and $448.56 
million across the FYDP to recapitalize the BARSTUR/BSURE deep water 
ranges, SCORE deep water range and install shallow water training 
ranges in vicinity of Tanner Bank and San Clemente Island to provide an 
instrumented undersea training environment. AUTEC recapitalization 
includes $26.7 million dollars in fiscal year 2023 and $44.6 million 
across the FYDP.
    The Navy is pursuing the Fallon Range Training Complex 
Modernization which supports all advanced aviation training and SEAL 
ground mobility training. This modernization effort, submitted as an 
fiscal year 2023 Legislative Proposal, requests additional withdrawal 
of both federal and private land to increase the FRTC foot print by 
approximately 828,000 acres to support the increased standoff distance 
required for new weapons systems and provide a realistic tactical 
training environment. If the legislative proposal is approved, Navy 
requested $48.3 million for MILCON P-445, Fallon Range Training Complex 
Land Acquisition Phase II as a CNO Unfunded Priority List item. 
Additionally, the Navy has invested $332.5 million in the Naval 
Aviation Warfighting Development Center (NAWDC) Integrated Training 
Facility (ITF) at Naval Air Station Fallon. At initial operational 
capability (IOC) in December 2022, the ITF will facilitate fully 
informed, synthetic Carrier Air Wing integrated training for F/A-18E/F, 
EA-18G, E-2D, and Aegis operators.
                  over-classification of capabilities
    34. Senator Cotton. Secretary Del Toro, I've heard horror stories 
of the huge amount of time and effort spent on an outdated security 
architecture regarding Special Access Programs. Specifically, despite 
the existence of an online database of accessed individuals, sailors 
and marines must ask their security managers to email visit 
certificates for temporary duty assignments as if we're still using 
secure fax machines. What are you doing to address the wasted time and 
energy spent on this bureaucracy to allow our sailors and marines to 
focus on warfighting?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy, in coordination 
with our fellow Services and the Department of Defense, continue to 
evaluate ways to remove cumbersome work practices such as what you 
highlighted. Our goal and current practice is to leverage digital tools 
to meet our enduring requirements. These tools support managing access 
to our most classified capabilities in an agile and flexible manner.

    35. Senator Cotton. Secretary Del Toro, the Department of the Navy 
maintains a robust portfolio of Special Access Programs. When is the 
last time a Secretary of the Navy has directed a review of those 
programs to determine if they should remain classified as Special 
Access Required?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy is organized to 
ensure our Fleet is proficient at using our most highly classified 
capabilities. For instance, the Department of the Navy has a single 
accountable official responsible to me for developing, delivering, and 
protecting our Special Access Program capabilities. He does so as a 
member of both the Navy staff and my SECNAV staff to ensure we have the 
proper requirements, resourcing, and security for these capabilities 
from cradle to grave. In executing these authorities, he ensures our 
Fleet has the personnel accesses, the physical spaces, and information 
technology capabilities to develop tactics, techniques, and procedures, 
and then routinely operate and exercise with these capabilities so that 
our sailors and marines can fight and win on demand. I have designated 
my Under Secretary to provide oversight of these capabilities on an 
annual basis to ensure we are protecting only those capabilities which 
merit enhanced security protections and to ensure that our Fleet is 
proficient at using those capabilities we must protect at the enhanced 
security level.
    The Department annually validates the continued need for each 
Special Access Program, considering key risk factors when making these 
evaluations. Upon determination that a security change is warranted, a 
plan is developed to implement the desired outcome. These annual 
reviews are necessary to ensure we are not over-protecting 
technologies, thus artificially constraining employment in the Fleet.
    Additionally, Alternative Compensatory Control Measures (ACCMs) for 
the Department of the Navy follow strict adherence to guidance 
published by Department of Defense Manual for ACCMs.

    36. Senator Cotton. Secretary Del Toro, if the National Defense 
Strategy relies on integrated deterrence, what steps are you taking to 
ensure security barriers such as Special Access Programs or Additional 
Compensatory Control Measures within the Department of the Navy don't 
hinder operational and tactical integration at echelons lower than 
headquarters?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy is organized to 
ensure our Fleet is proficient at using our most highly classified 
capabilities. For instance, the Department of the Navy has a single 
accountable official responsible to me for developing, delivering, and 
protecting our Special Access Program capabilities. He does so as a 
member of both the Navy staff and my SECNAV staff to ensure we have the 
proper requirements, resourcing, and security for these capabilities 
from cradle to grave. In executing these authorities, he ensures our 
Fleet has the personnel accesses, the physical spaces, and information 
technology capabilities to develop tactics, techniques, and procedures, 
and then routinely operate and exercise with these capabilities so that 
our sailors and marines can fight and win on demand. I have designated 
my Under Secretary to provide oversight of these capabilities on an 
annual basis to ensure we are protecting only those capabilities which 
merit enhanced security protections and to ensure that our Fleet is 
proficient at using those capabilities we must protect at the enhanced 
security level.
    The Department annually validates the continued need for each 
Special Access Program, considering key risk factors when making these 
evaluations. Upon determination that a security change is warranted, a 
plan is developed to implement the desired outcome. These annual 
reviews are necessary to ensure we are not over-protecting 
technologies, thus artificially constraining employment in the Fleet.
    Additionally, Alternative Compensatory Control Measures (ACCMs) for 
the Department of the Navy follow strict adherence to guidance 
published by Department of Defense Manual for ACCMs.
mental health for marines at hamid karzai international airport (hkia) 
                               in august
    37. Senator Cotton. General Berger, I know there are many 
counseling and mental-health resources readily available to support our 
troops, but do you know what support has been specifically provided to 
the members of the Marine Corps involved at the Kabul airport gates 
last August?
    General Berger. Within days of receiving 24th MEU's orders to 
support the retrograde from Hamid Karzai International Airport, the 
Commanding General of II Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) engaged with 
the Force Chaplain and the Force Surgeon to form a Religious Ministry 
and Behavioral Health Support Team to surge in support of this mission.
    This team consisted of the Deputy Force Chaplain, two Operational 
Stress Control and Readiness (OSCAR) Providers, a Religious Program 
Specialist, and two Behavioral Health Technicians.
    Upon reaching the retrograde site in Kuwait, this team provided 
Warrior Transition, mental health counseling and behavioral health 
counseling to the retrograding units. This support consisted of stress 
management, grief, anger and alcohol, moral injury, and group 
counseling.
    Providing Warrior Transition and Decompression in a forward setting 
was critical to helping our marines process their grief and begin the 
process of recovery. Individuals were assigned an elevated risk in the 
Command Individual Risk and Resiliency Assessment System (CIRRAS) in an 
effort to continue to keep faith with affected marines and sailors.
    Upon return to their home station, our marines received a follow-up 
round of Warrior Transition (``Warrior Transition II'') consisting of 
one-on-one counseling and appropriate referrals to higher echelons of 
care. We continue to support our marines and their families with 
additional care.

    38. Senator Cotton. General Berger, have you followed up with the 
marines who served at HKIA in August to see how they've been coping 
since their return?
    General Berger. I attended the memorial services for both 2d 
Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment and II Marine Expeditionary Force, where 
the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps and I personally engaged with 
marines returning from Afghanistan. Since then, we have visited the 
marines at 5th Marine Expeditionary Brigade in Bahrain and have held 
town halls attended by marines who were deployed in support of this 
operation. I am also in regular contact with the MEF Commanders leading 
these marines and sailors; they keep me apprised of anything concerning 
to them. More important than visits from me, our Service is providing 
these marines the professional resources and support they need to 
grieve, cope, and prepare themselves for continued service.

    39. Senator Cotton. General Berger, will you commit to working with 
me on this issue moving forward?
    General Berger. Absolutely. I am fully committed to health and 
well-being of all marines, particularly those who most need our 
assistance after answering the Nation's call. I've reminded commanders 
and staff that the health and well-being of these marines is a priority 
and to ensure they are getting the assistance they need.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                      fleet readiness center--east
    40. Senator Tillis. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, the 
Fleet Readiness Center East (FRC-East) aboard Marine Corps Air Station 
provides depot level service and repair to multiple airframes across 
the Department of Defense. Last year, we talked about how FRC-East has 
been relegated to operating out of 1950s-era hangars and buildings that 
lack the necessary infrastructure and space. FRC-East supports 4,000+ 
well-paying jobs in eastern North Carolina, not to mention significant 
support to marine aviation. While the Department of the Navy continues 
to invest in modern aircraft, it seems to fail to recognize the need 
for maintenance facilities such as this. Can you provide an update on 
any plans you have to improve FRC-East's infrastructure?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy 
has developed a depot infrastructure modernization and optimization 
plan to ensure that the Navy and Marine Corps aviation sustainment 
system meets the needs of the current and future force with the ability 
to surge in the event of a major conflict.
    On April 29, 2022, the Navy submitted a 5-year plan to the 
Subcommittee on Readiness, Committee on Armed Services, which outlines 
the near-term infrastructure efforts at the three aviation depots. The 
plan integrates all infrastructure and industrial plant equipment 
investments to improve Navy maintenance capabilities by expanding depot 
capacity and optimizing depot configuration. At Fleet Readiness Center 
East, the Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget requests MILCON funding 
for an H-53K Gearbox Repair and Test facility ($38.4 million) and had 
funds programmed to construct an F-35 Aircraft Sustainment Center in 
fiscal year 2025 ($217.4 million). In addition to these infrastructure 
projects, ongoing investments began in fiscal year 2021 to address 
aging, inefficient, and unreliable industrial equipment to include 
advanced technology.
    The DON is evaluating additional opportunities to maximize our 
depot capacity, reduce cost of ownership, and foster cooperation with 
private industry in accordance with all applicable laws and DoD 
guidance. This includes potential partnership opportunities with the 
State of North Carolina to support Navy and Marine Corps Aviation both 
now and into the future.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
             rate of divestiture to capability development
    41. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, to execute Force Design 2030 
you have pursued a divest-to-invest strategy, aimed at generating 
savings internally to use for modernization efforts. I commend you for 
this bold and urgent approach to address the threats identified in the 
2018 National Defense Strategy. I am concerned about the rate of 
divestiture compared to the rate new capabilities are being fielded. 
There is much discussion within the Senate, the DOD, and outside 
experts that the 2020s may be the most dangerous period in United 
States-China relations because we have only belatedly begin a military 
modernization process designed to deter and defeat the Peoples Republic 
of China (PRC) in a military conflict. To execute Force Design 2030, 
the Marine Corps has reduced the number and size of its infantry 
battalions, divested of all its tanks, and reduced the number of 
aviation squadrons and cannon artillery batteries. Additionally, just 
last month it was reported that the Light Amphibious Warship--a central 
piece to the concepts of Stand-in Forces (SIF) and Force Design--would 
be furthered delayed until 2025, with the first delivery not expected 
until 2027. I'm concerned that this could create a significant gap in 
capability during a dangerous time-frame related to a Taiwan scenario. 
Could you explain how the rate of divestiture to the rate of new 
capability integration keeps the Marine Corps optimally prepared for 
conflict both now and in 2030?
    General Berger. Through experimentation and consultation with 
stakeholders, including this Committee, we build the necessary force of 
tomorrow while maintaining our capabilities for crisis response and 
combat. The Marine Corps continues to leverage all elements of the 
Marine Air Ground Task Force to mitigate potential imbalances between 
investments and divestments. Recently designating II Marine 
Expeditionary Force as a Service retained CONUS-based immediate 
response force, Task Force 61/2 activities in Europe, and 2d Marine Air 
Wing's shift from exercises in Norway to help counter Russian 
aggression reflect the Service's ongoing initiatives to support the 
Joint Force and remain prepared for conflict. Meanwhile, as a result of 
continuous experimentation and refinement, we adjusted artillery, 
infantry, and aviation structure to optimize meeting our modernization 
objectives while remaining a viable, relevant force today. We will 
continue this iterative process of sourcing combat-credible task-
organized forces, experimenting, and refinement, constantly mindful of 
the pacing threat and our Service's role to the Nation.
                             combined arms
    42. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in public remarks you have 
been adamant that Force Design 2030 will not prevent the Marine Corps' 
from generating combined arms capable formations. Marine Corps 
Doctrinal Publication--1 Warfighting defines combined arms as ``the 
full integration of arms in such a way that to counteract one, the 
enemy must become more vulnerable to the other.'' For the last 80 
years, combined arms in the Marine Corps meant tanks, cannon artillery, 
and aviation. Underpinning Force Design is a new vision of what 
combined arms warfare requires under modern combat conditions. Could 
you describe in detail the difference between how the Marine Corps 
employs combined arms now and how it will do so in 2030?
    General Berger. Combined arms now and in the future encompass 
additional domains such as space, cyber, and information. New 
capabilities in each of these domains must be integrated within our 
combined arms approach. Additionally, we must also use older 
capabilities in new ways that are effective against technologically 
advanced adversaries.
    Force Design 2030 will retain 7 Active component and 6 Reserve 
component cannon artillery batteries and 14 Medium Range Missile (MMSL) 
batteries and 3 Long Range Missile (LMSL) batteries. While initially 
fielded with an anti-ship missile, the MMSL will incorporate the MLRS 
Family of Munitions (MFOM) enabling a wider array of effects. 
Additionally, our Organic Precision Fires (OPF) program will add 
loitering munitions to the force, which when integrated in a combined 
arms plan will significantly increase the lethality of the force as 
shown recently in the Second Nagorno Karabakh war and in ongoing 
operations in Ukraine.
    These new capabilities at echelon enhance the combined arms effects 
(both kinetic and non-kinetic) that units can generate. Combining anti-
armor (loitering munitions, MAAWS, Javelin and manned aviation) systems 
along with fielding the Amphibious Combat Vehicle provides an ability 
for armor protected maneuver, fires and anti-armor capability.
    Finally, the Marine Corps retains its ability to conduct combined 
arms operations at echelon while enhancing its ability to serve a 
critical role in gaining and maintaining custody of targets and 
subsequently closing ``kill webs'' for the Naval and Joint force. Our 
continuous experimentation in reconnaissance / counter reconnaissance 
continues to inform this capability.

    43. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, throughout time the Marine 
Corps proved itself ``most ready when the Nation was least ready,'' 
rapidly accomplishing all assigned missions and prevailing on every 
battlefield to which it was committed. How will the Marine Corps, both 
now and in 2030, be able to maintain a ``force in readiness'' and 
respond to crises outside the Indo-Pacific?
    General Berger. While the Service focuses on the pacing threat in 
the Indo-Pacific, it remains the Nation's premier expeditionary force 
in readiness, capable of global employment at a moment's notice. 
Marines serve currently in multiple crisis response missions outside 
the Indo-Pacific region:

      Our marines deploy aboard Navy Amphibious Ready Group 
(ARG) shipping as part of Marine Expeditionary Units (MEU), offering 
the Geographic Combatant Commanders a ready force which cooperates with 
Allies and Partners, competes with potential adversaries, and stands 
ready to provide humanitarian assistance, disaster relief, or otherwise 
respond to crisis.

      We provide task organized rotational forces to Europe, 
capable of rapidly shifting from competition to crisis response, as 
demonstrated this year when Russia invaded Ukraine and Marine Corps 
forces exercising nearby shifted location and mission to support the 
Geographic Combatant Commander and our allies.

      Task Force 51/5 is an integrated Navy-Marine Corps team 
in U.S. Central Command, capable of crisis response. In fact, 51/5 
provided some of the first boots on the ground during the 2021 
Afghanistan noncombatant evacuation operations.

      Marine Corps Fleet Anti-Terrorism Security Teams and 
Marine Security Augmentation Units posture in the United States and 
abroad to reinforce embassies or other United States Government high 
value locations worldwide. We also provide aviation support to crisis 
response forces in East Africa.

    Meanwhile, we work to enhance our crisis response capability by 
recently designating II Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) as a Service 
retained CONUS-based immediate response force. This force will include 
a 2 to 3-star Joint Task Force Headquarters, a regimental headquarters 
(led by a Colonel), and an infantry battalion, all capable of deploying 
within 10 days to wherever the Joint Force needs marines to stabilize a 
situation and/or build our national security leaders' situational 
awareness. Also, recent Task Force 61/2 activities in Europe reflect 
the Service's experimentation with formations similar to Task Force 51/
5, capable of competition and crisis response in other geographic 
regions. These forces will be complimentary to, not in place of 
deployed ARG/MEUs that we and our Navy counterparts will continue to 
deploy at a persistent global presence.
                                 access
    44. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the concept for Stand-in 
Forces calls for the marine to operate within an adversary's weapon 
engagement zone (WEZ). However, in the event of a conflict with the 
PRC, many of the countries in which Stand-in Forces might be deployed 
will be under immense political, economic, and military pressure from 
the PRC to either expel U.S. forces or deny access to U.S. forces. What 
assumptions about access have you made with SIF concept development?
    General Berger. The Stand-in Forces' (SIF) forward and persistent 
presence establishes posture and enables it to support naval 
campaigning in the contact layer by building upon existing 
relationships with allies and partners. These relationships then inform 
how SIF provide specific support to allies and partners, and where and 
how they can operate from host nation littorals. Achieving the 
necessary level of access will require close coordination through the 
chain of command to the combatant commander, as well as close 
coordination with interagency partners, particularly the State 
Department. Among other activities, SIF use security cooperation, 
security force assistance, and exercise events to deepen relationships 
and to develop the maritime domain awareness picture. Ultimately, SIF 
seek to routinely and consistently operate forward with our allies and 
partners to build and sustain access during competition. If armed 
conflict occurs, SIF extend the battlespace as the forward element of a 
maritime defense-in-depth to limit adversary freedom of action in 
support of naval maneuver and joint force access. Furthermore, having 
an increase in shipbuilding for our amphibious fleet will provide the 
flexibility and resilience under various operational contexts.

    45. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how would denied or revoked 
access to Indo-Pacific nations within the first- and second-island 
chains impact the Marine Corps' ability to employ SIF or execute EABO?
    General Berger. Any operations conducted without the support of 
allies and partners significantly reduces military options. Operations 
in close alignment with them, from their territories, alongside their 
ships and aircraft, and in cooperative and even integrated formations 
on the ground will enhance deterrence and enable success. Our 
collective security is a product of our alliances and partnerships. 
Stand-In Forces must campaign continuously with our partners to ensure 
we are postured to deter adversaries such as China. Our modernized 
global positioning network consisting of a mix of shore and ship based 
pre-positioning assets provides us with the flexibility and resilience 
to operate under a variety of operational contexts. This is why we 
continue to advocate for an increase in shipbuilding for the U.S. Navy 
including our amphibious fleet.
                 combatant commanders and force design
    46. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how has combatant commander 
demand signal shaped Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. As our Marine Expeditionary Forces continue to work 
with their Fleet counterparts, the geographic combatant commanders are 
taking notice of the value we bring. For example, our experimentation 
with the Sixth Fleet conducting reconnaissance and counter-
reconnaissance activities is filling a gap for the EUCOM Commander. The 
same is the case in both Central Command and Indo-Pacific command. The 
more we experiment with the fleet with newly fielded equipment, the 
more we are learning. We continue to evaluate our assumptions and 
theories and are making adjustments as we go. Combatant Commanders want 
capabilities that are useful across a variety of contexts. For example, 
they want marine capabilities to respond to crisis, provide situational 
awareness, and possess combat credible capabilities to support 
deterrence. Our Corps meets those demands.

    47. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how have combatant commanders 
been integrated into the iterative process of Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. Largely through our operations and experimentation, 
as described above. Each time a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) deploys 
or a Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) conducts an experiment or 
exercise, they are in support of a combatant commander. Marines are 
filling the requirements the combatant commanders are registering. For 
example, we directly support the Indo-Pacom commander with exercises 
such as Pacific Sentry and RIMPAC. We do the same for EUCOM during 
exercises such as Cold Response. The objectives for these exercises are 
set by the combatant commanders and refined by the Marine Expeditionary 
Force and Marine Force planners to ensure we provide what they want 
along with testing some of our hypotheses.

    48. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, did the U.S. Combatant 
Commanders concur with the level of risk being introduced into their 
plans, operations, activities, and investments with the implementation 
of Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. With modernization there is an inherent balance of 
near and long-term risk. If we sacrifice long-term risk in favor of the 
present, the risk in the long-term is likely to grow exponentially to 
which we may not recover from. As part of the Title X requirements for 
the Commandant of the Marine Corps, it is the Commandant's legal 
responsibility to man, train, and equip a force capable of meeting 
statutory requirements now and in the future. The Commandant must 
balance Geographic Combatant Commanders and the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff's requirements with available resources and emerging 
technological, cultural, financial, and other trends.

    49. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in the past, the Marine Corps 
had three infantry regimental headquarters and eight infantry 
battalions located in the Indo-Pacific Command's theater west of 
Hawaii. Under Force Design 2030, these infantry regimental headquarters 
will transition into three Marine Littoral Regimental headquarters. Was 
this significant change approved by the Indo-Pacific Command Commander?
    General Berger. Under Title X, the Commandant of the Marine Corps 
is responsible for manning, training, and equipping the service 
necessary to meet its statutory requirements. This is includes 
modernizing a force to increase its value proposition to the joint 
force. The current plan to transition 3d, 4th, and 12th Marine 
Regiments to 3d, 4th, and 12th Marine Littoral Regiment, we believe, 
does just that. However, as part of our Campaign of Learning, the 
Marine Corps will refine its modernization by, with, and through the 
input of our operating forces to ensure the right support for the joint 
force.
                      amphibious ship requirement
    50. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and 
General Berger, in a statement to Defense News on April 4th, Deputy 
Commandant of the Marine Corps for Capabilities Development and 
Integration, Lieutenant General Karsten Heckl, stated, ``the Marine 
Corps has a requirement for absolutely no less than 31 amphibious 
warfare ships.'' Could you please elaborate on the operational 
imperative for 31 amphibious warfare ships?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The operational imperative 
for 31 traditional amphibious ships (LHA/LHD/LPD/LSD) is to provide 
credible deterrence, support campaigning strategies, and offer options 
for the rapid aggregation of forward, scalable, tailored, and ready 
forces to respond to crisis or conflict in support of Combatant 
Commanders operational and Global Force Management (GFM) requirements. 
Additionally, traditional amphibious ships provide crisis response 
outside of conflict through activities such as Humanitarian Assistance/
Disaster Relief and Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations. Thirty-one 
ships provides global response options at an acceptable level of risk 
while maintaining Navy and Marine Corps force generation cycles for 
maintenance and training.
    In the past 12 years in AFRICOM and CENTCOM, marines from 
amphibious warfare ships evacuated United States embassies in Libya and 
Yemen; reinforced the embassy in Iraq; rescued a downed Air Force pilot 
in Libya; put artillery units ashore to bombard ISIS in Syria; and, 
most recently in August, were the first on the ground to support the 
evacuation efforts out of Afghanistan. With fewer than 31 traditional 
amphibious ships, the Navy will have reduced capacity to respond to 
crises in the future.
    General Berger. In my professional military judgment, the Marine 
Corps has a requirement for no less than 31 amphibious warfare ships. 
As ships are being decommissioned faster than they are procured, 
delivered, and eventually employed, the inventory under the current 
plan will decrease to approximately 25 ships over the next few years. 
With this lower inventory, we will likely still support the Indo-
Pacific region but will have to accept risk elsewhere in the world. For 
instance, in the past 12 years in AFRICOM and CENTCOM, marines from 
amphibious warfare ships evacuated United States embassies in Libya and 
Yemen; reinforced the embassy in Iraq; rescued a downed Air Force pilot 
in Libya; put artillery units ashore to bombard ISIS in Syria; and most 
recently in August, were the first on the ground to support the 
evacuation efforts out of Afghanistan. The Marine Corps' ability to 
respond to crises like these in AFRICOM, CENTCOM and EUCOM will be at 
risk as amphibious warfare ship numbers decrease to approximately 25 
ships in the next few years and remain at that level for the remainder 
of the decade.

    51. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, in your statement 
submitted to this Committee, you write, ``Amphibious warships like the 
LHA and LPD are vital for the organic mobility and expeditionary 
persistence of our Marine Corps, and remain in high demand . . . '' 
Yet, this budget would cut LPD production after hull number 32 and 
potentially dip the amphibious ship count to around 25 by fiscal year 
2027. If these ships ``remain in high demand'' as you state, why is 
that not reflected in the budget?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department is very committed to amphibious 
lift. The fiscal year 2023 budget balances capability and capacity 
across warfare areas to deliver a combat capable force in the near-
term. Warfighting requirements will be updated based on the 2022 
National Defense Strategy, which will inform the fiscal year 2024 
shipbuilding plan. Further, the forthcoming Amphibious Fleet 
Requirement Study will set the requirement for traditional amphibious 
ships (LHA/LHD/LPD/LSD) and inform the Navy's strategic approach to 
amphibious force structure. Resourcing decisions will be reflected in 
future budget submissions.

    52. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how would having only 25 
amphibious warships degrade our ability to deter and if necessary 
defeat an adversary?
    General Berger. The primary deployed formation of America's crisis 
response force is a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) aboard a Navy 
Amphibious Ready Group (ARG). The ARG consists of 3 amphibious warfare 
ships; 1 LHA/LHD and either 2 LPDs or 1 LSD and 1 LPD. Removing 7 
amphibious warfare ships reduces the battle force inventory by one-
third, or over two ARGs worth of expeditionary warfare capacity.
    With our current inventory of 32 amphibious warfare ships we can 
produce an annual global presence of 1.7 deployed ARG/MEUs to support 
theater campaign objectives. This includes our 1.0 ARG/MEU deployed 
contribution to the Immediate Response Forces, as well as a .7 
patrolling presence from our Forward Deployed Naval Forces. This 
readiness allows for consistent campaigning activities that do not cede 
key areas of the global commons to the enemy, making it difficult to 
retake that terrain after a conflict has commenced. This same formation 
enables joint force maneuver during the early stages of conflict--a key 
factor in denying the enemy's ability to achieve fait accompli 
objectives as observed in campaign analyses.
    With 25 ships and based on historical readiness rates, the Marine 
Corps will be unable to maintain a reliable, consistent, and enduring 
forward deployed ARG/MEU presence. Gaps between the consecutive ARG/
MEUs and our forward presence will become pronounced and are likely to 
increase substantially over time due to a proportionally higher demand 
on a smaller set of aging platforms. Moreover, if a Combatant Commander 
requires the capability to conduct an amphibious assault in a formation 
larger than an ARG/MEU, our war planning requirements dictate 15-20 
amphibious warfare ships. The Marine Corps estimates that with an 
inventory of 25 ships, a significant effort by our already weakened 
industrial base would be required to assemble an amphibious task force 
of that size--with risk to responsiveness and capability, and, 
ultimately, risk to mission.
    An inventory of 25 amphibious warfare ships reduces our Nation's 
forward presence that supports campaigning and limits our Nation's 
ability to respond to crisis. Moreover, the limited amphibious warfare 
ship inventory increases the time necessary to assemble assets in 
conflict. Lastly, an inventory of 25 amphibious warfare ships poses a 
significant risk for training and readiness as substantiated by the 
KEARSARGE ARG's inability to deploy inside of 30 days prior to its 
scheduled departure, despite the fact that today's battle force 
inventory includes 32 L-class ships.
                        light amphibious warship
    53. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and 
General Berger, the Navy announced recently that the Light Amphibious 
Warship would be delayed again, this time until fiscal year 2025. In 
your annual update to Force Design you said the Marine Corps would use 
Expeditionary Transfer Docks (ESBs), Expeditionary Fast Transports (T-
EPF), Landing Craft Utility (LCUs), and leased ships to bridge the gap 
until the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) begins delivery. In your 
estimate, how close is the Marine Corps to validating the LAW 
requirements for production and delivery?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Light Amphibious Warship 
analysis of alternatives (AOA) and final report is complete. Next 
actions include AOA sufficiency analysis by the Office of the Secretary 
of Defense, Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation, a Joint Staff 
Review, a Joint Requirements Oversight Council (JROC) review, and JROC 
memorandum publication. These actions are scheduled to complete in 
fiscal year 2022. This process, coupled with inputs from industry, will 
inform the writing of the Capabilities Development Document (CDD), 
planned to be approved in fiscal year 2023. Prior to CDD publication, 
concept and preliminary design efforts are proceeding with industry 
partners.
    General Berger. The Landing Ship Medium (LSM), formerly known as 
the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW), analysis of alternatives (AOA) and 
final report is complete. Next actions include AOA sufficiency analysis 
by the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, a Joint Staff 
Review, a Joint Requirements Oversight Council (JROC) review, and JROC 
memorandum publication. These actions are scheduled to occur between 
now and July 2022. This process, coupled with inputs from industry, 
will inform the writing of the capabilities development document (CDD), 
planned to be approved in early fiscal year 2023. Prior to CDD 
publication, preliminary design is expected to be complete in August 
2022.

    54. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and 
General Berger, what else remains to be validated to move forward with 
the Light Amphibious Warship?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Navy is in the material 
solution analysis phase of the acquisition process for the Light 
Amphibious Warship program. The Navy approved the Analysis of 
Alternatives (AOA) at a Gate 2 on 22 March 2022. The AOA concluded a 
purpose-built ship is best suited for the mission from a cost and 
effectiveness perspective. The AOA is currently undergoing sufficiency 
review at the Office of the Secretary of Defense, Cost Assessment and 
Program Evaluation, and will then enter Joint Requirements Oversight 
Council staffing.
    The Navy awarded the Concept Study (CS)/Preliminary Design (PD) 
effort to five industry partners in June 2021: Austal, Bollinger, 
Fincantieri, VT Halter, and TAI Engineers. These industry partners 
completed the CS phase in October 2021. The Navy exercised the PD 
options with all five industry partners in January 2022. The program is 
incorporating the AOA results and feedback from the five industry 
preliminary designs into the Capabilities Development Document (CDD) to 
support endorsement by the Navy as part of the Gate 3 Program Review 
targeted for 4th quarter fiscal year 2022.
    The Navy is on track to have an approved CDD to support the 
acquisition timeline to procure the lead ship in fiscal year 2025.
    General Berger. The Landing Ship Medium (LSM), formerly known as 
the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW), analysis of alternatives (AOA) 
final report is complete. Next actions include AOA sufficiency analysis 
by the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, a Joint Staff 
Review, a Joint Requirements Oversight Council (JROC) review, and JROC 
memorandum publication. These actions are scheduled to occur between 
now and July 2022. This process, coupled with inputs from industry, 
will inform the writing of the capabilities development document (CDD), 
planned to be approved in early fiscal year 2023. Prior to CDD 
publication, preliminary design is expected to be complete in August 
2022.

    55. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, I understand the Marine Corps 
plans to lease two commercial stern-ramp landing vessels starting in 
late summer 2022 to experiment with the LAW concept. Is this a 
preliminary effort to validate the LAW's requirements or is it a 
parallel effort to give Marine Littoral Regiments platforms to 
experiment with while they wait for the LAW to be built?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps, through Military Sealift Command, 
is chartering an existing civilian Offshore Support Vessel, modified 
with a stern beach landing capability, to support service level 
experimentation over the next 5 years. While experimentation is the 
primary purpose, the Marine Corps anticipates these actions will help 
inform and validate Light Amphibious Warship requirements.

    56. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, some DOD 
officials and commentators have questioned the survivability of these 
Light Amphibious Warships given their comparative lack of defensive 
systems. Can you explain why and how these ships are survivable across 
the conflict spectrum?
    Admiral Gilday. The Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) is designed to 
operate in a highly contested environment. The Navy is in the process 
of defining the requirements for the LAW with the approval of the 
Capability Development Document (CDD) expected in the beginning of 
fiscal year 2023. The specific systems that the Navy is considering as 
options to achieve the required level of survivability are classified; 
however, the Navy is working closely with our industry partners to 
ensure the design of the LAW meets all operational requirements.
    General Berger. A comprehensive analysis of alternatives was 
conducted to examine the Landing Ship Medium (LSM), formerly known as 
the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW), survivability. The findings reveal 
that by improving design, employing proper operational methods, and 
applying technological means the LSM can significantly reduce the 
probability of detection and intercept, which in turn drastically 
improves survivability. To operate effectively in key maritime terrain 
littoral maneuver is a primary function to enable success. The 
survivability of the entire Stand-in Force is enhanced when they can be 
delivered to a shoreline, a littoral transition point, at the time and 
place of our choosing and execute the functions outlined in 
expeditionary advanced base operations. The unit's survivability is 
further enhanced when the unit can rapidly displace from key maritime 
terrain and reposition via LSM.
                             nmesis testing
    57. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in his opening statement 
before the Seapower Subcommittee last month, Lieutenant General Karsten 
Heckl stated, ``[i]n this budget request, the Navy/Marine Corps 
Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS) continues to be the 
Marine Corps' top modernization priority and is the critical lethality 
component to our anti-ship capability.'' Continuing later in his 
statement, he writes, ``the Marine Corps has successfully tested NMESIS 
twice, once in November 2020 and more recently in August 2021.'' What 
did these two operational tests show you that allowed the Marine Corps 
to request $345 million for the program in the fiscal year 2023 budget?
    General Berger. Guided Flight Tests, Characterization Tests, and 
Early User Evaluations for the Navy/Marine Corps Expeditionary Ship 
Interdiction System (NMESIS) have been ongoing since 2020 with positive 
results, leading to a planned fiscal year 2022 3rd Quarter Operational 
Assessment that includes Ballistic Flight Tests. Characterization 
Testing has assessed leader/follower operations, cross country 
movements, road movement, and deep water fording. Early User Evaluation 
has reported positive results in execution of three different mobility 
field exercises and two raid missions utilizing KC-130s with simulated 
firing missions and 11th Marines continues to evaluate the system. 
Additionally, testing and certification for transport via helicopter 
(externally), landing craft air cushion, and KC-130 has been completed.
    Based on the NMESIS program's positive trend, the Service has 
request $345.054 million to procure 24 NMESIS systems and 115 Naval 
Strike Missiles. These procurements will build on the initial fiscal 
year 2022 procurement, increasing inventory levels to support 
operational requirements.
                               logistics
    58. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in your most recent update to 
Force Design 2030, you write, ``[o]ur capstone Service game 
EXPEDITIONARY WARRIOR 21, informed the Distributed Maritime Logistics 
Operations concept currently in development in partnership with the 
Navy and shaped our logistics experimentation campaign plan.'' Could 
you provide a report on the findings of this capstone service game as 
it relates to contested logistics?
    General Berger. The wargame explored the organization and concept 
of operational logistics in INDOPACOM in order to inform the 
development of concepts required to posture and sustain a naval force-
in-readiness (in this case the Marine littoral regiment) executing 
expeditionary advanced base operations in a contested environment. The 
game examined aspects of force closure, time critical resupply, and 
continuity of operations in both contact and blunt layers. The 
following findings related specifically to contested logistics.
    The USMC and Navy need to establish a functional concept for 
advanced naval bases (ANB). An ANB is not the same as an expeditionary 
advanced base. It is a temporary base established in or near an 
operational area (but generally outside the enemy weapons engagement 
zone) whose primary mission is to support fleet operations, to include 
expeditionary advanced based operations, during the conduct of a naval 
campaign. The draft Distributed Maritime Logistics Operations (DMLO) 
specifically mentions the development of policy and codification of 
processes for advanced naval base operations. Moving forward the USMC 
will seek opportunities to examine the evolving ANB concept in 
wargames.
    Prepositioning will be critical to successful operations in the 
INDOPACOM area of operations. The draft DMLO discusses the criticality 
of prepositioning and need for wargaming, experimentation and 
exercises. The USMC is evaluating its current concept for 
prepositioning (Maritime Prepositioning in Support of Distributed 
Maritime Operations, June 2020) and exploring other prepositioning 
options. The USMC will seek opportunities to refine these concepts 
through an integrated planning team in September 2022, future logistics 
wargames, analytical studies, and live force experimentation.
    Further analysis is required to integrate installations and 
operational units in the Western Pacific in order to achieve unity of 
command and effort in a contested environment. Our draft Logistics 
Experimentation Campaign Plan supports analyzing advance base concepts 
and operational logistics integration. We executed a follow-on game 
analyzing the Fleet Marine Force Logistics Command in May of 2022 and 
will conduct a game in August of 2022 to assess advance base concepts. 
These games will build on each other and feed into the October 22 Naval 
Services Game, which will have an operational logistics focus. 
Additionally, wargames will leverage ongoing studies, such as the 
Operations Analysis Directorate's Marine Logistics Support Group 
Transformation Study.
    In addition to the relationship with the Navy, USMC relationships 
and activities with other joint and interagency counterparts are key to 
conducting successful logistics operations in a contested environment. 
The draft DMLO discusses the need for greater integration with the Navy 
and other joint and interagency counterparts in contested logistics 
environment. Both the August 2022 logistics game and the Naval Services 
Game in October 2022 are being designed to include joint, interagency, 
alliance and coalition partners to the maximum extent possible.

    59. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how is the Marine Corps 
experimenting with or testing ways to reduce the logistical demand 
signal from MLRs or other task-organized Marine Corps units deployed 
inside an adversary WEZ?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps has developed a service-level 
Logistics Experimentation Campaign Plan (LECP) for execution during 
fiscal years 2022-2025. The plan is aligned to the objectives and 
learning demands identified during the service's ``campaign of 
learning'' process. The Marine Corps will conduct extended 
experimentation simultaneously across multiple lines of effort. Units 
from the Fleet Marine Force, Marine Forces Reserve and the supporting 
establishment will conduct experiments during exercises and wargames 
sponsored by the Naval Services, Combatant Commands and Joint Staff. 
Experimentation focus on demand reduction and logistical sustainment 
across the phases of conflict in a contested environment. The 
experimentation will also examine the reorganization of support units, 
their command relationships and how best to leverage operational and 
strategic logistics support mechanisms.
    Logistics experimentation will include field user evaluations of 
equipment focused on small power and water production, renewable and 
hybrid systems, batteries/power storage, and improved fuel efficiency 
in a variety of legacy manned and unmanned mobility platforms. 
Experimentation will also include the introduction of new and 
innovative distribution platforms. The Marine Corps will continue 
participation in ongoing DON and OSD energy demand reduction working 
groups and will produce a service energy strategy that to addresses 
both operating force units and activities aboard bases and stations 
located within the weapons engagement zone (WEZ). Experimentation will 
also examine evolving the current pre-positioning program into a Global 
Positioned Network that incorporates afloat and ashore resources with 
theater-specific supplies, equipment and service capabilities.
    Lastly, the Marine Corps will experiment with an enhanced logistics 
IT system that will be employed to support maneuver elements. This 
system will provide the commander a common operational picture showing 
near-real time status of supply and support (service capacities, 
location, and inventories). This system will increase decision-making 
accuracy and the operational reach of logistics information, ultimately 
increasing lethality.

    60. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, General Eric Smith appeared 
on the USNI Proceedings Podcast on May 4, 2022, stating, ``[l]ogistics 
is hard for everybody, and that remains the pacing challenge . . . a 
gallon of gas still weighs almost seven pounds, gallon of water weighs 
8 pounds, you still got to move it. So what's the answer? Don't need it 
. . . forage it.'' Do you believe locally sourcing food, water, and 
fuel is viable in locations where the government and population do not 
support a U.S. presence?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps sustains its marines in accordance 
with Department of Defense (DoD) nutritional guidelines; when overseas, 
this is often accomplished by leveraging host nation contracts that 
have been vetted through Army Public Health Command and are on the DoD-
approved sources list. Any opportunity to locally source food, water, 
or fuel requires a feasibility assessment that is conducted during a 
logistics preparation of the operating environment or a physical 
network analysis. Local sourcing is one way to increase our sustainment 
web while reducing a unit's footprint in order to provide flexibility 
and redundancy to a commander. An unsupportive government and/or 
population is part of that feasibility analysis, and could reduce some 
of those opportunities to locally source capabilities. Marines are also 
currently taught basic survival concepts during entry-level schools to 
provide appropriate field-craft skills should marines find themselves 
low on resources with uncertain resupply timelines.

    61. Senator Sullivan. General Berger and Admiral Gilday, how are 
the Navy and Marine Corps coordinating and collaborating on unmanned 
systems development to overcome the logistical challenges associated 
with implementing EABO, SIF, and Distributed Maritime Operations?
    General Berger. The Navy and Marine Corps assume that our logistics 
will be contested in future conflicts. Consequently, the development 
and incorporation of unmanned systems and capabilities is part of an 
overall effort to ensure we will be able to provide the Fleet and 
warfighters the required logistical support. The two services continue 
to work together at multiple levels and lines of effort in mutual 
support of fighting as a unified team and a key component of the Joint 
Force.
    Some specific lines of effort where Navy and Marine Corps are 
coordinating and collaborating on unmanned systems development to 
overcome logistical challenges include:

      OPNAV N95 is sponsoring, in coordination with other Navy 
and Marine Corps representatives, a Center for Naval Analysis study to 
determine potential LPD upgrades for Launch/Recovery and tendering of 
unmanned systems.

      T-EPF 13 is being built with a unique Autonomous 
Prototype on board, and the ship will be tested to autonomously 
navigate in open waters. This coordinated USN and USMC effort based on 
the T-EPF intra-theater transport vessel will further our understanding 
of how to apply autonomy not only in this class of logistic support 
ship but potentially to other vessels.

      U.S. Pacific Fleet (PACFLT) and U.S. Marine Corps Forces, 
Pacific (MARFORPAC) have jointly submitted Rapid Defense 
Experimentation Reserve (RDER) proposals and a Naval Innovative Science 
and Engineering (NISE) proposal for furthering the use of remotely 
operated logistic surface platforms in support of expeditionary 
advanced bases.

      The Marine Corps has developed a prototype of an unmanned 
landing craft, the Autonomous Littoral Connector (ALC.) Funded by the 
Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory, ALC has been tested in Europe as 
part of the NATO Joint Logistics Over-The-Shore exercise (JLOTS.) This 
was the first time an autonomous landing craft was deployed as part of 
a NATO exercise outside the continental United States and included 
autonomously transporting a load from ship to pier.

      In accordance with Force Design 2030, the USMC has funded 
and is executing a robust Unmanned Logistics System-Air (ULS-A) program 
to meet a formal small and medium category airborne battalion-level and 
below tactical supply requirement. The Small Tactical Resupply UAS 
(TRUAS) has completed competition and demonstration and is currently 
engaged in Extended User Evaluations (EUE with a fielding decision 
planned early fiscal year 2023. The Medium ULS-A (MULS-A) will commence 
prototyping in fiscal year 2023 with delivery of initial prototypes 
fiscal year 2024. The initial prototypes will be evaluated by end users 
for follow-on prototyping or fielding. Though the initial TRUAS and 
MULS-A systems focus on ashore operations; future iterations with 
technological maturation, will include ship-to-ship, ship-to-shore, and 
shore-to-ship capabilities.

      Further testing of this capability is scheduled during 
the Office of Naval Research's Navy/Marine Corps SCOUT experiment event 
in SOUTHCOM AOR on USNS BURLINGTON in October 2022.The Chief of Naval 
Air Training (CNATRA) is establishing a dedicated undergraduate 
unmanned Air Vehicle Operator (AVO) training pipeline to serve all Navy 
and Marine Corps AVOs, and the Navy's first class of undergraduate AVOs 
began training in March 2022.

    Admiral Gilday. The Navy and Marine Corps assume that in future 
conflicts our logistics will be contested, and the development and 
incorporation of unmanned systems and capabilities is part of an 
overall effort to ensure we will be able to provide the Fleet and 
warfighters required logistical support. The two services continue to 
work together at multiple levels and lines of effort, all in mutual 
support of fighting as a unified team and a key component of the Joint 
Force.
    The Navy and Marine Corps are working together to develop unmanned 
capabilities in support of logistics in a contested environment to 
include:

      Conducting Navy/Marine Corps Mothership analyses/studies 
to support all UxS domain launch/recover/tender and maintenance 
demands.

      Developed an experimentation plan for concept 
exploration/development between the Stern Landing Vessel and EPF-13 
which has been upgraded for autonomous surface navigation.

      The use of remotely-operated logistic surface platforms 
in support of EABs.

      Autonomous landing craft to autonomously transport loads 
from ship to pier.

      The Unmanned Logistics System-Air (ULS-A) program to 
support Battalion level and below tactical supply requirement.

      Established a dedicated undergraduate unmanned Air 
Vehicle Operator (AVO) training pipeline to serve all Navy and Marine 
Corps AVOs.

    62. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, when discussing the 
modernization of the Marine Corps logistics portfolio in your statement 
submitted to the Committee, your write, ``[t]he most visible platforms 
will be a family of uncrewed logistics air systems, the smallest of 
which are already in prototyping and live experimentation.'' Has the 
use of unmanned systems, whether aerial, surface, or subsurface, show 
enough promise to become a significant provider of joint force 
logistics?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is currently assessing the future 
role of unmanned systems in providing logistics support. For example, 
the Marine Corps has funded and is executing a robust Unmanned 
Logistics System-Air (ULS-A) program to meet a formal small and medium 
category airborne battalion-level and below tactical supply 
requirement. The Small Tactical Resupply UAS (TRUAS) has completed 
competition and demonstration and is currently engaging in Fleet field 
assessments and maturing down selected prototypes via an Other 
Transaction Authority contracting strategy. Further testing of this 
capability is scheduled during the Office of Naval Research's Navy/
Marine Corps SCOUT experiment event in SOUTHCOM AOR on USNS Burlington 
in October 2022.

    63. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, will you provide an update or 
briefing to this Committee on the validation of unmanned systems in 
support of joint force logistics?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is currently assessing the future 
role of unmanned systems in providing logistics support. For example, 
the Marine Corps has funded and is executing a robust Unmanned 
Logistics System-Air (ULS-A) program to meet a formal small and medium 
category airborne battalion-level and below tactical supply 
requirement. The Small Tactical Resupply UAS (TRUAS) has completed 
competition and demonstration and is currently engaging in Fleet field 
assessments and maturing down selected prototypes via an Other 
Transaction Authority contracting strategy. Further testing of this 
capability is scheduled during the Office of Naval Research's Navy/
Marine Corps SCOUT experiment event in SOUTHCOM AOR on USNS Burlington 
in October 2022.
                                 fires
    64. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Force Design 2030 Annual 
Update lists actions that the Marine Corps plans to undertake in the 
upcoming year. Some issues were identified as ``requiring further 
analysis'', such as to ``conduct a holistic study of MAGTF [Marine Air-
Ground Task Force] fires to enable sound prioritization for future 
resource decisions...'' and, specifically, Directed Action 20, to 
``conduct a holistic MAGTF fires study to identify any gaps in all-
weather fire support coverage.'' What fires studies were completed 
before the Marine Corps decided to divest itself of a significant 
portion of its cannon artillery?
    General Berger. A robust body of analysis, framed by existing 
strategic guidance, has informed each step of the Force Design (FD) 
2030 iterative process. Within that process, a fundamental principle is 
that the Marine Corps will not ask Congress to increase its total 
budget. Instead, we will judiciously divest of legacy systems in order 
to invest in modernized capabilities that most contribute to gaining 
relative warfighting advantage over potential adversaries. Below is an 
unclassified summary of key fires-related contributory efforts that led 
to the initial direction in the Commandant's Planning Guidance (July 
2019) and objective force investment decisions published in the FD2030 
Phase I & II Report (March 2020):

      Future Ground Combat Element Fires for MAGTF Operations 
Study (Operations Analysis Directorate, 2018): Holistic gap analysis of 
M777 (cannon), M142 (rocket), and TPS-80 (G/ATOR) across multiple 
scenarios and force structures. The study objective was to 
quantitatively understand artillery gaps from the time of the study 
through fiscal year 2025 based on the Marine Corps Operating Concept 
and multiple recent (at the time) qualitative wargames indicating 
potential artillery shortfalls. Gaps identified include: range of 
cannon artillery vs. adversary precision munitions, timeliness of 
counter-fire capabilities, availability of preferred M777 munitions 
limiting both its lethality and volume of fires, and survivability 
based on mobilization time. M142 gaps were fewer than those of M777 
across all assessed cases.

      Study on Countering Anti-Access Systems with Longer Range 
and Standoff Capabilities: Assault Breaker II (Defense Science Board, 
2018): A joint examination of emergent pacing threat capabilities and 
objectives. Recommendations included the requirements of the U.S. joint 
force to respond in a timely manner to deny adversary theories of 
victory without undue escalation or large scale deployment of U.S. 
manned forces. Denying or deterring adversary strategic objectives 
requires long-range and/or pre-positioned short range weapons with 
dedicated, persistent, and survivable intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance to hold adversary command and control and power 
projection assets at risk.

      Provident Stare: USMC Force Design 2030 Integrated 
Planning Team (Combat Development and Integration, 2019): A multi-
domain mission analysis of Marine Corps tasks per 2018 National Defense 
Strategy and Title X responsibilities against the framework of the 
Distributed Maritime Operations, Littoral Operations in a Contested 
Environment, and Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations concepts. This 
Integrated Planning Team (IPT) compared an unconstrained baseline force 
against two comparative force structures using different priorities to 
identify the most significant contributory units and systems. IPT 
outputs included recommendations on quantities of these units and 
associated systems.

      Sea Control MEU - MEU Composition Study (Center for Naval 
Analyses, 2020): A focused exploration of Marine Expeditionary Unit 
(MEU) composition in light of emergent peer adversary capabilities and 
objectives. Key findings are classified, but did address specific 
trade-offs between cannon and rocket efficacy. All MEU missions were 
assessed to identify and understand trade-offs and limitations of 
modernized vs. traditional capabilities in both high-end and day-to-day 
operations.

    Summary: The common theme across these analytic efforts is that the 
Marine Corps needed more and better longer-range fires capabilities in 
order to meaningfully contribute to future Joint deter, deny, and 
defeat objectives. In a zero-sum fiscal environment, that meant 
divesting of cannon to invest in rocket artillery.
    The above represents a snapshot of the collective FD2030 Campaign 
of Learning that includes dozens of discrete IPTs, wargames, modeling & 
simulation, and analyses that informed original and subsequent FD2030 
decisions. Additional insights and contributory efforts are available 
at higher classification levels.

    65. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, is the Marine Corps 
integrating Unmanned Aerial Systems into cannon artillery or HIMARS 
batteries to generate an organic target acquisition capability?
    General Berger. In establishing and executing effective kill 
chains, sensors in all domains--particularly airborne, but not 
exclusively--are being integrated with the most direct ties to fires 
elements. The fusion of sensor data will generate target-quality tracks 
available to all elements of the Marine Air-Ground Task Force and the 
Fleet. The persistent surveillance of organic sensors layered with 
theater and national capabilities will also provide battle damage and 
combat assessments to complete the kill chain to determine if desired 
effects have been achieved or re-attack is required.

    66. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, it is my understanding that 
cannon artillery batteries across the Active Component and Reserve 
Component will grow from six guns to eight guns under Force Design 
2030. When will this transition start and when will it finish?
    General Berger. Correct. The plan to transition to eight guns per 
artillery battery will be executed in fiscal year 2025.

    67. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how are personnel in cannon 
artillery batteries being retrained to operate HIMARS and NMESIS?
    General Berger. During the initial training phase, existing Field 
Artillery Cannoneers were trained to operate HIMARS via New Equipment 
Teams as the systems arrived to their units. Currently, Field Artillery 
Marines in ranks E1-E5 that are slated to serve in HIMARS-equipped 
units attend entry-level HIMARS Operator training at Fort Sill. This 
course provides students with the knowledge, skills, and abilities to 
function as a member of the HIMARS section. Fort Sill also provides 
intermediate and advanced level training. Intermediate level training 
consists of the Section Chief Course and is available to Artillery 
Marines between the ranks of E4 to E6, enhancing their military 
occupational specialty (MOS) knowledge to effectively serve as 
cannoneers/HIMARS operators in the artillery battery at section chief 
levels. The Cannoneer Advanced Course is available to Artillery Marines 
between the ranks of E6 to E-8, further enhancing their MOS knowledge 
to effectively serve as senior cannoneers in the artillery battery at 
chief levels. All Artillery Officers receive formal instruction on 
HIMARS at the Basic Artillery Officers School in Fort Sill. NMESIS 
training will occur in two phases: Initial Training and Future Training 
at Formal Learning Centers (FLCs). Initial training is anticipated to 
conclude in fiscal year 2026, followed by formal training at Marine 
Corps FLCs and/or the Naval Strike Missile Schoolhouse in fiscal year 
2027.
                            training ranges
    68. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in your prepared statement 
for the Department of the Navy posture hearing you noted the 
opportunities the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC) affords 
the Marine Corps to train in degraded, denied, or disrupted 
electromagnetic spectrum operations (EMSO) environment. How will the 
Marine Corps use JPARC to exercise the new capabilities and concepts 
you are developing in an EMSO environment?
    General Berger. The ability to sense and make sense of the 
operating environment is rapidly changing with advances in 
electromagnetic capabilities; meanwhile the services are limited by 
available training areas to explore with existing and emerging 
electromagnetic spectrum operations (EMSO) capabilities. I cannot get 
into much detail in an unclassified setting, but the JPARC is 
especially promising in that it offers electromagnetic spectrum, 
maritime, and littoral training areas.

    69. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in your 2022 annual update to 
Force Design 2030 you noted that the Marine Corps' ``current range and 
training infrastructure does not adequately support the combined-arms 
integration of the new systems we are fielding.'' In your prepared 
statement for the Department of the Navy posture hearing you stated the 
need for the Marine Corps to develop a littoral maritime training range 
akin to Range 400 in Twentynine Palms. You also stated that the Marine 
Corps will ``require a maritime training site with suitable seaward and 
landward ranges were we can train with the full range of our multi-
domain weapon systems, to include unscrewed systems.'' JPARC provides 
the capabilities you have identified. How does the Marine Corps plan to 
use JPARC to exercised combined-arms integration with the full range of 
your multi-domain weapon systems?
    General Berger. Use of our current ranges face several limitations. 
Within CONUS, our Open Air/Live Ranges have limitations due to FAA/FCC/
First Responder network interference. Overseas, use of our ranges are 
subject to additional host nation and international agreements which 
limit usage of jammers and certain transceivers. Events on our ranges 
are also under constant adversary surveillance as a means of looking at 
our systems, observing our tactics, techniques, and procedures, and 
examining our efforts to mitigate adversary degrade, deny, and disrupt 
(D3) capability. The Marine Corps needs to better determine what 
training we do on Open Air/Live ranges and what we will do in closed 
loop simulation systems. While we may dedicate use of live ranges to 
practice our networking and integration of command and control and data 
sharing between forces/units/services, we may also create garrison 
facilities that allow teams, platoons, and companies to play 
simulations and war-games which emulate dynamic D3 environments. Our 
goal is to provide operators with the ability to practice systems 
operations, learn how to identify issues and create solutions to 
problems in dynamic environments, and reinforce teamwork needed to 
maneuver in the electromagnetic operating environments (EMOE).
                              air defense
    70. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what counter-Unmanned Aerial 
System (UAS) capabilities does the Marine Corps currently field that 
would be effective against the variety of UAS currently used in combat 
by Ukraine and Russia?
    General Berger. All counter Unmanned Aerial Systems (C-UAS) 
capabilities currently deployed by the USMC are in support of Urgent 
Needs. The systems fielded are Light Marine Air Defense Integrated 
Systems (L-MADIS), Expeditionary MADIS (E-MADIS), Installation CUAS (I-
CUAS), and the Compact Laser Weapon System (CLaWS).
    L-MADIS is a mobile C-UAS system. One L-MADIS system is fielded on 
each Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) via the Low Altitude Air Defense 
(LAAD) Detachment. When not deployed, each system goes through 
maintenance in preparation for the next rotation. The L-MADIS provides 
a non-lethal defeat of UAS via jamming of the radio frequency and/or 
GPS.
    E-MADIS is a fixed/semi-fixed C-UAS capability deployed to PACOM 
defending critical assets on key installations. The E-MADIS provides a 
non-lethal defeat of UAS via jamming of the radio frequency and/or GPS.
    I-CUAS is a fixed/semi-fixed C-UAS capability deployed to various 
USMC installations in the Continental United States (CONUS). The I-CUAS 
provides a non-lethal defeat of UAS via jamming of the radio frequency 
and/or GPS.
    CLaWS is a lethal directed energy weapon system deployed in 
CENTCOM. Originally operated by the USMC, the CLaWS became Theater 
Provided Equipment and is now operated by the U.S. Army. Although 
deployed by the U.S. Army, the Joint Rapid Acquisition Cell (JRAC) 
directed the USMC to sustain the CLaWS.

    71. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what counter-UAS capabilities 
is the Marine Corps developing to counter the types of UAS currently 
used in combat by Ukraine and Russia?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is currently in various stages of 
developing the Marine Air Defense Integrated Systems (MADIS), Light 
Marine Air Defense Integrated Systems (L-MADIS), Installation Counter 
Unmanned Aerial System (I-CUAS), and man-portable CUAS Programs of 
Record. Testing and evaluating of future technology is consistently 
being updated to increase the lethality and effectiveness of all 
components.
    The MADIS Program of Record will be deployed on a pair of Joint 
Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTV). Currently, MADIS is going through 
System Integrated Testing and will begin fielding to the Fleet Marine 
Force in fiscal year 2024. The MADIS will be able to defeat UAS both 
lethally and non-lethally.
    The L-MADIS Program of Record will be deployed on a pair of Ultra-
Light Tactical Vehicle (ULTV). The Critical Design Review will be 
complete this month. L-MADIS Program of Record will begin fielding to 
the FMF in fiscal year 2024 and complete in fiscal year 2028. The L-
MADIS will be able to defeat UAS non-lethally. The I-CUAS Program of 
Record will primarily be used to defend critical assets aboard CONUS 
installations; however, these systems could be operationally employed 
in support of fixed and semi-fixed sites. The I-CUAS will only provide 
a non-lethal defeat of UAS until U.S. Policy dictates otherwise.
    Man-Portable CUAS requirements are in the initial stages of 
development. The system will provide all units down to the Squad level 
the ability to detect, track, identify and defend themselves against 
Group 1 and 2 UAS. The system will be light weight, easy to train and 
operate. Currently the Warfighting Lab is conducting experiments that 
will inform the future weapon system.
    The Mobile All-Domain Observation and Sensing System (MA-DOSS) is a 
developmental effort. MA-DOSS will be a part of the networked force 
protection capabilities available to both the expeditionary force and 
installations. MA-DOSS is being developed with the ability to integrate 
with the MADIS, L-MADIS and I-CUAS PoRs through software commonality 
and open architecture design, providing additional capability for 
sensing, early warning, and targeting data to the kill web(s). MA-DOSS 
is not designed to counter UAS (e.g. through kinetic or non-kinetic 
means) on its own, but rather adds a layer of sensing that supports 
tactical early warning across multiple domains: air, land and sea.
    The Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) is currently working 
with industry to develop overlapping methods of detection and defeat of 
UAS. MCWL is testing radio frequency (RF) detection, persistent 
cameras, and AI/ML software to identify airborne threats. The lab is 
developing multiple sensors and systems through a modular open system 
architecture to collect data across a wide spectrum of detection means 
and ingest the data into a single command and control (C2) structure 
that will consolidate and fuse the data into a target quality track. 
MCWL is exploring both kinetic and non-kinetic means of defeating 
adversary UAS after positive identification. These systems range in 
size and capabilities to address emerging threats. MCWL is evaluating a 
wide range of technologies to enhance the warfighter at the tactical 
small unit level to close with and immediately destroy opposing UAS as 
well as directed energy methods, such as high powered microwave, that 
can be used to defend bases in standard or austere environments from 
single or swarming attacks. Work in developing this enhanced counter-
UAS kill chain will also apply to countering crewed or uncrewed systems 
in other domains.
                        budget and force design
    72. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, if your budget increased, 
would you be able to field any of your planned capabilities sooner?
    General Berger. Yes; with a budget increase, items listed on the 
unfunded priority list would be funded. This would accelerate the 
procurement of future capabilities required to modernize the force.

    73. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, if more money would allow you 
to field capabilities sooner, which capabilities do you view as the 
most critical?
    General Berger. First and foremost, those listed on the unfunded 
priority list. Those items near the top that are not funded equal 
strategic risk. Simply put, they are the parts of Force Design required 
to ensure our capabilities are the same or better than our pacing 
threat. Systems like ground based anti-ship missiles, manned and 
unmanned expeditionary platforms, and communications. All of these 
capabilities enable your Marine Corps to move forward, in a contested 
environment, in a way that supports Naval and Joint Force kill chains.

    74. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in your statement submitted 
to this Committee, you wrote, ``[a]s I have stated in the past, the 
Marine Corps does not seek any additional resources for modernization. 
Rather, we seek your oversight and assistance in ensuring that the 
resources the Service generates through divestments, reorganization, 
and redesign are reinvested in our Corps' modernization priorities.'' 
How would additional resources reduce the risk of Force Design 2030 
implementation?
    General Berger. If left unfunded, all of our unfunded requirements 
equal risk. We are learning as we go with Force Design. We did not know 
2 years ago exactly what the Marine Corps would need to look like a 
decade out. We have a much clearer picture now. In order to give the 
Committees a larger menu to select from--with a clear picture of where 
the Marine Corps is going--we added to the unfunded priority list. 
Those items near the top that are not funded equal strategic risk.

    75. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and 
General Berger, would additional funds allow you to increase your 
Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation and experimentation efforts 
to solve the contested logistics problems as you currently understand 
it?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy 
(DON) established a Naval Contested Logistics Working Group in fiscal 
year 2022 to coordinate and align logistics (supply) and weapon systems 
and platform (demand) development, in support of the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense's Contested Logistics and Operational Energy 
Working Group. The working group developed a list of future Research, 
Development, Test, and Evaluation efforts that would help solve the 
contested logistics problem, which highlights an increase in overall 
logistics demand and energy logistics complications as a result of 
Distributed Maritime Operations, Littoral Operations in Contested 
Environments, and Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations concepts and 
an increase in force size and tempo.
    The list includes efforts such as:

      Development of more adaptive distribution systems that 
allow for modularity and point of need refueling capability beyond 
traditional logistics.

      Energy command and control including monitoring and 
planning technologies to provide closer to real time data on energy 
needs to enable adaptable and optimized logistics.

      Studies and analysis to develop more adaptive and 
responsive systems to operate within a contested logistics environment.

    Funding in these areas would address the studies and analysis, 
research and engineering, and experimentation necessary to enable the 
movement and support of military forces across multiple domains/
environments in a contested environment, and will be evaluated for 
inclusion in future budget requests.
    General Berger. Yes, additional Budget Activity (BA) 6.3/6.4 RDT&E 
funding would increase experimentation and prototyping efforts related 
to secure logistics communication, autonomous and unmanned distribution 
(air, surface, sub-surface, and ground), renewable energy, enhanced 
maneuver to and from seabases/expeditionary advance bases in the 
littorals, and enhanced survivability/sustainment of a highly 
distributed force. Any increase in funding will enable assessment of 
these technologies and their ability to overcome future contested 
logistics challenges.

    76. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, I have 
tremendous concern about the shrinking size of our fleet resulting from 
the anemic budget put forth by the President. The fiscal year 2023 
Presidential Budget request provides for a 4.1 percent increase over 
the amount enacted the fiscal year 2022. Even if the inflation 
estimates of 2.6 percent used by the Department were an accurate 
depiction of economic conditions, this would only be 1.5 percent real 
growth, far below the bi-partisan Nation Defense Strategy Commission 
recommendation of three to five percent real growth. If current levels 
of inflation persist into next fiscal year (latest figures showing 8.3 
percent), the Navy would be facing a 4.2 percent inflation-adjusted 
cut. Given these economic conditions, do you believe the fiscal year 
2023 budget in its current form is adequate for sustained capability 
and capacity growth?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The President's Budget 2023 
provides the right balance of capacity, lethality, modernization, and 
readiness needed to field the globally engaged and dominant naval force 
required by the National Defense Strategy. This budget will maximize 
the efficiency and effectiveness of each dollar entrusted to us by the 
American taxpayer, ensuring sufficient resources for today's 
challenges, while building future overmatch. Should additional 
resources or flexibility be needed to deliver the capability the Nation 
needs, the Department of the Navy will work with the President and 
Congress on those issues.

    77. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, attending the WEST 2022 
Conference in February of this year, you stated, ``I've concluded--
consistent with the analysis--that we need a naval force of over 500 
ships.'' In your statement submitted to this Committee, your write, `` 
. . . the Navy's size--our capacity--ultimately will be dictated by the 
budget's top line. We will not field a fleet larger than we can 
sustain.'' Given that the President's fiscal year 2023 budget provides 
for a fleet of 280 ships by the year 2027--a decrease of 5 ships from 
present day--do you believe the budget puts our Navy on the path of 
meeting the requirements you have outlined?
    Admiral Gilday. The fiscal year 2023 President's Budget delivers a 
combat-credible Navy designed to deter conflict and help win our 
Nation's wars as we maintain a global posture to assure our prosperity. 
Today's fiscal environment requires careful investments in capabilities 
and capacity that offer the most significant payoff and warfighting 
value for strategic competition, including focusing on capable capacity 
and not retaining platforms that are decreasingly relevant in modern 
warfare. To simultaneously modernize and build the capacity of our 
fleet, the Navy would need sustained budget growth at three to five 
percent above actual inflation.

    78. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, while attending the WEST 
2022 Conference in February of this year, Admiral Gilday, stated, 
``I've concluded--consistent with the analysis--that we need a naval 
force of over 500 ships.'' In Admiral Gilday's statement submitted to 
this Committee, he wrote, `` . . . the Navy's size--our capacity--
ultimately will be dictated by the budget's top line. We will not field 
a fleet larger than we can sustain.'' As you are aware, the President's 
fiscal year 2023 budget provides for a fleet of 280 ships by the year 
2027--a decrease of 5 ships from present day. Do you support a budget 
that fails to put our Navy on the path to meet the requirements 
outlined by the Chief of Naval Operations?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Chief of Naval Operations has clearly 
stated that his priorities are funding Columbia, readiness, capability, 
and then capable capacity only. The new era of strategic competition 
requires a modernized, capable, global, forward, and multi-domain Navy. 
In the fiscal year 2023 budget, the Navy prioritized promising 
technologies that need to be fielded quickly and at-scale to be 
operationally relevant in the coming years to ensure that the Navy 
meets Joint Force operational requirements, and made difficult choices 
to divest of ships that do not meaningfully support warfighting 
requirements. The President's Budget 2023 only grows warfighting 
capacity at a rate supported by the fiscal guidance and our ability to 
sustain that capacity in the future. Consistent with the Defense 
Planning Guidance, this plan does not resource any capacity beyond what 
can be sustained--manning, training, operations, and future 
modernization. Within the Future Years Defense Program, this careful 
prioritization in the near-term, in accordance with the Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance and National Defense Strategy, 
will result in a Navy battle force that is more ready, more 
sustainable, and more lethal.

    79. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, did you advocate in 
private for a higher budget for the Department of the Navy?
    Secretary Del Toro. I have consistently advocated for the 
President's Budget request as the right balance of capacity, lethality, 
modernization, and readiness needed to field the globally engaged and 
dominant naval force required by the National Defense Strategy.

    80. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, the Marine Corps has had 
to make significant divestitures to fund its force modernization. With 
these divestitures comes risk. Do you agree that the Marine Corps, and 
by extension, the Department of the Navy, would be assuming less risk 
if the President's fiscal year 2023 budget were more robust?
    Secretary Del Toro. I fully support the Marine Corps divestitures 
General Berger identified in Force Design 2030 and the President's 
Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Request. I work closely with other senior 
leaders to manage risk across the defense program.
 navy support for expeditionary advanced base operations and stand-in 
                                 forces
    81. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, at the May 11, 2022 hearing 
before the House, Representative Moulton asked you in regard to Force 
Design, ``[h]ow is the Navy preparing to support this concept and its 
implementation?'' To which you responded, ``We are doing it right now. 
I talked to the Naval Forces Europe Commander yesterday, and his 
headquarters has about 30 marines in their Joint Forces Maritime 
Component Cell, the Deputy Commander is a marine, the concept of 
operations signed by his 3-star fleet commander, Commander of U.S. 
Sixth Fleet, is also signed by the Commander of II MEF . . . '' While 
the collective buy-in between the headquarters is great, could you 
provide a few concrete examples of what that looks like in exercises 
and experimentation between operational elements that demonstrate this 
commitment?
    Admiral Gilday. There are two primary examples that are currently 
underway in the European theater; Task Force (TF) 61/2, and 
experimentation in support of the Commandant's Reconnaissance/ Counter 
reconnaissance (RXR).
    TF 61/2 is led by a Marine Corps General Officer and a Marine Corps 
Headquarters staff under tactical control of U.S Commander SIXTH Fleet 
(C6F). This task force is responsible for command and control of 
amphibious and Fleet Marine Forces task organized to C6F conducting 
operations, activities and investments (OAIs) within NAVEUR's area of 
operations. TF 61/2 is charged with enhancing C6F's Maritime Domain 
Awareness (MDA) while remaining capable of conducting crisis response 
operations. TF 61/2 successfully participated in five integrated 
exercises to date in 2022 improving the fleet's ability to employ 
naval, amphibious, and expeditionary forces in concert with our allies 
and partners. Operationally, Marine Corps Forces Europe are integrated 
with the C6F intelligence section and are directly contributing to 
expanding maritime domain awareness and intelligence security 
cooperation with our allies and partners.
    Incorporating multiple aspects of the Commandant's Force Design 
2030, the RXR elements in EUCOM provide C6F a stand-in Force, enhancing 
naval integration, and partner nation interoperability. While 
coordinating with multiple elements across the area of responsibility, 
the RXR marines tested and validated the ability of the Fleet Marine 
Forces to provide flexible, efficient, scalable, and task-organized 
forces to the Fleet Commander to enhance MDA and facilitate the kill 
chain within the littoral environment.
    The RXR forces conducted numerous exercises including a Force 
Reconnaissance Visit Board Search and Seizure (VBSS) interoperability 
event across a variety of C6F platforms aimed at executing multiple 
mission sets that focused on integrating, experimenting, and validating 
the Navy and Marine Corps sensor interoperability and maritime strike 
capabilities.

    82. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, in response to my questioning 
at the hearing, you stated that it would be hard to judge the Navy's 
commitment to Stand-in Forces because ``[m]ost of what has been written 
about publicly about Stand-in Forces, has been produced after the 
release of both those documents [the CNO NAVPLAN and Surface Warfare: 
The Competitive Edge].'' The Triservice maritime Strategy was released 
in December 2020, the CNO NAVPLAN was released in January 2021, and 
Surface Warfare: The Competitive Edge was released on January 2022. 
Force Design 2030 was released in March 2020 and The Concept for Stand-
In Forces was released in November 2021. There seems to have been ample 
time and opportunity for the navy to more explicitly address its roles 
and responsibilities in EABO and SIF. I was glad to hear that your 
upcoming strategy documents would more explicitly address the Navy's 
role in EABO and SIF. Will you commit to doing so in all relevant Navy 
documents released hereafter?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes.

    83. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, in your statement 
submitted to this Committee, you write, ``[s]uccessful implementation 
of the concepts within the Navigation Plan and Force Design 2030 will 
be pursued through a unified, integrated effort at every echelon.'' 
Building on the recently agreed upon amphibious warship requirement, as 
Secretary of the Navy, how will you continue to ensure this unity of 
effort at the fleet level, as well as before Congress?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy is improving 
integration through complementary operating concepts, an integrated POM 
development process, and wargaming efforts. Together with the Service 
Chiefs, I am committed to prioritizing unity of effort, at all levels, 
in order to sustain and advance naval strength and resilience.

    84. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, once the seizure of advanced 
naval bases is complete, do you assess the marines maintain sufficient 
combat power to go on the offensive in an extended land campaign?
    General Berger. Yes; the ongoing modernization efforts within the 
Marine Corps do not negate or detract from its ability to execute Title 
X responsibilities as the Nation's ``force in readiness.'' The 
capabilities of the current and future Marine Corps will enable to it 
conduct offensive operations, regardless of theater, from land, sea, 
and the littorals.

    85. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, Force Design 2030 
significantly reduces the assets of marine aviation by nearly 30 
percent. How will the remaining aviation assets support current global 
force management operations, as well as the combatant commander's 
operations plans?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps continues to provide high-end 
aviation capabilities globally. In the past year, the Marine Corps 
forward deployed 5th Generation TACAIR in INDOPACOM in support of 
integrated deterrence, 4th Generation TACAIR to assure our allies and 
deter our adversary in EUCOM, and MV-22s in support of crisis-response 
in AFRICOM. Additionally, the Marine Corps maintains the full suite of 
aviation capabilities found aboard our forward deployed ARG / MEUs 
which are afloat 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and 365 days a 
year. Our aviation transition process and reductions have been 
carefully balanced with the Service's Global Force Management 
requirements to continue to supply the Combatant Commanders with the 
required platforms while staying above the Department's 1:2 deployment 
to Dwell (D2D) threshold. Through a deliberate planning process, we can 
forecast that our pilots and crews will be able to maintain the 
targeted 1:2.7 D2D in even our most stressed communities (e.g., MV-22).

    86. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, will you commit to providing 
this Committee both classified and unclassified updates and briefings 
regarding the continued validation of Force Design?
    General Berger. Yes; my staff, my Deputy Commandants and their 
staffs, and I stand ready to provide updates and briefings, as 
requested by the Committee.
                      lessons learned from ukraine
    87. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, when discussion preliminary 
lessons learned from the conflict in Ukraine in your statement 
submitted to this Committee, you write, ``[i]f you are located on a 
modern battlefield saturated with sensors, you will be targeted. 
Signature management, maneuver, deception, and tempo are playing an 
increasingly important role on the modern battlefield.'' How will the 
Marine Littoral Regiments effectively manage their signature to 
maintain survivability in an environment saturated with PRC C5ISR?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps concept of operations is as a 
stand-in force that has the ability to gain and maintain custody of 
adversary targets--and hold some of those targets at risk continuously 
in support of targeting for the naval and joint force. We recognize 
that our value, largely, is in daily competition, building a strong 
coalition of partners, and being ready at a moment's notice to hold the 
adversary to task. In the realm of the defense, we recently finalized a 
functional concept which addresses integrated air and missile defense 
and force protection. These concepts reinforce the employment of 
systems which enable forces to leverage deception, mobility, and early 
detection in order to provide an additional layer of defense within the 
weapons engagement zone. While this functional concept--and its 
suggested force multiplying capabilities--require further development, 
planning, resourcing, training and a unified effort across the Naval 
Expeditionary Force, this concept will greatly strengthen our defensive 
and force protection capabilities. Meanwhile, we are also developing 
logistic capabilities to move small forces quickly and constantly in 
order to overcome the adversary's ability to find, fix, target and 
track us. Through enhanced signature management and decoy/deception 
capabilities, combined with high-mobility, we believe adversary weapons 
effects can be overcome.

    88. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what specific lessons have 
you taken away from the Russia-Ukraine conflict that validate Force 
Design 2030?
    General Berger. Although the situation in Ukraine is dynamic and 
concrete lessons will take time to develop, one lesson is clear. The 
quality of small unit leadership and the individual soldier is critical 
to tactical unit success. Force Design 2030 and annual updates are a 
portion of the overall Marine Corps' force modernization efforts. These 
modernization efforts include additional initiatives such as Talent 
Management 2030 and soon to be released Training and Education 2030. 
These modernization efforts prioritize individual marines and their 
leadership and establish specific initiatives to mature the force and 
increase individual and team effectiveness.
    Everything starts and ends with the individual marine. While much 
of the Force Design 2030 conversation revolves around materiel, 
modernization efforts are focused on training, educating and equipping 
the individual marine to succeed in competition and conflict.

    89. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what specific lessons have 
you taken away from the Russia-Ukraine conflict that necessitate a 
course correction of Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. Although the situation in Ukraine is dynamic and 
concrete lessons will take time to develop, one lesson is clear. The 
quality of small unit leadership and the individual soldier is critical 
to tactical unit success. Force Design 2030 and annual updates are a 
portion of the overall Marine Corps' force modernization efforts. These 
modernization efforts include additional initiatives such as Talent 
Management 2030 and the soon to be released Training and Education 
2030. These modernization efforts prioritize individual marines and 
their leadership and establish specific initiatives to mature the force 
and increase individual and team effectiveness.
    Everything starts and ends with the individual marine. While much 
of the Force Design 2030 conversation revolves around materiel, 
modernization efforts are focused on training, educating and equipping 
the individual marine to succeed in competition and conflict.

    90. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, what is the Navy learning 
from Ukraine's attempts to execute sea denial or otherwise strike 
Russian naval assets in the Black Sea?
    Admiral Gilday. Commanders must understand the capabilities of 
their adversary, their own vulnerabilities, and the operating 
environment. This is not a new lesson; one in which war at sea rapidly 
provides a harsh reminder. The Russian Federation Navy places a premium 
on capacity over readiness; their experience in the Black Sea 
illustrates this unbalanced investment in capacity to the detriment of 
force readiness or modernization results in failure.
    In contrast, and as I have stated on many occasions, I am fully 
committed to ensuring we maintain our readiness balance.
    The U.S. Navy plans for approximately 70 percent of the current 
force will still be in service a decade from now. Toward the Navy's 
goal of balancing investments between readiness and modernization, the 
USN Research and Development budget focuses on offensive technologies 
such as hypersonics, on the offensive and defensive benefits of quantum 
computing, on defensive directed energy, and high-power microwave 
capabilities to protect the fleet.
    If desired, we can have further discussions about Ukraine's sea 
denial or naval strike measures in a classified setting.
                    allies and partners integration
    91. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, do our allies and partners 
around the globe support the concept for Stand-in Forces and the role 
they'd play in its execution?
    General Berger. Many allied nations have expressed strong support 
for the concept for Stand-in Forces (SIF) and the role they would play 
in execution. Allies are actively working to ensure that they remain 
interoperable as we develop the concept and they transform their own 
forces for the future. As could be expected, partner nations are less 
committal about the SIF concept in terms of practical implementation, 
but they are usually receptive to the overall idea. We continue to 
interact with both allied and partner nations regarding the SIF concept 
via military-to-military engagement and capability development. This 
interaction stresses that interoperability with U.S. forces is critical 
to successful application of the SIF concept, and this ability to 
conduct combined operations enhances all nations' territorial defense.

    92. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how is the Marine Corps 
working with our allies and partners globally to ensure their seamless 
integration into the concept for Stand-in Forces?
    General Berger. Marine Forces Pacific, works with Allies, 
particularly in the first island chain and Australia, through several 
Joint and service exercises (e.g. TALISMAN SABRE, CCPT, BALIKATAN, KEEN 
EDGE, KEEN SWORD, KAMANDAG, and RIMPAC) to address integration with the 
concept of the SIF. Countries in the second island chain and beyond are 
increasingly the focus of integration into the concept of the Stand-in 
Forces (SIF). In regions with limited USMC posture, our forward-
deployed headquarters, such as Task Force 51/5th Marine Expeditionary 
Brigade in Bahrain, and Task Force 61/2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade 
in Italy, are stand-in elements, postured to rapidly transition to 
support crisis and contingency operations. These headquarters regularly 
interact with the allies and partners that operate every day as SIF in 
their regions. Additionally, our deployed Marine Air Ground Task 
Forces, such as the Marine Expeditionary Units that are in a continuous 
cycle of deployments world-wide, work closely on interoperability with 
a number of allies and partners during each deployment.
    The Marine Corps has formal interoperability roadmaps with several 
key allies and stresses interoperability enhancement in a broad array 
of interactions, to include exercises, staff talks, military-to-
military events, and personnel exchanges. These interoperability 
activities focus on SIF as an area of bilateral and military security 
cooperation against common threats.
                 vertical launch system (vls) capacity
    93. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, when 
you appeared before the House Armed Services Committee on May 10, 2022, 
Rep. Elaine Luria (D-VA) expressed her concerns to you both over the 
fleet's shrinking VLS capacity. I share the concerns she outlined. The 
charts included in your 30-year ship-building plan are on a scale of 
zero to twelve thousand and hides the actual decrease in about 1,980 
VLS cells through 2035. This is a significant decrease in our VLS 
capacity in a time of increased danger regarding a potential Taiwan 
scenario. How does the Navy plan to mitigate the risk associated with 
this decrease in VLS capacity?
    Secretary Del Toro. The new era of strategic competition requires a 
modernized, capable, global, forward, and multi-domain Navy. The 
National Defense Strategy (NDS) underscores the need for the Department 
of Defense to move away from systems that provide less capability and 
do not significantly support our strategy and ability to win in a 
future fight.
    In the fiscal year 2023 budget, the Navy prioritized promising 
technologies that need to be fielded quickly and at-scale to be 
operationally relevant in the coming years to ensure that the Navy 
meets Joint Force operational requirements, and made difficult choices 
to divest of ships that do not meaningfully support warfighting 
requirements.
    Admiral Gilday. There is a reduction in the number of Vertical 
Launching System (VLS) cells and it's a risk-reward decision. The Navy 
had to make a value decision of what it is going to take to get these 
older platforms with less capable combat systems forward versus what 
investments that we need to make that deliver a more capable, more 
lethal Navy in the future. This is also in the context that the United 
States Navy fights from the seabed to space; our submarines, our 
surface ships, and our aviation assets all contribute to the fight in 
addition to those platforms hosting VLS cells.
    Future fights against near-peer competitors require us to integrate 
the all-domain power of the fleet with the Joint Force and our allies 
and partners. Our fleet staffs are already fully integrating 
information warfare, space, cyber, and special operators, both Active 
and Reserve, into their teams to leverage the full power of our Navy.
                           bulk fuel storage
    94. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, given 
the Secretary of Defense's recent order to shut down the Red Hill Bulk 
Fuel Storage Facility on Oahu, Hawaii within the next 12 months, the 
Joint Force will need to find a way to replace the 250 million gallons 
of fuel storage capacity lost. While not well advertised, the Aleutian 
Island chain in Alaska is actually closer to many of our allies in the 
Indo-Pacific region than Hawaii, and should warrant serious 
consideration for additional bulk fuel storage capacity. What is your 
assessment of the potential utilization of the Alaska, specifically the 
Aleutian Island chain, for bulk fuel storage?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Senator, as you know, the 
Commander of United States Indo-Pacific Command is responsible for 
determining the operational and support requirements for his area of 
responsibility. My understanding is that INDOPACOM is currently 
shifting their posture to the west in order to more effectively compete 
with and deter China. The Navy, working through the Pacific Fleet, will 
continue to work with INDOPACOM and the Defense Logistics Agency to 
ensure its bulk fuel needs to support the combatant commander are met.

    95. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, will 
you commit to look into the feasibility and strategic implications of 
bulk fuel storage in Alaska to augment joint force logistics?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Senator, as you know, the 
Commander of United States Indo-Pacific Command is responsible for 
determining the operational and support requirements for his area of 
responsibility. My understanding is that INDOPACOM is currently 
shifting their posture to the west in order to more effectively compete 
with and deter China. The Navy, working through the Pacific Fleet, will 
continue to work with INDOPACOM and the Defense Logistics Agency to 
ensure its bulk fuel needs to support the combatant commander are met.
                                 aukus
    96. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, what 
are the most significant opportunities you see for the U.S. Navy 
resulting from the AUKUS agreement?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Australia-United 
Kingdom-United States partnership, or AUKUS, is foremost committed to 
providing Australia with military capabilities. Through the 
partnership, the three nations reaffirmed their commitment to a free 
and open Indo-Pacific and more broadly to an international system that 
respects human rights, the rule of law, and the peaceful resolution of 
disputes free from coercion. Through ongoing trilateral consultation to 
determine the optimal pathway for an Australian conventionally armed, 
nuclear-powered submarine capability, the U.S. Navy has enhanced 
relationships with British and Australian counterparts at leader, 
program, and force development levels. Other regional posture decisions 
or naval operations will continue through standing U.S. authorities and 
agreements.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                      sea-launched cruise missile
    97. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Gilday, what are the short- and 
long-term implications of eliminating SLCM-N? What additional risk do 
you take on without the capability SLCM-N would provide?
    Admiral Gilday. Commander, USSTRATCOM owns the operational risk to 
his POTUS assigned missions based on capabilities the Services provide. 
The gap in current and future nuclear capabilities between the United 
States and Russia is in regional nuclear capabilities, those 
capabilities not governed by New START, the ``non-treaty accountable 
weapons'' or tactical nuclear weapons.
    For our deterrent to be effective, it must have sufficient 
capability, capacity, and credibility to give the adversary pause. We 
do not have to match one-for-one or enter a new arms race, but we must 
have the tools to make Russia, and any other adversary, carefully 
consider their actions. The risk of mission failure belongs to the 
STRATCOM commander. The Services must provide the tools so he can 
provide the President options across the spectrum of potential nuclear 
escalation.

    98. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Gilday, you referenced a 
``particular gap'' in capabilities that SLCM-N would fill. 
Specifically, please articulate this ``particular gap.''
    Admiral Gilday. When I refer to a particular gap that the SLCM-N 
capability could fill, I am referring to capabilities our adversaries 
possess along the escalation ladder where we have limited or no 
corresponding capability. The U.S. has a very limited number of nuclear 
weapons not governed by New START. Our key nuclear adversary has 
significant capability in the area of ``non-treaty accountable'' 
nuclear weapons. Our emerging nuclear adversary, while not restrained 
by a similar treaty, continues to develop a spectrum of capabilities 
with a wide range of yields and delivery options.
    SLCM-N is not the single solution to this gaps, but if it is 
developed into a credible and deployable capability it could integrate 
with other capabilities, both conventional and nuclear, to provide an 
effective spectrum of deterrence options for the President.
                       navy tactical cyber teams
    99. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Gilday, what is the status of the 
development of the ``small tactical cyber teams'' created under your 
direction?
    Admiral Gilday. Though not yet funded, I am developing this 
capability internally by aligning requirements, capabilities and 
doctrine in preparation for future investment. Specifically, the Naval 
Information Warfighting Development Center (NIWDC) published TACMEMO 6-
03.5-21 Maritime Enabled Cyberspace Operations (MECO), describing the 
tactics, techniques, and procedures for cyberspace missions conducted 
by naval forces for the completion of tactical-level actions or tasks 
in support of commanders' desired end state. With this doctrine as a 
backdrop, I initiated a working group of stakeholders and subject 
matter experts to develop and refine the manpower, capabilities, 
command and control, and resources needed to deliver this capability.

    100. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Gilday, how specifically is the 
Navy working towards the desired end state of providing cyber operators 
to support the fleet mission?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy cyber operators are trained utilizing the 
joint training standards of USCYBERCOM and USSOCOM, then provided to 
USCYBERCOM and USSOCOM in support of joint force requirements, 
including Cyber Mission Force (CMF). Navy requirements for cyber 
operators are satisfied through a Request for Forces (RFF) process to 
the joint force. Question 99 addresses Navy efforts towards Navy 
tactical cyber teams.
                          contested logistics
    101. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, to successfully operate 
within the first and second island chains, how is the Marine Corps 
adequately sustaining, moving, and maneuvering forces in this 
environment?
    General Berger. With an increasingly contested operational 
environment, our logistics efforts from the tactical edge to the 
homeland will have to fundamentally change. We are pursuing a range of 
material capabilities to diversify and modernize our logistics 
portfolio that are all aligned to a contested littoral environment. At 
the tactical level, we are testing and assessing several platforms that 
will enable us to transition to a diverse collection of crewed and 
uncrewed air and ground platforms. These platforms are smaller and 
cheaper while collectively resulting in a more resilient distribution 
network of platforms and connectors. In addition to our efforts to 
generate, store, and distribute renewable energy forward, these 
platforms will exploit rapidly moving technologies that the Department 
and our industry partners are pursuing. We will decrease our dependence 
on vulnerable fuel supply chains while delivering critical commodities 
via the naval and joint logistics enterprise across the Pacific, 
despite enemy sensing and targeting capabilities. The most visible 
platforms will be a family of uncrewed logistics air systems, the 
smallest of which we are already prototyping and conducting live 
experimentation. Our experimentation is yielding exciting results that 
underscore the need to expand into large and medium uncrewed logistics 
systems. Additionally, we will explore options to replace our ground 
logistics fleet with a smaller, lighter, fuel-efficient replacement. We 
are now exploring emerging technologies to deliver capable, yet 
affordable vehicles that reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

    102. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, how can unconventional 
inter-theater connectors such as commercially available ships be part 
of sustaining, moving, and maneuvering forces?
    General Berger. Commercially available ships can provide 
flexibility and redundancy to our sustainment and distribution 
networks. Leveraging these capabilities strengthens our relationships 
with commercial partners and provides additional capacity.
                              shipbuilding
    103. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Del Toro, as the Navy navigates 
lessons learned from working within its share of the defense budget 
rather than assessing how many ships it needs to determine the budget, 
what risks do these gaps highlight that the industrial base can create?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Navy recognizes the importance of a secure 
and solid industrial base, and we are collectively working to 
capitalize on the gains and partnerships that are being fostered across 
government, industry, and academic spheres as we look to preserve our 
capability to innovate and execute faster and better than anyone else. 
Expanding infrastructure and the capabilities of suppliers results in 
greater stability, cost savings, and improved efficiency as production 
increases to build. The Navy continues to assess and make strategic 
investments to address risks, establish second sources, and minimize 
disruptions in key market areas using resources such as Defense 
Production Act Title III, capital expenditure investments, and supplier 
development funding.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
    104. Senator Hawley. Secretary Del Toro, A Cooperative Strategy for 
21st Century Seapower directed the sea services to ``employ the global 
reach, persistent presence, and operational flexibility inherent in 
U.S. seapower.'' It also found that ``[t]here is a tension, however, 
between the requirements for continued peacetime engagement and 
maintaining proficiency in the critical skills necessary to fighting 
and winning in combat.'' What is the tension between requirements for 
peacetime presence and readiness for warfighting?
    Secretary Del Toro. Both ``A Cooperative Strategy for 21st Century 
Seapower'' (2007) and the more recent ``Tri-Service Maritime Strategy, 
Advantage at Sea: Prevailing with Integrated All-Domain Naval Power'' 
(2020) reference a tension between near-term presence demand and 
warfighting readiness. Day-to day presence strengthens alliances and 
partnerships and demonstrates U.S. capabilities and global reach, but 
with finite resources and time available to train, operating forward 
can often come at the expense of joint warfighting training. This 
tension is manifested in competing time demands: The more time spent 
training and making ready, the more powerful the force, but with less 
time available for showing the force through presence. I recognize the 
importance of both and am committed to achieving balance between these 
two national security imperatives.

    105. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, Admiral Conn acknowledged last 
week that the Navy is ``taking risk in VLS [strike capacity] between 
now and about 2030.'' But when I asked him how the Navy plans to manage 
that risk, he couldn't offer any specifics. Why is the Navy choosing 
now to accept all this risk in strike capacity as opposed to waiting 
until we're through what DOD leaders agree is a period of significantly 
increased risk of Chinese aggression?
    Admiral Gilday. There is a reduction in the number of VLS cells and 
it's a risk reward decision. The Navy had to make a value decision of 
what it's going to take to get these older platforms with less capable 
combat systems forward versus what investments that we need to make 
which deliver a more capable, more lethal Navy in the future. This is 
also in the context that the United States Navy fights from the seabed 
to space, our submarines, our surface ships and aviation assets all 
contribute to the fight in addition to those platforms hosting VLS 
cells.
    The new era of strategic competition requires a modernized, 
capable, global, forward, and multi-domain Navy. The National Defense 
Strategy (NDS) underscores the need for DOD to move away from systems 
that provide less capability and do not significantly support our 
strategy and ability to win in a future fight.
    In the fiscal year 2023 budget, Navy prioritized promising 
technologies that need to be fielded quickly and at scale to be 
operationally relevant in the coming years to ensure that Navy meets 
Joint Force operational requirements, and made difficult choices to 
divest of ships that do not meaningfully support warfighting 
requirements.

    106. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, how does this loss of VLS 
strike capacity impact the Navy's ability to meet operational 
requirements for DOD's pacing scenario between now and 2030?
    Admiral Gilday. This new era of strategic competition requires a 
modernized, capable, global, forward, and multi-domain Navy. The 
National Defense Strategy (NDS) underscores the need for DOD to move 
away from systems that provide less capability and do not significantly 
support our strategy and ability to win in a future fight. The Navy 
made difficult choices to divest of ships that do not meaningfully 
support the warfighting requirements.
    In the fiscal year 2023 budget, Navy prioritized promising 
technologies that need to be fielded quickly and at scale to be 
operationally relevant in the coming years to ensure that Navy meets 
Joint Force operational requirements.
    Future fights against strategic competitors require us to integrate 
the all-domain power of the fleet with the Joint Force and our allies 
and partners. Our fleet staffs are already fully integrating 
information warfare, space, cyber, and special operators, both Active 
and Reserve, into their teams to leverage the full power of our Navy.

    107. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, there's a consensus that we've 
got to be able to quickly sink large numbers of Chinese ships in and 
around the Taiwan Strait if we're going to be able to deny a Chinese 
fait accompli against Taiwan, and the U.S. Navy's going to be a key 
part of that effort. Will the Navy's ability to sink Chinese ships in 
the Taiwan Strait increase or decrease over the next 7 years? Please 
provide an explanation for your response.
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy's ability to sink PLA(N) ships in the 
Taiwan Strait will increase in both count and efficiency by developing 
and procuring more effective and appropriate kill chains and munitions 
for the expected threats. The Navy is investing in increased combat 
lethality through more advanced payloads, such as Maritime Strike 
Tomahawk, Long Range Anti-Surface Missile, hypersonics, torpedo 
advancements, and Standard Missile Block 1B. The Navy will improve 
overall kill chain performance with the realization of Maritime 
Targeting Cell capability and Naval operational Architecture in the 
middle of this decade, as well as an array of counter-C5ISRT 
capabilities. F-35 and F/A-18 E/F modifications will improve aircraft 
survivability and combat effectiveness. MQ-25 Unmanned carrier-based 
aircraft will increase the strike range, capability, and lethality of 
the Carrier Air Wing. The Extra Large Unmanned Undersea Vessel will 
achieve initial capability in 2025 and will be capable of multiple 
missions, including mine warfare. Three mining programs--Clandestine 
Delivered Mine (CDM), Hammerhead Encapsulated Effector, and the 
Quickstrike Extended Range (QS-ER)--will all be fielded in the next 7 
years.

    108. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, you said in February that 
``I've concluded--consistent with the analysis--that we need a naval 
force of over 500 ships'' to execute the National Defense Strategy. 
Does it remain your opinion that the Navy needs a force of 500 ships to 
implement the National Defense Strategy? Please provide an explanation 
for your response.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, based on past and ongoing force structure 
analysis, it is my best military advice that the size of the Navy grow 
to a 500-ship hybrid fleet by 2045. America needs a modern strategic 
deterrent; greater numbers of undersea capabilities; more distributable 
surface combatants; a host of manned, unmanned, and optionally-manned 
platforms--under, on, and above the seas; and a resilient logistics 
enterprise to sustain our distributed naval force. Integrated with the 
Joint Force and interoperable with our allies and partners, this all-
domain, hybrid fleet will ensure our maritime superiority.
    However, I have consistently said that the Navy's size--our 
capacity--ultimately will be dictated by the budget's top line. We will 
not field a fleet larger than we can sustain. We also will not grow the 
Navy at the expense of building the Columbia--our top acquisition 
priority. Nor will we increase capacity by failing to modernize and 
sacrificing our combat credibility. Therefore, our focus is on 
delivering capable capacity.

    109. Senator Hawley. General Berger, the Force Design Annual Update 
also acknowledges that the Marine Corps previously ``focused the Marine 
Littoral Regiment too much on lethality and not enough on sensing, the 
ability to make sense, maneuverability, and deception.'' Can you 
elaborate on this lesson learned?
    General Berger. To be clear, lethality will always be important. A 
credible capability to hold an adversary's high value assets at risk is 
an essential ingredient of deterrence. That being said, our Campaign of 
Learning over the past 2 years has steadily reinforced the importance 
of other capabilities we are providing to our Stand-in Forces. Such 
forces, positioned well forward and in close proximity to an adversary, 
can gain and maintain custody of targets, sharing information with 
other elements of the Joint force, as well as coalition partners, thus 
enabling the closing of kill webs in such a way as to significantly 
enhance the versatility and lethality of all forces.
    Similarly, our Campaign of Learning has provided insights regarding 
the value of maneuver and deception. First, Stand-in Forces must be 
able to move rapidly, so as to gain and maintain positional advantage 
against an adversary that is likewise mobile. Second, our Stand-in 
Forces must leverage deception capabilities that will confuse the 
enemy's detection and targeting assets, thus providing us an advantage 
in the ``hider-finder'' competition.

    110. Senator Hawley. General Berger, what are some of the other key 
lessons learned thus far in the Force Design 2030 campaign, and how can 
Congress help you to adjust course as you identify and incorporate 
these lessons?
    General Berger. First, we believe have established an enduring 
process to responsibly modernize. By instituting a campaign of learning 
around a threat informed, concept based approached to capability 
development allows for continuous refinement of the force. Second, 
feedback from the fleet operating forces is a critical element in our 
historical combat development process and is integral to our Force 
Design approach today. As part of the May 2022 Force Design Annual 
Update, the Marine Corps will be updating the Service Level 
Experimentation Campaign Plan and publish an unclassified version no 
later than 30 June 2022. Lastly, the National Defense Strategy 
recognizes the military must be ready for a 21st century conflict 
against a near pear adversary. The Marine Corps is grateful for the 
support from Congress and will continue to ask the same as we modernize 
at speed to meet the current threat.

    111. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, last year the Navy testified 
to the Seapower Subcommittee that it is developing a capability to 
reload VLS at sea. What is the status of that program?
    Admiral Gilday. We currently employ Expeditionary Reload Teams 
(ERT) to perform the Surface VLS Reload mission in austere or non-
traditional locations. CRUDES VLS demonstrations to rearm pierside and 
at anchor by an Offshore Support Vessel are anticipated in late fiscal 
year 2022; a T-AKE Rearm effort will start in fiscal year 2023 and 
continue into fiscal year 2024 to develop and demonstrate a capability 
to rearm CRUDES VLS and submarine heavyweight torpedoes.
    From the Navy Expeditionary Combat Command (NECC)'s Navy 
Expeditionary Logistics Support Group (NAVELSG) we employ ERT to 
perform the Surface VLS Reload mission in austere or non-traditional 
locations (where minimal or no infrastructure support exists). The ERTs 
will play an important role in the Rearm-at-Sea initiative, 
specifically operating the Strike-Up/Strike-Down (SUDS) system being 
developed by the Office of Naval Research (ONR) and Naval Surface 
Warfare Center, Carderock Division (NSWC CD) for VLS Reload at 
anchorage or potentially underway, as well as other skin-to-skin 
evolutions (T-AKE-DDG/CG) which blends with the Navy Cargo Handling 
Battalion (NCHB) Surface Cargo handling capability.
    The Next Generation Logistics TTP Ship (NTS or MV Ocean Valor) was 
chartered starting in fiscal year 2021 and will demonstrate many 
logistics missions for refuel, rearm, and resupply. For VLS rearm 
demonstration to date, a pierside and at anchor VLS rearming event was 
planned for May 2022 but subsequently postponed due to CRUDES 
scheduling conflicts. Efforts are underway to reschedule. In fiscal 
year 2023, the project is currently funded at $0.0 million for VLS 
rearm. Future VLS rearm events may occur with additional funding. 
Charter for MV Ocean Valor concludes fiscal year 2025.
    T-AKE Rearm research and development efforts commence in fiscal 
year 2023 and continue into fiscal year 2024. The R&D efforts will 
determine the feasibility and material solutions for a T-AKE to 
successfully rearm CRUDES VLS and submarine heavyweight torpedoes. In 
fiscal year 2023, the project is funded at $3.3 million.

    112. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, do you continue to believe a 
VLS reload capability is desirable for the surface Navy, given a 
disadvantage in strike capacity vis-a-vis the Peoples Liberation Army 
Navy?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, Vertical Launch System (VLS) reload is a 
highly desirable capability for the Surface Navy.
    We currently employ Expeditionary Reload Teams (ERT) from Naval 
Cargo Handling Battalions (NCHB) to perform the Surface VLS Reload 
mission in austere or non-traditional locations. CRUDES VLS 
demonstrations to rearm pierside and at anchor by an Offshore Support 
Vessel by the ERT are anticipated in late fiscal year 2022; a T-AKE 
Rearm effort with the ERT will start in fiscal year 2023 and continue 
into fiscal year 2024 to develop and demonstrate a capability to rearm 
CRUDES VLS.

    113. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, the press reports that the 
Navy rejected a 2020 proposal for a fifth shipyard in the Great Lakes 
region and remains concerned about a revised proposal. Given a shipyard 
capacity shortfall, why did the Navy evaluate this unfavorably, and 
does the Navy intend to pursue any further options for a fifth 
shipyard?
    Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy is committed to ensuring 
its public shipyards have the resources needed to execute the submarine 
and aircraft carrier sustainment and modernization missions. The Navy 
is making a once-in-a-century investment with the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program (SIOP) that will fully update and 
upgrade the dry docks, infrastructure, and capital equipment at the 
Navy's four public shipyards that conduct depot-level maintenance on 
the Navy's submarines and aircraft carriers. The Navy is executing the 
Shipyard Performance-to-Plan and Naval Sustainment System--Shipyard 
efforts to better define and analyze current performance gaps, better 
predict operational readiness, drive efficiencies into shipyard 
processes, and eliminate barriers to productivity. While the current 
Los Angeles and Virginia-class submarine maintenance backlog is 
impacting current overall readiness, the above efforts are critical to 
ensuring future maintenance execution supports Navy readiness needs.
    I am confident that these efforts, along with continued 
collaboration and partnership with industry, will provide the capacity 
and capability at the four Naval shipyards necessary to execute 
submarine maintenance to meet or exceed the operational needs of the 
Fleet. Therefore, I do not foresee the need in the mid or long term for 
establishing additional nuclear submarine capable shipyards.
    The Navy has not conducted any recent studies focused on executing 
nuclear submarine maintenance at new shipyards. Instead, we are 
utilizing SIOP and Performance-to-Plan and Naval Sustainment System--
Shipyard to upgrade the four naval shipyards so that they can execute 
maintenance availabilities on time every time.

    114. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, how confident are you that we 
will retain our advantage in undersea warfare vis-a-vis the Chinese? 
Please provide an explanation for your response.
    Admiral Gilday. I am very confident in the United States Navy's 
undersea advantage against strategic competitors such as the People's 
Republic of China. Our Submarine Force and Undersea Warfare programs 
continue to represent the most technologically advanced systems in the 
world. From our Virginia-class submarines with Acoustic Superiority 
upgrades, our modern P-8 Maritime Patrol Aircraft, or our multi-purpose 
Arleigh Burke Destroyers, the United States Navy continues to modernize 
and advance our undersea capabilities. However, one of our greatest 
advantages that our adversaries cannot match is the operational 
excellence and experience of our sailors that operate these platforms 
and systems.

    115. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, under what conditions would 
you begin to worry that the Chinese might be seriously eroding our 
advantage in the undersea domain?
    Admiral Gilday. The PRC has stated their desire to improve their 
undersea warfare capabilities. Over the last 5 years, we have seen 
evidence of their efforts through an increase in the number and quality 
of sensors, weapons, and platforms capable of exploiting this domain. 
The strength of People's Liberation Army-Navy, PLA(N), is their ability 
to rapidly produce weapon systems and supporting sensors and platforms. 
They still have key gaps, most notably their sailors lack the 
proficiency and experience to exploit their maritime capabilities to a 
level that would threaten our undersea dominance. For the PLA(N) to 
seriously erode our advantage would require improvements in all of 
their systems (sensors, weapons, and platforms) and a demonstrated, 
consistent proficiency with command and control and tactical 
exploitation using those systems.
    Every advancement that PLA-N makes has the potential to erode our 
advantage in the undersea domain unless we match or exceed it. It is 
vital that we maintain the commitment to our plans, programs, and 
operations to ensure we do not cede the advantages we currently have. 
We should be constructively dissatisfied with any potential loss of 
overmatch, and are committed to maintaining our dominance in the 
undersea domain giving us an asymmetric advantage over the PLA(N).
    I welcome the opportunity to brief you at the classified level with 
more specifics, if you desire.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                            ship maintenance
    116. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, I 
understand that there is a debate over whether the industrial base has 
the capacity to support our ship maintenance workload. Is there 
currently a maintenance backlog for ships needing repairs in the U.S.?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Yes, the Total Backlog for 
the surface ships needing repair is $2.3 billion across the Future 
Years Defense Program, $535 million of this Total Backlog is based on 
known deferred maintenance and is executable as it was loaded into the 
Navy's forecasted workload in the Port Loading Charts. The remaining 
$1.8 billion of this Total Backlog applies to ships proposed to 
decommission (as of 1 June 2022).

    117. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, 
recent Department of Defense budgets have included funds to upgrade the 
public naval shipyards, but have not invested in needed upgrades to 
private shipyards, who are essential partners in maintaining our ships 
and ensuring fleet readiness. What are your thoughts on encouraging the 
expansion of private shipyards to be ready for the future fleet?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Investment in private sector 
shipyards is required to repair and maintain the future fleet. These 
necessary investments range from shore power upgrades to dry dock 
procurement.
    In an effort to expand and evolve the repair industrial base to 
meet the needs of the future fleet, the Navy seeks to promote growth 
through a series of tiered levers. These levers could include 
communication of demand for private investment, Navy-industry 
partnership, or Navy investment. The approach to any given requirement 
varies based on a number of factors including port specific 
considerations, stability of demand, future growth, project risk, and 
barriers to entry.



  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         THURSDAY, MAY 19, 2022

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

 THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION 
                  ON ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Kelly, 
Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, 
Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the Department of Energy's Atomic Energy 
Defense programs in review of the Fiscal Year 2023 President's 
Defense Budget Request.
    I would like to welcome our witnesses, Secretary of Energy 
Jennifer Granholm and Administrator of the National Nuclear 
Security Administration Jill Hruby. Thank you for joining us. I 
also want to thank your Department's workforce for their 
dedicated service to our nation. Please relay that to them.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for the defense 
functions of the Department of Energy is $29.7 billion. This 
figure accounts for about 61 percent of the Department of 
Energy's overall $48 billion request. Given the share of the 
defense function of the Department's budget, it is important 
for this committee to continue its oversight of the 
Department's defense activities, which span items like 
maintaining our nuclear stockpile to cleaning up former Cold 
War defense production sites.
    Within this defense proposal, the National Nuclear Security 
Administration, or NNSA, is requesting $21.4 billion, a 3.2 
percent increase over last year's level of $20.6 billion. I 
would also note that the amount for the defense portion of 
environmental cleanup increased by 3 percent to $6.9 billion.
    The Strategic Forces Subcommittee held a hearing 2 weeks 
ago on the Nuclear Weapons Council, a statutory body that was 
created in the 1946 Atomic Energy Act to bridge the civilian-
military relationship over the manufacturing and employment of 
nuclear weapons. By all accounts the message conveyed to the 
subcommittee was that the relationship between the Department 
of Defense and the National Nuclear Security Administration was 
healthy and productive.
    However, with respect to the Department's requirement to 
increase production of plutonium pits to a rate of 80 pits per 
year by 2030, the subcommittee found several issues. 
Significantly, the costs for converting the Mixed Oxide Fuel 
plant at the Savannah River Site have risen significantly from 
$4 billion to between $6 and $11 billion. Further, the project 
timeline stretched from the 2030 target to between 2032 or 
2035. We need to understand what has driven these overruns and 
how we can hold the Department of Energy accountable to this 
longstanding Department of Defense requirement.
    I understand that the NNSA is experiencing its highest 
workload since the 1980s as it manages five major warhead 
programs while rebuilding nuclear infrastructure that dates 
back 70 years to the Manhattan Project. This original 
infrastructure held up well through the first two cycles of 
triad modernization in the 1960s and 1980s, but it has 
essentially aged out for the third cycle that we are currently 
undertaking. I would like to know how NNSA is managing this 
workload while simultaneously modernizing its production 
facilities.
    Finally, I hope our witnesses will update us on efforts to 
continue cleaning up former defense production sites, 
particularly at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. These are 
commitments made to local communities that we cannot walk away 
from. The Hanford site has 177 million gallons of radioactive 
waste stored in underground tanks, some which are leaking. Your 
Department is starting operations to remove the first 40 
percent of low-activity radioactive waste from these tanks, 
which accounts for 90 percent of the waste, and I commend you 
on this important milestone. I understand you are also holding 
discussions with the State of Washington on how to next remove 
the high-activity radioactive waste in the tanks. I would ask 
that you share how you are working with the state and local 
communities on these efforts.
    Again, I want to thank our witnesses for appearing today. I 
look forward to your testimonies.
    Now let me recognize the ranking member, Senator Inhofe.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you Mr. Chairman. I also want to 
welcome our witnesses. We have had the privilege of being with 
our witnesses on other issues in the past, and I am honored to 
have them here today.
    One of the things I have been proud of over the past few 
years is this committee's focus on rebuilding the foundation of 
United States national security, our nation's nuclear 
deterrent. We have made a lot of progress in this area over the 
past several years, but even that progress is just the first 
step in a long journey to make up for decades of neglect.
    A third of NNSA's facilities date back to World War II, and 
we have buildings where concrete has fallen from the ceiling. 
It has hit some of the workers. People are shocked when they 
hear of these things. We have to do better, and I think we all 
understand that.
    In contrast, our adversaries clearly see value in 
prioritizing their nuclear programs. Our lack of focus on 
competing in the nuclear arena puts us in danger of falling 
even further behind, and puts our nation and our allies at 
risk.
    China is expanding its military capabilities faster than 
any country in history. Its investments are shifting the global 
balance of power, and based on recent testimony, China's 
nuclear modernization continues to outpace even our worst 
predictions.
    Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and his reckless 
threats of nuclear escalation have shattered the security of 
Europe, and for the first time in decades, forced Americans to 
face the possibility of a nuclear attack.
    Not to be outdone, North Korea is on a record pace for 
missile testing, and is reportedly preparing for another 
nuclear test.
    Unfortunately, the Administration's fiscal year 2023 DoD 
budget does not give DoD and NNSA the real growth they need to 
meet the National Defense Strategy. While we agreed on real 
growth last year, inflation has completely destroyed that.
    In fact, I have a letter from the administrator that says 
our plutonium pit production project is underfunded by $500 
million. This is the letter, and I want to make this a part of 
the record at this point.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]
      
    
    
    Senator Inhofe. In fact, we feel that this tells the whole 
story.
    I look forward to your testimony on these issues and the 
rest of the Department of Energy's national security 
priorities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Secretary Granholm, please.

  STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JENNIFER GRANHOLM, SECRETARY OF 
                             ENERGY

    Secretary Granholm. Thank you so much, Chairman Reed and 
Ranking Member Inhofe. My thanks also to the members of the 
committee. It is a privilege to be before you once again on 
behalf of the Department of Energy and with Jill Hruby, our 
NNSA Administrator and the Under Secretary of Nuclear Security.
    As the 16th Secretary of Energy, I have the responsibility 
of leading this Department at a pivotal time. Putin's invasion 
of Ukraine, the outbreak of armed conflict on the European 
continent has underscored the absolute importance of the 
Department's national security mission. We appreciate the 
consistent, bipartisan support that the Senate Armed Services 
Committee has long given the Department when it comes to this 
mission, and we believe this committee will see in this latest 
budget request our resolute commitment to advancing that 
national security mission.
    I am pleased to note that the partnership between the 
Department and our NNSA, our National Nuclear Security 
Administration, is strong, it is collaborative, and likewise, 
we continue to work closely with our colleagues at the 
Department of Defense through the Nuclear Weapons Council.
    As security risks rise around the world, we know we must 
ensure that the nation's ability to respond to threats remains 
unmatched. At the same time, we know that our focus on 
responsiveness must be paired with one of responsibility. Our 
efforts begin, of course, with maintaining the safety, 
security, reliability, and effectiveness of the nuclear weapons 
stockpile. This is the cornerstone of our deterrent. It is 
critical to our ability to protect the American people and 
reassure our allies.
    Relatedly, our work to provide the U.S. Navy with safe and 
effective nuclear propulsion technology is essential to 
ensuring that our military is equipped to carry out their 
operations.
    Ultimately, though, we know that the nation is safer, and 
our deterrent is stronger, and our military is more effective 
when facing lower nuclear risks, and that is why we invest in 
nonproliferation and arms control and in efforts to counter the 
threat of nuclear terrorism. As the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review 
makes clear, each of these stock--stockpile management, naval 
propulsion, and nuclear risk reduction--are all top priorities 
for the Biden administration. Our budget request for fiscal 
year 2023 echoes this Administration's dedicated support for 
each.
    Let me just spend a minute to highlight a few other areas 
that are reflected in the budget request. First is taking care 
of the communities that have supported the nation's nuclear 
weapons programs and nuclear research. The Department's Office 
of Environmental Management is home to the world's largest 
environmental cleanup program. The program has completed 
operations at 92 of 107 cleanup sites over the past 30 years, 
and our environmental management team reached important 
milestones even this past 2 years, with contending with 
challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic. Our budget request 
will equip them with the resources they need to continue 
building on that track record.
    Second, infrastructure modernization and workforce 
development. As my colleague, Jill Hruby, will explain in 
greater detail, the NNSA is focused on mission delivery in a 
timely and cost-effective manner. Infrastructure and workforce 
are essential this goal. Approximately 60 percent of NNSA 
facilities are beyond their 40-year life expectancy, some, as 
has been noted, date back to the Manhattan Project. But our 
ability to execute our mission depends on a modern, flexible, 
and resilient nuclear security infrastructure, and that is why 
that means we have to continue to bring more of these 
facilities into the 21st century.
    We also have to make sure that we have top-notch talent to 
staff those facilities, by recruiting and training a new 
generation of employees across our national security portfolio. 
That is why we have requested investments in both our 
infrastructure and our workforce needs.
    I am mindful of the trust that this committee and the rest 
of Congress has placed in the Department, and I am proud to 
lead this team as we reduce nuclear risk while navigating an 
increasingly complex global environment. I thank you for your 
partnership in keeping the United States safe and secure, and 
we look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Madam Secretary.
    Administrator Hruby, please.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JILL HRUBY, ADMINISTRATOR, NATIONAL 
                NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
and members of the committee for the opportunity to appear 
before you. As Secretary Granholm said, we appreciate the 
committee's consistent, bipartisan support for the Department 
of Energy's enduring national security missions.
    Today we face a shifting geopolitical environment, rapidly 
evolving technological capabilities and modernization needs 
that are expanding our mission requirements. Meeting these 
challenges on behalf of the American people requires us to act 
in a responsive and responsible manner.
    To reach our objectives we are simultaneously executing our 
largest weapon modernization program in decades, while 
recapitalizing our infrastructure and investing in cutting-edge 
scientific, engineering, and technical capabilities. We are 
also providing critical resources to our nonproliferation, 
counterproliferation, and naval nuclear propulsion programs 
that play an important, complementary role to our weapons 
programs. We feel a sense of urgency in achieving our 
objectives and will act to meet our goals in a timely and cost-
effective manner.
    The challenges ahead are significant, but I am confident in 
the Department's ability to rise to the occasion, in 
partnership with Congress and our colleagues in the Departments 
of State, Defense, Homeland Security, and around the world.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of Secretary Jennifer M. 
Granholm and The Honorable Jill M. Hruby follows:]

  Joint Prepared Statement by Secretary Jennifer M. Granholm and The 
                        Honorable Jill M. Hruby
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and esteemed Members of the 
Committee, it is an honor for us to appear before you today on behalf 
of the Department of Energy (DOE) and National Nuclear Security 
Administration (NNSA). We recognize and appreciate the Committee's 
consistent support for DOE's enduring national security missions.
    As the 16th Secretary of Energy and the 8th Under Secretary for 
Nuclear Security, we have the privilege and responsibility of leading 
the Department at a pivotal time. We recognize the importance of moving 
decisively to strengthen America's nuclear security through its defense 
modernization, nonproliferation, naval propulsion, and environmental 
cleanup efforts. As the solutions department we are ready to overcome 
the challenges and deliver results.
    The nation's nuclear weapons stockpile remains the cornerstone of 
our deterrent and a key tool in reassuring our allies. We must remain 
committed to the safety, security, reliability, and effectiveness of 
the nuclear weapons stockpile through sustainment and modernization 
efforts, infrastructure recapitalization, and the rigorous application 
of cutting-edge science and technology. We recognize that our deterrent 
is more effective when nuclear risks are reduced. Therefore, the 
Department works diligently to prevent the proliferation of nuclear 
weapons and prevent terrorist and other non-State actors from acquiring 
nuclear and other radiological material. Additionally, the Department 
provides the U.S. Navy's submarines and aircraft carriers with 
militarily effective nuclear propulsion plants and continues to test 
and provide for their safety, reliability, and longevity. The 
Department recognizes the Administration's strong support for these 
programs as outlined in the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review and the 
President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget.
    The Fiscal Year 2023 Budget reflects the Administration's 
commitment to protecting our national security, cleaning up legacy 
pollution from historic nuclear activities, and transitioning the U.S. 
to clean energy.
                 nnsa fiscal year 2023 budget overview
    Fully informed by the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR), the Fiscal 
Year 2023 Budget reflects a commitment to:

      a safe, secure, reliable, and effective nuclear weapons 
stockpile

      nonproliferation, and counterproliferation and 
counterterrorism response to reduce global nuclear threats

      the design, production, and provisioning of naval nuclear 
propulsion capabilities.

    NNSA continues to execute its largest stockpile modernization 
program in decades; develop and recapitalize an adaptive, resilient, 
and modern infrastructure; and advance cutting-edge science and 
engineering programs to oversee stockpile assessment and certification 
activities. In all NNSA programs, we implement exceptional physical and 
cybersecurity systems to guard critical assets.
    The President's Fiscal Year 2023 Budget for NNSA is $21.4 billion, 
an increase of $1.0 billion, and the largest request in NNSA history. 
\1\ While the nuclear stockpile is safe, secure, reliable, and 
effective, NNSA is aware that legacy infrastructure is well beyond its 
intended life designs and incapable of providing all the capabilities 
needed to deliver on the modernization efforts, especially with the 
demanding production schedules. With consistent, sustained, bipartisan 
support from the Administration and Congress, NNSA will make the 
necessary investments to maintain a safe, secure, reliable, and 
effective nuclear weapons stockpile; modernize the nuclear security 
infrastructure; reinvigorate American leadership in arms control and 
nonproliferation; and provide safe and effective nuclear propulsion 
systems for the U.S. Navy.
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    Also, NNSA must grow its human capital and is recruiting a top-
tier, next generation workforce, developing talent, and creating more 
competitive benefits and compensation programs to help retain people 
with requisite skills during the `Great Resignation' occurring 
nationwide. Together, the people, the facilities, the equipment are the 
best way to provide a resilient and adaptive Nuclear Security 
Enterprise for the future.
    NNSA understands the urgency to deliver and is thankful for the 
trust and support of Congress and the American people.
                           weapons activities
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for the Weapons Activities 
account is $16.5 billion, an increase of $566 million, or 3.7 percent, 
over fiscal year 2022 enacted levels. This request will be supplemented 
with prior year balances of $396 million. This budget request supports 
the Administration's commitment to modernize all three legs of the 
nuclear triad supported by a flexible, resilient infrastructure and 
protected by highly capable physical, and cyber security.
    The request underscores delivering for our partners at the 
Department of Defense (DoD) while retaining the highest safety 
standards and proceeding in a cost-effective manner. It provides for 
the maintenance and refurbishment of nuclear weapons to maintain 
confidence in their safety, security, reliability, and military 
effectiveness without resuming explosive nuclear testing; 
infrastructure revitalization; investment in scientific, engineering, 
and manufacturing capabilities; and greater resources for physical and 
cybersecurity to foster responsiveness and resilience.
Stockpile Management
    For Stockpile Management, the fiscal year 2023 budget request is 
$4.9 billion, an increase of $291 million, or 6.3 percent, over the 
fiscal year 2022 enacted level. Funding in this portfolio fully 
supports all five ongoing stockpile life extension and modernization 
programs; stockpile maintenance, surveillance, and assessment 
activities; and the safe dismantlement and disposition of excess 
nuclear weapons and components. The fiscal year 2023 request also 
includes funding to support the current production capabilities 
required for the above activities, as well as Nuclear Enterprise 
Assurance (NEA)--a new effort that helps prevent, detect, and mitigate 
adversarial subversion risks to the nuclear weapons stockpile.
    W88 Alteration (Alt) 370: NNSA is requesting $162 million in fiscal 
year 2023 for the W88 Alt 370 program. The Program is expected to enter 
Phase 6.6, Full Scale Production in July 2022. Production is currently 
on schedule to meet requested DoD deployment schedules.
    B61-12 Life Extension Program (LEP): NNSA is requesting $672 
million in fiscal year 2023 for the B61-12 LEP. The Program is expected 
to enter Phase 6.6, Full Scale Production in June 2022. The First 
Production Unit (FPU) was completed in November 2021 and production is 
currently on schedule to meet DoD deployment schedules.
    W80-4 LEP: NNSA is requesting $1.1 billion in fiscal year 2023 for 
the W80-4 LEP. The program is currently in Phase 6.3 Development 
Engineering, and plans to enter Phase 6.4, Production Engineering in 
fiscal year 2023. The FPU date is currently being re-evaluated due to 
COVID-19 impacts, hiring issues, and component technical challenges. An 
updated schedule will be developed by mid-2022. NNSA remains confident 
in meeting schedule requirements to support the U.S. Air Force's (USAF) 
schedule for the Long-Range Standoff (LRSO) cruise missile Initial 
Operating Capability.
    W87-1 Modification Program: NNSA is requesting $680 million in 
fiscal year 2023 for the W87-1 Modification Program. The W87-1 will 
replace the aging W78 warhead and deploy new technologies that improve 
safety, address obsolete design and materials, and streamline 
manufacturability. The funding request supports plans for a FPU in 
fiscal year 2030 to field the warhead on the USAF Ground-Based 
Strategic Deterrent (Sentinel) missile system in the Mk21A reentry 
vehicle. NNSA plans to enter Phase 6.3, Development Engineering, in 
fiscal year 2022.
    W93/Mk7: NNSA is requesting $240.5 million in fiscal year 2023 for 
the W93 program. In February 2022, the NWC voted to authorize the W93's 
entry into Phase 2, Feasibility Study and Design Options. The W93 
incorporates modern technologies that will allow the U.S. to keep pace 
with future threats and allow for operational flexibility during the 
Navy's transition from the Ohio to Columbia-class ballistic missile 
submarines. All W93 key nuclear components are based on currently 
deployed and previously tested designs and so will not require nuclear 
explosive testing to certify.
Production Modernization
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for Production Modernization is 
$4.64 billion, an increase of $484 million, or 11.6 percent, over the 
fiscal year 2022 enacted level. \2\ Activities covered by this funding 
include both primary and secondary capability modernization as well as 
non-nuclear components.
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    Primary Capability Modernization includes the plutonium pit, high 
explosive, and energetics programs. NNSA's most intense 
recapitalization need in this area is the reconstitution of plutonium 
pit production fabrication operations. NNSA is required to produce no 
fewer than 80 plutonium pits per year (ppy) during 2030. NNSA is 
committed to reaching that goal as close to 2030 as possible utilizing 
a two-site pit production strategy at Los Alamos National Laboratory 
(LANL) and the Savannah River Site (SRS). The fiscal year 2023 budget 
request boosts funding for pit production and associated efforts by 26 
percent compared to fiscal year 2022. At LANL, fiscal year 2023 funds 
will be used for equipment installation activities, including adding 
equipment in Plutonium Facility 4 to support 30 ppy by fiscal year 
2026. At SRS, NNSA is currently executing design activities for the 
Savannah River Plutonium Processing Facility, which is funded according 
to NNSA's independent cost estimate in the Fiscal Year 2023 Budget, as 
it moves toward Critical Decision (CD-2). CD-2 will be achieved once 90 
percent of design is complete in early fiscal year 2024. A two-site 
approach provides sufficient capacity to meet program requirements and 
resiliency in the event of unanticipated issues at one site.
    Secondary Capability Modernization includes uranium, lithium, and 
tritium processing efforts. Each of these programs support stockpile 
sustainment and modernization efforts and are currently facing degraded 
capabilities and insufficient capacity to meet future mission 
requirements. NNSA is undertaking significant, long-term infrastructure 
investments to address the situation. For example, the Uranium 
Processing Facility (UPF) at the Y-12 National Security Complex will 
reduce mission dependency on Building 9212, which is currently over 75 
years old, while increasing safety and efficiency. UPF is one of the 
largest construction projects in NNSA history and at its peak will 
support a construction workforce of over 3,000. Ongoing supply chain 
issues and delays associated with the COVID-19 pandemic will result in 
a short extension beyond the scheduled completion date of December 
2025, however, there are no anticipated impacts to warhead deliverables 
as the legacy site will remain operational throughout the transition. 
NNSA is also continuing investments in the Depleted Uranium (DU) 
Modernization Program initiated at Y-12 in fiscal year 2021. Depleted 
Uranium is a key component for the manufacturing of radiation cases for 
weapons systems and current capabilities cannot meet reliability or 
capacity requirements.
    To ensure adequate quantities of lithium, NNSA is in the process of 
creating a Lithium Processing Facility (LPF). LPF will replace current 
capabilities housed at Y-12. Current capabilities can provide 
sufficient supply through 2035 but take place in an aging facility with 
significant infrastructure challenges. LPF will alleviate those 
infrastructure issues while providing expanded capacity to meet demand 
beyond 2035.
    To provide adequate quantities of tritium, NNSA is in the process 
of creating a Tritium Finishing Facility (TFF) at Savannah River Site. 
TFF will replace a 1950's-era facility and will house finishing, 
packing, and shipping functions for gas reservoirs. Doing so will meet 
an important mission need and assist the program in meeting current 
safety standards. Construction of the site preparation subproject is 
scheduled to begin in fiscal year 2024. NNSA also supports continued 
research and development for a future Domestic Uranium Enrichment 
capability to provide enriched uranium for national defense purposes 
including tritium production.
    Non-nuclear components (NNCs) include a wide array of parts that 
weaponize the nuclear explosive package. NNCs account for over half the 
cost of weapon modernizations due to the number of components, their 
complexity, and their need to withstand extreme conditions over the 
life of the warhead. The fiscal year 2023 request includes funding to: 
provide equipment for increased manufacturing capacity at the Kansas 
City National Security Campus; reconstitute thermal spray capability 
for weapon modernization; recapitalize radiation and major 
environmental test facilities at Sandia National Laboratories (SNL) 
used to design and qualify NNCs; and tools and equipment at the 
Microsystems Engineering, Science and Applications (MESA) Complex at 
SNL, which serves as the only approved source of trusted, strategically 
radiation hardened microelectronics.
Stockpile Research, Technology, and Engineering
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for Stockpile Research, 
Technology, and Engineering (SRT&E) is $2.89 billion, a decrease of $83 
million, or 2.8 percent below the fiscal year 2022 enacted level. \3\ 
The decrease results from the use of carryover balances to continue 
construction of the U1a Complex Enhancement Project at the Nevada 
National Security Site (NNSS). Funding across the remainder of the 
SRT&E request is in-line with the fiscal year 2022 enacted level. This 
portfolio covers activities which support science-based stockpile 
assessments and warhead modernization program certifications without 
needing to resume underground nuclear testing. We remain fully 
confident in our unmatched scientific and technical capabilities and 
are committed to their continuous improvement. The fiscal year 2023 
budget request will provide significant investment in several short and 
long-term programs which reflect that commitment.
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    The Enhanced Capabilities for Subcritical Experiments (ECSE) will 
produce experimental data at NNSS that will enable assessments of the 
current stockpile and certification of the future stockpile without 
returning to underground nuclear-explosive testing. ECSE experiments 
will remain subcritical throughout the experiment to comply with U.S. 
``Zero Yield'' policy. NNSA is requesting $277 million for this program 
in fiscal year 2023, an increase of $61.6 million, or 28 percent, over 
the fiscal year 2022 enacted level.
    The Stockpile Responsiveness Program (SRP) is responsible for 
exercising and enhancing capabilities that improve responsiveness to 
future threats, trends, and developments not already covered by 
existing life extension programs. Significant resources in this program 
are devoted to addressing issues in manufacturing, digital engineering, 
component and system prototyping, and testing. The funding request for 
SRP in fiscal year 2023 is $68.7 million.
    The Inertial Confinement Fusion (ICF) Program supports stockpile 
assessment and certification efforts by providing the conditions 
necessary to collect data in the extreme conditions of nuclear weapon 
operation. The ICF Program also conducts experiments related to 
thermonuclear fusion with the goal of creating high fusion yield in a 
laboratory setting. The fiscal year 2023 request is $544 million, a 
decrease of $36 million, or 6 percent, compared to the fiscal year 2022 
enacted level. This decrease reflects an fiscal year 2022 congressional 
appropriation $51 million above the requested amount. NNSA will also 
participate, where aligned to our stewardship mission, in a new, cross-
Departmental initiative in fusion energy with the Office of Science 
(SC) Office of Fusion Energy Sciences, the Advanced Research Projects 
Agency Energy, the Office of Nuclear Energy, and the Office of the 
Under Secretary for Science and Innovation that is aimed at advancing 
the technology to realize fusion energy on the grid in a decadal 
timeframe.
    NNSA's Exascale Computing Initiative (ECI)--a joint program with 
the DOE's Office of Science (SC)--will provide NNSA with next-
generation simulation capabilities to support weapons design, stockpile 
stewardship, and stockpile certification. NNSA continues its strong 
partnership with SC in achieving the goals for exascale computing. The 
NNSA's fiscal year 2023 budget request for ECI is $160 million, a 
decrease of $44 million, or 21.5 percent, compared to the fiscal year 
2022 enacted level. This decrease reflects NNSA plans to bring the 
exascale high performance computing system, El Capitan, online in 
fiscal year 2023 at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory-the third of 
three exascale computers planned for deployment by DOE (including 
Frontier at Oak Ridge National Laboratory and Aurora at Argonne 
National Laboratory). The fiscal year 2023 request will continue 
funding maturation and transition of the next-generation simulation and 
computing technologies for production use. Finally, NNSA continues to 
partner with the SC Office of Advanced Scientific Computing Research to 
support the DOE Computational Science Graduate Fellowship, which 
contributes to development of and increasing the availability and 
diversity of skilled computational scientists, mathematicians, and 
engineers needed to meet the needs of the Department's missions.
    The growing needs of NNSA's mission require a diverse base of a 
highly skilled, technical workforce. NNSA's Academic Programs are 
designed to foster, attract, and retain such a workforce. The fiscal 
year 2023 budget request for these programs is $100.5 million, a 
decrease of $11.4 million, or 10 percent, compared to the fiscal year 
2022 enacted level. This decrease reflects Congress' strong support 
during the fiscal year 2022 appropriations cycle in which NNSA's 
Academic Programs were given a significant uplift compared to the 
requested amount. NNSA remains thankful for congressional recognition 
and support for this important program. Funding will support the 
implementation of the Administration's Executive Order on Advanced 
Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities through increased 
engagement between the Nuclear Security Enterprise and Historically 
Black Colleges and Universities, Tribal Colleges and Universities, and 
other Minority Serving Institutions. It will also foster greater 
engagement with students from diverse backgrounds through internships, 
apprenticeships, and fellowship opportunities, in coordination with 
other DOE offices.
                improving infrastructure and operations
    A resilient, flexible, and scalable infrastructure is the 
foundation of a modern nuclear security enterprise. Approximately 60 
percent of NNSA facilities were beyond their 40-year life expectancy at 
the end of fiscal year 2021 with multiple facilities dating back to the 
Manhattan Project. Consistent congressional support and sustained 
funding have enabled NNSA to make progress on some of its most pressing 
infrastructure needs and is vital to ongoing efforts to fully 
recapitalize facilities, office buildings, power grids, roads, and 
equipment.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for Infrastructure and 
Operations is $2.63 billion, an increase of $144 million, or 5.8 
percent, over the fiscal year 2022 enacted amount. \4\ This increase 
will enable NNSA to incorporate lessons learned from the Infrastructure 
Modernization Initiative that will help streamline construction 
practices to save time and money on low-risk, non-nuclear, construction 
projects. NNSA remains grateful for congressional support that raised 
the minor construction authority from $10 million to $20 million in 
fiscal year 2018. Since fiscal year 2018, NNSA has completed 16 minor 
projects valued between $10 and $20 million. NNSA intends to build on 
these accomplishments and the additional authority granted by Congress 
in the Fiscal Year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which 
raised the cap to $25 million to accelerate the pace of 
recapitalization.
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    Across the enterprise, NNSA is using data-driven, risk informed 
tools and initiatives to accelerate the delivery and reduce the cost of 
commercial-like construction projects. In fiscal year 2019 NNSA 
established the Enhanced Minor Construction & Commercial Standards 
(EMC2) pilot program to explore and challenge NNSA's execution of low-
risk construction projects. There are currently 10 projects in the 
pilot, including the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Emergency 
Operations Center (EOC) which was the first pilot project to be 
completed earlier this year. In the four projects currently underway, 
estimated cost savings range between approximately 12-31 percent. 
Another six projects in the pipeline are expected to realize savings 
between 17-38 percent.
    As DOE/NNSA confront climate change, we recognize that more 
frequent and higher intensity storms, wildfires, and extreme 
temperatures have the potential to disrupt NNSA's mission and pose a 
national security risk. NNSA currently utilizes a prioritization 
methodology for infrastructure recapitalization that takes 
sustainability and resilience into account along with measures such as 
safety and mission risk. In fiscal year 2023 NNSA will increase its 
emphasis on climate resiliency through the Energy Resilient 
Infrastructure and Climate Adaptation (ERICA) initiative. ERICA 
utilizes direct-and indirect-funded infrastructure programs and 
alternative financing to address adaptation and resilience.
                    defense nuclear security efforts
    The Office of Defense Nuclear Security (DNS) provides protection 
for NNSA's infrastructure, personnel, and critical assets necessary for 
the successful execution of important national security missions. The 
fiscal year 2023 budget request for Defense Nuclear Security is $882.3 
million, an increase of $38.2 million, or 4.5 percent, over the fiscal 
year 2022 enacted level. DNS has experienced increased program 
requirements recently that require additional resources to maintain 
sufficient capabilities. This includes additional allocations for 
plutonium pit production efforts, preparation for UPF operations, and 
other projects. DNS remains focused on recapitalization and improvement 
of physical security with several new projects and the deployment of 
new systems. Efforts are also underway to counter unmanned aircraft 
systems. The first such counter-platform was deployed at LANL in 
December 2017. Deployment at other facilities is expected to reach 
completion near the end of fiscal year 2022.
                cybersecurity and information technology
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for information technology and 
cybersecurity is $445.7 million, $39.1 million, or 9.6 percent, over 
the fiscal year 2022 enacted amount. This request funds ongoing 
operations and invests in improvements across NNSA to modernize both 
classified and unclassified systems, improves information management 
and data governance, implements critical aspects of a zero-trust 
architecture in our networks and systems, and allows for the execution 
of a robust cybersecurity program.
    To strengthen oversight of the cyber program, the budget request 
includes a recategorization of certain Cybersecurity program 
investments into the Information Technology program. As a result, the 
request more clearly reflects investments in cybersecurity tools and 
services provided to the enterprise, maintains core cyber operations at 
the labs, plants, and sites, and improves management and transparency 
of these funds.
                    defense nuclear nonproliferation
    For decades, the Office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation (DNN) 
has served as a source of innovative solutions and technical expertise 
to fulfill one of NNSA's primary missions of reducing nuclear risk. 
Working with international organizations, partner countries, and the 
private sector, DNN seeks to eliminate proliferation sensitive 
materials and prevent the spread of technologies, expertise, and 
components that would enable the creation of a nuclear or radiological 
device. The fiscal year 2023 budget request for the DNN account is $2.3 
billion, an increase of $274 million, or 13.2 percent, over the fiscal 
year 2022 enacted level. When the use of prior year balances is 
considered, the account funding increases by $397 million, or 19.2 
percent. The use of prior year balances will allow DNN programs to 
supplement new budget authority across its programs. This account funds 
all nonproliferation in the offices of Defense Nuclear 
Nonproliferation, Emergency Operations, and Counterterrorism and 
Counterproliferation.
    DNN continues to deliver on its objectives and confront current and 
anticipated proliferation challenges. This includes the growing Russian 
and Chinese nuclear programs, the invasion of Ukraine, risks related to 
the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs, and disruptive new 
technologies that lower the barrier to proliferation. Globally, DNN has 
to date eliminated 7,270 kilograms of weapons-usable nuclear material 
from 48 countries and Taiwan; removed the need to utilize weapon-grade 
materials at over 108 civilian research reactors and isotope production 
facilities; converted a cumulative total of 1,201 kilograms of 
plutonium into an oxide form for disposition; and worked with domestic 
producers to secure a sufficient global supply of the critical medical 
isotope molybdenum-99 (Mo-99), which is used in over 40,000 procedures 
every day in the United States, without the use of highly enriched 
uranium, to meet the needs of patients in the U.S.
    DNN's Nonproliferation and Arms Control Program also continues to 
cooperate closely with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to 
provide subject matter expertise, implement safeguards, and develop new 
policies and technologies for the peaceful use of nuclear energy. This 
is especially important as nuclear power use grows and new reactor 
technologies are developed as a means for combating climate change. New 
nuclear safeguards and monitoring and verification technologies are 
needed to secure materials and to detect proliferation activities 
early.
    DNN also sustains a robust research program that provides space-
based sensors to monitor nuclear activities as well as supports efforts 
to detect proliferation early in the process. Our DNN R&D program 
additionally sustains expertise in labs and universities, including 
people and test beds, and develops ways to get ahead of emerging 
threats.
                nuclear terrorism and incident response
    The fiscal year 2023 request for the Nuclear Counterterrorism and 
Incident Response (NCTIR) Program is $439 million, an increase of $68 
million, or 18.4 percent, over the fiscal year 2022 enacted amount. 
NCTIR supports two subprograms: Counterterrorism and 
Counterproliferation (CTCP) and Emergency Operations (EO).
    CTCP is tasked with countering nuclear terrorism and proliferation, 
responding to nuclear incidents and accidents around the world, and 
building domestic and international partner capacity for emergency 
preparedness and nuclear incident response. CTCP's unique operational 
capabilities and highly knowledgeable experts provide a strong defense 
against the possibility of a terrorist nuclear attack and broader 
nuclear proliferation, making the office a key element of the U.S. 
Government's layered defense against nuclear threats. NNSA's 
``Capability Forward'' initiative is an example of this posture. 
Working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, NNSA, through CTCP, 
provides equipment, training, and technical advice to regional counter-
weapons of mass destruction teams in 14 major U.S. cities to accelerate 
life-saving responses to nuclear incidents.
    CTCP also manages the Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST), a 
group of highly trained technical specialists able to respond to 
nuclear incidents and accidents worldwide. NEST's missions include both 
national security and public health and safety components. NEST 
capabilities include an extensive nuclear forensics repertoire and 
advanced sensors to locate and neutralize nuclear threats. Throughout 
the Ukraine crisis, NEST personnel have been closely involved in United 
States efforts to analyze potential radioactive threats resulting from 
military activity in Ukraine, including the monitoring safety and 
security in and around nuclear power plants and other nuclear 
facilities. NEST personnel are prepared to rapidly provide information 
following the use of nuclear or radiological weapons if they are 
employed in the region.
    EO provides both the structure and methods to deploy a 
comprehensive and integrated approach to all-hazards emergency 
management, improving the readiness and effectiveness of the DOE 
Emergency Management System. The fiscal year 2023 budget request 
supports, among other items, 24/7/365 Consolidated Emergency Operations 
Center communications and coordination to support the DOE/NNSA 
Emergency Management Enterprise and Departmental Senior Leadership.
                             naval reactors
    The Office of Naval Reactors provides the Nation's submarines and 
aircraft carriers with unmatched mobility, flexibility, and endurance 
thanks to its exceptional handling of the Nation's naval nuclear 
propulsion technologies. The ability to maintain robust fleet 
capabilities on long-term missions is essential for the security of 
global trade and our allies. Our ability to maintain a technological 
edge in this field provides the U.S. Navy with a decisive edge in naval 
warfare and provides for the security and reliability of the sea-based 
leg of the nuclear triad.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget request for Naval Reactors is $2.08 
billion, an increase of $163 million, or 8.5 percent, above the fiscal 
year 2022 enacted level. Funding supports Naval Reactors' three major 
projects: the Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine reactor 
systems development; construction of the Naval Spent Fuel Handling 
Facility in Idaho; and the refueling and overhaul of the S8G Prototype 
land-based reactor in New York to support sailor training and 
technology testing. Naval Reactors is committed to supporting the safe 
and reliable operation of the nuclear-powered fleet and advancing 
technological development to bring improvements in performance, 
manufacturability, and affordability--for current and future warships.
    The Department is an active participant in the AUKUS trilateral 
security partnership. The Australian, UK, and United States Governments 
are currently in an 18-month consultation period to establish the best 
path forward for the delivery of a conventionally armed, nuclear-
powered submarine capability to Australia as quickly as possible. As 
part of the international working group developing nonproliferation and 
safeguards aspects of the AUKUS program, NNSA will provide technical 
advice to the interagency and our AUKUS partners on the full suite of 
requirements that underpin nuclear stewardship to achieve our objective 
of upholding the highest nonproliferation standards. This cooperation 
is fully consistent with each partner's respective obligations under 
the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. We remain heavily focused on the 
Administration's long-standing commitment to promoting nonproliferation 
where possible.
                             nnsa workforce
    To manage this broad portfolio, NNSA depends upon recruiting, 
training, and retaining a highly technical Federal and M&O workforce. 
The NNSA Federal workforce consists of a diverse team of scientists, 
engineers, project and program managers, foreign affairs specialists, 
and support staff that perform program and project management and 
appropriate oversight of the national security missions related to 
Weapons Activities and Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation. The fiscal 
year 2023 budget request for Federal Salaries and Expenses (FSE) is 
$496.4 million, an increase of $32 million, or 7 percent, above the 
fiscal year 2022 enacted level.
        new era of progress for environmental management mission
    As important as the missions of today and tomorrow are, the cold 
war left an indelible mark on America. It is the mission of the Office 
of Environmental Management (EM) is to address the legacy of nuclear 
weapons development and government-sponsored nuclear energy research 
that has played a significant role in domestic security and prosperity.
    As the largest environmental cleanup program in the world, EM plays 
a key role in the Department's overarching mission to protect the 
planet. The Department's fiscal year 2023 budget request of $7.6 
billion will help EM continue to make progress in fulfilling the 
government's responsibility to clean up the environment in communities 
that supported nuclear weapons programs and government-sponsored 
nuclear energy research.
    Over the last 30 years, EM has significant progress for the 
environment, completing cleanup at 92 out of a total of 107 sites. 
Despite a global pandemic, the program has continued to achieve a set 
of impactful accomplishments at sites across the country.
    Deactivation and demolition work at the Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security Complex is reducing 
environmental risks and enabling research and national security 
missions. At the Hanford site in Washington State, EM is treating 
radioactive and chemical waste from large underground tanks for the 
first time ever on a large scale. At the Savannah River Site in Aiken, 
South Carolina EM is processing record amounts of tank waste and 
recently broke ground on the Advanced Manufacturing Collaborative 
facility which will help meet the needs of the Department's cleanup 
mission and create an environment to develop a diverse and talented 
next generation workforce. The EM team in Idaho recently completed 
buried waste remediation, helping to protect the Snake River Aquifer. 
More than 200 transuranic waste shipments were received last year at 
the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in New Mexico. Cleanup activities at 
the Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York are complete, as well as 
environmental remediation work at the Tonopah Test Range in Nevada.
    The fiscal year 2023 request for EM, which builds on recent 
progress, reflects the Department's strong commitment to protecting the 
environment, enabling national security and scientific research 
missions, and delivering for communities most impacted by the legacy of 
the past. The request supports a ramp up in EM's ability to tackle tank 
waste--one of the Department's largest environmental challenges and 
financial liabilities. The request will also enable continued progress 
in infrastructure improvements at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant and 
support an increased rate of waste shipments from across the EM 
program. In addition, EM will continue to advance facility demolition 
and risk reduction projects across the program.
    The fiscal year 2023 request include $6.9 billion for defense 
environmental cleanup activities, which covers most major EM sites and 
includes the Uranium Enrichment Decontamination and Decommissioning 
Fund contribution. The request of $1.6 billion for the Office of River 
Protection will enable EM to remain on track to initiate vitrification 
of Hanford tank waste by the end of 2023 through the Direct Feed Low 
Activity Waste (DFLAW) approach. Also at Hanford, the request of $913 
million for the Richland Operations Office will enable continued risk 
reduction activities including placing another former production 
reactor into interim safe storage, advancing the transfer of cesium and 
strontium capsules to dry storage and treating another 2 billion 
gallons of contaminated groundwater.
    At the Savannah River Site, the request of $1.7 billion supports 
utilization of capabilities to accelerate the tank waste mission. The 
request will also maintain a high State of readiness for H Canyon, the 
only chemical separations facility remaining in operation in the United 
States.
    At the Idaho Cleanup Project, the request of $379 million supports 
operations of the Integrated Waste Treatment Unit which will ultimately 
treat about 900,000 gallons of liquid waste by turning it into a 
granular solid. The Department will also meet another key commitment to 
the State of Idaho by completing the transfer of EM-owned spent nuclear 
fuel to onsite dry storage.
    Along with providing for continued Waste Isolation Pilot Plant 
operations, the budget request supports key modernization and 
infrastructure recapitalization priorities. Shipments of legacy 
transuranic waste to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant will progress from 
sites across the DOE complex, including the Los Alamos National 
Laboratory in New Mexico, where deactivation and decommissioning of 
NNSA's Ion Beam Facility will be initiated in fiscal year 2023. The 
request also includes $12 million to support continued D&D efforts for 
excess facilities at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory where 
the removal of the Livermore Pool Type Reactor was recently completed.
    EM's fiscal year 2023 budget also facilitates the Department's 
broader national security and scientific research missions. The request 
includes $499 million for Oak Ridge, which will enable EM to continue 
cleanup operations at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) and Y-12 
National Security Complex excess facilities. The request also enables 
EM to advance progress on the disposition of the remaining uranium-233 
inventory at ORNL and address transuranic debris and sludges.
    In addition to enabling impactful progress at EM sites, the fiscal 
year 2023 request reflects a planning approach that will boost the 
Department's ability to complete its cleanup mission and deliver for 
impacted communities.
    The Department is leveraging the expertise of the Savannah River 
National Laboratory to develop innovative solutions in the fields of 
environmental cleanup, national security and science and energy 
security that will benefit EM, the NNSA and other DOE missions.
    The fiscal year 2023 request invests in building a workforce for 
the future that promotes diversity, equity, inclusion, and 
accessibility. That includes high-quality jobs in environmental cleanup 
where workers from all backgrounds can make a living and make a 
difference. The budget request includes $56 million for EM's newly 
expanding Minority Serving Institutions Partnership Program. This 
program will be primarily focused on Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities and other Minority Serving Institutions with research 
specialties needed to advance the EM mission.
    EM is prepared to put resources to work to enhance environmental 
protections and remediate sites so they can be transitioned to future 
uses in local communities that helped the Nation win the cold war and 
maintain peace for decades. The fiscal year 2023 request represents a 
significant investment in helping the communities grow and thrive in 
the future. The cleanup mission itself is aligned with broader 
environmental justice goals that lead to a vibrant future in all 
communities.
    The budget request further boosts support for the Tribal Nations, 
Alaska Native communities, and communities near EM sites ensuring they 
are safe, providing opportunities for local input into clean up 
priorities and helping build a vibrant future. The request includes 
Payment in Lieu of Taxes funding for communities near Hanford and 
Savannah River to support schools, roads and other local priorities. A 
$40 million investment is included to establish a new Community 
Capacity Building initiative. In addition, the EM Los Alamos Field 
Office was selected as one of five DOE pilot programs for the cross-
cutting Justice40 Initiative. This whole-of-government effort will 
continue to grow in fiscal year 2023 to support the goal that 40 
percent of the overall benefits from certain Federal investments, 
including the remediation and reduction of legacy pollution, flow to 
disadvantaged communities.
    The Department will continue to work hand-in-hand with workers, 
unions, Tribal Nations, local communities, and Congress to plan for the 
future of environmental cleanup.
                        enhancing cybersecurity
    Geopolitical tensions in Eastern Europe following Russia's invasion 
of Ukraine have heightened the importance of energy sector 
cybersecurity and collaboration with energy industry partners. 
Sophisticated cyber threats from state-sponsored actors such as Russia 
require updated approaches to enable near-real time situational 
awareness of malicious cyber activity, including threats to industrial 
control systems (ICS) that manage physical processes to help operate 
our Nation's energy system, as well as to awareness of critical 
information technology systems.
    As this committee knows well, DOE has tremendous expertise both at 
headquarters and across the 17 National Laboratories to help us tackle 
cyber threats to the U.S. energy sector. DOE, through the Office of 
Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response (CESER) with the 
help of these labs, leads numerous efforts ranging from deploying 
cybersecurity sensors at utilities to partnering with manufacturers to 
testing their equipment for malicious code. Today, I would like to 
share three new initiatives that CESER is working on that will help 
enhance cybersecurity: 1) the Energy Threat Analysis Center (ETAC) 
pilot efforts; 2) Energy Cyber Sense; and 3) Integrating Cybersecurity 
in Clean Energy Systems.
    1) Energy Threat Analysis Center (ETAC)
    In April 2021, the White House launched an effort to address 
cybersecurity in ICS. The first sprint, which DOE led in partnership 
with DHS, focused on the electricity sector. We worked with the 
industry on deploying cyber sensors in the complex operational 
technology (OT) environment. The goal of this work is to gain near-real 
time situational awareness of the cyber threats across industry and 
government. DOE has long had sensors deployed in information technology 
(IT) networks of energy sector networks through our Cybersecurity Risk 
Information Sharing Program (CRISP), but as a part of this important 
initiative, we are now turning our focus to the OT network. Ultimately, 
we are headed toward establishing what we are calling our Energy Threat 
Analysis Center (ETAC). The ETAC will enable us to jointly collaborate 
with industry, CISA's JCDC, and the Intelligence Community to jointly 
analyze threats and determine the relevant mitigation measures for 
energy systems. We recognize that it will take all of us coming 
together to address these complex and ever-increasing threats to energy 
infrastructure.
    2) Energy Cyber Sense
    There is a clear recognition that not only do we need to work with 
energy sector owners and operators to address cyber threats, but we 
also need to work with manufacturers and suppliers. To that end, DOE 
has been working on numerous efforts to address supply chain security 
issues in the energy sector. Following the passage of the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA), we are bringing those 
efforts together and looking to expand them in fiscal year 2023 under 
the ``Energy Cyber Sense'' banner, which was created pursuant to 
Section 40122 of IIJA. This program will be focused on addressing cyber 
threats to critical hardware and software used in the energy sector. To 
date, we have already gotten commitments from three of the largest ICS 
manufacturers to work with us--Schweitzer, Schneider, and ABB/Hitachi--
and we are working to bring others to join us on tackling supply chain 
threats. Additionally, we are also committed to leveraging policy tools 
such as promoting domestic manufacturing to build critical equipment 
right here in the U.S., where there is less of a risk of adversaries 
manipulating hardware or software.
    3) Integrating Cybersecurity into Clean Energy Systems
    While it is important to address the risks to the energy systems of 
today, it is equally important for us to be thinking about where the 
U.S. energy sector is headed 5, 10, and 20 years from now. In fact, we 
have a strategic opportunity like never before: while we are tackling 
the impacts of climate change by deploying next generation wind, solar, 
hydrogen, and nuclear systems, we can build in cybersecurity.
    I've asked CESER to lead a cross-departmental effort to coordinate 
cybersecurity across the applied energy and science offices ensure that 
cybersecurity is a core component of those systems. To that end, DOE 
just launched a new initiative focused on vehicle-to-grid charging 
infrastructure and cybersecurity will be component of that effort. 
Separately, we are engaging closely with clean energy companies on 
cybersecurity like never before and we'll be developing cyber training 
specific to their systems. Finally, we are working on a strategy called 
``Cyber-Informed Engineering'' that we will be releasing soon that will 
call upon energy companies of all sizes and shapes, academia, standards 
bodies, manufacturers, and others to come build cybersecurity into 
energy systems from the point of ideation.
    I would also like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the hard 
work NNSAs labs, plants, and sites for providing subject matter 
expertise in cybersecurity and critical infrastructure. Their 
leadership has provided both DOE and NNSA with the ability to leverage 
shared resources and capitalize on critical subject matter expertise in 
support of the national security mission.
    In the current threat environment, the Department cannot afford to 
neglect its cybersecurity capabilities, which serve as frontline assets 
that protect the information, systems, and networks necessary to 
execute its mission.
    I can assure you that cybersecurity will remain a top priority for 
the Department, and these investments will posture DOE to defend 
against an ever-evolving landscape of cyber threats.
                               conclusion
    At DOE, new breakthroughs in climate science, engineering, physics, 
cyber security, and other fields help advance the enduring goal of 
enhancing American national security. NNSA's weapons activities, 
nonproliferation and counterterrorism programs that help reduce global 
threats, and naval reactors programs all support the continued 
reliability of our nuclear deterrent which remains the cornerstone of 
our national defense. Through the rigorous application of nuclear 
safeguards, safety and environmental standards and cutting-edge 
engineering and technology, we remain steadfast in reducing nuclear 
risk and navigating an increasingly complex global environment. We are 
mindful of the resources and trust that has been placed with DOE and 
are thankful for the continued support of the Committee and the rest of 
Congress.

    Chairman Reed. Well thank you very much, Administrator 
Hruby. Let me begin with a question for you.
    I had the opportunity to participate in the subcommittee 
hearing and I have some concerns that NNSA does not have a full 
picture of the effort to produce 80 pits a year, both Los 
Alamos and Savannah River, which leads me to the question, does 
NNSA have an integrated schedule of milestones and costs for 
achieving this? If we do, I would very much like to see it.
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Chairman Reed. I think, as we talked 
before, we have an integrated schedule for each facility that 
is quite complete. We are in the process of integrating those 
schedules so that we have a master schedule for the entire 
plutonium project, including all the peripheral things like 
security that goes with that, and we are committed to provide 
you that this year.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. One of the 
aspects of this that is complicated is that if something 
happens in one location it would obviously affect the other. It 
is not just structural. It is also personnel and getting ahead 
of that would be very important, not only for us but for us. So 
thank you.
    Secretary Granholm, on April 12th, the Administrator wrote 
to this committee that it had an unfunded shortfall of $250 
million for converting the mixed oxide fuel plant at the 
Savannah River site for production. Can you tell the committee 
what this shortfall consists of and whether the Nuclear Weapons 
Council has validated this shortfall as they committed to do so 
at the May 11th Strategic Forces Subcommittee hearing?
    Secretary Granholm. The $500 million that is being 
requested through the letter that Jill Hruby sent is to really 
fulfill what this committee would like to see happen, I 
believe, many on this committee, which is to accelerate to the 
extent we can the production of pits. We will not be able to 
get to the 2030 goal. We know that. But what this letter does 
is acknowledge that there are some long-lead items, like 
gloveboxes, et cetera, that take time, that we know we are 
going to need, that we can now begin to procure.
    With supply chain crunches, et cetera, we believe that we 
would be in a better position to be able to purchase those now 
so that when we get to the point where the facility is 
complete--and, of course, as you know, we are in the middle of 
a design of that redesign, and that is about 90 percent 
complete--that we will be able to get people into the building 
and begin to deal with the plutonium pit issue right away. So 
that is what the letter really intends to do is to accelerate, 
to the extent we can, even though it will not get us to the 
2030----
    Chairman Reed. Well, Madam Secretary, that is a very good 
explanation of the letter. It is very accurate. But a few days 
later the Nuclear Weapons Council issued a letter indicating 
that they did not agree with the money. That is my 
understanding. What is the position of the Nuclear Weapons 
Council, is essentially the question?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, and I will Under Secretary Hruby 
speak to this, but it is my understanding the Nuclear Weapons 
Council will be supportive of that, or is supportive of that.
    Ms. Hruby. Chairman Reed, we are meeting tomorrow as the 
Nuclear Weapons Council to discuss this budget request. As you 
heard in the hearing last week, the members of the Nuclear 
Weapons Council are supportive of this need to bring money up 
to do the equipment pre-buy so that we can make sure we can 
construct SRPPF [Savannah River Plutonium Processing Facility] 
as quickly as possible. You will hear from the Nuclear Weapons 
Council soon.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. We would appreciate 
that, Administrator Hruby.
    Madam Secretary, you pointed out how your environmental 
team has done an extraordinary job over the years. There is 
still, as I mentioned, the Hanford site and other sites. But at 
Hanford you are making progress on the low-level radioactive 
waste, but have you started planning for the high-activity 
waste in these tanks?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, Mr. Chairman. The budget supports 
the beginning of the effort on the high-level waste. We also 
note that this committee had asked for an assessment of 
alternatives as well. That study is being undertaken right now 
in parallel with the National Academies' study, both of which 
should be complete before the fall so that we will have an 
assessment of what the other pieces are, even as we know that 
we will still be treating some of that high-level waste on 
site, perhaps to move to vitrification as well.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Secretary.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Secretary, 
you answered the question I was going to address adequately, so 
let me just mention to Administrator Hruby that in the past 
NNSA officials argued for real sustainable annual growth to 
keep modernization on track. Now how significantly will our 
programs be delayed if NNSA faces annual shortages of a half-
billion dollars? What is that going to do to us if that 
continues?
    Ms. Hruby. Senator Inhofe, the $500 million request is to 
assure that we do not get more behind by moving money up and 
making purchases earlier, based on information that we have 
learned as we have completed our large construction project, 
the Uranium Processing Facility, and other projects at Los 
Alamos and around the complex.
    So we are totally synced up with the Department of Defense 
on all of our weapons programs, our deliveries of the 
modernization programs. It is challenging but we stay in close 
contact and we are completely synced up. We are just trying to 
keep, with this request, our infrastructure programs in a way 
that we can execute those as quickly as possible.
    Senator Inhofe. In my opening statement I talked about the 
condition of some of the facilities that we have there. Do you 
have any comments on that? Have you looked into that and see 
what that path forward would be appropriate at this time?
    Ms. Hruby. Yes, Senator Inhofe, since I have been confirmed 
into this position I have visited the complex, every place in 
the complex and most of them many times, and, in fact, we have 
a lot of infrastructure work to do, as you noted in your 
opening statement. We are developing a long-term infrastructure 
plan. We have some large projects going right now, and I think 
they are the right projects, not only the big projects in 
uranium and plutonium but also projects in explosives and 
tritium and lithium and depleted uranium and other activities.
    But we have so many needs that will go out for a long time, 
and we are working on a long-term infrastructure plan that 
includes not only our production complex but also our science 
and technology facilities.
    Senator Inhofe. In other words, you are on it, okay?
    Ms. Hruby. Well, this is going to be long term.
    Senator Inhofe. I know it is. I was saying that as a 
compliment. So go ahead.
    Ms. Hruby. Okay. Well, I will take the compliment. Thank 
you.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay, good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning to 
both of you. Thank you both for being here this morning and for 
your work on behalf of the country.
    Administrator Hruby, you talked about what we are doing to 
modernize facilities. Can you also talk about our progress on 
addressing any potential for cyber hacking to affect our 
facilities and our nuclear program?
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Senator. The cyber issue is very real 
and very much on our minds all the time. So once Frank Rose and 
I, my principal deputy, assumed these positions we asked for an 
independent review of our cyber capabilities. That review was 
conducted by the Institute for Defense Analysis, and it will be 
published this summer.
    We also have increased our budget for our cybersecurity 
programs, and we have created a line item in our defense 
program's budget that looks at digital assurance of the weapons 
enterprise.
    Senator Shaheen. So are you comfortable that today we would 
not be hacked successfully?
    Ms. Hruby. Look, the answer is I think we are doing 
everything that we can. This is a tricky business, so we have 
to be prepared in the event that there is a successful hack 
that we did not anticipate, we do not anticipate, and know how 
to respond to that. We are working on both sides of this, 
honestly, both a defensive but what would happen, you know, how 
quickly, what would we do and what would happen in the event of 
an attack. But we prevent, you know, many attacks a day in our 
complex, and we hope to continue to be successful at doing 
that.
    Senator Shaheen. Secretary Granholm, do you share the view 
that we are doing everything we can in the Department of Energy 
to address potential hacking that could affect our nuclear 
program?
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you, Senator, for the question, 
because it is so important, especially in the global context 
that we are in. Obviously, there are thousands of attempts per 
day, and we have been successful at not being successfully 
penetrated. The bad guys are morphing all the time, and they 
are continuing to enhance their capabilities, which is why when 
the Administrator says they did an assessment, I mean, part of 
the challenges in that assessment are making sure that we have 
got the IT professionals that are able to continually keep us 
on the cutting edge. I know they have engaged in a program to 
do recruiting, and we have also not just in cyber but across 
the NNSA complex increased pay because we want to make sure we 
can retain and attract the professionals that the private 
sector is also vying for.
    The Department and the NNSA I know have continually 
installed next-generation technology to monitor, to detect, to 
address, to be able to make sure we know what is happening on 
the system. But it is a continuous battle, and we will be 
vigilant all the way.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you both very much for that. 
As you point out, it is critical and it is not at all clear in 
this environment what the next threat is going to be.
    Certainly Russia's unprovoked war in Ukraine, in 
particular, underscores the urgent need for modernization of 
our nuclear efforts. Obviously, it also underscores the 
challenge that we are facing with energy. Secretary Granholm, 
to get off the budget a little bit and talk about what is 
happening with Russia's weaponization of energy, can you talk 
about what we are doing to work with our partners to address 
Russia's efforts to cut off Europe? Earlier this week they cut 
off Finland. Last week it was Bulgaria. What are we doing with 
our allies to try and address the energy concerns that they 
have as the result of the war in Ukraine?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, thank you, Senator. As you have 
noted, this has really caused an alliance of our allies to make 
us stronger than we have ever seen. It is clear that everyone 
needs to become independent of Russian oil and gas, and, of 
course, for those allies that have been significantly reliant 
upon it is a great challenge.
    So we have been, the Department of Energy and our allies--
in fact, I have a ministerial today with the U.K.--everyone is 
looking at next-generation technologies for making sure we do 
not see this again, whether it is next-generation nuclear or 
hydrogen, et cetera. But we also are looking at the today. So, 
of course, the United States is doing what it can to permit the 
export of liquified natural gas to Europe to make sure that 
they have the ability to wean themselves off of Russian gas.
    The oil situation is really challenging because Russia's 
actions have pulled 1.5 million barrels a day off of the global 
supply. The President's release of 1 million barrels a day from 
the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is set to try to stabilize 
those prices.
    But the bottom line is we are working with our allies on 
all manner of being able to help make them and help make 
ourselves independent from the volatility of fossil fuels, 
especially from countries that have petro-dictators that 
weaponize energy, and ultimately, many of these countries, most 
of these countries see the movement to clean energy as a way 
to, in the medium and long term, pursue energy independence, 
since no country has ever been held hostage to access to the 
wind or access to the sun.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary 
Granholm, Administrator Hruby, thank you to both of you for 
your service to our country. I would like to begin with a 
question for Administrator Hruby.
    The W80-4, which is the nuclear weapon itself that would be 
on the Long Range Standoff weapon, the new LRSO, the 
integration between those two will be key in terms of 
developing the weapon system that would be carried by our 
bomber force, both the B-52 and eventually the B-21 stealth 
bomber. The timeline and integration with the B-21 and the B-52 
is crucial to modernizing our nuclear deterrent.
    The W80-4 appears to be continually slipping to the right 
in terms of its development. We have got some concerns about 
that timeline, and specifically that the individual components 
in the development of this system just simply do not seem to be 
meeting up with the timelines that had been earlier developed 
in terms of getting it all put together.
    To the extent that you can in this open forum, can you 
explain the integration efforts between the W80-4, the weapon 
itself, and the LRSO, the system that is going to carry it, and 
the individual platforms such as the B-21 that are being 
developed in order to deliver this weapon, and are the first 
production units of the W80-4 still slated to be delivered in 
2025?
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Let's see. We work 
continuously with the military to make sure the W80-4 and the 
LRSO missile are aligned. The LRSO missile initial operating 
capability is in 2030. We had initially put the W80-4 first 
production unit in 2025 as a way to have space between all of 
the systems that we are working on today. There are a few 
components, a handful of components on the W80-4 which will 
have difficulty making that FPU, but we are completely synced 
up on being able to produce the W80-4 for the LRSO initial 
operating capability.
    Senator Rounds. The GAO [Government Accountability Office] 
had reported that the NNSA would enter phase 6.4, which is the 
production engineering, in late 2021. However, the NNSA now 
projects entry into phase 6.4 in June of 2022. We are 15 days 
away from that. Are you going to make that goal?
    Ms. Hruby. We will, this summer, lay out a new schedule for 
the W80-4 that has an updated FPU that the military will be, 
again, completely approved and synced up with.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Also for Administrator Hruby, 
according to statute--and I think the chairman alluded to this 
in his opening questions to you--according to Federal statute 
in law now, if DOE does not certify that it can meet plutonium 
pit production requirements the Nuclear Weapons Council 
chairman is required, by law, to submit a plan to enable the 
nuclear security enterprise to meet these requirements. Again, 
according to statute this plan shall include the identification 
of DOE resources that the chairman determines should be 
redirected to support the plan to meet the requirements.
    Administrator Hruby, to the best of my knowledge such as a 
plan has never been sent to the Congress defense committees. As 
a statutory member of the Nuclear Weapons Council, can you tell 
me are you aware of that statute, do you intend to comply with 
that statute, or do you need to get back to us on what your 
plans will be?
    Ms. Hruby. The Nuclear Weapons Council has looked 
extensively at the ability to make 80 pits per year and 
determined that money was not enough.
    Let me just say a little bit more about the idea of having 
a plan to use additional resources. You know, I am an engineer. 
I spent time with blueprints of the Savannah River pit 
production facility, trying to find every angle that we could 
accelerate the design and the construction and then the ability 
to produce pits there. There is no path to produce pits. There 
is no way to do that that would not sacrifice our long-term 
need to produce the minimum 50 pits per year at Savannah River 
forever more, or at least as far as we can see into the future.
    So anything we do now actually puts at risk the longer-term 
need. It would delay our ability right now if I redirected 
resources to look at this issue of what does it take to get to 
2030. I believe, and the Nuclear Weapons Council believe, a 
better path is to figure out how we meet the needs--and we 
think there is a path--to maintain safe, secure, reliable, 
credible deterrent and the Sentinel without the pits in 2030.
    Senator Rounds. My concern, Administrator Hruby, is that 
under the statute there is a redirection that is required, and 
if that is the case that hurts other programs that are equally 
as important within DOE. This is the time of the year in which 
allocations are made and budgets are developed and 
appropriations are planned for, and if there needs to be 
additional direction or additional appropriations made, I am 
simply stating that this needs to happen now and that we should 
not be waiting another year or delaying another year if there 
are items that should be appropriated, or at least the Congress 
should be doing to make sure that DOE has the resources 
necessary to accomplish all of those items that DOE has been 
authorized to move forward on.
    I simply think that the statute, in particular, was 
designed to make sure that Congress was aware if you did not 
have the resources to meet the necessary minimum requirements 
in terms of the nuclear production capabilities. It seems to me 
that what you are telling us is that we are so far down the 
line that you simply do not see a path forward in which we are 
going to meet those minimum requirements.
    Ms. Hruby. That is correct. The 2030 requirement, the 
Nuclear Weapons Council, and I am a member, has agreed that we 
cannot meet that requirement, and it is not resource dependent. 
The request for the additional money, the $500 million, was 
aimed at getting as close to that requirement as possible.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Warren has arrived. Are you ready, Senator Warren?
    Senator Warren. Always ready. Thank you. So thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    The cryptocurrency market has exploded over the last few 
years, driven by the popularity of Bitcoin, which amounts for 
about 40 percent of the entire crypto market. Bitcoin's network 
is secured through a proof-of-work algorithm which involves 
miners using powerful computers to guess a random string of 
numbers in order to verify transactions and win a Bitcoin 
reward. The computational work required is deliberately 
inefficient, and it requires increasing amounts of energy 
consumption as more minors compete.
    Now today, Bitcoin consumes more electricity than countries 
like Sweden and Pakistan. That is a country with more than 220 
million people. In fact, a single Bitcoin transaction uses the 
same amount of power as the average U.S. household uses in 72 
days, and a single large crypto mining facility, typically a 
warehouse filled with rows and rows of servers, can consume as 
much energy as a quarter of a million houses in the same period 
of time.
    So Secretary Granholm, one of your key responsibilities is 
to address energy challenges facing our country. Does the 
Federal Government currently know how many crypto miners are 
operating in the United States and how much energy they are 
consuming?
    Secretary Granholm. No. The DOE does not explicitly track 
electricity consumption associated with cryptocurrency 
operations, and I would love to work with you on making sure 
that this happens.
    Senator Warren. Well I am glad to hear that because I am 
really concerned if we are not tracking this information, 
because the one thing we do know is that more and more Bitcoin 
mining operations are moving offshore. Between 2019 and 2021, 
the United States' share of global mining increased from 4 
percent to 35 percent, meaning that over a third of the global 
computing power dedicated to bitcoin mining is now drawn from 
computers in the United States that are spitting out random 
numbers around the clock.
    Mining is increasing emissions from coal and natural gas 
generation, especially when miners bring old, polluting, fossil 
fuel plants around the country online. It also is driving up 
electricity prices for consumers and small businesses in those 
same communities. That is why I have written to several of the 
largest crypto miners in the United States, asking them for 
information about the environmental impacts of their 
operations. But I think that our agencies can do more here as 
well.
    So Secretary Granholm, I know that you are working with 
other agencies on a report on crypto's climate impact as part 
of the President's Executive order on digital assets. Do you 
think it would be valuable if we had additional information 
about the impact of cryptocurrencies on our environment and on 
our energy grid?
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely.
    Senator Warren. You want to elaborate on that?
    Secretary Granholm. I mean, it is critical to understand 
the strains upon the grid, especially as we face increased use 
of the grid for other purposes. I mean, the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure law gave us funding to be able to expand the 
capacity of the grid, but the projections of the expansion of 
the capacity of the grid that most modelers use have not taken 
into full account the huge energy suck that cryptocurrency 
represents.
    While we add electric vehicles to the grid, for example, we 
have also got to take a look at these other uses because that 
will require significant additional resources to be able to 
respond to if we do not do something else.
    Senator Warren. Thank you. You know, addressing crypto's 
risks is not just a job for financial regulators. It is a job 
for climate regulators as well. Crypto mining could undermine 
our progress to fight climate change, and I look forward to 
working with you to keep that from happening.
    Before I close I would just like to turn to you very 
quickly, Ms. Hruby. We have gone over this in previous hearings 
but I want to reiterate to my colleagues that I remain deeply 
concerned about our pit production plans. Many of these 
problems I know predate your tenure, but let us be clear here. 
NNSA does not know how much this program will cost, the costs 
we do know about have doubled in a matter of months, and now 
your office is already asking for a half a billion dollars more 
than the budget request, even though the Nuclear Weapons 
Council has said it will not bring us any closer to reaching 
our production goals by 2030.
    NNSA has had a terrible record of mismanagement and it 
seems too likely that this will be another case study in 
wasting billions of dollars in taxpayer money.
    So I am out of time but I just want to register that 
concern.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
being here today.
    Secretary Granholm, approximately 20 percent of our grid is 
nuclear. Correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Correct.
    Senator Tuberville. How many of our nuclear plants will 
reach the end of their lifespan in the next 20 years?
    Secretary Granholm. That is our concern, is that a good 
number of them, whether they reach the end of their lifespan or 
there may be communities that decide that they want to go in a 
different direction. We want to keep our nuclear fleet afloat, 
which is why we just issued a civilian nuclear credit to be 
able to do that. We want to make sure that we have got 
additional nuclear opportunities.
    Senator Tuberville. So basically a major of them in the 
next 20 years----
    Ms. Hruby. It is a good----
    Senator Tuberville.--running their last. Thank you.
    Next-generation energy. So we are going to try to double 
our energy capacity, keep it carbon neutral, and retire 20 
percent of the cleanest energy sources on the grid. That is 
what we are going to try to do. That is our plan.
    Secretary Granholm. I would not say that we are going to 
try to retire 20 percent. We want to be able to replace those. 
We want to be able to add additional advanced nuclear 
opportunities.
    Senator Tuberville. You know, many Americans are fearful of 
nuclear power. They have a right to be. Most of us grew up in 
this era. You know, decisions made by the Atomic Energy 
Commission and Congress in the 1960s and 1970s prioritized 
economics and building nuclear weapons over safety. It was not 
very safe.
    Are you familiar with the thorium molten salt breeder 
reactor that Oak Ridge successfully tested in the '60s?
    Secretary Granholm. I am familiar that they did, yes.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. Thank you. Alvin Weinberg, who was 
the director of Oak Ridge and worked on the original Manhattan 
Project, called the thorium reactor, quote, ``only a little 
less important than the discovery of fission,'' end quote. That 
is pretty important. It is one of the safest designs ever 
tested. In fact, a molten salt breeder reactor based on a 
thorium cycle cannot melt down--it is not like the reactors 
that we use nowadays--and it actually consumes nuclear waste.
    At its heart, this reactor contains uranium-233. We have 
the world's largest supply of uranium-233 right in Oak Ridge, 
Tennessee. I think you are familiar with this. But your 
Department was tasked to irreversibly destroy our supply of U-
233. Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We are diluting and disposing of 
it.
    Senator Tuberville. Down-blending it. Yes. Thank you very 
much.
    So we are spending $50 million a year to down-blend and 
destroy this resource when, in fact, in 2008, the Department of 
Energy issued reports cautioning that we should not destroy 
uranium-233. Have you read these reports?
    Secretary Granholm. I have not read that one from 2008.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. In fact, in 2008, the report 
calls U-233 an irreplaceable natural resource. Congress has 
asked ranchers on this. Are you familiar with that, we have 
asked ranchers? Okay, and appropriations bill in 2021 required 
the DOE to inform Congress about the potential of 233. Do you 
know when this report was due, Ms. Granholm?
    Secretary Granholm. When was it due?
    Senator Tuberville. 2021. I do not know why, but this 
report is still not finished, and to me it is a very important 
report. If we are going to do away with gas and we are going to 
try to cut back on our oil supply, we have got to find some way 
to generate more power in this country, clean power. We are all 
for that.
    My colleague, Senator Warren, and I do not see eye to eye 
on a lot of things, but we do agree on how egregious the 
mismanagement and disregard for civilian oversight is within 
our Department of Energy. We have got to pay attention to 
facts, and these are facts that our scientists--we all want to 
follow science--this is facts that scientists have come up 
with. We have a national treasure that could solve our nation's 
clean energy problems and also have been proven invaluable in 
the fight of cancer, and we are destroying it. It's by our own 
admission the Department of Energy says destroying U-233 is a 
terrible, terrible mistake, and we just seem to be overlooking 
it.
    Yesterday, Senator Marshall and I introduced a bill to save 
U-233 called the Thorium Energy Security Act, and I hope and 
pray that this body will halt the Department of Energy from 
down-blending this to give us an option to making clean energy 
for our kids' future, for our grandkids' future, and all of us 
in the future, because we see what is happening as we speak 
with all the problems that we are having with cutting off our 
energy supply and oil supply all at one time. We have to have a 
plan to make amends for that that we are not using.
    Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the 
witnesses. It is great to be together with both of you.
    Last week I co-chaired a Seapower and Readiness 
Subcommittee hearing, together with Senators Hirono, Cramer, 
and Sullivan, and we talked about the challenges facing 
implementing the Shipyard Industrialization Optimization 
Program, this long-term modernizing and recapitalization of the 
Navy's century-old public shipyards. In a similar vein, the 
origins of many of our nuclear Federal research labs and 
development facilities--Sandia, Los Alamos, Lawrence 
Livermore--date back to World War II.
    Last year we had testimony by Admiral Caldwell, and he 
noted, quote, ``Without recapitalization of our facilities we 
will be unable to effectively support nuclear fleet operations 
and advanced research and development (R&D) efforts at the 
level required by this complex technology.''
    Does the Department have a master plan that would be an 
equivalent to the SIOP [Shipyard Industrialization Optimization 
Program] on the shipyard side for the recapitalization and 
modernization of our facilities?
    Ms. Hruby. Let me address the naval reactors part of that. 
As you know, there is more than one organization that takes 
care of those. We do not take care of the shipyards but we do 
take care of the propulsion capabilities in the Naval Reactors 
Program with NNSA. We are putting a lot of money into doing 
just what you say, to making sure we are building test 
facilities so that they are modern and consistent with the new 
propulsion systems that are coming online. We are building the 
spent fuel handling facility that will allow us to deal with 
the larger reactors that are used in our fleet today. We are 
increasing our R&D budget in Naval Reactors. As Admiral 
Caldwell says, we can no longer assume that we will have the 
best systems in the world if we do not invest in R&D.
    So I feel that the fiscal year 2023 budget for naval 
reactors is paying a lot of attention to the research and the 
facilities that we need for naval propulsion going forward.
    Senator Kaine. Ms. Hruby, let me just follow up on that. I 
appreciate that we are making investments. I guess the thing 
about the SIOP that interests me, on the Navy side, is there is 
this 20-year master plan and every year they make investments 
against it, and we can measure against the plan. Are we 
proceeding according to the plan? Are we making the progress? 
We hope.
    So I understand we are making investments in the 
infrastructure you described but are those investments pursuant 
to a 10-year master plan or a 20-year master plan that would 
enable us to measure how the investments we are making will get 
us to the endpoint that we want?
    Ms. Hruby. Senator Kaine, I would like to talk to Admiral 
Caldwell some more about this and get back with you.
    Senator Kaine. That would be helpful. I mean, just as an 
example, NNSA estimates that the reactor plant design for the 
Columbia-class subs will be completed by 2027, so the design 
will be completed by 2027. I just wonder, are we making the 
investments that will enable us to get to that point? So again, 
how the investments match up against the plan is what I am 
interested in.
    Secretary Granholm, one question for you. There is only a 
handful of universities in the country that have a four-year 
nuclear engineering program, 17. While there are approximately 
47,000 mechanical engineering graduates and 17,000 computer 
engineering graduates annually, there are historically less 
than 950 graduates from a nuclear engineering program every 
year.
    So whether the field is nuclear engineering or applied 
mathematics and physics, I worry about whether the pool of 
talent for the important missions of your secretariat and the 
related agencies is potentially shallow. What are you doing, if 
anything, to focus on the needs of the workforce in this area?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. Thank you, Senator Kaine. It is 
really a very large concern across all the scientific 
enterprise, right, including our national labs. We want to make 
sure we have got enough STEM [science, technology, engineering, 
math] graduates as well as nuclear scientists to be able to 
fulfill the mission. I know that Under Secretary Hruby has been 
taking action the NNSA side. I can tell you that we have ramped 
up our efforts at recruitment, at showing up at universities to 
directly pitch. We have engaged in new relationships with HBCUs 
[historically black colleges and universities] and MSIs to be 
able to ensure that we have a diverse pool of scientists and 
engineers.
    The point is we want to make science, technology, 
engineering, math, of course, leaning into nuclear, exciting. I 
think that the openness now on the civilian side to look at 
nuclear as power, advanced nuclear reactors, et cetera, has 
created a great awareness. Obviously, the skills that come from 
the military are very prime and a lot of where we get our 
workforce. But we are looking at every avenue to increase 
recruitment and increase the pipeline of those who are 
interested in this as well.
    I do not know if you want to say anything further, Ms. 
Hruby.
    Senator Kaine. I am over my time, but I appreciate that 
answer, Secretary, and I can tell the Administrator was jumping 
in to say the same thing, so this is on your radar screen.
    Ms. Hruby. It definitely is.
    Senator Kaine. That is very apparent. Thank you so much. I 
will yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to both of 
the witnesses for being here.
    Administrator Hruby, let me start with you. As you know, we 
are very proud, in the state of Missouri, of the work that is 
done at the Kansas City National Security Campus to support the 
nation's nuclear enterprise. I just wonder if you can give me 
an update on the NNSA's efforts to ensure that the Kansas City 
campus has the capacity it is going to need, the additional 
capacity it is going to need to meet production requirements in 
the coming years.
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Senator Hawley. We are also very 
proud of the Kansas City National Security Campus, and I am 
pleased to report we are making good progress on expanding 
capacity and moving towards the purchase of facilities and land 
that could help us in the future make sure that we are right-
sized at Kansas City.
    Senator Hawley. Good. Very good.
    Secretary Granholm, today in the state of Missouri the 
average price of gasoline, today, as of this morning, is $4.10. 
The average price of diesel is $5.18. I am sure you have seen 
the reporting this morning that now AAA is projecting that gas 
prices will hit a national average--average--of $6 a gallon by 
the month of August. Is this acceptable to you?
    Secretary Granholm. No, it is not, and you can thank the 
activity of Vladimir Putin for invading Ukraine and pulling, 
especially those barrels----
    Senator Hawley. Oh, nonsense. With all due respect, Madam 
Secretary, that is utter nonsense. In January of 2021, the 
average gas price in my state was $2.07. Eight months later--
eight months later--long before Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, 
that price was up over 30 percent, and it has been going up 
consistently since. What are you doing to reverse this 
Administration's policies that are drawing down our own supply 
of energy in this country, that are throttling oil and gas 
production in the United States of America? What are you doing 
about it?
    Secretary Granholm. With respect, sir, it is not 
Administration policies that have affected supply and demand.
    Senator Hawley. How can you say that when the price of gas 
was up over 30 percent from January----
    Secretary Granholm. If you could let me answer.
    Senator Hawley. Answer my question, and it is my time, 
Madam Secretary. So why do you not answer my question? From 
January to August, the price of gasoline was up over 30 
percent, in my state alone. It has been a continuous upward 
tick since then. Here is what your President did when he first 
came to office. He immediately reentered the Paris Climate 
Accord. He cancelled the Keystone Pipeline. He halted leasing 
programs in ANWR [Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]. He issued a 
60-day halt on all new oil and gas leases and drilling permits 
on Federal lands and waters. That is nationwide. That accounts, 
by the way, for 25 percent of U.S. oil production. He directed 
Federal agencies to eliminate all supports for fossil fuels. He 
imposed new regulations on oil and gas and methane emissions. 
Those were all just in the first few days. Are you telling me 
that has had no effect on our energy supply?
    Secretary Granholm. I am telling you that 94 percent of the 
oil and gas executives that were surveyed by the Dallas Fed 
said that Administration policies had nothing to do with the 
increase in the price of oil, and therefore the price of 
gasoline.
    Senator Hawley. I am not interested in the opinions of 
these people. I am interested in the facts.
    Secretary Granholm. Those are the people who are running--
--
    Senator Hawley. Are you telling me----
    Secretary Granholm.--the oil and gas industry----
    Senator Hawley.--that these policies had no effect?
    Secretary Granholm. I am telling you that they had no----
    Senator Hawley. Is that your testimony----
    Secretary Granholm.--impact.
    Senator Hawley.--that these policies had no effect?
    Secretary Granholm. I am telling you--I am telling you----
    Senator Hawley. Are you telling me--Madam Secretary, are 
you telling me, under oath, that these policies had no effect?
    Secretary Granholm. I am telling you that 94 percent of the 
oil and gas industry----
    Senator Hawley. I am not interested in their opinion.
    Secretary Granholm.--executives say that they had no 
effect.
    Senator Hawley. I am interested in the facts.
    Secretary Granholm. So no, they did not. Ask Vladimir 
Putin----
    Senator Hawley. That is a remarkable statement.
    Secretary Granholm.--about the increase in demand and the 
decrease in supply from pulling Russian barrels of oil off the 
market, thanks to, rightly, the United States saying we are not 
going to take Russian oil, coming out of COVID----
    Senator Hawley. So what explains----
    Secretary Granholm.--coming out----
    Senator Hawley.--the increase between January and August of 
2021?
    Secretary Granholm.--coming out of COVID--coming out of 
COVID there was an increase in demand because people were 
driving again. When there was no demand the prices dropped. 
That is a basic law of economics. The prices dropped----
    Senator Hawley. I have to say, Madam Secretary, with all 
due respect, your answers are insulting, and they are insulting 
to the people of Missouri who are looking for action. Now you 
said 2 months ago your Department was on war footing. What are 
you doing to bring down the price of gasoline, which has been 
going up consistently since you took office?
    Secretary Granholm. The price of gasoline is derived from 
the price of oil. The price of oil is at $110 a barrel, and it 
is trading----
    Senator Hawley. What are you doing to decrease it----
    Secretary Granholm.--on a global market.
    Senator Hawley.--is my question.
    Secretary Granholm. Sir, if you could let me finish.
    Senator Hawley. If you would answer my question.
    Secretary Granholm. I am answering your question, sir. Oil 
is traded on a global market. We are paying extremely high 
prices today, just as they are in Japan.
    Senator Hawley. What are you doing to get it down?
    Secretary Granholm. Just as they are in Germany. Just as 
they are in South Africa.
    Senator Hawley. What are you doing to get it down?
    Secretary Granholm. We are calling for an increase in 
supply. We are releasing a million barrels----
    Senator Hawley. From whom?
    Secretary Granholm.--a day from the Strategic Petroleum 
Reserve to try to balance out supply and demand.
    Senator Hawley. Who are you calling for an increase in 
supply from?
    Secretary Granholm. It is the largest tool that we have to 
be able to do that.
    Senator Hawley. Who are you calling for an increase----
    Secretary Granholm. Our allies are also----
    Senator Hawley.--in supply from?
    Chairman Reed. Excuse me. Senator Hawley, your time has 
expired.
    Senator Hawley. Could I get an answer to this question, Mr. 
Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. Senator----
    Senator Hawley. Who are you calling for an increase in 
supply from?
    Secretary Granholm. From our domestic oil and gas 
manufacturers. From international oil and gas manufacturers.
    Senator Hawley. Even as you cancelled their leases?
    Chairman Reed. Senator Hawley, if you want an answer you 
have to allow the Secretary to answer.
    Secretary Granholm. I said, we have called repeatedly for 
increases in supply from domestic oil and gas manufacturers, 
from international oil and gas manufacturers. We want to 
increase supply, and that is why the President released an 
unprecedented amount from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and 
our international allies also released from their reserves to 
try to balance out supply and demand while the oil and gas 
companies increase supply. The Energy Information 
Administration has projected that they will have increased, in 
the United States, about a million barrels a day by the end of 
this year.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    Senator King, please. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Senator 
King, please.
    Senator King. Just for the record, Secretary Granholm, I 
was in Germany about six weeks ago and gasoline was $8.50 a 
gallon. Was that President Biden's fault?
    Secretary Granholm. It was not.
    Senator King. Is gasoline at similar levels in Japan and in 
other areas of the world right now?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, sir. It is traded on a global 
market, as you have noted.
    Senator King. As you say, it is a global market that a 
President of the United States has very little control over one 
way or another. Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. That is correct.
    Senator King. Ms. Hruby, totally different subject. The 
basis of our deterrent policy, which is the bedrock of our 
defense policy, is capacity and credibility. We have not 
tested, and do not test, and I am okay with that, but my 
question is, how confident can we be in the non-testing regime 
of computer modeling to maintain the credibility of our nuclear 
deterrent?
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Senator King. I think we could be 
highly confident. We have both a very sound science-based 
Stockpile Stewardship Program and an annual process to assess 
the reliability of our systems. Year after year our lab 
directors assess, very carefully, the reliability of the 
program of our weapons without testing and assure us we have 
safe, secure, and reliable systems.
    Senator King. We are assured. Are our adversaries assured? 
In other words, basically I am asking--my question is does the 
non-test regime, the non-physical, destructive test regime 
maintain the credibility of the deterrent in the eyes of a 
potential adversary? In other words, do they believe our 
computer models?
    Ms. Hruby. Well, it is not just computer models. The answer 
is I believe that the world understands that we have very safe, 
secure, reliable, credible nuclear weapons, and they are an 
effective deterrent.
    I also just want to add that we do many things besides 
model. We do subcritical experiments. We do laboratory-based 
experiments, and we have a large test database to draw on, and 
we use that over and over again to assure ourselves--and we are 
skeptics. You know, that is our role is to make sure that we 
can be absolutely certain, and we believe ourselves, and the 
world should believe us.
    Senator King. Thank you. That is what I wanted to hear. 
That was my concern.
    The second level of concern, again, to go back to 
deterrence, deterrence rests upon mutual rationality, if you 
will, that the adversary knows that they would be destroyed if 
they utilized a nuclear weapon. The concern is that that theory 
does not work with a non-state actor, and I am deeply concerned 
about nuclear materials falling into the hands of terrorist 
groups, of non-state actors.
    I hope that we have a Plan B involving sensors, detection, 
intelligence to deal with that threat, because all the 
nonproliferation efforts that we make, which are positive and 
good, there is still the danger of nuclear material, now that 
we know Iran, by virtue of us having abrogated the agreement, 
has vastly shortened their breakout time. Talk to me about how 
we deal with the threat of proliferation to a non-state actor 
of nuclear materials.
    Ms. Hruby. Yes. We still firmly believe that eliminating 
threats is the best path, and we have, in our nonproliferation 
program, on our Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation Program, a 
significant effort to secure materials around the world with a 
large variety of countries. Of course, we work not only with 
allies and partners but with adversaries on those programs. In 
fact, the fiscal year 2023 budget has an increase in our 
Counterterrorism Program. We still believe we have to pay 
attention to that while we pay attention to Russia and China.
    So we are locking up, removing, eliminating materials. That 
is the bread and butter of our Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation 
Program.
    Senator King. I hope you will have urgent attention to that 
question because that is a true nightmare. As I say, the theory 
of deterrence does not work in that case so we need to be 
thinking about all the other provisions, which you have 
mentioned.
    Final quick point, and this is not really a question. But 
we talked earlier about cyber. A group of us here have worked a 
lot on cyber in the last couple of years. I have two 
suggestions that derive from the work that we have done. One is 
red-team the hell out of your systems. You really do not know 
how vulnerable you are until you have somebody really good try 
to hack it in a friendly way. That is number one.
    Number two, 85 or 90 percent of successful cyber intrusions 
start with the desktop, with somebody hitting a phishing email, 
and that is an individual decision at the desktop, and all the 
technology in the world is not going to prevent that.
    I have a friend in the energy business. In his company they 
send fake phishing emails to their staff. If you hit on it once 
you are reprimanded, twice you are in the CEO's [Chief 
Executive Officer] office, third you are gone. I think there 
has to be some real urgent pressure on staff to be careful 
about what they do at their own desktop.
    Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Hruby, I 
want to come to you. NNSA announced that it cancelled 
solicitation for the management and operations (M&O) at Y-12 
and Pantex, and then they are looking at separate management 
contracts, and they are going to handle these separately after 
they have a new M&O [management and operations] established. 
Then they are going to take the existing contractor and make 
them the overseer. Sounds complicated, does it not, and really 
sounds like quite a mess, does it not?
    So I agree. I know you have heard today from others about 
the instability of the contracting processes for NNSA, and I 
think that we deserve better. Our nation deserves better, and 
they deserve more consistency. Tennesseans that are working up 
there want to know how this is going to affect their mission, 
day in and day out, and what their expectation is. They deserve 
some dependable, competent leadership.
    So what is the timeline for awarding that for Y-12? What 
are you looking at?
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. Let me just say 
that I could not agree more. While this sounds complicated the 
intention is to get long-term stability and reward our M&O 
contractor workforce----
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    Ms. Hruby.--which does the work of NNSA. Make no doubt 
about it----
    Senator Blackburn. All right.
    Ms. Hruby.--that is the people who we count on.
    Senator Blackburn. Then what are the local management 
implications of what you are doing, the path you are going?
    Ms. Hruby. Right now, Pantex and Y-12 share a field office.
    Senator Blackburn. I know what the setup is. I am asking 
about the long-term implications. What are those? What are the 
cost implications?
    Ms. Hruby. Okay.
    Senator Blackburn. Are you doing this and pushing back on 
infrastructure, because that is imperative, as you know, and 
there is a backlog that we are waiting to have addressed.
    Ms. Hruby. Yes. This is in order to get dedicated 
leadership at Y-12 and at Pantex because of the tremendous 
workload that we are asking of those facilities, separate 
dedicated leadership. It may cost a little bit more, but it is 
worth it because we have to make sure that we can deliver.
    Senator Blackburn. And timeline?
    Ms. Hruby. We expect that the first RFP [request for 
proposal] will be out this year. We will have that awarded in 2 
years, and we will then, one year later----
    Senator Blackburn. So we are 3 years away from seeing 
consistency, is what you are telling me.
    Ms. Hruby. We are, but let me----
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Let me move on. You know that that 
is unacceptable, and you know that that is not fair to the Y-12 
employees. But let us continue to discuss that and to work on 
that issue.
    Secretary Granholm, Senator Tuberville mentioned uranium 
processing, and of course the processing facility in Tennessee 
is one of our largest construction projects, and, you know, it 
gets held up time and again with budget by indecision, and the 
UPF was to come in in 2025 at $6.5 billion. That is no longer 
what is estimated, and the expectation is that it will come 
online in August 2026. Is that when you expect to deliver UPF?
    Administrator, are you wanting to answer that?
    Ms. Hruby. Yes, let me jump in. The answer is yes, that is 
our plan, and we are looking closely right now, independent 
experts, at any cost implications.
    I just want to say, for $6.5 billion project executed over 
8 years during COVID and during all the supply chain issues we 
have, we feel this project is incredibly successful.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, you mentioned yesterday, you told 
one of my colleagues that an 8-month delay was a commendable 
accomplishment, and I really disagree with that comment. But we 
are going to continue to work on it.
    Madam Secretary, I want to come back to you on the issue of 
transportation fuel because that is a top topic. With the 
estimate being $6 a gallon during January, we get asked about 
this every single day--every single day. So what are you doing 
every day to increase production, because you are eliminating 
leases, you are eliminating drilling on Federal land. Senator 
Hawley went through the litany of steps that you all have 
taken, and we hear from people in the oil industry about the 
adverse impact of your actions.
    So tell me what you are doing every day to increase U.S. 
oil production so that we return to being energy independent 
and energy dominant, like we were the day that you went in as 
Secretary.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We agree that we want to increase 
supply. It is why, for example, in the first year of the Biden 
administration more permits have been issued than----
    Senator Blackburn. But you do not give the drilling permit.
    Secretary Granholm. No, we are giving those permits. We 
want to, and we have called upon----
    Senator Blackburn. How many people are working on them? Is 
it one?
    Secretary Granholm. No, it is actually across the 
government. It is over at the Department of Interior. It is not 
in my lane.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. All right.
    Secretary Granholm. But I do know that we have been 
increasing permitting because we want to see increased 
production in the United States and abroad, to be able to make 
up for the lost barrels that have been off the market as a 
result of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
    Senator Blackburn. Ma'am, I would encourage you to stop 
staying that. We are importing 670,000 barrels of oil per day. 
The cost of a gallon of gas, the cost of fertilizer, the cost 
of diesel are at all-time highs.
    Secretary Granholm. I know.
    Senator Blackburn. We need your best effort.
    Secretary Granholm. We are working on this every day to the 
extent we can, given that it is a global market and oil is 
traded----
    Senator Blackburn. It is.
    Secretary Granholm.--on a global market.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am over time.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Kelly, please. Excuse me. Yes, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Administrator Hruby, during your confirmation hearing last 
year I asked you about the need to recruit the next generation 
of scientists and engineers to replace an aging workforce, and 
I highlighted the University of Arizona's relationship with the 
National Nuclear Security Administration through the Minority 
Serving Institution Partnership Program. You said that it would 
be a top priority moving forward, and I appreciate your 
commitment to that.
    As the chair of the Emerging Threats and Capabilities 
Subcommittee on this committee, I held a hearing a couple of 
months back on innovation and the development of emerging 
technologies that will play such a critical role for our future 
national security. A key takeaway for me is that we cannot 
innovative if we do not have a highly trained and skilled and 
motivate workforce to do that.
    So considering that your agency has now achieved its 
highest workforce levels in the last 9 years I have got a 
couple of questions. How much of that increase is attributable 
to new STEM-related recruits and, in your view, are this year's 
numbers the beginning of an upward trend, and is there any 
opportunity to accelerate that?
    Ms. Hruby. We do have a great need to hire in the complex. 
Our complex has about 57,000 employees. A great deal of those 
are in the STEM disciplines. We have to hire to replace 
retirements, and we have to hire because we are growing. As a 
result, we have many pipeline programs, as you mentioned, the 
Minority Serving Institution Programs, other grant programs and 
centers of excellence, and we have announced a program for 
apprenticeships for craftworkers and technicians that we need 
desperately also around the complex.
    So we are very worried about the workforce but we feel like 
we are putting good programs in place to recruit. Like I said, 
both growth and attrition from retirement and voluntary 
attrition.
    Senator Kelly. So do you feel it looks pretty good for the 
next 10 years? Are you on a good trajectory?
    Ms. Hruby. I think we cannot ever take our eye off this. It 
is close. I mean, we feel like this is a real race for talent, 
and we are trying to do things to improve, especially for both 
our Federal workforce and our M&O workforce, we are paying 
attention to pay, benefits, the environment that we offer, and 
we are stressing how important this mission is so people can 
feel good, as they should, about the work they do every day.
    Senator Kelly. Please let us know what we can do to help 
there.
    Secretary Granholm, so as you and Administrator Hruby know, 
as you both know, rare earth metals are vital in the production 
of many of our most complex national security systems, from 
missile guidance systems to night vision goggles, and the list 
is very long, actually, and both nuclear weapons and nuclear 
reactors are on that list. Much like the semiconductor 
industry, a very high percentage of our rare earth metals are 
sourced overseas, causing potentially catastrophic supply chain 
interruptions in our production of these complex systems.
    This is, in part, what led me to sponsor the Restoring 
Essential Energy and Security Holdings Onshore for Rare Earth 
Act of 2022. I know it is a mouthful, and I sponsored that with 
Senator Cotton. This legislation would create a strategic rare 
earth metal reserve to limit the impact of those potential 
interruptions.
    So for either of you, first of all, how vital are rare 
earth metals to the production of our nuclear weapon systems 
and also our shipboard nuclear reactors, and what is the risk 
posed by reduced access to rare earths?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. Thank you for your leadership on 
this. This is a moment where we have to look at all of the 
things that we used to rely upon other countries for when we 
have them within our geographic boundaries. Rare earth minerals 
are critical for the nuclear weapons cycle but it is also 
critical for a whole array of other things, including electric 
vehicles, as you know.
    The President and the invoking of the Defense Production 
Act--and thank you for supporting the supplemental for Ukraine 
which funded that to the tune of $500 million--very important 
for us as we move forward. We will be working with DoD to make 
sure that we are sourcing, doing responsible extraction, 
processing. Your support, for example, of the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure law that allowed for us to put out a funding 
opportunity announcement for processing, because the United 
States does not do any processing of critical minerals either.
    So that whole chain, we need to be doing here. Thank you 
for your leadership on it.
    Senator Kelly. I do not want to go too far over but yes-or-
no answer from each of you. Do you agree it is important that 
we have a strategic reserve of rare earth minerals to hedge 
against potential supply chain issues?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Ms. Hruby. Yes.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. Secretary Granholm, as 
you know--I mean, you follow the news--we are hitting record 
gas prices each and every day. The poorest families in this 
country are being devastated with gas prices. They are being 
devastated with electricity rates, heating oil over the winter.
    I always thought the purpose of the Department of Energy 
was to make us energy independent and hopefully get prices 
down. Since the Biden administration came in office they shut 
down the Keystone Pipeline, they have attacked the oil and gas 
industry, they have made it difficult to get permits. The Biden 
administration has gone out and attacked the oil and gas 
companies, saying they intentionally do not want to drill for 
oil here while this Administration makes it difficult to get 
permits.
    Then the latest is they go to Iran and Venezuela and say 
they want oil from them, and then this week they went and 
relaxed sanctions on Venezuela so they can drill more oil in 
Venezuela but not more oil in this country.
    So can you explain why your Administration makes it more 
difficult for us to drill more oil in this country and why you 
believe it is in our national security interest to get oil from 
Iran, clearly a dedicated enemy of this country and of our ally 
like Israel, and why would you want to do business with Maduro 
who has committed genocide against his own citizens, and 
millions and millions of people have left Venezuela because he 
has forced starvation in his country.
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you, Senator. First, the United 
States will not be importing any oil from Iran or Venezuela. 
Number two, it is really important to know that this 
Administration is calling for increased production in the 
United States and has issued record number of permits for oil 
and gas drilling. Since this President took office, more 
permits issued in his first year than issued in the first 3 
years of the Trump administration. We are now a net exporter of 
oil, which just speaks to the amount of production that we have 
been doing, and we will be at record production by the end of 
this year.
    A survey was done----
    Senator Scott. If that is true how could gas prices be at 
the--if that is true, why would gas prices have gone up like it 
has gone up?
    Secretary Granholm. As you know, oil--and gasoline is 
derived from oil--oil is traded on a global market. The global 
supply of oil has decreased as a result of the Russian invasion 
of Ukraine because they used to be one of the world's largest 
exporters, and countries like the United States have rightfully 
said we are not going to take any Russian oil because we do not 
want to finance Putin's war.
    Consequently, there have been about 1.5 million barrels per 
day that have been taken off of the global market. The citizens 
in Florida and the citizens in South Africa and the citizens in 
Japan are all paying record amounts because it is traded on a 
global market. It is why increasing supply is so important. It 
is why the President has called for 1 million barrels per day 
to be released from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and our 
allies across the world have also called for increases in 
theirs, as we are asking for the oil and gas industry to 
increase production.
    Senator Scott. So what you just said is not consistent with 
what I have been given. So if you could get me all that 
information about over the last, say, 10 years, of all the 
permits. Do you think it is appropriate that your 
Administration says the oil and gas companies intentionally do 
not want to drill for oil?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, I think that some are bringing 
rigs online, and there are some who have said, in shareholder 
calls, that they are holding off on investing in capital to 
favor shareholder buybacks. So it is not consistent across the 
board. But I will say----
    Senator Scott. It has nothing to do with the fact that you 
guys attacked them----
    Secretary Granholm. No.
    Senator Scott.--that you attacked the oil and gas industry?
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely no. We are calling 
repeatedly. I talk to oil and gas industry members all the 
time. We are calling repeatedly for them to step up at this 
moment and increase the rig count. It is historically coming 
back after COVID, where there was a lot shut down, very slowly.
    Senator Scott. Let me go to my next question. Diesel fuel 
prices have hit record highs. Last year it was $3.17. Now it is 
$5.63. I just heard a story from a trucker in Orlando who is 
reconsidering the trucking business because diesel fuel is too 
expensive. He said the cost of diesel has single-handedly taken 
us out of the game, one by one, no matter how big you are. My 
dad was a truck driver. I know how difficult that job is. He 
and my mom did not make much money. They would be doing better 
now until diesel prices went up. So I do not know how a family 
that, you know, is an independent contractor and trying to make 
ends meet is dealing with this.
    What I do not get is, I mean, I do not see that you guys 
are doing anything to get prices down. You look at around this 
country. I mean, people are losing their jobs. Every month you 
are in office gas prices are up. Diesel prices are up. People 
are losing their jobs. I mean, I do not see anything happening.
    Secretary Granholm. We share your deep concern about this. 
For everyday citizens there is no doubt about it. That is why 
we have to increase supply right now. It is why we continually 
call for more investment in rigs to be able to do the 
extraction necessary to get supply up. It is happening all 
across the globe. This is why the inflation numbers, a huge 
number of that, 70 percent, is related to fuel. That is true in 
the United States. It is true all across the world.
    We need to increase supply, even as we accelerate our move 
to clean energy, but we need to increase supply right now to 
address the very concern that you raised.
    Senator Scott. Real quick. If you were in the business and 
your government was attacking--so if you were in the oil and 
gas business and your government is attacking, and the 
President says, ``I want to get rid of fossil fuel,'' would you 
want to go and invest a whole bunch of new money?
    Secretary Granholm. With oil at $110 a barrel I do not know 
that hurt feelings have anything to do with that. I think it 
involves fiscal discipline, as they say, and the decision 
during COVID to ramp back and now to take advantage of these 
high prices.
    However, some area increasing, and I will say this. The 
Dallas Fed did a survey of all of the oil and gas executives, 
and they found, last month, that 94 percent of them say that 
the high prices and the lack of production have to do with 
things other than this Administration's policies. It has to do 
with the price of oil on a global market.
    Senator Scott. It is a pretty good coincidence. It happened 
right after you guys took office. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome to 
both of you. Thank you for your service, Secretary Granholm, 
particularly, your service before the Administration as 
governor of Michigan and as attorney general of that state when 
we had the opportunity to work together. You have done great 
work and I appreciate you being here today.
    I want to focus on the last part of your testimony dealing 
with cybersecurity. We are very excited that you are going to 
be coming to Connecticut tomorrow and visiting the Millstone 
Nuclear Power Plant as well as the State Pier, where more wind 
power is going to be generated. You make the point, I think, 
very, very well in your testimony that--and I am quoting--``we 
have a strategic opportunity like never before while we are 
tackling the impacts of climate change. By deploying the next 
generation of wind, solar, hydrogen, and nuclear systems we can 
build in cybersecurity,'' end quote.
    I would suggest that we need cybersecurity in existing 
industrial control system--nuclear, wind, solar, not only new 
ones but those being built--and as Senator Shaheen highlighted, 
we are vulnerable. In fact, there has been speculation about 
why the Russians have not attacked us in the cyber space. There 
are a number of informed theories about why they have not, but 
clearly, without going into the classified information that we 
have, they potentially have the capacity to do so. I will be 
interested tomorrow to hear and see some of your suggestions 
about how we can safeguard our cybersecurity, particularly on 
nuclear. I wonder if you can discuss a little bit about more of 
the specifics now.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We agree that you have to address 
the existing enterprise as well as build by design, build cyber 
in by design. Both are happening. I know that Administrator 
Hruby has got a whole effort on cyber happening over at the 
NNSA. They have hired an evaluation to happen, and that 
evaluator has identified some points of excellence but also 
some points of challenge.
    The points of challenge involve further investment in the 
workforce, as we have discussed here, as well as in 
infrastructure that will prevent hacking, prevent penetration. 
That includes monitoring. It includes detection. It includes 
addressing on the spot. It includes projection about where 
things are going.
    So all of that must be a really robust part of our 
investments, and we appreciate so much your and the others who 
have raised this issue here because this is certainly not a new 
conversation and it certainly will not be the last conversation 
we have on this.
    Senator Blumenthal. Have you reviewed the security at the 
Millstone plant, cybersecurity at the Millstone plant, and how 
would you assets vulnerability?
    Secretary Granholm. The Millstone, where we are going 
tomorrow, you mean? Yes. I have not yet. I am looking forward 
to coming to learn more as well.
    Senator Blumenthal. Well, we hope that you will give us the 
benefit of your assessment when you finish with your review, 
because cybersecurity there and at every nuclear power plant 
has to be regarded with a tremendous urgency, given what the 
Russians have done in Ukraine in 2015, 2016, and now during the 
invasion at the site of the nuclear power plant there.
    I want to just finish by giving you an opportunity to 
expand a little bit on the questions that Senator Scott was 
asking, and I agree totally that the reluctance to produce more 
is not the result of hurt feelings by the oil companies. Their 
focus is on the bottom line, and perhaps you could expand a 
little bit on why they have not produced more and what can be 
done to persuade them to produce more, even as we go into more 
of renewables. In the short term production might be helpful, 
and their reluctance to produce more now.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. Just briefly, I know we are almost 
out of time, but I think it is a really important point to 
note, that during COVID there was pressure from the investment 
community investing in oil and gas companies to say you have 
got to pull up off of investing in capital and exercise what is 
known as fiscal discipline. As a result, a lot of rigs and 
capital investment came offline.
    When we were coming out of COVID those rigs did not pick up 
to the extent that the demand was there, and they will say in 
large measure it is because Wall Street wanted to take 
advantage of profits, of the profits of the increasing cost of 
oil and gas, due to the increasing demand. Just simply supply 
and demand.
    Then it is compounded, of course, by the pulling off of oil 
on the global market because of the Russian invasion. So a 
million and a half barrels are off the market, and now you have 
got a slow ramp-up due to COVID, and now you have got other 
countries, rightfully so, like the EU deciding perhaps to not 
take on any more Russian oil, and then you will also have the 
opening up of the Chinese market because they are coming out of 
COVID as well.
    All of those compound to create a huge pressure on demand, 
and we want supply to increase. It is not this Administration. 
It is happening all over the world. As Senator King said, he 
saw that gas was $8.00 a gallon when he was in Germany. It is 
skyrocketing across the world, and this is why we are asking 
these oil and gas companies to step up, and our allies to step 
up production right now, to ease that pressure, even as we 
accelerate the move to clean energy, because ultimately a move 
to clean energy is the homegrown, secure kind of energy that 
will make us independent.
    Senator Blumenthal. I agree. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Secretary, 
I was not going to go into these questions but I just have to 
disagree with you. I care a lot about energy, right. It is a 
national security issue. We talk about it here. There has been 
a comprehensive hostility to the energy sector by this 
Administration, not necessarily you, day one. I watch it every 
day. Every day.
    So you are saying we need to increase supply. Let me give 
you just the last 3 weeks. The Department of Interior--again, 
not you--announced that they are taking half of the National 
Petroleum Reserve, set aside by Congress for oil and gas 
drilling in my state, off the table, the most prolific oil 
reservoir in the world right now. Everybody who explores there 
finds billion-barrel fields.
    Secretary Haaland, your colleague, came to Alaska and 
announced half of it is off the table. That is not focused on 
increasing supply. It is the opposite.
    Let me give you another one. Last week Cook Inlet Basin--
okay, that is the other prolific oil and gas field in Alaska--
at the last minute the Biden administration canceled the lease 
sale. That is exactly the opposite of getting supply on the 
market.
    Three weeks ago, the Council on Environmental Quality 
issued new NEPA [National Environmental Policy Act of 1969] 
rules. Everybody and their mother knows what they are. They 
meant to delay energy projects. I read them in detail. This is 
the last 3 weeks--NPRA off the table, Cook Inlet lease sale 
cancelled, and NEPA rules to kill the production of American 
energy. That is what you guys just did.
    Do you have a response to any of that, and I would like 
details. Maybe you do not know, and look, I am not coming after 
you. The Department of Interior is a disaster, from day one, 
and day one President Biden came and said, oh, we are going to 
stop anything in ANWR. He cannot do that. The Congress of the 
United States said there shall be two lease sales in ANWR. 
President, day one, we are not going to do ANWR. Sorry, Mr. 
President. Your job, under the U.S. Constitution, is to 
faithfully execute the law. The laws says two lease sales.
    So you guys have been, from day one--not you, maybe not 
you, not as bad--crushing the energy sector, and it is a fact. 
Rick Scott is exactly right. But can you comment on the three 
examples I just gave. You say you want to increase supply. 
Everything I just said is about directly decreasing supply. 
What about those--NPRA, Cook Inlet, new NEPA rules?
    Secretary Granholm. I hear what you are saying.
    Senator Sullivan. Do you agree with me that those are about 
limiting supply?
    Secretary Granholm. No. It is about limiting supply.
    Senator Sullivan. Of course they are. When you take leases 
off the table----
    Secretary Granholm. But maybe there are other concerns why 
a lease might be taken off the table in a sensitive 
environmental area. Maybe it has nothing to do with----
    Senator Sullivan. Half of the National Petroleum Reserve of 
Alaska?
    Secretary Granholm. You know, this is not my lane so----
    Senator Sullivan. Cook Inlet?
    Secretary Granholm. I understand that there was no interest 
on the part of----
    Senator Sullivan. That is not true. That is fundamentally a 
lie.
    Secretary Granholm. Okay. Well----
    Senator Sullivan. Again, that is not your----
    Secretary Granholm.--again, these are not my areas of 
responsibility.
    Senator Sullivan. How about the NEPA rules?
    Secretary Granholm. Again, that is EPA [Environmental 
Protection Agency]. That is not me.
    Senator Sullivan. No, no. That is the White House, CEQ 
[Council on Enivronmental Quality].
    Secretary Granholm. Well, let me just say this. We want to 
see an increase in supply and we want it to be done in a 
responsible way.
    Senator Sullivan. The actions I just----
    Secretary Granholm. I am just saying----
    Senator Sullivan.--laid out in the last 3 weeks would 
indicate directly otherwise.
    Secretary Granholm. As I said earlier, and maybe you were 
not here for that, but there have been, under the Biden 
administration's first year in office, more permits issued for 
oil and gas drilling than the first 3 years of the Trump 
administration.
    Senator Sullivan. You have 4,600 applications to drill 
stuck at the Department of Interior, 4,600. I recently checked 
on this.
    Secretary Granholm. There are 9,000 permits----
    Senator Sullivan. No. Applications to drill. That is very 
different----
    Secretary Granholm.--there are 9,000 permits out there that 
are sitting unused.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. Look, I just happen to 
fundamentally disagree with you.
    Chairman Reed. Senator, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Mr. Chairman, this is an incredibly 
important issue for the national security of our country. The 
Biden administration is openly hostile to the energy sector, 
and then they try to come in front of committees like this and 
say they are not. It is just not true.
    Let me just ask another one. The President is in Japan 
right now. This is in your area. All of our allies in Asia and 
in Europe want more American LNG [Liquified Natural Gas]. I 
think the President is going to announce something along the 
lines of we should get more LNG. I think you agree with that, 
Madam Secretary. I would like your views. American LNG to our 
allies.
    John Kerry, though, has come out I know to Japanese 
officials saying you should be very careful on buying American 
LNG. Do you agree with John Kerry's approach to going to Asia 
saying, ``Well, you should have reluctance to buying American 
LNG''? I hope you can disavow that. I have heard that from 
Japanese officials, telling me that he is saying that. I mean, 
whose side is this guy on?
    So where are you on the exports of clean-burning American 
LNG to our allies in Europe and in Asia, and do you think the 
President--my understanding is, I hope he does, he is going to 
announce some kind of initiative in Japan this week.
    Secretary Granholm. I cannot preview what he is going to be 
announcing but I will say that we believe that American LNG is 
an important way to help our allies. We, at the Department of 
Energy, have permitted an additional four LNG terminals for 
export to the EU. We also have permitted 30 billion cubic feet 
of LNG, both at FERC and at DOE that have not even begun 
construction yet. We believe that LNG is one way to help our 
allies, and we think it is important.
    We are also encouraged by the fact that many of the 
producers of LNG are eager to use the infrastructure associated 
with LNG to make it hydrogen ready. So both pieces.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. So just real quick. So assume John 
Kerry did tell some Japanese officials to be reluctant to buy 
American LNG. He is not Senate confirmed. He is kind of, in my 
view, a nobody, with a job in the White House that they will 
not even give us any information on how much he has spent and 
how many people he employs. But you are a Senate-confirmed 
Secretary of Energy. Assume he said that. Can you just openly 
reject that and say of course we would want our allies to buy 
American LNG?
    Secretary Granholm. I have the greatest respect for John 
Kerry. I cannot assume anything or believe words put in his 
mouth. I do believe he is doing an amazing job across the 
globe, getting communities and countries to step up to their 
commitments to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions.
    Senator Sullivan. I am just asking to answer a simple 
question.
    Secretary Granholm. I understand you are asking me for a 
hypothetical----
    Senator Sullivan. Our Japanese allies need to know this. 
They have come to me.
    Secretary Granholm. We have spoken with Japan repeatedly, 
and Japan is really interested in forming a relationship on LNG 
in a stronger way. We are supportive of that.
    Senator Sullivan. So buying American LNG would be a good 
thing, not a bad thing.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Thank you, 
Madam Secretary and Madam Administrator.
    We are going to conclude the open----
    Senator Sullivan. Mr. Chairman, can I ask one final 
question? It is not for the Secretary. It is a quick one.
    Chairman Reed. One.
    Senator Sullivan. For Administrator Hruby. Can I ask you, 
the nuclear enterprise that you, Admiral Caldwell, and 
Secretary Granholm are in charge of is really remarkable, and 
the culture there, what we have been able to do in terms of 
nuclear-powered Navy vessels, including submarines is a really, 
really impressive record.
    With regard to AUKUS, which I think is a Biden 
administration initiative that is really, really good and 
really important, and I have been publicly supporting the 
President and his team on that initiative, how do we balance 
the culture and safety of what the nuclear enterprise has been 
able to achieve for our nation, particularly the nuclear Navy, 
with the goals, which I fully support, of broader cooperation 
in that realm with the Australians and the Brits, and are there 
areas beyond nuclear that you think the AUKUS initiative should 
encompass? Madam Secretary, to the extent you want to answer 
that as well. It is an important question, and I want to be 
very supportive of this very important initiative.
    Ms. Hruby. Thank you. Thank you for your support of AUKUS. 
I think the naval reactors folks and everybody on the United 
States and U.K. teams are doing a terrific job during this 18-
month study period, and have found paths through this that will 
preserve and even make better our capabilities and our 
nonproliferation regime. So I am very optimistic about what 
this agreement can do.
    I do think there are other things that would be interesting 
to work on in the U.K., Australia, United States. I think there 
are energy things. I think there are climate things. I think 
there are science and technology, and I look forward to the 
possibility of doing that as this agreement matures.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, if there are things that we can do 
on the committee to help support it we certainly want to do it. 
Madam Secretary, do you have any views on AUKUS or what we can 
be doing?
    Secretary Granholm. No, just to pick up on the energy side 
of things, I know they are going through an election right now, 
but I hopeful that whoever survives that will continue to work 
with us on, for example, hydrogen production. They are doing 
great work in Australia on that, and I am very close with their 
minister, my counterpart, on sharing technology ideas and 
strategies regarding the production but the export of clean 
hydrogen too.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Madam Secretary, Madam Administrator, we are going to 
conclude the open session and we will reconvene at 11:30 in 
SVC-217 for the closed session.
    Before we do that, though, throughout this discussion there 
has been references to the Dallas Federal Reserve Report. It is 
my understanding that the question was asked about what was the 
number one reason, or the primary reason rather, that there was 
not increases in production, and the response, 60 percent of 
those surveyed said it was, quote, ``investor pressure to 
maintain capital discipline.'' Is that accurate, Madam 
Secretary?
    Secretary Granholm. That is accurate. Fifty-nine percent 
said that.
    Chairman Reed. So that is really sort of saying, you know, 
we are going to hold back our capital and give it to our 
shareholders. We will just hold it back.
    Then I believe also too, and if you can confirm this, that 
domestic crude oil output today is less than it was in 2019.
    Secretary Granholm. You are talking about our crude oil?
    Chairman Reed. Our crude oil.
    Secretary Granholm. It is, but we will be at record 
production by the end of this year.
    Chairman Reed. Okay, and then there is 12 million acres, 
approximately, of leased Federal lands that have not yet been 
drilled?
    Secretary Granholm. Correct. Leases on actually over 20 
million acres, on and offshore.
    Chairman Reed. Very good. Thank you very much for that 
clarification.
    At this point we will recess and rejoin in SVC-217. Thank 
you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:15 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                submarine nuclear propulsion with aukus
    1. Senator Shaheen. Administrator Hruby, what is the status of the 
negotiations between the United Kingdom, Australia and the Department 
of Energy's Naval Reactors program regarding the transfer of nuclear 
propulsion technology to Australia as part of the AUKUS agreement, and 
how long do you expect it might take for the technology transfer to 
occur?
    Administrator Hruby.We are approximately 9.5 months into an 18-
month consultation period that will determine the optimal path for 
Australia to acquire nuclear-powered submarines while upholding the 
highest standards of safety, security, nonproliferation, and 
stewardship. Although we cannot provide detailed answers due to ongoing 
trilateral dialogue, the United States is strongly committed to 
supporting Australia in developing the infrastructure to support a 
nuclear-powered submarine capability.

    2. Senator Shaheen. Administrator Hruby, do you anticipate any 
significant obstacles in that technology transfer process that would 
complicate the United States' ability to help Australia procure their 
nuclear powered submarine fleet?
    Administrator Hruby. The 18-month consultation period is being 
conducted to identify key areas of cooperation required to successfully 
transfer nuclear powered submarine capabilities. To date, no 
significant obstacles have been identified, however, there are plenty 
of challenges that we believe can be sorted out over the next about 8.5 
months of study. We understand that the details matter.

    3. Senator Shaheen. Administrator Hruby, can you provide an update 
on our collaboration efforts with the U.K. to develop the PWR3, their 
third generation naval nuclear reactor?
    Administrator Hruby. Naval Reactors maintains close ties with the 
United Kingdom. As part of our nation's commitment to supporting the 
U.K.'s naval nuclear propulsion program, Naval Reactors is exchanging 
naval nuclear propulsion technology with the Royal Naval under the 
auspices of the 1958 Mutual Defense Agreement, an Atomic Energy 
Agreement for Defense Purposes.
    Within the context of AUKUS, leveraging existing United States and 
U.K. technologies will be vitally important to meet that goal of 
bringing an Australian conventionally-armed, nuclear-powered submarine 
capability into service at the earliest achievable date.

    4. Administrator Hruby, has the National Nuclear Security 
Administration determined whether a transition from weapons-grade 
highly enriched uranium to low enriched uranium for naval nuclear 
propulsion systems is feasible?
    Administrator Hruby. Within the context of AUKUS, one of the goals 
of the 18-month consultation period is how best to bring an Australian 
conventionally-armed, nuclear-powered submarine capability into service 
at the earliest achievable date. Leveraging existing technologies will 
be vitally important to meet that goal, and neither the United States 
nor the United Kingdom have naval nuclear reactors that use low 
enriched uranium.
    The R&D roadmap for Navy LEU fuel system development is technically 
challenging and success is not assured in meeting the operational needs 
of the Navy. It will take significant time and considerable fiscal 
resources to identify a HALEU candidate fuel capable of long-life and 
load following operations in a compact reactor. Even if the major 
technical challenges were overcome, an advanced fuel system using an 
LEU core would still be less capable and require naval core refueling, 
standing in stark contrast with today's life-of-ship submarine HEU 
reactor design. This would in turn be followed by substantial 
additional deployment costs and significant operational implications 
for the Navy, bringing the total cost of the effort to tens of billions 
of dollars. Work accomplished to date has narrowed the scope of 
potential fuels and validated the scope and magnitude of the technical 
challenges.
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           Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth A Warren
                             pit production
    5. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, has the National Nuclear 
Security Administration considered developing or already developed 
contingency plans or alternaives to a two-site production plan?
    Administrator Hruby. Prior to the final decision to pursue such a 
strategy in May 2018, DOE/NNSA performed an analysis of alternatives 
and selected the two-site solution as the best alternative to meet pit 
production requirements. This was endorsed by the Nuclear Weapons 
Council (NWC), which noted that the two-site approach bolsters the 
nuclear security enterprise's responsiveness and resiliency. An 
independent study conducted by the Institute for Defense Analyses, 
while noting the difficulty in completing the proposed Savannah River 
Plutonium Processing Facility by 2030, also concluded that creation of 
two geographically separated production facilities supports resilience 
from external threats and hazards and enables flexibility to mitigate 
against shutdowns, incidents, or other factors that may impact 
operations at a single site.
    As requested in H. Rept. 116-449, accompanying the Consolidated 
Appropriations Act, 2021 (P.L. 116-260) DOE/NNSA's Pit Production 
Contingency Plans report to Congress, conveys DOE/NNSA's plan to meet 
the needs of the nuclear deterrent and identifies ways to mitigate 
warhead deliverable risk.

    6. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, when will Los Alamos 
National Lab be able to produce no less than 30 pits each year 
reliably?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA remains focused on developing the 
capability to produce 30 pits per year (ppy) starting in 2026 at Los 
Alamos.

    7. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, is the National Nuclear 
Security Administration confident that Los Alamos National Lab will be 
able to meet its statutory pit production schedule for fiscal years 
2024, 2025, and 2026, of 10, 20 and 30 pits per year respectively? What 
are the risks you see?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA is confident that the path being followed 
at LANL will lead to a production capacity of at least 30 pits per 
year. As with any project of this complexity, there are many potential 
sources of delays, including equipment failures, supply chain 
interruptions, quality issues with vendor-supplied materials, test 
failures, etc.
    The project requires exquisite choreography among three kinds of 
efforts--pit production, decontamination and removal of old equipment, 
and installation of new equipment--with all three often happening on 
the same day in the same room. The integrated team at LANL has become 
adept at quickly revising the choreography in response to inevitable 
disruptions, has become more efficient in its removal and installation 
efforts, and is creative in its effort to recover schedule margin to 
allow for future disruptions. Nevertheless, there remains the risk that 
future disruptions could cause the dates at which LANL demonstrates 
production rates of 10, 20, and 30 pits per year to slip beyond 2024, 
2025, and 2026, respectively.
                   facility and infrastructure plans
    8. Senator Warren. Secretary Granholm, Administrator Hruby, what 
cost savings could accrue if the National Nuclear Security 
Administration concentrated its efforts on completing the Savannah 
River Pit Production Facility as soon as possible in the early 2030s 
instead of building two pit production facilities?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. The benefit of 
achieving rate production at LANL in the 2026 timeframe outweighs any 
potential cost savings from shifting focus. Both facilities are 
required to meet national security needs. DOE/NNSA is well down the 
path of designing SRPPF for a capacity of at least 50 pits per year, 
which does not by itself meet the nation's pit-production requirement 
of at least 80 pits per year. DOE/NNSA has not performed a detailed 
estimate of the added cost of changing the SRPPF design and 
construction project to meet the full requirement of at least 80 pits 
per year, as this alternative was rejected in 2018 in favor of the two-
site approach.
    For SRPPF, DOE/NNSA is examining opportunities for cost savings 
through stimulating special-purpose supply chains and place contracts 
for long-lead procurements.

    9. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, will the Savannah River Pit 
Production Facility (SRPPF) project have contingent production capacity 
beyond at least 50 pits per year? What will be the maximum average 
capacity of SRPPF?
    Administrator Hruby. SRPPF will provide a reliable production 
capacity of no fewer than 50 ppy. It will also be possible to ``surge'' 
beyond the 50 ppy rate for limited periods. Limited surges may be 
accomplished with a ramp up of workforce personnel to support a second 
shift at the facility. Quantitative details about maximum average and 
surge capacities depend on the details of the pit design and 
specifications.

    10. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, why is completion of the 
Los Alamos National Lab Transuranic Liquid Waste Facility so delayed?
    Administrator Hruby. There are two main factors that contributed to 
the delays in the Transuranic Liquid Waste (TLW) facility. The first 
was a required redesign of the TLW facility and the second was that 
construction contract bids significantly exceeded the estimated cost of 
construction and a Congressional notification was required to increase 
project funding.
    During final design reviews as NNSA approached the planned Critical 
Decision 2/3 (CD-2/3), Performance Baseline and Start of Construction, 
approval milestone in the first quarter of fiscal year 2021, it was 
determined that the TLW facility would not meet all key performance 
parameters as designed and necessary design modifications were 
initiated to ensure the facility would meet all specified requirements 
and capabilities. The design modification and associated reviews were 
completed and the request for proposals (RFP) was issued April 21, 
2021.
    In July 2021, two bids were received for the construction contract, 
one of which was determined to be non-responsive and was eliminated. 
The one responsive bid received significantly exceeded the estimated 
cost of construction. Negotiations were initiated with the one 
responsive bidder in September 2021, however, the final negotiated 
price exceeded approved funding. CD-2/3 was approved in January 2022 
and Congressional Notifications were made in February 2022, additional 
funds were made available, and the contract was awarded in March 2022.

    11. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, will the delay in 
Transuranic Liquid Waste Facility completion affect Los Alamos National 
Lab's pit production schedule?
    Administrator Hruby. No. The construction contract for the 
Transuranic Liquid Waste (TLW) Facility (07-D-220-04) was awarded by 
LANL in March 2022. Construction will continue in fiscal year 2023 and 
is scheduled for completion in fiscal year 2027. NNSA does not 
anticipate that TLW construction delays will impact pit production 
schedules.

    12. Senator Warren. Administrator Hruby, why has the cost of Los 
Alamos National Lab Transuranic Liquid Waste Facility increased by $79 
million?
    Administrator Hruby. There are two main factors that contributed to 
the increased cost in the Transuranic Liquid Waste (TLW) facility 
relative to the Critical Decision 1 (CD-1), Alternative Selection and 
Cost Range. The first was a required redesign of the TLW facility and 
the second was that market condition at the time of construction 
contract solicitation resulted in a single responsible bid that 
significantly exceeded the estimated cost of construction.
    During final design reviews as NNSA approached the planned CD-2/3, 
Performance Baseline and Start of Construction, approval milestone in 
the first quarter of fiscal year 2021, it was determined that the TLW 
facility would not meet all key performance parameters as designed and 
a project redesign was initiated. The design modifications were 
necessary to add capabilities to ensure the facility would meet all 
specified requirements. The design changes, along with additional 
contract requirements associated with implementation of Executive Order 
(EO) Executive Order 14042, Ensuring Adequate COVID Safety Protocols 
for Federal Contractors resulted in an increase in the overall cost of 
the facility.
    In July 2021, two bids were received for the construction contract, 
one of which was determined to be non-responsive and was eliminated. At 
the time of the solicitation, market conditions in the area were 
impacted by increased construction in the surrounding tri-state region 
limiting availability of construction contractors and workforces, 
supply chain limitations increasing the cost of construction materials, 
and the ongoing impacts of COVID-19. The one responsive bid received 
significantly exceeded the estimated cost of construction. Negotiations 
were initiated with the one responsive bidder in September 2021, 
however, the final negotiated price exceeded approved funding. Critical 
Decision-2/3 was approved in January 2022 and Congressional 
Notifications were made in February 2022, additional funds were made 
available, and the contract was awarded in March 2022.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky S. Rosen
                  long term funding strategy for nnss
    13. Senator Rosen. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, 
since its inception, the Nevada National Security Site, or NNSS, has 
relied on its large and remote area to conduct missions for the 
nation's nuclear weapons and nonproliferation programs, as well as 
other elements of the national security community. Larger than all 
other NNSA sites combined and equivalent in size to the state of Rhode 
Island, NNSS has a vast amount of infrastructure to build and maintain. 
I am delighted by your recent visits to the Site and welcome the 
excitement and attention your visits have brought to the important and 
unique work being conducted there. However, over the past few decades, 
NNSS has faced unstable and unpredictable program funding, leaving the 
Site with a degraded infrastructure, despite being a facility of 
national importance that is responsible for the certification of our 
nuclear stockpile. I'm pleased that the programmatic situation is now 
changing in a positive direction but remain concerned that we address 
this infrastructure funding issue so that NNSS can continue to be a 
center of excellence for the nuclear enterprise. How are you addressing 
NNSA's infrastructure modernization challenges and delays--particularly 
at NNSS--so they do not impact the agency's ability to fulfill its 
responsibilities, including certification of our nuclear stockpile?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. NNSA fully understands 
the importance of modern infrastructure to ensure a safe, secure, and 
effective stockpile; reduce the risk to mission; and improve employee, 
public, and environmental safety. As you note, NNSA is making 
significant, strategic investments to support the NNSS workforce and 
mission by recapitalizing key facilities. During the last five years, 
NNSA has more than doubled its annual maintenance investment at NNSS, 
going from $28 million in fiscal year 2017 to $64 million in fiscal 
year 2023. NNSA partners with NNSS on vital line-item, minor 
construction, and recapitalization projects to modernize its campus and 
improve resiliency.
    Importantly, NNSA is also investing in new infrastructure for 
sophisticated scientific experiments that are needed to assess the 
performance of new and aged nuclear material. The Enhanced Capabilities 
for Subcritical Experiments program and its associated projects at the 
U1a Complex demonstrate the NNSA commitment to advancing as well as 
sustaining the capabilities at NNSS.

    14. Senator Rosen. Secretary Granholm, are you considering 
innovative approaches to assuring that the NNSS infrastructure is 
supported and recapitalized, including base funding, to guide future 
investment planning?
    Secretary Granholm. NNSA is committed to working with Congress and 
our Management & Operating (M&O) partners to generate meaningful 
progress on infrastructure modernization by maximizing the impact of 
sustained, predictable funding combined with our data-driven, risk-
informed planning and management tools and innovative execution 
initiatives. NNSA is working to transition its successful innovative 
streamlining initiatives into standard construction practices that will 
save time and money, including on larger scale, commercial-like non-
nuclear projects. NNSS is a strong partner in these endeavors, 
particularly the Standardized Acquisition & Recapitalization (STAR) 
initiative, as exemplified by the completion of Mercury Building 1 
which is a net zero, high performance sustainable building, that is now 
part of NNSA's STAR design library. The Mercury facility STAR design 
and lessons learned from NNSS are being used at the Pantex Plant for 
its Flexible Support Facility. Moving forward, NNSA will continue to 
develop and execute innovative approaches to infrastructure management 
and evaluate the most effective funding models for infrastructure 
across the enterprise.
                       remote sensing laboratory
    15. Senator Rosen. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, the 
Nevada National Security Site hosts the Nonproliferation Test and 
Evaluation Complex, the largest facility for open-air testing of 
hazardous materials and biological simulants in the world, which trains 
first responders for nuclear catastrophes. Another equity we're proud 
to host in Nevada is the Remote Sensing Laboratory (RSL) on Nellis Air 
Force Base, which provides radiological emergency response teams along 
the west coast, who stand ready to provide emergency radiological 
response to anywhere in the world with deployable teams of experts. RSL 
has been undergoing a number of upgrades to their equipment, including 
helicopters, detectors, and communications gear, and I'm pleased that 
you visited them during your recent trips to Nevada. Can you speak to 
the importance of the NNSS and the Remote Sensing Laboratory and the 
specialized people and equipment they field? Can you also touch on the 
importance of continuing to upgrade their highly specialized nuclear 
detection equipment? To understand the critical role these men and 
women play, we don't have to look any further than the recent 
deployment of a team due to Russia's targeting of nuclear facilities in 
Ukraine.
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. The Nevada National 
Security Site (NNSS) and the Remote Sensing Laboratory (RSL) are key 
elements of the nuclear security enterprise, particularly in the areas 
of nuclear counterterrorism and nuclear incident response. The 
expertise in radiation detection and data analysis resident in Nevada 
are critical to our ability to provide timely, accurate, and actionable 
public health and safety advice to U.S. decision makers. As such, NNSS 
manages several important facilities and capabilities in support of the 
nuclear security mission.
    NNSS includes an area where four nuclear devices were detonated 
between 1952 and 1957, providing a realistic and safe training area 
where over 200,000 American first responders have trained since 1998. 
Additionally, the Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST) maintains 
specialized equipment and facilities in Nevada for the nation's nuclear 
forensics mission. NEST is responsible for the disassembly, assessment, 
and disposition of nuclear threat devices in support of national 
investigations. In addition to supporting the Stockpile Stewardship 
Program, NNSS provides remote facilities where special nuclear material 
and nuclear components can be staged for testing national security 
detection capabilities and techniques.
    NNSS also maintains a unique on-site capability for developing 
weapons of mass destruction device defeat procedures, tools, and data 
acquisition using large quantities of nuclear material. These 
facilities support international and interagency technical challenges 
and exercises, such as the Small Unit Exchanges with our mission 
partners in the Department of Defense and Department of Justice, as 
well as exercises with the United Kingdom and France. NNSS is the sole 
disposition site for NNSA nuclear forensics and disposition response 
activities required under standing presidential policy.
    Over the last five years, NNSA has committed to modernizing and 
replacing the entire suite of NEST's radiological and nuclear response 
tools, including communications equipment, radiation detectors, and the 
Aerial Measuring System rotary- and fixed-wing airframes. This 
recapitalization will ensure that NEST can maintain its equipment and 
expertise to provide the U.S. Government's most effective and advanced 
nuclear incident response capability.
    RSL has a long history of adapting commercial technologies, 
building custom components, and assembling mission-driven systems to 
ensure the viability of the nuclear counterterrorism mission. The 
facility has developed custom-built, highly sensitive detectors and 
software systems to enable real-time nuclear science expertise and 
nuclear reconnaissance capabilities for U.S. incident response teams.
    In addition to supporting the nuclear incident response mission, 
NNSS' Nonproliferation Test and Evaluation Complex has provided great 
value to NNSA's development of advanced technologies and capabilities 
that significantly improved the United States' ability to monitor 
foreign nuclear weapons development activities.
    Recently, the staff at the RSL have been called into urgent service 
to prepare radiological detectors for use around Ukrainian nuclear 
power plants after the unprovoked Russian invasion. The disruptions in 
reporting of the IAEA radiological detectors as a result of the Russian 
takeover of the Chornobyl and Zaporizhzhia nuclear facilities 
highlighted the critical need to augment existing systems with an 
independent network of remotely monitored sensors.
                energy security and solar investigation
    16. Senator Rosen. Secretary Granholm, the Department of Defense 
(DOD) is increasing its use of renewable energy because it understands 
the connection between energy security and national security. Renewable 
energy technologies, including solar panels, are uniquely capable of 
withstanding extreme weather events and can cut operational and 
military base energy costs. By using renewable energy, we are also 
eliminating our reliance on foreign energy sources and vulnerable 
supply chains for both fuel and electricity. Unfortunately, the solar 
circumvention petition filed by Auxin Solar and the Commerce 
Department's investigation is harming the entire U.S. solar industry 
and threatening our clean energy goals. I understand the Department of 
Commerce says that it is undergoing a quasi-judicial process, and the 
statutory deadline for the preliminary determination is on August 29. 
However, nothing in statute prohibits Commerce from making a decision 
before that date. Do you support a swift investigation and a timely 
resolution to this investigation?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, all parties would benefit from an 
expedient resolution to the investigation that is supported by facts.

    17. Senator Rosen. Secretary Granholm, current U.S. solar panel 
manufacturing capacity can only fill 15 percent of domestic demand. 
What programs at DOE are tackling this problem? And what policy 
proposals do you recommend enacting in order to support domestic 
manufacturing to ensure that down the road we are not as reliant on 
solar imports?
    Secretary Granholm. First and foremost, Congress can enact funding 
in fiscal year 2023 for the proposed $200 million Solar Manufacturing 
Accelerator, as proposed in the President's Budget. This funding would 
accelerate domestic manufacturing to fill key gaps in the domestic 
solar supply chain through domestic sourcing and innovation. In 
addition, DOE's Office of Policy is coordinating a series of workshops 
with domestic solar manufacturers to identify a strategy for utilizing 
the President's recent authorization for DOE to apply the Defense 
Production Act (DPA) to tackle this problem. Solar manufacturers may 
also be eligible to receive capital support through new Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law programs, such as the Advanced Energy Manufacturing 
and Recycling Grant Program. However, ongoing support to offset the 
higher cost of domestic manufacturing is needed. For that, DOE 
recommends Congressional passage of refundable manufacturing production 
tax credits such as those introduced last year in the Solar Energy 
Manufacturing for America Act (SEMA).
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Dan S. Sullivan
                                 aukus
    18. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Hruby, I understand that NNSA and 
Naval Reactors are currently involved in an 18-month study period 
regarding the optimal pathway to deliver nuclear propulsion technology 
to Australia as a part of the AUKUS agreement. The United States has 
only shared nuclear propulsion technology once before, with the United 
Kingdom. Our Naval Nuclear Propulsion Progra is a model of excellence. 
The same can be said for the UK. How you are balancing the need to 
ensure the Australians have the same level of stewardship for their 
program with the need to move out quickly on the terms of this 
agreement?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA is part of a broad interagency and 
trilateral 18-month study period. Nuclear stewardship is a central 
element of the consultation period. The effort will intensively examine 
the full suite of requirements that underpin nuclear stewardship with a 
specific focus on the following areas: safety, design, construction, 
operation, maintenance, disposal, regulation, training, environmental 
protection, installations and infrastructure, industrial base capacity, 
workforce, force structure and--in the case of Australia--IAEA 
Safeguards.
    We continue to analyze multiple options to identify the optimal 
pathway for Australia to achieve a nuclear-powered submarine 
capability. However, since nuclear stewardship is such an important 
part of the culture and safety of operating this unforgiving 
technology, a focus on stewardship will be foundational to every 
decision we make as we work to fulfill the tasking set forth in the 
AUKUS agreement.

    19. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Hruby, the ``nuclear Navy'' has a 
very unique culture within the US Navy. It is the result of a very 
rigorous training and education pipeline. What training and education 
recommendations are you considering to ensure a similar culture exists 
within the Australian Navy?
    Administrator Hruby. The governments of the United States, 
Australia, and the United Kingdom are currently engaging in an 18-month 
consultation period to seek an optimal pathway for delivering a 
conventionally-armed, nuclear-powered submarine capability to Australia 
at the earliest achievable date. Leveraging existing technologies and 
training methods and practices will be vitally important to meet that 
goal. Existing United States and U.K. training and education pipelines 
provide a foundation of understanding for this consultation period; 
however, it is premature to commit to any specific recommendations 
before we review the detailed products of the AUKUS Working Groups. 
Among the considerations being evaluated within the working groups are 
governance and regulatory structures and growing operational 
proficiency to safely operate and support nuclear-powered submarines.

    20. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Hruby, we have been building and 
maintaining nuclear submarines since 1952 but we are currently 
struggling to both build and maintain our nuclear submarines. 
Establishing the industrial base to build and maintain nuclear-powered 
submarines is a significant undertaking. How are industrial base 
considerations factoring into the 18-month assessment currently 
underway?
    Administrator Hruby. One of the goals of the 18-month consultation 
period is how best to bring an Australian conventionally-armed, 
nuclear-powered submarine capability into service at the earliest 
achievable date. AUKUS partners are working together to ensure that key 
elements of safety, security, and regulatory safeguards are 
incorporated in the planning, design, and execution of all aspects of 
AUKUS cooperation. Leveraging existing United States and U.K. 
technologies and industrial bases will be vitally important to meet 
that goal and provide a foundation of understanding, however, it is 
premature to commit to any specific recommendations before we review 
the detailed products of the AUKUS Working Groups. Among key 
considerations for the working groups are factors related to developing 
the engineering and technical depth and experience to safely operate 
and support nuclear-powered submarines.
                        fiscal year 2023 budget
    21. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Hruby, as I'm sure you are aware, 
I've been very critical of the anemic budget put forth by the President 
this spring. In his fiscal year 2023 budget submission, the National 
Nuclear Security Administration received a 3.7 percent increase over 
the fiscal year 2022 enacted. However, if inflation persists at its 
current pace, that 3.7 percent ``budget increase'' would in fact be a 
4.6 percent inflation adjusted budget cut. With our nuclear deterrent 
as the cornerstone of the National Defense Strategy's ``integrated 
deterrence'' efforts, I find this unacceptable. Do you believe an 
inflation adjusted budget cut would inhibit the maintenance and 
modernization of our credible nuclear deterrent?
    Administrator Hruby. The President's fiscal year 2023 Budget for 
NNSA reflects the Administration's robust support for nuclear 
modernization. However, issues facing the broader economy have affected 
NNSA. NNSA has managed the unplanned price increases in the near term 
by drawing down prior year carryover balances, and NNSA will continue 
to do this in fiscal year 2023.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Rick L. Scott
                          oil and gas shortage
    22. Senator Scott. Secretary Granholm, you stated during the May 
19, 2022 hearing in the Senate Armed Services Committee that the 
administration will NOT import oil from Iran and Venezuela. Can I get 
your commitment that the Administration will continue to honor this 
statement and never negotiate with the Islamic Republic of Iran or the 
Maduro regime in Venezuela to import oil?
    Secretary Granholm. United States sanctions prohibit the 
importation of Iranian and Venezuelan oil and I would direct your 
question to the Office of Foreign Assets Control at Treasury and the 
State Department.

    23. Senator Scott. Secretary Granholm, in that same hearing you 
mentioned that the, ``administration is calling for an increased 
production in the United States and has issued record number of permits 
for oil and gas drilling. Since this president took office, more 
permits issued in the first year than issued in the first three years 
of the Trump administration.'' This assertion that American oil and gas 
producers are sitting on unused federal leases is simply not true. This 
administration makes it harder for oil and gas producers to use their 
leases by not acting on pending drilling permits. Further, this 
administration continues to attack the oil and gas industry and create 
uncertainty for companies, which hinders them from making additional 
investments in energy production. What messaging and policy changes 
does the administration plan to implement to encourage domestic energy 
production?
    Secretary Granholm. I and others across DOE and the Administration 
have been consistent on calling for more domestic production. And while 
the majority of oil and gas production happens on private lands that 
the States regulate, the unused permits on federal leases have 
naturally raised questions on whether producers are using all of the 
available mechanisms they may have to increase production. The calls I 
and others have made to increase production have led to many recent 
positive, yet frank discussions with industry. These discussions are 
helping to inform what actions the government and industry may be able 
to take to help alleviate the current tightness in the market. 
Additionally, we continue to call on domestic oil and gas companies to 
ensure they are planning appropriately with storage inventories and 
other appropriate measures that leave them positioned to respond to 
market disruptions due to natural disasters and the shifting energy 
landscape due to Russia's unprecedented invasion of Ukraine.

    24. Senator Scott. Secretary Granholm, you also mentioned that the 
Russian incursion of Ukraine is the cause of increased oil prices for 
consumers and that the President is releasing one million barrels per 
day from United States strategic reserves. What long-term strategic 
problems do you foresee from the depletion of our reserves and what 
policies is the administration implementing to encourage domestic 
mining so that the United States is not reliant on global fuel prices 
and shortages?
    Secretary Granholm. Senator, the Administration agrees that it is 
vital to our national energy security to have a robust Strategic 
Petroleum Reserve (SPR) and we want to maintain the integrity of this 
tool for use in future supply disruptions. Therefore, DOE has already 
taken steps to outline a long-term buyback strategy to methodically 
plan to replace barrels being released through emergency sales. We have 
already announced plans to begin this process in the fall to begin 
repurchase of up to 60 million barrels to be delivered to the SPR after 
fiscal year 2023 when demand and prices are anticipated to ease. 
Delaying repurchase until then will provide industry certainty that 
there will be a buyer for increases in U.S. crude oil production 
between now and then. That is also why we have initiated a Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking that would allow for a competitive, fixed price bid 
approach for repurchase -allowing both industry and taxpayers certainty 
on price and volumes for future delivery. We look forward to working 
with Congress to determine the most effective ways to replenish the 
necessary volume needed to maintain a robust SPR.

    25. Senator Scott. Secretary Granholm, lastly you mentioned you 
would provide the appropriate documentation of all oil and gas permits 
filed in the last 10 years. Can you include this in your response?
    Secretary Granholm. The Department of the Interior's Bureau of Land 
Management regularly publishes statistics on oil and gas leasing and 
permitting on federal lands.
    Statistics on leasing and permitting can be found in a file on this 
page: https://www.blm.gov/programs-energy-and-minerals-oil-and-gas-oil-
and-gas-statistics
    Monthly statistics on the status of applications for permits to 
drill can be found on this page: https://www.blm.gov/programs/energy-
and-minerals/oil-and-gas/operations-and-production/permitting/
applications-permits-drill
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                               contracts
    26. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, to what degree does 
contract instability impact infrastructure investment and drawdown of 
deferred maintenance backlogs?
    Administrator Hruby. To date, M&O contract transitions have not 
impacted infrastructure modernization. Infrastructure stewardship is an 
enduring responsibility that requires long-term planning, stable 
funding, and timely execution to mitigate risk and support mission 
needs. Like businesses across the country, NNSA and our M&O partners 
have experienced supply chain and labor shortage challenges. NNSA is 
working with its M&O partners to find creative solutions to these 
challenges, including by consolidating and streamlining enterprise-wide 
procurement to maximize our buying power and accelerate delivery.

    27. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, how does contract 
instability represent a risk to the cost-effective and timely execution 
of current life extension programs?
    Administrator Hruby. Our M&O contracts have been structured to last 
for up to ten years to provide some significant stability to the 
workforce and to provide continuity to mission work. During an M&O 
contract transition, the vast majority of the workforce, generally over 
99 percent, continues with the new contractor while only a small number 
of senior leaders change. That stability in the workforce helps 
minimize disruptions to the current life extension programs. In 
addition, we build in several months of transition between the 
incumbent and the new M&O contractor to help with continuity. As we 
examine contract competition going forward, we will use continuity and 
ability to deliver program as guiding principles.

    28. Senator Blackburn. What are the Department of Energy and NNSA 
doing to improve the stability and reliability of their schedule for 
releasing draft requests for proposals, requests for proposals, and 
awarding contracts?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. NNSA is committed to 
continuously reviewing its acquisition processes and assessing previous 
M&O contract competitions to look for areas of improvement in schedule 
and streamlining of processes and requirements for each upcoming M&O 
contract competition. NNSA utilizes lessons learned throughout each 
contract action to continually provide improvements to schedule, 
processes, and when necessary, to policy and guidance. The streamlining 
of processes has led to NNSA's unique and complex multi-billion-dollar 
M&O contracts generally being awarded in 24 months or less.

    29. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, what performance 
mechanisms can be installed to mitigate the unpredictability and 
uncertainty in the contracting process?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA's unique nuclear security missions 
require long-term planning, stable funding, and timely execution to 
mitigate risk and support mission accomplishment. Our M&O contracts are 
structured to last for up to ten years, rather than the maximum of up 
to five years in typical federal contracts. During an M&O contract 
transition, the vast majority of the workforce, generally over 99 
percent, continues with the new contractor while only a small number of 
senior leaders change. This helps us retain the critical skills 
required to perform our specialized mission functions and provides 
stability for the workforce. The unique M&O contract structure is 
designed to mitigate the greater level of uncertainty and disruption 
during transition that is experienced on other types of federal 
contracts. Additionally, we have applied lessons learned from many M&O 
contract competitions to tailor contract clauses, streamline proposal 
and evaluation processes, and develop contract transition structures 
that help mitigate risk and provide stability and continuity during 
contract competitions and transitions. As we move forward with the new 
Pantex and Y-12 contract competitions, minimizing disruptions will be a 
very high priority.
                             infrastructure
    30. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, what is a specific 
example of the potential consequences to the stability of the U.S. 
nuclear enterprise if it must continue to rely on aging infrastructure?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA is heavily dependent on aged 
infrastructure for critical mission work. One example is the lithium 
capability which supports nuclear weapon, nonproliferation, and 
counterterrorism programs. NNSA's lithium operations rely almost 
exclusively on Y-12's Beta-02, a 79-year-old Manhattan Project-era 
facility that is in poor condition. The $2.8 billion facility is 
experiencing structural failure, including a 200-pound chunk of 
concrete falling from the ceiling in 2016. However, to rebuild this 
capability is complicated and expensive. The NNSA has a replacement 
planned, the Lithium Processing Facility, but it will not be available 
until the early 2030s. Meanwhile, we are investing to stabilize and 
improve the existing facility so it can be used until then because any 
halt of operations at Beta-02 risks negative impacts to stockpile 
management work, radiation detection, and isotope production.

    31. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, how are budgetary and 
national security issues linked to the billions of dollars reported in 
deferred NNSA maintenance?
    Administrator Hruby. Much of NNSA's infrastructure is in poor 
condition, but we are making progress using line-item and minor 
construction projects in conjunction with strategic maintenance and 
repair investments to reduce risk to our national security missions and 
sustain our enduring infrastructure. Meaningful progress towards 
improving the condition of NNSA's infrastructure will require 
significant and sustained investments during the coming decades. NNSA 
is using data-driven and risk-informed infrastructure tools to enable a 
transition from a financially driven to a risk-driven plan for 
improving infrastructure. New construction will play a large role in 
addressing NNSA infrastructure challenges as so many of our existing 
facilities are well beyond their 40-year design life. In many cases, 
sustainment of such old facilities is not as cost-effective as 
replacement. In fiscal year 2023, we will have a new integrated 
infrastructure plan including the planned major capital projects and 
other infrastructure needs throughout the complex.

    32. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, what are the recruiting 
and retention issues associated with key NNSA facilities not meeting 
modern safety standards?
    Administrator Hruby. Work across the nuclear security enterprise is 
increasing and with this increase we are looking at two challenges in 
successfully meeting our mission. One is recognizing the infrastructure 
across our sites is old and some of the structures should be modernized 
to better support our workforce and execute our mission. To accomplish 
this, we need to be more effective in recruiting and retaining 
qualified staff that will support the mission as well as our 
infrastructure modernization efforts.
    All our facilities meet the safety standards per the approved 
safety basis for operations. However, NNSA is experiencing the 
demographic challenges of a retiring, experienced workforce as we ramp 
up our mission scope to meet expanding national security needs.
    The second challenge is the recruitment, staffing, and long-term 
retention of the workforce to meet and sustain mission needs. The 
nuclear security enterprise is leveraging all the tools available to 
attract and retain employees in today's competitive market and we 
continue to look at new and innovative ways to remain competitive in 
this challenging and dynamic labor market.
    Key priorities identified to meet this need include competitive pay 
and benefits packages, as well as modern office and laboratory spaces 
that make NNSA an appealing place to work, conduct research, and 
develop critical skills while supporting our national security mission. 
We are paying close attention to pay and benefits, the environment our 
staff works-in including facilities, and stressing the importance of 
the mission we do every day. We are also employing strategies that 
offer more remote work options where appropriate.
                            depleted uranium
    33. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, what assurances can you 
offer that depleted uranium modernization efforts are on schedule and 
will not delay nuclear stockpile modernization programs?
    Administrator Hruby. The Depleted Uranium (DU) Modernization 
Program enables the restart of lapsed capabilities to ensure NNSA can 
meet imminent weapons delivery mission requirements. NNSA is 
prioritizing restart of the DU-niobium (binary) alloy production 
capability, re-establishment of a reliable supply of high purity 
depleted uranium (HPDU) metal feedstock, and modernization of binary 
radiation case production to meet near-term demands. To meet long-term 
demands, NNSA has asked Y-12 to begin executing a bridging strategy to 
increase capacity in the existing facilities to meet mission 
deliverables through the late 2030s. NNSA is also developing plans for 
a new Depleted Uranium Manufacturing Complex (DUMC) that will be needed 
to meet capacity requirements starting in the late 2030s. The DU 
Modernization Program employs an integrated master schedule, strategic 
materials model, and risk register with multiple risk mitigation 
actions to manage program execution and align investments with mission 
delivery requirements.

    34. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, what is the status of 
the legacy DU-niobium alloying process, and will NNSA be able to 
produce qualified ingots by October 2023?
    Administrator Hruby. Qualified DU-niobium (binary) alloy is needed 
by December 2023 to meet mission requirements. NNSA's DU Modernization 
Program is restarting the Vacuum Induction Melt (VIM)-Vacuum Arc Remelt 
(VAR)-VAR process to produce new qualified binary alloy to meet current 
and future weapon component requirements. The restart activities are on 
track to meet the December 2023 need date. Y-12 successfully restarted 
the VIM furnace in 2021 and has already begun casting DU-niobium 
``pencils,'' a precursor to the VAR step. NNSA is in the process of 
restarting the VAR, which is planned to be operational in December 
2022. The wrought process to produce radiation case components from 
qualified ingots is already operational.
                               personnel
    35. Senator Blackburn. Administrator Hruby, half the workforce is 
close to retirement-eligible status; what impact does this have on 
NNSA's ability to accomplish its mission?
    Administrator Hruby. The population of retirement eligible NNSA 
Federal employees is provided in the chart below for fiscal year 2022 
through fiscal year 2027. Of NNSA's 1,870 Full Time Equivalents (FTE) 
in the Federal Salaries and Expense (FSE) account, 17.2 percent are 
eligible to retire as of June 30, 2022.



                 NNSA Biweekly Staffing Report--September 8, 2022

    The impact of retirement eligible employees is considered in our 
recruitment and outreach strategy and execution efforts along with all 
other attrition factors. NNSA's recruitment strategy focuses on 
ensuring we have the right people in the right jobs at the right time 
and specific attention is given to mission critical occupations. 
Indicators such as, attrition rates (especially in mission critical 
occupations), years until eligible for retirement, geographic location, 
mission scope changes based on political and legislative decisions, and 
special interest initiatives--such as DEIA, are all influencers to our 
recruiting strategies. By employing this focused approach, we can 
address any potential impacts to the NNSA workforce caused by employee 
retirements.
    Currently, approximately one third of the nuclear security 
enterprise M&O contractor workforce population is retirement eligible. 
In addition, the average tenure across the complex of the M&O 
contractor workforce is 11 years of service. This is tracked closely 
and included in workforce planning projections. NNSA is working closely 
with its M&O partners to monitor attrition of all types, including 
retirement, and to make appropriate adjustments in compensation and 
benefit programs to ensure our M&Os are best postured to successfully 
attract and retain the highly skilled workforce necessary to accomplish 
our vital nuclear security missions now an in the future.
    To be able to continue to execute our mission, we need to be 
successful in attracting new employees and having them be full 
contributors as quickly as possible. Therefore, throughout the 
enterprise, we have increased the number of intern and grant programs 
and the knowledge transition efforts.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Josh D. Hawley
    36. Senator Hawley. Secretary Granholm, you said in your verbal 
testimony that ``it is not administration policies that have affected 
supply and demand.'' Asked to clarify that these policies had no 
effect, you testified ``no, they did not.'' Do you maintain that the 
Biden administration's policy decisions related to energy production 
had no effect on rising fuel prices nationwide? Please explain your 
response.
    Secretary Granholm. The Administration has been clear in our calls 
for more energy production and the critical importance of affordable, 
reliable energy supplies. And not only does the government not control 
prices, but we have not taken any actions to prevent companies from 
producing more oil and gas on private and state lands, the source of 
the vast majority of oil and natural gas production. About three-
quarters of U.S. oil and about 86 percent of the nation's natural gas 
is produced on private and state lands and waters.
    The prior moratorium for new federal leases, where a smaller share 
of oil and gas are produced, did not have a noticeable impact on the 
utilization or percent of federal leases where production is occurring. 
In April, the Administration resumed oil and gas leasing on federal 
lands.
    In their most recent Short-Term Energy Outlook for July 2022, the 
U.S. Energy Information Administration projects that U.S. crude oil 
production will average 11.9 million barrels per day in 2022, a 
significant rebound from the pandemic, and reach 12.8 million barrels 
per day in 2023, a record high.

    37. Senator Hawley. Administrator Hruby, Secretary Granholm told 
the Committee that NNSA cannot produce 80 pits per year by 2030, on 
current trajectory, as is statutorily required. Are you concerned that 
China and Russia might be more incentivized to engage in an arms race 
against us--more than they're already doing--if they know we won't be 
able to keep up?
    Secretary Granholm. The Department of Defense and NNSA work 
together as members of the NWC to ensure the U.S. nuclear weapons 
stockpile is safe, secure, reliable, and effective. Together, we are 
developing strategies that take into account the production limitations 
of NNSA while maintaining the needed deterrence. This will be 
continuously evaluated against Chinese and Russian actions, but I'm 
confident the United States stockpile is a strong deterrent.

    38. Senator Hawley. Secretary Granholm, in 2016 President Obama 
rejected a No First Use policy on the advice of your predecessor, 
Secretary of the Energy Ernst Moniz, and 0ther cabinet officials. Do 
you believe a No First Use or Sole Purpose policy would be prudent 
today, given significant deterioration in the security environment 
since 2016?
    Secretary Granholm. No. As determined through the 2022 Nuclear 
Posture Review, the President has articulated his vision for U.S. 
nuclear deterrence strategy: As long as nuclear weapons exist, the 
fundamental role of U.S. nuclear weapons is to deter nuclear attack on 
the United States, our allies, and partners. The United States would 
only consider the use of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to 
defend the vital interests of the United States or its allies and 
partners.

    39. Senator Hawley. Administrator Hruby, the United States is far 
from where it should be in terms of pit production. Would more 
resources help get us back on track faster, or is there truly no way to 
go faster than we're going right now?
    Secretary Granholm. We assess that no amount of increased funding 
will enable us to reach capacity for 80 ppy in 2030. We are 
investigating the use of existing resources to help accelerate the 
Savannah River Pit Production Facility (SRPPF) to complete it as close 
to 2030 as possible.

    40. Senator Hawley. Administrator Hruby, the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and 
the Commander of STRATCOM, among others, have stated their support for 
the SLCM-N. How long will suspending development delay IOC of the SLCM-
N if the United States chooses to reconstitute that program in the 
future?
    Administrator Hruby. Consistent with the Nuclear Posture Review 
direction, the President's fiscal year 2023 Budget did not include 
funding for the SLCM-N program. Other senior military leaders assess 
that the SLCM-N would not provide enough additional capacity or 
capability to be worth the added expense and risk to the program of 
record. A SLCM-N program would have resulted in additional scope to the 
W80-4 Life Extension Program, which is one likely SLCM-N warhead. 
Adding this scope back to the Program of Record would increase schedule 
risk for the existing Program of Record. Costs are dependent on the 
requirements and duration of the program. The timeline for the program 
would be dependent on Federal and laboratory staffing, the overall 
capacity of the nuclear enterprise to handle yet another project on top 
of the major efforts already underway and planned, and the Navy program 
for developing and integrating the design onto a Navy delivery 
platform. SLCM-N IOC would also depend upon the Navy's ability to train 
staff to resume this mission.

    41. Senator Hawley. Administrator Hruby, given the delay in 
plutonium pit production rate, do China and Russia have an advantage in 
producing and uploading nuclear warheads?
    Administrator Hruby. Establishing required pit production capacity 
as close as possible to 2030 remains a high priority and is required 
for sustaining the effectiveness of the Nation's nuclear deterrent. 
DOE/NNSA is working with subject matter experts from across the nuclear 
security enterprise to identify and mitigate risks to completing pit 
production projects on time. At this point we do not assess that the 
delay to achieving our required pit production rate will have an impact 
on the stockpile or our deterrent posture. Classified briefings on 
assessments of Russian and Chinese capabilities can be provided upon 
request.

    42. Senator Hawley. Administrator Hruby, how does China or Russia's 
edge in expanding their nuclear forces affect strategic stability?
    Administrator Hruby. Though this question would be best directed to 
our colleagues in the Department of Defense and the Department of 
State, NNSA believes that adversaries' efforts to modernize, diversify, 
and expand their strategic weapons capabilities erodes strategic 
stability by creating increasingly complex escalation dynamics across 
multiple domains. To address these risks to strategic stability, NNSA 
actively works with the Department of Defense to sustain and strengthen 
United States deterrence against the dual threats of weapons 
proliferation and competition coming from Russia and China. NNSA 
contributes to these efforts by recapitalizing the nuclear security 
enterprise, including the workforce, infrastructure, production 
capacity and capabilities, and scientific base. Additionally, the NNSA 
works with colleagues at the Departments of State and Defense to 
develop specific risk reduction measures designed to increase 
communication, transparency, and predictability in these strategically 
competitive relationships with our adversaries, in an effort to avoid 
deliberate, inadvertent, or accidental escalation. Collectively, these 
efforts underpin a safe, secure, and effective stockpile, address 
emerging threats, and provide options for future capacity building and 
risk reduction measures. Specific and direct contributions include 
developing technologies for future nuclear weapons monitoring and 
verification regimes and exploring how emerging technologies impact 
strategic stability so that future policymakers are prepared to address 
a range of complex deterrence and national security challenges.