[Senate Hearing 117-922]
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                   THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORT 
                    OF THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON MILITARY, 
                    NATIONAL, AND PUBLIC SERVICE

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                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman	JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma
	
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire		ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi
KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York		DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut		TOM COTTON, Arkansas
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii			MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
TIM KAINE, Virginia				JONI ERNST, Iowa
ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine			THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts		DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
GARY C. PETERS, Michigan			KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia		RICK SCOTT, Florida
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois			MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada				JOSH HAWLEY, Missouri
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  	TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama                                    
                                  
                                     
		    Elizabeth L. King, Staff Director
  		John D. Wason, Minority Staff Director
                                 
                                 
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The Final Recommendations and Report of the National Commission       1
  on Military, National, and Public Service.

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................     1

Statement of Senator James Inhofe................................     3

                           Witness Statements

Heck, Dr. Joseph J., Chairman, National Commission on Military,       4
  National, and Public Service.

Service Year Alliance Statement..................................    42

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  THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORT OF THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON 
                 MILITARY, NATIONAL, AND PUBLIC SERVICE

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 11, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:31 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Gillibrand, 
Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Peters, Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, 
Kelly, Inhofe, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, 
Sullivan, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order. Good 
morning. Today the committee meets to receive testimony on the 
Final Report and Recommendations of the National Commission for 
Military, National, and Public Service.
    I want to thank our witnesses for appearing today and for 
their patience. The Commission actually concluded its work a 
year ago, and the committee had to postpone the scheduled 
hearing due to the pandemic. I think this past year has 
underscored the importance of a shared commitment to the public 
good and the Commission's recommendations resonate even more 
strongly today.
    Today we will hear testimony from the Honorable Dr. Joseph 
Heck, who served as Chairman of the Commission, following a 
distinguished career in the House of Representatives, including 
as Chairman of the Military Personnel Subcommittee of the House 
Armed Services Committee. Dr. Heck also continues to serve as a 
major general in the Army Reserve. Thank you General Doctor.
    The Honorable Debra Wada served as Vice Chair of the 
Commission for Military Service, following her tenure as the 
Assistant Secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs during the Obama administration. Ms. Wada also has over 
a decade of service as a senior advisor and staff member on the 
House Armed Services Committee.
    Finally today, Mr. Alan Khazei served as a Commissioner on 
the Commission, and has extensive background in national 
service programs. Mr. Khazei is the founder and former CEO 
[chief executive officer] of City Year, a precursor to and 
model for today's AmeriCorps program.
    I must also give a shout-out to Mark Gearan, who was the 
Vice Chairman. Mark was a former Director of the Peace Corps 
and the President of Hobart College, and he, along with 
Chairman Heck, did a superb job, along with all the 
Commissioners.
    The importance of the Commission's work cannot be 
overstated. As many of my colleagues will recall, the immediate 
legislative concern that gave rise to the Commission was the 
military Selective Service System (SSS), and whether it 
continues to meet the needs of the Nation today. In addition, 
when the Department of Defense opened all military positions to 
service by women in 2016, the question was raised whether women 
should register for the Selective Service and if there were 
constitutional concerns if women were not required to register. 
As I stated then, I believe that women should be included in 
military Selective Service. In testimony before this committee, 
past military service chiefs testified to their personal 
opinion that women should be required to register for the 
draft.
    Beyond the issue of the Selective Service, the Commission 
also explored ``the means by which to foster a greater attitude 
and ethos of service among United States youth, including an 
increased propensity for military service.'' This is an 
increasingly urgent matter. Today, barely 25 percent of 
America's youth aged 17 to 24 meet military entrance 
requirements. Furthermore, the most recent data from the 
Defense Department reveals that only 10 percent of youth now 
show a propensity to serve in the military, and this figure 
continues to drop, raising the question of how the military 
services can meet future recruiting missions without 
sacrificing quality.
    Of course, as this panel well knows, the issue of service 
is more fundamental than the question of who is required to 
register for military service. It is a question of who is 
expected to serve, who wants to serve, and who will have the 
opportunity to serve, not just in the military but in national 
and public service as well. These are questions of our national 
character and aspirations, and that is why we expanded the 
Commission's mandate to include national and public service.
    The 2003 Report of the National Commission on Public 
Service, a predecessor report, otherwise known as the Volcker 
Report, stated the problem well: ``The notion of public 
service, once a noble calling proudly pursued by the most 
talented Americans of every generation, draws an indifferent 
response from today's youth and repels many of the country's 
leading private citizens.''
    The challenge remains even more urgent today. Years of 
budget constraints have led to furloughs, wage stagnation, and 
low morale among the Federal public sector workforce. Likewise, 
national service programs such as AmeriCorps, the Peace Corps, 
and the Senior Corps are funded today at levels that fail to 
match demand, even as the need is greater today than it has 
ever been. Our national service infrastructure, from the 
military to the Corporation for National and Community Service, 
has been working tirelessly during the pandemic to provide 
testing, vaccinations, contact tracing, even food distribution.
    We, as a government, must be prepared to invest in what is 
truly our Nation's great asset. Those are our public and 
community servants. Service to others and the Nation, whether 
it be military, national, or public service, is a healing, 
unifying, and patriotic act that we need a lot more of today, 
not less.
    I thank our witnesses again, as well as all of the 
commissioners and staff of the National Service Commission for 
their work, their bold ideas, and their call to action for a 
better America and a more hopeful and optimistic future rooted 
in service, and I look forward to their testimony.
    Senator Inhofe, please.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I commend you for 
holding this hearing today and I am very interested in the 
report of the National Commission--I guess there are three 
reports. I am not sure what I am looking at here, but we will 
sure find out--and the recommendations that will come with 
them. The report must be subject to an open debate. We need to 
get everybody in on this deal. I think the American people 
deserve that, and the hearing today is an excellent start.
    Chairman Heck and Vice--I am going to make sure I am 
pronouncing this right, but Vice Chairman Wada--or, Wadu? 
Somebody help me.
    Voice. Wada.
    Senator Inhofe. Wada. Okay--and Commissioner Khazei, 
welcome, and I am glad you are here today. I want to thank all 
the commissioners for the hard work and the commitment that you 
have that is plain in every page of your report. Your work is 
important to the future of our national security.
    I have got kind of a unique perspective, because I was the 
product of the draft. That was a time when I did not want to be 
drafted, and I was a mess. I honestly do not think I would be 
alive today if it had not been for the time that I spent. I 
look at all the problems that we have with young people today, 
and I think, you know, if they had gone through a basic 
training, the way it was in the good old days and all that, I 
just think that would resolve a lot of the problems that we 
have.
    So I have to admit, I come to this meeting with a bias. 
Even our current crisis shows that spirit of service is part of 
being an American, but we must do a better job of educating 
people about what it means to be a citizen of this great 
Nation. We also need to inform people about the many 
opportunities to serve, whether in the military, civil service, 
or local communities, and the benefits of such service to 
themselves and to others. So I look forward to this meeting.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Chairman Inhofe, 
and now Ranking Member Inhofe, for your participation, because 
you were here when we put this Commission together and you 
contributed immensely. Thank you.
    Now I am going to turn to Dr. Heck for his statement, who I 
understand will deliver the statement for the entire panel, 
using the time that would normally be assigned to each witness. 
Dr. Heck, please.

STATEMENT OF DR. JOSEPH J. HECK, CHAIRMAN, NATIONAL COMMISSION 
           ON MILITARY, NATIONAL, AND PUBLIC SERVICE

    Dr. Heck. Thank you. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
and Members of the Committee, on behalf of all of the 
commissioners and our dedicated and talented staff, my 
colleagues and I thank you for the opportunity to appear before 
you today to discuss the findings of the National Commission on 
Military, National, and Public Service. At your desk you have 
three documents, as Senator Inhofe pointed out--the full 
report, an executive summary, and then a legislative annex.
    Congress charged the Commission to review the military 
Selective Service System, and, perhaps more importantly, 
identify ways to increase Americans' participation in military, 
national, and public service in order to address the needs of 
the Nation. Last March, we were honored to submit our report, 
``Inspired to Serve,'' to Congress, the President, and the 
American people. Our work culminated in 164 discrete 
recommendations, reflecting the first comprehensive and 
holistic review of the Selective Service System and all forms 
of service in U.S. history.
    "Inspired to Serve'' reflects 2\1/2\ years of extensive 
research, public hearings, and conversations with Americans 
from all across the country. As part of our work, the 
Commission visited 22 states across all 9 census districts. We 
traveled the country, visiting urban centers, suburban 
neighborhoods, and rural towns. We spoke with elected leaders, 
nonprofit organizations, faith-based communities, military 
officers and enlisted, middle school, high school, and college 
students, those who serve and those who do not. We engaged with 
530 organizations, held 11 public meetings and forums, analyzed 
thousands of public comments, leveraged multiple surveys, and 
convened 14 public hearings to discuss and analyze a wide 
variety of policy proposals.
    In this time of nationwide crisis, we bring a good-news 
story. America's extraordinary and long-standing spirit of 
service continues to shape the life of our Nation. We also 
bring an opportunity. In a country of 330 million people, only 
11 percent of the adult population engages in sustained 
national service, leaving the extraordinary potential for 
service largely untapped.
    Our recommendations offer a bold vision and a comprehensive 
plan that will nurture the spirit of service that currently 
exists into a culture of service, that by 2031, the 70th 
anniversary of President Kennedy's call to ask not what your 
country can do for you but what you can do for your country, we 
have an expectation that all Americans will engage in some form 
of service.
    The coronavirus pandemic has made clear that the United 
States must have a robust, tested infrastructure capable of 
mobilizing the Nation in emergency situations. We need experts 
in government at all levels with the skill and experience to 
address the unexpected. We need the talents and commitment of 
individual Americans and the resources of the private sector to 
mobilize a whole-of-society effort in times of crisis.
    The Commission's recommendations aim to strengthen all 
forms of service to meet domestic and national security needs, 
including policies that would enhance our ability to respond to 
national emergencies. I will briefly address the highlights of 
each area, and we are prepared to go into detail in the 
questions and answers.
    As a Nation, we must improve the readiness of the national 
mobilization system through whole-of-government leadership, 
regular exercises, and improved public awareness. Our 
recommendations would require the Department of Defense (DOD) 
and the Selective Service System to conduct regular exercises, 
improve public awareness, and identify officials at Defense and 
in the National Security Council to lead mobilization planning 
and response to a range of national emergencies.
    One piece of this is the military Selective Service System. 
The Nation must be prepared to address unforeseen existential 
threats. After extensive research, deliberation, discussion 
with experts and the American public, we recommend that the 
United States maintain the Selective Service System. It is a 
low-cost insurance policy to supplement military personnel 
requirements in the face of a national emergency.
    However, the system does require modification. Most 
significantly, in the event of a draft, the Nation must 
leverage the skills and talents of all Americans, regardless of 
gender. Including women in Selective Service registration is 
what the national security interests of the United States 
demand. It will improve the ability of the military to maintain 
higher standards in the event conscription is ever needed.
    Removing oneself from the emotion, passion, and convictions 
deeply held by opponents and proponents on this issue, this 
decision ultimately comes down to two factors: standards and 
equity. At a time, as you pointed out, Mr. Chairman, when 
nearly 70 percent of 17- to 24-year-olds will fail to meet 
initial military accession standards, we cannot afford to 
exclude half the population, the female half, from the 
potential pool of inductees. If a draft is enacted, we should 
want to ensure that as many people of the highest quality can 
serve, those who are more likely to complete training 
successfully and be more proficient at their jobs.
    Expanding draft eligibility to women is, therefore, an 
issue of standards, not gender. Expansion will strengthen U.S. 
national security and mitigate the risks imposed by an 
unforeseen future. It will enable the military to access the 
most qualified individuals, regardless of sex, to fulfill the 
variety of positions necessary to respond to an ever-changing 
threat environment, and provide all Americans an opportunity to 
meet their civic obligations.
    The rights and freedoms that come with being an American 
citizen are accompanied by responsibilities, including the 
defense of the Nation. Selective Service registration 
presupposes this common obligation to provide for the common 
defense. Consequently, the disparate treatment of women in the 
context of the Selective Service System unacceptably bars women 
from sharing in this fundamental civic obligation. Male-only 
registration sends a message to women that they are not vital 
to the defense of the country and that they are not expected to 
participate in defending it. Hence, requiring women to register 
and perhaps be drafted affirms registration as a common civic 
duty. America is simply stronger when we all engage in the 
obligations of citizenship.
    Extending registration also furthers a key goal of the 
interim
National Security Strategy just issued by the White House 
earlier this month to, quote, ``modernize our national security 
institutions and processes while ensuring we take advantage of 
the full diversity of talents required to address today's 
complex challenges,'' end quote.
    We also recommend measures to enhance the tradition of 
voluntary military service by creating a continuum between the 
routine recruiting mechanisms of the U.S. military and a dire 
situation that may require activation of the draft. For 
example, creating a critical skills individual ready Reserve of 
Americans without prior military experience who would 
immediately join as their skill sets are needed; creating a 
civilian cybersecurity Reserve of former government cyber 
experts to provide DHS [Department of Homeland Security] and 
NSA [National Security Agency] with surge capacity; a national 
roster of individuals ready to volunteer in a national, state, 
or local emergency; and a formal presidential call for 
volunteers to join the military prior to initiating a draft.
    We also identified critical trends that indicate a 
deepening of the civil-military divide and raise concerns about 
the long-term sustainability of the All-Volunteer Force. First, 
gaps in understanding and interaction between civilian and 
military communities have grown as a smaller percentage of 
Americans participate in military service. Second, enlisted 
recruiting remains uneven across the United States, with 
certain geographic regions furnishing a disproportionate share 
of recruits. Third, less than 30 percent of American youth are 
eligible to join the military without a waiver, and even fewer 
are interested.
    Among our recommendations are the Department of Defense 
joining with additional funding from Congress to increase 
investment of recruiting resources in under-represented markets 
and hometown recruiting programs; expanding youth citizenship 
programs, such as JROTC [Junior Reserve Officers' Training 
Corps]; and encouraging broader use of tools, such as the Armed 
Services Vocational Aptitude Battery Career Exploration Program 
(ASVAB).
    We were pleased to see that the Fiscal Year 2021 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) adopted our recommendation to 
include an introduction to military, national, and public 
service opportunities in existing JROTC programs. These and 
other recommendations would increase awareness of the realities 
of military life and engagement between the military and the 
broader American public, enhancing the military's ability to 
attract and retain qualified personnel.
    Moving to public service, we recognize that public servants 
are vital to the security and well-being of the Nation. The 
current public health crisis has made this abundantly clear to 
all of us. With just 6 percent of the Federal workforce under 
30 years of age, and more than a third eligible to retire in 
the next 5 years, agencies must attract the next generation of 
public servants. Yet basic hiring processes are dysfunctional. 
Most agencies lack effective internship programs, flexibility 
in benefits is not competitive with the private sector, and 
piecemeal special hiring authorities have proliferated without 
sustainable fixes to the overall personnel system. To fix 
Federal hiring, we propose ways to transform recruiting, 
improve internships, attract and retain critical talent, 
modernize benefits, and create new pipelines to public service.
    We also propose critical improvements to help bring more 
talented military veterans into public service. Our 
recommendations would make veterans' preference a tiebreaker 
between equally qualified candidates, refocus the preference on 
recently discharged veterans transitioning to civilian 
employment, and expand eligibility for the veterans' 
recruitment appointment from the current 3 years to 10 years 
after discharge.
    In national service, the Federal Government supports more 
than 300,000 positions annually through AmeriCorps, Peace 
Corps, YouthBuild, and other programs, national service 
volunteers who roll up their sleeves and help meet the critical 
needs of the Nation. They provide critical disaster relief 
support, combat the opioid crisis, preserve parks and public 
lands, teach public school students in low- resourced 
communities, and much more. Yet, most Americans do not know 
what national service is or how to get involved. Nearly one-
third of millennials state that they are unaware of existing 
national service opportunities.
    Our recommendations promote awareness of national service 
and link recruiting efforts between military and national 
service, such that aspiring individuals who are ineligible for 
service in one type of program can learn about opportunities in 
the other. We propose ways to improve benefits to attract more 
Americans to this important work, and recommend continued 
enhancements to the national service infrastructure. Our goal 
is that national service opportunities will grow to 1 million 
annually by the year 2031. To help achieve this goal, the 
Commission has proposed a new, ground-breaking national service 
fellowship program that would let individuals choose where they 
want to serve, allowing more community, faith-based, and other 
nonprofit organizations, especially those in rural, tribal, or 
under-resourced areas to participate.
    Our work also illuminated the need for better coordination 
of service efforts among the various agencies and organizations 
involved in managing and overseeing service activities. I 
highlight two of our recommendations designed to address this. 
First is establishing an interagency council in the White House 
that would elevate all streams of service and provide a forum 
for encouraging coordination and communications. Second is 
creating an online platform that can function as a one-stop 
shop for service opportunities, a virtual clearing house that 
would connect service organizations with potential talent, and 
would provide immeasurable benefits for individual Americans 
and organization in military, national, and public service.
    When we began this journey, we did not expect to hear 
passionate calls from Americans across the country to improve 
civic education, but we did, and loudly. We also learned about 
the dire condition of civic education in America and the 
promise of integrating service learning methods into teaching. 
To that end, the Commission has recommended that Congress make 
a significant financial commitment to jumpstart a nationwide 
revitalization of civic education and service learning to 
ensure young people are equipped with the knowledge, skills, 
and dispositions to actively participate in civic life and 
understand the importance of serving one's nation and 
community.
    In closing, on behalf of this Commission, we call on the 
Congress and the President to invest in the American people and 
the security of the Nation by taking action, bold action, to 
ensure that every American has a clear and supported path to 
service. We believe that now is the time to build a new culture 
of service and strengthen our republic, one in which every 
American is inspired and eager to serve.
    We thank you again for the opportunity to appear here 
before you. We look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of Dr. Joseph Heck, Ms. Debra 
Wada, and Mr. Alan Khazei follows:]

 The joint prepared statement of the Dr. Heck, Ms. Wada, and Mr. Khazei
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and Members of the Committee, 
my colleagues and I thank you for the opportunity to appear before you 
today on behalf of the National Commission on military, national, and 
public service (the Commission) and its eleven Commissioners to discuss 
the findings and recommendations contained in the Commission's final 
report. We would also like to thank the leadership of the late Senator 
John McCain for supporting the Commission's work.
    Congress created the Commission in the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017 as a bipartisan body with 
members selected by congressional leadership and the President. This is 
the first time that Congress asked a body to look at all three critical 
legs of the service stool--military, national, and public service--as 
an overall system. Congress charged us to ``conduct a review of the 
military selective service process'' and to ``consider methods to 
increase participation in military, national, and public service in 
order to address national security and other public service needs of 
the Nation.'' Throughout our work, from the fall of 2017 through the 
fall of 2020, we embraced and fulfilled both parts of this mandate.
    Almost 1 year ago, on March 25, 2020, we were honored to submit to 
Congress, the President, and the American people the culmination of our 
work--``Inspired to Serve''--along with legislative proposals designed 
to implement many of the recommendations. The release of the report 
corresponded with lockdown orders and other measures taken to combat 
the ongoing public health crisis--a global pandemic that has disrupted 
nearly every aspect of life and the effects of which will remain with 
us for years to come. It is the Commission's ardent belief that service 
is integral to responding to COVID-19 and the clear inequities the 
pandemic has exposed in health care, education, the environment, and 
more. Many of the recommendations included in ``Inspired to Serve,'' if 
acted on, will create a more resilient Nation, better prepared to meet 
the next national emergency, regardless of what form it takes. With 164 
recommendations, ``Inspired to Serve'' contains a bold vision and 
comprehensive plan to strengthen all forms of service--military, 
national and public service--to address critical national and domestic 
needs, invigorate civil society, unite our people in common purpose and 
strengthen our democracy. The Commission is united behind this report 
as a consensus product, and every recommendation has the support of a 
bipartisan supermajority of the Commission.
    The recommendations we propose are based on extensive research and 
an equally expansive effort to learn from a wide spectrum of the 
American public. We traveled across the Nation to learn firsthand about 
Americans' views on and experience with service, visiting 42 cities in 
22 states across all nine census districts. The Commission conducted 
interviews with individuals from over 530 organizations that have a 
connection to service, including those who participate in, lead, or 
study activities included in the Commission's mandate. From experts and 
leaders with decades of experience in their fields, to mid-level 
managers who are implementing policies at the State and local level, to 
program participants who are just beginning to explore what it means to 
serve, the insights offered by these individuals shaped the 
Commission's understanding of what service looks like today. In 
addition, the Commission held 11 public meetings and forums, analyzed 
more than 4,300 public comments, leveraged multiple surveys with 
partner organizations, and convened 14 open hearings with 68 policy 
experts to discuss and analyze a wide variety of policy proposals.
    We found that, as was the case over 225 years ago during the 
earliest days of the Republic, America's extraordinary and longstanding 
spirit of service continues to shape the life of our Nation. As our 
report details, we heard inspiring stories of dedicated military, 
national, and public service everywhere we went. We also heard a clear 
desire for dramatically more opportunities to serve and needs to be 
met. It became clear to us, in a country of 329 million Americans, the 
full potential for service remains largely untapped. ``Inspired to 
Serve'' offers a bold and inclusive vision to significantly strengthen 
the culture of service in our Nation, beginning with comprehensive 
civic education and service learning starting in kindergarten through 
high school, service opportunities so ubiquitous that a year of 
national service becomes a rite of passage for millions of young 
adults, and new and revitalized service options for adults of any age, 
background, or experience. By the year 2031--the 70th anniversary of 
President Kennedy's ``Ask Not'' call for Americans to serve our 
Nation--we envision five million Americans will begin to serve in 
military, national, or public service each year. Our long-term goal is 
to cultivate a culture in which service is a common expectation and 
experience for all Americans--when it is the norm, rather than the 
exception--when every American is inspired and eager to serve. By 
igniting the extraordinary potential for service, our recommendations 
will address critical national security and domestic needs, expand 
economic and educational opportunities, unite people from different 
backgrounds in common cause and strengthen the civic fabric of the 
Nation.
             strengthening emergency national mobilization
    Throughout the history of the United States, Americans have proven 
their willingness to defend the country through military service. The 
Commission embraces the American tradition of first seeking volunteers 
for military service to meet national needs. The Commission has 
identified a need for a continuum between the routine recruiting 
mechanisms of the U.S. military and the activation of the draft and 
believes the Nation must develop policy options across that continuum.
    Nevertheless, the Commission ultimately concluded that the United 
States should maintain a draft contingency mechanism for mandatory 
military service in order to organize and mobilize Americans in the 
event of a national emergency. The Commission has also recommended that 
ongoing, active registration with a modernized version of the Selective 
Service System is the best and most feasible way to draw on the 
talents, skills, and abilities of Americans to meet evolving national 
security needs and support the common defense.
    The United States faces threats to vital national security 
interests and the potential for existential threats, natural or 
manmade, persist. As the National Defense Strategy Commission explained 
in 2018, ``given the differing needs for forces across theaters, the 
challenges of projecting power over great distances, and the fact that 
the United States has rarely been able to predict precisely where or 
how adversaries will challenge its interests, the U.S. military will 
surely experience unanticipated force demands in coming years.'' \1\ 
Similarly, the Department of Defense noted in its 2017 report to 
Congress that the Selective Service ``is not a theoretical 
capability,'' but ``is the only proven, time-tested mechanism by which 
to expand the [U.S. military] in the event of a national emergency.'' 
\2\
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    \1\ National Defense Strategy Commission, Providing for the Common 
Defense: The Assessment and Recommendations of the National Defense 
Strategy Commission (Washington, DC: United States Institute of Peace, 
November 2018), 21, https://www.usip.org/publications/2018/11/
providing-common-defense.
    \2\ Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and 
Readiness (OUSD (P&R)), Report on the Purpose and Utility of a 
Registration System for Military Selective Service (Washington, DC: 
DOD, July 2017), 10 (emphasis in the original).
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    The Commission determined the Selective Service System remains an 
essential component of the Nation's military preparedness and serves a 
function that cannot be replaced through other identified methods. The 
Commission shares the view of the Department of Defense that the 
Selective Service System is a necessary low-cost insurance policy 
against a shortage of military personnel as well as a symbol of U.S. 
resolve to mobilize the Nation to meet commitments to its Armed Forces, 
allies, and partners.
    The Commission also determined, however, that the broader emergency 
national mobilization system requires significant modernization in 
order to be fully prepared in the event of a national emergency. The 
ongoing pandemic has laid bare that agility and effectiveness in 
government response requires advanced planning and continuous stress 
testing. Ensuring that the Selective Service System can serve as an 
effective insurance policy requires improving the readiness of the 
entire national mobilization process, not just the Selective Service 
System, by holistically reviewing institutional and organization 
functions and roles that have not been exercised in the 21st century. 
The Department of Defense's focus on resource-informed planning and 
immediate demands on the force have come at the expense of planning for 
a national mobilization and regularly testing those plans and concepts. 
The Commission urges the National Security Council and the Department 
of Defense to review and revise plans for responding to national 
emergencies that might necessitate a draft; specifically, the 
Commission proposed that the government formalize mechanisms to 
encourage additional volunteers and develop approaches to test existing 
plans and coordinate among key organizations responsible for national 
mobilization.
    The Commission's recommendations seek to empower agencies and 
leaders to take the steps required to enhance this system, educate the 
public regarding their solemn and civic responsibilities to help defend 
the Nation if called to do so, and ensure the government can call up 
the most qualified Americans to meet the national security needs of the 
Nation if Congress and the President determine a draft is required.
    Likewise, the Commission has determined that the Selective Service 
System itself--a system created over one hundred years ago in 1917--
must modernize in order to achieve the objectives set forth above. 
Among these, the Commission recommended broader awareness of the 
purpose of registration and the function of the Selective Service 
System. While maintaining the Selective Service System is critical to 
ensuring national preparedness, the Commission found that few young 
Americans have a deep understanding or even awareness of the system's 
basic requirements. A survey conducted by the Department of Defense's 
Joint Advertising, Market Research and Studies (JAMRS) revealed that 
only 35 percent of young Americans could correctly identify the current 
registration requirement for young adult men. The Commission believes 
that Selective Service System registration deserves a moment of earnest 
reflection and our report includes several ways to help every 
registrant understand the purpose and potential implication of their 
civic duty.
    The Commission also considered, at the request of Congress, 
potential mechanisms to draft individuals with critical skills. The 
changing nature of warfare, including rapid technological advancements 
and the increased specialization required to address global security 
issues, has certainly heightened the need for individuals with critical 
skills necessary to maintain a military advantage. However, the 
Commission ultimately concluded the best way to leverage individuals 
with critical skills would be through innovative new voluntary 
mechanisms, such as the creation of an individual ready Reserve focused 
on critical skills and a national roster of volunteers.
    The Commission also considered whether women should register with 
the Selective Service System. More than any other topic within the 
Commission's mandate, the question of expanding Selective Service 
registration to all Americans, regardless of gender, evoked a range of 
passionate and deeply held moral, legal, and practical views. The 
Commission listened to diverse perspectives from the American people, 
consulted with experts from a wide variety of disciplines and groups, 
and examined the available evidence surrounding the issue. After 
extensive deliberations, the Commission ultimately decided that it is 
in the national security interest of the United States that all 
Americans, men and women, register for Selective Service and be 
prepared to serve in the event a draft is enacted by Congress and the 
President.
    The core function of the Selective Service System is to deliver 
individuals qualified for induction into military service to meet a 
wide range of Department of Defense personnel needs in the event of a 
national emergency, which includes non-combat and combat positions. \3\ 
Throughout American history, unanticipated force demands have occurred 
and most conflicts have persisted longer than initially projected. In 
times of unmet personnel needs, the Department of Defense has regularly 
resorted to reducing quality standards, harming our Armed Forces' 
ability to respond to national security threats. \4\ Should 
circumstances necessitate a draft, including women in the pool of 
individuals eligible for selection would improve the military's ability 
to maintain higher military standards. Of the 17 to 24 year old cohort, 
equal proportions of women and men meet initial military accession 
standards--an estimated 29.3 percent of women versus 29.0 percent of 
men. \5\ Women have served in every war throughout American history, 
and more than 224,000 serve in the U.S. Armed Forces today. Since the 
decision by the Department of Defense to open combat roles to women 
starting in 2016, thousands have proven they are qualified to serve in 
combat. Therefore, the Commission has found that women and men are 
equally capable of performing duties that meet the needs of the 
Department of Defense in a national emergency.
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    \3\ For example, 16 million men--10 million of whom were 
conscripted--served during World War II. Over half of all enlisted 
personnel in the U.S. military worked in just three occupations: 
mechanics, administrative and clerical workers, and providers of 
services to the force. See The President's Commission on an All-
Volunteer Armed Force, The Report of the President's Commission on an 
All-Volunteer Armed Force, 44, https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/
pubs/monograph/MG265/images/webS0243.pdf.
    \4\ ``Project 100,000: New Standards Program'' (Washington, DC, 
RAND, September 1966), https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/
monographs/MG265/images/webG1318.pdf; Arnold Isaacs, ``Book Review: 
McNamara's Folly,'' review of McNamara's Folly: The Use of Low-IQ 
Troops in the Vietnam War, by Hamilton Gregory, Modern War Institute, 
August 18, 2016, https://mwi.usma.edu/book-review-mcnamaras-folly/; and 
Jerry D. Morelock, ``McNamara's Folly: Lowering the Standards to Fill 
the Ranks,'' Vietnam Magazine, December 2016, https://
www.historynet.com/mcnamaras-folly-lowering-standards-fill-ranks.htm.
    \5\ JAMRS estimates that 29.3 percent of women in the 17-to 24-
year-old bracket are eligible for military service, verses 29.0 percent 
of men. See Office of the Undersecretary of Defense (Personnel and 
Readiness), Qualified Military Available Report (Washington, DC: 
Department of Defense, 2013).
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    Furthermore, eligibility for the draft has historically centered on 
the contemporary judgement of Americans regarding who was fit for 
military service, and registration for the Selective Service System is 
premised on the notion of a common obligation to provide for the 
defense of the Nation. It is the equal obligation of all Americans to 
defend the Nation if called to do so. Registering women for Selective 
Service, and if necessary, including women in a draft, acknowledges the 
value women bring to the U.S. Armed Forces, and the talents, skills, 
and abilities women would offer in defending the Nation in a national 
emergency.
            advancing military, national, and public service
    Service has been a part of the Nation's core values and social 
fabric since its founding. Together, military, national, and public 
service shape almost every aspect of American life and help meet the 
Nation's many critical needs. The men and women serving in the Armed 
Forces provide for the common defense of the United States; national 
service members use their time and talents to enhance government 
capacity and meet national and local needs; and civil servants provide 
critical functions for the common good. While great work is being done 
across the Nation in each of these areas, cultivating a culture of 
service in the United States requires immediate action and continued 
attention as well as a frank discussion of how to increase awareness 
of, aspiration for, and access to service.
Advancing Military Service
    The defense of the Nation depends on the continued success and 
strength of America's military. We must ensure the military is strong, 
sustainable, and capable of meeting new and emerging threats. Since the 
United States ended the draft in 1973, it has relied exclusively on the 
All-Volunteer Force to fulfill the Nation's military personnel needs. 
Yet three trends currently pose challenges to the long-term 
sustainability of the All-Volunteer Force. First, because only a small 
percentage of Americans--less than 0.5 percent--currently serve on 
Active Duty, gaps in understanding and interaction between civilian and 
military communities have grown. Second, enlisted recruiting remains 
uneven across the United States, with select geographic regions 
furnishing a disproportionate share of recruits; in fiscal year 2017, 
for example, 70 percent of new enlisted accessions came from the South 
and West. Third, an increasing percentage of American youth are 
ineligible to join the military without a waiver and even fewer are 
interested in military service. For example, an estimated 71 percent of 
youth are ineligible for military service and a mere 14 percent of 
youth expressed interest serving in the Armed Forces.
    The Commission's recommendations and legislative proposals would 
address these trends by increasing awareness of the realities of 
military life and full range of occupations available and enhancing the 
military's ability to attract and retain qualified personnel critical 
to the long-term success of the All-Volunteer Force. This includes 
investing more recruiting resources in underrepresented markets and 
hometown-recruiting programs to help meet recruiting goals and ensure 
the U.S. military reflects the Nation. The Commission further proposes 
expanding youth programs such as Junior Reserve Officers' Training 
Corps and encouraging broader utilization of tools such as the Armed 
Services Vocational Aptitude Battery Career Exploration Program. The 
Commission also offers recommendations designed to strengthen 
educational pathways to military service, including offering pre-
service education opportunities for enlisted personnel conditioned on a 
military service commitment.
    These expanded youth pathways and outreach efforts will 
significantly increase engagement between the military and the broader 
American public, provide a new generation of Americans with firsthand 
information about military life, and promote an acceptance of military 
service by all communities as a valued career choice. These outcomes 
are essential to strengthening the resiliency of the U.S. military, and 
securing our Nation.
Advancing Public Service
    Securing our Nation extends beyond military service; public 
servants are vital to the well-being of the Nation and increasingly 
important to national security in an era of great power competition. 
With integrity and impartiality, civil servants implement the decisions 
of elected officials and administer programs that fundamentally enhance 
our national security and improve the lives of Americans in countless 
ways.
    The Commission found significant challenges within Federal civil 
service personnel systems. With just six percent of the Federal 
workforce under age 30 and more than a third soon eligible to retire, 
agencies must attract the next generation to public service employment. 
Yet, basic hiring processes have become dysfunctional. Most agencies do 
not have effective internship programs--hires of student interns 
dropped by 90 percent, from 35,000 in 2010 to 4,000 in 2018. Benefits 
are not competitive with the private sector, especially for those who 
do not seek careerlong government employment. Congress and the 
President have granted direct-hire authority to address critical hiring 
needs, but the personnel system has not been updated with sustainable 
solutions. The Commission would address these near-term problems so 
agencies can function better now while building toward a modern talent-
management system, so the Federal Government is a competitive employer 
in the long term.
    To fix Federal hiring, the Commission proposes to transform 
processes for recruiting applicants and assessing the qualifications of 
job candidates, such as by eliminating self-assessments, engaging 
subject-matter experts and hiring managers with subject-matter 
expertise to rate candidates, and utilizing advanced online assessment 
tools. The Commission also proposes setting competency standards and 
improving training for human resources employees and encouraging 
agencies to make full use of existing hiring authorities, such as by 
creating new tools to connect qualified applicants eligible for 
noncompetitive hiring with agency hiring managers.
    Bold action is also needed to revitalize the hiring pipelines to 
Federal agencies for students and recent graduates. At minimum, the 
Federal Government needs robust internship and recent graduate hiring 
programs. The Commission proposes reforming and expanding these 
programs as well as creating new pathways, such as a Public Service 
Corps that grants college scholarships in exchange for a 4-year public 
service commitment at a Federal agency. Further, the Commission 
proposes a new Federal Fellowship and Scholarship Center, which would 
enhance developmental programs for students with critical skills and 
leadership potential.
    The Commission also considers it crucial to modernize how veterans' 
preference works within the government's standard hiring process of 
competitive examination. Veterans' preference is not working well for 
younger veterans seeking to transition to civilian careers nor for 
agencies that need to hire highly qualified workers. The current 
preference does a disservice to veterans. Many veterans receive little 
or no benefit, and the preference routinely advances candidates with 
weak qualifications, because some veterans who are assessed as 
minimally qualified based on their skills and experience are 
automatically moved to the top of the best qualified list. As a result, 
hiring managers are often presented with two suboptimal options: hiring 
a veteran to a position for which they are not a strong fit, doing a 
disservice to that veteran; or, having received a list of unqualified 
candidates, return it without making a hire--which is now done on more 
than half of all competitive service postings. At the same time, 
noncompetitive hiring options, like the Veterans Recruitment 
Appointment, are underutilized. The Commission proposes a comprehensive 
overhaul that would make veterans' preference a tiebreaker between 
equally qualified candidates and refocus the preference on recently 
discharged veterans who are transitioning to civilian employment, while 
expanding eligibility for the Veterans Recruitment Appointment from 3 
years to 10 years after discharge. The Commission also proposes to 
expand noncompetitive eligibility for national service alumni and 
participants in Federal internship, fellowship, and scholarship 
programs to leverage the skills of, and taxpayer investment in, these 
individuals.
    To attract and retain public servants with critical skills, the 
Commission has recommended modernizing personnel systems for Federal 
health care professionals, expanding special personnel systems for 
cybersecurity professionals, piloting a Civilian Cybersecurity Reserve, 
and investing in the skills of current Federal employees.
    To foster long-term competitiveness of Federal personnel systems, 
the Commission would offer Federal employees more benefit choices, 
including an option with fully portable retirement benefits, and would 
expand OPM's [Office of Personnel Management] demonstration authority 
to test, refine, and adopt changes to Federal agency personnel systems. 
These changes would help build the evidence base for broader 
improvements to Federal personnel systems that increase competitiveness 
while preserving a merit-based civil service.
Advancing National Service
    Each year, the Federal Government supports more than 300,000 
national service positions through the Corporation for National and 
Community Service (CNCS), the Peace Corps, and programs at other 
Federal agencies, such as YouthBuild. National service improves the 
lives of participants and recipients, provides much-needed support for 
local and nonprofit organizations, and creates more united, civically 
engaged communities. Most importantly perhaps, national service members 
and volunteers roll up their sleeves and help meet critical needs of 
the Nation, such as providing disaster relief, combating the opioid 
crisis, preserving parks and public lands, teaching and tutoring public 
school students in low-resource communities, and more. Already, 
national service is playing a critical role in how our Nation responds 
to COVID-19. We believe growth of national service opportunities can 
and should be an integral part of a sustained solution, as communities 
across the country deal with the adverse impacts of this threat for 
years to come.
    Despite the known positive impacts to individuals and communities, 
public awareness is one of the most significant barriers to expanding 
and promoting greater investment and involvement in national service. 
Most Americans do not know what national service is or how to get 
involved, and new efforts are needed to boost awareness and 
recruitment. The Commission's recommendations include means of 
promoting awareness of CNCS opportunities, including AmeriCorps and 
Senior Corps, and linking recruiting efforts between military and 
national service, such that aspiring Americans who are ineligible for 
either service can learn about other opportunities to serve the 
country.
    Americans who do aspire to dedicate themselves to a national 
service program face challenges in finding available opportunities and 
affording the experience. To make national service more accessible, 
Congress should enhance existing infrastructure and grow national 
service to 1 million annual participants by the year 2031. As one step 
to achieving this goal, the Commission proposes to create a new 
national service fellowship program administered by CNCS that would let 
individuals choose where they want to serve--thus allowing more 
community, faith-based, and other nonprofit organizations, especially 
those in rural, tribal, or under-resourced areas, to benefit from the 
commitment and energy of young Americans. As proposed by the 
Commission, the fellowship program would be equitably distributed 
across congressional districts and would ensure inclusion of young 
Americans from tribal and low-income communities.
    The Commission also found that the current living allowance can be 
a barrier for Americans who want to participate in national service. 
The Commission believes that every American should have the ability to 
consider and experience the positive impacts of service. As such, the 
Commission has recommended the AmeriCorps living allowance and Senior 
Corps stipend should be increased to more accurately reflect geographic 
cost-of-living expenses and rising inflation. Enhancing the Segal 
AmeriCorps Education Award by making it tax exempt, increasing 
flexibility in how it can be used, and matching it to the average cost 
of annual in-state tuition at a public university will provide greater 
choice and serve as a stronger, more attractive incentive as Americans 
struggle to meet rising tuition costs and student loan debt.
                     elevating all forms of service
    The Commission's review of military, national, and public service 
illuminated the need for better coordination of service efforts among 
the various disjointed agencies and organizations that perform 
management and oversight. Despite the critical role of service in our 
country, currently there is no single entity responsible for advancing 
and coordinating service initiatives across the Federal Government--no 
focal point for valuable cross-service initiatives, including ways to 
attract individuals with critical skills to serve their communities and 
the Nation. Establishing an interagency council within the Executive 
Office of the President, chaired by a presidentially appointed, Senate-
confirmed official, would elevate all streams of service and provide a 
forum for encouraging coordination, communication, and promulgation of 
best practices across military, national, and public service as well as 
advancing joint efforts to promote service.
    The Commission also recognized that many service organizations, 
across all forms of service, face challenges identifying candidates 
interested in or eligible for service. As a result, the Commission 
believes there is significant value in creating a platform that can 
function as ``one-stop shop'' for service opportunities--a virtual 
clearing house that could connect service organizations with potential 
talent. After exploring several existing and previous models, the 
Commission proposes an interactive online platform that would 
consolidate opportunities in military, national, and public service. 
This approach will expose Americans to a wider range of opportunities 
and encourage them to explore different ways to serve their country. In 
addition, the Commission has recommended that this platform incorporate 
a mechanism for Americans to indicate their willingness to perform 
military, national, or public service, generally as well as in 
emergencies, and upload their qualifications. This would provide 
service organizations a national roster to recruit from, allowing for 
more proactive recruiting.
    Finally, as the Commission traveled the country in search of ways 
to engage more Americans in service, nearly every conversation or 
meeting included a passionate call to improve civic education. Leaders 
in military, national, and public service, as well as Americans from 
all walks of life, stressed civic education's ability to increase 
Americans' awareness of, aspiration for, and access to service and 
recommended that the Commission develop ways to enhance and expand 
civic education throughout the United States. The Commission also 
believes it is necessary to significantly expand the practice of 
service-learning--a teaching method that integrates classroom teaching 
with community service. Research suggests that students who participate 
in service-learning demonstrate better academic performance and a 
deeper understanding of civic responsibility. To that end, the 
Commission recommended that Congress make a significant financial 
commitment to jump-start a nationwide revitalization of civic education 
and service learning. The Commission believes that by appropriating 
these funds, the Federal Government will lay the foundation to ensure 
that students at all levels have access to high-quality civic education 
and service-learning opportunities--from kindergarten to 12th grade, 
and beyond.
    Three and a half years ago, Congress charged our Commission with 
something never done before: conduct a comprehensive and holistic 
review of all forms of service to the Nation. In doing so, we saw 
firsthand how service is a fundamental part of who we are as Americans, 
and how we meet our challenges. COVID-19 represents one of the most 
all-encompassing and unprecedented challenges in the history of the 
United States. Yet the potential for service is currently untapped. By 
igniting the extraordinary potential for service, our recommendations 
will address critical national security and domestic needs, expand 
economic and educational opportunities, unite our people in common 
purpose, strengthen the civic fabric of the Nation, and establish a 
robust culture of service. Bold action is needed. Incremental changes 
and small improvements are not enough.
    We call on Congress and the President to invest in the American 
people and the security of the Nation by taking action. Now is the 
time--and ``Inspired to Serve'' is the plan--to strengthen service and 
achieve the vision of every American, inspired and eager to serve.

    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Dr. Heck, for that very 
compelling statement, and because some of our colleagues are 
participating virtually, let me once again explain our 
procedures.
    Since it is impossible to know exactly when our colleagues 
who will be joining via the computer arrive, we will not be 
following our standard early bird timing rule. Instead, we 
handle the order of questions by seniority, alternating sides, 
until we have gone through everyone. Once we reach the end, if 
there is anyone we missed we will start back at the top of the 
list and continue until everyone has had their turn.
    We will do the standard 5-minute rounds. I ask my 
colleagues on the computers, and at their desks, to please keep 
an eye on the clock, which you should see on your screens.
    Finally, to allow for everyone to be heard, whether in the 
room or on the computer, I ask all colleagues to please mute 
your microphone when not speaking.
    In addition, the Committee has received a statement for the 
record from the Service Year Alliance, and I would request that 
it be made part of the record. Without objection, it is part of 
the record.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    [The statement from the Service Year Alliance can be found 
on page 42.]

    Chairman Reed. Thank you again, Dr. Heck, for your 
compelling testimony and also for the extraordinary report that 
you rendered, the ideas and the analysis you put forward. I can 
assure you it will be carefully reviewed and we hope, in large 
part, incorporated into the next national defense bill after 
appropriate review and debate. But thank you. You have made a 
significant contribution, you and your colleagues.
    Let me ask a question, Dr. Heck. Do you believe that the 
current accession standards and entrance testing methods are 
appropriate to fuel the force we need over the next 25 years?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you for the question, Mr. Chairman. The 
Commission did not delve into the issue of actual accession 
standards. We felt that the standards are best designed and 
vetted through the Department of Defense. What we concentrated 
on was how could we get more individuals interested in serving 
in the military, with the belief that if more are interested 
then regardless of what the standard is, more will meet the 
standard and more will participate.
    Chairman Reed. I recognize that. I think one of the 
comments you made, and it tracks my thinking, is today there 
are some military specialties much different than when I was 
serving. To be a drone operator does not require some of the 
same physical capacities of some other issues that it took to 
be an infantry officer or a naval officer, et cetera. I think 
you are right to point out that it should be considered by the 
services, and we will look to them for their advice.
    Ms. Wada, the question that has been raised about the 
Commission, and again, in Dr. Heck's testimony, is how do we 
increase the propensity of young people to serve in the 
military? We have a shrinking cohort, so we have to do much 
better. So your ideas, as a commissioner.
    Ms. Wada. Certainly, sir. The Commission looked at how we 
can better engage with the communities across this country, and 
what we believe is that integrating all three lines of service 
would actually open up opportunities to engage with young 
Americans today. There are many communities in this country 
that military recruiters are having a difficult time getting 
into, but those same communities will welcome national service 
opportunities. If we combined all the service lines so that we 
provided educated, informed processes for our young Americans 
to consider all lines of service, we believe that we could 
increase propensity.
    Chairman Reed. I think that is good advice, and more 
collaboration between the national service reps 
[representatives] and the military reps would be appropriate 
and something that we will pursue.
    I was struck when Senator Inhofe asked how to pronounce 
your name. I was going to say it is easy. It is just like we 
say in New England, ``Wada under the dam.'' Forgive me.
    Mr. Khazei, we want to focus on expanding participation not 
just in the military but through the charge that was given for 
national and public service. Your experience with City Year 
gives you a very special perspective. Can you talk to us about 
how we can expand national and public service?
    Mr. Khazei. Thank you, Chairman. Is it on now?
    Chairman Reed. It is not on yet, sir.
    Mr. Khazei. It is not going on. Sir, it is not going on.
    Chairman Reed. You have got it now, I think.
    Mr. Khazei. Is it on now?
    Chairman Reed. You are on now.
    Mr. Khazei. Sorry about that.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Khazei. Chairman, thank you for your question. As we 
traveled the country we found that there was an incredible 
desire to serve but a lot of people do not know about the 
opportunities to serve, and so we made a number of 
recommendations. One is that there should be a new call to 
service, and as my colleague said, linking military, national, 
and public service. We also think that there should be a new 
portal, a technological website, a one-stop shop, where you can 
learn about different opportunities to serve. We also think 
that we need to increase the benefits, as was recently done in 
the American Rescue Plan and is proposed in the CORE Act [Core 
Opportunity Resources for Equity and Excellence], which I know 
you are a co-sponsor of, for especially more low-income youth 
to be able to serve. We made a number of recommendations.
    We think that already there are more people who want to 
serve than there are positions, but with the right national 
strategy and a national call to service the desire to serve is 
tremendous. Young people of this generation, Generation Z--my 
daughter is one--are the most idealistic, they are the most 
serving, but if they see that there are opportunities we 
believe they will sign up in droves.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Just a final point. My 
experience in trying to engage and encourage service, one of 
the points with the schools systems, and particularly the 
guidance counselors, do not seem to be as knowledgeable and 
engaged as they should be, and that is something that you might 
have touched on in the Commission report. But they are an asset 
that is there. I would think that talking to students, letting 
them know all the options of service, the options for 
education, et cetera, my sense is that is the resource we have 
not developed enough. So we will also consider that.
    Once again, thank you for your superb work. Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Commission's 
report urges to create a widespread culture of service for 
Americans, with all backgrounds, again, expect and inspired to 
serve the Nation and all that. Now, Dr. Heck, in light of that, 
what was the thinking behind the Commission's decision not to 
recommend that Americans be required to serve the Nation in 
some way? You know, in my opening statement I made it real 
clear that it is something I would not have done, but I did, 
and I had a happy ending. So what went into that decision?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. While the Commission 
believes in the value of service to individuals and the Nation 
it ultimately concluded that policymakers should make every 
effort to promote voluntary approaches to service, and this is 
primarily looking at the intangible benefits that come with the 
spirit of volunteerism. In addition, when you look at trying to 
make service, in whatever form, mandatory, certainly for 
military service there is a constitutional requirement under 
Article I, Section 8, to raise and support armies, provide and 
maintain navies. There was concern about constitutionality of 
forcing individuals into other forms of service against their 
will.
    Perhaps a bigger issue, however, is the incumbent costs, if 
you were to make mandatory service something that was a 
universal requirement. Roughly 210 million adults in the U.S. 
population today, we could not afford 210 million service 
opportunities. We, again, go back to the importance of the 
volunteer spirit in providing service, whether it is at the 
local, State, or Federal level.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. I understand that. But in your 
deliberation on that did you study what Israel has been doing 
for so many years, and how successful, in my opinion, that has 
been?
    Dr. Heck. Yes, sir. We actually studied several foreign 
nations and their systems that have some form of mandatory 
service, and, in fact, met with representatives from their 
respective embassies. Israel, sir, is a much smaller country in 
population. In addition, if you talk to the Department of 
Defense, they will echo the fact that at no point in time have 
we had such a professional force as we have now, with an All-
Volunteer Force. There are concerns about rotating people in 
for a 1-year conscription, putting them through boot camp, and 
then having them leave the service.
    Senator Inhofe. So you did consider that. Ms. Wada, I would 
say one of the things that was probably most controversial in 
your efforts was the decision that young women should be 
required to register in the system alongside men. Was that 
difficult? Did you have a lot of opposition to that position?
    Ms. Wada. Thank you, Senator. The Commission did hear from 
a number of organizations and individuals about the different 
perspectives they brought. Ultimately, the Commission decided 
that it was based on standards and that men and women are 
equally qualified to meet----
    Senator Inhofe. But was there opposition to that?
    Ms. Wada. There was some. There was also a number of----
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah, I would think there would be, and 
frankly, I am glad you did.
    Now the most important thing, in my opinion, is the problem 
that we have got right now with the fact that such a small 
percentage of our young people qualify. We have a Personnel 
Subcommittee of this committee that you are before right now, 
and this has probably been the thing that has been studied for 
a long period of time, and even our military has a difficult 
time coming up with--one of the choices would be to lower the 
standards, one of the choices--there are a lot of little 
obvious things that could be done.
    But do you have anything that you have done that is going 
to address the problem that we just do not have enough kids out 
there?
    Ms. Wada. The Commission looked at the number of 
individuals who were qualified to meet the current accession 
standards, and the Commission found that both men and women 
were equally qualified to meet it, and that percentage was 29 
percent. In actuality, it was 29 percent for males and it was 
29.3 percent for females. So statistically, both men and women, 
if they were called to register and potentially considered for 
a draft, both men and women would be equally qualified to meet 
the current accession standards.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, Mr. Khazei, you know, that is fine, 
but that is the problem that we are going to be facing. We have 
China and we have Russia, know the capacities that they have. 
Mr. Khazei, do you have any comments to make on that?
    Mr. Khazei. Yes. I think one of our big recommendations is 
that we need a new call to service overall, and the brilliance 
of this Commission was that it links all three branches of 
service--military, national, and public. I think if we had a 
new almost updated ``Uncle Sam Needs You'' campaign, and gave 
young people the option, and educated them about the different 
choices, and if we linked to recruiting efforts, I think more 
young people would sign up to serve in public service, military 
service, and national service.
    If I could just make one point quickly, Senator, about your 
mandatory point. We had a robust debate on this. If you look at 
the development of high school in America, it took about three 
decades. The first high school was voluntary and then it got to 
a critical mass and people said, ``You know what? Everybody 
should go to high school.''
    We have a robust recommendation which is to get to a 
million young people in national service within 10 years. At 
that point, it would be across the country enough that I think 
we could have the debate that you want to have. Now, should we 
make this mandatory? There is also the practical issue that if 
you went from where we are now, which is less than 100,000 
people, to 4 million, would the service opportunities be 
quality service opportunities? We do not want people in service 
where they are not having an impact.
    So I think if the recommendation to get to 1 million is 
adopted, then the country really could have the kind of debate 
that you are pushing for.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Let me 
recognize Senator Gillibrand via Webex.
    Obviously we have a technical issue. Senator Blumenthal, 
please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 
Thank you for your excellent work.
    Senator Gillibrand. I thought they were calling on----
    Chairman Reed. Senator Gillibrand, are you on Webex now? 
You were not. Could I ask you to defer? We recognized Senator 
Blumenthal and I will recognize you next, when your order comes 
up. Thank you.
    Senator Gillibrand. Yes, sir. Thank you.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
Senator Gillibrand.
    This untapped opportunity is tremendously exciting, and 
part of it is that we are recognizing for the first time as 
public service folks who do seemingly ordinary tasks under 
extraordinary challenges, whether it is postal workers or bus 
drivers or grocery workers, because of the challenges that we 
have faced over the last year in the midst of a pandemic. I am 
particularly interested in what can be done in the military to 
attract more women and keep them in the military. There is a 
story in The New York Times, today, I think, about the physical 
fitness tests that the military imposes. In the course of your 
work did you develop any opinions about how that fitness test 
impacts either attracting or retaining women in the military?
    Ms. Wada. Senator, thank you for the question. No, the 
Commission did not look at the--are you referring to the Army's 
ACT [Army Combat Fitness Test], the new physical fitness?
    Senator Blumenthal. Yes.
    Ms. Wada. No. The Commission did not take a look at that 
issue. The Commission did look, though, at how we could 
increase propensity for individuals to serve, and what we found 
was young individuals across this country lack basic knowledge 
of the military and the opportunities that it provides. A lot 
of young Americans today believe that the majority of people in 
the military are what we would call ground-pounders or 
infantrymen, not recognizing the fact that we have everything 
from doctors to lawyers to musicians in the military, and they 
have professional opportunities available to them, that they 
are now well known.
    Senator Blumenthal. Would you agree that educating them 
about the specific skills that are necessary and also tailoring 
military requirements to attract those skills, for example, 
cyber warriors, who may have different interests, different 
style, different culture, but the military needs them?
    Ms. Wada. Correct. One of the issues that the Commission 
looked at was how do we increase propensity for critical 
skills, and we have included a number of recommendations to do 
that. What I would say is that it is not only recruiting those 
individuals with critical skills. It is also having the pathway 
and also the processes to be able to keep them once they are 
in, as well. So the process needs to be looked at holistically.
    Senator Blumenthal. What about student loan forgiveness? Is 
that an option here that should be expanded further?
    Ms. Wada. We looked at benefits, in general. I do not 
recall that we came out on any specific recommendation on 
student loans, specifically.
    Senator Blumenthal. Well, there is an option now to have 
student loans forgiven. I hate that word, because it makes it 
sound like an act of beneficence. But people who do public 
service are actually contributing, and, in effect, paying off 
their student loan. But one of the proposals that I and others 
have advocated, that I think would be extremely attractive to 
national service, is expanding the options that are available 
so that people with huge amounts of student debt can better 
reduce that debt in return for public service. That is not 
something you have explored?
    Ms. Wada. No. The Commission did include a recommendation 
that would actually start a scholarship program and encourage 
centers of excellence for public service, and start a 
scholarship program on the national service level that would 
allow people to choose where they want to provide their 
service, and part of national service also comes with some 
college stipend money, depending on the program.
    Dr. Heck. Senator, if I may, so the committee does have a 
recommendation to create a public service corps, similar to the 
ROTC [Reserve Officers' Training Corps] program, where there 
would be an up- front scholarship program in exchange for 
someone agreeing to serve in a Federal public service role upon 
graduation.
    Senator Blumenthal. But what I am contemplating, in effect, 
is, a reverse GI Bill, in effect, where someone does the public 
service and can reduce the debt, not through a scholarship 
while in school but through service afterwards. It already 
exists but it is under pretty curtailed or limited 
circumstances, and widening it, broadening it I think would 
greatly encourage public service.
    My time has expired. I apologize, but I would love to 
follow up in questions. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Let me 
recognize Senator Ernst.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you very much. It is good to have our 
witnesses in front of us. Dr. Heck, great to see you. Ms. Wada, 
thank you, and Commissioner, thank you as well for the great 
service that you have provided with this study.
    It is good to be able to visit with you today. There are a 
number of issues out there. I think all of us will have 
different views on whether women should be included in the 
draft. I am okay with that, since we have opened up those 
combat skills to women serving in the military. I do think that 
that is entirely appropriate. I am very proud of the 23-plus 
years that I had in boots, and am very excited that my daughter 
has decided to follow in my footsteps and put those boots on as 
well.
    So just going to the civic education of our young men and 
women. One thing from back home that I have been very surprised 
about is that many of our school counselors do not even offer 
the opportunity, when they are reviewing scholarships with 
their high school students, many of them do not bring up the 
fact that ROTC offers scholarships to any number of our fine 
higher learning institutes. I find that very discouraging that 
we are not opening that opportunity to so many. Even my 
daughter had said, at one point, she had heard one counselor 
say, ``Oh, well, we do not go over that because nobody will be 
interested.'' Well, you do not know that those students are not 
interested unless you actually propose it to them.
    I also know of a number of high schools across Iowa that do 
not allow National Guard recruiters to come into their schools, 
and I think this is a great disservice by our public high 
schools when they are not offering career choices of varying 
degrees to their students.
    I would hope that those that are listening out there might 
decide that, wow, we are cutting careers away from our students 
by not offering that opportunity. Whether they agree with 
military service or not, it is not up to our schools to decide 
what career path our students engage in. Hopefully we can bring 
that to light as well.
    Now there was a Brookings report from June of 2020 that 
stated, and I do agree, that ``Americans' participation in 
civic life is essential to sustaining our democratic form of 
government. Without it, a government of the people, by the 
people, and for the people will not last.'' This report found 
that one in four Americans were unable to name the three 
branches of government, and this report, admittedly, shocked 
me.
    How can we reinvigorate civic education within our schools 
and amongst our Nation's youth, and then, of course, just 
understanding our democracy is very important and critical in 
today's society. We struggle with this issue, but how can we 
get more of that civic engagement in our high schools? Any of 
you, please.
    Mr. Khazei. Senator, thank you for your service, and your 
daughter's, and highlighting this issue. Just to respond 
somewhat to what you said, we did recommend that JROTC [Junior 
Reserve Officers' Training Corps] should be expanded and that 
part of the curriculum should also include opportunities to 
serve in public service and civilian national service, and we 
appreciate that this committee actually put that instruction in 
your last NDAA, and now hopefully JROTC will be expanded as 
well.
    You are absolutely right about civics. The most recent NAEP 
[National Assessment of Educational Progress] test on civics 
found that only 25 percent of our eighth-graders are 
proficient. There is a lot we can do. As our chairman said, we 
did not expect--civics was not on our initial mandate, but 
everywhere we went across the country people raised the same 
concern that you have raised, which is that we have to restore 
civics in schools. So we have recommended that there be a new 
civics fund created at the Department of Education (DOE), $200 
million a year, both for teacher training in civics and to 
bring civics programs back in.
    Just today, in a bipartisan way, Senator Cornyn and Senator 
Coons and Congresswoman DeLauro and Blumenauer and Cole are 
introducing the Secure American Democracy Through Civics Act. 
There is a new coalition, Educating for Democracy. Three 
hundred scholars put out a roadmap last week, and that 
legislation will put $1 billion over 5 years.
    We have also proposed that we restore service learning 
schools, so that kids can have the experience of doing 
community service in an educational context. Basically, we 
agree with your concern, and this has to start in first grade 
and go all the way through high school, so that young people 
are exposed to what our country means, how the system of 
government works, what their rights and responsibilities are, 
but then also have the chance to do service themselves as they 
are going through the education system.
    Senator Ernst. Fantastic. My time has expired, but I do 
appreciate the great service that you have given on this 
Commission. I think it is important that we all take a very 
hard look at it and look at your recommendations and how we 
might follow through. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Let me recognize 
Senator Gillibrand via Webex.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to 
the witnesses for this excellent presentation. I think your 
report is ground-breaking, and I think the greatest asset this 
Nation has always had is its people. On the Armed Services 
Committee I have worked very hard to make sure the kids that 
apply for the service academies are more diverse than would 
naturally occur.
    I want to hear your recommendations. You outlined in the 
report that you want to increase the number of candidates of 
color, you want to increase the number of even people with 
disabilities, people who have been previously incarcerated, to 
expand national public service to everyone, and you want to not 
only expand who is applying but who actually is given the 
roles.
    Can you speak a little bit too how you intend to do this 
and how we can reach out to these communities more effectively?
    Ms. Wada. Well, the Commission, one of the ideas that we 
have had is to do allow people to have scholarships that they 
would be able to take into different communities to be able to 
do that. We also want to increase the opportunities for 
national service in communities of underserved populations. To 
be able to do that, we have to increase the stipends and also 
the positions available.
    What the Commission found was there are a number of 
barriers to service, and even including not just national 
service barriers but also military service barriers. Education 
is one of them. In a number of underserved communities it may 
not just be the fact that they have physical or mental waiver 
requirements but it also sometimes is the educational 
attainment that they are not able to achieve, which becomes a 
barrier to military service in some of these underserved 
communities.
    Senator Gillibrand. A little more to the question that 
Senator Blumenthal raised, to basically have an expansion of 
the GI Bill so that people can do public service after high 
school or college and commit to a certain amount of public 
service in exchange for having student debt paid down to a 
certain degree or to receive a public education.
    Dr. Heck. Yes, Senator. We did propose that the Segal award 
that the AmeriCorps members receive, get increased equal to 1 
year of in-state tuition. When it was first proposed, back in 
1994 when it came into existence, it covered a year. It was 
raised to the level of Pell grants in the Serve America Act of 
2009, but it still is less than a year. So we think if you 
could do a year of service and get a year of in-state tuition, 
you could serve your way through higher education.
    Ms. Wada. Senator, I would also add the Commission had a 
recommendation where we recommended that the military provide 
training prior to entrance of military service. If you, say, 
wanted to get your truck driver CDL [commercial driver's 
license] license that you would be able to go to get your CDL 
license prior to joining the military, and then have a service 
commitment that way as well. It is a tangible achievement that 
an individual could have prior to making the commitment to 
serve.
    Senator Gillibrand. Would you recommend for each year you 
agree for service to have a year of education paid for? So, for 
example, if you agreed to 4 years of service you would get a 4-
year degree, if you agreed to 2 years of service you would get 
a 2-year degree? Is that the investment we should make to try 
to encourage more Americans, particularly those who are most 
underserved in the underserved communities to look at service 
as a stepping stone for their career?
    Mr. Khazei. Yes, absolutely. In fact, our recommendation is 
that the post-service Segal award should be equivalent to 1 
year of in-state tuition at a public university so you could do 
exactly what you said. If you served for 2 years you get 2 
years of education, or for 4 you get 4 years. You could 
essentially serve your way to higher education.
    Senator Gillibrand. Expand your views on particularly this 
very unique population of those who have been previously 
incarcerated. That is the group of people that I have 
legislated on in terms of urban jobs legislation, to try to get 
them job training. This would be a very directed approach to 
try to get everyone to be fully employed, who want to be 
employed, through this kind of training and public service.
    Mr. Khazei. Absolutely. In fact, we recommended there are 
service programs like YouthBuild, Green City Force, that have 
brought young people who were formerly incarcerated, very 
successful. One of our recommendations is that the Corporation 
of National Service should look at more opportunities for 
people who have been formerly incarcerated. It is a great 
transition to do national service. We recommended that.
    Senator Gillibrand. I would assume that it would be wise to 
expand the definition of public service to include, of course, 
the military, but also our intelligence services, also all 
government service, health care, education, and green jobs. 
Could you see this expanding that far, to all public service?
    Dr. Heck. Senator, for the purposes of the Commission we 
defined public service as employment in either State, local, 
Tribal, or Federal Government positions, but many of the 
recommendations that we do make are able to be extrapolated to 
other forms of service as well.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Let me 
recognize Senator Kaine.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Ranking Member. To 
the members of the Commission, congratulations. I really look 
forward to digging into this.
    National service is so important. When I was a kid in law 
school I took a year off to help run a vocational school in 
Honduras, and it was transformative. I was the oldest of three 
boys. Because I had that experience and it was transformative, 
my younger brother took a year off between college and med 
[medical] school to work for a center for refugees in Houston, 
and then my youngest brother took a year off between college 
and law school to work at a homeless shelter and ministry with 
the homeless in Richmond. These were all informal, there was 
not a government program, there was no incentives or benefits, 
but each of us found that to be transformative in our lives. 
Two of my three children have done more formal public service. 
One is a member of the United States Marine Corps and one with 
AmeriCorps.
    There are a lot of questions I want to ask, but let me just 
ask this one. I think the current way we do public service, or 
try to incentivize public service, is highly confusing. Just to 
use the example of the various public service loan forgiveness 
programs. Senator Gillibrand and I have a bill called the What 
You Can Do For Your Country Act that basically tries to 
streamline and pull together the various different public 
service loan programs that we have. I am a member of the 
Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee and it is in 
our jurisdiction there.
    We have incentives for military service. I saw an ad on TV 
[television] this morning that said sign up for the Navy, up to 
$40,000 signing bonus. We have programs to encourage students 
in schools if they want to study cyber, either to work on the 
civilian side or the military side. We have a variety of other 
public service loan programs for physicians or health workers 
if they work in underserved areas. But we also often face a 
situation where people are confused by the rules and they get 
into the wrong repayment program, and they think they are going 
to get their loan forgiven and then find out that that is not 
the case.
    The previous administration, at the Department of 
Education, was very, very customer-unfriendly in trying to get 
people into the right programs so they could get their loans 
forgiven. They even stated a philosophical objection to the 
programs. One of the key officials at the DOE said, ``Why would 
we want to give an incentive to work in public service rather 
than an incentive to work in the private sector?"
    Do you have recommendations in here about the way we can 
take the variety of programs that Congress has done to provide 
incentives for people to go into different kinds of public 
service and (a) make them more streamlined, and (b) communicate 
them better so that students and their families, as they are 
thinking about their future, have this information at their 
hands as they make decisions?
    Dr. Heck. Senator, thank you. Great question. We do have a 
series of recommendations through each one of the topic areas--
military, national, and public--as well as cross-cutting 
recommendations on how do we tie them all together. Our 
recommendations revolve really around three areas: awareness, 
aspiration, and access. You cannot be what you do not know. We 
have to make sure people are aware of the opportunities that 
are out there for them. Once they are aware, they need to 
aspire to want to participate, and then we have to make sure 
they have a program.
    We feel that one of the best ways to do that is to create 
the online platform, kind of a national service clearinghouse 
online platform, where all forms of service are there--
military, national, and public service--that outline what the 
responsibilities are, what the benefits are. In this way, 
somebody does not need to go through a series of websites to 
try to figure out what they want to do and what might work best 
for them.
    Certainly, many of the recommendations we concentrated on 
to increase national service participation look at that 
benefits package. My colleague mentioned one which was the 
Segal award and pegging it to 1 year of in-state tuition as 
opposed to the Pell grant. Another is looking at the living 
stipend, to make sure that the living stipend is sufficient to 
allow that person to participate. Right now there is very 
little wiggle room in setting that number, and obviously it is 
a different cost of living in downtown New York versus in a 
rural state.
    We have several recommendations to try to address those 
areas, and to have this cross-cutting approach, to make sure 
that regardless of what line of service an individual is 
interested in that they will be supported in that line of 
service.
    Senator Kaine. I very much appreciate it, and Alan, in 
particular, it is great to see you again. Thanks for your great 
work for so many years in advancing the idea of public service. 
I look forward to following up on your recommendations and I 
appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Let me now call on 
Senator King via Webex.
    Senator King. Senator, thank you very much. I am in the 
hall of Dirksen between two meetings. Most of the comments and 
questions have been already presented to the committee this 
morning. The necessity--necessity--of greater civic education I 
do not think can be overestimated. I think one of the great 
losses, and I do not really quite understand why it has 
happened in the last 30 or 40 years, has been the decline of 
civics, literally civics, in the high school curriculum around 
the country.
    A couple of other questions. Does the Commission have an 
estimate of the number of 18-year-olds in the country--if we 
are talking about 2 years, 18- and 19-year-olds, how many 
people are we talking about, for example?
    Mr. Khazei. Senator, we completely agree with you on the 
issue of civics, and that is why we have recommended a new 
civics fund at the Department of Education, $200 million a 
year, and are excited about the new legislation that is being 
introduced today in a bipartisan fashion.
    You know, right now the Federal Government spends about $5 
million a year on civics, and spends over $3 billion on STEM 
[Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics]. When the 
government committed to investing in STEM, STEM accelerated all 
across the country. We think the same commitment should be made 
in civics. We heard it everywhere we went, people raised the 
same concern you did.
    There are roughly 4 million young people that turn 18 every 
single year, so in terms of 18- and 19-year-olds, there would 
be about 8 million.
    Senator King. That is not a gigantic number in terms of 
providing some kind of national service option.
    Now another question is, is this a question of 
communication, where people do not know the availability of 
these slots, or are there not enough slots? In other words, do 
we need more slots in AmeriCorps or the military or the other 
places where national service might take place, or is it just a 
question of there are fewer people applying and therefore if we 
advertised more and made people aware of these options we would 
have more participation? Which is it, communications or 
shortage of slots?
    Mr. Khazei. It is a little of both. There is definitely a 
shortage of slots. AmeriCorps is roughly 75,000 people a year, 
Peace Corps is about 7,000, and YouthBuild about 8,000. So 
there are less than 100,000 slots for that cohort, as you 
mentioned, 4 million, 8 million people, and there is way more 
demand. There are programs all across the country that have way 
more people applying. The corporation gets requests for funding 
that far exceeds that grant authority. We recommended that 
there should be enough funding to get to 1 million people a 
year over 10 years.
    But there is also a question of when. As we traveled the 
country, we found that very few people knew about AmeriCorps 
and the opportunity to serve. So we think there needs to be 
both, and including people who have misgivings or 
misunderstandings about the military, as my fellow Commissioner 
Wada mentioned. So we did think there should be a new call to 
service that would link all three streams of service, as well 
as increased support, especially on the civilian service side.
    Senator King. I have to say I was----
    Mr. Khazei. Thank you for your leadership on the CORE Act, 
which would do that.
    Senator King. Well, that is exactly what we are hoping will 
happen.
    I have to say, I was somewhat amused by the new idea of 
service in exchange for a year of college scholarship. My 
mother did that in the '20s. She had a scholarship to William 
and Mary in Virginia, and for every year of her scholarship she 
was committed to teach for a year, in the commonwealth of 
Virginia. So this is back to the future. I think that might 
make a huge difference, either on the front end or the back 
end. You can do the service before you go to school and earn 
credits towards your school, or financial support towards your 
schooling, or at the end of your schooling you can do a service 
job and have a year of your costs forgiven. So I think it makes 
sense. It worked 100 years ago and I suspect it may work.
    Thank you so much for the work of this Commission. I think 
it is timely and important, and I think you are going to find a 
receptive audience here in the Capitol, just as you already 
have today. So thank you for the great work on the Commission.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King, and let me now 
recognize Senator Blackburn via Webex.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you so much. I appreciate that and 
I appreciate that you all are with us.
    I think that we are all really aware of the changing nature 
of warfare and the fighting that is going to take place in the 
domains of space and cyber. In the Commission's final report 
you recommend developing new voluntary models for assessing 
personnel with critical skills. How do your findings support 
the military framework like a national Reserve digital corps, 
which leverages the STEM workforce and national service?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. One of our 
recommendations is the formation of a civilian cybersecurity 
Reserve force that is made up of individuals who have 
previously served in the U.S. Government as cybersecurity 
experts, have left Federal Government but are willing to 
participate for surge capacity in the event of a national 
emergency.
    We see that, coupled with the specific critical skills 
individual ready Reserve (IRR), which is an opportunity for 
individuals without any prior military experience to be able to 
volunteer their critical skill set in times of a national 
emergency, and both of those are listed and fleshed out in our 
recommendations.
    Senator Blackburn. Yeah. What about building this out 
through the National Guard or through the ROTC or Junior ROTC 
programs?
    Dr. Heck. Well, we do look at Junior ROTC and the expansion 
thereof as another pathway to introduce individuals to 
potential service in the military. We also talk about expanding 
the utilization of the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude 
Battery Career Exploration Program, ASVAB/CEPT, which right now 
only about 15 percent of high school students participate in. 
That is not just about getting them in a pathway to the service 
but helping them determine where their skill set is for what 
they might want to do as a career or as a trade, regardless of 
whether or not they enter into the military. But JROTC is 
really a citizenship program more than a military program. 
Within senior ROTC at college levels there are the 
opportunities for individuals to engage in specific high-STEM 
level and cybersecurity programs. Those should be expanded.
    The key, we believe, is having more individuals that are 
not already in the military pipeline being exposed to and 
interested in providing service in this field. Hence, the 
critical skills IRR and the cybersecurity Reserve program.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, I tell you, I think the DOD 
studies that show only 29 percent of today's youth are eligible 
or interested in military service, that is something that 
should be of tremendous concern for us. When you talk about 
citizenships programs, yes, they are important because that is 
how people are going to develop that desire, whether it is 
scouting programs or Junior ROTC, or some of those that build 
that awareness. I think also using the National Guard so that 
individuals who are working in some of the cyber and digital 
fields have the ability to bring their skills to the military 
service, and with it bring that innovation. I really think that 
is a very important component.
    This means that the National Guard, the Reserve, and our 
Active Duty military, everyone needs to change some of their 
recruiting practices. Don't you think?
    Dr. Heck. Most definitely, ma'am. We have an entire section 
dedicated to how the military needs to adapt its recruiting 
methods to reach the potential recruits where they live and 
where they are, especially with expanding hometown recruiting 
programs, multiyear budgeting for the advertising budgets so 
they can plan out an advertising blitz, making sure that they 
are getting to individuals on the social media platforms that 
they are on. If you are still advertising on TV to a 
millennial, you are not advertising to that millennial.
    Senator Blackburn. Right. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I 
yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator, and let me 
recognize Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Dr. Heck and 
Ms. Wada and Mr. Khazei, thank you to all of you for working on 
this Commission. I come from a family of public servants. Both 
my parents were police officers. When I was 18 years old, I 
went to the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy. I spent 25 years in 
the Navy and at NASA [National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration]. Now I am here in the Senate, continuing public 
service, because I feel there is no better way you can spend 
your time than trying to improve our Nation, and fight for what 
is right and help our neighbors, whether that is in the 
military or in the government or in some other form of service. 
Engaging Americans in some form of national service is an 
important way of addressing divisions in our country and 
emerging from our current crisis stronger and more united.
    Certain moments in our country's history have galvanized 
generations and called them to serve. I think 9/11 is an 
example of this. There have been others, and that is sometimes 
military service. It is sometimes other forms of Federal 
service. You know, then there are other events, events like the 
SolarWinds hack, which remind us how important certain critical 
skill areas will continue to be for our government. It also 
calls to mind scenarios that could require us to surge external 
support on a short notice.
    I understand the Commission considered a range of ways to 
identify individuals with critical skills. Can you speak to 
your findings on the different approaches there, and then I 
have a follow-up question. Dr. Heck?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you, Senator. Yeah, so we explored various 
ways to try to encourage those with critical skills to become 
involved and how we could identify those individuals, starting 
with actually looking at a critical skills draft, if it was 
necessary. There is a health care professional delivery system 
model that is a subset of the currently existing Selective 
Service System, where they would draft health care 
professionals in times of war. So that model could be expanded 
to other skill sets if we were at a point where we were in 
conflict and needed to go to conscription.
    However, as you well know, there are many conflicts that 
will be short of conscription where we still may need to tap 
into this expertise. That, again, goes back to the concept of a 
critical skills individual ready Reserve, where individuals 
with no military experience have the opportunity to sign up and 
participate in an individual capacity in the times of need. 
Some training, once a year, perhaps a stipend to be engaged, 
and then be called on when needed. We specifically focused on 
the cybersecurity Reserve force, which takes individuals that 
have already worked in the government in that field, and have 
received some of the best training and have already got the 
clearances, but have left the government service to be able to 
be a Reserve force to call back in, to serve in times of need.
    Those types of programs can be extrapolated across any 
critical skill. In fact, one of our charges was to identify 
potential critical skills. What we realized when we started is 
that it is impossible to predict the future, and what is a 
critical skill today may not be a critical skill 10 years from 
now. So we did not specifically lay out which skills need to be 
addressed, but identified models that would work, depending 
upon what the policymakers believed the critical skills were 
for a given point in time.
    Senator Kelly. So in the cyber field you look at 
individuals that already served in government that had specific 
skills that had clearance. Was there any thought given to try 
to attract to that same community possibly younger people that 
never served in government but often do have a certain set of 
skills that they acquired on their own, and could also be part 
of a larger effort when we need some sort of surge capability 
in the cyber arena?
    Dr. Heck. Yes, sir. That is the concept behind our critical 
skills individual ready Reserve, which is not limited to any 
critical skill. That would be for, in this case, in your 
example, additional cyber experts that possessed that critical 
capability to sign up in an individual ready Reserve process 
that is not military related. It is not military service. It is 
an opportunity to serve in that capacity when needed.
    Senator Kelly. Do you have any idea if there would be 
enough interest to make a program like that worthwhile?
    Dr. Heck. Hard to predict what the interest would be, but 
we did find, as we traveled around the Nation and talked with 
people of all walks of life, that there are many people 
interested in providing service in their State, local, and 
Federal Government communities, short of wanting to put on a 
uniform. Especially when you talk to folks who want to be able 
to serve but serve where they live, and I think that is where 
the opportunity for a program like this would show benefit.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Dr. Heck.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Let me recognize 
Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and General, 
good to see you again sir. Congratulations to you and the whole 
committee for doing this. You and I have been in touch on your 
work for some time now. I am really glad to see the hard work 
paid off here, and I am glad to see the committee is holding a 
hearing on this.
    I wanted to ask kind of a question that is not really 
related but it came up last week in our confirmation hearing 
for the Under Secretary of Policy. We were talking about an 
issue, and, I think you know, from your own service, that the 
military is not a perfect institution but I think in America it 
is certainly well respected. I think most people see it as one 
of the most important, in many ways, civil rights institutions, 
given how it is integrated, different ethnic groups throughout 
our country. In the Marine Corps nobody cares what race you are 
in. They just care how good of a marine you are. That is the 
ethic that we all want throughout our Nation. I think it goes 
to the idea of common service too.
    We had an Under Secretary nominee up for his position, 
Under Secretary of Policy, who declared that there was, quote, 
``systemic racism within the ranks of the military.'' That was 
his quote. I questioned him on it, and I said, ``That is a 
pretty broad statement here to be making. Do you have any data 
to back that up?'' He did not.
    So I am just wondering, first, very quickly, and maybe you 
can just say yes or no, in all your meetings with the military 
and communities and people who have served and others, did you 
see any actual data that there is systemic racism within the 
ranks of the military?
    Dr. Heck. Senator, thank you for the question. As we 
traveled the Nation and talked with officers and enlisted, as 
well as the general public, the one thing that resonated was 
the fact that people want an opportunity to serve, especially 
in the military. When you look at bringing people together, as 
we do in military training, they leave that training looking at 
each other, to their left and right, and calling each other 
``brother'' and ``sister.'' When you bring people together in a 
civilian job training program they leave calling each other 
``colleague.'' I think that speaks volumes to what bringing 
people together in a common cause like service can accomplish.
    Senator Sullivan. Yeah, that has been my experience as 
well. Again, not a perfect organization by any means, but to 
make that statement here without any data to me was kind of 
shocking.
    Let me turn to actually your report. This idea of critical 
skills lists in the IRR, I have been working on legislation 
that relates to that with regard to public health, particularly 
as it relates to what we have just been going through, a 
pandemic where, God forbid we have another one, but we probably 
are at some point in our history, and to be able to surge young 
men and women who have critical skills for example, in health 
care. You are a general in the Army. You are the chairman of 
this Commission. You also know a lot about health care. I 
wonder what you think about that idea.
    Then I was surprised to see that in a number of your 
critical skills list ideas, as I am looking through the report, 
the Pentagon is opposing the recommendations that you are 
putting forward. Could you talk about that idea of a surge IRR 
capacity, if we had another big pandemic, young men and women 
who have training in health care can be recalled, public health 
service, military combination, and why that could be important, 
but also why do you think the Pentagon opposes those kind of 
ideas?
    Dr. Heck. Senator, first, I wholly support the concept of 
health care professionals being included within the critical 
skills requirement, and certainly the programs that we 
recommend could include health care professionals to surge. I 
think the important point that we try to make in the critical 
skills IRR, and perhaps IRR was not an artful term to use, and 
it may cause some angst or confusion. But we look at it as an 
opportunity for those with no prior military experience. As you 
know, the current IRR is those military members that are 
waiting to complete their military obligation with really no 
requirement to perform any service, but are still subject to 
recall. I believe that is one of the issues that DOD has, and 
maybe more with the name than it is with the program, also to 
ensure that it does not count against their end-strength caps, 
which they are already constrained by.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Sullivan. We do 
not anticipate a second round, but I have a question and then I 
will yield to the ranking member for his question. If others 
join us in the interim then they will be recognized.
    Again, you have done a superb job. One of the issues that 
you raised was the less-than-representative composition of the 
military today, through recruiting efforts, et cetera, and that 
cuts both geographically and other categories, race and gender, 
perhaps. Can you give us an idea, Dr. Heck, General Heck--I 
will use both--of what are the factors that are driving it. Is 
it an inattention to areas or groups? Is it just we have always 
done it that way? Go ahead, please.
    Dr. Heck. Sir, again, a great question. There are several 
factors that weigh into this issue. One, which was previously 
discussed briefly, is the growing civil-military divide where 
individuals just do not think about wanting to serve in 
uniform. We know that roughly 60 percent of recruits today come 
from a small band of States through the South and the West. We 
know that military service is becoming a family business. I 
served because my mother served, my father served.
    Part of this is the growing disconnect. The other thing 
that Ms. Wada had mentioned earlier is how are the services 
getting their message out to the population. All services are 
doing a much better job now, but previously the advertisements 
all were the high-speed, you know, low-drag MOS's [military 
occupational specialties], rappelling out of helicopters, 
kicking in doors, which is not where the large majority of 
today's population is. But when you start advertising the 
opportunity to be a physician, to be a nurse, to be a cyber 
professional, to be a cook, to be a truck driver, we need to 
concentrate more on the positions that are not combat related. 
As you know, less than one-third of the positions in the Army, 
even less across the services, are considered ground combat 
positions, yet that seems to be what we advertise for.
    Another piece, I believe, is the actual way we provide the 
opportunity for males to register with the Selective Service. 
It is a passive process. They go in to get their driver's 
license and a box is checked and they are registered with the 
Selective Service, not realizing the solemn obligation that 
they just undertook and the gravity of the situation which may 
call upon them to potentially risk their lives in service to 
this Nation. All part of the growing civ-mil [civil-military] 
divide, and that is where we need to tackle this issue.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Dr. Heck. 
Senator, are you ready?
    Senator Inhofe. Oh yeah. I will make this real quick. We 
have one more presenter here. But do not misinterpret what I 
said about my having been a product of the draft. I have to 
admit that I disagree with you on that, and yet I am realistic 
enough to know that since I am the only member of this 
committee who believes in compulsory service, it ain't going to 
happen. But I would just say it happened in a great, beneficial 
way to me and my life. Okay?
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and you and I 
might be the only persons here that actually were subject to 
signing up for the draft.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
the witnesses for being here.
    Dr. Heck, let me start with you. Missouri, as you know, is 
the proud home of Fort Leonard Wood and Whiteman Air Force Base 
and a number of other military installations of which we are 
very proud. So in my state there is a strong-felt connection 
between local communities all across the state and the United 
States military, and between the ethic and the tradition of 
service and local communities. But that is, to your point just 
a second ago, that is not the case in many parts of the 
country.
    So give us a sense of what you think the most important 
steps are that we can take, think about taking, to reconnect 
those communities, geographic areas of the country that 
increasingly have no regular contact with, no felt sense of 
camaraderie with the military way of life. What can we do to 
reconnect those things? Also as part of that, to build a shared 
national sense of identity, which I think is an important part 
of this.
    Dr. Heck. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I will take 
it two different pathways. First is how the Department of 
Defense actually goes about recruiting, and although they are 
making inroads and putting more resources into northeastern and 
midwestern urban areas, which are historically areas that are 
difficult to recruit from, that is the first step. The other 
piece that we think is critically important is the expansion of 
a program called Hometown Recruiting. If you want to get 
somebody from a specific high school, a specific town to sign 
up, the best way to do that is to send a graduate of that high 
school to go talk to that class. Right now, Hometown Recruiting 
is done via permissive TDY [temporary duty assignment]. So you 
are home on vacation or on leave, you can do it. You get no 
benefit from doing it. It is just doing it out of service. We 
believe that should be funded, that you should send that person 
home on a true TDY tour, and pay them their travel and their 
per diem while they are home on leave, to be able to do that.
    The other piece goes to the bigger issue that we face with 
the civ-mil [civil-military] divide writ large. While you have 
an excellent situation in Missouri, as you mentioned, it is not 
the same way. Part of it is, post-9/11 we closed down our bases 
from a security standpoint, which makes it harder for the 
general population to get on base and interact with members in 
the military. Also from a security perspective, the military 
has become more insular. So we are shopping on base, we go to 
church on base, we golf on base. We are not getting out into 
the community as much as we should, just in normal, everyday 
life, and that also contributes to the growing disconnect.
    We need to address those issues that tend to continue to 
grow the civ-mil divide, and we need to target our recruiting 
resources in a much more focused way on how we can recruit, 
attract, and retain those individuals.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that. Ms. Wada, do 
you want to add anything to that?
    Ms. Wada. No. I would also say that we need to ensure that 
when we are recruiting we are using the latest advertising 
platforms, right. One of the recommendations we made was to 
give them a multiyear recruiting budget, so that when they do 
buy their spend at the beginning of the year they are able to 
more effectively buy ads, particularly when we talk about 
social media platforms, and how you best engage with the 
younger generation, the Gen Zs, actually, at this point, that 
we are looking for.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah. Very good. Thank you. Let me ask you, 
Ms. Wada, I will start with you on this. General Milley 
recently said that--he has said this a lot, actually--that the 
character of warfare is changing, and he spoke in particular 
about the role of the advanced technologies on the battlefield, 
that is speeding and changing the pace of warfare, and is 
changing the way that we fight, all across the board, in every 
sense. How should the Selective Service System, in your view, 
change to reflect these changes in the way that our military, 
and other militaries across the world, are now fighting?
    Ms. Wada. So the Commission did not make any 
recommendations on how we change who we register except for the 
expansion of women. The individual requirements that the 
Department or the services will need in the future will be 
determined at that point in time, when we are facing that 
existential threat.
    So what we said was to ensure that we have the most 
qualified individual in this country able to be chosen for or 
participate in a draft that we expand Selective Service to 
women, and that way we would have the best-qualified 
individuals available to be potentially available for a draft.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Dr. Heck, do you have anything 
to add on that point?
    Let me ask you this. I have got just a few seconds 
remaining. For any of you, the Commission's report mentions, 
and you just mentioned this, Dr. Heck, a moment ago, to the 
chairman, that unless there is a family member or a close 
friend who has served, most Americans simply are not aware of 
the various service opportunities. I am sure they are aware of 
the United States military but they are not aware of what that 
would actually mean, tangibly. How did we get to this point, do 
you think? I mean, how have we reached this point, and what are 
the most common reactions you received or heard about when 
talking to young people about the U.S. military?
    Ms. Wada, go ahead.
    Ms. Wada. I like to tell the story about the young kids 
that we met with here in Washington that came from Wisconsin. I 
asked them, ``How many of you were interested in serving in the 
military?'' and maybe in the group of ten, three hands went up. 
So I asked them, ``Why did you choose not to join the military, 
or not consider joining the military?'' The first response, 
from the majority of kids in the room was, ``My parents would 
kill me, because they expect me to go to college.''
    Then I said, ``Well, how are you going to pay for college? 
Is your college paid for?'' Ninety percent of the room, ``No, 
it is not paid for. I don't know how I will go to college.'' I 
said, ``Well, do you know that the military provides college 
opportunities? You can go through ROTC if you went to a 
college. You can get a ROTC scholarship. You can go and serve 
for 4 years as an enlisted, get college paid for.'' They had no 
idea.
    But what struck me was one young gentleman said, ``I really 
wanted to join the military but I wanted to go into finance,'' 
and I said, ``Do you know that there are finance opportunities 
in the military?'' I said, ``My brother was a finance officer 
in the United States Marine Corps.'' This look of shock that 
that is even a possibility had never occurred to most of the 
people in that room.
    What we found when we went across the country is that is 
actually the norm. That is not an anomaly. So we need to do a 
better job in educating and providing opportunities for young 
Americans when they are at that point in time, and we have been 
told that is at middle school, to be able to have those 
conversations of if you want to be X, this is all the pathways 
to get there. That is why we recommend a one-stop shop through 
a website that would allow people to do that.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Now we recognize 
Senator Duckworth via Webex.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also want to 
thank the Commission for their work and their recommendations 
today. In particular, I want to highlight one quote from the 
report that stands out to me, because it describes why national 
service is a fundamentally American idea. I quote, ``Americans 
who repeatedly step up in support of each other, offering their 
sweat and ingenuity when needed, without being asked and 
without expectation of anything in return,'' end quote. I think 
that speaks volumes as to the ways military families serve 
alongside their servicemembers, and often go above and beyond 
what military families are asked to do. Yet spouses and other 
family members face hurdles to education, unemployment, and can 
find themselves isolated from their extended family and support 
network.
    Dr. Heck, I understand that for your work with the 
Commission you engaged with military families to get a better 
perspective on how they view or participate in service to their 
communities. Can you speak to the potential impact of a program 
that would provide service opportunities specifically to 
military family members, giving them the opportunity to serve 
in their communities and gain skills and accreditations, or 
even for progress towards educational opportunities or even 
some grant funding, sort of an AmeriCorps kind of an idea but 
for military families?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you for the question, Senator Duckworth. 
Certainly the Commission looks at elevating all forms of 
service with an eye towards growing national service 
opportunities across the board. So if there was to be a segment 
of that growth targeted towards military families that would 
still achieve the goal that the Commission has of having one 
million people in national service annually by 2031.
    Certainly for the points that you mentioned, military 
families sacrifice and serve just as much, sometimes if not 
more, than the individual wearing the uniform. They suffer when 
they move, constant PCS [permanent change of station] moves, 
base to base, inability to maintain employment, get a good 
education. So providing them national service opportunities 
also goes to the ability for them to serve in their local 
community or on their post, camp, or station, to care for their 
brothers and sisters in arms.
    That was something that we heard as we traveled around the 
country and spoke to individuals about service. There are a lot 
of people who want to serve, but they may not want to, Peace 
Corps outside the country. They may not want to do AmeriCorps 
in an underserved community in a different state. They want to 
serve where they live, and take care of their neighbors, and 
this is a great example of how we could grow service, open up 
opportunities, and allow people to serve where they live.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Mr. Wada, from your 
perspective, with the Commission and your previous experience 
working in DOD, what are some potential barriers to 
implementing a service corps designed for military families, 
and are there any other ways you can think of for the 
Department to make service opportunities accessible to military 
spouses and families?
    Ms. Wada. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I think 
that providing opportunities and to family members and spouses 
that would develop the skills necessary for them to be able to 
transition from base to base is important, and leveraging 
national service to be able to do would be of benefit. I think 
the Department would have to do an analysis, though, on how 
best to engage in such a program, to ensure that they are 
meeting not just the potential requirements that may be 
highlighted or identified by the Department and the services, 
but also in the local communities in which they serve, so that 
there is a balance.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Mr. Khazei, there are a 
number of programs throughout DOD that support employment, but 
the momentum and motivation to take advantage of these programs 
can really vary from installation to installation. Obviously, 
the installation commander can make it easy or difficult. Do 
you see the establishment of a military family service corps as 
something that can help support these effort in alignment with 
the overall national public service program's intent?
    Mr. Khazei. Senator Duckworth, yes, I think your proposal 
is a brilliant idea, and there is precedent. FEMACorps, which 
is a partnership between AmeriCorps and FEMA [Federal Emergency 
Management Agency], leveraging FEMA resources and the 
AmeriCorps experience in developing a service program, has been 
extremely successful in a number of areas. I think that, 
military spouse unemployment, as you know, is 24 percent. When 
Blue Star Families did a study last year, they found that the 
number one concern of military spouses is employment 
opportunities. This kind of program, I think, could be 
developed as an AmeriCorps program for military families, and 
we found that AmeriCorps is a great transition to employment. 
People learn skills. People who volunteer are 27 percent more 
likely to be employed after, and in rural it is 55 percent. 
There is tons of work on installations, whether it is working 
military schools, supporting wounded warriors, supporting 
families transitioning, coming up with high-quality other 
activities.
    So it could be a standalone program. It could be developed 
in partnership between the Corporation for National Service and 
the Defense Department. I think there would be tremendous 
interest. As you know, there is a strong spirit of volunteerism 
across our military families and on installations.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you so much. This has been such an 
interesting hearing, and I appreciate each and every one of you 
for participating. Mr. Chairman, thank you for having a hearing 
on this topic. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to 
thank all of you for being here today. You know, as a former 
educator and coach, I believe in what we talked about a little 
bit earlier, about civic education. It is amazing, me traveling 
across the country to our schools, and doing a lot of what you 
are talking about, recruiting, that is all I did. They call you 
coaches but you are a recruiter, trying to get the best to come 
play for you, to keep your job. Sometimes works; sometimes it 
didn't. But it is amazing to me, around a lot of these kids 
that are immigrants who know more about our country than our 
natural-born citizens. I know in Alabama the last few years we 
now teach, required teaching civics in the school. Auburn 
University, where I coached for a long time and where I live 
now, to get into Auburn you have to have had civics in school. 
We are not teaching our basic fundamentals.
    That being said, it is hard. Recruiting is hard. Getting 
kids nowadays, in this environment of technology, finding kids 
that want to work, to be honest with you. I would recruit 25 
kids a year--25. I would give them $100,000 to $150,000 
scholarship. Maybe 50 percent of them made it for 4 years. They 
could not handle the strain, the hard work, the dedication, the 
teamwork, the responsibilities. It is amazing in this country 
how many of these kids have never seen the sun come up. They do 
not understand it unless they have been out all night. You 
know, my guys got up at 5 every morning, and we went to work.
    So we have got our hands full. If we want to do something 
like this to where we obviously--we want a volunteer army. We 
want volunteer people to fight for this country. But also, we 
are in a situation now where we are going to have to have 
people trained.
    I was glad to hear you say about education. Selling people 
on coming here, you can get an education. You can get an 
education doing this. So I think a big thing we have got to do 
is obviously marketing. Marketing is a huge part of it. You see 
a lot. I have been on all these campuses and high schools and 
you see all these recruiters and people selling those things. I 
think it is going to have to be even more. But we are in a 
tough world now. We are recruiting people that are hard-nosed. 
We are not as tough as we used to be. People used to have to 
fight to eat. Now my kids are the same way, 25 and 26 years 
old. They are kids that they do not really understand, getting 
their hands dirty sometimes, and getting knocked down, and 
getting back up.
    So that being said, with all the things that you have to 
have, requirements, Dr. Heck, about getting a kid into school, 
or getting them into military, you have got to have an IQ above 
85, cannot have a criminal record. We have got so many kids now 
that are obese. How many kids do you think from 18 to 24, 
through your studies, 18 to 24, do you think, in this country 
can make it in the military?
    Dr. Heck. Senator Tuberville, it is a great question, and I 
will just run real quickly through the numbers for perspective. 
Every year there are about 32 million 17- to 24-year-olds in 
the Nation, the prime recruiting target. If you take out those 
that are unqualified due to physical, medical, behavioral, or 
legal problems, you are down to 9 million. If you look at those 
that 9 million who are considered highly academically 
qualified, which is the equivalent of being an A-B student or a 
score of 50 on the Armed Forces Qualification Test, you are 
down to 4.5 million. From that group, if you look at those who 
meet those first two criteria and are interested or propensed 
in serving in the military, you are down to 450,000. So from a 
population of 32 million we are going after a recruit pool of 
450,000, which every D1 school is also going after, which makes 
it very difficult.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Have you got any comments on 
that?
    Ms. Wada. The marketing and recruiting is a very 
challenging program for all the services, especially in this 
environment. Where, historically, I think, there was a belief 
that as the economy gets worse, recruiting will get better I do 
not think the services are necessarily seeing that correlation 
at this point because understanding that most of divide has 
grown. So young adults today do not understand military service 
and the opportunities that it provides, and are not exposed to 
it because of the military being much more closed because of 
security reasons. So there are a number of different factors, I 
think, going on today that have an adverse impact on a 
service's ability to actually continue to recruit from across 
the country. They continue to do it well in certain areas of 
the country.
    Senator Tuberville. I think the military is a great point 
in terms of continuing education. Fifty percent of the kids 
that go to 4-year schools nowadays do not need to go. They need 
to go to the military or they need to go to 2-year schools to 
get educated to continue a life and raise a family like they 
want to. I mean, bottom line. Continuing education means that a 
majority--I am not going to say a majority--a huge part of our 
country, when I took them into school, when I brought them to a 
4-year school, could not read over the sixth-grade reading 
level. That is where we are at in our education this country. 
That is the reason we need military. That is the reason we need 
more education in the military, to continue to advance these 
kids, and I appreciate the work that you all have done. Thank 
you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses here today, and thank you for the work that you 
have done on this report.
    I want to focus a little bit on the civics education piece 
that you address here, and how important that is and how we 
have to strengthen it. We know a lot of school districts are 
dropping civics education as well and folks are not getting 
exposed to that. We all know that a strong democracy requires 
an informed, educated electorate who understand how government 
works, what the opportunities are, what the limitations are, 
and how the active involvement of a citizen requires more than 
just voting. Voting is incredibly important, but it involves a 
whole lot more than that.
    My sense is, with civics classes, that it does not connect 
in ways that we would like that to connect to the high school, 
and if it is a required course it is a required course that 
they have to punch a ticket and get out of there as quickly as 
they can.
    So in your research, as you have looked at all of this, are 
there some programs that really jumped out as very effective to 
do it, more hands-on, especially with the fact that today's 
students need more of that kind of interaction. They are not 
going to just sit through a lecture. They want to be engaged. 
Also where they may have more exposure to actual elected 
officials, for example, at all levels, and understand that it 
involves city council races as well, and what happens on their 
neighborhood street. It is not just what happens in Congress.
    Are there some examples of what you, as you looked, is 
there an example that really stood out, or two examples?
    Dr. Heck. Sure, and thank you, Senator, for the question, 
and we could not agree more. As we said in the beginning, civic 
education was not one of our charges to evaluate, but it was 
brought to us by the general population with whom we spoke as 
we traveled the Nation. You are right, the Federal Government 
spends $54 per student on STEM and 5 cents per student on civic 
education. We believe that civic education is the foundation 
upon which a lifetime of service will be built.
    So to answer your question, I will give you a specific 
example. The Sandra Day O'Connor Act, which was adopted in 
Florida, is an incredible example, because you are exactly 
right. We do not want sitting through one semester of U.S. 
Government to count as civic education. It needs to be woven 
through every course, whether it is math, science, history, or 
English, so that students are constantly being exposed to 
lessons in civic education, of what it means to be an American. 
So that is one example that I was most enamored by.
    Senator Peters. Well, I want to pick up on that point, 
because I think it is critically important that it cross across 
all those areas. But I think it is also important that it 
starts really early in life. If you are talking to someone in 
high school, you are getting a late start in getting that, 
because it has to be part of their culture.
    From my own personal experience, I am a proud Eagle Scout, 
and proud through the scouting program. I started very early in 
life, that instilled those values and understand how you put 
country above self and the greater good. To what extent did you 
look at some of those programs that start in elementary school 
or early middle school?
    Dr. Heck. Yes, sir. We proposed that the civic education, 
the classroom piece of it, begins in kindergarten, but we also 
heavily support the reinvigoration of service learning, where 
they are now going to take the theory that they have learned in 
the classroom and actually apply it. We talk about the 
opportunities, perhaps do a specific, finite, concrete service 
project as a middle school student, looking at doing a semester 
of service while you are in high school, or a summer of 
service. Doing a service project between your high school and 
college years.
    We could not agree more that the place to start exposing 
our youth to civic education, service learning, and a lifetime 
of service occurs at the earliest of ages, because once you 
provide them with a meaningful service opportunity that shows 
that they are much more likely to continue serving throughout 
their lifetime.
    In fact, just as a quick point, one of our first public 
engagements was in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, where we met with 
a SeniorCorps group. I asked, ``What was it that you did in 
your prior life that now you are a retiree but you still want 
to give back, and you are mentoring at-risk youth, or you are 
sitting with homebound seniors?'' Almost universally, the 
females were teachers or nurses, the males were police officers 
or prior service, military service, showing that once you get 
hooked--again, being a physician, I believe everybody has a 
service gene. Our goal is to unlock it, and activate that gene 
so that people want to participate throughout their lifetimes.
    Senator Peters. Great. Well, thank you for that, and I 
appreciate that answer. We definitely have to focus on getting 
to folks very young and making it just part of who they are as 
a person. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Now let me 
recognize Senator Rosen via Webex.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I am going to 
thank the commissioners who are here with us this morning. I 
especially want to thank Congressman Doctor Joe Heck, who had 
the seat before me in Nevada's Third District. His son, Joey, 
and my daughter went to school together in Henderson, in junior 
high and high school, and I am just glad to see you here. I am 
really proud of the work that you are doing.
    To all the witnesses, I really commend your creative 
thinking in finding ways to incentivize all Americans. When we 
think about the military, national, and public service in the 
21st century, we really have to reimagine what civic engagement 
looks like. We have to shape serving your country. Like you 
said, there are so many ways to serve, and I would argue that 
the person giving the service gets as much, if not more than 
the people they are serving, because they are really doing 
something positive. We have to really be inclusive and aligned 
with the information economy.
    So many Americans, they really do want to serve but they 
face obstacles. Some are older. Some have disabilities. But 
some of those folks are the next generation of coders, 
cybersecurity experts, but they may not be able to carry that 
80-pound pack on their backs. So we have to find ways to 
increase opportunities for individuals with diverse abilities 
so that they can participate and we can benefit from them being 
in national service. When we open the door to people of all 
backgrounds, of many ages, we make the most of the amazing 
skills that Americans bring to the table in service to our 
country, we strengthen our democracy, we strengthen our 
national security.
    So, Mr. Khazei, can you talk to me about how the Federal 
Government, we can expand their service opportunities for 
Americans from underserved communities, nontraditional 
backgrounds, particularly older or those folks with 
disabilities, through existing national service programs or 
possibly creating some new ones.
    Mr. Khazei. Thank you, Senator Rosen. The terrific thing 
about AmeriCorps is that it is open to people of all ages, and 
it has great programs from AmeriCorps state and national, the 
National Civilian Community Corps to the AmeriCorps SeniorCorps 
program. People can serve at all ages, as my colleague, 
Chairman Heck, said.
    We have proposed a comprehensive system that starts, as he 
just said, with civics in school starting in kindergarten, with 
opportunities for service learning in middle school, summer of 
service, and a semester of service in high school, as a way to 
cultivate that energy and that ethic so that when people turn 
18 they can seriously consider, should I spend a year in 
service, whether it is in AmeriCorps, Peace Corp, or the 
military, or joining public service.
    One of the things we proposed to expand opportunities is a 
new service fellowship program. An inspiration for this came 
from a couple of things, one being in Vinton, Iowa, a small, 
rural community of just 5,000 people, where we were hosted by 
Adam Lounsbury, the head of the state commission in Iowa who is 
doing a great job. People said, ``We love AmeriCorps but we do 
not have the capacity to do the grants. We do not have the 
matching funds, the philanthropy here. We have been able to get 
a few VISTAs [Volunteers in Service to America].'' So we said, 
why not have the fellowship program where the fellows would be 
fully stipended and their Segal award would be paid for, it 
will be run through State service commissions where they would 
certify local nonprofits and people could serve, as my 
colleague said, right in their own backyard. That is one thing 
we could do.
    We also proposed that the stipend and the Segal awards be 
raised so that everybody could afford to do it. We have 
proposed that there be wraparound services for people that need 
it, and supports for people who have disabilities.
    So our report encompasses the full range. We believe that 
every single person is an asset and can give back to our 
country, and we just have to give them the opportunity and the 
support to do so.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I want to pose this to Dr. 
Heck. You know, the U.S. is expected to face a shortfall of 
over three million skilled tech workers by next year. How can 
we leverage junior ROTC and ROTC programs to incentivize and 
train them? I have a junior ROTC program that was included in 
the NDAA last year, to promote a cyber track for our junior 
ROTC. But what can we do to help our schools, our school 
districts, our teachers to really promote junior ROTC and other 
ROTC programs?
    Dr. Heck. Thank you for the question, Senator. Good to see 
you again.
    We believe that expansion of JROTC [Junior Reserve 
Officers' Training Corps] is the key. In our recommendations, 
we call for an almost doubling of the available programs to 
6,000 by year 2031, in order to provide more opportunities to 
high school students to engage in that citizenship program. 
Also, in last year's NDAA there was a provision to include in 
existing programs and the curriculum an introduction to options 
in military, national, and public service. So there is one area 
where we can talk about the needs for specific critical skill 
sets moving forward, perhaps igniting a spark in a young 
student's mind about the type of career or vocation they may 
want to pursue upon graduation.
    Certainly in senior ROTC, at the college level, there are 
opportunities for the cadets to engage in meaningful 
experiences that expose them to a wide variety of military 
occupational specialties, and so emphasis can be placed on 
those that are in critical need, at any given time, through 
that curriculum. Again, the key is to be able to increase 
opportunities by increasing awareness and by motivating more 
people to want to serve.
    Senator Rosen. Well, I thank you all for being here, for 
your thoughtful work, and your terrific suggestions. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen, and Dr. Heck and 
Ms. Wada and Mr. Khazei, thank you for a very, very informative 
hearing that has engaged all of us, and that follows on what I 
think is an extraordinarily helpful report. The Commission has 
rendered a great national service, and I want to commend you, 
and I wish you would get that commendation to your colleagues 
too.
    In fact, you have given us a roadmap, really, as we 
consider these issues in the next NDAA, and after careful 
consideration and debate, as we will want to do, we hope we can 
use that roadmap to get to the place you have pointed to.
    Dr. Heck and colleagues, thank you very, very much, and at 
this point I will adjourn the hearing. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:21 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]
      
    
    
    final recommendations and report of the national commission on 
                 military, national, and public service
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe and Members of the Armed 
Services Committee,
    Service Year Alliance is pleased to submit this testimony for the 
record for the hearing on the National Commission on Military, 
National, and Public Service.
    Service Year Alliance is an organization working to make a year of 
paid, full-time national service--a service year--a common expectation 
and opportunity for all young Americans. We do that through our Serve 
America Together campaign, which brings together a coalition of 
military and civilian service organizations, among others, to advocate 
to make civilian national service part of growing up in America. We 
also support service year programs and help stand up new innovative 
models, and maintain the only online portal--ServiceYear.org--that 
connects young people to all different types of available service year 
opportunities, including AmeriCorps, Peace Corps, YouthBuild and non-
federally funded programs.
    We were thrilled by the establishment of the National Commission on 
Military, National and Public Service and grateful to see the bold 
vision it outlined in its final ``Inspired to Serve'' report. We 
strongly support the Commission's vision of a lifetime of continued 
service and specifically of one million young people serving in 
civilian service year opportunities.
    Our Nation is in the grips of a pandemic that is affecting every 
aspect of our lives. Our public health system is struggling to cope 
with COVID-19. Education has been disrupted and children face continued 
learning loss. Millions of Americans do not know where they will find 
their next meal, and communities across the country are dealing with 
the impacts of climate change in the form of fires, hurricanes, and 
coastal degradation.
    At the same time, a generation of young people are increasingly 
disconnected from education and employment. Millions graduated from 
college and found no job prospects. Others who might have gone on to 
higher learning have either chosen not to or been unable to for a 
variety of reasons. The impact on educational opportunities has been 
most felt by economically disadvantaged youth and youth of color.
    Finally, the last few years have shown us how polarized our country 
has become.
    National service is uniquely suited to address all of these 
challenges. National service corps members serving with programs like 
AmeriCorps, YouthBuild, and the conservation corps are already 
mentoring and tutoring students, supporting vaccine distribution 
efforts, protecting our public lands, and serving at food banks across 
the country. Through their service, these young people are developing 
leadership and professional skills that put them on a pathway to higher 
education and careers while becoming an engaged and culturally 
competent generation of leaders who are more empathetic and better 
understand people who are different than themselves.
    Their service also has a proven return on investment (ROI), which 
is as high as $11 for every Federal dollar spent. That ROI can grow 
even larger when communities come together to coordinate efforts, as 
can be seen in Flint, Michigan, where a service accelerator has created 
a return of investment of $35.90 for every Federal dollar spent.
    During the last year, Congress has taken up national service as a 
cost-effective, bipartisan solution to help address the challenges 
facing our Nation with bills like the CORPS Act and the Commission's 
Inspire to Serve Act. The American Rescue Plan legislation that just 
passed Congress includes an additional $1 billion to help expand 
current national service efforts--a critical downpayment on the kind of 
growth we and the Commission envision for national service.
    To truly achieve the Commission's vision of national service we 
believe it must:

     1.  Exist at scale, engaging at least one million young Americans 
in civilian national service annually

     2.  Address America's unmet needs

     3.  Bridge divides and fuel civic renewal

     4.  Be an opportunity for all

     5.  Build pathways to long-term success for individuals who serve 
through benefits and connectivity to future education and careers

    We were pleased to see the Commission address many of these 
fundamentals.
    Our top recommendations to the Biden Administration and to Congress 
very much align with the Commission's recommendations. This starts with 
the crucial premise at the heart of the Commission's work that 
military, national, and public service are inherently connected in 
creating a civic-minded America.
    Our recommendations include:
     1.  Lead a Whole-of-Government effort to put Americans into 
national service to meet our country's urgent needs:

        We encourage the Administration to appoint a Service Czar to 
lead a task force of federal agencies to assess how they can integrate 
national service into their plans to address America's urgent unmet 
needs and build interagency corps in partnership with the AmeriCorps 
Agency (formerly known as the Corporation for National and Community 
Service) and ensure that synergies are created between military, 
national, and public service.
        This could be effectively done, as the Commission recommended, 
by establishing a Council on Military, National, and Public Service 
within the Executive Office of the President. That office could 
coordinate between different agencies on recruitment, awareness 
campaigns, and transitions between different types of service. The 
Council could then oversee the implementation of these interagency 
corps.
        We encourage this committee to consider establishing this 
Council through this year's defense authorization bill.

     2.  Flood the nonprofit sector with critical support through a 
service year fellowship:
        We support the Commission's idea of establishing a fellowship 
program through AmeriCorps that allows flexibility for smaller 
nonprofits to nimbly fill gaps, manage volunteer labor, and shore up 
staff. Service year fellowships would allow access to corps members to 
smaller organizations--including faith-based organizations and 
organizations in rural or underserved areas--who would not otherwise 
have the organizational and grant-making infrastructure to compete and 
receive this support through existing AmeriCorps funding. Independent 
Sector has found that nonprofit organizations have lost over a million 
positions because of COVID-19 and 7 percent will permanently close. 
These fellowship positions can provide a surge of human capital to 
nonprofits while creating a pathway to jobs in the nonprofit sector 
when the economy recovers.

     3.  Expand national service opportunities and stabilize and 
strengthen AmeriCorps:
        As a first step, we support the Commission's recommendation 
that the Serve America Act authorization of 250,000 AmeriCorps 
positions be fully funded. Ultimately, like the Commission, we would 
like to see these positions expanded to 1 million a year. In this 
difficult financial environment, we also want to ensure programs can 
sustain and grow by addressing challenges with matching funds. 
AmeriCorps has waived the match requirement for fiscal year 2021 to 
allow nonprofits to use their federal funds even if they are not able 
to fully match them. We need, however, to also look for other 
opportunities to match these funds.

     4.  Raise awareness and enable matching of young americans through 
state-of-the-art technology:
        Historically, the national service field has greatly depended 
on word-of-mouth as a core recruitment strategy to bring the next 
generation into service. For this reason, the majority of Americans 
still aren't aware of the opportunities that national service can 
provide for themselves, their children, or their family and friends. We 
support the Commission's recommendation of an awareness campaign that 
directs individuals to the diversity of positions across the country to 
serve. It will help to connect the many young people in our country 
whose paths have been disrupted by the pandemic, with opportunities to 
give back and gain skills. In particular, it will be critical to ensure 
this campaign utilizes both traditional channels as well as digital 
channels to reach the target audiences and deliver them directly to 
opportunities to serve.
        The Commission called for a central platform for all service 
types in their report, as a means of making it easier for all young 
Americans to serve regardless of whether it is through military or 
civilian service. Service Year Alliance, through the generous support 
of philanthropy, has already made significant investments in technology 
and best practices over the past 6 years to meet this need with the 
development and launch of ServiceYear.org. This platform is a state-of-
the-art online marketplace that houses service year opportunities--
including AmeriCorps, Peace Corps, and other non-federally funded 
positions--and makes it easy for users to browse positions, get matched 
with opportunities based on their interests, and apply to serve. 
Leveraging the technology and learnings from this experience would 
enable the administration to quickly roll out a cost-effective solution 
to support this national awareness campaign and match young Americans 
with the right service opportunity for them.

     5.  Make national service positions accessible to all young 
Americans:
        We strongly support the Commission's recommendations on 
increasing the living allowance and wraparound services as fundamental 
to making national service something that is truly accessible to all 
young people.
        Currently, AmeriCorps members receive stipends that are tied to 
the poverty level. These stipends make the choice of national service 
virtually impossible for young people coming from lower-income families 
who will have no choice but to choose employment opportunities over the 
possibility of building long-term skills through national service. Even 
those who can choose to serve oftentimes depend on food stamps. A 175 
percent increase from the current AmeriCorps VISTA living allowance, 
with adjustments for regional cost of living, would allow all young 
Americans to choose this pathway to empowerment and potential careers. 
The tax on stipends, which creates an additional barrier to 
participation in national service by significantly limiting the amount 
of money corps members take home, should be eliminated.
        Further, as the Commission pointed out, wraparound services 
like housing and childcare would make it possible for more young people 
to make a choice to serve. As would raising the Segal Education Award 
to make it a worthwhile investment, making it more flexible, and 
eliminating the tax on it to match other education awards provided by 
the Federal Government.
        We also agree with the Commission's recommendation to ``direct 
the CEO of CNCS to work with the American Association State Colleges 
and Universities and the National Governors Association to encourage 
members to offer in-state tuition rates to all national service 
alumni.'' The Agency's Schools for Service is one effort to accomplish 
this. We would also like to see, as the Commission recommended, that 
``all State Governors and State legislatures require public 
institutions of higher education to offer all national service alumni 
and Returned Peace Corps Volunteers (RPCVs) application fee waivers 
and/or course credit incentives in recognition of service experience.''

     6.  Set young people up for success:
        The United States is going through a transition in its economy 
to high-skilled jobs just as many low-skilled jobs have been wiped out 
by the pandemic. One way to address this challenge is by using national 
service positions as a tool to create pathways to employment and to the 
middle class. National service positions cannot under law compete with 
existing jobs, nor should they impede new job creation. Rather, there 
should be a focus on integrating skills training, certifications, and 
credentialing into programs and working with institutions of higher 
learning, workforce development organizations, unions, and employers to 
help national service positions create pipelines to 21st century jobs.
        These paths should include developing programs or trainings 
that allow national service programs to be designated as ``civic 
apprenticeships'' that help young people move into the nonprofit sector 
as well as integrating trainings and credentialing into other high-need 
sectors. Further, AmeriCorps should also work with colleges and 
universities to accredit programs that can provide college credits or 
skills training that help young people transition from national service 
programs to higher education.
        Finally, as the Commission recommends, the new Administration 
should allow service year corps members to receive the same 
preferential hiring and non-competitive eligibility for Federal jobs as 
returned Peace Corps volunteers and AmeriCorps VISTA members. The 
Federal Government provides a non-competitive hiring authority for 
individuals who complete the Peace Corps and AmeriCorps VISTA. By 
extending this authority to everyone who completes a year of national 
service, the Federal Government would not only incentivize national 
service but provide a pathway into government for highly motivated, 
civically minded young Americans.
        Not all of these recommendations fall under the jurisdiction of 
this Committee. However, because of the important linkages that the 
Commission identified between military, national, and public service, 
there are some key things that the committee could do. In particular, 
the Committee should authorize the creation of the White House Office 
on Military, National, and Public Service. We encourage you to also 
look at ways to integrate recruitment among different service 
opportunities. Each military service has a recruiting command, while 
AmeriCorps has almost no recruitment capacity--even though 71 percent 
of young people are not qualified to serve in the military. Better 
integrating these efforts would capture the enthusiasm for service 
among young people and help them find the right path forward to serve 
their country.
        Finally, servicemembers and their families have already 
demonstrated a propensity to serve our country. There are many options 
for providing them with other service opportunities. Specifically, we 
encourage you to use the bill to establish a military family 
interagency service corps between the Department of Defense and 
AmeriCorps. Military families already have a high propensity for 
service--in fact, they already do serve alongside their servicemembers. 
They also move frequently, meaning that they are often far from their 
extended families. Further, the frequent moves make it hard for 
military spouses to work. A military family service corps would allow 
spouses and adult dependents to serve in their communities, build 
networks and relationships, while putting them on a pathway to careers. 
If implemented correctly, this career pathway would include the kinds 
of credentials and skills necessary for portable careers.
        We also encourage you to allow servicemembers to participate in 
civilian national service programs as part of the on-the-job training 
that they may participate in in their last 180 days on Active Duty in 
the DOD SkillBridge program.
        As the commission so clearly demonstrated, national service has 
the power to bring Americans together in common purpose--whether that 
is on a forward operating base overseas or in a health center or food 
bank in their community. Imagine what our Nation could be if every 
young person had such an opportunity.

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